#lineup-help

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runic arrow
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Ok thanks

reef birch
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No worries

runic arrow
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Thats a plus 20 levels

reef birch
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Yea, that's the ideal, but it can be less

runic arrow
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Still lost ulricry

reef birch
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Did you put Saveas behind Brutus?

runic arrow
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Yeah but i won, used a mercenary nemora thanks though

reef birch
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No worries

ember bane
dense ivy
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Oh wise sages of lineup help, how do I get past the last stage of chapter 15?

cerulean hamlet
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Put nemora in the middle and pray she charms the ferael, also maybe put in lyca and tasi if you have them. Evt brutus > Lucius too

dense ivy
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Ok, I will try

cerulean hamlet
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So something like
Tasi

  • Brutus
    Nemora
  • Shemira
    Lyca
dense ivy
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Mm I think tasi Brutus and lyca are very ill equipped...

cerulean hamlet
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You can move around equipment but honestly the most important thing for them is just - brutus having immunity to tank for a bit more

  • tasi surviving long enough to ult
  • lyca just hasting
  • nemora charming ferael.
    Anything else they do is just a bonus. That should allow you to pass that stage once you get that to happen 🙂
dense ivy
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I see, I tried moving equipment but maybe Brutus is too low level, didn’t tank long enough for tasi to jot

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Cast her ultimate*

cerulean hamlet
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How are your relics placed?

dense ivy
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Oh I haven’t swapped relics yet, let me try

remote otter
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Any thing I can improve on to beat this level

dense ivy
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@cerulean hamlet Hmm Tasi turns on Ferael, leaving Nemora to charm Grezul instead.

cerulean hamlet
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Uh, maybe arden over Tasi then? But it should still work as long as shem + tasi both get to ult

dense ivy
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I see, I had one run with both ultimates going off but they got melted soon

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Relics I placed are Grace for Shemira, Eye for Nemora, Drape for Brutus and Call for Tasi.

cerulean hamlet
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Yeah, the wilder comp is pretty high variance but can RNG through a lot of stages with enough tries. Alt maybe Tasi + Arden since ferael gets banished. Either should hopefully work.

dense ivy
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Hmm, I replaced Brutus with Lucius and he tanks longer allowing most ultimates to fire, but I still get instantly melted and I can’t tell by whom... my guess is Isabella?

loud scroll
dense ivy
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Yeah Isabella melts my team when she ults:(

cerulean hamlet
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Hm, I'm not sure what else to do other than try again then. I used:
Tasi with call

  • Shem grace
    Nem
  • Brutus
    Lyca
    As the setup to beat 15-40 but I didn't save any screen of that.
dense ivy
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Ooh I followed this lineup you just wrote and tried 3 times and it worked haha thanks 🙂

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Turned out swapping Brutus and Shem was the key

cerulean hamlet
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@remote otter Try leveling saveas more and swapping belinda for tasi maybe.

shy mesa
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Any idea on what I can do to beat this

cerulean hamlet
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@shy mesa What other heroes do you have?

shy mesa
cerulean hamlet
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Maybe
Tasi

  • Lucius
    Nemora
  • Kaz
    Lyca (mercenary)

You'd want to get some DPS carry like shemira to 141/161 though, currently your DPS is pretty low

shy mesa
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That's true but I'm trying to stick to wilder/lightbringers

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I'm curious if Lorsan will be able to fill that role if he is adequately equipped

cerulean hamlet
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Lorsan is great at enhancing allied ults and damage output but his own raw DPS isn't great. If you really want to stick to Wilder/LB you'd want Thane or Lyca to carry probably.

rose tundra
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Ik its a miracle that i got as far as i got with 2 legendaries.. Used to have 0 not that long ago

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But im curious if the current heroes im using are ok, untill i eventually ascend belinda or lucius

cerulean hamlet
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@rose tundra The hero selection is good but I'd recommend overleveling saveas to be the highest leveled hero as he's the best early game carry to around ch 15 then you can build the rest of your team around him until another carry takes over. Could you post the rest of your heroes if possible?

rose tundra
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Will do give me 1 second

pale kettle
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yep, go with saveas....he destroys a whole team on his own...at least in the low level stages

shy mesa
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I just think combining Kaz with Lorsan could be pretty neat

rose tundra
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And i should be able to elite+ shemira when the shop refreshes in a day or 2

cerulean hamlet
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Hm, Tasi - Lyca - Arden/Nemora backline + Saveas + Brutus/Other tank seems like your best bet

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Shemira is good to buy from lab store but do keep in mind she doesn't really shine until level 141/161

rose tundra
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As of rn.. From what i tried b4 asking what everyone else thinks, ferael does quite the damage compared to everyone in my team rn since i got him to legendary

cerulean hamlet
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Alt - Saveas + Lucius/Brutus + Rowan - Fawkes - Belinda/Gwyneth.

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Ferael might work but he doesn't really shine until level 201 and is a great late-game carry, early on you'll get much more use out of an overleveled saveas.

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@shy mesa Lorsan works best with someone with a high impact ultimate but I suppose kaz might be able to burst the one linked by gale force but I don't think it's that great of a combo to build a team around. Regardless though you will need a stronger damage carry.

novel adder
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@shy mesa kaz carry actually works.. proven by some people.. she has high single target dps. The issue with her is that it will be pretty expensive to go higher levels if you're focusing on multiple heroes from the same faction.
The reason why she isn't used as often is because getting her copies is completely luck.. and once you reach mythic+ your carry option is completely halted except if you are lucky with pulls or you spend. I'd advise to not put all your eggs in one basket..unless you plan to invest money in the dream. utilise your other factions too.. its wasted resources if you dont.

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@rose tundra please do read the pinned tips in #classic-questions i believe it will help you in your planning

supple stratus
broken egret
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@supple stratus what artifacts did you have with that?

solar kindle
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What faction is good for starter?

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Im ftp

misty raven
polar wagon
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Can someone help?

rocky crescent
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You try fawkes instead of Lyca? Also take a picture of all your troops for us

polar wagon
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ok, fawkes instead of lyca helped

rocky crescent
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Sometimes faction bonus helps. Other choice is fawkes over waric and use Lyca again

loud kernel
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i am new player how should i try to progress?

and what heroes i put favorite in noble tavern

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and i really like thane can i make him my mcarry or will it slow down my progress

gentle spoke
pulsar breach
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This level is horrible, I am at it..

wise merlin
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@gentle spoke Tasi instead of Rosaline.

3/0 Faction bonus

gentle spoke
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Doesnt work

wise merlin
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Did you swap out gear / Artifacts too? elethathink

Don't forget Tasi is very RNG based.

gentle spoke
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Maybe should put it on auto click

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Ill try tnx 😉
Got it ^^ took longer tho :/

wise merlin
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You can edit your previous messages instead of waiting for the Cooldown by the way. ^^

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@gentle spoke Glad it worked out for you! Best of luck further on belindakiss

harsh ridge
idle oriole
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Get Estrilda up, u can use her with Hogan and belinda for faction bonus.. Later on u can use Hogan as fodder for other better heroes but that should be fine for now

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@harsh ridge

full island
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Anyone got a suggestion on what lineup to use? Should i built in the Wilders?

quaint sky
pale kettle
novel spruce
pale kettle
clever patio
fading cipher
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Anyone have lineup to beat 22-26?

gentle spoke
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@pale kettle get a tasi! It helped me just a while ago

clever patio
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I think fawkes and replace tasi in some situations also

restive mauve
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@pale kettle try brutus instead of estrilda and put him bottom frontline. maybe swap athalia and belindas position, so that she ults the top enemies first

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@novel spruce level up belinda to 161 if possible and use a shemira brutus tasi lyca arden comp.

pale kettle
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I need help

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@restive mauve i finished it, but thx

restive mauve
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@pale kettle put tasi in the crystal. hendrik and lucius frontline. belinda/miraeal, tasi and lyca in the back

@pale kettle np, glad to hear you made progress 🙂

gentle spoke
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@random verge have you tried rosaline instead of nemora?

random verge
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@gentle spoke yep silv kills her before she can get anywhere

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And if I make her target tasi then tasi gets killed before she can do anything

copper moon
random verge
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@copper moon I'll try and imitate that, I hope an E fawkes with full 5* M gear is enough lol

barren fractal
pale kettle
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@restive mauve thanks ı pass this level but without hendrik

full island
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Anyone gut a suggestion for lineup? Rather new player and would appreciate some help

barren fractal
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Chapter 7 for me 👎

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I think I should level up that rosaline ?

still oar
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Up that saveas and resonate lyca and arden, both are nice support @full island

gritty lava
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Just joined afk arena for 3 days and stucked on chap 6-12 need some help/suggestion on lineup or who to train. Thanks in advance.

