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hollow elm
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im not surprised tbh.. my brutus is stuck legendary.. hes not a bad tank honestly but if he cant get his ult off hes dead

paper wadi
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i tried that what you say but i have no chance

hollow elm
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hmm could always try swapping around artifacts

paper wadi
wheat forum
hollow elm
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@wheat forum id wait for elite+ then for hogan

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@paper wadi no lucius?

paper wadi
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luc doesn‘t make sence it takes 2 hits and is down

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he never ults and makes always 0 dmg

hollow elm
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@paper wadi what gear and artifacts do u have on them?

paper wadi
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@hollow elm sorry my battery was empty

hollow elm
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@paper wadi all good.. honestly only other option would be to use a merc or wait and grind xp

paper wadi
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grind xp doesn‘t help cause after i got luc to 180 i stuck again and can‘t level any hero

hollow elm
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sorry in a game of league

pale kettle
split kindle
hollow elm
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@split kindle u arnt already winning?

split kindle
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Yeah, I don't get it either

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Ok nvm, i figured out a formation

hollow elm
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@old ore r u timing fawkes ult with brutus bubble

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@split kindle was about to say and u might want hogan for a tank and belinda in the bank bc they r plus

old ore
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@hollow elm no, that never gets there, always heal

hollow elm
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@old ore hmm could try that one artifact that gives spec

old ore
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@hollow elm nevermind, I'll try this stage in a month

hollow elm
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@old ore ehh im sure u could get it sooner tbh

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@old ore rosa would help to tbh

grave hollow
slate thistle
dark current
tall forge
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Last stage in chapter, been trying to use nemora to charm ferael but still can’t beat it. Any tips?

radiant parcel
graceful garden
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I'm at loss - if I avoid ascended tier as fodder then I can ascend 0 chars today

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what if I need 3 fodders, 2 are legendary tier and 3rd is... the same char? Is this an exception

indigo jolt
dark current
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I'll try thanks

indigo jolt
glacial tartan
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Hello all

novel spruce
coral pier
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@novel spruce Your team could use some support heroes

woven lichen
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@slate thistle want to put your highest leveled 15 as that’s more important than anything for challenger tournament. Beyond that same faction helps due to bonus. Since you don’t have enough crystal spots for all 15... some teams will be stuck with levels 1s... so try to get at least two strong teams

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@dark current can try Thoran instead of Brutus for faction bonus. Maybe Nemora in mid back to charm estrilda, Arden or mid back

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@tall forge might be too big of a gap due to levels but you can try tasi instead of Lyca for more crowd control... (Thoran for Brutus for faction bonus)

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@graceful garden not clear on question. Do you mean to go from legendary to legendary+ or mystic+ to ascended? Those require elite+ of same character so that’s an ok exception to use ascended heroes for ascension.

But you want to use fodder characters for everything else. If you don’t have any available, better to wait. Don’t have to ascend everyday. Avoiding ascension characters helps you save time later on

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@pale kettle can try tasi instead of numisu so you get a faction bonus of 3-2.

novel spruce
pale kettle
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already did, I tried loads of stuff, most dont work

woven lichen
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@pale kettle might be stuck until ascending or leveling more then. Unlocking 161 for other characters would help a lot or shemira to 181

pale kettle
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yep, probably should wait till doing that ig, thanks!

indigo jolt
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@novel spruce Try Charming Ferael with Nemora in Athalia position.

pale kettle
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actually only need 1 brutus / 1 nemora / 1 tasi to get my crystal to 161

woven lichen
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@pale kettle 1 lyca too... pretty close

pale kettle
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oh yep

indigo jolt
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Also, would probably drop arden for Tasi/lyca depending on who is banished.

woven lichen
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@glacial tartan not a setup I’m familiar with but maybe try...
Nemora
-Brutus
Numisu
-tasi
Tidus
(Nemora charms Arden and tasi banish... has 3-2 faction bonus)

Otherwise can try
Nemora
-Lucius
Belinda
-Gorvo
Tasi

leaden snow
radiant parcel
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@indigo jolt Thank u ❤️

woven lichen
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@leaden snow what kind of advice? In general, getting Ferael/nara/Belinda ascended or Rowan mythic would help out

glacial tartan
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@woven lichen thanks

novel spruce
woven lichen
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@novel spruce can use Nemora to charm Arden... could also try Shemira front and grezhul instead of Brutus/Lucius for mdef

forest carbon
novel spruce
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mdef?

woven lichen
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@forest carbon might be some trial and error but want some faction bonus and dps.... eironn saveas Rowan Lucius Belinda?

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@novel spruce grezhul reduces magic damage with his deathly protection skill

forest carbon
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Thx I'll try that

hollow elm
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Would Arthur help once I get lycra to mythic?? Not sure if I wanna get him now or wait a bit longer considering the deal is up for another 20 days.. only willing to get him now if he would actually benefit my current lineup.. more than likely I'll get stuff to upgrade his signature item between 5 or 10

inland kite
woven lichen
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@inland kite maybe try vurk instead of saveas due to level gap

sturdy mason
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Been stuck at 15-40 for a couple days now. Not sure what to do

glossy pagoda
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Try with a faction bonus , for example
Lyca (last resort at 180)
Brutus
Nemora (retry if doesnt charm ferael)
Shemira
Arden

inland kite
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rip i dont think i have enough damage

remote otter
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Any ideas warek is too good

inland kite
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do you guys have any ideas of what artifacts i can use? i have all of them up to chalices

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yeah i legit ran out of time this time

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and both lucius's are still up

glossy pagoda
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@inland kite try to get a khasos merc which can throw multiple times. And then
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas/vurk
Skreg/satrana
Safya
I managed to kill thane and estrilda with that, at 160 crystal and brutus 200, with ur level it might be enough

inland kite
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OH WTF O.O i just cleared it and idk how

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i legit got distracted watching discord xD

remote otter
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I used Brutus khasos vurk tidus Sophia

inland kite
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i think khasos got a good crit

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safiya and khasos ended up getting a crit which killed the shields on lucius and managed to let brutus's last grasp murder them

vernal quail
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Trying to figure out a better lineup for guild hunts than the one I’ve been using that only gets ~130M.

woven lichen
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@vernal quail
Rosa
-lorsan/estrilda/shemira
Rowan
-Belinda
Twins/shemira

vernal quail
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I don't have twins and only have E+ Lorsan that isn't in my crystal right now, but I'll try the rest of that.

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Got 197M on my first try. Significant improvement, though not enough to change my rewards at this point. Much appreciated!

chilly estuary
golden musk
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Been using cookie cutter all start team for awhile now , it’s it’s dependable, but I hear it’s gonna fall off soon, what team should I transition to

stone geode
indigo jolt
chilly estuary
stone geode
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Ty :>

chilly estuary
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Lucius and Hogan are dieing pretty early

jade idol
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swap gwen with numisu

chilly estuary
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Ok

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Didn’t work

jade idol
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hm, revert that then, and try to place gwen on middle

chilly estuary
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Ok and ok again

jade idol
chilly estuary
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Errr so I just won lol

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Well thanks for the help!!!

jade idol
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you will face a lot of rng too

glossy pagoda
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The hypogenean mage is a dangerous glass cannon, yes

woven lichen
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@vernal quail try with lorsan on crystal.... it’s a huge boost in damage

jade idol
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So remember that sometimes you will have try with the same formation a lot of times till you get the perfect skill/crits etc

chilly estuary
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Ok

vernal quail
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It'll have to wait a couple of days, but I'm close to unlocking my next crystal slot, so yeah, I'll give Lorsan a shot for it.

woven lichen
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@golden musk ideally should swap shemira for Ferael or eironn. Nara is helpful too. If you had Rowan, Rosa, Lucius, fawkes, and Belinda ascended.... that works too

strange sparrow
woven lichen
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@strange sparrow Belinda/shemira, Larson, Rosa, Rowan, twins... if Soren, swap in Lucius

strange sparrow
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So focus heavily on powering belinda/Shemira thx ill try that

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ah i dont have twins though who would be best next in lind?

woven lichen
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Can put in shemira also then.

violet matrix
wispy raven
modern bison
stone geode
wheat forum
gritty sail
tall forge
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Still can’t beat this even with nemora. Last stage of chapter 15, what should I do?

still oar
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Arden(Shem)

Shem(brutus)
Lyca(Arden)
Brutus (lyca)
Nemora(tasi)
Root Arden and kaz and charm ogi or ira @gritty sail

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Try
(belinda)

Brutus (luc)
Rosa
Luc(hogan)
Arden(nemora)
Level your Belinda 101+ and root or Charm mirael. You can also mirror the backline and charm ira instead @wheat forum

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Try
Tasi

Brutus
Nemora
Shem(lyca)
Lyca(Shem)
Control ankhira or saveas @modern bison

shy mesa
glossy pagoda
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Is kaz getting roared the main problem or more the high damage backline in General?

shy mesa
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@glossy pagoda Brutus is the main issue because Kaz can kill everyone else relatively easily with RNG, but Brutus has to die before everyone else dies

vast badge
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@shy mesa what up

tired lynx
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Who does Fawkes coffin?

shy mesa
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Depends if Kaz hits Brutus, then Brutus, else Mirael

tired lynx
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Putting Kaz in front of Brutus is a very bad idea imo, his roar cancels her dodge

shy mesa
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It doesnt matter because like I said in this stage his roar hits both 1 and 2 positions

glossy pagoda
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Does brutus gets his roar of, befor the coffin hits him? With ur shown linup?

tired lynx
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Put Arthur instead of Kaz, try and see if Shem behind him can live long enough to ult

shy mesa
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@tired lynx I don't really have gear for Shemira I've never used her

tired lynx
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Merc

glossy pagoda
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Maybe kaz on position 3 would avoid the roar, if that has any chance to help

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Together with tasi on 1, if she can survive til teleport here

gaunt umbra
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Hello? Can someone help me

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I’m stuck at 2-16

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And I can’t do anything now

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Pls

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And I am always short of hero exp

still oar
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Try
Ira

Kelthur
Eironn
Antandra
Gorvo
There's not much you can do except rng it or reset your heroes and make eironn your carry by overleveling him @gaunt umbra

gaunt umbra
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Ok I will try now tysm

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Which hero should I reset

still oar
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I can say for sure since idk how long has it been since I play with low level. Maybe atandra and put level 1 niru in her stead and use 3-2 faction bonus

gaunt umbra
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Ok tysm again

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Omg it worked tysm

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Oops I’m once again stuck

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Is there a way to earn gems faster

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Can anyone pls help me

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I’m at 5-20

woven lichen
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@gaunt umbra gems can be earned from progression in tower, campaign, arena, guild bosses, daily quests, tavern board... mainly need to keep progressing and you will get more

gaunt umbra
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I do know that

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But I am stuck at this level and I can’t progress

woven lichen
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For that stage, you have a faction penalty... could try using hogan, mirael, thane, and Belinda instead... could use Angelo for full faction

gaunt umbra
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But I don’t have any hero exp to level them up

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I don’t have Angelo either

woven lichen
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You may want to go afk and wait for more exp then. Otherwise you would have to reset characters.

