Personally for those stages:
Blade/Call - Shem
Eye - Arden
Call - Tasi
Drape - Brutus
Grace - Lyca
Chalice - Nemora
#lineup-help
cerulean hamlet
make sure arden and nemora have good boots too since those give haste
I don't think levels are a problem, mostly just RNG to get nem to charm ferael and for him to fear the correct targets. Also for shemira to dodge saveas' attacks because those would nuke her otherwise
pale kettle
Any help on c9-28?
cerulean hamlet
@pale kettle Could you post the stage too?
ancient raptor
@cerulean hamlet alright ill keep trying but shimera dies everytime in the first 2 spears thrown by saveas lol then everyone else quickly follows especially once fereal ults lol
But thanks ill keep trying and hope i get that rng thats needed
cerulean hamlet
@ancient raptor Yeah, that's RNG. Weapon + boots M+ on faction will help with the dodge + HP they give if you have that. Alternatively you can put her in front of brutus but often Brutus is worse than trying to dodge sav spears.
Ferael stages in general are pretty annoying since you need to charm the correct enemy.
Good luck π
pale kettle
@cerulean hamlet
ancient raptor
Yeah i forgot how much of a beast saveas was seemings he dies off at like 180 ish.
I've noticed that i got stuck on an early stage because he was apart of it and i just had to keep going until nem charmed him then i finished it and kept going for a few rounds until i found him again lol.
Thanks ill need all the luck i can get for this lol
@cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
@pale kettle
Saveas
- Hogan
Tasi - Lucius
Belinda
Maybe see how that does?
If not you could get an arden into your crystal and try
Nemora
- Saveas
Tasi - Ulmus
Arden
Try get your saveas to 140 (160) though, that'll help
pale kettle
And the first artifact who should get it?
cerulean hamlet
Grace? I think Saveas should for now for the bonus HP
ivory dragon
Stuck here, current team just gets nuked before they can do much of anything
My artifacts
cerulean hamlet
@ivory dragon Put nemora in the middle so she charms ferael
If Tasi banishes ferael replace her with Arden
ivory dragon
Don't have an arden built up atm
cerulean hamlet
Just put a random one in crystal then and work on building him up
He'll help a lot
ivory dragon
Oh rng dodges worked on like my 30th try
cerulean hamlet
grats :p
ivory dragon
Thanks xD
dry timber
Will Silvina do the trick in this stage? Cause that ginger gal burns my ass
cerulean hamlet
Tasi over Nemora could do it, silvina won't really help
Tasi
- Lucius
Lyca - Shemira
Arden
dry timber
Tasi goes after Raine unfortunately
cerulean hamlet
Err, that's not the point. Her ult + Shem ult + Arden to delay should be enough that shem can kill everyone
dry timber
Oh, I see, gotta level up my heores in that case I think, cause it takes like 5 seconds before my roster is wiped lol
cerulean hamlet
Try swapping Lucius for brutus then and see if that buys you enough time
torpid cosmos
How in the world do i beat this annoying floor 249, its impossible, ive swapped my heros around and i can NEVER beat it, its annoying me big time.
west depot
Wait till you hit 251 stuck hard hah
placid flower
F265 π
willow eagle
@torpid cosmos brutus(1) lyca(2) shemira(3) nemora(4) mara (5) have you tried this ?
torpid cosmos
Yes, nara, lyca and shem get vined instantly by the stupid tree :c @willow eagle
willow eagle
Hmmm, I know khasos in (4) shreds all wilder teams like that one.. but you dont have a strong khasos.π€
torpid cosmos
Yeah :c
My shem is able to ult but dumb tree stun locks with charm adding on then vines after charm so its pretty much 100% locked until death while nemora heals them
Pretty annoying stage, lilith sure knows how to annoy tf out of people on leaving their games
willow eagle
what has been your closest attempt so far?
torpid cosmos
Umm.. none, they all get turned into crud in seconds since nem doesnt beat arden's vines and to top it off i think they speed up further when i use lyca aswell
warped peak
Is this a good line up for pvp? I want to put lyca in there just for the Armor debuff she gives but idk who I could/should replace
torpid cosmos
@willow eagle kept retrying, this is my best attempt
willow eagle
@torpid cosmos you know what would make you win is a fereal. 100% and have brutus be in (1) and remove lucius for fereal i think.
torpid cosmos
None of them died though, yeah except the stupid game doesnt give me one i joined over 3 months ago andd none
@willow eagle
willow eagle
You could always try to merc one π
upbeat moat
Wishlist chance is way higher than 0.5%, but please keep this channel purely for help with lineups
torpid cosmos
@upbeat moat sorry, deleted the extra posts
But i guess ill wait until i get some ferael or i end up getting a good khasos, thanks.
final star
Reposting cuz still stuck 22-50
brittle summit
I've found myself stuck on this stage. Any suggestions for who I should?
willow eagle
@final star brutus 1 Lyca 2 shemira 3 tasi 4 nemora 5 will work just needs A LOT of retires. I remember this one
brittle summit
@final star what did you use to pass the stage I'm stuck on?
willow eagle
@brittle summit what stage is that?
brittle summit
22-42
willow eagle
My screenshot is the same formation as 22-50 however it's so outdated due that it's not skreg it was some other frontline hero π
cerulean hamlet
@brittle summit
Blade shem
Call tasi
Eye Rowan
Grace Fawkes
Chalice Lucius
iirc π€
Shouldn't be too bad considering your levels are higher than what I had when I did it
prisma trout
i have the chance to make either raine or rosaline M+. my current lineup is shemira, brutus, tasi, raine, and rosaline. who should i do?
river gazelle
Been stuck on KT 262 idk how to beat it any ideas?
willow eagle
@prisma trout go rosaline, shes far better than raine. Raine underperforms hard.
@ashen schooner random video here seems out of place, need some help
rigid wadi
That is the line up for kt262
ashen schooner
candid stirrup
I need some help iv been on this fight for a cuple weeks and thinking of just deleting the game because this is getting ridiculous
ashen schooner
The name omfg
Okay go ahead and post it then ig LOL
I thought it was a Rowan sig upgrade video whoops
willow eagle
Yeah the name threw it off π€
ashen schooner
@river gazelle That video ^ may help you
@rigid wadi Thanks dear, sorry for the mixup
river gazelle
Who should I use instead of Rowan I donβt got her
rigid wadi
for my comp, idk, rowan is pretty essential for energy regain, probably try other comp with shem brutus arden lyca nemora
shem brutus being the front row , arden lyca nemora back row
cerulean hamlet
@river gazelle you can try
Athalia
- Shemira
Mehira - Thoran
Nara
Ascensions shouldn't matter too much other than Shem
@candid stirrup Can you post the order of the enemies, it's not always clear from the start pane alone
upbeat moat
@candid stirrup try:
Front: Brutus, Shemira
Back: Lucius, numisu, nemora
candid stirrup
@upbeat moat your amazing :) thank you so much I finally beat it ..I'm not to good at this kind of stuff
upbeat moat
No worries, glad I could help =] if you havenβt already, check out the pin in this section about team building, might help you
candid stirrup
Ok I will look at it
proud lodge
Best group I can make? Is Rowan worth adding to it?
cerulean hamlet
@proud lodge For sure, if you can get Saveas up to L+ too that'd help immensely at your stage running something like Shemira - Lucius - Saveas - Rowan - Something (tank if you're not using Sav frontline, Bel if you are or so)
ember bane
@copper moon succeed 23-26
clever patio
@worthy swallow lucius and hogan up front and other 2 leveled up rares in back and get an arden upgrade
worthy swallow
@clever patio thank you!
@clever patio I just got vedan and ankhira. Does that change anything?
Do I put Arden on my team? Whoβs my 5th?
viscid stirrup
Anti cc comp idea
Thane for invulnerability
Brutus for immunity with his last grasp
Werek to cure cc
Lucius for cc prevention
Fawkes to aoe cleanse cc with his ultimate?
pale kettle
Need lineup help for both 23-10 and kt 285 please
agile root
15-34 need some serious help lol Iβve tried everything... do I just need levels?