full island
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@still oar straight push saveas or take the others to 81 first? thank you

still oar
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Try max him first

full island
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ok will do, thanks again

still oar
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Make saveas your highest level @gritty lava. And raise 9r resonate Arden when you can

gritty lava
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@still oar ehh whats 9r resonate. Apologize in advance for not knowing prof terms 😂

still oar
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Resonating crystal

gritty lava
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Ahh got it thank you

floral cargo
torpid pelican
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@floral cargo
Athalia
Estrillda
Nemora
Brutus
Kelthur

floral cargo
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Okey

torpid pelican
rugged orbit
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If that doesnt work then try
Nem
Estrilda
Saveas/Anna
Brutus
Athalia

floral cargo
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Saveas legit one shots athalia estrilda and nemora @torpid pelican

rugged orbit
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Swap estrilda with brutus then and aim to charm saveas with nem @floral cargo

floral cargo
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Okay

upbeat jay
rugged orbit
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Try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
@upbeat jay

upbeat jay
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What artifacts go on each?

floral cargo
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She charms him but he doesnt hit his team cuz athalia would’ve stunned him

rugged orbit
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Follow my lineup athalia shouldnt be stunning saveas but mirael instead 🤔

floral cargo
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Oh okay

upbeat jay
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CC is just too much

rugged orbit
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@upbeat jay
Shem - blade
Tasi - call
Lyca - drape
Brutus - vitality (if u have?)/grace
Arden- leftover

torpid pelican
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Nem is gonna get one shotted by sav

upbeat jay
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You didn't say nemora you said lyca

rugged orbit
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Wait i mean lyca HoganLUL

upbeat jay
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My shem keeps getting webbed by the ankh

rugged orbit
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Does ur arden roots be4 other arden?

upbeat jay
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Yes he does.

floral cargo
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Its impossible i always loose 0-5

upbeat jay
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But then my arden dies because ogi stomp leaving the other arden to vine my team

floral cargo
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Even tho nem charms sav he still 1 shots everyone

grizzled pebble
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help?

floral cargo
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Imma just go sleep its 1am im tired ty for the help @rugged orbit

grizzled pebble
rugged orbit
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@floral cargo haha sorry couldnt help much man

floral cargo
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Nah no problem

upbeat jay
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Sigh I'm never going to get past this

floral cargo
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Thats what they say, i legit got stuck at 10-40 for 2 weeks then shredded through chap 11 to 11-33

rugged orbit
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Which stage is that @upbeat jay i might have a ss

torpid pelican
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@grizzled pebble
Ira
Brutus
Nem
Lucius
Belina

rugged orbit
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U can try
Tasi
Brutus
Shem
Lyca
Arden
And then pray for god somehow lyca dodge ogi stomp, arden roots ogi,ankhira, other arden and someehow tasi manage to ult

upbeat jay
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Oh my Fuck i got so close

torpid pelican
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@upbeat jay if you got close keep running that same exact formation and you'll eventually get a win

upbeat jay
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Not with Brutus, with estrilda

torpid pelican
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@upbeat jay if theres an enemy or two left ull win eventually

grizzled pebble
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@torpid pelican i'll try, thanks

upbeat jay
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And there it is. I won. Really spiritual

torpid pelican
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@upbeat jay long live rnjesus

haughty tide
rugged orbit
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Try @torpid pelican
Tasi/Arden
Estrilda
Rosa
Brutus
Belinda
Somehow i think that"ll work

upbeat jay
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Now 18-40 is kicking my ass even harder

mellow shuttle
still oar
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Try charm oppo saveas and use saveas to clear it from bottom @mellow shuttle

mellow shuttle
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Charm oppo?

torpid pelican
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@rugged orbit nope didnt work

still oar
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Put nemora in the opposite of opponent saveas and charm him. Use your saveas to clear the stage from bottom. Golus is to tanky and ankhira can cause lot of troubles with her skills @mellow shuttle

torpid pelican
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@still oar got any suggestions for me

tawny night
still oar
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Belinda
Brutus
Rosa
Estrilda/thoran/lyca
Tasi/Arden/raine
Try trigger last gasp before brutus can use his ultimate+lasp gasp and delay the other opponents. Or pour as much damage with raine @torpid pelican

I am not familiar with lb tho. My experience with them just from lab and tower

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Tasi nemora lyca(arden) as backline.
Try charm vurk and use tasi as bait @tawny night

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And Arden is your weakest isn't it?

tawny night
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That’s who I watched. My Brutus can’t make it to use his ultimate tho

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I put gear off Nemora she’s bait

still oar
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Hold on a sec let me see how I did it

pale kettle
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Could really use some help been stuck on this level for awhile. The arrow rain kills Shem before she can ult and tasi dies too fast to ult

still oar
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Don't think you can pull this off as well since my nemora was 181 even tho it's pre sig. Since tasi is the bait @tawny night

visual quiver
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Any suggestions? Backline gets almost oneshot. Arden is too slow and never roots enemies. Tasi can never ulz because of enemy arden. 18-40 btw

still oar
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Try nemora(Arden) shemira tasi as backline @pale kettle. Root Arden, ogi and kaz. Either by charming oppo Arden or just root them

indigo jolt
pale kettle
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Beat it thanks

still oar
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His Arden is l, lostdenarian. Kinda hard to pull 🤣

steel gazelle
split turret
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Could someone point me in the right direction for a line up, any help would be much appreciated

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just a base team set up

pale kettle
mossy loom
still oar
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Put vurk behind brutus and use his poison to help brutus clearing his side. Should be easier after one or two lukes are down @pale kettle

mossy loom
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@still oar where do I put my lineup?

still oar
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Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Shem
Charm estrilda I think @mossy loom

pale kettle
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I already tried with fawkes and lyca too... but I think my relics aren’t the right ones... what relics should I aim for?

keen lion
still oar
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Bringers and death's bite (kaz) if you could @pale kettle. Add sunstone or even both stones so you can cc lock them with tasi

pale kettle
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kk! thanks for the tip!!

pale kettle
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Is this best comp? Keep losing :(((.

grave shard
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Is this lineup okay?

pallid lake
pale kettle
pale kettle
tepid current
fierce kayak
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@tepid current try
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora

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@pale kettle I don't understand bro. Anyway I would pick one Carry Belinda or Shem and overlevel her. I will reset Belinda to 160 and make Shemira 200 before leveling others. Don't L heroes anymore, build Arden to L+ 141 for 3 roots and you can use Meta team.

Read pinned at #classic-questions for tips.

pale kettle
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@fierce kayak I still need 5k dust to get Shem to 181

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What’s the Meta team @fierce kayak

upbeat jay
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Need some help lol.

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle shem and brutus/tank front, Arden Tasi Lyca nemora back

upbeat jay
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Wym.

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that comp isnt the answer to everything

pale kettle
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That’s the closest I can get actually just pulled tasi from the wilder multi

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle drop Belinda. One carry is enough. Kell vedan first. Try
Tasi
Brutus
Eroinn
Shemira
Lyca/nemora

pale kettle
ember bane
upbeat jay
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ur using lvl 180s against lvl 250s bro

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just take a breather and level up lol.

loud kernel
upbeat jay
steel moat
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@upbeat jay try

Tasi
Shemira
Arden (hope he roots ogi and nemora)
Brutus
Lyca

upbeat jay
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I'll try it, thanks

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Uh the problem now, is when ogi stomps, arden immediately dies

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and he stomps before arden can root @steel moat

tawny night
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@indigo jolt holy CRAP it worked!!! Ahh thank you I was so stuck

upbeat jay
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I figured it out, estrilda knocks and stuns ogi long enough for arden to root, so i think i must use her if i want to clear it

quaint sky
steel moat
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@upbeat jay how is he geared? certain gears will give haste, and if you haven't already, put dura's eye on him so he gets haste for crits

upbeat jay
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I got to the point where shem gets her first ult off, but now she's dying at around half bar energy on the way to the second

steel moat
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@quaint sky use fawkes instead of shemira, then manual ult when brutus goes immune, it will take his shield off. That's a pretty good setup, although you may need to swap khasos for a tankier frontline later on

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I didn't notice your estrilda tasi yeah i'd use her over brutus in that circumstance

upbeat jay
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@steel moat I think tasi is obsolete, since arden has to be in the top left corner, tasi is gonna get one shot by khasos axes

steel moat
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I thought tasi would banish him ulricry if not then you could try with nemora and hope she charms him in time, although tasi ult will be more helpful to shemira

tawny night
haughty tide
steel moat
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@tawny night that's the exact roster i used to beat it, but switch shemira and tasi's positions so she doesn't get wrecked by ogi

upbeat jay
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Yess, shemira double ult, I got it! Thanks @steel moat

steel moat
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@haughty tide I would replace brutus with lyca so you can get the haste and be able to root enemy arden in time

