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finite bramble
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Against hogan ofc

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But luci in front too

nocturne furnace
naive summit
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Hogan just two shot my shemira ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Actually nvm i passed it, i put in nemora instead of shemira lol got them confused. Thank you!

finite bramble
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@naive summit focus on getting shemira ascend on that early levels, and put her as a tank, youll pass all like np

nocturne furnace
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thank you @pale kettle it worked

finite bramble
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Any help for me?

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@pale kettle ty, but obviously no help for me :(

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Need only 5k of dust for 220+ levels

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Well, i need it for crystal 200 :)

brittle maple
finite bramble
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Got him mythic+ yesterday, from legendary...

naive summit
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Is arden that good? Why does everyone use him?

fallen knot
naive summit
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When i use him he does little damage

mellow nova
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hes not used for damage, hes used for 141+ triple root

finite bramble
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Arden is best cc hero, he does not do any damage, but disable, best on 180 with 3 roots

naive summit
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I see

finite bramble
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Sorry, its 3 roots on 141

fallen knot
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No? Okay.

nimble sage
turbid totem
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maybe swap estrilda with a tankier character, saveas really chips away anyone's health

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maybe thoran? so after he dies to saveas he comes back

burnt vault
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Been stuck on 8-36 and floor 105 for a while now, any suggestions on making progress?

restive mauve
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@oak drum swap out belinda for now and use tasi/arden.

Try
Nemora
--ulmus
Miraeal
--brutus
Arden/tasi.

Maybe swap nemora to bottom

nimble sage
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does Dura`s Grace work well on Hogan?

restive mauve
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@honest storm i rarely used nemora. Instead i had more success with tasi. Try to play around a bit with formation, maybe brutus top to tank both assassin's while shem shreds hogan

nimble sage
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or should I put it on someone else? I use Silvana, Hogan, Estrilda, Arden, and Belinda.

earnest plank
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Looking for a wrizz and soren team. Right now i run Shemira, rowan, belinda, rosaline, and lucuis for wrizz. I run nemora, baden, grezhul, lucius, shemira for soren. Any input would be mich appreciated

thick cypress
fresh wagon
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ye reset ur lucius to 161 and put all xp into shem

thick cypress
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i donโ€™t have the dust for it @fresh wagon

fresh wagon
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even if u keep nemoira lucius or both below 160? shem is crazy carry

woven kiln
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New player what should I focus?

oak drum
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@restive mauve it is close with this lineup! Some levels and RNG will do it. Thank you! I will afk now and then get through it

untold ginkgo
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im stuck at 9-4, any ideas?

boreal kestrel
pale kettle
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Still no answer after 3 days ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Except @fierce kayak who told me to repost yesterday

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle what's your query buddy?

pale kettle
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I posted it,,,,

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;-; 3 days ago

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle my dear friend. Repost everything again. No one will dig back and see the old post. We are not official customer service... we won't know which post is answered which are not ๐Ÿ˜‚

sullen meadow
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I'd recommend
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Lyca (or thane optional)
I'm most likely sure you need to rely on luck though!

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@boreal kestrel

boreal kestrel
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Thanks thunder, tried that a few times with no success

sullen meadow
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Dang looks like it's a job for mercs wish the best of luck

boreal kestrel
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It's kinda cap cuz I can barely get a ult off. And ya I'll need to wait till sunday to give it a try with merc again

sullen meadow
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On my stage my tasi wont ult quick enough

boreal kestrel
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That or she almost has ult and she leeroy Jenkins in the middle of 3 guys

covert jewel
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Arden is killing me, use Nara to pull him and Brutus almost gets him, but then he Ults every time!

fierce kayak
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@covert jewel try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

hollow dawn
remote otter
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I have guarantee faction pull what should I aim for?

golden spade
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Is vurk really worth even getting up? I was gonna do Numisu up to L+ but I can get vurk to M soon if Iโ€™m just patient. I just... I hate vurk.

covert jewel
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@fierce kayak I see the potential, if they were a bit higher. Iโ€™ll play RNG for a bit, if not Iโ€™ll try my mercs

fierce kayak
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@covert jewel yup.. need rng. Tough stage. G luck

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@golden spade you can hold on and it's better to spend fodders on heroes that you have copies to make them A. He does pretty good damage late game.

But if you already have top 5A.. then up to you if you don't wanna wait. Vurk is decent if you ask me.

pale kettle
naive summit
pale kettle
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Do you have eye of dura

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@naive summit

orchid egret
clear saddle
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@orchid egret use tasi instead of nemora

orchid egret
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And which arti on who? @clear saddle

clear saddle
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call tasi, eye arden, grace lyca, blade shem, drape brutus

orchid egret
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@clear saddle thanks ill give it a try

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@clear saddle it worked, thx buddy

clear saddle
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๐Ÿ‘

pale kettle
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And for me ?

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Okay....

naive summit
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@pale kettle no sorry i dont have duras eye yet

pale kettle
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@naive summit isabella + eye of dura = monster

graceful bay
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I may be forced to sit on this one until i have more xp

pale kettle
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Sometimes all you need to pass on a level is to wait for the lvup

naive summit
unkempt smelt
clear saddle
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@cyan pike Move your saveas to the bottom and maybe swap warek and shems position

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You need to kill the niru first

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@unkempt smelt can you show all your heroes next time along with the enemy lineup? thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

orchid egret
clear saddle
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@unkempt smelt Who gets coffined and banished?

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@orchid egret I beat that stage by swapping tasi and shem, but you probably tried that already. What artifacts do you run?

unkempt smelt
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Isabella gets coffined, havent been able to get a banish off but I'm aiming for her to banish either Belinda or one of the front line

orchid egret
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call tasi, eye arden, grace lyca, blade shem, drape brutus

clear saddle
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@unkempt smelt you could run lyca tasi nemora(Arden instead if you have one) backline

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@orchid egret looks right. just need more rng i guess

orchid egret
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Okay thx

unkempt smelt
clear saddle
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oh nevermind, congrats ๐Ÿ˜›

robust forum
unkempt smelt
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Tasi somehow got her ult and thane+brutus decided to clean house ๐Ÿ™„

clear saddle
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@robust forum do you have an estrilda laying around anywhere?

robust forum
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@clear saddle Ive got an E+ I can throw in the crystal?

clear saddle
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@robust forum Do you also have good M boots for her?

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Because what you can do against frontline silvina, is use estrilda who will cancel her initial jump damage

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then you can use arden since he won't get 1 shot

graceful bay
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Yay, I managed to beat 19-38 and close the whole chapter afterwards, turns out waiting for more xp wasn't needed after all

sterile cipher
robust forum
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@clear saddle Okay, ill try that, thanks

clear saddle
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@sterile cipher Can you post the enemy lineup?

sterile cipher
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Thats not my usual lineup, I've been playing with things to see how I fare ๐Ÿ™‚

robust forum
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@clear saddle No luck with Estrilda, sheโ€™s still jumping to Arden

clear saddle
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You need good boots on her + Lyca haste

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But another alternative could be:

Nemora
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

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need your nemora to charm enemy nemora who will charm her own arden

slow kiln
clear saddle
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Tasi instead of nemora should be fine, just need your arden to root him

idle oriole
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@sterile cipher maybe replace hendrik with Hogan and put Arden instead of saveas

clear saddle
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@sterile cipher actually if you just move saveas bottom, he will do better against the ogi. so maybe something like:

Belinda
Thoran/Estrilda
Arden
Hogan/Hendrik
Saveas

copper moon
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@idle oriole
Try

Arden
---- Shemira
Mehira
---- Brutus
Rowan

Make sure Rowan has a lower defense than Arden. You might have to swap or remove gear from Rowan.

clear saddle
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dont think he has tasi

slow kiln
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Not working :/ I might need to both Athalia and Silvina to distract the Mages for a bit

untold rivet
copper moon
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@clear saddle I saw Mehira and instantly thought Tasi. Fixed in edit.

clear saddle
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๐Ÿ‘

copper moon
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@untold rivet
Try

Shemira
---- Lyca/Tasi
Arden/Mehira
---- Lucius
Rowan

Have Silvina target Rowan

worthy nimbus
untold rivet
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@copper moon silvina went after Rowan. Not Arden. But I will try the other combinations as well

copper moon
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@untold rivet I meant Rowan lol

untold rivet
worthy nimbus
clear saddle
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@worthy nimbus swap nemora and tasi position? I personally cleared it with

Lyca
Shem
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi iirc

copper moon
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@untold rivet
Try

Belinda
---- Lucius
Arden
---- Brutus
Tasi

idle oriole
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@copper moon silvina targets my mehira anyway so does it matter that rowan had a lower defense than Arden?

