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Is this a good mauler team?
@gritty sail yea it's fine for now
@light kite I still get destroyed, does that mean I just have to wait to level my guys up more?
@proper ether Skregg doesn't by any chance tank better than gorvo?
Nah he died faster and no bonus
@proper ether You should get that Arden lvled up and replace Rowan or Nemora with him probably. Have nemora at the top backline so she can charm Saveas. Retry till she does
Okay I'll try that thank you
How to finish this freaking stage
@rugged niche stage number?
@light kite 21-53
@rugged niche a CC team where you focus on killing Ferael and Isabella first
Just charming ferael will help you a lot so you don't get haunted
@rugged niche It worked?
good shit
f yea
Guys anyone good with lightbringers need helo please
@silver forum ask here.
help plz
i like rowan more @silver forum
don't take a hero to L if you can't immediately take them to L+
Am I stuck until 220?
@silver forum right now no one yet.. first thing is avoid making L heroes.. secondly, since you already built belinda and lucius.. what you need is to make L+ fodder like mirael and hogan to feed to belinda.. so that when you want to progress to mythic it will be smoother.. you dont want to feed rowan/rosaline to belinda..
anyone here beat kings tower 300?
@velvet flower i beat it with
Vurk
Numisu
Khasos
Brutus
Warek
basically merc carry warek.. i think 210 warek.. 180 everybody else iirc.. but that was pre-sig update..and required a lot of rng.
But i think a merc khasos with sig unlocked can carry much easier these days
Rosaline is good when it comes to damage she can deal a lot of damage than belinda while rowan do more heal and energy for everyone its a close call honestly
Thanks! I forgot about mercs @novel adder
i still wouldn't ascend either @rugged niche
Okay and any tips for here i tryes many changes but i get melted
21-58 plz help i wont get any sleep if i still ddnt manage to finish this chapter !
@glacial brook could you remind me which one that is?
Yeah, need some help with the Wilder Team
Whenever there's an Arden, it's a good idea to try your own Arden, especially if you can make him root faster, such as if you have lyca
@silver forum i'd try dropping raine for nemora or tasi...
either nemora bottom side or top side to charm morvus or saveas..
with tasi you'd want to rng until morvus shrapnel hits only tasi when she teleport somewhere with no one else.. looks doable with your levels though
@light kite should i use the same formation i used earlier ?
I'd remove the ferael and try that yeah.
I will get melted again
Maybe Nemora top to charm enemy nemora too, not sure which is better. To not get rooted, or to not get charmed
@rugged niche i'd try
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Basically rng until you charm the ferael.. charm + root works too since he will still stun his own team.
Oh shit, I gave advice for @tranquil lake not @rugged niche my bad
@silver forum you have to give each formation about 15 ish tries to see if its doable. its the nature of the game.. some stages require a crap load of retrying for perfect rng.. its the only way to pass while underpowered.
the same formation can die in 3 secs but the very next battle win with everybody full hp
Some comps are also more rng heavy than others. comps with crowd control are especially RNG because of the random targetting
@novel adder it can be fun to try 50+ times and then finally get it :)
Help
Need help with 23-24, not sure how to make Thoran cheese work. Tried for an hour today with various line ups, no go. He gets ultimate off almost every fight
Need some help with 20-30 been stuck here for weeks. Nothing I try seems to work. Either Arden gets me or Ira does.
fkin niru always kills my shemira they will have a 1v1 fight my shemira cant do shit
Any suggestions?
@covert jewel try this formation
Nemora/Arden
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
My go to formation for whenever that specific wilder stage comes up, make sure you get kaz and Arden rooted at the start, will take some retries and rng
Ok guys its unwinnable help or imma cry
Use nara against ira, to stop healreduce, try weither fawkes or rosaline helps more
i tried nara for rosa and she died in 0.2 secs
Only 140crystal instead of 141 is rough, hmmm
Then try
Arden
Lucius/brutus (who survives longer)
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
Thats a lot of rng though
Can’t figure this one out, any suggestions? Kaz Ira and Ogi just do too much dmg
Maybe worth noting if you didn’t notice Rowan doesn’t have his SI yet
Anyone know the best Thoran lineup for 23-24? Stuck here a month...
Help please....
@modern python athalia is real OP late game. Set her up against that Arden or shem. My attempt at helping 😂
Any tips? Seems whoever I put up top just gets completely nuked
@summer hatch even when using Brutus? Could try lyca/tasi with dodge/blink too but probably a lot of tries
Am I going the right direction with this team?
I want to sub athalia for talene when I reach 15k gems by summoning at stargazer. I miss one copy of Lucius and two of Brutus. I have enough to buy Arthur.
@woven lichen yeah his shield gets almost instantly popped and dies shortly after
@summer hatch May want to try tasi/lyca then. Nemora at top may not work that well either her cc can be cancelled by Warek
@frank swift generally don’t want to depend on celestials or hypo for arena unless you will spend big. Need a lot to ascend them. Athalia also isn’t as amazing without her +30 sig. probably would be better to have more support and crowd control units. Rowan, tasi, Nemora etc
I’m a pve player in afk arena. So rn I could sub mythic+ memora for athalia. And maybe switch again only in stages where I need some disruption right?
@woven lichen
@frank swift for pve, the setup you have is too damage heavy. Generally better off having an overleveled carry like shemira, tank and support/crowd control. After everyone is L240 and above, then mix it up a bit... changes to focus more on faction bonus and multiple carries.... Nemora, tasi, Lyca, tank, and shemira/Ferael work well since the support helps to boost the carry which does the most damage. Enemies generally do way more damage than you too so would like to have some healing or crowd control
For disruption, nara would generally work better than athalia since easier to ascend. If you can ascend athalia, then yeah she’s better
Last thing @woven lichen these are my heroes
Only thing that changed is that I got one more copy or Lucius and Brutus in the last 20 summons before this shot. I’m near ascending memore but I don’t have any cc hero. Only got Rowan and Rosa
Rowan and Rosa are fantastic too. Lucius, Rowan, Rosa, shemira/Belinda, and fawkes/tasi works @frank swift
Ty💪🏻
Are hogan and gilus on e+ better tanks than izold and grezul. Also that would my best comp be right now?
It depends on ur and the enemies lineup, generelly u want avoid using tanks that are weak to the opposing faction(s) if possible. Espaccially in early game. Also netting a teambonus when possoble is nice.
Any tips ? :d
I need help with this lineup please. If you have an answer the tag me. Thank you.
@hoary steppe try using more lightbringer like thane instead of Ana. Belinda is ok too
Try Rosa instead of Brutus/Belinda or Nemora instead of Belinda... no faction bonuses on your setup @olive heart
I can’t ascend the carry. I don’t have enough to copies to ascend him. I’ve been stuck on this level for two days haha
Ye i realised too, so do you have dust for the last 101 available?
What’s 101?
The level of ur lowest hero,the uograde to 101 needs hero dust
@woven lichen thanks ill try
Then resetting belinda and niru first, and bringing ogi to 120 and evryone else to the same level for best crystal level, might be the best strategie. Then use
Saveas
Ogi
Mehira
Ulmus
Lyca
as your team
Belinda should be leveled up manually tho, since she has highest ascension. It doesnt matter that she isnt part of the team
newbie here tips appreciated
19-28. Big hard.
What about this one lol
@pastel flame
Twins
-Lucius
Gwen
-Rowan
Ferael
- After twin and ferael ult, Gwyn should be doing massive damage
@lost solstice
Should make sure Silvina jumps on Tasi. Maybe put nemora at bottom to charm isabelle if she isn't banished
@twin hound
Thank you 👍👍
Worked like a charm ;). Thank you @woven lichen
Idk why I die so fast on tower 300. My heroes are level 260 lmao
@lost solstice nice! 😃
@twin hound safiya might be worth trying too. Her field would help against thane and athalia
Lucius
-Rowan
Safiya
-Shemira/Ferael
Rosa
The stages takes some rng though since need Ferael to dodge and stay alive with the original setup
Help! 22-44 https://i.imgur.com/XtX57EV.png
How can I beat this? I’m on my last tear and can’t even kill one.
how do i beat 14-40
@limpid flare try using Rowan and Rosa instead of Nemora and saveas
@brisk heart if you can’t kill even one and are using tears, you may have the wrong relics. Rosa also shouldn’t be so overleveled... makes enemies stronger and she’s not your carry
this is campaign
Figured them all out till here, really think cant pass now
Any help?
