trying to repeat there was one i had where i got it down to bel vs bel and lost by like 20% but havent repeated it yet
#lineup-help
wintry ether
pale kettle
it seems possible with the right RNG.
wintry ether
yea i guess ill just spam try it till i can level bel again. you think pushing a level on bel better than leveling rowan up once to get the lvl 141 unlock?
woven lichen
@odd python awesome!
wintry ether
welp rng paid off haha. bel got an insane 4 man ult off.
inland kite
deep solar
novel adder
@deep solar would help if you could post the stage picture itself. maybe we can adjust your formation for it.
@pale kettle you are still very early.. you can run pretty much anything.. your assumed current team should be fine. for now.. its better to wait for more pulls to start reshuffling here and there because in a couple of 10 pulls your roster will look very different.
You can run Wukong, Golus, Numisu, Saveas, arden.. over-level saveas or wukong to 100 first and you can push further for now
pale kettle
Which one in front line and which one backline
novel adder
@inland kite i'd try
Saveas
Shem
Rosaline/Thane
Lucius
Belinda
im not sure who rosaline follows.. but shem and saveas on the weaker flank of the opponent will give you more chance .
@pale kettle in that order
Numisu
Wukong
Saveas
Golus
Arden
But you should switch it up if its not working.. positioning is very stage dependent. but arden and numisu shouldn't be frontline.
@subtle crow nothing really wrong with your team.. but the opposition has levels, formation bonus and safiya buff advantage over you.. safiya probably disrupts your backline too much as well.. early game levels are very very important due to the unlocking of skills.. so even lower powered teams but have higher leveled units are dangerous. Power ratings are generally a bad indicator as well as you will experience many times in this game as well.
untold siren
Should i put thalene in my lineup instead of wukong ?
novel adder
@untold siren depends on stage and what else u have in your team.. neither are long term though since you need a lot of copies to keep using them at a high level.. unless you are spending considerably, that would be unlikely until lategame
untold siren
pale kettle
@untold siren don't spread out your levels like that. Invest your resources into your five main heroes
untold siren
I'll upgrade them right now. Thanks for helping !
obsidian warren
anyone else I should merc instead of lyca? i only have an L+ lyca which is why I merc'd lyca. I can /sometimes/ get ulmus and arden dead, but both thanes tend to just barely survive. I've tried an LB/belinda comp but that seems to only kill one thane and nothing else. ;a; desperately want to pass the stage for epic shards just kept retrying for a while
flat bear
Heya, i really need your help with this one here :p the athalia just dashes through my line up
inland kite
@novel adder she follows lucius all the way
woven lichen
@flat bear if you’re going to use that lineup, try using Rosa to dodge athalia and Nemora to charm Arden. May want a tank like Brutus to hold down athalia afterward though. Otherwise can try fawkes or Rowan
flat bear
@woven lichen ty vm vm :) worked
woven lichen
@flat bear awesome nice work 👍
placid summit
I’m having trouble beating 5-20
woven lichen
@placid summit bit tricky to use shemira as carry at such low levels due to lack of healing. Ideally should use saveas instead. Beyond that, could try Wu kong, saveas Brutus Rosa and athalia... 4 faction bonus... two tanks in wu Kong and Brutus... and dps in saveas
placid summit
My saveas is extremely low level and so is my hogan
And I don’t have the exp to level them up atm
woven lichen
@placid summit I would reset shemira for saveas... can use wu Kong instead of Hogan. Shemira is definitely great later on though... L161+
woven lichen
@placid summit yeah level her up later on or if you need to break level cap
vast bobcat
21-60, been running this setup for days now, and no luck. Any recommendations for changes, to put it again through RNG?
worthy bane
@vast bobcat Try for possibly Lucius over Brutus (unsure who would work better) otherwise try for Crystal 200 once you get the chance and merc a big tasi instead of Nemora
foggy pine
Anything to change?
vast bobcat
@worthy bane need a lot of fodder still for 200 crystal....will try finding a tasi then and switching brutus
woven lichen
@vast bobcat shemira is on lower threat side and Rowan gives some more sustainability
vast bobcat
@woven lichen will try it thanks
any recommendations on artifacts?
should i put the call on shem/rowan/tasi?
woven lichen
@vast bobcat my guess is call tasi or Rowan, shemira blade or eye, chalice Nemora, blade/drape/grace on Brutus.... move call to shemira if she doesn’t ult at all though
vast bobcat
yeah thats my main issue....shem doesnt have time to ult
woven lichen
Try to see if she does with that formation though. A lot less threat on bottom
vast bobcat
will run it through RNG and see, thanks
raw turret
everything just plop dies
worthy bane
@pale kettle Have you tried Thoran cheese with Nara/Athalia to bring ranged dps to Thoran?
I'd go like
Fereal
Lyca
Athalia
Thoran
Nara
+30 Thoran should help big time too if you can rent one
pale kettle
I'll give it a try
fleet hawk
23-24
limpid quail
@raw turret shemira front for lyca and switch arden to bottom, or try nemora bottom back
odd python
@strong vale you can try grez instead of brutus
strong vale
Grezhul is actually the only character not getting annihilated, Brutus isn't doing well at all in my team
odd python
i was pretty overleveled for that stage, with your shem +20 you should be able to do it just reset a few times to get the arden charm to root seirus and you should be good (assuming you've done same setup as mine)
sweet crane
Halp!
strong vale
Hmm my Arden can't bind anything, he dies instantly no matter the spot, if not Khasos axes, then enemy Arden bind or i think Seirus hits him with something
He managed once and he bound Seirus but I got wiped anyway, still getting better results with Ferael instead of Arden
brittle summit
Need help with both of these stages
odd python
@brittle summit try
shem
brutus/lucius
rowan
grez
ferael
brittle summit
@odd python that setup worked for me. Do you have any suggestions for the stage in the lightbearers tower?
floral minnow
Huh no not yet
quiet falcon
gilded flume
wide nymph
kinda hard stuck on 8-25, and tower 100. what could I do for a good lineup? like are some 120's better than a good team comp? also if I were to drop like 5$ max, what would be the best value?
slender ferry
I want to add rosaline to my team who should I replace here with also Brutus used to be on the team but replaced with mehira
lofty depot
@slender ferry No need to use two DPS. Shemira will be your carry when she hits 161. Until then it's better to use Saveas.
You also have Lyca. So replacing Belinda and Shem for Lyca and Saveas would be much better
lofty depot
@slender ferry You can keep her but there's also better options like Nemora/Arden but they're situational so if you're not stuck I'd keep her because she is good. Especially combined with Shem and Tasi later when Shem hits 161
odd python
@brittle summit glad it helped, and im not up to your stage in the lb tower (my faction towers are all behind atm)
lofty depot
@open dome You really shouldn't ascend heroes to L if you can't L+ them immediately or you'll most likely get stuck. Also Saveas is the best DPS until your Shem is level 161 so I would ascend him to L+ and use him.
So:
Saveas
Lucius
Tasi
Lyca/Hogan
Lyca/Nemora/Arden
open dome
It was more to get my lvl more up this kinda my first good account did not know better
Saveas i don't got the units for to get legendsry+
lofty depot
Use him anyways @open dome
open dome
Maybe I just need to start over
plain kernel
strange plaza
Any and all help would be appreciated 🙂
thorny tusk
Hello guys. Could use some direction on where to aim next. I've been told that I got a bit of disbalance having to many L+ lightbearers. At the same time I do have 1-2 L+ heroes in each faction as recommended. So I'd appreciate some advice on what to focus next. Currently at 15-40. Also is my wishlist correct for my heroes? I put a few legendary tier heroes there to use as fodder - does that make sense?
My current thinking is to get whoever I can pull to M (keeping in mind that I'll need to A them, so I'll wait for more copies as well) to raise my level cap. Or should I just try and A some of my current M heroes?
Hmm, sorry to spam images, is there a better way to send multiple?
quiet falcon
odd python
25-56, any ideas to beat this absolute cesspool of a stage or should i wait for cc fix.
@quiet falcon replace thoran with lucius and safiya with shem
pale kettle
Need help with this level. Can’t seem to beat despite trying over and over again. Any suggestions?
Need lineup for kt 302 please
shell heron
Help lineup please
winter matrix
@shell heron Get Shemira to 161 Immediately, then watch the magic happen. For a Lineup I'd go with
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda/Fawkes/Tasi
shell heron
Cheers mate
violet igloo
@shell heron try
Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Rose
Nemora
There are many comps you could make. Also make sure to level your Shemira higher compared to your other heroes. Put her 160 and others 130
pale kettle
Been stuck on this level since forever, any suggestions ?
violet igloo
Nemora can be replaced Ith what cwonk said. Tasi Arden Fawkes Nemora... But put your Shemira lvl 165+
@pale kettle try
Shemira
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Nemora
shell heron
I can't level shemira past 160 if my other heroes are 130, I'll wait to level her 161 I guess
wide nymph
help for a homie? what would be the best option, stuck on 8-25 and tower 100
pale kettle
@violet igloo Nope didn’t work, Nemora dies almost immediately and Lucius barely gets his ultimate off and Shemira gets bombarded by Grezhul’s minions after all my other heroes die
winter matrix
@pale kettle Maybe try
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda/Fawkes/Tasi
pale kettle
@winter matrix it worked! Thank you so much!
winter matrix
wide nymph
8-28*
winter matrix
@wide nymph The reason u cant lvl past 100 is because all your E+ heroes are in crystal. Reset Lucius, Shemira, Tasi and Nemora and lvl up Belinda, Rosaline, Saveas and Ira. This will raise your lvl cap to 120. For a lineup I'd use
Belinda
Lucius
Estrilda
Ogi
Nemora/Rosaline
violet igloo
@Garden_Gnome08#5831 keep trying buntil Nemora charms goes off and Rowan ult aswell. Maybe put Shemira front line
gritty sail
Stuck and need help.
violet igloo
Ah I see it worked gz
@gritty sail does Silvina kill Tasi?