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Angelo is the blue bard.. level 1 in your screenshot

gaunt umbra
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Oh ok but can I use eirron

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Instead of Angelo because my Eironn is very strong

woven lichen
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Well didn’t mean to use Angelo instead of eironn... it was more for if you reset characters over to lb. if you want to stick to wilder party, I would try adding hogan mirael and Thane instead of Kelthur, Niru, and ira... mainly trying to take advantage of lb over mauler

gaunt umbra
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I still lost

velvet lion
woven lichen
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@gaunt umbra most likely won’t win until other characters are higher leveled... since most of them are level 1 so primarily Gorvo and eironn against maulers... they have a disadvantage against them

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@velvet lion I am guessing Rowan, Rosa, fawkes, and Brutus/Lucius doesn’t work? Also no luck with Brutus, Arden, Nemora(charm Arden), tasi/lyca?

gaunt umbra
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I Guess I have to wait till tomorrow to gain more hero exp to level up my heroes

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Thx for the advice tho

velvet lion
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I dont have a lucius past e but ive been doing rosaline, fawkes/athalia and brutus with rowan and shemira, my wilders are p subpar nemora is sitting at l+ but lyca is e+ and tasi is only e... i could give it a shot tho, do you think it might work?

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Oh i just read thhe description i should prob poat the rest of my box, sorry its my first time asking for help

woven lichen
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@velvet lion you can try it out... they might die too quickly but if they can root, charm, banish etc quick enough, it should at least give shemira some time to ult

velvet lion
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Alright, ill move some gear to give it a shot

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Ty

silent wraith
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@velvet lion reset until nemo charms arden, then he will root kaz, then its rng

velvet lion
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@silent wraith should i use my tasi even though shes only e or should i use l+ arden?
nice pfp btw

silent wraith
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if she can survive to ult, E is fine

velvet lion
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Alright I'll give it a shot ty

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Ayyyy it worked thanks a bunch @silent wraith and @woven lichen

silent wraith
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nice :) is a small trick but always works

woven lichen
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@velvet lion imokbrutus

tribal bluff
wise merlin
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@tribal bluff Hey! 🙂 Hope your day is going good! ^^

I'd like to suggest;

Tasi
Estrilda
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora

You'll win under these conditions :

Arden gets charmed, Arden roots Nemora, Ankhira, and Brutus before he roars.

Make sure Shemira has Call, and Estrilda has dura's eye!
Blade for Nemora (if you have signature item)
Drape for Tasi
Grace for Lyca.

lapis crystal
glacial tartan
maiden gull
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Legitimately stuck for 1-3 days per level or so.

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Is that standard? If so im 3 years from getting to current content, I’ve gotten different input but no comp has seemed to stick eo Im sorta confused/unsure. At the end of the day im sure more levels etc will eventually brute force everything

proven thunder
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@maiden gull ur problem right now is that u ascend too many legendary, as for team comp, im not too sure as im kinda new as well

maiden gull
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I get what you're saying, I agree I shouldn't have upgraded thane/fawkes, but the rest I went straight to L+ which is what I was told is reccomended.

lofty depot
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@maiden gull Put Lucius and Fawkes at the front

supple pulsar
lofty depot
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Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca

Try that and make sure Arden roots Kaz @supple pulsar

limpid quail
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@lapis crystal have you tried
nemora
lucius/lyca
tasi/lyca
brutus
saveas

supple pulsar
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issue is shem gets banished and my backline melts though

lapis crystal
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will try

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yeah no everything just melts, i'll keep leveling up and trying then

limpid quail
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@glacial tartan put arden in the crystal and try
tasi
lucius
arden
shemira
nemora

glacial tartan
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I should rly lvl up Arden and saveas

lofty depot
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@glacial tartan Whats your question? 🤐

limpid quail
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@glacial tartan saveas is the strongest carry until lvl 160, and arden one of the best supports with 3 roots at lvl 141, so yeah they are pretty good to have

limpid quail
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@proven locust try
fawkes
lucius/estrilda
tasi/nemora
brutus
shemira
ulmus and nemora are pain in the same team. also dont make so much L heroes. you are holding yourself back a bit, because you could use the fodder for heroes that you have enough copies to ascend further. only go L when you have the E+ to go L+ straight away

opal thistle
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any tips on challenger arena teams? thx

proven locust
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@limpid quail ok will take ur advice

violet igloo
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@opal thistle what you can first of all is group teams by factions, to have 4/1 or 3/2. And have at least 1 carry per team

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I like having a GB base and also a Wilder base. Then work around that

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You could try 4 GB for 1 team, 4 wilders for 1 team, then for the 3rd team put the 3 maulers and then fill with LB ?

oak lance
shy mesa
violet igloo
tired lynx
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Does haste do anything for you @shy mesa

limpid quail
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@opal thistle dont place your strongest team first. this is how most people will attack, put you lowest team first and then raise the bar

violet igloo
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@oak lance do you have arden ?

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@limpid quail really ? I always look at the 3 teams then place manually every hero vs the 2 lowest teams

shy mesa
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@tired lynx yes and no, ive been messing around if I kill Brutus and Warek the turret guy up top messes everything up

limpid quail
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@violet igloo yes you do that, but most are too lazy to adjust every time since you cant just move formations from 1 to 3 but have to place every single hero

tired lynx
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have you tried swapping Tasi with Fawkes?

violet igloo
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@limpid quail I guess it depends if you are like in top 20 or you are gold rank I guess.

oak lance
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@violet igloo yeah i do, i’ll try

limpid quail
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@violet igloo sure when you want to be in the top you always have to adjust to have the advantage

opal thistle
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would you change anything in that setup?

violet igloo
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What's wierd is that @opal thistle is 3rd on her server yet she's asking us lol elethathink

limpid quail
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but in lower ranks its "oh he hast a bit lower power i'll just attack"

opal thistle
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rank means nothing, i like to evolve by listening to diff opinions

violet igloo
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Your setup is pretty goold ! However Rosaline front line? I don't know 😄 lol

odd python
shy mesa
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@tired lynx no I suppose I could swap them places but idk if she'll survive the mad sprint

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She does but it doesn't help

tired lynx
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Why did you merc Fawkes tho, his coffin overlaps with Tasi's banish

shy mesa
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My Fawkes was only E+ I was trying to see if he could ult a few times instead of once

tired lynx
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To dispel Brutus' gasp?

shy mesa
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And wareks shield yes

tired lynx
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I think merc Belinda instead of Fawkes will crush them

shy mesa
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If this merc Fawkes had call I could use Tasi and he to take two of them out

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And if that's the case I'm happy with waiting if I have to since I only need 2 stages to reach my goal of chapter 22 by my summon session. I know if Kaz were 240 I'd also be in a better spot but what can I do

rare karma
violet igloo
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do you have arden ?

proven locust
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@limpid quail worked perfectly thanks

rare karma
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Yeah at 160 L+ @violet igloo

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My Lyca is only E though, at 192

violet igloo
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ok then you can try the comp I sent you. You'll need a few retries.

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It doesn't matter, she's there to give haste mostly.

rare karma
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@violet igloo Ira wrecks my Shem

violet igloo
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Ira needs to be rooted twice

rare karma
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And Kaz wrecks my Brutus @violet igloo

violet igloo
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hehe gj @rare karma

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I have to go rn i'll see you later 🙂 i'll give u comp advice (sorry i'm late xD)

limpid quail
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@rare karma try
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi/arden

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also consider sharing you full hero pool so we know what options we have

rare karma
glacial tartan
rare karma
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Its Vurk that’s the problem, as he poisons Shem @limpid quail

Edit: Nvm, Raine poisons me, Silvina is the issue

limpid quail
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@rare karma thats why i had nem top to charm vurk so he poisons her allies

violet igloo
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@glacial tartan you should overlevel your Shemira, she's your carry. Have ver level 140 and your other heroes level 100

rare karma
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@limpid quail Silvina takes out my nemora before she can charm

limpid quail
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tasi/arden should have the lowest defense so she jumps on them

quasi patio
west cairn
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Guys does anyone have screenshot of comp for 23-24

quasi patio
west cairn
limpid quail
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@quasi patio use arden instead of belinda you dont need 2 carries

quasi patio
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@limpid quail my main problem atm is that my entire lineup melts vs that comp. Is it just just a waiting process to collect more dust before I can progress again?

limpid quail
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@quasi patio saveas to 140 will probably give you the edge

novel adder
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@quasi patio you can try
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan/fawkes

You need to snipe the niru first. but that's dependent on whether your lucius can survive or not.. You can try belinda swapping position with lucius.. and hopefully the 20 level difference helps.. Or swap out the whole 3 lights for wilders.. but you lose a lot of damage that way.

quasi patio
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@novel adder Thanks managed to luck out and barely win the stage with the fawkes variation 😄

novel adder
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👍

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@west cairn isnt that 23-24? if you want to pass it easily.. probably rent a thoran with signature unlocked..
let brutus tank athalia.. put thoran in brut position.. and rng til you can thoran one shot everyone.. or most people with the rest as cleanup crew..