@light kite 22 - 44
Hope it helps.
ill try
@olive heart 21 - 42, Always charm fareal generally.
These are my current heroes. Is it worth ascending Goran to legend with these?
I dont know when or even if I can get another lucius/rowan
I can get a legend Ira, Saveas/Vurk/Ankhira and Galon/Angelo
@indigo jolt tried to charm him, it just wont its like
Nemora
----Example
Example
----Example
Example
right?
@olive heart Yes, Nemora should be opposite ferael. Its just a matter of Rng, should land charm at some point, If ferael usually interuppts its, Nemora needs more mspd from gear to land charm first.
Alright thanks!!!! : D
@fallen cliff Ascension questions in #classic-questions .
I believe their is a helpful pinned message their as well regarding early game planning.
Help with 23-10?
Thank you @indigo jolt
@oblique phoenix 23- 10
I have mythic rowan lvl 140 and he’s kinda underwhelming. Does he get really OP at a certain level or something?
#classic-questions @wet kestrel ❤️
I can’t beat this even with merc any help
22-42
@modern bison try
shem
brutus
mehira
tasi
nemora/lyca
Hey guys any general advice for Wilders tower, the current setup has got me to 53. Feel like I need to introduce a tank but only have Elites. Is Kaz worth taking to M post patch?
@odd python I got so close but so far
ty for the help tho ;;
@modern bison keep trying you should be able to get it with those levels. it’s also sorta hard for me to gauge since you have different heroes to mine, but try using the support heroes in different backline slots and see if it makes a difference
@odd python I tried replacing a bunch but skreg just stomps everything
prob been stuck for more than 2 weeks now. Ty for the help tho :”)
@modern bison try using arden
@edgy flower id personally wait for that 4th copy of lyca, since she has a great si at 20. And has selfsustain which is nice, if u pverlevel her for the tower. Speaking of overleveling, can you reach 180nemora and 160crystal or close to it? Maybe not as effectiv as my 180 seirus but could still be handy, if u dont mind the 40diamonds and a periode with weaker arena defs.
Could someone please help I cant pass this.
Hmm
Try putting shemira or rosaline on 1
Saveas on where shemira is
2 Hendrik 4 maybe arden
@pale kettle 🤔
Thx man @plain light 
@pale kettle if it works 😂👌
It did thx bb
Okay, did just put Shemira on lvl 180..
So you cleared it with that?
Who should I be focusing on and is this the best lineup I can have right now?
Yes I did
is there a general rule of thump of how to counter gollus? hes too tank, my saveas cant kill him fast enough
You clear the other side first or poison and bleed him.
Try
Nemora
Lyca(brut)
Arden(tasi)
Brutus (lyca)
Saveas
Charm ankhira @proven thunder
thanks, it worked
I only have an E rosa rn, I sacrificed my L+ so that I could go from level 200 crystal to 245
It was just out of impatience but Im fine with it
:l hmm i used shem + ferael at tht stage in my ss
oh yeah I have terrible fereal luck mine is only L+
this is also wht someone used could try to use lucius instead of brutus
he did it with basically lvl 0 sigs on all of them
hmm, maybe that could work? the issue is my lyca and tasi arent that strong
maybe wilder support team with brutus and shemira if u have tasi @gleaming nacelle
[18-36] any ideas? Im kinda stuck waiting for fodder but it wont be short until i get 5 mythics to level
@heady wave try
tasi
brutus
lyca
shemira
nemora
Hey guys, we got arthur with the last release and I got a question in terms of buy strategy.
Iam rn at around 30+k labcoins. I need 20 more runs for the 100runs challenge which gives another 45k
I also have a Rayne that just needs 2 more copies and one more l+ to get to ascendant (would be my 6th ascendant and my highest heroes are between 200 and 240.
Shall I just go for Arthur or get the Rayne copies?
She is also not the only hero I get to ascendant, but the only guaranteed lightbearer
@gentle cargo thats more for #classic-questions since its not really lineup related. arthur is more of a lategame hero since he get ascension and level of his fused hero. you should get more heroes to A first imo
Anybody has their lineup with wich they beat 22-44
@idle oriole try
nemora
brutus
lyca
shemira
tasi/arden
22-56
@fierce wadi idk if someone answered your question but arden is the old goat with a crystal staff in wilders
and he's a recommended early game hero, since he can go up to L+ (legendary +) easier compared to ascended tier, and has very good CC (crowd control)
put him instead of safya?
are you familiar with game terms or should i annotate everything? also safiya probably doesnt work well while weak since she dies off fairly early before her ult can be cast
Please help
i know some of the terms
I tryed with replacing all combinstions i just getting melted
@fierce wadi try using arden and saveas (mauler dps) as soon as possible along with your mehira
And if replace lb i just insta die
if, within the short period your skreg doesnt work out well then try replacing it with gorvo since the faction boost should help a bit
okay thank you
@silver forum i would imagine the problem is the bottom gets wiped out too quickly coz of estrilda charge and aoe from morvus and mirael... so maybe swap raine for arden, put rowan in middle and rosaline nearer to belinda.
is gorvo considered to bebetter that skreg
rowan should help lucius hold out until shield is ready, hopefully saveas doesnt murder belinda before her ult gets cast. if she casts it twice before the mirael ult i believe you should win
gorvo and skreg does different things, since gorvo jumps into enemy backline to CC them, while skreg CC a bit until it pushes everyone to backline and wait for strong AOE to finish the job.
what if i replace safya with gorvo
then have skreg and gorvo as front? assuming you are preparing for PvP (since it looks like arena), that might not work out well since gorvo isn't quite an early game hero, especially without 4th skill, and will easily die right after landing in enemy camp. after that, well, your team lacks some burst kill element, so if shemira gets taken out early then your team is as good as dead. on the other hand if you put strong support for shemira and let her hold out until ult is ready... winning isnt hard
shemira works well with CC teams since her ulti basically takes time to kill, and before lv 161 she is super vulnerable when placed against enemies of same level, since her ult leech is burst, unlike the lv161 upgrade that changes it to regeneration
first off, sorry but your ascension is looking a bit gloomy
yeah I know that's why I started a new one :(
well if you want to solve this one, i believe having a tank/CC on the lower 3 should work better than aiming for the top. a quick kill on top should work better since that bloodsucker is a bloody pain when left till the end
cant quite see the rest of the lineup, but looks like you've got an estrilda, so i would try to pit her against vedan and ankhira. the charge is a good way to stop vedan from gaining energy
idk this looks quite tough since the levelling is also all over the place
my advice is to drop eironn's level at rickety cart then bring lucius' level up so rosaline can follow him instead, and just put the rest on silvina for now since you can fodder her easily and get back those resources
she'll probably target the arkadios at the back and hopefully kill him before she dies.
6-32
Been stuck here for a while. The enemy spear thrower kills everyone and I can’t kill the centaur to get to the spear thrower.
@cobalt helm try
nemora
hogan
shemira
golus
arden
Didn’t work
was thinking front shemira hogan, back mehira rowan nemora
Like this?
i think shemira at 81 isnt tanky enough against saveas
Yes she died in less than 15 seconds
switch mehira and nemora? at least nemora can keep glus away for a bit
my plan with the previous lineup was that nemora charms him, so he attacks golus. does she even charm anyone? otherwise switch her with arden so the top side is rooted
nemora charms front row more often imo
No she died too quickly. I lost in about 15 seconds ful.
I’ll try that shoko
thats why you shouldnt say after 1 try it doesnt work. its all rng based
hahaha try each possible composition for 10 runs each and if any of them comes close to killing of 3 enemies then it's worth trying again
Ooooo it worked shoko! Thank you both of you!! I tapped over the stats page by accident. I wanted to rewatch it 😦
oh wow i actually did not expect it to work that fast. good job team
Need help, stuck on this stage. Saveas and the scythe guy are untouchable.