@gritty sail maybe try
Shemira
Grezhul
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
fleet notch
Hi i start game today and i got this for the moment , what team i use ?
gritty sail
Top 5 should be good.
violet igloo
Hi @GeneStyx#5388 ! I hope you like the game you are in for an amazing journey. I see you have lots of mauler heroes so you can start the game by axing your team around that. I would recommend using Saveas as your main DPS
@fleet notch i would use
Saveas
Brutus
Numisu
Skregg
Tasi
Make sure to overlevel your Saveas by 20/30 levels ahead of your other heroes
If you're new to the game I woud highly recommend reading the guide pinned in #classic-questions aswell
fleet notch
no wukong?
violet igloo
Wukong can be placed instead of Tasi
I would highly recommend using Saveas as your main carry, he's very strong, until chap 13 approximately
pale kettle
@fervent gyro why don't you break level cap?
fervent gyro
@pale kettle if I mind asking what exactly does that mean, I’m quite new so... 😅
pale kettle
elite heroes cap at level 100, elite plus heroes cap at 120. you should always be leveling your five highest ascended heroes and putting the rest on crystal @fervent gyro
odd python
@pastel crypt try smth like this, not sure who you would sub for athalia tho
pastel crypt
Hmm thanks for info Rifled
elder lion
Really stuck on this level not sure what to do
odd python
could try fawkes where my athalia is i guess (backline bottom) @pastel crypt
elder lion
Oh my bad usually I use Fawkes in place of Arden
rain oriole
@elder lion try this formation, may need to swap the levels on your Bel/shem
elder lion
Okay I’ll try it thank you 🙂
split peak
Man u really went all out on that shem didnt u
pale kettle
damn, now he's really level capped
rain oriole
That ss is like a month old :p
granite ravine
Can anyone help me build a good team
rain oriole
Post a screenshot of your heroes
subtle talon
Stuck at 5-16, can I change something or just whait for tomorrow? 🙂
subtle talon
rain oriole
You're still pretty early so you'll get a better idea of what team comps you can make after more summons but for now you could run something like Estrilda Raine Fawkes Silvina Saveas, I would reset the Fawkes and Wukong so you can get Rosa and Saveas 101, and start building a Saveas, he can be your DPS carry early game. Have you not been buying Shemira in lab shop? Would recommend doing so, one of most reliable carries to transition you into mid/late game. @granite ravine
@pale kettle try something like
Arden
Lucius/Brutus
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Try and get Arden roots on their Arden Shem Ogi
granite ravine
@rain oriole yeah I do have shemira but she's been getting zmolished lol
pale kettle
Oki will try @rain oriole
rain oriole
You won't be using her right now but start buying copies of her ready to build later on, she becomes really powerful
granite ravine
But okay I'll try what your saying. Wuking not worth it?
rain oriole
As far as I've seen he won't be doing much if he's only Elite and underlevelled
granite ravine
Makes sense
violet igloo
@fresh needle I would use this comp
Saveas
Brutus
Rowan
Hogan
Estrilda
Make sure to level up your Saveas as far as possible, get him to level 120 and ascend him as fast as you can so that you can put him level 140.
fresh needle
@violet igloo would you suggest to reset belinda then?
violet igloo
Indeed, put all your xp into Saveas. Then you can ascend him to Legendary as soon as you can
pastel crypt
Any tips 
fervent gyro
@pale kettle oh gotcha thanks for that 😅
lavish lichen
Just looking for some main team advice. Currently in ch 25 wanting to get away from meta team that got me here
shell heron
Abit stuck
lavish lichen
@shell heron I would try swapping places between Shemira and Rosaline. Then take out Fawkes and put Nemora there to charm Arden. Not sure if you would need Lyca in there for the speed on the charm to prevent vines though.
shell heron
Cheers, I'll mess around with it, see if possible
Nemora didn't charm Arden but guess my Shemira got lucky and healed back to full before Bel could pull off her ult.
naive crown
19-38
sweet crane
Need help doing a Soren lineup, can someone help? Got a free spot at the crystal if needed
waxen beacon
Is it worth to make rowan legendary? And what lineup you suggest? Current one is Shemira, Lucius, Rosalina, Rowan, (Nemira or Arden or Tasi).
woven lichen
@lavish lichen is there a reason why you are going away from meta? Boring? In general wilder trio and Ferael can work all the way to ch 29 or later. But you can definitely mix it up by putting in Rowan and Lucius or only Rowan as 5th hero.
Nara, athalia, and Belinda would expand your options. Safiya with eironn works well too
@naive crown most likely silvina is attacking Arden and killing him before he can root? If so, try using Nemora instead and make silvina jump on tasi... with Lucius nearby so silvina goes to him afterward
naive crown
Yeah, he dies instantly
woven lichen
@sweet crane saveas shemira Lucius Rosa safiya/mirael?
naive crown
Silv goes for the lower defense one right?
woven lichen
@waxen beacon your lineup sounds fine. I would wait on ascending until you get another Rowan elite+ copy so you can make him legendary+
@naive crown yes that’s correct
shell heron
14-12
sweet crane
@woven lichen will positions matter for soren?
naive crown
So, replace arden and give tasi lower defense?
woven lichen
@sweet crane it does to a degree. Want tanks in front with maybe shemira. Front gets charmed by him
@naive crown yes that’s right. Hopefully tasi survives and blinks elsewhere
naive crown
I’ll try it
woven lichen
@shell heron try swapping shemira and Lucius to see if that helps. If not, can put wilder trio in back of lyca Arden and Nemora.... Nemora or Arden at top to focus on high threat targets like ira and lyca
naive crown
Like this?
shell heron
@woven lichen none work I die so fast haha
woven lichen
@naive crown yes that looks correct. Can potentially put Nemora on bottom depending on if vurk or Isabelle is the bigger threat
@shell heron you may need to use Brutus for tanking then
naive crown
vurk hits my lucius really hard
shell heron
Hmm interesting, I shall test it!
Works a tiny bit better if I swap him for Lucius but yeah, maybe I'm stuck here for a bit till I level my heroes? Not sure @woven lichen
woven lichen
@shell heron might take some lucky rng too... can try 10-20 times and then swap formation a bit to see what might get you closer... if still no luck, yeah might need more levels
shell heron
Alright I'll just swap them all around every 10 times see what's best
naive crown
the battle usually just ends in shem being dog piled because she's always the last to die
woven lichen
@naive crown hmm... so you could try putting shemira in a higher threat area to see if she can accumulate energy faster and ult... or.... you can try using Rowan and Rosa... silvina should jump on Rowan... last hero could be tasi or Fawkes (bigger faction bonus)
If Rosa can get shemira to ult twice, should be a win
naive crown
lucius is the one trying to keep the team alive but he just gets smacked real quick
shell heron
@woven lichen kept with this team just changed it around, thanks for the help
naive crown
not sure if moving shem to his spot would help
woven lichen
@shell heron cool nice work!
shell heron
❤️
woven lichen
@naive crown can try to see if she tanks there better... Rowan would help with survivability due to instant healing too
naive crown
mines low ascension so they'll probably die quick
woven lichen
@naive crown ascension doesn’t matter very much for Rowan and Rosa. Elite can work for a very long time
naive crown
i used to do rosa and belinda, but then shem got pushed up to the ascended that she's at now
woven lichen
@naive crown Rowan and Rosa are not stat dependent except maybe a bit for survivability... but they are in back row and Rowan’s potions should immediately heal shemira and Lucius.... Rosa... hopefully survives while following shemira
naive crown
what should i try then
woven lichen
@naive crown
Fawkes
-Lucius
Rowan
-shemira
Rosa
naive crown
good luck to me, i'll need it
oh, artifacts. what about them? i had call and eye on tasi and nem
call on rosa probably
Think I got it?
@woven lichen
oh thank god it worked
woven lichen
@naive crown nice work!!! 😁
naive crown
but now uh
shell heron
Sorry lol, what's best vs Saveas? He kills me
naive crown
im already stuck again
i was on 36 and not 38, now im on actual 38
I switched my team back since the other wasn’t working, this one isn’t either really
woven lichen
@shell heron you may need Brutus to tank saveas
woven lichen
@naive crown so for stages with Arden, usually you want to use Nemora to charm him to prevent rooting. Lyca for faster speed so charm goes faster... last wilder can be tasi or Arden
woven lichen
@naive crown replace tasi or Arden with Nemora... usually want lyca for faster speed still
naive crown
she gets rooted before she can charm anyone
woven lichen
Try a few times... it is rng based especially since both of you have lyca
naive crown
she got the charm, but everyone already had gotten melted
god damn ogi melts anyone in put in front of them, ffs
why does he hit so hard
it feels like shem or lucius is being run over by an 18 wheeler
woven lichen
You may need to put lyca in front to dodge attacks with Brutus/Lucius.... you are on one of the tougher stages
naive crown
who goes in the back? shem or lucius
woven lichen
Shemira
frozen wave
if im using Gorvo L+ as a tank, would Brutus L be better if it keeps my 3/2 aura? running Gorvo, Saveas, Tasi, Arden, Safiya for now for PvE/regular campaign progression.
waiting on dust to upgrade saveas past 120, and tasi is 120 as well, but shes elite+. everyone on my team for that matter is elite plus minus legendary Saveas at 120
any advice is more than welcome - still pretty new
woven lichen
@frozen wave yes Brutus can be a really good tank in front. Gorvo tends to jump out of position to stun enemies but then that leaves your backline exposed. Brutus would hold down the front and has invulnerability to tank for a longer duration
shell heron
I'm backkk
frozen wave
@woven lichen cool tyvm!! even elite brutus>elite+ Gorvo? i notice Gorvo not really being a great tank for me unless his stun syncs with everything else perfectly... hes kind of a wildcard in terms of reliability
pale kettle
Any suggestions?
frozen wave
also wondering - im close to being able to choose nemura/lucious etc from the assembly of heroes... should i go for second lucius, or first nemura??
woven lichen
@frozen wave Brutus can be a good hero at any ascension since his invulnerability buys you that amount of time regardless of how much damage enemies throw at him.... high ascension does allow you even more time though
frozen wave
ok duly noted! tyvvvm for your help @woven lichen
woven lichen
@shell heron so for this one, who does fawkes coffin? That side becomes less of a threat and you can try putting shemira there. If shemira can ult, should be a win.
