lineup-help

[bronze veldt]

Should I try to level up Shem or the rest of the team? Or should I use a different team?

[subtle crow]

Should I replace any of my backline with Rowan or safiya? Heard they are pretty good.

[pale kettle]

Need line up for 24-18 pls

[analog summit]

Need lineup suggestion, should I replace lucius with brutus or use both of them?

[winter matrix]

@analog summit You can do

Saveas
Lucius
Lyca
Brutus
Belinda

[analog summit]

Ok should I put brutus in crystal or level him up and reset arden/tasi/nemora

[winter matrix]

@analog summit you can put him in crystal for now. Also only level up your top 5 heroes. So reset Ulric, Hogan, Arden and Mirael

[analog summit]

Is it worth using 20 gems on those level 10 heros?

[winter matrix]

Yes

[sweet crane]

Needing help

[winter matrix]

@sweet crane First off, stop making Legendaries. You're wasting all your fodder. For a comp I would use

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda/Brutus
Arden

[sweet crane]

First off, I was told to L Arden and shemira so dfk?

[winter matrix]

Dont ascend to L if you cant go to L+ Right away. I guess with Arde and Shemira its not a big deal as Arden iz a fodder unit and Shemira is available in lab store.

[sweet crane]

Then don't comment on it... It was not asked, if it was done I for sure questioned it

[nova elk]

Need help with who to reset to continue progression. Currently stuck on 7-8. Plz and ty.

[raw turret]

why estrilda tho

[winter matrix]

^^

[sweet crane]

Was my first L at the begging of the game wasn't even on this discord yet, when I joined was when I was schooled to not L

[raw turret]

The dude was tryna give you a general tip because your heroes looked wonky and u got defensive 😂😂😂

[sweet crane]

Well, I asked about my lineup, now Everytime I asked something someone has to tell me not to L?

[winter matrix]

I gave u a lineup and refreshed ur mind to not ascend to L

[sweet crane]

And the reason Rowan is on bot is because Kaz annihilates first front top and mid, Rosa glues to Lucius, what's been carrying me is infinite Lucius ults

Yeah I didn't mean to sound mean tho, it's just not related to what I asked

Anyway gonna try your lineup and give feedback

Didn't work, tried about 10 times, Lucius casted his shield once

[winter matrix]

Half this game is rng. In later game u will have to retry 250+ times to complete a lvl just because of rng

[sweet crane]

Yeah but right off the bat even with Lucius casting his shield and then the enemy just destroys me, my guess is that it won't work out

I gotta deal with Kaz that's why I had Brutus there, at least he can stall a little

[paper wadi]

need help pls

[winter matrix]

Switch Brutus and Lucius position

@paper wadi I think I used

Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

[paper wadi]

@winter matrix i haven‘t fawkes

[sweet crane]

Changed back to my normal lineup, changed my best gear to rosa and managed to get past, but thanks cwonk and sorry if I sounded mean

[winter matrix]

@paper wadi If u dont have fawkes u can use Tasi

@sweet crane Its alright, u didnt sound mean

[nova elk]

Cwonk any advice for me up there?

[winter matrix]

@nova elk Send a pic of your heroes and the stave you're stuck at

[nova elk]

Was more general team help with who the reset and then focus on

[winter matrix]

Alright. Only level your top 5. So reset the Estrilda, Saveas, Niru and Ankhira. For a team comp I'd use

Belinda
Lucius
Mirael
Wukong
Arden

If theres an enemy that can cc your team I suggest using Athalia on her. So she can cancel their cc.

Also for early game I suggest ascending Saveas to L+ as soon as possible, but dont fodder any A tier heroes. When Saveas is lvl 160 he is a really good carry

[shell heron]

Stuck

[winter matrix]

@shell heron All your heroes look good. Id use

Rosaline/Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes/Tasi

[shell heron]

Maybe just under level, I need Shemira 180 I think honestly, I die pretty fast

[lofty depot]

For that stage in particular it might also work with:

Nemora/Arden
Shem
Mehira
Lyca
Tasi
@shell heron

[winter matrix]

Yea get your Shem to 180 and all your L+ to 160 @shell heron

[shell heron]

😂 tagging yourself

[winter matrix]

Whoopsie

[shell heron]

None of them work, Shemira gets ult off but then dies straight away

[winter matrix]

Get your L+ heroes to 160

[shell heron]

Yeah Shemira to 180 first right

[winter matrix]

Yea

[granite ravine]

Saveas over numisu right?

[winter matrix]

Ofcourse

[granite ravine]

Nice just got legendary sav

[tall jolt]

I can level Belinda to M+, or Rosaline and Fawkes to M. Any advice on what I should do?

[still oar]

M+ Belinda and 200 her as carry @tall jolt. Keep the level advantage

[tall jolt]

Do I use Gwynth, or Fawks as Fodder?

[still oar]

None. Make proper fodder

[tall jolt]

Ok thanks.

[small acorn]

@shell heron have you tried the wilder trio with brutus/shem?

[shell heron]

Yeah, tired a few, even hypogeans

@small acorn

[small acorn]

@shell heron does tasi get off slumber?

[shell heron]

No, all the heroes die fast, I need to level more no doubt

[small acorn]

@shell heron brutus needs to be bot to tank IRA slow and you shem has to faaceroll KAZ with arden root support.

[short sonnet]

Hey any ideas ? :)

I also have L nemora and e+ agi light zealous girl

[small acorn]

@inland kite tough but i would try
Nem
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Shem

See if shem and brutus can kill arden b4 he ults. Otherwise see if you can work a combo to charm fereal so he haunts his own team.

@short sonnet need to charm fereal with nem for easy win. Use lyca so nem can charm quickly and this charm plus shem ult will be gg

[short sonnet]

Thanks !

[small acorn]

@short sonnet all fereal levels can be cheesed mostly if you charm him and he haunts his own team with his first haunt

[short sonnet]

So nem in front of ferael right in these levels

[small acorn]

@short sonnet nem middle back opposite fereal

@short sonnet she has highest chance to charm opposite hero, but it is still random, so may take a few tries

[short sonnet]

[inland kite]

that's not Arden

Tasi dies instantly past 6 times then lyca

Bout to leave it on multi and let it try 20+ times

Had to move shemira back up front

[swift cedar]

Hi guys, im at phase 22-44 and running this lineup right now. Any advice to make it more powerful with the heroes i have available?

[limpid quail]

@swift cedar i would take shemira front for faster energy gain from being attacked. personally not a big fan of estrilda so i would pick rosa behind shem

[gaunt shell]

Help😅

[sand kindle]

@ExOd 20-54#1117 just go regular meta, that should work

[subtle talon]

Hey together, can’t get higher. What can/should I switch? Is one 100 good or better rest 81? Ty

[swift cedar]

@limpid quail i’ll try it, thank you

[inland kite]

Now I'm faced with this

[pale kettle]

Could use a hand here. Much appreciated!

[errant minnow]

How tf do I beat this without a good eironn

[lofty depot]

Lyca against Athalia, Gorvo against Brutus, try that @errant minnow

[errant minnow]

Ok

Gorvo was jumping out of the way leaving the backline open, lyca wasn't dodging enough... Turns out I just needed to use my own L+ Kaz cos I can give her better gear than the M+ merced one

[analog summit]

Stuck at 6-27 any tips?

[lofty depot]

Remove Belinda for Nemora/Tasi also you only need to level 5 heroes so I would reset Lyca @analog summit

[analog summit]

Reset lyca and put her in crystal? Also who to level up

I tried removing belinda and putting in nemora/tasi but still can't beat this stage

[winter matrix]

Overlevel Saveas

[analog summit]

Can't do it yet he's only elite atm

[lofty depot]

@analog summit Yes. And overlevel Saveas when you can, for now just level the others evenly. When Arden hits 81 you can use him if needed

[twin robin]

2nd day playing

i read up a bit and seveas seems to be the go to guy

should i reset monkey and reinvest ? atm having a rough time on 5 20

also trying to figure out a wise way to spend those crystals at the tavern

[winter matrix]

U can only spend crystals by summoning, so summon heroes. Also to beat 5-20 u need all of your team to be lvl 61+

[mortal atlas]

help for new event

NEW EVENT TEAM COMP, NEED TO GET MORE THAN 12 BELLS

[twin robin]

@winter matrix thx

[mortal atlas]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568025210498842633/667051368715911187/unknown.png PLEASE HELP I NEED A TEAM FOR WRIZZ< SOREN AND THE NEW BOSS. ALSO A GENRAL TEAM MAY HELP

[short sonnet]

Heyyy any ideas ? I have L rowan too

[woven lichen]

@twin robin yes level saveas as the highest first so he can kill really fast. Should be able to get you further. Level carry 20-40 levels higher than anyone else and then do tank and support

@pale kettle Isabelle probably won’t do that much damage in comparison to Belinda since Belinda is over leveled so you want heroes to help Belinda... like Rowan, Rosa for more energy... or Nemora and Arden for some crowd control. Silvina will attack mages but then leave your backrow exposed... may want another tank

@short sonnet too many dps heroes in Safiya shemira and Belinda... they all require ulting... better to replace Belinda with Rosa and Safiya with Rowan...

Fawkes
-Brutus
Rowan
-shemira
Rosa

Boosts energy into shemira for more ults and more healing

[short sonnet]

Thanks a lot 🙂

[subtle talon]

My actually combo and now I got saveas e, who should I switch?

[winter matrix]

U should probably reset Brutus and lvl Saveas to 120. For comp use

Numisu
Lucius
Rosaline/Ezizh
Wukong
Saveas

[subtle talon]

That’s nice. Thought the same but wasn’t sure^^ and atm no Dias for resetting^^ ty 🙂

@winter matrix and also resetten wk and just to 61. saveas First Max Right?

[subtle crow]

Any chance of me passing this? I have three servers all stuck on this stage. Silvia just crushes my backline

[lofty depot]

@subtle crow level up more, get lucky or get Rowan/Nara! Your lineup already looks pretty good

[subtle crow]

@lofty depot thanks! Who should Rowan replace? On another server I have Rowan (but not lucious. Replaced by izoid)

[lofty depot]

Nemora or Arden, you want Silvina to attack Rowan @subtle crow

[subtle crow]

Ah. Cool. Thanks!

[sage dew]

i don't have anything else to use, do i just afk?

[plain kernel]

F2P Player here looking for advice on how to properly lineup my squad.

[lofty depot]

Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
Hogan
Arden

Use Arden when he is level 81. Until then maybe Wu-kong. For that stage specifically you can switch Hogan and Lucius.

Get Shem to 161 ASAP and then replace Saveas with her. @plain kernel

[fluid obsidian]

Any suggestions?

[lofty depot]

@fluid obsidian replace Talene with Lucius and put Tasi backline. Then you can try replacing Mehira with Rowan/Nemora/Arden.

If needed you can put Lyca front line if she survives long enough to protect Shem.

[elfin warren]

Would I be able to use Safiya, Belinda or Eiron in my team at all? Or just leave them?

