Who do I replace with fawkes and who should my front line be? Saveas plus another tank? Then maybe fawkes belinda shemira in the back?
#lineup-help
dreamy eagle
coral pier
Preferably saveas backline since he can die pretty fast
So you team can be
Saveas
Estrilda
Fawkes
Antandra
Belinda
For now at least
dreamy eagle
I read on here before saveas can perform better on front but didn’t always find that true myself... I’m just stuck atm and pulled fawkes last night have heard good things about him
You really think I should bench shemira she’s my 2nd strongest?
coral pier
Fawkes is good as a support early on. When you eventually get some levels and ascension on him he can deal good dmg too
@dreamy eagle Shemira starts being amazing at lvl 161. Thats when you replace saveas with her.
But shemira can work instead of antandra too now, but keep in mind that your faction bonus will be worse and shemira might not be able to tank as well for now
dreamy eagle
Am I just being dumb or do I have antandra? Lol
Ohhh it’s the big Boob chick lol I found her. Never used her before I’ll try that ty. Think it’s worth spending diamonds to reset shemira and hogan?
golden crown
What would be the best setup for me?
hollow bloom
11-40 is destroying me, any suggestions?
glacial dagger
Help pls :)
lofty depot
@glacial dagger Show the stage, or what do you want help with?
glacial dagger
Hi! Sorry I'm new here
modern whale
@hollow bloom Lucius estrilda front, shemira mirael and the graveborn with a bow backline
glacial dagger
I am just trying to. Figure out if I should be doing something different
hollow bloom
@modern whale mirael?
glacial dagger
silver forum
modern whale
@hollow bloom ferael
lofty depot
@glacial dagger Use Saveas as damage dealer until Shemira is level 161. Use Hogan in the front since he is a tank. You can keep Rosaline in your lineup
modern whale
@glacial dagger you should upgrade Thane instead of hogan
glacial dagger
Which one is hogan
hollow bloom
So you want Lucius est front, farael, shemira, nara back?
modern whale
@glacial dagger the big lightbearer with a sword
@hollow bloom lucius estrilda front and in the back : Shemira Belinda and Ferael
tawny jewel
Help
hollow bloom
Nope, they all died, first Lucius, then Belinda and warriors, far, then shemira
modern whale
Sorry I tried aha
hollow bloom
Ty anyways
tawny jewel
Anyone?
atomic marten
Have you tried with Bel and/or Fawkes?
woven lichen
@tawny jewel you could try with Arden/Nemora for some additional crowd control. Otherwise can try with Belinda Rosa Rowan Lucius fawkes/estrilda. Also what stage?
@hollow bloom shemira Rowan Rosa/Arden estrilda Lucius?
@glacial dagger try overleveling saveas 10-20 levels over all of your other heroes. Can try pairing with safiya golus thane and Hogan
@silver forum can try using Nemora to charm the enemy Arden. Potentially replace Rosa with Arden/lyca/tasi but lose faction bonus
golden crown
Best setup for me?
woven lichen
@quaint phoenix conceptually your lineup looks fine but probably a lot of rng due to needing the dodge. Can also try the following
quaint phoenix
Okay I'll just keep retrying and use those formations also thanks
woven lichen
@golden crown top five seems fine. A lot of crowd control but definitely need more levels to unlock more skills. Getting saveas for L61 to L160 would be nice.
@quaint phoenix you could also try doing
Shemira
-Lucius/fawkes
Rowan
-fawkes/Lucius/Brutus (Brutus might last the longest)
Rosa
Rosa will always dodge athalia. This also keeps shemira away from most of the action or damage so she can eventually ult
unreal cobalt
Yeah world 6 isnt kind to wilders
pallid lake
post a screenshot of the enemy lineup for me
unreal cobalt
Level sav to 100 asap for damage boost would be my advise, but my tanks still die fast to brutus and golus
unreal cobalt
Lightbearers, hogan would progably survive better, doesnt your arden die in 2 hits like that
forest carbon
Why is your Arden in front lol
pale kettle
why is your tank in the back lol.
forest carbon
Hogan ulmus in front, sav Arden nemora in back
pale kettle
Arden
Grezhul
Saveas
Hogan
Nemora
@young kite
unique locust
May i ask some advices plz ? Ty !
young kite
Everyone says something different
pale kettle
@unique locust what is it you need?
well you're so early in the game that team comp doesn't matter as much as just getting your levels up @young kite
unique locust
Need to optimize my team
forest carbon
Optimal team depends on what yooure fighting against
pale kettle
reset Shem and Fawkesand put them on crystal. level Golus and Ira. @unique locust
novel adder
@modest dove what do you mean by your damage is falling off? is it because rosaline is not following your carry?
well, for wrizz you can try dropping shem for
Belinda (blade)+rosaline (eye) (follows bel), rowan (call), lorsan, thane (?) << thane slot you can try around.. twins if you have, other things you can try are warek, estrilda, lucius/shem (makes sure rosa doesnt follow by giving them worse gear)
for soren.. you can try
Lucius, rosaline, rowan, shemira... last slot baden/warek.. you need to auto your ults..
for baden variant. make sure to lucius ult only right before he charms.. for warek variant, after warek ults twice you stop using his ult and leave him behind soren..
unique locust
Thank you !
pale copper
Stuck on 7-8 running Hogan+Hendrick frontline, Saveras+Rosaline+Rowan backline. Is there a better lineup I can run or do I just need to wait for more hero exp to progress? And should I bump up Saveras to 120 first or the other 4 to 100?
unique locust
@pale kettle which lineup must i use plz ?
pale kettle
your lineup is going to change depending on the heroes in the enemy team. which stage are you stuck at?
unique locust
6-16
forest carbon
@pale copper get your saveas to 120 first. You can play around with Arden lyca and nemora as well and see what works
pale kettle
send a screenshot. @unique locust
atomic marten
@unique locust Brutus/Grezhul/Belinda/Shemira/Fawkes looks solid.
But as said above, sometimes you gonna have to make changes to pass certain stages
unique locust
Nice thank you !
modest dove
i’ve got no idea as well but i’m guessing its due to scaling?like my levels are increasing but shem’s dmg is stagnant (not been upgrading her for a while)..used to do do 310,000,000+ dmg on wrizz average but a few days (3-4 ago) the dmg dropped off to 260-280,000,000..rosa is still following shem and everythg’s the same..dmg just dropped & i’ve noticed this a couple of times b4..will try ur suggested wrizz team tmr,sadly i’ve done my tries today & was about to slp when i saw ur msg..as usual thanx a million @novel adder !!for soren,will baden and warek still work if they are e or e+ only?i tried wat u suggested with athalia b4 but my original comp with nemora fares better surprisingly..prob cos nemora keeps the whole comp alive till the end..plus how impt is manual-ing the ults?i’ve always been auto-ing them 😅
glossy pagoda
Can you Imagine, that i could get significant better rng like this? Or do you c a lineup i could try instead? Going to post my heroes soon.
novel adder
@modest dove not so sure about the damage drop off but could be variance.. just also check your library buffs in case something went off..
for soren.. well manual ulting is more important for shem dps.. because a charmed shem is a dead team.. the charm mechanic is the issue for consistency.. grezhul is also an option i forgot.. previously you could auto with grezhul.. but some small changes and things can go awry..
modest dove
the drop-off for soren is lesser and not as impactful (does not impact no. of boxes) dropping from 160,000,000+ to 140,000,000+..
glossy pagoda
Can you Imagine, that i could get significant better rng like this? Or do you c a lineup i could try instead? Going to post my heroes soon.
modest dove
ahhh icic,yeah 1st thg i checked was library..nothing different there..still kind of a mystery 😅 ya the variance for soren is usually much greater,i’ll try the manual-ing,prob means i gotta do it at x1 speed too right?sorry to ask again but does grezhul e+,warek e+ and baden e work for ur suggestion or they need to b higher ascension levels @novel adder ?
novel adder
@glossy pagoda i'd swap arden and tasi's positioning.
there's not much point in rooting saveas and brutus early when they would be tanked by your own brutus and opponent brutus gets banished anyway.. but arden up top must root khasos.. otherwise he gets interrupted. ideal root targets are khasos, vurk, golus.
@modest dove with good gear and lucius shield should work.. they just need to distract soren.. i doubt you'd break 300m though haha.. so might not be worth meddling with your setup atm..
I think you can do x2.. i do it x2. but with warek.. warek is much simpler which is why i prefer him XD.
modest dove
@novel adder ahhhh,icic..thanx a million then..as usual ur advice,sooooo good!i’ll prob try if i have the time but if not i’ll keep in mind till for when i wanna try hit 300m..for wrizz will try ur suggestion!!fingers crossed i can reach 300m again..btw rowan’s healing is not affected by his ascension level right, only his survivability?
glossy pagoda
@novel adder Thx i tried that quite a few times, sadly to no avail. Would you recommend another backline, if used my m thoran merc herey instead of brutus? I just pushed more then a whole chapter, after getting shem 161, so iam fine with using my merc here.
violet igloo
What's your hero pool @unreal cobalt ? :)
shell heron
Any suggestions please
dim topaz
tranquil crescent
What i should get from those
still oar
Keep it the faction emblem is along investment but with it. Or you can pick the diamonds to summon @tranquil crescent
unreal cobalt
@violet igloo i scrolled through it in video but heres in pic :)
tawny jewel
@woven lichen i prefer the lbs team if possible. Is it a good idea? Idk how make a good lineup with my lbs tho. Like what gear i should use etc
tranquil crescent
@still oar still dont get it , can you tell in number 1-6 what to get ,i am still 5 days in game only still try to understand everything
violet igloo
@unreal cobalt replace Belinda with another hero, you already have Saveas as carry, all she'll do is boost Saveas DPS. You need to get your Saveas to E+ as well, then you continue overleveling him :)
You could give
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Gorvo
Arden
A try, but wilder is weak to mauler but still worth a try
still oar
Let's move to #classic-questions @tranquil crescent. The proper chan to ask
tranquil crescent
okay
unreal cobalt
@violet igloo thats actually my main lineup but it gets destroyed hard by maulers, gorvo dies in 2 hits. I cant level sav over 100 tho :x no luck with sav drops
last wharf
I keep getting wiped on this boss any help?
unreal cobalt
Ill try again after midnight when i get few more levels and hopefully get everyone to 81
woven lichen
@tawny jewel lb can work but sometimes stages are easier with wilder due to the crowd control (Nemora charms for Ferael Arden etc, tasi to banish).
