#lineup-help

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visual quiver
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I already tried that. doesn't work. tried every comp that was posted for 24-24

woven lichen
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@rotund copper try Rosa and estrilda instead of Belinda and lyca to see if shemira can ult faster

main dragon
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@woven lichen Thanks

brittle summit
pale kettle
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Any good Kane teams?

woven lichen
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@brittle summit hmmm that is bizarre... not sure why Rosa would follow shemira

visual quiver
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look at the leaderboards. everyone uses the same team. belinda, shem frontline, rowan rosa twins backline @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Kk

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Oof don't got twins.

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Best pvp team?

brittle summit
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@visual quiver I tried that setup out before. Best I got was about 115mil. If Belinda was being followed by Rosaline first then the overall total damage could very well be even higher.

mild trail
woven lichen
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@mild trail not a lot of tanks for some reason but can try saveas/shemira Rosa Brutus golus and Nemora/Arden

uneven pewter
mild trail
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@woven lichen shouldn’t i care building teams of one fraction or at some point it doesnt matter and it better idea to use specific heroes( like rosa etc)

inland kite
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I swear it's good luck to post when you're stuck... switched Satrana with vurk

woven lichen
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@mild trail I wouldn’t overemphasize all of one faction. If you can get 3 or more of a faction great but sometimes you just need specific heroes.

For my recommendation to you, I would try for three maulers with saveas Brutus and golus and then add two heroes... or you can do some other combination. Shemira and Rosa with two tanks and support works out well too...

You could do shemira Brutus lyca Nemora arden also

mild trail
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@woven lichen thx for tips ive been running the last lineup u told but with saveas instead of shemira, works better for now

inland kite
mild trail
inland kite
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Wait

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Eirons an ascended level so never use him, Arden can be used until like 23, lyca and rosaline are ascended

serene basin
inland kite
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You want enough copies to get them from legendary to legendary plus @mild trail

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The power level from epic to legendary is not a ground breaking enough difference

rotund copper
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@woven lichen that helped. Thanks

inland kite
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Even epic or epic plus gets the job done better

mild trail
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Why is it bad to have legendaries?

serene basin
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Can someone please help me with the contorted realm

floral minnow
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Hat comp would you suggest me to make? Curently using: saveas Brutus lyca wukong arden

golden finch
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I need a lineup to beating 7-40

timid spire
rain oriole
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@golden finch reset your Arden and level him up to 100, then level up Belinda to 112, then you can try
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Wukong
Estrilda

timid spire
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I need a better line up

rain oriole
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@timid spire you only need to level up 5 heroes so reset antandra and Wukong, then level up Wukong to 81 and level Belinda as far as you can, she will be your main carry, you can try a team like

Belinda
Lucius/Brutus
Nemora
Estrilda/Lucius
Fawkes

timid spire
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Ok thank u

floral minnow
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Think you should be using brutus and lucius very strong at early stages along with saveas carry

rain oriole
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@floral minnow the comp you are using is fine, I would just suggest switching out wukong with Fawkes/Nara/Lorsan for certain situations

floral minnow
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Could you tell me more about situations? And how does it work if i remove 1 tank and place dps/buffer?

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I am fairly new to the game so im looking for any advice i can take!

timid spire
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Should I reset safiya???

mild trail
rain oriole
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@floral minnow rn you are gonna need your tanks, but once you hit 141+ with Saveas you can start running him in tank position as he survives really well. You would use Nara in situations where you wanna disable a hero who will cc you, e.g Arden, Fawkes can be used in a similar way, to turn a fight into a 4v5 and is also really useful for removing things like sheilds. For that stage you want Brutus in front of Brutus so you don't leave Arden vunerable when monkey untls into clones, lyca can also be used up front sometimes to delay a little bit since at E+ you are only using her for her haste buff anyway, and in stages with a Silvina, you want to use a weaker mage to lure her jump so you can keep your other mage (Arden) alive

brittle summit
rain oriole
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@timid spire yh reset her, you only need to level 5 heroes and the rest can go in the resonating crystal

austere python
brittle summit
austere python
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And I already know I shouldn’t have gone to L without more fodder lol

timid spire
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Ok thank u

floral minnow
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@rain oriole thank you very much for useful info! Will try to beat this brutus with some changes! Hopefully it works! Thank you very much!

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Beaten just by replwcing lyca so silvinia can jump to other mage but arden! Very much appreciated! @rain oriole

night lintel
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Hello, what do you feel is the optimal comp for me right now between these two ? I'm at chapter 18, trying to focus my fodder on something

rain oriole
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@austere python you need more support in there, Rowan would fit perfectly in your team, put him in the middle and Belinda/Rosaline either side, decent comp and you get the 5 fac bonus, you could also use more support/cc like Nara/Arden in some of your stages in place of Rosaline

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@night lintel both are good comps and you can mix them together depending on the situation, if you mean what to focus fac scrolls on, can you post a pic of your hero boxes

night lintel
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@rain oriole Thank you. What do you mean by hero boxes ? I meant who should I put in L between Rowan/Rosa or the two wilders. By the way, I also have a Lv. 180 Brutus; I suppose he doesn't fit in here?

rain oriole
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He can be useful when your Lucius cant tank the damage, he can be put in front for his invincibility shield, and I mean post a screenshot of your lightbear and wilder heroes

shell hamlet
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Anyone got 22-26 saved?

night lintel
shell hamlet
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Ty unit

rain oriole
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@night lintel I wouldn't rush into any Ascensions right now, but for Wilders your fodder should be focused on Nemora for now until you get her Ascended, you don't really want to make more Legendaries since your focus is now getting 5 Mythics to break the 160 cap, the most reliable way is to only Ascended shop heroes or heroes you already have 8 copies of

shell hamlet
rain oriole
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@shell hamlet use that first ss I posted, and try blade on Shem, chalice on Luci, grace on Nemora, eye on Arden and anything on lyca

night lintel
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@rain oriole Thanks a lot! However, wdym by "Ascended shop heroes" ? Regular shops ?

rain oriole
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Heroes from lab shop (Shemira,Nemora etc) and some in the challenger shop

night lintel
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Aaaaaaah, gotcha. ty! have a good evening

rain oriole
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Np :)

naive kite
pale kettle
rain oriole
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@naive kite I would take out Nemora for Rowan, and do you have quick battle feature unlocked?

naive kite
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Oh yea I use rowan as well sometimes, just been trying to find a good team, don't know what quick battle is. Only at ch 11

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Is rosaline worth using with saveus?

twilit mason
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I'm stuck on chapter 8 any tips on what my team should be? Should i reset Shemira and use Saveas instead?

rain oriole
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Ah ok nvm then, and from what I remember I guess you could, you would pretty much just have him with haste the whole time

twilit mason
rain oriole
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@pale kettle
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Saveas
Fawkes/Arden

twilit mason
golden finch
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tomk

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im trying your formation rn but i still cant win @rain oriole

olive moth
pale kettle
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Like that?

rain oriole
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Swap the Belinda and Rowan and should be good

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@olive moth no harm in trying, personally never used her but it's only 20 diamonds for a reset, maybe that 4 man faction bonus will help

golden finch
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oof

olive moth
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who would i switch her for?

rain oriole
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Shemira

olive moth
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lk

golden finch
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tomk the formation you told me didn't work

olive moth
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kk*

rain oriole
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@golden finch did you do the resets, it could be that you just need to wait out some time and level up or just keep experimenting with different layouts

golden finch
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i did the reset i think i need to wait

teal glade
shy shale
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So I have Shemira since bootcamp rewards pushed me to 45k. So now I will make her my carry instead of the suggested Saveas earlier. But question. Should I manually level her or res crystal.

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I usually level her but was thinking maybe farming her is too slow to get 141+ on time.

floral minnow
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Anyone got vurk to borrow?

rain oriole
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You can use skreg too if you don't have vurk, otherwise try #mercenary

shy shale
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Anyone? ^^

rich steeple
floral minnow
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Dark j tryed going with shemira early and figured saveas is much better option

rain oriole
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@shy shale you will only be able to take her to lvl 100, Saveas will still be a better carry that early on because of how easy it is to build him, and you only ever level your 5 highest Ascended heroes

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@rich steeple you could try Belinda Shemira Twins Lorsan Athalia/Baden

shy shale
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That's what I was going to do with my Wilders. I was going to only level Lorsan, Eironn, Tasi, Seirus and Ulmus cause I actually got them all first in that order. Got the faction bonuses. And figured Wukong and Shemira can go in the res crystal

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And I can put Saveas in res too

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Or u think I should manually lv him

olive moth
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so i just managed to get saveas E+ should i be replacing shemira with saveas bow?

rain oriole
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For now just put him in crystal but once you get him E+ manually lvl him over one of your current 5

shy shale
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Ok

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Thanks

rain oriole
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@olive moth yh, and focus lvlling him to 120

olive moth
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kk

scenic swan
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nvm just got it 😂😂

olive moth
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@rain oriole i replaced shem with saveas and did pretty good but when stuck on a stage i swapped back to shem and passed the stage, confused on what to do now

scenic swan
wooden flicker
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Any recommendations? Thinking of replacing Wu with shemira

pale kettle
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ok so why does kane execute rosaline and why does she do so much damage

amber kestrel
fair shadow
pale kettle
fair shadow
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thane was a bit of an early game mistake, should i finish ascending him or just start building someone else?