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Has*

copper moon
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@idle oriole Rowan needs lower defense than Mehira as well. Silvina targets the lowest defense mage.

idle oriole
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Ye got that ok I'll try

ancient cargo
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Any input from this level of hell, also known as Graveborn Tower level 160? These will probably be the characters I use so looking more for what artifacts I give to who so that they can survive the flock of Athelias long enough to do something.

idle oriole
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ty it worked ๐Ÿ™Œ @copper moon

wise merlin
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@ancient cargo Try this :

Baden
Ferael
Grezhul
Nara
Thoran

Since you'll need to disable both the Ezizh's ultimate prevention cast and I think it'll do you enough.

If not, then instead of Ferael, try Shemira, if you believe she could carry this.

Give call to Grezhul

bold coral
steel patrol
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I still donโ€™t have a decent silvina yet

glacial brook
odd python
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you might need a copy of arden, also not sure how useful fawkes will be since im guessing he coffins lyca. try swapping lyca in for fawkes for the haste + energy gain, give shem call or the crit artifact, and see how it goes

broken egret
limpid quail
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@glacial brook you can try
arden
brutus
lyca
shemira
nemora (charm sav to kill the tree)

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@bold coral reset mirael and ira and bring saveas to 120 then put him in for anyone

clear saddle
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@limber slate I personally run Shemira + Meta team. So if you would be interested in that you could reset your belinda and level your shemira instead. But for your current setup, i would advise you to move your belinda top so that she can focus the niru down. you need to kill him before he powers up. you could also try rosaline instead of rowan

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@pale kettle I guess your shem cant tank the saveas for very long?

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do you have good gear on lyca?

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Try having her tank the saveas instead, with shemira behind lyca

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and of course, nemora to charm ferael and arden

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Guess you've tried shem vs brutus?

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I didnt take a screenshot of that stage, but i did for the next one. Maybe try shem behind brutus

limber slate
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@clear saddle what would be my shamira line up be then?

clear saddle
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@pale kettle ah yeah. might have to have your shemira tank the saveas and hope that rng works somehow

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@limber slate do you have an arden anywhere?

abstract mountain
limber slate
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I do just used my L+ to up lyca

clear saddle
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...

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Way too early to sacrifice L+ arden

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Yeah, you need nemora to charm ferael

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@limber slate Since your tasi is E you could probably use an R+ one, just make tasi have a lower defense

Then you can run:

Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

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@abstract mountain run shemira front instead of lyca, and move arden top back with lyca middle back

abstract mountain
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Worked after 1st time. U are some kind of God in this game

clear saddle
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๐Ÿ‘

limber slate
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Kk ty

thick cypress
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yo @clear saddle im stuck again and i wanna cry

clear saddle
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@thick cypress That's the game we're both playing. it do be like this sometimes

thick cypress
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any ideas?

clear saddle
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arden instead of nemora probably, and swap your lucius and shems position

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Or you could also try your current setup in the picture, but just swap the frontliners with each other

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@thick cypress

thick cypress
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alright thanks brotha, iโ€™ll try it out and let you know

clear saddle
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try both and see how it goes

limber slate
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@clear saddle ty I managed to get it down

thick cypress
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thanks brother it worked!

idle girder
pale kettle
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3rd time i post this in 3 or 4 days, I have been ignored the 2nd other times

copper moon
pale kettle
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Thx a lot

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My shemira isnt as powerful as yours

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๐Ÿ˜ข

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Maybe not the right artifact

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Which 5 should I focus on and should I reset any of the ones Iโ€™ve leveled up

vagrant goblet
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@pale kettle not much to choose from at this point. Iโ€™d probably try to make sure Belinda was my carry at this point, so get her as high as you can

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Alternatively Mirael is a beast early on

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Leveling order on characters is carry, tanks, supports

earnest plank
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Looking for a wrizz and soren team. Right now i run Shemira, rowan, belinda, rosaline, and lucuis for wrizz. I run nemora, baden, grezhul, lucius, shemira for soren. Any input would be mich appreciated

olive thorn
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can u show us all your box @earnest plank

clear saddle
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@earnest plank for Soren, you can run something like:

Shemira Lucius Baden Rowan Rosa. wrizz you can go full damage and go shemira belinda rosa rowan and baden or swap someone for grez maybe

pale kettle
earnest plank
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Oh, i use raine in place of lucuis now. Sry

clear saddle
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@pale kettle Either is fine, might be better to go mirael since she is L+ tier and you can obtain copies of her quite easily

gilded ruin
olive thorn
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@gilded ruin u can try to swap nemo and arden. Reset if enemy arden isn't charm

pale kettle
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@clear saddle but Iโ€™m know where near L+, currently on 6-36 and have no fodder atm

clear saddle
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I know that much, which is why i said either is fine. They both do a similar thing. But you can get miraels more easily than belindas which is why i recommended you to use mirael. but either is fine

pale kettle
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Ah okay, thank you for the advice

jade lake
alpine jolt
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Doesnt your Fawkes coffin the Shem? @jade lake

limpid quail
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@jade lake go back and choose another opponent ๐Ÿ˜‰

jade lake
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Yes, but usually Rosaline's ult goes off when she gets released

alpine jolt
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you need lyca and your own shemira, use the saf to bait the enemy's fawkes and your shem will ult first

jade lake
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Haha, yes of course - I only ask because I have a rialry with this particular opponenet

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Hmmm - I'll give tht a go, thank you

alpine jolt
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if it doesnt work, add thane instead of mehira, maybe he will burst the rosa down, send me ss in pm if its not working

jade lake
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Yes, that could also work, thanks. Wish I had Athalia

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Thanks for the advice!

alpine jolt
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no worries, let me know how it went

autumn harness
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Looks easy ๐Ÿ”ก

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...

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Put shemira behind lucius in top

ionic scaffold
wise merlin
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@ionic scaffold Swap Rowan for Brutus and put Brutus instead of Lucius, put Lucius in the backline.

ionic scaffold
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Rowan insta dies to the dude in the middle and my tanks pop so fast. ๐Ÿค”

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Everything died even faster than with Rowan :p

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Basically everything dies instantly except Saveas and then it's 1v4 or 1v5, depending on if I kill the centaur with lucky crits. ๐Ÿคท

tough bloom
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What heroes should I be focusing on?

orchid egret
foggy radish
cinder crag
pale kettle
cinder crag
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Nvm passed it

pseudo hill
lofty depot
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Looks pretty good honestly, make sure you spend faction scrolls on Wilders only so you can get Tasi/Nemora/Lyca. Once you get Shem to 161 you can replace Saveas with her. Keep Saveas for faction tower though

pseudo hill
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Oh, I was told to feed Sav into Brutus in the future

lofty depot
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Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora

That's a very good lineup you can try and go for, you could also use Rowan in the back middle if you want and maybe replace Lyca. Your Brutus isn't very strong right now so Hogan is probably better at the moment

pseudo hill
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I should use Shem now?

lofty depot
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Well yeah once you get past +60 in faction tower you can fodder Saveas to Brutus but right now you only have an E Brutus anyways

No use Shem once you get her to level 161

pseudo hill
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Okay

lofty depot
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Keep buying Shem copies from the lab for now, you could also buy one copy of Nemora if you want since you don't have her yet

