@limpid pewter Yes, occasionally you can frontline lyca against ogi or estrilda so that Sav isnt knocked back/slammed.
#lineup-help
indigo jolt
turbid fern
@indigo jolt I've passed 17-40! Thank you so much!
limpid pewter
Thanks , i just wasnt confident saveas could carry me much further , i need shem desperately effed up with lab tokens to buy skreg oooooof
abstract shuttle
Nothing I do is working for 20-39
golden stone
22-8 is kinda kicking my ass right now
Wish I had a way to keep Tasi permanently CC'd, but she phases my Shemira at exactly the wrong moment every time
wet sonnet
20-30, keep getting destroyed
sand kindle
@wet sonnet common lvl. Just use 1-5: brutus lyca, shem Arden nemora. Roll till u win. Shem - call, brut - sword
chilly prism
Any ideas? Just cant break through. I have qn empty crystal slot
indigo jolt
@chilly prism What floor? i may have ss
chilly prism
70 lightbearer
unreal storm
high lantern
Need help 20-44 I can charm saveas get both tasi and shemira ult off but warek keeps one shoting shemira after she ults for a few seconds
indigo jolt
@chilly prism
sand kindle
@high lantern try 1-5: thoran brut athalia Isa shem. Give brut hp or goblet he must live till ult
high lantern
Thoran brutus top then from left to right athalia Isa and Shemira?
indigo jolt
Athalia
Thoran
Isa
brutus
Shem
@high lantern
high lantern
Gotcha thanks u2
Nope didnt work my thoran and Isabelle too weak probably my team gets wiped besides shemira
abstract shuttle
@sand kindle what did you use for 20-39? Your comps help me a lot
shell grail
Im getting nuked 😂
wicked island
if thats the case, use duras tears and get everyone full energy
indigo jolt
@shell grail Try
Tasi
Brutus
Kaz/Lyca
Shem
Nemora
twin hound
Any suggestions?
Lightbearer tower
Wait nvm. Someone just asked the same question above lol
indigo jolt
Yeah, not sure if L+ Belinda can carry though.. instead of A.
twin hound
Was hoping Estrilda and thane could carry, l+ Belinda gets shredded by silvina
indigo jolt
My setup was reliant on Belinda getting ults asap. Rnging out the rest.
Who does Fawkes coffin?
twin hound
Shemira
indigo jolt
How does Ros work in that comp btw? with either Estrilda or Thane dashing.
Would probably drop for Rowan if you have crystal spot.
violet pawn
twin hound
Rosaline follows Estrilda since I have better mythic gear for her. Don’t have any Rowan copies unfortunately
indigo jolt
Maybe try
Fawkes
Lucius
Estrilda
Ros
Thane
@violet pawn Show rest of roster?
With what shown try
Thane
Hogan
Numisu
Brutus
Sav
wind radish
Should I use my scrolls to pull light for Lucius or death for shemira?
bitter shadow
twin hound
Man fareal just shreds lightbearers, it’s not even fair
turbid fern
Any idea for 18-4 please ?
indigo jolt
@bitter shadow Currently i would say
Belinda Safiya Rosa, Hogan Grez/Ezizh.
But you may be better of trying to work on a Saveas carry to replace belinda and an arden for your crystal.
@turbid fern
abstract shuttle
This the team that gets me the closest but still get CC’d to death.
indigo jolt
@abstract shuttle Drop lucius for arden?
indigo jolt
I would remove Skreg,Vurk from your crystal.
Reset Rosa, and level up an Arden, start making towards e+.
Then add Lyca Fawkes to your crystal.
turbid fern
@indigo jolt Thanks but this may not work unless I reset some heroes to accommodate their levels/defenses rate
indigo jolt
@turbid fern Can you Tasi survive being the target of silv?
turbid fern
She can take one hit but then depends of RNG to TP elsewhere but then silv gangs shemira up with Hogan. That's where she dies
indigo jolt
Try
Tasi
Brutus
Nem/Arden
Lyca/Shem
Shem/Lyca
turbid fern
Ok
abstract shuttle
@indigo jolt Lucius knocks down Kaz and Ulmus so Estrilda can give the 100 energy and attack buff
stoic river
Hey I’m 6 days into the game and from what I’ve been told I’ve been pretty lucky with pulls, any recommendations for lineups with these units? Currently stuck on chapter 7
Also feel free to add me if you’re friends list isn’t full hehe ^
ivory swan
Ay tips for Soren?
violet pawn
@indigo jolt ty
ivory swan
@stoic river You've been insanely lucky with pulls, post your stage, and I can help. At work rn give me a few hours. I'll msg you what I can do
indigo jolt
@stoic river I would drop Morvus from your crystal and add in Lyca.
Make Arden with your wilder rares in the future.
stoic river
Oh sweet, and ok will do. And ok lost I actually just removed someone from my crystla cuz I never use em but gotta wait 12 more hours hehe
6-28 actually, not quite chapter 7
turbid fern
@indigo jolt It worked! Thank you 🙂
serene basin
Any ideas I'd like tk beat the chapter with in the next two hours to use scrolls on Wilders, I'm like 5 stages from finishing 17
indigo jolt
@serene basin
serene basin
@indigo jolt what does that mean/how'd you do that?
indigo jolt
@serene basin Victory screen shot, you click the little bar in bottom right for stats.
Order going down is positions 1-5.
serene basin
Yeah I got that, but I meant how'd you get those stats from the same level I'm on with out me telling you XD
indigo jolt
Confused? I took a screen shot when i ran it ages ago.
serene basin
Oh, okay now that makes sense, I thought there was an in game thing where you could go back and try any stage
mossy scroll
vital lagoon
high lantern
Any tips for 20-52
mossy scroll
@clear saddle
paper wadi
any ideas?
wise perch
How can this die? I was with Icebringer and Firebringer
plush kelp
16-40 help pls
still oar
@plush kelp think you have it right just need rng so Arden roots kaz and Arden. But you try swap tasi with nemora and try charm ogi
@wise perch cleared with 220 carry and 180 crystal I think. Don't remember the comp
still oar
My resonating crystal was 180
vernal berry
Need help because im here for week
still oar
Hol on maybe I have an SS
vernal berry
Okay
frank canopy
Stuck on 16-40, should a switch it up for work for rng?
steel moat
@vernal berry athalia was the way to go for me :')
still oar
@vernal berry
steel moat
@frank canopy i believe that is the optimal positioning for that level, i wonder how shemira would do in lyca's position, you could try switching her to the front since the hope is that nemora charms nemora, who charms ogi, or that arden roots ogi to take the damage off of her
frank canopy
@steel moat Thanks, I'll give it a shot!
plush kelp
@still oar ty
high lantern
20-54 need some help here
abstract shuttle
What’s the best Wrizz team i can do?
high lantern
Twins baden shemira Rosa and lucius is a nice comp @abstract shuttle
lone shale
So, who can help me conquer chapter 17? How far can I go?
abstract shuttle
@high lantern that’s the best I’ve done but twins die to fast. Who can I replace them with? Belinda/Raine?
high lantern
Belinda for you atm since she's myth + vs elite raine but honestly I'd get a second opinion on it
abstract shuttle
Belinda got me to 45M... but yea twins would be so much better
indigo jolt
@lone shale You can reach ch 20 with those, if you have an Arden easy enough.
warm ginkgo
How should I go about this to defeat him?
lone shale
@indigo jolt only problem is my gear aint mythic or even legendary, let alone upgraded.
I also don't have enough magic unit items. Even if i somehow get enough Ardens to L+ him, I might not have enough items to help. I also feel a bit naked since lowering everyone back to 160
warm ginkgo
indigo jolt
@lone shale Probably only need M gear on Shem, and boots for one mage, and some odd stuff. BUt you can get most from faction towers and other stuff.
Generally setup,
Brutus SHem, Lyca arden/nemora tasi
lone shale
@indigo jolt that's all it takes? I only really need Lyca to grow to L+, but she takes forever to obtain while you see who I usually get in summons.
I'll see about building Arden soon, but I always thought he would wind up like Save as, dying quickly before even Vurk.
indigo jolt
@lone shale
Lyca can work at e or e+, her main benefit is haste/ energy. At hgiher ascensions she is a good damage dealer as well.
People run Arden all the way through to ch 22, even if not as often.
lone shale
Interesting. Well thanks for the advice, I'll try out Lyca, then hopefully build an Arden on the side.
feral goblet
Stuck on 19-6
warm ginkgo
Advice please?
indigo jolt
@warm ginkgo You dying to wrizz bomb or his dot?
devout berry
17-24
warm ginkgo
@indigo jolt whichever one involves him throwing out a bunch of gradual damage. I tried Nemora, Shem, Lucius, Rowen, and Kazz last time and got wiped
indigo jolt
@feral goblet
@warm ginkgo If you have shield up, then the dont want take effect. Other solution is to use someone with summons, i.e grez/baden/numisu totems.
@devout berry
warm ginkgo
@indigo jolt what is best with what I currently have?
indigo jolt
@warm ginkgo Cant see your full roster.
warm ginkgo
@indigo jolt any epic heroes I use will die immediately
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Would be tempted to try
Sav
Brutus
Eironn
Lyca
Nemora
@warm ginkgo You dont hav a kaz either? as you took her relic??
warm ginkgo
@indigo jolt
indigo jolt
Oof im blind...