woven lichen
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@fair shadow if you already have 5 ascended and are not close to level cap, I’d go for someone else. Otherwise doesn’t hurt to keep ascending

fair shadow
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yeah, i'm at 271/290 right now but i just ran out of hero xp so i think it'll be a pretty long time, i'll start on someone else

woven lichen
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@pale kettle shemira is probably too later for you... need to get her to mythic and overlevel. So I’d stick to Belinda. Might be rough getting her and Lucius to ascended but it works at endgame

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@amber kestrel what stage? But seems like no faction bonus or crowd control for Arden... tasi and Nemora would probably help especially if you can charm Arden

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@pale kettle Kane always executes the highest damage dealer... Rosa has a skill that always does a % of hp so it’s powerful without being depending on Rosa’s stat

twilit mason
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I'm stuck on chapter 8 any tips on what my team should be? Should i reset Shemira and use Saveas instead?

visual quiver
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@twilit mason upgrade your saveas to L with golus and ankhira so his level cap is 140. overlevel him instead of shemira. then use lucius/brutus + saveas frontline. tasi + lyca + arden/nemora backline. after that try to get another e+ saveas asap so you can upgrade your sav to L+. don't ever upgrade ascended tier heroes to L without copies for L+. then only buy shemira copies from lab until you can ascend her and get her to M 161 asap so you can swap her for saveas

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that exact team will be enough until chapter 22 with a few exceptions

woven lichen
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@wooden flicker use saveas and Mirael.. they are much stronger from L61-160

shy shale
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I think I want Lorsan to be my carry

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He is becoming my favorite

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May not be the smartest idea. Thoughts?

visual quiver
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no clue about the smallest but it's definitely not the smartest. mainly because a support can't be a carry

shy shale
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Lorsan isnt support. AoE, consistent dam

visual quiver
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oh, lorsan definitely is a support

twilit mason
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@visual quiver So replace Shemira for Saveas and then focus all resources on him?

shy shale
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Well nah it right. His abilities are supoort

visual quiver
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yes, exactly. 20-40 levels above the rest, whatever the max currently is

twilit mason
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How overleveled should Saveas be compared to the rest?

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The problem i have right now is the backline keeps dieing and Lucius is't survining long enough, ah okay 20 - 40 levels

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Thanks

visual quiver
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that's why most people use brutus early game. he definitely survives 4 seconds because of last grasp but he only gets really outstanding after hitting level 141 because it's then 7 seconds of invisibility

void dawn
amber kestrel
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@woven lichen 25-54

woven lichen
untold rivet
pearl bramble
amber kestrel
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@woven lichen tyvm

woven lichen
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@untold rivet twins rowan Rosa shemira Belinda

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@pearl bramble saveas Brutus Izold shemira Thoran.... or maybe saveas Rosa Brutus skreg estrilda.

raw turret
plucky sonnet
untold rivet
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@woven lichen I don't have the twins.

odd python
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probably something like shem rosa rowan twins athalia, use athalia to sacrifice before shem @plucky sonnet

untold rivet
woven lichen
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@untold rivet you can try Talene... if you can make her highest damage dealer.... she will revive and keep helping party while other damage dealers keep going on....

Otherwise, maybe shemira Belinda Wu kong Rowan Rosa (Wu kong and Rosa do % Hp attacks)

river hull
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What would people recommend for me

woven lichen
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@river hull shemira Rowan Rosa Lucius estrilda/Talene

polar current
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25 48,any ideas?

woven lichen
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@polar current
Fawkes
-Rowan
Belinda
-rosa
Lucius
(Rowan across from tasi is a safe spot... Fawkes should dodge athalia)

Alternative
Rosa
-fawkes
Belinda
-Rowan
Lucius
(Rosa always dodges and hopefully athalia goes to fawkes afterward)

polar current
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My fawkes rarely dodgesm almost always dead within 5 seconds even jf he does dodge

raw flicker
lost hound
plucky sonnet
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@odd python meaning force athalia to die at 15? Then after let Shem use her super?

odd python
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yeah pretty much

plucky sonnet
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Won’t she die at 45 then?

odd python
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most people seem to get belinda to die first if they arent using talene

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yeah you gotta rack up the damage fast lol

plucky sonnet
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Okay so most people just do 2 dps?

odd python
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the non talene users yeah, im assuming youre in the 280 bracket too

plucky sonnet
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And 3 support?

lost hound
plucky sonnet
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270 yeah. Okay I’ll try it thanks!!!

odd python
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rowan rosa twins are pretty much it

pine echo
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How do I maximize my damage?

sonic nebula
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Using Rowan/Lucius/estrilda/mirael/Rosaline. Recently got new characters, should I change my lineup/levels?

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Lucius is lvl capped I can’t get another copy 😭

woven lichen
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@polar current usually with dura’s grace and especially with faction gear he should dodge fairly well

odd python
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any ideas for wilder 160? i haven’t tried eironn yet but i doubt he’ll do much at e+

glossy pagoda
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Lorsan could be silvbait while applying the damage share thing, if u have him.

odd python
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yeah thats what im trying just not sure where to put him

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should i fodder kaz to get eironn to m rowanflushed

olive moth
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ive gotten extremely lucky with summons and now is confused on what my team should be

still oar
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Keep going. You're fine with your current @olive moth

devout idol
unkempt parcel
modest dove
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@novel adder any suggestions here?tried tons of combinations..none seem to really work..have yet to swap gear ard but i dunno if tat’s gonna make THAT much of a difference..

novel adder
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@modest dove might need to try ferael carry.. you should get him +20 when you can regardless of this stage ;P
something like
Ferael
Lucius
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora
or try lyca in lucius place and hope for good dodges and run shem in the middle.. you need some rng to silence shem.. shem can do work if seirus gets charmed and knocks tasi.. which delays the banish.. ferael carry usually means lyca gets banished i think.. unless ur lucius is too powerful im not sure.

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@unkempt parcel you either have to manually cast lucius ult right before soren charms.. or put dura's call on lucius, drop lyca for warek.. and after warek has done 2 ults (behind soren now) you go manual and cast everybody's ult except warek to keep him behind soren.. that prevents your team from being charmed

unkempt parcel
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good idea thanks

fringe mural
modest dove
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@novel adder yeps i’m actually working on his SI right now..ok will try both as much as possible..thanx so much!

obtuse orchid
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I am using a team with shemira, and 4 lightbearers Shemira is ascended and is my main dps. I was wondering if i should make rosaline mythic, or Belinda into mythic + ?

winter matrix
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Belinda into M+. Your goal is to get 5 Ascendeds as soon as possible. For you to get Belinda to A its 1 more E+ Belinda, but Rosaline to A is 2 more L+ fodders and another E+ Rosaline

novel adder
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@fringe mural for now you can run a light mauler mix..
belinda+lucius, brutus, vurk, numisu/skriath..
or mix and match with your light duo.. belinda+lucius
with ulmus/wukong, lyca, nemora/tasi
or with wukong, shemira, raine.. something like that. keep flexible

fringe mural
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@novel adder my brutus is way too weak at this level i havent been lucky enough to get a second card yet :/ so i guess ill try the other combos and also who do u think i should focus on ascending?

modest dove
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@novel adder thanx!!passed it!!wow..thanx a million again

novel adder
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@devout idol who does fawkes banish?..pretty sure your 240 shem should be of use somewhere
try
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shem
Fawkes.
Or if lucius isn't surviving
Bel
Brutus
shem
Lucius
Rowan
something along those lines.. you can also try nemora to charm the ferael

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@fringe mural brutus is a good low investment tank. the immunity mechanic means he will always hold the frontline for a bit even with 0 gear.. so he's alright.. level 141 will be great for him because his immunity almost doubles in time.. the idea is to mix and match depending on the stage.. some combinations will do better than others depending on what youre facing.
As for who to invest..at the moment look at legendary tier heroes like saveas, hogan, mirael, arden, silvina etc.. because its best to see how your pulls turn out before investing in ascended tier heroes.. if you dont get more copies of them you're kinda stuck and wasted some time and fodder.. have a look at the pinned tips in #classic-questions.it covers all the basic principles and things you should consider before investment.. if you need follow up help, you can ask in questions as well or tag me there.

obtuse orchid
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@winter matrix thank you very much

sharp plank
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I’m getting wrecked by Belinda

winter matrix
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Ss of your heroes

fringe mural
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@novel adder yeah thats what ive been doing so far i always mix around and try to find what works for each stage but im halfway through chapter 10 and all the enemies are starting to become mythic now, i get stuck on levels often so i wanted to make like a solid lineup of ascended heroes and just focus on levelling and ascending them, is it too early for that?

