#lineup-help
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Try focusing defense in one side of the field only
Arden
Lyca
Lucius
Shemira
Rowan
Call on Rowan and eye on shemira or vice versa
Repeat until shemira doesn't get either rooted or ccd by enemy shemira
Alright thanks I'll try when I'm not busy at work 😂
Passed the one above using vedchad the tap s advice
But this one melts my formation like butter
Do you have decent agi gear for Saveas guy?
Nope... and his level is under the enemies atm...
Well i bet this with tasi lyca arden backline, hopefully it works with shemira too
I had luci and saveas 160 for this
Tasi lyca arden? Ill give that a go thanks
But saveas was mythic geared
@errant minnow so I'm getting destroyed to either I barely get alt off with shemira or I don't
Thankyou @glossy pagoda it worked
Great hopefully the lb are less scary for you, than for my saveas (used a mercshem for them)
which lineup can i use with saveas? i'm going to reset shemira and use him as my carry
i used, mostly, shemira and ulmus at front with lyca, arden and nemora backline, but i dont know who i should put at front and who i should remove from back
The same as shemira.
Saveas
Ulmus
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
If you can resonate brutus resonate him since you will probably will need him to tank other flank where saveas or ankhira is in
Didnt think lyca could work at front, or im just dumb idk, ty
She is mainly just for haste buff. So sometimes we just let her eat the damage and croak to buy time for others
I need help with 22-15 please!
@orchid egret
Thx ill try that! @still oar
Doable or do I need higher crystal / mercs
Floor? 285?
290
Guess I need Merc / higher crystal level otherwise everyone but Grezhul melts instantly
There this another with with 220 crystal but you need luc and Rowan @cinder crag
Well I can hire thoran Merc
Otherwise I am already close to 240 crystal so I can pass it then
F230
@scenic frost this was what I used maybe you can get the general idea.
Your Brutus will do better my Kaz didn't last long but her dodges kept her up long enough. She's my only tank, no Lucius, Brutus, or Grezhul, just Kaz. My Shem was in front of enemy Brutus. Do you wanna know their relics too?
Just give Rowan the call and Shem the blade, Arden has to root twice or so for you to win.
beat it
Oooof sometimes that happened to me, sometimes she'd have a slither of health remaining.
That's my Shem, if that helps
I posted a pic and asked which should keep for a lineup until i get more copies but no response this was yeaterday
post again
Yup. Please do post again.
How does your Shem not survive?😆
i beat it lol
@scenic frost nice, send a screenshot of the comp in the discussion thread pls
so what do u wnat to know, also auto retire commons
@astral mantle first tip you only need to level 5 heroes, with the resonance crystal which will be unlocked every hero you have on it will take the level of the lowest amongst the 5 you invest in. Second tip, use Lucius he's your best tank from what I see, invest in him for now and Grezhul. Go with something like Lucius, Grezhul, Belinda, Ferael and Shemira for the faction bonus and stuff for now. Research on other heroes to see where they're good at and just be patient. Don't feed ascended tier heroes to ascend other heroes, you'd regret it later on. Don't know how helpful this was but yeah as you progress and summon, this team can/will change.
ive bought 8 mythic int armor and none have rolled gb btw
This is resonating crystal. Use Lucius tho' he's one of the best ones.
I do have the healer i pulled awhile back but stull new to thos game.
Nemora isn't very dependable because right now your team can't take the beating till she ults so it's better to go for CC
Ok i wanted to make sure so i don't make those mostakes when i get to the highter chapters
15-40, what Merc should I try to hire when it resets shortly?
Depends what you need. Does your team die too fast or do you not have enough damage? What do you need?
Maybe a Lucius, considering i hired a shemira to go with my m-lucius for this
@spare girder thanks and how do i setup the team you suggested for the crystals?
20-4
Just been doing some reading up, seems swapping Lyca for estilda works well for 15-40, will try that
Tower 262
Yeah Arden roots but right after I get wiped. Shemira can’t even get ult off
You c any chance for me to get past this? Would really like to use my merc for 4stages later (end of chapter) which is basically the same stage, with Isabella instead of random skeleton
@glossy pagoda Shem is a bit pants early levels, you really need Sav as your carry. I'm not too sure what other options there at your stage
Sav and that green dude up front, back Arden, the red L+ lady and maybe Nem
19-28 any help?
try this line up, should be doable with those levels and a few retries @shell hamlet
got it ty
Does sav work befor 121? thats the point were i started using him on my main. Somehow i got away without a carry there befor that. Probaply because seirus + tasi combo was really good against those graveborn heavy Chapters
yes he does but u need a good tank. He carried me through early game even tho my tank was freaking skreg and satrana
Not sure, bit of a noob myself. Just seems you have 4 tanks out of 9 available
Ye the sigil event needs me to have different frontlines available
And out of 11 I omitted the line with mercs shemira and silv
Any suggestions? Too much damage for my comp and the merc doesn’t do much
Sadly saveas did not work, but izold at 120 and mirael 101 did the trick somehow. Probaply because izold kind of a melee Terminator
@sharp egret you need CC.
what can i do? this battle ends allways with full life on both side 😅
Please and Tasi doesn't work
@pale kettle take out Bel and put in Rowan if you have him.
@pale kettle i would try
rosa
shem
rowan
brutus
tasi
@pale kettle only Elite rowan ;-;
But i'm gonna try
@pale kettle IT WORK i ❤️ u :3
ilyt, that's more than my father has ever said to me hAhA 
@pale kettle I think I just have to wait for a better merc. arden and fawkes can get some cc down before dying, but the merc is always out damaged by rosa
@sharp egret why not put Khasos at the front?
he is deleted
Ah, getting Rosa onto Lucius managed to stall long enough for the win. Ira and Kaz are no joke if I didnt have M armor for Lucius I'd be stuck here forever (and lucius died like 90% of the time before ulting)
Have you tried replacing backline with Belinda-Rowan-Fawkes ?
Yeah shemira can’t even get ult off
Feraels have always been the hardest matchup for me when using shemira. How about putting rowan back middle and putting Lyca to frontline to get sacrificed?
Yeah double ferael just destroys me
For hard stages you sometimes just need to try very weird combinations. I once completed a hard stage by removing my faction bonus and adding 2 elite hypogeans to my team.
I’ll try mehira
You could also try backline shemira if you havent already
What team comp should I go for? What faction should I use scrolls and cards on?
Lightbearers and wilders are the 2 strongest factions right now. In my opinion lightbearers are the better choice right now but you cant go wrong with either of them. Saveas is your carry unit before 160 and shemira is your carry unit from 160 to 240. @lost hound
@coral pier thanks! I think I’ll go LB
It’s official 262 is unbeatable lol
oof
@pale kettle
False alarm 262 is in fact beatable
lmao you're welcome boo
@pale kettle

I tried it earlier though idk why it worked this time. I guess RNG lol
Oh god 263 has THREE silvinas
omae wa mou shindeiru
Have you not seen the meme? @pale kettle
No but is that Japanese lmao
Dont wanna go too off topic, look at pm
You dont seem to have a wilder dps hero @alpine lark
@pale kettle
i got two screenshots for you 
@coral pier any way to get it
rob the forest
Do you have your best gear and artifact on your wilders @alpine lark ?