[lofty depot]

@elfin warren Belinda and Eironn are campaign viable carries but right now based on your heroes focus on Saveas and buy Shem from lab until she is 161 and then use her instead. Keep buying her until she is A

[elfin warren]

ah okay, i can buy one of her right now, so i guess i just leave my team rn as it is, thanks!

[pale kettle]

What lineup with this

E+ : Hogan, Numisu, Estrilda
E: Lucius, Safiya, Saveas, Shemira, Vurk, Ira, Arden, Isabella

Also Wukong

[obtuse orchid]

is Tasi is the clear choice to make mythic here? from personal use she was always the most useful

[lofty depot]

@obtuse orchid out of those 3 yes

@pale kettle

Saveas
Hogan
Arden
Lucius
Wu-kong

[obtuse orchid]

thank you very much 🙌

[faint sinew]

Help

[elfin warren]

oh you probably shouldnt spread your levels

just focus on 5 characters

[faint sinew]

Ok

[raw flicker]

Any thoughts? Can't seem to crack this lvl

[subtle crow]

@raw flicker

Savaes
Brutus
Tasi
Lucious
Nemora

[raw flicker]

@subtle crow yeah that's my main formation but they're getting shredded here, Nemora and lucious both go down in first few seconds before either ults then all downhill from there lol

[quaint pollen]

Im stuck, idk what to choose against them

[coral pier]

Maybe try dropping all of your support heroes and putting in damage only

[gleaming flax]

20-52 help

[split peak]

@quaint pollen use fawkes to counter Lucius

[winter matrix]

I think I used

Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

In this situation I think Fawkes will coffin Saveas, which will make your Lucius live longer

[quaint pollen]

Thank you

[split peak]

@gleaming flax a lvl200 legy lucius is waste of space replace him

[gleaming flax]

With?

[pale kettle]

@gleaming flax you're running two DPS heroes

[pale kettle]

that Lucius is fine. @gleaming flax

[gleaming flax]

So should i use the line up from cwonk

[pale kettle]

no, you don't need two dps heroes

[gleaming flax]

Ok so what to use

[pale kettle]

replace bel with nemora and Athalia with Lyca @gleaming flax

[gleaming flax]

Ok

Didnt even scratch em

[pale kettle]

you need RNG with the Nemora charming Arden. instead of typing in the Discord, keep replaying @gleaming flax

[sand badger]

any fun team comp for an alt?

[split peak]

Na on ults u play whatever u get from card pulls lol

Btw can u guys tell me how good 240 Brutus is? I will get the last copy i need from the upcoming event

[gleaming flax]

20-60 Charme ardin

Or what do i do time ran out

[scarlet pebble]

Anything I can do for this fight beyond simply levelling? I figure there probably isn't but maybe I'm missing something 🤷‍♂️

[raw turret]

Is my only option to level up? :/

[nova elk]

Need help with who I should focus leveling uo/focusing on. Thanks!

[twin hound]

@nova elk wait until you have at least two E+ copies of a hero to decide, and buy shemira from lab shop

[topaz eagle]

25-48 anyone got a screenshot of completion?

[odd python]

@topaz eagle

[nova elk]

@twin hound got it. I probably won't have two E+ copies anytime soon. Who would you recommend to level to carry in the meantime (I'm at 7-8 right now)

[odd python]

belinda should do fine as a carry, thing is you shouldnt be leveling more than 5 heroes at a time outside of very specific circumstances, and leveling a tank like lucius over any potential carry is just a waste

[twin hound]

I agree, over level Belinda as carry

[topaz eagle]

Cheers @odd python Any screenshot of 25-48 that’s not a thoran cheese? I’m not re setting 100+ times for rng 😂 I cba

[odd python]

it was unintentional tbh i just used safiya as i normally do but she died and thoran clutched it lol

you can try similar with whatever carry you think works best in safiya spot

[topaz eagle]

I re tried 10 times and my thoran does max 9m damage I don’t have the patience for those stages I just want to brute force it with some lineup

[odd python]

i think the comp should work around your main carry, is what im saying, i wasnt trying for thoran cheese

i just dont have any other tank available lol

[topaz eagle]

Sadly my rowan and athalia is elite+ I cant copy that one

[odd python]

ah fair enough. athalia not too important tho cos across grez, but rowan is pretty helpful for carry

[fluid obsidian]

Currently using M Shemira in Chapter 14... don’t use Belinda much, but I do use Rowan constanly.. suggestions? Rush Belinda to A or Rowan to L+?

[green vigil]

Help with 16-40? Current lineup getting melted

[limber atlas]

Help

[warped tulip]

What do you guys think would be my best line up here?

[violet igloo]

@warped tulip Saveas is an amazing DPS. Try

Saveas
Hogan
Rowan
Wukong
Rosa

Saveas needs to be overleveled by 20/30 levels compared to other heroes

[pale kettle]

guys help

[brittle summit]

In need of help on 24-52

[earnest mason]

Next character to focus with my comp? Lucius-brutus-shemira-rose-and fawkes.

Food for thought

[pale kettle]

E+: Hogan, Numisu, Estrilda, Ira
E: Wukong, Lucius, Saveas, Vurk, Arden, Thoran, Shemira, Isabella, Izold, Safiya
R+: Silvina, Niru

I am stuck at 6-24, KT Floor 77

[zinc stump]

@pale kettle screenshots are more helpful for us to give advice

[green saddle]

Hello. Help a beginner if you can. I am stuck for the first time playing and wanna help to find my best Campaign team possible out here and learn through discussion. Other 2 questions: Is Saveas E+ worthy using? The most important as it can harm my future: should I sacrifice my only Silvina to make Vedan an Epic ?

[modest badge]

Bros, Lineup to focus on and Formation?

[zinc stump]

@modest badge check the guides in #classic-questions @green saddle

[modest badge]

safiya, orthos, or belinda

[zinc stump]

@pale kettle try some levels in saveas and try run him with Luc arden numisu and wu kong since those are leveled and you get the 3 fac bonus

[pale kettle]

I can reset all heroes too just to pass this hardstuck mode

[modest badge]

This good?
Athalia
Wu Kong
Shemira
Orthros
Nara

@zinc stump

[zinc stump]

@modest badge Shem underperforms at the level you're at. Saveas is a much better option I'd also put nem instead of nara

[modest badge]

gotcha

[craggy sparrow]

Any suggestions??

[honest cave]

Just wondering if I can do better with what ive got, im about to get stuck at this rate

[tulip cairn]

Stuck on 14-39 any help would be greatly appreciated

[woven lichen]

@honest cave can try adding some crowd control by including Arden or Mirael for some shielding and an aoe ult

[craggy sparrow]

@sleek pivot change athalia and nemora

[sleek pivot]

to what

[wheat tiger]

Switch them. Athalia attacks who's across with her. Which is super helpful.

[craggy sparrow]

Change their places

So athalia will attack Arden

[naive kite]

Should I use my 10 faction scrolls on grave born to try get shamira? Gona use her at 161 just trying to plan ahead. Will probably use Lucious as well but not sure if I should be trying to get other faction heroes. Just started chapter 11

[wheat tiger]

Should I sacrifice my Hogan L+ to make my Belinda Mythic?

Another way to get Shemira is Labyrinth. If it was me I'd use the faction scrolls to get another Lucius.

[honest cave]

@woven lichen. Who should i take out an who should i put in

[twin hound]

Suggestions for arena defense?

[honest cave]

Id probably put in mirael since she is closer to being able to be ascended to L+ than arden

[woven lichen]

@honest cave I would try removing wu Kong since already two tanks with golus and skreg... Safiya is doing damage... potentially could replace numisu if not healing or dealing enough damage

[honest cave]

Numisu is doing fine, ill take out wu kong and see how it goes with mira

[pale kettle]

need a few more diamonds for a pull and reward 🙏 i try to use nara on one of the arden but nemora charms still ruining me and idk what i can do to counter this

[ripe beacon]

@pale kettle use lyca and nemora vs the enemy nemora

The chain charm should work

[pale kettle]

alright i'll try thank

[tulip cairn]

Haalllpp cold_face:

[pale kettle]

yeah that doesnt work at all my nemora always gets cced by something first

i even got it to where she goes first but best bet is her charming arden she never goes for the other nemora >:( and i replaced nara with rosa on other side and im trying to get shemira to double ult and but nothings really working out

[woven lichen]

@sleek pivot you can try using Eironn to pull Silvina off your mages

Nemora
-grezhul
Eironn
-Mirael
Hogan

Or use Rosa as bait... put tanks along the path Rosa follow

If you have nara, she works too

[gleaming nacelle]

Help please

[pale kettle]

Just patience or? Any changes?

[gleaming nacelle]

Anyone help me out above

I'm on 22-44

[woven lichen]

@tulip cairn try estrilda or Rosa instead of mehira to ult faster. Fawkes, tasi, Nemora, or Arden might be useful for crowd control instead of using Belinda

@gleaming nacelle
Nemora
-Brutus
Lyca
-shemira
Tasi

Or maybe

Fawkes
-Lucius
Rowan/Rosa
-shemira
Rosa/Rowan

@pale kettle probably patience but can try Mirael instead of Nemora

[gleaming nacelle]

Neither of those work @woven lichen

Lyca instantly dies and same with rowan

Anyone else have some ideas

[woven lichen]

@gleaming nacelle

[gleaming nacelle]

Ok I'll get a lend

[pale kettle]

@woven lichen check above 🙂

[lilac nebula]

Evening all, I've been stuck for a few days on 13-24. I think due to the comp I'm running, everything dies too quickly for my belinda to have a chance work brutus to down then before mirael burns us with her ultra. I've heard saveas is a good carry but I'm struggling with the idea of using him as fodder for brutus to get him to mythic. Any suggestions would be amazing, ty guys!

Heres the team I'm using currently.

[woven lichen]

@lilac nebula the biggest threats are on bottom so you want saveas or Belinda at bottom... Talene could be in front

[lilac nebula]

Awesome let me give that a shot ty

[woven lichen]

@lilac nebula as another note... if you are dying too fast still... try adding some crowd control... pick Belinda or saveas as main carry and then add fawkes/tasi to coffin/banish Mirael or Belinda... could also try arden to root or Nemora to charm them. Nara is another option too

[lilac nebula]

It worked on the third go around that's so awesome! So generally will my carry be on the bottom, or generally across from the biggest threats? Never thought of putting sav on bottom, glad I didnt fodder him to brutus.

[woven lichen]

@lilac nebula generally try to put your carries or crowd control on side with biggest threats to take care of them first. Saveas is great for awhile after all heroes at L160 since can be used in mauler tower too... but yeah eventually he is fine to fodder to Brutus or etc

[round cedar]

Any tips please dm or @ me

[lilac nebula]

Theoretically if I were to fodder him, is there a good hero I have from above I can plug and play and not lose too much?

[woven lichen]

@lilac nebula you could maybe try antandra, khasos, Khazard (this is a fun one to use)... need a dps replacement

[lilac nebula]

Cool ty again for your time really appreciate it

[woven lichen]

@round cedar not enough fodder to ascend anyone except estrilda but best to wait until you have an elite+ copy so you can go to L+

[round cedar]

@woven lichen ok back to the waiting game 😢 lol

[sonic nebula]

Should I just wait for levels? What’s my best lineup?

