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i tried that what you say but i have no chance
hmm could always try swapping around artifacts
Should I sub Brutus anywhere into this lineup?
luc doesn‘t make sence it takes 2 hits and is down
he never ults and makes always 0 dmg
@paper wadi what gear and artifacts do u have on them?
@hollow elm sorry my battery was empty
@paper wadi all good.. honestly only other option would be to use a merc or wait and grind xp
and gear at shem is +18 and bel +10
grind xp doesn‘t help cause after i got luc to 180 i stuck again and can‘t level any hero
sorry in a game of league
I'm kinda bad at this game, any help? I'm @ 11-31
Any advice ln this labyrinth stage?
@split kindle u arnt already winning?
@old ore r u timing fawkes ult with brutus bubble
@split kindle was about to say and u might want hogan for a tank and belinda in the bank bc they r plus
@hollow elm no, that never gets there, always heal
@old ore hmm could try that one artifact that gives spec
@hollow elm nevermind, I'll try this stage in a month
I already have lightbearer team. I need two more teams for challenger tourney any help?
This stage rekts me 😭
Last stage in chapter, been trying to use nemora to charm ferael but still can’t beat it. Any tips?
Can I have pointers PLZ! 23-10
I'm at loss - if I avoid ascended tier as fodder then I can ascend 0 chars today
what if I need 3 fodders, 2 are legendary tier and 3rd is... the same char? Is this an exception
@dark current 24 15
I'll try thanks
@radiant parcel 23 10
Help?
@novel spruce Your team could use some support heroes
@slate thistle want to put your highest leveled 15 as that’s more important than anything for challenger tournament. Beyond that same faction helps due to bonus. Since you don’t have enough crystal spots for all 15... some teams will be stuck with levels 1s... so try to get at least two strong teams
@dark current can try Thoran instead of Brutus for faction bonus. Maybe Nemora in mid back to charm estrilda, Arden or mid back
@tall forge might be too big of a gap due to levels but you can try tasi instead of Lyca for more crowd control... (Thoran for Brutus for faction bonus)
@graceful garden not clear on question. Do you mean to go from legendary to legendary+ or mystic+ to ascended? Those require elite+ of same character so that’s an ok exception to use ascended heroes for ascension.
But you want to use fodder characters for everything else. If you don’t have any available, better to wait. Don’t have to ascend everyday. Avoiding ascension characters helps you save time later on
@pale kettle can try tasi instead of numisu so you get a faction bonus of 3-2.
help pls
already did, I tried loads of stuff, most dont work
@pale kettle might be stuck until ascending or leveling more then. Unlocking 161 for other characters would help a lot or shemira to 181
yep, probably should wait till doing that ig, thanks!
@novel spruce Try Charming Ferael with Nemora in Athalia position.
actually only need 1 brutus / 1 nemora / 1 tasi to get my crystal to 161
@pale kettle 1 lyca too... pretty close
oh yep
Also, would probably drop arden for Tasi/lyca depending on who is banished.
@glacial tartan not a setup I’m familiar with but maybe try...
Nemora
-Brutus
Numisu
-tasi
Tidus
(Nemora charms Arden and tasi banish... has 3-2 faction bonus)
Otherwise can try
Nemora
-Lucius
Belinda
-Gorvo
Tasi
23-10. Any advice appreciated.
@indigo jolt Thank u ❤️
@leaden snow what kind of advice? In general, getting Ferael/nara/Belinda ascended or Rowan mythic would help out
@woven lichen thanks
Help?
@novel spruce can use Nemora to charm Arden... could also try Shemira front and grezhul instead of Brutus/Lucius for mdef
Any recommendations for wrizz/soren with what I have?
mdef?
@forest carbon might be some trial and error but want some faction bonus and dps.... eironn saveas Rowan Lucius Belinda?
@novel spruce grezhul reduces magic damage with his deathly protection skill
Thx I'll try that
Would Arthur help once I get lycra to mythic?? Not sure if I wanna get him now or wait a bit longer considering the deal is up for another 20 days.. only willing to get him now if he would actually benefit my current lineup.. more than likely I'll get stuff to upgrade his signature item between 5 or 10
@inland kite maybe try vurk instead of saveas due to level gap
Try with a faction bonus , for example
Lyca (last resort at 180)
Brutus
Nemora (retry if doesnt charm ferael)
Shemira
Arden
rip i dont think i have enough damage
do you guys have any ideas of what artifacts i can use? i have all of them up to chalices
yeah i legit ran out of time this time
and both lucius's are still up
@inland kite try to get a khasos merc which can throw multiple times. And then
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas/vurk
Skreg/satrana
Safya
I managed to kill thane and estrilda with that, at 160 crystal and brutus 200, with ur level it might be enough
I used Brutus khasos vurk tidus Sophia
i think khasos got a good crit
safiya and khasos ended up getting a crit which killed the shields on lucius and managed to let brutus's last grasp murder them
Trying to figure out a better lineup for guild hunts than the one I’ve been using that only gets ~130M.
@vernal quail
Rosa
-lorsan/estrilda/shemira
Rowan
-Belinda
Twins/shemira
I don't have twins and only have E+ Lorsan that isn't in my crystal right now, but I'll try the rest of that.
Got 197M on my first try. Significant improvement, though not enough to change my rewards at this point. Much appreciated!
Bruh I’m bad but I need help with 5-36
Been using cookie cutter all start team for awhile now , it’s it’s dependable, but I hear it’s gonna fall off soon, what team should I transition to
23-55
@stone geode 23 55
@jade idol help out XD
Ty :>
Lucius and Hogan are dieing pretty early
swap gwen with numisu
hm, revert that then, and try to place gwen on middle
also you can try again swaping them
you will face a lot of rng too
The hypogenean mage is a dangerous glass cannon, yes
@vernal quail try with lorsan on crystal.... it’s a huge boost in damage
So remember that sometimes you will have try with the same formation a lot of times till you get the perfect skill/crits etc
Ok
It'll have to wait a couple of days, but I'm close to unlocking my next crystal slot, so yeah, I'll give Lorsan a shot for it.
@golden musk ideally should swap shemira for Ferael or eironn. Nara is helpful too. If you had Rowan, Rosa, Lucius, fawkes, and Belinda ascended.... that works too
What lineup would you guys suggest for guildhunts?
@strange sparrow Belinda/shemira, Larson, Rosa, Rowan, twins... if Soren, swap in Lucius
So focus heavily on powering belinda/Shemira thx ill try that
ah i dont have twins though who would be best next in lind?
Can put in shemira also then.
Need help for the last chapter 21 level
I’m stuck on 22-59 :(
23-59; edit: nvm beat it
Any suggestions for a lineup?
Help
Still can’t beat this even with nemora. Last stage of chapter 15, what should I do?
Arden(Shem)
Shem(brutus)
Lyca(Arden)
Brutus (lyca)
Nemora(tasi)
Root Arden and kaz and charm ogi or ira @gritty sail
Try
(belinda)
Brutus (luc)
Rosa
Luc(hogan)
Arden(nemora)
Level your Belinda 101+ and root or Charm mirael. You can also mirror the backline and charm ira instead @wheat forum
Try
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shem(lyca)
Lyca(Shem)
Control ankhira or saveas @modern bison
This one has me genuinely stumped any ideas?
Is kaz getting roared the main problem or more the high damage backline in General?
@glossy pagoda Brutus is the main issue because Kaz can kill everyone else relatively easily with RNG, but Brutus has to die before everyone else dies
@shy mesa what up
Who does Fawkes coffin?
Depends if Kaz hits Brutus, then Brutus, else Mirael
Putting Kaz in front of Brutus is a very bad idea imo, his roar cancels her dodge
It doesnt matter because like I said in this stage his roar hits both 1 and 2 positions
Does brutus gets his roar of, befor the coffin hits him? With ur shown linup?
