yep if u get down to just niru, u r close
#lineup-help
silent wraith
still oar
Blade on Shem?
rain oriole
worthy island
22-36
silent wraith
@worthy island try that lineup, tasi needs call
pale kettle
can you show your whole roster?
warm wigeon
would 13-39 be possible with my current heroes? tried with fawkes, wilder back line but nothing works
pale kettle
instead of Belinda, try Tasi.
high loom
I have so many heros and have 0 clue
pale kettle
for what?
twin hare
GB tower 70. Can I clear this? I have space on the crystal for 1 more hero.
warm wigeon
@pale kettle my heroes just get melted
high loom
Best line up
pale kettle
@warm wigeon how long have you been stuck?
warm wigeon
a couple of hours 😂
pale kettle
@high loom at your stage in the game, lineup doesn't matter as much as just leveling up your heroes
@warm wigeon haha, well sometimes just going afk and leveling up heroes help. in the meantime i would keep trying different formations. when you find a lineup that gets you closer than before, level up those heroes in that lineup
warm wigeon
yeah i guess that's the way, shemira is the only one who survives their initial burst but when they all focus her after she dies as well
high loom
Dps*
pale kettle
level your Saveas a lot
still oar
Try
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Luc
Arden.
Or do you have lyca @warm wigeon?
pale kettle
it doesn't look like she does
warm wigeon
@still oar no lyca
still oar
Charm estrilda.
Ah I expected you still have lyca box
pale kettle
high loom
I guess early game saveas is much better then fareal?
warm wigeon
@still oar that lineup worked! thank u
pale kettle
219 bro
high loom
Should I drop Thane for a support character cause he feels super underwhelming rn
pale kettle
Thane isn't good until he gets to Mythic.
so, someone can help me please im stuck af
haven't gotten to 219 yet, I just messaged my guild though @pale kettle
thx
pale kettle
@pale kettle @pale kettle "yep. Wilders help. Use manual combat and HOLD your Supers untill you can pull a huge burst chain. You won't win through sustain or cc and you can't out damage their sustain anyway. All you can hope to do is just to knock off one or two per cycle of pure burst damage" is what my guild mate said
obsidian plaza
solid yacht
I’d use a Shemira, Brutus, Tasi, Lyca/Nemora, and Arden
twin hare
18-36. Is this just rng? Got blade on shem, drape on brut, call on tasi, grace on lyca and eye on arden. Best i can manage is brutus +1 left alive but then shemira can't tank them.
torpid wedge
pale kettle
@obsidian plaza Im stuck here too
modest lintel
Need some help with 23-10
willow eagle
@twin hare Id swap out arden for nemora but yes that will be mainly RNG due to enemy ankhira/nemora/arden
twin hare
yeah i managed to get it with another ~20 tries
silent wraith
@obsidian plaza try that
silver forum
Help please
pale kettle
@silver forum try
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Hogan
Rosaline
silent wraith
@modest lintel need some good rng with this lineup
strong bramble
21-20 ;-;
silent wraith
@strong bramble what I used but lyca in mid, you are a bit under leveled
strong bramble
@silent wraith I know I’m trying to get another Lyca copy so I can ascend them to L+
silent wraith
I wud delevel brutus and get everybody level 200 first
modest lintel
@silent wraith was close with this. Enemy brutus was last and unfortunately got my shem and tasi.. lol
silent wraith
no rush, im 243 all and still struggle in ch23
deep magnet
15-36, anyone have a solution?
pale kettle
you need to level your heroes more.
sonic night
Any ideas? I’m getting wrecked pretty bad 18-16
willow eagle
@sonic night this works: Lyca(1) brutus(2) tasi (3) shemira (4) nemora(5) you also may need some levels to produce higher possibility otherwise this will be one RNG based fight to win at a low percentage.
half sorrel
willow eagle
@deep magnet lucius(1) thane(2) nemora(3) belinda(4) shemira(5) if this isnt producing any results after 20 or so tries you mag need to try something along the lines of tasi/nemora/Luca and brutus/shemira
@half sorrel try lucius(1) brutus(2) belinda(3) shemira(4) nara(5)
half sorrel
Lucius gets killed in like 2 seconds.
willow eagle
Swap lucius and brutus then @half sorrel
sonic night
@willow eagle Ty! It worked but had to swap Athalia for Nemora. Took about 5 tries
willow eagle
@sonic night awesome!. Glad to hear it (;
sonic night
Arden kept rooting me so Athalia took care of that while I was lucky for Tasi to get her ult off
half sorrel
willow eagle
@half sorrel swap shemira and nara, see if we can stop that isabella faster
half sorrel
I think I may have to just wait and get some better ascentions
ashen schooner
Thank
paper wadi
need some help with 15-40 pls
regal pulsar
pale kettle
@paper wadi i'm pretty sure a meta varient helped me
regal pulsar
Helloo?
pale kettle
yo chill, i need a screenshot of the enemy team too lol
paper wadi
@pale kettle what do you mean?
pale kettle
the meta is Lyca/Nem/Tasi/Shem/Lucius or Brutus. in your case it would be Lucius, Shem, and Arden/Lyca/Tasi
regal pulsar
Okay
pale kettle
@regal pulsar you need to work on your Wilders
pale kettle
i mean yeah but you're missing Tasi and Lyca.
pale kettle
upbeat moat
Hey guys please go to #classic-questions
This chat should be limited to advice for specific stages, thanks
harsh frost
Help please!!!!!
upbeat moat
@harsh frost post your hero list please
harsh frost
upbeat moat
@harsh frost can try:
front: brutus, shemira
back: tasi, nemora, lyca
try to get nemora to charm the vurk
harsh frost
Ok will try that
spiral glacier
Low level I know, but who should I be focusing on here? I know shemira, but who else?
harsh frost
@upbeat moat didnt work
paper wadi
@spiral glacier look at #classic-questions at the pinned messages there is a nice guide for low-mid level
need pls help i tried so many things but nothing worked 😅
keen oyster
Need help clearing the last stage so i can get those diamonds and scrolls
warped peak
I can't get passed this for because of the Estrilda... it's too op even when controlled half the time
brisk heart
Could use some help
pale kettle
more CC
silver forum
Anyone experienced with LB?
low lodge
Need help with stage 3-20 please
silver forum
faint mountain
Thoughts?
tall aspen
uncut star
Ive been stuck on 9-4 for over a week and im getting nothing that helps me for the fight so im just totally stuck.
I dont have good wilder heroes, been using shemira, rosaline, lucius, brutus, and belinda
i also have 45k lab coins and can get any of the options other than shemira
ive tried other strategies but pretty much the only thing working for me since i started playing was protecting shemira and having rosaline buff her. shemira deals like 80% of my damage
odd python
@faint mountain i used
kelthur
grez
shem
thoran
isabella
try replacing kelthur with nara and see how it goes, you want a run where baden doesnt spawn a phantom behind isabella to kill her and angelo doesnt kill her off the start so she can suck up some of the silences from the shems
river gazelle
Any ideas?
odd python
@river gazelle
rough summit
Stuck on 10-32 need help
river gazelle
I don’t know what it is but they just heal faster than I can do damage to them so idk what to do
upper path
Pls give PvP lineup
odd python
try a merc ferael and hope he interrupts them enough maybe replace kelthur or thoran @river gazelle
haughty tide
Help on 21- 60
sudden sparrow
@sand rune 2 different comps
onyx sinew
Any suggestions for mauler faction 33-40?
remote otter
Please I know I need to level up but once I beat this faction stage I'll get mythic gear
I get so close with the 2 mages in back left sometimes one
pale kettle
@glad cypress there are a lot of things wrong here. you've made so many unnecessary legendaries. you also need to just level your five heroes with the highest ascension level. you need to level Saveas because he's good early in the game. your roster is missing some decent CC, specifically the Wilder trio.