Belinda is 161 and other heroes are 146 now btw
wide wasp
King's Tower Floor 300
They're 50 levels higher than me but should probably be possible somehow
May have to try borrow a Thoran
void sequoia
Which 5 should I be leveling
pale kettle
18-40 been stuck here for about 2 weeks, I keep lvl up my heroes but it ends in about 5s
Any good lineup I need ?
high sluice
Best PvP-Lineup here? I am not really sure, what to take here
pale kettle
Stuck on 9-35 what should I do with my lineup?
tawny plinth
Best PvE lineup`?
full temple
@tawny plinth tough one. Can be a bit situational. What stage are you on?
granite chasm
for now Saveas Lyca brutus Arden nemora - at the future Shemira Ferael Brutus thoran Lyca Tasi nemora @tawny plinth
tawny plinth
13-11
full temple
@tawny plinth we're in the same boat man. That Brutus though... lol
tawny plinth
oh dang xD
full temple
I don't have quite as much power to work with though
tawny plinth
you have more power! don't you?
full temple
I mean overall yeah but I have zero tanks over E+ so my front line is paper. Lol. Pretty sure my Arden lasts as long as Lucius up there
tawny plinth
OMG I just beat it with the lineup Kelua recomended!
full temple
@granite chasm your infinite wisdom got him through that stage. Any recommendations for me? Lol. I've tried quite a few and figure I'm generally out of luck without upping my level or ascension.
lofty depot
@full temple You shouldn't use Shemira prior to 161. Use Saveas instead
Show me the stage and I'll help you
@tawny plinth #classic-questions
full temple
@tawny plinth change your nickname for the server. That's how I do lol
@lofty depot I started to realize that only after shem carried me through chapter 12 and part of 13. Trying to get saveas to 160 and trying to up my resonating level cap.
lofty depot
Show me the stage @full temple
warm mauve
@full temple can u show enemy lineup
full temple
Tried to take some CC advantage on that lineup that time lol
lofty depot
@pale kettle @high sluice @pale kettle there is no "best" lineup you need to show us the stages
granite chasm
Reset Shemira + lvl Saveas 160 , don`t use shemira till she 161+ for now you can run Saveas Nemora arden lyca Brutus + at the future Shemira Ferael Brutus thoran Lyca Tasi nemora @full temple
gloomy haven
Suggestions? Iβve been stuck here for far too long... π€
full temple
@granite chasm will an E Brutus be able to hold enough? Haven't had the luck for his pulls yet lol
lofty depot
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
@gloomy haven
Make sure Arden roots Kaz
granite chasm
@full temple he can handle it dw
gloomy haven
How do you make sure someone attacks the right person?
warm mauve
@gloomy haven put them in opposite spot of them
granite chasm
Shemira 1 - Brutus 2 - Nemora 3 - Lyca 4 - Arden or tasi 5 @gloomy haven
pale kettle
@lofty depot
high sluice
@lofty depot was talkin about Arena of Heroes tho, can still send u the stage i'm at
lofty depot
@high sluice if you need PvP help then @olive thorn is the one to ask
gloomy haven
Thank you both! Will work on Arden to see if it makes any difference.
high sluice
warm mauve
@gloomy haven u can Always try to charm enemy arden with ur nemora
lofty depot
You should use Saveas and not Shem until she is 161
Do you have him? If so:
Saveas
Hogan
Rowan
Lucius maybe
Lyca
Try that
granite chasm
@high sluice reset shemira + lvl belinda 240 / run full LB Like estrilda 1 - lucius 2 - Fawkes 3 - Rowan 4 - Belinda 5
lofty depot
The lineup above was for you @pale kettle I forgot to tag you
gloomy haven
Would Arden have Call then? For his artifact.
pale kettle
@lofty depot yeah I have saveas but hes only legendary
lofty depot
Call is better for Tasi
@pale kettle doesn't matter he is still better than Shem
high sluice
Dont have rowan tho @granite chasm
lofty depot
It was for VEZ not you Lux @high sluice I forgot to tag him
granite chasm
then / Belinda 4 with Dura Blade - Rosaline 5 Rosaline with Dura call @high sluice
gloomy haven
high sluice
Ok thank you
unkempt parcel
help me plz im stuck
gloomy haven
What should Arden be using if I try him
lofty depot
Replace fat guy and Kaz with Hogan and Tasi or Arden
Also try putting someone else front, Saveas if he can survive (instead of Tasi/Arden that is) or maybe Lyca
granite chasm
@gloomy haven any dura you like if you want him to Root faster Call / but if you have tasi in the team give her Call / arden can use any like Drape
granite chasm
hypo mage
pale kettle
@lofty depot yea im still stuck
lofty depot
Put Nemora top @unkempt parcel
unkempt parcel
wait arden cant root anyone what
lofty depot
Nemora can @unkempt parcel
unkempt parcel
silvina jumps to tasi but arden still cant root for some reason
no one gets charmed too, nvm im unlucky
wise merlin
I believe he can't root because he's interrupted by the Hypogean mage.
Try to give Arden your best boots and gear, also Grace, so he could possibly even dodge his attack and proceed to root.
Best of luck!
@unkempt parcel
unkempt parcel
i see, thanks
sharp flame
@still oar thanks for the Wrizz team comp yesterday, I went from 8M to almost 17M man you are the best
unkempt parcel
@wise merlin is it worth to buy e+ boots for arden as his boots are elite?
sharp flame
Any tips for 14-12?
wise merlin
Hmm.. not really, no, it's an amount of gold you could invest in better things like Emblems of sorts of even L+ tier gear . .
I wouldn't say it'd be worth the progress of like 7 stages
unkempt parcel
oh, so gold goes to L+ gear.... whoops
woven nimbus
Chalice or Drape better on Nemora?
granite chasm
swap Arden with lyca might work @sharp flame
junior hound
23-46
still oar
Yes @dry timber
proper lagoon
Any tips on what my ideal arena set up should be ?
still oar
@junior hound
eternal yarrow
Enemy Athalia destroys everything. Any ideas?
still oar
23 24 @eternal yarrow?
eternal yarrow
Yep @still oar
loud scroll
Stuck on 305 Kings tower
median oriole
who should I make mythic next. I use all 3 of them in my team atm
still oar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/646663156902658049/IMG_20191120_174644_550.jpg @eternal yarrow
eternal yarrow
That worked @ @still oar. Thanks a ton!
sharp egret
Stuck on 8-16 any suggestions?
pale kettle
Need help on lineup with 23-10 and kt 285 please
icy garnet
limpid quail
@sharp egret you have 4 carries on the battlefield. throw in some supporters like lyca or arden. also shemira is really squishy before lvl 161 and is not suitable for frontline imo
@icy garnet put arden in the crystal and try
saveas
gorvo
nemora
hogan
arden
jaunty violet
Any tips for beating this floor ?
limpid quail
@jaunty violet switch shemira with lucius and then use nemora instead of lucius to charm belinda....maybe that works somehow
abstract mountain
Any ideas?
@broken egret Your advices was fine for me always - maybe u can give some help :)?
broken egret
@abstract mountain i can try, probably something like:
lyca
shem
tasi
brut
nem
Try and make sure tasi has lowest def, and see if the silv walks to brut or shem after the dash away
abstract mountain
Silva goes for Shem
abstract mountain
After switching Brutus with Shem silva still focus Shem
rare karma
Can someone help with 17-24?
jaunty violet
Thank you @limpid quail ! I passed it
limpid quail
@abstract mountain then put tasi behind brut
abstract mountain
Tasi still should be focused by Silva right?
limpid quail
yep, maybe she is able to survive the first shot and teleports away
broken egret
@abstract mountain so tasi cant survive first hit from silv?
@abstract mountain also can you sent me the stage number, i can try and look if i still have a solution saved somewhere
abstract mountain
21-49 - Tasi can survive 1st hit but can;t fly away
still oar
Pick one as your carry and max it's level. 200 shemira first for example before you 180 the other. You'll go further that way since the carry can dominate
Try
Lyca(Arden). Or.
Kaz.
Nemora.
Shemira
Arden(tasi)
Use arden or tasi as silvina's bait and start the battle with ferael charmed, if he isn't restart the battle. You can take lyca out of team.
Shemira
Kaz
Nara
Lyca
Rosa @rare karma
Should definitely be easier with 200 shem
broken egret
@abstract mountain i feel like its probably gonna be really hard without the tasi surviving. Only other thing i can think of is putting rowan in instead to tank the hit. Keep nem at the bottom for sure to charm the enemy arden.
abstract mountain
kk will try
Rowan instead of Brutus ?
And if Tasi should alive maybe silva hsould focus nemora?
broken egret
@abstract mountain no you need brut as the tank, so either for the lyca or the tasi. You still need your nem to charm arden. If you drop tasi try putting call on shem
abstract mountain
From time to TIem Tasi can escape
broken egret
@abstract mountain you can also try let silv hit nem, but if you do that, she still needs to be alive long enough to charm the arden, if you dont charm him you are gonna lose regardless
abstract mountain
but not always. Lol I almost made it :O!
oblique lark
got stuck at 11-38
need help, lucius is M by now btw, tried with lyca aswell, cant geht more than 3 kills
lilac vapor
@alpine lark got tasi?