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Nice np!

upbeat jay
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Ascended Saveas can be a bitch, the little fuck two shots my estrilda, but he's no match for the double ult Pog

tawny night
upbeat jay
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Damn the timing of that ira as brutus dies is brutal since all of the arrows hit your shem

heavy frigate
quaint sky
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@steel moat is the setup the way to go in the future? Or should I do something else

haughty tide
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How can you look up how you cleared a stage?

steel moat
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Ah lyca isn't getting enough dodges in, you may need better gearing, or alternatively since you have ascended shemira, run this as your setup in hopes that she'll be able to tank

Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Lyca

copper moon
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@heavy frigate

Raine
---- Grezhul
Rowan
----- Lucius
Shemira

For Soren

heavy frigate
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@copper moon thank you!

copper moon
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@heavy frigate woops meant Belinda instead of Grezhul

heavy frigate
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K

upbeat jay
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I havent lost yet, mowing through ch 19 for now

steel moat
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19-38 is waiting :')

upbeat jay
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And just as I said that

fierce kayak
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@haughty tide try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden/athalia
Shemira
Tasi

steel moat
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@quaint sky

Brutus and Hogan in your frontlines, then Saveas, Belinda, and a CC like Fawkes will work, in the future you will want to build Shemira and wilders cc

haughty tide
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Should I sacrifice my Arden’s for lyca leg plus?

upbeat jay
clear saddle
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@haughty tide what level is your crystal?

haughty tide
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160, almost can get it to 180

upbeat jay
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Shit gotta go for like 5 ish min

steel moat
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@upbeat jay

Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

clear saddle
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@haughty tide you have a main arden already?

haughty tide
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Well I just use a elite plus one

clear saddle
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Try and get one to L+

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he is quite useful at L+ until around chapter 20 where he can be dropped for R+ one

haughty tide
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@clear saddle I am on chapter 20

clear saddle
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@haughty tide R+ will do fine then

haughty tide
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Ok then

upbeat jay
steel moat
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I sent you the lineup but I'll copy paste again XD

Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

upbeat jay
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Yea saw 😛

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@steel moat ur a god, i got it l0l

quaint sky
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@steel moat thx for the help : )

steel moat
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Haha thanks I try 😅

upbeat jay
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Uh oh, another hard stage

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And... cleared. Get the fuck out of here Niru.

steel moat
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Niru is just... whatthefawkes

haughty tide
steel moat
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@haughty tide did you see the lineup i sent you? Also make sure everyone you are using always has your best gear smug_dolly

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Ch 20 will be quite difficult with 160 crystal though elethathink i'm impressed you made it past 20-4!

haughty tide
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I never got a line up, and if I did, it didn’t have a @ so I don’t know

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Oh you did, but it didn’t work, and it was advice

steel moat
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In that case

Lyca
Khasos
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

visual quiver
haughty tide
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Yeah, I think I need to push the cap because when the phi pounds, he kills lyca and Arden. Though I almost have grez to mythic so I almost can push the cap

steel moat
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Oh sorry, you could try with nemora instead of arden to charm other arden but I don't know how well that will work, having 180 crystal will help for sure though

pale kettle
haughty tide
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Should I do something with khasos, he does more damage than Shem

clear saddle
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@pale kettle you need nemora to charm the enemy ferael. Take out ulmus for her maybe

steel moat
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@pale kettle how about this? I recommend trying to get Shemira to M as soon as possible though

Arden (put on resonating)
Brutus
Nemora
Thane?/Shemira?
Lyca

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@visual quiver try

Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

Or

Arden
Lyca
Athalia
Shemira
Tasi

visual quiver
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it's impossible for that to work. silvina always jumps on arden and then would easily kill shemira or lyca

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and no, I can't give tasi less defense. she has more def than arden even without any gear

pale kettle
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yea im planning on focusing on shem and buying her from store. Arden's holding his own pre well, only problem is Shem is just killing everyone with her life leech 😩

clear saddle
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@visual quiver did you check unions?

steel moat
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...ok? Does removing her library union not take her def low enough?

visual quiver
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how do I remove someone from the union? I can only chose another hero

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either way. even with tasis def lower than arden, silvina would then go to shemira in both formations

steel moat
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Do you or another guildmate have a lower tier ascension tasi or ulmus? Like elite or elite+

pale kettle
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18-40

steel moat
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Ok, then switch Lyca and Tasi's positions so that she goes to Brutus instead

clear saddle
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@pale kettle show all your heroes too, thanks

visual quiver
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tried that. I think I just need better gear on brutus

steel moat
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@pale kettle this was my setup

Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

pale kettle
steel moat
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It's a tough stage, i was stuck for a long time on it before i finally got lucky and beat it

clear saddle
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@pale kettle the setup Cordelia posted will most likely work. I personally used:

Arden
Lyca
Shem
Brutus
Tasi

pale kettle
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I'll give it a try, but I've been having terrible luck wih tasi/lyca drops. I've had tasi almost since i started and not another since

visual quiver
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@steel moat doesn't work. tasi ult is much more useful in this fight than arden root

steel moat
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It is a really rng dependent stage, if arden is really failing you try it with nemora, although idk how he wouldn't be useful elethathink

visual quiver
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he isn't useful because shemira isn't tanky enough to get a second ult without tasi ult. doesn't matter if arden always roots 3

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and one ult isn't even close enough to kill them.

steel moat
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What are your gears and artifacts like?

visual quiver
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shemira full mythic. brutus 2 mythic rest L+, others have at most 1 mythic

pale kettle
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Tried it a few times, onyl 1 run got halfway close. Main issue is tasi, Arden, and lyca are all epic so they wither get 1 shot or 2 shot. I think if they were leg I wouldn't have an issue

steel moat
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I had 180 crystal and 200 shem/tank when i beat that stage, theoretically you could beat the stage with enough retries and luck but it will be very difficult before 180 crystal

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Yeah that is a bit of a problem ulricry are you putting your best gear and artifacts on them?

upbeat jay
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@steel moat ready to continue?

steel moat
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Sure thing XD

upbeat jay
steel moat
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Actually that looks pretty good, if lyca's dodge is high enough you could run this instead

Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Arden

upbeat jay
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First off, Lyca melts too fast and Tasi goes with her

visual quiver
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what stage is that?

steel moat
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Yeah ulricry then the setup you have currently is good, you could try swapping brutus and shemira's positions though

upbeat jay
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19-24

visual quiver
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pretty sure I put brutus in front of golus and shemira either in front of khasos or lyca infront and shemira behind lyca

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and arden in the middle back so he can root both ira and sav

steel moat
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I didn't screen that stage ulricry I can't remember who vurk shoots at the beginning

upbeat jay
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Well then praise the shit out of you, because I beat it in two tries with that

visual quiver
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with what

upbeat jay
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Brutus in front of golus, lyca in front of khasos, arden back middle, tasi back behind brutus, and shemira behind lycs

visual quiver
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ah yeah. shemira in front of golus is never a good idea. he outscales every tank easily. good luck with 19-36 where I'm stuck xd

upbeat jay
steel moat
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Oh that's a disgusting stage ulricry

visual quiver
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why does your 19-36 have less power than mine

upbeat jay
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this isnt 19-36, this is 19-28

steel moat
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That's not 19-36

visual quiver
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lol .. literally the same heroes

steel moat
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tasi Try tasi instead of nemora, make sure her def is lower than arden's, and switch around brutus and shemira if needed

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You could run this without brutus but it's risky
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Nemora

upbeat jay
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Not risky 😛 worst case i lose lol

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If i use that setup, whats the defence hierarchy @steel moat

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Oh hey I beat it

steel moat
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Now for 19-36 tasi same thing but so much worse

visual quiver
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how did you beat it?

upbeat jay
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I didn't... not yet atleast 😛 .

visual quiver
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I fucking beat 19-36. I hate this game so much

upbeat jay
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Why lol

visual quiver
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because it's very frustrating

upbeat jay
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lol. good job tho u bastard now u get to watch me get stuck

visual quiver
upbeat jay
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im screenshotting that screenshot

visual quiver
steel moat
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Your setup looks good, but the thing is that it's a very heavily rng dependent stage so it will likely take numerous tries to beat

wise merlin
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@visual quiver Your Arden can root faster than enemy Arden with the best available boots you have, if you have ones with Wilder faction bonus, enhance them and give it to Arden.

Preventing Arden root is probably the key to victory on 19-38.

visual quiver
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with the current formation he does root faster than the enemy arden already

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but he can only root once and dies. if I'm lucky I can barely get tasi + shemira ult but that's not even close

wise merlin
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@visual quiver I've just looked at your heroes' levels..

