lineup-help

[clear saddle]

Yeah, for voyage, you need at least fire bringer, that thing is almost essential to any PoT

[regal swallow]

@ashen schooner @clear saddle it’s worse with the alternatives, any other ideas?

[paper wadi]

@ashen schooner

[clear saddle]

@regal swallow didnt expect your lucius to die so fast, maybe use brutus instead?

[delicate osprey]

Stuck on 14-38 all of a sudden:

[wicked nymph]

@regal swallow Check ur private DMs.

[clear saddle]

@delicate osprey i believe you can run
Tasi
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Lyca

[ashen schooner]

Jesus. That Khasos is ripping them to shreds. Arden is dying too quickly. Remove him.
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
Reset until Nemora charms Saveas. @paper wadi

[clear saddle]

Idk, i dont pioneer in saveas carry anymore, so im out of touch kek

[ashen schooner]

@delicate osprey
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira
Tasi
Lyca

[paper wadi]

ok i will try it

[low bridge]

What teamcomp to focus on? I could also make Eiron Mythic but idk if that would be a good idea. Stage 16-40 rn

[fierce kayak]

@low bridge meta team buddy

[clear saddle]

@low bridge for campaign, just run shem brutus lyca tasi arden/nemo. AKA Meta

[low bridge]

@clear saddle So making Lyca Mythic would be worth it?

[clear saddle]

@low bridge just whoever you have/will get more copies of buddy

[fierce kayak]

Hi Everyone, just a reminder. Do post both your enemy lineup/position "together" with your full roster so that people who advise you know what options you have. Thank you, have fun.

@low bridge that's a different story, PM you in #classic-questions

[low bridge]

Arden gets oneshot now, so I think I will use him for food?

[ashen schooner]

He's good late game. I'd suggest against it.

[fierce kayak]

@low bridge Arden doesn't gets one shot at chap 16. Maybe due to his gears

[clear saddle]

@low bridge you can feed arden once you get to ch20 or so, thats when i fed mine, and he still does alright

[low bridge]

@fierce kayak End of stage 16, and yes he does. I will upgrade his armor I guess

[fierce kayak]

@low bridge I mean with lousy gears.. other hero's can't tank damage too 🙂

@low bridge only upgrade M gears btw

[low bridge]

@fierce kayak Well yeah, I only have one M gear atm

[sick pasture]

Stage 20-8. Plz help. I was running shemira Rosaline rowan/Belinda backline. Thane and Lucius front.

[wicked nymph]

@fierce kayak can you help @regal swallow so far all line up helps been a bust cause of a bully Khasos.
Was wondering if a fresh pair of eyes might help.

[radiant minnow]

Hi, can i ask for a team suggestion?

[low bridge]

@fierce kayak He has elite+ armor lul

[fierce kayak]

@sick pasture

[clear saddle]

@radiant minnow firstly, use all ur levels on saveas, ascend him as much as possible, hes gonna be ur main carry. for early game, anything should be fine. you can run saveas hogan vedan rosaline and lyca

[ashen schooner]

Nemora
Thoran
Lyca
Shemira
Rosaline @sick pasture

[sick pasture]

Thanks. I’ll try that.

[radiant minnow]

@clear saddle thanks!

[fierce kayak]

@wicked nymph I don't think I can help much since Mods and Tuesday can't help.. might levels I guess..

I will still take a look and see if there are any new ideas tho. Tq

[clear saddle]

np

his frontline seems too weak. not enough time for cc

[sick pasture]

Can’t believe that worked. Thanks again.

[fierce kayak]

@regal swallow hopefully your power is at least around 300k. Tasi banish Khoaos? Try

Tasi (banish Khaos)/ nemora /arden
Lucius
Atahlia (disable Bell) /Nemora
Brutus
Sav

[hushed wasp]

Any initial tips?

[reef hawk]

@wise merlin yeah indeed it aint working with both formations :(

[wicked nymph]

Boa does have a Fawkes that eats Khasos in the very beginning. But Dracula keeps bullying his other side.

[reef hawk]

Arden is a pain in the ass

[wicked nymph]

@hushed wasp You don't really need to spread out your hero exp/resources out amongst so many heroes. Up Sav ASAP he's a big boi DPS/hard carry.

Me personally recommend getting Hogan as early tank and Golus as well (ya don't have to) and Mirael is pretty legit DPS.

Hogan, Saveas, Mirael, Ira, Silvina

[hushed wasp]

ah. ok thanks

so don't bother upping the whole lineup atm?

[clear saddle]

@hushed wasp Leveling priority is usually Carry(saveas) -> tank -> others

[fierce kayak]

@reef hawk then you should build an Arden too since you now know he is a pain, you lack tank too. 🙂

Try:
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora (charm their Arden, you should charm first since you have lyca)
Sav
Lyca

[hushed wasp]

So, like this then?

[clear saddle]

@reef hawk why do you have a level 100 brutus, reset him, put him in crystal pls

[wicked nymph]

@hushed wasp Pretty much.

In the event where Frontline just isn't enough >>> I still use a Golus in Ch14. I highly recommend getting him.

[hushed wasp]

just got golus. hogan is dying instantly in the new lineup i guess i just need to afk farm to get the new lineup up to snuff?

or should i legit just revert everyone but saveus?

[clear saddle]

@hushed wasp honestly, you might just have to wait a while for levels, your saveas can dish the damage, but you need to tank enough and give him enough time to kill them all

[wicked nymph]

@hushed wasp line up you have now is good.

Tip: Shemira may be a "mage" but she can take a tank on any day in early game.

Also yes wait. Levels/gear will come with time so you really can't rush too much rn.

Side note: pfp is Akame ga Kill??

[hushed wasp]

ehh, it was a joke in another server. anywho. should i put shemira back in the lineup then?

[clear saddle]

@hushed wasp do put your arden in your crystal when you have space, then take out your silvina and mirael for arden and shemira for now

[pale kettle]

Still yardstuck here for a couple days any suggestions? It’s 9-40

[wicked nymph]

@hushed wasp Swap around see what/how far you get. If you really can't get anywhere just wait a few hrs, watch YouTube, take a shower then come back and lvl/gear up.

[hushed wasp]

don't have resonating crystal atm, also who would i swap out to put shemira back in? just as a suggestion. don't want to waste resources so early in the game

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle some advice, its best to focus each hero individually and not spread the xp evenly. find a hero who is a reliable carry for you and for now it might be belinda or saveas if you can get more copies of him. once you find your carry, use all your levels you have onto him. then level the rest evenly after you cant level them anymore. Also, dont ascend heroes to L unless you can get them straight to L+ or else you risk wasting fodder :)
For the lineup, you're gonna need some kind of cc, maybe tasi instead of raine?

[ashen schooner]

@pale kettle Replace Raine with Rosaline and test that out.

[wicked nymph]

@hushed wasp If you don't have crystal right this moment just wait to level what you have.

Your E heroes will have their time to shine once you get said Resonating Crystal.

[twin hare]

Is it possible to clear this stage with my hero options?

[clever scarab]

Any suggestions?

[clear saddle]

@clever scarab can you show the rest of your heroes too?

[wicked nymph]

@twin hare Current level of your other heroes no. As individuals in that line up yes.

Reset your Nemora and Lucius and put their hero exp into Kaz and Mr. Dracula wanna be (I always forget his name).
It should increase your overall hero levels for anyone on the circle.

Try again with the same line up. If the higher levels don't help then I direct you to mayhaps Tuesday and/or mod cause I normally don't know what I'm talking about.

[clear saddle]

@clever scarab pretty sure you can beat this with wilder trio. make sure tasi gets jumped by the silvina.
Tasi
Brutus
arden
shem
lyca

[exotic kettle]

This lvl is pretty hard do u have any advice on how i can pass this floor?

[twin hare]

@wicked nymph thank you

[clever scarab]

@wicked nymph my tasi gt kill in 1 hit

[wicked nymph]

@twin hare Np. Good luck.

Uhhh @clever scarab I believe it was @clear saddle who was helping you. I'm a bit lost on the matter.

[clever scarab]

Sry.. @clear saddle my tasi gt kill in 1 hit

[clear saddle]

@clever scarab maybe use nemora as silvina bait instead? have her defense the lowest and put her top instead of tasi

[pale kettle]

@clear saddle @ashen schooner thanks for the tips guys the rose actually worked and I probly should use Balinda as the carry and put her way higher but the xp required to put her up is so much

[wicked nymph]

@pale kettle Trust me. The hero exp required now is nothing in comparison to late game stuff.

[pale kettle]

I can’t even imagine I have to afk for like 5 hours just for one level

[clever scarab]

@clear saddle try afew time.. Still can't clear.. Maybe I wait for higher lvl then try again

[clear saddle]

@clever scarab Maybe if you try swapping Shemira and Brutus position, Tasi bottom arden top? If your shem gets staggered maybe she can chain the isabella so your tasi doesnt die immediately

[twin hare]

@wicked nymph cleared it first time with lvl 120 team, tyvm!

[wicked nymph]

@twin hare np m8. Just remember to keep those on the crystal as the highest ascension tiers you got. Keep it updated.

[cloud ermine]

Who should I mythic first nemora or tasi?

[clear saddle]

@cloud ermine whoever u have more copies of/will get more copies of although generally its better to ascend nemora before tasi due to defense & silvina and that stuff

[delicate osprey]

Thanks @clear saddle and @ashen schooner for helping me about an hour ago. I eventually beat the stage and have cleared the chapter! Although my secret weapon may have been leveling up Shemira to 181

[clear saddle]

@delicate osprey yeah, the 181 power spike is really useful, helped me get through ch16

[delicate osprey]

Gah my faction scroll rewards always seem to give me all-green pulls... at least I can get my Brutus to L+ now

[clear saddle]

ohh the brutus reward from chapter

[delicate osprey]

No, wilders

Brutus was also a chapter reward, along with the faction scrolls

[clear saddle]

Yeah, my faction scroll luck hasnt been great either

[delicate osprey]

I shouldn't feed my Saveas to him yet, right?

[clear saddle]

@delicate osprey depends, saveas is not used in campaign any more for me, but still useful in faction tower. but if you have a good khasos already, you can feed your sav

[serene basin]

Any ideas?

[delicate osprey]

Yeah I probably need him for faction tower... when does that unlock?

[clear saddle]

@delicate osprey you should have it after beating ch14

[indigo jolt]

@delicate osprey You should of just unlocked in ch 15, check out kings tower.

[serene basin]

Can anyone help me with 14 28?

Been mostly running Sav brut nem, tasi lyca/arden

[clear saddle]

@serene basin pretty sure you need saveas back bottom to kill the enemy brutus and sav right? maybe try:
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Saveas?

[serene basin]

If rng plays in my favor, I'll get close, I tried it 3 times, it left brut vs golus and vurk

[clear saddle]

@serene basin Idk, are you close to getting a shemira or something? your saveas is gonna stop being useful at ch15 thats for sure...

[serene basin]

No, sadly, I kinda screwed my self, /took bad advice, I was told, not to worry about running graveborns since I had already put so much into wilder/mauler

[clear saddle]

@serene basin you'd better start now, your saveas will become redundant very soon, sorry to say buddy

[serene basin]

So should I take my mythic boots to 5 on Sav, it'd use all my gold basically, and yeah I know u fucked up, I'm trying to fix it but I'm stuck for a bit Probs

[clear saddle]

@serene basin dont do that unless its wilder/mauler faction

[serene basin]

It's a mauler faction boot so that was the only reason I considered it

[clear saddle]

Because once your saveas becomes redundant, it'll go to lyca. I'd probably hold off and save up stuff for shem. good thing is, once you do get your shem, you can progress very fast

[serene basin]

Yeah I just don't every pull her and I never get enough tokens to get her in lab

Okay so maybe if I don't upgrade my savaes maybe the armor stuff on Brutus?

