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@shell heron try Nemora instead of Rosa to charm mirael or khasos
@pale kettle try saveas estrilda orthos Nemora Arden
@stone geode
@winged mulch might need to play with formation some more... usually saveas 20-40 levels over everyone else works well until L160... but try
Arden
-estrilda/Lucius
Khasos
-Lucius/estrilda
Nemora
If niru is last alive... can try putting khasos at bottom to try attacking him first... niru gets stronger as his allies die
Someone can help me for create my first potable team ?
@alpine lark try a lineup with thane Arden/fawkes Lucius Brutus and rowan
With that...
@velvet lotus try shemira Rosa lyca Nemora and grezhul
Thanks^^
@drifting nymph belinda grezhul rowan nemora and rosa?
@drifting nymph Belinda Lucius Rowan Rosa lorsan...
Can also do
Belinda Talene
Lorsan Rosa twins
Wow i completly missed lucius but lucius can be switched out for grezhul
Updated hero list, using top row and seems to be working really well but stuck atm (8-20) and (floor 100) as well as Secrets of the Forest in Peaks of Time
Any glaring upgrades im missing?
@void rune your top row seems fine but can try adding Arden for tasi as he can root 2 enemies and eventually 3
I'll give it a try then, is he a better CC/support overall? having issues with my tanks getting blown up right now.
@void rune he can be... since the rooting can stop several characters at once... can pair with Nemora and lyca too... better speed
What i've been liking about Tasi is how it works with Shemira, that they go almost at the same time letting Shem just nuke the hell out of everything as they sleep~
Tried Nemora a couple times in my runs, didn't get far lol idk if I'm using her wrong
Is it just me or since the mauler heroes buff it’s impossible to use that formation for 27-4 ?
@void rune yeah tasi can be nice too... just depends on stage... Arden helps you crowd control before shemira can reach the ult. Nemora is more for charming the enemies like Ferael or Arden so they crowd control themselves
I'll give him a try anyways, usually when Lucian uses his ult things go smoothly, but he's dying before that happens
@idle girder Evilz ended up swapping nara and Nemora. In general, having highly upgraded faction gear on lyca helps for more dodge.... can also try Brutus/Arthur/Thoran against skreg... twins work well too
13-13, any suggestions?
@pale kettle is the issue that Belinda dies before ulting? Can try swapping Rosa and Lucius. Could also try Arden/Nemora instead of fawkes for additional crowd control or charming khasos
@woven lichen it’s not lyca dying sadly but tasi dying to vurk at the start .
@woven lichen Umm, no... Belinda uses her ult twice to three times (if I'm lucky). The problem is saveas because he picks off everyone except Belinda
maybe try swapping shem and lucius formation-wise? since shem is a spellcaster, i dont think her hp would do well frontline
Rowan
Saveas
Belinda
Lucius
Shemira
@fluid obsidian Maybe try this formation?
also, formation ideas? im levelling up heroes, so dont worry about their current level as it will most likely change anyways. i just started and im trying to get a couple ideas down.
@robust birch I suggest leveling only 5 heros and putting the rest in the resonating crystal
@pale kettle Merc Saveas dies in 2 seconds too 😂
@robust birch I know you said don’t worry about levels but you should reset and only level 5 heroes and rest in resonating crystal. That way you overlevel the 5
ok
i asked the same thing to my guild when i was doing the overlevel thing but everyone like, yelled at me and told me i was making a mistake, lol
I’d focus on belinda, rowan, arden backline and saveas, lucius front for now
Really you wnat your highest ascencion to be the highest leveled heroes
@idle girder hm... tasi dying immediately or after a shot or two? Can Nemora charm Brutus or vurk in time? Otherwise might need better gear or a tank in place of tasi.... a riskier option is Ferael in front for dodging
@pale kettle if she is ulting that many times and not killing saveas... might be a level issue or need to try someone like shemira who can damage everyone
Stuck on 20-37, any suggestions?
@woven lichen It worked out... I ended up using Belinda as a tank by switching her position with Rosaline
@pale kettle ah ok cool. Nice job 👍
@woven lichen she dodges brutus attack most of the time but brisk arrow always hits imma try thoran front
Idk who to put into my lineup
@sullen yarrow that’s still really early game... can use top 5 and keep leveling... saveas and Arden are good options from 61-160... shemira from 161
@woven lichen actually placing Nara to hook vurk and nemora top charming Numisu got me a better try
need help with 18-40
@idle girder ok cool. Maybe up to some rng afterward then
Wait @woven lichen what's 61-160 is that level?
@sullen yarrow yeah that’s the level. Usually saveas is strong for L61-160 and shemira from L161
Been stuck here for a bit. I have 20 faction scrolls to use, whats the best way out of this logjam? Pull gravebound to get a E+ Shemira? Or Wilder?
You need a better damage dealer in your main lineup
Is there anyone in my roster that would be worth pushing to 100?
@woeful wing does Arden Nemora lyca in back work with Nemora charming Arden
@patent trellis reset Hogan mirael ira vedan and use on Brutus
Stuck on stage 11-26 need advice thanks
@rare night try Rosa instead of shemira
@rare night because Belinda gets no ults? Can twins survive in talene’s spot?
Nemora/Arden
-estrilda
Rosa
-Belinda
Twins
Ok i will try that and belinda only gets one ult before dying
The problem is all my team die pretty much instantly so they cant boost belindas ult and then she can only ult once
Somehow got by using
Hendrik
-Belinda
Rowan
-Lucius
Shemira
@pale kettle
Any tips for a more effective line up? 🙂
What’s my best PvP team?
Maybe
Rowan
I>>luc
Eironn
Talene (lyca)
Safiya @granite vale
What does the >> indicate?
Frontline
@granite vale I'd say
Saveas (you have to put him lvl 160)
Brutus
Lyca (or Arden)
Eiroon
Tasi
@high loom
Rosa
-shemira
Rowan
-Lucius
Fawkes?
I tried every combination I could think of but I can't beat it,or is it because I'm low lvl
@tribal lily probably since you have no tanks... too much dps. Try adding golus or Hogan in front. You should make mirael your overleveled carry instead of ankhira
Ok
Should I level my hogan to 140? I have the dust now and I don’t see myself getting anymore heroes to legendary soon
@pale kettle yes after saveas is at 140. Hogan at 121 at least is nice since new skills.
Also would any of these heroes help me with this stage if I put them in the crystal?
@pale kettle Rowan Rosa and safiya are great... safiya’s field would boost saveas... Rowan for healing... Rosa to boost carry... great for Belinda and shemira
Is Wu Kong a Mauler
@fluid obsidian setup looks fine but can try Arden or estrilda instead of Belinda/hendrick
@high loom no he is a celestial... also belongs in #classic-questions
Rip
Yeah I have safiya on one of my alts and she has single handedly carried me farther than any other alt in a single day
Any advice for beating this floor?
@lunar briar try Arden instead of Belinda... maybe estrilda instead of antandra
No dice. Everything just dies so fast. I’ll probably have to wait for some xp, thanks though
Who should I get to mythic plus for chapter 17 khasos or antandra
How can have acces to english channel ingame ? Cause french ppl ...
Can someone point me in the right direction?
You need to change your in game language @flat pendant
@lunar briar if you have a brutus, can try him for tanking too
@nova quest probably whoever you can get to ascended
Unfortunately I dont. I'm actually getting very close with Lucious Saveas front, Estrilda Tasi Arden back
Any tips on beating this ? 🙂
i tried but they get 1 shot
@tawny copper can try Rosa but otherwise don’t see a lot of other options... maybe need more ascension
14-39 any help please🤔
yeah true
@ripe garnet replace Talene with fawkes and Lucius with Brutus?
@woven lichen ok let me try thanks
@woven lichen what about the last of chapter 14-40?
Shemira doesn't solo that?
Been stuck on floor 60 of this tower, any tips?
@ripe garnet might need to flip Brutus and shemira so brutus takes all the damage from Belinda and mirael
@teal hinge try flipping grezhul and nara do safiya doesn’t put up the sheild... otherwise can put her at bottom to stop Arden
Hey guys I was just wondering who I should level up and to what level? I really don’t like Eironn, dies way to quickly
@mortal patio Eironn isn't bad, but your carry should be Saveas. You need to overlevel him, he should be level 100 and other heroes level 60.
You can do
Saveas
Brutus
Titus
Lucius
Belinda
OR
Saveas
Brutus
Eironn
Tasi
Arden
The others won’t last long though will they? I’m up against 91 levels on 6-36
Generally speaking, ulmus or seirus for the last slot in a tasi nemora lyca eironn setup?
