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jaunty compass
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Nope xD just asking

prisma kindle
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@jaunty compass don't use 4 skills hero's as food. You could on the other hand ascend Belinda with the 2 others. If you are not using them of course

jaunty compass
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Im using hogan, more than belinda. But saw some guys saying that she is good, thats why im still holding

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But not mirael

broken egret
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@oak lance can shem survive on the Frontline? If so maybe try:
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi
If not you could still try
Nem
Brut
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
Where if you have high tier boots your nem should be able to charm enemy arden so he roots his own team

prisma kindle
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@jaunty compass She's quite good. I'd ascend her with the other 2. You can switch Hogan with Shemira if she can survive. She's a good tank.

jaunty compass
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Hmm, use belinda in place of shemeria, and shemira of hogan? I'll give a try

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@prisma kindle hmm, nice, maybe with betters equips i can do this trade

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In this lvl, just khasos survive, low life. Maybe if arden was an elite, this should be better

plucky flint
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Still stuck on 23-24. Been here for weeks. ANY suggestions highly welcome. Iโ€™m about a week from having enough dust for 240 crystal.

visual quiver
still oar
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Can your Arden beat Arden @visual quiver?
Think I used
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Arden control Arden and kaz and nemora charm saveas so he can help brutus killing ulmus

visual quiver
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that doesn't work sadly. shem can't tank kaz at all and one root isn't enough for shem to survive even if she gets ult

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and ulmus doesn't die before brutus either

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nvm. beat the stage. thanks @still oar

still oar
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๐Ÿ‘

digital cloud
still oar
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Try
Belinda/Shem
Luc
Arden/tasi
Ulmus
Tasi/arden
And when you get yourself a lyca, the bunny lady on dear with arrow, resonate her. She will help your CC crew
@digital cloud

topaz eagle
pale kettle
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i have a usual comb of lightbearer but uhm against graveb not so good

still oar
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Try
Lyca
Brutus (tank)
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan or Arden if you have him
It is the standard start the fight with charm ferael so he CC's his mates @pale kettle

topaz eagle
still oar
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The SS so old I can't play the video lol. Try the mine.
Mehira has call and Shem blade

gray parrot
timid quail
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Pic of the tile/floor? Makes it a bit easier

topaz eagle
high horizon
rustic blade
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@topaz eagle using line ups with rowan and ros usually doesnt work, in rare special set ups its very effective like with belinda if you can pull their ults off but with smth like shem dont even bother

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i see many ppl use those lol

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oh well in my experience they tend to fall apart once you are pushing for progress

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@high horizon one of the things my friend always did on these lvl is try to charm arden to root his own team you can do that with rng (and nemora + luca combo usually)

high horizon
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Who would you remove

rustic blade
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i mean idk how match unfolds but i typically never pass lvls with ros (yet) (maybe if her sig is 20/30) then she might prove herself more useful in campaign

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now flawkes vs rowan is kinda debatable

high horizon
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My sig is +10 on her

rustic blade
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since you need to see who he confines and how that changes the battle

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brutus is important to buy time against Ogi + Ira and shemira is you key dmg dealer

worldly shale
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LB team, my other tank is lucius, should i use an E hendrik over E+ hogan? (level 120 both)

rustic blade
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so we cant remove those as far as i see unless you can make a good queue with lucious ult + his shield ability sometimes that works too

high horizon
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Honestly luc dies too fast

rustic blade
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@worldly shale everything isnt that simple as white and black lol, depends primarily on the stage. I personally never had experience with Hendrik so i cant say. but lucious is a good hero on many chapters

gray parrot
worldly shale
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its not between lucius or hendrik. lucius is clearly awesome at pretty much all the content. it was between hogan and hendrik

gray parrot
rustic blade
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i think on lvl 120 you can still use luc and hogan effectively

high horizon
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Everyone saying Lucius is better

rustic blade
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you can also invest into luc by eating hogan if you see that they perform similarly in your team or leave them both as frontline if you want to get some faction bonus

high horizon
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But my Brutus still lasts longer than my Lucius

rustic blade
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@gray parrot you are using some strong heroes, they will come handy after sig items

worldly shale
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i was playing for a while before i did any actual research into the game, so i'm heavily invested in a LB only team, i don't even have a copy of shem yet, so thats why i was specifically asking between hogan and hendrik. thanks for the feedback

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no brutus, or any of the "meta" heroes really, other than my lucius

rustic blade
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@high horizon as i said depends on the stage, that stage def brutus if i had a choice, since getting luc ult there and keep him alive is a pain in the butt not gonna lie i have passed those by using him but i had to include quite a lot of cc and rng

gray parrot
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@rustic blade thanks bud ID like to get there first if You have any suggestion in pretty behind in power level

rustic blade
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@worldly shale dont be discouraged. some heroes become meta only in late chapters

worldly shale
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oh i'm not even remotely discouraged rofl

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i dont really care about the meta, i'll work on it in time, which is why in my question i specified for a LB team, that's all

rustic blade
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@gray parrot hire mercs that you need that will always do the job in tricky levels

gray parrot
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I have 160k vs 260k i dont think ill kill the next level even If i use merchs here

rustic blade
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I had the same kinda idea when i started the game to focus on LB but then realized I dont have enough fodders to make that viable and that was pushing my back quite a bit on progress. Be careful

worldly shale
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i mean, i guess quite a few people ask questions about line up cause they get stuck or frustrated or something.... but discouraged? about a video game, that sounds silly to me.

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and i also dont give a shit about progress... its an idle game basically, and like 5th down on my list of games i prioritize. its not i can "catch up" without spending a ton of money, its a mobile game thats time gated after all

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i'll try and keep my team optimized as i go of course, but i dont let everyone elses idea of how fast i should progress or what team i need to use to get in the way of my enjoyment

rustic blade
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@gray parrot oh u r wrong, wat nice about mercs is not as much that they can be more powerful but the fact that you can hire the right hero for your situation

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@worldly shale thats why we have a server with some memeber solutions to ch 22-26, its going great i sometimes use the cheat sheet just to see what the enemy line up is vulnerable to and then try to recreate the scenario with what i got ๐Ÿ˜„

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by that i dont mean use the same heroes but sometimes using a hero like Eironn can be quite impactful on how the round unfolds from the very start

topaz eagle
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Please can anyone post a 23-24 completion Iโ€™ve gained 2 240s since reaching this, +20d a new sig, had three weeks of different Mercs, tried meta lineup and several different other setups and the closest Iโ€™ve gotten is Lyca dies

rustic blade
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sorry took some time to go on my phone check what 23-25 was search if i have any cc of 23-24 or 23-25 , name it and post it here

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it was a while back

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btw i believe this photo credit goes to: @Wolkenwanderer

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And thatโ€™s mine

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Hope that helps

willow eagle
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@topaz eagle for that specific stage - your biggest hurdle is the marek and the athalia - try to focus on around that while exposing the weakness of that stage. a good example that will work against that with a couple of tries potentially is - tasi thoran nara fereal athalia - you are forcing athalia to bottleneck into thoran and tasi will dodge seirus to get faster banish/sleep - also nara pulls and prevents their tasi on getting a fast banish so this gives you time.

rustic blade
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<- I heard he is a pro ๐Ÿ™‚ (from reliable sources)

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Warek*

mighty elk
finite bramble
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Any help for me?

worn stream
shell hamlet
ancient edge
idle patrol
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How do I kill this dude in labyrinth

bitter burrow
still oar
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Try
Lyca nemora Arden as backline. Charm him so he would cc his own mates. If you failed to charm him restart the battle @bitter burrow

still quest
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Potete aiutarmi?

bitter burrow
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Thx again Andi :)

still quest
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I need help ๐Ÿ˜“

still oar
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If your heroes have full energy try
Nemora
Luc
Belinda
Shemira
Tasi
Try charm saveas or just auto if you have the relics
Try level your shemira or belinda up. Since they're your potential carry either should be the highest level @still quest

Your main problem probably relics and your carry is lower than your tank

pale kettle
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anyone has screenshot for 22-45?

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nvm cleared it lol

pale kettle
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Stuck at 9-35, using anything other than (Lucius, Mehira, Shemira, Athalia and Nara) dies almost instantly cause theyโ€™re too squishy. Anyone has a better lineup I can try? Or am I stuck till I pull more Shemiras to reach L+?

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anyone has screenshot for 22-48?

shell hamlet
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@still oar did you see mine?

worthy bane
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@pale kettle Post a pic of the enemy lineup

pale kettle
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When Ira shoots her arrows my team just dies immediately

shadow bane
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I've been stuck on this stage for almost two weeks. I'm hoping to clear 9-40 so I can get the second estrilda and get her to legendary to replace Hogan.