[umbral adder]

15-37, i'm not sure how to stall further to get shemira to live longer, currently she can only cast one ult before everyone else dies and she gets focused

the ferael is being stupidly annoying as well and no one can get their ults off, the fawkes coffins the belinda

[main dragon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/667232822104424450/Screenshot_20200115-220334.png?width=406&height=722
Could use some help team building. Do I ascend my 20 Hogan or reset him and use the purple one? And what about Brutus?

[honest cave]

Could use some help with getting a better lineup

[woven lichen]

@sonic nebula depends on the stage but can try something like

Rowan
-estrilda/Lucius
Mirael
-Lucius/estrilda
Rosa
(Focus is on getting Mirael to ult with Rosa and Rowan... estrilda adds energy and attack too)

Add Brutus or Arden/fawkes based upon if you might need more tanking or crowd control

@umbral adder try Rosa instead of Brutus/Lucius so you get double ults.

Otherwise you may need to add Nemora or Arden for some crowd control. Nemora charming Ferael into scaring his own team can help a lot

[umbral adder]

rosaline dies too fast to grezhul's lackeys

on top she dies to something else

[woven lichen]

@main dragon you can always ascend to rare+. No reason to keep as rare. Yes reset the current one for the purple version since better stats... can use Brutus or Hogan... up to you.. from Brutus, Hogan, Wu kong, and estrilda... pick two as your tanks

@umbral adder
Rosa
-shemira
Rowan
-Brutus
Fawkes
(I don’t seem much danger from top of map)

[umbral adder]

mrm, the rosaline is dying to something can't quite tell what, her being only elite is hurting

[woven lichen]

@umbral adder are you able to kill anyone? If so, try raine instead of Rosa

[umbral adder]

can't kill anyone, she's dying to fareal spirits

raine worked

she didn't actually get her ult off but it worked out somehow?

[woven lichen]

@umbral adder nice work 😆

[main dragon]

@woven lichen Rare is blue? So I can take all my 3 (or more) of blues up to Rare+?

[woven lichen]

@main dragon yes. The beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions are a good resource for ascension tips too

[main dragon]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l_WsysnGTje5Q1StOJUYkSWn-yHAUUB4QrM3CMizDsw/edit#
This is the one I found

[woven lichen]

@main dragon read this one.. good beginner tips and has a section on ascension https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKYFCAJMSAtMaIZI5UPARmcKA9-3_gIzrO-b2g2mEKA/edit?usp=sharing

[main dragon]

Thanks, will do

[umbral adder]

i hate graveborn

this team survives the longest until the opposite shemira ults and everything dies

the fawkes grabs the farael for once

lucius gets nuked regardless of top/bottom and rosaline doesn't survive for long again

okay nvm same comp as earlier worked

[main dragon]

Okay, cleaned up and new team. Who do I level next, Saveas still?

[woven lichen]

@main dragon if possible yes... saveas actually becomes better from L61-160.... but if need be, you can level tanks a bit so saveas has time to kill. Usually want to level carry, tank, and then support

[main dragon]

Don't really have a support yet, but will do, thanks

[mystic sable]

Trying to clear a tank+heals lab floor. Any team suggestions?

My Normal team is (F) Lucius + Shemira (B) Fawkes + Belinda + Lyca

Enemy team is (F) Brutus + Lucius (B) Tasi Belinda Rosaline

[still oar]

Are you full energy and what are the relics?

[mystic sable]

Dead (timer killed me, need to use a tear). Relics are mostly defensive (RIP), nothing stand-out. Only hero specific relic is Khasos

[wise ermine]

Stuck on 6-39. Any tips or do I just have to wait a while for more XP?

[still oar]

If you are willing to use tear. Try
Shem

Luc
Mehira
Fawkes
Tasi.
Maybe auto will work if not try time your ult. First luc Shem tasi. When they wake up mehira. Use fawkes to dispell either shield or brutus immnity. You can also try Raine instead of mehira so in the beginning Shem Raine and tasi ult
Tell me how it goes @mystic sable.

[pale kettle]

20-52, trying to beat chapter before i sleep 🙏 tried using a lot of cc but doesnt help, either side shemira dies pretty quick and i have no other tank that would even do any work here i dont think

[mystic sable]

Will do! TY

[hexed shuttle]

Hmm.. what can I change in my lineup

[still oar]

Maybe
Arden

Shem
Rosa
Brutus
Lyca
Bet on double ults @pale kettle

[mystic sable]

nope, still timed out. guess that's this lab v.v timeouts being instafail is by far my least favorite mechanic 😕 at least an enrage or something to force and end would feel fair

[pale kettle]

alright will try ty ty

[forest carbon]

@mystic sable why are you letting it time out? You should cancel the fight when you know you're losing

[mystic sable]

@forest carbon that's an option? O.o really?

[pale kettle]

is there a way to get kaz off shemira she doesnt give me a chance even with arden and its making me sad, shem gets ult off but rosa doesnt have time to get hers before shem dies

[still oar]

I would try probably try
Rosa

Shem (Belinda)
Rowan
Luc
And Maybe nemora
Tasi might be better in nemora place. Your team might be good against weaker enemies without CC. A decent CC team can overcome you without difficulty @hexed shuttle

[forest carbon]

@mystic sable yes just exit or retry the stage

[still oar]

Root her along with Arden first @pale kettle. That's one of the easier way

[pale kettle]

yeah shes getting rooted but she ults before rosa

[still oar]

What are artifacts arrangements
@pale kettle

[pale kettle]

yeah i changed it and beat it, i put the one that gives energy every second to rosa

im going to bed now lol f trying to finish this chapter its 2am :')

[still oar]

👍

[raw turret]

im getting WIPED... am i too weak?

[winter matrix]

Try this

Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline/Belinda

[next basin]

hi guys, is team made of ferael athalia lucius rowan and estrilda good for late/end game? really want to use ferael athalia and lucius

[winter matrix]

Good at late game yes

[raw turret]

Thanks! @winter matrix
Unfortunately Lucius kept instadying so I went with the same comp but reversed my frontline and after like 40 tries it worked LOL

[pale kettle]

Guys im very new to the game and i need a pve and pvp lineup. (I am a spender and probably will be a high one too soo any tips on spending for my lineup would help too thanks!) Just @ me please

[raw turret]

Wilders RNG will never let me down 😳

[winter matrix]

@pale kettle If u plan on spending, the first thing I would buy is Advancement rewards. For a lineup I would use

Numisu
Brutus
Rowan
Wukong
Thane

You should start building Saveas, and overlevel her. She is a carry at lvl 160 and carries u to ch 14. After that she will be replaced with Shemira. Shemira shines after lvl 161+

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix Legend tysm!

@winter matrix also, how should I be spending my gems?

[winter matrix]

Spend them in the Tavern by doing 10x summons. After u beat 15-40 u can start spending them on stargazer but thats not recommended

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix okay thanks again!

@winter matrix wait saveas is a girl?

Im very confusion 🤣

[winter matrix]

Until 10 minutes ago I thought Saveas was a girl. No. Hes a man

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix yeah i thought so i actually was tripping that a women sounded like that

[pale kettle]

Iam now stuck for 3th day at 5-32

[winter matrix]

Being stuck is a part of the game

[pale kettle]

Ik but what do i do if my luck is terrible and i dont have any good gear

[winter matrix]

Send ss of heroes

[lament birch]

Have every relic to distribute and also could ask for mercenary

[winter matrix]

This is stuff some people used

[mortal atlas]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622490787908812820/667302174316822528/unknown.png PLEASE HELP

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622490787908812820/667302257695653928/unknown.png

[still oar]

Try
Rosa

Shem
Rowan
Luc
Tasi @mortal atlas

[pale kettle]

Hey guys! Any help for a Wrizz-Soren lineup?
I use Shem-Lucius-Rosa-Rowan-Lorsan and barely hit 100m on Wrizz and cant get past 45m on Soren

[mortal atlas]

@still oar didn't work, tried 3 times

[limpid quail]

@pale kettle for wrizz try belinda for lorsan, for soren you can try baden instead of lorsan

[still oar]

How it went? And what's the artifacts arrangement @mortal atlas

[pale kettle]

@limpid quail Belinda will make such difference instead of lorsans 160%dmg?

[limpid quail]

she has faction bonus for damage and gives blessing. its worth a try, you dont have to finish the fight when you see its not enough

[mortal atlas]

Shem - Dura's blade , Lucius - Drape, Tasi- Call, Rowan- Grace , Rosa eye. It went really bad, most times silvina kills rosa, Vurk descimates shem. This leaves lucy, tasi and rowan but without dps they die. @still oar I have only these artifacts

[pale kettle]

And what should be the relic arrengement? I have all of them

[limpid quail]

rowan-call, shem-blade, belinda-eye, lucius- drape, rosa-chalice

[still oar]

Oh ic. Can luc lives longer taking vurk bolt? Can Rowan tank silvina better? Who does tasi banish? Vurk or brutus? @mortal atlas?
We can try
Luc

Lyca
Rowan(call)
Shem
Tasi(eye)
With enough haste from lyca luc maybe can interupt silv

[mortal atlas]

Rowan dies just as fast from silvina, tasi does not banish (glitch with lilith), Shemira is better at tanking vurk. Tried with new team, results were bad again. The haste was ineffective at silvina who immediately kills woan. Brutus ults shemira and lyca does in first 5 seconds. Lucius and tasi left. @still oar

[still oar]

🤔

[mortal atlas]

been stuck a week , IT's realy hard. Used mercenaries to clear 19-36. Will now get ascended lyca on sunday

[still oar]

Last resort can you make your Shem 201+?

[mortal atlas]

No, need 5k dust more. I have 25k.

[still oar]

Okay let's try another one.
Rowan

Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
I forgot about vurk's bolt. With this Rowan should be able to tank silvina's 1st jump with his skills and hope lives long enough to ult so he can stun silvina.
What I am not sure is whether to try tasi in the middle and nemora bottom to charm brutus or Belinda or not

[zealous flower]

Anyone can help?

[winter matrix]

This is way out of my league

[graceful pendant]

Any help would be appreciated 😦

[pale kettle]

Need help with my lineup since i have some new heroes now. Much appreciated

[winter matrix]

U got pretty good heroes. I'd use

Numisu
Wukong
Rowan
Brutus
Thane

U only need 1 more Rowan for L+ which is very good. You can reset Numisu and lvl up Gwyneth, to raise ur lvl cap to 120

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix okay as always thanks again!

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle also it's interesting that you have opened 0 copies of Saveas. He's a rare blue hero so easy to get. You'll eventually open copies of him and when you have him E+ I would recommend using him, he's an excellent DPS early game (until chap 13 approximately). And you have Brutus that goes really well with Saveas. Use the comp above for now, but I would use Saveas once you get him, he's a beast early game 🙂

[pale kettle]

@violet igloo is that the wolf?

