#lineup-help
1 messages · Page 354 of 1
not sure @quasi crag i used nearly the same team, except i had an overall lower level, and instead of rowan i used raine, i may have subbed shemira for remora, but my shemira still isnt 161 yet so i cant say
you could put shemira front line, and try fawks and fairy girl to double cc lock
yee, should work, swap brutus for shemira if you try it, it should end up with fawkes coffining saveas, and rat boi/estrilda getting phased out, making an easy clear
Nope fawkes gets rat boi instead of saveas he’s the one shitting all over my team 😤🤬
shem brut fawkes rowan esti
Is there something I'm missing here? Physically impossible to get thoran below this hp
any help on21-4?
Is there any hope?
For sure, go brutus-shemira arden-nemora-lyca, make sure nemora charm ferael if he don't get root
@idle oriole Poison relic could help if you're okay with rerolling the map
@oak lance Do you have an Arden?
@prisma yacht
@marble bane nemora middle, retry until archer haunts own teamates and give ur usual heros a try on the rest of spots
Any idea to finish 20 - 12
@wide patio have u been using nemora as fodder or.. is that the only ones uve ever gotten? O .o
Didn't use it as fodder before @torpid cosmos
Ahh then huh.. i had enough nemora to get ascended o -o anyways u wanna charm the graveborn archer farael with nemora, after that u basically wipe them out when archer haunts his team, set nemora in middle and retry until archer is charmed and haunts his team.
@cerulean hamlet yeah i do, he’s at the bottom row beside tidus
Hi, I need help on the floor 290
@oak lance Try
Lyca
- Brutus
Arden - Shemira
Tasi
then perhaps.
Evt
Nemora -> charm vurk so he poisons kaz
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Arden
@wide patio scroll up a few
Can anyone help me with PVP? Running into a lot of these types of LB teams and I can't seem to beat them with mine despite the massive power advantage. I don't have Rosaline and only 1 copy of Rowan so I can't really copy the teams. Problem is that Fawkes coffins Shem and then the enemy Shem is getting 1 or 2 ults off before mine can. Not sure how to counter this
Lol u want to get rid of the shemira, and lucius buffs, swap tasi with fawks, he removes buffs, those teams focus everything on defending shemira, wipe her out and u can easily rek them before shes back
@eternal pecan
@torpid cosmos Thanks! So it won't matter that I won't have any faction bonuses?
Not sure about that xD since i never pvp with nemora, i use: shemira, fawks, gwyneth, lucius, and lyca
@eternal pecan so i get a 3 light bonus
NEED HELP PLEASE (I don't have rowan)
@torpid cosmos hmmm Maybe if I went without Brutus? But that seems bad
U can try brutus instead of luci
any suggestions for 22-36? 👀
@torpid cosmos using Fawkes was the key I guess. Thanks for the help. I went with Lucius, Estrilda, Fawkes, Shemira, Tasi and I'm beating those underpowered teams
@eternal pecan woo and yw
I got a question about how/and wich heros i should set up
@dark current Courage ^^'
Hmmmm why?
Any ideas for 21-12? hard stuck
@rigid dragon have u tried swapping shem out of the range of nemora so she doesnt charm and ur own shem wont wipe ur whole team out
No what position would be outside her range??
@rigid dragon Opposite her. So lucius and Shem right now i believe
@torpid cosmos It worked! thx
Can someone pleaseeeeeeee help. I’ve been stuck here for days
@pulsar tapir How does nemora work for you instead of either brutus or Lucius, to try to charm one of the ones killing you?
Yw :3 @rigid dragon
And @pulsar tapir place nemora in middle remove tasi and scoot lyca to top, retry until farael haunts his team after charmed by nemora
I would say Nemora in for Lucius...but that's my preference haha. Def put her where Lyca is
Haunt always triggers later than charm?
Yes lyca speeds up aswell
Yeah, you can always get charm off first if you run Lyca
Okay I will try that and see if works
I see, then yeah, then thats definitely the solution
Nemora dies so quick
She doesnt need to last she just needs to charm the archer
Oh snap it worked
Yep
Thanks so much guys.
Yw
Could I get some tips on my best lineup? Just hit chapter 17. Do I have anything better than shem/brut/lyca/nem/arden or tasi? Would greatly appreciate any suggestions for artefacts too. I have grace on shem, can't clear the stage to get blade for brutus yet though.
@twin hare my team is basically first 5, dont get any faction bonus but gwyn basically keeps a stun lock to backline while brutus tanks what gets through, lucius heals and shields, nemora charms and heals then finally shem owns.
alright, thanks
@torpid cosmos why Gwyn and not tasi or lyca
I think wilder trio will allow you to push further @twin hare
cant beat this any ideas?
ok thanks @light kite
tried to use arden to pin down that athalia bitch but didnt work
Is gwyneth worth building and removing anyone in one of my comps?
@light kite my gwyneth i built and does about the same damage as shem overall, this was before getting shem to lv.226
She does burn dmg, her dmg and stuns almost every bit, give her the dura eye and she'll have a speed boost which stacks with lyca buff
Hi I'm stuck at 12-12 do i need to chamge a hero in my line up or should i move them around?
Or do i just wait*
@thorny sky Whenever I go against a Gwyneth with SI in PVP, I get rekt
@torpid cosmos The reasoning for Tasi/Arden over Gwyneth is generally not due to the damage. But rather most stages you die before you get to do damage if you don't have the support core to lock down the enemies. I suppose technically Gwyn could work over Shem in some cases (esp after 201/240)
@indigo frost How fast do Hogan/Kaz die?
Hello, i am stuck at 7-20, what should i focus on? Should i reset Shemira\Belinda to raise Saveas?
@vagrant dirge Probably reset Brutus for now (Since you can't take him past level 100)
Saveas + Brutus + Arden + Nemora + 1 XX could be pretty decent for now thoug
@cerulean hamlet Thanks!
@small egret
Ira
- Lucius
Nemora - Saveas
Lyca (if you have her?
Ill try it. Yeah but theyre all only 160
level 160 is fine, mostly though you want Nemora to charm the enemy ferael.
Arden and Tasi could be good over Ira too but it depends on what you have really
Also, you should probs start working on getting an M/A shem to take over soon now too
Should I just use brutus and keep restarting till mirael throws all her fireballs on him?
@cerulean hamlet 10 seconds afyer that rest is dead soon in a few sec
Rng hates me. I just wasted soul stones n got that stupid knight next to estrilda in the pic above. Than 5 wasted faction scrolls on greens like wtf
If lucius ults before he dies you can use him over Brutus
But that stage isn't a great nemora stage. You'd rather want Arden in that stage @light kite
Probably at the top to snare estrilda
God damn it, looks like I really should ascend and make an arden again
@indigo frost Hm, maybe try
Tasi
- Thoran
Lyca - Saveas
Arden (put one in crystal)
Yeah i left my nara a legendary and got shem to ascended asap, but i have fodder for turning nara into mythic+ or baden, dunno which i should go for
Ferael if possible but if you can't then Nara >>>> Baden
I think i only have 1 fera
Nara is way more worth than Baden then since Baden has basically no utility outside of guild hunts
Oh nvm i lied, dumb game hasnt given me any ferael at all
😂 RIP
@light kite Yeah, Arden is really useful up to like 23 and for some stages there too.
Though I digress a non-completely ascended Arden could probably be fine at ch20 though generally his ascensions matter a bit up to late 21
Given me ton of everything but no fera
@cerulean hamlet Need to wait for tomorrow for room in crystal at least
Thanks for help fish after a few trys i swapped arden for kaz cauae he died in like 3 sec and i won
Nice! 🙂
21-52 help
18-37 any suggestion
@harsh frost get nemora in the middle to charm ferael before he haunts, get lyca in too if necessary
@light kite i will try that
@harsh frost You'll have to reset until it happenhs
Thanks
@lone shoal
Nemora
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Tasi
@light kite nemora in the middle and what about the rest 😂
That's not enough? Well, lyca if you don't get charm off before haunt. Still need shem. Not sure about the rest because I don't use rowan or nara, but whichever is best of luc, brutus, rowan, nara. @harsh frost
@pale kettle How did you do 23-18?