@mortal patio the goal is that your carry can survive and have higher level than ennemy team. if the others die, it's no problem if your Saveas wins you the fight
@mortal patio Saveas is a good carry until chapter 13-14 🙂
@rotund ice hey man, aren't you S100 ? : ) hehe
I'd say Ulmus > Seirus, once he's ulted he's beast mode
So in that theory I should just level saveas and no one else lol
@mortal patio yes your Saveas should be +20/+30 levels compared to others
who are the best tanks in wilders? probably seirus and ulmas?
i always hesistate to put eironn is the front...
@violet igloo correct haha. And thanks. I leaned towards him a bit just because seirus tends to push people away from eironn ult
So should I reset them at the rickety?
Is Shemira the go-to carry?
@mortal patio yep, don't be afraid to reset heroes at rickety, honestly it's really cheap in the long run. And you I would put your saveas at level 90 to start with. But your other heros will have to be about level 50/60 in order to do so I think
I mean the others will be useless at 50/60
They only need to survive until saveas kills everything
@halcyon shore Shemira is the go to carry from chap 13/14 until chap 23/24. This is just to give you a quick idea, it's totally possible to use her before chap 13 and after chap 24. Her powerspike is when she is overleveled compared to your other heroes. So when she is level 240 and others heroes 200. However when everyone is level 240+ she has less impact let's say. What chap are you ?
but if your one hero surviving and winning the fight, it is okay for your other 4 to be useless 🙂
in comparison to all 5 being bad
@mortal patio if all your heroes die except Saveas and you win, that's all good. And it's usual that fights have to be retried several times before you get it right
The triple wilder + Brutus + shem setup only works best when shem is overleveled. When everyone is the same lvl you start looking at stuff like ferael, nara, etc
A lot of times you just retry until you get that 1 or 2 extra dodges/crits to pass a stage
yea that's what i do with my belinda haha see if her attacks would be able to one shot the enemies before they kill off all my front lines lol
If it doesn't look like the Belinda ult can 1 shot some enemies I give up using her in the comp
but my other carries right now are a lot worse than my belinda haha like she is 400k when other heroes are at like 150-200k lol
Is this over leveling strategy what makes Tasi so good?
@violet igloo I’m chapter 4 I started yesterday lol.. once I finish the labyrinth I can make a character and wonder if Sherima is a good choice
@halcyon shore Shemira is an excellent choice
Should I reset belinda and do saveus instead, I'm at 7-28. Anything else I should change as well
@naive kite Both are good options, but I think Saveas overleveled is stronger. Also you'll be able to put him to L+ easier because you can open him in packs easier because he is Rare
Belinda was working good last chapter but now hard haha
Belinda is great, but she shines as a DPS later in the game
Does anyone have suggestions for pvp teams with my heroes? I’ve been using Shem/Brutus/Lyca/nemora/athalia for the normal arena and I seem to keep losing even with athalia having sig 30. Id also like some good builds for the three team arena with my heroes too
Lol I got a warning for answering you because my response was too long. I need to edit it
you could try
Shemira
Lyca
Nemora
Tasi
Fera
It's squishy but does lots of damage.
Or
Ferael
Thoran
Nemora
Tasi
Lyca
If your Ferael has good gear and SI (he is +20 which is good)
@unique magnet also
Shemira
Estrilda
Nemora
Tasi
Lyca
Is probably good aswell, with Estrilda your Shemira will ult faster
Just need one more elite or elite+ for legendary+ tasi. Should I save up and get her to lvl 121 or focus on shemira?
Shemira should always be overleveled
Shemira it is.
Reset Lyca and put Shemira lvl 140 and other heroes 100-120
Yep Shemira is queen :)
It's getting late I have to go
Ahh thanks. To anyone else available, once shemira is maxed, should I focus on tasi instead?
Brutus or Lyca 🙃
@still oar ty
Maybe safya instead of rosa allows gwyn to burst saveas down?
Is there anything I can do versus Brutus lol
Having issues getting through the last few missions in the 5 area, any help forming a lineup would be appreciated. Currently using shemira, hendrik, Belinda,rosaline and estrilda+
@modern python
@steel wadi try Nemora to charm Arden or using Rosa instead to boost shemira
What should I pick, I got no idea lol
Thanks, i've tried this but my nemora isnt fast enough to charm Arden so he just stop the root instead of rooting my enemy. I think i need faction boots that i don't currently have.
@halcyon shore usually you want to overlevel your carry by 20-40 levels with saveas being a good one for 61-160. In that stage since using wilder, you have a disadvantage against all maulers. Might be easier if you can use Hogan mirael etc
@modern python other option might be to merc a Gwyneth with dura’s eye to attack Ferael/Arden. Nara could take them down too. Probably still want a Belinda to kill enemies with though
Ohh I see... I just thought Brutus was horrifyingly overpowered but my comp is too heavy wilder
@echo bloom don’t usually need both Belinda and shemira... can replace one with Rosa and then overlevel your carry by 20-40 levels... preferably saveas from 61-160 but you can do Belinda or preferably mirael
Gwyneth seems interesting but i dont' have merc this week and also i don't think my friends guild haver her ascended =/ I'll try tho! Thanks a lot
Antandra or Eironn better to over level?
@naive kite I would save the box until you need it but generally people pick satrana or nara since other two are shop heroes so you can get them at any time... nara is more useful overall though
Ah yea didn't think of saving it haha
@woven lichen so youd recommend, estrilda+, rosaline, hendrik, saveas and either shemira or belinda?
and super level the tank?
@halcyon shore ideally saveas since easier to ascend and keep leveling. Between antandra and eironn... maybe eironn
@echo bloom yes but super level the dps... shemira or Belinda... with high level, they can sometimes tank in front and also kill really fast
@woven lichen thanks for helping out everyone I always see u in here
Saveas the legendary tier?
@naive kite sure appreciate it 🙂
@halcyon shore yes, legendary tiers are actually pretty good when under L161 (saveas mirael Arden Hogan)
I guess I have a rare + saveas but idk
Maybe once I get more maulers I can never get any 😦
Stuck on 11-33, trying to get to 12-2 for mythic guild coins. Wondering if I should have lucius eat hogan? Unfortunately dont have any way to get his SI right now, but wondering if the bump to M will make much of an impact - or if I should wait for AFK to level up. Any other ideas?
@tall solar generally better to wait for more copies of heroes since you don’t know if you’ll get more Lucius later or some other hero. Bumping all heroes to 121 would help a lot and getting saveas even higher
Ok ill hold off, thx. Waiting for dust to 121
You also don't have enough L heroes so you won't be able to level past 120
got 15 fs not sure which to pick and I need fodder in everything mostly
I feel like everyone is weak and if I win it's always a clutch
Help?
Thoughts?
one above derpy dad
Gess I'm going Lightbearer plus Safiya on the new server... Just need a Rowan to replace the Gwendolyn and I'll be good for a while.
Anything I can do so my frontline doesn’t get annihilated?
for heroes of esperia:
i tried making 3 ok-ish teams
is it better to swap sherima/khasos to try make 2 good teams and 1 bad team?
@covert anchor Brutus and Lucius front, Rowan Belinda and Saveas at the back.. see how that works out for you. You can also go Wilder backline and build Arden up.
Brutus Lucius front, Arden Lyca Nemora back.
What about the purple dude is he good or smth
17-6 sucks. Any lineup tips?
Any tips here? Can’t seem to beat this
The entire enemy team is 20 levels above your carry unit. You just need to grind more levels.
Aight, ty although I’m certain I can win the stage with a certain combination, my shemira is underlevelled but having full mythic GB gear 5 stars and +15 SI pumps her power up higher
@rocky hawk try estrilda Gwyneth or Rosa instead of antandra so you get some faction bonuses... shemira at 161 will make a huge difference for you too
@sly cobalt try putting shemira in front if she can tank a bit so she ults faster. Can add Rosa behind her to boost her stats further
@sly marlin nice idea with trying to use faction advantages... but can try to use more of a single faction for bonus to entire team too. Try Lucius mirael estrilda ira nemora (don’t need a tank bottom since Lucius and Rowan are more defensive)
@ember bough try Brutus instead of rixby and move Brutus and saveas to top... niru and Isabelle should be primary targets for your carry
@fair carbon seems that way. Looks like a nice team overall. May not need Rowan early one since good faction bonus and hopefully safiya’s field
Not sure what would be my best line up for Legends/Heroes... I've tried so many combos but I keep getting destroyed
@fluid obsidian try adding Arden Nemora and lyca for more crowd control.
Otherwise Rosa for Belinda and Rowan in middle back? Talene could be in the front ish
@graceful mountain yes focus on two good teams.. if the opponent is smart, they’ll be using strong teams that can counter yours... so it’s better to have good teams than mediocre ones that they can more easily overcome
@covert anchor what purple dude?