Yes ofc
The lucius just continously ult when one has it when his is dine the other 1 does it
Your problem seems to be that you dont really have enough dps to kill them, maybe stuff as much cc in the team as you can and kill them that way
Renting a mercenary Eironn could help
Oki
16-12 any recommendations
stop making unnecessary Legendaries
Can i interest you in a wilder backline?
Replacing rosaline with lyca could work
And what suzie said is true, just because you can ascend someone doesnt mean you should. Fodder is rare so youll have to use it wisely
263 is down boys, 3 silvinas, is no match
youre welcome for providing the screenshots
@pale kettle
263 confirmed not impossible 
Haha youre on a roll @pale kettle . Tell me when you pass 275 and let me know what you used. Thats where im at
Wow 264 was much easier, first try
we're all gonna ignore the segment where I'm digging through my arsenal to find screenshots 

In the meantime help me out with 22-22 lol
Reset fawkes and take shemira and brutus to 240. Then replace fawkes with nemora. @pale kettle
Solid advice
You inspired me to do tower and I finally managed to squeeze through 300 @pale kettle
take shemira out of frontile and set a hero you want to sacrifice instead of her
I was serious about resetting that fawkes too. Faction bonus would help a lot.
Yeah I screenshotted your advice to use later 🙂
Try replacing lyca with gwyneth to get a faction bonus
Problem is Fawkes traps my shemira and everyone but Brutus dies instantly
Then when shemira gets out of the coffin she doesn't live long enough to ult
But I'll try
Y’all got something for floor 95 GB tower? My GB pretty bad except Shemira lol
I remember that one, call to shemira, try grappling ezizh
Then it's about rng, chaining shemira ults without being ccd by ankhira ezizh and tasi too much
Worth using a mercenary too for this one
You can push much further with shemira 240, I'm at 115
If you have kelthur he's pretty good to use as a decoy especially paired with thoran
They draw some pressure off of shemira so she can do her thing
@pale kettle I'll help you if you acknowledge that i'm the one that's providing screenshots 
Lol yes you are, beat 269 double wareks with athalia on the Arden. I’ll try what you said now @errant minnow
Oof first try on 95 GB
Sweet
3000 dust, thx for that 
"Lol yes you are"
-Suhly
Does anyone still know how to pass 21-37?
maybe post your hero pool and enemy lineup?.......

Got any screenshots for 270? lol @pale kettle
i have all the screenshots boo
@pale kettle
What should I do with my team? I have 2 hogans to either get Lucius (preference) or Belinda up to L but I'm just unsure who to put in it's place. Can Saveas take the front while I add Ferael in the back? Just got him to E+
Honestly dont evolve ascended tier heroes over elite+ unless you know you can make them ascended or if you need it to break a level cap. Just let saveas carry early. @pale kettle
so I don't do anything?
Saveas is not a ascended tier hero so you can take him to legendary+. Overlevel him and he can carry early.
Also start buying shemira from lab store so you can transition to using her as your carry unit when you can take her to lvl 161+
Yeah but as much as he is a carry early... I can't get him to L/L+ now, but I can get either Lucius or Belinda now, hogan is already dying pretty fast anywhere anyways, just not sure what I could replace Saveas in the back with as of now, and yes, I know about Shemira, no stress
Your saveas can go to 120 at elite+ you should start with that
Ascending isnt that big of a power boost either so it doesnt boost your progress that much if you dont break a level cap with it
Your brutus is gonna have to clutch it probably, ugh that stage was atrocious
Atleast you have a saveas that I didnt have when I did it lol
Aight lmao
Maybe if you have any other heroes that are higher than brutus you can reset to give brutus some more levels for that stage
After about 50 retries finally beat 270
How bout any help on this one?
have you used nemora
Warek just goes stupid wit 1 one health and 3v1 me
I'm not sure how to ask for help but I've been stuck here for the last day... I can't level any further for a while because I've run out of hero essence, help?
21-60
I can't pass this level to save my life...
swap other heroes for better combos
18-36 Shemira doesn't ulti
Main team is Shemira, Lucius, Rowan, Rosaline and Fawkes. just made a A0 Belinda. who should i sub for her?
I've been progressing well in the Campaign and PVP with Fawkes... but putting Belinda in his place will give me dps, but not cc.
@austere nova this’ll work better once you have more levels but eventually you’ll replace Shemira with Belinda
5 LB is a terrific comp for campaign
@compact sun only level your 5 highest ascended heroes. As for a line-up you’ll be fine with Brutus/Estrilda/Shemira/Belinda/Nemora
Who should be my top priority to level? Brutus?
@compact sun overlevel Shemira then Brutus
If you can, Saveas is optimal but for now focus Shemira
Suggestions on how to pass mauler tower floor 100? I’ve been stuck here for@more than a week now 😒
@spiral plaza should I reset my nemora then?
And me ?
@pale kettle borrow an ascended Khasos. As long as snipes a Nemora at the start it’ll snowball
*With his SI unlocked
Ok thanks! Hope I’ll find some in the mercs now.
@pale kettle keep Brutus/Shem/Rowan/Rosaline but put in Lyca
@compact sun reset Nemora and Izold. You’ll make the exp back on those other units as they’ll fed eventually
One last thing, should I get nemora to at least 20 after the reset or leave her at 1? Ty for everything @spiral plaza
@spiral plaza it doesn't work
Yupp whatever exp you have left put into her. Toss Izold into the crystal if you still want to use him
@pale kettle you could try Shem in-front if Brutus? As long as Rowan ults and stuns him before he melts Shem she should ult
The only issue might be Rosaline chunking him so just mess around with that
Borrowed Khasos would do the trick
Make sure that khasos is +10 at least
What should I take out? The Amazon cat in the front?
Yes, doesn't really matter. +10 Khasos fl will almost def will wipe that naras
Help with 272
Nah +10 isn’t necessary, the base SI is enough as long as it’s Ascended
@pale kettle try Athalia in-front of Tasi and experiment from there. As long as Shem doesn’t get banished
Got really close, didn’t use merc, used my own athalia. I’ll get it with rng
Mauler 140. Suggestions?
help with 21-60 pls
Maybe try to use athalia for the arden and throw ferael in there in the middle and move lyca behind brutus @clever cedar
@spiral plaza ... Replace Shemira with Belinda? why? Shemira has so much more Def and HP with the same gear/level than Belinda. Which is odd as Belinda has the pair bonus, which should be better overall
No that was a late game suggestion sorry for the confusion haha
Shemira falls off HARD
0_0' really? when?
