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@jaunty compass don't use 4 skills hero's as food. You could on the other hand ascend Belinda with the 2 others. If you are not using them of course
Im using hogan, more than belinda. But saw some guys saying that she is good, thats why im still holding
But not mirael
@oak lance can shem survive on the Frontline? If so maybe try:
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi
If not you could still try
Nem
Brut
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
Where if you have high tier boots your nem should be able to charm enemy arden so he roots his own team
@jaunty compass She's quite good. I'd ascend her with the other 2. You can switch Hogan with Shemira if she can survive. She's a good tank.
Hmm, use belinda in place of shemeria, and shemira of hogan? I'll give a try
@prisma kindle hmm, nice, maybe with betters equips i can do this trade
In this lvl, just khasos survive, low life. Maybe if arden was an elite, this should be better
Still stuck on 23-24. Been here for weeks. ANY suggestions highly welcome. Iโm about a week from having enough dust for 240 crystal.
Any ideas? Ulmus heal + kaz dmg is annoying af. Shemira canโt tank kaz
Can your Arden beat Arden @visual quiver?
Think I used
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Arden control Arden and kaz and nemora charm saveas so he can help brutus killing ulmus
that doesn't work sadly. shem can't tank kaz at all and one root isn't enough for shem to survive even if she gets ult
and ulmus doesn't die before brutus either
nvm. beat the stage. thanks @still oar
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General team pls
Try
Belinda/Shem
Luc
Arden/tasi
Ulmus
Tasi/arden
And when you get yourself a lyca, the bunny lady on dear with arrow, resonate her. She will help your CC crew
@digital cloud
Floor 288 been stuck 3 weeks I have no idea
Hey, I cant seem to get paรt 20-12.. Im Stuck there for a few now
any Tips?
i have a usual comb of lightbearer but uhm against graveb not so good
@topaz eagle
I used
Ferael
Thoran
Mehira
Shem
Atha
Try
Lyca
Brutus (tank)
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan or Arden if you have him
It is the standard start the fight with charm ferael so he CC's his mates @pale kettle
I canโt get close with that lineup lol
The SS so old I can't play the video lol. Try the mine.
Mehira has call and Shem blade
Hi guys i need some help in hardstuck tower 120 and im at 9-29
Pic of the tile/floor? Makes it a bit easier
Mehira coming in useful managed to beat it
Any tips for 19-38?
@topaz eagle using line ups with rowan and ros usually doesnt work, in rare special set ups its very effective like with belinda if you can pull their ults off but with smth like shem dont even bother
i see many ppl use those lol
oh well in my experience they tend to fall apart once you are pushing for progress
@high horizon one of the things my friend always did on these lvl is try to charm arden to root his own team you can do that with rng (and nemora + luca combo usually)
Who would you remove
i mean idk how match unfolds but i typically never pass lvls with ros (yet) (maybe if her sig is 20/30) then she might prove herself more useful in campaign
now flawkes vs rowan is kinda debatable
My sig is +10 on her
since you need to see who he confines and how that changes the battle
brutus is important to buy time against Ogi + Ira and shemira is you key dmg dealer
LB team, my other tank is lucius, should i use an E hendrik over E+ hogan? (level 120 both)
so we cant remove those as far as i see unless you can make a good queue with lucious ult + his shield ability sometimes that works too
Honestly luc dies too fast
@worldly shale everything isnt that simple as white and black lol, depends primarily on the stage. I personally never had experience with Hendrik so i cant say. but lucious is a good hero on many chapters
its not between lucius or hendrik. lucius is clearly awesome at pretty much all the content. it was between hogan and hendrik
And this in cannot fi anul further
i think on lvl 120 you can still use luc and hogan effectively
Everyone saying Lucius is better
you can also invest into luc by eating hogan if you see that they perform similarly in your team or leave them both as frontline if you want to get some faction bonus
But my Brutus still lasts longer than my Lucius
@gray parrot you are using some strong heroes, they will come handy after sig items
i was playing for a while before i did any actual research into the game, so i'm heavily invested in a LB only team, i don't even have a copy of shem yet, so thats why i was specifically asking between hogan and hendrik. thanks for the feedback
no brutus, or any of the "meta" heroes really, other than my lucius
@high horizon as i said depends on the stage, that stage def brutus if i had a choice, since getting luc ult there and keep him alive is a pain in the butt not gonna lie i have passed those by using him but i had to include quite a lot of cc and rng
@rustic blade thanks bud ID like to get there first if You have any suggestion in pretty behind in power level
@worldly shale dont be discouraged. some heroes become meta only in late chapters
oh i'm not even remotely discouraged rofl
i dont really care about the meta, i'll work on it in time, which is why in my question i specified for a LB team, that's all
@gray parrot hire mercs that you need that will always do the job in tricky levels
I have 160k vs 260k i dont think ill kill the next level even If i use merchs here
I had the same kinda idea when i started the game to focus on LB but then realized I dont have enough fodders to make that viable and that was pushing my back quite a bit on progress. Be careful
i mean, i guess quite a few people ask questions about line up cause they get stuck or frustrated or something.... but discouraged? about a video game, that sounds silly to me.
and i also dont give a shit about progress... its an idle game basically, and like 5th down on my list of games i prioritize. its not i can "catch up" without spending a ton of money, its a mobile game thats time gated after all
i'll try and keep my team optimized as i go of course, but i dont let everyone elses idea of how fast i should progress or what team i need to use to get in the way of my enjoyment
@gray parrot oh u r wrong, wat nice about mercs is not as much that they can be more powerful but the fact that you can hire the right hero for your situation
@worldly shale thats why we have a server with some memeber solutions to ch 22-26, its going great i sometimes use the cheat sheet just to see what the enemy line up is vulnerable to and then try to recreate the scenario with what i got ๐
by that i dont mean use the same heroes but sometimes using a hero like Eironn can be quite impactful on how the round unfolds from the very start
Please can anyone post a 23-24 completion Iโve gained 2 240s since reaching this, +20d a new sig, had three weeks of different Mercs, tried meta lineup and several different other setups and the closest Iโve gotten is Lyca dies
sorry took some time to go on my phone check what 23-25 was search if i have any cc of 23-24 or 23-25 , name it and post it here
it was a while back
btw i believe this photo credit goes to: @Wolkenwanderer
And thatโs mine
Hope that helps
@topaz eagle for that specific stage - your biggest hurdle is the marek and the athalia - try to focus on around that while exposing the weakness of that stage. a good example that will work against that with a couple of tries potentially is - tasi thoran nara fereal athalia - you are forcing athalia to bottleneck into thoran and tasi will dodge seirus to get faster banish/sleep - also nara pulls and prevents their tasi on getting a fast banish so this gives you time.
I think that top little girl making my hero disappear. How can I counter this?
Any tips for beating this level?
16-24
19-20 ferael keeps draining energy and everyone gets melted :(
Try
Lyca nemora Arden as backline. Charm him so he would cc his own mates. If you failed to charm him restart the battle @bitter burrow
Thx again Andi :)
If your heroes have full energy try
Nemora
Luc
Belinda
Shemira
Tasi
Try charm saveas or just auto if you have the relics
Try level your shemira or belinda up. Since they're your potential carry either should be the highest level @still quest
Your main problem probably relics and your carry is lower than your tank
Stuck at 9-35, using anything other than (Lucius, Mehira, Shemira, Athalia and Nara) dies almost instantly cause theyโre too squishy. Anyone has a better lineup I can try? Or am I stuck till I pull more Shemiras to reach L+?
anyone has screenshot for 22-48?
@still oar did you see mine?