With lb, fawkes for coffin, Rowan and/or Rosa for energy gen, estrilda for offtank and atk with energy boost, Lucius for tanking and shielding. Belinda is usually the main carry but Gwyneth can be a good carry too.
Usually would have call on Rowan, blade Belinda, chalice/drape Lucius and estrilda, eye on gwyn or Rosa, call works on Rosa too, and grace on fawkes
tawny jewel
@woven lichen ok thanks. I reset shen and got my estrilda to 240 and i used lb team. I beat 2 boss stages
violet igloo
@unreal cobalt yes, wait a little bit. Eventually you'll get your Saveas to E+, and other heroes such as Hogan as well. It's fine to be stuck as some point and wait a little while, the game is called AFK Arena after all 🙃
unreal cobalt
Haha yeah, i just like playing it :) thanks
calm pasture
Alright so I’m in 6-8 trying to learn the game. Any advice on a better lineup/formations etc? I currently use the top row of heroes exclusively. Am I sleeping on these other heroes I have?
still oar
Nah you're cool. But we usually overlevel our carry or main dps @calm pasture. Which in your case either eironn or Belinda if you check pinned in here and #classic-questions there is good guides
forest carbon
Or saveas
calm pasture
Fair enough. I’ve been levelling them all 10 at a time starting with belinda then eironn then whatever else
frigid flicker
Other troops beside shemira are getting wiped out fast asf and shemira cant handle all of them
calm pasture
I’ll start just pumping up belinda because she does the most damage
forest carbon
@calm pasture I'd recommend saveas because it'll be easiest to get him to L+ first
frigid flicker
@calm pasture would recommend leveling nemora,eironn and saveas
calm pasture
Right so this is where I was wondering about the faction bonuses. You think I shouldnt worry about it too much at this point?
still oar
Not really. It's good when you can but team synergy take priority @calm pasture
Of you hard pusher then you should since you will need the stats
calm pasture
So what if I went saveas as main, then had ogi, nemora, eironn, and one other? Should I do another tank like hogan or some other hero?
still oar
I would suggest khasos for life leech. He has good syner with saveas
last wharf
I'm hard stuck on this boss on campaign any help?
glossy pagoda
@high loom did u already try tasi lyca arden there?
@last wharf you could try eironn satrana safya as backline, make sure satrana has lower def then safya, so she gets attacked by silvina and explodes in her face
last wharf
Okay thanks
high loom
Haven't tried all three of them so I tried it and without Rowan they die even harder
glossy pagoda
On who did u use durans call?
last wharf
@glossy pagoda wtf your acc so big brian at this game lmao
glossy pagoda
Maybe arden needs it to cc fast enough, but maybe lb backline works with nara against Isabella
high loom
I don't have Nara
woven lichen
@tawny jewel nice job! Yeah if you’re at L240 and above, all lightbringer is nice since shemira is falling off or will soon. The composition of lb can take you all the way to ch 28 or beyond. Might have to tweak line up here and there for Hendricks gwyneth athalia etc but the core should be fine for more stages
tawny jewel
@woven lichen whats better? Lvl 240 lucius belinda estrilda and lvl 200 rownan fawkes rosa or lvl 240 lucius belinda and lvl 220 the others
I need 20k more dust to lvl up my last 200 lvl hero
woven lichen
@tawny jewel probably the first one. Mainly want tanks and carries at highest level. Rowan and Rosa don’t need a high level. Fawkes can be useful higher but debatable depending on if you like using fawkes or estrilda more.
tawny jewel
@woven lichen idk feels like shemira isnt doing as well
woven lichen
@tawny jewel shemira will fall off... and if Belinda is at 240 and you have a full lb crew, you can abandon shemira
tawny jewel
@woven lichen well i also have 7 copies of gwyneth. I will maybe build her later on . Now i am working on eironn and i already have vurk completed. What do you think of these 2?
woven lichen
@tawny jewel eironn is another main carry and is quite strong but he may not fit into your lb party as well especially if you commit to Belinda already. (Both could benefit from +30 sig along with Rowan).
Vurk... isn’t as strong as eironn or Belinda but he can be used. Not as popular though. Can do a lot of damage and needs time to ult.
Gwyneth is very strong for dps and can be used against Arden saveas or anyone that sits in the backrow... can stunlock all three in back when using eye, twin ult, or with Arthur
tawny jewel
@woven lichen well idk which faction should i go for scrolls? 100% lbs?
woven lichen
@tawny jewel this might be straying more into #classic-questions but if you are using lb main party for endgame, I would try to ascend all core lb heroes before diversifying with other heroes. So I would try to ascend at least Lucius Rowan Rosa fawkes estrilda and Belinda (bonus with gwyneth and hendrick)
shell heron
Suggestions please
woven lichen
@shell heron try using Nemora to charm Arden at the bottom so he roots the enemy. May also want to have tasi so silvina jumps on her instead.
Safiya
-Lucius
Saveas
-Brutus
Nemora
shell heron
I haven't got Tasi yet 👀
woven lichen
@shell heron ah dang... ok modifies the lineup above
shell heron
Thank you I'll defiantly try it, thank you
woven lichen
@shell heron silvina will jump on safiya or Nemora... would have been nice to have some other mage for her to jump on... but can see if current setup works at least. Your original lineup in front works better too due to faction advantages
shell heron
Right okay, thank you very much
proven thunder
alway ends up with shemira vs niru and she always loses
tawny jewel
@woven lichen so i have 200 gold emblems. Which sig items should i focus on now?
woven lichen
@tawny jewel Rowan or Belinda first
tawny jewel
@woven lichen should i take belindas sig to 20 or 30?
woven lichen
@tawny jewel it’s safe to take her to 30 if she is your main carry which should be the case for main lb party... but can do 20 first and Rowan to 30
tawny jewel
@woven lichen i will do her up to 20 and maybe rownan 30. I wanna save thos for athalia
@woven lichen also. Should i fodder raine?
woven lichen
@proven thunder Niru gets stronger as more enemies die... so ideally should try to get Belinda to ult on Niru first... also try using Lucius instead of Brutus for bigger faction bonus and more damage
shell heron
Any help please 😁
pale kettle
12-24, need help
woven lichen
@shell heron what about Arden or Nemora instead of mehira? Are you mainly running into issues of not enough damage by saveas or people dying too fast?
@pale kettle are you somewhat close to winning? Could try tasi instead of fawkes so the ult provides additional seconds for energy regen
shell heron
Well I was in stage 9 now I'm half way into half 10 just they're dying to fast now
@woven lichen
Rosaline seemed to do the trick
woven lichen
@shell heron you might be hitting a wall since saveas hit the level cap. If you’re able to ascend and level him further, should be able to progress again. Arden could be helpful too as his 2 or 3 roots can help stall the enemy enough
@shell heron cool. Rosa is following safiya or Lucius?
pale kettle
@woven lichen yes, on best case scenario, I have Isabella left at less than a third health but my Belinda dies before she can use her ultimate to take her down. I'll go try that now, thanks.
maiden gull
How do I avoid Sav one hitting everything in front of him
Last time I tried he threw 8 autos and got 5 kills, by my count
bronze fractal
#lineup-help show me @sweet obsidian your lineup. 
high loom
Lol I was k. That level last week @maiden gull do u have the guy who puts people in cage I went Rowan Rosa Shem Lucian and the guy who puts people in cage
Go from t line Shem so she get ulti faster if she gets 2 ulti it's over
maiden gull
Cage? Fawkes?
sand rune
Mauler 160 - stuck on this level for a few weeks, and its my last 160! Khasos kills the opposing Safiya, then Brutus kills his Ezizh, then everything goes to hell.
eager echo
Im at mauler tower 60 and its the last one i need to get over 60, im realy struggling as maulers are my least numbered faction, im able to put gear from my mains to boost em a little but i kep dying without killing a single enemy cuz of those lucius x2
Aditiinaly im close to getting 4 e+ foders so i can potentialy raise 2 heroes to legendary, as well as i can switch out some heroes on resonating crystal
My issue is im unfamiliar with maulers and need advice, pls @ me when if u respond as i might miss ur msg tnx
strong bramble
21-49
bronze fractal
@sweet obsidian noice you know what Leg+ to aim asap, already read the guides whose best etc etc for your level/ascensions?
sweet obsidian
I was going to go for whicheverf leg+ i could get first
ornate storm
Can suggest my best overall line up
high loom
Belida and Raine is decent combo
ornate storm
Belinda and raine who should I put in with them
supple condor
why
woven lichen
@strong bramble
strong bramble
I don’t have Arden what is the other option
woven lichen
@strong bramble try putting Nemora bottom to charm Arden then
@eager echo it might be hard for you but in general usually climb mauler tower by using safiya or khasos to do most of the damage. Vurk can work too. Safiya’s field and ult can do a lot of damage but she needs time to get the ult off
copper mica
Thane to mythic+ or Rowan to mythic? I have the copies to ascend thane, but have to wait along time for Rowan
strong bramble
ok wish me luck, 21-49 is painful
woven lichen
@supple condor if I remember correctly, lineup was
Fawkes
-Lucius
Rosa
-Rowan
Belinda
Allows Rowan’s potions to reach Belinda when she is pulled over and his ult should stun the Naras.... still a very hard stage
copper mica
Thane will be my 5th ascended if I upgrade him
supple condor
alrighty, ill try lol this is a nightmare
woven lichen
@copper mica if you don’t have 5 ascended yet, then get thane so you aren’t level blocked in the future. Otherwise Rowan to mythic is great since his sig is useful for a lot of parties
eager echo
@woven lichen who would u switch out in my comp then? accounting for resonating crystalas well
supple condor
@woven lichen tried it with this and got close. keep trying for rng?
woven lichen
@eager echo Satrana is good for reducing healing of the lbs. maybe numisu for warek or skreg for more tanking in front and allow khasos and safiya to do damage (if I remember correctly, previous winning compositions had an ascended khasos though)
@supple condor yeah you are at least getting close
eager echo
so make khasos back instead of numisu and take one of those to for front? @woven lichen
unreal cobalt
What would be my best lineup for wrizz? Compared to similar leveled guildmate I'm doing almost half a damage :x using my regular guys from pic (ones not in res crystal)
woven lichen
@eager echo yeah so you could do something like
Khasos
-Brutus
Safiya
-warek
Saveas/satrana
eager echo
@woven lichen ty ill give it a try once my resonating crystal cooldowns are up
woven lichen
@unreal cobalt hm sorta limited options at the moment but I would focus on dps and not as much on crowd control... so could do saveas Brutus/Hogan Belinda Rowan and Nemora.
