#lineup-help

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vagrant goblet
haughty comet
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You'd be better off using Antandra or Numisu instead of Ankhira, but I would try to get a Khasos up there.

twilit perch
clear saddle
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@twilit perch #classic-questions next time. Since belinda seems to be your main carry for now, it might be good to upgrade her first. You can also get her to A after so it's a good choice

twilit perch
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thanks. that was my thoughts as well. the game loves giving me Belindas lol

vernal loom
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If only I could use Arden as fodder I have like 15+ levels of exp stockpiled but everyone keeps freaking out saying heโ€™s way too valuable....

haughty comet
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Arden is fantastic, but since you're getting past 160, and you have Tasi, you can use him as fodder. He's still very good later on, but he's starting to fall off with the level difference.

rotund wharf
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21-49 anything I could do better here?

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Nvm I just passed it with that same set up

neon basin
glacial heron
ashen schooner
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Try swapping the Shemira and Thane... or even putting Silvina in front of the Ogi.

pale kettle
ashen schooner
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Personally I would try swapping Hendrik and Lucius, then swapping out Tasi for Lyca.

pale kettle
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Alright Iโ€™ll try thanks

strange bobcat
clear saddle
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@strange bobcat Put your antandra front instead of safiya, and put safiya middle back

pale kettle
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That kina failed rip

glacial heron
ashen schooner
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Yeah I mean it's a bit rough with a Saveas, maybe
Lucius
Saveas
Arden
Tasi
Lyca @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Iโ€™ll try that too thanks for the help gus

vivid creek
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@ashen schooner help pls

pale kettle
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Was lowkey sad watching every wilder get 1 shot by the sav rip
Iโ€™ll keep trying tho

ashen schooner
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Nemora
Tasi
Arden
Brutus
Saveas maybe @vivid creek

vivid creek
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Ok tnx ๐Ÿ˜

pale kettle
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Wait i got it. I just reversed ur suggestion

ashen schooner
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Oh well, congrats ๐Ÿ™‚

pale kettle
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Thanks

vivid creek
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@ashen schooner gg made it ๐Ÿ˜

ashen schooner
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Congrats!

ashen schooner
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Switch out Fawkes for Arden then move him into middle backline and test that out. @paper heath

last kestrel
paper heath
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@ashen schooner not happening ๐Ÿ™‰ this guy dies instantly. Tried 10 Times, same thing over and over ๐Ÿ˜…

small acorn
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@paper heath get mor3 cc, rose isnt best for campaign

pale kettle
small acorn
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@paper heath need to tank khasos with shem. Trade out belinda/rose for arden and work on getting lyca and tasi. I know its a lot but you lack CC and you need raine to make belinda op

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@pale kettleur best wizz would be sav, bel, rose, lucius, shem

paper heath
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@small acornthe point is i didnt want to use Belinda, im not sure shes that good and i have so many mages in team and no Gear for all of them :D

small acorn
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@pale kettle rose and rowen are great for wizz to support shem

pale kettle
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Alright thanks

small acorn
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@paper heath belinda is good with aoe ults if she hits 3, or she resets ult from raine ult

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@paper heath bel is also good for wizz

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@paper heath you need 1 tank and shem plus 3 support usually

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So arden tasi lyca fawks rowan nem are good

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@paper heath
Arden
Lucius
Lyca
Shem
Tasi

Try this, gear them first

paper heath
small acorn
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Remove nem for tasi, you need to banush khasos throw

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Or he will just keep insta lyca and nem

paper heath
small acorn
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@paper heath aim for brutus, he is better for campaign. Lucius is great for pvp, laby and guild boss

paper heath
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@small acornhow do i AIM when im not pulling him? ๐Ÿ™„

small acorn
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@paper heath if your not throwing money in, just make sure you focus on core 5 so u dont have lvl cap issues

quaint current
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The event

small acorn
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Spend more money

vivid creek
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Senpais show me the way only 2 more and im done with the chapter ๐Ÿ˜

ivory quiver
quaint current
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Whats question^

ivory quiver
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@quaint current I asked @ivory swan for tips while progressing

quaint current
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

ivory quiver
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on my lineup

ivory swan
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@ivory quiver I'm not sure what stage your at, but I would focus on Saveas ( Ascending him without wasting any Ascended hereos (Hereos that can be white, Look in Portrait and you'll see hereos that can be so ) buy Shemira while you can and use Lucius, Lyca and Hogan

ivory quiver
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Im at chapter 4 stage 4

quaint current
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@vivid creek All i can tell you is on those levels up until you reach level 161+ , savaes is gon be your strongest and best bet with brutus

haughty comet
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Put Lyca in the middle.

quaint current
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So you should focus ok saveas to level 160

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He should carry so make him 121 instead of lucius

ivory quiver
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so its ok not to levelup other units and put all the stuff on saveas?

quaint current
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Well i leveled up sav as much as i could

ivory quiver
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how about my other units. should I reset them too to levelup saveas?

quaint current
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And kept them behind one jump so like 140 when he was 160, but i brought my other heroes up because when you get 161+ shemira is unstoppable

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Well no, first try to get him L/L+ and then use him w best gear imo but you want him lvl 160 but you gotta bring your other team w you to 140 ofc

ivory quiver
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so for now its ok that I progress with +20 level for saveas over other units?

quaint current
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But keep buying shemira from lab and hopefully you get some brutus/lucius/ and the wilders

ivory quiver
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yeah I will. I bought shemira in the lab earlier

quaint current
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Yea but you arent far into the game so you shouldnt reset, just wait until you have enough resources and ascension tiers to level up

ivory quiver
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I will. Thanks for the info. I'm doing the campaign as much as I could, but I feel later I'm gonna get stuck.

haughty comet
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I keep my main carry 20-40 levels above the rest of the team.

ivory quiver
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I will try to do that. As I'm lacking of hero experience.

dire crescent
torpid pelican
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@dire crescent
Burk
Khasros
Numisu
Brutus
Sav

onyx basin
vivid creek
torpid pelican
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@onyx basin there's no way sav isnt pummeling tasi. I dont know how lucius would fare but I'd put him agaisnt brutus. Maybe try athalia to get numisu off to get his tokens out of the way. You'll have to fiddle with it and the rng

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@sly sparrow switch shem and brutus then put tasi in the middle in stead of nemora and shem at the bottom

dire crescent
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@torpid pelican thanks,

idle mauve
sly sparrow
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@torpid pelican why would i put shem up back?

indigo jolt
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@sly sparrow
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Shem
Arden

sly sparrow
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i dont have arden... i foddeered him for my lyca

indigo jolt
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Even a blue one?

sly sparrow
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well he is R+ but i doubt he is useful pre-E

indigo jolt
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Give it a go.

torpid pelican
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@vivid creek put you're best dps in positions 4 and 5 and switch brutus and lucius to kill vedan. Put Arden on the top. If that dorsnt work put your best dps in position tasi in position 3 and Lyca in position 5. Ull have to keep didling with the tanks

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@sly sparrow shem vs wilder tank especislly when she isnt over leveled compared to the team is usually a disaster csuse factional disadvantage

sly sparrow
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she is overleveled tho

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@indigo jolt omg im so close to winning then ira kills shem

torpid pelican
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Belinda
Shem
Rosa
Brutus
Nemora
U may need to switch nemora and Belinda @idle mauve

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@sly sparrow redo that same round. If theres only one enemy left then ull win due to rng...eventually

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@thorn tapir
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Belinda

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@sly sparrow if you are using that Arden then just in case u didnt give him gear from the best mage you arent using

idle mauve
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shesms getting dleted early...