@upper kernel
@fervent grove can you use Nemora Arden lyca in the back? Use Nemora to charm the enemy Arden
@tall forge might take some rng... definitely need to avoid enemy Nemora charming your Arden... could also try using Nemora instead of tasi... otherwise Rowan Lucius Rosa is worth a shot too
Thanks @woven lichen that did it
@bright geyser
Nemora
-brutus
Eironn
-tasi
Lyca
Belinda
-Lucius
Rowan
-hendrick
Rosa
Shemira
-grezhul
Nara
-kelthur
Fawkes
(If opponent is higher leveled than you, not much you can do though)
@ember bough cool nice job 🙂👍
Okay I'll give it a shot, I also have these but I'm guessing they're useless at their current stage @woven lichen
@bright geyser yeah rest probably won’t last long. Twins might link if lucky but most likely will die too fast
@bright geyser absolutely do not use those celestial/hypo as elite. My mythic twins can easily get popped. (My heroes are 280 so I probably fight similarly leveled opponents as you do). Also, I love the lightbearer team that aesyr suggested. I don’t have Hendricks so I personally use Brutus in his place as a sort of tank. Hendricks would probably be even better for the final tier of faction bonus
It makes it especially difficult using twins that aren’t high ascension as leilah runs forward into melee range. I have their SI as 20 so they get a 25% def buff if they are apart. So that helps a bit. Unfortunately I only have celestial boots for the twins too.
👍
Who should i use as my 5th?
If you have the option to, I would focus on twins or mehira probably. Especially since I see both of them both in event prizes regularly. Also, cc/buffs can still have a use when at mythic depending on who you pair them with and if they can be protected enough to allow them to use their buffs/cc.
@slate thistle I would probably say use nemora. You can also get copies of her from the labyrinth store. She’s almost always used in wilder teams. Having another wilder would also get you more of the faction team bonus that you can see in the top left of your screen.
@slim sail specifically for this battle my real team is full lb.
If you can get lyca to where she applies the haste buff at the beginning of the fight, I’d go with her then since nothing at those levels will survive.
@slate thistle Kindly wait, you already asked the question here.☺️
👍🏼
Either lyca for haste kaz for evade or nemora to control one of them
Is what im thinking
Depends on what level you are going to get them to. As elite, especially at pretty low levels those ascended heroes will kill them quickly. So lyca would be best bet if she is leveled enough to apply haste
its gonna be lvl 144 cause thats what my crystal is at
so i’ve been playing for a week or 2. can anyone give me some tips??
So either lyca for haste buff or put nemora behind Belinda
I would place nemora so she will charm grezhul. I’m pretty sure she usually charms ones across from her
sounds like a plan im gonna pre-charge my ultis on another fight and get bel to level 161 that boost on her skill would help.
@scenic swan overlevel your carry/dps by 20-40 levels. Saveas is a good carry from 61-160. Arden is also great for crowd control. Buy shemira for L161-240
Best team i can build?
@zinc vale Belinda Rowan Rosa Lucius fawkes
@woven lichen In campaign, PvP and everything?
in general yes, you can slot in estrilda sometimes . There’s no one set comp for everything
And who should the the front 2? @woven lichen
Sometimes you need mehira or lyca on some stages
@zinc vale yeah it is decent in general for campaign and maybe pvp... front two could be Lucius and then Rosa/fawkes/Belinda
Lyca Arden beats enemy lyca Arden, you can’t rely on just one comp 🙂
Reset your crystal to 140, over level Belinda to 180 and put her in front line
Why 140?
Then Lucius to 180. Why 140 because it’s the lowest level for Belinda to 180, then move on to Lucius
I can’t level her to 180 now, and why just level the others to 140 when i can have them in 150?
Oops! I can get her to 180, nvm
you save exp and gold when they’re at 140 so she can be 180. Also over leveling up a carry is one of the best strategies for clearing
@open dome might be a level issue but you can try Arden instead of tasi... maybe Brutus for kaz if she can’t tank vedan... could also try Nemora to charm arden
Should I cash in my saved EXP «ganers»?
Level 180 dps vs enemy level 162 = easy game
Ok! Will try!
also only dps and tank need level/ stats, supports can usually live with minimal stats, against silvina Rowan doesn’t need anything
@woven lichen nemora dies instan
And for your saved exp I would save it to later chapters but depends on your patience
@open dome due to Isabelle? Dies while in backrow?
Will save it then
Any tips? Dont feel im getting much out of shemira since I'm using saveas as my carry, maybe use Arden?
Silvina kill her
@open dome oh probably silvina you mean.. yeah your tasi and Belinda are higher leveled... I see
You may need tasi at a lower level so that you can use Arden and Nemora... tasi is bait for silvina
@west cairn So when i have the opportunity later, should I get Belinda to Ascended first or Lucius to Mythic? Only need a L+ for both
@zinc vale you need 4 more copies of Belinda or Lucius to get to ascended, so I wouldn’t ascend either until you get more copies
Anyone have experience vs eironn? Just wait until fawkes has enough dodge?
Did what you suggested. Also I have all the copies needed for Belinda. @west cairn
Need line-up for floor 315
@woven lichen even with tasi lower lol she still targets nemora
@zinc vale level Lucius instead of shemira. Then reset Belinda when appropriate and put levels into shemira for some stages. As for ascending Belinda, you need to think about what comps you want to play. If you want to go full Lb then yes use Belinda as primary dps and ascend her first. If you are f2p then ascending shemira and Lucius is a better idea
@west cairn Ok, but who should I level instead of Shemira? And If I can get everyone to 141, should I?
Full lb as you can imagine, requires a lot of fodder so you have to think about it yourself. If you’re not a risk taker then ascending Lucius is probably the better choice, or even fawkes xd
@open dome need to make sure tasi has lowest defense compared to Nemora and Arden... so make her gear slightly worse
You can get Lucius to 180 instead of everyone at 141 probably. And you should level Belinda for now but not ascend until you have made an educated decision
but as I said you can reset Belinda and put all levels into shemira on some stages that require shemira to hit everyone
If you think you can pull more lb copies like Lucius Rowan then sure, ascend Belinda. She can carry all the way. However, some stages are better for shemira so you could still consider ascending her in parallel. In the end it also depends on what you like more. I personally hate shemira and used only Belinda cuz (cool kids). Belinda also needs +20 SI and 201 to be really insane
Ah shoot forgot about that. then get everyone to 141 and then to 160
Ok! +20 Sl is her Signature WEAPON? @west cairn But who should I level instead of Shemira?
Whoever you have fodder for to get to M and whoever will have 8 copies, for f2p usually no choice but to ascend shemira and nemora
And si is signature yes
Then I have to level Shemira? @west cairn But only to 140? And I have Belinda’s si at +15 atm
We are confusing levelling and ascending here. You should level lb heroes because they fit in your comp. eventually you can’t level them higher because of the cap(160). Then you have to ascend heroes from other factions to mythic, reset your Lb 160, and move all that xp to mythic hero so you can break 160 cap
Is this fine?
19-38. Am I just too underleveled? Because I have tried this set up and it usually works after many retries, but now it seems I can barely survive.
in your case, it would be level fawkes Lucius to 160, then maybe lyca, then maybe shemira, you’d have 4 people at 160 and you can’t progress. Then you ascend Shemira to mythic to go past 160, and 3 other heroes you have fodder for. Who are those 3 heroes, it’s hard to say now but I would choose 1 of every faction because of fodder issues
List of my heroes
Yes it’s fine!
Ok! Good to know! Thank you so much for your help @west cairn !!!!!
but basically you should think about the 5 heroes you want to take to mythic now, so you can plan your future better
@bright shuttle use Rowan in the middle back, or consider using Arden Lyca back to counter theirs, mirror them and spam repeat stage
Do I change the position of my other three heroes? @west cairn
And try to get a faction bonus
It seems like my arden keeps on dying at the start. Is that suppose to happen or is he meant to root?
Need to push past chap 18 today
Need lineup for kt 297 please
@lean sentinel do you have Lyca ? If so the best line up would be
Shemira
Lucius
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora
Remember that your shemira needs to be overleveled compared to other heroes. I see that you are stuck at 180 due to ascencion
@violet igloo my lyca is only elite+
@pale kettle try
Shemira
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora.
Nemora needs to charm ennemy brutus. It'll require several tries
@lean sentinel well you need to ascend her asap : ) hehe. Otherwise you can go meanwhile
Shemira
Lucius
Belinda
Estrilda
Tasi
@violet igloo Shemira up front?
@violet igloo nvm i see how that word arrangement works 😅
@lean sentinel you only put shemira front when she's overleveled. If your shemira was ascended and you could put her level 220 or 240 then yes you can put her frontline. Otherwise, put her backline.
