#lineup-help
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Any suggestions? 18-35
@minor tundra Hey there ^^ could you edit your message? you've accidently sent the same image twice.
@minor tundra shift nemora middle to charm enemy nemora?
@clear saddle lucius is very good..dont want to waste him
What artifacts should i put on the meta team ?
@gilded ruin i think Tuesday meant reset lucius to 180 then max shem
@gilded ruin you gotta focus ur Shem, she’s ur dps. Or else ur gonna progress slow
Sorry I meant these two! Wouldn't let me add it through edit unfortunately
@clear saddle nope they still got annihilated
@shell jetty hold on, eating rn, I’ll help u in a little
is this place to ask about lab 3 final boss?
@somber grotto should be yes
Can I beat this?
i think yu should be able to.. yu can try swapping estrilda and saveas, if doesnt work yu can try placing hogan infront and estrilda behind
Been stuck on 12-8 for over a week any tips? I have plenty of resources to level my hero’s I just can’t ascend them yet zzzz
@shell jetty wow I did it thanks!! I did a hogan belinda twins ezizh and isabella
@shell jetty so right now you are using estrilda brutus saveas arden and lyca yeah?
ya im using best gears i have for em atm
25-10 what kinda build will work here?
@shell jetty maybe dont put sav bottom? need him kill top first?
its the same thing... i tried saveas lyca and tasi and i got the tanks down but saveas is all that left with half hp and thats the furthest i got
@shell jetty
Try
Nem/Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Sav
👀 💦
Do I still Max my Belinda or I start level up saveas
Help me build best lightbringer only team please I need to know which ones to keep lvling
20-21 need help
what do i do. my hogan sucks so bad because i cant get any more of him.
@supple stratus surprised you made it this far with your ascensions sir, but when are you getting an A shem? i doubt you can progress much farther
@pale kettle use your hypogen instread
I lack 1 shem, 30k/45k lab coins atm. and thanks, it's been a lot of hard work getting here.
@white sinew hypogen? what one is that
Stuck at 12.24
New line up please? What you suggest
@soft bobcat what does 12 24 look like
@soft bobcat how close are you to getting shem to M?
@soft bobcat brutus lucius sherm Arden tasi
My other one is only elite +
@clear saddle where about are you
@placid dirge chapter? 21
@clear saddle waiting for levels or you wwant me to check your lineup
İs this possible?
@placid dirge pretty much just waiting, i can keep pushing but dont really want to
@cinder crag which stage is that?
@clear saddle Hey , it's delves peak :D
@clear saddle pretty sure my lineup needs to change for my level but only attempted it once lol
Ohhhhhhh... you need good relic rng for that one
Basically fire/ice and all the dmg buffs ?
@cinder crag so much wilder against an all mauler oof
@cinder crag i think i had fire/ice and energy relics
@placid dirge Even if you use lb it doesn't matter faction disadvantage doesnt matter in that case so
Oh yeah, i also got spider thread gloves from the lucius camp i think it was at the bottom
You got very lucky @clear saddle Gotta try again it seems always the damn spider gloves with ice /fire lol
@cinder crag I blew past everything without losing a sliver of health with
Grezhule brutus sherm tasi feral
Dont think it was necessary though, with silent hope you can tasi ult at the start and have another one ready after or chain shem ults
@cinder crag didnt check if it scales to my level tho
@clear saddle u wanna take a crack at my team?
Sure, why not
@placid dirge I mean using those heroes at high Ascension and high level will ofc let you pass but i can't do anything that doesn't have anything to with Wilders cuz i can't deal good dmg
Ho-ho... damn... thats completely out of my field, but ill take a look lmao
@clear saddle showing all my heros is explicit to ugh
bruh lmao
Mann eironn and tasi in the same comp...
Does the eironn pull your ferael in too?
@placid dirge Your main dps shem or ferael?
@clear saddle feral and grezhule out dps sherm hard shes just cc
Ah, guess you need shem to silence tasi at some point?
Using Shem for only cc 
No I use sherm to get banished
Oh okay... i'm still trying to piece things together LOL. You've tried nara on eironn i guess?
The point is your roster is so formidable that you use Shem as bait lol
Doable? Should I look for any mercenary? Graveborn tower floor 90
@edgy surge definitely doable, let me take a look at my setup if i still got it
@clear saddle I've only tried that lineup once or twice now u can suggest anything I'll tell you the outcome
Try nara in place of shem i guess
Ferael +10 and shemira +16 @clear saddle I can ask for White Isabella maybe
Actually I can borrow either White grez or White isabella
@edgy surge
@clear saddle nara no work
@placid dirge what happens? i need a diagnosis xD
@edgy surge Shem 1, Grez 2 etc
Does that mean shemira 1 and Baden 5? @clear saddle
@clear saddle
Kk Will try as soon as my GF's dad gives me Nara XD
@edgy surge took a lot of rng though, good luck. I also swapped gear from my main to my gb team
@placid dirge damn, back to the drawing board
Good morning everyone, I was wondering if anyone has suggestions for a Labyrinth Team with these picks.
@clear saddle
@placid dirge Those numbers dont really mean much to me ill be honest, how low do they get?
My normal team kills eironn and puts everyone else to a sliver
@placid dirge I mean, i guess you could just rng it out?
I think my Wrizz team is pretty solid, but not sure about my PVP.
No that ira wrecks me
@placid dirge man, you got so many problems there, the whole backline fucks you over
@placid dirge grez there to tank or dps? or both?
@long elm you should try getting a faction bonus. And you will also need some sort of cc for pvp, as it can decide wether you win or lose. Try replacing Golus with Hogan, to get a faction bonus. They're pretty much the same
@clear saddle both hes mu most pr hero
@long elm
@placid dirge Lyca instead of nara/shem?
@austere stag I'll check it out thanks. Would Hendrik or Hogan be better?
@long elm currently I'd say Hogan, but when you get a little further in game, definitely Hendrickson
@clear saddle not working that way either
👌
Oh shit, your lyca gets deleted
@placid dirge Thoran instead of brutus and shem again maybe?
Need a little help with figuring out how to beat 14 39 at the moment, and that's my list
@clear saddle I needed lucius to keep feral alive played around
Oh, congrats... HAHA. I'm totally not suited for that end game stuff yet. although i guess its a lot easier to make a diagnosis if you see it happening real time
@clear saddle wanna play with my lineup on the next I can beat it
Sure thing
@clear saddle
also have a healthy amount of mercs from guild
Hmm how about, Grez pos 1, Brutus/Thoran pos 2, Ferael 3, Tasi 4 and maybe Lyca/Shem pos 5 for luls? @placid dirge
help
@strange glen alright firstly, dont ever put your shem against sav, she's gonna melt. Maybe put lyca frontline and have shem behind her? need brutus to tank the sav
@clear saddle gj
@placid dirge ayy lmao ok nice
i dont like stages with ogi lyca and arden together....
@dry smelt think i cleared it with nemora top instead of athalia and had 4* M boots. this allowed her to charm the arden before he roots his team
@clear saddle here's the next its doable to
@placid dirge Tasi or Shem tanks silv? whoever tanks it behind brutus i guess
Sherm takes it
so what lineup should i use? tasi or arden? 🙂
@placid dirge guess you could try the same thing again? xd
@clear saddle hmm
oh fuck the khasos....
Need help cause...currently can't even kill 1 enemy before Vrocks poison kills half my team or Saveas and Brutus be...well Saveas and Brutus
@clear saddle I wasnt kidding eh feral and grezhule are the main dps
Yeah... maybe take out shem, put lucius in and have brutus tank the silvina after shem? running 3 tanks... heh
Wait nvm, i think you need more damage against that khasos... lemme rethink
@clear saddle just helping you here when I see maulers like that I slip in lucius instead of brutus that's your hint
Ohhhh yeah, i was thinking that maybe more damage would get the job done instead of more tank but yeah. would swapping ferael bottom have any effect? or would he perish to the khasos immediately?
Gotta have lucius to keep feral alve to
Yeah, that khasos dps looks insane. so lucius instead of brutus huh? and ferael out of the line from khasos i guess. Can't say im well versed in lucius combat, mines always been a crappy ascension
what's the significance of 4* boots?
@dry smelt allows her to charm before arden roots
is it to move to battlefield faster?
@dry smelt it improves casting speed and mspd so yeah, to get everything done faster
@clear saddle
@placid dirge hmm okay, getting there in terms of knowledge lol
@clear saddle I have blade on sherm so longer the battle goes the more buff she is so for a longer battle like that she carries
Do you have eye on ferael then?
