Help please c:
#lineup-help
main drift
pale kettle
lofty depot
pale kettle
west cairn
@willow eagle thanks boss
lofty depot
@pale kettle Twins are not good in campaign especially in E and especially not frontline.
Use Saveas as DPS until you get Shem to 161
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Warek maybe
Rosaline
Try that. You really should get Arden higher as well
willow eagle
@gleaming nacelle try lucius(1) lyca(2) fawkes(3) belinda(4) rosaline (5) - I feel like you may need a nemora to capitalize this but.. lets see if this works first!
sturdy snow
Not sure what comp I can make with this. Could go 5 mauler? Or I have a bunch of lightbearers as well
vale zephyr
strange meteor
burnt magnet
Any clue or am i gonna have to wait this one out
teal moat
remove fawkes, put lyca instead, and swap their spots
Nem
Lyca
Tasi
Lucius
Beli
willow eagle
@sturdy snow you can do something like hendrik(1) hogan(2) nemora(3) belinda(4) and arden(5)!
@vale zephyr try tasi(1) brutus(2) shemira(3) lyca(4) nemora(5)! this will work if you can get lucky with a nemora charm on arden to root enemies and lyca being banished before tasi dies.. brutus will then chomp nemora up along with shemira!
tall stump
+10 fawkes first or khasos?
willow eagle
@tall stump Depends, are you stronger on LB or ML currently?
tall stump
whats ml?
gilded pasture
from context id say maulers
teal moat
mauler
teal moat
and fawkes signature is much interesting, unless you focus your main dps carry as khasos
willow eagle
@strange meteor You may need to merc a brutus for this one at position (1) however, lets try this! : tasi(1) lucius(2) nemora(3) shemira(4) fawkes(5) - charm on saveas - banish on khasos or brutus but i see fawkes coffin on brutus.. lets try to do mass CC on this one.
teal moat
then boost fawkes
and by the way, dont bother going to +20 on shemira
waste of stones on that
tall stump
oki ill stop at 20
rain oriole
I hear 19-38 is a big wall? Arden can only survive at the top position, Lucius will get melted wherever I put him. I've gotten to only Ira Arden and Ogi left after so many retires, I feel like I can do it but I don't think I've seen anyone pass this with a 160 crystal, is it possible? Don't think I'll get past 160 for a while
willow eagle
@rain oriole Try doing this : Brutus(1) lyca(2) arden(3) shemira(4) nemora(5) and this will depend on lyca dodge for ogi throw and nemora charm as well.. brutus should be able to kill kaz or do some serious tanking and damage
rain oriole
If I have anyone other than Brutus in front of the Ogi his smash will always kill Arden and Lyca for some reason
willow eagle
@rain oriole have you tried brutus(1) lucius(2)?
rain oriole
Yh Lucius always gets melted, I've had the best luck with that team above and feel like they are all irreplaceable for this specific stage
Do you think it is just a case of levelling? I feel like I'm pretty underlevelled for where I am
willow eagle
@rain oriole leveling but also probably dura artifacts (they help out a lot) grace on lyca for example or cape on lucius
floral cargo
@willow eagle im sending a 10mb file
Can u help me when its sent? It'll take ages because, my wifi hehe
willow eagle
@floral cargo Yes, worst case I will try to after my meeting otherwise we got other people in here that can help 🙂
floral cargo
Oh you got a meeting, nvm
rain oriole
Ok thanks, I'll carry on having a play around with gear and formations
ashen schooner
Ew Isabella...
floral cargo
XD
ashen schooner
Hmmm.
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Isabella
floral cargo
No tasi?
willow spruce
Stuck for like 2 weeks
ashen schooner
Just test without Tasi for now
pale kettle
@lofty depot what about for labyrinth and arena
ashen schooner
Make sure Nem charms Arden
lofty depot
@pale kettle what?
ashen schooner
Belinda
Lyca
Nemora
Lucius
Tasi/Rosaline @willow spruce
pale kettle
@lofty depot you have me a line up that works better for campaign and it works a lot better than I was running, should I keep that same lineup for arena and the labyrinth?
lofty depot
No those are a bit different. Since you get heroes in lab you can most likely get a better lineup and for Wrizz (hardmode lab) you also want a different lineup.
If you're just doing normal lab without grabbing any other heroes then yeah sure you could run the same lineup.
PvP is different though, you want to ask @olive thorn about that
wide breach
I’ve got 40 faction scrolls, should I pull Wilder or LB?
lofty depot
@pale kettle
willow spruce
Getting one shotted with that one @ashen schooner 😅😅
lofty depot
@willow spruce
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi/Rosa
Shemira
Lyca
lost timber
is there a best waifu team? efficiency and meta is second priority..
orchid egret
I need help please, Been stick for almost a week
golden kiln
Some help on 9-39 will be appreciated...
This is the setup which gets me the best result atm
willow eagle
@lost timber Athalia with thoran and nara is like start of the dream waifu team... add in tasi and nemora and you got it. (end-game formations)
willow eagle
@golden kiln Who is doing the most work on your team currently? Or can you provide the battle results after an attempt?
willow eagle
@royal pewter Are you having issues with that stage? If so - can you provide what seems to be causing the biggest issue currently?
royal pewter
Sham is getting killed before getting her ult off.
willow eagle
@royal pewter Try swapping shemira and saveas - see if that is better
quiet falcon
royal pewter
looks like as soon as that def down lands, I am just getting eaten up.
willow eagle
@royal pewter Can you provide a battle results tab? (stats) and also who dies first on your team and by whom?
pale kettle
hello, my current team is shem saveas arden + lucius skregg just pulled rosa... should i put her into my formation?
willow eagle
@pale kettle You can.. rosa might follow shemira so keep that in mind - or whoever is your strongest. I would replace skreg
shell hamlet
soren? @willow eagle
pale kettle
and who do i put on the fron tehn?
royal pewter
willow eagle
@shell hamlet Lucius(1) shemira(2) Baden(3) Twins(4) Nemora(5) - Main damage will come from shemira and baden - Im thinking this will work; I have other ideas but this will maximize survivability and maximizing damage with your heros.
@pale kettle put lucius in the front and you can also put saveas as frontline
shell hamlet
maybe send 2 and i’ll try both formations?
pale kettle
what saveas? he is my main dps
shell hamlet
also what artifacts? i got all up to blade
willow eagle
@shell hamlet Lucius(1) shemira(2) Rosa(3) Baden(4) Nemora(5) the biggest artifacts will be blade on shemira and call on lucius/nemora
@pale kettle Saveas is main dps but he can also be a tank due to his sustain early on in the game, especially paired with a healer
@royal pewter try this saveas(1) hogan(2) safiya(3) shemira(4) nemora(5) for charm on brutus and delaying him with hogan as well
shell hamlet
aight ima give both of those a try i appreciate you, i’ve been running belinda carry, rosa lucius baden and rowan before now so let’s see how your formation works out
ivory breach
kinda stuck for a bit, any ideas, ty
willow eagle
@shell hamlet The formation you mentioned is good however, the level difference between heros and the ascensions will go a long way. In this case its worth trying to incorporate more of your stronger heros to see if it makes a difference. (why we are doing this)
shell hamlet
yeah i’m just tryina crack 20m right now lol
willow eagle
Now if you have lorsan - we can do something amazing with your current heros
shell hamlet
as a matter of fact i do @willow eagle just E tho
willow eagle
@shell hamlet With this comp at my level i am maybe able to get 3B otherwise its like 1.2B
willow eagle
yeeeep 😛
shell hamlet
should i try it? i got crystal spots and 1 more battle waiting for me
willow eagle
It may work out for you! If it is lower damage than what you do - its probably the level differences on your previous heros in previous formations
shell hamlet
well might aswell try, i doubt it’ll get me lower than 10m anyways, i just want to crack 20m so badly lol
proven magnet
What do u guys thinks my best campaign / 3s team?
shell hamlet
what artifacts do you use on that setup, also how should i go about distributing the gear? like best-worst? never used lorsan @willow eagle
fading cipher
Anyone have the lineup for kings tower 285?
shell hamlet
@proven magnet how do you get your resonating crystal hero’s level to be orange?
willow eagle
@shell hamlet blade belinda call nemora grace lorsan conviction twins and for rosa I use the ring(haste on crit)
proven magnet
??? @shell hamlet no idea
forest flume
@shell hamlet lvling crystal above 240 will make them orange
shell hamlet
@forest flume thank you
@willow eagle okay i’ll try that, appreciate all your help!
forest flume
@proven magnet @proven magnet you got a lot of options 😅
Ezizh - blade
Lucius - chalice
Mehira - eye
Rowan - call
Twins - drape
Maybe swap mehira or twins for Athalia if you lack dmg.
/ means or ; )
Brutus/grez/thoran as tank - tasi - nemora - lyca - ferael is also great for campaign. You can also run no tank in this team and use eironn/athalia/nara/rowan instead.
