lineup-help

[still oar]

And save your energy so shemira, luc, tasi and the like can ult from the get g0

[strange meteor]

@still oar this wat I have

Wat should my team be

[still oar]

@shrewd depot
Arden/nemora/tasi
Brutus
Tasi/Arden
Lyca
Saveas
Try charm or root ankhira. Lyca can die after haste. If saveas died too fast try swap brutus and lyca's posts

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[strange meteor]

Also I have mercenary ascended shemira

[still oar]

@strange meteor
Nemora
Luc/brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden/tasi
Switch tasi with Arden and luc with brutus as needed.
Try save your energy at 100% at the end of the battle and use tasi to CC safiya
Recommend relics:
Sun stone, deathly embrace, gb relics and if you use luc try get coral vow(?), The relic that up lb def rating so luc can survive and has better shield

Try manual if could

[strange meteor]

Ok thanks

[still oar]

@lament sonnet
Nemora/tasi
Lyca or tank
Shemira/Arden
Hendrik or tank
Arden'/shemira
Root kaz and arden' and maybe charm ogi or double charm nemora and ogi

Other comp
Nemora/tasi
Tank
Lyca
Shemira
Arden

[shrewd depot]

@still oar I tried every possible combination of that :\ Maybe i'm just not strong enough yet.

[still oar]

How it went? Lacks of sustain?

[shrewd depot]

The bottom half was okay... like I wouldn't say they won but they survived for a little, but the top half just gets steamrolled.

Its probably because my Lyca and Nemora aren't ascended at all.

[still oar]

Nemora can't charm? The objective is to hold the upper flank while saveas cleans the lower @shrewd depot
Try rearrange arts

[pale kettle]

Oh thats the wrong. I already did that. Its this 18-40 who kills me in 15 seconds

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle ur arden will never root at start

[pale kettle]

@sand kindle Yes he did. but to this one no

[strange meteor]

@still oar I tried the team u made and I still dead sadly

[still oar]

Did you try refill the energy first @strange meteor?

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle yea Im talking about that one huh. Go 4 wilds & shem

[still oar]

For that one you can auto

[midnight wasp]

how does one succeed

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleSo erion In place of brutus

[strange meteor]

@still oar I had Shem at full energy

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle let me check if I has lineup saved. There was lyca, arden, nemora tasi & shema

[still oar]

The support? It's important to interrupt safiya

[strange meteor]

Sry no, I'll try that

[still oar]

If safiya can cast her pyramid you are most likely doomed

[violet sinew]

Any way I can beat this or just wait for better merc or level up my brutus

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleok Thank you

[still oar]

The difference was quite big. My team died within pyramid but ruled without

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle here

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleI don't have nemora sadly. I dunno why but the game dont want to give her to me

[sand kindle]

@violet sinew I beat it with 220 or 240 Numisu

@pale kettle are u kidding me? go buy her from the lab store

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleWell I have given all my love to shemira so I was buying only her. Will buy Nemora in the next turn. Thank you

[still oar]

You can borrow her for now

[pale kettle]

Oh yeah I can do that after tomorrow

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle u can go hard way, but u will need a lot of rng.

Arden
lyca
Shemira
Brutus
tasi

roll 1000 times to win

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleyes I have spend many hours trying to complete stages and I have been using Heroes like Brutus, Shemira, Arden, lyca, Raine, Tasi, Fawkes, Erion, And Ezizh. They seems to be great

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle I can feel ur pain haha. I plaed w/o tasi till chap 23

[mystic willow]

What can my ultimate team be here?
I’m currently using :
1 ) Lucius Shemira Fawkes Nara Anthalia
2) Shem Brutus nemora tasi Lyca

Any other nice formations I can try out? Stuck on 22-22

[pale kettle]

@sand kindle Lol I just feel that game doesn't like me for not giving me Nemora. I will buy her tho hahaha

There is no best team. They all depend on enemy stage. In my opinion the best team would be Shemira, Brutus, Lucius, Rawan and Thane To deal dmg and to endure but there is no cc here. If you do a team of cc you still will lack something else. Silvina can easily get behind you and kill your mage, Fawkes can put in coffin you best hero so also Tasi would make your best hero disappear. Arden will root, Ogi will stun, Shemira will silence and be hard to kill, Nemora will heal and charm, Lucius will be annoying af. So you can't counter all of those heroes with only a single team. Its hard when you don't have heroes that you need 😅

[lament sonnet]

@still oar second comp worked thank you!

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle but theres also a META. For mid game and for lategame that will kill 90% enemies on teh way

[mystic willow]

I agree with you and I feel I have quite a decent collection with many variables to use. That’s why I wonder if there is any other good team I can make and try besides the two I mentioned.

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleMid game is easy. Just have Legendary heroes like Niru, Saveas, Silvina and Arden. You will be likely to clear the middle stages easy with them. They op

@mystic willow If someone tell you the best team you may have. Maybe your stage can counter it and not work. I would always ask for the best team to win this stage

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle u can’t use niru at chap 20 huh

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleNo 😂. Im not a miniac casher so the middle stages for me are chapter 9 till 14

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle for me it’s till ur heroes are lvl 200-220

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleouch. I understand now

[trim lynx]

Is Estrilda worth investing in? Finally got enough to Legend+ her from Elite+.

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle and u can run all this stages with meta.

@trim lynx she is good starting lvl 220

[pale kettle]

@sand kindle Is shemira goof in late stages since I have heard ppl in game saying that she becomes usseles

[midnight wasp]

i know my lyca and tasi are low but i'm curious what i could use to pass this

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle still usable in chap 25-27. But main DD becomes Ferael

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleOh that's unexpected. I still haven't got him but I have used him. And yeah I can tell he is annoying with his spirits and fear stuns

[mystic willow]

@pale kettle not looking for the best team, looking for options. Again I agree that different stages require a different counter. I want other strong combinations as a recommendation:)

[sand kindle]

@midnight wasp try 1-5: brut lyca shem nemora tasi or arden

[strange glen]

owo pwease mistew fawkes dont put me in youw box uwu

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle yea he is. Every stage with him or with lyca is a pain

[pale kettle]

@mystic willowwell you got 5 S tier heroes. Brutus, Shemira, Lucius, Tasi and Nemora. I know I'm weaker but that would be my choice :)

[midnight wasp]

thank ya for the tip i'll try em out rn

[still oar]

@midnight wasp can eironn interrupt Arden?
Nemora/tasi
Brutus/lyca
Lyca/shemira
Eironn
Tasi/shemira
Honestly don't have the experience with eironn, usually I just use arden'

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleGreat. I have Lyca. Now I will need him Too. Warek is a trash in early game but I have been upgrading him since I think he is really Untamed in the late stages. He once solo killed my whole team in times of peaks. In my opinion if he gets to make his 12 punches he is almost Unstoppable

[still oar]

@strange glen I'd say use Rosaline instead of Raine but you Raine is m+

[mystic willow]

@pale kettle that wouldn’t give me any factional bonus tho

[strange glen]

god if i could revert her i would

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle almost all heroes are great after lvl 240. You can combine them in crazy combinations to pass stage or tower. But again there’s a meta which will own everything

[midnight wasp]

@still oar depending on how fast he shem and eiron can burst them down when they get pulled in he's sometimes able to counter arden it's all rng for rn though 😂 i'll try out that setup though

[pale kettle]

@mystic willow How much is the 10% Of hp and attack that you get, compared to the attack of Enemy. Faction bonuses are indeed good but I would use them in wizz. I better make a good team than having faction bonuses

[still oar]

Oh GL 👍

[pale kettle]

@sand kindle A Meta like who. 🤔

[trim lynx]

@sand kindle Would Lucius, Belinda, Estrilda, Rowan and either Nami or Saveas be a good comp for campaign?

[mystic willow]

@pale kettle alright thanks for the tip, I will try that team out👍

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle midgame it is 4 wilders shem and brut

[pale kettle]

@mystic willow Ah Its just what I think. It may be wrong. thank you for the appreciation 😊

[sand kindle]

@trim lynx LB combo is pretty strong but u need them with stars. As far as u have Rowan & Rosa + Belinda u are ok

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleFor Now I have bee focused in lightbeares because I need to make Lucius Mythic and Highter. Should I change that

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle depends. Lucius alone is good with almost all teams but I prefer Brutus instead. I don’t know how to play LB team cos I’m personally don’t like them. As for focusing - I think it’s good idea to get A shemira and then rush to wilders till u make tasi, lyca and nemora A tier

[sacred talon]

Guys what team do you recommend me to use (I would like to try out some Wild ones too!)

[pale kettle]

I will follow your tip then.

@sacred talon Shemira, Henrik, Nemora, Tasi and Arden. Thats what I would say if you want wilders

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle u should probably ask guys in #classic-questions tread. Cos it’s only my opinion

[modest lintel]

Quick question. Is baden worth Investing in? Or should I use him to feed into ferael

[valid sparrow]

Baden is one of the best hero's in game

[sand kindle]

@modest lintel don’t feed A tier. Just dont

[modest lintel]

Kk just curious that's all

[sacred talon]

My Shemira is gonna become legendary in a couple ours 😋

[pale kettle]

@sand kindle I was there once and asked how much time it takes for a player to finish his penalty of being muted and no one answered that. I find this # more helpful and since you are a veteran your options are effective

[sacred talon]

It will improve my performance a lot in every team

I just need lab reset

[pale kettle]

@sacred talonShemira will solo carry you on stages like she did on my team. But it seems Im still at early game lol

[sacred talon]

@pale kettle I got my Shemira at lvl. 109 while all my team is at 85 lol

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleHow dmg is supposed to do on wizz a normal team with 630K of power

[sacred talon]

I'm exausting her powers with Rosaline

[pale kettle]

@sacred talonYeah if she can stay alive until that

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle wow haha. Dunno. Hard to say based on power. 3,5kk team can beat 300+ mil

[pale kettle]

@sand kindle Dam that's a lot. I just said that I did 39m dmg on wizz with that power and some players were confused. Lol I use Shemira, Rosaline, Belinda, Raine and Lucius. I said I love shemira so I made this team just to give her power and it was wow

[sacred talon]

@pale kettle anyway Imma replace Arden with Lyca

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle that’s nice team. Try estrilda instead Lucius for more dmg. Or warek if u has him at good ascension

[sacred talon]

Arden is bad until lvl. 140

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle if u have twins use them.