@rough summit what's your usual comp?
proven rock
cedar ember
glad cypress
@pale kettle so I guess bet would be to reset? Currently stacking diamonds to get more heroes
pale kettle
what stage are you on?
rigid dragon
Any ideas?been hard stuck for forever!
pale kettle
what floor?
rigid dragon
251
pale kettle
hold on, my guildie has a screenie
rigid dragon
k
pale kettle
the lowest it goes back to is 253 but i just asked him about 251
rigid dragon
ok thx
pale kettle
Anyone have any suggestions?
robust forum
What’s a good lineup for Wrizz/Soren? Just barely getting past the 45 mark on Wrizz
pale kettle
Switch out Athalia with Rosa
robust forum
Oh, really? Okay, thanks!
opal ledge
Best wrizz and soren teams?
pale kettle
@opal ledge I would do Shemira Lucian Rosa Baden Sav for now
quick epoch
how can I beat Mauler tower? none of my friends have any heros to borrow besides brutus
pale kettle
what floor is this?
glad cypress
@pale kettle 12-24
cedar ember
Mauler Floor 120
pale kettle
Level 16-32 and I cannot get passed it with that shemira can someone help
idle oriole
@pale kettle send full hero roster
pale kettle
shrewd haven
Any chances?
weak path
idle oriole
@pale kettle u could try like
Lyca
-Brutus
Tasi
-Shem
Athalia
If it doesn't work then swap the front line heroes or something
pale kettle
I
cedar ember
@weak path Didn't beat it yet
idle oriole
Hard stuck for some days now.. Seems impossible no matter what I do ;(
novel adder
@idle oriole might be a level thing but i'd suggest you run
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
So you would be rolling for a very specific rng here.. the main problem in this stage is that there are no good positions for shem.. bottom side she gets shredded by kaz and slowed by ogi.. top side she gets bled by ira.. also khasos axe and ogi disrupts arden.. so try the formation and rng for arden to root both khasos and ira.. if your arden is not rooting before the khasos axe, you need to use better mage boots on arden.. or worst case scenario run call on arden.. but that isn't ideal since call is better off on shem or tasi.
idle oriole
@novel adder ok awesome thx for detailed in sight I'll give it a shot
novel adder
@shrewd haven kinda tough at crystal 180 honestly because it requires a great deal of rng.. i believe i won with
vurk/saveas
Warek
khasos
Brut
safiya.
180 crystal and absolute best gear.. and a mad amount of rng.. you need to burst thane.. and then hope you beat out the lucius before time out.. you might want to manual cast ults to be right when lucius shields are down.. i'd recommend renting a merc if you want to beat this urgently.. and overpowered khasos with sig or warek might do well
shrewd haven
@novel adder nope no chances maybe. Hehehe think just wait an eon later
novel adder
@shrewd haven yeah tbh this particular stage i'd recommend you save your heartache and wait til you are overpowered to beat it.. hahaha.. took me a bazillion tries for it.. but mercs can help you if you are in a hurry..
clear saddle
@shrewd haven if you're going to merc someone, I think warek would be the best for this particular stage. His sustained damage is what will most likely allow you to win
proper grove
shrewd haven
Okaay tks @clear saddle and @novel adder
tall stump
How do i beat floor 60?
covert osprey
place fawkes on top
tall forge
What about this stage? I can’t beat it :/
forest dew
any specific line up I should be running with what I got ? or just wing it
lofty depot
@forest dew depends on the stage
forest dew
just got to chapter 4 lol. I guess I'll just wing it
lofty depot
Get Saveas as your main DPS until you can get Shem to level 161. Use Hogan as tank along with Lucius (if you can get him) and get some Wilder supports (Tasi/Nemora/Lyca/Arden) and you'll be good to go. Mehira along with Tasi and Shem is also a bad-ass combo but you need Shemira at 161 first. @forest dew
forest dew
@lofty depot should I cart brutus for now and dump it all on saveas
lofty depot
Is your Saveas E or higher? @forest dew
forest dew
just got him to e
sharp egret
9-20 Help
lofty depot
@forest dew Go to #545919777907015684
@sharp egret don't use more than one DPS. Shemira isn't good until level 161. Saveas is the best choice.
I'd remove him from crystal and level him manually.
Saveas (or Belinda if you don't push Saveas)
Lucius
Rowan
Lyca
Arden
silver forum
@lofty depot mate i am stuck again 😛
lofty depot
Show me your heroes and the stage
silver forum
lofty depot
Use Saveas instead of Belinda and use Arden instead of Raine @silver forum
lofty depot
Doesn't matter, ascend him when you can @silver forum
silver forum
so now i to reset belinda damn..
sharp egret
@lofty depot I got destroyed with this formation worse than my previous with Shemira 😭
sharp egret
silver forum
calm pulsar
was unlucky with the draws, still want to rush up to 9-20+ with elite+ only. Am I using the best combination of what i have? sometimes switching silvina to tasi. (shown 9-8) thanks!
tulip yacht
I'm on 20-12 and all towers are 60+. Can I use L+ Arden I kept all this time to Ascend Nemora to M+, or is he still useful? Whenever I use it he is basically oneshottes
median vault
Tounament, any suggestions to change? I have si0+ thane spare
@olive thorn or anyone pls?
jovial yacht
Who can I combine to push chapter 15?
lofty depot
@jovial yacht What is stage 15? Show me the stage. Also it looks like you're going for LB team but I might suggest that you start focus on Shemira, she can carry you to chapter 24 and you don't need to rely on RNG as you do with Belinda.
Edit: Sorry I read it wrong. Show me your current stage
lofty depot
Yeah I read it wrong. There isn't really a single team that will make you progress. You have to choose a lineup for one stage specifically deepening on the opponents etc etc.
Show me the stage in-game so I can see your lineup
jovial yacht
I don't have a specific one, I kept moving them all around but nothing works. Shemira just insta kills my team
Maybe I have to keep leveling them
lofty depot
Try using Nemora to charm Shem, Arden is very good too but you don't have him but when you get him you should keep him.
