I'll give it a shot
#lineup-help
ruby bane
idle oriole
half sequoia
@worthy bane could u maybe but 1 2 3 4 5 on the champs i should use kn click order do they are positioned good , kinda noob here
worthy bane
Antandra/Ogi and Estrilda/Hogan in 1/2, swap them depending on enemy lineups. Saveas 3, Tasi 4, Arden 5 probably. The entire backline can movr around too
stable shale
one last question is it worth to rickety an elite hero for our main lu ?
worthy bane
Yep! Reset whenever you need to
stable shale
okay thanks! 
slender ferry
I want to add Lyca and Belinda and wu Kong into my party who should I replace them with
still oar
Hogan wukong
Belinda lyca tasi
Maybe
slender ferry
I just need help with setting them up bc I have no idea which I should replace/change for who also is Grezhul any good he always seems the first person to die in my team
pale kettle
So my main lineup is on top, and I really need to replace Estrilda for another tank, suggestions?
This is a team built for buffs and high damage btw
worthy bane
@pale kettle First of all, revert your L Lucius and Estrilda, amd secondly still use that main 5 rn, you can move around Estrilda and have Shem + Lucius tank
pale kettle
oh, oof, I did not know that was possible but it makes so much sense now, I'll definitely get on that
Yeah for reference, I'm a bit of a casual when it comes to the mechanics of this game, but I'm definitely looking to get a bit more serious with AFK so its time to put on my learning glasses
worthy bane
Pm me if you ever need more help @pale kettle, otherwise drop it here
mellow gazelle
I have team of Lucius (Mythic+), Brutus (Mythic+), Belinda(Mythic), Rosa(Mythic) and Shemira (Ascended 4*), all at max level with max Mythic gear, except for Belinda ( 2* away from maxing her weapon) and Rosa(waiting to finish Belinda's gear first). Is this a good team or should I replace someone? Kinda like Shemira, Brutus and Lucius.
lunar sky
anyone able to help me out with my characters and who to focus on i have been getting stuck on campaign and labyrinth
violet igloo
@lunar sky Saveas is a really good DPS hero. You can use for your team :
Saveas
Lucius
Lyca
Tasi
Arden
And make sure to overlevel your Saveas, make him +20/+30 levels compared to other heroes. You can also almost make him Elite by ascending him in ascension temple
twilit dune
@violet igloo there you go
need help with the 6-28
is my team not looking so good ?
violet igloo
@twilit dune 2 really good DPS carries are Shemira or Saveas. Saveas is really good choice for early game, until chap 13 and he's not too hard to ascend since he's a blue hero. So you could try :
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Arden
Make sure to overlevel your Saveas compared to other heroes, he must be +20/+30 levels higher than other heroes
compact merlin
I am completely stuck in 10-8.. Is my lineup simply not high enough level?
My main lineup is
Belinda
Brutus
Saveas
Lucius
Safiya
I assume it's important to go for the formation bonuses
tawny jewel
Well thats a bad team. Idk why people use shemira below lvl 160. You need to take saveas to lvl 160 and use him till chapter 14. Also you need to have 1 carry in your team. If you can take saveas to legendary or l+ now ,then do it. If not use only belinda. You should have only 1 carry thats about 30 lvls above the rest of your team. Can u make saveas lag or leg plus?
compact merlin
I will check - Thank you for the help!
I can make Saveas L if I sacrifice Safiya and Antandra
wait I can also sac Golus and Tidus
So np yeah - I guess I sac Golus and ?
tawny jewel
@compact merlin nono you never do that. You sacrefice only blue heroes. Always. Save up fodder to make him l+. Also dont waste an e+ copy of him to make him legendary because u will need it to make him l+ . For now i would use
Belinda
Brutus
Rownan
Lucius
Arden
compact merlin
oh okay! I will try that setup and save up fodder - And not sacrifice himself to himself ^^
tawny jewel
@compact merlin golus and another blue(not a saveas)
compact merlin
I guess I've been playing wrong this entire time
tawny jewel
@compact merlin yes. And NEVER sacrefice purple like tidus
violet igloo
@twilit dune this is Arden. He is really good because he can root ennemies so it buys time until your Saveas can ult
tawny jewel
@compact merlin its ok. For how long have you been playing?
compact merlin
Hm three weeks abouts~
Maybe 4 ^^~
Hey that worked instantly
I'm confused about who to pick in general it seems
tawny jewel
@compact merlin ay. With saveas it will be much better
Also your time played isnt much if you wanna make another account. But everything can be fixed so its ok imo
compact merlin
Okay I will just grind a bit more and try to recover~
grave shell
Stuck on 6-12 need help with what i need to do to get unstuck and go on a few days without getting stuck on a stage
violet igloo
@grave shell You might need to ascend Saveas to E+ so that you can level him to 120. You can also try switching positions around if the battle is really close
tawny jewel
@grave shell show full roster
Also i would advice new players to go in the questions room and ask for beginner advice for ascending , spending diamonds and things like that
compact merlin
Thank you @tawny jewel
tawny jewel
@compact merlin np
grave shell
tawny jewel
I would make hogan lvl 90 and use
Saveas
Hogan
Lyca
Lucius
Arden
Also your team has potential for full lbs with belinda carry as she has already 4 copies. Something like belinda rosa lucius hogan lyca. Its on you @grave shell
old ridge
Can someone help with my arena lineup? I thought about replacing shemira with ferael
violet igloo
@old ridge At this current point, I would chose Shemira Ascended over Ferael M+
tawny jewel
@old ridge looks good. Maybe shem front is more successful. Also farael at ascended otdmges shem in late game but idk the exact lvl
old ridge
oh ok, im 1 ferael away from ascended, after that its ok to replace ye?
grave shell
@tawny jewel who should I reset to get the required exp to level hogan to 90 and lucius to 61?
neat light
Help
grave shell
and I only have 2 belindas
violet igloo
but puting Ferael would lower your rating and could trick lower people into fighting you
shell heron
Any help please
violet igloo
@shell heron you're line-up is quite good. However you should overlevel Belinda, put her to level 160 and the rest at 140 if you can. Your DPS should always be higher level that other heroes
shell heron
True, I'll just have to wait and level Bel more and more, thank you
obsidian kindle
@woven lichen i did it with the team you gave me!!!
smoky delta
Been stuck on 21-10 for a while. Really not sure what else to try apart from waiting to raise my crystal level to 200..
violet igloo
@smoky delta you need to put your Shemira to 240, but to do that you need your crystal at 200 iirc.
Also a general tip, make sure to not ascend heroes from E+ to L if you don't have another E+ copy to put them at L+ 😉
smoky delta
Yeah I just need one more 200 and a shit load of dust. I did have a few heroes stuck a L in the beginning but for now I'm just mostly waiting for fodder. I only have Rowan stuck at L now.
cerulean hamlet
@odd sierra Your comp is probably fine, but Arden over Talene could work for his CC, otherwise try get Saveas to level 160 ASAP
odd sierra
@cerulean hamlet should I put arden in front line?
onyx basin
Any ideas for 24-40?
violet igloo
@onyx basin swap Lyca and Thoran positionning
odd sierra
just tried the stage and they 1Shotted saveas lol jaja
onyx basin
@violet igloo WOW JUST WOW 24-40 first try thanks mate
cerulean hamlet
Mh, how do the battles usually go?
odd sierra
normally my frontline makes time so that belinda can ult, and rosaline make her ult again and wipe them
violet igloo
@onyx basin 👍 positionning is key to this game : ) hehe. Gratz !
odd sierra
I'm missing another frontline imo
cerulean hamlet
Mh, Saveas should be able to tank but maybe you'd want him at higher level for that
maybe arden over saveas and lucius/talene front?
weary cobalt
any help Please? brutus boss 21-20
odd sierra
@cerulean hamlet I put Gorvus over saveas, and used in frontline, it gave bought enough time so Belinda+Rosa worked
cerulean hamlet
Ah grats!
Saveas will probably work once he's L+ and maybe with more levels but maybe E+ and equal is too weak x)
odd sierra
yeah thanks, I don't want to take thalene away the heal are insane xD but I'll have to in due time
fair iron
I really need help with that bad designed map......otherwise i ll destroy my mobile and my PC screen
My mercs
four to four no help...thanks 🙂
glossy pagoda
Id try to replace either estrilda with arden or lyca with rowan
inner mirage
I keep getting rekt in seconds my shemira doesn't even let off first ult and kaz ult always finishes my last 1/2 heroes off. I just die in seconds not sure how to beat it
My rowan and rosaline are both just elite+/elite but they mixed with mythic and legendary gear
glossy pagoda
I think nemora is the one u should definetly replace here, maybe with lyca or arden. You could also try tasi lyca arden, with call on arden, to get the first roots.
Also brutus can be imune to ogis throw, with last grasp, might be helpful on this stage
inner mirage
Damn my wilder team is the weakest atm I'll play around to see if it works if not I'll just have to wait to get stronger
rain timber
Is it worth it to invest in Shemira from lab store like people generally recommend, for me specifically? Since I already have a pretty strong Belinda + 2 more copies in relatively early game with a lb comp? Also should I look to replace Nemora with a lb hero?
violet igloo
@rain timber yes, Shemira is a real workhorse in mid game until chap 23. And you'll be able to feed all GB fodder into her. Many people player her and she's a very reliable choice. You can play a Lightbearer comp around Shemira (lucius, fawkes, rowan, rosa)
rain timber
Ah okay thanks! Unfortunately I haven’t rolled a single Fawkes .-.
violet igloo
No worries, it'll come. You can also buy fawkes in challenger tournament if you wish.
rain timber
Awesome! Thanks again for the tips 🙏
violet igloo
@earnest terrace make sure to put either Shemira or Saveas to maximum level. I would play Shemira since you already have 4 copies of her. Once you ascend Shemira to L, you can immediatly put her to L+. you can try :
Shemira
Grezhul
Safiya
Wu-Kong
Arden
We can figure out a better line up once you have a bit more heroes : ) but main thing is to put your DPS carry hero at 20 to 30 levels over your other heroes
earnest terrace
so which hero can over level？
rare magnet
OH HAHAH I thought this meant actually lining up for help
violet igloo
no : ) hehe
rare magnet
What should I do !
violet igloo
@rare magnet level your shemira to maximum you can, she's your DPS carry she must be 20 to 30 levels over your other heroes. You can try this comp :
Shemira
Wu-Kong
Nemora
Tasi
Arden
violet igloo
@rare magnet also I highly recommend reading the guide pinned in this channel
@rare magnet you don't need to reset Hogan. You need to reset Wukong and put all XP into Shemira. It's better to have shemira level 70 and other heroes level 40 than all hereos level 55.
rare magnet
OH okay thank you! I’ll do that, should I keep hogan or replace/reset him for Arden? Because I thought I needed two tanks in the front line
glossy pagoda
Arden does nothing befor level 81
rare magnet
O so keep my name line up and just max out Sherima?
glossy pagoda
U could also choose wukong as your overleveled hero now, shemira without rosaline is not that great, this early. And u likely cant use wukong at later stages for quite a while, so it could be a fun experience to use him now.
rare magnet
I have rosaline lvl 45!!