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Any help would be super appreciated.

hollow thistle
oblique gale
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Try reversing Tasi And Saveas and use Arden instead of Nemora @hollow thistle

hollow thistle
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Ok ill give that a shot, only problem is i cant get ardens 3 entangle skill yet

oblique gale
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Maybe you'll need to spam the fight a little bit so that each hero can do their job.

worn trout
wise merlin
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@worn trout Hello!

Out of all of your heroes, you're to focus on Vedan and Silvina the most, I'd also say you should focus on one of the other Elites you've got in your list, since they will keep your level cap going, preferably Hogan since it's easy to get clones of him.

Overall, the logic of the game goes as so : You firstly prioritize heroes who have high DPS / Reliability in carrying the rest of your team (early on)

After then, the tanks in your lineup, ensuring greater durability of Frontlines

And lastly, supports, charming / Healing / shielding allies who could protect your DPS and Tanks from dying (You could also however level up heroes who are both frontline and support, like Lucius, Hendrik, etcetera.)

Hope this helps! ๐Ÿ™‚

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OH! and next time, please use the channel that's made for these kind of questions, named #classic-questions ๐Ÿ˜Š

worn trout
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Thanks

broken egret
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@quiet falcon first off all i would like to advise you to push shem to 240 first, either by resetting lucius or doing her next, but resetting luci will help you push some stages right now.
For setup i would say use something like:
lyca/shem
shem/lyca
tasi
brut/luci
arden
make sure you arden roots faster than enemy by giving him decent boots, for the lyca vs shem setup see if shem can survive frontline if yes, use her in front, if not use lyca in front of her to tank a couple hits

quiet falcon
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Thanks

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@broken egret i appriciate you ๐Ÿ˜

broken egret
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it worked already?

ocean elk
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Could anyone suggest how to beat this please? I can't seem to pull this off

odd python
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use your nemora and hope for chain charm

pale kettle
broken egret
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@pale kettle you can try:
arden
shem
tasi
brut
lyca
if shem cant survive long enough frontline with that comp, try:
shem
lyca
arden
brut
tasi

clear saddle
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2nd one is more likely to work. Ira is very strong against shem carry users, would be best to try and avoid that matchup.

small acorn
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@charred wind your brutus is too weak, you need to kill atleast 1 umlus before they both roots.

olive thorn
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Hey guys, I come to you to share a guide on team building that I wrote with a fellow guild member. It explains my way of thinking in order to build a team, and gives some examples of team building to give context. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10xGg11YZO031xuxDdgD1G17JIKunHXRQKjcgEQdqFiw/edit

clear saddle
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@charred wind I beat it using Shem Brutus Fawkes Rosa Rowan. I don't see a rowan there, is there one hiding anywhere?

olive thorn
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Pinned brutus

charred wind
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@clear saddle i dont have rowan

clear saddle
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Could try with Estrilda in the back as well, or Lyca

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You just need to go crazy with energy gain to try and kill them as quick as possible

tall forge
pale kettle
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@broken egret my shem dies faster in the bottom one in the top one I can sometimes get shem and tasi ult off but my shem dies to ira bleed during it

naive crown
broken egret
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@naive crown swap out nem for tasi and use call on tasi

naive crown
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Aight

worn stream
clear saddle
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@worn stream you have a shemira above your hogan there? Use her in place of one of your lesser DPS and put her against Niru, you want to kill him asap

hazy jasper
broken egret
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@hazy jasper you might be able to i think, try:
arden
shem
tasi
brut
lyca
if shem cant survive frontline try:
lyca
shem
arden
brut
tasi

clear saddle
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Charming the saveas with arden and lyca backline might work. might need lyca frontline against the kaz though

hazy jasper
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Thanks guys. I've just tried these three configurations, hasn't worked but have only tried once with each. Will try some more for rng, though my arden is only elite+.

summer hatch
clear saddle
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@hazy jasper E+ arden should be fine ๐Ÿ™‚

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@summer hatch Who is your main damage? belinda or shem? its recommended to only have 1

summer hatch
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Theyโ€™re both about even on AR.

hazy jasper
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@clear saddle @broken egret I've managed it with
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Thanks for your input, I'd been stuck for over over a week!

clear saddle
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@summer hatch Would recommend resetting belinda and levelling shemira to 240, she gets super strong then.

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Oh wait you need 200 crystal first for that

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sorry

summer hatch
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Yeah Iโ€™m stuck atm

spare crypt
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Hello everybody I need help for this level and I can use the crystal

idle oriole
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@spare crypt
Athalia
-Lucius
Tasi
-shem
Nemora

spare crypt
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@idle oriole thank you very much bro I win you are the best ๐Ÿ‘

ancient raptor
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Welp ive gotten stuck now until i make my grezhul and fareal ascended unless someone can see a strong team that i am missing. Because i could have looked over something

wise merlin
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@ancient raptor Hey! Try this one out :

Tasi
Shemira
Nemora (charm Seirus)
Brutus
Lyca

If Shemira will drain Tasi, she will force her to teleport, then keep resetting until Shemira's silence is directed at Tasi, and not Niru, and you should be more than clear to pass through the stage !

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^
Remember, Call on Shemira, Grace on Lyca, Blade on Brutus, Drape on Nemora, Eye on Tasi

still quest
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Thank you @still oar

ancient raptor
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@wise merlin thanks for the advice ive given it a try and it seems my lyca and tasi are just too weak to fight but my whole team tends to get annihilated.

Silva jumps my tasi almost one hits her she teleports away and gets killed then a few moments later serius ults and it just wipes everyone nearly brutus is the last boy standing which sadly doesnt last long lol

But thanks muchly appreciate the help

wise merlin
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@ancient raptor Try to pull up a bait for Silvina to take whilst keeping the Faction Bonus. have you got an Arden that can be bait for Silvina while Tasi will be kept alive and maybe even helping?

If Nemora can't do much, then you could swap Nemora for Arden.

ancient raptor
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Okay cool ill try arden out havent used him in ages.

Should i give all nems gear to tasi? Rather then arden if his goal is to be bait?

silk ingot
ancient raptor
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i dont even know what happened but i took out lyca for fawkes just randomly thought why not im not passing it he died instantly didnt get to trap anyone and have no faction bonus now but i won please explain lol

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@wise merlin

wise merlin
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@ancient raptor Re-watch the replay and see your alies' casts, see if Seirus died early, or Niru died first, etc.

pale kettle
clear saddle
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@pale kettle You only need to level 5 main heroes, the rest can be put in the resonating crystal ๐Ÿ™‚

shell hamlet
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anybody got 16-24 saved?

ancient raptor
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@silk ingot try nemoria and arden in the backrow over saveas and the witchy girl forgot her name fpr a nice faction bonus

shell hamlet
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i can send it if thatโ€™d help

clear saddle
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@pale kettle In terms of your actual setup, you could run something like Shemira Lucius Belinda Hogan Estrilda maybe

pale kettle
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Yeah I figured I used the resonating before but the spots were taken ๐Ÿ˜‚ I'm a pleb

shell hamlet
scenic frost
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@shell hamlet i did lyca, shemira, tasi, brutus, arden

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put arden where nemora is and replace nemora for lyca

pale kettle
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Placement?
Front
1 lucius
2 hogan
3 estrilda
Back
4 shemira
5 Belinda

@clear saddle

ancient raptor
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@pale kettle put lucius and estrilda infront line belinda shem and maybe thoran for the 15%faction bonus for now

shell hamlet
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@scenic frost iโ€™ll try ty

clear saddle
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@pale kettle Sounds alright for now. Estrilda is a support, despite her tank role but she may not be so good at your level. Could use arden instead of her

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Faction Bonus isn't crucial either, but a little bit would be nice if you can get it.

pale kettle
scenic frost
ancient raptor
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@wise merlin by the time i went back it was gone lol app had to reload for some reason. Anyway to watch a replay afterwards still?

clear saddle
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@scenic frost Does your tasi die very fast/cant get her ult off?

silk ingot
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@ancient raptor

scenic frost
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most of the time. assuming she doesnt get crit and jumps to either arden or shem she usually gets it off @clear saddle

clear saddle
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@scenic frost Having your shemira going up against the grezhul isn't ideal, can your shemira tank the silvina once tasi jumps by swapping shem and brutus around?

scenic frost
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not really, shem only 405k

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if silv ult crits shemira gets 1 hit fully

clear saddle
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Maybe if you do something like

Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi?

wise merlin
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@ancient raptor No! But I'm happy to hear you passed it, congratulations :P

scenic frost
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@clear saddle got it with that tyvm

ancient raptor
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@silk ingot try the athilia over the saveas for the 10% bonus if it doesnt and put her in the top back row. If not have you got much good gear for saveas he use to be so strong in the early game till like 160+

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@wise merlin damn thanks heaps for the assistance glad to be past it for a couple stages haha

wise merlin
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Anytime. ๐Ÿ™‚

scenic frost
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18-36 looks scarier than 18-32 oh boy here we go again

ancient raptor
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@wise merlin I jinxed myself literally got stuck two stages later

wise merlin
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@ancient raptor You can ask another time if you'd like, it's why I'm here. ๐Ÿ˜„

scenic frost
clear saddle
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That setup looks right, or you can swap shem with arden if he dies too quick

ancient raptor
wise merlin
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@ancient raptor Charm the enemy Ferael using Nemora, put her in the middle, give it a few re-tries.

