lineup-help

[idle oriole]

@pale kettle send the stage as well

[pale kettle]

a sec

Can also reset fawkes and raise saveas post-141

should i do that to have more over-141 heroes?

[slow tusk]

Someone can help me to pass this level?

[pale kettle]

Fawkes
Estrilda
Belinda
Thoran
Nara

@slow tusk

[subtle breach]

Any suggestions on this stage?

[dark current]

Hi, I need help on the 23-42

[summer hatch]

Stuck here any tips?

[pale kettle]

@broken granite

[broken granite]

thanks it helped

[dark current]

And for me?

[slow tusk]

@pale kettle thank to you but I don't win

[faint bay]

anyone with 18-40 saved?

[wise merlin]

@summer hatch Hello! 🙂

Try this;

Tasi
Shemira (force Tasi to teleport then make sure Shemira's RNG will silence Tasi and not Niru)
Nemora (charm Seirus)
Lucius
Lyca

[half sorrel]

Damn imagine being so knowledged.

[faint bay]

Just got through 18-40 using this

[carmine orbit]

im stuck here any help/advice greatly appreciated:)

[wise merlin]

@carmine orbit Hey!

I'd insist that putting Nemora to charm enemy Ferael is a necessity, since if not he will stun 3 of your teammates for enough time to ruin your lineup in no time.

Try to go for a Wilder trio lineup :

Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca

[carmine orbit]

@wise merlin any specific relic on certain hero?

[wise merlin]

Call for Shemira, Drape for Nemora, Blade for Brutus (to increase his lifesteal), Grace for Lyca (increase dodge)

If that doesn't work, give Grace to Shemira, call for Tasi, and keep the rest the way they are.

If I forgot any relic you happen to have do let me know! 🙂

@carmine orbit

[carmine orbit]

@wise merlin

[oak lance]

Hey any help? Struggling on 21-20

[wise merlin]

Swap between Drape and Eye, so that Nemora can survive a few more initial attacks without being interrupted. your main goal is to get Ferael charmed and for him to Terrorize his own teammates @carmine orbit

@oak lance Hey! Arden is your solution.

Root Brutus, Khasos, and Vurk about 2 times and by then your Shemira will gain enough energy to kill them all.

Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Arden

[zealous harness]

Which team would suggest me here? Diamonds to reset are available, I can raise one to 81, the other 4 are at about 72-74

[pale kettle]

You have too many heroes leveled up. Level up your 5 highest ascension heroes

Rest goes on the crystal

[zealous harness]

Already tried different setups but Ankhira almost kills everything. And Suhly I only have five heroes leveled. Three are on the Crystal with the fourth almost available

I just refuse to reset both level 11 ones

[wise merlin]

They're definitely not worth the 20 diamonds you'd waste into resetting 2 level 11's. . . at an early phase of the game like yours you should definitely keep your diamonds for 10x pulls.

Other than that, could you please take a screenshot of your formation vs the enemy? which includes might difference and the enemy's formation positioning? Thank you in advance 🙂 @zealous harness

[pale kettle]

Smh 🤦🏻‍♂️

[zealous harness]

Here you go @wise merlin Appreciate your help! And yeah, all my diamonds go into x10 pulls despite occasionally resetting a hero because my crystal slots are limited

[wise merlin]

@zealous harness

I have an idea...

Perhaps you could use Numisu instead of Rowan? to provide you with a full mauler faction bonus? ( +25% ATK and HP) while Orthros is in your team?

Numisu
Antandra
Golus
Orthros
Saveas

Swap some gear around if you need to, play with the formation a tad bit, see what gives you the best result! ^^

[zealous harness]

At best I was able to beat half an enemy 😂

[wise merlin]

Did you get a better result with Rowan?

[zealous harness]

Not really 😩 Already looked at the level 81 skills for them but can't decide there which could benefit the most

[wise merlin]

I'd say Saveas, since he's the only trustworthy DPS out of all of your characters, even if it doesn't seem like it, he's quite a powerful carry

If you'd like to continue this please DM me. 🙂

[wanton aspen]

Which are some lineups i can do and who should go to the crystal? Nemora is already going there

Currently on 6-5

[half sorrel]

you should wait because other than nemora all the other heros you have cap at leg+ levels.

[autumn carbon]

Who should i level from 220 to 240 between lucius and shem? Im at 21-something campaign

[still oar]

Shem as carry

[harsh frost]

Some help here pls!

[pale kettle]

Have you tried Shem up front @harsh frost

You could throw the nemora in to try to charm that Arden or grapple him with Nara

[harsh frost]

Shemira up front will die in one or two hits

[pale kettle]

What about Lucius does he die quick or does he get the shields

[onyx cedar]

Hello, im still at early game.. Lvl 60ish hero.. I already got lucius brutus tasi eironn saveas.. Should I get shemira or nemora from labyrinth? Thanks in advance..

[pale kettle]

Keep getting Shem until she is ascended

[delicate hazel]

Any tips? Been trying different combinations

[strong bramble]

@delicate hazel use shemira and saveas instead of belinda and lucius

[delicate hazel]

Who should I swap with? @strong bramble

[carmine orbit]

@wise merlin i finally beat it with your advice thank you it was just rng based

[pale kettle]

Any improvements that I could make?

I also just got an elite Lorsan

[wind glade]

Im stuck

[pale kettle]

why do you not have a Tasi @wind glade

[wind glade]

idk 😦

[pale kettle]

is she on your wishlist?

[wind glade]

i dont checked this for like 2 month(only playing since august)... and yes she is propably since i startet playing

omw to getting 1

[remote otter]

Any ideas? Faction tower floor 60

[pale kettle]

i don't know to be honest , I kinda just did it @remote otter

[cerulean hamlet]

@remote otter Time fawkes ult to remove 1-2 or more immunities from the brutuses, don't run the battle on auto and maybe get a strong lucius/gwyneth or thane merc could work too

[chilly compass]

Should I just wait to lvl up my heroes?

[cerulean hamlet]

@chilly compass Shemira 161 will help a lot but you can try:
Shemira

• Lucius
  Rowan
• Saveas
  Belinda

Or another LB, I can't quite see what else you have

[cerulean hamlet]

Try fawkes behind Saveas and see how that goes

[chilly compass]

Thank you @cerulean hamlet

[high loom]

Ye or na

[mossy kelp]

19-38 can someone help me?

[cerulean hamlet]

@high loom What is your question?

@mossy kelp Um, sure. Post the map and what heroes you have

[mossy kelp]

Did you get both?

[cerulean hamlet]

Nemora

• Lyca
  Shemira
• Brutus
  Tasi/Arden

That should work I think, as long as Tasi + Shem both ult

[mossy kelp]

OK I'll try

[cerulean hamlet]

Will take a bunch of RNG though, hope nemora charms arden etc

[mossy kelp]

What artifacts should I use?

Lke that or should I use my own nemora?

[pale kettle]

Can Raine, Gwyneth, Rosaline or Fawkes operate at E or they need to be higher? Need a 4th to complete my lineup

Currently it’s Rowan, Belinda, Lucius, Shemira (Carry)

I have an L+ Estrilda as well but I don’t believe she can fit..? Currently using Shemira as frontline

My Rowan is at E only if that helps with the composition (Lucius and Belinda are at L+, Shemira Mythic)

[cerulean hamlet]

@mossy kelp Your own Nemora is fine, her ascension doesn't really matter as long as she charms

@pale kettle Rosa/Fawkes are usually fine without higher ascensions. Gwyneth usually wants higher ascensions though

[high loom]

Stuck for a day what should I reset/ascend/do

I have enough gems to reset everythig if needed

[mossy kelp]

I did it thx!

[high loom]

Anyone ):

[hollow thistle]

Having issues with this tower lol

[mossy kelp]

@cerulean hamlet thx I actually completed the chapter

[cerulean hamlet]

Grats!

@hollow thistle Try get a strong Warek merc, if you can't then a Safiya/Khasos with sig would work too

@high loom
Nemora

• Eironn
  Saveas
• Lucius
  Arden

You really should level a saveas, he's the best carry early game

[hollow thistle]

Cant get any mercs unfortunately rip

Are there any other maulers i can use for it instead? Like tidus or something

[cerulean hamlet]

Not really, Warek Khasos and Safiya are the most reliable ones at doing that

[paper wadi]

pls help 🙂

[clear saddle]

@paper wadi Maybe try

Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Arden

[ripe garnet]

Help plz,last stage of field of stone voyage

[pale kettle]

switch saveas and lyca and pause and restart if it looks like all heroes are gonna die

[ripe garnet]

Ok thx

[paper wadi]

@clear saddle ty i think with a lot of tries it will work

[onyx cedar]

Hello, im still at early game.. I already got lucius brutus tasi eironn saveas.. Should I get shemira or nemora from labyrinth? Thanks in advance..

[jolly wolf]

the answer is pretty much always shemira

[clear saddle]

@onyx cedar This would belong more in #classic-questions There is a guide in the pinned messages which will help you with the decision

[ripe garnet]

Stage 7-40

[pale kettle]

reset Nem, level an Elite plus and break level cap. @ripe garnet

[left jasper]

any advice guys?
i got stuck at 20-30

[pale kettle]

that's an interesting place to put Rowan

[left jasper]

yea brutus waste her potions

but my shem dies too fast even if she gets all the pots.

[spare girder]

Very bad comp to face with Shem infront because of Kaz and Ira I actually don't know. Maybe your best bet could be use Lucius instead of Brutus and then Nara or Athalia on enemy Arden and pray.

