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i got him, swap for hogan?
Yeah.
he was on crystallm just now but was swapping stuff and he got out of there idk why, but i got spce to put back
Fareal or Fawkes into the crystal now that i have more open spaces?
Fawkes. Fareal is useless for a long ass time.
Raine Rosa and Belinda is my favorite light beater back line.
Still getting nowhere, @torpid pelican
Bloody hell really?
Yes, really. Any other suggestions?
with gez was worst, but runned a few more tries swapped some stuff and got there , tyvm
Did u try thst first line up I said with the bee upgrades?
I can get down to two enemies remaining
First team?
@ivory breach good job man
@untold rivet broooo I taught u this!!! If u can get it down to two enemies u grind that rng till it gives u that win
@untold rivet lol whose surviving on the enemy side
Was the two in the bottom, but they just finally went down
I do need help with 22-42 buffed Skreg
Ok, will drop the names.
Back Line Top to bottom is Belinda, Mirial, Angelo.
Front Line Estrilda and Hogan.
@plain pewter Can you post what you got?
22-42 ( donโt mind my power none of my heroes equipped)
#classic-questions would suit you better for ascending/and stuff, this channel is mostly for stages in which you are stuck on. But you need to find someone who will deal most of your damage. Saveas Belinda or Shemira are good options. Select one of them and use all of your levels onto them until you can't anymore. then level the rest evenly @humble stream
Also, put brutus in your crystal when you have space ๐
@plain pewter That was the same setup i used to beat it, but my lyca did have the best possible gear...
@torpid pelican Did you see my list I typed for you?
@untold rivet visuals help a lot
Front brutus shem
Back belinda rosa nemora
Or
Back tasi Lyca arden
Sorry, I will do that next time
22-42
@plain pewter set Up wise.. mine is the same as you too. But think Shemira call
What were your levels?@fierce kayak
@plain pewter
I have a 2star khasos and Ghrez only Mythic Brutus
@plain pewter maybe merc a Brutus?
All on quests ones worth Mercing. May have to just wait
Feeling Lazy tonight, wanna see if anyone can come up with a team to beat this stage.
@fierce kayak Almost with this lineup
@plain pewter g luck mate
Been stuck at 21-26 for a week now any ideas?
@sleek stone Have you tried swapping Athalia for Tasi? Meta is always a good option
Tasi get bullied by silv
@sleek stone Reroll until she dodges. Or try a Fawkes for CC. It's a rough fight
Closest I can get to beating 22-42 lol
@sleek stone easiest way is to just reset lyca and make her 200 and use that to make shem 240
22-42 on 3rd attempt with this lineup! @fierce kayak
Well any ideas for this one? Been stuck here for weeks
@ionic quest swap out either arden or nem for tasi, if you wanna take out arden, make sure nem is middle back and able to charm enemy arden before he roots(requires good boots)
else just try this lineup
tasi
brut
lyca/arden
shem
arden/lyca
Have call on tasi in this setup, if it doesnt work(shem cant tank the damage for whatever reason), TRY
tasi
brut
arden
lyca
shem
Any tips for 15-36?
@rare karmaHey! The formation looks pretty good, but maybe. . .
Try switching out Brutus for Estrilda, so Isabella won't tear through your Tasi as fast or even interrupt both Khasos and Isabella with her charge!
Give her some better gear too ^^
Should work out!
(Drape for Estrilda)
Some stages can easily beaten with 4 wilders and shem without Brutus. Also max out library unions for better bonuses.
@wise merlin Nope. My Tasi still gets dunked on.
Stuck on Kings Tower 297
@rare karma Try this then :
Nara
Shemira
Tasi
Kaz
Nemora
Ok will do
@plain pewter wow.. brilliant. Gratz!
Lol
What artifacts should each one have @wise merlin ?
Oh right! What artifacts do you have? You can screenshot them if you'd like
Here ya go
@rare karma Drape for Nara
All the other artifacts can stay ^^
Ok
Your target is that Shemira will gain enough Ults off to peel through them all alone, try and make a good formation manipulating the faction bonus and advantage properly. ^^
Shemira dies quickly on frontline though?
Plus Khasosโ axe wipes out my Tasi @wise merlin
Still stuck here and open for suggestions!
@rare karmaI think you'd definitely want a L+ hero in your main 5 heroes to make your Crystal level cap 160, fighting with level 140 heroes is very risky and requires a lot of clutching.
Also, Tasi's level 141 is pretty powerful, reducing the cool down of her teleportation Everytime she's hit.
Good enough for hard mode?
@idle oriole seems fine i would say
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@idle oriole first time hardmode?
suggestions?
Plz help guys
@broken egret nah I just don't do it often but now my shemiras A I feel more confident in doin it lol
@idle oriole okay, just make sure to not go for the dark cart or whatever its called, its just a bait
Not sure if you skipped them or didnt get, but try to also take the kaz and the overall poison relic whenever you can, they melt wrizz
Will do thx ๐
btw isn't it worth to do hardmode everytime, even if it means expending a few dura's tears? Cause the wrizz drops are pretty amazing
@brave wagon yes its worth it if you can beat wrizz, but you cant use dura tear on wrizz, because once you lose he goes away
Still desperate. Best trys I run out of time to kill the last unit
22-48
@silk ingot Try using shemira instead of athalia
@rare karma nara nemora will help against Brutus. Estrilda on Brutus is suicide imo ๐
Silvina takes out my nemora instantly at the start regardless of where she is?
Nvm, got lucky with Shem ๐
@rare karma Silv goes for mage with lowest defence. You can place tasi to bait silv to her. Tasi can take away after first hit. If tasi def higher than nemora, switch or drop gears to make tasi lower def than Nemora
22-52
Anything?
@brisk heart You should really get a DPS carry like Saveas. I think Belinda would do for now:
Belinda
Hogan
Tasi
Thane
Lyca
Crazy as it sounds I donโt think Iโve drawn a single Saveas on this account yet lol
How do I beat those? Brutus fucks me
Can someone please help me with 15-36? Isabella and Khasos annihilate my team...
I just got took out by Niru ffs
I cleared that with meta team iirc, and my levels were 190 160 160 160 160
@rare karma meta team is brutus/shemira front and wilder trio (tasi, lyca, nemora/arden) in the back
I give up
unlock sig for shem and she should be able to 1v1 niru just fine
Nope
I made it after 15 tries
@vapid fulcrum good job
15-40. Any ideas? Just canโt seem to figure out who I need to murder this lot
@graceful hearth Maybe try Nemora to charm Ferael
Aight. Will see how it goes
Tasi keeps banishing Ferael smh. Nemora dies before she can charm him after the banish
swap out tasi for lyca?
So
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shem
Rowan?
Still stuck here if anyoneโs got any more ideas
@graceful hearth switch lyca and rowan to hit niru harder, maybe also arden for rowan for the faction bonus
Alright. Will give it a shot
Nemora keeps charming Niru. Ferael never gets bloody charmed
And the one time he IS charmed, Arden roots him
@graceful hearth If you get through that, tell me, stuck on same stage
Lmao will do. Probably wonโt be today though because Iโm in class rn
@onyx basin Does Thane outdamage belinda? or other way around?
Would it be possible to get advice on my best wrizz/soren teams please? I usually use lucius, brutus, nemora, shemira, saveas for both, but suspect that's sub-optimal.
Shem Belinda Lorsan Rosa Rowan will probably be better, you don't always need healing (sustain) for wrizz, but if your supports die super fast you can swap someone out for lucius
OK, is that for both soren and wrizz?
Do you have a baden lying around anywhere?
yes, elite, on the crystal
3
Baden is superb for guild hunt as he increases the damage enemies receive
for soren, you can run something like shemira lucius baden rosa rowan
alright, i'll try both those teams then, thank you!
Struggling with this kt floor any lineup suggestions?
Thoran +30 sig
. Instant cheat
Help needed for mauler tower 80
Khasos merc is probably the easiest way
@clear saddle sure, but in what formation?
I'm just wondering in general, because it might be better to take out one of them for another support
its so bad i cant kill even one of them
You do have faction disadvantage against majority of them though, so it's not all that surprising.
could try fawkes instead of one of them, or rosa instead of thane maybe
in mauler tower?
Oh, i was referring to your LB one
but for mauler, you need a good khasos merc, put him frontline and pray for rng that he crits and catches his axes as many times as possible
my mercs are super inactive do you have good khasos i can use?