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Ill check the pinned tips now thanks

charred wind
olive moth
pale kettle
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@charred wind
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira

charred wind
pale kettle
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@charred wind so far it's the best formation to beat up that level, and for artifacts, it's up to you, change them to the heroes you are using

charred wind
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@pale kettle okey thank you

pale kettle
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@charred wind you're welcome mate

novel adder
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@charred wind no 5 A and 200 crystal is hard moving forward, prioritize your 5th A hero asap.. for this stage you can try
Nemora
Shem
Arden
Tasi
Lyca
You need nemora to charm seirus and opposing arden get disrupted by something.. (shem silence/your arden).. seirus roaming free is the main problem of 23-10...

charred wind
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@novel adder thanks i try this

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@novel adder the fight is over after 2 seconds...

novel adder
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i mean if you're chapter 23 i believe i dont really have to tell you that rng matters a lot..

charred wind
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Yeah i know

novel adder
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a crit/dodge/ cc targets change the outcome drastically

charred wind
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I will try it a few more time

novel adder
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some battles i die in 2 secs.. next try i win with all 5 full hp

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not uncommon

pale kettle
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@novel adder that happens almost all time chapters +20, things get random

novel adder
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yup XD that's why i thought i didnt need to say that haha

pale kettle
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Haha agree

charred wind
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I have also problems on tower 280 :/

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I thought the new tree give me some more power but also no chance to beat any of the actual lvls...

novel adder
winter matrix
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Have u tried using mercs?

charred wind
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@novel adder ok only lyca is better than mine...

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I mean a higher class maybe not better lol

novel adder
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yup.. the lyca probably dodged a bit.. which is completely gear related

charred wind
winter matrix
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Try again. Half this game is just rng

charred wind
pale kettle
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Tasi
Shemira
Athalia
Brutus
Belinda

clear saddle
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@charred wind Could try something like:

Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Merc Isabella or something

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Just depends on your RNG with arden, and hope that he can root the two fawkes.

charred wind
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Thanks i try both line ups :)

clear saddle
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👌

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Nice one 🙂

pale kettle
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@charred wind well done

charred wind
hazy comet
winter matrix
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@hazy comet For a line up u can do something like

Belinda/Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
Wukong
Arden

Also I suggest u read the guides in the Pinned comments of #classic-questions to get a grasp of the game

hazy comet
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Will try thank you!

subtle talon
winter matrix
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@subtle talon try

Saveas/Belinda
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Tasi/ Nemora

Also get all your E+ heroes to 120. And get that Belinda to 140. But dont ascend any other heroes to L unless u can ascend them to L+. For now u just have to go afk and lvl up your heroes

subtle talon
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@winter matrix tomorrow I can get Belinda to l+, that’s why I got her to l 🙂 and ty 🙂

winter matrix
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You can raise your level cap by reseting Lucius and Brutus, and then lvling up Arden & Shemira. For now your lvl cap is 100 because u are using 2 E heroes in your crystal pentagram. Reset them and replace them with E+ heroes or higher

Thats good, but as I'm sure you've been told many times dont ascend to L unless you can L+ right after

willow moon
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still tellin people eh? some things never change @winter matrix

winter matrix
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People have to knowsnarlaugh

willow moon
winter matrix
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You could try using Athalia & Nara on those Tasis so no one gets banished. Then try putting shem in front row and Ferael in back middle

I dunno tho im just an idiot

willow moon
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lmao my Nara sucks so it doesn't do much.. and shem gets shredded in front

winter matrix
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Because the Ira, her nemesis

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You can do

Nara
Brutus
Fawkes/Tasi
Shemira
Athalia

In hopes that Ira gets banished

ionic scaffold
winter matrix
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You can try putting a Nemora against the Ferael so he will ghost his team.

Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes/Tasi

ionic scaffold
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I've noticed that my Nem either doesn't charm anything or it fails a lot of the time.

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Same with Tasi's Banish

winter matrix
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Then retry. This game is 80% rng

ionic scaffold
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Oh it's probably cause of Arden..... I didn't even realize

winter matrix
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You can try putting Athalia / Nara against Arden

ionic scaffold
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Ooooo Nara vs Ardev is a good idea

winter matrix
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Use multiple carries, so Something like Baden, Shemira, Belinda. And then energy heroes Rowan and Rosaline @sharp flame

sharp flame
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I run @winter matrix

Belinda
----Shem
Rowan
----Rosa
Twins

But got only 7M

winter matrix
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As I said. Theres only 2 carries in that team and 1 will be killed in the first 15s. Use more

violet temple
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Anyone have any advice for 170 graveborn tower

forest carbon
violet temple
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@forest carbon so on both soren and wrizz i ise almost the same lineup. Wrizz. Rowan rosa twinz lorsan and belinda. For soren i use the same except no twinz and replace with lucius

forest carbon
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I don't have twins or lorsan

violet temple
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Hmm since you are a bit lower level you can use shemira as your damage then look for characters that buff her damage. Rosa is one of the best for that. Her ultimate energy is given to your highest rated hero. So it refreshes shemira ulti

winter matrix
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@forest carbon Use baden / Grezhul / Athalia to turn Soren around

elfin warren
winter matrix
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Get Rowan to 140, and dont make L heroes unless u can L+ right after. For lineup do

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda/Eironn
Nemora

Also reset Lucius and lvl Safiya to raise lvl cap to 120

elfin warren
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Sorry what do you mean by don't make L heroes? Oh like Rowan? Yeah that was an early mistake, also I have enough purple dust to make one character 101, which one do you reccomend?

winter matrix
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Probably Belinda. For now you can swap Belinda and Saveas aroung but a chaoter later Saveas will be your carry. Make sure u get him to L+

charred wind
tawny plinth
elfin warren
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Okay thank you <3

brave oriole
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try this, shem Lucius, Backline fawk mehira rowan on the Lucius side

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even athalia can be used vs arden, instead of rowan let's say

pale kettle
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2 question:
who should I level up to 81 (I have 550 purple thing)
What team should I build (by that I mean what about Safiya, is she useful for me currently)

winter matrix
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You should get Numisu. Also work on Saveas and get him to 160 as soon as possible. You can raise your lvl cap by reseting all E heroes and leveling E+. Then out the E heroes in crystal. For a comp do

Saveas
Wukong
Numisu
Antandra/Golus
Nemora/Belinda

rare night
winter matrix
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Just wait and do lab. You'll get that E+ Shemira and then feed Vedan. Get the M Shemira to 180

haughty herald
winter matrix
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Stop making L heroes. Only make a hero L if u can get him to L+ right away. U might not get the E+ copy needes for a long time and will be stuck on L with no fodder.

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Drop Shemira. She becomes good after lvl 161+. Saveas and Belinda will be your carries for now. Get all your L heroes to lvl 140 and reset the E warek and lvl up an E+ hero. This will raise your lvl cap to 120

rare night
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@winter matrix yeh thats my plan but i wanted to see if i could complete without it

haughty herald
#

Alright then, thanks for the advice :))

mortal flax
shy shale
#

Just tired of wasting diamonds resetting heroes.

winter matrix
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Just go afk and lvl everyone to 81

small acorn
#

@pale kettle
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shem
Tasi

Nem has to charm fereal to haunt his own team

shy shale
#

Still need help on mine ^^

winter matrix
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I told you to go afk and lvl everyone to 81. You're early game so for now its just lvling up @shy shale

pale kettle
somber pecan
winter matrix
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Take out Ferael, he isnt good before M. Try putting Athalia/Nara against Arden

somber pecan
ionic berry
#

Need help on 26-24

placid flower
celest geyser
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Waiting on a Lucius or Grezhul merc to replace Shemira here, but any tips otherwise?

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Kings tower 289, clearing this gets me enough diamonds for a ten pull

stiff bane
shy crag
placid flower
#

shem, lyca, tasi, arden + filler

knotty ice
echo bloom
frosty axle
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Reset ur shemira, lvl up ur arden and get shem to crystal. I think it will be better

golden finch
echo bloom
#

wouldnt that leave me exactly where i am atm? 😛 swapping 2 characters in the crystal isnt exactly changing their levels till i start levelling supports in probably a week or so

frosty axle
#

Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Estrilda
Thane
@golden finch

modest dove
jolly tide
pale kettle
#

Hey guys would it be better if I were to use fawkes rather than ferael?

pearl bramble
#

That archer one shots all my characters is there any hope of me beating it at my current level 😩😩😩

winter matrix
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@jolly tide You're early game, so drop Shemira. She's good onky after lvl 161+ . Saveas and Belinda will be your carries for now. Your lineup could look like

Saveas
Lucius
Nemora/Mirael
Brutus
Arden

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@shell heron Just go afk and get all your heroes to lvl 160.

shell heron
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Okay, thanks

jolly tide
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thanks cwonk! thats basically the lineup i had but switching out kas for lucius

lunar berry
winter matrix
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@lunar berry Dont ascend anyone to L unless you can go to L+ right away. Also by reseting the E Belinda and lvling the E+ Belinda she can get to lvl 120. Also reset Wukong and lvl another E+ to 120. If there are Elite heroes in your pentagram your team is capped at lvl 100

lunar berry
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Who should I sub for wukong?

ember bough
winter matrix
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@lunar berry You can keep using Wukong just reset his levels, because other heroes can be leveled higher. Then put him in the crystal

open crystal
#

So I’m running wukong but he’s level gating me. Should I reset him for someone I can level higher?

