#lineup-help

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glossy pagoda
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So maybe arden and Lucius may work for you instead of nemora and brutus. But ye 161Lucius is a bit more reliable compared to 157

uncut star
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im stuck on 10-21. my team just dies instantly starting with my bottom frontliner. even my brutus only survives until his immunity expires but nobody can survive long enough to use ultimate

oak lance
pale kettle
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Lyca
Brutus
Nemora (charm ferael)
Lucius
Tasi
@inland kite
I finished this level like this

green anchor
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I'm stuck on 17-6 what should I do

torpid stirrup
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Should i lvl Rowan or fareal sig? I Can A Rowan when i get enough fodder. Still need 3 fareal copies to A him

limpid quail
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@green anchor show a screenshot of the stage so we can see what we fighting against

green anchor
sharp egret
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@sharp flame

Thoran, Lyca
Tasi, Shem, Arden
what level and ascension is your shem?

limpid quail
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I think you should reset nemora to 180 and push Belinda to 200 first. Switch Nara, nemora and lucius, Belinda you don't want your Carry to be thrown around by ogi. An Arden would also be great to counter the haste of lyca since you don't have her yourself @green anchor

pale kettle
marble cobalt
sturdy gust
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Anyone who has 21-59? I can't use search func right now..

pale kettle
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@marble cobalt can I see all ur heroes?

marble cobalt
pale kettle
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Do u have lyca

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Try shemira Isabella nemora tasi and Luigi is

sharp flame
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@sharp egret It was ascended and 180 everyone else L+ or less and level 150 or so

sharp egret
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ok thanks

marble cobalt
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@LilGrundle#8813 that did not work but i beat it with kelthur

sturdy gust
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Would love a solution to 21-60 using a 220 shem :<

indigo jolt
sturdy gust
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wow; thx; no gordo tho 😦

pale kettle
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that gorvo didn't do crap though so don't stress @sturdy gust

indigo jolt
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It cc'd arden/nem can't remember who it jumped on.

iron kelp
indigo jolt
graceful hearth
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18-40. Ugh. This hurts. I feel like I’m able to pass it but I just can’t get the right rng/lineup for it. Anyone know what I can do?

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And yes, I’m very aware of my ascension mistakes. I’m working on it

remote otter
pale kettle
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@inland kite those L's are an eyesore.
Tasi
Luc
Nem
. Shem
Rosa

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seeing those L's hurt skREEEEEEE

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@remote otter swap khasos and tidus

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@graceful hearth
well first of all, stop making L's
Lyca
. Brutus
Nem
Shem
Tasi

abstract shuttle
uncut star
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is tidus any good

pale kettle
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Not without many copies @uncut star

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help please. i'm really trying to finish chapter 20 by tomorrow

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@pale kettle mom i need your wisdom

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Merc or no merc? @pale kettle

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yes merc, you can see the three in my screenshot

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Yeah but do you wanna use one or not

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Athalia would be good for the arden

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Well actually you have one though so you could just use yours. What have you been using on that level? @pale kettle

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Is your hendrik squishy? if so I might throw in that brutus for a tank @pale kettle

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Hendrik is squishy with GB (obviously)

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Try Brutus, Shemira upfront, Lyca back middle only for haste, Athalia on arden, and tasi behind brutus @pale kettle

wide breach
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Should I just put 3 L tier heroes on my wishlist at this point, or feed off some raine copies. Feels like I’ll never ascend everything lol. The 2 Hogan’s is the extent of my fodder

pale kettle
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I personally have 1 fodder hero on my wishlist for every faction to help with that prob @wide breach

sturdy gust
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im so jealous of ur copies; did u only do lb factionscrolls?
also I heard that putting fodder heros on wishlist is equiv. as using ascended tier as fodder?

pale kettle
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I mean its up to you. Its potentially sacrificing an ascended hero that could come in its place but I drastically need the fodder so I am doing it for now. @sturdy gust

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Not a long term thing

wide breach
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@sturdy gust yeah I got faction scrolls from every single last few events and put them all on LB. also got lucky with some double elite pulls

silent wraith
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@pale kettle try this lineup, reset until nemo charms arden who will root ulmus and grez

plucky flint
pale kettle
violet pine
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Why is this so hard

pale kettle
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@silent wraith thank you it worked! ilyilyily

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Okay we both suggested like same team but OKAYYY SUZIE @pale kettle

maiden gull
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Any ideas, getting consistently stuck every 4-8 levels 😦

pale kettle
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@pale kettle SMH I'M A VISUAL PERSON SO I SEE PIC AND MY EYES FOLLOW IT BUT THANK YOU TOO

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can you show your full roster? @maiden gull

nocturne furnace
pale kettle
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what chap-stage?

nocturne furnace
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21-4

pale kettle
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well you're out of luck buddy because i'm stuck on the same one LMAO @nocturne furnace

nocturne furnace
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fukkk me smh

pale kettle
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@nocturne furnace holler at me when you get it though. i'd really appreciate it

violet pine
pale kettle
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can you show your full roster?

violet pine
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@pale kettle

pale kettle
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have you tried the meta? @violet pine

violet pine
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the shemira/nemora/brutus/tasi/lyca thing yeah

maiden gull
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@pale kettle

pale kettle
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hi hello yes

maiden gull
pale kettle
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reset Shem and Grez, level Bel and golus. that way you can break level cap. and don't take a hero to Legendary unless you can't take them to L+ right away. you should only be investing you resources into your five main heroes, specifically one from each faction and the fifth whichever you have the most fodder for. get Shem from the labstore until she's at ascended. i'd aim for the Wilder trio, Lyca, Nem, and Tasi asap. @maiden gull

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in terms of your lineup, I'd do
Mehira
. Grez
Bel
. Estrilda
Rosa

pale kettle
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yes uh, stop making legendaries @mystic estuary

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@mystic estuary
Nem
Luc
Rowan
. Shem
Tasi

wintry ether
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Hey guys im currently kinda stuck on Chapter 4, wondering what a good early game wishlist is

pale kettle
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can you show your full roster?

wintry ether
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yea lemme ss it

ancient cargo
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Qu,estion on Graveborn Tower level 180. What artifact do you give Thoran to get him to power through it? I know that he is key and I have him with maxed out Graveborn gear and his signature item is at +30.

mortal crystal
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Stuck on 15-40. Please help with lineup.

pale kettle
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@wintry ether
LB: Bel, Lucius, Rowan, Rosa, fodder
Wilder: Tasi, Nem, Lyca, Eironn, fodder
Mauler: Brutus, Khasos, Warek, Fodder, fodder
Graveborn: Shem, Nara, Ferael, Grez, fodder
your wishlist is gonna change as you progress

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@mortal crystal you have made wayyy too many Legendaries. this is going to impede your progress.

granite chasm
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@mortal crystal can you send ss for 15-40

pale kettle
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@ancient cargo not an expert at lategame advice but what artifacts do you know for sure you want on a certain hero? that can narrow down options

ancient cargo
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The problem with that stage is that it is all about Thoran. Everyone gets CCed until they are dead and basically you are hoping for multiple ultimates to go off, that crit, before the enemy team takes him out. I have probably ran this stage over a 1000 times so far, and that isn't even exaggerating.

mortal crystal
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15-40 stage

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@granite chasm
Hope that SS helps. Really hate being stuck for a week.

pale kettle
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it's kinda tough to help you. you've made too many Ls.

granite chasm
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do you have Dura blade ? @mortal crystal

mortal crystal
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No just dura eye, dura call, dura drape, dura Grace

granite chasm
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Shemira 1 with Dura eye - Brutus 2 - Arden 3 with dura Drape - nemora 4 with dura Call - Lyca 5 with dura grace @mortal crystal

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its gonna be really rng fight

dense hawk
granite chasm
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Rosaline 1 - Lucius 2 - Belinda 3 - rowan 4 - fawkes 5 @dense hawk

dense hawk
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Thx it worked

granite chasm
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np

silent wraith
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@nocturne furnace trick here is to charm vurk who will proceed to poison kaz killing her, reset until u charm vurk

mortal crystal
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Thx so much. Finally finished it. @granite chasm

granite chasm
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np ❤️

dense hawk
granite chasm
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@dense hawk fawkes coffin Mirael or Morvus ?

wintry ether
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@pale kettle which fodder would u recommend. Also is fodder purely for ascending?