Put Arthur instead of Kaz, try and see if Shem behind him can live long enough to ult
@tired lynx I don't really have gear for Shemira I've never used her
Merc
Maybe kaz on position 3 would avoid the roar, if that has any chance to help
Together with tasi on 1, if she can survive til teleport here
Hello? Can someone help me
I’m stuck at 2-16
And I can’t do anything now
Pls
And I am always short of hero exp
Try
Ira
Kelthur
Eironn
Antandra
Gorvo
There's not much you can do except rng it or reset your heroes and make eironn your carry by overleveling him @gaunt umbra
I can say for sure since idk how long has it been since I play with low level. Maybe atandra and put level 1 niru in her stead and use 3-2 faction bonus
Ok tysm again
Omg it worked tysm
Oops I’m once again stuck
Is there a way to earn gems faster
Can anyone pls help me
I’m at 5-20
@gaunt umbra gems can be earned from progression in tower, campaign, arena, guild bosses, daily quests, tavern board... mainly need to keep progressing and you will get more
For that stage, you have a faction penalty... could try using hogan, mirael, thane, and Belinda instead... could use Angelo for full faction
You may want to go afk and wait for more exp then. Otherwise you would have to reset characters.
Angelo is the blue bard.. level 1 in your screenshot
Well didn’t mean to use Angelo instead of eironn... it was more for if you reset characters over to lb. if you want to stick to wilder party, I would try adding hogan mirael and Thane instead of Kelthur, Niru, and ira... mainly trying to take advantage of lb over mauler
I still lost
Uh is it possible for me to clear stage 19-38 or do i just need to wait for the weekly merc
@gaunt umbra most likely won’t win until other characters are higher leveled... since most of them are level 1 so primarily Gorvo and eironn against maulers... they have a disadvantage against them
@velvet lion I am guessing Rowan, Rosa, fawkes, and Brutus/Lucius doesn’t work? Also no luck with Brutus, Arden, Nemora(charm Arden), tasi/lyca?
I Guess I have to wait till tomorrow to gain more hero exp to level up my heroes
Thx for the advice tho
I dont have a lucius past e but ive been doing rosaline, fawkes/athalia and brutus with rowan and shemira, my wilders are p subpar nemora is sitting at l+ but lyca is e+ and tasi is only e... i could give it a shot tho, do you think it might work?
Oh i just read thhe description i should prob poat the rest of my box, sorry its my first time asking for help
@velvet lion you can try it out... they might die too quickly but if they can root, charm, banish etc quick enough, it should at least give shemira some time to ult
@velvet lion reset until nemo charms arden, then he will root kaz, then its rng
@silent wraith should i use my tasi even though shes only e or should i use l+ arden?
nice pfp btw
if she can survive to ult, E is fine
Alright I'll give it a shot ty
Ayyyy it worked thanks a bunch @silent wraith and @woven lichen
nice :) is a small trick but always works
@velvet lion 
Been stuck on this for about a week, any suggestions?
@tribal bluff Hey! 🙂 Hope your day is going good! ^^
I'd like to suggest;
Tasi
Estrilda
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
You'll win under these conditions :
Arden gets charmed, Arden roots Nemora, Ankhira, and Brutus before he roars.
Make sure Shemira has Call, and Estrilda has dura's eye!
Blade for Nemora (if you have signature item)
Drape for Tasi
Grace for Lyca.
Tips?
Legitimately stuck for 1-3 days per level or so.
Is that standard? If so im 3 years from getting to current content, I’ve gotten different input but no comp has seemed to stick eo Im sorta confused/unsure. At the end of the day im sure more levels etc will eventually brute force everything
I do need help on this stage
@maiden gull ur problem right now is that u ascend too many legendary, as for team comp, im not too sure as im kinda new as well
I get what you're saying, I agree I shouldn't have upgraded thane/fawkes, but the rest I went straight to L+ which is what I was told is reccomended.
@maiden gull Put Lucius and Fawkes at the front
anyone can help me with 21-4?
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Try that and make sure Arden roots Kaz @supple pulsar
@lapis crystal have you tried
nemora
lucius/lyca
tasi/lyca
brutus
saveas
issue is shem gets banished and my backline melts though
@glacial tartan put arden in the crystal and try
tasi
lucius
arden
shemira
nemora
I should rly lvl up Arden and saveas
@glacial tartan Whats your question? 🤐
@glacial tartan saveas is the strongest carry until lvl 160, and arden one of the best supports with 3 roots at lvl 141, so yeah they are pretty good to have
@proven locust try
fawkes
lucius/estrilda
tasi/nemora
brutus
shemira
ulmus and nemora are pain in the same team. also dont make so much L heroes. you are holding yourself back a bit, because you could use the fodder for heroes that you have enough copies to ascend further. only go L when you have the E+ to go L+ straight away
@limpid quail ok will take ur advice
@opal thistle what you can first of all is group teams by factions, to have 4/1 or 3/2. And have at least 1 carry per team
I like having a GB base and also a Wilder base. Then work around that
You could try 4 GB for 1 team, 4 wilders for 1 team, then for the 3rd team put the 3 maulers and then fill with LB ?
Help w/ 22-32?
@oak lance try this
Does haste do anything for you @shy mesa
@opal thistle dont place your strongest team first. this is how most people will attack, put you lowest team first and then raise the bar
@oak lance do you have arden ?
@limpid quail really ? I always look at the 3 teams then place manually every hero vs the 2 lowest teams
@tired lynx yes and no, ive been messing around if I kill Brutus and Warek the turret guy up top messes everything up
@violet igloo yes you do that, but most are too lazy to adjust every time since you cant just move formations from 1 to 3 but have to place every single hero
have you tried swapping Tasi with Fawkes?
@limpid quail I guess it depends if you are like in top 20 or you are gold rank I guess.
@violet igloo yeah i do, i’ll try
@violet igloo sure when you want to be in the top you always have to adjust to have the advantage
would you change anything in that setup?
What's wierd is that @opal thistle is 3rd on her server yet she's asking us lol 
but in lower ranks its "oh he hast a bit lower power i'll just attack"
rank means nothing, i like to evolve by listening to diff opinions
Your setup is pretty goold ! However Rosaline front line? I don't know 😄 lol
f300, any suggestions or should i just merc a thoran
@tired lynx no I suppose I could swap them places but idk if she'll survive the mad sprint
She does but it doesn't help
Why did you merc Fawkes tho, his coffin overlaps with Tasi's banish
My Fawkes was only E+ I was trying to see if he could ult a few times instead of once
To dispel Brutus' gasp?
And wareks shield yes
I think merc Belinda instead of Fawkes will crush them
If this merc Fawkes had call I could use Tasi and he to take two of them out
And if that's the case I'm happy with waiting if I have to since I only need 2 stages to reach my goal of chapter 22 by my summon session. I know if Kaz were 240 I'd also be in a better spot but what can I do
Can someone help with 19-38?
@limpid quail worked perfectly thanks
ok then you can try the comp I sent you. You'll need a few retries.
It doesn't matter, she's there to give haste mostly.
@violet igloo Ira wrecks my Shem
Ira needs to be rooted twice
And Kaz wrecks my Brutus @violet igloo
Done it. Now can you help with 19-40 @violet igloo ?
hehe gj @rare karma
I have to go rn i'll see you later 🙂 i'll give u comp advice (sorry i'm late xD)
@rare karma try
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi/arden
also consider sharing you full hero pool so we know what options we have
@limpid quail
Is it possible to pass it rn?
Its Vurk that’s the problem, as he poisons Shem @limpid quail
Edit: Nvm, Raine poisons me, Silvina is the issue
@rare karma thats why i had nem top to charm vurk so he poisons her allies
@glacial tartan you should overlevel your Shemira, she's your carry. Have ver level 140 and your other heroes level 100
@limpid quail Silvina takes out my nemora before she can charm
tasi/arden should have the lowest defense so she jumps on them
Will upload heroes soon~
Guys does anyone have screenshot of comp for 23-24
Any advice on how to proceed here? Thanks~
@quasi patio use arden instead of belinda you dont need 2 carries
@limpid quail my main problem atm is that my entire lineup melts vs that comp. Is it just just a waiting process to collect more dust before I can progress again?
@quasi patio saveas to 140 will probably give you the edge
@quasi patio you can try
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan/fawkes
You need to snipe the niru first. but that's dependent on whether your lucius can survive or not.. You can try belinda swapping position with lucius.. and hopefully the 20 level difference helps.. Or swap out the whole 3 lights for wilders.. but you lose a lot of damage that way.
@novel adder Thanks managed to luck out and barely win the stage with the fawkes variation 😄
👍
@west cairn isnt that 23-24? if you want to pass it easily.. probably rent a thoran with signature unlocked..
let brutus tank athalia.. put thoran in brut position.. and rng til you can thoran one shot everyone.. or most people with the rest as cleanup crew..