@oblique lark I recently did this, but memory isn't good.. so try this or the horizontal mirror of this
Fawkes/Raine
---- estrilda
Rowan/rosa
---- Lucius
Belinda
Needs a few tries though
pale kettle
3rd one was my best try ulmas is just to op idk what to do I even just leveled my shem to 201 finaly thought that would push me over but no
sour sundial
Is Lucius/Brutus, farael, lyca, nemora, tasi a good endgame comp? I opened so many farael and lyca copies the last few days.
still oar
There is no exactly end game's comp, you need to creatively swapping around. Chapter 30 or 31 boss you need to use 10 heroes. The latest needs 15 @sour sundial
sour sundial
Is that a good team though? For both pvp and pve. I've heard both wilder trio and farael are top tier, and that lyca farael have good synergy, and that they both have very good SI. I'm trying to figure out who to invest SI into
worthy island
Any advice?
still oar
Yes invest to +20 for both @sour sundial.
As for PvP, shemira luc Rosa mehira Rowan can counter then without any big difficulty. Even thoran shemira ezzih mehira ferael can counter them with lower level and ascencion @sour sundial.
They still good but you will definitely struggle if you're relying on the alone starting chapter 23.
Hell even someone with a simple e mehira in their team can passed you in campaign
scenic frost
What should my guild hunt wrizz team be? Been using shemira, Brutus, Rosaline, Belinda, Rowan
glad cypress
Im getting my ass kicked. Need help
still oar
Current meta for wrizz:
Rosa
Shemira (Belinda)
Rowan
Lorsan(luc)
Twins(lorsan)
Blade on damage dealer, call on Rosa and grace on lorsan. Maybe @scenic frost
Rowan
Shem
Mehira
Nemora
Arden
Put more level into shemira. Make her 200 before leveling others @pale kettle
pale kettle
Yea saving up purple for her rn. 25k π
Yeah don't work Arden and Nemora die instantly :/
still oar
Who does silvina jump to @pale kettle?
vale wasp
Hi, stuck on 12-20. Any help appreciated :)
Should I go Arden 141? And try something different? (tasi/ lyca/ nemora ?)
pale kettle
Mehira
scenic frost
Gb73
tepid sentinel
help me pls :<
still oar
Oh Ic let's focus on lower flank @pale kettle. If you are willing to reset brutus or/and Lucius it should be easier, especially if you also have lyca
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Mehira.
Arden should root fronline.
Also which stage is that?
pale kettle
16-20.
If I reset Lucius who should I put the levels into?
still oar
Shemira
A sec let me check how I did it. @pale kettle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/646663156902658049/IMG_20191120_174644_550.jpg @tepid sentinel
pale kettle
But keep Lucius at 160 at least for resonating crystal? Or put into something else.
still oar
160 him and use the dust to 181 Shem.
Even with crystal 160 it's do able @pale kettle
You don't have even e lyca?
pale kettle
Damn still missing 2k aha. I really wanna get a Tasi :( but rng not given me a single one.
still oar
Then take it from brutus as well
pale kettle
And yeah I have Lyca.
still oar
That tasi was just bait, she died instantly. With 181+ shemira you should be able to do it with your original line up
tepid sentinel
@still oar tks bro im passed β€οΈ
still oar
π
tepid sentinel
do u have something like link guide for another map
pale kettle
Shem is so op :)
still oar
Yes. She is if she is overleveled. The common strategy is to buy time until she can't ult and mostly will end with you winning
cerulean hamlet
@hybrid zinc are you able to use this comp?
cerulean hamlet
Hm, do you have Mehira?
hybrid zinc
At elite lol
cerulean hamlet
That's fine
Shem
- Lyca
Mehira - Brutus
Nemora
Maybe try that
Note that that comp is highly dependent on RNG and will usually take a lot of retries
clear saddle
@hybrid zinc Have you passed it yet?
hybrid zinc
Not yet
hybrid zinc
Meh itβs is being dropped by skreg
I need to wait a day before I can put my Arden in crystal
hybrid zinc
Cheers Iβll try it out tomorrow
clear saddle
best of luck π
hybrid zinc
Iβll keep trying the other Comp I was given while waiting tho
cerulean hamlet
Good luck!
topaz eagle
Still stuck here for 2 months + gone from 220 crystal to 240 crystal over 400 retries most likely lmfao
iron kelp
21-45 help
alpine lark
@lilac vapor nope
clear saddle
@iron kelp Try charm the enemy saveas and see if he kills the ulmus? Or lowers his hp by a lot maybe
iron kelp
Lemme try that
sudden sparrow
void sequoia
Which 5 should I be leveling?
carmine cloud
15-40. Think im just not strong enough yet, but maybe someone has an idea how i could beat it. Brutus seems to be a waste here, havent got far with him. Without rowan my shemira dies quite fast. Difficulties with enemy shemira. But putting Nemora opposite doesnt seem to work really. Shemira gets charmed while using her drain thing and it doesnt cancel the ability. By the time she stops, the charm is over and nemora usually gets silenced/dies afterwards.
carmine cloud
@scenic frost Tried this already multiple times, seems to not work completely. Shemira ar bottom doesnt gain a lot of energy and by the time she gets to ult, whole team is dead.
Wrote before that brutus doesnt seem to work for me here. Without rowan my team just dies too fast with only Shemira getting her ult off.
thorny crystal
do you have duras call on shemira? @carmine cloud
carmine cloud
Yes
thorny crystal
ok
light kite
@thorny crystal @carmine cloud Why do you guys put it on Shemira rather than Tasi
thorny crystal
I do it just so she gets her ult that much faster but tasi is another good choice
light kite
I just feel like duras blade will increase her dmg in a similar manner, that the call would. Getting her ult very fast is only good if you're playing against weaker teams
carmine cloud
I dont have blade yet
thorny crystal
I'm bad at explaining formations but try this @carmine cloud
light kite
@carmine cloud Just use nemora, place her in middle backline. If she charms ferael before he haunts, you probably win. That's all I did for that stage iirc
light kite
Though I may have been a bit more lvled than you are
thorny crystal
also trying to use adens roots ability wouldn't hurt its very good
light kite
Yeah, that's true too. I'd personally put Lyca in backline, and tasi in front. Often she can survive the initial attack before she teleports
thorny crystal
wait so @light kite why do you put what server ur in in ur name
light kite
So people know I'm a somewhat new player
thorny crystal
lyca can dodge pretty OK most times anyway
light kite
It helps if she has dodge items :P
thorny crystal
yep
carmine cloud
Nemora always charms Grezhul. Ferael is banished. This formation doesnt seem to work too good. Maybe im just underleveld for this one π
thorny crystal
yea a formation can only go so far without the right levels
lkie I'm waiting to get another mythic plus so I can get my shem a higher level
carmine cloud
Rowan
---Shemira
Nemora
---Lyca
Arden
The best ive done with this team for now. Got to the point of 1v1 Shemira and Niru, but cant seem to finish him.
That charm on ferael really does the trick
thorny crystal
best of luck
carmine cloud
Hehe, just did it π
thorny crystal
grats
carmine cloud
Thanks for the tips!
thorny crystal
yw anytime u need help there is someone here most the time who will do their best to help u
still oar
Baden for luc to add def and 10%bonus @uneven comet
uneven comet
@still oar thank you very much
carmine orbit
@cerulean hamlet i finally beat it
cerulean hamlet
Grats!
carmine orbit
it took a lot of gear switching and artifact swapping
sharp flame
14-38 any ideas?
carmine orbit
just fought that loadout just harder this is the heros i used
sharp flame
Cool you've got better heroes than me but I'll give it a go
carmine orbit
but if that doesnt work try fish or someone more experienced π
still oar
Swap tasi and Arden. Start with rooting kaz and lyca @sharp flame
sharp flame
@still oar that was my original try but they die to quickly, maybe I need to 180 Shem and start leveling the others to 160
still oar
No don't think need 160 of shemira dies too fast
Arden
Brutus
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
sharp flame
@still oar I did it by using the above formation but switching artifacts, call on Tasi and drape on Shem
The original one from my pic 
still oar
π
half sorrel
20-60 hitting me hard
light kite
What's the strategy people have been using for this?
half sorrel
I just passed that one!
fading cipher
Rosaline may help
half sorrel
I used lucius, Shem, Brutus and bell but rosa could be a better option?
light kite
@half sorrel did you put shem in the backline
half sorrel
I did but yours is better than mine and my Brutus was ascended. I used the same line up and kept swapping their places till I did it
light kite
@half sorrel In the middle I assume so only one nem can charm her?
half sorrel
Yeah middle for me
half sorrel
light kite
Brutus dies too quick
visual quiver
fading cipher
Kings tower 286?
light kite
managed to do it @half sorrel
half sorrel
Maybe use your tasi instead of Lyca @frank scarab
light kite
@half sorrel Went for heavy dmg lineup just like you did, and it worked.
half sorrel
Ayyyyy I'm proud of u π
light kite
And by heavy dmg i mean "Make it so shemira kills everyone"
half sorrel
Lmfao need one more Shem and I can get her to ascended
light kite
saving lab points?
half sorrel
Of course
light kite
hopefully you get it soon, she's useful
half sorrel
I need to pass 20-60 she'd be useful rn tbh
pale kettle
How am i supposed to win this in the peaks of time
pale kettle
The abysmal delves, and yes its my first playtrough of it
violet igloo
@pale kettle you just need to wait a bit more, your team isn't powerful enough yet. This is perfectly normal. For me it tooks like maybe 2 months of waiting before I could clear it. I think i had to wait until my team was all level 240.