Ah, yeah the word placement. Lucius and Estrilda are frontline in what I wrote
@violet igloo ok thanks for the advice
no problem. if you have other questions don't hesitate to come here 🙂
Any way to change up ma formation so I can maybe finish this stage?
@cinder smelt arden for belinda and make saveas 140, you dont need 2 carries in your formation
@limpid quail alright , tyvm for the help :)
@spare crypt you should only level up 5 heroes and only 5, I’m counting 8 heroes that are getting levels, you must reset them til you have 5, and make sure those 5 are the highest ascension tier, meaning that they have the highest level caps
Can someone tell me the lineup I should be using for HoE? I need 3 teams so lemme know what kind of teams I should make that would perform the best
Which one should I stick in the crystal, not sure what would be useful
22-42, still can't get past it. Absolutely destroying every lineup I try, recommended mercs don't do anything either. someone plz lol
Hey good morning everyone
Happy new years to all.
I was wondering if anyone can help me with my line up please
@willow moon I think I went through it with shem Brutus tasi lyca Nemora
Put lyca and brutus instead of vedan and hendrik on crystal.
Than try
Arden
Saveas(if niru is opposite of this position)
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
@drifting root That might have worked, pre Skreg buff
@willow moon I did it yesterday ahaha maybe i lucked out or used a mercenary idk. Don't remember for sure as i went from 22 8 to 22 50
Jeez, and you didn't even notice? I've breezed through all of 22 til now, been on it for sooo long. Skreg Warek is ridiculous, I've tried everything.
I have been stuck for days now I have lvl ed up hero's and still nothing works plz help me find a way past this
ditch talene for Lyca, swap Ferael for Athalia
Athalia's sole purpose is to snipe Arden. Lyca's is to speed people up. also Nara likely isn't doing anything for that team, maybe a Tasi swap would be good to try and have her ult combine with Shem's, or your own Arden (though it doesn't seem hot have one)
I don't I didn't know how strong he was in will try tasi now tnx for trying
They all die before ult
Hello everybody I need help and I can use the crystal
@spare crypt reset you graveborn and put in crystal. .. only lvl 5 hero's not 6 and then you'll cream that stage
Yes but do you have an idea
You have 7 hero's with lvl experience in make that to five put rest in to that five= higher crystal
Reset your 5th 24th and 23rd put all ex into the 5 remaining that's all you need to do
I didn't even see that, good catch @grave hollow , he's definitely wasting resources and could way further ahead
réinitialisez-vous graveborn et mettez en cristal. .. seulement lvl 5 hero's
Yeah he has 8 instead of 5
Help pls
The demon ones are graveborn
Yes
@shy crag have you tried
Arden
Lucius
Lyca
Belinda
Nemora ?
slow down on making L and focus on making the better ones M
Don't push leg unless they can go leg+
better to have 5 good M than 15 L
A tip I wish I knew earlier
I know i fucked up with baden but is that a good team ?
also yeah don't make anyone L without having the copies for L+ it's a huge waste
@analog delta have you tried using the revert ascension in the Rickety Cart?
You and reset one of you baden the make him leg+ @analog delta
Didint even know that was a thing ty guys
Your welcome
other than that, yes. save up those Brutus copies and dump Ank and Golus into him when the time comes. Keep Arden around, stop making so many Ls/L+s (again you should only make L if you can make L+ right away) and focus on making fodder for Ms @analog delta
Brutus is a beast
Posting again because I'll always be stuck. Trying a Thoran tanks everything and kills everyone strat, no luck there either. if anyone has any ideas for this cursed stage, please help. I cannot beat it and I've been stuck forever. I don't have mehira and you can't merc her
Why can't I merc her to you send ss
Mehira isn't mercable
You forgot to attach
Use all graveborn if your trying to 1shot
he doesn't even get off an ult if I try that, everyone dies
Send all your heros
@violet igloo yes i did try that
Should I ascend Belinda to M+ or Thane to M?
@willow moon shem brut ferael tasi ardent?
in what order? lol
That orderlol
Shem
brut
Ferael
or
Ferael
Shem
Tasi
brut
1 shem 2 brut 3 fareal 4 tasi 5 arden
yeah Shem doesn't do anything in 1, Warek throws her and that's the end
Switch her with brut
@grave hollow tried that lineup a ton, as soon as Skreg kills brut he plows through everyone else immediately
Swap tasi for phoenix
Phoenix? I don't have Talene if that's who you mean
@pale rover Are you regarding mine? because it is formation/lineup, for 22-42.. as for language, I was looking for a rule on that when it happened, but didn't see anything in pinned messages so I let it be
lol I am indeed very stuck. I still don't quite get the difference between... help on a lineup, and suggestions for a lineup... but I digress
Anyway, back to lineup stuff. If anyone sees this and has any ideas, please @ me or hmu
Switch ardent for athila with shem in front
swapping out Athalia loses the Graveborn bonus, plus he insta dies to Khaos throwing axe anyway
Oh my lord I busted it down after weeks of trying. Full GB team was the way to go.
1 shem 2 king 3 athila 4 farael 5tasi or something
Or even grhez
Ohhh lol I was too slow
Gratz my dude
Shem just had to get her ult off before Thoran died the first time. So while everyone was piling on him and adding up to his retaliation damage, they were also getting chipped away by Shem ult. then Brutus and Skreg were the only two left, and shem and Thoran 2v2'd them.
Who could help me wit my line up
@pale kettle post your lineup as written in the description and people will try to help
@pale kettle you are really early and dont have so many options. you should use arden (old man with beard), he is a very good support hero and dont take 3 dps (shemira, vedan, antandra) thats too much 1-2 are okay
as paddy suggested in the questions channel make sure to read the pinned messages there for beginners guides.
@pale kettle if you want a start up line up you can go
Arden
Shemira
Ogi
Gorvo
Vedan
and make sure to put Shemira as highest level in your team, she has to be +20/30 levels ahead
@violet igloo Yeah kinda figured😂
if you can pick up Nemora, Lyca, Tasi they are great wilder support heroes
Relatively new and struggling with 6-16, any help on improving my lineup / investing in different heroes?
@west drum
Saveas
Skregg
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
You can also replace Skregg with Hogan if it doesn't work. You also need to have your Saveas be at much higher level compared to rest of the team, like +20/30 levels ahead
Thanks @violet igloo !
👍
Try :
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
as a line up. Make sure that you ascend your saveas ASAP so that you can level him to 140
Easy to say when rng is involved
well as a matter of fact RNG is much less involved with Saveas because you can get him in blue rare cards. So all you need is mauler fodder, which will come naturally with time
@young kite you can also make vedan L and overlevel him to 140, should work as well
Thnx tho @limpid quail I'm saving it for shemira
@young kite you need also L+ fodder to make her M, so not a waste at all
Ok good to know
24-60, any ideas ? Athalia is basically one shotting everyone
you're missing 2 Elite mauler fodder
Need help again
@meager zenith Finished that with
Nemora
--Lyca
Ferael
--Brutus
Tasi
And many retries.
I'll try that, thanks
If anyone can offer advice
@grave hollow try
tasi
shemira
lyca
brutus
nemora (charm arden)
👍
See who your fawkes coffins and work from there - nemora to charm arden perhaps so he roots his team - brutus in front of grez and belinda behind him - lucius in front of ulmus with ferael behind him
Nahh no good
@grave hollow try
tasi
lyca
nemora
brutus
shemira
Need line-up for 25-14 ty
@split kindle can try
tasi/lyca
lucius/brutus (not merc)
nemora
saveas
arden
This feels impossible 🥺
@limpid quail that didn't work either, I don't understand, when the fight starts my entire team lose half their hp without being hit
@split kindle thats the khasos axe going though your line, i wanted to counter it with arden roots
estrilda bumps into the first enemy in front of her not the whole team
she should be rooted as well
Arden isn't rooting :/
@alpine lark try
thane
lucius/brutus
fawkes
shemira
nemora
@halcyon shore you dont want eironn to pull the brutus in the middle of your formation. you can try
lyca
eironn
tasi
hendrik
gorvo
an arden would be really beneficial in your wilder setup
Thanks so much @limpid quail
For the life of me I cant beat this labyrinth level, shemira is too strong. Here's their lineup and top 2 rows of mine plus the rest in 2nd pic
@steel root reset niru and level up estrilda instead
That's all my noteworthy heroes. The rest are almost all fodder rare+. Can someone help me to get a good lineup?
And a Niru on Elite
@summer wagon shem Hogan front and lyca nemora tasi back I guess
@summer wagon the lineup you posted is fine for campaign and lab in general for wrizz (also guild hunt) i would go with
shemira
lucius
belinda
hendrik/estrilda
saveas
that's my current lineup. Fultsch told me to get a different one
you have to specify, i told to get a different one for wrizz fight
Tell me something senpai
Thanks for the help. (Didn't see that u were only talking about wrizz sorry)
@unreal cobalt tricky with your hero box....can try
saveas
brutus
arden
gorvo
nemora
also you are holding yourself back by leveling brutus for example. you have others already that can break the 100 cap
@summer wagon yeah it was all about wrizz specificaly
is my current story comp also fine for arena?