@harsh frost
Nara
-------lucius
Nemora
-------brutus
Shemira
^ try that
Nemora
- Shemira
Tasi - Brutus
Lyca
@pale kettle
Probs hope that Lyca dodges Athalia hits so good dodge gear would be pretty important
Like cinder said retry until ferael haunts his team thnx to nemora charm, if haunt is faster swap nara out for lyca
@pale kettle
Any Suggestions? Every combo I try is seeming to die before Shemira can ult
I'll try
@light kite nemora charmed that light bearer hero not fereal
you gotta keep retrying till she does
mmmmh, not entirely sure then. If it happens consistently LBs might be better but I'm not too familiar with that (levels too ofc but there's only so much you can do about that)
@tiny echo
Shemira
-----brutus
Lyca
-----lucius
Saveas
Try that :o
No luck with that 😦 Shemira just manages to get her ult off then dies 😂
Ive just steamrolled through stage 15 in like half an hour...these suckers though are hitting me like a truck...most of my heroes never even make it to ult...any suggestions plz?
@light kite thank you the rest of the chapter was too easy
@tiny echo swap lyca and shem? O .o if nothing u should try a odd method
Brutus
-----lyca
Shemira
-----Saveas
Lucius
They will run forward and buy time for shem
@dry timber
Arden/Tasi (Tasi if she doesn't banish Ferael, Arden if she does)
- Shemira
Nemora - Saveas/Brutus
Lyca
@torpid cosmos perfect that did the trick! Thank you!
Yw :3
@cerulean hamlet yeah Brutus seemed to be the key, I guess Im overlooking him too much cause of his rarity being lower, thank you for help
I need help on 18-32. Been stuck for weeks now
@thorn tapir
@jovial jolt
Try
Rowan
---- Shemira
Rosaline
---- Lucius
Arden
Have Silvina target Rowan
@copper moon thank youuu
@jovial jolt if what holiday suggested doesnt work try grabbing the silvina with nara to keep it occupied for a while
You guys think I should change something on my lineup?
Yeah, get rid of belinda and level up that saveas way more. Replace Khasos with Arden too
when you say "way more" how much more you think I should level him? Is lv 90 ok?
as much as you can before you're forced to lvl your other heroes
Which is lvl 120 right now I believe
Oh, ok. And what about Belinda? What you think I swap her with?
these are my current units
Umm shemira im guessing
Shemira doesn't do anything before lvl 161. I'd say the hypogean guy
She did with me, she was my first elite and always been on my team carrying
Sure, but its not as efficient is the point
My Arden is currently E+
Arden is so good for progressing. just root everything
Can anyone please help me figure this one out? Thanks!!
Anyone that could help me with a better setup currently used
Lucius tasi fawkes ulmus and saveas
1-ulmus 2-lucius
1-tasi 2-fawkes 3-saveas
Sometimes switched fawkes and saveas if that worked better
Wym? @shell hamlet
like don’t make heroes legendary until you’re able to make them L* because what if you don’t get 2 more copies of ulmus, shemira, belinda etc, you’ve essentially wasted 2 e+ fodder
Ah should have known that a little earlier
common mistake, i’ve done it too lol. i have a L estrilda that i’ve had L since like my first week of playing
😂
What do I buy with labyrinth coins?
Hero-wise it’s usually Shemira > Nemora > hero of choice
I already have a some teams... but I want some more opinions as to what a good pvp team would be with the heroes I have right now.
Vurk khasos brutus warek Numisa or Ant instead of numisa
@bronze fractal r u responding to me?-
Need help with 15-40😭
@wary crown post formation pls
Usually something like this
should i numisa or Ant in pure mauler?
I was going to say... I dont have like 3 of what he said.
Who should I take to 220 next?
@wary crown ive answered that couple times, nemora on middle to charm opposing archer, causes him to haunt his team so they lose hp and receive more damage, then you wipe them out, if ur nemora is too slow, speed her up with lyca, retry until ferael haunts his team and repeat if u fail, because its most likely just RNG at that point
@wary crown another member of this Discord was stuck on this same stage and i advised him to use a meta varient and it worked.
you also need to stop making heroes Legendary. you've wasted a lot of fodder.
Any ideas on how I could pass stage 11-24?
yea I did the same lol I messed up bad when I was a lower level
Shemira won't really be badass until she's 161+. i'd replace her with Tasi.
Ok, I'll try that
Thoughts on 15-27?
move lucius to your frontline.
He was but he is one shoted too
Currently my best gear is on the spear and shield girl, using a Brutus on loan, any suggestions, my khasos even tho he has my best mauler heavy gear still gets deleted
Put khasos in front with brutus so he would rng clear nara(s) @serene basin
Do you still have resources to level up shemira @broken moon?
Not at the moment
Sometimes its rng. I played 9-32 prolly 300 times with same lineup before I won without even losing a hero
👍
How am I supposed to beat that? Even if the wareks die, the naras literally teleport brutus to another nara and he can‘t do anything until he dies. I have seen formations of friends with literally a single A brutus but that doesn‘t work at all
You need to rng it. If khasos can kill or almost kill nara's with his 1st succession of axe throw than you should be able to clear it easily. If you can still borrow khasos try one with +10 or more and with 3ye if you can to up his critical rate @visual quiver.
The single 1 brutus is an old one and needs really big rng. Bigger than khasos 2 shots nara's with his axes.
i copied this lineup from my guildmate with merc khasos and 1 tried it
if khasos throws like 2 axes in a row half of the enemies are instantly dead
good to know. thanks guys
Think I'll avoid hard mode for a bit...
Who ever would have guessed I'd pull this off with flute boy n his kitty cat
@copper moon do you have line up for 23-26 ?
@ember bane nope
Would an E Safiya be better than antandra or nemora for this pvp setup?
Nara, not nemora lol
@lost nova Probably better than Nara.
To provide better faction bonus of 4-0 and she can survive a little more than a Nara can, considering your current level and her Ascension tier (Nara's)
Any help for this stage
Try
Arden. Arden
Brutus. >>Shemira
Shemira. Lyca(Rowan)
Lyca. >>Brutus(lyca)
Tasi. Nemora/tasi
In the 2nd comp if you use brutus as FL you can use nemora to charm ogi. All needs to root Arden and if shemira against kaz also kaz. Either way try to root both kaz and Arden.
Alternative: charm Arden so he would root his mate especially kaz and ogi @spring lily
@still oar thanks bud I'll give them a try 👍
If you can borrow A +10 khasos get him and put him in front with brutus, if not put vurk behind brutus and rng it so his poison timed with brutus' whirlwind @subtle apex
i can hire A khasos what should be other 3 heroes i use ?
Man this F237 is too hard, even when the RNG favors me and I manage to 3xUlt with Shemira (and she has Blade artefact) there's too many heals :(
Try
Luc
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi/fawkes
Or @sonic stone
Thanks ill try
Any ideas?
Doesn't really matter afaik since they are just faction bonus and khasos will deal most of damage with critical from his axe throwing which +10 will increase the odd for double throw.
Think safiya for pyramid and vurk for poison and skreg for his baby @subtle apex
@abstract mountain put nem middle back so she can charm the arden to make him root his own team, also swap tasi to position behind brut and have her def be lower than nem so she can bait the silv and tp away
Little help please, just got 5-161 yesterday
@broken egret Can't even charm Arden 🙂
Try
Arden. Arden
Brutus. >>Shemira
Shemira. Lyca(Rowan)
Lyca. >>Brutus(lyca)
Tasi. Nemora/tasi
In the 2nd comp if you use brutus as FL you can use nemora to charm ogi. All needs to root Arden and if shemira against kaz also kaz. Either way try to root both kaz and Arden.
Alternative: charm Arden so he would root his mate especially kaz and ogi @old ore
@abstract mountain you can, just keep retrying till you get the charm off
@still oar ur a legend mate. First try with the 2nd comp. I couldn't get close before, yet this time only Brutus died and the rest survived easily.
I've a lot to learn....:)
@broken egret Tasi should insta die from Silvina or she should fly away ?