Try
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca/Rosaline
@jovial yacht
As I said though I still recommend you to buy Shemira from lab until she is A. She is very very good and will guarantee you an A hero
jovial yacht
I am planning to start buying her yes. Sadly I've never pulled her from the tavern
lofty depot
I'm blind, you have him but not in crystal (Arden that is)
alpine rock
light kite
oak lance
lofty depot
@alpine rock
Lyca
Shem (or Brutus)
Rowan
Brutus (or Shem)
Nemora
pale kettle
12-8 what should i use
light kite
Which hero should I crystal.to do this stage?
odd python
get a merc warek
coral ledge
I think merc numisu helped me with this one (don’t think the heroes from your roster could help you at their asc level)
pale kettle
also, is the faction buff worth going for?
light kite
@odd python @coral ledge Vurk isn't great for that? @pale kettle no
coral ledge
Not at E+ I think.
odd python
not sure since i didnt beat it with vurk but i dont see how vurk could help since there is 0 chance at crystal 180 that he can outdps 4 lucius
coral ledge
Heard safiya can be good too but numisu did the trick for me. Had a M warek by myself
Was stuck there for a while btw 😅
odd python
i guess the merc part depends on whats already in your roster but yeah a good warek or khasos probably does the job for this stage
light kite
i'll go for warek merc, already have ok khasos then
odd python
put khasos in the middle and hopefully he can put damage on thane
candid stirrup
This is what I'm working with cant beat it for the life of my any advice would be grate
candid stirrup
Nvm I got it
tall forge
How should I beat this stage... I’ve tried a lot and can’t win
real siren
?????????????? .......
fading cipher
Warek
clear saddle
maybe get a mercenary warek @red furnace
red furnace
Ty
crimson kraken
Impossible at this level? Mauler tower 60
clear saddle
@crimson kraken merc warek would probably be the best option. His consistent damage might get you the win.
@tall stump you don't have much AoE damage there. Might need to merc a belinda or gwyneth since you don't have a suitable one yourself...
pale kettle
Tips for beating this?
brisk heart
Help me 😞
lofty depot
@pale kettle show me your heroes
pale kettle
it's ok i passed it, thank you for the effort 😉
amber hearth
Wow too many legendary
lofty depot
@brisk heart
Saveas
Lucius
Rosa
Lyca
Tasi/Nemora
Try that
lofty depot
You shouldn't ascend to L @brisk heart
brisk heart
They just melt me
I know. I did most of that a while ago. This was my first acc and I just upgraded anything and everything at first
pale kettle
@brisk heart run the battle 1x
brisk heart
wanton aspen
Which lineup should i use?
still oar
Put your resources in shemira first before you put in other. After she get to 80 61 lyca @wanton aspen. 60 Arden, silvina ogi.
At your level you just need to overlevel a carry
wanton aspen
all my exp should go to shemira until she is 80?
still oar
Yes. It's when she hits level gap cap. When everyone else needs to be 60 at least for her to be 81
wanton aspen
k, ty
faint mason
Could u help me with this stage?
cerulean hamlet
@faint mason
Arden
- Saveas
Lyca - Lucius/Shemira
Tasi
pale kettle
send enemy team and your hero roster
pale kettle
stop making so many unnecessary Legendaries
instead of Fawkes, put Nem and try to charm Arden so he roots his own team.
ruby plank
Gotcha! I know, my bad, i did make a lot of leg and now i'm experiencing a lack of fodder heheheheh
silver forum
Any tips cant kill him at all like i do 0 dmg
silver forum
All maxed
paper wadi
pls help me with 15-40
i tried it many time with different lineups with the 5* shem but i have no chance to beat this level
pale kettle
put Nem in the middle so she can try to charm Ferael
paper wadi
@pale kettle also no chance no one from the enemys dies (fareal was charmed)
pale kettle
Arden maybe?
ruby plank
BTW, i got that level with your tip =]
pale kettle
whose?
ruby plank
17-6 with Nemora!
pale kettle
ah, okay. well glad i could help
ruby plank
Thanks
paper wadi
@pale kettle also with arden i have no chance i‘ve never killed only one of the enemys
sand rune
Mauler 135. Any advice? Thanks!
still oar
@sand rune
high loom
I get shit on even though the numbers are close
I have some empty space in my thingas well
The resonating Crystal and I can reset something as well
woeful blaze
What are my best formations here? And who should I stop building
errant minnow
Any help for maulers floor 80? Sadly I don't have any ascended Mauler so I can't overlevel anyone
@woeful blaze keep going with those you have there, up until lv160
Then see which ascended heroes you get the most and build those
still oar
Can you borrow khasos with +10 signature at least @errant minnow?
errant minnow
A good team there could be shemira vedan Arden nemora saveas
Uhm i think so
Just applied, but he's only mythic
still oar
Rng it with his axe. Put him Frontline with brutus
Hold on still have friend slot, I can check my alt?
errant minnow
Sure I'll free a slot
still oar
Sorry already borrowed 😅
But even m should still able to rng it.
errant minnow
:( but thank you I will try
sand rune
@still oar thank you, Will try!
heady wave
is there anything I can try beside waiting for levels? stuck here for a week+ already
errant minnow
Brutus shemira Frontline, Arden nemora lyca backline
Shemira bottom and give her dura's call
heady wave
im getting wiped
errant minnow
What happens? Shemira dies before ulting?
heady wave
yeah she is like halfway
heady wave
ira and estrilda
heady wave
yeah I did that and shemira is consistenly ulting now, I will fiddle around with duras etc
errant minnow
If Arden dies before rooting then he's useless
heady wave
nah he roots
errant minnow
Okok might just be up to rng then now
Other things I can think of is using athalia to stun ira instead of using nemora
heady wave
ok I beat this stage finally
errant minnow
Nice
heady wave
thank you very much i was using the 3 wilders combo but for some reason I didnt think about brutus for tanking
errant minnow
Brutus is the best when one side of the opponent does too much damage
heady wave
lately I was using shemira + 4 LB combo but brutus is going to be leg+ after I beat 4 more levels so I might switch
errant minnow
Some teams work better than others depending on the opponents team don't just stick to one for every stage
heady wave
yeah sure but 4LB + shemira is my starter team, obviously Im trying to switch if things arent working out 😄
errant minnow
For example look at my two main teams
Some stages one team can win and the other can't and vice versa
heady wave
thanks, I will keep that in mind and save these teamcomps 😄
errant minnow
;)
weary cobalt
who is good against vedan? i cant beat the stage..hes mytic level 124
im using this team atm
nemora backline
pale kettle
put Nem in Lyca's spot so there's a chance she charms Arden and Arden roots his own team
weary cobalt
and saveas frontline?
pale kettle
maybe Lucius
weary cobalt
will he be good even as just elite? not even elite+ even with my items he have pretty bad stats unlike my other tanks
pale kettle
well i would put Saveas as frontline and see how it goes
weary cobalt
its not working that well, vedan just change to bats and kill everyone and get full hp
any other idea?
heady wave
I really liked arden+saveas combo vs vedan because saveas was 3-hitting vedan after arden rooted him
ember bane
Need line-up for 23-30 ty
pale kettle
@ember bane my guildie might have a screenshot, hold on
warped peak
Can someone help make a good pvp team with what I have? I know I have some of cc heroes but what would be the best combo?
delicate trout
@warped peak
arden
lucius
tasi
serius
saveas
that's it for now
warped peak
Ok thank you
idle oak
new to the game, can someone tell me which lu is the best i can do now?
pale kettle
ascend your heroes first and collect your diamonds in the portraits tab
idle oak
i see
pale kettle
what stage are you on?
timid willow
4
pale kettle
any comp would be fine for now. Saveas is really broken early game though.
timid willow
@pale kettle seveas?
pale kettle
the goat looking Mauler
oak lance
anyone help?
sharp flame
15-32, any ideas or just level up?
cerulean hamlet
Tasi
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Arden
It looks mostly fine, just need some RNG to get the correct roots and so @sharp flame
shell hamlet
soren ? this setup is super hit or miss, i either get like 40m or like 15m and was wondering if i could change it to something more reliable or just keep running this
@cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
Nothing really stands out that you can change, maybe twins over Rowan but Soren is just innately random.
copper moon
@oak lance
brisk heart
Anyone know what the best “main” lineup might be for me? I usually just throw stuff in randomly until I win
pale kettle
seeing those legendaries hurt
Need help on 16-39 please I really want to beat it
ok well uh stop making so many unnecessary legendaries. you're wasting so much fodder. and send a screenshot of the enemy team.
why do you have two Belindas on the crystal?