dense hawk
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No he instantly dies

granite chasm
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try this line yep but its might not working but we gonna know he used the coffin at who , lucius 1 - rosa 2 - fawkes 3 - rowan 4 - belinda 5 @dense hawk

dense hawk
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It worked

granite chasm
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nice glad to hear that 😄

dense hawk
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This might not be posible yet

granite chasm
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rosaline 1 with dura call - lucius 2 Dura Grace - belinda 3 Dura eye - rowan 4 - fawkes 5 @dense hawk

pale kettle
dense hawk
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I only have dura eye and grace

granite chasm
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shemira 1 with dura blade - brutus 2 with dura eye - tasi 3 with dura call - lyca 4 with grace - nemora 5 with Drape @pale kettle
eye on belinda + grace on lucius @dense hawk

dense hawk
granite chasm
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lucius 1 - rosaline 2 - fawkes 3 - rowan 4 - belinda 5 @dense hawk

dense hawk
granite chasm
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fawkes use coffin at who ? @dense hawk

pale kettle
dense hawk
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Estrida

granite chasm
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np ❤️ , Lucius 1 - shemira 2 - tasi 3 - lyca 4 - nemora 5 @pale kettle

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lucius 1 - rosaline 2 - Fawkes 3 - rowan 4 - belinda 5 @dense hawk

pale kettle
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@granite chasm it didn’t work I think I’ll have to wait until next week again for mercenaries /: bc I’m getting destroyed

granite chasm
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tasi banish khasos right ? @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Yes I just got very close to winning actually w a little luck I can get it I think

granite chasm
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try this shemira 1 Dura blade - brutus 2 dura eye - nemora 3 dura Drape - lyca 4 Dura Grace - tasi 5 Dura call / try both line ups if one of them close to do it keep re try , its all about Nemora charm rng + tasi blinks @pale kettle

dense hawk
novel fulcrum
granite chasm
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Lucius 1 - rosaline 2 - fawkes 3 - rowan 4 - belinda 5 @dense hawk

lapis wharf
granite chasm
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@novel fulcrum that really hard one try merc hero

lapis wharf
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Most people say wilder for 3 back line, but Shem seems to work really well with Rosaline and Rowan

novel fulcrum
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yeah.. its pretty damned hard lol

granite chasm
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its really depend are you f2p or spender ? @lapis wharf

lapis wharf
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Uhh. I bought the advancement pack but that’s it

granite chasm
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then focus LB heroes , becaused wilders + shemira with brutus work till chapter 23 or 25 as max then you gonna need to switch shemira with ferael , full LB team work really good at high Chapters @lapis wharf

dense hawk
granite chasm
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fawkes coffin mirael ? @dense hawk

lapis wharf
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@granite chasm so is LB the f2p route?

dense hawk
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Yes

granite chasm
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its the easy way for f2p to focus at 1 faction all players gonna recommend LB @lapis wharf
Rosaline 1 - lucius 2 - Belinda 3 - Rowan 4 - Fawkes 5 @dense hawk

dense hawk
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Ok

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No luck think I'll have 2 wait

lapis wharf
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@granite chasm when does Belinda replace Shemira?

granite chasm
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try peaks of time more Dura`s might help @dense hawk

dense hawk
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Ok

granite chasm
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@lapis wharf its can be at chapter 23

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but maybe before that i`m not really sure , i reroll to LB team after crystal 240

lapis wharf
novel fulcrum
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huh? belinda replaces shemira at some point?

lapis wharf
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Who would you use as my 5 right now (I’m half way through ch 13)

granite chasm
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Shemira + nemora + tasi + lyca + arden + brutus keep switch between support for now when belinda be higher then shemira you can use her with 5 LB @lapis wharf

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yea + ferael do as some point @novel fulcrum

wintry ether
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wait is 5 lightbringers better than 2 wilders 3 lightbringers?

granite chasm
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5 LB much better for mid + late game players not very sure about early game , but u can show me your heroes we can make a better team @wintry ether

wintry ether
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alright hold up.

granite chasm
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@wintry ether how many Arcane labyrinth coin do you have ?

wintry ether
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lemme check

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8145

granite chasm
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reset arden + nemora + lvl thane 100 + keep buy shemira from Lab don`t buy anything else with lab coins @wintry ether

wintry ether
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ok

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So what should my current composition be then?

novel fulcrum
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Welp tips here? i keep getting stuck on these damned floor 80s for faction specific tower :/

granite chasm
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same for now , but you gonna have to change it soon , but keep your carry higher lvl then other heroes @wintry ether

wintry ether
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Alright. So should I reset memory and harden and leave them level 1 and make thane 100

granite chasm
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@novel fulcrum Rosaline 1 with dura call - lucius 2 with Chalice or Drape - 3 Belinda with blade - rowan 4 - fawkes 5 with grace / if fawkes coffin the top right angelo Same line up but just switch belinda + rosaline with lucius + fawkes

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no not lvl 1 , after you lvling your thane to 100 , there gonna be so much exp left for you , you can use it to lvl them up back @wintry ether

novel fulcrum
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shiet gotta wait for tmrw then for belinda @granite chasm you think i should make my belinda mythic? i got 1 at E+ and another at E

granite chasm
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yea that gonna be awesome @novel fulcrum

wintry ether
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Ok its telling me every champ on the stand has to be lvl 60 so I guess that's where they will sit haha

woven lichen
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@novel fulcrum if you are using gwyn, can put eye on her and see if she works in back mid with Rowan tanking in front. Lucius could come up from back to pair with Rowan afterward

wintry ether
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So thane only made it to lvl 85

granite chasm
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nice , try to fight now i hope its working , remember always your carry need to be higher lvl then your team , if you share lvls between them as balances its gonna take very long time to progress @wintry ether

wintry ether
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Ah ok. So thane dies super fast unfortunately. Any tips?

granite chasm
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try to build Saveas he good carry early game @wintry ether

novel fulcrum
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damn, all 3 angelos are always hovering at about 10% hp and they keep outhealing gwyn's dps just barely, nvm got my better gear on lucius let me retry

woven lichen
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@novel fulcrum if lucius is tanking ok but need more dps, can try swapping the stronger weapon and helm to gwyn instead of Lucius

granite chasm
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try this Lucius 1 - Rowan 2 - rosaline 3 - Gwynth 4 - fawkes 5 @novel fulcrum

novel fulcrum
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thats exactly what im running right now ^ to both of you, gwyn just cant kill either tree

granite chasm
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what dura`s you using on them + do you have chalice + blade ? @novel fulcrum

novel fulcrum
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lucius drape, gwyn eye, rosaline call, fawkes grace

wintry ether
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@granite chasm had to reset my mailer and level thane to 93 but got it! Qoot

granite chasm
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might be rng + you can wait tomorrow for belinda M she might make differents but might not happened before she be 10+ , because if you use her at sig 1 rosaline gonna follow lucius 😂 💔 @novel fulcrum

woven lichen
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@novel fulcrum could maybe try estrilda instead of fawkes too

granite chasm
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@wintry ether nice , check youtube for beginner guides they give nice tips

wintry ether
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Alright! Hopefully I can keep going thane for now and transition into like a 5 lb.. just got estralida to elite+ from beating chapter 5

novel fulcrum
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got it with estrilda, thanks guys

granite chasm
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wish you luck bro , 5 LB are nice , but just as Back up with lab coin buy shemira @wintry ether

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gg @novel fulcrum

novel fulcrum
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Now there’s also this, trying to push all of the towers to 80

wintry ether
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@granite chasm what comp would I want to run with shamira? Still 2 wilder 3 lb?

novel fulcrum
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depends on what you pull @wintry ether you should be able to get a hefty amount of diamonds still

granite chasm
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^

brittle summit
granite chasm
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Kaz 1 - Lyca 2 - arden 3 - tasi 4 - nemora 5 that might work but not sure tbh sadira @novel fulcrum

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shemira 1 blade - brutus 2 eye - nemora 3 chalice - tasi 4 call - lyca 5 grace @brittle summit

novel fulcrum
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lucius too tanky, maybe a lot of rng ill keep retrying unless you have another approach

granite chasm
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if that doesn`t work try lyca front + brutus back to tank athalia +

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Estrilda 1 Grace - lucius 2 Chalice - belinda 3 blade - Rowan 4 drape - Rosaline 5 with call , that another comp @brittle summit

brittle summit
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Does Rosaline need to be higher ascension than E+?

granite chasm
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if you have fodders yes + rowan / but its ok she gonna dodge athalia jump by walking away

brittle summit
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I see.

