#lineup-help
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@strange glen did you try swapping nemora and lyca?
@pale kettle On stream π
This is at lab hard modehad to choose this node to get to the little goblin after, any ideas???
little goblin
@strange glen nope Shemira doesn't survive to ult and brutus dies a bit after
little goblin
I cant get that Lucious down
It will need rng but you could try
Lyca. Nemora
Shemira. Brutus
Nemora. Shemira
Brutus. Lyca
Tasi. Tasi
You need to charm Arden so he would root kaz atleast since you don't have arden @pale kettle
I have Arden 161 L +. Shemira gets one shot front line each time @still oar
Oh you can try Arden in place of nemora @pale kettle. Yes, she will since you are not overleveled that's why it's a heavy rng. You need to shut kaz to buy shemira and tasi something time to charge energy. Even then it's not 100%.
Some time not something
@pale kettle tbh I would just slap an arden where nemora is and place Brutus in Lucious spot
@unkempt pier thanks i just passed it
This is being annoying for once lmao
@inland kite you can try this one, if it's 19-38
i didnt update but i already beat it
Why the hell does this Ira get to be indestructible AND wipe out 3 of my heroes each time she ults?
She DESTROYS Shem wearing M+ robes.
Every ult of Ira's kills one of my heroes. 21-54
@umbral badger
What would be a good lineup ?
@indigo jolt Thanks! I've got to get them before Ira shreds my team.
@umbral badger Tasi ult before or after Ira? If beforr just manual ult and you can interrupt it.
Weird: I can't do it even with a much stronger team.
Anything I can do for 6-20?
Switch athalia to hit one of the blue marked guys in the back. Might be a good idea to put shemira in gwyneths place too
I'm stuck on that stage they kill any formation of myself within seconds. No way I'm able to beat it in the next couple of days I guess
im stuck on this
@brisk slate
Try
Tasi
---- Shemira
Arden
---- Lucius
Lyca
@opaque wave try swapping Arden for Nemora
this lion keeps screwing me everytime i fight him
I managed to win. Thanks
Thanks well not there yet but I Wil keep trying
this ws the winning comp
Any way I can get past this?
@distant matrix do you have arden?
I mean, yeah but not a legendary+
Try:
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
If you don't have Tasi, try Nemora. But i beat this level with that team..Shemira 170 rest 141 @distant matrix
20-21 any advice?
@distant matrix try
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Arden/tasi
You want nemora to charm farael
@tepid current
Try
Athalia
---- Brutus
Tasi
---- Lyca
Shemira
@copper moon doesn't work :( shemira dies right after she ults or even before sometimes.
@tepid current do you have a Lucius
E+
Try
Athalia
---- Lucius
Tasi
---- Brutus
Shemira
Rip. Warek flip one shots lucius
@tepid current try swapping Lucius and Brutus
Anything I'm missing or just not high enough lvl on shem?
@broken egret
I can try that and I'll just put brut for luci I guess
@copper moon ive got no clue how that's supposed to work, shem perma banished and others just get run down in the mean time
@broken egret you have to get lucky with where Tasi teleports. Mehira whips her to stop the banish.
Ye doesn't work even when she doesn't banish, either my tasi or mehira dies before their ulti at that point both ulmus and nem ult and it's over
@broken egret I guess the Lucius was important XD sorry I couldn't help
Ye it's fine, who had call for you?
Mehira
@broken egret maybe it will work since it's pre sigs
Yeah E+ lucius isn't good enough I think @copper moon when swapped with Brutus enemy shemira kills with 2 autos. 1 if it crits lol
Ye think I tried that, but think my shem is too weak. @copper moon even with call on mehira she ults after ulmus already ults
Do u remember how u passed 20-21 @broken egret?
@tepid current
Try
Athalia
---- Brutus
Tasi
---- Lyca
Shemira
You suggested that the first time. Team dies too quick
@tepid current would have to sent lineup
Oh I did woops
@broken egret
I thibk i would do the same with arden instead of nem
And whenever shem dies too fast lyca in front and shem bottom behind her
Haallllppp. Everyone dies so fast, am i just underleveled?
@pale kettle nah should be fine with those levels I think
Ok that eventually worked using arden
Try
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Brut
Arden
Alright
@tepid current ye I figured, but ur gonna be stuck soonish. Need a few more shem levels on 1 of the coming levels with the silv I think. So doing 48 hours on a stage now and on that stage wouldn't be a bad idea
Tasi dieing before getting ult off, but it's close. Will give this some RNG time π
Anything I can do?
i've tried lyca and the articfact changes and lineup changes and atleast 100 rng attempts still no luck looking for something i haven't seen even tried fawkes but he dies before he coffins anyone somehow
He probably dies before coffin because enemy team has haste (lyca) and you don't. Have you tried getting lyca in to speed up your CC?
you think i should replace nem or arde4n
@knotty tree units are almost fine try
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Brut
Nem
Probably does the trick, make sure nem charms arden so he roots his own team
Hi any advice for 21-44 ?
I need help please
@broken egret I did not think of that at all TYVM if i beat this before reset hits i get 2 20 wilder faction pulls and maybe a A nem THANKS
@knotty tree 1 quick tip, if nem charm is too slow, give her better boots, should do the trick. Just give her the best boots you have
@versed canopy try
Lyca
Brut
Shem
Athalia
Tasi
Oops, sorry wrong order
@versed canopy
Athalia
Lyca
Shem
Brut
Tasi
Or
Tasi
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Shem
@versed canopy
19-24, I've searched the history here and tried every possible meta lineup.. is it possible my garbage 'rare' level arden is the limiting factor that's keeping me stuck?
@slim schooner
Try
Arden
---- Shemira
Nara
---- Brutus
Tasi
@slim schoonerarden definitely isn't the problem lol mines still rare
This is the lineup that did it for me, I just took the screenshot on a different stage, but lineup is correct @slim schooner
Need some help with Wilder tower floor 81.
@slim schooner however leveling shem to 200 instead of brut will help you a shit ton
@slim schooner also make shem at least 201 and you should breeze through it
My crystal isn't even 180 so my shem stuck at 200, chapter 19 should be easy with 201 shem and 180 crystal
@slim schooner Try
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Give call to tasi, blade to shem and drape to brutus.
Retry until tasi teleports behind brutus
stuck on this level. any help is appreciated. iβve tried many things but no luck
@keen lion it's best not to evenly level your heroes, you want to over level certain ones to make them carry you
I would reset everyone else to 140/141 and put all exp into Belinda
alright thanks iβll give it a go @random verge
Once you get enough exp, make shemira and brutus 161 lol you will roll through a lot
i need 1 more copy of brutus to get him to M+
@keen lion if that doesn't work I would try the same thing with shemira, and use
Shemira
Lyca
Gorvo
Brutus
Nemora
Make her max level I mean
yeah i got ya. thanks man appreciate the help
No problem
Currently stuck on this floor. I normally use Lucius Brutus Frontline and tasi saveas +1. What should I work on for my +1, Khasos?
@wind hornet
Try
Estrilda
---- Brutus
Saveas
---- Lucius
Tasi
Any recommendations for wrizz in the labyrinths hard mode? I can usually beat hard mode but I hardly can kill more then half of wrizz hp
Depends on your relics but luc+timeless shield combined with Baden and Rosaline support should be good comp @tawdry cypress
@tawdry cypress might have been bad luck with relics try
Baden, Lucius, Belinda, Rosaline, Shemira
hello, who should i be focusing on my first 5?
Help please tower 248
@sharp hornet
Try
Arden
---- Brutus
Lyca
---- Shemira
Tasi/Nemora
@steep ibex focus on leveling Saveas
Okey
could you help me too? @copper moon
@cloud briar Saveas
what about the other 4?
