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well does that silivina also 1 shot shemira
It doesn't one shot with safiya
Just have to let safiya get off her first skill and it's done
18-16 for anyone who has trouble with this and searches here like me π€
@forest hedge good to hear
@balmy hinge take out shemira and athalia and put in rosa and lucious
Possible lineup help ? Chapter 9
@balmy hinge you can read pinned message top right at #classic-questions.
Reset fawkes and make Sav 120, the rest 80 first. Then level tank next.
Do ss full roster together with stage for more accurate advise.
Hey guys Iβm stuck at this stage, every one die too fast, could you give me some advice?
khasos is so anoying
Anyone wanna give some advice stuck
@gleaming viper try
Brutus , Lucuis front
Saveas , belinda , rosaline
@gleaming viper btw why do u have another copy of saveas at 125 when u hvee one at 160
@lapis fable show rest of ur heroes?
it's for crystal
YmsL thanks, but the light team doesn't work either, guest I have to wait couple days then come back
@lapis fable no arden?
Nope
you shud get one
Stuck at 9-39
@small egret show enemy screenshot
show the enemy
Can anyone help me with this stage? Feel like I've reached a wall since I can't ascend most of my characters yet. I've tried multiple line ups and they've all failed π
@small egret put your ira bottom back and nara bottom front, need to kill niru first
Think the bug with rosaline is making me lose
Suggestions? Peaks of time
Any help? Please its a cursed stage
i have 8 faction scrolls, i canβt decide for shit. What faction should i try to pull from and should i change my build? i recently pulled brutus / lyra
What would be my best defense for arena? I've gotten a few suggestions and just want to compare, thanks.
@silver citrus Don't do single pulls always pull 10
why though? i already have the scrolls didnβt buy them
You'll get more as you progress, since you're so early on I'd save all scrolls / crystals until you get hard stuck and then ask what best direction you should take
As for pulling 10 at a time it's just better odds
interesting
Still stuck here.... 
Mmmmm yes equality
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/618384555207950346/image0.png
using this old pic, who should i use for guild hunt wrizz/soren? current damage iinm is 70m(75m if lucky?) and soren is 32m(36m if lucky?)
9-16 any real hope of clearing it or am I walked for now
9-20 stuck
need a better team
@pale kettle try to swap arden and nemora, and try to charm enemy nemora
How do i beat this stage, the Nemora is giving me a headache
This stage is a nightmare, any help?
@hidden garden who is silvina jumping at? you have brutus to change for lucius
On nemora. I tried with brutus, its even worse then
make tasi have the lowest def, so she gets jumped and can teleport away from it - what stage is it?
Hey everyone. I have been playing for under a week. Anything I should change or work focus on?
@limpid quail 14-16
have you tried 4 wilders with lyca/shem frontline?
Help please. I can't get past this last stage in Voyage
@waxen dome level arden and estrilda and put lucius/belinda in the chrystal because of the level cap. You dont know when you will get extra copies for them. arden is a rare hero and estrilda can be boguth in the lab shop
Daaaamn i won!! Thanks
@empty sierra definitly play tasi instead of athalia, do manual ultimate and wait until the cocoon ends then ult with tasi for more CC, shemira should be able to take them down in the meantime
@empty sierra try:
Shem
Brut
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
@limpid quail so should i swap lucius and Belinda for Arden and estrilda In my lineup too? what levels should I aim for for each hero in my lineup?
Been stuck for a week I think, any tips?
@waxen dome i dont know what you current lineup is, also it depends on the enemy team you are fighting who to put in there
6-28
@devout idol I would try:
Bellinda
Thane
Estrilda
Lucy
Rosa (Rowan is better)
you should be dumping all your levels in savaes not shemira, shemira isnt that great until after lvl 160-180
@waxen dome Lyca instead of Shemira, and focus all of your future resources on Saveas.
It should be enough to beat ^^
you basically just want to force savaes to 160 as hard as you can
@charred ermine Arden instead of Estrilda to root the Tasi gang ?
@pale kettle Fawkes instead of Arden
Make sure to transfer gears and artifacts
Really struggling with this one lads...
Stuck here on 13-36, any different lineup I should try? Or just wait and level Brutus for now?
Stuck on 11-40, any suggestions? Have tried every setup right now.
@warm rain I recommend trying Brutus Saveas, Belinda estrilda Thane
Which one food for Brutus? Already have saveas L+ but still stuck on 9-20
@ocean musk none, dont fodder ascended heroes
Rip. Then week waiting for lucius mercenary to have chance. Im kinda in need for tank since this hurts as hell
25k crit
@ocean musk youneed saveas at 160, dont level evenly, overlevel your carry instead
I know. Waiting on dust. I spend all my cash on it in shop just to speed up since its hella slow to gain dust. Miss like 250 from 3k to 121.
then kill vedan first by putting him bottom backline, you can use brutus in front of him for the roar, even at E+
Take brutus instead of thoran or kasos?
you can try thoran and khasos as the other frontliner, shouldnt matter
Ok. 121 and i should do it. Still isabelle is pain in butt but when i will delete nemora i should be super fine. For now she remains on one hit before agroo swich on grezghul :/
stuck at 11-32, any inputs? already thought of relevelling my brutus, so that i keep him hat 140 and instead use the dust to make my arden 141, but not sure what is better. currently i take too long to kill the golus, but switching sides with brutus + saveas didnt help either, since then their saveas just kills the rest too fast. and putting saveas frontline didnt work either, since lightbearer kinda fucks maulers.
best case scenario i got so far was ending up with my saveas vs their estrilda + angelo which he then obviously loses :/
Please help me 
Here are the Rest of my heroes + got some elite copies that probably wouldnt help much either
Honestly i would try nara in your lineup as interruper for enemy saveas
@unreal storm backline try
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
So that top dies faster.
Or drop tasi and use
Arden
Khosas
Lyca
Else try afk more for levels
@ocean musk instead of who? lyca or tasi? and so i put her backline top position, how would you setup the rest?
I think lyca because tasi is bonus cc and saveas is already your ranged. Nara should pull one in front of her so that can buy you few secs. Saveas on bottom bc you cant burst golus and angelo might be annoying with heals.
@unreal storm did you buy daily dust? From shop
Better try to burst este than golus since he have tons of dmg reduce
@fierce kayak yeah
@unreal storm great.. just just wait a bit.. same to all of us π
See so close, but apparently I wasted a ton of gold on upgrading gear that I wasn't supposed to, the game literally reccomends you upgrade your gear though smh
Try to get for him(if you dont have already) eye of dura. Crit saveas is beast
hm no nara is not rly working @ocean musk ^^ saveas still gets 1 auto off b4 the pull, and then afterwards either one or two shots nara (so sometimes she doesnt even get off her second hit). tasi is banishing the estrilda, so she doesnt die either and after that the golus is already in the face of saveas since the other 3 heroes are dead from the saveas
but i just tried my old setup, got probably the best possible rng or idk what happend and saveas was able to carry cuz arden & tasi lived long enough that time π
ANY Idea on how i should change my line up after all of my kids hit lvl160? And mirael isn't usable anymore? I thought athalia was good as a DPS, Belinda magicer, and all of the same formation
ALSO i liked kaz, but god damn she won't give me any faction bonuses
Hey guys whatβs the best line up for wrizz and soren?
@obsidian island twins, athalia, baden, shemira, rosa
@Chen#1218 @obsidian island I agree, although I modified a bit in order to use Lucius for "spam shields" since my Athalia is only E+
16-32 help pls
@plush kelp try shemira frontline instead of lyca?
Ok
Would Vedam be able to off tank if I swap him with Golus? I just resseted IRA and Sil for Lyca and Shemira, but front line isn't that strong.
does ur hogan and golus not do enough frontline? if you get an arden for cc, maybe they can live longer
@plush kelp if frontline Shem didnt wrk.
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Il at 4-36 and feel like the front line is the problem
@cerulean cosmos ur frontline will survive longer if you can stall the enemy longer and give time for your carries to kill them. at the end of the day, the goal is to just to stall as long as possible until your carry can deal with them
I wish I had Brutus π
Brutus is only okay at your level, his survivability spikes at 141 though, gets 7 sec of immunity total
Still pretty damn good and consistent from 60 on
Any ideas for 11-40? Cant seem to get enough cc for shemira to carry fast enough, gets fairly close though.