[clear saddle]

@serene basin you gotta manage stuff for the future too. sav lab tokens for shem, dont buy anything else, focus everything you have into trying to get her. peaks of time, etc

[serene basin]

Peaks of time give shemira? I kinda hit a wall with PoT so I haven't tried in a bit

[ashen schooner]

@serene basin Peaks of Time: The Divine Realm rewards you with an Elite Shemira.

[clear saddle]

^

[serene basin]

I don't see a divine realm...

Oh wait I'm an idiot I'm doing that one now, sorry

[clear saddle]

7th one LOL

[serene basin]

Just the text and progress bar made it hard to see

Actually now that I see it have the first four dura artifacts, who should I put them on?

[clear saddle]

Which ones are they again?

[serene basin]

Right now I've got drape on Brutus, eye on savaes, grace on tasi, and call on nemora

[hollow glacier]

Anyone who could help me to balance a good 2nd team and 3rd team for legends? I havent done any legends before, but i could use the currency for more progressions. Thanks in advance!

[clear saddle]

@serene basin put call on tasi

[serene basin]

@clear saddle after about 20 tries tasi finally didn't jump instantly to her death, and I got lucky with crits, thank you

[clear saddle]

@serene basin you beat it? nice

[serene basin]

Yeah, finally all based on where tasi jumped and when

[unreal storm]

Can someone please help me, I've been stuck here for 3 days

[pale kettle]

What’s a good colo lineup for me?

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle here's some general advice for you at the start/mid game.
Find a suitable carry, in this case, saveas is the best. use all of your levels on him, hes gonna be dishing out the main damage, reset shem if you want.
2nd, CC (crowd control) is king in this game, so units like tasi/arden are super good.
So if you plan on using saveas as your carry, you can run Brutus Grezhul Khasos Saveas Belinda

@unreal storm how many people does your arden root, do you know?

[unreal storm]

@clear saddle I ended up beating that level but now I'm stuck here

[ashen schooner]

@unreal storm Swap Saveas and Arden, if needed try putting Saveas in Tasi's position

[serene basin]

@clear saddleI went straight to 14 39,but I'm like falling asleep so Ima go to bed thanks again

[clear saddle]

@serene basin np, goodnight

[copper moon]

Finally beat 20-26

[clear saddle]

@copper moon nice bro, couple more walls ahead though 🙂 i got ss for some, just @ if you need

[glacial heron]

What do you guys think here, I've been running full maulers for the 25% buff, numisu has been the key because of his ability to heal himself and get guys to hit his totems and he was my only elite for awhile, just got tasi E and Arden r+ Wondering if to put them in with sav,numisu and golus, how to split the levels and if it will be better, what do you guys think?

This is where I am

[ashen schooner]

@glacial heron Something like this would be better suited to your playstyle.
Numisu
Golus
Saveas
Hogan/Estrilda
Arden/Tasi

[reef hawk]

@fierce kayak thnx for the help! It worked

[glacial heron]

@ashen schooner I would go down to 10% bonus that way though, worth?

[fierce kayak]

@reef hawk welcome. Have fun

[ashen schooner]

@glacial heron Faction bonuses are important early game and even with 10% you should be quite viable. The faction bonuses matter less later in the game.

[glacial heron]

Who would I put the most points into? Btw I willprob be able to get shem or nem from lab after I finish it today

[visual quiver]

also @glacial heron read the pinned messages in #classic-questions and only level 5 heroes. and most important. don't fight with level 1 heroes lol

[ashen schooner]

@glacial heron It's wise to put the most of your resources into your damage carry. So, in your case, this would be your Saveas.
To go along with Asmia, reset the heroes you aren't using in Rickety Cart.

[glacial heron]

Would you put in shem or nem if I get them now?

The green was just foder for the bonus the truth is nimu does most of the work

[ashen schooner]

Shemira is an amazing damage carry for the majority of the game, so later she would then replace Saveas (maybe around Chapter 14-15 or so). Nemora is a healer and charms targets, so she's a support and could be a better replacement for your Numisu.

[glacial heron]

I did read the messages as well just think my situation is a bit different

[rare gale]

Can i change ogi to eironn elite+ cuz ogi sucks..

[glacial heron]

Thanks for the tips

[cold marten]

Any ideas? I keep dying no matter what combo I use

[forest hedge]

need some help please, kaz and sil so annoying

[random verge]

Lucent vault boss fight :(

[crystal osprey]

20-36

[forest hedge]

@random verge what I did is try to kill the rest except brutus, 2nd round I used Cc heroes

[random verge]

Interesting @forest hedge I'll try that

[forest hedge]

good luck with that

[minor hull]

Ascend Belinda or lucius?

[pale kettle]

20-33

need help 😢 tho i'm assuming i'm underleveled that's why i always get shit on

[sleek portal]

@pale kettle you're not, if you havent already check out the youtuber Ayuh Le and Vitaly ................. guy

[pale kettle]

i haven't. tho i watch whoever pops first when i google the current stage. they have A or M+ aside from shem tho so i thought that's a factor.

[sleek portal]

@pale kettle they helped me clear ch20 within a week using your lineup and your level. position and dura's placement is important in both 20 and 21

[pale kettle]

ayuh's comp seems doable. imma go check it out later. thanks!

[ashen schooner]

@pale kettle Also, if you keep your comp, try switching Shem and Brutus. Reset if your Shemira gets charmed.

[pale kettle]

thanks. i'll try that one as well

[sharp hornet]

Help please 19-6

[ashen schooner]

Switch Shemira and Brutus. Then put Tasi frontline with Shemira backline. @sharp hornet

[sharp hornet]

@ashen schooner still getting owned quickly maybe support just isn't leveled enough for 19 yey

[ashen schooner]

Debatable. You could also try
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca @sharp hornet

[sharp hornet]

@ashen schooner did as well arden dies before getting vines off

[ashen schooner]

He has gear? And what artifacts are on what heroes? @sharp hornet

In the other lineup I just sent you, move Tasi gear to Arden if she has better gear.

[sharp hornet]

@ashen schooner

[ashen schooner]

Personally I'd go
Call - Shemira
Blade - Brutus
Eye - Lyca
Drape - Tasi
Grace - Arden @sharp hornet

[sharp hornet]

@ashen schooner k

[wet maple]

Hi! I've also posted this on reddit. I'm at 1 month playing and this is my current situation:

• Units: https://i.imgur.com/RACZdAI.jpg
• Stage: 11-24
• King's Tower: 141
• Peaks of Time: First 4 completed, can't beat Ancient Ruins
• I have 2 chests: Isabella/Numisu/Lyca/Belinda and Tasi/Nara/Thane/Skerg
• I tried Hard Lab only once and couldn't beat it
• Usual comp: Saveas/Brutus/Lucius/Rosaline/Fawkes
• Wrizz: around 5.5m - 6m damage Saveas/Thane/Lucius/Rosaline/Shemira
• Soren: around 2m - 2.5 damage with Saveas/Thane/Lucius/Rosaline/Shemira

I think that my pull have been pretty good so far, but probably I should use different comps (like use more the Twins).
From the 2 chests I think that I will get Tasi and Lyca, correct choice?
In the shop I'm always buying Dust for gold and Elite pieces with Diamonds, and of course Shemira with the Lab. Also 60 Elite soulstone in the barracks.
I haven't bought anything in the Guild Store so far but I could buy some Legendary stuff, but I think I will wait for mythic gear.
My plan is to continue upgrading my team up to 141, and then start to use Shemira at 161 since everyone says she's OP!

I want to ask how am I doing so far and what I could improve to do better.

[ashen schooner]

I would definitely say Lyca and Tasi are great additions to your team. I run the meta comp, which is Brutus/Shem/Wilders (Lyca/Nemora/Tasi/Arden) and that has gotten me pretty far along with many others and you should consider changing Shemira to your main damage carry, it doesn't have to be now. Currently, I'd say your comp has potential to do a lot of damage but Rosaline would benefit Belinda or Shemira better ultimate-wise. @wet maple

[wet maple]

@ashen schooner thanks!

[last ibex]

Hey guys, what should be my optional line-up?

[visual quiver]

I can't even tell what level your heroes are because your ss is too small for some reason

[ashen schooner]

You need tanks, Hogan and Estrilda can take care of that for you for now. Tasi and Nemora are the best for your supports right now, and Saveas or Belinda as your damage carry. @last ibex

[signal current]

currently running Belinda-nemora-fawkes-rosaline-hendrick. any suggestions?

[last ibex]

@ashen schooner Should I continue with Hogan, Estradia, Saveas, Safiya and Belinda? Or should I switch it up with Hogan, Estradia, Saveas, Tasi and Nemora?

[ashen schooner]

@signal current Consider changing out Fawkes for another tank, such as Lucius.
@last ibex That lineup works fine (Safiya buff zone is nice). Later in the game, Wilder support heroes are more dependable.

[last ibex]

@ashen schooner Thank you!

[signal current]

yeah that's the dream, unluckily i never get lucius copies

Also the shem is close to going mythic, what do i do then? pull out rosaline? fawkes? @ashen schooner

[ashen schooner]

@signal current I'd say pull out Belinda or Fawkes as, in my opinion, Shemira has more dependable damage as well as dealing full map AoE damage.

[sly shadow]

Plez halp

[random wing]

Kind of having a hard time choosing which heroes to focus on, so far I've been mostly doing Hogan, hendrick, shemira, nemora and tasi. I tried changing hogan with brutus but he dies too fast (doesnt even ult) and I tried switching shemira/tasi for saveas but same problem he dies too fast to do a lot of damage. Any suggestions on which heroes to focus and also which ones I should try to get? Any advice would be appreciated

[marble bane]

@random wing it depends a lot. You need 3 good teams that you can switch depending on the lvl that you are. Also depending which chapper you are currently decide with which would you start.

[random wing]

Currently I am stuck at 6-35

[marble bane]

What is the team? Which faction are you fighting against?

[random wing]

I think another big problem I have is gear, it's kind of limited so I can only have so much on multiple heroes. and maulers

[marble bane]

DON'T BUY GEAR WITH DIAMONDS

[random wing]

I know, I keep checking the afk reward and hoping for epics, but it's not very common

[marble bane]

You don't need to much gear. Just enough so all the heroes that you are currently using are equipped.

[acoustic hawk]

9-40, I don't mind resetting

[random wing]

All of the main ones have gear, I guess I just need to wait more and keep leveling them

[marble bane]

@random wing https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/games/2019/05/afk-arena-tips-cheats-guide/amp/

[pale kettle]

What is the best team thet i can build from what i have?

[marble bane]

@acoustic hawk in the empty space put tree guy

@acoustic hawk or this

If still don't work switch them around depending how much each last in which spot.

[knotty chasm]

Just got tasi would she make my lineup better?

[marble bane]

@knotty chasm yes

[knotty chasm]

Who would I replace?