As a note, the most powerful wrizz formation is Belinda/shemira, Rosa, Rowan, twins, and lorsan
unreal cobalt
Thank you very much, yeah my options are kinda limited but hopefully it improves soon. Will be getting 6th slot in crystal tomorrow as well so thats one more option for next time
unreal cobalt
Did more with hogan, just tried it with him and and another with brutus. Dunno why it says i did x damage but when i go to log it shows less but oh well
woven lichen
@unreal cobalt if you don’t need the healing, can try Brutus instead of Nemora... bigger faction bonus and more damage
supple condor
@woven lichen sorry to bother, but ty for the help! i finally beat it with a merc
woven lichen
@supple condor nice job! 😁👍
unreal cobalt
Ill give it a try tomorrow night but thibmnk her 2 heals helped before being carpet bombed to death haha
woven lichen
@sand rune might simply be a level or rng issue
@pale kettle what stage? Could try Nemora on top to charm Arden and tasi to banish kaz or lyca... hopefully shemira can ult after then... maybe try shemira bottom front if kaz is too strong.
pale kettle
is 21-52
neat light
Need help clearing this without losing any hero
woven lichen
@neat light try Talene or Rosa instead of Ferael for additional healing and more faction bonus?
neat light
Tried both still getting annihilated
woven lichen
@neat light due to eironn? Could try shemira instead of Belinda and athalia on eironn or ira
neat light
@woven lichen i also have these heroes. None of the enemies can die they are just too tanky
glacial dagger
Thanks guys
woven lichen
@neat light are you able to ult a few times though? Can try
Athalia
-Talene
Twin
-Lucius
Estrilda?
(5 faction bonus, twins haste and boost front two, Talene heals, athalia damage and knock eironn, estrilda for more damage and energy)
Could replace Talene or athalia with saveas maybe?
@glacial dagger power level seems close to enemy so should be good... could also try safiya instead of ogi for bigger faction boost and her field boosts saveas too
glacial dagger
Thanks Aes! I'll revert my ogi and spend the points on safiya
tall forge
Which merc should I borrow here? I can’t pass this stage at all
neat light
@woven lichen yea im able to ult a few times. Tried that comp but still couldn’t kill a single one. They’re all at least 20 levels above my heroes
woven lichen
@tall forge what stage is that? Seems like Nemora charms Ferael and Arden roots but is silvina blocking one of them? Usually want to reroute silvina to tasi and position tasi near a tank like Brutus so silvina goes there next
tall forge
@woven lichen stage 17-24, just passed it tho thankfully with rng and a very good khasos merc
woven lichen
@neat light hmmmm then we can try focusing more on damage...
Talene/Rosa
-athalia/shemira
Estrilda
-saveas
Twins
If that still doesn’t work... not sure what else you can do to boost damage except to see if you can level up or ascend some more before timer ends
@tall forge ok cool! 👍
fleet kernel
Cannot figure out what to do here. That Frontline Numisu is impossible with Ulmus behind it.
Even when I do kill Numisu it's not fast enough and then Ulmus tanks me forever
woven lichen
@fleet kernel what stage was that? I would guess,
Tasi
-Nemora
Lyca
-eironn
Ulmus
fleet kernel
@woven lichen 132 wilder tower
woven lichen
@fleet kernel seems like eironn is the most useful since he will take care of numisu quick
@fleet kernel since you are much higher leveled though, can try using eironn for the suction and kaz for quick killing too. So maybe that 2nd composition.
fleet kernel
So I used Kaz instead of Ulmus & then I switched Kaz's gear to Eiron because Eiron needed that big boost. Passed it. @woven lichen
woven lichen
@fleet kernel awesome job! 😃👍
fleet kernel
@silver forum pick Belinda. Then use
Belinda
---Shemira
Rosa
---Lucius
Arden
vale kraken
Merc a stronger Lucius its all u need
odd python
@woven lichen the 25-26 comp worked like a charm, greatly appreciated
plain pewter
25-44. Kicking my ass I’m pretty sure Im overqualified
royal latch
You're giving that Skreg a free kill on Lyca, which gives him a super early ult into Nemora. Put Lucius in front of him. I did that and mine lived most of the time unless the mini Skreg crit. Don't really remember what else I had in my line up but I had Belinda as my main DPS
atomic marten
I'd kick Nemora for Lucius indeed!
pale wigeon
Pls help win this
glossy pagoda
With this line up, i got everyone, but brutus. Any suggestion besides using merc Thoran? I have two more bosses til faction tower unlock, so id like to win this without him (but i used him on the boss befor yesterday, so maybe wishful thinking)
spare aurora
Any thoughts 23-58 is dicking me hard
jaunty ruin
How should I proceed? Mythic elronn or gold+ tasi
limpid quail
@jaunty ruin what about lyca? Her sig is giving accuracy to all teammates. Lyca > tasi
@glossy pagoda when you are in a 1v1 at the end you should be able to do it with better rng
glossy pagoda
I have 30M gold saved up, is it worth to upgrade shem boots from e+ to L+ for 10M, to increase my chances to unlock faction towers Today? Her other equipment is M
limpid quail
@glossy pagoda no, save the gold you will need it later. Buy only with guild coins. The upgrade doesn't give you that much. Just bring your Shem to 180
glossy pagoda
Well i just realised i still had my agi gear on fawkes
, switching it to silvina and trying for good rng was good enough thank you
atomic marten
Belinda, Athalia, a better Rowan?
It's never 100% tho it depends on the merc build
tropic bay
any ideas?) 29-60
waxen beacon
Any suggestions 5-12?
glossy pagoda
@silver forum i used a thoran merc for this yesterday, with wilder backline
willow moon
22-42 is kicking my ass
skreg good now
I've looked around reddit and tried suggested lineups there, this was the most common and I still can't win with it. thoughts?
topaz eagle
Floor 315, any advice? I get insta wipes as soon as skreg ults
last granite
@willow moon does vurk kills arden immediately? Can lucius stand against brutus/skreg?
willow moon
@last granite Lucius dies instantly to Warek Skreg. He survives against Brutus vurk but not long enough to get his ult off
and Arden survives Vurk for a solid amount of time
that's actually the best I do, Arden ties people down long enough to get Tasi and Shem to ult with good rng, but Warek and Skreg run over and wipe Shem out
ebon veldt
what if you take gear off brutus and place him bottom front (so he goes invuln when vurk throws poison at him), and shemira backline with safiya buff with some filler in front
last granite
@willow moon if arden can serve his purpose as cc then keep him. Otherwise might wanna try using mehira as pretty much the enemy are all dps and can lighten your work.
I'd also suggest using athalia against either vurk/khasos and if possible nemora since you kinda need healing but not sure since she's not mythic
@willow moon so something like
Arden
Brutus
Mehira
Shemira
Athalia
willow moon
I buffed lucius' chestplate so he can get his ult off but it does nothing anyway lol
don't have a mehira 🙃
last granite
@willow moon if only lucius is not so ready to die and just stand in the backline lol.
Merc mehira?
lavish pollen
@tropic bay
athalia
rowan
rosa
lucius
twins
Shield stacking may work ?
willow moon
can you merc mehira? maybe none of my friends have her cuz all I see is Ezizh
last granite
@willow moon ahh too bad then, you can definitely merc mehira. She's a bae especially since her energy regen is quick and can ult faster
ember bane
Need line-up for mauler 140 ty
olive thorn
@tropic bay
willow moon
@last granite Not necessarily on topic of this lineup, but should I ascend Kaz, Nem, or Gorvo? Kaz is one dupe away and Nem/Gorvo are 2 away
tropic bay
@olive thorn @lavish pollen thx
willow moon
or should I make two of them M
last granite
@willow moon i heard gorvo is not that good even when he's ascended + sig. I'd suggest nemora first tho cus her healing align with her attack rating.