I’ll remember that next time to try more tries 🙂
Help please
Its quite annoying. Mirael 140 with rosaline loses to vedan. but vedan 140 loses to Saveas. Any ideas, besides waiting for 141carry, or using merc? I could put nara on crystal, but she could only deal with the 3rd most annoying unit aka ankhira.
Need help stuck
@gleaming nacelle did you try wilder backline?
lyca
shemira
nemora
lucius
tasi
tasi with lowest def for silvina
@glossy pagoda try
nemora
vedan
arden
brutus
tasi
@shy crag arden belinda front doesnt work at all i think
lyca
brutus/lucius
nemora
shemira
tasi/lorsane/arden if you have them, dont know you full pool
@limpid quail
the charm of nemora has to hit ferael, if not retry until it does. all other tries are meaningless and probably wont succeed
Best fight with vedan so far was
Arden
vedan(eye)
Nemora(call)
Brutus(grace)
Tasi
But still lost a 1vs3 against saveas and greens in the end. Meanwhile mirael can wipe everyone but vedan and then always dies befor rosa is full again.
@glossy pagoda is a screenshot missing? the last lineup you asked had no greens and which rosa?
Well i meaned blood snarl and ardios, and i also tried alot of
Rosaline
Vedan
Mirael(140)
Rowan
Izold
Which often resulted in the mentioned szenario
That is such an strong enemies lineup...
Try lyca nemora arden backline, to get them rooted twice
22-58 help
@lament birch reset one of your 220’s and get Shem to 240. 240 Shem is ridic
Maybe arden lyca nemora works here, if nemora charms Ferael
anyone on here that i should be using more? all of them have basically maxed out mythic gear with their faction on it
Well lucius is in my opinion the best frontile in the game so you might want to consider making him your next 240 @torpid quest
Because level 160 is their max level, and they have all there abilities unlocked by then, #classic-questions would be the better place to discus this though.
Well currently i got grezhul and brutus front lucius middle back and i got sehmira and lyca
Honestly I would try replacing brutus with lucius and then putting a graveborn or a celestial back line so you can get a faction bonus. @torpid quest
@pale kettle Maybe replace lyca with athalia to counter the arden
@pale kettle just move ur nemora to where lyca is and keep trying till she charms Arden
Athalia worked :)
Athalia is very often a great problem solver against cc units
Suggestions?
@sharp egret If arden is the problem maybe replace tasi with athalia so you can counter arden + get a faction bonus
@wraith viper If you have rowan maybe try replacing hogan with shemira and then putting rowan back middle
@wraith viper use nemora to charm ferael, and put your damage to the bottom side to kill niru fast
tasi
lucius
nemora
shemira
lyca
Any suggestions
19-20 help if u can if not thats okay too
@west depot try
nemora
brutus
lyca
shemira
arden
or nemora bottom and tasi top instead of arden
@wraith viper most of the time nemora is the key against ferael
@carmine orbit use nemora to charm ferael
arden/tasi
brutus/lucius
nemora
shemira
lyca
any tips for kt 275 floor?
@wicked pelican
Lyca
- Shemira
Arden - Lucius/Brutus
Tasi
Maybe, Arden to root both tasis would be ideal
This lvl is broken
@west depot Did you try countering arden with athalia?
@coral pier Arden is the least of my problems the fuckin thane and athalia rinse me
Maybe try: Frontline Tasi-Shemira Backline: Nemora-Brutus-Athalia @west depot
@west depot try arden bottom or top to root athalia after she jumps into you backline
Any help?
So my brother hasn't been able to play for 3 months now, everytime he loads the game and goes to battle or do something else the game immediately closes. He has tried everything including reinstalling game and resetting his phone, nothing worked. I then allowed him to try on my phone did same thing then I went on my account and it didn't do it to me only his account. And I logged into my account on his phone and I was fine he logged back into his account but the game closed. So could someone please help figure this out we tried everything.
@primal tartan You could try sending a support ticket and see if the devs can help you. Also this should be asked in #classic-questions
Nope, this should be reported in #bug-reports. But either way, you'd have to either send in a support ticket in-game or on facebook with proof so they can help you sort it out.
any ideas? need help pls
Anyone got 23-19?
@broken egret Eironn instead of lyca to pull in ferael
ye ill give that some more tries and hope it helps @coral pier
@broken egret If his pull keeps getting interrupted try using dura's call on him because it gives movement speed and allows you to pull faster
@coral pier ye ill try it, been down to just niru 1 or 2 times with some comp, but than he decides to ult and bam 100% to 0 1 hit
@west depot I could do that immediately but I want to safe 20k dust for my ascended brutus
@west depot even got it with 234 shem
@broken egret 23 19 Hope it helps
@indigo jolt thanks ill try it
how to beat this in rancid forest? seems unfair to me
@indigo jolt i havent tried yet, but did your mehira get her ulti off or just insta die?
Died to silv, fairly sure.
@teal dust does Rowan instead of Nemora help? Faction bonus and instant healing to help with burst
@woven lichen it doesn't
Someone a good lineup for wrizz and soren ?
@teal dust might need to pick better artifacts or gain levels then
@teal dust Did you trigger as few symbols as possible (5blue one green i think)
i did it btw guys
thx for anyone willing to help
Lucius-Shemira-Belinda-Rosaline-Raine/Nemora should work pretty well @pale kettle
If you have rowan its also very good instead of Raine/Nemora
@pale kettle lineup similar to Laku but you can try twins for Nemora/Raine
Yeah twins are super good if they dont die too fast at that ascension
The linking should give more damage already so that’s a good boost. Could have shemira and Belinda in front. Lucius supporting whichever mage is weaker
@teal dust nice one 🙂
i thought it would be impossible to clear with my levels, thx btw
i did trigger every symbols and it make the boss lvl 300, i guess i'm just lucky to be able clear this
Someone good lineup vs Wrizz and campaing?
Ye i had to restart it for easier boss, back then, because his ult killed everyone. Good job
Try
Fawkes
Hendrik
Rowan
Hogan
Saveas
Fawkes should coffin the khasos so saveas can go for morvus Face asap. Maybe also reset some heroes to 121 So that saveas is 160 Or close to it and only your tanks are around 140 too, fawkes and rowan do work in low level too
I try it thanks 🙏🏻
And remember for those stages, u never want to go for golus with saveas first
What is golus 😅
Welp, this level is.... Hard
@coral pier ur setup is not gonna work eironn pulls wrong way cause of silv dash
Did you try placing the silvina target as far away as possible from eironn? @broken egret
@glossy pagoda thanks I almost passed the level. A tried it 2 times , and it's alwasy seavas vs 2. I have to enhance, and level up and it will be good. Thanks🙏🏻🙏🏻😄
If u have nara she could be a good replacement for fawkes here, she is a good counter for mirael
Im stuck
Nobody? 
Any help?
Any help
change the positions of lucius and brutus
getting smashed at 21-10..here's my lineup. should i reset Rowan to 180 and push Lucius to 220?
I would. Lucius is way more stat reliant than rowan @austere nova
i'll give it a try, reset Rowan to 180... was able to push Lucius to 214 though...
Need help KT 290
17-35 hard stuck, sacrifice L+ Arden to make M Nemora??
Not sure what to do here. Shemira dies super fast wherever i put her. Feel like i need nemora bottom for saveas and arden/tasi middle since backline top gets targeted by vurk.
@sharp flame No, arden is good up untill like chapter 22 i think?
Then keep leveling Shemira I guess
If he has an E+ spare arden, its quite save to fodder the L+ one id say
Making Nemora L+->M will give him nothing tho
Ye another character probaply more helpful
NVM I just passed it got lucky with Tasi jumping to Shems back
Be prepared for 17-40. Way harder then anything else in 17
@glossy pagoda now I am there hehe
Maybe you can use my linup for it @sharp flame
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Belinda (180)
Help wilder back line didn't work made it way worse
@glossy pagoda no Fawkes hehe
Uh then 5lb wont work, i got mine from challenger Shop, but i can c why people would like to go for another option there
@mossy kelp Why arent u leveling ur shemira?