[proven tulip]

the dwarf 🙂

[marble bane]

The old guy

[still oar]

@knotty chasm
Try
Nemora
Hogan
Arden/tasi
Lyca
Saveas
Charm hogan. Or not

[marble bane]

@knotty chasm try this

[knotty chasm]

Alright will do

[turbid fern]

Any idea for 17-12 please ? I can't ascend any hero any further at this stage

[still oar]

Think I cleared with
Lyca
Shemira
Arden/nemora
Brutus
Nemora/Arden
@turbid fern.
Don't let ankhira cocoon shem

[strong glen]

First time trying Wrizz in hard mode as I just cleared stage 9-24. I have poison and attack relics and can barely get him to half health before he wipes my team. I have tried my normal 3 Wilders, Saveas, and Brutus lineup as well as the above 3 Lightbringer lineup as they have faction advantage and I have the faction arrow. Nothing seems to work. Am I out of luck?

[turbid fern]

@still oar Ok thank you, I'll give it a go

[supple stratus]

Need some help. 20-15

[still oar]

My Shem was higher tho

[turbid fern]

my shem dies frontline, that's the issue

[still oar]

Then try swap lyca and shemira's positions

[turbid fern]

swaping lyca and shem works better but I lack dps

[still oar]

Ah

You can try reset brutus and up shemira

[turbid fern]

My little pinky tells me that if I M+ my brutus with saevas and M my nemora with arden and use a L copy of him, I'll surely be able to pass the stage

or no need just passed it haha!

[still oar]

You have l Arden. Then it might worth a try but don't use saveas yet

It's cheaper to reset brutus and up shemira

[turbid fern]

I can't M+ shemira. not yet

[still oar]

Oh still lack of fodder.

[turbid fern]

Yeah, she would go straight to ascended as soon as I have enough fodders

[tacit kayak]

@still oar dude thanks ezizh mehira did it first try

[still oar]

👍

[tacit kayak]

21-60 was such a pain lol

[turbid fern]

Any idea for 17-20 please?

[mental trench]

Heeeeelp 😭😭

Tried switching loads round

[ashen schooner]

@turbid fern Try putting Arden in the middle backline, possibly Nemora bottom backline if she doesn't die or charm Kaz.
@mental trench I would say swap around Ulmus and Brutus.

[icy badger]

Can someone help me out stuck on 16-40

[ashen schooner]

@icy badger Put Shem bottom backline behind Brutus, swap Tasi there in frontline. Move Nemora to middle backline.
@tawny jewel Swap Shemira and Tasi.

[tawny jewel]

@ashen schooner tasi gets 1shot

[ashen schooner]

That's fine. Just play it out. Reset a few times.

[tawny jewel]

@ashen schooner no lyca?

[ashen schooner]

Well, you can test it since I assume Arden gets jumped on instantly. Try
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira
And then test out Lyca swap for Tasi here and there if that comp, after a few resets, still doesn't work. @tawny jewel

[tawny jewel]

Ok

[viral timber]

https://imgur.com/a/y16zIYi currently stuck on 12-16, any ideas? list of heroes included in the links

[sacred talon]

Guys this formation needs some adjustements

[unique magnet]

as I mentioned, go hard into savaes you gotta over level him and keep him constantly at the level cap, he can usually almost 1v5 by himself if hes maxed early game

[sacred talon]

So like saveas at lvl. 90

Oh and for replacements these are my current heroes

[ashen schooner]

I'd probably replace Saveas with Shemira if I was in your shoes, as well as probably changing Vedan to a tank like Hendrik. @sacred talon

[sharp escarp]

17-24 help?

[ashen schooner]

Move Arden to middle backline, swap Lyca for Shemira. @sharp escarp

[sacred talon]

Two tanks then?

[ashen schooner]

Later in the game Shemira can be a tank

[sacred talon]

I already have Hogan in

[ashen schooner]

Hogan is fine, just that Vedan isn't necessarily tanky and another tank would give you more sustain.

[sharp escarp]

@ashen schooner they oneshot shemira

[sacred talon]

Finally someone who says that

[ashen schooner]

Who is they @sharp escarp

[sacred talon]

I'm referring to Meiteorite

Vedan isn't a tank

[ashen schooner]

He's definitely not but later the amount of damage he does (at least, from the enemy perspective) heals him like crazy.

[sacred talon]

He just flies away when you need him in a place

[sharp escarp]

@ashen schooner in this stage Shemira dies too fast

[sacred talon]

So the final team is?
(Please insert the levels too)

[ashen schooner]

@sharp escarp She should be able to sustain the damage from Grezhul and Ferael for long enough. Make sure she has Dura's Call.

@sacred talon Hogan, Hendrik. Shemira, Rosaline, and your choice of Arden/Nemora/Tasi. They'd be around 80s-90s overall.

[sacred talon]

@ashen schooner Oh today Imma get Belinda by daily rewards so if she can be included in the team count her too

[ashen schooner]

You can use Rowan too, if you'd prefer. That'd give you a hefty 4-person faction buff. @sacred talon

[gilded ruin]

Any help? 19-24

[ashen schooner]

@gilded ruin Try replacing Belinda with Nemora, reset until Nemora charms Saveas.

[gilded ruin]

She charms saveas.. But my shemira dies

[reef plank]

Put an actual tank in your front line ?

[ashen schooner]

Move Shem and Estrilda or replace Estrilda with Brutus. @gilded ruin

[still oar]

This one probably tank saveas with brutus, banish khasos and charm ira

🙏

[vital beacon]

Any advice?

[ornate totem]

How????

[tepid current]

Kings tower 176,any advice?

[still oar]

@ornate totem
Do you have nemora?

[ornate totem]

Only Epic

[tepid current]

Try using wilder backline @ornate totem my levels are not much higher than u and I'm at 16-20

[still oar]

Give it a shot

[ornate totem]

@tepid current tried but arden dies to fast and lyca and tasi seem to not realy help at all the team what i have worked beter but not inougth!!

[still oar]

Did you rearrange your gears ?

[ornate totem]

Yes

[still oar]

Damn!

[tepid current]

That's rly strange. I'm using 148 arden at 16-20 and he's doing fine

[ornate totem]

Plus i not big fan of wilders i like more!!

[high lantern]

Need help For 20-37

[unreal storm]

I'm getting pissed off lmao 😂 I can't figure this one out.

[plush kelp]

@tepid current
Shemira
Lyca
Athalia
Brutus
Arden

[vital beacon]

Need help on 11-24 any advice?

[sacred talon]

I wonder if replacing Tasi with nemora will make my formation better

Or maybe Arden

[maiden quest]

@sacred talon your problem is that you need your carry (main damage dealer) to be overleveled relative to the rest of your team

[sacred talon]

And how do I get that

[vital beacon]

Focus on leveling your main damage dealer

[sacred talon]

It's really hard to level them up

[unreal storm]

Someone please help me

[sacred talon]

@vital beacon But do you think that swapping Tasi with nemora ( and maybe Lyca with Hogan ) would help?

[strange glen]

owo whats this

[vital beacon]

@sacred talon what other heros do you have

[sacred talon]

@vital beacon

[maiden quest]

@sacred talon it means not leveling your team up evenly; you level up your main damage dealer to their level cap first, and then evenly distribute exp among the rest of your 4

[sacred talon]

Should I reset all the others and level them al lvl. 81 and give the rest of the xp to Shemira

[vital beacon]

@sacred talonis shemira your main damage dealer? Also I would suggest switching Rowan for Arden for more crowd control. But if Rosaline isn't following shemira then it's not much use also I personally believe Hendrick to be a better tank than hogan

[maiden quest]

@unreal storm you should put Saveas in your frontline

[unreal storm]

Once again, can someone please help me?

[maiden quest]

also, at your level, I would use Lucius instead of Brutus, who isn't useful until 141+

[sacred talon]

@vital beacon Rosaline is already following Shemira

[unreal storm]

@maiden quest Lucius gets deleted instantly, whereas Brutus at least has his immunity to buy time

[maiden quest]

Lucius on the bottom gets deleted instantly?

[unreal storm]

Yep

He's only E

[maiden quest]

how's Ulmus do? (Arden/Tasi/Lyca) backline (Saveas/Ulmus) frontline

[unreal storm]

I would assume he gets insta killed as Maulers have faction advantage but I can try

[vital beacon]

@sacred talon try switching Hendrick for Hogan and Arden for Rowan and let me know how it goes

[unreal storm]

@maiden quest yup he gets deleted in like 2 seconds

The khasos just does way too much damage @maiden quest

[maiden quest]

weird, that formation honestly doesn't look that bad

[vital beacon]

Anyone capable with my lineup?

NVM I got it

[unkempt glade]

Who should i place on crystal next? My main lineup is Shemia lucius frontline, rowan, fawkes, rosaline backline

[topaz eagle]

19:38 any advice? These ogi kaz levels are literally the dumbest combo in the game

[pale kettle]

which i should take?

[rare gale]

Can i change lyca for eironn E+? Cuz lyca is useless i think

[pale kettle]

maybe tasi i should pick no idea if nara is useful as elite for chapter 11?

[solid marten]

Anything I can do to finish this? Current formation leaves khasos and Mirael alive

[pale kettle]

@rare gale you can although you have to be careful with eiron’s dragging

[rare gale]

@pale kettle i think he drags only when hes in the middle

[unkempt glade]

@pale kettle I'd go with tasi

[hushed wasp]

Got grezhul elite+ and hogan elite would it be worth it to replace golus with one of them now or should i wait?

[pale kettle]

thx bentsen

[unkempt glade]

Np!

[pale kettle]

also if i manage to get another tasi should i ascend tasi to mythic with the current ira or wait for more fodder after that?

[versed canopy]

Hi any advice for this fight ?

[pale kettle]

@versed canopy maybe try nara to drag out tasi cause tasi kinda counters shemira

[unreal storm]

It seems like I'll never make it past this

[still oar]

@versed canopy

[unreal storm]

Nvm I got there

[toxic ravine]

Need help with a comp to progress with. Bel with shemira seems odd

[hard zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603093242854244377/619271377001906187/Screenshot_20190905-154217_AFK_Arena.jpg

stuck on 11-40

[still oar]

@toxic ravine
Reset Bel and use it to 140 brutus and saveas. If there is excess 161+ shemira and make shemira your carry
You can try standard meta shemira + brutus as fronline and nemora, lyca, tasi Arden as backline

[marble bane]

I need help

[still oar]

Faw
Luc/thoran
Rosaline
Brutus
Belinda
Call on Belinda maybe and try kill saveas flank asap

[unreal storm]

Stuck again but this time it isn't even a boss level

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle where did you get one of those i-

[old ore]

The last level, i really need help

[maiden quest]

wait... your power rating is 2x the enemy's? that's a first

[old ore]

Yeah, but i really want that last reward on the event

[teal galleon]

cant finish this cuz of brutus immunity time compared to lifespan of black hole

[unique magnet]

[maiden quest]

OHHHH, that's voyage of wonders haha

[old ore]

Yes, please, i am desperate haha

[broken egret]

Any good ideas?

[unkempt glade]

Can someone reccommend what to place on my open crystal spot? My main team is Shemira, Lucious front, Rosaline, Rowan Fawkes Back.

[maiden quest]

@old ore I don't really see an obvious formation with your heroes, since you lack CC heroes, but I would probably try to focus on a single hero; something like Shemira (or Belinda), Rosaline, Raine, Twins, Hogan; if that fails but you've killed most of the enemies, you could then try a Mauler/Wilder lineup maybe

[old ore]

Yeah i gave up. I'm not gonna bother

[maiden quest]

😦

[tidal venture]

Should i reset my twins and ferael to slot in tasi +either kaz/ira to keep the 3 of a kind buff? Tasi seems great but im hesitant cuz the haste from twins has honestly been carrying me abit. And if i do it who should i put on my crystal slots? Im at like 6-13 if that matters.