I heard kaz is great but since you're still using shemira then maybe later after everyone is already 240
willow moon
I asked #mercenary for a Mehira. idk how else to beat that stage.
and I tried experimenting with Athalia v Khaos and Vurk and still got bodied. Arden does more work by shutting down 3 maulers
last granite
@willow moon oof, then I wish you luck. I myself still struggle to get my 5th Ascended lol
ember bane
@last granite any advice for me please ty
how should i set up Artifacts for Mauler
pale rover
Lineup only, guys..
willow moon
that was a lineup question
also @last granite here's someone else beating it with the lineup I mentioned. I'm higher ascended so idk what I'm doing wrong here, other than my Shem being two stars lower, but I can't do a lot about that right now https://imgur.com/Mh0jsJu
last granite
@ember bane I'm not really good with faction tower, sorry 
@willow moon then it's probably rng. Especially if using that lineup you're down to 1-2 enemy units
willow moon
I'm getting consistently 5-0d lol
though sometimes, especially in Towers, I'll be getting 5-0d consistently then just randomly 5-0 them instead
eh, I just got them down to Brutus and Skreg
skreg just plows through everyone as soon as he gets his ult.. if anyone else has advice here's the level again
tall forge
Any tips on what I can do here?
silver forum
ember bane
@clear saddle need advice for mauler flr 140 ty
willow moon
@tall forge before anything, swap Brutus and shem.. that's just basic faction matchup.
then just pray Arden locks down Ira, or swap Lyca and Arden and replace Arden with Athalia so she shuts down Ira (both to protect Shem)
@ember bane i think you're just ahead and way underprepared for it. even with a strong merc Vurk? you could try putting Vurk in the middle so he bombs both Ulmus, Safiya on top, and Khaos on the bottom to hit tasi with axes...
green yoke
Those enemy backline heroes deal half of all my heroes hp
And they do it almost straight away when the battle starts
willow moon
@green yoke shem isn't great til 161, while Rowan is great support he shouldn't be a carry. I'd say wait til you have the resources to get Shem up, which shouldn't be long, or reset your Rowan to give those extra levels to Shem instead. also maybe worth considering swapping Silvina with Hendrick and using Lucius/Hendrick as a LB FL against the Mauler FL
clear saddle
@ember bane you’re ahead of me there bro
willow moon
OH, right. Then yeah you need fodder lol. and nice, what did you do differently?
use Brutus to wall out Kaz and power through to ult nemora, use Athalia to shut down Arden. you can play around with heroes but shutting down Arden with Athalia is the most important bit, that's how I beat it
pretty sure my team was something along the lines of Brutus Shem Lyca Tasi Athalia
tall forge
@willow moon thanks, just passed it with ur help 🙂
willow moon
anytime! glad to contribute when I can
stone steeple
craggy flare
stone steeple
how to get this 60 lvl brutal citadel?
floral onyx
@stone steeple That one is tricky. You might need a loaner Skreg or Warek to help. Try turning off auto and launching your ults when Lucius shields are down all at once
floral onyx
@silver forum I would suggest Shemira in front of Estrilda, Lucius in front of Hogan, Rowan in the middle
If Shemira can survive with Rosaline healing and rowan potions you should get a nice 2 ultimates to win
silver forum
I jsut cant
floral onyx
Keep trying - sometimes Belinda won’t crit, sometimes Arden riots different people
Roots
last granite
@silver forum try
Rosaline
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius
Arden
Otherwise try using tasi instead of rosaline but put tasi against angelo. She should be safe enough there
silver forum
Okay i pass it somehow
stone ginkgo
Any thoughts for 24-52? Don’t have a good Thoran and Ferael in either my lineup or my Merc options, which ruins most of the lineups I’ve seen around. Any help is hugely appreciated 🙂
floral onyx
Does Rosaline survive Athalia’s divebomb? or does she need a Rowan potion to make it?
odd python
@stone ginkgo try
athalia
lyca
lucius/brutus
nemora
shem
stone ginkgo
She survives, although can get killed quick if Athalia chases her. In my lineup Lyca distracts her a bit.
Thanks @odd python I’ll give that a shot 🙂
odd python
you can try rowan in place of nemora too
stone ginkgo
Yeh I’ll give a both a shot, as Nemora alternates being dying very quickly and surviving a while. Will take a fair few tries either way.
tall forge
Last stage of chapter 17, any tips?
odd python
swap arden and lyca
tall forge
Aight I’ll try that
barren badge
Rosalina follows Belinda, tried to weaken belinda so she'd follow Lucius, it's better but not by much
atomic marten
You can try Fawkes instead of Estrilda but idk how your frontlane's gonna be holding up ahah
glossy pagoda
Maybe with frontline rosa, but dunno, my lbs were stronger then that
limpid quail
@barren badge Rosa should follow Belinda for more defense and faster ult. Also try Fawkes with manual ult
solemn narwhal
Guys please help me with this stage, since many weeks sitting here
cedar birch
@pale kettle you have lucian so focus on him
pale kettle
Okay
cedar birch
he's one of the best tanks in the game and has amazing healing properties/defense utility
shy crag
Pls help
grave hollow
Can someone please tell me how to beat this
pale kettle
Lyca
Shem
Rowan
Lucius/Brutus
Ferael
you need to put Nemora on crystal.
@grave hollow
grave hollow
She is now
grave hollow
@pale kettle I go try now
white birch
pale kettle
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi
Shemira
Nemora
@why.#1218
nevermind lol
grave hollow
Still can't even get close but tnx for trying @pale kettle
glossy pagoda
@grave hollow Sa
Maybe
Ferael
Shemira
Lyca
Ulmus (Maybe at 200)
Tasi
I find frontline below 200 really weak for chapter 20
grave hollow
@glossy pagoda I will try ty
limpid quail
@grave hollow Also worth a try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden/tasi
Brutus
Shemira
pale kettle
Thank you @pale kettle I’ll try that lineup in upcoming stages anyways
limpid quail
Rng is always required so you need lots of retries
glossy pagoda
@white birch
I would merc a rowan and try
Fawkes (may need manual ult for brutus)
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Nara
white birch
@glossy pagoda thank you I’ll be sure to try that :D
pale kettle
@white birch change your profile picture.
blissful mist
Need help for 21-41
pale kettle
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Shem
Rosa
@blissful mist
if Nemora doesn't charm Arden fast enough, take out Tasi and put in Lyca.
shy crag
@pale kettle nemora dies instantly and lyca too
blissful mist
@pale kettle ty I'll try that
strange plaza
Any suggestions?
woven lichen
@strange plaza try
Nemora
-Brutus
Arden
-shemira
Lyca
(Nemora charms mirael or Belinda and shemira in front to ult faster)
@blissful mist
@pale kettle try tasi instead of lorsan and Nemora on top to charm isabelle
Nemora
-hendrick
Belinda
-Hogan/estrilda
Tasi
strange plaza
Thanks a lot for the help, worked on first try @woven lichen.
woven lichen
@young kite need screenshot of stage.
But...
Rosa
-thane
Eironn
-Hogan
Nemora?
woven lichen
@young kite hm so you could try the lineup I gave...
Rosa
-thane
Eironn
-Hogan
Nemora
(3-2 faction bonus, if you have saveas, would be nice to use saveas and skreg instead of eironn and Hogan/thane)
shell heron
Any ideas please
woven lichen
@shell heron try Nemora instead of mehira and place her bottom to charm saveas or Isabelle?
quasi sluice
What’s your lineup on arena guys?
shell heron
Still hard, doesn't work really @woven lichen
spare aurora
Any ideas?
maiden gull
I feel like I have 3 possible “carries” idk where to go eith it
rotund copper
Need help on 11-36
obsidian kindle
25-48 athalia kills me in 1 ulty
buoyant abyss
cedar birch
whats up
buoyant abyss
HELP
cedar birch
get belinda out of frontline, put estrilda, remove fawkes, add rosa
call on rowan, sword on belinda, eye on rosa, drape/or cup on lucy
use whatever you have left on estrilda
buoyant abyss
Its a merc
cedar birch
just try what I said then
if it doesn't work I did my best but the power disparity is very large with that stage
buoyant abyss
Yea didn’t work
drowsy valley
cedar birch
you're sub ~2m power
buoyant abyss
Yep
drowsy valley
Need halp 
cedar birch
not sure if anything can really be done, but maybe someone else has some better advice
I tried /shrug
cedar birch
You need help with that stage above that you posted?
drowsy valley
I would love you 
cedar birch
Try swapping Thorin and Hogan I suppose
buoyant abyss
._.
pale kettle
@buoyant abyss do you need something?
limpid quail
@buoyant abyss have you tried Fawkes front so he coffins someone?
cedar birch
@drowsy valley hey no problem, just try working on getting your main 5 maxed, focus more on Thorinn than Hogan, and you'll be cool
limpid quail
This not the Hobbit, it's thoran here 😂
cedar birch
oh right
ebon veldt
team 3 in legend's championship. Baden a valid frontline in pvp or should i swap to one of the wilders
cedar birch
I don't use him very much so had a brainfart
rotund copper
Need help on 11-36
limpid quail
@ebon veldt he can work, so does grezhul, ulmus and gorvo. But always depends on who attacks. Grezhul is maybe better when M
ebon veldt
thanks 
maiden gull
Sorry for reposting, but does anyone have any ideas here
drowsy valley
@cedar birch okay, thank u. So holgan isn't that good? I don't really know which champ is good and which isn't
limpid quail
@drowsy valley he is a decent early game tank and easy to ascend since he is L tier
cedar birch
Hogan is fine but Thoran is an ascended tier hero, which is the tier you should be focusing on leveling/ascending
as well as the fact that either way you get the 3/2 faction bonus
Also if you drop hogan, all five of those heroes are ascended tier as well
limpid quail
Having all ascended tier doesn't give a bonus though, if they don't synergize they will suck more than having all L tier with good synergy. This is for early game only of course
For early game I also recommend to level L tier to 160 because you will savely get the copies to bring them to L+ whereas ascended tier are way more rng based
drowsy valley
Ahh I understand 🤔
Btw are u guys leveling just 5 heroes since u can use the crystalor do u level some more?
still oar
Yes @drowsy valley. Only 5 and no more.
drowsy valley
Thanks!
cedar birch
@limpid quail I was just saying that in general he should be focusing more on the heroes that can go farther level/ascension wise, not that there's any bonus, should've clarified sorry.
drowsy valley
So should I reset hogan? And lvl someone else instead since he only goes up to 160?
limpid quail
Not yet
Until 160 he is fine to level because he is save to get there and after that you can use him as food and get the resources back to level the one you have ascended to M
drowsy valley
K
celest geyser
Last 100th floor of faction towers for me, any tips?
limpid quail
@celest geyser khasos behind brutus on either top or bottom should kill the opposing side
woven lichen
@shell heron you could try
Belinda
-Brutus
Rosa
-Lucius
saveas
If not, may need to reach 121 for the boost and skill
pale kettle
@unreal cobalt you do realize you are able to break 100 level cap right?
@maiden gull @rotund copper do you guys still need help?
maiden gull
Yeah I would really appreciate it @pale kettle
rotund copper
@pale kettle yep!
pale kettle
@rotund copper
Lyca
Hendrik
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
unreal cobalt
@pale kettle ye but i capped sav long time ago and now working on others to get to 101 and then ill focus on someone
pale kettle
@maiden gull can you post better screenshots? those are really blurry
rotund copper
Cool. I'll give that a shot
pale kettle
@unreal cobalt i'm saying that you have enough E+ heroes to break level cap.