Maybe ask in #mercenary my khasos is still pretty underwhelming
any help would be appreciated about lineups thanks
@rare karma try to get faction bonus
I am with Wilders, Tasi Lyca Arden at back
But Shemโs ult wrecks my team
And Ferael wipes my backline
Its always Shem and Ferael left
@rare karma try something like
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
15-40 is hell, so many of us are stuck there it seems ๐
@wind warren wait till you get to 23-24

holy i cleared 15-40
Arden L+ 141
Shem M+ 180 (16 sig)
Nem L 141
Brutus L 141
Lyca E 141
Got very lucky i think but more diamonds yaaay 
@clear saddle @lofty depot thanks for the nemora in the middle suggestion
Best ive done so far in mauler floor 80 is to kill two of them with thus comp, but i just cant beat it
that lineup is terrifying jesus
One of the worst
15-8. Feels like this shouldn't be as difficult as i'm finding it. Tried charming arden with nemora and using belinda too.
Does Lucius die instantly? Peronally i'd frontline Shem maybe even swap lucius for Rowan
Lightbearer tower floor 60
he usually survives to ult - i';ve come close to winning with shemira 1v4 but she can't dps enough
Should i change something? If teah what?
Why do you have vedan In when you have a mythic Brutus put Belinda in front take out purple and put in Arden
@twin hare you really need a lyca in the top left cuz ur nemora wonโt charm fast enough otherwise
@onyx basin
Brutus
Warek
Anyone
Anyone
Anyone
Just retry til you make it. Can try switching Brutus and Warek positions
@pale kettle i dont have an Arden other options?
@lofty depot my warek isnt even Elite+ how sure you are this is gonna work
I need a picture of ur heroes than
I tried it like 90 times without any success and someone gave me the lineup I just gave you and I finished it in 3 tries. You could merc a Warek if you need @onyx basin
@lofty depot i have merc warek but i can use him after 1 day and 8 h
You donโt even have an epic one ?? @thorny lagoon
You could always try it with yours, no harm in trying at least
18-40
@lofty depot so lets say
brutus
warek
Skreg
santrana
vurk
??
@pale kettle no i dont have one overall
@onyx basin Literally anyone works as long as you have Warek/Brutus at the top/front
best gear to whom? what about artifacts? (i have all of em)
Any help?
Don't know about gear or artifacts I didn't even change gear I just beat it
@sly shadow Fawkes if you have him
Even a blue one would work @thorny lagoon you really need to get one it helps progress so much
So fromtline : brutus and belinda
Backline: lyca, tasi arden?
@thorny lagoon ngl u should fodder vedan to shem for her to be m+ and take brutus out of crystal for him to be ur 5th
But hey thatโs just me
Will is right vedan isent really good sept maybe for gb tower
And yes that should work itachi just need ur Arden to root like once also put call on tasi if itโs not
Okay thx ๐
@lofty depot pretty bad, i cant even kill one like that
Any advice that I might be able to get around this or who should I build next to clear this?
Failed this one a few times now... 17-36
I'd wait for a merc then
@warm dagger try in this order of formation: 1. Rosaline 2. Lucius 3. Fawkes 4. Belinda 5. Athalia. Let me know how this works!
@silk ingot move your athalia to hit isabella and move saveas down with lucius, see if you can spam that a couple tries to see if it gets some progression!
@lofty depot omggg
Told you it would work haha, just keep trying
ok im taking it personally warek
@onyx basin Nice good job!
19-38 kaz steamrolls
Help
@bright peak Hey! Give this a shot :
Belinda
Hogan
Gwyneth
Lucius
Estrilda
Greater faction bonus, more likely to win due to additional attributes.
@scenic frost Try this!
Tasi
Shemira (make sure she doesn't get rooted)
Lyca
Brutus
Arden (root Ira, Ogi, and Lyca preferably, though rooting Kaz will also work!)
@haughty tide
Put Nemora instead of Khasos and charm the Saveas, formation should look like so :
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
thanks, @wise merlin ! I'll try that
It didnโt work because Shem dies to quick
Any ideas?
@pale kettle Yes! Try this out :
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
Grezhul
Nemora (charm Ankhira)
ah no dice this time ๐ lucius held out as long as he could but he was no match in the end! ๐
@haughty tide How many times have you tried to pass? Please do remember that Wilders have plenty of different outcomes due to cast RNG!
@wise merlin my shemira dies in like 1 second to kaz btw
Mine to, that is not rng
@scenic frost
Then try to sacrifice your Lyca to Kaz. ^^
@haughty tide Right, your enemies are much buffer than you but for @bright peak the window is slightly more open due to level comparison...
How's your stats looking like? Dodge / Health for Shemira?
she's woefully underdeveloped, i'm afraid. 71569 health, 0 dodge
i'll switch around some gear and see what i can do
Okay! Best of luck ^^
got Dodge up to 85 and Health to 93469. i'll try her out!
Ok imma try it out @wise merlin
Day 8. Stuck on 6-12 for over a day. What team should I focus on? Or should I pull for 10 a few more times?
what do you mean with "pull for 10 a few more times"? pull 10 for 2700 diamonds as soon as you have 2700 diamonds
aside from that, read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
@visual quiver guildies said to hold off on spending because some new heros were due...
@wise merlin ty that worked great
@pale kettle Nice! ^^
@wise merlin can you make me a team with khasos against kaz?
Sure thing, let me look at it again. ^^
Khasos usually kills kaz and almost Arden btw
@haughty tide
Shemira
Khasos
Grezhul
Brutus
Vurk
Providing 3-2 faction bonus, unsure of the result though.
The fact that you'd want 2 Mauler frontlines such as Brutus and Khasos and Shemira as a DPS will cancel out the Wilder trio tactic ensuring 3-0 faction bonus.
Best of luck!
any help would be appreciated, it's 21-52 ๐
@wicked pelican Swap the position of Tasi and Arden, root Saveas, Ulmus, and Lyca preferably.
Give it several tries ^^~
Lol, same stage @wicked pelican
@wicked pelican Or switch Arden for Nemora and place Nemora top so she roots enemy Arden and he roots his own team
@lofty depot Particularly small window considering enemy has a Lyca as well, also Ascension difference and level as well.
But I sure did see that happening before!
@wicked pelican this is the team that has worked the most for me
Also if he has good/bad gear can make a difference (for Nemora)
Might work for you
@lofty depot i tried this many times but he always roots first before nemora can charm him ๐ค
@wise merlin i'll try this, thank you
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Try that and make sure Arden roots Kaz and use Call on Tasi and pray that Shem survives Kaz until Tasi ults
@wicked pelican if you put khasos against kaz, he interrupts Ardenโs roots
22-42 any tips regarding this stage?
For mine I was just wondering if I should role with that team
Hi
Iโm wondering what faction I should use my scrolls from the Halloween event on
Very annoying level
What setup is the best for secret forest Wilderer only fight!?
Nemora + Ulmus + Eironn + Arden + Lyca is probably fine from what you have.
There's no need to beat it instantly with 5x wilders though so you can weaken the camp first with a non-full wilder team if you want and just finish it off with 5 wilders.
@whole terrace who does Fawkes coffin?
Tasi
Which is the reason he is there to stop her early banishes and hopes to get more energy/dmg in. She usually will banish 3-4 times in a match
Does Tasi banish Shemira if you leave her be?
Yeah banishes shem. Sometimes grez but rare
I see your problem lol. Iโm not sure if thereโs something you can do outside of trying to manipulate gear so Tasi banishes someone else, cuz an L+ Fawkes is not gonna do u much good outside of keeping Tasi from ruining your comp
Yeah sometimes fawkes can ult and remove a banish but thats it
What you could try is adding 240 Belinda to your team with higher atk than Shem so she gets banished instead of Shem, or just afk more to get Rowan to 240
Im about a day out of rowan 240
Yeah just wait for that then, I think itโll help u clear the stage easier
And with a lot less headache lol ๐
Probably get him at reset. Ill try that. Thats kinda what i was thinking. I usually float between Belinda/shem 240 depending on how the levels are toing
Why is my arden not rooting!?