[broken egret]

@tidal venture i think I would reset Ira, so take her out of crystal and probably put tasi in. And yes she is great imo. Also arden is another great unit which I would advise you to work on. Once he hits lvl 81 he roots 2 people which is a major powerspike for him

[tidal venture]

Hm.

So what kinda of line up would you be thinking i sgould run then

[teal galleon]

help

[broken egret]

Honestly while running saveas you kinda want a comp that can stall a bit so he can kill everyone. The 4 Wilders are great for that, arden, lyca, nemora and tasi. Just pick 3 of those when you have them. Fill last spot with a good tank. Since you only have 2 of the Wilders now I would advise to buy 1 nemora copy from labyrinth shop. (after that only shem). @tidal venture

[tidal venture]

Hmm okay thanks

[fierce kayak]

@tidal venture yes.. do build Arden like dion said. You can use these for now, don't worry.. you be pulling more and will change your setup soon. Too few heroes now to make a good line-up.

Tasi/nara/shemira
Hogan
Twins
Sav
Shemira/nara

[tidal venture]

Thank you

[teal galleon]

[sacred talon]

Lol this actually works

I still need to find some purple stuff to level up Shemira but it is working perfectly

I hope to find Lucius so I can replace him with Hendrick

[still oar]

Do you have Rosaline?

[vital beacon]

@sacred talon hey glad to see some of my suggestion helped you

[nova fiber]

Stuck at 9-40

[teal galleon]

@still oar only Purple

[vital beacon]

@nova fiber what enemies are you facing

[late cargo]

Hi can someone please help me? I dont have long to figure this out as it is Lucent vault and voyage of wonders is resetting soon I really appreciate any help

[still oar]

It's okay @teal galleon.
Let's try
Tasi/nemora/Arden
Estrilda
Rosaline
Lucius
Belinda
Put call on luc so he would ult faster and try burst vedan+niru side with belinda

[vital beacon]

@nova fiber try switch saveas and khasos and try Nemora instead of lyca. Her buff is nice but without her heal it's going to be rough. Also if that don't work then saveas up front and switch khasos with Belinda for more dps

@late cargo saveas up front and try Arden instead of lyca for extra cc

[teal galleon]

@still oar instant meltdown of everything except belinda

[vital beacon]

@late cargo so Hendrick saveas upfront and the Arden tasi Nemora backline

[still oar]

Oh,Luc can't tank yet. Yeah it's a stage with high attack. Someone did by use luc to def+ tasi help and let Belinda burst

[teal galleon]

@still oar

[vital beacon]

@late cargoalso try for certain relics fire/ice bringer sun/moon stones and deathly embrace helped me clear it took quite a few tries before RNG came through

[late cargo]

@vital beacon the sad thing is, I have sun/moon and fire/ice and still get deleted

[still oar]

Hol up let me think of something

[late cargo]

Here's all of these screenshots if that helps any

[marble harbor]

@late cargo try
Arden
Hendrik
Tasi
Saveas
Lyca

[late cargo]

@marble harbor sadly it didn't work, I guess I'm just too weak 😔

[marble harbor]

How close do you get?

[late cargo]

Not even one enemy dies

[marble harbor]

Are you doing auto or manual?

[late cargo]

Manual

[still oar]

Nemora
Brutus
Saveas/belinda
Lyca
Belinda/saveas
Try charm brutus with nemora, call maybe on nemora or Belinda and if call on nemora eye on Belinda. If Belinda uses call put eye on brutus
@teal galleon
I am kinda out of idea with your current heroes and don't want you to reset or replace crystal

[marble harbor]

Try
Arden
Hendrik
Nemora
Saveas
Tasi

[teal galleon]

still doesnt work, maybe i will w8 some days for resources

[late cargo]

@marble harbor I did it with that lineup! Thank you so much!

[marble harbor]

@late cargo yay congrats! You’re welcome

[unreal storm]

@marble harbor care to help me out? Haha

[marble harbor]

@unreal storm Try
Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

[forest hedge]

please help me 😭😭

[marble harbor]

@forest hedge hmm try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden

[unreal storm]

@marble harbor sadly that didn't work, I hit retry with that formation 10 times just to make sure

[marble harbor]

@unreal storm try swapping Brutus and Saveas and then try swapping Arden and Tasi

[wicked island]

@forest hedge Try estrilda infront of Ogi to knock him back and interrupt him.

[forest hedge]

that ogi can 1 hit estrilda L+

[fierce kayak]

@forest hedge shem never face ogi. You can try

Tasi (bait)
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca/brutus
Brutus/lyca

Might need to try a few times for RNG to work. Tasi can be behind Brutus bottom too. You try and see which one works better. But Shem away from ogi

[unreal storm]

@marble harbor none of that worked either, thanks for the suggestions though

[marble harbor]

@unreal storm how close are you getting?

[forest hedge]

my shemira die so fast

[still oar]

@forest hedge which one is weaker Arden or tasi?

[unreal storm]

@marble harbor

[forest hedge]

Tasi is weaker

[marble harbor]

@forest hedge I agree Shem on Ogi is almost always bad, but Kaz destroys Shem. You might get lucky with
Nemora
Shem
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
Tasi should be getting targeted

[forest hedge]

Sil always go after nemora or arden first

[still oar]

If Arden got interrupted swap position with nemora. Arden should root kaz

Swap gears. Make tasi the target

[marble harbor]

@unreal storm
Hmm try putting Nemora in Lyca’s spot and Lyca where Brutus is. Let me know if you get closer or if it’s worse

[rigid dragon]

Help. 17-24!

[still oar]

@LeThaCo#8804

[fierce kayak]

@rigid dragon Nemora middle back is one of the best way to beat Farael. Charm. I would use meta team too

[forest hedge]

thanks guys, I will try all the suggestions now

[rigid dragon]

Meta team?

@fierce kayak

[fierce kayak]

@rigid dragon something like born in 70s team above.

Shemira and another front (brutus/lucius/etc..)

Tasi Arden nemora lyca back (pick 3 out of them depending on stage)

If can't work, then switch around like Born's team up there.

Meta team easier to build becos we just focus on Shem. The rest can be low Ascneded. And Wilders CC and Shem ulti.. all we need is right RNG and we can beat team higher level than us.

[unreal storm]

@marble harbor I don't have nemora

[marble harbor]

@unreal storm ahh okay. You’re close based on your screenshot. Might need some RNG

[pallid lake]

Anyone have a ss for 20-32?

[still oar]

A sec

@pallid lake

[true hare]

0-

[celest pilot]

what is the best combination at the frontline for a new player (lvl. 61), hogan, antandra, or brutus (hogan has the faction bonus with raine and belinda)?

[clear saddle]

@celest pilot can u show ur hero list?

[celest pilot]

belinda ill eventually get from the new player rewards

[clear saddle]

@celest pilot firstly, find urself a carry, saveas is typically the best one for early-mid game, you'll want to reset your shem and put all your levels into him. then you can run brutus hogan frontline and saveas arden raine backline maybe

[celest pilot]

alright thanks!

[mossy scroll]

Guys tell me what’s my best lineup pls

[clear saddle]

@mossy scroll focus on 1 hero as your carry, and use all your levels you have on that hero. in this case, could be belinda or saveas. after that, you can run seirus lucius nemora belinda and saveas maybe. If you can get an arden up and running too, that'll be beneficial later

[charred crystal]

Hello

[mossy scroll]

@clear saddle Thank you my good sir

[clear saddle]

no problem

[mossy scroll]

what about shemira?

[clear saddle]

@mossy scroll shemira gets viable when saveas starts getting level capped. When shemira reaches M/M+ and you can get her to level 161+, you can swap her in for saveas

[mossy scroll]

And Also I tho grezhul was op?

[clear saddle]

Grezhul gets good at around level 200 maybe, I don't have him at that high of an ascension either so im not too sure but he does get good later

[mossy scroll]

Ok So right now you recommend me to get belinda to around what level? And so you are saying my current lineup should be Belinda, saveas,lucius, nemora and seirus

[clear saddle]

@mossy scroll depends, you can use belinda as a buffer for saveas, and focus all your levels on saveas, or you could max your belinda since her ascension is higher for now. Use all your levels on who you plan on using as your carry, either is fine

[mossy scroll]

Oh ok Thank you. I will come back when my lineup gets better

[clear saddle]

Sure, no problem. Also, make sure you dont use any ascended tier heroes as fodder. Also summon on wilders for faction scrolls if you feel like planning for the future

[mossy scroll]

What is fodder?

[clear saddle]

Heroes used as food for ascending other heroes to higher ascensions

[mossy scroll]

Oh and how do you recommend me using my crystals?

[indigo jolt]

@pale kettle Try that. Can use brutus instead of Thoran maybe.

[midnight wasp]

what lineup should i start working for. my top 5 heroes are all random asf and dont synergize at all loll.

[mossy scroll]

Is lucius suffisant as the only tank in a lineup (theres a healer in it)

[clear saddle]

@mossy scroll can be for now

[indigo jolt]

Pick either eironn or Shem as your carry, reset hendrik to 160and level them to 200.
For shem lineup, maybe
Brutus Shem, with 3 of (Eironn) Lyca Tasi Nemora (arden as well if you make again)
Eironn lineup i may try the above wilders with Brutus and or Hendrik.

[mossy scroll]

@clear saddle And I have a Duras Grace artifact you think I should put it on my carry (Belinda)

[clear saddle]

You can, or if you have eye, you can use that on belinda

[coarse oak]

Hey all - thoughts?

As, what do you think I should be running - I just got brutus today. I've mostly been sticking with those first 4 and rotating in 2-3 others, depending on what I need

[indigo jolt]

Lol..

[mossy scroll]

Is it possible to disable slowmode or no

[midnight wasp]

@indigo jolt im startin that set up now thanks for the tipp

[indigo jolt]

Think its Nem - Nem - Ogi, but its mainly to buy time for Shem.
Not 100% sure.

[bronze lance]

Hello, what should i take in this box ?

[indigo jolt]

@coarse oak You should prioritize Saveas as your next L hero (dont use ascended tier fodder), raise him to cap.
Team setup Saveas Brutus Khasos Arden , (5th you can probably switch around as no clear definite)

@bronze lance What stage are you in the game?

[coarse oak]

really? wow - hogan and belinda are beasts atm - didnt think theyd be outed haha

[bronze lance]

12.24, lvl 68

[indigo jolt]

Either the Diamonds or the Yellow amplifying emblems.

[coarse oak]

worth resetting anyone/crystals?

[indigo jolt]

@coarse oak Nop, you can keep running Hogan and Belinda if you want, they are a viable alternative, butcurrently you dont have any more Belinda copies so will be hard to keep ascending her unless you start going Lb faction pulls.

[mossy scroll]

@indigo jolt Do you think its worth spending crystals for legendary items in the shop Or i hsould keep them for the rolls(10)

[bronze lance]

Thanks ;)

[indigo jolt]

@mossy scroll Diamonds best spent on 10 pulls , and 5 elite stones when they appear in shtore.

[mossy scroll]

Thanks

[coarse oak]

Ok cool - I haven;t used anyone as fodder yet but is it worth doing so to a point for these maulers?