Kaz
Lucius
Brutus
Shem
Nemora
Run manual, restart if kaz gets the dot, otherwise gradually use nem/lucius sheild.
feral goblet
@indigo jolt I need an Arden, it the vine trapping ability would help with the stage.
@indigo jolt what’s the formation look like? Who’s in the front and who’s in the back?
warm ginkgo
@indigo jolt ty
devout berry
@indigo jolt 🙌🏽
indigo jolt
@feral goblet Order goes down the pic, from pos 1 -5.
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
If setup, doesnt work you can search it is a fairly common wall.
craggy talon
Probably 200 attempts, came close once....
fierce kayak
@craggy talon you able to root?
craggy talon
@fierce kayak yea mines goes off before his
brittle maple
How do you deal with this middle finger of a team comp
fierce kayak
@craggy talon then should be fine. Can your Shem tank Brutus? Maybe try
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Lyca/tasi
Tasi/lyca
Else
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
brittle maple
I swear to god this Brutus is pissing me off lol
craggy talon
@fierce kayak yea, Ogi’s throw knocks Arden one hit then Lyca goes down quick after
@fierce kayak wow that worked first try, would have never thought to take out Brutus
fierce kayak
@brittle maple add tasi in if she banish Khasos.
@craggy talon which one work? 1st or 2nd? I am curious too.. haha
brittle maple
@fierce kayak she banishes the Brutus. Who do I take out?
frozen whale
Ur charm must land on enemy saveas
fierce kayak
@craggy talon ic. Ya.. this is one of the setup to counter ogi and his Wilders team. You can take note of it. Handy against GB too. Will face plenty later
Lyca off tank pushes ogi back, nemora charm and Arden root to buy time for Tasi/Shem ulti.
craggy talon
Notes, cheers
fierce kayak
@brittle maple you also have to position and switch around your heroes so that Vurk won't arrow your backline to death.
brittle maple
@fierce kayak I cant deal with a Brutus left at the end. His immunity means I die
frozen whale
U can use a suicidal Ath, Nara, etc one of the position swappers to pull enemy mid
Just in case u need to. At mid stages 4v5 is still viable with 2 main Tier Champs in your team build
indigo jolt
@brittle maple
fierce kayak
@brittle maple ya.. I understand. Need some RNG so that when Brutus spin.. he still spin on other heroes other than Shem. You can try lostD set up. Hopefully Brutus spin on tasi.
unreal arrow
Stuck on 11-16 with this comp
frozen whale
@unreal arrow
Saveas
Brutus
Nemo
Lyca
Shem
Swap gears around so that Kaz goes to shem but she has to take a hit or two and charm rng working
That or u can just dps away if u wait for higher lvls/gear 😆
brittle maple
Holy shit RNG was on my side and I killed him lol
frozen whale
If u have two strong mains u can ignore faction buffs still lvl180/200 ish
abstract shuttle
I can only get 10mil on Soren any better team I could do?
fierce kayak
@ancient oasis still to meta team friend. Wilders cc back
ancient oasis
@fierce kayaktried that fails but this team actually got me through
fierce kayak
@ancient oasis np, as long as it works for you. But meta works does work in mid game most if the time. Just need RNG and right position. G luck 🙂
ancient oasis
@fierce kayakthanks 😁
final star
@abstract shuttle Shem Baden Rosa Lucius Nem
plucky flint
21-37 is so annoying. Edit: just beat it with the pictured lineup, for anyone else that’s stuck here
marble bane
HELP!! willing to move things on my cristal if necessary!
abstract shuttle
Thank you @final star got me to 25M
still oar
@plucky flint we have different 21 37 👀
plucky flint
@still oar they changed it in the last patch. I think it’s harder now with morvus but not sure.
cedar canyon
Could use help here
Stating the obvious i tried the 5 gb comp once to see if shem could carry
Nvm beat it 😪
cedar canyon
How about 21-60 lmao
still oar
A sec
plucky flint
21-41? Edit: nvm. Beat this too.
main knoll
New to this game and I have no clue what champs are good or not. Would appreciate the help
charred juniper
Hello. I have 3 more spots in my resonant building. Which heroes should take those spots? Thanks
still oar
@charred juniper Baden for hunt, nara for CC
@main knoll put Arden on and saveas too. Use saveas as DD and Arden as CC
charred juniper
Thanks
wide breach
Before I fuck anything up and waste crystals resetting, just got Saveas to L+. Reset everyone else down to 120 and try to get him as close to 160 as possible? Or should I try to set my crystal to 121
still oar
Balance it @wide breach. Put the favour on saveas but if you could say 121 nemora then 121 nemora
121 makes excess heal becomes shield
wide breach
Maybe not nemora specifically but I can get a fifth lightbearer up to L since I have a ton of fodder for it. Maybe Belinda since you get a lot of free copies of her?
golden spade
Any help on 22-50?
still oar
@wide breach can you at least l+ Bel?
wide breach
Not yet :(, keep getting new heroes and not enough duplicates lol. Think I need to start doing LB pulls
still oar
If you can wait wait for dupes so your fodders won't be wasted on stuck at legendary heroes
wide breach
Yeah a bit awkward since my closest is probably Raine at 1 more copy. Just gonna sit on it for now
still oar
Yeah Raine is underwhelming
unreal storm
Any help here would be very appreciated
stone shard
I need advice, I’m still in the early stage where I need to take what I can get and at the moment I can ascend one of two cards, I have to chose between Niru or Silvina I was think Niru would be a good choice but I’d like a second opinion please 🙂
clear saddle
@unreal storm put your saveas bottom back, arden middle back and nemora top
real token
Anyone have some advice?
unreal storm
@clear saddle unfortunately that didn't get there, thank you for trying though!
wide breach
I think you need to try and fit in the 3 wilders somehow, maybe drop a tank. You might just be limited by your ascension levels tho
real token
Are you talking to me @wide breach?
wide breach
oh dakota sorry, for you id drop some damage dealers and put in supports
real token
Any specific recommendations?
wide breach
try benching warek and vedan, put in angelo and estrilda
also get your top 5 crystal heroes to level 100 at least, preferably 101
after that get your Saveas to 120
grim ingot
What can I do to make this work
wide breach
@real token also you have a bunch of heroes leveled up to the 90s I believe, the way this game works is you only want to level up main 5. Everyone else you use on the side put in your crystal. Or are those lab pickups?
real token
Its a lab fight. Anyone outside the main 5 are recruits I picked up
lean flower
How
fierce kayak
@real token next time just overlevel carry to max first. For ex Sav 120, rest 80. Then level tank next, last support. Try
Sav
Brutus
Estrilda
Lucius
Belinda
Or flip the entire formation upside down if nemora keeps charming
@lean flower
lean flower
Ty
high lantern
Floor 60 maulers help
wild meteor
@high lantern people generally do brutus khasos/vurk if their brut is m+
positioned in the same way you have brutus and khasos in that pic, just without the other units
high lantern
What do you recommend for the artifacts
sick ridge
Whts your wrizz and soren team?
I'm using shem, rosa, belinda, balden and lyka
any tips on improving them?
high lantern
Do you own the twins snapse
sick ridge
nope. only E
wild meteor
blade for brutus, call/eye on the other
leaden pelican
soren im using shemila rosa rowan warek lucius
high lantern
Try the same comp remove the lyca for twins
sick ridge
does warek really help?
leaden pelican
cuz he can make soren face >
high lantern
You could also remove Belinda for lucius if your sub 200
sick ridge
I have athalia also, Im at 220
high lantern
Thanks @wild meteor
leaden pelican
whats ur highest soren damage now
high lantern
My athalias only leg and I don't use her so I couldn't tell you how good she is @sick ridge
wild meteor
@sick ridge usually what i use
real token
Final boss of the lab. Would be my first lab win but I dont know where to start. A suggested lineup would be much appreciated.
high lantern
Can't dent the lucius wall is 180 khasos+lvl 200 brutus enough @wild meteor
wild meteor
@sick ridge permanent haste damage and energy regen on whoever's in front
real token
I took care of it no problem actually. Took two fights but I had enough heroes to widdle them down
granite blaze
Stuck on this for awhile now
sick ridge
Maybe i need to level baden up, or athalia can work also? She on mythic only tho but full mythic set
wild meteor
@high lantern takes quite a few retries doing it that way >.< brutus has to hit a few crits during the first spin, what's the gear on him?
@sick ridge get rid of lyca/belinda for better supports such as twins rowan estrilda, what you're doing right now is running 4 damage dealers with a single target support, not very efficient
high lantern
sudden sparrow
What @high lantern
high lantern
@sudden sparrow?
wild meteor
that's acceptable, you can also try warek behind brutus if you happen to have him
high lantern
Wareks e+ khasos is l+
sudden sparrow
Ah you're the on on floor 60, nvm
high lantern
Yeah
So what's the stratagy @wild meteor do I just leave ult on auto? Am I trying to kill a single lucius or the thane first
wild meteor
lucius first, just left it on auto until rng won
unreal storm
I've been stuck here for 5 days 11-40, any help would be appreciated beyond words.
high lantern
Ok I'll give it a go thanks
still oar
Think I used vurk Poison+whirlwind to kill a flank. After that it was lot easier
hasty night
M 180 khasos better tank or L 160 Brutus?
sick ridge
ok thanks! Ill try, baden seems good with both wrizz and soren? @wild meteor
still oar
Depends on the enemies' levels @hasty night. Typically 160 brutus is better because his 7s last gasp
ivory swan
So I just passed like 13-14 stages using Shemira and now I'm stuck lol, any ideas?
hasty night
Sigh. Can't roll a 4th Brutus ever
ornate totem
How??
ivory swan
junior zinc
Can some one help with 15-39
ivory swan
@ornate totem
Shemira
Brutus
Lucius
Arden
Belinda
Maybe?