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The second setup got it done for me. Thanks for helping me out.

granite chasm
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np ❤️

fallen cliff
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This is my current heroes guys, I can also get saveas or shemira ascended

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What would you suggest as line up for King's and story mode

granite chasm
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frontlines hogan lucius / backline safiya belinda rowan , rowan need to be in the middle @fallen cliff

fallen cliff
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That's what I was using, but I started getting better results after switching safiya with tasi, is it gonna be better to invest on safiya? Also, should I start investing on either shemira or saveas?

granite chasm
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your LB team really nice better to focus LB with faction scrolls + shemira with Lab coin , i don`t think you gonna need saveas

fallen cliff
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Alright thank you :)

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One last question, which line up would be decent with shemira?

granite chasm
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Shemira Brutus tasi nemora lyca / sometimes switch tasi or nemora for arden + there other team lucius shemira rosaline rowan fawkes so many options , but i still prefer 5 LB , because shemira can`t carry very good after chapter 23 or 25 @fallen cliff

fallen cliff
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Thanks a lot :)

granite chasm
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np 😄

sage depot
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Help? 😭

granite chasm
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shemira 1 with dura blade - Brutus 2 with dura Eye - tasi 3 with dura call - nemora 4 with chalice - Lyca 5 with dura grace @sage depot

orchid yew
granite chasm
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Grezhul + nara @orchid yew

sage depot
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Didn't have the Chalice for Nemora but I got it THANKSSSS

worthy island
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Also, should i have someone else at 240 instead of estrilda?

sage depot
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I'm not sure but replace Town, with Nemora, then put Nemora top left (behind Brutus) and try to get her to charm Saveas...

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Replace roen*

trim swift
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Not much to do but wait I think? My Fawkes dies rly quickly, but Merc Fawkes dies even faster lmao.
Belinda also getting shredded quite quickly :/

slender hearth
granite chasm
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Brutus 1 with dura eye - shemira 2 with dura blade - nemora 3 with chalice - lyca 4 with dura grace - 5 tasi with dura call @worthy island

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Shemira 1 with blade - brutus 2 with eye - nemora 3 with dura call+ good boots for mspd to charm arden fast to make him root his own team - tasi 4 - lyca 5 with grace @slender hearth

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let belinda to be in middle @trim swift

worthy island
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Shem just gets put in the coffin

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@granite chasm nevermind. it won without me looking, idek how but thank you! 🤗

granite chasm
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lmao np 😄

trim swift
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Not really much luck positioning Belinda in middle. This is just one of those frustrating stages where I probably need to restart 10000 times. Thanks tho

granite chasm
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np / yea that floor take me alot of re tries @trim swift

unique gazelle
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not sure if this is the right spot, but I'm looking for some guidance for my best possible guild hunt lineups against both bosses 🙂

granite chasm
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for wrizz / Belinda 1 with dura Blade - Lorsan 2 with Dura Grace - 3 Rosaline with Dura Call - 4 Rowan with Dura Drape - 5 Twins with Chalice @unique gazelle

unique gazelle
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thanks you! if anybody's got any soren ideas, I'm very open for suggestions 😉

granite chasm
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np Alina + i`m looking for soren ideas as well 😄

tall forge
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Been stuck here for a long time, any tips? I’m saving my mercs for boss stage since it will be pretty much impossible for me

granite chasm
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same formation just swap brutus with shemira @tall forge

tall forge
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Aight I’ll try

amber escarp
pale kettle
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Help me please 🙏

granite chasm
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you need Erionn for wilders tower he can make it easy @amber escarp

harsh frost
granite chasm
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@pale kettle Shemira 1 blade - Brutus 2 eye- Nemora 3 chalice or drape - lyca 4 dura grace - tasi 5 with dura call

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@harsh frost shemira 1 blade - Brutus 2 eye- Nemora 3 chalice or drape - lyca 4 dura grace - tasi 5 with dura call

pale kettle
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Nemora charm arden ? @granite chasm

granite chasm
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yea

amber escarp
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@granite chasm Thanks for the tip, i haven't been lucky with eironn pulls unfortunately. I managed to do it when i reset shemira and leveled nemora to 220!

granite chasm
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np , i wish you luck with erionn pulls! 😄 @amber escarp

formal hawk
pale kettle
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when nemora manages to charm arden, he puts these roots before and traps my team
sorry if my english is bad i use google translate

granite chasm
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shemira merc 1 - brutus 2 - tasi 3 - nemora 4 - lyca 5 @formal hawk

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@pale kettle give her dura call for MSPD that might help

formal hawk
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@granite chasm thank you so much, I didn’t think my wilder trio would be strong enough but it worked ❤️

granite chasm
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np ❤️ @formal hawk

limpid quail
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@formal hawk stargazer is not a powerspike by itself only if you planning to invest heavily

formal hawk
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It gets me L+ Lucius then it’s just waiting for food to get him mythic

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Which for me is a pretty decent power spike for frontline

limpid quail
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@formal hawk not guaranteed you get the hero. But it's your choice to use it obviously. Just wanted to point that out

granite chasm
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i don`t recommend stargazing as well its really waste @formal hawk

formal hawk
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You get a guaranteed hero on your first stargazer 10 pull, and I had tickets from the Halloween event

granite chasm
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oh tickets are nice , i though you gonna use 5k diamond my bad @formal hawk

formal hawk
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I’d never stargaze with diamonds lmao

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I know that ain’t worth it

limpid quail
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It's not proven to be guaranteed by the devs. You maybe have a higher chance

formal hawk
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Well I got it so I’ve just gotta wait on the food for mythic

worthy island
wise merlin
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@worthy island use Rosaline instead of Rowan, see if she can survive better.

If Dreaf gets charmed it could help you a lot too, find the right RNG ^^

leaden snow
onyx blaze
granite chasm
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can you show me all your heroes @onyx blaze

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shemira - lyca frontline / Nemora tasi Ferael backline @leaden snow

onyx blaze
remote vault
granite chasm
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do you have dura blade ? @onyx blaze

onyx blaze
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ye its on shemira atm

lyric crest
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can anyone help with my lineup

granite chasm
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Shemira 1 - Lucius 2 with chalice or drape / 3 rosaline with call - 4 rowan - 5 fawkes with grace @onyx blaze

lyric crest
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thank you 😁

onyx blaze
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take to long for shemira to get ulti when she is up but i will retry a couple of time with this setup, thank you @granite chasm

granite chasm
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np ❤️

ripe garnet
granite chasm
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you have good team just re try for some rng

ripe garnet
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@granite chasm same position?

granite chasm
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yea @ripe garnet

ripe garnet
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@granite chasm alright thx

granite chasm
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np

jade idol
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already tried lucius nara,fawkes,rowan

urban delta
clear saddle
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@urban delta There's a guide in the pinned messages in #classic-questions this will help you first with some issues you currently have 🙂

gleaming flax
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19-40 i am stuck help

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@ʎɐpsənʇ#2955

steel patrol
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(Refer to above) here’s my ‘best’ team by power level.

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And here are the heroes I have. Any suggestions? They hardly ever die. Too much synergy.

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Thanks in advance

ember bane
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@steel patrol use 4 LB and Orthos

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And make use they heavy gear

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For relics always go for Icebringer firebringer moonshine suntone poison
And use your Duar's tears when your best heroes dies as they no use saving then @steel patrol

steel patrol
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Thanks I’ll try

ember bane
glossy pagoda
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It's 17-40 and sadly quite fitting for a chapter endboss. This was pretty much my best run so far. Every one but numisu was under 10% health at the end, but even with ferals healreduction their sustain is insane. Also tried shemira and grezhul merc. But rowan performed easily the best for me (crappy gear doesnt bother him). This rowan has chalice as his artifact, should i try to get a rowan with better si/ascension and another artifact? Or do you see another route i could approach here? Will post my unit options in a short while.

clear saddle
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@ember bane move your nemora in place of tasi, move your tasi frontline against saveas and eironn middle back or bottom back.

glossy pagoda
pale kettle
tall stump
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i have horn on nemora and trying to outspeed and charm that arden but that hasnt worked

jade idol
glossy pagoda
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Maybe Brutus 161 with shemira17x and 141 crystal works here. But chapter endboss are quite hard without merc. I can't even beat 17-40 with merc atm.

limpid quail
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@jade idol put shemira in front of niru, you want t kill him fast. nemora has to charm ferael and he should not be rooted to attack his own team, maybe switch in tasi instead of arden (you dont want her to banish ferael though). requires some good rng and probably lots of retries

dreamy mirage
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Stuck here on floor 19 smth towards end

limpid quail
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@dreamy mirage switch you frontline, you dont want shemira thrown around by ogi and nemora with lyca to charm ira

dreamy mirage
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Kaz 2 shots shemira

pale kettle
limpid quail
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@dreamy mirage then try this:
nemora charm kaz
shemira
lyca
brutus
arden

jade idol
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@limpid quail how tasi will not ban ferael

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if he's the strongest o.O

limpid quail
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@jade idol it was meant this way: if she banishes him, dont use her in the lineup.