@pale kettle Post a pic of the enemy lineup
I've been stuck on this stage for almost two weeks. I'm hoping to clear 9-40 so I can get the second estrilda and get her to legendary to replace Hogan.
Any help would be super appreciated.
Any ideas on this tower lvl?
How to get past this stage 11-40
Try reversing Tasi And Saveas and use Arden instead of Nemora @hollow thistle
Ok ill give that a shot, only problem is i cant get ardens 3 entangle skill yet
Maybe you'll need to spam the fight a little bit so that each hero can do their job.
Still early and new but who should I focus on leveling? I assume my 3 graveborns are a good start but what else? Thanks buds.
@worn trout Hello!
Out of all of your heroes, you're to focus on Vedan and Silvina the most, I'd also say you should focus on one of the other Elites you've got in your list, since they will keep your level cap going, preferably Hogan since it's easy to get clones of him.
Overall, the logic of the game goes as so : You firstly prioritize heroes who have high DPS / Reliability in carrying the rest of your team (early on)
After then, the tanks in your lineup, ensuring greater durability of Frontlines
And lastly, supports, charming / Healing / shielding allies who could protect your DPS and Tanks from dying (You could also however level up heroes who are both frontline and support, like Lucius, Hendrik, etcetera.)
Hope this helps! ๐
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OH! and next time, please use the channel that's made for these kind of questions, named #classic-questions ๐
Thanks
@quiet falcon first off all i would like to advise you to push shem to 240 first, either by resetting lucius or doing her next, but resetting luci will help you push some stages right now.
For setup i would say use something like:
lyca/shem
shem/lyca
tasi
brut/luci
arden
make sure you arden roots faster than enemy by giving him decent boots, for the lyca vs shem setup see if shem can survive frontline if yes, use her in front, if not use lyca in front of her to tank a couple hits
it worked already?
Any tipps ?
use your nemora and hope for chain charm
20-19 sometimes my shem can get ult off usually not tho
@pale kettle you can try:
arden
shem
tasi
brut
lyca
if shem cant survive long enough frontline with that comp, try:
shem
lyca
arden
brut
tasi
2nd one is more likely to work. Ira is very strong against shem carry users, would be best to try and avoid that matchup.
@charred wind your brutus is too weak, you need to kill atleast 1 umlus before they both roots.
Hey guys, I come to you to share a guide on team building that I wrote with a fellow guild member. It explains my way of thinking in order to build a team, and gives some examples of team building to give context. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10xGg11YZO031xuxDdgD1G17JIKunHXRQKjcgEQdqFiw/edit
@charred wind I beat it using Shem Brutus Fawkes Rosa Rowan. I don't see a rowan there, is there one hiding anywhere?
Pinned 
@clear saddle i dont have rowan
Could try with Estrilda in the back as well, or Lyca
You just need to go crazy with energy gain to try and kill them as quick as possible
What am I doing wrong here?
@broken egret my shem dies faster in the bottom one in the top one I can sometimes get shem and tasi ult off but my shem dies to ira bleed during it
Help pls 
16-12
@naive crown swap out nem for tasi and use call on tasi
Aight
Any tips to beating this stage?
@worn stream you have a shemira above your hogan there? Use her in place of one of your lesser DPS and put her against Niru, you want to kill him asap
Hello! I'd like to get some suggestions about passing stage 20-52. Can I beat it with heroes I've got?
@hazy jasper you might be able to i think, try:
arden
shem
tasi
brut
lyca
if shem cant survive frontline try:
lyca
shem
arden
brut
tasi
Charming the saveas with arden and lyca backline might work. might need lyca frontline against the kaz though
Thanks guys. I've just tried these three configurations, hasn't worked but have only tried once with each. Will try some more for rng, though my arden is only elite+.
What would your lineup be with this?
@hazy jasper E+ arden should be fine ๐
@summer hatch Who is your main damage? belinda or shem? its recommended to only have 1
Theyโre both about even on AR.
@clear saddle @broken egret I've managed it with
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Thanks for your input, I'd been stuck for over over a week!
@summer hatch Would recommend resetting belinda and levelling shemira to 240, she gets super strong then.
Oh wait you need 200 crystal first for that
sorry
Yeah Iโm stuck atm
Hello everybody I need help for this level and I can use the crystal
@spare crypt
Athalia
-Lucius
Tasi
-shem
Nemora
@idle oriole thank you very much bro I win you are the best ๐
Welp ive gotten stuck now until i make my grezhul and fareal ascended unless someone can see a strong team that i am missing. Because i could have looked over something
@ancient raptor Hey! Try this one out :
Tasi
Shemira
Nemora (charm Seirus)
Brutus
Lyca
If Shemira will drain Tasi, she will force her to teleport, then keep resetting until Shemira's silence is directed at Tasi, and not Niru, and you should be more than clear to pass through the stage !
^
Remember, Call on Shemira, Grace on Lyca, Blade on Brutus, Drape on Nemora, Eye on Tasi
Thank you @still oar
@wise merlin thanks for the advice ive given it a try and it seems my lyca and tasi are just too weak to fight but my whole team tends to get annihilated.
Silva jumps my tasi almost one hits her she teleports away and gets killed then a few moments later serius ults and it just wipes everyone nearly brutus is the last boy standing which sadly doesnt last long lol
But thanks muchly appreciate the help
@ancient raptor Try to pull up a bait for Silvina to take whilst keeping the Faction Bonus. have you got an Arden that can be bait for Silvina while Tasi will be kept alive and maybe even helping?
If Nemora can't do much, then you could swap Nemora for Arden.
Okay cool ill try arden out havent used him in ages.
Should i give all nems gear to tasi? Rather then arden if his goal is to be bait?
Hey guys I wouldove help with 8 20!
i dont even know what happened but i took out lyca for fawkes just randomly thought why not im not passing it he died instantly didnt get to trap anyone and have no faction bonus now but i won please explain lol
@wise merlin
@ancient raptor Re-watch the replay and see your alies' casts, see if Seirus died early, or Niru died first, etc.
I know I'm still early game but what line up would suit me better currently I'm at chapter 6 level 24, thanks for the help in advance
@pale kettle You only need to level 5 main heroes, the rest can be put in the resonating crystal ๐
anybody got 16-24 saved?
@silk ingot try nemoria and arden in the backrow over saveas and the witchy girl forgot her name fpr a nice faction bonus
i can send it if thatโd help
@pale kettle In terms of your actual setup, you could run something like Shemira Lucius Belinda Hogan Estrilda maybe
Yeah I figured I used the resonating before but the spots were taken ๐ I'm a pleb
16-24
@shell hamlet i did lyca, shemira, tasi, brutus, arden
put arden where nemora is and replace nemora for lyca
Placement?
Front
1 lucius
2 hogan
3 estrilda
Back
4 shemira
5 Belinda
@clear saddle
@pale kettle put lucius and estrilda infront line belinda shem and maybe thoran for the 15%faction bonus for now
@scenic frost iโll try ty
@pale kettle Sounds alright for now. Estrilda is a support, despite her tank role but she may not be so good at your level. Could use arden instead of her
Faction Bonus isn't crucial either, but a little bit would be nice if you can get it.
Like this?
Can anyone help with 18-32? Silv is jumping tasi atm
@wise merlin by the time i went back it was gone lol app had to reload for some reason. Anyway to watch a replay afterwards still?
@scenic frost Does your tasi die very fast/cant get her ult off?
most of the time. assuming she doesnt get crit and jumps to either arden or shem she usually gets it off @clear saddle
@scenic frost Having your shemira going up against the grezhul isn't ideal, can your shemira tank the silvina once tasi jumps by swapping shem and brutus around?
