#lineup-help

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light kite
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Saveas should be your carry. The rest of your heroes should be tasi, nemora, rowan and a tank for now @proper ether

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@limpid quail @novel adder Yeah, Warek just barely soloed 4 heroes

limpid quail
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@weary cobalt
rowan
lucius
mehira/tasi
shemira
nemora

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rowan lowest def for silvana

gritty sail
idle oriole
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@gritty sail yea it's fine for now

rugged niche
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Help pls

proper ether
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@light kite I still get destroyed, does that mean I just have to wait to level my guys up more?

light kite
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@proper ether Skregg doesn't by any chance tank better than gorvo?

proper ether
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Nah he died faster and no bonus

light kite
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@proper ether You should get that Arden lvled up and replace Rowan or Nemora with him probably. Have nemora at the top backline so she can charm Saveas. Retry till she does

rugged niche
proper ether
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Okay I'll try that thank you

rugged niche
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How to finish this freaking stage

light kite
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@rugged niche stage number?

rugged niche
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@light kite 21-53

light kite
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@rugged niche a CC team where you focus on killing Ferael and Isabella first

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Just charming ferael will help you a lot so you don't get haunted

rugged niche
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I see

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@light kite thanks a lot

light kite
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@rugged niche It worked?

rugged niche
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👌 🎉

light kite
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good shit

rugged niche
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f yea

silver forum
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Guys anyone good with lightbringers need helo please

novel adder
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@silver forum ask here.

glacial brook
silver forum
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Rowan or rosalina

glacial brook
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i like rowan more @silver forum

pale kettle
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don't take a hero to L if you can't immediately take them to L+

rugged niche
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im confused

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Oh i see it was your friends

velvet flower
novel adder
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@silver forum right now no one yet.. first thing is avoid making L heroes.. secondly, since you already built belinda and lucius.. what you need is to make L+ fodder like mirael and hogan to feed to belinda.. so that when you want to progress to mythic it will be smoother.. you dont want to feed rowan/rosaline to belinda..

glacial brook
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anyone here beat kings tower 300?

novel adder
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@velvet flower i beat it with
Vurk
Numisu
Khasos
Brutus
Warek
basically merc carry warek.. i think 210 warek.. 180 everybody else iirc.. but that was pre-sig update..and required a lot of rng.
But i think a merc khasos with sig unlocked can carry much easier these days

rugged niche
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Rosaline is good when it comes to damage she can deal a lot of damage than belinda while rowan do more heal and energy for everyone its a close call honestly

velvet flower
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Thanks! I forgot about mercs @novel adder

pale kettle
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i still wouldn't ascend either @rugged niche

silver forum
rugged niche
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21-58 plz help i wont get any sleep if i still ddnt manage to finish this chapter !

novel adder
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@glacial brook could you remind me which one that is?

rugged niche
tranquil lake
light kite
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Whenever there's an Arden, it's a good idea to try your own Arden, especially if you can make him root faster, such as if you have lyca

novel adder
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@silver forum i'd try dropping raine for nemora or tasi...
either nemora bottom side or top side to charm morvus or saveas..
with tasi you'd want to rng until morvus shrapnel hits only tasi when she teleport somewhere with no one else.. looks doable with your levels though

rugged niche
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@light kite should i use the same formation i used earlier ?

light kite
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I'd remove the ferael and try that yeah.

silver forum
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I will get melted again

light kite
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Maybe Nemora top to charm enemy nemora too, not sure which is better. To not get rooted, or to not get charmed

novel adder
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@rugged niche i'd try
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Basically rng until you charm the ferael.. charm + root works too since he will still stun his own team.

light kite
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Oh shit, I gave advice for @tranquil lake not @rugged niche my bad

novel adder
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@silver forum you have to give each formation about 15 ish tries to see if its doable. its the nature of the game.. some stages require a crap load of retrying for perfect rng.. its the only way to pass while underpowered.

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the same formation can die in 3 secs but the very next battle win with everybody full hp

light kite
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Some comps are also more rng heavy than others. comps with crowd control are especially RNG because of the random targetting

pale kettle
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@novel adder it can be fun to try 50+ times and then finally get it :)

shy crag
pale kettle
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Need help with 23-24, not sure how to make Thoran cheese work. Tried for an hour today with various line ups, no go. He gets ultimate off almost every fight

covert jewel
rugged niche
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fkin niru always kills my shemira they will have a 1v1 fight my shemira cant do shit

frigid veldt
rain oriole
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@covert jewel try this formation
Nemora/Arden

Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca

My go to formation for whenever that specific wilder stage comes up, make sure you get kaz and Arden rooted at the start, will take some retries and rng

zenith tusk
glossy pagoda
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Use nara against ira, to stop healreduce, try weither fawkes or rosaline helps more

zenith tusk
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i tried nara for rosa and she died in 0.2 secs

glossy pagoda
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Only 140crystal instead of 141 is rough, hmmm

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Then try
Arden
Lucius/brutus (who survives longer)
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
Thats a lot of rng though

noble temple
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Who is the best to use together?

sharp egret
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Can’t figure this one out, any suggestions? Kaz Ira and Ogi just do too much dmg

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Maybe worth noting if you didn’t notice Rowan doesn’t have his SI yet

pale kettle
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Anyone know the best Thoran lineup for 23-24? Stuck here a month...

surreal aurora
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Any ideas on who my top characters should be??

modern python
surreal aurora
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@modern python athalia is real OP late game. Set her up against that Arden or shem. My attempt at helping 😂

summer hatch
woven lichen
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@summer hatch even when using Brutus? Could try lyca/tasi with dodge/blink too but probably a lot of tries

frank swift
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Am I going the right direction with this team?

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I want to sub athalia for talene when I reach 15k gems by summoning at stargazer. I miss one copy of Lucius and two of Brutus. I have enough to buy Arthur.

summer hatch
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@woven lichen yeah his shield gets almost instantly popped and dies shortly after

woven lichen
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@summer hatch May want to try tasi/lyca then. Nemora at top may not work that well either her cc can be cancelled by Warek

novel fulcrum
woven lichen
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@frank swift generally don’t want to depend on celestials or hypo for arena unless you will spend big. Need a lot to ascend them. Athalia also isn’t as amazing without her +30 sig. probably would be better to have more support and crowd control units. Rowan, tasi, Nemora etc

frank swift
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I’m a pve player in afk arena. So rn I could sub mythic+ memora for athalia. And maybe switch again only in stages where I need some disruption right?

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@woven lichen

woven lichen
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@frank swift for pve, the setup you have is too damage heavy. Generally better off having an overleveled carry like shemira, tank and support/crowd control. After everyone is L240 and above, then mix it up a bit... changes to focus more on faction bonus and multiple carries.... Nemora, tasi, Lyca, tank, and shemira/Ferael work well since the support helps to boost the carry which does the most damage. Enemies generally do way more damage than you too so would like to have some healing or crowd control

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For disruption, nara would generally work better than athalia since easier to ascend. If you can ascend athalia, then yeah she’s better

frank swift
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Only thing that changed is that I got one more copy or Lucius and Brutus in the last 20 summons before this shot. I’m near ascending memore but I don’t have any cc hero. Only got Rowan and Rosa

woven lichen
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Rowan and Rosa are fantastic too. Lucius, Rowan, Rosa, shemira/Belinda, and fawkes/tasi works @frank swift

frank swift
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Ty💪🏻

hoary steppe
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Ang tips?

velvet grail
glossy pagoda
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It depends on ur and the enemies lineup, generelly u want avoid using tanks that are weak to the opposing faction(s) if possible. Espaccially in early game. Also netting a teambonus when possoble is nice.

olive heart
knotty bough
woven lichen
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@hoary steppe try using more lightbringer like thane instead of Ana. Belinda is ok too

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Try Rosa instead of Brutus/Belinda or Nemora instead of Belinda... no faction bonuses on your setup @olive heart

knotty bough
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I can’t ascend the carry. I don’t have enough to copies to ascend him. I’ve been stuck on this level for two days haha

glossy pagoda
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Ye i realised too, so do you have dust for the last 101 available?

knotty bough
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What’s 101?

glossy pagoda
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The level of ur lowest hero,the uograde to 101 needs hero dust

knotty bough
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I just reset Arden to level up kelthir

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I do have enough yes

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3.3k in the bag rn

olive heart
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@woven lichen thanks ill try

glossy pagoda
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Then resetting belinda and niru first, and bringing ogi to 120 and evryone else to the same level for best crystal level, might be the best strategie. Then use
Saveas
Ogi
Mehira
Ulmus
Lyca
as your team

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Belinda should be leveled up manually tho, since she has highest ascension. It doesnt matter that she isnt part of the team

pastel flame
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Need help, got all heroes

gaunt ermine
lost solstice
olive heart
woven lichen
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@pastel flame
Twins
-Lucius
Gwen
-Rowan
Ferael

  • After twin and ferael ult, Gwyn should be doing massive damage
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@lost solstice
Should make sure Silvina jumps on Tasi. Maybe put nemora at bottom to charm isabelle if she isn't banished

twin hound
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Anyone have a solution for mauler tower 133?