@clear saddle rn no Cape so he can live a hit
Oh okay, for future reference hehe
Next last one for me today
@placid dirge try that for now i guess?
@clear saddle I dont like being stuck so I try to leave a level I can beat in front of me
Can anyone give me some advice on how to beat this level? I have been stuck for a while now and can’t seem to get any headway.
@clear saddle
Hello, team suggestion please? I use lucius, hogan, rosalinde, lyca and saveas
@placid dirge oh shit, maybe thoran instead of lucius?
@clear saddle
@placid dirge man your grezhul gets demolished as well... you gonna have to run thoran and brutus front? 🤔
Maybe take out shem for lyca?
@placid dirge question for ya, should I M+ ferael right now? Or wait for grez or thoran. I’m planning on getting some from lab store...
@clear saddle I'll play around and let you know
@clear saddle feral is gonna become key to have very soon so m+ him
Just hope i can pull a couple more of him LOL touch wood
@placid dirge aight, thanks for sharing that with me. its 12am so im gonna sleep 
Could use some help on 16-20. Can't seem to make a dent in it
@frigid spruce alright last one for me.
Try
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
need you to kill niru asap
@clear saddle close hmm
which one should i have Silv go for?
@frigid spruce tasi, always run the bait behind brutus
ok i'll try that setup. i was originally trying that but my guys kept dying so fast Niru was just staying full health whole time
Yeah niru powers up the more enemies/allies die so gotta target him first
Anyway im out for tonight 👋
Stuck for 3 days here in chapter 10. Can't figure out a comp that can squeak me through.
Any idea on how I can pass 9-32?
@glossy minnow Put Lucius up against Vedan, and Nemora behind him, should look like so :
Fawkes
Gorvo
Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
@wide patio Wilder is always the best choice to focus on out of everyone else, but if you require duplicates / more fodder from a specific faction for a quick Ascension, you should do it.
Btw, this question should be in #classic-questions Next time, as it's not fully a question regarding a stage you're stuck at. ^^
@wise merlin that way gorvo and fawkes get instashotted as soon as vedan gets out of the coffin
How about Lucius? he doesn't get his ult off? @glossy minnow
Also, what artifacts do you have?
Did you switch the equipment?
So I open the elite card in Wilder's. For now or to look for brutus and khasos @wise merlin
I'd say don't raffle too hard on specific heroes, unless you feel extra lucky, but then again, it's all random. ^^
Any help with 13-15? The khasos obliterates my back line
@wise merlin only Dura's grace which is equipped on lucius, I can't see to beat the 3rd peak of time for a second artifact
@glossy minnow do you happen to have a lyca? 🙂
i can try to borrow one from a friend, who should i swap out for her?
I'd swap her with Hendrik, AKA Gorvo, as she'll only be useful for her haste
This is what units I have against things that normally one shot half my team
@wise merlin thx a lot, i'll try as soon as possible, otherwise i just need to lvlup a bit
Been stuck here for awhile.. Is it just a matter of leveling up? Or should I do some rearranging? I've tried about every combo I can think of
Been stuck 2 days. Any help is welcome 🙃
@unreal arrow try getting a 3-piece faction bonus, like replacing Lyca for a Mauler.
@halcyon ocean Get Saveas in your team, maybe instead of Rowan? If that doesn't work, try getting an Arden, or maybe Tasi could even do the job.
Hmm okay I’ll try that. Thanks!
Any ideas? 25-32... using meta only can kill one, cos my wilders is pretty weak
Any suggestions on who to use to beat 12-36 aswell as what heroes would be worth ascending right now( I should also have a mythic nemora tomorrow)
Are my champions just too low level ?
Tower 74 gb help
Stuck at 12 24 help with line up please
Need help pls
@final star pretty sure I beat that with 4 wilders. Lyca shem nem arden tasi 1-5. Could also try that reversed.
@plucky flint fodder-ed my arden away :(
I have a R+ doe @plucky flint will that still work
Can I get line up help
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca/Rosaline @haughty tide
In that order?
Yes, in that order.
Didn’t work, tasi against Brutus isn’t good
@ashen schooner can you give me a suggestion for my line up too? On 12-36 it's not that far up
@haughty tide You put Lucius Shemira frontline?
@vocal sandal Give me one moment.
Ok thanks
No, I picked them in the order you sent
Any suggestions here? Nemora always charms Ulmus regardless of where I place her. Tasi banishes Dreaf. Enemy Tasi gets Shem and enemy Nemora charms my Brutus.
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Tasi
Lyca
Test that and see what happens. You'd be lacking in attack but try it out first and see if Arden does anything meaningful. If not,
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Lyca @vocal sandal
@haughty tide I put it as
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca/Rosaline
meaning Lucius front with Shemira, with Tasi Nemora and Lyca/Rosaline backline.
Ok
Shemira
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora @eager jay
Like that
@ashen schooner that works out slightly better, but the minute Ulmus roots himself it's game over. He starts 1-shotting everyone.
@eager jay have you tried messing around with athalia?
@eager jay I believe you may just need to keep trying a little, maybe switch around your artifacts. Which artifacts are on whom?
@haughty tide Yes like that.
@ashen schooner I have, she's only E+ and doesn't do much
Didn’t work
@haughty tide Try changing out the Tasi for Fawkes I guess. Maybe that will buy you some time.
@outer burrow
Shemira
Brutus
Arden/Lyca
Tasi
Nemora
Reset when your Nemora doesn't charm their Arden or when their Nemora charms your Brutus or Shemira.
That's okay, just test it out a few times and see. Kaz and Arden are your worst threats if I recall correctly from when I dealt with that level. @outer burrow
alright, ill keep trying thx
Is there a way I can rearrange what I’ve got in the line up currently to not get brutally murdered by these guys?
Tried swapping out Tasi for Arden and moving them around but no luck.
@gaunt moth
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Rosaline
Belinda
Test and see.
Any suggestions? The current team does ~12m
@quick moth probably reset Belinda and make Shemira 166
@ashen schooner hmm the first line up works better than the 2nd 1 but still cant make it past it atm
@mellow ledge Raine shouldn't be frontline. Please post all of your heroes.
@shrewd depot Try changing out Lyca for Arden, swap Saveas and Tasi's positions.
@quick moth Please post how the heroes are lined up in the stage.
What should be my main 5 lineup? I’m trying to get some more into Brutus, but I’m not a very lucky guy.
I made shemira 166
@vocal sandal The ascensions may be the biggest drawback but I think with RNG you may be able to win it.
@ashen schooner eh, a little better but top side gets destroyed and Tasi just gets nuked.
@ashen schooner This is the lineup
@ripe karma The meta is Brutus Shemira Lyca Tasi Nemora, so far I'd say you're looking good with that and possibly using Rowan instead of Tasi for now since she has lower ascensions.
@shrewd depot Keep testing it out, Brutus Last Gasp should buy you time to charm Saveas with Nemora. Reset until the charm hits him.
@ashen schooner yeah that's how it feels rn lol do you think I should ascend any of these heroes to use or just continue to wait for nemora to make her mythic etc.
@ashen schooner is it better to use Brutus over Hogan even though he is an ascension lower?
@quick moth Switch Estrilda with Lyca or Arden. Test with both.
@vocal sandal Ascending Rosaline may be a good idea for you, but many will advise for you to wait until you can ascend a hero to Legendary+.
@ripe karma Generally it's better as the Brutus Last Gasp buys you time whilst also letting him deal some damage before his death.
@ashen schooner
Oof. That Estrilda. Try
Nemora
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Tasi @shrewd depot
@ashen schooner I can get shemira from the shop and make her legendary+ but I doubt t she will replace sav unless shes mythic or higher I was kinda saving points just in case I need another wilder to make nemora mythic
@vocal sandal I would definitely say that's a good thing to do but yeah, until Shemira 161 (Mythic) you're best off using Saveas for now.
@ashen schooner
Aight I appreciate the help @ashen schooner
Possibly try
Nemora
Thoran
Belinda
Golus
Rosaline @mellow ledge
any formation ideas? Currently running Lucius, Shemira, Fawkes, Belinda and Tasi (in that order)
Replace Belinda with Lyca for Haste if needed. @austere stag
@ashen schooner I regret to inform you that the lineup I just tried was probably the worst attempt at that stage so far. 😂
Any help would be welcome. Brutus and Khasos tend to be the last two alive
@ashen schooner I will try that as soon as I get her to L+/M. Thanks
@shrewd depot ...LOL just do the old formation a few times and see where that gets you then PM me with the screenshots again and we can go from there.