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neaither took front line jsut gets blown up

onyx basin
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@torpid pelican nah i dont think thats gonna work, everyone dies too quickly

solar rover
torpid pelican
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@onyx basin conceptually if you can drop sav and brutus the other three shouldnt be atrocious I cant see all the heroes but fiddle with the configs and see if theres a way to get their dps out of the way AP ur dps can do their job

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@solar rover not a lineup question but yeah she had her perks.

idle mauve
torpid pelican
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@idle mauve try Rowan instead of rosa and switch nemora and belinda

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hendrik may be able to hold the main tank position so
Shem
Hendrik
Rosa
Brutus
Belinda

Rowan might work as well instead of rosa @idle mauve

vivid creek
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@torpid pelican brutus always dies before lucious can shield up and right after shield lucious dies aswell then its gg

thorn tapir
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@torpid pelican its way too much cc killing me lol

torpid pelican
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@vivid creek my soloution for niru is usually kaz lol. Niru keeps draining their energy. Maybe try switching tasi and lyca for that wilder config I gave you. Maybe try zolrath in front and lucius in back

idle mauve
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@torpid pelican lol ended with sherm v saviass. still aloss but lemme see if rng will take

copper moon
torpid pelican
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@thorn tapir If you have an l+ Arden I'd put him on top and lyca in back If not yolo it and try my fav raine rosa Belinda combo. If that shows results switxh rosa for tasi. Fiddle with it

idle mauve
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damn a lot of rng to get there thanks @torpid pelican

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worked with rowan

ivory swan
torpid pelican
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@idle mauve long live rng sama

idle mauve
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yea man... like 10-11 runs. swapp equip and artifacts lol

torpid pelican
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@ivory swan switch Belinda thane ditch thane for rosa or Rowan. The issue here is that friking mage killer lol

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@idle mauve rule of thumb is as long is if theres only 2 enemies left eith some fiddling and a alot of rng you can beat that level

ivory swan
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@torpid pelican Nope xD didn't work whatsoever lol

torpid pelican
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@ivory swan it was a huge long shot. How did it play out with the teams you used

ivory swan
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I ended up getting it, I switched out Fawkes for Rowan and Thane for Rosa. Just so Rowan could tank Silv, and Two energy buffing hereos xD gg lol @torpid pelican

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Belinda ended up getting her ulti off three times in a row and it was gg.

torpid pelican
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@ivory swan well done

thorn tapir
torpid pelican
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@thorn tapir nicely done!

I'm going off for abit @ me if you need me

void blade
ivory swan
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@void blade Lemme see your Hereos I might be able to work out something.

torpid pelican
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@void blade you're using light bearer tanks on graveborn. Switch. Brutus in so
Arden
Lucius
Tasi
Brutus
Belinda
See how that goes

void blade
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@ivory swan it's what you see in screen, @torpid pelican I'll try that, if not I'll just have to wait for a bit and try again

torpid pelican
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@void blade fiddle with it a bit the level differnce is only 7

pale kettle
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How do i get Arden past 160?

torpid pelican
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The crystal. He cant break mythic @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Heโ€™s in my crystal but heโ€™s still capped at 160

torpid pelican
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@pale kettle well that's what it is then.

pale kettle
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So all rare heroes canโ€™t be used past 160

torpid pelican
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@pale kettle sounds about right. They're just fodder

pale kettle
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That sucks

ashen schooner
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Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi @pale kettle

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If it doesn't work after a few tries, tell me who Silvina is jumping on.

pale kettle
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Oh shit wrong screenshot @ashen schooner

ashen schooner
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O.

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Okies.

pale kettle
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Here we go @ashen schooner

ashen schooner
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Yeah that should work @pale kettle

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Just reset a few times, maybe change around artifacts if you need to.

midnight spade
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@ashen schooner Im actually stuck in the stage he sent above

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with the 4 gbs and angelo, who should I let silvina jump on

pale kettle
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Second try it worked lol @ashen schooner

ashen schooner
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@copper moon May I see your heroes?

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Oops

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@midnight spade

midnight spade
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@ashen schooner Ye ill dm them to you

karmic summit
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@ me when u give me advice pls

violet coral
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@karmic summit if you get another tasi copy, ascend tasi using your iras as fodder

cerulean whale
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It's labyrinth

violet coral
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rng, maybe switch vurk out for shem?

karmic summit
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Yes I know that alr

sinful monolith
clear dagger
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@sinful monolith try switching the position of belinda and saveas. I think angelo donโ€™t deserve a slot in the crystal. Level up only 5 heroes, reset the witch LB, sorry i forgot her name..

versed canopy
idle mauve
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does everyone create new lineups for each stage or is there a standard they use?

karmic summit
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I just have a main team and then a bunch of useful heroes that i interchange with in my resonating crystal

manic steeple
sinful monolith
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@clear dagger made it to chapter 7,thanks!

idle mauve
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i need to build a main team then.. so i can gear em.

digital shuttle
clear dagger
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@cerulean whale i think relics improve the chance to win in the lab. Get more fights as much as you can to obtain good relics. Try using arden instead of vurk. Arden is a good cc

manic steeple
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@digital shuttle try utilizing your faction advantage

clear dagger
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@sinful monolith nice!! merek_dio

digital shuttle
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how so @manic steeple

pale kettle
clear dagger
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@digital shuttle can i request for the complete roster your heroes? maybe i can help

digital shuttle
clear dagger
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@digital shuttle try
Mehira
Thoran
Arden
Hogan
Saveas

karmic summit
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Switch saveas place with Arden then switch Arden with hogan try that

digital shuttle
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ty for the help guys, not enought yet, maybe i need to chill and get some exp for a while lol

idle mauve
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Looking to build a standard team.usally use Belinda Ros nemora behind Hogan and Hendrick.

manic steeple
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@digital shuttle i would run 3 wilders 2 maulers

digital shuttle
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Even tough they are lower tier?

manic steeple
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I would definitely try it

clear dagger
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@idle mauve focus on building the meta team, i think.
Tasi, lyca, shem, brutus and nemora. Itโ€™s not good to have those number of elites. The fodders must be used wisely. Ascend only to L+/M+ if you have enough copies and fodders

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Read pinned msgs on #classic-questions about the rule on ascension. It will help you bigtime

idle mauve
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yea i just got told that... im starting to scale back but not putting anyone over l till im ready to put the to l+ is what i read. do i use the lyca even tho shes not l?

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i just downloaded the pdf from channel will read

urban flax
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I can ascend my mythic shem to ascendant 1 star, but I would have to burn my E+ ferael in the process, worth? Shem is level 180, M brutus level 170, rest of heroes are L+ (or below) level 160

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Or I could use one of my 3 e+ shems and just go to ascendant no star

clear dagger
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Noooo, dont use him as fodder. Youโ€™ll regret it. Ferael is good as replacement of shem after midgame. Wait for the fodders.

indigo jolt
pale kettle
old ore
river needle
clear dagger
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@old ore we canโ€™t tell much, whatโ€™s in your bag?

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Relics

old ore
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Nothing special, just the sunstone

flint karma
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@old ore My biggest suggestion is to fill up your ultimate gauge in stages 1 and 2 for all of your heroes with "game-changing" ults...

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For example, If your Tasi had her ult prepared, you could burst down a large portion of the enemy team and make the fight a lot easier for yourself.

old ore
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Nope, impossible, she uses the ult and then once everyone wakes up, it's fucked beyond belief

clear dagger
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@old ore
Try
Raine
Zolrath (one with more energy)
Ezizh
Hogan
Rosa

Or
Tasi
Zolrath(one with more energy
Nemora
Saveas
Ezizh..

old ore
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Lab is the worst thing ever, and I'm ready to delete this game and never look back due to this piece of shit. Even if I beat this now, what about floor 3!? Then there's a hard mode? This is trash, and I'm just about ready to throw my phone

clear dagger
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You can enjoy lab when you have the good relics.

flint karma
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I would try -
Rosaline
Saveas
Arden
Tasi
Nemora

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Rosaline and Sav can do magic together. Arden to follow up with roots after Tasi's ult wears off. Hopefully Nemora can land a clutch charm and keep everyone healthy.

old ore
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@clear dagger that was garbage, I've never seen my heroes die quicker

clear dagger
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Iโ€™m sorry cryingmirael

old ore
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Ok I'm sorry for being rude, but none of these comps work. I give up, this is too much p2w, and if i don't throw my phone or kill myself, I'm gonna throw up at least

flint karma
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The concept behind AFK Arena is to persevere with strategy. It wouldn't be fun if everything was completed with ease.

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Challenges are what make any game fun. It can be frustrating, but overcoming it is very satisfying. I got stuck on the same area of campaign for almost a week, but l bust through every time. lt's just about patience and knowing a solution will arise.

old ore
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I did it with brutus, saveas, rosa, nem and tasi. But they all died. Worth it to use a tear?

flint karma
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Also, Arden really comes online after lv 141, as he gets 3 roots.

old ore
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@flint karma let's not lie to ourselves, the strategy is minimal, it's all about money

flint karma
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When all fails, definitely use a tear. That's what they're there for!
Money in any game is going to incorporate an advantage. That doesn't mean your obstacle is impossible.

clear dagger
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how many tears did you have?

old ore
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It is. When i use level 130 heroes and i get 190s against me, how am i expected to beat the shit without buying 18 athalias, brutuses and whatever else? Even the newest event is 50/50 luck and money, no skill or strategy involved. I have 23 tears, still can't decide if i should use one

flint karma
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Actually, Lab is designed to overcome enemies that are much higher rank and level than oneself. The relics obtained along the path make it more than possible to do so. Same thing applies to Peaks of Time. There is definitely an RNG component to what kind of relics appear, but strategy also plays a role in what you decide to choose.

pale kettle
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Wait more dupes

flint karma
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@mossy ledge l agree with @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Donโ€™t use ascended heroes as fodder... and ul wanna use saveas as ur carry for a good while

mossy ledge
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So when I get more dupes, focus on Saveas first?

old ore
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It's not strategy, screw off with that. What's with y'all Stockholm syndrome'd folks? It's hell

flint karma
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Yes, focus on Sav first @mossy ledge Then work towards Brutus after Sav is L+

mossy ledge
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Okay awesome! Ty!

flint karma
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Anyways, GL @old ore l've said all there is to say ๐Ÿ˜„

wise merlin
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@old ore Hey there ๐Ÿ™‚ Please keep casual conversations out of this channel, it's not meant for discussions, you're to be given an advice (that does not guarantee victory but is given due to experience of others) and try your best to pull through.