Idk
woeful blaze
I need help beating this, can someone help? Tyyy
pale kettle
what's your usual team and what issues are you encountering?
woeful blaze
My usual team is shemira and Brutus up front, nemora, Lyca, and kaz
Everyone but shemira and nemora just get shredded
pale kettle
well level your heroes more.
woeful blaze
Kk
pale kettle
instead of Kaz try Arden.
Brutus is underwhelming when he's underleveled, so try Lucius instead
oak marsh
help for 20-52 plss
pale kettle
hire a strong Khasos, Vurk, or Warek. specifically one with +20 SI
brisk heart
Still stuck here if anyone else has any ideas
pale kettle
what chapter and stage?
brisk heart
13-22
pale kettle
well first off. stop making so many unnecessary legendaries. instead of Nara i'd do Lyca.
brisk heart
Well, after 3 attempts with Lyca instead of Nara it worked somehow, even though Lyca died almost instantly every time
Shemira and Rosaline clutched it lol
pale kettle
Lyca is a support. her survival isn't as significant.
brisk heart
Shame I just got Saveas to L+ and he's already about to be useless it feels
pale kettle
well he can be fodder for another Mauler hero.
supple condor
been stucc here a while, no idea whatll work
pale kettle
what chapter?
supple condor
chap 21-51
pale kettle
from a guildie.
tawny plinth
Which team should I focus on?
pale kettle
you could probably use Nem
tawny plinth
what should be my pve lineup?
pale kettle
Lucius, Brutus, Saveas, Arden, Belinda for now at your stage probably
You won’t regret investing in Lucius for sure
tall seal
fossil crown
ember bane
Any1 have line up for 23-30 ty
little sparrow
cerulean hamlet
Do you have any brutus?
little sparrow
cerulean hamlet
Ah, hm
cerulean hamlet
You could use an Arden in your crystal but:
Belinda
- Rigby
Tasi - Saveas
Fawkes
Maybe? I'm not sure if you have any unit who can survive a couple sav hits though so maybe a dodge hero might be better to try evade his attacks until his HP drops a bit
little sparrow
i could use the kaz but after her immunity she dead
I've been using rigby for the sav hits, sometimes the tasi if she could survive long enough to teleport
cerulean hamlet
How does the comp posted work though? But yeah, surviving the initial Sav damage seems like the main problem
stray pine
Lightbearer 179
pale kettle
Anyone help pease help please
switch out Bel and Saveas for Tasi and Lyca/Nem
if you have Nem, put her across from Arden so there's a chance he's charmed and roots his own team. also, stop making so many unnecessary legendaries, it's a waste of fodder.
Okay would a epic nemora with crystal work and what is fodder
upbeat moat
@pale kettle fodder is a hero of legendary tier (the ones with 3 skills). Please read the guides in the pins
pale kettle
Ok
Hey any other suggestions?
if Nem doesn't work try Lyca
So close but it’s just failing thanks for the help though );
I need the best line up
why is Hogan in the back
Were should he be
?
left otter
pale kettle
yes. that would be ideal. the general rule is to put strength heroes in the front, but this isn't always the case.
Oh
I'm here
strange, you shouldn't be stuck in the earlier stages.
Is it because of levels
bro retire your commons lol. there's no point in holding onto them.
How don't judge
also, why do you have your E Bel leveled instead of E+ bel
Send help
check the guides
little sparrow
You have the rickety cart at this stage @pale kettle
pale kettle
Anymore advice it’s impossible
I retired them
might just be worth chilling for a bit
Ugh ok
brisk heart
So no ideas for a main lineup then lol
untold rivet
Faction tower help please?
untold rivet
I would first suggest that your E+ get leveled to 120 and then place your E into the crystal. They will jump to level 120 if the E+ are leveled. Yes it will cost a few diamonds to reset the levels of the E heroes, but it will increase your top end levels
warped peak
ok
inner kiln
advice? stuck at 7-28
pale kettle
Who are you using now
pale kettle
Is that line worth it?
Yeah that doesnt seem bad. I mean grezhul usually isnt the best tank for early game but not a bad team. Are you getting close to beating the stage at all? @inner kiln
inner kiln
doesn’t look like it :(( im sort of getting one shot by the ogi
what would be a better tank in your opinion? i have seirus and skreg
pale kettle
screenshot your stage so I can get a visual
and well I dont have enough experience with either of those I use brutus and lucius but Skreg did just get buffed and is supposedly pretty good now
me?
Wait a sec
no I mean @inner kiln but you can too lol
inner kiln
pale kettle
have you tried switching shemira and grezhul so shemira doesnt get knocked by the Ogi?
rocky aspen
levels will get u past that stage, or a saveas can tank ogi easily. looks like u can ascend saveas to at least elite
pale kettle
^^
inner kiln
i have yup, grezh just dies super quick, and does saveas frontline?
pale kettle
Rip
rocky aspen
saveas can frontline, i used him to frontline when i used him. then replaced him with mythic shemira at 161 who can also frontline
pale kettle
maybe see if throwing in skreg will make a difference. This game is heavy on RNG so literally just repeating the stage over and over can eventually get you the win
rocky aspen
idk what u mean by line weeb but u should stop ascending too legendary tier, waste of fodder, you wont be able to break mythic lines
inner kiln
alright i’ll try those! btw what would you say are my leveling priorities?
rocky aspen
leveling priorities are whoever you have the highest ascension levels on
inner kiln
i see thamks :>
pale kettle
👍
Send help
Try Fawkes in back row
since he takes highest power hero out for a few seconds
@pale kettle
tall forge
Can’t beat this, any tips?
tall forge
Melted too fast, my damage isn’t enough as that angelo’s heals are annoying
pale kettle
Maybe nemora? Put ferael in back mid and put fawkes where ferael is @pale kettle
tall forge
Should I put him against golus or the other dude?
pale kettle
lets see
Shemira, Brutus for Front and saveas, lyca, arden for back. Try it @tall forge
It was really close but I won, ty🙏
Sweet, no prob
unkempt parcel
help (everyone has ult)
pale kettle
Lucius, Hogan in front. Saveas, Lyca, Arden in back. Try it
wise merlin
@spare crypt Try this one out!