With both those in mine would it be better to overload wu or Shemira o.o
violet igloo
I would overlevel Shemira, as soon as she'll ult it'll be GG in most fights.
grave shell
Anyone able to suggest me a lineup able to get past 6-12
earnest terrace
@violet igloo second account please help too hehe
lofty depot
@grave shell show me the stage
violet igloo
@earnest terrace put your wukong to 120 then and
Shemira
Wukong
Nemora
Tasi
Arden
Arden has to be over lvl 81
violet igloo
@earnest terrace you don't need to have arden so high, he's not really a DPS hero. Only put more levels on DPS heroes. Right now you are stuck because you only have 2 E+ heroes ^^
lofty depot
No need to use two DPS (Shemira and Belinda) as long as Shem is +161 you can use only her
earnest terrace
so wukong and shemira but my shem only rare not rare+
crimson kraken
21-60. Some help please? I tried also using athalia vs arden
violet igloo
@crimson kraken try Nemora instead of Athalia, and keep trying until she charms Arden and he roots his own team
crimson kraken
Nice advice. I'll try. But you think is better using wilder trio? Or just Nemora with my LB team + shem?
rare magnet
I still get dicked on :((
violet igloo
@rare magnet put your Shemira level higher, like level 70 and others level 40. Try replacing Eironn with Rosa and putting Nemora instead of Rosa
lofty depot
@crimson kraken I'd stick with Lyca/Nem/Tasi/Shem/Brutus or Lucius
crimson kraken
thx all, keep trying
barren badge
Need a line up for Soren and one for wrizz
Currently using Rosalina Belinda Rowan shemira Larson on wrizz
Estrilda Lucius Belinda shemira Rowan for soren
drowsy dove
Should I swap ferael or shemira in for someone? Graveborn only run.
grave shell
@lofty depot here’s 6-12
lofty depot
Remove Mirael and Belinda for Lyca and Arden and remove Ogi for Lucius @grave shell
eager echo
Whats a good lineup vs Soren? I use this on both soren and wrizz but while i get to 65mil damage on wrizz i barely pass 20mil on soren
lofty depot
@eager echo I'd remove Brutus at least, maybe for Rowan but put Rowan at the middle back
eager echo
And shem front?
calm pulsar
How to counter overleved shemira + rosaline in pvp?
Usual enemy team setup:
Rosaline
-----Shemira
Rowan
-----Lucius
Fawkes
lofty depot
@eager echo Or Rowan, honestly I'm not very good at the guild hunt lineups xD But I know for sure Brutus won't do much good for you
@calm pulsar Nara, Athalia, Nemora, Tasi, Fawkes, Ferael etc. Heroes that can stun/disable her. I usually always lose when the enemy has a Fawkes that puts her in the coffin. Super fkn annoying
grave shell
So I’m gonna assume I’m gonna have to afk for a few days to level them up?
eager echo
@lofty depot puting rowan moved my damage up to 23mil from 20 mil but its still such a vast diference between soren and wrizz, is it even posuble to equalize them?
lofty depot
No I get like 45-135 in Soren fight and 250 in Wrizz lol
You can try using Warek against Soren as well @eager echo
eager echo
Warek instead of who?
lofty depot
@grave shell Yepp, get used to AFK'ing x)
@eager echo Lucius, or do you Insta-die then?
eager echo
Everyone appart from shem dies at 45 sec mark
lofty depot
With Lucius in your lineup you mean? I would try without him and use Warek instead. And if your Belinda doesn't do much you might as well remove her too for Twins/Lorsan if you have them, if not then put Lucius there
neat light
Help 2 of my hero keep getting 1 shotted 3 secs into the battle
lofty depot
@eager echo Does Rosa follow Bel or Shem? And who does the most damage?
glossy pagoda
@calm pulsar what are your heroes, there are counters but it depends on what you have
umbral creek
need new formation that gets me through next few chapters i’m at 7-2
state fromtline and backline too pls
vale kraken
Belinda
Hogan
Mehira
Wukong
Rosaline
lofty depot
It depends on the stage. Hard to give you one lineup that works. However you could try:
Belinda
Hogan
Tasi
Wu-kong
Arden
vale kraken
Could also swap Rosaline with arden
wintry frost
24-54, dont know what to do, everyone is annoying, i really need to finish this chapter but there is another athalia at the end of the chapter 
glossy pagoda
Ye mehira tasi and arden may work for different stages
wintry frost
I dont have grezhul buy i'll try, ty
lofty depot
Try merc him from someone and see if that works @wintry frost
eager echo
Shem does 15 of the 20mil damage and rosa folows her@lofty depot
lofty depot
I'd try without Belinda then @eager echo
wintry frost
@lofty depot lol
lofty depot
I'll save that for later, thank you haha! I'm hoping to get to c25 today, I'm 4 stages behind you now @wintry frost
calm pulsar
@glossy pagoda The threat I'm facing is that enemy rosaline ults on shemira(sooner or later) and at some point there's double shemira's ult(overlap).
No matter if I coffin enemy shemira, root fawkes(with arden+lyca) my shemira is also coffined, was trying to put tasi+fawkes and enemy shemira still isnt 100% disabled, even a split second is enough for her to ult.
How do i time it so rosaline ults on someone else?
Or how do i counter it with any hero combination, just so I could 'see' a possibility of winning (without using rosaline/mirror lineup)
p.s im talking about mid game 180-200 shemira level rest 160
wintry frost
@lofty depot yeah good luck, cause that 24-60 athalia is scary
glossy pagoda
Can you show your team with a ss, it would really help to find ur best options @calm pulsar
I counter the team differently on 3 accounts, so it really depends on your options
tribal lily
halcyon shore
glossy pagoda
@tribal lily ankhira is kinda week on our side in general and kaz has problems in this chapter, due to faction disadvatage. Try to replace them with estrilda and silvina.
cyan olive
Help plz. Who do i level up next? Belinda? Lucius? Thane or tassie?
glossy pagoda
@halcyon shore
Try
Lorsan
Silvina
Rosalina/nemora
Eironn
Lyca/nemora
Silvina needs to stay behind soren, so you only use her ult manually when he made her run to the front
@cyan olive for campaign Lucius is probaply the best most of the time. U might want to reset him for others to progress in faction towers occasionally tho.
Or you could choose belinda for more gold from daily wrizz, if u dont push campaign much.
cyan olive
Ty. :)
austere nova
i dont get it... every time i get close to the 100m mark, both Lucius and Nemora's bubbles are popped instantly and my Shemira gets charmed which kills everyone... any advice?
violet igloo
@austere nova use Rowan instead of Nemora.
austere nova
i tried that, with the same results...
maybe because i play Soren on full auto and Lucius Ult's too early or late sometimes, but his bubble is useless after a certain damage point, i use it more for mitigation of Shemira getting charmed
somber shoal
any strats against this?
wintry birch
I'm stuck
glossy pagoda
@somber shoal try rosaline for belinda double ult. If u went here befor doing all easier fights available, resetting may help too. Just be wary of the fights with satrana, dont let her ult at all costs.(Or she might wipe you even when you win the fight)
wintry birch
What about me
glossy pagoda
Uhh its a bit tricky for you, since u brought so many ascended tier heroes to L. An L + Mirael or saveas at level 160, would be really good.
You may actually be asension stucked quite soon for a while if u dont get a carry to L+ :(
U could try to use
Tasi
Belinda, if belinda can win a one vs one again morvus, but its not easy at level 135
white birch
restive tundra
What am i doing wrong here? The power difference isn't even huge but the entire backline gets oneshotted by the assassin
visual quiver
I already answered in #classic-questions . you don't have a frontline. silvina jumps on the weakest mage in your team and then attacks the tank infront. both your frontliners jump into the enemy however so she attacks the rest of your backline
restive tundra
So even if gorvo jumps into theie lineup,The assassin doesn't really care about the frontliners and jump straight to the weakest (Tasi) eitherway
I see
limpid quail
@restive tundra she always jumps to the mage with lowest def at the beginning of a fight and then goes on form there. when she kills the mage she attacks the nearest target
restive tundra
Do you think i could create a comparitive efficient line up with any of these?
visual quiver
yes. brutus in front of the mage that gets attacked
limpid quail
@restive tundra also recommend to read the game tips and guide in the pinned messages in #classic-questions
glossy pagoda
If u have brutus in front together with thane, u could put satrana on crystal and try safya tasi and satrana as backline. Satrana needsx lowest def, so she is bait and explodes in silvinas face. Safya will also reduce silvinas damageoutput , while buffing brutus.
restive tundra
Would try Yeti,Managed to beat it with this lineup for now since Brutus is far too weak as elite lvl100 with barely any good gear
Alright full, I'll look into them,Thanks!
pale kettle
Best pve/pvp team I, can make?
glossy pagoda
Ur best pvp Team is probaply
Athalia
Lucius
Belinda
Saveas
Fawkes
Pve may depend more on the enemy lineup
glossy pagoda
Saveas frontline may be fine (if ur arena isnt full of belinda/mirael>level121
worthy island
Help
frozen wave
hey guys - still new here. wondering if wukong is worth adding for PvE progression mainly, and what to do about Eironn dying so fast? running gorvo, eironn, tasi, safiya, and belinda atm. any advice is much appreciated!!
pale kettle
@glossy pagoda thank you!
worthy island
@frozen wave its better to overlevel a certain hero (at your level, Saveas is the answer) and allow him to carry the team i.e level 120 while everyone else is 80 etc
frozen wave
@worthy island ahh ok, wasnt aware of that strategy, ty! so Saveas would benefit maybe over building up safiya (swap for her mid-back line?)
from what ive got now, and my current PvE go-to-team, what team would you reccommend for now?