[pale kettle]

Just put shem behind brutus with duras call

[left jasper]

i see. i guess its a bit too much for her to tank overleveled wilders that counter her.

ill try backline setups as suggested.

[pale kettle]

also, Fawkes?

I use almost his exact comp

[left jasper]

he gets rid of arden surpirsingly

which i hate haha the most

[spare girder]

If Fawkes CCs Arden then Merc Warek or Lucius. Use something like Lucius, Brutus - Front Rosa, Rowan, Shem backline

[left jasper]

ok ill try. brb

thanks for the tips btw

[pale kettle]

Everyone underestimates my man fawkes

[spare girder]

Please help me too, I'm stuck AF

[pale kettle]

dem L's though

[lost hound]

Hey fellers, I’m on 6-35 atm. Is this the correct main 5? What faction should I use scrolls/choice cards on?

[pale kettle]

reset your lucius and tasi and level up your elite + heroes instead

so you can maximize crystal

[lost hound]

@pale kettle okay thanks. Is my current lineup correct though?

[pale kettle]

What 5 are you actually using

[austere nova]

legit getting my arse handed to me here. Arden roots 3 of my guys till they die and roots the last two till they die. i duno wtf to do here.

anyone who doesn't get rooted is charmed. ugh.... lost thia fight about 23x now.

15-40

er, 16-40

[spare girder]

Wow! I can't believe it your ascension should easily beat this stage maybe it's gears. Use Athalia and Lyca to replace Fawkes and Rosaline.
I think that's what I did, my Shem is Mythic, Lucius Legendary, Rowan L+, Athalia E and Lyca Mythic.

[austere nova]

it may be the level diffence too. they are 25 over most of my grp

[spare girder]

If it doesn't work observe, you might have to swap Lucius and Shem

[ripe garnet]

@pale kettleok thx

[spare girder]

@austere nova Nah, at this point my team was capped at 154 or so

[austere nova]

the enemy Arden always does top damage with his roots. its crazy how that isnt his Ulti.

[spare girder]

Did you try the comp I suggestedm

[austere nova]

trying now

i dont have athalia. she's a merc

[spare girder]

Oh

What about Nara? @austere nova

[austere nova]

i cant put anyone near their Arden. he roots 3 people in the first 3 seconds of the match and its gg after that

my Lucius is dying in two hits

if i could get fawks to make arden disappear, i may havr a chance

but he hasnt done that

[spare girder]

Nah Fawkes takes out the strongest person by default. You need Nara or Athalia or even your own Arden may work if Arden really disturbs your team

[austere nova]

i really wish i made a L+ arden. he's op

[spare girder]

You can try him at any ascension try swapping Rosa and Fawkes with Lyca and Arden. Sometimes Lyca's haste can make your Arden root before the enemy Arden.

[austere nova]

hmmm

yeahx nope. he gets one shot

[spare girder]

Oops

[austere nova]

this team is jusy crazy. arden shuts down 3 of my toons and they just poop on me.

[west depot]

22-32 help

[pale kettle]

Athalia, Brutus up front. Athalia for that ferael. Nemora, Lyca, Shemira backline. Put duras call on shemira @west depot

If that doesnt work then switch nemora with tasi

[stone geode]

Anybody have a lineup for 23-36? Hard af >.<

Nvm I beat it >_> literally tried hundreds of times before and ofc now I beat it when I ask

[plain verge]

What team should I make with my current people?

[idle oriole]

@plain verge #classic-questions

[plain verge]

oh wrong section?

[jolly wolf]

i think it might be ok here, though usually people ask for help passing a certain level here @plain verge

[plain verge]

Oh okay, sorry i figured this would be okay here cause i'm asking for a lineup

[west depot]

Best artifact for athalia eye or blade ?

[jolly wolf]

best to ask in #classic-questions @west depot but i'd probably use eye

[lost hound]

Hey fellers, what should my lineup be? What faction should I go for in terms of scrolls and choice cards?

Rn I’m using: Tasi Nemora Saveas Hogan Lucius

[jolly wolf]

when in doubt, wilder is always a good choice

[pale kettle]

I'm at 6-4

Anyone here to help

[pure inlet]

what's the stage? @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

6-4

Mauler enclave

@pure inlet

[surreal ether]

Been stuck for some days now any advice?

[lost hound]

@surreal ether believe in yourself

[lost hound]

Jk, you’re at 40 which is a big wall

[silver forum]

Please help i am stuck here for 3 days

[versed basalt]

Halp

[versed basalt]

can someone help me please ^

[shrewd haven]

@versed basalt u should pass it

[versed basalt]

what do you mean?

[pale kettle]

Lineup looks fine to pass it - otherwise try Nemora to charm Arden if she can on time, so Arden will root his team mates...How many attempts have you tried? Sometimes can take multiple attempts - Ur shem should kill them as shes ascended

[shrewd haven]

Anyone can help?

[versed basalt]

i've tried many times. they out dps me. ogi is too tanky and their nemora gets the heal off

Kaz kills my units too fast

[quaint warren]

Hello guys I really could use advices on this one

[versed basalt]

If i sub nemora for athalia, nemora cant get his charm off before dieing

[pale kettle]

Kaz kills lucius before Nemora can charm arden? So he insta dies? Tried Switching Lucius and Kaz to see if she can dodge the opposing Kaz in time for nemora to charm Arden > then he can root his team mates and buy time for Shemira ult

[versed basalt]

tried that. nemora takes too long to charm. arden already used root

arden roots 2s into the fight

[pale kettle]

What about using Lyca>Belinda for the haste for the start of the fight? As Shemira dmg should be enough at her level - you just want her to ult and melt everyone

[versed basalt]

her ult doesnt really melt everyone. with my current set up she can ult for like 2-3s before belinda and herself dies. belinda uses ult before she dies too.

[pale kettle]

Can Shemira sustain vs Kaz or Ogi at all if you place her front line? Or she just insta dies?

[versed basalt]

she'll die

ogi will toss her back, stunning the backline too

on some run, she could use ult for 1s before dieing lol

but its still nowhere near winning

even in the most successful run, where everyone gets to pull of their ult, even lucius and athalia, i still lost D:

[pale kettle]

Try Kaz > Lyca/Tasi in front (hoping Lyca either dodges Kaz for a few hits/Tasi Teleports) and then Either Lyca/Tasi back top (whichever you didn't place in front), Shem back middle, and Nemora at the bottom of backline .... I found that using Shemira/Tank/Wilder Trio pretty much solved 90% of problems right up til my current progression, and swapped in Arden now and then for Nemora

[versed basalt]

so instead of kaz & lucius i put lyca & Tasi ya?

[gleaming nacelle]

Tips?

[clear saddle]

@versed basalt use lyca tasi Arden backline, shemira against kaz and Lucius front. Make sure Arden is behind your shemira. Also, reset your Belinda and/or kaz and get your shemira to 200

[versed basalt]

then my resonating will be level 1 ._.

[clear saddle]

*call on tasi, blade on Shem if you have it. Eye if not. Drape on Lucius

Level them back to 160 of course.

[versed basalt]

alright. sounds legit. i'mma do it

[wicked helm]

Hi should i put Izold instead of hogan

And what should i use as main lineup now im using Belinda, hendrickson, hogan, rosa And rowan

[clear saddle]

you can take out gwyneth for rosa

and the rest is fine for now

[wicked helm]

Thanks

[gleaming nacelle]

Tuesday any tips to help me finish my stage

[clear saddle]

@gleaming nacelle Put your tasi in your resonating crystal (if you have space). Then take out your backline for lyca tasi/arden and nemora.

If your tasi banishes ferael, then use arden instead.

Also, move your shemira bottom against the niru, and place your nemora opposite the ferael. you want to charm him so he fears his own team.

[versed basalt]

daaaang

i still lose with the level 200 shemira

it's worse than before D:

[clear saddle]

Do you have blade yet?

[versed basalt]

nope

[clear saddle]

With 200 shemira you can most likely clear vipers' marsh and get that artifact. it's really good for shemira.

But other alternatives for your setup, you could try:

Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Lucius
Tasi

you need your arden to root before the enemy arden

[versed basalt]

my arden and lyca is epic.. dies instantly

[gleaming nacelle]

same getting my ass kicked lol thats ok tho :p

[versed basalt]

even with all my equips ._.

[clear saddle]

@versed basalt You've tried my original proposition right?

Lyca/Tasi
Lucius
Tasi/Lyca
Shemira
Arden?

[versed basalt]

yea

[versed basalt]

shemira dies to kaz

[clear saddle]

@versed basalt you need your arden to root her...

[neon crater]

Help pls, any tips?

[vast bobcat]

Any tips for 13-35?

[gleaming nacelle]

divine just keep retrying until you get lucky

[clear saddle]

@vast bobcat Firstly, stop making so many L heroes. Don't make them L unless you can make them straight to L+ or else you might waste fodder.

[versed basalt]

arden roots but tasi banish kaz lol

[gleaming nacelle]

just finished mine ty tues

[clear saddle]

@versed basalt Or try nemora instead of tasi at top back.

[vast bobcat]

Well i am basically making them so i can use them as fodder for Mythic

[clear saddle]

@vast bobcat You also don't want to use Ascended Tier heroes as fodder. If you didn't get your nara to L, you most likely would've had an M shemira by now already.

[vast bobcat]

damn...i suck at this

[clear saddle]

@neon crater Tips with?

