#lineup-help
still oar
void dock
@violet pecan
Tasi
Brutus
Arden/lyca
Shem
Nemkra
violet pecan
@still oar if i had lyca at 220 and nemora it would be much easier
Thank you guys i will try
tired plover
Stuck on a non-boss stage,11:35.Even raised Arden to 141 hoping his roots will help,they don’t.Appreciate the help
final star
Need help if possibleee
versed canopy
Hi any advice for 20-60
pale kettle
Any tips for 20-20? Tried various strategies found on YouTube but still get whooped. Should nemora charm brutus? Or run arden to root? Any thoughts? Ping me on here or dm me. Thanks lads
versed canopy
@sudden sparrow thanks will try
sudden sparrow
@pale kettle Nemora mid Backline to charm enemy Nemora and get 2 enemies charmed that way:
Tasi/Lyca
-Shem
Nemora
-Brutus
Lyca/Tasi
violet pecan
@wise merlin @still oar
versed canopy
@sudden sparrow did the trick after a few 1v1 shemira vs shemira thanks
wise merlin
@violet pecan 👏
still oar
👍
foggy radish
@fierce kayak no Chance, mostly ferael gets rootet and Charmed, after that they just destroy me :D guess i am too weak
pale kettle
Good afternoon! Any chance somebody could give me some advice for a good formation?
fierce kayak
@foggy radish Erm.. nemora is the way to beat farael. You can switch others around but nemora stays. Don't use tasi as she banish Farael and he can't be charm.
ember bane
@violet pecan My Nem should charm enemy Nem try much but enemy Isa prob for me
final star
I'd use Tasi so she can sleep Isa while she is ulting or banish her
turbid fern
any idea please?
ashen schooner
@turbid fern Arden in the middle, make sure Saveas and/or Ira rooted. Can also test Arden top backline and Nemora middle backline for Vurk poison towards teammates.
ember bane
@final star some say kick tasi n some use her @@
ashen schooner
There are situations where Tasi is more useful or not. The Wilders are a rotation, with Lyca being replaced the least from the pool (Tasi, Nemora, Arden).
turbid fern
@ashen schooner Passed 1st try! Thank you very much! I had tried this before but khasos was always killing arden before he could root even once and this time he could root 3 times in a row. RNG ...
ashen schooner
@turbid fern Congrats! Glad it worked out 
lament birch
Anything to improve?
worldly totem
Hi can you guys help me
delicate void
Try to switch saveas with tasi
Maybe also brutus with shemira
wise merlin
@worldly totem Hey ^^
Try this out :
Swap Nemora with Belinda
Try and get Lucius to level 121
Should be enough 😋
worldly totem
Thank you will try it :)
delicate void
Damn looks like I'm to dumb for this game
wise merlin
@delicate void You're not dumb.
You were right on your tactic, but it would work if he had more reliable DPS
Don't get discouraged. 🙂
delicate void
Is shemira not enough for that?
worldly totem
Thank you guys it worked:)
broken egret
@north aspen take out shem put in tasi
do you also have an arden? if so swap him in for fawkes
try this setup:
arden
saveas
tasi
lucius
nemora
if you dont have arden just place lyca/fawkes in his spot
strange bobcat
Any suggestions? 14-39.
onyx basin
20-54 this is impossible any ideas? Ulmus one shots my shemira after his ult
indigo jolt
@onyx basin
onyx basin
@indigo jolt thanks
cinder crag
I was gona type a throughout explanation but nvm lol
If tasi doesnt work you can always use nem to charm estrilda for buff cuz Ulmus when rooted is immune to cc
indigo jolt
Yep, one stage basically chain cc'd ulmus so could never ult.
onyx basin
i just switched arden and tasi from my ss and it worked nrg needed
strange bobcat
@cinder crag any help on mine? Lol
cinder crag
@strange bobcat So basically you need to stall for Shem ult ( as always lol ) so if Shem can withstand the khasos and vurk I would suggest this scrap Lucius put shemira in front of khasos put Arden in the top spot behind Shemira put lyca in the middle basically Shem Ults and tasi Ults just in time to clutch the win
With good RNG by the time tasi Ults both Brutus and sav will be low
strange bobcat
Don’t have an Arden to use, and Lyca isn’t really leveled
When i put Shem front line, she gets cocooned
cinder crag
@strange bobcat even rare works also you use lyca for her haste ( otherwise khasos will throw axes and potentially one shot backline) put Arden to crystal
It's a bit RNG with Arden rooting spider lady or spider lady cocooning someone else you can win try a few times till you get perfect RNG
cinder crag
Arden lyca tasi /nem will buy you enough time for Shem ult
graceful hearth
Do I have a chance or am I just fucked?
strange bobcat
Lyca getting one hit and khasos still throwing
cinder crag
Give Arden better boots he needs to root first
Or if that doesn't work put lyca in front of Shem Arden in middle
strange bobcat
Wow beat it 3rd try lmao
Can’t make my Arden E. Used Luca tasi nem back line, Shem brutus front
pallid lake
Some fights you’re going to retry 500-1000 times lol just a heads up if you wanna progress hard you’ll spam retry for hours sometimes
cinder crag
@strange bobcat congrats :)
graceful hearth
I’ve learned to despise Mirael and Morvus...
cinder crag
Wilder trio is all about RNG :( I really hate it sometimes but it's what it is sadly
strange bobcat
Beat -40 first try lol
cinder crag
@graceful hearth You will learn to abhor Ira (enemy) too when she melts Shem
turbid fern
Any idea for 19-28 please ?
graceful hearth
I swear tho. Mirael’s ult hits like a fucking truck and Morv just utterly fucks Saveas
And I won’t even start on Estrilda..
pallid lake
Quick search found this @turbid fern
cinder crag
@turbid fern Do you have tasi ? If is so use her as silvina bait and put Shem in front of Grezhul and Brutus in front of gollus Arden in the bottom lyca in middle and tasi in the top if Shem can't survive switch up
That works too I guess :D
pallid lake
Lmao yee
Should be very doable with 180 brutus
I remember 19-28 took me a bit cause of rng so it may take some tries but that is the winning setup
turbid fern
@pallid lake & @cinder crag Thank you, I do have Tasi. I'll give it a try, thank you
cinder crag
@ionic quest Scrap Tasi use nemora behind Shem Arden in middle lyca at the bottom basically nem needs to charm estrilda for buff
ionic quest
@cinder crag ok thx I’ll try that
cinder crag
@turbid fern Good luck
ionic quest
@cinder crag got it first try thx
cinder crag
@ionic quest congrats good luck
ionic quest
@cinder crag to think that just getting ride of tasi made the difference
cinder crag
Keep in mind that for fera stages nemora is essential
nocturne sage
stiff pagoda
10-8 sev just trashed my group as well as rat boy
turbid fern
@cinder crag & @pallid lake Just passed the lvl but oh gosh, I had strip Tasi from her armor to get Arden higher than her of 30 points haha
cinder crag
@turbid fern Congrats
pale kettle
Kill me
pallid lake
@turbid fern grats man
silent kettle
Just started the game yesterday, so far I have :
Lyca
Kaz
Estrilda
Arden
Silvina
Ogi
Marvus
Niru
Golus
Who should I be focusing on early game?
sullen prairie
charred oxide
Eeesh dumpstered
Even with estrilda charmed saveas just Chucks 3 spears and destroys my Arden so no root
charred wind
Hey there. Any ideas to beat this lvl?
amber arch
turbid fern
@pallid lake & @cinder crag Stage 19-36 is the same as 19-28. RNG isn't helping me out with the same setup since they are too strong. Any idea which may be more viable?
nova fiber
Stuck at 11-18 any help is great.
turbid fern
Silv jumps on tasi who gets killed in 2 shots. @pallid lake (21-X, F230 F2P) & @cinder crag
pallid lake
@turbid fern I didn’t ss 19-36 pretty sure I one shot it, may need hella rng or to play with your backline some and see what works best, it should be doable with the same layout as 19-28 though
turbid fern
Alright, I'll keep trying. Thank you for the advice
pallid lake
If it doesn’t work maybe try 4 wilders, lyca instead of brutus and throw nemora in there in the bottom slot, tasi in middle
Might change nem/tasi positioning if that doesn’t work idk if vurk or isabella are doing more damage I know both are pretty stout at times
nova fiber
Can anyone check my stuff out for me
pale kettle
Any tips? Seen someone online clear the stage with this set up - no idea how. Warek eats through everything and everyone... 20-21
floral cargo
this the closest i've gotten with ur lineup which is the closest i've ever gotten in this level i only swapped atandra and saveas' places only ira was left alive
turbid fern
Just passed it just smashing the begin battle button and being idle doing other stuff haha
floral cargo
xD
i just want ira and isabella to die
then i'll be comepletely fine
and my rowan to ult and stun enemies
nova fiber
Stuck on 11-19 any help?