If too much damage being taken still, can try wilder trio of Nemora/tasi, Arden, lyca since you have the charming and 2-3 roots which may allow shemira to ult
@frozen wave regarding Lucius or Nemora... I would pick Lucius since Nemora is a shop hero so you can always get more copies of her
shell heron
Morvus he coffins, I'll keep trying see what I can do
Then again Khasos kills him straight away so basically nobody lol, I'll switch it up though
frozen wave
@woven lichen ok cool beans, tyvvvvm!!
pale kettle
Guess everyone is busy to help me or give me some ideas, fair enough👏
frozen wave
Azrael, id help, but im new and have zero valuable input :/
woven lichen
@pale kettle what stage is that? Using wilder trio with Ferael and Nara?
pale kettle
@frozen wave thank you mate I appreciate that😉
@woven lichen lvl 28-2
frozen wave
lol just wanted you to know im here but not ignoring you - just have no advice for you as a hyper-nub compared to what youre working with 😄
pale kettle
@frozen wave haha thanks for that, If you needed any help as well, lemme know, I'll be happy to
woven lichen
@pale kettle I would have tried
Lyca
-tasi
Nara
-Nemora
Ferael
(Standard trio with lyca avoiding athalia and Nara keeping Arden busy.)
Evilz used a solution of
Rosa
-Lucius
Nara
-Rowan
Ferael
(More healing and stunning... Rosa always dodges athalia)
frozen wave
@pale kettle tyvm man. im always super appreciative of any help, if you feel like showing me the best ways of the jedi, im always all-ears 😄
i know its kind of off topic, but as an f2p player who is enjoying this game a lot so far, if i were to make ONE purchase, what would be the best bang for my buck? or just stay f2p and gain patience even though im an adult...? 😄 😄
frigid veldt
So I'm stuck on 25-44 for weeks now. It won't let me upload screen shots because it's telling me it's adult content lol
granite current
@frozen wave i saw somewhere it was the Advancment thingy
frozen wave
@granite current which shop would i find that in? lol
granite current
check pm 😄
frozen wave
awesome, tyvvvvvm!!
woven lichen
@frigid veldt no idea what your heroes are but here are references
subtle crow
Is there anything wrong with my line up? Or is it just the level not high enough
I tried replacing arden with shemira or wukong with hogan
woven lichen
@subtle crow try moving Nemora further down so she charms Belinda or morvus.
Otherwise you might be hitting a level issue
frigid veldt
@woven lichen thanks so much! First lineup took it down second try! So helpful!
frozen wave
from my nub experience, id def keep saveas and arden
pale kettle
@woven lichen worked perfectly, I slayed em all, TYVM, if you needed anything let me know
@frozen wave of course , It will be my pleasure to help or give you some advices whenever you needed them
frozen wave
@pale kettle much appreciated. if you want a look at my current team, im open to any advice 😄
pale kettle
Yeah absolutely, I dm you
pale kettle
I’m stuck at 15-40. Tried many lineups but can’t beat it. I think i can only idle now and try to get a good merc. Which one would you recommend?
night gorge
Lb tower 155, anyone got some advice?
lavish lichen
@woven lichen Yes, just wanting to switch from meta cause it's boring. Been using wilder trio + shemira for so long. Been wanting to use Ferael, but still find shemira doing more damage with her ults to make that change permanent.
granite current
Not sure what to change here (instead of belinda i usually put Tasi ) https://puu.sh/EZsn1/8ff5421018.png https://puu.sh/EZstQ/97d70fd891.png
woven lichen
@frigid veldt awesome job 👍
@pale kettle did you try
Arden
-shemira
Nemora
-Brutus
Lyca
(Nemora charms Ferael to scare own team, Brutus tanks front since invulnerability and no faction penalty unlike Lucius)
Could try Rosa over Arden too
@night gorge maybe fawkes or estrilda instead of hendrik to help reduce threat or build energy faster.... fawkes ult would help against Brutus invulnerability and warek shield too.... need a lot of good rng
night gorge
problem is i have no more mercs left for this week and my own fawkes + estrilda are super weak
woven lichen
@granite current try adding Brutus in front for more tanking. Using saveas instead of shemira as carry might help too
@night gorge who does fawkes trap? Can try putting Rosa and Belinda on the side with weaker threat
night gorge
takes brutus
wait
what ive never seen that happen, he just switched to targeting saf
frigid veldt
@woven lichen went from 25-44 to 25-54 with that same lineup. Stuck again but that's ok it's only been 5 minutes lol
night gorge
um so depending on where i put fawkes he either takes safiya or brutus
woven lichen
@frigid veldt lol nice work!
night gorge
anyway managed by targeting brutus and pushing the other side hard and manually using fawkes to dispel brutus ult. Thanks for the tip!
woven lichen
@night gorge cool nice! 😁
pale kettle
@woven lichen doesn’t work. I need rowan or lucius to survive a bit longer and even then, i get nuked.
woven lichen
@pale kettle if using Rowan... then I would try with fawkes and Rosa too... or maybe replace fawkes with Arden/Nemora
granite current
brutus dies instantly
the only thing i didnt really do is , upgrading gear, i mean , i saw on a guide to not waste to put at 3* equipment that is not mythic ( i have a mix of Purple and blue items, some are faction items) should i bother 3* them ?
raw turret
im hardstuck 14-40; am i just underleveled?
woven lichen
@granite current
Tasi
-Brutus
Nemora
-shemira
Arden
(Hopefully tasi banish/sleep, Arden root, and Nemora charm allows shemira to ult and win... if shemira can’t ult, then need more tanking)
@granite current not worth upgrading gear... if nothing else, might simply need more levels
granite current
ok ill try ^^
pale kettle
Okay thx. What exactly is the cause that my heroes struggle to full the energy bar and use their ulti?
woven lichen
@raw turret try Nemora instead of tasi to charm to mages and heal.... if still doesn’t work, try fawkes Rowan and Rosa in backrow... Rowan heals frontline and Rosa helps shemira ult twice
@pale kettle you are facing Ferael so his spirits decrease your energy... need fawkes ult to clear out spirits or charm Ferael to stop it to some degree
granite current
oh wow thanks, with some rng it worked 😮
woven lichen
@granite current 🙂👍
coarse dock
Stuck at 9-12 any suggestions on what I can do? I've had super bad luck with hero's :/
Been stuck there for a few days now >.<
pale kettle
@woven lichen i only pulled 1 fawkes so far 😩
green saffron
I’m guessing I’m missing a tank... I’m 7-8 btw legit any help/opinions would be greatly appreciated 😁
modest warren
Would prefer to save merc
pale kettle
Ty aesyr, beat the lvl.
woven lichen
@coarse dock hm you definitely have a more interesting mix of characters...
Try
Belinda
-ogi
Nemora
-ulmus
Silvina
(Silvina targets isabelle... Belinda top to focus on niru and Isabelle... Nemora charms niru or Isabelle)
@green saffron instead of leveling all heroes evenly, level up saveas the most by 20-40 levels. Can try pairing him with Brutus safiya Hogan and Rosa/mirael/Belinda
@modest warren if using Belinda, Rowan is helpful for healing and energy gen... can try replacing tasi or Nemora with Rowan. Nemora charming Arden at top could help to prevent rooting... but might need lyca then
coarse dock
@woven lichen it worked!! Thank you! Yeah I've had super bad luck with heroes :( keep getting the same ones or greens :( not a single "decent" one
Just wondering if i should reset them all and work with different ones? =/
wintry olive
What’s the best lineup for Soren?
pale kettle
send your roster @wintry olive
hexed shuttle
I have nemora and Shemira Elite at the moment. Would you spend the labyrinth coins on Nemora or Shemira? 😂
wintry olive
This here is my team.
raw turret
Can I also get some insight? @pale kettle for Wrizz too?
lavish lichen
Shemira. Every time until ascended
plush patrol
any tips for passing that on labyrinth?
storm veldt
Seems I want to ask what many other are asking too. Should I buy Nemora, Shamira or even khasos. I don’t really have a healer now but Izold is keeping himself up pretty well. I pulled Rowan but haven’t used him yet...
How important are faction bonuses? Should I try to stick to them or go all mixed?
winter matrix
@storm veldt Buy Shemira. After your Saveas stops carrying Shemira will take over. This is at Mythic and lvl 161+. Faction bonuses arent that important
pale kettle
@storm veldt buy Shemira until she's ascended
factions bonuses aren't as important as team comp and synergy
winter matrix
@storm veldt After u have enough Shemira for ascended go for Thoran and then for Nemora
pale kettle
@plush patrol you have three DPS heroes bro
actually, go for whoever you have the closest to ascended
storm veldt
Okay, feels my back line has a good synergy, but wu Kong is underperforming a bit.
plush patrol
@pale kettle Thats just me messing around with the lineup. I've tried Belinda/Rosa/Fawkes/Lucius/Saveas and tried swapping the first 3 for Lyca/Nemora/Arden
storm veldt
How do I use shemira? “Tank” with all the absorbs or keep in back line?
raw turret
i usually do the former; it helps if she's 161 and has good support behind her
digital warren
@storm veldt if your shemira is high Ascension you can use her in the front line, but I usually keep her in the back behind my lucius
woven lichen
@coarse dock your heroes aren’t awful either... so can keep if it is working... only changes you might make is to try saveas as carry... also don’t make too many legendary or legendary+ heroes... wait until you have another elite+ before making legendary so it can go to + right after and not be ascension blocked
Saveas and safiya can be a nice core
elfin warren
Is there much I can do rn to my line up?
pale kettle
why are you spreading your levels @elfin warren
elfin warren
Are you talking about Lucius and Eiron?
