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my nemora/lyca/tasi are too weak, die way fast
well tasi is only bait for silvana, lyca for the haste and nemora should charm estrilda, then they are allowed to die when shemira is able to ult after killing estrilda
yeah got that, but still the rest die very very fast. maybe i need to level up first. Think i'm gonna be stuck here for a while
@vast bobcat you can also switch it around tasi, brutus top and nemora, shemira bottom. the video is only 22 seconds of defeat screen for me btw
oh sorry will try what you suggested and see
its rng based though so its probably taking more than 10 retries. its not 1 lineup and instantly works
for sure. i always run about 20-30 runs before i drop a formation
22-2 not really sure what to do on this one
@pale kettle Put Athalia instead of Tasi, so then you could disable Morvus and get a faction bonus of 3/0 + 1 Hypogean
If possible you could also put Mehira in the middle so her ultimate move will effect all of the enemies.
Reason why I said it is because Athalia leaves the bottom side of your team and goes towards the enemy, so Rowan effecting only Shemira, and Mehira can also work out.
Wouldn't hurt to try, in my opinion ^^
need help!!
@ornate totem Fighting hasted enemies without a haste of your own (not to mention of the fact they gain 100 energy from Lyca's Awe) is near impossible, consider a Wilder trio in the backline or 2 Wilders + Athalia on Arden
Make sure you can fit Lyca in.
@wise merlin i had ben wre unlucky with wilders so the susck even more!!
Maybe nara lyca athalia backline, atleast it has haste and faction bonus and keeps the annoying back line busy
@glossy pagoda sorry but idon thave nara
Well thats sad
you can try get a mercenary
have no more for this weak
🤷 If you're not going to at least try then what's the point in asking for help. @ornate totem
Keep at it until you'll be able to pass it, no stage is impossible 🙂
ok
Hi! Need advice for Soren.
When nobody dies in the beginning, I'm reliably getting 16 chests. But if Soren charms Isabella before whole team gets shielded by Nemora, Isabella takes down Belinda and/or Nemora in 2 hits. It started when I ascended Isabella.
Tried several lineups, but they are either dying, or can't reach 16 chest.
can i pass this? lel
yes you can.
Tasi
Brutus
Shemira
Lycas
Nemora
18-32.. help lol
@violet igloo ill try that. thx brada
@agile root try out this
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi
How can I defeat the devine realm with that team, so I can get shemira? I can make it to that team but brutus kills my brutus or lucius and it‘s a slippery slope and the next team absolutely destroys me without either of then
@violet igloo got wiped in first 10 sec. brutus banished. is that normal?
she banishes the most powerful enemy
finally got the last Artifact... my main team is Shemira, Lucius, Rowan, Rosaline and Fawkes... who should have which one?
oh yeah. will try brut without gear
The enemy with highest Attack, so if brutus is hurt, theres a high chance he gets it
@austere nova u fnished solar plane with that lvl? wow
Shem has Blade, Lucius has Chalice, Rowan has Call, Rosa has Drape, and Fawkes has Eye... @wild tree yeah... lol, had to defeat all the camps before i could go after the solo bosses. it was fun!
seeing that, kinda regretted going wider route. lel
all my characters have M*** gear... so i think that helps too... and all SI weps +7 or higher....
but nvm, sooner or later i'll get my 5 coies of lucius
@remote musk you could try level 161 Brutus, play on normal speed and ult manually. U want to brutus ult during the enemys brutus ult befor it pops ur invul so you will counterheal it.
With that he(the enemy) should be in invul mode first
Kinda lost if I should transition into something or just keep pushing LB. Any help?
@glossy pagoda I need 5k more dust though, guess Imll have to wait a little more, thank you!
Well u can also reset nemora for 20 gems, if thats worth it for you
@remote musk reset nemora to 160 and make brutus 161 instead may solve that problem
@shell ocean LB progress is slower in the early mid game, but great in lategame. its more like a personel decision for you. most people switch to the meta team with shemira,brutus and wilder support trio
nevertheless you should overlevel your carry 20-40 levels ahead of the rest of your group
cheers, i dont mind resetting since im pretty new and like to try things out if i can get progress out of it
Ye resetting is cool, only the autolevel up fearure is annoying. Only the option to jump to(almost) highest level. But i switch my highest hero often for more progress in faction towers.
@limpid quail i did that and it works a little bit better. Do you know what relic would work the best? I can have 3 before that
21-53
@wise merlin thanks that worked for some reason I tried like 30 times I was losing a lot and hard than the one time I don’t look I won
How tf do i beat two shemiras lol
@pale kettle Lol! congrats, happy it worked out for you 🙂
hey guys I have stuck big time, enemy is just slaughtering me, by any chance could there something be done differently? Maybe respec some heroes... Really stuck :/
guys i just started what a good team with this heroes? what hero shuld i look for?
@pale kettle move shemira out of saveas' way
Do this:
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Saveas
ohhh hmm interesting will try that
@remote musk best relics are probably fire and ice bringer combination if you can get those
@true zephyr saveas is the best early game carry so start investing in him. You can find helpful information for your start on the pinned messages here and in #classic-questions
Please help
Need help making a team that is good pretty much anywhere, did a lot of upgrade yesterday and today so I'm lost. Still fairly new any help is greatly appreciated
@knotty cedar in general you have a lot of good heroes but the lightbringer heroes might be hard to raise to higher levels. I’d focus on one of them since you need more L+ to get to M or M+. (Can see which one you can get two elite+ copies of so you can ascend them later... Rosa is the closest)
Hows my line up and any tips on vs brutus hes strong at this point any advise thabks in advance ^^
@ocean crow put your brutus opposite of him instead of Lucius and put nemora middle for a better chance to charm saveas
Oh ok ty 😊
I need help on this level, without using merc
I had 2800 power on this level, you are trying too hard ;D
Guys is this a good team or should i swap something around
@pulsar breach I almost crossed it with this lineup, I'm just gonna tryhard
Hi hi @pulsar breach
Give me 3 optional team for tournament pritty please
@dark current, cool, I can't do it. :)) I have no ascended Farael, well you will be stuck further ;d
I mean, I passed it but I am 1000k power higher.
@violet pecan use all wilder (Nemora, tasi, lyca, seirus, eironn), lb (Lucius, Rowan, Rosa, estrilda, Belinda), and Thoran, Brutus, shem/Isabelle, Ferael, nara
@woven lichen i thought of the same... but my friend wont listen.. i need confirmation
Is this 3 setup good for Tournament or there some better?
@violet pecan that’s probably the best line-up for now due to faction bonuses. Could insert Fawkes or Gwen potentially in LB too.
@ember bane that’s probably an ok line-up with what you have
@idle oriole are you losing due to Silvina killing Arden? If so, could use nara on her or Rowan to tank the initial hit
@idle oriole Swap Nemora for Tasi and move her behind brutus, make sure her defense is lower than Arden's so silvina jumps on her. She should survive if you get okay RNG with her blink
Will still take some RNG but is pretty doable
@cerulean hamlet @woven lichen thx for the advice guys will try it out
Wow worked first try lol thx
@pale kettle
Lyca
- Shemira
Nemora - Brutus
Tasi
Make sure your nemora has decent boots so she's able to charm arden so he roots his own team
It'll take a bit of targeting RNG and rng for tasi + shem to ult but once that happens you should be good
@cerulean hamlet already test and doesn't work
Help plz, or even what would be a good merc to help
shem need rosa or she die because her ulti is not suffisant
How many times did you try it? It's heavily RNG dependent for targeting but should work, Evt you can put lyca frontline and shem backline if she dies too fast 🤔
@carmine kiln You could use a Nemora and arden there, esp nemora to charm their aren
i need another comp ;-;
I don't really think you have a better option than that but you could opt for LB supports instead like Fawkes/Rowan/Rosa if you want to :/
Ok thanks fish, does matter nemoras position
Yes, who she tries to charm (who is in range) is dependent on her position, you'd replace Lorsan with her in that comp.