@fleet hawk do you at least have an E brutus somewhere? its precisely situations like these where brutus is useful XD
if you have good lyca gear try lyca dodge tank (with dura's grace and lots of rng)
Tasi
Lyca
Estrilda
Shem
Nemora.
Im assuming tasi banished brutus and nemora charms vurk.
@glacial tartan positioning wise you can improve..
Numisu
Lucius
Tidus/Estrilda
Brutus
Belinda
You want belinda to hit the mini aoe where khasos and kaz congregates. You can drop numisu and tidus for estrilda+shemira as well.
@gaunt umbra try playing with faction bonus since youre running on a few level 1s with minor impact..
something like
Antandra
Eironn
any mauler (preferably ranged)
Brutus
any mauler/wilder preferably ranged.
any mauler will do.. just preferably haha.. coz they will die anyway..
so if ranged they will still do a little bit more.
but it mostly will depend on eironns rng
did you try antandra bot instead of ira ?
@novel adder thanks
???
@modern python Need advice for 24-24 ty
@gaunt umbra Do you not have a single hero in your crystal? I'd use Hogan as tank. Also you should always level 5 heroes manually and put rest in crystal
any help 6-36
10-23 stucked again
Put belinda in middle back, so she focusses ankhira over golus, if that is not enough bring rigby close to 100and reset the wilders to 61
@pale kettle use Saveas instead of shem and replace Athalia with Lyca
I am sorry but i have already tried it and i died
Then try rosaline at crystal with duras call, so shemira gets double ult
Also use rowan then, to buy time
@glossy pagoda please consider to @ people which you are referring to, it makes everbodys life easier. they know they have an answer on their question and others know which questions has already been awnsered 🙂
Thoughts on what my main line up should be? I know I just reset my Es and level my E+s but was going to wait until everyone hit 100 and the cap mattered
@umbral wraith I'd say Brutus Saveas Lyca Arden and Nemora
Saveas
Lucius
Lyca
Hogan
Arden/Nemora
I don't understand what you meant about your E and E+ heroes though
And have Saveas be overleveled compared to your other heroes, he will do MAX DPS
@lofty depot I meant I realise it's best to have your highest ascended levelled and the rest on the crystal but since my main team needed the levels (was using Maulers + Lyca/Arden) I was going to wait until the level 100 cap for Elites became a problem before resetting so I could keep Brutus and Saveas overlevelled
edit: and thank you guys for the lineup help!
my main team is Shemira, Lucius, Rowan, Rosaline and Fawkes... i was able to bump Rowan to 220. should I have lvl'd up Rosaline instead or maybe Belinda?
No 🙂 you don't need too @umbral wraith haha
@austere nova no you are fine like that 🙂 gj on rowan ascended
I guess my qeustion is... the bonus Rowan gets is not as powerful at 201 as Belinda, nor does he do damage. I'm wondering since i'm about to be Ascended capped, unable to get my crystal past 200 right now, should i swap out Rosaline for a 220 Belinda to help with dps?
@austere nova Rosalines provides already quite good dps (in form of tableware and damage boosts)
haha, getting rowan to 220 still gets one shot'd on 22-36... going up against npc's who are in the 258 lvl range... ugh
yep, we've all been there
Hey Guy, its me agay
Need help to unstuck me so i get 3 arden and whole team Goes 160
Mauler tower 88, I've tried giving my best gear to them I can, also already used the mercs
@zenith tusk have you tried wilder backline, requires some good rng though
nemora
shemira
arden
lucius
tasi/lyca
@serene basin mauler can be the slowest tower to climb. Sometimes you just need to arm yourself with patience
@serene basin If you cant have enemy brutus to reach his invul first by manually using ur own ult, u probaply need better levels or a strong merc
@glossy pagoda @violet igloo at what point is saveas no longer useful, or when does vurk take his place, vurk doesn't seem to do anything
@serene basin you have to unlock his sig for him to be really useful. saveas stops doing anything somewhere between 60-80, so at 88 he is useless for you: lvl 160 vs 230
@serene basin about chap 14
The sad part is he still does more damage than many of the others I've tried....
@limpid quail I mean my savaes does basicsally just as much as my Brutus, except that the spider lady stops him
hes the only way i can remotely get the enemy brutus to go invuln first
@serene basin a carry type hero should definitly do more at lvl 200 than your 160 saveas. khasos is really good, did you try to put him top? but is it really that brutus that is wrecking you or do enemy khasos and saveas kill your team first?
its both, both scenerios happen, depending on how i set it up
how do i stop the ankhira from stopping my units with her web
well you are way behind in ascension tiers which has to be taken into account as well. 2 M(+) and 3 E+ vs full ascended
well technicaly i could make my khasos mythic +, i have a spare savaes at L+, but i havent because im so close to also getting enough copies of others to make them ascended straight away
What ascenscion is your shemira ?
thats the mauler problem, they have no reliable interrupt CC like other factions
im doing maulter tower, i dont need my shemira but shes 1 star
oh yeah 
well my mauler tower is like 10-15 levels lower than other towers so I wouldn't sweat it if you can't beat it
im just trying to level it up so i can get the 100 in all armor upgrade stones
you'll just get the rewards, just a bit later. 🙂
Do you buy skreg at lab currently? If yes you could ascend him further, so more tankiness and cc for you
Skreg is really good with his Signature Item
no i dont, but i think im going to finish khasos next i need two copies and then hes ascended, then maybe skreg, who i also think needs two copies
in that case you'll be able to move up the mauler tower easier
i also think im at the point in the game where faction scrolls are hard to come by, im in chapter 22 , so only end of chapter rewards, or events
thats true, but i wouldnt spend them on maulers anyway
@limpid quail thanks, what ended up working for me was
belinda
rosaline
nemora
rowan
lucius
@limpid quail but skreg is the next closet shop hero past the khasos
@serene basin but the overall pool is better in other factions, thats why i wouldnt spend faction scrolls on maulers
it just that im so close to having the skreg in theory, every thing else needs like 3 or 5 or 6
i jsut need so many copies of the other store heros
well i acutally just rng'd the floor 88, now on to 89@limpid quail
Stuck for a week now 24-24
@serene basin nice, congrats. as i said i personally dont focus on maulers and just let them come naturally, the only thing i did was going for my last brutus in an event
yeah i just need one more brutus to make him ascended, and its not like i tried to get maulers, they just came to me
Hey try removing all the other heroes from ur wishlist it works only put Brutus
Trust me I got Brutus on my third single summon
@serene basin
@willow spruce try Shemira, Grzehul, Lucius, Rosaline, Nara (merc)
if im not wrong, that doesnt work that way...@gaunt umbra
are they right?@limpid quail
@serene basin but I got it on my third try
i just looked this up, and it says thats not how it works
@gaunt umbra you musta got really lucky
@gaunt umbra lucky you. wishlist works best when all slots are filled
Oh lol ok that’s new thx guys
Can someone suggest the best 3 teams I can make for Challenger using the below image? 🙂 That or two really strong teams and the third team can be weaker.
Well I would go for 2 strong teams :
Shemira Grezhul Tasi Eiron Athalia
Khasos Lucius Rowan Belinda Fawkes
@idle oriole does tasi instead of Arden help? Banish shemira and sleep with ult.
Will try it
@white birch you should have Shemira level 200 and other heroes level 160-180. She must be overleveled as she is your carry
Oh wait I'm a doofus, you can't because you need her M+
You can give your Saveas L+ to your Brutus 🙂 and level him up. Comp wise, you can try Brutus, Lucius, Tasi, Lyca, Kaz maybe
Is it possible?
@velvet grail are you close? I would move Rowan to middle back so potions can reach hogan.
Try mehira for 30% def boost as well
Try swapping Tasi with Ferael maybe ? Also you could try putting in Arden maybe @velvet grail
Sometimes its close also i can ascend higan to l+ but idk if its worth
@velvet grail hogan to L+ is a safe move. He is already L so can’t fodder him to someone else until L+ anyways
You can put your Hogan to L+, he won't go any further since you already have a spare E+ copy. Hogan is not that bad for a tank early game
Been stuck on chapter 16 for a little over a week, any advice on hero line up? The first 5 are the ones I normally run with
how are u stuck on 16 with those many M heroes?