@warm ginkgo
Lyca/Rosaline
Brutus
Shemira
Lucius
Nemora
Reset until their Arden roots his own team by charm from Nemora.
Gb 80 help
@ashen schooner
Nemora tends to die immediately analog with Lyca/Rosaline. She gets the charm off sometimes, but she’s dead right after it
Help on 20-44
warek hates me
That's okay, just keep resetting and letting it play out once she gets the charm off. If it's not working after a while, send a screenshot of your artifacts and who's using what. @warm ginkgo
@pallid lake That Nemora is setting off his spell shield.
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Reset until Nemora gets off charm on Saveas but before Shemira dies.
Any help?
Do i mythic thoran or leg+ kelthur and isabella?
Any sort of help would be amazing! I’ve been stuck for a while now.
@quaint heath since ur starting id do
Rosaline
Shemira
Khasos
Saveas
Belinda
Anyone can help me?
@quaint heath For now, you can use Thoran, Ulmus, Hogan, or Ogi as tanks. I'd say pick two and use Shemira and Belinda with Rosaline as your backline.
@faint quest
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Just test that out for now.
@vestal lichen I'd say hold on until you can Mythic+ the Thoran but if you use the other Graveborn heroes specified or want to get more ascensions for Graveborn tower, go ahead and Legendary+ both of the heroes.
@pale kettle
Saveas
Seirus/Estrilda
Rowan
Brutus
Nemora
Reset until Nemora charms Saveas.
@ashen schooner thanks mate I’ll try that
@faint quest @ashen schooner thanks!
Saveas
Hogan
Silvina
Vedan
Nara
@hard drum
Put Hogan where Saveas is. Swap Nara and Silvina's placements. @hard drum
Still died tho
Keep resetting. It won't happen in 1-3 tries, sometimes it takes a little while.
Any suggestions? I tried swapping the line up, several times. This is the one that gave the best chance. Banish, charm , banish , charm heal to full while shemira is charmed or banaished...
Need help here, a preemptive thank you to whoever offers it 
aight lets see
@unreal storm Just as something to try flip brutus and sav to the other side to kill Niru first
@mild wing any advice on this stage?
oh yeah that one sucks
lmao
ok lol this is what im using rn tho that was at first, ya its 21-60
I might be able to clear the stage I’m asking for help, when I can get a need again
Yeah
ive been retrying this formation a ton and it hasnt been working out btw
I had lyca brutus front then tasi nemora shem back brutus and shemira to nuke the ulmus
lyca to just hold on
dodge jaz
kaz*
my levels were higher tho....
I remember using arden for sure on this stage
L lyca prob gonna get wrecked in front
oof, i could replace nemora with lyca and put kaz there to dodge the other kaz. Also can i grab ur brutus for this stage XD
@outer burrow do I have you added ingame? you can borrow mine if you like?
i believe i do not have u added but if u have a spot? : D
@outer burrow 3891293
@mild wing nope didn't work
i sent it
Any help I can get?
@outer burrow I honestly think you might be a little underlevelled dude
i thought i was underleveled for 21-4 lol i might really need to level up
i might just wait it out till i get 240 shem and 200 crystal or smthn
u wanna try my brutus or lyca or something?
might work
wont help the level problem but will be higher ascension
could i try out the brutus since he will be over 200 from merc
@dreamy mesa do you have lyca? Lyca arden is a strong combo, nvm i didn't see your heroes
@dreamy mesa try put rosaline in your crystal and save her ult and witch ult
thx
3 hours request it before I forget and give away lol
dw ill be here still at reset unless im eating or smthn
Help please
Optimal team for campaign and raids?
16-36 any advice?
Hello guys
Hi, I need help, I am preety much hard stuck for now. What champs should I now level up? I know, I am underleveled
My current build is Nemo(A**)/Shem(A) /Brutus(M+) /Tasi(L+)/Lyca(L+)
İm going to ascent 1 more hero but couldnt deicide
Stucked between Tasi and Lyca
What would you suggest?
25-10❤️
@forest maple Maybe try swapping Brutus and Lucius first, since Estrilda and Belinda are annoying with their damage in campaign. And of course Belinda behind Brutus. You could also try getting an Arden or Tasi from mercenary, cc is always good
@austere stag that worked thank you 🙂
Who should I use out of this lot? Seem to be stuck
Need help 16-40
Just did three 10 pulls from the summons treasure. Anyone special / worth using?
I've been stuck here for days, could someone please help me out here?
@stoic river Lucius and Lyca are hella good, for sure keep them around
@unreal storm Try shem instead of Lyca? see how that goes
@wicked island she gets deleted in like .5 seconds just like the rest of my team
@potent acorn no lie, ive got no idea lol
@wicked island alrite, thanks anyways🙏🏽❤️
@potent acorn sorry!
That Khasos one shots with the Safiya buff
?
You heard me @wet warren
Could really use some help I'm hard stuck
Ty @wicked island 😁
Stuck 12 24 any help?
Need lineup advice on 9-12
can anyone help? it’s 22-8
Been stuck on 11-24 for a week now, any help or tips?
@ocean island have you tried putting Saveas in the front and estrillda in the back?(estrillda isn’t a tank) Saveas taking damage , means he gets his ult off, and lower his hp the more damage he does, and he also self heals and makes a good tank early game
Can anyone help me build a team lightbringer only I need to know what ones to focus on for best team comp I've tried a few times cant seem to get anyones input :(
@balmy gull why only lb? By spreading out, you can ascend quicker, and get different bonuses
Your front line would be, Lucy, new archer or thane, with Belinda and rain and rose as support with horse girl as a full in back line support
Thanks u so much @rocky crescent I beat that stage with ur tip
I have l+ in every category but I've tended to enjoy lb only with the 25% boosts
I could show you inventory and you could help and I'll play with both and see if it works sec
@balmy gull I enjoy lb as well, but ascending everyone to L+. Your killing your fodder and what be able to get your mythic +.
Fawkes helps a lot, forgot about him. Was trying to build a lb team. I have tasi and nemora for my cc. So forgot about him
So Lucy , thane/ archer front, Belinda as dps( unless archer does better), fawkes, Rose. If archer doing better maybe sub Belinda out for horse or rowen?
This is what I've been running so far and it's worked decent
Archer seems solid but thane and Belinda actually buff each other?
That should work fine then, try switching rowen with Rose. And watch Belinda chain ults
Doesnt make sense because Belinda has same description bust is a higher %
That’s a known bug
Ah I so Belinda does not match with thane so you recommend rose in my lineup and possibly swap Belinda for archer k I can work with that
How about my ss with all races any ideas there?
Gave line up above, switch out and see what works. There not many combos you have with just using lb
Oh sorry I saw ur lb post I didnt see one with my multi race ss
Stuck at 9 28 and bigger problem is that I can’t seem to pull another Lucius should I make a l+ Hogan ? Or estrilda ? Since I need to pass over lv 100 cap...and I don’t have another tank
Help
lvl100 cap? You can pass it already
I need some help in the Maulers Tower
Please someone help me....
@marsh sentinel lvl someone else and put Lucius in the crystal
Okay!
that should get u over the lvl cap
Any suggestions on how to clear floor 80 in Graveborn tower?
I feel like straight leveling will do the trick
@brittle summit u could try kelthur instead of fareal so he swaps with other thane and ur team bursts him maybe
Stuck on 14-37 any suggestions
Any ideas
@lapis fable try rosaline instead of lyca, and put belinda behind brutus
Ok thanks I'll try
@plush kelp let lucius tank, pull out lyca
Ty
@pale kettle whole hero list pls
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nara @pale kettle
@pale kettle I believe you can run Brutus 1 Shem 2 Lyca 3 Nemora 4 and Arden 5 or use nara. Get Arden in crystal maybe? Still useful in chapters 20-21
Dead in 5 sec xdd ok later to upgrade arden
@pale kettle or if you have Arden in crystal now you can try lyca 1 Brutus 2 Shem 3 Arden 4 and tasi 5
@pale kettle
Oh. Okay maybe run the first setup I recommended? and make sure u have good boots on nem
Asking again, because ei can't seem to get anyone to help me out so far. Any suggestions?
@unreal storm your tasi banishes khasos before he kills everyone, right?
@unreal storm I'd just say put Arden in Tasi's spot.
@clear saddle I have problem. I dont have dura for nemora
@pale kettle that’s fine, leave it empty
Lineup for mauler 80? 