Lightbearer team can also be very strong but you havent invested in their sigs so i wouldnt bother with them yet
trail wraith
Thoughts on 14-12?
forest flume
@shell hamlet np 👌
royal pewter
Didn't work. I am close to getting sham to 81 and that should be just enough dps boost.
shell hamlet
@willow eagle heartbreaking
rustic spear
steel moat
@rustic spear try this
Tasi
Saveas
Arden (get him on resonating crystal)
Hendrik
Nemora/Lyca
quiet falcon
steel moat
@quiet falcon who does tasi banish?
visual quiver
quiet falcon
She dies before ulti lyca gets 1 shot @steel moat
gray stratus
Please help me 😖
steel moat
@quiet falcon ah I mean who does she take out of the fight with her non ult skill
You could try any of these combinations
Lyca
Shemira/Brutus
Arden/Tasi
Shemira/Brutus
Nemora
tribal bluff
Just ascended sham, not sure if this is the optimal team to use anymore
rustic spear
@steel moat thank you that helped
full temple
@tribal bluff I'd say yeah, based on what I see there. I'd say Tasi is the wildcard in your lineup, so she'd be the main one to switch to test other lineups. Nemora, Saveas, and Estrilda would be the first three to try swapping with her, imo. Nemora for heals, Saveas should still be doing some decent damage in theory, and Estrilda for speeding up those ults a bit, adding a bit of atk power, and getting you a 4-1 setup
steel moat
@visual quiver the positioning in your setup is about as good as it will get, so it may just take some leveling or luck to beat it, you could also try it with Nemora instead and run the backline in my screenshot
quiet falcon
Shem @steel moat
primal bridge
What might be a good comp for Soren?
steel moat
@gray stratus without a heavy cc like arden it will be a bit hard to get around the enemies. You could try your current setup but with Estrilda instead of Lucius (for some stun) but if that doesn't work, is there any chance you can merc an arden or Nemora
@primal bridge Shemira, Lucius, Baden, Rosaline, and Belinda/Saveas
gray stratus
@steel moat I would have to wait for the week to restart.
steel moat
Ah ok, then you can try the backline I suggested or run Tasi, Rowan, and Lyca (from top to bottom) in your backline
primal bridge
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
visual quiver
@steel moat no clue how you beat that stage with this lineup. it's simply impossible to kill luc before his ult
steel moat
It's definitely not impossible, you either need to time Lyca/Tasi's ult as he ults or luck out and have someone cc him right before
If you reposition Nemora and she charms him as he ults, he will cast the shield over your team
No lineups I give are a guaranteed win, it's ultimately up to luck to determine if you can beat it or not
summer hatch
Any suggestions?
visual quiver
wow. 22-42 is even more cancer than 22-40
long elm
high mirage
On stage 22-32. Also looking for optimal wrizz and soren setup.
lone lodge
Stuck here forever. My best try was using this formation
uneven fossil
@lone lodge use arden instead of arwen
and maybe grezhul instead of lucius
plus saveas instead of thoran
lone lodge
If Lucius dosen’t pop the buble everything dies in a second. Grezhul gets demolished wont even use the ultimate once
uneven fossil
then keep lucius
steel moat
@shell hamlet that's a really good setup! I've never used the twins before though so I don't know how well they would work compared to another dps like Belinda
uneven fossil
candid ice
Who should I ascend? My current line up is Shemira (M), Rowan, Belinda, Lucius, Ros, and sometimes hendrik. Or should I wait to ascend my elite+?
uneven fossil
any advice for this or just need to afk?
astral remnant
I'd imagine eventually you could replace shemira and put a strong belinda and she can do massive damage with the twins and their haste.
quick epoch
I got stuck on cave of wonders is there anything better I can do?
astral remnant
@craggy fern Can you post your hero page also?
craggy fern
digital shuttle
Would Love a good sugestion
astral remnant
@craggy fern Reset twins,Level shemira,The formation would be
Saveas
Hogan
Khasos
Brutus
Shemira
Maybe try that?
craggy fern
thanks for the help @astral remnant
pale kettle
Lineup for kt 275 please. Cant win even with mercs
odd python
@high mirage how much dmg do you already do to wrizz and soren
pale kettle
@digital shuttle ratirl is human trash
viscid stirrup
@pale kettle swap Lyra for your Brutus
strong hazel
When im able to L+ savaes (probably in a few day time) shld i swap him to the main carry over belinda based on my current roster? Currently using a full lb team as above mostly am at stage 11-22
Meanwhile building up shemira for post 160(still far out)
Am about 1k purple essence away from being able to get crystal to 121 my supports (benefitting rosaline and fawkes)
PS: jus l+ rowan so the 2 pics might differ
high mirage
@odd python wrizz varies between 85mil to 105mil. Soren is around 38mil
median oriole
who should I put in my next resonating crystal slot?
clear saddle
@median oriole Ferael could work, but there's nothing urgent there that could be put in the crystal. Rigby could be a possibility too i guess
median oriole
alright
spare stratus
I just did a bunch of summons and now overwhelmed on how I should have my lineup for general campaign
viscid stirrup
You should make it out of four stars and use use the three stars as ascension fodder
clear saddle
@spare stratus Firstly, put your brutus and lyca into your resonating crystal if you have space. Then you can run something like Shemira Brutus Tidus Lyca and Arden/Saveas
astral remnant
Lyca is great,Her ability that grants a group buff to haste for a short time at the start of a fight can change the outcome of a fight greatly. @spare stratus
next whale
Any suggestions on what I should use my faction pulls on got 90 scrolls atm
shell hamlet
187 kings tower anyone?
upbeat moat
id say wilders probably, you want to flesh out the trio as much as you can; LB can also be an option though as you have heroes that can be ascended @next whale
next whale
lol I use that rowan all the time
upbeat moat
i dont, but post your heroes and the stage and maybe I can help
shell hamlet
i beat it just now by moving shit around thanks though
wide breach
If shemira will be Ascended from Lab after reset and already have Nemora Ascended, should I buy Khasos or Thoran? Only have 1 E+ Khasos and 2 E+ Thoran so a ways to go
normal charm
Who do I get 240 lyca, fawkes khasos brutus grezhul
upbeat moat
@wide breach I would go Thoran in that case if you have the fodder
@normal charm who do you currently have at 240
normal charm
Lucius and shemira
odd python
@high mirage you probably can get 45mil on soren, try shem baden lucius rosa + twins or rowan? i dont have either twins or rowan so i cant judge who is better, but i use grez and get 45m
as for wrizz im around the same dmg so ig whatever your current setup is works well enough
upbeat moat
@normal charm id go lyca. If you use brutus as a tank though, him first
upbeat moat
if youre tanking with lucius, then go lyca
wide breach
@upbeat moat Yeah I could get him to M, was just waiting to see if I pulled any more Ferael whos also stuck at E+ sadly. Think ill start buying thoran though
upbeat moat
@wide breach you can try to do both; unfortunately though no guaranteed way to get ferael, so hoping for 6 copies is gonna require luck
wide breach
Yeah all I seem to pull is LB haha, just need something to throw my GB fodder at
languid mountain
Please help
high mirage
@odd python ty will give that a try and see how it goes.
still oar
What are the other heroes @languid mountain?
Can you post your hero box?
languid mountain
@still oar
still oar
You don't Arden lying around @languid mountain?
We'll try
Rowan
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi/luc
Try charm ferael. If failed restart the battle until you charm him @languid mountain
If you have Arden the 5th would be arden
languid mountain
Closet I’ve been so far. Thanks. They just can’t finish it off so I’ll just keep restarting for a bit to see if it works
@still oar
still oar
👍
pale kettle
Tips
shell hamlet
belinda
skreg
rowan
nara
faereal
@pale kettle try that out
pale kettle
Thx worked
torpid pelican
@pale kettle
If the other doesnt work
Fareal
Nara
Athalia
Skreg
Ninja graveborn
If that doesnt work out switch rowan to middle back with athalia undernearh
still oar
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Forgot the artifacts. Probably standard blade on Shem, call on tasi and eye on Arden
Try charm grezhul and root shemira and Angelo
Tasi is the bait @shell hamlet
pale kettle
Tips
shell hamlet
@still oar u got floor 209 saved?
still oar
Let me check. Should be in.tower
raw plank
Is fawkes a good one to have for a light bearer line up?
upbeat moat
Yeah he’s good, he offers good crowd control with his coffin as well as doing good damage
warped peak
How do I go about beating this?... I have no idea how to use Belinda..
next swan
Between Belinda and Rosaline, who should I make Mythic first? I got enough fodder for one of them
My Shem is still only 140 and My tanks right now are Hogan (155) and Saveas (160)
shell hamlet
@next swan belinda will carry u till u ascend ur shemira, also this should go in #classic-questions
next swan
oh sorry about that
still oar
From SS
Shemira;blade
Lv 1 gb
Lv1 gb
Lv 1 gb
Lv 1 gb
Idk how old that's @shell hamlet
shell hamlet
i mean i’ll try it lol
lost hound
I’m on ch 9-12. What lineup should I go for? I’m working on getting Shemira copies atm
oak lance
20-30, a real pain any help?
fierce kayak
@oak lance try
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Or
Atahlia
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Something along that line. Athalia or nemora disrupt or charm Arden / nemora charm ogi / Arden root them first / Shemira avoid ogi..
lost timber
I am stuck at 4-36, what lineup/level distribution should i do?
wise merlin
@lost timber Hey there ! ^^
Since you don't have much to choose from I'd say you could just level up your heroes more, get your Ogi to level 70, Shemira to 80, and Silvina to 61, it should be enough ^^
stray pine
24-38 , any suggestion 
floral cargo
Do these things work? Im trying to bypass the useless 5 minute wait time of discord's bad image compression
Nvm I'll just send the screenshots here, btw I passed chap 13 yesterday, I'm at 15-34 now :)
wise merlin
@stray pine Maybe something like . . :
Nemora
Estrilda
Eironn
Lyca
Tasi
Rely on your Eironn for main DPS, he could help you handle Shemira, and Niru if he catches them into his whirlwind.
floral cargo
clear saddle
@floral cargo
Isabella
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi maybe
floral cargo
Ive tried it many times
clear saddle
Not close?
floral cargo
Not close at all
stray pine
Oh nice , i passed it with that line up @wise merlin much thanks
wise merlin
@stray pine You're very welcome friend 🙂 best of luck further on!
@floral cargo
Nemora (charm Ankhira)
Saveas
Lyca
Estrilda
Arden (root Khasos, Brutus, and possibly even Golus)
Stable Faction bonus, and Estrilda's first attack's damage reduction debuff on the enemy might clennch the fight and assure victory. ^^ )
floral cargo
Okay! Ty
That scenario happened 3 times where nemora charms ankh and arden roots the 3 maulers, still they all survive and kill my whole team :)
wise merlin
You'd need a few more Ascensions done . . . More levels, I think that formation would of worked if you had a more reliable damage source than Saveas . . . Think you can start building your Shemira to Legendary+?
floral cargo
Need to finish the chapter to get that shemira, and wait for an E niru to get her to L+
clear saddle
That won't work, Shemira doesn't become as reliable until she gets 161, which is at M.
floral cargo
I know but she can definitely outshine saveas at 160, can't she?
clear saddle
Not necessarily, but since you are building isabella already, just keep going for her then. You won't have enough fodder for both.
floral cargo
I can let go of her, use my fodders for shem, then come back to her a year later when shem gets useless in the end of the game, you know what I mean?