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If Ferael gets banished / put in Fawkes' coffin, try Lyca instead of Fawkes.

ancient raptor
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Thats litterally what i just did haha cause he always coffined him and nobody else

barren stream
floral ravine
shrewd depot
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Team just gets wrecked by CC and AOE. Iโ€™ve tried everything I feel.

silk ingot
iron kelp
idle oriole
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@silk ingot
Arden
-Lucius
Athalia
-Brutus
Saveas

honest storm
willow eagle
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@honest storm do you have a nara by chance to pull isabella? - that should work against that comp tremendously with placement along with arden

scenic frost
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@silk ingot why do u have a L shemira that ur not using

willow eagle
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@honest storm when you use this - Shemira Brutus Lyca Nemora Tasi - (positions 1-5 from left to right) who does silvinia jump?

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She should be jumping your tasi.. but you never know. Also another thing to take note - what has been your most successful try so far at that stage?

jaunty flume
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Please help I am stuck

broken egret
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@jaunty flume try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi
Or if shem cant frontline
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brut
Tasi
If that doesn't work try this one maybe
Arden
Brut
Tasi
Lyca
Shem

sharp hornet
jaunty flume
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@broken egret thanks it worked

iron kelp
burnt knot
visual quiver
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ferael. he'll probably be your carry after shem gets "useless" late ch23 or so

potent acorn
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@burnt knot You should focus on Ferael and Eironn

still oar
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Unfortunately no @shell hamlet

tribal phoenix
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Any help will be appreciated

vernal bough
idle oriole
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@vernal bough lol nice name

sharp flame
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Any ideas? No Lyca

idle oriole
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U can use Wilder trio backline and charm sav with nemora and Brutus shem front line

sharp flame
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I'll give it a go

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Got killed in 15 seconss

rustic blade
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@pale kettle its tough to pass it with 220 heroes and 1 240 but i believe its possible. since rewards dont change and you can claim them anytime i would suggest to wait a bit and try to 1st of all focus on campaign progress

silk ingot
sweet pasture
spark tusk
oblique gale
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Do not use ascended tier heroes to ascend another one. @spark tusk

pale kettle
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Getting brutalized here, I can handle the fodder fights, but once itโ€™s an elite match I get massacred. What would you all recommend?

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@sweet pasture I would swap in Lucius for survivability for Arden, and use
frontline: Lucius Shemira
Backline: Brutus, Lyca, Nemora

whole terrace
sweet pasture
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@pale kettle that team gets blown up instantly

pale kettle
still oar
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Still too early and your lb still lacks of Lucius imo @whole terrace.
Rowan, Belinda and luc are kinda the core lb

onyx basin
still oar
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Resonate eironn. Tasi, eironn, lyca, nemora will be your core you add Arden, ulmus depends on the floor. Usually he is in 4 but he can be Frontline sometimes especially if you can properly give him gears and ascencion. @onyx basin

junior hound
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Lineup for 23-24?

pale kettle
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Would a lvl 120 Ira be better than a lvl 100 Athalia? Athalia is way better according to tier lists, but would 20 more levels on Ira make up for it?

sweet pasture
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Why wouldn't you reset ira and make a 120 athalia?

pale kettle
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athalia isn't ascended

barren stream
sweet pasture
dreamy mirage
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Any suggestions on how to beat 15-40, tried a bunch of different heroes and placement

sweet pasture
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Try Nemora Tasi Arden back Lyca Shem front

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charm farael

dreamy mirage
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@sweet pasture you're a genius

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Thank you sir.

sweet pasture
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๐Ÿ™‚

fading cipher
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Lineup for Kings tower 262?

visual quiver
fierce kayak
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@dreamy mirage You pass 15-40? If yet to, nemora middle back is the way to charm ferael actually. Ignore if you pass.. G luck.

gaunt hearth
worthy bane
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@gaunt hearth You shouldn't need to do anything to pass that stage. You overlevel them by 15 levels. Stop leveling more than 5 hero's though, it's slowing your progress immensely

gaunt hearth
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Kk

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I mean ik that I'm over there level I was just asking if I needed to change it @worthy bane

worthy bane
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@gaunt hearth Your number 1 priority is should be resetting down to 5 heros. More than 5 leveled is super bad for your progress. Your overall team is fine, it's setup nicely

gaunt hearth
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Ok ty

rough spear
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Hello

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Can someone tell me what to focus on and how to progress further

worthy bane
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@rough spear Main rule of thumb, only focus on 5 heros early on. Don't use xp on more than 5. So far your team setup looks good. Once you start ascending more look at the ascension guide pinned to the channel

rough spear
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I will look at that.

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How do I get more hero experience ,I'm stuck on a campaign level and can't get passed it

worthy bane
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@rough spear Wait. Grind out as much as you can and afk.

rough spear
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How do I grind

worthy bane
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Push as far as you can

rough spear
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In campaign? Or do you mean somewhere else

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Because I'm stuck on campaign

opal ledge
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Got brutus and lucius today. What should be my next moves?

worthy bane
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@rough spear I'm talking everywhere

rough spear
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@worthy bane haha

worthy bane
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@opal ledge You are set up. I'd run - Brutus, Lucius, Lyca/Arden, Tasi, and Nemora. But you have options for pretty much anything

rough spear
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@@worthy bane I can see you're experience and active though

opal ledge
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Should I reset Hogan?

worthy bane
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I would

opal ledge
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Put it into brutus instead? Save Hogan to feed to lucius when I need to make him L

worthy bane
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Yep

opal ledge
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Thanks!

pale kettle
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@worthy bane sorry for the shameless ping but any help you could offer would be amazing.

worthy bane
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@pale kettle No worries lol. Is this general lineup help you're asking for?

pale kettle
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Oh for dismal descent mostly but general opinion would be cool too

worthy bane
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Lemme check which one dismal is first lol

visual quiver
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@fierce kayak thanks a lot! just beat it with call on shemira and your formation

worthy bane
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Oh that chaotic mess, I'd run Shem, Brutus, Lucius, Grez, Nara, or run Tasi over one if the GB tanks. Basically tank + Shem your way through as much as you can

pale kettle
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@worthy bane alright awesome thanks yeah itโ€™s hellish to say the least. I will give that a shot

rocky hawk
worthy bane
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@pale kettle It's overall gonna be tough. That peak took me a bit. The guides on it help a bunch

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@rocky hawk Do you have any of the others? Or just Grez

rocky hawk
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just grez

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should I post my current common line up too?

fierce kayak
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@visual quiver sure. Gratz. Shemira uses call more often from here onwards especially if the stage is a tough one.

worthy bane
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I'd just go for Grez, consistently pick him up as he's decent at all stages.

fierce kayak
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@rocky hawk save till max 500k coins then decide with your larger pool of heroes. Getting one or two heroes here won't be game changing.

rocky hawk
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should I replace my antandra by him at some point? Lucius is kind of a must for me

pale kettle
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Ehhh antandra is s tier so no real need to replace

rocky hawk
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I've seen a lot of people using Fawkes as well so wasn't sure if he was that good that I should get him atm

fierce kayak
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Antadra is not S tier

rocky hawk
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Well she's really good for me atm with her crazy recovery

fierce kayak
rocky hawk
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@fierce kayak aight will do

pale kettle
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I apologize for that misinformation. And this is why I should be checking the tier list more frequently.