@worthy island would it be dumb to revert everyone, gun for 120 with Saveas, then build everyone else back to 80 or 81 (for the skill up)?
worthy island
I dont think its a dumb idea at all, since it makes a huge difference and allows you to progress fast using that saveas, another hero that you should absolutely be making use of is Arden. Being able to root/cc in general is game-changing and lets you win against teams much stronger than you.
From your heores right now, maybe Saveas and Gorvo frontline, and arden safiya tasi at the back
frozen wave
also, to your point of advice, should i only go to 120/80? or 121/81 for the skill boosts?
especially for heroes like Tasi etc
worthy island
If you have enough resources, go for it. However, prioritise Saveas
frozen wave
ok cool beans! so its ok to drop eironn and belinda for now, even though they pull some decent damage?
ok awesome, ill give that a shot, cant hurt to spend 80ish gems reverting and if it doesnt work, can always swap back or change again
worthy island
You can try experimenting if you like those heroes, but personally i think saveas is gonna way outshine them anyway in damage.
Btw just a heads up, Saveas works very well until he hits his level cap at 160. After that he starts to fall off slowly until he becomes useless when enemies are higher level / your heroes break past 160
frozen wave
okay cool, so for the forseeable PvE f2p future, he should be great, and once i hit 160, switch it up basically?
ty man. just noticed that eironn does some great damage if he survives, but rarely does he survive long front line in pve
worthy island
Yep. Make sure you spend all your lab coins on Shemira. Once she hits 161 (conveniently around the time saveas starts falling off) she becomes an absolute beast and will be your bread and better for a loooong time. been my carry all the way to chapter 23
frozen wave
ok awesome, tyvm man!! ill give gorvo, saveas, tasi, safiya and arden a shot! and try to get saveas to 121 priority and spend the rest on the 81's
much appreciated on your help/input!!
worthy island
No problem ☺️ good luck man! I’m no expert, so try to ask around for others’ input in case they have better ideas!
frozen wave
cool, i trust your personal experience haha 😄 ill be back in this tab if things go south after reverting/rebuilding 😄
but any help is always appreciated!!
ok hold up.... just pulled a Shemira (my first) from a scroll... how does that change things up? lol @worthy island
thinking Gorvo, Shemira, Tasi, Eironn, Belinda? but your Arden and Saveas ideas are still tempting me
visual quiver
that lineup uses 3 carries. you only want one and shemira only gets op at level 161. before that sav is better
so to answer your questions. it doesn't change anything
frozen wave
ok roger that, tyvvvm. so still go Gorvo, Saveas to 121, tasi, safiya (not Shemira/eironn?) and arden? @visual quiver
visual quiver
sounds good to me with your options. gorvo can disrupt, sav can tank frontline if overleveled. tasi, safiya and arden backline. 3+2 faction bonus. get your saveas to L+ asap though
sharp flame
This must be the hardest level I have faced so far and it's not even a boss stage
frozen wave
ok awesome, thank you my friend. much, much appreciated!! @visual quiver
woven lichen
@sharp flame yeah a lot of people get stuck there. Can try Nemora instead of tasi and use her to charm Arden on top. May need to swap shemira and Brutus depending on where shemira lasts longer.
sharp flame
@woven lichen thanks! Already done that, my current set up is the best so far, I only need to survive 3secs more with Shem, so gonna push her to 220 and see if that works
woven lichen
@sharp flame good luck 🙂 (can also try out lb of Rowan Rosa Lucius/Brutus fawkes)
sharp flame
I'll give it a go as well thanks @woven lichen
frozen wave
@visual quiver @worthy island that team with Saveas prioritized is kicking ass... his dmg is humongous atm.. tyvvvm for the advice!!
rare night
Need help pls
rough latch
white birch
mint jetty
pale kettle
@rare night
Nemora
Estrilda
Belinda
. Golus??
Rosaline
@white birch
Lyca
. Lucius
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
@mint jetty what do you need help on?
rare night
@pale kettle damn just fed my golus ahahah
lofty depot
Help please :c
visual quiver
what stage is that @lofty depot
lofty depot
24-60 @visual quiver
mint jetty
@pale kettle I'm stuck on 12-33
visual quiver
pale kettle
@mint jetty send the enemy team
lofty depot
Already tried that for like an hour haha :( Tried almost all the screenshot lineups :( @visual quiver
visual quiver
they are 8 levels higher though. could make a difference
mint jetty
pale kettle
you have three DPS heroes dude-
mint jetty
My guy I don't know what elts to use😂 I’ve tried a few combos and everything gets shredded
With the guys I have any line up that might help?
pale kettle
instead of Shemira, put Brutus, and instead of Saveas, put a CC hero.
visual quiver
you should try to not ascend every hero you get to legendary. read the pinned beginners guide in #classic-questions
novel crypt
Stuck on this lab battle, I can't seem to even take down one enemy after trying out all possible team arrangements... What should I put in resonating crystal to help me beat this
visual quiver
tasi instead of belinda. shem instead of thane. at the beginning use shem ult then instantly lyca ult. if you do it right then shem ult ticks a few times during lyca ult. after that use tasi ult
novel crypt
ok
just tried it, does no damage they just instantly heal to full health and shem gets one shot
visual quiver
how do they heal to full health if they can't do anything for the first 10 seconds of the battle
novel crypt
well mehira is the squishiest on their team and i cant even kill her
visual quiver
and why is your nemora 149 while your carries are underleveled?
novel crypt
I dont have fodder, just started playing
mint jetty
@pale kettle I put saved in front and some how I’m winning
scenic swan
help please 9-31
harsh willow
worthy bane
@scenic swan try just using Hogan instead of Vedan
harsh willow
That's most of my current units, any chance I could get help team building for stort?
Story, and some more are hiding below if you need those as well.
worthy bane
Wonk take this, I'll add in if I feel the need
wintry birch
Shouldn't @harsh willow ascend his lucius
winter matrix
I'd with
Nemora
Shemira
Fawkes
Brutus/estrilda
Lyca
wintry birch
Because he can
worthy bane
To E+ yes. Past that no
winter matrix
Oh yea Take him to as far as u can and place him with Shemira frontline
worthy bane
Also I'm a bigger fan of Tasi over Fawkes, otherwise I agree
winter matrix
Use whatever want. Tasi and Fawkes are the same. Tasi is better tho with the ult
worthy bane
Tasi gives 3/1/1 faction bonus too. Tanks should be swapped based on opposing lineup
wintry birch
So lucius isnt good late game
winter matrix
Wdym. Lucius is a fucking unit i still use him as A on ch21
wintry birch
Oh ok because @worthy bane said dont go past E+
vale zephyr
help pls 😭
winter matrix
Perhaps because he doesnt have another E+ copy for L+ . He would waste 2 E+ fodders
harsh willow
all right so try to gear up that team and use them to go through story content?
worthy bane
@wintry birch Don't L him unless you can instantly L+ him
wintry birch
Ok
winter matrix
Give them the best gear and push
worthy bane
Same applies for all heros besides fodder
wintry birch
Fodder is heroes that dont go past L+ right
worthy bane
Yep
harsh willow
hmm so should i use Tasi or Fawkes?
winter matrix
Ascending to L uses up fodder which u will need later but it wont be anywhere because u used it for ascending to L
worthy bane
@harsh willow I prefer tasi, test both though
harsh willow
all right
winter matrix
@harsh willow Tasi. Better ult than Fawkes and gives faction bonus with Lyca and Nemora
harsh willow
oh also where are Wukong and Tidus useful? mostly curious since i got tidus in the summons from my mailbox
wintry birch
Welp
winter matrix
Wukong is useful mostly in guild hunts. Tidus when higher ascencion I've heard is a beast. Also useable in faction towers
winter matrix
Basically the same thing. Baden i think gives more minions as he gives them Not only from ult but also from something else. Wukong only summons clones from ult
harsh willow
im also debating saving for Arthur, any idea how he is yet?
quiet barn
What team should I run? I'm trying divine realm pot
wintry birch
Wrizz setup
winter matrix
@harsh willow Amazing late game. But keep in mind, by buying the 15 fragments from lab store u still need to buy that 3 times to get 60 fragments. Thats 240k lab coins, which would be better spent off on Shemira/Thoran/Nemora
winter matrix
That also. And by looking at your heroes I see u need 2 more Shemiras and Nemoras to get them to Ascended. So definantelly buy those 2 pairs before going for Arthur.
harsh willow
thank you for the help
winter matrix
Anytime
quiet barn
Do you guys think I should run saveas or Belinda as carry?
worthy bane
@quiet barn Saveas unless You're also using Rosa
quiet barn
I'm using Rosaline aswell yeah, currently Lucius, Rowan, Belinda, Rosaline and then it's trial and error
But can't seem to be able to kill Brutus without losing one or more of them ( PoT)
winter matrix
You can send ur heroes and we could figure something out
winter matrix
Your Belinda is M. Lvl her up, then u have 2 E+ copies so thats Ascended. For formation I would use
Belinda
lucius
Nemora
Saveas
Rosaline
Make sure your Belinda has more power than Saveas so Rosaline will give ult to Belinda
When Belinda is 161+ u can switch Saveas and Belindas position so she is frontline getting more energy
limpid quail
one saveas in frontline is probably meant to be lucius
quiet barn
Ah I didn't use both at same time yet
winter matrix
Oh sorry. I was thinking about Saveas so i put him in twice
wintry birch
Help and Help with wrizz setup
quiet barn
I'll give it a go, thanks
winter matrix
I think its just a matter of leveli g up your heroes. Rowan and Belinda to 160, that will give them better stats. You can try switching Gwyneth for Rosaline and make her follow Belinda @wintry birch
quiet barn
Without Rowan me team gets oneshot
hollow spruce
Any lineup tips for this chapter, and wrizz? 🙂 tyvm
Campaign I lack survivability with my tanks, cant rely on just Saveas for dps, so i clocked in Eironn+Gorvo+Seirus for chain CC dmg. But that all goes down the toilet cause the enemy Saveas just pumps out WAY more dmg than I can do/take. Also need tasi for that banishment, and sleep.