Also @pale kettle putting Belinda in front of Brutus is not a good idea π
light kite
should be doable with 220 if you reset enough times to get good relics
violet igloo
A Lucius would be nice in your current line up I suppose.
Yeah, and also you absolutely need Firebringer and Icebringer. I think I might have been lower than 240, I can't remember. I finished all peaks of time long ago so I never played it again for some time now lol
pale kettle
Thanks, ill need to wait for eternity i guess
light kite
though, with your lineup, your squishy mages will just die to warek? You could use a tank like paddy said
violet igloo
@pale kettle no, not eternity lol. You need the right relics and your team to be a bit stronger. And also to have the correct hero placement. Your belinda gets tossed by warek and she gets gangbanged behind ennemy lines lol
pale kettle
My hero placement doesnt matter at the moment because everyone of my heroes gets one shotted
light kite
Yeah, you need someone like Lucius, probably instead of estrilda imo
@violet igloo Got any advice for my problem?
violet igloo
@light kite well you need to get lucky and have nemora charm one of the ardens. A part from that, you might be a bit underleveld. You need shemira to ult as fast as possible and tasi ult quick aswell. But maybe you'll need Shemira 240, probably not.
light kite
I guess you're right, the problem is even if I get Tasi ult off right now Warek just goes "no fuck you" and keeps killing my shit. @cerulean hamlet 239
cerulean hamlet
Which floor is that?
light kite
can we lower the slowmode timer or smth, i keep having to edit my msgs to respond to people
light kite
I do, and it looks doable, aside from the brutus
think mine will die too fast. and Imagine that i'm only 1 brutus from ascending him. God damn it
cerulean hamlet
Idk, if your Lucius can shield it should be roughly the same effect or so. Don't think you need him much for damage
half sorrel
@light kite sadly no I've been trying to do this 20-60 haha
light kite
@cerulean hamlet Who did you put duras call on?
cerulean hamlet
nobody, lol
light kite
wait wat
cerulean hamlet
I think it could work on Shem but I didn't optimize my stuff for it
light kite
I see. Well I am :P
cerulean hamlet
I had Drape brutus
Eye Arden
Grace Lyca
Blade Shem
Nothing Lorsan
half sorrel
cerulean hamlet
Call on shem might help
light kite
Eye arden. Hmmmmm.... HMMMMMMMMMM
cerulean hamlet
Yeah, he roots faster if he crits
light kite
Wait what, seriously? why
violet igloo
@light kite when u get brutus it'll be easier
cerulean hamlet
Haste increases action speed
light kite
Yes, but how does crit affect haste?
light kite
oh, i guess attack speed is just haste. It's so annoying they don't just call attack speed and mspd haste
willow eagle
@light kite this is the artifact at lvl 5 that gives haste upon crit as well. Just to give you an idea
cerulean hamlet
@willow eagle It actually gives it at all points π They just changed the text at +5 from atk speed to haste
violet igloo
eye is the most op level 5 artifact
willow eagle
Oops, wrong picture.. sorry this is the one
daring sluice
Haste increases ult gain and skill use but attack speed doesnt if i understand it correctly
visual quiver
there is no attack speed stat in this game. haste = attack speed
cerulean hamlet
Haste doesn't increase energy regen. It increases action speed and attacks give you energy
willow eagle
Yes, what fish said is valid. If you take a look at twins or lyca they both increase haste of allies in their own ways. And this makes everyone attack faster so they get more ult gen. Heroes also cycle through their abilities faster.
light kite
Yeah, sometimes lucius can get his ult off but its not enough it seems. Brutus also doesn't work. Time to afk I guess.
prime skiff
median crypt
Hello
prime skiff
stuck on 16-40 just wondering if I can do anything else to make it through, was told this team comp worked, just wondering if theres anything else I can do with maybe artifacts or gear
median crypt
What's your heroes ?
prime skiff
half sorrel
Do your top 5 not work together?
prime skiff
could they?
median crypt
@prime skiff What's the line up?
prime skiff
line up?
prime skiff
half sorrel
@valid harness try Hogan, Lucius, Fawkes and two maulers or Wilders
solid yacht
Stuck on 16-32
dry timber
Any suggestions plz? I got some yesterday but opponent just stampedes me
lofty depot
@dry timber Try putting Shem top front, remove Thoran for either Nemora or Tasi
half sorrel
odd python
try this? you can swap grez with brutus
willow eagle
@gentle hound have you tried doing something like rosaline frontline instead of hendrik? bottleneck all your enemies down to lucius while having belinda coffin'd. This with a couple of attempts should have belinda do "belinda" things and nuke everyone.
gentle hound
Ok cool I'll try that! Thank you
flat gyro
Signature item upgrade. Which is most useful, I have Fawkes, Isabella, Numisu, and Brutus.
Fawkes is main team, rest are sparatic usage when needed
@gentle hound also try putting Shemira in the resonating crystal and have her try tanking if they bottle neck doesnt work
Replace Hendrick with shemira
gentle hound
@flat gyro thanks! I got through 13, so I'll give that method a go too!
dry timber
I think I have started to use Shemira as tank at like stage 10 or 11
flat gyro
Shemira is a extremely strong tank later in the game so make sure to keep leveling her if u can
shell hamlet
gb floor 70
wheat cedar
Any tips? 20-37
willow eagle
@shell hamlet I would put fereal against athalia for the dodge chance (may take a couple of attempts) and grezhul infront of skreg. I feel like you may need thoran instead of kelthur but, if you are lucky with kelthur swap on tasi/shemira you should be able to nuke ezizh or their shemira with your isabella and shemira.
@wheat cedar try shemira(1) brutus(2) nemora(3) lyca(4) tasi(5)
wheat cedar
@willow eagle Closest I have gotten yet, might not have enough damage to completely beat it yet but thanks! Might try and mess with Artifacts, too. Think this is the winning one, tho
willow eagle
Awesome! Glad it helped out π
thick topaz
pale kettle
Can you help: 16-40
@thick topaz do all of them evenly do your crystal is the same level as your other people.
But make your highest rank the people you level up because they can reach a higher maximum level.
haughty tide
Help me
high loom
Don't want to upgrade Belinda what's the best lienup for me
clear saddle
@haughty tide Does your khasos deal more damage or your shemira? (on average)
ivory breach
what would be a good wrizz lineup from here?
haughty tide
During battle?
clear saddle
Yes
haughty tide
Sometimes but in this battle yes because Shem doesnβt get her ult off all the the time
clear saddle
@high loom You can probably run Saveas Belinda Hogan Arden and Estrilda/Ulmus maybe
@haughty tide Maybe put lyca in place of one of them, her haste could make the difference.
clever stag
Any advice for a newish player?
clear saddle
@clever stag There are a few guides in the pinned messages in #classic-questions
clever stag
glass dawn
So I've been using Shemira after hearing such good things but I'm realizing she is more late game than I thought. I'm thinking of resetting her (since I can't get 81 without getting 5 61s I just learned) to make a team of 61s. I'm considering raising Lyca and Arden, but I'm not sure if Arden pre81 is even worth it. Maybe saveas, khasos, numisu, with a light frontline?
Any thoughts or tips are appreciated
Also open to just sticking with this if it works, or swapping one of the light out for silvina (who I think I can get to epic+) just not sure what is best.
I know this is probably way to early game for it to matter, I'm just trying to progress quickly, thanks!
opal ledge
This isn't the lineup I'm trying, just showing all my alive toons. Thoran and Brutus dead. Maybe my relics aren't good enough because wrizz is destroying me. Ideas?
cerulean hamlet
@glass dawn Probably something like Arden + Saveas + Lyca + Hogan + something for now till you pull more units
Sav + Hogan frontline would work as long as you overlevel Saveas
@opal ledge What relics do you have? Anyhow the wilder trio backline is not particularly good for Wrizz.