[indigo jolt]

@coarse oak As long as you aren't using ascended tier heroes, you'll have to start foddering soon to break your current cap of 120. (See Portraits)
Also, check out the pin in #classic-questions for a more detailed guide on it.

[mossy scroll]

@indigo jolt Do you think its worth spending real money in this game (Based on your experience)

[indigo jolt]

I am totally f2p, but its all down to what you want to do. I can't comment on your spending power/budget.

[coarse oak]

awesome thanks 😄

[mossy scroll]

Sure but @indigo jolt If I do spend money what do you think is the best deal to spend it on (my budget is 0-50 )

[indigo jolt]

Advancement and Regal Rewards are the best value i believe.

[mossy scroll]

Thank you

[indigo jolt]

Yw

[modest sail]

I so desperately want to beat this. Mauler tower level 80. It’s the last one I need to hit 80 on. Any ideas? I can’t seem to do much here...

[indigo jolt]

@modest sail I've been told Mercing a Khasos with Sig is the easy way past it.

[sacred talon]

Guys I just got Belinda and Satrana is this any way to include them in my formation to make it better

[sleek portal]

@modest sail hire a good khasos with signature item, done

[modest sail]

@indigo jolt and @sleek portal I’ll give it a try, thanks guys!

[sacred talon]

Guys any suggestions

[pale kettle]

stuck

[sleek portal]

@sacred talon belinda>shemira early game

[indigo jolt]

@sacred talon Belinda can be a direct replacement for Shemira as carry, but would wait for now if you want to do that as yur chapter is mostly Lb enemies i think.

[sleek portal]

i'd try using nemora instead of tasi here, then call on shemira, nemora charm belinda to buff shemira, then arden locks bottom 3 etc.

nemora behind shemira arden in tas's posinotn

[indigo jolt]

@pale kettle

[mossy scroll]

Any tips on how to beat this

[indigo jolt]

Does tasi survive when silv doesnt crit? @pale kettle

Rerun, if she doesnt crit, will jump.

Retry, maybe you had the 1 unlucky time when she doesnt.

[wide breach]

When I get 2 more R+ Maulers to finally get Saveas up to L+. Is it worth swapping back to him until 160? Using a 140 Shemira rn with Legendary gear. Saveas would mostly have E+ gear

[indigo jolt]

@wide breach Yes. Saveas will be better generally until Shem is 161.

@vague radish Who is coffined?

[wide breach]

Okie, fingers crossed for some more Golus and Ankhira

[vague radish]

Any lineup change or Just levels?

@indigo jolt eironn

[indigo jolt]

Bel
Thane
Ros
Estrilda
Fawkes
Maybe.

Maybe also try
Ros
Bel
Rowan
Estrilda
Fawkes

[plucky flint]

Any suggestions? Silv targets nemora. If i switch their gear, silv one shots tasi. I can get shem and tasi to both ult sometimes, but they’re the only two left and immediately get wiped as soon as everyone else wakes up

[indigo jolt]

Drop Brutus for another bait mage maybe?

[plucky flint]

That didn’t work but I think I figured it out. Just need to switch lyca and tasi’s positions

[indigo jolt]

K Gl 🙂

[vague radish]

@indigo jolt thanks a lot, second lineup worked on first try ^^

[vestal island]

Everything else crumbles

[gilded walrus]

Any help? 21-4. Can’t find a video that doesn’t have either 220 Brutus or 240 Shem

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle u need ur nemora to charm the arden before he roots, i used 4* M boots and it worked, you could probably use athalia too i think

[cloud wadi]

Any tips? I’ve been stuck here for almost a week 😅

[clear saddle]

uhh @pale kettle arden probably? need tasi for sleep

[gilded walrus]

@cloud wadi Nemora instead of Fawkes but make sure her defense is higher than Tasi’s

[novel tusk]

maybe
tasi shemira
fawkes
lyca brutus

or use arden if he doesnt get one shot

[cloud wadi]

Awesome thanks @gilded walrus had to switch shemira back up front but it worked

[gilded walrus]

@cloud wadi no problem 🙂

[novel fulcrum]

tips please im able to down vedan but saveas takes out the rest of my team

[gilded walrus]

@novel fulcrum who does Silvina attack first?

[novel fulcrum]

nemora

[clear saddle]

@cloud wadi are you still stuck?

[cloud wadi]

@clear saddle nope all good. Saxie helped me out

[clear saddle]

Cool

[novel fulcrum]

@gilded walrus passed it by moving nemora up so silvina got to my saveas later

[gilded walrus]

@novel fulcrum nice, but just for future reference, Silvina goes after the mage with the weakest defense rating. Tasi dodges Silvina very well, so it’s usually best to make her have the lowest defense

[novel fulcrum]

ill keep that in mind but now im stuck on this :V

[gilded walrus]

@novel fulcrum swap Nem and Tasi. Nemora probably needs to charm Vedan or Isabella. Also try working in a faction bonus. They help a lot

[novel fulcrum]

who'd i swap out

i think nemora dies too quickly to charm anyone

[gilded walrus]

@novel fulcrum you could try using the twins instead of Tasi or Lyca instead of Brutus.

[novel fulcrum]

twins essentially insta die, same with lyca the problem is that the top frontline guy takes too long to kill
by the time i take out vedan+ bottom most mage, everyone else on my team dies except saveas

[gilded walrus]

@novel fulcrum I don’t have them, so I’m not really sure how to use them lol. Anyway you should reset that Eironn. Only level up 5 heroes. The rest go on the resonating crystal. Also I see your Shemira is 130 but your other heroes are 120. Your lowest 4 heroes should usually be the same level

That way you can probably level the bottom four up a little bit more

[novel fulcrum]

i got enough to get the other bottom 3 to 121, still dont think its not enough 😦

[granite chasm]

any suggestions 22-36

[mild wing]

@granite chasm hmmm im not used to making lineups with khasos tbh lol

Have you tried lyca on estrilda and brutus khasos on morvus angelo to burst that side quick

[granite chasm]

no , because i need silvina jump to my lvl 1 tasi for khasos not turn his face and throw axes on other side 😂

[true hare]

im on 9-20

[hushed wasp]

Just got elijah and lilah. Where would they fit on my team? Should i shelve them for now?

[true hare]

i was thinking of using belinda over totem guy, is she better?

[granite chasm]

@mild wing thank you actully that work lol

[mild wing]

@granite chasm It worked?

[granite chasm]

ye

[visual quiver]

that moment when the one who gave the suggestion is as surprised

[mild wing]

cool 👌

[visual quiver]

@pale kettle what happens if you switch shem with brutus and lyca with shem? arden can't root shem and brutus should survive longer against kaz

[sacred talon]

Guys I know I have to level up Shemira but in these stages the other members die almost immediately and she usually becomes the last one standing. Now I'm stuck in 7-36 because everyone dies in 3 seconds and she has to fight like 5 enemies of her level making the stage super hard to pass

Like this

I think I need to start leveling up the others too

[gilded walrus]

@sacred talon what are your hero levels? Arden sucks until 141

[sacred talon]

Shemira 109 and the others 81 besides rowan that is 80

Peapole recommended me to focus on the damage dealer..

[gilded walrus]

It’s usually better to use Saveas as carry at first. Most people don’t carry with Shem until 141

[sacred talon]

Anyway I almost got my Nemora to legendary so I think I can replace her with Arden

I just need to get enough Labirinth tokens

[gilded walrus]

I wouldn’t spend your tokens on Nemora. You’ll most likely regret it later when you need 4 Shemira’s lol, but that’s your call

[sacred talon]

Uh

I already bough Shemira from Labirinth to make her an elite plus

[visual quiver]

you need her at least L+ at 161. that's when she replaces sav as a carry

[sacred talon]

I tried using Saveas but it isn't much a thing Shemira can spread damage and hit a lot of targets at the same time

[gilded walrus]

Just wait for the store to reset and get another copy of her. I promise you’ll be happy about that decision later lol

[sacred talon]

Ok oh and I got a Satrana should I replace her with Arden since you say it's not good? It would add some factional boosts

[visual quiver]

sav needs to be 20-40 levels above the rest of your team. no carry is a carry if they are all on the same level

[gilded walrus]

Btw you can’t make someone 161 if they’re only L+ lol

[visual quiver]

man. I'll rewrite that. "you need her at least L+. At 161, that's when she replaces sav as a carry"

[sacred talon]

She seems pretty fine to me

[gilded walrus]

Oh lol damn punctuation 😛

[visual quiver]

because you don't need shemira copies for L+ to M

[hushed wasp]

where does elijah and lilah fit on a team? healer?

[gilded walrus]

Yeah but in the long run you’ll need 4 to make her ascended

[sacred talon]

Guys

[gilded walrus]

@hushed wasp I don’t have much experience with them, but as far as I know, they’re like Lyca as a mage but better. Haste is their niche

[sacred talon]

Should I replace Arden with Satrana to fit with Sav

[visual quiver]

no clue who ardeas is

[gilded walrus]

@sacred talon I don’t think Satrana is much good until later. She dies real easily in early game

[hushed wasp]

i got them and estrilda and i don't know if i should slot them into my party now or wait till later

[visual quiver]

that depends on your lineup

[sacred talon]

@gilded walrus what about Nemora then lol

[hushed wasp]

i posted it before and didn't get a response, i don't want to spam so if you go to my last post you can see the screenshot of my lineup

[gilded walrus]

@sacred talon she is probably the best option for now, but it’s always fun to test different formations and see what you like

[sacred talon]

Ok ty

[hasty dawn]

stuck at 16-12 any ideas? :)

[visual quiver]

@hushed wasp I can only see the first rows of your heroes.

[hushed wasp]

oh, my bad

[gilded walrus]

@hushed wasp I’d probably do Saveas
Estrilda/Hogan
Twins
Grezhul
Shem
Use Saveas as carry

[visual quiver]

estrilda at that level is dog shit, literally. go with hogan

[gilded walrus]

Agreed. I fkn hate Estrilda. So much. She’s trash

[gilded walrus]

Dang you’ve got Ferael already 🤔 he’s super good later

Very impressive that you already have him and the twins & Elite+ Grezhul this early

[visual quiver]

you have really bad draws for early game actually

[hushed wasp]

you think? i saw these as honestly pretty good draws generally

[visual quiver]

they are good, but some heroes are only good very late into the game. like ascended or at least mythic

[gilded walrus]

Yeah 😂 you have really good heroes, but they aren’t good until later. Like at least 121ish

[hushed wasp]

long term investment?

[visual quiver]

arden is good at 81 when he can root 2 enemies. I wouldn't use him before that

[gilded walrus]

Shem gets OP at 161. Ferael gets OP at 181.

Gorvo isn’t bad in early game though. Maybe you could use him. But he falls off hard later

[visual quiver]

I'd honestly prefer hogan without 3 wilders faction bonus and sav frontline

[hushed wasp]

currently using saveas,hogan,shem,mirael,golus

save and shem are carrying me most of the time but hogan and mirael put in work at times. golus tends to lag behind though

[gilded walrus]

Golus is trash until like 61 or 81 when he takes less damage at low health

[visual quiver]

golus is only rare while hogan is elite, so 2 rarities above him. I'd swap someone out for the twins so you get a faction bonus

[hushed wasp]

im getting everyone to level 61 now as my next progression goal

i guess either mirael or golus can go? idk

i could maybe put shem up front and replace golus with the twins?

