#lineup-help

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clear saddle
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Could replace her with brutus if she dies too fast

last kestrel
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Thanks! I'll try

shadow girder
clear saddle
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@last kestrel What is this for by the way?

last kestrel
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Campaign

clear saddle
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@shadow girder what relics do you have?

shadow girder
clear saddle
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Honestly, you could just finish the fight, use a tear and have all your heroes at full energy

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Then your belinda will be able to completely/almost completely clear the top backline

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You could also swap saveas for ezizh since belinda will be your main damage

shadow girder
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Yeah I’m guessing that’s how I gotta do it. I find ezizh dies before he even gets to do his hypnosis or bomb

clear saddle
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It's not so much for that, but for the hypogean buffs

shadow girder
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Hmmm maybe, I’ll keep trying. If nothing works I’ll just use a tear

clear saddle
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i mean, tears are meant to be used, no point in saving them

shadow girder
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Well I was saving them for when I get to hard mode or whatever, or if it was a high stakes situation in the lategame since tears don’t seem particularly renewable

clear saddle
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Honestly, hard mode is a huge step up. I only clear hard mode reliably with meta setup (Shem + Wilders + Brutus)

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You need good and consistent AoE Damage which shem provides

copper moon
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@vivid creek
Try

Fawkes
---- Hogan
Mehira
---- Lucius
Belinda

tawny night
noble turtle
still oar
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Try swap Arden and shemira positions if he got interupted a lot @tawny night

limpid quail
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@noble turtle try arden for estrilda

novel adder
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@noble turtle ^^
If it doesnt work, also try moving saveas top side.. i think its better to prioritize killing niru and isabella. safiya for bonus and buff also would be pretty good

noble turtle
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@limpid quail @novel adder I have tried both, unfortunately, they seem to just plow through my front line and into the back quickly.

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maybe i just need to level up more?

novel adder
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yeah you can keep trying for lucky crits or stuff but leveling would be good

noble turtle
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thats current lineup

limpid quail
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switch your frontline also, brutus roar helps saveas to shred the niru

noble turtle
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Woooo!!! lucky crits! thank you both!

limpid quail
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👍

true portal
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hey guys how many free shemiras will the game give u?

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ive been a bit lucky with pulling her and i want to know if i should keep buying her in lab in case later down the path the game will give me some more free copies. Im on chapter 12 now with5 copies of shemira

novel adder
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@true portal 2. divine realm peaks of time and chapter 15 completion.. but next time ask in #classic-questions 🙂 so aim for 8.. if you have not gotten both then only one more is needed

true portal
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thank you for your help!!

hidden stone
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Faction tower

novel adder
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@hidden stone you dont really have much options.. we cant really suggest much. the very least you can try is putting silvina and vedan on your crystal.

hidden stone
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Hell yeah threw vedan in crystal and he actually did somthing

wind escarp
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anyone here reach chapter 30 and what heroes he used.?

raw trail
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So uh, im a bit late to this, barely doing voyage, at the end practically, what am i even supposed to do here?

novel adder
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@raw trail its not an easy stage without good relics.. best is to restart check relics and only run when there are good ones.. generally damage is what you need.. fire/ice bringer is one of the best combinations but will take a while to roll for.. your team looks alright for it.. maybe also have a full charged shemira instead of saveas for the aoe.

raw trail
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I had been using a line up of
Shem
Rosa
Rowan
Lucius
Saveas
I only switched it up a bit because rosaline died immediately here

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But yeah ill give rolling for better relics a try

novel adder
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@raw trail also have a full charged tasi ready as an option.. might at least stop instant frontline annihilation

limber slate
fickle loom
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on the topic of that stage...i nearly forgot I’ve been stuck there for days as well. think this is possible at all? i feel like i barely have a chance even if i restart, so few relics really hurts.

onyx blaze
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@fickle loom its easy if u can get fire/ice bringer

fickle loom
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is it really? I barely make it to half as is...:| one stampede and team is gone

spring sleet
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18-40; any suggestions? I'm quite stuck. I'm keen to end this chapter and hopefully get my 5th mythic. Any assistance would be appreciated.

onyx blaze
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@fickle loom u can restart and just look at the relics when u get firebringer & icebringer go for it

fickle loom
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what’s even behind that wall and is it worth restarting to get two in three relics >_>

novel adder
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@limber slate your case is kinda tricky.. lightbearer should be a good pull for you but i'd look to help your wilders a little.. the issue with your wilders is that you have an excess of fodder but not enough ascendeds.. i'd recommend maybe investing factions and tavern cards for at least one more lyca so you have an outlet to ascend to M and beyond.. buying nemora or seirus from lab also is a backup plan but will take a while.
At this point you should be aiming for L+ fodder for lights for belinda to go to M+.. and then prepare your roster for 5 M above.. so belinda and lucius make 2.. then best is to get one from each of the other factions.. that will allow you access to 180 crystal.

pale kettle
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@spring sleet Lica Arden Tasi/Nemora

onyx blaze
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@fickle loom only u can decied if it´s worth, pretty sure it was 5 common scrolls

fickle loom
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guess there’s not much I can do team/lineup wise to improve my chances beyond relic restarting then? :/ oh well thanks I guess.

novel adder
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@fickle loom its possible.. if you have a mehira you can try with your current set of relics..
So you alternate tasi and mehira ults to lock them down.. but damage is very much needed in this. which is why fire/ice is pretty great.. but damage in general is good.. so crit damage relic, mage damage (since shem is ur main) will be good.. also put shem in the backline.. skreg has damage reduction if you are in melee range..

spring sleet
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@pale kettle thanks I'll have a go.

fickle loom
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oh, i did not know that about skreg, i generally put shem as tank because my dps was saveas. no mehira (god she’s so good when i try her in camps) but let me try moving focus to shem dmg and see if i get closer before i bother restarting. thank!

carmine cloud
limpid quail
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@carmine cloud you want to level the 5 heroes with the highest ascension tier and put the others in the chrystal so you dont get stuck on leveling because you are missing copies.
I would go for saveas, he is the most reliable early game carry. ezizeh is a hero you absolutly shouldnt level because he is really rare to obtain.

carmine cloud
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And which heroes i should generally use and swap out? Iz ezizh strong due to +30% defense? What about twins?

limpid quail
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the twins are really good support, but even harder to obtain (ezizh is in the challenger shop at least). you lineup can be
saveas/shemira
lucius
arden
estrilda
twins/belinda

carmine cloud
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Ok, will try it out. Thank you!

deft wharf
white perch
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Stuck here, anything to pass this chapter? I should have enough power but can't take down :(

pulsar breach
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Put arden top

ionic scaffold
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Not looking for help on this stage in particular, but would it be worth it to get Belinda to L+ and use her as my carry instead of Saveas, or does Saveas still outclass her? The only other heroes I use besides Rosaline are Fawkes and Arden for reference.

white perch
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btw i can do some promotion, whats worth it ? should i wait a lucius to go mythical ? hendrick go leg + ? shamira mythical now ? lyca to leg ?

pulsar breach
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Shemira > Lucius

white perch
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arden top dont trigger its roots sadly

quiet falcon
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Need help to pass this one 😪 tried many different stuff with arden aswell

ionic jackal
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@quiet falcon I can only think lucius, shemira, lyca, tasi, Arden. Hopefully you can cancel brutus' early roar with Arden root or luc' cc

limpid quail
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@deft wharf put 2 dd against ulmus and maybe add in some cc supporter like tasi/arden

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@ionic scaffold saveas is still better imo

violet pine
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I am now qualified for lineup-help

If you have a nara use it

deft wharf
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@limpid quaili am playing this game for almost half a year. Dont have a single copy of Tasi😂

limpid quail
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@deft wharf iirc there was one in a voyage of wonders chest, you missed your opportunity there 😄

white perch
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any help for my lineup ? possible ascension ?

sour fjord
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What should i do with that fuckiing clock ?? Last man standing

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The fabled forest

cerulean hamlet
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Restart until you get better rng perhaps? Maybe take out nemora for something that would give you more damage too since you already have lucius for healing.

vale kraken
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Grab fire/icebringer / poison relic
Firebringer is a must have
Ice bringer for shemira burst
And poison relic coz u have a stall team (heals/barriers). Poison relic ignores the pesky 40% damage reduction of the skreggs

cerulean hamlet
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That's the camp after the skregs (Orthos + Zolrath) :p I'm guessing their relics are pretty good so then it's just damage to out-dps his healing.

vale kraken
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Oh lol. Always thought its thes skregg fight peeps worry about

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Do almost twice the damage to both enemies

delicate kiln
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Trying to decide on my legendary. Still trying to get those skregs down. Any suggestions? Using brutus and lucius up front shem nem and belinda in back

limpid quail
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blessed hammer for damage

vale kraken
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Reset till u get firebringer mann, ice bringer wont cut it

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U wont survive the first stampede

delicate kiln
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I just reset 38 times to get icebringer so i’m at least going to attempt it lol

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Hoping lucius and nem together with shem can do it. If not i’ll go for both bringers. So any other suggestions on the legendary? Or should I go hammer?

vale kraken
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Hammer for more burst i guess

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Silent hope could also work so u could stack bringer faster. Then again no fire, so kinds fruitless there

delicate kiln
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Yea I couldn’t decide between the 2 so