Shemira
- Lyca
Tasi - Brutus
Nemora
Or so, maybe Arden over Tasi if you had him as well
@pale kettle if wilder doesn’t work, you could try Rowan and Lucius with Rosa. That should give you plenty of healing... but you will be vulnerable to rooting by Arden
How to beat plz?
@woven lichen
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lucius
It is it ??
Try
Tasi(Arden)
Lyca(brutus)
Rowan(lyca;Arden)
Shemira
Nemora
Nemora charm ferael. If she didn't charm him first restart @torpid cosmos
Okie ill try, ty
@still oar got destroyed badly
Charmed ferael, that grez ohkos the top half until shemira and nemora are left
and . . . and for me ? ;-;
@pale kettle yes or Lucius at top depending on what is dying first. Rosa will make it to shem anyways
@pale kettle what if you did
Rosa
-Brutus
Rowan
-shemira
Lucius/Belinda
Dont know why ferael is so annoying, even if nemora charms it and shem kills him he magically has my team with haunting??? Does his sig haunt upon death? Thats the annoying part
@torpid cosmos
I need help at the 23-52, thanks
Would feeding my Belinda to Lucius and replacing her with Elijah/lailah be a good move?
Bad, really bad one @cinder veldt
@cinder veldt That type of question is better suited for #classic-questions but no, you should never feed an ascended tier hero to another. Esp not when you're very close to a L+ Hogan
You can food ascended tier heroes but not at this level
Okay, thanks :) just been at a wall in 10-22 for a while now and really struggling to get past it
@cinder veldt be patient. It will help against future walls 🙂
@still oar ty
Any help please 😢
@dark current
Hmmmm thanks
23-34 solved
congrats
@violet pecan
Need help for 14-38
help pls. 20-54
why do you have two DPS in one lineup? @ivory breach
usually i have nem but wasnt working, was trying everything, with nem was just ulti after ulti and couldnt beat them, until they all ulti and i got wiped
Stuck on 22-20. My entire team gets squished.
Damn I'd help but I'm not that far yet
that's a fuck ton of Ls. @loud crow
that's not- you missed my point @loud crow
@pale kettle I probably did. If you could explain, would be grateful
this is what happens, at some point they just get wiped lol
@loud crow the point with going legendary is to waste food for others when you don't get the missing copies for L+ but I think this is not a problem for you when I see all those M and M+
@limpid quail I'm grinding the L+Max tiers to use as food to get everyone up ascended
18-13, Belinda gets coffined
@trail wraith try nemora to charm ferael
Floor 266 cant pass
@eternal pecan
You can also try Shem warek frontline but make sure kaz is rooted so she won't kill shem
Can he roots? Try better boots and eye or grace on him
@loud crow post a pic of the actual stage
@still oar he's getting hit for like 330k and only has 221k hp...even with my 2nd best set of int gear
It's fine. He is there to delay don't need to survive whole battle.
its in the firs like 3 seconds. Can't figure out where it's coming from
From kaz's counter. In that case try swap his position with nemora and root Arden+ulmus
Brutus against kaz unless you can charm kaz
Or nemora's normal attack he is at a level a simple touch would kill him
swapping arden and nemora worked. Thanks!
Stuck on 22-20. Everyone dies so quick.
supacrazy101, this command is disabled in this channel
@loud crow
18-40. Getting destroyed
Try
Shem(Arden)
Brutus
Arden (Shem)
Lyca
Tasi
Root Arden @lost solstice
Or mirror it
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
Brutus
Arden
@still oar I guess because my Arden is only E, it never goes off before theirs does. Probably stuck until I can ascend him :(. Ty though!
Your mspd mostly from gears. Put a better boots on him @lost solstice
@lost solstice try that, reset until nemo charms ogi
Will give both of those a shot, thank you guys so much
ty @limpid quail your tip to notbrandon worked for my 15-40 "nemora charm ferael"
You’re both angels @silent wraith @still oar been stuck for a week lol.
u r strong enuff to reach ch20 just need right form
@still oar were you @w? Yesterday?
Yes
I cleared 19-38 with your help, actually the second comp you suggested
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shem
Ty @still oar
Aye, congrats 
Best week of hoarding ever 20k diamonds 44 faction plus event
Any idea for this? The Estrilda is surprisingly tanky, cuz healers, so i have trouble reaching the Mirael who is the key figure here. Just put my athalia back on crystal and opened another slot i haven't decided upon yet (will post a pic of my not seen options in a moment). I could also build a L Hogan/Morvus (or Angelo lol), you' d say one of those could do the trick here?
@soft needle mostly you need to gain some power and summons before you find the E+ and L+ that will be your early game comp (L+ sav and others). that said your current lineup doesnt get any faction bonus (small but helps) and brutus is a great tank that you arent using
Any ideas? 8-4 im stuck
Id use mehira over shemira in ur Team, better abilities for low level and 30% def is better compared to the slightly better faction bonus. Also if u have the dust bring rosaline to 101, its a nice upgrade for her.
@sharp egret what's e+ l+? Thanks for your help. Who should I replace for Brutus?
@soft needle Elite is the purple color, Elite+ is when you combine two of them. you have some good Elite units but you need 2 of them to get E+, so you just kind of need to wait and see what you pull from summons (wishlist can help). some guides are pinned in #classic-questions if you are wondering more.
at face value i'd swap brutus for ferael and put him on the frontline, because I dont think Ferael does that much damage at this level and you already have Sav and Belinda (who has faction advantage over the maulers you're fighting). they are your damage dealers. Sav can be quite tanky like you're using him, but you have Lucius and Brutus who are both amazing tanks. this game is like a puzzle that you have to try and find the best team combo for each individual level, and then spam until you get good RNG
Suggestion for 22-60?
@halcyon oriole
Try
Nemora
Lyca
Rowan
Shemira
Arden
Root Arden and athalia. Mean while let me check some SS @halcyon oriole
SMH I wish I could pass 22-58, What did you use? @halcyon oriole
@pale kettle need a screen?
Yeah send whatcha got
Thanks, worked! Finally in stage 23 now! 👍
@pale kettle not sure anymore, but most likely wilder trio, Shem, Brutus
Suggestions for Vipers Marsh?
Pick kaz from merc camp and out her in front of thoran
Try maybe
Tasi
Kaz
Nemora
Lyca
Shem @sharp egret
Or luc>nemora
@pale kettle
Lyca is my merc but I can try kaz
@pale kettle
Oh then try luc>kaz @sharp egret
Rip, can't get through his first life. I think kaz is necessary from camp
I feel I can do better... right now with this lineup I get 14
@violet igloo i swapped tasi and shem. the stars aligned nicely. kt275
Just summoned some purple (yeah still New) and feel a bit lost in team building, I'll share my box if you don't mind to help
@silver void you should only level your five highest ascended tier heroes
Yeah I know, I was trying to get Tasi, lyca and nem but since thé rng only gave me Tasi and the twins, I don't really now who I should ascend first
Was thinking to get legendary shem, Tasi and the twins and sacrifice the others
sacrafice who?