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Or plain tower 300

woven lichen
twin hound
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Thank you 👍👍

lost solstice
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Worked like a charm ;). Thank you @woven lichen

twin hound
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Idk why I die so fast on tower 300. My heroes are level 260 lmao

woven lichen
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@lost solstice nice! 😃

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@twin hound safiya might be worth trying too. Her field would help against thane and athalia

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Lucius
-Rowan
Safiya
-Shemira/Ferael
Rosa

The stages takes some rng though since need Ferael to dodge and stay alive with the original setup

light kite
brisk heart
limpid flare
woven lichen
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@limpid flare try using Rowan and Rosa instead of Nemora and saveas

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@brisk heart if you can’t kill even one and are using tears, you may have the wrong relics. Rosa also shouldn’t be so overleveled... makes enemies stronger and she’s not your carry

limpid flare
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this is campaign

olive heart
low geyser
indigo jolt
light kite
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ill try

indigo jolt
fallen cliff
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These are my current heroes. Is it worth ascending Goran to legend with these?

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I dont know when or even if I can get another lucius/rowan

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I can get a legend Ira, Saveas/Vurk/Ankhira and Galon/Angelo

olive heart
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@indigo jolt tried to charm him, it just wont its like

Nemora
----Example
Example
----Example
Example
right?

indigo jolt
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@olive heart Yes, Nemora should be opposite ferael. Its just a matter of Rng, should land charm at some point, If ferael usually interuppts its, Nemora needs more mspd from gear to land charm first.

olive heart
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Alright thanks!!!! : D

indigo jolt
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@fallen cliff Ascension questions in #classic-questions .
I believe their is a helpful pinned message their as well regarding early game planning.

oblique phoenix
fallen cliff
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Thank you @indigo jolt

indigo jolt
oblique phoenix
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@indigo jolt thx, this seems like a fun stage to RNG

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Just beat it!! let's go

wet kestrel
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I have mythic rowan lvl 140 and he’s kinda underwhelming. Does he get really OP at a certain level or something?

half sorrel
modern bison
odd python
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@modern bison try
shem
brutus
mehira
tasi
nemora/lyca

edgy flower
modern bison
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@odd python I got so close but so far sadira ty for the help tho ;;

odd python
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@modern bison keep trying you should be able to get it with those levels. it’s also sorta hard for me to gauge since you have different heroes to mine, but try using the support heroes in different backline slots and see if it makes a difference

modern bison
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@odd python I tried replacing a bunch but skreg just stomps everything kazified prob been stuck for more than 2 weeks now. Ty for the help tho :”)

silent wraith
glossy pagoda
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@edgy flower id personally wait for that 4th copy of lyca, since she has a great si at 20. And has selfsustain which is nice, if u pverlevel her for the tower. Speaking of overleveling, can you reach 180nemora and 160crystal or close to it? Maybe not as effectiv as my 180 seirus but could still be handy, if u dont mind the 40diamonds and a periode with weaker arena defs.

pale kettle
plain light
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Hmm

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Try putting shemira or rosaline on 1
Saveas on where shemira is
2 Hendrik 4 maybe arden

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@pale kettle 🤔

pale kettle
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Thx man @plain light khasosheart

plain light
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@pale kettle if it works 😂👌

pale kettle
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It did thx bb

last flame
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Anyone else is having problem while loging in

tiny zinc
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Okay, did just put Shemira on lvl 180..shemira

glossy pagoda
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So you cleared it with that?

graceful urchin
tiny zinc
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Yes I did

proven thunder
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is there a general rule of thump of how to counter gollus? hes too tank, my saveas cant kill him fast enough

still oar
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You clear the other side first or poison and bleed him.
Try
Nemora

Lyca(brut)
Arden(tasi)
Brutus (lyca)
Saveas
Charm ankhira @proven thunder

proven thunder
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thanks, it worked

real palm
zenith valve
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@real palm he uses an e nara

real palm
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I only have an E rosa rn, I sacrificed my L+ so that I could go from level 200 crystal to 245

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It was just out of impatience but Im fine with it

zenith valve
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:l hmm i used shem + ferael at tht stage in my ss

real palm
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oh yeah I have terrible fereal luck mine is only L+

zenith valve
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this is also wht someone used could try to use lucius instead of brutus

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he did it with basically lvl 0 sigs on all of them

real palm
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hmm, maybe that could work? the issue is my lyca and tasi arent that strong

gleaming nacelle
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Help

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Anyone please?

alpine lark
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maybe wilder support team with brutus and shemira if u have tasi @gleaming nacelle

heady wave
limpid quail
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@heady wave try
tasi
brutus
lyca
shemira
nemora

gentle cargo
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Hey guys, we got arthur with the last release and I got a question in terms of buy strategy.
Iam rn at around 30+k labcoins. I need 20 more runs for the 100runs challenge which gives another 45k
I also have a Rayne that just needs 2 more copies and one more l+ to get to ascendant (would be my 6th ascendant and my highest heroes are between 200 and 240.
Shall I just go for Arthur or get the Rayne copies?
She is also not the only hero I get to ascendant, but the only guaranteed lightbearer

limpid quail
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@gentle cargo thats more for #classic-questions since its not really lineup related. arthur is more of a lategame hero since he get ascension and level of his fused hero. you should get more heroes to A first imo

sleek stone
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Anybody has their lineup with wich they beat 22-44

limpid quail
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@idle oriole try
nemora
brutus
lyca
shemira
tasi/arden

worthy island
fierce wadi
azure spear
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@fierce wadi idk if someone answered your question but arden is the old goat with a crystal staff in wilders

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and he's a recommended early game hero, since he can go up to L+ (legendary +) easier compared to ascended tier, and has very good CC (crowd control)

fierce wadi
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put him instead of safya?

silver forum
azure spear
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are you familiar with game terms or should i annotate everything? also safiya probably doesnt work well while weak since she dies off fairly early before her ult can be cast

silver forum
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Please help

fierce wadi
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i know some of the terms

silver forum
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I tryed with replacing all combinstions i just getting melted

azure spear
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@fierce wadi try using arden and saveas (mauler dps) as soon as possible along with your mehira

silver forum
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And if replace lb i just insta die

azure spear
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if, within the short period your skreg doesnt work out well then try replacing it with gorvo since the faction boost should help a bit

fierce wadi
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okay thank you

azure spear
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@silver forum i would imagine the problem is the bottom gets wiped out too quickly coz of estrilda charge and aoe from morvus and mirael... so maybe swap raine for arden, put rowan in middle and rosaline nearer to belinda.

fierce wadi
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is gorvo considered to bebetter that skreg

azure spear
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rowan should help lucius hold out until shield is ready, hopefully saveas doesnt murder belinda before her ult gets cast. if she casts it twice before the mirael ult i believe you should win

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gorvo and skreg does different things, since gorvo jumps into enemy backline to CC them, while skreg CC a bit until it pushes everyone to backline and wait for strong AOE to finish the job.

fierce wadi
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what if i replace safya with gorvo

azure spear
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then have skreg and gorvo as front? assuming you are preparing for PvP (since it looks like arena), that might not work out well since gorvo isn't quite an early game hero, especially without 4th skill, and will easily die right after landing in enemy camp. after that, well, your team lacks some burst kill element, so if shemira gets taken out early then your team is as good as dead. on the other hand if you put strong support for shemira and let her hold out until ult is ready... winning isnt hard

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shemira works well with CC teams since her ulti basically takes time to kill, and before lv 161 she is super vulnerable when placed against enemies of same level, since her ult leech is burst, unlike the lv161 upgrade that changes it to regeneration

verbal quail
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any tips? been stuck on for about 2 weeks now

azure spear
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first off, sorry but your ascension is looking a bit gloomy

verbal quail
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yeah I know that's why I started a new one :(

azure spear
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well if you want to solve this one, i believe having a tank/CC on the lower 3 should work better than aiming for the top. a quick kill on top should work better since that bloodsucker is a bloody pain when left till the end

verbal quail
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did not understand that but I'll try

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I die instantly

azure spear
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cant quite see the rest of the lineup, but looks like you've got an estrilda, so i would try to pit her against vedan and ankhira. the charge is a good way to stop vedan from gaining energy

verbal quail
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oki

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nope I die instantly

azure spear
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idk this looks quite tough since the levelling is also all over the place

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my advice is to drop eironn's level at rickety cart then bring lucius' level up so rosaline can follow him instead, and just put the rest on silvina for now since you can fodder her easily and get back those resources

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she'll probably target the arkadios at the back and hopefully kill him before she dies.

cobalt helm
limpid quail
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@cobalt helm try
nemora
hogan
shemira
golus
arden

cobalt helm
azure spear
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was thinking front shemira hogan, back mehira rowan nemora

cobalt helm
limpid quail
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i think shemira at 81 isnt tanky enough against saveas

cobalt helm
azure spear
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switch mehira and nemora? at least nemora can keep glus away for a bit

limpid quail
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my plan with the previous lineup was that nemora charms him, so he attacks golus. does she even charm anyone? otherwise switch her with arden so the top side is rooted

azure spear
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nemora charms front row more often imo

cobalt helm
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No she died too quickly. I lost in about 15 seconds ful.