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Not entirely fruitless though i’m borrowing a shem with call on it and my lucius has call on it as well soooo 1 last time. Hammer or hope

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If it doesn’t work i’ll be resetting for both bringers so. Not a huge deal I guess either way

void dock
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Fire bringer is a must bruh...
Except u have a tons of healer

delicate kiln
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Well it almost worked. Lol so both bringers. Any suggestion on a line up to go with it?

void dock
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I barely survived with nemora rowan luci 😂 😂

cerulean hamlet
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The main part of the lineup is generally shemira, then mostly any decent comp like meta or something around it should work. Maybe Rosa + Rowan on shem to make her ult more and apply debuffs faster but otherwise not really.

delicate kiln
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Well i’m resetting now to get them both. And I have a rosa that can survive but rowan is a little lacking definitely have shem

vale kraken
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Made it with seirus. Fastest bringer stacker in the west

cerulean hamlet
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If you do have a seirus having his ult ready will indeed help too. Rowan/Rosa don't really need to be ascended much, just be able to pop their ults and buff shemira.

vale kraken
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As for the next fight, the two bosses, use lorsan for ez win

delicate kiln
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Well unfortunately I do not have a seirus. And I had a terrible guild when I first joined so i’m lacking in a lot of characters. My only ascended is nemora. Then I have like 6 mythic+ a few mythic and leg+ I also don’t have lorsan yet but my rosa is mythic so I know I can use her for buffing shem

small acorn
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@sour fjord try fawkes ult, dispells his self heal im pretty sure

delicate kiln
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I have a leg+ fawkes. Sad part is before I even ascended my nem I breezed through this voyage until these skregs 😂

small acorn
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Nemora is useless on skregs

cerulean hamlet
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It doesn't dispel it. No more than it dispels chalice healing.

small acorn
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Its all dps for skregs

frigid tapir
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Hey guys! I was wondering wich lineup would you use based on these guys, being at 12-30 and my front lane seems pretty weak that they die in 2 hits

vale kraken
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Try lb/wilder mix team. Or no bonus team with a saveas in it @frigid tapir

small acorn
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@cerulean hamlet fawkes dispelled orthos self heal in my battle, its how i won. I was suprised

cerulean hamlet
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Huh, interesting.

ember bane
vale kraken
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Dunno man, maybe use a lorsan

small acorn
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@ember bane have you tried brutus into serius?

steel patrol
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I’ve previously done 484k damage with this team.

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Aside from the heroes you can see, I also have Seirus just out of frame at lvl 101

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Thanks very much in advance

lofty depot
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@steel patrol I'd replace Saveas with Shem and replace either Nemora or Lucius with Lyca

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Also remove Brutus for Gwyneth maybe. I'd use Lucius instead of Nemora

ember bane
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@small acorn yes I have tried
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
tasi
But don't work well for me

lofty depot
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@steel patrol

Try this:

Gwyneth
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca

hidden stone
ashen schooner
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@hidden stone Try
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lucius

hidden stone
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Arden gets 1 shot by slivina

ashen schooner
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Remove all gear from Nemora

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Put the better gear on the Arden

pale kettle
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All my guys legit just get one hit idk what to do

swift crescent
pale kettle
manic steeple
distant grail
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@manic steeple you need luck with relics

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Fire and ice relics and you should be fine

swift crescent
iron kelp
shell hamlet
true portal
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@faint bay reset ur archer, put tarsi on and swap arden to bottom

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always put arden facing saveas to root him, tarsi will help banish as well

faint bay
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3 supports on the back row?

true portal
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also your saveas level could be higher, pump xp into him until hes max

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support level is not as important as front line. Yeah 3 supports

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tarsi also heal as well, people tend to forget

faint bay
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ye i just got my level block unblocked so im getting saveas to a higher level, do i reset ira and get him to 150ish?

true portal
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yep. Saveas only stand out when he is overleveled and max gears. His dodge will start to shine

faint bay
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alright ty

true portal
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might want to swap the saveas with brutus as well, position wise so the nemora wont mind control him

faint bay
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i will do that in abit, ill tell you how it went

true portal
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yeah let us know if it works 👌

faint bay
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@true portal it worked like a charm ty

true portal
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yeah the bois

faint bay
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should that be my main lineup u reckon?

split onyx
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Who are the top 5 tanks?

true portal
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@faint bay until you ascend Shemira

faint bay
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alright

true portal
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future meta team is shemira front and/or Brutus/Lucius. 3 back support either Arden/Lyca/Tarsi or Rowan/Rosaline/Fawkes. Wilder support push content harder bc of disable. Light Bearer support melt bosses

cerulean hamlet
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There isn't really a fixed "top 5", but generally the two best are Lucius and Brutus then other notable ones would be Thoran, Grezhul, Kaz and such @split onyx

true portal
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@split onyx shemira is also a semi tank post 161. Kaz with signature wep and over leveled also do well

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but yeah generally @cerulean hamlet is right

pale kettle
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Any suggestions or screenshots from 22-28? Ping me a dm or @ me here. Thanks

split onyx
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This is what i have atm. Not at 160 yet. Trying for some synergy but i dont think i have the horses yet.

true portal
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@split onyx do you have more saveas? If not focus on making one legend+ asap. He is your best dps/tank pre 160. Find one pump all your resources on him and put him front. A possible line up is Saveas (over leveled, best gears) and Groot front. Nemora, Arden, Lorsan back for the 4 wilders bonus

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Lorsan over kaz as he’s a better support. His shield can make your saveas live longer, his link turns your saveas single target to double. He doesnt need greats gears to do well

split onyx
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Damn, no she?

true portal
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she’s not great before 161, unless you only have mythic gears for mage and not agi gears

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try it, lmk how it goes

split onyx
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Ok I will thanks @true portal I

true portal
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you can also make your arden leg+. I think you should. He’s one of the strongest epic wilder. His roots is crazy. And after that you can still use him as food for better wilders

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imo arden is the best epic unit in the game. You’ll use him for a long time

steel patrol
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@lofty depot thank you! I will try those combos

brittle forum
alpine jolt
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  1. Lucius
  2. Brutus
  3. Belinda
  4. Arden
  5. Tasi

@brittle forum

brittle forum
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Ok thx

split onyx
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@true portal how?sac my other Arden and second groot?

alpine jolt
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@split onyx dont use ascended heroes as fodder

split onyx
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Oh talking about later, I thought @true portal wastalking about leg+ now

true portal
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@split onyx oh i meant you have two epic+ copies of your arden. If you have enough wilder fodders you should leg+ him now. Don’t use ascended heroes as fodder, only if you have enough regular fodders tho

brittle forum
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@alpine jolt its not working

sharp hornet
brittle forum
sharp hornet
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@brittle forum follow instructions above it may take a ton of tries to get the right rng

frosty magnet
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Switch Shem for Fawkes to get 3-2 faction bonus

mossy solar
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Having lots of trouble beating this Chief camp in the last bit of the Fabled Forrest, any tips?

turbid jay
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@mossy solar you need to outscale them. Just play and on the last day fight them

mossy solar
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Thanks @turbid jay that was my conclusion as well, just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something. Thanks again!

fierce kayak
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@lapis crystal reset Shem, and keep leveling Sav to 120. Then Brutus next. More info in pinned.

floral lotus
fierce kayak
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@floral lotus use Arden and make him L+ 141 for 3 roots disable. Try to use nemora bait silv by removing his gear.. Else try
Arden/nemora (silv bait)
Brutus
Lyca
Sav
Arden/nemora

Read pinned at #classic-questions

brittle forum
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This is insane

broken egret
marble hawk
broken egret
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@marble hawk with your power and levels would say it's possible tbu

marble hawk
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Used to use Athalia instead of Brutus for faction bonus.

broken egret
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Try
Beli
Lyca
Tasi
Brut
Arden
Make sure your arden roots faster than his. If that doesn't happen give him better boots

marble hawk
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Thanks, will try!

broken egret
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@cursive sparrow not sure if someone already helped but try.
Nem
Shem
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Have call on tasi and make sure nem charm fareal

mystic junco
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Hi ! Im stuck at 6-36 and stage 80 on the tower x( can someone help me?

marble hawk
fresh drift
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Can I get some help here?

cerulean whale
floral cargo
sweet pasture
floral cargo
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ME TOO

novel adder
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@mystic junco i'd try
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Estrilda..
But probably needs some levels.

floral cargo
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@novel adder can ya help us? We stuck on 11-38

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Me and bruv :):))

novel adder
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@fresh drift
I cant see your full roster.. but based on what you have.. i'd try
Saveas
Ulmus
Vedan
Seirus
Ira.

fresh drift
novel adder
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@cerulean whale try maybe
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Morvus/Rosaline.
Im not too sure.. needs some rng to work i think.. but could just be levels you don

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@floral cargo i'd try
Belinda
Brut
Isabella
Estrilda
Athalia/rowan

floral cargo
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Lemme see

novel adder
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@sweet pasture
Saveas
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
I think you probably need to keep the estrilda morvus locked

tropic agate
plush gate
tropic agate
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Put a bait for silvina and brutus in front of grezhul (and fawkes to catch shemira) I've done that

sweet pasture
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That got my close @novel adder I think I can win with rng

novel adder
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may the odds be in your favour