Dude it’s driving me crazy
I have Shemira m+ and I rush through that shit easy
Up to here easy breezy but hit 16-16 and can’t get past
@robust cape Try leveling your shemira to the max possible (180 it seems) then leveling other heroes and you can try Ulmus Estrilda, Nemora Shemira Lyca
your shemira must always be overleveled compared to your other heroes. Like she's level 200 other heroes are level 160-170
Shemira, Brutus, Belinda, Lucius and Rosalina
All I need for now
Tho Im "stuck" at 16-16 cuz I want that mythic gear yo
Any idea?
LBs the key xD
@honest storm Yes. Put Shemira in Tasis spot so she gets ult faster. Then switch Tasi/Arden for Lyca
Helped, thanks @winter matrix🇨
Who would synergize best as a soren team??
@teal hinge IMO shemira, rosa,rowan,lucius and lorsen
Please help:
@hasty fjord try Nemora instead of fawkes to charm Arden. Having both tasi and fawkes doesn’t always work either since usually only one of them banishes or coffins. Could put Lyca for Raine for faction bonus too... potentially could reset Fawkes and Raine to push shemira to 240 too
I know shemira would be helpful higher level, but I dont really want to spend the diamonds right now to reset. Unless you think it is a needed change.
@hasty fjord you can try without. It usually makes it easier for shemira to tank and her ult kills faster.
Having Shemira at 240 is a massive massive boost over having her at 220.
I guess I will try leveling her to 240 and take raine and fawkes down.
What about artifact placement?
Shemira gets blade
Shemira pretty much always gets either blade or call. Depends on how fast you need to get the ult out. Some fights you might need to get it out a couple seconds earlier to avoid a CC.
What about everyone else? Or it doesnt Matter so much?
@hasty fjord if using tasi, she gets call. The rest is more about survivability and delaying until shemira can ult. This changes later on when shemira is no longer your main carry (after everyone else is at L240)
When does shemira fall off? And who replaces her as the main carry?
Shemira falls off around chapter 23/24. There are multiple replacements. Belinda. Farael. Eironn. Athalia.
Thanks for the heads up
This lineup helped me beat that wall. Thanks again for the help.
@hasty fjord nice job 👍
Shemira not 240?
Best the chapter. Also, shemira was at 240 but somehow it says 220... I am confused.
And my fawkes reset to 160 for some reason. He was at 200
Visual bug.
Is there a person I should be shooting for to level up and power up my team more? I was hunting lucius but that is a challenge. Lol.
@hasty fjord probably a tank at a high level... Thoran can work since resurrects and faction bonus with shemira. Ascending tasi, Lyca, and Nemora is good too... if you ever manage to get more Lucius and Belinda though... then can swap over to lb setup too... Lucius, Rowan, Rosa, Belinda, fawkes
I will hunt lightsborn for now then. I really want lucius as my main tank. I have enough memory to ascend her once I get 2 more purple fodder since I have 4 copies of her purple+ already. Thank you so very much @woven lichen . You have no idea how appreciative I am for your help!
@quiet falcon try
shem
lucius
rowan
brutus
athalia
should be a breeze for you with crystal at 240 for the rest of the chap, just spam those disablers cos ur shem looks pretty busted
shes quite good yeah 😛 2 faction gear on her + 30 signature item struggeling on the last stage now tho
@upbeat moat need ur whale butt to help me ❤️
@quiet falcon could try this
sorted it was quite lucky 😛
Poor Nemora in front line lol. Have u tried Lucius? U also might need to try until she charms Ferael, 🤔
any suggestions?
Some help plz
@ivory breach you have it easy bro. it used to be four lucius'.
if it's really that tough to beat, rent a merc. i beat it with an A Khasos with like +20 sig, but he doesn't have to be that powerful.
i have my khasos at M+ +1 but not enough i guess
@teal hinge can you post your full roster?
@ivory breach do you have Numisu or Atandra?
Is a 141 L+ Thane better than a 140 L Saveas?
only at like E
@proper ether no. Thane is considered to be a mediocre hero.
Oh sad
@ivory breach Antandra can take a hit pretty well and Numisu is good for healing
Can i beat 22-56 without an Arden? (nvm, just did with this formation. Leaving it here in case someone else searches for 22-56).
@teal hinge use your Nara to interrupt Silvina's jump
Any help please?
Ok
@knotty bough
Arden
Hogan
Saveas
Grez
Lyca
Didn’t work unfortunately
you should get a Tasi.
and be more specific with what didnt work
how can i contact support
Who’s tasi?
the Wilder fairy.
Ok hopefully I can get her in packs. Niru is always the last one standing.
you need to CC the fuck out of him
Who else do I use beside Arden to CC him? Shemira?
@silver leaf you can contact support in game by clicking on your profile picture then going to "support"
You can also send a message to member called AFK Arena CS (I won't ping him on purpose) you can see him/her in the member list 🙂
@knotty bough Shem isn't really CC, you could try to get Nem to charm him
Rosa
Shem
Nem
. Lucius
Arden
if Rosa dies too fast to be a useful support, put in Fawkes. @graceful mountain
How many extra copies of Brutus do you have ?
@graceful mountain get Lyca when you can.
put Tasi on crystal. she's a very useful CC hero.
Help plz
those L's 
Yeah ik
wheres your Shem?
Ew
@graceful mountain i 'd try
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Lucius
Tasi
@drifting nymph
Can u help or not? I don't use shemira
@pale kettle
@drifting nymph who is your carry ? Looks like it's belinda
Yes
Ok. It seems that you have used a lot of fodder to ascend heroes from E+ to L. This was not absolutely necessary (it's not useless in the long run though, so no need to worry 🙂 ). Ideally you want to try and use at least 3 heroes from same factions and if possible highest ascension that you have. It's true that Shemira is a good carry at your level, but people also use Belinda. Belinda + Lucius + Rowan is your core. You can add Tasi and Nemora (you can buy Nemora through Lab). Try and only ascend heroes that you use in campaign, the others can patiently wait 🙂
I ascended all those legendaries pretty early in the game
I've known for a while that it wasn't necessary
Having a lot of trouble on this fight 8-40 any ideas?
Yes I can see that 🙂 it's not really a problem though tbh
So can I have some help with the stage?
Did you read the end of my message ? : D
So both tasi and nemora?
@hushed gyro well I'd say that you need to ascend your Saveas as soon as you can so that you can overlevel him compared to your other heroes.
Also put your Brutus instead of Mehira he can hold longer vs ennemy Brutus + get the 3faction bonus
There is a 3 faction bonus oh didnt know that
Dang still getting crushed need to ascend sav
@hushed gyro click on the mark on top left corner 😉 where you see purple right now
Try This :
Numisu
Brutus
Arden
Hogan
Saveas
Yeah still got crushed silvana just like 2 shots arden
ah yes, she's annoying. Can't use arden in those fights (yet) Silvana always TPs to the weakest mage on your team
if you only have shemira in that team, then she'll jump on her, you can try that. This is why having multiple heroes is so good in this game
you dont have a rowan + rosaline?
Highest I’ve gotten :/
and e+ row
use lucius, rosa, shemira, belinda rowan
Could use some help too with my ice shem team x]
so right now ros+ rowan best team
Tried belinda instead of estrilda and I get pretty much the same
So my max is still 85% with shem lucius belinda Rowan Rosaline :/
i tryed with shem lucius belinda fawkes Rosaline and got 85 aswell
fawkes ult can be usefull if u dont go auto, since it take of the debuff
i gave call to rowan and eye to rosa
Have the same
Lol the 40 fodder is actually very tempting
@stone geode Use Lorsan instead of Shem.
My belinda is only L+ tho lol
oh instead of Bel then, maybe.
I’ll try
Any suggestions on how to get the last 9% for 5 keys? Can reliably hit 91% but can't push through it.
@eager jay have u tried putting 2nd best gear + eye on rosa, 3rd best gear + call on rowan
What comp would be best against ice shemira
Yes, I've swapped things around a bit too. Doesn't seem to matter. I max out at 91
hmm thats weird, i have 200 crystal , L+ lucius and M+ belinda and it worked
Help me with a lineup for fighting ice shem plz
This is my selection.
By swapping Safiya with Vurk, it can reliably get me three keys, but no more than that.
Vurk is currently the only unit who Rosaline will follow over Estrilda. Otherwise, I have to swap Estrilda out for someone else.
Are you able to get shem to 240? She'd help the most as damage carry probably though Belinda could also maybe work
Even without Rosaline following them, or do I need to reset Estrilda?