Fawkes
Thane
Mirael
Lucius
Belinda
pale kettle
^^
spare crypt
Thanks you very much I win easy
pale kettle
Lucius, Shemira, Saveas, Belinda, Fawkes
delicate kiln
@pale kettle tried that already. Was a busy. Not enough unfortunately
pale kettle
Ooh yeah Lucius is only elite, didnt notice
Maybe try Ulmus or Thoran instead of lucius since hes only elite
delicate kiln
@pale kettle almost.. had to swap sav for fawkes though sav just kept dropping and the 2-3 bonus has me pretty close now with thoran
delicate kiln
I know. And he is. Just not against this setup. If I put him in the ank cocoons shem and then vaden and either sav or isabella tag team him
pale kettle
yeah makes sense
delicate kiln
Yea like I said this is an alt so I know my ropes. Any other suggestions? Fawkes shem and thoran are the best so far so
Actually I just got so close I think rngesus might work for me with this setup
pale kettle
Yes, you have a lot of legendaries. You shouldnt ascend a hero to legendary unless you can automatically ascend it to legendary+ too so you dont waste fodder
and yes RNG is a big part of this game
I've probably done a few stages over 100 times before I cleared it. Just pure luck
delicate kiln
Anyone else got a suggestion?
limber slate
@delicate kiln make sure shamira has your best int gear
Adren
Shamira
Fawkes
Estrilda
Lucius
Something like that should work just fine
delicate kiln
I’ll give it a shot. But yea shem has the best gear on
limber slate
If shamira gets web just call it a reset
And if lucius and estrilda die to fast to let shamira ulti and win bring her to the bottom
delicate kiln
Yea no dice. Had to put grace on shem just to keep her alive
Swapped ardwn for tasi and got it thanks for the suggestions though
barren badge
Advice for this fight?
pale kettle
Put lucius up front and rowan in back middle
also your crystal heroes could be 120 if you made one of your elite+ heroes on your main 5. Your highest ascension heroes should always be the ones leveled up
Those 20 levels could make a difference
chrome cargo
Stuck in 15-6, any suggestions? Normal comp is Lucius and Thane then Belinda Rowen and Gwyneth
Been trying to throw Brutus in there instead of thane with no luck lol
chrome cargo
pale kettle
Lucius, Thane in front. Nemora, Rowan, Belinda back in that order
Nemora should charm Arden and if that doesn’t work then switch Lucius and Thane’s places
chrome cargo
Thane is getting rekt in 2 seconds and Nemora isnt even trying to charm arden lol
pale kettle
Switch Thane with Brutus for invincibility and Nemora with Nara for her grapple. If that doesn’t work you may need to just AFK and chill
Wilder teams are always annoying
chrome cargo
ok got it with lucius brutus nara rowen and belinda. took like 15 retries lol
pale kettle
Sweet
gleaming hornet
Would like some help with 13-14, every stage went easy till this one
pale kettle
Switch Ira with saveas
chrome cargo
tfw the boss battle was easier 
gleaming hornet
@pale kettle Doesnt work, shem cant get her ult off before she dies..
pale kettle
Put Duras call on her if you don’t already have it on her
You could also try switching nemora with mehira
gleaming hornet
Mehira did the trick, thanks 😄
wicked edge
Some1 that could help me im stuck on this boss level. I can kill 3 but mostly get close to winning and then lose
This is my current lineup
coral pier
@wicked edge I would switch shemira to lvl 180 and nemora to 162 and put shemira to frontline instead
since nemora is still useful at lower level thanks to her charm and heal
tall forge
Any tips?
clear saddle
@tall forge Can you post your whole hero list as well?
tall forge
coral pier
Is the problem that shemira dies too fast or is it that she doesnt deal enough damage?
tall forge
She dies a split second before she heals/casts her second overlapping ultimate
Her ultimate alone doesn’t do enough damage, double ultimate melts
coral pier
what artifact are you running with her?
tall forge
Energy
coral pier
do you have blade?
tall forge
Nope
coral pier
or take brutus away and put saveas behind shemira and lyca to frontline
coral pier
did you try swapping shemira and brutus to different locations of the front line?
tall forge
Yup
coral pier
Did you try swapping back line? Lyca should most likely be in the position that dies the fastest since she doesnt do much after haste buff at that low ascension and level
tall forge
I’ll try that
Still getting destroyed... guess I should afk to level up my heroes then?
coral pier
@tall forge Late response... but sometimes you just have to afk to complete stages. This game requires patience.
tall forge
True true.... guess I’ll do that then
coral pier
swap lyca to belinda for faction bonus and added damage
clear saddle
@cyan brook Maybe try tasi instead of rowan, and put your lyca middle back to absorb the vurk hit.
iron kelp
21-52
tall forge
@coral pier I won 😄
coral pier
Nice, gz!
tall forge
Tysm ❤️
coral pier
did you use my suggestion to beat it?
tall forge
Yup
coral pier
@iron kelp Try using that mercenary lucius to replace brutus and replace lyca with rowan
tall forge
What is the most reliable way to get a Brutus copy when ur on chapter 11?
I’d like to get my Brutus to Mythic, only need one copy to get him to E+ then things will get easier from there
coral pier
this is a thing you should ask in #classic-questions but I will just respond fast before mods get here, your nearest guaranteed copy of brutus is chapter 14 completion
tall forge
Aight ty
cyan brook
Belinda instead of Lyca seems to be a little better, but not enough, Belinda doesn't do much damage here. Tasi instead of Rowan and Lyca middle backline, Tasi dies instantly or is left with 5% hp by Silvina.
If Tasi survives then it goes like 50% hp of every enemy, but Silvina just kills everyone too fast.
Put it like this now, if Tasi survives, then it's going much better, but not enough, perhaps if I try with RNG or mercenary.
clear saddle
@cyan brook Shemira against the silvina doesnt work? You could maybe try estrilda instead of lucius against the silvina if you have her
cyan brook
Shemira survives against Silvina, but then Silvina has her ult and will usually insta Tasi and sometimes Shemira, I have only E Estrilda, so I don't know, if she would survive anything here, once Tasi managed to ult and almost made it, but Brutus survived and killed Shemira, so perhaps with good RNG it will work eventually.
Anyway, thank you both for the tips.
I did it! Lucius and Arden somehow survived and helped Shemira against Brutus. Thanks for the help, guys.
pale kettle
what chapter and stage
thorny crystal
and you also need to show what hero's u have
granite chasm
Brutus 1 Dura eye - Shemira 2 Dura blade - Tasi 3 dura call - lyca 4 dura Grace - nemora 5 @dark juniper
dark juniper
I’ll try
supple zealot
How do i counter this athalia blasting my team?
granite chasm
Brutus 1 eye - Shemira 2 blade - Tasi 3 call - Lyca 4 dura Grace - Nemora 5 Drape @supple zealot
dark juniper
@granite chasm ty cleared it
granite chasm
np ❤️ @dark juniper
dark juniper
❤️
supple zealot
@granite chasm nope athalia still blasting away at my@team
granite chasm
@supple zealot yea its really Rng fight your Lyca need to keep Dodge athalia attacks , your lyca gear might not be that good dura grace didn`t help ?
floral nebula
How do I beat this nightmare
supple zealot
Dura grace doesnt even ger activated @granite chasm
granite chasm
@floral nebula Lyca to dodge Athalia
@supple zealot you might need better gear for lyca or A at least i tried 😦
granite chasm
gj bro + good luck at chapter 23 @supple zealot
ornate totem
is this posible????
stable mason
Been stuck here for a minute. 21-60
granite chasm
@stable mason brutus 1 - shemira 2 - tasi 3 - lyca 4 - nemora 5
verbal delta
Can anyone help with what heroes I should be playing for best line up?
pale kettle
send your heroes
dark current
Hmmm I'm stuck at the 23-34 and I can merc a heroe, any idea?
pale kettle
@verbal delta you need CC.
exotic oar
Need help :
pale kettle
Please help I need to beat this level I’ve tried everything
exotic oar
Nvm i beat it with numisu instead of nemora
spiral glacier
I have 2 open spots at the crystal, any suggestions who I should put there?
exotic oar
Vedan is good early game
still oar
Arden keep 1 free for emergency @spiral glacier
Can you resonate Arden
Try
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Athalia
@pale kettle
Luc
Lyca
MiraelBrutus
Rowan
Try it
@verbal delta
verbal delta
Ty
still oar
And focus try stop from making too many L.
verbal delta
What does >> mean
pale kettle
it indicates that that hero is in the fontline
verbal delta
Who is my second front line
still oar
Oh brutus. Mb
pale kettle
.....