@indigo jolt ty
@real palm you got tasi?
@clear saddle tuesday yea but their units dont give 2 shits about the sleep. They just keep punching my units
@real palm if you can kill the golus' and khasos with shem, then have her ult again, you should be able to win
Iβm stuck at 12-28, any advice?
@real palm I used i believe.
Athalia
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira
@viral timber dont arden frontline, lyca better there?
@viral timber Try will need roots to land on estrilda.
Sav/lyca
lyca/Sav
Tasi
Brutus
arden
k ty @indigo jolt will try a bit. and ye had arden frontline since he "tanks" the most out of the 3 wilders due to level / equip π
Grezhul somehow gets away from Brutus every time and the only 1 I can consistently kill is Angelo. Any suggestions for positioning of Shem and Brutus or which CC to try
Any ideas? 21-60
Arden instead of Lyca, front of tasi and nemora bot to charm arden ennemy ?
Hey guys im Kinda new and Want to ask whats the best to focus on atm
@loud wharf Saveas is who you wanna focus on. There's NO reason to have more than 5 heroes leveled so reset 6 of those heroes
Make sure you do NOT use any ascenion tier heroes as ascenion fodder
Any suggestions on 11-36 help appreciated
@fleet kernel thanks for your help
what are ascenion tier heroes? π
do i get the full material back when i reset heroes?
cause currently i dont really know what heroes are good and if i lvl them and waste materials it would be pretty bad
@weak path maybe swap brutus and lyca pos?
Click on the heroes tab on the bottom right, then click "portraits" and you can see Ascenion tier heroes, Legendary tier, and Common tier. Don't get rid of the Ascended tiers. @loud wharf
@weak path Switch arden and sav, positions maybe.
And yeah you'll get your materials back in full. @loud wharf
and on what line up should i focus? is saveas belinda ogi nemora kaz okay?
Yeah the best I get is killing khasos and saveas before it's my saveas vs the 3 and the slow along with disarm just wrecks. Tried different placements may just be a need to afk and level
For right now just make sure you focus on Saveas. He will carry you through a lot of levels. @loud wharf
Morvus and Estrilda left alive just take down my saveas at 160. If I switch to focus on Estrilda their Saveas destroys my whole team O_o
You definitely have to level other heroes. But Saveas should be priority. Just make sure you only have 5 heroes leveled.
And make sure Saveas stays about 20 levels ahead of everyone else. I think you're going to hit a level cap on Saveas so make sure you ascend him as soon as you get the chance. @loud wharf
Any advice on this lineup? Anyone else I should be focusing on leveling up? Now would be the time to make my main 5 Iβll be using while grinding stages
Lucent vault stuck on the last boss before the chest help!
@shrewd sundial you either need pendant/spider silk or two teams to beat it
Pendant? @whole terrace
The one that lowers hp at start of battle
Kk ty
@unique magnet @wise merlin thanks for the help earlier this morning
Any time friend! ^^
The only follow-up I have is once I replace Shemira with Lyca my team is Lyca, lucius, saveas, arden and Nemora. Should I replace one of them for a front line tank or who should i put on the front line with Lucius?
Newbie player here do you guys think I could make a maulers teamcomp? Or is there anything better I could do ?i use Brutus Saveas tasi nemora lucius. But Lucius dies always fast and supports follow
10-40. Some reason tasi likes to banish the top hypogen mage and not isabella
Any tips against 12-40? Front line gets shredded in a split second..
@split flicker try lyca for tasi and see if the haste boost helps
@fierce kayak so what should my lineup be now?
@summer hatch Shemira Lucius front, lyca Arden nemora tasi (choose 3 out of 4 depending on stage) back.
Nemora middle back to charm fareal. Reset if charm fails.
So Iβm stuck on 10-40. Some reason tasi banishes the top hypogen mage instead of isabella which is killing me
Any advice for 21-9
@limber copper
Need help with 15-34 please
Your line-up already right. Probably just needs rng or rearrange your gears.
If that doesn't work just replace lyca with tasi
@sly sparrow if you have tasi, use her instead of nemora
actually i used tasi and it worked
tasi in place of who?
nemora... i cant go without haste of lyca, and honestly tasi does more than nem for me
Yeah, i thought as much, the haste from lyca is actually so crucial
Any suggestions for this rape fest?
@untold maple probably use your brutus merc instead of ulmus? then maybe run
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
maybe?
Cus rn your ulmus is gonna melt to the maulers
omg i think i will be able to get past chap 15 today
nvm i spoke too soon... one stage after boss and stuck again lol
Mono gb with ferael?
Ferael why
Charm him and use his CC against his own mates
so i guess nemora is in place now?
Yea middle
replace tasi/arden with nem, experiment and see which 1 works, then put her mid
@clear saddle I'll try giving it a shot with that line up and a different tank; I want to save my merc until I absolutely need it before reset π
Yeah, you need to kill the saveas bottom first though, so you need to stack your dps
Tasi should banish him, so Arden should be the option
actually i replaced tasi and it worked...
nice
Wow this is even worser
21-4 Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
i would try using
@ember bane
god double khasos so cancer
Tasi banishes Frontline khasos?
I would use lucius instead of shemira
ye... but ok i got this now i just needed right rng where tasi actually ult
then change arden with fawkes
Ok wow this is even worser
Pssst...worser isnt a word lol as my dad use to say
lol... i know but i think i need arden more on this one than nemora
indeed worser
Try rearrange your gears.
they already have the best one i believe...
Put call on Shem if you haven't. If you use arden
i thought call goes on tasi? so she has her sleep on fast
Sometimes you need shemira to ult faster and put def art so tasi can survive
def art? like drape?
Pls help i have been stuck here forever
@sly sparrowgood shit bro nice progress how have you been?
@tawny jewel lol im trying haha... im good
omg it worked lol.... so i have call on shem, drape tasi, eye lyca and grace brutus and i did it... now onto the last boss
@sly sparrow did you finally get a mehira?
@still oarcan u help with lineup? :( I have been stuck
i wish haha.. game hasnt been nice to me yet my last elites were thane and kelthur... thane is good but i dont like kelthur at all so im sad
Let me check my SS first. Chapter 16 right?
@still oar yea its 16-36
@sly sparrow yea i had bad luck too :(
Ok wow these bosses drain my nerves... whenever i see niru i want to commit non existence
@sly sparrow i got my 8th belinda. Well i guess i had 2 to begin with from the rewards early on, but still 6 belindas?? Comeon
i mean u can make her A at least haha... i heard she is pretty good at wrizz with rosa
@sly sparrow ay look at my boss. At least you got no silvina. But nice your team is shaping out pretty well
trying my best, but... this is not looking fine they wreck me like a lot lol
@sly sparrow yea shes op but i use shemira as i dont wanna swap gear daily. And rosa raine lucius shem grez is good for wrizz too
shem is good yea... thats why i wanna make her to A soon... 3 more copies one from chap 15 one from lab and one lucky pulls i guess
@sly sparrow i have the copies :( i just need 8 rare gbs .. use fodder wisely. Even tho i didnt do any mistakes on the gb heroes.. but i guess i got grez to l+ when i could have left him at e+
omg this boss is frustrating me... its like sundae with cherry on top
@sly sparrow you dont like sundae?
that was just as an example... like sundae means its already horrible but that cherry is niru and shem... so yea π
16-36 help pls
@sly sparrow ahahah (triggered)
@tawny jewel can't find mine. Maybe try
Try
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi/Arden
Lyca
Arden/tasi
Your lyca probably strong enough to tank kaz while nemora charm estrilda.
Who does tasi banish? Bel?
And silvina jumps to?
@plush kelp we are on the same one lol .what worked best for u up until now?
omg even my shem dies so fast... can someone help me ahhhhh D:
@still oar silvina jumps on arden banish on kaz
@plush kelp
Tasi (if silvana jumps on her if not replace armor)
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
@still oar can u help me too please
@sly sparrow you need to kill NIRU first
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca/Tasi
he heals bcs you killed one of his teammates first right?