Seirus, ira, silvina, vedan or neru since I can epic one of them,
@silver void you should keep saveas as he is very strong while under L160
All the ones that can't go mythic
Yeah but you aren’t going past a level where they are weak yet. Saveas helps you progress faster
So I play mauldr/gb with saveas and shem ?
Or I'm at a level where I just pick the strong ones without caring of team buildings
@silver void yes use a L+ saveas until you reach over L160. Then use him as fodder to get mystics. Yeah more about strong units for now
Alright then, is saveas, shem, Tasi, twins, grezhul ok ?
@silver void that’s ok but preferably have another tank/support. Don’t need shem this early on. Using Arden, saveas, etc would be much easier to ascend and use at this stage too.
Alright then, thanks for the tips
Okay so with this exact comp and artifacts my best Soren was almost 95+M
I ascended Lucius and Athalia, gave all of them the best gear i had, and leveled past 240 and now i cant even reach 90M tried around 15-20 times and all around 88-89M :DDD how can I improve my comp???
Ideas?
Any help with 7-40? First stage that has blocked me for 24 hours so may just well be I have to level people to stand a chance made Hogan L+ and subbed in Belinda for Arden and got it
Should I 240 Shem or 220 Tasi first? Sems like an obvious choice but Tasi's 201 skill upgrade is pretty strong, from 4s banish to 6s.
why do you have a Dreaf at 40
@umbral wraith try swapping saveas and rosaline
@pale kettle because why not, I'm hardstuck Hero Essence, have plenty of exp and gold
there's literally no reason to hold on to commons
Advice for 21-60, can't use mercs, I've tried nemora and tasi, swapping their gear between them
lord dreaf is the only exception
@serene basin
@serene basin its a matter of rng.. the one suzy suggested is good.. charm the arden to root his own team instead of using ur own.. estrilda in place of brutus also works for accelerated tasi ult and ulmus counter
though keep in mind that he uses that comp for legit every level so what works for him might not work for you. @serene basin
20-54, been stuck here for awhile.
I've been trying that, it's just I can never root the tasi, and she banishes my shemira, I don't get how my heroes are mostly ascended and losing when the screenshot you posted shows L+
i don't know how either, as you can see he hasnt even activated those heroes' sigs. @serene basin
@serene basin its really a matter of rng.. as with all of these wilder stages.. it should be the recurring pattern since chapter 17 or so.
you can try with call on shemira instead of blade
anyways can someone like help me lmao 
Will is still get call benefits even if she's banished?
@pale kettle do you still have an arden?
no but I can make one
@serene basin not while banished but the idea is to ult as soon as possible.. if tasi can ult and create an opening, shem's energy bar needs to be as high as possible to take advantage of it
240 shem has more than enough power for chapter 21.. so blade is generally not needed
So should I be using tasi or nemora,
both
Do no arden? Or lyca
@novel adder what am i supposed to do with Arden
@pale kettle i think yours needs a bit more specific rng
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Hendrik/brutus
Lyca
The rng roll here is ensure that estrilda and ira are rooted twice.. ideal charm candidate is estrilda.. hendrik should be good on ulmus coz it stops the first root.. im just more concerned his AI makes him jump back to protect arden leaving ulmus boulders to shem which might nort be good.. if that happens too consistently swap to brutus.
@serene basin keep lyca
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Estrilda/brutus
Nemora
with lyca, nemora can charm arden before he roots.. ensuring he roots for you instead.
thank you smmmm, i appreciate you. imma try that now @novel adder
Any suggestions for 4-36? Stuck pretty hard wondering if I reset estrilda and share the hero xp around? Or if I just need to AFK for awhile
@novel adder thanks tried estrilda and beat it
estrilda is perfect for ulmus stages.. grats @serene basin
stops the initial root.. ulmus early damage is bad.. so estrilda free reign buffs everyone. keep that in mind for future stages
@opaque prairie try only estril, lvl 1 give free energy to enemy
@opaque prairie 4-36 sounds about right for level 80 unit.. i think the troublesome part is the arden, ogi cc with kaz damage.. try a few more times with full LB team solely to buff estrilda's stats.. i wouldn't reset..i'd probably afk a few hours and get them up slowly.
@pale kettle yeah its a bit hard for you.. but possible.. since shem 220.. the rng is very specific for your win condition.. if you want i think estrilda merc would make it a tad easier.. if you have your own estrilda drop nem of tasi.
ira's ice arrow is bad for shem.. but in my experience bottom side with ulmus is worse..banking on roots and maybe a lucky dodge is preferable
Help with this please?
@novel adder i got it after putting call on Shem
nice
@pale kettle
@midnight coral hmm.. i'd run something like
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Baden
Estrilda/shemira
You might need to swap call on lucius or something or manually cast baden and lucius ults to dodge the charm.. its hard to predict from an outsider standpoint.
Anyone have a screenshot for 26-30?
@worthy bane
@worthy bane
@pale kettle appreciate ya
What about formation for the other one? Wrizz??
Any advice ? What hero should I level up ? How can I win this
Try Arden in the middle and nemora instead of luc and try charm estrilda and root Hogan @long gust
@novel adder that worked great
Or Arden top
I'm early game. Lineup suggestions? Not sure if I can use all my legendaries in one lineup effectively?
help? this is the last stage of chapter 20 and i really wanna finish it
You can try
Shemira(nemora)
Lyca(Shem)
Tasi(Nemo;lyca)
Nemora(tasi)
Arden
Standard root Arden and myabe charm ulmus or grezhul
I think I used something like that
Or just replace that lyca with tasi
I dont see what you're saying is the lineup with that, I'm just bad I guess XD
@midnight coral for wrizz you can run the same and do well.. but you can drop lucius for estrilda/shemira whichever you didnt use.. healing isn't so important in wrizz.
@inland kite >>> means frontline
and (unit;unit) are other potential options? or rather a second alternate formation
Something like this?
That's for Suzie @inland kite
Ardens interrupted every time
Hola on
@raw spoke you dont really have to.. you can run them all and see if you pass. if it doesn't then build around a carry.. i think estrilda or isabella right now.. you can use something like
lucius, ulmus, tasi, estrilda, belinda.. (light-wilder) and rotate to maybe lucius, izold, shemira, estrilda, isabella (light-gb) for different stages.. have a look at the pinned tips and guide in #classic-questions
Lol gZ 
@pale kettle id swap arden for tasi.. the goal is to charm the arden and let him root his own team.. (in that rng, double triple roots have too much overlap, tasi brings more) you can try hendrik in place of brutus and see how it goes.. but my default best unit to face ulmus is usually estrilda.
Golus is wreaking my team, help 😦
@proven thunder try
Belinda
Lucius
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas.
@lilac vapor do you still have an arden?
I'd try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Estrilda
Tasi
not working, lucius just melts from gollus and its chapter 10-29
@novel adder I kinda ate the Arden out of frustration 
@lilac vapor hmmm..
maybe
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Estrilda
Tasi
?
Nara is a counter but yours might be a bit weak. Tasi/Rowan could potentially survive a few hits too @pale kettle
I don't have Rowan, I think you're thinking of Rigby here, so I should put Tasi on the crystal and hope for the best instead of... Nemora?
oops its 10-19
How is one supposed to beat mauler 60???
@pale kettle Rowan. His skill allows damage to be mitigated and reduces energy instead of health. He can sometimes dodge and tank Silvina for awhile... might need higher levels. You can try tasi instead of Nemora or replace shemira.... only need one main dps overleveled
@pale kettle do you have safiya? High damage ult and reduces damage from thane
What level can I swap savaes for shemira?