Like keep her for storage, even though she does a great work here in chap 15
Bolt spam is better than her ult so yeah
clear saddle
No, you'd be wasting a significant amount of time waiting to get shem to M+. Just get your isabella to M+ when you can, and upgrade her to 200. You should be able to pass the stage quite easily for sure with that.
clear saddle
I think it would be best for you to read some of the guides pinned in #classic-questions
floral cargo
Or the other white hair guy that I forgot the name of
Okay
clear saddle
Foddering ascended tier heroes is a big no
floral cargo
Yeah but getting a legendary+ tier hero to L+ will take ages
So it's 1 kelthur/grezhul and im done
clear saddle
That is also why you should plan your ascensions more carefully. The guides in there address that quite well 🙂
jade wedge
@lost timber Move Shemira to 3, Reset Ogi for Hogan, Reset Arden for Saveas. Make sure Saveas is at least 41. Higher is better. Leave Shemira at 61. Or reset Ogi for Hogan and Reset Vedan for Ogi for another tank. The plan is to make everyone live long enough for Shemira to ult and to make sure Arden doesnt ensnare Shemira early
strong raptor
sharp flame
Any ideas? 12-20
tawny jewel
Lineup for 21-60??
@sharp flame show full roster. Also try the same with brutus in the place of lucius and saveas in the place of belinda
sharp flame
@tawny jewel
@tawny jewel didnt work, probably need to wait a bit more and M my Shemira and switch carry
tawny jewel
@sharp flame if you get crystal to 141 then you have 7 seconds inv on brutus. And replace him with lucius. Ehm i would go for
Lyca
Saveas
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
And keep retrying
Put your best gear on these 5
sharp flame
That be nice, if I could get all to L+ short on everything right now hehe, I'll give it a go and let you know! Thanks!
tawny jewel
Okay sounds good. Just so you know, teams with arden nemora amd tasi need alot of retries to actually work. If there are 2 or 3 enemies left,chanses are you will beat the stage if you retry
sharp flame
Good to know :)
trail wraith
Thoughts on 14-12?
fierce kayak
@trail wraith Arden should be 141 before Lucius for 3 roots. Else once Arden 141 and with some more levels.. you should pass. Else try Tasi over Arden.
jade wedge
@trail wraith Reset Grezhul, Make everyone 141, so you can have 3 roots for Arden. Is Nemora survivng long enough to enchant? If so, put Lyca in front of Estrilda and Shemira behind her. If Shemira gets time to ult, you should have no problem clearing. If Nemora is not enchanting, then swap her for Kaz and put Kaz in front of Estrilda, Lyca in front of Ogi, and Lucius behind Lyca
@sharp flame I would do
Tasi
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
Ideally, Tasi should stun Khasos before his axes reaches her. Brutus will tank long enough for the other Brutus to hopefully get killed by Saveas and then Saveas can carry the rest of the way.
Otherwise, you could swap Lucius with Lyca and try the same.
@tawny jewel Who does Tasi stun? Does their Tasi stun your Shemira? Does Nemora charm Arden before he roots?
tawny jewel
@jade wedge tasi stuns my shem and nemora charms arden before he roots.
jade wedge
And what about your Tasi @tawny jewel
odd python
suggestions for gb130?
sharp flame
@jade wedge many thanks ;)
still oar
Try
Shemira
Grezhul
Ferael
Silvina
Thoran @odd python
jade wedge
@sharp flame It worked?
odd python
@still oar thats actually looking like a good lineup im actually managing to kill stuff now lol hopefully i get it sometime tonight
sharp flame
@jade wedge nope, but it's partly my fault, they die to quickly, I need a nit more of luck and make 2 more L+ to push everyone to 141
worthy nimbus
PLEASE HELP
rare karma
Can someone help with 16-36?
odd python
@still oar thanks so much for the suggestion, worked like a charm
jaunty compass
Best lineup for wrizz? This is what im using
open elk
Please help me with my main strat, i got new shemira and i dont know i should replace my 5 lightbearer strat or not? Help me which one should i replace with shemira
still oar
You can try shemira in place of estrilda or Belinda or Gwen, depends on stage.
With the help of Rowan she can already in the frontline. Even tho not as tanky as 161 @open elk
Rowan and luc are the core. Which belinda and gwen as your dps so Shem can replace them
novel adder
@glacial brook hmm not too sure.. but i'd try swapping belinda for rosaline and fawkes for tasi.. i think tasi ult will be pretty instrumental for stopping lucius ults..
if that doesnt work maybe let me know who your fawkes coffins usually?
limpid quail
i'd go tasi for belinda and hold on to fawkes because he can disable the lucius shields. dont use auto ult function in this fight to have both shields diabled at the same time
pale kettle
Floor 80 Gb tower any ideas all my guys get taunted to middle than thane ults insta kill
clear saddle
Shemira in place of grezhul, then just rng. Maybe put call on her
pale kettle
What kind of rng am I looking for shemira able to ult?
old ore
Little help with 16-something please
glacial brook
😂😂😂
pale kettle
Like she gets silenced or something she can’t cast
@old ore switch shemira to lyca switch out tasi for nemora and put nemora at Arden
old ore
@pale kettle nope enemy arden gets me first and then shem withers away by kaz
clear saddle
@old ore Probably just switching shemira and lyca might do the trick, what artifacts are you running?
old ore
Horn2star shem, drape brut eye arden grace lyca
clear saddle
no blade yet?
clear saddle
You should be able to clear vipers' marsh with 200 shem, but nevermind. Put good boots on arden, then eye on shem, call on tasi
old ore
My best boots on arden L+
Yep, okay @clear saddle got it. Thank you. Ch17 now. Based on my heroes, spend the 12 fac scrolls on?
clear saddle
Wilders
old ore
Hm, i need 2 more shems for ascended, cant wait
clear saddle
👍
spark plover
these are what i have and what i usually run. stuck at ch9 now. tried all comp i can think of and no luck. does the only way to go is waiting for upgrades?
lofty depot
@spark plover You're using 3 tanks and Raine along with a Shem who doesn't get really good until 161.
Would be better to run:
Saveas
Hogan
Arden
Lucius
Nemora
But Lyca or Tasi would be even better
abstract mountain
Aby tips?
spark plover
@lofty depot i'm still waiting for more wilder fodder for arden. also my lucius and nemora is still E so they'd die even before ult
rare karma
Could someone help me with 16-36 please?
clear saddle
@rare karma replace kaz belinda and estrilda with lyca tasi and arden
proud lodge
Should I ascend gwenyth or Belinda? Or do I wait?
teal moat
Belinda better, Gwe is squishy, and Bel's passives are far better
sweet pasture
Best Soren team?
limpid quail
@wicked tendon reset niru and ogi and make saveas 160 and level hogan as tank, then switch ogi for hogan and put an arden in the crystal and use him instead of niru and swap your formation
cerulean hamlet
@proud lodge None for now, only ascend once you're guaranteed to take them to L+
@sweet pasture Lucius - Shemira - Baden - Rosaline - Rowan/Grezhul should work
wicked tendon
@limpid quail how do I level him as tank? Or you mean just use him as tank?
limpid quail
just use him as tank was what i meant you cant level as a specific role
wicked tendon
Saveas is capped at 140 :(
quiet falcon
stable schooner
Ascend Isabella to L or save for Shemira later on?
stray pine
I'll hold off until you have shem @stable schooner Also don't use ascended hero as fodder tool unless you are sure you can get them back
limpid quail
@wicked tendon oh snap he is only L, then make khasos 160
stable schooner
tyty
sweet pasture
thanks @cerulean hamlet didn't realize baden was so good just at E
limpid quail
@quiet falcon shemira front with brut and use nemora to charm ferael
sweet pasture
first attempt soren didn't wipe me second attempt he did
pale kettle
Tips
untold nacelle
Help needed with 22-60 please!
limpid quail
@pale kettle focus on killing niru first and make your belinda 140
fierce kayak
@pale kettle do read tips from #classic-questions , pinned top right there.
fading cipher
Anyone got kings tower 285?
pale kettle
Been stuck on this stage.. any recommendations for my team formation ?
past geode
Need help with this, been stuck for about a week. This stage alone.
Ah ss message. One second
viscid stirrup
@past geode try to recruit a strong wilder merc preferably a tank bc they have strong burst prioritize your damage toward shemira bc you can’t let her get that ult off
past geode
@viscid stirrup thank you but which merc?
viscid stirrup
Idk what your available options but I wanna say Gorvo
past geode
Unfortunately every Wilder except gorvo. What ascension should he be at?
limpid quail
or use an arden to counter the burst
past geode
Rare Arden would do?
cerulean hamlet
Arden won't work unless he can get Silvina to jump tasi.
But maybe try
Nemora
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Tasi
And make sure Tasi has lower defense than Nemora so silvina jumps on her then pray that Nemora charms Ferael + ideally tasi survives long enough to ult
limpid quail
yes, you need him only for roots
cerulean hamlet
Silvina will one-shot R arden, L/L+ with decent gear might work since his Tasi is only L but otherwise he won't do anything
limpid quail
oh right there is also a silvina...thanks fish
viscid stirrup
I wouldn’t try Nemora she’ll probably be assasinated before she try’s anything
cerulean hamlet
That's why you want to make sure Tasi has lower defense than Nemora, Silvina jumps on the mage with the lowest defense
old ore
What the fuck? Shem dies super fast...
viscid stirrup
Do you have an ascended ulmus or the tide lord guy maybe
quiet falcon
@limpid quail i passed it my nemora charmed shem but my shem clutched it
limpid quail
@old ore a tasi with her ult ready at the start of the fight would be nice
past geode
Fish, almost made it. Need to know which artifacts go on who and I may beat it with your lineup
limpid quail
@quiet falcon nice, congrats
old ore
Tasi died...
cerulean hamlet
Blade shem
Call tasi
eye brutus I guess?