Mythic or higher Khasos and Brutus, doesn't matter the backline. Make sure Khasos has signature item. That's what worked for me. @fair sundial
@clear saddle I can't do this. Too faster to die. Just I must to make 200 lvl for all
My Khasos is trash
Won't work
@pale kettle wait for Arden, he’s a life saver
Ok
@ʎɐpsənʇ#2955 no she isn't banishing for some reason
@fair sundial Mercenary him then.
@unreal storm she may be getting staggered from someone else's attack, also i would swap saveas and lyca as he can sustain better and is higher tier 
@unreal storm put her bottom what @steel moat said lul
Need some help with Lightbearers tower floor 90.
@brittle summit estrilda bottom? Does she charge before or after feraels fear?
@steel moat @clear saddle your tips worked, thank you
Which slot? 2 or 5?
Any tips on how I can beat 16-40? 🤔 just tryna get me scrolls and character 😛
@brittle summit what if you try rowan 2 and estrilda 5?
@cloud ermine
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Lucius
Belinda
I haven't set up for a stage like this without shemira before so apologies if it goes horribly 
@clear saddle @steel moat any advice for this level?
@unreal storm Brutus bot sav back bot lyca front
Yeh I’ve made it from chap 13 to 16 without coming on here for help tbh lol @steel moat I will try that lineup
Which five should for an all mauler comp?
Estrilda charges after Ferael does his fear attack.
Ah, that’s no good. Who gets coffined?
Shemira does.
Brutus, Warek, Saveas/Khasos, Safiya, Antandra @slow kiln
Uh maybe just Lucius 1 estrilda 2 and rest the same @brittle summit
have five spots left on crystal, should i use gb or wilder?
Gorvo, Ulmus, Arden, Nemora , and Eironn vs. Thoran, Nara, M shemira, l isabella, and Baden
nvm i'll go wilder since i have sav already on pedestal
Here are my wilders if anyone has suggestions
Ira just up there for the leveling 
Need some help on stage 120 of the Lightbringers tower
@clear saddle still not working out for me.
@brittle summit welp, thats the extent of my knowledge for now then. sorry
Help pls
Beat it @steel moat ty
Um hello?
Put Seirus where Saveas is and try. @mossy scroll
I don't know if this question belongs her, but just curious, for the Arena, what's a line up, or maybe some hero combination, that when you see them you just skip automatically?
@mossy scroll Do you have any artifacts?
@jade swallow It kind of depends on your own lineup. For example, I try to stay away from comps with a high Fawkes or Ferael because my main damage comes from Shemira.
@ashen schooner Hmm, that's actually good to know though because Shemira is my main as well so at least I should look to avoid them.
@mossy scroll Who is doing the most damage on the enemy team? And who is using that Dura's Grace?
Put it on Shemira or Lucius. Try
Saveas
Seirus
Shemira
Lucius
Brutus @mossy scroll
Belinda instead shemira or saveas, she's your main dps lmao
Oof I thought I saw a Brutus, I'm going crazy. Yeah I meant Belinda not Brutus. @mossy scroll
I need help lol
@ancient oasis can you make silvina jump tasi? if so swap out nem for her and put her behind brutus
Move Nemora to bottom backline. @ancient oasis
@toxic iris does hendrik help? or can you take him out, move thane frontline and use rowan back?
@white ferry Change Nemora from Rowan. Reset until she charms him. If Shemira dies too quickly, switch Shemira and Lucius placements.
@white ferry can u show ur whole hero list next time as well? thanks
@Jo#3161ppq @ʎɐpsənʇ#2955ill try
@white ferry firstly, you gotta focus levelling on 1 hero who's gonna be your main damage. in this case its belinda. Use all your levels onto her until the crystal stops you. Then level up the rest evenly.
For your setup, you could replace shem with thoran to tank for a bit longer
@clear saddle Do you think I should get L saveas
@mossy scroll you have belinda already, right?
Yea i do but I am stuck and from other players who are lv 52 are much higher then mine
no like thoran 😦
@mossy scroll If you can get saveas to L+ then straight to 160, go for it. Thats when he really shines. But if your belinda can reach a higher level, then its not really worth shifting levels. But you can still build him L and feed him later when he reaches L+
Oh Sure ill do that Ill get saveas to L and wait so I can get him to L+ to start maxing him
@clear saddle But to do that I have to sacrifice Nemisu is that ok?
@mossy scroll dont do it then, wait it out
Why I dont need nemisu tho ?
No dice
@mossy scroll you never know if they'll buff him later on or not
Oh ok Then ill wait it out
Numisu doesn't really have as many advantages as other support heroes but still wouldn't fodder him.
No, you need another E+ saveas to get him to L+ keep it
Been switching it around can't quite get rid of the front line
@ancient oasis Use tasi, take off all your equipment on her, put it on arden. use Shem 1, Thoran/Brutus 2, Arden 3, Lyca 4, Tasi 5
It worked?
Yes sir
Nice 👍 i try not to let people down 😂
Any good idea to try here I have been stuck
what’s the best team i can make
Need line-up long stuck 21-4
swap brutus and shem and swap nemora and tasi and pray to RNG gods
i run the exact same team and did 21-4 like 2 days ago
I’ve got two open spots in the resonating crystal. Who should I put in? I’m thinking Brutus and maybe Rosaline
Urm how do I get there?
@pale kettle you need to save the village with the fire thing next to it by defeating all the enemies around the village
Help please.
Is it better to ascend my fawkes to ascended +1 or get another unit to mythic? That other unit would be Belinda
Thanks in advanced
@little citrus get as many A as possible.
If your Bel can A then mythic her of not wait
@haughty tide thx
What to do
@pale kettle also, after you have done that, you need to fight the new enemies that appear
What do i do here?
@lilac musk Nothing, wait for one more kaz and make another Arden l plus because you will need an extra copy of Arden
Also, can I have lineup help, the info is above
Pls
How can i pass tower level 262?
Don’t know, not that far , I’m on chapter 15 sooooo
Can you help me? The info is a little bit up
I would use tasi for sure
What lineup should I use
And put athalia on farael
Ok, can you tell me a lineup pls
Might try shutting off shem or the other girl with nemora
Can you put a lineup I can use?
You can go lucius shem tasi atha nemo or hawk
What should I get I’m at 7-23
Dust or Diamonds, pbbly diamonds
Diamonds
@pale kettle Get dimaonds for the 10rolls
Oh okay
Btw what do the chest give
One of the item thats boots your hero but you are still to early dw bout it
Okok
Need help 19-6
Which E+ should I ascend?
I hear the aludar dude in the middle is pretty solid
Did this blindly at the start. Where should I go from here.?
Help please
Move simera into back lines and maybe brutus over lucius to face to ogi?
Tasi can be moved into front without too much fear, but it will leave your back likne exposed when she tps
@harsh smelt baden or the 2nd guy forget his name. Those are the best. I'd also improve your shemira and eat vedan
Can I get some line up advice, i can juggle hores in the crucible thing if needed
@pale kettle put tasi front line and put nemora in as well.
@brave dagger if saevas is L+ then reset your heros and make him 160 immediately. Just need front line heroes to tank a bit to allow him to do damage
@brave dagger I'd probably say saveas, Belinda, Brutus, lucuis, and fawkes is the best lineup you habe
Saevas is L
Any help?
Best lineup?
@faint quest
@pale kettle you can run what's called the META setup, shemira lyca brutus tasi and arden. If this is the case, you should reset your belinda and max your shemira instead
Hey. I'm really struggling to figure out which ones to use most efficient, if i should go for individual strength or if i should go for faction bonuses, i keep swapping gear around but i can't seem to find the most efficient comp (picture inc),
@half basin for now you can run brutus and hogan frontline, with saveas arden raine backline. Faction bonus isnt essential and you shouldn't prioritise that
Ok, considering that, what should i have in my resonating crystal ( i currently have arden, hogen, gorvo and estrilda), should i reset some, lvl up the ones u told me and place some others in the RC?
@clear saddle I dont have lyca or arden
@pale kettle you do have a lyca, 4th row 4th hero. unless its an outdated picture. Arden is also easily obtainable
@half basin for now, theres nothing really. you could put fawkes in. he's quite useful sometimes
@pale kettle also for future reference, dont ascend heroes to L unless they can be ascended straight to L+ or else you risk wasting fodder 😉
@clear saddle unless they're a carry like saveas, right?
Saveas and Arden are exceptions because they are so easily obtainable since they are L+ tier
20-30 is rough times. Any ideas?