I don't have the dust to do it
@vale flax
How about
Fawkes
Lucius/ Thoran
Rowan
Shemira
Athalia?
ok ty
Even if u reset brutus and lucius to 180? @mossy kelp
I can try I don't know if this helps me tho...
If possible only Brutus, hes less reliant on stats compared to lucius
@glossy pagoda got it easily with this
Overleveling your carry def helps you, lol. If you get your shem from 200 to 220, thats so much better than having 3 200s
Nice
Ye if he needs to reset both then both ofcourse, probaply shemira and brutus should be the frontline then
Now try the standard
Shemira, brutus, wilder trio
Thx worked
Glad it helped 🙂
Can anyone tell me if I should pull graveborn for Shem fodder or do lb?
I would not do faction pulls just for fodder at that point of the game. I would recommend LB. @lapis wharf
Wouldnt it be better for him to focus on wilders for now?
You get some gb fodder from gb tower 20 and 60, if u havent already
If I had to choose I would pick Lightbearers every time. I think they are better, thats just my opinion tho. @carmine cloud
I currently choose wilders all the time, but i have 7 tasi and 6 seirus, thats why
What should i focus on leveling?
😮 so lb or wilder
@lapis wharf I would go for LB
@coral pier Its just that the only real LB hero he has is Lucius and Belinda (which he is not going to use untill shemira falls off).
Wherever you plan to build 2 of your 5 first ascended id say
@carmine cloud The wilder situation isnt in that much of a better place either in terms of copies so either one can work.
I guess, but isnt LB kinda meh mid-game compared to wilder trio? If your main carry is shem
Wouldn’t I use Lucius Shem rosaline and Rowan
@lapis wharf Yes
For me, Lucius doesnt really tank at this stage. Rowan i absolutely love and rosa i dont find the use for except for wrizz/lab.
@carmine cloud Lightbearers are very good for shemira because they can keep her alive very well. If you are using lucius he should obviously be a bit overlevelled too
@glossy pagoda
Nice
@coral pier thanks
I personally find lightbearers more consistent then wilders (as in less rng heavy) but there are stages where only that rng works out. Iam on ferael not shemira tho
The main reason why I like lightbearers is the fact that they are so tanky and consistent. Also the combo of Lucius+Rowan is too good to ignore. Lightbearers are also the most well rounded faction since you have such a big diversity in heroes.
Any team suggestions?
I know that I have too many Legendaries, I just need help getting through the rest of 14, currently I'm stuck on 14-37
Ok guys im desperate, again
My gal shemira aint taking It
Hi
@worthy swallow Lucius, hogan, Belinda, nem and lorsan
Can someone help me
With something
And what can i do from this ones to ascend how is better to not do a mistake:) 😁
Non. Keep eironn at e+ for now and wait for more copies if you want to raise him. E+ is fine in tower for a while and others are A tiers so not a fodder @iron wing.
For ascencion questions should be#classic-questions. 
Try
Belinda. Belinda
Luc. >>>Tasi
Grezhul. Eironn
Lyca. >>>Lyca
Tasi. Grezhul
Rng it so tasi doesn't die from silvina's jump and can put enemies to sleep @iron wing
Thankyou master cheers everyone
Try
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus (tank)
Nemora
Charm saveas and root ankhira and estrilda.
And who does tasi or fawkes control with coffin or banish @zenith tusk?
What happened? Did you charm saveas?
Yes, he attacked brutus 3 times, lyca just died, arden just died, shemira lasts longer but no ulti so no damage, maybe im finally on my comp ceiling from this level?
Coukd be, I was around your level with 176 Shem and support are 141. Lyca can die she just there for haste. It was big struggle but do able with the correct rng
Let's see
Can luc but8 time for shemira if you put him with Rowan
Try
Shem
Rosa
Rowan
Luc
Tasi(nemora)
Same dealio charm saveas or if you use tasi rng so shem can ult twice in succession
Stomp again, ill level them boys and cry a little
Any ideas might just wait till event to try getting more xp been stuck couple days I get down to reaper vs shemira
generally nemora across from ferael is a good choice, rng charm and he interrupts the enemy team, maybe also swap arden and fawkes to have a better shot at rooting enemy shem so she doesnt silence
Shemira gets coffin
oh ok i forgot about that
try
rowan
shem
nem
lucius
fawkes
I just got it
Wilder trio shemira lucuis which I've done before but maybe all the extra lvels made me pass
Going into this day's Labyrinth. I'll need advice on a team lineup with these
for Normal Wrizz, should i replace Rosaline with Rowan? would he be able to buff the party better?
@austere nova I would try replacing thane with Rowan. Having both of them help shemira do more damage.... adding lorsan for Belinda would push it even further
@woven lichen ... would changing out Belinda for Lorsan be worth the loss of the 4 lb faction bonus?
@austere nova it can be. Lorsan’s skills helps to boost ult damage by a lot so shemira should be doing even more damage to make up for it.
I see your Belinda's is equal to Shem in level. Does she equal in gears? If so belinda would be better than Shem
I only have an E Lorsan, duno if he can survive the last few Wrizz atks
...
Test. Whether you can deal more or not. Luc should be able to mitigate. As long as you deal more damage it should be okay, no?
Bel
Luc
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora
you should not really have a big trouble with that team. Don't do hard mode just yet @devout jolt
You can hard close the app, clown. If you didn't like the result and it won't count as long as it not ended yet
Shem's weapon is +23, Belinda's wep is +17..... Shem's has has much better gear, but Belinda is full M 3/4* gear. Rosaline follows Shem, so she's getting the multi Ulti's off...
I mean use
Lorsan
Luc
Rowan
Rosa
Belinda
In that set up will Rosa follow Belinda?
My lesser Belinda deal more damage than shemira in that set up
yeah, Rosa would follow Belinda in that setup... I progress with Shem at 220, and Luc at 220. i ricky cart'd Luc back to 181 and pushed Belinda to 220 to see what kind of dmg she could do, lol
@still oar what better to choose for labyrinth I use Shemira n Brutus n wilders
Wdym @ember bane? Relics?
The non athalia one since you have to timing your tasi . And gb>lb which is a plus.
As long as you have Rowan and luc you can always use lb most the time in labyrinth
My team
Is Shem, estrilda, Rosa, Rowan luc. Estrilda if she had sig only. On my alts luc, Rosa and Rowan are l+ or less
@still oar For LB i have Luicius sign only rest all E+
Mostly I can defeat them easily just making team for boss Wrizz
It will work since Rosa and Rowan wouldn't be tanking. If you struggle add tasi sometimes. For wrizz
Baden
Luc
Rowan
Shem
Rosa
Luc Will shield most of the damage so even tho your backline all e+ they should be fine
Is 4 LB + nem a good comp to carry me thru mid game?
Need help with 20-52
any ideas on 23-48? Can use a merc if needed
Who should I be using/focusing???
@regal swallow mostly Shemira for which heroes do you use Faction scroll?
@ember bane wilder
@regal swallow so go for Shemira Brutus Tasi Nemora and Lyca
Try charm grezhul with your current line up but replace Belinda with Rosa. Rosa would be behind shemira. If failed try
Tasi
Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Nemora
Try charm grezhul
@regal swallow
Just joined 5 days ago. I LOVE the synergy of this group but I have a feeling it can be better. I definitely want to keep the maid and paladin together, and I fancy the voodoo guy with all his totems, as well as the Phoenix gal with her unlimited revivals/healing. Not really sure what I should aim for from here aside from making them stronger of course. Any replacement suggestions or anything?
@ebon ridge Aim to level up Eironn and Seirus instead of Talene and Numisu, because :
Numisu and Talene are Elite tier, which means they level cap at 100
While Seirus and Numisu are Legendary, which means they are level capped at 140.
This will provide you with level advantage manipulation of Ascension tier through the Resonating Crystal.
TL;DR : What could be better than your current formation? Your current formation, but with Talene and Numisu having a greater level due to proper level manipulation.