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@tropic agate can your charm go through?

tropic agate
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No there are arden's roots

vagrant goblet
old ore
novel adder
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@plush gate put estrilda on her.. the initial knock negates the jump damage..
Probably something like
Shemira
Estrilda
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

vagrant goblet
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@old ore i’d try to frontline the shem, remove Hogan and put in Arden

old ore
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My Arden is a bit weak, although I'll try to enhance some gear

vagrant goblet
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@old ore put on the gear from Belinda perhaps

old ore
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Well, i tried it out, instead of getting 5teambanged, i managed to kill the vedan...

vagrant goblet
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@old ore give it some tries and move your pieces around

novel adder
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@tropic agate i need you to test lyca frontline..
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi/Arden or whoever..
Best boots on nemora.. see if the charm passes through.. try a few times.. as long as you see someone get charmed means its possible.. then rng for charming the arden..
Otherwise you can try nara on arden to interrupt him

tropic agate
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my tasi is only E and my Lyca don't tank so much

old ore
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@vagrant goblet that was magic my friend, thanks. Arden came out useless, but at least he distracted silv enough. Thank you

novel adder
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@vagrant goblet i'd try with backline swap to
Lyca
Arden
Nemora

Arden needs to root khasos as a priority

tropic agate
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I'll try

sterile loom
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What is the ferael meta team?

novel adder
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@tropic agate you need to rng for some lyca dodges.. but the main thing is charming arden.

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@sterile loom high chapters its difficult to have a specific meta.. you run what you can depending on the opponent.. the reason why ferael is useful over shem in many instances then is because his damage is not gated behind his ult like shemira.. shemira struggles on high early burst opponents like athalia and thane.. but lategame optimal teams are very fluid actually

sterile loom
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Thanks for the thoughtful answer. I'm at ch 21, strategizing for late game

sterile hill
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super stuck at chap 10 i have no tanks my whole team crumbles. is it bad luck with pulls?

novel adder
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@sterile hill looks more like a level thing 🙂

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just afk and levels i think.. its quite normal due to going the overleveled carry method

sterile hill
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@novel adder thank you. i feel like the no tanks thing is gonna be a problem from now on... shemira can hold up but who do i place frontline? should i buy khasos from the lab and make him my tank?

novel adder
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@sterile hill nah..id focus your lab buys on shemira and nemora for now..
hogan will be fine for now... khasos will drop the same as any others you have.. you can try to buy time by hard cc like arden and tasi.. brutus will generallylastthe longest on low levels.. you get him from finishing chapter 14 so when that happens u can use him..

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sometimes you can get away with saveas front too..

sterile hill
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my current team is saveas hogan front tasi rowan arden back. rowan is hard carrying me with its potions. i do have heroes on the crystal but if i try to use elite heroes they just drop like flies. like lucius instadies.

novel adder
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yup its fine. its quite normal.. its the nature of pushing to a stage you cant beat

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you look on track

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Also there's CS nicky is streaming now and accepting questions/lineup problems

stark quartz
misty raven
runic crystal
misty raven
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Nvm. I got mine figured out

royal latch
digital field
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Level 8-12, tried every combination I can think of , can’t even come close , is it a level thing or am I missing something

royal latch
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try this:

Raine
Brutus
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi

?

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maybe Warek instead of Raine

limpid grail
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I think Lucius will get killed before his ult. Maybe Brutus, Thoran, Belinda, Nemora, Shemira. Definitely try and get Shemira to E+. You could also reset Saveas and put him in the crystal and try Brutus, Warek, Saveas, Nemora, Tasi.

pale kettle
mystic junco
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I think I was ignored, you answered everyone but not me x(

spring lily
wicked pelican
royal latch
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just dont use Tasi lol. use like Khasos instead

shell hamlet
limpid quail
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@mystic junco sorrowin gave you an answer at 6:14

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@spring lily try
tasi
lucius
lyca
shemira
nemora

sweet pasture
limpid quail
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@wicked pelican try shemira opposite ulmus and arden bot

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@shell hamlet who is silvana jumping? try
nemora
brutus
arden
lyca
saveas

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@sweet pasture switch brutus and saveas and try tasi for nemora

shell hamlet
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@limpid quail not working brutus and sac stay alive and my sav is the only one left

limpid quail
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where is silvana jumping?

faint bay
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any tips?

limpid quail
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@faint bay try
saveas
brutus
rowan
hogan
arden

faint bay
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alright

faint bay
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@limpid quail didnt work all of them alive still, but the closest i got was 3 alive so maybe i just need to do a little bit of leveling up

limpid quail
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@faint bay leveling up does always help^^

faint bay
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yup

limpid quail
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you can also try to mirror the lineup and see how it goes...hogan/arden top, brutus/saveas bot

brittle forum
idle oriole
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@brittle forum don't use arden as tank xd

foggy crane
brittle forum
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Lol

foggy crane
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Suggestions?

brittle forum
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@idle oriole then who I use

full island
idle oriole
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@brittle forum
Rosaline
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Athalia

brittle forum
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@idle oriole thx

subtle moss
idle oriole
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Reset Ira, ogi, ankhira and khasos @subtle moss only level up 5 heroes and put the rest in crystal

subtle moss
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ooh okay

idle oriole
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Also remove golus from the crystal he's not that good imo..

subtle moss
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gotcha gotcha

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gwyneth is the other hero i'm using rn so should i reset/crystal ulmus or?

idle oriole
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Yes reset him

subtle moss
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nice, thanks

idle oriole
#

👌

limpid quail
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@subtle moss consider also resetting shemira and nara for now, cause they are already at their level cap right now. start leveling legendary tier heroes for the beginning as they are way easier to obtain and upgrade

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@subtle moss there is a guide in #classic-questions pinned messages, you may want to read through that

subtle moss
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oh nice! okay thanks, i didn't think about shemira and nara being at cap already, that's a good point

brittle forum
limpid quail
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@brittle forum arden for athalia

lofty depot
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@idle oriole No need for two DPS, remove Saveas. Also a VERY good combo is Mehira + Shemira.

Try removing Saveas, put Lyca front, Arden down and Mehira middle backline

sweet pasture
idle oriole
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@lofty depot thx 👍will try now

mystic junco
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Thanks ! @Sorrowin

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@Fultsch#6786 @Sorrowin#7353 Thanks ! And sorry for the late reply

idle oriole
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@lofty depot tyvm it worked after some retries 🙌

lofty depot
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@idle oriole No problem. You should really try getting Tasi as well. Tasi + Mehira + Shem is an extremely deadly combo

outer burrow
idle oriole
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@lofty depot yea sad I've never pulled a tasi or even Lucius 😓

lofty depot
#

You're using ALL your faction scrolls on Wilders right? @idle oriole

idle oriole
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Yea I'm waiting for Wilder day again

lofty depot
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Ok good keep doing that and you'll get her eventually, I'm waiting for reset so I can use my faction scrolls haha. I need 2 more Lyca and then I can make both Nemora and Lyca M+

cerulean hamlet
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@outer burrow Either same as you currently have but swap khasos for shemira

1.5 lucius out for grezh khasos for shemira.

  1. Fawkes Tasi Nemora Lucius Ulmus/Thane.
idle oriole
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Dayum 😍

lofty depot
outer burrow
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@cerulean hamlet ight thx, i just swapped khasos for shemira tho lol cause shes not as good anymore at these levels

cerulean hamlet
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Shemira is almost always good in PvP, I don't think khasos is as good but maybe change up support to LB support if those are decently ascended? Also I should note 2 is a team for defense. It's not as good at winning as not losing.

idle oriole
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I only learnt how to summon properly recently so my fodder is all messed up which screws up my progress 🤦‍♂️

lofty depot
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You only have 3 L so you're good

full island
#

sorry for asking, but "summon properly"? I am a new player so no clue 😅

lofty depot
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@full island He means to use faction scrolls for Wilders, only summon with 2700 gems and Never to ascend a hero to only L, you go from E+ to L+ instantly or you wait until you can

full island
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oh ok thank you

lofty depot
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Also never never use an Ascended tier hero as fodder for another hero

full island
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good that you mention it, was about to use my satrana as fooder 😄 thanks a lot

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any suggestions for me?

lofty depot
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@full island Get Shem to 161 then stop using Saveas as Shem will carry from there. Idk how helpful Brutus will be yet (he's very good later) but try putting him in the crystal, you don't need him for damage but his invincibility will save your heroes for a few extra seconds

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Athalia is not good that early on either. You also want the highest Ascended heroes in the crystal to raise the level cap of the others so I'd reset Athalia and put the levels into Hogan instead (for now) until later

full island
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ye Athalia was an early mistake. i will try out brutus and see how he goes. Get Saveas to 161 first or directly push for Shem? Thanks a lot for the help, rly appreciated

lofty depot
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I doubt you'll get her to L or even less L+ so leveling her manually will hinder your progress.