Then again, this game isn't to please everyone and anyone, someone will always find a flaud too appalling and disappear from the game, it happens.

With all due respect however, please respect the rules of this chat as well as #classic-questions ๐Ÿ˜Š

pale kettle
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Anywho...... 21-37... anyone any tips? Or managed to clear with similar set ups? @ me or drop me a DM. Thanks for any potential help/advice

indigo jolt
pale kettle
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@indigo jolt donโ€™t really have another atm, and used merc this week, may have to give it a shot on Sunday. Ty tho sir, will try then if I donโ€™t clear it before

indigo jolt
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@pale kettle Your Brutus will work probably. Thats why i said try different tanks.

haughty comet
pale kettle
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Yeah shemira wonโ€™t work til much later on, should focus on over levelling saveas rn... with maybe hogan, maybe estrilda too at front, could use belinda and another dps - but saveas will carry u rn

indigo jolt
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@haughty comet Shouldn't be running both.
Also, Arden is generally better than Nemora unless need to charm a key hero, early-mid game.
Overlevel Saveas instead of Shemira.
Try running Skreg/Hogan/Ezizh as other tank.

haughty comet
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I was going that route, but got super lucky on this server. Guess Saveas is the way to go even if you get the Trio early on. Thank you. @pale kettle

indigo jolt
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Sav early meta, is generally run as Brutus Saveas, Lyca Tasi (Arden/Nemora).

haughty comet
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That's what I was hoping for. Figured Shemira could out heal the damage she took. Not this early, she won't.

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Currently, the tanks I have available and Hogan/Skreg/Estrilda/Ezizh. Probably best to use Hogan, right?

indigo jolt
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Unsure on how Skreg is after rework,may be worth for the 3-2 Bonus.But Hogan is a solid early game tank.

haughty comet
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I'll have them both handy, thank you.

copper moon
ivory swan
coral pier
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add athalia and rowan and make athalia attack arden

plucky flint
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Guess Iโ€™m posting 22-42 everyday till someone has a working lineup. Think Iโ€™ll need to step outside of the standard meta (estrilda? Nara?) but nothingโ€™s come close to working so far. Shem at full M+ gb gear so no big power spikes on the way.

coral pier
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Whats the main issue of the comp? Does shemira not get to use her skill or does she not deal enough dmg?

plucky flint
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@ivory swan Iโ€™d try lyca shem arden nem athalia 1-5

onyx basin
plucky flint
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@coral pier the issue is they hit so fast and hard and thereโ€™s tons of cc immunity. Even if shem gets an ult off, everyone else is usually dead (except maybe brutus).

coral pier
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Have you tried swapping brutus to top part of frontline since he could handle the cc better

peak stratus
plucky flint
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@coral pier Shem canโ€™t stay alive through brutโ€™s last gasp

indigo jolt
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@peak stratus I would crystal Numisu if you can.
Saf
Brutus
Khasos
Warek
Numisu

plucky flint
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But I mean, the success rate feels equally hopeless up top so who knows @coral pier

onyx basin
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@coral pier idk if that was for me but it worked haha thanks

peak stratus
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@indigo jolt can't crystal ๐Ÿ˜ญ

indigo jolt
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@peak stratus Any reason why you're Sav and ankhira are in crystal?

peak stratus
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not really just bcs they were there..

indigo jolt
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Then, use either as fodder.

plucky flint
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@peak stratus sav is well past the point of being useful to you. Go ahead and fodder him

peak stratus
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Oh okay ๐Ÿ˜„ thx :3

indigo jolt
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It won't put the slot on cooldown. So you'll get a crystal spot.

peak stratus
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Should i fodder him to warek or numi ? -> i have 2 wareks reserve no numis

indigo jolt
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Warek is more useful generally, and Numisu isnt teh best investment from Challenger store unless needed.

peak stratus
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i see tyvm!!

twilit ocean
midnight crag
runic arrow
swift crescent
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@runic arrow try switching shemira for Hogan, and saveas for arden

torpid pelican
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@swift crescent how about for the back athalia tasi and nemora

swift crescent
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@torpid pelican same result. I'll keep trying

torpid pelican
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@swift crescent for the back lyca tasi and nemora

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@swift crescent actuallyy long shot
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Shem
Sav

swift crescent
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@torpid pelican is lyca God tier? Everyone recommends her

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Seems like the best savage heroes are lyca tasi nemora

torpid pelican
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@swift crescent she and tasi are a good team it's more the combination

covert moon
warm prairie
rocky crescent
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Lb 87 everyone is dead before Belinda pops from the coffin and she can knit get two ults off with energy trinket.

violet pine
indigo jolt
rocky crescent
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@indigo jolt no Rowan sadly

indigo jolt
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Use raine.

rocky crescent
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Wait, ok I see wha. You did now front line . Ok Iโ€™ll try it

indigo jolt
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@violet pine Does your frontline survive till Rowan ults?

violet pine
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No estrilda dies next to instantly

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Then brutus ult normaly hits rowan

indigo jolt
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@violet pine If Shem in that spot. Key is to survive till you can immune and cancel.

rocky crescent
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Wait, ok I see wha. You did now front line . Ok Iโ€™ll try it

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@indigo jolt first try, thank you

violet pine
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K nevermind tower ima probably be there for a while

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Real talk is how I'm getting past this

toxic solstice
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15-36, any advice please ? I always use Belinda Rosaline Rowan Lucius Fawkes, but now Shemira is way better than Belinda in the comp, but still not enough. Should I try something else or just give it time ?

copper moon
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@toxic solstice
Try

Athalia
---- Lucius
Rowan
---- Shemira
Tasi

Also put Arden and Lyca in resonating crystal

toxic solstice
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I'm going to try that right now

solar mason
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I have a similar set up

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I use belinda rosalins lucius nemora and a side tank depending on the enemy

fickle loom
copper moon
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@vivid creek
Try

Belinda
---- Brutus
Mehira
---- Lucius
Tasi

fickle loom
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(Sorry, I don't know why they're appearing as separate messages when I could upload two at once before...)

toxic solstice
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@copper moon Thanks for trying to help but I'm getting hardcore-wiped very fast with this suggested comp. BUT, I didnt know that Athalia being just elite could pull out such a performance, I guess i'm gonna try to work on that, she manages to effectively control Isabella at the begining of the fight, aka, no red thunder making ppl disappear xD

copper moon
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@fickle loom
Try

Saveas
---- Brutus
Nemora
---- Lucius
Belinda

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@toxic solstice if you had Lyca and Arden in your crystal I could give you a setup that would work better

toxic solstice
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I can do that, but isnt the dream backline Tasi Nemora Lyca ? Why Arden then ?

copper moon
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@toxic solstice Arden roots 3 enemies in place making it 5v2

toxic solstice
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Lyca Arden Tasi or Lyca Arden Nemora ?

copper moon
#

@fickle loom
You could also try

Saveas
---- Brutus
Arden
---- Lucius
Lyca

fickle loom
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Can I ask why? Kinda wanna learn how to figure out lineups myself too, plus I just don't understand removing my 2nd dps for now (Shem)

copper moon
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@fickle loom 2 Carries compete for damage meaning you have less chance to disrupt enemies. Longer enemies are distracted more damage you can dish out

fickle loom
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@copper moon Oh alright, thanks, not seeing progress yet but I'mm throw myself at it a couple times more, sorry for late reply I'm getting phone calls all of a sudden.

toxic solstice
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@copper moon Lyca is in crystal now, should I give her a chance ?

torn lava
#

Stuck in faction towers floor 35 lb :/ any ideas guys?

fickle loom
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Seeing more progress w/ 2nd team but Nemora is roflstomping me, guess it's time to use that and wait for levels.

torn lava
toxic solstice
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I would put Rosaline instead of Hendrik and make sure she's sticking to Belinda

torn lava
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Who do i frontline in that case? Lucius and?

toxic solstice
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Rosaline can take hits very good because of her passive, I've reached 15-36 while using her asa frontline all this time

torn lava
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I see

toxic solstice
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If she insta-dies, maybe try to keep Hendrik but removing Gwyneth

copper moon
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@toxic solstice
Try

