#lineup-help

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limpid quail
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@vast bobcat have you tried the meta?
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi

vast bobcat
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my nemora/lyca/tasi are too weak, die way fast

limpid quail
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well tasi is only bait for silvana, lyca for the haste and nemora should charm estrilda, then they are allowed to die when shemira is able to ult after killing estrilda

vast bobcat
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yeah got that, but still the rest die very very fast. maybe i need to level up first. Think i'm gonna be stuck here for a while

limpid quail
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@vast bobcat you can also switch it around tasi, brutus top and nemora, shemira bottom. the video is only 22 seconds of defeat screen for me btw

vast bobcat
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oh sorry will try what you suggested and see

limpid quail
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its rng based though so its probably taking more than 10 retries. its not 1 lineup and instantly works

vast bobcat
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for sure. i always run about 20-30 runs before i drop a formation

pale kettle
wise merlin
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@pale kettle Put Athalia instead of Tasi, so then you could disable Morvus and get a faction bonus of 3/0 + 1 Hypogean

If possible you could also put Mehira in the middle so her ultimate move will effect all of the enemies.

Reason why I said it is because Athalia leaves the bottom side of your team and goes towards the enemy, so Rowan effecting only Shemira, and Mehira can also work out.

Wouldn't hurt to try, in my opinion ^^

ornate totem
wise merlin
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@ornate totem Fighting hasted enemies without a haste of your own (not to mention of the fact they gain 100 energy from Lyca's Awe) is near impossible, consider a Wilder trio in the backline or 2 Wilders + Athalia on Arden

Make sure you can fit Lyca in.

ornate totem
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@wise merlin i had ben wre unlucky with wilders so the susck even more!!

glossy pagoda
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Maybe nara lyca athalia backline, atleast it has haste and faction bonus and keeps the annoying back line busy

ornate totem
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@glossy pagoda sorry but idon thave nara

glossy pagoda
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Well thats sad

limpid quail
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you can try get a mercenary

ornate totem
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have no more for this weak

wise merlin
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🤷 If you're not going to at least try then what's the point in asking for help. @ornate totem

Keep at it until you'll be able to pass it, no stage is impossible 🙂

ornate totem
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ok

crisp wren
wild tree
violet igloo
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yes you can.

Tasi
Brutus
Shemira
Lycas
Nemora

agile root
wild tree
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@violet igloo ill try that. thx brada

limpid quail
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@agile root try out this
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi

remote musk
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How can I defeat the devine realm with that team, so I can get shemira? I can make it to that team but brutus kills my brutus or lucius and it‘s a slippery slope and the next team absolutely destroys me without either of then

wild tree
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@violet igloo got wiped in first 10 sec. brutus banished. is that normal?

limpid quail
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she banishes the most powerful enemy

austere nova
wild tree
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oh yeah. will try brut without gear

glossy pagoda
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The enemy with highest Attack, so if brutus is hurt, theres a high chance he gets it

wild tree
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@austere nova u fnished solar plane with that lvl? wow

austere nova
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Shem has Blade, Lucius has Chalice, Rowan has Call, Rosa has Drape, and Fawkes has Eye... @wild tree yeah... lol, had to defeat all the camps before i could go after the solo bosses. it was fun!

wild tree
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seeing that, kinda regretted going wider route. lel

austere nova
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all my characters have M*** gear... so i think that helps too... and all SI weps +7 or higher....

wild tree
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but nvm, sooner or later i'll get my 5 coies of lucius

glossy pagoda
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@remote musk you could try level 161 Brutus, play on normal speed and ult manually. U want to brutus ult during the enemys brutus ult befor it pops ur invul so you will counterheal it.

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With that he(the enemy) should be in invul mode first

shell ocean
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Kinda lost if I should transition into something or just keep pushing LB. Any help?

remote musk
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@glossy pagoda I need 5k more dust though, guess Imll have to wait a little more, thank you!

glossy pagoda
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Well u can also reset nemora for 20 gems, if thats worth it for you

limpid quail
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@remote musk reset nemora to 160 and make brutus 161 instead may solve that problem

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@shell ocean LB progress is slower in the early mid game, but great in lategame. its more like a personel decision for you. most people switch to the meta team with shemira,brutus and wilder support trio
nevertheless you should overlevel your carry 20-40 levels ahead of the rest of your group

shell ocean
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cheers, i dont mind resetting since im pretty new and like to try things out if i can get progress out of it

glossy pagoda
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Ye resetting is cool, only the autolevel up fearure is annoying. Only the option to jump to(almost) highest level. But i switch my highest hero often for more progress in faction towers.

remote musk
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@limpid quail i did that and it works a little bit better. Do you know what relic would work the best? I can have 3 before that

iron kelp
remote musk
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15% crit rating or 15% life leech?

pale kettle
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@wise merlin thanks that worked for some reason I tried like 30 times I was losing a lot and hard than the one time I don’t look I won

errant minnow
wise merlin
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@pale kettle Lol! congrats, happy it worked out for you 🙂

pale kettle
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hey guys I have stuck big time, enemy is just slaughtering me, by any chance could there something be done differently? Maybe respec some heroes... Really stuck :/

true zephyr
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guys i just started what a good team with this heroes? what hero shuld i look for?

errant minnow
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@pale kettle move shemira out of saveas' way

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Do this:

Rosa

Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Saveas

pale kettle
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ohhh hmm interesting will try that

limpid quail
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@remote musk best relics are probably fire and ice bringer combination if you can get those

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@true zephyr saveas is the best early game carry so start investing in him. You can find helpful information for your start on the pinned messages here and in #classic-questions

sly shadow
knotty cedar
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Need help making a team that is good pretty much anywhere, did a lot of upgrade yesterday and today so I'm lost. Still fairly new any help is greatly appreciated

woven lichen
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@knotty cedar in general you have a lot of good heroes but the lightbringer heroes might be hard to raise to higher levels. I’d focus on one of them since you need more L+ to get to M or M+. (Can see which one you can get two elite+ copies of so you can ascend them later... Rosa is the closest)

ocean crow
limpid quail
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@ocean crow put your brutus opposite of him instead of Lucius and put nemora middle for a better chance to charm saveas

ocean crow
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Oh ok ty 😊

dark current
pulsar breach
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I had 2800 power on this level, you are trying too hard ;D

velvet grail
dark current
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@pulsar breach I almost crossed it with this lineup, I'm just gonna tryhard

violet pecan
pulsar breach
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@dark current, cool, I can't do it. :)) I have no ascended Farael, well you will be stuck further ;d

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I mean, I passed it but I am 1000k power higher.

woven lichen
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@violet pecan use all wilder (Nemora, tasi, lyca, seirus, eironn), lb (Lucius, Rowan, Rosa, estrilda, Belinda), and Thoran, Brutus, shem/Isabelle, Ferael, nara

violet pecan
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@woven lichen i thought of the same... but my friend wont listen.. i need confirmation

ember bane
woven lichen
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@violet pecan that’s probably the best line-up for now due to faction bonuses. Could insert Fawkes or Gwen potentially in LB too.

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@ember bane that’s probably an ok line-up with what you have

woven lichen
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@idle oriole are you losing due to Silvina killing Arden? If so, could use nara on her or Rowan to tank the initial hit

cerulean hamlet
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@idle oriole Swap Nemora for Tasi and move her behind brutus, make sure her defense is lower than Arden's so silvina jumps on her. She should survive if you get okay RNG with her blink

Will still take some RNG but is pretty doable

idle oriole
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@cerulean hamlet @woven lichen thx for the advice guys will try it out

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Wow worked first try lol thx

pale kettle
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It's the 18-40 i really need to past it

cerulean hamlet
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@pale kettle
Lyca

  • Shemira
    Nemora
  • Brutus
    Tasi

Make sure your nemora has decent boots so she's able to charm arden so he roots his own team

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It'll take a bit of targeting RNG and rng for tasi + shem to ult but once that happens you should be good

pale kettle
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@cerulean hamlet already test and doesn't work

carmine kiln
pale kettle
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shem need rosa or she die because her ulti is not suffisant

cerulean hamlet
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How many times did you try it? It's heavily RNG dependent for targeting but should work, Evt you can put lyca frontline and shem backline if she dies too fast 🤔

pale kettle
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who's care of RNG shem die at the 10th second

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a l w a y s

cerulean hamlet
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@carmine kiln You could use a Nemora and arden there, esp nemora to charm their aren

pale kettle
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i need another comp ;-;

cerulean hamlet
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I don't really think you have a better option than that but you could opt for LB supports instead like Fawkes/Rowan/Rosa if you want to :/

carmine kiln
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Ok thanks fish, does matter nemoras position

cerulean hamlet
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Yes, who she tries to charm (who is in range) is dependent on her position, you'd replace Lorsan with her in that comp.
Shemira