Use Saveas for now. When Shem gets to 141 you can maybe switch to her but she starts to get really good at 161 and that's when you can completely remove Saveas but you need her in M to get her to 161

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Also make sure you ONLY buy Shem for you lab coins to get her to 161 as fast as possible as she will carry you to like chapter 22

full island
#

will do thanks

split nebula
#

Thoughts on who I should be leveling?

lofty depot
#

@split nebula First of all you should only ever level 5 heroes

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Secondly only level the 5 highest Ascended heroes to avoid capping your crystal, for example Shemira is E and Baden is E+ but you're leveling her but not him = Level cap will be 100

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And as I mentioned above, use your lab coins to buy Shemira, use Saveas as DPS for now and try to get Shem to 161 as fast as possible and then you can remove Saveas

split nebula
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I just didn't want to invest into leveling until I knew who was decent! But yeah I didn't bother to reset Shem, just leaving her on the side since I know she will be on my team eventually

lofty depot
#

And then just keep summoning and see what you get, I see you have 6.5k un-used gems

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I'd reset Rosaline then since you're more likely to use Shem and Lucius

split nebula
#

Should I dump all gems into summoning?

lofty depot
#

Yes, only the 2700 summon

split nebula
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Okay thanks!

lofty depot
#

I need to go but scroll up and you'll see what I told the other guys about what heroes to use and who to not fodder etc

sweet pasture
livid arch
#

Lucian and kaz frontline?

worthy grove
tranquil ether
#

Wait every day to level up

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Or level up the armor

vagrant marten
restive mauve
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@pale kettle swap in tasi for rowan. put arden behind shemira. if that wont work, swap arden+shem to bottom.

i think, i gave shemira the artifact which fill up energy and tasi the one where she gains a shield from using her ultimate. it took multiple retries though

pale kettle
#

That worked, though Tasi never got her ult off. Had to retry quite a few times to get Ardens CC on the right guys.

sweet pasture
faint bay
#

@sweet pasture i have the set up and leveling a bit like yours what stage are you in may i ask

sweet pasture
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11-40

honest storm
toxic flame
pale kettle
toxic flame
#

@sweet pasture maybe not unwinnable. Try a team with faction advantage

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@sweet pasture maybe
Fawkes
Lucius
Belinda/saveus
Brutus
Rowan/rosa

Or something like that

pale kettle
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D: wb 8-20

sweet pasture
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ok ill try thanks jt

olive compass
viral timber
#

22-42 for the ones interested / looking for inspiration. call on rosa, blade on shem, chalice on lucius and grace on rowan

copper moon
olive compass
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@copper moon I don’t have Row. Who do I replace her with?

copper moon
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@olive compass didn't grab Rowan from Voyage?

olive compass
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Nope

copper moon
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@olive compass no clue then

olive compass
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Dang, thanks anyways!

copper moon
#

@olive compass reset Numisu and Estrilda and make Shemira 240 might make the stage alot easier

olive compass
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Can’t do that. Need 5 Lv200 units

copper moon
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@olive compass meant Numisu and Nemora

olive compass
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Yeah, but the problem still remains. I can’t get Shemira to 240, unless I have 5 Lv200 units. Otherwise, the max will be 220, aka what it is right now.

copper moon
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@olive compass resetting Numisu and Nemora to 200 use extra exp to put Estrilda to 200 then you can level Shemira to 240

olive compass
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Hmm

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Yeah, right. I’m a dummy, haha.

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Thanks, buddy! That was a massive help! @copper moon

tawny night
#

How do I beat this? every unit is crowd control Shemira can never Ult

outer burrow
granite chasm
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brutus 1 , Khasos 2 , Safiya 3 , lyca 4 , Erionn 5 @outer burrow

outer burrow
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thx ill try it out

granite chasm
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@outer burrow change lucius to brutus for faction bonus

pale kettle
#

Hey, is there a better lineup ?

Should I auto this level or use manual and if manual, when to use abilities ?

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Should I change artifacts ?

granite chasm
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@pale kettle khasos need to be back at the middle + brutus frontline , i don`t if E khasos can do the job but might work give him Dura Blade + Dura Eye for brutus + Chalice for warek + dura call for Numisu

pale kettle
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I cant use mercenary khasos, have to wait 4 days or something :/

Really ? I have blade on warek and grace on Brutus, I think grace makes him good

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Safiya is useless and no need to give her an artifact ?

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And I can auto all this ?

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Oh well thank you a lot it passed ❤ 💗 ❤ 💜 thx a lot

mossy scroll
#

@pallid lake

frank nimbus
#

Would getting Belinda to mythic help out??

runic crystal
#

Do I do it??? Or hold off? I'm currently using arden in my lineup for his cc

upbeat jay
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hold off 100%

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I have mythic nemora that i can ascend to m+ but im not doing it, arden is the clutch master

teal glade
pale rover
runic crystal
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@pale rover sorry!

pale kettle
royal latch
clear saddle
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@royal latch Usually people go for 240 on their carry first instead of 220 crystal. Can you show all your heroes too?

royal latch
raven spindle
iron kelp
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@raven spindle try

Lyca
Brutus
Nem
Shem
Arden

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you need Nem to charm the Ferael and Arden to root the rest

raven spindle
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Just pulled Ulmus out of Crystal, will replace with Lyca then.

iron kelp
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gear them up properly. it takes rng but it should work. lyca is mainly for the haste

raven spindle
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But thank you for the advice! I’ll need to wait until tomorrow to try it unfortunately, unless I should spend the gems.

iron kelp
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no problem. if it works let me know. cheer

pale kettle
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since they dont habe much CC try something like this :

--- Gwyn
------- Shemira
---- Rowan
------- Thane
---- Tasi

Telle mif it worked, good luck 🙂
@hollow ether

iron kelp
mystic harness
#

Help 4-36

pale kettle
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---- Raine
------- Shemira
---- Kaz
------- Lucius
---- Khasos

@mystic harness

mystic harness
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Will try @pale kettle

pale kettle
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@iron kelp switch brutus and shemiras place, Arden and lyca switch

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good luck @mystic harness

mystic harness
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They still die like flies @pale kettle

pale kettle
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the key is the try and try, once I tried it for over 1 hour semiäafk and then it worked. the enemy stats are rolled each time to face them so you just need to keep battling

mystic harness
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Might afk for now. Even how many swapping I try cant beat it.

pale kettle
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dont let the game rule you life, the life sould rule the game

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Anyone passed this? This making me want to smash my phone RN. Just wtf.

deft goblet
pale kettle
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yes, try to CC tasti @pale kettle

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Imma put it on auto click. It's so annoying to look at the hp and energy keep going up and down.

teal glade
pale kettle
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Ok made it after spamming reset

sour bay
#

Got 1 spot on crystlal to add someone

marble hawk
hasty night
teal glade
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@marble hawk honestly won't make a big difference having an extra ascension. I pulled hyper warek copies rng and an ascended 2 star warek carries me hard. I found mauler tower to be a royal pain without someone hyper carrying

marble hawk
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@teal glade Thanks!

hasty night
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@marble hawk add another teammate, even if its lv 1

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For the team bonus for 5 of the sane faction

marble hawk
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Thanks, didn't want to give the enemy energy for an easy kill, but i guess the bonus is worth it.

hasty night
#

Saveas can front line in a pinch

marble hawk
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@hasty night Thanks, Saveas in the front did the trick!

hasty night
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Np

pale kettle
#

Any suggestions for who I should use ?

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Current lineup

hasty night
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Your team looks fine. Maybe switch saveas and shemira

haughty tide
vagrant goblet
clear saddle
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Arden instead of nemora, and put him middle back

vagrant goblet
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@clear saddle rip.

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@clear saddle somehow got my elite Arden to survive long enough 😂

restive mauve
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@vivid creek put arden in the crystal and swap out either lucius or brutus for him. Put the other one top fronline, saveas bottom and lower bottom arden

pale kettle
#

Aiming for top 10 too . Wanna see how that big tourney looks like.

signal latch
severe solar
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@signal latch have you tried meta team Brutus Shemira tasi Lyca and nemora

signal latch
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I have! They still get overwhelmed by then Grez summons @severe solar

severe solar
limpid quail
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@signal latch tasi ult and shemira ult should kill the summons. shemira front so she can ult faster and tasi with call

signal latch
#

Thanks for the tips guys! I’ll try switching around the gear and relics

unreal storm
limpid quail
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@unreal storm where is silvana jumping?

clear saddle
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@unreal storm Yeah, you need silvina to be jumping tasi. Maybe run something like:

Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

drowsy kite
#

I need help with this stage and golus is my pain I hate him so much

clear saddle
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@drowsy kite maybe run something like:

Rosa
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda

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golus always dies last even at higher levels, so better to focus on killing the others first

ember bane
obtuse cave
wise merlin
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@obtuse cave Hello ^^

Try this formation out :

Belinda
Rowan (as bait)
Silvina
Shemira
Fawkes

Providing 3/2 faction bonus, slight bit of RNG with Estrilda landing crits on your Rowan.