[visual quiver]

hard to tell, they both suck

[gilded walrus]

Don’t try to tank with Shem this early. Especially when she’s not carry. I’m still sticking with the formation I suggested earlier

[hushed wasp]

so replace golus with grezhul and mirael with twins?

[visual quiver]

on one hand you already have 2 "carries" with sav and shem in your team, so mirael is unnecessary. on the other hand you can put sav frontline and hence only need one tank

[gilded walrus]

Mirael is okay, but the fact that you get a free Elite+ Belinda makes her useless.
And yes. But Asmia’s suggestion to put Saveas in the front is good too

[thorny tendon]

Could use some help with this

[hushed wasp]

Something like this then?

[gilded walrus]

Lucius gets wrecked by Estrilda. I would try this
Shem
Brutus
Rosaline
Lucius
Belinda
@thorny tendon

@hushed wasp if you’re using Saveas in the front, you should get rid of either Grezhul or Hogan. Grezhul doesn’t need to be in backline

[hushed wasp]

so put saveas in the back or grab another hero?

[visual quiver]

put mirael where grez is. her ult will hit everyone

[thorny tendon]

Didn't help a bit @gilded walrus

[gilded walrus]

@thorny tendon it’s hard to progress without a solid carry. You’ll probably need to make Shem or Brutus L+

[visual quiver]

or .. level your carry above the rest

[gilded walrus]

He can’t because they’re pretty much capped

[thorny tendon]

I have one copy of both, so I need one more for L+

[gilded walrus]

You could technically use belinda as carry I guess

[thorny tendon]

Also whether its lucius or brutus, they die equally fast, and it doesn't matter who's in front, cuz estrilda stuns backline too

[visual quiver]

do they both have equipment? you lose your faction bonus if you put in brutus

[hushed wasp]

oof, don't have enough gear to split between mirael shem and the twins

[thorny tendon]

Yes, both have gear

I think I need something like a lyca for the haste and some CC (arden?)

[median onyx]

Hey guys need some help with my lineup. Stuck on 18-3 and I think I will have to make a fifth Mythic to pass this stage. The options are Ulmus, Vurk and Estrilda. Who should I ascend? Or should I wait two weeks to get my Shemira to ascended?

[gilded walrus]

He still had 3 LB on the field. That’s a faction bonus.
Also I was just about to ask what your Arden is lol

[visual quiver]

yes, but he still loses a faction bonus. there is a difference between 3 of the same faction and 3+2

[thorny tendon]

I have a R+ one right now that I can get to epic. I also have an epic tasi and a leg nem

[hushed wasp]

i get a faction bonus with them but don't have the gear atm to spare for all 3 heros. should i switch mirael out for someone else like a tank or can the twins survive without any real gear for a bit?

[visual quiver]

just try the fight and see what happens without gear

[gilded walrus]

Yeah and arguably the best formation on the game uses only a 3 person bonus. Brutus, Shem, 3 Wilders 😛

[visual quiver]

he neither has a good shem nor 3 good wilders

[gilded walrus]

That wasnt my point ☺️

[thorny tendon]

Ayy I just upgraded my farael to L+

[visual quiver]

that point is invalid because the circumstances are different

I could also argue "just put in a 5 star ascended shemira and solo the fight"

[gilded walrus]

That literally had nothing to do with any of this

@thorny tendon congrats on Ferael, he’s really good later. I still need one more for L+ though 😬😬

[visual quiver]

it does. he said that luc and brutus survive for the same period of time. and I said that he loses a faction bonus with brutus which is why brutus dies even faster and goes into invisibility faster. especially because his brutus isn't 141

[thorny tendon]

Yeah I just got him after I took the screenshot

[hushed wasp]

twins got obliterated but i guess ill just afk farm some gear for them

[visual quiver]

ofc they die instant. your enemy has a silv and your twins have the lowest level

[gilded walrus]

😑 so the catty comment about a 5-Star Shemira totally made sense, right? Excuse me if I’m confused

[silent wraith]

no need to argue, we all just trying to give help

[visual quiver]

yes, it made sense. you argued that the meta team also only uses a 3 faction bonus. yes, it does. and the meta team also uses a shemira that's above 160 and a brutus above 140. what does it tell you? completely irrelevant statement. like my shemira 5 star comment to make it clear to you

[sleek portal]

@hushed wasp just dont use twins............. post your hero pool and enemy lineup again i'll try to help.

[gilded walrus]

I was just trying to show that you don’t always have to have the best faction bonus. Sometimes it depends more on the heroes. But you’re not wrong either. Sometimes the faction bonus is more important.

[fierce kayak]

@median onyx #classic-questions is a better place for your answer 🙂

[median onyx]

@fierce kayak thanks

[sleek portal]

generally speaking i dont recommend overleveling saveas unless everyone's lvl 81 at least. shemira early game imo is useless. you're better off using tanks like hogan+grezhul(swap hogan out asap) and then backline could use something like saveas + mirael + ira for now. the reason would be all of these heroes are available in union library. get their union stats maxed out. you'll soon want to swap out hogan/mirael/irsa for better heroes, and overlevel saveas by 20 levels or 40 if you want to. that's just me tho. peace.

early game is about staying as close to enemy level as possible, and get your union library maxed out asap, and utlize those heroes. equips dont matter. ascension dont matter. all about level up till chapter 9.

[hushed wasp]

hero list if you see someone to replace hogan with

[rich tapir]

Who gets their signature boosted up first?

[sleek portal]

you're too early in the game, probably day 1 into this game im assuming. you have to keep summoning for a week to start adopting a longer term lineup. @hushed wasp

[ashen schooner]

Hogan's probably your best bet as the next would probably be Gorvo or Estrilda (who is horrid early). If you want a second tank, Gorvo would be good. @hushed wasp
I personally went for Shemira first, but out of those I'd say probably Brutus or Nemora. @rich tapir

[rich tapir]

What's the argument for Brutus or Nemora? I was gonna go Shem too, haha
I'm a clown fish, so basically f2p

[sleek portal]

@rich tapir are you f2p or p2w? answers could defer.

[visual quiver]

a clown fish?

[rich tapir]

Someone that barely spends, like maybe $50-100 at most

[sleek portal]

@rich tapir depending on how much you'll spend in the future, i'd say unlock everyone's signature item for a start, then transition to shemira +10, then decide again.

[rich tapir]

Everyone's is unlocked already, so I'll go for Shem +10 as a start

[sleek portal]

@rich tapir im a full f2p, i went +20 on shemira, whale's consensus is that shemira is better off at +10, the gold emblem is better spent elsewhere

[rich tapir]

alright, just gotta wait for more of the purple emblems, thanks @sleek portal

[fickle loom]

i've just been ascending whatever drops and now that i'm reading a bit more i fear i've played the game wrong lol

[ashen schooner]

@fickle loom You can always ask for advice/guidance on your lineup here. If you'd like, you can provide your heroes in a screenshot and we can go from there.

[fickle loom]

well, i'm not too far in (1.5 week?) so i probably haven't ruined everything yet, but let me figure that out

I feel like I’m doing something wrong since I can’t seem to beat things that are almost same level (101 tower folk, 107 campaign), but it’s not like I’m too far in. Also went on an ascend frenzy today cause wow I can ascend now!!! And might have ruined things cause I used up too much as fodder lol.
(also everything I put in front instant dies, is that normal :/)

[oak lance]

Any help?

[pale kettle]

Im stuck if u can and wanna help me dm me

[ashen schooner]

@oak lance Try
Arden
Lucius
Nemora
Lyca
Belinda
Reset until Nemora charms Isabella or Brutus to do substantial damage to their own team

@pale kettle Try moving Silvina to the top backline.
Maybe like
Silvina
Hogan
Belinda
Ogi
Saveas

[pale kettle]

So i reset golus?

[sleek portal]

@fickle loom from now on, focus on ascending 1 Legendary Tier Hero(hogan/arden/mirael/saveas) from each faction and level them to 160, put all your main heroes in resonating crystal. stop ascending anyone UNLESS you're certain that you can bring them straight to L+(L is literally useless power spike).

[hasty dawn]

stuck at 16-12 any ideas? :)

[sleek portal]

@hasty dawn does your tasi die instantly from non-crit from silvinia? i'd try putting nemora in the middle and put lyca top back, lyca can help shemira to take down grezhul ASAP, nemora should charm vurk so he poisons one of the frontline to get them super low asap.

@hasty dawn if your tasi dies anyway, then put dura call on shemira so she ults asap.

[fickle loom]

ok wow I have 1 out of those 4 I see, this is a pinch x d and alright I'll stop the random ascending, and maybe ask next time before I do haha. what do you mean by putting main team in crystal? you mean reset the ones I'm not using to get the actual team set up?

[hasty dawn]

@sleek portal I have call on shem anyway. tasi doesn't die from silvina, she dies from isabella zap

[sleek portal]

@fickle loom your belinda/tasi will get stuck at level140 cap, raine will get stuck at level120 cap, IF in any case you're using them it's best to put them in resonating crystal and farm up a legendary tier hero to L+ and level them so your level cap across 5 hero stays at 160. and when you ultimately reach 160 across all heroes, the legendary tier heroes at L+ could be use as fodder for your main lineup.

[fickle loom]

oh I see, I'll try to start working on that, although even 120 feels like at least another week anyway. thanks!!

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle that chest?,you get it after you finish the lucent event

[pale kettle]

Not Even a boss stage but can't beat it....

[grim karma]

Stuck on 10-21 any ideas?

[ashen schooner]

@pale kettle Most likely that the Vedan/Ira are your problem, try switching to Tasi Brutus front with Shemira behind Brutus.
@grim karma Swap Nemora and Tasi placement.

[pale kettle]

Yep those two squeeze out the crap of me

[grim karma]

Tried that but they both still get smoked right off the bat

[ashen schooner]

@grim karma Does Nemora have time to get charm off?

[grim karma]

No

[ashen schooner]

Mmm, try switching Lyca and Grezhul and see if he can take a hit or two before he dies so Nemora can charm Saveas. @grim karma

[grim karma]

She charms golus every time when she can get the charm off

That golus/saveas side is ruining me

[dusty arrow]

stuck on 14-8

[grim karma]

Okay I lied she did charm him but I still got completely smoked @ashen schooner

[ashen schooner]

@grim karma Just keep resetting until she charms Saveas.
@dusty arrow Put Shemira where Estrilda is. Remove Estrilda for now, try adding Tasi to the bottom left backline.

@grim karma Mythic Saveas can be a pain but the charm should be good enough at some point. Please send me a screenshot of what Artifacts your heroes have.

[grim karma]

I only have the first 3 artifacts and have been trying to switch them around no luck

So Dura call, eye, and grace

[ashen schooner]

Put Call on Shemira, Eye on Lyca, Grace on Nemora. @grim karma

[grim karma]

I’m starting to think my only hope is leveling up lol

[gilded idol]

Fr

[ashen schooner]

Either that or more ascensions, yep. Sometimes though, RNG can do wonders for you. I've reset levels for an hour and passed on a whim. I'd say keep trying that lineup while you wait. @grim karma

[untold rivet]

Any tips?

[grim karma]

Will do. Thanks for the help, appreciate it @ashen schooner

[ashen schooner]

@untold rivet Move Belinda to Nemora's spot. May be a bit iffy with this stage as they have a Saveas and your lineup has no viable tanks. You may also try putting Estrilda instead of Tasi for reduction of damage.