Can Anyone help with 15-40? Fereael wrecks me every time
I am not sure which heroes to focus on atm. I have about 20 faction scrolls also and was thinking about using them on graveborn. Any input at all is greatly appreciated โบ๏ธ
@barren river I would advise focusing on the trio wilder's ( lyca nemora and tasi ) they will help out tremendously in the long run
@rare karma sent you DMs for that lineup, I'd reccomend mercing a fereal to replace arden. Hopefully others can pitch in on this as well.
@willow eagle thanks a lot โบ๏ธ
@willow eagle should I still focus on Nemora and Tasi even though I have none of them so far? Like Wilder is the faction now so should I use my scrolls on it ?
@barren river it would be beneficial to start working a variety of wilder's as it will help a lot. If you end up without wilder's (great utility and cc faction) you may find yourself stuck more frequently
@willow eagle Oki doki, cheers :D
Should I put someone else in crystal here? I have been stuck here for what feels like months but has been maybe a week lol. Khasos cannot stay alive even behind Brutus. They're all pretty undergeared minus Brutus.
Safiya is a good option. ๐
Safiya is a good option indeed. She is used a lot to pass mauler towers. (Personal experience)
@ashen schooner @willow eagle safiya as opposed to who?
Numisu, Iโd say.
Well I got through to 100 but stuck again currently
Help
@haughty tide Didn't any of my lineups help?
What line ups, you never gave me any. I mean there was another guy on the same stage
Yes didn't you try those?
No, those werenโt for me, they were for another person on the same stage called neg
I know but since you were on the same stage and you were in the chat at the same time I figured you try them, anyways try:
Arden
Shem
Tasi/Mehira
Brutus
Lyca
Put call on Tasi
Make sure Arden roots Kaz so Shem survives
If I put khasos against kaz, he kills her and makes Arden not use his roots. With Shem against kaz, she dies instantly
Well khasos almost kills kaz and sometimes kills her
Does Shem die every time? Because I had to retry that stage a ton of times for Arden to root Kaz until Shem survived
Shem
Lyca
Tasi/Mehira
Brutus
Arden
Didnโt work, pretty sure the only thing I can put against kaz is khasos
you need a 240 shem asap. you won't beat ch22 with 220
I beat it with the lineup I posted, I've never used Khasos in campaign since I was at like chapter 4
If Khasos works best for you then use him but then I can't help you haha
no
Hi just kinda starting out in the game. I hit a wall where I think I just need to grind out some EXP, but can my lineup be improved from what I'm using now?
Yes Belinda out for lyca or the totem guy
Max saveas Salveas will be your carry till level 160 keep him leveled above all others
okay thanks
14-20 needs the helps plz :3
faction tower 60 this is the best I can do right now any tips for lineup placement/WHEN to burst the neverending healstream of lucius
@torpid wedge a safiya would be very beneficial here instead of antandra and also a marek instead of numisu as you will need max damage
@spare stratus you have a great start, if you can add tasi and or nemora to your box then you will be looking good and set up for the latter progression
... so no help for me :/
@quasi crag I'm analyzing your screenshots currently
Thanks!
Lolol just teasing thanks take your time i know you all get to us as soon as you can
can only use one merc and none of my friends have a safiya and I have yet to get the sphinx girl myself >.>
@quasi crag if you can merc a stronger tasi or nemora that will help however, lyca-grezhul brutus-golus tasi-khasos shemira-vurk and nemora-saveas with ample rng should win it. If tasi banishes saveas instead of khasos then swap her position with nemora so you can maximize charm potential on enemy dps.
@torpid wedge this should win against that with ample rng again in this order from left to right. Brutus marek vurk khasos safiya. You dont nessecarily need marek so you can end up using antandra but safiya will be needed.
I beat that cancerous mauler stage with an ascended warek mercenary
Floor becomes so easy if thane dies early
I've had thane die once here ive killed a lucius once there rng is really a pain
I'm lvl 137 and I find I have less higher tier heroes than other players at the same lvl, which heroes should I focus on when ascending?
@drifting badge besides the heros at M+ I would focus on the wilder trio, Lyca tasi (nemora which you have) these three heros when used together are arguably still the best trio in game for pvp and pve.
thank you very much <3
@drifting badge for that stage try this : brutus lucius fawkes shemira nemora in this exact order going LEFT to RIGHT representing positions ONE to FIVE.
@brave wagon For that stage try this: shemira lucius fawkes belinda arden in this excact order from LEFT to RIGHT and in the positions of ONE to FIVE appropriately. This may be hard due to the sheer difference of levels and some key heros missing to counter that enemy team however, I still think we can win if we try hard enough with ample amount of RNG!
@willow spruce for that stage lets try this: lyca ulmus nemora fereal arden in this exact order from LEFT to RIGHT representing the positions of ONE to FIVE. I think with proper utilization of CC and proper RNG of that CC you can easily win this by a battle of sustenance.
Iโm stuck on the 90th floor of tower, thinking that I just canโt pass this stage at this point. Any last team comps I should try out before giving up on it for the time being?
Never mind, I just beat it.
What faction should I spend 50 scrolls on
@worldly cedar I would spend them on LBs if i were you, seeing you have two very important LB heros already at L and have extra copies of them.
So far im using lucius, lyca, tasi, arden, saveas. Any better lineups i can use?
@strange plaza just by looking at your enemy composition it's going to be quite rough without a brutus can you get that as a merc?
So many Belindaโs. Am jealous.
@hollow thistle you can look into using nemora instead of arden eventually, she achieves the same goal of arden put does not fall off as hard as arden will eventually.
@willow eagle all my units are sitting at 141 at the moment, at what point does arden fall off?
@pale kettle Try taking out Lucius and putting Tasi where he is now. Move Arden to the bottom and have Nemora up top. If you can have Nemora charm enemy Arden you can get lots of roots.
@pale kettle try this for that stage: tasi lucius nemora lyca shemira in this exact order from LEFT to RIGHT and in the positions ordered from ONE to FIVE. If this doesnt seem to work as well try to replace lucius for brutus if it is a matter of survivability of lucius.
@hollow thistle I want to say he is viable up until the point where Ascension on enemy stages > yours by 2 tiers. so chapter 23? or around lvl 160. I may be off on this since its been a long while for me.
Arden falls off around chapter 21.
@pale kettle correct as this will give you your best results.
I fed mine to Tasi at the start of chapter 22. Blood for the blood gods.
Yeah so i was close to it ๐ its been so long for me thanks for helping me confirm that @woven nimbus
So, whatโs the secret to getting past this floor?
Tfw Whale forgets what itโs like to be at level 220. Feels bad man. Here I was proud of my progress.
220+ Skreg @robust forum
Damn lmao
@robust forum
Holy crap, I need to build up Skreg now
You can merc him
WTB friend with 5 star Skreg
Hi! I need help with my team for Soren, any recommendation is welcome TY
Depends on who you got and at what level
what I use
Do you have Baden? Baden is godly on Soren.
Baden, Warek or Twins would do better instead of Kaz just to avoid charms so your team has time to deal more DMG
If you can get Baden into Res crystal, even at L+ he will do wonders for you. If you get unlucky with his clones, force close the game before the battle ends and try again.
Yeah Warek, Baden and Twins work at E for your level
๐ฅ didnt knew that.... ok so I will takee that into consideration plus the heroes you have told me! Ty Ty!!!
@mild spade Iโm obviously a lower level with my heroโs so ignore the damage, but you can see what Baden does on Soren with his screams. Helps massively.
@woven nimbus so they get behind amd the scream goes the other way great!
I will try to focues on him
Last stage chapter 20
Do you normally run LB?
@ashen schooner usually running Brutus Lucius Shemira Rowan Belinda
Best soren formation?
Belinda
Shemira
Lyca/Rowan
Brutus
Athalia/Nemora @devout idol
@frosty axle shemira lucius baden rowan rosa should be good
@clear saddle ok lemme try
Please help me i have been stuck here for ages
@visual quiver try this: lucius ezizh belinda rowan estrilda for your first team and also try brutus grezhul shemira fereal nara for your 2nd time. this is the best comps i see being built around your hero box. your third team can also be used as a brutus kaz lyca tasi nemora. all heros are to be read from LEFT to RIGHT and ordered as they were presented from ONE to FIVE in positions.
ok, thanks! Guess I need to somehow get a lot of equipment for my heroes. I literally only have 2 M mage sets, 1 1/2 M tank sets and 1 M agility set. rest is L+ and below
Prioritize higher gear on the higher ascended heros too
@glossy furnace you have 7 L heroes... Dont ascend chars to L if you dont have 4 copies of the char
@ripe beacon why
because first, the power doesn't increase by much from e+ to L and second because you don't know when you will get the 2 copies for L+. could be months before you get those copies so you wasted 2 e+ fodder heroes for e+ to L
^^
Should i acsend the 2 L+ i have to myth and replace it with L?
please ask questions that aren't about lineup in #classic-questions
I need a lineup for demonic entity, any ideas?
is this the right choice?