pallid lake
@turbid fern yeah get used to that lol it’s what you have to do for a lot of stages from now on, wilder trio needs rng to work out a lot of the time
pallid lake
@floral cargo try changing saveas and eironn and see what that does
floral cargo
i use eironn to bring isabella closer
pallid lake
Then do this, eironn the mauler chicks spot, her where saveas is, saveas bottom backline
forest flume
@floral cargo reset belinda lvl, make her 120. Put all in saveas
floral cargo
mhmm @forest flume
forest flume
And use a faction bonus lol
floral cargo
matt i tried this i've been stuck for 4 days ive tried so many things
pallid lake
Saveas should be able to get isabella then, I imagine ogi is throwing him and causing him to not get enough dps out
floral cargo
now saveas is at lvl 139
nova fiber
Put rest of levels into OP goat man
floral cargo
yeah yeah i did that
forest flume
Nice, goodluck 😉
floral cargo
mmhmm in battle rn
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
the enemy ira was the last with 1 hp UGHHHH im so salty but such a close run
forest flume
With a little better rng you will beat it : )
floral cargo
rowan canceled isabella's ult so it made everyone survive yeah ty dude xD
forest flume
Yeah Rowan can be clutch
floral cargo
yup
cant get6 him to ult everytime tho
I WON
@forest flume i love u gosh finalllyyyyyyyy saveas with the clutch woohoo
i have been stuck for 4 days
look at me skyrocket to 10-20 lol cuz of how much i afked xD
forest flume
Nice! 😊 try to keep saveas 40 lvls above your other heroes. Early game it helps to overlvl your carry
floral cargo
ya he's powerful
btw his healing ability cancels ira's ult (he doesnt take any dmg from it)
forest flume
For sure, sucks that he is lvl capped at 160. After that most go with shemira as carry, she shines at 161+
floral cargo
and i have dura's grace on him which saves him so many times
i dont have shemira but imma rush lab to get her
forest flume
Dura's eye is nice on him as well
forest flume
If you only buy her from lab its easy to ascend her. You get 1 copy from campaign and one from peaks. Shem is like the easiest hero to ascend in the game 😅
forest flume
She might be the strongest early and midgame but at 240+ she falls off
forest flume
Yeah thats true 
floral cargo
rly shemira falls off after 240?
lets go to #classic-chat cuz the cooldown and mods will kill us
forest flume
She is less effective when she is not overlvled
olive thorn
she don't fallof
but there is stronger heroes than her
u can still play her late game np
gaunt cloak
This is my roster so far. Been using Lucius, Shemira, Saveas, Arden and Ezizh. Hit a wall in every single game mode. Should I replace Arden and Ez with Belinda and twins?
I know I need more levels, working on that constantly. But I’m having trouble getting hero exp since I smashed a wall in ch7
final star
Arden works well until chap 22-23+
gaunt cloak
Ezizh gives a 30 defense boost but it’s felt useless.
pseudo hill
Who should I be using?
torn lava
@gaunt cloak try
arden
lucius
ezizh
saveas
nemora
see if you can build saveas to Leg and then Leg + hes a really good carry until ch 12 easily
pseudo hill
So I should do this?
gaunt cloak
Why eliminate Shemira? She seems like the bulk of my sustain, she’s won a lot of fights solo.
torn lava
or i guess try replacing lucius with shemira since you got her lvl 120 @gaunt cloak
pseudo hill
@torn lava so what should my team be?
torn lava
@pseudo hill id use : saveas, hogan front tasi arden belinda back
but you can just lvl saveas as high as you can, and leave rest on lvl 60
torpid cosmos
how to beat?
torn lava
not really... i dont have much experience with morvus but hes subpar and thoran is a really late game hero
pseudo hill
@torn lava so like this?
dusky gale
torn lava
@pseudo hill yep and now only level saveas
pseudo hill
Okay
pale kettle
Tasi gets two shot any tips ?
eternal pecan
@pale kettle I made this mistake myself but something to note...You have a E Golus and a E Saveas. Not sure what you used to merge them but if one of them was an E+ instead...you could get Saveas to L+. That said, I would recommend for now getting Saveas to L and make him your carry (max out his level). Then focus on getting one more E Saveas to make it E+ and then you can ascend Saveas to L+
fickle stone
@eternal pecan is there any place I can read up on the different enhancement levels. I have no idea what E, L and the +s mean. Sounds good. But I would just like to find out. I’m sure I’ll be hitting that wall that @pale kettle is on
eternal pecan
@fickle stone E means Epic (Purple), L means Legendary (yellow), M means Mythic (Red), A means Ascended (White). The + is just an extra ascension. It goes E -> E+ - > L -> L+ -> M - > M+ -> A...There's a level cap on each one. Further info can be found https://www.afkarena.net/leveling
fickle stone
fantastic, thanks @eternal pecan
onyx hinge
@pale kettle i beat that stage with the same heroes, i used
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
My shem was 181, brutus 161 and others at 160 so you should make it
turbid fern
Any idea for 19-38 please?
torpid cosmos
wee i got ignored nice
cinder crag
@turbid fern If Shem can survive Kaz , put Shem in front of lyca scrap nemora use Tasi and use Arden behind Shem
@torpid cosmos Do you have saveas?
torpid cosmos
nope
turbid fern
Ok @cinder crag I'll give it a go
cinder crag
@torpid cosmos Hmm well you need cc to stall but you lack a good damage dealer saveas would have been good
kindred basalt
Struggling like a mofo here any ideas ?
torpid cosmos
i see o .o well turns out i have 2 rare saveas
cinder crag
@kindred basalt do you have lyca ?
torpid cosmos
see
cinder crag
You need to cc khasos before he uses throwing axe ( root) and cc the enemy team till saveas cleans up
iron kelp
14-37
torpid cosmos
oh i killed khasos before when turning brutus into legend since i thought he sucked since he wadnt helping lol
frank cipher
Stuck on 12 33. Any tips?
cinder crag
@iron kelp Get Arden to legendary+ and triple root you will pass it ez cuz I don't see why you can't pass if
kindred basalt
@cinder crag no I do not sadly
cinder crag
@kindred basalt Read what I have said above about khasos
kindred basalt
how does 1 cc him though? my tasi isnt phasing him, keeps phasing saveas @cinder crag
cinder crag
@kindred basalt Use Arden but you need lyca to give you haste otherwise Arden will get one shotted by axes before rooting
With Brutus armor reduction sav can melt him down but he needs to be in place
kindred basalt
kk
turbid fern
@cinder crag Kaz nukes shemira regardless she's front or top/mid back lane :\
unreal storm
Could use some help here it gets down to just khasos and Saveas and then they take me out.
cinder crag
@turbid fern Hmm idk I too suck at Wilder stages but generally all you need is to cc Wilders and Shem needs to ult while tasi coming in to clutch the game
abstract shuttle
Any advice for 20-57 this team isn’t working
tepid current
Any advice for 18-32?