If you swap around gear a bit with lower tiers on estrilda you should be able to get Rosa to follow Bel/Shem, otherwise the lineup is fine though you could consider lucius over twins.
Err, reset Numisu I'd say
OK. I need him to not die horribly in labyrinth runs, though, so I'll have to level him back every two days.
mh, you can just have him at 220 in crystal I think? with Shem carry it should be fine I'd think
I Vurk carry in labyrinth since I have his SI pretty much maxed out, though it's less an issue of him dying and more an issue of the rest of the team not getting enough healing so Shemira won't fare much better in that regard.
Thank you for the advice. I'll try doing a labyrinth run with a lower levelled Numisu and see how it goes.
I'll say though, Shemira will work frontline so removes pressure from your roster to survive for her to do her thing if that's an issue
Rosa - Rowan - some LB - Grezhul - Shemira perhaps
Yeah, she's very useful. I use her as my carry on my alternate account, but my main account's for favourites.
As for Ice Shemira, I've been using Rosaline (legendary+), Rowan (elite+), (damage), Estrilda (ascended 1*), and Elijah and Lailah (elite). Would that be good, or is Grezhul better than Estrilda?
Hm... surviving with a lower levelled Numisu takes quite a lot more effort, but it's doable. I'll get to levelling Shemira.
Estrilda would generally be better due to the energy regen to help your team spam more ults. It'd help with a good DPS source like Bel or Shem but otherwise:
Carry - Estrilda - Rosaline - Rowan - Twins/Lucius should be able to get you 100%
Got it! Just to be sure, the list of units is from top to bottom, right?
What artifacts would be best on them? I think Blade for the carry and Eye for Estrilda are good, but I'm not sure about the others.
That's be the order too yeah 😅
Blade - Shem
Eye - Rosa
Call - Rowan
Grace - Estrilda
XX - XX
I''d say though
Anything goes for the twins? Alright, got it.
Thanks again for all the help!
this lineup works alright, blade shem, eye rosa, call rowan, chalice estrilda, drape twins
Anything goes yeah because you can't heal anyways
I guess drape would be fine for the defense
Please help, I got 3 keys with alternate accounts but my main can only get 1
Lucius, Shemira, Belinda, Rosaline, and... huh, can't decide on a good fifth for you.
Maybe Lyca? 🤔 she debuffs enemy def with each attack.
Put your twins in crystal and use them too
Oh, I don't see twins. It must be one of those celestials at the bottom?
Yeah, definitely use twins.
You can see their headwear protruding on the bottom frame
My eyesight isn't the best all the time, haha.
But yeah, easy 5 keys with that setup.
Yeah, get twins in.
So the first four I said + twins. Probably your best bet unless anyone has a better idea.
Rowan over Lucius/Belinda would be a possibility, otherwise nothing really
Looking for suggestions for event on this account. Have 9 more accounts with different heroes to try, if you guys want to see what team comp can do what, let me know
Oh, I didn't see Rowan, haha.
But yeah if you have Rowan, he's also good. I'd probably take Rosaline just cuz she'll bulk up Shemira harder, whereas Rowan is more team-oriented.
Sorry but isn't Rosaline will buff up the highest character. She buffs luscious in my play
You can move around gear so lucius has lower combat rating than shemira
Oh, dang. That sucks. Yeah, probably that extra star...
You COULD try maybe nerfing Lucius' gear just a bit?
The extra pump from Rosaline can really put Shem over the top.
Great thanks guys. I will do that.
@split prairie
Shemira - Rosaline - Rowan - Estrilda - Belinda maybe
Well, I ended up with 2 keys, which is still worse than the Vurk team.
I can't be the only one getting fking annihilated at like 40 percent
@odd python Thanks for the lineup, its worked!
🤔 Did you get shem to level 240? But maybe try move around gear and so and see? I think it should be doable with some okay RNG and so @pale kettle
Yes, Shemira is level 240.
Here's what I've got, what it's the meta from my pile of turds for the event Shemira
Hmm, I'd think you should be able to get 5 keys then unless Rosa still follows Estrilda 
If it matters, Shemira's SI is only +10.
It shouldn't much, +10 vs +20 shouldn't be 60% different
@midnight coral Shemira - Estrilda - Twins - Rowan - Lucius/Belinda maybe
I need some help. Shem, Bel, Rosa, Rowan, Estrilda got me to 90%, but I cant find the lacking 10%
Oh, what about artifact levels? How high do they need to be?
@cerulean hamlet 48.1% with that comp in order given gonna try to swap some mercs around
level 2 or so on all should be okay? Most people only have them around 2-3 anyhow
Alright, I managed to hit 83.8% after gear moving.
I think that's as good as it gets for me, since the difficulty of my Ice Shemira is probably adjusted to my 3* Vurk instead of my Shemira.
Do u guys put grace or chalice on lucius?
@celest mango np 🙂
Chalice for HP + def
Need suggestions, don't know if I just need to afk and level up, but hypo mages cause most units to flinch or just outright kill in Rowan's case
Need team setup for Event Shemira ty
I can't get more then two keys on ice Shem
Actually, nevermind. I did it.
I appreciate all the help.
How?
@ember bane try shemira,rowan,rosa,twins& lorsen, just make sure to give them best possible gear and a artifact worked for me hope it can help u.
Anyone wanna help me? I'm stuck at 60%
@onyx blaze i don't have twins
try raine maybe
@ember bane try estrilda or raine both buffers could mby work
@flat gyro do you have a lorsan, that you can field instead of numisu?
@glossy pagoda I have a basic elite of him.
Thanks yeti 🙂 ended up trying Rowan instead of num and it worked out.
Didn't think of replacing numi because of his healing, I was worried I needed it
@rich snow thanks. With gear replacement, I managed to get 3 keys.
how should i fight against her?
What should my ice shemira team be? I can get to 52.5 with this line up
This team gives me 3star only done many trials any advice ty @cerulean hamlet
Ice shem team? I got 3 with shem, bel, lucius, rosaline, hendrik
Also messed up and didn’t realize i could retry
@ember bane swap lucius for estrilda?
So many Ice Shemira questions... And then there’s me... Random pleb stuck on Wilder 140.
@woven nimbus just destroyed that stage with Eironn, just merch an ascended eironn n ure good
@ember bane do not put dps or hard carry front line
Still can't get 5keys need advice ty @sleek portal
@ember bane swap lucius out for twins, ascension doesnt matter
@ember bane also use lorsan instead of shemira/belinda depending on who's your carry
Can someone help me with team comp on this stage cause I've been stuck for like a week and don't know what to do
@proper ether saveas, Rowan, thane, estrilda, Belinda? ... could also try eironn, estrilda, Nemora, saveas, lyca.... guild boss parties seem to work out well
@sleek portal I don't have twins so what to use
@devout roost swap athalia and Nemora... Nemora charms Arden. Could also try resetting athalia and grezhul to see if you can get shemira to 240. If possible Brutus might be a better tank than grezhul since faction advantage
Athalia is a Merc. Not my own
If I had a few more diamonds (just spent them on a summon) I could reset Estrilda and Grezhul
Thx for the advice
@devout roost I get the feeling I saw this stage in lineup help earlier today too...
Shemira
-lyca
Tasi
-Brutus
Nemora
Or something similar to that... once Arden roots kaz, then up to rng
@woven lichen any advice for Event Shemira I don't have twins
@ember bane what heroes do you have? Generally Soren/wrizz setups work well.... lorsan, Rosa, Rowan, shemira/Belinda, estrilda/Lucius
@woven lichen thank you! Do you have any advice for what I should use through the campaign? I'm stuck on 10-2 atm
@proper ether hmmm you could try saveas, Brutus, Lyca, tasi, and Nemora... ideally should get a L+ Arden as he helps a lot. (This gives a 3-2 faction bonus)
Hey Who to use for ice shem event
KT 297
@woven lichen ah okay thank you that's what I was using except I used gorvo instead of brutus. Who would an L+ Arden replace?
@worn swan hmmm Arden and saveas at L+ would help... but guessing you are running a graveborn setup of Baden shemira Kelthur nara and grezhul?
@gleaming flax try shemira Rowan Rosa estrilda lucius.... can’t see if you have lorsan and twins... if so they are good too
@woven lichen yes
@proper ether ah Gorvo works too since 4 of same faction. That’s a good setup also. Arden can replace Nemora or tasi... mostly for more crowd control... may have to play around a bit
@worn swan it’s good for the faction bonus but might be hard to progress later due to lack of fodder or elite heroes... single faction this early might require pulling a lot more to avoid level caps. At this stage of the game, better to ascend 1 hero of each faction and an extra one in the faction with the most fodder
@woven lichen so should I go a different route?