@abstract mountain she probably should be able to take 1 or 2 hits and teleport away after
So needs somehow to make her tougher
@abstract mountain if you can yes, if you cant you prob want the silv to dash to nem if she can survive
Lets try 🙂
@still oar alright thank you, comp2 worked
someone help on mauler floor 60 the 4 lucius 1 thane stage :/
@oak lance Just get a merc warek or something
Can someone help me with 15-40
@broken egret I think I have to waait for better items. Nemora dies too fast (she can stand longer than Tasi but can't charm Arden)
@oak lance merc either warek/or high tier khasos both should be able to do it
@alpine lark The general strat would be
Arden
Shemira
Nemora (charm ferael)
Brutus (tanky equivalent)
Lyca
But since you don't have a M Shemira... maybe you can use something with Belinda dps, rosaline/rowan or both to support and tanky frontline.
@broken egret What duras works best on Nemora?
@abstract mountain i mostly use something like the grail(forgot name). But personally dont care too much about her relic, feel like its pretty much all about my other units having the good one, she just gets what i have left over
Coz I was wondering if I can speed up charm somehow
@abstract mountain ye the only thing i thnk can speedup her charm is the call, but feel thats still more useful on tasi.
You shouldnt need speed on the charm, you should be plenty fast with the lyca speed boost.
Also giving her better boots can help
True - I will keep trying. Changed some items and Tasi now can escape. Now Arden has to be charmed
@abstract mountain ye the charm is just RNG, but when she is direcly facing him, it shouldnt be all that bad
@fading cipher i dont have arden
Try
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Lyca
Arden @vivid knot
Well it's gonna be hard rng be with the power diff.
I am not sure. Probably will buy survivability but get time out @vivid knot
wrizz
@broken egret Thank u! I did it 😄
nice gz
help
Try swap Arden and nemora's positions and charm ankhira @unkempt parcel
@still oar brutus and that skelly is at least full hp
@unkempt parcel any chance you have another tank in there somewhere like lucius/brutus?
@broken egret i wish i had, opened elite lightbearer card wishing for it, got the drunk guy
Any suggestions on 13-39? Been stuck on this and tried many combinations over the last 5 hours 😂
How do i break this? Everyone gets oneshot and shemira gets charmed and later bursted
My team got instant destroy lol
Nemora. Nemora
Shemira. >>>Luc/brutus
Rowan. Lyca
Lyca. >>>Shemira
Arden. Arden
Charm estrilda and root grezhul @tiny echo
You absolute god first try no problem
Level you shemira up first before put some resources more in to khasos
Fawkes.
Lyca
RowanShemira
Nemora/arden..
If you use nemora Charm Arden so he will root kaz. If you can resonate Arden that it will be less rng since you only need to root kaz and arden.
There's other comp if you can resonate Arden @tall stump
Yea im getting everyone to 160 so i can push shemira
Any ideas?
Nemora. Tasi/nemora
Brutus. >>>Lyca
Lyca. Rowan(shemira)
Shemira. >>>Shemira(brutus)
Arden. Arden
Root kaz and Arden and charm either ogi or nemora @pale kettle
Which stage is that @abstract mountain?
I think
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi(nemora)
Brutus
Nemora(tasi)
21-44
@tall stump yea lmao
@still oar my team died before Arden even root them lol
Nop 😭
A sec let me check other comps
Arden roots before nemora charms ive tried over 40 times
@tall stump he will always root first since the enemy team has Lyca and you don’t
But i do
Ogi is too op :/
23-10 Seirus destroys my Shem > team gets melted
The prob is shemira cant frontline kaz just wrecks her
Maybe i just gotta wait and lvl
generally for those wilder stages shem does best across from kaz
you want her to generate energy without taking too long
How to defeat this stage?
@mystic harness is the big guy immune to cc or not?
@mystic harness thats why im asking, if you can cc him its easy, just put in arden/nem to charm or root him in the mean time you can go kill him
Will try
22-44, any ideas? Do i just go heavy cc with wilders and try to rng my way through?
I replaced my team with 2 wilders. And they all got 1 shot. 😂 😂
Help pls?
There's no way I can do this right?
@errant minnow well not with that comp. You might be able to get close with a comp taht also has cc. You need to cc the 2 ardens to make sure they dont root if you want to win this. So i would advise using both arden and nem in top and bottom back to charm 1 arden and root the other
@broken egret ty I will try however I usually struggle to root before they do for some reason
@errant minnow with your lyca you should definetly be faster than the enemy.
Another thing that helps is having good boots
or even giving call if really needed
@errant minnow ye blade or call
Mauler tower floor 50
You should be able to do it
Make sure you have the best gear and artifacts equipped and try switching positions around
Brutus is CC ed the whole fight, he can't do anything
@devout idol you have call on brut?
@broken egret ya
Maybe try khasos in position 5
I even tried with grace
@devout idol i would say put him in front ot the estrilda
To Target nemora
@devout idol ah nvm i see the problem, he gets coffined right?
@devout idol but ye i would say put him in front of the estrilda and after that its pretty much all up to RNG. You kinda want to get lucky to the point where he ults and kills 2 i think. that should allow him to ult quite soon again
@broken egret yeah, but Khasos isn't "flinching" Fawkes with his axe cuz he doesn't have enough damage
Only thing I can think of is to downgrade brutus's attack so he doesn't get coffined lol
But then he'd probably be too weak to carry
Can I some help and advice on who the develope and the set up. Currently on stage 10-12
which one is 10-12?
Lyca Brutus Arden Tasi Nem is pretty good meta team, sub out Sav for Shem later on
@spring forum this is the right channel for questions like those..
The key here is to charm the ferael..
do you have a nemora?
Oof sorry, didn’t know this channel existed
Something like a
shem
grez
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
might work
here’s what I’ve got to work with
just repeat stage until you charm the ferael
otherwise its very unlikely your shem can do work
@novel adder I believe tasi will banish the ferael, arden might be better if he has a slot in his crystal.
@spring forum I just noticed you're running 2 carries, generally not recommended. I'd run shem, lyca, nemora, tasi and lucius/brutus
who’s the other carry?
Belinda
@clear saddle haha shows how long i have not done 15-40 @.@
just trying to make sure 😅
Man I have a lot to learn 
I’ll try that last one, brb
@spring forum it is not that bad, its just find how to counter certain units. Units like fereal cause a lot of trouble quite often, so thats why people konw you can just charm him with nem to win
^^ its battle experience.. stages tend to have repeats at higher stages..
Should I use a lvl 120 L shemira or a lvl 120 E+ ira
Shem
Grez
Nemora
Ulm
Lyca
didn’t work
so I switch Lyca for Tasi and it worked
Many thanks
I need some general line-up advice. Basically I don't know what I'm doing other than pushing Shem
Should i replace anyone for roseline
@urban rover there are 2 main meta options you could focus on/build towards.
You can either go for a LB comp, however this does take a full investment where you should be spending pretty much all your scrolls on LB, building the core which would be lucius/bel/rowan mostly
The other option is staying with shem and building the wilder backline (tasi/nem/lyca)
In your case your LB are looking pretty good already so really both options could work pretty good for you and its just up 2 you
@urban rover There are also a few guides in the pinned messages in the #classic-questions channel, those might help you too. But other than focusing shem, you just need to wait for fodder to get her to a higher ascension and also bring your crystal level up.
@broken egret Thanks. So what I've done so far is stick myself between the two. Ideal! Thanks though - I'll have to figure out what I wanna do next
@clear saddle thanks again - I'll have a look
@urban rover also being between the 2 isnt bad, you can also make a comp with shem as carry and LB supports and tank, there are a lot of options still open
Whats the best team for campaign I could make with these heroes
@pale kettle depends a lot on the stage you are facing
Im on 9-35 my main problem is killing vedan
@pale kettle i dont know stage out of my head. But it seems like you are missing a carry/dps unit in your lineup.
You could a seaves, but feels it kinda late for that at this point.
You could also level up shemira and use her for now
@broken egret doing God's work out here my dude
@broken egret is shemira at 120 better than ira?