For Wrizz, I can survive the entire duration, but my DPS seems to be too low with Shem, Lucius, Belinda, Lorsan, Saveas (Barely broke 6m)
wintry birch
@winter matrix I geared my rosaline and made her follow Belinda and it worked thx
winter matrix
Glad to hear
limpid quail
@small egret reset nara and make shemira 240
and stop making L with ascended tier heroes, you block yourself with fodder
winter matrix
Why dont people get this. Dont make L... Ever, unless you can ascend to L+
onyx blaze
Welp? Hardstuck..
limpid quail
@winter matrix because they are new here on the discord or dont read actively, just joined for the reward
small egret
Nah naras my main hero, waiting on dust to make her stronger. And i already know about not wasting my time on characters that cant be ascended.
winter matrix
Oh yea. Sorry if that came out angry but I've been feeling a bit down lately @limpid quail
limpid quail
@small egret so then the answer if its possible to beat is probably no
visual quiver
that's why I'm not answering questions 24/7. I'd get mentally ill for answering the same questions a 100 times a day
limpid quail
@onyx blaze nemora opposite of ferael to charm him is a solution that works most of the time
visual quiver
who is anubis
small egret
4th on top row
hollow spruce
tidus?
small egret
Yeah thats what i call him. Thats what he reminds me of.
Idk why they named him tidus when thats what hes suppose to be.
rough meadow
tiny birch
So I’m super new and it might not matter much but what should I be going for or doing lineup wise, what should I be aiming for in this part of the game or trying to set up?
wintry birch
for now lineup wont really matter just focus on leve
tiny birch
👍
shrewd oar
novel spruce
help?
woven lichen
@rough meadow should check the pinned guides in #classic-questions and #lineup-help. You should avoid ascending too many heroes to legendary without an additional copy for L+ and try to push a hero to ascended stage as fast as possible
For what you have... can try shemira Brutus/Izold lyca Arden and Nemora...
@novel spruce
Tasi/Arden
-Grezhul/Brutus
Lyca
-shemira
Nemora
(Grezhul is nice for mdef, wilders for faction advantage and crowd control, hopefully Nemora charms Ferael or Isabelle)
quick willow
which lineup should I get now that I got brutus just a sec ago? I also can get shemira today from the labyrinth
tall stump
How can i beat this? I can get shemira to ult before everyone else buy enemy nemora ends up healing everyone when theyre about to die and then my shemira cant solo becuase of charm
woven lichen
@quick willow saveas (20-40 levels above everyone else), Brutus, Mirael, fawkes, Lucius/khasos
tall stump
Beat it next attempt after posting iono
woven lichen
@tall stump nice 👍
tall stump
I tried this lineup like 50 times before posting lol
placid flower
How do you guys think he positioned his heroes in this fight? I can't beat this lvl with 247 crystal lol
lost hound
7-8, I’m thinking once I get my 5th hero to 81 I use: Lucius Brutus Saveas Nemora Arden
still oar
That's 1 to 5 from top to bottom. Rowan and thoran Frontline and lots lots lots of trying for the correct rng @placid flower
placid flower
Thanks
still oar
Saveas
Brutus
Safiya
Luc(hogan)
Arden(nemora)
Maybe. Safiya to buff your backline and Nemora or luc for sustainability @lost hound
lost hound
@still oar ty
wintry birch
Can anyone help
placid flower
Still not even close and I have 500k more value lol
still oar
Can you make your Belinda the most powerful so Rosa would follow her @wintry birch
Try
Belinda
Luc
Rowan
thoran(ulmus)
Rosa(tasi)
@wintry birch
wintry birch
rosa does follow belinda i made sure already
still oar
Thoran's counter is heavy rng @placid flower. You have got to make it right. Part of the reason I don't like it
wintry birch
@still oar ulmus worked thx
wintry birch
have saveas like 20 levels higher than the rest
deep solar
hm okay i'll have to pull him off my stone
wintry birch
yes
deep solar
would it be a good idea to only put 4 heros on the stone to let me get my lowest lvl up higher?
or do you have to have 5 for it to work
wintry birch
5
wintry birch
Ideal setup would be
Nemora
Saveas
Antandra
Gorvo
Arden
With saveas like 20 level higher
visual quiver
nah, he can already upgrade his sav and hogan to e+, better use hogan sav frontline
wintry birch
i said gorvo because of the faction bonus
visual quiver
yeah but his backline is open with gorvo and they die instantly
wintry birch
while your here do you mind helping me
visual quiver
I can try
wintry birch
Anyway I can win without losing anyone
visual quiver
can win or can't win?
visual quiver
then you can't win without losing anyone. lol
anyways:
try lucius brutus frontline, rowan rosa belinda backline. rosa needs to follow belinda for double ult at the beginning to kill luc before ult
you can also try tasi instead of rowan so your frontline survives longer if that's a problem
wintry birch
thx i only lost luc but thats fine
visual quiver
rip. well, you at least have brutus still with his 7 seconds invisibility
it's pretty hard for me to make lb formations because I never used lb, ever.
wintry birch
lol next round i only lost brut
visual quiver
you should try to get shem to M asap. lab is easy af with shem
wintry birch
shot i used my shem for thoran L
visual quiver
wtf. did you read the beginners guide pinned in #classic-questions ? shemira is the carry that 90% of people use after 160
high scarab
I need help I can’t win in campaign 7-40
wintry birch
Belinda
Ulmus
Rowan
Lucius
Isabella
high scarab
Ok
visual quiver
mehira instead of isabella is a decent option if lucius survives long enough until she can ult. her ult is op in early game
high scarab
It didn’t work they killed them lol
wintry birch
do what asmia said then
visual quiver
you can try hogan if you have him at e+
high scarab
I did that before and failed
icy sigil
should I use e+ vurk or e saveas as my carry atm?
visual quiver
definitely saveas. far easier to get to L+
icy sigil
I mean for right now though
upbeat moat
guys keep this for asking about help with specific lineups, other questions should go to #classic-questions
wintry birch
hey sep i was counting on you to win lol
icy sigil
was this for my question? @upbeat moat
upbeat moat
yes
icy sigil
ok I'll remember for next time ^^
plush patrol
Which of these should I use for my lineup against wrizz in hard more labyrinth? I only got the elite poisonous embrace relic for “damage over time relics”, wasn’t too lucky.
split peak
Pls help
@pale kettle put rowan center back and behind lucius take out nemora for belinda
rugged niche
pale kettle
Sadly that’s not gonna work I believe.
stray pine
Can replace the Brutus with Rosa , Rosa can reliably dodge but then Fawkes has to coffin someone useful or Belinda has to double ult. Eye on Belinda , Call on Rosa @split peak
split peak
The problem is athelia
stray pine
The problem is always athalia , but with limited information and not even a roster of team comp to see availability
pallid rover
make shem 240
split peak
She is killing Belinda one with one shot even with the shield of lucius
stray pine
Thats solve that issue doesn’t it @split peak , move the Belinda
split peak
Where ? Cause anywhere in the back she dies when athelia ults
gritty sail
What’s a good early game lineup?
split peak
Upgrade rowan that will help
gritty sail
Who will be my starting 5?
split peak
Lucius estrida belinda rowan and rosalin
stray pine
If the problem is Athalia then cc her . Which bring back to the point, you haven’t shown me the full roster
split peak
stray pine
Fawkes
Shem
Brutus
Belinda
Tasi @split peak
split peak
Ill try
muted venture
How do I beat this hard lab? Front line getting melted
split peak
@stray pine that team stood no chances
muted venture
Should I duras duras tear tasi?
stray pine
Fawkes
Shem
Rosa
Lucius
Belinda
Eye on Rosa @split peak
split peak
Thanks bro that combo worked just the sides changed
proven thunder
raven spindle
Welp I’m back to solicit more help lol
Blew through rest of Ch 20 and first 9 stages of Ch 21 but this stage is really giving me a hard time. Rowan gets almost instantly melted if he’s sucked in, Shem gets melted just fast enough so that she can’t ult, and though Lucius can pop his ult once if he’s sucked in it doesn’t do much
raven spindle
To add on to the above: I googled for formations beforehand but they are very wilder-intensive and clearly I am lacking in the wilder department. Have had horrible luck in pulling Lyca and Tasi
woven lichen
@raven spindle so some counters are to use nara or athalia to attack eironn so he won’t suck you in immediately.
Rowan
-shemira
Athalia
-Lucius
Fawkes/Rosa/Nemora? (Charm Arden?)
raven spindle
Yes, I’ve tried them and got some progress but not much haha. Thank you for the quick response, I will try that setup and variations of it.
woven lichen
@raven spindle a setup that worked on YouTube was
Shemira
-Brutus
Athalia
-Lucius
Rosa
(Probably a lot of rng to deal with rooting)
trim torrent
I’m a newer player who’s gotten a lot of new elite players recently, and I have no idea who is meta or who to focus on other than Lucius and shemira. Any tips?
woven lichen
@trim torrent shemira is more for L161 and on... before that, you can replace her with mirael or saveas. Ideally saveas at 20-40 levels above everyone else. Your setup looks decent otherwise
echo bloom
Looking at changing my lineup, this is what I've been using, what can I do to improve it?
woven lichen
@echo bloom it looks ok. If using Belinda instead of saveas as carry, Rowan is nice. Otherwise can try Estrilda if she can survive as she boost atk and energy. Talene for faction bonus and healing
echo bloom
talene for faction bonus? though you need more than 1 celestial in group for that, dont have rowan and who would i replace for estrilda?
would swpaping hendrik and saveas for orthros and talene be worthwhile?
muted venture
Should I go for gorvo seirus nem lyca Kaz or Nara grez Shem Rowan isabella in hard lab?which is easier to fight?
woven lichen
@echo bloom if Talene replaces saveas, she counts as another lb.... celestials count as any faction. Can try using estrilda instead of saveas or hendrick (she might be too squishy though)
echo bloom
what about orthos over hendrik? i didnt know celestials counted as anything, good to know
woven lichen
@muted venture depends on ascension and gear... both can be ok... graveborn has probably more dps
@echo bloom that is ok to try too... mainly ok at lower levels but celestials are hard to ascend so probably will have to replace them as you move up in ascensions
muted venture
@woven lichen I just started mid game lol
unreal cobalt
Please advise 
swift steppe
What should be my starting 5?