[lament wigeon]

11-35, any tips

[untold rivet]

4 battles no luck. Will try a few more

[zinc summit]

9-38 suggestions

[untold rivet]

Yeah, it's not happening. Guess iwill be stuck on 10-28 for a few more days, lol

[ashen schooner]

@lament wigeon Do you have any support heroes? I'd personally just try different combinations of moving your backline heroes.
@zinc summit Bit rough since you have no tanks but try moving Lyca and Shemira as putting a Shemira in front of Ogi is a recipe for disaster.

[lament wigeon]

Only supports worth mentioning are Rosaline (E),Arden (E+), and Numisu (E)

[untold rivet]

Correction, this run, something happened, not sure what though! Woohoo, thanks @ashen schooner

[ashen schooner]

@lament wigeon Try replacing Mirael with Rosaline.

[zinc summit]

@ashen schooner yeah I have really bad luck w pulling any tanks
I actually tried that I decided to go w thoran , greyzul front , shemira , Lyca, and saveas got it on the 2th try

[devout berry]

17-12

[untold rivet]

Ok. Any suggestions for this fight?

[ashen schooner]

@devout berry Try
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Reset for charms.

@untold rivet Swap Arden and Belinda and keep resetting a few. That Saveas Silvina comp might be a bit much.

[lament wigeon]

No luck

[untold rivet]

I will give it a few tries, thanks

[ashen schooner]

Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline @lament wigeon

[lament wigeon]

Nerp, Rosaline too weak atm

[untold rivet]

@ashen schooner Putting Blinda in the middle, actually was a success. I am confused

[ashen schooner]

@lament wigeon Rosaline is fine enough if she has some gear to live through stuff, no matter her ascension. I'd say keep trying a little bit.
@untold rivet Could just be the better range for ultimate.

[untold rivet]

I guess, never thought of that

[jolly wolf]

@lament wigeon i might consider putting Rosaline at top and Belinda at bottom, less damage for your Lucius to heal that way and you really need to get your Belinda's ults on the bottom half of the map

[fading cipher]

Any help for 21-9? Not sure if I am underlevelled r just need a different lineup

[untold rivet]

I think I am tired, I read that as 2-19, lol

[ashen schooner]

@fading cipher Try
Nemora
Tasi
Shemira
Brutus
Lyca

[lament wigeon]

No cigar no matter which way I swap em

[untold rivet]

I think I might be stuck on this one, unless I need to bring Saveas back.

Never mind, I removes Lyca and put in Saveus and won.

[dim token]

Chapter 17-28. could i have some help please?

[sand kindle]

@fading cipher 220 shem + 200 team could close ch 21

[ashen schooner]

May be better to replace your Eironn with Nemora @dim token

[jovial jolt]

Help for best team to right Wrizz with?

[untold rivet]

Please give me a suggestion? I have moved changed and even growled a bit. Nothing I can think of works.

[wicked island]

@untold rivet Try Arden instead of Safiya. Have estrilda infront of ogi too.

[wet notch]

What do you think, mythic + lucius or one of the others to mythic

[wicked island]

This is lineup help.

Please go to #classic-questions

[untold rivet]

Ok, after messing with my back line order a bit it worked. Why would the front line change work when Estrilda and Saveus were getting a faction bonus?

[wet notch]

Oh thanks

[untold rivet]

Current stage. I am not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel on this one.

[clear saddle]

@untold rivet is that your current setup? if so, i would recommend you swap out your morvus for gorvo and belinda for saveas. your team has no damage right now

[untold rivet]

Saveas was dying in 2 seconds regardless where he was. So I thought this was not a fight for him

[grizzled galleon]

Help pls

[clear saddle]

@untold rivet ok, maybe try this. Saveas and Estrilda frontline, lyca arden and tasi backline. If your saveas cant tank the damage from the morvus, then swap lyca in front maybe

[untold rivet]

I tried that already.

[clear saddle]

@untold rivet your saveas should be able to tank the morvus and bloodsnarl until your tasi can ult.

[devout idol]

Any tips? I've got a big wall right here, been stuck for 2 weeks, sadly my strongest team is only LB ;(

[untold rivet]

been about 15 fights @clear saddle No luck.

[clear saddle]

@untold rivet what happens?

@devout idol are you close to getting an M shem?

[untold rivet]

approx 4 enemies live, sometimes getting to 3 sometimes not dropping from 5

[clear saddle]

@untold rivet do you have another reliable tank other than estrilda?

@devout idol well thats cool and all, but she's the most reliable carry until you reach 240 crystal, so just keep that in mind. she'll make it a lot easier but if you want to challenge yourself then thats fine too

[devout idol]

@clear saddle I can get her to ascended but I don't use her

In only using estrilda for the energy buff and the reduced damage in the beginning

[clear saddle]

@devout idol if you use A shem + brutus and wilder trio, you can blast straight to ch19

[untold rivet]

All of my heroes have been posted along with the chapter fight page

[clear saddle]

@untold rivet what im asking is, does anyone else tank for you as well as/on a similar level to your estrilda

[devout idol]

@clear saddle should I sacrifice Silvina for Shemira? I was using her at the guild boss tho

[untold rivet]

Sometimes Morvus, but he is useless here

[clear saddle]

@devout idol for soren? if you have a baden, he'll be a lot better than silvina. I fed my silvina the moment i got my shem L+ and have had no regrets at all

[devout idol]

Ok

Sadly I don't have enough silver emblems to get her Sig ;(

[clear saddle]

@devout idol its ok, shems sig is not that great either, only good cus it gives shem stats

@devout idol if you can get shem to A or M+ reset ur belinda and just use all your levels onto her

[devout idol]

Ok

[untold rivet]

Now that was odd, and it worked, I replaced Belinda with Athalia

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle i used brutus pos 1, lyca pos 2, shem pos 3, tasi pos 4 and arden pos 5
@devout idol you can, brutus is a lot more reliable of a tank than lucius imo

[devout idol]

Should I reset Lucius to evolve Brutus too?

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle try it and see, my shem was also only 200

[devout idol]

@clear saddle omg even if I had lower power than before I almost finished it

I'm getting her to ascended right now, and I almost can ascend Brutus to M+

[cinder crag]

Like how to even beat this ? Ulmus ult is just way too broken

[untold rivet]

Suggestions please?

[warm rain]

Really struggling with this one, I’ve tried loads of different comps but they just melt me every time

[ashen schooner]

Rosaline
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora @warm rain

[ember stone]

What do i do here? Or is my brutus too weak?

[vestal island]

Any clue what i can do? Best i can do is kill everyone but left with niru and sav. Sav and vedan 3 shots lucius so I have go put brutus there

[ashen schooner]

@ember stone Your best bet here is to rent out an Ascended Khasos with a signature item. #601364739993370625 can be a good place to look if you have none.

You'll need to use Nemora to charm him into hitting his own team. Try changing Arden or Rosaline out but putting Nemora in the bottom backline. @vestal island She should be able to live long enough through Last Gasp from Brutus to be able to get a charm off.

[vestal island]

but silvina one shots nemora

[ashen schooner]

Even with the best gear on her? Could try removing all equipment from Brutus and see if his defense falls below Nemora's. Silvina jumps to the hero with the lowest defense. @vestal island

[vestal island]

sure thing, sometimes its abt 3 at best but nemora cant get a charm off

but doesnt she only jump to lowest def mage thou?

[ashen schooner]

Oh right. Whoops. You could do it to Rosaline*.

[vestal island]

Hmm cant do it rosa base stats are alot higher than nemora guess im kinda stuck here for now

[cinder crag]

Any ideas? Ulmus is just a huge pain

[winter arrow]

Guys im planning to switch to saveas soon, what lineup would be good for chapter 9?

i will have 2.7m exp tomorrow so i can:
133 my saveas the rest 101/100
or 121 my sav then 119 tanks 101/100 supports

currently stucked at 9-12 for days

[ashen schooner]

First, don't put Shemira in front of Ulmus. Try @cinder crag
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Grezhul/Brutus
Tasi

[cinder crag]

Tried that doesn't matter

[ashen schooner]

If she has good enough gear she shouldn't die to Brutus as long as she has Call and can heal after ult.

[cinder crag]

Problem is tasi banishes Shem and by the time the effects dispels Shem can't ult and my team is wiped out

So I need to cc tasi or i can't win

[ashen schooner]

Ah okay. Remove your Tasi from my lineup, move Lyca there and put Arden where he is like in your lineup in the top backline.

[cinder crag]

Yeah doesn't work, i think nem is useless there

[ashen schooner]

Shemira can replace him later but if you'd like to replace her with Saveas, that's fine too. You'll just need another tank I'd say, or maybe like Rosaline frontline so she can just go to whomever she usually follows, hopefully not in the way of danger. @winter arrow

@cinder crag What stage is this?

[cinder crag]

20-45

Ulmus is the problem he is just way too broken with ult

[ashen schooner]

Mmm okay. Try
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi @cinder crag

[cinder crag]

Like is this balanced ?

[ashen schooner]

You just really have to keep trying 😅

[cinder crag]

@ashen schooner thanks for help , Shem ult + Lyca ult ( with Shem DoT still ticking got me through ) that said I hate Ulmus stages :)

[ashen schooner]

They don't stop coming... I'm so sorry LOL. Congrats though! @cinder crag

[cinder crag]

@ashen schooner Thanks for help :) and yeah Wilder stages are fun

Btw do you think I should just rush chapter 20 or should I just use afk trick ? İ am pretty much have all m gear mind you @ashen schooner

[winter arrow]

@ashen schooner i see. im hoping to use shemira as well but i cant seem to make shemira work on chapter 9 so im hesitant to ascend her yet to L ( i have coins to buy 1 shem and just need wait for 20+days lab reset to L+ her).
on the other hand, im only waiting for mauler day to ascend my sav to L so i can atleast get him to 121 or so.

can 133/135 saveas 101/100 the rest, carry me out of chapter 9? i heard 1 managed to do so with 139/140

[ashen schooner]

If it's faction specific, that's probably the best tactic: to just steamroll through 20. I didn't make that choice LOL I'm struggling with Mythics rn. You should definitely try to surpass so you can finish 21-1 and start acquiring M+ stones for your faction specific gear. @cinder crag

[cinder crag]

Yeah i just need more faction gears that's it

[ashen schooner]

@winter arrow It's possible, RNG works in mysterious ways. I'd say invest in Saveas as he's more dependable damage-wise until you can invest more into gear and ascensions for Shemira later.

[cinder crag]

Mainly gb hat boots ( peaks) and armor that's it otherwise I have many m gear from stucking

So I should just rush it and use afk method to farm m+ gear in chapter 21 right i can always get more m or m+ gear from shop and honestly i wanna upgrade the shop (21-1) also it's all up to RNG :(

[ashen schooner]

I mean I would personally if I was in your shoes because I got to almost 23 with barely any good faction specifics on my carries and only 3 M+ gears. @cinder crag

[cinder crag]

Huh that's good what do you use for your carry aside from Shem ofc fera ?

[ashen schooner]

I'm using meta team. I wish I had a good Ferael but I'm hoping once I get more copies I can use him 😅 Brutus currently. Only has M+ Helmet. @cinder crag

[cinder crag]

Mine has ( Brutus) mauler helm and boots no weapon or armor though full mytic i need only one elite for A Brutus though so RNG :(

Also what do you think is the best str m+ gear for Brutus ? İ was thinking about m+ helm @ashen schooner

[paper wadi]

any tipps to beat this level?

[ashen schooner]

I would probably say helm too. @cinder crag
@paper wadi Try Tasi instead of Athalia.

