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@ashen schooner didn't work lasted 3 seconds
Cant even kill one, i guess ill need to wait and level up heroes. Which one should i focus on bringing 160 first? Or should i try to lvl them up all at the same time?
What should my campaign team be?
I just started/returned to the game on stage 5-20 and stuck, any advice on what I should be building to clear faster?
@pseudo hill what stage are u at ?
5-32
13-14 help please
Rng for the win
Taking down a team twice my rating. ๐
brutus is putting in work but it weird seeing the tank die every battle so quickly
Any advice on 23-18?๐ค๐ค
@clear saddle Floor 239 need line-up
@ember bane Arden middle, need him to root the arden top, use tasi instead of nemora
Then pray to rngesus
Iโm stuck ๐
@clear saddle do mine itโs above arx
Would it be worth swapping to nemora tasi lyca shem Belinda? Currently using shem belinda lucius fareal?
@hidden stone You need a carry levelled up to progress further i think. You close to getting shem/belinda to M/M+?
@clear saddle any suggestion on this one? Getting washed
@strange bobcat who tanks the silvina?
Shem
So she jumps your tasi?
@clear saddle Iโm close to shemira. Being mythic no where close with Belinda
@strange bobcat You need an arden, preferably with higher defense than tasi
Iโm getting no grave fodder I havenโt gotten a rare graveborn in 2 -3 days
@hidden stone Yeah, i think you need to wait for shem to progress more steadily
Yeah Lyca is a filler currently.
I have L rosaline and E Athalia, other than that Iโm building Arden back up
@clear saddle is not the damage tho itโs more of hendrik not pulling his weight he gets killed so early
Hendrik is a pretty bad tank in PvE so thats not surprising
Yeah Ik I wish I had a better tank
She canโt tank tho
Need a fresh look
I need a second tank on that level cause so much damage gets done shemira canโt frontline
why is my nemora with +4 mythic boots and 1* call still charming after arden root?
@pale kettle you clear it yet?
Saw you needed help with 27, whatโs 30?
@clear saddle I used rowan lyca fawkes lucius and shemira and it worked
I just needed more shields from Lucius
@rocky crescent this is 20-30. Thought my shem might be too under leveled
@ancient oasis why don't use Tasi as bait?
@fierce kayakshe falls too quickly
I used nemora where lyca was and athalia where you have Arden , haste trinket on tasi
That was for @pale kettle
@rocky crescent but do you think my shem is under leveled?
@ancient oasis she just need to survive the first hit and tele away.. then keep trying till RNG makes her ulti while Shem Ulti is ongoing.
If she can't even survive first hit.. I will adjust gear and use Arden to suicide bait becos I need tasi with Shemira more than Arden.
@pale kettle has a guild mate do it with 200, I burnt through it once I got my 240
aight gonna try that now. thanks!!
@fierce kayakmay you draw a fm
@ancient oasis Nemora remain middle back to charm farael
id really like to pass this before i go to sleep any insight would be appreciated
@lethal rivet try use lyca tank for Shemira or Brutus.
@ancient oasis shemira, Brutus / Belinda , Rowan, rose behind Brutus
@fierce kayak tried she just gets punted immediately
@lethal rivet you try using Arden besides lyca, for 3 different ccs? Or athalia instead of lyca in back middle?
neither my arden or my nemora can get cc off before the enemy arden even though everyone tells me i should have enough haste
@lethal rivet Erm.. try a few more times for her RNG dodge. Also.. you must find a way not to get root too. Can use Athalia counter arden if you have her.
Try Arden, athalia, nemora in that order. Athalia should buy you a couple of seconds for Arden to get roots . Or put lyca in instead of nemora
@lofty depot
@lofty depot Brutus, shemira, rain or potion chick, athalia and Belinda begins shemira for me through those stages. Shemira will be banished and Belinda will rip into him
Ok will try thanks @indigo jolt @rocky crescent
Guy above gave a line up as well to try
Yes I will try both!
@rocky crescent arden keeps getting interupted before he can root if i use lyca :c
FYI , I hated chapter 20
Any suggestions on 20-12?
Stuck here for a while, any tips welcome
@nimble dune You are using belinda carry for now yeah? Are you close to reaching either Shem or Belinda A? because i think you might run into some issues later on in terms of levels
@nimble dune Alright, if you're going to run shem carry, your best bet is probably:
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Who gets banished by tasi?
One of them have been banished, they are being prevented from using ULT
this lineup was able to get close once out of 20 mins of retries 
Iโm going to try that with Arden Nemora, Brutus, Shem and Tasi
my nemora stays alive reliably till the end but shes not impactful enough and tasi isnt able to get her ult
oof just got one where tasi and shem ulted but it still wasnt enough :c
@lethal rivet either nemora swap with tasi or maybe tasi back top, lyca back bot might be better?
Call already on tasi right? Shem blade?
@fierce kayak yep call tasi shem blade, nemora swap gets melted and lyca isnt enough, need the charm to survive the niru
I don't know if it works at your chapter but for me it helped to sometimes put tasi in front to tank one hit to get her ult
Tasi works against Ulums. Against Ogi I yet to try before.. normally I use lyca against ogi
@visual quiver ogi and shem melt her in a millisecond
and against niru? or however the scythe dude is called? so tasi frontline and shemira back
melted as well
Post your heroes for us too if you donโt mind
K
can u help me matt
@worn dirge what ya need help with?
line up
@devout roost
Areden
Shemira
Tasi
Grezhul
Nemora
Be sure you take off all Equipments from Nemora so Silvina can Jump on her
You really want silvina jumping tasi unless tasi canโt take the hit
Ok
Need help with this stage, im out of ideas
@past yacht
Saveas
Shemira
Lyca
Hogan
Nemora
@worn dirge 1 to 5: Hogan Thoran Saveas Belinda raine. Oeverlevel Savaes. Read my pinned at #classic-questions top right.
I wish I had fodder to make my saveas L
You will make it. its not hard
i hate niru so much
wait. so i use a rainbow team?
Saveas drops like a fly
@past yacht place Arden crystal for his 2 roots disable. Try 1 to 5: Savaes Hogan Arden Lyca nemora
if my shem had healed a second sooner i might have gotten it 
@lethal rivet is that 20-8?
@worn dirge you have 3 LB. Good enough
@pallid lake yup
@fierce kayak so what i do i leave the 4 other characters lvl at?
Fuck yeah, made it @fierce kayak Thanks!
@worn dirge reset mirael ira and the green spear guy. Remove skreg and LB arrow girl and place Arden and hogan
@past yacht Gratz mate. Have fun.
Need help on 19-6
@pallid lake @pale kettle Well I beat the stage
@brittle maple try 1 to 5:
Shemira Lyca Tasi Arden nemora
@devout roost Gz
But now I have some more bullshit
@devout roost post it haha
Would beating this just be an issue of leveling my units?
@pallid lake
almost an hour of retries and ive gotten close a total of once 
@devout roost try swapping tasi and arden and see how that works
Okie
@fierce kayak took a couple resets but it worked. Thanks
@lethal rivet do you have lyca and arden?
