#lineup-help

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pale kettle
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I always use safiya to pass silvina stages. Even tho my safiya is only E+

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well does that silivina also 1 shot shemira

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It doesn't one shot with safiya

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Just have to let safiya get off her first skill and it's done

lament vapor
pale kettle
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just did

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alright well time to be stuck for a month

clear saddle
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@forest hedge good to hear

pale kettle
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@balmy hinge take out shemira and athalia and put in rosa and lucious

balmy hinge
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Thnx

zinc summit
fierce kayak
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@balmy hinge you can read pinned message top right at #classic-questions.

Reset fawkes and make Sav 120, the rest 80 first. Then level tank next.

Do ss full roster together with stage for more accurate advise.

gleaming viper
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khasos is so anoying

lapis fable
zinc summit
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@gleaming viper try
Brutus , Lucuis front
Saveas , belinda , rosaline

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@gleaming viper btw why do u have another copy of saveas at 125 when u hvee one at 160

clear saddle
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@lapis fable show rest of ur heroes?

gleaming viper
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it's for crystal

gleaming viper
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YmsL thanks, but the light team doesn't work either, guest I have to wait couple days then come back

clear saddle
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@lapis fable no arden?

lapis fable
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Nope

clear saddle
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you shud get one

small egret
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Stuck at 9-39

clear saddle
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@small egret show enemy screenshot

small egret
clear saddle
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show the enemy

small egret
smoky delta
clear saddle
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@small egret put your ira bottom back and nara bottom front, need to kill niru first

small egret
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Think the bug with rosaline is making me lose

sly sparrow
silver citrus
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i have 8 faction scrolls, i can’t decide for shit. What faction should i try to pull from and should i change my build? i recently pulled brutus / lyra

bright geyser
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@silver citrus Don't do single pulls always pull 10

silver citrus
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why though? i already have the scrolls didn’t buy them

bright geyser
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You'll get more as you progress, since you're so early on I'd save all scrolls / crystals until you get hard stuck and then ask what best direction you should take

As for pulling 10 at a time it's just better odds

silver citrus
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interesting

unreal storm
dreamy mesa
sleek portal
open turtle
pale kettle
zinc summit
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@pale kettle saveas is not a tank

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@pale kettle honestly u need frontline hereos

pale kettle
sand kindle
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@pale kettle try to swap arden and nemora, and try to charm enemy nemora

unreal storm
hidden garden
limpid quail
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@hidden garden who is silvina jumping at? you have brutus to change for lucius

hidden garden
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On nemora. I tried with brutus, its even worse then

limpid quail
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make tasi have the lowest def, so she gets jumped and can teleport away from it - what stage is it?

waxen dome
hidden garden
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@limpid quail 14-16

limpid quail
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have you tried 4 wilders with lyca/shem frontline?

empty sierra
limpid quail
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@waxen dome level arden and estrilda and put lucius/belinda in the chrystal because of the level cap. You dont know when you will get extra copies for them. arden is a rare hero and estrilda can be boguth in the lab shop

hidden garden
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Daaaamn i won!! Thanks

limpid quail
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@empty sierra definitly play tasi instead of athalia, do manual ultimate and wait until the cocoon ends then ult with tasi for more CC, shemira should be able to take them down in the meantime

sand kindle
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@empty sierra try:

Shem
Brut
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi

waxen dome
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@limpid quail so should i swap lucius and Belinda for Arden and estrilda In my lineup too? what levels should I aim for for each hero in my lineup?

devout idol
limpid quail
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@waxen dome i dont know what you current lineup is, also it depends on the enemy team you are fighting who to put in there

waxen dome
dense badger
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@devout idol I would try:
Bellinda
Thane
Estrilda
Lucy
Rosa (Rowan is better)

unique magnet
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you should be dumping all your levels in savaes not shemira, shemira isnt that great until after lvl 160-180

wise merlin
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@waxen dome Lyca instead of Shemira, and focus all of your future resources on Saveas.

It should be enough to beat ^^

unique magnet
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you basically just want to force savaes to 160 as hard as you can

charred ermine
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Suggestions anyone?

astral marsh
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@charred ermine Arden instead of Estrilda to root the Tasi gang ?