worthy island
@frozen wave glad to hear that it's working well for you 😄
unreal cobalt
man ive tried everything, gonna be hitting 120 wall soon fml
woven lichen
@unreal cobalt
Brutus
-Lucius
Mirael/Rosa
-saveas
Twin
(Hopefully saveas can kill them)
unreal cobalt
i dont have lucius :x
8 elites away from getting him sigh, ill try with hogan and report back
woven lichen
@unreal cobalt whoops sorry saw that in the other post... but yeah it has a 3-2 faction bonus with Hogan... hopefully twins and Rosa or etc boosts saveas or mirael further
Can try shemira instead of saveas too to take advantage of faction bonus
@swift steppe
Shemira Nemora tasi/Arden lyca Lucius.... twins might work too
unreal cobalt
btw i dont have rosa either haha but finally did it somehow!! thanks! that lucius shield is hell. got it with hogan brutus sav, mir and twins. now only to overcome 8 36 on which ive been for 3 4 days 😄
echo bloom
whats a better lineup, 4 lb(celestial) heroes and 1 hypogean for the def boost or 5 lb(celestial) heroes
i have 1 elite ezizh
vale kraken
4 LB + saveas. Max out that dude and watch him melt enemies
echo bloom
my sav is only e+
unreal cobalt
man i barely finished next one and 3rd to last now in lab in best case scenario only kills my brutus lol, fuck this is getting hard
echo bloom
yeah im surprised youre in hard mode already, youre only slight higher avg level than me and im stuck in 8-12
swift steppe
@woven lichen what would general positioning for the comp you mentioned look like?
echo bloom
my carry is 124 rest are 100
woven lichen
@swift steppe if overleveling shemira... can try
Nemora
-shemira
Lyca
-Lucius
Arden/tasi
(Shemira at high levels can tank a bit... especially after L161)
swift steppe
alright ty!
echo bloom
@woven lichen how would a belinda carry, ezizh, saveas, lucius, hendrik team work out in youre opinion as opposed to rasilind in place of ezizh? (both E rating)
or estrilda in place of sav
woven lichen
@echo bloom that sounds like a very tanky team... ezizh could be positioned such that a weak carry will walk towards him and make the enemy carry vulnerable
echo bloom
what do you mean a weak carry?
i dont mean arena if ythats what you mean, i mean a campaign or kt
woven lichen
@echo bloom so if say saveas or Belinda is in the back, you can position ezizh on the opposite side so they walk into the middle and are exposed to everyone
echo bloom
would the def boost from 1 hypogean be worth sacrificing the 5 lb bonus?
sorry forgot when i posted i went with 3lb 2 celestial, orthros and talene
woven lichen
@echo bloom depends... if you have twins, they are a better pick though since boost both front row and boost attack too
Ezizh is more for preventing ults... can be useful but at lower levels and with an over leveled carry, usually want more hp and attack
echo bloom
if you search i posted what i have earlier and trying to optimize since im stuck in chapter 8
posted my lineup at 1008 my time AST
2 hours 20m ago
woven lichen
@echo bloom with what you have... lb and celestials are fine.. can also add Arden since he can root two enemies at the same time
echo bloom
so youd recommend sticking with lb/clelestials and not swap in exixh for the def boost?
woven lichen
@echo bloom if you really need the def, I would try Brutus to delay longer. Can try ezizh though. Always welcomed to play around with the formation if your initial lb and celestial doesn’t work.
echo bloom
yeah was looing at formation bonuses and saw 1 hypo gives a 30% def boost to the party so was thinking that might help
maybe belinda, rosaline, lucius, orthros, ezizh?
woven lichen
@echo bloom yeah can try that out... but in general only need two tanks... so pick two out of Lucius orthos ezizh hendrick.... and then add Arden or some more support or crowd control
echo bloom
rosa and eziz enrage might make belinda ut spam really good i was thinking too
fallen cliff
Stuck in 14-35 for several days now. Is there a line up that can beat this or afk some more(shem 181 I guess)
woven lichen
@fallen cliff try Rosa instead of Belinda... shemira ulting twice will help a lot
echo bloom
in lab do differnt tiers of relics stack?
fallen cliff
Was running her instead brutus but it was brutal. Will try that thanks
woven lichen
@echo bloom yes relics stack
echo bloom
nice, wasnt sure when i pucked up three relic chests but guess it helped
the relics that say for every battle increase x, are they retroactive in lab or only from that point on?
still oar
Onwards. Not retroactive
echo bloom
so no point picking them up late in lab only early
fresh trellis
Should i still build up Arden if i'm already using an E+ Tasi in a similar role? Otherwise i was going to use the fodder to get Ira L+ for guild hunts. On Ch 9-10
zinc wren
Any help with 26-60? This is the team I’ve seen on YouTube, but I’ve run it hundreds of times with no luck.
woven lichen
@fresh trellis yes since his L141 skill to root three enemies is really strong
@zinc wren probably need faction gear for dodging
@zinc wren
zinc wren
@woven lichen I have full faction gear on Lyca and Tasi, and all M+ on Eironn and Nemora 😔
woven lichen
@zinc wren I would guess faction gear on eironn is most important since middle of fight and damage dealer.... eye eironn, grace lyca, call tasi, conviction/sword Ferael, chalice Nemora
zinc wren
@woven lichen okay, I’ll give that a shot
sand creek
How does this game truly work? Feel like I’m stuck for days to complete one battle in campaign
odd python
@ebon veldt
limpid quail
@sand creek level and ascend your heroes, create a formation that has good team synergy and vary positions to outmatch the enemy lineup. when you need help on a specific stage, post a picture of it like the others together with your hero pool. to understand the basics its best to read the game tips and guides in pinned messages here and in #classic-questions
odd python
@ebon veldt you want enough gear on silvina that shes fast enough to hit a stun on arden before he roots
odd python
im not baiting btw, silvina will flip eironn around in that front slot which opens up more positions in your backline to move heroes around
ebon veldt
eironn will pull their backline?
odd python
nah but he will turn around before tornadoing effectively hitting no one
sand creek
Here’s my formation. Feel like my hero’s are dying very quick here and also in Kong’s tower level 79
limpid quail
@sand creek you want to overlevel your carry for most damage output. shemira is not tanky enough at this level so i would switch her out for ulmus or ogi to get a faction bonus. reset rosaline or rowan in the rickety cart in ranhorn (you only need to level 5 heroes ever) and put all the ressources into belinda
sand creek
Okay I’ll try that. Thank you @limpid quail
west drum
Stuck here. Have a couple free crystal spots and don't mind resetting my heroes if necessary. Any tips?
true monolith
How should I continue?
tidal topaz
sweet crane
steep bluff
What line up to use and who should i concentrate on leveling?
limpid quail
@west drum level your highest ascended heroes, you are stuck at lvl 100 with what you are currently leveling. what you level does not has to be what you use in your lineup. lineup like this maybe
saveas
shemira
arden
lucius/ogi
nemora
or just overlevel your shemira to 140
@true monolith overlevel you carry, thats probably saveas for now and later (lvl 161) shemira
limpid quail
@sweet crane same for you, level your highest ascended heroes (rosa and lucius ar capped at lvl 100). switch saveas and wukong and use nemora instead of rosaline
@steep bluff overlevel your carry, there are also some guides in the pinned messages of #classic-questions for beginners. at your stage almost anything will work when you have an overleveled carry, eg saveas, mirael, safiya, antandra, ira to name a few
@spare crypt reset brutus and level a hero that is L+. to raise your cap, maybe arden to 141 for 3 roots and put him in your lineup for fawkes
sweet crane
As of now my best result was having his Brutus at 1hp and having vedan still to kill, I'll try as you're saying
limpid quail
@sweet crane you need to kill vedan first, before he ults. thats why i put the dps top
spare crypt
It's OK?
sweet crane
That kinda worked out but now I'm I'm facing what I didn't wanted to, some + the spider girl
limpid quail
@spare crypt no arden for fawkes, not for lyca, you need to counter the haste of enemy lyca and get a faction bonus
spare crypt
I win
limpid quail
👍
sweet crane
Went pass it the second I switched nemora with rosa, wasn't really having the dps to take down vedan before his ult, was lacking rosalines buff
steep bluff
@limpid quail thanks man
limpid quail
@sweet crane arden middle back is also a good choice most of the time, might wanna try him out
dark juniper
I‘m stuck can anyone help?
sweet crane
slender blade
I’m stuck at floor 80 in the graveborn tower. Any suggestion?
idle oriole
@slender blade I just passed with a grezhul merc
slender blade
I’m gonna have a look if anyone has one then, thanks :)
idle oriole
Yea him + ur shem should be able to clear it
silver forum
slender ferry
Currently stuck at lab 3rd floor is there any I could do to pass this team ?
limpid quail
@dark juniper arden would come in handy here on top or bottom back to root athalia after her initial jump
@sweet crane switch brutus and lucius and try arden for wukong
@silver forum try
rosa
shemira
rowan
lucius
arden
limpid quail
@slender ferry try to switch orthros or twins for gorvo
slender ferry
Alright thanks
sweet crane
@limpid quail dont have arden in the crystal, should that be my next at it then?
dark juniper
@limpid quail ok i‘ll try him out
limpid quail
@sweet crane he is a great support hero, even though only legendary tier
wintry birch
@split kindle try giving him the best armor possible.
split kindle
He has the best, and i just got lucky and finished
slender ferry
I tried both ways and it’s not helping at all
Does that mean that I won’t progress anymore in lab ?
tawny jewel
Help pls 23 34
pale kettle
@tawny jewel well you’re at a factional disadvantage for a start...
tawny jewel
@pale kettle i know . I am building an eironn for gb teams
novel adder
@tawny jewel hmm im not very well versed in light coz mine is bad..
being an athalia stage its very rng heavy.. you can try
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
grezhul/rent a sig thoran
tasi
You'd need to rely on heavy dodging by lyca
Light i think..