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Nemora is very good for charm and heal, and sometimes you really need a Nemora or Arden depend on your enemies

pseudo hill
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Okay cool

pseudo hill
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@lofty depot it just takes so long to be able to afford a Shemira

broken egret
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@devout idol have you tried the meta comp? Try something like:
lyca
shem
tasi
brut
arden

west cairn
devout idol
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@broken egret Shemira dies in 5 seconds

broken egret
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@devout idol not sure how your gear for shem is looking, but there are a few things you can still try. Swap arden with lyca that way she should survive a bit longer. If that doesnt work try swapping lyca and shem instead so shem is behind lyca and lyca tanks first few hits. Also i assume you placed call on tasi right?

clear saddle
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@west cairn for your current setup, move your damage top. you need to kill the vedan asap

west cairn
broken egret
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@clear saddle in the clip he shows he already beat it with them bottom

clear saddle
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alright sure

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

west cairn
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Itโ€™s safe to assume Iโ€™ve tried... it doesnโ€™t work for that stage

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Thanks though โค

clear saddle
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well, sometimes formations take more than a couple tries. Congrats anyway

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๐Ÿ‘

lofty depot
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@pseudo hill Yeah I know but just give it time, Shemira is VERY good!

stable mason
pseudo hill
torpid cosmos
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Dont forget hero positions have a big impact, not only factions, for example William can try:

NEMORA
LYCA
SHEMIRA
BRUTUS
TASI

if his lyca is good enough it will do a lot of damage to grez perhaps kill and attack enemy shem, hopefully nemora also charms it, then shem will be middle to evade enemy nem charm

lofty depot
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@pseudo hill Try this:

Saveas
Hogan
Tasi
Lyca or Brutus
Arden

pseudo hill
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@lofty depot the Vedan is just such an issue

torpid cosmos
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Well Morbid's idea isnt bad, saveas could kill the front line easy and aim for vedan

lofty depot
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@pseudo hill Try moving Arden so Vedan doesn't kill him but make sure Arden roots him

pseudo hill
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@lofty depot the Vedan always gets โ€œfrozenโ€ by the Tasi at the start causing me to not be able to attack him

last beacon
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Hi can anyone help me. Iโ€™m new and donโ€™t know who or what I should be using to progress. This is my team, what is my aim? Thanks

fierce kayak
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@last beacon read pinned at #classic-questions, top right. Just pull more heroes first, too early now to plan anything.

lofty depot
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@pseudo hill Hmm honestly I don't know then, remove Tasi and put Nara opposite of Vedan and try that

orchid egret
forest depot
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Any suggestions for tackling 22-60? Been stuck for quite a while, have all mythic pretty well upgraded gear and nearly all mythic + for both shemira and Lucius.

foggy radish
torpid cosmos
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Cant beat this, tried multiple combinations that rigged ulmus roots at start and then when its gone arden roots - .- by the time its gone im down to 1 hero and ulmus spams rocks

pale kettle
torpid cosmos
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Bruh just athalia that arden

pale kettle
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I tried

torpid cosmos
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Hmm try
Athalia
Hendrick
Arden
Lucius
Saveas

Saveas does added damage to wilder, and u wanna rub out that archer while arden is being dealt by athalia

pale kettle
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Alright Iโ€™ll try

real palm
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Before* because they die fast

pale kettle
torpid cosmos
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Yeah that warek is an ass, somehow it can ohko from the backstab throw o .e to top it off brutus and that totem guy that distracts you

real palm
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Something keeps stunning my luc the sec he tries to shield as well which kills luc

torpid cosmos
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Roflao warek stuns also ulmus rocks

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And that video wont play for me xD

pale kettle
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Hmm thatโ€™s weird. It was just my team got a little obliterated lol

nimble sage
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Any bright ideas? Its the final boss of Labyrinth.... and I have these people. Also, an E Level 100 Saveas too.

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By totem guy, you wouldn`t happen to mean Numisu?

forest depot
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@real palm try shemira front line and Lucius behind her? Thatโ€™s how Iโ€™ve always run it but then again my shemira has always been set up as my carry so sheโ€™s been overleveled

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Maybe also Belinda for tasi? You have a lot of heal / cc but not too much damage

real palm
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Shems ult can kill them

cursive sparrow
torpid cosmos
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Oh hmm then swap athalia for shem maybe hendrick will protect her instead
Also @nimble sage swap belinda and nara, that will pull the graveborn jumper to her so it doesnt kill anyone

real palm
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Within like 12 seconds of it out, but I dont survive long after the ult

pale kettle
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Hendrik dies first soo

forest depot
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Try rosaline to stack shemira ults then @real palm

nimble sage
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Ehm. I managed to restart before I got my team annihilated-

cursive sparrow
nimble sage
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Damage output aint enough to combat Numisu, damnitttt

cursive sparrow
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Can anyone help with this anoying stage

torpid cosmos
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@nimble sage it prob is but he distracts ur heros with his scattered weapons

nimble sage
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The opposing team was healing faster than the damage could be dealt.

pale kettle
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Beat it

real palm
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@forest depot should I swap out nemora or rowen

torpid cosmos
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Hmm yeah nomisu.. uhh give lyca a try, she speeds up ur attacks

pale kettle
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I partially used ur lineup.
I used
Athalia
Tasi
Arden
Brutus
Shemira

torpid cosmos
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Kay :o

forest depot
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@real palm id consider keeping Rowan because even when he dies he can still heal and again itโ€™ll give you the faction bonus with Rowan rosaline and Lucius if youโ€™re ultimate goal is just to battery shemiras ult that could probably work. Keep Rowan middle put rosaline top back line and sheโ€™ll work her way down leaving Brutus by himself to buy time

torpid cosmos
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He heals when he dies? Tf, interesting.. now im thinking of making mine mythic ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I have like 3 elite+ rowan and 1 elite

real palm
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His stand of potions stays up

torpid cosmos
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Ahh, anyways i got him to L+ if i continue ill have to sacrifice Belinda L+ for a mythic rowan and dont think i wanna do that XD

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Actually.. lemme try warek ๐Ÿ˜‚

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And got rekt but atleast not as bad

violet pecan
devout idol
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@broken egret I literally can't upgrade my equipment because the game crashes every single time I do it...

broken egret
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@devout idol tried reinstalling the game?

torpid cosmos
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Basically got their shemora to kill the team with mehira LOL

faint bay
devout idol
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@broken egret Yes, I reinstalled and repaired it countless times, it didn't do anything , the android crash problem is happening for more than one month but they don't want to do anything about it ...

broken egret
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Tried installing nox on pc or something?

floral cargo
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@faint bay you need some higher levels just afk more, 11-40 was a pain

torpid cosmos
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@faint bay whys there a hogan in the back?? Use shemira XD

faint bay
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@floral cargo yup that might be it

floral cargo
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Yeah

faint bay
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@torpid cosmos i was just trying new stuff, and lvl 121 shemira doesnt do anything in this stage of the game

torpid cosmos
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Have you tried leveling it? Because my lv.192 shemira end up reking everything

faint bay
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but if you have any more tips i'd like to test them ๐Ÿ™‚

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i need to ascend her a bit more, its of my understanding that shemira only shines 161+

torpid cosmos
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Something keeps one shoting my heros even tho they have mythic gear 5*

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I would think it was niru but it doesnt ohko the whole team so wth

novel adder
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@floral cargo try
Fawkes
Estrilda
Belinda
Brutus
Saveas.
Try for some lucky crits.

floral cargo
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Okey

novel adder
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@torpid cosmos try
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Rng til you charm ferael.

torpid cosmos
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I dont have arden ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Can i use gwyneth to stun instead?

novel adder
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@torpid cosmos run tasi then.. but you should build an arden.. pretty invaluable

torpid cosmos
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Kay

floral cargo
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Woah how dont u have him

@novel adder my old lineup did 282828 times better cuz fawkes had the time to put brutus in the coffin and arden would root niru and sav would kill him

torpid cosmos
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Oi๐Ÿ˜‚ @novel adder nemora keeps charming niru