Please level up your Mythics to their level cap (180) so that you'll be able to level up your Shemira beyond 200, even level 201 will be enough for you to pull through. 🙂

stable mason
visual quiver
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@wise merlin ok, thanks :)

upbeat jay
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@visual quiver halppppppp lol

visual quiver
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pretty sure that's a standard lyca brutus frontline, shemira behind lyca, arden and tasi backline stage

hidden stone
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@visual quiver help my alt

visual quiver
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that's the worst early hero luck I've ever seen.

hidden stone
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That’s the point

visual quiver
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I'd reroll the account if you haven't spent money

hidden stone
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Issa challenge no shem mostly but I’m trying shit hero’s

upbeat jay
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Not working @visual quiver 😛

pale kettle
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Try Nemora to charm Kaz

visual quiver
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why not. arden needs to root nemora and ira. should be a rather easy stage

upbeat jay
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Tasi at the bottom of the backline, or arden at the bottom?

visual quiver
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arden in the middle

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shemira top and tasi bottom

hidden stone
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@pale kettle almost worked but I can’t kill kaz

visual quiver
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shemira
lyca
arden
brutus
tasi

upbeat jay
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Dunno how to send you battle results, but yeah im not even close to getting it

visual quiver
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don't know man. first stage I was stuck at was 19-36. did it in one go

pale kettle
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@hidden stone try more until you succeed and put Saveas on the other side to kill Golus faster

tough pendant
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Hi guys, hoping i could get a few pointers. Who to swap out for who, formations etc

idle oriole
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@tough pendant use Belinda and gwyneth they work well at those chapters.. At least for me they did

tough pendant
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Thanks bad!

idle oriole
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👌

restive mauve
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@tough pendant try to get faction bonus with 3 lightbearer for example. I would swap out shemira for belinda for now and focus on leveling saveas.

scenic karma
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ive been stuck at 16-40 for YEARS what do i do ???

restive mauve
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Get more lvl on shemira as she should be your main carry. I pusht from 16-24 to 18-1 with shemira, brutus, arden, lyca, tasi.

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@scenic karma

raven spindle
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Post-M-Shemira I am still getting bulldozed in KT and Campaign (flew through Labyrinth), what should I do?
I am lacking in meta heroes :(

fierce kayak
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@scenic karma 200 Shem, crystal 160/161. You will pass. Then try:
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

And don't L heroes form now on

raven spindle
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I also have a few slots open in my Resonating Crystal if there is anyone I should stick in there

fierce kayak
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@raven spindle becos your Shemira not leveled? Reset Belinda and Shem to 180. Your also have Wilders supports already. Another front just see who works better.. Lucius or..

raven spindle
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Welp I figured. Thank you.

supple condor
fierce kayak
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@supple condor I think borrowing a high Ascneded/level Thane will help here

supple condor
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alrighty, ty!

pale kettle
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been stuck here a lot longer than i like, brutus has been the main problem and the fact that isabelle is right behind him and always gets ult off, and i get completely wrecked if i let the bat boi go off so i've been focusing him (sav in middle usually) but i'm kinda stumped on what to do

grim bison
gentle spoke
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Sos 20-60 dead stuck. Auto repeats not working a thousand times

abstract mountain
wind escarp
fierce kayak
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@wind escarp try to work towards some completion percentage without killing the boss and proceed to next POT. Your level too low to clear the bosses here. Its a tough POT ^_^

wind escarp
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can we reach 60% completion without killing the bosses here?

clear saddle
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Yes

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You just need to clear the camps on the outside and get the gold chests

wind escarp
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i will try im in 45.8% there kicking my ass 😨

clear saddle
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If you can't clear the 240 camps, then theres no way you will be able to handle the bosses

wind escarp
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lol thanks.

clear saddle
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Just saying, most people needed at least 220 shem to beat this and a hell of a lot of rng with relics

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It's best to just get 60% and move on to the next

abstract mountain
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Any advices for me ?

clear saddle
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You just have to wait until you have higher levels in order to 100% solar plane

abstract mountain
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Ah

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Okey so I will stuck for long time right now 🙂

wise merlin
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@abstract mountain Hey 🙂

Try re-arranging the formation :

Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca

If enemy Arden will be interrupted, same as Lyca, it might help!

Give it several tries! It's purely RNG based

abstract mountain
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Should I also upgrade equipment even if it's without fraction?

clear saddle
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@abstract mountain But you can probably clear the campaign you are stuck on. If you shift your shemira and arden top you should be okay.

abstract mountain
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Fraction bonus*

clear saddle
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Only level that to 2/3* max, no higher

wise merlin
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@abstract mountain If it has a faction bonus, do enhance it!

abstract mountain
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It doesn't this is why I am asking is it worth to uprage non-fracton bonus items

clear saddle
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No

wise merlin
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If the shoe fits - . . .

Usually, I'd say not to, but if you believe you're that close to passing it and all you need is the extra stats, I'd say go for it!

abstract mountain
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Okey - thank you 🙂 I will do my best.

wise merlin
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Best of luck to you belindakiss

cloud briar
hushed stratus
clever fern
pale kettle
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Please help
I'm desperate

vagrant goblet
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@pale kettle whats up with the level 100 green dude?

broken egret
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@vagrant goblet try it like this, make sure tasi def is the lowest so silv dashes to her.
arden
Shem
lyca
brut
tasi

pale kettle
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it is a mistake 😂

midnight spade
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I will literally do anything if someone puts me out of my misery and help me with this stage

ember bane
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@wise merlin need line up for 22-8 ty

midnight spade
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@ember bane try this
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca

cloud briar
ember bane
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@midnight spade Silvana jumps on Nemora so Shemira dies quickly and team wipes out

midnight spade
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make her jump on tasi

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like literally even use an elite tasi or E+ tasi in ur crystal and try that

karmic summit
ashen schooner
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Switch Tasi and Belinda, then take out Tasi for Nemora. Try to charm the Saveas, reset if it doesn't happen. @karmic summit

cloud briar
celest latch
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Can't get through the last stage :(

sand kindle
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@midnight spade here a bit of magic:

Shemira
        Brutus
Arden
        Lyca
Nemora```
Roll till u win
midnight spade
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@sand kindle already passed it with like
Shemira
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Arden

loud kernel
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should i make hogan legendary or wait for another thane? any lineup suggestions for campaign push?

analog raven
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What team comp should I be working towards? New player here. Also, I have a choice to pick a faction to receive an elite hero from that faction in the tavern. Which faction should I pick? Thanks in advance

broken egret
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@celest latch try
shem
lyca
nem/arden
brut
tasi
might take quite some retries, but should work

celest latch
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ehm 😦 my nemora, lyca and arden are only E or E+

broken egret
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@celest latch ascension does not matter all that much, you run them for their cc

celest latch
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Equipment? Given that they just instantly die

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Yeah... they are just being instakilled every time

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Nope this lineup isn't working, they die way too fast before they ever launch their cc

twilit wind
pale kettle
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Anybody has ss for floor 275? Enemies are : Double Tasi, Seirus, Ulmus and Ira

gilded walrus
topaz eagle
gilded walrus
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@topaz eagle let me know what you used if you beat it 😂

cloud briar
steel patrol
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(I’ve a free resonating crystal slot)

gilded walrus
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@steel patrol Lyca is really good

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@cloud briar have you tried swapping the formation?

gusty junco
cerulean hamlet
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To make the best use out of fire + ice bringer you're going to want an AoE ultimate like shemira's ult to apply fire + ice to all the enemies. Other than belinda you don't really have any AoE multi-hit ults so that would be part of it @gusty junco

broken egret
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@topaz eagle have you tried something like
tasi
brut
Lyca
shem
arden?

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@topaz eagle possibly switch brut and shem if need be, should do the trick i think

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@gusty junco i feel you would be better off for both campaign and possible vow as well if you start releveling your units. Put all of them at 140 and just put all the extra exp into shem to make her 180

versed hare
broken egret
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@versed hare i would advise to level units differently, make shem overleveled instead of brut. just have brut sit at 161 like all the others and level shem all the way to 200, that should help you move forward quite a bit. But resetting might not be worth it, you can just leave him 170 now, but stop leveling and focus on shem

versed hare
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I'll try that again but I ran into my front line being killed to quick which is why I tried this way

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15-40 has 178 lvl enemies

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Brutus is actually 175 right now, I'll work on shem more

covert jewel
cerulean hamlet
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@covert jewel Try getting an arden but try something like:
Tasi

  • Shemira
    Lyca
  • Brutus
    Nemora
covert jewel
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Tried that a few times, but I’m not optimistic, the maulers just instant kill the wilders. I’ll run it again for awhile see what rng does for me.

cerulean hamlet
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Mostly it's just stalling until tasi + shemira ults which is why arden is quite helpful with his root. Maybe swap the position of Tasi and Nemora is shemira dies too fast too.

wintry trench
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can someone give me any advise, im currently at 7-24
my usual setup is Brutus Khasos Saveas Athalia E&L but i don't know if im missing out anything?