@copper moon ty β€
@copper moon Thanks that was much closer. Any thoughts on this faction tower 85
@cloud briar your carry person should be 20 to 40 levels ahead of the rest of your squad
oh i see. alright then! thank you so much
@sharp hornet only on 81, but definitely get Eironn in your crystal
@copper moon even at just E?
@sharp hornet
@copper moon @still oar I got a mythic baden from hard mode and Rowan from map 1(was forced to select a ally hero) and I managed to beat wrizz with that comp, swapped Belinda for Rowan tho. Thx guys
Put Rosaline in there, remove shemira so Rosa will help luc????
@copper moon
@torpid pelican
Try
Belinda
---- Estrilda
Lyca
---- Brutus
Tasi
Also you should put Athalia in your crystal
@copper moon thanks !
Help
@copper moon
No room in crystal for now. Waiting for some fodder so I can make a few more mythics which should free some space soon
@torpid pelican why show me a SS of some random team with no synergy?
You can also remove Golus from crystal for Athalia
Oops didnt mean to use raine re ran it with Belinda was pretty much the same result a bit better but not by much
@torpid pelican you could try Thoran instead of Estrilda
17-40 I'm stuck so hard! I just can't work out the opposing Nemora before she cures everything and it goes pear shaped. I'd appreciate any suggestions, I've tried the level a few hundred times. π
Lyca just cant keep up to use her ult
@haughty tide
Try
Tasi
---- Lyca
Arden
---- Brutus
Shemira
Didnβt work, the enemies khasos melts the wilders on his side
@haughty tide
Try
Arden
---- Shemira
Tasi/Nemora
---- Khasos
Lyca
Sorry for 3hr late reply @random verge @broken egret, butvwill try getting shem to 200 this wk, thx
π¦ didnβt work
Newish to the game and wondering which heroes I should focus on. Most of the time right now I'm running
Lucius
Brutus/Thoran
Belinda
Numisu/Rowan
Saveas
Actually I just beat it soo thanks
Floor 3 boss. Any advice appreciated π
@copper moon any suggestions for me when you're not busy?
@steep ibex
Try
Saveas
---- Hogan
Fereal
---- Tasi
Estrilda
@spring sleet
Try
Arden
---- Brutus
Nemora
---- Shemira
Lyca
@real token
Try
Twins
---- Lucius
Saveas
---- Brutus
Silvina
@copper moon Kaz is dodging like all my autos AAAAAAAAAA
@loud canopy
Try
Twins
---- Lucius
Belinda
---- Lyca
Tasi
@copper moon try swapping Saveas and Estrilda
Wow- that actually helped-
@steep ibex
Help
@haughty tide
Try
Shemira
---- Lyca
Arden
---- Khasos
Tasi
Who should I sub out to out shemira in
@wet inlet no one you should work on getting more heroes
Any other ideas?
@haughty tide nope :P
Dang ok
@wet inlet also replace Vurk with Rosaline
Is this team any good? I have no real idea what the hell I'm doing but this seems to work ok so far.
Trying to get more of the lion dude since he seems super strong. Stuck at base purple with him right now.
@pale grove you can swap Shemira for Estrilda then swap the positions of Estrilda and Rosaline
I'll try that. Thanks
@copper moon vurk normally does top dps on my team and I just got a Rowan. Idk if I could do something with him or not
@wet inlet
Rosaline
---- Estrilda
Rowan
---- Hogan
Gwyneth
Focus on getting Gwyneth to level 100 first and you'll notice a big difference
Alright I will give that a go
17-40 solution. Thanks heaps @copper moon you're such a babe
@copper moon that worked like a charm cheers
Tips plz?
@onyx blaze just kill the enemy............... use arden instead of tasi
@sleek portal thx ig
Help
@haughty tide I just typed in 19-38 to search bar
What artifacts should I put on Arden lyca and tasi
@haughty tide put that energy recovery to Tasi
Ok, what else
i usually put random to others
@haughty tide
I'd recommend
Lyca - Grace
Brutus - Drape
Shemira - Blade
Nemora - Eye
Tasi - Call
hi, any idea how to beat 21-4 please ?
@turbid fern i ran:
tasi
lyca
shem
brutus
arden
Thank you @clear saddle , I'll give it a try
@turbid fern Just some information beforehand, it took me a couple hundred tries to beat it
@clear saddle I bet it took you that long.
@pale kettle swap shem and brutus probably
Been stuck for a while now
@clear saddle hey ik I'm low level compared to you guys but could you help me?
@gray stratus Ah yeah sure, gimme a second
Thanks!
@gray stratus Maybe run rosa or arden instead of saveas?
Your belinda will have a tough time killing grezhul first due to faction disadvantage... maybe if you run something like:
Belinda
Golus
Arden
Brutus
Lyca?
that will allow you to root estrilda before she charges
I still canβt pass the battle, the closest Iβve gotten is oh I being last alive and have so little hp, hasnβt happened anymore and havenβt clear the stage. also today is wilder day so I need to pass today
@haughty tide is Nemora getting off the first charm?
She dies to quickly
@pale kettle yes
I feel like I've tried everything. Whichever hero I put in just gets melted in seconds. This isn't even a boss level π€―. Any advice?
@haughty tide change out her shoes to a stronger pair steal Shemiras if you have to
By dying I mean Arden holding her with his vines
@simple helm in order for the nemora to work, you need to have at least 4* M boots so that she can charm before arden roots
@simple helm
Same lineup but much lower level. How does that work? @copper moon
@simple helm the way the setup works is that your nemora charms the arden and he roots his own team. then you can kill them all with shem + tasi ult
@simple helm you need good shoes on Arden and Nemora
@simple helm i swapped my shems boots onto nemora so that she can charm first
Ok I will try that. Thanks!
π¦
@clear saddle nem still isn't going first with 5* M boots
Are you sure she just isn't charming the kaz instead?
I guess I can't tell for sure.
You are running the setup posted above, yes?
@pale kettle shem into golus, arden behind her
Btw, nemora is getting her charm off now
@clear saddle yup
Should work then. If it really isnt working, you could try putting call on her, increases her movement speed. maybe it'll help her charm first
@pale kettle
Yeah I'll just keep trying. It looks like she's casting it just before getting rooted so it might be going to Kaz and getting immuned
Does she just target randomly with charm?
@simple helm she targets the 3 heroes in front of her with her charm, its random
I see. Ok thanks for the info guys!
My butt is constantly getting kicked by 14-12 (honestly it's by pure luck I've gotten to this point), a few pointers would be nice!
current formation, and invis enemy is ogi:
Or some variation of that lol
And the available heroes (I've been shoving all sorts of heroes in the crystal while experimenting):
If I get two more R+ heroes I can take Shemira straight to mythic but I'd like to know if I can pass this level before then
@raven spindle
Try
Athalia
---- Lucius
Rosaline
---- Brutus
Belinda
Thanks! Just tried the formation and it actually almost works. Just need Belinda to ult at the right moment.
Unfortunately it's pretty dependent on RNG; sometimes I can get 4/5, other times just 1/5
Any advice for getting past 20-30?
wait I just passed the stage oh m
thank you so much for the advice!
@robust forum
Alright, Iβll give that a shot. Thanks, @copper moon !!
@pale kettle that stage took a crap ton of resets Rowan has to ult or reset
I might of had call on Rowan not sure
Hello there any ideas for 19-38??
Any ideas?