Sav + Rosa + Shem + Lucius + Belinda might work though
wide breach
Anything other than waiting for merc/continuing to level? At best I get them all down to about 20% but enemy Tasi keeps messing with Shemira
got a resonated Arden as well and all the LB supports but they do way worse than wilders when I tried them
cerulean hamlet
Arden > Nemora could work, root Tasi to buy time
keen bison
Stuck at 16-28, any ideas?
opal ledge
@cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
@opal ledge
Belinda
- Lucius
Saveas - Shemira
Rosaline
Try that, it should work. You can retry if they do badly and hope for better RNG on fire + icebringer
(As in pause before battle ends, if it ends Wrizz goes poof)
opal ledge
Lucius dies immediately to immolation burn =/
Ya I've been trying that ros dies too easy too. Ends up being shem and Sav 2v1
I'll keep trying for better eng tho, thanks!
cerulean hamlet
Maybe try using Baden over Saveas
His phantoms can help distract wrizz + phantom strike can increase their damage
@opal ledge
stray pine
Mauler 149 , any suggestions
glacial brook
suggestions?
native trout
do you guys think there is anything I can do? I think I just need to wait to limit break shemira
hah, nevermind, nemora instead of fawkes did it
silver forum
trail wraith
Thoughts on 15-40?
smoky delta
Can anyone help me with Maulers 40?
visual quiver
did you use saveas as fodder? he is a pretty good carry until mauler 60
smoky delta
Yeah I did unfortunately lol, is he my only hope?
visual quiver
well, no but your levels are pretty low
smoky delta
Yeah I need one more Mythic to break the 160 barrier :/
visual quiver
well, then sav probably is your only hope. maulers is a pretty shit factoin because of no good supports
so level gaps can't be easily overcome without an ascension advantage
smoky delta
God dammit I knew I should have kept Saveas, oh well
pale kettle
Need lineup for 23-12 please
Iβm stuck on stage 22-26... anyone has any tips on how to beat this?
clear saddle
@pale kettle Probably replace fawkes and rosaline with nemora and tasi. Nemora middle would be ideal so that she can charm the enemy ferael (unless tasi banishes him)
plain pewter
Mauler 120
clear saddle
@paper pagoda take out rowan and fawkes for lyca and tasi
Make sure dura's call is on tasi
paper pagoda
@clear saddle Tasi explodes immediately from Silvina
clear saddle
Does she never survive? or did the silvina crit her
pale kettle
@clear saddle hey do you happen to have line up for 23-12?
paper pagoda
Out of 10 runs she never lives I should probably swap all the gear around tho
clear saddle
@pale kettle lemme take a look
@paper pagoda silvina jumps the hero with the lowest defense, so you want to keep it that way. Or you could use rowan instead of arden maybe
clear saddle
@pale kettle Unfortunately i don't have a screenshot, but you probably want your lyca frontline in place of shemira, since ira will melt her.
paper pagoda
I know thereβs a pretty solid 180 Shem wall around end of 16 early 17
pale kettle
@clear saddle i see, ok i will give it a try. thanks!
paper pagoda
@clear saddle is the goal to just get Tasi to sleep everyone or am I hoping she lives long enough to teleport and sleep
indigo jolt
@pale kettle
pale kettle
@indigo jolt i managed to clear it thanks! now stuck on 23-14 lol
tall forge
What should I do here?
violet igloo
@tall forge you should reset the level of all your heroes and have your shemira be 40 levels a head of your team
tall forge
Shemira or Saveas?
violet igloo
Try Shemira π she's incredibly powerful when she has 20+ levels compared to other heroes
indigo jolt
@pale kettle
tall forge
I was thinking of focusing Saveas first till shemira is mythic at least
violet igloo
Also you don't need another grezhul in your crystal lol
tall forge
Yah I realised lmao
pale kettle
@indigo jolt @pale kettle Thanks! will try it both now!
violet igloo
Not necesarilly, it's up to you. What chap are you at ? Also do you have nemora or tasi ?
toxic niche
Hi everyone, I'm stuck here, any advices?
tall forge
@violet igloo nop
toxic niche
yes π
I tried to replace elijah et Lailah with shemira but she dies too quickly
maybe i just have to wait π€
nah, belinda replacing the celestial?
honest storm
Help? π
toxic niche
ok i'll try ty
pale kettle
@indigo jolt @pale kettle hey guys sorry to trouble you again, do you happen to have 23-15?
its ok thanks!
paper wadi
need help with this level π
still oar
Try
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan (lyca)
lyca(tank such as luc)
Tasi(Arden)
Charm estrilda and root Frontline @paper wadi
still oar
Was she charmed?
violet igloo
Also don't continue to ascend Kelthur. Keep your fodder for Shemira
paper wadi
yes she was
your lineaup nearly worked i only put shem in the backline and another tank in frotline so i got it thank you
@violet igloo i ascended kelthur 1h before i got my shem to ascend her so i let him now at L+
hollow jewel
line up for progressing? currently at chapter 9 and kings tower 109
Running
arden
---lyca
nemora
---shem
sa
gleaming nacelle
Haaaalllppp
brittle forum
gleaming nacelle
Put nemora in the middle and lucius in the front
half sorrel
warm wigeon
any suggestions on how to pass this? their front row is perma cc and then mirael one shots my team
violet igloo
@warm wigeon does Rosaline end up ulting on Shemira ? Try replacing Rosa with Fawkes, he should cage Mirael so she won't ult π
warm wigeon
no, she doesn't. I'll go give it a try.
violet igloo
Alternatively, you can also switch Fakes with Rosa + put Arden instead of Rowan. He can root targets
Arden lvl 141 is perfect, he can root 3 targets insead of 2. If he roots Estrilda then it should be gg
warm wigeon
thank u! fawkes did it op af
violet igloo
π you're welcome
remote stratus
Hey guys, any recommendations on what to focus on? And what kind of lineup i should go for?
Should i get nemora to mythic(?), i can buy her from store rn, and have enough food
Can also but fawkes from store
violet igloo
Reset your Belinda and put Shemira as your overleveled carry. Put Shemira max level, and you only need 1 carry for your team, Shemira will do the job. And yes you can buy Nemora, but maybe it's best to wait to buy more copies of Shemira so that you can ascend her
remote stratus
Is shemira rly that much better than belinda? Ive alrdy +9βed her signature weapon a well
violet igloo
that's fine don't worry, belinda is very useful when you get all heroes to level 240 π
pale kettle
Iβd still choose Belinda tbh. In the long run youβll need her. End game shemira is just tank
In my opinion there is a 5% chance Iβll win with this comp. Been trying a couple of times already and the closest Iβve been was a full HP Seirus left. If you have a better idea to sort out this team comp please let me know. πβ€οΈ
violet igloo
I'd say that Shemira is definitely worth it. Belinda is good but Shemira will shine better, until you reach chap 24 where she get's out dps'd by some other specific carries.
I'm on chapter 25 and still use Shemira lol. Although I'm switching her off to Ferael π Shemira is beast
tired lynx
Replace Lyca with Rosalina to avoid giving Athalia kill @pale kettle
pale kettle
@violet igloo it all depends on your main heroes right π Yours is shemira and Belinda is mine. π
Considering the invested sigs already, canβt just switch. XD
violet igloo
@pale kettle you can keep Lyca, keep trying until she dodges Athalia hit. 5% chance of winning a fight is really huge. Where I am it's about 0.1% to win a fight
tired lynx
Who does Fawkes coffin?
pale kettle
He confines lyca
violet igloo
He can perfectly switch, +9 signature item is nothing. Where I am, on chap 25, all my main heroes (10 heroes) have at least +10
pale kettle
Tried Rosaline thing and just melts lucius
My main heroes too have +10. The switch thing I was talking about was for me lol
Actually Belinda and Lucius is at +20
violet igloo
@remote stratus try resetting Belinda and putting all your heroes level 140 and Shemira level 180.
warm wigeon
@violet igloo any idea about this stage? tried with arden but he doesn't get to root before he dies
violet igloo
Yes, I'm taling to Next, not your line up lol
remote stratus
@violet igloo @pale kettle if u see my lineup. I lack a proper support, thats why i dont know what i should do. Got enough copies for nemora for mythic. Cause rn. I use belinda, gwynet, thane, brutus, and single copy of rowan lmai
tired lynx
Well... How about putting Lyca in Fawkes's place and Rowan where she was?
violet igloo
@remote stratus yes you are missing supports an have too many DPS on your team. Usually 1 dps that is higher levels than others is enough
remote stratus
so. reset belinda. Put everything on shemira
violet igloo
@warm wigeon try this :
Arden
Shemira
Fawkes
Lucius
Rowan
remote stratus
how should my lineup look like then? @violet igloo
dont see gwyneth working too well in my team btw..
violet igloo
You can try Nemora Brutus Shemira, then add 2 other heroes.
remote stratus
is nemora a good support hero? rly big fan of rowan for some reason, but i dont get any copies lol
violet igloo
Yes gwynet is a dps carry that works only in specific comps in late game... i'd say this for your line up
Lyca
Brutus
Gorvo
Shemira
Nemora
try that π
you don't need to worry about putting your Belinda to Mythic, it's not a bad decision, it's perfectly fine. You'll need her later π
remote stratus
but its okay that lyca, gorvo is only elite+?
elder needle
dark tundra
@twin hare
Try
Lyca
Shem
Arden/tasi
Brut
Tasi/Arden
If u can borrow a lyca.