jade idol
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even when everything goes ''perfect'' i can't do shit, nermora charms ferael, lucius ult, but i still lose

limpid quail
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@jade idol put shemira in front of niru was my first advice. he heals when friendly units die near him

jade idol
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every tank other than shemira

spare aurora
tall stump
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need help beating 18-40 :o gotta beat chapter asap for gold emblems

jade idol
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dies instantly on grezhul side, if i put Brutus in frton of grezhul he dies and kill my cc, if i put lucius he takes 1 hit and dies

glossy pagoda
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You could try brutus there at 161 if u dont mind the reset cost

jade idol
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he's 162

glossy pagoda
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Oh nvm, had still the earlier pocture in mind

silent wraith
jade idol
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that was my first line up, before switching to lucius

silent wraith
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just keep trying wit that lineup

tall stump
jade idol
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@silent wraith what are your levels/ ascencion tiers?

tall stump
silent wraith
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@jade idol its not my SS, it was the bot p[layer who used to play, but if you enlarge the img u can see the levels

jade idol
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nvm, bugged out reso first time

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so, buddy.....his team is basically all 160, lowest level 150, mine are 140

glossy pagoda
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Try on nemora, but if she cant charm arden fast enough, probaply on arden instead. And arden on another position is less likely to hit root on shemira (who gets banished, right?)

jade idol
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also his team is L+ E+, mine is E+ or L

tall stump
limpid quail
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@tall stump well thats exactly the lineup i linked for you 😉

tall stump
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yeah tasi helped i didnt think her banish would help even tho i was using fawkes

dreamy mirage
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@spare aurora try using baden on soren

rain oriole
dreamy mirage
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I passed it with Tasi tanking :)

rain oriole
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Oh ok,gz

dreamy mirage
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Yea summoned a celestial twins, 2 shemira and 1 nara with gems faction scrolls from finishing the chapter :)

rocky hawk
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was thinking of LB but everyone seems to say Wilders are best for the beginning but am I still considered beginning?

limpid quail
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@rocky hawk wilders is always the safest choice. but depends on what your lineup is? are you LB heavy or playing wilder backline?
Yes you are at the end of the beginning. Early game is until hero lvl 160. midgame is 161 to 240

rocky hawk
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is Wilders trio that good? honestly I feel like I could never replace my Belinda by Lyca

limpid quail
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@rocky hawk well lyca gives haste to everyone on you team and can reduce the armor of enemies. also you actually dont need 2 carries (belinda and atandra). Also i dont think rosa is the best support for antandra because she dashes into the enemies and rosa has to follow her

rocky hawk
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hmm so if I do switch out to Wilders should I go for Tasi first or Lyca?

limpid quail
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@rocky hawk antandra probably benefits more from lyca. i havent use antandra at any time though

dense hawk
pale kettle
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yes, stop making L's.
Belinda
Luc
Rosa
Estrilda
Tasi
you're missing Nem and Lyca, the other two heroes in the Wilder trio. i would aim for them.
@dense hawk

sweet pasture
pale kettle
#

who does Sil jump to?

sweet pasture
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Tasi

pale kettle
#

does she teleport away fast enough?

sweet pasture
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Yeah she lives

pale kettle
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does she live long enough to be useful?

sweet pasture
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Nvm I just beat it

pale kettle
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bruhhh

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well gz anyways HoganLUL

umbral zinc
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you prove brutus to shemira , shemira to tasi and tsai to lyca ??

ember bane
proven thunder
glossy pagoda
#

Try swapping brutus and Saveas, if it doesn't work out, try
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi

plain pewter
#

24-38

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Nvm just beat it with the same formation

tall stump
trail wraith
tall stump
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How do i beat it? Ive tried a few times and nemora charms arden and shemira locks him up

glossy pagoda
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U really want to fit in your own lyca here, to fight haste with haste

tall stump
trail wraith
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o I already tried the 3 wilders backline, they just get 1 shot in a few secs

tall stump
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took me 5-6 tries you really need lyca speed and nemora to charm enemy arden use horn on nemora to outspeed

rain oriole
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Might take a few retries if you want to do it with a 160 crystal

tall stump
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ive tried shemira frontline she gets oneshot

barren badge
rain oriole
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It will take alot of retries, you want good RNG, if you can get Arden to root kaz and their Arden on his first 3 roots Shem should survive, try call/grace on Shem, eye on arden @tall stump

trail wraith
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Yea when I try it, my Arden and nemora dies before their first root and charm

surreal venture
glossy pagoda
#

Saveas 160 Belinda 141 Lucius 142 rowan Estrilda, is probaply your best wrizz comp atm

barren badge
#

Worth 40 gems to reset just for guild?

glossy pagoda
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If you dont have much much better mage gear then agi gear, saveas should be your best attacker anyways

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If u really want to use shemira over him for now, lorsan is probaply a better support then estrilda for guild hunt. Still 141 belinda should be worth it over rowan in any case, since its a more important uograde for her, then for him

pale kettle
#

5th Ascended - who makes most sense to go for (i.e. where to spend faction scrolls)?

quartz creek
#

Heelllp me 😭😭

zinc wren
steep lark
glossy pagoda
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Maybe fawkes instead of shemira? Or can't ur saveas solo carry anymore atm?

primal bridge
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Try Nemora instead of Belinda.

surreal venture
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I too am still stuck. Is it just a level thing at this point?

lime nova
glossy pagoda
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@surreal venture bring everyone except Lucius and saveas to 121. Then upgrade saveas beyond 140 as far as possible. If u lack dust, bring a few guys to 120 only

brisk heart
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Please help I’ve been stuck in the lab at this Fight for over an hour I’ve tried so many different teams and so many different lineups and nothing is working I can’t break through this

sweet pasture
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just use a tear

brisk heart
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I have used four

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It doesn’t make a difference on this fight though because I can’t kill a single one of them

glossy pagoda
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U know that you can retreat befor u lose?

brisk heart
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That’s what I’ve been doing

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Otherwise I would’ve needed to use about 100 tears

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But every once in a while they killed me to fast before I can pause

glossy pagoda
#

Well any chance you can just build your first L tomorrow, and use him as carry?

surreal venture
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Alright, thank you.

brisk heart
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I am able to get either Kaz or Belinda to legendary right now, but not L+

glossy pagoda
#

How about mirael or Saveas?

brisk heart
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No mauler food unfortunately. This is my Mauler account and I have a lot of Maulers ready to go to legendary but no fodder

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I do have a Mirael I could take to L

opaque prairie
glossy pagoda
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Its ur best bet i guess, especcially if u have also a Rosaline, mirael center backline deals tons of damage after 121 and you can probaply bring her quite a bit further it seems

brisk heart
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I got through with Mirael carry. Went from 11 tears to only 4 left lol

glossy pagoda
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I once used up all my tears and even had to use as many diamonds as the fight rewarded in return for hero resetting, to complete a 3rd floor in hard mode. I studied the tier list for relics afterwards and it helped me to avoid something like this for now.

sage depot
#

This rage is getting to me 🤧

pale kettle
stoic haven
still oar
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Try put vurk behind khasos so poison+axe throw. And if you can +10 him khasos it would increase your chance.rng them. If you want to merc maybe good warek @stoic haven

stoic haven
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+10 him?

still oar
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Try
Luc

Lyca
Nemora
Shem
Tasi.
Rng so arden got charmed and root his mates.
Which stage is that @pale kettle? 18 40?

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Signature item @stoic haven

stoic haven
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ah right gotcha

pale kettle
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@still oar 18 to

still oar
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18 to @pale kettle?

pale kettle
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Omg it worked thank so much and I meant 40 omg ur the best what faction should I redeem scrolls on?

still oar
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Wilder @pale kettle

pale kettle
still oar
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Lyca(Arden)

Shem
Arden(lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Root kaz and charm estrilda @little sparrow

stoic haven
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thanks @still oar got me closer but think i need thst sig item upgrade which will take time

little sparrow
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Aight ty

sweet pasture
still oar
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I am not sure I always overleveled in towers. But theoretically could. If you can resonate vurk and use rng his poison with axe throw or whirlwind and fire seed it's possible @sweet pasture. +10 Khasos woul make it easier tho and put him up front and pray he throws more than 1 and critical

sweet pasture
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Don’t have vurk unfortanely

still oar
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Oh, Then try borrow +10 or more khasos

woven lichen
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@sweet pasture A safiya might help too since all of them would cluster together for her ult and her shield reduces damage from thane.

indigo jolt
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If you can merc a Warek, i almost guarantree you can clear, due to his 181 skill.

proven thunder
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how do i position this? morvus is usually banished so my saveas cant dps him, but if i but saveas on top, the golus and enemies saveas would just demolish mine

maiden gull
woven lichen
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@proven thunder That setup seems ok. Nemora should be charming Saveas at top to help you out while you kill everybody else. Tasi sleep and nemora heal should hopefully help you take down the saveas eventually too. Otherwise, you could try putting in arden in place of nemora or lyca

proven thunder
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my nemora cant survive since brutus dies too fast, he cant even pull his spin off. should i level brutus so he survives or keep on leveling saveas

pale kettle
woven lichen
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@proven thunder if the tank isn’t surviving long enough to allow saveas to kill everyone... then need more crowd control or level up the tank some. Leveling saveas to the point where he can tank and life leech works too