I had 120 shemira in my team earlier but it didnt look like she was doing that much dmg
@pale kettle hard to say, however i would advise you not to make her 120, but have her as high level as possible, so have her 140 instead of the fawkes
This level is driving me insane. Anyone has an idea?
@pale kettle i would even reset the rowan, you wanna have the units with the highest ascension leveled up. and the lower ascension units can be leveled in the crystal.
@rose ember thats like 23-24?
true so I should get all units to lvl 120 right?
That's 23-24 yep
@pale kettle ye thats what you want, but you also want to try and have your carry higher than your other units.
have you read the guide in the #classic-questions channel?
@rose ember ye lots of people getting stuck there from what ive seen, horrible stage.
Ill try and look if i can find a solution, gimme a sec
@broken egret yeah i have
@rose ember try swap tasi and brut
@dark tundra tried it 20 quick times tasi died 100% of the times to vareks throw... Might be because she is only l+
Try a Merc tasi. If she survive Brut will forward for warek
Will try. Also tried nara top to stop tasi from banishing Shem also doesn't do the trick seirus just tears my shemira apart
@lofty depot probably just too underdeveloped to do much aside from wait and level save then the rest slowly is what it's feeling like
@winter cloud I would replace Estrilda and Hendrick with Arden and Hogan. Put Hogan front and Arden back. For Numisu I would put Lorsan for now
Alright I'll pop Hogan on the crystal then and give it a shot
Hogan is a good hero to make L+
I can make him epic and then + when I get the daily today but unsure on who is okay to use as ascension fodder
Actually I could do it right now but would burn all my rare in his group
Pls help
20-37
@dark tundra lyca had to solo seirus but it worked! Ty for the tip the 5* tasi did it
@brisk heart Hey there! How are you doing today? 🙂
I'd say you should try to swap out Nara for Hendrik, he can deny any damage coming from Khasos and heal himself gradually if too low, no to mention he's very good against Silvina too!
Call for Shemira, Grace for Lucius, Eye for Saveas. ^^
@pale kettle Hey there ^^
Try putting Athalia instead of Brutus and put her in Rowan's spot so she will disable enemy Tasi's banish.
Formation should look like so :
Rowan
Lyca
Athalia
Shemira
Tasi
Best of luck ~
Thanks Niky while it stops the tasi vanish I still get rooted than charmed than banished lol it’s like a cycle
@pale kettle Your shemira has a sheer chance to dodge Ulmus' roots, if you'll give her call she might plow through Ulmus like he's nothing, with enough ultimates loaded in ^^
I’ll try that thanks
Thoughts on 15-40?
@trail wraith Does Tasi banish ferael?
If no:
Tasi
- Brutus
Nemora - Shemira
Lyca
If she does then Arden over Tasi
Lucius is so good
Ya banish ferael
@rare fulcrum
Tasi/Arden
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Nemora
could probably work
then replace Tasi with Arden @trail wraith
I just can’t put heal Ulmas and nemora
I’ll try thanks
Nah lads nothing working
Ferael is so op I actually hate the dude his spirts are yikes
It working I pass so many lvl with this
Yeppa
Owwwww a show me all of your heros
Any tips?
Isabella is op as hell
Try this lineup
Shemira
Shemira
Shemira
Shemira
Shemira
@viscid stirrup very funny 🙃
@burnt sleet
Nemora
----Brutus
Shemira
----Lucius
Lyca
^ Try that if Arden keeps winning over charm then use Nara instead to pull Arden and keep it from using vines
@rare fulcrumtry swapping your ferael for nemora and charm opposing one
Try swapping lucius and brutus
If that doesnt work then try
Nemora
----Brutus
Shemira
----Lyca
Lucius
He run in and shield up to get energy for everyone's shields most likely @burnt sleet
nvm, just cleared it feelsgoodman
Kay
@torpid cosmos Any ideas?
tried to get her to jump tasi and to put in brutus so he can survive, but doesn't work
Okay I’ll try that out
What i did is i put shem in front of warek, like umm
Tasi
----Lyca
Lucius
----Shemira
Nemora
Incase enemy shem ults before nemora could charm it and it will destroy their team
My shem survived and warek made sure to keep giving it energy so that was the downfall, lucius kept shielding to keep her alive
@light kite
That worked. thanks
Yw
Dang Lucius does a bit better with lyca up front but he gets stunned until he dies.
Yay, now against a full wilder team...
Is it possible to charm Arden before he roots, if we both have a lyca
Yeah that troll thing is annoying hmm put lucius on top and brutus on bottom behind lyca? @burnt sleet
No, nemora's animation lasts longer @light kite
God damn it. Maybe I should try Arden here
Which stage is that?
It's similar to @burnt sleet stage. Arden works somewhat well when he can root the other arden before he roots
Oh this one?
Oh thats ones a couple before
Ulmus wrecks if I give him enough time to ult
Yeah idk whats up with the tree able to ohko all
Help pleaseeeee
@pulsar tapir Remove lucius for Tasi, and swap places with shem
that was my lineup i believe, and I placed Nemora at the bottom so she chaarmed saveas
Restart a few times and you should get past it, I hope
@light kite
Lyca
----lucius
Shemira
----brutus
Ferael
Try that
If that doesn't work, you can try replacing brutus instead and placing shem where he was.
I managed to beat it mitsumi, but jesus christ I have to restart a lot of times to do so recently
I'm already stuck on 20-37 again
Aww Dx 20-52 is hell just saying
Playing against half my own lineup except they have double my rating
Yeah campaign is unfair lol
@torpid cosmos Tasi keeps banishing shem
Can't deal out enough damage this way. Need a hero who purges that shit
Ahh :o yeah for me my gwyneth deals more dmg by the time shem ults and normally i win that way
She stuns aswell and burns appart from her own damage
@light kitedo you have nara?
Just elite, apparently Fawkes can remove buffs
It removes debuffs from ur team and buffs from enemy like shields, and its fine aslong as u keep the tasi occupied, unless u mean its ur own tasi doing it
I'll try putting fawkes in crystal, let's see how it goes
K careful, hes a squishy agi
Help me please
Is that floors?? The power jumped up 140k.. @pulsar tapir
Scoot lyca down, remove tasi and place ferael in midddle
Nah, even with Fawkes it's fucked, it takes him too long to ultimate
@pulsar tapir Did you try what I said?
Oh, that's a different lvl lol
@junior stratus i mean theres really not much u can do except throw one of the ulmus behind u with warek and hope your team makes it into broccoli, one by one
@pulsar tapir get silv to jump tasi, I'm surprised you use brutus and lucius together so much. I generally only use 1 of them. Would recommend that too in this one, get nemora in to charm the one dealing most dmg to you
Or just nara silv over 😂
I dont use Nara, I gotta bait her always
I just use her for the beat up animation to occupy, just like i just use nem for charm and lyca for speed
Besides nara is the only that can bypass brutus immunity
Who should I use for soren
@worldly cedar
Baden, estrilda, shemira, lucius, grezhul, ull get faction boost and grez+baden summon mobs to distract, lucius shields prevent charm, and estrilda reduces dmg plus buffs attack
Thank you so much!!
@torpid cosmos Fawkes and Lucius can too no? luc with 30 sig I mean
@light kite can do what? o .o
@torpid cosmos remove Last Gasp, brutus immunity
I dont think so :o
I've read that the luc sig 30 can
Sais majprity not all, nara sais "ignores immunity"
oh, there's been confusion about that. I think Fawkes also removes it https://old.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/bvg9qs/can_fawkes_counter_brutus_invulnerability/
Interesting cuz ive been killed by a brutus on arena before and fawkes didnt do shit Dx
well, you gotta time the ultimate which is the one that removes buffs to be after brutus' last gasp
Welp, i prefer not moving a finger and watch auto battle lol
I need so help on floor 290
Hey guys, Any ideas? 13-18
Sorry I meant 13-38*, I get wiped before Tasi sleeps or Arden places second root
Put dura's call on tasi and try several times
@dark current actually working better than duras call on my Shemira thanks
@dark current worked thanks man
👌
Stuck on 18-36. Any ideas? Shem just can’t get her ult off in time. She has eye
@graceful hearth few things you can try:
Front: brutus, shemira
Back: arden, lyca, tasi
can also do back: tasi, lyca, nemora
Any ideas? I’m getting destroyed 16-40
@sonic night got a few for you
front: shemira, lucius/brutus
back: lyca, tasi, nemora
front: lyca, brutus
back: nemora, shemira, arden or arden, shemira, nemora
front: brutus, shemira
back: nemora,lyca, arden or arden, lyca, nemora
@sonic night try this lineup, nvm the enemy, its the stage after I beat 16-40, reset until arden roots kaz
Thx a ton guys!! @silent wraith @upbeat moat on to chapter 17!
congrats man 🙂
I should be using Lyca in front row with Shem then instead of Tasi?
u shud be able to get to ch20 quickly with your team
depends, sometimes lyca better cause she can dodge a lot; but sometimes tasi is better cause she can tele away
I see thx again 
Been stuck on this stage for like a week, really don't know what to do. Can y'all help?