How can i beat this lineup, last stage floor 3 of labyrinth. Out of dura's tears also
@vast bobcat maybe try
Shem
Hogan
Twins
Brutus
Rosa/Belinda
Thanks bro will try @clear saddle
Can anyone help with set up
@clear saddle thanks bro, lucius/belinda was left but i finished them off with another set. That Lucius doesnt die lol
@abstract mountain
Try
Tasi
---- Brutus
Lyca
---- Shemira
Arden
How to beat these dudes
@copper moon not working : (
@copper moon Oh after 10 times it worked π Thank you
Been stuck here for a week. Any advice?
@real token
Try
Nemora
---- Lucius
Rowan
---- Saveas
Twins
@copper moon no luck. Even worse than before
@real token try Gorvo instead of twins
@copper moon managed to scrape through with that, thanks
21-60βs being mean. Anyone have any ideas?
Still stuck on 16-12. Any tips?
@vernal quail your Shemira is past 221 so search 21-60 afk arena on YouTube
@mossy loom
Try
Rowan
---- Brutus
Athalia
---- Shemira
Tasi
Going to give it a try right now, thank you @copper moon
16-32
hello guys. can i get a lineup help? just bought brutus and pulled a bunch of heroes. can i know my starting 5 lineup?
@iron kelp
Try
Shemira
---- Brutus
Rowan
---- Estrilda
Tasi
something along the lines with Brutus / Saveas / Belinda @cloud briar not sure what u could run for other 2 but maybe something like estrilda and arden
@copper moon not sure what to do here, trying ur lineup rn and my shem isn't ulting fast enough to dps them down
thanks @mossy loom
appreciate it
@mossy loom try Arden instead of Tasi
which of the char should be the highest level? saveas or brutus?
Saveas
thanks. so rest to lv 41 im assuming for the skills?
try to get Saveas to at least E, I would prob use Estrilda as frontline, but Numisu and Khasos are decent early game @restive fog
Hey guys what heros should I focus on / use for my lineup
Is there anyone who can help?
@sullen prairie if you Not using meta.. then I think still need to stop Arden root. Try Nemora top to charm arden
@still crag Savaes and Arden. More info in pinned #classic-questions
For now use Belinda As carry and overlevel her:
Fawkes
Hogan
Belinda
Brutus/maybe skreg?
Numisu
@fierce kayak Trying.
16-20, anyone got a solution for me? βΊοΈ
@void dock I just get rampaged by that Skreg
Your current heroes is really solid anyway
@safe quartz which hero have Dura call ? is it tasi ?
Oh this stage is pure cancer, but I used Merc Lucius in front of Brutus and Shem in front of skreg, also Arden Lyca rowan
Yep, Tasi has call
Change Dura call from tasi to nemora + change Shemira place with Nemora
Have u try
Tasi call
Brutus (i'm using thane in my main lineup)
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
We have same lineup dude except for the brutus
use nemora frontline + let shemira Top back
@granite chasm Nemora just gets dabbed on if I do that
@void dock I've tried most positions for my heroes, the issue is that Skreg starts stomping and everybody goes to the grave
then try this Nemora Chalice + tasi call , but nemora need to be frontline to tank brutus and charm him fast
Have u try using thane? He can bait skreg facing backward
@void dock I'll try it
@granite chasm She refuses to charm Brutus at all if I do it that way
@void dock I have no faction gear for him so he just gets yeeted by Warek lmao
Oh damn... π
Change Lyca To Arden Go full cc team that gonna give shemira time to double + triple ult , you just need to keep trying π you are lucky this pack got nerf i did more then 60 try and i keep Lose Cuz of Skreg Death move
Without the haste they get even more fucked lmao
@safe quartz you can try the line-up I suggested even though I have 200 crystal with Rowan
@pale kettle I'll try it in a moment
Also Arden in bottom back to root Khasos and Vurk
Any idea for 21-38 please?
Stuck at 16-16 any ideas
@safe quartz stuck on the same stage as yours, but m using Lucius instead of Brutus. Do mind to share the formation if u manage to win it? π
Can't get shemira to ult fast enough...
Need some help with stage 16-40 being stuck for a week by now
@gentle cargo Do you have an arden laying around anywhere?
Wilders imo @narrow obsidian
@clear saddle a rare + one
@gentle cargo If you got a space in your crystal, put him in.
then maybe you can try run:
Tasi
Brutus
lyca
shem
arden
Thank you, I'll try :)
do you have duras blade yet? @gentle cargo
@clear saddle not yet, still working on the stage
@narrow obsidian the "meta" comp would be shemira nemora arden lyca and Brutus. The 3 Wilders r all really good but it's possible to use another tank instead of Brutus. He just tends to survive the longest due to his invincibility
Hmm okay, what artifacts are you running at the moment?
@clear saddle
If you want to use the setup i posted. swap call onto tasi and eye onto shem
OK
give it a shot. might be a bit different since i had an L+ arden
I soon have another spot on the crystal, so I will try it
Ok
@tepid current i see, problem is I don't get enough Brutus from diamonds :(
For now, the ascension doesnt matter so much. He'll still do fine. its his immunity thats great
Yeah exactly. Since you will be overleveling your carry ur other 4 will be under leveled and any tank will die fairly quick regardless of ascension. It's the invincibility that makes him good
20-23 any advice?
nvm just realized i was trying without all my gears on earlier lol
Ok 20-24 any advice?
@tepid current ill be honest, that setup does look about right... but maybe you could also try:
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
nemora
im assuming your tasi tanks the silvina
can't put tasi there. she dies cuz silvina hits her and vruk also pierces to her so tasi needs to be on the other side to survive silvina jump and potentially ult
think you might just need more rng then. Let me search and see if i've got a screenshot
oh. i beat it
So i was right the first time π congrats
yep i was using the right comp all along
If you get close with one comp, then you can probably beat it with that comp. just need rng to play out in your favour
strangely enough i wasn't getting close at all then one time just beat it lol
Well, maybe you just needed the perfect rng π
Which two should I use out of the four. Hogan, Hendrik, Brutus, Mehira.
@tawdry frost What for? and what do you currently use?
guessing hes early game cuz hogan was an option. brutus is almost always the right answer there tho
For ealy game, trying to make a better team.
You can run Brutus Hogan Belinda Rosa and Mehira
try ur best to get a saveas. you can almost make a purple sav already.after you get sav i recommend hogan burtus saveas nemora/belinda/mehira
Why is tasi fucking banishing the dreaf....
@tepid current need arden for this stage
who does he need to root
Kaz Tasi and Ulmus preferably
So in place of nemora
Then you can run your shem into kaz if your arden roots properly
even if kaz is rooted shem dies too quickly
Run her into ulmus then. no choice really lol
@tepid current I got Saveas elite
So should I use your lineup now for early game, I also got Bladen if he makes a difference in anything.
@tawdry frost baden isn't so good for campaign, but useful in guild hunt
yeah saveas/brutus will always be there but the other 3 can flex a bit. hogan if saveas can't frontline or nemora mehira belinda for backline. u shud also build an arden asap
why tf am i stuck on a level with 2 dreafs. its basically 5v3
I need help with 10-40
ok apparently the correct answer to beating 20-27 without 220 shem is using 4 wilders and just praying for rng
New to the game who should I run in my formation based off of what I have?
Anyone who can solve my puzzle? βΊοΈ 16-20 please tag me if you have a suggestion
@vagrant goblet
@clear saddle my Tasi gets 1 shot π
@vagrant goblet I can give you a team similar to the one I used
Make nemora have the lowest defense, sheβs there solely for silvina bait
@vagrant goblet try rowan Lucius shemira fawkes and brutus try mixing in Rosa if that does work also make sure rowan is in the middle
@hidden stone thats my basic combo, it hasnt worked π₯Ί
Thatβs what I used execpt I donβt have brutus I have hendrik and my Rosa is at elite
@clear saddle i cant get shem that low in def
@vagrant goblet im asking for you to lower nemora's defense, not shems
Oh... right @clear saddle π
I need help stuck on 8-12, for almost a week. What is the best team comp n any changes I need to do? Please advise thank you
@silver falcon Hey there ^^
You seem to have a lot of fodder on standby, could you please share your complete roster?