Fawkes/estrilda
Lucius
Rosaline
Belinda
Rowan
tawny jewel
Okay i will try both ty
celest geyser
Trying to clear chapter 23 today if I can 😰
slender ferry
Should I add in Brutus in to the team if so who should I switch him with ?
limpid quail
What are my best lineups for Challenger tournament and heroes of esperia?
young kite
Hey guys stuck on chp10-4 need help
iron kelp
22-50
rare night
Stage 11-40 any advice would be helpful as im stuck thanks 🙂
shy crag
Stuck hard
raw oar
Hey any suggestions for a good all mauler team?
pale kettle
send your roster @raw oar
gritty sail
Help please.
pale kettle
@shy crag Belinda works best in an LB comp.
primal bridge
shy crag
@pale kettle i dont have many from LB
sleek stone
Gb 120 any help?
pale kettle
@primal bridge
Shemira
Lucius
Rowan
Grezhul
Nemora
@gritty sail who does Silvina jump to?
mystic rampart
Hello I'm new, not sure where my focus should be on my team, really do not wanna waste ressources any tip, or heros i should word towards?
tiny echo
Any suggestions for floor 230 of the kings tower
white birch
Supppperrrrr stuck need help please ;-;
slender ferry
Should who should I replace Brutus with top row is my current team
tiny echo
Brutus should carry you early on so I recommend keeping him on your res crystal at the very least 🙂
cerulean hamlet
@white birch Do you have any arden at all?
slender ferry
Oh I mean I want to add him into my current team I just don’t know who to replace him with
cerulean hamlet
Nemora
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Tasi
perhaps?
@tiny echo
could also try Lucius + Rowan + Rosa if lucius survives long enough to ult
white birch
@cerulean hamlet only a rare
cerulean hamlet
@slender ferry You can probably replace Gorvo I'd think but not yet, Brutus isn't too special until like 141 though he's probably decent from 101+ imo
slender ferry
Alright thanks
cerulean hamlet
@white birch Hm, you might want to build one up then but for now he should still be decent I think since his CC is what you want
Tasi
- Brutus/Lucius (only if he survives long enough to ult)
Lyca - Shemira
Arden should do it with decent RNG
@mystic rampart Since you're new, try reading the pins in #classic-questions and this channel first, then ask if you have any questions after that 🙂
white birch
Ok thanks for the tip and I’ll try that
cerulean hamlet
@rare night
Saveas
- Talene
Rosaline - Estrilda/Shemira
Belinda
rare night
@cerulean hamlet ok thanks let me try
tiny echo
@cerulean hamlet those didn’t work unfortunately! I think I maybe a little under levelled for this point so I’ll level up and try another time 🙂
cerulean hamlet
Possibly! I think an arden could help too but levels definitely will x)
carmine cloud
21-52. This has been the best team so far for me. This is the only setup i can get for Nemora to charm Arden before he roots (Due to how lyca works in front row). Shemira without Lyca cannot survive, so i cannot put her bottom row. Arden instead of Tasi doesnt seem to improve anything. Lucius dies faster than Brutus. Am i just too weak or maybe i can improve something? Tried LB team, but they die super fast without CC.
cerulean hamlet
@carmine cloud How is your Shemira gear?
You could honestly try Brutus - Shemira frontline and roll for dodges to get nemora in top spot, evt swap out Tasi for Arden in that setup too
carmine cloud
All GB max except robe, which is LB max. Staff is M+. If i put Nemora top without lyca, i cannot root arden. He roots me faster (with max boots and call). With lyca in front arden has to move closer a little bit which allows Nemora to get the charm off first.
cerulean hamlet
I mean
Nemora
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Arden/Tasi
She should be able to charm with decent boots 🤔
carmine cloud
Yes, i cant get the charm off with this setup. With my shemira boots and call.
Dont have wilder boots
cerulean hamlet
She should be able to unless she targets Kaz/gets interrupted with some RNG during his root so it affects his own team though even without on faction boots
carmine cloud
Ye i cant. She gets rooted before charm goes off. And there are no interrupts/hits inbetween
cerulean hamlet
Hm, weird, and she gets it off with lyca there? I guess an option could be to take out brutus and run
Tasi
- Lyca
Nemora - Shem
Arden
then too though it's still RNG reliant on shem dodge
@lapis basalt
Shemira + Lucius + Baden/Lorsan (if you have him) + Rosaline + Rowan
How much damage do you usually get on Soren?
winter matrix
@lapis basalt I'd go with
Shemira
Estrilda
Rosaline
Lucius
Grezhul
Grezhul so he can turn around Soren and block his charm. Lucius will protect Grezhuls minions. Rosaline will follow Shemira and Estrilda will give everyone energy
lapis basalt
I get very little damage, 70k, while wrizz upwards of 120k (16 rewards) so there is definetly a problem with my comp
carmine cloud
@cerulean hamlet Yes, with lyca front and nemora middle, she can get the charm off. Ill try your suggestion later. Thanks
lapis basalt
I run this normally:
Shemira
Grezhul
Raine
Lucius
Fawkes
winter matrix
@lapis basalt I think that was supposed to be 70M and 120M. Not 70k
lapis basalt
Yeah @winter matrix, M, my bad
cerulean hamlet
Hm, I know you can definitely get above 100m with the former comp, the latter one cwonk listed might work too? Though I think Baden is better than Grezh even at E+ thanks to his damage amp
limpid quail
rosa > fawkes, she lets shemira ult much faster
lapis basalt
Thanks to you both, wrote both down and will try them now.
Both versions worked, one was more volatile than the other, rosaline + shemira got to 120M with around 35 secs left on the clock, then shem got charmed and good bye team
The other got consistently to 120M
dull plover
Would anybody be able to help me choose a line up or improve my current line up out of this?
winter matrix
@lapis basalt It is like that most the time. When shemira gets charmed its over
woven lichen
@dull plover saveas Rowan Brutus Lucius safiya/khasos seems ok... could put Arden and tasi for crowd control. If saveas can tank in front, can replace Brutus or Lucius
worthy island
Need help 23-34
true monolith
Whocshuld I build from my graveborns?
winter matrix
Shemira. But she comes to her peak when 161+. So around chapter 14
woven lichen
@worthy island the one with Isabelle is using her to bait silvina
true monolith
@winter matrix should I worrie about this team earlier?
Could it be better than this?
winter matrix
Thats a good team for what based on the background looks like chapter 6. After a while you'll get better heroes and a better general understanding of the game (what to use, what do etc.)
lofty depot
@true monolith I'd focus on Saveas as damage dealer when you get him and remove Belinda and Mirael. If you have Lucius I'd use him instead of Brutus for now and then for supports I'd use Lyca with Tasi/Nemora/Arden depending on the enemy lineup
pale kettle
Can you help me pick up the best possible team plz!
P.s: I have 5 slots in resonating crystal
lofty depot
Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Hogan/Wu-kong
Rosaline @pale kettle
Maybe Wu-kong instead of Rosaline and put Hogan front, haven't tried Wu-kong yet so see what works best
pale kettle
@lofty depot thank you so much, appreciate that
lofty depot
Overlevel Saveas so remove him from crystal and reset Kelthur and get him to level 100 as soon as you can
You want to use Saveas until you can get Shemira to level 161 (M ascensions) so keep buying her from the lab shop. Don't stop until she is Ascended @pale kettle
lofty depot
@true monolith Keep Brutus then and I would use the faction scrolls for Wilders until you get those. Keep Fawkes for now then and once you hit 81 you can use Arden.
I haven't tried Wu-kong but maybe he would be a good replacement for Brutus until you get Brutus to a higher level
true monolith
The strategy that got me far is fawkes pops enemy from a coffin into burtus ultimate
Thanks for the help!
lofty depot
Well if it ain't broke don't fix it haha, I'd keep Brutus then but definitely get Saveas and level him higher than your other heroes @true monolith
rare night
11-40 help pls
modest lintel
25-8.. was wondering if anyone has any ideas
lofty depot
@analog harness Did you try my lineup
analog harness
Lucius don't support 5s of fighting
lofty depot
Lyca then
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Can switch Nemora to wherever she needs to be to charm
lofty depot
Even if Nemora charms him? @analog harness
analog harness
He is charm one time and nemora die just after
Maybe I need to wait 180 in pentagram
I changed shemira and brutus, brutus killed shemira faster so I won. Thx
lofty depot
scenic swan
can anyone help? 9-32
lofty depot
Use Arden or Lyca instead of Belinda and put Saveas top @scenic swan
red orbit
Does king arthus also counts as every faction like wukong?
pale kettle
limpid spade
Anyone have tips on 21-60
rain oriole
What do your heroes look like?
gilded fractal
gonna try to push tower for the first tkme in a few months haha what ljneup would yall suggest?
rain oriole
@limpid spade
limpid spade
lofty depot
@pale kettle remove Athalia and Nara for Tasi and Lyca
pale kettle
i've tried that many times
but i already have tasi in that team comp, who do i put as the 5th hero
rain oriole
@limpid spade try the lineup I posted, maybe try Ezizh/Athalia if you don't have mehira
rain oriole
Gz :)
pale kettle
@lofty depot worked with tasi, lyca, arden, nara and shemira
indigo brook
Hey, I can’t figure out a good line up can one of y’all help me
pale kettle
sure @indigo brook heroes? are you trying to beat a stage?
pale kettle
what stage is it
indigo brook
Uhhhh let me check
Well I can beat it easily but what I meant too say was what hero’s should I work up too because I don’t want too get the worst hero maxed and stuff like that
?
slender ferry
Would it be better if I use Brutus instead of lyca
woven lichen
@slender ferry not really... Brutus is more of a tank so should use him in front instead of wu Kong or gorvo. Lyca is for hasting and dps. I would probably use
Ira
-Brutus/Hogan
Mirael
-gorvo
Tasi/lyca
slender ferry
Hmm alright thanks
Isn’t Belinda better than mirael also won’t lyca be more productive than ira in the setup ?