@true zephyr replace shemira with saveas and use top 5.... can add tasi sometimes
@lapis wharf L161 is usually the swapping point
@woven lichen so should I reset Sav then and pump Shem up?
If saveas isn’t working anymore, sure
I find myself stuck at 11-38
Can give it a try. When overleveled, she can tank a bit and ult faster
@little sparrow you probably don’t need both Belinda and shemira at 160 ish... can reset one and pump the other one up
@true zephyr reset shemira, put saveas to be in charge, put best gear on him
Brutus is weak before 141
Saveas, lucius, arden, tasi, nemora
When you get lyca it will be better
@woven lichen so, almost done with the question, I can just overlevel like any dps and since I don't have Rowan I can try getting tasi on the crystal, that's what you're saying? also tried switching Shemira for Belinda, still not working
@pale kettle you need mercenary warek
He can stomp all 5 of the enemies at the same time with eas
@violet pecan crap:(
@pale kettle yeah can try putting tasi on crystal and see if she survives the hits. Could also try Rosa too. If you get nara, she helps to pull Silvina off mages
What tram should I use for wrizz / Soren ? Can't get higher to 45 or 20 M on both :/
@woven lichen thanks gonna give this a shot
@pale kettle Belinda shemira Rowan Rosa Lucius ?
What should my line up be?
@woven lichen on both ?
@pale kettle yep.... best party would be to replace shemira with lorsan eventually... and then Lucius with twins for wrizz
Shemira front right ?
Yeah, but I don't have neither of them x)
Oof that rosa probably follows the lucius rip
Nope
Even with 20 SI?
Yeah, belinda is 20k higher
oof clutch
😁😁
She got like 10-lvl more
Thanks @woven lichen , got to 70M
@pale kettle nice! As an FYI, even an elite twins would help a lot
Well, I've always hit hypogeans or athalia in my pulls, won't complain but yeah, maybe if they are in an even I'll take them
@lapis wharf you could try Nemora, tasi, lyca, shemira, Lucius/Brutus... or could swap Arden/Rowan for Nemora
To get a unit to 161 do others in my crystal have to be 140 or 141?
I think 121... you can have a 40 level gap
140 @lapis wharf
140 thank goodness
All she does is Dodge LITERALLY EVERY ATTACK she barely takes any damage at all
Any ideas on what I should do?
@uneven comet try using heroes with high accuracy like thane. Zolrath has a high amount too.
Help me pls
I think you need a merc for mauler tower 50, espaccially since u have no Saveas
Iam on 51 myself lol
What would be my best lineup now?
Any idea ?
@tiny olive depends on the stage. Lucius and Saveas frontline and twins backline should be good for any stage, where the twins live long enough to connect the frontliners with their lazors, for example.
@glossy pagoda ty very much
@mighty summit that setup looks fine... 25-56?
U probaply want brutus at bottom, vedan and shemira probaply do tons of damage to lucius, don't they?
run the above lineup about 50-60 tries....not even close...the bat foker wrecks everything
yes!!
Maybe with brutus bottom and both tanks at 180 and slightly weaker crystal it's doable?
tbh i had brutus at 180, but reset him so that i could get rowan up to 160 (he was 140)
@vast bobcat does shemira tank at top ok? If so, could also double the tanks on bottom. Or use the wilder trio and try to charm root people
Doing it manually might help too, since brutus ult counterheals best, when really low Health. Just try to find that sweat spot where he doesn't get his invulnarablity popped befor he ults, if thats possible
Which stage on 17 is this btw? Not sure if already fought that myself.
It's 17-4, i'll try capturing a video
Ok i did it alredy but my carry is Ferael so slightly different
@woven lichen yes 25-56, finish 1v1 best try
@mighty summit ah ok yeah that’s a tough stage. You can try to use or borrow an athalia in place of Nara too. But it takes a lot of tries. The new patch is supposed to tone down that level too
will try resetting the crystal and boost lucius to 180
Anyone got SS for LB 140?
how to beat? or do i need more lvls
@vast bobcat did you use team that for 17-3? where I find myself
@lost timber overlevel Sav. Ditch Belinda and Shem. Sav is a beast upto 160, then Shem takes over
Placing shemira on top looks weird, cuz ira heal reduction. Maybe bottom is better while hoping that ogi eats enough cc
@edgy flower what's the recommended lineup with overlevel sav?
Brutus Sav up front
Then 3 out 4 from Arden, Tai, Lyca and Nem
Arden probably the most vital imo
It’s got me upto 13-39 so far
Woot got through 17-3, then 17-4 second attempt @vast bobcat
17-6 is the first real wall in chapter 17 I feal, atleast for me. Fucking wilders with lyca
I'm there now, was just about to post my disappointment with another Ogi and Arden. Think I need an assassin in my line up
I dont even now if nemora has a chance to charm arden, with that damn Lyca, probaply not, or?
I can get Tasi to vanish Lyca and Arden to root. I reckon I can push through
Your arden wins root battle, with duras Call? Or does he have even mythic boots already?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/652433071026601984/image0.png any tips on team composition?
i'm on stage 8-20
@glossy pagoda I PMed you to keep this chat free
@edgy flower no bro, used Fawkes/Lucius/Rowan/Brutus/Shemira.
@golden night #classic-questions but anyways reset grezhul estrilda and silvina.. Only need to lvl up 5 heroes at a time
Then overlevel your saveas as high as possible.. Don't focus on shem or belinda until u can get them past lvl 160
k thx
Hihi help me please. Hehehe
Try
Arden(Shem)
Shem(lyca)
Lyca(Arden)
Brutus
Nemora
Arden roots Arden and kaz and nemora charm saveas @shrewd haven
@still oar tks dian sastrowardoyo. 😁 😁 😁
Any help ?
Use lyca so your arden wins root battle also isnt shemira tankier than Belinda?
pls help need this level to get 4 Mythic equipments
U already used merc for mauler tower this week? If not do it!
Also i like skreg and brutus being sucked by eironn here
Any idea here? I am lost
hey guys! Is there anyway to pass this stage? Here is current line up
Is saveas close to reaching L? He would easily outperform shemira here
Other then that, try to create a cc heavy lineuo here with not mich focus on heal. Ira reduces ur heal and diminishes rowans value here greatly
@woeful haven try
ferael
thoran
brutus
shem
nemora
Tried like 50 times
that specific setup?
Yes
@glossy pagoda well sav is somewhat near L, but only fodders I have for him is antandra and sav e+, not sure though if I should use antandra for him
I'd not recommend using her.
ehh ok well will have to wait either get L+ shem or L sav
Had a similar problem there with my alt. I build tidus L first and was stuck until i found 4th copy
@woeful haven hard to call, i reset my crystal to 200 to get my frontliner (grez instead of thoran) and brutus to 240 with shem, mercd ferael, and that did the trick
dang, yeah I feel ya, somewhat weird situtation
I guess just need more time + luck = next stage....
Getting ur 5th L (preferrable a Legend Tier hero like saveas or arden) might help since then you can reach 121 crystal in a few days
oh yeah that is quite possible will see how it goes, cheers for the help! 🙂
@odd python does not work :) all die so fast.. Best try I had with fawkes on top, he was able to kill that vampire guy.. But still ath kill everything on ulty
These cunts too stronk. Help
@next raven I’m also stuck on that tower level it’s a bitch
@west depot I literally just beat that level lol
But I can’t remember my comp
I think it was Brutus lucious front row then lyca shemira Rowan back
This is not doable..
Mauler 114 has been a thorn in my side for ages.