If you've tried at least 5 times and it didn't work, put Rosaline instead of Rowan, providing sustainability to your DPS carry (Shemira, in your case)

quick fractal
placid cradle
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Helloo, is there anyway I can make my set up more efficient?

vagrant goblet
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18-32, any suggestions? If I put in my Arden instead of Nemora he gets 1 shot

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NVM i figures it out

novel adder
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@quick fractal looks pretty good. One minor thing i'd do is swap fawkes and shem position. people tend to try and 'athalia' fawkes.. but if she knocks him far she will target lucius then. which generates his shield really quick.. but its a situational thing. splitting brut damage front and back is not ideal if athalia targets fawkes on bottom side🙂

vagrant goblet
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Figured* I had to swap out the horsey, with Arden and make sure Silvina jumped Nemora stranding behind Brutus so he could tank her

novel adder
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@placid cradle you look pretty good for now.. just level saveas to 120.. try to run with a 3 faction bonus at least and youre good

placid cradle
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Thanks @novel adder !!

vagrant goblet
novel adder
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@vagrant goblet try to charm the arden preferably.
something like
Tasi/arden
Brut
Shem
Lyca
Nemora

pale kettle
#

Help me please 🙏

novel adder
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@pale kettle hmmm rosaline carry.. very interesting. I'd try something like
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Rosaline
Arden

hopefully it works. But in future i think you need to plan your ascensions properly... do read the pinned tips in #classic-questions. Rushed ascensions+too spread out focus ascensions + potentially stuck L heroes is a bad combination.

obtuse cave
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@wise merlin thank you very much :)

ember bane
pale kettle
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Ty ♥️

calm tendon
distant cave
idle oriole
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@distant cave maybe swap shem and tasi or try get Nara in somewhere to grapple them.. Idk

lime hawk
#

Any tips? 14-39 wanna push 14ch clear to get brutus to m+

limpid quail
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@calm tendon try out nemora to charm him, drop silvana

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@distant cave try shemira behind brutus and kill vedan or niru with it

maiden cliff
limpid quail
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@maiden cliff arden for athalia and lyca for lucius or try 4 wilders with shemira -> lyca front line vs ogi

hidden stone
vast plover
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Maybe a Fawkes instead of Henrik put Lucy in front of silvinia Shem in front of grez even try the tasi instead of Rowan or hendrik

teal glade
vagrant goblet
iron kelp
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Brutus shem lyca nem Arden @vagrant goblet. Make sure nem charms Arden

vagrant goblet
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👌 i’ll try

acoustic temple
#

11.38 stuck , if you have the choice between Lucius Legendary or Estrilda Mythique which one would you recommend me to pick ?

lilac dew
wicked nymph
lofty depot
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@wicked nymph try this

Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Shem
Lyca

harsh chasm
floral cargo
vale kraken
#

No good frontline = no progress

floral cargo
#

U want me to put raine as frontline?

forest flume
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You have to kill the 5 enemy heroes belindakiss

tawdry umbra
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U could use shem as frontline even pre 161, but it seems you dont have the good carry ^^

floral cargo
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I never pulled one

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And lab getting too hard at this point and i press on the hard mode last noght

forest flume
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@floral cargo how to progress:

Reset 4 heroes

Make sav 160, arden 141 and others atleast 120

floral cargo
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oh hell naw i'd rather stay stuck til i luckily pass it ntyy

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i aint resetting my isabella and belinda

forest flume
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Sav is way better early game, 3 dps is useless.. but you do you : P

floral cargo
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i can wait to lvl him up to 141 just need 3k dust

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800* dusts just bought some lab dusts and daily store ones

forest flume
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Another tip: never buy dust in Lab store. Only buy ascended tier heroes

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Lab sucks without a good healer. Make sure to use nemora with ur best gear there

floral cargo
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mhmm

pale kettle
distant grail
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@harsh chasm try this
Shem
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Rosa

harsh chasm
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gonna give it a shot bud, should i put the best gear on lucios ?

distant grail
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Yeah, do that

floral cargo
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y'all 11-38 is harder than 11-40 but i need your help with this one xD

loud jewel
fierce kayak
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@loud jewel I would reset Luicus/Grezhul and make Shem 200 first. Also, build a L+ Arden for 3 roots disable

turbid fern
frigid veldt
hollow ether
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@pale kettle sorry for the late reply. it didnt work thane dies within the first 2 secs

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@pale kettle sorry tried it a couple more times and switched pos of shem and thane and finally won

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TY so much

trail olive
sharp hornet
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@trail olive first off of you can reset a hero or 2 and makes saevas 160. Also put tasi, arden and nemora on your crystal.

trail olive
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Who should I reset

sharp hornet
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@turbid fern
Athalia
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Arden

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@trail olive do you not have resonating crystal unlocked yet?

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@turbid fern or you can use
Shem
Lyca
Nemo
Brurus
Tasi

turbid fern
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Thank you @sharp hornet . I'll try the 2nd team as shem gets killed in 2-5 hits (if no crit) from Kaz and doesn't last even if she's CC'd

sharp hornet
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@turbid fern Mythic gears on her yet?

turbid fern
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Yeah, she's full, only the staff as GB M+. sig 22. 2nd formation works better and I'm pretty sure I can pass the stage by try harding

sharp hornet
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@turbid fern also reset Brutus to 200 and make shem 240

turbid fern
#

I can't do that as I need 2 more heros to 200. I don't have enough dust for that which is what I'm working on

sharp hornet
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@turbid fern I always forget what the requirements for levels are, I had everyone at 200 mainly as M+

wind glade
trail olive
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yes

turbid fern
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@sharp hornet No worry, you need all heroes at 200 in crystall to unlock level 221+

sharp hornet
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@wind glade saevas is your carry until shem is 161. She isnt anywhere near as good at 160. Reset her and make saevas 160 again. Then I'd suggest saevas, shem, rowan, lucius and estrilda.

Though you need to get an arden to L+

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@trail olive put people on the crystal then

wind glade
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ty what is arden?

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saevas, shem, rowan, lucius and estrilda get wiped without killing something

sterile loom
#

Any GB/LB lineups that have proven useful late game?

I was thinking Lucius, Belinda, Rowan, grezhul and ferael

karmic wren
#

I am new to the game and I wondered if anyone could give me some advice? I started playing yesterday

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The Reaper guy on the front? He doesn't seem that great.... So I am wondering what 2 frontlines would be good? I think the back lines are fine? But again, I don't know the game very well

novel adder
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@sterile loom that works..but tbh lategame its about flexibility.. you never will have good results if you just run in to any stage with the same comp.

@karmic wren there's a nice pinned post with tips in the #classic-questions channel.. maybe you can start by reading that? if you have any follow up questions we will gladly answer them

elfin cargo
#

Thoughts on level 60 Light / Mauler towers?

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I appear to be way underpowered ;)

copper stirrup
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sevas is too weak for it. Try use Rat or hasos instead of sevas

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and yes, you are a little underpowered... it means you need lvl 180 minions at least.

valid furnace
copper stirrup
elfin cargo
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@copper stirrup cool, yeah was thinking I might need to get to 180. Thanks!

valid furnace
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Hey guys, any advice for stage 10-20? I could get one of my LB to L,but not L+, which one should i ascend? Ty in advance🤔

novel adder
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@elfin cargo yeah you do look underleveled.. lb you can try with
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Estrilda
Fawkes.
but i think 180 will be needed or rent an op lucius or estrilda

mauler 160 with no one over it will be quite tough.. i'd wait til 180 and rent something to help out.

copper stirrup
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@luris first of all do not sacrifice tasi, and lika. anyway you will need nemora+tasi+arden/lika everytime

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@valid furnace So try to focus on main DD (like shemira or belinda) and have at least 1 tank (Grezhul/brutus). Grezhul is pretty easy to obtain from arena

elfin cargo
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@novel adder ok, thanks for the advice. Getting closer to 180s, will wait until then.

lone birch
copper stirrup
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@lone birch Did you tryed arden instead of nemora?

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And what artifacts on shemira/tasi?

lone birch
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@copper stirrup i tried and i didnt work

copper stirrup
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Problem in firael ofc?

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Try to use atalia or nara vs him

lone birch
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i use blade for She and chalice for tasi

novel adder
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@copper stirrup its a super rng stage i believe..
im not sure how your grez stands but you can try other options like brut/khasos
I'd try with
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
Grez/Khasos/Brut
Tasi
The rng you are looking for is nem to charm nem.. and she charms seirus.. but if you can charm seirus and shem doesn't get charmed its good.

lone birch
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both of them are just R 😦

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E

copper stirrup
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ed , it's fine. The main edvantage to stop casting firael fear spell in first 2-3 seconds

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@novel adder yea yea.. tryed like 50-70 times nothing helps... maybe i must take huge brutus from friends.

placid cradle
digital shuttle
copper stirrup
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@placid cradle first of all you have NO bonuses from you party member. Try to get at least +3

lone birch
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@copper stirrup thanks for the advice. Maybe i'm just too weak to pass :(((

novel adder
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@lone birch Id try
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Lucius/Estrilda/Brutus
Lyca

As is common sense that shem shouldn't be getting hit by saveas or ferael.. BUT i think to rng a win for shem vs brut endgame is harder.. you'd rng for arden to hold off saveas and ferael with roots and nemora to charm ferael after.. a dodge from shem early might just clinch it .. or as long as she doesnt get crit and siphons to heal she will be alright.. nemora healing her also gives her energy to ult faster

lone birch
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@novel adder thanks, i'll try it

novel adder
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Estrilda accelerates all your ults so she is a good pick with brutus mostly banished and only numisu to face

copper stirrup
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@placid cradle sevas+brutus+shaman, belinda+hogan/estrilda