Or should I have invested in some other units? really just trying to unlock resonating crystal slots..
Which is the best comp I can make for Soren?
anyone recently pass 22-42? i'm losing my mind
@unborn bramble https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609275505526439974/641993675710136372/Screenshot_20191107-201626.png
Let me search for another I'll tag you
Just sharing for people in the future who get stuck on 22-42 (A big thank you to Tuesday for sharing his line-up). I was stuck on it for a week with over 200 tries and this line-up allowed me to clear it in about 15 tries.
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Blade on Shem, Call on Tasi, Grace on Lyca, Drape on Brutus, Eye on Arden
This level is really dependent on Lyca distracting the Skreg from Shemira so she can get 2 or 3 Ultimates off.
@still oar i already saw ur msg of that earlier when i searched. tried it like 100+ times. didnโt work
A sec let me check for sure since it's tasi
@iron kelp
@willow eagle thank you so much!
My Lucius is e ๐ญ never pulled him one before. Apart from the compensation from lilith gods
I used
Lyca;grace
Brutus;sword
Tasi;chalice
Shemira;call
Arden
@iron kelp. Probably root tasi
@still oar I wanna kiss you rn ๐
Hi can I get some help with a good comp? Stuck on 9-39
Stuck on 19 6, and KT 208, any help would be hugely appreciated
Help
@pale kettle Try this for a good comp on 9-39 - brutus shemira saveas tasi nemora - in order from LEFT to RIGHT and respectively in that order from positions ONE to FIVE.
@sterile canyon Could you provide screenshots of the specific stage and kings towers?
@haughty tide try this for that specific stage - brutus shemira nemora tasi lyca - in order from LEFT to RIGHT respectively representing positions ONE to FIVE in formation lineup. If this does not work try something similar like this - brutus lyca nemora tasi khasos. Let me know if one of these are working better for you!
Didnโt work, the problem is Warek
It worked!! Thanks a lot! Im stuck on 9-40 now LOL
help plz!
@pale kettle awesome! glad it worked! feel free to post 9-40 too ๐ also @haughty tide what has been your best attempt so far?
@clever cedar try brutus lyca nemora shemira tasi - in this order from LEFT to RIGHT in respective order positions of ONE to FIVE. Lets see if minor formation alters can give you better results before we decide to add in experimentation to beat that stage.
My best attempt has been nobody in enemy team dead
Oof
Guessing I need silvina bait?
@idle oriole Possibly! let me have a look. . .
I'd suggest a formation like this :
You'd need a Silvina bait, but you'd also need some faction bonus to be able to survive further with more HP and ATK added (3-0 hands out 10% more HP and ATK for free to your stats.)
How about this :
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Give your better gear to Arden so Silvina jumps on Nemora and Belinda, Kaz, and Mirael will be rooted.
If Arden gets instantly shutdown by Kaz's dart, swap Nemora and Arden's positioning.
@delicate kiln Swap Nemora and Shemira's positioning, charm enemy Ankhira, and Interrupt Ferael, that should be enough honestly! ^^
^ I've corrected my post.
Yea tried that. Not working so well unfortunately
Thoughts on 12-30?
Nem charms brutus instead and then gets cocooned
Ah rip.. then maybe with better boots she'll be able to cast it faster so you could try it multiple times?
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@trail wraith Swap your frontline positioning, and I'd advice you should put Belinda instead of Tasi, since you have 2 Lightbearers, ensuring 3-0 faction bonus! (+10% ATK and HP)
Actually @wise merlin that worked just swapped duras eye to nem and that did the trick
Thanks mate
Well. I thought I wouldnโt need to ask on this one but apparently the LB donโt care that I have faction bonus lol fawkes gets my shem immediately
I tried nem where tasi is and also tried swapping tasi for lyca for the haste
@delicate kiln Swap the positioning of Nemora and Tasi, charm Ankhira, same trick might work here as well.
Formation :
Baden
Shemira
Tasi
Grezhul
Nemora
Lifesaver man. Thanks again.
Welcome. ^^
Added you.
Probably wonโt be making much more progress on this character tonight so I may be posting some from my alt soon
That's no problem, but please keep this channel for help posts, I try to refrain casual conversations here. ^^
What do you recommend for wrizz/soren? I am getting around 59 million on wrizz and 30 million dmg on soren.
I am using shemira, rosaline, baden, estrilda, lucius (with duras call for almost perfectly timed ults)
@restive mauve Instead of Lucius, try Belinda, her attack buff might be worth it.
For me, I have an Ascended tier Belinda, and Legendary+ tier Lucius, whenever I use Lucius, my damage stays on around 87ish damage for Wrizz, but all my characters live.
When I use Belinda, solely for her "Blessing" ability, all my characters receive more damage, and I cap up at 119 million damage, maybe even more.
I need help on the 127 gb floor
@restive mauve also you could try athalia instead of estrilda. She works better on my team personally and mines only e+
@restive mauve and put call on rosa
@dark current swap shem and farael try and stop raines buffs and if isabella can take it then swap her and thoran to try and get eironn out faster.
@dark current but if that doesnโt work you may wanna try and hold off until nara or thoran are a little higher depending on your gear
Hey guys any help is very appreciated
Well nice
I keep almost getting it. This is my alt and f2p so iโm open to some suggestions. Already tried lucius instead of estrilda but he needs to be e+
@dark current congratz. Glad I could help
Now help me beat 21-54 with my roster. Or tell me who's worth investing so i can beat this wall.
Yikes. Lemme think on that one for a sec
See, these guys die instantly. Now I could use Vurk and such, but I think they also melt. Nevermind E+
Try swapping lyca for nara and then switching nem and tasis positions. What artifacts are where also
I got up to Chalice and they are all level 2 if that matters
I meant where are they as far as characters
@lone shale
I've won that stage by putting Estrilda instead of Brutus, her damage reduction knockback ability at the first stage of the game helps a lot by reducing Lyca and Ira's DPS.
And my heroes were worse than yours back then ^
And yet you're 23? Impressive. Still, I'll attempt both of your strats. I just thought Estrilda is toilet paper in a storm because she always died around me
Take his advice if mine doesnโt work out. Iโm only at 21-12 so. But no estrilda is great for certaib situations
@wise merlin any advice on my alts predicament?
Sure, just send your screenshots, whether it be in DMs or here, both will work me for me ^^
See above unless you want me to repost
I would love help!
@silk ingot post a pic of the rest of your team please
@wise merlin it worked! And i thought Estrilda was lame since she died so quick. Whatever she did made it work! Thank you!
@lone shale You're welcome 
Well @wise merlin youโre 2 for 2 and iโm 1 for 2 lol
Don't consider it a competition. ๐ You're doing great, let me refer to this post now ^^
*your post
Alt repost
Estrilda against Vedan, Gorvo against Stexius, Lucius instead of Shemira, 4-0 Faction bonus.
@delicate kiln
Ah only 1 problem. I donโt have enough str gear for all 3 of those. Iโd have to take gorv or erst out to be able to use lucius
Gorvo it is then, your Belinda will be your DPS while Fawkes is slowly kiting
Now here's this hideous lineup. Any way to take on team Wilder or now is the wall of death?
21-60 for reference of course
@lone shale Estrilda instead of Brutus,
Nemora in-place of Lyca, since enemy has no Lyca, you can easily charm Arden to root 3 enemies, that will give you lots of RNG opportunities.
Try multiple times.
@silk ingot swap nem for shem and ulmus for brutus. The swap arden and savs spots
@wise merlin AND YOU DID IT AGAIN, I DECLARE YOU FOREVER MORE AS MY FAVORITE PURPLE
Congratulations. ๐
Will try thx!
@wise merlin i reach about the same dmg values aus before with belinda
Did you switch some gears around? what about Artifacts?
@delicate kiln only change estrilda and add athalia? Or change lucius too
@wise merlin
Blade on shem
Call on rosa
Grace on Belinda
Eye on baden
Chalice on estrilda
Do you have conviction?