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that resembles the battle formation
tough bone
Hey fellas. I've got a question. Can kaz as the only damage source? I've got Lucius, Tasi, Nemora, Rowan and Ira right now. But I'm near 160, and I doubt that Ira will be useful after that.
I do have a legendary+ Kaz that I could use, but I'm unsure of her damage capabilities.
still oar
He deals massive damage with her counter and be tank with her dodge but you will need to invest in her
pale kettle
Yeah she isn’t as f2p friendly
eternal pecan
Can i beat this? Light tower 95
rotund copper
Trying to figure out what should be my core team now. I'm on 8-20 now and was using Lucious, Hogan, Shemira, Raine, Saveas.
still oar
Use Rowan even if only e or you can borrow like this dude @eternal pecan
eternal pecan
@still oar Thanks! I'll try getting a Rowan merc
brisk heart
Any recommendations?
ivory breach
10-34 , best lineup i got was that, but always ends up saveas vs saveas and time runs out, any ideas?
all heros
stuck sparrow
I'm at 11-4 and can't break through it. I'm using Saveas, Rowan, Twins E & L, Lucius, Hogan. Any ideas for new composition or something?
pale kettle
send the enemy team.
vocal sandal
Any suggestions without using the mercenaries? And Ik i need 2 more mythics for my resonating crystal to hit 180 and for shemira to hit 220 but I'm currently waiting for 1 more lucius and tasi to make them mythic over the others at the moment
still oar
Stage @vocal sandal?
vocal sandal
20-21 sorry
still oar
A sec let me check
Try
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca(Arden)
Shemira (lyca)
Arden(shemira
Try something like that. @vocal sandal
vocal sandal
Ok will do and also do u think it's a good idea I'm waiting for 1 copy of tasi and lucius to make mythic instead of making belinda and lyca mythic right now for my crystal?
still oar
How many copies do you have @vocal sandal? Tasi still works with low ascencion but luc needs his stats
Wdym @pale kettle?
pale kettle
From earlier
vocal sandal
Tasi and lucius are both legendary with 1 copy and I will be able to make them mythic as soon as they become legendary+
still oar
Tbh you really need the ascencion to break crystal and waiting for luc and tasi is rather gamble. And can be month if you don't have another copies is Belinda and lyca I suggest khasos and fawkes instead since you can buy both so you will def can A them.
Your first 5 As is really important flag @vocal sandal
vocal sandal
So it's better to push for more ppl to ascended now instead of getting my crystal level to 180 from 160 currently?
pale kettle
Dian what should I do and where should my placements be I can resonate Arden if needed or whoever btw also thanks so much for your help
still oar
Oh ic try
Tasi (nemora). Or tasi
Brutus. >>>Lyca
Lyca. Shemira (nemora)
Shemira. >>>Brutus (shemira
Arden. Arden
Make sure that Arden roots Arden and kaz especially if shemira is against kaz. And if you use nemora charm ogi or nemora @pale kettle
iron kelp
21-52 help. My team gets wiped in 3 seconds 😭
still oar
Your goal should be A instead of m. By choosing lyca and luc you could be stuck at Crystal 200 later @vocal sandal
If you choose fawkes and khasos instead you won't be since you can buy them and not relying on rng
For your current you need to get your crystal to 180 but with safely don't just ascend any. Although luc, Belinda, lyca and tasi has more utilities they also possess more risk
pale kettle
Omg dian thank you so mich you are the best at this game
vocal sandal
Ok thanks I'll get khasos and fawkes up then since I could now. I appreciate the feedback.
still oar
Hold sorry @pale kettle. I thought you're talking about your past and I searched it back up.My bad hold on a sec
pale kettle
No I won! Also who should I use the scrolls on what faction look at my heroes I sent a picture
dire needle
What do u think guys?
still oar
Wilder. Your shemira already m+ so you only need to buy the rest. Your wilders can use some beef up. Try to get your lyca, nemora and tasi to Ascended @pale kettle
Other options would be lb but lb is more expensive since you will need to invest in signature pretty deep
Try Arden lyca and nemora as backline @iron kelp
Make sure Arden roots Arden and kaz and nemora charm saveas. Restart if kaz Arden and kaz didn't get rooted
split gull
pale kettle
you need a tank and damage dealer. @dire needle
split gull
F290 any tips?
still oar
@split gull
split gull
so pretty much i can't do it now xD?
still oar
Some of the working comps
split gull
yeah if i had everyone 240 would be easier to do ;v
ivory dragon
I have a choice of any hero (stargazer freebie on first 10) who should I be going for. I'm on chapter 17 (feel free to ping me)
still oar
Try mehira. Everyone who utilizes mehira usually progress faster. She is tryhard best friend @ivory dragon
ivory dragon
@still oar does she work at elite? I would be hesitant to get a character i dont already have. My entire team is based on keeping Shemira alive
pale kettle
she's good even at E.
still oar
Yep. Used elite up to chapter 22. Someone used her in chapter 23
sharp hornet
Need help with 23-24 please
still oar
light kite
I hate this stage
What the telegram duder had, don't have the rowan or Nara, only at elite+
still oar
If you can resonate Arden
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Roots Arden and kaz and charm saveas.
If you can't
Nemora
Shemira
Rosa(tasi)
brutus
Lyca
Charm Arden so he can root kaz @light kite
light kite
I can resonate an elite arden
still oar
Without Rowan I doubt it that Lucius can survive until ult.
Elite is fine juts give him best boots
light kite
Somehow enemy Arden ult does a lot of dmg lol
well, won, thanks a lot @still oar
@still oar what would you recommend for this one
cerulean hamlet
Generally, it's Nemora vs opposing arden and your arden opposing their Nemora for stages where you face Nem + Arden
light kite
I see
@cerulean hamlet Worked, thanks
Last stage to clear chapter 20
Trying arden top now, works alright, but still pretty far from victory.
light kite
no tank, huh
still oar
Nah it's okay. If you need more dps try replace tasi with rosa
light kite
getting massacred with first lineup
still oar
Can't root first?
light kite
Can, but still die even then
i'll try Shem in front, she tanks better and gets more energy that way
still oar
How close?
light kite
with shem in front much closer, can maybe do it with enough resets. Speaking of, got it on the next try i said that
still oar
Good luck 👍
light kite
@still oar Thanks again, I think 1 chapter is enough for today :P
pale kettle
Any suggestions?
high loom
I got lucian
Or is it lucius anyway what's the comp?
Do I drop lyca
Then have sav Hogan Belinda and Raine
high loom
Doi accend luci and swap Hogan for ezizh
Level 1 his stats are better then hogan even though Hogan is elite + and ezizh is elite
NVM I had items on him lul
Almost fucked up
untold rivet
Any possible help please?
pale kettle
Okay first of all the heroes you level up should be your heroes that are highest ascension so reset Lucius, put him on crystal @high loom
Belinda
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
@untold rivet or instead of Belinda you could try Nemora for wilder bonus and charm
either use Shem or bel, try not to have two damage dealers in your lineup.