Hope this helps! 😁
Little help with 210, want the 400diamonds to summon
@wise merlin oh. My. Goodness. YOU ARE A GENIUS!!! Thank you!!!!
Someone @ me, but i can't find the message
@old ore Try this :
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Athalia
My train of thought RNG wise behind it :
-Nemora will charm Arden, ensuring he will root Lyca, Ulmus, and possibly Estrilda
-Athalia will disable Morvus's AoE and energy gain by her ability, divine strike.
-Estrilda will swing at Lyca, killing her and keeping your main damager dealer at no Risk
-Brutus will chop through Ulmus due to faction advantage and immunity
-Once Shemira gets a few ultimates off, you should be good to go ^^
You're very welcome 😊 so glad I could help @ebon ridge
@wise merlin Lyca instakilled
She's not necessary, she's only there to meatshield
Forsaken Necropolis level 140, advice or perhaps a merc please. ♥️
@spring sleet
Thank you @still oar, looks like the level has changed a little bit.
Hardstuck on 6-28. Any advice on what I should be leveling?
any help for this? KT280
@cosmic ravine saveas to 100 and level him whenever you can, he is the best early game carry
@verbal quail same as the previous guy, get Saveas and use him.
@solid flame Tried swapping places of Lyca and Nemora, and then Nemora with Ferael? So Ankhira will be charmed as Lyca dodges Warek entirely?
@wise merlin will try that one. Tnx for the tip
Need help
[5-6] new to the game, just wondering if there's anything I can change to help get through this stage
Put safiya at the back and kaz at the front @stiff pendant
thanks mate
I know what most will say, just get better heroes or wait for mercenary a week, but lets see if u got better tips than what i already know
I already heard a tip to replace Ira with Rosaline, more tips appreciated 😛
Change Ira out for Belinda or Rosa. Put Numisu in the backline
Thanks ^^
idk what to do amymore
Any ideas?
@pale kettle thats 23-24 right?
@pale kettle This setup works, does require quite some rng tho i believe
@vale flax if you can put an arden in crystal and run something like
lyca/shem
shem/lyca
arden
thoran
nem
or even this one if shem can survive on the front vs the kaz
arden
shem
lyca
thoran
nem
I dont have arden sorry
Saveas
Brutus
Mirael
Estril
Lucius
Give this comp a try @fair iron
24-18 Need advice plz ty @still oar
@junior stratus what stage is that
You have a better grezhul try grezhul instead of brutus @ember bane
Idk what to do about that athalia or tasi
Help
My most powerful team is listed
stuck on 5-12, most of team dies fast. Any advice?
I’ve just been using the same lineup from wrizz for Soren I was just wondering what the best lineup I have to fight against Soren
@ember raven rosa is following who? probably shemira, then put her directly behind her so she doesnt have to move so far. replace belinda with arden
@late tide switch shemira and lucius, replace kaz with arden or tasi if you have them. also dont recommend to make so many ascended tier to L. you waste fodder for other heroes when you dont pull the remaining copies for L+
@limpid quail ah, I already cleared this stage, but thanks. Should I give Belinda's resources to Arden?
Also what merc should I barrow for gb tower
@stiff pendant 3 carries are way too much. remove eironn and belinda and put hogan front and arden back. i would also reset eironn and belinda and level hogan and arden instead, you will get their copies more likely than the others. lineup like this:
nemora
golus
arden
hogan
saveas
@pale kettle lucius, baden, shemira, rosa, rowan should make a decent team
thanks mate
Thanks
@ember raven you can do that, you should level the heroes with the highest ascension until lvl 160. since arden is legendary tier you definitly will get him to L+ first. also when he is 81/141 he has one more root to use, which is also very nice
Thanks
Not sure what to do here. Shemira dies super fast wherever i put her. Feel like i need nemora bottom for saveas and arden/tasi middle since backline top gets targeted by vurk. Rowan doesnt seem to help much in the mix either.
@carmine cloud try this
lyca
shemira
arden
brutus
nemora/tasi
or try to switch arden to bottom. requires some rng though to root and charm the right people there
@carmine cloud you have a lucius, swap him in for brutus. Lucius heals your team and defends them
Not at this level. He gets 1tapped lol 😄
Now im stuck here, and i think i have to just wait till inget gear from daily login and other stuff
@stray pine Is graveborn tower 165
@twilit forum you have 3 carries in the backline, put some support in. replace belinda, isabella and put nemora opposite of ferael and make sure she charms him and put lyca/tasi in
you have the ones i mentioned, belinda, isabella out of the formation and nemora, lyca in
the rest stays as is
@twilit forum thats numisu not nemora. she is the sheep
its not 1 try and done, you have to get the right timings and skills. hit retry or place belinda instead of shemira and see how that works out
shemira front for estrilda is also an option as she has selfsustain
Ty l, it worked
Tips on beating floor 281 without Arden?
Chp 23-10 and special line up I should use
any help plz?
22-8 I can’t beat this for the life of me I can sometimes get tasi to ult get like 7.4m damage with shem but they always stop taking damage at around 25% hp because of healing or something
this is my hero
need help pls
i just die
@forest karma Hey! 😊 could you please specify? What do you mean by your question?
@paper wadi Tried putting Shemira infront of Silvina and Brutus to tank Grezhul instead? As far as I know Grezhul will gain less defense from his stealing ability.
Also, make sure to put Arden as far as possible from Tasi, so he will root 3 enemies.
ty
.
@jade idol
Hello! 🙂
You should swap the positions of Lyca and Arden, root Lyca twice and put Shemira against Golus, so she will gain enough energy. Make sure you put Call on Shemira, Drape / Chalice on Brutus, and eye on Arden!
The low possibility of him critting is worth the attack speed boost!
@paper wadi Best of luck to you! 
@wise merlin don't have even the blade, imagine chalice
also, as i said, everything dies everywhere :c, lemme open the game again
Trying something else won't hurt, you know, this game is all about trial and error ^^ don't be worked up from failing from time to time
bro, to get unstuck from 15-40 i tried for 9 hours with no rest, if i didnt tried everything i wouldn't come here
Ah well you are quite underlevelled, think you could get to at least 160?
Yes, i was thinking that, the cons of rushing is that i've got more and more underleved :c
Then give yourself some time off, farm more, and try everything to could possibly come up with ^^
I have faith in you 🙂
hehe
Please help.
i need a help
Any ideas? 23 26
Last stage of chapter 15. Pls help
@teal hinge Arden isn’t as useful for wrizz. Add in twins and Rowan for Lyca and Arden.
@brisk heart shemira, Rosa, Lucius, fawkes, Arden?
I'll try it a few times and see how it goes
getting eaten alive so far. I think Ferael is really fucking with me by not allowing any of my heroes to ult
@idle oriole can try Nemora top to charm Arden.
@brisk heart can try nara on Ferael then
Who should I substitute?
Fawkes is getting Ferael with his coffin sometimes, but it doesn't seem to be making much difference.
I think the Isabella is hitting me hardest
@pale kettle
Nemora
-shemira
Lyca/tasi
-Lucius
Tasi/lyca?
Nara isn't helping much. I'm just getting absolutely melted lol
Keep me from doing much of anything and simultaneously just delete my health bar
Fawkes is good for getting rid of the spirits and hopefully coffins isabelle or shemira
yeah he only coffins Ferael. Is it random?
Usually highest attack. Guess Ferael is strongest in that line-up
rip
Not sure if twins will work for you but...
Rosa
-shemira
Fawkes
-Lucius
Twins
The twin link should boost Lucius and shemira
yeah Ferael is the boss. And got it, I'll try that one now
@trim yacht May want to use grezhul or more tanks instead of isabelle. Mainly want to delay until shemira ults
I did it! Finally! Shemira clutched it! thank you @woven lichen
@brisk heart nice job! 😀
man. Finished chapter 15, did a 10 pull and got a double Elite and pulled my first Rowan. You love to see it.