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And just throw him in the crystal if I wanna use him?

gleaming nacelle
limpid pumice
gleaming nacelle
#

At this point all your elites

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Is what you should be leveling put the rest in the crystal

zinc wren
gleaming nacelle
#

Can is ezpz

hot bison
winter matrix
#

Nemora
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Saveas

hot bison
#

The enemy sav just one shots my lucius

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Switched the places of brutus and lucius, luc got 2 ults off but still wasnt enough to win it

gleaming nacelle
#

Can anyone help me out with my post above

marble hawk
trim silo
#

Should I sacrifice my Groot for a Mythic Tasi?

wise ermine
winter matrix
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Use Baden to turn Soren around. You can do something like

Saveas
Wukong
Baden
Hugan
Belinda

karmic briar
winter matrix
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@karmic briar Okay for a team comp I would do

Nemora
Eironn
Ulmus
Wukong
Tasi

U get the 5 faction bonus and a lot of cc. Like I said get a Saveas/Mirael to L+ as soon as possible.

karmic briar
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I will give it a shot and see how it goes

umbral anvil
winter matrix
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@umbral anvil Dont make L heroes unless you can make them L+ right away. Start making a Saveas as at lvl 160 he will carry you to ch14. For lineup you could do

Nemora
Lucius
Eironn
Wukong
Belinda

Eironn will suck 3 heroes to him and then Wukong and Belinda will do AoE damage to those heroes.
Also go to the Ricety Cart and at the Retire Heroes tab press Auto retire green heroes when u get them

frail chasm
#

I also have 10 faction scrolls so I was wondering which faction would help me out the most

karmic briar
#

@winter matrix I don't have nemora yet, any replacement's?

split bane
olive thorn
#

Give us a screnshot of 24-60

winter matrix
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@karmic briar yes, you can replace her with Arden

split bane
sonic nebula
olive thorn
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@split bane you can try

Rowan
Shemira
Lucius
Fawkes
Athalia

Shem blade fawkes call rowan energy lucius chalice athalia eye

raw turret
#

I would advise you to stop making your ascended tier units legendary unless you can make them L+ immediately. Shemira gets a pass because she has guarenteed methods of being obtained, but you don't know when you'll get more Gorvo or Belinda copies.
Don't ascend everything as soon as you get the chance; I see you have E Golus and E Ankhira; that would have been a E+ Ankhira had you waited.

As for your team IMO the best option is

Rosaline
Shemira
Mirael
Gorvo
Fawkes

Faction scrolls probably should go to LB

@frail chasm

split bane
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Fawkes dies 1 hit to athalia, all my non tanks do actually

karmic briar
#

Why shouldn't we level heroes to legends before we can make them l+?

raw turret
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Because you're never guarenteed a copy of anything. If your units are all stuck at 140 because you don't have an E+ copy to get to 160, and you're stuck on a chapter, you essentially cucked yourself a lot of progression when you could have gotten Legendary tier heroes to L+ instead.

olive thorn
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That's why I tell you to give him call who give more extra dodge, you can instant reset if fawkes don't dodge the first athalia dash

karmic briar
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@raw turret thanks

raw turret
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np

wise ermine
still oar
#

Maybe Hogan so you can have faction bonus

icy sigil
shy shale
vast nymph
#

no not isabellabelindawhat

shy shale
#

Trust me..I LOVE MY GRAVEBORNS. But I wanna push thru this wall too

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Anyone with sound advice..
Cause I may click this button is a sec.
Not getting diamonds enough for a Saveas bump.

forest carbon
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It won't push through any wall even if you ascend

olive moth
forest carbon
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You're not even at a wall. Just afk and level up. Your crystal is only 77

vast nymph
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ikr

wintry olive
#

What character do we need to answer the riddle on The Frozen Pass?

vast nymph
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Vurk, use it in the battle before the stone thing

wintry olive
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Vurk?! Fuck! I haven’t even gotten that little shrimp up on the crystal yet. Ugh.

olive moth
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can someone build me a team ^^^^

wintry olive
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No. Wait. I haven’t even unlocked that character yet. DOUBLE FUCK!

vast nymph
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@olive moth don't ascend anything to L unless you can ascend them straight to L+ (your Lucius)

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I say that because I did that on my main and it's been stuck for a while

olive moth
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yooks

vast nymph
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@wintry olive you could borrow it from a guildmate or a friend through mercenary

forest carbon
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Skreg also works @wintry olive

wintry olive
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Skreg is the only other Mauler I don’t have.

forest carbon
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You'll have to merc

fleet notch
vast nymph
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Lucius, Estrilda front, Belinda, Totem dude, Saveas back

gleaming nacelle
opal dune
remote otter
#

I've heard so much about this one and ive tried once I hate it already

rain oriole
remote otter
#

Do you happen to know what relics and I got murdered again lol

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@rain oriole

rain oriole
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@remote otter it was probably blade Shem, call Rosa, drape Rowan, eye Arden, I think my Lucius was pulling Rosa so I took relic of him, I do remember it taking alot of retries and gettint some RNG on Arden roots and Luci shields

oak lance
odd python
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@oak lance try
nara
shem
rowan
tasi
athalia

manual athalia and tasi ult to interrupt lucius ults

iron wing
teal glade
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I can merc a kaz eironn or gorvo for wilder 130. While h would be best? 20sig eironn. 10sig kaz. 0 gorvo. All ascebded

I have an ascended tasi nemora to use and l+ Luca, arden, kaz, seirus, l ulmus

pale kettle
icy sigil
pale kettle
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Skreg is killing my team

odd python
marsh mountain
odd python
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@pale kettle do you have safiya available?

raw turret
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What should I use for evil nemora?

odd python
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@raw turret shem rosa rowan twins estrilda looks pretty popular right now, but you should just look at what people at the top your leaderboard are using and copy that

pale kettle
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I’ll try to get one

raw turret
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Okay thanks

pale kettle
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Where should i put her?

odd python
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so its
athalia
thoran
rowan
brutus
safiya

pale kettle
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Thanks! I’ll try it

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I dont have a rowan I might use lyca

odd python
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if you dont have another safiya available i can lend mine

pale kettle
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Okay i add you

odd python
#

one sec

pale kettle
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Thanks! Meldrum is my in game name aswell

raw turret
odd python
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np

velvet palm
#

anyone wanna help me with my lineup so i could beat a boss

shy mesa
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@velvet palm I'm trying to get to sleep so post your stage and heroes

velvet palm
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aight

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im underleveled arent i

shy mesa
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@velvet palm Your level is fine, try Tasi instead of Raine your team lacks CC, I would also consider putting Kaz in instead of Lucius because of faction disadvantage but I don't know your leather situation

pale kettle
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Skreg kills her 😦

velvet palm
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aight ill try it

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nope vurk murdered tasi

shy mesa
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I would also try Orthros in front of Vedan because of his time thing

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Switch Tasi to be where Belinda is

odd python
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@pale kettle try safiya athalia lyca backline then

velvet palm
#

alright

odd python
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it might be the rowan heal that counts for a lot

velvet palm
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nope half my team dies within 10 seconds

shy mesa
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@velvet palm you just gotta figure out why you die and try to build your team to prevent it otherwise just afk get some levels and come back

velvet palm
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aight

final meteor
teal glade
slim crow
#

Which would best to use and ascend

rich steeple
drifting nimbus
#

i need help making an set of pvp line ups for the tournament and one main one for the arena

finite viper
teal glade
novel fulcrum
solemn ingot
#

Any help? Just tryna get a decent squad togetogether lol

brittle summit
prime skiff
amber kestrel
frosty axle
rocky crescent
woven lichen
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@brittle summit try fawkes instead of tasi so he clears evil spirits. Could maybe try gwyn at middle back too

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@prime skiff what stage? Maybe nara or athalia to stop Eironn and Nara/athalia/Nemora to stop Arden

prime skiff
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21-10

woven lichen
prime skiff
woven lichen
prime skiff
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my ascension of the Wilders isn't that high

odd python
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@amber kestrel could try nemora backline top and have her charm enemy safiya during ult which it looks like you pretty much already have

amber kestrel
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@woven lichen @odd python tyvm

proven thunder
limpid pumice
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Should I just be leveling these first 5 epics as my main team?

woven lichen
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@prime skiff don’t need high ones... example only has legendary

prime skiff
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is there strategy for duras and the like

woven lichen
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@limpid pumice no you are probably better off leveling saveas 20-40 levels above everyone else.. add golus Mirael Hogan and thane/wu Kong... that should get you several stages further until you pull more heroes

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@prime skiff usually call on Nemora or Arden. Otherwise Nemora could do eye or chalice. Lyca grace. Shemira is eye or blade... could do call if you can’t ult at all. Defensive one on Brutus

nimble fossil
woven lichen
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@frosty axle try tasi in front and Nemora at bottom to charm ira or saveas

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@nimble fossil instead of Belinda, use Nemora to charm warek or Mirael

rocky crescent
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@woven lichen don’t think that second one will work with skregs buff, he now stuns and interrupts mages on front line now. First one. I’ll try tomorrow when I have patience to swap gear. Thank you

woven lichen
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@pale kettle
Lyca/tasi/Nemora
-Ferael
Athalia
-Rowan
Nara
(Crowd control for both mirael and Arden... could try shemira for athalia since she could silence Arden or Mirael too)

nimble fossil
pale kettle
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@woven lichen tried it couple of times already before you mention it, guess all I need is some luck

woven lichen
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@nimble fossil try
Nemora
-shemira/Lucius
Arden
-Lucius/shemira
(Bottom doesn’t seem as dangerous.. hopefully Arden gets root out before khasos boomerangs)
Lyca

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@solemn ingot Tidus Brutus Safiya Arden gorvo?

solemn ingot
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@woven lichen Which order do u think would be best?

woven lichen
novel fulcrum
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@woven lichen got it ty tho

pale kettle
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@woven lichen however, ty

woven lichen
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@solemn ingot depends on stage but can try something like..