@vast bobcat do you have Lyca anywhere?

[vast bobcat]

no only got an Elite at 1

can get Nemora to Mythic by using Arden L+

[clear saddle]

@vast bobcat That'll be fine. Her haste is very good. Put her in your crystal and then maybe try replace fawkes with her.

[versed basalt]

swapped tasi for nemora, got the perfect run where everyone ulted. but still lost.. Kaz almost died tho

[neon crater]

@clear saddle I mean is there better lineup?

[clear saddle]

@versed basalt It'll work then. try some more times.

[silver forum]

Any tips

[clear saddle]

@neon crater Lineups early on aren't that crucial, but you could try something like: Brutus Saveas Arden Lyca and maybe Khasos

[versed basalt]

i'll keep trying

[neon crater]

My friend told me to try Arden and Lyca too, but who should I swap them with?

[clear saddle]

@silver forum Post your whole hero list too, thanks

[vast bobcat]

added Lyca but she dies instantly.

[silver forum]

@clear saddle

[neon crater]

@clear saddle who should I swap Arden and Lyca with?

[clear saddle]

@silver forum Replace belinda with nemora and raine with tasi (if you have space in your resonating crystal). Then move your shemira bottom against vedan. you need to kill him as fast as possible

@neon crater Dude, i literally gave you a lineup. Please look closely.

[versed basalt]

wew, okay Tuesday have been handling too many request. everyone, give him a 5mins break LOL

[neon crater]

I mean Twins is not that usefull? I actually looked at the lineup u gave

[clear saddle]

@vast bobcat The optimal lineup would be Lyca and Tasi backline. see if that works

[vast bobcat]

will do thanks

[clear saddle]

Well actually, the most optimal one would be lyca tasi nemora/arden back, with shemira lucius/brutus frontline, but your shemira is a bit too weak for that, so 2 tanks might be necessary @vast bobcat

@neon crater Twins is ok, but you need 2 frontliners unless you use saveas frontline. If you looked at the lineup i gave you, then why do you need to ask who to swap those two with?

[neon crater]

I'm sorry if u're offended @clear saddle just asking

[silver forum]

@clear saddle bro this is mission impossible 😀

[pale kettle]

Been stuck on stage 22-40 for a while now... anyone has any tips? Also regarding the artifacts that should be equipped maybe

[clear lantern]

Have you tried tasi, brutus, nemora Lyca, shemira?

[pale kettle]

Yes, it didn’t work not even swapping the team somehow

[broken egret]

@pale kettle id probably go with arden over nem personally there. try something like:
arden
shem
tasi
brut
lyca
You wanna try to kill the lucius before he starts ulting. Id go for call on tasi here and blade shem

[pale kettle]

Gonna try! Thanks! 🤗

Ok I did it but with another formation in the end! Arden didn’t work for me >.< but managed to swap him and lyca with fawkes and lucius and idk if I was blessed or not, but I managed to banish the right enemies and I made it ❤️

[broken egret]

@pale kettle i mean all these lineups require quite some RNG and thus a number of tries. One of the comming stages is even worse, believe its 22-42 thats annoying

[pale kettle]

I think it’s 22-44 with that stupid athalia 😆 she’s giving me a lot of troubles

[broken egret]

@pale kettle so you already beat 22-42? If you still need a solution for 22-44 i think i have one somewhere

[rigid summit]

Floor 60 Brutal Citadel is rough

[broken egret]

@rigid summit ye its a horrible stage, most people beat it by just simply mercing a strong warek or khasos

[limpid quail]

@broken egret can you give me the solution for 22-42

[broken egret]

@limpid quail i can check if i have that one

[limpid quail]

for reference 22-42

[broken egret]

@limpid quail This one might work for you

[pale kettle]

@broken egret I already beat 22-44 too... difficult but I made it in the end 😆 now I think I’ll be stuck on 22-56 for a while. I hate wilder enemies teams 😆

I’ll be stuck here probably until I borrow some mercs 😆
In the meantime I managed to make rosaline M+

[broken egret]

@pale kettle if you have the layout i can try and help you figure it out if you want, with your levels you should be able to beat it anyway (yours are higher than mine)

@pale kettle i think you can do it with something like:
arden
shem
lyca
brut
nem

[pale kettle]

Gonna try ❤️ thanks dion!

[ornate totem]

Need some help!!

[broken egret]

@ornate totem best tip i got is make shem 240 instead of the 220 fawkes and it should be easy

[ornate totem]

How i dont have dust any other ideas!?

[limpid quail]

resetting fawkes will give you the ressources back, then you just need 10k dust more

[pale kettle]

Nope, still stuck... that enemy line is hell 😆

[humble sun]

Stuck on 15-39, do i have a chance?

[clear lantern]

Tried shemira lucius belinda rosaline rowan?

[limpid quail]

or get a mercenary nemora to charm ferael and use the meta with her in the middle

[humble sun]

Will try, ty

[clear lantern]

Dont thank me, it probs wont work xD

[humble sun]

Better than what ever i have going on now

[clear lantern]

Actually, put shemira bottom front row, estrilda charges your ult nicely

Assuming she survives 🤔

[humble sun]

Not working so far, The Farael still f’s me over

[limpid quail]

therefore the nemora suggestion 🙂

[clear lantern]

Try to find some cc for him then I guess

[limpid quail]

you should buy her from the shop once i think, can be very useful in some stages....especially with ferael on the enemy team

[humble sun]

Fultsch I’d rathet use mercs on 15-40, i won’t have a chance to beat it on my own for a long while but i have a lot of strong mercs from my guild

[clear lantern]

Or maybe you could go for tasi instead of rosaline, and hope she cc's him?

[humble sun]

Will do

Didn’t work yet. Should i make my Tasi L btw? I got a lot of wilder food

[clear lantern]

Tasi is great

[humble sun]

It seems I’ll have to let the mercs carry me on this one

[clear lantern]

Is the issue that shemira does before she can ult? Or that she ults but the enemy doesnt die?

[humble sun]

Sometimes she ults, but there’s never enough time to kill the enemy team.

[clear lantern]

Dies*

[humble sun]

The Farael ults at around the same time as my Shem and absolutely wipes out my team

Or whatever is left of it

[clear lantern]

Is all your best gear on shem?

[humble sun]

Yeah, the mythic gb stuff

[clear lantern]

Does she survive if you put her front row and give her horn? (Assuming you cant cc fer)

[humble sun]

Dura’s call?

[clear lantern]

Yeh

I normally give her blade, but sometimes call to push her ult sooner works

[humble sun]

She survived but not for long, ult did basically nothing

Oh wtf

I just beat it

Usually my team lost literally 5-0

Rowan and Shem survived

And the enemy Farael didn’t ult for some reason

[limpid quail]

@broken egret did work in the end, thanks a lot. now i have the athalia, lets see how that goes 😄

[humble sun]

This means i’ll unlock the stargazer in 36h

[glacial brook]

stuck on 23-24 suggestions please

[brisk heart]

What can I do here?

[clear lantern]

@humble sun congrats, the joy of rng

[humble sun]

It’s all thanks to you! and rng...

But mostly you!

[indigo jolt]

@glacial brook
Merc a M or above Thoran with call.

[glacial brook]

@indigo jolt yeah i borrowed a thoran but still struggling

[broken egret]

@glacial brook its still up to RNG with the thoran, you kinda need the enmies to group up and him to get a good retaliate and 1 shot them all pretty much

[glacial brook]

yeah the closest i got was just lyca being alive as the last one, i’ll try that lineup tho @indigo jolt

@indigo jolt how did you place your hero’s ?

[broken egret]

@glacial brook you can see in the screenshot, its already in the order the units are placed in

@glacial brook just click all the heroes in the same order as shown

[glacial brook]

oof okay ty

[noble temple]

I need help i like using mirael but everyone claims shemira is the best i haven't been able to kill as quickly or effectively as i did using mirael

[broken egret]

@noble temple shem doesnt get her amazing power untill level 161, thats when she really starts to shine

[noble temple]

Ffff

[broken egret]

so ye you want her at M, but you are already really close to that, you just need to make your vedan L+ and you can feed him to shem

[noble temple]

This is going to sound extremely stupid but how do i feed him to her

@broken egret actually dont answer that im slow i understand what you meant now

[sonic night]

Suggestions 18-36

[broken egret]

@sonic night id say try:
tasi
brut
shem
lyca
nem

or if shem can survive frontline vs ogi or brut
tasi
shem/brut
lyca
brut/shem
nem

just make sure the nem charms the enemy arden so he roots his own team
If that doesnt work try taking out the tasi and using the arden instead

[sonic night]

Tasi almost always banishes Arden so nem doesn’t have a chance to charm him

[tall forge]

Any tips to pass this?

[broken egret]

@tall forge i would try:
arden
brut
lyca
sav
tasi

or

arden
brut
tasi
lyca
sav

depending if sav can survive frontlien

[tall forge]

Sight I’ll try that

@broken egret tysm it worked

[paper wadi]

any ideas?

[pale kettle]

Take out Bel and put in either Arden or Tasi. and put Rowan back center ffs

Would Baden be a hero you want to build to ascended? I have him at leg+ with 1 copy.
And I already have ascended shem and close to ascended Nara

@pale kettle #classic-questions

[paper wadi]

@pale kettle sorry i don unterstand what i should do with rowan 😅

[pale kettle]

switch Rosa and Rowan. @paper wadi

[paper wadi]

ok i‘ll try

[glossy pagoda]

Any ideas, what might work? Enemies above level 180 are kinda brutal for me. Edit: Fereal is 180 and Lucius 153

[pale kettle]

why are your graphics like that?