Around chapter 23-24, and once your crystal is 240
The game becomes MUCH more comp-dependent at that point. Can’t rely on a single carry anymore
Ava what chap are you on?
23-34 😌
I see, I see
Not super super endgame but far enough to know some of the more niche things/comps. I also chat pretty frequently with guild mates/friends further ahead for their perspectives as well haha
Yeah same just wondering
Help how to clear this round? Or I need to grind more?
Honestly Id try saveas, hes beast at your level. That shemira vs ogi isnt gonna go well lol. Maybe throw saveas in the back behind lucius and lyca up front for haste/sacrifice
Any tips for progression? Should i go full LB?
Full LBs are very expensive. You need to focus on one hero from each faction to work on. Now you need to be buying shemira from lab store and working on a saveas because he will be a good carry for a bit until your shemira is over 161
22-44 kicking my ass
Dang i purchased a dupe khasos.. will get shemira next. What a waste
oof
While full LBs are nice, it’s definitely not F2P friendly
So saveas is the way to go i assume, to push through early levels
You’ll be getting 2 free Shemira (Chapter 14/Peaks) and the rest should be bought with lab coins. She’s universally the best carry until endgame. Before that, focus Saveas. He’ll carry until 13-14
Correct @frosty ridge, always make sure Saveas is over leveled
15-40 is a bastard
@pale kettle used that same comp for 274
I'll try it
@edgy flower try having Rowan where Tasi is. Keep resetting until Nemora charms Ferael in the opener
No matter what that charm is going to make or break it
Shem or Rowan depending on how the attempts go
That damn vedan man omg
Rowan is my go-to because it stacks with his innate energy regen
Try having Brutus soaking him, as long as Mehira stays mid it should work eventually
Shem should be getting her second ult off right around the time Mehira’s is ending
Nem has the hots for Grezhul it seems
Yeah her RNG can be finicky, just keep at it
PLEASE help me beat LB90 I’ve been stuck on this for so long
im gonna lose my mind if i dont beat this tonight haha
@scenic frost Swap the positions of Belinda and Fawkes. You'd want Belinda to kill Ferael and Khasos as soon as possible, as they're the biggest threat.
I'd also try to play around the formation like, putting Rosaline in Rowan's spot, so the travel distance will be reduced towards Belinda.
Enhance your gear if you need to, and if you want to go full try-hard mode, send me a screenshot of your artifacts 
@wise merlin im doing belinda blade, lucius call, rosaline chalice, rowan grace, fawkes eye
Call to Rowan, Grace to Lucius @scenic frost
rowan dies to silvina instant
Unless he gets targeted by Silvina. Ahh right
Could you get Rosaline to be targeted by Silvina? She can just walk away
Bit of a gimmicky tactic but have you tried baiting Silvia with a Mirael?
That being said I believe I finished that stage with a borrowed Estrilda frontlining where Lucius is
Subbed Fawkes out. Same comp aside from him
Beat 274 with your suggested comp @spiral plaza
Very nice! Grats 😁
Ty
i was having 0 problems with LB tower until 90 lol
and the fights arent even close on this floor
🤔 That can be changed depending on Ferael's RNG in stuns and autoattacks. Give it multiple shots, see how close you can get
ahh i got so close had 3 dead thoran and 1/2hp farael left and then thoran ult 1 shot all 3 of my team
Yeah that’s a thing that happens, always a pain. Just keep at with whatever line-up you were using for that
started this game recently and im on world 5
i have 70 saveas, 67 arden, 67 belinda, 65 brutus, 61 nemora
should i just keep level 1 hero (saveas)?
overlevel saveas as your early carry yes
How do I beat this?
oof 275 is very hard too @spiral plaza I’ve gotten the closest using that same comp again
still no luck D:
Put Khasos behind Brutus and pray for RNG lol @violet pawn
lmao that one
this fareal is so annoying its amazing
my belinda is always barely below full energy the entire fight
@spiral plaza Got through 15-40 on attempt #. 1334522
Ah nicely done @pale kettle @edgy flower 😁
Oh shoot thought you beat 275 @pale kettle sorry 😅
Rip
Anyone can help with this line up please?
Thoughts on my best pvp setup? I was running shem/thoran/wilder trio. I just ran ferael up to +27 sig and wondering how best to integrate. Shem and thoran are at +20, brutus and the wilders are at +10, everyone else +1
Can’t beat this, any tips?
Maybe shemira at top to avoid Estrildas cc?
Also who gets banished by thasi? Morvus or somone Else?
Melted by Saveas @glossy pagoda
U could also try resetting shemira for saveas if shemira doenst have like a ton of mythic gear or something
Morvus
I was thinking of doing that, aight I’ll try it
Worked like a charm, ty @glossy pagoda
He is way harder to kill than shemira befor 161
Hi anyone can help a beginner out? Stuck at 5-28
Need help with optimal lineup to clear 5-28
Try overleveling somone to 80 for example saveas. Maybe savaes 80 brutus 61 tasi und Nemora 41 and a random lowlevel wilder/mauler for faction bonus
If u have enough leftover xp for level 10 probaply chose arden
any tips for lineup? anyone?
current lineup is Brutus, Saveas, Arden, Lyca, Khasos
Get all levels beyond 81 from lyca to saveas
@glossy pagoda any tips on positioning ? or simply put them
And try weither khasos lifesteal or twins are more helpful for Saveas. Twins really start to shine at 141, not sure about their perfomance at your level. Try to get atleast one or two via wishlist of the following supporters: tasi nemora rowan rosaline
Usually brutus and Saveas frontline. If savaes can't take the damage put lyca there, her main use is the starthaste
@glossy pagoda tips for mine?
The lyca stuff was for you
put her in front?
Only if saveas cant tank a stage
Brutus is usually top front and saveas or lyca bottom
is belina worth to ascend?
Preferrable only if u get 2 more copys to bring her to L+
Last stage in chapter 11, any tips?
@tall forge Attacking golus first is usually bad strategie with saveas, to bad u already used that merc-Lucius earlier somewhere, je would do the trick for sure. Do you have any useful backlines besides the shown wilders? Like rowan nara fawkes nemora?
Any ideas? Sorry, slowdown didn’t let me add a message haha
Fawkes only @glossy pagoda
@tiny echo maybe
Lucius
-----Brutus
Rowan
-----Shemira
Rosaline
Or shemira and lucius switched
Can I use Estrilda as fodder to get to M+ my fifth character, Belinda, or should I keep her? I'm stuck in 20-40 and having all heroes lvl 200 + shemira 240 would really help
@Mastermanz maybe Brutus at 141 instead of arden. Its sad u have no good alternative for arden to make thus more reliable
What should be my optimal team and focus
How does mercenary equipment works?
@wide orbit #classic-questions
Oh I though I clicked questions lmao
@long ice You don't have a tasi anywhere, do you?
If you do, put her in your crystal and you can use something like: Shemira Grez Lyca Tasi and Arden
Should i put resources into graveborn to mythic grezhul?