Tidus
-gorvo
Arden
-Brutus
Safiya
(Not entirely sure what level range you are at but saveas is pretty strong from L61-160)

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@novel fulcrum alright nice job! 🙂

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@pale kettle good luck 👍

novel fulcrum
#

pushed and finished 21 also 🙂 got enough to ascend my tasi

sacred badge
#

FanTASItic!!

nimble fossil
woven lichen
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@nimble fossil what other heroes do you have?

nimble fossil
woven lichen
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@nimble fossil hm I probably would have tried with saveas at 160.... Saveas Talene Rosa Lucius and Arden

sacred badge
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1.Lucius
2.Shemira
3.Arden
4. Lyca
5. Wukong (for synergy) / or Saveas for Damage. See how it goes.

nimble fossil
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I don’t have enough dust for Saveas at the moment

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Wait, who will be in the front line, @woven lichen?

woven lichen
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@nimble fossil I would use saveas over ferael. Talene and Lucius can be frontline. Alternatively with saveas overlevel she can be front with Talene at middle back to cause healing when khasos throws the axes

sacred badge
#

Put Shemira to front (ideal position is #2 where she faces Warek). This will help her get her Special ready faster. Shemira is your key player here. Sooner she gets her special up, the better.

nimble fossil
#

Still getting beat up

sacred badge
#

But improvement from previous attempts? Who exactly are you using? I see in your last picture you are using Shemira at #1. That is bad because there she will get hit by knock ups and probably fire Shield damage from Mirael.

winter matrix
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Take out shemira.

Arden
Saveas
Nemora
Lucius
Lyca/Belinda

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Shemira before 161+ is poopoo

odd python
sacred badge
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@odd python your Thorane is debuffing Tasi or Nemora?

odd python
#

ira

nimble fossil
#

Okay @winter matrix the team you suggested lasted longer, but only managed to kill two enemies before being killed off

azure yarrow
#

Should I use my faction scrolls to try and get Shem to mystic ? Or should I try and pull Tasi and get lyca to L+

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I'm on chapter 12-12

winter matrix
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@nimble fossil Work off that team. Replace the people that died with some DPS to kill enemies

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If you need fodder for Shem go foe GB. She will really carry you at lvl 161+. But that fodder will come in time. By doing dailies and weeklies.... Your team is already 5 L+ so u dont need Lyca to improve your lvl cap. @azure yarrow

sacred badge
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@odd python If Ira is being debuffed then maybe put Nara infront of Ira to finish her quickly, less bleed for your team that way.

odd python
#

ira isnt the problem in this stage

sacred badge
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@azure yarrow Tasi and Lyca are support units. Shemira is real deal, you got to get her leveled up faster. She can carry 1v5. I vote for Shemira.

odd python
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if nara is put across from ira, thoran doesn't take enough damage to weaken ira through taint

sacred badge
#

Then put Thoran on position # 2?

azure yarrow
#

Alright my whole thing is I'm trying to plan ahead also

odd python
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like i said, it doesn't matter if ira dies fast or not, it's the control and healing by the other 4

azure yarrow
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So I should just get Shemira to 161 asap so push the most so I can afk for better exp ect ?

winter matrix
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Yes. Shemira at 161+ will carry you to ch 24. But u need 1 morw GB fodder so I would go for GB from scrolls.

sacred badge
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Pushing Shemira to 161 should be priority. Tasi and Lyca are good but they can't carry your team. Shemira can.

azure yarrow
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At lvl 180 how far can Shem carry on her own ?

sacred badge
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@odd python How about letting Nara face Nemora then? That way it will delay Nemora's mind control. Might help.

pale garden
odd python
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i tried that for a bit earlier but delaying tasi banish seems to help more

winter matrix
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@azure yarrow at lvl 180 Shemira will carry you to ch 16-17

sacred badge
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@azure yarrow Not exactly sure but she'll carry chapter 17,18,19 if you keep focusing on her.

odd python
winter matrix
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@pale garden Feed the 2 Hogans to Belinda and make her L+. U have another E+ copy. She is a good carry at L+. For a lineup you could do

Belinda
Lucius
Mehira
Brutus
Saveas

pale garden
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@winter matrix cool! Ill do that. Ive been nervous to advance anyone to L+ since its so costly. But it seems the concensus is that belinda is worth it

winter matrix
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Yea, also start buying Shemira from the Lab Store, she will carry you after you get her to M

sacred badge
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You can always wait.. Who knows? Blinda is worthy yes but if you are lucky enough to find more Shemira copies, she'll do better than Blinda.

winter matrix
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Not in that part of the game. He only got an E Shemira, and that wont do anything before lvl 161+

pale garden
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Yeah, im buying shemiras only from here on from lab store, i bought a nemora early because i had noooo good healers

azure yarrow
#

Also I need everyone at 140 to get shem to 161 right ?

sacred badge
#

Sure but he/she should start focusing on getting Shemira to M from now on so not to waste resources on other less worthy units.

winter matrix
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@azure yarrow Yes

azure yarrow
#

Ok thanks

nimble fossil
sacred badge
#

Use Shemira on #2 at #1 Saveas and knock ups will abuse her. Also there is only 1x mage in enemy team so Farrael isn't doing much here you can replace him with Arden or Saveas.

nimble fossil
#

Still getting beat

sacred badge
#

Enemy Saveas will pretty much kill anyone very fast on #1 position. Try using a tanky unit there (Brutus is good option as he can last few more seconds).
Idea is to get somebody who can keep Saveas busy while your damage dealers take out bottom row..

Areden and / or Nemora help here with Roots and Mind Control.

tribal phoenix
#

Any help will be appreciated

winter matrix
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Stop making L heroes.

Eironn (Hopefully sucks Ferael before ghosts)
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

wintry ether
pale kettle
#

What lineup do i need vs this. Getting rekt atm

outer egret
#

Been spamming all types of combos, anyone got any suggestions?

sacred badge
#

Switch Tasi's position with Shemira.
Instead of Fawkes, use Raine or Rowan.
But place Rowan somewhere in range of Shemira.

tawny jewel
rustic locust
#

For 11-40

raw turret
#

belinda
lucius
rowan
talene
rosaline

@rustic locust

rustic locust
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Thanks

quartz palm
#

Hello! Can someone help me with team comp? Started playing yesterday, got Shemira just now, should like to know who should I replace her with. Using atm: Front (Hendrik+Thoran), Back (Tasi+,Belinda and Rosaline).
Also if someone could tell me if and which Legendary tier heroes are worth rising.

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If with this heroes I can make any other change for the better let me know as well

sacred badge
#

@quartz palm welcome to Afk Arena. You just started yesterday but you already have Shemira, Tasi and Blinda. Which means you are going to have a good start because these Heroes are top tier.

Since you just started, there is a-lot to pay attention here. For example:
Shemira will carry you from start to Mid game so you must level her up 161+
To level her up you have to Ascend her.
To Ascend her you must have her duplicate copies (ascension guides are available in the #545929173471068170 channel).

azure yarrow
#

Should I use guild.coins to buy mystic.gear for Sav or.Shem ?

forest carbon
#

Shem

still oar
#

Shem for longer investment @azure yarrow

azure yarrow
#

Alright should I buy the best and helmet and wait until the pot and faction tower for.boots and weapon ?