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe az screen Recorder is not the best tool out there, dunno it worked fine for other games

[pale kettle]

i'm assuming you don't have iOS?

[glossy pagoda]

Yep

[pale kettle]

can't you just take a normal screenshot

[tame magnet]

Best lineup from these?

[pale kettle]

you should only level your 5 highest ascended heroes.

[worthy island]

Needhelp

[fading moth]

Arden at bottom replace rowan by nemora and put her top and maybe use lucius instead of estrilda

Or try with a LB / GB with fawkes / rowan / lucius / shemira / nara, just i don't know if your lucius will tank enought (nara works pretty well against brutus /skreg)

[exotic oar]

Help with this one please?! ):

[fading moth]

You should try using arden (at top) to make you gain some time for your saveas, and maybe use brutus too for the bonus if he can tank

[glossy pagoda]

@tame magnet You could try Lucius at around level 110, shemira as high as you can, above level 120. And 3 backrows in level 100/101, depending on your dust available. Best choice is probaply rayne belinda and the succubus(for faction teambonus) sadly u are a bit lacking in regards of support characters. Switch Shemira to Saveas, when he reaches Legendary.

[fading moth]

And i would put lyca at bottom to not let your nemora tank the khasos dammages

[pale kettle]

Saveas isn't a really good frontliner.

[fading moth]

He is when he can use his comp / count on nemora, you just have to adjust and be sure it works well. Hard to judge with just the screen and not the whole fight under our eyes

[glossy pagoda]

Saveas was great in front for me until end of chapter 15, but i had full mythigear for him and twins to bond him to lucius.

[exotic oar]

Arden always dies so fast he cant even stay alive fast enough..
But ill try brutus ,arden, saveas' nemora and tasi or?

[fading moth]

Yes @exotic oar and you maye use lyca at front to dodge / tank a little bit or tasi and hope for her to fly away, many options with wilders in fact

[exotic oar]

Yeah he can tank this whole chapter im on he has mythic and legendary and i can put brutus to tank with some mythic too see if thats helps

[pale kettle]

take out Saveas and use Bel, take out Numisu and put Mehira. either that or put Rosa on the crystal. @weary cobalt

[strong bramble]

Any help on 21-37?

[exotic oar]

@fading moth thank you👍 getting a lot closer

[fading moth]

Mp if you want to check again, hard to help with few words

[final star]

Hi help 23-10 pls

[weary cobalt]

any idea for good lineup? i can reset and make new lineup i dont mind to try new stuff, what should i build? i want to get the faction buff as well

[fading moth]

Well you don't have that much heroes avalaible, so for the moment you should just try to climb higher levels with a 1v5 heroe as saveas or your belinda (Put him/her 20 levels above the rest of your heroes if you can) and see later.

Try to get the highest team bonus if you do so as belinda it would mean playing rosaline / Mehira / Lucius / izold for exemple

[astral mantle]

This is what i have and i started chapter 4 so any ideas on who to use

[fading moth]

Same thing as i said just above. It's too early to decide for nom, you should get a heroe that can 1v5 (at your level saveas / brutus (if you drop him later on) / belinda are good to do so. Just put her/him at the highest level you can and try to build a decent team with supports / tank and get as much team bonus as you can

(if you go for belinda, use lucius + nemora / tasi / arden, that's a really good team)

[weary cobalt]

@fading moth no healer? lucius just an epic will he be ok for a stage 11-20? they are all mytic and strong af, and if so i put belinda rosa lucius izold mehira i have to take off nemora which healing me so much and i thin lucius will get 2 shots as just be an epic

[pale kettle]

Floor 38 on mauler tower any suggestions I can’t get passed I can ascend to@legendary if needed

[fading moth]

I mean, try using if it doesn't work use nemora, the point is just to have the main dps do the fight alone, i can't preddict how much he will tank or not ^^' i'm just a giving a hint on how you should try to reach higher levels

@pale kettle Why not use skreg instead of ankhira ? and maybe put saveas at bottom or in front bottom if he cant tank somehow

[pale kettle]

No still getting creamed

[fading moth]

Well there is not that much things to do except wait to have higher level or get to leg some heroes (i wouldn't recommend it if you're not sure to use them more)

[paper wadi]

i dont get it 😅

[fading moth]

Hm can't you use shemira lucius belinda rowan / fill (arden / rosalyne / saveas idk what may survive with silvina)

Or you could just use the 3 wilders (tasi / lyca / arden from top to bottom) + shemira / lucius

[paper wadi]

ok ty i'll try

[sharp hornet]

Lber tower 140 need help please

[astral mantle]

That kinda what i have i have the healer and as you see i also have lucius tasi and others

[fading cipher]

I also need help on LB 140

[fading moth]

Belinda / Fawkes / Rosaline / Lucius / Estrilda should work (i'm just refering to a guildmember who made it with that team) with rosaline on lucius

[astral mantle]

Don't have rose yet

[fading moth]

Mercenary or try with raine but i'm not sure on how it'll end

[still oar]

@sharp hornet

[astral mantle]

@fading moth

[sharp hornet]

@still oar still nothing close....

[pale kettle]

How tf do you beat this on the burning woods POT

It’s the last battle and as soon as athalia ults I’m screwed and then Lucius just keeps her alive with shields the whole time

[still oar]

Mostly relics. You can use combination of death's bite and constant CC from tasi with stones.
Or just simply have stones+bringers and cc them with tasi

Such as like this https://youtu.be/hY90_mijjr8

Oh generic poison will work too

[pale kettle]

Rip I might have to do it over again. The Ezizh and Silvina boss was much easier but this one is atrocious

I’m gonna have to try manually

[sand rune]

Lineup suggestions for Mauler Tower 140? I’ve already used a Mercenary on another level, so using another is unavailable. My Khasos is able to take out one of the Ulmus twins, but the rest of my squad crumbles after that.

@lofty depot Consider swapping Brutus’ and Lyca’s positions and bring in Khasos for Mehira.

[pale kettle]

I redid the whole POT, got poison and everything and used the exact same team from that video and athalia wiped my whole team before I could even pause it smh 🤦🏻‍♂️ @still oar

[light kite]

Who to resonate to do this shitty stage

[supple stratus]

i cleared that with 3* khasos merc

[light kite]

@supple stratus Ain't got one, who would you recommend to resonate though, vurk, skreg or the girl?

[supple stratus]

i dunno, none of them will do much, numisu or vurk. numisu for buff or vurk coz u'll have agi gear laying around

[light kite]

@supple stratus Was actually able to do it with vurk

[supple stratus]

nice 🙂

[fresh kelp]

22-42, been stuck for weeks and am now desperate

[still oar]

I did many tries @pale kettle. Really many without the correct relics. That team isn't optimal for the pot. On my alt I did easier, think with death's bite, sunstone and fire bringer. Kaz is really good against this kind of team. Start with everyone full energy and put kaz against athalia. She would ult on luc and attack athalia and poison both. After that it's just a matter of keeping your team alive atleast 1 till the Battle ends

[pale kettle]

I’m getting very close I think I can beat it with RNG

[still oar]

Good luck then lad 👍 👍

[pale kettle]

GOT IT wooooh

[still oar]

Try
Shem

Lyca
Tasi
A ezzih or brutus
Nemora

Maybe you can use athalia for the lower tank or luc @fresh kelp

Congraaaaaaaaaaaaats!!!

[pale kettle]

Finally

[carmine orbit]

hey all im stuck in kings tower any tips?

[pale kettle]

There is no way I could’ve beat it without Tasi

Who does more damage shemira or Belinda because you don’t need both

[carmine orbit]

bel higher lvl

[still oar]

Try
Nemora(Arden)

Lyca
Rowan
Luc
Belinda
Make sure you Charm nemora or brutus.
If Rowan won't do try rosa
@carmine orbit

[carmine orbit]

first try ty

[fresh kelp]

@still oar the problem is warek just flips the shemira and she dies instantly, i pretty much have to put brutus top tank so my team doesnt just die against warek and skregg

@still oar closest ive been to beat the stage was
Lyca

Brutus
Tasi
Eironn
Thane

[still oar]

It's rng bull
Shemira upper back line is the safest somehow

A sec let search for other comp

[fresh kelp]

@still oar but even then only 1 in 50 ends in a Thane v Skregg 1v1 which he cant win

[still oar]

Some variations

[fresh kelp]

@still oar gonna try those, thanks for your help so far!

[carmine orbit]

now to my campaign struggle any idea/tips on what relics to put on who and hero selection?

17-36 btw

[edgy flower]

Anyway past here or reaching my limit for LVL? 15-12

[tall forge]

Any tips here?

[sharp egret]

can ur sav tank their sav? thats how i ended up winning most sav vs sav matchups

[carmine orbit]

any tips still stuck; ie have been for a while now

[light kite]

@carmine orbit you have 2 carries which isn't great. Maybe try lyca nem and Arden yourself

[warm wigeon]

any ideas on how to beat this stage? their cc reks my team

[woven bronze]

hey guys, fairly new to the game. could someone dm me and help me out with a team set up, please n thanks

[pale kettle]

Get your nemora to charm Arden and if she doesn’t then restart @pale kettle

[sharp egret]

Suggestions?