@junior zinc
Estrilda
Lucius
Shemira
Belinda
Thane?
I can't see more hereos that's what I came up with
junior zinc
toxic flame
Please help I've been stuck so long
junior zinc
Thank you
hasty night
@ivory swan Arden instead of Belinda maybe, switch Lucius and shem
ivory swan
@junior zinc replace Thane with Arden
That might work, if that doesn't try lyca.
hasty night
So u have cc and a formation bonus
midnight coral
Dilemmas...I cant decide what to do here...
ivory swan
@hasty night Silv targets him right away
hasty night
Drop all of nemora armor and see if she gets her instead
toxic flame
Please any help would be greatly appreciated
ivory swan
@hasty night Nemora has a +500 def even without Armor.
hasty night
Hmm, maybe swap lyca or nemora for a Rosa. Rosa has a chance to Dodge silviana and can also boost shem
ivory swan
@hasty night I just get annihalted either way .-. my hereos die to quickly maybe have to wait a couple days and some more summons.
junior zinc
@ivory swan thank you it worked
ivory swan
@junior zinc your welcome, which formation did you use? ^^
junior zinc
arden on the bottom
ivory swan
@junior zinc I'm glad I could help ^^
hasty night
I got thru most of those with L Brutus, m+ Shem, l+ Tasi, l+ Arden, and e+ lyca. Sometimes swap a wilder out for nemora
junior zinc
Estrilda
Lucius
Shemira
Belinda
Arden
ivory swan
@junior zinc that should be able to get your through most stages, maybe switching Arden a few times.
junior zinc
ty
clear dagger
On early stage, L+ saveas as carry and L+ arden as cc is preferred
little citrus
sudden sparrow
Alth? Who that
mild wing
@bold oyster I would highly recommend taking a look at the pin in #classic-questions you are spreading yourself very thin on rushing heroes to ascended. COuld be a great read for you.
bold oyster
Fodders are the Legend tier heroes, right?
still oar
Yes
bold oyster
I'm trying to geta new L+ Mirael so I can ascend Hendrick
cinder gust
What team do I need use for this fight?
still oar
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca @cinder gust.
Charm ferael so he screams at his mate
fierce kayak
@wind mulch you might wanna read early game pinned notes at #classic-questions, top right 3 dots.
wind mulch
okidoki thanks ! 🙂
cinder gust
@still oar thanks will try that
fierce kayak
@wind mulch if you not using Savaes. Then I might reset heroes to make Shem 160. Reset roslaine and serius 120. Try
Rowan
Shemira (160)
Rosaline
Golus/Brutus
Belinda
Rest of info in pinned like Arden, overlevel carry, etc..
vernal quail
So, same issue as the other day. Still stuck at 20-30, but now my crystal is at 193 instead of 180.
pale kettle
best team to make?
rapid token
Level up Shemira to the Max? Or reset her and try to 161 all?
dark tundra
@rapid token maxed her out and use Shem+Brut and wilders(Arden tasi lyca nemora) at the back = gg meta. But if want to experiment use the maid too
rapid token
Alright thx a lot
restive socket
What’s my best shot here? Tried this team like 100’s time in diff formation. (16-40)
serene basin
@restive socket move shemira down a spot, do you have and arden, or maybe anthalia, if so swap out nemora but put anthalia acrros from arden
restive socket
i've tried shem on a lower spot and she never got to use her ult, but i will try with this e athalia maybe then it will work out
dark tundra
@restive socket best way is to charm nemora using your nemora and ardenvs Arden. While your Shem needs to kill Kaz first (maybe Shem can cos of sig) try this honey
Nem
Brut/lyca
Lyca/tasi
Shem
Arden
Try 4 wilders+Shem too to maximize the additional buffs if Brut can't manage the job
restive socket
@dark tundra oke, thanks!! will do
dark tundra
@vernal quail u too try to kill Kaz first using your Shem while using Arden as a support at the back. So try this
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Lyca/Brut
Nemora
I like u to use your fera but fera is good when he's 240+/220+ so try to use meta first while u progressing and building fera for much late game
hexed peak
Hello people, any tips on that level? It is 20-37
wise kestrel
hexed peak
Ok, let's try taking Nemora out again👉 .
bold carbon
@hexed peak frontline shem if she is well equipped. 220 shem can push for mid ch21
hexed peak
Lyca's dodge is doing a good job though it's just my shemira getting cced from enemy Tasi and then Silenced by enemy shemira
bold carbon
@hexed peak if you have nara you can try to use her for tasi
hexed peak
She is only e+ but can give her a try @bold carbon
bold carbon
Yeah its fine my nara is e+ too and i use her for tasi stages. She stops the initial banish + more if things go well
ivory swan
Any tips?
hexed peak
@ivory swan try fawkes insead of Lyca. That may help. Does your Nemora survive to cast at least a charm?
ivory swan
@hexed peak no she doesn't, my team almost get instantly annihalted.
hexed peak
@ivory swando you have a Brutus?
hexed peak
@ivory swan try lucius top, brutus bot, shemira-fawkes-belinda and tell me the results!
ivory swan
Silv targets Shemira, Lucius dies before getting ulti off then Brutus dies, then game. @hexed peak
hexed peak
Shemira dies instantly as well?
ivory swan
@hexed peak pretty much, half way to her ulti.
clear saddle
@ivory swan if you want to run wilders, you're going to need to use arden to root the kaz. this will allow ur shem to siphon her and deal a lot of damage. if the kaz doesnt get rooted your shem is gonna evaporate
ivory swan
@clear saddle That's if he can survive long enough but I'll try and manage, he dies before he can get his roots off
clear saddle
@ivory swan you dont have a tasi do you? damn
Maybe you can run Lucius Brutus front, Belinda Shem and Lyca back?
hexed peak
I think a brutus can tank kaz for long enough. I think the problem here is silvina..my thoughts! I find Silvina stages very annoying
ivory swan
I do have Ascension's but I'm not sure if any will be helpful.
last granite
How do I beat this? My shem is 218 and the rest are 180
clear saddle
Your rosa can tank the silvina, maybe run shem/belinda?
@last granite you run Lyca into ogi with arden behind her, this allows him to root first
last granite
@clear saddle okay will try it
clear saddle
@last granite maybe you need arden back middle? not sure if he can tank the shem hit.
ivory swan
@clear saddle that idea didn't work,Lucius dies to quickly.
last granite
@clear saddle arden dies too quickly (both in pos. 3 and 4), might be because he's only E+. I have all mythic gear on nemora, should I swap it to arden instead?
ivory swan
Shemira gets CC, she's not able to pull off her ulti until at least, Lucius, Brutus, and Lyca die.
clear saddle
@ivory swan Tasi would really be helpful here but maybe we'll have to think of something else.
@last granite you need your arden to root the enemy arden, thats all. does your arden have good boots? maybe you can try rng the dodge?
ivory swan
@clear saddle Haven't had Tasi pulls at all. One hero I haven't been so lucky with.
hexed peak
@ivory swan maybe a nara?
last granite
@clear saddle i'll try swapping arden's gear and swap nemora for fawkes/tasi
clear saddle
@ivory swan would it be possible to lower rosa's defense below ardens? then have her tank silvina? then maybe you can run brutus shemira rosa lyca and arden
@last granite yeah, defo need tasi for almost every stage, her ult + shem ult is basically the win condition. but you are super overlevelled btw lmao
220 shem is the requisite for clearing ch20 so maybe just getting her ult off will win you the fight
last granite
@clear saddle yeah I'm gonna try using tasi in comp and make her survive longer. Lol a lot of people told me that but I think my supports need a bit ascending
clear saddle
My crystal was 160 and all the heroes were L+, but the levels are a big help. you probably just need to rng it out. also if you want to still run with that comp in the picture, run shem into niru. shes gonna get toasted by the ogi
@ivory swan So the silvina targets your rosa first right? you need to put maybe lyca next to her? so that she can tank the silvina afterwards
ivory swan
@clear saddle Death Order ( With Lyca being next ) Rosaline, Lyca, Arden, Brutus Shem
The Eilv, and Mareal is what's killing my team.
clear saddle
@ivory swan I mean, things are super rough without tasi for you. her ult is what gives you time for your shem to ult/kill them all. so im still tryna think of what else could work
So right now are you running:
Rosa
Brutus
Lyca
SHem
Arden?
last granite
Woop nevermind just beat it with these. I swap tasi's gear to all mythic and put dura's call on her. Thanks for the help @clear saddle !
ivory swan
Hopefuly li can hire a Tasi and yes.
clear saddle
@last granite yeah, you'll want call on your tasi for the most part now. Blade on shem is what i run
ivory swan
@clear saddle
clear saddle
@ivory swan Man, you might just have to wait for more levels or a tasi sir, i really cant see a way around this silvina for now
ivory swan
@clear saddle Thanks for the help, you tried your best :) Hopefully a E Brutus will show up here soon.
clear saddle
@ivory swan last try i guess,
Rosa
Lucius/Brutus
Lyca/Fawkes
Brutus/Lucius
Belinda?