@maiden gull what's the stage you're stuck on?
tall kite
Help
maiden gull
The top screenshot shows it, I think it's 11-8
pale kettle
can you send both the screenshot of your roster and the stage in one go, so I have them next to each other? it would help me help you
maiden gull
Yeah of course, my phone was charging haha I have to go grab it one second!
pale kettle
@tall kite switch out Rowan for either Nemora or Lyca, whichever works better. your team comp looks great so I'm surprised you're stuck on that stage
tall kite
Yeah idk either maybe it’sRNG
maiden gull
Is this better @pale kettle
pale kettle
who does Silvina jump to? @maiden gull
unreal cobalt
@pale kettle i will, no rush now i think since everyones dying easily so might as well levle them a bit. Whats the best for soren btw, can i heal on him? Same team as for wizz?
maiden gull
Talene
pale kettle
@unreal cobalt the best I can see right now is Brutus, Saveas, Rowan, Silvina, and Hogan. Silvina is especially handy if she can make Soren turn around, so he doesn't charm the entire team
@maiden gull
Nemora
Estrilda
Rowan
. Brutus
Saveas
maiden gull
Is that worth even to drop my factional bonuses?
pale kettle
faction bonuses don't matter nowhere as much as team comp and synergy does. i used to trip over faction bonus too
maiden gull
KK, good call, ty
silent wraith
try to level shem to lvl 180 first
white dagger
Stage 20-54 not sure how to beat it, I keep getting wiped each time
unreal cobalt
Thanks suzie bae 
still oar
How good is your athalia at nagging Arden @white dagger?
Maybe
Shem
Arthur
Rowan
Luc
Athalia
Idk how long arhur can survive but should be good if he holds until Shem can ult. or
Nemora
Shem
Lyca(Arden)
luc
Arden(lyca)
Charm ira and root estrilda and arden
@white dagger
peak stratus
any ideas ?
white dagger
Ty @still oar
mortal cipher
Been stuck on 23-34 for 3 weeks now. At this point, I'm even thinking of buying Arthur. Please help!
lofty depot
wintry ether
So what is an ideal lb comp if you had infinite resources to build said comp?
loud acorn
15-40
silent wraith
@mortal cipher no lyca?
mortal cipher
@silent wraith I forgot to post my full lineup, this everything minus the 5 ascended seen in my first SS.
woven lichen
@mortal cipher
@wintry ether depends on enemy but usually the core consists of Lucius Rowan Rosa.... carry of Belinda or Gwyneth... and then estrilda hendrick fawkes (usually Fawkes)
@lofty depot what stage? Potentially could swap Thoran and lyca depending on dodge and which side needs to handle the burst
silent wraith
@mortal cipher lyca must pretty much stay alive while tanking atha to allow your tasi+shem to ult
woven lichen
@peak stratus what stage? Could potentially try isabelle or move shemira top to silence the other shemira. Might have more luck with Belinda and lb too
peak stratus
@woven lichen 24-40
peak stratus
tyvm
wintry ether
@woven lichen thanks
teal hinge
Need help with this stage, with rng i almost won, but rng also said "no"
Id rather not use the mercenaries
still oar
Try
Shem. Fawkes
Lyca. I>>lyca
Rowan. Arden
Brutus. >>>Shemira
Arden. Rowan
Make sure to root ferael @teal hinge
teal hinge
kk
lofty depot
@woven lichen 24-14 and I already tried switching them without any success :(
woven lichen
@lofty depot what stage is that?
@lofty depot I would probably try Nemora instead of shemira. Nemora on top and try to charm athalia?
lofty depot
Hmm yeah I'll try, I tried Nem earlier but instead of Shemira. I'll try it! It's 24-14 @woven lichen
indigo jolt
@lofty depot 24 14
woven lichen
@lofty depot
lofty depot
Thank you I'll try it!
olive thorn
24-14 I did it with this comp when signature wasn't even in the game, so it'll probably still work..
gritty sail
Help please.
lofty depot
@woven lichen
woven lichen
@lofty depot nice job! 🙂👍
lofty depot
@woven lichen you don't happen to have the screenshot for 24-15 as well? 
still oar
- He just need good khasos to clear it easily
lofty depot
@woven lichen I managed to pass it right before you sent it haha but thank you!
woven lichen
Cool
@gritty sail merc a strong khasos. Thanks @still oar (I need to start memorizing these stages 😆)
gritty sail
@woven lichen do i need to change my formation?
woven lichen
@gritty sail I don’t believe so. Though you could try safiya and khasos in front if it doesn’t work out.. maybe field will help
high horizon
22-50
marsh gyro
If anyone has a clue how I can beat this PM me. It’s 15-40
willow moon
this level is still destroying me. Skreg/Warek is too good. Any thoughts? I can't get past them. I've tried merc'ing Rowan, Rosa, Fawkes, and Grezhul. Nothing.
topaz eagle
Can I get some advice on this floor please? My hero’s are stronger and I can’t get close I’ve retried over 50 times copying the lineup of the second two screenshots
willow moon
@marsh gyro you're using an almost all LB team against all GB. I'd take Belinda out, put Fawkes on bottom, nemora on top. possibly swap shem and lucius too.
@topaz eagle Isa is contributing nothing other than giving your enemies energy. take her out and you might win. otherwise swap her with a merc'd strong GB
topaz eagle
She tanks the silvina so shem can ult, I have a 4 star nara and I still can’t fit her into the lineup, the two screenshots I showed above are recent completions and I copied the lineup, they have replays and im saying I can’t get close using the same lineup with stronger hero’s
willow moon
I see what you're saying now. For the purposes of faction towers, remove your gear and artifacts from all other heroes (tasi, Lyca, etc) and give them all to your GB team. Better gear and artifacts can make a world of a difference combined with a little rng. I was stuck on a GB stage for a while and just moved my best gear and artifacts to my GB team and plowed through 10 levels before being capped from progression
if you're not already doing this*
woven lichen
@high horizon Nemora at bottom to charm Arden would help too if you used your original setup
@marsh gyro try using Nemora instead of Belinda to charm Ferael and give more healing before shemira ults
topaz eagle
My gb team has full mythic + equips the best they can get I just don’t understand why I can’t get close with 10 levels over the first screenshot and on par with levels on the second, their replay shows their shem double ult really fast and take little damage, my 5 star maxed shem take a few shots from ferael and is dead, as I said the replays from above screenshots are recent and still active so I have no idea what I can change
willow moon
how are your Shem's boots? sometimes a good dodge stat makes a huge difference... obviously dodge is rng but sometimes rng is a huge part in single stages
topaz eagle
She’s max equip only thing missing is +30 sig, which I will never waste on her as she’s only useful in tower now
willow moon
her sig isn't great so yeah don't do that.
that's odd. I'm not sure what might be causing that then. either way I don't see why Isa would be a better choice than your Nara. you said Ferael was giving you trouble, you could use Nara to grapple him?
topaz eagle
I’ve tried nara on silvina and silvina still gets a first hit on shem which chunks her hp, I believe that’s why people use a isa to take the hit, I’ve tried nara on ferael and I can’t kill him fast enough and he still manages to ruin my bottom
pale kettle
Any quick advice?
willow moon
@topaz eagle i have no idea, that's odd. maybe manipulate your teams' stats a bit so Shem doesn't get targeted by Silvina but you still have a useful hero instead of just useless bait?
@pale kettle about what? if you ask a question I can help. other than telling you that Saveas is your best friend and use HIM as your carry until Shem can get to 161
pale kettle
woven lichen
@topaz eagle are you using the same artifacts as them? Could try Baden instead of Thoran so that the shadows distract shemira and Ferael
@willow moon what stage is that? Against skreg, usually Brutus Thoran Arthur or twins work. Warek gets the shield due to cc so Nemora Arden tasi can make him shield... fawkes is a nice counter but not running a lb team
@pale kettle i would try saveas overleveled... if you could get him to 121 or higher... he has mauler advantage over wilder too
storm terrace
Im too weak to pass 21-52 right
dull moon
The following is my experience with Wrizz today. Tried changing it up a little. Shemira is my #1 DD, so the team comp is focused around her.
maiden gull
@pale kettle that suggestion didnt work my Estrilda got one shot any other ideas
pale kettle
@maiden gull just keep experimenting with lineups.
maiden gull
kk. Maybe Brutus/Mehira front Nemora Tasi Save back?
pale kettle
i don't know, try it for yourself @maiden gull
maiden gull
I will, I'm just really not sure what base comp to even make with what I have cause i have like, half of a few different things it feels like 😦
willow moon
@woven lichen its 22-42. I have Brutus there, and he does well because of his shield and bulk, but against Skreg and Warek both, he falls with time. as soon as he falls, Skreg eats the rest of my team.
don't have thoran, I could try and merc him?? no one offered up a mehira merc in the channel, which I think could be a good counter. don't have Arthur and my twins are Elite (only one copy)
I'm using Arden because he vines down a few enemies which gives the whole team a little more survivability. I tried Fawkes on a team with Thane Belinda Lucius Shem and Brutus (mixing and moving around the 6 of them), but it didn't survive as long as the Arden strat and they got plowed through.
marsh gyro
Tried the switch and nothing...
woven lichen
@marsh gyro since fawkes coffins Ferael, maybe want Nemora to charm Isabelle at bottom if she is the one doing most of the damage on your team. (If you have Rosa, she could help with raising shemira’s stats and getting ults off too)
pale kettle
@willow moon given all the heros i have, who should i put in my main group? my savaes cant be ascended quite yet
teal glade
23-60 tips? I've got as far as surviving athalia ult #1 and shemira ulting only to be melted right after by belinda
red gate
i have ascend ferael, eironn, Athalia, what best hero to get first 30 SI or just wait for rowan?
high loom
I really wanna finish this
teal glade
@red gate this is a question for questions as it doesn't pertain to lineups for levels. But rowan would likely be best. Personal preference of him bs athalia
final meteor
Hard stuck on this, any tips?
woven lichen
@teal glade seems like need more than shem as dps and Rosa is great for dodging... but a tank or dodge character works too
neat lagoon
Any tips on passing or who to lvl up to pass?