@summer wagon yeah its the best comp you can make. later you can upgrade with another tank
17-6 Any help been stuck for days no one in guild this far any advice is appreciated. I just can't get shemira to even go through 1 ult 99% of time nvm 2 to even give her a chance to wipe out enemies
If I'm missing any hero which could help, that information would also be appreciated.
Guys tnx for all help I have now made it to chapter 21
@inner mirage an arden is always very useful. also tasi would be great improvement. you dont need 3 carries and 2 tanks. you also need supports that buy your carry time
nemora (charm arden)
shemira
lyca
brutus/lucius
arden
@limpid quail thats my regular lineup ill try few times and pray dor rng. Who do you think i should replace brutus with? He was awesome at start but now with him just being elite it's bad
@unreal cobalt you dont have that much other options. hogan is a decent tank early game and easy to ascend because he is only L tier
Im stuck on this stage(10-4) help ;-;
Stuck on 6-36 anything obvious or just wait and level?
@sterile sorrel you have a good comp. However your Shemira needs to be overleveled compared to your other heroes. Put her level 100 and others level 60
Lucius should stay at 81 if possible
Aight
I'm stuck so I just wanted to ask for some opinions on a formation:) thanks in advance!
@cinder smelt try
Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Also your Saveas should have higher level, he needs to be +20/30 compared to other heroes
Alright I'll wait a bit and lvl him up then, Thanks alot for the help :3
@cinder smelt you can always reset your other heroes, it's very cheap to do so
your belinda doesn't need to be 120, you only need 1 DPS
Any idea? Stuck here 
Anyway since there was another guy stuck at 20-50 I got through it with this team
Shem lyca front and Nemora tasi athalia back
@Paddy alright I'll try that out, thanks alot
@drifting root you have the right comp. You just need Nemora to charm arden so that he roots ennemies. It'll take a few tries
21-37 any ideas, that comp was what get me closest, double ult from shem at some point
@violet igloo he doesen't cast when charmed I don't know why
That's because they only have 1 mage and shem will silence arden
An arden of your own could work on that stage over nem or evt running both foregoing brutus if Lyca has good dodge gear
@ivory breach Have you tried arden over Lyca?
dont have it
Maybe Lorsan or something? But eh, you're going to need some CC to prevent Tasi from removing your DPS, it shouldn't be too hard to get an arden at just R or something I think
kk ty
Yooo happy New year. Help.
@zenith tusk
Nemora
- Lucius/Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Arden
Maybe see how that goes, evt maybe swap the position of tank and shem if Ira deletes her
Thanks a lot 5 mins ago I got my first Rowan
I did nemora, rowan athalia. Front was shemira and thoran. I switched gear around and completed the stage! Thanks for the advice! @limpid quail
24-60 anyone got any suggestions?
Guys I'm at stage 5, and I got these characters, what is the best comp for now?
@lunar onyx top 5 is fine for now, but focus on leveling up saveas 10-20 levels above everyone else for now as he is ur main dps
21-60 any suggestions
22-38
@drowsy obsidian By that stage, most people would use ferael instead of Shemira. You could potentially use Thoran instead of Grezhul as he could potentially delay bottom longer.
Could also try:
Shemira
-Lyca
Nemora
-Brutus
Tasi
Rowan
-Shemira
Lyca
-Rosa
Lucius
Alternative setup
@idle oriole and is it ok for a second day server? should I keep going? this is like my third server but I think its the best one so far.
need help with 7-36
@lunar onyx yea not bad, u got tasi quite early so that's good
@thick mason post the stage as well pls
@warm roost Try nemora bottom to charm arden. May need Lyca to charm fast enough though. Nara also works on bottom . (might need Shemira at 240 too)
@iron kelp
@thick mason Saveas is usually easier to use than Shemira from L61-160 since his ult allows him to heal back up too. If using Shemira, you could try using Estrilda instead of Tasi so that you get energy faster and have a bigger faction bonus.
@woven lichen thanks, unfortunately I’ve only got E+ fereal, guess I better look for him in future. Will keep trying your suggestions
Hey all. I’ve been enjoying the game and reading up a little on Reddit. I am f2p and have these heroes but feel like I may have done things incorrectly. Any help to maximize would be much appreciated:
@hardy topaz Try using nemora bottom to charm arden or use an arden of your own. Rosa instead of nemora could also work to help boost Shemira's stats and ult twice.
Sincere apologies if this is the wrong channel for the question above!
@woven lichen thanks
@pale kettle still early in the game so most likely didn't do anything that wrong. Guides pinned in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help are great resources though to help you figure out ascension and teams.
For what you have though, I would try to level up saveas by 20-40 levels above everyone else. High dps and can tank in front sometimes. Your top row is ok but probably can take out belinda or shemira for Arden/Nemora/etc. Hogan might help as another tank too
Thanks so much! Will do
@iron kelp 🙂 👍
Thane was such a pain in the ass. Oof
I get stuck on like every stage xd
Maybe
Arden
Lyca
Mehira
Shemira
Tasi/ nemora
Shemira shouldnt face ulmus + kaz for sure imo
Ok @woven lichen will give that a go thank you
@woven lichen just your tip was enough to break through where I was stuck. Thanks again!
@idle oriole You could try switching Arden with Lycas spot, so he'll root tasiand she wont cast away Shemira
@pale kettle 🙂👍
@woven lichen I tried but if I use Arden he gets almost insta shredded by Silvina. Shemora at the bottom works a little but not enough. Main problem is the once mythic Vedan hits his ult I die pretty quickly.
Stuck on 14-35, Shemira + Brutus frontline with Nemora, Lyca, Tasi backline has carried me this far, but idk if it’s starting to fall off, any suggestions?
Arden is typically more useful compared to nemora, esp atm (nemoras charm is quite unreliable rn)
Got it
And sometimes you just need to try a stage often enough, to proceed. Wilders need good rng
@hardy topaz if using Arden or Nemora, make sure Rowan has the lowest def... or add a tasi with lower def too. Saveas might be easier to use as a carry from L61-160. Otherwise could try adding a Rosa to help shemira ult faster or see if she survives in front so she takes damage and builds energy faster
I finally got the twins from the event but hardly reaching 200M now. I think last update broke something or Im doing it wrong? How do I place them?
@onyx basin can try moving twin or Rosa to front... want weakest character to pair in front with carry for survivability.... could try Isabelle or Belinda instead of shemira too. Lorsan boosts damage a lot more if you don’t need Lucius
@woven lichen my goal is 300M, cant reach it with any of the mentioned heroes/comps whiles others do, also before update i was doing 250M easy withour the twins but with belinda, i cnat reach 200+ now.. with same gear and highter level
@onyx basin in general noticing that damage against wrizz and Soren is lower... I would test existing compositions again and see which one is better
@woven lichen ill be glad if you take the time, thanks
I just started 2 days ago, what should I do with this?
I am stuck on 5-20 and just get demolished.
@woeful wing maybe swap nemora for Rowan so she can charm ferael
@cinder cloak try using Lucius saveas estrilda numisu and mirael
@cinder cloak
Saveas
-Lucius
Mirael
-estrilda
Numisu
That worked. Thank you so much.
switch Nem and Tasi @lofty depot
Nem can't charm Arden @pale kettle
doesn't Nemora charm fast enough with Lyca's haste boost?
@pale kettle Nope, tried like 70 times and once or twice she has charmed him but it's like at the last second so he doesn't root either team
does Shem frontline get annihilated?
Yepp, she gets annihilated even at the backline if Serius isn't charmed @pale kettle
@lofty depot You may want to try using Ferael instead of Shemira or a composition with both of them.
I have but it doesn't work either :( Been trying for about 3-4 days now :/ @woven lichen
@lofty depot
Nara
-Lyca
Ferael
-Tasi
Nemora
(Nara stops arden.. could try nemora at top too and nara bottom to stop nemora... Hopefully ferael scare and spirits cc enough)
Alternative might be...
Ferael
-Brutus
Shemira
-Lyca
Tasi/Nemora
Will give it a few tries!
20-30 i am stuck pls help
use Nemora to charm enemy Arden, and Lucius or Brutus in the other frontline spot. @gleaming flax
@woven lichen this formation ended up working of all things, thanks for your help.
@hardy topaz Nice job figuring it out 🙂 👍
@woven lichen Ferael doesn't get his ult of but this is the closest I got due to Tasi. With some good RNG I think I can make it!
@lofty depot good luck!
that seirus ult can get super annoying. good luck though. maybe put call on Ferael?