try 1 setup with 1 and another with a different? im kinda stumped right now lol
ivory swan
@clear saddle None of those combos work x.x
clear saddle
@ivory swan any closer? or is it a total massacre?
ivory swan
@clear saddle unfortunately tota massacre.
midnight crag
Any help on this?
unreal storm
Been here for 5 days, any help would be appreciated
midnight crag
Nvm, ended up beating it with some rng lol
clear saddle
@unreal storm tasi instead of khasos?
unreal storm
@clear saddle tried that already, khasos was actually an attempted solution after failing so many times with Tasi, but it hasn't worked either
ocean night
and you should consider putting, if you have one, a hypogean into the team just for the defense buff. In my case that helped a lot.
unreal storm
@ocean night I don't have any hypogean heros on this account
ocean night
i just meant in general.
pale kettle
Any help to get to the other side?
clear saddle
@pale kettle think you gotta clear the big camp?
proven gorge
use Brutus at Lucius' place and move Lucius bot
you could use some cc too, like Arden
pale kettle
Brutus is useless lol, he gets deleted and i don't have arden
proven gorge
Brutus should survive for some time vs Saveas thanks to his invincibility
pale kettle
His invisibility is 4 secs
proven gorge
does your Lucius lives longer? if so, ignore my advice, use Lucius
and you should make yourself an Arden, he is great at 141 lvl
pale kettle
I won omg, with everyone below 5% hp xD
paper wadi
any ideas?
gusty marlin
saveas down
saveas down, tass top, belinda mid, depending on how much your centaur survives i would put him instead of the reptile , take into consideration to use athalia against that mythic prick
(ardeas and lyca might also be good options to handle the mythic little shit , instead of belinde, try some setups)
paper wadi
ok ty
patent oak
Any help for my line up i play bilnd / lyca /faws / nem / luci
gusty marlin
As i advice everyone do labyrinth, get shemmira, that hero is just OP
solar rover
sterile lark
What would be the best lineup vs guild bosses?
modest rampart
What would be most optimal for just progressing through campaign/kings tower? 🙂
raw trail
@modest rampart i'd go with
Saveas
Grezhul
Twins
Nara
Shem
Someone else might have a better suggestion though
oak zephyr
Any tips on this one?
pale kettle
Help I keep losing
uncut sapphire
Need help for 18-40 please
naive crown
Stuck
mild wing
@pale kettletry putting saveas in front. Take out hogan and put in arden
thorn tapir
naive crown
That’s all the hero’s I got
south pier
pale kettle
@mild wing my team die faster lol
mild wing
@pale kettleteam I'd fine you are underleveled. Afk a bit and you'll be fine
pale kettle
stuck 7-28
last granite
@pale kettle try swapping nem and belinda position and also swap hogan and saveas position
narrow sigil
What comp did u use for23-10?
pale kettle
nope
last granite
@feral coral none, they're all ascended tier hero you shouod never fodder them
feral coral
I have a character to ascend one of them that is out of frame.
last granite
@pale kettle might wanna try these then
Saveas
Golus
Mirael
Hogan
Nemora/shemira/belinda
@feral coral right didn't see that before, then most likely fawkes since you can buy his copy in challenger store and he's easier to build for long term
clear saddle
@feral coral can you show your whole hero list?
clear saddle
@main knoll you can probably run brutus shem fawkes arden and hendrik maybe? Brutus and Hendrik frontline, rest backline
main knoll
@clear saddle I been running that except I had Numisu instead of Arden. Is Arden better?
clear saddle
Arden is much better, his root is actually straight up broken
dim token
Could i please have some help with 19-36
clear saddle
@dim token I'd probably run
Nemora (i presume she tanks the silvina?)
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
i think your ardens' defense is too low for this right? nvm u dont even have one yet lmao. he's quite useful but silvina is a problem
ionic jackal
@dim token have to keep retrying and hope for the best rng with what you have now, I also try to use eironn instead of nemora so silvina jump on tasi and his suck may open up to new favorable rng
pale kettle
forest hedge
need some help pls
clear saddle
@forest hedge Can your arden root first if you put your shem vs the kaz?
forest hedge
let me give it a try @clear saddle
naive crown
I hate slow mode
clear saddle
@naive crown show all your heroes too please? thanks
delicate trout
uuuhh that was so painfull
clear saddle
@naive crown you not planning on using shemira carry?
naive crown
I’m saving lab coins for more shem
clear saddle
Would've thought by now you would've had a more solid foundation than this...
naive crown
I’m just stuck with belinda carry for now, she works good. Got signature +9
delicate trout
@naive crown dude, did you have a chance to survive at least 5 secs if shemi use her ult? if so i have a plan
scarlet sphinx
Stuck 15-32
naive crown
It’s my main, first account. I’ve made mistakes
clear saddle
@scarlet sphinx you prefer belinda carry over shem? imo i think shem more reliable, has more sustain etc
scarlet sphinx
We talked ab this yesterday, she just seems to squishy, I put her frontline and she gets whomped every time
delicate trout
shemi can stack a lifeleeching ults, that's why she is better
clear saddle
@scarlet sphinx Theres no way shem should be squishier than belinda...
scarlet sphinx
I can’t kill anyone with her, she gets off an ult then gets pummeled to ground
naive crown
Can I uh, get help yet h
delicate trout
@naive crown maybe like this
nemo
luci
arden
lyca
beli
naive crown
Alright
weak nova
oh no..
delicate trout
ch-14 isa is so annoying tho, she has a shotgun to 1 shot everyone
weak nova
@scarlet sphinx Lucius and Rowan are a must if you want to use Belinda
She can't survive or take too long to ult without these 2
naive crown
Isabella is always annoying
scarlet sphinx
Okay @weak nova do you this Lucius is still reliable at elite+?
delicate trout
not for me anymore tho, silvi is more anoying now and ira
delicate trout
i agree, stop using luci when i enter ch-19, he is useless if not reach 220/A level
naive crown
@delicate trout tried that like, 7 times probably. Isn’t working
stoic grove
Need some help with my line up. One picture is what I'm using and the other is what I have. I am also working on getting enough points to buy another elite for nemora
bold carbon
@stoic grove usually before 161 people focus on building a saveas so you could try to build him. From lab store, it is advisable to focus on shemira since most people use her as a carry later on
For now stick with your team till you can build a saveas. Looks like you're gonna be level blocked soon becauses your heroes lack ascensions.
Maybe switch hogannwith gorvo for faction bonus and aee of that improves your team
brave dagger
what's a good 'budget' line up for Soren?
clear saddle
@brave dagger what heroes you got?
Baden, grez are super good. nem and lucius almost essential @brave dagger
brave dagger
clear saddle
Probably @brave dagger Saveas Lucius Nemora Belinda and Numisu maybe?
naive crown
Anyone else able to help me h
nocturne blaze
supple zealot
How do i do mauler 60??
clear saddle
@naive crown Put your belinda at the back top with arden middle back, you need to kill vedan first
limpid quail
@supple zealot i think someone here said high level warek (mercenary) will do it
clear saddle
@naive crown could give that a shot, lyca has faction advantage against vedan though, so experiment a lil
clear saddle
@naive crown yeah isabella is such a pain, especially with cc immunity whilst mind controlled
pale kettle
Do i have the chance to win?
sand kindle
@naive crown what stage is that? and what gear on belinda and on saveas?
clear saddle
@naive crown honestly those stages suck. there are so many priority targets. vedan and niru both have to die early but that's a tough one. it usually results in you 1v1ing niru and your belinda definitely cant do that
sand kindle
@pale kettle afk a lill and make ur saveas 120. That will help alot and save ur nerves
@naive crown ok what bout saveas?
pale kettle
@sand kindle i see x_x
alright thanks
pale kettle
Oh since we here, should i change my best 5?
worthy island
Is this even possible?
naive crown
If you level up
worthy island
Obviously? I meant with my team right now
naive crown
Too low I think
clear saddle
@worthy island its quite possible i think, A shem 200 should be enough. If you want your arden to root you're gonna have to take out athalia and use lyca instead and run her into ogi, maybe use arden middle back?
sand kindle
@naive crown try:
Belinda
Rovan
Arden
Lucius
Rosa
give them best gears u has
naive crown
Alright
worthy island
@clear saddle arden gets one shotted by what looks like Niru’s skill
clear saddle
@worthy island so for that stage i would run
Arden/Shem
Lyca
Shem/Arden
Brutus
Tasi
should work? might need some more rng
naive crown
Like this?
sand kindle
@worthy island its possible. Nem to mid, bottom is lyca and roll 30 times then tell me how it works. Its aim to charm enemy arden so he will use 2nd roots on his team
@naive crown yep probably rowan should handle vedan but im not sure
clear saddle
@sand kindle not sure if thats possible without M boots on nemora, i had to do the same for 19-38 which required 4* M boots... 🤔
naive crown
First try, Rowan got two shot
sand kindle
@naive crown ok and if u try somth like:
Rosa
Belinda
Arden
Luc
Rowan
@clear saddle its possible, I pass it with only shem 4 myth gears other was L or L+
clear saddle
@sand kindle idk, maybe the casting speed increased in ch19, but for that, my nem couldnt charm before arden roots
sand kindle
she couldnt, cos enemy team got lyca. She will never could even with boots. But I talk about second roots
worthy island
I can give M boots to Nemora if thats the plan here
clear saddle
@sand kindle i thought 19-38 had enemy lyca too?
sand kindle
@worthy island nono just try my lineup and tell if theres a chance to kill 2-3 of them
naive crown
Vedan kills belinda too fast
And well, shem hitting her as well. I did like 6 tries and it’s not working
limpid quail
@naive crown maybe hire a mercenary brutus and put him against vedan with belinda behind him, so she can do the damage
naive crown
That could work
limpid quail
or mercenary shemira to carry you
minor tundra
I'm thinking I might be too low but 18-40 is giving me trouble. Any advice?
clear saddle
@naive crown i know i might sound like a broken record, but shem carry is going to get you much farther than belinda carry for the moment especially since you dont have a team built around LB. its fine if you dont want to take my advice, but im just giving you my input into how you would progress most efficiently.