@restive mauve personally I run shem rosa belinda lucius and baden. So if you can survive long enough without the lucius then go for it. My friend manages over 200 mil with my setup but his are higher
@wise merlin
No i cannot get that far yet in peaks of time
Swapping artefacts belinda-baden resultet in 2,5mil dmg more, reaching 61,5 :)
Congratz. Yea eye on belinda for sure. And baden does well with grace
Anyone got a suggestion for me?
Made it here by myself
@delicate kiln estrilda with SI and higher level is a really good support with her buffs on baden shadows :)
Thats why i use her much on guild boss
@delicate kiln at this lvl range, saveas is really strong, especially if you level him as far as possible ahead.
Maybe try something like
Saveas
--brutus
Lyca
--gorvo
Nemora
Hi any advice for 23-10 ?
I would recommend to focus on wilderer faction scrolls in the future to get tasi, and more of lyca and nemora. Dont put so much heroes on L, concentrate your fodder and push 5 easily accessible heroes to Ascended lika shemira, estrilda, thoran ... @delicate kiln
@restive mauve haha I know this is an alt.
@restive mauve what about me?
@pale kettle take out sav and hendrick, and put in arden and tasi/lyca.
@pale kettle still thinking what to do ๐
I would try to add arden as support to your backline instead of rosa and see how this plays out.
In general try out tasi (with duras call), lyca, arden backline with saves lucius in front. But i dont think in this fight it will do that much
For strategy i would try to bring down angelo as fast as possible. If it takes too long to burst him down, concentrate your dmg on the bottom side to kill saveas then morvus. It should be exposed after their khasos used his ult. If you want to burst saves, try this (reverse it for angelo burst)
Rosa
--hendrik
Belinda
--lucius
Saveas
@versed canopy its a wall, ypu need lvls
@pale kettle give belinda duras call so that she can ult as fast as possible. If you need more sustain add call to lucius. Maybe hendrik is more useful botside, i don't own him yet
@versed canopy if you have arden, this is 1 of the lvls he helps heaps
Hi I'm stuck at 7-32. Any ideas for a different comp or something?
Got killed pretty easily. It's weird because i had no problem defeating previous boss levels but this one seems like a sudden high wall
I can borrow heroes tomorrow. Which heroes do you recommend i borrow?
I can borrow heroes tomorrow. Which heroes do you recommend i borrow?
@stuck sparrow put rowan in back middle put silv top back and nara across from arden
@pale kettle what is that a stage or tower?
@stuck sparrow if that doesnโt work let me know
Any advice for this stage or i just need more xp?
@delicate kiln i tried a couple of times with no good results. They Just heal too much and I don't have enough dps in this comp to counter it I think
@delicate kiln I would suggest trying belinda instead of rowan then for some extra dmg. If that doesnโt work iโd just wait a bit and lvl up. Sometimes the wait game is required. Itโs called afk for a reason unfortunately lol
@strong hazel probably just lvl, you can try to use your own arden, and maybe get a lucky win 1 time where he roots the correct targets
I'm at 20-37 not even close to passing that stage
@latent basin link what the stage looks like too
@latent basin swap lyca for tasi or farael. Throw duras eye on arden and call on tasi or farael
already tried alot with tasi too and ferael does nothing for me
@latent basin i was stuck at this stage for a long time too.
I borrowed an ascended skreg which did the job for me instead of brutus. My shem was 220 with si +20 and lyca 200 with si +10 though
Need line-up for tower 285
@pale kettle yes!
15-20. Anything I can do to win this? Cleared most fights this chapter fairly easily but this one is proving tricky.
and i've tried swapping lucius/shemira and nemora's positioning
nvm cleared it
Would either of these squad setups be worth working towards at all or not really? Any tips or amything would be appreciated.
Keep in mind that all i need is an epic of each hero that isn't and ill have the required 2+ elite+ heros required for making them acended.
@twin hare just a general tip for a comp that might work better for you, try using brut/lucius with shem frontlne and a backline with something like tasi/nem/arden
@ancient raptor both those comp seem kinda suboptimal to me, i think something like 3wilders,fereal,tank might work out better
@ancient raptor especially a leveled up lyca sig(lvl 20) +fereal does wonders
@broken egret thanks, i will. A lot of my decent picks aren't ascended (e.g. elite tasi, most LB still elite, etc), but i'm working on it
@twin hare ye good thing abuot wilder is that they dont need ascension as badly
yeah i'm also learning that there's a lot to be said for just stalling for shemira ult
@broken egret bummer i was hoping to mix it up a little been using the old lyca tasi nem with brutus shemira combo for ages now haha at chapter 22-24 now
Help
@versed canopy Are you still stuck there? i have a screenshot for that stage. Not sure if your heroes are a match with mine though
20-37. Too much heals when shemira can finally ult after being phased out
@clear saddle yes still at 23-10, the heroes i use are mostly the one you see at the bottom but why not
What I used
Good Soren lineups?
stuck on 9-8 pls help
@sterile orchid maybe send the stage?
Your five leveled characters should be: Hogan, Saveas, Vedan, Arden, Mirael. In my opinion. You always want to level your highest tier and then you can put your "niche" elites in the resonating crystal.
@sterile orchid
thank chu!
Don't be afraid to try swapping shemira out, too. She picks up more around 141, in my opinion. She feels sloppy for me before then.
ahhhh okai thank u
@ember bane what formation did you use for 23-24 how did u do it?
Anybody got any advice for this stage i feel like im at a point that i cant progress past until i level my heros more and ascend a few others. Have try many many formations but no luck even making a dent so far
23-24 i need all the help in the world
Anyone has a tip for me? ๐
@onyx basin Use thoran with sig
use where?
I beat it with 240 lucius 230~ thoran with sig (merc) 240 shemira 240 lyca 220 brutus
Try it with nemora thoran shemira tasi/lyca brutus
@onyx basin passed it today: -nemora
----Hasos
-Tasi
----Brutus (merc)
-Lika
maked about 140 tries
Lyca gets insta killed by athalia
Not everytime . He can dodge first hit
Dies every single time
I tried to use toran, but mine is too weak agains atalia. maybe your friends have more powerful version. Some times before toran helps with atalia
And btw .. yes.. my 2* hasos maked alot more damage vs this setup then shemira
@onyx basin btw i'm not trying to beat higer lvl now. Just use technologies, that helps to get Mythic gear ... anyway awaiting for 5th teammember lvlup to 240
@rustic blade swap lucius-shemira and change lucius to nemora
@rustic blade or use grezhul instead of lucius. He will helps with skeletions
Upgraded skreg just pwns ๐ญ
Should i keep grezhul and thoran as a tank?
@jaunty compass both are pretty good , but only if you will get some copies ๐
You mean, is just worth if i can get them to L or above?
The only one that o have was hogan, but used as food to have belinda to L
@jaunty compass sure, they are useful. You have no Lucius or Brutus now. ๐
Ok :) ty! I'll keep them forwhile
What is a good lineup for the Halloween event
@digital cloud Raine-lucius-belinda-shemira-thane
@pale kettle -lika
----shemira
-Tasi
----Brutus
-Nemora
it does not work, they destroy me :/
@pale kettle -lika
----shemira
-nemora
----Brutus
-tasi
Any suggestions?
@fading cipher switch nemora-lika. Idea to charm enemy arden
and use something instead of you arden for anything. even kaz
I'll try
as i remember i used toran instead of Arden, and when enemies thane killed him, he got fear
Thanks for the advice, gotta keep trying to spam
@split locust i would say no, dont use ascended tier units as fodder
Is baden any good?
baden is good
very good
can have great damage reduction with 3 or more phantoms
So bad
Thx will try it out
Bad Iโve been hard stuck on 16-40 also. Itโs rough
iโm kinda lost advice would be appreciated
Thoughts on 12-38?
@pale kettle focus on ascending saveas, he will be your main dmg dealer early on. Try to use arden instead of nemora if you own one.
Maybe try something like
Belinda
--grez
Rowan
--thane
Nemora
Ferael isn't that good early on
rowan in the backline?
@surreal summit swap out safiya for arden. Maybe lucius is more usefull as well
Khasos
--hogan
Mirael
--lucius
Arden/athalia
Try to swap around dura artefacts too. Like call on mirael or lucius might do a difference
@pale kettle yes, center backline :)
Hello, I need help. Which ones are trash and on which should I focus to ascend?