I’ll try that shoko

limpid quail
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thats why you shouldnt say after 1 try it doesnt work. its all rng based

azure spear
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hahaha try each possible composition for 10 runs each and if any of them comes close to killing of 3 enemies then it's worth trying again

cobalt helm
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Ooooo it worked shoko! Thank you both of you!! I tapped over the stats page by accident. I wanted to rewatch it 😦

azure spear
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oh wow i actually did not expect it to work that fast. good job team

tulip mesa
cobalt helm
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I’ll remember that next time to try more tries 🙂

gleaming nacelle
glossy pagoda
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Its quite annoying. Mirael 140 with rosaline loses to vedan. but vedan 140 loses to Saveas. Any ideas, besides waiting for 141carry, or using merc? I could put nara on crystal, but she could only deal with the 3rd most annoying unit aka ankhira.

shy crag
limpid quail
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@gleaming nacelle did you try wilder backline?
lyca
shemira
nemora
lucius
tasi
tasi with lowest def for silvina

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@glossy pagoda try
nemora
vedan
arden
brutus
tasi

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@shy crag arden belinda front doesnt work at all i think
lyca
brutus/lucius
nemora
shemira
tasi/lorsane/arden if you have them, dont know you full pool

shy crag
limpid quail
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the charm of nemora has to hit ferael, if not retry until it does. all other tries are meaningless and probably wont succeed

glossy pagoda
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Best fight with vedan so far was
Arden
vedan(eye)
Nemora(call)
Brutus(grace)
Tasi
But still lost a 1vs3 against saveas and greens in the end. Meanwhile mirael can wipe everyone but vedan and then always dies befor rosa is full again.

limpid quail
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@glossy pagoda is a screenshot missing? the last lineup you asked had no greens and which rosa?

glossy pagoda
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Well i meaned blood snarl and ardios, and i also tried alot of
Rosaline
Vedan
Mirael(140)
Rowan
Izold
Which often resulted in the mentioned szenario

lament birch
glossy pagoda
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Try lyca nemora arden backline, to get them rooted twice

west depot
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@lament birch reset one of your 220’s and get Shem to 240. 240 Shem is ridic

olive heart
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Any tip*

glossy pagoda
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Maybe arden lyca nemora works here, if nemora charms Ferael

torpid quest
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anyone on here that i should be using more? all of them have basically maxed out mythic gear with their faction on it

coral pier
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Well lucius is in my opinion the best frontile in the game so you might want to consider making him your next 240 @torpid quest

glossy pagoda
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Because level 160 is their max level, and they have all there abilities unlocked by then, #classic-questions would be the better place to discus this though.

torpid quest
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Well currently i got grezhul and brutus front lucius middle back and i got sehmira and lyca

coral pier
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Honestly I would try replacing brutus with lucius and then putting a graveborn or a celestial back line so you can get a faction bonus. @torpid quest

pale kettle
coral pier
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@pale kettle Maybe replace lyca with athalia to counter the arden

pale kettle
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@pale kettle just move ur nemora to where lyca is and keep trying till she charms Arden

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Athalia worked :)

coral pier
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Athalia is very often a great problem solver against cc units

wraith viper
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Hard stuck at 15-40 asking for advice/suggestions.

sharp egret
coral pier
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@sharp egret If arden is the problem maybe replace tasi with athalia so you can counter arden + get a faction bonus

wraith viper
coral pier
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@wraith viper If you have rowan maybe try replacing hogan with shemira and then putting rowan back middle

limpid quail
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@wraith viper use nemora to charm ferael, and put your damage to the bottom side to kill niru fast
tasi
lucius
nemora
shemira
lyca

west depot
wraith viper
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Holy cow, thank you so much! Excellent advice.

carmine orbit
limpid quail
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@west depot try
nemora
brutus
lyca
shemira
arden
or nemora bottom and tasi top instead of arden

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@wraith viper most of the time nemora is the key against ferael

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@carmine orbit use nemora to charm ferael
arden/tasi
brutus/lucius
nemora
shemira
lyca

wicked pelican
cerulean hamlet
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@wicked pelican
Lyca

  • Shemira
    Arden
  • Lucius/Brutus
    Tasi
    Maybe, Arden to root both tasis would be ideal
worthy island
west depot
coral pier
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@west depot Did you try countering arden with athalia?

west depot
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@coral pier Arden is the least of my problems the fuckin thane and athalia rinse me

coral pier
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Maybe try: Frontline Tasi-Shemira Backline: Nemora-Brutus-Athalia @west depot

limpid quail
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@west depot try arden bottom or top to root athalia after she jumps into you backline

obtuse oak
primal tartan
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So my brother hasn't been able to play for 3 months now, everytime he loads the game and goes to battle or do something else the game immediately closes. He has tried everything including reinstalling game and resetting his phone, nothing worked. I then allowed him to try on my phone did same thing then I went on my account and it didn't do it to me only his account. And I logged into my account on his phone and I was fine he logged back into his account but the game closed. So could someone please help figure this out we tried everything.

coral pier
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@primal tartan You could try sending a support ticket and see if the devs can help you. Also this should be asked in #classic-questions

pale rover
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Nope, this should be reported in #bug-reports. But either way, you'd have to either send in a support ticket in-game or on facebook with proof so they can help you sort it out.

paper wadi
broken egret
coral pier
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@broken egret Eironn instead of lyca to pull in ferael

broken egret
#

ye ill give that some more tries and hope it helps @coral pier

coral pier
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@broken egret If his pull keeps getting interrupted try using dura's call on him because it gives movement speed and allows you to pull faster

broken egret
#

@coral pier ye ill try it, been down to just niru 1 or 2 times with some comp, but than he decides to ult and bam 100% to 0 1 hit

indigo aspen
#

All my peeps die before they attack... ._. Any suggestions?

lament birch
#

@west depot I could do that immediately but I want to safe 20k dust for my ascended brutus

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@west depot even got it with 234 shem

indigo jolt
broken egret
#

@indigo jolt thanks ill try it

teal dust
broken egret
#

@indigo jolt i havent tried yet, but did your mehira get her ulti off or just insta die?

indigo jolt
#

Died to silv, fairly sure.

woven lichen
#

@teal dust does Rowan instead of Nemora help? Faction bonus and instant healing to help with burst

teal dust
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@woven lichen it doesn't

pale kettle
woven lichen
#

@teal dust might need to pick better artifacts or gain levels then

glossy pagoda
#

@teal dust Did you trigger as few symbols as possible (5blue one green i think)

teal dust
#

i did it btw guys
thx for anyone willing to help

coral pier
#

Lucius-Shemira-Belinda-Rosaline-Raine/Nemora should work pretty well @pale kettle

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If you have rowan its also very good instead of Raine/Nemora

woven lichen
#

@pale kettle lineup similar to Laku but you can try twins for Nemora/Raine

coral pier
#

Yeah twins are super good if they dont die too fast at that ascension

woven lichen
#

The linking should give more damage already so that’s a good boost. Could have shemira and Belinda in front. Lucius supporting whichever mage is weaker

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@teal dust nice one 🙂

teal dust
#

i thought it would be impossible to clear with my levels, thx btw

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i did trigger every symbols and it make the boss lvl 300, i guess i'm just lucky to be able clear this

pale kettle
glossy pagoda
#

Ye i had to restart it for easier boss, back then, because his ult killed everyone. Good job

fickle mortar
#

Stuck so hard on 11-40, help pls

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It's so hard as a free to play player🙄😒😒

glossy pagoda
#

Try
Fawkes
Hendrik
Rowan
Hogan
Saveas
Fawkes should coffin the khasos so saveas can go for morvus Face asap. Maybe also reset some heroes to 121 So that saveas is 160 Or close to it and only your tanks are around 140 too, fawkes and rowan do work in low level too

fickle mortar
#

I try it thanks 🙏🏻

glossy pagoda
#

And remember for those stages, u never want to go for golus with saveas first

fickle mortar
#

What is golus 😅

glossy pagoda
#

The centaur

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He is always the hardest to kill

dark current
broken egret
#

@coral pier ur setup is not gonna work eironn pulls wrong way cause of silv dash

coral pier
#

Did you try placing the silvina target as far away as possible from eironn? @broken egret

fickle mortar
#

@glossy pagoda thanks I almost passed the level. A tried it 2 times , and it's alwasy seavas vs 2. I have to enhance, and level up and it will be good. Thanks🙏🏻🙏🏻😄

glossy pagoda
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If u have nara she could be a good replacement for fawkes here, she is a good counter for mirael

pine cedar
dark current
#

Nobody? ulricry

obtuse oak
pine cedar
turbid edge
#

change the positions of lucius and brutus

austere nova
coral pier
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I would. Lucius is way more stat reliant than rowan @austere nova

austere nova
#

i'll give it a try, reset Rowan to 180... was able to push Lucius to 214 though...

devout berry
sharp flame
carmine cloud
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Not sure what to do here. Shemira dies super fast wherever i put her. Feel like i need nemora bottom for saveas and arden/tasi middle since backline top gets targeted by vurk.