Hope I'm in the right place but I have some questions about me line up and if I'm focusing the best Heros?
what're your questions? @heady badge
help me out pls :)
@woven lichen
Well at the moment I have Hank,Antandra,Numisu,Rosaline,and Belinda I'm wondering for the time being is this a solid line up for generally everything or could I do better
@lofty depot awesome! 😄
Mehira to the rescue haha!
@lime vapor drop Arden and put nemora in his place. She’s a great support healer and can shield better then Arden
@lime vapor maybe even put Belinda in lyca place as well. Belinda has better multi target damage with her ult imo
@high loom put nemora in for the heals, wilder has advantage so see what kind of backline you can set up
Jeez. Brutal Citadel (Mauler) 161. Help appreciated!
I did so many attempt and i still cant do it i am not even close
Never mind! Got it on the 25th try with good RNG. Mauler 161 for anyone having trouble.
Help please :(
need help pls
@hollow orbit you're missing a strong carry like Saveas or Shemira. Also you should only ascend heroes to legendary when you have another E+ copy to put the hero to L+. Also you are missing faction bonus from your team.
That being said Belinda can do the trick. You can try
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
Tasi
Arden
or if you have Saveas :
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Arden
Thoughts on who I should focus and who can be put on the back burner?
@heady badge you are really early in the game, it's hard to say. You can play :
Belinda
Hogan
Atandra
Estrilda
Numisu
do not fodder ascended tier heroes btw. And you can read the guide that is pinned here and in #classic-questions 🙂
Awesome thanks for the info!
Could anyone help me get to chapter 12 today?? I’m stuck on 11-40 😦
@fluid obsidian you are stuck on your comp you can't over level Shemira. In the future, only ascend heroes to L if you have an E+ copy so that you can put him to L°
Well shem I can get from Lab and Lucius is waiting for event and he can go L+
@fluid obsidian
Id try reset shemira, to get belinda beyond 141. And then.
Tasi
Lucius
Rowan
Belinda
Talene
Ofcourse you can try this and similar lineups first, befor you do the reset thing. Tasi will banish khasos, so belinda and talene will go streight for morvus' face.
If you have fawkes he migjt work even better then tasi here (full Team bonus)
Managed get to 10-8 with epic+ team (new account day 8). Stuck now. I think team just too underpowered. I can make Lucius or Belinda legend (got 3 copies of each and fodder. I assume will get 50 elite reward for 4 Lucius). Any tips on next steps?
@glossy pagoda I’ll give it a shot! Thanks
@neat lagoon please post your whole hero roster and don't upgrade to L without copies for L+. I suggest reading the pinned beginners guide in #classic-questions if you haven't already
forget the first part. I'm blind. you apparently have the copies. still, please post your hero roster
LB roster
just post all screenshots in one go. otherwise you need to wait 20 sec after every ss
I got 38 out of 50 Epics so assume will make hero box reward for Lucius. And Belinda is reward chapter 10 for fourth copy
Ok
What should I go for?
I honestly can't see a better lineup for your situation. maybe hogan instead of hendrik because hogan can stun with his ultimate. your should try to get your saveas to L+ and upgrade him to 160 asap. if you get your 4th lucius upgrade him to L+ too
but you have to understand that arden root has a range. where he is currently at he can't root the enemy saveas
I got 20 faction scrolls. Should I put them to try get Saveas L+
Was saving for 30.... to get guarantee epic
no. you should use them on wilders. wilders is the best faction for faction scrolls in early game as you have the highest chance of getting a useful elite
Ok. Ty
any1 have any tips? who should i focus on? what should i do?
Hello been cruising along well with my lineup just wondering if I could get some suggestions as to what I should do with what I have. Seem to be pulling mostly maulers, all but one of my ascended tier heroes are maulers. Just got a skreg thinking of replacing my Ankhira with it. This is my current lineup and my pool of heros. Thanks in advance for any help.
Any sugestions as to what to do here? Saveas just wrecks my whole team. Stage 25-44
Belinda
Licius
Rowan
Brutus
Rosa
@ember stone
Fawkes maybe will be better to cc someone instead of rowan
Who should I be using rn?
Lucius and Brutus frontline and Bel, Rosa, and one hero of the Wilder trio should be solid for now.
@quiet barn
@lavish pollen saveas still wrecks me:(
who does Fawkes coffin? @ember stone
So no need to swap Belinda with Saveas?
@pale kettle lyca:( no matter where i put fawkes always lyca
Is this a good lineup to build on?
i don't know how great Antandra is with damage dealing, so i recommend a better DPS hero, the best one early game being Saveas. the rest of your team looks fine. @halcyon shore
Her roles are Tank and Burst Damage.. she runs pretty close in damage to Eirron when both were same level except she doesn’t have AoE so I think she fairly good at taking people down one at a time... plus with Tasi there’s a good advantage... probably eventually want Shemira @pale kettle
when she gets to 161, she'll be the best damage dealer for you.
Using the top 5 heros atm but pretty stuck all around. Just pulled twins and seirus. What should my line up changed to if at all?
You're not stuck, you can level up your heroes
i don't have a ton of hero exp and purple dust to use atm and was trying to figure out if i had a more optimal line up to switch to before dumping all my resources.... replace hogan with seirus? replace belinda or fawkes with the twins?
You can’t ascend anybody?
What team would you form out of these heroes, I'm still quite new, so I need some insight on what you would think would work :)
no im very close to legendary shemira but i was told not to even use her til 161
reset Satrana and Arden @dreamy eagle
I’m pretty sure she’s always good
20 diamonds for 11k hero exp? Hardly seems worth. those 2 are from when i first started
@wispy roost Lucius and Hogan frontline, Saveas, Lyca, and Arden backline
Optimal line up would depend on the stage and opponents. I'd keep using hogan because it's easy to ascend and I'd try to put Arden in crystal
@pale kettle i see elijah and lailah are very good on tier list, and they would give facrion bonus, why would you not include her over the others (just asking cause i'm a noob)
@pale kettle or rosaline
Is it shemira time for me? Who else to ascend? Cant pass this fight since last night, getting destroyed, and unsure if i should feed vedan and silvana to shem, or angelo and fire girl to hogan, just got new gb tank baden too
im hard stuck, any suggestions?
We're out of luck 
can anyone offer some help??? who should i use and who should i focus on?
This is not the right channel for that #classic-questions
@unreal cobalt yes it’s fine to go for shemira... she would be highest level character and she is good for 161-240... I don’t know if she would necessarily help you for this fight...
Can try
Arden
-brutus
Rowan/mirael
-saveas/shemira
Nemora
But you should focus on overlevelling a carry (Belinda/saveas and only one of them) and use Arden @scenic swan
Tried a lot of combinations to beat level 100 tower, stuck at campaign too 8-28, any formations you think might work
@past light Rosa is best with characters that rely on ulting a lot.... Belinda and shemira... etc... maybe you can try using shemira instead of Rosa for more of an all graveborn composition. Could replace Brutus with tasi for crowd control
otherwise what stage? A similar stage was beaten with the following
@naive kite not entirely sure on ordering but I would try...
Nemora/belinda
-Lucius
Rowan
-estrilda
Saveas
any help clearing this lvl??
@woven lichen thanks a ton, your tip worked, after few tries i got it without deaths! Never crossed my mind to have sav tank lucious, he cleaned him up quick while i focused on keeping brutus alive
Imma be real with y'all. I just started recently and I have yet to understand what kind of line up is good/ideal to use for arena/PvE. Any help? I tried aiming for a faction but after getting Brutus, I stopped using 5 units of the same faction. Any tips?
@scenic swan ideally should have saveas 20-40 levels above everyone else.. I would also replace Belinda with Arden... at level 81 he should be able to root two enemies.
@unreal cobalt cool nice job
Can anyone help?
What’s a good guild hunting lineup?
@woven lichen do you have any suggestions for this stage (25-31)?
@charred compass the pinned guides in #classic-questions and #lineup-help are a great starting point. You don’t have to worry about faction too much if you have higher ascended characters that work better... from L61-160, saveas and Arden are great but Brutus is good too
@odd python
@pale kettle saveas Belinda Rosa Rowan estrilda
@woven lichen atm what kind of u nits should i be focusing on?
thats my current box. is there any units in particular i should focus on heavily to progress fdaster?
@steep lark can try shemira in front with ogi to see if she ults faster. Do you have a rosa that you could use instead of fawkes?
Do you have 24-40 aesyr
Got only an elite rosa
@steep lark elite is fine. She doesn’t need to be that high... just to get shemira to ult faster
@west cairn
@charred compass Brutus Lucius/izold Arden lyca Nemora
any ideas
anyone can help me craft a good comp for soren?