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i could get Hogan/Estrilda to Legendary, but as said, i dont use them

gloomy crest
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any advices on whom I should upgrade next? also have 400k challenger coins. My current setup is Arden Shemira Lyca Tasi Brutus.

cerulean hamlet
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Crystal to 160 then shem to 200, if you're running standard meta then try work on getting shem to A next but use faction scrolls on wilders @gloomy crest Your team is good for up to ch22-23 but yeah. Just keep working on it.

gloomy crest
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ok, thanks. And for all my food in the lightbringers side, who shall I upgrade? I just keep stacking food untill I get a hero that I can upgrade to A? can almost buy 3 Fawkes in shop right now

cerulean hamlet
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I'd honestly wait and see for now read the pinned doc in #classic-questions for some ascension guidelines but I'd probably pray for pulling more lucius for now before deciding on who to ascend for LBs.

scarlet agate
gloomy crest
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ok, thank you @cerulean hamlet

cerulean hamlet
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@scarlet agate You're sufficiently close to shemira 161 and so that she could be a good next focus especially considering you're basically able to run meta team though you do want to work on arden to L+
For now maybe Sav to L+ and 160 then something like
Tasi

  • Brutus
    Lyca
  • Saveas
    Nemora/Arden
    Until Shemira 161/180 then swap sav for shem
scarlet agate
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And what is meta team?

cerulean hamlet
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Meta team is literally Tasi - Lyca - Nemora/Arden - Brutus - Shemira 🙂

scarlet agate
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Ah yea that sojnda about close to what i played with. Read that Nemora was better than Arden, so ascended her first

cerulean hamlet
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Arden at 141 with his root is generally more useful than nemora in campaign unless you need to charm an enemy ferael or something like that. Nemora is better outside of it with her sustain though.

orchid egret
pale kettle
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How to pass Fabled Forest 4 x Skreg?
All my heroes are 200

steel patrol
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You’re all amazing. Thanks for your help.

limpid quail
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@orchid egret who is silvana jumping at? she has to go for tasi so she can teleport away. otherwise the lineup seems fine, maybe nemora for arden to charm kaz

trail forge
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@pale kettle I'm having trouble with the same thing

cerulean hamlet
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@pale kettle Fire + Icebringer combo + Shemira ult/multi hit AoE ult + some control to give you more time to stack fire + ice is the simplest way to beat it.

orchid egret
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She does jump on tasi @limpid quail , i guess i just need to wait and level up my heros then

pale kettle
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thanks

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I got fire but still not enough

limpid quail
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@orchid egret 181 shemira might already help 😉

orchid egret
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I cant get her to 181, i need the rest of my crystal heros at 160....

cerulean hamlet
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getting both will increase your attack when you reduce theirs so if you can't do it with only fire you want both

trail forge
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@cerulean hamlet what heroes are best for that Skreg node with Shemira?

limpid quail
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@trail forge tasi, mehira for aoe cc

cerulean hamlet
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Tasi/Lyca/Mehira/Rosa that follows Shem/Rowan and such

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Anything to buy you time and/or more hits from shem ult will help as shem has chance to apply her ult to all of them at once.

broken egret
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running base meta comp can work just fine as well, just have all ulti charged up and by the time tasi ulti ends shem quite far on her way to the next and fight shouldnt take all that long

scarlet agate
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So @cerulean hamlet I should summon wilders then? I can summon quite a few

cerulean hamlet
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@orchid egret Maybe put tasi behind brutus so silv doesn't go on shemira once tasi blinks away

scarlet agate
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Like 10 x 10

orchid egret
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She already is behind brutus @cerulean hamlet

cerulean hamlet
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Yeah, wilder pulls with faction scrolls are recommended until you have the trio ascended or close to it generally. You can't go wrong with wilder faction pulls.

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Ah, yeah but make sure she always is. Maybe swap the position so Shem and arden are at the top though since Kaz + belinda might take down Shem faster than she can ult + sustain.

scarlet agate
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Damn, 3 blues and two purps in a pull! Shame it was Eironn mostly

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And 3 legendaries and 4 blues in next! What is this! 😮

vale hemlock
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Best lineup for guild bosses? :C

cerulean hamlet
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Wrizz:
Shemira + Rosaline + Rowan + Lucius + Twins/Belinda

Soren
Shemira + Rosaline + Lucius + Grezhul + Twins @vale hemlock

trail forge
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@cerulean hamlet I tried a few variations but still just getting clobbered...what order should I be going with and what artifacts where? I'm going to restart the quest a few times to see if I can get a better relic combo, too

cerulean hamlet
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err well, Mehira in back middle, shemira and I'd probably run brutus over 4 supports so
Tasi

  • Brutus
    Mehira
  • Shemira
    Rosaline

Which relics do you have currently actually?

scarlet agate
cerulean hamlet
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@scarlet agate read the pinned document in #classic-questions But currently? Don't ascend anyone yet but you can bring eironn to L+ once you have the fodder for it.

vale hemlock
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Thanks so much @cerulean hamlet !

cerulean hamlet
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Np! 🙂

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@trail forge I just realized you weren't the one who said you had firebringer, The support/control strat only works if you have at least firebringer and ideally fire + ice or poison as it's meant to optimize survivability with firebringer procs to reduce enemy attack.

trail forge
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@cerulean hamlet I just had Fire but reset a few times and now I can get both, just have to work my way back to the end. I'm going to try the lineup you suggested with Brutus but switch Tasi and Rosaline maybe? Tasi keels over too fast which may change with the better relics, but Rosaline survives

cerulean hamlet
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As long as you make sure tasi has her ult when the battle begins you just want to chain tasi into mehira while shemira's ult is active for as many triggers of firebringer as possible. Neither of them should take that much damage if done right.

mellow shuttle
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Should i switch in rosaline for someone or what should i change.

wise merlin
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Nemora (charm Arden)
Hogan
Belinda
Estrilda
Saveas

mellow shuttle
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No rosaline?

wise merlin
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Give it a shot! got nothing to lose ^^

pale kettle
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Been trying to kill 13-40 for a few days but was wondering if anyone could give me some lineup advice on which to use please.

cerulean hamlet
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@pale kettle Do you have any Lyca at all?

pale kettle
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Only Elite

cerulean hamlet
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That's fine.
Tasi

  • Brutus
    Lyca
  • Saveas
    Arden

Try something like that maybe.

wise merlin
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Literally the formation I was about to propose! 😂 ^

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If that doesn't work, swap places of Tasi and Lyca!

pale kettle
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Ill give it a shot, thanks

haughty comet
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I would put Tasi where you have Saveas.

mellow shuttle
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Still cant get trough @wise merlin

pale kettle
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It worked! Thanks guys

mellow shuttle
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Tried like 30 times

wise merlin
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@mellow shuttle What is your Hogan's level and equipment? Maybe some more AFK time enhancing would help? :?

mellow shuttle
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Maybe a new team all together?

wise merlin
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Saveas is a strong carry... I don't see why you wouldn't pass though I guess his peak would be at level 121....