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@fleet hawk do you at least have an E brutus somewhere? its precisely situations like these where brutus is useful XD
if you have good lyca gear try lyca dodge tank (with dura's grace and lots of rng)
Tasi
Lyca
Estrilda
Shem
Nemora.
Im assuming tasi banished brutus and nemora charms vurk.

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@glacial tartan positioning wise you can improve..
Numisu
Lucius
Tidus/Estrilda
Brutus
Belinda
You want belinda to hit the mini aoe where khasos and kaz congregates. You can drop numisu and tidus for estrilda+shemira as well.

gaunt umbra
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I am also very Low on hero experience

novel adder
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@gaunt umbra try playing with faction bonus since youre running on a few level 1s with minor impact..
something like
Antandra
Eironn
any mauler (preferably ranged)
Brutus
any mauler/wilder preferably ranged.

gaunt umbra
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Ok let me try will report if it works or not

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I don’t have a ranged mauler

novel adder
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any mauler will do.. just preferably haha.. coz they will die anyway..

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so if ranged they will still do a little bit more.

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but it mostly will depend on eironns rng

gaunt umbra
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And Brutus

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Nearly won there was one enemy left

violet igloo
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did you try antandra bot instead of ira ?

west cairn
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@novel adder thanks

gaunt umbra
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???

odd python
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f300 any ideas?

ember bane
lofty depot
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@gaunt umbra Do you not have a single hero in your crystal? I'd use Hogan as tank. Also you should always level 5 heroes manually and put rest in crystal

modern python
stiff pendant
glossy pagoda
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Put belinda in middle back, so she focusses ankhira over golus, if that is not enough bring rigby close to 100and reset the wilders to 61

lofty depot
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@pale kettle use Saveas instead of shem and replace Athalia with Lyca

pale kettle
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I am sorry but i have already tried it and i died

glossy pagoda
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Then try rosaline at crystal with duras call, so shemira gets double ult

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Also use rowan then, to buy time

limpid quail
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@glossy pagoda please consider to @ people which you are referring to, it makes everbodys life easier. they know they have an answer on their question and others know which questions has already been awnsered 🙂

umbral wraith
violet igloo
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@umbral wraith I'd say Brutus Saveas Lyca Arden and Nemora

lofty depot
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Saveas
Lucius
Lyca
Hogan
Arden/Nemora

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I don't understand what you meant about your E and E+ heroes though

violet igloo
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And have Saveas be overleveled compared to your other heroes, he will do MAX DPS

umbral wraith
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@lofty depot I meant I realise it's best to have your highest ascended levelled and the rest on the crystal but since my main team needed the levels (was using Maulers + Lyca/Arden) I was going to wait until the level 100 cap for Elites became a problem before resetting so I could keep Brutus and Saveas overlevelled
edit: and thank you guys for the lineup help!

austere nova
violet igloo
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No 🙂 you don't need too @umbral wraith haha

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@austere nova no you are fine like that 🙂 gj on rowan ascended

austere nova
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I guess my qeustion is... the bonus Rowan gets is not as powerful at 201 as Belinda, nor does he do damage. I'm wondering since i'm about to be Ascended capped, unable to get my crystal past 200 right now, should i swap out Rosaline for a 220 Belinda to help with dps?

glossy pagoda
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@austere nova Rosalines provides already quite good dps (in form of tableware and damage boosts)

austere nova
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haha, getting rowan to 220 still gets one shot'd on 22-36... going up against npc's who are in the 258 lvl range... ugh

violet igloo
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yep, we've all been there

zenith tusk
serene basin
limpid quail
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@zenith tusk have you tried wilder backline, requires some good rng though
nemora
shemira
arden
lucius
tasi/lyca

violet igloo
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@serene basin mauler can be the slowest tower to climb. Sometimes you just need to arm yourself with patience

glossy pagoda
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@serene basin If you cant have enemy brutus to reach his invul first by manually using ur own ult, u probaply need better levels or a strong merc

serene basin
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@glossy pagoda @violet igloo at what point is saveas no longer useful, or when does vurk take his place, vurk doesn't seem to do anything

limpid quail
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@serene basin you have to unlock his sig for him to be really useful. saveas stops doing anything somewhere between 60-80, so at 88 he is useless for you: lvl 160 vs 230

violet igloo
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@serene basin about chap 14

serene basin
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The sad part is he still does more damage than many of the others I've tried....

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@limpid quail I mean my savaes does basicsally just as much as my Brutus, except that the spider lady stops him

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hes the only way i can remotely get the enemy brutus to go invuln first

limpid quail
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@serene basin a carry type hero should definitly do more at lvl 200 than your 160 saveas. khasos is really good, did you try to put him top? but is it really that brutus that is wrecking you or do enemy khasos and saveas kill your team first?

serene basin
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its both, both scenerios happen, depending on how i set it up

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how do i stop the ankhira from stopping my units with her web

limpid quail
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well you are way behind in ascension tiers which has to be taken into account as well. 2 M(+) and 3 E+ vs full ascended

serene basin
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well technicaly i could make my khasos mythic +, i have a spare savaes at L+, but i havent because im so close to also getting enough copies of others to make them ascended straight away

violet igloo
#

What ascenscion is your shemira ?

limpid quail
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thats the mauler problem, they have no reliable interrupt CC like other factions

serene basin
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im doing maulter tower, i dont need my shemira but shes 1 star

violet igloo
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oh yeah homegalul

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well my mauler tower is like 10-15 levels lower than other towers so I wouldn't sweat it if you can't beat it

serene basin
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im just trying to level it up so i can get the 100 in all armor upgrade stones

violet igloo
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you'll just get the rewards, just a bit later. 🙂

glossy pagoda
#

Do you buy skreg at lab currently? If yes you could ascend him further, so more tankiness and cc for you

violet igloo
#

Skreg is really good with his Signature Item

serene basin
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no i dont, but i think im going to finish khasos next i need two copies and then hes ascended, then maybe skreg, who i also think needs two copies

violet igloo
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in that case you'll be able to move up the mauler tower easier

serene basin
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i also think im at the point in the game where faction scrolls are hard to come by, im in chapter 22 , so only end of chapter rewards, or events

limpid quail
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thats true, but i wouldnt spend them on maulers anyway

lapis crystal
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@limpid quail thanks, what ended up working for me was
belinda
rosaline
nemora
rowan
lucius

serene basin
#

@limpid quail but skreg is the next closet shop hero past the khasos

limpid quail
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@serene basin but the overall pool is better in other factions, thats why i wouldnt spend faction scrolls on maulers

serene basin
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it just that im so close to having the skreg in theory, every thing else needs like 3 or 5 or 6

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i jsut need so many copies of the other store heros

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well i acutally just rng'd the floor 88, now on to 89@limpid quail

willow spruce
limpid quail
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@serene basin nice, congrats. as i said i personally dont focus on maulers and just let them come naturally, the only thing i did was going for my last brutus in an event

serene basin
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yeah i just need one more brutus to make him ascended, and its not like i tried to get maulers, they just came to me

gaunt umbra
#

Hey try removing all the other heroes from ur wishlist it works only put Brutus

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Trust me I got Brutus on my third single summon

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@serene basin

violet igloo
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@willow spruce try Shemira, Grzehul, Lucius, Rosaline, Nara (merc)

serene basin
#

if im not wrong, that doesnt work that way...@gaunt umbra
are they right?@limpid quail

gaunt umbra
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@serene basin but I got it on my third try

serene basin
#

i just looked this up, and it says thats not how it works

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@gaunt umbra you musta got really lucky

limpid quail
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@gaunt umbra lucky you. wishlist works best when all slots are filled

gaunt umbra
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Oh lol ok that’s new thx guys

sage mango
#

Can someone suggest the best 3 teams I can make for Challenger using the below image? 🙂 That or two really strong teams and the third team can be weaker.

violet igloo
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Well I would go for 2 strong teams :
Shemira Grezhul Tasi Eiron Athalia
Khasos Lucius Rowan Belinda Fawkes

woven lichen
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@idle oriole does tasi instead of Arden help? Banish shemira and sleep with ult.

idle oriole
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Will try it

serene basin
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well i have gotten to 91, just not sure how to stop fawkes

white birch
violet igloo
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@white birch you should have Shemira level 200 and other heroes level 160-180. She must be overleveled as she is your carry

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Oh wait I'm a doofus, you can't because you need her M+

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You can give your Saveas L+ to your Brutus 🙂 and level him up. Comp wise, you can try Brutus, Lucius, Tasi, Lyca, Kaz maybe

velvet grail
woven lichen
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@velvet grail are you close? I would move Rowan to middle back so potions can reach hogan.