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@pale kettle you probably want Nemora top to charm Arden. Shemira could be where Lucius is at

pale kettle
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@pale kettle have you tried making Nem charm Arden so he roots his own team?

little sparrow
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@still oar the lineup came nowhere near working

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I tried like a a bunch of times

still oar
little sparrow
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Aight

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Ill try again

still oar
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Same dealio I think

pale kettle
#

Getting nowhere lately

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Keep getting rootbind

little sparrow
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Omg thank you

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Should i keep that formation for the next stages

little sparrow
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Aight now im on 14-37 now

pale kettle
#

Help plz I’ve been stuck on this level for 2 days

weary cobalt
still oar
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Try
Belinda

Rosa
Rowan
Hendrik (luc)
Luc(fawkes)
Who does fawkes coffin @pale kettle?
And try not ascend to legendary too many for now on and focus. If you haven't read them check pinned messages in #lineup-help and #classic-questions

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Can you resonate Arden @weary cobalt?

weary cobalt
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@still oar hes just a blue.. cant make him to E, and yeah im not making any legendary soon i need the fodder for mytic so i can keep levels my 5 heros over 160

still oar
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It's okay
Try
Arden(luc)

Brutus or luc (lyca)
Nemora
shemira
Lyca (arden)
Charm ferael first before he cc you. If he CC's you firstly restart

weary cobalt
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@still oar ferael get charm but root as well

still oar
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It's okay Charm lasts longer

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The point is to make ferael cc his mates first before he may cc yours

weary cobalt
still oar
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Yes, if luc can't tank try brutus orLyca front so Lucius can slam his stick first and don't take all the initial attack

agile root
weary cobalt
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@still oar thx for help i got the victory, i put meira instead of lyca work very well for me took me 20 minute to win

fading cipher
still oar
#

You can try nara instead of athalia

granite chasm
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Lucius 1 chalice - fawkes 2 with dura grace - Belinda 3 Blade - 4 Rowan Drape - 5 Rosaline with Call / even E rosa might work @fading cipher

west nacelle
granite chasm
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use all your faction scrolls at Lightbearers + keep buy shemira with Lab coin @west nacelle

trail wraith
still oar
#

Replace brutus with luc

pale kettle
#

Heyy, Im so close finishing chapter 11, so by any chance is there any way to pass this one? My main problem is Estril

plain pewter
still oar
#

Nemora

Luc
Rowan
Shem
Rosa
Charm saveas @pale kettle
Does Rosa luc or Shem?

pale kettle
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Oh dang never thought about that will try out real quick

trail wraith
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team still dies before ult, i tried using same relics as well

still oar
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Can you tell me what happened precisely @trail wraith?

pale kettle
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@still oar ehh unfortunately nemora doesn’t charm sav, also shemira dies pretty much instantly on first row both positions

still oar
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Rng it so nemora charm saveas and try swap Rosa and Shem post put grace on Shem and call on luc or Rowan
Also any chance you have arden' @pale kettle?

trail wraith
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lucius dies during his ally heal animation, shemira gets rooted and killed in 4 secs by enemy shemira's silence thing, arden gets dies in first few seconds 70% of the time. best run i had so far was arden survive to root once, niru charmed, shemira died at 99% energy

pale kettle
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@simple jacinthm Yeah I do have him although just elite tier, which might not cut it. I will try to swap relics as you mentioned and try to rng

still oar
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So Arden didn't get rooted or controlled in any way. Try root or cc him since this is important especially in the beginning @trail wraith.

trail wraith
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👍

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@still oar i dont usually survive long enough for arden to root if it flinches

plain pewter
#

My post still above if anyone can give advice. Thanks in advance

pale kettle
still oar
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Can you put better boots on him or nemora and try the second comp @trail wraith

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He needs his speed and put grace on him so he can't dodge

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Unfortunately I can't see the video rn @epik#8963 @epik#8963 😅

plain pewter
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Well thanks anyways I beat. Good luck with your situation @pale kettle

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Didn’t have al the stars in your comp regardless so may have not worked

trail wraith
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i switched clean mythic gear from nemora to arden and put on grace, and got 1 root off in about 60 tries, shemira got off ult at 5% hp

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this is a difficult floor

still oar
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It is unfortunately

trail wraith
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welp thanks for the help tho

woeful fjord
neon crater
#

Stuck 10-8. Help pls

granite chasm
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Saveas + brutus + Lyca + tasi + arden / when you start get faction scrolls use them at Lightbearers faction / Keeb buy shemira from Lab by this way you can have very balance team for the future @woeful fjord

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@neon crater send screenshot for 10-8

neon crater
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No hope? Lol

granite chasm
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Kaz 1 - Brutus 2 - Arden 3 - Lyca 4 - Saveas 5

neon crater
#

Kaz as frontline?

granite chasm
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yea

muted imp
#

been stuck on this level for a few days now any idea on how to bet it

neon crater
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@granite chasm isn't she an assasin?

granite chasm
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yea she Tank + assasin @neon crater
Reset nemora to lvl 180 + lvl belinda to 200 @muted imp

muted imp
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@granite chasm ty

granite chasm
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np

wintry ether
granite chasm
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estrilda 1 - Hogan 2 - Arden 3 - thane 4 - Nemora 5

wintry ether
#

No dice :( o well. Should I be looking to transition my team at all?

polar current
#

24-60

idle oriole
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@wintry ether keep retrying

trail wraith
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@still oar I switched Brutus with tasi and completed in about 200 reruns for the rng

still oar
granite chasm
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@polar current fawkes coffin raine ? can you show me all your heroes

wintry ether
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@idle oriole it's not even close they kill me before I kill one of them l0k

idle oriole
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Ik but u just need good rng.. If not wait a day lvl up some more heroes and retry again

wintry ether
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Alright. Should I sacrifice my Hogan into my estralida when I get another elite+?

idle oriole
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@wintry ether Hogan's decent early game, keep him for now

granite chasm
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@idle oriole shemira 1 - brutus 2 - arden 3 - nemora 4 - lyca 5

lone meteor
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Have Tasi, Nemora and Lyca L+. Have barely enough fodder to bring one of them to ascended. Which one should I choose ? :(

polar current
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@granite chasm dont have rain

granite chasm
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tasi @lone meteor
@old ore you need fawkes

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@polar current i mean who does fawkes coffin , Raine or thane

last hemlock
old ore
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@granite chasm i have zero. Do i buy him now from Challenger store?

polar current
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he uses coffin on raine

granite chasm
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@old ore yea

old ore
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But he's gonna be E

granite chasm
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shemira 1 with dura blade - rosaline 2 call - rowan 3 drape - lyca 4 Grace - 5 lucius Chalice @polar current

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@old ore yea you just need his ultimate to remove Brutus immunity + coffin khasos or any of this brutus

old ore
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@granite chasm then who do i replace, lineup?

granite chasm
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Rosaline 1 dura call - Lucius 2 chalice - Belinda 3 blade - 4 rowan drape - 5 Fawkes Grace @old ore

polar current
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@granite chasm got absolutely destroyed xD

old ore
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@granite chasm i have neither blade nor chalice

pale kettle
granite chasm
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@polar current i`ll send you DM for many SS different line ups
@old ore eye on belinda + Drape on Lucius

polar current
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kk ty :3

pale kettle
old ore
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Nope, everyone dies

pale kettle
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Niru like solos my team cause he keeps getting his hp back repeatedly lol

summer sentinel
#

I've had that issue too, I believe I cleared it by putting Rowan frontline, and swapped positions of backline heroes until being able to have Shemira live through Brutus' spin. Also helped with Vedan (damn bats).

pale kettle
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@summer sentinel I had my shemira live but she couldnt out dmg or out heal niru lol

summer sentinel
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Yeah, not to mention his execute of low hp 😦

pale kettle
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Yeah exactly

summer sentinel
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Well, at least you didn't feed your shemira and brutus early levels to get Hogan legendary+ 😄

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I've made all the possible mistakes in game, before level 40

  • oh, this message timer is a bummer, i type fast. and a lot...
limpid quail
#

niru has no execute per se, its just damage to the enemy with lowest HP

plain pewter
#

24-48 thane is unstoppable. You can’t even find him. Ults 10 secs in lot the fight and kills 4/5 enemies soon after EDIT: beat with shem Rosa Fawkes Rowan Lucius.

glacial brook
#

Any tips on 24-14?

plain pewter
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@glacial brook take out of your mages for Rosa. Bel or Shem

lone meteor
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Need to ascend units since i'm at 160 lvl cap and stuck. My team is Brutus, Shemira, Tasi, Lyca, Arden/Nemora. So I could really use a Lucius. But I'm missing 4 to bring him to ascended. (There are 3 L+ Hogan's in the bottom row). Who should I ascend to m+?