Sec lemme see if I can find a screenshot
Thank you @clear saddle
@vernal quail Sorry buddy, i dont have a screenshot for that stage, can you show your whole hero list as well?
@clear saddle i can't defeat 21-4
@ember bane ran it a couple hundred times, test it out
@vernal quail uhmm okay, so i think i probably ran
Nemora
Shem
Arden
Lyca
Tasi?
if that doesnt work swap out nemora for brutus and have the brutus face the lyca
Alright, I'll mash that a few dozen times and see what happens. Thanks!
@vernal quail np, if it doesnt work, tell me what goes wrong then i'll see what i can do
I am still kinda stuck that comp isnt working
@brave dagger what comp do u usually use?
Help pls
Any suggestions for the super evil Mauler Tower 120th floor?
@clear saddle worked well ty
nice
@clear saddle Tried both of your layout suggestions, with no luck from either. I'm lucky to get a single kill on most of these attempts.
Hmm maybe if you run
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
@vernal quail ?
I think if Tasi can survive just long enough to put the enemy team to sleep while Shemira is still alive, I'll have the win, but my best run so far had the reverse happen, with Shemira dying and Tasi ulting immediately after (and then also dying).
You tried the setup i told you just now right? no luck?
That's what I'm trying right now, yeah.
Pls someone help... What should i change can't win
I continue to have no luck on this stage, and it's past 3 AM. I'll poke at it some more later, I guess.
What’s best lineup for Soren?
@rare gale
Tasi
Sav
Lyca
Hogan
Nemora
Read pinned notes at #classic-questions top 3 dots.
@fierce kayak tyyyyy man that worked💪💪👍👍
@rare gale np
@clear saddle do you know a good lineup for Soren?
@clear saddle need line up 21-6 ty
@ember bane shem against thoran, take out athalia for nemora have her bait the silvina and you'll be fine
This good lineup for Soren?
@muted blaze for now thats fine. If you ever get a baden, swap your brutus out for him. Baden is a monster in guild hunt
Who is Baden?
@muted blaze this guy
Oh that guy I have him on my second account
16 36, any ideas, the silvinia just deletes arden or nemora,
Lower tasi's defense, use arden instead of nemo, have shem tank the kaz, arden behind. Tasi behind brutus @serene basin
Any tips here?
@clear saddle i cant find a way to take tasi below arden with out her having nothing
@serene basin Do it
even still 1878 tasi with nothing, arden 1874 lol
Here is my full list of heroes
@serene basin upgrade something for arden then, put better stuff on
still struggling
@clear saddle Ive been running Brutus and Khaos in front Saevas, Vurk Numisu in back
Any ideas?
( 11- 33 ) Starting to run out of slots here, who should sacrifice for who?
@mental thorn just simply get your rare+ fodders into e+ of one person per faction, that should get some spaces
Stuck on stage 7-24. Anything I can do to process more and should I focus on leveling one person or level multiple as I go?
@vestal harbor Hey there!
Try this one out ;
Belinda
Estrilda
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi
@paper heath Try this out!
Saveas
Rosaline
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
@wise merlin You sure Saveas is better than 141 Fawkes?
@paper heath Saveas has better healing power than Fawkes and will most likely survive better against the enemies than a Fawkes, who isn't in any way Frontline, or a Tank.
You could use him however, in a formation like so ;
Belinda
Fawkes
Rosaline
Lucius
Arden
As long as Lucius can mitigate Saveas, Khasos, and Golus' damage all by himself and keep your allies healthy
15-36, any idea? When shemira and tasi ult get off they barely deal any damage and then everybody collapses on them
@tame vigil
Place a Nemora instead of Arden, and charm Khasos, or Vedan (prioritize Vedan)
Formation should look like so :
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
what do i do
Any ideas
@wise merlin I’ll give it a few more shots, should I use duras call or eye on shemira? Without lycas hate it takes forever to get charm and banish off, and Khasos almost kills my nemora basically instantly with his axes
@wise merlin thanks, went to the next boss. Gonna sit here a while.. Want to ask you about usage of New heroes like Gwyneth. Any thoughts?
Posting one more time. Any advice?
@tame vigil I would put grace*, Shemira hardly crits and when she does it's usually by ult, doesn't provide much benefit.
@paper heath Usually, I'd use them if I lack spots im Challenger Arena, or experiment with them in the Guild Raid, see how they are.
I wouldn't use a new Hero in Campaign / MaincArena unless they're L+ tier.
@tame vigil I've fixed my statement ^
@real token Hello ^^ I'll help you rn real quick.
Hey @wise merlin 🙂
@real token I believe that if you'll use a support instead of Mirael, you'd have better odds.
But since you don't have one currently, maybe aim towards another E Angelo, and Ascend your Belinda to L
I can't see a solution other than some AFK, in all honesty. I'm truly sorry 😅
@wise merlin I Beat 15-36, thanks a lot! Now towards finishing 15 and getting my mythic afk drops 😍
You're very welcome my friend, feel free to DM me future troubles I'll be more than happy to help~ 😊 (That is.., when I'm available.)
@tame vigil
Ok, so i've just gotten my shimera up, used all my signature tokens on her, Im running full graveborn team right now. I've worked at trying to mix in Tasi/nemora/Brutus, but They just don't seem to stick around or do enough? Unsure where to go from here. I still have yet to get a single Lucius.
I was also pretty curious on where I should be focusing my efforts of summons now, I've got like 20 faction scrolls ive been saving that I'm not sure if I should just keep pumping into grave to get shimera even stronger, or move on into another faction.
Ill keep that in mind, thanks a lot!
One more thing, do you think I can push for duras blade soonish? @wise merlin
@pale kettle Hey there ^^
First of all : Invest them into Wilders, the Wilder faction has much more benefitting heroes than Graveborns when it comes to RNG (whom wins most games and stages).
Your Shemira is at a good state, focus the rest of your resources on her (AFK wise, and Fodder when available.)
Focus on getting more Nemora's, Lyca's and Tasi's from the faction scrolls (the ones you saved and the ones you'll gain in the future)
@tame vigil I don't know xD
Alrighty, I’ll just have to try for myself then. Thanks anyways @wise merlin
Ill have a better sense of knowing once I'll view the stages along with you, then I could give my own invoice on it ^^
I stocked enough heroes to level a Lightbringer to Legendary status. Should I level Lucius or Hawkes, considering I'm using Brutus, Estrilda, Hawkes, Belinda and Saveas in my main party.
I’m still stuck
Hawkes?
@tulip yacht
Do I need to start worrying about my lineup in Chapter 7?
You should be thinking about how you use your faction scrolls smartly but tbh as long as you are leveling you should find that stuff solves itself by moving around some backlines and rng. @violet coral
You can also drastically increase low level dmg just be stacking one faction for the bonus.
Okay thanks
Any help would be sick, thanks in advance
@stark quartz try to abstain from unnecessary ascensions.. inefficient ascensions will stall you a lot.. and u have a few of those already. your leveling target is to get crystal level 141 soon.. not until u reach crystal level 160 should you be forced to make an ascension. For ascension your target is 5 mythic for now that will take u to 5 M+ and 5 A in the future.. focus on 1 ascended hero per faction first except for the 5th mythic.. if u think about that because youve been ascending a lot of people to L even though u dont need to.. you already stalled urself quite a bit.
My suggestion for 5 M is Brut (already done), Vurk (saveas fed to him in the future), Belinda (hogan fed to her), Shem ( 2 more copies then silvina to her) and then last i suggest nemora... since ur eironn is kinda hard stuck unless u get lucky.. but just plan for now.. if u do it now u make urself weaker for no reason. from now onwards build only Legendary tier fodder L+ until u get these 5 to M+.. if u build more fancy units you will struggle and people who ascend efficiently will pass u in chapters easily unless u spend ur way out.
Any suggestions? It‘s not even a boss stage but I can‘t beat it. Ignore that formation. My usual formation is brutus + lyca front. tasi arden sav back
This was the actual picture.
@solar rover you lack a lot of damage.. brutus wont be enough..
I'd try
Fawkes
Lucius
Estrilda
Brutus
Belinda.
Niru and vedan should be the first targets..
@tulip yacht neither.. you already invested in belinda and estrilda.. right now u need more L+ legendary tier heroes like your morvus so you can feed both ur belinda and estrilda to M.. starting on another L ligtbearer will make u 10x slower and weaker than anybody who did it efficiently. They would have 5 M characters with whole roster level 180 while you have a million L or L+ heroes all stuck on 160. for eg. if you had not ascended ferael and baden.. the moment u get enough copies of shem she is instant M. Belinda and estrilda both will be M if raine was not ascended.. etc etc.