These are my heroes
thats what I used, check description in YT video what I did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF2bFZB2L4
Hard stuck
you lack damage. Try Belinda on back, and make fawkes higher
try to get another cheap lightbearer to get fawkes up, then up him with himself. he is a nice carry
@spare stratus
Should I swap out arden or lyca?
@willow spruce Try putting nemora and tasi together in that stage instead of the grezhul
this is what i would try
but problem is that fawkesi is lvl 1, so wait a bit or try diffrent combos ^^
@balmy roost ok, I think you mean thane here from your picture. I'll give it a try. Thanks
oh, yeah
I always mistake the champs, since i don't care about the names but the abilities 😛
23-24 @upbeat moat
please post the stage formation and your hero list
Hey @idle aspen thanks a lot, managed to complete floor 321 of the tower because of your screenshot 🙌🏼
Should I focus on levelling brutus first or should I level everyone? Also is this agood team comp?
level saveas first, hes your primary source of dmg
optimising team comps doesnt matter that early in the game. just get levelling and youll see powerspikes as your heroes unlock abilities. it doesnt take long
Anything I can do with my formation here? Nearly kill the Thane with that formation. The lvl 1s help slow down the ults, I do manual but the shileds still come back up too fast, or do I just need to level crystal
Would another Merc be more useful?
A strong Safiya would be a decent alternative too if you can get that
@tulip matrix Maybe you could try the classic core?
Tasi
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Arden
Where your game plan would be to get Arden to root thane after his leap
Help please.
Change luci for tasi and nemora for arden
A merc warek works
Cool I'll apply
@rare fulcrum just level up ur team, equip it with mythic gear and u should do fine
Careful with that thane, he ohkos with his ult
Yea
I hate that thane I really like I've got all 180 units and thane just slowly kills then
@tulip matrix try this, nara will cc fawkes so he dont coffin shem, nemo charm seirus, reset until nemo charm seirus, tasi needs call
nemora-tasi/arden-lyca back doesnt work, neither does @silent wraith 's formation because thane manages to Ult and devastate my team
@pulsar tapir this is the line up that did it for me, what you want is Arden to root their Kaz and Arden and Brutus to tank long enough, if you get a Rowan ult off and if Shem can ult twice you pretty much win it,
Yoyoyoy
So I got orthoros
And I have hogan lucius Thane
And fereal is 1 carry 1 assassin and 3 tanks good?
I'm also thinking of getting nemora fro store
Rn I have 30 k labrynth tokens and it opens today so I can mabey get 15 k more
@high loom I feel like you may have too many tanks. The sweet spot for tanks is usually 2 or 1. If you use only one tank the other frontliner is someone who dodges a lot or has a lot of sustain like lyca or nara. I would say to find someone to replace hogan here soon, probably a DPS or another healer
@high loom lucius thane nemora fereal and 1 dps wouldnt be bad but it may be worth trying to see if you can create a 3 faction bonus for the extra stats. (3 wilders) for example
Stuck on this stage for quite a while - any tips? Thanks 😊
@jovial thunder If you have spot in your crystal, maybe try incorporating silvinia? You retain your faction bonuses and she will make isabella easier to kill. I am assuming isabella is doing most of the damage against your team.
yeah she is instantly killing my mage :/
You can probably also swap hogan out for gwyn and put vedan frontline for extra damage if you need it.
swap hogan?
swap out, replace him
who is being jumped on by the assassin ?
side advices but at this point in the game you better be building Saveas, he cap at 160 but he will carry you until he reach that point, tho he's only E so you can work on getting him to E+ in the next days as i suppose he'll be a bit weak for this fight right now.
yeah idk how to make him E+ i havent gotten anything to upgrade him with
like no other champs
also for the future, don't ascend to L if you do'nt have the duplicates you need to immediately ascend to L+ Lucius is excellent and it's your first so it's not really a big deal but if you're unlucky and donc get dupes, he can be stuck at L for a long time
yeah i dont have dupes :/
it's just a matter of time, you're early i nthe game, but if you have too many L units, you'll use all your fodders without really making the team progress
Also about Saveas, you'll just need more copies of R (blue) saveas to build a dupe E saveas, it will be easy with a bit of patience, it's a common unit that's why he's good to build early on
as for your current team, i dunno if it can beat the stage right now but maybe try to identify who is being jumped on by the assassin, put it on the front and put hogan right behind, ideally if hogan can stun her you may have enough time to cast Lucius and vedan ultimate
i doubt it works tho, you probably just need to wait a bit until you have a slightly stronger team
Any suggestions if been on this stage for over a week and thinking of deleting this game because of it
have you tried using Nemora?
@candid stirrup Can you provide us information on who is dealing the most damage to your comp currently as well as who silvinia is jumping?
i'm assuming Numisu.
@candid stirrup you can probably take out saveas and numisu for your shemira and belinda, with nemora in place of gwyneth too. see if that helps.
Any suggestions on Wilder Tower 128? Thanks!
@sand rune swap eironn and gorvo
if gorvo doesnt do well in that spot, swap him with lyca
Any ideas on this? Trying to push through chapter 14 so I can get the Brutus from the rewards 😛
@tiny echo This one is tough, maybe Shemira(1) Kaz(2) nemora(3) lyca(4) saveas(5) or Kaz(1) shemira(2) nemora(3) lyca(4) saveas(5)
@sand rune I would advise against putting your eironn in a position that will pull skreg, he gets hard countered by skreg. put eiron in (5) and lyca in (2) and keep the rest the same.
Yeah this ones difficult, both of those line ups seem to get vaporised 😂
I figured, try moving shemira to (2) and add brutus to (1) instead of having kaz?
you may need to get some lucky RNG on nemora's charm onto brutus .. maybe even on ankhira
That doesn’t seem to be working either, it’s the Morvus which is doing the most damage it seems
I’ll keep trying it and hope the RNG gods give me some luck!
You can also try to charm morvus if it seems like brutus can hold the enemy brutus.
Got the charm on the Morvus and did it, thanks for the help!
What team would work best for me to get through the 13th chapter?
awesome @tiny echo !! I am glad it worked out
@uncut crow Try something like Lucius(1) shemira(2) fawkes(3) silvinia(4) estrilda(5) or lucius(1) estrilda(2) fawkes(3) silvinia(4) shemira(5)?
The Fawkes is a mercenary, so I wouldn’t be able to him a lot.
Ah, didnt see that merc symbol. you can use tasi instead then to banish isabella and/or nemora as well to induce more CC
Alright thank you. 🙂
Who should I be using in guild battles?
imo, Lucius, Saveas, Belinda, Lyca, and Rosaline. or some varient.
I'll give it a try!
that's for Wrizz btw, i'm not so good on soren so I don't wanna say anything in case it would impair your damage output. @lapis wharf
For general progression I got Arden to 141 so I could get the triple vines. Should I reset him and have Savaes 141 for the extra dmg?
I'm so new I don't really even scratch guild bosses anyways 😂
Anyone able to help im just like bad in general at this game
sure, what's up?
@pale kettle got a new record ! Thanks 😄
Help pls
hey no problem. just a general rule, don't use heroes that are primarily CC on guild hunts since, well there's not really a crowd to control lol
@final star my guild mate has screenshots of all the stages he's passed, let me check
@final star
Help me please
stage?