What should I swap Bel for?
Nem
if you're gonna use Shem as a tank, don't place Luc in the back. either switch the two or swap Luc for someone else.
I agree
@untold rivet holy satan that is a lot of unnecessary legendaries.
tell us how it goes @pale kettle
Yeah I strongly believe Shem should be in the front though. She’s much better in the front majority of the time @pale kettle
Mhm. But idk who I'd swap Lucius out with.
Rosa or Arden? just an idea.
also, you probably wanna stop making so many unnecessary legendaries. you haven't oofed too badly, just don't go any further
Or I notice your mythic Brutus is higher lvl than your Mythic + Lucius so you could reset Brutus and make him 160 and make Lucius 180 and then try Lucius in the front where Brutus is
Okay it worked.
Is Lucius better than Brutus for me rn though? Since Brutus has damage.
I wouldn’t worry about his damage as much because you have shemira who is your carry. Also Brutus invincibility is nice too but you should test your Lucius at least just to see
Lucius is arguably one of the best tanks.
I think he IS the best
Damn I really like big swords though :c
people could say Thoran is better, considering how scary he is with his sig.
I'll try him out next time this team is failing me.
silver forum
Any tips 😛
still oar
Who's Silvina's target @silver forum?
Try Arden in place of Raine @silver forum?
silver forum
my arden is getting 1 shooted
still oar
Between Rowan and Rosa who's the target? You can try to put robe on arden for def and make Rosa the target since silvina's targeting the lowest def
silver forum
i pass it somehow 😄
@still oar anyway i think i am reaching my current limits again
still oar
Gz 👍
Aren't we all 
silver forum
i guess if i put 100 euro stuff will be better hahah
trail wraith
Thoughts on 16-20? Silvina attacks nemora first, but can switch it to attack Arden by switching equips
thorny crystal
probably won't be able to but yea I've been stuck a week now and would really like to progress
I ve tried pretty much everything I can think of so it's OK if u can't help
pale kettle
don't use ascended tier heroes as fodder and don't take a hero to L unless you can immediately take them to L+ @high loom
high loom
What about my Hogan doe
pale kettle
@thorny crystal holy fuck that is a lot of legendaries.
@high loom what about Hogan?
thorny crystal
yes I messed up ik lol I made all them when I did not know what I was doing
high loom
Should I get him to l
pale kettle
@thorny crystal have you tried Nem instead of Ulmus?
pale kettle
@high loom not using ascended tier heroes.
high loom
Ok
pale kettle
Any suggestions to win
well first of all, don't use ankhira lol
Okay lol
don't have two main damage dealers in the same lineup.
can you show your full roster?
Well there are some extras because of arcane labrynth and the ones I chose
Here
okay well first of all that is WAY too many legendaries
safe sleet
pale kettle
But what should my lineup be lol
safe sleet
Halp please. This is what I've been using. Getting closer, but keep having to back out and restart.
pale kettle
Use tasi and lyca
safe sleet
In place of?
pale kettle
Send ur full roster
safe sleet
This is the second to last level on stage 3 hard mode grr....
pale kettle
Try tasi lyca Nemora I’m back then shemira and Lucia up front playa round w that
safe sleet
Ok, I'll run that a few times. Thank a bunch!
Fudge. They all died before I could back out. Welp .. be back Wednesday I guess.
silent wraith
@thorny crystal try this, I manual control shemira to ult right before tasi ult
thorny crystal
I'll try ty
violet matrix
who should I get to mythic + first ?
wide breach
pale kettle
I’d say Lucius. He’s more dependent on ascension levels
violet matrix
Okay thanks
remote otter
I usually run shemira Rowan lucuis Fawkes and either Nara or brutus. Who should I put in there to round up the team I was thinking of going smashmode way and putting Belinda in there but idk
pale kettle
youre lacking Wilder trio.
craggy fern
So khasos in for nara?
pale kettle
what
craggy fern
Ohh wilder.. whoops
pale kettle
Wilder trio is Lyca, Nem, and Tasi
craggy fern
Lol had 1 purp card and just got tasi
pale kettle
you're already on your way
craggy fern
Just need nemora from luck or lab shop
pale kettle
luck, focus on your Shem from lab until you get Shem to Ascended
random seal
Hellllllp
pale kettle
do a ten pull.
random seal
Haha 🤭 thanks for reminding
pale kettle
you also need to focus on raising your level cap.
random seal
Yes trying.. but locked coz of bad pulls 😞
pale kettle
which you can easily do by foddering your L+ ardens to Nem and Lyca.
or if you wish to wait for Tasi instead of Lyca.
i'm sure you know by now to not make unnecessary Ls.
random seal
Yes im gonna feed 1 arden for now...just waiting for a straight M+
idle oriole
@random seal
Arden
-Brutus
Nemora
-Shem
Lyca
That's what I beat it with
floral vapor
So my main team is Shemira + Brutus in the front and trio Wilders in the back (Tasi, Lyca and Nemora).
I'm very close to making Grezhul and Ferael to ascended tier, so the team will change into: Shemira + Grezhul in the front and Ferael + Lyca and Tasi. what team is better for chapter 24+?
idle oriole
@floral vapor #classic-questions
floral vapor
ah ty new here, sorry
random seal
@idle oriole thanks trying the team now 👌
violet pawn
Can’t stop devil girl from killing shemira when she ult want tips?
delicate hazel
Any tip for clearing this boss round?
sleek portal
@delicate hazel take athalia away, put lyca in, charm saveas, root 3 other hero, belinda dps
exotic oar
Any suggestions?
sleek portal
@exotic oar saveas brutus frontline, nemora lyca tasi backline, would be good if you have a level141 arden(any ascension) for triple root too.
exotic oar
@sleek portal thanks 👍
silver forum
pale kettle
This is my 2nd account, wondering what kinda team I should build with this? First time trying out E&J and Eironn, I both see how they could be useful but they might be too low levels? Anyone can gimme help? 6-20 is kicking me hard right now lol
agile root
16-40... any suggestions?
pure inlet
agile root
Doesn’t Nara work on athalia?
pure inlet
i can build her to m+ but no fodder sadly, used it on ferael instead
pure inlet
mine's at elite+, should i use her then?
agile root
Squishy but gets rid of extra cc and gives faction bonus
wise merlin
@agile root Try to put Kaz in place of Lucius to provide you with 3-2 faction bonus, and see if it makes any difference
tall forge
Keep getting rolled by estrilda, what should my line up be?
pure inlet
who do you think i should swap for then @agile root and how should i set it up
wise merlin
@tall forge Put Shemira in the front, instead of Lyca, put Lyca up against Estrilda, and Brutus behind Shemira, like so :
Arden
Lyca
Lorsan
Shemira
Brutus
tall forge
I’ll try that
wise merlin
@pure inlet I meant to ping you when I said what I did above ^ (not my last sentence, the one before it)
agile root
Do what Nicky said to me lol
pure inlet
oh lmao thanks, i'll try that, all good
wise merlin
Sorry for the confusion 😅
agile root
Nicky any suggestion on my situation? I tried a few set ups..
wise merlin
@agile root Sure! Let me scroll up and read it real quick 🙂
agile root
Thanks
wise merlin
@agile root First, you can't fight hasted heroes without haste of your own. Lyca is a must.