I’m generally stuck all round on the game, I feel like I’ve hit a barrier everywhere. Who should I be focusing and running as my 5?
@unborn mason not sure what other heroes you have but can try
Belinda
-Brutus
Rowan
-Rosa
Fawkes/Lucius
Ideally can use Nemora to charm Arden. Tasi to banish Isabelle/shemira or Arden to root them... lyca for speed
@fleet hawk shemira estrilda Nemora Rosa Rowan
@lean palm shemira Nemora lyca tasi/Arden and Brutus/Lucius/grezhul
Thank you 🙏
@wispy roost the twins aren't as useful at lower ascension levels. having the faction bonus is not as important as the synergy of your team comp.
@woven lichen i am at 20-60. I rng through so many levels. I think i will try it with mercenary tomorrow
twins can be used as elite in guild war and on some levels for the frontline damage reduction
Any tips 7-16
@sterile sorrel alter some things so that Belinda will be your strongest hero.
Rosa
Lucius
Belinda
Grezhul
Nemora (when you place her on crystal)
I wanna reach 300k in Wrizz boss is it possible ? Or any other better lineup
@pale kettle aight let me try it
@ember bane since shemira does most of the damage and Belinda didn’t do much... try lorsan/twins/athalia in place of Belinda
Help with this stage please!
Can your tidus dodge ogis stun? If yes something like
Rosa
Lucius
Rowan
Tidus
Belinda
may work, or belinda and tidus in switched places
Also does fawkes coffin anyone in ur original Team, or does kaz just dodge it?
It coffins Lyca
Estrilde and Lucius die first, then goes Kaz and Mirael, Shemira dies last, my team gets wiped so fast none of them get to use their ult
Tidus just dies instantly in both positions
Ok nevermind I swapped places between Shemira and Estrilde and won
How is that supposed to work, Shemira's a tank and Estrilde is not...
saveas better as a back row character?
Saveas is a back row character. You can sometimes situationally use him in front, but he's a damage dealer with self sustain so he needs to be protected as much as possible.
so my lineup currently is shemira 100, hedrik 73, rosaline 61, saveas 95, brustus 61, belinda 61. but still having issues in chapter 6
How do I beat this one? Again, Lucius dies first so no shields for the team, Estrilde dies right away, and Shemira dies seconds after using her ultimate
@torn spire Did you try using Shemira on the front line 🙂
Yeah the rest of the team dies and she is left with like 5% of hp, the whole enemy team is almost full health tho
Then you may have it a temporary wall, and you will need stronger units
@torn spire do you have any other wilders, like tasi and Arden?
No
Then i really recommend building an arden, hes one of the best units to stall for shemira ult
Do you have atleast a rowan, if yes him and thoran could help out
@torn spire you can try maybe putting Lucius mid back kaz bot front? I’d also suggest resetting your luc and estrilda to lvl up your numisu? And dwarf guy. Another thing you can do it out in ur Brutus to just stall cause of his immune
Thanks :3
@supple condor tbh I’d just try to get all your heroes to 240 I’m already stuck on stage 2 and most of my team is 240 aside one, u might wanna try Shem not back tho so she doesn’t get hit by the the roots and reading ros lyca spots if you need the haste and sub in luc for ros.
yeah ive tried about 5 other comps, was just testing a yt one, guess it is about time to afk dust tho
I feel that, I’ve been using gems to buy 500 and doing the last three peaks just for dust lol gl to you tho
gl to you too, cya hopefully farther up this hell of a chapter
Any help with 26-60?
Any advice for this floor of the Wilder Tower would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Do I need Fer +20 to clear this?
Help needed on 18-32. Have all 5 dura items.
@robust forum this is what I ran, I’d try putting eiron mid back, tasi front bot, lyca bot back. Nemora stay sane and but kaz front top
Any advice on beating 8-40
hello
I can’t beat it
@gaunt umbra who does silviana jump to?
16-40 i cant beat no one can ult on my team
@chilly ibex take out Rosa, put shem top back, khasos front bot, fawkes back bot. Make sure you have dura’s call on shem and defence artifacts on ur front liners. Maybe duras grace on fawkes
i would suggest: try brutus instead of lucius, or bring up lucius to 161 or get a mercenary@chilly ibex
any help taking on the last lvl of chapter 7?
@Private Stinky#9529 thanks ill try that
@tawdry lichen front liners dies like 3seconds
@chilly ibex can you please try brutus, maybe it works to fill up your ult
@unborn mason i just tried and still no one can ult others dies quickly shemira gets cc
Guess ill need to wait for mercenary reset
Lads I seem to have hit a progression wall, my teams all level 81 but I'm hard stuck in chapter 5
@zinc wren
@mortal crystal
Fawkes
-Lucius
Rowan
-Rosa
Shemira
(Hopefully shemira silences Isabelle and fawkes coffins shemira, otherwise can try Belinda but less crowd control)
Alternative is wilder trio with shemira and Brutus. Nemora charm top or bottom... tasi on side with Brutus so silvina goes to brutus afterward
@scenic swan you may need to get saveas or Belinda higher leveled first. Since carry is close to enemy level, probably harder... can try saveas bottom to try taking care of damage dealers first though
@chilly ibex can try wilders instead
Lyca
-shemira
Arden
-Brutus/tasi
Nemora
@final star that would help but could also try swapping grezhul and Ferael... or grezhul and shemira... mainly need nara to keep Arden busy and shemira to silence Nemora... if nara was ascended could killl Arden hopefully
What kind of team should I make out of this? Right now I'm using lucius, skreg, saveas, eironn, and numisu
@inland kite can try a backrow or Nemora Arden lyca... or Nemora tasi lyca...
Or can even go lb with Rosa Rowan fawkes with Lucius in front
@languid junco your carry or saveas should be 20-40 levels above everyone else... can do
Saveas
-Lucius
Mirael
- skreg
Numisu
(Could also use Arden Nemora for crowd control)
@sly marlin #classic-questions
Ok so I should reset them and focus on getting saveas higher?
Is there better formations to do on the tournament than theses ?
@sly marlin generally want carry or saveas to be 20-40 levels higher than everyone else but try...
Saveas
-Brutus
Mirael
-Lucius
Estrilda/mehira/Nemora
(Has 3-2 faction bonus, mirael ult hits everyone, estrilda boosts attack)
Well I'll try thanks
I've had to gimp the weapon lucius is using so numisu wont keep giving him the haste buff instead of saveas
@languid junco ok cool. You could reset to pump saveas higher or just focus on saveas for now.
I apparently cant get him past 100 without ascension which needs another elite saveas
Ya they just get 1 shot sadly
Stuck here few days now, is there anyway I can change around to make difference :/
Any help with 22-50?
any suggestion?
@inland kite would put nemora instead Belinda, and put lyca in middle
Swap out Arden for Belinda
Also get her to 140 befor Ur other heroes so that Rosaline can snap her super
@woven lichen do you have a ss for 24-54?
10-4
Need some help on 24-40
@rugged wing
arden
lucius
lyca/kaz
shemira
tasi ( call)
@lavish pollen i dont have arden :/
@rugged wing hmm what about nemora instead?
that worked. thanks! @lavish pollen
10-22
@wet meadow way to many tanks my dude throw some dps/support in there
What should I use
your not oging to progress very quick in the game with that many tanks as you main team
and your making to many legendary heroes
need to see the rest of your heroes
@brittle summit
brutus instead of estrilda and fawkes instead of nara?
just a quick sidenote before the other help you see how everyone i have is either Asecended or mythic?if you dojn't have a clear path to that do not make them legendary you already have way too many legendary heroes
What should I do then
first you can reset the level 12 athalia to 0 if you want for the 50 gems you only ever need to level up 5 main heroes may not be worth it since shes so low up to you
do you have any slots open in the resonating crystal ?
Yes I have 7 yes
7 open slots?
Yes
okay put brutus, tasi , lucius in the crystal
any help?
sorry didn't see your L lucius so don't do that LOL
so i think you best team for now is going to be brutus , safiya , tasi , rowan , athalia i think is your best bet also put rowan in your crystal
for the 3/2 faction bonus
I’m new to all this so ye
you need to start finding more wilder heroes also use all your faction scrolls on them you want a lyca,arden,nemora
you made alot of early bad choices lol your using a very shoddy team you don't have what alot of people would say is "meta" heroes for early to play with your using what you got now it's not going to be impossible to course correct it will just take time , these are choices alot of people make without really putting in alot of forethought
go ahead and take a look at the pinned guides in this channel and the questions channel will give you a good idea where to go next but what i said is probally your best bet until you can get more wilders and saveas
Ok I have another account do u think I could get help on that one and focus on that one instead of this one
i mean this account is not in a bad spot especially when you get later it will just take you alittle more time to get it in a good spot
Ok
you over extended on legendary heroes while not investing in good early champs but you did get alot of good pulls wiht the lucius,burtus,rowan,rosa
How would I put my hero’s
your idea lineup is going to be what you have now until you get a hero to 161 which your pretty close solely invest in shemeria from lab store until you get her to ascended tier
Any suggestions? Basically I’m missing a sturdy enough tank to hold their attack so Belinda can charge her special...