[graceful pendant]

lol yep

[pale kettle]

Because if it is i just accidebtally fed it away

[winter matrix]

Saveas is the Mauler guy with the spear

[pale kettle]

It was a total accident smh

[graceful pendant]

@pale kettle your find alot more 🙂

[winter matrix]

Dont feed Saveas. Get him to lvl 160 and he will carry you to ch14

[pale kettle]

Alright no problem tysm im alrrady having trouble at ch5-6 soo ill make sure ill save him

[winter matrix]

If you're having trouble in early game, all u have to do is go afk and lvl your heroes up

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle don't worry, it's not a big mistake. You'll open plenty of him

[winter matrix]

^

[pale kettle]

Yup tysm. Also, is gyweneth>numisu? Is that why you want me to regress numisu?

[winter matrix]

Reset Numisu because Gwyneth is a higher ascencion than him. Numisus max lvl is 100 and Gwyneths max is 120

[pale kettle]

Ohhh alright thanks!

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle I'd say numisu is a bit better, it's hard to say. Gwyneth isn't a really good hero early game, she's only used in late game niche comps. But to get higher levels Numisu needs to be reset

[pale kettle]

Alright thanks for all the help @violet igloo @winter matrix

[graceful pendant]

@pale kettle Start buying them Shemira's from Labyrinth 😄

[violet igloo]

👍 don't hesitate to come back here to ask more questions

[modern whale]

Hey, do you know what's the needed hero to have in your team in the frozen pass event ?

[pale kettle]

@graceful pendant pretty expensive for me rn but is that all i buy from labyrinth?

[winter matrix]

@modern whale Probably Baden, Rowan, Lucius, Rosaline ,Shemira

[bronze kraken]

Tasi or nemora to legend first for my wilders?

[modern whale]

@winter matrix I mean, one hero is needed to unlock a secret path

[winter matrix]

@modern whale wait rly? I've heard its Vurk

@bronze kraken Dont ascend to L unless u can ascend to L+. I guess u can ascend Nemora because shes easily available in the lab store

[modern whale]

@winter matrix yes aha, sadly I can't try with Vurk I don't have it

[winter matrix]

Mine is only E+

[bronze kraken]

I thought L was better then Epic+?

[fringe mural]

Ive been stuck for like 2 days now any tips?

[winter matrix]

Yea but if u ascend to L u can get stuck on L because u wont get the E+ copy of the needed hero, to ascend to L+

[bronze kraken]

What do you mean you don’t get the E+? The game stops giving you E copies of L heroes?

[winter matrix]

No. To ascend from L to L+ u need an E+ copy of the hero u want to ascend to L+. Theres a chance u dont get that E+ copy for a long time

@fringe mural You can raise your crystal lvl to 120 by reseting Brutus and Skreg and putting them in the crystal. Then lvl up 2 E+ heroes to 120.

[bronze kraken]

I get that. But is E+ better then L? I guess I’m having a hard time understanding why you would stay at E+ rather then L....

[fringe mural]

I never realised that dammnnnn thanks hahahahaha

[winter matrix]

L is technically better than E+ but if u use fodder to ascend to L, u can be stuck on L for a long time. That will waste your fodder, and u wont be able to ascend to L+ if u dont get an E+ copy of the same hero

[graceful pendant]

@pale kettle I advice her for Carrying a team yes, Nemora is also brilliant but Shemira is amazing, still using her at my level.

[pale kettle]

@graceful pendant

[graceful pendant]

@pale kettle holy poo poo?

[pale kettle]

Do i need to change my lineup again?

[graceful pendant]

@pale kettle Gz, my favourite hero in the game for every reason!

[winter matrix]

U can use Athalia on heroes that cc your team, like Arden, Nemora, Fawkes, Tasi. So Athalia is a situational hero

[pale kettle]

Ohh okay. Everyones telling me shes super rare

[graceful pendant]

@pale kettle At your level I advice levelling your highest.... and buy Shemira when you can

[winter matrix]

She is rare indeed. But very situational

[graceful pendant]

she will become very useful especially at 161+ she turns into a beast.

[pale kettle]

Yup ill be working on shemira. Also, i wont touch athalia atm im low on resources

[upbeat moat]

Hey guys please keep this for lineup help only

[graceful pendant]

@pale kettle She is rare, but can be purchased through the Challenger Store... which you will unlock

[upbeat moat]

If you have general questions about heroes and stuff, discuss in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

@graceful pendant OH alright ty @upbeat moat im asking about if i should put athalia in my lineup

[graceful pendant]

@upbeat moat Sorry got carried away 😦

[coarse hamlet]

Where should i spend my faction scrolls?

[winter matrix]

You're pretty mid game. I'd say use them for LB

[coarse hamlet]

Should i focus on gwyneth or shemira?

[winter matrix]

Shemira only becomes useful after lvl 161+, so for now get Gwyneth to 160. Also if u have questions, go to the #classic-questions channel. This channel is for helping with team compositions

[graceful pendant]

Shemira.... personally

[coarse hamlet]

Lightbearers faction it is then?

[winter matrix]

Yes

[coarse hamlet]

Roger that, thx for the help

[ripe garnet]

Help on 16-36 plz

[slender ferry]

Lab 3 struggling to win this level

[winter matrix]

@ripe garnet I would do something like

Fawkes/Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline

[ripe garnet]

@winter matrix can't seem to do it.

[limpid quail]

@ripe garnet how does brutus perfom in place of lucius? does he give you some more time?

[ripe garnet]

@cwonk#9056 @Fultsch#6786 just got pass it swapping Lucius with the lent lucius

[winter matrix]

Good

[limpid quail]

@slender ferry lyca for mehira to counter the enemy haste could do something. otherwise try to focus on killing 1-2 and use duras tear to finish it

[lament fox]

whats the best line up in your opinion?

[limpid quail]

@lament fox push saveas to 120 and build an arden. lineup example
nemora
saveas
arden
wukong
numisu/eironn/anyone you like

[lament fox]

hmm oo thx

[ripe garnet]

16-40 I'm getting stunned by arden all the time

[rich narwhal]

May someone help me with the lineup?

[limpid quail]

@ripe garnet dont put your arden opposite of nemora, he will root his own team when charmed. shemira front and hendrik out for rosa or rowan
lyca
lucius/brutus
arden
shemira
tasi

[winter matrix]

Numisu
Wukong
Tasi
Lucius
Rosaline

Is what I would go with

[rich narwhal]

@winter matrix that was for me right?

[winter matrix]

Yes

[ripe garnet]

@limpid quail thanks giving it a go now

[rich narwhal]

K that's what I am doing right now.

[winter matrix]

If it isnt working just go afk and lvl up your heroes

[rich narwhal]

Thank you

When I get saveas to e+ for whom would you put him in?

Numisu?

[winter matrix]

I'd switch him with Rosaline

[limpid quail]

I'd say numisu 😄

[winter matrix]

Whatever works

[limpid quail]

just play around with it and see what works best

[rich narwhal]

Kk thanks guys :)

[pale kettle]

Should I just reset or do you guys think I've got a chance?

[winter matrix]

This PoT with your heroes is very hard/ impossible. I almost have the same heroes as you. I guess u could reset and try getting Icebringer

[pale kettle]

@winter matrix that sucks I guess I'll wait until I can ascend shemira, and nara again. Hopefully that'll help

[scenic swan]

any help with the fight in the lab

[mortal atlas]

@scenic swan RUn henfrick eironn lyca rowan safiya

[woven lichen]

@inland kite does shemira reach ulting? Who is banished and is the problem that the enemy still survives after an ult?

[inland kite]

Shemira does not, thane gets banished and shemira gets banished @woven lichen

I survive a little better with lucius in place of brutus but not by much

Enemy thane kills shemira every time before she gets ult off, that or he kills tasi

[woven lichen]

@inland kite Can you move Brutus to bottom then? Top seems less dangerous for shemira to reappear at

[inland kite]

Yeah no it's not working

Brutus dies right away and shemira dies last but never gets an ult off

Shemira move to bottom gets banished, survives better but still dead overall and no ult

Enemy tasi keeps shemira banishes whole time

It's not working with brutus there, lucius gets ult off twice before shemira once

Shemira got ult off but she still died right after

[vocal hare]

Any advice?

[winter matrix]

Only lvl up your top 5 heroes. For now its just a matter of time, u just have to lvl up your heroes to 81

[narrow linden]

any ways I can switch up my team to get better performance?

[proven needle]

Any way I can line up my heroes better?

[winter matrix]

@proven needle Try

Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Eironn/Fawkes/Tasi

[woven lichen]

@inland kite could try with Lucius fawkes Rowan and Rosa... Fawkes would cancel the banishment... and hopefully Rowan heals them long enough for ult... Rowan and Rosa maybe allow multiple shemira ults

@narrow linden usually don’t need fawkes and tasi... can try Nemora tasi lyca.... or Rowan Rosa fawkes for support... hopefully shemira can tank in front. Otherwise Lucius or Brutus

[pale kettle]

Really need help with this one 5 star cards on the line 125 Gb tower

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle your shemira is fine but rest of the team not very beefy. There isn't really a better comp right now, you just need a couple of retries to make it work, Ferael needs to keep fearing ennemy team 🤔

[steel reef]

Lab 3 final, too much heal and burst from no where.

My units

Any formation I can use to give me a chance to clear this?

[winter matrix]

U can try

Saveas
Khasos
Hendrik
Brutus
Nemora

Nemora could charm the enemy Shemira, which when she is charmed and her ult is active, she deletes her own team

[violet igloo]

@steel reef Try
Shemira
Hendrik
Nemora
Tasi
Arden

You're going to have to be a bit lucky and Arden root ennemies and Nemora charm the Shemira. It's going to take you some retries. Also use Dura's tears if you can. Also another tip : Before using Dura tears - Put trash heroes so that ennemy team use their ults, so that When you start the fight with your real heroes ennemies won't ult immediatly

[steel reef]

Okay I'll try both, ty!

[late gyro]

Help

[bronze kraken]

What’s the dream team of Soren and Whizz?

[violet igloo]

@late gyro
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Shemira

have u tried that ? Also Arden needs to be lvl 141 to be used (roots 3 ennemies)

[pale kettle]

Help

[late gyro]

@violet igloo Ill try, thanks. Im waiting for dust to level last 2 to 141 😦 but feels like i get like 30 dust a day only

[violet igloo]

@bronze kraken probably belinda rowan rosa twins lorsan all ascended full gear high level

[late gyro]

Lucius so goddamn squishy.. 1 axe from khasos and hes dead

[winter matrix]

Swicth formation of Brutus and Lucius if he dies so quickly

[late gyro]

Same results, think this stage is impossible with my current heroes and levels, khasos and saveas just destroys me

nevermind got it completed

[winter matrix]

👍

[tranquil tendon]

Sometimes you have to try a few times. I've had instances where I've tried 10 times and got crushed. Then came back an hour later, no changes and crushed it my first try.

[winter matrix]

Well I had to try 21-37 150+ times sooo....