Maybe try using nemora instead of tasi and try to charm enemy arden @abstract shuttle
vernal berry
Help pls
west iron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Aab7tha8g @tepid current
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie5uDx9vQeU @vernal berry
west iron
np
tepid current
How in the world did that guys tasi live long enough to ult
west iron
mythic equipment
tepid current
I hav 3m on her too
How did everyone ignore the tasi and just not hit her after the teleport tho
west iron
hmm a lot of rng/retries
tepid current
The hell his lyca lived too???
west iron
a ton of dodge helps
tepid current
Pretty sure what I just watched was a 1 in a million
west iron
yeah people can make it to high stages with weaker teams with a lot of persistence
tepid current
I've already re entered at least 100 times by now
zinc summit
Advice on beating this stage? 11-21
brittle summit
Any suggestions for 20-44?
sly sparrow
Any ideas? 17-3
west iron
sometimes may just need to afk a bit and research some teams that beat the stage before (videos)
karmic summit
I dont have too many heroes still on 6-36 so i dont think i have the luxury of researching a team. What other ways can i get Hero xp other than the campaign since i think thats what im lacking.
west iron
can just use ones that other people commonly use and tweak it with the ones you have
hero xp from hero xp hour glasses and quick rewards, otherwise may need to afk a while
karmic summit
hero xp hour glasses?Whats that?
west iron
it's kinda rare though also from using $ or buying in shop to get it. I seen ones that give 2hr/24hr hero xp.
pallid lake
@sly sparrow swap lyca and shem, then shem and tasi
abstract shuttle
Any advice for 20-60? Trying to do Wilder Factions while I can
lone maple
Anyone got suggestions for 16-36? Been stuck for a couple of days 😭
ember bane
@copper moon need line up 21-20 ty
copper moon
@ember bane
eternal pecan
@zinc summit I'm stuck on that one too
zinc summit
@eternal pecan yeah I think I just need to afk a bit get everyone to 140
@eternal pecanmy front line just gets melt asap
eternal pecan
I only have 141 Shemira atm
zinc summit
@eternal pecan my highest is M belIndia I'm waiting on 2 copies of shemira to make her L+ so I can push her to 140
@eternal pecan it the way the rng works in this game lol
eternal pecan
ya lol...I've been trying
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
sly sparrow
@pallid lake doesnt work :(
warm mauve
@abstract shuttle i had same team but sronger 1100k power bearly beaten it
I was using ascended nemora and lyca,shemira 2 star, tasi l+ , and Brutus mythic
pale kettle
Need some help with this one and any advice on a pve team for early stages would help loads
copper moon
@sly sparrow
Try
Shemira
---- Brutus
Nemora
---- Lyca
Tasi
eternal pecan
@zinc summit I just beat it with
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Lucius
Lyca
So maybe try that same back line...Lyca haste was pretty crucial
copper moon
@pale kettle level up first 5 and put Brutus and Gwyneth in resonating crystal
Use same formation, but put twins in middle and Gwyneth on top
sly sparrow
@copper moon that wouldnt work, nem and tasi dies instantly
modest rampart
Any tips? Currently on 9-19 switching my lineup around shemira carry
copper moon
@sly sparrow
Try
Arden
---- Lucius
Lyca/Tasi
---- Brutus
Shemira
copper moon
@modest rampart remove Grezhul and Fereal from crystal replace with Hogan and Rowan
sly sparrow
@copper moon nuh-uh same effect... im desperate now
copper moon
@sly sparrow
Try
Athalia
---- Lyca
Tasi
---- Brutus
Shemira
modest rampart
this is the standard ive been running
rich snow
https://gyazo.com/e16f5333bb99e5ce6472d870a12e3602
What would be a good setup for Wrizz? I don't have much inkling on who's good for what and why, besides Saveas being 'good at everything right now'.
Note that I'm two shakes from breaking 100 cap on resonator. Just need a bit more dust.
copper moon
@modest rampart
Shemira
---- Hogan
Rowan/Mehira
---- Saveas
Arden/Lyca/Tasi/Twins
modest rampart
is hogan worth upping to legendary?
copper moon
@modest rampart as long as you don't use Ascended tier heroes yes. You're going to need an L+ Hogan to use as fodder for going Mythic
modest rampart
Alrigt, thanks for the advice 🙂
supple stratus
Any ideas? I can get niru left at best..
outer solstice
Any help please?
copper moon
@outer solstice
Try
Shemira
---- Lyca
Athalia
---- Lucius
Tasi
outer solstice
@copper moon Shemira with call or eye?
copper moon
Blade if you have it Eye on Lucius and call on Tasi
sly sparrow
@copper moon not possible... i think im just going to wait and lvl my Shem to 200
copper moon
@sly sparrow wish I took screenshots before ch 20 I managed to get to ch 18 with 180 Shemira
Nvm I think I had 161 Lucius for all of ch 17 as well
outer solstice
@copper moon I don’t have blade, silvina is kicking everybody in the ass
copper moon
@outer solstice
Try
Tasi
---- Shemira
Athalia
---- Lucius
Lyca
If that doesn't work you can also try
Tasi
---- Lucius
Athalia
---- Shemira
Arden
outer solstice
@copper moon guess I have to afk more.... and try those things later
supple stratus
@sly sparrow - that's with 151 crystal 180 shem. need gorvo and good dodge on lyca though. (gorvo is always op against ogi, not well-known but yep)
real cairn
Help :c
copper moon
@real cairn
Try
Gwyneth
---- Estrilda
Safiya
---- Antandra
Fawkes
left tendon
Okay, so I know I kinda shot myself in the foot by raising Mirael so high before other LBs, but I’ve been struggling on this level for a hot minute and I’m hoping for some guidance? Anything would be appreciated! 😭
west iron
@jade can try to use a good saveas as your main dps plus nemora, tasi, Arden, lyca* can use Lucius too but helps to use Brutus if you get him.
left tendon
I'll probably put Saveas in the crystal when my cool down period is finished, that's about the only thing I haven't tried so far pfft
west iron
Might want to use Hogan and perhaps morvus as fodder if you get enough to make like Lucius L+. Also you should only level up 5 main heroes or else it wastes resources. Saveas needs to be overlvled so he should be a main hero imo.
pale kettle
Someone help pls 12-1
left tendon
Yeah I was kinda dumb when I first started, I've got a reroll account that I'm being smarter with but I don't want to just abandon this one since it was my first. 💀
pale kettle
stuck 8-20
west iron
@pale kettle may help to search up some videos on that stage. @pale kettle @sly sparrow I g2g for a while
sly sparrow
@supple stratus dont have gorvo sadly
topaz tangle
Any advice for 17-36?
pale kettle
Any ideas?
cursive sparrow
Any advice? :)
eternal pecan
@pale kettle I think I beat this one with
Nemora (L 123)
Shemira (L+ 141)
Arden (L+ 123)
Lucius (L 123)
Lyca (E 123)
Which level is that?
cursive sparrow
9+8
eternal pecan
hmmm tough one...no clue what you can do there. You've got nice GB team of guys I never used lol
ashen schooner
If you can’t take Belinda straight to L+, then no.
And you don’t use Ascended tier heroes as fodder.
pale kettle
@eternal pecan are you sure? This is 11-32
eternal pecan
@pale kettle oh ok woops I'm not there then yet XD
pale kettle
No worries
cursive sparrow
What does fodder mean? 😂 Excuse my lack of knowledge
ashen schooner
Fodder, meaning ascension materials.
eternal pecan
@pale kettle you can still try something similar to my suggestion tho...Nemora at the top there to charm Saveas really helps...I bet Tasi doesn't really survive to get her ult off?
I've been using Lyca because her haste helps my Lucius get his ult off faster
cursive sparrow
So basically don't ascent shit hero's?
sullen meadow
cursive sparrow
Ascend
sullen meadow
18-32 any help?
ashen schooner
@sullen meadow Tried replacing Rowan with Lyca?
sullen meadow
Ok
ashen schooner
I'd also swap Shemira and Thoran, then maybe replace Thoran with Brutus.
sullen meadow
Ok
dark kayak
Stuck any tips?
ashen schooner
@dark kayak Try swapping Saveas and Athalia.