You need to charm Fareal from Nemora and Kill Niru right after
no my heroes die first... and then everyone dies except shem and then shem even
whatever nothing works... ill leave it
just keep spamming it, sometimes you ll get extra nice rng and you suddenly make it. cant expect to make it in 5-10 tries, sometimes needs 20+
Can your shemira and tasi kaz her ult. Since tasi banishes kaz try replace lyca and shemira's positions.
Another option is
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi.
Tasi should be able to at least tank silvina for one or two hits for rng while nemora charm estrilda so she won't break your team with her charge
@tawny jewel
@sly sparrow you can win it.. it is easy man... dont give up... just need better RNG
@still oar okay i will try thanks
i mean i know i can win but when they ult my shem suddenly cant... even when i swapped lyca out for tasi it was same result
you need Lyca for Arden and Nemora fast root and charm
okay i will leave out tasi for now... thank you... but sometimes it happens she charms someone who is rooted lol
Yeah. Sometimes it's just rng. But some rng needs 5 days

you can even try to replace Lyca and arden position
yea... it is calling RNG... try
No worries. The objective is to make ferael to scream at his mates
fail, try again, fail harder, try again, win
ye dont change your positions after every try aswell, sometimes just spam the same ones 20+ times and it might work XD or you try again at a later point
well for me its just fail fail fail so idk
@still oar do i retry till tasi jumps to safety?
Yeah
Kek
ye but you can see the differences no? sometimes you see the opponnent critting a lot and your heroes not at all, so you just know you cant win it, then you see your heroes crit and theirs do aswell, it changes a bit, you might get 1-2 kills, and then you get the lucky round where you all crit and they dont at all and you clap them etc
not that hard to judge if you had good or bad rng that round, no reason to tilt about it tho :P you dont lose anything if you dont make it, can only win π€·
well i cant win it seems... every turn is same outcome... im tired of seeing them all die again
@still oar tasi asleep shemira again n again do I need change my artifact
im done im leaving the stage.... this is stupid i tried a lot of times and nothing
it took me 63 tries for one stage
i heard ppl try the higher stages 100-200 times lel
but u dont see that every single turn outcome is the same... there is no way it gets better there just isnt
well yeah then you might need more equipment / higher levels, who knows ^^
RNG though. ^
I don't recall what's my arts arrangements @ember bane. But I think my Shem did get the banish. Let me see if I have video
I do have video hold on
Any suggestions except waiting for the 121 spike? Lucius gets deleted before he can ult in all of the positions with leg 4* armor
@ember bane yes she did get the banish
https://youtu.be/SvNDJXMkcHA
(I just removed Arden because he was locking my crystal, plan to get him back when I have the slot)
@sly sparrow 9 has perfect lineup for that stage
hahahahahhahaa
it would be good to show the enemy lineup as well
Any suggestion?
@clever scarab nemora middle back charm faerel , done
@junior zinc needed like brazzillion lucks
Stuck on 9-16. With good RNG, Saveas takes out everyone other than Nemora but she charms and heals herself until time runs out. Do I just need to get more levels, as the power difference is too big?
iβm stuck on 10-40 any help?
dk how to get past it since isabelle kinda always deals a lot of damage in it
Should I eat sav for antandra or brutus?
@strong glen
Maybe
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi/Arden
Brutus
Saveas
Try charm nemora so she would charm her mate
Not yet @stray vortex. You still haven't hit level cap and <161 saveas performs better as carry compared to brutus
I just only use him situationally would the added health not be worth it?
I kinda doubt it really helps that much.
I am not familiar with antandra but 141 brutus is enough for now while saveas can wreck havoc from backline
I feel really stuck on 14-39 I beat the similar line up earlier but I have been here a hot min and I am not sure what to do
@still oar thx
Any ideas
Saveas 141 doubles his attack. Add that to self healing he is madness
I am still a noob, but what would people suggest I used as a main setup?
@craggy talon
Tasi/nemora. Or= nemora/tasi
Brutus. Lyca
Lyca. Shemira
Shemira. Brutus
Arden. Arden
Arden needs to roots Arden and kaz faster while nemora double charm nemora and ogi or just charm ogi.
Tasi probably will banish lyca
10-40. Tasi some reason doesnβt banish isabella and banishes the hypogen mage instead
@still oar only issue is Arden is targeted by Silvania and is melted before he can get a root off
@still oar jk Iβm mixing up levels lol
@modest abyss reset you E rank hereos and level your e+ to break cap and put the usable hereos on crystal
Probably will paly around with
Nemora
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Tasi
I will try to make saveas as carry if I could while also raising shemira as side project.
You can check pinned message in ##classic-questions .
Iβm mixing up levels
Multi accounts problem
@pale kettle probably because the hypo mage has better attack rating. Tasi banishes hero with higher ar, no?
Try Arden instead
Can anyone please help? 15-40
Yes but I donβt know why it would have more than isabella
Let's have a lil' adventure
Lyca
Kaz or brutus if no luck
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Same deal try charm that pesky ferael
The same reason morvus has higher ar.
Isnt it bad when nem charms rooted person though?
Damn... it doesnt work everyone dies anyway... shem doesnt even get to ult with call even
Nothing works.. i give up
Take it easy. Try again tommorow or aftermorrow. Don't get burnt out from rng
Am I just gonna have to wait until I can upgrade everyone or is this not my best possible comp?
Arden over belinda every day of the week. You have one carry already
Lyca, arden, nemora in the back with hogan and saveas up front
Who should I level up after carting Belinda?
Your tanko
Alright thank you
Please help me, I'm stuck
this arden keeps fucking me up any tips?
goodd i hate when i met 5 wilders with ogi and arden
@lethal rivet i usually use athalia to counter arden, but lately arden is the only one that i can counter 
finally got it after enough retries 
haha congratz dude
Any ideas would be appreciated thanks
@mental kraken you have a nice startup
Ideally I get lucius to replace hendrick
This ira is giving me issues
@mental kraken use both
Who would be your backline then?
@mental kraken for now, belinda saveas arden
Ty
Any ideas?
Any suggestions?
@cold marten
tasi
brutus
arden
shemi
athalia
21-60
Any ideas?
@sharp harbor swap arden with lyca
I will try that line up and see if it yields any results @delicate trout
@cold marten if it doesn't work, try to replace arden with lyca, and try to synchronize tasi and shemi ults
I will give those two set ups a try! Thank you. Will let you know if I get anywhere hahaha
@delicate trout could you help me maybe?
@unreal storm your lyca wasn't strong enough to be a frontliner yet
@delicate trout so what should I do then?
@delicate trout do you have any good str items? i mean for using that lucius
Neither set up got me pretty far ππ I am just gonna sit here and hope for the best try those set ups again until I can break through. Just Arden and Nem are killing me cause my heroes donβt attack them and then they just mess with my team and give the enemy back their health
@delicate trout my Lucius just insta dies because he is only elite
Got closer this time!! Will try again to break through
@cold marten try to go on, find the timing when the enemy wansn't got enough crit, and you have more crit, you should've win that
@unreal storm do arden still can roots?
Nemora was the real MVP of that match she saved everyoneβs hides just before they died even Lyca survived to do her ult
@cold marten a perfect timing is win a game haha
@pale kettle i beat 18-40 easily
tasi
luci
athalia
shemi
lyca
18-20 is a lot harder haha
ahhh i just remember, i use 180 cap, wait let me see
Suggested characters?
Whatβs my best team for Soren?
What should I be doing with this. At an acention roadblock with Brutus and Shemira. Should I level up the E+s I have to what?
Should be doable. But unfortunately I don't have the stats of 18 40
Sorry
π
@pale kettle yup, exactly like @still oar 
@still oar you accidentally help me sir haha, thanks, it was 19-6
21-60, any ideas?
Do you have mehira and ezzizh @pale kettle? Even if only e.
I donβt have ezzizh, just mehira. I could buy wrizz from challenger store I suppose
Buy ezzizh* @still oar
Im stuck. Back line gets blown up plz help
@pale kettle this is my lineup. My mate did it with L ezzizh but ezzizh is there just for the buff and bonus
Decide it for yourself whether buy him is worth it
Do you have lyca @brittle maple?