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You could try new tactics. maybe even free up slots for new heroes and try them out.

mellow shuttle
wise merlin
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A Brutus would've been extremely useful... maybe a Graveborn hero? so Estrilda won't completely annhiliate them due to Faction Disadvantage?

dense veldt
sage sage
dense veldt
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Try Brutus ,Thane Lyca ,Nem maybe Arden or Tasi @sage sage

sage sage
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@dense veldt didn’t work :/ can’t even take down 1 of them

trail forge
cerulean whale
cerulean hamlet
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Did you get both fire + ice already? If yes I'd honestly go helmet since your main problem is surviving until you reduce their attack enough @trail forge

trail forge
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@cerulean hamlet I did...I'll go that route then. Thanks for your help!

cerulean hamlet
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Good luck! :)

@cerulean whale Thane over numisu for sure, otherwise maybe gwyn over khasos but I'm not sure how good gwyn is at that low level.

cerulean whale
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@cerulean hamlet I use numisu for totem to get him away from my hero's but I'll try it. Thanks.

vast bobcat
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Any suggestions?

cerulean hamlet
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@vast bobcat Try

Gwyneth

  • Shemira
    Athalia
  • Brutus/Hogan
    Fawkes
vast bobcat
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Thanks will give it a shot

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Got it on 2nd try, thanks man @cerulean hamlet

cerulean hamlet
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Nice!

trail forge
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Took a few tries but I finally got it and was able to finish the whole voyage. Thanks again, @cerulean hamlet !

mortal atlas
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@sage sage you can make an OP team use brutus and saevas/thane/silvina in front. Use lyca nemora tasi in back

pale kettle
mortal atlas
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@pale kettle , tasi over arden????? also maybe try all lightbeares with lucius and estrilda in front and belinda rowan fawkes in the back

pale kettle
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Ok

sturdy gust
pale kettle
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Belinda, all the way

hushed stratus
sly sparrow
brittle maple
fickle tree
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I just got my shem to 240 and beat it easy @brittle maple

broken egret
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@brittle maple i think you might have to use Arden this stage to cc the tasi to make sure shem isn't banished.

sturdy gust
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@pale kettle thanks that worked

fickle tree
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@hushed stratus build only lightborns

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@sly sparrow switch Shem with Lyca, then replace that old man with healer. and switch place with Tasi and Lyca

hushed stratus
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@fickle tree ^

fickle tree
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not much I see

hushed stratus
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Yeah, feels like i'm in trouble here

rigid dragon
fickle tree
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I guess wait till you get more heros? @hushed stratus Like Hogan would be great in early games

hushed stratus
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Yeah prob, not sure what i can do to get some heroes without advancing

fickle tree
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@rigid dragon Lucios, Shemira Both can tank. Put backline for lightborn. For example Estrilda and other. Can see

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Jow get blue heros to elite plus

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lighborns at to elite+ @hushed stratus try to do daily hunts, Lab and just daily missions and all. U dont have to progress with story all the time

woven sedge
rigid dragon
hushed stratus
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Yeah, i'm doing every content i can, guess this will be some big wait time, happens thanks for the input @fickle tree

fickle tree
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eyyy :D

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@hushed stratus I usually wait for a month to clear a chapter T_T

hushed stratus
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D: god damn

fickle tree
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yea XDD

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will take a lot of time for f2p

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@woven sedge ok what I see is that you can have faction advantage by going only lightborn and make sure to have Shemira with you ;)

floral cargo
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Thats my alt btw

woven sedge
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@Taljat#9157 My lightborns sucks tho :(

soft dragon
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@floral cargo i recommend resetting Shem and overleveling Belinda instead. Shemira isn’t a phenomenal carry early game, and Belinda gets faction advantage against most of that level while Shem takes more damage from Kaz.

heady wave
floral cargo
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So u mean, reset shem and level up beeliii as much as i can?

heady wave
#

I seem to be gettinf stuxk every 2-3 stages at the end of chapter 9

soft dragon
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@floral cargo take Belinda to 81+ and level Shem to 66 ish instead, essentially swap their levels to beat the stage

floral cargo
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Yas okay kaz stan

floral cargo
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So which line up should i get? @soft dragon

soft dragon
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@floral cargo I would first try with Wilder trio + Ulmus + Belinda. Put Belinda in a corner and then put Ulmus in front of Belinda. Place Nem in the middle and try to charm Kaz. Place Arden in the other corner, and Lyca in the other front spot.

heady wave
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Im getting stuck every 2-3 stages at the end of chapter 9, any help?

floral cargo
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Okau @soft dragon gives 5 kaz copies

soft dragon
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@floral cargo Are you placing Ulmus in front of Golus, or is Lyca in front of Golus?

haughty plover
fickle tree
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@woven sedge Can I see ur box ?

floral cargo
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@soft dragon ulmus is infront of golus

soft dragon
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@floral cargo Ok then you may have to AFK for a while and level up Ulmus so that he can tank Golus better. The other thing you could try in the meantime is swapping out Rosaline for either Arden or Nemora, and seeing if that makes a difference.

floral cargo
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Okay

soft dragon
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@haughty plover try to charm Arden so that he roots the enemy team. To do this you will need to swap Nemora's position with Tasi.

haughty plover
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@soft dragon nothing else ?

fickle tree
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ok ok guys help me out. I have been stuck her for 3 weeks now

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22-26

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nvm nvm

soft dragon
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@haughty plover not that I can think of, looking at what you have. Other than afking for more levels, of course.

ashen schooner
#

Arden
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi @haughty plover

soft dragon
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Mei to the rescue!

heady wave
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Im losing my mind, stuck here for 3 days already

woven sedge
sly sparrow
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Same im stuck at my lvl too

woven sedge
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Ty for the help, I appreciate y

haughty comet
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Just got Mehira on an alt. Wondering what the best way to fit her into a comp. Any help is appreciated.

fickle tree
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So if you planning to build lightborn team then you sohuld go
Shemira Lucios
Rosaline Belinda Estrilda

but if Lucios dies too fast then try
Shemira Brutus
Tasi Lyca Arden/Nemora

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@woven sedge

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well how I played it was Shemira and Brutus as tanks, then Nemora , Tasi and Lyca backline @pale kettle

whole terrace
fickle tree
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U dont have that faction buff tho. try go with Maulers bc you have faction advantage. If it wont work then brainstorm with random teams. I see you have many options. Lyca Nemora and Tasi could work good. @whole terrace

woven sedge
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I've tried those combos and nothing dies on the enemy side at any given time. I'll wait a bit or something before trying again.

heady wave
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Im really desperate to get through this as im stuck for 3 days already

mossy loom
copper moon
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@mossy loom
Try

Tasi
---- Lyca
Arden
---- Brutus
Shemira

sly sparrow
mossy loom
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My team gets shredded in seconds 😭 @copper moon

bitter creek
copper moon
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@mossy loom
Try

Nemora
---- Lyca
Tasi
---- Shemira
Arden

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@bitter creek
Try

Gwyneth
---- Golus
Saveas
---- Skreg
Lyca

mossy loom
gusty junco
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@broken egret thank you, it actually worked I reseted all my heroes just to lvlup shemira to 180 and not only she helped me to beat the voyage but also let me to complete the whole chapter 13 and half of chapter 14, she is so powerful, I have underestimated her.

mossy loom
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Sick, that lineup helped me. @copper moon 😄

rigid dragon
copper moon
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@sly sparrow
Try

Nemora
---- Lyca
Arden
---- Brutus
Shemira

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rigid dragon
pale kettle
mossy loom
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Not annoying, it’s good you’re asking! Haha @pale kettle something along the lines of Shem / Belinda / Brutus / maybe Saveas

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Keltur and Grezhul are good but I think they shine more in late game

pale kettle
woven sedge
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I'll wait till I get a mercenary tank

sly sparrow
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@copper moon nem should charm ira?

hidden stone
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This is my 3rd alt it’s pretty good in my opinion but idk where to put everyone

spring lily
mortal atlas
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@spring lily , drop mireal and use lucius saevas and belinda/arden, nemora tasi

spring lily
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@mortal atlas thanks mate I'll try it

topaz eagle
spring lily
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@mortal atlas yeah good shout, the 3 Wilders done enough cc. Even managed to beat the 11-36 boss with a similar lineup (swapped tasi for lyca) 👌

pale kettle
vital robin
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Try
Fawkes
---brutus
Lucius
---rowen
Saveas

pale kettle
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ok thank you

vital robin
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If not switch fawkes and saveas around and put nemora where fawkes is

elfin cargo
pale kettle
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Lucius always dies before ult

vital robin
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You need lucius to use his ult try
Fawkes
---brutus
Rowan
--- nemora
Lucius

oak lance
bleak robin
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oh yikes... i would say either gb / mauler or gb / wilder, avoiding LB. especially avoiding belinda.

mossy solar
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Looking for suggestions on a good core group to use to level with; will also have another legendary option through Labyrinth Store before long. Any advice?

bleak robin
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people will typically say to use saveas early.

mossy solar
spiral fern
outer burrow
bleak robin
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Its possible you may have to take tier guides with a grain of salt in the first place, with regards to synergy because you never know if it will owrk or not.

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@spiral fern might need to replace one of your backline. Belinda dies very fast for me personally, so that's the hero I see as a liability.

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maybe swap lucius and door man (forgot his name)

spiral fern
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Might try that have to find a damage dealer lol

bleak robin
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You can add 2 maulers instead of 5 lb

spiral fern
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Tried that also but they got wrecked lol

bleak robin
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To test that, run the level and view your statistics and see what hero you can possibly replace with one of your maulers (Skreg, Ankhira, Safiya)

spiral fern
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Sweet let me run the test and see what everyone's doing

bleak robin
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You can also try Wilder and GB if those units are decent enough for you.

spiral fern
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That's what my lineup is doing now

bleak robin
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Can you CC enemy back line? I notice Mirael being an issue in damage.

spiral fern
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Not sure lol still fairly new to the game lol

bleak robin
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Also- are you able to hire a merc?