Grace Lyca
Nemora whatever
Might take a bunch of tries but that setup should work
viscid stirrup
@old ore if you repeat the stage without clicking on where the blue tiles would be you can fight him without him being at level 300 level 300 is unreasonable
old ore
I beat him. Put another tasi on crystal and just tried 3 times. I beat him at 300 baby
limpid quail
as i said, tasi it is 😛
old ore
Yep, fought a fight i skipped earlier to get her to full energy. And then just banked on my relics replenishing her sleep potion
rich rapids
limpid quail
@rich rapids try
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi
past geode
..... LMAO
pale kettle
227 tower I’ve killed all but both vedan they just get ult to quickly any ideas
cerulean hamlet
Nemora
-Shemira
Arden
-Brutus
Tasi
@pale kettle
Err, actually you could also replace Tasi with Arden running Nemora - Shemira - Arden - Brutus - Lyca
pale kettle
@cerulean hamlet I can get it to the two creams but they just ult and I can’t do anything
rotund copper
just starting out and using Vurk (72) as primary damage, Saveas (61) sec dmg, lucius primary tank, hogan sec tank, and a mix of belinda and raine. Also have Hendrik available and almost all Rare heroes. any advice would be great!
pale kettle
Ok also now here’s Gb tower 80 stuck on this one
cerulean hamlet
@pale kettle Um, level 201 would maybe help then if your shem can't duel them. How are your artifacts then?
As for GB tower, there isn't really anything I can see that'd help except maybe levels
rotund copper
trying to figure out what my core team should be
cerulean hamlet
@rotund copper Read the pinned messages in both this channel and #classic-questions but for now your main focus should be on Saveas then see whatever else you're able to ascend to increase your total crystal level.
rotund copper
okay, cool. do I level to the next skill or keep getting him higher? 81 would be next skill upgrade
pale kettle
I figured fish I just don’t like when it’s about levels cuz that means I have to afk for like a week
cerulean hamlet
@rotund copper Probably unlock the 4th skill for your top 5 heroes then level Saveas as high as possible
rotund copper
got it. is raine worthwhile? she seems eh
cerulean hamlet
She's not particularly good, rather there are better options like Rosaline and so
rotund copper
got it thanks!
viral timber
lf some theorycrafting on how to beat that lineup in pvp, since it has a shitton of cc and durability i m not too sure what would be the best way of dealing with it: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/644577668267769856/unknown.png
willow eagle
@viral timber can you post your hero box so we have some methodology to theorycraft? If you are trying to beat this comp particularly yourself, please and thank you! If not I will start throwing out some lineups that will beat that off my own experience.
viral timber
sure those are my heroes right now, although i d not have an issue in getting some different ones and work on beating that line up long term. so both options would be welcome, just general lineups and then mabye more specific with what i have
willow eagle
@viral timber Something more specific for you which may have the best potential is - ulmus(1) kaz(2) nemora(3) lyca(4) tasi(5) - now something more generic would be athalia(1) lucius(2) nara(3) rowan(4) Fereal(5) or athalia(1) lucius(2) twins(3) fereal (4) rowan(5) or swapping twins for lyca - Another that I would think work is ulmus(1) tasi(2) nemora(3) eironn(4) lyca(5) with the ability to swap eironn in either (3) (4) or (5) positions.
lost hound
Any advice for what lineup to go for? I’m on 9-34
I could make an L/L+ Hogan, an L Belinda
Updated pic
viral timber
@willow eagle ty for the input. i tried some wilderer setups earlier and ofc it doesnt help that i m 3 levels below, but it goes more in favor of his setup. Mostly because even if i pull the mehira, i d also pull the lucius and ezizh, which then can chain prevent your ults once their ults start going. or if i put him in 3 or 5 (well i mostly tried 5 so far, to prevent the fawkes cage) then he does the inital pull yes, but then afterwards gets pulled towards the middle by the ezizh 😂 so it's rly a pain in the ass, because even if you survive some while, once the charms start coming in and the safiya is not cc'd anymore / her +30 sig is charged up they ll deal enough dmg to get some kills
willow eagle
@viral timber an eironn is really strong against that specific comp, ive noticed.
spare stratus
Right now I'm running Brutus, Shemira, Saveas, Lyca, and Tidus. I just acquired some new heroes. Should I rearrange my lineup / reset hero levels?
cerulean hamlet
@spare stratus Lyca + Arden + Saveas + Tidus + Brutus is probably okay for now but you might want to level belinda instead of one of the ascended tier maulers for level cap for now.
spare stratus
@cerulean hamlet is shemira just not strong enough at this stage to be kept?
cerulean hamlet
You should work on her but she doesn't spike until like level 161
stiff tendon
Hey Im rather fresh guy in afk arena and I need some help deciding what to put on team or what changes I should do. Now I play Hendrik Mehira Estrilda Thane and Gwyneth. I would rather stay with 4-1 since I think Mehira is op and gives a nice deff boost to team :)
viscid stirrup
@spare stratus is S tier but needs her levels more than a support/ but gets more value out of her stats than a support
willow eagle
@stiff tendon Try replacing thane for belinda 🙂 that will make your team even more bursty and strong
stiff tendon
Thanks I did think about it but wasn't sure how will it go :)
viscid stirrup
@stiff tendon thane is fine but he needs to be babied more than Belinda bc he’s a squishy melee
Belinda’s ult does more burst but Thanes kit has more sustain damage
ashen schooner
I'd try
Belinda/Arden
Thoran
Rowan
Lucius
Arden/Belinda
viscid stirrup
@clever patio switch fawkes out for Arden
ashen schooner
I mean
You're going into a full GB comp with LBs
I'd say maybe try utilizing your Wilders in there
clever patio
Ok what should I do now. The shemira gets ult off and kills me and the girl in middle kills my things
ashen schooner
Belinda/Arden
Tasi
Arden/Belinda
Lyca
Nemora
clever patio
Who’s in what number slot,..
viscid stirrup
Your Seirus isn’t high level but you should try him at least
He might be bulky enough to at least not be popped
viscid stirrup
Maybe
Belinda
Thoran
Arden
Lucius
Seirus
clever patio
I have to have seirus behind thoran because lucius dies to early
viscid stirrup
Ok maybe don’t use Seirus he’s probably squishier than Lucius rn
fading cipher
Help with 23-16!
upbeat moat
@fading cipher If you put in Fawkes, who does he coffin; also please show me your LB heroes
covert jewel
Looking for some help 20-30
willow spruce
Stuck atm
warm wigeon
any suggestions for this stage? Isabella and brutus are painful
naive summit
Hi guys any recommendations, been stuck here for 5 days
royal grotto
Same above
sterile canyon
Stuck on 20-8, any help is appreciated
royal grotto
Same as @naive summit, I’ve tried to put shemira instead of fawkes and place lyca next to Lucius as a sacrifice, but turns out I’m not that strong to beat this team with 4. Anyhow maybe I’m not meant to pass this with this level, I’m only 66 level
Lol that actually worked, I’ve just restarted the fight to keep mehira alive, she is so op
orchid egret
I need help please
willow eagle
@covert jewel Try moving nemora up to position (3) to charm arden for the roots.
covert jewel
@willow eagle I’ll give it a shot.
brisk heart
Pls help. They’re unkillable
willow eagle
@willow spruce try ulmus(1) grezhul(2) fereal?(3) [cant tell in your screenshots] shemira(4) nemora(5) - nemora charm on brutus
willow spruce
@willow eagle whoops 😅😅
willow eagle
@warm wigeon try using : lucius(1) belinda(2) fawkes(3) shemira(4) nemora(5) - charm on ankhira for her webs on opponent 🙂
@willow spruce yep! fereal it is 🙂 try that
carmine kiln
Hi, I know messed a few ascends up, I am really lacking a dmg dealer. Should I be looking to make a saveas or would it be worth ascending khasos?
willow spruce
Ulmus getting one shotted :/
willow eagle
@naive summit lucius(1) brutus(2) arden(3) saveas(4) nemora(5) roots up top and charm on khasos/saveas and burst kill potential on khasos, try that.
@willow spruce Hmm, swap grezhul and ulmus then - lets see if this works before we use other tanks. You may need a couple of tries
willow spruce
@willow eagle
willow eagle
@sterile canyon try: lucius(1) skreg(2) belinda(3) nemora(4) shemira(5) - may depend on lucky nemora charm on arden
@willow spruce put shemira in (2) and fawkes in (4) lets see if we can do something about that brutus along with ankhira - charm + coffin
pale kettle
Any thoughts lads
willow spruce
Still doesnt work tasi fck me up 😅😅
willow eagle
@orchid egret try lyca(1) brutus(2) arden(3) shemira(4) nemora(5) - may need multiple tries but trying to maximize your arden cc and your nemora charming opp. arden for more arden roots
@willow spruce are you getting better results or worse from previous rec?
willow spruce
Better
orchid egret
Okay for your help @willow eagle
willow eagle
@brisk heart try thane(1) lucius(2) belinda(3) gwen(4) arden(5) - or lucius(1) thane(2) belinda(3) gwen(4) arden(5) - or - you can also remove gwen for rowan if you need more healing.
@willow spruce show me stats again pls after a couple tries and tell me who dies first on each team (u vs enemy)
brisk heart
Alright thank you!
willow eagle
@carmine kiln khasos may be better and if you position him in (4) he maximizes his damage output by his spinnin axes
carmine kiln
Ok thanks, then just push for a Shem through lib I guess
warm wigeon
@willow eagle I tried this but nemora melts instantly from silviana 🤦
willow spruce
@willow eagle most of the time fawkes or nemora
willow eagle
@warm wigeon try swapping nemora with silvinia to kill isabella faster then - hopefully your other mages can tank more than nemora and adjusting (4) and (5) to prepare for tanking on shem/belinda
stark dragon
dull moon
Stuck for weeks. 22-60. Any advice?
willow eagle
@willow spruce you may need to just get really lucky with 1 or 2 things - could take a lot of tries at this level difference
@stark dragon what other heros do you have?
@dull moon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580294304552058881/591107184910139402/image0.jpg - can you mimic this formation? it was used to beat that stage earlier shown
dull moon
@willow eagle I can but they are severely unascended. Most are legendary or L+.
willow eagle
The ascension on tasi and nemora doesnt matter as much IMHO but the rest do
willow eagle
@autumn carbon what is the closest you got warek to hp wise? 20%? 50%?
willow eagle
@worn swan Honestly you have some really good heros starting off - The only thing I can see that may benefit you a lot right now is like a brutus or nemora.
worn swan
@willow eagle thanks
high mirage
Any help would be appreciated. 22-32
willow eagle
@high mirage https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580294304552058881/580587924421083159/image0.png this is my reference from my archives - lets see if we can mimic this or experiment off of it 🙂 if you can merc a tasi and lyca this should be a clean sweep. If not.. we can try to do something like fawkes instead of tasi and belinda instead of lyca?
warped peak
I have been stuck on this all day just switching my heroes around... I have no clue how to beat this stage
Brutus and Lucius die before they can ult and saveas takes so long to kill them and the spider girl on the bottom(forgot her name) keeps cocooning him
high mirage
Sadly I have only ever received one tasi. I just cleared a spot for tasi on the crystal but wont be able to try till tomorrow.