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so you will get 3+2 bonuses and this is HUGE buff.

placid cradle
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okaei, problem is front line gets shredded within 3 seconds xd

copper stirrup
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@placid cradle use brutus vs top line, enemy's belinda will atack him.

placid cradle
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i don't have one ;-;

vagrant goblet
novel adder
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@placid cradle looks more like a level thing.. if you have a wilder tank.. run instead of grezhul.
Arden
Grezhul/WIlder tank
Nemora
Lucius
Saveas.
Ideally you want saveas working on the more threatening frontline and backline.. so bottom side is better.. rng for some crits

placid cradle
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@novel adder definitely tried this one out, came close I guess it is rng and a level problem, thanks!

copper stirrup
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@vagrant goblet brutus ->top , shem->bot . Arden to left bot position, to not die so fast

placid cradle
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Here's my pool

copper stirrup
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@vagrant goblet and ofc you need root enemy arden.../shem

placid cradle
novel adder
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@digital shuttle can try with hogan + belinda for thoran and mehira.. But you do look underleveled.. morvus shrapnel is a problem.. so is estrilda running through..

copper stirrup
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@novel adder later the main problem not a brutus.... 😭 sadly it's tasi

digital shuttle
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Ye morvus is one shoting the whole backrow @novel adder

golden sluice
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any advice?

vagrant goblet
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@copper stirrup I last for about the length of Brutus immunity

copper stirrup
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@golden sluice you sacrificed so many forest? only 1 lika...

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@golden sluice you need ast least 1 DD-2DD (shem+belinda) 1 good tank, and 2 supports. And have at least +3 buff every time

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@golden sluice Belinda+lucius+raine+brutus+lika

golden sluice
#

so raine is good? ppl in my guild told me she is average at least

copper stirrup
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@golden sluice you need support anyway, raine not so bad, in your case, because you have no Arden/tasi/nemora 😭

vagrant goblet
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@golden sluice At chapter 15-16? you unlock another type of tower for each faction. You'll want to have teams for all of them too

copper stirrup
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@golden sluice it's hard, but try to not sacrifice ascended heroes from wilders...

golden sluice
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allright, im pretty new to afk so i actually had no clue what i was dooing the first weeks

copper stirrup
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@warped pollen try to sacrifice only NOT ascended heroes . That's the secret 😉 Ascended - heroes which can be lvled up to lvl 240. Tap on "Heroes" button and then tap on "portraits" you must sacrifice only "legendary" heroes.

vagrant marten
copper stirrup
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@vagrant marten Lika+nemora+tasi+shemira+lucius. Change position of Shemira vs Brutus and lucius vs vedan.

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@vagrant marten place tasi at rear lane vs hasos , She must not die from first axes.

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@vagrant marten and what artifcats do you have? It's change game a lot

vagrant marten
#

I have all before dura blade because I didnt have time to get it

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I will try to get it, I Heard it is broken hah

copper stirrup
#

Use +energy artefact on tasi. advantage at TASI sleep. It will help to kill 3/5 enemies

vagrant marten
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It isnt quite working for Lucius like he is getting wreaked by vedan and niru, he cant even use his ultimate once

copper stirrup
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lvl 149 😭 lucius... use toran for fear

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So you will get 3+2 buff, maybe it will helps

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Anyway you main combination until chapter 22 is Shem+tasi+ any tank which can survive at least 5-10 seconds

vagrant marten
#

Well, I could level up Lucius up to 160 and use me scrols for lightbeares

copper stirrup
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@vagrant marten it's hard to obtain ascended lucius... or too many donations 😭 Use heroes that can be obtained w/o it . Wilders+shemira+Grezhul. It depends on luck only 😭

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I have lvl200 lucius and only 1 copy 😭 at 22-50 . But i roll wilders everytime. they are useful 😉

vagrant marten
#

I have 10 scrols now so you suggest to use them on wilders? I could be it hah

copper stirrup
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@vagrant marten chance to get "violet" one about 3%. So every 40 summons you guaranted get at least 1 "violet" hero....So even 10 scrolls can be useless 😉

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Anyway save tasi 😉

vagrant marten
#

OK then, thanks you 🙂

cerulean whale
#

@wise merlin can you help me? Says ur community supporter

wise merlin
#

@cerulean whale Of course! thank you for bringing it to my attention! 🙂

Before I could advice you on this stage, could you please share your complete hero roster? so I'll be able to hand out a much better advice with more quality to it! 😁

copper moon
#

@idle oriole swap Lyca and Shemira and get Arden to 141 reset Saveas if you have to

idle oriole
#

@Xerxes#3072 I got arden to 141 earlier but still having some trouble

thorny crystal
copper moon
#

@idle oriole
Try

Rosaline
---- Brutus
Rowan
---- Shemira
Mehira

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@thorny crystal reset Ulmus to 180 and take Shemira to 200

Then try

Rosaline
---- Shemira
Athalia
---- Lucius
Fawkes

pale kettle
copper moon
pale kettle
#

Thanks cutie

thorny crystal
#

I'll try ty

orchid egret
copper moon
#

@orchid egret put Rowan in crystal then try

Rowan
---- Shemira
Arden
---- Brutus
Tasi

orchid egret
#

Okay thx ill do that right away

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Silvani should hit rowan or tasi first?

copper stirrup
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@orchid egret it will hit weakest one. Place weakest behind the brutus

copper moon
#

@orchid egret Rowan

copper stirrup
#

so after silvina kills rowan it will atack invicible brutus

potent rover
#

Can anyone help me out !

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I am stuck around 5-24

copper stirrup
#

lvlup silvina

potent rover
#

Should I delevel someone to do that or just afk it out?

copper stirrup
#

just wait a little bit 😉

potent rover
#

Tyty!

thorny crystal
#

it worked after a few trys ty @copper moon

potent rover
#

Do I have an ok start?

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Like can I make these heros work later on?

copper stirrup
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@potent rover just relax, you will get good heroes later . At this moment useful heroes till chapter 20 is tasi and estrilda

potent rover
#

@copper stirrup kk so I don't need to spend 100$ to enjoy the game later? 😆

copper stirrup
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@potent rover nope 😉 . just use 1 rule: DO NOT SACRIFICE ascended heroes!!! You can find who is ascended and who is trash in HERO->Portraits tab

potent rover
#

Roger! Thanks much for the help!

copper stirrup
#

So just be calm... it's game about time 😉 not about donation only

potent rover
#

Nice! I like the sound of that

copper stirrup
#

You will have good progress about 1 month, and then it will be slowed done. Just enter the game 2 times a day to get AFK rewards, and it will be fine

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@potent rover if you will use donation spend it to special 45 days events. It's best way to

potent rover
#

What are the 45 day events

copper stirrup
#

this tab

lavish lichen
#

Looking for a good pvp setup if there's one better than just the campaign meta from here. Thanks!

tulip yacht
restive mauve
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@tulip yacht i used Shemira, brutus, arden, lyca, tasi for that one and needed some tries for good tasi rng. give your shemira your best gear and try with duras call or duras grace on her

tulip yacht
#

Io have those ones Elite+ only, not even legendary, the get oneshotted

restive mauve
#

@tulip yacht what is your gear status? my tasi is still only E+ and did survive up until 18 without a problem with legi/l+ gear

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needed some retries depending on her rng though to beat certain stages

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@pale kettle i used

arden
--shemira
lyca
--brutus
tasi

if i recall correctly. maybe swap top 2 with bottom 2. if there is an arden on this stage, you can use athalia to interrupt his roots

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@lavish lichen depends on the meta on your server. currently there are a lot of players on my server, who use 3/4/5 lightbearer comp with lucius and fawkes to counter campaign meta comp with shemira.

i found succes with athalia to counter fawkes comps but i am unsure if this is a good defensive

with your lineup i would still go with meta comp. maybe when your lucius is higher you can tryout a core of fawkes, lucius, and belinda with maybe shemira and another support to get 3 faction bonus

plush ridge
#

Quick line up question, I am getting to the point where I can purchase a character from the arena points rewards, I'm picking between ulmus, or athalia? ... Any advice?

copper stirrup
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grezhul or fawkes at my opinion . Because atalia is TOO hard to obtain. And even Legendary useless

teal galleon
#

help ulricry

tidal pelican
next rose
vagrant goblet
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@next rose The most common advice would be to focus your scrolls on Wilders, as that's the faction with the most meta champions (Tasi, Nemora, Lyca, Arden)

next rose
#

Yeah but I don't want to do whatever everyone else is doing lol

tidal pelican
#

well then no need to ask

pale kettle
#

@next rose the general idea is that early game, you want someone that can hard carry (like shemira, I see you're building her), someone that heals well (nemora) and someone that does CC well (tasi/arden). The rest, is really up to you, people do lyca and brutus for the additional tanking/haste, which is why it's commonly the meta and the best way to progress. If you don't want to do what everyone else is doing, I'd recommend picking heroes from the labyrinth/challenger store and going from there

next rose
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@pale kettle I have Shemira which I'll have two more pieces next week or more for her. I have Arden just need some gear for him and I have Rowan which I feel compliments the team comp better. I'm just having issues at this level keeping Lucius alive because he's only elite and my Brutus can't withstand any punishment. Shamira always seems to do better than him in the tank spot

pale kettle
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@next rose Yeah, Shemira becomes a tanky hero from about 161-240, sometimes earlier, depending on who you run. Lucius is very ascension specific and if he falls behind he's a lost cause. Rowan is fantastic, especially once you start levelling his sig up. A lot of this game is patience, getting the right summons etc

next rose
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Yeah that's why I'm thinking about banking my scrolls on Lightbearers to help Lucius because my other tanks are extremely lacking

pale kettle
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A good balance is to hit the 15% formation bonus on attack and hp. Just be mindful that GB and LB don't have that much in terms of CC, so high DPS teams may give you problems

torpid stirrup
pale kettle
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In my experience there was no helping at this stage... just lots, and lots, of trial and error. No lineup helped, until I got lucky with a double shem ult and my Khasos kept brutus occupied

next rose
pale kettle
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@next rose oh you have fawkes, I didn't see that. I'd probably build him from the challenger store if I were you, buying more Shemira's from Labyrinth store until you have enough for Ascended, and see who you can level in between from summoning

next rose
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@pale kettle that's the plan! But I still can't get through hard mode for Challenger coins

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I think I have a solid team going I just need dupes

pale kettle
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Hard mode can be relic dependent, once Shemira hits 161 though that'll change

next rose
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So I should focus on normal until she's 160?