CC would be like Arden, Tasi, Ulmus, Skreg (to an extent)

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I say Skreg because he can disrupt enemy lines and toss enemies into the air.

spiral fern
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Used Merc earlier this week so have to wait untill reset lol tried to use the spider to concoon her but she didn't have most health lol

mossy solar
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Anyone able to PM with with some direction on my lineup?

copper moon
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@spiral fern
Try

Twins
---- Lucius
Belinda
---- Skreg
Nemora

sage sage
alpine jolt
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@sage sage

  1. Thane
  2. Brutus
  3. Rosa
  4. Belinda
  5. Saveas

Put best gear on Saveas

abstract shuttle
alpine jolt
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@abstract shuttle

  1. Lyca
  2. Shemira
  3. Brutus
  4. Tasi
  5. Arden
abstract shuttle
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Ty

tranquil citrus
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i would say rosaline over arden, or even farael

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anything to deal w the heals

wet inlet
torn lava
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@wet inlet id go rowan gwyneth rosaline belinda lucius

wet inlet
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Alright cheers

spiral fern
hidden stone
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That’s from 2 hours ago I did my kings tower and I was able to get Lucius L+

outer burrow
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you could try switching belinda around with rosa

pale kettle
#

Please help me
12-40

copper moon
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@vital robin
Try

Nemora
---- Grezhul
Rowan
---- Brutus
Belinda

bitter creek
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Khaos and brutus are a mean combo

hidden stone
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Brutus is easy if you have fawkes

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Fawkes ult cancels his immunity and if his ult isn’t catching the immunity don’t run auto wait till he geos immune then pop fawkes ult

bitter creek
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@copper moon the combo was no good I may have to level more as cav is max level for his E status or until I get another E Sav

copper moon
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@pale kettle
Try

Nemora
---- Brutus
Rosaline
---- Lucius
Gwyneth

Change gear around so the number under the portraits make Rosaline and Gwyneth the highest

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@bitter creek
Who did Silvina attack

pale kettle
bitter creek
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I had they kill golus then skreg the. Gwyn and sav

copper moon
bitter creek
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Khaos just gets OP and melts my tanks

pale kettle
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Oh ok

pale kettle
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Vedan os Lucius

crystal sky
#

What merc can I request to help pass this stage? My guild has most ascended with decent sig item levels

oak lance
crystal sky
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@hidden stone post what you have and I’ll give it a shot to help you get past your wall

hidden stone
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@crystal sky that’s all I got I’m struggling with luck

pale kettle
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Best pvp line up. Shem/Lucius/Fawkes/Ronan/tasi prove me wrong

crystal sky
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@hidden stone try Brutus, Shem, Arden, lyca, tasi. If Arden lives long enough to get his vines off you may pull it off

hidden stone
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I’ve done that

crystal sky
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@hidden stone try putting Shem backline with lyca in front. Shem stacked behind Brutus for a few extra seconds to get the ult off

hidden stone
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She still deosnt ult

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I got it I had to use my normal team with a lot diffrent placement

crystal sky
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Nice, congrats!

feral relic
solar rover
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Why on earth do you have 10 heroes levelled

mint ledge
wet inlet
fierce kayak
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@wet inlet pinned message at #classic-questions will help you. Early game tips. Savaes is a better carry.. else Belinda for u. Overlevel carry 20 to 4p levels ahead.

bitter creek
wet inlet
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@fierce kayak so Belinda will be better than gwyneth ?

fierce kayak
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@wet inlet gwy is new.. mot sure about her. Anyway your Belinda is L+

wet inlet
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Oki

crude drift
limpid pewter
pale kettle
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Does anyone know what would be the best formation I can make for Soren? 👀

next flame
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@feral relic bro reset your heroes omg. You have like 10 141s use those resources on someone else

brittle forum
rich snow
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Try putting Tasi in place of like Raine or Athalia or something. CC makes a world of difference oftentimes.

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Whenever I get stuck, I'll fire off Mehira, Arden, Tasi in all different spots just to see what happens.

brittle forum
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Ok thank you so much @rich snow

rich snow
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👍

dawn edge
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@limpid pewter use Belinda I stead of saveas

copper moon
dawn edge
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Your Belinda is same as mine and she solo carry me threw all of chapter 14 by herself @limpid pewter

zinc osprey
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I'm low on essence.

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But stuck.

copper moon
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@zinc osprey
Try

Nemora
---- Brutus
Tasi
---- Shemira
Nara/Athalia

zinc osprey
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Thanks Tasi died instantly but I won.

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@copper moon Thank you.

misty raven
keen sphinx
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Can’t even make a dent in solar plane is it supposed to be this hard? Brutus 200 rest 161

cosmic kestrel
haughty tide
worthy bane
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Try this
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Khasos
Tasi

Aim for charm on Vurk poison vial, should help

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@keen sphinx Solar Plane is rough. Seriously hardest peak

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@cosmic kestrel Shem, buffers, and Grez/Baden to tank the mind control should work decently

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@misty raven Looks rough. Try
Belinda
Brutus
Gwyneth/Mehira
Thoran
Thane

supple zodiac
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18-40 man. Help 😭

alpine rock
worthy bane
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@supple zodiac
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Go for charm on arden if you're fast enough.

supple zodiac
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@worthy bane thank ya, that’s my normal setup. Athalia sometimes attacks arden if I get lucky and have her in middle; been trying to have her attack shem instead which I’ve almost got but obviously not 🤣 I’ve been praying to the RNG gods every morning and night.

worthy bane
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@supple zodiac Your goal should be to beat Arden fast. The rest shouldn't matter much

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@alpine rock Maybe Rosa instead of Belinda? The fight seems rough to begin with

alpine rock
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@worthy bane rosa will follow saveas tho.

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@worthy banewould still try. Ty!

worthy bane
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@alpine rock Correct. That's what you want

alpine rock
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@worthy bane will play around ur suggestion. Hope i get good rng. Thank you!

oak lance
worthy bane
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@oak lance
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Try for Nem charm on Fereal roar while Arden roots the rest. Will take rng

daring epoch
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@feral relic bruh, you're wasting so many resources. Reset all of your heroes that aren't mythic and above. pour all your exp/gold/dust into your 5 highest ascended toons. put everyone else on the crystal.

true portal
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hey guys im at the last chest before the skreg boss in fabled forrest now

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i have ice and fire bringer, this chest gives poision embrace, crit/accuracy, which one should i get?

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posion embrace sounds good but only work for normal attacks?

outer pike
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I can ascend belinda using mireal bt i use mireal in my lineup

candid surge
outer pike
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Should i ascend belinda or wait until she is level walled

candid surge
worthy bane
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@candid surge Try
Tasi
Thoran/Lucius
Lyca
Brutus
Shemira/Fereal.
Some can be moved around

candid surge
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Ok

worthy bane
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My Lineup for 22-42 was
200 M+ Tasi
200 M+ Thoran
200 M Lyca
200 M+ Brutus
240 A Shemira

pallid lake
#

Bet

outer pike
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11-24 help please and thank you i tried switching lucius and ogi it didnt work

worthy bane
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Have you tried Tasi over Mireal @outer pike?

outer pike
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No i have not i will try that brb

sonic stone
outer pike
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@worthy bane that did not work

sonic stone
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Any ideas? I have purple and purple+ armor, do I just need to wait weeks for diamonds for heroes to ascend? Lol

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Its 9-20

worthy bane
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@outer pike Can you send a screenshot of the damage recap after another 1 or 2

outer pike
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How do i get a damage recap

worthy bane
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@outer pike Do the battle, then you'll see a tab in the bottom right I believe before leaving the defeat/victory screen

outer pike
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Ok i will try brb

sonic stone
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Arty you are F2P at floor 279? Dang

worthy bane
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@sonic stone It's been a weird 7 months, also just spend some time farming. Try a few times a day, but 9-20 is an infamously hard stage

misty raven
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I’m stuck at 9-20 also

sonic stone
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What do you mean spend some time farming? Just.... afk right LOL

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Nice hey Mangaroo, GL lol

worthy bane
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@sonic stone Try out some comps for guild hunts, work on kings tower, lab runs, ect. There's still farm to get. I'm not at stage 23 for nothing

misty raven
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GL to you too hahah

sonic stone
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Right true, good call

misty raven
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I’ve gotten close but that nemora is a pain to take out

sonic stone
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We need Athalias lol, what comp are you using?

outer pike
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11-26 now somehow passed 11-24 by shear luck

worthy bane
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@outer pike Luck is how I pass every stage lol

sonic stone
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Lol

misty raven
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I posted in here a couple hours ago and was suggested

Belinda
Brutus
Rosa/mehira
Thoran
Thane

sonic stone
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Lol I have 2 of those 6 haha

worthy bane
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@misty raven That was probably my suggestion lol.

misty raven
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Probably. No luck yet in case you were wondering lol

worthy bane
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@misty raven Who does Rosa follow when you use her?

misty raven
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Thoran

worthy bane
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That's the issue. Try and mess with your levels/gear a bit to make her follow Belinda

misty raven
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That’ll be tough to do. Thoran is L+ and Belinda is just L

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Thoran has an 11k advantage on her rn

worthy bane
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Then mess with gear. 1 attack rating is all it takes

visual quiver
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take the gear from thoran

misty raven
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He’s still at 37.5... rip

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And Belinda has the best gear I can get her rn

cloud briar
worthy bane
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@cloud briar Move rowan away from Belinda maybe? It should be winnable for sure

cloud briar
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thanks!