[pale kettle]

@sand kindle I have done that since she gives buffs to all the team but Without Lucius they will die fast because if hight dmg of Wizz

[sacred talon]

Omg I LOVE the twins

[pale kettle]

I love Thane

[sand kindle]

@pale kettle oh yea that could happens. Try belinda-> estrilda or twins

[wise merlin]

Please don't have conversations in this chatroom 🙂 It's meant to ask for help and receive advices. Please head on to #545919777907015684 or #classic-chat depending on the topic

[pale kettle]

@sand kindleI I have her only E+ But I can make her L+ If I have lightbeares. Having Estrilda in place of Belinda would be better for sure. Oh yeah I don't have twins

@wise merlin Oki. Im sorry :D

[wise merlin]

No worries ^^ just a friendly reminder ❤

[jovial jolt]

What would be my best line up for Wrizz

Open to moving heros around in the crystals so it doesn't have to only be my 120 heros

[zinc summit]

Suggestion on a solid team to build around saveas ? I'm on chap 10-3

[grave flower]

@jovial jolt lucius estrilda raine rosaline belinda for wrizz

[brittle summit]

Stuck on 20-21. Any suggestions for this one?

[grave flower]

@brittle summit try
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi
Shemira
Athalia/nemora/fawkes

Thing is Shemira is good enough to tank and u need more cc heroes

[weak jacinth]

Stuck at 6-4 what should i change ?

[shy coyote]

21-1

[grave flower]

For your deck now i would say focus on vedan lyca hogan lucius fawkes, then clear labyrinth to buy shemira and swap her for vedan when shes strong enough

Its still too early to say anything for certain with your deck cuz you'll get a lot of chances to summon new heroes and it'll change significantly

@shy coyote level up more i think

[shy coyote]

Until which lv?

I want to at least push until 21-5 where I can buy mythic+ gears

[grave flower]

Until your team gets to 1200k+

Or just trial and error till u pass

[terse cipher]

Need assistance

[grave flower]

@terse cipher u should use athalia/silvina/anything that can interrupt arden

[tacit kayak]

is there any way to get past 22-8 with a 220 shem? has anyone actually managed to do it with 220 shem before?

[worthy island]

Stuck for days 😦

[craggy talon]

Think it’s just RNG or should I change this up

[grave flower]

@craggy talon pray for arden to entangle ferael all the time haha

@worthy island ur team is low on tier so its hard to survive, try to ascend them more

[craggy talon]

Yea, was close on one run but just seeing if I should put Lyca in

[grave flower]

Try swapping lyca for tasi, put nemora > arden > lyca

[terse cipher]

Lol my athalia is too low and i used my sil for fodder.

[tender vault]

Hey, which should I invest first?

[terse cipher]

Damn. Just gonna have to wait til tomorrows reset and use someones unit.

[tender vault]

My shemira or my lightbearers team?

[grave flower]

Sometimes all you need is getting through the first few seconds, athalia doesnt need to survive, just doesnt miss her skills

@tender vault shemira, lightbearer teams are for much higher stages since they need levels to shine

[terse cipher]

Yea my front line dies immediately while saveas just wrecks everyone else.

[grave flower]

Light are super weak at low levels but they wreck havoc at 180+

[tender vault]

@kie any suggestions in my line up? Im stuck with this

[terse cipher]

Just like the havoc in apex?

[grave flower]

@tender vault try
Tasi
Shemira
Fawkes
Lucius
Saveas

@terse cipher well i dont play apex so... No idea about that lol

[tender vault]

Gotta try that.

[terse cipher]

@grave flower Lol it was a joke. But that line up sounds about right. But to be honest, shemira doesnt start shining until 161. Until then shes pretty weak.

[grave flower]

@tender vault you should put your main dealer as far away from their dealer as possible while your tankiest/cc in front of them to maximize the survivability

[terse cipher]

Until then id prolly swap shemira out for belinda.

[grave flower]

I didnt use shemira until 160 to replace saveas so yeah, u might be right

[tender vault]

Im pretty beaten up.

[terse cipher]

Lucius, fawkes, tasi, belinda, saveas. Since thats your strongest. But always best to have atleast 2 tanks for early stages. But since you dont have 2 tanks id prolly go for that team and have tasi as front line.

[rose merlin]

Any suggestions? This stage is driving me mad!

[terse cipher]

Yea same. Shemira was on standby until i passed 161. @rose merlin brutus, lucius, shemira, arden, tasi possibly

Or swap tasi out for nemora. For more heals

[rose merlin]

Worth a punt. I find he dies so easily normally though.

[terse cipher]

Yea as long as he gets his shield up before he dies you should be good. May take about 10+ tries. But its all about rng in this game.

Oh wait didnt see saveas. Swap him in for arden maybe. But make sure he attacks brutus to get off his immunity

[sacred talon]

Guys do you have a good graveborn/ lightbearer team

[tacit kayak]

i recommend you use saveas as your dps until lvl 160, after that you can use shemira

[cinder crag]

Is this possible? Cuz i can't beat it at least not in time

[ashen schooner]

Which PoT is this? @cinder crag

[cinder crag]

Delves @ashen schooner

Nem can heal shile being silenced by Shem smh

[ashen schooner]

@cinder crag I believe I'm actually stuck on that too and I've got all Ascended heroes 😅

[cinder crag]

Honestly i don't even know why they put stages like this

[trail olive]

Who should I use

[cinder crag]

Does anyone have an idea ? I got decent relics too I just can't beat it

[sand kindle]

Kaz -> Arden?

[ashen schooner]

@trail olive Good heroes would be Saveas, Belinda, Arden, Hogan, Nemora, Shemira. You're overall just missing another good tank, Ulmus can work here and there. Zolrath will provide you with the Defense Hypogean buff.

[sand kindle]

@cinder crag Kaz -> twins or Rosa

[cinder crag]

İs it mandatory?

[trail olive]

ty

[mental trench]

Heeeeelpppp 😭😭😭😭😭

[still oar]

@cinder crag
It's possible. But you might be walled by this

[cinder crag]

Where is Gb boots in that pot?

[still oar]

The non boss one I think. The one you need fire hammer to open

[pale kettle]

This means that Lilith knows how to troll

[ashen schooner]

@mental trench Try replacing Isabella with Elijah & Leilah or Arden.

[cinder crag]

Good game design

[toxic warren]

An idea of what team can i play ?

[weak jacinth]

Help

[ashen schooner]

@toxic warren You can have a composition of Shemira, Brutus, Tasi, Rowan, and something like Belinda/Saveas/Fawkes/Nemora/Lyca. The Wilder trio is easy support for your comp.

@weak jacinth Try switching Kaz to Lyca.

[cinder crag]

This nemora just won't die and if i push harder I will just time out resulting in team wipe.....

[lethal lance]

Hey guys, I'm new in the community (not the game) I'm getting screwed left and right and I'd love some help with setting up the right team

[ashen schooner]

@lethal lance Please post a screenshot of your heroes. 🙂

[lethal lance]

I was just taking a screenshot lol

[cinder crag]

Wow I passed it and 4 seconds were left

[weak jacinth]

@ashen schooner doesnt work:(

[lethal lance]

Tgis is my main team

[ashen schooner]

@lethal lance Hogan Lucius, Rosaline Shemira and Lyca are a good team I'd say.
Rosaline
Hogan
Mirael
Lucius
Shemira

@weak jacinth Try switching Saveas to the middle, you may try
Hogan
Vedan
Saveas
Lucius
Lyca

[weak dawn]

Any suggestions?

[sacred talon]

A good team for Saveas?

[winter arrow]

stuck at 9-32. any good lineup?

(still lacking 2 ankhira for leg saveas)
or should i rather wait till i finish my saveas to legend 1st? (i still have 1-1.5m worth of exp on my bag)

[golden stone]

I'm back, lads and lasses. 21-44 sucks kinda a lot though lol

[sacred talon]

These are my heroes can someone give me a good Saveas team?

Since everyone is saying that's he's good Imma try him out

[winter arrow]

used him on my brothers account, he did wreck everything as long as its overleveled and had decent tanj

[golden stone]

First of all you're going to want to overlevel your Saveas compared to the rest of your team. But maybe something like:

Saveas
---- Henrik
Rowan
---- Hogan
Nemora

could work for you?

Just spitballing, something else could work better

[vital kite]

@sacred talon nemora arden+2 tanks you like

[sacred talon]

Are ya sure? Hogan is pretty bad

[vital kite]

Rowan may be better cause i remember saveas struggling with hp at lower levers

[winter arrow]

yeaa that works. arden 81 is good for 2 roots. swap him for tasi if enemy has a nuker of sorts

[sacred talon]

So? What's the definitive team

[vital kite]

Hogan will just be tanking, you dont want anything else from him and he does his job so i dont think he is bad

[golden stone]

Hogan's decent enough in early-to-mid game. If you'd rather just do 1 tank I'd say you could stick Saveas up front next to Hendrik and do a backline of Nemora, Arden, Tasi.

There's really not a definitive team until you get considerably farther into the game

[vital kite]

Yeah i agree with @golden stone but you should definitely overlevel saveas

[golden stone]

That's the most important bit

[sacred talon]

Are ya sure about Nemora? Rowan heals faster...

[vital kite]

I dont think you will need heal that bad with that much cc

[winter arrow]

depends. just switch between supports based on enemy lineup. nemora is good if you can get the charm on dps.

[golden stone]

Nemora has a charm + with Rowan you wouldn't get the faction bonus. But no, I'm not sure about any of this stuff; at this stage of the game there's a lot of flexibility as long as you have an overleveled Saveas. Mess around with what you've got and see what works for you

[pale kettle]

18-40 need help

[winter arrow]

yea rng plays alot. i managed to luck my way out of 9-20 to 9-32 with 128 shem and 100/101 the rest (my tanks are only hogan and hendrick too since no fcking luck on lucius even after spammin faction scrolls on lb)

[sacred talon]

Oof

Can't ascend him

[golden stone]

Might have to wait until you pull another one, unfortunately

[ashen schooner]

@pale kettle That's the best composition you can have, I'd say just keep resetting. It will work eventually. Send me a screenshot of your heroes and their Dura artifacts please.