Once i get ascended saveas where should i put him
@trail wraith i would swap out belinda for arden. If you go for faction bonus, ditch the lightbearer
Arden
--brutus/lucius
Nemora/tasi
--shemira
Nemora/tasi
@pale kettle depends how strong he is. Backline for begining, later on Frontline.
If he gets cc'ed too hard, put arden behind him for support
16-36
@proper mantle there are very little trash heroes in this game.
For ascending dont fodder with ascended tier heros like seirus.
Push saveas as far as possible. In early game he will be your strongest carry, so lvl him the highest (if possible).
Nemora is a good choice for ascending. You want to focus on ascending 5 heroes to ascended, which are obtainable through shop like shemira, nemora and so on
Arden only roots successfully where he is for some reason
@idle oriole swap shem and lyca and put duras eye on arden it makes him cast roots faster
@shell hamlet beat it earlier with this :
Lyca
-shem
Nemora
Arden
@delicate kiln oh fr I thought it was the call but thx I'll try it
@idle oriole missing 1 person lol
@shell hamlet looks like you need to wait for some lvl
Atleast you can swap brutus/shemira. You want your Frontline to face the enemies of a faction, which is weak to your Frontline heroes
Brutus front line opposite Kaz @shell hamlet
@idle oriole no call is for ults. Eye is for passives and his roots are technically passive
@delicate kiln ty ๐
15-34
@faint bay pic of the rest of team please
@faint bay if you have duras eye put it on arden and swap arden and rowans spot. If that doesnโt work iโd try swapping lyca for fawkes and see how that goes
Less chance for ank to not cocoon the better
Ty @restive mauve your recommendation worked and it helped me push through 20 stages thereafter
@onyx basin still stuck at 23-24 you need to reach all hero at 240 to defeat this stage
@faint bay i find thรฉ following lineup to ne extremely useful you should try it : Shem - Brutus Front and Rowan - Lucius - Fawkes back
Any ideas? This team is kicking my ass
use nemora to charm his arden ?
10-20. Any other team I should try or try to get some L ascends
do you have a fawkes ?
Need some help again
@trail wraith no problem, glad it helped :)
@slender wedge try swapping shemira/brutus. You can win if nemora/arden gets the enemy arden.
When kaz kills your shemira too fast, try to put her in the backline and nemora in Frontline. (Lyca can work, but i guess you need her with higher ascension lvl for that)
maybe try lyca in front of ogi and arden - nemora - Tasi in the back
and retry hella times
hello gamers may i request some help
Shem-Brutus front
Belinda* - Brutus front sorry
Rowan - Rosaline - Fawkes back
Brutus should tank saveas nicely while fawkes bans khasos
thank you! that worked
Need some help 24-14
is fera your carry ?
What floor
yee @pale kettle
60
Try to use Nara and fararel, fareal is a graveborn Arden , and nara should be able to cancel the Arden
need to put them in crystal have only e+ farael and e nara
@void tartan I just ascended and am still playing shem in campaign for the moment so can't help much but i'd say lyca - Thoran front and tasi nemora fera back
Would love help!
could you show your whole box ?
Any help? @pale kettle no fawkes
Yourโe lacking a healer in that team
(If y was you I would focus on Lightbearers to get Rosaline and Rowan)
I could buy nemora at lab but waiting 3 days to get shen to l+
Is this a good lineup?
Yeah keep buying Shem thatโs better
DM me @silk ingot it will be easier
Is niru a good unit? He seems to mess up my team's a lot when I do quests
I need help please
@orchid egret try using arden instead of nem to stop tasi banish and look down the nem
Okay thx! @broken egret
New to the game. Im using the top row. Is that best for now?
Those are great for like ever. You got very lucky.
The top row?
Who should i start working on now that i ascended shem?
Nemora make her A safely @pale kettle
22-50
Try
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Lyca
Athalia
Charm nemora and seirus or just seirus. And if you can produce Arden try Arden instead of athalia and maybe worth a try to use mehira instead of Rowan.
As for artifact maybe call on mehira, Rowan or shemira.
Eye might be on nemora so he can charm seirus multiple time @whole terrace
I would try Brutus tbh; also try charming different ppl with nemora (arden/ seirus). Its also an option to reset shemira and go for Belinda to pass this stage
What's a good team comp for legends' championship without celestrial/hypogean heroes to possibly squeeze into round of 64
@rigid wadi I would focus on a 5 wilder faction team that consists of ulmus tasi lyca nemora but can be flexible with kaz, eironn or seirus. if this does not work in your favor - you can also flex with lightbearers using a 5 faction stack as well, this usally consists of lucius estrilda fawkes belinda rowan and can even adapt with hendrik as well as rosaline. these two teams if you build them right will definetly get you past group stages. (from personal experience :D)
@burnt magnet the best way to beat that current stage is experimenting and finding out who does what on your team. 1. Who does tasi banish? 2. Who does Fawkes coffin? 3. can you add that with a Nemora charm to benefit your team the most. Lets try this for experimentation and go from the results off this team to base more team experimentations: Tasi(1) Lucius (2) Nemora(3) belinda (4) Rowan(5). I can see you winning this using this comp however, if it does not work please let me know who is dying first on your team over multiple tries and also please let me know is doing first on their team (if any)
Lineup for lab?
@willow eagle thanks for the suggestion, but doesn't legend champion just ignore the faction bonus?
or are they just goood pairing together
@rigid wadi It does not ignore faction bonuses, it ignores the faction advantage against teams a.k.a (hypo -> cele) or (wilders -> graveborns)
oh k, thanks
@willow eagle I thank thee
tryd Different Teams but fail. any advice is helpfull
@wind glade try this: lyca(1) brutus(2) Estrilda(3) shemira(4) nemora(5)
if you can get a tasi merc to replace estrilda that will be even better, also lyca will be your winning bet here if she can dodge ogi's throw while brutus can tank the hits from kaz and arden. keep in mind that nemora charming arden will also be a big game changer.
oki ty i try
How can i make my lineup better @willow eagle
I feels way to weak tbh for 16-40
@pale kettle I would play skreg in front of saveas (which you should ascend) right now you are lacking a tank
who should i take off for skreg
You should remove Kelthur
And you might even want to try out saveas on the Front line if you overlevel him and take him to legendary plus
with Nemora - Rowan - Arden back
yeah im trying to get enough to ascend him
The Eironn Skreg combo is really nice but you should play eiron in the back corner and skreg front next to him
Who should i put frontline besides skreg than
Looking for help on 20-41 was doing well but got stuck here all suggestions taken
Eventhough he's considered low tier Ogi might be a good fit for now
Hi @river gazelle Ideally You would want to charm the opposite team's arden with nemora
On this stage if you play the wilder trio though silvina will probably cc nemora
You might want to try to put Shem - Lyca front
and Arden - Nemora - Tasi in the back
Ok Iโll try thanks
you could also try with rowan instead of arden, he'll die but you'll have the potions
oh wait nevermind you don't have him
Nope itโs all good I beat the stage thanks for the help
congrats !
Should I combine the first three for a higher tier hero or keep them until I get more?
@proud lodge keep them
Never use ascended heroes as fodder
Oh ok thanks.
U can read ascensions guide from pinned message in #classic-questions
Stuck on 15-40
Everytime a Ferael comes up the best thing to do is to charm him using nemora
You'll need Lyca as well to charm him before he launches his demons @upper star
So the best thing to do would be to play with the wilder trio behind shem and brutus for that level
Nemora Arden Tasi?
Also you should level Your carry to the maximum in order to be as efficient as possible @upper star
@river gazelle you'll want to place your arden out of estrilda's range
But you need Lyca because they have one So the best option for your backline would be tasi - Lyca - Nemora
and Brutus - Shem front
Thanks again my guy it worked
One more question, should I replace Thane with a second Gwenyth? I feel like Thane dies so quickly
what do you mean by replacing him @proud lodge ?
Nevermind....I'm an idiot. I forgot I combined my second gwenyth. Derp. But I dont like Thane, so squishy to me.
help plz
Do in #classic-questions but I would probably do the Belinda since u need one more
Sorry for sorta spamming but could someone help me with 20-60 please
been using Saveas as my carry with:
Saveas
Lucius
Rowan
Hogan
Mehira
Now i have L+ Belinda is it worth making her my carry over Saveas? Or changing anything in general?