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oh yes it worked. thanks! can i ask what's the rationale for doing that? @worthy bane

worthy bane
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@cloud briar Keeps Silvinia away from your Belinda, lets her stay healthier and overall just gives your bottom side more space

cloud briar
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ah i see. thank you once again! appreciate it

clear saddle
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@pale kettle tasi instead of nemora, then swap brutus and shem position

pale kettle
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All time fawkes took shemira

wind hornet
clear saddle
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@pale kettle you need arden to root the fawkes, if that doesnt happen, reset

pale kettle
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Ok

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Its funny, fawkes got root from arden and stun from tasi, still took shemira xD

clear saddle
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Your arden should root and cancel his coffin animation. maybe you can replace tasi with nemora, and put her opposite fawkes to try and charm him so he doesnt coffin your heroes

pale kettle
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Look fawkes and shemira.

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Nemora didnt help.

clear saddle
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what artifact are you running on arden?

pale kettle
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Nothing

clear saddle
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i usually have eye on him. this improves his root speed

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maybe give that a shot?

pale kettle
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Still took shemira.

clear saddle
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Might need to use athalia instead of tasi then

meager mist
#

best 4 supports and artifact for Shem on wrizz ?

pale kettle
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Nothing. Only Nara can stun fawkes

meager mist
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im guessing blade for shem... kinda no-brainer

clear saddle
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Hmm... let me see if i took a screenshot of the stage. what number is it?

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@pale kettle i cleared it using the lineup i recommended you the first time, do you have good boots on arden?

pale kettle
clear saddle
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Hmm interesting, congratulations anyway

pale kettle
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Xdd only Nara can stuns fawkes. Thx

abstract mountain
void dock
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So your tasi is die before she release the ulti right?

abstract mountain
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Will check

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Nemora is almost onehitted 😛

void dock
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Emm...
So silvina target is nemora right?
Shemira and tasi can release their ultimate? @abstract mountain

And let me know where do u put the artifact

abstract mountain
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Shemira yes but not in every fight Tasi not

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Shemira got dodge 12 and health 10%
Arden crit 7 movement 7
LYCA: Acc: 15 atk5%
Tasi: MR 5

void dock
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Please try a few times and let me know wether tasi and shem can release their ultimate or not

wild kayak
void dock
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Have u try
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca

@wild kayak

And where do u put dura call and blade?

abstract mountain
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Tasi and SHem can;t cast ulties togheter

void dock
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Oh okay...
Try to give shemira dura eye and give tasi dura call...

abstract mountain
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Little bit better but still something is missing 😛 at least now 2 ulties can be togheter

void dock
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Okay... nice to know that... how many enemies left??

abstract mountain
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5 My Friend 😛

void dock
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No joke... 😂 😂 😂

abstract mountain
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I am not joking 😛

void dock
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I think you should wait for others opinion... sorry cant help much dude

abstract mountain
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Okey - anyway thank you for your time 🙂

void dock
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No worries smug_dolly

tired lynx
wild kayak
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@void dock I have call on nemora blade on shemira also tried that line up my shemira is getting absolutely wrecked

void dock
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You should try to give call to tasi :) @wild kayak

wild kayak
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I’ll give that a go anyone in particular to give grace too?

broken egret
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@wild kayak have you tried YouTube? Most stages have setups on there which you can copy

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However might be really hard since ur shem is only 200

karmic summit
wild kayak
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@broken egret I have but still no luck and yea not having an ascended shem is killing me but the afk arena gods do not favor me in getting shems. Lol every single one of my shems is from labyrinth have never pulled her from scrolls. So it’s been a long and slow process even getting her to where she is now lol

broken egret
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@wild kayak how many copies are you still away?

untold rivet
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I think your shem is better than my shem, Dotcom.

sleek portal
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@untold rivet you're actually considered overleveled for that level. i'd try saveas brutus frontline, backline top to bottom arden lyca nemora, i might swap position between the wilder trios depending on who i want to charm/kill first. you'd want to charm either brutus/isabella/khasos, but i'd generally say charm brutus or isabella, you want to stall top as long as possible because of golus's skills

wild kayak
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@broken egret unfortunately 3

broken egret
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@wild kayak if you have enough coins you could also consider resetting shop, which is quite expensive tho. Also you could consider having lyca 240 instead of nem so you at least have a higher dmg carry

untold rivet
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Thanks f2p. I was using Tasi instead of Lyca.

wild kayak
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@broken egret yea diamonds isn’t the issue it’s the coins. Didn’t even consider resetting nem for lyca I’ll give that ago. I may end up just dropping some coin and buy all the faction scrolls from shop and dump them into graveborn should hit vip 13 from it aswell lol

oak lance
broken egret
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@wild kayak okay up to you, and hope it works out

toxic flame
bitter creek
untold rivet
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@bitter creek try Silvina instead of Lyca. Or Estrilda instead of Lyca. If you do estrilda swap positions with skreg

clear saddle
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@untold rivet silvina will jump tasi, yes? maybe try:

Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

untold rivet
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Tasi dies instantly to Vurk and Silvina. The rest fall quickly @clear saddle . I managed a win after a slight order change and a great upgrade to Arden's gear.

void dock
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@untold rivet
Lyca
Saveas
Arden
Brutus
Nemora

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If it not working switch saveas with lyca

sleek portal
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@untold rivet swap tasi for nemora, thne put nemora bottom back to charm saveas. arden top back to lock 3.

untold rivet
#

I ended up swapping the positions of my wilders in reverse of suggested to be able to win. Thanks for the suggestions, they did help

warm mauve
half cloud
#

Is it impossible to pass the 21-60 level without a 240 hero?

shadow girder
warm mauve
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@half cloud donno i know i reseted my lyca to 200 instead 220 so i could get shemira to 240 to beat stage

untold rivet
#

DLN, try dropping saveus down, and then replacing the center backline with Belinda.

unreal solar
#

Arden over numisu

astral remnant
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@shadow girder Have you tried shemira where antandra is? I started using shemira as a tank when she was 80

half cloud
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@warm mauve i have shemira at 220 but the other team all 200...should i wait 40k dust for shem?

unreal solar
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Didn't use shem until 161 Sav before then

shy crag
warm mauve
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@half cloud i did that 😂😂 its hard stage 22 even worse

shadow girder
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@astral remnant nope doesnt help

unreal solar
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240 shem before the others to 220

half cloud
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@warm mauve damn :S 40k is reaaaaally long to wait 😦

warm mauve
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@half cloud i know dust is hard to come by im sitting on 500m exp wich i cant use

astral remnant
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Also drop nemora and numisu,Put Belinda/Arden,Arden can root a couple enemies so they cant attack for a few seconds. Put saveas on the bottom behind shemira and put arden in the middle then belinda top so it looks like

Belinda
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Saveas

@shadow girder

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Hopefully that helps

shadow girder
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@astral remnant just tried. that was even worse. nobody got to even ult.

warm mauve
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Belinda is so slow on her ult dude

astral remnant
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Hmm I don't understand then,I ran similar comps and did fine

shadow girder
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its cause my heros are all shit, cant get anyone to L

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my carries literally are the same level as the enemy and i cant do shit. get like a couple of pulls at the tavern if im lucky andits almost never mauler stuff that i need. i seriously have like so much garbage graveborn fodder

void dock
clear saddle
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@void dock Used arden instead of nemora and estrilda instead of thane.

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Need your shemira to kill the thane that jumps her then get good rng with ult

void dock
#

Noted... never expect to use arden again actually 😂
But am i underlevel for this floor?

Its better but still need a few tries...
Thx dude @clear saddle

warm mauve
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@void dock arden still has uses its rlly weaird haha

astral remnant
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@untold rivet Have you tried putting brutus where saveas is? You usually want to brutus V brutus

untold rivet
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I have, but I will try again

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