Since your shemira is A, you can do that, yes.
I sacrificed arden tho for the eironn rip
Eironn isn't excellent until much later on, i would advise you to hold off on ascending him for now unless you have enough copies to get him to A
Naw 0/4 until ascencion. But i have close to 100k lab coins and 30 faction scrolls
Im deciding what to use resurces on
Nemora would be good, and wilders for your faction scrolls 🙂
Lpl need to make dat arden again lol
Yeah, he's very useful up until ch22 at least
Maybe E+ Arden already enough to be just as useful as L+
@gleaming flax You'll want your shem against the kaz with arden behind her
this gives your arden the highest chance to root the enemy kaz and enemy arden
if those two aren't disabled, they will deal massive amounts of damage
And if you arden isn't rooting faster than the enemy arden, put eye on him
Ok thx but it didnt work :(
👍
Sorry that i ask too much xD
Call ?
dura's call
Ok
Do you have blade on shemira?
I dont have it yet i will get them later i forgot to do them
200 shem should be fairly doable. That is shemira's best artifact, so i would recommend you do that 🙂
Ok thx
16-38, any idea? Should I get them all to 160 and farm Blade for Shem?
I would bring my tank to 160 atleast, but maybe it doesnt really matter for Brutus, since he is no lucy or something. Also swapping the frontline will atleast improve the factionclash.
@glossy pagoda what I thought, thanks!
Looking for comp suggestion, currently at chapter 8-16, thanks in advance!
If i was you i would go for Lucius Hendrik Rosaline Mehira Shemira. Remember to manually level up higher ascended hero in order to keep the hero in the crystal leveled up.
Also try to go for Rowan either in the wishlist or the current event since he’s % healing is REALLY usefull through the capters.
^would you explain manual leveling??
I’ll try. A Leg+ hero can go up to max level 160. That means that if you have 5 heroes Leg+ manually leveled up, all the hero (even the Elite or Elite+ as well as Leg) in the Crystal can reach level 160.
So even if you don’t use a specific hero but he’s ascension is higher than other hero you use, you should manually level him up and put in the crystal the other heroes.
Out of interest, why dont you combine your two mehiras? @tulip mesa
Also i would suggest using saveas over shemira
Shemira is rather weak at your level, whereas saveas is a beast until lvl 160
I agree but changing Shemira for Seaveas means that Rosaline will no longer be effective if she follows him.
Also arden is probably one of the most useful toons overall so give him some love as well
Imo saveas will probably carry harder than shem and rosa at that level
Remember that resetting toons is not expensive so its okay to pour resources into toons you will abandon at lvl 160+
Aaahh the resonating crystal! I should not put any default purple (and up) heroes on the free level up slots, am I correct??
If I were to use saveas what kind of comp should it looks like?
He’s gonna lose 3 heroes bonus if he cut Rosaline. Maybe it’s ok to put Saveas if you keep Mehira at more Power than him. But even so, not really effective with Rosaline. Start with leveling up manually all Elite+z
@tulip mesa Just manually level up the heroes that are more ascended, in your case the Elite+. The others goes into the crystal. With Saveas the comp should look like this: Lucius Hendrik Saveas Mehira Rosaline
Idk i didnt focus much on teambonus at that stage. %based buffs are more important when stats are higher. And its not sure if hell be able tp advance lucius or hendrick
At the least id use hogan over one of them if you wanna keep the race bonus
Well he can try what works best for him, that’s for sure!
Need line up for 23-45 ty @clear saddle
Thanks both! I did this and manage to clear the floor i was stucked for hours!
@tulip mesa Go for more! ❤️
@tulip mesa nice lineup there
@ember bane I dont have a screen for that stage but i finished all chapter 23 with Shemira Lucius Rowan Rosaline and Fawkes, should work for you as well.
Ogi he’s really annoying. You should try putting Brutus (no equip) against him.
what's the reason for not equiping him any equipments?
Because you want Brutus to enter his passive before Ogi throw him up into the backline so he can’t do that anymore.
Basically you save a lot of damage.
Yeah no problem! ❤️
what stage r u on? 20ish?
25..
no shit u know so much already lol
tiddius
Last stage on chap 11, what do I do ?
Can you screen your whole heroes pls?
Let me think...
Take your time 🙂
Mmm try this: Brutus Saveas Tasi Arden Lyca
If you have dura’s call give it to Tasi, let me know
Aight sec
20-4 not even really sure where to go from here lol didnt think id even get this far
@limpid pewter Mmmmmmm do you have time to test things out?
@tall forge Mmmm looks like you need more crit/dps.
I think that comp as an out. But if you want we can test more and see how it looks.
Suggest me some comps, I have to go for a bit so just @me in ur msg so I can see it later. Tysm 😄
Reset Saveas, put him 120 and level up Shemira. Comp should look like: Shemira Brutus Tasi Arden Lyca
I’m not sure if Shemira will be better than Saveas in this situation, but worth to try if you have time/some diamonds. @tall forge
@modern python my LB are only Legend don't think it would work for chp 23
@ember bane Mine were Elite+... We can try if you want.
Wait. Let me watch the stage again. Sec
Start with this comp: Brutus (doesnt matter which artifact) Lucius (Dura’s call, should be able to stun Thane) Rowan (drape) Rosaline (eye) Shemira (Blade). Let me know! (Even better if you can do a video)
@modern python this the result gave few trys
Can you do a Video? Also Shemira should be bottom left rowan top left and rosa in the middle
Might be worth trying Fawkes instead of Rowan in order to keep Khasos away!
Ah it succeed this setup thanks @modern python
❤️ Anytime. (Also i have most of the screen for cap 23, so don’t worry and ask whenever you want)
Cant beat 23-46 with this
@modern python oops 1st try
Lets go!!! 💪🏻💪🏻
@modern python stuck 23-49 need advice
Mmm who coffin fawkes?
@fluid phoenix Can you show me your heroes pls?
Ok help me out a bit. I just need to know how Lucius can stun that annoying niru in the backline
Brutus on 1 Rosa on 2 Fawkes on 3 Lucius on 4 and Belinda on 5
Just try and see if Lucius stun Niru (video will help me a lot)
uff i tried just now but still died horribly xD
Mmm lets try something else. @fluid phoenix
Sure, id take a vid but not sure how xD
Brutus on Top, Lucius right bottom (with Dura’s call) Fawkes Tip left Rosaline middle left belinda bottom left
The thing is, in my head things probably are going different in what’s happening, but i can’t figure out what’s wrong if i dont see it. I tried, maybe someone else will help you better! 🙂
^^ well if you can help me out with how i can show u it id gladly show you
For video i just downloaded an app, but i think this is not the right place for those advice.
Can someone Help me
Okay :)
@modern python my Fawkes goes for Shemira
Does Lucius with dura’s call stun the niru up there?
Do you see any chance for my mauler alt to progress here, befor i hit either sav L or Tidus L+? I know i shouldn't have ascended tidus so early, but he looked to much fun.