pale kettle
i'm talking about kelthur, Ezizh, and Ira
elfin warren
I didn't mean to, just didn't know who to lvl first at the time then realise I need dmg
Oh those were just early lvl guys I used then realised I don't want them
bright scaffold
Any ideas on a good team comp for Arena? I feel struggled and even lose against people with 200k less power sometimes..
raw flicker
Lineup suggestions? New to game, seem stuck at 6-6. Any tips much appreciated, assume I don't know most nuances yet <3
woven lichen
@elfin warren you should try saveas 20-40 levels over everyone else and pair him with Lucius Rowan mirael and estrilda
elfin warren
Oh so fully invest into Saveas for now? And no healer
woven lichen
@bright scaffold shemira Brutus/Lucius and tasi lyca and Nemora... should avoid making too many legendaries and focus on ascending. Bit tricky to make strong arena comps without more heroes for flexibility
@elfin warren Rowan’s potions and Lucius will heal for a lot already. Saveas also heals himself
elfin warren
Yeah that makes sense actually, also explains why I lack damage, my mirael isnt even purple though
pale kettle
Which characters should I invest in guys? (new player)
woven lichen
@raw flicker try Lucius Izold estrilda Belinda shemira..... or Lucius saveas Izold mirael estrilda
pale kettle
@pale kettle read some beginner guides
odd python
25-58, any suggestions?
raw flicker
Thanks @woven lichen I'll try those out
plush patrol
Any tips?
bright scaffold
Thank you @woven lichen I’ll keep it in mind and start looking to mythic+ my legendary+ heros first then 🙂
elfin warren
@woven lichen thanks for the help ^^
pale kettle
@pale kettle on it, however I posted here for a reason :)
woven lichen
@elfin warren sure. And even a lower level Mirael might be ok since she shields someone... saveas is the main damage dealer
@odd python not sure if it fits your heroes but
slim crow
How does this look
woven lichen
@odd python
As a note, might be fun trying something like
Tasi/Nemora
-Thoran
Shemira
-Arthur
Ferael
odd python
@woven lichen you reckon i can make the bottom one work with L+ tasi? i tried it before actually, im out of merc uses after 25-56 though lol
woven lichen
@odd python tasi is more for crowd control... so hopefully her banish and one or two sleeps is enough... definitely need more rng so she doesn’t die
odd python
i gave arthur a shot too but something killed the backliners extremely fast, i couldnt tell if its vurk or ferael
ill try the wilder shem ferael one for now, thanks for the suggestion
woven lichen
@plush patrol not sure if you have the right heroes to deal with it... could use nara to stop eironn’s vacuum but only saveas is strong enough to kill... guessing rest of the party melts to kaz and lyca too
@slim crow it is ok... 4 faction bonus... may want to replace Isabelle or shemira with more crowd control if stuck. Usually a hero like saveas 20-40 levels helps with progression from L61-160 too
dark juniper
Need help with this stage..
woven lichen
@pale kettle saveas 20-40 levels above usually works well as a carry from L61-160. Can pair him with Lucius Brutus mirael and estrilda or numisu... maybe throw in Arden tasi or Fawkes for crowd control
dark juniper
pale kettle
thanks! 🙂
woven lichen
@dark juniper
pale kettle
Is Belinda not worth investing into?
dark juniper
@woven lichen thanks i‘ll try it
woven lichen
@pale kettle she is but typically mirael is better from 1-160 due to shielding, wider aoe attack, and easier to ascend. L161-240 is better with shemira... L240+ Belinda is the best. However you can certainly still use Belinda at lower levels
dim slate
hi i come here because i'm stuck in this lvl , so if you have ideas ? it's 26-24 btw , thx 😉
woven lichen
@dim slate that looks like yukinari’s setup which you need a lot of rng... but could also try
Belinda
-Lucius
Rowan
-Brutus/Thoran
Fawkes
(More tanking to handle mirael and hopefully can take down shemira quickly)
dim slate
ok thx i will try it 🤔😋
shell heron
Stuck
river glen
General comp help for legends challenger tourney, basically trying to stack 2 teams, also who should I focus in the stores?
odd python
@woven lichen you are a miracle worker thanks again
jaunty flume
Just installed this game like yesterday need help stuck on 4-36
mossy ledge
Over level anbuis/saveas
idle girder
Your carry should be higher leveled then the others and I’d recommend saveas in this case and slowly built him up.hes gonna carry a lot early early chapters
jaunty flume
I tried over leveling saveas at 65 and the rest of my team was around level 40 and I got demolished even faster than 50s across
Maybe I’m doing it wrong ?
idle girder
What are you using as frontline ?
jaunty flume
Like that is how I had it setup
Maybe I’m just very under leveled ? I started yesterday
white birch
Floor 230 pls help ;-;
frigid veldt
@woven lichen anything for 25-60?
odd python
^
idle girder
@frigid veldt what’s ur lineup ?
@jaunty flume nah ur fine just keep retrying until our have a good pull
devout idol
Any tips ?
woven lichen
@frigid veldt @odd python as a reference can check https://t.me/dbafk with telegram for a database of screenshots
odd python
oh i dont have telegram
woven lichen
@devout idol
Fawkes
-Rosa
Rowan
-lucius
Belinda
(Hopefully fawkes dodges enough... otherwise need a tank like character such as hendrik or estrilda)
Alternatively
Fawkes
-Rosa
Gwyneth
-Lucius
Belinda/Rowan
shell heron
Bonjour
woven lichen
@shell heron who does fawkes coffin? May want to put Lucius on more dangerous side afterward. Can potentially use Brutus if Lucius can’t tank enough
shell heron
Vedan @woven lichen
woven lichen
@shell heron in that case, might be able to put shemira front instead of Rosa to take some damage and build ult faster before he is confined
shell heron
I'll put call on her then, thanks
placid summit
I’m stuck on 5-36 any help would be greatly appreciated
pliant shard
@dusty dock have you tried moving people around?
dusty dock
@pliant shard with the same lineup?
pliant shard
Yeah. I'd say move Nemora to back mid and swap the front spots. I can't tell you how many stages I've passed that's just based on position and rng
dusty dock
Ok I'll try
woven lichen
@placid summit try numisu or saveas instead of athalia... saveas 20-40 levels above everyone else is really strong for L61-160
@dusty dock if that doesn’t work, try numisu or thane/estrilda instead of Nemora for faction bonus. Since saveas isn’t overleveled, you can replace him with thane too.
dusty dock
@woven lichen thanks I'll try that, the one before didn't work no matter what I did
quaint phoenix
I need help with 24-14
woven lichen
@quaint phoenix could try swapping Rosa with shemira for dodging
quaint phoenix
When I do that Rosa gets 1 shot
woven lichen
@prime onyx silvina jumps on Rosa or mirael? If Rosa, can try the following
Hogan
-mirael
Brutus
-Rosa
Saveas
(Rosa should walk away and then stick to Brutus)
@quaint phoenix swap shemira and fawkes then... or...
Fawkes
-Rosa
Rowan
-Lucius
Shemira
(Make Rosa walk further away)
quaint phoenix
On the second comp pic you posted do you think Lucius would be better than Estrilda?
woven lichen
@quaint phoenix can try. Estrilda is nice for raising attack and energy. But a tank is ok too... mainly want shemira to ult
prime onyx
Thanks Aesyr, I also have the options in ascension with E+ saveas/golus/tidus and hogan/mirael/belinda. What do you recommend?
quaint phoenix
Okay i'll just try that comp then
woven lichen
@prime onyx saveas Hogan and mirael are nice since easy to keep ascending. Don’t use ascended units as fodder though
dark juniper
@woven lichen finished chapter 22 thanks to your help
prime onyx
Alright cheers
topaz tangle
Anyone have ideas for Kings Tower 285?
woven lichen
@dark juniper congratulations 😁👍
sly cobalt
Help?
shell heron
Stuck
proud maple
Just got belinda+ as 7 day reward. Would it be better to level her to legendary or level Etrilda+ to legendary and then legendary+?
lusty tide
Keep everything the way it is. Stop making them legendary unless you can make then L+
pale kettle
teal glade
King's tower 297 is a painnnn. Removing shem and using the belinda carry improved a lot and got me here.
Nvm shuffled rosa to 2nd tank and swapped belinda rowan to fawkes shem
woven lichen
@sly cobalt try fawkes instead of Belinda for some crowd control. Mainly need shemira to ult... could try Rosa if you have her too... shemira might be able to survive in front to build energy faster after fawkes coffins someone
@proud maple best to upgrade units that can go to L+ only or you might be stuck waiting for more hero copies similar to your Lucius or Brutus. Estrilda is a shop hero so you can always get more copies too
@pale kettle try hogan and fawkes/gwyneth instead of antandra and gorvo... faction bonus for more hp and atk
@shell heron you might be hitting a wall due to low levels... but if lb doesn’t work, try wilder trio
shell heron
@woven lichen Yeah I guess, should I keep leveling Shemira to 180? Or focus on others now.
random apex
I’m hella stuck on 11-40 I’ve tried everything I could think of and I keep getting destroyed, was wondering if anybody had any ideas
willow terrace
26-58 if anyone ever needs
woven lichen
@shell heron keep leveling shemira as much as possible... can make her tank in front if oveeleveled enough and as long as she survives to ult... you win
@random apex can try Brutus instead of estrilda for tanking if front is dying to fast. Potentially could do Rosa instead of Nemora for more ult too
dusty dock
@woven lichen thanks for the tip! I made it through
night gorge
Any input here?
sweet crane
Need desperate help on this stage
night gorge
@woven lichen
Lucius has a hard time stabilizing and belinda is very fragile as well
odd python
@night gorge try
belinda/shem
lucius
athalia
brutus
nemora
i somehow managed to skip screenshotting only this stage but i was using the exact same comp (safiya as my carry instead of belinda/shem) for all the stages around it so its probably the same
woven lichen
@night gorge hm you could maybe try the standard shemira/Isabelle with wilder trio and Brutus. Brutus would stabilize bottom. Tasi should banish shemira or Belinda. Shemira could silence one of them. Nemora could charm... and hopefully get an ult or two off.