Preferably in DMs, so I will be able to help you further with Ascension choices that might help you clutch your stage π
That stage is cancer
@lament birch Hey! How've you been today? :p
I'd change around the strongest gear you currently possess to the 5 heroes you've placed in this formation, so you'd be able to grow more on might.
Artifacts wise :
Grace on Shemira
Drape on Grezhul
Blade on Ferael
Eye on Baden
@wise merlin , yeah i working on getting hogan n saveas to L+ and arden to L but still lack fodders to make 1 more epic+ each for both hogan n sav, will dm u in moment thanks maybe i missed out something
@wise merlin nice day so far, thanks :) hope urs good too
I didn't change any gear or relic so far, didn't need too ^^ but I'll try it out
Best of luck to you!
@lament birch
15-40 help please π
ATM using first 5 heroes in team. Any advices for good team-building and hero leveling with my hero's pull?
(after team re-build\save - reset excess leveled hero's)
@hardy oriole need to use nemora middle back to charm the enemy ferael
@hardy oriole Do you have an arden?
Yea an elite one
Is he in your crystal?
Yea
Ok, then you can run something like:
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shem
Arden
Die too fast haha Brutus gets melted
You need your arden to root the ferael, and your nemora to charm him when he's rooted
if this doesnt happen, reset
She's continuously charming the grezhul xD
Any advice for 6-36 would great
@naive vortex Dont have your shem frontline against the enemy saveas, she's going to die quite quickly. Put brutus in shemira's place and put her behind brutus
Then what do I do about the other side frontline
put saveas there
Any tips?
@devout idol I would stick to meta. Likely
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Arden/nemora
Don't even level. Shem 200, crystal 160. Then tank to 180.
@fierce kayak I just finished it with that team
@devout idol the team you posted?
Yes, 2 carries OP
@devout idol meta and overlevel Shem is still better. But up to you as long as works for you. One carry is enough. 2 doesn't work well becos you need overlevel. Just my opinion.
@fierce kayak I barely used Shemira up until I reached this chapter, I only need 1 more Belinda to ascend her, she's been my carry since I started playing, but the wishlist isn't help me. Got 3 Hogan in a row
I need to replace Silvia she keeps dying and the rest of my team keeps living
Help , I am sure I can clear chapter after this, this is 3 to last battle of the chapter
I need help please
@hollow dawn Hey! may you please share your complete hero roster? ^^ Thank you! 
@honest storm Try this out!
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
Change your gear up and artifacts for better results, for more advices please dm! π
@haughty tide Hey there ^^ Give this a shot!
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
Khasos
Nemora (charm Ogi or Ira)
Make sure you have Eye on Khasos the faster he attacks, the more lifesteal he will get and the more he will tank! π
@orchid egret Try this out :P
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
If vurk is banished by Tasi, then swap Tasi for Arden, and have both Isabella and Vurk rooted multiple times as Nemora is being chased down by Silvina
It didnβt work because of the Arden
@haughty tide Okay... then another try!
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Khasos
Tasi
If enemy Arden gets rooted / interrupted, the game should already be in your favor!
Make sure that you have the best available boots on Arden, so he will use his spells faster!
Thx ill try that @wise merlin
@wise merlin thanks for the help, but the problem in the battle isnβt Arden, I have tried other lineups to root him, thanks for your idea either way, I will figure something out
Best of luck through! π
Can I get some tips ?
@steel gazelle Yes!
Belinda
Estrilda
Rosaline
Brutus
Nemora
advice for this stage?
Also estrilda sucks and so does Brutus they are way too squishy
I am stuck as all heck. Any tips please?
Been stuck here for ages not sure what to do
@nova fiber what stage is that
11_40
Try this:
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas
Lyca
Arden
@eternal pecan car like this?
@nova fiber nah...Lyca where Khasos is...Saveas where Lyca is....Khasos where Saveas is. Give it like 20 tries or so
errr actually wow I butchered that Brutus should be front top and Lyca front bottom
@meager plinth Probably ascending Saevas as priority is a good idea
x'D
For mid game arround lvl 100 its very good option. Obviously he cant go Mithic but, meanwhile is a good option
@eternal pecan they get slaughtered
@nova fiber can I see the formation?
@nova fiber you didn't position like I said...
This person has much lower levels than you. Position like them and you can win
Posted wrong pic but still dosent work
hmmm maybe you need 141 arden for the 3 roots
I would still think that Saveas could carry you with enough retries
Ill keep it going and see
but like the person in that video has 144 saveas, 141 arden, and rest at 120...so you're far superior
https://imgur.com/gallery/5bIgFEY stuck on 14-39
@hot hornet Try:
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
But you may need arden 141
If you don't have the dust...you might consider resetting Belinda to 160 and get Lucius to 141
Oh or I guess you'd need to go Estrilda 141
Hello, should I upgrade Brutus or is it too early? I don't know if he's already great at that level or not yet
@night lintel By all means, never use a hero with 4 abilities (AKA Ascended tier) as fodder ^^; deathly mistake.
So glad you asked! this mistake is very common (sadly) and people highly regret it later on!
you're talking about Twitch from LoL wannabe ? It makes sense, thanks
(forgot his name uh)
@hot hornet Well you should reset Lucius and level Estrilda instead since she can go to 141...unless you will get L+ arden soon
You don't need to ascend brutus yet as you don't have the fodder to make him L+ right afterwards yet. Brutus as a tank mostly scales of levels so getting him to level 141 is more important than his ascensions as his immunity duration increases a lot then. Since he caps at 140 at L you should try get him in crystal to 141 for now
Stuck on 21-44, any suggestions?
@eternal pecan Where should i use estrilda in my team then?
@hot hornet You don't....it's simply to increase levels
ah my bad
I would try the lineup I suggested before you reset anything
If it's still not working then you can reset Lucius...put xp into estrilda and try to get her 141 and then try same lineup with 141 arden
141 arden is a big deal cuz he gets an extra root. The 3 roots are really powerful...carrying me through many levels and I don't have as high level heroes as you
I only have 180 M shemira...everything else 141
@cerulean hamlet thanks for the feedback
@eternal pecan Ah ty
Any idea for 21-38 please?
@ashen schooner Thank you I'll give it a go
@ashen schooner I'm getting nuked constantly
Help
Problems is silvina too quickly wrecks Healer before ult so no healing that's why rowan. Also niru is Targeted by saevas but heals tooooo much health. I replaved Gwen but still failed. I have even tried replacing Belinda with Gwen and using nemora / rowan. PLEASE HELP
Stuck on 19-38 lads. So close to chap 20!!
@noble turtle maybe replace khasos with estrilda
Any help is appreciated for chapter 17!
@minor hull try
frontline Shemira + Brutus
Backline Arden Lyca Tasi
Just pray that your Arden roots enemy arden + Tasi and shem ult
Can anyone help me on this I donβt know what would be the best team for this level
Been here a few days
Any ideas?
@peak geyser yeah, got purppe saveas. Nowt think - need switch someone in team to saveas or nope xd (and waiting new slot in crystal)
Like seriously... How in the world am I supposed to beat this stage...
And I was hoping to get passed 10-22 for better gear from stores
This is 10-20
I'm stuck here. :(
Struggling
@honest storm which stage is that?