[inland kite]

Another tip with these is you can download quick touch automatic clicker and set multi touch

Then leave it running on one formation for awhile

[pallid pecan]

Any changes on the lineup?

[pale kettle]

@pallid pecan Shemira doesn't shine until she's 161. a better DPS hero at your stage would be Saveas or Belinda. and by the looks of it, you are able to break level cap, so idk why you're not doing it.

[brazen drum]

You can switch one of the support to Saveas. He will carry you till mid-game

[inland kite]

I was. like 3 seconds from winng @woven lichen lol your formation did help

[pale kettle]

Anyone able to offer any advice on mine above ^? Thanks

[winter matrix]

You just need to lvl up / ascend your heroes to M

[inland kite]

Weird but for some reason rosaline gives lucius her ult... is that gear wise?

[brazen drum]

@pale kettle You can try Brutus and Lucius upfront and on the backline Belinda, Rowan and Shemira

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle who does Sil jump to?

[woven lichen]

@pale kettle you are levels capped so could try fawkes instead of tasi for bigger faction bonus... or maybe even Khazard at bottom with Rosa top so Khazard can freeze bottom

[pale kettle]

@brazen drum it's generally not ideal to run two DPS heroes.

[woven lichen]

@inland kite Rosa follows based upon overall strength so might be gear if he is same level as your carry

[winter matrix]

@inland kite Might be because Lucius is higher level / ascencion than the hero u want Rosaline to follow

[inland kite]

They're both the same cwonk. It's exactly what aesyr said

Switched the gear off onto brutus who's not on the formation and she went back to shemira

But yours is the case on my alt though

I'm gonna run an auto clicker when I get home anyway so

[pale kettle]

Silv normally jumps to rowan @pale kettle

I’ll try both of your suggestions! Thanks guys! @woven lichen @brazen drum

[brazen drum]

@pale kettle just switch tasi with belinda or Fawks. No need for Brutus

@pale kettle See what works best. There's a lot of experimenting with teams in this game

[shy shale]

Team synergy is amazing

[raw turret]

shouldnt lorsan be in the center for the bigg succ

[winter matrix]

U mean Eironn

[raw turret]

yeah eironn** LOL

[topaz eagle]

Anyone got a completion of this I can’t kill skreg? Best I had was skreg vs nara and his knock up just ruins her

[teal hinge]

Any ideas??

[grave hollow]

Help me plz

[modest dove]

any advice to pass this stage?merc chance used up already..

[violet igloo]

Ascend Thoran to M then get his SI 😅

[tranquil tendon]

2nd account. Looking for suggestions. Who should I use as a carry? Should have gotten Shemira with my first Lab but got Nemora instead. Thinking use Belinda until I get Shem?

[violet igloo]

@tranquil tendon wait until you get Saveas and use him as carry until chap 13

[modest dove]

lols @violet igloo yeps,i’m working on it..just need another elite+ feeder and i’m good to go 😅

[tranquil tendon]

Thanks @violet igloo

[pale kettle]

What team should I do for this early stage

[odd python]

@modest dove swap nara and ferael

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle
Saveas
Golus
Nemora
Wukong
Numisu

Put Saveas to level 100 and other level 80. Saveas is your DPS carry

[pale kettle]

Bruh
Is Saveas that strong?
Also my golus is dead meat. Ngl

[sage dew]

@pale kettle yes

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle Saveas is one the strongest and most consistent DPS heroes until chap 13

[pale kettle]

Golus is the problem for me tho, he got kill in 2 second and didn’t do anything
So it’s like a 4 v 5

[violet igloo]

He is a mega beast that throws logs at ennemies. If Golus dies try swapping around heroes. Swap position with wukong.

Saveas has to be level 100 for it to work, you need to reset wukong

[sage dew]

you gotta overlevel Saveas, then ur good

[pale kettle]

Who is the 2 other one I need to go for 81
Cause I have enough

[violet igloo]

Nemora and Golus/Wukong. Probs golus

[pale kettle]

Why does so many people like Golus lmao

[violet igloo]

And once you get Brutus, replace Golus with Brutus and then you'll be 💪

You don't have many tanks and also putting Golus enables you faction bonus (top left corner)

[pale kettle]

Ah I see

[subtle crow]

Before I got enough heroes to ascend these, who should I focus on?

Currently I have

Savaes
Luscious
Arden
Wukong
Nemora

But many are level capped.

[ripe garnet]

Need help on 16-40 thanks

[odd sierra]

Some advice please been stuck like for a week

[brave oriole]

well, lvl down Lucius and up Belinda to 160,should make a huge diff

[last wharf]

Anyone know anything that would work?

[glossy pagoda]

@last wharf
How about:
Tasi
Izold
Wukong
Saveas
Nara?
This provides a teambonus and stops safiya from buffing her team

[last wharf]

Thanks

[umbral wraith]

Any thoughts on a better line up? (usually use Shem and Rosa switched)

[pale kettle]

trying to beat chap 20 today, what should i be trying

[glossy pagoda]

@pale kettle
Vurk
Shemira
Ferael
Brutus
Nara
Is worth a try, a team with 220vurk and 220 brutus could also be good here

[pale kettle]

Any ideas? Am i just heavily under leveled?

18-32

[glossy pagoda]

Try
Fawkes(with call, if tasi banishes the same target as him)
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi

[pale kettle]

@glossy pagoda already tried that setup, shemira dies way too quick on that side, i've been trying lyca rosa arden and brutus shemira frontline and so far that has got me the farthest but i cant get rosa and shemira to both ult even moving around some artifacts

[glossy pagoda]

Can you afford the resets for vurk and brutus? Currently im close to completing chapter 21 with a 220/217/200/185/185 team, so maybe a similar leveldistribution works for you too.

[pale kettle]

i actually got it, and no i need bit more essence to have 2 at 220

Tried it again with fawkes, even tho he died within 2 seconds i beat the lvl lol

[brittle summit]

Still need some help on this stage

[coral pier]

@brittle summit What about replacing Tasi with more damage like Shemira or Gwyn

[turbid ridge]

Wondering who to take to level 121 next, just got enough dust finally

[coral pier]

@turbid ridge Saveas

[dusty elk]

I don’t even know what I would use to beat this

[odd python]

@dusty elk try
athalia
arthur
nemora
brutus
shem

could try lucius in place of arthur and belinda in place of shem for faction bonus too

[pale kettle]

Should I still build up Shemira even if I have enough Belinda's to make an ascended one

[near hare]

it's been nearly 2 days and i can't get past this stage. 13-40. the issue is that my tanks die very quickly, basically Belinda outlives them even when placed in front, and even if she kills Brutus, the enemy Belinda ults her. any ideas? x-x

[scenic swan]

any help on this lab fight??

[white ravine]

24-52 any advice on trying to get past this fight?

[ripe garnet]

Much help would be appreciated

Chapter 16-40

[odd python]

@white ravine try
athalia
lyca
tasi/brutus
nemora
shemira

[teal glade]

So the typical way to merc this would be ascended numisu. But is there an argument to be made for an m+satrana? Idk her usefulness

Mauler 135

[shy shale]

Opinions. I always go for Shemira. But with these as my current heroes. Shouldn't I go with Nemora for the first time ever.

Yes, I am aware I am short a dedicated tank. But it's Nemora. I have all Wilders in first pulls. And have a lot of CC. Thoughts?

[woven lichen]

@shy shale nemora isn’t a bad choice but usually pick shemira so she can reach mythic by the time you are ready to level up to L161.

[shy shale]

Nemora can ascend to tht lv too tho right

[woven lichen]

@ripe garnet if you have a Nemora, try her instead of tasi to see if you can charm Arden. Otherwise can also try charming Nemora on top so that she charms some other hero

@shy shale she can but nemora isn’t the carry. Shemira at L161 to L240 is the most powerful carry and helps you progress really fast. While Nemora is fine at lower ascensions

@near hare if you have him, fawkes is a great counter to Brutus invulnerability and can remove the highest threat target.. otherwise maybe tasi or Arden for more crowd control

[fluid obsidian]

Help ?

[woven lichen]

@fluid obsidian lower tasi’s def so that Silvina jumps on her... try

Nemora
-shemira
Lyca
-Brutus
Tasi
(Nemora charms Isabelle or vedan, after Silvina attacks tasi... she goes to Brutus)

[shy shale]

Thanks @woven lichen Guess I was just tryna build a Wilder team. I do fancy Shemira though. Guess I will stick with tradition lol

[woven lichen]

@shy shale you should hopefully get enough tokens to get both though. If you did want to go wilder route only... you at least need Eironn or some other carry (make Eironn the highest leveled hero... depends a lot on luck regarding if you can ascend him though)

[finite viper]

Can anyone help?

[cerulean hamlet]

@finite viper
Nara

• Shemira
  Rowan
• Arthur
  Talene

Maybe try that? Also can you post the rest of your lineup?

[finite viper]

Wdym post rest if my lineup?

[visual quiver]

your whole hero roster

[finite viper]

Didn’t work, all my heroes died

[visual quiver]

that's why he/she wanted to see your whole hero roster

[ebon veldt]

LB120 belinda keeps getting distracted by totems

[cerulean hamlet]

Mh, do you by any chance have an arden? Maybe that or Rosa, if you can't get Shem to ult and stay alive with the previous comp maybe try higher CC.

If all else fails though I guess you might have to use a tear

@ebon veldt Possibly a merc Gwyneth could work? Otherwise perhaps fawkes depending on what he banishes

[ebon veldt]

then I'd have to give up merc lucius

[cerulean hamlet]

True, but Gwyneth is generally more likely to break through totems than belinda is if they're what's giving you the most trouble

[final meteor]

23-46

[teal glade]

What needs to go right for this to work. Can't think of many changes really. Do I need to use my l+ rosa and merc a better luci? Or maybe even merc a Gwyneth in place of belinda. Edit nvm best merc gwyn I can get is M

[woven lichen]

@teal glade is shemira being confined? Is shemira life leach killing Lucius too fast? Can potentially try Rowan in front with Lucius moving forward but might be too much for Rowan with Silvina too

[teal glade]

Oh managed to get it to work. Found an obscure positioning I missed withucius behind rowan when i first did a search. Now I'm stuck at 153 lol. Bout to try koyu's screenshot tho

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions ?

[woven lichen]

@teal glade alright cool. Good luck 🙂

@pale kettle might be too many dps characters... adding Hogan would help to prevent enemies in reaching saveas or Belinda

[pale kettle]

Hogan dies pretty fast all the time
I’m always tryinna avoid using him
And tbh I think both WuKong and Antandra are much better heroes as they can be really useful while attacking
Especially Antandra shes a carry hero isn’t she?

She often kills the last 3 heroes alone and is always the last remaining alive from my team
As for WuKong I really like his Clones move

[woven lichen]

@pale kettle in that case, I would boost antandra’s levels by 20-40 levels and make her your main carry and take out saveas for some crowd control or support hero like lyca raine arden Nemora etc (usually people use saveas instead of antandra but I can see her as filling that role)

[teal glade]

Any real improvements for this or keep trying to rng fawkes until belinda can ult with his ult on brutus

[scenic swan]

any help with this please

[woven lichen]

@teal glade that might be the best unless you put eye on Lucius and he can stop eironn’s vacuum.