Otherwise can try using tasi/fawkes instead of athalia in your current setup
@drifting locust is the issue due to not being able to tank front or ult? Could try estrilda instead of Belinda or shemira to boost attack and energy. Rosa might be useful too
haughty aurora
Need help to improve my damage dealt to soren, I get about 100-200m with this lineup right now
willow terrace
26-60 if anyone ever needs. Just finished it
drifting locust
@woven lichen rosa will link with lucius
@woven lichen my line up is not strong enough, they all die very fast
teal glade
Kt 300 cancer
sly cobalt
Help?
odd python
@teal glade
teal glade
@odd python just ended up completing it after resetting enough times. Then 2 shot 301 right after. The key was putting call on shemira to get a quick double ult rather than blade
tidal solar
21-10... 10k dust from 200 on the rest... any ideas or just wait?
restive tundra
Any advice on how I could clear this? The power difference isn't even huge neither is this a boss stage,Yet can't seem to beat it with any hero combination
naive kite
Having trouble with my lineup now, not sure if I just need to afk a lot or if another team will be better. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated
Currently using
Rosaline
Estrilda
Rowan
Lucious
Belinda
tidal solar
Rufus use saveas as a burst dps or get a fawkes. Might also need to wait on levels too.
green saffron
@woven lichen I know it’s a bit late but just read what u said now 😅 tysm
bronze veldt
Not sure who or which one to build atm, any help would be appreciated!
naive kite
@tidal solar my saveus is only legendary tho and capped at 140
woven lichen
@tidal solar try Rosa instead of Belinda.
@restive tundra try Brutus instead of gorvo for more tanking. Maybe Belinda instead of thane
@inland oar top 5 is ok but saveas is great from L61-160 especially if overleveled by 20-40 levels
ember abyss
Hey everyone! Is Safiya any good? Also, what's her main role in the game and who should I put her with?
woven lichen
@bronze veldt try saveas mirael Brutus skreg and tasi (3 mauler faction bonus)
Saveas
-Brutus
Mirael
-skreg
Tasi
@ember abyss belongs in #classic-questions but she is a dps and can pair with maulers, eironn, or energy gen support heroes
bronze veldt
@woven lichen thank you!
violet bone
pale kettle
violet bone
Who do yall think would have the best synergy for this team?
pale kettle
Any suggestions?
I tried this formation, and my FL heroes died in less than 5secs
pale kettle
@royal notch what level is that?
royal notch
14-40
pale kettle
@@royal notch try this
Lyca
-brutus
Saveas
-arden
Tasi
@royal notch
Or
Lyca
-Shemira
Tasi
-brutus
Arden
royal notch
No Arden, I don’t have one built up
tawdry lichen
@royal notch Maybe try switching Arden with silviana?
worthy bane
@pale kettle How does Athalia over Nemora perform for that stage? And possibly Nara over Tasi/Lyca, or even Fera
pale kettle
@worthy bane you just need to keep the opponent distracted, and let the other heroes do the fight
Arden in this case is useful due to his roots skill
Nemora or Nara I dont think it does anyth, it won't effect mostly 90%
You gotta be very lucky
worthy bane
@pale kettle Fair. I'm unsure how chapter 29+ fights go. Nara would be good into the Fera, Khasos, Or Brutus, and same towards athalia, and adds two control heros as well. I think Eironn with some sig investment could help massively
pale kettle
@worthy bane I have tried almost every possible formation😅😅, I don't know what I'm doing wrong
However, I'm only stuck here for like 30 mins only, so I have other options I can think of
Such as your suggestion, cuz you know lately in +20 chapters, things becomes randomly you never know why you lose a level, and never understand how you win×_×
white dagger
worthy bane
My setup would defintely be
Tasi
Brutus
Nara
Eironn/Fereal
Athalia
That's just what would work logically
@pale kettle
pale kettle
@worthy bane let me give it a try
teal glade
Fawkes or tasi for pvp
pale kettle
@worthy bane tried them both, both worked
I'm having issues with Flb any hero I put there, dies almost instantly
teal glade
Brutus thoran front wouldn't last would they?
tawdry lichen
I’m 20 minutes off 250 so I might just wait then throw myself at this floor again
pale kettle
@Persephone (24-15 KT 303)#5412 I've tried it before , they last but I lose eventually
teal glade
What about coupling those 2 with a fawkes athalia ferael backline? Would allow you to remove the khasos (I'm guessing) and dive the ferael while negating saveas healing
pale kettle
@teal glade in this case if you noticed, athalia will be the first to die, than khasos & brutus will clean all the rest easily
teal glade
Like you said. Weird things happen 20+. The amount of Times my athalia "should have died" only to magically take 0 dmg for almost 30seconds is bizarre.
pale kettle
@Persephone (24-34 KT 304) exactly
@teal glade you never know what will happen
When you expect to win ,you lose and the opposite.
For mercenaries:
when you need help, you dont find it
When you find help, you dont need 😅😅
ripe garnet
help on 16-36 please
next heart
Hello, any advice for my team ? Im hardstuck on both modes
violet igloo
As a general tip, do not ascend heroes from E+ to Legendary if you don't have another E+ copy of the hero to ascend straight after to L+. Right now you have used lots of fodder for some heroes that could be stuck at L for a long time. If you haven't done it yet, I would highly suggest reading the guides pinned in #classic-questions 🙂 let me look at your hero box
what chapter are you at ? @next heart
next heart
11-23 and 143 floor
violet igloo
Since you can't ascend Saveas and your probably close to chap 13, I would suggest using in that case Belinda as your carry.
Belinda
Lucius
Estrilda
Brutus
Nemora
Here Estrilda/Nemora can be changed, but it's nice to have faction bonus. If you haven't you can read the guide pinned in this channel aswell
bronze veldt
Should I reset Grezhul for Brutus?
limpid quail
@bronze veldt for what purpose? you can put him in the crystal as well
sweet crane
Please help me on this stage
bronze veldt
@limpid quail I wanted to change my line up, I sent a pic of my heroes earlier, someone recommended I change all 5 so haha
limpid quail
@bronze veldt just put him in the crystal then
bronze veldt
Okie thanks! 
next heart
@violet igloo doesnt work but ty
sweet crane
@limpid quail any help you can offer?
fleet hawk
timber dawn
hello everybody! Any recommendations for a team comp?
pliant herald
Hmm i recommend atleast belinda in your team and brutus for tank the other are up to you. The reason i chose belinda is for dps and brutus for tanking and aoe damage. Note this opinion is from a lv 34 guy
timber dawn
@pliant herald any tipps are Welcome! :)
limpid quail
@sweet crane try
wukong
lucius
arden
brutus
saveas
sweet crane
Best outcome so far, can never kill nemora in time she always ults with a nick of hp
limpid quail
@fleet hawk can try
nemora
estrilda
arden
shemira
lyca
@pliant herald always overlevel you carry and level the highest ascended heroes. put the ones to use in the crystal
valid musk
What team should I try to build or push further? I'm not sure who to ascend and what heroes I should be gambling for
limpid quail
@timber dawn always overlevel you carry and level the highest ascended heroes. put the ones to use in the crystal
pliant herald
@limpid quail wait what i need in the crystal? So like my main team just put onto the crystal
timber dawn
@limpid quail In my Case Belinda isnt it?
pliant herald
Also which of them that i should overlevel
limpid quail
@pliant herald lucius for example, he is capped at 100, but when you level mirael, you can level to 120 and lucius will get 120 in the crystal as well
pliant herald
Oooo
limpid quail
@timber dawn belinda or saveas. i tend towards saveas as he is easier to ascend cause he only needs blue copies
@pliant herald belinda, kelthur, mirael would work well to overlevel
timber dawn
@limpid quail Thank you for the advice!
pliant herald
Owh, welp thank you for helping me and the community @limpid quail
sweet crane
@limpid quail it's not working out saveas and Brutus almost never can kill vedan in time, if I give my best gear to him that's in Lucius I can kill vedan but Lucius dies before casting his shield, feeling like wukong is not doing anything here might be because he has the worst gear out of the 3 str
limpid quail
@sweet crane when you feel like he is doing nothing replace wukong with nemora or estrilda then. you can check the battle recap to see how much damage he dealt. vedan should die before he ults
sweet crane
@limpid quail just won, wanna know how? i took out arden and put rosa to support saveas and help me kill vedan, i started the fight and she glued to lucius..., ended up having an immortal team hahahah
think im even gonna replace saveas and put shemira, shell be op on this immortal team
subtle talon
Can someone help me? 🙂
true forge
Is it better to go for wukong in the lab store now for a new acc or still shemira nemora?
violet igloo
@subtle talon can we see your hero box ?
plain kernel
Any feedback on my current set of heroes and/or assistance with this current boss would be appreciated!
violet igloo
@true forge 100% Shemira, only buy her.
@plain kernel Hello 🙂 You should use Saveas as your main DPS, you can even ascend him to E.