@pseudo hill
Belinda
Hogan
Gwyneth
Brutus
Saveas
@brittle maple Gratz. That's what I usually use against Wilders team.
@pallid lake yeah ive tried every variation using them for multiple hours...this line up has gotten me way closer
@pale kettle it worked!
@pseudo hillGz
Thank you
No1 willing to give a try for me
@lethal rivet try lyca instead of brutus and swap tasi and nemora, give it some tries and lmk how it works out
Goal is lyca will tank ogi for a second and nemora should hopefully charm shem, unless tasi banishes shem which nemora should charm ogi which is fine too, athalia takes out arden and shem should be fine to tank niru
@pale kettle the team beat the last stage of the chapter also
Hello any ideas to beat this boss lvl?
@fierce kayak my saveas still died
@pseudo hill Glad to hear that
@worn dirge line-up have to adjust accordingly to stage enemy. And Savaes has to be overlevel 20 to 40 levels ahead of others
Need help for chapter 6
Any1?
@pallid lake guess what I have now? EVEN MORE BULLSHIT
@paper heath Thats hard without Lyca
@pale kettle
@paper heath
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Gorvo
Nemora
Try is multiple times and may the rng Be with you
Don't forget to put on Gorvo the best Equipment you have since he needs to resist one hit at least. same for the others
Any lineup ... Im stuck against maulers rn..
I am hanging up on 6-16. Anything I can do or just wait for xp and pulls?
@pallid lake had one close one but for the most part tasi isnt getting enough energy fast enough
I have no idea how Sirius works
@worn dirge
Sav
Grezhul/thoran
Belinda
Hogan
Raine
@lethal rivet call on tasi I assume? Itโs probably just going to take a lot of rng if itโs got you close at least,
im using that right now
Hi Everyone,please be reminded to post both stage and roster together for others to know your options. G luck
@pallid lake yeah call and mythic boots on tasi, ill give it a bit longer
@worn dirge position is different my friend
@lethal rivet if it doesnโt work after some tries come back and weโll try to figure something out, I know I had a lot of stages in ch20 where I just had to either rng the hell out of it or merc a brutus, and considering you arenโt using brutus this lineup currently itโs likely just bad rng so far.
@worn dirge Else wait for last hero goes 81.. and use Arden at 81 for his 2 roots
who should i replace arden with
An lineup help... Iwas stuck at ch12 and got in 1 try through ch13, now im stuck at ch14
Need help with 13-14. Enemy back like just decimates my back line.
omg finally cleared
I would try to use lyca instead of arden
@pale kettle thanks Man
Should I combine or wait for one more vedan so I have a shemira left over
@acoustic pecan Keep shemira gosh she is kind of OP
@pale kettle
Risaline
Shemira
Rowan
Sirius
Fawkes
Im not sure if it works
@pale kettle ill try
@paper heath Youre welcome
yeah i wanna make her legendary but i think waiting for one more to combine and not using 2 shemira might be better
Only use 1 shemira when u need it @acoustic pecan
@acoustic pecan You kan make her ascended Immediately after making her M+
Why woukd you acend 2 shemira 
When u can choose free and only faction is important then use the faction
no i mean that
@acoustic pecan #classic-questions plz
Only thing i changed was that i changed sirius and shemira c:
Gz.
dont think ya understood what i was saying ๐
@pallid lake was a real ass clencher but i finally got it! 
@acoustic pecan Give love to shemira and she will pay you off
Awesome! Get used to that in this chapter itโs gonna be very common to have to rng it that much 
got 3 emblems but no gear 
Rip
@pale kettle Shemira 1st postion with Rosaline behind her, Brutus next to Shemira and fawkes behind brutus + Lucius in the middle should clear this level. Also focus on leveling brutus to 160
Need help
Any tips on how I can beat this?
@pseudo hill how about putting hougan on the 2., Brutus on 1. And saveas in the middle?
Well now im stuck there xD ahahah
Could use an assist for this map & focus going forward in general! Thanks
Suggestions please
@pseudo hill You need CC heroes like Tasi and Arden to advance in higher stages with that power. Anyway Change change places of Brutus with
Hogan and Saveas with Belinda
@pale kettle I have Tasi and Arden
@pseudo hill Arden can be useful after level 81. As for Tasi You can replace her with Saveas or belinda
Hello I'm very new to the game and I feel level locked I can't get past the campaign level 5-24 and I can't get any further on the kings tower 56. Am I levelimg the right guys?
Help...
@craggy talon Maybe
Tasi
Shemria
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
This works for the most of players
@coarse light Can you put heroes in your Crystal?
24 hours from now XD i did not understand and pulled them out XD
@pale kettle Do you have arden and Lyca?
@pale kettle why I cant see Arden there ๐ค
Cuz i dont have him, for the most part i ran lightbringer...
@coarse lightJust change the place of shemira with Khasos
Send help, hardstuck
Any tips?
Any suggestions for a team to get me through stages or lab?
@civic canopy Yes. When Vurk is like that. Never put Arden in Middle
@civic canopy
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
This is just my opinion but this is what I would try
Vedan again :/
@sullen prairie
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Grezhul/Lucius
Belinda
@pale kettle
@sullen prairie Hmm. no other ideas. maybe would use nemora to charm or Lyca to boost
The Nemora is weak. Lyca can be tried.
Is there anything I can do other than AFK and grjnd for dust?
Enemy Silvina melts EVERY int-based hero I try (my Shem lasts less than five seconds), so in desperation I went all fighter and still lost badly.
Stuck in this stage, team wiped before they can do anything
the closest i've been is wiping front line, that mage in middle does too much dmg.
@umbral badger either khasos rng with his throwing axe or use tasi with defense dura.
@sleek portal I'll try that. Thanks!
Help
Any help appreciated
@violet pecan always charm the ferael
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Brut
Llyca
Probably need to make sure shem doesn't get chunked too much with a combination of arden roots and dodges.
@final star
No M+ Lucius dang
Stuck a bit on 16-4 any advice for how to change it up?
Thanks! Two runs and made it through!
@pale kettle even with kaz getting rooted and charmed Shem gets melted
@craggy talon Hmm. Maybe by trying similar metas teams and by trying it over and over again you may pass it
Yea, Iโve come close and may just have to wait to get Shem over 200
Any tips on beating this?
Pls help me to find the right line up
Help? 18-32
@sharp escarp make silv dash to tasi by lowerering her def, should be free win after that
@novel adder
@violet pecan nice ๐
@pseudo hill lineup looks alright
I probably would swap belinda and saveas position.. i think you need to focus on deleting the weaker enemies first. Not sure what other units u have but yeah looks alright.If it doesnt work after some good amount of tries.. probably needs a bit of levels.
@charred wind try
Nemora/Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Shem
Arden
@sharp escarp lineup looks okay if silvina targets tasi.. just needs some rng.. you can try
Arden
Estrilda
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Estrilda disrupts silvina's jump damage.. but i think u might lose too much damage since ur brutus is 200.