@modern python nope Lucius Rosaline die fast
@ember bane Any chance you could do a video for me? ❤️
@ember bane Mm Try Shemira Lucius Nara Rowan Rosaline.. duras call on rowan
Lucius Down there was not the right call. 😂😂 Maybe swap Rosa and Lucius
LB90 please help
Are you saving up diamonds for something
@prime plaza Really hard to say... but first of all reset that Lucius and manually level up Thane or Isabella.
No ... I'm just not sure where to use other then summons, reset lucious ok
@prime plaza I’ll use Lucius Brutus Shemira Lyca Belinda if i was you.
That’s what you use diamonds for, summons haha
Ok so lol I'm just cautious not to blow them for nothing. Ok I'll try that lineup
At your point in the game you don’t have to worry about buying gear for your characters, so you should just focus on getting your team ascension levels up
But yeah at that point you’ll end up using different hero depending on the stage, so don’t be afraid to try. Once you have more heroes available you can start using the same synergies more and more often.
Can anyone give me some tips for where I’m stuck? I really want to beat this
I can try, did you post screen already?
Yes I’m stuck on LB90
That’s the best advice i can give to you... honesly faction tower dont have much room with changes
@alpine lark Same goes for you. I can show a screen about someone passing it. I believe your best bet it’s to time well fawkes first skill in order to remove Brutus invincibility (yes he can do that)
So how
Once Brutus is in invincibility activate Fawkes first skill. So put away the auto out of the game.
Can anyone offer some advice for 21-60?
Thanks, still no luck... I'll keep trying
@maiden cliff
😔😔
or
First one smashed them, thanks @light kite 😁
nice
Nice good job!
Welp! I am not dealing any dmg against vedan+niru.
@tulip mesa are you using mehira active skill while vedan his in bat form or whatever is named?
@tulip mesa you're making it difficult for yourself by using Shemira that early, use Saveas
^has a point shemira is better past 160 than use her unless you don’t have seveas. Mainly because seveas is broken early game
I did try to manual it but i must spam their active skills asap otherwise theyll die
Also try replacing shem with saveas still dying; or saveas only works with specific comp??
Any help? I’m pretty stuck atm (was using mercs for help + bad draws recently)
Shemira powerspike is at 141 btw
oh you actually listened. alright, you need to not have 2 carries, that is not belinda and another carry. I'd recommend overlvling saveas as much as you can
shem is mediocre at 141 imo. Saveas is still way better
Shem is better past 160 imo
@tulip mesa well that comp was about shemira. We can try something different alround saveas but please re-post you heroes.
Aight gtg I’ll come back later
oh wait, that aws the other guy, I'm confused
but yeah, if you overlvl saveas you should be good. Get him to 120 asap @tulip mesa
@fickle sky Let me think!
This is my box:
yeah, you need to overlvl your carry. Get saveas to 120
Then you can also tank with him.
Perhaps izold could be useful, not sure how good he is early. Another one you should ascend is Arden
Honestly i would keep everyone but Shemira and put Saveas instead. You dont have much to work with.
But yeah i still like shemira more with Rosaline and dislike Saveas with those you are working with.
That's probably true, But start ascending Arden, he first stops getting useful at around my chapter
Arden is good, even more since you have Tasi so you can go 3+2 on the bonus.
I just reached chapter 11 so I know hogan will start falling off quickly. Do I have any one currently that could replace him in my lineup
See, that's a decent lineup(aside from belinda), but the levels are completely wrong
@carmine zealot Saveas in front and Rowan as replacement for Hogan. Can work imho.
@carmine zealot Go Shemira, Arden, Lucius, Rosaline and brutus for now till you get more wilders
Help for 20-32
@pale kettle Does fawkes serve any purpose? Get nem to charm estrilda instead imo. Could also do lyca
he takes mirael
Your heroes can't survive if he doesn't?
Isnt it better to go Shem 201+ and rest 180?
Hi any advice for 23-24 ?
That level was insane... as well as 23-26...
@versed canopy Honestly i dont remeber how i did it and took a lot of try/understanding of position + artifact. But for sure i used Lucius Rosaline Rowan Shemira and Fawkes. Try to swap them alround
(On Athalia i had either Rowan, even if he’s getting one shot or 2 hit it’s ok, Rosaline or Fawkes and pray for the dodges.) dura’s call most likely on Lucius
Oh I remember that one, I had a merc Lyca dodge tanking Athalia, Rowan mid, Nemora up top (she HAS to charm Seirus) and Shem/Lucius
Lucius/Shem were 240 rest 200
My lyca has like 590 Dodge she tanks athalia better than the 1 star lyca merc 390 Dodge i have, i'll try swapping out Brutus for lucius
Stuck on 15-21. Can someone help me out please?
Pls help 16-36
Burst him down
Tried burst him out, nemora is now the problem lol. Guess ill try again with more damage
@proven thunder I’not that familiar with the hero you have. If you got time and possibility to do video we can try togher to pass that stage. But not general advice, i’m sorry.
But yeah. You can just wait or ask others.
@modern python can u help me
@alpine lark I’m looking. Let me think.
@alpine lark Who put in the coffin fawkes?
Belinda
Mmm it’s really hard to figure this one out. Lets start with Shemira Brutus Fawkes Lyca and Rosaline
1 Shemira 2 Brutus 3 Fawkes 4 Lyca 5 Rosa
Can you do a video?
Totem guy or Vurk for L+ 🤔
@modern python cant but it doesnt work
Vurk has a good SI i would go for that.
@alpine lark Yeah some level i just can’t figure out what’s happening, i want to help you but i’ll end up wasting your time.
I also found that Kaz, Silvina on Rosaline/Rowan and Mirael make the stages kinda Luck based same as Angelo, Arden so yeah. Too many random variability to consider
I need a better Challenger comp
Do I need more levels or more heroes?
@chilly compass I think you are fine with what you got.
So I just need levels then?
Nah. I think you can beat it with that comp and those levels.
Alrighty here goes nuthin
Put arden at middle backlane, nemora at the bottom (she may charm saveas) and maybe use your own brutus to tank in front of that
nemora is charming brutus, and 1 attack is already enough to activate my brutus shield, but i will try a bit with rng
Well its good enought at least you win 5 ou 6 sec with brutus, if arden lock saveas its maybe more
If belinda can tank frontlane (top) to chage her ability faster with lucius's heal to help its good otherwise yeah try something else, maybe thoran / shemira or belinda / lyca front
i put belinda at frontline and it went a bit better, but saveas just kills my heroes at bottom and starts attacking lucius/belinda pretty fast
@modern python can you help me out here? 15-21 I’m just completely stuck
@narrow palm Later on, sure! I need to cook soon.