19-38
@pulsar tapir did you try my suggestion from earlier?
this is the line up that did it for me, what you want is Arden to root their Kaz and Arden and Brutus to tank long enough, if you get a Rowan ult off and if Shem can ult twice you pretty much win it,
That was my lineup for 19-38 but they are the exact same stage just level.differences
It took me alot of tries with those levels but some good RNG got me through it
Lol that is 19-5
Yh I noticed the level differences but they are exactly the same enemy team, try that line up
I won and thank you really that line up will help me a lot against these stupid wilders
Yh they are some the toughest stages when they pop up in campaign, 19-38 is a big wall for alot of people but that line up should get you through it, trying out different formations even if they are low Ascensions is the key sometimes, that and RNG
Whats the best lineup to use for campaign im stuck on 6-20
@rocky cloak if you show 6-20 specific enemy lineup we can assist you better on beating the stage. For a good lineup in general for you in campaign.. I see a hogan thoran frontline and Belinda saveas mira backline that can be pretty well rounded and it Includes faction bonus!
@willow eagle
Yeah thats the lineup im using and I have my belinda behind my thoran
Well instead of mirael im using ira
So I'm stuck on 6-35. Here is the lineup...
Ad here is my hero selection
Any suggestions? My front line gets destroyed and then my team just dies
@gray granite Maybe take out thane and put in tidus (once you put him on your crystal) for the health and atk bonus maybe? Would give a little boost.
Hey @dim hollow would it make sense to reset Shemira right now to pump up Tidus and so run Golus, Tidus, Saveas, Nemora and Belinda?
Wouldnt hurt to try only 20 gems
If you arent using her for a while it would be worth I feel.
@pale kettle 22-50
@rocky cloak you can use IRA as well, it may take a couple of tries, may I suggest leveling your saveas as the carry instead of belinda though? Saveas is a hyper carey all throughout early game into mid game (lv 160)
Hi guys any recommendations to clear this stage?
Help with this one?
Help with 14-39?
@naive summit brutus 1 lucius 2 nemora 3 saveas 4 arden 5? Try that
@glad cypress may I suggest you reset mirael and transfer those levels to shemira? And possibly the same from silvinia to lucius? Should make this stag easier with those 2.
@tiny echo Lyca 1 brutus 2 tasi 3 (banish khasos) nemora 4 (charm ankhira hopefully) shemira 5. If no tasi then try arden?
@willow eagle only reason why I didn't is because Silvina/Mirael are Legendary+ while Shemira/Lucius are Legendary
Yeah I don’t have Tasi sadly, I’ll give it a try but I think I might be under levelled at this point! I’m surprised I made it this far 😂
@glad cypress I see, yeah i understand your logic. However ascended tier heros also have their 4th ability instead of 3 (legendary tier heros)
That makes sense!
Yeah that didn’t work I’m afraid! Everything is dying in 1-3 hits so I feel I may need to level everything up a little bit before I can beat this level, if you have any other suggestions however I’d be open to try, i really want that Brutus to get mine to Mythic 😂
Any suggestions for wilders 100?
borrow a friends OP hero
Resonate eironn @visual quiver
Do something like
Kaz
Tasi
Eironn
Lyca
Nemora @visual quiver
I used ulmus instead of kaz but that is optional the dealers are your A lyca and eironn. Eironn probably will die mid battle with warek almost does and 1/2 health but lyca should be able to finish both
This one eironn in middle his aim is to kill seirus and arden
Anyway i cam beat this faction tower?
After quite a few summons my alt characters roster is up for some changes, any suggestions on a new formation that’ll give me the bang for my buck out of what I have, I’m semi stuck in the campaign atm waiting for Shemira and Khasos upgrades from the lab. Here’s what I have and my current formation I use for basically everything
Semi stuck. Can get kinda close.. definitely need some more hero xp to get some more damage... what y’all think
@agile root meta team should work better. Backline try top to bot, tasi lyca nemora
Why won’t it let me post screen shots?
@west depot
Shem
Tasi
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Give that a try. Depends a if your gear on the tasi is good enough to tank for a sec
Shem
Tasi lyca
Nemora brutus
Or
Shem tasi
Lyca brutus
Nemora
Your rng should be nemora charming saveas
So saveas will kill that nemora or warek for you
But
Tasi will try to banish warek
Any ideas on this one, opposing Athalia murders literally everything
@loud dagger what are best relics for each guy? Atm I have call on tasi, blade on Shem, grace on Brutus
I’ve been trying to improve my team against Wrizz, any ideas?
and I just swapped out Belinda for lorsan just to give it a try
On special cases . . . Like mauler tower
You can make brut wear blade or eye
I believe youll gain more damage with bel rather than baden
Imo
^eye on Bel, Blade on shem, call on rosalina. Make sure rosalina follows shem. 3 person faction advantage is better than none
Cleared it yet, @visual quiver?
You can also try this bombastic tasi since your tasi also A although his is 240.
Dk how the dude pulled it off though, since I can't watch the video
Ima need some help it’s not even a boss stage but this golus is untoppable
Ignore golus and focus on the lower flank first. Kill saveas and mirael asap.
What other heroes at level 1 you've got down there? Might be some good CC heroes @spare briar
These guys mostley
and a fawks if you think he would help but he never coffins the guy i want
nvm i just switch my lucius and belinda and smashed it i thought id tried everything guess not
thanks though
@agile root won't Wilders backline works better?
Lock ankhira or charm her. Maybe
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca.
The enemies mostly close combatants Rowan should be good if you can control ankhira so she wouldn't control shemira and Rowan @agile root
been stuck for nearly a week on 21-4 oof any help?
@oak lance
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca.
Control kaz with whatever means
This is the only thing i can think of to work. Ive tried Rosaline and Rowan where Baden is but nothing works out. Baden dodges Athalias attacks most of the time but when she has ult she melts everything
Hey guys, teams for Wrizz and Soren?
Wrizz
Lorsan(baden for Soren)
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Rosa
Try them @sharp flame
Thanks will try them tomorrow @still oar
Need help for floor 290
I’m stuck at 18-37. Any advice?
@slender blade nemora middle back charm ferael, lyca or tasi replace fawkes.
I’ll try it, thanks :)
What other heroes do you get down there?
Thoran, nemora, lyca ? @empty plinth
Help? Vedanta literally tears my shit apart
@still oar tbh my lyca probably has the best gear, even though it's not necessarily the best by faction bonus
A sec my net is slow today. By the virtue of power alone should be do able
The other option would be put blade on lyca and make her the main dps
tbh right now my dura items are on my guild set up
but i can move them, blade is on my shemira
Can you resonate Arden?
Try
Shemira
Tasi
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Charm nemora and ulmus preferably but nemora is fine. Make lyca be the bait and shemira's the main damage dealer or try SS below. As you may see they have better main dps than you so it might need more luck @ElementalGriffin
Sorry, kept failing to upload the pics
@serene basin
beat it, had to use the 5star lv 215 merc shemira and my guild comp to beat it
👍 👍
but is there a counter to healing, for late game, and a way to stop a warek from deleting my team
Ferael's signature and +30 athalia bleed might does that
should i start using the faction scrolls on lb? since they have then next most viable team comps for what i have, right now im just waiting for fodder to ascend nemora, and ill have the trio at ascended, but i also have enough copies for gorvo to go straight to ascended, but i would need so much fodder,
If you like them yes @serene basin. Since the only left beside nemora is eironn. You can slowly build them
Gorvo is decent but you need dps try ascend eironn first
tbh im not really progressing it im getting really bored, but want to keep playing the game, its just im getting so bored that some days i dont really want to log in, because idk if ive missed something im just not getting the satisfaction, maybe its also because im really the only person in my guild that plays (i got promoted after multi other afk leaders), and like maybe 4 people play 1 time in every 3 days, maybe i should just leave and try and find a better guild, to try and get more coins, but not sure, like i just ascended 2 people in the past week, and maybe got through like 4 levels on the campaign, i also struggle grately in the lab, and cant do hard mode anymore
tbh half the time i do lab, i just collect the hero carts and experiment with new heros/comps, and thats the most fun i get at times.@still oar i desperately want to progress, but dont really want to spend money and feel like the game just stalled out hard.