Maybe also
Saveas
Brutus
Shemira
Warek
Athalia
serene basin
Best line up for soren?
dark kayak
@ashen schooner pretty close i think im just severely underleveled haha
ashen schooner
I'd say just keep resetting, you might get lucky. 🙂
dark kayak
Boom i love you😂 @ashen schooner thank you
ashen schooner
Congrats! @dark kayak
dark kayak
Any pro tips for this one🤔😂 @ashen schooner
grand dragon
Help pls
ashen schooner
Athalia
Shemira
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi @dark kayak
dark kayak
Okay thanks thats what im trying. Appreciate the help
ashen schooner
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Khasos
Nemora @grand dragon
north aspen
Any advice on 7-40 would be appreciated
Fawkes helps but it’s not enough. I suppose it’s just sheer levels now
ashen schooner
@north aspen Swap Tasi and Nemora placement.
broken egret
@north aspen any chance you have an arden?
ashen schooner
May I get a screenshot of your heroes as well, please.
grand dragon
Thx @ashen schooner
broken egret
Arden is a great and cheap unit to build, also at 81 is a powerspike for him when he gets to root 2 people
broken egret
@ashen schooner i would say with the level diff his Sav got he should be included right?
north aspen
Yah Saveas is a must I think.
ashen schooner
Saveas is the carry here
broken egret
Ye but u didn't mention him in lineup
north aspen
^
ashen schooner
Ooh yeah I forgot he existed sec
broken egret
He should put Sav in the spot u placed shem I'm pretty sure
ashen schooner
Saveas
Estrilda
Belinda/Nemora
Lucius
Fawkes
ashen schooner
Yes
north aspen
Yeah it must be the level difference..I’m getting crit for like 25-30k it’s insane. They just melt every time
Thank you for the help, both of you!
sage sage
Can anyone help? Can’t seem to be able to kill even one
pale kettle
@sage sage If I'm correct You lack of dmg to kill that stage. Try:
Shemira
Lucius
Rosaline
Lyca
Silvina
west iron
May need a lvl 160 L+ saveas, lvl 161+ shemira, or another strong dps, to out dmg the heals or it goes nowhere
pale kettle
I think belinda would be better than shemira since her Shemira is weak
But the fact that saveas is a must need hero for early game its true
tawny night
Why does my team keep getting absolutely demolished but my friend is ahead of me by a whole chapter with the same levels and almost the same team?
pale kettle
@tawny night Because He maybe use Brutus, shemria, Tasi, Lyca and Arden
west iron
May be the equipment/duras/sigs, the ascensions, and the formation placement. And he may use the meta team ^
pale kettle
This stage is kinda hard with that ogi who stuns tho
@tawny night Try this.
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemria
Tasi
serene basin
Best soren set up?
pale kettle
I wish you had Arden
@serene basin I cant tell too much about soren since he can make your heroes fight against each other but having Lucius who may use his shield just before Soren charms. may prevent from charming. Put on Him Duras Call
west iron
I would use shemira, Lucius, estrilda, Rosaline, and Baden/Silvina (if you don't have Baden)
pale kettle
Why he isn't using his estrilda tho 👀
tawny night
@pale kettle that combo worked on first try ty
pale kettle
@tawny night Yw
sage sage
@pale kettle tried that but switched shem for Belinda and managed to kill 2. Thanks a lot!!
I’ll try other combinations to see if I can finally clear 🙂
serene basin
@west iron I don't have a baden or shemira and I was afraid of using lightbears for the disadvantage
pale kettle
@sage sage well You still Lack of dps. Try building up saveas You can make it in one week 🙂
Maybe
turbid fern
Stuck at 20-19 (I have arden L+). I've been trying 200+ times and still can't pass it. Any advice please?
west iron
It can work pretty well though
pale kettle
@turbid fern Hmm I think I know how I beat it. let me check if I have the sc
turbid fern
Ok @pale kettle
serene basin
@west iron who do I use since I don't have Baden or Sylvania
west iron
Even E Silvina might work okay, the main point is to prevent Soren from charming your team. She backstabs him early on but need to manually use her ult to keep him focused on the back
tepid current
18-35 any advice?
serene basin
I don't have a silvinia, I don't have space in the crystal
west iron
Alright I hear you.. maybe athalia as I did hear some have luck using her
tepid current
Grexhul works at turning soren try using him
pale kettle
@turbid fern Nah I don't have it. But try this
Arden
Shemria
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi/Nemora
That took me a lot of trying. Arden must root Khasos and Ira for sure then hope that rng will make you winer.
west iron
Yeah grezhul but he needs to survive to ult or have a sig to summon a skeleton behind soren
pseudo hill
Is Gwyneth any good?
pale kettle
@tepid current The same formation for you too
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi/Nemora
And arden must Root Khasos and Ira by Rng
turbid fern
@pale kettle Thank you, I'll give it many tries as last time I had used arden top, he was getting nuked by Ira right away :\
Should I use call on shemira by the way ?
pale kettle
@turbid fern Lol of he will. Even shemira will melt in front of Ira. thats why arden should Root her and khasos and he can do that only by the haste that Lyca gives. The next free place wich is left is for Tasi or Nemora. try them both and see which match is a closer one
turbid fern
Alright, I'll try Tasi instead of Nemora for a few
serene basin
So shemira gets charmed and deletes Rosa, any ideas on how to stop it
dark kayak
Any ideas
serene basin
@pale kettle @west iron any ideas on how to stop Soren from Charming Shamira and killing Rosa immediately
broken egret
@serene basin use something like baden that places clones behind him so he charms the other way
serene basin
I don't have a unit that does that, or if I do I don't have space in the crystal
pale kettle
@serene basin Lmao I have the same problem. It depends on the rng.
spare seal
Hey, I'm currently stuck on 18-4 (The fight is Kaz, Hogan/ Nemora, Arden, Silvina). I'd like some advice as to what comp to use for this fight since I'm having trouble with it, but I feel like I should be able to do it. Also, just maybe general comp help, because besides 3 heroes I have no idea who to use.
pale kettle
@spare seal Can you send a sc of your stage so We can give you a better help
broken egret
@serene basin you got, numisu, baden, grezghul?
spare seal
Sure, here you go.
dark kayak
Anyone for this?
west iron
pale kettle
@dark kayak Never put shemira in front of Brutus
Saveas
shemria
Tasi
Brutus
Athalia
serene basin
I have numisu and grezhul
west iron
depends if your shemira has enough dodge to dodge brutus at least
spare seal
Hmm thanks, I'll give that a try. Would you guys have an idea for a general comp that I should probably be using first, or am I at a point where a lot of experimentation with comp is what's needed?
serene basin
But i suspect they'd die too quick
pale kettle
@west iron shemria Dodge?????
dark kayak
Damn i tried so many that worked thanks @pale kettle
west iron
yep my shemira dodges brutus but she has full mythic+ gb equip 5*
broken egret
@spare seal most stages require experimentation
pale kettle
@dark kayak Yw
@west iron Ughh. 
. How can she dodge
broken egret
@spare seal howver a general setup comes back a lot, when facing arden or fereal, mostly have nemora directly opposite to charm them. When facing things like ogi front put lyca in front of shem instead so she doesn't get tossed. Just stuff like that
@spare seal also VS silv try and make tasi def lowest so she dashes to her instead and she can dash away and survive
spare seal
Yeah I try, but she keeps going on my Arden. Trying the comp from the vid.
west iron
shemira with 5 mythic+ gb equip 5* has 398 dodge so may be possible
dark kayak
Yeah my shemira cant dodge brutus i only have blue / purple gear rn im still level 33 lol
But his suggestion worked thankfully 😎
nocturne furnace
Any suggestions everything be but shemira basically insta dies, I think it’s just because I’m underpowered but Idek
broken egret
@spare seal silv dash is not rng, she goes for lowest defense mage, so just remove the body piece of gear from tasi to make her defense lower than arden if you want her to dash to tasi
spare seal
Yeah, she dashes to Tasi now. My heroes just die so quick, can barely get ults off.
broken egret
Uhm what stage was it again @spare seal ?
spare seal
18-4. I put a ss of it earlier in the chat. Silvina keeps getting utl off on my Shemira either before her ult or right after.
ancient oasis
Got smoked
west iron
may need tasi to survive and ult to delay silvina's ult or brutus to tank silvina's ult
spare seal
I've had one fight where Tasi got her ult off and I killed one or two of them, but Nemora ulted and my Shem ult couldn't kill them.
west iron
have upgraded mythic boots for tasi/shemira and dura's call on tasi?
spare seal
That was when I had Dura's call on Tasi, I put it on Shem now, but not sure.
broken egret
@spare seal I would like to suggest a different setup than the vid tho. Try
Tasi
Brut
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Make sure nem charms arden so arden roots his own team, again have tasi def lower than nem
spare seal
If I put good gear on Tasi, Silvina will kill Arden. I don't have second pair of int mythic boots either.
broken egret
@spare seal if this doesn't work, swap lyca position with shem and see if that does better
oblique phoenix
Is 20-8 even beatable lmao?
west iron
boots doesn't give def though so she should still target tasi if she has lowest def. arden just needs to survive long enough to make some game winning roots. if all else fails may just need to afk for a while till you get better equip/upgrade heroes.
broken egret
@oblique phoenix it is, just a shit ton of rng like really a lot
@oblique phoenix use
Lyca
Shem
Nem
Brut
Tasi
west iron
shem up there will kill lyca quick
ancient oasis
@west ironthanks
spare seal
Trying the new comp, not sure which is better. I guess I'll keep trying. Any suggestions for artifacts on which hero?