[sacred talon]

Well until there my team keeps being trash

[shrewd sundial]

Who should I level next, arden hogan or shemira? Think the rest are maxed till ascended

[winter arrow]

arden to 141? or perhaps hogan if hes getting bursted too fast

also no reason to level shem separately i think. just swap him with sav(reset) when your shem is ready.(i heard 141 is good but 161 onwards is OP)

[pale kettle]

@ashen schooner dura blade on shemira
Drape on brutus
Grace on lyca
Call on tasi
Eye on arden

[ashen schooner]

Switch call to Shem, blade on Brutus, eye on Lyca, grace on Tasi, Drape on Arden @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

@ashen schooner okay

Those are my heroes

[lethal lance]

@ashen schooner @tenickozzy Hogan Lucius, Rosaline Shemira and Lyca are a good team I'd say.
Rosaline
Hogan
Mirael
Lucius
Shamira
This team isn't working, Lucius dies almost immediately at the start of the battle

[sacred talon]

Omg I'm done I tried every kind of team but it always isn't enough to the requiriments of this game

[wind root]

@lethal lance Put Lucius on the back line then. 😉

[lethal lance]

Hmm, I'll trade Rosaline on frontline I guess

[wind root]

A lot of times, just swapping your two front-liners top to bottom can win you the match... Or putting your healer in the middle on the back row. Or even on the side.

[lethal lance]

That made me last a little longer, however I think I'm in desperate need of Lucius ascension

[haughty sable]

Stuck at 9-20 please help

[sacred talon]

I tried using Shemira but everyone says that she has to be high leveled but in that way she almost fights alone then I tried making all Heroes of higher lvl. but then Shemira damage isn't enough...
I tried Saveas but he was not ascended enough...
I'm literally tired of searching a decent team 😖

[cinder crag]

İs this possible?

[lethal lance]

Shemira shouldn't be on frontline in my opinion

[shrewd sundial]

@winter arrow ty

[cinder crag]

Doesn't matter still almost one shot from Brutus or warek @lethal lance

[sacred talon]

Can someone send a DECENT team that don't requires Saveas

[lethal lance]

I use saves for guild fights, nothing else.

[sacred talon]

What team do ya use

[lethal lance]

One sec

[sacred talon]

Note that I don't have Brutus

[lethal lance]

I usually don't use that hero type at all

[untold maple]

Is there any cure for this 13-14 cancer? Those 3 mages are absolutely stupid

I haven't been always using shem, I just reset everyone to level her to 161 in a short bit

[cinder crag]

Any ideas ?

[pale kettle]

@ashen schooner i switch nemora with tasi and I just passed thank you 🥰

[lethal lance]

The absolute best unit I have found up until higher ascension is required is mirael, she trolls with her ult and paired with Rosaline (if she goes to buff mirael that is) she's a monster if you just protect them

I noticed not many people use either of them

Mirael is a staple in my team currently

[covert osprey]

Any idea for 21-37 after the developers screwed up the difficulty by adding in morvus ?

[lethal lance]

I'm useless on that one lol

[ashen schooner]

@covert osprey Mmm, try
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira

[pale kettle]

Who's signature should i enhance 1st?

[covert osprey]

Nope. Morvus fucks it up. He aoe just decimates my team

[cinder crag]

This is even worse lol

[ashen schooner]

@covert osprey Do you have a Nemora?

[cinder crag]

Yeah impossible i give up

[covert osprey]

Yep but elite only

[ashen schooner]

@covert osprey Maybe just try changing out the Arden and placing Shemira there then putting Nemora bottom backline to charm Morvus

[high lantern]

Any advice floor 50 mauler

[devout berry]

17-12

[ancient cargo]

I am stumped on 22-32 and could use some help.
I cannot seem to find the weak spot in their line. Silvina murders my casters, I try to burn Vedan down because he sucks everyone dry, Ferael and Shemira dps everyone to the ground, then Niru instakills them.
I have tried multiple teams and have had no luck.
Any advice?

[covert osprey]

@wicked island have any ideas about this ?

[wicked island]

Try using lucius instead of lyca. @covert osprey

Hold on, lemme get a ss of how they should all be placed. Bare with me.

[covert osprey]

Sure

[wicked island]

BTW what's up with the arden lol

[covert osprey]

It’s rare+ xD had to use the L+ Arden to make tasi from M to M+

[wicked island]

You could try it like this. Lucius will run up and knock ulmus over.

[covert osprey]

Hm alright I’ll try this

Holy shit it seems to be working. I was able to take out ira!!

[wicked island]

:D!

[terse vortex]

What should i up first ? or lyca

[wicked island]

The more they attack lucius shield whilst he has it up the quicker he has his ult.

@dark current do you have a lucius?

[dark current]

Only elite one but i can have a mercenary heroe

[wicked island]

Try and get Tasi mercenary @dark current

[dark current]

Well, i have legendary tasi, it seems better mercenary lucius and my tasi

[covert osprey]

@wicked island what artifacts do you use for that lineup ?

[wicked island]

@dark current use legendary tasi and get a mercenary lucius.

@covert osprey gimme a sec. I'll double check for ya.

[dark current]

Should i keep brutus 🤔

[unreal storm]

I could use some advice here, thank you.

[wicked island]

Yes @dark current

[dark current]

I'm going to wait for the answer the mercenary heroe

[wicked island]

@covert osprey put blade on shem, call on tasi which were the most important ones.

[tacit kayak]

is this even possible with my team, haven't seen anyone with a 220 shem at this point

[dark current]

But ulmus is really too annoying, i really hate him in he's everywhere, in campaign and king's tower 😭

[covert osprey]

Hmm that’s what I have rn

[wicked island]

@covert osprey replace arden with Fawkes. Who does he target with his confine?

[covert osprey]

He targets morvus

[wicked island]

@dark current yeah. It's better to take care of him early before he ults. Then he just becomes a problem.

@covert osprey who does tasi target whilst fawkes has morvus?

[pallid lake]

Any suggestions on 20-39?

[covert osprey]

No one 😂

[wicked island]

@covert osprey OK you'll need lyca then. Try replacing lyca with brutus.

[dark current]

Well, he ults in juste 10-15 seconds so...

[ashen schooner]

@pallid lake Do you know if Kaz heads up or down?

[wicked island]

Then tell me who does fawkes target and who tasi targets. @covert osprey

[dark current]

@pallid lake same level, high five 🖐️

[ashen schooner]

Nemora
Thoran
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi might work @pallid lake

[covert osprey]

Tasi targets tasi and dies

[wicked island]

I'd go with the previous team then lol.

[covert osprey]

Yep probably

[wicked island]

Tbh, you should have held onto the L+ arden. He helped massively in chap 21. But anyway, try with the previous team

[dark current]

Well i fooded my l+ arden, it became too weak

[covert osprey]

Or I’ll try to get a l+ Arden as merc tomorrow

Wait it’s Saturday

[pale kettle]

Stuck on last stage of chapter 10

[ancient cargo]

I am stumped on 22-32 and could use some help.
I cannot seem to find the weak spot in their line. Silvina murders my casters, I try to burn Vedan down because he sucks everyone dry, Ferael and Shemira dps everyone to the ground, then Niru instakills them.
I have tried multiple teams and have had no luck.
Any advice?

[dusky cairn]

Who should I ascend Hogan bcs I can get him to leg+ or estrilda bcs she can be ascended to mythic?

[tepid current]

Any advice for 16-32?

[dark current]

Well this level definitely need to be balanced

[unreal storm]

I could use some help with this boss level

[frosty kite]

i am in a significant amount of pain

[mild wing]

Nemora needs to be mid to charm arden @frosty kite Z

[frosty kite]

aight i kinda just dumped cahracters there

ogi...

[bold oyster]

I would like some help, please

[timid nest]

Anyone know how to beat Floor 245 on Kong’s Tower?

[delicate trout]

haalllpp

[wicked island]

Please post a SS @timid nest

[golden stone]

@bold oyster does swapping your Ezizh and your Hendrik help? I ask because Ezizh is generally not very tanky and because Hendrik is weak to Vedan but strong(er) against Brutus

[bold oyster]

Let me see

Well, I lost, but the remaining enemies were Niru and Vedan

[worldly thorn]

Im having trouble getting past 11-20, anyone know the best lineup I could go for to pass this campaign? Think it's time to go for 160 shemura instead of saveas?

[bold oyster]

btw the level I'm in is the last level of The Ancient Ruins

[delicate trout]

@worldly thorn saveas still can be used till ch-12

[golden stone]

@bold oyster I'd say go for it a few more times and see if you get lucky with RNG. If not you might want to look at getting some more CC in there, like Arden or such

[worldly thorn]

doesn't really change the fact that my lineup gets nuked before I can even kill 1 or 2 enemies, so I'm looking for alternatives

[weak jacinth]

Any Suggestions?

[timid nest]

Suggestions

[unreal storm]

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

[delicate trout]

@unreal storm
tasi
brutus
beli
saveas
khasos

[sly sparrow]

Need help with 16-4 please

[wind root]

I'd go with Elijah/Lailah, Athalia, Nemora, Arden, Tasi, but don't quote me on that.

(Celestials make good tanks and play nice with Faction bonuses)

[steep cape]

I’d try Brutus shem kaz(dunno how she is below 160) then run nemora and Arden. Nemora top shem behind Brutus and Arden middle

Can swap Arden for Lyca if need be. Make sure brutus has grace. Kaz goes against grez

@sly sparrow

[golden stone]

I don't remember that level in particular, but sometimes when I got stuck on levels like that something that worked for me was running Shem + 4 wilders, with either Lyca or Tasi in the other frontline spot and a backline of Arden, Nemora, and whichever of Lyca and Tasi isn't frontline

[tame moth]

Help pls

[golden stone]

I'd try something like

Saveas
---- Brutus
Nemora
---- Khasos
Arden

[unreal storm]

@delicate trout that lineup didn't even come close unfortunately, thank you for trying to help me though.

[sacred talon]

Guys I'm nearly quitting the game because I can't find any good formations please can someone tell me what can I do with these heroes.
I desperately need help

[steep cape]

@sacred talon you have no pictures...

[sacred talon]

Wait a sec that slow mode is not helping

@steep cape

Here you go

I'm stuck at stage 7-36 and floor 96

[broken egret]

Any ideas? Campaign 18-32

[sacred talon]

Guys please

[broken egret]

@sacred talon run a comp with arden, tasi, nemora/lyca in the back and saveas and hogan/golus or another tank in front. Try and have saveas at least 20-40 levels ahead of the others

[sacred talon]

I can't he's only elite

Guys any other ideas

Uh

[tidal pelican]

Any suggestions for beatintg this?

[solid steppe]

Stuck on 8-40 any ideas?