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle np, cheers. The tier list out there is actually only good for newbies to get a general idea of heroes, but read it with a pinch of salt. It's not that accurate to based on the tier list and determine heroes usefulness for this game.

radiant parcel
whole terrace
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@radiant parcel shem nemo tasi lyca rosa

vivid creek
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@whole terrace hey any advice you could give? ๐Ÿ˜

whole terrace
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@vivid creek level your shem as much as you can. Take levels from everyone else to get her to 181+

vivid creek
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Wow xD what about for the specific stage? ๐Ÿ˜

whole terrace
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That is for specific stage. Leveling properly will help more with stages than lineups

still oar
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It needed quite an rng if I recall it correctly

vivid creek
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@still oar hmm Im currently using Blade on Shemira xD

still oar
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If you already have blade use blade

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I didn't have at the time

vivid creek
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Hmm I keep trying with rng

topaz tangle
vivid creek
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@still oar actually made it to 15-40 now stuck again xD i get melted

fierce kayak
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@vivid creek Arden top back, Lyca bottom back, nemora middle back. Nemora charm ferael, reset if charm fails.

vivid creek
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@fierce kayak yeha even if nemora charms him and arden roots him right after, my team still almost always dies in less than 30 seconds

fierce kayak
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@vivid creek will work. Keep trying.

radiant parcel
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@whole terrace Thanks a tonโค๏ธ it worked. Had to hire a merc but I was still able to push through

pale kettle
oblique gale
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Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
@pale kettle Maybe with that?

pale kettle
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I kinda use that comp but i use lucius over brutus

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So im kinda doing the right thing i guess, interesting

oblique gale
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I prefer Brutus to Lucius, especially for the simple arena! But yes, it remains a more or less viable way to play ๐Ÿ˜„

proper crest
#

Just wondering what will work best for holloween. Boss

sweet pasture
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@vivid creek Try Nemora Tasi Arden back Lyca Shem front

ancient edge
outer burrow
strange mortar
#

Anyone have any suggestions on a solid basic lineup and what heroes I should work on?

torpid pelican
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@ancient edge
IRA
Lyca
Nemora
Ulmnus
Belinda

ancient edge
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@torpid pelican thank you

topaz tangle
odd python
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@topaz tangle not sure how well it would work out with your lineup because it seems like you will usually end up with niru or shem at the end and idk if belinda can 1v1/1v2, hope for nemora to charm ferael and go from there i guess

ember bane
clear saddle
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@ember bane How much health did the athalia have in the first picture?

hard seal
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Im facing with so many choices on who to ascend...any recommendation? Btw i use lucius as my main tank with brutas

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But i can also upgrade fawkes or estilda to mystic right away

clear saddle
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Better to wait until you have more copies of other heroes, fawkes isn't as ascension dependant.

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If you run LB damage, you need to wait for more copies of belinda or gwyneth

north pelican
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@topaz tangle try Brutus , Lucius , fawkes, Belinda, tasi

old bough
glad nimbus
clear saddle
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Only ascend your iras, try and make 2 elite iras so that you can make her E+

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the rest can wait

lost nova
still oar
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Try
Saveas
Lyca
Arden/tasi
Luc(tank)
Nemora
Try charm saveas @lost nova

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Try common strategy is to tank one side and pick from weaker flank. But sometime also work by killing the higher attack flank

lost nova
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Ok cool :) I ended up beating that stage and the rest of chapter 12 just now with RNG haha. But will start trying that tactic here on forward

spare crypt
#

I need help please and I can use the crystal

wise roost
#

Hoping to grab some advice, been stuck for quite a while.

clear saddle
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@wise roost Would be better for you to reset gwyneth, ira and silvina to a lower level so that you can increase your belinda's level higher since she is your main damage. But you need to kill the vedan first, so move your main damage top to try and focus him.

honest storm
clear saddle
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@honest storm who does silvina jump?

pale kettle
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Try swapping tasi and Shem so silvina goes for Brutus instead of Arden after tasi thatโ€™s my one suggestion lol

clear saddle
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Shem against grezhul is not exactly favourable.

pale kettle
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Tasi and Shem not Brutus and Shem

clear saddle
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His shemira should be able to tank the silvina anyway. But does your tasi survive until ult?

honest storm
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One moment

pale kettle
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Wait a sec I need help too xD

honest storm
clear saddle
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Grats

honest storm
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xD... Swapped Shem and Tasi ^.^

clear saddle
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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Nice

honest storm
clear saddle
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Swap out tasi for nemora, move her middle back

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and then put shem front probably

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need to charm the enemy ferael

shell hamlet
clear saddle
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@shell hamlet Does vurk hit any of your backline?

shell hamlet
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i can send a recording if youโ€™d like

clear saddle
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I just need to know who ๐Ÿ˜…

shell hamlet
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heโ€™s usually getting spam rooted by arden, but heโ€™d hit lyca if he does hit

clear saddle
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Move arden middle back, make sure you have call on tasi

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do you have blade unlocked yet?

shell hamlet
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not yet, i canโ€™t handle vipers marsh yet lol

clear saddle
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Use eye on shem then

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give it a few tries, it should work

shell hamlet
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that immediately worked.... how do you know man that shit blows my mind

clear saddle
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Experience smug_dolly

honest storm
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Worked @clear saddle

Thanks

shell hamlet
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i have enough duplicate E+ to make like 10 different heroes L+ i just donโ€™t have the fodder tasi

pale kettle
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That second team let me beat all of 15 btw

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@clear saddle

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Hewwo I need halp xD

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Nvm thereโ€™s always tomorrow morning

crimson kraken
broken egret
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@crimson kraken you can try using nara to hook the enemy arden
If you have like M tier 4 boots I thibk you should be able to charm arden before he roots using nem

honest storm
broken egret
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@honest storm can survive at the top there? If not try:
Arden
Brut
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
If that doesn't work try taking out arden and put nem middle back instead of tasi so she can charm enemy nem and in turn nem while charm one of her teammates

honest storm
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Worked @broken egret

final pond
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Need help :( any ideas guys? My team can't even use ulti

ivory breach
broken egret
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@final pond not sure if you gave the wilder backline, but try
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brut /luci
Tasi
Or even just
Nem
Luciua/shem
Rowan
Shem/lucius
Lyca/bel

final pond
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Ok but my wilder only L+, can do?

broken egret
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@final pond ye wilder ascension does not matter much I think

final pond
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Ok ty shifu

violet temple
#

Hey guys. So does anyone know the best line up to use for wrizz fight? Im lvl 266. My best is 184 million damage on him

clear saddle
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Lorsan Belinda Rowan Rosa Twins is probably one of the best right now

median oriole
still oar
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Try
Estrilda
Luc
Rowan
Ros/belinda
Belinda/Rosa
Call Maybe on Rosa and belinda has eye or blade. @median oriole

median oriole
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ok, I'll try that thanks

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new personal best of 7.6mil thanks!

still oar
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๐Ÿ‘

strange plaza
olive thorn
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@median oriole do u have any tries still able?

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Next time try with silv instead of estrilda

median oriole
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I don't. but okay I'll try that next time thanks

olive thorn
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If I renember well at early game tricks, silv stay behind soren after ult so she can tank the charms

median oriole
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ah ok, that makes sense

stray pine
broken egret
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@stray pine i feel like your damage output is gonna be rather low with only lyca doing damage, but i might be wrong.
also swap nem and lyca position for sure, so new can charm arden easier and he can root his own team
i also feel like estr cant really survive at the bottom vs brut+sav or can she?

stray pine
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Estril survive longer than Lucius but will try switch Nem and Lyca

strange mortar
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Can anyone suggest what heroes I should really focus on or how to go about leveling which ones up? Right now Iโ€™m only leveling up Shemira to try to get her to 141

rustic blade
deep magnet
strange meteor
silk ingot
clear saddle
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@silk ingot Mehira instead of khasos maybe?

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@strange meteor They are probably dying because they are the lowest ascension out of all, so they die fairly quickly. Might be safer behind lucius?

onyx basin
clear saddle
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@onyx basin what i used, not sure how applicable it is for you though

onyx basin
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Nice lyca damage wow i can get farael and ill try thanks @clear saddle

clear saddle
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@onyx basin That's most likely because shemira tanks the banishes, your M+ one won't cut it im afraid, but you might be able to slot a thoran merc in there somewhere maybe

onyx basin
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@clear saddle i have thoran merc rn where do i put him?

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Shem gets banished way too much tho she cant keep up by the time her ult is ready, the rest of the team is dead or almost

clear saddle
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nevermind

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i didnt use brutus, sorry

onyx basin
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I can replace him no prob it just needs to work

clear saddle
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I think feraels' fear was pretty crucial in stopping the tasi's from perma-banishing

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It's pretty rng with thoran though, you need them all to be clumped up and have him ult and kill them all

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Also, he needs his sig to be good...

iron kelp
ivory breach
clear saddle
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@iron kelp setup looks ok, what artifacts are you running? and does your lyca have good equipment?

iron kelp
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Shem blade. Tasi call. Chalice brutus eye lyca drape arden

silk ingot
clear saddle
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@silk ingot Take out athalia for lyca, move your saveas bottom. Also, keep levelling him as much as possible ๐Ÿ™‚

iron kelp
silk ingot
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Lyca? I don't have lyca

clear saddle
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@silk ingot Sorry, meant arden

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Not sure why i typed lyca ๐Ÿ˜…

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@iron kelp Man, your lyca luck isnt great. But she is quite gear dependant since she is usually used as a dodge tank. It would be ideal to upgrade at least the weapon and boots to 5* if you want her to dodge properly

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and also strengthen them when you get the chance

iron kelp
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I can upgrade her equip. Tomorrow im doing 60 faction scroll pulls for wilders. I just need 1 mor of her to make L+

clear saddle
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If you can upgrade her equip as high as possible (the correct factioned ones) she will become a great dodge tank

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and you could use her frontline instead of shem for certain instances, and this one could potentially be one

onyx basin
clear saddle
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Oh damn, congrats!