ancient oasis
Got it thanks
broken egret
@spare seal blade on shem, call on tasi, others don't matter as much I would say, I generally use eye on Arden when he's in my team and put grace on nem/lyca and drape on brur
west iron
dark kayak
Still cant figure out the best lineup for this one ive gotten close
oblique phoenix
Do you think it'd be better to get Tasi straight to ascended or get Nemora to Mythic so my crystal is all mythic?
broken egret
@oblique phoenix how close are you to hitting level cap? I would say go for 5M units first
oblique phoenix
Pretty close, I still have to get Tasi and 1 other from 160 to 180
broken egret
Would get a 5th M than
So go for nem would be my call, especially since getting tasi higher ascension doesn't help her that much, nem benefits more from it since her ability scale with hp
west iron
yep will need 5 M to break pass 160 cap too
brittle summit
@copper moon who else can I use in place of Mehira (as I don't have her)?
south pier
This team bring me here, do you tthink it is best i can get, o is there some changes i should do for better change in progresing?
south pier
copper moon
@brittle summit Nemora or Nara
ancient oasis
Thought I was going somewhere
modest lintel
@broken egret are you still on 20-16? Stuck on that level atm.. lol
broken egret
@modest lintel yes I am, but I'm here intentionally, for 1 more day to try and farm gear
I can sent you the solution that works, but is quite rng
sullen badge
How can I be losing this so hard considering the levels?
broken egret
@modest lintel you can use this, make silv dash to tasi
pseudo hill
Any tips on beating this?
pale kettle
@lean ingot Uhhh.
Tasi
Brutus
Mehira
Shemria
Lyca/Nemora
lean ingot
oki
pale kettle
Build Up arden btw
lean ingot
Got shitted on
pale kettle
You got a shemira 180 while the enemy is 164. do you even put gears on her
lean ingot
Yes I do
ashen schooner
Why are you putting supports in front.
Especially one that halves her own health in the beginning of the battle.
lean ingot
Ok halp me
ashen schooner
Tasi/Rosaline
Brutus
Arden/Mehira
Lyca
Shemira
worldly totem
Hi can you guys give me any ideas.
lean ingot
Why lyca in front first off .p
ashen schooner
You only need her for Haste.
pale kettle
He has no gears. Just look at the power difference and their levels
devout berry
20-16
ashen schooner
Nemora
Lucius
Arden
Lyca
Saveas @worldly totem
Might not work, need another tank.
worldly totem
@mei i have brutus at 121.
ashen schooner
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Nemora @devout berry
civic canopy
Any tips?
lean ingot
Mei halp
ashen schooner
Ah @worldly totem Just test out the one I sent a few times, then if it still doesn't work do
Lyca
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
lean ingot
ashen schooner
I literally
Just sent you a lineup
@lean ingot
Tasi/Rosaline
Brutus
Arden/Mehira
Lyca
Shemira
Do it multiple times.
@civic canopy Do you have Arden
west iron
lean ingot
Mei that shit not working
west iron
have a look at the video?
wicked island
@lean ingot probably means you're underleveled. Try again when your characters are higher level.
Nothing she can do for you atm.
supple condor
civic canopy
@ashen schooner yes
dark kayak
Any ideas? F2p alt acc little stuck
civic canopy
Any tips?
indigo jolt
@civic canopy Arden in for Nemora.
ashen schooner
@civic canopy Try
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
ancient oasis
Stuck. Feel close but it's no enough rng
ashen schooner
@ancient oasis Who does Silvina jump to?
I'd probably say try
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
pale kettle
can someone please help with 20-34? warek is too op
ashen schooner
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi @pale kettle
Might take a little while but it may work out.
Don't worry if Lyca dies fast either, she's only needed for Haste.
pale kettle
mei i love you thank you!!! just passed it!!
ashen schooner
Congrats!! 🙂 @pale kettle
ashen schooner
@west iron Do you have Arden?
west iron
Yes
ashen schooner
I believe I did
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Nemora
Arden
Some of them may be interchangeable though, if you'd like to put Lyca in front instead of Nemora that could probably work too.
We just want to CC them to all hell.
@west iron
west iron
Okay thanks, I'd give it try
pale kettle
Need some help on 20-19 please
ashen schooner
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shemira @pale kettle
Make sure you move gears if you need.
pale kettle
Thanks!
west iron
Thanks! it worked
next mist
Which graveborns other then shemira are worth investing in for 160+
west iron
ferael, grezhul, thoran main 3 late game. Baden and nara are pretty nice too if you can get them
next mist
I am one away from ledgends+/mythic ferael and kelthur but need 2 for Baden and grezul 😑
Is kelthur worth ascending as well?
ashen schooner
He can be.
But Grezhul is better for progression, Baden for Guild Hunting. I'm not too sure about Kelthur.
next mist
Right now I'm running shemira tasi for DPS and thought kalthor would help snowball fights but perhaps he is redundant.
north aspen
Is this just a matter of not being leveled enough.? I’m ripping my hair out over here
pallid lake
@fair igloo show a ss of the stage you’re on as well, so we can see what we’re working against
ancient oasis
For what ever reason. Everything I try gets slaughtered. Silvia switches who she goes after but mainly she attacks upper left or Arden but here are the pics again
ashen schooner
@fair igloo Who does she jump on, old man or witch girl?
@ancient oasis Try replacing Nemora with Tasi.
fair igloo
Old man, I was trying to keep her off the witch long enough for her to do some damage. It didn't work.
ashen schooner
Well, let's try this.
Saveas (your blue guy first row)
Hogan
Arden
Ulmus
Mirael @fair igloo
Reset the rest of your heroes. (Vedan, Estrilda, Ira, Ankhira, Thoran)
You can use those resources to level up your carry above the others for more damage. It is a general rule to keep only 5 top heroes leveled, and using the rest in the Resonating Crystal.
As some help, you can check the pinned messages of this channel to see a document that explains how to structure a team that works for you.
fair igloo
I'm gonna argue against resetting Thoran?
west iron
thoran is alright but unless you get more copies to ascend him he's capped at like lvl 100 I think for E. He's not that great early game and is more late game too
ancient oasis
@ashen schoonerno dice 🥺
fair igloo
Hnnnnope Sword Lolita still punked me. I'll just have to wait it out.
Thanks for trying to help, though, @ashen schooner
white ravine
What is my current best soren lineup?
jolly wolf
@white ravine Lucius, Baden, Shemira, Rosaline, and maybe Nemora or Lyca. I think you might need Nemora atm to keep your team alive and topped off ( I personally use Rowan, you can consider using him too since it'd give you faction bonus)
west iron
@white ravine I would maybe try lucius baden in the front with shemira belinda and rosaline in the back.
fierce kayak
@past geode use nemora to charm ferael always
west iron
their lucius is op plus rosaline will probably give lucius energy for extra shields as she follows highest power rating
past geode
Nemora is L.
Yes I really screwed up on a few places but I wish myself so much luck after this chapter so I can start ascending things
So, anyone? Thanks very much
plain tundra
Need help! I’m stuck at 14-37 for quite awhile 😭
jolly wolf
@plain tundra I get the feeling that you can't put Shemira there because she's going to get obliterated, seems like Brutus in Shemira's spot is a better idea since I think that spot has to deal with Shemira, Vedan, and Isabella
stable mason
I have no idea what I can do to beat this stage
jolly wolf
@stable mason can your Shemira tank Grezhul fine? I get the feeling she might be able to if you have good enough gear, if she can you can replace Ulmus with her and then put Tasi on your team. Put Nemora in the top back slot and hope that she charms Mirael at the right time so that Mirael shields one of your teammates instead
past geode
N9 on a roll
jolly wolf
@past geode sorry still looking over yours lol, i think you can't have a elite tasi tank brutus or Lyca tank Golus, Golus does too much damage and ignores a lot of the dodge
past geode
Yeah I sent a picture of my roster so that should help more.
Have plenty of gear and it's not so bad just don't know who to stick it on
jolly wolf
@past geode I think if you're going to pull someone with Nara, pull Ferael instead since his energy sapping ability is much more of a problem, as such, you'll need to use Nemora instead of Rowan. Maybe give that a few tries and see if your progress improves. If not, maybe use Brutus in Lyca's spot and then replace Nara with Lyca.
fierce kayak
@past geode what does charm ferael has to do with nemora L?