@clever cedar have you tried brutus(1) lyca (2) shemira(3) tasi(4) and nemora (5)? this is so the enemy lyca gets banished, and their arden gets charmed to root themselves while forcing brutus and shemira to kill target estrilda and onwards for the victory
@graceful mountain I think you are safe for keeping your saveas as a carry but you could also incorporate belinda side by side to double kill potential as long as you have lucius and possibly rowan to keep your team up.
@willow eagle dropping hogan and frontlines saveas? or drop mehira?
@graceful mountain mehira will have more survivability than hogan (should anyways) and will gear you up as hogan will eventually fall off here very soon
@willow eagle tasi dies before she can banish, and nemora dies before she can charm.
Who should I get?
@proud lodge i'd say shem, but it depends on the rest of ur heroes
@proud lodge I would prioritize shemira first then nemora post chapter 25.
This is my units
yep get shem
Ok, thanks everyone.
np
@clever cedar try Brutus (1) tasi(2) shemira(3) lyca (4) nemora (5) if this still doesnt work lets try to do something offsite like brutus(1) lucius(2) belinda(3) shemira(4) nemora(5)
Is my@lineup good
@pale kettle I would put skreg infront of estrilda as it is a direct counter to estrilda and then put your eironn in the (1) spot. from here having arden being in (3) would be more beneficial as well. This would be a better team, i know you were asking a generalized question but instead of giving you a "no" or "yes" I put some more information behind it
Any advice?
@robust forum Mercing a good khasos with high signature item level should do the trick, just need him to crit with his axe throws
Any recommendation? I am rather new but I am currently using Nemora/Saveas/Arden backline and Hogan/Golus frontline
@hollow jewel depends on the enemies.
Advice?
@hollow jewel first thing, you should only be leveling 5 of your characters, the rest that you may use you put in the resonating crystal, it saves you a ton of exp and lets you level your main 5 even higher. And always keep your top 5 rarity characters at the highest level possible
Okay, thank you! @copper mica
@pale kettle Put Skreg on 2, put Saveas behind Skregm put Thane in slot 1, put Belinda behind Thane
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14-11 :(
Swap athalia for Arden. Your Arden should be able to root oppo Arden first @dusty patrol. If that is not enough try
Tasi/lyca
Lyca/tasi
Nemora
Shemira
Arden.
Root Arden and charm mirael
Or try this with call on shemira maybe and eye on Arden
Help
16-12 killing me please send help 
@clear saddle thanksss
@hard lark if tuesday's formations are not working also try brutus(1) tasi(2) nemora(3) shemira(4) fereal(5) call on tasi, eye on shemira, blade on fereal or grace. This may require some RNG and a couple of attempts in order to achieve a couple of things: nemora charm on seirus to uprise on enemy team and fereal to dodge a lot after tasi teleports away from warek. Let me know if this is working out or achieving better results
@smoky delta try swapping brutus and shemira's positions and instead of using belinda try using lyca for the haste and or arden for the extra cc
@willow eagle okay thank you so much!!
Arden literally gets one shot before he can root :(
Does anyone know the lineup i should use on 135 brutal citadel? I dont have too many mauler heroes
@smoky delta try shemira(1) brutus(2) tasi(3) lyca(4) nemora(5) - nemora should be charming isabella for the best chance on increasing win %
Its mauler only fight @kita
Any ideas on how to beat this, the other people on my friends list who beat this won with a single 211 A Brutus, maybe I'm missing something
@violet temple try this : numisu(1) brutus(2) antandra(3) khasos(4) safiya(5) - may need to do a couple of attempts but let me know if this is giving you better results
Thanks kita i appreciate it
No problem ๐
Did they change how hardauler tower 80 is? Nothing I try works?
@serene basin Can you show me your lineup against that floor?
The other people on my friends list beat it just using Brutus and a bunch of lvl 1 units for the 5 faction buff
I've only got the one good set of light armor on the spear lady
@serene basin Yeah i have seen people beating it with that comp, it works because brutus can just spin to win. you can do a couple of things here: if you are atleast 5 levels within your friends that beat this stage with that strategy then keep spamming it - you will win eventually however, if you are higher and want to do something different I would suggest this: khasos(1) brutus(2) skreg(3) warek(4) antandra(5)
What should i change
Okay let me try that
@pale kettle I would try this against that stage: skreg(1) saveas(2) arden(3) eironn(4) fereal(5) let me know if your eironn is being instantly killed or not.
Yeah Brutus just kept getting pulled around
@willow eagle my Brutus is level 200 in Mythic Plus, but the people on my friends list had a level 210 and 211 Brutus that was either ascended or to starred
Hes not being instantly killed but their arden just keeps killing my whole team
@serene basin I think you can pass it, it may require some tedious amounts of retries but theres always that 1% (trust me, been there done that on multiple stages)
Hi kita
@pale kettle try situating your eironn in position (3) then to kill their arden first
@subtle apex Hello!
Hahaha yeah, we go back and forth a lot
- try to keep the conversation in this channel limited to question and feedback for lineups and help with lineups though @subtle apex
Haha yeah btw any help for 20-8 ?
@subtle apex I would try lyca(1) brutus(2) tasi(3) shemira(4) arden(5) - arden roots on niru/arden niru/lyca and tasi banish on shemira while banking on lyca dodge on ogi's toss. Should be able to win with that in a couple of tries if you are lucky
Enemy Arden always root my team first
You can always try to put arden in (4) instead and see if that changes something
Even try with dura call on Arden didn't working
@subtle apex You could also try reset lyca/brutus and level your lucius instead. When Lucius is the same level as your supposedly overlevelled carry, he can tank quite well.
Upgrade Lucius to 200 died fast then Brutus his immune spell make him more tank than Lucius
I guess I need to upgrade my heroes and resonating crystal
Heeelp
Any suggestions on who to run for my team?
Currently use luc and hogan up front with bel, nemora and Rosa in the back
@carmine zealot take out ur E Belinda from the crystal and put Fawkes in.. Also reset Luc and nemora and level up Arden and ankhira to break 100lv lvl cap
Should be
Swap shemira and lyca and make sure that Arden can root Arden and kaz @idle oriole
Or maybe lyca with brutus. The longer Arden lives the better your chances is
Ok cool thx I'll try it out
Should I get Thoran and Numisu or ascended, or Grezhul and Skregg? I have 6 of each of those heros and plenty of fodder, and can get the last two from the lab / Challenger store. I think I like Skregg more than Numisu, but Thoran more than Grezhul, and both of those are from the lab store so I can't do both ๐ต
@still oar thx it worked 1st try ๐
I'd vote for Grezhul @neon urchin . Thoran is great but offers lesser utility as compared to Grezhul.
If patient you can buy both thoran and skreg since you know you probably have lack of fodder to ascend both to m+
If that's not the case the wait still worth
@neon urchin
Thanks for the input! I thought that Thoran had more utility in campaign since he can survive burst damage (by reviving). Grezhul is slower to start since he needs minions to be tanky and SI +20.
Hmm, maybe I'll just be patient... See what I get in pulls and decide in a little.
I do actually have the fodder to go straight to M+, I've been saving for a while now
@still oar do you also think Skregg and Thoran are the better heros to ascend?
See it this way thoran is like brutus they both better as tank if the level gap is high, such as 30 or above. And they deal damage almost in the same way. While grezhul offers supports and tank well when the level gap is not abysmal kinda like Lucius. Both can deal massive damage in the different ways although grezhul would need a higher sig.
Overall as tank I think thoran is better if you push campaign hard.
As for skreg and numisu, think overall skreg is better now have skreg at m+ and numisu m, both signed pre floor 100 skreg is better. Dk bout aboue 100+ and campaign @neon urchin
Thanks for the in depth answer! Seems like for me, Thoran is probably the way to go, since I won't be able to invest heavily in either Grezhul or Thorans SI. Then maybe I'll wait a little to decide what I do with my Mauler fodder
Any one have a idea for graveborn tower 100??
@gray parrot I rate u drop vedan for Belinda and then swap her with where Lucius is also make sure thoran faces estrilda for factional advantage maybe
Yes @gray parrot. Try what Average suggested and if you have someone that can target single hero, such as nemora with charm or nara with hook, use it to target ankhira
thanks guys
Just sharing for people in the future who get stuck on 22-42 (A big thank you to Tuesday for sharing his line-up). I was stuck on it for a week with over 200 tries and this line-up allowed me to clear it in about 15 tries.