@still oar unfortunately no
Let see
Try
Nemora/tasi
Brutus
Khasos
Saveas
Arden
Try root bloodsnarl and khasos and charm either golus or mirael for her shield
Any ideas?
Stage?
20 27
@pale kettle
19-20 please
Can relevel any...just hard stuck on this, played RNG loads and tried moving around but canβt seem to find a winner! Any recommendations?
@Gavin | Fariz#7217 standard charm ferael
ok will try, thanks
Any suggestions?
Need some help on this one
@twin hound
@still oar thanks for the help, it took a couple tries but that lineup worked
should i post a blue arden?
@strange glen arden is more usefull than serius imo
@still oar that worked like a charm. Are those your personal screenshots or can I access them somewhere?
If it faction tower I used kaz/ulmus nemora lyca tasi and Arden up to floor 80
Mine @twin hound
Do you mind if I DM when I get stuck?
Sure @twin hound. But i am at 22 17 rn. So can't really help further than that
Wilder 87 need help
I mean I don't mind 
@still oar do you have 19-28 sir? my bad
@delicate trout
@pale kettle thanks sir
^ lol
21-60, tried both formations a ton of times but no luck, any ideas?
Need help beating 12-40 please. Any ideas? :)
Don't have the dps to kill tree even with Shem ult
@untold nacelle use the twin instead of shield guy
@tacit kayak e ezzizh and mehira will do
@ripe lodge Try
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Try switching Arden and Shemira too
They pretty much get one shot sadly.
@untold nacelle Mmm try switching Nemora or Tasi out for Hendrik
my brutus dosent have enough stats to do anything
He should still be able to stand his ground versus Kazβs dodge
i @still oar i dont have ezizh, any alternatives or should i try to score a merc?
@untold nacelle
Twins or tasi
Hendrik/luc/brutus
Rosaline
Hendrik/luc/brutus
Belinda
Belinda with the help of rosaline night be able to double bursts vedan+niru while the others stall and do the defs
If you can score a merc try do so @tacit kayak. He is there for energy regen buff and hypogean faction bonus
25-10 any help. I usually have Fareal but managing Fawkes seems to be needed...
@frank oracle Iβd invest in Lucius being in frontline over Thane.
He just gets wrecked whenever I try that though
Maybe if I get lucky enough to ascend him
Man 12-4 what to Do, Brutus is annoying to fight :D
@foggy radish
arden
lyca/brutus
beli
lucius
fawkes
@delicate trout any tips u can throw me for my lineup?
@delicate trout okay i will try ty :) but since sav carries me hard i hope there will be enough dmg
@vast coral not mine
Is my squad starting to plateau? Ch 11 proving to be quite difficult
Here's my next roadblock. I've tried swapping in Athalia to occupy Arden but still no go. Any ideas?
@eager jay i'm at the same stage rn but i'd probably run
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Nemora will charm other nemora who will in turn charm another enemy
@still oar thanks got wrecked but the Lucius behind lyca is interesting
The Silvina on 20-26 is ruining my day
@eager jay @steel moat
@mystic barn
18-24 my tanks just aren't holding up. Too underpowered?
Thank you!
@sharp hornet
Here was my setup, but you would use brutus in place of estrilda
Hmm I'll keep giving it a try
You guys grab screens for every level? Smart
try swapping brutus and tasi, then swap nemora and shemira, try to charm the top estrilda and kill her fast, brutus should be able to kill lyca pretty quick because of faction advantage @sharp hornet
I only do boss stages unless a non boss is outrageously difficult π
i just grab screens for stages that I know fellow guild mates are stuck on usually, but they tend to be common wall stages for people
Please help
@still oar thanks! Who'da thunk lvl1 Nemora was the answer, π
how important is to build a team with same faction?
I am new to the game, completed 7 days
@junior solstice its really important...
@unique magnet awesome I'll. Give it a try
@frank oracle thane is bad for early game, try to use your lucius
Eh, I've gotten to Ch20 without a faction bonus on my main climbing teams. But it starts to become more relevant for faction towers after Ch15 @junior solstice
OK, thanks. Does my team look decent? I have 10 scrolls which I can use on faction summon
I am at 6-28 chapter currently, completed first chapter in Peaks of time
it's awfully hard to say, what you have could change pretty dramatically if you were to use all your summons
ya, I kept changing till I landed on this, as I drew heros
now I only have 10 scrolls on faction summon left, not sure if I should draw on graveborn
Ideally, if I get a tank in graveborn, I could change Hogan for it
grezhul is available through arena tokens after 9-20, and thoran will be added into lab rewards this patch
@unique magnet my team still gets ran through I don't kill a single unit
I already have Grezhul in line-up, probably helps to upgrade him, but Thoran would be nice for replacement
I mean replacement for Hogan
@fierce kayak thanks for 18-35 worked for me ππ
@steel moat do you remember the placement?
Shemira
Lyca
Arden'
Estrilda
Tasi
from Cordelia's SS @sharp hornet
@sharp hornet here my 18-24 all my stuff worse Than yours except ascended shem
Yes,
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Estrilda (Brutus for you)
Tasi
You can switch Brutus and Lyca's positions if Lyca is going down too quickly for Shemira to survive
@delicate trout the thing is that my thane lasts to the end and does hella damage while Lucius dies immediately
What would u think about putting in legendary tier Isabella instead of thane ?
@steel moat I'll give it a try but yeah they both go down quick even brutus
do you have saveas? @frank oracle
How is your lineup geared? And i think if anything getting one of your L+'s to M to break the 160 level cap will help a a bit
Unfortunately not
Not really the place for it but anyone have advice on what signature items I should work on?
Can't defeat 5-20 boss need help in lineup or maybe change hereos does someone have any ideas?
@steel moat I just asked some if I should take lyca to M or tasi to L+ and they said tasi......
Unfortunately not @delicate trout
id always go lyca first
It's situational, I didn't have A shemira for a long time so i've relied on M lyca to offtank for me, L+ Tasi holds up well even in ch 20
Think if I just upgrade me team and maybe add Isabella itβll work? Cuz Iβm able to get to 3 left on low hp @delicate trout
I'm guessing my pictures for gear didn't post?
I have a L+ tasi and im on map 22, I got my lyca to 220 A first, and then my nemora to 200 A, and its been fine ive never needed tasi any higher yet shes so RNG dependent
Someone with a good idea here?
It said too many attachments
@unique magnet whelp should have asked for a second opinion lol.
@obsidian bridge Depends do you mean which to take to + 20 next , or planning on going for a +30?
Having lyca at higher tier is significantly more important, tasi doesn't really need to be mythic or above to be effective
lol i mean youll want tasi eventually.
Any advice for 16-20?
Ah i had probably around 3/5 of heroes with full mythic gear at that point so that might be a difference, how about switching shemira and lyca's positions in the setup I suggested?
@indigo jolt really both. I have some at like 1 some at 10 and some at 20. I can upgrade any really just not sure where to put resources
@honest storm
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Tasi
@obsidian bridge Assuming you want to concentrate towards campaign progression in the now and future. I would say go Ferael and Lyca. Ferael will become a staple later on, and Lyca is always good, based on what you havent done so far.
@tepid current
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Do you have tasi? If not then make sure nemora def. is lower than arden's so that silvina jumps her and not him
@hidden stone can you send a full hero list? I'm trying to see if you have some wilder cc characters π
I do have tasi yes
Ah in that case i think you should use her instead of nemora since she can teleport away from silvina
@steel moat just try it, will let you know
Well tasis ability to jump doesn't matter much when she gets oneshot by silvina jump lol
Put def art on her
Nemora
Lucius
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
I'm not sure if shemira can frontline at this point but I suppose it's worth a shot @hidden stone you can also try swapping lyca with fawkes if you think it will help
@tepid current are you switching gear over to her?
Shemira can Frontline shes always last to die. Tasi doesn't actually get oneshot but the auto after while she's stunned kills her even when I switch gear and artifact over
Oh the shemira question wasn't for me lol
Even when silvina doesn't crit, does she ever get to teleport away?