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Im thinking nemora got nerfed

novel adder
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@floral cargo i mean you can rng it however you want.. im just suggesting comps that i think can beat it.. you need to give a comp a lot of tries to win.. just because a comp gets absolutely destroyed doesnt mean its worse.. you need to look at how the rng turned out..
my guess is in your own comp you kill niru but not enough time to deal with brutus and isabella ult.
So my suggestion is to utilise your lb bonuses (advantageous against maulers..) with estrilda buffing and has decent attack with belinda's burst+ crit attack buff..
You must also understand that i can't infer as much as you can when im just looking at a picture..

torpid cosmos
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Almost won when fara got charmed, isa rekt me

novel adder
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@torpid cosmos as i mentioned.. you need to rng it.. almost all stages need a decent amount of retries unless you have been stalling your progress and are too powerful for a stage

floral cargo
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The thing is, my heroes dont even kill 1 hero with the comp you gave me

Thats why i gave up on rng

novel adder
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good luck retrying. @torpid cosmos

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@floral cargo how many tries?

floral cargo
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Like 7
Each match would end in 5-8 seconds

novel adder
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its up to you.. if you think your own team works better go for it

floral cargo
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It does at the start

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But get struggled by brutusโ€™ op last gasp, it feels like it lasts for more than 7 seconds tbh

novel adder
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@floral cargo my suggestion is just afk..once you get estrilda 141 your own brutus will have 7 secs.. that will be a big difference

floral cargo
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I need 1 more estrilda to get her to L+, i have more than enough hero xp and gold

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Lets talk in dms if you want, the cooldown is annoying

novel adder
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@floral cargo hmmm have you read the pinned tips in #classic-questions ? the right move would have been to not ascend isabella beyond L+ and keep the L+ fodder.. that would have given you the access to 141

floral cargo
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Would it?

novel adder
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since that would have been your 5th L+

floral cargo
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Ah yeah it could

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But silvina sucked and i was tempted โ€œ omg imma get a m heroโ€

nova cedar
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Hi, I'm stuck ๐Ÿ˜ฌ help, please

floral cargo
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Defo use saveas

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Im not good at lineups sry xD

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But i know that saveas is the best carry early on in chap 11

torpid cosmos
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Rng charmed arden but that sniper thing one shots 3 heros

nova cedar
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i'm not having much luck with my saveas xD

novel adder
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@nova cedar i cant really see your khasos level.. is it 140?
i'd try
Saveas
Brutus
Khasos
Estrilda
Rowan/Tasi/Nemora

nova cedar
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  1. Ok, I will try! Thank you
novel adder
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@foggy radish try with estrilda instead of brutus.. you need a run where tasi ults before the ulmuses.. call on tasi, blade on shem. It can work with brutus but the rng is a bit harder.. you need tasi to go low without dying and nemora heal her to accelerate the ult.

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@cursive sparrow
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Fawkes/Tasi
You need to rng until nemora charms arden.. as long as u can see the charm pass through its possible. If you cant see try putting better boots on nemora.. put dura's call on her if you have to.

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@forest depot i assume rosaline follows shem?
try with
Rosaline
Shem
Brut
Seirus
Fawkes.
Or maybe swap rose and fawkes position.. im not 100% sure.. Or maybe fawkes up top and run tasi instead of rosa down

foggy radish
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@novel adder Do i need nem? I am surprised that my estrilda can survive in Front :D but i still Lack some dmg

forest depot
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@novel adder yes she follows shemira, Iโ€™ll give it a few tries thanks for the suggestion!

novel adder
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@orchid egret Lineup wise it doesnt look wrong.. id just swap tasi and lyca's position.. but its a very rng dependent stage.. your arden needs to root khasos no matter what and numisu's totems must not kill your backline..

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@foggy radish not 100% needed but sometimes her heal which gives some energy.. could be the difference between ulting before or after the ulmus.. if you happen to have a sig +10 ferael it would help to anti regen. not sure how good arden will fare.. but nem could be good to charm as well and steal the shields/regen.. shield regen on you means its not on them

torpid cosmos
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Im about to give up, arden is annoying amd so is the shotgun midget

real palm
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Lol

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Poor shotty midget

foggy radish
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@novel adder thx for the Tips, but its Not working :) the healing is just insane and my tasi cant move quick enough, dunno what to Do

torpid cosmos
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Then somehow something is doing a 5 hero attack

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Like aoe

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Even when shotgun midget is banished

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-throws phone- screw u arden/shotgun midget combo, annoying since one grabs then the other snipes in groups, then by the time my shem gets her ult she gets one shot no matter where i place her

untold rivet
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Shotgun Midget? you mean Morvus?

torpid cosmos
#

I swear i saw that enemy team before...

untold rivet
#

Mitsumi, I do believe it was in the secrets of the forest peaks of time thing. ((I stand corrected, I think))

torpid cosmos
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@dire axle try it

dire axle
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ill try it out

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but i have no resonating crystal space for arden yet

torpid cosmos
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Welp

dire axle
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i also dont thing it will work on this level, tasi gets oneshotted before the can teleport

torpid cosmos
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Then try nemora charming enemy arden and hope he roots his team

dire axle
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she does, but its not enough

torpid cosmos
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Roflao same one..

dire axle
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welcome to the club dannie

torpid cosmos
devout idol
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Lucius gets oneshoted everytime, Belinda cant use her ultimate and Shemira dies after her first ultimate...

torpid cosmos
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Same vs this team that arden plus morvus is annoying, same concept with the archer

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Will beat that with:
Athalia
Tasi
Arden
Brutus
Shemira

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The one ur stuck on

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@devout idol

devout idol
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Tasi gets one shoted in less than a second

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Its even worse than before

torpid cosmos
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Hmm welp then idk xD

orchid egret
#

@novel adder okay thanks, ill keep testing my rng then

dire axle
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i got it

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i used thor lyca brutus nara mehira shemira

untold rivet
dire axle
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forget the thor part

torpid cosmos
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Theres thor?? Hidden hero?? ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ˜‚

dire axle
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you didnt see? he trows hammers and lightninga

untold rivet
#

Could anyone please give a suggestion for me?

orchid egret
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Maybe
Tasi
โ€”-lucius
Arden
โ€”-brutus
Athalia ? @untold rivet

lofty depot
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@untold rivet

Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Nemora

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You also have Lyca so you could try

Saveas
Lyca
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora/Arden

untold rivet
#

Out of all of them, the group that lasts the longest, still loses 4-0.... I will keep trying for a bit.

nimble sage
#

Should I keep my main setup?
Lyca/Arden, Belinda, /Nemora
Hogan/Estrilda

Or should I add someone like... Rowan or Nara? Just a question.

torpid cosmos
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Uhh hogan and the archer chick wont last long, they only get to legendary+ so once u get past that you swap them out and use a food for the new ones to mythic :3 u have lots of future fodder tho so thats good

nimble sage
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I know. They`re there for temporary. I have Lyca for Haste boost to make Nemora or Arden go faster.

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Mainly trying to figure out if I have something better I could be using to maybe push the wall a bit.

west cairn
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@untold rivet try Rosa Belinda Rowan backline and try to game a Belinda ult, also Lucius Estrilda front line

untold rivet
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That is by far the best I have done so far @west cairn Thanks

brittle maple
dim nova
#

Anyone got a minute to help a newb learn

woven kiln
#

Stumped tried tons and lost tons

copper moon
calm salmon
#

why is 15-8 so hard

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help๐Ÿ˜‚

gloomy gyro
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i think using tasi would help since she can temporarily make the fight into a 4v5. I passed this part using this line up: Brutus, Estrida, Belinda, shemira, and fawkes

dim nova
copper moon
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@calm salmon reset Thane and level Shemira to 180 and replace Thane with Tasi. Should help alot

gloomy gyro
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@dim nova Shemira should be one of them. This is just personal preference, i would choose Belinda, Estrida, and shemira

calm salmon
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but i love thane he carried me to chap 15๐Ÿ˜‚

gloomy gyro
#

But that can change depending on how good your RNG is since you might get better heroes that you like and might have wait to upgrade them

calm salmon
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will try

gloomy gyro
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@calm salmon you could replace the big shield guy with tasi instead, imo he's not that great and doesnt provide much until later levels

dim nova
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Im currently on 5-40 and floor 65 kings just want to know who to prioritize for lvls and whatnot game doesn't explain much

gloomy gyro
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@dim nova ahh okay, for right now, i think what would work best is for you to focus on your 4 lightbearers and shemira this way you benefit from the set bonus. Then later you can replace Horan with someone else that can go past L+ tier. Also, its up to you but i suggest evening out the levels so like that they are all level 70 then focus on one person to level up to max until you can ascend them again then. after you finish one just move on a different one. If that make any sense.