  • Lyca
    Tasi
  • Brutus
    Nemora

Or so, maybe Arden over Tasi if you had him as well

woven lichen
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@pale kettle if wilder doesn’t work, you could try Rowan and Lucius with Rosa. That should give you plenty of healing... but you will be vulnerable to rooting by Arden

torpid cosmos
pale kettle
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@woven lichen

Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lucius

It is it ??

still oar
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Try
Tasi(Arden)

Lyca(brutus)
Rowan(lyca;Arden)
Shemira
Nemora

Nemora charm ferael. If she didn't charm him first restart @torpid cosmos

torpid cosmos
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Okie ill try, ty

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Charmed ferael, that grez ohkos the top half until shemira and nemora are left

pale kettle
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and . . . and for me ? ;-;

woven lichen
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@pale kettle yes or Lucius at top depending on what is dying first. Rosa will make it to shem anyways

pale kettle
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lucius die first

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Arg this chapter was unfair A to Z

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and it's still a hell

woven lichen
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@pale kettle what if you did
Rosa
-Brutus
Rowan
-shemira
Lucius/Belinda

limpid quail
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Maybe that helps

pale kettle
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I haven't arden

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rip

torpid cosmos
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Dont know why ferael is so annoying, even if nemora charms it and shem kills him he magically has my team with haunting??? Does his sig haunt upon death? Thats the annoying part

still oar
dark current
cinder veldt
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Would feeding my Belinda to Lucius and replacing her with Elijah/lailah be a good move?

still oar
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Bad, really bad one @cinder veldt

cerulean hamlet
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@cinder veldt That type of question is better suited for #classic-questions but no, you should never feed an ascended tier hero to another. Esp not when you're very close to a L+ Hogan

dark current
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You can food ascended tier heroes but not at this level

cinder veldt
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Okay, thanks :) just been at a wall in 10-22 for a while now and really struggling to get past it

woven lichen
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@cinder veldt be patient. It will help against future walls 🙂

torpid cosmos
dark current
still oar
dark current
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Hmmmm thanks

violet pecan
pale kettle
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congrats tasssi @violet pecan

limpid owl
pale kettle
ivory breach
pale kettle
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why do you have two DPS in one lineup? @ivory breach

ivory breach
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usually i have nem but wasnt working, was trying everything, with nem was just ulti after ulti and couldnt beat them, until they all ulti and i got wiped

loud crow
half sorrel
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Damn I'd help but I'm not that far yet

pale kettle
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that's a fuck ton of Ls. @loud crow

loud crow
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@pale kettle yep, not gonna use any ascended as food.

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Gotta ascend them all

pale kettle
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that's not- you missed my point @loud crow

loud crow
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@pale kettle I probably did. If you could explain, would be grateful

ivory breach
limpid quail
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@loud crow the point with going legendary is to waste food for others when you don't get the missing copies for L+ but I think this is not a problem for you when I see all those M and M+

loud crow
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@limpid quail I'm grinding the L+Max tiers to use as food to get everyone up ascended

trail wraith
limpid quail
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@trail wraith try nemora to charm ferael

eternal pecan
still oar
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You can also try Shem warek frontline but make sure kaz is rooted so she won't kill shem

eternal pecan
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Arden insta dies for some reason

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how do I do relics?

still oar
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Can he roots? Try better boots and eye or grace on him

odd python
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@loud crow post a pic of the actual stage

eternal pecan
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@still oar he's getting hit for like 330k and only has 221k hp...even with my 2nd best set of int gear

still oar
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It's fine. He is there to delay don't need to survive whole battle.

eternal pecan
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its in the firs like 3 seconds. Can't figure out where it's coming from

still oar
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From kaz's counter. In that case try swap his position with nemora and root Arden+ulmus

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Brutus against kaz unless you can charm kaz

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Or nemora's normal attack he is at a level a simple touch would kill him

eternal pecan
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swapping arden and nemora worked. Thanks!

loud crow
gaunt kelpBOT
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XMARK6 supacrazy101, this command is disabled in this channel

still oar
lost solstice
still oar
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Try
Shem(Arden)

Brutus
Arden (Shem)
Lyca
Tasi
Root Arden @lost solstice

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Or mirror it
Tasi

Lyca
Shem
Brutus
Arden

lost solstice
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@still oar I guess because my Arden is only E, it never goes off before theirs does. Probably stuck until I can ascend him :(. Ty though!

still oar
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Your mspd mostly from gears. Put a better boots on him @lost solstice

silent wraith
lost solstice
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Will give both of those a shot, thank you guys so much

ivory breach
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ty @limpid quail your tip to notbrandon worked for my 15-40 "nemora charm ferael"

lost solstice
silent wraith
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rosowo u r strong enuff to reach ch20 just need right form

paper pagoda
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@still oar were you @w? Yesterday?

still oar
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Yes

paper pagoda
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I cleared 19-38 with your help, actually the second comp you suggested

Tasi

Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shem

Ty @still oar

still oar
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Aye, congrats imokbrutus

paper pagoda
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Best week of hoarding ever 20k diamonds 44 faction plus event

soft needle
glossy pagoda
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Any idea for this? The Estrilda is surprisingly tanky, cuz healers, so i have trouble reaching the Mirael who is the key figure here. Just put my athalia back on crystal and opened another slot i haven't decided upon yet (will post a pic of my not seen options in a moment). I could also build a L Hogan/Morvus (or Angelo lol), you' d say one of those could do the trick here?

sharp egret
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@soft needle mostly you need to gain some power and summons before you find the E+ and L+ that will be your early game comp (L+ sav and others). that said your current lineup doesnt get any faction bonus (small but helps) and brutus is a great tank that you arent using

maiden gull
glossy pagoda
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Id use mehira over shemira in ur Team, better abilities for low level and 30% def is better compared to the slightly better faction bonus. Also if u have the dust bring rosaline to 101, its a nice upgrade for her.

soft needle
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@sharp egret what's e+ l+? Thanks for your help. Who should I replace for Brutus?

sharp egret
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@soft needle Elite is the purple color, Elite+ is when you combine two of them. you have some good Elite units but you need 2 of them to get E+, so you just kind of need to wait and see what you pull from summons (wishlist can help). some guides are pinned in #classic-questions if you are wondering more.

at face value i'd swap brutus for ferael and put him on the frontline, because I dont think Ferael does that much damage at this level and you already have Sav and Belinda (who has faction advantage over the maulers you're fighting). they are your damage dealers. Sav can be quite tanky like you're using him, but you have Lucius and Brutus who are both amazing tanks. this game is like a puzzle that you have to try and find the best team combo for each individual level, and then spam until you get good RNG

halcyon oriole
light kite
still oar
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Try
Nemora

Lyca
Rowan
Shemira
Arden

Root Arden and athalia. Mean while let me check some SS @halcyon oriole

pale kettle
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SMH I wish I could pass 22-58, What did you use? @halcyon oriole

light kite
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@pale kettle need a screen?

pale kettle
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Yeah send whatcha got

halcyon oriole
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Thanks, worked! Finally in stage 23 now! 👍

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@pale kettle not sure anymore, but most likely wilder trio, Shem, Brutus

sharp egret
still oar
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Pick kaz from merc camp and out her in front of thoran
Try maybe
Tasi

Kaz
Nemora
Lyca
Shem @sharp egret

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Or luc>nemora

light kite
sharp egret
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Lyca is my merc but I can try kaz

light kite
lapis nexus
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Stuck on 4-16, also which Wilder should I ascend?

still oar
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Oh then try luc>kaz @sharp egret

sharp egret
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Rip, can't get through his first life. I think kaz is necessary from camp

midnight coral
wild tree
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@violet igloo i swapped tasi and shem. the stars aligned nicely. kt275

little sparrow
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Brutus and golus are so annoying

silver void
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Just summoned some purple (yeah still New) and feel a bit lost in team building, I'll share my box if you don't mind to help

pale kettle
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@silver void you should only level your five highest ascended tier heroes

silver void
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Yeah I know, I was trying to get Tasi, lyca and nem but since thé rng only gave me Tasi and the twins, I don't really now who I should ascend first

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Was thinking to get legendary shem, Tasi and the twins and sacrifice the others

pale kettle
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sacrafice who?

silver void
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Seirus, ira, silvina, vedan or neru since I can epic one of them,

woven lichen
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@silver void you should keep saveas as he is very strong while under L160

silver void
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All the ones that can't go mythic

woven lichen
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Yeah but you aren’t going past a level where they are weak yet. Saveas helps you progress faster

silver void
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So I play mauldr/gb with saveas and shem ?