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@sharp flame No, arden is good up untill like chapter 22 i think?

sharp flame
#

Then keep leveling Shemira I guess

glossy pagoda
#

If he has an E+ spare arden, its quite save to fodder the L+ one id say

carmine cloud
#

Making Nemora L+->M will give him nothing tho

glossy pagoda
#

Ye another character probaply more helpful

sharp flame
#

NVM I just passed it got lucky with Tasi jumping to Shems back

glossy pagoda
#

Be prepared for 17-40. Way harder then anything else in 17

sharp flame
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@glossy pagoda now I am there hehe

glossy pagoda
#

Maybe you can use my linup for it @sharp flame
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Belinda (180)

gleaming nacelle
sharp flame
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@glossy pagoda no Fawkes hehe

glossy pagoda
#

Uh then 5lb wont work, i got mine from challenger Shop, but i can c why people would like to go for another option there

carmine cloud
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@mossy kelp Why arent u leveling ur shemira?

mossy kelp
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I don't have the dust to do it

glossy pagoda
#

@vale flax
How about
Fawkes
Lucius/ Thoran
Rowan
Shemira
Athalia?

vale flax
#

ok ty

carmine cloud
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Even if u reset brutus and lucius to 180? @mossy kelp

mossy kelp
#

I can try I don't know if this helps me tho...

glossy pagoda
#

If possible only Brutus, hes less reliant on stats compared to lucius

sharp flame
carmine cloud
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Overleveling your carry def helps you, lol. If you get your shem from 200 to 220, thats so much better than having 3 200s

glossy pagoda
#

Nice

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Ye if he needs to reset both then both ofcourse, probaply shemira and brutus should be the frontline then

mossy kelp
#

It works like this

carmine cloud
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Now try the standard

Shemira, brutus, wilder trio

mossy kelp
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Thx worked

carmine cloud
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Glad it helped 🙂

lapis wharf
coral pier
#

I would not do faction pulls just for fodder at that point of the game. I would recommend LB. @lapis wharf

carmine cloud
#

Wouldnt it be better for him to focus on wilders for now?

glossy pagoda
#

You get some gb fodder from gb tower 20 and 60, if u havent already

coral pier
#

If I had to choose I would pick Lightbearers every time. I think they are better, thats just my opinion tho. @carmine cloud

spark grove
glossy pagoda
#

I currently choose wilders all the time, but i have 7 tasi and 6 seirus, thats why

spark grove
#

What should i focus on leveling?

lapis wharf
#

😮 so lb or wilder

coral pier
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@lapis wharf I would go for LB

carmine cloud
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@coral pier Its just that the only real LB hero he has is Lucius and Belinda (which he is not going to use untill shemira falls off).

glossy pagoda
#

Wherever you plan to build 2 of your 5 first ascended id say

coral pier
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@carmine cloud The wilder situation isnt in that much of a better place either in terms of copies so either one can work.

carmine cloud
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I guess, but isnt LB kinda meh mid-game compared to wilder trio? If your main carry is shem

lapis wharf
#

Wouldn’t I use Lucius Shem rosaline and Rowan

coral pier
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@lapis wharf Yes

carmine cloud
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For me, Lucius doesnt really tank at this stage. Rowan i absolutely love and rosa i dont find the use for except for wrizz/lab.

vale flax
coral pier
#

@carmine cloud Lightbearers are very good for shemira because they can keep her alive very well. If you are using lucius he should obviously be a bit overlevelled too

vale flax
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@glossy pagoda

glossy pagoda
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Nice

lapis wharf
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@coral pier thanks

glossy pagoda
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I personally find lightbearers more consistent then wilders (as in less rng heavy) but there are stages where only that rng works out. Iam on ferael not shemira tho

coral pier
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The main reason why I like lightbearers is the fact that they are so tanky and consistent. Also the combo of Lucius+Rowan is too good to ignore. Lightbearers are also the most well rounded faction since you have such a big diversity in heroes.

worthy swallow
low saffron
#

I know that I have too many Legendaries, I just need help getting through the rest of 14, currently I'm stuck on 14-37

zenith tusk
iron wing
#

Hi

lapis wharf
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@worthy swallow Lucius, hogan, Belinda, nem and lorsan

iron wing
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Can someone help me

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With something

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And what can i do from this ones to ascend how is better to not do a mistake:) 😁

still oar
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Non. Keep eironn at e+ for now and wait for more copies if you want to raise him. E+ is fine in tower for a while and others are A tiers so not a fodder @iron wing.

For ascencion questions should be#classic-questions. imokbrutus

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Try
Belinda. Belinda

Luc. >>>Tasi
Grezhul. Eironn
Lyca. >>>Lyca
Tasi. Grezhul
Rng it so tasi doesn't die from silvina's jump and can put enemies to sleep @iron wing

iron wing
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Thankyou master cheers everyone

still oar
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Try
Shem

Lyca
Arden
Brutus (tank)
Nemora
Charm saveas and root ankhira and estrilda.
And who does tasi or fawkes control with coffin or banish @zenith tusk?

zenith tusk
#

Vurk

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And i was promptly stomped

still oar
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What happened? Did you charm saveas?

zenith tusk
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Yes, he attacked brutus 3 times, lyca just died, arden just died, shemira lasts longer but no ulti so no damage, maybe im finally on my comp ceiling from this level?

still oar
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Coukd be, I was around your level with 176 Shem and support are 141. Lyca can die she just there for haste. It was big struggle but do able with the correct rng
Let's see
Can luc but8 time for shemira if you put him with Rowan
Try
Shem

Rosa
Rowan
Luc
Tasi(nemora)
Same dealio charm saveas or if you use tasi rng so shem can ult twice in succession

zenith tusk
#

Stomp again, ill level them boys and cry a little

pale kettle
#

Hewwo I need help

remote otter
#

Any ideas might just wait till event to try getting more xp been stuck couple days I get down to reaper vs shemira

odd python
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generally nemora across from ferael is a good choice, rng charm and he interrupts the enemy team, maybe also swap arden and fawkes to have a better shot at rooting enemy shem so she doesnt silence

remote otter
#

Shemira gets coffin

odd python
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oh ok i forgot about that
try
rowan
shem
nem
lucius
fawkes

remote otter
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I just got it

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Wilder trio shemira lucuis which I've done before but maybe all the extra lvels made me pass

devout jolt
austere nova
woven lichen
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@austere nova I would try replacing thane with Rowan. Having both of them help shemira do more damage.... adding lorsan for Belinda would push it even further

austere nova
#

@woven lichen ... would changing out Belinda for Lorsan be worth the loss of the 4 lb faction bonus?

woven lichen
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@austere nova it can be. Lorsan’s skills helps to boost ult damage by a lot so shemira should be doing even more damage to make up for it.

still oar
#

I see your Belinda's is equal to Shem in level. Does she equal in gears? If so belinda would be better than Shem

austere nova
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I only have an E Lorsan, duno if he can survive the last few Wrizz atks

devout jolt
#

...

still oar
#

Test. Whether you can deal more or not. Luc should be able to mitigate. As long as you deal more damage it should be okay, no?

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Bel

Luc
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora
you should not really have a big trouble with that team. Don't do hard mode just yet @devout jolt

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You can hard close the app, clown. If you didn't like the result and it won't count as long as it not ended yet

austere nova
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Shem's weapon is +23, Belinda's wep is +17..... Shem's has has much better gear, but Belinda is full M 3/4* gear. Rosaline follows Shem, so she's getting the multi Ulti's off...

still oar
#

I mean use
Lorsan

Luc
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
In that set up will Rosa follow Belinda?
My lesser Belinda deal more damage than shemira in that set up

austere nova
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yeah, Rosa would follow Belinda in that setup... I progress with Shem at 220, and Luc at 220. i ricky cart'd Luc back to 181 and pushed Belinda to 220 to see what kind of dmg she could do, lol

ember bane
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@still oar what better to choose for labyrinth I use Shemira n Brutus n wilders

still oar
#

Wdym @ember bane? Relics?

ember bane
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@still oar with this team sorry slow upload

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If wanna use LB team also I can

still oar
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The non athalia one since you have to timing your tasi . And gb>lb which is a plus.
As long as you have Rowan and luc you can always use lb most the time in labyrinth
My team
Is Shem, estrilda, Rosa, Rowan luc. Estrilda if she had sig only. On my alts luc, Rosa and Rowan are l+ or less

ember bane
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@still oar For LB i have Luicius sign only rest all E+
Mostly I can defeat them easily just making team for boss Wrizz

still oar
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It will work since Rosa and Rowan wouldn't be tanking. If you struggle add tasi sometimes. For wrizz
Baden

Luc
Rowan
Shem
Rosa
Luc Will shield most of the damage so even tho your backline all e+ they should be fine

wintry ether
#

Is 4 LB + nem a good comp to carry me thru mid game?

sterile canyon
stone geode
regal swallow
ember bane
#

@regal swallow mostly Shemira for which heroes do you use Faction scroll?

regal swallow
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@ember bane wilder

ember bane
#

@regal swallow so go for Shemira Brutus Tasi Nemora and Lyca

regal swallow
#

What team should I be using for now?

still oar
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Try charm grezhul with your current line up but replace Belinda with Rosa. Rosa would be behind shemira. If failed try
Tasi

Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Nemora
Try charm grezhul
@regal swallow

ebon ridge
#

Just joined 5 days ago. I LOVE the synergy of this group but I have a feeling it can be better. I definitely want to keep the maid and paladin together, and I fancy the voodoo guy with all his totems, as well as the Phoenix gal with her unlimited revivals/healing. Not really sure what I should aim for from here aside from making them stronger of course. Any replacement suggestions or anything?

wise merlin
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@ebon ridge Aim to level up Eironn and Seirus instead of Talene and Numisu, because :

Numisu and Talene are Elite tier, which means they level cap at 100

While Seirus and Numisu are Legendary, which means they are level capped at 140.

This will provide you with level advantage manipulation of Ascension tier through the Resonating Crystal.

TL;DR : What could be better than your current formation? Your current formation, but with Talene and Numisu having a greater level due to proper level manipulation.