brittle maple
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@copper moon how does that lineup even work? The Brutus deletes my shem

copper moon
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@brittle maple Mehira charms Brutus away from Shemira then Shemira cleans house takes alot of resets

brittle maple
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@copper moon the poison bomb from the vurk blows up my shem though :/

brittle maple
tough matrix
#

9-20 help

wise rain
#

this is my five , and i just got this new lady should i replace someone with her?

low zephyr
#

No

sharp ocean
wise kestrel
#

gb tower 115, doable?

loud kernel
willow island
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experiment with shem

loud kernel
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got it without shem idk she always underperforms thats why i reset her from 180 i maybe need gear for her

willow island
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i got mythic gear from the ealiest i could, it does help

loud kernel
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u mean wait 2 days every stage?

subtle breach
fallow niche
#

Anyone using Gwen? Got her M+ with sig item M+ gear and sheโ€™s still very bad...

shrewd haven
#

15.36 can anyone suggest how it should be?

orchid egret
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@shrewd haven post your team and who you are up against, otherwise its hard to good you advice

glacial brook
deft niche
haughty comet
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You can replace Lyca for them as they fill a similar role in granting Haste.

jaunty jolt
floral cargo
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Dont ascent anyone yet

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Wait for another E+ ira and then ascend lyca

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@jaunty jolt not just ira u can use E+ Ogi too

fierce kayak
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@jaunty jolt don't L heroes. Read pinned at #classic-questions, top right of it

Continue ascend Hogan Arden shemira

jaunty jolt
#

Ty will do :+1:

pale kettle
iron kelp
remote otter
sullen meadow
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@iron kelp that saveas needs to go

orchid egret
copper mica
pale kettle
iron kelp
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@sullen meadow I asked about the same thing. About feeding Saveas to Vurk. So i can level my crystal. the general consensus were wait for more food

atomic flower
warped stratus
sterile cipher
quasi crag
eager echo
#

Lightbearer tower 60

dim pecan
#

Need help again, almost every next level feels like nightmare...

slow blaze
versed canopy
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@slow blaze do you plan on using varek ? If not just be patient

slow blaze
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Ok. Yeah, Varek isnโ€™t on my short list.

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@versed canopy patience is hard. But I will be

versed canopy
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@slow blaze Well its hard until you realise that while lvling up gives you a boost now it will slow you down later on. Don't hesitate to sacrifice saveas on khasos though since you're done with Brutus, he'll help in brutal citadel

slow blaze
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Ok. Thanks

versed canopy
slow blaze
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@versed canopy Athalia?

sharp ocean
slow blaze
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@sharp ocean do you have Saveas yet? Heโ€™s a key hero up to level 160

orchid egret
sharp ocean
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@slow blaze I do, I even have him at slightly upgraded i believe. Who do I swap out?

slow blaze
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@sharp ocean after a battle, click on the stats and see who does the least damage (not counting tanks). Look at swapping that hero, or if you have a hero who dies very fast, swap them. Try leveling Saveas and give him decent gear. Heโ€™ll help a lot

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@orchid egret no Shemira? I am jealous of your Gwyneth though

sharp ocean
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Hes one of the ones in my resonating crystal but also perfect I will do just that thank you!

shrewd haven
zealous snow
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how big is the stat gap from mythic > ascended? I can ascend my shemira soon but i only have 2 mythic units currently. Should i mythic my grezhul and work towards 5 mythic? Or just jump shemira to ascended

robust plume
#

best artifact for heroes my comp ? lucius, brutus, shemira, falkes, belinda got all artfact

tough pendant
copper moon
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@tough pendant Brutus

tough pendant
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Thanks holiday!

copper moon
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@copper moon wait nvm Saveas to L+ first for carry

If you don't already have one

tough pendant
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Nah not yet! Ok saveas for carry

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Thanks bro!

copper moon
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@idle oriole
Try

Shemira
---- Lyca
Arden
---- Brutus
Nemora

copper mica
idle oriole
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@copper mica
Nemora
--Tasi
Arden
--Brutus
Belinda

Something like that

main ferry
#

Someone help me make a
better team

worthy bane
#

@main ferry Your team is fine. The issue in my eyes is your leveling. I prefer having 3 heros at 101 and 2 at 81 compared to 5 at 90-95. The extra still effect helps a ton, and generally lets your tanks be more tanky, and dps do more damage

hasty night
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Help with 20-52? Dont think the rest of my heroes r of any use, all e+

worthy bane
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@hasty night E+ and lower have uses. I'm using an E+ Rowan, E ezizh, and E Mehira sometimes. Don't write them off. I say keep rerolling with that stage. It's winnable if you get some good rng

hasty night
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Shem doesnt even get ult charged with call, I think I need a better comp

abstract mountain
devout berry
#

@hasty night try
Lyca
-Shem
Tasi
-Brutus
Nemora

Think I beat this by having Nemora charm Saveas to help kill tree

hasty night
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Oh yea good idea

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Unfortunately Shem dies very quick due to lyca and kaz. I swapped lyca and Shem and I seem to be getting closer

abstract mountain
#

Any advise to me ?

sharp ocean
stoic haven
subtle breach
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I really have no clue how to beat ghis stage. I figured, hey, Athalia can buy time versus Arden, but then Numisu wallops me...and I can't get rid of Nemora to boot.

idle oriole
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@sharp ocean good but replace saveas with Belinda until u get him to Legendary+.. Also make sure u have a carry unit which is 10-20 levels above the rest

sharp ocean
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@idle oriole who would you recommend for a carry unit?

idle oriole
#

Belinda or shemira but saveas gets good once u level him up to 141 and can help u till chapter 14-15 @sharp ocean

sharp ocean
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@idle oriole so add Shemira and Belinda into the lineup? Who do I take out then?

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Estrilda and Saveas?

idle oriole
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Just add Belinda for now wait till shemira is at higher ascension

sharp ocean
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Ah alrighty

idle oriole
#

@sharp ocean yea looks good

clear saddle
#

@subtle breach can you show all of your heroes?

idle oriole
clear saddle
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@idle oriole If your shem can survive top with the right arden roots, that should work better

idle oriole
#

Ok I'll try it out

clear saddle
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@idle oriole Need your arden to root the kaz and lyca each time, or else your shem will die instantly

idle oriole
#

Gotcha, got class now but will try later

clear saddle
#

๐Ÿ‘

tawny garden
pale kettle
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guys I'm stuck on brutla citadel lvl 75 for like 2 weeks ... Can someone help ? What linup should I use ?

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@tawny garden fine as it is; you will quickly upgrade your team at this lvl so don't bother to much with it ๐Ÿ™‚

harsh solstice
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@tawny garden consider swapping out mirael cuz she's not too great at single target

foggy radish
wise merlin
#

@foggy radish Hey!

Firstly, I'd like to ask you to take questions like these to #classic-questions , the purpose of this channel is for line up advices on stages you'd be stuck at (as it says above).

But I'll answer here regardless;

In my personal opinion, sacrificing Arden for Lyca to provide level 240 Shemira is well worth it, I've done it, and have progressed a whole chapter (speaking of chapter 21) due to the action.

If you wouldn't like to do that, you could also sacrifice the 4 Elite+ Lightbearer Angelo and Morvus' to give Belinda M tier, and provide the same.