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Chest*

pale kettle
still oar
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No. Buy boots and weapon first is fine since you still a long way from the free ones @azure yarrow

azure yarrow
#

Alright thanks

still oar
#

Try
Arden

Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Nemora
Retry until you start the fight with both Arden and kaz are rooted first.
And if you don't mind 201+ shemira first instead @pale kettle

restive mauve
#

Nvm. Got really lucky just now and beat it after 200 retries 😅

austere stag
uncut robin
cedar birch
tall forge
opal dune
austere stag
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@tall forge Lyca in middle and Nemora on opposite side, you want to try charming Kaz

opal portal
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@floral minnow...you need healer and cc hero

gleaming nacelle
floral minnow
#

Any suggestions with my heroes? @opal portal

scarlet pebble
#

Any suggestions? I just don't have the damage to kill that Nemora. Actually considering taking Belinda to legendary to try and get some more damage because I'm not rolling any Mauler fodder

gloomy coral
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use some faction bonus @scarlet pebble

jade pike
#

Hey guys, i'm looking to rework my wishlist for faction tower, right now i'm :
LightB 88 : Fawkes Lucius Rosaline Belinda Rowan (i will probably won't change anything there tho)
Mauler 50 : Brutus Khasos Antandra Skreg (i miss 1 spot on crystal to complete this team but i think the last one will be safiya)
wilder 60 : Lyca Khaz Nemora Tasi Gorvo (i thought about removing khaz and gorvo and replace them by Eiron + Ulmus/seirus)
GraveB 67 : Nemora Thoran Izold Ferael Nara ( Here i'm completely lost, i feel just dropping random good characters)

Any suggestions ?

gloomy coral
#

swipe that credit card @jade pike

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best possible answer to anything relating afk arena ;D

jade pike
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yea well, won't happen ^^'

gloomy coral
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im just joking, on a serious note, that looks fine ;D

scarlet pebble
#

I'd be using faction bonuses if it were an option, but the heroes/gear I've pulled don't really allow it

still oar
#

Try
Belinda

Luc
Rosa
Lorsan
Tasi
Who does this banish?
@scarlet pebble

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Make Rosa folow Belinda for faster or double ult

limpid pumice
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Should my main team be wukong Hogan seveaus golus and mirael?

olive moth
pale kettle
#

what counters skreg his stomping ability?

winter matrix
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Lvl everyone to 81, and take out Shemira. She isnt really a tank before lvl 161+.

Saveas
Wukong
Mirael
Lucius
Arden/Lorsan
@olive moth

quiet barn
winter matrix
#

Just lvl everyone to 160. The stages after will be really hard with a lvl 141 crystal. You could do

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
@quiet barn

quiet barn
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So just farm for a while you mean?

winter matrix
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Yes. After a few chapter all you will do is farm

limpid pumice
quiet barn
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Yeah just want to get to 16-11 asap haha

winter matrix
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@limpid pumice

Nemora
Wukong
Mirael
Hogan
Saveas

Get Saveas to L+ as soon as possible. He is a really good carry at that stage.

ebon veldt
pale kettle
brave oriole
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it's much work for you

winter matrix
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Start making a Saveas. At lvl 160 he is godly. You should use Rowan as he is imo the best support in the game

Saveas
Skreg
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda

pale kettle
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switch Nemora and Rosaline so Nemora can try and charm enemy Arden @pale kettle

brave oriole
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for start make your Belinda L, using mirael and Hogan. then make your Belinda 140,put rowan in the Chrystal and go bel Lucius rowan rosa and maybe izhold if you can make him l with Ira and silvina

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I would. make. Lucius l also

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so @pale kettle you can pm me cuz it will work faster

pale kettle
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I think I’ll wait for more food. I can still make mirael and hogan L+ if I had the food and then they could be used to make a mythic. Also would want to wait until I got more copies so I don’t get stuck at L and can’t get more copies for a while

winter matrix
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Yea you don't want to get stuck at L

brave oriole
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you will never get stuck with l, when its about Belinda and Lucius. if you focus your faction scrolla on lbgrezchamp

winter matrix
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But in this case I would make Belinda L, like Xperta said

brave oriole
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and lb are the most useful, I would focus all the faction pulls on them, and be sure that you have full filled your whish list, else it won't work

pale kettle
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True Belinda I know I can make L+ she’s not that rare of a roll. I just don’t want to sacrifice my mirael and hogan just yet

brave oriole
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and ofc, buy everytime your shemira from. lab

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there's no other way to progress than using your fodders right

winter matrix
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Belinda will replace Mirael and she can also be used in frontline. You can replace Hogan with Skreg, Estrilda...

brave oriole
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having a rowan, even e, rosaline, even e, will change your game totally, trust me

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all you need its a strong front line, that's all

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trust me, making l bel and Lucius, it's enough to go in chap 14 just now

pale kettle
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Oh yeah I know I started using Rowan on my main just as E and he got me through an entire chapter. This is like my third account so I suppose I can give up my fodder. I’m sure I’ll get plenty more copies anyways

brave oriole
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means, some faction scrolls, and some copies for Lucius bel rowan etc

winter matrix
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You'll get your fodder back. For now upgrade your A tier heroes

brave oriole
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ofc I'm using shem, but you have time to farm her too, she's a must from lab shop

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the trick of this game it's to keep your front line always strong, till 240,means over lvled heroes

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Backline you can use lowers lvls, as you can see on me

pale kettle
opal dune
brave oriole
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@pale kettle yep without any doubt

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@opal dune reset your Backline heroes to lvl 80,and push Belinda to 120

pale kettle
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Who to replace hogan? Put Belinda and saveas in front line?

brave oriole
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@pale kettle well, you can yeah, just lvl on max lvl your Belinda, she will solo everything with Rosa and rowan

opal dune
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@brave oriole Thank you, how about saveas ? Should i keep leveling him or shall i focus on bel ?

unreal vigil
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I am struggling with my line up

brave oriole
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@opal dune wait for more copies, then you will see whar and what. make sure that you only do x10 pulls, and fill your who's list full okay? else it won't work. lvl Belinda for now

pale kettle
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Should I reset anyone then to level Belinda higher?

unreal vigil
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im stuck on 1 quest for days now

brave oriole
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@pale kettle deppends of your exp, if you need exp to lvl bel at 180,yes

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@unreal vigil give us a ss of your stage and heroes

opal dune
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@brave oriole thanks for helping!

brave oriole
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@opal dune you have to have your carry hero, on 40 lvls higher if you can so, once there's 40 lvls gap, lvl a second hero, preferably a tank for front line

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mm, @unreal vigilyou have some bad ascensions

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do you buy shem. from. lab shop?

unreal vigil
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who is shem?

brave oriole
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shemira, graveborn

unreal vigil
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i don't think i did.

brave oriole
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she is on the lab shop, buy her everytime you can, she will carry you for many chapters

opal dune
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@brave oriole so maybe i replace saveas with a healer like nemora and fawkes with arden and level only belinda ?

brave oriole
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@opal duneyou need a second front line, i dont know which one it's the. most geared for you to tank enough

unreal vigil
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Is there anything i can do with thestuff i have?

brave oriole
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@unreal vigil yeah but not insta, you have 3 gb fodders, and nothing to ascend with them

pale kettle
brave oriole
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@unreal vigilyou have to build a team around of your Belinda, but i dont know what. golus can tank with bel, as second. line would be good Rosa rowan arden mehira the twins or so

opal dune
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@brave oriole okey maybe i'll put hendrik with lucius, so something like

Belinda
_____lucius
Rowan
_____Hendrik/Wukong
Saveas

brave oriole
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@pale kettle fawk is a. must this stage to. coffin shemira, try it instead of nemora, and put rowan middle

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@opal dune you can use fawk instead of Hendrick, he will coffin like a pro

twin robin
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is my seveas too far ahead of the rest ?

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i could try to push for 2 lvl 101 skills in my comp

brave oriole
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he is not, but he need to be l or. l+ already

twin robin
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erm working on it .....

brave oriole
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I would try mehira as carry, dunno how. many copies. of her your get

twin robin
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0 😄 all i have is in that pic 😄

brave oriole
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put her on your mauler whish list,

limpid pumice
twin robin
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i have a lot of blue arden+ and ira+ 😄

brave oriole
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well, arden it's not that good till 141,ira dps is amazing, maybe you can get her l or l+

twin robin
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i'm saving up some resources to go pulls and go from there, atm i can do 50

brave oriole
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@limpid pumice this too hard to say now, you have just started, but 2 tanks, like wukong and the next to him, Backline nemora mirael. middle and one more. also, never lvl more than 5 heroes, the others put them on the Chrystal to get lvl Ed, you are waiting exp

pale kettle
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@brave oriole I still can't make it even though Kaz dies

brave oriole
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@pale kettleshow me your stage, did you put fawk down? cuz he will die there

unreal vigil
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i guess ill just play around

brave oriole
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@unreal vigil you need to get shemira copies, you have 3 gb fodders l+, and nothing to use with, that's bad

pale kettle
brave oriole
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@pale kettleyeah fawk dies there, put him. up on Rosa. place. she will walk to shem and stuck silvina on brutus

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I would use dura's grace on shem, eye on fawk, energy on rowan, def on brutus, sword on rosa

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also @pale kettle, my advice it's to 220 Brutus, would work better, Rosa can be 180

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when you will have dust for your last 200 and shem. 240,you can reset

pale kettle
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@brave oriole well the same result

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@brave oriole but maybe you are right, i Will check 220lvl brutus

brave oriole
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it's better to have Brutus 220,you can't use always Rosa in your team, sometimes you need arden fawk athalia nemora etc

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tbh, even rowan 220 and front line it's not a bad combo. also

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try with Brutus 220, but again, Rosa not works on every stage

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in your situation, of you remove Rosa, silvina target rowan and he will never die

pale kettle
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@brave oriole nice after all this time, 220lvl brutus did it, thanks for help

brave oriole
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calculate your dust, when you will have to insta shem. 240,go.on,till then make your heroes 220 one by one

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I was buying dust everyday from shop, 3 times refreshing, and refreshing the bounties, never had difficulties with the dust

pale kettle
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Wait u mean this 500 dust?

brave oriole
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yep

ornate night
pale kettle
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Its worth?

brave oriole
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100 diamonds a refresh, and 500 dust more. its worth a lot

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@ornate night use arden vs arden maybe

next basin
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ferael athalia rowan lucius estrilda, good for end game?

ornate night
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he dies instantly everytime

pale kettle
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Dust from labyrinth is worth too?

brave oriole
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@pale kettle not a lot

pale kettle
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Okey

brave oriole
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only if emergency grezchamp

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@next basin estrilda not rlly, she's not on top of lb others are fine, ferael is the best dps endgame

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@ornate nightuse athalia vs arden then?