[pale kettle]

Not working, dies before she does anything else. @pale kettle

[sturdy gust]

Do you Lyca @pale kettle ?

[pale kettle]

yeah.

No gear at all for her really though.

Not too many options, I was gonna say you could try lyca as well

[sturdy gust]

It's ok, use her just for the haste so Nem charms faster than Arden casts root and retry until she charms him.

[pale kettle]

Instead of who then? Rowan?

Please help!

@willow spruce have you tried rosaline to soak up athalia initial hit?

[sturdy gust]

@pale kettle Nemora in middle instead of Belinda and retry until she charms Fer.

[pale kettle]

Ok

Nem charming Arden doesn't help.

Ah changing around some positions helped.

Mhm

[willow spruce]

Getting one shotted

[pale kettle]

Have you tried using that merc Thoran rather than grezhul

Or Lucius, don’t really need ascended Lyca, your L+ one would do the same thing

[lime nova]

23-34 any suggestions?

[pale kettle]

What stage is that @willow spruce

[willow spruce]

Already beated and it is 23-24

[pale kettle]

You don’t really have any carries, just tanks or support @lime nova unless maybe you throw the Khasos in there?

@sharp egret you still need help?

[lime nova]

@pale kettle yeah normally this is my setup but that Athalia is causing issues

[pale kettle]

Sometimes I put my Rowan up front if I’m out of options because he can take a hit

[lime nova]

Yeah I'm trying something similar to that at the moment. It's working decently well, just need to rely on a little bit of RNG

[pale kettle]

And put rosa back mid, supposedly she should be able to take athalia’s initial hit, haven’t tried enough though mine is low ascension. I’d keep playing around with Rowan upfront

What artifact do you have on Rowan

[lime nova]

The issue with Rosaline in middle is since she follows Lucius then Athalia targets him. Normally I let Rowan tank Athalia but that Silvana targets Rowan as well so it wasn't working that well

[pale kettle]

Yeah man silvina and athalia is brutal, do you have Grace on Rowan

assassins are crazy.

[lime nova]

Slowly getting there. Manage to kill 2 of them this time. @pale kettle Yes they are 😭

[pale kettle]

Really need a Belinda or shemira or Ferael or something

campaign Athalia just makes me want to get her at M asap

[lime nova]

My M+ Ferael on my alt is currently in use by a friend sadly but if I don't beat the stage before then I'll try him out.

[pale kettle]

that's actually smart. making an alt with different ascended heroes just so you can lend them to your main account. i'd do that on an alt if i didn't hate x1 battle mode so much.

Yeah I’ve never thought of that. I have 2 alts that are like lvl 50 or below and it’s just so tedious doing everything again lol

[lime nova]

Yeah the x1 speed suck sooo much! I just finally got my alts to VIP 6 thanks to the VIP for completing chapters. It's so nice being able to quick battle ❤

[pale kettle]

The worst part has to be the bounty board. You cant auto complete the bounties and have to manually select all the heroes

x2 just feels like normal speed after you hit chapter 4.

ughhhh, those lil things are making me not want to work on my alt.

[lime nova]

My least favorite thing is redoing the POT's. Especially Solar Plane

[pale kettle]

hah. I still have the very last reward in The Savage Wastes to go. Chalice of Vitality. Solar Plane doesn't seem too bad, but then again i'm only 37% through SP.

[scenic frost]

LB floor 90 help please

[lime nova]

Heres my friends comp for that fight @scenic frost

[pale kettle]

Except sub Rowan for the Hendrik maybe

[sharp egret]

@pale kettle yes, thanks. my problem is lack of damage (belinda or sav dont do enough) although my tanks can survive for a bit. I might be able to replace Ulmus with someone because he doesnt take much damage compared to Luc who tanks like a god

[pale kettle]

What about Thoran?

[sharp egret]

For me?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[sharp egret]

Only a few times with him, main problem is damage

like with constant retry spam my team will get a few ults off (Luc can get twice) but I just dont kill anything

[pale kettle]

Well if Belinda isn’t doing enough then try shemira and Thoran instead of Ulmus

get your Shem to 161+. unfortunately you've wasted some fodder on unnecessary Legendaries so that might take longer than expected.

instead of Arden, try Rosa for support. she's really amazing with Shem or Bel.

Does Arden root anyone or die instantly

[sharp egret]

I'm planning to run Belinda instead of Shem, but I can try her for this one. Tbh I've never used Shem to clear a level since like stage 2

[pale kettle]

Rosa and Belinda synergize well

Shem gets OP at 161.

[sharp egret]

Arden gets 1-2 roots. Actually he ults with good rng lol

[pale kettle]

What about Tasi does she die quick

[sharp egret]

I am locked at 160 btw

you've wasted some fodder on unnecessary Legendaries
you mean thoran?

[pale kettle]

you're only supposed to invest your resources into five heroes, one from each faction and the fifth one whichever you have the most fodder for.

I think you should try Rosa and Belinda

[sturdy gust]

@scenic frost Maybe overlevel Bel? : o

[sharp egret]

Ros/Bel isn't enough damage unfortunately

[glossy pagoda]

Hey guys, any ideas how i could do this? Enemys above level 180 are kinda brutal for me...

[pale kettle]

If Lucius can ult twice then Belinda should be staying alive and ulting but you said not enough damage

[sharp egret]

Yeah, with near perfect RNG one time she got 3 ults off into groups of enemies and didn't kill

[pale kettle]

Whattt

doesnt make sense. Rosa and Bel have good synergy, i don't know why Bel isn't dealing damage to anyone. are you sure you have the best gear on her?

[sharp egret]

Im trying shem rn, but I can try again with Bel and record

She does 400-800k damage

[sturdy gust]

How far away from M Shem are you

[lime nova]

@pale kettle welp now I know it's possible. Now i just need to pray to RNGesus

[pale kettle]

Woot woot

[sharp egret]

If I used all the faction scrolls I have on GB I might be able to get it @sturdy gust

I was planning to just go LB though

[pale kettle]

All LBs is pretty p2w

[sturdy gust]

Ok, then I don't know, my shem went from L+ to M+ and that was the biggest powerspike I'd ever gotten I think this game in terms of how noticable it was. LB seemed too luck dep. for me (still haven't seen Rosa :/)

[twilit ocean]

@glossy pagoda maybe try replacing Nara with nemora and putting her at the bottom to charm saveas?

[sharp egret]

I have enough for M+ Lucius and I'm one Belinda away from M+ (lacking fodder obviously since I made so many L+)

[pale kettle]

I just got a big spike for my shemira from 220 to 234, almost 240

[sturdy gust]

Isn't your Belinda L+ already? You don't need more? 😮

[twilit ocean]

Any help with this 21-9 all the guides has the kaz as a second tasi,

[sturdy gust]

@pale kettle Yea hopefully I get there soon, mine is still 220 with rest of team 180 :<

[pale kettle]

That Kaz will 100% wreck that shemira lol

[sharp egret]

I have a Belinda in my bench, so one more Belinda and I'd be able to make M+

[pale kettle]

Use Brutus and put shemira behind Brutus @twilit ocean

[sharp egret]

The game also has given me 6 Kaz, so I was curious if I could use her to kill stuff my LB comp couldnt

[pale kettle]

Or atleast switch her to ulmus side instead of kaz lol

[sturdy gust]

You can already get her to M+ with just fodder Larkin

[pale kettle]

Yeah you just need fodder thats all and 3 more belindas for ascended @sharp egret

[sharp egret]

I have 15 faction scrolls so idk if I should put them all in LB or GB for Shem

[lost hound]

Who should I use as main 5? What faction should I use scrolls in? I want to get Lucius E+

[sturdy gust]

How does your Wilder heros look like @sharp egret ?

[twilit ocean]

@pale kettle the brutus Shem Combo doesn’t work, this only works sort of because of Arden rooting kaz and tasi otherwise Shem gets rooted by ulmus then stunned by tasi

[pale kettle]

put Tasi on crystal @lost hound

[sharp egret]

@sturdy gust

[pale kettle]

Take out either Lyca or Tasi and try Fawkes @twilit ocean

[sturdy gust]

Wow that's great Larkin. I personally would go for Shem.

[sharp egret]

lol 10 seconds left

greens :^)

I'll go for M Shem, thanks for the help @sturdy gust

[twilit ocean]

@pale kettle then I lose faction bonus and die quicker haha I think I’m pushing for my level anyway might just need to level up more

[sturdy gust]

My alt got to 16 with E+ wilders and E+ brut and M shem so should be easy for you !

[sharp egret]

I'm now a meta slave 😦

[sturdy gust]

hahaha I was orig. going LB and even got ascended Gwen at Chap 14 by luck but it got too hard so I switched to Shem :ppp

[sharp egret]

Rip, 150 shem doesn't do much damage.

[sturdy gust]

yea you need atleast 161 unfourt.

[sharp egret]

She is a better tank than ulmus though lol

[glossy pagoda]

Sadly even with charmed Saveas, is Ferael a bit to squishie against brutus roar. tried my own Brutus with Ferael at the back, but sadly no avail. But iam literally an r+ centaur or an elite saveas away from M Brutus (M+ as soon as Saveas becomes useless) should i use him as carry then, instead of Ferael?

[woven bronze]

good team set up suggestions? I'm currently stuck on 6-12 lolz

[high loom]

Hard stuck again I have gems to reset everything what's my setup? My front lines being melted when both of them have 70k.plus hp

[glossy pagoda]

Looks like it will be hard to progress, befor u can build leg saveas and bring him to 140.