Maybe if you do something like
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi?
@ancient raptor No! But I'm happy to hear you passed it, congratulations :P
@clear saddle got it with that tyvm
@silk ingot try the athilia over the saveas for the 10% bonus if it doesnt and put her in the top back row. If not have you got much good gear for saveas he use to be so strong in the early game till like 160+
@wise merlin damn thanks heaps for the assistance glad to be past it for a couple stages haha
Anytime. ๐
18-36 looks scarier than 18-32 oh boy here we go again
@wise merlin I jinxed myself literally got stuck two stages later
@ancient raptor You can ask another time if you'd like, it's why I'm here. ๐
18-40 tips?
That setup looks right, or you can swap shem with arden if he dies too quick
@wise merlin welp this team is now being very unpleasant haha.
@ancient raptor Charm the enemy Ferael using Nemora, put her in the middle, give it a few re-tries.
If Ferael gets banished / put in Fawkes' coffin, try Lyca instead of Fawkes.
Thats litterally what i just did haha cause he always coffined him and nobody else
On chapter 8, new to the game just would like some advice about a line up.
Been stuck at 18-36 for agess
If this level isnโt a pay wall idk what is.
Team just gets wrecked by CC and AOE. Iโve tried everything I feel.
How do I beat this powerhouse lol it seems impossible
21-9
@silk ingot
Arden
-Lucius
Athalia
-Brutus
Saveas
Any help?
@honest storm do you have a nara by chance to pull isabella? - that should work against that comp tremendously with placement along with arden
@willow eagle
@silk ingot why do u have a L shemira that ur not using
@honest storm when you use this - Shemira Brutus Lyca Nemora Tasi - (positions 1-5 from left to right) who does silvinia jump?
She should be jumping your tasi.. but you never know. Also another thing to take note - what has been your most successful try so far at that stage?
@jaunty flume try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi
Or if shem cant frontline
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brut
Tasi
If that doesn't work try this one maybe
Arden
Brut
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
Need help with faction tower level 95 Wilders. Any thoughts?
@broken egret thanks it worked
21-9
All my top guys are above +10 for Signature Items now. Who is best to focus on? From Safiya down to Grezhul have only had their base item unlocked and not sure who to prioritise.
ferael. he'll probably be your carry after shem gets "useless" late ch23 or so
@burnt knot You should focus on Ferael and Eironn
Unfortunately no @shell hamlet
@vernal bough lol nice name
U can use Wilder trio backline and charm sav with nemora and Brutus shem front line
@pale kettle its tough to pass it with 220 heroes and 1 240 but i believe its possible. since rewards dont change and you can claim them anytime i would suggest to wait a bit and try to 1st of all focus on campaign progress
Hey guys I am kinda lost here everything die ssooo fast
Anybody got a strat
Who to invest in first???
Do not use ascended tier heroes to ascend another one. @spark tusk
Getting brutalized here, I can handle the fodder fights, but once itโs an elite match I get massacred. What would you all recommend?
@sweet pasture I would swap in Lucius for survivability for Arden, and use
frontline: Lucius Shemira
Backline: Brutus, Lyca, Nemora
Thinking of swapping back belinda to 240 over shemira
@pale kettle that team gets blown up instantly
What do I do? I've got Lucius and Thoran in the front and Belinda, Ira and Nemora in the back now
Still too early and your lb still lacks of Lucius imo @whole terrace.
Rowan, Belinda and luc are kinda the core lb
Guys, whats the best wilder team i can make for tower?
Resonate eironn. Tasi, eironn, lyca, nemora will be your core you add Arden, ulmus depends on the floor. Usually he is in 4 but he can be Frontline sometimes especially if you can properly give him gears and ascencion. @onyx basin
Lineup for 23-24?
Would a lvl 120 Ira be better than a lvl 100 Athalia? Athalia is way better according to tier lists, but would 20 more levels on Ira make up for it?
Why wouldn't you reset ira and make a 120 athalia?
athalia isn't ascended
What's the best team comp I could make with my current line up. I'm at ch 8
16-16
Any suggestions on how to beat 15-40, tried a bunch of different heroes and placement
๐
Lineup for Kings tower 262?
Any suggestions?
@visual quiver Shemira call I think
@dreamy mirage You pass 15-40? If yet to, nemora middle back is the way to charm ferael actually. Ignore if you pass.. G luck.
Any suggestions
@gaunt hearth You shouldn't need to do anything to pass that stage. You overlevel them by 15 levels. Stop leveling more than 5 hero's though, it's slowing your progress immensely
Kk
I mean ik that I'm over there level I was just asking if I needed to change it @worthy bane
@gaunt hearth Your number 1 priority is should be resetting down to 5 heros. More than 5 leveled is super bad for your progress. Your overall team is fine, it's setup nicely
Ok ty
Hello
Can someone tell me what to focus on and how to progress further
These arey hero's
@rough spear Main rule of thumb, only focus on 5 heros early on. Don't use xp on more than 5. So far your team setup looks good. Once you start ascending more look at the ascension guide pinned to the channel
I will look at that.
How do I get more hero experience ,I'm stuck on a campaign level and can't get passed it
@rough spear Wait. Grind out as much as you can and afk.
How do I grind
Push as far as you can
@rough spear I'm talking everywhere
@worthy bane haha
@opal ledge You are set up. I'd run - Brutus, Lucius, Lyca/Arden, Tasi, and Nemora. But you have options for pretty much anything
@@worthy bane I can see you're experience and active though
Should I reset Hogan?
I would
Put it into brutus instead? Save Hogan to feed to lucius when I need to make him L
Yep
Thanks!
@worthy bane sorry for the shameless ping but any help you could offer would be amazing.
@pale kettle No worries lol. Is this general lineup help you're asking for?
Oh for dismal descent mostly but general opinion would be cool too
Lemme check which one dismal is first lol
@fierce kayak thanks a lot! just beat it with call on shemira and your formation
Oh that chaotic mess, I'd run Shem, Brutus, Lucius, Grez, Nara, or run Tasi over one if the GB tanks. Basically tank + Shem your way through as much as you can
@worthy bane alright awesome thanks yeah itโs hellish to say the least. I will give that a shot
at chapter 12, I already have an elite grezhul which should I pick?
@pale kettle It's overall gonna be tough. That peak took me a bit. The guides on it help a bunch
@rocky hawk Do you have any of the others? Or just Grez
@visual quiver sure. Gratz. Shemira uses call more often from here onwards especially if the stage is a tough one.
I'd just go for Grez, consistently pick him up as he's decent at all stages.
@rocky hawk save till max 500k coins then decide with your larger pool of heroes. Getting one or two heroes here won't be game changing.
should I replace my antandra by him at some point? Lucius is kind of a must for me
Ehhh antandra is s tier so no real need to replace
I've seen a lot of people using Fawkes as well so wasn't sure if he was that good that I should get him atm
Antadra is not S tier
Well she's really good for me atm with her crazy recovery
@rocky hawk You should read pin for tips in #classic-questions top right.
@fierce kayak aight will do
I apologize for that misinformation. And this is why I should be checking the tier list more frequently.
@pale kettle np, cheers. The tier list out there is actually only good for newbies to get a general idea of heroes, but read it with a pinch of salt. It's not that accurate to based on the tier list and determine heroes usefulness for this game.