Your lineup can be :
Saveas
Hogan
Nemora
Lucius
Wukong/Estrilda
Make sure to overlevel your Saveas compared to other heroes, he has to have 20+ levels than other heroes
subtle talon
@violet igloo
violet igloo
@subtle talon Your account is still quite fresh and new, you have time to open more heroes. A good hero to have as DPS is Saveas (mauler hero) because he's super strong and you can open him in packs consistently since he's rare. Also in Lab shop, only buy Shemira. I would try and focus on Saveas, get him to E, you will do it eventually you just need to open more packs. As of right now, to suggest a line up, well you can go
Numisu
Brutus
Tasi
Wukong
Rosa/Vedan/Estrilda
Ideally you'd want a Saveas it would fit quite well since you have Brutus
subtle talon
@violet igloo ok, ty very much 🙂 and y account is one day old ^^
violet igloo
@subtle talon no problem. If you are new I strongly recommend to read the guides pinned in #classic-questions it'll really help. And welcome to the game ! You have an amazing journey ahead of you : D
violet igloo
@subtle talon until you have Seaveas, you can try to overlevel Vedan
bronze veldt
Should I put Brutus in the crystal or level him up manually? I just recently got him, the same question with Tasi
limpid quail
@bronze veldt crystal, they are both capped at lvl100 and can reach higher levels when in the crystal
winter matrix
If the pentagram is full of E+ people dont
bronze veldt
Thank you
limpid quail
@pale kettle top 5 is normally your main carry and the ones you have the copies to go for A. the rest of your lineup is in the crystal
pale kettle
Yeye i know. I just wonder what i should play in Story and stuff. My 5 best light heroes for 25% Bonus or if i should put shemira in maybe soon on red?
violet igloo
@pale kettle I would use Shemira as main carry as soon as you can ascend her. Keep buying her in Lab. Gwyneth is a good carry, but she shines more in late game. Shemira'll be much much stronger. Then you'll be able to do the classic meta comp :
Shemira
Brutus/lucius
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora
@pale kettle if you haven't I highly recommend reading the guide pinned in this channel : )
glossy pagoda
Well with ur lbs, lb +shem will be good too, just remember that wilders exist if u really need cc and some retries to beat a stage
old ridge
SEND HELP floor 300
tranquil fjord
Hey, some advise for this boss please ?
got 2 spot in cristal soon
abstract mountain
Need good Soren lineup. Can somebody help?
limpid quail
@abstract mountain shemira, lucius, baden, rosa, rowan
rose ember
Shemira for DPS, Baden to turn him around, rowan twins and rosalina for energy shennanigans
west drum
Any advice for progressing? Front liners are just dying in seconds
limpid quail
@tranquil fjord reset 1 hero to overlevel your carry. you only need to level 5 heroes ever
tranquil fjord
@limpid quail yes I hesitated between Saveas and arden for the reset, I was waiting to see which one I could go into legendary
limpid quail
@tranquil fjord reset eironn or tasi, both saveas and arden are easy to ascend since they are legendary tier
abstract mountain
@limpid quail Thanks for Soren setup
tranquil fjord
@limpid quail ok thanks 😉
limpid quail
@abstract mountain can also try the one from lupa
abstract mountain
Will do that now and will check results
@rose ember Thx but in this lineup I gained half damage less to Soren but anyway thx
rose ember
strange i easily go above the 100 M threshold with that for quite a bit now
abstract mountain
wow nice but my twins are not so high
With your lineup i made 45kk damage with Fultsch 80 kk maybe it depends on luck?
rose ember
more like bad luck. Sometimes the minions from baden die with bad timing. But my twins are only e+, baden is e+, rosa was L+ and rowan L when i first got above the 100M (shemira is a+4 tho) and i think i had all of them at eitehr 240 or shem at 240 rest 220 can't really recall when i first made it
abstract mountain
Oh I will try it tomorrow again
heady wave
How the hell I beat this
bright scaffold
@heady wave
I have almost the same heroes as you, and mostly i go with Shemira + Brutus or lucius
And Nemora, Tasi and Lyca.
if that doesn't work try putting a fawkes or arden in somewhere and switch them around a bit 😄
umbral creek
Niru isn’t in my formation, got him ascended today, do i add him and which hero do i replace him with
bright scaffold
Niru carried me through alot of stages so I'd definetly keep him around!
limpid quail
@umbral creek you dont have to use him, but reset wukong and level him instead he has a higher level cap
vale wasp
Hi, any advice? I usually run wilder + shemira + Brutus but can't find a working setup here
Stage 21-26
bright scaffold
@winter matrix I’ll put it here cuz it should be I think so what should I replace my Raine with?
limpid quail
@mystic rampart friend requests only in #mercenary
violet bone
Fifth character?
winter matrix
@bright scaffold I'd go with
Rosaline
Lucius
Brutus/Estrilda
Shemira
Belinda
bright scaffold
I'll try that then thanks 🙂
open kernel
Any way I might be able to beat this? Enemy Saveas dodges half my attacks but I can get him low.
primal bridge
21-4 it's been almost a week.
opal gulch
@primal bridge
@primal bridge E lyca, gorvo, mehira, tasi is enough. Lyca just needs good equipments for dodge
pale kettle
is it worth upgrading saveas to the maximum? or h scales off on pve. also should I dump khasos
limpid quail
@pale kettle yes overlevel you carry, and level you highest ascended heroes to raise the level cap of your crystal. you may want to have a read on the guides in the pinned messages here and in #classic-questions
winter matrix
Yes. Saveas at 160 will carry to chapter 14. after that he will be replaced with Shemira
pale kettle
thank you
limpid quail
also these kind of question fit more in the #classic-questions channel. this channel is more when you need help with you linieup for specific stages
pale kettle
but the guide advised me to upgrade nemora first so I'll probably get shemira fragments
graceful pendant
Shimera is vital in my opinion
winter matrix
Yes. Buy Shemira from lab, then Thoran and Nemora last
graceful pendant
focus all tokens on her
limpid quail
1 nemora is ok to start with, you only need her at E to work. but shemira is a carry and you want her at the highest level possible for maximum damage output
pale kettle
thanks to everyone who helped 
echo bloom
Just got enough saveas to L+, switched carry from Belinda to him, what's my best lineup now showed what I'm using and what j have available
limpid quail
@echo bloom you want talene front to let her explode when she is reborn. other than that an arden always fits well at those levels
echo bloom
so drop brutus and put talene in front? and replace brutus with arden??
uneven pewter
I‘m stuck, could a different lineup do something here? Please help.
limpid quail
@echo bloom either brutus or lucius or even talene and use both tanks front. you have to try it out depneding on enemy formations
@uneven pewter shemira front for faster ults, and talene is also better up front when she is reborn she explodes for area damage. you can try
rosa
shemira
rowan
lucius/brutus/talene
talene/fawkes/belinda
inland oar
can’t beat that :/
hot bison
narrow junco
open kernel
I found it very hard to face Kaz without a solid tank and healing. She just plows through to your backline carries otherwise... Not much help but that's my $0.02
lofty depot
@narrow junco
Saveas
Hogan
Gorvo
Wu-kong/Izold
Mirael (not sure what to put here)
Maybe try that
stable shale
im stuck 
which unit i should level on ?
and added to resonating crystal ?
currently on 8-12
spare crypt
winter matrix
@spare crypt I think I used
Fawkes
Lucius
Arden/Rowan
Shemira
Belinda/Nemora
subtle talon
Mby for this one and in general, got a punch of new heroes ä, some lineup advice? 🙂 ty
winter matrix
@subtle talon 1st off only level your top five heroes!. So u can reset Arden, Nara and the other lvl 2s. For a lineup I'd use
Numisu
Wukong
Tasi
Brutus
Rosaline
subtle talon
@winter matrix y Need 70 for x10 after that i’ll reset them 🙂 no Lucius? Just saw he is pretty strong in general 🙂
winter matrix
Oh, just noticed that you have a Lucius. Yea u should do
Numisu
Lucius
Wukong
Brutus
Rosaline
If u feel like something else works, you can try that. This lineup is just what I think would work
winter matrix
Yea. If u Get Saveas u have to overlevel him as he is the best solo carry in early game. When saveas is lvl 160 he will carry you to chapter 14
subtle talon
Perfekt, tyvm 🙂
winter matrix
frigid veldt
@woven lichen i looked through the Telegram thing and had no luck finding it. Any suggestions on 26-12?
woven lichen
@frigid veldt there is a search when you click on the top but here are the references
wicked pelican
i'd appreciate some help with 23-24 👀 i can get another merc instead of lucius if that'll help
umbral creek
Got niru ascended, do i put him in my formation? If yes then who should i replace him with?
delicate trout
@wicked pelican i've finish 23-24 today. with this line up
fawkes
lucius
rowan
shemi
brutus
i've tried so much, but this line up literally make me go through
noble turtle
delicate trout
ch-20...
i usually use wilders trio + shemi + luci/brutus
errant minnow
Any idea for a Merc that could help?
delicate trout
almost work everytime on ch-23 unless 23-24 and 26 @errant minnow
errant minnow
I could try ferael ty
astral tinsel
open crystal
Would anyone be willing to help a noob with some general teambuilding? This is what I have currently
astral tinsel
ok so for some reason i cant send the pic of my line up
Any help or advice is sccepted thabks
bright geyser
I'm struggling to keep a strong defense in HoE and Legends, I can easily keep 3rd place on my server with a certain lineup but I'd like some strong info on who synergies with who, please and thanks
lofty depot
@pale kettle
Shem/Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca/Shem
Nemora/Arden
If you don't need Nem/Arden my favorite lineup is:
Tasi
Shem
Mehira
Brutus
Lyca
@pale kettle
pale kettle
Thankyou so much ❤ @lofty depot
stable shale
rugged niche
any1?
stable shale
which lightbearer to ascend ?
calm pulsar
@stable shale Hogan for tanking or mirael for dps
@rugged niche post a ss of your heroes?
rugged niche
calm pulsar
heroes tab, not stage pic
late gyro
Any tips?
rugged niche
Dood
calm pulsar
@rugged niche
Arden
---Brutus
Lyca
---shemira
Tasi
Tasi banishes fawkes before he coffins your carry
Arden roots saveas brutus and athalia
rugged niche
Still hard af athalia is op af
umbral creek
do i add niru to this formation and who do i replace him with
serene basin
Mauler 114, no merc available, silivina just stuns safiya if I use her, or I put in the totem guy in aswell but nara still makes it impossible
woven lichen
@serene basin so you could put safiya for vurk and simply have numisu act as bait for silvina.