Khasos
Skreg
Numi ( would be better if u can use this as bait)
Brutus
Safiya
The correct scenario would be for the Silv to jump the Numi which then is hold off by either Brutus but looking ascension wise the Safiya might die first . Give it a try anyway
Any tips on how to beat this level?
@mossy ledge what stage was that
25-44
Guys.. I'm new to this and I have no idea what I'm doing.. I only did ascensions with copies so I don't waste anything i don't know who's nice and who's not
😩 why are you so lucky, you have so many good ones
That celestial 👀
I keep getting green ones 😒
That's nice to hear.. any suggestions? Best line up?
Stuck on 5-32 and getting pummeled. Any advice for lineup?
@icy lynx i heard celestials and hypogeans are op.. so mehira might help
@icy lynx I don't know much though I'm still trynna figure it out
Thats who i had at first on the team. But Suveas on the other team destroyed us
@surreal venture @calm hound any advice for the newbies over here?
@icy lynx try to put an tank upfront and mages in the back. And put ur hypogean in!
@icy lynx maybe put the lvl 80 up front against the toughest opponent.. he's a tank if I think
@icy lynx try to swap belinda with lvl 78
How about now?
Put your lvl 74 in.. she's been tough against me.. switch for the middle backliner @icy lynx
this ^
Yes
Holy crap it worked! Thanks so much!
Nice!
i beat my level too!
@sour fossil Try to use more lightbearers instead of wilders because of the factional advantages
Damn. you guys are really doing well
@junior sierra what is you question about it? General tips would be to overlevel your Carry by 20-40 levels
@pale kettle try taking out gawks first lyca rose for Arden try it a couple times aswell
22-8 any know what I should do
Yeah general tips would be nice but mostly formation advice and why?
So in this game is carry the highest attack rating or would it be like my archer/mage that are damage focused. Because right now my tank has the highest attack rating I believe @limpid quail
Can any of you guys tell who to level up and who to ditch? I'm stuck at 6-16
They only way ur tank can have the highest attack rating is if he’s over leveled I think you mean power rating and that’s based on ascension and level
@pale kettle Belinda has the highest I lied but my tank has the second highest. He’s got the best gear I have and he has is the highest ascension
Wait so what did u want to know? Like beat formation or?
@junior sierra carry is the one with the highest damage output, not necessarily the highest attack rating.
Lightbringer is a strong faction especially lategame, but will progress slower in the early-mid game.
To get familiar with the basics I recommend to read the pinned guides and game tips in this channel and also from #classic-questions
Will do. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction @limpid quail
@pale kettle yes best formation I could do
Probly Hendricks olmus in front Belinda farael and rose in the back
Awesome thank you
@pale kettle
Stuck here. Any suggestions?
Please help 
do you have Arden?
E+ arden now... tried previously with L+ arden but gets 1 shot by sylvina
Need some advice, Arden vines like twice in 15 sec
Fawkes coffins my safiya and it's gg from there. Any idea?
is Nem charming Shem? @chilly compass
Yea
then don't put a carry in that place
@chilly compass switch Shem and Lucius than put lyca instead of Lucius
That way ur nemora can charm Arden b4 he roots
There is no hope for the living. How to pass this lastt 😂
Any guesses to a better lineup?
@shrewd haven im stuck on the same one 
who should I set up for my wilder team? who should be my tank? serius or gorvo?
For the faction tower? I would go with gorvo for now in your case. He is already e+ atleast. And seirus is even more relient on stats and ascension than other tanks. He is a shop hero though, so maybe you want to build him up later as your wilder tank.
Gorvo, Eironn, Tasi, Nem, Lyca @grim bison
@spare aurora try
nemora
shem
lyca
grez
athalia
ah I see. ok thanks for the tips @glossy pagoda @pale kettle
Can anyone help with lber tower 140
Out of the heroes I have here, can anyone tell me a pretty optimal setup? I know Brutus, Belinda, and Shemira are really good.
should i upgrade fereal or shemira? theyre both level 120 and im stuck on 9-23
shemira all day
also how is brutus OP? My brutus sucks ass. he dies instantly after his immunity expires and does nothing before that
his strong point is his 7 - 8 seconds immunity
121-160 he is just ok
Lineup help on this level???
pre 121 his damage is reallly high, especially when he spins
also his 4 seconds invincibility allows heroes like saveas to dish out alot of damage
@steel patrol try using lyca instead of nemora
@steel patrol use your Bel as damage
my reasoning, is so that lyca can boost arden into rooting faster
@pale kettle thank you got it because of lyca
take out Ferael, put in nem, swap nem and shem. if you have Lyca or Tasi i would put either in Athalia's place. @split relic
it worked ty alot
is this a goood lineup to invest?
@true zephyr no since Talene will be really hard to ascend further unless you spend money at stargazing. It’s fine early on though. Might want to use Arden too for rooting
KT 275 please
@pale kettle @dry smelt thanks both you’re amazing it helped me
hehe but which one helped 🙂
am i simply just underleveled?
@obtuse oak not necessarily. Looks like you could use Lucius and Rowan with fawkes for faction bonus... maybe replace Brutus and lyca?
Pls help 19-37
that seems just straight up underlevelled ;I
@gleaming flax that looks like a pretty big power gap... but could try Nemora to charm Arden
@gleaming flax
You can try
Tasi
- Brutus
Arden - Lyca
Shemira
Maybe Shemira and Tasi positions swapped might work too? It should be okay if Tasi + Shem both manage to ult
NEmora charm could work but that'd need shem to get interrupted while casting silence
Mh, what if you swap Tasi and Shemira positions? Does Tasi survive to ult or does she get one shot by Ira?
one shotted by ira
Mh, you might just nee more levels then, evt Lyca top brutus bottom. You usually need them to be able to survive a couple hits
Fawkes coffins safiya then it's gg. Ideas?
@gleaming flax shemira up front vs Kaz can you survive long enough?
You could try using athalia to delay Arden's root
@errant minnow could try Warek on fawkes to see if he will toss and delay him enough
Hmm I'll try
@woven lichen ayeeeee third try
Not sure how warek did 0 dmg but it worked can't complain
@errant minnow nice! 😃
@gleaming flax this formation I used works well for alot of people, it's tough with a 160 crystal but definitely possible, it took me alot of retries and good RNG
Hi guys. I wanna go maulers mainly and secondary any other faction(preferably not lbs) . What do u think
I just have a larger account on lbs
I mean, its too early to decide what maulers to focus on lol
Okay thanks guys
@odd python thanks! I came the closest to beating it ~95%
Wooo finally passed 22-50!
Need help for stage 22-60, athalia wrecks me
Athalia is doom, Executor.
Tell me about it
Need help for LB 140
@wise stream you might be able to try...
Shemira
-Lucius
Rosa
-Rowan
Fawkes/tasi
Or maybe swap tasi/fawkes and shemira too
Help please.. i have been stuck for a while now..