Help pls
Hello everyone! New here ๐ค๐พ. Iโve been stuck on level 21-60 for 2 weeks. Can anyone help. These are the ppl I have and the lineup
@radiant parcel shem nemo tasi lyca rosa
@whole terrace hey any advice you could give? ๐
@vivid creek level your shem as much as you can. Take levels from everyone else to get her to 181+
Wow xD what about for the specific stage? ๐
That is for specific stage. Leveling properly will help more with stages than lineups
@still oar hmm Im currently using Blade on Shemira xD
Hmm I keep trying with rng
Any ideas for 21-53?
@vivid creek Arden top back, Lyca bottom back, nemora middle back. Nemora charm ferael, reset if charm fails.
@fierce kayak yeha even if nemora charms him and arden roots him right after, my team still almost always dies in less than 30 seconds
@vivid creek will work. Keep trying.
@whole terrace Thanks a tonโค๏ธ it worked. Had to hire a merc but I was still able to push through
Can Any1 suggest a line up for the arena?
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
@pale kettle Maybe with that?
I kinda use that comp but i use lucius over brutus
So im kinda doing the right thing i guess, interesting
I prefer Brutus to Lucius, especially for the simple arena! But yes, it remains a more or less viable way to play ๐
@vivid creek Try Nemora Tasi Arden back Lyca Shem front
Any suggestions?
Anyone have any suggestions on a solid basic lineup and what heroes I should work on?
@ancient edge
IRA
Lyca
Nemora
Ulmnus
Belinda
@torpid pelican thank you
Any ideas?
@topaz tangle not sure how well it would work out with your lineup because it seems like you will usually end up with niru or shem at the end and idk if belinda can 1v1/1v2, hope for nemora to charm ferael and go from there i guess
@dark tundra Twice I was hardly able to take down 3 enemy hero
Do you think I can defeat 23-24
Only Nemora or tasi would survive till end
@ember bane How much health did the athalia have in the first picture?
Im facing with so many choices on who to ascend...any recommendation? Btw i use lucius as my main tank with brutas
But i can also upgrade fawkes or estilda to mystic right away
Better to wait until you have more copies of other heroes, fawkes isn't as ascension dependant.
If you run LB damage, you need to wait for more copies of belinda or gwyneth
@topaz tangle try Brutus , Lucius , fawkes, Belinda, tasi

Only ascend your iras, try and make 2 elite iras so that you can make her E+
the rest can wait
Is this an ideal setup for sav carry? I'm switching from Shem and belinda to sav so don't really know how to use him lol
Try
Saveas
Lyca
Arden/tasi
Luc(tank)
Nemora
Try charm saveas @lost nova
Try common strategy is to tank one side and pick from weaker flank. But sometime also work by killing the higher attack flank
Ok cool :) I ended up beating that stage and the rest of chapter 12 just now with RNG haha. But will start trying that tactic here on forward
@wise roost Would be better for you to reset gwyneth, ira and silvina to a lower level so that you can increase your belinda's level higher since she is your main damage. But you need to kill the vedan first, so move your main damage top to try and focus him.
@clear saddle
That's where I'm stucked at the moment
@honest storm who does silvina jump?
Try swapping tasi and Shem so silvina goes for Brutus instead of Arden after tasi thatโs my one suggestion lol
Shem against grezhul is not exactly favourable.
Tasi and Shem not Brutus and Shem
His shemira should be able to tank the silvina anyway. But does your tasi survive until ult?
One moment
Wait a sec I need help too xD
Grats
xD... Swapped Shem and Tasi ^.^
And for this one maybe? Grezhul is a beast
Swap out tasi for nemora, move her middle back
and then put shem front probably
need to charm the enemy ferael
16-24 @clear saddle
@shell hamlet Does vurk hit any of your backline?
i can send a recording if youโd like
I just need to know who ๐
heโs usually getting spam rooted by arden, but heโd hit lyca if he does hit
Move arden middle back, make sure you have call on tasi
do you have blade unlocked yet?
not yet, i canโt handle vipers marsh yet lol
that immediately worked.... how do you know man that shit blows my mind
Experience 
Worked @clear saddle
Thanks
i have enough duplicate E+ to make like 10 different heroes L+ i just donโt have the fodder 
This is 7-8 and next is 16-36
That second team let me beat all of 15 btw
@clear saddle
Hewwo I need halp xD
Nvm thereโs always tomorrow morning
18-40.. tried meta and Blue Comp. Can also use merc
@crimson kraken you can try using nara to hook the enemy arden
If you have like M tier 4 boots I thibk you should be able to charm arden before he roots using nem
Someone see it?
@honest storm can survive at the top there? If not try:
Arden
Brut
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
If that doesn't work try taking out arden and put nem middle back instead of tasi so she can charm enemy nem and in turn nem while charm one of her teammates
Worked @broken egret
stuck here for a bit, would apreciate some suggestion ty (nvm got it)
@final pond not sure if you gave the wilder backline, but try
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brut /luci
Tasi
Or even just
Nem
Luciua/shem
Rowan
Shem/lucius
Lyca/bel
Ok but my wilder only L+, can do?
@final pond ye wilder ascension does not matter much I think
Ok ty shifu
Hey guys. So does anyone know the best line up to use for wrizz fight? Im lvl 266. My best is 184 million damage on him
Lorsan Belinda Rowan Rosa Twins is probably one of the best right now
any ideas of a decent team to take for soren guild hunt?
Try
Estrilda
Luc
Rowan
Ros/belinda
Belinda/Rosa
Call Maybe on Rosa and belinda has eye or blade. @median oriole
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Last floor of lab, any suggestions?
@median oriole do u have any tries still able?
Next time try with silv instead of estrilda
I don't. but okay I'll try that next time thanks
If I renember well at early game tricks, silv stay behind soren after ult so she can tank the charms
ah ok, that makes sense
King Tower 289
@stray pine i feel like your damage output is gonna be rather low with only lyca doing damage, but i might be wrong.
also swap nem and lyca position for sure, so new can charm arden easier and he can root his own team
i also feel like estr cant really survive at the bottom vs brut+sav or can she?
Estril survive longer than Lucius but will try switch Nem and Lyca
Can anyone suggest what heroes I should really focus on or how to go about leveling which ones up? Right now Iโm only leveling up Shemira to try to get her to 141
@strange mortar pls leave this question in #classic-questions
I need help here, Brutus is destroying me 13-40
I can do this fight but Rosa and rowan keep dying, can some help where no dies
Hey guys would love advice :)
@silk ingot Mehira instead of khasos maybe?
@strange meteor They are probably dying because they are the lowest ascension out of all, so they die fairly quickly. Might be safer behind lucius?
Floor 275 any suggestions?
Nice lyca damage wow i can get farael and ill try thanks @clear saddle
@onyx basin That's most likely because shemira tanks the banishes, your M+ one won't cut it im afraid, but you might be able to slot a thoran merc in there somewhere maybe
@clear saddle i have thoran merc rn where do i put him?
Shem gets banished way too much tho she cant keep up by the time her ult is ready, the rest of the team is dead or almost
I can replace him no prob it just needs to work
I think feraels' fear was pretty crucial in stopping the tasi's from perma-banishing
It's pretty rng with thoran though, you need them all to be clumped up and have him ult and kill them all
Also, he needs his sig to be good...
21-9
is this duable or i need to go up a bit before attemping this?
@iron kelp setup looks ok, what artifacts are you running? and does your lyca have good equipment?