[high loom]

What's leg saveas

[glossy pagoda]

Legendary Saveas

[high loom]

Yeah I'm couple of hereos away from l

[glossy pagoda]

Luckily u are not to far from him

[high loom]

): I guess my progress just stops for now.

NVM a lot of heroes away lol

1 horse 3 duplicate rares and 3 duplicate rares lol

[pale kettle]

1 horse lol

[glossy pagoda]

Well u can place the horse in the wishlist and try ur luck with faction rolls from the event

[subtle breach]

What's a good hero or heroes to counter Warek?

[pale kettle]

the horse? bruh what? Golus? Safiya?

I think they meant Estrilda lol I just thought it was funny

[next raven]

This stage is a pain in the ass 22-32

[pale kettle]

@next raven

[glossy pagoda]

It was golus, forgot his name, so i went along.

[next raven]

Imma try that thanks @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Bel contributes nothing to that comp though lol.

[next raven]

lol my nara and fawkes aren't ascended high enough

[ember bane]

Need line up to defeat for sigil mauler +GB only

[pale kettle]

@next raven you can use alternatives for them

[next raven]

@pale kettle Yea I got it down to just Niru a couple times but ultimately fail lol

beat it @pale kettle

used the same comp and got crazy rng luck lol

[pale kettle]

well, you have to thank my fellow guildie lol. @next raven

[umbral wraith]

So I massively screwed up in the Lab and allowed one level 1 Athalia to time out my team after only taking like 1% damage each time/dodging, and also not picking up many mercernaries.
Can anyone recommend the best course of action from here (even if it's give up lol)? Happy to reset heroes with gems to raise new heroes from the current available pool and/or use tears to try and win this stage (assuming the rewards are worth the hassle)

[ember bane]

@umbral wraith there is 45hrs remaining so you can wait till CD and appoint other hero again

[umbral wraith]

which CD are you referring to? the 45 hours i.e. give up on this round, or is there another cooldown in the Lab?

(sorry I assume CD meant cooldown, but may have misunderstood)

[ember bane]

@umbral wraith appoint new hero as Arden or Vedan and try again

and use tears after all die as it's no use saving them

You keep getting new tears and you keep getting stronger

@umbral wraith and for you it's good to select useful heroes from 4 free heroes

[frosty axle]

Help plz, floor 80 mauler towers

[umbral wraith]

@ember bane sorry I'm probably being really slow but I'm not fully understanding your suggestion. From my understanding, you suggest sending Arden or Vedan on their own and letting them die OOOH, my bad. I just reopened the tear tooltip, and previously thought I could pick one of those heroes to get revived not all. Awesome, thank you!

[ember bane]

@frosty axle same combo give heavy gear and items to your mauler and try getting Ascended star Brutus or Khasos

[warped peak]

What should other heroes should i use with the wilder trio?

[cerulean hamlet]

Saveas + Lucius for now should owrk

@clever patio You need an actual damage source, Eironn merc or something might work

[clever patio]

K thanks

[sharp hornet]

Need help gb tower 140

[clear chasm]

This is kicking my butt, can’t even take one of them down.

[lost hound]

What faction should I go for? Is this correct main 5 lineup? Which faction should I use scrolls in?

[clear chasm]

@lost hound Sav should be your main dmg, him and Lucius up front with Nem, Arden and Tasi back

[lost hound]

@clear chasm can Sav even tank that? 👀

[clear chasm]

Can when overleveled

Reset hogan, pretty sure you don’t need him if you have Lucius.

Im no expert, so hopefully someone else can confirm. But getting Sav to L+ should be your main priority.

[lost hound]

Kk thx. Should I go for Wilder or LB?

[clear chasm]

Wilder trio as above go backline

[spiral plaza]

Sav at L+ and capped will be your main damage carry until chapter 13-14. Make that a priority

As for the others, Wilder trio (Tasi, Nemora, Lyca) will carry you WELL into the late 20s and even into endgame with the right frontline

[clear chasm]

Ha so me being on 13-14 (an above) am stuck?

[spiral plaza]

Not necessarily, with a few more levels into Lucius and the rest you should be fine. I noticed your Shem is L+, she’ll replace Sav as soon as she hits 161 (Mythic)

[clear chasm]

Yep, need a couple more fodder then I can unleash her

[spiral plaza]

Luckily once that happens you won’t have to worry about a carry until like, 23

[clear chasm]

I tried her at 160 but wasn’t very effective

Once I hit 141 I should be good, just patience needed

[spiral plaza]

She can backline somewhat well pre-161 but for the most part she’s useless until Mythic haha

[lost hound]

Should I ascend Lucius to L yet?

[ember bane]

Need line-up for 23-34 ty @clear saddle

[scenic frost]

GB88 please

[novel adder]

@clear chasm try something like
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Saveas.
Those mage aoes probably disrupt the wilders too much

@sharp hornet
Shem
Thoran
Nara
Grez
Ferael.
Then its a matter of gear/levels and rng..

@scenic frost your best bet probably
Baden
Grezhul
Ferael
Shem
Nara

@ember bane not sure what options you have.. but i'd run estrilda over brutus.. also its assuming nemora tanks the silvina. As with all athalia stages.. rng like mad

[pale kettle]

Smh how tf do you beat these boss enemies in contorted realms like 4x your power. Got all the mini chests and beat everyone else but all the big chests are all protected by lvl 310 plus heroes

[ember bane]

@novel adder 23-34

[novel adder]

@pale kettle you need to roll for some very powerful relics if you plan to do it at lower levels.. fire/ice for instance. Personally i'd wait til overleveled to clear with less heartache.

@ember bane grats 🙂

[plain verge]

I'm 100% stuck I cant even get slightly close to beating this stage... I'm stuck at 6-24, this is what I'm going against and these are my current people. Which team should I make in order to beat this stage?

[tall forge]

Can’t beat 11-36... any tips?

[pale kettle]

@novel adder Yeah I could only get them half health and then whole team gets wiped. Luckily I’ll have my 5th A after this next lab run so everyone will be going to 240

[plain verge]

@pale kettle Mind helping me up above, i could use some pro player wisdom lol This game still confuses me a bit with teams and comps and such, what team should make in order to beat the stage i'm currently stuck on?

[pale kettle]

Try this
Nemora
Grezhul
Shemira
Hogan
Arden
@plain verge

[plain verge]

@pale kettle Closest one yet, but still nope sadly, it's that stupid spinny lion.....

[pale kettle]

Is my lineup wrong? Cant seem to beat them even with my relics. Contorted realm is so hard even with 240 shem and 220 crystal

Omg EXACTLY I just ended it because I couldn’t beat any of those big ones

I managed to clear 2 of them. With only shem surviving lol. Had to try multiple time per boss

I could only get them down to like half health and got wiped out with shemira at 235

I think maybe 240 crystal is really needed..
Funny thing is people were saying 240 shem and 220 crystal with fire and ice is enough lol

I agree I think it is needed. It’s such a huge power difference

Abysmal delves is similar too with much higher bosses

[cinder crag]

Doable or do I need Merc / higher crystal

[pale kettle]

I need advice on what I should do with what I have, I'm very new

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle This belongs more in #classic-questions There's also a guide in the pinned messages there which will be able to help you, take a read if you'd like 🙂

[short schooner]

I'm having trouble with laby/tower and I figure I might be underleveled but I'm sure my lineup isn't very good either

should I replace mirael with Belinda and is kaz okay where she is, also should I replace ira

[clear saddle]

@short schooner Mirael and Belinda both accomplish the same role, with high AoE nukes so either is fine. The main thing you have to do is overlevel your main source of damage, and not rosa since she's a support.

[short schooner]

i have no idea who my main source of damage is tbh

I overleveled rosa since she was always the last one alive

[clear saddle]

Mirael would be your main source of damage then. Her + Rosa is a good combination since Mirael has a good ult and rosa fills her energy very quickly.

[short schooner]

thanks, what about ira and kaz do I keep them there or replace them

[clear saddle]

ideally you need another frontline. Hogan or Grez probably.

[short schooner]

thanks

[frosty quail]

Need help for 22-60 my team gets melted before they use any ults Thanks

[paper wadi]

need help with 17-28

[clear saddle]

@paper wadi who does tasi banish

[paper wadi]

@clear saddle fareal

[clear saddle]

take out tasi for nemora, and move her centre so that she charms the enemy ferael

[paper wadi]

maybe with enough tries it will work

[idle oriole]

So stuck

[clear saddle]

@idle oriole If you put tasi instead of nemora, does she die instantly?

[idle oriole]

@clear saddle yes

[clear saddle]

@idle oriole Is it possible to have your arden targeted by silvina instead? maybe swap equipment around?

[idle oriole]

@clear saddle I'll try it out

[clear saddle]

good luck

[idle oriole]

Ty 👌

Tasi only got her ult once and that was when everyone was already dead lol

[sharp flame]

16-12 any ideas?

[dim token]

21-60. Help please if possible

[errant minnow]

Advice pls?

Silvina Snipes my backline + ferael ccs everyone and doesn't let shemira charge ult

If I manage to ult with shemira then niru schytes her to low hp and I can't recover

[north pelican]

Stuck on 23-58 plz help

[night gorge]

This should work theoretically, no?

[dry timber]

Hey guys, got stuck here for a few days, any ideas are appreciated

[delicate hazel]

What formation should I use? Or need to ascend my hero to clear it?