Sorry.. not that stage.. I meant this one
@wise stream Rowan middle back will be immune to the first impact, put an Arden on the bottom back to root her
@warped peak try nemora for Rosa, either top or bottom
worked after like 20 tries ty lol
Yeah it's still rng based, congrats
any clues
biggest problem I have is the isabella and vedan wrecking my team at the end
I tried saveas around the block but I still end up with isabella at the end full hp and destroying me
Switch positions Brutus Lucius
Ok try
Nemora
Brutus
Rosa
Lucius
Belinda
@devout cliff
My nemora just isnt useful, silvina demolishes her too
You need a bait
Or silvina will jump straight to Belinda
Try and see if you can get 2 Belinda ults against silvina in a row
If you take out nemora she will jump to Belinda but I don't think you want that
Hmm, put better gear on nemora now she's jumpin rosa but that isn't doing much
Silvina jumps to the weakest mage hero
correct
You could also try taking out nemora and subbing estrilda in for 20% faction bonus
Silvine will jump to rosa see what happens
@devout cliff have you tried switching Nem and Rosa? Rosa will get to Bel faster and Nem could charm Arden so arden roots his own team
I have, nemora is just dying too quick to do anything
All you need is an ult from Belinda
Give her dura call, best gear etc, keep silvina away from her as much as possible
Getting close, just gonna spam till RNG gives it to me, Thanks for help
https://gyazo.com/05aa01d64dbd846c5ba2928939f2accf
What would be more useful to me for ML tower:
The setup seen here, or removing Saveas to A Brutus, and then popping someone else in for Saveas, like Satrana, or Khasos, or the new guy or something?
I know most people say Sav can be useful up to 80 or so, but I'm not sure if being able to A Brutus right now changes that.
I also give Sav my best agi gear, which is 4 mythic pieces, so Vurk would get that for himself.
@rich snow khasos is great when you have his sig, maybe try to build him, save the saveas until you can make khasos M with him
I wanna M Khasos before I A Brutus...?
your main priority with ascension is getting 5 ascended heroes.
@cursive thorn remove Numisu and put Lyca
Mmm. Okay. So A Brutus? Or just wait I guess?
Grez is a better tank than Rigby is. and stop making unnecessary Legendaries @cursive thorn
@rich snow yup go for A brutus then build the khasos it will also help you to break the crystal cap
you wasted a lot of fodder making heroes legendary @cursive thorn
what chap /stage? @teal galleon
21-41
i wish i had a screenshot for you @teal galleon
too much stuns i cannot do anything cuz athalia engage is too short
instead of Athalia have you tried Nem?
yw
@indigo jolt 21-54?
@teal galleon This?
ye i finished it with some artifacts swapings
Help ^
Nemora. Fawkes(Rowan)
Tank. >>>Lyca
Lyca. Shem
Shem. >>>Brutus
Arden. Arden
Root Arden and kaz and charm ogi or nemora+ogi @primal bridge
@livid quest
Tasi
. Luc
Bel
. Estrilda
Arden
Should I take Belinda to L+
Holy moly, it worked, thanks @still oar
And to level 120?
yes, just don't sacrafice any ascended tier heroes @livid quest
@livid quest I'd wait to see if get someone I can more reliably get to ascended. You should keep working on Shemira. I always hear people saying she doesn't carry like Saveas before 161 but if you can keep her out of harm's way she'll carry for you.
not quite, i'm recommending this specifically because LB have a faction advantage to Maulers and Saveas isn't very durable @livid quest
Can someone tell me who I’d use in guild battle? I’m thinking Lucius, Shem, Rosa, twins and Lyca
Bel is a good hero anyways
Getting Belinda to L+ won't affect me getting shemira ascended though, right? @primal bridge
@lapis wharf which boss? soren or wrizz?
Wrizz!
@livid quest it won't. they are in two different factions, therefore don't need the same type of fodder.
@livid quest no but you could end up spending LB fodder on someone you won't be able to ascend for quite a while.
I've gotten her to mythic and the devs buffed the wishlist @primal bridge
I'm still stuck, Frontline dies instantly
@livid quest you're missing the other two heroes in the Wilder trio, Lyca and Nem, who are crucial in the game
@pale kettle true, the wishlist buff has been great.
When was the wishlist buff
not that long ago. I'd say less than a month
What else can I do in the meantime
what POT are you at?
POT?
Peaks of Time
2nd one
do that one
My units aren't strong enough to do iy
when was the last time you've tried?
@livid quest yeah, start working on getting Dura's items, they'll help you a lot.
14-40
those L's are an eyesore @limpid owl
Yh ik
So much waster fodder 
Now lol
honestly, you shouldve gotten M Shem by now
@limpid owl try something like
Belinda
Lucius
Tasi/Fawkes
Grezhul/Shemira
Arden
And wdym working on dura's items
@limpid owl you need more CC
Ok ill try
@livid quest some POT's give dura artifacts as rewards for completion
@livid quest getting these, they're super helpful and important.
I should switch those around now that I'm looking at them lol
yeah lol, Eye would be better suited on Nem
I can't even do the 2nd POT :/
when was the last time you tried? @livid quest
Now
24-14
@tawny jewel try
lyca
shem
mehira
lucius
nemora
@pale kettle I tried like a second ago
@junior hound
Been stuck for a while. Main problem is enemies do so much damage and melt my team before Shem can ult
@odd python mehira gets popped by silvina
@sharp egret try Lucius up front and Fawkes where Lucius is.
@sharp egret when you are at 1/2 of enemies power level it means you are close to the limits. Try out different positions, or just wait to lvl up your team.
@indigo jolt is there a reason behind using an e+ gorvo?
@sharp egret i would use lyca instead of thoran tho and get lucius front line
@junior hound Jumps and interuupts Tasi's first banish.
Floor 60 Mauler tower
@tawny jewel try
lyca
athalia
shem
lucius/brutus
nemora
@odd python nah its not even close. The best i did was by using fawkes to box shem
@vivid knot That comp looks okay, but swap Numisu for Safiya and maybe turn off auto ults since you don't want to do it when they layer their ults. Safiya box will help reduce thane damage and haste a bit
@indigo jolt got it thanks! do you also have comp for 24-15 and 24-16?
@cerulean hamlet Done it first try ❤️ 👌
Grats!

@junior hound
@primal bridge since youre on the same one, the best comp of the different variants seems to be:
Fawkes
--> Shem
Lyca
--> Lucius
Rowan
Silv on Rowan. Main problem is that Silv ult will kill Shem from pretty high HP
https://gyazo.com/23b6ecd9a0c4fae757f6e233cea410d9
Is there a reliable comp to beat this? Or am I simply too weak with a 21 level difference to overcome this mountain of pure cheese?
Reliable comp is timing fawks ult for 3-4 brutus at the same time
@sharp egret your Rowan needs to be in the center. Also, that stage I couldn't beat with Lucius, I had to use Brutus.
Silv goes on rowan
I can't seem to get more than the front two to shield at once. So maybe just too weak.
wait how are you on 18 if your crystal is 180
I dunno?
If you wanna go indepth about that, DM me. Not really the place to talk about it
Anyone have a ss for 24-38?
Anyway through Wilders tower 40. I'm lacking dps. Worth putting anyone onto the crystal?
you need a tank @edgy flower
Guys if you have brutus khasos shem and grez on your team, which one you'll fill in the team? Thoran or ferael?
All mine survive, I thought dps was missing. I don't have Eirron
I could put tree or water guy on crystal, which of them does more damage? lorsan maybe?
May i hear your reason why you choose ferael?
you already have 3 tanks, brutus/shem and grez, thoran is primarily for tanking, fareal is good dps and cc
@edgy flower eironn is a good dps when you get him. But for now kaz
Hmm you right there'll be less damage output if you put thoran instead of ferael even tho thoran and grez have an additional bonus stat if put together.. Okay then thanks..
Is there anybody ch 23 and up?
Seems like wall for now, needed this one to get the LVL 40 mythic reward
Not me
@tawny jewel do you require something
Any recommendations?