Right now plan for 5 units to take up to M and M+, A in the future.. most efficiently done with 5 ascended units each from different factions (most efficient) and the 5th from the faction u have the most fodder (lb for u probably). Then build only L+ fodder from now on to feed them to reach ur goal.. my suggestion of the 5 are estrilda (shop hero), belinda, shemira(shop hero), seirus(shop hero), and a mauler.. brutus if you can get his copies.. but u probably have to consider building numisu/khasos... this is the risk u take by ascending heroes to L... rng will likely mess u up as with the case with brutus..
@unreal storm lol why do u have a mythic belinda so early? you kinda thinned ur squad unnecessarily.. anyway.. frontline arden will never work haha.. try
Belinda
Lucius/khasos
rosaline
Brut
Saveas.
No guarantees.. but without a decent frontline the wilders will be annihilated.. and L+ hogan for instance will be much more useful than a M belinda.
Yeah that mine you suggested gets trashed
whats the best team i can make
@solar rover problem is u dont have enough damage options.. get your shem up asap. i suspect u fed saveas to brutus.. u just lost 60% of tyour damage if that was the case
@pale kettle can't help you with the best formation but it's unnecessary and a waste of crystal space to put in a hero that you already manually leveled. aka your second sav
focus on saveas. he is the easiest to get to L+ and essentially the best carry until 161. so always level him 20-40 levels above the rest
Sorro
Heyo
@ancient oasis try
SHem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus/lucius/Thoran (whichever buys the most time)
Arden/Tasi
I suggest u reset brutus and put him on ur crystal.. then level ankhira to 141 to boost ur entire crystal to 141.. 141 brutus gets 7 sec immunity.. arden gets triple root.. its very important.. also from henceforth only ascend L+ fodder to feed to your main 5.. any side detours will slow u
@novel adder I'm a newer player and thought Hogan was trash because I'd been told several times here that he was so I fed him to Belinda thinking that she would be more useful because I've heard she's actually good, but I guess I was told wrong?
@dark tundra ❤ long time no see ❤
belinda can be good and hogan is bad. if it's a good or bad decision depends on the rest of your lineup
@unreal storm yeah unfortunately you've been misinformed.. please do double triple check about heroes you plan to fodder... hogan is not trash.. really.. especially not in the level range u are at. don't know why people dont like him.. maybe coz he's the vanilla hero.. he is a decent tank up to level 160.. the thing is this.. having L+ belinda and L+ hogan for instance is much better than having M belinda only at that level.. do not thin out your roster unnecessarily.. the boost in ascensions without the levels to back it up is really not worth at all.. if your belinda is level 160+ then yes.. do that.. but she's only 120+.. also additional L+ characters are crucial to achieve crystal level 140+ you do not really fodder away ur L+ until you can maintain level 141 + crystal..
Anyone can help me?
hogan isn't liked because essentially every tank hero is better than him. he gets his knockdown only at 121 and until then he is useless.
ps: I do have an L+ hogan still at 147
@visual quiver that formation actually looks alright..
maybe estrilda centre and brutus swap with luci positioning.. need some timely crits to break them down maybe..
also try athalia in place of luci .. i think might help with the damage department.
otherwise i think its levels.
but ... that's not even my formation. ... I don't even have equipment for a lb formation
@visual quiver he is pretty strong on stages with multiple 3 or more melee heroes.. knock up and ult hits double or triple.. which happens a lot on earlier stages.. him having ascension advantage puts him on par and better than many.. just compare his stats.. on a triple melee comp he will outdamage ur brutus.. also helps that most problematic tanks like brut and golus are mauler... really.. in fact i was just about to suggest using him over ur lucius if he cant survive to ult..
I only know that I tried him on many different stages and he was pretty early L+ and he was never useful. he just isn't tanky, even with L gear
how u determine useful?
he dies and can't cast ultimate. backline dies too fast and can't cast their ultimate
also luc can ult but estrilda dies too fast so she can't ult. belinda is useless because she ults brutus who has invisibility at the time
@pale kettle id probably run something like hogan golus saveas vurk belinda. But pretty much anything can be run.
I won. no clue how. I hope I don't have to use the lb formation again though. thanks for the help
@visual quiver be flexible in your teams.. wilders are not the best for everything.. bias is a handicap with no benefit.
got nothing to do with bias. I just don't have equipment for lb
faction equipment gives 30% bonus stats so yes, everyone uses the same equipment but they don't benefit the same
25% bonus damage to maulers.. remember that too
I don't know how you get the 25
gear is like 5th in line in what matters
@visual quiver are u unaware of faction advantages?
.... there were only 2 maulers and they weren't the problem
if u say so.
yes, belinda ults a brutus during his invisibility = no dmg. my main dmg source IS a mauler. ofc it doesn't matter
@hard drum does silv target niru (scythe guy)or ankhira (scorpion lady)
I'd try
Vedan
Hogan
Nara
Warek
Saveas
i think silvina unfortunately will mess with the mages coming forward.. have to sacrifice faction bonus to take advantage of niru and ankhira coming forward
Discussion over. Lineup help only, please. I'll be purging the whole previous, thank you Sorrowin for always helping.
Can someone tell me how to build my team?
i was thinking to go with ascent heroes, but than i realise that it will take long time
maybe.... show your hero pool.....?
while i can upgrade my legendary heroes to legendary + much faster , so i can use tham to lvl 160, and than, start build my ascend team. That way i dont lose to much, i can reset tham and get materials back for other heroes
@ancient oasis i'd try
Nemora/Belinda
Shem
Rowan
Lucius
Rosaline/belinda
If vurk poison is not a problem... use belinda over nemora.. nemora to charm vurk if poison is killing shem.
@south pier ss ur hero roster.. will help us out a lot to get up to speed quicker XD
wait, i am new, i dont know shortcuts, what is SS and what you mean by hero roester
ah.. ss = screenshot. by hero roster i mean your hero page.. with all your heroes.. then we can see your whole team, all ur options and advise you specific to your situation..
I was just asking my self is it good idea to build specific legendary untilll mid gamd before i focusbon ascend
do you beed help with that formation?
@south pier
Thane/Estrilda
Hogan
Rawan
Brutus
Sofya
And i like to have in mind something for late game, but i was thinking go with:
Nemora
Brutus
Eironn
Luca
Tesi
@south pier That's a good Team. Ferael is very good in late game too
cool, and do you think i should build hogan to legendary? he is now elite+
@south pier there are some good tips pinned at #classic-questions channel regarding ascensions.. ascensions are permanent so u haveto be careful with those.. i'd suggest to always double triple check on #classic-questions if you are still new.
thx both of you
now that i know i actualk dont waste foders if i get tham to l+ is much easyer to deside
i can ho with hogan to L+ and later on use him as foder
also nemora and shem can be bouth all the time from lab, right? i can use tham as well for fast get to ascend
@south pier yep. first month usually shem and nemora.. most months u'll be able to buy 2.. like5 times out of 6.. something like that
Would Gorvo/Ulmus be of any use?
hey im stuck on 20-30 anyone have any advice?
@novel adderno dice
@winter atlas Can you get an arden into your resonating crystal?
@clear saddle yes, I have 2 spaces
@winter atlas switch athalia with arden, and mess around with the line up order, maybe switch lyca or tasi location with shemira
Do it, then maybe you can replace your athalia with him. Maybe shift lyca top and arden middle
@arctic sage @clear saddle thank you, I will try that
@final star Which floor?
75 @indigo jolt
I have 5 L+ heroes at lvl 160, what should I aim to next? Bring more heroes to L status or trying to get 1 M hero? To get 1 M I should feed at least 1 L+ hero I own and all the group's level would drop dramatically. I don't know how to improve in the game at the moment.
@tulip yacht Typically once u have 160 crystal, you should aim for an M/M+ carry who you can get straight to 200, shemira is usually the one here
transition non mythic heros into fodder for mythic ones
shemira is honestly your best bet as she become s tier at level 161 above
@final star Should work with the above setup.
stuck on 20-30 any advice please?