Shem blade. Tasi call. Chalice brutus eye lyca drape arden
Thx a lot @tuesday now I get smashed by this boss 8 40
@silk ingot Take out athalia for lyca, move your saveas bottom. Also, keep levelling him as much as possible ๐
@clear saddle
Lyca? I don't have lyca
@silk ingot Sorry, meant arden
Not sure why i typed lyca ๐
@iron kelp Man, your lyca luck isnt great. But she is quite gear dependant since she is usually used as a dodge tank. It would be ideal to upgrade at least the weapon and boots to 5* if you want her to dodge properly
and also strengthen them when you get the chance
I can upgrade her equip. Tomorrow im doing 60 faction scroll pulls for wilders. I just need 1 mor of her to make L+
If you can upgrade her equip as high as possible (the correct factioned ones) she will become a great dodge tank
and you could use her frontline instead of shem for certain instances, and this one could potentially be one
@clear saddle 275 (same for 276 first try) after 500 try
I was this close 2-3 times but finally
Any idea? ๐ง
@honest storm Move your shemira frontline instead of lyca. You have tasi?
Yes I do @clear saddle
Replace nemora with her
Worked... LOL ๐ Thanks ๐
Anyone can help me with 13-40, my screen are a little up in chat
On this one an idea too?
run something like
Arden/Shem
Lyca
Shem/Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira isnยดt able to send out her ulti... Too sad
Any help here? 20-4
Yep he dies quite fast @clear saddle
@honest storm Put him middle back then maybe
@vagrant goblet What artifacts are you using on each hero?
Help for 20-32?
@plush gate please try:
- Brutus
- Shemira
- Lyca
- Tasi
- Rowan (Rowan should be behind Shemira).
Try and see how it goes.
@plush gate if that one doesnt work, try taking out rowan and putting nem in
Iโll try both of those thank you! @broken egret @sacred badge
@clear saddle rngesus was on my side ๐๐๐
I have no problem with this level, I just wanna know if my lineup is fine for endgame chapters, currently at 23-12. I will buy 120 scroll, should I invest in gb or lb
LB is much better here
You want to get estrilda and belinda
signature items: first bel, lucius
you pretty much got both lb and gb which is not that good but since you have no wilder team you def. go for lb
Lucius Estrilda Fawkes Rowan Belinda
I feel like I'm so close but just cant win
have u tried shem not facing kaz since she counters her?
Yep dies in 2 secs anyways
not if you CC that lyca
Cc?
I am all in atm on the shamira hard carry and wondering if I should feed into my supports (tasi, rowan) to bump them up into L/L+ or should I go for the belinda ascended
If I go for the support I can ascend a mauler soon to get my 4th ascended or M+
Just not sure how much of a buff it is to go from epic+ to legendary
@limber slate #classic-questions
14-16. Seems like Saveas is falling of pretty hard ... Any ideas how to replace him?
@lone meteor have u been building shem up?
@opal gulch yeah but all I got is two copies from lab shop ... Never pulled her
@lone meteor u should have 4 copies of her by now right? from PoT and campaign. and since u bought 2 thats 2+2 meaning 4. if yes make M+ shemira she can carry u
@clear saddle in 23-24 Athalia always survive 75% health
@opal gulch unfortunately I don't have both yet. Campaign shemira is reward of chapter 15 and I couldn't finish the Divine realm on pot yet... So I only have two
@lone meteor oh i see. do u mind showing me all of ur heroes? thanks ๐
@opal gulch yes sure. Should I just post them into the chat here ?
@lone meteor yup posting it here is fine
@lone meteor u can go for belinda carry for now. make L+ hogan and use him to feed belinda
I'll have to get another tank so
@ember bane she does that sometimes
285 is funny
@ember bane this is what I used to beat it
Can someone help me with 14-28 please?
@rare karma try using:
Lyca
kaz
tasi
estrilda
arden
I beat 20-20 but 20-21 is killing me Iโve tried so many dif lineups not sure if I can do it without leveling up
Any ideas? Canโt level shem up anymore because my crystal is at 140
Any ideas?
@brisk heart maybe swap shem and Fawkes
@graceful hearth maybe swap Arden and tasi
Past it at this point. Swapped some levels around. Waiting on gold to get Rowan to 160 (pulled another Rowan for L+)
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Anything I could do or do I have to level up my heroes?
Doesn't seem to be working. Keep betting bodied still
@brisk heart I guess u could try wonder trio backline and shem + Lucius front.. If it doesn't work you'll just have to wait for someone more experienced than me to help xd
what's Wonder trio backline?
Oh srry lmao autocorrect.. Meant to say wilder trio @brisk heart
What's the Wilder trio? Just any old Wilder or is there a specific trio
Sorry I'm still a noob
Np but it's generally
Lyca, nemora/tasi and arden
Got it
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so I'm going with Lyca, Nemora, and Arden. Any idea what order I should put them in ?
Nemora at the bottom but rest is up to u
Understood
any help?
What is my best wrizz loadout
Does rose follow shem or Brutus
@rigid dragon its a horrible stage, but you can try taking out fawkes and use a nem instead to charm the other fereal that isn't rooted by arden
help me please...
Guys a little help: 1. 7-8 and 2. 16-36
@spare crypt try swapping your celestial for Brutus and that desert girl instead of turtle dude ๐I forgot the names sorry
And if you can get her to 120 itโll help
Iโm not @clear saddle so I donโt have the best advice, but I hope it helps
@broken egret Thanks bro
I need halp
guys, is Isabella better than Vurk???
Heโs
@pale kettle whats going on? and @atomic plover it really depends but overall I would say they both serve the same purpose in their specific faction (burst damage)
What do you mean? Both my main and mini are stuck
Scroll up if you donโt know what Iโm talking about
@pale kettle for 7-8 try rigby-lyca-nemora-eironn-belinda
and for 16-36 try shemira -brutus -nemora -fawkes -belinda, you may need to get a second tank in there to replace shemira or belinda however, lets see if this works first
Im now stuck on 15-32 - any advice?
@willow eagle thanks
@pale kettle if that doesn't work use:
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi
Force the silv dash to tasi so she can dash away after the first hit and silv dienst kill anyone
K thanks
@rare karma would swap Shemira and Kaz, given factional advantages. Also if nemora isn't living to ult maybe swap her for Rosaline.
Not sure if it'll work but no harm in trying ๐คท
@rare karma try swapping shem and Kaz position and using either tasi or Aden in the place of nem
I beat 7-8 thanks kita
Any suggestions for 15-36?
thx bois
Ahhhh who to ascend!
@pale kettle Glad it worked! tell me how the other one goes!
@pale kettle nara all THE WAY!! she is the best hero in game next to athalia due to her nature and kill potential oh sorry - and also i would say wait instead of using thse two LEG+ as fodder as they are ascended heros, if you are very desperate and want to ascend now - i would say kelthur is the better choice
@wind warren try:
Lyca/nem
Thoran/brut
Tasi
Shem
Arden
If you don't have lyca use the nem instead. For thoran VS brut just try and see what does better
Will try, thanks
@willow eagle oh whoops the fodder lego+ was cut off ๐ yeah Nara it is! Thanks by the way!!
I still get destroyed, tough level ๐ will just keep leveling up I suppose
@wind warren do you have the call on tasi in that lineup?
@spare crypt put arden in Crystal and use him for raine
1 star call on tasi, grace on shemira, eye on arden (i didn't know who else to put it on), drape on thoran
Perhaps eye should go on Shemira but i thought she's more ability dmg?
@wind warren ye I would say call on tasi indeed. Guessing that meant you don't have lyca?
My team keeps targeting Numisus totem...
@wind warren are you at least able to kill the vedan before he ults if arden roots him?
OK thanks I win
I do have lyca but she's elite only,
I don't seem to no
Everything dies too fast then Shem get's ko'd by the Niru ult
Ye ascension on the lyca doesn't matter all that much, you just want the speed
@wind warren using brut or thoran? Also how long is brut invul at your level, does he already have the 8second or still like 3 second?