west cairn
#

Try mehira for 30% def boost as well

violet igloo
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elethathink Try swapping Tasi with Ferael maybe ? Also you could try putting in Arden maybe @velvet grail

velvet grail
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Sometimes its close also i can ascend higan to l+ but idk if its worth

woven lichen
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@velvet grail hogan to L+ is a safe move. He is already L so can’t fodder him to someone else until L+ anyways

violet igloo
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You can put your Hogan to L+, he won't go any further since you already have a spare E+ copy. Hogan is not that bad for a tank early game

robust cape
#

Been stuck on chapter 16 for a little over a week, any advice on hero line up? The first 5 are the ones I normally run with

copper patio
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how are u stuck on 16 with those many M heroes?

robust cape
#

Dude it’s driving me crazy

copper patio
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I have Shemira m+ and I rush through that shit easy

robust cape
#

Up to here easy breezy but hit 16-16 and can’t get past

violet igloo
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@robust cape Try leveling your shemira to the max possible (180 it seems) then leveling other heroes and you can try Ulmus Estrilda, Nemora Shemira Lyca

copper patio
violet igloo
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your shemira must always be overleveled compared to your other heroes. Like she's level 200 other heroes are level 160-170

copper patio
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Shemira, Brutus, Belinda, Lucius and Rosalina

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All I need for now

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Tho Im "stuck" at 16-16 cuz I want that mythic gear yo

honest storm
copper patio
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LBs the key xD

winter matrix
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@honest storm Yes. Put Shemira in Tasis spot so she gets ult faster. Then switch Tasi/Arden for Lyca

honest storm
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Helped, thanks @winter matrix🇨

teal hinge
onyx blaze
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@teal hinge IMO shemira, rosa,rowan,lucius and lorsen

woven lichen
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@hasty fjord try Nemora instead of fawkes to charm Arden. Having both tasi and fawkes doesn’t always work either since usually only one of them banishes or coffins. Could put Lyca for Raine for faction bonus too... potentially could reset Fawkes and Raine to push shemira to 240 too

hasty fjord
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I know shemira would be helpful higher level, but I dont really want to spend the diamonds right now to reset. Unless you think it is a needed change.

woven lichen
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@hasty fjord you can try without. It usually makes it easier for shemira to tank and her ult kills faster.

woven nimbus
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Having Shemira at 240 is a massive massive boost over having her at 220.

hasty fjord
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I guess I will try leveling her to 240 and take raine and fawkes down.

woven nimbus
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Shemira gets blade

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Shemira pretty much always gets either blade or call. Depends on how fast you need to get the ult out. Some fights you might need to get it out a couple seconds earlier to avoid a CC.

hasty fjord
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What about everyone else? Or it doesnt Matter so much?

woven lichen
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@hasty fjord if using tasi, she gets call. The rest is more about survivability and delaying until shemira can ult. This changes later on when shemira is no longer your main carry (after everyone else is at L240)

hasty fjord
#

When does shemira fall off? And who replaces her as the main carry?

woven nimbus
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Shemira falls off around chapter 23/24. There are multiple replacements. Belinda. Farael. Eironn. Athalia.

hasty fjord
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Thanks for the heads up

woven lichen
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@hasty fjord nice job 👍

woven nimbus
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Shemira not 240?

hasty fjord
#

Best the chapter. Also, shemira was at 240 but somehow it says 220... I am confused.

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And my fawkes reset to 160 for some reason. He was at 200

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Is there a person I should be shooting for to level up and power up my team more? I was hunting lucius but that is a challenge. Lol.

woven lichen
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@hasty fjord probably a tank at a high level... Thoran can work since resurrects and faction bonus with shemira. Ascending tasi, Lyca, and Nemora is good too... if you ever manage to get more Lucius and Belinda though... then can swap over to lb setup too... Lucius, Rowan, Rosa, Belinda, fawkes

hasty fjord
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I will hunt lightsborn for now then. I really want lucius as my main tank. I have enough memory to ascend her once I get 2 more purple fodder since I have 4 copies of her purple+ already. Thank you so very much @woven lichen . You have no idea how appreciative I am for your help!

odd python
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@quiet falcon try
shem
lucius
rowan
brutus
athalia

quiet falcon
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did it with this, thanks anyway had to try a few times tho

odd python
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should be a breeze for you with crystal at 240 for the rest of the chap, just spam those disablers cos ur shem looks pretty busted

quiet falcon
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shes quite good yeah 😛 2 faction gear on her + 30 signature item struggeling on the last stage now tho

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@upbeat moat need ur whale butt to help me ❤️

odd python
quiet falcon
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sorted it was quite lucky 😛

violet igloo
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Poor Nemora in front line lol. Have u tried Lucius? U also might need to try until she charms Ferael, 🤔

ivory breach
pale kettle
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@ivory breach you have it easy bro. it used to be four lucius'.
if it's really that tough to beat, rent a merc. i beat it with an A Khasos with like +20 sig, but he doesn't have to be that powerful.

ivory breach
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i have my khasos at M+ +1 but not enough i guess

pale kettle
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@teal hinge can you post your full roster?

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@ivory breach do you have Numisu or Atandra?

teal hinge
proper ether
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Is a 141 L+ Thane better than a 140 L Saveas?

ivory breach
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only at like E

pale kettle
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@proper ether no. Thane is considered to be a mediocre hero.

proper ether
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Oh sad

pale kettle
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@ivory breach Antandra can take a hit pretty well and Numisu is good for healing

marble hawk
pale kettle
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@teal hinge use your Nara to interrupt Silvina's jump

knotty bough
teal hinge
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Ok

pale kettle
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@knotty bough
Arden
Hogan
Saveas
Grez
Lyca

knotty bough
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Didn’t work unfortunately

pale kettle
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you should get a Tasi.
and be more specific with what didnt work

silver leaf
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how can i contact support

knotty bough
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Who’s tasi?

pale kettle
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the Wilder fairy.

knotty bough
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Ok hopefully I can get her in packs. Niru is always the last one standing.

pale kettle
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you need to CC the fuck out of him

knotty bough
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Who else do I use beside Arden to CC him? Shemira?

violet igloo
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@silver leaf you can contact support in game by clicking on your profile picture then going to "support"

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You can also send a message to member called AFK Arena CS (I won't ping him on purpose) you can see him/her in the member list 🙂

pale kettle
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@knotty bough Shem isn't really CC, you could try to get Nem to charm him

pale kettle
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Rosa
Shem
Nem
. Lucius
Arden
if Rosa dies too fast to be a useful support, put in Fawkes. @graceful mountain

violet igloo
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How many extra copies of Brutus do you have ?

pale kettle
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@graceful mountain get Lyca when you can.
put Tasi on crystal. she's a very useful CC hero.

drifting nymph
pale kettle
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those L's brutus

drifting nymph
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Yeah ik

pale kettle
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wheres your Shem?

drifting nymph
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Ew

violet igloo
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@graceful mountain i 'd try
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Lucius
Tasi

pale kettle
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whatthefawkes @drifting nymph

drifting nymph
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Can u help or not? I don't use shemira

violet igloo
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@pale kettle homegalul @drifting nymph who is your carry ? Looks like it's belinda

drifting nymph
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Yes

violet igloo
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Ok. It seems that you have used a lot of fodder to ascend heroes from E+ to L. This was not absolutely necessary (it's not useless in the long run though, so no need to worry 🙂 ). Ideally you want to try and use at least 3 heroes from same factions and if possible highest ascension that you have. It's true that Shemira is a good carry at your level, but people also use Belinda. Belinda + Lucius + Rowan is your core. You can add Tasi and Nemora (you can buy Nemora through Lab). Try and only ascend heroes that you use in campaign, the others can patiently wait 🙂

drifting nymph
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I ascended all those legendaries pretty early in the game
I've known for a while that it wasn't necessary

hushed gyro
violet igloo
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Yes I can see that 🙂 it's not really a problem though tbh

drifting nymph
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So can I have some help with the stage?

violet igloo
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Did you read the end of my message ? : D

drifting nymph
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So both tasi and nemora?

violet igloo
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@hushed gyro well I'd say that you need to ascend your Saveas as soon as you can so that you can overlevel him compared to your other heroes.

Also put your Brutus instead of Mehira he can hold longer vs ennemy Brutus + get the 3faction bonus

hushed gyro
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There is a 3 faction bonus oh didnt know that

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Dang still getting crushed need to ascend sav

violet igloo
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@hushed gyro click on the mark on top left corner 😉 where you see purple right now

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Try This :
Numisu
Brutus
Arden
Hogan
Saveas

hushed gyro
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Yeah still got crushed silvana just like 2 shots arden

violet igloo
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ah yes, she's annoying. Can't use arden in those fights (yet) Silvana always TPs to the weakest mage on your team

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if you only have shemira in that team, then she'll jump on her, you can try that. This is why having multiple heroes is so good in this game

final meteor
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you dont have a rowan + rosaline?

near plover
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somewhere below

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oke now i have l+ ros

stone geode
near plover
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and e+ row

final meteor
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use lucius, rosa, shemira, belinda rowan

surreal venture
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Could use some help too with my ice shem team x]

near plover
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so right now ros+ rowan best team

surreal venture
final meteor
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it was very close, because only L and L+ lightbearers lol

proper ether
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Can someone help me with Wrizz and ice shemira lineup

stone geode
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Tried belinda instead of estrilda and I get pretty much the same

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So my max is still 85% with shem lucius belinda Rowan Rosaline :/

charred mountain
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i tryed with shem lucius belinda fawkes Rosaline and got 85 aswell

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fawkes ult can be usefull if u dont go auto, since it take of the debuff

final meteor
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i gave call to rowan and eye to rosa

stone geode
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Have the same

next raven
#

Lol the 40 fodder is actually very tempting

stone geode
#

Well it’s a new record I guess ><

indigo jolt
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@stone geode Use Lorsan instead of Shem.

stone geode
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My belinda is only L+ tho lol

indigo jolt
#

oh instead of Bel then, maybe.

stone geode
#

I’ll try

eager jay
final meteor
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@eager jay have u tried putting 2nd best gear + eye on rosa, 3rd best gear + call on rowan

modern saffron
eager jay
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Yes, I've swapped things around a bit too. Doesn't seem to matter. I max out at 91

final meteor
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hmm thats weird, i have 200 crystal , L+ lucius and M+ belinda and it worked

stone geode
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Barely lmao, shem with 1hp

wintry ether
pale kettle
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By swapping Safiya with Vurk, it can reliably get me three keys, but no more than that.
Vurk is currently the only unit who Rosaline will follow over Estrilda. Otherwise, I have to swap Estrilda out for someone else.

cerulean hamlet
#

Are you able to get shem to 240? She'd help the most as damage carry probably though Belinda could also maybe work

pale kettle
#

Even without Rosaline following them, or do I need to reset Estrilda?

cerulean hamlet
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If you swap around gear a bit with lower tiers on estrilda you should be able to get Rosa to follow Bel/Shem, otherwise the lineup is fine though you could consider lucius over twins.