13-39 @GreenArrowChris#9147
@honest storm Try:
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
6 days in wondering who I should be focusing to get me through chapter 6. also what faction to use my 10 faction scrolls on
@honest storm Or maybe:
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Might take 30-40 retries of one of those formations
@tough matrix prioritize Saveas. He's the best there is for early game progression. You'll want him to be your first L+ hero
So Maulers is good for your first bunch of faction scrolls. Added bonus if you get Brutus pulls
ok i put brutus in the celestial thing too hoping i get him tonight
Need help with 21-4. Kaz either deletes shem, or tasi vanishes shem and the rest of the squad is deleted
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi @brittle maple
Help for 17-28? Been stuck for a while
@ashen schooner same problem. Either rooted by ulmus and banished by tasi lol
Hmm. Maybe swap Shemira and Nemora in that lineup then and try. Maybe swap around artifacts too.
@plush gate put nemora across from fereal and reset until she charms him
@ashen schooner call on shem?
Done @eternal pecan
Thanks
Thoughts???
Isn't Rosaline a bit useless on Saveas?
15-40 help?
@signal escarp yeah but I use her to get the faction bonus since I want Hogan in
tried using that, did not work for me.
i had to get one of those back line heroes mythic to advance.
and atleast all 160
@haughty vigil swap Arden with nemora and tasi with Arden. Nemora should charm ferael
I just turned Hogan from E+ to L+ for last stage, but I havent put any levels in him yet, I dont like the fact that to use him I have to drop Brutus or loose the wilder backline
i had thane with shemira in front because they were both mythic and had backline with wilders all L+
any ideas?
@still oar thanks worked like a charm. Swapped Shem with Brutus and sealed the deal. OP that Fereal fears his own team.
@glacial heron try to put khasos and Arden instead of Rowan and Rosaline, you'll get 3 faction bonus and the roots of Arden, try to get the enemy saveas rooted
Screenshot (3.10.2019 22.26.26)
I'm conpletely stuck and can't find a way to progress fast can anyone help?
Try get arden to 141 so he can root 3 enemies maybe but possibly something like brutus + saveas frontline with arden tasi numisu backline could work?
The problem I have with arden is that I can't get him to L and I'm leveling my top 5 heroes evenly so that every other hero levels evenly
You ideally actually want to overlevel your shemira/Saveas (whichever you choose are your primary carry) so she is 20-40 levels above the rest of your heroes as since you have her she'll be a great carry for you. Also try pick up a nemora from lab store too.
Yeah I think nemora would be a good buy I bought a shem as first buy from lab store though and I'm like 10k lab coins short of a buy and I used to have Saveas as my carry but he seemed to not hard carry anymore and Belinda started working way better than him
That's where the overlevel part comes in - they don't work as well as carries if they're evenly leveled so you want your primary one much more leveled than the rest. It will work well with saveas up until ch15ish and shem up to around 22/23
The second problem I have with saveas is that he is only L and I could ascend my Belinda to M right now if I wanted to
Should I save up my purple dust for Shemira to 181 or get the rest of my team to 141
What do help 10-8
@ember kindle I suppose you could do the same with belinda overleveled instead but the main point is - your primary carry should be overleveled over the rest of your lineup
@faint bay Move saveas to frontline take one of your tanks away and get cc in your backline if tou have any
@jovial jolt you can't actually level shemira to 181 until your crystal is 160 so getting the rest to 141 first is mandatory
Fish what do you think of me feeding my L+ hogan to Belinda and getting her to M or should I get her to level 160 first?
Should I reset Eironn, Ira, Fawkes and Mirael and then overlevel my Saveas as the main carry?
I think feeding hogan to belinda is a decent choice, but then you would want to focus everything on belinda if you want her to be your carry
If I feed hogan to belinda do I take brutus as my main tank or?
Yes, brutus as your tank is a very good choice, he doesn't need ascensions as you're generally only relying on his immunity
Yep I'll go ahead
@ember kindle ty for the tip it got down to a saveas 1v1 which is always stressful to watch ahah
Won now actually ty, u reckon saveas can tank better than my lvl 100 heroes for.now?
Saveas overleveled tanks a lot and will work way better than your lvl 100 heroes and he should always be played as frontline
I would do that but i dont even have arden to cc, only tasi right now
@signal escarp Alright Ill give that a shot, my Khasos is weak as ... though π
Thanks
Did it work?
didnt try yet, out fo battery π
Stuck on 7-36, any suggestions?
Hello hello, I'm actually stuck at 6 - 4 and I don't know what to focus on, I feel like I've been quite unlucky with the drops
@noble turtle Try putting Brutus and Saveas on the bot side, and take khasos out and put nemora in, but put her in mid-back
Anyone to give me some tips? I really don't know where to go with what I have
Thanks @glacial heron
Gonna need some help here. 19-38.
@glacial heron it feels like Lucius is dying too quickly, would you recommend leveling him a bit more or keep leveling saveas?
@willow hemlock Im not an expert but I would use the R+ Mirael and morvus to get your R+ Hogan to E and then combine him with the other E Hogan for E+ and then replace Seirus with Hogan and do maybe Hogan Estrilda Front, Sav Tasi and Raine/Fawkes back but theres a few ways to go with what you have, try asking in questions as well, here its more of posting a pick of the stage you are stuck at and you get formation help for the particular stage
Alright ty vm, I didnt consider Hogan, I will look at him and will also post in questions, ty again!
Help me pls to make a goid lineup ill reset all of my 100 lvl
And just tell me how to upgrade
Im on chapter 8
@willow hemlock np, hes pretty good at the start and later since hes not an ascended you can always feed him so he is a safe investment, I tried Seirus at one point with 3 wilders Hogan is much better
Since he's a starter I just thought he was bad, and Seirus helped me a lot in the first stages with his AoE control/dps, but it's true that now he dies too fast to pull out a single ult
@noble turtle Up to you, both are good at this point and you can only get Sav to 120 and youll cap out till you ascend him, you can take a look at this to see how far your exp will go on each https://www.afkarena.net/level-calculator I would prob put some levels into Lucios first if he cant get his ult off
This is a hero Level Calculator/Planner for AFK Arena. Find out exactly how many resources you need to level your heroes!
Can someone tell me what to do??
@noble turtle you can also try putting in Mehira for twins and putting khasos back in BTW
@tough steeple ideally you're after a saveas as he's the best solo carrying hero upto around chapter 14/15 but you youly have a rare copy of him
@tough steeple belinda can be a great carry though so I would advise on leveling her more for now
hmm, I've heard Skreg is decent in early game but I have not been able to verify that properly yet
Looking on help on to get passed this stage. I'm going insane over it. Haha. I also have an Arden Legendary +
@ashen schooner
Well that second photo didn't work out.
you don't want shemira in front of that fight
ira will poke her to death real quick so she would need to hang back - might be a case of needing to throw as much dodge onto lyca and have her play an offtank role
Put
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Estrilda
Arden @wise merlin
Root on Ira would be optimal
Sometimes Morvus crit can mess you up too
Morvus banished
you might need to rng a few dodges then
Will try :D
If that doesn't work show me them artifacts
@ashen schooner Tasi gets destroyed pretty much right off the bat because Lyca uses haste, Kaz goes for Tasi - Tasi dead.
She have the best gear on?
π€¦
Needs to be able to withstand initial hit and tp away
Has best gear on, still dies x.x

hmm would moving her help?
Kaz uses her triple attack.. and yeah
That was personally my lineup, but uh
like swap her with arden maybe
Could maybe swap Arden
Will try π
But he'd prob... die faster...
I wish I could give better advise but I kind of cleaned house on chapter 21 so I didn't get stuck once there :c
I only got stuck on like one stage
π³
Not even a second in, he didn't get critted on, dead
Any advice? Battle lasts like 3 secs π π€¦ββοΈ
try charming arden with nemora
put shemira back
x.x might need more AFK time, thanks folks @idle aspen @ashen schooner β€
ira rips through her real quick so having her in front is dangerous
Will try
@glacial heron omg mehira worked so well! Currently 4 levels up and still going
@glacial heron thank you!