Thoran, brut dies too fast and the Thoran revive fear seems to do more
and yes, brutus is 7s immunity
I legit went from 14-40 to 15-36 without stopping and now this level is impossible ๐
Hmm would expect the 7s to be enough tbh for shem and tasi to almost fully charge ult. Also yes I think eye might do better on shem for you
@wind warren 1 more quick question does arden ever do a second root, or just die to niru? If so try swapping him to the middle where he might get a second root off
issue with middle is Khasos axes - i will try. I almost had the perfect fight but nemora didn't ult on full mana :(
arden dies even faster in middle 
actually gets 0 roots off in middle as he gets interupted by the axes
Ur using nem? Who did you take out for her? You can still try him up top as well, who does tasi banish?
nem instead of lyca, tasi banishes khasos
If you use lyca instead of nem doesn't tasi banish khasos before he axes?
Ye but that's fine at least he doesn't die right? Now you gotta just have good rng I think where he roots vedan and you are able to kill vedan before he starts ulting and kills the entire team and if tasi has call both shem and tasi ulti should he at the same time which should kill most enemies I think
@visual quiver got Arden to purple should I swap him in or wait till I get him up again?
I'd try swapping him with mehira for now
Hm ok I'll try it
Should I lvl my sup up or is lvl 81 okay for now @broken egret? Put Arden on resonating crystal,
81 is fine
im thinking of replacing gwen, i can legendary tasi or nemora, which would be better for my team?
I m lazy anyone wanna suggest smth crazy to pass this stage
@pearl basin why did you legendary gwyneth in the first place
@mystic basalt please use #classic-questions
@pearl basin tasi should be better she is pretty strong with shem + luc combo
thank
I often use both tasi and nemora together with smth like Eironn they work well
I only have 5 lvld, lol
Yeah, looking for advice on my lineup, if it's optimal for where I'm at, 7-30
Replaced mehira for Arden but then I started losing and when I swap to meheria won, I swapped back I lose again, but I hear ppl saying Arden stun is good but it doesn't seem to be working with my line up
its good only if the heores you play against are "weak" to being controlled but arden is very good hero
can maybe your grez ult
if you put grez, brutus, Saveas, tasi, arden
these ppl have a lot of hp so they arent vulnerable to arden that much
What do you mean by arnt vulnerable to Arden ? I do t have a problem fighting him,
@livid cliff You need someone who can survive Saveas dmg, or you need to cc him somehow
I usually use brutus because he can survive anything, and nemora because she can charm him
Ath is just running through whatever i lay down
@silk ingot The Silvina just starts killing you right? You need to setup a backline so they don't die immediately and have a chance of surviving
Though, you might just have to wait with where you're at, to get xp
in 20 battles i nearly did it once like this lol
Yeah, that happens. Lucky crits/evades w/e
@light kite I'll try fawkes
Have you tried switching it up so saveas and brutus are at the bottom @silk ingot ? Brutus is hard to get through, Golas is too, but it might be easier?
it takes like double the time to kill golas
Something i've done a few times is to put whoever gets jumped by silvina next to saveas, so saveas kills her.
I'd personally focus on lightbearer to get that lucius up
You can't go wrong with wilders either, though
I was just one more fodder away from mythic lucius if I wanted to feed my Hogan. I was thinking Wilders too though. Thanks for the advice!
This place has pushed me too hard. :(
Nnothing is really working. Lol. Should I try a diff tank instead of lcius or?
I can get a merc but dont know who I would pick up..
@livid cliff Try nemora, and place her directly against saveas. On the same row that is. Then hope she charms him
No luck even when charmed
@livid cliff Not sure then tbh. Perhaps some more lvls or ascensions are necessary
Have a merc you gesst I should use?
@livid cliff perhaps brutus to tank the saveas, or maybe a higher shemira
@livid cliff you might wanna wait for someone else to give you help too, Im only a little ahead of you, and just speaking from experience
22-42
16-40
Can someone help me with 15-34?
Dan try using estrilda brutus shemira nara tasi
Sorry* estrilda brutus nara shemira tasi
Nara shem tasi on backline?
Yes from left to right, positions 1 to 5
Nope, Ankhira gets my Shem after 20s
Plus Tasi gets wiped out instantly @willow eagle
Maybe, try something like
Rosaline (assuming she follows shem)
- Shemira
Belinda - Brutus
Estrilda?
I'd probably run shem + brutus + tasi + lyca + arden myself though ideally arden would be level 141 for that @rare karma
Try swapping tasi out for nemora then @rare karma see if that makes a difference
@naive crown
Arden
- Shemira
Lyca - Lucius/Brutus
Nemora
You could try that, hope that nemora charms arden so he roots his own team before he roots you. That's what I did for that stage.
alright
Nope, Nemora gets critted by Khasosโ throwing axe @willow eagle
Might need to spam it a couple of times - trying to get nemora to charm khasos
otherwise we can go the opposite and swap nemora with nara
estrilda brutus nemora shemira nara--- positions 1-5 from left to right. Trying to charm ankhira's cocoons on the enemy team and nara prevents khasos crits on axes
worked first try, thank you @cerulean hamlet
Neither works. Iโll wait until the Wilder pack activates and use my scrolls ๐
@rare karma what has been the best "try" so far against that team?
Erm... likely one with Kaz in
If you had a team that killed atleast 2 heros then you can win - with a little bit of RNG. From there it may be a matter of swapping 1 or 2 heros out on your own to help boost some synergy
Thinking about it, the enemy are mostly maulers, so surely my best lightbringers would work?
try using belinda instead of shemira dan, maybe she can get a fat ult in and one shot some maulers
Nope. Ankhira gets charmed then my Nemora dies???
No ults can be used aside from Brutusโ
You might need lyca for the haste against that team, im curious let see
Instead of who?
Try Kaz Brutus nemora tasi shemira - nemora charms golus or ankhira and tasi should banish khasos or brutus -- or kaz brutus nemora lyca shemira for the haste
Anyone got a solution to 16-36? Silvina jumps on tasi
thats actually not bad! if you can get most heros to half or lower with 1 dead then with some tries and minor adjustments you can win that stage!
@sweet pasture have you tried swapping arden for nemora? and shemira with lucius?
Lucius dies super fast to Belinda
i would keep brutus frontline against kaz and belinda and at best try lucius frontline against estrilda
Ugh, I die to Brutus most times due to his shield
Help me pls
@sweet pasture try lucius brutus nemora lyca tasi in that order from left to right for positions 1-5. How does that work?
@rare karma when brutus gets his shield up - how does everything else look for the enemy team?
How do I kill anyone with that line up?
Best team comp?
@willow eagle Ankhira has ~20% hp, Khasos has 50%, and Brutus has 10%, the rest are dead
and you are using which of the two formations i sent you?
For both wrizz and Soren please?
The Tasi one
@sweet pasture try lyca brutus nemora shemira tasi then, this will all depend on lyca's rng for dodge for this comp to work.
@rare karma try swapping kaz and brutus - very small changes to see if we can tweak and make some changes
Ill just use a tasi merc
So close, if Shemโs ult would have activated I wouldve done it
Doesnโt seem possible outside of insane rng
with some luck you should be able to beat that dan.
Wait, Khasos regens hp?
yes, he has life-leech as one of his skills and it is increased per mauler on the field
And Brutus put his shield up twice?
That shouldn't be possible, unless this was in labyrinth using a specific relic.