Athalia
---- Lucius
Tasi
---- Lyca
Shemira

toxic solstice
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Thanks again but still not working. So far the teamcomp that worked the best was: Fawkes Rowan Shemira (back, up to down) and Lucius Rosaline (front, up to down), but victory isn't possible too. But yeah... I guess I'm going to have to play more meta to go further and build the classic wilder trio. But I guess I'm a bit under leveled (but i'm capped to 160 for a while now) or under ascended, I probably just need more time

fierce kayak
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@torn lava is this tower? Anyway.. overlevel carry. Don't even level team.

ivory swan
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That didn't work whatsoever .-. but thank you :)

mellow hound
pale kettle
toxic solstice
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@pale kettle, Rowan in the middle, then try to ajust order of the others, Rosaline in the front is a good option too, with double tank one on front of the other

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@winged quest, Pretty much anything would be a better teamcomp than this one. Just keep Belinda and use other heros. But since your Numisu is over-leveled, you can try a full Mauler team to get that juicy buff

torpid pelican
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@random verge you can use shem as the second tank. Pretty much just try switching lyca and shem.

random verge
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I have lol @torpid pelican no luck

pale kettle
torpid pelican
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did u try putting nara against estrillda? @random verge

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@pale kettle honestly I can suggest a few differnt things but i see them all coming a tad short. Keep mixing and matching till theres one 1-2 enemies left and then just push the rng till it gives you then win

pale kettle
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Icic i think my characters might simply be weak atm

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But will try different comps until it works thanks!!

random verge
pale kettle
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@toxic solstice thanks I passed the chapter

opal gulch
steel moat
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I use estrilda instead of brutus because mine is stronger than my brutus, i always say to everyone to use brutus instead tasi

opal gulch
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Oof estrilda ulricry ah ok

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Thanks :)

steel moat
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Np and good luck!

opal gulch
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Who was silv bait?

steel moat
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Tasi

pale kettle
steel moat
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@pale kettle try this:

Athalia/Nemora
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Saveas

pale kettle
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saveas cant out dps the heal from saveas

toxic solstice
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Try Belinda Hogan Fawkes Brutus and Nemora or Mehira

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Fawkes coffin will help a lot

opal gulch
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@steel moat I cleared it alr but thanks :)

west iron
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@pale kettle can try brutus, saveas in the front (with dura's grace if you have) and with gwyneth behind brutus to target saveas, fawkes (in the middle), and belinda behind saveas?

iron kelp
sour bay
ashen schooner
#

Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Tasi
Nemora @sour bay

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Just test it out and try it.

sour bay
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Ty, I'll keep trying, they are still wrecking me atm
Vedan and Ira's ult decimate me @ashen schooner

steel moat
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@iron kelp who does tasi banis? That's a really solid setup elethathink so you should be able to beat it with some rng

teal glade
steel moat
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I'd go

Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius/Brutus
Nemora

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Wait, do you have a lyca?

teal glade
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E+

steel moat
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That's ok, her haste is needed to root the other arden before he roots you

Try this as your backline

Lyca

Arden

Tasi

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You have 200 crystal and 220 shemira so it's definitely possible!

teal glade
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Just a hyper rng stage im guessing? Mercs reset soon too. OH RIGHT CRYSTALS 200 I CAN BOOST SHEM

steel moat
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Yeah ulricry any stages with wilders and arden will be highly rng dependent

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Well that'll definitely help tasi

teal glade
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Ugh almost got it. Kaz and arden didnt quite die after tasi ult before their ardens ult

copper moon
ivory swan
teal glade
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@copper moon yea sounds like the core is shem brutus nem lyca. I just got 3 down and died to ulmus sav. Def close. Tasi my 5rh

steel moat
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@ivory swan maybe try
Khasos/Fawkes
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca
Arden

The hope is that ogi gets charmed, lyca can dodge enough hits to keep your backline alive, and arden roots enemy arden before he can root you

ivory swan
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@steel moat I get the idea but Arden immediately gets lifted and then it's over.

copper moon
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@ivory swan
You could also try

Shemira
---- Brutus
Tasi /Arden
---- Lyca
Arden/Tasi

trail olive
steel moat
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You should replace either tasi or nemora on the resonating crystal (i'd say tasi because it will be easier to break the 140 level cap with nemora since she is a lab hero) but you don't have to replace tasi in your formation, her, nemora, and arden will be a great backline

vivid creek
teal glade
steel moat
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Wonder if this will work @vivid creek
Tasi
Saveas
Arden
Lucius
Lyca

@teal glade grats!

teal glade
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Jfc 20-54 is just as bad ffs

copper moon
vivid creek
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@steel moat omg it finaly worked, tnx ๐Ÿ˜

steel moat
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Np!

teal glade
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Accidentally beat 54 while fading in and out of sleep....

ashen schooner
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@pale kettle
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
The hopes are, even though Ulmus gets root on Shemira, Arden roots will save you from the trouble of the rest of the team. Put the better gear on him if you can.

pale kettle
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shemira gets charmed

ashen schooner
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This is with 220 Shem and 180 Crystal for me.

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Yeah if you can, you need to root Nemora before she can charm.

pale kettle
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tasi teleport 1 shots arden

ashen schooner
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Just reset since teleport is random.

pale kettle
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thn i get charmed

ashen schooner
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What are your levels rn?

pale kettle
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180 crystal

ashen schooner
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Not 220 Shem though? Or 200 Brutus?

small acorn
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What stage, is it a ulmus nem comp?

ashen schooner
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Yes.

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20-37.

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The lineup I sent was what I beat it with.

pale kettle
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no brutus is not 200

ashen schooner
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Ah okay. I had 220 Shem and 200 Brutus so it may be a bit difficult.

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That lineup does work though.

pale kettle
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no lyca ?

small acorn
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All ulmus nem comps are hard, too much sustain. Beef your brutus and put him opposite ulmus. Use tasi and lyca in backline and hope for quick shem ult with dura call + brutus damage to kill ulmus before he ults

ashen schooner
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You can also try
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Tasi
Nemora

small acorn
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If you kill ulmus before he ults win conditions improve dramatically

pale kettle
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who do i need nemo to charm

ashen schooner
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Ulmus, though he may also get banished.

small acorn
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Enemy arden is there ia one

ashen schooner
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There isn't.

pale kettle
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dreaf gets banished.

ashen schooner
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LOL

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Yeah then Ulmus.

small acorn
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Send me comp, i cannot remember

ashen schooner
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------Dreaf
Golus
Tasi
Ulmus
Nemora

small acorn
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Charm enemy nemora

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I dont know your heros but this shouldnt be too hard with
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Nem

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You can swap out nem for arden as well

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Otherwise need lvls or gear

analog peak
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I would like some help finding a new frontline to pair with Lucious. Im using Skreg right now and have Shem, Belinda, and Raine in my backline.

Willing to work around with belinda and Raine but id like to keep Shem and Lucious in my party.

outer pike
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Should i replace ira with saveas?

vernal loom
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@analog peak Work hard on getting Saveas he will single handedly carry you to 160. Shem isnโ€™t good until 161+

ashen schooner
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Ira?

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@outer pike

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You don't have an Ira.

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You mean Silvina?

vernal loom
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@outer pike you need saveas

outer pike
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Sorry yes silvina

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Ok ill try it ty

vernal loom
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@outer pike saveas should be 140 not Belinda

ashen schooner
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Yeah, Saveas may benefit you, but you could try swapping in Tasi for 3/2 Faction bonus as well.

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Saveas is generally a better carry for early on until Chapter 15.

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Whatever works for you though.

violet pine
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Help please

ashen schooner
#

Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira @violet pine

violet pine
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K

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This is gonna be a while

brittle summit
torpid pelican
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@brittle summit have you tried kelthur? Maybe kelthur instead of mara and then isa instead of ferael. I'm not sure howd that play out but I think kelthur might be able to ease the tasi and sav issues

icy orchid
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Iโ€™m completely stuck and donโ€™t know what faction to focus or what to main to push. Iโ€™m on 6-24 any suggestions are appreciated do I just need to wait for more levels? What heroes should I play / level ect

ashen schooner
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Try @brittle summit
Isabella
Shemira
Ferael/Baden
Grezhul
Nara

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Please post the enemy lineup. @icy orchid

icy orchid
clear saddle
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@icy orchid click begin then take the screenshot

torpid pelican
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@icy orchid yeah I was about to sane hat Tuesday said knowing the formation helps

icy orchid
torpid pelican
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@icy orchid whoa so I dont know whata going on with your characters and their levels but for the formation. Yiu should be able to wreck eith light borns
Fawkes
Hogan
Gwyen
Estrillda
Belinda

pale kettle
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Floor 95 Wilder. Need help

torpid pelican
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@icy orchid however over all you should have alot of those in the dezpnating crystal you'll need a wide variety of characters tasi defintly focus on. J really never used ankhira but have silvia Arden Hogan niru sav good to go. You should take time to explore your elite ascended characters and zee what works for you. Currently tasi Belinda fawkes are the three most meta I see you have. Estrillda is a passable tank. Ferael gets better later. Numisu is my favorite support early on but tasi is better. Khasros will do untill you get brutus I could go on but really u need to familiarize yourself and ask more specific questions

ashen schooner
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Try @pale kettle
Tasi
Kaz
Lyca
Eironn
Nemora

pale kettle
icy orchid
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@torpid pelican thank you so much

torpid pelican
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@pale kettle so my favorite combo is raine and Belinda. That would entail replacing Arden with raine and sav with Belinda. If that doesnt work you xan try replacing sav with nemora.

clear saddle
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@pale kettle replace lucius and saveas with brutus and tasi then run:

Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

torpid pelican
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@clear saddle wont tasi get trashed though?