Try this out!
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora (charm Kaz / Lyca)
Antandra
Tasi
Additionally, I'd sacrifice Saveas to Antandra, since he's turning less and less helpful at around that stage, and It will greatly help Antandra's survivability against Kaz. Faction advantage and Ascension level increase.
pure inlet
@wise merlin not much difference made lmao, thanks for trying though
wise merlin
How many times did you try? 
@pure inlet Usually the right RNG comes off when less expected.
Regardless I hoped that the faction bonus might have a big role in the teamfights.
You could always play around your heroes and see the best result for you! ^^
Best of luck! 
pure inlet
i tried about 15 times, always a decisive loss, yeah i hoped so too, i'll see if i can find any other lineups, thanks a bunch
novel adder
@pure inlet you need to restart immediately everytime lyca doesn't dodge.
agile root
Yeah.. that Arden root is smoking me 😅
pure inlet
@novel adder doesn't dodge all of her attacks? or the first one only? cause usually my lyca dodges the first, but doesn't make much of a difference
silver forum
novel adder
@pure inlet the more she dodges the better.. so its usually a combination of lyca dodging, fera stunning her to keep her locked down.. until tasi ults.. and hopefully by then you win.. you can try thoran again though hahha..
i can't specifically remember mine.. but seems like my khasos got lucky axes.. check ur in game messages
agile root
Not like it matters just went down for maintenance 😂
Oh well fresh 10 pull once servers back up. Guess I’ll hit the hay 🤷🏽♂️
pure inlet
oof thanks, and jesus that khasos
sadly mine's only m+, waiting on lab refresh for A
and my nemora only l+ lmao
silver forum
Should i delevel belinda amd level shamira?
agile root
I definitely need to get Shem to at least 200 but I can’t do that until I get the other plebs to 160 🥺
novel adder
@pure inlet nem is fine.. charm is not really ascension dependent XD. if you want a better khasos mine is available though i think you can pass without.
@silver forum i think that is a bit unnecessary at this point in the game.. your shem is also only E so she maxes at 100 right now..
silver forum
I can make her e+
pure inlet
doesn't seem to work haha @novel adder
novel adder
@silver forum belinda is also a capable carry.. especially since you made her L already.. save your diamonds. In that stage you probably need more targetted dps to snipe out he niru early.. and if any of your units die too early he will snowball.. so consider running maybe units like ira, brutus, saveas if you have them.. you do however look pretty underleveled
pure inlet
i'm trying a thoran setup now for this stage @novel adder lmao
nocturne edge
I am using Lucius, Rosaline, Rowan, and Eironn. What is the best hero to fill the rest of my line up? Need one hero more to build a team
candid stirrup
Anyone have some advice on what people I should use im stuck
quiet falcon
delicate hazel
Thanks @sleek portal for the tips
odd python
@quiet falcon is nemora fast enough to charm arden to get him to root the others
woven nimbus
22-56
worthy island
22-38
still oar
Root tasi and nemora and charm Arden @woven nimbus
@worthy island
Try root tasi and thane
sharp flame
15-36 any ideas guys?
rigid summit
Any suggestions? Have my Dura’s stuff on them as well
sharp flame
Thanks will give it a go @still oar
lavish swan
still oar
What's your own brutus? M+
I cleared it faster with khasos A +10 instead of brutus.
If your brutus is m or more try merc +10 or more khasos with eye and rng it so he would delete his flank
Try line up such as
Safiya
Khasos
Mauler
Brutus
Mauler
I think vurk's poison rally help her with khasos's SI
@rigid summit
sharp flame
@still oar you rock, the artifact was key
woven nimbus
22-60
still oar
You can also try
Tasi(nemora)
Lyca
Rowan
Shemira
Arden
Rng Arden roots athalia then immediately followed by Rowan ults and shemira ult. By then you should win @woven nimbus
I think the key is to root Arden and athalia and charm thane
naive crown
18-14
clear saddle
@naive crown Use your own arden instead of nemora, make sure that he roots the enemy kaz and arden or else your shemira will melt 🙂
clear saddle
Oh, your shemira must be very tanky then 😅
pale kettle
Need lineup for 23-18 please
ember bane
Need line-up for 23-30
naive crown
18-32
spark temple
Halp
clear saddle
@naive crown who does silvina target?
naive crown
Lemme look
clear saddle
@spark temple take out saveas and gwyneth for lyca and tasi, put call on tasi, eye on shem
naive crown
She targets tasi first, and basically one shots her
clear saddle
@naive crown Estrilda against silvina with good boots can mitigate the jump damage
pale kettle
Not sure what to do here I have to put athalia in the middle to stop pull
sleek stone
Any help kings tower 270?
primal hollow
I was wondering if I’m able to get suggestion on the best wriz lineup, currently I’ve got Shemira+Twins+Belinda+Lucius+Rosaline and getting around 85m
agile root
Have you tried your khasos instead of the twins? If he has his sig weapon he should have enough sustain and damage at that level to help id imagine that or use a rayne
primal hollow
He does, i'll try it tonight
pale kettle
Get rosaline following shemira, use your belinda to buff herself and shemira, and rowan for energy regen, and whoever you want as 5th. I get 250m, though I'm likely further ahead of you, all the buffs to Shemira will make a massive difference (as long as rosaline follows shemira)
teal galleon
primal hollow
@pale kettle Yea rosaline follows shemeria, is it worth having the lucius though? and if I were to use rowan who would get replaced with
pale kettle
Replace twins with him, I feel
agile root
I’d probably do something like
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Belinda
Khasos/rayne
That way Shem gets a double buff from Belinda and rowan
pale kettle
Mine is
Belinda
Estrilda
Rowan
Shemira
Rosaline
Even more buffs because of Estrilda
primal hollow
I'll try both khasos/estrilda both do have their sigs
agile root
Right now I’m using brutus in place of where I’d put a khasos/rayne and getting 20-22m.. levels are obviously a hinderence lol
pale kettle
Any help?
sleek portal
@pale kettle what tower level is this
pale kettle
Mauler floor 60. The last one i need
sleek portal
hire ascended warek with SI, or Vurk with SI, last option would be khasos with SI
pale kettle
Ok thanks
sleek portal
@fiery cipher try using arden instead of nara, 4 wilders should has mass CC, arden roots 3 including thane, best charm target would be seirus so he stuns his team
fiery cipher
arden gets like. 1 vine off before getting oneshotted. while nara's bleed can make fawkes die when shem gets to him, more often than not
ember bane
Need line-up for Mauler tower 100
fiery cipher
cuz if fawkes coffins shem, then that entire back section is just insta dead
clever pine
pale kettle
you need to work on your Wilders
late tide
Assistance with these two battles would be great
pale kettle
Any suggestions to beat this level
fierce kayak
@spark temple reset Sav and pump Shemira. Shemira and Savaes/lucius/tank front, Arden Tasi Lyca nemora pick 3 out of 4 Depending on stages should go well for you.
Occasionally can try Lyca as doge tank front or nemora front with Savaes back.
dawn lagoon
Having problems clearing this any tips? Is it wise to reset and boost those who are still alive?
tall forge
Who would win? Jamie is on stage 27, other guy is at 25
upbeat moat
@tall forge this channel is not for helping with predictions
naive summit
Is this leveling correct? Getting belinda to 180 first?