Must have been a graphical glitch then. I can get Golus Brutus and Khasos to 10% hp but no less
I believe you can do it! you are very close, closer than you were before!
Congrats!! Glad you passed it ๐
:(
Any ideas? No Lyca
The whole day I am stuck here
@silk ingot athalia-brutus-saveas-mehira-lucius try that from left to right - positions 1 to 5
@sharp flame try Lucius brutus belinda rowan saveas - left to right - positions 1 to 5 in that order
@willow eagle i don't quite understand you mean athalia then Brutus front saveas bakc middle and mehira front? Lucius back?
@willow eagle was able to kill the Estrilda only
Athalia 1 brutus 2 Saveas 3 Mehira 4 and Lucius 5 @silk ingot
Canโt pass this... what should I do?
@sharp flame how about the health pools of the other enemies? how is that looking with that formation
Well athalia jumps then into nothing :(
@@willow eagle Estrilda dead, bloodsnarf 50%
Silvana jumps before athalia reaches here
@willow eagle the slow from morvus is what kills me tbh
@silk ingot Im trying to have your athalia jump the brutus and then force all your enemy team into a tunnel infront of your brutus
Frontline Athalia - brutus Backline Saveas - Mehira - Lucius
Any advice for 21-54?
Like this? Will try seems to be a nice idea
yes, try that pacis
@sharp flame try brutus lucius belinda rowan saveas - left to right - positions 1 to 5 in that order lets see if this makes a small difference
@willow eagleit was worse
Could you post your stage and hero box again? So i can get a closer analysis
I'll guess I'll AFK until 140 everyone and try again with better rnge
@willow eagle here it is thanks for all the help :)
any suggestions? ๐ it's 21-52
Any help for 15-36 would be greatly appreciated.
Brutus and Isabella seem to deal the most Dmg
@rare karma nemora tasi Arden back lyca Shem front
@sharp flame try brutus gorvo saveas tasi nemora - if someone isnt doing anything try replacing them with arden
Excellent! @sharp flame let me know how that works with a couple of tries and RNG!
Hey kita
@sweet pasture Nope. Not even a scratch on them.
@willow eagle , got any advice? ๐
Which hetoes should i focus?
18-40 Need help
@Kita#1337 also, is Mehira worth buying?
Try
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Ir
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
@astral remnant
@still oar I'll test them a few times each give me a minute to see how it goes.
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@sharp flame mehira is good to get but not a nessecity
If those failed Wednesday
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/640895932761899058/image0.png
I don't have athalia,But yea I think I'll just need to level a few more times and try to get my 180 crystal @still oar
Try this one @astral remnant
@still oar I'll give it a shot
GL ๐
Thatโs how I beat it @rare karma
Any ideas how to beat them? :)
Any help on 18-23?
18-40 help please
Been stuck for some days. Is this the best comp I could use?
@rare karma Try Lyca over Kaz and Shemira frontline, probably either swap Nemora for arden or try have her charm Khasos
help?
Was that with Arden or Nemora?
That stage to me looks Arden favored actually, but ideally getting 1 more level 141 would be pretty useful for you for arden root + lyca energy.
Probs something like:
Arden
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Tasi
@rare karma Wilder support is very reliant on CCing the right targets o often need a lot of retries
Both, but ill try again
@coral frigate Swap Lucius for Lyca
Arden
- Brutus
Lyca - Shemira
Nemora
Hope that nemora charms arden so he roots his team and that your arden roots nem or so
omg it worked. i tried to use arden at bottom to stun that annoying arden but using nemora instead worked great thx
Nope, I get recked by the Khasos and Isabella
Mh, honestly. Then either just keep trying, or get arden to 141 so he roots 3, there isn't really anything I can see otherwise for that :/
Ill wait for the wilder scroll pack then
Any ideas?
@cerulean hamlet also do you think i should spend my elemental scrolls on wilder or what? based on seeing my team (i hvae 16)
Yes, generally wilders are recommended due to their pool + utility, at least until you have the 3 (Tasi + Lyca + Nemora, roughly that order of priority if possible) ascended or at least 2 of them.
thx'
@split bolt Make sure Silvina jumps on Tasi, then maybe swap lucius for Brutus and possibly Saveas though your Sav isn't overleveled so maybe shem is better than Sav.
I have 5 days till I get shem to l+. Should I reset to saveas for now?
If you're able to get Sav L+ in a reasonable timeframe probably, but since you're that close to L+ shem might as well keep focusing shem.
@split bolt you have got so far good heroes
once arden out of play Eironn is gonna be rly strong substitution, much better than arden
Cannot make Silvina focus tasi. She goes for Arden. Also Iโm guessing I should spend all faction scrolls on wilders right?
Silvina goes for the enemy target with the lowest defense (prioritizing mages) so just swap gear around until arden has more than Tasi should work.
@split bolt
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Perfect! Thanks. Iโll try. Thank you all
@split bolt try what @torpid pelican said and if doesnt work try Brut, Shem; Tasi, Luca, Eironn
Who should I try and merc?
maybe Eironn to replace arden
I'll see if anyone wants to lend me an eironn
@astral remnant The setup i used to beat it was a lyca frontline against ogi, Brutus front. Arden behind lyca, Shem middle and Tasi bottom
I'll test that,What was your crystal? @clear saddle
161 I believe
Can
someone help me with 17-24 pls...
@mossy kelp What's the enemy comp + what heroes do you have?
Lyca
- Lucius
Nemora - Belinda
Rosaline
@mossy kelp Maybe Brutus over lucius but having Nemora charming Ferael will be key so try move gear around so that nemora doesn't have the lowest defense of the mages.
You have to try move gear around so another mage (probably rosaline) has lower defense, silv jumps on the one with lowest defense after all
Did it but now she doesn't do the thing where she complete interrupts someone ๐
You mean she doesn't charm? She should still do it so might take some RNG to get right targeting/not getting interrupted
Any way I can beat this?
Which one should i be buying
@foggy sinew Shemira will be the way to go, though in the future ask general questions in #classic-questions :)
This channel is mostly for hero lineups.
anyone got a 16-40 solution?
Generally against that comp I used:
Arden
- Shemira
Lyca - Brutus
Nemora
or the same one as you're using now. Either should work but will both take a bit of RNG
i tried it maybe 100 times but ill keep going
i wanna beat it while the faction scrolls are wilder
Mh, I think there's one variation more I've used against that comp which was
Shemira
- Lyca
Tasi - Brutus
Nemora
And then pray for Shem + Tasi ult
k ill try that one some
Hey does anyone know the best lineup for the evil nemora fight? Im lvl 267 and my usual is 43 candies per fight
43 is fine
44 is max, the hardest part of the fight is killing the first 4 dreafs so optimal comp is generally Shemira + Rosa + Rowan + 2 XX that are whatever that help you clear those out in the first 10 sec. I personally use Lyca + Estrilda but I've seen Estrilda + Belinda/Twins or so too work @violet temple
Thanks fish. I have been using shem rowan Belinda estrilda and raine
Hm, you probably want to replace raine in that comp as her ult doesn't really work past the first wave and comes out too late to help there (summoned minions don't give the ult benefit regen)
who would the best merc be to use for 16-40 @cerulean hamlet
An Ascended shemira if she'd be stronger than yours, otherwise brutus or tasi
floor 180
Lyca, Kaz, or Ezizh as last for this team ?
Currently at 9-35 on day 9 of playing, would i progress further if i reset my 3 other heroes and drop them to 101 to make lucius 121 and savaes 120?
Or shld i just wait out for exp from afk-ing?