@pseudo hill swap saveas top. generally you want saveas to kill off priority targets. If that takes too long you make him target the area where he can kill as many easier to kill enemies as fast as possible.. in this case, brutus immunity will cap your damage for a while.. so u'd wanna avoid that.. let him target ankhira first.
@west iron i think
Arden
Brut
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
you probably need some lucky dodges by lyca though.
Okay got it thanks
@novel adder I donโt think Iโll be able to do this stage yet
@novel adder thank you it works really fine :)
508 dodge seems insufficient :/
just gotta spam retry more XD
@novel adder the Brutus is just destroying my whole team
Any ideas for floor 290?
Works for two lvl now stuck again xD
brutus is destroying my team too, he's last one standing
Do I have any options to win here? I've tried quite a lot of combinations
help
@past yacht what i did when i got to around your level was cart my over leveled character and even out the levels to around 101 and it carried me through an entire chapter, once the main 5 are all 101 power level again to 120
Please help. Getting completely boned. Thanks for the tip trihard i might try that if things dont pan out
I had attached the wrong screenshot earlier
How can inprove this
May need more cc, can help to swap out Hogan and Belinda for Arden and some other Wilder with cc (like tasi*). Also helps to put saveas behind Brutus as Brutus can debuff enemies.
@past yacht In that specific fight Saveas needs to be placed on top backline spot, because Estrilda will slow him otherwise with her ability. You need to benefit from your strongest hero everytime. You will need Arden, Nemora, Lyca, Saveas and Hogan. Place Hogan in front of Saveas at position 1 and Nemora next to Hogan on 2nd frontline position. Lyca in the middle and Arden last bottom spot. Let me know if that helps
Stuck on 6-35. Golus is just wrecking me.
Anyone know how I can do this? Iโm stuck
Stuck on 9-38
@pale kettle boi show me ur heroes and enemy layout
nah ill just sit here for a month its cool
aight
This is wrecking me hard
Don't even know what to do.
ok boys what do we do (17-40)
@past geode bruh you need to get one more hero to L+ even if it's a fodder one and break that level cap haha
You know what the sad thing is? I had even fodder at level 160 but I "wanted". No, accidentally sacrificed two lightbearers to get mythic rowan. I completely forgot about the fact that they were my crystal level cap holders.
Help. 19-16 hurts
@brittle maple
Try
Shemira
---- Lyca
Tasi
---- Brutus
Rowan
@pale kettle
Try
Lucius
---- Brutus
Arden
---- Shemira
Tasi
Need help please... 17-6
@pale kettle
@sly sparrow
Try
Shemira
---- Lyca
Nemora
---- Brutus
Tasi
Who should Nemora charm? Ogi?
@sly sparrow
Nemora should charm Arden it's a low chance so a crap ton of resets
@pale kettle
Might help to screenshot the stage I have no idea what you're fighting
@pale kettle
Try
Lyca
---- Shemira
Nemora
---- Lucius
Arden
Reset until Nemora charms Fereal
Stuck on 9-38
I too am stuck on 9-38
Been stuck on tower floor 239 for almost 2 weeks. Warek shreds me and idk how to stop him
@upper star
Try
Tasi
---- Brutus
Arden
---- Lucius
Saveas
Take off Tasi's armour so she has less def than Arden
@errant shard
Try
Satrana
---- Gorvo
Raine
---- Lucius
Belinda
Hey guys new player, can I get some general lineup help? Iโm not to sure who I should be using when or where.
Didnโt didnโt work @copper moon
@copper moon also, nenora just cant cgarm him and everyone dies before ult
@sly sparrow try better shoes on Nemora and Call if you have it
Help please.
I cant get through this one :(
Help please? 9-39
@upper star try Saveas Vedan front and Arden Lyca Tasi back
Any suggestions for 11-38?
@kindred basalt what team did you use to beat 11-33 if you don't mind me asking? Stuck on that one currently
I believe, Brutus, Lucius. Tasi, Saveas, and shemira
Hmm maybe I need levels then...thanks!
I think Iโm just underpowered buh any suggestions
11-35
Is there anything I can do here?
If anyone has problems or questions regarding his line-up, you can send me a direct message here in discord. I have some spare time so I'd be happy if I can help you guys. 
Any suggestions? Golus is always a problem because he gets almost no damage and my frontline dies too fast
I tried brutus + tasi frontline, brutus + lyca, sav + brutus. nothing really helps
Need help on 19-24 please
Need help, stuck at 15-36
Halp!
Ideas for team here pls? It's 13-39, I just did all the chapter after changing 1 hero, Belinda with tasi
Or what I should do to complete or in future? Pls @ me if u answer to me
15-40
@pale kettle
Tasi/Lyca
grezhul
Nemora
Shemria
Arden
Be sure that Nemora charms Ferael so retry that iver and over
Any help here? ๐
Ok
@torpid turret
Belinda/Arden
Shemria
Tasi
Brutus
Ulmus
If you have Lyca Put Ulmus in place of Brutus. Take brutus out by adding Lyca in
Hey guys, should I make Gwendolyn or Rowan legendary? (i can only chose one)
What should my campaign team be? @pale kettle
@vagrant goblet
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan/Lyca
Estrilda
Brutsus
@pale kettle
Thank you, I'll give it some tries
@vagrant goblet Wish you luck
Do i ascend Rowan or Gwyneth?
@pale kettle Thanks, I got it working. I exchanged Brutus for Lucius and it worked first try.
@vagrant goblet 3 healers? ๐
@pale kettle What can I say... Shemira is pretty stronk
@pale kettle would you be able to help me out?
@vagrant goblet Okay gz on that
I tried your combination about 10 times no luck, then did a few alterations and ended on Lucius working first try ๐
@pseudo hill Ugh. maybe?
Hello any advice for 21-4 ?
@pseudo hill what was your formation at the camp
@versed canopy i would advise to go for lyca over nara and maybe swap spots of lyca and shem in that case depending if she can survive frontline
that what i did first but tasi banishes shemira so she can't ult
Any advice?
@pale kettle
@cold lily try shemira behind brutus killing vedan before he ults, lyca with Brutus frontline
@versed canopy how about an arden instead of nem in that case and take out nara for lyca so arden roots first?
@versed canopy Will try thanks and also in what situation do I use Nem > Arden?
@cold lily if solution by wylkian doesn't work try this.
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi
If the problem is shem surviving swap positions of lyca shem and arden, so arden middle back shem top back and lyca front
@pseudo hill
Tasi
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Gwyneth/Saveas
@cold lily when enemy has things like arden /fereal to charm or when crystal hits 180 than nem mostly beter than arden but still not 100%
sorry to interrupt, but any ideas?