glacial brook
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my biggest problem is athila. always struggled against her

strange meteor
rapid bluff
#

Hey! Got a little question about Niru here. I'm gonna buy Shemira from the labyrinth store as soon as I can. Was wondering if it'd be worth it to replace Niru with her, even though he's Elite+, or should I wait until I can make Shemira Elite+ before I do? I'm aware Niru is supposedly one of the worst heroes around, but he was my 1st Elite+ and has carried me for a while before I got lucky with Eironn

lapis oar
vast bobcat
glossy pagoda
#

What are your available mercs? (Atleast i was unable to beat it without)

vast bobcat
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havent got any yet, still waiting on acceptance

glossy pagoda
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I beat it with Belinda 180 Lucius 180 fawkes 150 merc rowan and estrilda 150. Maybe shemira +4lb is the way to go for you

vast bobcat
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yeah belinda deals massive dmg

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or if i can get rosaline for haste

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the main problem is nemora, cause as soon as i get them down to middle, she regenerates them

glossy pagoda
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Ye when i arrived there, my main carry was fereal si 17. Even with his healreduce i only ever killed of numisu a single time.

vast bobcat
#

i would love to have ferael

glossy pagoda
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I would offer you mine, if he still was available

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My belinda still is, but probaply not to great as a merc

vast bobcat
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lets see if i get at least one good merc today lol

glossy pagoda
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Good luck with it, if not you hopefully atleast get mythic stuff from afk rewards later then.

vast bobcat
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yeah hope, need more mythic gear

umbral wraith
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have also tried having Rosa where Arden is and Golus instead of Arden which at best leaves me in the same 1 vs 2 scenario

glossy pagoda
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Maybe safya and golus instead of fawkes and rosaline?

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And then try weither arden or fawkes do a better job

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Or maybe tasi, personally i like her more then arden at your level range

plain pewter
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Nvm. Completed with Shem Lucius rowan Rosa Ferael

west depot
bitter trellis
alpine lark
bitter trellis
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Change Belinda for Arden

cerulean hamlet
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@west depot Can you post your entire hero lineup?

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@alpine lark Do you have a Tasi?

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@bitter trellis
Nemora

  • Brutus
    Tasi
  • Lyca
    Shemira

Evt
Nemora

  • Shemira
    Lyca
  • Brutus
    Tasi
    If shem can survive kaz
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also make sure to give nemora the best boots you have so she charms faster

primal bridge
glossy pagoda
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You probaply want to have shemira on one and the to mythic at another Team. What is the situation of your mythic gear? Maybe pm me so it doesnt clogg up the chat here.

granite chasm
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@primal bridge
Team 1 - Shemira 1 - Lyca 2 - Nemora 3 - Arden 4 - Tasi 5

Team 2 - Lucius 1 - Rosaline 2 - Fawkes 3 - Rowan 4 - Belinda 5

Team 3 - Brutus 1 - Skreg 2 - Saveas 3 - Athalia 4 - Numisu 5

primal bridge
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Thanks, I'll try that.

true zephyr
#

shuld i chnge team?

pale kettle
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reset talene, tasi, and nem and put them on crystal, level three other e+ heroes so you can break level cap. at this early on in the game, saveas should be your carry. @true zephyr

true zephyr
#

soo what team comp you reccomend?

agile root
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18-36

pale kettle
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Take out gawks and Belinda put lyca Arden

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take out fawkes and put nem in his place, take out bel and put in lyca

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If you don’t have Arden def get it

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i'd get nem to charm arden so he roots his own team

quaint warren
#

Hello guys I need help on this one I can use mercenaries aswell

agile root
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Didn’t work any other suggestions

pale kettle
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am i blind or do you not have a nemora? @quaint warren

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@agile root what chap/stage?

agile root
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18-36

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Just can’t break the cc from Arden ogi and nemora

pale kettle
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can you send a screenshot of the stage and your hero roster?

agile root
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I’ve tried all the anti-cc I have and just can’t break through lol

pale kettle
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keep resetting until your nemora charms arden and roots his own team

agile root
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I have 😅

pale kettle
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well does she charm arden?

agile root
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Yeah but it doesn’t last near as long as it’s supposed to it seems or the other nemora charms either of mine and then I can’t get the Shem ult

pale kettle
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what lineup have you been retrying with?

agile root
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Row
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora

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Tasi can’t stay alive so figure I’ll at least have potions on the field for scapegoat

pale kettle
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were you putting rowan at top back?

agile root
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Yeah

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In that order

pale kettle
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why? i'd put him in the middle back

agile root
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Ogi squishes him

pale kettle
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i'd keep resetting until nemora charms arden

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this will require some rng but with some patience you'll pass it

agile root
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Well see lol I’ve got two days into this stage so far and i haven’t gotten remotely close yet

pale kettle
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i've been stuck on a stage for a week out of pure laziness and when i finally hauled my ass in an effort to pass the stage, i just hit retry over and over again

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sometimes it's just rngrosamagic

quaint warren
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@pale kettle i only have her once so just purple basic nemora

covert stone
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Very new player heree. I've been using this lineup from chapter 2 till chapter 8. Now i'm kinda stuck. Probably have to do with the levels. But is there anyway I can improve hero-wise? Maybe I can try to get a hero too if it's needed..

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thanks btw 🙂

quaint warren
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At low level try using as much as possible arden and saveas

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They help a lot!

covert stone
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Who should I change? Or change the whole lineup?

pale rover
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@covert stone ^ I'd replace Tasi with Saveas (build him up) if you want a team bonus.. you can also replace Rosaline with Fawkes for crowd control. Play around with those heroes and see what team gets you farthest.

covert stone
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Alright got it will try. Thanks a lot @quaint warren @pale rover

indigo jolt
tawny jewel
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@indigo jolt yup..

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@indigo jolt silvina on rownan right?

indigo jolt
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99% certain, as nara should pull immediately after he immunes

alpine lark
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@cerulean hamlet no i do not

scenic frost
dusky copper
limpid quail
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@dusky copper if you want to use shemira, go for her. support at E is fine, but your carry should always be at highest ascension possible

dusky copper
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@limpid quail thanks!

loud pivot
pale kettle
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take Nem off crystal and reset Thoran. level Nem instead. take out Shem and put in Nem. ideally you don't want two DPS heroes in one lineup. @loud pivot

sudden gulch
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Can someone help me pass this level pld

glossy pagoda
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Use more supports, rowan and fawkes for belinda and saveas

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If thats not enough, frontline shemira instead of brutus and Add nara opposite of rayne

wicked pelican
lofty depot
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@wicked pelican Make Nemora charm Arden so he roots his own team

shell hamlet
indigo jolt
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@shell hamlet 20 - 23
Unsure, if if my setup will work for you unless you have decent agi gear for Lyca.

sly shadow
vernal quail
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LB 140. Would like to get this cleared today if it’s possible with what I’ve got.

indigo jolt
vernal quail
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I'll have to see if I can get a merc in time.

shell hamlet
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@indigo jolt send it anyway

indigo jolt
shell hamlet
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@indigo jolt think it’s worth using a merc?

indigo jolt
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@shell hamlet No idea, only issue would be, would you even have decent gear on the merc, as that supplies all the dodge.

lofty depot
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@indigo jolt didn't work, any specific artifacts?

hidden panther
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Help pls

weary cobalt
glossy pagoda
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You have Fawkes?

weary cobalt
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@glossy pagoda i do have one but only E

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need to pay 100 diamonds tho if i want to put him in the crystal

glossy pagoda
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He usually works at that just fine, well try
Mehira
Lucius
Nara
Shemira
Rowan
first i guess

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Would have recommended fawkes at mehiras position, have no experience with mehira myself tho

sudden gulch
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Ty @glossy pagoda the nara worked perfectly. I was able to steamroll through to 16-12

glossy pagoda
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Thats nice, ye 16-12 is tricky with 181+ enemys. But atleast you have the chance at mythic gear, if your stuck there for a few days

sudden gulch
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I was at like 14-24 yesterday, I'm so glad to hear I can start getting mythic from campaign itll help so much

barren badge
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I am getting demolished...

glossy pagoda
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@barren badge av
Try
Shemira
Lucius
Nara
Rowan
Fawkes
Maybe switch the frontliner if it doesn't help. And there is the option to switch to saveas carry, who should be able to survive in the frontline.

formal grail
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Just reset everyone. Who should i use going forward? Maulers arent cutting it up front

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Im thinking Lucius, Melinda, and Nemora for sure. But the other two im stuck. Im currently stuck on 7-32

idle oriole
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Uhm ok so maybe first just don't make any unnecessary legendaries as u can get stuck there and it's potentially a waste of fodder.
Seeing as u don't have a good enough saveas rn try getting more shemira copies and level her up 20ish levels above all ur other heroes.