woven lichen
@final meteor seems too dps heavy but could use nara on silvina. What stage?
teal glade
@woven lichen that's why I had ferael in as he gives some cc and a toooon of dmg. I'll try the rosa too though as my lyca is pretty weak.
woven lichen
@neat lagoon usually want to level up carry first and then tanks... so probably Hogan after saveas... can try swapping saveas with Belinda too
neat lagoon
How high can Saveas go as epic+, 120? And then lvl Hogan, yes?
woven lichen
@neat lagoon yeah to 120 and Hogan so both tanks can hold out enough for saveas to kill
neat lagoon
Ty!
hallow verge
Hi, looking to get help with my comp. Currently feels pretty bad
pale kettle
@hallow verge you're so early in the game. just keep summoning and leveling.
hallow verge
Gotcha, thanks. I’m like day 3
final meteor
@woven lichen 298
woven lichen
@final meteor
marsh gyro
Ugh... am I out of options?
willow moon
@pale kettle just keep rolling mauler fodder. Saveas has the perk of being a legendary tier despite his incredible strength so you'll ascend him to L+ in no time. he will carry you extremely far until Shem takes over. Other than Saveas and Shem, you're off to a great start. Brutus, Eironn, and Nemora are all top tier, especially in endgame. Brutus will serve you really well from now until as long as you play for. Grezhul also becomes a great tank. Arden also has a strong ability, Entangling Roots, which will wrap 3 enemies rendering them useless. This will serve you into the 20s of chapters and very late game, despite him being a Legendary tier unit. Saveas falls off eventually.
@hallow verge Lucius is incredibly good throughout the entire game, you're very lucky to have E+ on day 3. Keep building him. Focus immediately on building Saveas. He will carry you until level 160, and Shemira takes over at level 161.
glacial dagger
Thanks in advance!
restive mauve
@glacial dagger swap hogan and ogi atleast, so that they get faction advantage against the enemy Frontline. I would focus the botside too damage wise, so maybe try something like
Rosaline
--hogan
Thane
--ogi
Saveas
high loom
Really wanna complete 14 pls help
restive mauve
@high loom you can try different things here.
Fawkes
--lucius
Rowan
--shemira
Arden
The general idea is to put arden behind shemira so that she get enough support to fill up her energy. Rowan + lucius should provide you with more sustain and fawkes cages an enemy carry.
You can try out belinda instead of Fawkes too, or maybe bottom Frontline hendrick, remove arden and move shemira backline bottom
high loom
K
glacial dagger
@restive mauve not sure I understand fsftion bonus... I'll look into it
ashen charm
is there anything that can be replaced by lucius in my formation? I heard he is the good tank in this game
willow moon
Hogan is useless if you're using him, easily replaced with Lucius. otherwise Shem isn't that helpful til 161 so you could bench her til then and saveas will carry you til then
@glacial dagger ever play Pokémon? LB > Mauler > Wilder > GB > LB
similar to how water > fire > grass > water
it's basically just type matchups
ashen charm
@willow moon alright then, thanks for the help
willow moon
but don't get me wrong, keep building Shem. once you hit 161 and saveas can't level up further, she will be your best friend for a long long time. prioritize getting her to 161 first.
cosmic current
Need help with 18-40 plz. Heres my lineup and heroes
storm terrace
@woven lichen thanks for the help 😊
woven lichen
@cosmic current probably too much dps and can use more healing or support
Shemira
-rowan
Eironn
-estrilda
Gwyneth
(Rowan for healing, Gwyneth to stun Arden and lyca, estrilda for atk and energy gen, shemira ult)
Or
Shemira
-khasos
Nemora (charm Arden)
-eironn
Lyca
(Maybe eironn sucks in Arden)
@noble turtle I’d try
Khasos (kill Arden)
-Lucius
Rowan
-shemira
Rosa
@storm terrace sure glad it worked 🙂
gritty sail
Help please.
noble turtle
@woven lichen Holy crap that worked
willow moon
@gritty sail use Athalia to lock down Arden, it will make your life much easier not having 3 tied down
visual quiver
Any ideas?
willow moon
@visual quiver I'd do somethin like
Nemora
Shem
Athalia
Brutus
Tasi
Want to shut down Arden so he can't tie up your team. Brutus walls Saveas and other Brutus. Saveas will focus on Brutus so tasi can charge ult (give her Call).
Reset til Nemora charms Shem, or use lucius as FL and put Shem in back where Warek won't yeet her (no nemora this way)
jade idol
@noble turtle https://gfycat.com/validwideeyedbabirusa
At least that was my setup, crystal 160 and gears at the end of the gif
noble turtle
Thanks Scarlet, im up to 20-4 now, wooo! but i appreciate it!
jade idol
grats, ym
visual quiver
@willow moon that doesn't work because tasi banishes shem so nemora cannot charm
tall forge
Any tips what I can do here?
willow moon
@visual quiver it's a combination of ideas tbh. I don't have your phone so I can't do a ton of test runs on different lineups lol
if tasi banishes Shem then you don't need to bring Nemora to charm, try Eironn or Lyca instead
woven lichen
@vast bobcat that might be easier with Nemora tasi and lyca...
Nemora to charm Ferael at top.
willow moon
the two behind Vedan are weak to GB, I would try and Nemora charm the Vedan. possibly Athalia snipe Ferael of he's giving you trouble. Shem needs to get her ult off, I doubt she's doing that with Vedan there.
that's what I was thinking. don't overthink, sometimes Shem Brut and TripWilder is just your best bet
vast bobcat
hmmm ok will give it a shot guys, thanks.
willow moon
@woven lichen did you have any thoughts on that gross Mauler level I posted, 22-42?
woven lichen
@willow moon not sure what heroes you had as not sure how far back you posted but...
vast bobcat
@willow moon @woven lichen awesome guys got it, used Arden instead of Tasi. 3rd try done 👍🏻
visual quiver
I see you have access to davids website too lol
woven lichen
@visual quiver what stage? But you could try
Tasi (banish shem)
-shemira
Nemora (charm Arden)
-Lucius
Arden/lyca
Otherwise can try estrilda instead of fawkes to try tanking a bit more and give energy and attack boost to shemira
willow moon
@woven lichen is that pre or post Skreg buff?
woven lichen
@willow moon might be pre but conceptually the same since Thoran can still tank him
woven lichen
@visual quiver yes, it’s a fantastic resource 🙂
visual quiver
shouldn't matter too much. I used e+ thoran in late ch23 too
woven lichen
@willow moon brutus works too but you’d lose the faction bonus
visual quiver
btw. your formation doesn't work. my shem can't tank at all
willow moon
I had best results out of all of my lineups using that
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
but still nowhere close to winning. idk if Thoran is way better than Brutus for this level or what
woven lichen
@willow moon Thoran gives you more damage due to faction boost and he can absorb a lot of damage during his ult too
visual quiver
I had to use an ascended ezizh merc with +20 SI for that cancer stage
willow moon
My Thoran is too weak and dies too quick. Grez doesn't do it and as soon as Brutus dies, Skreg plows down my team
visual quiver
willow moon
I don't have a single Mehira copy lmao
visual quiver
no, I meant 22-42. I'm in ch24 lol
willow moon
I figured that's what he meant lol
visual quiver
a friend beat tower 289 with 220 crystal wtf.
woven lichen
Might be a lot of replaying. Seemed like shemira was dodging a lot in replay that you are following
visual quiver
not at all. she somehow just kills warek with her ult while my shemira does literally 0 dmg with 3* blade
and the video still works so the patch shouldn't be too old
willow moon
tried Thoran, didn't realize I had 2. maybe a strong merc would do it, mine was just a little too weak
cosmic current
@woven lichen thanks, I'll give it a try once the server comes back up
restive cloud
Game is up for me
eager jay
Any suggestions for getting through this?
tiny zinc
What du you guys think I should focus on, compwise?
Running this one most of the times rn
winged mulch
@tiny zinc I would swap tha fire one with Belinda, I am still noob though :p
last wharf
What's the best team como for guild hunts I could make?
violet igloo
@last wharf I'd say
Saveas
Shemira
Belinda
Estrilda
Raine
last wharf
Thanks
glossy pagoda
You can do retries, to c weither izold outdamages one of those, since he is 20levels higher
tulip parcel
I usually do the first five and then second time I choose and retry if I don't like it.
clever fern
23-60 the lineup I have with almost perfect ring kills everyone but athalia with 80% hp left.
neat light
Please help. Also have talene and shemira
clever fern
@neat light first thing I’d put Rowan in middle so they all get the buff and heals and might be worth trying Arden instead of saveas
neat light
@clever fern thanks i will try it out
barren badge
Any idea?
jovial yacht
@barren badge Maybe try with Tasi in the back or Nemora but your heroes are quite under-leveled
open dome
Who the best to use and lvl
Planning to reset the ones who are meh also in resonate Crystal
I keep getting stuck in story and the big extra map :(
glossy pagoda
@barren badge if your tasi can teleport away from silvina, tasi lyca seirus backline may work (or just tasi lyca arden, i realised i used seirus because my tasi had higher ascension then my arden)
dark current
I really need help on 24-24
atomic marten
@open dome Tasi Lyca Nemora Lucius Belinda looks a a solid basis. Keep in mind that for some stage you'll have to switch. For instance Eironn Rosa can be super-useful
open dome
And then tasi in front with lucius or lyca @atomic marten
atomic marten
Lucius / Tasi I'd say. In some situation Lyca or Nemora can be front as well. Toss brutus into crystal as well, he can be useful in front for some stages
last wharf
I wanna redo my lineup for campaign cause it seems to get wiped any help idm resetting every one
clever fern
23-60 athalia always lives no matter what
brittle summit
In need of help on kings tower floor 300
restive mauve
@brittle summit try using rosa instead of belinda and rowan instead of tasi. Maybe swap estrilda and shemira, see the heroes on the picture above your post. You can try to add brutus instead of rosa too, if she still dies. Brutus will buy you some time.