I think at this stage of the campaign, Belinda can replace Saveas as your main hard carry. Use Belinda Rowan Lucius as your core. You can probably add Estrilda too I guess since you need a 2nd front line with Lucius and it will give you the 4-buff. Then as 5th you can rotate betwen Raine, Nemora, or Brutus when needed (if your frontline gets melted in 1s). You're more or less at the point where I had to stop using Saveas. then I had to stop using Belinda around stage 14 or 15 as Shemira become more valuable as main carry. I wanted to use something else sometimes, but I couldnt, on all my account, and for my friends too, that's what workd the best: Main carry Saveas till stage 8 more or less, then Belinda till stage 14 more or less, then Shemira. And right now at the stage 20-53 Shemira is still the most valuable hard carry
Chapter 10 stage 40 , help me please
If you switch positions of Belinda and Golus, is there a way you can melt Vedan before he ults ?
And I would probably use Gwyneth or Thane or Gemini or Orthros or Shemira instead of Golus, in all situations I guess. I feel like these 5 are far superior to Golus, even if he's Legendary atm. Others will brings way more to the table
Use Belinda Rowan Lucius as core, then switch in/out Hogan Orthros Gwyneth Thane Shemira Gemini and see what works best
In stages like that, I have 2 strategies, 1 is melting the Vedan before he ults, the other is ignoring Vedan by tanking it, and breaching the other side of the board with my dps heroes. But at the stage you're at, I guess breaching the top side isn't an option ? Best bet is to try to melt the Vedan. Anyway, try to melt the other side and breaching, or try to melt the Vedan
any suggestions for the wrizz lab fight?
@toxic solstice belinda is still cap at 120 for now till i get one more copy of her, was using her but have been rotating my line up, do you think it will work?
I feel i have been pushing quite far ahead on my server, currently top 50 on server 362 not sure if changing her will help push with the LB formation bonus. I feel im lacking xp/fodders atm
Your other heroes are capped at 120 too (except Lucius). That's why I feel like Belinda will do more work than Saveas at this point
Out of the ones with the red upgrades possible, who is the most useful to level up their signature item?
Lucius
My main line is Shem and luci/brut front and nemora Fawkes Belinda back line.
Thank you rytlockie ๐
You could probably exchange one of your tanks (Skreg probably) or Morvus for another damage dealer or support hero.
Vurk. Gwyneth. Safiya. Possibly Arden.
@proud lodge I personally would go luc and skreg front with vurk morvus and Belinda back
Need help with wilder tower 95, what merc do I need to get?
you're gonna want to swap out morvus asap though
@sharp hornet Eironn would be quite useful for that stage
@cerulean hamlet swapping out for who?
I'd say Kaz, esp considering how Kaz is also a merc.
You're pretty much set for standard meta once you get shem some more levels @toxic pagoda
Shemira + Brutus/Lucius + Tasi + Lyca + Nemora/Arden
As high as your crystal allows her to be generally
Im going to reset sav
Is it worth it ?
I probably shouldn't have gone hard mode =x
But any line up help would be appreciated in an attempt to salvage it
I do think so. Her 161 skills is the one that make her powerful @toxic pagoda
Try
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi/nemora
Start the battle with Arden rooting Arden and kaz
Or
Arden
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Same deal. Arden roots Arden
@pale kettle
It helps if I can see the relics and your heroes energy. Blindly try
Tasi
lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Belinda.
Use slumber to start the battle and Rowan's coins to cc Athalia. With luc's shield and shemira's ult you should be able to rng I hope @vital cave
I'm stuck.
Thank you @still oar I'll give those a try. Here are the relics I grabbed. I didn't manage to exit out in time so I was about to use a Tear
Start the battle by charming ferael. Move nemora to middle and swap tasi with Arden. Rng a bit @slender wedge
What is the best lineup to use on the soren fight? Its always been a bit of a tough one for me
You have a good set @vital cave. Maybe the not good one is the aegis of preservation. They do not stack. Book of war and I forgot the name, the relic that cut cc time, also do no stack.
With that line up above you should be able to rng. If failed don't be afraid to use tears. You get 3 every week so use them moderately isn't bad
Idk bout best since I don't know every fight but this comp is great @violet temple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609275505526439974/641413003794710528/Screenshot_20191106-000449.jpg
Thank you i appreciate it
@still oar ok, thanks again!
@glad nimbus If you plan to build Shemira and use her by 161, start buying her exclusively.
@glad nimbus This belongs more in #classic-questions but shemira is good for beginners as you need to start buying her so that she becomes usable once saveas falls off
idk what i'm even building tbh...im just barely getting through the chapters
im on 5-40 right now
I can make Hogan L+ right now, ugh.. I don't really want to. Should I?
I think I can anyways?
I've been holding off on any ascends trying to get another lucius for e+
Should I go for leg+ kaz or food for ascended nemora?
Tower of light help
@paper idol yes do it
Hey guys, any tips on Vedan 14-4?
@low zephyr you can reset sav and make shemira 180. Also.. always post your stage and roster as well
@fierce kayak Oh, i went with
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Saveas
Hmm, interesting, so you're saying to just fodder sav?
@low zephyr lol without a doubt feed sav to brutus the trade off is worth it. You can always make a new sav but brutus is more sustainable and useful.
Any help will be much appreciated
True. I've been trying to build another one anyway. Aight thanks
Who should I focus or what faction? Iโm confused as to how to progress
@low zephyr
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
@tall forge that should go into the questions Chanel
So is this channel for campaign line up?
@tribal phoenix lel.
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca
Shem
Arden
If thatโs the case, what should I do here? I canโt seem to pass this
The hero on the enemy team at the top does way too much damage and is too tanky
@tall forge yeah because sav is ultra buf for no reason lol
Try
Arden
Lyca
Shem/belinda
Brutus
Sav
People told me to rush sav first xd thatโs why, ty Iโll try this though ๐
@tall forge he becomes obsolete pretty fast. Arden honestly lasts so much longer its ridiculous
@paper idol ascended NEmoraaa
So should I level up Arden, Brutus or save up till I get one more copy of Saveas for legendary?
@torpid pelican
How far are u from 45k lab coins????
Pretty far, Iโm at 10k rn but I bought Shem so
Alright so when u have enough for that second shem bring her straight to legendary and max her out
Iโll be able to get her to legendary+ too so thatโs good
Already have 2 fodder elite+ grave
struggling this for a day now, any ideas?
The way I got theough the levels your on is maxing Belinda and brutus. Love belinda is charged up she wrecks most of the enemy
Hmm Iโll see. Ty again @torpid pelican
@ivory breach have you tried belinda instead of sav??
problem here is i get hogan smashed to the ground real quick, then lucius doesnt even charge in time for ulti also and everyone dies, with belinda i got the same result
Oh f^&> the level difference wont work. Switch sav and rosa for Belinda dn Lyca. Tell me how thar goes down
I ran into a hurdle after about 43 stages.
@untold rivet your tank game is ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
yea was better, all survived couldnt get it tho, but so much better
@ivory breach how Mny enemies died
I know they suck.... That is why I am asking for some help. As I siad though I was on like 13-30 tonight when I started mt run, this is 14-39
none but like 3 really low
@untold rivet long shot
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Doubt itll work but yolo
Will try it
@ivory breach flip flop it. Switch Belinda and nem then switch lucius and hogan
That did worse than my main hitters, lol
yea doing it atm
.
Nope
U just need her at mythic
Max her level out. And have brutus at legendary that'll solve the tank issue
nah must be a wall unti a upgrade, best i got was this
@untold rivet
Nemora
Shem
Rosa
Brutus
Belinda.
Trump that once ur done adjusting