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I'm sure that'll be useful for others who need it later too

onyx basin
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I was this close 2-3 times but finally

honest storm
clear saddle
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@honest storm Move your shemira frontline instead of lyca. You have tasi?

honest storm
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Yes I do @clear saddle

clear saddle
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Replace nemora with her

honest storm
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Worked... LOL ๐Ÿ˜„ Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

deep magnet
#

Anyone can help me with 13-40, my screen are a little up in chat

honest storm
clear saddle
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run something like

Arden/Shem
Lyca
Shem/Arden
Brutus
Tasi

honest storm
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Shemira isnยดt able to send out her ulti... Too sad

clear saddle
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Does your arden die instantly?

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Because you need him to survive

vagrant goblet
honest storm
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Yep he dies quite fast @clear saddle

clear saddle
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@honest storm Put him middle back then maybe

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@vagrant goblet What artifacts are you using on each hero?

plush gate
sacred badge
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@plush gate please try:

  1. Brutus
  2. Shemira
  3. Lyca
  4. Tasi
  5. Rowan (Rowan should be behind Shemira).

Try and see how it goes.

broken egret
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@plush gate if that one doesnt work, try taking out rowan and putting nem in

plush gate
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Iโ€™ll try both of those thank you! @broken egret @sacred badge

iron kelp
supple pelican
pale kettle
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LB is much better here

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You want to get estrilda and belinda

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signature items: first bel, lucius

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you pretty much got both lb and gb which is not that good but since you have no wilder team you def. go for lb

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Lucius Estrilda Fawkes Rowan Belinda

thorny crystal
pale kettle
#

have u tried shem not facing kaz since she counters her?

thorny crystal
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Yep dies in 2 secs anyways

pale kettle
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not if you CC that lyca

thorny crystal
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Cc?

pale kettle
#

crowd control

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try athalia middle backline and swap your frontline

thorny crystal
#

Oki

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Oof

oak gate
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(restarted 2-3 days ago, i kept almost the same comp as before )

limber slate
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I am all in atm on the shamira hard carry and wondering if I should feed into my supports (tasi, rowan) to bump them up into L/L+ or should I go for the belinda ascended
If I go for the support I can ascend a mauler soon to get my 4th ascended or M+
Just not sure how much of a buff it is to go from epic+ to legendary

pale rover
lone meteor
#

14-16. Seems like Saveas is falling of pretty hard ... Any ideas how to replace him?

opal gulch
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@lone meteor have u been building shem up?

lone meteor
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@opal gulch yeah but all I got is two copies from lab shop ... Never pulled her

opal gulch
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@lone meteor u should have 4 copies of her by now right? from PoT and campaign. and since u bought 2 thats 2+2 meaning 4. if yes make M+ shemira she can carry u

ember bane
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@clear saddle in 23-24 Athalia always survive 75% health

lone meteor
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@opal gulch unfortunately I don't have both yet. Campaign shemira is reward of chapter 15 and I couldn't finish the Divine realm on pot yet... So I only have two

opal gulch
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@lone meteor oh i see. do u mind showing me all of ur heroes? thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

lone meteor
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@opal gulch yes sure. Should I just post them into the chat here ?

opal gulch
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@lone meteor yup posting it here is fine

opal gulch
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@lone meteor u can go for belinda carry for now. make L+ hogan and use him to feed belinda

lone meteor
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I'll have to get another tank so

pallid lake
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@ember bane she does that sometimes

onyx basin
pallid lake
uneven pendant
#

Stuck on 14-16 myself

rare karma
broken egret
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@rare karma try using:
Lyca
kaz
tasi
estrilda
arden

rare karma
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Alright cheers

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ALMOST ๐Ÿ˜‚ the back 3 had little hp

spring badge
#

What should i use ?

copper urchin
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Blocked her

pale kettle
#

I beat 20-20 but 20-21 is killing me Iโ€™ve tried so many dif lineups not sure if I can do it without leveling up

graceful hearth
brisk heart
idle oriole
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@brisk heart maybe swap shem and Fawkes

@graceful hearth maybe swap Arden and tasi

graceful hearth
#

Past it at this point. Swapped some levels around. Waiting on gold to get Rowan to 160 (pulled another Rowan for L+)

idle oriole
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ

tall forge
brisk heart
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Doesn't seem to be working. Keep betting bodied still

idle oriole
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@brisk heart I guess u could try wonder trio backline and shem + Lucius front.. If it doesn't work you'll just have to wait for someone more experienced than me to help xd

brisk heart
#

what's Wonder trio backline?

idle oriole
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Oh srry lmao autocorrect.. Meant to say wilder trio @brisk heart

brisk heart
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What's the Wilder trio? Just any old Wilder or is there a specific trio

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Sorry I'm still a noob

idle oriole
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Np but it's generally
Lyca, nemora/tasi and arden

brisk heart
#

Got it

idle oriole
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

brisk heart
#

so I'm going with Lyca, Nemora, and Arden. Any idea what order I should put them in ?

idle oriole
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Nemora at the bottom but rest is up to u

brisk heart
#

Understood

rigid dragon
sly cobalt
pale kettle
#

Does rose follow shem or Brutus

broken egret
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@rigid dragon its a horrible stage, but you can try taking out fawkes and use a nem instead to charm the other fereal that isn't rooted by arden

spare crypt
#

help me please...

pale kettle
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@spare crypt try swapping your celestial for Brutus and that desert girl instead of turtle dude ๐Ÿ˜‚I forgot the names sorry

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And if you can get her to 120 itโ€™ll help

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Iโ€™m not @clear saddle so I donโ€™t have the best advice, but I hope it helps

rigid dragon
pale kettle
#

I need halp

atomic plover
#

guys, is Isabella better than Vurk???

pale kettle
#

Heโ€™s

willow eagle
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@pale kettle whats going on? and @atomic plover it really depends but overall I would say they both serve the same purpose in their specific faction (burst damage)

pale kettle
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What do you mean? Both my main and mini are stuck

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Scroll up if you donโ€™t know what Iโ€™m talking about

willow eagle
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@pale kettle for 7-8 try rigby-lyca-nemora-eironn-belinda

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and for 16-36 try shemira -brutus -nemora -fawkes -belinda, you may need to get a second tank in there to replace shemira or belinda however, lets see if this works first

rare karma
pale kettle
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@willow eagle thanks

broken egret
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@pale kettle if that doesn't work use:
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi
Force the silv dash to tasi so she can dash away after the first hit and silv dienst kill anyone

pale kettle
#

K thanks

wind warren
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@rare karma would swap Shemira and Kaz, given factional advantages. Also if nemora isn't living to ult maybe swap her for Rosaline.
Not sure if it'll work but no harm in trying ๐Ÿคท

broken egret
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@rare karma try swapping shem and Kaz position and using either tasi or Aden in the place of nem

pale kettle
#

I beat 7-8 thanks kita

wind warren
rigid dragon
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thx bois

pale kettle
willow eagle
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@pale kettle Glad it worked! tell me how the other one goes!

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@pale kettle nara all THE WAY!! she is the best hero in game next to athalia due to her nature and kill potential oh sorry - and also i would say wait instead of using thse two LEG+ as fodder as they are ascended heros, if you are very desperate and want to ascend now - i would say kelthur is the better choice

broken egret
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@wind warren try:
Lyca/nem
Thoran/brut
Tasi
Shem
Arden
If you don't have lyca use the nem instead. For thoran VS brut just try and see what does better

wind warren
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Will try, thanks

pale kettle
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@willow eagle oh whoops the fodder lego+ was cut off ๐Ÿ˜‚ yeah Nara it is! Thanks by the way!!

wind warren
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I still get destroyed, tough level ๐Ÿ˜” will just keep leveling up I suppose

spare crypt
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@broken egret can you help me please (I can use the crystal)

broken egret
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@wind warren do you have the call on tasi in that lineup?

broken egret
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@spare crypt put arden in Crystal and use him for raine

wind warren
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1 star call on tasi, grace on shemira, eye on arden (i didn't know who else to put it on), drape on thoran
Perhaps eye should go on Shemira but i thought she's more ability dmg?

broken egret
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@wind warren ye I would say call on tasi indeed. Guessing that meant you don't have lyca?

rare karma
#

My team keeps targeting Numisus totem...

broken egret
#

@wind warren are you at least able to kill the vedan before he ults if arden roots him?

spare crypt
#

OK thanks I win

wind warren
#

I do have lyca but she's elite only,
I don't seem to no

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Everything dies too fast then Shem get's ko'd by the Niru ult

broken egret
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Ye ascension on the lyca doesn't matter all that much, you just want the speed

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@wind warren using brut or thoran? Also how long is brut invul at your level, does he already have the 8second or still like 3 second?

wind warren
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Thoran, brut dies too fast and the Thoran revive fear seems to do more

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and yes, brutus is 7s immunity

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I legit went from 14-40 to 15-36 without stopping and now this level is impossible ๐Ÿ˜‚

broken egret
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Hmm would expect the 7s to be enough tbh for shem and tasi to almost fully charge ult. Also yes I think eye might do better on shem for you