For now u could try
Belinda
-shem
Rowan
-Lucius and one other.. Maybe zolrath but I've never tested him so can't say for sure @formal grail

barren badge
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@glossy pagoda reset shemira for him?

glossy pagoda
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Yes

barren badge
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Few tries and I'll reset shemira if I'll fail, shemira has 2 mythic 3 star items saveas will have legendary 5 stars total items

shadow marsh
sturdy gust
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Use Saveas at 160

shadow marsh
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with who else?

sturdy gust
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Lucius, three Wilders should work!

indigo jolt
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@lofty depot Still stuck?
Probable setup was, Rowan- Call, Tasi - Eye, Lyca - Grace, Shem - Blade. Unsure what merc had.

lofty depot
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@indigo jolt I made it but stuck at 36 now. Pretty sure I have the right lineup but I just can't pass it

pale kettle
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6-28 not 62-8

carmine cloud
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@pale kettle Stop leveling everyone. Level 1 hero (your dmg dealer) to your max level and then level others untill you can level your damage dealer again.

Read some pinned posts. Saveas should be your main carry up untill 160. And at 161 shemira takes his place.

still oar
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Who is the bait? Rowan
Try
Tasi

Shem
Rowan(Arden)
Lyca
Nemora(Arden)
Blade Shem
Call tasi or Shem.
Charm or root grezhul, and Silvia maybe @carmine cloud

carmine cloud
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It actually worked. Thanks! Call on shemira, perfect charms and tasi teleports + rowan managed to get his ult off.
I guess my problem before was that i tried all my CC on enemy Shemira and not grezhul.

little sparrow
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I could reset my shem/nem to get my bel higher

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I will be able to get my brut to M+ after this chapter

carmine cloud
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You really want your shemira in front to take dmg, so she gets her energy up faster and she can outheal the dmg.

paper spear
pale kettle
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Replace rose with zolrath because he could restart time and buff himself so you have a higher chance of winning

novel adder
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@pale kettle i'd try something like
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Shem
Try a few times and observe if nemora's charm is going through.. if it is.. rng until you can charm the arden to root his own team.. if its not passing through, put better mage boots on nemora.. and worse case scenario put dura's call on her.

pale kettle
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Ok thank you

novel adder
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@paper spear im not very experienced with gorvo.. but i'd try some repositioning
Nemora
Hendrik
Rosaline
Gorvo
Belinda
The idea is to limit khasos axes.. and hope nemora charms the saveas..

carmine orbit
carmine cloud
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@paper spear I'd recommend you going to #classic-questions and reading pinned messages there. In this channel pinned messages are also good.

That will give you the basic understanding of the game. You could probably get much, much further with your power if you leveled your heroes correctly.

pale kettle
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@Sorrowin#7353 I have no idea how you did it but I won after 2 weeks of failure

little sparrow
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Again, and arden roots half my backline and half the time my shem

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I can reset some heroes

paper spear
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Appreciate it @novel adder, got pst it after a spam of tries with just Belinda standing

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And I’ll give it a read @carmine cloud

novel adder
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@little sparrow
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi
Similar to pugglesworth's case, you need to try and charm the arden.. watch closely if nemora's charm is going through.. if it is then rng til you charm arden and he roots his own team.. if it doesn't put better boots on nemora.. if absolutely necessary add dura's call on her for speed. After that its about rng to charm arden and kill everyone before ira gets to ult.

little sparrow
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Aight ty

novel adder
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@carmine orbit another charm arden case.
Tasi
Brutus/lucius
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
check if nemora can charm before root.. otherwise put better mage boots on her and worse case put call on her.. also try iterations with lyca front in place of brutus/lucius and maybe rowan behind shem.

pale kettle
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So, I started fresh with newest server, and first I rolled Belinda and Isabella, I know belinda is worth to ascend but is Isabella worth keeping and levelling? I mean I got stuck last time for having wrong comp and i couldnt get any better line to high enough ascension level to be worth

little sparrow
novel adder
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@surreal venture i'd try saveas on bottom side.. golus tanks too much
try maybe
Numisu
Lucius
Belinda/nemora
Brutus
Saveas
I think nemora might be good because i suspect mirael might be a problem with her shields and flame balls.. try to charm her with nemora if the first formation doesn't come close after some tries

surreal venture
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Holy fuck, that did the trick. Nemora saved the day but barely. Golus nearly out lasted Saveas with that healer behind him keeping him up. Thank you so much

novel adder
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@little sparrow generally if shem can survive frontline, you want her there.. because she generates her ult faster..in this stage, arden might be specifically more useful than nemora.. 🙂 so
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
arden must root khasos.. so restart immediately if it doesnt happen. as you climb you will realise the pattern of opponents are roughly similar.. so try to take note of what is working and how to deal with specific problem units..earlier it was the arden+lyca combo.. etc.

little sparrow
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@novel adder tasi punishes khasos at the beginning

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At the same time arden roots him

novel adder
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@pale kettle generally all ascended heroes are worth keeping.. The thing is however there is somewhat an unspoken priority order of heroes to bring up due to their different powerspikes.. isabella is most notably more lategame kind of hero.. so leveling her now might not be the ideal..you'd keep her until later.. I'd recommend you focus on legendary tier heroes early game.. they are equal and sometimes better than ascended tiers at level 1-160.. so use them for now and they will be excellent ascension material for your priority heroes later..
Have a look at the pinned tips and guides we have available in the #classic-questions channel.. i think that would be pretty useful for you to get a good foundational undestanding 🙂 if you have follow up questions..feel free.

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@little sparrow oh if thats the case you can rng for arden to root everybody else instead XD. main reason why khasos needs to beinterrupted is because the axe will interupt or kill arden usually.. so you stop him before he stops you..

pale kettle
sage depot
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Not sure of what to do

little sparrow
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@novel adder i tried so many times, im gonna go back to my normal formation tomorrow or the next day than if THAT somehow doesn't work im gonna try w bunch of others, if THOSE dont work than i dont even know

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The problem isnt the CC its just not enough damage

flat gyro
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Should I put Rowan and Rosaline in for nemora and Fawkes? 2 L+ replacing two ascended?

green vigil
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Help with lineup? For soren

still oar
green vigil
flat gyro
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Numisu is always a huge help for me against Soren. Makes him attack the totems behind him before he attacks ur heros

green vigil
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I have tsai right now but just got sheepgirl, should i use her instead?

flat gyro
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I'm no expert but I would do Lucius and Shemira front, Numisu sav and Lyca in back

still oar
pale kettle
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Thanks!

gritty sail
still oar
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Try
Shem. Nemora. Tasi

lyca. >>>Brutus. >>>Lyca
Tasi. Lyca. Athalia
Brutus >>>Shem. >>>Shem
Arden. Arden. Nem;arden
Root or charm Arden and if Arden rooted yours first restart the fight @gritty sail

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In the second comp root Arden and charm ogi

gritty sail
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Ty @still oar

rugged ice
hollow thistle
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Hey guys i need a good mauler lineup for faction towers, please help 😄 im thinking numisu pairs best with safiya?

pale kettle
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why in the world do you have safiya on crystal? @hollow thistle

hollow thistle
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All my other heroes are A except for brutus who is M and i only just made safiya A now

pale kettle
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@rugged ice take Bel out and put Lyca or Rosaline. ideally, you don't want two DPS heroes in one lineup

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reset Brutus then and level Safiya. @hollow thistle

hollow thistle
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What difference does it make i dont have 25k dust to go beyond 180 at the moment anyway

pale kettle
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just so you have it ready, 25k dust can go by fast if you buy the 500 dust in the store for guild and reset gold bounties

hollow thistle
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You reset bounties??

rugged ice
pale kettle
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Lyca
Brutus
Rosa
. Luc
Bel
@rugged ice

rugged ice
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Maybe I’m not strong enough yet bc I got massacred with that

pale kettle
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switch Bel for Shem maybe

slate swift
pale kettle
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have you tried the meta? @slate swift

slate swift
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Lowkey don’t know the meta @pale kettle

pale kettle
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lol don't worry, I didn't know what that was either until i joined this Discord server @slate swift

slate swift
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@pale kettle I’m trying to learn more about the game now, otherwise I’ve just been logging in and it got me here

pale kettle
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ahh i gotchu. the meta is Shem, Brutus/Lucius frontline, Nem, Lyca, and Tasi backline @slate swift

slate swift
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How does Arden stand in the meta because I see people using him

pale kettle
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he is provides good CC like Tasi. he roots three of the enemy team members for a short period of time

viscid saffron
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So I'm a beginner 2 days in, still on 5-20/tower 55. Cleared lab twice so I have currency for an unit. Currently running Lucius Estrilda Lyca Ardan Thane, Lucius 80 Thane 61 rest 41, additional ascended tier being Khasos Skreg Safiya. I'm almost sure I should get Nemora first and run her over Estrilda, but people say Shemira is good so there's that. I should be going for Nemora, right?