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@pale kettle if you have any other advice feel free to dm me. I don't wanna flood this channel 😂😂

torpid stirrup
onyx basin
misty raven
tepid current
twilit ocean
brittle maple
harsh ridge
brittle maple
#

Nevermind I got it

dim pecan
teal glade
long elm
#

@harsh ridge My recommendation would be Shem, Nemora, Rowan, Lucius/Brutus, and Belinda. I'm unfamiliar with Baden though.

iron kelp
#

Hold on to arden

restive mauve
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@long elm keep arden until stage 20/21, he falls off after. some still use him every now and then in 23

gusty stirrup
teal glade
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I've been using arden on a FEW levels in 22 but honestly I'm seriously considering getting rid of him. Doesn't feel like he's that necessary anymore. Everything one shots him so an L+ doesn't really feel like it's offering any more value than an e+

restive mauve
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i agree, thats what i meant with falling off 🙂

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@gusty stirrup maybe try one of these

belinda
-- Lucius
rowan
--shemira
tasi

tasi
-- Lucius
athalia
--shemira
rowan

glacial brook
#

Belinda Rowan sherima Brutus Fawkes. that's what I did to finish all of chapter 18 and 19

iron kelp
glacial brook
#

the silvinda the biggest problem. might have to wait to use Merc

fierce kayak
#

@glacial brook one Carry is good enough. Tasi behind Brutus to bait silv. I will drop Belinda rowan fawkes for Wilders cc herores personally

glacial brook
#

I think I just need to wait. can't seem to beat it

copper moon
#

@glacial brook
Try

Fawkes
---- Shemira
Athalia
---- Brutus
Tasi

waxen field
glacial brook
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@copper moon I tried.athalia dies after she dives in lol

clear saddle
waxen field
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Whats the lineup tuesday

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@clear saddle ur shem is asc tho

still oar
#

Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
From the SS @waxen field. And from the look of it you need to charm Arden to root kaz.

waxen field
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Ok ima keep tryin

still oar
#

Technically you can also try arden to rrot them first

waxen field
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Oh fkyeah hahahaha

subtle moss
#

so i'm thinking of resetting shemira and putting her on the crystal since she's capped rn, but who should i levelup instead of her?

waxen field
#

Max saveas, get one if you dont

subtle moss
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i don't, f2p rn so cant just whale for one sigh. save it til i can get saveas then?

still oar
#

Arden

waxen field
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Arden/saveas/vedan/silvina

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But saveas tho 10/10 carried me til ch13

pale kettle
foggy sinew
pale kettle
#

If you rely only on khasos to carry your team, you should consider taking lyca to boost people at beginning

#

Also equip eye of dura if you have it

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@foggy sinew

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Oh yes i did it

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No longer need advice, thanks anyways !

foggy sinew
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I'll try to get the eye when my crystal cooldowns are done

raven cove
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Everything is fine in the beginning, they tank a lotof damage but It's alright. The issue is once all of them have their ultima ready they stat to stomp me down and wipe me in like 5 seconds.

pale kettle
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You have to have the good relics

foggy sinew
#

I had to do that whole story again just to pick the right relics

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had mirael solo wiping that stage with huge crits

raven cove
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What relics do I need? I usually go for a defensive team and let shemira carry me.

foggy sinew
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I went pretty agressive with picking most of the intelligence dmg and crit relics, then like 1 epic damage reduce

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Life leech relics felt pretty good aswell

raven cove
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Ok I will try that, thanks

abstract dove
#

I'm stuck at the same stage, but with different levels. Not even sure I can beat them at this level.

pale kettle
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@raven cove get both fire and ice bringers and you can breeze through it, I'm only in chapter 8 and still was able to beat it with them

copper mica
abstract dove
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Have you tried 3 maulers?

copper mica
#

My levels are kinda restricted so I can’t upgrade anyone else really

fierce kayak
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@copper mica do read the guide pinned message at #classic-questions. Use Sav as carry behind Brutus, don't L heroes, etc. If you prefer Belinda As carry.. then overlevel her

past gyro
fierce kayak
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@past gyro Sav 160 should be better than shem

thorny crystal
#

yes at legendary plus savas would be a better choice to be maxed then shemira but later on sheMira will become a better choice

past gyro
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yeah 😢 i realized after the fact so i'm staggering my levelups for RC

dark moth
#

yo i am so lost here. trying to put a team together.. currently stuck on 13-39. if i post a SS of my heros can someone help me out?

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it wont let me post my pic....WTF

thorny crystal
#

I'll try to help if I can if I can't someone else would be glad too

dark moth
#

im going to have to PM you the pic of my heros

thorny crystal
#

if you want I'll post em here so others can correct me if I'm wrong

dark moth
#

thats fine. for some reason its saying "Explicit content isnt aloud" not sure where that is coming from but meh

thorny crystal
#

what are you fighting

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hmm ye its doing same to me

sterile wind
#

I feel like I'm hardstuck and cant progress no matter what i switch around

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Been running saveas/brutus/arden/tasi/nemora

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On 9-28 if that matters

raven spindle
#

@iron kelp So I got Lyca into the Crystal but unfortunately she didn’t help much.

teal glade
warm ocean
next flame
clever patio
tawny night
gaunt moth
thorny tendon
#

Could use some help with 14-37

pale kettle
spice flax
copper moon
#

@untold rivet
Try

Belinda
---- Brutus
Mehira
---- Lucius
Rowan

untold rivet
#

Which is Mehira

copper moon
#

@untold rivet Succubus

brittle maple
copper moon
faint quest
#

I need help on 22-8 :((

untold rivet
#

Out of 15 battles final results are mostly 4-0 twice I managed to get 3-0

copper moon
#

@untold rivet try Tasi instead of Mehira

steel patrol
#

Anyone got a better line up suggestion to maximise progression on this? I’ve got up to 1.2 million damage done before dying. Could get better

copper moon
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@steel patrol

Belinda
---- Lucius
Rowan
---- Shemira
Raine

brittle maple
#

@copper moon interesting...

ember bane
copper moon
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@ember bane what did you use on 22-8 XD

ember bane
#

@ashen schooner any advice for me ty

ashen schooner
#

Move Lyca where Mehira is. Remove Mehira. Brutus in top frontline.

ember bane
#

@copper moon Nemora bait for Silvana
Nemora (Silvana)
Lyca
Mehira (call heavy gear)
Shemira
Tasi chalice

brittle maple
#

@copper moon wow I had 5 alive until that Brutus wrecked me lol

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@copper moon thanks. Lineup worked

glacial brook
ember bane
ashen schooner
#

Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi @ember bane

steel patrol
#

@copper moon thanks I got to 1.6 million now

atomic flower
#

I'm stuck on 9-40 of the campaign and floor 122 of Kings tower, any suggestions? Also I have the 1st 3 dura artifacts, who should I use them on?

sacred talon
faint quest
sacred talon
#

Should I just not add her?

faint quest
#

I would replace Estrilda for Nemora tbh and its either between celestial twins or athalia @sacred talon

sacred talon
#

Ok ty... But I don't think I need Nemora because I have a lot of healers in my team

near nova
#

Hey I’m newer and idk what I should build 🤔

fierce kayak
#

@sacred talon Athalia is sort of niche to disrupt enemy backline. Don't have to force to add her in as main. Don't even level heroes too, over level carry. Read pinned at #classic-questions

sacred talon
#

Ok

near nova
idle oriole
#

@near nova buy shemira from lab store and overlevel her

bronze coral
#

Current setup any criticism?