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Or I'm at a level where I just pick the strong ones without caring of team buildings

woven lichen
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@silver void yes use a L+ saveas until you reach over L160. Then use him as fodder to get mystics. Yeah more about strong units for now

silver void
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Alright then, is saveas, shem, Tasi, twins, grezhul ok ?

woven lichen
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@silver void that’s ok but preferably have another tank/support. Don’t need shem this early on. Using Arden, saveas, etc would be much easier to ascend and use at this stage too.

silver void
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Alright then, thanks for the tips

onyx basin
chilly compass
umbral wraith
hasty dawn
pale kettle
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why do you have a Dreaf at 40

hasty dawn
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@umbral wraith try swapping saveas and rosaline

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@pale kettle because why not, I'm hardstuck Hero Essence, have plenty of exp and gold

pale kettle
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there's literally no reason to hold on to commons

serene basin
hasty dawn
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lord dreaf is the only exception

pale kettle
novel adder
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@serene basin its a matter of rng.. the one suzy suggested is good.. charm the arden to root his own team instead of using ur own.. estrilda in place of brutus also works for accelerated tasi ult and ulmus counter

pale kettle
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though keep in mind that he uses that comp for legit every level so what works for him might not work for you. @serene basin

serene basin
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I've been trying that, it's just I can never root the tasi, and she banishes my shemira, I don't get how my heroes are mostly ascended and losing when the screenshot you posted shows L+

pale kettle
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i don't know how either, as you can see he hasnt even activated those heroes' sigs. @serene basin

novel adder
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@serene basin its really a matter of rng.. as with all of these wilder stages.. it should be the recurring pattern since chapter 17 or so.

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you can try with call on shemira instead of blade

pale kettle
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anyways can someone like help me lmao laiconfused

serene basin
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Will is still get call benefits even if she's banished?

novel adder
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@pale kettle do you still have an arden?

pale kettle
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no but I can make one

novel adder
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@serene basin not while banished but the idea is to ult as soon as possible.. if tasi can ult and create an opening, shem's energy bar needs to be as high as possible to take advantage of it

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240 shem has more than enough power for chapter 21.. so blade is generally not needed

serene basin
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So should I be using tasi or nemora,

novel adder
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both

serene basin
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Do no arden? Or lyca

pale kettle
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@novel adder what am i supposed to do with Arden

novel adder
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@pale kettle i think yours needs a bit more specific rng
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Hendrik/brutus
Lyca
The rng roll here is ensure that estrilda and ira are rooted twice.. ideal charm candidate is estrilda.. hendrik should be good on ulmus coz it stops the first root.. im just more concerned his AI makes him jump back to protect arden leaving ulmus boulders to shem which might nort be good.. if that happens too consistently swap to brutus.

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@serene basin keep lyca
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Estrilda/brutus
Nemora
with lyca, nemora can charm arden before he roots.. ensuring he roots for you instead.

pale kettle
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thank you smmmm, i appreciate you. imma try that now @novel adder

opaque prairie
serene basin
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@novel adder thanks tried estrilda and beat it

novel adder
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estrilda is perfect for ulmus stages.. grats @serene basin
stops the initial root.. ulmus early damage is bad.. so estrilda free reign buffs everyone. keep that in mind for future stages

sturdy gust
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@opaque prairie try only estril, lvl 1 give free energy to enemy

novel adder
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@opaque prairie 4-36 sounds about right for level 80 unit.. i think the troublesome part is the arden, ogi cc with kaz damage.. try a few more times with full LB team solely to buff estrilda's stats.. i wouldn't reset..i'd probably afk a few hours and get them up slowly.

pale kettle
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@novel adder lmao i got rekt

novel adder
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@pale kettle yeah its a bit hard for you.. but possible.. since shem 220.. the rng is very specific for your win condition.. if you want i think estrilda merc would make it a tad easier.. if you have your own estrilda drop nem of tasi.

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ira's ice arrow is bad for shem.. but in my experience bottom side with ulmus is worse..banking on roots and maybe a lucky dodge is preferable

midnight coral
pale kettle
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@novel adder i got it after putting call on Shem

novel adder
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nice

pale kettle
novel adder
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@midnight coral hmm.. i'd run something like
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Baden
Estrilda/shemira
You might need to swap call on lucius or something or manually cast baden and lucius ults to dodge the charm.. its hard to predict from an outsider standpoint.

worthy bane
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Anyone have a screenshot for 26-30?

pale kettle
pale kettle
worthy bane
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@pale kettle appreciate ya

midnight coral
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What about formation for the other one? Wrizz??

long gust
still oar
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Try Arden in the middle and nemora instead of luc and try charm estrilda and root Hogan @long gust

midnight coral
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@novel adder that worked great

still oar
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Or Arden top

raw spoke
pale kettle
still oar
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You can try
Shemira(nemora)

Lyca(Shem)
Tasi(Nemo;lyca)
Nemora(tasi)
Arden
Standard root Arden and myabe charm ulmus or grezhul

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I think I used something like that

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Or just replace that lyca with tasi

inland kite
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I dont see what you're saying is the lineup with that, I'm just bad I guess XD

novel adder
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@midnight coral for wrizz you can run the same and do well.. but you can drop lucius for estrilda/shemira whichever you didnt use.. healing isn't so important in wrizz.

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@inland kite >>> means frontline

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and (unit;unit) are other potential options? or rather a second alternate formation

inland kite
still oar
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That's for Suzie @inland kite

inland kite
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Ardens interrupted every time

still oar
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Hola on

inland kite
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Oh I thought I posted mine

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Mines above suhly

novel adder
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@raw spoke you dont really have to.. you can run them all and see if you pass. if it doesn't then build around a carry.. i think estrilda or isabella right now.. you can use something like
lucius, ulmus, tasi, estrilda, belinda.. (light-wilder) and rotate to maybe lucius, izold, shemira, estrilda, isabella (light-gb) for different stages.. have a look at the pinned tips and guide in #classic-questions

inland kite
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I just randomly guessed

still oar
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Lol gZ imokbrutus

novel adder
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@pale kettle id swap arden for tasi.. the goal is to charm the arden and let him root his own team.. (in that rng, double triple roots have too much overlap, tasi brings more) you can try hendrik in place of brutus and see how it goes.. but my default best unit to face ulmus is usually estrilda.

proven thunder
lilac vapor
novel adder
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@proven thunder try
Belinda
Lucius
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas.

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@lilac vapor do you still have an arden?
I'd try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Estrilda
Tasi

proven thunder
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not working, lucius just melts from gollus and its chapter 10-29

lilac vapor
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@novel adder I kinda ate the Arden out of frustration nervkhasos

novel adder
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@lilac vapor hmmm..
maybe
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Estrilda
Tasi
?

lilac vapor
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Are u sure it's 10-29?

pale kettle
woven lichen
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Nara is a counter but yours might be a bit weak. Tasi/Rowan could potentially survive a few hits too @pale kettle

pale kettle
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I don't have Rowan, I think you're thinking of Rigby here, so I should put Tasi on the crystal and hope for the best instead of... Nemora?

proven thunder
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oops its 10-19

pale kettle
true zephyr
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Guys what team shuld i do whit this

woven lichen
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@pale kettle Rowan. His skill allows damage to be mitigated and reduces energy instead of health. He can sometimes dodge and tank Silvina for awhile... might need higher levels. You can try tasi instead of Nemora or replace shemira.... only need one main dps overleveled

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@pale kettle do you have safiya? High damage ult and reduces damage from thane

lapis wharf
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What level can I swap savaes for shemira?

woven lichen
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@true zephyr replace shemira with saveas and use top 5.... can add tasi sometimes

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@lapis wharf L161 is usually the swapping point

lapis wharf
woven lichen
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If saveas isn’t working anymore, sure

lapis wharf
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I find myself stuck at 11-38

woven lichen
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Can give it a try. When overleveled, she can tank a bit and ult faster

violet pecan
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@lapis wharf aveass is still stronger then shemira at your currenr state

woven lichen
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@little sparrow you probably don’t need both Belinda and shemira at 160 ish... can reset one and pump the other one up

violet pecan
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@true zephyr reset shemira, put saveas to be in charge, put best gear on him
Brutus is weak before 141
Saveas, lucius, arden, tasi, nemora
When you get lyca it will be better

pale kettle
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@woven lichen so, almost done with the question, I can just overlevel like any dps and since I don't have Rowan I can try getting tasi on the crystal, that's what you're saying? also tried switching Shemira for Belinda, still not working

violet pecan
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@pale kettle you need mercenary warek
He can stomp all 5 of the enemies at the same time with eas

lapis wharf
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@violet pecan crap:(

woven lichen
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@pale kettle yeah can try putting tasi on crystal and see if she survives the hits. Could also try Rosa too. If you get nara, she helps to pull Silvina off mages

pale kettle
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@woven lichen thanks gonna give this a shot

woven lichen
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@pale kettle Belinda shemira Rowan Rosa Lucius ?

lapis wharf
pale kettle
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@woven lichen on both ?

woven lichen
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@pale kettle yep.... best party would be to replace shemira with lorsan eventually... and then Lucius with twins for wrizz

pale kettle
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Yeah, but I don't have neither of them x)

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Oof that rosa probably follows the lucius rip

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Nope

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Even with 20 SI?