@minor tundra you gotta run
Arden
Lyca
Shem
Brutus
Tasi
i think. just hope your arden can tank a hit from shem. if not, maybe swap him middle
naive crown
I know shem is better, but she’s only elite. I’m saving up to buy another to get elite+
limpid quail
@minor tundra
sand kindle
@naive crown can u send me lineup and roster to pm. I need to think
clear saddle
@naive crown cool, just making sure you know what the most effective tactic is 😉
naive crown
It’s my main, first account. Mistakes were made as you can clearly see
worthy island
@sand kindle my whole team dies before the second root even comes
naive crown
I’m also stuck on my alt, 8-16
sand kindle
@worthy island try:
Nemo
shem
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
Your arden should root enemy one. If thats not happend restart
minor tundra
I barely squeaked by with this lineup, thank you both. The advice was helpful nonetheless. :D @limpid quail @clear saddle
clear saddle
@minor tundra ah nice, congrats 👍
limpid quail
gz a win is a win! nobody cares if it was barely or not 😄
naive crown
Never mind, beat it
worthy island
@sand kindle 30+ tries, arden cant root 😦
sand kindle
@worthy island hah ye my bad. theres ez lineup for this stage.
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Shem
tasi
and just roll
worthy island
@sand kindle getting closer. Killed 3 of them
naive crown
And now I’m actually stuck on the alt, who would’ve guessed it’s the same my mains troubled with niru and vedan
sand kindle
@worthy island yup. main rule. If u kill 3 u can pass that stage, just rng
naive crown
Graveborn campaign hero’s are straight up unfair
final star
Arden to root Vedan @naive crown
naive crown
That’s up to luck
sand kindle
unfair is wilders... they are just pain
final star
Last spot = guaranteed root
naive crown
Arden won’t root
fierce kayak
@naive crown Arden should root. Anyway buddy.. do post full roster together with stage. It be better for others to know your options.
naive crown
I sent the roster?
It’s a bit up, it’s not like it’s buried beneath a bunch of messages
woeful mortar
Do you guys think this is impossible with my current power. ( I think i can't win till I level up the rest of the heroes.)
fierce kayak
@naive crown ic. My bad. Try
Arden
Sav
Athalia
Thoran
Tasi
crimson kraken
naive crown
Can we remove 14-37, it’s actually the worst stage I’ve come across. I cannot beat it no matter what I try
untold maple
14-35, any suggestions? Everyone dies pretty quick regardless of positioning.
naive crown
Good luck on 37, you’ll need it
untold maple
dare I ask?
naive crown
I beat 35 with rosaline and belinda, but you don’t have rosaline. Scroll up a bit to see what I’m dealing with at 37
untold maple
I do, actually. Did you over level your belinda for it?
naive crown
Oh wait you have her I’m blind
My belinda was 180 then like she is now, her sig is +9 with duras eye. I’d use shem but mines only elite
untold maple
I'd take 14-37 over 14-35 any day. GB are ezpz
naive crown
No, 37 is literal hell. It’s the worst stage I have encountered. 4 high priority targets in one
It’s beyond unfair, you basically get one shot by Isabella and niru erases whatever is leftover
violet pecan
Help 21-51
final star
@untold maple Usually I'd use Brutus to tank Kaz and buy time, perhaps use Nem and hope to charm Kaz
untold maple
Well, Lyca infront of Vedan is never going to end well, for anyone. He will basically multistab your top 3 heroes because lyca hangs back at the start
violet pecan
@untold maple
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Grezhul
Tasi
RNG is problem repeat until you succed
naive crown
Lucius dies fast too
violet pecan
Main point is to keep adeen behind shemira and survive long enough.
Wait for tasi sleep
untold maple
Thanks guys, will give it a shot. Yeah I can't quite get tasi to sleep before shem bites it
and even the one or two times she did, my shem was instantly wrecked after it dropped
final star
@violet pecan does your Shem die too fast what not ? 🤔
fading jasper
@naive crown what is the problem hero and why are you losing?you can mix silvina and nara too. Lucius able to ult?
naive crown
Sometimes he can ult, but it’s mostly just a slaughter against me
Isabella deals way too much damage, niru cleans up the mess. Vedan and shem just destroy the side they’re on. I get gang banged from all sides
runic shore
I’m stuck on stage 9-16. Here are all relevant screenshots.
naive crown
I don’t even kill one of them half the time
fading jasper
@naive crown who does your silvina target? You can put her top front to let vedan turn back iif she jumps on niru
naive crown
I haven’t used silv
fading jasper
Do you really need lyca? Try using silv or nara too vs the trouble maker hero
naive crown
My friend let me rent his mythic+ brutus just now, I think I can win
brittle maple
Super stuck, send help
naive crown
Where should I put that brutus
final star
Lyca mid, Shem for Brutus, Tasi top, Arden bot I think @brittle maple
fading jasper
@naive crown try both positions
@naive crown back when i did 14-37 it was like this
naive crown
Getting that Brutus mercenary was an instant win
Welp, 38 is now my hell I think. Lost the first two tries
broken egret
ye 38 is one of those levels you will face a lot more often, but than just with higher levels
naive crown
Never mind, nara pulled arden and that got me the win
fading jasper
Always try what you have ,silvina can probably make kaz face back if you put her top front, lucius gets melted by ira . Try elite brutus if you have one
naive crown
And now it’s 39 time, maulers
Three tries and failure, doesn’t look that difficult though
fading jasper
Nemora
naive crown
Fourth try got it, onto the final one. I’ll more than likely be stuck on it i imagine
fading jasper
Ch14 wasnt that difficult , same goes for ch15 (only full gb stages)
untold maple
@violet pecan so my biggest issue is that shem and Ira ult at the exact same time. Even if Tasi happens to get her ult off just after shem, ira's arrows are already midair ready to shit all over my parade
fading jasper
Btw, give yourself a number of retries and test till there. like 40 or something. Later on you may even need 40 tries till you get the first condition to win ,like arden rooting 3 specific heroes.
naive crown
And again.. beat it after posting
violet pecan
@untold maple dura's call on tasi
untold maple
yep, got that. using blade on shem, call on tasi, drape on grezhul, eye on arden, and grace on lyca
violet pecan
pale kettle
Help. 10-28. Every 100 retrys or so it gets down to just saveus v saveus but i run out of time
broken egret
@pale kettle use saveas front of khasos, when ur sav crits khasos wont throw his axe
pale kettle
Thanks I’ll try
cerulean whale
How can I improve this
ashen schooner
@pale kettle I would suggest testing Rosaline in place of Tasi and see if anything changes.
@cerulean whale Swap Rosaline with Khasos. Then swap Khasos and Arden.
cerulean whale
@ashen schooner like this???
ashen schooner
@cerulean whale Swap the old guy up top with broom girl on bottom.
untold maple
Got a Shem ult, followed by a tasi ult, and a nem ult just before tasi's wore off... still got wrecked
ashen schooner
Lemme see the lineup.
ashen schooner
Switch Nemora and Arden placement. Maybe
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Tasi
Nemora
May be better to replace Tasi with Rosaline. Test it and see how far or close.
untold maple
I have tried arden mid with nemora bottom, not much different. I'll try that lineup but tasi is going to get one shot front line though 😛
ashen schooner
That's fine, sometimes there needs to be a sacrifice or two. 😉
untold maple
lol but I rely on tasi for her sleepies 😦
violet pecan
@cerulean whale use hogan instead of khasos and arden early game is k8nda wrak until he can root 2 or more enemies
uncut sapphire
@untold maple
ashen schooner
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora @violet pecan
Reset until Saveas charmed by Nemora.
untold maple
@uncut sapphire If only I had a brutus 😛
uncut sapphire
Oh well lol... Try another tank maybe
untold maple
I'll give it a shot
Is there anyone that I should throw in my crystal that might make a bigger difference or be a better tank thank my Grez, Ulmus, or Hendrik?
pale solstice
Currently run:
Shemira
Brutus
Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
Advice? Fairly new to game but have been reading guides
sharp harbor
What the hell do I do this is a stupid level
untold maple
Hrmm, when does Kelthur become good? On paper he seems like a great sacrifice/time buyer
uncut sapphire
@sharp harbor I’ve passed it with just Lyca and Tasi swapped
high sluice
Can anyone please help me with this level? I am stuck like hell
plain sage
a little embarrassed to be stuck at chap 8-16 from the people above me, but ive been stuck here for a few days
wide breach
@plain sage Try putting in Saveas over one of your tanks, probably Estrilda. She’s not super great early game. If you get golus to E+, can try using him and ankhira to bump Saveas up to legendary. Funnel all your exp into him till 140 and he should wreck
untold maple
@uncut sapphire @ashen schooner @violet pecan @final star It's only stupid if it doesn't work right? not sure why, but Kelthur made a difference.
mental trench
Any ideas guys? 😦
pale kettle
Lil stuck here any suggestions maybe change formation I’ve messed with it a bit but can’t figure it out Golus to tanky
wide breach
Just passed it with this if it’s any help
pale kettle
lol whats the chances were on the same one at the same time gz but i dont have those champions yet i almost got a l+ savias but need 1 more e+ mauler
wide breach
Yea if you can get that it should be easy, I don’t know if Belinda does enough damage. Maybe try getting her to 141
pale kettle
im tryng but low on hero xp
wide breach
I think khasos also doesn’t really shine until more lategame, so maybe try slotting in a different offtank or support
real palm
Any ideas on this hell? Please @me
strange bobcat
Any advice for 12-30?