@wanton aspen try many times, with nemora + arden there is many rng moment so you never know, or maybe use others heroes if your ulmus can tank decently why not for team bonus
Awesome thank you! @modern python
@silver forum get rid of belinda in general, no need to have 2 carries, put in rosa or tasi
can I even do something do beat this stage?
@alpine lark you got any lyca?
Yes
@alpine lark 1-5 brutus shemira tasi lyca nemora try that a few times and see how that works
@alpine lark Wilder trio, Shemira top frontline, brutus bottom frontline
@pallid lake REE
@light kite @pallid lake doenst work
@alpine lark what happens
@alpine lark you’re gonna have to explain what happens or we can’t help you
We're just copying eachother at this point lel
Just saying it doesn’t work tells us nothing about what needs to change
@lofty depot what stage
Floor 280
@lofty depot try that
Got one for 275 lol that’s where I’m stuck
Oof my Thane is L+
Post it, I beat it like an hour ago but can't remember the enemy lineup, I used a Brutus merc though
@light kite @pallid lake i switched tasi to the lowest backline and it worked tysm
Ok I'll try @light kite
Yeah every hero got Insta killed except Shem @light kite
Im stuck
@lofty depot Yeah rip sorry, don't think I can help then
reset hogan + lvl shemira to 100 + remove isabella + add estridla for faction bonus + there gonna be some exp after reset hogan + lvling shemira , use it to lvl hogan back to 50 @livid quest
I cant level shemira to 100. Says not all heroes on pentagram is level 60
@light kite bro your tio doesnt help
Do you have a Saveas? level that instaed of shemira
i totally forget about this , then remove isabella + add estrilda for faction bonus @livid quest
My savaes is only rare+, is that ok
@granite chasm Shemira is shit that early compared to Saveas though
I would try vedan at 80 instead of shemira ulti with him when brutus ults, kane
She only starts overtaking him past 160
@livid quest I don't know whose advice you awnt to follow, but int he long run i'd recommend running and lvling saveas till lvl 160, Keep Arden in your lineup, keep Lucius in your lineup.
Been stuck on this for a while... any tips?
I can borrow any hero I need but I've been stuck awhile
Whats roughly happening?
Try
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Charm brutus maybe @thorny crystal
I'll try ty
@thorny crystal if your shit is just dying too quickly, try nem top, so she can charm Saveas
okidoki
thr savas ain't the prob its the dude in the middle he kills stuff to fast
You can try to put lyca front and count on her dodging if your shem doesnt survive the front
I have xD
Warek can be annoying, but charming him wont help
I am stuck pls Help its 18-36
yea he is annoying as
A merced thoran might be able to keep him busy long enough?
Im just at a stage with a strong warek + athalia combo ans thoran was the answer
@night gorge you passed 275 yet? Lol I’m stuck there too and nothing is working
would this team be alright (after I get the 2 leveled up)
I eventually want to switch out 3 for the unit below her, to the right of 4
I'm still new so I dont remember all their names yet
@arctic obsidian at lower levels, Shemira (#2) isn't that amazing.. usually want to wait until L160. You can try Saveas instead (guy with the horns... far right in 2nd row). The one to the right of 4 (Rosa), is a good support character. The one to the left of #4 (Mirael) is decent for damage too.
@atomic summit You probably want more support or damage with that party... so either rowan, mirael, arden, or saveas. You can also try substituting one of the tanks in front with Lucius/Brutus and nemora with rowan/rosa too
Okay thank you
I’ve been running Grezhul, Vedan, Shemira, Elijah and Laila, and Ferael, for pretty much all content. Any suggestions that don’t involve ascending?
Like, Saveas instead of Vedan in front row has worked sometimes but I’m not sure if it’s worth losing 5x faction bonus, and believe it or not, angelo instead of Elijah/Lailah back row has sometimes done better in Lab
Your priority should be carry>tank>dps>support and grezhul is tank/support
Shemira should be your focus
@woven lichen thanks you for the help 
Put brutus on cyrstal and saveas is a beast behind him @faint current
Even though Brutus is only Elite?
Yeah i finished chapter 12 with him and saveas and some support
@faint current also duras drape is decent on him and duras eye is great for saveas
9-24 I can’t beat. Brutus died first both times. I only have Dura’s Grace, let me try putting that on him.
Try brutus on the lower tank and put saveas back line very bottom and put arden in instead of ferael
Also Peaks of Time 3 I’m stuck at 60%, 4 I’m stuck at 10%, but I figure I just need higher ascended heroes.
Yeah sometimes those are tricky youtube videos help a lot @faint current
Naw same scenario each time: the second Brutus does, saveas and Arden die instantly also. Maybe I just need higher ascension.
Ok I’ll check out YouTube. The Dura’s items are free stats so getting even 1 more should help a lot.
Thank you
Hmm yeah try peaks of time ive gotten to the ancient ruins with 120 heroes
Np plus youll get scrolls/diamonds/dust etc itll definitely help you out 👍
So... who was the guy that asked my help again? 😕 Can’t remeber his namez
@modern python Did they mention you with a tag at any point? If yes you can search discord for recent mentions or evt just search for your last messages in this channel
Yes!! Great idea. ❤️
Do you have any ideas? (21-52)
@narrow palm You there?
Yes @modern python
@spare juniper Try:
Nemora
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Tasi
Or evt, swap the places of Shemira and Brutus if Shemira doesn't dodge, evt you can opt to go
Nemora
- Brutus
Tasi - Lyca
Shemira
The key is to get Nemora to charm Arden so he roots his own team though
Make sure she has the best boots you have and it might still take a couple tries
@narrow palm First of all can you do videos?
@cerulean hamlet Ty
Any ideas what to do here?
Id probably reset belinda and make arden 141 instead
Yeah, and replace the belinda with Nemora and get her to charm saveas @west finch
I lose the hp buff then tho
The faction buff? Doesn't matter, heroes are more important
Oh
Stuck on 22-42
@halcyon oriole
@west finch If you place the nemora opposite the saveas you get the best chance to charm him
@light kite Thanks, I‘ll give it a try!
@west finch Look how useful arden is, even used in chapter 22, lel
@halcyon oriole if it doesn't work theres also this one
Raine could be replaceable with maybe a fawkes where you time his ult to remove last gasp
@light kite i am well aware of that but it doesnt matter because my lucius/shemira die before nemora/arden get their CC off without the faction buff hince the question
@west finch I see. Try brutus in bottom frontline, shemira and arden in the top
@west finch
Arden
-Shemira
Lucius
-Brutus
Rowan might work, or rosaline
Still too much dmg output?
@light kitei got it with the last one ty!
@light kite Ok, have to try a bit and maybe rent a hero.
KT 289 any tips?
@light kite Work with Fawkes, thanks!!! 👍
@maiden patrol i assume fawkes coffins shemira right ?