Also try out different artefacts. Call on rowan, or call on shemira for example
tranquil breach
Can someone help me with the line up, im lmao as i post this bc this is literally the first stage and im already stuck
strange plaza
Any suggestions for this one guys?
small pumice
Nothing I'm trying here is working, Thane and Mirael end up wiping me 
coral pier
Try using a shemira
summer hatch
23-10. Any tips?
drowsy dove
Currently on 4-35
coral pier
You can at least make numisu elite+
And you should not have more than 5 heroes levelled up, thats what the resonating crystal is for
drowsy dove
Yeah, swapped around and figured the 10 levels wasn't worth resetting for
coral pier
You can also make lucius elite+ it looks like
drowsy dove
Indeed I can, I thought I needed 2 spare:p
Should I reset one of the high lvl ones to get Numisu up then?
coral pier
I also see you can make a elite saveas. He deals tons of damage. I would recommend making him elite and putting as much level on him as possible and sticking him backline
Yeah maybe using him for now may be worth it since you dont have too many heroes, I would swap him out in a bit tho. I would recommend your team to be:
Saveas
Lucius
Numisu
Hogan
Mirael
Make that elite saveas and overlevel him. He will deal tons of damage
drowsy dove
Can't do elite Saveas, need 2 spares
But I can get around to that I suppose:p
coral pier
Oh yeah, well when you do get the copies do it
You do so many pulls early on that you will get him to elite soon
drowsy dove
So I'll reset Angelo and Morvus then. Also, I levelled Mirael to the next ability checkpoint (81 next) and kept rest of the team on the checkpoint before, is that a good way to do stuff?
Just with Saveas instead
coral pier
Yes, in early and mid game your damage carries should always be as high level as possible
drowsy dove
ALright, thanks a bunch:)
odd python
@tranquil breach i somehow dont have the screenshot for that stage only... but try
nemora
lyca
ferael
grez/brutus
eironn
neat light
Help. I cant beat it because i keep running out of time. Its a stalemate
coral pier
Slotting in saveas might help if damage is what you need
neat light
I tried this with saveas instead of arden didnt work
coral pier
How about saveas instead of tasi with belinda frontline?
If you dont need tons of healing you might even be able to also replace rowan with talene
neat light
@coral pier nvm i tried it with saveas again and with some rng i made it. Thanks!
coral pier
Saveas is a beast
primal bridge
I'm getting utterly destroyed. My Athalia can't interrupt Arden, my tanks get one shot.
19-38 sorry
sharp egret
coral pier
@primal bridge What about:
Lucius
Merc Eironn
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
@sharp egret What about swapping tasi-rowan and shemira-lucius
sharp egret
Nope :/
I ran Arden/Lyca and it was an easy clear lmao. Idk why I stopped trying Arden he’s so OP
primal bridge
@coral pier that worked but had to swap Shem and Fawkes to the top. Thanks! Also, 19-40 was certainly easier than this.
coral pier
👍
abstract mountain
Any tips?
coral pier
Your rowan should be at middle position of the back row almost every time btw @pale kettle
pale kettle
Whats the best formation for me atm for pve
coral pier
Saveas
Orthros
Athalia
Estrilda
Fawkes
should work @pale kettle
maybe replace fawkes or athalia with arden when he gets 2nd root, dont remember the level
cinder smelt
Just got a ton of new heroes but I'm not sure if they are any good, would love to get some formation tips :) (new are Lucius, nemora lyca) thanks in advance
coral pier
Nemora and Lyca are very strong. Lucius is in my opinion a god tier hero and uncontested best frontline in game at all stages of the game. At the moment tho it is just important to have a good support team around saveas tho. @cinder smelt
@pale kettle Swap saveas and estrilda and level up saveas as much as possible
coral pier
Yeah that gives you a nice faction bonus and when saveas gets more level you should be able to advance a bit
Those 2 celestials will get replaced soon since its hard to get more copies early on but you should absolutely use them for now since you got lucky enough to have em
cinder smelt
@coral pier im currently running Hendrik-Belinda-Saveas-Rowan-Rosaline , should i swap hendrik with lucius then ?o:
coral pier
I would replace rosaline for now since she doesn't combo well with saveas so have frontline hendrik and lucius and backline saveas-rowan-belinda @cinder smelt
cinder smelt
alright, thanks alot for your help ! :)
coral pier
No problem, feel free to ask for more help later on if you don't know what to do 👍
small pumice
Dropped Arthur down to 1* from 5* so I can use my Shemira with him but still no luck clearing 23-14
coral pier
@small pumice You don't have any supports in your team outside of Lucius. Do you have something like a rowan to replace Belinda maybe?
small pumice
Not at all
And my M+ Rosa dies in 5 seconds
Might have to wait until 240+ Crystal
coral pier
Can shemira survive frontline instead of arthur so you can put some other faction support in?
small pumice
I've tried that multiple times to no avail
I think I'm just under levelled at this point, been stuck all day trying everything I can think of out
coral pier
I would highly recommend building a support like Rowan. He has amazing synergy with your team and 3 dps heroes isn't ideal at all.
small pumice
Yeah I've never pulled him, Arthur is the only real money I've spent since Chapter Rewards
coral pier
How is your Fawkes situation? He is good at supporting too.
small pumice
1 copy and that's it, this is the problem ughhhh
I'll start getting him from Challenger since my Athalia is M I guess
coral pier
He can work at elite too when you get a 240 crystal. If you want to build a good athalia you need her copies too.
Are you sure you can't get rosa to work? If you try putting Shemira to a different position. @small pumice
small pumice
I have tried every formation under the sun, switched up Dura's etc. and 0 results. Tried autoclicking formations that were promising for half an hour at a time but no breakthroughs
coral pier
Well at least the good news is that you are close to 240 crystal
small pumice
I think I might just have to wait for 40k more dust which will take a month or so
coral pier
Nah it doesn't need to take that long. You get dust faster if you do 1-2 rerolls on bounty board and buy the daily dust.
Also lab gives dust
small pumice
Yeah I do that already, guess I'm playing the waiting game
coral pier
The name of the game is afk arena 🤷♂️
spare aurora
Thoughts?
coral pier
Put Rowan back middle and get a faction bonus at least @spare aurora
small pumice
Charm their Nemora
coral pier
Nemora and Athalia may be able to counter arden
willow spruce
coral pier
@willow spruce Have you tried to counter arden with Athalia or Nemora?
willow spruce
No
coral pier
Arden usually needs to be dealt with so his triple stun doesn't destroy you
grave hollow
Nothing survives without phoenix
coral pier
Can you get Athalia or Nemora to deal with Arden? @grave hollow
coral pier
How about Shemira bottom of back row and replace ferael with Rowan?
grave hollow
Nope done that got smashed
My guild says I may need to wait a little but I hate waiting that team survives longest but can't kill them
stone ginkgo
Kinda hoping to get 24-60 done today, any suggestions on a lineup (without Ferael/Thoran) would be a huge help.
coral pier
@stone ginkgo Is there a reason for rowan not being middle of the back row?
stone ginkgo
Experimentation. He’s been back middle for most attempts 🙂
somber shoal
started to play a few days ago, any opinions on my line up?
coral pier
Can Lucius get his ult off if he is front row?
stone ginkgo
He can definitely a front top, but Athalias ult tends to wipe a lot of the team regardless of his ult
coral pier
I am just thinking you might get more value out of Fawkes or Athalia instead of Rosa in that case @stone ginkgo
@somber shoal If you cant get saveas to legendary you should overlevel belinda and she should be able to carry until 160 when shemira takes over
clever fern
23-60 me stuck
stone ginkgo
The formation that’s got me the furthest so far is this one @coral pier Tasi can occasionally shut down Athalia in time for a Belinda ult.
coral pier
How close were you?
quiet falcon
stone ginkgo
Lucius and Raine down, but that’s about it
clever fern
@coral pier could you look at mine
abstract mountain
Any ideas?
vale flax
coral pier
@clever fern Does Shemira survive or does she die too fast?
abstract mountain
Can anyone help me with above?
coral pier
@vale flax Maybe its time to abandon saveas and make a team with a faction bonus.
clever fern
She gets 2 ults off cause of rosa and with good rng it’s only athalia and thane both half health at end @coral pier
coral pier
That looks like a tough one, have you tried playing around with swapping fawkes or rosa for someone like tasi? @clever fern
clever fern
Tried but didn’t work too well put Tasi up front put Lucius in the back but ehh didn’t do as good as lineup I got now
coral pier
@abstract mountain Does tasi survive athalia dive?
abstract mountain
Athalia dives @ Lyca
Once my teaam beat everyone except enemy Tasi that was close but it was only once
coral pier
@clever fern Your team looks pretty solid but enemies are almost double power which is pushing the limit for what you can deal with
@abstract mountain Yeah but if you put tasi in front of athalia
clever fern
Yea might just have to wait for mercenaries and see if I can get a good Rosa
abstract mountain
Tasi cant survive : )
pseudo cedar
19-8 im stuck
somber shoal
@coral pier i can almost get saeves to legendary+ , should i consider playing saeves instead of fawkes ?
coral pier
@somber shoal Can you make him legendary
somber shoal
yes
coral pier
Then you might want to replace belinda with saveas because fawkes works as a support there while belinda doesn't do too much if not overlevelled
somber shoal
oh okay ,but shes by far my strongest hereo atm
coral pier
Saveas should do even better at that point when overlevelled
somber shoal
alright then , ill try it thx
coral pier
You can replace fawkes too I suppose but I don't think you need belindas damage when saveas is overlevelled
knotty ice
Any advice?
coral pier
@knotty ice You need a faction bonus and some actual supports
tepid sentinel
help me pls 24-54
coral pier
Can you get a nemora or a athalia to deal with arden? @tepid sentinel
coral pier
If you try putting rowan back to middle position and slotting in nemora so you keep the faction bonus and hopefully charm arden
tepid sentinel
can u give me lineup :<
coral pier
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
coral pier
Well what about:
Athalia
Shemira
Brutus
Lucius
Rowan
Alternatively swap places with Lucius and Rowan
tepid sentinel
oke let me try again
toxic wigeon
Just started the game I'm running
Arden
Vedan
insert
Nemora
Shemira
Should I use my resources on levelling Silvina or Ira for last spot?