Think I am level gated
Wow nice... a party that I used a lot was Rosa, Rowan, Lucius, and shemira @brisk heart
The thanes are just unfair with ezizh's cheat energy gain
Not sure if Rowan will be useful at regular Elite, but I'll try that out
he's mostly just for buffs anyway I think so it shouldn't be too bad
@trim yacht yeah you might be level blocked... usually every 20 or 30 stages is a really tough one
I expected this
Chap 14 level 39 I stuckkkk
Maybe try Lucius, Brutus in front and Shemira, Belinda and Tasi in the back?
Anyone any ideas for this level?
http://prntscr.com/qa09zn what should i go for next? Teambuilding etc
@craggy sparrow L240 shemira doesn’t work?
Fawkes
-shemira
Rowan
-Brutus
Tasi ?
(Tasi with lowest def)
@normal token saveas and Arden. They are much easier to get to L+ than other heroes and care quite powerful when under L160. Athalia... is too hard to ascend early on. Mirael is better than Belinda earlier on too
First impressions? Is that good progress for day 1
@pseudo canyon it’s not bad. Team composition will change a lot with more pulls. Definitely want to get saveas stronger if possible. He carries most people until L160
I had him lvl 40 but switched him out because of his self-lifesteal
@pseudo canyon your line-up is fine. It’s more that once you get him to a higher ascension, his self life steal hastes himself and then he heals back up pretty quickly.... so he is known to be able to tank, kill, and heal if he is 20 levels higher than your other heroes
I have two healers rn
Should i boost level one hero like that? Noticed in pvp people who did that would rekt me
stuck on 22-26, any help?
@woven lichen yikes i think i used melinda to fodder into lucuius
@normal token that’s not a problem. Mirael is supposed to be used as fodder anyways. Mirael, Angelo, Hogan, Morvus are supposed to be used to ascend lightbringer heroes. But, at lower levels, it is ok to use them for progress and then feed them to other heroes when they are no longer useful
the thing is . my mind be like epic heroes > blues
i also need a better healer right?
@normal token ascended heroes tier heroes are always better than legendary tier heroes after L160. Before that, legendary heroes can be better... saveas and Arden in particular.
Yes, a healer like Nemora, Rowan, Rosa would be helpful. Saveas can self-heal though so most people like to use him
@pseudo canyon yeah overleveling a hero will help a lot.
@oak lance try Rowan and Rosa instead of lyca and tasi? Could potentially use athalia on saveas/Ferael too
@oblique gale guessing your have all heroes already?
Gwyn/Ferael
-twins
Rowan
-Lucius
Rosa/athalia
?
Ye 
I'll try that, thanks!
@oblique gale can probably try swapping Rowan and twins too. Assuming Ferael is better than Gwen due to so many lightbringer and preventing ult by shemira. But Gwen with eye can shoot/stun down shemira/Morvus too
Well, i don't have a good Gwen so ye, i'll try with Ferael instead.
Who should i be focusing on? I'm on chapter 5
How can I beat this it’s 15-40
@slate swift try
arden
brutus
nemora
shemira
lyca
nemora has to charm ferael otherwise it wont work, and arden should not root him so he can kill his own team. requires some good rng to work
@split kindle saveas or khasos are you best choices right now for carry. you also want to build a support with CC like arden. also recommend to read the pinned messages guide in here and #classic-questions
10-5 what should I do?
Help guys 20-60
@pale kettle i would say make L+ hogan (with mirael fodder) and put him frontline for tasi. maybe arden for nemora or lyca if he doesnt die instantly
Any suggestion for heroes with Soren generally?
i require the fruit of knowledge from the rare few blessed with omnipotent fallacies.
Current lineup any suggestions
Who should I use for Soren?
I've been running:
Rosa
Shem
Baden
Lucius
Saveas
I've been getting decent rewards but I think it could be better, just don't know how exactly.
Hoe is this game not broken xD . After 45 seconds these 3 heroes did not do almost any dmg :/
Current lineup. Any suggestions from higher level players appreciated.
The closest I have gotten to beating this team is with this team... Any suggestions as to whom I should switch out?
Anyone found out how to go through that ice shit in the new voyage?
Please help
Should I use safiya to make Brutus legendary?
Never use an ascended hero to feed another ascended hero unless they are ascended+5 stars
So to answer your question, no
@harsh frost explain a bit more. I did the entire voyage, just wanna see what part
@pale kettle okay.. what do i to increase Belinda's critical rate?
@worthy bane https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/650645851462697000/Screenshot_20191201-113348_AFK_Arena.jpg
in case you can't find it.. << jasper's
I got it, thank you for the help!
@harsh frost if you mean the fire shrine that turns into ice... you need to use Talene for that fight
Pls help with 20-30, been here for weeks
@inland kite
Tasi
- Brutus/Lucius if he survives to ult
Nemora - Shemira
Lyca
@spark lake
Nemora
- Lyca
Tasi - Brutus
Shemira
Try that? Make sure Nem has good enough boots so she can charm arden before he roots
Thanks man
shemira is starting to pull through for me but yeah brutus at least took a few hits before he died, not ulting though @cerulean hamlet did manage to pass it
You don't need brutus to ult, his whole role is just to survive to buy the rest of your team a bit of time
yeah brutus is stuck at legendary for me i think
yeah legit legendary
i think i got one more nemora till i can get her ascended
who does silvina target again, lowest defense?
lowest defense mage
yeah its a rip my nemora is so low, even put the highest gear on her and shes still lower than tasi and shemira lol
@proven thunder
Arden
- Saveas
Lyca - Lucius
Tasi
How does that go?
my saveas melts from the AI saveas
i say keep trying cause arden can root saveas
Help please ❤️ wilder back line doesn't work
but can the root overlay with banish? cus my tasi always banishes saveas
thats just rng, just keep trying or switch their positions so tasi might target someone else
wilders are extremely rng dependant
i would know i used to run a pure wilder lightbearer team
@gleaming nacelle It'd be easiest to use Nemora + Lyca to try charm their ferael so he fears his own team. Also don't bother with Tasi
Nemora
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Arden
Maybe?
i got it, with lucious replaced with brutus
@inland kite
Tasi
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Arden/Nemora
If she doesn't die fore she ults and shem ults too it should be okay after some tries
arden gets like 3 roots off before tasi can even get one banish
so im doing shemira, brutus front then arden lyca and nemora back
Tasi banish isn't integral, it's moreso her ult
Then it'd probably just be RNG for favorable teleports and such
aww shemira almost pulled it off
@next blaze Can you post the rest of your roster? Also if you can get Shemira to 240 by resetting belinda (well, you'd still want bel 180 first) you should do that as she's a better carry to overlevel at your stage
@cerulean hamlet
Hm, your options seem a bit limite since you don't have an arden but definitely reset belinda so your shemira is your highest level first.
Then:
Tasi
- Brutus/Lucius
Lyca - Shemira
Arden/Nemora
The backline ascensions don't really matter
Who should i replace or do i have a good lineup?
@pine cedar Level that legendary+ saveas as high as you can. He deals insane damage at that stage of the game.
Hey guys, looking for some help with what I should run for Labyrinth. I know itll rotate with factions but maybe a few reliable go to members or combos would really help me understand more.
@pine cedar the lineup looks fine.... adding Rowan would help to make it a team that works well in the endgame... but at your level, saveas would probably work out better and then shemira after L160
My damage dealer is Belinda
@pine cedar Well I would recommend using saveas since he is so much better at it at that point
Tasi cant get ult off, shemira keeps dying, the others die right off
Saveas is generally regarded as the best carry in early game, though Belinda is really great. i used her as my carry before i got 161 Shem.
Thats my carry and rosa is the support for Belinda si she can ult. And fawkes is my support with brutus and lucious as the tanks
@inland kite wh-where are all your heroes?
Idk what happened but I passed it woot
@pale kettle Lucius+Rowan is a good combo in lab because that makes your team very tanky. So the team can be something like : Lucius-Brutus-Arden-Rowan-Belinda/Gwyneth
@cerulean hamlet this lineup ended up working
Wow a mirael keeps killing me
Thank you @coral pier that helps form the rest of the team as well. Appreciate it.
@pale kettle Arden can be replaced for Saveas for even more damage while keeping your faction bonus. Do that if you dont feel like you don't need arden to live
@inland kite have you tried Nem in the middle to try and charm her? or use any type of CC on her?