[wicked island]

@solid steppe swap lucius and silv around

tbh, instead of silv use arden

[solid steppe]

I tried that he gets popped b4 he roots

[wicked island]

is nara able to root enemy silvina?

grab*

[solid steppe]

Yes that's why i use her

[wicked island]

ok so lemme get a ss on how it should look like. gimme a sec.

[golden stone]

could you switch gear around so that Arden doesn't have lowest defense?

[solid steppe]

From belinda?

[golden stone]

I guess it would be her as she's the only other mage, yeah. Not saying it'll definitely work, but it's a thought

[solid steppe]

Okay

[wicked island]

Try it like this, silv shouldnt touch him if hes across.

[golden stone]

aw look at the lil babby arden

lol that should work tho

[west kiln]

Any suggestions I have been stuck for a min

[random verge]

Any ideas?

[still oar]

Try
Luc/estrilda
Lyca
Rosaline
Brutus
Belinda
Try burst both saveas and brutus

[outer solstice]

Some tips boys? Im stuck

[wicked island]

@outer solstice Who is that fawkes targetting with his confine?

[wicked island]

I mean, who is fawkes confining in the stage

[outer solstice]

@wicked island lyca

[wicked island]

swap rosaline out for athalia

lemme get a SS of how it should look like, hold on

[golden stone]

then maybe Athalia on Arden?

[wicked island]

yea

that kaz is prob messing shem up

[golden stone]

i swear that's kaz's #1 job is eating shemira for breakfast

[outer solstice]

Yeah

[wicked island]

@outer solstice try it like that

[outer solstice]

Okay

[wicked island]

try it a few times

[mild wing]

`I like lyca on ogi, can lucius on kaz and shem back

[outer solstice]

@wicked island not working at all

[wicked island]

Try Tugey's way

[outer solstice]

guess i'm too weak, my frontline can not hold enough

[wicked pelican]

any tips would be appreciated 😔 16-40

[still oar]

@wicked pelican
Nemora. Or nemora
Brutus. Lyca
Lyca. Shemira
Shemira. Brutus
Arden. Arden
Arden should root Arden and kaz while nemora charm ogi or nemora

[wicked pelican]

it worked, thank you ❤

[fleet kernel]

Arden ult absolutely destroys me every time. My Arden doesn't do anything at all. Lyca & Tasi die in 1 shot no matter where I place them.

[fierce kayak]

@fleet kernel then try
Atahlia
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora

[jade folio]

Need a hand here... 10-4 saveas on enemy side is destroying everyone

[fleet kernel]

@fierce kayak Kaz destroys Shem there

[fierce kayak]

@fleet kernel its fine. Ogi kills Shem faster. Is your Arden under gear? Becos with lyca.. he should be able to get the chance to root others first.

Else.. try
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Nemora

[fleet kernel]

He's definitely not under geared. That one didn't work either but it looked like it was better than before so I'll try it a few times for better RNG

[fierce kayak]

@fleet kernel this is a higher chapter stage but similar. Hopes it helps.

[unreal storm]

Any advice for this? I'm on one of my alt accounts.

[charred juniper]

Hello, just starting playing. Which heroes to focus on?

[fleet kernel]

@fierce kayak I'll try this again after the reset in like an hour. Thanks though. I think Lyca and others are a little under geared

[golden stone]

@charred juniper Saveas is a good one to focus on at the start, you'll want to get him to a higher tier if possible. You can go to the Temple of Ascension and add the Level 1 copy to the Level 43 copy

[fleet kernel]

Out of the ones you have, Saveas and Lucius. @charred juniper

[fierce kayak]

@fleet kernel np.. Wilders always a tough match

[torpid moss]

Any help?

[charred juniper]

Thanks

[unreal storm]

Any help?

[spice flax]

I'm not sure how to clear this the spider mage is a poop lol

[random verge]

13-40... looks like I'll have to wait a few days before this possible

[indigo jolt]

@spice flax Change backline to Shem Tasi Arden.

[spice flax]

@random verge I advise getting Arden to 141 asap for 3 CC

[random verge]

Stuck at 140 crystal for a while

[plush kelp]

Any ideas

[indigo jolt]

@random verge Try
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shem

@plush kelp Who does silv jump to?

[plush kelp]

Tasi

[fleet kernel]

Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Arden

@random verge if his suggestion doesn't work try that

[indigo jolt]

@plush kelp I ran that.

[plush kelp]

Ty

[random verge]

@fleet kernel @indigo jolt did it, at 14-4 now. Thanks for the help

[jade folio]

Need help here

[trim lynx]

Is Gwyneth good/how does she compare to Saveas?

[zinc summit]

Suggestions

@jade folio replace Hogan with that aqua dude to get that extra faction bonus

[fleet kernel]

@Fallen_One312#1239 try

Arden
Saveas/Brutus
Tasi
Brutus/Saveas
Nemora

Okay he left the discord already....so that's pointless.

[mossy scroll]

CAN I do it?

is it possible guys?

[pale rover]

@mossy scroll Probably!

Silvina (bonus) or Saveas
--Thoran
Shemira
--Grezhul
Nemora

Work on getting Arden up so you can use him as CC.

[mossy scroll]

And how do I put it as the line up

[pale rover]

@mossy scroll That's the order already, you can interchange Silvina with Shemira if you like. But try it in that order first. Just try to get Nemora to charm Estrilda so she runs through her own team, and make Silvina try to go for Angelo. Good luck, hope it works.

@trim lynx Please ask those in #classic-questions.☺️

[mossy scroll]

@pale rover Thank you it worked after a several amount of tries

[spice flax]

Help with this?

[abstract shuttle]

Stuck on 20-37 any advice would be appreciated

[pale rover]

@spice flax
You can put Shemira in front. Might need to level Brutus up to at least 160, though, especially considering his ascension.

Lyca
--Brutus
Arden
--Shemira
Tasi

You can opt to sub out Arden or Tasi for Nemora and use her charm to your advantage, see what works.

@abstract shuttle
I think underlevelled, you can use Tasi instead of Arden to banish someone and hope for good RNG.

[spice flax]

@pale rover my brutus is purple isn't 160 impossible

[versed canopy]

Hi anyone got tips for 20-30 ?

[brittle maple]

I’m using a 161 M+ Shem now. Is it worth feeding my saveas to Brutus for M Brutus?

[pale rover]

@spice flax You can get him to 160 if you reset him, manually level someone with a higher ascension in his place, and put him in the resonating crystal.☺️

@brittle maple Kindly ask in #classic-questions!

[versed canopy]

@brittle maple depends on what your saveas currently does, if he's no use to you in wrizz or chapters feed him into brutus

[brittle maple]

I did they didn’t answer lol

[spice flax]

Oh so level all my 5 main characters higher yeah I'll do that once my shemira is 180

[pale rover]

@brittle maple You'll have to wait or try to ask again there, this is for lineup help only so as to avoid flooding.

[versed canopy]

Its difficult since saveas carried most people through so many chapters but once you start facing 190+ enemies he just doesnt work anymore

[pale rover]

@versed canopy Lucius would be better there than Brutus. Try this?

Fawkes
--Lucius
Nara
--Shemira
Athalia

[versed canopy]

the thing is Brutus is here because no matter how hard estrilda slaps he will stay alive for a moment

lucius just get stomped if hes not in front of hogan, and even there he manages to get an ult out once every 20 tries

[pale rover]

@versed canopy I think it's a bit because of levels, I always attempt levels only when my frontline is equal to or above my enemies. I guess you could keep trying with Brutus in front of Hogan instead of Lucius.

[versed canopy]

The problem is what do i put in front of estrilda that doesnt get flattened instantly

[pale rover]

@versed canopy I believe I passed that stage with Lucius, Shemira front and Lyca, Tasi and Nemora/Arden backline. But by that time all my heroes were 200 with a 220 Shemira.

[versed canopy]

even shemira can't survive the dps, truth be told it has always and will always be a question of levels but people have been telling me to just level up since chapter 12, theres almost always a way to push through since you just need one win

The comp you talked about seems good on papier but as you said its only when the levels are somewhat close, and after about 10 tries they just all get stomped, lucius dies instantly and the rest follows

[sleek portal]

use arden instead of tasi, put call on shemira

[maiden quest]

Need some help with this (19-31)

[fierce kayak]

@versed canopy

[versed canopy]

@sleek portal what would the order be ?

[violet pawn]

Can’t beat this level ..

[versed canopy]

@fierce kayak gj what was your placement ?

[maiden quest]

@violet pawn drop shemira and vedan and add in two LB or wilders

[fierce kayak]

@versed canopy you can actually see it on the pic. Top down is position 1 to 5

[versed canopy]

Hard to tell the damage are in order

[brittle maple]

Need help on 12-40 please

[maiden quest]

@brittle maple do you have Lyca?

[brittle maple]

@maiden quest elite only 😦

[versed canopy]

@violet pawn reset evveryone and max out shemira and saveas theyll carry on their own a this point, even more if you can focus on just one

[violet pawn]

Really? No tank?

[sleek portal]

@brittle maple arden to 141, put lyca in.

[versed canopy]

@brittle maple try the backline nemora arden tasi from top to bottom

[pale rover]

@keen sphinx Kindly ask those in #classic-questions.

[versed canopy]

@violet pawn yeah overleveled heroes are tanks on their own

saveas and shemira are a good frontline early too

[brittle maple]

@versed canopy negative, once veldan goes to bats it’s game over

[versed canopy]

He just has to die early

[brittle maple]

@sleek portal lyca instead of who?

[sleek portal]

@brittle maple nemora/tasi, wilder trio only works with lyca in it.

[wicked island]

aight

lemme see

@outer burrow is your nemora charming enemy arden?

[outer burrow]

not usually but i think she will, she does charm him but he already roots

[brittle maple]

Completed thanks to a little bit of RNGesus lol

[wicked island]

tell me if she does,

oh ok

use athalia on enemy arden?

[outer burrow]

alright, ill try it

[sleek portal]

@outer burrow i used RNG to go past that stage. FeelsGoodMan. if every suggestion fails then just put nemora at top back and pray for RNG.

[outer burrow]

lol alright ill try cause my shem is gettin smacked

[wicked island]

that lyca is gonna make things difficult for you too, lucius i dont think can knock ulmus over quick enough.

instead of arden try brutus, and put brutus infront of ulmus

[outer burrow]

nemora is charming ira and putting in some work, ill keep trying rnging

[wicked island]

good!

goodluck!

[violet pawn]

@versed canopy did I do this right? Still getting destroyed 😐

[outer burrow]

thx

[wicked island]

bruh

only level up 5 main heroes.