Err, reset Numisu I'd say

pale kettle
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OK. I need him to not die horribly in labyrinth runs, though, so I'll have to level him back every two days.

cerulean hamlet
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mh, you can just have him at 220 in crystal I think? with Shem carry it should be fine I'd think

pale kettle
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I Vurk carry in labyrinth since I have his SI pretty much maxed out, though it's less an issue of him dying and more an issue of the rest of the team not getting enough healing so Shemira won't fare much better in that regard.

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Thank you for the advice. I'll try doing a labyrinth run with a lower levelled Numisu and see how it goes.

cerulean hamlet
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I'll say though, Shemira will work frontline so removes pressure from your roster to survive for her to do her thing if that's an issue

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Rosa - Rowan - some LB - Grezhul - Shemira perhaps

pale kettle
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Yeah, she's very useful. I use her as my carry on my alternate account, but my main account's for favourites.

As for Ice Shemira, I've been using Rosaline (legendary+), Rowan (elite+), (damage), Estrilda (ascended 1*), and Elijah and Lailah (elite). Would that be good, or is Grezhul better than Estrilda?

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Hm... surviving with a lower levelled Numisu takes quite a lot more effort, but it's doable. I'll get to levelling Shemira.

cerulean hamlet
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Estrilda would generally be better due to the energy regen to help your team spam more ults. It'd help with a good DPS source like Bel or Shem but otherwise:
Carry - Estrilda - Rosaline - Rowan - Twins/Lucius should be able to get you 100%

pale kettle
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Got it! Just to be sure, the list of units is from top to bottom, right?
What artifacts would be best on them? I think Blade for the carry and Eye for Estrilda are good, but I'm not sure about the others.

cerulean hamlet
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That's be the order too yeah 😅
Blade - Shem
Eye - Rosa
Call - Rowan
Grace - Estrilda
XX - XX
I''d say though

pale kettle
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Anything goes for the twins? Alright, got it.
Thanks again for all the help!

odd python
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this lineup works alright, blade shem, eye rosa, call rowan, chalice estrilda, drape twins

cerulean hamlet
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Anything goes yeah because you can't heal anyways

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I guess drape would be fine for the defense

scarlet stump
rich snow
#

Lucius, Shemira, Belinda, Rosaline, and... huh, can't decide on a good fifth for you.

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Maybe Lyca? 🤔 she debuffs enemy def with each attack.

cerulean hamlet
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Put your twins in crystal and use them too

rich snow
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Oh, I don't see twins. It must be one of those celestials at the bottom?

Yeah, definitely use twins.

cerulean hamlet
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You can see their headwear protruding on the bottom frame

rich snow
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My eyesight isn't the best all the time, haha.

But yeah, easy 5 keys with that setup.

scarlet stump
#

Thanks guys much appreciated. I will try all suggestions

rich snow
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Yeah, get twins in.

So the first four I said + twins. Probably your best bet unless anyone has a better idea.

cerulean hamlet
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Rowan over Lucius/Belinda would be a possibility, otherwise nothing really

split prairie
#

Looking for suggestions for event on this account. Have 9 more accounts with different heroes to try, if you guys want to see what team comp can do what, let me know

rich snow
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Oh, I didn't see Rowan, haha.

But yeah if you have Rowan, he's also good. I'd probably take Rosaline just cuz she'll bulk up Shemira harder, whereas Rowan is more team-oriented.

scarlet stump
cerulean hamlet
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You can move around gear so lucius has lower combat rating than shemira

rich snow
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Oh, dang. That sucks. Yeah, probably that extra star...

You COULD try maybe nerfing Lucius' gear just a bit?

The extra pump from Rosaline can really put Shem over the top.

scarlet stump
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Great thanks guys. I will do that.

cerulean hamlet
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@split prairie
Shemira - Rosaline - Rowan - Estrilda - Belinda maybe

pale kettle
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Well, I ended up with 2 keys, which is still worse than the Vurk team.

mental forum
#

I can't be the only one getting fking annihilated at like 40 percent

celest mango
#

@odd python Thanks for the lineup, its worked!

cerulean hamlet
#

🤔 Did you get shem to level 240? But maybe try move around gear and so and see? I think it should be doable with some okay RNG and so @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Yes, Shemira is level 240.

midnight coral
cerulean hamlet
#

Hmm, I'd think you should be able to get 5 keys then unless Rosa still follows Estrilda elethathink

pale kettle
#

If it matters, Shemira's SI is only +10.

cerulean hamlet
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It shouldn't much, +10 vs +20 shouldn't be 60% different

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@midnight coral Shemira - Estrilda - Twins - Rowan - Lucius/Belinda maybe

ripe kelp
#

I need some help. Shem, Bel, Rosa, Rowan, Estrilda got me to 90%, but I cant find the lacking 10%

pale kettle
#

Oh, what about artifact levels? How high do they need to be?

split prairie
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@cerulean hamlet 48.1% with that comp in order given gonna try to swap some mercs around

cerulean hamlet
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level 2 or so on all should be okay? Most people only have them around 2-3 anyhow

pale kettle
#

Alright, I managed to hit 83.8% after gear moving.

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I think that's as good as it gets for me, since the difficulty of my Ice Shemira is probably adjusted to my 3* Vurk instead of my Shemira.

mental forum
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Do u guys put grace or chalice on lucius?

odd python
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@celest mango np 🙂

cerulean hamlet
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Chalice for HP + def

tropic otter
ember bane
flat gyro
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I can't get more then two keys on ice Shem

pale kettle
gritty sail
onyx blaze
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@ember bane try shemira,rowan,rosa,twins& lorsen, just make sure to give them best possible gear and a artifact worked for me hope it can help u.

wispy raven
flat gyro
ember bane
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@onyx blaze i don't have twins

odd python
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try raine maybe

onyx blaze
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@ember bane try estrilda or raine both buffers could mby work

glossy pagoda
#

@flat gyro do you have a lorsan, that you can field instead of numisu?

flat gyro
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@glossy pagoda I have a basic elite of him.

glossy pagoda
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Should still do some work, try him

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He amplifys ult damage by 190

pastel robin
#

Idid with this comp, any suggestions?

flat gyro
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Thanks yeti 🙂 ended up trying Rowan instead of num and it worked out.

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Didn't think of replacing numi because of his healing, I was worried I needed it

scarlet stump
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@rich snow thanks. With gear replacement, I managed to get 3 keys.

paper wadi
tall forge
ember bane
pale kettle
#

Ice shem team? I got 3 with shem, bel, lucius, rosaline, hendrik

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Also messed up and didn’t realize i could retry

odd python
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@ember bane swap lucius for estrilda?

woven nimbus
#

So many Ice Shemira questions... And then there’s me... Random pleb stuck on Wilder 140.

tranquil breach
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@woven nimbus just destroyed that stage with Eironn, just merch an ascended eironn n ure good

sleek portal
#

@ember bane do not put dps or hard carry front line

ember bane
sleek portal
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@ember bane swap lucius out for twins, ascension doesnt matter

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@ember bane also use lorsan instead of shemira/belinda depending on who's your carry

proper ether
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Can someone help me with Ice Shemira line up?

devout roost
woven lichen
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@proper ether saveas, Rowan, thane, estrilda, Belinda? ... could also try eironn, estrilda, Nemora, saveas, lyca.... guild boss parties seem to work out well

ember bane
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@sleek portal I don't have twins so what to use

woven lichen
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@devout roost swap athalia and Nemora... Nemora charms Arden. Could also try resetting athalia and grezhul to see if you can get shemira to 240. If possible Brutus might be a better tank than grezhul since faction advantage

devout roost
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Athalia is a Merc. Not my own

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If I had a few more diamonds (just spent them on a summon) I could reset Estrilda and Grezhul

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Thx for the advice

woven lichen
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@devout roost I get the feeling I saw this stage in lineup help earlier today too...
Shemira
-lyca
Tasi
-Brutus
Nemora
Or something similar to that... once Arden roots kaz, then up to rng

ember bane
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@woven lichen any advice for Event Shemira I don't have twins

woven lichen
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@ember bane what heroes do you have? Generally Soren/wrizz setups work well.... lorsan, Rosa, Rowan, shemira/Belinda, estrilda/Lucius

proper ether
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@woven lichen thank you! Do you have any advice for what I should use through the campaign? I'm stuck on 10-2 atm

worn swan
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Thoughts ?

proper ether
woven lichen
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@proper ether hmmm you could try saveas, Brutus, Lyca, tasi, and Nemora... ideally should get a L+ Arden as he helps a lot. (This gives a 3-2 faction bonus)

gleaming flax
woven nimbus
proper ether
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@woven lichen ah okay thank you that's what I was using except I used gorvo instead of brutus. Who would an L+ Arden replace?

woven lichen
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@worn swan hmmm Arden and saveas at L+ would help... but guessing you are running a graveborn setup of Baden shemira Kelthur nara and grezhul?