[paper wadi]

@ashen schooner ty worked well 👌

@ashen schooner do you think that tasi is generel the better choice?

[cinder crag]

So this stage looks fun any ideas ?

[sleek portal]

brutus swap with shemira, nemora bottom back charm saveas insta kill enemy ulmus, lyca mioddle , arden/tasi top back

[cinder crag]

Problem is sav insta kills Shem

Nem can't charm in time they have lyca too

[sleek portal]

can u show ur shemira's gear?

i think the key difference was that my shemira has M+ faction boots at 5 star

[sleek portal]

that's chapter 20 or 21? if its 20 i did it with m faction gear, if its 21 i did it with M+

[cinder crag]

You can't get m+ gear till chapter 21 so how ?

[sleek portal]

the dodge from the boots helped me pull through, you just need to retry to dodge saveas's first 2 hit, then charm saveas to insta kill ulmus

[cinder crag]

İt's 20-52 also I don't think boots will save me it's mainly nem who needs to charm

[sleek portal]

if all else fails, i'd suggest checking out youtube Ayuh Le and Vitaly .... guy, they really provide the best chapter 20 clearance videos

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag hold on, think i got an ss lemme try and find

[cinder crag]

İt's impossible i don't know why stages like this exist

[sleek portal]

@cinder crag you'll rage even more when you reach 21 lol. they stack all the healers+cc in 21 onwards

[cinder crag]

Balanced

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag probably just rng tbh

[cinder crag]

Yeah cuz putting 5 healers and 3 hard aoe tanks ( Ulmus ) in one stage is definitely a good game design difficulty for difficulty sake yikes

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag i had blade on shem btw, call on tasi

[serene basin]

@clear saddle after taking about 30 mins of actually trying, I got through th last of chapter 14,now on to fifteen, but I got 10 faction scrolls and put them into graveborn hoping for a shemira, so now I have the faction towers, and a legendary shem, soon to be L+when I finish the divine realm PoT and get just a few more lab coins, I have a vedan and silvina, that I never use at L+ as well should I use them as fodder to take shem straight to mythic + when I get two more copies of shem,? Also is the any down side to power farming through the faction tower?

[clear saddle]

@serene basin yeah, no hesitation in sacrificing silvina or vedan, also no. do as much as you can for faction tower each day

[cinder crag]

@clear saddle thanks for help but I can't win this i need 240 Shem or something

[serene basin]

Okay thanks

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag trust me dude, you can make it without 240 shem, you just need good rng. your equipment is all very similar to mine

[cinder crag]

I mean even if i got good RNG how can I kill boss Ulmus ? Ulmus is literally immune to dmg from Shem

[cinder crag]

And one ult it's gg for Shem , also in case you didn't know drape does not increase nemora's healing capabilities chalice does though through bonus percentage hp though you are probably using it on Brutus for tanking purposes right

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag Yes, im aware that drape doesnt increase her healing capabilities, just threw whatever was available on her. maybe drape on brutus is better? but i cleared with chalice

[cinder crag]

I use eye on Brutus

Though i started to use grez as tank instead of Brutus , new grez is fun also his sig is amazing

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag just keep running it in the bg, you'll beat it eventually

[cinder crag]

Yeah i will beat it in the future but atm probably not cuz you had better Wilders than mine mine kinda sucks but that's expected cuz i actually never used a single scroll on Wilders

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag its all Shem dude...

[cinder crag]

İf she can ult yeah and if you are not facing Wilders otherwise nope

[clear saddle]

You know that our shems are almost identical, just keep trying but don’t focus on it

[stark quartz]

should i get brutus or vurk to Mythic

[cinder crag]

Yeah i am not focusing on it cuz if i do i know that I will just rage so it's better to afk for the mean time @clear saddle

[clear saddle]

@stark quartz Brutus imo

[stark quartz]

ok ty

[cinder crag]

Yeah my choice would be Brutus too ez M+ :D he hard carries in towers

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag yeah, do take a break. For me, I just watch YouTube and click retry when I remember to

[cinder crag]

Though vurk and khasos is pretty good too in towers , khasos with axe spam lol

[clear saddle]

I actually cleared 21-4 like that lmao

[cinder crag]

@clear saddle Yeah with this month pretty ripe with good games coming out definitely especially Today

[stark quartz]

atm running Brutus hogan - Sav Vurk Arden/belinda should i change anything

[cinder crag]

Chapter ? @stark quartz

[clear saddle]

Probably keep Arden in all the time, his cc is super good.

[stark quartz]

12 at last stage tho

and should i get brutus to 180 first or get the others to 160

[cinder crag]

You might want to use tasi if you have her too

Get Shem 161 if you can otherwise Brutus can carry but Shem is more reliable

[stark quartz]

even tho shes only L not L+

[clear saddle]

@stark quartz once ur Shem hits M, drop sav and max ur Shem. Also hope you’ve been summons wilders

[stark quartz]

i will

and if i get estrilda L+ i can feed hogan into her right?

[cinder crag]

Wilders @clear saddle

Funny thing is idk why I didn't pull Wilders this is my first account you see and I did many mistakes due to lack of game info , i pulled lb and gb exclusively but now I am done with Those focusing on Wilders now This is what it looks like @clear saddle

[clear saddle]

@cinder crag I mean, your gb looks hella sick

[cinder crag]

Only 1 fera though :( @clear saddle

[stark quartz]

so i use my faction scrolls on wilders then?

[clear saddle]

@stark quartz yep

[stark quartz]

kty

[cinder crag]

@clear saddle Do you need 240 Shem for delves ? Or mine will suffice ?

[clear saddle]

220 is fine, just need fire/ice

[final star]

Halp pls

[clear saddle]

@final star think blade on Brutus and hope for crits, or get a merc warek

[final star]

@clear saddle do u happen to own one

[clear saddle]

Nope, sorry. Do wish I did though

[final star]

Aight ty for tip

[pale kettle]

stuck

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle move belinda to the bottom?

[pale kettle]

nope brutus too op

[indigo jolt]

Switch Nem and Arden, maybe

[clear saddle]

Yeah, maybe u can charm the saveas, but if that doesnt work, move your sav bottom back

[past stratus]

Any suggestions to pass 12-32?

https://imgur.com/a/3HyScHx

[broken egret]

Any ideas here?

[clear saddle]

@broken egret

[broken egret]

@clear saddle what stage is that? 18-20 is either different now or you got a wrong Pic because I think I just beat that one

[clear saddle]

Oh yeah my bad, i didnt label my stuff so im only guessing, but thats from ch18. let me see if i can find the correct one. sorrryyy @broken egret

sorry dude, dont have an actual ss for it but i think i ran brutus instead of nemora front

[broken egret]

And lyca backline or front of shem? Guess I either have to rng it or maybe just level a bit more and try tomorrow or in 2 days

[indigo jolt]

@broken egret

[clear saddle]

Yeah i have huge gaps in my collection cus i forget sometimes lol

[indigo jolt]

Same. Well for earlier chapters anyway

[broken egret]

@clear saddle ye im gonna start to do it now as well to help people I guess. But till now it was all rather easy/doable.
@indigo jolt ty I guess I should be able to clear it with rng than since same lvl shem

[fierce kayak]

@past stratus tasi behind Brutus.

Else try Nemora as bait instead? Remove her gear. Play around backline but silv bait bottom behind Brutus. Your power seems too low too

[past stratus]

Ok i will try, yes i should just wait for levels

[ionic quest]

Got stuck on this one. Any ideas for a good comp ?

[brisk spade]

What would you guys use? I'm using Belinda, Tasi, Brutus, Hendrick and Rosa right now and sometimes switch Hendrick and Rosa for Gorvo and Arden

[clear saddle]

@brisk spade you can probably run Brutus Hendrik Lyca Belinda and Tasi instead. Lyca's haste is extremely good

[brisk spade]

Ok I'll try that

[clear saddle]

You could also use rosaline, she pairs really well with belinda

[brisk spade]

What I was doing 😛

[clear saddle]

Yeah, you probably got the ideal setup for now. Are you stuck? or just asking for whats best?

[brisk spade]

Just asking for what's best, not stuck I think

[clear saddle]

Yeah, think you got solid comp for now

[knotty island]

Hi guys am new an stuck on 5-32. That's my lineup and my heroes. Anyone can help please

[glossy sapphire]

Need help for dps setup on daily guild boss and also pvp line up.thanks in advance

[clear saddle]

@glossy sapphire heres some advice first bedfore ur setup, try and focus all ur levels on one hero who's gonna be ur carry, in this case its saveas. he's your no.1 levelling priority.

anyway for guild hunt you can use: Lucius Saveas, Belinda, Nemora and Estrilda maybe

[warm rain]

Still really stuck on this stage guys - any advice?

[pale kettle]

nothing is working

[sacred talon]

Suggetions?

This stage is almost impossible 😖
It's already hard to beat the demons then the clock guys reset everything

[devout monolith]

Is Safyia good?

[modest lintel]

18-40.. any help appreciated

[pale kettle]

21-60, any ideas?

[paper wadi]

what should i change?

[sharp oriole]

Need some mauler help xD

[pale kettle]

Seeing other ppl's team I think I should get stronger

[sharp oriole]

No nemora or tasi @pale kettle ?

[pale kettle]

No I don't have Nemora so far. As For tasi tbh I didn't try her. My first line dies fast so I am using Arden who being boosted by Lyca can root the Other Arden first. And Erion who pulls Ankhira, Nemora and Brutus in Front of my Brutus In order that he do crown dmg with his ulti. As for shemira she is my best hero but she don't even get to do her ulti

[sharp oriole]

If u borrow a nemora u can charm their Arden or nemora to charm another from the enemy team

[sand kindle]

@sharp oriole u need some A tire merc for it. Like Khasos/Vurk/Numisu

[pale kettle]

@sharp oriole Thanks. That may take some time tho

[viral timber]

12-32, any ideas?

[clear saddle]

@viral timber does the silvina jump your tasi? if so move her bottom so that the brutus tanks the silvina afterwards, also maybe put your lyca top back and hope shem and lyca can kill the vedan early

[viral timber]

yes he jumps to the tasi, the reason i dont have her on the bottom is so that she isnt quite oneshot and can still do things sometimes, because if she is at the bottom the khasos will 100% kill her.
but ye let me try ty

[clear saddle]

@viral timber hmm, you should be able to banish/root him with arden middle before he can kill your backline

[thick wedge]

16-20, any tips? I put nemora in to bait silvi towards brutus.

[sand kindle]

@thick wedge tasi - > lyca and that should go

[clear saddle]

@thick wedge if you can make tasi bait silv, replace nemora with lyca, the haste is crucial for most fights

[sand kindle]

yea or like @clear saddle said. U need fast shemiras ult. Also u can give her sword, so she will cut them to pieces

[thick wedge]

Haven't gotten sword yet but I'll try that. Thanks a lot!

[night patio]

Trying to figure out what I should be aiming for as a 5th or what direction I should go

[viral timber]

@clear saddle it worked tyvm <3

[clear saddle]

@viral timber nice!

[fierce kayak]

@night patio you can read pinned message #classic-questions for early game tips

[shrewd depot]

Hard stuck.

[strange meteor]

I can't seem to beat this team

[still oar]

Put Arden instead of seirus and put him behind luc @strange meteor. It would be easier if you have tasi, athalia or Nara.
And use one of them to prevent ankhira from casting her pyramid