@elder needle charm fera. Try using meta team or Shem+ wilders
Nemora
Brut/lyca
Lyca/tasi
Shem
Arden/tasi
iron kelp
21-45
dark tundra
@pale kettle try taking out fwkes and try full LB. It's either rosa/Rowan or try using mehira in the back mid.
pale kettle
The 5% chance actually worked after like 100+ tries. I was blinded of resetting the fight when Lyca gets melted the second the battle starts but it was actually the key of winning this. Look at that synergy bois π±
dark tundra
@iron kelp try Shem+wilders
Arden
Shem/lycq
Lyca/shem
Nemora
Tasi
final star
Halp pls
dark tundra
@final star what flr
dark tundra
Nice 
final star
120 lb @dark tundra
dark tundra
@final star take out Fawkes . I think u don't need him there.
Try to front your Bel and Rosa?
Estrilda
Rosa
Rowan
Bel/lucy
Lucy/bel
@final star also this.
half sorrel
Any ideas? Lucius dies like instantly if I put him at the top. But then Arden, Shem and Isabella like absolutely kill everyone else.
final star
@dark tundra what arti do u recommend
granite chasm
brutus 1 - shemira 2 - Arden/tasi 3 - Lyca 4 - Nemora 5 @half sorrel
half sorrel
Tysm I'll try it out
stray pine
Wouldn't it be better for you to reset Brutus and put it into Shem as well. Feel like it would put more impact
granite chasm
he can`t she not ascended yet M+ max lvl 200
stray pine
ah right didn't see the ascension
indigo jolt
@final star
As the ss was mine, i had eye belinda, call rowan.
But took a fair few tries as needed to kill the Warek early on.
final star
Lemme try that
tall forge
Canβt pass this... any tips?
half sorrel
Didn't work, probably will have to wait for better ascentions
final star
@indigo jolt thanks a lot
paper wadi
pls help π
final star
Shem Lyca Arden Nem Tasi
grim river
How do I beat these guys?
Should I try again for better relics? I got poison and also kaz' poison relic. But also just moonstone and firebringer.
violet igloo
I can't remember in this peak of time if Tasi can sleep the ennemy Lucius and Athalia
Having both Firebringer and Icebringer helps a ton
grim river
Well so i just tried again after making no progress with the same line up id been using. Yes tasi can sleep them, and i beat it super easily
paper wadi
@final star thank you worked well
silver geode
heya, could someone help me with creating a team in general, I just want one strong main team which I can upgrade in the long term
barren stream
Looking at trying to make the best line up I can. Would appreciate any help
I'm in chapter 9-28 right now
empty plinth
Which dev thought this was fair
faint mountain
Who would you take to 240 next?
ivory breach
10-32
that was the best lineup i could go more far, still only can kill 1, lucius ultis one time, estrildda first to die, silvinas kills rowan next and it snowballs
heres the actual battle for better visual
fierce kayak
@ivory breach post your full roster too next time and don't cut off the power on top of them. Your line-up is in a mess my friend.. support Arden front?!
ivory breach
power? the overall attack rating?
fierce kayak
@ivory breach nvm.. post full roster else we won't know what options you havr
fierce kayak
@ivory breach next time.. post like the name doctor guy above. You don't have to cut.. just post full screen bro
ivory breach
ok toguht would be easier if i did all in one screen, sry
arden at front was cause estrilda when at front wont last enough until lucius ulti, so if arden gets the first hit she knocs back niru and both survive unti lucius ultis
scenic frost
Help pls 20-30
silk ingot
Would love help
eternal pecan
@scenic frost try
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shemira
@silk ingot Try swapping Tasi and Nemora...get Nemora to charm Saveas
idle oriole
pale kettle
20-45 I just get rekt by the tasi and ulmas Iβve tried using Arden lyca but not much better
cerulean hamlet
@idle oriole
Try moving shemira to the bottom and brutus at the top
Maybe see if removing Nemora for Tasi helps too
@pale kettle your best bet would be Arden at the top to root the Tasi so she doesn't banish shem typically, Lyca over Rowan might help too but at least that is something that might work
fierce kayak
@ivory breach erm.. try position 1 to 5.. Hogan Savaes tasi nemora arden. Make sure tasi has lower gears to bait silv. Nemora maybe charm Savaes.
This stage is not easy indeed so G luck.
fair iron
i need help with my line up
I Need help//i need like i end my game..since i cant ascend those heroes cause game is greedy and my tank die like a butter
pale kettle
I'm currently stuck on 11-36, any suggestions on how I could get past this stage?
willow eagle
@fair iron do you have an Arden or nemora? Or better yet, could you show us your hero box?
pale kettle
I beat 20-45 with this team if anyone wanted to know
ivory breach
@fierce kayak ok ty wil run some using that
willow eagle
@pale kettle try shemira at 1 saveas at 2 arden at 3 tasi at 4 and arden at 5.
fair iron
@willow eagle here you are
pale kettle
Okay, thank you, I'll go try it now @willow eagle
willow eagle
@fair iron try brutus at 1, estrilda at 2, saveas at 3 mirael at 4 and rosaline at 5. Also try brutus at 1, estrilda at 2, saveas at 3, mirael at 4 and ira at 5
fair iron
shall i feed my brutus for mirael and try somehow to invest on brutus?
YOU ARE cheater...done...
@willow eagle
willow eagle
Nah dont feed brutus to mirael, never feed ascended tier heroes to non ascended tier heros :P. And I'm glad that made you win that stage!
vale wasp
Stuck here. Any help?
willow eagle
@vale wasp try lucius at 1, brutus at 2, nemora at 3, saveas at 4, and arden at 5. This is to make it so you can nuke their bottom down before brutus dies while your top team lucius and nemora should be able to hold that side and get ults off. If you need more damage, swap nemora out for shemira
warm wigeon
any ideas on how to beat this stage? enemy shemira is immortal
willow eagle
@warm wigeon try lucius at 1, shemira at 2, fawkes at 3, rowan at 4, belinda at 5. Coffin should go on enemy shemira... nuke grezhul down and inwards to shemira once out of coffin.
jade nymph
Best formation?
vale wasp
Thx for the advices but I still get rekt hard. Probably lack of stuff and level :)
willow eagle
@jade nymph a great formation for pvp is this for you at the moment is lucius at 1 saveas at 2, fawkes at 3, rowan at 4, belinda at 5 I would think.
paper wadi
need help pls π
jade nymph
@willow eagle and for pve/tower?
willow eagle
@jade nymph your first scree shot if you had brutus instead of lucius can take you up to chapter 25. You can use saveas in his stead still and push high
jade nymph
Saveas instead lucius?
willow eagle
@jade nymph you can try that yes, I'd say it can still be viable
@paper wadi this one is tough.. I think you're going to need a strong tank like brutus for this one. We can try golus at 1 ulmus at 2 shemira at 3 arden at 4 and tasi at 5?
paper wadi
@willow eagle after 15 tries i never killt an enemy π
willow eagle
:/ yeah, I can look at it more but it's going to be tough. Need a hero that can prolong one side such as brutus imo
still oar
Stage @paper wadi?
paper wadi
@still oar 14-38
@willow eagle i will wait 2 days an do this stage with a 5* Brutus from a friend
still oar
Try this, root kaz and Arden and maybe charm ogi or ira @paper wadi
Give it a 10 or 20
remote otter
paper wadi
@still oar thank you π
fresh blaze
half sorrel
Try Lucius at 1, warek at 2, Belinda Rowan and Shem?
half sorrel
Have you tried your strongest 5 and just switched rhwie formation till it works? I do that all the time
tall aspen
need help with this lvl 80 tower
half sorrel
I haven't managed to do that one
white birch
still oar
Can you resonate arden? Who does fawkes confines? Shemira @pale kettle?