@violet pawn

[sleek portal]

basically there's nothing i could do in that stage, but in 1 of the retry attempt nemora charmed ira right before her ulti, and when she ults she kills everyone on her team @outer burrow

[outer burrow]

i got that too but ulmus didnt drop sadly

[wicked island]

make sure they're around the same level, idk why theres random level ones in there. @violet pawn

[violet pawn]

@wicked island I was told by wylkian to reset everything and put it all into saveas and shemira.....

[wicked island]

wtf?

No, thats bad advice.

Do it equally, make sure they're all around the same level.

[violet pawn]

Sigh gg

[maiden quest]

no, don't level equally, but don't also go as extreme as you did

[wicked island]

Level them equally, have saveas and shem slightly higher.

[maiden quest]

you want to max out Saveas and then level your other 4 evenly (and drop Shemira -- you should use ONE carry)

[wicked island]

No.

You can have two carries.

[violet pawn]

Goodbye diamonds 💎 🙈😭😭

[wicked island]

Do not drop shemira, she's very helpful.

[outer burrow]

lol

[maiden quest]

leveling multiple carries is a poor way to allocate resources

[wicked island]

They'll be fine, ive been doing that since ive been playing the game.

[sleek portal]

why are you stressing out in early game? @violet pawn just level 5 heroes equally and play normally lol. you're probably day 1 into the game

[violet pawn]

3rd day

[wicked island]

Regardless, please dont listen to that troll advice given earlier. do not have three random level ones or w/e

[violet pawn]

Yea rip thanks for letting me know

Who do I use I don’t have anything good apart from shemira and saveas

[mossy scroll]

Arden is good for cc

[wicked island]

Imo i'd use saveas, vurk, numisu, shem and estrilda.

scrap that, use warek instead of numisu.

[violet pawn]

Okay ty

[versed canopy]

@violet pawn an early shemira pull carried my second acc up to chapter 9 in a third of the time ittook on my main, with shemira maxxed out and the other heroes leveled up just enough to push her further, saveas was my carry on my main acc until he got replaced by..shemira

But two carries can be good especially against teams with fawkes or lots of hard cc

[olive junco]

Tower floor 260. Impossible for my current power?

[nimble sentinel]

Anyway I can beat this level? I think I’m just short on experience, I’ve experimented with arden/numisa/saveas spot but my shemira just seems to fall short of destroying all of them

[iron kelp]

12-38 help please

[worthy island]

Need help

[unique magnet]

try to charm arden with nemora and get him to root his own team

[jade swallow]

My team is Shemira, Lyca, Tasi, Lucien. Who should be my fifth: Adren, Nemora, The Twins?

[ivory swan]

So questions about best lineup for Guildboss 1 and 2? I accidently ascended a mythic Shemira and I'm stuck on 16-8 also lol

[violet compass]

Need help please

[ashen schooner]

@plush kelp Have you tried putting Arden in the middle backline? Khasos axes may just kill him even faster.
@violet compass Try
Nemora
Brutus
Rowan/Lyca
Shemira
Belinda

[violet compass]

Thanks

[iron kelp]

12-38 help 🙏

[wicked island]

dw im just observing

maybe use lucius instead of lyca?

have kaz feed him energy

[outer burrow]

ill try, he isnt too tanky for me tho

[ashen schooner]

@iron kelp Try
Tasi
Shemira
Rosaline
Brutus
Nemora/Arden

[wicked island]

have him geared up too

[outer burrow]

ight ill try it and let u know

[wicked island]

aight, try a few time

[outer burrow]

ofc

nah kaz 3 shots him even with half M+ gear

[wicked island]

hmm, try brutus instead of lucius?

[outer burrow]

on it

omfg it was a kaz vs kaz and theirs is better

[golden stone]

rip

[wicked island]

defi possible!

[golden stone]

all about the rng

[outer burrow]

we gettin so close

[wicked island]

aw yeah

[golden stone]

i belief in yuo

[copper wedge]

Hey.

[golden stone]

Usually you want to have your solo carry (in this case Shemira) considerably higher-level than the rest

[copper wedge]

I have no idea how to balance this, should I use different heros? Chang level?

[golden stone]

As far as that team I'd suggest just focusing on leveling up Shemira at least to 160 before you level up the others any more. In terms of other heroes it's hard to say without knowing what you've got

[copper wedge]

Brutus has essentially been a carry. Maybe I need to switch that plan. So if i 160 shakira
...then where to make up for it? How low?

Here is other options of heros

[golden stone]

omg shakira I am calling her that forever now

I'm not sure I understand what exactly you're asking though

[copper wedge]

If I max Shakira. Then how should I balance the rest? How lowm

[golden stone]

Usually you want to have your carry hero 20-40 levels higher than the rest, then have all the others at about the same level

[copper wedge]

Wow really?

[golden stone]

So like if you had most of your heroes at 160 it would be good to have your Shemira at 180 or 200. That might be a good thing to shoot for

[fierce kayak]

@copper wedge Sav is A better carry than Brutus at your stage. For now maybe make crystal 140 first and get Shem 161. Then I will 141 Brutus or Arden next

[jaunty glade]

Hi currently stuck on 10-19 if anyone has advice thanks

[golden stone]

Might try Arden instead of Tasi? Could help you CC the enemy Saveas which would lead to way less damage coming at you, for a little while at least. Also I think I'd probably put your Saveas where your Belinda is, your Belinda where your Lucius is, and your Lucius where your Saveas is

[rocky crescent]

You dieing to quickly, or just can’t get through it?

[jaunty glade]

Front line melting

[rocky crescent]

Switch saveas with lucy, take out Belinda for Arden and tasi with the twins behind Brutus

[golden stone]

Oh heck i didn't realize you had the twins. Yeah do what mwch said, that should work

[pale kettle]

stuck

[fierce kayak]

@jaunty glade Arden to L+ first before other wilders. Try
Arden/lyca
Sav/Brutus
Atahlia (to disable bell)
Brutus/sav
Lyca/Arden
Or
Belinda
Lucius
Atahlia
Brutus
Sav

[wicked island]

whos the main problem?

ulmus?

[outer burrow]

ulmus and golus mainly golus

[wicked island]

take out arden and lyca and put in brutus and lucius

gimme a sec, lemme take a ss

[outer burrow]

okie dokie

[golden stone]

but first, lemme take a selfie screenshot

[wicked island]

@outer burrow

try it like that for abit, see if nem charms arden

[outer burrow]

alrighty, thx

[wicked island]

goodluck!

[smoky delta]

Been stuck on this for a while. These are what I'm stuck since I got them upgraded first.

[wicked island]

@smoky delta try arden instead of thane

[outer burrow]

she aint charmin, since my lucius is weak i might change him for lyca so she charms

[golden stone]

^ or instead of Belinda, but probably instead of Thane first.

[wicked island]

@outer burrow alright sounds good!

[smoky delta]

That doesn't seem to work either :/ I think Lucius dies too quickly. He can't even get his ult off

[wicked island]

swap brutus and lucius

[golden stone]

yeah that's the best part of having a hero whose lifespan is measured in seconds rather than hp lol. if you're ever getting bursted too hard, just throw a brutus at it

[wicked island]

lol ikr

[outer burrow]

doesnt seem to work and geez golus is one hard hitter omfg

[smoky delta]

Faction disadvantage and he gets burst down too quickly. Maybe I should just not use him?

Wait I forgot to re-equip gear on him hahaha

[wicked island]

@smoky delta lucius? have him behind brutus

lucius should knock over whoevers infront

@outer burrow he sure is, keep tryin!

[golden stone]

@smoky delta that could be helpful hahaha

[smoky delta]

Nothing seems to work. Always ends up being a 4v5 cause Silvina is a pain in the ass

[wicked island]

maybe leave it for abit? work on levels. 🙂

[smoky delta]

Yeah I think that's all I can do. Feel like I've hit a wall since most of my heroes have capped at 100 and I'm not getting the dupes I need :/

[bronze holly]

Any line up recommendation? I started playing a week ago. I kind of struggle at labyrinth 3rd floor a lot. Ezizh is dying quite quickly. I also just reset my Belinda in order to maybe replace her with another support. Maybe Arden. Or Rowan as a battery for Shemira? Not quite sure as i'm new.

Ulmus might also be a better frontliner than ezizh

[pale rover]

@bronze holly Only level 5 of the ones you can ascend the most manually and put the rest in the Resonating Crystal.

Hogan Ulmus front
Shemira Nemora Lyca back

Or

Hogan Ulmus/Estrilda (does she survive?) front
Belinda Fawkes Rowan back

Minimum team bonus for the first and 4-1 or full team bonus with the second.

[bronze holly]

Hmmm. Which one would be the better option 👀

[pale rover]

Both are decent options. Try both and see which you prefer, they both have heal and CC.

[jaunty glade]

@rocky crescent that worked thanks

[bronze holly]

@pale rover shouldn't i try to build a team around shemira? because everyone is screaming shemira (and she's honestly outdamaging every unit i have atm). 🤔

[pale rover]

@bronze holly At level 61 Belinda can still damage better than Shemira, people usually build around or with Saveas at that point until 160. Shemira builds start at 161 onwards, but you can choose to go with option 1 if you want to get an early start with Shemira.

[clear saddle]

@bronze holly Shemira is a decent carry, but she really starts to shine at 161. This is the case especially because saveas is capped at 160, but she also gets a big spike at 161

[bronze holly]

i have saveas. but i also have shemira. so what do you think i should do 🤔

[clear saddle]

@bronze holly personally, saveas is a more reliable carry until around ch13 or when you can get your shemira M(which allows her to break the cap at 161). He also has quite a bit of sustain and gains hp back per kill/assist at some point

[bronze holly]

Hmmm. Can you recommend a line up for me with saveas?

[clear saddle]

@bronze holly you can use saveas, belinda, lyca, ezizh hogan/ulmus

[bronze holly]

wait. what about nemora

[clear saddle]

YOu can swap out belinda for nemora maybe, experiment a bit if you'd like

[bronze holly]

the thing space posted was recommending golus for frontline 🤔

[sharp hornet]

Suggestions. Kaz is killing me wholesale

[runic shore]

1. Have Brutus up against Kaz. His roar negates her dodge ability.
2. Swap out Shemira for another Mauler frontliner, like Warek.