@arctic sage can you get an arden in your crystal?
you need an arden across from there arden, shemira tanks kha, nemora centre (although tasi is better centre but you dont have), id put lucius tank, and experiment with the bottom, try fawkes
chapter 20 takes alot of retrys, i just finished it today
@clear saddle @rotund wharf no sadly a while ago i used him as fodder not knowing how good cc he was then i have been cursed with not getting a single one
@arctic sage even an R+ one is fine imo, used that ascension level and he did fine in 20
arden is vital, any copy use it mines was only epic plus, but youll need him throughout this whole chapter
@indigo jolt got through with Ulmus, tyvm anw
@clear saddle @rotund wharf okay thnx i will try to crank out wilder tower for the 12 rare summons
try, nemora top (until you get arden), shemira,tasi, lucius or another cc ability tank (e.g estrilda), and a nemora last (would recommend this be lyca if you have her)
owww you do, lyca bottom
This
@arctic sage Typically, i run shem into kaz with arden behind her then fill in the rest. You gotta pray to rng you root the kaz everytime and hope tasi and shem ult at a similar time
Can I use Eironn here somehow?
@mild wraith Try asking your lineup question here 🙂
Got these today can't decide best 5 again, and still have one empty seat in resonate crystal too
Im at 6-12 btw
@final star
Man i always forget to SS faction tower
Lol... it only works if your Tasi can tank Sav for 1 hit. Then you have to hope for nice nem rng.
can someone please tell me if there is any solution to get past 4-32 without leaving the game for a few days? >.>
@mild wraith in future when asking for help here, please send a screenshot of the enemy composition as well, thanks! 😄
i tried throwing everything at seirus, didnt work and i tried makin seirus 61 while vurk 59 didnt work
Anyone have the solution for 19-4?
Having difficulties
@mild wraith firstly, you need to find a carry(dps). saveas is usually the most solid choice. After finding this carry, you want to throw all your levels at him or else you're gonna progress very slow. After you cant level your carry any more, then you level your tank and then the rest. You only ever need 5 levelled for resonating crystal.
i dont have access for resonating crystal yet and i have no idea how it works, however here is a pic of every hero i have, whome should i go for as a carry?
@mild wraith Saveas, 3rd row 3rd guy along
what level distribution should i try? or should i just level him alone
@mild wraith Reset your seirus first, then level your saveas as much as you can. maybe to level 60, then level the rest to 40. Then saveas to 80 and so on and so forth
understood thanks !
@clear saddle mauler floor 69 need advice plz ty
@ember bane Used saveas with my lyca's gear
@mild wraith put your saveas behind ur seirus pls ty
i tried all formations, serius dies in a matter of seconds anyway
its an rng element sometimes you get shredded, doesnt mean its a bad comp. you need to understand every time attacks might hit when other times they wont, sometimes the enemies will critically strike every attack.
i repeated and tried different formations, believe me its not doable atm
move serius down and try saveas behind him, put arden as top tank, if he dies try to wipe the bottom with saveas and repeat
comp wont even manage to kill 1 enemy mob
previously i had serius level 61 and vuk 59 rest lv 1, it was producing much better results 😦
keep serius 61, saveas 61, put it all on them if it still doesnt work wait for more exp
aight
vurk will get shredded by kha, lyca
better results still far from beating it
yeah it will be, level up you arden next to try by your more time
pray arden entangles them, repeat until he does, level if still proving difficult
hmm , get saveas 61, then arden
you want as much time as you can get for saveas to shred,
wts the point of 61 tho? saveas doesnt have a 4th skill
he's your carry, you level him as much as possible cos he's the one dishing out the damage
damn tho, the game is being utterly annoying with resources, is it intentionally a part of the game to go afk and wait until days resit?
yes, thats why its called afk arena.
i go on every 12 hours or when i want to repeat battles until success, its a game of patience to play on the side.
since you're in the low levels you can go on every 4 hours. as its usually enough exp to get through a stage if not come back later
@pale kettle let Nara grap tasi
lol tried that
cool, well then does anyone have a cool guild to join?
@indigo jolt mind posting 80 wilders too? 
@pale kettle try to let Kelthur vs Kaz / nara Grap Tasi for him / isabelia + belinda spam at ulmus
lol I just need sustain so tr dreafs don’t murder me
I’ve almost cleared it a couple times now
try trouble wilders maybe the cc its the key for this stage
if you're in chapter 20, use youtube man.
yea youtube help so much
Or ask the ch20 expert 9 

Stuck on 20-39 tried all YouTube straits. Still stuck
I somehow passed it but I womt complain
@abstract shuttle Is that the setup you are currently using? i'd use arden instead of nemo and run shem into ulmus
Anyone have the solution of 19-6 screenshotted?
@indigo jolt do you have that one or did you lose that one as well?
@broken egret
Hmm, not so sure I'll get it than, only got 160 crystal and 195shem
@steel moat ty anyway, I'll try that layout anyway
You might be able to do it with 200 shemira and 160 crystal, it's mostly about rng and keeping tasi and shemira alive long enough to ult 
stage of doom, get stuck in perm cc until I die while Ulmus heals everything
@clear saddle yes that’s the set I am using
@abstract shuttle You could run
Tasi
Shem
Arden
Brutus
lyca?
Thank you I will try that 🥰🥰
Good luck
@Cordelia I actually alrwady got it with a lot of rng, you also got 19-8 for me?
@steel moat ,sorry other tag didn't work i think
Yep! The key is to put nemora center back so she charms ferael
Brutus would be a better option than estrilda for this though since it's a full graveborn team
I am a bit lost with what I should do with the exp. I just ascended Shemira to Mythic and never used her, was currently lvling Belinda up as my carry. Should I reset Belinda and lvl Shemira up to 180? Or keep with Belinda ?
Thanks in advance
I need 2nd opinions.. :p
Do I go for Ascended+ Fawkes here, or mythic+ Lucius?
https://gyazo.com/62d6e2f99b7308666d51a6aecc9266bd
@gaunt birch Other people may have different opinions but I personally would reset Saveas and put it into your two other carries. Many people keep Saveas 160 til Chapter 15 or so then pump the resources into Shemira.
@brave dragon Who are you intending to use as your L+ fodder?
Waiting for another Hogan, I want to save all ascended tier for lategame.
Eventhough I could power lvl right now, I think patience is best
Ah okay. Both are good choices but it kind of come down to what your team needs. If you need more sustain and support/tank, do Lucius. However if you have a good tanky frontline and you'd like to keep Fawkes for banishment, that's a good route too. @brave dragon
I mean yeah my Lucius melts at 18-32. But I could bump Fawkes to ascended+ , which seems better I guess? For now.
Just need a bunch of fodder
@gaunt birch go reset both bel and Sav, with that take shem to 180 and others at 140/141 doing that prob will carry you quite a few chapters
@brave dragon We can talk in #classic-chat about that
@gaunt birch when above 161+ is all you need, crystal 140. You another frontline tho. Arden L+ 141 is very important w 3 roots, you should focus on him first.
Warek is annoying
Ouch thats a strong enemy comp lol
Succ & Smash
yea, but these are nothing compared to what I've seen at 100+
Wareks are messing me up aswell in tower tbh
have fodder for 1 mythic wilder. nemora or lyca?
@steel moat nice after a few tries got it with that. You mind sending me like a bunch of your ss for chap 19, feels it might get annoying when I keep asking you for solutions
http://prntscr.com/p3efx2 They just run over me like a train
I'd probably say Nemora @hasty dawn
@hasty dawn nemora since he is shop hero. But a good habit is only ascend heroes when they are level cap (except carry hero like shem) so that your options are more open.
There is not a need to Mythic your 160s unless Shem need to go above 200.
Also Wilders cc heroes perform just as good at lower ascension.
@broken egret ofc! Ping me if you need help, i might not always answer if i'm busy but there are plenty of other people here who can help 🙂
@fierce kayak yeah true but isn't nemora's signature item pretty good for extra healing?
Need some help on the 120th floor of the Mauler Tower. I feel like I've tried everything.... even using Skreg (figured that was a long shot, but I wanted to try everything)
@hasty dawn yes. And again.. mythic her anot you will still be able to progress.
If you want.. You can ascend her.. it's fine.
Just like I can ascend Grezhul now to A, but I hold off becos it doesn't serves a important purpose to me. I can still progress, maybe a little harder but still can be done. Who knows I might pull a few Farael later which is a better choice to invest? So if I use it on Grezhul now, I won't have fodder to use on Fareal later.
Unless I need to make my crystal M+ for Shem to Go 240, then I will ascend Grezhul.
I have a feeling that I just need to increase levels and gear.
@fierce kayak i kinda don't want to progress atm im mythic equip farming at chap 16 haha
so i guess you're right, i'll just save the fodder and wait
how does the crystal restriction thing work for overlvling ur carry i've never encountered that problem
@hasty dawn ya.. then wait. A lot of people don't wanna wait becos Ascned hero makes them feels more powerful and happier (me too). But in long run its not a healthy habit imo
true lol dude this fkn game is a test of patience
@steel moat okay great, got to 19-12 now, you got that one for me?