@maiden patrol Might not work out due to hero changes though, dunno
Can I get some advice for best team from these (basically which 9 to level too unless that's best placed in questions, from 5 actually levelled + 4 Res crystal slots)
Will have the coins for a Nemora in an hour too (assuming getting her is better than E+ing Shemira at this level)
@umbral wraith why the fuck are you lvling so many heroes
@umbral wraith Saveas,Tasi, Arden, Hogan and I guess Rosaline for now
the 20s and below was early game when I didn't know what I was doing at all. Is it worth the gem spend to reset them now? I just haven't been putting anything else into them so not still levelling them anymore
@umbral wraith no don't, when you use them as fodder you get the exp back anyway
@idle girder yes
@light kite dont have arden, so ill try to level my whole team. Because saveas with brutus 2 hots everything
22-42 need help 😦
My Grezhul is getting literally 3-shot by enemy Saveas every time. What gives?
Any tips for 25-56? Pictured team is what I've been using to progress
@faint current i would use Brutus to soak up the damage, or a light bearer tank. Best to go vs savaes early game. Or another savaes lol
Why do I find shemira trash?
Thanks
She does no damage and dies every time
Yooooooo wtf
^ Shem front line/carrying dps in chap 25
I think she excels at lvl 161
Lol my level is 69 :/
Oof, give it time.
Shem is pretty trash at lvl 69 lol
So I’ve been told. Also, a full team of 120s and a 140 Grezhul lost to an L+ 140 shemora by herself
Is antandra good? She always does the most damage
Saveas is the go to early game
Antandra top tier for arena, but I haven't seen her used elsewhere
I literally never see her being used
Can you help me make a comp?
oof you have 7 heroes leveled up, you only need your 5 highest ascension heroes leveled up
Wdym?
Resonating Crystal the rest
Me too, no worries
Only 5 have to be leveled up, your 5 highest ascension heroes, the rest go on the crystal. You dont have to level up every hero individually
Which ones should I level up?
As long as you’re A) not using good heroes as fodder, B) NOT using diamonds on stuff other than 10-pack heroes and C) doing all your daily stuff, you’re doing fine.
What can you spend diamonds on?
Buying equipment (don’t!) for example
Your 5 highest ascension which in your case are all Elites. You can reset 2 of them and get your resources back to use for your main 5 and then other 2 go on the crystal
Which ones should I reset? I don't know which ones are the best.
You should only spend diamonds on the 2700 “buy 10 heroes” pack
It doesnt matter because they will be on the crystal lol. You'll still be able to use them
Oh ok
@glass ermine Brutus got 2-shot, but the immune shield bought enough time for my team to kill the rest of his team. Brutus died but everyone else was left at 100%. Thanks!
Oof just noticed you have an elite+ hogan so since he is your highest you need to level him up and he should be one of your main 5 so reset satrana and antandra
Also, Brutus fkin OP with that damn shield.
@pale kettle thanks :)
@faint current np dude congrats
I mean it doesnt really matter who but just make sure your top 5 highest ascension are always the 5 that are leveled up. Rest go on crystal @modest rune
Ty
Who should i level up to 220?
Please help me out been stuck here for a while
I assume you tried the standard trio with brutus shem @pale kettle ?
ye
Need help with 20-54. Especially dealin with Ira. Lady is two shottin me.
24 14 halp
Grace on Fawkes yes? @cerulean smelt
nah xd
@cerulean smelt you want Grace on Fawkes , occupied Athalia with Fawkes and Rowan and let Ferael and Shem dps them down slowly , I assume also Fawkes coffin the lyca?
Yup
Yep , the lineup seem fine ; give it a few try with Grace on Fawkes and see if Rowan and Fawkes can stall out the Athalia till the damage kick in @cerulean smelt
@pale kettle have you tried:
Front: Brutus, shemira
Back: nemora, Lyca, tasi
ok i finally did it thanks, never thought to give fawkes grace xD
Could I get some help on mine? Ira keeps one shotting me in particular
Stuck on this, anything i can do? Spider lady and brutus destroys me
Hey I can pass map 24 at which level? i'm currently lv 255, total strength is 10m. I very need faction scroll :((
It also depends on sig, ascencion and effort. @brazen badge
For f2p on average probably 260 @brazen badge
@modern python I need advice for 23-60 ty
@modern python thanks succeed Red do you have friend spot for me
❤️❤️ Yeees! I have screenshot for cap 24 too. I’ll free a slot for ya. But are you sure? My hero are nothing special.
Np
Help with 95 LB
@pale kettle give heavy gear and proper artifact
185 LB
@modern python I need your Belinda ty
Yeah not working @ember bane
@glossy furnace your form is similar to my own.... i think shuffleling around your Shemira might help...
I passed that stage yesterday.
More arden tasi or lyca perhaps?
@vale flower
Beat 20-52 with
How do I beat KT 280? Shemira gets Coffined right away and then I just lose
What did you use for 275, Im pretty stuck @oblique phoenix
@oblique phoenix found this SS for 280
I need some advice. I play a meta team and have 7 Ascended heroes so It’s not a concern. Looking at my Wilders here, should I take my Lyca to M+, my Tasi to M, or my Kaz to Full Ascension?
@alpine lark I'd vote something like
- Belinda
--- Lucius - Rowan
--- Brutus - Rosaline
Should be one of your best bets.
Artifacts? @full temple
Eye for Belinda, Call for Rosaline. I'd say those two are certain and should get her ult off the fastest. Probably drape for lucius, grace for rowan, and blade for Brutus, but those are the only ones I've gotten to do much with @alpine lark
Hey everyone! Any help will be greatly appreciated. This is what I’m going against and the available ppl in my arsenal
Recommendations here?
@opal hazel decide on what faction you wanna play, generally speaking people play LB support or Wilder support + 1 carry + 1 tank or 2 tanks 1 dps 2 support. generally, saveas is the carry until chapter 13 or so.
@quiet falcon use lucius tank brutus, i'd take brutus out put lyca in and put shemira frontline and put either arden/nemora for top back, if i put nemora in i would put middle back so she charms ferael to cc their own team, it would give enough time for tasi+shemira to proc
@sand rune tbh, i PERSONALLY wouldnt even invest in kaz, but if she's the kinda hero you like go ahead, i'd wait it out and see who reaches 8 copies first, then i'll ascend that hero. right now you're not level capped so take your time.
@pale kettle estrilda ALWAYS MUST cc ulmus, top put brutus in to kill kaz, backline put lyca and either tasi/arden(depending on who works better) then last slot shemira, you could also try putting nemora in at bottom back to charm saveas so he kills ulmus faster. it depends on your wilder supports cc proc
@glass ermine what level is that
25-56
Any idea?
@ivory fable i remember using lucius at top front, belinda bottom front, fawkes top back, rowan mid back, rosa bottom back
@sleek portal What level?