@untold trail any arden?
Starting to think its impossible to clear this stage ( 21-60) with what i got atm, have tried every single comp i can imagine and even tried reseting hereos and such.
Only elite. Is he really that good? I keep hearing how op his roots are. @knotty tree
@untold trail his roots are OP for buying time just keep retrying for optimal root RNG and they get better and better until he level caps
Okay! I’ll try to put him in the crystal
Thanks for the help!
also put hte lyca in the middle even if it means having the rosa run alittle more when she uses her attack it will damage and push all enemys back @untold trail buying you even more time
Yeah I know, i was just moving things around randomly to see if it’d work 😅
rng does work sometimes haha not a bad strategy to keep in mind
Again, thank a lot for the help!
np good luck
Hey guys just wondering what I should do now? I’m up against level 101 in campaign and can literally do nothing and don’t even get much when I come back from AFK
@mortal patio needs more wilders look to buy nemora from lab shop and a lyca/arden pull
best course of action is brutus,sav,tasi,lyca,nemora (or switch in arden situationally depending the enemy team your up against)
Cos they only level 81 they die pretty easily cos of being up against 101 opponents
also only level saveas up to 120 next and just keep trying you just need more time and as i said more WILDERS to help your team survive
@past light
nemora/tasi with call
brutus
lyca
shemira
arden
@lavish pollen that change didn't work out for me.
Am able to get hendrik mythic soonish. Should I bother with it or save up? I won't be getting lucius mythic for a while.
Wait until u can get another hero to L/L+ first(preferrable arden) befor u fodder hogan to Hendrik
Also avoid making L heroes with ascended tier heroes, since u may wait for the extra copies a long time, while lacking fodders for those that have the copies by then.
I know Arden is strong but should I still pursue him when I'm already investing into lyca, tasi, and nora. And aren't hogan and Arden different faction? So that's not possible to do that
I have an excess of lightbearer heroes compared to my other factions and can afford to make Hendrick mythic with extra. I just dont have any hero worth getting that even comes close.
I only have single copies for the heroes I want anyways. I just figured getting hendrick to mythic would help progression in some areas and provide some benefits (gems, dust, arena rank, etc) that I wouldn't otherwise be getting if I kept my resources
Mostly I'm just looking for lucius and rosalina, and with only single copies I dont see why I shouldn't go for mythic hendrick
@lavish pollen yeah, that aint working either. Arden will just get 1 shoted, he's like 90 levels under the enemies
Struggling real hard with 10-20, this is what i am up against, and what i got to work with, all help appreciated :) Thanks
Reset everyone to 120 and get saveas to 160
@forest carbon does he carry that much?
Yep, and you generally want your carry to be over levelled
If you don't want to use up the diamonds just afk and focus levelling on sav
I'm 160 sav and the rest 130 at 10-40
Guys is my lineup plebbish or its just my levels?
got a lucky mehira pull on my 5th day 😒 and trying to make the best of it
@forest carbon aah, ok Thanks alot👍
Does belinda already has good enough gear, so rosaline follows her?
Not enough gear would make up for L to M+ gap between her Lucius
This dreaded 21-60
I don't get even close to beating it
@inland kite switch Shem and Nem
@shell heron You should really stop ascending to L you're wasting fodder that could've been spent on other heroes. Try removing Safiya and Rowan for Nemora and Tasi and see if that works
@agile perch Remove Belinda for Lyca. If you have good gear on Saveas use him instead of Shemira and see if that works. You shouldn't use 2 DPS and until Shem is 161 Saveas is generally better.
alright i will try. I dont have good gear for saveas Sadly
@inland kite Same here
well i don't even kill 1 without Belinda @lofty depot
Remove Shem and not Belinda then @agile perch
Not even close but I got tasi merc
@lofty depot any suggestions on this?
@inland kite you should still try to charm Arden or use your own
I dont have an arden.
Arden dies to quick
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora @past light
@shell heron you could make your isabella Mythic right away.. but I don't if it's any good
Not a single death still even with Arden charmed.. sigh*
@lofty depot yeah people tell me to do this and that, hard to have a person tell me what's actually right it seems 😔 I'm just mixing legendaries I wouldn't fodder ascended heroes
Hella mood tho zoddie
❤️
Your goal is to get 5 A heroes. I wouldn't go M Isabella yet until you have 5 L+ and go from there
I've had people tell me I'll quit within 6 months because of how screwed up my team is, that was chapter 12
I get I screwed up, but what advice is that?
Game is fun I enjoy it, very challenging, always great to get tips and ideas on what to do with lineups defiantly
yeah, i was told thane sucked but he carried me from 12 to 18
It was the same for me, I had tons of L heroes and this is my heroes now @inland kite
yeah, well all i get is the freaking "oh why do you have so many L heroes"
and i get so mad about it because im sick of getting that... theres no freaking advice there
They'll go away eventually. The thing is it doesn't screw you over it just slows you down.
Also DM me for further help since we're not talking lineups anymore
idk how to help you zoddie tbh i think morbid is actually a better sound of wisdom than the others wouldve been
Yeah hard to get real information that actually helps you, glad some of you are here to help
Stuck at 4-36
Need help, please!
@twin hound
@unkempt parcel try eironn at top or bottom to kill saveas or Belinda first.... can use tasi instead of saveas to banish the other one
@unreal cobalt try silvina or nara to attack Arden or Nemora...
@pale kettle too tanky.... do Lucius Brutus mirael saveas estrilda
Meta wrizz and soren team?
Hi what should my main team be for campaign? Stuck on 8-8 pls help
need some help on this level what should i do
@woven lichen everone died somehow got nuked fast lol, guess im notdinishing it this week
Any ideas guys n gals?? Just need Shem to get her ulti off but my teams melted before she does, tried a few variations but no luck 😦
Should I buy Skreg or shemira for my line up?
If you have other tips tell me pls I’m new at the game
Anyone able to help me get past this one?
Is saveas worth keeping even if you're p2p? Considering sacrificing him to ascend brutus
@mental trench try more crowd control.
Fawkes instead of Belinda.
Alternatively can try Nemora to charm Ferael, tasi to banish shemira/Isabelle, lyca for speed
@fresh solar stock up on shemira... she is great for L161-240. Before that, she needs more protection and healing. For L61-160, overlevel saveas by 20-40 levels compared to everyone else
@echo bloom use mirael instead of Belinda. Estrilda instead of shemira
Stuck at 6-4.
though belinda and shemira were supposed to be top tier? were supposed to be
@pale kettle depends.. Saveas is still a really strong carry from 61-160 due to damage and healing... also much faster to ascend. If you can ascend Brutus to L+ or higher, he can work too. But also nice to have saveas and Brutus for mauler tower.
@echo bloom that is later on... shemira from L161 - 240, Belinda from L240+. Belinda can be used earlier but shemira is stronger. Also no need for so much dps or carries. Can focus on one or two and surround with support or tanks
kk
Well i made mirael overleveled and balanced the other heros levels but i can't beat the level after several tries and different formations
@woven lichen, yup still got my butt handed to me
@echo bloom
Estrilda
-hendrick
Mirael
-lucius
Saveas?
yup. with estrilda lvl 61 and mirael 100
@echo bloom due to tanks dying too fast? Can try Brutus up front
ill try that
@tribal lily try estrilda instead of ira or silvina
beat it though just by the skin of my teeth
I'll try that
tried with rosaline instead of estrilda to get mirael's skill of quicker
@echo bloom haha nice. Ah good thinking. Estrilda is good for boosting attack and energy for whole party and offtank. Rosalina is fantastic for mirael Belinda or shemira
@tribal lily antandra instead of the other one? Can remove niru
Whats other one
Could need some help. Stuck at 6-4 and don’t know what to do. Overlevel one hero/replacing kaz?
Could use arthur
@pale kettle 48 k cr nice )
Oops 🤦♂️
@tribal lily
Ankhira
-estrilda
Mirael
-Hogan
Antandra
Tanks a lot
@pale kettle overlevel one hero... saveas ideally for L61-160... but Brutus and Mirael work too. Try replacing kaz with estrilda or Rosa
Thankles*
Okay thank you
22-42
So about graveborn tower 180 .whats the best way to deal with it?
I need a little help with forming a team mainly for campaign. I just pulled Lucius. Resetting heroes won't be an issue, I just want the best team with what I have.
any help please? i cannot get through this 7-40
Stuck at 8-28, and not sure what to do.