idle oriole
#

@bronze coral mirael is going to drop off soon for u I think try putting ur resources into saveas as he's quite a decent carry till like chapter 14-15 seeing as u don't have shemira

bronze coral
#

@idle oriole Don't have any luck with Maulers. Hopefully will get some soon to swap the roster around. Want to swap to him as well as get the Brutus ascension

idle oriole
#

👌

bronze coral
idle oriole
#

U seem to have decent luck with gbs so in the long term try buying shemiras from the lab store so u can get her to high ascension quickly and she'll be an op carry unit

bronze coral
#

Ok, yeah I'm not a grave born fan. I should have some more however I've been focusing on this team just because of the characters. Hit a wall at 10-24 so gonna be focusing on my heros a bit now

idle oriole
#

Alright cool 👍

bronze coral
#

Thanks for the assistance

idle oriole
#

Np

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@bronze coral also u should never feed ascended tier heroes to ascend other heroes as I see u fed ur free E+ belinda 😅.. Belinda is a good dps hero and a viable replacement for mirael down the line.. Just keep it in mind

bronze coral
#

Interesting. I kind of understand what your saying

ember bane
clear saddle
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Put Shem in place of lyca and Arden instead of tasi

tawny jewel
#

Need help for 20-56

clear saddle
#

@tawny jewel you can probably run estrilda and Shem front, make sure estrilda is against silvina and has good boots. Then you can run lyca tasi Arden backline

grand dragon
slow rock
grand dragon
#

@slow rock Id try

Arden
Brutus
Fawkes
Shemira
Rosaline

slow rock
#

Ok thx, ill try it ^^

marble cobalt
#

im working on the mauler dps specifically for this but i just dont have the resource to level them yet

faint quest
#

Switch ira and nemoras place so nem can charm ogi @marble cobalt

marble cobalt
#

nice it worked

restive mauve
#

@marble cobalt only level 5 heroes and put the others you need into the crystal later.

don't underestimate factionsbonus you get from 3 or more of the same faction 😉

bold coral
bronze coral
#

Anyone have a list or know where I could find one that shows currently the topped ranked hero for every faction? Trying to build a LB W squad.

ionic scaffold
#

I'd say focus on Saveas. Maybe run Hogan, Thane, Mirael, and another tank or something? So that you get the bonus HP from the faction bonus. More HP = more damage with Saveas

deft niche
brave wagon
#

@deft niche, for you right now, just progress steadily through campaign. Make sure to complete all your daily quests and basically farm gems for 10x draws. The importance of team compositions basically only starts when all your res heroes reach lv 120

thick cypress
#

what should i do? ): i’m stuck on 15-11

idle oriole
#

Send the stage xd @thick cypress

thick cypress
#

What do you mean @idle oriole

idle oriole
#

Send a screenshot of the stage

thick cypress
idle oriole
#

No.. Send a ss of 15-11

thick cypress
idle oriole
#

👌 that way it's easier for ppl to help

thick cypress
#

okay cool thanks man

idle oriole
#

I ain't there yet but maybe something like
Tasi
--shem
Lyca
--Luci
Nemora(to charm saveas)

thick cypress
#

oh shit lmao, that worked! Thank you!

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you think i should replace my saveas with something else now??
Idk if he's actually any good anymore

idle oriole
#

Awesome 😅 yea I think saveas has probably gotten past his carry point at chapter 14-15+

thick cypress
#

Who do you think i should replace with?

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i wanna replace with brutus but i have no copies of him

idle oriole
#

Wilder trio at the back is gonna be more helpful I think and luci and shem in front is probably fine too

grand dragon
idle oriole
#

@thick cypress ye Brutus is good replacement too

radiant minnow
thick cypress
#

@idle oriole should i just reset saveas and level up lyca and put all his shit on her?

raven spindle
idle oriole
#

@thick cypress yea that's probably best

thick cypress
#

fasho, thanks my g. @idle oriole

idle oriole
#

Np👍

thick cypress
#

who should i put dura's eye on then? Lyca?

idle oriole
#

I usually have eye on shem but I don't have blade yet so that's probably not bad choice putting eye on lyca I'm not sure tho

thick cypress
#

yeah i have blade on shem, Call on lucius, grace on nemora, drape on tassi and eye on saveas

idle oriole
#

👌

novel adder
#

@grand dragon
try
Fawkes/nemora
Khasos/Brutus (whoever lasts longer)
Lyca
Shem
Arden
You are relying on rng to root down hogan and belinda as much as possible. Call on shem.

modern saffron
novel adder
#

@radiant minnow you lookpretty underleveled
I dont think there's much wrong formation wise.. id try somethinglike
Shem
Hendriks/Estrilda
Rowan
Lucius
Gwyn.
Or nemora in place of your lyca.. but looks like its levels..

As for focus.. you need to aim for L+ heroes.. preferably legendary tiers.. you kinda got yourself stuck with quite a few of them.. please do read the pinned tips in #classic-questions. And limit yourself to building one ascended tier hero per faction for now.. spreading your resources slow you down a lot

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@modern saffron never fodder ascendeds tier units like seirus.. you will regret it in the future.. 99% guarantee.. Second thing is ascending to L is not the wisest thing to do... you can get yourself stuck because of that.. i recommend you read the pinned tips in #classic-questions it explains it in detail and with more tips too.

modern saffron
#

Ty

#

After a read .gonna out Arden on my res crystal

true portal
#

hey guys i have enough to make a mythic brutus now

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eventhough i wont have enough to make him ascended, do u guys think he will be useful at mythic+ throughout the game?

novel adder
#

@true portal what level is your crystal?

true portal
#

this is my crystal

novel adder
#

@true portal ahh 125 crystal.. i wouldn't do it.. not yet anyway.. mythic brutus without levels doesnt mean too much..the extra L+ heroes are more often than not more useful..
Level your crystal to 141 first and preferably 160 before you decide.
Levels are way more important for progress than ascensions.. in fact the most important thing ascensions unlock is level cap

true portal
#

@novel adder i see thank you!!

pale kettle
#

10-40, have tried Hendrik, Shemira, Fawkes, Rowan and Rosaline in a thousand different positions and it won't work.

minor hull
cerulean hamlet
#

@minor hull
Wrizz:
Shemira + Rosaline + Lucius + Belinda + Estrilda

Soren:
Shemira + Rosa + Lucius + Baden + Grezhul. Though maybe something different for soren might be better since your Grezh + Baden aren't really ascended 🤔

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@pale kettle Shemira + Brutus/Hendrick + Lyca + Tasi + Arden maybe try that?

heady wave
restive mauve
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@heady wave try this

Tasi
--saveas
Lyca
--brutus
Arden

If this is not working well switch arden and tasi.

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You can try saveas bottom Frontline too, but then you have to put arden behind him in my opinion to root up the enemy saveas

heady wave
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Golus is a huge issue he literally shreds through saveas/brutus, I never kill more than 2 units :/

green gyro
placid cradle
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120+ Saveas

fierce kayak
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@green gyro

  1. read pinned at #classic-questions for guide
  2. reset Arden and place crystal
  3. don't level like this. For example Sav should be 120, crystal is 80. Then level tank next to 101/120, then supports.
  4. try
    Rowan
    Hogan
    Belinda
    Brutus
    Savaes
floral cargo
placid cradle
carmine cloud
floral cargo
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I suggest placing arden on top backline

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@carmine cloud

green gyro
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Thank you so much @fierce kayak

carmine cloud
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Arden gets 1shot

floral cargo
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By who

carmine cloud
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Not really sure. He gets hit with something and then again with like a purple circle under him

oblique rain
green gyro
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Suggestions with what? like campaign or arena

oblique rain
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for campain please

uneven pendant
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I have no clue how to go about this

fierce kayak
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@oblique rain try not to level your heroes randomly. For example Sav 160, crystal 120. Then Lucius 141 and then Arden 141. Then either Lucius 160 or rest of heroes 141 first. I will reset Shem.
Sav 160
Lucius
Belinda/Arden
Hogan
Rowan/arden

idle oriole
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@uneven pendant
Nemora
--seirus
Lyca
--Estrilda
Tasi

oblique rain
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@fierce kayak thanks, I'll try that

cedar linden
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Who are my best heroes?

spark lake
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Need recommendations of Wrizz & Soren line-up.

My highest was reached by [F] Lucius Baden // [B] Belinda Twins Shemira

Just recently got Grezhul and just tried full GB lineup but turned out I really need Lucius' shield.

Any idea? Thanks :)

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@cedar linden i suggest you play [F] Brutus Khasos // [B] Saveas Nemora Tasi

Shemira is cool but all her useful skill will be unlocked a bit later at least when 141

cedar linden
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Okay thank you

clear saddle
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@spark lake for wrizz it’s recommended to go full damage so sav Belinda Shem Baden and Twins or something

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For soren it’s best to run Baden Lucius and Rowan + damage

thorny valley
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Should i really replace my nemora w lyca or what shd i do. Lineup rn is Belinda Nemora Fawkes Estrilda and Lucius. Or if you have any other lineup that can help i would gladly appreciate it.

spark lake
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Greatly appreciated thanks! @clear saddle

clear saddle
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👍

lilac vapor
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I am getting squished here, despite adding arden

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Or should I swap someone else?

hollow ether
copper moon
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@hollow ether
Try

Rowan
---- Hogan
Mehira
---- Shemira
Rosaline

Or

Tasi
---- Hogan
Rowan
---- Shemira
Rosaline

vagrant marten
copper moon
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@lilac vapor
Try

Lyca
---- Lucius
Athalia
---- Shemira
Arden

clear saddle
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@vagrant marten Nemora middle back, replace tasi with her