serene basin
Yeah that's what I meant, but that still doesn't stop much
woven lichen
@serene basin you may want to move khasos on top so he tosses at most of the enemies including niru and estrilda
serene basin
the other issue is that niru just deletes everyone and wont die
astral tinsel
Help with my setup just started yesterday
serene basin
what ive been trying to do, is put in order brutus skreg front, then khasos, numisu safiya so that numisu will get pulled by nara but that deosnt stop her for long
oak lance
floor 280 anyone? This kt is killing meee
serene basin
ive got my best gear on khasos, then brutus, then skreg, then safiya and numisu,
rugged ice
calm pulsar
@astral tinsel setup isn't important at those levels. make sure to focus on L tier heroes (heroes with 3 skills) and get them to L+ first (save the heroes with 4 skills till then) effective way is to overlevel your carry such as saveas,mirael or vedan(one of them) and the rest should be tanks/supports such as hogan,niru,golus and some others such as silvina,arden,morvus
pale kettle
Help me to build formation pls. I’m stuck between Wilder and Mauler
stray roost
astral tinsel
@calm pulsar yea in trying to do that but im stuck at lvl 5-30
@calm pulsar dont know the terms in this game yet so
calm pulsar
@astral tinsel btw, dont level more than 5 heroes at once.
astral tinsel
@calm pulsar ye i learned that tha hard way
calm pulsar
@pale kettle formation isn't important at those levels. make sure to focus on L tier heroes (heroes with 3 skills) and get them to L+ first (save the heroes with 4 skills till then) effective way is to overlevel your carry such as saveas,mirael or vedan(one of them) and the rest should be tanks/supports such as hogan,niru,golus and some others such as silvina,arden,morvus.
you should have at least one hero from every faction (wilder,mauler,lightbearer,graveborn)
pale kettle
my brain hurt
Can you just tell me a team that you think is good?
astral tinsel
I have 250k of those blue orbs should i upgrade saveas
calm pulsar
@astral tinsel yes
@pale kettle they are all good. Saveas and the other 4 doesn't matter. (any of them: hogan,mirael,morvus,ogi,arden,silvina,vedan)
astral tinsel
So i lvled up my saveas to 75 should i continue or lvl up my others
severe shuttle
Need a little help here...
viscid crypt
I just realized I can pick a faction to pull. Which would you pick with what I have pulled so far? I bought the Shimera as my 1st Lab purchase
astral tinsel
So after i upgrade my saveas i cant upgrade him anymore
Do i need to upgrade my others to lvl 60 for him to be upgraded again?
white birch
Yes @astral tinsel
vale kraken
Pretty sure saveas is bad before he hits 101 or sumthin, unless u got external source of heals
astral tinsel
I just started yesterday and dont know who to upgrade and just went with wat people tokd me and upgraded saveas
lofty depot
@astral tinsel you can just keep upgrading him.
Saveas
Hogan
Tasi
Wu-kong
Arden/Gorvo
That's a lineup you could use for now. You'll probably get better heroes soon enough but I'm just going from what you have now. Arden doesn't get very good until level 81 though. And Gorvo should be replaced with Lyca/Nemora when you get them. Wu-kong could be replaced with Lucius and Hogan you can keep until you get him to L+ and fodder him into another tank later on
deft forum
@astral tinsel Legendary+. It's one step above L.
@astral tinsel another piece of advice I heard somewhere in other channel is that generally your Saveas should 20-30 lvl above the rest.
I leveled my Saveas up to lvl 100 cap and the rest is picking up at 69-75.
pale kettle
This is what I managed to do so far
Do you have any suggestions about artifacts or heroes themselves?
deft goblet
I need help clearing this 21-51... I've Merc available so please advise if I need to hire a certain Merc. Thank you.
astral tinsel
@deft forum ok thanks so much
drowsy wyvern
I’m thinking of feeding my Saveas to my Brutus. I’m stuck in ch.17. Who should I replace him with?
astral tinsel
Is it worth resetting a hero
wintry birch
yes
astral tinsel
Who should i do it to in my line up
inland kite
First of all, you want your 5 most ascended heroes leveled up, the rest goes in the crystal. Reset niru ira and mirael
If you dont use the others, reset gorvus and skreg
Then at least get the highest ones you use to 61
astral tinsel
But idk who to use in my current line and who should i reset
Do i lvl up hogan for skreg
inland kite
Hm, Imo, saveas, wung mo, tasi, estrilda and gorvus
Skreg is hard to get copies for, if you end up getting eextra copies and they get higher, then its only 20 diamonds to reset
You just want your highest ascended heroes leveled up as I said so just reset as you go
And dont try to go in the middle like you did with saveas, like with my team I stopped them after 61
inland kite
Just go with what I said
astral tinsel
Im stuck 5-31 against brutus
astral tinsel
Soo should i just keep skreg and reset the rest
inland kite
Look at what I said, the first two points
astral tinsel
Ok ok
inland kite
Ye skreg is hard to getcopies for, but say you do and he ends up higher ascended, you can reset someone else after 5 heroes
astral tinsel
Thanks im just confused with this game just started yesterday
inland kite
You're fine, one big tip is dont get aascended happy, look at the heroes and if they can go to the white color you dont ever want to fodder them
Save your gems only for the epic stone and 10 summons in the store
astral tinsel
What does fodder mean idk the terms in this game yet
inland kite
Sacrifice basically
astral tinsel
Ohh ok ok
inland kite
If you look under portrait, you see those ascended ones, you dont ever want to sacrifixe those to get others up, only legendary and below
astral tinsel
Thanks so much
sonic nebula
Is Belinda better than mirael?Just got her e+ I’m using mirael, Rosaline, Rowan, Lucius and eatrilda atm for 5 lightbringer. do I have a better comp?
inland kite
Say you got a legendary Belinda and two epic belindas, dont sacrifice for legendary plus
odd python
@astral tinsel to make it extremely simple, 3 skill heros bad 4 skill heroes good
inland kite
You need it for ascended
astral tinsel
Thanks so much guys
inland kite
Of course ^.^ and with labryinth never buy the rare stones unless you have shemira and nemora ascended
odd python
but keep in mind this is NOT always the case, most 3 skill heroes are good up till lv 160 and saveas and arden are the two main ones still useful after lv 160 (for a bit)
inland kite
It's just from labryinth and the bootcamp and doing the labryinth a few times
But make sure you only buy shemira or nemora, dont buythe others
And its recmmended to stick to one until ascended
pale kettle
@inland kite Saveas isn't good in either
inland kite
Hes been fine for me in both
errant belfry
Is there any particular lineups that do the best damage on the guild missions?
inland kite
For early game no matter what, hes good .
pale kettle
@errant belfry depends on your roster
odd python
@errant belfry post your hero roster
errant belfry
pale kettle
@errant belfry
Shemira, Lucius, Rosa, Raine, Brutus imo
errant belfry
Awesome, thanks!
shell hamlet
Does anyone have mauler tower floor 80 saved?
Pls @ me with a lineup so i get the notification thank you
amber kestrel
Advice?
gleaming nacelle
Help please
odd python
@amber kestrel
sonic nebula
Best line up? Or people to change levels in?
floral minnow
@sonic nebula i would try lucius/brutus in front and belinda rosa saveas in back maybe (overlever saveas)
raw turret
which dudes are my best bet for faction tower?
cursive cradle
@restive mauve Thanks again. Beat brutal citadel with a mythic+ merc Khasos. Last 60th floor.
nova elk
One week old account. Currently on ch. 7-8. Need advice on who to reset, level, and run as best team for progress. Thanks!
pale kettle
I get nuked every time before lucius and the others can ulti. And luc never does his blessed shield for whatever reason except if i put him on back line.
amber kestrel
@odd python ty
copper mica
220 Lucius and Fawkes, 240 Lucius or 240 fawkes ?
supple condor
tbh id say 240 lucius, fawkes wont matter as much unless youre using him as a dodge tank primarily
inland kite
round cedar
Should I ascend hogan to legendary or leave him?
stoic ore
Who should I be pushing to 100 next? https://i.gyazo.com/61377cb451db9f1d59e52e33c9f4f4af.png
shell heron
Stuck
teal glade
Closest I've gotten on 24-38.
charred compass
I need someone to bless me with some advice :) I manage to ascend my Shakira today :D who would I be working on next? An also what's a good line up for me ATM in arena?
pale kettle
Is this a good lineup
Any1 pls tell me
@charred compass Level your shem to 161. that’s when she becomes a beast. Then give the shem/rosa combo a try, worked pretty well for me. And don’t ascend to many heroes from same faction. You should’ve used the fodder on luc first i think. A strong tank has high priority after your carry, which in your case is shem. After that come the supports.
And don’t forget to over-level your carry.
charred compass
@pale kettle ah I see. Whoops.. looks like my light units r in shambles ;-; ripppp
pale kettle
I’m not an expert regarding lineups but try this for example: Luc, Shem front and Estrilda, Rowan, Rosa back.
Rowan in the middle.
astral tinsel
Who should i buy in lab store nemora or shemira
jolly wolf
when in doubt, buy Shemira, but one nemora is nice to have at some point, it'll help if people know what your current roster of heroes is though
pale kettle
Is this a good lineup
jolly wolf
I'm inclined to say Nemora for your team, but I'd wait for some other opinions before you spend lab coins. Given your roster, it appears that Nemora would fit in better currently, but Shemira is a carry that literally will get you through many many chapters. You will eventually get both for free at some point though.
astral tinsel
Yea im stuck at 5-32 tho
pale kettle
Pls
astral tinsel
Cant beat brutus with my current team
jolly wolf
@pale kettle if you're not having any trouble then any line-up is fine, i'm inclined to say that Lucius and Estrilda in front for your current two is better since you're facing LB and Maulers have a disadvantage against LBs
pale kettle
Ok
jolly wolf
what team are you running currently? @astral tinsel
astral tinsel
Should i just wait or will shemira carry through campaign
The ones that are highest lvls the ones above
jolly wolf
Shemira will carry you once you get past lvl 160 or you get a Rosaline to pair with her
160 is quite a ways off from where you are in chapter 5, so depending on how fast you plan to progress, you might be able to get a nemora now and worry about Shemira later
but you have to keep in mind that...in general you will only be able to buy one copy of a hero in the lab store per month as a F2P or low P2P player
astral tinsel
Yea idk what hero to get i keep on getting stuck with bosses that are hard to fight in chapter 5
jolly wolf
and getting past 160 requires a couple of copies
are you putting Wu Kong in front of Brutus?