Duras call is on Lucius.
Duras grace on Saveas.
Duras eye on shemira
proven tulip
@pale kettle Belinda didn't cut it for me but if you level up your Saveas to around 140 that can solve it, that worked for me a few days ago
pale kettle
yah i still need to get saveas past e+ cant level him rn
wide breach
@strange bobcat if you have M shemira getting her to 161 is a big powerspike. Maybe reset your lucius and others down a bit and funnel exp into her
proven tulip
I had the same issue, Saveas was stuck on 120 for ages 🙂
wide breach
Yea I just got him to L+ yesterday and immediately cleared Ch 10 and most of 11 after being hardstuck lol
proven tulip
I think my lineup was Belinda and Lucius front, Saveas, Nemora and someone else in the back, probably Tasi, you seem to have all these guys as well
maiden cliff
Hi guys, can anyone help me here? I steamrolled up until this stage but I can't survive this for more than about 5s 😟
strange bobcat
@wide breach really? Lucius? He is my saving grace lol
I’ll just wait a few days and funnel into shemira. I have plenty of dust, just not hero shiz to level them
wide breach
@strange bobcat I mean like down to 141 or so, at 161 Shemira can tank so you could take out Brutus/Saveas and put in your wilder supports
plucky flint
21-49. Any ideas? I’ve seen this comp work on youtube but can’t seem to get close with this or anything else i’ve tried.
meager wave
Any ideas?
pale kettle
@maiden cliff you can try athalia to face Arden and make Shem in front instead of Lucius. You can make use of lyca as well
maiden cliff
@pale kettle done it! Thanks 😁
devout tinsel
honestly idk what to make of this, thinking about nature healer + shemira + lucius + belinda + brutus
pale kettle
@maiden cliff Did my suggestion helped? If it did I’m happy it did! You’re most welcome man!
maiden cliff
@pale kettle first go using your strat, it definitely helped haha!
pale kettle
Cool! ✌️👍👍
indigo jolt
@plucky flint Fairly sure you want to use a level 1 bait mage in that case, to minimise Nirus buff.
topaz eagle
Any advice 20-30?
indigo jolt
Try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Nem
sly sparrow
Is this doable? 16-20
drifting root
Any idea?
drifting root
I'll try ty
tame vigil
@upper star try
Belinda
Lucius
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas
upper star
I’ll try that now. Thank you!
patent oak
I dont now what i play
pale kettle
hey i completed everything in The Dismal Descent but i cant get to the last boss im ending in the beginning
sharp egret
Should I upgrade Lucius to L? I’m almost certainly going to use him later but I don’t want to be down the fodder in case I highroll something else. He gets 2 shot currently unless he’s healed (and sometimes even if he’s healed)
The alternative is Hogan L+ , but if Lucius just gets destroyed I fear wasting time on hogan
crisp vigil
Hello!
I'm unfortunately stuck at 5-36.
Any tips?
wide breach
@sharp egret Hogan is a bit safer because if you do get the extra Lucius copies down the line- you can feed the L+ hogan to get another LB to M
solid marten
Any help?
sharp egret
@wide breach good point, I’ll do that
vast plover
@solid marten try Brutus vs Brutus use the Nara against the niru then Belinda and Mirael in the back
analog delta
I Started playing not long ago and try to make a team with the tier list but its hard to know which caracter goes well with who any help :)
forest flume
@analog delta up to lvl 160 Saveas is the best dmg dealer. You want to make him legendary+ and keep him 20/40 lvl higher than your other units.
Use heroes like tasi, nemora, lyca and arden to support saveas. Arden starts being real good at lvl 141. Use your lucius or brutus as tank
broken egret
@analog delta also reset your units, don't level more than 5 units, it's a waste. You only want to level other units with your crystal. This way your main team will be stronger
forest flume
Didnt even see that lol. Could easily make saveas 120
earnest bridge
I just started play recently and was wondering what the best formation was with the characters that I have?
hushed wasp
Got a few new heroes since I last asked. Any recommendations for a 81+ lineup?
forest flume
@earnest bridge maybe lyca hogan tasi belinda fawkes
rich walrus
What team should I use I keep losing in stage 6
earnest bridge
@forest flume thanks
forest flume
@hushed wasp i wouldnt use shemira before lvl 161. Try to aim for lvl 160 saveas. You could use brutus saveas tasi twins arden for a while. Pray for a lyca copy x)
crisp vigil
Stuck at 5-40*
broken egret
@rich walrus i would take Isabella out of crystal, she won't help you much till she is really jigh level. Put lyca in instead. You can also try and start working on an arden. He gets really good at lvl 81 and a god at 141. Also try and make saveas 20-40 levels ahead of the other units.
For team i would than use hogan, saveas, lyca, tasi and arden/grezghul depending on whether arden is 81 or not. @rich walrus
ocean gate
is there a way to beat this right now or do I have to afk til I can?
ashen schooner
@ocean gate Switch out Safiya for Nemora. Don't know if you'd have enough time to charm the Saveas but if you can, reset until Saveas is charmed.
broken egret
@ocean gate I would advise you to take safiya out of crystal and get arden in there. With lvl 81 he is a really good backliner.
analog delta
@forest flume @broken egret ty guys
sharp egret
@ocean gate to beat those levels I used sav to tank the other sav while clearing the rest of the board. You should also level your sav up a lot more
I think I need to level, but this isn’t even a boss and I’m hardstuck 😦
ashen schooner
@sharp egret Have you already tried switching Lucius out where Rowan is? Maybe also switch Tasi out for Arden or Rosaline for bonus ultimates from Belinda or Lucius.
sharp egret
Yeah, lucius dies in 2-3 sav throws. Rowan can tank a few, let lucius block, and get to ult. I also tried Arden but could try some more I suppose
I am higher in the tower though (power level wise) so maybe it’s possible. IIRC I got up to 1m damage on golus once and he still lived lol
ashen schooner
Alright, test out swapping Tasi then, leave the rest. @sharp egret
sharp egret
Swapping out Tasi helped, I’m kind of surprised
ashen schooner
You'd be surprised what kind of lineups can pass a stage. Congrats!
fickle loom
I know I already messed up my early game so I don’t really have good solid early game heroes to use, but is there way to salvage this? Would waiting ~3 days ish for purple dust save me? (Who do I level to 121 then–Tasi or Belinda?)
rugged marten
If you're using Shem to carry, overlevel her, prioritise levelling her before anything else, that'll have the most impact for your team, however Shem struggles to carry until she is 161 (mythic ascension required) @fickle loom
Also only level up 5 heroes, the others are wasted resources
fickle loom
Shem is trying to but the rest of the party is too heavy, lmao.
rugged marten
But yeah, for the stage of the game you're at, I'd recommend using Golus and Ankhira to make Saveas L and then prioritise getting him to L+ as soon as you can get your elite Saveas to E+, his carry potential is crazy good until around chapter 14/15 @fickle loom
By then you should be close to a Mythic Shem to swap her to be your main carry over Saveas
golden stone
I'm getting absolutely bodied by 22-8, and have been for a few days now. Currently I've got the setup shown in the screenshot, with the following relics:
Nemora: Chalice
Shemira: Call
Lyca: Eye
Brutus: Cloak
Arden: lol doesn't matter he's just Silvina-bait
Any ideas as to what I can do differently to beat this? I've seen this setup work in YouTube videos, but for whatever reason it hasn't worked for me through dozens if not hundreds of tries.
fickle loom
I stopped randomly ascending stuff because that's how I got my random Shemira/Belinda/Tasi core (I just ascended whatever I got first lul), but I might try getting Saveas to Legend first. Or should I wait until I can get him to L+? (don't have copies now reeeee)
lethal ember
@golden stone Arden still helping u?
rugged marten
Swap Lyca and Nem, you want Nemora to charm Seirus so he CCs his team @golden stone
golden stone
Not particularly, but he's there so Silvina doesn't just instantly wreck Nemora.