[pale rover]

@bronze holly Golus is only really recommended for early frontline if you need Maulers and have no other alternatives. And I posted that.😅

[sharp hornet]

@runic shore shemira is my main carry

[bronze holly]

Oh 👀

@pale rover also. what did you mean when you said team bonus? 🤔

[pale rover]

@bronze holly Look in game, when you're in a campaign level there's a small ! on the bottom lefthand side which states each team bonus offered depending on how many of the same faction you use. It's also in the pinned guide.

[bronze holly]

Oh wow. So it would actually be better to use Belinda instead of Shemira in that first comp? 🤔

[runic shore]

@sharp hornet She’s at a major faction disadvantage though.

[bronze holly]

@pale rover Belinda, Nemora, Lyca, Hogan, Ulmus feels pretty good.

3-2 bonus

[lone maple]

Anyone got suggestions? Or do I just gotta wait til I make my shem myth 😭

[lilac musk]

Would love help in challanger arena ^^

[broken egret]

Does anyone still have the solution to 18-35?

@lilac musk i wouldn't put shem and the Wilders in 1 team, shem can pretty much solo carry the fight. You wanna distribute your power more so you have at least 2 good teams and 3 of possible

[novel adder]

@lilac musk general advise is to split up your strength a bit.. people take one look at your second team and will decide to just send a single unit team and focus on beating down the other 2. I'd try make brutus+ saveas one carry group instead.. something like
Brutus, Kaz, Saveas, twin, Nemora; Shem, Ulmus, Arden, Lyca, Tasi; Lucius, Athalia, Belinda, Ros, Thane; Light team needs a bit of help but should be a decent nuisance if you add fawkes sometime soon..

[lilac musk]

Will try! Thanks!

@novel adder is athalia better then raine?

[sharp hornet]

@broken egret I want to say I moved shem backline and out tasi upfront. I also know I had Brutus out

[novel adder]

@lilac musk ur light team a little weak on frontlines.. thane isn't meant to tank too much and lucius E+ means people will try to capitalize on that.. athalia can tank decently or at least split the damage with thane.. raine doesnt quite fit there for now.. with sig however you can actually run raine with shem and free up the wilder trio to help elsewhere.. people will get surprised by hyperaccelerated ult with shem+raine combo.

[lilac musk]

Will try!

[broken egret]

@sharp hornet okay I'll give it a try

[sharp hornet]

@lone maple what level is that? I ran lucius, rowan and a 3rd lber or brawler when saevas was my carry. Hardly ever used the meta lineup

@broken egret sorry bud I got so hung up on 18-40 I forgot the ones before it

[sharp hornet]

@broken egret https://streamable.com/ht6oi

[jaunty glade]

Any advice for 10-22 with these levels ?

[sharp hornet]

Two different things I found in search history for 18-35

@jaunty glade decrease all your other heros and get saveas to 160 is your best bet

[broken egret]

@sharp hornet okay, but ur levels are quite a bit higher, but I'll give it a try. Prob won't work since my backline gets 1 hit by Kaz and khasos

[sharp hornet]

@broken egret what type of gear do you have on everyone?

[broken egret]

Okay fkc that, was writing it out, but will ss it

[lone maple]

@sharp hornet its 12-36

[final star]

Need help

[novel adder]

@sharp hornet for ur stage i'd try this
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brut
Tasi
your nemora charm should pass before arden root.. so aim to charm him and let him root his own kaz.. needs some tries.. the main problem will be killing them before ira gets to ult even when rng goes right.

[broken egret]

@final star I wouldn't let fareal get pulled, prob better to put Isa in that spot. Other than that I think I would come up with a similar comp, maybe shem front if she can survive and you could put in nara at that point

[gleaming viper]

Hey guys, should I bring belinda to Mythic now? Will it be a great boost for my team? I dont have enough food for Shemira yet

[jaunty glade]

@sharp hornet beat it deleveled everyone pumped sav

Shem
Brut
Tasi
Sav
Arden

[novel adder]

@gleaming viper not really.. what u need is levels.. that will be ur primary point of progression.. pretty sure the hogan as an option to tank is better.. also i dont see the fodder necessary for belinda to L+.. if you mean the estrilda/raine copies.. dont do that.. a decision which will haunt you..

@final star thats tower right? tough one.. nara is annoying.. i'd try something like
Grez
Ferael
Nara
Thoran
Shem
Ferael getting nullified by nara is not nice.. so you feed grez to her and disrupt ira from hitting him frontline..

[broken egret]

Nvm I got it

[novel adder]

@broken egret hmmm.. hard to say.. but i'd try
Arden
Shem
Nemora/Lyca
Brut
Lyca/Tasi
I think nemora option is better.. ideally u'd never want shem taking hits from ira.. but seems like the necessary evil..

woops lol

[broken egret]

@novel adder ty for the help anyway, this ended up working but was high rng as I needed shem to dodge some Kaz attacks to stay healthy enough and tasi to also sleep Kaz, so Kaz didn't dodge tasi ulti

[river quarry]

graveborn tower 60 formation?

[sudden sparrow]

I've been using:
Isabella
Shemira
Nara
Thoran
Baden

But since you have no Nara, maybe use Kelthur Mid Backline to get Shemira on your side so your team kills her faster, but I have 180 crystal, dunno is it makes that huge of a difference @river quarry

[jovial jolt]

Help please

[broken egret]

@indigo jolt do you still have the solution for 18-36 saved?

[hardy pivot]

I need help on 20-54 if someone can, ive been stuck for some days :(

[gleaming viper]

@novel adder thanks for your advice, sure I won’t feed ascended heroes

[lone maple]

The lb worked but now I’m on 12-40

[late cargo]

Hi if someone could help me with this stage so that I can unlock mercenaries that would be amazing

[pale kettle]

Helppppppp plz

[round orbit]

18-40 has stuck me for too long. Nothing I tried so far worked. Lineup in questiion:

my heroes rn

[dim token]

Could i have some help with 18-33 please?

[novel adder]

@hardy pivot try to post the stage and your roster next time.. a quick search got me this for 20-54..
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/615717681311645736/AFK_Arena_2019-08-27-04-15-47.png
generally though charming estrilda and estrilda on ulmus are good options.. dont know what u have though.

@late cargo try
Belinda
Hendrik
Saveas
Hogan
Nemora.
Give it a good amount of trying.

[round orbit]

Had you tried adding nemora to your lineup, opposite of the ferael to charm him @dim token?
What worked for me in that one was:
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Give it a try

[indigo jolt]

@broken egret

[hardy pivot]

Thanks,last time i had asked someone just gave me a ss so i didbt think what i have would matter haha, ill try what you sent hope it works ^^

[pale kettle]

What’s a good lineup with my current hero’s

[dim token]

@round orbit it worked thanks for that

[novel adder]

@pale kettle hmm in future dont try to make your whole roster L.. its very inefficient and will get you stuck.. you are quite stuck already.. read the pinned post in #classic-questions for that..
stage wise.. i'd try
Belinda
Estrilda
Athalia
Kaz
Saveas

@round orbit try
Nemora
Brutus
Nara
Shem
Lyca
or maybe lyca in brut's place and arden/tasi in lyca's place.

@hardy pivot some people keep 'cheat sheets'.. most people don't.. to maximize ur chance of someone helping you, you'd give as much info as possible and make their life easier.. the stage layout, ur options, how close u get etc.. read the pinned post here.. it does ask u to do that.

@pale kettle standard meta climbing team is shem, brut, arden, lyca, tasi/nemora.
you'd swap positioning and occasionally some units too.. thoran/fawkes/estrilda/mehira/athalia are some of the usual suspects for some specific stages. You'd do well to prioritize shemira levels and also stop making too many L heroes as well as spreading your focus everywhere.. its very inefficient.. you'd be way stronger if you focused your investments.. try to stick to one hero per faction first...

[round orbit]

Sorrowin, swapping brutus with lyca and putting tasi there worked for me. Thanks for the help

[novel adder]

@round orbit nice 😄 grats

[pale kettle]

Ok thanks @novel adder

[broken egret]

@indigo jolt thanks for the setup, but I just go the best rng I could possibly have I think, but my full hp shem just got 1 hit by brut ult, so prob just need the 4 extra shem lvls u got

[indigo jolt]

Literally just rng, either had Brutus baited from Shem or she dodged it probably.@broken egret

[novel adder]

@jovial jolt try
Saveas
Skreg
Belinda
Hendrik
Rosaline.
Or safiya in place of belinda..

[broken egret]

@indigo jolt okay I'll keep trying. Also do you know what's causing shem energy to be drained? Is that ankhira?

[indigo jolt]

@broken egret Yes, her poison.

[pale kettle]

I tried that comp I’m having a hard time on 15-40

[broken egret]

@indigo jolt ye ur right pure rng got it for me, shem ult heal went off middle of brut ulti and she just tanked it. You still have the 18-40 solution?

@pale kettle reset Brutus, make shem 180 instead and you can move on at least 1 chapter

[indigo jolt]

@pale kettle Drop Tasi for Lyca, you need Nemora opposite Ferael to charm him.
also, the abvove. Reset for Shem 180, is a better carry then Brutus.

@broken egret

[broken egret]

@indigo jolt feelsbad, I think I'm stuck for a little while now, my nem can't charm before arden root since M boots with no enhance she is too slow I thibk?

[indigo jolt]

Give her Shem boots?

[broken egret]

Lol goot call might work. I'm fkin stupid

[proven tulip]

Guys, I’m stuck on 9-35. No matter what I do Vedan just walks over and one-shots or two shots my gang one by one and game over. Any hints?

[wise merlin]

@proven tulip Hello ^^

Try this one out! :

Rosaline (Make sure she won't get rooted by Arden)
Lucius
Belinda (It's okay if she gets charmed, because of her slow attack speed)
Saveas
Nemora (charm Ira)

[broken egret]

@indigo jolt not sure what happened that fight, don't think nem charmed enemy arden but still got it, thanks a lot

[proven tulip]

@wise merlin thanks, that might be a good direction. Nemora charms Vedan and that directs his damage from me saving me time, but right now I can't cause him enough damage to die before he goes into batform and heals back up. Probably the formation is now good and I need a bit more leveling up to kill Vedan before he goes batswarm.

[wise merlin]

@proven tulip Focus your resources onto Saveas, get him to level 141, it should do you enough ^^

Best of luck!

Infact, even level 137 or so could do

[proven tulip]

yeah but he's a bit stuck and I need to get about 2000 of the hero powder to level him up, but I'll focus on him, thanks 🙂

[wise merlin]

Anytime friend 😄

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle you mind posting all your heroes too?