@pale kettle should I reset my Brutus and put xp in Savaes? Because my Brutus dies very fast
Arden and his triple root can win you fights above chapter 20 so don't sacrifice him too soon
@tiny spoke try something like
Rosa
Lyca
Bel
Brut
Fawkes
Or swap luci in for the lyca there maybe
@pseudo hill hmmm. Just make Brutus 61. Saveas 81, and Maybe arden 81 too? Then Send all others 81
Although you don't need Arden at L+ that badly anymore lower ascension can work as well since he gets 1 hit a lot near chap 21
Even is this chapter20 he hets 1 hit pretty much. Its just that he would have maore haste if he was more ascended
Maybe
@pale kettle do I replace Tasi with Arden then?
Nope blue arden wins as much fights as l+ they just get oneshotted, but sometimes he can manage to root 2 times ans if he does its a win unless your team isnt up to the task
Uhm for me he can take 1 hit from time to time which is quite nice since he gets off extra roots and mine is only L
that worked! tysm @broken egret
Any advice on this one? ๐ฎ (Shem surviving is a problem and if I put Lyca in front she also dies super fast)
@pseudo hill If you have Tasi then yes.
I do have Tasi
@cold lily try this
Nem
Brut
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
Give tasi call and make sure nem charms the arden
@cold lily remember this might take a few times to win even with good charm is rng stage
Lyca and Shem dying kinda fast
Shemira 180 dying fast from ira and ogi 167?. Do you have M gears?
That formation that was given to you normally works against that stage. You Just need to be well geared.
Okay thanks!
@pale kettle itโs not really working
@cold lily ye it's probably gear in that case ye, believe with those levels and just average gear it shouldve worked
25-28 need helps they are wrecking me
@cold lily also its normal for lyca to almost insta die, it's just for the haste she is there and take the toss from ogi so shem doesn't get cc'ed
@pseudo hillwell its not supposed to work just because I say a formation. Maybe other players may have a better strategy that is useful for you.
@vast coral I cant help there. So hight ๐ต
@pseudo hill plaxe the Sav behind the saveas so he hits the unit which is armor reduced. Try it like this
Sav
Brut
Arden
Hogan
Tasi
@broken egret Okay thanks! Would you mind if I add you?
@vast coral maybe charming Sav so he hits his own team and with fereal for shem? I'm just guessing here no where near that end game yet myself
@cold lily add me in game?
On Discord
16-4, trying to not use an overleveled carry on this acct
@cold lily dont think you even have to add me to message me
is this stage beatable with the heroes I have now?
@vernal echoyes
@vernal echo i would say probably yes
been hardstuck here for like 2 days now
@vernal echo any chance you also have an arden which you can put in Crystal? I would take grez out of it for him if needed.
Would also advise to use Sav as carry instead of shem for now, she gets beter than Sav when she is M and lvl 161
@mild gate i did it wilder tower 100 with this team
yeah, i have an lvl 1 epic+ arden and 2 crystal spots that will open in 8 hours
@vernal echo however with units like this now try
Shem
Brut
Nem
Grez
Tasi
@flint cairn Im gonna steal that ๐
@vernal echo for sure put him in there, he's great on a lot of stages. But for now try the setup I sent. If it doesn't work you could reset shem and instead make Sav that high level and put her in the spot shem is in now and shouldn't be all that hard I think
@pale kettle you already at stage 100 wilder?
@broken egret No. But I will be lol.
@broken egret Omg thanks for reminding me that I have wilder floor in tower. Brb
@pale kettle you alrwady cleared mauler 60?
@broken egret No Im gonna do it now. I didn't try it anymore but since I made my crystal 180 that should be easy. Will send you a sc if I manage to beat it
oh nvm. yeah I have beaten it
Oh lol, was that easy? @pale kettle
holy shit finally beat it after like 20 reruns for shem, tasi, and nem to finally all get all their ults off instead of getting 1 shot
Nice
@lofty depot that 20-37?
@lofty depot Try replacing Mehira with Arden, and swapping Shemira and Lyca placement.
Yepp
OK will try! @ashen schooner
@lofty depot could also swap nem to bot for tasi, that way she can charm enemy nem and she charms another enemy. Also who does tasi even banish?
@broken egret I have tried belive me lol.. Shemira of course so it's so fucking hard to get her to ult
Do you happen to have Blade or Call on her as an artifact?
If you want her to ult more frequently, Call is the best way to do so.
Or did you mean my Tasi? If so the top one at the back lol
Yes I have call, but on Tasi
@broken egretHmm. with Crystal 161 yes it was. kinda
@lofty depot kinda meant who does your tasi banish
May be better for you to switch Call to your Shemira.
Just because of all the potential CC from Wilder teams.
@ashen schooner @lofty depot is it possible to charm enemy tasi to make her banish a unit from her own team?
@broken egret I've tried but she banishes before she charms
I don't believe so given her teleportation.
You'd have to be very lucky.
Possibly an Arden root beforehand would give an upperhand.
I don't stand a chance
Ye okay, just wondering
Any ideas?
I put on call on shem instead of blade so she can at least ult before getting fucked by brutus
@broken granite
First:
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Second:
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
@ashen schooner 2nd worked ty
Congrats ^-^
Any help on 11-38? So close to being done lol just canโt seem to pass.
@kindred basalt try
Sav
Brut
Arden
Tasi
Nem
With the hope tasi can live long enough to dash away and for brut/Sav to kill enemy Sav. Also you got a hidden lyca somewhere?
If that doesn't work try
Tasi
Brut
Nem
Sav
Arden
Also who does tasi banish?
Tasi seems to always banish the dwarf fucker if she dosnt I usually get recked
Also no Lyca I have never pulled her sadly
@kindred basalt ye I figured, than second setup might work better than first I think, but give both a few tries and see
Oh just realised arden isn't 141 yet, will be a good powerspike when you get that as well @kindred basalt
@pale kettle forgot to ask about it, but you beat mauler 60 with Crystal just 161??
Still stuck on 18 40, no idea how to beat it
Been stuck in this one for a bit, any suggestions? I could ascend Belinda, but I would lose Hogan when doing to
@serene basin you should use nem to charm enemy arden. Try
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Beur
Tasi
@broken egret Arden still gets his root off first
@broken egret sadly neither of those line ups worked Tasi couldnโt survive line enough same with brut
@serene basin give your best boots to nem and should work i think, you got M boots?
Not sure but I'll try that
Ye believe M boots should be enough, if not 3*M definitely is
Yeah I got it just barely, I had one M boot and it was on shemira
Nice good to hear it worked
Now to figure out who to give the Scrolls to
I'm thinking wilder but I really don't wanna wait 3 days lol, just so I can maybe take tasi to ascended
need help with 21-38, trying to double rng with arden rooting arden and nem charming khasos to kill ulmus but it's not really working out
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Nemora @wise kestrel
lyca in front of ulmus gets my backline hit by his thing though
And that one-shots Arden?
yes
Do you have Tasi @wise kestrel
yes
that's basically what I was running until I found out that charming khasos takes out ulmus fast, but it didn't work out
numisu drops a totem on arden and one shots him ๐ฆ
@flint cairn what i use
Uh,, help- I'm not great at this game skgdlhsfksgk
Need help with 9-20, here's my heroes
@noble sleet whats the actual team formation?