@plain tundra you can reset Sav to 140/141 and level Shem 180 before leveling others. I like 4 Wilders against GB but since you don't have Tasi.. you can try position 1 to 5: Shemira Lyca Nemora Arden athalia
past geode
Her stats would be low and not have enough time to charm
jolly wolf
i don't think ascension affects charm speed, MSPD (move speed) might but I don't think Nemora gets more MSPD as she gets ascensions, only from gear and signature item (maybe)
fierce kayak
@past geode she still charms buddy. That's the beauty of Wilders. Low ascension still works like magic. And L nemora is more than enough
plain tundra
@jolly wolf i think you’re right! Brutus doing great in that spot! How should i work with my backline?
past geode
So not in order but Brutus shemira nemora Nara and rowan/?
jolly wolf
@plain tundra you can try Shemira in Lucius's current spot and see if that works first, give it a couple of tries and see how it goes
molten lance
jolly wolf
@past geode you can try that, I'd still suggest using Tasi over Rowan for more consistent CC, you don't need that much healing from Rowan if you have Nemora, and the Rowan CC isn't that useful (imo) in this situation
fierce kayak
@molten lance I did this with 1 to 5: lyca Shemira Nemora Arden Tasi. But need lots of tries and RNG
past geode
Nemora.
Tasi
Nara
Brutus
Shemira
But it's not working
Nara can't grab farael if she's not backline
lethal rivet
any suggestions?
ashen schooner
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca @lethal rivet
Hopefully your Arden can get root off before theirs.
past geode
Still struggling here, but np.
lethal rivet
he dies right before he can root every time even with mythic boots and horn
stable mason
@jolly wolf That did the trick. Uno mas?
jolly wolf
@past geode try fitting Arden in there instead of Nara? I know that might require you to change up your crystal, but if you're ok with that, it might be worth a shot since Arden's CC will take care of more enemies at once
fierce kayak
@lethal rivet or you can try 1 to 5: lyca Shemira Nemora Arden tasi
past geode
N9 I have tasi arden nemora shemira Brutus. And to no avail it's not working for me.
lethal rivet
arden gets interrupted before he can root and nemora gets rooted before she can charm
jolly wolf
@past geode which team gets you the closest to beating that level?
@stable mason do you have an Arden? you might want to use one to root Khasos + Angelos
past geode
I really don't know anymore now. @jolly wolf
stable mason
I don't, used one to upgrade Ulmus :(
jolly wolf
@past geode oy, I think if you had a high level belinda, you could run Lyca, Rosaline front Nemora/Tasi, Rowan, Belinda back, i'm not sure if this will work so well with Shemira in Belinda's spot since it won't have faction bonus
past geode
Nice thought. But I'm trying to be f2p and not a single Belinda in sight
jolly wolf
@stable mason what's the wilder hero below Nemora? in the battle screen
@past geode well it's worth trying to see how it goes, maybe Lyca in top back with Brutus in front can work too but i doubt it
stable mason
@jolly wolf
fierce kayak
past geode
So how would that order be n9?
fierce kayak
@lethal rivet^
jolly wolf
@stable mason maybe try Lucius/Estrilda front (maybe swap the two), Rosaline, Belinda (or Shemira), and Lyca/Nemora backline
pale kettle
Any ideas on best Soren team?
clear saddle
@pale kettle Get baden in your crystal. Then you can run: Baden, Lucius Nemora Saveas and Belinda maybe? or swap belinda for twins
Baden is super good for guild hunt in general
jolly wolf
Shemira might be better for Soren though since Belinda (i think?) has faction disadvantage against Soren
lethal rivet
@fierce kayak definitely lasting the longest but my nem cant seem to charm arden before i get rooted
clear saddle
I mean, i'm only recommending belinda so that she can buff the saveas. which is why twins is also an option
copper moon
@lethal rivet try stronger boots or call to make Nemora faster
lethal rivet
@copper moon she has +3 mythic boots and call
fierce kayak
@lethal rivet maybe need M boots or you just keep trying for RNG
copper moon
@lethal rivet she should be faster unless enemy has Lyca and you don't
past geode
I'm so confused. I made it through to this chapter fine. Now I'm losing.
past geode
Best artifact for shemira ? Nemora? Tasi? Brutus? And Arden. I found that team in 17-40 YouTube video
lethal rivet
definitely the closest ive gotten, gonna keep retrying and hope its enough
past geode
I'm going to try the team out but I wanted to know what goes on who
half egret
Any advice for this stage? I just get wrecked by hogan.
hard lark
Best line up suggestion for massive damage to soren anyone?
half egret
haughty vigil
12-38 help please
copper moon
@haughty vigil try swapping Mehira and Tasi
dire idol
@half egret try nemora sav and arden in the back, brutus and lyca in the front
brutus in front of hogan and lyca in front of the other guy
shell hamlet
copper moon
@shell hamlet
Try
Twins
---- Brutus
Athalia
---- Saveas
Belinda
pale kettle
Any way to win this with this team? I cant seem to get it completed
copper moon
@pale kettle
Try
Nemora
---- Antandra
Twins
---- Brutus
Gwyneth
cloud ermine
Need some help any tips on my lineup for this one?
copper moon
@pale kettle
Try
Gwyneth
---- Brutus
Nemora
---- Antandra
Twins
shell hamlet
@copper moon ?
past geode
......L M F A O.
copper moon
@cloud ermine
Try
Rosaline
---- Brutus
Tasi
---- Lucius
Belinda
@shell hamlet
Try
Belinda
---- Brutus
Safiya
---- Saveas
Lyca
pale kettle
@copper moon no luck. Any units that could work?
shell hamlet
@copper moon lyca kind of immediately dies
copper moon
@pale kettle
Try
Gwyneth
---- Brutus
Arden
---- Antandra
Nemora
@shell hamlet
Try
Athalia
---- Brutus
Saveas
---- Belinda
Shemira
rocky crescent
21-52, tried tons of combos and just get ran through so quickly
tawny night
Can anyone help? My guys dying too fast
copper moon
@rocky crescent
lone maple
16-40 help please? 😭
rocky crescent
@copper moon no rowen, sadly
copper moon
@rocky crescent Mehira?
rocky crescent
Not a single dark hero
ashen schooner
Nemora/Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira @lone maple
Could also try swapping Shemira and Arden as long as your Arden roots first.
balmy hinge
brittle maple
Tower 210 any thoughts?
pale kettle
Need help on 20-27 please. I do have an E+ arden
worthy island
Need help
copper moon
@pale kettle
ember bane
@copper moon need line up 21-26 ty
clear saddle
@pale kettle You need to use arden instead of athalia, need arden to root the tasi every time and have your shem silence her so you dont get banished.
nocturne gazelle
Cureently running: Sav Luc + Tasi Nem Lyca or Hogan Luc + Sav Fawk Lyca/Nem depending on map. Should I put Shem into Stone along with Belinda? Or keep her out and just wait until I do resets for pentagram? Or should I start using her since I can get her to 140 vs 120 Sav
round needle
Do you ever need skreg in a line up or is he considered fodder
jolly wolf
@round needle skreg isn't that useful at the moment imo, there's talk of buffing him but it hasn't happened yet
round needle
Ok I'm going to use him as fodder then. Thanks @n9
teal glade
I've ran 1 attempts timer down. My issue is how bs tasi charn uptime is on shem coupled with nemora healing. Been trying lyca tasi arden lucius shem in my best runs. Tried swapping around to handle this nemora but she takes 0 dmg
minor spade
So yeah my current lineup is this due to my factional advantage. I'm still somewhat a noob in general and I do know I need help on whom I should have out there and leveled up.
low lynx
Anyone can help? 21-60
unreal storm
Help would be great
dark kayak
Any ideas? Just pulled lucius not sure if i should use him or not
brittle maple
Lucius is great especially if you can get him to higher ranks
ionic jackal
@dark kayak go for that faction formation bonus early to gain more damage, use athalia instead of shemira for now. And yeah Lucius is one of the best tanks in the game
dark kayak
I just meant for this battle since hes only 75 atm :/ and okay ill try it
So Athelia - Lucius -> Tali - Brutus -> Saveas?
dark kayak
He cant thats the problem his ult isnt proccinng bc he gets melted
void dock
@low lynx
Nemora/tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus/warek
Tasi / nemora
@unreal storm
Where do u put dura call bruh?
unreal storm
@void dock arden
void dock
Give it to tasi @unreal storm
And givw dura eye to saveas...