[teal glade]

Kk. I'll keep fishing for that dodge rng then lol

[woven lichen]

@scenic swan who does fawkes coffin? Can maybe try Khazard for some crowd control... otherwise maybe put Rosa front so slower for Brutus to reach the back

[pale kettle]

@woven lichen I really tried using Lyca in the middle so many times
Heard a lot of people saying shes one of the best heroes in the game
But I don’t know why shes never helpful and just like Raine, they both die so fast

I even tried using Estrilda at some point but she rushes to her death so badly

[teal glade]

@woven lichen current I'm using blade on belinda. Grace on fawkes (obv), call on lucius, literally whatever on rowan and eye on rosa.

Dammit I legit had it. Belinda wrecked brutus hard and got an early fawkes ult on him but vurk managed to pick me off. So close but def doable

[woven lichen]

@pale kettle part of it is that they are still at level 100 since on crystal... missing a big stat boost. The other thing is that she might need to be higher level before she shines... usually lyca is great for the haste boost which allows tasi, Arden, Nemora, etc to get the crowd control skills out first. Nemora charming enemies like Arden or Ferael can drastically change a fight. Using lyca by herself isn’t that useful

@teal glade well if you’re close... then good luck! 👍

[teal hinge]

I need help on this stage

[woven lichen]

@teal hinge could try swapping tasi and Nara... Silvina should attack tasi and then focus on Brutus. Nara could then focus on damage dealers... or add back lyca for speed in crowd control or Nemora to charm.... so could do tasi Arden Nemora I’m back

[craggy sparrow]

Any help here completely stuck?

[woven lichen]

@craggy sparrow what floor? Probably want fawkes to cancel shields and coffin

[primal socket]

any advice?

[woven lichen]

@primal socket not a lot of tanking... I’d probably try to push Mirael 20-40 levels above everyone else and surround her with Rowan Lucius Brutus and tasi/Arden/lyca

[primal socket]

@woven lichen thanks

[worthy bane]

Lucius, Belinda, Wukong, Arden, Ulmus. You should focus on making E+ heros to pass your level cap.

[golden finch]

which one do I put in the front?

[worthy bane]

Probably Lucius + Ulmus front

[golden finch]

oki and do I do Wukong+arden+belinda in that eay

[worthy bane]

12345 = Lucius, Ulmus, Wukong, Arden, Belinda

[golden finch]

ty

[dire stream]

Hi, just wanted to get some input. I’m currently using the first four and then eirron

[worthy bane]

Eironn early on is pretty weak, Tasi or Nemora would be better, otherwise seems fine

[dire stream]

I was thinking about bringing in sherima, is it too early?

[worthy bane]

Yeah she'd need more investment, specifically to be Equal or higher ascention with the rest of the team

[dire stream]

Ahh, makes sense

Thank you for the feedback @worthy bane

[worthy bane]

Always ❤️

[novel crypt]

need lineup help

[pastel crypt]

Need help on 24-52 pls

[fringe mural]

Best lineup with these heroes?

[woven lichen]

@novel crypt

Shemira
-Lucius
Rowan
-Talene
Tasi/fawkes
(Shemira silences Mirael and hopefullly enough energy gen to ult)

[cinder cloak]

Struck on 10-40. Any ideas?

[woven lichen]

@pastel crypt

@fringe mural Lucius saveas mehira Rosa fawkes... maybe Wu kong or Hogan for tanking

@cinder cloak tasi banishes Isabelle? Could try putting Nemora bottom to charm vedan and shemira on bottom too if she can survive

[cinder cloak]

When he turns to bats he demolishes my whole team. For some reason he just won't charm

[fringe mural]

@woven lichen who should i put up front with lucius if i use that lineup?

[pastel crypt]

@woven lichen thanks so much it worked 🥳

[woven lichen]

@fringe mural saveas if overleveled enough. Otherwise may need Wu kong, Hogan, or golus as a tank

@pastel crypt congrats! 🙂👍

[fringe mural]

@woven lichen thanks ill work on that now

@woven lichen im surprised no shemira tho everyone always mentiones her, i guess its because she only gets powerful past 160?

[bronze veldt]

Can't get through, I've also tried replacing saveas with tasi. Should I just change anyone out, level up shem, or level up the tanks?

[woven lichen]

@fringe mural she is best after L161 since her ult will heal herself too... before that she can be decent too but then you want to surround her with healers... so Rowan Lucius rosa.. or Nemora lyca Arden/tasi etc

@bronze veldt I would shift shemira’s levels into saveas and replace shemira with tasi or Brutus. Mirael in shemira’s spot is also decent... Mirael can shield and aoe attack everyone

[bronze veldt]

Okay thank you!

[fringe mural]

@woven lichen okay thanks alot!

[pastel crypt]

This feels downright impossible at my level 😭

24-60

[woven lichen]

@pastel crypt it’s possible but definitely one of the tougher stages... see people asking for help there a lot... most people start to transition to Ferael

[tall forge]

Stuck here for a week, any tips?

[serene basin]

Mauler 115, just deletes my team even with my best gear, no mercs available

[ebon veldt]

khasos back middle

remove vurk and skreg frontline

if numisu doesnt buff khasos try to adjust gear so khasos has higher attack than brutus

[serene basin]

@ebon veldt so whose the other Frontline warek? Antandra

[ebon veldt]

brutus and skreg

[serene basin]

Oh I miss read that, okay

[sharp flame]

@tall forge

Arden
--Shemira
Lyca
--Brutus
Nemora

[tall forge]

Aight ty @sharp flame

[serene basin]

Still just getting deleted

[ebon veldt]

220 is a bit low for faction 115

maybe get a merc khasos/brutus/safiya or get one of them to 240

[mortal abyss]

Hey guys, I’m having some trouble trying to determine what direction I want to take my account. I was going hard for wilders early on but it has been feeling a bit lackluster lately. I’ve managed to snag a decent pool of LB but I am still hesitant to decide if I should switch over and use my faction scrolls for LB instead of Wilders. My current team is Shemira/Brutus/Tasi/Nemora/Lyca

If anyone have advice as to what I should go for that would be greatly appreciated

[forest carbon]

Read the Ascension guide in #classic-questions. You're wasting too many fodder making L heroes. I would probably stick with wilder and go standard brutus Shem triple wilder @mortal abyss

[ashen charm]

I think I need help in this stage

[sharp flame]

@ashen charm i cant see your whole pool but:

Belinda
----lucius
Arden
----shemira
Rosa

[ashen charm]

Saveas do one hit to my heroes

[mortal abyss]

@forest carbon thanks. Is it still worth going Lyca if she is only elite? She is pretty much instant dying in most cases.

[sharp flame]

@ashen charm if that doesn't work change Arden for Nemora and reset until Saveas gets charmed. Also, leveling a Saveas of your own is more appealing than a LB faction to me

[ashen charm]

Thanks, I'll do that @sharp flame

[sharp flame]

@mortal abyss Lyca is worth.. I've used her in almost every stage since chapter 12 (currently @ 21)

[true forge]

What would be my best 5,i was thinking to switch from mauler wilder to mauler light?

[mortal abyss]

My problem now is that even though she is good if she survives, she rarely survives more than 5-10s in the fight regardless of where I position being that she is just Elite and i'm around the range of lvl 121-140. Should I just replace her for now with something else or still stick with her in my squad?

@sharp flame

[ebon veldt]

lyca does absolute crap dps unless she has +20 sig item

you just lyca only for the buff most times

[subtle talon]

Can’t pass this stage, and don’t get saveas to e+... Someone a idea?

[sharp flame]

@mortal abyss I don't user her for dmg/tanking, she is there for the early haste

[woven lichen]

@mortal abyss if you went with lb, you don’t have much crowd control without fawkes but you would ult a lot faster.... can try estrilda Rosa Rowan shemira and Brutus.... some stages are easier with Lb and others with wilder

[true forge]

@woven lichen so best for early would be to put the staple wilders in the crystal and switch out with lb suports depending on stage and use saveas as carry?

[mortal abyss]

yeah that's one of the main reasons I ask, I had more success with the comp you suggested than my triple wilder brutus comp. I think it's a tough call without lucius or fawkes though

[sharp flame]

@subtle talon

Arden
-----Lucius
Saveas
-----Brutus
Numisu

[woven lichen]

@true forge yes it helps to be flexible. Both comps also work quite well with shemira later too

@mortal abyss I would at least keep Rowan and Rosa available. The double ult to shemira later is really powerful especially if you have Lucius for shielding. The wilder trio is much better for crowd control though. With lyca, Arden and Nemora can crowd control first... which means you can charm enemy Nemora Arden or Ferael to crowd control their own team.... or enemy Isabelle and Belinda to attack their team

[subtle talon]

@sharp flame ok ty, and what lv should I get them? Saveas Max and tanks Max?

[mortal abyss]

I think i'm going to hold onto my factions and elite card choices for now until I roll a bit more to see how everything plays out. Thanks for the suggestion @woven lichen 😄

[true forge]

I think ill go for lb as faction choice, they seem overall best value, shemira is free from lab and lb has lucius and alot of great units, belina copies also will help when i get the elite + free belinda

[sharp flame]

@subtle talon I always made my carry +40, then raise 20 levels of the others, then +40 again, etc

[subtle talon]

@sharp flame y the only Problem is I don’t have sav e+, If i get him I’ll do that 🙂

[sharp flame]

@subtle talon he is very common, I've made 2L+ Saveas in 21 chapters 👌

[old ridge]

Comp for new guild boss? (There are twins down there too)

[gleaming flax]

Line up help pls

[rough onyx]

can someone help me with the lineup im stuck here for 1day already😅

[past verge]

Should I make lucius Legendary or wait for one more elite+ lightbringer to make Belinda Mythic? Same question with Graveborn for Shermira saving for Mythic or making Thoran Legendary+ to raise level cap

[versed flare]

Tips for 11-40?

[cyan pelican]

Anybody have any ideas about a good lineup? My Thane keeps dying immediately

[torn spire]

Everyone gets obliterated, and Shemira dies the last against almost full hp enemies

So how exactly am I supposed to beat them and end Chapter 15...

[potent cairn]

If you have arden you could try:

Lyca
Kaz
Arden
Lucius
Shem

or put shem front to build energy asap, you need to try and stop fera from draining energy

[torn spire]

My arden is like low-lvl :c

I still keep losing

Nevermind, I finally passed it!!!

[old ore]

Any help with the new twisted realm boss?

[harsh wave]

How to master Kane???

[pale kettle]

Talene gave me a better rating on twisted realm

[drifting root]

What's a decent team for new guild boss? My shem gets oneshotted with the first big flame attack

[violet igloo]

shemira belinda rowan rosa athalia, and put ults on manual and have only belinda ult in the first 15s, try that

[proven rock]

ill try this ^

[umbral adder]

didn't quite work for me, belinda wasn't able to get her ult out in time

and the lack of survivability killed the rest of the team later on

[coarse hamlet]

Lucius copy or 10 faction scrolls?