She very rarely gets to tp away but dies in a few seconds anyways
Sometimes she will go behind a far away backline ally so she won't die, although if you are really struggling you could try nemora instead
No matter the formation I use I'm having trouble killing more than 1 of them per fight. It's usually Angelo. Grezhul dodges my Brutus every time I put them against each other and he just ends up somewhere else.
Whoever silvina is jumping is dying either way. None of my wilder heroes r strong enough to survive long
@fleet kernel
Tasi
Shemira
Arden/Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
I would recommend resetting brutus to 200 and using the dust to get shemira to 201
Worked @steel moat thanks
@tepid current
If that the case try
Nara
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Can at least Nara ground silvina until tasi is close to ult.
And Arden probably roots grezhul at least
Okay wtf. @steel moat that's what I've been using since like chapter 15, (this is 18 now). So....this actually worked but I guess I just needed the RNG to side with me...
Pretty much any comp with wilders
Yes, past a certain point beating stages in 1 try isn't really realistic anymore and it all depends on rng
Nara? Who Dat
Where should I put everyone cause everyoneβs dieing quick
Advice/assistance? Please
Oh found nara. I have just an E copy of her not on my crystal tho
Who does fawkes coffin?
Shemira but he dies too
@warm ginkgo how about this?
Tasi
Brutus
Athalia
Shemira
Nemora
@tepid current try mirror this comp to your stage
My entire team dies in a minute
@hidden stone what about swapping lucius and shemira's positions and arden and nemora's positions?
We lived a bit longer but shemira gets very low hp early
@steel moat
Tried it out 6 times. Nemora dies almost instantly every time. Then Shemira dies right after she ults, followed by Athalia and Tasi (mostly at the same time, but Tasi survives slightly longer otherwise), and Brutus goes 1v5 ults, And then dies after his ult
Is there any way you can get shemira over 180? Also who does tasi banish?
No. It would take a long while. (Considering canβt get as much dust from lab anymore).
She banishes Khasos. Fawkes also coffins him.
Ai Brutus tends to massacre my team when he ults. Heβs who kills Athalia and Tasi
Alright, what about swapping athalia for lyca?
@steel moat
Thank you. That was stressful to watch. Every single battle was completely different. Itβs completed now
No prob π yes rng is a huge factor in late game and can turn entire battles around
Anyone got tips? 15-40, itβs the last boss
13-12 kinda stuck lol
@elder valley Drop tasi for arden if you have. Move nemora to middle. Try till you charm fareal.
Rowan then maybe or Rosalina.
did u try using fawke and rowen
i cleared that stage not too long ago and i think i used fawke/athaia top to cc shemira with lucius/shemira and rosa if i remember correctly
Whatβs the level on those? @last latch
Oh I see
Guys I'm stuck at this lvl. how can I improve my formation?
Switch Shermira and Vedan
Need ideas please
@ancient oasis
@elder valley drop tasi for Arden. Nemora Lyca switch.
Key is nemora charm fareal. Reset if charm fails.
Either you build an Arden now, or borrow from others. Else this issue will cont haunt you later
Stuck for a while, any ideas?
@fierce kayak well shit then, gotta get myself an arden then
Help
unga
@strange glen
Any ideas? I've been stuck here for a good 300 tries, trying all sorts of rotations. Its 18-40
Nothing seems even close to working
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Estrilda/brutus/tank
Tasi
@mellow hound someone did it with that comp.
Arden gets killed by something even before his tangle. I dont get how he's supposed to survive...
Give him better boots and put grace to increases his dodge
This is what happens every run
Sorry wrong SS. Hol up
To early for me
@minas i beat 18-40 easily
tasi
luci
athalia
shemi
lyca
This one is the correct one
My lucius is e+ and athalia is e
Use Athalia or Nara to delay Arden's roots and play with RNG
I don't have my SS for 18 40 but I did have 19 6 with 200 Shem, 176 and 160 crystal
@mellow hound lyca frontline with Arden back top, need him to not die to Shem but to still root
Right....
Ya that aint happening
Taking hits stops his rooting animation which means it just doesn't happen and he dies.
I give up, fuck this level
17-36, any suggestions?
How will I beat 15-40?
@lone shale shemira just M or M+?
M+
Not good luck on getting enough of him.
@lone shale really? All those upgrade Wilders and none of them were fed ardens?
Nope, they were fed Ogis and arrow girls.
That might be your problem cause you are missing him and lyca for the meta team
I got enough dust to get Brutus tasi or Arden to 121, whatβs my best bet?
I mean Brutus nemora or Arden, not tasi
Any ideas?
Y u still using Saveas? Use Shemira in his place u dum dum, try:
Shemira/Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Tasi/Shemira
Nemora/Shemira
@cold marten
Help?
@brittle maple aredn quicker to 141 the better
@cold marten also reset your nemora and even your Brutus and get shemira to 200
@zinc summit decrease everyone and make saevas 160
@zinc summit why do you have 6 heroes leveled?
I just had him there as one try I was using different combos @sudden sparrow hahaha I donβt use him much anymore but thought to give it a try and @sharp hornet I canβt get Shem to 200 cause sheβs only at M so sheβs stuck at 180 until I can get a leg+ fodder for her π
@sharp hornet I already have enough to make saveas 160 I had to reset him to make my crystal 120 I'm just waiting on dust right now
@cold marten did you finish the peaks of time for the free one?
@sharp hornet and its peaks of time
free one? What do you mean?
@zinc summit yes but why do you have a 6th hero leveled up and reset them he needs to be 20+ levels above everyone else.
@sharp hornet I dont have 6 hereos leveled
This gives you a free one
Just lyca,saveas,shem,tasi,arden
I had just started that and I havenβt been able to get far cause I kept dying
Hey everyone, I'm still new to this game. I'm stuck on 6-28. Here's my lineup. Any help would be greatly appreciated
@sharp hornet will he help me progress in the interim? Or is there a better choice for progression
Wait, that's wrong. Hang on
Thatβs cause it sets based off the heroes you currently have so mine is higher level and I havenβt tried it in a while so I will probably get farther now
@cold marten give it a try make sure you get Mythic equipment for shem too.
@brittle maple once 141 yes as he entangle 3 opponents. None of the others will matter before 141 anyways
@ivory drum show your full roster
I got the Shem!! @sharp hornet but I still need to wait for a leg+ fodder to get her to M+
@cold marten nice congrats what about the one from lab?
I have two Shem e+ now I was lucky to pull her a few times and got her through the event they had
@cold marten maybe get some faction scrolls for a gb day
@cold marten I just have 1 shem currently so it sucks. I'll have another from lab in a week or so need 10k more points. Hopefully I pull a few soon
Stuck 13-4 any suggestions for me
Shit bro Iβm stuck on the same stage
@lapis fable
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Tasi
You'll have to put arden in the crystal though
Ok I'll try that
Actually i need some help of my own, this is 20-40 π³
Help, stuck on 15-40
Hi stuck on 9-39 any help is appreciated thanks
@steel moat thanks still get my butt kicked any other suggestions
Stuck on 20-16. Any suggestions for this stage?
@obsidian pewter
Tasi (switch for arden if you have him)
Lucius/Brutus
Nemora (charm ferael)
Shemira
Lyca
@jaunty glade
Tasi
Brutus/Saveas
Arden
Brutus/Saveas
Lyca
@brittle summit
@steel moat did you stop using Arden around chapter 20?
I haven't used him for a while but technically he's still viable
@lapis fable what's the problem with that setup? Is it that the frontline goes down too quickly?
I see. I'll try the setup out at least and see how it goes. Who should Nemora be charming?
Yeah
Brutus, although you could switch her to bottom back so she charms isabella
@lapis fable can you reset belinda and push saveas to lvl 160? Belinda is better late game or so I've heard
arden is still usable in 21.
Went from 15-16 to 15-33 in twenty minutes I know I am gonna lose all my luck soon
@steel moat that's for your help needed some more Mythic gear but got through it with your lineup and some rng help lol
Oh nice! Mythic gear can be a lifesaver sometimes π
@steel moat I feel like arden to tie up that backline for you
I'll try it with him instead of nemora sometime
Can someone help me? I'm stuck on 6-28
@steel moat any help with tower?