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@gleaming flax try shemira Rowan Rosa estrilda lucius.... can’t see if you have lorsan and twins... if so they are good too

worn swan
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@woven lichen yes

woven lichen
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@proper ether ah Gorvo works too since 4 of same faction. That’s a good setup also. Arden can replace Nemora or tasi... mostly for more crowd control... may have to play around a bit

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@worn swan it’s good for the faction bonus but might be hard to progress later due to lack of fodder or elite heroes... single faction this early might require pulling a lot more to avoid level caps. At this stage of the game, better to ascend 1 hero of each faction and an extra one in the faction with the most fodder

worn swan
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@woven lichen so should I go a different route?

olive thorn
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@woven nimbus your lucius have time to ult on this setup?

woven lichen
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@worn swan if it works for you, I would keep it for now. But just try to focus on ascending a single graveborn for now. Shemira is popular since available in the shop. Other ones can be more due to luck... and a lot of fodder needed to reach ascended stage. At the same time, pick one hero in each faction to ascend such as Nemora, Khasos, estrilda, etc all shop heroes or any one that you end up having lots of copies of

maiden patrol
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hmm this team scaling with ice shemira , any tips 253lvl after many tries maximum i achieved 67%

odd python
woven lichen
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@maiden patrol I would replace Belinda/shemira with lorsan... only one carry. Twins if available are nice too

still oar
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Make Ros follow Belinda and replace shem with lorsan or twins @maiden patrol

sharp flame
still oar
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Try
Rosa

Shem
Rowan
Luc
Twins/lorsan
Play around with Rowan Rosa twins luc lorsan as support usually will net you 5 keys with maybe a lil bit difficulty @sharp flame

sharp flame
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@still oar amazing thanks

idle oriole
woven lichen
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@idle oriole shemira Lucius Rowan Rosa twins?

west cairn
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I used estrilda instead of twins and Belinda also works too

idle oriole
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Thx guys 👌

sharp flame
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@still oar for reward I should aim.for the 15 scrolls right?

woven lichen
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@sharp flame best rewards seem to be scrolls, elite hero (Rowan, eironn, twins, mehira), or red emblems

scarlet agate
ember bane
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@scarlet agate @old ore use Shemira Lucius twins Rosa Lorsan Belinda/rowan

old ore
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@ember bane that's 6 heroes...

ember bane
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It's Belinda or Rowan which you have

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Replace any1 for them

old ore
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I got 77% this is way too hard. Could you tell me relics too?

scarlet agate
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Dont have Lorsan or Rosa :(

west cairn
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@woven lichen isn’t fodder pretty good?

ember bane
lofty stump
devout berry
indigo jolt
pale rover
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@ember bane @gaunt umbra Hi, please move to direct messages if you'd like to continue discussing. This is specifically for lineup help and having a fullblown discussion here spams the channel. Thank you!

harsh solstice
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I can also make Shemira lv 161 M+ if I spend 4.8k lab coins rn

still oar
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Try with
Rosa

Belinda(Shem)
Rowan
Luc
Lorsan
Try with Belinda first if you can get to 90% or more you should be able to 100% it and if you somehow have twins they will work wonder helping Shem @harsh solstice

harsh solstice
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Ok thanks!

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@still oar just wanted to thank you again cuz that setup got me to 100% while my main teams struggled to hit 70%. Not what I expected 🙂

sleek stone
still oar
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Try
Rosa

Shem
Rowan
Grezhul (lucius)
Twins
With Shem it'll be longer fight since you can't burst ice probably will end up with 95+ and a time out which you just need to rng it to achieve 100%.
If your damage isn't enough you can also try lorsan in place of grezhul or luc. If you don't have enough def and die too fast try
Shem
Grezhul
Rowan
Luc
Rosa/twins @sleek stone

ember bane
still oar
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Try the Shem comp above @ember bane. The one with grezhul and replace twins with lorsan, luc or estrilda depends on do you need more sustainability or damege.

ember bane
final meteor
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u have call on rowan and eye for rosaline? @ember bane

ember bane
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@final meteor i use call on Rosa eye on rowan

still oar
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Blade on Shem, call either on Rosa, Rowan or Lucius
Try
Shem

Grezhul
Rowan
Luc
Rosa and make sure Rosa follows Shem @ember bane
Idk if you can replace lorsan(grace) with Raine.
Did all of your team live until around 95%?

final meteor
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i had
rosaline(L eye)
shemira(A 2* blade)
rowan (L+ call)
lucius(L+ drape)
belinda(M+ conviction)

ember bane
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@still oar Lorsan then rowan then hardly Lucius rosa n shem survive 5% health

final meteor
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although 200 crystal and 240 shemira might have changed things

paper wadi
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need help for ice shem
got 4 keys with
bel
luc
rowan
shem
rosa

ember bane
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My LB are mostly E+ may be that's why lacking little

still oar
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If your team alive at around 95% then you should be able to rng it

final meteor
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@ember bane try call on rowan? to give lucius more ults for more survivability

still oar
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Do you have twins or lorsan hidden down there @paper wadi?

paper wadi
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yes i have lorsan but only E @still oar

still oar
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It's okay. Try put your best gears and blade on belinda and try
Rosa

Belinda
Rowan
Luc
Lorsan (Grace)
Call could be on luc, Rosa or rowan. You gotta keep lorsan alive as long as possible @paper wadi

paper wadi
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ok i‘ll try thank you

ember bane
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@still oar @final meteor plz check let me know ty

violet igloo
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gratz. Now you know your comp hehe

short mural
violet igloo
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@short mural rosowo

short mural
violet igloo
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Did you have a question @short mural ? homegalul

violet igloo
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Looking for advice @vale wasp ? lycalurk

vale wasp
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yes, I actually started to ask a question in #classic-questions but it makes more sense to continue here 🙂

violet igloo
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Ooh you can ascend your Nemora that's nice.

vale wasp
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I don't have Rowan and I was wondering if Ice Shemira is still doable without it. A lot of suggestions include Rowan. Am I screwed ? 😄

violet igloo
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No you are not. If you have twins and rosaline it's possible

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If you have more ferael you can put him to L and L+ you're gonna need him later

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This might be a reach but you can try Shemira Lucius Baden Lorsan Rosa if you don't have twins...

vale wasp
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I need some fodders to ascend Nemora but that's the plan yes.
Unfortunately I don't have twins. :(
I don't have enough Ferael but it will come eventually (or not :p)

violet igloo
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Actually you can try : Shemira Lucius, Belinda Rosa Baden

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that way Belinda buffs Shemira and you get the faction bonus. Try that and see how it goes. Honestly I wouldn't count on getting 5 keys, if you get 2 or more that's already not bad at all. And don't hesitate to try multiple times, there's a restart button at the end

vale wasp
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Just pushed to 93% (4keys) with
Shem
Rosa
Estrilda
Lucius
Belinda

I will try with some gear/artifacts adjustments 🙂 thanks for the advices

violet igloo
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Make sure to put Dura's Call on Rosa and Blade on Shemira.

rare karma
glossy pagoda
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Is the healing the main problem there? If yes a ferael merc might help. Or maybe even suiciding a satrana for the healreduction.

violet igloo
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@rare karma haha, there are many levels that are worse later : ) You need to be able to output lots of damage with your Shemira to kill 1 or 2 Ulmus before they all start ulting and healing

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@rare karma once you get enough copies of Shemira to ascened her to 240, you can dump all your ressources into her to have her overleved and you'll see she'll clear easy.

eager echo
violet igloo
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Try Rowan instead of Thoran.

glossy pagoda
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Estrilda should be better, rowans potions are disabled anyways

eager echo
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Tywm @glossy pagoda estrilda did 100% once i gave her gear from brutus :D

violet igloo
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Yeah Estrilda is also OP, she gives energies and makes Shemira do less damage. Gratz on 100%

rare karma
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@violet igloo the only way to guarantee a Shem is by Lab store?

cyan pendant
violet igloo
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@rare karma Well if you put her in tavern wishlist you can also have better chance to open her too

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@cyan pendant have you tried mercerany Skregg frontline instead and put Lyca behind ?

cyan pendant
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if khasos is backline, he has highest atk and will get banished

violet igloo
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Yep. Or just replace Lycas with Skregg. If you have a friend with a PHAT skregg you should try

cyan pendant
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khasos can interrupt tasi on a crit but he'd be in an awful position at 5.. can't see getting around having him at 4 hitting all enemies if tasi blinks favorably

violet igloo
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Well you're going to have to retry a few times at least, that's part of the game hehe

cyan pendant
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I might just be getting outmuscled by level at this point ☹

violet igloo
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Patience is part of the game too : ) but have you tried with Skregg ??? homegalul

cyan pendant
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I'll see if I can get a merc, haven't ever used him

violet igloo
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he's a beast you'll see

olive thorn
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Generalities for building a comp against Ice shemira :
Shemira is scaling in term of damage so your objective will be to shutdown her as fast as possible. You will need to play a strong dps hero (Belinda, shemira for exemple) and play support who will increase this dps (twins, lorsan,estrilda,raine...).
If you need survivability, shemira also cancel heal so there is no point to play heal heroes like nemora or Rowan (Rowan with his signature activated can be played for mana energy boost) . You can play around Lucius for his shields, or grezhul for give magic resist to all your team.
You can also remove on your cristal your non used heroes, that will get your shem weakest since his stat is calculated on your total attack rate, decrease your power will decrease Shemira power as well.
Exemple for a final comp :
Rosa
Shemira
Lucius
Lorsan
Twins
Feel free to ask for specific boxes.