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.
But to me, a Rare Arden and a Legendary+ Arden are the same Arden, they do the same job, and die as quickly.

foggy radish
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@wise merlin sorry i thought its Kind of a lineup question, but thx for your answer, i thought of sacrificing arden too:) so the Plan would be lyca, getting her 180 and then pump everything into shem?

limber musk
#

everything dies quickly ._.

wise merlin
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@foggy radish Yes. definitely. ๐Ÿ™‚

foggy radish
#

@wise merlin ty sir :)

wise merlin
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You're very welcome, best of luck to you! belindakiss

willow spruce
wise merlin
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@willow spruce Put Shemira in the front instead of Lyca, and pray for the following RNG :

Ferael gets charmed

Ferael terrorizes Saveas and Numisu (and also himself if lucky)

Arden roots 2 times in a row.

Give call to Shemira.

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.
Try several times, it will work eventually. ^^

willow spruce
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Ty @wise merlin :)

wise merlin
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Welcome! Best of luck belindakiss

pale kettle
#

guys I'm stuck on brutla citadel lvl 75 for like 2 weeks ... Can someone help ? What linup should I use ?

violet pecan
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@wise merlin hey. Sorry for bothering you. But do you have any idea how to beat Bon team comps?

wise merlin
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Oh wow... that's a first for me.

Well you didn't bother me, no worries.

And.. what heroes can you fight with? if you don't mind sharing. ^^

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@violet pecan

olive thorn
#

maybe i can help aswell

pseudo hill
rigid summit
#

How do I beat this Tower of light Floor 40

pale kettle
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Does gwen need to be in middle @rigid summit Iโ€™d try switching out gawks for rose

idle oriole
#

Reset ankhira and rather level up tasi no? @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Yah I legit just did this

idle oriole
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Lol

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Tried adding wilders for some cc? @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Yah but Arden get one shot

idle oriole
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Rather don't add Arden do tasi lyca nemora since Arden only E

pale kettle
#

Ight Iโ€™ll try that

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Yah every just dies to quick nemora doesent even get charm off

idle oriole
#

@pale kettle maybe try using nemora as a bait for silvina

pale kettle
#

Who else

limpid quail
#

@pale kettle try
tasi/arden as silivina bait
brutus
lyca
shemira
nemora

pale kettle
#

I have itโ€™s just enough to get Shem to ult but she dies right after

shy crag
#

Need help

idle oriole
#

@shy crag
Something like
Arden
--Brutus
Belinda
--Lyca
Athalia

violet pecan
#

@wise merlin all heroes maxwd out. Jusz give me some formations

#

Asking for friend

limpid quail
old ridge
pure narwhal
#

I'm about to be able to buy my first unit with lab points. Given my roster, who would be the best fit? Nemora?

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Or should I switch my team aound?

broken egret
opal gulch
#

@broken egret mike should win

broken egret
#

ye was thinking the same

vestal dagger
pale kettle
#

@pure narwhal nemora for support or shem if you want a potential carry

gleaming sun
pure narwhal
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If I went shrmira what would.my team look like then? I wouldnt have another graveborn to make a useful buff.

pale kettle
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buffs arenโ€™t 100% necessary they help a lot but youlr just do seirus nemora tasi the twins and shem

orchid egret
pale kettle
#

@orchid egret replace rosa with gwyn

pure narwhal
#

@pale kettle how about this box? Would shermiabe best purchase? Or nemora? And what would team comp be?

pale kettle
#

with shem it would be thoran lucius frontline isabella lyca shem with lyca in the back middle @pure narwhal

pure narwhal
#

How about if I went to nemora?

twin hare
#

For anyone searching, cleared 12-36 with brutus/lucius (front) saveas arden shemira (back)

main grove
orchid egret
clear saddle
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@orchid egret Swap lyca and arden position maybe

orchid egret
#

Ok thx

lethal snow
dawn maple
devout berry
clear saddle
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@dawn maple show the enemy comp as well like everyone else, thanks

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@devout berry Could use nemora middle to charm enemy arden and use him to root his own team, and use brutus instead of athalia and put him frontline

dawn maple
clear saddle
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@dawn maple Do you have space in your crystal for arden?

dawn maple
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yeh i think so

olive thorn
#

@broken egret mike

clear saddle
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Put him in your crystal, then replace gwyneth with him and try

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Might need to shift him around to find optimum setup

dawn maple
#

gotcha, will try

scenic frost
#

stuck

#

help pls

devout berry
naive summit
hot plaza
clear saddle
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@hot plaza Shemira Brutus Lyca Tasi Arden

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@naive summit Swap your Lyca and tasi around, and shem and lucius around

scenic frost
#

Why do people use Arden

clear saddle
#

his root is super good

hot plaza
#

Who is front, Tuesday?

clear saddle
#

Brutus and Shemira most of the time

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once you get good gear on Lyca, she can frontline sometimes

scenic frost
clear saddle
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Shemira Lucius Lyca Tasi Arden/Nemora

scenic frost
#

Why not Brutus or Belinda

clear saddle
#

Nvm, brutus instead of lucius

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was just blind

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but Shemira instead of belinda because she has sustain

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she heals a lot by herself which belinda cannot do

scenic frost
#

And my Arden is blue rarity

clear saddle
#

if you want to use belinda though, you can run something like Belinda, Lucius Brutus Rowan Lyca or Fawkes instead of lyca

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@scenic frost i would recommend you start building arden, i'm still using him in chapter 23

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if you plan on running wilder supports that is

scenic frost
#

My shem dies before a single ult in chapter 13

clear saddle
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Thats because she isnt overlevelled

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the rule of thumb with levelling, is to always max out your carry (main damage dealer)

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so in that case, it would be shemira

naive summit
#

Thanks @clear saddle

jovial jolt
clear saddle
#

Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca

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@jovial jolt

jovial jolt
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@clear saddle got rolled, maybe I'm just under leveled

clear saddle
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@jovial jolt Nah, you have to charm the ferael each time

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if that doesnt happen, reset

jovial jolt
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Okay, I'll keep trying thanks!

scenic frost
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@clear saddle should i reset my belinda, get my shemira to 161 and then just level belinda as much as possible?

clear saddle
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@scenic frost If you reset belinda, then level your shemira all the way

orchid egret
clear saddle
#

you only need 1 carry and shemira can do the job

scenic frost
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need belinda at least 120

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for crystal to level shem any more

clear saddle
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Get your crystal to 140, shemira to 180

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then crystal 160 and shemira 200

scenic frost
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i could only get shemira to 160

clear saddle
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its for the future

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obviously you cant do that now

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its the plan for when you can

dusk yacht
jovial jolt
clear saddle
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@jovial jolt ๐Ÿ‘

dusk yacht
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Anybody have any ideas with my lineup?

clear saddle
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@orchid egret Try shem in place of brutus, and brutus in place of lyca

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@dusk yacht for what?

dusk yacht
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@clear saddle chapter 15

orchid egret
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Im getting wreck, i guess ill wait and level up shem to 201 lol

clear saddle
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That question is too broad for me to answer properly. your lineup will change depending on the enemies @dusk yacht

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@orchid egret or maybe in that current picture swap your tasi and shems position

orchid egret
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Wow it worked, thx again and again @clear saddle

scenic frost
clear saddle
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Lyca instead of lucius

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then move your shemira front against golus

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and brutus front against grezhul

scenic frost
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my tasi keeps teleporting in and getting one shot

clear saddle
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then you need to retry until she doesnt

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her teleport is 'random'

scenic frost
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what artifact should i have on shem

clear saddle
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eye

floral lotus
idle oriole
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I have 141 crystal now but still like impossible

pulsar tapir
mortal atlas
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@floral lotus LISTEN, brutus and saevas in front, lyca nemora tasi in back, youll wreck them all

vast plover
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Use nemora to charm the arden @pulsar tapir

idle oriole
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@pulsar tapir why not overlevel shem?

scenic frost
pulsar tapir
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I should just reset levels and over level shem??

idle oriole
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@scenic frost use nemora to charm shemira or someone instead of rowan

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@pulsar tapir I think so ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ and maybe Athalia to cc Arden before he roots?

main ferry
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Any tips? I am super stuck

pulsar tapir
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My nemora can not charm before Arden kills her.