@ivory drum
Fawkes (manual ult to cancel brutus's immunity)
Estrilda
Mirael
Hogan
Athalia
@sharp hornet
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
@steel moat keeps coming down to Brutus killing everyone when immune
Do you have fawkes?
@steel moat thanks. I'll give it a shot
@steel moat nope finally rnged it
Though very next level is double Brutus again, this time with nemora......
Charm nemora and she will charm one other enemy
@steel moat took me a few tries but, I finally beat it. Thanks a lot
Np glad to help!
13-4 kicks my ass
Help wanted with 19-20 because enemies keep melting my team.
@umbral badger take out your lucius and put your shem frontline, then put lyca behind her, tasi top. You want your shem and lyca to kill the niru first if possible
Actually, if your lucius can survive longer than brutus, then you can go ahead and use him instead, but main goal im sure you know, charm ferael, have him fear his own team then tasi ult and shem ult. basically pray to rng
@clear saddle Trying. Niru keeps topping back up to and finishing at 100% health, maybe because I don't have the copies of Shem for Ascended yet. I'll keep at it!
@umbral badger Im pretty sure you can make it past ch19 with those ascensions, how close r u to A shem?
@clear saddle Buying 3rd of 4 copies needed from lab store when it resets tomorrow IIRC. Need only one more fodder E+ to Ascend Estrilda, then just dust to bring my crystal to L181.
@umbral badger idk my shem was A but still 200 when i passed 19, but the ascension does make a big difference, what artifacts are you running?
I ran Blade on shem, drape on brutus, grace on lyca, call on tasi and eye on arden btw
aight i gotta go, class starting π
Best of luck
Weird that Fereal didn't get charmed, but I'll gladly take the RNG! Usually blade on Fereal, call on Shem, drape on Lucius, Grace on Estrilda so she survives jousting, and eye on Brutus.
@clear saddle Thanks! Will try your artifact dist
@steel moat that worked thanks I rerolled the shemira to relevel the saveas
Okay getting absolutely demolished. Any advice. @clear saddle @steel moat
@novel oar arden over 141 not Belinda is first
Should I raise nemora to mystic with the other wildlings ? Then I can up Arden
Who would you use to raise nermoa?
@sharp hornet
Ogi and ira
So
Shemira
Brustus
Lyca
Tadi
Nemora?
@steel moat thanks for the setup I think I'm finally just underpowered. Your heroes are a good 15 levels ahead of a few of mine
The order is from positions 1-5 so it would be
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
You might be able to do it because this is a very rng dependent stage
Any suggestions for 16 36
Looks like a good setup to me, tasi is getting attacked by silvina and estrilda is getting rooted right?
Yes
I think you might need to put some levels into your other heroes and try to get them to 160, but otherwise that setup should work well
@steel moat yeah I'm thinking that. Who am I trying to charm niru?
@sharp hornet fucking arden is binding everyone
@steel moat I copied myself lol. Arden is killing my team
Any help here? Stuck on 21-60. A little dust-locked at the moment waiting to get shimmy to 240.
Whatβs the standard meta lineup for 21-4?
@plucky flint look up l4mp vids on yt.
@golden spade thx
Iβm stuck on the much more annoying variation of that map..
@pale kettle does ur arden root? if not, swap brutus and lyca position?
@plucky flint I ran
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
arden
it took over 100 tries i think.
@pale kettle try
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Shem
Tasi
maybe? or swap nemo and arden position idk
Stuck on 21-60. Havenβt been on this one long but it feels like the first since 20-33 where Iβm not even close to beating it.
Arden top then isntead of nemo
18-40 is the first video I made on YT 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LslGVde2NWU
use nemo to charm ogi and arden
idk, i dont have my phone with me now, cant check lineup, can only guess rn
@pale kettle same here lol
idk ch18 and ch19 was not much trouble, shouldnt take long
Man, pre-nerf 14 was the biggest hell ever
lyca still just E
@silent wraith might be that A shemi. I have higher level everything else and still can't clear it
they made it easier i think
@pale kettle if you're still on later, i can check if i've got an ss for that stage. Right now im just assuming. Its a lot easier to adjust your formation if you can see whats going on
Yeah, you need your lyca to run into the ogi and have your arden root first, make sure u have eye on him
I didn't think arden was in the meta for this level
Try and see, it might be the dealbreaker, @sharp hornet arden is meta from like ch10-22
@golden spade thanks for the tip. That yt lineup worked after about 10 min of spamming it.
@plucky flint those vids helped me for a while up til prob around 40 or so.
@clear saddle yeah but everyone I've seen complete 18-40. Is tasi, lyca, shem and brutus
Idk how they're gonna beat the arden without either nemora or arden, you either need really good boots on nemo, or just use arden instead
Depends how long ago the screenshot was, they nerfed nemora's charm a while back so older videos might not work
But thatβs cause I donβt have a good Estrilda. Yours is ascended so you can prob follow him for a while with that.
And nemora sorry
I beat 18-40 with 4 wilders. It didnβt seem close to working until it did. Nothing else seemed close to working either.
you have to reset until you find the win conditions, so you reset until nemo charms ogi to allow shem to survive
Itβs annoying how that works. Iβll be stuck on a level then Iβll finish it with 4 heroes still alive.
@silent wraith did u clear ch21 with 220 shem?
@pale kettle I took Mythic gear off of tasi and boots of shem and cleared it in like 6 tries.
@sharp hornet what was ur end setup?
Shemira, lyca, nemora, Brutus, yasi I took Mythic gear from tasi as she has 3 pieces and boots from shemira and put it on nemora
@clear saddle Iβm trying my damnedest to clear 21 with 220 shem but itβs annoying af..
@golden spade im just waiting till 240 shem tbh, just cba
Iβm 25k dust away, which with champs of Esperia will take like a week but Iβm impatient af.
So I have enough tokens to buy grezhul. He is currently at L and can make L+ as I just got another one. However athalia is at E+ should I save for her? I don't have a second copy to make her L yet
@pale kettle for nem to charm i had 4 star non faction M boots
@pale kettle same
That was her setup
Like I said took a few tries and some weren't even close
Yeah my shem is all 4* gear though none of it faction specific
@sharp hornet ...
@clear saddle I know probably a mistake.....
Though the rest of it is wilder faction so will be useful I guess. 1 lber.
So close to A nemora
@sharp hornet where r u stuck
@silent wraith not anymore yet lol. Just cleared 18-40 with everyone's help. @pale kettle is still stuck on it though
nice grats
@silent wraith what was ur crystal for 21
@pale kettle you need your nem to charm the arden, if that doesnt happen, reset
Charm the arden and he'll root his own team. If you run arden instead of nem/brutus then you want the ogi to be charmed
crystal level etc
u mean resonating?
cmon bruh
no need to get angry mitch, but as i showed u awhile back u can get to 21-51 with 220 shem
bruh bruh bruh
@nimble dune nemora, charm him so he fears his own team
Thanks
I guess I just have to wait till Iβm strong enough. Even at level 160 she doesnβt have enough time to charm anyone.
@nimble dune you need maybe arden to root him first then your nemo can charm
@nimble dune you have lyca?
Yes
Firstly, reset some heroes and get your shem to 180, then you can run lucius/estrilda, shem, lyca nemora and arden
@nimble dune reset belinda, saveas to 140, then max ur shemira
Can someone help me and tell me why I canβt beat 7-30 with this team? Am i missing something?
So i was doing Lab... im stuck
@white hearth use lyca instead of raine?
any suggestions? think ive tried every position with my main comp so far and nothing has come close
But is losing faction bonus worth that? Also raine is elite+
@lethal rivet swap shem and arden position, get good boots on him
even when he gets his cc off everyone gets pretty much oneshot besides shem
uwu... me again...
@clear saddle whats the correct positioning for the comp now - put in lyca like you suggested
looks good
@pale kettle if u watch my vid, nemo charms arden right after charming ogi π
Got steamrolled same thing. Not sure how to progress in the game now. My entire comp depends on Lucius using his ult and hd takes FOREVER each time. Any way to make him ult faster?
Who is it thatβs preventing me from using my ultimates?