@pale kettle if you're gonna use tasi give her the good gear u probably have on Belinda right now.

clear saddle
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She shouldnt

radiant field
serene basin
torpid pelican
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@radiant field should've told u before. Send a picture of the stage ur stuck on. The formation and all

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@serene basin can I see your complete hero list to see what you need

serene basin
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I've been stuck on like 18-24 for a week now and have basically stalled due to lack of ascension levels/base stats, not just in campaign but in general

torpid pelican
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@serene basin so you have shem all the way up so you dont need Belinda really. I doubt estrillda is performing to par either so I'd give the mireal to lucius as for sav I'm kinda iffy on it. I doubt hes hella relevant so u should give him to khasros but ud know more than me how much you use him

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@supple condor your against markers so light borns should help
Tasi
Shem
Rosa
Brutus
Belinda

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@serene basin cant you make more l+ rares seems like u have plenty of copies

serene basin
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for which faction @torpid pelican

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maybe for wilders and GB but im holding out so as to see what units i get to see who to focus, kinda basically saving to see what rng gives me not what i want persay, just incase the game says no, and i get no more of that hero

torpid pelican
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@serene basin make your l+s and see where you can go from there I cant see all of them but you might have enoigh wilder's to make an ascended tasi. U should start ascending them and see who u csn take up.

Ah I see what your saying but I think an ascended tasi is pretty good or at least mythic

shy crag
torpid pelican
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@shy crag you need a better primary tank.
Arden
Ogi (he probably wont work out so
try again with verdan then sav)
Angelo
Hogan
Belinda
I never used angelo much so if he doesnt work out juat go with vurk

serene basin
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@torpid pelican I was thinking belinda due to the fact that i use Belinda Estrilda, rowan, and rosa for the buffs they give to shem for guild hunts, that or estrilda,
as far as savaes, i dont ever use him in campaign, i use Brutus shem, lyca, nemora, or tasi, the only time i use him is in faction tower, because atm hes the most damage i have from that, its just my maulers are behind and ive stalled super hard on mauler tower. so i was thinking feed him to khasos, and use savaes's crystal slot, and the extra one i already have for skreg, and vurk, the only time i really use him is in the new camp grounds for the guild, and one of the arena with the multiple teams
Ive been holding out on tasi, because i still want to use her for silvinia bait, and i dont have the nemora copies either so im just waiting to see what the game gives me,
I have enough fodder to make either Eironn, gorvo, or ulmus, to L+, but then that would slow down my fodder for the main 3 i use atm. in theory i could use arden as fodder, but he's too useful still. for graveborn, I'm still waiting for copies to take another to L+ but i have the fodder to take them to L, i just dont wanna choose wrong and i rarely use GB and shem is carrying hard still,

torpid pelican
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@serene basin you've got a solid plan there bud run with it. Belinda is a great option and runs well with the Rowan rosa support

supple condor
clear saddle
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@supple condor Take out tasi and replace with nemora

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if ferael doesnt get charmed reset

supple condor
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alrighty i shall try, big thank

urban egret
ashen schooner
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@urban egret Do you have an Arden?

urban egret
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I do not

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not higher than R that is

ashen schooner
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Mmm try
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus/Lucius
Shemira @urban egret

urban egret
#

kk

shy crag
supple condor
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@clear saddle cant seem to even put a dent in them, ferael is charmed consistently but I've never gotten any of them below 1/3 hp

urban egret
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worked like a charm thx man

ashen schooner
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@shy crag Try moving Arden to middle backline

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@urban egret Congrats ๐Ÿ™‚

copper moon
ashen schooner
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@feral agate Try
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius/Brutus
Lyca
Make sure Silvina jumps on Tasi.

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Oof. Which floor is this. @copper moon

copper moon
#

80

ashen schooner
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Hmmm maybe
Arden
Ulmus
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora @copper moon

copper moon
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@ashen schooner Tried, but no luck none of them can damage Warek

ashen schooner
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Okay maybe
Lyca
Tasi
Eironn
Seirus
Nemora @copper moon

copper moon
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@ashen schooner
That might work I killed the Warek and Tasi ran out of time before the last hit on Vurk

ashen schooner
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If not after a while, I'll try to make another one. BRUHtus

copper moon
ashen schooner
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Congrats friend โค @copper moon

haughty comet
ashen schooner
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Could always see what switching Saveas and Belinda does for you.

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Same with Hogan and Lucius.

haughty comet
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If I move Saveas down, he dies to Estrilda. If I move Lucius down, he dies ungodly fast.

ashen schooner
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Huh. Okay. Maybe try swapping out Hogan for Kaz, just to test it out.

haughty comet
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Kaz didn't work. Ran it 10 times, and I got unlucky with RNG. I guess I just need levels. Thanks, though. @ashen schooner

ashen schooner
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Sorry it didn't work out! Good luck ๐Ÿ™‚

copper moon
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@charred wind try swapping Lyca and Brutus

ember bane
copper moon
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@ember bane
Eye on Lucius
Call on Mehira
Chalice on Tasi
Blade on Shemira

Reset every time Lucius first hit isn't a haste and pray to RNGesus Shemira will dodge 3 hits

That's how I beat it if I remember correctly

reef birch
strange spire
sudden gulch
potent acorn
ashen schooner
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@reef birch Try
Saveas
Brutus
Mehira
Lucius
Athalia

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@strange spire She would be better if she is geared and all of that good stuff. Your Belinda will most likely outdamage her still.

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@sudden gulch You want to overlevel the damage carry of your team, you can choose between Belinda or Saveas. As for comp, I'd say
Nemora
Khasos
Belinda
Lucius
Saveas
would be an okay lineup, just needing more support/cc later.

sudden gulch
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Okay thank you:)

delicate kiln
ashen schooner
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Try swapping Belinda out for Arden or Nemora to lock down that Ferael. @delicate kiln

delicate kiln
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Iโ€™ve tried that unfortunately he doesnโ€™t last long enough. I also tried lyca nem and tasi instead of the LBโ€™s and couldnโ€™t make that work either. Been stuck here for several days now

ashen schooner
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Which stage is this?

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@delicate kiln

delicate kiln
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20-42

ashen schooner
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Mmm.. Let's see.
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
@delicate kiln Let me see your artifact placement.

delicate kiln
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On those characters?

ashen schooner
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Just overall.

delicate kiln
ashen schooner
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Call - Shemira
Blade - Brutus
Eye - Lyca
Drape / Chalice - Tasi
Grace - Nemora @delicate kiln

delicate kiln
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Iโ€™ll give it a shot. What formation?

ashen schooner
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The one I sent above.

delicate kiln
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My gear is a little thin on intellect chars should I throw the more powerful stuff on tasi since she is only leg+ and nem is mythic+ ?

ashen schooner
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You can but your best gear should be on Shemira.

delicate kiln
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It is. I meant second best

ashen schooner
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Then yeah, most likely would be best for Tasi for a bit more survivability.

delicate kiln
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Alright trying it now

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Ten attempts no luck shem dies almost immediately. Really need to ascend her but I need 2 more copies

silver vigil
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My team is: Ascended 1* Brutus, Ascended 1* Shemira and Mythic Tasi, Mythic Nemora and Mythic Lyca. I have enough copies of Tasi, Nemora and Lyca to take any one of them all the way to Ascended 1* but I only have enough fodder to do one. Who should I do?

delicate kiln
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Tasi or nem first is what I would say

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@ashen schooner any other suggestions?

ashen schooner
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That's what I personally used to beat that level. I'd say it'd be much easier with an Arden.

silver vigil
#

Hey uwu, what do you think about my question?

delicate kiln
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Iโ€™ll give him a try again. Who else should I run with him?

ashen schooner
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Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi possibly @delicate kiln