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Yeah, belinda is 20k higher

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oof clutch

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😁😁

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She got like 10-lvl more

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Thanks @woven lichen , got to 70M

woven lichen
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@pale kettle nice! As an FYI, even an elite twins would help a lot

pale kettle
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Well, I've always hit hypogeans or athalia in my pulls, won't complain but yeah, maybe if they are in an even I'll take them

woven lichen
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@lapis wharf you could try Nemora, tasi, lyca, shemira, Lucius/Brutus... or could swap Arden/Rowan for Nemora

lapis wharf
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To get a unit to 161 do others in my crystal have to be 140 or 141?

woven lichen
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I think 121... you can have a 40 level gap

still oar
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140 @lapis wharf

lapis wharf
uneven comet
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All she does is Dodge LITERALLY EVERY ATTACK she barely takes any damage at all

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Any ideas on what I should do?

woven lichen
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@uneven comet try using heroes with high accuracy like thane. Zolrath has a high amount too.

alpine lark
glossy pagoda
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I think you need a merc for mauler tower 50, espaccially since u have no Saveas

alpine lark
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Oke

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@glossy pagoda how u know its mauler 50 tf

glossy pagoda
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Iam on 51 myself lol

tiny olive
mighty summit
glossy pagoda
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@tiny olive depends on the stage. Lucius and Saveas frontline and twins backline should be good for any stage, where the twins live long enough to connect the frontliners with their lazors, for example.

tiny olive
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@glossy pagoda ty very much

woven lichen
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@mighty summit that setup looks fine... 25-56?

vast bobcat
glossy pagoda
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U probaply want brutus at bottom, vedan and shemira probaply do tons of damage to lucius, don't they?

vast bobcat
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run the above lineup about 50-60 tries....not even close...the bat foker wrecks everything

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yes!!

glossy pagoda
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Maybe with brutus bottom and both tanks at 180 and slightly weaker crystal it's doable?

vast bobcat
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tbh i had brutus at 180, but reset him so that i could get rowan up to 160 (he was 140)

woven lichen
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@vast bobcat does shemira tank at top ok? If so, could also double the tanks on bottom. Or use the wilder trio and try to charm root people

glossy pagoda
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Doing it manually might help too, since brutus ult counterheals best, when really low Health. Just try to find that sweat spot where he doesn't get his invulnarablity popped befor he ults, if thats possible

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Which stage on 17 is this btw? Not sure if already fought that myself.

vast bobcat
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It's 17-4, i'll try capturing a video

glossy pagoda
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Ok i did it alredy but my carry is Ferael so slightly different

mighty summit
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@woven lichen yes 25-56, finish 1v1 best try

glossy pagoda
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I used nara on nemora i think

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And had lucius on 180 for this stage

woven lichen
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@mighty summit ah ok yeah that’s a tough stage. You can try to use or borrow an athalia in place of Nara too. But it takes a lot of tries. The new patch is supposed to tone down that level too

vast bobcat
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will try resetting the crystal and boost lucius to 180

fading cipher
#

Anyone got SS for LB 140?

lost timber
edgy flower
iron kelp
edgy flower
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@lost timber overlevel Sav. Ditch Belinda and Shem. Sav is a beast upto 160, then Shem takes over

glossy pagoda
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Placing shemira on top looks weird, cuz ira heal reduction. Maybe bottom is better while hoping that ogi eats enough cc

lost timber
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@edgy flower what's the recommended lineup with overlevel sav?

clear chasm
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Brutus Sav up front

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Then 3 out 4 from Arden, Tai, Lyca and Nem

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Arden probably the most vital imo

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It’s got me upto 13-39 so far

edgy flower
glossy pagoda
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17-6 is the first real wall in chapter 17 I feal, atleast for me. Fucking wilders with lyca

edgy flower
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I'm there now, was just about to post my disappointment with another Ogi and Arden. Think I need an assassin in my line up

glossy pagoda
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I dont even now if nemora has a chance to charm arden, with that damn Lyca, probaply not, or?

edgy flower
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I can get Tasi to vanish Lyca and Arden to root. I reckon I can push through

glossy pagoda
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Your arden wins root battle, with duras Call? Or does he have even mythic boots already?

golden night
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i'm on stage 8-20

edgy flower
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@glossy pagoda I PMed you to keep this chat free

vast bobcat
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@edgy flower no bro, used Fawkes/Lucius/Rowan/Brutus/Shemira.

idle oriole
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@golden night #classic-questions but anyways reset grezhul estrilda and silvina.. Only need to lvl up 5 heroes at a time

Then overlevel your saveas as high as possible.. Don't focus on shem or belinda until u can get them past lvl 160

golden night
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k thx

shrewd haven
still oar
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Try
Arden(Shem)

Shem(lyca)
Lyca(Arden)
Brutus
Nemora
Arden roots Arden and kaz and nemora charm saveas @shrewd haven

shrewd haven
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@still oar tks dian sastrowardoyo. 😁 😁 😁

shy crag
glossy pagoda
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Use lyca so your arden wins root battle also isnt shemira tankier than Belinda?

paper wadi
glossy pagoda
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U already used merc for mauler tower this week? If not do it!

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Also i like skreg and brutus being sucked by eironn here

woeful haven
pale kettle
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hey guys! Is there anyway to pass this stage? Here is current line up

glossy pagoda
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Is saveas close to reaching L? He would easily outperform shemira here

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Other then that, try to create a cc heavy lineuo here with not mich focus on heal. Ira reduces ur heal and diminishes rowans value here greatly

odd python
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@woeful haven try
ferael
thoran
brutus
shem
nemora

woeful haven
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Tried like 50 times

odd python
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that specific setup?

woeful haven
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Yes

pale kettle
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@glossy pagoda well sav is somewhat near L, but only fodders I have for him is antandra and sav e+, not sure though if I should use antandra for him

glossy pagoda
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I'd not recommend using her.

pale kettle
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ehh ok well will have to wait either get L+ shem or L sav

glossy pagoda
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Had a similar problem there with my alt. I build tidus L first and was stuck until i found 4th copy

odd python
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@woeful haven hard to call, i reset my crystal to 200 to get my frontliner (grez instead of thoran) and brutus to 240 with shem, mercd ferael, and that did the trick

pale kettle
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dang, yeah I feel ya, somewhat weird situtation

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I guess just need more time + luck = next stage....

glossy pagoda
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Getting ur 5th L (preferrable a Legend Tier hero like saveas or arden) might help since then you can reach 121 crystal in a few days

pale kettle
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oh yeah that is quite possible will see how it goes, cheers for the help! 🙂

woeful haven
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@odd python does not work :) all die so fast.. Best try I had with fawkes on top, he was able to kill that vampire guy.. But still ath kill everything on ulty

next raven
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Feels like I’ve tried everything so it may just be my team is too weak

west depot
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@next raven I’m also stuck on that tower level it’s a bitch

next raven
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@west depot I literally just beat that level lol

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But I can’t remember my comp

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I think it was Brutus lucious front row then lyca shemira Rowan back

woeful haven
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This is not doable..

past yacht
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SHem is kicking everything in the teeth

vernal quail
stray pine
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Khasos
Skreg
Numi ( would be better if u can use this as bait)
Brutus
Safiya
The correct scenario would be for the Silv to jump the Numi which then is hold off by either Brutus but looking ascension wise the Safiya might die first . Give it a try anyway

mossy ledge
calm hound
stray pine
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@mossy ledge what stage was that

mossy ledge
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25-44

surreal venture
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Getting slaughtered by the enemy Saveas

pale kettle
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Guys.. I'm new to this and I have no idea what I'm doing.. I only did ascensions with copies so I don't waste anything i don't know who's nice and who's not

calm hound
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😩 why are you so lucky, you have so many good ones

surreal venture
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That celestial 👀

calm hound
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I keep getting green ones 😒

pale kettle
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That's nice to hear.. any suggestions? Best line up?

icy lynx
pale kettle
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@icy lynx i heard celestials and hypogeans are op.. so mehira might help

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@icy lynx I don't know much though I'm still trynna figure it out

icy lynx
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Thats who i had at first on the team. But Suveas on the other team destroyed us

pale kettle
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@surreal venture @calm hound any advice for the newbies over here?

calm hound
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@icy lynx try to put an tank upfront and mages in the back. And put ur hypogean in!

pale kettle
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@icy lynx maybe put the lvl 80 up front against the toughest opponent.. he's a tank if I think

calm hound
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@icy lynx try to swap belinda with lvl 78

icy lynx
pale kettle
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Put your lvl 74 in.. she's been tough against me.. switch for the middle backliner @icy lynx

calm hound
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this ^

icy lynx
calm hound
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Yes

icy lynx
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Holy crap it worked! Thanks so much!

calm hound
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Nice!