@thorn tapir here
Need some help on 7-40 only lightbringers alt
Sav arden fawkes rowan hendrik @noble sleet try that
Best wilder team? Iโve got crystal spots open
@pale kettle for wilder tower?
@broken egret yea
Iโve also got a lot of wilder fodder, who should I ascend next? Haha
Pretty sure eironn and ulmus are quite good for it, however eironn might not be the best without sig items, I'm not that sure
@pale kettle eironn is a great one and you alrwady got all the copies for him, or lyca is also good, howver she can't go to A yet
He can be good if given the right resources but much better once he has access to a Signature Item.
Mine at L+ can survive a helluva lot of stuff.
What about Kaz?
Is asking for a optimal PoT Team okay here?
Kaz can be pretty good too but may need good equipment to best leverage her dodge
Been trying to clear 'The Divine Realm' so I can get my 4th copy of Shemira, but I can only get like 5 fights in before my main team dies
Still here
Any help please?
Please help
@ancient oasis Could just be underleveled but... I believe I may have told you to try putting Arden in the middle backline?
@sullen surge Do you have an Arden?
@upper star
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Tasi/Lucius
Saveas
@ancient oasis whay I can think of is, will probably take a lot of rng as well but worth a try
Lyca
Shem
Nem
Brut
Tasi
Make sure silv dashes to tasi by making her def the lowest
@broken egretok ty I'll try
@sullen surge can you show all your units?
Can i win this with my current heroes/ levels?
Ey, anybody here?
?
Can I do anything here?
@polar plume Maybe put Arden in Rowan's place, put Lyca in the bottom backline.
Ok
@restive yoke Might be difficult, you can try this a few times.
Mehira
Shemira
Arden
Lucius
Athalia
Lol, Lucius will get two shot
Hey lads, any tips for wrizz/soren lineups? Currently using baden,lucius,shemira,belinda,rosaline on wrizz, testing shits for soren but dont find a really good one
Yeah, I mean, it's always easiest to put a Brutus against a Brutus. Sometimes Shemira in front of him works out okay though.
@restive yoke
@thorn tapir that 20-04?
Si
Pff
Than try this one
RIP, don't think I'm strong enough PepeHands
@broken egret
Nice, gz
I really need athalia to be L+/M she seems to clutch up because i dont have arden
@broken egret Can I do anything here?
Ye athalia is a really good unit, if not one of the best, however she is just hard to upgrade
@restive yoke im not sure if shem survives till her ulti, if not you can put lyca in front of her to tank some hits. Other than that I'm not too sure, not really good at setting up non meta teams
She survives until ulti, then dies to Ankhira and Saveas XD
Usually because the rest of my team is dead once she ults LOL
Ye that's where I usually use my tasi for, her and shem ult sync up nice and shem can heal up quite a bit
Ye it's hard with low levels and no tank like brut that can really stall
My pulls have not graced me with a Tasi or Brutus ever
Pretty excited to clear this chapter for my first Brutus ever
I think just getting some levels for now might be the best, or try again in a few hours/tomorrow and see if other people are online that might have a solution for you
Alright, thanks for trying!
What's the best lineup to counter this? Tried using brutus but doesnt seem to work
I Need help i search the best Team
14-12
We canโt help you if you donโt show us your hero @clear kraken
Oof, thought I sent that
Any suggestions? Zombieman summons so much
Any advice on 23-24? Iโve been here over a week.
there is so many damn zombies in this fight and i can't alpha him down
Should I reset and redistribute?
Lol @warm creek i was gonna ask about the same level! Stuck on 23-24
@pale kettle is push saveas to 160, Brutus to 140 and then other three up equally
What about redistributing into shem?
But thatโs personal preference
Iโd do shem maybe after everyone hits 140 and you donโt want saveas carrying anymore
Mmk
Shemira needs more support than saveas does
Can someone give a suggestion? This one is kicking my ass for about a week now.
not a level but a red flag in labyrinth,, getting destroyed by a single vedan, ive beaten everyone else ๐๐ any lineup i should use in hopes of defeating him?? his ultimate obliterates my whole team in 15 seconds
Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Last boss floor 3 of lab.
What gear is available in shop after chap 19-1? Is it just mythic for coins instead of gems?
this labyrinth has been super rough for me
For HM wrizz
hardmode Wrizz, any ideas? I can get to like 1/5th but time runs out
best team i can make?
@pale kettle try
Fawkes
Hogan
Belinda
Sav
Arden/nemora
Any advice? I cant even put a scratch in this and its not even a boss >,<
Have Arden and lyca? May need them in order for your Arden to root their Arden.
Have arden leg+ but my lyca is only epic+
What stage is that btw?
Anyone able to give me a suggestion for the stage I posted earlier?
17-6
Can try Arden lyca tasi in the back and Brutus and ezizh in the front ? @half egret
I think the main thing is the arden is ccing me before i can get anything off
And these are all my heroes i currently have
Any chance I can beat this? No idea what lineup to use stage 13-40
Need line-up for 21-37 ty
@pale kettle seems ok. Else Belinda over fawkes. Build Arden my friend, will help you a lot and other options for lineup. Else maybe
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Sav
Tasi/arden
Lol I got rid of my l+ arden for mythic nemora felt bad
I can put a blue arden in resonating crystal just for the ability if you think that will help
@pale kettle might help
@pale kettle Saveas probably isn't going to do well on this level given the faction and level disadvantage, maybe try out the Shemira and if you have a Rosaline throw her in there. What's on your lineup?
am i using arden or belinda ?
hey guys do you have any screenshots of line up that can beat 16-12? I'm wondering how much power I need to beat this stage
@pale kettle maybe try (top to bottom) Hendricks, Brutus, Tasi, Belinda/Shemira, Rosaline. See how that goes first, maybe replacing Tasi with Nemora if necessary
So do you think im able to beat it or do i need to build stronger heroes?
Meh no success, and if I put nemora in, rosaline follows her lol
@pale kettle you have to gear properly for Rosaline to follow Belinda, give Nemora's gear to Belinda and see if that helps
cant get her to change when nemora is on the field right now. My nemora is mythic + and 16 levels over my belinda lol
@pale kettle rip, too bad you don't have another mythic hero to raise up
yeah its a struggle right now lol
Im just gonna wait for the mercenaries to reset. Thanks for the help
Hey all, could anyone please suggest a line up that's good for stages or lab?
I beat it!! Woo
@pale kettle grats time to get stuck beat the next one!
lmaoo tell me about it
I need mercs for this
@jolly wolf 
So dam hard for me with my current line up
@crude perch show us all your heroes
@pallid lake alright so what are we gonna do
@crude perch err...why's there a nemora on the front line against Grezhul, Shemira, and Isabella lol
Donโt doubt me that actually got my brutus vs shemira 1v1
@pale kettle you don't
@devout roost do you have saveas?