[violet igloo]

@coarse hamlet Lucius copy 100%

[coarse hamlet]

Aighty, thx

[proven rock]

Silver 3 is all i can get

[willow moon]

Kane ideas? New boss means lots of theory crafting, really curious to hear thoughts

I'm not entirely sure what to do, but at the moment I can't even get past bronze V lmao

[violet igloo]

Try Shemira Belinda Athalia Rowan Lorsan and have only Belinda ult manually the first 15s

[devout marsh]

Thats atm the highest dmg i can get

[tough matrix]

21-10. Need help.

[main grove]

place rowan before werek, werek cant throw rowan and put lucius behind rowan

[brittle summit]

Who should I use on this stage (24-58)?

[muted venture]

Any comp ideas?

Or just gotta lvl up

[violet igloo]

Try replacing Fawkes with Arden and see if he can root ennemies a couple of times

[quiet barn]

Hahaha stuck there too. Don't know what to change either

Oh did it, rng blessed me

[amber kestrel]

Not shown, M Athalia. Got close with Ferael in Tasi’s place, but am no longer getting very close.

[quiet barn]

@muted venture This worked for me

[muted venture]

Damn how did your Lucius survive the burst

[quiet barn]

Rng Is guess haha

[muted venture]

Oh it worked for me too

Thanks 🙌

[quiet barn]

Congrats! :)

[subtle talon]

Atm chapter 8 beginning. I can make shimer to legend with 2x vegan as food. Should I do it? And can I use her or useless until 141?

[iron meadow]

First run almost 5m.. what to use?

[primal bridge]

21-4. Can't do anything to them.

[minor tundra]

21-60, any suggestions?

[winter matrix]

@minor tundra Have u tried

Shemira
Brutus
Rowan/Nemora
Lyca
Ferael/Athalia

[rough onyx]

this stage is killing 40+ trys already can someone help?

[pastel robin]

26m with this line-up

[old ore]

Help with mine please for kane

[winter matrix]

@rough onyx Take Shemira out. Before lvl 161+ Shemira is very uselesss. Also why are u using a lvl 1 Wukong? I see you got Khazard, which is a very op hero. For comp I would use

Khazard
Wukong
Mirael
Brutus
Nemora

[zinc stump]

Need help with Kane please

[winter matrix]

You could run something like

Belinda
Shemira
Rowan
Rosaline
Twins

Also make sure to take all the gear off your carry, or Kane will execute him in the first 15 seconds

[devout idol]

Best formation for Kane ?

[jaunty flume]

Need help can’t pass this 6-24

[winter matrix]

@jaunty flume Shemira is useless before lvl 161+. Replace her with Mirael. Also Saveas is an insane carry. Get him to lvl 100 quickly. Team comp could be

Saveas
Ulmus
Mirael
Wukong
Nemora

[jaunty flume]

Ok I’ll try that @winter matrix thanks

[west drum]

Any tips? Enemy saveas just demolishes me

[winter matrix]

Get Saveas to 160. U can also switch up Lyca and Lucius' spot. Or get all your L and L+ heroes leveled up

[zinc stump]

@winter matrix with bel being 31 levels over shem would gear make enough difference?

[winter matrix]

In the Kane battle all your levels are evenly spread. For example my heroes are lvl 220, 220, 200, 200, 180 and the level my heroes are in Kane is 204.

[zinc stump]

@winter matrix good point. Forgot about that. I'll try it thanks

[rough onyx]

@winter matrix thank you very much i try it out later

[amber rapids]

23-60 pls help. Athalia one shotting most my comps

[pale kettle]

22-58 just powered threw 10 stages now I get like one shot by a sav

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle that's how the game works, you push then get stuck xd what happens if you put Athalia instead of lyca?

[pale kettle]

Brutus soloes my shemira

[old ore]

@winter matrix you helped out others, could you recommend a comp for me? For Kane

[winter matrix]

Im not an expert but I think u could do

Shemira
Kaz
Rowan
Belinda
Twins

I've heard Twins are good for Kane

[potent cairn]

I'm at a loss, ya ik I wasted fodder early game

[odd python]

@potent cairn try
nara
brutus
rowan
thoran
shemira

[potent cairn]

i'll give that a few runs, ty

[odd python]

alternatively you can try ferael in place of rowan but idk how much better that would do

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me with kane? Shemira always dies first some reason. Also, average is 212

[odd python]

@pale kettle read kane’s skills

[pale kettle]

Oh

Does anyone have a lineup i can use?

[violet igloo]

@pale kettle
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Belinda
Athalia/Estrilda

make sure to ult manually belinda first so that Belinda dies first.

[plush patrol]

Can this be beaten with the current heroes or do I have to level up the others? My crystal’s currently stuck till I get more elites to ascend them so it may be a while

[median crag]

Need some help on 22-50, try everything I could thing of

[winged mulch]

Any help?

[violet igloo]

@plush patrol try switching Tasi and Lucius, see if it works.

@median crag Try
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
Nemora

Nemora needs to charm ennemy Arden, it'll need a few retries

[median crag]

Thanks, I’ll try that

[violet igloo]

@winged mulch I strongly recommend you buy Shemira in lab.

Right now your DPS is Khasos, so you need to have him lvl 160 and others lvl 120. Try :
Khasos
Lucius
Nemora
Estrilda
Fawkes/Arden/Tasi

[dusty elk]

Kane line up? Is e+ twins good enough or should I switch it?

[potent cairn]

no luck @odd python

[winged mulch]

@violet igloo yeah, that's what I am working on RN. Ty, will try that formqtion

[violet igloo]

@dusty elk try :
Lorsan
Shemira
Rowan
Belinda
Athalia/Estrilda

You need to manually ult Belinda so that she dies at 15s in combat

[dusty dock]

Need help :(

[white birch]

Help please?

[fathom apex]

Any advice for 25-32?

[sharp flame]

@white birch

Can't see if you have a Lyca but

Nemora/Lyca
-----Brutus
Tasi
-----savead
Arden

[white birch]

It’s mauler tower I can’t use them

[sharp flame]

Id also remove Eironn and vedan from the crystal and put Mehira and Rowan @white birch

@white birch if it's Maulers then you don't have enough

It's prior to WT69 right?

[white birch]

Uh it’s 61 I believe?

[winter meteor]

Need help on last stage 11-40... I'll get Rowan back to the crystal later today, but it's HARD anyways.

[violet igloo]

@winter meteor put your Shemira at level 160 and other heroes at lvl 120. Also don't ascend hero to L if you can't ascend them to L+ straight after. Then try :
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Arden/Twins

or if you want to keep belinda as dps :
Nemora
Belinda
Lucius
Brutus
Rowan / Rosa / Twins

[winter meteor]

Isn't shemira only good after 161? She won't be able to get 161 at L+

[winter matrix]

Shemira Shines after lvl 161+. She is still a bit usefull at lvl 160

Not nearly as much as 161+ Shemira, but can still do average damage

[violet igloo]

Yeah shemira is stronger at 161 than 160 but imho I prefer Shemira 160 than Belinda 160, she's still better and can clutch with her regen

[winter meteor]

About the L+ heroes, chapter 11-40 gives a Nemora copy and I need one more to L+ her, for everyone else I have a copy (one rowan, one rosaline and one lucius)

I only ascend L them because I wasn't strong enough and heroes kept dying TOO FAST.

[winter matrix]

I guess u can ascend Nemora to L, because she cam be bought from lab store

[winter meteor]

Only one I regretted by ascending L was Brutus, since I don't use him and dies way too fast.

[violet igloo]

Nemora to L is safe ascend 👍 as @winter matrix said

@winter meteor Brutus is really good hero, it's not a bad decision at all.

[winter meteor]

I guess after I clear chapter 11-40 with Voyage of Wonders rewards and +10 fac and +10 commom scrolls I could get one of those, chances are ok.

[violet igloo]

Yeah. Have you read the guide pinned in this channel ? Brutus is part of the meta comp Shemira Brutus + Trio Wilder support (Tasi Lyca Nemora)

[winter meteor]

My Tasi and Twins are only Elite tho... they'll die WAY too fast.

[violet igloo]

Twins is not part of meta comp ^^

[winter meteor]

Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Arden/Twins
About this ^

[violet igloo]

yeah. Well your carry is Shemira and it's about getting the faction bonus, arden of twins will give this.

[winter meteor]

Unless I'm playing terribly wrong and don't know some secret mechanics, they'll just die way faster... the first attack of Khasos just crit for 70k on my Lucius

[winter matrix]

Your team is good for now

[winter meteor]

Uhh, which relics should I put on each?

[winter matrix]

What relics do u have?

[dusty elk]

@violet igloo just out of curiosity what does the manual ult do that makes dieing at 15s good?

[winter matrix]

U can reduce damage of your carry by not letting him ult so Kane doesnt execute him

[violet igloo]

@dusty elk Kane will instantly one shot the hero that has does the most damage to him (read his 1st ability). So if it's your belinda who's done the most damage, she'll die. This is good because then Shemira can ult and deal a ton of damage

[zinc stump]

@drifting arrow Belinda, Wu kong, Lucius, Raine, Thane. Replace Thane with Rosaline when you get her

[winter meteor]

Since I'm on chapter 11, the first 4 relics.

[winter matrix]

I dont remember what the first 4 relics are

[winter meteor]

grace, eye, call and drape

[muted venture]

Need help for comp to get to 16-11

[winter matrix]

Grace should go on a tank, as it gives dodge. Eye on a Carry (Belinda, Shemira, Saveas...), Call Rowan/Lucius, Drape on someone in your team (preferably 2nd tank)

You have a M+ Lucius, that u should use. Your team looks fine just switch Brutus for Lucius and Switch Shemiras spot to front up. So it should look like

Fawkes/Arden
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline/Nemora @muted venture

[muted venture]

yeah he was just getting melted from saveas/khasos crits

[dusty elk]

@violet igloo ooooooh thank you

[muted venture]

nice ty ill try that

[winter matrix]

If he's getting melted u can try Brutus against Saveas and Shemira at the frontline top

[quiet barn]

For the new realm Boss what would u recommend for me?
I tried buffing Shem and sacking Belinda but somehow my Rosaline died instead

[winter matrix]

The hero that gets executed is the hero that deals the most damage in the first 15s of the battle. So u can make Belinda do the most damage and she will get killed and then Shemira and Rosaline will do good damage to him

[quiet barn]

Yeah, I just don't get how Belinda got out dps'd by Rosaline. Only bel used skill

And then sack shem as 2nd i'm assuming right?

[winter matrix]

Yea, but that happens when theres 45s left of the fight, so u should get some damage off on Kane

[fathom apex]

Any advice?

[quiet barn]

Does the fact that my Heroes get downscaled to lvl 144 change that tactic? Since Shem gets good after that

[winter matrix]

I think it doesnt change anything

[quiet barn]

Okay, thanks!