I've saved formations of exclusively just each faction so selecting teams for faction tower is just easier @raven cove
@edgy flower Eironn is the best Wilder DPS atm even if he isn't a good DPS compared to the DPS' of other factions. Solise the new Wilder, iirc, is a true DPS
@edgy flower Lorsan is very good for DPS. I use him at Elite+ occasionally in the wilder tower and I’m on floor 147. Highly recommend him. Try switching him for Nemora or Arden. Probably don’t need all 3 CC mages out there
Graveborn tower 140. Help please lol
@edgy flower oh and also, Nemora is not good behind lyca unless you have a really good one because Lyca jumps at the beginning of the battle and leaves her exposed. Same for Arden. I’d put Tasi or Lorsan behind her instead
Advice on a good arena team?
22-58. hope it helps
Help me clear this round
Who is the gb near Athalia @delicate hazel? Is it legendary tier? If so use it to Ascend Shem to m and 161 her
@still oar Looks like L+ Niru
I suspect it is
Any advice on lineup??? This is what I’ve got goin on and this is the current lineup I use.
I will note that depending on the matchup I move my hero’s around.
Currently I’m stuck on 11-33 and I am getting completely swept!!!
I’m starting to think I’m just going to have to wait awhile until I can get everyone’s level up.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
@still oar so after I ascend her it will help me clear that round 🤨
Uhhhh your lineup is abit weird for your current level ;I ur heroes will only shine once they reach 161
When u have them at 161, replace Belinda and fawkes for tasi and Lyca, and u can cruise through campaign easily, while occasionally swapping nemora for Arden
But for now, u should still think of using saveas as your dps. Just because ur shemira is currently only at 132 and she won’t bode well in the current setup.
She’s not tanky enough without her upgraded ultimate which allows her to constantly lifesteal
I expected so @delicate hazel. Since her 161 is that makes her top carry. Which stage is that so I can check my power was
Okay. Thank you so much. I’m working on leveling her up.
I tried using Saveas for awhile but he kept dying and that was earlier on. So I used him to upgrade Brutus.
I’m currently waiting to get one more rare wilder to upgrade Tasi or Lyca. Out of the two which should I upgrade first?
U need Brutus and saveas together, place saveas behind Brutus
Got ya
Well I’ll start working on that again and then hopefully be able to push a bit further
Thanks again 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Arden do you have it?
Ur problem is lack of tanks, this is due to saveas or ira being a massive dps that can one shot your ultimate carry
So what u need to do is, have a sure fire way to lock those dps down
And what other way to lock them down than to use Arden? To make sure shemira stays alive and carry ur team, replace nemora with Arden and place him behind shemira
This will make sure Arden licking their saveas, yes licking. Hehe stupid auto correct, but it’s funny
@sage depot
Anyway @wintry turtle one of the alternative is to level saveas, while the second alternative is to power through it
Just use Arden Lyca tasi Brutus and shemira tank and try to power through your stages with this
Swap your lineup around between the 3 back lines or the 2 front lines
@dry smelt THANKS☺️
Did it work for u?
I’m at 15-32 and I’m stuck any tips of what I should do moving forward
What u should do is... reset ur heroes and focus on shemira
Shemira tank at 161 can start carrying you like no tomorrow, just pair her with ur usual support such as tasi Lyca Arden with Brutus or Lucius co tank
Or Rowan Rosaline fawkes, Lucius
U focused on nemora instead of your dps carry, which is a wrong move to begin with
Once u 161 shemira, ur saveas can now be replaced, what’s ur number of Brutus copy?
I have one extra one that’s about it
I really don’t know much about the game I kind of just log in often and it got me here so I’m down for all the help I can get
Okok so what u should do now
Reset ur Belinda and focus on shemira
Ascend ur shemira ASAP
I need my hands on two more of her to ascend her
U can look at eating saveas to up Brutus , once u reach chapter 15 ish
Or u can save saveas to do faction tower, no worries You will get shemira from lab shop
Very easy to ascend her, one of the easier ones to ascend
Then get ur tasi Lyca up for your wilder faction
While upping ur fawkes Rowan and Rosaline for lb
Hope for Brutus copies to ascend him too.
Those are currently the meta heroes...... that’s why I’m emphasising on them@
Arden will be useful too even on chapter 22
Any advice on 22-60?
Is kaz worth keeping for any team
@white ravine try this comp
Shemira Brutus Rowan Lucius Belinda
This way ur shemira won’t be rooted by Arden, and that Rowan can tank athalia instead of forcing ur Brutus to tank her
I'll give it a shot thanks!
Or u can swap Belinda for athalia to disrupt Arden plenty of alternative
Any tips
@final star
Tasi
- Lucius
Arden - Shemira
Lyca
You can try that maybe?
It should work, esp seeing as you have full crystal 240
Lineup for this stage please??
I can kill one Luci but time runs out cuz the other luci nonstop ulti's... How to get past that
Wilder tower stage 40
U lack dps and ur heroes are kinda under levelled. Try using Lyca instead of lorsan? Maybe
Focus on upping ur Lyca, she should be ascended first for ur wilder faction 😉
I'll try, did the stage get a buff? Cuz one of my team mates did it with 140 crystal and the only difference was he used Serius
Someone help please advice me on this... been stuck here for 3 weeks... not even a boss stage (20-26)
Tasi
Swap tasi and nemora so Silvia can aim Brutus
Actually.... try this, lyca shemira nemora Brutus tasi
This way, ur shemira won’t die as fast... and can ulti
Will give it a few tries... thanks
He uses serius instead of lorsan. But it was before update so I can't view the actual setup. That's why im thinking the stage got buffed cuz his heros are all 20 levels below mine yet he cleared it in what's looks like seconds
Gutson, try to put horn on shemira so she can ulti asap
Guess I just needed some RNG lol
Still not working for me 
Anyone help me? 😭 😭
@random seal give summary of what is happening maybe? 🙂
Sylvinas second jump or vedans bats kills shem before ult
Can anyone help me tho?
whats ur artifact on shemira?
The jump 1 shots full health shem
is now ignored for life
@floral cargo use nemora brutus lyca shemira arden
Yes same line up... tried different... call on shem now
Mhmm?
Put a 4* boots on both nemora and arden and pray to RNG by repeating
Mhmm
@floral cargo fawkes will probably coffin the khaos so he wont throw the axes. use lyca nemora to charm the enemy arden. brutus to tank, athalia to stall nemora
And shem to deal the dmg?
what u need to pray is that... your arden and nemora cc their arden and nemora
yes shem to deal dmg
3 wilders are all about RNG as long as u know the trick to it, just keep repeating
4* mythic boots on arden / nemora allows them to outperform enemy arden / nemora
Okay
there's always that 1% chance to win 🙂
Yeah I know I've done the 3 wilder trio before, but isnt it with tasi? I have her
interchangeable between the 3 wilders depending on which one does a better job
its between arden / nemora / tasi 🙂 normally i'd use arden and tasi over nemora. but incase an enemy has nemora. U'd want to charm her asap
same goes with ferael, if they have a ferael.... try to charm him asap 🙂
if khasos is destroying your arden before he roots... try and see if tasi will banish him first
I can still stop nemora from charming with athalia
not stop nemora's charm
u want your nemora to charm enemy nemora, so enemy nemora can charm her ally XD that's one alternative to look at
this way its double the cc 🙂 can work on ferael too 😄
if u wanna stop someone, stop enemy arden with your athalia
Aha okay
@quiet falcon i would swap tasi and lyca and melt through the bottom side. You can tryout grez, athalia (for angelo/morvus) or fawkes too.