She gets banished but then tasi dies after
Have you tried with lucius instead of brutus?
Instant death
What about putting tasi frontline instead of brutus and rowan back middle?
Woah lucius dying actually saved me
Task failed succesfully lol
LOL tasi took out an isabella
that's my girl 
those L's are an eyesore 
@inland kite
Tasi
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Nemora
Also who does silv jump on?
Tell my rng to stop giving me bad heroes and I'll upgrade some L
And I passed it, silv goes on nemora, I've given her the highest gear I can and she still has lowest def
@inland kite you shouldn't have ascended those heroes to L anyways.
Ah, well gj! The legendary thing though is mostly about the scenario where you don't pull enough to get them to L+ getting them stuck. That's why it's recommended to not make A tier heros L unless you can do L+
Oh well I did, nothing i can do now shrugs* it's just always gonna be eyesores
Saying I shouldn't doesnt really do anything lol not really at all
Yeah, nothing to be done about it for now. So you work with what you have
Well maybe someday they will be eyesores with ascended borders
@coral pier that took you so long to get lmao
This is my first account, its had quite a bit of screw ups
But luckily I've managed to pull it back quite a bit
@pale kettle Idk maybe I should go to sleep already
Please help.. I ran this like 50 times and idk what to do with the crazy burst that mehira does later..
Cmon lineup post luck :P
@warped peak chap/level
What?
i'm asking for your chapter and level
@inland kite Do you have an Arden?
Tasi
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Arden
Would be ideal
they aint dealing enough damage for shemira to stay alive
You could try swapping the position of Brutus and Shemira but otherwise it looks like it's just RNG
shemira is just not dealing enough damage to kill even one
...There's a limited amount of things you can do about that other than time and maybe try getting better gear on her
if i can just get rid of that ulmus
maybe try putting your nemora across from enemy nemora and go for the double charm, have arden in another slot to root, ie backline arden lyca nemora
another thing if youre desperate is resetting nemora to 180 crystal for brutus 200? not sure how much of a difference that would make
my brutus is only L
oh right i forgot thats a thing lol
nothing i can do with taht, i havent pulled a single brutus in like 4-5 months
yeah you just have to play around with cc and see how it@goes i guess
yep its rng fest when it comes to wilders
So wait.. were yall talking to me or kanonno-
its suzie talking to you, so they're talking to me
all i need is one more nemora and ill have ascended
then a morvus L+ to get him mythic plus
to get lucius m plus i mean
@gleaming nacelle you might be too under leveled or ascended if your support dies that fast... need Nemora or Arden to at least charm or root Ferael... can Lucius tank top and shield in time?
Can also try lb instead though Ferael would do more damage...
Lucius
-Rosa
Rowan
-Shemira
Fawkes/Arden
any help on 22-26? Still stuck :/
@oak lance what is stopping you? Saveas killing you? No energy due to Ferael? Does shemira ult?
You could try fawkes instead of athalia. Can cancel Brutus’ invulnerability and make it 5v4
Lyca
...Brutus
Nemora
...Shemira
Tasi/Arden/Rosaline
Spam retry until nemora charms ferael. If ferael gets his fear off before charm lands even with lyca haste, put dura's call or +4 mythic boots on nemora to give her more haste. If tasi banishes ferael try swap her out with arden and try get arden to root both tanks + numisu. I don't really think rosaline will work but you can always try i suppose. I don't see Lucius being needed to beat that stage so don't fixate on him too much. @oak lance
Im getting so tilted, every 4 levels Im getting stuck for days here.
I feel like my lineup REALLY needs tank...
@maiden gull Building a saveas and having him at level 160 would help, otherwise you'd probably want Talene on the front if you're going to use her
My best Save is Rare+...
Mh, there are other options but Sav would've been the best. Maybe a Brutus or Hogan?
I don't have Brutus, my best Hogan is R
I mean, in that case there's not much you can do... just keep leveling and working on them as you get copies :/
Shemira to M and level 161 I suppose should be your goal
Is there a better formation here?
So I'm just screwed for a month... @cerulean hamlet 😦
Mh, not quite. Your progress will just be a bit slower until you get a proper carry
@wheat forum
Move Saveas to the frontline and Belinda to the back line
Belinda
- Saveas
Arden - Hogan
Shemira
I guess not the end of the world I made two alt accounts to play with my girlfriend and f2p i guess ill just focus on those
Is it worht resetting my Thane and dumping a ton of stuff to 140 my Shemira or a different carry?
@cerulean hamlet atm I cant really progress im completely stuck
@maiden gull Sure, Thane falls off super hard anyways so focusing on Shemira is your best bet if you can't get Sav before 160 as well as past 160
I was told Thane is fine until level 240 and he's been my carry thus far Do you mind if I link you all my heroes to work on a possible different comp
@wheat forum Just wait for more copies of sav and keep leveling then it shouldn't take too long to progress early
Sure, go ahead. That's what this channel is for ``
@cerulean hamlet what should I be doing in the mean time? Just waiting?
More or less yeah, maybe clear as much as you can in king's tower and so/lab/voyage anything really
Working on fodder for shemira but who else should i focus on
@maiden gull
Mh, considering what you have I think you'd probably just want to focus on LBs (and Shem I suppose), something like Shemira - Rosaline - Fawkes - Some LB tank - (Rowan)/Mehira perhaps
ok bit of an overreaction
Well, that'd be what you'd want for the tank slot xD
Yeah holy hell, as I was typing "I'd love a Lucius
@fast nacelle Saveas for now, also Arden
Kk yea got him first 10 bomb
I got a "Chest of Wishes" what should I select from it
Also I'm now sad I can't use my Lucius for 24 hours until I have a crystal spot 😭
Should i make shemira mythic asap or hold off till team is overall stronger
@cerulean hamlet yeah I’ve completed all I can atm and I’m just at a stand still until I get more savs
Making her mythic ASAP is what you want to do considering her main powespike is at 161
@wheat forum Just wait then
Kk just need food lol
@cerulean hamlet lineup revamped until I can drop Thane for Lucius on Crystal
Need help with lineup
You can put shemira on frontline, otherwise Thane in front of where Saveas would attack and hope for dodge @maiden gull
@lofty stump
Shemira
- Lucius
Rowan - Brutus
Fawkes
How does that go?
I'll try it. Thanks @cerulean hamlet
So you do agree with dropping Thane for Lucius and running Lucius + Shem Front Fawkes Belinda Rosaline back?
Yeah, Lucius would be fairly helpful I think
I just beat the level I was stuck on, holy shit Shem as a carry is busted.
Any tips stuck on 14-39.
@cerulean hamlet almost beat it. Just gotta let RNG take over now. Thanks
@boreal rivet make nemora l+ and use:
Nemora lucius brutus saveas rownan
@boreal rivet they should all be lvl 80 and saveas lvl 120 so reset shemira and nemora, take nemora to lvl 80, take saveas as high as possible and put brutus in crystal
@boreal rivet you can also use hogan instead of brutus
Try
Arden
Shem
Lyca(luc)Nemora(lyca)
Luc(nemora)
Try charm grezhul and chain Shem @spare crypt
@tawny jewel lets do it here..
yeah looks alright.. give it some tries.. 🙂 with your levels i think you definitely should be able to do it with some good rng
@novel adder good rng ---> key words :(
haha almost every stage needs some good rng.. but i'd say yours would be fairly reasonable..
who does your tasi banish though?
try swap her position with lyca.. since she will probably be delayed up top when ogi does his smash
@novel adder okay. She banishes tasi which is nice. Also my nem isnt fast enough to charm arden
help with 22-26?
@oak lance use nemora instead of rosa and put her mid to charm ferael
How to improve my team
Ascend and lvl up. You currently have 3 dmg dealers... you should have 1 main 1/2 tank and 2/3 supports
Try Warek frontline. I suck at Mauler though so x) @pale kettle
Edit: could also put Saveas top
@languid ivy level up Saveas. Put Shem away until she is 161. Better team would be Tasi, Saveas, Hogan, Arden and Nemora
Last fight of chapter 21 
@lofty depot my saveas is lv160 against lv266 enemies
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Make Nemora charm enemy Arden so he roots his own team
@pale kettle Wait what floor is that?