I used
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Shemira (blade)
Rowan
Charm ferael with nemora so his first scream is aimed at his team
Khasos and brutus frontline. Rng it so khasos would wipe nara on his flank with his first axe throw combo,
You can borrow A +10 Khasos to make it easier @tall aspen
upbeat moat
@rugged monolith try the following:
Front: Lucius, Shemira
Back: Fawkes, Belinda, Nara or Fawkes, Belinda, Nemora
rugged monolith
Okay, thank you
teal galleon
desert basin
@ocean vigil Ask in here
still oar
Try
Tasi/Belinda
Eironn
Rowan
Lyca
Luc
Clear upper flank first since niru will only be getting stronger each time someone dies @ocean vigil
quasi crag
15-36 stuck π¦
wide wasp
King's Tower Floor 300
sharp hornet
LB tower level 120
sharp flame
Any tips? 15-26!
pale kettle
try Nemora.
twin hare
18-32. Anything I can do with this? Tried swapping front 2/back 3 positions; tasi lowest def so she gets focused. Also tried using lucius instead of brutus and nemora instead of either tasi or arden. No merc available until next week. Tasi can survive but everyone except shem dies in <20s, and she can't 1v4/5.
upbeat moat
@twin hare who does silv jump on
twin hare
@upbeat moat tasi, either she gets 1-shot or can survive to jump away
upbeat moat
front: shemira, brutus
back: lyca, arden, tasi or nemora, lyca, arden
twin hare
Alright. Suspect i may be stuck then without upgrades, been trying combinations including that one all day. Thanks though.
upbeat moat
@twin hare should be doable with your heroes and levels. what artifacts are you using
twin hare
shem/blade, nemora/drape, lyca/grace, brutus/eye, tasi/call @upbeat moat
devout jolt
Can't get by Stage 5-36 with this lineup of heroes. Will need to either wait for the 12 hrs afk bonus or seek out a backup plan
urban oasis
obtuse oak
Stuck on 19-38
devout jolt
@pale kettle I'll try to place Saveas in the Mirror Place, but leveling up my heroes is going to be a major pain with the low amount of that blue resources that can be gathered
pale kettle
just go afk. resource blocks aren't common in the early game
obsidian plaza
Help against these guys
rigid dragon
Any help? 21-37!
cerulean hamlet
@meager zinc Replace Lucius with Arden and try that
@obsidian plaza What heroes do you have?
@rigid dragon Arden would help a lot for that stage in the back-top position
Otherwise level 240 shem would help an replace Khasos with someone like Rowan I think.
Arden
- Lucius
Rowan (if you have him) - Shemira
Fawkes
Maybe
rigid dragon
@cerulean hamlet It worked! thx bro
meager zinc
It did not work @cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
@meager zinc what other heros do you have then? I can't see your whole roster from that
light kite
Man I hate Tasi
cerulean hamlet
Belinda
- Hogan
Rowan - Brutus
Fawkes
@meager zinc Maybe try that, though ideally you need a level 180 Shemira right about now
@light kite The comp looks fine but:
Arden (Yes, again)
- Lucius/Brutus (if Luc can't ult)
Lyca - Shemira
Tasi
light kite
No, dear god, No more arden 
@cerulean hamlet I used him to feed Lyca to mythic so she can get her SI. I literally have no arden anymore
light kite
tasi is too quick it seems, she charmed tasi but not before
ill try fawkes to purge the banish. Nah, its too slow
Well, time to wait another 3 days for mythic gear it seems
cerulean hamlet
rip
eternal pecan
@light kite maybe try
Nemora
Lucius
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
meager zinc
They just kill me 4 - 0 @cerulean hamlet π
But thanks so much for the help
eternal pecan
oh wait thats not 20-32...disregard lol
copper moon
@light kite
cerulean hamlet
@meager zinc Hm, I think your best bet would be to try get a Shemira to mythic then since she'll probs work better as a carry.
Good luck then :p
light kite
@copper moon it's not 20-32 its 20-45
meager zinc
I'm close to doing that
But I won't have a boost with Shemira...
@cerulean hamlet
copper moon
@light kite
light kite
@copper moon Almost worked, gonna restart 10 more times maybe itll work
cerulean hamlet
Rowan - Fawkes - Lucius/Hogan + Shem + Arden would have it if you get shem up @meager zinc
light kite
@copper moon What was the link to that telegram?
shell hamlet
KT floor 220
light kite
silver forum
copper moon
@light kite
silver forum
Help please
light kite
@copper moon it's 50 not 51
cerulean hamlet
@silver forum You just need more levels and get a Saveas to overlevel/focus on + buy shem from lab store
light kite
Wait, 51 has same heroes?
copper moon
@light kite
cerulean hamlet
@shell hamlet erm,
Arden
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Tasi
Maybe?
shell hamlet
whatβs the win conditions? what am i looking for? @cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
Shemira to live long enough to ult 1-2 times
Takes some dodge rng + targeting but should be okay
harsh frost
Any help with that ?
obtuse oak
Any help?
upbeat moat
@obtuse oak one thing you can do is reset some heroes and take shemira to 220
obtuse oak
@upbeat moat never even thought about that, thanks i'll try it
glossy furnace
Please help me, been stuck here for over 3 weeks
pale kettle
use your Nemora to try and charm brutus
candid stirrup
I'm having truble with my line up for beating this stage anyone have some advice?
pale kettle
more CC?
rain oriole
@obtuse oak the line up I used here worked for me and few other people
worldly shale
just pulled my first athalia... my crystal is around the 130-140 range, is it worth using athalia at E level?
fierce kayak
@distant cave Shemira 220 first rather than 200 Brutus is better if possible
distant cave
Im really short on essence..
pale kettle
Stuck on 11-36, any advice?
cerulean hamlet
@pale kettle
Tasi
- Saveas
Aden - Shemira
Nemora
cerulean hamlet
Hm, you want your Saveas to L+ and level 160 asap but:
Nemora
- Saveas
Tasi - Lucius/Shemira
Arden
Maybe try that?
Your lineup is pretty good though could use a Lyca. It'll get a bit easier once shem is 161/Sav 160 too
sour depot
Alright so I should just start dumping my exp into Saveas for the time being?
cerulean hamlet
Yup, and after that Shemira (and arden to 141 as fast as possible will help too)
Your core is solid so it should be pretty good once you get skills unlocked and so
sour depot
Awesome! Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the help!
cerulean hamlet
Np! π
ember bane
Need line-up for 23-28
pale kettle
@cerulean hamlet thank you for the advice, I'll try and upgrade my saveas and shemira
prime skiff
cerulean hamlet
@prime skiff
Arden
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Nemora
Make sure arden roots enemy Nem and your nem charms their Arden before they do that to you
carmine zealot
Currently use hogan and luc up front and bel, Rosa, and nemora in back. Any suggestions for a change?
willow eagle
@carmine zealot think of a future frontline to keep in mind as hogan will fall of around chapter 10. You can go for an estrilda if your LB heavy
@pale kettle what has been your best attempt? I am trying to get a better idea to help you out
pale kettle
Uhh lasting more than 10 seconds I guess. Everything just dies too fast.
willow eagle
Hmmm.. I feel like a tasi would be the key to help you winning this honestly. She along with nemora and lyca can help close the big power gap you are at
quasi crag
HELPPPPP!!!
mossy remnant
I need help
worldly shale
that's pretty general bud
neon sinew
hybrid zinc
22-50. Pls help lol
idle oriole
low lodge
This is my hero collection so far. What's the most optimal lineup I can make with them? I'm at chapter 2-21 rn.
glass dawn
Stuck on 6-20 but I really want to knock it out and unlock the last building. Any tips? Reset and go for more 81s? Can I replace Brutus with a graveborn tank? Thanks for any help.
pale kettle
@glass dawn You could try resetting Shemira and overlevel Saveas instead (as he is much better at lower levels) which is also good with your lineup due to faction b onus (3 wilder + 2 mauler)
glass dawn
Yeah I was using that, and then when I got stuck and pulled a second shemira I switched over, but I have thought about switching back. Would you run arden as 5th? Or early game run Lorsan instead?
pale kettle
Not sure - never used Lorsan before - so depends on whether you depend on Ardens CC or not π
glass dawn
Or, if I'm switching back to saveas, I could even run Numira as 5rh, too much healing?
vale kraken
Put lorsan beside/ behind saveas
So saveas murders two people with his spears, instead of being a single target nuke
glass dawn
Sweet, I'll switch now. Thanks for the help yall!
candid stirrup
Can somone please help me I have tried a cuple different combos but cant beat it
vale kraken
Put gwyn mid backline so he wounds saveas. Wounded saveas is low damage saveas
candid stirrup
Gwyn?
vale kraken
Gwyneth
candid stirrup
Put her in the middle back
My main issue is my tanks die even with good gear and the lvl they are at
woven lichen
You can try shemira front... sheβs 20 levels higher
Otherwise it looks like you are two elites away from making saveas L+ which would help a lot.. can swap levels with shemira
pale kettle
Lineup help for 285 king tower please
radiant field
General lineup help ... who should I focus on, have a 5* mythic rod for lightbearer mages
agile root
15-40...
tight quest
Recommended hero for this? 18-36
warm wigeon
any idea for this? their front row cc is painful then khasos ults and it's rip
fierce kayak
@agile rootnemora middle back ferael, reset if charm fails. Consider drop LB against GB. Else Arden nemora lyca backline is better.
lofty depot
@warm wigeon you shouldn't be using 2 DPS. Use your Shemira and remove Belinda for Nemora/Arden. You can also remove Fawkes and try Tasi if the first option doesn't work
warm wigeon
@lofty depot my arden dies (with second best gear set I have) before he even gets to root anyone 
lofty depot
Use Nemora instead and see if you can get her to charm
warm wigeon
got her to do the job, but it seems like my shemira 's dmg is just not enough. she used ult twice and enemies were above half hp
placid flower
22-38
wise merlin
@ocean vigil Swap your formation around to look like this :
Lucius
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Tasi
It doesn't matter if Lyca doesn't survive, all she's useful for is her haste.