Hope this helps! 😁

ebon ridge
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@wise merlin oh. My. Goodness. YOU ARE A GENIUS!!! Thank you!!!!

old ore
#

Someone @ me, but i can't find the message

wise merlin
#

@old ore Try this :

Nemora
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Athalia
My train of thought RNG wise behind it :

-Nemora will charm Arden, ensuring he will root Lyca, Ulmus, and possibly Estrilda
-Athalia will disable Morvus's AoE and energy gain by her ability, divine strike.
-Estrilda will swing at Lyca, killing her and keeping your main damager dealer at no Risk
-Brutus will chop through Ulmus due to faction advantage and immunity
-Once Shemira gets a few ultimates off, you should be good to go ^^

You're very welcome 😊 so glad I could help @ebon ridge

old ore
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@wise merlin Lyca instakilled

wise merlin
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She's not necessary, she's only there to meatshield

spring sleet
still oar
spring sleet
#

Thank you @still oar, looks like the level has changed a little bit.

cosmic ravine
wild tree
limpid quail
#

@cosmic ravine saveas to 100 and level him whenever you can, he is the best early game carry

verbal quail
#

any tips? 10-23

edgy flower
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@verbal quail same as the previous guy, get Saveas and use him.

solid flame
#

Any advice?

wise merlin
#

@solid flame Tried swapping places of Lyca and Nemora, and then Nemora with Ferael? So Ankhira will be charmed as Lyca dodges Warek entirely?

solid flame
#

@wise merlin will try that one. Tnx for the tip

worthy island
stiff pendant
stray pine
#

Put safiya at the back and kaz at the front @stiff pendant

stiff pendant
#

thanks mate

pale kettle
#

I know what most will say, just get better heroes or wait for mercenary a week, but lets see if u got better tips than what i already know

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I already heard a tip to replace Ira with Rosaline, more tips appreciated 😛

stray pine
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Change Ira out for Belinda or Rosa. Put Numisu in the backline

pale kettle
#

Thanks ^^

zealous acorn
broken egret
#

@pale kettle thats 23-24 right?

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@pale kettle This setup works, does require quite some rng tho i believe

broken egret
#

@vale flax if you can put an arden in crystal and run something like
lyca/shem
shem/lyca
arden
thoran
nem

or even this one if shem can survive on the front vs the kaz
arden
shem
lyca
thoran
nem

vale flax
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I dont have arden sorry

stray pine
#

Saveas
Brutus
Mirael
Estril
Lucius
Give this comp a try @fair iron

fair iron
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@stray pine way worst :S

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@stray pine ohh done ...thanks ;p

junior stratus
#

Any tips ?

ember bane
boreal rivet
#

What should i do with my lineup

stray pine
#

@junior stratus what stage is that

still oar
#

You have a better grezhul try grezhul instead of brutus @ember bane

real palm
steep lark
late tide
stiff pendant
pale kettle
#

I’ve just been using the same lineup from wrizz for Soren I was just wondering what the best lineup I have to fight against Soren

limpid quail
#

@ember raven rosa is following who? probably shemira, then put her directly behind her so she doesnt have to move so far. replace belinda with arden

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@late tide switch shemira and lucius, replace kaz with arden or tasi if you have them. also dont recommend to make so many ascended tier to L. you waste fodder for other heroes when you dont pull the remaining copies for L+

ember raven
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@limpid quail ah, I already cleared this stage, but thanks. Should I give Belinda's resources to Arden?

pale kettle
limpid quail
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@stiff pendant 3 carries are way too much. remove eironn and belinda and put hogan front and arden back. i would also reset eironn and belinda and level hogan and arden instead, you will get their copies more likely than the others. lineup like this:
nemora
golus
arden
hogan
saveas

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@pale kettle lucius, baden, shemira, rosa, rowan should make a decent team

stiff pendant
#

thanks mate

pale kettle
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Thanks

limpid quail
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@ember raven you can do that, you should level the heroes with the highest ascension until lvl 160. since arden is legendary tier you definitly will get him to L+ first. also when he is 81/141 he has one more root to use, which is also very nice

ember raven
#

Thanks

carmine cloud
#

Not sure what to do here. Shemira dies super fast wherever i put her. Feel like i need nemora bottom for saveas and arden/tasi middle since backline top gets targeted by vurk. Rowan doesnt seem to help much in the mix either.

limpid quail
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@carmine cloud try this
lyca
shemira
arden
brutus
nemora/tasi
or try to switch arden to bottom. requires some rng though to root and charm the right people there

real palm
#

@carmine cloud you have a lucius, swap him in for brutus. Lucius heals your team and defends them

carmine cloud
#

Not at this level. He gets 1tapped lol 😄

twilit forum
junior stratus
#

@stray pine Is graveborn tower 165

limpid quail
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@twilit forum you have 3 carries in the backline, put some support in. replace belinda, isabella and put nemora opposite of ferael and make sure she charms him and put lyca/tasi in

twilit forum
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So i cant just put diffrent heros in

limpid quail
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you have the ones i mentioned, belinda, isabella out of the formation and nemora, lyca in

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the rest stays as is

twilit forum
#

Nop

limpid quail
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@twilit forum thats numisu not nemora. she is the sheep

twilit forum
#

Ah, wel rhst also didnt work

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Less enemys where killed but backline stayed longer

limpid quail
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its not 1 try and done, you have to get the right timings and skills. hit retry or place belinda instead of shemira and see how that works out

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shemira front for estrilda is also an option as she has selfsustain

twilit forum
#

Ty l, it worked

marble hawk
delicate ocean
fair iron
pale kettle
#

22-8 I can’t beat this for the life of me I can sometimes get tasi to ult get like 7.4m damage with shem but they always stop taking damage at around 25% hp because of healing or something

fair iron
forest karma
#

Any1 help me im new, what hero i should take

paper wadi
jade idol
wise merlin
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@forest karma Hey! 😊 could you please specify? What do you mean by your question?

@paper wadi Tried putting Shemira infront of Silvina and Brutus to tank Grezhul instead? As far as I know Grezhul will gain less defense from his stealing ability.

Also, make sure to put Arden as far as possible from Tasi, so he will root 3 enemies.

paper wadi
#

ty

wise merlin
#

.
@jade idol

Hello! 🙂

You should swap the positions of Lyca and Arden, root Lyca twice and put Shemira against Golus, so she will gain enough energy. Make sure you put Call on Shemira, Drape / Chalice on Brutus, and eye on Arden!

The low possibility of him critting is worth the attack speed boost!

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@paper wadi Best of luck to you! belindakiss

jade idol
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@wise merlin don't have even the blade, imagine chalice

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also, as i said, everything dies everywhere :c, lemme open the game again

wise merlin
#

Trying something else won't hurt, you know, this game is all about trial and error ^^ don't be worked up from failing from time to time

jade idol
#

bro, to get unstuck from 15-40 i tried for 9 hours with no rest, if i didnt tried everything i wouldn't come here

wise merlin
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Ah well you are quite underlevelled, think you could get to at least 160?

jade idol
#

Yes, i was thinking that, the cons of rushing is that i've got more and more underleved :c

wise merlin
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Then give yourself some time off, farm more, and try everything to could possibly come up with ^^

I have faith in you 🙂

ivory breach
vale wasp
#

stuck exactly on the same level 😄 (17-36)

ivory breach
#

hehe

gritty sail
tepid sentinel
wet kestrel
brisk heart
woven lichen
#

@teal hinge Arden isn’t as useful for wrizz. Add in twins and Rowan for Lyca and Arden.

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@brisk heart shemira, Rosa, Lucius, fawkes, Arden?

brisk heart
#

I'll try it a few times and see how it goes

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getting eaten alive so far. I think Ferael is really fucking with me by not allowing any of my heroes to ult

woven lichen
#

@idle oriole can try Nemora top to charm Arden.

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@brisk heart can try nara on Ferael then

brisk heart
#

Who should I substitute?

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Fawkes is getting Ferael with his coffin sometimes, but it doesn't seem to be making much difference.

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I think the Isabella is hitting me hardest

woven lichen
#

@pale kettle
Nemora
-shemira
Lyca/tasi
-Lucius
Tasi/lyca?

brisk heart
#

Nara isn't helping much. I'm just getting absolutely melted lol

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Keep me from doing much of anything and simultaneously just delete my health bar

woven lichen
#

Fawkes is good for getting rid of the spirits and hopefully coffins isabelle or shemira

brisk heart
#

yeah he only coffins Ferael. Is it random?

woven lichen
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Usually highest attack. Guess Ferael is strongest in that line-up

brisk heart
#

rip

woven lichen
#

Not sure if twins will work for you but...
Rosa
-shemira
Fawkes
-Lucius
Twins
The twin link should boost Lucius and shemira

brisk heart
#

yeah Ferael is the boss. And got it, I'll try that one now

trim yacht
#

Gb 80 just tears my team to shreds

woven lichen
#

@trim yacht May want to use grezhul or more tanks instead of isabelle. Mainly want to delay until shemira ults

brisk heart
#

I did it! Finally! Shemira clutched it! thank you @woven lichen

woven lichen
#

@brisk heart nice job! 😀

brisk heart
#

man. Finished chapter 15, did a 10 pull and got a double Elite and pulled my first Rowan. You love to see it.

trim yacht
#

Think I am level gated

woven lichen
#

Wow nice... a party that I used a lot was Rosa, Rowan, Lucius, and shemira @brisk heart

trim yacht
#

The thanes are just unfair with ezizh's cheat energy gain

brisk heart
#

Not sure if Rowan will be useful at regular Elite, but I'll try that out

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he's mostly just for buffs anyway I think so it shouldn't be too bad

woven lichen
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@trim yacht yeah you might be level blocked... usually every 20 or 30 stages is a really tough one

trim yacht
#

I expected this

white birch
steel atlas
#

Maybe try Lucius, Brutus in front and Shemira, Belinda and Tasi in the back?

craggy sparrow
normal token
woven lichen
#

@craggy sparrow L240 shemira doesn’t work?