@hasty dawn for example if you have can make Shem Ascended white and push her to 201, your crystal need to be 180. Means top 5 need to be M.
@hasty dawn i do have to say the drop rates seem rather low at 16, doing it a bit later on the drop rates increase a lot it seems
maybe some highlvl guys here who can help me ? i dont rly know what to do rn ._.
that are my champs rn ( playing for ~2 weeks now)
https://i.gyazo.com/108c47499d5560fc3b71910c8289f56b.mp4
i'm fine taking it super slow, i'm f2p so i'm likely to get gated by my team strength either way, might as well get mythic equips along the way
i had to wait 4 days before i managed to clear 16-12 for that sweet mythic equip lol
I don't have a screenshot for that one but i would have ran something like this
Nemora (to charm other nemora)
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Arden instead of tasi will work as well
@smoky cave Not much you can do except do dailys, lvl your highest tiers, stack them with the best gear & upgrade it & scavenge for more food & copies
@steel moat ah okay, ye think I'm gonna be stuck her for a while, the khasos 1 shots both bottom backline units so fight is 3v5 right from the start before they even cc and tasi don't dash away that early on
@broken egret lyca and Tasi should banish khoasos with some RNG. Tasi banish him right?
They don't get that far, his first axe throw at the beginning 1 hits them like legit they die on that first hit
Well maybe when it flies back, but still the 1 throw, maybe I can use something like athalia to block him
gotta love getting 1shot by khasos boomerang
Repost in need of help xD
@broken egret erm.. normally tasi able to banish him before he throw.. not 100% but can be done when keep retrying.
@final star sorry bro.. I lazy to climb tower so can't help u 😂
@fierce kayak okay, I'll give shem boots to tasi and try if it works that way
Toward which faction should I Go ?
@fierce kayak I see what happens, tasi bans lyca instead, feelsbad
http://prntscr.com/p3eoph I want to get off mr Nemora's wild ride
@broken egret arh.. it's bad.
@broken egret have you tried arden instead of tasi? Or using both of them and swapping out nemora?
@fierce kayak on top of that even with 5 star boots it seems that tasi does not banish before the axe throw, she dies every time. Maybe lyca not high enough lvl?
@steel moat ye tried taking out nemora as well, but the main problem is just the bottom 2 insta dying and because of that I don't get to use cc on the enemies, which means brut also gets run over and shem ends up 1v5 and dies quick as well, ult can't heal her enough
How???
Anyone?
Didn't get to attach a message to mine up above, but I'm sure you realize I cant figure out how to beat it 😅
@steel moat @fierce kayak not sure if you guys are interested, but this did it with a hell of a lot of rng and changing equipment to other units
Need help
@broken egret nice, i was going to ask what tier your wilder backlines were but looks like you got it XD
@vast breach looks like you need some crowd control like arden, could you send your full list?
@ornate totem
Try that setup but swapping rowan or thane for arden
Need help with 14-39 team comp from hell
@steel moat got wat???
@brittle maple i would advise taking out nemora and putting tasi in, than putting the arden behind brut I thibk so he can root the saveas. Put blade on shem and call on tasi should do the trick I think
@broken egret If still needed
@ornate totem he messaged me for getting the stage, he advised you to swap certain units
@indigo jolt ty, but no I actually got it, moving on to 19-13 now
@broken egret i tested wilder bec but i even wirs!!
@broken egret don’t have blade yet 😦
@final star If still needed
@ornate totem that surprises me actually, pretty sure you should be able to do it with brut and 3 wilders back, but takes some rng
@hard drum hm you may want a different choice of main heroes, can you send your full hero list so i can see what you have to work with?
@mossy scroll how about this?
Belinda
Seirus/Grezhul
Arden
Lucius
Nemora
@brittle maple ah okay, still advise you to put call on tasi and eye on shem than, since that way most fight shem and tasi will ult at about the same time
@brittle maple Try running Tasi instead of nemora if you have.
@broken egret plus i am not a big fan of wilders dumped my faction scrolls intu LB!!
I put arden in the crystal and hes getting absolutely destroyed by that enemy silvina
@ornate totem ah okay, don't think I can help you than, never used the light bearers much myself, so don't know all that much about setup
I finally managed to get an ascended brutus for this level, but I’m still stuck here. Anyone that can help me figure out how to beat it?
@broken egret ok sorry for waisting time!!
@steel moat they all die to quickly
@ornate totem no worries bro, happy to help when I can
@pale kettle Generally i would say getting a Warek or vurk make it alot less rng dependent, as they will shred the defence.
Do you have safiya?
@vast breach you will need another mage with lower defense to bait her with, maybe you could try lowering belinda's defense and trying this?
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Antandra
Saveas
@mossy scroll i think you need higher tier frontlines, for the moment hogan would not be a bad frontline choice for you if you can get him elite+
@pale kettle i rented a mercenary vurk for this and he melted the enemy
@indigo jolt sadly nope, the heroes you see at the bottom are the only ones I have for mauler faction... After the spider girl they all are food heroes still at lvl 1
@steel moat can you lend it to me today by chance? ;; I have no one with that myth hero >.<
@steel moat Do you think L saveas is good (the fodders are numisu and saveas E+)
@mossy scroll Dont fodder ascended (Numisu)
Sorry the vurk isn't mine T__T but with your warek you should be able to do pretty well on that stage, i wonder if satrana would be effective at all for blowing them up after they ult?
@indigo jolt He is only a epic+ tho and I dont even use him
Sadly satrana doesn’t stay up that long, she gets killed too fast >.<
Just because you dont use him now, doesn't ean you won't later.
@indigo jolt I am stuck at 8-20
Show line-up and hero roster.
What about switching the ascended brutus to the frontline and putting khasos in the back? I swear i've seen someone basically solo that stage with ascended brutus
The ascended Brutus strat is Brutus in pos 3 or 4 i believe, and no other heroes.
Yeah I saw someone solo that stage with o my brutus too, but I don’t understand how they did it! Gonna try switching A brutus with khasos then!
Is only using brutus to prevent the enemies from gaining energy with kills?
Yes.
@steel moat @indigo jolt here I am again, you got 19-16 for me?
@indigo jolt its up there
16 is the 5 mauler one? I don't have anything labelled.... unfortunately.
O that's pretty smart, unfortunately none of my maulers are high level enough to solo a stage 
@broken egret this one?
@steel moat it's this one @indigo jolt
@broken egret
YES I MADE IT CORDELIA
with switching brutus and khasos!!!
@indigo jolt seems like u let silv dash on arden right?
@mossy scroll
Belinda
Lucius
Isabella/Nemora
Thoran
Estrilda
dude, am i underleveled?
@delicate trout Requires someone to shred defence generally. Much harder without.
Merc a 181 + Warek or a high Vurk.
Congrats @pale kettle :D that stage is a nightmare
Yeah but his is only 180, think min requires is 200 A.
but let my try for a sec
Is Athalia worth using in chapter 7? Just got her from an elite shard thing
@broken egret From the looks of it, yes.
Hey all, im kinda new to the game and im blocked. I would like to know what goal should i focus on, and a little help on my team because i dont know what team to play with. If you can help it would be great and rly appreciated.
the only one i can kill is thane 
@broken egret you sir are a genius! Beat it first try with your advice! Tasi and shem used ults one after another
probably can win, but my khasos is jumping anywhere, and the solo brutus strat doesn't work for me 
@delicate trout Disable auto, id also probaly add Warek for Numisu, so you can throw people into Saf zone.
Is Athalia worth using in chapter 7? Just got her from an elite shard thing
@delicate trout lost is right, have you tried putting warek in khasos's position and putting khasos in numisu's position?
@violet coral Athalia is a great situational pick to disable one enemy at the start of a fight throughout the game, so is worth a crystal slot if you have one spare. But i wouldn't run her every fight at that level.
My belinda is 129 and I cant seem to level her up Do i start level my saveas to 120 ? @indigo jolt
@mossy scroll Belinda should be able to go to 140 as is L atm.
I woud say in the short term, you'd be better of maxing Belinda but i may be wrong as my early teams were generally Sav oriented.
Main issue is you are quickly going to be level capped with your 100 crystal.
I would advise you start putting in some Legendary tier units, like arden and your mirael, so you can increase crystal level and they are easy to ascend.