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i beat my level too!

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@sour fossil Try to use more lightbearers instead of wilders because of the factional advantages

pale kettle
#

any tips for 20-36 ?

junior sierra
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Current formation is at the top

pale kettle
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Damn. you guys are really doing well

limpid quail
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@junior sierra what is you question about it? General tips would be to overlevel your Carry by 20-40 levels

pale kettle
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@pale kettle try taking out gawks first lyca rose for Arden try it a couple times aswell

junior sierra
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Yeah general tips would be nice but mostly formation advice and why?

So in this game is carry the highest attack rating or would it be like my archer/mage that are damage focused. Because right now my tank has the highest attack rating I believe @limpid quail

pale kettle
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Can any of you guys tell who to level up and who to ditch? I'm stuck at 6-16

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They only way ur tank can have the highest attack rating is if he’s over leveled I think you mean power rating and that’s based on ascension and level

junior sierra
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@pale kettle Belinda has the highest I lied but my tank has the second highest. He’s got the best gear I have and he has is the highest ascension

pale kettle
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Wait so what did u want to know? Like beat formation or?

limpid quail
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@junior sierra carry is the one with the highest damage output, not necessarily the highest attack rating.
Lightbringer is a strong faction especially lategame, but will progress slower in the early-mid game.
To get familiar with the basics I recommend to read the pinned guides and game tips in this channel and also from #classic-questions

junior sierra
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Will do. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction @limpid quail

@pale kettle yes best formation I could do

pale kettle
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Probly Hendricks olmus in front Belinda farael and rose in the back

junior sierra
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Awesome thank you
@pale kettle

frigid veldt
random seal
pale kettle
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do you have Arden?

random seal
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E+ arden now... tried previously with L+ arden but gets 1 shot by sylvina

chilly compass
errant minnow
pale kettle
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is Nem charming Shem? @chilly compass

chilly compass
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Yea

pale kettle
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then don't put a carry in that place

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@chilly compass switch Shem and Lucius than put lyca instead of Lucius

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That way ur nemora can charm Arden b4 he roots

shrewd haven
spare aurora
pale kettle
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@shrewd haven im stuck on the same one skREEEEEEE

grim bison
glossy pagoda
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For the faction tower? I would go with gorvo for now in your case. He is already e+ atleast. And seirus is even more relient on stats and ascension than other tanks. He is a shop hero though, so maybe you want to build him up later as your wilder tank.

pale kettle
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Gorvo, Eironn, Tasi, Nem, Lyca @grim bison

odd python
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@spare aurora try
nemora
shem
lyca
grez
athalia

grim bison
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ah I see. ok thanks for the tips @glossy pagoda @pale kettle

sharp hornet
carmine orbit
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nevermind i got it after trying some rdm strats

tawny coral
#

Out of the heroes I have here, can anyone tell me a pretty optimal setup? I know Brutus, Belinda, and Shemira are really good.

uncut star
#

should i upgrade fereal or shemira? theyre both level 120 and im stuck on 9-23

sick island
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shemira all day

uncut star
#

also how is brutus OP? My brutus sucks ass. he dies instantly after his immunity expires and does nothing before that

dry smelt
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his strong point is his 7 - 8 seconds immunity
121-160 he is just ok

steel patrol
dry smelt
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pre 121 his damage is reallly high, especially when he spins
also his 4 seconds invincibility allows heroes like saveas to dish out alot of damage

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@steel patrol try using lyca instead of nemora

pale kettle
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@steel patrol use your Bel as damage

dry smelt
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my reasoning, is so that lyca can boost arden into rooting faster

chilly compass
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@pale kettle thank you got it because of lyca

pale kettle
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Bet

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pffffffft

split relic
pale kettle
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take out Ferael, put in nem, swap nem and shem. if you have Lyca or Tasi i would put either in Athalia's place. @split relic

split relic
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it worked ty alot

true zephyr
woven lichen
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@true zephyr no since Talene will be really hard to ascend further unless you spend money at stargazing. It’s fine early on though. Might want to use Arden too for rooting

devout berry
steel patrol
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@pale kettle @dry smelt thanks both you’re amazing it helped me

dry smelt
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hehe but which one helped 🙂

obtuse oak
woven lichen
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@obtuse oak not necessarily. Looks like you could use Lucius and Rowan with fawkes for faction bonus... maybe replace Brutus and lyca?

gleaming flax
dry smelt
#

that seems just straight up underlevelled ;I

woven lichen
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@gleaming flax that looks like a pretty big power gap... but could try Nemora to charm Arden

cerulean hamlet
#

@gleaming flax
You can try
Tasi

  • Brutus
    Arden
  • Lyca
    Shemira
    Maybe Shemira and Tasi positions swapped might work too? It should be okay if Tasi + Shem both manage to ult
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NEmora charm could work but that'd need shem to get interrupted while casting silence

gleaming flax
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didnt*

cerulean hamlet
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Mh, what if you swap Tasi and Shemira positions? Does Tasi survive to ult or does she get one shot by Ira?

gleaming flax
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one shotted by ira

cerulean hamlet
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Mh, you might just nee more levels then, evt Lyca top brutus bottom. You usually need them to be able to survive a couple hits

gleaming flax
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and shem eats a root

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ok will do more tries

errant minnow
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@gleaming flax shemira up front vs Kaz can you survive long enough?

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You could try using athalia to delay Arden's root

woven lichen
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@errant minnow could try Warek on fawkes to see if he will toss and delay him enough

errant minnow
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Hmm I'll try

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Not sure how warek did 0 dmg but it worked can't complain

woven lichen
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@errant minnow nice! 😃

rain oriole
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@gleaming flax this formation I used works well for alot of people, it's tough with a 160 crystal but definitely possible, it took me alot of retries and good RNG

tawny jewel
errant minnow
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Wait until you get more heroes to decide

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Way too early to commit to anything

tawny jewel
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I just have a larger account on lbs

sharp egret
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I mean, its too early to decide what maulers to focus on lol

tawny jewel
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Okay thanks guys

spare aurora
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@odd python thanks! I came the closest to beating it ~95%

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Wooo finally passed 22-50!

wise stream
glossy pagoda
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Athalia is doom, Executor.

wise stream
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Tell me about it

fading cipher
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Need help for LB 140

woven lichen
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@wise stream you might be able to try...
Shemira
-Lucius
Rosa
-Rowan
Fawkes/tasi

Or maybe swap tasi/fawkes and shemira too

warped peak
limpid quail
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@wise stream Rowan middle back will be immune to the first impact, put an Arden on the bottom back to root her

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@warped peak try nemora for Rosa, either top or bottom

warped peak
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worked after like 20 tries ty lol

limpid quail
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Yeah it's still rng based, congrats

spare aurora
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@wise stream maybe this helps

errant minnow
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My 22-60 only Shem 240 rest 200

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@wise stream

devout cliff
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any clues

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biggest problem I have is the isabella and vedan wrecking my team at the end

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I tried saveas around the block but I still end up with isabella at the end full hp and destroying me

errant minnow
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Switch positions Brutus Lucius

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Ok try
Nemora

Brutus
Rosa
Lucius
Belinda

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@devout cliff

devout cliff
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My nemora just isnt useful, silvina demolishes her too

errant minnow
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You need a bait

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Or silvina will jump straight to Belinda

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Try and see if you can get 2 Belinda ults against silvina in a row

devout cliff
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I'm not getting even one off

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The silvina is jumping on the nemora, not belinda

errant minnow
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If you take out nemora she will jump to Belinda but I don't think you want that

devout cliff
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Hmm, put better gear on nemora now she's jumpin rosa but that isn't doing much

errant minnow
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Silvina jumps to the weakest mage hero

devout cliff
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correct

errant minnow
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You could also try taking out nemora and subbing estrilda in for 20% faction bonus

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Silvine will jump to rosa see what happens

pale kettle
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@devout cliff have you tried switching Nem and Rosa? Rosa will get to Bel faster and Nem could charm Arden so arden roots his own team

devout cliff
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I have, nemora is just dying too quick to do anything

errant minnow
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All you need is an ult from Belinda

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Give her dura call, best gear etc, keep silvina away from her as much as possible

devout cliff
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Getting close, just gonna spam till RNG gives it to me, Thanks for help

pale kettle
rich snow
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https://gyazo.com/05aa01d64dbd846c5ba2928939f2accf

What would be more useful to me for ML tower:

The setup seen here, or removing Saveas to A Brutus, and then popping someone else in for Saveas, like Satrana, or Khasos, or the new guy or something?