A 3 hero faction bonus (with athalia) might be all you need :)
Can't get even close to a win
is shemira dying through one shot? :I
@dry smelt If you meant me, no she doesn't. She can survive just till her ult would be ready
then u need to more cc!!!!!! throw the units behind and just have CC
LB CC? or wilder CC, up to you 😉
get them lyca (must) and the 3 interswappable CC machine.
really, cc is all there is to campaign
@dry smelt so basically Tasi/nemora/lyca
I’ve come to learn that Saveas is the answer for most things lol.
So its gb 60. Quite a challenge for me, even with merc, cuz everyone cept arden has 2/3 more ability unlocks than my guys. Any ideas? Who to nara for starters? Should i crystal someone else instead of Baden? Should i try to get a powerful grezhul merc and use my itsy bitsy shemira? If someone thinks he can lend me the merc to make all the difference, I wouldn't say no. ;)
saveas is only there pre shemira 161 @wintry turtle
I still can't deal with Stage 12-38. Tried everything I could think off, maybe you guys have some ideas
Any chance to get that arden to 141? He would be so much better compared to nemora then.
Otherwise i'd try
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Fawkes/athalia
Aye, will try!
@dry smelt thanks... it worked with call on shem
all it took was 2 hours of retrying... thanks mate
tip on position on this stage?
Saveas can tank, Frontline him
Would still appreciate help with gb60 (a few posts above)
@glossy pagoda Nara the Arden. Frontline shemira and hope she doesn't die. Thoran up in front so he can fear more people
@dry smelt tommorow I should have her at Ascended 
The problem is that shemira eats the tasi banish, and enemy shemira ults first then
Yup that's the rng, have to keep retrying or wait for more levels. Not much else you can do since it's a mercenary shemira
Well i could try to get a 5star shemira instead or a 25+ baden or a 1star grezhul tomorrow. Just not sure who to go for.
Sure but they're all still going to be level 169 with mediocre equipment.
Can't beat this stage any help?
I admit if the enemies were ascended instead of mythic i wouldn't even hope to defeat them soon. Or are those the first m+ enemies in tower? I really hope not!
@pale kettle Try shemira or Saveas close to 120 rest of team at 80 an lucius at 81 or a bit higher
Normally saveas would be definitly better at this level, but shemira has faction advantage against the lightbeares. Dont put her up against ogi, if you choose her.
Anyone I can pm to help me build my 3 line up for arena ? 🤭😁
16-39. ira renders shem useless with the reduced health regen.
fawkes targets khasos.
any ideas?
Reset nemora and saveas. Bring Estrilda to 180. Then
Nemora
Estrilda
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Atleast i'd try that
@glossy pagoda that line up helped even without resetting. just had some better gear on hogan transfered to estrilda.
thanks \o/
Well thats nice too
Guys, any help? I cant beat 11-38 at all...
You tried estrilda?
I would reset belinda and brutus and bring saveas to 160 and Estrilda atleast to 141, then use Estrilda instead of brutus and try who supports saveas better, belinda or rayne.
Also saveas at bottom and rowan in the middle
19-36
Is this doable?
Someone with 19-38 saved?
That's the lineup I used back then @faint bay
move rowan up
Oh wow just got through that @rain oriole thanks
Something like call/grace on Shem, call/drape Rowan, eye on Arden,
call on rowan eye on shemira or viceversa
Oh lol, gz
gz
Omfg i left the app immediately after winning and it didnt save
lol
Got suddenly hardstuck here :( any tips?
cos ferael
Vedan Is doing more DMG. Now i'm trying with fawkes and Is Better ( he coffin vedan).. but still lose
@cerulean hamlet hey I tried for like 50 times but seems to be off some crucial ults, what arti do u use on luc&ardent
Chalice Lucius Eye Arden
Dang now Seirus is just being too tanky
@lostdenarian#8364 won ty
@indigo jolt tnx, in the end i rent a Kaz Merc. But used a setup similar xD
Anyone has 25-10 ss?
@crimson kraken
@steep lark ye i also used tasi lyca arden there (and i really seldom use them) put lyca on in the crystal for this, you should have one from chapter 13 rewards
@unborn steppe Looks good except for the seirus imo. would replace him. Same with Morvus. You're gonna have to replace Saveas soon too
Was wanting to replace Morvus with Belinda and use Morvus to ascend Lucius. Hoping I can swap Saveas with Shemira but not getting lucky. No idea what to do about the Serius @light kite
You don't want both Belinda and Shemira, pick one to carry you. As for Seirus you can keep using him, he's just imo very low priority compared to other wilder heroes, like Lyca, Tasi, Nemora and I'd also prefer Eironn
Belinda probably makes more sense with the Lucius then right? What about a front line replacement? Grezhul maybe?
@unborn steppe Your carry and lucius/brutus in frontline generally, once you get brutus
@unborn steppe one of the popular meta things, and cheap to run is Shemira + Lucius/brutus and wilder trio (nem,lyca,tasi)
When people run belinda, I usually see them in mostly full LB teams with Rowan, Rosaline and others
Though you can't run Belinda frontline if you go her, so you'll need another tank, sometimes people put Rowan in frontline or another tank like Hendrik or Brutus @unborn steppe
stuck on this level and i have this to help
Can someone give me advice on which faction scrolls to summon? I was doing wilder to get lyca/nem/tasi. But find myself using Rowan and Rosa quite a bit and don’t know if I should start pulling light scrolls?
Usually in those wilder formations I think it's the Ogi smash that kills him, he should be surviving in that position tho, try move lyca down one and a Rowan in place of Nemora @remote otter
Comp I used to beat 22-60 in case anyone is stuck
@rain oriole thanks bud couple retries and won ready to beat this chapter
Gz, that same formation shows up again at 19-38, that line up works well again there too, so keep it mind
Chapter 19 goes by fairly fast because there's a lot of repeat formations so ya try remember them best u can
Athalia kills my team in 5 seconds :(
@next raven oh i just saw what you posted ... Mb. How many tries?
Where to use faction scrolls? Im thinking LB or GB
Maybe GB
Optimal Level setup? Currently stuck at 22-42
16-40 help?
@nuke.pt#0001 Lyca for Nira and Rowan/Njra for Fawkes to disable Sylv
runned some, was a good one not quite there yet, could get 2 shields and but shem didnt reach the 2nd ulti, gonna keep trying, maybe with some lvls in, sylv was disabled perfectly
Sorry for spam it wasn’t showing it went through on my end
Shem can get nearly 2m damage and still doesn’t win
Any help please?
@sharp egret may need to get shemira to 181 or try adding rosa so she ults twice
@knotty bough What is dying for you when you use your strongest party?
Arden
-Niru
Saveas/Grezhul
-Vedan
Belinda
Could try overleveling Saveas rather than Niru/Belinda
Ok thank you.
@woven lichen she dies unfortunately, I think I have to wait for more power. Thanks
@pale kettle could try swapping rosa and shemira so Rosa pushes enemies away
Do you have a nara larkin?
It lasted a bit longer but still the same result.
@woven lichen
I already tried it does not work
No @glossy pagoda, would I put her on Arden if I did?
Either on arden or nemora, both would be worth a try. But you can hire a new merc tomorrow anyway, so that should do the trick.
17-20 can I do this without all on 160?
@pale kettle is it failing because top dies too fast? Could you flip it around have Shemira on bottom and Brutus on top?
@sharp egret I beat that stage today with:
Thoran, Lyca
Tasi, Shem, Arden
@glossy pagoda which formation?
@knotty bough Not sure what other heroes you have but you could try to use your strongest but also put more units of the same faction with Belinda/Saveas as your main damage dealer. Belinda might not be that great at your levels though.
A fairly unusual one, cause iam not on shemira route. Seirus 180 Farael 172 Lucius 161 and i think lyca and tasi or arden