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I would probably do Lyca first, but that's my opinion. @silver vigil

delicate kiln
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Swap the grace from nem to arden or tasi?

ashen schooner
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Do you have Chalice?

silver vigil
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Thanks, yeah it's a hard choice...

delicate kiln
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Yes

ashen schooner
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Put Chalice on Tasi, Drape on Arden.

delicate kiln
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Ok. Grace on brutus then or stick with blade?

ashen schooner
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Stick with Blade.

delicate kiln
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Alright iโ€™ll try it. Thanks mate

ashen schooner
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Mhm! I can try to swap around some stuff too if that doesn't work out.

delicate kiln
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Yea itโ€™s a little better but the formation works better as lyca brutus up front then arden shem tasi in back in that order

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Also I put eye on arden to get the roots out faster

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@ashen schooner

ashen schooner
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Well, also

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You'll need to get that Shemira Ascended for more damage

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So it may be good to wait until Ascended and just keep trying lineups that almost work to try to get lucky

delicate kiln
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Yea iโ€™m saving lab coins currently. And yea Iโ€™ve been trying so has my guild so I figured iโ€™d try here and see if anyone had any other ideas but I kinda figured I needed the ascension. I actually havenโ€™t seen anyone be at this stage without a single ascended so I think I got pretty lucky in the first place

ashen schooner
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You could also always try mercenary Shemira Ascended. ๐Ÿ™‚

delicate kiln
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Yea I plan on either that or a better arden on reset today.

novel adder
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merc shem would be level 200 too i think.. unfortunately

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the level cap is the crippling thing

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try renting an estrilda in place of brutus in the formation mei recommended

delicate kiln
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It will be. But he also will have 1000 more defense and a good bit more attack than mine iโ€™ve already looked.

novel adder
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estrilda 30% attack bonus helps push content.

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plus if you can manage to kill one or 2.. the sig procs and you snowball to win

delicate kiln
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Yea another guild mate suggested that or possibly even warek or raine

strange spire
#

thanks @ashen schooner so just keep my lineup the same and dont use Gwyneth?

charred wind
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@copper moon dont work cant even kill one of them :( need help -.-

ashen schooner
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I would advise against it unless you pour more resources into her. ๐Ÿ™‚

strange spire
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ok

charred wind
ashen schooner
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Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira @charred wind

charred wind
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Thanks i try

ashen schooner
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Make sure you get the Saveas rooted.

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Even better, Saveas and Ira.

novel adder
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khasos needs to be rooted.. otherwise arden dies too lol

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and the root doesnt proc

orchid yew
ashen schooner
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Oh yeah and the axes oops

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Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira @orchid yew

charred wind
slender blade
ashen schooner
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@charred wind Call Shem, Blade Brutus, Eye Lyca, Drape Arden, Grace Tasi

cold lily
ashen schooner
#

@slender blade
Arden
Lucius
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca

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Maybe try swapping Tasi for Nemora @cold lily

slender blade
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@ashen schooner thanks, iโ€™ll try it :)

cold lily
#

Same position?

ashen schooner
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Yes @cold lily Just swap heroes and test

slender blade
#

Lucius just dies instantly

orchid yew
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@ashen schooner everyone dies except shem in 5 seconds, then my shem in lock cc and they kill them in 0,5 secs.๐Ÿ˜…

ashen schooner
#

@slender blade
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
Lucius
Tasi

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Oops

charred wind
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@ashen schooner tasi dies to fast :/

slender blade
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@ashen schooner thanks :)

rugged orbit
#

@slender blade try
Arden
Lyca
Nem
Luci
Shem
Aim is to just charm ferael and let him kill his own team

cold lily
ashen schooner
#

@orchid yew Take my same lineup and replace Nemora with Tasi

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@charred wind Do you let it play out? Sometimes it's okay if she dies.

slender blade
#

@rugged orbit thank you ^^ i hope it works eventually

charred wind
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@ashen schooner yes but all dies there shem can use there ulti but she is the last hero and get attacked from all

ashen schooner
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Mmm okay.. try Blade Brutus, Call Tasi, Eye Lyca, Drape Shemira, Grace Arden @charred wind

orchid yew
#

@ashen schooner well guess I need more faction gears or smh, absolutely no way... the annoying part is, my guild mates did this lvl with lower ascended heroes..

novel adder
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@orchid yew id try
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
this stage can be done with many formations.. you would be rolling for different rng's but its all doable.. its not really gear.. just rng.. with lyca frontline u are hoping for her to dodge.. charming estrilda is nice.. where tasi teleports too matters a lot.. all these things.. guildmate being able to pass is sort of proof its doable.

charred wind
#

@ashen schooner worked thank you very much :)

ashen schooner
#

Congrats BRUHtus

frank moss
indigo jolt
novel adder
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@frank moss yeah i probably ran the same thing but swap in estrilda for brutus.. or arden/tasi.. depends.. though i definitely did it with shemira 240.. sig was just out that time.. i dont think i had sig unlocked for anyone coz i was monitoring the emblem income.
Can be done in different ways but in this one you are rng-ing for nemora to charm arden.. then arden roots kaz.. estrilda's use is to pump energy and buff..

frank moss
#

ill try out the line up @indigo jolt , seems my shem just keeps dying in 3 hits to kaz

indigo jolt
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@frank moss I believe i just retried till Kaz didn't interrupt Shem, then was dependent on nem charm target.

topaz eagle
novel adder
#

@topaz eagle read jid's case.. its the same

frank moss
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read above @topaz eagle lmao..

novel adder
#

ya'll stage buddies can share notes

vernal berry
charred wind
#

Wow the next lvl is even hard like the boss lvl before...

small acorn
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@vernal berry you should know what to do by now

vernal berry
#

This is imossibleeeeee

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Somebody help

small acorn
#

@vernal berry if enemy arden beats your nem, then put arden in and see if ypu can root quicker

orchid yew
#

thx guys for the tips

novel adder
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@vernal berry
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Gameplan is keep seirus charmed forever.. will take a great bit of rng.. but this formation should do it. you can try lucius instead if he can survive to ult.

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but with crystal level 200.. i think you will find a wall too hard at some point.. so dont have to be so hasty..

rotund wharf
#

Any ideas?

novel adder
#

@rotund wharf is that 21-50? scroll up and read some of the responses to Jid's stage.. its the same one

rotund wharf
#

its 21-52

novel adder
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ahh yes 21-52.. yeah scrollup a few posts

rotund wharf
#

cool ty

vernal berry
pale kettle
#

Please help me ๐Ÿ™

night lintel
sacred badge
#

Gezhul works great as frontline tank. At your level, Ogi and Ulmus both can be great in front line. But only Gezhul scales better for mid / late game.

night lintel
#

Dope, thanks a lot

orchid egret
fierce kayak
#

@orchid egret tasi baits right? Try:
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora

Shemira blade/eye, tasi call, lyca grace

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@night lintel actually imo.. Ulums only shines late game. Golus is a better tank for you atm. Overlevel your carry. Savaes carry, and use Arden imo. More info refer to my pinned at #classic-questions.

Meanwhile try:
Savaes 120
Estrilda
Belinda
Golus
Raine/Roslaine/arden/nemora

toxic solstice
#

I've always wondered, and I know it depends on enemi team comp of course, but what would be the "general dream comp" for every faction ? Celestial heros included ofc. I'm curious to read opinions on that

random verge
broken egret
wicked pelican
orchid egret
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It worked, thx @fierce kayak

fierce kayak
#

@orchid egret ๐Ÿ‘Œ gratz

past yacht
clear saddle
#

@wicked pelican who does silvina jump? if its tasi you can run:

Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden

if its arden, swap their positions. If they get killed by vurk, put them middle

broken egret
alpine jolt
warped delta
#

the brutus hits the hardest

wicked pelican
#

@clear saddle silvina jumps on arden and usually one shots him. she jumps on tasi if i use the merc nemora

night lintel
#

@fierce kayak thanks!

wide orbit
#

I can ascend either Isabella or Grezhul to legendary if needed

small pumice
#

Frontline Shemira instead of Grezhul and that should be it unless she's not strong enough, though she's M+ so you should be fine

wide orbit
#

I tried it, he gets controlled a lot

bitter temple
#

What relic does shem have

wide orbit
#

She can't even ulti once

small pumice
#

Have you got Blade or Call on her?

wide orbit
#

Got blade

small pumice
#

Is Shem the hero you focused on most, or haven't you focused on building her up as much as other heroes?

wide orbit
#

In terms of equipment

small pumice
#

And ascending etc

wide orbit
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Nah, I ascended her like 2 weeks ago, I was focusing most on Belinda and Lucius, now I am focusing on her

small pumice
#

I see, mine's been my carry since day 1 so she's 3 stars LV 220 whilst my other mains aka Lucius, Belinda, Brutus and Nara are all M+ or Ascended 180 or 200. You may want to reset one of your heroes and stack some extra XP on her to get her even to 201 for the stat and skill bonus and she should be able to tank frontline just fine.

pale kettle
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@ashen schooner yes it worked tysm

wide orbit
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I only did upgrade my main team

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I can ascend either grezhul or isabella

small pumice
#

Don't spread out levels amongst other characters. Overlevel your Shem and leave the others at 161 if you have the dust, or just 160

wide orbit
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Aight gonna try it

small pumice
wide orbit
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She's level 194 rn

small pumice
#

194 after you reset the others and got them to 160/161?

wide orbit
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Should I ascend grezhul or isabella?