@still oar Thoran isnt on my crystal, no nemoras and Elite Lyca
Some of the working line ups @empty plinth
Hold on you have khasos. Think there is one with khasos
Can you resonate even e+ you just need her to Charm seirus
ok thnx ill try them out
@still oar yes, I beat wilders 100 with my e+ eironn. now still stuck at 22-42 xd
Ah congtaz for the first part
My condolences for the 2nd part 🥀
😂
I tried every suggested formation but they all don't work at all.
they must have 4 M+ mythic gear for shemira with gb faction bonus
@void spire Just a wild guess but you could use Rowan in the middle, Fawkes where Tasi is and Brutus where Rowan is now so:
Fawkes
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Brutus.
Thanks! Well my shemira survived to get her ult off but still got rekt hard 😄
Im hardstuck here
@west finch Might be useful to replace Lucius with Brutus to soak up the damage.
Tasi
Brutus
Rosa
Shemira
Belinda
Gonna try it ty
Focus on your carry first before use the resources in others.
Try
Arden(nemora)
Shemira
Rowan
Lyca
Nemora(fawkes, tasi)
Root silvina after she jump on Rowan, make him her bait @pale kettle
Stuck 2 weeks
@scenic frost Who does tasi banish?
Shemira
You might be able to run 4 wilders, take out brutus, move lyca frontline and put arden in the back maybe?
I don’t know what to do 20-37 still stuck on this level this is the lineup that I have found to get me the most damage and 3 shem ults not sure what I’m doing wrong the ulmus one hits everyone once he ults and the nemora heals 1.2m
Seems just lacking a bit of dps. How about add Rosa for mehira
Rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi(lyca;Arden)
Can you root nemora, tasi without lyca @pale kettle?
Or mehira instead of tasi
Help?
this is what I have, what should I do for now? should I reset shem and pump it all on saveass? what team should I run to progress ch 11 or I'm simply just lacking in level right now?
@spark plover make Saveas 160, arden 141 rest 121. U can pass ch 11 to 14
@harsh frost mirror your team.
@sand kindle alright, hopefully I got enough exp lol. who should I bring as top 5?
@spark plover actually doesnt matter, just make sure they are heroes with top tier
@sand kindle how
from what I have?
Any suggestions? 14-39
@sand kindle should I just retire shem for now and use bell instead? since she buff attk
@spark plover ye for now. It hard to say what team u should use cos i was there so long time ago. I'd probably use something like this:
Arden
Saveas
Nemora
Thoran
Twins
probably change heroes/formation depend of stage
nemora and twins still E tho, can they hang with the rest?
yup
too bad u has no lyca or tasi.. so u can make some kind of early meta team
@tiny echo mate, your shemira can run you to chap 20 ez. just use meta
alright, thank you for the suggestion. I'll reset after server reset tomorrow. might aswell get the lv up quest too while at it 
@still oar the problem is the tasi she makes it so I don’t do any damage while my ult is out
Hey all, still early game I think, should I legendary Rosaline, L+ Fawkes, or ... advice appreciated. I'm on chapter 9-37
@turbid gulch fawkes is ok to make L+
You can timing it with Fawkes' ult or the chance when she is banishes or put to sleep. Does fawkes coffin her @pale kettle?
Fawkes coffins the plant thing in the back
any tips for 22-36?
@wicked pelican did u check my telegram channel? there 8 screenshots for this stage
telegram channel?
The SS of 20 37 all use 201+ shemira afaik. Below that probably rng it so she didn't do it when banished or clear the banish with Fawkes' @pale kettle
Ah ok thanks for tip I’ll try rng until I get 201
@wicked pelican im not sure i can post it here:
I used
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi.
Start the fight by charming estrilda @wicked pelican
Thanks @sand kindle
Try nara Arden put Rowan in the middle and rng it so nemora charms luc instead of Belinda. Or just you use Arden
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Thoran
Arden @clever patio
Can Arden root first
He gets 2 roots off for some reason 😂
He gets 3 off now. Then the nimisus just fucks him over @still oar
Does the team stand a chance, like if rng is right they can do it
@clever patio?
@pale kettle try:
Arden
lyca
Tasi
Shem
Nemora
It better if your main damage dealer is overleveled. 200 shemira should better. And if you want to 181 I suggest nemora with 200 shemira, 181 nemora you can get to 19 36 in my case.
The thing here is to CC Arden since his CC really hindering your team
Try
Fawkes(tasi)
Lyca
Rowan(nemora)Shemira
Arden(rowan?)
Or
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Make sure that Arden can root Arden fisrt
Do you have athalia
@pale kettle?
@still oar I do not have athalia
To bad ig you have to rely on Arden to control arden
How in the world do i beat this, once ferael haunt my heros keep getting interupted so they never attack anymore or ultimate
Nevermind, beat it, had to front gwyneth to stun them and charm arden to keep them from haunting, until shem used her ult, then it didnt matter
Need help with wilder tower level 118
@sharp hornet have u tried setting nemora on the middle? Perhaps that saveas can attack and almost kill their team? If not then not sure how you can beat it
@torpid cosmos I have tried it. Issue is if I put eiroon up top he sucks saveas in and then she won't charm him. It just runs out of time as I can't do enough damage. Usually Nemo, tasi and eironn left.
Yeah even if u get him to the back sides he sucks in.. middle back doesnt but you kinda need nemora on that
@sharp hornet have u tried seirus, the fish guy, it seems he has stun power and dmg reduction
@torpid cosmos I have but not sure who to swap for tried all 4 of the supporting cast and no combos work
Well i mean.. 4 support and one attacker isnt really going to help :o ever tried kaz's dps and that tree for extra stunning? I heard kaz is pretty strong, not sure since i never used her
on 17-6 any suggestions on who to get up to m/m+ or maybe ascension
@summer hatch
Who does Tasi banish?
Also does Lucius survive long enough to ult? if no -> swap him with Brutus
Woul you guys help me out with a team. I'm kinda stuck and don't know to who to focus. This is a picture of my time. I'm staying on a L+ fodder for Light and grave. Thank you.
@cerulean hamlet lyca and sometimes he does
@carmine orbit Probably work on Shemira for GBs, then Nemora to M+ for wilders because she is guaranteed A
But you should focus on Shem. Otherwise looks pretty good I think
@summer hatch Okay, then I think your current comp can do it if he survives long enough + nemora charms enemy arden before he roots so he roots his own team.
If that's inconsistent give brutus some tries and see how that goes too
@twilit verge
Arden/Nemora + Lyca + Tasi backline
Saveas + Brutus frontline should work pretty well
Focus on building Shemira then replace Saveas with Shemira once she hits level 161
I could push Brutus to mythic but I’d sacrifice a vurk
Nah, no need to push him up for now. It's just for his immunity
this is my stuck mission rn
You need your own Arden or smth similar for a stage like that
I may have used mehira there to get lucius shield earlier so people dont get rooted
@carmine orbit
Nemora
- Shemira
Lyca - Lucius/Brutus
Arden
would probably be your best bet. But you really want a M/M+ Shemira
yeah, that's your biggest weakness right now
Stuck here. Any tips?
@eternal pecan besides swaping nem and lyca?
Yw
For level cap sure, but what you should do is take Saveas out of crystal and level him up as much as you can using him as your carry
Completely replace Brutus?
Nah, still keep using him, maybe something like Saveas - Brutus - Lucius - Rosaline + any LB could work until you pull more units
Ah shit here we go again, help please ?
Should I reset estrilada till i at least get her to legendary?
hey guys, that's my current line-up, I have 49k tokens, should I still go for nemora first?