He really would probably be the better carry until you can get shem to 161
He's L+ at 140 from Res Crystal
Iโd swap him and shemira personally, level him to 160 and keep shem in crystal until you can push her to 161
Ok
Omg
Brutus, shemira / nemora, rose or athalia, fawkes?
Since Saveas is in Res Crystal I'l need to level my lowest person to get him higher
That was to @crude perch
I'll have to level up Belinda
I did it
Or instead of fawkes through in tasi for faction
I got an ascended Shem from frkend and I did it lmao
@devout roost iโd run 1-5 Saveas, Ulmus, tasi, arden, nemora
Assuming you have nemora?
Lol,ok
@crude perch whenever you see Farael.. it's nearly always nemora mirror him to charm him
You have them in crystal? What level is your crystal at now?
Oh I'm not leveling up the Crystal itself right now
I'm leveling up my top 5 heroes
Right, what level is your lowest at now?
140
My lowest is Belinda
Ok I leveled up my Belinda to 149
What was the formation you said to use? @pallid lake
What do i do? Boss
@devout roost you could try it with those levels I really meant for you to reset shemira and level saveas to 160 since heโs L+(my bad I was unclear) but you can try it with him in crystal first. Try 1-5 Grezhul, Saveas, Tasi, Arden, Nemora
Need help ๐
Can i beat this stage?
15-8, any advice appreciated
K I'll try that
Never mind. Just beat it. Swapped Belinda and Shemiraโs spots
Still cant figure it out
Tasi
Lucius
Saveas
Brutus
Athalia @dark kayak
@floral cargo try
Belinda
Hogan/Brut
Shem
Lucius
Rosaline
Ok
If not, maybe
Rosaline
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Shemira @floral cargo
Help here pls too :):)::))
Ty passed the boss, but now lab
Umm, the enemy saveas melts anything i put on top frontline :(
seirus u mean?
haha i dont see the saveas. hmm i assume brut is dead?
maybe try
fawkes
Lucius
Athalia
Saveas
Rowan
This is another account xD
Okay iโll try
Ooohh this is another level damn my memory didnt save the fact that beat the previous OP level xD
Suggestions? Idk what to do. I can level some heroes to legend but not legend + right away like youโre supposed to do
Ty @novel adder
Stuck at 12-40
@sullen badge if you can L saveas you can go ahead.. saveas copies or any legendary tier hero for that matter is easily built.. so they can be exceptions.. but sometimes its still better to wait for the 'right' fodder. You can sort of ascend belinda because you will get a copy of her from finishing chapter 10.. but i dont recommend you do that now at this level range.. since you will thin your options so much u end up weaker than before... ascensions not done right will make u weaker. I think basically u need to reset your lucius and put him on your resonating crystal.. then level one of your E+ units (ira looks good) so you can make your crystal 101. lucius will break his natural E cap that way.. and u can continue to progress your levels while waiting for fodder to ascend. hope that helps
Last level floor 3, my heroes are the same i just have khasos in addition
@lament wigeon lineup looks generally alright
maybe try swapping rosaline for mirael.. and swap lucius and brutus' position. the 140 cap is unfortunately your main wall. start building L+ fodder units in case it takes forever.
@novel adder thanks
@floral cargo try
Saveas
Khasos
Belinda
Lucius
Athalia
not sure how it will work.. the healing might be too much.. or try
Belinda
Saveas
Satrana
Lucius
Athalia..
I dont have satrana personally.. but anti heal sounds good against this team
Yeah I figured as much with the Ascension wall. Been tryna hopefully speed through 12-40 and then use the 10 faction scrolls on Maulers and see what happens
Which stage is this
9-12
@novel adder both didnt work i tried 3 times for each lineup (maybe cuz of rng) but they both fell short
@shell hamlet this one was ez just aim for isabella put ur saveas on top backline
Shemira + Rosaline (do you have one?) @floral cargo might work best here given it's all LB
I dont have rosa :((
Rowan, Estrilda, or Lyca can work too, anything to get Shemira to ult faster would be nice
I have rowan tho similar effects
But the enemy lucius ults way too often so her ult is useless
Esit : iโll try anyway
looks like you could use Arden to root the bottom half
Mhmm
Woah my luck was insane on this one lol, arden kept rooting lucius and belinda they didnt even ult once
And i won so thank you :)):):):)
@jolly wolf
yeah Arden is op for fights like these lol, btw if you happen to get a Ferael in the future, considering investing in him so that he can be anti-Lucius or anyone else who needs energy to be useful @floral cargo
Yeah like brutus too
But i never even got close to getting fawkes, btw let me show my real heroes lol
eh brutus would likely own Ferael in the face, but either way Ferael is awesome cuz he does damage more consistently than Shemira (since Shemira has to ult to do her damage), you'll eventually need ferael for later chapters
Oh u said ferael i thought u said fawkes smh
lol, fawkes is decent too, just more niche than Ferael
rip, Discord sometimes has issues with pictures
Need help with 19-24 plz
@brittle maple i don't think you need both arden and nemora for that, put Shemira in nemora's spot and use Brutus in Shemira's original spot instead
@jolly wolf just got rosaline and big daddy brutus from a 10 pull xD
grats, time to make Shemira/Belinda do hilarious amounts of damage @floral cargo
I dont have shemira ::((( but i do have belinda ehehhe
yeah just enjoy watching belinda ult twice and wipe a bunch of enemies at once lol
Yeah lol
@jolly wolf bottom half of the formation gets deleted by saveas and golus
@brittle maple try putting brutus in the front bottom spot and see if that helps
Saveas is legit op he does huge dmg
especially the cheating enemy ascended Saveas
Bahahahhahah ikr
Sun can you check your dm?
Iโve never seen someone ask such a question WHY DO U WANNA REPLACE HER XD
No. I mean, she has to take a spot in my line-up (i'm not using her atm). But who's place ?
@junior solar Saveas will be useless after lvl 160 anyway reset him and feed him to brutos and get Shemira up to 160+ at 161 and higher she rocks
don't feed saveas to brutus until he's past his point of relevance in faction tower, however
Good morning n9 how are you
good, at work as usual
After shemira, which graveborn hero should I upgrade??
Lol you always at work I have day of today so school run then do sweet nothings๐คฃ
@pale thunder bring fereal and grez up for now till you get a further copy of thoran
@severe solar on thanks
Is there anything I can do to get past this level?
Fereal be useful for battles against thane and Athalia b and grez does pretty good on wrizz
@severe solar ty man
@vagrant goblet have you tried Lucius brutos , Lyca nemora Shemira behind brutus
14-37. Still suck ๐ญ
@clear saddle Need advice plz ty 21-37
@ember bane top Brutus buttomShemira front . Top back tasi Lyca Arden it will work just keep replying it
@severe solar i think so, but iโll give it some tries
@iron kelp line up for you your stage
๐ญ if only my crystal could be 141. My life would be easy. Need to finish chap 14 to L+ my Brutus
@severe solar yeah my troops get wrecked super hard like that
Is stargazing worth?