restive cloud
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I thought you could still heal during the heavy snow

old ridge
glossy pagoda
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Even not with shemira twins lorsan rosa Lucius?

old ridge
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Yup, everyone just dies in the first snowstorm

glossy pagoda
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Maybe Estrildas damage reduction over twins then

old ridge
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60% max

fleet hawk
violet igloo
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@fleet hawk do you have twins ? (celestial)

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@fleet hawk I'd try Shemira Estrilda Rowan Rosa + Lorsan/twins

fleet hawk
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@violet igloo nope, no twins. can you give an exact layout of the heroes you mentioned? thanks

violet igloo
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Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Estrilda
Lorsan

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try that see how it works out

tired idol
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Need desperate help, please help me with comp/positions/artifacts , thanks in advance guys ❤️ (Ice Shemira event)

violet igloo
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Well seems like your comp is
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

Tasi needs Dura's call, Lyca grace, Brutus eye, Shemira Blade, and Nemora Calice or Drape

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So I would try
Rosa
Shemira
Twins
Estrilda
Belinda

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Shemira blade, twins call, rosa calice, estrilda drape or grace, belinda eye

autumn carbon
wise merlin
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@autumn carbonWhat's up with your Crystal? brutus

Fill up some slots! you have so many level 1s!

violet igloo
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you can also reset Lyca lol

worldly shale
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What lineup would you guys recommend for Soren? I keep waffling between LB cause they are my strongest and wilder cause of the faction bonus (plus shemira of course)

violet igloo
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Hmm you can try

Estrilda/Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda

worldly shale
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thats been my go-to comp for pretty much everything lately. just wasn't sure if the extra damage i take from soren puts all those LB at a disadvantage

violet igloo
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no, not really. That's really the best comp you can do tbh @worldly shale

languid kindle
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Some help on ice shem plz? I only get up to 70% with this comp

tired idol
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@violet igloo thanks for the help, 100% achieved !!

violet igloo
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gratz 🙂 feel free to ask more questions if needed we're here to help

languid kindle
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I really don't get it, the only relyable hero to get this event done is the twins?

vale kraken
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This is why u get many heroes to ascended first rather than prioritizing stars. U end up with limited choices for events like ths

sonic egret
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Stuck on this in lab, they are destroying me.

violet igloo
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@sonic egret replace arthur and lucius with lyca ans tasi, put shemira in front of ennemy lucius. Try that, have have Shemira ult then lyca then tasi in ult animation of Shemira

ocean night
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Rowan gets killed asap. Shemira always not enough MP to get her ult fast enough on any Position.

violet igloo
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@ocean night try and place at least 3 of same faction to get faction bonus (click top left icon in corner). Have you tried replacing Rowan with your L+ Lyca ?

ocean night
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It is the same with nemora. She gets one hitted

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By silvina.

modest sail
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Any lineup suggestions for ice Shemira? Not doing too great against her...

onyx blaze
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@modest sail try shemira,rosa,twins,rowan & lorsen/lucis/mehira/grez just dont forget to give them ur best poss gear + artifact.

modest sail
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I'll give it a shot, thanks @onyx blaze

steel patrol
plain pewter
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So 25-26 is frustrating. Tips please without including merc Arthur

shrewd badger
lapis oar
violet igloo
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@lapis oar Try putting Belinda backline and putting Nara in front of Brutus. If Nara can survive and ult Brutus it should be gg

shrewd badger
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Are there any comps that got 5 keys from the ice event without rosa or rowan?

violet igloo
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@shrewd badger if you have twins and estrilda it's doable, there are other comps that exist.

glossy pagoda
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Lorsan is maybe just as good as rosaline, rowan cant hold a candle to those two(maybe with his si, lowascanded rowan is even worse then Estrilda for this)

shrewd badger
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all of my units are roughly lvl 140 so no si. Looks like I'll be taking 1 key this event each day cause i never got a twin lol

glossy pagoda
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No lorsan either?

shrewd badger
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I've got 2 open spots in the resonator crystal + i can relevel some people as well

glossy pagoda
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Saveas is probaply to stifled by the no heal rule for this fight, so shemira carry probaply the way to go. Id try
Shemira
Lucius
Belinda
Fawkes
Lorsan
First

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If u have estrilda shes probaply more useful then fawkes

shrewd badger
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Estrilida is only elite so would he still be worth?

glossy pagoda
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Its worth a try

steel patrol
glossy pagoda
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As last resort you can try resetting saveas for 140 crystal and try kaz or silvina in shemiras carry position. I have an alt with slightly higher level and
Rosaline
Silvina
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda got me to 100%. the team had everyone at level 147 and rowan was basically dead weight, since his ult didnt even reach silvina

pale kettle
limpid quail
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@pale kettle did you try nemora, lyca, arden backline (top to bottom). the lineup requires good rng and nemora has to charm ferael

pale kettle
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@limpid quail no, because i haven't got arden ;-;

limpid quail
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not even E?

pale kettle
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i tried with blue but 37k👊 only and with stuff

limpid quail
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you can try the R, he only has to root, need to put him in the crystal though

pale kettle
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so he was onshot by all

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no time for his root :(

limpid quail
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on lvl1 he wont do anything of course because the skills arent unlocked

pale kettle
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Yeah i know i'm not silly x)

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so even with stuff & crystal he can't root :(

limpid quail
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also on mid position?

pale kettle
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ah no i didn't try mid :)

lapis oar
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.< @violet igloo didn’t work

pale kettle
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@limpid quail instant kill in all position

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he does absolute nothing

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another comp please :(

limpid quail
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@pale kettle if he doesnt get roots of once he is useless in the fight cant use him then. tasi banished ferael right? then she is no option either cause he has to be charmed. you can try lorsan or gorvo mid or bottom backline if they work

pale kettle
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🤔

violet igloo
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@lapis oar if you're almost winning with your first comp, keep trying you'll get there 🙂

pale kettle
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@limpid quail Stop. Doesn't work. Another compo other than wilder trio please :(

lapis oar
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Hmmm okay then

shrewd badger
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@violet igloo Your build lineup helped me get 3 keys which is significantly better than 1 so thank you 🙂

lapis oar
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@shrewd badger There's a reddit post on r/afkarena about your problem, try checking that out?

violet igloo
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@shrewd badger you're welcome. Hopefully when you level up during the event you might push to 4 keys 😄

woven lichen
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@west cairn the fodder can be good since 40 fodder or equivalent to 3+ elites... but you will generally still be blocked by needing ascended heroes... need 8 copies of the ascended heroes to reach max level. You will get the fodder as you keep pulling while a Rowan or etc might remain elusive

livid terrace
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whats best lineup/top 5 heroes for ice shemira

woven lichen
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@livid terrace there is a pinned message on it but generally high dps and shielding... similar to soren

olive thorn
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@pale kettle Hey, I'll run something like this...

Tasi
Brutus
Khasos
Lyca
Nemora

Ferael
Ezizh
Shemira
Thoran
Mehira

Belinda
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes

gritty sail
violet igloo
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@gritty sail you can try to place nemora behind Shemira so that Shemira can survive a bit longer, she can charm golus. Alternatively, you can reset Brutus, put him to 180 and pump the remaining ressources into your Shemira so that she can be overleveled compared to your team, that's how she works best

gritty sail
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Thanks @violet igloo

violet igloo
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@gritty sail did it work ? elethathink

gritty sail
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Not yet. Gonna reset brutus.

grave hollow
meager aspen
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For ice shemira

cerulean hamlet
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@meager aspen Try Shemira - Grezhul - Rosaline - Estrilda - Fawkes (Do you have a Rowan? and/or twins)

limpid badger
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For campaign

meager aspen
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@cerulean hamlet not rlly i dont have those 2 heroes. Should i lke equip them with the high equipments ? Would it be more effective?

glacial tartan
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I need help with Ice shemira 😦

signal palm
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Stuck at 13-36 if anyone wants to help me with my lineup. Current squad is Belinda, shemira, Rowan, Lucius, and thoran.

pale kettle
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Need help for floor 238

random seal
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Im stuck there too ulricry

woven lichen
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@random seal @pale kettle idea is to stop Arden with nara or Nemora charm. And then boost energy for shemira. Mehira helps to haste everyone

graceful mountain
random seal
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@woven lichen thanks 🙌

woven lichen
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@glacial tartan Rowan, Rosa would help but with what you have shown, can try shemira, Belinda, Lucius, estrilda, and gwyn

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@graceful mountain the most popular one past L160 is shemira with tasi, lyca, Nemora/Arden, and Brutus/Lucius... or shemira with Lucius/Brutus, Rowan, Rosa, fawkes... but if you don’t have shemira, can try an overleveled Brutus eironn Belinda

glacial tartan
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@woven lichen I know right, but I have no luck lol

graceful mountain
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@woven lichen problem is, i haven't pulled a single sherima; even if i started spending lab points on her now, gonna take me months to get her to even L+

woven lichen
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@graceful mountain so unfortunately going to depend a lot on what you pull then since she is the main shop carry... could try khasos, Belinda, eironn, brutus

pale kettle
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Anyone have a mehira to lend me please? It's for floor 238

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Can you guys help me here, please? It's 23-56

violet igloo
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Put fawkes instead of Thoran so that you get faction bonus. See if hogan interrupts his coffin

pale kettle
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And NO triple wilders doesn't work

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Tour du roi tu met trio Wilder non ? Avec shem et brutus devant
Et essaye de charm arden @pale kettle
Perso c'est passé comme ça pour moi

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Je vien de dire que rien ne marchais

sturdy mason
steel patrol
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Hi all, I’m stuck on 16-40. Would anyone know a good lineup against that combo?

vernal quail
indigo jolt
vernal quail
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My Tasi dies one second into the battle. That's not a good sign.

indigo jolt
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@vernal quail Oof didnt see your's was E, yh you wont frontline it then.

vernal quail
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I keep forgetting Gorvo exists, so I'm going to use this as a jumping-off point with him in there somewhere, but yeah, this particular layout isn't going to work for me.

indigo jolt
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Grez/Ferael instead maybe, might need to switch Gorvo with Shem depending on where he jumps.

vernal quail
west cairn
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@steel patrol you need to move lyca to back mid and Arden mirroring Arden and spam stage until Arden roots Arden

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Then I would have Brutus remove kaz dodge but play around and see 🤓

final meteor
indigo jolt
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@final meteor which level?

hushed gyro
final meteor
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@indigo jolt wilder 132

indigo jolt
final meteor
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220 crystal rip.. need the 40 wilder fodder from event to make my eironn 240 ascended 1star

indigo jolt
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@final meteor Might be possible at lower crystal.
Also why is your Eironn 180, yet you have a 240 Lyca?

steel patrol
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@west cairn roots don’t seem to be the issue, it’s Kaz once she’s broken free of them, she tears through my mythic Shem so easily and then the rest of the team falls apart from their Ogi.