Currently progressing through chapter 4
coral pier
Post a screenshot of all of your heroes so its easier to give advice @toxic wigeon
coral pier
Between those 2 choices I would go for ira because she deals overall more dps I think. The best early game damage dealer is saveas tho so when you get him try to overlevel him.
delicate trout
anyone has a screenshot on 23-24?
coral pier
Shemira isnt the best early game carry but since you don't have any other elite dmg dealers overlevelling her for now might work @toxic wigeon
@tepid sentinel Did it work?
tepid sentinel
1 time near success
coral pier
Did you try switching positions between rowan and lucius?
brave iron
coral pier
Well if you keep trying with the team that got the closest you might be able to clear if you keep trying. Did you make sure you have all of your best gear and artifacts on your heroes? @tepid sentinel
brave iron
got these heroes (top) to bet the stage (bottom), been stuck for a while.
coral pier
@brave iron Have you tried:
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Shemira or Isabella
?
brave iron
Let me give that a go, who would i front? Belinda + lucius?
coral pier
No, front is Lucius Estrilda
royal grotto
2nd 4th are front
coral pier
I tried to type that out the way it looks like in battle screen @brave iron
brave iron
Ah ok, my bad 😛
royal grotto
You should be able to pass this stage in your level by the way
coral pier
What team were you using before? @brave iron
royal grotto
I’d work in rowan and fawkes @brave iron
brave iron
I was switching it up everytime because nothing seemed to work, i'm not that good at putting teams up with good synergy
tepid sentinel
@coral pier here my gear
royal grotto
You have damage dealers but you don’t have enough control and support
coral pier
@tepid sentinel I usually run eye on athalia
Not sure tho since she is so low ascension, that might be better
tepid sentinel
time to rape this stage
brave iron
I'll give that team a go, i'll sort out the gear first
The Mirael is a bit annoying though
tepid sentinel
@coral pier tks bro i passed ❤️
coral pier
Nice man 👍
brave iron
Aight i passed my lvl too, changed Estrilda to khasos in the end
coral pier
Nice
shell heron
Any help please, thank youuu
coral pier
@shell heron Your only damage dealer that can overlevel right now is isabella so might be worth it to level up her for now if you can't do saveas yet
shell heron
Right okay, thank you I'll give it a try!
coral pier
I would reset everyone else to 120 and make a 160 saveas
woeful fjord
160 saveas is better than 160 shemira?? I'm stuck at 10-40
coral pier
Yes. Shemira really starts to shine at 161 and you need mythic ascension for that
woeful fjord
Ah I see. Belinda will be e+ after 10-40 as well because I get the copy I need for her with completing 10-40
But saveas is better than Belinda too?? She did a great job so far :)
slim ferry
Kinda stuck moving heroes around atm. Can't E+ Saveas yet either. Should I just wait that out?
coral pier
@woeful fjord Yes
@slim ferry Meanwhile you can make that shemira to 160 and then level up the other heroes
coral pier
@young kite Frontline Ulmus-Estrilda/Eironn, backline Saveas-Nemora/Tasi-Arden
You can ignore levelling all the other heroes for a bit, just get that saveas up as high as you can
brave iron
Same problem again here, any tips or is the way to go?
pale kettle
damn, you don't have the Wilder trio. 
@brave iron
brave iron
I barely have any wilders lmfao
pale kettle
you should aim for them.
brave iron
I'm trying to, just cleared the lvl btw
coral pier
Going lightbearers instead of wilder is a good option too, even better in my humble opinion
pale kettle
i'm not saying Wilders as a whole faction. I'm referring to the Wilder trio.
tulip parcel
@coral pier I agree
coral pier
Early on you unfortunately have to decide between the wilder trio and lightbearers since it isn't the best idea to split your faction scrolls
pale kettle
i split my faction scrolls.
depending on what i need most for progression at that time.
tulip parcel
wdym by spliting faction scrolls?
coral pier
Lightbearers are just so stat reliant that you cant split if you want to have a really good LB team asap
@tulip parcel It means doing part of your faction scrolls on 1 faction and part of the scrolls on a 2nd faction
pale kettle
i mean, sure if that's what floats your boat.
tulip parcel
@coral pier thanks
woeful fjord
How far does 160 Saveas E+ push me? I mean what chapter do I aim for? Or when does he start feeling weak??
raw oar
Hey im new and i dont know much about the characters how can i improve my team?
coral pier
Make a elite saveas as soon as you can and then dump as much levels on him as possible
raw oar
Thx
neat crypt
24-36 if any1 has ideas. Tried a bunch of stuff. Top tank gets clapped, if I use brutus everyone else gets clapped.
Thoran dies before ult, no matter where I put him so can't cheese
vernal loom
Do you guys have any advice on 22-60? Athalia absolutely wrecks my team.
coral pier
Can shemira get her ult off at all?
vernal loom
She goes for Rowan first and he dies before anyone’s ult
woeful fjord
Rowan is a boy???
coral pier
Maybe try:
Fawkes
Shemira
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
That might solve the problem of rowan dying, not sure if arden is still the big issue here
vernal loom
@coral pier that helped quite a bit. Brutus immune keeps him alive long enough for everyone to ult. I will keep trying. I got 2 of the 5 down in one try with that lineup
remote otter
coral pier
Slot in a 3rd lb or celestial to get a faction bonus
Do you have a athalia to replace nara with?
pale kettle
vernal loom
Not sure if you can see that.
With this formation I manage to get an ult from everyone but then Athalia ults and my team gets dominated it’s crazy
coral pier
Looks like your shemira doesn't dish out as much damage as you need to win
I wonder if a merc rosa would help with that.
sharp egret
19-38 any pics? Top row is in game
coral pier
Is Khasos really doing enough to justify no faction bonus? Might be worth it to swap him out. @sharp egret
sharp egret
That’s not the lineup I use @coral pier , I just put them in so you could see my full roster
coral pier
If you do those 4 and use a nemora instead of khasos will she charm arden?
sharp egret
Ill try that, I think brutus is necessary and ive tried Athalia on arden before
coral pier
Can you just take tasi back to 160 to make a 200 lucius or is that a mythic lucius?
sharp egret
Nemora gets one shot by someone , and yeah Lucius is M
coral pier
Might be worth the shot to attemp to athalia that arden
sharp egret
Thats what im running atm
coral pier
That does not look like a fun comp to deal with at all. Might require a few attempts anyways
sharp egret
ive seen this level posted on here a lot
coral pier
Arden is one of the more annoying units
woven lichen
@sharp egret the pic posted is usually for a later stage but similar composition. Usually want Nemora to charm Arden and potentially an Arden of your own on bottom. Can add lyca/tasi and front with shemira and Brutus/Lucius/Thoran... shemira could also be in upper left
royal grotto
I’m also stuck in this level With 100k less power
vernal loom
@coral pier who would you replace in my lineup for the merc Rosa
coral pier
All of them are kinda hard to replace but the most replaceable might just be fawkes
vernal loom
Thanks
stuck siren
Someone please help. Greatly appreciated
pale kettle
Nemora
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Lyca
@stuck siren
stuck siren
Thank you!
willow moon
still getting swept by this stage... any advice of any kind? I even merc'd the recommended Thoran
still oar
Have you tried
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Tank
Nemora
Tank can be Brutus, thoran. But I recommend good ezzizh so you can ult faster. The line up relying on skreg stomp to the middle and shemira can ult with only against warek which her dodge can rng her to not die @willow moon
pale kettle
Anyone know what the best pvp lineup would be for me?
coral pier
I think Lucius and Estrilda frontline for sure at least. Backline maybe something like Ferael, Twins, Mehira. I am not sure how much damage your ferael does at your point of the game so you might need more damage.
willow moon
@still oar trying it now. seems Lyca is getting smashed and shem doesn't live long enough. I have 5* boots on her, so just pray for rng here? my best Ezizh is E+, my Brutus is A1* and the M+ Thoran is merc'd
still oar
Lyca doesn't matter. The rng is on shemira. If she can ult twice u should be able to clear it with bit of struggle
limpid quail
@pale kettle try Arden instead of Belinda, you don't need 2 carries
woeful wing
I need help with 17-6. My tanks keep getting one shotted
limpid quail
And overlevel saveas more
coral pier
Saveas can go to 140 and also should go to 140
pale kettle
@coral pier he does about 800k damage each fight
Wow that’s amazing Arden did the trick on the first try
coral pier
@pale kettle Thats a lot for that level right?
pale kettle
Thank you
coral pier
In that case you don't need more dps so you can use that ferael,twins,mehira backline @pale kettle
limpid quail
@pale kettle if they can't kill your carry, your carry can kill them 
mortal patio
Any tips please and is there a beginners guide anywhere as I’ve only been playing a couple of hours
willow moon
@still oar I'll try.. and preference for Brutus or Thoran?
pale kettle
Yes it’s a lot for my level @coral pier thanks!
still oar
I like brutus more since thoran can have the chance to drop early and expose you backline for a second @willow moon. Let me check my SS for arts
willow moon
also if rng is on Shem and Lyca doesn't matter, why not put Brutus in lyca's place, so Shem has more coverage in front of her in the form of a wall?
still oar
Oops don't have it but here's another comp you can try with e+ ezzih since he seems juts for energy buff.
I think I used him provide bait on bottom so enemies would walk there @willow moon
woven lichen
@mortal patio there are beginner guides pinned to the channels #lineup-help and #classic-questions. They are a great resource to start with. Otherwise still too early on so keep playing and summoning heroes.
willow moon
I don't have a single Mehira copy lmao
edit: wrong hero oops
@still oar
you can use any hero to bait enemies over though. anyone below L+ melts to this team, DPS is too high
still oar
Yeah. It's all luck if shemira can be left alone with warek your chance is higher
willow moon
I've tried so many lineups so many times lol
still oar
Do you have telegram @willow moon? I know telegram full of screenshots you can try
willow moon
I don't actually
also Lyca in front of Shem uses her battle cry which means Warek can target Shem first, and he just chucks her over his head and her life is over
still oar
That's my plan. That way she doesn't need to be bothered with skreg and since she is far away from him smher damage doesn't get cut