[night gorge]

Id swap lucius and estrilda

Estrilda is not a tank, then just run a few times for good rng

@delicate hazel

[delicate hazel]

So the team is alright?

[night gorge]

Depending on how important sav is you can also try swapping him for belinda to get the faction bonus

Usually sav is only really worth it if hes overleveled.

So id try lucius shemira front belinda estrilda arden back. Or if that doesnt work at all try lyca nemora arden back

[delicate hazel]

Alright gonna try that combination.
Thanks 😁

OMG it works finally!

[night gorge]

Glad to hear it 😄 which setup worked for you?

[paper wadi]

need help with 17-36

[glossy pagoda]

I think belinda should be replaced, sadly u dont have the options, i'd try first it seems (Fawkes, Nara, Twins). Maybe Tasi or Arden

[agile root]

You need haste against numisu he’s the mauler version of lyca so to say

[night gorge]

Have you tried the standard wilder backline?

[paper wadi]

@night gorge yes i tried many different lineups but i dot get this level

[night gorge]

Try tasi lyca nemora backline

Shem top lucius/ brutus bot

[glossy pagoda]

Did Lucius ever ult? Otherwise Thoran might be more useful here.

Or brutus ye

[night gorge]

You need some good rng with charm but it can work well, otherwise what yeti said does lucius pull his weight as tank? At that level he can be very squishy

[paper wadi]

@night gorge no way with that lineup

@glossy pagoda no lucius doesn't ult so mostly i tried brutus

[dark current]

Stuck on that dumb stage.... I need help

[night gorge]

@paper wadi the difference between utter annihilation and a win can be a lucky charm

[paper wadi]

yes i know

but the backline is in 2 sec down ^^

[night gorge]

Hmm but aside from numisu totem nobody should attack the backline, no?

[paper wadi]

yes but thats enough and also when he get stunned is the backline instand dead when he attacks

[agile root]

Use Nara on numisu

That or athalia

You need instant cc and haste

[paper wadi]

hmm when i put athalia in the middle my backline also dies instand

[night gorge]

Slightly different comp i could see would be tasi lyca arden and just gamble on the roots. Youll want your ardeb to root numisu and enemy arden before they use skills

Pretty sure wilders are the answer here thoughp

[paper wadi]

yes i also think that the wilders will beat this level but i think i need maaaaany tries 😄

[night gorge]

As is the wilders way

Beat stages way above your paygrade after 100+ tries 😄

[paper wadi]

khesos is the problem of my backline he throw his weapon to my backline and kills 2 wilders

[glossy pagoda]

I did a similar stage recently with thoran, carry (In my case ferael), nemora aimed at arden, arden in the middle to dodge nemora and lyca opposite of arden. Took also a 100tries tho

[night gorge]

But he shouldnt throw when hes facing a front

[paper wadi]

but he does 😂

[night gorge]

Also he should be the target for tasi banish, no?

[glossy pagoda]

He needs to be rooted be either arden i think

[paper wadi]

yes

[glossy pagoda]

With lyca arden should be fast enough

[night gorge]

Maybe give your best boots to tasi to up her haste so she banishes before he throws

[paper wadi]

ok i try

[light kite]

@paper wadi Use Lyca, Tasi, Arden, Shemira and probably lucius imo. Maybe brutus. And then just retry until the rng is in your favor

[paper wadi]

@light kite shem up oder down?

[light kite]

frontline bottom, unless she's taking too much dmg, then place her in backline and get tasi or lyca in front

@paper wadi Is it working somewhat well at least, or does that lineup get rekt?

[night gorge]

Shem works both top and bot, it all really depends on Arden and tasi

[light kite]

@night gorge at top she might get charmed by nem

better luc get charmed since he doesn't do anything

[paper wadi]

@light kite it works a little bit sometimes but shem is the only one who charges to ult

[light kite]

@paper wadi Does your backline survive khasos throw?

[paper wadi]

yes when tasi stun him

[light kite]

But tasi won't get her sleep off it seems?

[paper wadi]

1 time she got is and it was really close

but only 1 time at about 20-30 tries

[light kite]

maybe enough retrying will work. You can try without lyca if arden still gets his roots off before enemy arden

[night gorge]

Imo you need tasi banish khasos arden roots arden and numisu as base. If that works you can win by redoing it until you get lucky. What are your artifacts?

Do you have artifacts at that level?

[light kite]

^basically yeah He should have every artifact besides conviction at that lvl i think

[night gorge]

Give tasi the call if you have and shem the sword

[light kite]

put calling on tasi, eye on shem. Drape on lucius, or brutus if you're using him

[night gorge]

Ah no sword yet i see then eye yes! But defo call on tasi

[light kite]

tasi should be getting her sleep off more reliably. Hopefully before more of your heroes die

Keep eye on shem in general, until you get blade imo

[paper wadi]

ok i try now

it workes much better than before but now is nem a problem at the end because she heals brutus and he kills my shem in his "unbreakable"-mode

so with enough tries it should work

[night gorge]

Good luck then 🙂

[paper wadi]

ty

[light kite]

@paper wadi You might want to switch Shemira to top then, try lucius either backline top or frontline bottom. And then you have to retry till nem doesn't charm shem. Because it looks like you might need to pop last gasp early (brutus staying alive bullshit)

[paper wadi]

ok

[light kite]

Lucius backline top will probably just die when Brutus ults actually, so probably not

[paper wadi]

@light kite maybe i should wait 2-3 days then i got 1 tasi and i can ascend tasi to M+ and the level should be a little bit easier

[light kite]

Yeah. That stage is difficult at your current power

They're almost double your power

[paper wadi]

yes i rushed with shem in the last week 3 chapters

[light kite]

But yeah, keeping the eye on Shem and call on tasi will ingeneral help you a lot

[paper wadi]

ok thank you 🙂

[light kite]

@paper wadi correction, until you get blade, then blade is best on shemira

[untold gyro]

22 44 & 22 60 tips? Damn girl instant wipe every ult

[light kite]

@tame magnet I like your name, what are you asking though?

@idle oriole I wouldn't use Arden on any silvina stage, he just dies. Does tasi survive, and how does Shem do on the bottom

@untold gyro I generally don't like giving advice on stages higher than I am, but maybe nemora to charm the saveas. That's usually what I do. The athalia makes shit tricky though.

[untold gyro]

@light kite i didnt have trouble surviving top lane, but the athalia is the 1 man show bs xD, jump-> insta kill 1 of my unit. Then proceed to ult insta kill everyone

[night gorge]

Maybe lyca to dodge ath? @untold gyro

[balmy iron]

What can be a good general team? (Actually at chapt 8)

[light kite]

I Don't know how to counter her @untold gyro Get her to jump on rosa? rosa should survive the first jump right?

[untold gyro]

Also, somehow. Athalia is the stage boss. But fawkes always coffin brutus/enemy fawkes

[light kite]

@untold gyro its because athalia disappears at round start for a second or 2 I believe

@balmy iron You're focusing on 3 carries, don't. Overlvl the Saveas, run Twins, Saveas, Arden, Lucius and maybe Silvina or Brutus for now imo.

[untold gyro]

@balmy iron sadly my agi units are low ascension. Cant dodge much, i tried using thoran / kaz to feed into her, but the overall team becomes too weak, in the end she will ult and gg anyway

Eh i mean @night gorge

[light kite]

@untold gyro Rosa can't dodge it with her sweep if you make it so ath targets her?

[balmy iron]

@light kite becouse right now im running Hendrik + lucius and shemira Belinda lissandra

[night gorge]

Afaik rosa cannot dodge ath automatically at the start of the match

[light kite]

Damn

[untold gyro]

I tried that too, but after she dodge, since she is untargetable, athalia proceed to kick my shemira offside, and proceed to kill the rest of the backline and gg again

[light kite]

@balmy iron I mean, that's my suggestion either way, follow it or don't

[night gorge]

Kaz can, vut he tried that and it didnt seem to work

[untold gyro]

She can @night gorge , but athalia kick my shemira instead, cos the rosaline doing the untargetable brooming thing, then the backline wiped

[balmy iron]

@light kite for Twins u mean elija and layah?

[light kite]

Exactly

[night gorge]

Id gamble on lyca, whats your lyca at? @untold gyro

[light kite]

@balmy iron Eventually you'll want to replace twins once you get lyca, tasi or nemora, same with silvina

[night gorge]

Try running arden lyca tasi for a few tries in the back and see if you make progress

[untold gyro]

E+ ): fodder is a pain in the ... @night gorge , i had enough coppies of lyca, rowan, lucius, fawkes to ascended. Its just fodder is a thing ):

[night gorge]

Ah yeah i hear you.. wilder fodder is the bane of most players i believe

[light kite]

Wilders just have too many good heroes

[night gorge]

Try it anyway, give her the dodge artifact and run it a few times

[untold gyro]

Ah well. I guess this is my first hard stopgate, probably few months before progressing. Since dust is also a pain in the a..

[light kite]

@untold gyro When stuck, mercs are always an option

[night gorge]

Oh yeah merc lyca i didnt even think about it

[untold gyro]

Yea ill try tomorrow with merc lyca, but its pick your poison situation. With merc lyca my own lucius is not strong enough xD

[night gorge]

Theres always brutus

[untold gyro]

Its a weird interaction in the ai system, if my shem bot luc top, then my fawkes will coffin enemy fawkes, if its the other way round, then my fawkes will coffin brutus instead.