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@pale kettleyou can get sometimes 4 k dust daily from refreshing the shop and the bounties

next basin
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@brave oriole then what should i use instead of her? was wondering if brutus would be good but then my faction bonus will be 3/1

brave oriole
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@next basinwhat's your heroes?

next basin
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everyone ascended besides athalia for now

winter matrix
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And yea they good for end game

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But you'll need them all +30 5* to work

pale kettle
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@brave oriole well i have a problem, after improving brutus to 220lvl Rosa starts protect brutus not shemira, what now

brave oriole
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well, its a long time work the sigs

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@pale kettle easy to fix, replace a Brutus gear, check their attack rating, shem. to have more than brutus

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won't make a diff for Brutus, but for. rosa

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if Brutus use the dura's sword, can be the reason too

pale kettle
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What artifact for Rosa?

brave oriole
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mm, attack speed

winter matrix
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Some people use Blade or convict

pale kettle
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call

winter matrix
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Or that ye

pale kettle
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Verdan is boss

jolly tide
winter matrix
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Saveas to Legendary. Then to L+ and to lvl 160 as soon as possible

jolly tide
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ok

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I feel like it's gonna take a long ass time to get anyone to l+

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how do I speed up this process?

winter matrix
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You can pay... But thats up to you. Saveas to L+ is really easy, you just need 2 E+ fodders for L and then 1 more E+ Saveas for L+

thorny bay
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Is this a decent Challenger lineup? The only heroes not shown are an A Khasos and an A* Vurk. Would you change any lineup? I’m liking the 2nd lineup with Lyca and Ferael +20 and Eironn. I like Arthur in campaign but I heard he kinda sucks in Arena. That 2nd team is doing fairly well but it might be because of the rest of the team and not Arthur.

jolly tide
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but still, I'm not pulling that many rares to ascend, how do people summon so many heroes?

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I feel like I'm doing the maximum I can as a f2p player and I only have 50 elites smmoned in the past month for Ascension of heroes

winter matrix
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They mostly pay. But if you save 10 scrolls from dailies and weeklies you can get some blues

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Well you're still pretty early game so 50 Elites isnt bad

jolly tide
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ok that's good to know

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basically the way to get the most pulls is to do all my dailies and weeklies? cus I hit 120 and I'm not close to getting many legendary heroes

winter matrix
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Yea. And generaly dont ascend to L unless you can L+ right after. If you get stuck on L you're gonna waste all your fodder

jolly tide
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ok. but I should still get saveas to L cus I can't progress in the campaign any more?

winter matrix
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Getting fodder heroes to L is okay, as you will get the E+ copy really fast

jolly tide
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ok

thorny bay
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@jolly tide just make sure you don't use an ascended tier hero as fodder to get saveas to L. Only use a saveas/ankhira/gorvus to ascend him.

night orbit
#

Can someone suggest me how to beat Light tower lv 130?

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it's 2 athalia 2 thane 1 light gungirl

woeful wing
pale kettle
#

Any help on how to counter Vedan precisely? Whenever he Ults I’am kinda fucked
He even 1v4 my team while he was the last hero alive several times

quaint sapphire
floral minnow
#

Lineup help pls?

frosty vale
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I spend ages trying different compositions and very often end up saying "**** it", and just put my top 5 in a team. Very often it just works!

lofty depot
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@floral minnow replace Skreg with either Hogan or Brutus. Replacing Fawkes with Lyca could also work.

floral minnow
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@lofty depoti allready have brutus up the field

lofty depot
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Yes I am blind. @floral minnow Remove Skreg anyways

tall solar
#

Who should my next focus be for mythic? Im leaning towards Rowan for his SI, but not sure. Event coming up can get me 2 copies of him, or would it still be better to gun for scrolls?

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Line up is generally Shemira, Lucius, Rowan, Rosaline and Fawkes

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Actually i think i had a brain fart; rosa - not rowan. Hes not a reward

ashen mantle
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@tall solar theres rly no rush at ascending heroes atm, ur not even close to being level stuck. :)
Also about the usual lineup is shemira, lucius/brutus, tasi/nemora/lyca/arden, at least at those levels.
Its quite a safe lineup to try if ur stuck at a stage. :) gl with ur pulls.

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Also try to get to 141 crystal for arden his root is broken :)

tall solar
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Thanks. Finding the wilder trio is too weak to do anything other than insta die (14-39). Rosa rowan and fawkes at least get some benefit (potions, buffs, coffin) before they are murdered lol

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About 6000 dust from that 🙂 hoping it can cheese my way to faction towers at least

thorny bay
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i used rowan + rosa pretty much my entire time with shemira. Used wilder trio only on certain stages.

tall solar
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Maybe im just far past my means and i need to afk and level more than anything like youre saying.

ashen mantle
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@tall solar try to use arden instead of fawkess when his at 141 crystal :)

tall solar
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Will do thx

ashen mantle
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Its also true when i was at those lvls rowan and rosa didnt exist yet :) so havent tested them on lower lvls :P

tall solar
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If they get ults of i win the stage more times than not

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Double stack shemira melts faces 🙂

ashen mantle
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Just got my rowan to M, but his not strong enough to survive yet :(

tall solar
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Hear his SI is OP and great synergy with shemira for energy regen

ashen mantle
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@tall solar yeah the extra energy helps alot

ivory breach
austere nova
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Ya'll, i'm stuck on 25-56... with Tasi as boss, Arden, archer girl, athalia and Lyca. what was ya'll lineups for this battle?

sharp plank
amber escarp
river gazelle
brave oriole
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@river gazellegrezchamp

river gazelle
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Will try rn what articfacts? @brave oriole

brave oriole
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arden will root athalia easy

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mm, usually grace on shem, def on Lucius, energy on rowan, others are random

river gazelle
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It worked thanks

brave oriole
#

@austere novagrezchamp

austere nova
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@brave oriole ... you put Thoran and Rowan out in front?!

brave oriole
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yep

austere nova
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did rowan die asap? i think thoran would have too

brave oriole
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thoran have to die, rowan stayed alive

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Btw, my lyca had higher attack than bel, so tasi banished lyca for me and bel free hit

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put sword on lyca or so, maybe replace some bel items to get there

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my bel had shem gear on her, I can remember this

austere nova
brave oriole
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yeah, kinda but your shem will get banish I think

austere nova
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but here, my shemira is getting banished

brave oriole
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yep, I've used Belinda, with a lower rating than lyca

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put your lb gear on rowan, and use a diff faction gear on bel to get lower attack than lyca

austere nova
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aaaack... my Lyca has such a low atk score b/c her sig is not 20... Shemira with no gear has almost same atk power as Lyca with full gear 😦

brave oriole
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remove bel from library

proper nova
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Can somebody help me with 20-60 please?

brave oriole
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mhm, sure, show us your stage and heroes

proper nova
brave oriole
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kinda hard, usualy vs arden is athalia or arden, for shem fawk... try and Lucius tank, Backline you need athalia fawk, and now... I dunno, bel or shem

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you numitsu should be good upside front line

twin briar
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I swear, I must have retried 24-28 a hundred times.. Half the time, Fawkes fails to throw Ferael in the coffin. When Belinda is in the 3rd spot, angelo hits hard enough to remove Lucius' shield from her. And my Rowan gets skewered at the worst of moments. Maybe I need rosalind in there somewhere?

brave oriole
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hmm, let me find my stage ss

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your power is hight, you should be able to. win

brave oriole
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@twin briar I can't find my fight I see

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but i think that you need to put athalia vs mirael somehow

proper nova
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Athalia dies immediately even though i gave Her my best equip, who can i use instead?

brave oriole
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and remove brutua

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well, nara, kelthur..

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they are 4 lb, this is a stage for shemira tbh, Belinda will not do great

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shemira would silence mirael fast

proper nova
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I used estrilda instead of athalia and It worked so well, i didn't even get a scratch, Thank you so much

brave oriole
restive mauve
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@pale kettle if possible add arden or fawkes to the crystal.

I would try something like

Fawkes
--lucius (grace)
Rowan (with call)
--belinda
Rosa

If fawkes is no option, arden Should work better than gorvo in general. Put arden behind lucius. Maybe swap belinda to top and put lucius bottom with arden behind him

brave oriole
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@pale kettle maybe put Lucius instead of gorvo, and rowan middle. and add fawk instead of gorvo

pale kettle
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Ok, I'll try that

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Thanks! It worked on my third try

austere nova
odd python
scenic swan
austere nova
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@brave oriole what was your 25-60 lineup?

raw turret
#

Honestly, at that level it might be worth just resetting Belinda and putting Saveas at 160.