Fawkes
-shemira
Rowan
-Brutus
Tasi ?
(Tasi with lowest def)

pseudo canyon
woven lichen
#

@normal token saveas and Arden. They are much easier to get to L+ than other heroes and care quite powerful when under L160. Athalia... is too hard to ascend early on. Mirael is better than Belinda earlier on too

pseudo canyon
#

First impressions? Is that good progress for day 1

woven lichen
#

@pseudo canyon it’s not bad. Team composition will change a lot with more pulls. Definitely want to get saveas stronger if possible. He carries most people until L160

pseudo canyon
#

I had him lvl 40 but switched him out because of his self-lifesteal

woven lichen
#

@pseudo canyon your line-up is fine. It’s more that once you get him to a higher ascension, his self life steal hastes himself and then he heals back up pretty quickly.... so he is known to be able to tank, kill, and heal if he is 20 levels higher than your other heroes

pseudo canyon
#

I have two healers rn

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Should i boost level one hero like that? Noticed in pvp people who did that would rekt me

oak lance
normal token
#

@woven lichen yikes i think i used melinda to fodder into lucuius

woven lichen
#

@normal token that’s not a problem. Mirael is supposed to be used as fodder anyways. Mirael, Angelo, Hogan, Morvus are supposed to be used to ascend lightbringer heroes. But, at lower levels, it is ok to use them for progress and then feed them to other heroes when they are no longer useful

normal token
#

the thing is . my mind be like epic heroes > blues

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i also need a better healer right?

woven lichen
#

@normal token ascended heroes tier heroes are always better than legendary tier heroes after L160. Before that, legendary heroes can be better... saveas and Arden in particular.

Yes, a healer like Nemora, Rowan, Rosa would be helpful. Saveas can self-heal though so most people like to use him

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@pseudo canyon yeah overleveling a hero will help a lot.

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@oak lance try Rowan and Rosa instead of lyca and tasi? Could potentially use athalia on saveas/Ferael too

oblique gale
#

if someone can help me against that satranod

woven lichen
#

@oblique gale guessing your have all heroes already?

Gwyn/Ferael
-twins
Rowan
-Lucius
Rosa/athalia
?

oblique gale
#

Ye rosowo
I'll try that, thanks!

woven lichen
#

@oblique gale can probably try swapping Rowan and twins too. Assuming Ferael is better than Gwen due to so many lightbringer and preventing ult by shemira. But Gwen with eye can shoot/stun down shemira/Morvus too

oblique gale
#

Well, i don't have a good Gwen so ye, i'll try with Ferael instead.

split kindle
slate swift
limpid quail
#

@slate swift try
arden
brutus
nemora
shemira
lyca
nemora has to charm ferael otherwise it wont work, and arden should not root him so he can kill his own team. requires some good rng to work

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@split kindle saveas or khasos are you best choices right now for carry. you also want to build a support with CC like arden. also recommend to read the pinned messages guide in here and #classic-questions

harsh frost
limpid quail
#

@pale kettle i would say make L+ hogan (with mirael fodder) and put him frontline for tasi. maybe arden for nemora or lyca if he doesnt die instantly

daring matrix
#

Any suggestion for heroes with Soren generally?

merry ferry
pale kettle
robust storm
primal bridge
#

Who should I use for Soren?
I've been running:
Rosa

Shem
Baden
Lucius
Saveas

I've been getting decent rewards but I think it could be better, just don't know how exactly.

solid flame
#

Hoe is this game not broken xD . After 45 seconds these 3 heroes did not do almost any dmg :/

robust storm
#

Current lineup. Any suggestions from higher level players appreciated.

warped peak
#

The closest I have gotten to beating this team is with this team... Any suggestions as to whom I should switch out?

harsh frost
#

Anyone found out how to go through that ice shit in the new voyage?

gritty sail
pale kettle
#

Should I use safiya to make Brutus legendary?

#

Never use an ascended hero to feed another ascended hero unless they are ascended+5 stars

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So to answer your question, no

worthy bane
#

@harsh frost explain a bit more. I did the entire voyage, just wanna see what part

pale kettle
#

@pale kettle okay.. what do i to increase Belinda's critical rate?

novel adder
worthy bane
#

I got it, thank you for the help!

pale kettle
#

@pale kettle better equipment

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@pale kettle thanks for the help

woven lichen
#

@harsh frost if you mean the fire shrine that turns into ice... you need to use Talene for that fight

spark lake
cerulean hamlet
#

@inland kite
Tasi

  • Brutus/Lucius if he survives to ult
    Nemora
  • Shemira
    Lyca
#

@spark lake
Nemora

  • Lyca
    Tasi
  • Brutus
    Shemira
    Try that? Make sure Nem has good enough boots so she can charm arden before he roots
spark lake
#

Thanks man

proven thunder
inland kite
#

shemira is starting to pull through for me but yeah brutus at least took a few hits before he died, not ulting though @cerulean hamlet did manage to pass it

cerulean hamlet
#

You don't need brutus to ult, his whole role is just to survive to buy the rest of your team a bit of time

inland kite
#

yeah brutus is stuck at legendary for me i think

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yeah legit legendary

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i think i got one more nemora till i can get her ascended

#

who does silvina target again, lowest defense?

cerulean hamlet
#

lowest defense mage

inland kite
#

yeah its a rip my nemora is so low, even put the highest gear on her and shes still lower than tasi and shemira lol

cerulean hamlet
#

@proven thunder
Arden

  • Saveas
    Lyca
  • Lucius
    Tasi

How does that go?

proven thunder
#

my saveas melts from the AI saveas

gleaming nacelle
inland kite
#

i say keep trying cause arden can root saveas

gleaming nacelle
#

Help please ❤️ wilder back line doesn't work

proven thunder
#

but can the root overlay with banish? cus my tasi always banishes saveas

inland kite
#

thats just rng, just keep trying or switch their positions so tasi might target someone else

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wilders are extremely rng dependant

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i would know i used to run a pure wilder lightbearer team

cerulean hamlet
#

@gleaming nacelle It'd be easiest to use Nemora + Lyca to try charm their ferael so he fears his own team. Also don't bother with Tasi
Nemora

  • Brutus
    Lyca
  • Shemira
    Arden

Maybe?

proven thunder
#

i got it, with lucious replaced with brutus

inland kite
#

tasi is interrupted anywhere i put her

cerulean hamlet
#

@inland kite
Tasi

  • Shemira
    Lyca
  • Brutus
    Arden/Nemora

If she doesn't die fore she ults and shem ults too it should be okay after some tries

inland kite
#

arden gets like 3 roots off before tasi can even get one banish

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so im doing shemira, brutus front then arden lyca and nemora back

cerulean hamlet
#

Tasi banish isn't integral, it's moreso her ult

inland kite
#

she doesnt even get her ult up

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tasi dies then shemira ults every time

cerulean hamlet
#

Then it'd probably just be RNG for favorable teleports and such

next blaze
#

20-4

inland kite
#

aww shemira almost pulled it off

cerulean hamlet
#

@next blaze Can you post the rest of your roster? Also if you can get Shemira to 240 by resetting belinda (well, you'd still want bel 180 first) you should do that as she's a better carry to overlevel at your stage

next blaze
cerulean hamlet
#

Hm, your options seem a bit limite since you don't have an arden but definitely reset belinda so your shemira is your highest level first.

Then:
Tasi

  • Brutus/Lucius
    Lyca
  • Shemira
    Arden/Nemora
    The backline ascensions don't really matter
pine cedar
coral pier
#

@pine cedar Level that legendary+ saveas as high as you can. He deals insane damage at that stage of the game.

pale kettle
#

Hey guys, looking for some help with what I should run for Labyrinth. I know itll rotate with factions but maybe a few reliable go to members or combos would really help me understand more.

woven lichen
#

@pine cedar the lineup looks fine.... adding Rowan would help to make it a team that works well in the endgame... but at your level, saveas would probably work out better and then shemira after L160

pine cedar
#

My damage dealer is Belinda

coral pier
#

@pine cedar Well I would recommend using saveas since he is so much better at it at that point

inland kite
pale kettle
#

Saveas is generally regarded as the best carry in early game, though Belinda is really great. i used her as my carry before i got 161 Shem.

pine cedar
#

Thats my carry and rosa is the support for Belinda si she can ult. And fawkes is my support with brutus and lucious as the tanks

pale kettle
#

@inland kite wh-where are all your heroes?

inland kite
#

Idk what happened but I passed it woot

coral pier
#

@pale kettle Lucius+Rowan is a good combo in lab because that makes your team very tanky. So the team can be something like : Lucius-Brutus-Arden-Rowan-Belinda/Gwyneth

next blaze
inland kite
#

Wow a mirael keeps killing me

pale kettle
#

Thank you @coral pier that helps form the rest of the team as well. Appreciate it.

coral pier
#

@pale kettle Arden can be replaced for Saveas for even more damage while keeping your faction bonus. Do that if you dont feel like you don't need arden to live

inland kite
pale kettle
#

@inland kite have you tried Nem in the middle to try and charm her? or use any type of CC on her?

inland kite
#

She gets banished but then tasi dies after

coral pier
#

Have you tried with lucius instead of brutus?