@vagrant goblet what stage is it let me have a look
15-12
Okay I be back in a moment I find a line up for@you
I need 1 more shemira to upgrade her to mythic+ :( and I'm on chap 16
Thanks man, youโre the best
@vagrant goblet got 2 line ups what work
Try changing your gear around and your dura pieces too
I've tried running tasi, but swapped for anthalia to cc arden, if I swap shemira and lyca, my shemira lives long enough to ult but not to heal from it, and Brutus gets thrown into arden, and kills him with the aoe from ogi, I don't have a silvina or I'd try that,
Have you tried nemora for Athalia to charm Arden
It's too random, I can never charm arden, or if I do my srden roots him so he s doesn't do anything
brutus always face kaz............ lyca/shemira face ogi.... backline either use athalia cancel arden or put arden to lock arden nemora to charm ira... if you can hire mercenary get estrilda to face ogi...
and get M faction boots to make your hero cast faster.
@severe solar shit... my Arden isnt even elite ๐
@severe solar i think my is already same and I have tried swapping Arden tasi Lyca
Anyone got a lineup for 17-20?
@severe solar tasi asleep shemira twice so she can't use her main skill and Arden tasi dies quickly
@serene basin I won't Shem face ogi tho. You can try
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
So how can I beat this level?
@lone shale Try
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Stuck at 9-39
Anyway to counter niru?
He any good?
@crystal spruce Kindly ask in #classic-questions
Anyway i can beat this?
How do I incapacitate both Arden and freaking Ira while still surviving Ogi until theyโre dead? I canโt make Belinda target Ira which is ruining my attempt. She has to die
@pale kettle
Try
Athalia
---- Shemira
Rowan
---- Brutus
Fawkes
@pale kettle
Try replacing Belinda with Rowan
@pale kettle
You really should put Arden in your crystal you can easily replace Vaden with Arden
Nevermind I Just Beat it. Add Ira to the list of campaigns enemies who can die in a fire
i dont have arden xD i had a light setup ...
Any way to beat this without Arden? Trying to rebuild him
Stuck on 23-24 feel like it shouldnโt be this bad
21-10 since these are new enemies i cant find info on how to beat them any ideas?
Any clue what I can do?
Looking for a new lineup, struggling in tower and now chapter 8.
@hoary prawn focus on getting belinda to max first
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty 21-37
Shemira asleep twice by enemy Tasi and Arden tasi dies quickly
this level is even harder than boss stage, pls help
any help on 18-40?
Send ss i cant remeber 18.40 @vapid jay
who do i remove for brutus
@vapid jay opt1 replace nem with arden or put nem mid opposite enemy arden and put tasi/arden bot remove athalia
need help floor 70 GB
thanks @small acorn let me try and update you ๐
@pale kettle Erm.. once Shem gets more levels.. you can easily clear gb tower.
i got it
@pale kettle dont pu5 shem furthest from eziz
@pale kettle grats
@small acorn - I think i need Athalia, their Arden is always CCin before me ๐ฆ
do you have a gorvo
Some help, please?!
@outer solstice stuck at the same xD
do you have gorvo
15-36, do I have a chance? Any suggestions?
@lament birch yeah, I saw others messages... itโs a new fucked up team to face it.... hard. And isnโt even a boss
Some help please? Anyone has an idea to beat it?
@outer solstice my best bet would be to lend a Gorvo and get a lot of sustain so your Shemira can get some ults OFF
Though youโre further than I am
thanks @pale kettle and @small acorn I cleared it
Any way to beat this with no Arden? Rebuilding him currently
use lyca instead of rosa? @strange bobcat the typical meta lineup doesnt work?
Iโve tried all my other supports. Getting railed. Only one that goes of is shemira, but sheโs down to like 10% hp and doesnโt get her max heal off
who does silvinia target? if its tasi does she die instantly? are you using dura call on shemira?
Usually tasi or Nemora. Depends who i swap in and out. And 2 hits whoever she targets (usually)
usually you want her to target tasi, if tasi doesnt die she might teleport somewhere else to stall out 1 more hit from enemy, you want nemora to charm either estrilda for her stun/ belinda for her damage on shemira/mirael for her shield, depending on who works better but i usually charm estrilda/belinda to help my shemira's attack damage. meta lineup should work easily i think.
Nemora gets one hit lol
by silvinia? then get her defence higher than tasi
@strange bobcat is it 16-36?
@vagrant goblet I got Gorvo today, an elite of course
@outer solstice 18-36
@strange bobcat I beat 16-36 with Shemira n Lucius; tasi nemora arden if Iโm not wrong. Is the same formation
Lucius gets one hit in 18 lol
Dammit
Any suggestion?
@faint kelp reset saveas, use the dust to make shemira above 161, use wilder trio bakcline or swap saveas for rowan/rosa if you really want to use lightbearer comp
@sleek portal closer, but still getting smoked.
Had to take all gear off tasi for her to get targeted
Shemira isnโt able to get the full self heal off.
@sleek portal i love you, beat it โค๏ธ
@sleek portal thanks. I push it 6 stages with 161 shem lucius and wilder trio
@faint kelp spam shemira level and you'll see yourself pushing CHAPTERS instead of stages.
Lol 18-39 now ๐ฅด
Shemira gets destroyed in both frontline spots
Shit it is 16-39. Idk where i got 18 from sorry
if u have an arden just put him in crystal regardless of his ascension, you just need the initial root, if it doesnt work out then shemira against khasos brutus against ogi arden behind shemira lock 3 nemora middle back charm nemora charm 1, or you can swap around and put arden middle back to lock both frontline and use nemora to charm ira
sometimes u'd want call on tasi(if you're using her) and blade on shemira
Nobody gets an ult off with any of those lineups. Arden isnโt able to root. He freezes khasos thatโs it
@strange bobcat i told ya that was 16-36
Lol idk where i got 18 from ๐
Need help with how to proceed to advance. Level is 9-38. Been playing for a week and did first hard lab last night. Feel like im gonna be stuck here now for a while unless i grt sime legendarys soon
@sleek portal man, can you help me?
@dark tundra Need advice plz ty 21-37
Shemira asleep twice by enemy Tasi and Arden tasi dies quickly
brutus face kaz, lyca/shemira face ogi depending on how tanky your shemira is with her M gears. backline top to bottom can be athalia(cancel arden's root)/tasi/nemora/arden. if you can hire mercenary get estrilda to face ogi. you should probably remember this enemy lineup well cause you'll be facing him 5 more times i think
@outer solstice
i usually put arden to face arden and give my arden m boots so he cast his triple root first, then use nemora to charm opponent ira so he kills the ogi fast for my team.
Going to try
some people like to use tasi+arden but i used nemora for the charm, and i put call on shemira
you can also try to youtube 19-38 if iirc, exact same enemy lineup @outer solstice
@sleek portal thanks mate!
Stuck in 15-40. Possible for me to beat this stage?