I know most people say Sav can be useful up to 80 or so, but I'm not sure if being able to A Brutus right now changes that.

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I also give Sav my best agi gear, which is 4 mythic pieces, so Vurk would get that for himself.

limpid quail
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@rich snow khasos is great when you have his sig, maybe try to build him, save the saveas until you can make khasos M with him

rich snow
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I wanna M Khasos before I A Brutus...?

cursive thorn
pale kettle
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your main priority with ascension is getting 5 ascended heroes.

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@cursive thorn remove Numisu and put Lyca

rich snow
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Mmm. Okay. So A Brutus? Or just wait I guess?

pale kettle
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Grez is a better tank than Rigby is. and stop making unnecessary Legendaries @cursive thorn

limpid quail
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@rich snow yup go for A brutus then build the khasos it will also help you to break the crystal cap

pale kettle
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you wasted a lot of fodder making heroes legendary @cursive thorn

pale kettle
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what chap /stage? @teal galleon

teal galleon
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21-41

pale kettle
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i wish i had a screenshot for you @teal galleon

teal galleon
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too much stuns i cannot do anything cuz athalia engage is too short

pale kettle
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instead of Athalia have you tried Nem?

indigo jolt
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Fairly sure Tasi, was silv bait.

teal galleon
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ye my is only e+ so she is easy target

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passed ty rosowo

indigo jolt
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yw

teal galleon
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@indigo jolt 21-54?

indigo jolt
teal galleon
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ye i finished it with some artifacts swapings

livid quest
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Help ^

primal bridge
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It's 16-40 btw

still oar
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Nemora. Fawkes(Rowan)

Tank. >>>Lyca
Lyca. Shem
Shem. >>>Brutus
Arden. Arden

Root Arden and kaz and charm ogi or nemora+ogi @primal bridge

pale kettle
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@livid quest
Tasi
. Luc
Bel
. Estrilda
Arden

livid quest
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Should I take Belinda to L+

primal bridge
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Holy moly, it worked, thanks @still oar

livid quest
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And to level 120?

pale kettle
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yes, just don't sacrafice any ascended tier heroes @livid quest

livid quest
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Alright

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Does this mean I'm also replacing savaes as my carry

primal bridge
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@livid quest I'd wait to see if get someone I can more reliably get to ascended. You should keep working on Shemira. I always hear people saying she doesn't carry like Saveas before 161 but if you can keep her out of harm's way she'll carry for you.

pale kettle
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not quite, i'm recommending this specifically because LB have a faction advantage to Maulers and Saveas isn't very durable @livid quest

lapis wharf
#

Can someone tell me who I’d use in guild battle? I’m thinking Lucius, Shem, Rosa, twins and Lyca

pale kettle
#

Bel is a good hero anyways

livid quest
#

Getting Belinda to L+ won't affect me getting shemira ascended though, right? @primal bridge

pale kettle
#

@lapis wharf which boss? soren or wrizz?

lapis wharf
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Wrizz!

pale kettle
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@livid quest it won't. they are in two different factions, therefore don't need the same type of fodder.

primal bridge
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@livid quest no but you could end up spending LB fodder on someone you won't be able to ascend for quite a while.

pale kettle
#

I've gotten her to mythic and the devs buffed the wishlist @primal bridge

livid quest
#

I'm still stuck, Frontline dies instantly

pale kettle
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@livid quest you're missing the other two heroes in the Wilder trio, Lyca and Nem, who are crucial in the game

primal bridge
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@pale kettle true, the wishlist buff has been great.

livid quest
#

When was the wishlist buff

pale kettle
#

not that long ago. I'd say less than a month

livid quest
#

What else can I do in the meantime

pale kettle
#

what POT are you at?

livid quest
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POT?

pale kettle
#

Peaks of Time

livid quest
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2nd one

pale kettle
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do that one

livid quest
#

My units aren't strong enough to do iy

pale kettle
#

when was the last time you've tried?

primal bridge
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@livid quest yeah, start working on getting Dura's items, they'll help you a lot.

limpid owl
pale kettle
#

those L's are an eyesore @limpid owl

limpid owl
#

Yh ik

primal bridge
#

So much waster fodder ulricry

livid quest
#

Now lol

pale kettle
#

honestly, you shouldve gotten M Shem by now

primal bridge
#

@limpid owl try something like

Belinda

Lucius
Tasi/Fawkes
Grezhul/Shemira
Arden

livid quest
#

And wdym working on dura's items

primal bridge
#

@limpid owl you need more CC

limpid owl
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Ok ill try

pale kettle
#

@livid quest some POT's give dura artifacts as rewards for completion

primal bridge
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I should switch those around now that I'm looking at them lol

pale kettle
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yeah lol, Eye would be better suited on Nem

livid quest
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I can't even do the 2nd POT :/

pale kettle
#

when was the last time you tried? @livid quest

livid quest
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Now

junior hound
odd python
#

@tawny jewel try
lyca
shem
mehira
lucius
nemora

livid quest
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@pale kettle I tried like a second ago

indigo jolt
sharp egret
#

Been stuck for a while. Main problem is enemies do so much damage and melt my team before Shem can ult

tawny jewel
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@odd python mehira gets popped by silvina

primal bridge
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@sharp egret try Lucius up front and Fawkes where Lucius is.

tawny jewel
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@sharp egret when you are at 1/2 of enemies power level it means you are close to the limits. Try out different positions, or just wait to lvl up your team.

junior hound
#

@indigo jolt is there a reason behind using an e+ gorvo?

tawny jewel
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@sharp egret i would use lyca instead of thoran tho and get lucius front line

indigo jolt
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@junior hound Jumps and interuupts Tasi's first banish.

vivid knot
odd python
#

@tawny jewel try
lyca
athalia
shem
lucius/brutus
nemora

tawny jewel
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@odd python nah its not even close. The best i did was by using fawkes to box shem

cerulean hamlet
#

@vivid knot That comp looks okay, but swap Numisu for Safiya and maybe turn off auto ults since you don't want to do it when they layer their ults. Safiya box will help reduce thane damage and haste a bit

junior hound
#

@indigo jolt got it thanks! do you also have comp for 24-15 and 24-16?

vivid knot
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@cerulean hamlet Done it first try ❤️ 👌

cerulean hamlet
#

Grats!

vivid knot
indigo jolt
sharp egret
#

@primal bridge since youre on the same one, the best comp of the different variants seems to be:
Fawkes
--> Shem
Lyca
--> Lucius
Rowan
Silv on Rowan. Main problem is that Silv ult will kill Shem from pretty high HP

rich snow
ripe beacon
#

Reliable comp is timing fawks ult for 3-4 brutus at the same time

primal bridge
#

@sharp egret your Rowan needs to be in the center. Also, that stage I couldn't beat with Lucius, I had to use Brutus.

sharp egret
#

Silv goes on rowan

rich snow
#

I can't seem to get more than the front two to shield at once. So maybe just too weak.

sharp egret
#

wait how are you on 18 if your crystal is 180

rich snow
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I dunno?

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If you wanna go indepth about that, DM me. Not really the place to talk about it

plucky flint
edgy flower
vivid knot
#

you need a tank @edgy flower

craggy sinew
#

Guys if you have brutus khasos shem and grez on your team, which one you'll fill in the team? Thoran or ferael?

edgy flower
#

All mine survive, I thought dps was missing. I don't have Eirron

vivid knot
#

@craggy sinew ferael

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@edgy flower eironn only good at later levls with sig item

edgy flower
#

I could put tree or water guy on crystal, which of them does more damage? lorsan maybe?

craggy sinew
#

May i hear your reason why you choose ferael?

vivid knot
#

you already have 3 tanks, brutus/shem and grez, thoran is primarily for tanking, fareal is good dps and cc

tawny jewel
#

@edgy flower eironn is a good dps when you get him. But for now kaz

craggy sinew
#

Hmm you right there'll be less damage output if you put thoran instead of ferael even tho thoran and grez have an additional bonus stat if put together.. Okay then thanks..

tawny jewel
#

Is there anybody ch 23 and up?

edgy flower
#

Seems like wall for now, needed this one to get the LVL 40 mythic reward

craggy sinew
#

Not me

stray pine
#

@tawny jewel do you require something

pale kettle
#

I've saved formations of exclusively just each faction so selecting teams for faction tower is just easier @raven cove

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@edgy flower Eironn is the best Wilder DPS atm even if he isn't a good DPS compared to the DPS' of other factions. Solise the new Wilder, iirc, is a true DPS

gilded walrus
#

@edgy flower Lorsan is very good for DPS. I use him at Elite+ occasionally in the wilder tower and I’m on floor 147. Highly recommend him. Try switching him for Nemora or Arden. Probably don’t need all 3 CC mages out there

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@edgy flower oh and also, Nemora is not good behind lyca unless you have a really good one because Lyca jumps at the beginning of the battle and leaves her exposed. Same for Arden. I’d put Tasi or Lorsan behind her instead

lavish lichen
wild tree
delicate hazel
still oar
#

Who is the gb near Athalia @delicate hazel? Is it legendary tier? If so use it to Ascend Shem to m and 161 her

pale rover
#

@still oar Looks like L+ Niru

still oar
#

I suspect it is

wintry turtle
#

Any advice on lineup??? This is what I’ve got goin on and this is the current lineup I use.