If Eironn gets interrupted, put him in Rowan's spot. might work!
@placid flower Swap the positions of Nemora and Tasi, charm Ira multiple times.
I'd also argue that putting Athalia instead of Tasi might serve you better, since Tasi banishes Thane, which prevents Shemira from getting any energy.
Formation should look like this :
Nemora
Brutus
Athalia
Shemira
Lyca
placid flower
Cool I will try
ocean vigil
@wise merlin ok thank you I will test it out
wise merlin
Best of luck to both of you! π
waxen osprey
Critiques on my area line up? Much appreciated. β€οΈ
wise merlin
@waxen osprey I'd argue that putting Tasi and Ulmus in the same formation is a must, since Ulmus is also considered DPS, while the enemy is put asleep, Ulmus would just plow through them like they're nothing with his rock throws.
Maybe putting Eironn instead of Tasi in that formation would work better, considering Eironn does DPS work as well, while also displacing them.
placid flower
Got a little closer but thinking I need a better athalia and thane gets his ulti before me shem π
waxen osprey
The reason I have ulmus and eironn together in that group is bc of eironn's whirlwind combined with the warek/Brutus combo and the safria shield. I like the hard cc from ulmus since it's a hard rush from the start and all the heros are squishy, including Brutus. π€£ @wise merlin
wise merlin
@placid flower Good luck with it! maybe put Nara instead of Athalia if you have her and if she's a bit more beefy? anything that could deny Tasi for the longest time.
@waxen osprey Fair enough! but why is kaz out of your formations? think you could squeeze her in somewhere? maybe instead of Athalia?
waxen osprey
@wise merlin Kaz wasn't really ascended or even close until a week ago until I got fodder for her. π even now I'm still iffy about her BC she scary rng based. LIKE SCAAAAAAARY, scary. But if she's a better pick than anthilas Auto stun. 
fierce kayak
@silver forum this game doesn't really need to reroll unless rerolling is what you are into. Since you still need duplicates even if you roll a good hero. Nemora is a good hero. Early game tips You can refer top right pinned here.
shy crag
Help pls
tall forge
Canβt beat this stage, what should my line up be?
sterile canyon
Need help with 20-26
rain oriole
@gleaming nacelle this is the lineup that did it for me, helped a few others aswell. Took me alot of retries and RNG but should be doable with your levels
rain oriole
Nice :p
shrewd haven
rain oriole
@shrewd haven scroll up a bit and try that formation
gleaming nacelle
Yup works like a charm
thick cypress
best lineup for guild bosses?
pale kettle
@thick cypress maybe
Rosaline
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Twins
pale kettle
clear saddle
@pale kettle Who does fawkes coffin? Regardless, you can't have your shem frontline. She will melt against ogi as well as ira. Might have to put her behind brutus.
pale kettle
Fawkes takes Lyca @clear saddle
clear saddle
Maybe try put your rosa frontline instead of shem
smoky delta
Can anyone help me with 18-36? Seriously sick of seeing Ascended Arden ugh
clear saddle
@smoky delta You could probably use your own arden in place of nemora.
smoky delta
So the problem is when I successfully get the combo off (Shemira/Tasi ult), Brutus ends up being the only one alive and then killing Shemira :/
clear saddle
maybe try something like
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shemira?
smoky delta
Hmm, doesn't really make a difference. Still the same issue with Brutus. The rest of my team is under levelled I guess. No way I can get Shemira ult off early enough with Arden, Ankhira and Nemora
clear saddle
@smoky delta
make sure you have call on tasi, blade on shem and drape on brutus. Everything else doesn't matter as much
smoky delta
Yeah, that's what I'm running. Still too much CC
clear saddle
have you tried using the setup i posted above? if so, you might just need some more tries
pliant charm
Im stuck at 9-36. Stinkin vampire guy.
smoky delta
Yeah I've tried that. Either way if I get the successful combo off Brutus survives and kills Shemira. I guess I'll just keep trying lol
errant minnow
Any idea? Enemy team has too many quirks to counter ;_;
idle oriole
@errant minnow tried Wilder support instead of Rowan and belinda? π€·ββοΈ
errant minnow
Unfortunately everyone gets smashed without rowan
And without Belinda, that silvina jumps straight to rowan
idle oriole
Yea thought so.. Rip ;β;
hexed junco
Hello guys
errant minnow
If that wasn't enough, Arden and nemora make half of my team useless if they manage to survive
idle oriole
Lmao yea they rlly annoying
errant minnow
I was trying to use athalia to keep that Arden from rooting
idle oriole
Yea wish I had Athalia.. I just got Nara for cancelling Arden lol
errant minnow
But she just delays the inevitable
hexed junco
Guys can you help me too choose wich are the best hero to choose as a formation
errant minnow
I should probably wait until I have shemira 240
hexed junco
Oh thanks
idle oriole
Np @hexed junco
@errant minnow that'll be a while tho.. No?
errant minnow
Yea I mean maybe a week or 2
idle oriole
Tru
plush wren
Hard stuck. Any suggestions?
silver forum
clear saddle
@plush wren arden and tasi in place of rowan and fawkes, and then you probably just need rng.
You gotta root the tasi and kaz every time.
ember creek
I'm getting murdered on 14-28, any suggestions
clear saddle
@plush wren Hmm... i guess its the projectile that she throws after dodging... does this happen every time?
restive socket
@ember creek i would try nemora instead of saveas, and rng the charm on saveas
clear saddle
@silver forum move your vedan bottom. He is going to die really fast against the ogi, kaz and lyca due to faction disadvantage
ember creek
I've tried tasi, nemora, lyca on backline. Frontline goes down faster than a Bangkok bargirl
clear saddle
@ember creek Do you have an arden in your crystal?
plush wren
@clear saddle yes. Ive literally tried that combination you suggested in every different position to ensure no oneshotting.
ember creek
Yeah, he helps a bit but dies quick
plush wren
I still end up losing 0-5. π
clear saddle
@ember creek With lyca tasi arden backline, you should have plenty of cc to stall them. make sure you put dura's call on tasi
@plush wren you've tried lyca front, shemira top back and the rest in between?
ember creek
Shemira and Lucius last 15 seconds at best, even with the backline you suggest
clear saddle
yeah... your lyca does need good gear to survive this though
and maybe arden middle, he needs to root the top section consistently
plush wren
She holds off for a little, and also carries best agi gear
Like, Lucius is getting interrupted too much by the gun boi
clear saddle
If that's the case, try swap the frontlines around?
I don't actually have a screenshot of this stage saved... sorry π
plush wren
And when enemy tasi gets touched by someone, she jumps and oneshots π
Arden tried to root her and she jumped to him like "nope"
clear saddle
Yeah, tasi stages are tough. you need arden to root her each time and maybe a shem silence too.
plush wren
Ugh this is killing me, it's been 4 days
Maybe if I can get a hendrik to Frontline when mercs reset I'll have a chance
pale kettle
@plush wren well today's your lucky day because i have a 220 Hendrik
still oar
Nemora. Tasi/nemora
Brutus. >>>Lyca
Lyca. Rowan(shemira)
Shemira. >>>Shemira(brutus)
Arden. Arden
Root kaz and Arden and charm either ogi or nemora
And try max your carry first. 200 and 160 ia better than 180.and 170 @languid mountain
solid steppe
Anyone has tips on 21-58
ornate totem
need help!!
languid mountain
@still oar thank you!!
wanton topaz
Shemira without Rosaline is a sin :)
ornate totem
@copper moon have no good lucius and wilders
rain oriole
Any changes I can do here? 20-12, charming Ferael doesn't do much, will use mercs
carmine orbit
solid steppe
Ty @copper moon I'll s
Try again after reset.
narrow scarab
I beat 20-34 with this setup and alot of refreshing
idle oriole
@carmine orbit u have no dps
silent wraith
@rain oriole what I used, eventually rng willl win out
rain oriole
This has gotten me down to just Niru but as you know he refuses to die, will give that formation a try