@pale kettle Story of my game
It worked, thanks
How does this lineup look? Anyone else I should be using?
first of all, why tf did you level 2 khasos? and about the lineup. hard to answer without knowing all your heroes
that's not mean in any way
@lethal rivet if you have 4* Mythic boots put them on nemora and switch with arden. Also swap lyca and shemira. Got it done for me after about 6 tries. Just need some rng
I have two leveled because there both elite +. I can take them past level 100 so my resonating crystal can bring up Lucius and Nemora and Tasi
@rain zinc
Mid game meta heroes usually consist of
Shem, brutus, and 3 wilder..
Your hero already good enough bruh
I never said the opposite. it was just a question
And yes Iβm very new
still, we need to see your full hero roster to tell you if there is maybe a better lineup
Here is all of my characters
@rain zinc its a good start... and dont forget not to feed your ascended heroes bruh...
So 4 different skills would just mean the best heroes in the game right. I know I can manually check how many skills they have, but what actually determines the amount of skills a hero has? Their color rating?
not necessarily the best but you can level legendary heroes only to 160. in your hero roster there is a portraits tab. there you can see all ascended heroes listed. that determines how many skills. "ascended" is a rarity
Anyone has any idea what to do here?
Hey all! Iβm stuck on 10-36 and Floor 134. Just wondering how yβall suggest putting these guys together and hope rng is in my favor or keep afk for more rolls
please post the enemy lineup of 10-36
@lilac musk I like brutus with lyca behind on niru stages, he needs to die first.
I can't kill him
Sorry! This is 10-36
Need help
Been using khasos/kaz front, saveas/nemora/lyca back since I started a few days ago, starting to struggle around 6-20. I'm considering changing things up, either trying to fit Arden in there, or to boot khasos/kaz for baden/vedan. Any advice? See the hero screenshot below:
Plz help, stuck here for 2 weeks
@loud vessel I would try to use lyca gorvus and tasi, with Belinda that high it should be enough for dps, just need more supports, one more up to you but if lucius can ult the just use him
@lavish plank I think you can just replace nemora with arden
When he has two roots or more
What's the best overall setup here? I have Mythic Int gear on Belinda, should i drop Saveas and level up Belinda?
@ionic jackal huh, that hadn't occurred to me at all, I feel like I'm getting a lot of use out of nemora, especially in lab. mind explaining your thoughts behind that?
I feel like the weakest link in my lineup is Kaz, she dies really qiuckly at lv81, so that's what I figured I'd want to replace if anything
Any advice or am I just not strong enough?
29 levels should be doable... but will take a lot of attempts . I like putting lyca on athalia with grace and dodge
Lab is different from pve of course, you need sustain so nemora is good, but in pve sometimes her heals doesn't do very much and her biggest value is her charm, while with Arden 2/3 roots is better cc then nemora. Well Kaz died fast but bcs it's a mauler chapter, also you don't have a better Frontline. Wilder is too good to use and you need to sacrifice formation bonus if you want to use someone else but I don't recommend that in the early chapters
@lavish plank
Or if saveas Ascension and level is high enough you can put him out front and just use nemora lyca and Arden, or just put lyca front for her haste and let her die
Also you can try to experiment using lightbearer formations, it can works with mauler chapter, fawkes is great to use
Iβm level 68 and still stuck on 8-40. I can make one legendary out of each faction presently. Should I do that instead of hoarding my E+?
hmm... so maybe something like this?
lab: front khasos/kaz, back nemora/saveas/lyca (unchanged from what I'm already using)
story: front khasos/lyca, back nemora/saveas/arden (booted kaz for arden)
@keen bison @keen bison Take a look at the pinned mnessage in #classic-questions about ascending to L and L+ its a helpful read
@keen bison read the pin messages in #classic-questions , it's good not to waste fodders, if you need to leg quickly then just leg non Ascended heroes such as saveas or Arden so they can be leg+ easily and become fodders much later
Thanks
@lavish plank yeah, it looks good, remember to prioritize upping saveas since he's your carry with that formation
Can I get some advice on which GB to work on? I'm trying go climb the faction towers, currently at 121 GB. I'm lvl 250.
@toxic iris if you can get more copies ferael gonna be your best friend in GB faction campaign and pvp. I would use the lab store with thoran being added to build him. Hes very usefull in gb tower and will be in late campaign as well
@mild wing thanks! I was debating on thoran, I've fed so many copies of him to speed up progress, but I'm glad to see he's useful
Having his sig at least unlocked makes him viable and you really need him for tower 160+
18-40 I just can't do it
@lofty depot swap Brutus and Shemira around. Try having another graveborn instead of daemon spawn woman.
@vast coral Rip there's server maintenance now, I'll try it after that!
@lofty depot Iβd try triple DPS the enemy graveborn.
Shumira, Lyca, and swap out the graveborn youβre using in the middle for someone else
β’Tasi imo
β’Brutus
β’Different graveborn
β’Shumira
β’Lyca
Try it a couple of times and it should work. Reset if the gnome roots your shumira and Lyca before killing the enemy graveborn
Quad wilder did it for me on 18-40
I'll give it a try, thank you! @pale kettle @lament vapor
@lament vapor @pale kettle @vast coral Nope they kill everyone and root my Shem and then kill her
The only thing I had on you was 161 crystal... How close are you? You can probably get it without though just need some good rng
@lament vapor Not very close I have like no fodder, only Ascended tier heroes, which is why I need to finish this stage for the 18 faction scrolls so I can summon more Wilders haha
How do I know if I can defeat wrizz in lab?
Wow I defeated hard mode for the first time
@lament vapor
Nice
Any advice for wrizz?
Any ideas or do I have to use merc
@tepid current Is that in lab?
No just for guild boss. I'm not sure what the best lineup to do the most dps is. I normally use shemira nemora and 3lb to buff shemira
@tepid current why dont you ascend tasi to L+?
rosaline is great for guild hunts abtw
19-38 need help.
@cinder crag Hello there π
I believe that if you'll replace your Arden with Nemora and charm enemy Arden, both Ulmus's will be stubbed and maybe even the other Arden, since enemy does not include a Lyca, you have the haste advantage.
Give it several shots! RNG will be your guide.
Best of luck~ 
Hi , thanks for the help gona try 
One problem is that shem's DoT might not be enough to kill ulmus and warek :(
what is my best team for Soren?
Stuck on 18-40
Any clue what I can do
afk more and make your L+ to 160
@north pelican Hey there! 
Put Brutus up against Ogi, as a first, the faction advantage would do you wonders. ^^
If that doesn't help, then maybe a worth-while sacrifice to level Shemira to 181 will help better than Ferael, as he's still not at his peak level, nor Ascension tier yet
Thanks my friend. Stick with the wilders?
@pale kettle
Put your formation like so :
Belinda
Lucius
Mehira
Brutus
Tasi
Thanks
@north pelican I'm not a huge fan of Arden, I'd swap him with Nemora since she's more useful overall
But it's your call, if you believe he will do better ^^
@wise merlin I was thinking the same. Honestly , I wanna fodder him to make my nemora mythic but people are saying that Arden is useful til ch 20
@wise merlin how would my formation look like though
@vestal island Hey there friend ^^
Give this a shot!
Rosaline
Brutus
Tasi
Arden
Belinda
I don't trust this formation all that much because of the lack of tanks and the fact that your Shemira is not at peak, if that doesn't work, I'm afraid you'll need further AFK time!
No worries juz managed to clearπ
@lunar drum What enemy hero(es) is/are giving you trouble with that part of the campaign?
Can someone help? Been stuck for around 2 weeks now
@wise merlin the formation you gave me was good but Lucius is so weak
@north pelican Arden is useful but is not a necessity.
I use Kaz instead of Arden and a Nemora & Lyca & Tasi backline, I' passed chapters 17-19 all by myself and at 20-32 because of that.
Arden is useful and all, yes, but there's always a better bet. Also, you can always get another Arden back on its Ascension tier with enough fodder.
12-4 any ideas? :(
I need a friend that had legendary Lucius or something
@pale kettle Did you transfer the equipment? Do you have Dura's Grace? If so, hand it to him!
I'm stuck at 9-38 got any suggestions ππ£?
@last granite Swap the positions of Lyca and Nemora, make sure Shemira is charmed, and put Tasi in Lyca's updated position, so Nemora won't try to charm Silvina instead.