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@wind warren 1 more quick question does arden ever do a second root, or just die to niru? If so try swapping him to the middle where he might get a second root off

wind warren
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issue with middle is Khasos axes - i will try. I almost had the perfect fight but nemora didn't ult on full mana :(

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arden dies even faster in middle cryingmirael

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actually gets 0 roots off in middle as he gets interupted by the axes

broken egret
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Ur using nem? Who did you take out for her? You can still try him up top as well, who does tasi banish?

wind warren
#

nem instead of lyca, tasi banishes khasos

broken egret
#

If you use lyca instead of nem doesn't tasi banish khasos before he axes?

wind warren
#

you're right, let me try

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other issue is when tasi banishes arden only roots 2

broken egret
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Ye but that's fine at least he doesn't die right? Now you gotta just have good rng I think where he roots vedan and you are able to kill vedan before he starts ulting and kills the entire team and if tasi has call both shem and tasi ulti should he at the same time which should kill most enemies I think

frank atlas
broken egret
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I'd try swapping him with mehira for now

frank atlas
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Hm ok I'll try it

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Should I lvl my sup up or is lvl 81 okay for now @broken egret? Put Arden on resonating crystal,

broken egret
#

81 is fine

pearl basin
#

im thinking of replacing gwen, i can legendary tasi or nemora, which would be better for my team?

rustic blade
mystic basalt
#

@pearl basin why did you legendary gwyneth in the first place

rustic blade
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@pearl basin tasi should be better she is pretty strong with shem + luc combo

pearl basin
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thank

rustic blade
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I often use both tasi and nemora together with smth like Eironn they work well

frank atlas
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I only have 5 lvld, lol

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Yeah, looking for advice on my lineup, if it's optimal for where I'm at, 7-30

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Replaced mehira for Arden but then I started losing and when I swap to meheria won, I swapped back I lose again, but I hear ppl saying Arden stun is good but it doesn't seem to be working with my line up

rustic blade
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its good only if the heores you play against are "weak" to being controlled but arden is very good hero

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can maybe your grez ult

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if you put grez, brutus, Saveas, tasi, arden

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these ppl have a lot of hp so they arent vulnerable to arden that much

frank atlas
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What do you mean by arnt vulnerable to Arden ? I do t have a problem fighting him,

light kite
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@livid cliff You need someone who can survive Saveas dmg, or you need to cc him somehow

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I usually use brutus because he can survive anything, and nemora because she can charm him

whole terrace
silk ingot
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would love help i already tried a lot!

light kite
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@silk ingot The Silvina just starts killing you right? You need to setup a backline so they don't die immediately and have a chance of surviving

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Though, you might just have to wait with where you're at, to get xp

silk ingot
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in 20 battles i nearly did it once like this lol

light kite
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Yeah, that happens. Lucky crits/evades w/e

livid cliff
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@light kite I'll try fawkes

light kite
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Have you tried switching it up so saveas and brutus are at the bottom @silk ingot ? Brutus is hard to get through, Golas is too, but it might be easier?

silk ingot
#

it takes like double the time to kill golas

light kite
#

Something i've done a few times is to put whoever gets jumped by silvina next to saveas, so saveas kills her.

pulsar sandal
#

Any advice on what faction I should use my faction scrolls on?

light kite
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I'd personally focus on lightbearer to get that lucius up

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You can't go wrong with wilders either, though

pulsar sandal
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I was just one more fodder away from mythic lucius if I wanted to feed my Hogan. I was thinking Wilders too though. Thanks for the advice!

sullen prairie
livid cliff
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Nnothing is really working. Lol. Should I try a diff tank instead of lcius or?

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I can get a merc but dont know who I would pick up..

light kite
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@livid cliff Try nemora, and place her directly against saveas. On the same row that is. Then hope she charms him

livid cliff
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No luck even when charmed

light kite
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@livid cliff Not sure then tbh. Perhaps some more lvls or ascensions are necessary

livid cliff
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Have a merc you gesst I should use?

light kite
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@livid cliff perhaps brutus to tank the saveas, or maybe a higher shemira

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@livid cliff you might wanna wait for someone else to give you help too, Im only a little ahead of you, and just speaking from experience

naive crown
rare karma
willow eagle
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Dan try using estrilda brutus shemira nara tasi

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Sorry* estrilda brutus nara shemira tasi

rare karma
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Nara shem tasi on backline?

willow eagle
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Yes from left to right, positions 1 to 5

rare karma
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Nope, Ankhira gets my Shem after 20s

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Plus Tasi gets wiped out instantly @willow eagle

cerulean hamlet
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Maybe, try something like
Rosaline (assuming she follows shem)

  • Shemira
    Belinda
  • Brutus
    Estrilda?

I'd probably run shem + brutus + tasi + lyca + arden myself though ideally arden would be level 141 for that @rare karma

willow eagle
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Try swapping tasi out for nemora then @rare karma see if that makes a difference

cerulean hamlet
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@naive crown
Arden

  • Shemira
    Lyca
  • Lucius/Brutus
    Nemora

You could try that, hope that nemora charms arden so he roots his own team before he roots you. That's what I did for that stage.

naive crown
#

alright

rare karma
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Nope, Nemora gets critted by Khasosโ€™ throwing axe @willow eagle

willow eagle
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Might need to spam it a couple of times - trying to get nemora to charm khasos

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otherwise we can go the opposite and swap nemora with nara

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estrilda brutus nemora shemira nara--- positions 1-5 from left to right. Trying to charm ankhira's cocoons on the enemy team and nara prevents khasos crits on axes

naive crown
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worked first try, thank you @cerulean hamlet

rare karma
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Neither works. Iโ€™ll wait until the Wilder pack activates and use my scrolls ๐Ÿ˜‚

willow eagle
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@rare karma what has been the best "try" so far against that team?

rare karma
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Erm... likely one with Kaz in

willow eagle
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If you had a team that killed atleast 2 heros then you can win - with a little bit of RNG. From there it may be a matter of swapping 1 or 2 heros out on your own to help boost some synergy

rare karma
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Thinking about it, the enemy are mostly maulers, so surely my best lightbringers would work?

willow eagle
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try using belinda instead of shemira dan, maybe she can get a fat ult in and one shot some maulers

rare karma
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Nope. Ankhira gets charmed then my Nemora dies???

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No ults can be used aside from Brutusโ€™

willow eagle
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You might need lyca for the haste against that team, im curious let see

rare karma
#

Instead of who?

willow eagle
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Try Kaz Brutus nemora tasi shemira - nemora charms golus or ankhira and tasi should banish khasos or brutus -- or kaz brutus nemora lyca shemira for the haste

rare karma
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Ok

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Nope, Golus is the only one that dies

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The rest have 1-50% hp left

sweet pasture
willow eagle
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thats actually not bad! if you can get most heros to half or lower with 1 dead then with some tries and minor adjustments you can win that stage!

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@sweet pasture have you tried swapping arden for nemora? and shemira with lucius?

sweet pasture
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Lucius dies super fast to Belinda

willow eagle
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i would keep brutus frontline against kaz and belinda and at best try lucius frontline against estrilda

rare karma
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Ugh, I die to Brutus most times due to his shield

sweet pasture
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Who do I take out for Lucius

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Tasi gets 1 hit without faction bonus

willow eagle
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@sweet pasture try lucius brutus nemora lyca tasi in that order from left to right for positions 1-5. How does that work?

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@rare karma when brutus gets his shield up - how does everything else look for the enemy team?

sweet pasture
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How do I kill anyone with that line up?

sly cobalt
rare karma
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@willow eagle Ankhira has ~20% hp, Khasos has 50%, and Brutus has 10%, the rest are dead

willow eagle
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and you are using which of the two formations i sent you?

sly cobalt
#

For both wrizz and Soren please?

rare karma
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The Tasi one

willow eagle
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@sweet pasture try lyca brutus nemora shemira tasi then, this will all depend on lyca's rng for dodge for this comp to work.

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@rare karma try swapping kaz and brutus - very small changes to see if we can tweak and make some changes

sweet pasture
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Ill just use a tasi merc

rare karma
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So close, if Shemโ€™s ult would have activated I wouldve done it

sweet pasture
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Doesnโ€™t seem possible outside of insane rng

willow eagle
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with some luck you should be able to beat that dan.

rare karma
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Wait, Khasos regens hp?

willow eagle
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yes, he has life-leech as one of his skills and it is increased per mauler on the field

rare karma
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And Brutus put his shield up twice?

willow eagle
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That shouldn't be possible, unless this was in labyrinth using a specific relic.

rare karma
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Must have been a graphical glitch then. I can get Golus Brutus and Khasos to 10% hp but no less

willow eagle
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I believe you can do it! you are very close, closer than you were before!

rare karma
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Wtf? I almost had it but Brutus broke out of his tasi sleep...