@woven nimbus your lucius have time to ult on this setup?
@worn swan if it works for you, I would keep it for now. But just try to focus on ascending a single graveborn for now. Shemira is popular since available in the shop. Other ones can be more due to luck... and a lot of fodder needed to reach ascended stage. At the same time, pick one hero in each faction to ascend such as Nemora, Khasos, estrilda, etc all shop heroes or any one that you end up having lots of copies of
hmm this team scaling with ice shemira , any tips 253lvl after many tries maximum i achieved 67%
@woven nimbus
@maiden patrol I would replace Belinda/shemira with lorsan... only one carry. Twins if available are nice too
Make Ros follow Belinda and replace shem with lorsan or twins @maiden patrol
Try
Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Luc
Twins/lorsan
Play around with Rowan Rosa twins luc lorsan as support usually will net you 5 keys with maybe a lil bit difficulty @sharp flame
@still oar amazing thanks
I get 3 keys with lb + shem but preferably wanting 4-5 ;/ any suggestions?
@idle oriole shemira Lucius Rowan Rosa twins?
I used estrilda instead of twins and Belinda also works too
Thx guys 👌
@still oar for reward I should aim.for the 15 scrolls right?
@sharp flame best rewards seem to be scrolls, elite hero (Rowan, eironn, twins, mehira), or red emblems
Best ice shem lineup, i want 5 keys pls
Asking too. Suggestions on team for ice Shemira.
@scarlet agate @old ore use Shemira Lucius twins Rosa Lorsan Belinda/rowan
@ember bane that's 6 heroes...
I got 77% this is way too hard. Could you tell me relics too?
Dont have Lorsan or Rosa :(
@woven lichen isn’t fodder pretty good?
@woven lichen i could only reach till 4 keys any advice ty Also tries Lorsan don't have twins
Getting rekt
KT 297
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@ember bane @gaunt umbra Hi, please move to direct messages if you'd like to continue discussing. This is specifically for lineup help and having a fullblown discussion here spams the channel. Thank you!
What’s my best bet for the ice Shemira
I can also make Shemira lv 161 M+ if I spend 4.8k lab coins rn
Try with
Rosa
Belinda(Shem)
Rowan
Luc
Lorsan
Try with Belinda first if you can get to 90% or more you should be able to 100% it and if you somehow have twins they will work wonder helping Shem @harsh solstice
Ok thanks!
@still oar just wanted to thank you again cuz that setup got me to 100% while my main teams struggled to hit 70%. Not what I expected 🙂
@still oar any help for me with ice shem?
Try
Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Grezhul (lucius)
Twins
With Shem it'll be longer fight since you can't burst ice probably will end up with 95+ and a time out which you just need to rng it to achieve 100%.
If your damage isn't enough you can also try lorsan in place of grezhul or luc. If you don't have enough def and die too fast try
Shem
Grezhul
Rowan
Luc
Rosa/twins @sleek stone
@still oar for me plz ice Shemira
I can only make till 95% don't have twins
Try the Shem comp above @ember bane. The one with grezhul and replace twins with lorsan, luc or estrilda depends on do you need more sustainability or damege.
@still oar Lucius 85%
Estrilda/Grezhul 50%
Do i need some change in artifacts
u have call on rowan and eye for rosaline? @ember bane
@final meteor i use call on Rosa eye on rowan
Blade on Shem, call either on Rosa, Rowan or Lucius
Try
Shem
Grezhul
Rowan
Luc
Rosa and make sure Rosa follows Shem @ember bane
Idk if you can replace lorsan(grace) with Raine.
Did all of your team live until around 95%?
i had
rosaline(L eye)
shemira(A 2* blade)
rowan (L+ call)
lucius(L+ drape)
belinda(M+ conviction)
@still oar Lorsan then rowan then hardly Lucius rosa n shem survive 5% health
although 200 crystal and 240 shemira might have changed things
need help for ice shem
got 4 keys with
bel
luc
rowan
shem
rosa
My LB are mostly E+ may be that's why lacking little
If your team alive at around 95% then you should be able to rng it
@ember bane try call on rowan? to give lucius more ults for more survivability
Do you have twins or lorsan hidden down there @paper wadi?
yes i have lorsan but only E @still oar
It's okay. Try put your best gears and blade on belinda and try
Rosa
Belinda
Rowan
Luc
Lorsan (Grace)
Call could be on luc, Rosa or rowan. You gotta keep lorsan alive as long as possible @paper wadi
ok i‘ll try thank you
@still oar @final meteor plz check let me know ty
Made it 100% Thanks alot @still oar
gratz. Now you know your comp hehe
@short mural 

Did you have a question @short mural ? 
Looking for advice @vale wasp ? 
yes, I actually started to ask a question in #classic-questions but it makes more sense to continue here 🙂
Ooh you can ascend your Nemora that's nice.
I don't have Rowan and I was wondering if Ice Shemira is still doable without it. A lot of suggestions include Rowan. Am I screwed ? 😄
No you are not. If you have twins and rosaline it's possible
If you have more ferael you can put him to L and L+ you're gonna need him later
This might be a reach but you can try Shemira Lucius Baden Lorsan Rosa if you don't have twins...
I need some fodders to ascend Nemora but that's the plan yes.
Unfortunately I don't have twins. :(
I don't have enough Ferael but it will come eventually (or not :p)
Actually you can try : Shemira Lucius, Belinda Rosa Baden
that way Belinda buffs Shemira and you get the faction bonus. Try that and see how it goes. Honestly I wouldn't count on getting 5 keys, if you get 2 or more that's already not bad at all. And don't hesitate to try multiple times, there's a restart button at the end
Just pushed to 93% (4keys) with
Shem
Rosa
Estrilda
Lucius
Belinda
I will try with some gear/artifacts adjustments 🙂 thanks for the advices
Make sure to put Dura's Call on Rosa and Blade on Shemira.
How the hell is Floor 219 fair?
Is the healing the main problem there? If yes a ferael merc might help. Or maybe even suiciding a satrana for the healreduction.
@rare karma haha, there are many levels that are worse later : ) You need to be able to output lots of damage with your Shemira to kill 1 or 2 Ulmus before they all start ulting and healing
@rare karma once you get enough copies of Shemira to ascened her to 240, you can dump all your ressources into her to have her overleved and you'll see she'll clear easy.
So ive atempted this Ice shemira thing for about an hour or two now but i cant find a way ro break past 88%, this is what got me furthest, any sugestions?
Try Rowan instead of Thoran.
Estrilda should be better, rowans potions are disabled anyways
Tywm @glossy pagoda estrilda did 100% once i gave her gear from brutus :D
Yeah Estrilda is also OP, she gives energies and makes Shemira do less damage. Gratz on 100%
@violet igloo the only way to guarantee a Shem is by Lab store?
any Khasos experts out there? 24-9, mercs available
@rare karma Well if you put her in tavern wishlist you can also have better chance to open her too
@cyan pendant have you tried mercerany Skregg frontline instead and put Lyca behind ?
if khasos is backline, he has highest atk and will get banished
Yep. Or just replace Lycas with Skregg. If you have a friend with a PHAT skregg you should try
khasos can interrupt tasi on a crit but he'd be in an awful position at 5.. can't see getting around having him at 4 hitting all enemies if tasi blinks favorably
Well you're going to have to retry a few times at least, that's part of the game hehe
I might just be getting outmuscled by level at this point ☹
Patience is part of the game too : ) but have you tried with Skregg ??? 
I'll see if I can get a merc, haven't ever used him
he's a beast you'll see
Generalities for building a comp against Ice shemira :
Shemira is scaling in term of damage so your objective will be to shutdown her as fast as possible. You will need to play a strong dps hero (Belinda, shemira for exemple) and play support who will increase this dps (twins, lorsan,estrilda,raine...).
If you need survivability, shemira also cancel heal so there is no point to play heal heroes like nemora or Rowan (Rowan with his signature activated can be played for mana energy boost) . You can play around Lucius for his shields, or grezhul for give magic resist to all your team.
You can also remove on your cristal your non used heroes, that will get your shem weakest since his stat is calculated on your total attack rate, decrease your power will decrease Shemira power as well.