Best of luck ^^
@wise merlin Yes and I gave Belinda dura's call and Brutus dura's eye
@wise merlin okay will try, thanks!
@pale kettle Give call to Tasi
@wise merlin ok I'll give it a try thanks
Legit been stuck on this for 3 days, any suggestions lads?
@reef hawk Hello there friend :D
How about you give this a small try? :
Instead of Rosaline, put Tasi, and change your formation to look like this ;
Lyca
Lucius
Nemora (charm Isabella if able to)
Saveas
Tasi
Ill try ir @wise merlin
Please know -- None of your posts are being ignored!! It takes time to view and come up with a valid formation for your troubles!! Patience shall be your virtue 
@reef hawk Consider using Rowan in place of brutus. Slot Sav on the frontline and have Rowan in the #4 position (mid-back.) Rowan's potions really help the main carry stay alive, and his ult will increase Sav's dmg rating by 40%!
@warm rain I'd swap the Arden with Lyca, and place Silvina to deny Nemora's charm,
I'd also consider to remove her from Crystal and put someone else there, because you'll end up forcing your level cap for Crystal to be stuck at 120 instead of 140 once you'll fit 5 L tier heroes.
@foggy radish Hey there friend ^^ have you passed the level yet?
If not, would you like to DM me?
@wise merlin thanks it worked took 3 tries but it worked ! Let me take a look who rowan is @flint karma
@wise merlin I tried your lineup. It's a little bit counter-productive since my nemora can charm enemy shemira but enemy shemira is either banished by tasi/ disabled by my shemira so she doesnt attack enemy team
Anyone got tips to help me out
@wise merlin nothing ainβt working for me π¦ I may have to afk
@wise merlin youβre an absolute legend β₯οΈ
Niru is just fking me up
@reef hawk Glad to hear it worked! Best of luck further on! β€
@warm rain You're welcome friend!! Have fun~ π
@north pelican Don't worry, I'm sure that it won't take long, either way, keep playing with the formation! I'm sure you'll figure something out!
@last granite Ah Shemira is being banished? Then maybe charm another DPS versatile hero in the enemy team, mayhaps Isabella? Or Angelo?
Nicky can you help me?
Of course, in a bit ^^
@wise merlin okay thank you I'll try that. This wall is quite hard, others try to help me too but the rng just sucks 
Are you here @wise merlin sorry but I couldn't beat the stage any other suggestions?
@lunar drum Hey! ^^
Try this out!
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Silvina
Nemora
IF Brutus follows up to kill your Lyca, put Lucius instead of Silvina
@last granite Best of luck friend, You got this
keep on trying, even when it seems impossible there's always a way
12-8. Help please
@pale kettle Feel free to DM me the stage and your hero roster again ^^
@iron kelp Aim to ascending your Shemira to Mythic once you get another Vedan at Elite+, that power spike will be big enough for you to pass the level easily ^^
Regardless though, try this out! :
Shemira
Brutus
Saveas
Estrilda
Lyca
Neither worked
1 more copy of vedan elite and I will make Shem to M. @wise merlin
@lunar drum My formation proposals are pretty narrowed because you've yet to show your full roster, may you please show it so I'll give a better advice? π
Soooo guys im in need of one final help to finish chapter 9 any suggestions.i madd it to 2 left wirh the set up @wise merlin gave me
@reef hawk Swap Tasi with Nemora in positions, charm Ira, if she attacks Vedan, he will truly suffer, from a slow, bleed, and faction disadvantage.
If that doesn't help, place Rosaline instead of Tasi
Ill try it
I will send it later Nicky
@wise merlin it isnt working. It worked pretty good. Charned ira but vedan barely survives. And when he doesnt. Arden uses his ΓΊltimate and almost whipes me out completely
Swap Brutus and Lucius. Put Shemira middle backline, try replacing Tasi with Arden. @jaunty glade
Congrats 
Roll for light or forest? Not gonna lie i would like to have lucius most
@ocean musk I would say use faction scrolls on Wilder, as you have a higher chance of getting things from Trio (Lyca, Tasi, Nemora/Arden) instead of hoping for one Lucius in the pool of Lightbearers.
Then now 13 rolls. Also. Thoughts about new lightbearer? I think she is realy strong. Had on peeks of time camp
Well. Got only ulmus and bunch of ardens
Help me
@opal gulch You got Nem, Bunbun? If not then switch Lyca and Arden and Lucius with Shemira. Test if switching Lucius out with Brutus is any different.
Ok I'll try
can someone help me?
Move Tasi and Arden, try replacing Tasi for Mehira. @wild tree You may be lacking damage. Belinda would be a good addition for you if needed.
These are my top units I use, and the rest are obviously what I have available. I also have 3 slots open in the Resonator just for this occasion. Looking to beat Chapter 10 (currently 10-36) And Progress a bit more overall.
This is my second list (mostly to show what I can progress and all)
@sleek acorn get ur arden in crystal sir, then you can run belinda rowan estrilda lyca and arden maybe
Hmm Arden will do me that well?
My usual line up (mostly for CC) Uses Tasi and Fawkes Along with Rowen, Lucius and Belinda.
@sleek acorn arden's cc is actually godly, he's saved me so many times with his root. but tasi is great as well
@sleek acorn Please send a screenshot of the current lineup you are using against the enemy's lineup.
I'd say that adding Arden to Crystal is good for you since you have no Nemora.
Currently I'd say try
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
Estrilda
Tasi
Lyca is also extremely useful, not sure how she compares to rowan, but her haste is also super good
They do different things yeah, but Lyca is expendable past 3 seconds after Haste buff. Rowan is useful for the duration due to his potions and additional support for energy.
@ashen schooner Let me get the game back up real quick. @clear saddle I was waiting to see if I get another lyca. if I do I might forego bringing tasi to L and shove in lyca to L+ But lyca feels weak? She dies almost instantly everytime I put her in party so I was more leaning towards Tasi. IDK I trust yall more than my own opinion cause, my own opinion isn't working out lol
@sleek acorn you only really need lyca for the haste, she boosts your teams dps like crazy
Really? Whenever I put her in, I feel like I did worse than round than putting someone else in. idky
The haste just makes it faster for them to use abilities.
@sleek acorn i mean, if it destroys the faction bonus, its possible you'll do worse
@ashen schooner my heroes just fail to hold on. need to upgrade first i think
@sleek acorn you could run that, or replace fawkes with arden, i think his cc is better
Arden? Hmmm is he still good as E+?
yes, his big power spike is at 141 though, roots 3 people instead of 2
Getting to 141 is nearly impossible without draws lol
his cc is still better imo, fawkes coffins 1 person whereas arden roots 2
He is barely living to root once lol Would another position work better? or just anywhere in backline works?
@sleek acorn dont put him against khasos, hes gonna melt, swap with tasi
can someone help me? i tried this level many times and i have no chance to beat it
Most likely being one shot because of Silvina. Move gear from Tasi onto Arden and see if that keeps him alive longer. @sleek acorn
@paper wadi gonna need u to post enemy lineup
@sleek acorn also yeah, make sure ur tasi is getting jumped by silv, not arden
@ashen schooner imagine being underlevelled in voyage
@paper wadi Please post a screenshot of the hero lineup and your current lineup. Please also keep in mind you may be underleveled.
ayyyyy my team focused silvina and then niru getting rid of the problems
ok just a moment i quitted the adventure
obliged everyone.. it worked. Time to try and progress further whew
help...
Still stuck here, please help me, 10-28
@regal swallow
maybe try
Tasi
Lucius
Arden
Lyca
Saveas?
or you can swap out arden for a tank and have him frontline instead of lyca
@paper wadi Switch Belinda with Athalia to cancel Eironn pull. Reset a few times and see if that works.
@regal swallow
Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Vedan/Lyca
Belinda
Can also try swapping Arden out for Rosaline.
ok i will try
@ashen schooner no way i think iβm too low for them
on the picture that was the best try
@paper wadi It may be that you have bad relics. Cocoon relic, Fire/Icebringer, Sun/Moonstone. I personally used a lot of Dodge and Damage Reduction relics as well.