And i have to coffin fawkes, cos if not my shemira will be in the coffin. Thats insta gg

[night gorge]

I love my lucius but sometimes you need brutus instead.
With wilders backline youll have arden instead of fawkes and can root enemy fawkes

So try:
Arden
brutus
Merc lyca
Shem
Tasi

[untold gyro]

I tried wilder trio+brutus too, but my tasi will banish brutus then enemy fawkes coffin my shem thats ng

[night gorge]

Youll need your arden to root fawkes

Gotta run it a few times to get good rng

[ornate totem]

how??

[light kite]

@ornate totem Difficult stage, maybe your own nemora to charm his arden or nemora

[ornate totem]

silvina oneshot her cos i have onle ep+

[light kite]

@ornate totem Out of curiosity, does the eironn do anything?

[ornate totem]

no

[light kite]

seems difficult with your current setup man. Maybe you need a merc to be able to do it

[ornate totem]

he can some times sosc some ememies but its not halping

[untold gyro]

I remember the layout abit, i think that stage fawkes coffin arden isnt it? @ornate totem

[ornate totem]

and it not arden who is the problem its silvina

[light kite]

@untold gyro Silvina will kill arden before he does anything I think

[night gorge]

His own fawkes he means i believe

[untold gyro]

Nono i mean, our fawkes will coffin enemy arden*

[light kite]

oh

[night gorge]

Sometimes you have to sacrifice someone to silvina and make sure she afterwards doesnt attack a priority target

[untold gyro]

If so then, if i remember correctly

Fwk
Shem
Rowan (to feed silvina)
Rosaline
Lucius

I think i used this comp, though the key is to make silvina jump rowan not rosalien

[ornate totem]

will try

[untold gyro]

I think rowan is best to sacrifice to silvinas, since he has immune on first hit, and even if he does dropdead, he still leave behind potions, so its not completely wasted

[night gorge]

Now someone help me with my predicament

[light kite]

2 khasos mercs, wat

[night gorge]

Dont wanna wait sometimes so i might apply to 2 khasos and use the first one i get

[light kite]

@night gorge Brutus instead of lucius if lucius is dying, otherwise I have no good suggestions

[night gorge]

Lucius never dies, hes a champ. Il trying ath instead of nemora atm to shut up enemy tasi

In general my lyca can occupy enemy ath depending on dodge rng, but my shem kicks in too late because of enemy tasi

[ornate totem]

no not halping

@untold gyro no not halping

[copper mica]

This level suckssssss any ideas?

[pale kettle]

use Tasi and Nem for CC

[shrewd haven]

Any idea?

[pale kettle]

Nem
Brutus
Rowan
Shem
Lyca

@shrewd haven

Any ideas guys? I stuck with campaing

Blade on Shem, Grace on Brutus, Drape on Lyca, Eye on either Nem or Rowan, depending on whomever has the higher crit rating and haste, and Call on the other. @shrewd haven

@pale kettle you're really early on in the game. just keep leveling your top five heroes and messing around with the game.

Ok, thanks @pale kettle

[stone geode]

23-44 help needed :[

[pale kettle]

@stone geode

[stone geode]

Ty

[remote otter]

Any ideas? Tried lb team as well nothing

[pale kettle]

i hope you know not to make any more legendaries lmao

take out Lyca and put in Rowan.

[lethal ember]

???

[pale kettle]

what stage?

[lethal ember]

21-6

[marsh magnet]

Stuck here for over 1 week, getting frustrated, please help! I can get a mercenary to help.

[pale kettle]

you don't have a carry

[marsh magnet]

Khasos

[coral pier]

Yeah Khasos has good dmg with sig

Put more levels on your khasos

[marsh magnet]

Okay, maybe that's all it is then

[coral pier]

You might just want to take him to 220 straight up

[dark current]

I need help on wilder tower 128

[coral pier]

arden might be able to replace lyca if he doesnt die instantly

[remote otter]

Close to beating the chapter lol and having big trouble with ferael on this chapter beat him all day yesterday slept woke up don't remember what formation I used 😂

[night gorge]

I always put nemora opposed to ferael

Charming him works best imo

[vast bobcat]

Suggestions?

[remote otter]

@night gorge nemora isn't charming him and I have horn on her nothing

[night gorge]

Nemoras charm is somewhat random but prioritizing the ones opposite to her. So it might take a few tries to get her to charm ferael

Any input here, anyone?
I can keep ath occupied for a while with lyca, but my own shem ults so late that i lose before she can ult again

[pale kettle]

what chapter?

[spiral plaza]

That’s 23 I believe

[pale kettle]

23-24

[spiral plaza]

But to answer your question I think I used my Thoran (A- 240) to soak Athalia’s charge

[opal ingot]

Was wondering if I should make Hendrick Legendary by Trading Rayne for Rosaline.

[spiral plaza]

And then lucked out with ult/SI and he one shot the entire comp

[pale kettle]

Hendrik's already legendary? @opal ingot

[spiral plaza]

L+ actually by the looks of things

[opal ingot]

Mhm. Meant mythic

[spiral plaza]

Anyways you should stop making heroes L if you can’t make them L+ immediately. As for your question, IDEALLY you don’t want to use ascended-tier heroes as fodder

[pale kettle]

well never use ascended tier heroes as fodder. they are friends, not food.

[spiral plaza]

There’s a little bit of gray area with shop heroes since they’ll always be there, but really you don’t want to resort to that and just wait for the fodder

[opal ingot]

Well, she is not that usefull, but okay, thanks for the advice

[pale kettle]

thats a lot of wasted fodder going into unnecessary legendaries. you could've used fodder getting those to L for your main five. you'd probably be at M+ heroes by now

[night gorge]

Uff no thoran for me. But lyca is doing alright vs ath. But eventually ath ults and then its over

[opal ingot]

First time I wanted to do that tho. That's why I was asking

[remote otter]

So nemora isn't getting any charms off

[spiral plaza]

Yeah unless Lyca dodge tanks her initial assault it’s GG

Just borrow a Thoran if you can once reset hits, Athalia won’t gain energy on his rez

[night gorge]

So no small adjustments i can make to optimize?
Aight got a 5* thoran in my friendlist, hope i can get him

[pale kettle]

message the person and ask if he can reserve the Thoran for you.

[spiral plaza]

I believe my comp for that was Shem/Lucius/Rowan/Shem/Thoran in 1-5 respectively

[remote otter]

Nvm put Arden in and won

[spiral plaza]

**4 was Mehira sorry

But if you’re lacking Mehira (mine is only E+ so don’t worry about ascension) you can probably get away with having Lyca in her spot

[night gorge]

Got mehira e

[spiral plaza]

Then you should be golden

[night gorge]

Aight, just gotta wait for reset 😄

Thanks for the thoran tip

[spiral plaza]

No problem!

[vast bobcat]

Any help on 14-37?

Posted it a bit above

[night gorge]

Tried wilders backline yet?

[vast bobcat]

Yeah, they die quite fast....

[pale kettle]

@vast bobcat can you send your roster and the enemy team again?

[spiral plaza]

Lyca/Arden/Tasi backline might work

[vast bobcat]

Hate that Vedan and his bats ulti, destroys everything

[spiral plaza]

And then Brutus/Shem front

[night gorge]

^

[spiral plaza]

Oof wait Arden isn’t 141 so he can’t 3 root

[pale kettle]

shem doesn't get OP until she's 161+.

youve also made a lot of unnecessary legendaries.

[spiral plaza]

You aren’t wrong BUT it doesn’t look like he has Saveas

So Shem is his best bet atm. Tbh once he gets Arden to 141 that should be enough CC to help her frontline

[pale kettle]

Help with 22-17

@pale kettle

I’ll try it

Got it

[remote otter]

Last one for today lol

[vast bobcat]

Tried but no luck... Yeah i know about the legendaries.. Didnt know better. So much fodder wasted. But anw, now i need silvina copies to get her to L+ and feed her to Shem so she can help more

[dim topaz]

made it to chapter 26, using Shemira,Rowan,Rosaline, Lucius and Fawkes. Was wondering what DPS carry i should use instead of Shemira now anyone have any suggestions

[warm ginkgo]

Any assistance would be appreciated

[pale kettle]

what chap and stage? @warm ginkgo @quiet falcon

[warm ginkgo]

Peaks of time contorted realm. No chapter

[pale kettle]

You’ve gotta have some good relics

[coral pier]

I think I used Shemira-Lucius-Rosaline-Rowan-Belinda

Shemira+Rosaline combo is very useful there so you dont get baited by the totems

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle he doesn't have relics atm period

[quiet falcon]

22-26 @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Wait whattt

[warm ginkgo]

I do. They are inactive without heroes deployed

[pale kettle]

ah

Oh okay that makes sense lol

@quiet falcon i gotchu, lemme check my guild Discord

@quiet falcon

Help with 22-22 now lol

@pale kettle

[night gorge]

In general if youre having trouble, try a few wilder backline variations first

99% of stages can be beat with a wilder backline

[pale kettle]

I’ve noticed lol, not having ton of trouble just like the help of experienced peeps

[errant minnow]

Am I fucked

[pale kettle]

Wait @errant minnow you’ve passed me up it looks like, what stage?

[errant minnow]

22-44

[pale kettle]

Wow you’ve really been pushing

[errant minnow]

Yea some said I could push ch23 with shemira 240

[coral solar]

Hi

[errant minnow]

But this stage is just ridiculous

[coral solar]

Ofc