@woven lichen
idle oriole
lofty depot
@idle oriole remove Athalia for Tasi or Rowan and put Nemora bottom so she charms Arden
idle oriole
@lofty depot thx it worked 👍
woven lichen
@slender ferry Belinda is only better at higher ascensions or at L161+. Before that, legendary tier heroes are pretty good. Mirael does a nice aoe ult and shields heroes from damage so she can be better than Belinda. Ira or lyca could work but ira is nicer for more damage and the ult
slender ferry
Oh okay thanks and I assume same applies to wu Kong right ?
lofty depot
Athalia isn't great this early and if you need to disable someone (Arden in this case) I'd rather use Nemora to charm and then use Tasi to put all enemies to sleep or Rowan in this case to bait Silvina. Removing Athalia opens up 1 slot for at better support so I'd wait to use her until she is at a higher ascension/level @idle oriole
woven lichen
@slender ferry wu Kong is ok to use. He’s more of a tank so you could use him instead of hogan, Brutus, or gorvo... but only pick two tanks. Usually don’t need more than that. Hogan is easier to ascend and make stronger though
idle oriole
@lofty depot ok will do thx for the tip 👌
slender ferry
The problem with hogan is He keeps on dying quickly but I noticed when I started used wu Kong it was doing way better damage and tanking wise
woven lichen
@slender ferry then you should use wu Kong or Brutus then. Hogan is simply since you can make him L or L+ faster which will mean stronger later on. You can always swap them later on so stick to what works
slender ferry
Alright then thanks for the advice
turbid ridge
Thoughts and ideas, I'm waiting on fodder for a few to evolve, who should I focus in to progress, stuck in chp8
subtle crow
Is there anything wrong with my levelling strategy? Should I focus brutus I instead? Currently at 6-16
modern bison
Am I doing something wrong again 
Tried putting shem in front but she dies instantly
sturdy gust
Anyone got a screenshot for 23-26 without being overlvled? (i.e. max 2 240)
devout idol
Best 3 teams I can form with these heroes ?
delicate trout
23-26, still stuck for days lol, too dayum harrdd, any help?
sturdy gust
@delicate trout i'm getting close with shem,tasi,rowan,mehira,lyca 😒
a lot of rng tho..
raw oar
@pale kettle sorry for the late response
plush patrol
I need help getting past this final labyrinth boss. Any tips what could work for this? I can’t get past the crazy shields they dish out till shemira just wipes us
woven lichen
@plush patrol try Arden for crowd control instead of wu Kong or Fawkes to cancel shields
plush patrol
My other options if I use a tear to bring them back
woven lichen
@plush patrol if you aren’t doing too bad with tanking... twins and athalia would be nice.... I’d do
Twins
-saveas
Estrilda/Rosa
-athalia
Fawkes
(Fawkes coffin and cancel Lucius ult, twin link to boost front, Rosa/estrilda to boost damage even more)
astral grove
Am I doing anything wrong ?
mortal patio
Tips please
gentle spoke
22-59 sos
woven lichen
@astral grove I’d try....
Tasi
-shemira
Nemora
-Lucius
Arden
(Overleveling the carry should hopefully allow some tanking... otherwise may want to use a lb setup too)
Rosa
-ulmus
Rowan
-Lucius
Shemira
@mortal patio if using eironn, you can use him to pull silvina off mages in the front row
Lucius
-Arden/tasi
Eironn
-Brutus
Belinda
Otherwise can try...
Belinda
-Lucius
Raine
-Brutus
Arden
@gentle spoke
gentle spoke
Tnx man 😉
mortal patio
I’ve tried both but they all get melted
woven lichen
@mortal patio due to not strong enough of tanks? In that case... try using Brutus in front then...
Belinda
-Lucius
Saveas
-Brutus
Tasi
(Silvina should jump on tasi)
mortal patio
Brutus is too weak tbh at only elite
woven lichen
@mortal patio depending on how fast your front melts, his invulnerability buys you extra time... hopefully Belinda or saveas can kill one or two heroes by then
gentle spoke
@woven lichen can only use the second suggestion since my fawkes is leg plus. But the second comp has died numerous times so far. Need rng god help?
mortal patio
Thanks bud I’ll give it a try
woven lichen
@gentle spoke yes you need some rng for the rooting so that shemira can at least get ults off. Hopefully get a somewhat close try.
gentle spoke
Tnx
mortal patio
@woven lichen thanks man that worked a treat! Wish I knew good lineups lol
woven lichen
@mortal patio lol. Nice job! 👍 you’ll pick it up with practice... mainly aiming for faction bonus but then figuring out positioning. As a note, saveas Arden mirael are quite good when under L160.... on my alt account, I am using saveas Mirael Hogan Lucius and Rosa (saveas being 20-40 levels above everyone else is a good carry)
mortal patio
Well I’ve completed c8 now, last boss I had to take out sav for raine which made a difference for some reason, was just guess work on my part😂 I had equipment on everyone but now I’m just gonna have it on the 5 I’m using, not sure that’s the right way to go about it though and just got my first piece of leg equipment which is for bel which is nice
scenic swan
any help? 9-38
covert anchor
ur team is the exact same with mine. try using lucius and brutus as front line
gentle spoke
@woven lichen tnx a lot that worked ;)
Do you happen to have a guide for 22-60 as well ? Athalia is merciless
ivory hearth
Is this a good lineup to keep investing into?
woven lichen
@gentle spoke Cool nice work! Here is for 22-60
@scenic swan yeah try Lucius instead of Thoran for bigger faction bonus.
@ivory hearth it is ok for now. Antandra and skreg may need replacing eventually. Safiya is nice to boost saveas and does decent dps. Arden for rooting
ivory hearth
Thanks for that. I noticed Antandra just seems to fall off pretty easily, but she hasn’t been ascended yet. I’ve got Arden almost to E, but haven’t pulled Safiya yet :(
scenic swan
@woven lichen i’m always down to saveas being my last alive vs vedan and isabella. and saveas can’t win that fight😂
umbral jetty
Any help 23-19
woven lichen
@scenic swan you could try safiya or Fawkes instead of Belinda. Safiya boosts damage and slows down vedan... fawkes to coffin
rain oriole
Try this lineup, generally on those types of stages you want to charm the Ferael and get his spirits in his own team, could probably use Grez instead of Luci if he isn't getting shields off @umbral jetty
woven lichen
@umbral jetty
umbral jetty
@scenic swan you should uses this bottom team on your stage potentially
gentle spoke
@woven lichen I love you! Did it
livid cliff
Can someone give a suggestion for soren? Having trouble getting 20m
woven lichen
@gentle spoke cool congrats on passing the chapter! 🙂
minor tundra
Can someone give me some suggestions for 21-54 please?
woven lichen
@livid cliff
Rosa
-shemira
Rowan
-Lucius
Twins/lorsan
gentle spoke
Thanks ;) got shitty summons tho -.-
pale kettle
@minor tundra
Lyca
. Shemira
Rosa
Brutus
Nemora
pale kettle
Nemora
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Lyca
@nuke.pt#0001
ivory breach
ty, trying that
nocturne gazelle
@ivory breach Nara to pull Arden Luci/Shem front Rowan Center and Fawkes to lessen damage pressure until ulti drops if Suzie's suggestion doesn't work
ivory breach
Saveas just melts whatever i put in front, none of them can handle him, i tryied only brutus could stalll long enough for a ulti to come but still wasnt enough
minor tundra
That didn't work for me unfortunately. Thanks anyway though @pale kettle
pale kettle
Might be a lost cause. In the Arcane Lab. Can’t get past this to save my life. Is this possible?
nocturne gazelle
@ivory breach Run Thoran in front and Luci behind for a double tank line up. If your Luci can heal/armor up long enough for Thoran to come back to life then Sav has to go through 3 lives giving Shem more time to ulti with more health hopefully or even double ult
Other than that...you could try Shem/Brut + Rosa/Rowan/Luci and pray for entangle RNG to work in your favour
ivory breach
k trying that ty
nocturne gazelle
If you're lucky I believe first entangle Rosa can dodge or take it, Rowan doesn't care as much if he's entangled, and Brut will eat up the entangle the moment he dies, second entangle will be a big problem essentially you'll have to run the gambit until Shem doesn't get entangled 2x or 3x times but if the stars align you could get a double shem ulti and clear
@pale kettle Sav/Luci + Tele/Rowan/Arden use one of your tears so they all have max energy to start the fight if you are desperate
ivory breach
kk gonna run up those tactics for the next day see if i can clear
pale kettle
Okay. I’ll try it now! I keep getting crushed. I need to put down that Luci fast
scenic swan
any help on this?
nocturne gazelle
@pale kettle if you're really desperate you can just put in shem + rosa + tasi + rowan + fawkes with full energy > 2 shem ults + sleep + luci is out of the picture for energy gen after since he's in coffin
@scenic swan change Belinda with Safiya
wintry birch
@scenic swan only have one carry and make saveas like 10 to 20 levels higher than the rest
pale kettle
That second team was too weak. Can’t deal the proper damage. Thanks though!
nocturne gazelle
@ivory breach there is actually one other thing you could try if you are truly desperate: If you have the AGI gear you could buy an E Athalia and put her up top to deal with Arden + it will give you more faction power. She's just there to be annoying, take hits and be a distraction for Arden/Lyca since I don't think Kaz will change target priority unfortunately
but good luck I remember that stage being super annoying when I was there lol mercs for the win though
@pale kettle wait really the double shem ult wasn't enough? Did you switch your mage gear onto Shem before trying?
pale kettle
Oh wait. I may not of. Lol hold on
should i keep trying this or something else idk, been stuck on it for a bit now
nocturne gazelle
@pale kettle You can put Mehira in the middle and if you have a Fawkes it would eat the Khasos I believe? Rosa last for maybe double ult if damage is the problem, Luci if surviving is the problem? Estrilda for energy generation, damage mitigation + damage increase, and mini stun for a little bit of both?
I tend to never put Shemira in front of Brutus either since it usually is a bad time for her when he spins or Last Grasp procs
pale kettle
alright i'll try, pretty sure my estrild will die right away no matter where i put her ngl idk why she keeps dying so quick on everything, and its mostly just everyone in the back taking too much damage too quick and i'm left with just twitch basically
I removed Rowan and put back in Saveas. Got Luci gone. So now I should be able to continue. Tasi helped a lot since Rosa attached to her. My Shem is too weak
nocturne gazelle
I'm not 100% sure but a lot of the times the coffin target is Khasos and I'm pretty sure he + Vurk are ruining your back line if you can cc one of them that's a lot less pressure. On the other hand Luci/Estrilda being tanky lives a little better especially since they're opposite faction, same with Fwakes
pale kettle
yeah actually fawkes helps a lot but now its still a bit of damage i'm missing, i might try a few more things with mehira or luc too and see which works better lol, thanks
nocturne gazelle
@pale kettle ah yes, you can manipulate the gear so Rosa follows Shemira instead in the future as she follows the highest power. Sometimes I would ungear Tasi to manipulate her stats this way but usually against Silvana. But 2 sleeps can be more advantageous than 2 Shem ults in your case because of Shem level
pale kettle
Ahhhh. Okay gotcha. Yeah. The 2 sleeps helped a lot because my Saveas used 2 Ults as well.
placid flower
This team did wonders for me back in that lvl @pale kettle
nocturne gazelle
@pale kettle good luck! 😄 you could theoretically ungear Brutus altogether since he's going to melt I think? and put better gear on Estrilda to provide all the benefits she brings in
glacial tartan
Any ideas?
sand rune
Anyone got a good team line-up that got them through most or all of Chapter 25? I find myself switching my heroes around a lot more on this level than previous.
pale kettle
nooo rip, i dont think i get any luckier than that, ulmus died before ult, brutus actually got his ult off on the twitch, and mehira got ult off and i was left with sav and brutus
brittle summit
Stuck on 24-46 and in need of help
twin briar
I hate athalia stages. I'm stuck on 23-34 and am lost as to dealing with Athalia and Silvina. I can drop one or the other depending on RNG, but then, one of them ults and it's goodnight for my team
devout cliff
15-28, no idea what to do, been trying for a while
zinc stump
@devout cliff try bel and rosa front row and replace brutus with Luc I beat it with that comp but with Raine instead of Rowan
devout cliff
so lucius goes behind the bel?