When I try belinda and fawkes my backline gets killed quickly leaving only brutus alive after silvina targets shemira @willow eagle
willow eagle
@high mirage Yeah i think the magic with that comp is that silvinia has RNG against her (does not crit as much) and the nemora charm to pass that stage
cerulean hamlet
@warped peak Try
Saveas
- Brutus
Belinda - Lucius
Thane
Maybe, that would help but I think getting Sav to E+ and over level 100 will def clear it though
warped peak
I have no saveas to ascend him >.< I dont spend so it's kinda hard obtaining him
high mirage
@willow eagle I will keep trying with the comp mentioned and see if it works out after a hundred runs or so. Until then hopefully I can get another few tasi for the wilder trio. Thanks for the help.
cerulean hamlet
You'll get the fodder in a while so no stress really
warped peak
@cerulean hamlet didnt work :/ ig my thanet is too squishy
cerulean hamlet
Maybe just try moving them around and trying a few combinations when you wait for fodder then? Isn't too much I can see that would do anything huge for now.
Multiple accs as stated before could probably help alleviate the waiting time.
stiff coyote
warped peak
Wow day 3 and you alr have shemira >.< nice
small egret
copper moon
@warped peak
Try
Nemora
---- Saveas
Raine
---- Brutus
Lucius
@small egret
Try
Rosaline
---- Lucius
Ira
---- Nara
Nemora
autumn carbon
@willow eagle 20%
willow eagle
@autumn carbon you can probably beat that stage.. warek is kinda a dumb hero tbh in campaign especially with level difference. Keep it up and i guarantee you will get one try where you will win
autumn carbon
OK I’ll keep hitting the rng
next flame
warped peak
@copper moon Didnt work :/
cerulean hamlet
Your lineup looks good, it's basically standard meta which is quite good for mid-game.
Brutus is fine as he is but ofc further ascensions will help.
Try getting an Arden L+ to sub for Nemora but otherwise Brutus for stages where Lucius doesn't do much and you've basically got everything you need @next flame
shell hamlet
floor 60 lb tower @cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
@next flame Indeed it will, L+ would be ideal for now but level 141 is the most important part
@shell hamlet
Fawkes
- Lucius
Rowan - Estrilda
Belinda
Try that, don't use auto ult and try make fawkes ult when the brutus' pop their immunity and remove it
proud lodge
Is Athalia any good? Better than Thane?
cerulean hamlet
Drape Lucius
Chalice Estrilda
Call Rowan
Eye Belinda
w/e left Fawkes I suppose should work
shell hamlet
athalia is good 161+ @proud lodge
she’s alright before but she really shines after that
don’t got chalice yet just up to blade @cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
Um, Blade Fawkes.... then I guess Drape estrilda if she needs the help to survive as long as Lucius doesn't get nuked.
shell hamlet
ok
shell hamlet
should i keep running
arden
shem
lyca
brutus
nemora/tasi
even though arden is staying 160 or is there a better lineup to be using?
i’m on 18-36 rn
cerulean hamlet
Just keep running it, Arden is used all the way up to late 22/23
ashen edge
is it okay if I try to go for this combo for late game, so I dont fodder the wrong heroes?
Tasi
--------- Lucius
Shemira
--------- Mehira
Athalia
those are the heroes I like, does not mean they are good in that combination probably
cerulean hamlet
You shouldn't fodder ascended tier heroes anyways but... "late" late game Shemira would probably be better as Lyca or something in that comp. It's probably a workable formation assuming that you can pull Mehira/Athalia though
Focusing on standard meta for mid if probably safe though and does somewhat build into that
ashen edge
standard meta for mid?
cerulean hamlet
Yeah, Shemira + Tasi + Lyca + Nemora/Arden + Brutus/Lucius
ashen edge
ok will do that in the mean time, ty
rotund copper
Struggling on 5-32
wide wasp
Any1 have suggestions for King's Tower 289? I've tried all the lineups people have done in youtube videos but haven't been able to beat it in 100+ tries even with the Shemira, Lyca, Tasi, Brutus, Arden comp which seems to perform best
ornate flame
any advice on mauler tower 80?
rare dome
@wide wasp do you have athalia or another jump starter like her?
wide wasp
@rare dome L Athalia and E+ Nara but the arden isn't really the issue, It goes way worse whenever i try to swap out my own arden instead of having him root the enemy arden
my best try so far has been getting down to shemira vs saveas 1v1 once, but even if that happens the saveas can 2-shot my shem so unless he is extremely low hp he'll win that battle
rare dome
tbh im newer 11-35. but i was thinking more along the line of negating saveas and rolling up.
something like
arden
lucius
rowan
shem
athalia
In my experience the nuke level damage saveas does more than ruins a build
although if you think that lucius could hold alone you could also shift rosaline in for arden to boost shem.
wide wasp
so the thing is, my brutus has 7 seconds of invulnerability on the bottom side which keeps the brutus and saveas busy, and my Lyca has close to the maximum possible amount of Dodge (570 - Full mythic+ Wilder faction gear) meaning she can survive a ridiculous amount of time even after getting flipped by the Warek.
Right now i'm kinda just retrying for some god tier dodge rng where she can dodge for 20+ seconds, because her dying is pretty much what makes me lose since the warek will promptly go flip shem instead
but i'll give what you suggested a shot and see what happens
rare dome
if my characters were levelled up to that with my current config id be trying like
rosa
belinda
rowan
Lucius
Athalia
id nuke saveas and then try to power heal through the rest and let the top two duel out.
still dont have the cards i want for end lol
frigid herald
whatd be the best team if you can pick out of all units?
rare dome
not really sure XD
Personally I like building single type teams because I find that the extra damage and HP are useful.
pale kettle
What would be the best for 8-XX
rare dome
even then I usually try to have a higher dps on one side and survivability on the other so that I can hold one and roll from the other
I also really dont like using GB for personal/story reasons......
wide wasp
@rare dome So, for starters i only have a belinda as mercenary (that gets deleted instantly by the warek), and secondly, rosaline is a bit of a situational choice. You can only really run rosaline if the enemy has a beefy high sustain comp, if you run her versus a comp that blows up your frontline she won't get her ult in time and accomplish nothing. You'll just be sacrificing a CC unit over her at that point.
rare dome
yeah like i said mines a bit of a special situation.... my belinda is wierdly tanky...
wide wasp
Rowan is a much more general pick since he has the 50% heal pot, energy from ult and signature weapon
rare dome
my biggest lack of data from where i am at is that I dont have access to the special weapons outside of looking up on the wiki
so i dont really know how that changes them... sorry
wide wasp
@frigid herald you want 8 copies of Ferael, Eironn, Lyca, Tasi and Nara for endgame
@rare dome well for example, rowan +30 sig https://i.imgur.com/Hg3OW1L.png
rare dome
mice
wide wasp
when the first hero on your team reaches 600 energy, they instantly get to 1000 energy
frigid herald
why those units?
wide wasp
@frigid herald they are all extremely strong at chapter 23+
ofc there are many more units besides those you'll want as well but those are the main ones really
clever copper
22-42 Is annoying me
shell hamlet
18-36
cerulean hamlet
@clever copper
pale kettle
Can I do this or no
shell hamlet
@pale kettle use fawkes, makes that level easy
cerulean hamlet
@shell hamlet replace tasi for nemora
Arden
-Brutus
Lyca
-Shemira
Nemora
Pray your nem charms their arden
pale kettle
Omg ur smart
wide wasp
@pale kettle umm, why is your rowan your highest leveled hero? it should be belinda or lucius
pale kettle
I don’t use Belinda as main carry this is just lb tower
wide wasp
still wierd to push rowan to 180 instead of leveling your crystal up evenly
pale kettle
I don’t use Belinda in my lineup at all my last hero is usually a bait or lyca ehich doesent really need levels or anything
wide wasp
yes but what i'm saying is, your crystal level is only 168 and presumably gated by lack of xp so if you leveled it evenly instead of 180 rowan your crystal would probably be at 172-ish instead, raising the power of all the heroes you have in that crystal including your rosaline and estrilda
pale kettle
Any advice on how to beat these guys, I've been stuck at this level for a bit already
cerulean hamlet
@ornate flame If possible a good Khasos mercenary should be able to clear that stage pretty well
@wide wasp
Fawkes
- Shemira
Rowan - Lucius
Arden
Try that maybe?
wide wasp
@pale kettle you have no CC whatsoever in your team, only dps heroes. I realize CC heroes are a bit harder to come by and weaker in early game but you should definitely start by taking out that shemira since she is weak pre-161 and you could really use a Fawkes/Tasi/Nemora instead to deal with that brutus
pale kettle
So tasi would be a better fit than shemira
shell hamlet
last one i ask about tonight 😜😂 18-40, i need to beat this chapter lol
clever copper
@cerulean hamlet should shemira be placed opposite skreg?