Exemple for a final comp :
Rosa
Shemira
Lucius
Lorsan
Twins
Feel free to ask for specific boxes.
I thought you could still heal during the heavy snow
Help i cant get past 60% no matter what
Even not with shemira twins lorsan rosa Lucius?
Yup, everyone just dies in the first snowstorm
Maybe Estrildas damage reduction over twins then
60% max
Need help for comp against ice shemira
@fleet hawk do you have twins ? (celestial)
@fleet hawk I'd try Shemira Estrilda Rowan Rosa + Lorsan/twins
@violet igloo nope, no twins. can you give an exact layout of the heroes you mentioned? thanks
Need desperate help, please help me with comp/positions/artifacts , thanks in advance guys ❤️ (Ice Shemira event)
Well seems like your comp is
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Tasi needs Dura's call, Lyca grace, Brutus eye, Shemira Blade, and Nemora Calice or Drape
So I would try
Rosa
Shemira
Twins
Estrilda
Belinda
Shemira blade, twins call, rosa calice, estrilda drape or grace, belinda eye
Suggestions? They stun my lucius and it goes poo
@autumn carbonWhat's up with your Crystal? 
Fill up some slots! you have so many level 1s!
you can also reset Lyca lol
What lineup would you guys recommend for Soren? I keep waffling between LB cause they are my strongest and wilder cause of the faction bonus (plus shemira of course)
Hmm you can try
Estrilda/Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
thats been my go-to comp for pretty much everything lately. just wasn't sure if the extra damage i take from soren puts all those LB at a disadvantage
no, not really. That's really the best comp you can do tbh @worldly shale
Some help on ice shem plz? I only get up to 70% with this comp
@violet igloo thanks for the help, 100% achieved !!
gratz 🙂 feel free to ask more questions if needed we're here to help
I really don't get it, the only relyable hero to get this event done is the twins?
This is why u get many heroes to ascended first rather than prioritizing stars. U end up with limited choices for events like ths
@sonic egret replace arthur and lucius with lyca ans tasi, put shemira in front of ennemy lucius. Try that, have have Shemira ult then lyca then tasi in ult animation of Shemira
Somebody any idea how to beat this?
Rowan gets killed asap. Shemira always not enough MP to get her ult fast enough on any Position.
@ocean night try and place at least 3 of same faction to get faction bonus (click top left icon in corner). Have you tried replacing Rowan with your L+ Lyca ?
Any lineup suggestions for ice Shemira? Not doing too great against her...
@modest sail try shemira,rosa,twins,rowan & lorsen/lucis/mehira/grez just dont forget to give them ur best poss gear + artifact.
I'll give it a shot, thanks @onyx blaze
16-40, any ideas? Thanks!
So 25-26 is frustrating. Tips please without including merc Arthur
I'm struggling super hard to get more than 1 key from ice shemira. Dont mind releveling a few people if it could mean more keys during this event
Almost won with this lineup, any ideas how to actually win?
@lapis oar Try putting Belinda backline and putting Nara in front of Brutus. If Nara can survive and ult Brutus it should be gg
Are there any comps that got 5 keys from the ice event without rosa or rowan?
@shrewd badger if you have twins and estrilda it's doable, there are other comps that exist.
Lorsan is maybe just as good as rosaline, rowan cant hold a candle to those two(maybe with his si, lowascanded rowan is even worse then Estrilda for this)
all of my units are roughly lvl 140 so no si. Looks like I'll be taking 1 key this event each day cause i never got a twin lol
No lorsan either?
I've got lorsan. What do you think the lineup should be?
I've got 2 open spots in the resonator crystal + i can relevel some people as well
Saveas is probaply to stifled by the no heal rule for this fight, so shemira carry probaply the way to go. Id try
Shemira
Lucius
Belinda
Fawkes
Lorsan
First
If u have estrilda shes probaply more useful then fawkes
Estrilida is only elite so would he still be worth?
Its worth a try
16-40. My lineup is all dead within around 17 seconds, need some help. Anyone have any guidance? Thanks heaps.
As last resort you can try resetting saveas for 140 crystal and try kaz or silvina in shemiras carry position. I have an alt with slightly higher level and
Rosaline
Silvina
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda got me to 100%. the team had everyone at level 147 and rowan was basically dead weight, since his ult didnt even reach silvina
@pale kettle did you try nemora, lyca, arden backline (top to bottom). the lineup requires good rng and nemora has to charm ferael
@limpid quail no, because i haven't got arden ;-;
not even E?
you can try the R, he only has to root, need to put him in the crystal though
on lvl1 he wont do anything of course because the skills arent unlocked
also on mid position?
ah no i didn't try mid :)
.< @violet igloo didn’t work
@limpid quail instant kill in all position
he does absolute nothing
another comp please :(
@pale kettle if he doesnt get roots of once he is useless in the fight cant use him then. tasi banished ferael right? then she is no option either cause he has to be charmed. you can try lorsan or gorvo mid or bottom backline if they work
🤔
@lapis oar if you're almost winning with your first comp, keep trying you'll get there 🙂
@limpid quail Stop. Doesn't work. Another compo other than wilder trio please :(
Which three teams for challenger arena please?
Hmmm okay then
@violet igloo Your build lineup helped me get 3 keys which is significantly better than 1 so thank you 🙂
@shrewd badger There's a reddit post on r/afkarena about your problem, try checking that out?
@shrewd badger you're welcome. Hopefully when you level up during the event you might push to 4 keys 😄
@west cairn the fodder can be good since 40 fodder or equivalent to 3+ elites... but you will generally still be blocked by needing ascended heroes... need 8 copies of the ascended heroes to reach max level. You will get the fodder as you keep pulling while a Rowan or etc might remain elusive
whats best lineup/top 5 heroes for ice shemira
@livid terrace there is a pinned message on it but generally high dps and shielding... similar to soren
@pale kettle Hey, I'll run something like this...
Tasi
Brutus
Khasos
Lyca
Nemora
Ferael
Ezizh
Shemira
Thoran
Mehira
Belinda
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Fawkes
Help please
@gritty sail you can try to place nemora behind Shemira so that Shemira can survive a bit longer, she can charm golus. Alternatively, you can reset Brutus, put him to 180 and pump the remaining ressources into your Shemira so that she can be overleveled compared to your team, that's how she works best
Thanks @violet igloo
@gritty sail did it work ? 
Not yet. Gonna reset brutus.
Hi guys could I get help with my ice shem line up
@meager aspen Try Shemira - Grezhul - Rosaline - Estrilda - Fawkes (Do you have a Rowan? and/or twins)
@cerulean hamlet not rlly i dont have those 2 heroes. Should i lke equip them with the high equipments ? Would it be more effective?
Stuck at 13-36 if anyone wants to help me with my lineup. Current squad is Belinda, shemira, Rowan, Lucius, and thoran.
Im stuck there too 
@random seal @pale kettle idea is to stop Arden with nara or Nemora charm. And then boost energy for shemira. Mehira helps to haste everyone
any ideas on what comp i should try and build post 160 when i need to replace Saveas as my carry?
who should i try and build as a carry, and what who around them as a whole?
@woven lichen thanks 🙌
@glacial tartan Rowan, Rosa would help but with what you have shown, can try shemira, Belinda, Lucius, estrilda, and gwyn
@graceful mountain the most popular one past L160 is shemira with tasi, lyca, Nemora/Arden, and Brutus/Lucius... or shemira with Lucius/Brutus, Rowan, Rosa, fawkes... but if you don’t have shemira, can try an overleveled Brutus eironn Belinda
@woven lichen I know right, but I have no luck lol
@woven lichen problem is, i haven't pulled a single sherima; even if i started spending lab points on her now, gonna take me months to get her to even L+
@graceful mountain so unfortunately going to depend a lot on what you pull then since she is the main shop carry... could try khasos, Belinda, eironn, brutus
Anyone have a mehira to lend me please? It's for floor 238
Can you guys help me here, please? It's 23-56
Put fawkes instead of Thoran so that you get faction bonus. See if hogan interrupts his coffin
And NO triple wilders doesn't work
Tour du roi tu met trio Wilder non ? Avec shem et brutus devant
Et essaye de charm arden @pale kettle
Perso c'est passé comme ça pour moi
Je vien de dire que rien ne marchais
Hi all, I’m stuck on 16-40. Would anyone know a good lineup against that combo?