Help
@fathom nexus also arden may be an option here where nemora is in order to give shem more time
@noble turtle Way to go man! Glad to help !
get that saveas to 120 @shy crag
700k hp shem melts like butter. Send help
@idle aspen yes, this hell Hoke
alright, shem will need to be in the back and you will need lyca to be a dodge tank
since kaz is quite the shemira killer with her triple attack
how to set this up?
@idle aspen I canβt deal with being banished the entire fight
Could use some help here. Struggling to beat this.
@brittle maple it might be a case of getting lucky enough for her to do a bad teleport and get caught before she banishes again
I did have trouble on this stage too so you're not alone
@brittle maple
@idle aspen Do I want lyca to dodge tank ulmus or kaz+vurg
@brittle maple try
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Give blade to shem, drape to brutus and call to tasi. If brutus doesn't ult before he dies then give him eye
ah you used arden to stop kaz and athalia to get tasi to interrupt her first banish
@idle aspen it was the easiest way
it's just a matter of not getting banished 1 to many times
Nara would also work
I didn't suggest other heroes in case he did not have them
I always use nara and athalia to stall enemy cc
@haughty comet
Try
Estrilda
---- Hendrik
Twins
---- Hogan
Saveas
Everyone got destroyed before they could ult. Might be a better of levels.
@copper moon what was the order for that 21-4 lineup
@brittle maple battle record always shows slots 1-5 in order
So
- Arden
---- 1. Shemira - Tasi
---- 2. Lucius - Athalia
Omfg the kaz wonβt die lol
Hey guys. I'm new to the game. Any tips for starters?
You can check the resources pinned in #classic-questions and the topic there for starters
thanks
Again.
Itβs insane how kaz can literally burst shem in 2 seconds
I'll just wait few more hours. Hopefully get some ascensions. But I would like to have 19 finished by tonight for GB faction scrolls
@brittle maple Arden has to root Kaz or reset
nice
So yea...
@ancient oasis
Haaallllpppp
@pale kettle put Nemora where Mehira is. Have Nemora charm Ferael
I passed same stage today with that and lower levels
Help 12-32
any tips for a newb lineup that im using.. im completly stuck
Wait just beat it lol nvm
Idt there's much you can do. Your team seems lacking in def and control ark
Help
@pale kettle
Try
Tasi
---- Lucius
Lyca
---- Shemira
Nemora
@pale kettle try to overlevel your dps, dont even level them. Also for early level hogan is a better tank tgan skreg imo (for his knockback skill)
Tasi
Brutus
Mirael/ira
Hogan
Silvina
i prefer who i have levelled tbh dont want to reset and I use ira/hogan to fodder
Is there a guide for this VoW yet?
How? Canβt beat without my whole team almost dead
Need help on 21-52
Can I get some advice on which heroes I should focus for my main team first? I'll be stuck on this level for a while and wanted to make sure I don't waste my resources
Whenever I use my other lvl 81 heroes I feel like it's not worth losing the team bonus I have active currently.
I can ascend my Vaden to elite as well to team up with Shemira.
What kind of setup should i use to progress in PvE? I'm currently at 10-21. Thanks β€
Belinda should be Legendary tomorrow too with my Faction Scrolls so all my Heros can be level 121.
Help
I canβt either, itβs really hard but that battle is to get the 5 normal scroll
Legit how
Is this the best possible pvp team I can make RN?
@robust mortar post your stage enemy Together with roster next time here. Easier for others to help you. Becos we dunno who you facing too. Other than the pinned I advise you to read.. pined did mentioned you should use Savaes right if you read it? You can make Saves purple now. Anyway for now use Shemira/Sav as carry and level her to 80/100 first than level Brutus. Your line-up in general can be:
Sav
Brutus
Eorinn
Shemira
Safiya
@fierce kayak first ya name hard af to @ . I have that lineup expect Ferael instead of Eironn for that faction bonus. Also am I supposed to get 2 more Sav+ to ascend or does it not matter for rares?
This is probably pointless but does anyone have a line up that can beat this?
@robust mortar carry is fine especially if they are rare heroes like Sav or shop heroes like shem. Just Ascned when you can do it. Becos they need the levels.
@haughty tide Nemora middle back to charm ferael
My tankiest heroes die in less than 2 seconds. I feel like the skreg fight is horrendously unbalanced.
She charms grez not fereal
@fierce kayak when should I start enhancing items? some ppl were saying hold on until you get mythics?
Lol ok I just noticed so many of the recent posts are about the skreg fight. Seems like everyone is at a loss
Help meh
Skreg fight is nonsense. I donβt think itβs meant to be beaten unless you roll some really fantastic relics
for a newbie who is in 6-12, who fits this team comp - E Saveas, L Belinda, E+ Brutus, E Arden
Other notable ones are E Lyca, E Grezhul, E+ Safiya, E+ Hendrick, E+ Baden
@quaint current its doable - get 2 tanks in the front or a thoran who can facetank with sig, put shem in back, rowan and rosa to buff her and then chain ult animations to geht max dmg uptime... Also maybe retry until you get some heavy dmg relics like +40% crit dmg or the bonus attributes on hero death
Like if your lyca can survive in front to channel her ult after shem ult that would be ideal but idk if thats possible due to skreg cc
Thanks will try @meager sedge
It worked for me - you will still lose 3 or so heroes. Make sure you have something for the next camp aswell (some ults that are rdy)
@median willow let me see all your heros
Okay, so you only need to level 5 heros. You have 6 leveled. Reset your lucias and level Shem with the extra resources
Put Arden and lyca in the crystal as well
Then run:
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Tasi/nemora
You need your Arden to bind before the enemy team binds
Arden is good? wow
Arden is busted lol
What should be front line and backline?
I posted that already
oh
hey jerod, could you help me with this
- for a newbie who is in 6-12, who fits this team comp - E Saveas, L Belinda, E+ Brutus, E Arden
Other notable ones are E Lyca, E Grezhul, E+ Safiya, E+ Hendrick, E+ Baden
I need to see your line up, and heros
give me a sec
Thank you for the help
@median willowmake sure you reset that lucias though. You have no need to level more than 5 heros. You wasted alot of resources doing that
@cloud briar you also have more that 5 heros leveled. Super bad. Reset the other heros.
But I'd probably reset the sav as well and put save back at lvl 61, then over level the Belinda
I don't really remember much about early game. If @clear saddle is here right now me might be able to help more than me
Yup, no worries.
was thinking of putting hendrick E+ instead of Grezhul E for tank
@cloud briar Brutus is your tank
@cloud briar so I have some notes I'd like to make.
A) pick 5 heroes and level them. The rest go in the crystal reset them and put those resources into your current heroes.
B) I sort of understand why sav is your highest level character but that's ridiculous it should be Belinda especially since she will incinerate your current opponents
C) Hendricks is better than estrillda in terms of tanking and teir issue is you get more estrillda from pulls so do with that info as you will
@near goblet both front lines are "tanks" since they take majority of damage. Some double up as tanks and dealers really depends on what's up. My point being brutus and hendrik make hell of a solid line
i see i see. ok i get it now. thank you so much both! appreciate it
@torpid pelican yeah I feel you. I can't remember how I played early because now I'm so used to Shem and Brutus being in the front row lol
@near goblet if you open the hero info page and look towards the bottom right itll tell you what "roles" the heroes tend to play and shem qualifies as a tank. Now a mages enemy is assassins which is why kaz rips shem a new one. Mages and debuffers screw tanks and tanks screw dps and tanks because tanks can take their shit for longer than the opponents can take theirs such as brutus.