Am I relying on her dodge?
cerulean hamlet
The order of the heroes (always the same for log)
is
Fawkes (3)
- Shemira (1)
Rowan (4) - Lucius (2)
Tasi (5)
so yes @clever copper
Uh, a bit. There's a lot of RNG but basically you need lucius to survive to ult at least 1-2 times and same for shem
wide wasp
@cerulean hamlet Having lyca top front is a must as any other hero that gets flipped by warek gets insta deleted, except for brutus but he's been working the best in bottom as lucius bottom will most likely die as soon as saveas gets un-rooted. Fawkes caskets the shemira which.. doesn't really do much for me over just having her get banished. I feel like this is possible if i just retried hundreds of times for the RNG but i'd rather just wait for full 240 crystal at that point since i'm only 20k dust away
cerulean hamlet
@shell hamlet Your current lineup for that should work but an alternative is
Tasi
- Shemira
Nemora - Brutus
Lyca
Both vars you want Nemora to charm enemy Arden
shell hamlet
👍🏻
wide wasp
@pale kettle yes definitely, tasi temporarily removes enemies from the fight as a basic ability and her ult also sleeps the entire enemy team for a few seconds. this lowers the damage your team takes and the damage you can output "for free" by a lot
pale kettle
@wide wasp I've defeated the Brutus I'm thankful for your advice
cerulean hamlet
@wide wasp I mean, Shemira should be able to survive with Rowan pots. Just needs a bit of rng on arden roots and not getting crit to death and it should work with that
clever copper
@cerulean hamlet what artifacts should i have on who
cerulean hamlet
Blade - Shem
Chalice - Lucius
Rowan - Call
Fawkes - Grace
Tasi - Eye
shell hamlet
what is the superior lineup in your opinion? and how should i go about the artifacts? i have up to blade
@cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
I'd go with the Tasi comp probs
Blade- Shem
Call- Tasi
Drape - Brutus
Grace - Lyca
w/e Nemora, eye perhaps?
clever copper
Well shemira keeps dieing too early
@rotund copper you can try Belinda instead of shemira
cerulean hamlet
Mh, maybe just try it over a bunch? 22-42 is one of the more annoying stages in ch22 after all. Though I had 3x M+ on faction (not cloak) and M+ cloak as gear on shem.
rotund copper
okay. thanks. would you say keep leveling saveas as priamry dps?
tired coyote
Stuck on 7-32 for a few days now, not sure what to do anymore.
clever copper
Oh I only have M+ faction boots on shemira
rotund copper
Do i push saveas past 81 or bring rest of team to 81?
cerulean hamlet
Possibly! The gear does give quite a bit of stats to help her survive
gilded fractal
help pls
rotund copper
right but then what @clever copper
clever copper
Rip that's the stage I'm stuck on
@rotund copper actually you should push saveas to 100. He should be overlevelled compared to your crystal level
rotund copper
okay sounds good
cerulean hamlet
@gilded fractal Do you not have a Rowan?
gilded fractal
@cerulean hamlet unfortunately no
rotund copper
got him to 81 and that broke thru 5-32, now on 5-36 but will work to getting him to 100
cerulean hamlet
Mh, I'm not entirely sure what's the best way to go about 22-42 post-skreg update other than maybe
Tasi
- Shem
Lyca - Brutus
Arden
But I'm pretty sure it'll take a lot more RNG now than before-
shell hamlet
@cerulean hamlet do u have your 18-40 saved? this shit is giving me a migraine 😂😂 having to reset until nemora charms arden and then still getting clapped is demoralizing me
cerulean hamlet
I didn't save a SC of it no, but I used what I listed for you above 😛 Took me quite a few resets but the levels are fine
shell hamlet
heartbreaking, i just got the charm and my dumbass shemira silenced arden 😞
shell hamlet
@cerulean hamlet
cerulean hamlet
@shell hamlet Grats 🙂
brittle summit
Any suggestions for 22-32?
pine cedar
slim nebula
novel adder
@pine cedar any specific question? just avoid leveling more than 5 heroes..
gleaming nacelle
Help 🙏🏽
pine cedar
Wym avoid leveling more then 5?
gleaming nacelle
Only level 5 heroes and put the rest in the resonating crystal
If you level more than 5 it's a waste of xp and dust
pine cedar
Ok
novel adder
@slim nebula yeah i think brutus is your best bet as a second frontline.. since he has immunity mechanic while being underleveled.. he will last the longest as a frontline compared to other tanks at level 120.. you can run with arden.. but do try fawkes for faction bonus in some stages where the roots aren't too needed.
But yeah you have a few issues to deal with since you ascended heroes to L. I recommend you have a look at the pinned tips i was talking about.. read through it and come back if you have more questions.. it will save you more heartache
pine cedar
Can someone help me on 3-32
novel adder
@gleaming nacelle has ur lucius ever survived to ult in this stage?
slim nebula
@novel adder sorry what # are those at?
novel adder
@slim nebula #classic-questions 🙂 top right in that channel.
novel adder
np 🙂 we here for this
@gleaming nacelle im not very experienced with full lb setups but..i think you need to disrupt the arden.. so maybe dropping belinda?
Rowan
Lucius
Athalia
Shem
Fawkes
Im not sure who fawkes coffins..i assume shem
@pine cedar early game you can actually run almost anything.. its quite forgiving in terms of team choice.. but levels are the most important.. I'd try to invest in leveling 1 chosen carry hero early.. level that carry much higher than the rest of your heroes.. typically used heroes are saveas, ira, mirael.. in your case i think kaz might also work. Do have a look at the pinned tips in #classic-questions as well.. it will help you with planning..
pine cedar
Is thoron a good damage carry hero
loud scroll
He’s a tank. Not really who you want for damage
novel fulcrum
saveas
pine cedar
Saveas?
odd python
loud scroll
^^
pine cedar
Oof imma need to level him quite a bit lol
odd python
reset warek and put saveas in
pine cedar
Ok
novel fulcrum
just level your saveas all the way, hes a hard carry at least for the first few chapters
untold rivet
I have noticed you are leveling 7 heroes @pine cedar Limit it to 5 and you should have no problems till after chapter 7.
odd python
once brutus gets to 61 which shouldnt be too long he gets invincibility and him and thoran can tank, if you overlevel saveas as well you should breeze through stages, slowly replace niru and silvina for other elite heroes i guess
untold rivet
Please give suggestions
odd python
i mean you can keep warek in but 3 tanks is sorta unnecessary you probably want some control or more dmg
pine cedar
But what would be smarter
novel fulcrum
if you keep warek in then you get the faction bonus between saveas/brutus/warek
at about lv ~60 you should toss your arden into your resonating crystal as a solid cc backlined
pine cedar
Then who should i reset?
odd python
literally whoever tbh, youre so early in the game that it wont matter for too long. but do try to only manually level 5 heroes and use the crystal for the rest
pine cedar
Ok
novel fulcrum
@untold rivet have you tried using arden missed it nvm
untold rivet
What did you miss, @novel fulcrum ?
novel fulcrum
tasi
brutus
lyca
shemira
arden
try that @untold rivet
odd python
@pale kettle pretty sure rosa across from athalia dodges the initial hit and swap tasi for nemora to charm ferael
untold rivet
All fights so far are 5-0.
novel fulcrum
does that mean its working?
untold rivet
no, I am not killing any of them
novel fulcrum
might have to use a friend
untold rivet
I can't. They helped me a couple days ago
zinc stump
He means 0/5... all his die and he doesnt kill any of theirs.
violet temple
Hey everyone so i have a question. Trying to beat lvl 140 on the tower for maulers. Here's my characters and also them.
pine cedar
Should i add estrida into my lineup
violet temple
@pine cedar i normay run lightbearers. My usual line up is lucius estrilada belinda rowan and fawkes
I did the voyage today with them and didnt lose a single fight or restart any
violet temple
Yeah i pmd you darknesrising35
zinc stump
@untold rivet maybe sac Arden and Saveas to Safiya and Nem to break crystal cap to at least 180, 200 all the better... then try Belinda Lucius, Baden, Shem, Athalia to get the X3 boost for Lb/Gb. You might also try Nem for CC to counter Brutus. The sooner you can get him to pop his invincibility the better so you can have Belinda or shem get the kill before he ults.
I like to counter with Fawks, Belinda, Rosaline, Lucius, Raine so I have one less enemy to worry about and Belinda Ults every 3 seconds or so. Once you kill the 4th and Brutus pops back on the field save Belinda 2nd ult for the second his shield drops. I'd have her in slot 2 and rosaline in slot 1.
untold rivet
@zinc stump Could you pleasesend that to me in DM so I can look at it tomorrow qwhen I am more awake?
summer hatch
What lineup would you use with this?
wise merlin
@summer hatch Hey there ^^
Are you stuck currently? If so please share your formation vs the enemy so we could advice a proper line-up to you 🙂
If not please make sure to only post here while you're stuck since that is this channel's only purpose. hope you understand ~
violet temple
@summer hatch since you have them. Id run lucius brutus up front and belinda nemora and rowan in the back
@summer hatch if you can try and aim for your team bonus as well. I run 5 lightbearers so i get +25%hp and +25% damage buff
still oar
D'you have arden'
Try
Lyca
Tank
Rowan
Shem
Arden.
- Arden needs to root athalia and fawkes and shemira dodges the coffin. Or you can use coffin bait if you can.
- Rowan can cast his ultimate which in turn will cc Athalia and shemira cast her ultimate.
If you can get to 2 you should be able to clear it easily @clever copper
clever copper
My Lyca can't tank. Only e+ and not the best gear
Oh wait sorry I thought you meant Lyca as a tank. But I can use lucius up front?
still oar
Resonate lyca @spare crypt.
And try
Nemora
Luc
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Nemora charms estrilda and Arden roots Hogan
Yes @clever copper. Lyca just for haste. It's better if she is can also do some damage.
As for tank you can use anyone as long as it can buy team some time and support your team.
I used ezzizh even. Just for the energy
clever copper
@still oar oh I beat it I used fawkes instead of Lyca. Ty for helping
spare crypt
@still oar lyca?
still oar
This girl >>
clever copper
22-50
still oar
Try
Nemora/rosa
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Athalia
The team just need to buy time for shemira to ult. If you use nemora try charm seirus @clever copper
nimble cape
Now that we have presets, what are some of the line ups better used for the more "difficult" teams to deal with Things like Brutus/Shemira combo type stuff.. Just wanting to set up preset for different circumstances so im prepared
clever copper
Are you sure about having shemira in front of seirus and nemora?
still oar
Yep since in front of bear is no no and you need Rowan in the middle and athalia to cc Arden so the only place is in front of seirus
Such as this line up
clever copper
It's kinda working, shemira double ults but nemora heals their team early
Ok thanks it worked. I used Rosa frontline, with shemira behind. Took a bit of rng
zinc vale
I am a new player who needs help with which heroes I should focus on and what my lineup should be with these heroes
brittle summit
Need help with clearing 22-32
brittle summit
@still oar setup isn't working for me. And can't use Arden as I used him to get Kaz to Mythic+ (which led to her going to Ascended).
still oar
Even elite?
brittle summit
Even if I used Arden he would only get 1 shotted by Silvina.
still oar
The common strategy is to bait Silvina and charm ferael. And you can bait her with A tasi
The secret is charmed ferael
brittle summit
Charming Ferael doesn't do much for me as I still lose all of my heroes.
still oar
From early? Or after 1st fear?
wild tree
help needed 21-37
sand kindle
@pale rover Aero, I need your super pro tip. Fkin tired of this stage. It makes me crazy 
pale rover
@sand kindle Warek Brutus front, Nemora (charm Arden) Athalia/Eironn (dps) Tasi back?
sand kindle
@pale rover okie, brb
still oar
D you have arden' or rowan @wild tree?