Got really close Pog, I think I'll be able to do it with some rng, thanks!
zinc stump
I think that's where I had him but cant pull up the battle history. Either there or slot 3
devout cliff
I mean in the early chapters it doesn't really matter but you should make sure to keep your carries pretty high level compared to the rest of your team, like I have my belinda at 180 while the rest of my team is in the 150 range, your carry will generally full on solo stages for you
floral minnow
So you say i should make 5 people 61 and put all in like lets say shemira?
4people 61* and shemira max?
devout cliff
Generally keep a 20 or 40 level difference
floral minnow
So101 shemira if rest is 61
devout cliff
I guess yeah
floral minnow
I could try that yeah
Thanks tho, because im stuck all the time and diamonds are well, low no good drops :(
Im just not sure if shemira is way to go or not what do you think?
devout cliff
Personally I never had a use for shemira since I pulled so many belindas, but from what everyone else says Shemira is insanely useful for early-mid game since you can get lots of copies from her thanks to the lab, so for sure use her as your carry
floral minnow
Thanks buddy
modern kelp
Who should be my team?
floral minnow
Damnyou got brutus lucky!
modern kelp
Only him is good?
floral minnow
Belinda and shemira as i know are good too
unkempt snow
Wrizz and Soren team?
devout cliff
@unkempt snow Shem, belinda, Lucius,lorsan, athalia maybe? I haven't used lorsan so idk if the nerfs hurt that hard
unkempt snow
for both wrizz and soren?
odd python
@twin briar try
belinda
lucius
rosaline
brutus
rowan
i think lyca would be more effective back middle but i dont think yours has enough dodge, worth a try though
dusty elk
Any ideas for this? I hate Arden so much I could scream 
umbral jetty
23-19 check
odd python
@dusty elk athalia or nemora across from arden, thats your best shot at interrupting the root would swap out lucius imo
umbral jetty
@dusty elk faction bonus is huge
shell heron
Need a little help with lineup please, thank you
tawdry lichen
@shell heron try
Nemora
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Might take some rng with nemora charm. Do you have any artifacts? I would put ulti cast shield on Belinda , and energy of rosa
rocky seal
Idk what heroes I should be focusing for the first bit of the game. EXP has gotten a touch scarce
odd python
@rocky seal just focus on the highest ascended ones to make sure you dont get level capped, team comps wont really come into play at this point (assuming youre around stage 6-12 ish) you already have a decent 3+2 faction setup in your top 5, wukong may be more effective in the short term than brutus though
vale laurel
Hey guys, new player here and idk which heroes should i max first. Currently using: Backline: Ira - Rowan - Isabella. Front: Shemira - Hogan
rocky seal
Idk but Saveas is my crutch on everything
gritty sail
Stuck. Help please.
rocky seal
I see you don't have our lord and savior Saveas /s
summer hatch
Any ideas?
wintry birch
@rocky seal Past level 161 saveas is noob
@gritty sail switch shem and athalia and replace athalia with lucius
@vale laurel Since your new stick with legendary tier heros such as saveas. so reset your shem and upgrade your saveas as high as possible and make him at least 10 to 20 levels higher than the rest
@vale laurel they are easier to ascend however, dont ascend them with ascended tier heros
naive kite
Anything I can change hero and level wise and ascending , I'm stuck at 10-8 and 124 of tower
wintry birch
@naive kite your heros look solid however you have 2 carries so dont use saveas and belinda together also rowan is a very good middle hero and if you use your belinda use rosalin also.
naive kite
Yea I always use rowan in middle back, if I replace belinda, who would be a good replacement? And same for if I use belinda
wintry birch
so if you use belinda also use rosaline and if you use saveas you can use arden seems good
naive kite
This is the team I've been using so far
Is belinda able to tank of she's in front and the highest level
wintry birch
so ideal setup would be
nemora
lucius
rowan
saveas
arden
next
belinda
lucius
rowan
estrilda
rosaline
vale laurel
ty @wintry birch, so max saveas 20 lvls higher than the other ones?
naive kite
Ah OK, I'll try those out thanks dude!
wintry birch
@vale laurel Def
@naive kite no not at all but saveas can and since you have no other tank use estrilda for the moment but try to invest in another one
@naive kite hogan would be the only viable option and those setups you can mix up the order
vale laurel
btw who should i swap him for? Ira?
wintry birch
@vale laurel No shem because she trash until lvl 161
vale laurel
D: okay, was maxing her lol
dusty elk
Nemora immeadiatley gets killed by silvana guess I have to wait for level up
wintry birch
@dusty elk send screenshot of team and heros
prime onyx
Hi can I distribute my levels any better or improve my formation, progress is stagnating pretty hard lately.
velvet slate
Can't get past this level.
summer hatch
Lb tower 120
tulip mesa
Need lineup help
dry smelt
Seems to me u need some form of cc try this
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Thoran
Tasi
Silvina will jump on tasi and Arden will spam cc on them.
gilded fractal
help pls
half sequoia
Should i change stuff
plain kernel
This is my current setup, would love some advice on maybe a better team given my pulls.
spiral moon
Send help
woven lichen
@prime onyx try Rosa instead of Belinda and mirael instead of shemira. Bigger faction bonus and mirael shields... ideally want saveas 20-40 levels above everyone else too
@velvet slate you need some tanks... Hogan or Brutus or etc can try orthos or Hogan
@tulip mesa try shemira on top so she’s away from most of the damage... could try Brutus instead of Thoran too... otherwise maybe wilder trio so tasi/Arden crowd control, Nemora charm and lyca haste
@gilded fractal what stage?
prime onyx
Thanks Aesyr. So ascend a Saveas then?
woven lichen
@half sequoia try to have saveas at 20-40 levels above rest
@prime onyx yes he is the best hero for L61-160.... then shemira from 161-240
prime onyx
Brilliant, cheers mate.
gilded fractal
@woven lichen floor 275 of tower!
woven lichen
@plain kernel use mirael instead of shemira... shemira is more for L161-240.
Nemora
-Hogan
Mirael
-Lucius
Saveas
@gilded fractal
@spiral moon try..
Rowan
-Lucius
Gwyneth
-Arthur
Lyca/fawkes
spiral moon
okay, that took about 20 retries or so, but it worked - thank you @woven lichen
woven lichen
@uneven comet maybe... Arden instead of fawkes might help... or a Rowan
@spiral moon cool 🙂👍
uneven comet
@woven lichen nvm I just retried and somehow got a one-sided win
I'm about to finish the chapter
woven lichen
@uneven comet nice!
spiral moon
oh god the next stage has a Warek FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
uneven comet
prime onyx
@woven lichen sorry for asking so much but would hogan/brutus/saveas/mirael/rosa work well?
uneven comet
This how my battles usually go
woven lichen
@uneven comet yeah Belinda is a strong carry but very ult dependent
uneven comet
Indeed
woven lichen
@prime onyx yes that is a good one too.., 3-2 faction bonus
prime onyx
Kk cheers
uneven comet
This is just disgusting carrying...
stoic ore
So noob question but I'm really struggling with 6-4. Any help would be appreciated. Currently have this: https://i.gyazo.com/07e3e93c64fd1f5d20f1d65cf4f72bbd.jpg
still oar
Maybe make wukong your current carry by overleveling him and replace iZold with khasos for life leech when he has it
naive kite
@stoic ore level your saveus as much as possible, you want it over leveled, like 20-40 above the rest
lofty depot
@unreal talon 1 DPS, 1 or 2 tanks and rest supports. Right now basically any heroes work but if you're going for Wilder meta you want Shemira, Brutus/Lucius, Tasi, Lyca, Nemora/Arden
Mirael is a good DPS until you get Saveas and then you use Saveas until you get Shemira to level 161
unreal talon
@lofty depot Thanks for the tips!
sleek stone
@woven lichen any idea for tower 285?
last wharf
I'm on hard mode on arcane lab and this guys just wipes my team any help?
lofty depot
@last wharf You're using 3 DPS heroes. You should only use 1 and that applies outside of lab as well. Remove Belinda and Shemira and put Arden and Brutus in.
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Arden @last wharf
Also I wouldn't recommend doing hard lab yet because it's more important that you finish it each time and you probably won't at this point. You most likely won't beat Wrizz either without perfect relics
last wharf
Yeah it popped up and I wanted to give it a ho light just have to sit this lab out lol
lofty depot
If you can't beat that enemy just put 1 hero in your team like a level 1 hero and let him kill it and see if you can beat some of the other stages
To get as many lab tokens as possible, don't waste all duras tears @last wharf
slender blade
Any advice for Mauler Tower floor 60?
still oar
Can you merc great khasos @slender blade. His axes and vurk's poison should be easy to rng
slender blade
I’ll try that, thanks :)
barren badge
Need some help, the heroes already on the field are just to make it in one picture.
limpid quail
@barren badge try
tasi
lucius
nemora
shemira
lyca
barren badge
@limpid quail didn't help, Lucius dying too fast nemora not even close to ult nor charm
Got close with
estrilda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Tasi
split peak
Do u really not have the hero xp to lvl lucius?
Thats such an alien concept post lvl200
pale kettle
limpid quail
@pale kettle dont ascend, never fodder ascended tier heroes
limpid quail
ok maybe we wait until he/she asks his question 🙂
split peak
Lol
pale kettle
@limpid quail so I keep it the way it is or any other suggestions?