24-24 feels real rough. Anyone got any ideas?
@vernal quail
My Tasi dies one second into the battle. That's not a good sign.
@vernal quail Oof didnt see your's was E, yh you wont frontline it then.
I keep forgetting Gorvo exists, so I'm going to use this as a jumping-off point with him in there somewhere, but yeah, this particular layout isn't going to work for me.
Grez/Ferael instead maybe, might need to switch Gorvo with Shem depending on where he jumps.
Ended up getting there with this.
@steel patrol you need to move lyca to back mid and Arden mirroring Arden and spam stage until Arden roots Arden
Then I would have Brutus remove kaz dodge but play around and see 🤓
Is this impossible rn?
@final meteor which level?
What should I use for shemira to get the most keys?
@indigo jolt wilder 132
@final meteor
220 crystal rip.. need the 40 wilder fodder from event to make my eironn 240 ascended 1star
@final meteor Might be possible at lower crystal.
Also why is your Eironn 180, yet you have a 240 Lyca?
@west cairn roots don’t seem to be the issue, it’s Kaz once she’s broken free of them, she tears through my mythic Shem so easily and then the rest of the team falls apart from their Ogi.
I’ll try and fix the front line though
@indigo jolt thought I was gonna get eironn out of crystal to transition him to ascended
@west cairn with Shem opposite Kaz, my Arden lives to almost 2 ults. If Brutus is opposite Kaz, the dodge works but my Arden behind Brutus dies in literally 2 animations — every time. Arden takes a 118k hit and is dead.
Not really sure what to do, would be nice to have Tasi or another good CC. I’m lacking them at the moment.
Hey guys... I have no idea how to beat this fight, its so hard compared to the others that even when using a mercenary i can't make it (tried using other teamcomps but idk, maybe a fawkes mercenary could help ?)
@outer yew Having a athalia to counter arden could help
shes only elite+ but i can try yeah
The important thing is just to keep the arden roots away as long as possible
I’m stuck on this level, ping if u have any suggestions
which team would yo make for ice shemira i've only been able to get 2 keys
@sudden meteor What team did you try before?
fawkes
--lucius
saveas
--rosaline
belinda
I know there's not too much I can do, my max is 46%
It is a bit problematic since you can't add much damage since your saveas is already at max level and he is most likely all of your dmg
@chilly estuary Generally I would make Saveas my carry instead of the lightbearer bow girl, until perhaps level 150 when Shemira can take over
yeah and I also don't know which chars to ascend thats why only saveas tasi and shemira are L+
@modest smelt someone told me to use Saveas after I get him Elite+, and my Gwynth is my Carey rn
Yes. You really need Saveas L+, but since he is blue it will happen relatively fast. Not in time for the event, surely. @chilly estuary
whats the best way to counter arden if u dont have athalia
@sudden meteor you can try estrilda, shemira, saveas, Rosa, belinda
So idk wut to rlly do
@calm salmon Eironn can work too or nara
dont have any of them...
@calm salmon gwyneth if using dura’s eye. Nemora with charm
but my team get one shot before nemora can charm him
@calm salmon Nara works
You could try to use the mercenary system if you are desperate
ohhhh forgot about that😂
i need one for ascend for the resonating crystal and im kind stuck there
@calm salmon you need to have good boots on nemora to maximise her movement speed (ms) for faster charms
thats what ms for?
@sudden meteor just remove the cristal you're not using, that will give you easier shem
what do you mean @olive thorn
if you have less lvl on your cristal, shemira is weakest...
i asked for advice earlier, even tried using a mercenary mythic + athalia to cancel arden isnt working, if u got any other advice
well thx guys
@chilly estuary looks like the only hero you can level up to 120 is Hogan, is that correct? If so, try to reduce some of the others and up him to 120.
really? I though it would work taking into account my 5 strongest heroes
Hogan and Lucius
i'm not 100% sure since clean shem isn't a problem for my account but I saw this post on reddit, seems legit due to reacts > if you struggle with ice shemira even if with right team comp (lucius / beli / rowan / rosa / lorsan) just read the infobox.
your player combat rating is the sum of every hero combat rating, even the ones present in the resonating crystal.
remove every (unused) hero from the resonating crystal and your total combat rating will lower as well, thus weakening the boss.
edit: worked for me, with shemira Belinda rowan rosa lorsan team was struggling to reach 80%, removed everyone and halved my combat points, reached 100% with 30 seconds left.
Ah. Not sure which one of those is best at your level. Perhaps Hogan for more damage, but I don't remember
I think I should wait for mercenaries
@outer yew hey mate, can I see all your heroes
I could still get loot everyday from guild hunt etc
@chilly estuary sure. There will be waiting times occasionally.
Mhm. Ty for the help
@olive thorn
i mean the second i saw this level i knew i was gonna stuck on it so hard, even with mercenaries i can't get it, while just before i had pushed 20 levels in campaign
@outer yew
Tried using Lyca to be first and then Nemora to charm Arden, or Arden to tie up Arden. I would also chuck in Tasi. Then reroll and reroll, you must have Nemora charming Arden, when she starts charming some other antihero just cancel and restart.
@sacred escarp do you have Rowan, fawkes, Rosa, or Hendrik? Can try using Arden for charming too
not as a legendary no
it doesnt work cuz of the damn silvina, maybe i just need more levels
@sacred escarp Rowan and Rosa are fine at elite. Potions help a lot. Hogan/Hendrik tanking instead of ulmus would give bigger faction bonus too
who am i replacing for rowan/rosa
@sacred escarp do you have a screenshot of your heroes?
let me do that
@outer yew wouldn't she target Tasi though?
@outer yew can you take a strong eironn as merc ? He's a really good reply to silvina..
i can put things in the crystal, just took the legends out cause apparently the event is harder if you have higher battle and i wasn't using them anyway at that moment
im pretty sure thats not how it works
i mean i tried using the 3 wilders with shem and brutus but they are just so weak
is nemora's charm really random ? She targeted grezhul like 8 times
yeah it is, but also blocked by shield
so when silvina is shielded you can't charm her
Supposed to be random in the middle
@outer yew try
rowan
shemira
mehira
brutus
lyca
who does silvina target? mehira or rowan
oh ok i finally got a charm on the arden and he did root his allies but i still got rekt idk
who do i want her to target ? i can put the best gear on mehira or rowan to change it probably
want to target rowan cuz he immunes/dodges for like 3 s
she will just go on mehira whatever the stuff, ascension gap is to huge
Need some help on a lineup for ice shem. Yesterday I only managed two keys and I'm determined to do better today!
if you want to use a merc, try to find an eironn and run as this comp
Rosa
Rowan
Eironn
Lucius
Tasi
@sacred escarp can try
Belinda/Rosa/fawkes(?)
-hendrick/estrilda
Rowan
-Lucius
Gwyneth
It is a tougher stage for lb since it is graveborn. Hendrik is nice for stunning and protecting gwyn/Belinda. Rowan’s potions have good healing and his ult allows Belinda/gwyn to go faster so usually always want Rowan and Lucius in lb parties
Alternatively, can try putting Arden instead of Belinda and tasi for ulmus. More crowd control
yeah she targeted mehira and the result was pretty bad
rip, and u dont have the twins? @outer yew
but i don't think my lyca can do anything good tbh shes only elite+ and against this comp the haste buff isnt enough
And no no twins
You need to see what happens when Nemora charms Arden at least a couple more times though
In case first one was not so good rng
allright i just asked fro an eironn merc and i'll try tomorrow but imo i just need to get my 5th ascended and shemira to 221+
@outer yew
lyca
shemira
rowan
brutus
tasi
try to make silvina go for tasi. does tasi get 1 shot? need her to tele
Ice shemira? Cant get more than 3 keys
yeah she gets oneshoted but i mean lvl 200 against 243 not much do to
Can I get some help with my ice shem comp please?
whats a good Team for ice shemira?(event)
Graveborn 130 helped needed
@wind glade try this; gave me 5 keys 2 times
but since your belinda is only E+, replace her
@final meteor
@final meteor make sure silv is geared enough to get the initial stun on arden, for you i would put thoran frontline to replace my grez and anyone random where i had thoran
Dunno what to do here for Ice Shim
read my pinned message about ice shem, if that can't help you to manage get 100%, feel free to ask again
Need help with ice Shem, highest I reached was 50%
@odd python thanks it worked; btw what does the letter in front of 301 mean?