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Yeah, was only lucius that was level 173, the other ones were already level 160/161

small pumice
#

Oh yeah I see there, so you may not be able to beat it today but definitely once she's 200/201 you will. And if you're only going to legendary it doesn't make much difference so just choose whichever one you like since they both only really get good nearer the endgame

wide orbit
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I saw grezhul ascended and he looked a beast, never saw isabella that higher

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Managed to do it

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I put her in the back behind grezhul and equiped dura's eye on her

pale kettle
wide orbit
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Use faction advantage at you advantage, lightbearer focused team

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Like, Brutus front top, Lucius front bottom, rosaline bottom supporting lucius, fawkes back middle and estrilda back top

pale kettle
#

Thx

wide orbit
#

Have u done it?

ember bane
pale kettle
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Yes ty โ™ฅ๏ธ

steel moat
broken egret
#

@steel moat do you have a screenshot for 20-23 by any chance?

ember bane
shrewd depot
steel moat
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@broken egret I don't believe i do but if you send the stage and your heroes i can probably remember what i used there

@ember bane sorry I don't have a screen ulricry but I remember using something like your setup with lyca in the frontline to beat it

broken egret
steel moat
#

@shrewd depot do you have rosaline? Because you could run a team with shemira, lucius, baden, belinda, and rosaline, but if you don't have her nemora works too

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Ahh i think you'll have to get shemira to 220 but that setup looks pretty good, can i ask who tasi banishes?

broken egret
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banish on brut

steel moat
#

I think it could be a leveling issue then, ch 20 is definitely beatable with 180 crystal but i think it needs close to 220 shem

ember bane
shrewd depot
#

@steel moat I have Rosaline, but sheโ€™s only E. I usually use that exact team you said but E Rowan instead of Rosaline. Think sheโ€™s better?

steel moat
#

I believe she would be better because rowan's ult is cc while soren is cc immune, but assuming shemira is your highest rosaline's ult will give her enough energy to ult again

@ember bane who does tasi banish?

ember bane
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@steel moat tasi goes for Arden and Silvana jumps Tasi 1 shot

steel moat
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In that case i think it would be better to move nemora straight across from enemy nemora so that she can charm her, who will in turn charm another enemy. Does tasi ever get to teleport away alive when silvina doesn't crit on the first strike?

ember bane
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@steel moat yes sometimes tasi survives

nimble dune
#

Has anyone beat 20-52? If so, what lineup did you use?

steel moat
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@ember bane it will be hard to clear ch 21 without 240 shemira, but if tasi can survive then that setup is definitely worth running more times

@nimble dune can you send the stage lineup and your full hero list? Thanks!

nimble dune
steel moat
vital wing
nimble dune
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@steel moat thanks, Iโ€™ll give it a shot.

steel moat
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@vital wing

Lyca
Shemira
Arden (root tasi and nemora)
Lucius
Tasi

It's totally normal to be stuck on solar plane because the bosses are cc immune, I couldn't beat it until i had 240 shemira and 200 crystal tasi

vital wing
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Okay i'll try this setup, i think it would be hard with tasi only being e+ but i'll tell you, thanks @steel moat

steel moat
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If you have her geared well and with dura's call it shouldn't be a big problem since tasi is only really used for her utility, she just has to banish and live until ult

vital wing
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Welp @steel moat it doesn't work in any way, even with full mythic tasi and dura's call...

steel moat
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Is the problem that tasi is dying too fast or that shemira can't get an ult off?

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@knotty ice try

Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Saveas
Estrilda

vital wing
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It's just that i'm not dealing enough damage and dreaf always kills my backline... also nemora is using his healing everytime

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During on of my battle Shemira was able to do like 2 or 3 ult and Tasi 2 as well and i couldn't beat it so i think i'm just lacking damage

knotty ice
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@steel moat it worked, thanks

sly shadow
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Lmao failed but still seeable so

lusty sandal
#

11-33 is so freaking tough for me

sly shadow
#

I hate hypogean mages dammit

lusty sandal
#

if anybody knows a strategy I am willing to try โค much love

ember bane
steel moat
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@vital wing how about switching lucius for brutus? Not sure how just legendary brutus will do but he should have a higher damage output. To kill ulmus faster, put lyca behind him and switch tasi to be behind golus

lusty sandal
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Araxis i would try to encorporate fawkes

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Can he remove silvina? Im sure she is giving your mages trouble

vital wing
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@steel moat well i'm not sure about brutus cause he is freaking weak in L, and his damages aren't enough to kill ulmus... maybe i just need to wait until i can ascend him to M as well as tasi

proper arrow
lusty sandal
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Devilness dont use hogan, use shemira or estrilda and use athalia if they have one good strong carry. Place athalia on the opposite spot and she will lock them down for a few seconds

orchid egret
round orbit
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@devout idol Tried using nemora to charm the ferael, so he stuns his team?

ivory swan
dark kayak
clear saddle
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@dark kayak You need to put your saveas bottom and kill vedan first

haughty tide
sweet pasture
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@dark kayak try Brutus saveas frontline, swap out Lucius for Arden

dark kayak
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Hmmm those arenโ€™t working. Vedan is getting his ult off too fast, also my arden is too weak i believe

cloud ermine
pale kettle
#

New player here. Can someone help me on which heroes to focus and for what to look.

haughty tide
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@pale kettle go to questions not lineup

dark kayak
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Vedans ult melts in the beginning and then isabella finishes off saveas and tasi before i can get more damage off

sweet pasture
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@dark kayak he should be fine. I just beat that stage recently with a 120 Arden

dark kayak
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So you think saveas in the front, no lucius, arden in the back?

dark kayak
fierce kayak
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@sly shadow bro.. try Brutus over Estrilda. And lyca over tasi. Nemora you can try to charm estrilda or Bell

sly shadow
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Bel?

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Ooh isabella

orchid egret
fierce kayak
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@sly shadow ya isabella

copper moon
fierce kayak
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@sly shadow else try:
Arden
Brutus
Eorinn
Savaes
Nemora

sly shadow
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That damn mirael

fierce kayak
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@sly shadow if she is the threat.. then try Nemora charm her

ionic quest
astral pivot
sly shadow
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@fierce kayak I did it cause of you telling me to use lyca so it hastened my team before the cc was interrupted

fierce kayak
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@sly shadow so you passed? Gratz buddy

vernal quail
sweet pasture
#

@dark kayak switch sav and Brutus, keep trying until you get good roots rng

copper moon
vernal quail
#

Alright, I'll mash that a few times. Thanks.

copper moon
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@random verge
Try

Rowan
---- Shemira
Lyca
---- Brutus
Tasi/Arden

vernal quail
#

Lucius was getting melted at the start of the battle every attempt, so I swapped him back out for Brutus, who seems to be doing very slightly better, but I'm still not having much luck. I'll keep mashing with this to see if I get better RNG at some point, though.

fallen hound
frigid spruce
midnight spade
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@frigid spruce bruh how did u pass 18-32

ashen schooner
#

@fallen hound Can I see your heroes?

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@frigid spruce
Arden
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi

frigid spruce
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@midnight spade believe i did shemira/brutus

lyca/arden/tasi

midnight spade
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who did you let sivlina jump on

frigid spruce
#

tasi

midnight spade
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so you did this
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

frigid spruce
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i believe that's what did it. it was couple days ago

midnight spade
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I can send u a pic of the stage if that helps u lol

frigid spruce
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when theres a silv i always have her go for tasi

ember bane
#

@copper moon don't have Rowan and how to use Artifacts

vernal loom
midnight spade
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@frigid spruce What artifacts did u have on who?

frigid spruce
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@ashen schooner thanks i've tried that setup, i'll keep trying it see if i get good rng

tall narwhal
frigid spruce
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@midnight spade i pretty much always have blade on shem, call on tasi, chaliceor drape on on brutus, arden think i just threw the shield one on

ashen schooner
#

Swap Rosaline and Arden

karmic summit
tall narwhal
#

@ashen schooner for who

ashen schooner
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No no, swap their placements.

karmic summit
#

I think he means positions

tall narwhal
#

Oh

ashen schooner
#

Hmm.. @karmic summit Tried changing Tasi to Thane just to test 5-man faction bonus?

karmic summit
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Iโ€™ll try that now

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I manage to kill vegan which is one major part of the fight

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Just need a solution for nemora now

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Put my artifact on estrilda so she can stay alive and ult nemora ^^ problem solved

ashen schooner
#

Congrats!

ember bane
ashen schooner
#

@cyan pike Maybe try
Nara/Athalia
Thoran
Kelthur/Nara
Shemira
Athalia/Kelthur

cyan pike
#

Nope

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Been stuck on it for 2 days

ashen schooner
#

@ember bane Have Arden?