Ah ok will try that
rugged marten
Give it a few tries, for rng sake, Wilders are heavily reliant on rng unfortunately
golden stone
Thus far it seems like if she's in slot 4, Nemora doesn't last long enough to get a charm off. In slot 3 it's a tossup, but sometimes she does charm Seirus
Man, sometimes I really wish "Ascended Silvina" wasn't a thing
ocean island
Been stuck on this stage for quite a bit - Any help?
lethal ember
Instead of Estrilda try using Tasi
golden stone
Yeah, some CC could really help you out I think
lethal ember
Is this situation hopeless and should I just wait for one more Shemira copy?
ocean island
I still get completely bodied, killed 0 enemy heroes
golden stone
I don't think it's hopeless. Maybe try throwing Nemora in and put either Shemira or Tasi frontline? Instead of Lucius I mean
still oar
https://youtu.be/HmHjXmVoncs
I tossed in ezzizh and mehira for that stage and pretty much still needed quite rng with 220 shem+brutus and 180 crystal @golden stone
sharp egret
Galaxy, I’m on the mirror of that stage and I’d also try Arden after you try Tasi
golden stone
dang, that mythic ezizh. I have 200 crystal and 240 shem, so maybe I can do it. My ezizh is only L though
lethal ember
Ok
golden stone
Draw Silvina from the enemy Tasi?
still oar
Mean mehira
golden stone
Ah kk
still oar
😅 mb lol
golden stone
Lol no worries. Any artifact recs? I honestly have no idea what to put on the two Hypogeans
still oar
A sec
ocean island
Tried tasi and Arden for estrilda about 15 times each, still get 0-5
golden stone
I'm thinking giving Mehira the Call might be the play, in which case I'd give Shemira the Blade, Ezizh the Grace, Brutus the Drape, and Lyca the Eye?
Edit: ooh ok
still oar
@golden stone apparently my crystal already is 200 for that stage. Ezzizh probably used chalice
lethal ember
It worked :))
golden stone
Gratz!
Hmm, maybe I need two stars on my Call for this to work. Mehira always dies right before she gets enough energy to ult
Looks like it's Tasi that's killing her
still oar
If that the case it's down to luck.
golden stone
5 fragments away ;_;
still oar
Yeah tasi is quite an A with banish+teleport
golden stone
Just as I said that, Mehira managed to get an ult off. Didn't win, but got much closer
sacred frigate
Hey! I'm kinda new to the game and I'm stuck on 7-40, can someone help me building a better line up for pve?
still oar
Almost there 👍
golden stone
@sacred frigate What's your lineup like now - the top five heroes listed or something else?
sacred frigate
no, let me check the names here, 1 sec
i'm using frontline estrilda and lucius, backline nemora, tasi and ulmus
golden stone
There's a pretty good early-game tips post pinned in #classic-questions - one of the big suggestions from that is to build up a Saveas and overlevel him for a while, at least until midgame
That's not a bad lineup, but you could probably use more DPS output
sacred frigate
ulmus is mostly there for the 3-2 buff
golden stone
Faction buffs are nice, but they're less important than people tend to think. I'd try and build up a hero with high DPS output, like Saveas (or, about 60 hero levels from now, Shemira) to carry your damage
hushed wasp
Ok, switched out shemira for saveas again and got bodied a lot quicker then before
I don't know what it is but whenever I take out shemira and make saveas my carry he dies in seconds, I get bodied and the dps of my party falls drastically
sacred frigate
thanks, but the problem at 7-40 i notice is that everyone dies quickly, lucius never gets time to ult
golden stone
Hmm. Different tank then? Or maybe run Arden instead of Nemora because you've already got heals in Lucius and the CC can help you stay up longer. Or instead of Ulmus for that matter
lunar jolt
I'm really new to the game, and I'm wondering who I should prioritize/revert. I only spent a dollar to get estrilda and the Elite Hogan, I think I've gotten really lucky on my pulls! Should I revert Golus and put my resources into Estrilda?
sacred frigate
ok, i will try it, thanks for the help ^^
hushed wasp
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but my experience with saveas and shemira contradicts what everyone says about the two
golden stone
No prob! @lunar jolt, at that stage of the game I wouldn't worry too much about min-maxing; rather, just keep getting heroes and see what you can do with the various combinations. The exception is that if you get a Saveas (particularly if you can get him to E or E+) it'll be good to over-level him and let him carry your damage
lunar jolt
The only legendary I DON'T own XD
shrewd void
i'm not fan of the "almighty saveas carry" mirael do quite the job and then is a nice sacrifice to up other heroes
golden stone
Mirael does do a good job. And using Saveas as your carry isn't strictly mandatory - it just tends to work out pretty well for most players and tends to be helpful advice at lower levels.
shrewd void
i personnally buffed belinda from the get go and she is still my carry atm ^^^
but u have to wait for the 7 day reward
golden stone
She's quite good, especially if you also have Eironn to get the enemies grouped up
hushed wasp
I don't want to sound like an ass when people go out of their way to give me advice for free. It's just that whenever I revert shemira and pump up saveas I do significantly worse
shrewd void
shemira is op at 161
golden stone
@hushed wasp What level are they at? And could it be a gear thing? Also are you putting Saveas front-line or back?
hushed wasp
In my experience she is ip at most levels
shrewd void
saveas is op until 160 . @hushed wasp she is even more op at 161 cause her ultimate heal her as hell
hushed wasp
I put saveas in the front and iirc shemira had much better gear...one sec
golden stone
That could be part of it. Saveas does do better in the back though
hushed wasp
I'll try that
shrewd void
if saveas doesnt have time to load is ultimate he don't do shit
golden stone
@still oar Got it down to Shem vs 2 heroes this time. I can taste the damn thing
still oar
YOU CAN DO IT!!
hushed wasp
Alright this is the latest version of the team. If I want saveas in the back I'm going to need another tank
brittle maple
Need help with the lineup from hell
shrewd void
@hushed wasp weird compo
and better get saveas behind brutus since brutus can stay alive longer
wraith barn
Stuck for 2 days any help would be amazing
shrewd void
shemira backline top no tasi , + gorvo frontline bottom ?
wraith barn
I think that shemeria is just too much my shem cant even 1v1 it with almost full mythic gear like i might be stuck till i level to 201 but ill try your suggestion thank you
shrewd void
which level is this?
silent wraith
@golden stone try this lineup, your success may vary depending on how strong you shem is, mine is +20 sig and all m+ gear
pale solstice
Currently run:
Shemira
Brutus
Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
Advice? Fairly new to game but have been reading guides
carmine orbit
cursive forum
What would be the best general line up from this group, y'all think?
indigo jolt
@cursive forum Reset Khasos or Fawkes to 160. Ascend shem with niru. Go to 200 Shem if you have Dust.
Run meta. Brutus Shem arden lyca tasi.
Also, way too man L heroes. You need to focus on building up fodder L+ for going M and M+.
drifting root
Help please 😰
devout berry
17-35
stark dragon
17-2, help please
gilded epoch
Advice please
indigo jolt
@stark dragon If you have Arden
stark dragon
Arden targeting who?
gilded epoch
indigo jolt
@stark dragon You run it in the positions shown.
@devout berry Try
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
@drifting root Try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
gilded epoch
Stuck on kings 90
indigo jolt
@naive crown Can your Bel frontline at all?
I might try
Arden
Brutus/Lyca
Rowan
Belinda
Tasi
Also, who does Fawkes coffin if you run him?
naive crown
I haven’t used fawkes
indigo jolt
Can you run once, and see who he does.
thorn tapir
Highest atk rating unit
indigo jolt
Yeah, but i don't know for that stage, especialy for ai.
thorn tapir
So yes see who he coffins lol
indigo jolt
@gilded epoch What is it you're looking for?
gilded epoch
To beat tower floor 90
indigo jolt
@gilded epoch Show roster, and enemy formation in same message. Can't really advise otherwise. i don't know stages off by heart.
indigo jolt
Try
Tasi
Thoran/Serius
Fawkes
Hogan
Belinda
@gilded epoch
gilded epoch
Will do, thank you
indigo jolt
@gilded epoch You could also o with reading the pin in #classic-questions . For an explanation on why you should overlevel one carry hero and some other tips.
steel moat
Could i get some help on this one? 21-10
indigo jolt
@steel moat Try
Tasi
Estrilda
Shem
Lyca
Nem/Arden?
high horizon
Stage 9-20 any suggestions?
steel moat
Thanks, i'll run that a couple times. The problem is Eironn wrecking my backline with his pull and then his ice sword skill
indigo jolt
Yeah.. not that far, guess i have it to look forward to.
ashen schooner
@high horizon Try putting Saveas where Belinda is, then put Brutus in the frontline. If that doesn't work, I'll come up with a new lineup. Just reset a few times and test it.
indigo jolt
@high horizon Try
Nara/Nemora
Brutus
Nemora/Nara
Estrilda
Saveas
still oar
@steel moat but it was pre patch.
lapis fable
Help stuck 16-20
high horizon
@ashen schooner who is Brutus replacing
ashen schooner
@high horizon Belinda
steel moat
Oh lyca just got destroyed 
thanks, never thought to try nemora frontline 🤔
ashen schooner
@lapis fable Swap places for some of your heroes.
Lyca
Shemira
Fawkes
Brutus
Belinda/Tasi/Rosaline
Test it a few times.
lapis fable
Ok I'll give them a whirl thanks
untold nacelle
Any ideas?
high horizon
@ashen schooner doesn’t work or I’m just too under level’d
paper wadi
any ideas?
fierce kayak
@untold nacelle build an Arden buddy, and don't L heroes anymore. Try
Savaes
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
paper wadi
nobody an idea?
untold nacelle
Tried. Lyca just gets erased. Being base elite probably doesnt help lol
still oar
For PoT Shem is better @paper wadi. Make sure to have 100% energy when battle ends and you can kill vedan b4 they turn to bat.
Line up for PoT needs to see the relics
paper wadi
@still oar
still oar
Can you fight other to fill your energy first?
paper wadi
not really
still oar
Let see
L.3 safiya or any mage for bonus
Lyca
Arden
Tasi
Belinda/saveas/shemira
Use safiya to draw silvina's first, root vedan and hope either of your mage can ult to kill then when tasi put them to sleep .