inland kite
#

Instant death

coral pier
#

What about putting tasi frontline instead of brutus and rowan back middle?

inland kite
#

Woah lucius dying actually saved me

coral pier
#

Task failed succesfully lol

inland kite
#

LOL tasi took out an isabella

pale kettle
#

that's my girl tasssi

inland kite
#

Look it's good luck for me to link here, anytime I have I've beaten it xd

pale kettle
#

those L's are an eyesore brutus

cerulean hamlet
#

@inland kite
Tasi

  • Shemira
    Lyca
  • Brutus
    Nemora

Also who does silv jump on?

inland kite
#

Tell my rng to stop giving me bad heroes and I'll upgrade some L

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And I passed it, silv goes on nemora, I've given her the highest gear I can and she still has lowest def

pale kettle
#

@inland kite you shouldn't have ascended those heroes to L anyways.

cerulean hamlet
#

Ah, well gj! The legendary thing though is mostly about the scenario where you don't pull enough to get them to L+ getting them stuck. That's why it's recommended to not make A tier heros L unless you can do L+

inland kite
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Oh well I did, nothing i can do now shrugs* it's just always gonna be eyesores

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Saying I shouldn't doesnt really do anything lol not really at all

cerulean hamlet
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Yeah, nothing to be done about it for now. So you work with what you have

coral pier
#

Well maybe someday they will be eyesores with ascended borders

pale kettle
#

@coral pier that took you so long to get lmao

inland kite
#

This is my first account, its had quite a bit of screw ups

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But luckily I've managed to pull it back quite a bit

coral pier
#

@pale kettle Idk maybe I should go to sleep already

inland kite
warped peak
#

Please help.. I ran this like 50 times and idk what to do with the crazy burst that mehira does later..

inland kite
#

Cmon lineup post luck :P

pale kettle
#

@warped peak chap/level

warped peak
#

What?

pale kettle
#

i'm asking for your chapter and level

cerulean hamlet
#

@inland kite Do you have an Arden?
Tasi

  • Shemira
    Lyca
  • Brutus
    Arden
    Would be ideal
warped peak
#

Oh, 9-32... level 63

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@pale kettle

inland kite
#

they aint dealing enough damage for shemira to stay alive

cerulean hamlet
#

You could try swapping the position of Brutus and Shemira but otherwise it looks like it's just RNG

inland kite
#

shemira is just not dealing enough damage to kill even one

cerulean hamlet
#

...There's a limited amount of things you can do about that other than time and maybe try getting better gear on her

inland kite
#

if i can just get rid of that ulmus

odd python
#

maybe try putting your nemora across from enemy nemora and go for the double charm, have arden in another slot to root, ie backline arden lyca nemora

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another thing if youre desperate is resetting nemora to 180 crystal for brutus 200? not sure how much of a difference that would make

inland kite
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my brutus is only L

odd python
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oh right i forgot thats a thing lol

inland kite
#

nothing i can do with taht, i havent pulled a single brutus in like 4-5 months

odd python
#

yeah you just have to play around with cc and see how it@goes i guess

inland kite
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yep its rng fest when it comes to wilders

warped peak
#

So wait.. were yall talking to me or kanonno-

inland kite
#

its suzie talking to you, so they're talking to me

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all i need is one more nemora and ill have ascended

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then a morvus L+ to get him mythic plus

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to get lucius m plus i mean

gleaming nacelle
#

Help

woven lichen
#

@gleaming nacelle you might be too under leveled or ascended if your support dies that fast... need Nemora or Arden to at least charm or root Ferael... can Lucius tank top and shield in time?

Can also try lb instead though Ferael would do more damage...

Lucius
-Rosa
Rowan
-Shemira
Fawkes/Arden

oak lance
woven lichen
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@oak lance what is stopping you? Saveas killing you? No energy due to Ferael? Does shemira ult?

You could try fawkes instead of athalia. Can cancel Brutus’ invulnerability and make it 5v4

wide wasp
#

Lyca
...Brutus
Nemora
...Shemira
Tasi/Arden/Rosaline

Spam retry until nemora charms ferael. If ferael gets his fear off before charm lands even with lyca haste, put dura's call or +4 mythic boots on nemora to give her more haste. If tasi banishes ferael try swap her out with arden and try get arden to root both tanks + numisu. I don't really think rosaline will work but you can always try i suppose. I don't see Lucius being needed to beat that stage so don't fixate on him too much. @oak lance

maiden gull
#

Im getting so tilted, every 4 levels Im getting stuck for days here.

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I feel like my lineup REALLY needs tank...

cerulean hamlet
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@maiden gull Building a saveas and having him at level 160 would help, otherwise you'd probably want Talene on the front if you're going to use her

maiden gull
#

My best Save is Rare+...

cerulean hamlet
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Mh, there are other options but Sav would've been the best. Maybe a Brutus or Hogan?

maiden gull
#

I don't have Brutus, my best Hogan is R

cerulean hamlet
#

I mean, in that case there's not much you can do... just keep leveling and working on them as you get copies :/

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Shemira to M and level 161 I suppose should be your goal

wheat forum
maiden gull
#

So I'm just screwed for a month... @cerulean hamlet 😦

cerulean hamlet
#

Mh, not quite. Your progress will just be a bit slower until you get a proper carry

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@wheat forum
Move Saveas to the frontline and Belinda to the back line
Belinda

  • Saveas
    Arden
  • Hogan
    Shemira
maiden gull
#

I guess not the end of the world I made two alt accounts to play with my girlfriend and f2p i guess ill just focus on those

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Is it worht resetting my Thane and dumping a ton of stuff to 140 my Shemira or a different carry?

wheat forum
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@cerulean hamlet atm I cant really progress im completely stuck

cerulean hamlet
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@maiden gull Sure, Thane falls off super hard anyways so focusing on Shemira is your best bet if you can't get Sav before 160 as well as past 160

maiden gull
#

I was told Thane is fine until level 240 and he's been my carry thus far Do you mind if I link you all my heroes to work on a possible different comp

cerulean hamlet
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@wheat forum Just wait for more copies of sav and keep leveling then it shouldn't take too long to progress early

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Sure, go ahead. That's what this channel is for ``

maiden gull
wheat forum
#

@cerulean hamlet what should I be doing in the mean time? Just waiting?

cerulean hamlet
#

More or less yeah, maybe clear as much as you can in king's tower and so/lab/voyage anything really

fast nacelle
cerulean hamlet
#

@maiden gull
Mh, considering what you have I think you'd probably just want to focus on LBs (and Shem I suppose), something like Shemira - Rosaline - Fawkes - Some LB tank - (Rowan)/Mehira perhaps

maiden gull
#

ok bit of an overreaction

cerulean hamlet
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Well, that'd be what you'd want for the tank slot xD

maiden gull
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Yeah holy hell, as I was typing "I'd love a Lucius

cerulean hamlet
#

@fast nacelle Saveas for now, also Arden

fast nacelle
#

Kk yea got him first 10 bomb

maiden gull
#

I got a "Chest of Wishes" what should I select from it

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Also I'm now sad I can't use my Lucius for 24 hours until I have a crystal spot 😭

fast nacelle
#

Should i make shemira mythic asap or hold off till team is overall stronger

wheat forum
#

@cerulean hamlet yeah I’ve completed all I can atm and I’m just at a stand still until I get more savs

cerulean hamlet
#

Making her mythic ASAP is what you want to do considering her main powespike is at 161

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@wheat forum Just wait then

fast nacelle
#

Kk just need food lol

lofty stump
maiden gull
#

@cerulean hamlet lineup revamped until I can drop Thane for Lucius on Crystal

lofty stump
#

Need help with lineup

cerulean hamlet
#

You can put shemira on frontline, otherwise Thane in front of where Saveas would attack and hope for dodge @maiden gull

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@lofty stump
Shemira

  • Lucius
    Rowan
  • Brutus
    Fawkes
    How does that go?
lofty stump
#

I'll try it. Thanks @cerulean hamlet

maiden gull
#

So you do agree with dropping Thane for Lucius and running Lucius + Shem Front Fawkes Belinda Rosaline back?

cerulean hamlet
#

Yeah, Lucius would be fairly helpful I think

maiden gull
#

I just beat the level I was stuck on, holy shit Shem as a carry is busted.

soft yacht
lofty stump
#

@cerulean hamlet almost beat it. Just gotta let RNG take over now. Thanks

boreal rivet
#

Who should i use for my squad

tawny jewel
#

@boreal rivet make nemora l+ and use:
Nemora lucius brutus saveas rownan

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@boreal rivet they should all be lvl 80 and saveas lvl 120 so reset shemira and nemora, take nemora to lvl 80, take saveas as high as possible and put brutus in crystal

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@boreal rivet you can also use hogan instead of brutus

spare crypt
#

Hello everybody can you help me please

#

I need help for this level

still oar
#

Try
Arden

Shem
Lyca(luc)

Nemora(lyca)
Luc(nemora)
Try charm grezhul and chain Shem @spare crypt

novel adder
#

@tawny jewel lets do it here..
yeah looks alright.. give it some tries.. 🙂 with your levels i think you definitely should be able to do it with some good rng

tawny jewel
#

@novel adder good rng ---> key words :(

novel adder
#

haha almost every stage needs some good rng.. but i'd say yours would be fairly reasonable..

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who does your tasi banish though?