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Mmm.
Kelthur
Shemira
Athalia
Nara
Thoran @cyan pike

fallen hound
orchid egret
ashen schooner
#

Lyca
Brutus
Shemira
Lucius
Nemora @fallen hound

fallen hound
#

Ty , will try!

ashen schooner
#

Can also try
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira

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Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shemira @orchid egret

orchid egret
#

Okay thanks @ashen schooner

balmy hinge
cyan pike
balmy hinge
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Hm

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@cyan pike make ur saves lvl 100

#

Saveas*

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Wait

tepid current
balmy hinge
#

@tepid current use mauler heroes

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There more effective

fallen hound
ashen schooner
#

@fallen hound Arden?

fallen hound
#

Yes I have him , to replace Nemora?

ashen schooner
#

Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Nemora @fallen hound

balmy hinge
#

Whats bear hero called again

ashen schooner
#

Warek?

balmy hinge
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Ye

fallen hound
ashen schooner
#

You passed already?

fallen hound
#

Si

ashen schooner
#

Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Nemora

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Or...
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca

tepid current
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U want me to use mauler heroes? @balmy hinge lol my mauler heroes r all E+

balmy hinge
#

Oh Oof

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Uhh lets see

fallen hound
#

Damn those roots

#

Shemira can't even ult

ashen schooner
#

Mmm does your Arden beat theirs?

tepid current
#

U probably want to swap shemira and Brutus @fallen hound

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I got past that lvl with a weaker team than you. You just need arden to move first so try putting call and ur best mythic boots on him @fallen hound

fallen hound
#

Tried everything I think I'm gonna be stuck here for awhile @tepid current

ashen schooner
tepid current
#

Does ur shemira have full M gear? @fallen hound

balmy hinge
haughty comet
#

Lucius/Hogan/Saveas/Athalia/Arden

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Or Brutus instead of Hogan, if you want.

pale kettle
#

lucius saveas fawkes hogan thoran

small pumice
#

Brutus, Shemira, Lucius, Athalia, Rosa

tepid current
#

Saveas arden Brutus for sure. Either hogan or lucius. Do you have any other mages for backline? Nemora lyca or tasi maybe?

balmy hinge
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In order?

fallen hound
#

unfortunately she's missing one @tepid current

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the top right one

tepid current
#

Then wait till you see that in guild store and buy that. Don't buy anything else @fallen hound

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Hmm imo @balmy hinge i would use saveas Brutus arden hogan fawkes for now

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But other ppl had different opinions

balmy hinge
#

Welp i still got defeated

#

Sad

tepid current
#

Make sure Sav is behind Brutus so he gets the bonus of Brutus roar.

balmy hinge
#

Ima just wait until i can lvl up my heroes

final lagoon
tepid current
#

Try resetting hogan to lvl Sav to 120 @balmy hinge then u cna use thoran instead of hogan

final lagoon
#

Any suggestions?

balmy hinge
#

K

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@tepid current ye i cant do that ;-;

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Nvm i did that

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Alr saveas is lvl 120

indigo jolt
#

@final lagoon Stage no.?

noble temple
shell hamlet
final lagoon
#

@indigo jolt 21-41

indigo jolt
final lagoon
#

I pray for a good tasi and brutus every day ;-;

final lagoon
#

@indigo jolt but ๐Ÿ™

indigo jolt
#

@sharp escarp
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

balmy hinge
#

I cant do it

#

7-40

shell hamlet
#

@indigo jolt what about me ? ๐Ÿฅบ

balmy hinge
indigo jolt
#

@shell hamlet
Tasi/Athalia
Brutus
Lyca
Sav
Arden

sharp escarp
#

@indigo jolt nop, they kinda get oneshotted

pale kettle
indigo jolt
#

@sharp escarp Even When arden roots nem/ogi?

shell hamlet
#

ty

sharp escarp
#

@indigo jolt Arden dies in like 2 seconds lol

balmy hinge
#

@pale kettle you need some graveborn hereos cause lightbeards are affected by graveborns

indigo jolt
#

@pale kettle If anyone Rosalina, but she is probably better.
You also want Lucius to be the tank near Rowan, toget earlier Shield.
Overlevel Belinda more.

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@sharp escarp To khasos axe? is he not banished?

balmy hinge
sharp escarp
#

@indigo jolt ok won with
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Luca
Shemira

indigo jolt
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@balmy hinge Who does Fawkes coffin?

balmy hinge
#

Lemme see

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Beli @indigo jolt

random verge
#

@copper moon sorry went out for a few hours, your suggestion worked 1st try though lol

balmy hinge
#

Uh @indigo jolt

indigo jolt
#

?

copper moon
#

@balmy hinge
Try

Saveas
---- Hogan
Fawkes
---- Lucius
Athalia

pale kettle
#

Can you help me pleaaase ๐Ÿ™

balmy hinge
#

FINNALY won god that took a hour almost 2

copper moon
#

@pale kettle
Try

Gwyneth
---- Lucius
Rosaline
---- Brutus
Fawkes

pale kettle
#

Ok i try

copper moon
#

@pale kettle also stop making Legendaries unless they are Fodder or you have a 2nd E+ copy

pale kettle
#

Ty โ™ฅ๏ธ

#

again blocked xD
Help please

idle oriole
#

Who does Fawkes banish? @pale kettle

pale kettle
#

Estrilda

copper moon
#

@pale kettle
Try

Arden
---- Brutus
Fawkes
---- Lucius
Gwyneth

pale kettle
#

it's difficult this fight

random verge
copper moon
#

@pale kettle
Try

Fawkes
---- Brutus
Lucius
---- Gwyneth
Rosaline

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@random verge

Tasi
---- Brutus
Lyca
---- Shemira
Arden/Nemora

random verge
#

@copper moon shem gets insta wrecked and arden/nem don't even get off a vine or charm

copper moon
#

@random verge
Try

Shemira
---- Brutus
Arden/Tasi
---- Lyca
Tasi/Arden

random verge
#

I will try that a few dozen times lol

copper moon
#

Aalso put better boots on Arden

random verge
#

@copper moon gave arden and tasi L+ 5* boots and hit start about 30 times, arden never vined but tasi did banish

copper moon
#

@random verge
Try

Tasi
---- Lyca
Arden
---- Brutus
Shemira

Arden should root in this setup

random verge
#

I hope he does lol only way I've gotten roots so far is charming the enemy Arden

barren fractal
#

Should I level up the desert fury and replace one

copper moon
#

@barren fractal just keep leveling up

barren fractal
#

Stuck at 5-12 ๐Ÿ‘Ž

copper moon
#

@barren fractal you're early on so your main walls are just going to be lack of levels on your heroes

copper moon
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@random verge
Try

Tasi
---- Shemira
Nemora/Athalia
---- Brutus
Lyca

karmic summit
random verge
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@copper moon I'm just gonna give it a break lol I'll just level my brutus some more and try to get him to A

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Thanks for the help though

pale kettle
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Help please ๐Ÿ™ (again ๐Ÿ˜‚)

haughty comet
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Arden instead of Safiya. Try to root Mirael. (Slot 5)

muted idol
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(Niru is Elite+ so I am keeping him)

midnight crag
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@muted idol try and get saveas up, he is very good carry till mid game

gusty arrow
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Whats the wrizz meta team?

lethal rivet
ashen schooner
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@lethal rivet If Silvina jumps to Arden, make sure she jumps on Tasi.

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@pale kettle I'd do
Shemira
Thoran
Safiya
Brutus
Saveas

indigo jolt
golden bluff
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Hey y'all, hope someone can help! I need to beat 5-40, sending a screenshot in a sec

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Here's the small handful of guys and gals I've got, I can get a full team of 5 up to mid 60s, but obv higher if I just go with a 4 or 3 hero Powerteam ๐Ÿค”

ashen schooner
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I would say level up Saveas, Arden, Brutus, Nemora, and either Hogan or Orthros

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Then do
Nemora
Hogan/Orthros
Arden
Brutus
Saveas

astral pivot
ashen schooner
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@grave vine I would recommend to you to add Nemora onto your Crystal as soon as you can.