sand rune
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Mauler 149. Any suggestions? I’ve been stuck here for two weeks.

vocal saddle
still oar
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Try
Numisu (safiya)

Brutus
Khasos
Vurk
Warek
Your dpw should be khasos in this scenario @sand rune

sand rune
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@still oar thank you. Do you suggest I put the sword on Vurk or Horn?

still oar
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Honest it would not that much of different with your current I mainly use him as dps after 240+ or 250+ before that still shem @vocal saddle

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Horn @sand rune

sand rune
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👍🏽

sand rune
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@still oar no luck. Everything just melts. Good armor and everything. The Nara is just brutal and the Silvina hurts.

worthy swallow
still oar
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I expected so. Every nara stage is pain

sand rune
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It’s funny, you get rewarded with more fodder after beating these levels, but need fodder in order to ascend your heroes to beat the levels. Oh well.

still oar
edgy flower
quiet falcon
granite chasm
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guys does anyone have good line up for soren

olive thorn
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@granite chasm can you show what you have

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Need all your e as well ❤️

granite chasm
olive thorn
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No talene unlucky, so I'll say to you to try this one : 1/ Belinda 2/ lorsan 3/ rosa 4/ warek 5/ twins, need to be played on manual after 2 warek ult for keep him behind soren @granite chasm

granite chasm
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thank you i`ll try it ❤️ @olive thorn

olive thorn
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Also you've good lorsan so he will block fine soren charm before warek

granite chasm
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works very well , thank you again ❤️ @olive thorn

olive thorn
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💪

stray pine
ember bane
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@modern python Need advice plz ty Grave 24-18

modern python
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@ember bane

ember bane
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@modern python not works well

strange bobcat
#

Anybody have info on Arthur yet?

gleaming nacelle
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Help please

neon crater
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Help for lineup pls, stucked at 10-10 now. Is there any hope?

pale kettle
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ufff almost a week on this stage, read even in patch notes that it has been reworked 11-38, yet its still completely bananas. Any ideas how to pass?

gleaming nacelle
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@neon crater put khasos and brutus in the front

neon crater
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I tried @gleaming nacelle still can't proceed

sterile canyon
gleaming nacelle
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@pale kettle I would put shem in front and take out nemora and put in belinda then put shem in front of the horse and lucius in front of the wolf dude

pale kettle
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hmm problem with shem is that she dies in pretty much instantly @gleaming nacelle

gleaming nacelle
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Put the drape on her

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Do you own the drape?

neon crater
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@gleaming nacelle enchaced equipment and tried several times with khasos frontline. Succeed now. Thankss

gleaming nacelle
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no prob ❤️

pale kettle
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whats the drape @gleaming nacelle

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oh lol nvm found

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well it works now a lot better though still something missing :/

gleaming nacelle
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the drape on her and the dura's grace on lucius

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try and get the artifacts from peaks of time it makes a difference

tawdry gulch
junior stratus
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Anyone can give some suggestion on 25-26

pale kettle
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thanks @gleaming nacelle managed to pass it! :)) any tips on this lat one?

summer sentinel
#

Maybe swap Rosa with Shemira and put Athalia top? if that fails, same plan but Athalia mid?

pale kettle
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hmm will try that, cheers!

summer sentinel
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cheerio. good luck!

junior stratus
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No One One to try mine 😂

summer sentinel
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Your level is too high and I haven't been in those fights yet, so anything I'd say could potentially be useless, sorry diozzolo.

junior stratus
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Np 😅

unique gazelle
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tried 2 days ago, but didn't get an answer, so...: has anybody got an idea what my best Soren lineup would be?

pale kettle
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@summer sentinel unfortunately any of these combos with athalia work out 😦

summer sentinel
junior stratus
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@unique gazelle try this.

summer sentinel
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i'll come back later this evening with two screenshots of my accounts. I'm pretty sure the answers I will get, while smart, will not be what I want to hear (you are so dumb, why did you buy that, why did you ascend that) 😂

olive thorn
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@unique gazelle hey 👋 can you show me your lower ascends aswell

pale kettle
unique gazelle
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After that there is only redudancy

olive thorn
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try this one

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Rosa
Belinda
Lucius
Lorsan
Twins

junior stratus
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Any tips on this ? 😭

glossy pagoda
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Use shemira frontline and rowan rosaline for belinda support

plain pewter
twilit forum
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I dont have rowan and rosaline

glossy pagoda
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Show all your heroes Kirby, atleast fawkes looks promising for this srage

glossy pagoda
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Rowan needs to be center backline

glossy pagoda
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Use
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Fawkes
An do it manually so you can undo brutus imunity with fawkes asap

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Maybe switch fawkes and belinda if nemoras charm interfers to much

twilit forum
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Rowan still in middel? Cuz still didnt work

glossy pagoda
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Who is the first to die at your Team? I had 180 lucius for this, so you might lack some tankiness

bitter trellis
pale kettle
twilit forum
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@glossy pagoda either rowan or shemira die first

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Got to last w guys just noe

glossy pagoda
#

You can also try to switch the frontline or use full lightbearesr with lucius and estrilda at front. That was my setup:
Fawkes 150
Lucius 180
Rowan 172 (merc)
Estrilda 150
Belinda 180
Took me a few tries though

glossy pagoda
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Gz

sterile canyon
rain oriole
bitter trellis
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Thanks i will try

junior stratus
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No One can help me with mine ? 😅

pale kettle
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Ur to far in game :p

proven magnet
plain pewter
#

Guess my post got skipped

lapis wharf
#

Holy crap @proven magnet

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Thanks for keeping this game afloat 😂

pale kettle
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Facts

stray pine
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@proven magnet people trying him with Gwen and haste stack . Give Twin/Lyca/Gwen/Arthur/Twins a go. See if you like it

pale kettle
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I was thinking he would be good with twins and a lb team

glossy pagoda
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Ferael might love faster attacks too, more crits, more ghosts

lapis wharf
junior stratus
#

@proven magnet you far as me, try help me 👀

pale kettle
scenic frost
lapis wharf
pale kettle
weary cobalt
woeful fjord
sterile loom
#

haven't been able to observe talene much in battles yet, but if I am primarily running a fereal + lyca as damage carry combo, does talene or the twins work better?

I'm thinking about something like

Fereal
Twins
Athalia
Thoran
Lyca

lapis wharf
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@woeful fjord that’s exactly what I ran

steel patrol
#

Any lineup recommendations for 13-36? The mages are my problem, with their ults.

glossy pagoda
zenith tusk
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Nvm, i tried it 10 times and in one of them shemira killed 1 one person and ulted again, so i won

violet igloo
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@zenith tusk you can take out rosa and put arden instead, he'll root 3 ennemies and give your shemira time to build ult

light kite
zenith tusk
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Thank you @violet igloo

carmine orbit
delicate ocean
light kite
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@carmine orbit Use your own arden to counter his arden, really. Instead of nemora

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@delicate ocean what stage number

delicate ocean
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@light kite 22-60

carmine orbit
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arden cant take one hit and he just dies :/

light kite
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@carmine orbit even if you place the best gear on him and and try placing him in different places?

violet igloo
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@zenith tusk you're welcome 🙂

delicate ocean
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@carmine orbit use Brutus in stead lyca

carmine orbit
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i can try different areas but otherwise yes, but i did just get him to l+ just now

light kite
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If you use brutus instead of lyca, don't use arden

limpid quail
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@light kite i think best is to use a high ascended warek merc. brutus front so he gets thrown into 2 naras for his ult may also help

light kite
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only got a high ascended brutus merc. Maybe I can get one

delicate ocean
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@light kite idk how but holy crap what? I beat but what? I don’t understand haha

light kite
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CC

limpid quail
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@delicate ocean try arden for belinda to root athalia after she jumps

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well nvm

light kite
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@limpid quail But is there someone I should replace in crystal? got a spot open atm

delicate ocean
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@limpid quail haha thank you anyway haha. I’m still in shock

carmine orbit
light kite
#

stupid CC lineups work on many stages

novel adder
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@light kite i beat it with
Vurk
Numisu
Khasos
Brutus
Warek
basically merc carry warek.. i think 210 warek.. 180 everybody else iirc.. but that was pre-sig update..and required a lot of rng.
But i think a merc khasos with sig unlocked can carry much easier these days

limpid quail
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@light kite dont think it will matter, cause your backline will be pulled by the naras anyway. numisu got a buff in the last patch though

light kite
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Alright, thank you both! <3

proper ether
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Can someone help me with my lineup? I'm stuck on 6-36 and I dont know who to main

vocal python
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Belinda it’s verry good