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DONE IT!

willow eagle
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Congrats!! Glad you passed it ๐Ÿ˜„

sullen prairie
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:(

sharp flame
silk ingot
willow eagle
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@silk ingot athalia-brutus-saveas-mehira-lucius try that from left to right - positions 1 to 5

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@sharp flame try Lucius brutus belinda rowan saveas - left to right - positions 1 to 5 in that order

silk ingot
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@willow eagle i don't quite understand you mean athalia then Brutus front saveas bakc middle and mehira front? Lucius back?

sharp flame
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@willow eagle was able to kill the Estrilda only

willow eagle
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Athalia 1 brutus 2 Saveas 3 Mehira 4 and Lucius 5 @silk ingot

tall forge
willow eagle
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@sharp flame how about the health pools of the other enemies? how is that looking with that formation

silk ingot
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Well athalia jumps then into nothing :(

sharp flame
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@@willow eagle Estrilda dead, bloodsnarf 50%

silk ingot
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Silvana jumps before athalia reaches here

sharp flame
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@willow eagle the slow from morvus is what kills me tbh

willow eagle
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@silk ingot Im trying to have your athalia jump the brutus and then force all your enemy team into a tunnel infront of your brutus

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Frontline Athalia - brutus Backline Saveas - Mehira - Lucius

topaz tangle
silk ingot
willow eagle
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yes, try that pacis

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@sharp flame try brutus lucius belinda rowan saveas - left to right - positions 1 to 5 in that order lets see if this makes a small difference

sharp flame
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@willow eagleit was worse

willow eagle
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Could you post your stage and hero box again? So i can get a closer analysis

sharp flame
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I'll guess I'll AFK until 140 everyone and try again with better rnge

wicked pelican
proud lodge
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What's the best lineup I can make with these?

rare karma
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Brutus and Isabella seem to deal the most Dmg

sweet pasture
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@rare karma nemora tasi Arden back lyca Shem front

willow eagle
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@sharp flame try brutus gorvo saveas tasi nemora - if someone isnt doing anything try replacing them with arden

sharp flame
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@willow eagle thanks I'll try

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Wow, I killed 3 of them a bit of RNG and might work

willow eagle
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Excellent! @sharp flame let me know how that works with a couple of tries and RNG!

proud lodge
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Hey kita

rare karma
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@sweet pasture Nope. Not even a scratch on them.

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@willow eagle , got any advice? ๐Ÿ˜‚

humble stream
sharp flame
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@Kita#1337 also, is Mehira worth buying?

still oar
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Try
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Ir
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
@astral remnant

astral remnant
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@still oar I'll test them a few times each give me a minute to see how it goes.

still oar
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๐Ÿ‘

willow eagle
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@sharp flame mehira is good to get but not a nessecity

astral remnant
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I don't have athalia,But yea I think I'll just need to level a few more times and try to get my 180 crystal @still oar

still oar
astral remnant
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@still oar I'll give it a shot

still oar
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GL ๐Ÿ‘

sweet pasture
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Thatโ€™s how I beat it @rare karma

silk ingot
jovial jolt
sage sage
split bolt
rare karma
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Anyone?

cerulean hamlet
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@rare karma Try Lyca over Kaz and Shemira frontline, probably either swap Nemora for arden or try have her charm Khasos

rare karma
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Nope. My team gets annihalated @cerulean hamlet

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Any other advice?

coral frigate
cerulean hamlet
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Was that with Arden or Nemora?
That stage to me looks Arden favored actually, but ideally getting 1 more level 141 would be pretty useful for you for arden root + lyca energy.
Probs something like:
Arden

  • Brutus
    Lyca
  • Shemira
    Tasi
    @rare karma Wilder support is very reliant on CCing the right targets o often need a lot of retries
rare karma
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Both, but ill try again

cerulean hamlet
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@coral frigate Swap Lucius for Lyca
Arden

  • Brutus
    Lyca
  • Shemira
    Nemora
    Hope that nemora charms arden so he roots his team and that your arden roots nem or so
coral frigate
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omg it worked. i tried to use arden at bottom to stun that annoying arden but using nemora instead worked great thx

rare karma
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Nope, I get recked by the Khasos and Isabella

cerulean hamlet
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Mh, honestly. Then either just keep trying, or get arden to 141 so he roots 3, there isn't really anything I can see otherwise for that :/

rare karma
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Ill wait for the wilder scroll pack then

split bolt
coral frigate
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@cerulean hamlet also do you think i should spend my elemental scrolls on wilder or what? based on seeing my team (i hvae 16)

cerulean hamlet
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Yes, generally wilders are recommended due to their pool + utility, at least until you have the 3 (Tasi + Lyca + Nemora, roughly that order of priority if possible) ascended or at least 2 of them.

coral frigate
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thx'

cerulean hamlet
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@split bolt Make sure Silvina jumps on Tasi, then maybe swap lucius for Brutus and possibly Saveas though your Sav isn't overleveled so maybe shem is better than Sav.

split bolt
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I have 5 days till I get shem to l+. Should I reset to saveas for now?

cerulean hamlet
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If you're able to get Sav L+ in a reasonable timeframe probably, but since you're that close to L+ shem might as well keep focusing shem.

rustic blade
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@split bolt you have got so far good heroes

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once arden out of play Eironn is gonna be rly strong substitution, much better than arden

split bolt
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Cannot make Silvina focus tasi. She goes for Arden. Also Iโ€™m guessing I should spend all faction scrolls on wilders right?

cerulean hamlet
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Silvina goes for the enemy target with the lowest defense (prioritizing mages) so just swap gear around until arden has more than Tasi should work.

torpid pelican
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@split bolt
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Tasi

split bolt
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Perfect! Thanks. Iโ€™ll try. Thank you all

rustic blade
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@split bolt try what @torpid pelican said and if doesnt work try Brut, Shem; Tasi, Luca, Eironn

astral remnant
rustic blade
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maybe Eironn to replace arden

astral remnant
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I'll see if anyone wants to lend me an eironn

clear saddle
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@astral remnant The setup i used to beat it was a lyca frontline against ogi, Brutus front. Arden behind lyca, Shem middle and Tasi bottom

astral remnant
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I'll test that,What was your crystal? @clear saddle

clear saddle
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161 I believe

mossy kelp
#

Can
someone help me with 17-24 pls...

cerulean hamlet
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@mossy kelp What's the enemy comp + what heroes do you have?

cerulean hamlet
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Lyca

  • Lucius
    Nemora
  • Belinda
    Rosaline
    @mossy kelp Maybe Brutus over lucius but having Nemora charming Ferael will be key so try move gear around so that nemora doesn't have the lowest defense of the mages.
mossy kelp
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I'll try real quick thanks

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My nemora still dies to the silvinq

cerulean hamlet
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You have to try move gear around so another mage (probably rosaline) has lower defense, silv jumps on the one with lowest defense after all

mossy kelp
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Did it but now she doesn't do the thing where she complete interrupts someone ๐Ÿ˜•

cerulean hamlet
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You mean she doesn't charm? She should still do it so might take some RNG to get right targeting/not getting interrupted

mossy kelp
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Oh ok thank you so much ๐Ÿ™‚

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I did it thank you!

sweet pasture
foggy sinew
cerulean hamlet
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@foggy sinew Shemira will be the way to go, though in the future ask general questions in #classic-questions :)

This channel is mostly for hero lineups.

sweet pasture
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anyone got a 16-40 solution?

cerulean hamlet
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Generally against that comp I used:
Arden

  • Shemira
    Lyca
  • Brutus
    Nemora

or the same one as you're using now. Either should work but will both take a bit of RNG

sweet pasture
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i tried it maybe 100 times but ill keep going

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i wanna beat it while the faction scrolls are wilder

cerulean hamlet
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Mh, I think there's one variation more I've used against that comp which was
Shemira

  • Lyca
    Tasi
  • Brutus
    Nemora

And then pray for Shem + Tasi ult

sweet pasture
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k ill try that one some

violet temple
#

Hey does anyone know the best lineup for the evil nemora fight? Im lvl 267 and my usual is 43 candies per fight

sweet pasture
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43 is fine

cerulean hamlet
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44 is max, the hardest part of the fight is killing the first 4 dreafs so optimal comp is generally Shemira + Rosa + Rowan + 2 XX that are whatever that help you clear those out in the first 10 sec. I personally use Lyca + Estrilda but I've seen Estrilda + Belinda/Twins or so too work @violet temple

violet temple
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Thanks fish. I have been using shem rowan Belinda estrilda and raine

cerulean hamlet
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Hm, you probably want to replace raine in that comp as her ult doesn't really work past the first wave and comes out too late to help there (summoned minions don't give the ult benefit regen)

sweet pasture
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who would the best merc be to use for 16-40 @cerulean hamlet

cerulean hamlet
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An Ascended shemira if she'd be stronger than yours, otherwise brutus or tasi

shell hamlet
toxic solstice
strong hazel
toxic solstice
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I think at this stage of the campaign, Belinda can replace Saveas as your main hard carry. Use Belinda Rowan Lucius as your core. You can probably add Estrilda too I guess since you need a 2nd front line with Lucius and it will give you the 4-buff. Then as 5th you can rotate betwen Raine, Nemora, or Brutus when needed (if your frontline gets melted in 1s). You're more or less at the point where I had to stop using Saveas. then I had to stop using Belinda around stage 14 or 15 as Shemira become more valuable as main carry. I wanted to use something else sometimes, but I couldnt, on all my account, and for my friends too, that's what workd the best: Main carry Saveas till stage 8 more or less, then Belinda till stage 14 more or less, then Shemira. And right now at the stage 20-53 Shemira is still the most valuable hard carry

deep ivy
toxic solstice
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If you switch positions of Belinda and Golus, is there a way you can melt Vedan before he ults ?