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle you dont have a lyca?

[pale kettle]

Nope lol

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle you should've gotten one as a chapter reward... did you feed it away... well things just got a whole lot tougher lmao

[pale kettle]

I dont remember

I know I did it once since I was getting mythic

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle Does your estrilda die too fast?

[pale kettle]

2 sec and he dead as hell, I can show u with bluestacks on screenshare

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle would it be better if you shifted your gear to thoran and put him in place of estrilda? and maybe tasi instead of fawkes? i prefer her cc more than fawkes

[pale kettle]

Tasi doesn't use same gear as fawkes im stupid ignore i read it wrong

[clear saddle]

Lol, you had me tripping for a second too lol

[pale kettle]

Should i put belinda gear in tasi?

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle uhh hold on a sec, if you use nemora and tasi in place of belinda and fawkes, maybe you can charm the brutus away?

[pale kettle]

1 of them would have depressing gear

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle its fine for nemora to have bad gear

[pale kettle]

Let's give it a shot then or should i say a staff

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle ok nvm

[pale kettle]

LOL NOPE brutus 1 hitted nemore estrilda and tasi oh wait i forgot fuck wait

ok that went better but still trash

it went from 1-10 = -5

[clear saddle]

Yeah, lyca's haste is super useful, which is why i was asking

[pale kettle]

my friend kept saying lyca is trash you should just throw her in the bin. I know she is...

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle ... your friend is very smart

[wicked island]

Please dont get rid of Lyca. She's great at later levels.

[pale kettle]

when i hit level 120 i got my first lucius

[clear saddle]

Too late

@pale kettle does it ever look close? or is just a complete beatdown?

[pale kettle]

After seeing the amount if beatdowns i get everyone on half but when i had brutus lvl 220 and shemira 200 i killed a couple since brutus is healing and tanking for life and now shemira doesn't have the time to cast her ultimate

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle yeah, haste would solve that issue, lemme see if i can find another solution. If you really want to get past this stage, you could re-level brutus and use eironn maybe?

@pale kettle maybe you could use eironn brutus shemira thoran and belinda maybe? eironn middle back

also @pale kettle if your brutus is gonna be your main source of damage, you could put eye/blade on him, see how it goes. sorry for all the pings lol

[pale kettle]

Yea sure i'll try don't worry it's fine idm getting pinged im used to it, i'm a developer and admin on a discord server im used to it

[clear saddle]

Yeah, just maybe 3 in 2 minute is a little excessive lol. Eironn pairs quite well with brutus carry

[pale kettle]

Yea i know i used it before and it was astonishing

[clear saddle]

My brutus isnt a high enough ascension for me to try that, sad times

[pale kettle]

i see

if i get 2 lightbringers legendary, then i got estrilda ascended 1

OK FINALLLY LEVELD IT

[faint quest]

Any help?

[clear saddle]

@faint quest silvina jumps your tasi yeah? Maybe try

Lyca
Shem
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi?

i guess your ardens def is too low for him to not get jumped by silvina?

[faint quest]

Yea Hehe sadly and Alright will try

[clear saddle]

@faint quest Although its possible to just have nemora be bait for silvina and put her bottom and just let her die

[pale kettle]

i still get demolished but its better

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle idk man, think that might be the extent of my help. if you pull even just an E lyca, put her in. her haste is soooooooo good

[faint quest]

Wow was about to try but the one i had beat it? Lmao

[clear saddle]

wat

[pale kettle]

that guy has less power then me and still is further since my team comb is bad

[faint quest]

Yea rng i swear

[pale kettle]

Maybe if i get my 2 lightbringers legendary i get closer

[broken egret]

@indigo jolt do you also have screenshots for non boss stages? im at 19-3 now

[minor copper]

Ideas on a general lineup?

[olive fossil]

Can anyone help me beat stage 120?

[clear saddle]

@minor copper Do you have a lyca? if no, maybe you can run Brutus Saveas Nemora Lucius and Tasi

[minor copper]

@clear saddle I don't have a lyca but I'll try the other option, thanks.

[serene basin]

Any Ideas? I've tried every combo I can think of

[clear saddle]

@serene basin no arden sir?

[serene basin]

He dies too quick, but I'll try again

[clear saddle]

@serene basin Try this

Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Shem
Lyca maybe
if your arden dies too fast, swap his and lyca position

[serene basin]

Who would I even swap out and where to put them

[clear saddle]

@serene basin did you see it? 😛

Idea is for your shem and lyca to kill the niru super fast, and then have tasi and shem ult at the same time

[serene basin]

Nope, tried both ways I can't keep niru down

[faint quest]

First try legit with a random team oml
..

[clear saddle]

@faint quest niceee

[serene basin]

Any other idea?

[clear saddle]

@serene basin You could try
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca?

[serene basin]

Khakos will one shot arsen

[clear saddle]

@serene basin your tasi doesnt banish him?

[serene basin]

She does but too late and the deathly embrace finishes....

[clear saddle]

@serene basin You have haste right? you should be able to banish him before the axes come out... do u have good boots on tasi/arden

[serene basin]

Yeah in theory but the nimusu keeps hitting arden, with a totem, and even when he doesn't the banishment doesn't last long enough to stop khakos or estridla charges

[clear saddle]

@serene basin If you have arden middle, you just need the right rng to root the numisu estrilda and 1 other

[serene basin]

What dura item should I put on shem maybe that'll do it

@clear saddle

[clear saddle]

@serene basin You cant get blade yet right? Eye is best for now. Blade helps a lot though

[serene basin]

I can try and rush for the blade maybe I got stuck on the one before that but maybe I can find another way to get past

[clear saddle]

@serene basin With 181 shem you can clear vipers marsh iirc

[serene basin]

I was stuck on the one before but somehow the viper marsh unlocked, with out finishing the one before?

[clear saddle]

you only have to do 60% to unlock next one

[serene basin]

Well so much for everything, the game wont even launch, it crashes, it updated and now just crashes....

Just tried restart the phone same thing, any ideas @clear saddle

[clear saddle]

@serene basin did it auto update? There was mail about newer versions causing crashes

[serene basin]

Yeah normally I can go back to it and it's still open, this last time it went back to the launch screen and force updated, and after it finished d it crashed and now won go past the lilth screen before auto closing and crashing, as if I never opened it, ie not open in the back ground

[feral agate]

Can someone give me a wrizz or pvp team

[clear saddle]

@feral agate for wrizz you can use Saveas Baden Belinda Nemora and Lucius maybe. If you get belinda/shem as your main carry you can swap out lucius for rosa

[feral agate]

Rosaline always sucks off saveas so shes not as good

[clear saddle]

@feral agate yeah, saveas doesnt get that much from his ult, and it also has a long cd so until you replace him, dont use rosa maybe

[lilac musk]

Can someone help me find a line up for soren?

[clear saddle]

@lilac musk Shemira Rosa Lucius Nemora Grez maybe? or swap out grez for thane/athalia

[sweet venture]

any advice for my lineup

[clear saddle]

@sweet venture can u show ur whole hero list too? thanks

[pale kettle]

Could you guys please help me out? Its 11-21 and I don't know how to get through :/
What lineup do you recommend?

[sweet venture]

i dont have much other stuff

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle some advice first, you need to find yourself a carry, in this case, its probably belinda until you get your shem to M. Put all your levels into her. she's your main dps. then take out saveas and shemira and put in arden and tasi cos you need more cc

[pale kettle]

@clear saddle thank you. Then I will just afk to get a s#it tons of hero xp to level up 😁

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle could do that, or reset your heroes.

@sweet venture sorry for late reply, I believe it would be beneficial for you to reset your lucius and brutus and dump all your levels into your shem, who's your main dps and your carry. Afterwards, you'll want to ascend your lyca when you've got the time. Then you can run Shem Brutus frontline with Lyca Nemora middle back and arden

[sweet venture]

@clear saddle wow that's a really big change but i'll give it a try thxx

[clear saddle]

@sweet venture Yeah, you're gonna push a lot slower with higher level tanks compared to higher level dps

[spare girder]

Please I need help in clearing this, it's the last boss of Chapter 10 👀 not sure how to beat this. If you're wondering the Fawkes and Tasi both banish the top hypogean mage then Vedan ults and kills everyone but Lucius that's been the trend so far.

[wicked island]

@spare girder do you have lyca by chance?

[clear saddle]

Seems he does not.

@visual.panda/ SuCratis#8810 find a carry, for you, might be belinda, level her as high as possible. this is just generally the case with dps you need to max them or else you're gonna progress very slow. Also maybe try using tasi isntead of fawkes? her cc is much better imo

[wicked island]

Was thinking maybe merc

[sonic portal]

Any suggestions on which other 3 to use with Shem and Brutus? Or who to go for next?

[clear saddle]

@sonic portal lyca tasi arden

[spare girder]

@wicked island No but I can Merc Lyca I guess

[sonic portal]

Currently at 16-12. I usually try a mix of Lyca/Tasi/Arden/Sav

[wicked island]

Just a tip, having lyca on a team with tasi and fawkes will help them both target differently. @spare girder

[sonic portal]

Should I give up on using Sav where I'm at right now?

[clear saddle]

@sonic portal yes, your shem will outperform him almost everywhere. only exception is mauler tower where he is still useful

[spare girder]

Should I drop Grezhul and use Hendrik or Thoran?

[sonic portal]

Thanks @clear saddle . I'll try to work on getting my wilders a bit stronger, they die really fast

[charred juniper]

Hello. This is my current box any advice on a team to general propose? Do I need a healer?

[deft nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/619836785396285440/Screenshot_2019-09-07-12-08-24.png?width=360&height=640
any tips for beat this? tried like 50 times but shemira can't survive

[clear saddle]

@deft nest do you have 4* M boots on nemora? cos im pretty sure thats the benchmark for her to charm first

[deft nest]

no.. she has a terrible gear, still L+

[clear saddle]

@deft nest you need 3/4* M boots for her to charm first im afraid, maybe swap stuff around?

[deft nest]

i checked right now all my heroes and just realize don't have any boots mythic for mage kappa

[charred juniper]

Forgot to upload my box 😂

[clear saddle]

@deft nest well sir, you're gonna need to get some. mage boots are the most important part

[charred juniper]

Any advice on my team. Do I need a healer?

[clear saddle]

No, you should be fine for now. you can use sav brutus lucius ira and arden

[deft nest]

k, i will buy one with guild points soon

[spare girder]

You have Baden that's so nice, he's so nice @clear saddle your DP is from Game of Laplace yeah?