light kite
idle oriole
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@pulsar tapir nvm u can't overlevel shem cos she's only M but for the future I think that's more worth it

scenic frost
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my entire team dies pretty much instantly without rowan

idle oriole
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@light kite swap nemora and tasi to charm saveas

light kite
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it works like that?

idle oriole
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@light kite yes

pulsar tapir
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The only way I could over level her is by giving up Ferel but itโ€™s not worth it.

light kite
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well, she charmed the guy in front. Maybe because brutus died so fast?

idle oriole
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@scenic frost then maybe try an LB comp

@pulsar tapir yes definitely don't use ferael to ascend her

floral lotus
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@mortal atlas it worked! thanks :)

idle oriole
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@light kite she will charm saveas and maybe swap warek and sav

pulsar tapir
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So I guess Iโ€™ll just have to wait until I can scene her once more.

light kite
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@idle oriole she did this time, but she charms the frontline dude after brutus dies

idle oriole
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@light kite hm

pale kettle
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help me please ๐Ÿ™

light kite
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@digital pilot I think my heroes are just too weak atm. God damn it, I feel so tempted to ascend brutus using warek

idle oriole
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@pale kettle u don't rlly have a good dps carry for rosaline to buff like shem or Belinda

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@light kite don't ik it gets tempting but part of the game is going afk

mortal atlas
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@pale kettle OP TEAM, brutus, estrilda lyca arden/nemora and tasi

main ferry
mortal atlas
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@main ferry whiuch heroes, send your list

main ferry
strange meteor
mortal atlas
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@main ferry use resonating on kelthur he's great and then run Skreg Estrilda kelthur nemora arden/mirael

feral delta
main ferry
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I just die faster now lol

mortal atlas
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@feral delta use ulmnus tjoran mirael rowan saevas

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@main ferry , did you level kelthur , and maybe consider each roll is different, maybe try with a better roll

feral delta
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thanks ๐Ÿ‘Œ

main ferry
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I did

pale kettle
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Heya, who should i raise sig weapons for first? I have grez, rowan, khasos (don't really use him apart from faction towers), lyca as candidates, currently working on +30 on athalia

visual quiver
copper moon
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@visual quiver
Try

Tasi
---- Brutus
Lyca
---- Shemira
Arden

Give Arden Mythic shoes.

mortal atlas
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@visual quiver do what @copper moon suggested but maybe use lyca arden tasi in the back

visual quiver
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@copper moon lol. worked first try. thanks!

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I just don't understand why arden roots first if shemira is in front of him

twin hare
idle oriole
copper moon
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@visual quiver The shoes give movement speed which is haste. The faster Arden roots first.

mortal atlas
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@twin hare I think maybe swap lucius and brutus , nbot to mention maybe in the back run saevas nemora and tasi/arden

twin hare
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That's the team i'm running lol

idle oriole
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I've retried different comps about 100 times today with no success.. Do I just need a higher ascended brutus or shem?
141 crystal now btw

mortal atlas
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@twin hare I know, the order is what i changed

twin hare
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I've tried that, i'm only asking for advice because i've tried all combos with those 5 heroes

copper moon
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@twin hare
Try

Gwyneth
---- Brutus
Mehira
---- Lucius
Tasi/Nemora

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@idle oriole
Try

Shemira
---- Lyca
Arden
---- Brutus
Nemora

Or

Rowan
---- Shemira
Mehira
---- Brutus
Fawkes

idle oriole
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Ok sweet ๐Ÿ‘Œ I've tried the first comp already so I'll do the second one for now

twin hare
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@copper moon thanks, cleared it

iron kelp
final star
trail gate
main ferry
stable mason
sleek stone
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you need fawkesยจ

gaunt shell
copper moon
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@gaunt shell
Try

Tasi
---- Shemira
Nemora
---- Brutus
Rosaline

vernal loom
tropic marsh
#

Current line-up is well; all the levelled heroes

stable mason
amber rivet
haughty comet
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Oooo Most people don't have a Satrana that high up early on.

patent wing
scenic frost
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Iโ€™ve tried this fight probably 350 times with 15+ different comps and no luck, advice?

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13-37

patent wing
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Swap out a tank for Navi maybe for the 3 bonus

scenic frost
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Navi?

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Who the hell is navi @patent wing

patent wing
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Tasi sorry.

topaz eagle
#

Can I get help with 22-50 Iโ€™ve been stuck here weeks Iโ€™ve copied lineups in YouTube videos and I die in 20 seconds with a stronger lineup when they manage to beat it am I missing something.....?

pale kettle
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How do you beat faction tower lvl 80? I see someone passed it with only brutus basically, but I guess they used certain artifacts... so, any help on how to beat this level?

dusky gale
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@random verge try shemira brutus rosaline gwyneth and lucius, and give lucius second best tank gear

pulsar tapir
novel fulcrum
vale kraken
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@novel fulcrum make arden equip gears, adjust union buffs so arden has more defense than tasi so silvinas doesnt take him down from battle start.

Also, put arden where vurk's arrow won't hit him

tawny night
restive mauve
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@pale kettle swap saveas with lyca and give her saveas gear.

Put the mage silvina focuses behind brutus.

If you can, tryout arden instead of nemora.

pale kettle
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@restive mauve omg it worked! thank you so much!!!!

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle only one Carry is enough. You can drop savaea from now on and use him for faction tower time being.

Continue use Meta team with Shem Brutus front, Arden Tasi nemora lyca back. You should read pinned #classic-questions on mid game ascension guide. Becos ascend heroes you don't have copies to go A will delay you building top 5A.

Also.. focus. Like only Shemira to M+/A then you proceed to ascend other GB, etc..

P.s. you will need Arden

quasi crag
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11-38 friend needs help

fluid nacelle
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Should I focus estralia or Raine for a 5th with this lineup- Shemira, hogan, Brutus, Tasi

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Eventually hogan will be replaced with Gorvo since heโ€™s my highest level tank other than hogan.

solid marten
fierce kayak
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@solid marten don't drop Arden buddy. Try Lyca replace one of the tanks first. If still can't win then try Arden replace tasi or kaz

quasi crag
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@fierce kayak mind helping my buddy out i sent pics above

solid marten
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Thanks. Arden actually got me all the way through

fierce kayak
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@solid marten welcome

@quasi crag need full roster together with enemy stage

quasi crag
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Its above vibe checkโ€™s post

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@fierce kayak

fierce kayak
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@quasi crag try
Sav
Hogan
Nemora (charm estrilda/mirael)
Ogi
Lyca

Build Arden. Read pinned top right at #classic-questions

orchid egret
lone lodge
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Stuck on 8-12. I know my tanks are weak but canโ€™t do much on that cus theyโ€™re just not dropping for me

amber bobcat
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@lone lodge im in the same boat ๐Ÿ˜ฆ same level on all my heroes and almost same stage (8-8)

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stuck for like almost 2 days now

dim nova
amber bobcat
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hard to find people who can help i guess. all i see here are people looking for help ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fierce kayak
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Read pinned from #classic-questions for tips. You be able to progress for most of you guys.

low lynx
woven monolith
naive summit
haughty comet
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@woven monolith Your line up looks fine. Hendrik is the only other viable tank for non-PvP for Lightbearers. If you want one for Arena, Estrilda works well with Thane and Belinda.

deft niche
toxic flame
brittle maple
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Anyone got a lineup for 22-46?

small acorn
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@toxic flame i would put shem where brutus is and put tasi where shem was.

Another strat is to replace arden with nemora amd put her opposite enemy fearel so she can charm him and he haunts his own team, which dominates in many similar lvls. But she needs lyca speed boost for quicl charm

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@brittle maple soz i dont, you got ss?

brittle maple
small acorn
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If you replace rowan with nemora who does silv jump too?

pale rover
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@brittle maple Shemira Brutus front, Nemora (behind Shemira, charm Arden) Lyca Tasi back. Meta works fine for this. Make Tasi have the worst gear so Silvina jumps to her and she can hopefully escape.

small acorn
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^^^^ Exactly my thoughts as well

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Nem to charm arden, replace lucius with brutus. Try killvaden quickly before ult

brittle maple
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Yea the veldan murders me

small acorn
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Need enemy arden to root his own team.