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And I would probably use Gwyneth or Thane or Gemini or Orthros or Shemira instead of Golus, in all situations I guess. I feel like these 5 are far superior to Golus, even if he's Legendary atm. Others will brings way more to the table

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Use Belinda Rowan Lucius as core, then switch in/out Hogan Orthros Gwyneth Thane Shemira Gemini and see what works best

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In stages like that, I have 2 strategies, 1 is melting the Vedan before he ults, the other is ignoring Vedan by tanking it, and breaching the other side of the board with my dps heroes. But at the stage you're at, I guess breaching the top side isn't an option ? Best bet is to try to melt the Vedan. Anyway, try to melt the other side and breaching, or try to melt the Vedan

graceful mountain
strong hazel
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@toxic solstice belinda is still cap at 120 for now till i get one more copy of her, was using her but have been rotating my line up, do you think it will work?

I feel i have been pushing quite far ahead on my server, currently top 50 on server 362 not sure if changing her will help push with the LB formation bonus. I feel im lacking xp/fodders atm

toxic solstice
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Your other heroes are capped at 120 too (except Lucius). That's why I feel like Belinda will do more work than Saveas at this point

flat gyro
#

Out of the ones with the red upgrades possible, who is the most useful to level up their signature item?

woven nimbus
#

Lucius

flat gyro
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My main line is Shem and luci/brut front and nemora Fawkes Belinda back line.

Thank you rytlockie ๐Ÿ™‚

proud lodge
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Is the top row my best lineup?

ashen schooner
#

You could probably exchange one of your tanks (Skreg probably) or Morvus for another damage dealer or support hero.

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Vurk. Gwyneth. Safiya. Possibly Arden.

left patrol
#

@proud lodge I personally would go luc and skreg front with vurk morvus and Belinda back

sharp hornet
left patrol
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you're gonna want to swap out morvus asap though

cerulean hamlet
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@sharp hornet Eironn would be quite useful for that stage

sharp hornet
#

@cerulean hamlet swapping out for who?

cerulean hamlet
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I'd say Kaz, esp considering how Kaz is also a merc.

toxic pagoda
#

I really like belinda

cerulean hamlet
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You're pretty much set for standard meta once you get shem some more levels @toxic pagoda
Shemira + Brutus/Lucius + Tasi + Lyca + Nemora/Arden

toxic pagoda
#

Yay!!

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Whatโ€™s level should shem be?

cerulean hamlet
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As high as your crystal allows her to be generally

toxic pagoda
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Im going to reset sav

still oar
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161+ if you're willing to reset everyone else to 140 you can 161 him
Maybe

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Her*

toxic pagoda
#

Is it worth it ?

pale kettle
#

I need help

vital cave
still oar
#

I do think so. Her 161 skills is the one that make her powerful @toxic pagoda

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Try
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi/nemora
Start the battle with Arden rooting Arden and kaz
Or
Arden
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Same deal. Arden roots Arden
@pale kettle

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It helps if I can see the relics and your heroes energy. Blindly try
Tasi

lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Belinda.
Use slumber to start the battle and Rowan's coins to cc Athalia. With luc's shield and shemira's ult you should be able to rng I hope @vital cave

slender wedge
vital cave
still oar
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Start the battle by charming ferael. Move nemora to middle and swap tasi with Arden. Rng a bit @slender wedge

violet temple
#

What is the best lineup to use on the soren fight? Its always been a bit of a tough one for me

still oar
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You have a good set @vital cave. Maybe the not good one is the aegis of preservation. They do not stack. Book of war and I forgot the name, the relic that cut cc time, also do no stack.

With that line up above you should be able to rng. If failed don't be afraid to use tears. You get 3 every week so use them moderately isn't bad

violet temple
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Thank you i appreciate it

vital cave
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@still oar ok, thanks again!

glad nimbus
pale rover
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@glad nimbus If you plan to build Shemira and use her by 161, start buying her exclusively.

clear saddle
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@glad nimbus This belongs more in #classic-questions but shemira is good for beginners as you need to start buying her so that she becomes usable once saveas falls off

glad nimbus
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idk what i'm even building tbh...im just barely getting through the chapters

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im on 5-40 right now

opal ledge
#

I can make Hogan L+ right now, ugh.. I don't really want to. Should I?

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I think I can anyways?

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I've been holding off on any ascends trying to get another lucius for e+

paper idol
sly shadow
harsh frost
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@paper idol yes do it

low zephyr
fierce kayak
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@low zephyr you can reset sav and make shemira 180. Also.. always post your stage and roster as well

low zephyr
#

@fierce kayak Oh, i went with
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
Brutus
Saveas
Hmm, interesting, so you're saying to just fodder sav?

torpid pelican
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@low zephyr lol without a doubt feed sav to brutus the trade off is worth it. You can always make a new sav but brutus is more sustainable and useful.

low zephyr
tribal phoenix
low zephyr
#

True. I've been trying to build another one anyway. Aight thanks

tall forge
torpid pelican
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@low zephyr
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Arden

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@tall forge that should go into the questions Chanel

tall forge
#

So is this channel for campaign line up?

torpid pelican
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@tribal phoenix lel.
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca
Shem
Arden

tall forge
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If thatโ€™s the case, what should I do here? I canโ€™t seem to pass this

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The hero on the enemy team at the top does way too much damage and is too tanky

torpid pelican
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@tall forge yeah because sav is ultra buf for no reason lol
Try
Arden
Lyca
Shem/belinda
Brutus
Sav

tall forge
#

People told me to rush sav first xd thatโ€™s why, ty Iโ€™ll try this though ๐Ÿ™‚

torpid pelican
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@tall forge he becomes obsolete pretty fast. Arden honestly lasts so much longer its ridiculous

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@paper idol ascended NEmoraaa

tall forge
#

So should I level up Arden, Brutus or save up till I get one more copy of Saveas for legendary?

#

@torpid pelican

torpid pelican
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How far are u from 45k lab coins????

tall forge
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Pretty far, Iโ€™m at 10k rn but I bought Shem so

torpid pelican
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Alright so when u have enough for that second shem bring her straight to legendary and max her out

tall forge
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Iโ€™ll be able to get her to legendary+ too so thatโ€™s good

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Already have 2 fodder elite+ grave

ivory breach
torpid pelican
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The way I got theough the levels your on is maxing Belinda and brutus. Love belinda is charged up she wrecks most of the enemy

tall forge
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Hmm Iโ€™ll see. Ty again @torpid pelican

torpid pelican
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@ivory breach have you tried belinda instead of sav??

ivory breach
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problem here is i get hogan smashed to the ground real quick, then lucius doesnt even charge in time for ulti also and everyone dies, with belinda i got the same result

torpid pelican
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Oh f^&> the level difference wont work. Switch sav and rosa for Belinda dn Lyca. Tell me how thar goes down

untold rivet
torpid pelican
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@untold rivet your tank game is ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

ivory breach
#

yea was better, all survived couldnt get it tho, but so much better

torpid pelican
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@ivory breach how Mny enemies died

untold rivet
#

I know they suck.... That is why I am asking for some help. As I siad though I was on like 13-30 tonight when I started mt run, this is 14-39

ivory breach
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none but like 3 really low

torpid pelican
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@untold rivet long shot
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Doubt itll work but yolo

untold rivet
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Will try it

torpid pelican
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@ivory breach flip flop it. Switch Belinda and nem then switch lucius and hogan

untold rivet
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That did worse than my main hitters, lol

ivory breach
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yea doing it atm

torpid pelican
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untold rivet
torpid pelican
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U can make him legendary. Do it

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Make shem mythic and max her level out

untold rivet
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Never mind I just saw her rare picture

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I don't have the stuff to make Shem M+

torpid pelican
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U just need her at mythic

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Max her level out. And have brutus at legendary that'll solve the tank issue

ivory breach
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@untold rivet
Nemora
Shem
Rosa
Brutus
Belinda.
Trump that once ur done adjusting