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try swap her position with lyca.. since she will probably be delayed up top when ogi does his smash

tawny jewel
#

@novel adder okay. She banishes tasi which is nice. Also my nem isnt fast enough to charm arden

oak lance
limpid quail
#

@oak lance use nemora instead of rosa and put her mid to charm ferael

languid ivy
violet pecan
#

Ascend and lvl up. You currently have 3 dmg dealers... you should have 1 main 1/2 tank and 2/3 supports

pale kettle
lofty depot
#

Try Warek frontline. I suck at Mauler though so x) @pale kettle

Edit: could also put Saveas top

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@languid ivy level up Saveas. Put Shem away until she is 161. Better team would be Tasi, Saveas, Hogan, Arden and Nemora

pale kettle
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@lofty depot my saveas is lv160 against lv266 enemies

lofty depot
#

Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora

Make Nemora charm enemy Arden so he roots his own team

@pale kettle Wait what floor is that?

pale kettle
#

85 or something

lofty depot
#

Aah okay, yeah honestly I don't know then if my lineup didn't work. My Maulers suck @pale kettle

limpid quail
#

@pale kettle you can try with khasos
khasos
brutus
safiya
warek
saveas/numisu

pale kettle
#

Why would I use a lv160 saveas against lv226

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And both my Numisus are lv1

limpid quail
#

@pale kettle aehm put one numisu in the crystal of course. you just fill all positions for the full faction bonus

topaz aspen
#

khasos' axe starter mows down my lower half of the team. arden's root then block shem from using the ult

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i could also fodder hogan to estrilda and take her straight to A

limpid quail
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@topaz aspen have you tried arden mid and nemora top? when you have athalia to counter arden (even E) then put her against him and see how that goes
nemora
estrilda
arden
shemira
athalia

topaz aspen
#

nvm got lucky with the roots and the previous setup. XD

limpid quail
#

👌

pale kettle
cerulean hamlet
#

@pale kettle Can you post the rest of your lineup too?

pale kettle
#

The rest you mean the other heroes?

cerulean hamlet
#

Yeah

pale kettle
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They are bad heroes but ok

#

Estrilda is a mercenary

cerulean hamlet
#

Hmm, no Rowan.
Maybe you can try
Shemira

  • Lyca
    Mehira
  • Brutus
    Nemora?
steel patrol
pale kettle
#

Lyca, Mehira and Nemora are bad af

limpid quail
#

@steel patrol try
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
arden
requires good rng, also switch lyca and nemora and see how that goes

pale kettle
#

Ok, but Grezhul got much more hp than Brutus

limpid quail
#

@pale kettle brutus gives you guaranteed time due to his immunity skill

cerulean hamlet
#

@pale kettle It's not how good they are for damage, it's the utility for them to buy you enough time for shem to clear the stage. The ascensions of those 3 doesn't matter

pale kettle
#

Well nvm ill just wait for more powder and more ascention lvl thx anyways

cerulean hamlet
#

If grezh manages to live longer go with him, Brutus is just guaranteed time

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Just that at your level it'll take a lot of RNG.

pale kettle
#

Ah ok

steel patrol
#

@limpid quail that definitely helped, this is how it went with the lineup you suggested even though I lost, but Brutus was close to dying, and khasos and the crossbow guy (forget his name) stayed alive with good hp

pale kettle
#

If its just rng i think ill just better wait until my heroes are better

limpid quail
#

@steel patrol who was charmed? did ankhira catch someone in her web? when it was shemira maybe try to switch nemora and lyca, so shemira does continuous damage

silent rover
steel patrol
#

@limpid quail Ankhira didn’t web anyone, and Nemora didn’t try to charm (or at least didn’t do it successfully, she might tried Brutus, but was immune)

limpid quail
#

@steel patrol then just spam try again for some time

steel patrol
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@limpid quail yeah, better rng will help. Arden was doing amazing CC

tall forge
#

Any tips how to pass this? My Shem can survive till the end and it’s a 1v1 against scythe dude but I can’t kill him in time.

limpid quail
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@tall forge when its a 1v1 at the end its doable, just try again

pale kettle
#

why are you holding onto Legendary tier heroes? @tall forge

limpid quail
#

@silent rover please share the exact lineup

tall forge
#

Wdym @pale kettle

steel patrol
#

@limpid quail finally beat it, you’re a god amongst humans. I’m always grateful for your input. Thanks.

pale kettle
#

i mean what i'm saying. there's no point in holding onto Mirael.

tall forge
#

For Saveas I can’t do anything till I actually get a mauler to L+, mirael for crystal although I could replace her with Tasi now and mythic Belinda

limpid quail
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@steel patrol haha that would be great then i would also finally get to pass my stage xD

tall forge
#

Is it a good idea to do that?

limpid quail
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@tall forge in my opionion you are fine for now. sure you have to replace them when you want tp break the level cap of 160, but you still have some time until then. but its not wrong to already plan who you are going to level beyond 160

tall forge
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That’s what I thought too, doesn’t matter if I have mirael in Crystal rn or not. Question is, will Belinda be helpful in any way shape or form?

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Mythic^

pale kettle
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Belinda synergizes well with Rosa and Rowan.

tall forge
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I can’t wait to get one more E+ in GB to ascend my shemira lmao. I only have one Rowan and no Rosaline so that’s a rip

silent rover
limpid quail
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@silent rover you can defeat it, then you will have talene to use for the last part

silent rover
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@limpid quail so in this battle i should use talene ?

limpid quail
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thats the top left camp? then you will get talene after beating it and then take the fight on the right after scroll in front of the pillar, see pinned message in #classic-questions

pale kettle
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Almost done with chapter 15 pls help

random nimbus
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at 5-20 now having estrilda-grezhul-ferael-shemira in my lineup should i use gwyneth or ira any advice?

pale kettle
random nimbus
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Right my bad

steel patrol
sharp egret
steel patrol
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Would:

Lyca
Lucius
Grezhul
Shemira
Arden

Work for 14-40? Edit: It did!

pale kettle
tropic otter
steel patrol
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@fair iron I had Fultsch help me earlier with that. Here’s what I was told “@steel patrol try
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
arden
requires good rng, also switch lyca and nemora and see how that goes”

fair iron
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my arden is lvl 1 epic :S

steel patrol
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@fair iron try Tasi instead of Arden then

fair iron
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not luck..at 1:18 im dead ;p

steel patrol
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Show your damage results

fair iron
steel patrol
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Switch Lyca and nemoras places and try that. Then just give it a few tries, as RNG will make the difference in winning or losing.

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You can thank @limpid quail for the info, I’m just passing it on. Haha.

fair iron
steel patrol
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Here’s what I used...

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Lyca
Lucius
Grezhul
Shemira
Arden.

But since you don’t have Grezhul or Arden, you’ll need people that can CC.

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You and I are pretty much up to the same parts. Inbox me what you had success with on each stage from chapter 15 onward, and I’ll try and do the same so that we can make it through it

white ravine
lofty depot
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@white ravine I wouldn't use both Shemira and Belinda and since you're running LB I'd remove Shemira for rosa and put Rowan in the middle

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For that particular stage though I'm not sure since I belive Silvina will target Rowan (or Rosa? Don't know honestly) and I'm not sure Rowan can handle Silvina and Athalia or even either of them. I'm very unfamiliar with LB so at this point I'm just guessing lol.

My advice was more in general to not use both Shem and Bel and to have Rowan mid, with Rosa replacing Shem.

white ravine
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I'll give it a shot! As yeah since I'm so heavy into LB I figured this stage would be a struggle

stuck lava
lavish pollen
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@white ravine

nara
shemira
lyca/rosa
lucius/nemora
tasi/nemora

Just survive/ dodge athalia burst

pale kettle
glossy pagoda
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I could also go with 180 brutus and 170crystal

west cairn
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borrow a better khasos

tired dagger
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Do u guys think lb support or wilders support is better for shemira carry team? Currently at 14-19

woven lichen
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@pale kettle if athalia doesn’t work, can try nara, Gwen, maybe fawkes.

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@tired dagger better for #classic-questions but either can work depending on who you can ascend higher

pale kettle
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22-14 I’ve hade it so that Shem ults twice which was pretty close to win I’m guna just spam try this unless anyone has any ideas??

woven lichen
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@pale kettle Rosa instead of mehira with shemira?

Shemira
-Rosa
Rowan
-Lucius
Tasi

pale kettle
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Rose is to slow can’t make it to shem b4 one hit

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@woven lichen Nara is getting one shooted, same for fawkes ( who coffin estrilda ) x)

woven lichen
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@pale kettle a different option is to use Nemora then to charm Ferael so that he shoots/scares his own team

pale kettle
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Yes, but she focus grezhul too many time x)
I might try to re-do this chapter till I win

woven lichen
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@pale kettle good luck 🙂

pale kettle
woven lichen
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@pale kettle lol glad it worked drunksi

austere nova
woven lichen
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@austere nova the power gap seems really large... might need more levels or need to grab firebringer and icebringer. You may also need an athalia/nara etc to prevent safiya from putting up the field

steel patrol
woven lichen
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@steel patrol you could try using Nemora to charm Isabelle or Khasos so they do less damage to you. Also gives you healing and faction bonus for wilder

sharp flame
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Man 18-32 is ridiculously hard

ivory breach
steel patrol
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@woven lichen I’ve tried her, but she hasn’t charmed anyone when i tried with her in team for about 30 tries

sharp flame
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@ivory breach Brutus/Shem Lyca Tasi Arden

woven lichen
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@steel patrol hm weird that there isn’t a charm... may want to borrow a tasi. Otherwise maybe Rosa?