@empty sierra use nemora instead of tasi, nemora middle back position charm faerel = win
Tried it but my team dies even faster haha
@arctic moat slow down and get some levels if you're really hard stuck, imo wilder trio dont work well unless you have lyca in for the haste buff. you have to pick 3 out of the (nemora/arden/tasi/lyca) usually. and if you decide to use saveas as main carry until level 160s then you should probably ascend him asap to L+.
@sleek portal got a day and half to beat ch 16 so i can use faction scrolls and pray for Arden ๐
@empty sierra F2P is right. Arden top nemora middle back, lyca back bot. Arden Lyca can switch.. but drop tasi.
Reset if ferael charm fails.
you should really try to push as fast as possible as upcoming guild event is based on your event day 1 chapter progression
Okay I'll keep trying that lineup
Shiz. Gotta get past 16 then
@empty sierra try to swap around your dura artifact if you still cant get through. and the M boots placement as well on supports.
Iโm stuck ๐ any ideas?
@pseudo hill keep saveas behind brutus
@strange bobcat my Brutus dies very fast and then Savaes gets like 2 shot
Hello,
I need some advice with this stage. Thanks.
What makes shemira heal max health?
her ult
Hm. Sheโs going off 1-2 times but not healing
when the clouds leave
@sleek portal Thanks for the advice!
Should I replace Hogan for thane
This is the gear i would lose. Im new so I'm early game and this counts as good
@pseudo hill normally we use Sav behind Brutus.. but for this stage might be different since no point dps aim Brutus who won't die easily. Arden really is useful after 81 with 2 roots. You need a little more power. Keep leveling Sav to 100, then crystal 80, then Sav to 120 again. Try
Sav
Brutus/Hogan
Belinda
Hogan/Brutus
Raine
@fierce kayak is Raine good?
@cerulean whale They serve different roles. Hogan is tank/bruiser, thane is only off tank late stage. For your level, Hogan more useful. Try this lineup but subject to changes:
Sav 100
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Arden
You didn't place heroes on crystal?
@pseudo hill good for wrizz boss and Light team. But for you at your level.. she is still useful for Belinda and you don't have much options too.
So should I reset Lyca and Arden and level Raine and Savaes further? @fierce kayak
@pseudo hill I already mentioned just level Sav buddy becos he is carry.
Read my pin at #classic-questions for early game tips.
Okay, thank you
@small acorn so dont get rid of hogan for brutus now
Hey guys. Any lineup help? Thanks
Hello, should I try to get Saveas E+ with my faction scrolls? Or try to get Nemora?
Zzz 
Yes as to Sav. You should have Saveas at L+ in early stage, see pinned msgs in #classic-questions
Thx!
pls help me
@wild tree try
Arden, twins, Tasi, Brutus Saveas
๐ got wrecked
try:
Arden Hogan
Saveas Brutus
Mehira
Someone can help me? Iโm stuck because of hard cc + healing, maybe I might be missing something
Help pwease :c
@clear dagger he wonโt get factional buff tho
god dem
niceeee!
Gj
thanks peeps!
@chilly turret revert to level 1 -shem and lucius. Level up only 5 heroes, put others in the crystal if there are slots open.. level up saveas up to 160 or at least 20 levels higher than the others
Try
Saveas/Belinda
Estrilda
Rosa
Hogan/Lucius (tank here)
Belinda/Saveas
Lucius as Tank?
Lucius can tank on early stage, so you need to place him in the crystal
You need to eliminate golus and saveas on that level. So belinda should not be in the middle, and rosa can support her
Thanks
Help please
Niceee hehehe
Help meeee
Is hendrik a Good Tank @clear dagger
@pale kettle try
Belinda
Brutus
Rosa/Fawkes
Lucius
Tasi
Shem is a game changer at level 161 on that stage ๐
@clear dagger should I reset Belinda and level my shemira to 161?
@chilly turret Hendrik is good but only in certain comps tbh, and needs high ascension to work well
I search a Tank for my Team ๐ญ
@chilly turret Hmm. I preferred Lucius. He can be your tank as of the moment
@pale kettle i think so too. Sheโs a carry at level 161
@chilly turret Yessum! ๐ hope you can get another copy of lucius
Any advice? Still stuck at this stupid stage
@clear dagger so I leveled my shemira to 161 and Belinda to 155 what should my formation be?
@pale kettle
Try:
Tasi
Shem
Lucius
Brutus
Mehira
Or
Lucius
shem
fawkes
brutus
belinda
Hi guys! For line up help, send us your team line up as well, we only see 10 heroes when you send one picture of the level youโre stuck with
@clear dagger any idea what to do for me?
@shell hamlet change positions of tasi and saveas then change shemira for safiya is she don't use her pyramid then change her for hogan
@shell hamlet try
Saveas
Hogan/Estrilda
Athalia
Brutus
Ezizh
@clear dagger brutus is bad on this low level :/
@vernal berry how did you pas 34?
I think Ogi will smash estrilda on that stage.
@clear dagger that didnโt work i still got clapped
I don't quite remember how but I think it was
Fawkes
Estrilda
Lyca
Lucius
Shemira
@violet pecan
Also this is my heroes so you can compare
Also maybe try changing tasi for fawkes and then exchange positions of brutus and shemira
Help
Advice for 17-36?
@clear dagger tysm gave it some tries then I won
@shell hamlet dang! I know Ogi is badass there. I think a good cc will really help, like arden instead of ezizh, so that estrilda(instead of Brutus) can survive in the front line
@pale kettle niceeee! ๐
Third time, help me pass 14-39
Still could use help, hes a pic with my lineup and the rest of my heroes
Anyone have any idea?
Need help on 9-40
@clear dagger so my lineup would be
saveas
Estrilda
Athalia
Brutus
Arden/Ogi
?
@clear dagger
@shell hamlet nice!!! 
My just buff Belinda into annihilating the other team strat may not work here
What should i do? Muriel ult is murking me
@dark kayak try arden instead of tasi
I did try that its even worse ๐๐ญ
Anyone got some advice for how to beat Floor 234? Thanks!
Any ideas?
AFK or is there something here that works?
@clear dagger anything else you can think of?๐ค
@dark kayak try not to direct attack mirael since she will get free energy from that
Need help, without spending money this is my lineup and I can't literally do anything anywhere anymore.
@undone linden try changing lyca for khasos and grezzhul for brutus
@pale kettle idk if there is but try morvus instead of estrilda :/
Any idea??
Any recommendations? 16-40.. shemira isnโt even able to attack. Getting rooted hard.
What is the best lineup I can do? Im new so pls be specific when saying a hero
Im in labyrinth
@cerulean whale I think your biggest issue is a lack of sustain at the moment.
I'd try
- Hogan
- Khasos
- Belinda
- Athalia
- Saveus
And move around Athalia to snipe out the enemy you'd like to get rid of.
I'm no pro though
Whos athalia
1st char, 2nd row
Any ideas? Iโm stuck
It's an assassin who will target the directly opposing enemy (If you place it at position 4, it'll go for enemy belinda)