astral tinsel
Im a free to play player i think for now lol
Yea i put wukong vs brutus and saveas in middle
astral tinsel
Would you recommend me a team that i can use to get past campaign
jolly wolf
there's a crystal, and it allows you to place heroes on it, and those heroes will have the same level as the lowest of your top 5 heroes
astral tinsel
Oh yea i can use that too i forgot
jolly wolf
yeah you're wasting XP and other resources that you could be using to overlevel your top 5 lol
elfin warren
Who should I buy from lab store?
pale kettle
Shemira maybe?? Idk
astral tinsel
So should i just keep using the wukong saveas tasi estrilda and skreg
jolly wolf
@pale kettle if you must use Shemira, you can try Lucius/Wukong front and Numisu, Safiya, Shemira back
@astral tinsel probably fine for now, you'll get a E+ Belinda on your 7th day I believe
and she'll probably be the best DPS for quite some time
astral tinsel
Ok thanks
jolly wolf
@elfin warren I think your team should be good for most of the early game, so yeah I'd suggest investing in the long term and getting Shemira
elfin warren
Okay thanks for the help ^^
pale kettle
@jolly wolf getting bukaked in campaign 😂
elfin warren
And yeah my team has been doing pretty decent, Lucius and Rowan are really good supports together for me with the Merial shield
jolly wolf
@pale kettle lol at the point where you are, you might have to just level up lol
@elfin warren yep! just wait to get your E+ Belinda on your 7th day, hope for another Belinda from draws or something and you'll have a DPS that can easily last you quite some time
elfin warren
I did have an E+ Belinda but I did a mistake and used her to ascend Rowan
jolly wolf
oh, whoops i guess lol
elfin warren
Yeah since she was a started character I assumed she was good but with the way my team was I wasn't going to need her, like other gacha games but guess I was wrong
Though idk how I would even slot her in this team, maybe instead of Mirael
jolly wolf
just keep in mind, any hero in the ascended section of the portraits should not be foddered
elfin warren
Oh really, okay I'll keep that in mind, is that cos they can be used as niche characters for certain bosses?
jolly wolf
even if you're desperate, it's not a good idea because you'll eventually need ascended quality heroes to break level caps
basically the quality of the hero determines the max level of your heroes
elfin warren
Right, I didn't know that, thanks for the info.
jolly wolf
ascended heroes (white quality) are necessary to get past level 200
and you'll need at least 5 of them to eventually break the 240 cap
elfin warren
Alright I got you
jolly wolf
that's way way down the line (like chapter 23 or beyond) but yeah it'll take you forever to get to ascended (you need 10 copies of a hero to get there) so it's important to plan ahead
elfin warren
Ahh I see, glad to hear there is giga late game content in this game then. Again thanks a lot
jolly wolf
no problem! good luck with progress!
jolly wolf
yes, at your point in the game definitely
elfin warren
Anything to save gems for in the future
jolly wolf
also, if you are planning to spend money, get the advancement award package
it's by far the best deal the game has to offer and it will only be available early
(it's the one that gives you diamonds for completing chapters)
elfin warren
I actually don't see it I don't think
jolly wolf
might have expired then, it doesn't last that long unfortunately
elfin warren
Sure
pearl bramble
Any tips on the best team to build
astral tinsel
Stuck at this stage any help?
raw turret
maybe try swapping grezhul with shemira and then replacing grezhul for lyka to get faction bonus and haste
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
@cinder cloak
cinder cloak
That worked. You are amazing. Thanks.
raw turret
np!
summer thicket
Would it be adviceable to reset Saveas to get Shemira to 121? https://i.imgur.com/ONMYCj1.png
raw turret
I think in this stage of the game Saveas might still be better; idk tho. It's only a few diamonds to test so you could always test.
As a side note and more importantly: try not to ascend to legendary unless you can immediately go for L+; you'll get stuck without fodder to use in the future and it'll end up screwing you over if you can't find copies of the units you got to Legendary.
rugged niche
summer thicket
Aye I had read something about that and that's why I worked out the math first - i've got enough duplicates to get both Saveas and Shemira to L+ once i've bought out the labyrinth store in a week or so, so in that way i've been fairly lucky, i'd just need regular fodder for that to happen (e.g. hero's that aren't ascended tier/useful in mid to late game).
As for the resetting, i'll just try it out and see what works best right now then, thanks @raw turret 👍
vast nymph
Feels bad man
vast nymph
Can you help mine
rugged niche
@vast nymph try this position
I really dont know hahaha sorry man i cant really help u im bz nees to finishstave 21
22*
PLEASE HELP ANYONE LAST STAGE 22-60
meager hedge
astral tinsel
I think we free to play players just cant really advance that much unless u get lucky with heros that u draw. Then again idk how this game works so kind of in same page as you
Also stuck 5-32
Might just quit i think its too much pay to win than me having to enjoy beating one round then lose again and wait 2 days just to beat that round too much time and effort
I appreciate the help of people in here to thanks alot
modest warren
Use Raine as fodder to get a L+ Hogan? Stuck at 9-32
still oar
Try
Luc
Rosa (lyca)
Rowan
Shem
Arden
Rng It so arden can root atha and Arden and the followed by Rowan ult @rugged niche.
If your luc and Shem can ult after that it should be a win
No @modest warren. Better wait for proper fodder. You're too early to use A tiers as fodder
rugged niche
Its oke i nailed it already i did
tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Nemora
Arden
still oar
Oh gz 🎉
warm mauve
@Ssamoo#0153 not True at all im f2p and im on 24-20 u Have Walls everyone hits them event those who are not f2p
@modest warren never use ascended tier heroes as fodder no matter what, well only when u already have them 5 stars, otherwise no
alpine lark
Pls help been stuck for ages
stray pine
Fawkes
Thane
Rowan
Brutus
Belinda @alpine lark
alpine lark
OMG @stray pine tysm
cyan pendant
any ideas? would love to consider any and all mercenaries. this setup currently forces their athalia on brutus
err only if I switch safiya and lyca for whatever reason, I mean
thick mason
how should I build a team around these units? I was originally using belinda, shemira, tasi, rosalina, & lucius but lucius is still elite and getting 1 shotted
odd python
@cyan pendant if u got mercs try smth like
nara
lyca
thoran merc
shem
safiya
cyan pendant
my shemira doesn't have much for faction gear, but maybe I can try to wrap this one around safiya more
odd python
put whichever one doesnt get banished by tasi bottom backline
if no merc you could do smth with khasos like
nara
lyca
brutus
khasos
safiya
i dont really know how to work around khasos since i dont have him
astral grove
Should I reset shem for saveas? And any team comp suggestion ?
still oar
Keep going with her. Shem+ Rosa should be stronger especially if you already have mage gears and not agi gears.
bold minnow
Currently on stage 8. Which team comp should I been looking to run/ build for now?
pale kettle
Any suggestions?
wintry ether
I'm hard stuck on this stage and not sure what to try. Any advice?
violet igloo
@pale kettle what stage is this on chap 27 ?
oh wait that's not chap 27, chap 28 or 29
pale kettle
@violet igloo 28-36 to be exact
violet igloo
@pale kettle have you tried :
Tasi
Athalia
Ferael
Lyca
Nemora
?
pale kettle
@violet igloo tried it already😅 didn't work
violet igloo
@pale kettle keep trying : D it'll work eventually hehe
@wintry ether your comp is already quite good. Maybe try mehira instead of fawkes see if she can manage to ult (I doubt it). The best thing you could do is continue to buy Shemira in Lab then ascend her when you get her L+ to M or M+ and then dump all XP into Shemira
pale kettle
@violet igloo just some luck
violet igloo
@pale kettle yes
wintry ether
@violet igloo I just bought a copy of shem but still 1 copy off so definitely will clear this stage before then(well at least I really hope)
violet igloo
@wintry ether you will, just neet to level belinda a bit more maybe and also get a lucky fight. Keep focusing on Shemira 👍
wintry ether
For sure! I'm only copy of bel from ascended right now, which feels good. Gonna hopefully have bel, ahem, nem, khasos ascended by the end of the next 3-4 monthz
umbral adder
King's Tower 176, been stuck here for a while.
pallid pecan
violet igloo
@floral minnow You can use as DPS Saveas, Belinda or Shemira. I'd recommend Saveas, he's really good early game and you can ascend him consistently. Put your Saveas to max level 120. Then I would do :
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Wukong/Warek
Fawkes/Arden
If you see that you're really unlucky and don't open Rare Saveas copies, then you can use Belinda and put her to level 130/140. It's always important to have your DPS be 30 levels ahead of your other heroes
floral minnow
Ok thank you for your help i will give i a go! Very nice advice thank you!
@violet igloo one question, after getting saveas to 120, should i put rest heroes to 101 or just max somebody else?
pale kettle
Any suggestion against this boss stage?
violet igloo
@floral minnow once Saveas is 120, you can't level him more because he's only E+. So after he's max, I recommend leveling up Brutus. If in a few days everyone is level 120, then it's better to take Shemira and make her level 140 and others 100.
floral minnow
Ok will try that then
violet igloo
@pale kettle before speaking about line up to defeat boss, i would first recommend not ascending anymore Thane, it's better to put fodder into your Lucius or even Estrilda. For the line up maybe try :
Shemira
Lucius
Nemora
Lyca
Arden/Tasi
raw flicker
Lineup suggestions? Tried lots, am I just too under leveled still?
violet igloo
@raw flicker Put your Saveas to level 100 and other heroes to level 60-70
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
WuKong/Lucius
Tasi
true forge
What would be my ideal lineup for early?
delicate trout
@true forge hogan saveas arden shemi wukong, it's early, so saveas is the most important
pale kettle
@violet igloo yeah I should have waited for Lucius before ascending Thane, he can't manage to survive the initial dmg and just needed 1 more rare+ to ascend Lyca to Mythic
violet igloo
@pale kettle unfortunately thane isn't the best dps, in fact he's quite low tier at the moment, they will probably buff him. I suggest halting his progression, unless you have more copies of him and can one day Ascend him to A if you are stuck in levels in the crystals once you get to level 240
woeful fjord