You can check @sand kindle telegram for screen shots
sand kindle
@pale rover nop, not even close. If athalia - arden root the whole teal and kill. If Eironn - warek no needed
pale rover
@sand kindle I see! I also asked skeet to help give a lineup, but he's in a meeting so I'll just DM it to you later.
sand kindle
sure ty
woven nimbus
I think you would need Lyca for Nemora to charm in time.
sand kindle
Arden should stay disabled or he kill the whole team in seconds
woven nimbus
Who does Tasi banish?
sand kindle
Enemy Tasi cos she is a boss
brittle summit
@still oar charms after first fear.
still oar
It should be charm before first @brittle summit. Can you put better boots on her to up the speed.
Tru the comp Bellow and replace grezhul with kaz
tall forge
Which team should I use for campaign/arena?
sand kindle
clear saddle
@tall forge Campaign setups will vary according to the enemy, but a good start would be saveas, lyca brutus grezhul and shemira/arden
sand kindle
Regular fight for now. Ulmus heals like crazy
wild tree
@still oar yes i do have
iron kelp
21-38
clear saddle
@iron kelp Who does tasi banish? Also, probably swap arden in for nemora.
clear saddle
You might be able to run your shemira frontline against the ulmus then. Try her front and back and see what happens.
iron kelp
I tried nem in middle back to charm Arden. But his roots are too fast. And multiple. Rip. Shem always get stuck with full energy but can’t ult
wild tree
@iron kelp urghh.. i even resonate 192. brut 200. still cant beat. btw thx for the ss
iron kelp
I used a merc brut who was 209
still oar
Try
Tasi
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Root kaz and tasi. Start with that @wild tree
wild tree
@still oar alright. will try that.
@iron kelp 201 guves att speed. is it making any diff?
oak lance
20-52 any help?
still oar
This is rng bit
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Root kaz and Arden and charm saveas @oak lance
pale kettle
hi my current line up is arden saveas ros + shem and lucius... i got eironn fawkes belinda and fereal
should i exchange arden and saveas for fawkes and fereal? i would get a 3-2 faction bonus like that.... saveas is 15 lvl higher but my ros doesnt attacj herself to him but goes to shem or lucius
stray pine
24-52 any suggestions
tiny echo
Is it possible for me to complete floor 141 on the kings tower with my current heroes?
still oar
@Flaw#7579
stray pine
I don't have a Shem nor a Thoran , any suitable replacement I can throw in there @still oar
pale kettle
hi my current line up is arden saveas ros + shem and lucius... i got eironn fawkes belinda and fereal
should i exchange arden and saveas for fawkes and fereal? i would get a 3-2 faction bonus like that.... saveas is 15 lvl higher but my ros doesnt attacj herself to him but goes to shem or lucius
still oar
Think you can substitute Shem with Isa and use poor thoran
Do you have enough dust to 161 Shem?. You should be able to do it with 161 Shem @tiny echo
tiny echo
Not quite I’m about 2k short 🙂 thanks for the advice! I’ll give it a try when I can
still oar
Hold let's give a shake can I see your other heroes @tiny echo?
tiny echo
These are what I have currently 🙂
still oar
Oh you have Rowan. Can you resonate him? And Arden ?
And try
Nemora
Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Luc
Charm hogan so he would CC lyca or isa
If you can resonate Arden
Arden
Shem
Rowan
Lyca
Nemora
Arden roots Hogan and nemora charm either Khasos or belinda after his first throw @tiny echo
tiny echo
Sure I’ll give that a try now!
final star
Any tips? Stuck for a while
still oar
Try
Shem
Lyca
Mehira
Brutus
Nemora
Or @final star
lofty depot
@final star this was my lineup for that stage
final star
@still oar thanks a lot
unkempt parcel
help
light kite
lofty depot
@unkempt parcel Show me all your heroes. Also DM me because I want to go through some things with you that might help you in the long run
tawny jewel
lofty depot
@light kite
Lyca
Brutus
Mehira
Shem
Tasi
Try that
light kite
@lofty depot doesn't work at all. They die too fast. 1 enemy at 50% hp therest at 100% still
Managed to do it with a mercenary
prime skiff
help
lofty depot
@light kite Sorry I didn't see your message, glad you made it!
upbeat moat
@prime skiff how close are the fights
lofty depot
@prime skiff put Rowan in the middle and if Shem survives put her against Brutus and try using Tasi instead of Fawkes or just keep him
prime skiff
they last maybe 15 seconds, I get lucius ult working first and then shem but then vedan ults and kills everyone of
upbeat moat
Do 3: Fawkes 4: rowan 5: Rosaline
prime skiff
like what, left or right
tall forge
Can’t beat this stage, who do I use and where do I place them?
abstract mountain
Any advice?
tall forge
This is what I have
prime skiff
lucius died instantly the fight started
same issue, vedan ults and destroys everyone
lament birch
Even my Shem can only get them to half live at the end if the fight because of their healing power...
prime skiff
welp got past it by changing around artefacts 
delicate tendon
How do I beat this?
clear saddle
@delicate tendon I think a warek merc will do better than a khasos merc in this particular instance, try to find a high ascension one in #mercenary maybe
odd python
get a merc warek, its super useful
pale kettle
How?
odd python
if you rolled ice and firebringer it shouldnt be that bad?? id have thought athalia and lucius would be a much harder fight
pseudo lodge
stucked on this stage. shall i feed off estrilda for belinda or ill just wait?
fading cipher
If your saveas was overleveled then you shouldn't have many problems, also having a 2nd tank would be good (16.9k hours on dota...)
pseudo lodge
i tried switching saveas and belinda but belinda does better :/
i dont have enough xp to overlevel him XD
ill just wait then?
visual quiver
reset lucius and belinda. put lucius instead of sav in the crystal, level belinda to 120 like the rest. overlevel sav
pseudo lodge
okay thanks ill try it
visual quiver
also, try brutus instead of luc. maybe he can tank better. at 141 he is 7 seconds invisible
pseudo lodge
👍 👍
visual quiver
and read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
sour fossil
any tips? I can't beat warek
broken egret
@sour fossil not sure how good your gear is, but i would advise you to have lyca vs the warek, if you get good RNG she should be able to dodge the most of his hits anyway. Also could you tell me the stage number, i can try and see if i have a solution
marble bane
Any advise? :(
cerulean hamlet
@marble bane
Safiya
- Brutus
Khasos (with sig) - Warek
Satrana/Antranda should work given okay RNG
west finch
Any ideas what to run?
sour fossil
@broken egret it's 24-35. Ferael, tasi, and lyca have 4 m+ gears with correct faction bonus. Lucius has 3 m+ gears with lb bonus
cerulean hamlet
@west finch Try pulling Saveas out of crystal and leveling him to the highest level you can (140)
Then run something like
Nemora
- Lucius
Arden - Saveas
Belinda or so
upbeat moat
@west finch try to swap arden and nemora position to charm his nemora; could also replace Seirus with Estrilda; Seirus isn’t that great at your level and estrilda can help with team survival
west finch
Oh i didnt know that ty
broken egret
@sour fossil ye the ones i got dont really match your unts, or are quite overleveled compared to you, but i would the lyca and lucius. You can try and rng it that way, if the silv causes too much of a problem with the swap you can swap fereal and tasi around as well so the silv lands behind luci again.
west finch
Lemme try both of those
cerulean hamlet
Mh yeah Estrilda will work too and preserve the faction bonus, though keep in mind that her team debuff is only after level 141 so for now she'll only debuff the enemy directly in front of her
broken egret
@sour fossil Something else that you can possibly give a try as well is use a fawkes, not sure who he will coffin, but might help you
marble bane
@cerulean hamlet thanks for the advise. I'm so much closer to win rn.
sour fossil
@broken egret thx, I haven't tried my fawkes
gilded fractal
help
swift crescent
Warek just destroying my team
broken egret
@swift crescent its a little more difficult since people cannot see all your units, but try the meta comp.
nem/arden
brut/lucius
tasi
lyca
shem
brut vs lucius is lucius if he can survive for a bit and get ulti off, if not brut might work better.
arden vs nem you will just need to see which works better
@gilded fractal try this one, does take a very large amount of tries to work. Have call on mehira, the plan is to make sure you charm skreg before he ulties, if you dont fight is pretty much lost
broken egret
@gilded fractal can be done with lower lyca as well, mine is only E+, and only has 2 M+ gear pieces. Same for gorvo, only E+ and no matching gear. However my nem was A.
Im not sure if the gorvo knockup actually worked on my winning try or not, but the main idea is that he stall for like half a second for your mehira to get ult off. Other units might work as well
gilded fractal
okay thanks!!! @broken egret
prime skiff
help
vernal bough
I could also use some help with 20-52
broken egret
@prime skiff would be nice to see all the units you have, however assuming you have all of them try:
lyca
lucius
nem
shem
tasi
Make sure the nem charms the fereal so he fears his own team with the ghost thingies
prime skiff
any artefact I should give them
broken egret
@vernal bough im not really good at making belinda comps since i never use her. But you can try something like
arden/nem(if boots are good your nem can charm before the arden root)
lyca
bel
lucius
rosa/tasi?
@prime skiff i would probably do call on tasi, blade on shem
vernal bough
I'll try that out. I've been putting Brutus in front of Sav because he is killing my whole team within seconds if I dont
prime skiff
only got the first 4 thanks for the input
vernal bough
RIP Sav wiped. I'll just soak some levels and try more later. Thanks for the suggestion though @broken egret
prime skiff
broken egret
@prime skiff ye if you dont have blade dont worry, try something like eye on shem in that case
visual quiver
man, I hate mehira stages. such a dogshit hero
cerulean hamlet
@naive crown replace arden with Tasi and make sure Nemora has higher defense than Tasi. Otherwise that's probably fine evt though Brutus over Lucius but if Luc can get his shield off he'll work too
naive crown
I’d use brutus but he’s only elite +
cerulean hamlet
His Ascension doesn't matter. He's above level 141 which means it should buy you enough time with that
naive crown
He’d get torn apart from the ascension difference
shy crag
Pls help. Stuck here for ages
cerulean hamlet
@naive crown Brutus at E works the same as M really, his immunity doesn't care about his ascension level so while M does more damage E usually gives you the same amount of time
pine cedar
Can someone help me on 4-36
cerulean hamlet
@shy crag Try get arden to level 141 then
Arden
- Brutus
Belinda - Lucius
Fawkes
Evt if you can get Estrilda to 141 too replacing brutus for her cn help too.