(Just some role explanation)
This is my alt account. I'm not currently stuck, but should I switch Shem and Belinda's levels?
@near goblet lol hell no. Shem is the better pf the two plus she has a higher tier
Who should I be using currently?
@near goblet for that chapter yes so you get faction damage bonus against Maulers
Any suggestions?
@misty raven
Twins
Shem
Numisu
Brutus
Thane
@misty raven ignore my earlier suggestion.
What the actual hell is in your crystal???
There should only be 5 heroes outside the rest should be in the crystal. Go reset the rest of your heroes except for the five with the most ascension potential then invest the recovered resources into your top 5 and you'll easily sweep the current level
I didnβt really know what I was doing when I started, which was about a week and a half ago and only joined the disc a couple days ago. I realize now that I havenβt been investing correctly in my heroes. How do I know who has the most potential? @torpid pelican
@misty raven alright so go to the ranhorn tab go to the rickety cart and get those extras reset as for who to level lemme see your complete list of heroes and for kicks what the hell is in your crystal
I just emptied the crystal per your request but Iβll get the complete list quick
Ermm.. how the hell am i supposed to beat the new voyage?
Fire and ice
@pale kettle wait for a guide? Lolol Jk but rosa and Belinda and raine should be able to k0 those skreggs
@misty raven no youd waste a hundred diamonds. Because of level cap shem has to be reset but she should be level and ascended aggressively purchase her from the lab store. You need 3 more copies. One more to make her E+ Nd 2 more to get her from legendary to l+ keep that in mind. However for now thoran and Hogan for sure even though Hogan will be used eventually. Belinda brutus and ira. IRA will be used to make someone into a mythic or mythic+ at some point just like Hogan so you should be making people to replace them sooner and later you should also focus on getting brutus and Belinda to l+
How come shem has to be reset because of lvl cap? The canβt ascend if they hit a cap too early?
@misty raven the elite level cap is hundred. Ur heroes are going above 100 therefore out of the crystal she Is capped. You need higher tier heroes to level so the heroes in the crystal can go higher as well
So from what I have, I want to focus on lvling thoran, hogan, belinda, brutus, and ira?
@torpid pelican
@misty raven correct. For now at least
Does anyone beside Shem need to be reset? @torpid pelican
@misty raven literally anyone whose not those 5 above mentioned heroes needs to be reset. Literally you take the resources invested into those other heroes and pour them into the 5 then you have a decent crew.
Will do. I appreciate the help! @torpid pelican
@misty raven anytime
@old ore How do I defeat these stage try many times but didn't work
Dont ping me, just ask here
So why you are acting smart
Help please, just tryna pass chapter 20
@ember bane try using arden shemira tasi nemora lyca
On my 20th retry with rng I can get it down to 1
23-2, for posterity. This one had me stumped for a while.
Help
@urban egret
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Any ascension of arden should do fine
Donβt have Arden :/
@ember bane do you have fire and icebringer? I did it with a similar lineup
@urban egret even an R rarity one dude.
Not even a rare man
well, you're going to have a rough time dealing with tasi banishing your shemira without an arden. Try and get one
@urban egret you could also try nemora in place of arden to charm the tasi so she doesnt banish your shem.
Wait nvm I just got an Arden will try !
Also, artifact setup should look like:
Blade - Shem
Drape - Brutus
Eye - Arden
Grace - Lyca
Call - Tasi
I need help please
@quasi crag in future, don't evenly distribute your levels. Focus on one hero who will be dealing most of the damage and use all your levels on them. for your setup you can use:
Lyca
Estrilda
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
@clear saddle lyca and rowan both epic are they still viable like that? And should i use my angelo to make belinda mythical
@quasi crag yes, Lyca and Rowan are still good at elite. Also, angelo isn't that great so you can feed him to belinda. There are also some ascension tips in the pinned messages in the #classic-questions channel, take a look later if you'd like π
@clear saddle ahh gotcha and will do thank you much
Np
What am I doing wrong here?... maulers have no CC to counter Fawkes
Stuck on 6-28
22-8 Looking good team setup with Rowan +Shemira
Can anyone recommend me a lineup?
hi, new player here, been playing for 1-2 days, am currently on chapter 3, and hitting a wall. i've been reading around focusing on 1-2 heroes as carries might be better than leveling all evenly? i'm not sure, can someone give me any advice?
also just wondering what good lineup can i form with the heroes i have rn? and what heroes should i be looking for/build towards to complement the team? thanks
@analog raven too early to make an line-up buddy. Till you pull more first shortly. Read pinned at #classic-questions for tips. For now
- R+ and E+ your heroes
- use your purples and any hero for now
what's R+ and E+ ya?
Does someone have the solution of 20-37 for me?
@broken egret do you have a picture?
Shem is 216 now tho
Looks right, or you could move arden to the middle back so that he has a higher chance to root the golus.
What artifacts do you run btw?
could give it some tries, however from what i can tell so far is that i 100% need to root tasi to stop banish and also kind need nem so she doesnt charm. Other than that i think i need to kill ulmus before he ults or he just reks them all, which i have not managed to do so far BTW. but ill give that some tries
@broken egret if you're worried about charm, you can put your tasi against the enemy nem, and she will probably tank the charm and deal the least amount of harm to your team
true, but the problem with tasi being charmed is that her ulti is kinda too late i think because i want her to ulti before ulmus ults, but you might be right, ill try that a bit later
@abstract mountain does your tasi die instantly?
Yes :/
@abstract mountain for that stage, i used either nemora as bait for silvina and ran:
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
nemora
@willow estuary your belinda is your main damage yes? id recommend you put her bottom back in place of fawkes, use tasi instead of nemora and rosaline instead of fawkes if you have her.
so something like:
Tasi
Shem
Rosa
Lucius
belinda maybe
Items from Arden should I put for Tasi or Nemora?
@abstract mountain you need tasi to not get jumped by silvina, so put your 2nd best mage gear (since best will be on shem)
Also, what artifacts do you run?
Ty, will try
@willow estuary better start with lucius at full energy
@clear saddle So Shemira Duras Call, Brutus Duras Drape, Nemora Duras Eye
@abstract mountain so if you don't have duras blade yet, i would recommend you run:
Eye on shem, call on tasi, drape on brutus and grace on lyca.
16-36
I will try to pass it but still it's hard π
@iron kelp is it possible to make tasi have the lowest defense?
@abstract mountain good luck
Tasi can't cast her ulti :/
I could try moving gears around
@abstract mountain try it a couple more times. might just need luck.
@iron kelp if you can make arden have a higher defense than tasi, then this stage will be a lot easier for you. you can run:
Tasi
Brutus
lyca
Shem
Arden
Ok lemme try it. I need 1 more silvina to finally ascend my shem
i tried moving gears around. tasi still has higher def rating. due to her being L and arden E+
@iron kelp how about the unions?
ok i tweaked the union. shes below arden now
Any advice for Wilders 60?
try
lyca
---shemira
nemora
---brutus
tasi
do you have an arden? also if khasos surives longer than brutus use him instead of brutus in that setup @strange meteor
@tepid current Ty 1st team work
ur welcome
hey, guys, could anyone give me advises about who should I go M+ first? Rowan, Roslaine or Lucius? now I'm stuck at Ch. 16, with Shem 180 and all others 161, really appreciate if anyone could give some helpful advises, thanks.
Amy ideas for 20-60?
@tepid current go borrow a higher Ascneded Warek from friend
@pure kiln ^ lineup from Tuesday or for me.. same but nemora replace Arden to charm enemy Arden.