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I’ll try and fix the front line though

final meteor
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@indigo jolt thought I was gonna get eironn out of crystal to transition him to ascended

steel patrol
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@west cairn with Shem opposite Kaz, my Arden lives to almost 2 ults. If Brutus is opposite Kaz, the dodge works but my Arden behind Brutus dies in literally 2 animations — every time. Arden takes a 118k hit and is dead.

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Not really sure what to do, would be nice to have Tasi or another good CC. I’m lacking them at the moment.

outer yew
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Hey guys... I have no idea how to beat this fight, its so hard compared to the others that even when using a mercenary i can't make it (tried using other teamcomps but idk, maybe a fawkes mercenary could help ?)

coral pier
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@outer yew Having a athalia to counter arden could help

outer yew
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shes only elite+ but i can try yeah

coral pier
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The important thing is just to keep the arden roots away as long as possible

calm salmon
#

my shemira get one shot any advise?😂

chilly estuary
sudden meteor
coral pier
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@sudden meteor What team did you try before?

sudden meteor
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fawkes
--lucius
saveas
--rosaline
belinda

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I know there's not too much I can do, my max is 46%

coral pier
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It is a bit problematic since you can't add much damage since your saveas is already at max level and he is most likely all of your dmg

modest smelt
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@chilly estuary Generally I would make Saveas my carry instead of the lightbearer bow girl, until perhaps level 150 when Shemira can take over

sudden meteor
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yeah and I also don't know which chars to ascend thats why only saveas tasi and shemira are L+

chilly estuary
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@modest smelt someone told me to use Saveas after I get him Elite+, and my Gwynth is my Carey rn

modest smelt
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Yes. You really need Saveas L+, but since he is blue it will happen relatively fast. Not in time for the event, surely. @chilly estuary

calm salmon
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whats the best way to counter arden if u dont have athalia

woven lichen
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@sudden meteor you can try estrilda, shemira, saveas, Rosa, belinda

chilly estuary
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So idk wut to rlly do

coral pier
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@calm salmon Eironn can work too or nara

calm salmon
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dont have any of them...

woven lichen
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@calm salmon gwyneth if using dura’s eye. Nemora with charm

calm salmon
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but my team get one shot before nemora can charm him

modest smelt
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@calm salmon Nara works

coral pier
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You could try to use the mercenary system if you are desperate

calm salmon
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ohhhh forgot about that😂

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i need one for ascend for the resonating crystal and im kind stuck there

odd python
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@calm salmon you need to have good boots on nemora to maximise her movement speed (ms) for faster charms

calm salmon
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thats what ms for?

olive thorn
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@sudden meteor just remove the cristal you're not using, that will give you easier shem

sudden meteor
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what do you mean @olive thorn

olive thorn
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if you have less lvl on your cristal, shemira is weakest...

outer yew
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i asked for advice earlier, even tried using a mercenary mythic + athalia to cancel arden isnt working, if u got any other advice

calm salmon
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well thx guys

modest smelt
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@chilly estuary looks like the only hero you can level up to 120 is Hogan, is that correct? If so, try to reduce some of the others and up him to 120.

sudden meteor
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really? I though it would work taking into account my 5 strongest heroes

chilly estuary
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Hogan and Lucius

olive thorn
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i'm not 100% sure since clean shem isn't a problem for my account but I saw this post on reddit, seems legit due to reacts > if you struggle with ice shemira even if with right team comp (lucius / beli / rowan / rosa / lorsan) just read the infobox.

your player combat rating is the sum of every hero combat rating, even the ones present in the resonating crystal.

remove every (unused) hero from the resonating crystal and your total combat rating will lower as well, thus weakening the boss.

edit: worked for me, with shemira Belinda rowan rosa lorsan team was struggling to reach 80%, removed everyone and halved my combat points, reached 100% with 30 seconds left.

modest smelt
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Ah. Not sure which one of those is best at your level. Perhaps Hogan for more damage, but I don't remember

chilly estuary
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I think I should wait for mercenaries

olive thorn
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@outer yew hey mate, can I see all your heroes

chilly estuary
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I could still get loot everyday from guild hunt etc

modest smelt
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@chilly estuary sure. There will be waiting times occasionally.

chilly estuary
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Mhm. Ty for the help

outer yew
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i mean the second i saw this level i knew i was gonna stuck on it so hard, even with mercenaries i can't get it, while just before i had pushed 20 levels in campaign

sacred escarp
olive thorn
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how this one is going

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Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus
Rosa

modest smelt
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@outer yew
Tried using Lyca to be first and then Nemora to charm Arden, or Arden to tie up Arden. I would also chuck in Tasi. Then reroll and reroll, you must have Nemora charming Arden, when she starts charming some other antihero just cancel and restart.

woven lichen
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@sacred escarp do you have Rowan, fawkes, Rosa, or Hendrik? Can try using Arden for charming too

sacred escarp
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not as a legendary no

outer yew
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it doesnt work cuz of the damn silvina, maybe i just need more levels

woven lichen
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@sacred escarp Rowan and Rosa are fine at elite. Potions help a lot. Hogan/Hendrik tanking instead of ulmus would give bigger faction bonus too

sacred escarp
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who am i replacing for rowan/rosa

woven lichen
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@sacred escarp do you have a screenshot of your heroes?

sacred escarp
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let me do that

modest smelt
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@outer yew wouldn't she target Tasi though?

olive thorn
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@outer yew can you take a strong eironn as merc ? He's a really good reply to silvina..

sacred escarp
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i can put things in the crystal, just took the legends out cause apparently the event is harder if you have higher battle and i wasn't using them anyway at that moment

final meteor
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im pretty sure thats not how it works

outer yew
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i mean i tried using the 3 wilders with shem and brutus but they are just so weak

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is nemora's charm really random ? She targeted grezhul like 8 times

olive thorn
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yeah it is, but also blocked by shield

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so when silvina is shielded you can't charm her

modest smelt
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Supposed to be random in the middle

final meteor
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@outer yew try
rowan
shemira
mehira
brutus
lyca

who does silvina target? mehira or rowan

outer yew
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oh ok i finally got a charm on the arden and he did root his allies but i still got rekt idk

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who do i want her to target ? i can put the best gear on mehira or rowan to change it probably

final meteor
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want to target rowan cuz he immunes/dodges for like 3 s

olive thorn
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she will just go on mehira whatever the stuff, ascension gap is to huge

wintry ether
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Need some help on a lineup for ice shem. Yesterday I only managed two keys and I'm determined to do better today!

olive thorn
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if you want to use a merc, try to find an eironn and run as this comp

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Rosa
Rowan
Eironn
Lucius
Tasi

woven lichen
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@sacred escarp can try
Belinda/Rosa/fawkes(?)
-hendrick/estrilda
Rowan
-Lucius
Gwyneth

It is a tougher stage for lb since it is graveborn. Hendrik is nice for stunning and protecting gwyn/Belinda. Rowan’s potions have good healing and his ult allows Belinda/gwyn to go faster so usually always want Rowan and Lucius in lb parties

Alternatively, can try putting Arden instead of Belinda and tasi for ulmus. More crowd control

wintry ether
outer yew
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yeah she targeted mehira and the result was pretty bad

final meteor
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rip, and u dont have the twins? @outer yew

outer yew
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but i don't think my lyca can do anything good tbh shes only elite+ and against this comp the haste buff isnt enough
And no no twins

modest smelt
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You need to see what happens when Nemora charms Arden at least a couple more times though

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In case first one was not so good rng

outer yew
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allright i just asked fro an eironn merc and i'll try tomorrow but imo i just need to get my 5th ascended and shemira to 221+

final meteor
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@outer yew
lyca
shemira
rowan
brutus
tasi

try to make silvina go for tasi. does tasi get 1 shot? need her to tele

worthy island
outer yew
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yeah she gets oneshoted but i mean lvl 200 against 243 not much do to

surreal venture
wind glade
final meteor
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but since your belinda is only E+, replace her

odd python
livid quest
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I'm maxing out on 3 keys, any advice?

odd python
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@final meteor make sure silv is geared enough to get the initial stun on arden, for you i would put thoran frontline to replace my grez and anyone random where i had thoran

pale kettle
olive thorn
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read my pinned message about ice shem, if that can't help you to manage get 100%, feel free to ask again

winter atlas
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Need help with ice Shem, highest I reached was 50%

final meteor
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@odd python thanks it worked; btw what does the letter in front of 301 mean?