@pine cedar Sure, just post your hero lineup + stage 🙂
pine cedar
Ok
bleak robin
Edd's stage was easier for me using Nara iirc.
pine cedar
bleak robin
It fully disables one of the hypogean mages, so they don't hit the back line twice, and your units don't die or are weakened.
cerulean hamlet
Possibly! There's always multiple options. Though I don't see Nara in his lineup so arden to try disable might help too
orchid egret
I need help please, ive been trying to beat this stage for a few days now
cerulean hamlet
@pine cedar Uh, for now. Just level up your saveas further and get them all to 61 too but focus primarily on Saveas. That just looks like a power imbalance for now while you still unlock skills
@orchid egret
Arden
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Nemora
Nemora -> Charm enemy arden, maybe give her call if she doesn't charm fast enough/better boots if you have that
Arden -> Root Estrilda/Ira ideally
Also you can probs swap around the positions of Brutus and Shemira in the frontline depending on how fast shem dies.
orchid egret
Ok thx ill try that! 🙂
bleak robin
@cerulean hamlet Edd has a Nara! She isn't leveled and shown in the second photo.
orchid egret
Even with 5 stars M boots she doesnt charm arden before he roots 😒
cerulean hamlet
What if you give her dura's call? If you have blade shem should be fine with that so the haste from call can help
@shy crag Mh, if you do have a Nara you can put her in crystal and place her opposite of one of the hypo mages like Lokii said and see if that helps too 🙂
prime skiff
every damn stage kicking my ass
little musk
Tell me how bad my team is... 😦 I can almost l+ Lucius. Should I try to L+ saveas? Is there someone I should try to focus on. I know shemira, but I don't have the right fodder yet. My team right now is brutus, lucius, nemora, saveas, and vurk... slowing getting by, i'm at chapter 7, can't beat last boss in labyrinth... Any tips would help. Thanks for all the help so far guys... also if anyone has open friend list let me know, prefer to get more guildies on my friends list.
sour fossil
@broken egret thx, I used fawkes as nem replacement and it worked
broken egret
@prime skiff setup is fine, or you can swap for luci for brut, but other than that it's looking good
prime skiff
rng sucks, I just wanna see the statgazer
onyx basin
Light tower 95 help
viscid stirrup
@onyx basin fountain your hogan then switch him with your Estrilda
Thane maybe fawkes
Hogan
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
onyx basin
@viscid stirrup idea about artifacts?
if i replace fawkes, shemira kills me even faster
pale kettle
What artifacts to use? 24-48
west finch
Whatever i but on top gets murdered under 10seconds by kaz
upbeat moat
You need to reset someone and use the exp and dust to get shemira to 200; your carry shouldn’t be your lowest level
sleek stone
Reset nemora
quaint warren
Hello guys I could use some help on this one
faint mason
Which line up do u suggest?
pale kettle
@quaint warren Maybe this may work.
Arden
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca
If You see that shemira can never survive from Kaz change her place with Brutus
Be sure to put good boots and duras call on your arden so he can root first
quaint warren
It worked thanks, i tried several times but it worked. Weird thing when shemira was bottom arden was always outrooted if i can say, how come?
west finch
Any ideas for this one?
lost timber
5-12, anything i can do to optimize my team? Should i reset shem for saveas?
drifting badge
@upbeat moat @sleek stone I did this and it didn't work but ty for the help
lofty depot
@lost timber don't use the green heroes. Or Angelo. Use Saveas, Lucius, Hogan, Mirael and basically anyone else. Honestly this early all that matters should be the levels
smoky sphinx
Stuck on 20-42, tried rearranging them a few times but nothing seems to work.
pale kettle
I'm currently stuck on this stage and I can't seem to get further... Any suggestions?
lost timber
@lofty depot so i should reset shem for saveas?
ivory breach
10-16, any ideas?
what usually is happening is silvina kills arden, then lucius falls and the rest after
tryed ealier swap arden for tasi, silvina went for nemura, she didnt survived also, lucius did shieled but outcome was the same
light kite
silvanas lol
lavish pollen
try take more def to nemora than tasi and try until she doesnt tp between all once you get shield and probably sleep maybe you can endure it
ivory breach
silvina omg too much other game
light kite
You can try to get your tasy in there and make her weaker than your other heroes so silvina targets her. If she survives that you may be better
Silvina just targets the weakest hero, i think, in terms of defense power?
ivory breach
lowest def rating mage
light kite
You can even put her in front so she goes after what was previously your frontline hero
ivory breach
ok trying that, ty
light kite
she actually targets mages specifically huh
ivory breach
tried a bunch of stuff this worked, tyvm
west finch
Any idea what to run here?
delicate rain
Can I clear 10-16 with a team from this
pale kettle
@west finch Shemira instead of Estrilda and try Saevas instead of that mage old man
light kite
@west finch Use you carry. Have brutus tank the saveas
west finch
So brutus and saveas over estrilda and arden?
light kite
oh wait, i was looking at wrong players hero list
@west finch Isn't belinda your carry?
lucid iris
light kite
Jesus christ Igot confused by the images
lucid iris
19-38 help :c xD
west finch
@light kite she is
light kite
@west finch I'd probably just use brutus instead of estrila, and swap positions with lucius. tell me how well that works
west finch
Alright but i have a feeling ge's gonna get melted since he is still elite only
light kite
His last gasp makes him last no matter the dmg he takes
@west finch Placing Nemora across from Saveas will help too, if she charms him
west finch
I got passed it with lucky 5 crit chain with belinda .....guess that works
light kite
Nice
Brutus and nemora are very good vs saveas in general. Because he can tank no matter the dmg, and she can charm him so he kills his team
pale kettle
Hey there , ive been stuck for a while on chapter 11-something.. This is what i got. I use Lucius Brutus Belinda Estrilda and Saveas
light kite
@pale kettle You're using dual carry which I wouldnt recommend. It's better to have one carry that you just lvl higher than your other heroes. You can replace Belinda or Saveas with Nemora imo and I don't think Estrilda does much either, better off getting that Tasi in there I think
pale kettle
Saveas is top dps , belinda is useful some times for the raw dps.. The thing iwth estrilda is that im using her only for the faction bonuses
light kite
Factiopn bonuses aren't that important, they're a nice thing you can get, but your hero composition is more important
I'd just run saveas until lvl 160, and then replace him with shemira as he's dropping off.
pale kettle
so , should i change belinda-estrilda for a more support/control lineup? Like put nemora and tasi there
light kite
Yeah, because you only really need 1 hero that pumps out dmg, and the rest of your heroes just keep the team alive
pale kettle
yea thats my plans , but im not lucky with copies etc..
okay got you , thanks for the help
light kite
Tasi will obviously suffer to any silvinas, so replace her if you face any
pale kettle
Appreciate your time bro! Have a nice one
sterile canyon
Don't know how I'm supposed to beat this tbh (mauler tower of esperia floor 60)
light kite
@delicate rain you should screenshot both your heroes and the stage
@sterile canyon I am not looking forward to that stage. It seems you like need heroes that can burst the Lucius 1 by 1 or disrupt their ultimates in some way. Or a hero that removes buffs
delicate rain
This stage that someone posted earlier is the same
light kite
@delicate rain who is your carry?
delicate rain
This is my list. Probably Lucius tbh
light kite
Lucius isn't a carry
@delicate rain You should get someone in your team that can do a ton of dmg and overlvl them. Such as Saveas or Belinda. Shemira after she's lvl 160. You're just too tanky now and it's gonna impede your progression imo.
delicate rain
I’m probably gonna focus on leveling up shemira then because her survivability is crazy
light kite
You should pretty much always keep your carry as high as possible
@delicate rain Like so
delicate rain
Okay gotcha that makes sense
oak lance
stuck on 20-60 any help?
copper moon
@oak lance
neon basin
Any tips?
timid nest
@oak lance You use Nemora to charm Arden, right?
If so, resetting Lucius for 200 M+ Brutus might help taking down that faster with Lucas help.
upbeat moat
@neon basin I see youre trying to equally level all of your heroes; instead focus on overleveling a single carry (shemira in this case) as that will help you get furthest
As you are crossing the 161 threshhold, you can probably feed saveas to brutus and work on A brutus since you have the copies needed
cerulean hamlet
Probably keep Sav until you hit like 60 in mauler tower since they don't really have any other maulers but yeah, you can feed Sav soon
grand dragon
Can someone help me with that?
cerulean hamlet
@grand dragon
Lyca
- Shemira
Nemora - Brutus
Tasi
Try get Nemora to charm Arden so he roots his own team then pray for shem + tasi ult
modest lintel
22-42
raven cove
Need help on 18-16 please.
cerulean hamlet
@modest lintel If you have a rowan you can try this
Evt
Shem
- Lyca
Mehira - Brutus
Nemora
Could work too.
@raven cove
Tasi
- Brutus/Lucius
Lyca - Shemira
Nemora
modest lintel
@cerulean hamlet I do not have Rowan unfortunately
cerulean hamlet
Maybe a rowan merc then?
But eh, the mehira comp should be fine too
raven cove
This took me 10 tries and a lot of repositioning, but it worked. Thanks a lot! @cerulean hamlet
shell hamlet
GB tower floor 60
odd python
do you have nara or ferael?
kelthur isnt good in that position, ideally with kelthur you want to put him in a place where he swaps an enemy who aggros shemira, to take advantage of the bonus dmg
you probably want something like
ferael
shemira
isabella
grez/thoran
nara
shell hamlet
i’ve yet to get a Nara, @odd python and i’ll try to get a spot on the crystal for ferael any idea for a replacement for Nara?
odd python
you could try kelthur at the bottom and put shem back middle and see if she targets arden to kill him fast