[charred juniper]

Thanks

[clear saddle]

@deft nest GL, hope you get the right fac

[rain zinc]

Anything I could do different for this wilder only team?

[clear saddle]

@rain zinc not sure why you're going full wilder, but you have no dps, you need a kaz or eironn in there fo rthat

[wicked pelican]

i need help with 17-20 😔 silvina jumps on tasi and she usually gets oneshotted

[clear saddle]

@wicked pelican think if you put shem frontline, she'll get staggered by kaz and chain the isabella so your tasi wont get zapped

Give it a shot maybe?

[broken egret]

Ideas?

[clear saddle]

@broken egret arden middle instead of bottom?

[indigo jolt]

@broken egret Dont have saved.
Try
Arden
brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Shem

[clear saddle]

@broken egret Running shem into golus is usually good if you can have an arden that can reliably root him. Need good rng so that he gets rooted and shem can ult

[broken egret]

okay ill try those in a bit ty @clear saddle @indigo jolt

[indigo jolt]

@wicked pelican I ran something slightly weird, Nemora is the tasi bait.

[opal gulch]

Use Brutus instead of Brutus nemora instead of tasi. Brutus Shem Arden nemora lyca

[clear saddle]

@wicked bobcat does ur arden root first

[final star]

Should I use Grez instead of Raine ?

[opal gulch]

@final staruse Baden instead of raine

[final star]

No Baden sadly, I should stick with this then?

[opal gulch]

Estrilda instead of Raine then

[indigo jolt]

I use excatly that setup.

[final star]

Aight will try

[opal gulch]

Estrilda damage buff is good

[indigo jolt]

Keeping Rosa alive longer i found is better generally..

[ornate totem]

Shod i replase lucius whit brutus or keep lucius for faction bonus??

[indigo jolt]

I would honestly drop Thane for some cc.

[opal gulch]

@ornate totem do u have fawkes?

[clear saddle]

@ornate totem drop thane for lyca

[opal gulch]

If not start buying Fawkes from challenger store cus if ur using LB and GB main u need a CC ahhh ok

[ornate totem]

Fawkes only Epic+ can get to leg+ but no fodder!!

[ionic quest]

Well I guess I’m stuck here. Any ideas?

[dense badger]

@ornate totem Better stick to 3 Wilder, Brutus, Shem. Shem depends highly on CC

[clear saddle]

@dense badger he hates meta team for some odd reason

[opal gulch]

@dense badger heh let him do what he wants he does not want meta build

LB support instead of WILDERS support is good as well so it's fine

[wicked pelican]

i got it, thanks for the help @clear saddle @indigo jolt

[clear saddle]

@wicked pelican nice, gl further 👍

[wicked bobcat]

@clear saddle Nope

[indigo jolt]

@wicked bobcat

[night gorge]

If i wanted to base my arenateam around lightbringers +Ath maybe, what would be a good mix?

[clear saddle]

@wicked bobcat if you want arden to root first, you run lyca into ogi and arden top back, then adjust the rest accordingly

[dense badger]

@ionic quest try:
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Arden

[wicked bobcat]

@clear saddle That failed.

[indigo jolt]

@wicked bobcat It you only run it once im not suprised.

[runic tundra]

[wicked bobcat]

It never even does a thing after by now 20 tries.

[clear saddle]

@wicked bobcat its ok dude, some stages i run a couple hundred times

[frosty crescent]

As a free player, do I have a choice on my lineup team.. Or it has to be Shem/Brutus/Nemora/Lyca/Tasi ? (Cause Shem is in lab token as Nemora, Lyca and Tasi can stay L+, and need luck for Butus)

[wise merlin]

@frosty crescent That is, unless you're extremely lucky with pulls and can manage to receive one of the heroes that aren't manually purchasable by ingame currency and get them to a high enough Ascension tier and gear, I'm afraid that the easiest way to progress is by the meta team.

[umbral badger]

20-4 is impassable.
Can't kill even one enemy.
Wilder trio can't charm Vurk, who is regularly melting 2-3 heroes.
I've run out of ideas.

[frosty crescent]

@wise merlin ok thx. I though wishlist could change the meta for a F2P player, but I guess it's not

[clear saddle]

@umbral badger not into running meta?

[wise merlin]

@frosty crescent Wishlist can help, but when it does, people don't realize that it does.

I'll explain how it works real quick for you ^^ :

The odds of receiving the specific hero is higher, but the odds of receiving an Elite tier hero is the same.

@umbral badger Use Lyca instead of Estrilda, make it go like this :

Lucius
Brutus
Lyca*
Shemira
Tasi

If you'd prefer some faction bonus, I'd go with :

Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Nemora (Specifically to charm Numisu)

[frosty crescent]

@wise merlin Well, I will give it a try with a 2nd account on a fresh server then.
Any advice for a new team game meta breaker ? 😄

[wise merlin]

@frosty crescent Other than whaling, I can't really think of any--...

The wilder trio alongside an all-around mage full of healing and a frontline tank carry who has immunity and lifesteal....

Not only that it's too good, it's also pretty much available to most F2P Players

@umbral badger I've edited the 1st formation ^ Please note ^^

[umbral badger]

@clear saddle Can't due to crystal cap at L180. Meta team on this stage doesn't seem to work with Shem stuck at L200 until I pull one more copy.
@wise merlin I will give it a shot and appreciate your suggestions, too!

[wise merlin]

Anytime. ^^

[final star]

Shem ults quite late, any tips?

[wise merlin]

@final star Lyca instead of Tasi

Haste advantage will be massive for you

[dense badger]

@frosty crescent I would suggest Wilders as safe option for all faction scrolls untill you pick your main dmg dealer.
But unless you lucky to pull dmg dealer from another faction stick to Shem(
I consider trying out: Vurk, Eiron, Thane (yes, I'm Thane fan), Bellinda

[umbral badger]

Looks like AFK time.
Team lasts twenty seconds.
Much obliged regardless

[clear saddle]

@umbral badger you can beat the first couple stages in ch20 with 200 shem thats for sure, but thats with wilder trio

[dense badger]

@umbral badger try overleveling Brutus and maybe drop Shem for now for wilders + Lucy for hp tanking

[pale kettle]

Hi all! Need help building my roster 🤣 I am currently at 7-40

[indigo jolt]

@umbral badger 20-2x is possible with 200 M+ Shem.

[sleek portal]

@umbral badger you're definitely not underleveled. just use wilder trio backline brutus face brutus shemira face estrilda backline top to bottom lyca nemora arden, call on shemira

[umbral badger]

@indigo jolt I am so tempted to spend 4800 lab coins on Angelo. I need one copy for the fodder to boost Estrilda from M to Ascended. Will hold off and try another 10 pull because to me lab coins are Shem coins.

[sleek portal]

get M boots on both nemora and arden, if you're really despereate can also put call on nemora for the early charm on vurk

[indigo jolt]

@umbral badger

[umbral badger]

@sleek portal @dense badger @clear saddle about to have coffee but have taken screen shots of all your suggestions (and others) so I can give them a try.
Thanks so much for the advice!

[clear saddle]

@umbral badger np, if you ever swap to wilders, i got tons of advice hehe

[umbral badger]

@clear saddle You're on! I will be trying to build up my Wilders once I have my top five all at >/= Ascended

[hushed wasp]

past level 61 would brutus be considered a tank?

[clear saddle]

@hushed wasp he only gets great after 141, with 7 sec of immunity

[hushed wasp]

sure, just wondering if he is a decent tank past level 61. i get he gets good at that point but im wondering if he is fine now.

[clear saddle]

@hushed wasp he's decent

[hushed wasp]

I had someone warn me from using the twins and shemira untill late game but at least shemira is really putting in the work and letting me progress despite “being shit until late game”

[final star]

Arden is better at this point imo

[hushed wasp]

better then brutus? don't they serve different roles? or do you mean as a tank?

[grizzled galleon]

Help pls

[pale kettle]

Kinda stuck at 15-40, any suggestions?

[sleek portal]

@pale kettle just use the meta lineup..

[clear saddle]

@grizzled galleon

@pale kettle reset your ira belinda and saveas and max out your shem pls, put lyca in crystal and run Shem Lucius Lyca Arden Nemora with nemora being middle back to charm enemy ferael

[grizzled galleon]

@clear saddle ty !

[clear saddle]

@grizzled galleon shouldn't take you many tries tbh, but your ascensions for supports are slightly lower

[grizzled galleon]

@clear saddle will I be able to pass with 180 lvl crystal?

[clear saddle]

@grizzled galleon im not too sure actually, give it a shot. the principle should still be the same

[grizzled galleon]

@clear saddle first try 😃

[clear saddle]

nice one!

[pale kettle]

Need help with best 5, currently stay at 5-32
But just looking for best 5 for general

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle you need to level 5 main heroes for your crystal. (hope you knew that). Then you can run Saveas Tasi Hogan Arden and Silvina maybe. Also, do put all your levels into saveas 🙂

[pale kettle]

Not shem or athalia yet? Alright, yeah i knew, was tweaking a bit before, are you sure i should use hogan?

Saveas is a hard carry till chapter 14

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle Shem wont hard carry until she reaches M and level 161, saveas is the best until then. You dont have many other alternatives to tanks which is why i recommended hogan

[pale kettle]

@clear saddle hmm i see, alright thanks!

[clear saddle]

np, arden gets really good at 101 and SUPER good at 141

[pale kettle]

Luckily i haven't ascend ogi yet, was thinking to get tanker 😅

[clear saddle]

either shud be fine tho

[pale kettle]

Too late, arden ascended x_x

[clear saddle]

Thats a better choice

[shell jetty]

need help ;_; i also tried switching in and out nemora and shemira for fawkes and tasi... they just dropped too fast

[clear saddle]

@shell jetty do you have an arden in your crystal?

@shell jetty If you do, you can probably drop your shemira for arden and your nemora for lyca. see what happens

[gilded ruin]

Need some help 😦 19-28

[clear saddle]

@gilded ruin can u show ur whole hero list as well? thanks

[shell jetty]

@clear saddle lyca got dropped so fast by the hypogeans and mirael but i can try

[clear saddle]

If you have arden, he should be able to stall them

@gilded ruin You dont run the meta team? Shemira Brutus Tasi Arden Lyca?

[shell jetty]

only rare+ sadly :<

[clear saddle]

That should be fine

[gilded ruin]

@clear saddle that team i tried..but i cant figure it out..they dont work for me :))