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Blade on Shem, Call on Tasi, Grace on Lyca, Drape on Brutus, Eye on Arden
This level is really dependent on Lyca distracting the Skreg from Shemira so she can get 2 or 3 Ultimates off. @uneven robin.
You can even use r+ or elite Arden
Or
Other comp
Shemira
LycA
Mehira
Brutus
Ezzih @uneven robin
Everyone is playing ferael ๐ญ
@still oar thx, that stage has kept me to from progressing for a while now. Thx to @clear saddle as well
@still oar
@distant grail I was stuck there for quite a while too. Has worked for many others as well. Best of luck (if you haven't passed it already)
@still oar is it normal that tasi gets ult off way before shem
I didn't use the wilder comp @uneven robin. It was @clear saddle
@uneven robin Does your lyca have good equipment?
4M+ with faction bonus
Should be fine then. I'll post a video of how I won in a second
โค thanks
do you need to manually ult? my tasi keeps ulting before shem does @clear saddle
Hello, am new. Should I switch out Seirus for Brutus on this comp? Will lose 4 wilder but will have 3 wilder and 2 other faction bonus.
Or what would be my best comp
I can also get tasi up to legendary by sacrificing my arden, but i like the dude so far
@clear saddle I PASSED IT
Grats!
THANK YOU I LOVE YOU
No no. Keep Arden about @sweet pond
Yes you can but not necessarily should. The difference is only +15% hp and 20% for faction bonus if I recall it correctly. Brutus will tank better when your frontlines are one shotted. If you can resonate him, do. Maybe take Hendrik or Rigby out
Any ideas for graveborn tower 100?
Oh, hendrik or rigby would be better for the team you mean? am running tasi/nemora/seveas/arden/seirus atm @still oar. Will keep in mind not to level brutus then and put him in the crystal instead
@uneven robin Which one was that?
No take one of them from resonating crystal on put brutus in @sweet pond
Oh right! Sure, thanks!
@clear saddle
thanks ๐
Try swap Baden and shemira's position and put call on her or
Thoran
Shemira
Nara
Baden/grez
Ferael
Think you need to buy her time to ult if you put her with thoran his revival might give her the gap to breath and ult. After that it's rng @charred wind
Stuck on 13-40
Closest I got was killing angelo and belinda and then brutus just killing the rest of my team
build shem, and it will solve all your problems
yeah i need 3 more copies of her for mythic
@violet coral Khasos can carry just fine as well. Replace everyone (except khasos) with lyca tasi nemora and safiya maybe. You just want to work on buffing your khasos as much as possible
Iโm about to uninstall this game can someone help with 23-24 Iโve been stuck here a month Iโve tried 200+ times with many different setups Iโve tried several different mercs and I canโt even get close I have no idea how people are doing this with a 200 crystal
I did it with 240 lucius 221 thoran 240 shemira 220 lorsan 240 lyca
If lorsan links warek and tasi then you are gucci @topaz eagle
@still oar the most time shem dies to fast...
@clear saddle how about 22-46
@still oar you said i still need better artefaicts with the heroes i got for hard mode. how could i improbe my hero pool for lab hard mode ? what is needed
I need help for 15-36
Hello, should I sacrifice ulmus E+ and Seirus E+ to make Tasi L?
Neither, just be patient untill you dont to have to sacrifice either
Sure
would love help for this level ๐ http://puu.sh/ECSfG/82c3c4e9ab.jpg
Need some help
Light tower 95 help
http://puu.sh/ECT5N/24bf9b3ec8.jpg would love help
Any advice? Or just level some more?
Any suggestions on comp for this stage?
@carmine kiln what about the wilderer backline
Nemora
Tasi
Arden?
Maybe put tasi top and swap around the gear so that she tanks silvina and arden can root freely. Or swap and use arden as bait.
Brutal Citadel, is this doable with these heroes?
@fresh vortex i like to burst down lucius. In order to do this, i center the dmg around him. Athalias knockbacks prevent lucius from using his shield for a while. I would try
Shemira
--athalia
Lyca
--brutus
Nemora/tasi
@rigid summit you might need higher ascension/lvl. Khasos is a beast with his SI unlocked
Canโt pass this level... what should I do?
@tall forge put your Frontline in an order, so that they get faction bonus against the enemy frontline. So put lyca bottom. I would swap out satrana for ogi to see, if he is more usefull.
Saves
--brutus
Arden
--ogi
Lyca
@silk ingot i would try to burst down ogi and then let saveas kill Isabella.
In order to do this, use something like
Saveas
--brutus
Khasos
--lucius (with duras call)
Athalia
Where does silvana jump?
with that setup to Khasos @restive mauve
I dont what should i do. Keep lvlng up belinda or lvl up shemira to 21. But my frontline is not the best one.
Which one is better, nemora or tasi?
Anyone have a lineup to beat 23-10?
@rigid summit i use warek, khasos, saveas, brutus and safiya. My satrana doesn't do anything
so far did not work yet but will keep trying @restive mauve
@silk ingot yes, where does she jump?
khasos
@silk ingot swap him with saveas then maybe.
As an alternative, remove athalia and use arden. But he will be the focus then
What should my team be for wrizz?
20-54. can i manage this? i hate ulmus. fffffff
@tall forge unsure, saveas, belinda, grez, shemira, brutus? You need someone with heal or shield like nemora/lucius
Iโve been getting unlucky with summons so I havenโt pulled either :/ @restive mauve . Ty tho ๐
if i do it like that i feel like its a problem for saveas because OGI throws some1 at him and slows attack speed @restive mauve I could resonate Lyca and use Lyca arden nemora with lucious and saveas front
@tall forge you should buy one nemora from lab store :) afterwards invest your coins into shemiras
what do you think about that three arden support Brutus saveas tank setup @restive mauve
@silk ingot what do you mean? 4th a general support and 5th a tank hero?
Call on Thoran. Ult should kill majority of enemies. Then just about if Shem and/or Lyca survive through banish/rng.
You can try the wilderer backline but try to keep a 3 kind faction bonus.
Nemora
--brutus
Mehira
--saves
Arden
Can work too, depending on mehira.
Need some lineup ideas please
@indigo jolt I donโt have a thoran I have to merc and none of them have call
What can i change to make my lineup better
Trying to break 100m on Soren. Which sig is worth chasing first, Rosa or Rowan?
@restive mauve sry i wrote it stupid i meant 3 wilder support (nemora arden lyca) backline and front line Brutus Saveas
Sure, try it @silk ingot :) you can tryout mehira (with call) too. If she survives long enough
Iโve only been playing for two days, how does my lineup look? Not that many champs to pick from right now but Iโve heard my line up is good for now
Help me ๐ญ
Suggestions appreciated: my only Ascended is Tasi, and I have an L+ fodder to burn. My main objective is faction tower.
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Ladder Eironn to M? I have enough copies for A.
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Ladder Gorvo to M? I have enough for 1-star (plus fodder).
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Ladder Nemora to M+? I can make her 1-star right away (but maybe need tank or dps more?)
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Other? Feel free to suggest!
#classic-questions @umbral badger
@dark current is this not related to my team comp for Wilder tower...?
I'll repost there, then
@warped peak try swaping hogan with lucius and nemora with ira so nemora can charm brutus
saveas still kills lucius and when when brutus breaks from the charm he basically 3 hits nemora
I think I just need to level him up more?
Why nobody answer me ๐ญ
Tips help
Please help
I need help on that hell level
use nemora to charm ferael
and dont put lyca infront of vedan cause he'll flurry ur whole backline
Ferael already get banished by tasi
put in brutus so silvina jumps ur tasi so she doesnt banish ferael instantly
something like
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
lyca
21-37
I don't know why but silvina jumps on my nemora, she's 339k and tasi 332k
She jumps the lowest defense intel hero
OH
Anyone have a different lineup to beat 23-10 than this one? I still seem very stuck!
any suggestion on how to pass 11-31?
@warm wigeon did you try the wilderer backline?
Nemora
--thoran
Tasi
--shemira
Arden
Else i would use the merc Brutus instead of thoran. Maybe lucius works too if you have decent gear. Aim for a 3 faction bonus