Hopefully it can change the situation
ionic jackal
@dark kayak have some retries and try some different ways to make that happens, ex: put athalia in the middle to interrupt khasos dps (if he doesn't get banished), or put better gear on him. If all fails then back to hogan
high lantern
Am I just underleveled?
void dock
Actually no for me @high lantern
But if u use saveaz for your carry its gonna be lot easier...
high lantern
7-40
severe solar
@jolly wolf finally past 24-60 used tasi Lyca front nemora fereal and Shemira in the end taken a good 100th trys . Thank you for help 🙂
high lantern
Running pure lightbringer on the alt @void dock
void dock
@severe solar 100 tries?? 
severe solar
Attempts 🤣
void dock
Yeah i know..
So RNG does matter right @severe solar
severe solar
Oh yes just got to find the right position for each hero and wait for rng to kick in
void dock
Are u on 220 crystal @severe solar?
And about the ferael, is he on ascended lvl ?
dense ivy
dark kayak
@ionic jackal Athalia in the middle worked thanks man 🙂
lone maple
@ashen schooner that helped me beat 16-40 ty ty!
jolly wolf
@severe solar nice grats
pale kettle
stuck 8-20
broken egret
Ideas for 20-19?
severe solar
@void dock lvl 269 so far and ferael still weak only started working on him lately
@broken egret have you tried tasi Brutus front nemora Lyca and Shemira back in that order try it 5 times see how it goes if not try Shemira in front with brutos on both positions
broken egret
@severe solar doesnt work since shem can't Frontline VS ira/khasos nor VS ogi/Kaz and tasi front gets legit 1 hit by ira
winter blade
put Belinda where lyca is 🤷 might work
broken egret
Nah doesn't work either
winter blade
@broken egret Try
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora
Brutus
unreal storm
This level is really pissing me off, any help would be great, I hate silvina so much
ashen schooner
@unreal storm Who is she jumping to?
unreal storm
First Tasi, then straight to Arden
winter blade
Switch tasi and brutus?
unreal storm
I have the horn the eye and grace
severe solar
Does not matter where you switch tasi too Silvina will go for weakest mage all the time
broken egret
@indigo jolt do you still have the solution for 20-19?
ashen schooner
That's fine. We'd rather her go straight for Tasi first.
Does Tasi survive and ever have time to ult? @unreal storm
unreal storm
lol no
ashen schooner
Put Call (horn) on Tasi, Eye on Saveas, Grace on Brutus or Lyca.
unreal storm
thats what im using now
ashen schooner
Alright. Just try swapping Arden and Tasi then we'll go from there.
plucky flint
Anyone use a 4 wilder lineup on 21-60? Or anything a little less obvious than straight meta shem/brutus frontline?
ashen schooner
I mean, they're the easiest to win.
I did 4 Wilder though.
The same lineup as well, but with E+? Arden I believe.
unreal storm
@ashen schooner didn't work
plucky flint
K thx. It’s one of those levels where it’s a little hard to tell which lineups will ultimately give me the best chance. @ashen schooner
ashen schooner
So Arden doesn't get his root off?
Does he have the best mage gear out of all of your heroes for sustain?
stone lynx
what should i fix?
broken egret
@stone lynx i think I would swap in tasi for Belinda if you have her
unreal storm
no luck there either @ashen schooner
dark kayak
Winnable?
ashen schooner
Just keep retrying. @unreal storm
dark kayak
Cant seem to figure out the best lineup to retry with
jolly wolf
@stone lynx yeah, this enemy lineup has irritating amounts of healing and CC, best to use Lyca and Arden if you happen to have one, if you don't have Arden, better just hope Nemora charms the enemy arden and causes him to root your enemies. You'll have to experiment with Lyca opposite Khasos or Brutus (I'd vote opposite Khasos). Make sure you gear Lyca with dodge gear
stone lynx
i have a legendary lyca
dark kayak
Still need help with that brutus boss stage
stone lynx
no good arden
jolly wolf
@stone lynx yeah I saw that, the issue is that you need to have enough dodge, which, at this point only comes from gear (you get some from signature items, but that doesn't come until mythic rarity). If you have decent dodge gear for Lyca (the boots are what provides most of it), she can likely dodge quite a bit of khasos damage. It's fine if you don't have arden. Just wait until Nemora charms Arden, but it'll take more tries that way
@dark kayak Athalia isn't going to do you a lot of good at this point, and especially not against a melee enemy, I would suggest putting a healer there if you have one or another damage dealer like shemira
stone lynx
@jolly wolf then who should be in my lineup?
jolly wolf
@stone lynx first, try just replacing Estrilda with Lyca
jolly wolf
grats! onto the next one
stone lynx
should i stick with this lineup from now on? @jolly wolf i haven't really thought about best strat when it comes to composition, i just slap together highest level heros
jolly wolf
@stone lynx it's pretty good, you'll ideally want to pick up a Brutus eventually because he can survive damage that Grezhul can't because Brutus gets an invincibility phase, but i think you're fine for now
stone lynx
@jolly wolf what do you think about this?
jolly wolf
try running it first, hopefully silvinas goes for Tasi and have either Lyca or Shemira tank Kaz, you REALLY need to get an arden sooner or later lol, even a rare+ Arden will be fine @stone lynx
pale kettle
Damn 20-30 5 wilder team is actually impossible to beat
jolly wolf
@stone lynx rule of thumb is to swap Nemora out for Arden, rarely you can swap Tasi out for Arden but yeah usually Nemora
stone lynx
damn, rip my lightbearers
lofty depot
cloud nexusBOT
pale kettle
Just started/returned to the game. Currently stuck at 5-20 and not sure what I should be doing.
turbid fern
Finally got the right RNG to beat 20-19 after 400 tries at least!
fathom nexus
Any suggestions?
strange bobcat
Any suggestions? Getting rocked
grave torrent
Any recommendations?
floral cargo
Help :(
strange bobcat
@floral cargo try brutus on bottom, and always keep saveas behind brutus. Throw Arden middle
blissful ridge
rose merlin
Any suggestions here? 18-40 is kicking my arse. I suspect it's just a afk and level up thing now...
floral cargo
They got double the power u got ofc afk and level up xD @rose merlin
rose merlin
Yeah. I've made it this far some how!
lone shale
So, any idea how to beat this?
floral cargo
Why u do u have nem at the front?
plucky flint
@strange bobcat reset your team except Brutus to 141. Use the resources to level shem to 180. Then level the rest evenly. You never need lucius with meta wilder-brutus-shem lineup. Build yourself an arden. Shem goes on the front line 95% of the time
strange bobcat
@plucky flint legit reset everyone? Lol
strange bobcat
@plucky flint and who should i level between the last 3?
onyx hinge
@blissful ridge swap ira with saveas or belinda with saveas
And then put rowan up top and saveas down behind lucius
floral cargo
Help me guys
@ashen schooner the best lineup’er come help xD i got some familiar heroes here
@clear saddle ? Can u help?
void dock
@blissful ridge
Can u show me your whole team?
blissful ridge
@void dock what do u mean ?
floral cargo
Nope we goes towards lucius then to brutus then shem
ashen schooner
He meant heroes I believe. @blissful ridge
void dock
Yeah thx mei
blissful ridge
ashen schooner
Congrats. 🙂
strange bobcat
@ashen schooner question for ya
ashen schooner
Yes? 🙂
strange bobcat
Pantsy told me reset all besides Brutus and shemira, then level the rest evenly. Who should i focus on when i level the other 3?
ember bane
21-37 Need line up ty
dense ivy
Halp pls
strange bobcat
@ashen schooner up 3 posts
iron kelp
14-37
ashen schooner
@strange bobcat Let me see the rest of your heroes please.
strange bobcat
ashen schooner
@ember bane Test this a few times.
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
strange bobcat
Sorry idk wtf just happened lol
ashen schooner
@dense ivy Try
Rosaline
Estrilda
Belinda
Lucius
Athalia/Lyca
strange bobcat
ashen schooner
@iron kelp Tried moving Arden to the middle backline? If that doesn't work after a few tries,
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
@strange bobcat Personally... I'd probably reset the Belinda and Lucius, get the Shemira to 181 if you can.
fathom nexus
Any suggestions are appreciated
ashen schooner
Then put the rest into the Lightbearers again after. @strange bobcat
strange bobcat
So just reset Belinda Lucius and leave the rest
ashen schooner
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira @fathom nexus
dense ivy
@ashen schooner Awesome it worked with Athalia. Thanks!
ashen schooner
@strange bobcat That's what I would do. You generally want to overlevel your damage carry above the others.