If you want to restart try
Arden'
Lyca
Shem
Tank
Tasi
You lack of healer so it might be harder for you
@paper wadi
violet pawn
What should my comp be?
still oar
The common strategy for PoT is to save energy
paper wadi
ok ty i will try
still oar
Fawkes. Or. Saveas
Brutus. Brutu
Rosa. Arden
Hogan. Lyca
Saveas. Fawkes
I'd try that
@violet pawn
paper wadi
@still oar thank you i got it with your line up
brittle summit
Need some help on clearing 20-24.
ember bane
Long stuck at 21-9 any advice how to defeat them plz ty
ashen schooner
@pale kettle Switch Lyca and Shemira placements, then possibly swap out Tasi for a Nemora if you have one. A charm on the enemy Shemira would help.
@brittle summit Swap out Estrilda for Lyca.
@ember bane Put Brutus in front of Kaz.
crude rivet
Stuck at 14-12
ashen schooner
@crude rivet
Athalia
Lucius
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Test for a few tries. Do you have a Nemora by chance?
crude rivet
I do i have a leg nemora
ashen schooner
Possibly better for you then to switch the Athalia out in that lineup to Nemora and reset until she charms the Ira. @crude rivet
crude rivet
Ah ok thanks
clear saddle
@crude rivet do you have an arden by any chance?
crude rivet
My only Arden is E+ so he won't work
clear saddle
@crude rivet he will work, but only really once you get 141 crystal when he gets 3 roots. then you can run meta: Brutus/Lucius Shem, Lyca, Arden/Nemora, Tasi
crude rivet
Oh ok thank you
clear saddle
@ember bane you need arden instead of athalia, and run shem top, arden back middle
wooden void
Who the fuck do I use my heroes are ASS
clear saddle
@wooden void reset your top 4, level saveas to the max, then if u show the rest of ur roster i can judge better 😉
wooden void
K
violet pine
So uh what should I do 😳
clear saddle
@violet pine run
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
SHem
Lyca
violet pine
Forgot nemora charm helps with that big scary ferael
wooden void
Well bitch all heroes need to be 120 for me to do that
fierce kayak
@violet pine tasi dropped becos she banish nemora charm target Farael.
Reset if charm fails.
violet pine
Ferael keeps going green smh
clear saddle
@violet pine use arden instead of tasi for more reliable charming of ferael.
wooden void
Alright I did everything u told me to do. Now who do I use for 11-24
spice flax
Having a bit of trouble here
violet pine
Welcome to the club
Scroll up a little bit to see what they told me. The problem is my nemora wont charm the fereal @spice flax
indigo jolt
@spice flax Same as above, drop tasi for Nemora. Put nemora opposite ferael. Retry till she charms him.
spice flax
@indigo jolt what happens when nemora keeps hitting niru
indigo jolt
Should just retry,its a matter of rng.
clear saddle
@spice flax drop tasi for nemora and put her middle back to charm enemy ferael
silent wraith
@violet pine you just keeping resetting until she charms him
golden stone
@silent wraith your lineup from a few hours ago worked! had to use a lyca merc but hey
silent wraith
niiice
violet pine
Oof
clear saddle
@silent wraith i got my 240 shem now 
silent wraith
oof grats tuesbae
gilded epoch
No advice for whizz? Ok 😞
clear saddle
@gilded epoch saveas, belinda, estrilda, thane and lucius probably
gilded epoch
Thank you very much! In that order?
clear saddle
Lucius and Thane front probably
golden stone
Could probably also get away with Estrilda and Lucius front. Also, on Wrizz, if you can manage to keep him alive Saveas can be good up front, because his projectiles have a shorter distance to travel and so he throws more of them
violet pine
Rosa belinda is fun
brittle summit
@ashen schooner not working for me.
fierce kayak
@brittle summit why did you even level? Reset others to 180 and make Shem 220. Try Shem and Brutus front. Wilders cc back. Position your backline accordingly so that they won't get ohko from vurk arrow too.
I didnt ss this stage means it should be much trouble. G luck.
jagged bison
@violet pine yeah drop Tasi, put Nemora in the middle
brittle summit
@fierce kayak for the crystal.
warm raven
Somehow I forgot about Rosaline? I was stuck trying to finish Ch 9, and retried with E+ Rose instead of some L+ DPS? She's sped my Nemora through to 10-20 so far!
Had to buy Rose some new boots to survive, but she's walking all over everyone with them. Worth.
fierce kayak
@brittle summit sorry I don't understand. Crystal 180 is good enough to make Shem 220?
Shem 220 is more important than crystal 200
@warm raven try to only buy M gears and from guild shop.
warm raven
@fierce kayak When do we get M? I only just got L
ancient oasis
Aww man
twin wren
I’m stuck on chapter 13 running lucy(m) hendrickson(L) front line with shemira(m) rosy (L) and fawkes (L)
I’m stuck on 13-4 any suggestions?
clear saddle
@twin wren max out your shem pls, if you can get her to 161, she'll perform a lot better then.
fierce kayak
@ancient oasis nemora switch lyca to charm Brutus. If Shem can't tank top then Brutus top. If tasi can banish Khasos then try to use her.
ember bane
@clear saddle all 5 enemies survives can't kill single of them
serene basin
Any ideas on my guild wrizz line up, swapping Belinda for warek cost me nearly 5 mil damage, is there a better setup to be running
clear saddle
@serene basin I run: Baden Shem Estrilda Belinda and Rosa. do you have your hero list? (again)
stone radish
What's best focus
serene basin
All my heros are in the screenshot above, maybe it didn't load, I can also ascend another light bearer, who should it be since I mostly just use them for wrizz at this point
clear saddle
@stone radish for arena: i run Shem Brutus front, Lyca Tasi Ferael back. you could also use arden instead of ferael for faction bonus, etc. Campaign you'd be best suited running arden instead
royal latch
is it possible at my current place to beat this stage? lol
serene basin
I have a L+ mireal that isn't shown on the ascension shot
clear saddle
I think maybe you run estrilda belinda shem rosa grez? @serene basin try and see. you might be better off with lucius but i dont run lucius since he's such a low ascension for me
serene basin
Well my grez is only elite I believe
Also any idea for light-bearers on who to ascend, like I said I have a legendary plus Potter not shown in that screenshot
clear saddle
Yeah, maybe raine instead? or even saveas maybe
serene basin
I'll have to find a Spa in the crystal for rain, but I only have one more try left for today
So yeah I def need lucius other wise not team shield/heal, and it cost me 7 mil this time
@clear saddle would there be another unit that would work well for she wanted can also do damage
Shields and or heals*
clear saddle
@serene basin i mean as of right now, i just go full damage. Since you cant put raine in for now... maybe rowan for support? then you run Rosa Estrilda front and rest back
serene basin
All right I'll have to try Rowan tomorrow I don't have any more tries, I feel like once I get enough fodder to take my tasi to ascended, I might start putting faction Scrolls into light bears
clear saddle
You could do that, you could also go GB. but for LB u need lots of good ascensions on thane lucius and rowan so keep that in mind
still oar
If you are experimenting with line up you can hard close to cancel the battle @serene basin
So you will virtually have unlimited attempts
serene basin
Well with that being said, I have that extra fodder legendary plus hero, that I could use to take one of my light-bearers to Mythic
@still oarthanks I don't know why I didn't think of that, and TBH I'm a delivery driver, so most of time I just hit play and let it play out, the only reason why I'm able to use Discord is when I stop or when I use voice to text and have my phone read it out
still oar
@serene basin my current alt . Try twins and
serene basin
I don't have the twins sadly
I know anthalia doesn't have shield for the team but when I get some more gladiator coins I can have her at L I believe, is she good for wrizz
serene basin
Who would be the damage dealing light bearer if I went a full light-bearer team, I understand that for right now my best bet would be to stay with Shamira, but ideally who would be the damage dealer for that faction, Belinda?
still oar
Yes. A sec I might still have SS of my mate lb
serene basin
Has anyone tried gwynth, or maybe thane
serene basin
Who is he in this context
still oar
No clue bout Gwyneth but don't think she is great for hunt DD. Since the DDs use their ults as dealer
My mate.
The pic above is his hunt
pale kettle
well Rosaline gave too much Buffs to Belinda to be able to do that dmg. Rosaline is a must needed heroe in Wizz if your dmg is based in your best hero
weak nova
The problem with Thane is he doesn't work with Rosa, Rowan or Est dmg buffs
serene basin
Oh I see, I kinda wanna try gwynth, and why does t thane work with those buffs?
past nymph
Any advice for handling a boss ferael?
weak nova
Rosa can't follow him, Rowan ult have relative short range and he doesn't receive buff when he jumping around with invincibility frames
pale kettle
Thane stays in air almost all time. not a good combination with Rosa
serene basin
Oh I see so she's not able to link up with him and boost his stats when he's jumping around, I figured that would be the case, but wasn't sure but why wouldn't other Buffs affect him
weak nova
all sort of targetet buffs (Belinda, Est,...) won't work on Thane when he jumping around
pale kettle
Lol no
My wizz team is Shemira as the dmg dealer, Rosa, Raine, Belinda to give buffs to shemira and Lucius to keep them alvive longer. That team has a 670k power and my best dmg was almost 43M with them.
This lineup seems to be effective since I don't have all heroes that I want to use in Wizz or I have them but they're weak
cosmic trellis