85 or something
Aah okay, yeah honestly I don't know then if my lineup didn't work. My Maulers suck @pale kettle
@pale kettle you can try with khasos
khasos
brutus
safiya
warek
saveas/numisu
@pale kettle aehm put one numisu in the crystal of course. you just fill all positions for the full faction bonus
any ideas? 17-36
khasos' axe starter mows down my lower half of the team. arden's root then block shem from using the ult
i could also fodder hogan to estrilda and take her straight to A
@topaz aspen have you tried arden mid and nemora top? when you have athalia to counter arden (even E) then put her against him and see how that goes
nemora
estrilda
arden
shemira
athalia
nvm got lucky with the roots and the previous setup. XD
👌
@pale kettle Can you post the rest of your lineup too?
The rest you mean the other heroes?
Yeah
Hmm, no Rowan.
Maybe you can try
Shemira
- Lyca
Mehira - Brutus
Nemora?
Hi all, am getting smashed on 14-39, need some lineup help. This comp I’m vsing is Zerg DPS central.
Lyca, Mehira and Nemora are bad af
@steel patrol try
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
arden
requires good rng, also switch lyca and nemora and see how that goes
Ok, but Grezhul got much more hp than Brutus
@pale kettle brutus gives you guaranteed time due to his immunity skill
@pale kettle It's not how good they are for damage, it's the utility for them to buy you enough time for shem to clear the stage. The ascensions of those 3 doesn't matter
Brutus only lasts 7 seconds
Well nvm ill just wait for more powder and more ascention lvl thx anyways
If grezh manages to live longer go with him, Brutus is just guaranteed time
Just that at your level it'll take a lot of RNG.
Ah ok
@limpid quail that definitely helped, this is how it went with the lineup you suggested even though I lost, but Brutus was close to dying, and khasos and the crossbow guy (forget his name) stayed alive with good hp
If its just rng i think ill just better wait until my heroes are better
@steel patrol who was charmed? did ankhira catch someone in her web? when it was shemira maybe try to switch nemora and lyca, so shemira does continuous damage
@limpid quail Ankhira didn’t web anyone, and Nemora didn’t try to charm (or at least didn’t do it successfully, she might tried Brutus, but was immune)
@steel patrol then just spam try again for some time
@limpid quail yeah, better rng will help. Arden was doing amazing CC
Any tips how to pass this? My Shem can survive till the end and it’s a 1v1 against scythe dude but I can’t kill him in time.
@tall forge when its a 1v1 at the end its doable, just try again
why are you holding onto Legendary tier heroes? @tall forge
@silent rover please share the exact lineup
Wdym @pale kettle
@limpid quail finally beat it, you’re a god amongst humans. I’m always grateful for your input. Thanks.
i mean what i'm saying. there's no point in holding onto Mirael.
For Saveas I can’t do anything till I actually get a mauler to L+, mirael for crystal although I could replace her with Tasi now and mythic Belinda
@steel patrol haha that would be great then i would also finally get to pass my stage xD
Is it a good idea to do that?
@tall forge in my opionion you are fine for now. sure you have to replace them when you want tp break the level cap of 160, but you still have some time until then. but its not wrong to already plan who you are going to level beyond 160
That’s what I thought too, doesn’t matter if I have mirael in Crystal rn or not. Question is, will Belinda be helpful in any way shape or form?
Mythic^
Belinda synergizes well with Rosa and Rowan.
I can’t wait to get one more E+ in GB to ascend my shemira lmao. I only have one Rowan and no Rosaline so that’s a rip
before i do anything, is there any special condition in this or should i just defeat this stage ?
@silent rover you can defeat it, then you will have talene to use for the last part
@limpid quail so in this battle i should use talene ?
thats the top left camp? then you will get talene after beating it and then take the fight on the right after scroll in front of the pillar, see pinned message in #classic-questions
at 5-20 now having estrilda-grezhul-ferael-shemira in my lineup should i use gwyneth or ira any advice?
Alright, 14-40, what would you amazingly knowledgeable folks think would annihilate this comp? Mirael is the top damage, seems to hurt any team combo I’ve tried.
Stuck on 11-40 😦
Would:
Lyca
Lucius
Grezhul
Shemira
Arden
Work for 14-40? Edit: It did!
Help
Any suggestions on formation?, (heroes not shown near the bottom are repeats or rare fodder)
@fair iron I had Fultsch help me earlier with that. Here’s what I was told “@steel patrol try
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
arden
requires good rng, also switch lyca and nemora and see how that goes”
my arden is lvl 1 epic :S
@fair iron try Tasi instead of Arden then
not luck..at 1:18 im dead ;p
Show your damage results
Switch Lyca and nemoras places and try that. Then just give it a few tries, as RNG will make the difference in winning or losing.
You can thank @limpid quail for the info, I’m just passing it on. Haha.
same tactic here ? its the last 14-40 :S
Here’s what I used...
Lyca
Lucius
Grezhul
Shemira
Arden.
But since you don’t have Grezhul or Arden, you’ll need people that can CC.
You and I are pretty much up to the same parts. Inbox me what you had success with on each stage from chapter 15 onward, and I’ll try and do the same so that we can make it through it
Any advice for 23-34 I'm getting absolutely curbstomped with my back line getting wrecked before they can get close to ulting
@white ravine I wouldn't use both Shemira and Belinda and since you're running LB I'd remove Shemira for rosa and put Rowan in the middle
For that particular stage though I'm not sure since I belive Silvina will target Rowan (or Rosa? Don't know honestly) and I'm not sure Rowan can handle Silvina and Athalia or even either of them. I'm very unfamiliar with LB so at this point I'm just guessing lol.
My advice was more in general to not use both Shem and Bel and to have Rowan mid, with Rosa replacing Shem.
I'll give it a shot! As yeah since I'm so heavy into LB I figured this stage would be a struggle
Help me out lmao I’m od stuck
@white ravine
nara
shemira
lyca/rosa
lucius/nemora
tasi/nemora
Just survive/ dodge athalia burst
Any idea for this line-up ? Farael is the real prob 😔
Any idea which comp could work here? Iam going to use merc and have crystal slots available.
I could also go with 180 brutus and 170crystal
borrow a better khasos
Do u guys think lb support or wilders support is better for shemira carry team? Currently at 14-19
@pale kettle if athalia doesn’t work, can try nara, Gwen, maybe fawkes.
@tired dagger better for #classic-questions but either can work depending on who you can ascend higher
22-14 I’ve hade it so that Shem ults twice which was pretty close to win I’m guna just spam try this unless anyone has any ideas??
@pale kettle Rosa instead of mehira with shemira?
Shemira
-Rosa
Rowan
-Lucius
Tasi
Rose is to slow can’t make it to shem b4 one hit
@woven lichen Nara is getting one shooted, same for fawkes ( who coffin estrilda ) x)
@pale kettle a different option is to use Nemora then to charm Ferael so that he shoots/scares his own team
Yes, but she focus grezhul too many time x)
I might try to re-do this chapter till I win
@pale kettle good luck 🙂
Well, NVM ahah Guess you helped a lot
@pale kettle lol glad it worked 
im having a crazy tough time in The Contorted Realm. these 310 bosses are very tough. can anyone help me?
@austere nova the power gap seems really large... might need more levels or need to grab firebringer and icebringer. You may also need an athalia/nara etc to prevent safiya from putting up the field
Having big trouble on 15-36, any ideas?
@steel patrol you could try using Nemora to charm Isabelle or Khasos so they do less damage to you. Also gives you healing and faction bonus for wilder
Man 18-32 is ridiculously hard
17-36, any ideas, getting wreck from all the charm/totems/roots
@woven lichen I’ve tried her, but she hasn’t charmed anyone when i tried with her in team for about 30 tries
@ivory breach Brutus/Shem Lyca Tasi Arden
@steel patrol hm weird that there isn’t a charm... may want to borrow a tasi. Otherwise maybe Rosa?