Any idea about which team to line up to beat the Skreg+Satrana team at the end of the new VoW event ? My main team that wiped prety much everything with ease is getting DESTROYED in 3s. (main team: Shemira Rosaline Rowan Lucius Fawkes)
Something that can help for that is rerolling the map until you see firebringer + icebringer in the relic chests which will help a lot. I'm not sure if you can normally beat that team without good relics.
Skreg and Nemora are obtainable in the store, so that's a no for me. 5 Golds Scrolls are a no to me too because I'd prefer to have an elite rather than taking the chance to get 5 green heroes. So depending on what you need... I'd say Rowan or Baden. I personally needed Rowan to ascend him
@pallid rose you should run Shemira - Brutsu - Tasi - Lyca - Nemora as your main team as you have all the heroes needed for it. But as said in #classic-questions you should pick Rowan from the chest and buy nemora from the labyrinth store
Until you get shemira to ~141 or so though you can probably run something like
Saveas - Brutus - Lyca - Tasi - Nemora with overeleveled saveas
Definitely yes, he's the best early game carry so he should be your highest leveled hero until Shemira takes over
Yeah I think that's your 2 best options, using the same meta comp most ppl use which is Nemora Tasi Lyca Brutus Shemira, or over-level Saveas a fit him in a good comp because he can solo carry for a while. but with what you have, I'd say you have a 3rd option, which is runing 4 Graveborn + Lucius
Or you can go even further and run 5 Graveborn to get that sexy 25% dmg buff, helps a lot
Rowan from the chest is the best option, just buy nemora from labyrinth store.
Saveas works well frontline yes because he has a very high amount of HP esp if properly leveled.
Your frontline will generally be Saveas + Brutus
He's not supposed to be, but if over-leveled and in a team with the famous Wilder backline, yes he can be in the frontline because of the huge sustian he has
I was happy when i got lucius from chest but he is not fit for my team rn 
Ok i hope tomorrow i will get enough coin to buy nemora from lab bcs first time i choosed shemira
If you want to try something now to progress, go for the 4 Graveborn you have with Lucius. Plus, I don't think that's a good idea to have such level difference between your hero. Everybody should be at the same level, with the exception of just one over leveled if needed, your main carry
Anyone specifically I should pick up with the hero selection box?
Rowan would probably be your best bet.
I can get a 4th copy of Nemora from the Lab store and get her to Legendary, but I'd be losing both my Ardens, which I really don't wanna do
Okie okie, he was who I was thinking of getting
My current lineup atm right now is Lucius, Hogan, Nemora, Gwyn, Saveas if that matters btw
@toxic solstice so for now savias gonna be my carry and after shemira right
Yeah, the 4 LB buff may help you. Nemora is easy to get so I wouldnβt go after the one in the chest. Also wouldnβt recommend ascending to Legendary without enough for Legendary+. If you need a more in-depth explanation, check my pinned message in #classic-questions
@ionic scaffold
Gotcha gotcha! I'll try out Rowen! He's usually wanting to be placed in the middle right?
Help
Okay, gotta figure out where to stick Gwyn then. She's so good for hitting the whole back line
She usually ends up doing just as much if not more than Saveas. 
@brittle forum Waw if I had these heros I would make a new account lol. I guess that you could try the meta comp which is in your case Nemora Lyca Arden in the back with Brutus and Shemira in the front. But with what you currently have... I guess you're forced to build around Silvina which is infinite sadness. I dont know how strong is Orthros... I guess you can try Silvina Nemora Arden Eirron Brutus. I don't feel like it's solid enough, but it takes advantage of your Silvina, Arden and Nemora will help, Eirron is there just for the faction buff, and Brutus in the front since he's your best tank atm, use Silvina and Eirron as 2nd frontliner I guess, one behind the other. Anyway I wouldn't use Silvina+Belinda, you don't need 2 hard DPS, in my opinion/experience, most of the time it's preferable to have only 1 hard DPS and build around it. Using both will end up producing the opposite effect, they will not have the time/support required to pull out their damage. You can't go back in time and you don't have a lot of choices so you're "forced" to build around tht Silvina anyway...
@brittle forum Have reliable frontlines, a healer, then raine + silvinas.
Peeps here use meta team so u wont receive much help if u deviate from the meta.
I used Silvinas raine for a while. Worked till i finished chap 15. The idea is to mark enemies with raine, make silvinas one hit an enemy with ult, then she regains energy thru raine mark, then make her ult again till no enemies left
Any suggestions? Ive tried with shem on bottom, all sorts of combos for the backline, even tried lyca and gorvo instead of brutus but nothing =/
@brittle forum
Try this
Silvina
Thane
Belinda
Brutus
Lyca/raine
U should overlevel your carry to the max (20-40 lvl above the others)
Ok
@brittle forum you will still received help even if you deviate from meta bro.. don't worry. Just that maybe less people knows how to help. Sometimes we didn't come in to advise becos might be lacking of ideas to help you anyway, thats why didnt comment. G luck buddy.
@fierce kayakthx
@brittle forum And even if a lot of people will just advise you to play the meta comp, know that you can go far without using it too. I personaly don't like that comp and don't use it, I'm 16-36 right now which isn't that far, but I know people around 22/23 who never used that comp too. Keep praying the RNG god
I'm not as far as you are but if that was my account, the first comp I would try would be Shemira Brutus Rowan Lucius Fawkes. Tweaking with the position of Brutus/Shem/Lucius front or back.
Any thoughts for 22-50? Been stuck here a good while now lol
Any recommendations for my 5th?
@ashen schooner I'll try her out :) hope I now do more than 27mii dmg xD
Sheβs highly useful in Guild Hunt so maybe! Good luck!
Thanks Mei, I'll give it a shot. Although your heroes far outweigh mine, my Brutus barely makes a dent in warek lol
Put Blade on him. π
Mine didnβt get any faction bonus gear til I passed that stage so itβs nothing to be frantic over. π
Damn got down to just Warek.... what artifact do you put on Tasi?
Im stuck, any ideas??
Damn scratch that, beat it. Thanks a bunch @ashen schooner !
Nice congrats! @stone ginkgo
@ashen schooner can you help me?
Swap out Saveas for Arden and test it out.
It took 2 tries but I barley beat it with only Belinda. Thanks @ashen schooner
Congrats! @cerulean whale
What would u say is my best overall 5 heroes lineup?
@lament birch meta. Shem with brutus/Estrilda or sometimes lyca front, nemora lyca tasi or arden back.
Any tips or previous solutions for 21-54? Dm me or @ me here. Thank you for any help
Any ideas for mauler tower stage 60??
@charred wind borrow a high level warek from friend
@pale kettle try Athalia or nemora to charm Arden, A tasi should be able to tank umuls too.
@pale kettle tasi banish who?
@fierce kayak ira
@pale kettle @pale kettle anyway for chap 21, 240 Shem is easier. And if Shem cant ulti before she dies.. place call on her.
Yeah ty all, i see most using 240 shem
hmm ok, just need to wait for fodder for nemora tasi and 1 lb fodder
still need 14k dust π
@fierce kayak @ashen schooner thanks
@pale kettle try Nemora bottom to charm Sav, or nemora top charm ulums
Mhm! 
Whats about stage 19-38? Any ideas?
Hey Iβm sort of stuck everywhere. Is it just being underleveled or could I do something better with my lineup?
@charred wind I used
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shemira
@modest rampart See if swapping Nemora and Lyca placement helps at all. Nemora should charm that Saveas.
She used gets two shot and killed before she can get her charm off
Hmmm. Put Brutus instead of Hogan. @modest rampart
Not working either, everyone dies and leaves shemira alone so she gets cc-ed and cant heal
Trying to update my challenger tournament line up. Any thoughts?
Any tips?
@wide orbit any chance you have a tasi?