@dense ivy Congrats. 🙂
blissful ridge
@Mei could u help me ? since @void dock is offline
strange bobcat
Yea i fell like resetting tasi isn’t smart bc she will get one hit lol. Who should i put artifacts on? I have first 4 i believe
ashen schooner
Sure. Send me the enemy lineup and your heroes please. @blissful ridge
blissful ridge
okay ;
ashen schooner
Show me the list of what you have and who they are equipped on please. @strange bobcat
fathom nexus
@ashen schooner giving it a shot, Brutus os only E tho. Ty
strange bobcat
ashen schooner
@fathom nexus I'm hoping that even if he is lower, that the Last Gasp will let you get off some damage.
north pelican
Ch 20-26
Helpppppp
ashen schooner
@strange bobcat In your case, you could probably do
Call - Shemira
Eye - Brutus
Grace - Nemora
Drape - Tasi
fierce kayak
@north pelican try Shem 220, crystal 180. Use Wilders trio with Arden and Shem Brutus. Works better imo
north pelican
So reset Brutus and ferael?
blissful ridge
ok ! thanks !
tawny elk
Hey all. Just started a few days ago and i'm currently at 6-35. I don't want to focus on the wrong heroes early on so could someone take a look? Thanks 🙃
fierce kayak
@north pelican yes. Overlevel carry is better. Erm.. reset Farael > nemora > brutus.
You still need Arden. Don't give up on him yet. E+ is better than nothing
north pelican
Thanks sexy, illl give it a shot
ashen schooner
... 😂
strange bobcat
@ashen schooner there is where i made it. Ran out of gold 😦
fathom nexus
@ashen schooner took a few tries but managed, you're a beast ty
ashen schooner
@fathom nexus Congrats!
ashen schooner
Send. 🙂
strange bobcat
fierce kayak
@strange bobcat drop tasi. Nemora middle back charm farael. Maybe Arden top lyca bottom.
strange bobcat
Arden isn’t built. May have sacced him for M tasi 😬
ashen schooner
Do you have any copies at all of him?
strange bobcat
Rebuilding him currently
fierce kayak
@strange bobcat lesson learnt. Don't look down on Arden. Maybe Atahlia replace Arden to disrupt Shem or bell
strange bobcat
I know, i knew better but needed tasi to survive lol
fierce kayak
@strange bobcat E+ tasi can work even till chap 20+/-
north pelican
@fierce kayak hmmm tried shemira but she didn’t cut it for me but I made Brutus 220 and now I’m up 5 stages
Forgot about resetting ❤
fierce kayak
@north pelican ok.. as long as it works for you. But most of us overlevel Shemira even till she is 240. Just sharing.
But I guess Brutus A is certainly OP 🙂
north pelican
Yeah I was dumb and not never really leveled her sig item
Ferael is my carry right now.... his sig is at 21 LMAOOOOOO
strange bobcat
@fierce kayak nothing so far
fierce kayak
@strange bobcat not sure.. we normally did it with Arden. 🙂
strange bobcat
Lol yeah yeah i get it 😂 thank you I’ll keep trying
fierce kayak
G luck! 🤘
plucky flint
@strange bobcat I’d just run with tasi and lyca. Key is middle back nem. Reset if she doesn’t land the charm on ferael. You’re gonna hate every ferael stage for a while, fyi.
clear saddle
@plucky flint I dont think it works so well with tasi because the ferael gets banished iirc
Which is why most of the people sub her out for arden instead on that stage
fierce kayak
@plucky flint @strange bobcat
Tasi banish Farael and Farael can't be charm.
But I do know 1 or 2 guys miraclely pass the stage with both tasi and nemora.
But most pass it with just nemora the key to charm Farael.
You can try as whichever you like.
turbid fern
Is my team right for 20-21 please?
pale kettle
whats the best team i can make
strange bobcat
@plucky flint @fierce kayak already at 16-24 lol thanks for all the help guys
Mei i can’t find your @ lmao but thank you
loud sapphire
Stuck on this for days, not even a boss 😢
ashen schooner
@strange bobcat Congrats my friend. 🙂
Nara/Athalia
Hendrik
Rosaline
Lucius
Shemira @loud sapphire
crystal knoll
can someone help me with my comp
ashen schooner
Might not work but maybe 4 faction bonus with Athalia will.
loud sapphire
Will give it a go thanks
crystal knoll
serene basin
18 40,ideas
crystal knoll
i have hogan brutus front
that healer
shermia
and saveas
ashen schooner
Nemora/Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca @serene basin
@crystal knoll If you're looking for help with a level, please send a picture of the enemy lineup.
crystal knoll
oh im just trying to have a basic team!
ember bane
@ashen schooner Shemira asleep twice by enemy Tasi and Arden tasi dies quickly
crystal knoll
@ashen schooner im a beginner.. just like a basic comp for starters you know? 🙂
ashen schooner
I'd say a good starting lineup is Hogan Brutus front, Shemira/Saveas as your carry (pick which, Saveas is better early), Nemora Arden as backup. @crystal knoll
worldly totem
I cant seem to beat this.
ashen schooner
@ember bane Try swapping Tasi and Shemira placement.
Then if that doesn't work, swap out the Tasi for your Nemora.
May need to see your Artifacts as well.
@worldly totem Who gets jumped on by Silvina?
worldly totem
@ashen schooner tasi
crimson bloom
What am I doing wrong?
ashen schooner
Tried switching Nemora to Arden? @worldly totem
@crimson bloom First, I'd like to direct you to our #classic-questions channel, go to the pinned messages and read the PDF regarding ascensions for heroes.
crystal knoll
@ashen schooner thanks! appreciate it
ashen schooner
@crimson bloom Is there any direct question pertaining to your lineup vs a specific stage?
worldly totem
@ashen schooner yes but it dosent work
crimson bloom
I use Belinda, tasi, thoran, lucius and rosalie and have been stuck for days have tried switching but no luck I'm currently on 14-25
ashen schooner
@worldly totem You should put in Arden, make sure Tasi still gets to be the one jumped on. Maybe even try swapping Lucius and Lyca placements.
@crimson bloom Send me the stage and I'll try to help.
crimson bloom
ashen schooner
Call - Shemira
Blade - Brutus
Eye - Lyca
Drape - Arden
Chalice - Tasi @ember bane
@pale kettle Have Arden?
serene basin
@ashen schooner so that combo dies even faster,
serene basin
lol
nope, slightly better, but arden got one shot by shemira, and the ogi throws lyca into shemira, and stuns her, then arden ccs, and then shemira ccs my shemira, so nothing
ashen schooner
Have to be able to have enough good gear on the Arden to survive a Shemira shot before Tasi banish, then root their Arden. @serene basin
ember bane
@ashen schooner all of it same Shemira can use main skill once and fall asleep rest all die and shemira can't kill single of the enemy
clear saddle
Any ideas? Or just more rng?
ashen schooner
Okay how about this.
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Pretty sure this was the initial lineup I sent you. This time, make sure that your Arden can root Ulmus and others before death. @ember bane
@clear saddle Honestly... should be fine with RNG. Which is this?
clear saddle
kings tower, floor 262
crimson bloom
@ashen schooner
worldly totem
@ashen schooner thank you it worked:)
clear saddle
@crimson bloom think you need your belinda bottom to kill the saveas quickly. maybe put thoran bottom too? see if he can tank better than lucius
ashen schooner
Arden
Shemira/Brutus
Lyca
Brutus/Shemira
Nemora @clear saddle
pale kettle
clear saddle
@ashen schooner Alright, i'll give it a couple hundred tries
pale kettle
Help
ashen schooner
Ah sorry @crimson bloom Got lost in the sauce of replies.
Try replacing Rosaline with Nemora.
Tasi
Thoran
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora @crimson bloom
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Lyca @pale kettle
orchid egret
Hi, ive been stuck a few days in campaign and i wanted to get some advices
ashen schooner
@orchid egret You can send the enemy lineup and a screenshot of your heroes in here. 🙂
orchid egret
ashen schooner
Nemora
Hogan
Belinda
Estrilda
Saveas @orchid egret
orchid egret
Okay thanks!
faint tiger
any advices?