I will note that depending on the matchup I move my hero’s around.

Currently I’m stuck on 11-33 and I am getting completely swept!!!

I’m starting to think I’m just going to have to wait awhile until I can get everyone’s level up.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

delicate hazel
#

@still oar so after I ascend her it will help me clear that round 🤨

wintry turtle
dry smelt
#

Uhhhh your lineup is abit weird for your current level ;I ur heroes will only shine once they reach 161

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When u have them at 161, replace Belinda and fawkes for tasi and Lyca, and u can cruise through campaign easily, while occasionally swapping nemora for Arden

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But for now, u should still think of using saveas as your dps. Just because ur shemira is currently only at 132 and she won’t bode well in the current setup.

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She’s not tanky enough without her upgraded ultimate which allows her to constantly lifesteal

still oar
#

I expected so @delicate hazel. Since her 161 is that makes her top carry. Which stage is that so I can check my power was

wintry turtle
#

Okay. Thank you so much. I’m working on leveling her up.

I tried using Saveas for awhile but he kept dying and that was earlier on. So I used him to upgrade Brutus.

I’m currently waiting to get one more rare wilder to upgrade Tasi or Lyca. Out of the two which should I upgrade first?

dry smelt
#

U need Brutus and saveas together, place saveas behind Brutus

wintry turtle
#

Got ya

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Well I’ll start working on that again and then hopefully be able to push a bit further

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Thanks again 🤘🏻🤘🏻

sage depot
#

Any suggestions? Input, take out hero?

dry smelt
#

Arden do you have it?

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Ur problem is lack of tanks, this is due to saveas or ira being a massive dps that can one shot your ultimate carry

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So what u need to do is, have a sure fire way to lock those dps down

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And what other way to lock them down than to use Arden? To make sure shemira stays alive and carry ur team, replace nemora with Arden and place him behind shemira

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This will make sure Arden licking their saveas, yes licking. Hehe stupid auto correct, but it’s funny

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@sage depot

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Anyway @wintry turtle one of the alternative is to level saveas, while the second alternative is to power through it

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Just use Arden Lyca tasi Brutus and shemira tank and try to power through your stages with this

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Swap your lineup around between the 3 back lines or the 2 front lines

sage depot
#

@dry smelt THANKS☺️

dry smelt
#

Did it work for u?

slate swift
#

I’m at 15-32 and I’m stuck any tips of what I should do moving forward

dry smelt
#

What u should do is... reset ur heroes and focus on shemira

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Shemira tank at 161 can start carrying you like no tomorrow, just pair her with ur usual support such as tasi Lyca Arden with Brutus or Lucius co tank

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Or Rowan Rosaline fawkes, Lucius

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U focused on nemora instead of your dps carry, which is a wrong move to begin with

#

Once u 161 shemira, ur saveas can now be replaced, what’s ur number of Brutus copy?

slate swift
#

I have one extra one that’s about it

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I really don’t know much about the game I kind of just log in often and it got me here so I’m down for all the help I can get

dry smelt
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Okok so what u should do now

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Reset ur Belinda and focus on shemira

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Ascend ur shemira ASAP

slate swift
#

I need my hands on two more of her to ascend her

dry smelt
#

U can look at eating saveas to up Brutus , once u reach chapter 15 ish

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Or u can save saveas to do faction tower, no worries You will get shemira from lab shop

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Very easy to ascend her, one of the easier ones to ascend

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Then get ur tasi Lyca up for your wilder faction

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While upping ur fawkes Rowan and Rosaline for lb

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Hope for Brutus copies to ascend him too.

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Those are currently the meta heroes...... that’s why I’m emphasising on them@

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Arden will be useful too even on chapter 22

sharp plank
#

Any tips?

white ravine
green anchor
#

Is kaz worth keeping for any team

dry smelt
#

@white ravine try this comp

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Shemira Brutus Rowan Lucius Belinda

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This way ur shemira won’t be rooted by Arden, and that Rowan can tank athalia instead of forcing ur Brutus to tank her

white ravine
#

I'll give it a shot thanks!

dry smelt
#

Or u can swap Belinda for athalia to disrupt Arden plenty of alternative

cerulean hamlet
#

@final star
Tasi

  • Lucius
    Arden
  • Shemira
    Lyca
    You can try that maybe?
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It should work, esp seeing as you have full crystal 240

lost nova
dry smelt
#

U lack dps and ur heroes are kinda under levelled. Try using Lyca instead of lorsan? Maybe

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Focus on upping ur Lyca, she should be ascended first for ur wilder faction 😉

lost nova
random seal
dry smelt
#

Serious replace who?

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Gutson who does silicon jump on?

random seal
#

Tasi

dry smelt
#

Swap tasi and nemora so Silvia can aim Brutus

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Actually.... try this, lyca shemira nemora Brutus tasi

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This way, ur shemira won’t die as fast... and can ulti

random seal
#

Will give it a few tries... thanks

lost nova
#

He uses serius instead of lorsan. But it was before update so I can't view the actual setup. That's why im thinking the stage got buffed cuz his heros are all 20 levels below mine yet he cleared it in what's looks like seconds

dry smelt
#

Gutson, try to put horn on shemira so she can ulti asap

lost nova
floral cargo
#

I put the heroes randomly to save more screenshot space

random seal
#

Still not working for me ulricry

brazen badge
dry smelt
#

@random seal give summary of what is happening maybe? 🙂

random seal
#

Sylvinas second jump or vedans bats kills shem before ult

floral cargo
#

Can anyone help me tho?

dry smelt
#

whats ur artifact on shemira?

random seal
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The jump 1 shots full health shem

floral cargo
#

is now ignored for life

dry smelt
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@floral cargo use nemora brutus lyca shemira arden

random seal
#

Yes same line up... tried different... call on shem now

floral cargo
#

Mhmm?

dry smelt
#

Put a 4* boots on both nemora and arden and pray to RNG by repeating

floral cargo
#

Mhmm

rocky aspen
#

@floral cargo fawkes will probably coffin the khaos so he wont throw the axes. use lyca nemora to charm the enemy arden. brutus to tank, athalia to stall nemora

floral cargo
#

And shem to deal the dmg?

dry smelt
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what u need to pray is that... your arden and nemora cc their arden and nemora

rocky aspen
#

yes shem to deal dmg

dry smelt
#

3 wilders are all about RNG as long as u know the trick to it, just keep repeating

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4* mythic boots on arden / nemora allows them to outperform enemy arden / nemora

floral cargo
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Okay

dry smelt
#

there's always that 1% chance to win 🙂

floral cargo
#

Yeah I know I've done the 3 wilder trio before, but isnt it with tasi? I have her

dry smelt
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interchangeable between the 3 wilders depending on which one does a better job

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its between arden / nemora / tasi 🙂 normally i'd use arden and tasi over nemora. but incase an enemy has nemora. U'd want to charm her asap

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same goes with ferael, if they have a ferael.... try to charm him asap 🙂

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if khasos is destroying your arden before he roots... try and see if tasi will banish him first

floral cargo
#

I can still stop nemora from charming with athalia

dry smelt
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not stop nemora's charm

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u want your nemora to charm enemy nemora, so enemy nemora can charm her ally XD that's one alternative to look at

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this way its double the cc 🙂 can work on ferael too 😄

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if u wanna stop someone, stop enemy arden with your athalia

floral cargo
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Aha okay

restive mauve
#

@quiet falcon i would swap tasi and lyca and melt through the bottom side. You can tryout grez, athalia (for angelo/morvus) or fawkes too.

A 3 hero faction bonus (with athalia) might be all you need :)

dry smelt
#

is shemira dying through one shot? :I

lament birch
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@dry smelt If you meant me, no she doesn't. She can survive just till her ult would be ready

dry smelt
#

then u need to more cc!!!!!! throw the units behind and just have CC

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LB CC? or wilder CC, up to you 😉

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get them lyca (must) and the 3 interswappable CC machine.