@pine cedar Probably, reset her then see who you can ascend after that. Maybe work on an Arden too though as he'll be very useful
@timid drift shemira for the ascended first
@timid drift You should focus on Shemira from lab store
ty guys
@harsh frost
Nemora
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Arden
Nemora -> charm arden so he roots his own team
Uh, I would only reset estrilda for now. Maybe also rosaline if/when you start working on arde @pine cedar
hm... I'll ask for an advice as well
@cerulean hamlet shemira gives arden silent so he doesnt root them 🤦♂️
@harsh frost Give it a few more tries I think, then if it still doesn't work I'll see what you could change up. Since as far as I can see that comp should work
this is my lineup, I'm thinking to now level lower levled heroes up somewhat, or should I just go with saveas?
Good?
feels like lower leveled ones are really handicapped, as I was neglecting them
@cerulean hamlet the worst part is that shemira dies after two hits
@harsh frost I suppose you can try Tasi over Nemora and arden at the top then. That's also an alternative
@pine cedar Yup, just work on getting Saveas to 160 firs now though ^^
Should I use belinda fir level cap as well
@native trout Just go with Saveas, he's the most useful of them. Also pull Shemira/Hogan out of crystal once you run up against level caps as you will want E+ and higher to go above 100
@pine cedar Yeah, since she's already L she's at least guaranteed 140 so just keep leveling her normally. You don't necessarily need to use her but her ascension iss useful at your stage
You should... get an arden in your crystal preferrably
But
Nemora
- Brutus/Lucius
Lyca - Shemira
Tasi
Might work too
Though might want/need to move around the frontliner positions depending on how they do there
i have a rare arden would that do?
thanks
Uh, it probably could. But he won't be able to take a hit yet. I'd strongly suggest you work on getting him L+ but yeah, having at least an arden will help
@cerulean hamlet nothing changet still get smashed in less than 10 seconds
Eh, if that still doesn't work I'm not sure what you can do other than keep trying. Evt shem 201 would help but otherwise your gameplan is basically Arden to lock down the enemies/Nemora to charm enemy arden to root his own team then hope Shem ult cleans up
What kind of merc should I look for against this team
yeah him not being able to take a hit kinda seems like a waste
@pale kettle A nemora to charm their ferael (your own will work for that) + arden to root the vedans (still your own if you have them)
So merc could be a good Lyca or Lucius I think
Thanks I’ll try
Help for 21-51?
@plush gate Maybe try resetting brutus and go level 240 shem + 200 brutus
For that stage in particular maybe
Arden
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Tasi
Should work I think
Struggling for a few days now. 15-12. Any ideas would be appreciated.
@carmine cloud
Tasi
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Arden
@carmine cloud or try Shem, Brutus, Lucius, Rowan, Belinda
@cerulean hamlet Ill keep trying with this, but for now Tasi just dies without really doing anything.
@zinc stump Tried this before. Without cc, i just get obliderated.
Tasi could do with a bit more RNG so she doesn't jump into enemy team and dies probs
@cerulean hamlet I don’t have an Arden on my circle, any other suggestions for that spot?
Uh, get an arden (any rarity should do at that stage, higher is better ofc but just with decent boots and he should be able to get a couple roots off)
otherwise... Nemora to charm Vurk is an option I think.
Alt just go shem + 3/4 LB
Maybe something like
Fawkes
- Lucius
Rowan - Shemira
Tasi
Or so
Try
Arden
Lyca
Rowan
Shemira
Nemora
Charm estrilda and root upper flank. Arden probably will get interupted but it's okay as long as estrilda is charmed and he still can root after. Call on Rowan or shemira @carmine cloud
@still oar Did this setup for most of Chap14 and 15. For this one tried like 100 tries. Arden dies insta from enemy lyca and gets nothing off, then lyca gets 1shot and after that its a no go.
Beat it! With the formation @cerulean hamlet gave me.
Took some time, but Tasi finally got to the point of using her ult. Usually i got left 1v1 Shemira and Niru and i couldnt kill him. Tasi was still alive at this point and together they got the job done.
Thank you all! 🙂
Nice!
Ah👍
Is this my best possible team comp? This team has so far carried me farther than I thought. Want to see how far I can go
Any tips ? Ulmus dies faster than Gorvo - but looks like I'm highly dependant of RNG (either Tasi & Eiron survive the first 10sec)
@still oar Could you please explain the artifact thought process?
Is the call better on shemira due to energy reg? Ive never used anything other than grace.
Why eye on arden instead of lyca?
because lyca uses dodge and grace gives dodge. dodge + dodge = more dodge. call on shem if you are up against enemies where she needs to ult asap to win the fight
Shemira Is ult baswd hereos so she only as good as her ult when tanking so the faster she ult the better os yes it's energy regen.
Eye give haste proc. Which means Arden will root faster and lyca doesn't do that much damage yet to justify the eye haste. She is mainly still for haste buff.
Usually people put blade on Shem when they also put tasi in since she is the main dps but some stages require call on her so she can tank better @carmine cloud
Do you have arden' @lavish ingot ?
Gotcha. Thank you!
I've been trying a lot of lineups but this is the one that seems to work "best". I noticed their strength is higher than my team but it seems like a brutal rise in difficulty compared to everything before (I didn't need to use mercenaries before either). I don't have Arden built up currently.. I guess I should?
you don't need to "built up" arden if you have a lyca
With you power you should be able pass it with blind fold, do you have Arden?
Even e or r will do
I have 1
not sure if you know this but arden roots have a range. if shemira is your carry then put her behind brutus so she doesn't get rooted
oh nice, thanks
put in lyca instead of the mauler behind brutus and nemora opposite of arden so arden roots his own team
Resonate him and try
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Make Arden root kaz and Arden and charm saveas. You can keep you merc for later
Ok I'll try that
btw. you shouldn't try to level everyone to 220 before your shem is 240
Yes, I intended to do that, thanks for confirming 🙂 I need to get someone else to ascended though
your khasos is already M so you already wasted mauler fodder. might as well buy him in the shop
ok
also, you don't need another ascended to get shem to 240
I got a big amount of Khasos which is why I upgraded him... guess it wasn't a good idea 😉
you normally only want to upgrade to M if you have copies for Ascended or if they are a shop hero
yeah, your carry should always be max level until you need to level the rest of your team. it's carry -> tank -> supports. a 240 shem would do much more dmg obv. and would carry you harder
ok
and by upgrading supports to 220 you are wasting 30k dust each and supports don't get much stronger with levels. aside from lyca.
Its me again, stuck 16-12 for some time now...any suggestions plz?
brutus instead of lucius. who has the lowest def of your mages? arden or nem? weakest def mage behind brutus so silvina 1 shots mage and attacks brutus who can't die because of last grasp
if nem has more def try to get ardens def higher so he can root at least once
oh lol that worked, thanks a lot for the help. Shemira at 240 made a big difference
noob question, how do I get his def higher?
either removing gear from nemora, or using a lower ascnesion hero in the library for nemoras bonus
@dry timber try this:
Front: shemira, arden
Back: nemora, Lyca, Brutus
most likely you’re not gonna be able to get nemora low enough that she’ll get jumped over arsen
ofc he will. both are L+
Malding here.
@pale kettle post your full hero pool pls
actually, Silvina is attacking Nem first
if nem gets attacked then just brutus instead of luc. arden in the middle, lyca behind shem, nem behind brutus. easy win
When i get shimera who should i replace
@pale kettle hmm maybe try:
Front: Brutus, shemira
Back: arden, nemora, Rowan; try to get nemora to charm ferael
Who shoupd i replace shimera with when i get her
Use shemira only after 161lvl. Untill then stick with Saveas and level him first. He will carry you through 🙂
Ok so save shimera
@pale kettle grats and yeah sometimes you gotta give it a few attempts, theres rng involved
Wish I could just get a Tasi and use meta team :c
its not even close so far 👀 😂
@dry timber
@still oar should Silvina attack Tasi?
Play with Lucius Saveas Lyca tasi and Arden @surreal aurora overlevel sav
@sharp oriole thanks babe
Any one got any advice for this stage been stuck on it for about 4-5 days now and still cant progress i feel like im at the limit until everyones atleast 240+ any help would be muchly appreciated especially if it gets me past the stage
@ancient raptor
Lyca
- Shemira
Nemora - Brutus
Arden
See if that does anything?
Tasi could work too if she doesn't banish ferael but she usually does so Arden > Tasi for those stages usually.