You could run something like

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Fawkes

@scenic swan

brave oriole
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@austere novagrezchamp

dusty elk
brave oriole
#

gb tower is hard 😭

austere nova
#

@brave oriole ... ty, but actually my main pt was able to beat the final boss in chap 25 😄

brave oriole
#

🧙‍♀️

opal dune
brave oriole
#

well, if you can sacrifice a slot, you can use nara

latent sandal
brave oriole
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or just use another lb mage, for faction buff, even if he will insta die

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but, @opal dune stop lvling your heroes, get Belinda 120 first, then you lvl the others to 100

opal dune
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@brave oriole what do you mean by sacrifice a lot ? Like diamond for resets ?

If i get faction buff i lose saveas my 2nd main carry

brave oriole
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you dont need 2 carry

opal dune
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I stoped, im just focusing on belinda rn, should i reset something ?

brave oriole
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I meant, to replace saveas, with a weak mirael for example

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so silvina won't attack your rowan

opal dune
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Oh ok, then to resume, i get 3 lb to 80, keep lucius 100 and bel 120 ?

brave oriole
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for now, and maybe find a way to put the horse girl on your Chrystal too, to go for full lb team

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estrilda rlly helps now

opal dune
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Even if she instant dies ?

brave oriole
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back of Lucius is the best place for her, so lucius won't die fast, will cast thensheidl and that is. fawk rowan estrilda backline

scenic swan
brave oriole
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@scenic swan if your bel is 160, should be front line at all

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my advice, is to lvl Lucius somehow to 140, and replace your shem for now with something useful

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when you will have more shem. copies from the lab, she will be your carry

opal dune
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Ok then will try that, thx

brave oriole
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@scenic swan so bel 160 and Lucius 140 front line, Backline mmmm, rowan middle fawk and the last one can be arden the new mauler hero, athalia and so on, by situation

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a Rosa would be good for bel, but i can't see any on your hero. list😭

scenic swan
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@brave oriole i wish i had a rosa. i always get her in the lab and they destroy everything in the way 😭

opal dune
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@brave oriole btw, is lyca good with my comp ? Just got her

brave oriole
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fill your whish list, like full 5 heroes each faction, else it won't work

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lyca is good sometimes on low lvl, when arden need to fast root or. to not. die by one hit

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she's more like endgame

twin briar
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@brave oriole I finally got it lol. Turns out I did need rosalind for the factional bonus, swapped some artifacts around to maximize def., and have some clutch debuffs on fawkes part

opal dune
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Oh i see, will let her stay as she is for now then 😁

brave oriole
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@twin briarimokbrutus

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the best way to get your heroes copies, fill your whish list full, do 10x pulls only

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and about whish list, not having it filled, means it won't work at all

placid flower
dusty elk
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So once I get ascended fereal

placid flower
#

Your lvl is much higher so could work for you now

inland oar
austere nova
latent sandal
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@brave oriole any advice on my recent post

velvet palm
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Would saveas be better than orthros?

violet igloo
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@velvet palm what do you mean? If you're early game Saveas is an amazing DPS :)

velvet palm
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Wait let me get a pic of my team first

burnt sleet
#

They really made 24-60 feel like a completely different power level for the boss.

velvet palm
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Should i replace my orthros with saveas?

pale kettle
violet igloo
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@velvet palm As a general tip, do not ascend heroes from E+ to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of the hero to ascend straight after to L+. If you haven't done it yet, I would highly suggest reading the guides pinned in #classic-questions

Ans yes you should use Saveas as your carry, he's really good up until chap 13

austere nova
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also, should it be his weapon or boots?

velvet palm
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Alright thanks

violet igloo
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@velvet palm put your Saveas to level 140 and others to 100

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@austere nova Ferael, weapon

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Unless you don't use him in campaign or arena

velvet palm
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Who should i set to level 100

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Belindas my main carry rn

violet igloo
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@velvet palm Saveas is stronger than Belinda in early game. You should set him to 140 and others to 100

Saveas
Lucius
Belinda
Orthos/wukong
Raine/tasi

velvet palm
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So i should remove my baden right

pale kettle
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@violet igloo help me after :)

violet igloo
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Yes lemme have a look :) 👌

velvet palm
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Alright lemme reset and ill show my team after it

violet igloo
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@pale kettle you have a really, really good comp, nice.

Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca/Arden/Rosaline.

Keep leveling Saveas to max.

pale kettle
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Thats my current lineup with lyca

velvet palm
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I should reset belinda until saveas gets to level 140 right

pale kettle
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So moving saveas up is the best decision rn for progress right?

violet igloo
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@velvet palm yes

velvet palm
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Ok so, why is saveas the best choice?

violet igloo
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@pale kettle yes, you need him 160. Can you put him 150 and others 120?

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@velvet palm he is one of the strongest DPS in early game, if not the strongest

pale kettle
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@violet igloo yeah just need dust. I bought the labyrinth dust progression pack tho!

violet igloo
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@pale kettle 💪 you have to be a bit patient

pale kettle
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@violet igloo yupp tysm

violet igloo
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@pale kettle keep buying Shemira at lab and if you can, invest in wilder packs

velvet palm
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Alright i have saveas at level 140 now

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uh yeah i can see why i should level up saveas now

violet igloo
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@velvet palm he's a beast 💪

velvet palm
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yep

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Who should i focus on leveling now?

lilac nebula
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13-40, can anyone help me, I've been stuck here for awhile.dont have the best options for mercenaries, and I think I may have messed up by ascending some to legendary too soon. Am I stuck waiting? Ty in advance for any advice!

obtuse wharf
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does the position of your team matters?
Example frontline having 2 tanks, 1 will get hit first then 2

does it apply the same as backlines too?

violet igloo
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@lilac nebula You need to use Shemira once you get Shemira to Mythic by buying her in Lab. Right now, put everything in Belinda, make her level 180. Try :

Belinda
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi/Nemora

limpid pumice
pale kettle
coral pier
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Replace Brutus with Nemora. She might charm arden which would work well for you. @pale kettle

olive moth
delicate jay
#

Where are all of your ascended heroes at?

limpid pumice
latent sandal
lilac nebula
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@violet igloo thanks for the suggestions I'm on it. Much appreciated!

brave oriole
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@limpid pumice you don't need to lvl more than 5 heroes, use the Chrystal to lvl others, you are wasting useful resources

harsh solstice
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Any advice on doing the Nemora Dreaf guild boss event?
I tried shemira, estrilda (M friend), Rosa, Rowan, Twins.

Got 14.5m but Twins and Rosa ended up dying at like 10 sec left. Gonna borrow a L twins mercenary to try with Lucius for belinda, but curious if anyone has other team comp suggestions

pale kettle
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Don’t even have any of your best heroes so I don’t think I can help sorry @harsh solstice

split sleet
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Can I get help with a lineup ? This is my current team and it’s doing pretty good. Just wanna see if there’s anything better for me atm

pale kettle
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Arden & Tasi & Nemora are really good heroes
Consider using 1 or 2 for some Crowd Control or healing ( not really a Maulers fan )

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Also you could try Antandra or Shemira

harsh solstice
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@split sleet general tip. Build saveas. By Shemira copies. Saveas will be your best carry atm. Shemira is the best mid game carry

woven lichen
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Hi all, I’d like to introduce a guide on team building which explores what to look for in a team and counters for common obstacles. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-ruqdBVEOLBi6p86lNQml4lJcK_2SqDIfFiDfTBPb8c

umbral badger
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@woven lichen Thank you for the article

woven lichen
umbral badger
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@woven lichen Thank you; I'll give that a go!

proper prawn
astral plank
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I’m stuck at 8-16, should I use E+ raine to make L Belinda?

tawdry condor
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guys who's better Kelthur or Gorvo

dark juniper
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@astral plank no never use ascendet tier hero’s

astral plank
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What should I do if I’m stuck though?

dark juniper
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@astral plank do other things like kings tower or peaks of time

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Be afk (farm) and try to lvl up your team

violet pawn
dark juniper
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@violet pawn It is possible i used the same team just try different formations

violet pawn
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What formation did you use?

limpid pumice
olive moth
ashen mantle
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It seems like no one reads the well made guides in "pinned messages" here and in #classic-questions channel, before asking away. There is so much usefull overall information there.
Also pls try a few different formations before asking here, you will learn alot more from your mistakes than other people telling you the solutions every time. :D

visual quiver
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@wind glade what chapter and stage is that? also, upgrading shem to 221 aka 240 could probably just brute force the win lol

ashen mantle
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@visual quiver think its c20~40-60

wind glade
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@visual quiver its 20-54 and i need 20k more purple essence to up shemira to 221(240)

ashen mantle
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Nightmare wilder teams, and c20 is full of them

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@wind glade find a way to not allow arden to root and try to kill ira before she ults. That is what is killing ur team :)

visual quiver
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I'd try, shem brutus front, arden nem lyca backline. nem needs to charm estrilda to disrupt her own team

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if arden really is the problem then maybe switch nem and arden positions so nem can charm estrilda while arden can root the enemy arden