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really, cc is all there is to campaign

wintry turtle
#

Any advice on getting the most out of this? Alt account I’m slowly working on.

dry smelt
#

sure

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quite good, just focus on saveas 🙂 for carry!

lament birch
#

@dry smelt so basically Tasi/nemora/lyca

dry smelt
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basically tasi arden lyca

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what is nemora? when she is not awakened!!

wintry turtle
#

I’ve come to learn that Saveas is the answer for most things lol.

glossy pagoda
#

So its gb 60. Quite a challenge for me, even with merc, cuz everyone cept arden has 2/3 more ability unlocks than my guys. Any ideas? Who to nara for starters? Should i crystal someone else instead of Baden? Should i try to get a powerful grezhul merc and use my itsy bitsy shemira? If someone thinks he can lend me the merc to make all the difference, I wouldn't say no. ;)

dry smelt
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saveas is only there pre shemira 161 @wintry turtle

tiny zinc
glossy pagoda
#

Any chance to get that arden to 141? He would be so much better compared to nemora then.

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Otherwise i'd try
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Fawkes/athalia

tiny zinc
#

Aye, will try!

random seal
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@dry smelt thanks... it worked with call on shem BRUHtus all it took was 2 hours of retrying... thanks mate

proven thunder
rocky aspen
#

Saveas can tank, Frontline him

glossy pagoda
#

Would still appreciate help with gb60 (a few posts above)

rocky aspen
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@glossy pagoda Nara the Arden. Frontline shemira and hope she doesn't die. Thoran up in front so he can fear more people

lament birch
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@dry smelt tommorow I should have her at Ascended triggerednemora

glossy pagoda
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The problem is that shemira eats the tasi banish, and enemy shemira ults first then

rocky aspen
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Yup that's the rng, have to keep retrying or wait for more levels. Not much else you can do since it's a mercenary shemira

glossy pagoda
#

Well i could try to get a 5star shemira instead or a 25+ baden or a 1star grezhul tomorrow. Just not sure who to go for.

rocky aspen
#

Sure but they're all still going to be level 169 with mediocre equipment.

pale kettle
glossy pagoda
#

I admit if the enemies were ascended instead of mythic i wouldn't even hope to defeat them soon. Or are those the first m+ enemies in tower? I really hope not!

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@pale kettle Try shemira or Saveas close to 120 rest of team at 80 an lucius at 81 or a bit higher

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Normally saveas would be definitly better at this level, but shemira has faction advantage against the lightbeares. Dont put her up against ogi, if you choose her.

pale kettle
#

Anyone I can pm to help me build my 3 line up for arena ? 🤭😁

topaz aspen
#

16-39. ira renders shem useless with the reduced health regen.
fawkes targets khasos.
any ideas?

glossy pagoda
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Reset nemora and saveas. Bring Estrilda to 180. Then
Nemora
Estrilda
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Atleast i'd try that

topaz aspen
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@glossy pagoda that line up helped even without resetting. just had some better gear on hogan transfered to estrilda.
thanks \o/

glossy pagoda
#

Well thats nice too

small portal
sly shadow
#

You tried estrilda?

glossy pagoda
#

I would reset belinda and brutus and bring saveas to 160 and Estrilda atleast to 141, then use Estrilda instead of brutus and try who supports saveas better, belinda or rayne.

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Also saveas at bottom and rowan in the middle

errant minnow
pulsar breach
#

How?

faint bay
#

Someone with 19-38 saved?

rain oriole
faint bay
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Alright thanks its pretty close to mine

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Know what artifacts you used btw?

errant minnow
#

move rowan up

faint bay
#

Oh wow just got through that @rain oriole thanks

rain oriole
#

Something like call/grace on Shem, call/drape Rowan, eye on Arden,

errant minnow
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call on rowan eye on shemira or viceversa

rain oriole
#

Oh lol, gz

errant minnow
#

gz

faint bay
#

Omfg i left the app immediately after winning and it didnt save

errant minnow
#

lol

drifting root
crimson kraken
#

20-42

errant minnow
#

cos ferael

crimson kraken
#

Vedan Is doing more DMG. Now i'm trying with fawkes and Is Better ( he coffin vedan).. but still lose

final star
#

@cerulean hamlet hey I tried for like 50 times but seems to be off some crucial ults, what arti do u use on luc&ardent

cerulean hamlet
#

Chalice Lucius Eye Arden

final star
#

Dang now Seirus is just being too tanky

indigo jolt
final star
#

@lostdenarian#8364 won ty

crimson kraken
#

@indigo jolt tnx, in the end i rent a Kaz Merc. But used a setup similar xD

sleek portal
#

Anyone has 25-10 ss?

indigo jolt
steep lark
glossy pagoda
#

@steep lark ye i also used tasi lyca arden there (and i really seldom use them) put lyca on in the crystal for this, you should have one from chapter 13 rewards

deep python
#

Anyone have a good way to get past 19-38?

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Nvm just beat it

unborn steppe
#

Thoughts?

light kite
#

@unborn steppe Looks good except for the seirus imo. would replace him. Same with Morvus. You're gonna have to replace Saveas soon too

unborn steppe
#

Was wanting to replace Morvus with Belinda and use Morvus to ascend Lucius. Hoping I can swap Saveas with Shemira but not getting lucky. No idea what to do about the Serius @light kite

light kite
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You don't want both Belinda and Shemira, pick one to carry you. As for Seirus you can keep using him, he's just imo very low priority compared to other wilder heroes, like Lyca, Tasi, Nemora and I'd also prefer Eironn

unborn steppe
#

Belinda probably makes more sense with the Lucius then right? What about a front line replacement? Grezhul maybe?

light kite
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@unborn steppe Your carry and lucius/brutus in frontline generally, once you get brutus

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@unborn steppe one of the popular meta things, and cheap to run is Shemira + Lucius/brutus and wilder trio (nem,lyca,tasi)

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When people run belinda, I usually see them in mostly full LB teams with Rowan, Rosaline and others

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Though you can't run Belinda frontline if you go her, so you'll need another tank, sometimes people put Rowan in frontline or another tank like Hendrik or Brutus @unborn steppe

keen lion
lapis wharf
#

Can someone give me advice on which faction scrolls to summon? I was doing wilder to get lyca/nem/tasi. But find myself using Rowan and Rosa quite a bit and don’t know if I should start pulling light scrolls?

remote otter
#

My Arden can't get his roots off dies from something he has call on

rain oriole
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Usually in those wilder formations I think it's the Ogi smash that kills him, he should be surviving in that position tho, try move lyca down one and a Rowan in place of Nemora @remote otter

next raven
remote otter
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@rain oriole thanks bud couple retries and won ready to beat this chapter

rain oriole
#

Gz, that same formation shows up again at 19-38, that line up works well again there too, so keep it mind

idle oriole
#

Chapter 19 goes by fairly fast because there's a lot of repeat formations so ya try remember them best u can

tawny jewel
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@next raven oh i just saw what you posted ... Mb. How many tries?

torpid stirrup
pale kettle
#

Maybe GB

worthy island
ivory breach
sharp egret
final star
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@nuke.pt#0001 Lyca for Nira and Rowan/Njra for Fawkes to disable Sylv

ivory breach
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runned some, was a good one not quite there yet, could get 2 shields and but shem didnt reach the 2nd ulti, gonna keep trying, maybe with some lvls in, sylv was disabled perfectly

sharp egret
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Sorry for spam it wasn’t showing it went through on my end

knotty bough
woven lichen
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@sharp egret may need to get shemira to 181 or try adding rosa so she ults twice

woven lichen
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@knotty bough What is dying for you when you use your strongest party?

Arden
-Niru
Saveas/Grezhul
-Vedan
Belinda

Could try overleveling Saveas rather than Niru/Belinda

knotty bough
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Ok thank you.

sharp egret
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@woven lichen she dies unfortunately, I think I have to wait for more power. Thanks

woven lichen
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@pale kettle could try swapping rosa and shemira so Rosa pushes enemies away

glossy pagoda
#

Do you have a nara larkin?

knotty bough
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It lasted a bit longer but still the same result.

pale kettle
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@woven lichen
I already tried it does not work

sharp egret
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No @glossy pagoda, would I put her on Arden if I did?

glossy pagoda
#

Either on arden or nemora, both would be worth a try. But you can hire a new merc tomorrow anyway, so that should do the trick.

sharp flame
woven lichen
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@pale kettle is it failing because top dies too fast? Could you flip it around have Shemira on bottom and Brutus on top?

glossy pagoda
#

I cleared 17-20 with 180,172,161,145,145 today

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And 180 was actually a tank

sharp flame
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@sharp egret I beat that stage today with:
Thoran, Lyca
Tasi, Shem, Arden

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@glossy pagoda which formation?

woven lichen
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@knotty bough Not sure what other heroes you have but you could try to use your strongest but also put more units of the same faction with Belinda/Saveas as your main damage dealer. Belinda might not be that great at your levels though.

glossy pagoda
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A fairly unusual one, cause iam not on shemira route. Seirus 180 Farael 172 Lucius 161 and i think lyca and tasi or arden