@pale kettle err i think i did it at 260, but my ascension was way lower than what you have. my tanks and supports are at E+ only fawkes and belinda at A0
Help
@random seal Swap Nemora for Arden, root the 3 on the bottom twice in a row, that should be enough
Thanks 👌 will try that
@alpine lark do you still have the merc usage for this week?
no
2 ways to go about it if you wanna try using meta lineup, 1 is hire a good estrilda to cc ogi then backline put lyca shemira arden, or you could try wilder trio + shemira + brutus, brutus face kaz, lyca face ogi, arden/nemora top/bottom back(depending on who shemira silence), and cc. 2nd route requires a fuckton of resets because your lyca is at low ascension and she's highly dependant on gears now for max dodge
23-56 help
Whats a good team to counter this?
Its the combo of Shem and the mages that wreck my team
23-60
Help plis
23-60
Not that far cant help maybe u can help me? Its 16-40
Maybe brutus 180 instead of belinda would be a good start for this one @alpine lark
Use the same backline as the enemys together with brutus and shemira and aim nemora(with call) on enemy arden
If her charm is still to slow use call on your own arden
@quiet falcon try swapping brutus and lucius position, im assuming tasi is going to banish brutus or sav, could also try nemora to charm sav/ankhira
Worked with arden insted of lyca 4 attempts
Any help with 19-38?
Tried with athalia and lyca a lot of times
in that order?
@weak path shit just dies too quickly like that. Any idea who I could replace with Numisu to have this lineup succeed
rosa?
You could try running nemora top to charm vurk or ankhira instead of athalia and throw arden bottom to get a root or two off
Or you could try a LB setup since they are heavy mauler
@weak path @odd python did it with that setup and replaced numisu with rosa. Thanks for the help
Which setup did you clear with
the screenshot i linked - numisu + rosaline
:+1:
yeah honestly when stuff doesnt work just shove in supports in all the slots until it works lol
well, just ran into a similar setup but vedan instead of estrilda. Makes it harder
try out your mehira too see if she works the haste/ult can be handy
Hey guys, maybe you can help me. I'm currently struggling very hard in crafting together the optimal comp with my current Heroes..
@tiny zinc use a comp with something like brut,sav,arden/nem,lyca,tasi
And than depending on the enemies you are facing swap positions
idk how good rigby is, maybe brutus invinc will help in that slot, swap nemora with belinda so she can charm saveas for dmg
@broken egret Thought about something like that too, but Lyca is only Elite... Does this even matter?
@tiny zinc i still run lyca at e+ at my stage, and use her lke 99% of the stages i fight
Hello, can anyone help me with 19-38?
@broken egret Okay, I will try this.
But another Problem for me is, that the only L+ and therefore the only one besides Sav, that can be leveled above 140 is Vedan and I can't use my EXP, so I will have one 160 and 4x 140
@smoky delta might be getting hard with your current levels, but i would say have the nem face arden so she can charm him and he roots his own team. However this only works if your nem is fast enough(needs decent boots). If you dont have this you should use an arden to root the enemy arden and i would take out the nem in that case for arden
@tiny zinc yep thats correct, you should start working on getting more units to L+ so you can actually level again. Getting for instance arden L+ is a really good investment especially as you can always fodder him away again later when he loses his usefulness(but thats not till like at least chap 20 probably)
I have tried this but my Nemora is too slow 😭 I've been trying with Arden instead but he dies very quickly and the roots are not really doing anything. Is there anyone I can swap out besides that or should I just keep trying?
@smoky delta the comps that i can think of, that i would use myself there are:
arden
shem
lyca
brut
tasi
shem
lyca
arden
brut
tasi
Also give me a minute, ill try and see if i still have a screenshot for this stage saved
@broken egret Thank you very much, will try this from now on!
Would raising Arden from E+ to L make a difference? I've been saving the fodder just in case but maybe I should just raise Arden?
@smoky delta ye definetly a coin flip, quite often when you face wilder comps with the shem meta comp its just gonna be a coin flip hoping you can cc them more/faster than they cc you and if you are lucky enough you win
21-53 tried a lot of things I can kill all but nim and shemira they just heal so much
@pale kettle here was my lineup
Oof I’m so behind u in levels and ascended
Okay, I have another one 
Would be awesome, if I could get some help again (@Dion_de_Greef your Suggestion workes perfectly atm)
your hero set is quite a bit different nvm, see if you can fit in nemora to charm ferael rather than using athalia on him, maybe use athalia to slow the enemy shem energy gain
Thanks I’ll try
the problem is grez increases magic resist for all of them so its quite annoying when youre running shem
@tiny zinc i would try something like:
bel
lucius/estr
lyca
estr/lucius
arden
see how that goes
@pale kettle something that works quite well for me when facing fereal stages is to just charm him using nem so you can actually get your ulties of. And i would have shem on that side as well so you can try and kill fereal quickly.
@broken egret Damn, thanks man this is working too :D
@pale kettle if ur gonna use athalia you either want to hit shem to slow her ult or isabella as she probably does a lot more dmg
Getting my ass handed to me in 8-40 ><
Top 5 are my usual line up but I switch Tasi out for Nemora or Shemira for Nemora
@knotty bough i think you are lacking supports/CC. mehira would be better middle to hit all with her ult
@surreal venture can you also show the stage pls
Noted. I switched jt.
@surreal venture you can try
tasi
lucius/brutus
arden
brutus/lucius
saveas/shemira
That did it! Thank you.
Any help here? (Pulls been trash)
I’ll pull up my brothers in a sec since he asked for help aswell and stuck in chap 8. (Not old enough for discord atm)
@fickle sky take it to #classic-questions
Aight
Try
Nemora(lyca)
Shemira
Lyca(nemora)
Brutus
Tasi
Tasi should banish Khasos and Nemora charm IRA or nemora+ira @idle oriole
@still oar ty will give it a shot
Im going shem, rosaline, lucius, belinda and raine right now but what would you guys do bettet? And what upgrades should i Focus on?
I would try
Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Luc
Fawkes
If you want to try lb support for Shem. And put Raine in for fawkes or Rosa.
And you know you can revert that raine and shemira to get the resources back since you'll need the copies to ascend them from m+ to A @zenith tusk
And as for focus
Lb raine since you already dig deep
Gb Shem
Wilder nemora
Mauler maybe khasos or skreg depends on you rng later
i'm sorry i didn't understand the part about reverting shemira and raine!
You have extra L of them right? You can go to rickety cart and revert them since those 2 L copies are waste of resources
@coral pier You got any magic comps for KT 275?
oh yes but they are lvl 1, arent they? im saving em for the ascension later! sorry if im not getting it. and i screenshotted everything else so i do it!
@pale kettle Oh wow its a pretty rough one. Maybe you could try stacking your team full of damage dealers so the tasis dont have enough banishes. Maybe get a mercenary.
I dont even remember what I did for that one
Yeah I’ve tried about every possible combination I swear, the Ira and seirus wreck me
Have you tried eironn back middle to kill everyone but tasi?
Do you already know the requirements to ascend heroes @zenith tusk?
That's why I ask why you need to make L copies of Raine and shemira
yes
no i don't apparently, i will search right now! thanks dear!
@coral pier