If brutus/shem can kill vaden before ult works great.

toxic flame
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@small acorn nemora refuses to charm fearel no matter what I do

small acorn
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@toxic flame and she is in middle back opposite him?

toxic flame
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@small acorn yes. She just charms grezghul

odd python
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she can charm but its pretty rng just need to retry

toxic flame
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Well she charms one of the two front line enemies. Never back line

odd python
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do keep in mind this has worked for other people so you need to just retry till you get lucky with the right sequence of events, thats how it is with wilder support

brittle maple
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@pale rover @small acorn thanks for the tip. Took a few retries but it worked

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@toxic flame itโ€™ll happen. Just keep retrying

small acorn
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Sometimes you just got to beat your head against the wall until you get through..

fierce kayak
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@toxic flame nemora middle back charm fareal. Reset if charm fails. Shem and another tank front. Don't use tasi for this stage.

versed rampart
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Go-to pvp line up?

real palm
winter glacier
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21-60 Any tips? Using nara and athalia for control to stop the banish and ardens root but even with two ultimates from shemira the healing is too much. What a painnnnn.

still oar
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Shemira and brutus as Frontline
Tasi mehira and ezzih as backline @winter glacier
Play around with the arts
Probably call on mehira and blade on tasi. Chalice on ezzih, eye on brutus and grace on tasi

grand dragon
pale kettle
fierce kayak
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@pale kettle nemora middle back charm fareal. Reset if charm fails

strong dome
sacred spear
#

Hi im new, any hero good for beginner?

blissful bay
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also new-ish somewhat struggling ( going through lvls currently through brute forces [ ultimate ability])

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is mirael good? and to what extent?

still oar
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Yes she is @blissful bay. Probably up to chapter 10 or 11 since she is only L tier

Try check pinned message in #classic-questions @sacred spear

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Try athalia or any other targeted cc ferael @pale kettle

sterile canyon
copper moon
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@sterile canyon
Try

Tasi
---- Nemora
Arden
---- Brutus
Belinda

Make sure Tasi has a lower defense than Arden

fierce kayak
sterile canyon
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Will do, thanks @copper moon

glacial brook
#

whatโ€™s best line up against soren

broken egret
woven prawn
#

Hey guys I just started playing yesterday. Any suggestion what I should go for in my lineup?
Are the tree or the rat worth using?

ionic jackal
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@woven prawn you're still early, you'll get more heroes, when most of your heroes still elite it's better to get the formation bonus on your lineup. Example for now you can just use your 3 maulers to get that stat bonus

woven prawn
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@ionic jackal Thanks for the advice :) so I'd put in vruk or what his name is. Should I upgrade him to a certain level or maybe even just leave him at 1?

ionic jackal
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@woven prawn only level up 5 heroes, you can reset Ira and level up vurk instead

dark current
woven prawn
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Ahh okay, thank you very much! :)
Of the 3 ,shimera, Brutus and saveas, what should the lvl up priority be? I heard saveas as high as possible but then, shimera over Brutus or the other way around?

ionic jackal
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@woven prawn Saveas first then Brutus

woven prawn
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Alright :)

ionic jackal
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Once you got more elite+ heroes lvl up prioritization will be a bit different but saveas (as your carry possibly) will still be the highest

shy crag
valid furnace
vale kraken
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U guys probably just lack better gears

sterile canyon
vale kraken
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Put ur best mage boots on arden and swap him in for athalia

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If ur arden can outspeed enemy nemora, it should be doable

pale kettle
vale kraken
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Use lorsan to double ur ult damages

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Use rosa to amplify your damage further

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Buffs and debuffs mann

pale kettle
#

Its an amazing, Kelthur defeated him!

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I tried earlier the both suggestions and it didnt worked.

fiery perch
#

Sorry for the repost but someone offered me some advice regarding an ascension question I asked, for the life of me i can't find the post!!

drowsy grail
next flame
orchid egret
tulip yacht
dreamy mirage
#

Struggling to clear 11-40 any suggestions?

rain oriole
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Shemira isnt gonna do much when she is underlevelled. Have you tried using Lucius alongside Brutus and sav at the back, or, Tasi or Rowan at the back instead of Shem.

dreamy mirage
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I'll try lucious again, move shemira back to give her time for the ultimate but still not enough.

idle oriole
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@dreamy mirage try put nemora on the side somewhere to charm either morvus or mirael

valid furnace
devout idol
autumn harness
clear saddle
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@devout idol I believe i beat that stage using:

Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi

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the aim for you is to charm the enemy arden so that he root his own team

pale kettle
wise merlin
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@pale kettle Nemora instead of Nara, charm Arden, if she can't charm before he roots, put Lyca instead of Thoran.

pale kettle
#

Okay

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The charm goes on ulmus :(

wise merlin
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A few refreshes and it'll eventually hit Arden. ^^

pale kettle
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Yes, I did that, and Arden got charmed and stunned the enemy team but that wasnt enough, thing is that Tasi stuns my Isabella so she cant do anything and when she wakes up they killed everyone else and they group-kill her

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:(

clear saddle
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@pale kettle That stage is tough because your main carry is isabella, and you have faction disadvantage against all of them

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I used shem 240 instead of isa

pale kettle
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Ah... i understand

My shemira only rarely gives good results even when she was higher level than isa, thats why now i use her as tank/support

bold coral
clear saddle
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So I ran:

Arden
Shem
Tasi
Estrilda
Lyca

pale kettle
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Mh hm

clear saddle
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Estrilda is good against ulmus, but brutus will work fine for you

pale kettle
#

If I borrow a mercenary high level, which one should I take

clear saddle
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Honestly you should be fine if you just reset isabella and take shem up

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aw damn

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I got the screenshot of what i used though, post it in a sec

pale kettle
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But reset doesnt reset signature items

clear saddle
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Oh like signature items?

pale kettle
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Yes that

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Isa is lv22 while shem lv10

clear saddle
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Shouldn't make much of a difference

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Just giving you what i used to beat it ๐Ÿ˜„

pale kettle
#

Okay... clock of dura on shemira?

clear saddle
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I put blade on shem

pale kettle
#

That doesnt work well.... that works less good than with isa ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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๐Ÿ˜ข ๐Ÿ˜ญ

clear saddle
#

Really?

iron kelp
pale kettle
#

@clear saddle yes really

clear saddle
#

Sorry, not really well-versed in isabella carry

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Let me look a little more at what you have

pale kettle
#

My own heroes + mercenaries I can take tomorrow

clear saddle
#

Maybe something like:

Lyca
Thoran
Isabella
Brutus
Athalia?

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or if your top lane dies too fast

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swap lyca for nemora maybe

pale kettle
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Mmh

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Something started to work about

Isa
Lyca
Fawkes
Brutus
Nemora

But sadly my fawkes dies too fast due to lyca being oneshoted despite having the best gear possible, and so he releases tasi, but that was working = i could kill 2 or 3 of them before dying

clear saddle
#

Yeah, that stage is a tough one

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Maybe if you could merc a thoran?

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he's a beast of a tank if you can get him to ult

real palm
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@copper moon on 22-15 who did u have athalia stun

orchid egret
copper moon
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@real palm what do you mean Athalia was just there to distract Tasi so she couldn't Banish

real palm
#

Ok ty

tropic marsh
pale kettle
#

Thoran dies fast too. Maybe I just have to wait until my heroes are more powerful maybe ?

plucky summit
clear saddle
#

Apart from that, wait for more copies on the rest of them

pale kettle
#

She cant, belinda no 2 doesnt have yellow borders

plucky summit
#

Ah thanks sorry for wrong server

clear saddle
#

np

plucky summit
#

Yeah need 1 more elite Belinda for A

clear saddle
#

oh shit

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yeah

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sorry

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missed the frame

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just wait for now

plucky summit
#

I can ascend one of the l+ to m

clear saddle
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Just wait for more copies first

plucky summit
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With a mirael (at the bottom)