[teal hinge]

Can someone help me with this stage??

[torpid turret]

Try use the first 5 u got in the first photo, shem and Brutus in front, athalia vs Arden to make him do the vine move go later

[amber rapids]

23 60. Pls help or tell me if this is even possible with my current inventory. Athalia is so op

[olive cloak]

Dunno what to really do still pretty new. Guess going grave born? I get another Shemira in 2 days. Can dm if u like unloading info xd

[winter matrix]

Shemira becomes good after lvl 161+. You made a lot of L heroes, I suggest you dont do this anymore as ascending to L can waste all your fodder and you might be stuck on L for a long time. For a team comp I would use. Also make a L+ Saveas. He is a carry at lvl 160 that will take you to chapter 14. For a team comp I would do

Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
Brutus/Eironn
Arden @olive cloak

[mortal flax]

Stuck at 13-20 but it feels pretty close

[olive cloak]

@winter matrix ok notes and ty. Ill leave everything alone I presume and just go for the Saveas as u suggested

[winter matrix]

@olive cloak Would be recommended as Saveas carried my ass to ch14 at lvl 160

[olive cloak]

I assume I just reset my other hero’s and leave at 120? And all in Saveas

[winter matrix]

@mortal flax First off you have to make Saveas L+. He is insane at lvl 160. Then for a comp try something like

Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda/Skreg
Nemora/Tasi

[mortal flax]

is he still worth it to bring to L+? thought I could maybe skip this

[winter matrix]

@olive cloak Well your Saveas is only E, so his max lvl is 100. Your crystal at them moment is lvl 120. So until u get Saveas to L/L+ u leave him in the crystal

@mortal flax Saveas was my (and other peoples) carry in early game. At lvl 160 he will carry you to chapter 14

[olive cloak]

Ok 👌 will do that ty!

[mortal flax]

I mean I am halfway done with 13, not sure if I can bring him to L+ until 14 but I try, TY!

[olive cloak]

So I guess when people are stuck. We just wait and do dailies until something happens? (Waiting for more exp snd copies for Saveas)

[winter matrix]

You are at that point where u just have to wait and get everything to 140. Also by reseting Nemora u can lvl up Belinda and raise the lvl cap to 140 @olive cloak

[olive cloak]

Oh ok I’ll do that

[visual quiver]

24-24 tried everything that was suggested in this channel. Nothing comes close to working

[amber rapids]

Dw i cleared chapter 23 without advice

[proven tulip]

Any suggestion for this level? Feel like I’m stuck on it for weeks.

[slim garden]

@visual quiver

Try that

@proven tulip try lyca, Brutus, shem, nemora, tasi

Should be easy with your crystal🤘🏻

[glacial dome]

I could use some help on 23-60. That Athalia is just crazy...

I have those available:

[proven tulip]

@slim garden thanks, works better than what I tried but I still die. I’ll try to boost these guys as much as I can.

[glacial dome]

@amber rapids Could you give me advice on your 23-60?

[wise ermine]

Stuck here on 6-39. Any help/tips? Also on who I should be leveling to deal with this

[amber rapids]

This was the team. Had grezhul tank for the athalia @glacial dome. The lucius kept the belinda out of the game and tasi kept freezing the raine from buffing her allies

Still had a shemira and lucius in the front line

Lyca wasnt necessary for this because the enemies have so much disable and evasion paired with quick kill potential

@glacial dome level your heroes to lvl 254 and get that grezhul si to 20. Itll make a huge difference

[winter matrix]

@wise ermine Get all of your team to lvl 100. Also u can replace that Golus with another tank

[amber rapids]

@glacial dome when you have all that, borrow a friends lucius (ascended) and go lucius shem infront. Fawkes rosaline and grezhul backline. Let grezhul take the athalia hit

[wise ermine]

any specific alternative you see that would be better? @winter matrix

[glacial dome]

@amber rapids Thank you! My Grezh is stuck at sig 16 for now. My Grezhul can't live longer than 3 seconds against that Athalia, lol.

[amber rapids]

Trust me it will do at lvl 254, and si 20 is MASSIVELY different to si 10

At least for grez @glacial dome alao good luck and feel free to join our lvl 7 guild ^_^

[shy shale]

I wanna switch it up. Suggestions.

[winter matrix]

@wise ermine I cant see your heroes. Send a ss of your heroes list and I'll see if u have anyone better

[glacial dome]

@amber rapids Do you think Rosa will be better than Tasi in my setup?

[wise ermine]

@winter matrix

[amber rapids]

@glacial dome idk, but your tasi is still L+ so she will die too fast. And borrowing the ascended lucius is more crucial than the tasi xD

[winter matrix]

@shy shale For now Saveas will be your carry. Get him to L+ as soon as possible. For a lineup I'd use

Saveas
Lucius
Tasi
Seirus
Eironn/Arden

[amber rapids]

I have a feeling cwonk is in chapter 27

[winter matrix]

@wise ermine You could do

Saveas
Hogan
Mirael
Wukong
Belinda

Mirael and Saveas will be your biggest carries in early game

@amber rapids nah mate Im not that good

[amber rapids]

F2p?

[winter matrix]

Yup

[amber rapids]

♡ yaaaas another f2p

What chapter u in :3 you got me curious

[winter matrix]

@amber rapids 21

[amber rapids]

Pog

[split peak]

Use twins

[shy shale]

Yeah I was using a full team of Wilders.
Using Lorsan, Eironn and Wukong. And mixing in Tasi, Ulmus and Seirus.

In two days I will have Shemira.

[idle oriole]

Any meta for Kane?

[winter matrix]

Use multiple carries. Kane will execute the hero that does the most damage in the first 15s. So if u dont want your carry to die u can make him not use his ult, and see if someone else will get killed. Also works If u take all your gear off your carry

[livid quest]

I was confused because my name is actually Kane lmao

[idle oriole]

Lol

@winter matrix yea was using shem, bel and khasos but feel like should be getting more damage

[winter matrix]

You can try putting all your good gear on Belinda so she get executed and the Khasos and Belinda will do a lot of damage. Also helps if u have a Rosaline. Remember that u can use Mercs on Kane

[idle oriole]

Yep was also using rosa

[glacial dome]

@amber rapids Made it. 251, switched Grezh for Thordan. RNG was involved. :D

Three Shem ults knocked Athalia out.

[pale kettle]

Getting destroyed on stage 11-38

Probably just need to level more but any other suggestions lineup wise?

[limpid owl]

did u try swapping saveas with belinda position wise? he is higher lvl so he can probably tank better than her

[pale kettle]

Oh yeah I’ve tried saveas everywhere. Realistically I need another tank I think but for this stage I’m just too under leveled I guess because everyone’s dead within a few seconds

[limpid owl]

well you dont really have any crowd controll, maybe try tasi/arden instead of rosaline it might buy enough time for ur belinda and nemora ults

[pale kettle]

They’re too weak unfortunately but when I level them I’ll try that again thank you

[winter matrix]

U can try

Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Belinda
Rosaline

[placid flower]

Anyone have ss for floor 302?

[winter matrix]

Also with 2 fodder Wilders u can make Lyca L+ @pale kettle

@placid flower

[placid flower]

Ty

@winter matrix ty 😆

[winter matrix]

[placid flower]

All I see on my friends list are thoran bombs 😛

[winter matrix]

Yea, everyone does Thoran cheese

[subtle talon]

Hey together, I can get shimera to leg ( food 2x vedan) and belinda ( food angelo und hogan) should I level them up? Are they useful now? Ty 🙂

[winter matrix]

@subtle talon Ill reply in 5 mins, just gotta something

[subtle talon]

@winter matrix ty 🙂 don’t hurry

[violet bone]

ṧḙῥῤῩ

[agile robin]

Is there something worthwhile to spebd gold on when starting ? Gear ?

[violet bone]

Yeh

[winter matrix]

Okay, so Shemira isnt that good before lvl 161+ so Until then Saveas will be your carry. And u dont want to ascend to L unless you can ascend to L+. Because u might not get the E+ copy of the needed hero for a long time. Belinda is very usefull but dont Ascend her to L, because she might be stuck there.

@agile robin the most worth thing is in the shop buying dust and later purple and gold sigs. Until then buy dust and enhance your gear

[agile robin]

@cwonk ok thanks...besides gear anything I should be looking for in the guild store ?

[pale kettle]

When started I always ran out either enhancing gear or leveling a hero. How far in are you? I’d stock up and only use gold for dust and when I got stuck enhance some gear

[subtle talon]

@winter matrix ok ty, so stay with this heros an i’ll try to switch some heros. 🙂

[agile robin]

@pale kettle at beginning of level 6 heres a screenshot

[pale kettle]

Ah yeah just dust and enhancing gear that gold will go quick buying dust every day

[agile robin]

Ok thanks and is buying gear from the guild store ok or should I save currency for later ?

[violet bone]

I recommend saving it for when you really need it.

[plush patrol]

How do I beat those heals? ;_;

[pale kettle]

Best formation?

[woven lichen]

@plush patrol you may need to level up or use a carry with powerful burst damage like Belinda or Shemira along with Rosa and Rowan to speed up additional ults

@pale kettle I would pick between shemira or antandra or saveas and make them the primary carry... level up 20-40 levels above everyone else. Add in an additional support hero for healing or crowd control

[proven finch]

What's the best kane linup? i don't really have twins so that sucks ://

[brittle summit]

Best setup I should use for Kane in the twisted realm?

[woven lichen]

@brittle summit you could try Rosa shemira Belinda Rowan and Lucius... unfortunately he automatically kills highest damage dealer so may need to replace Lucius with another damage dealer if you don’t need the healing

[brittle summit]

Rosaline ends up following Shemira instead of Belinda despite Belinda having a higher combat power when I tried using them in a previous attempt.

[pale kettle]

What is the best I can do to push early game quickly?

[woven lichen]

@brittle summit that’s ok since shemira or Belinda will die after 15 or so seconds... so can follow the other one then

@pale kettle maybe saveas Lucius Brutus Mirael and estrilda... Lucius and Brutus as front tanks...

Saveas
-Brutus
Mirael
-Lucius
Estrilda
(Estrilda is support tank and boosts energy and attack for saveas and Mirael)

[pale kettle]

Ok thx !

What team I need to focus for after ?

[brittle summit]

@woven lichen thing is I need her to follow Belinda first.

[woven lichen]

@brittle summit then you may need to check gear and see if you can boost belindas overall power

[brittle summit]

Belinda is the one with the highest power though.

[main dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/667845529580994570/Screenshot_20200117-143839.png
Who do I level next? Brutus or start raising my lowest for the crystal thing?

[visual quiver]

Still need help with 24-24. nothing works pepehands

[rotund copper]

Need help with 12-33

[woven lichen]

@brittle summit can you show me screenshot of shemira and Belinda? Rather strange with the following

[indigo jolt]

@visual quiver 24 24

[woven lichen]

@main dragon if you can, getting 21 is nice for unlocking more skills. Otherwise do carry, tank, and the. Support