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Fawkes instead of Arden

Make sure to transfer gears and artifacts

warm rain
coarse ember
exotic egret
coarse ember
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@warm rain I recommend trying Brutus Saveas, Belinda estrilda Thane

ocean musk
exotic egret
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@ocean musk none, dont fodder ascended heroes

ocean musk
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25k crit

limpid quail
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@ocean musk youneed saveas at 160, dont level evenly, overlevel your carry instead

ocean musk
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I know. Waiting on dust. I spend all my cash on it in shop just to speed up since its hella slow to gain dust. Miss like 250 from 3k to 121.

limpid quail
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then kill vedan first by putting him bottom backline, you can use brutus in front of him for the roar, even at E+

ocean musk
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Take brutus instead of thoran or kasos?

limpid quail
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you can try thoran and khasos as the other frontliner, shouldnt matter

ocean musk
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Ok. 121 and i should do it. Still isabelle is pain in butt but when i will delete nemora i should be super fine. For now she remains on one hit before agroo swich on grezghul :/

viral timber
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stuck at 11-32, any inputs? already thought of relevelling my brutus, so that i keep him hat 140 and instead use the dust to make my arden 141, but not sure what is better. currently i take too long to kill the golus, but switching sides with brutus + saveas didnt help either, since then their saveas just kills the rest too fast. and putting saveas frontline didnt work either, since lightbearer kinda fucks maulers.

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best case scenario i got so far was ending up with my saveas vs their estrilda + angelo which he then obviously loses :/

unreal storm
viral timber
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Here are the Rest of my heroes + got some elite copies that probably wouldnt help much either

ocean musk
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Honestly i would try nara in your lineup as interruper for enemy saveas

fierce kayak
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@unreal storm backline try
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
So that top dies faster.

Or drop tasi and use
Arden
Khosas
Lyca

Else try afk more for levels

unreal storm
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Well you see, I have tons of xp

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I'm just lacking dust

viral timber
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@ocean musk instead of who? lyca or tasi? and so i put her backline top position, how would you setup the rest?

ocean musk
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I think lyca because tasi is bonus cc and saveas is already your ranged. Nara should pull one in front of her so that can buy you few secs. Saveas on bottom bc you cant burst golus and angelo might be annoying with heals.

fierce kayak
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@unreal storm did you buy daily dust? From shop

ocean musk
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Better try to burst este than golus since he have tons of dmg reduce

unreal storm
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@fierce kayak yeah

fierce kayak
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@unreal storm great.. just just wait a bit.. same to all of us πŸ™‚

unreal storm
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See so close, but apparently I wasted a ton of gold on upgrading gear that I wasn't supposed to, the game literally reccomends you upgrade your gear though smh

ocean musk
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Try to get for him(if you dont have already) eye of dura. Crit saveas is beast

viral timber
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hm no nara is not rly working @ocean musk ^^ saveas still gets 1 auto off b4 the pull, and then afterwards either one or two shots nara (so sometimes she doesnt even get off her second hit). tasi is banishing the estrilda, so she doesnt die either and after that the golus is already in the face of saveas since the other 3 heroes are dead from the saveas

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but i just tried my old setup, got probably the best possible rng or idk what happend and saveas was able to carry cuz arden & tasi lived long enough that time πŸ˜‚

woven scarab
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ANY Idea on how i should change my line up after all of my kids hit lvl160? And mirael isn't usable anymore? I thought athalia was good as a DPS, Belinda magicer, and all of the same formation

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ALSO i liked kaz, but god damn she won't give me any faction bonuses

obsidian island
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Hey guys what’s the best line up for wrizz and soren?

sand kindle
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@obsidian island twins, athalia, baden, shemira, rosa

umbral badger
plush kelp
clear saddle
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@plush kelp try shemira frontline instead of lyca?

plush kelp
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Ok

cerulean cosmos
clear saddle
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does ur hogan and golus not do enough frontline? if you get an arden for cc, maybe they can live longer

indigo jolt
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@plush kelp if frontline Shem didnt wrk.
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden

cerulean cosmos
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Il at 4-36 and feel like the front line is the problem

clear saddle
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@cerulean cosmos ur frontline will survive longer if you can stall the enemy longer and give time for your carries to kill them. at the end of the day, the goal is to just to stall as long as possible until your carry can deal with them

cerulean cosmos
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I wish I had Brutus 😭

clear saddle
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Brutus is only okay at your level, his survivability spikes at 141 though, gets 7 sec of immunity total

exotic egret
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Still pretty damn good and consistent from 60 on

plush kelp
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@indigo jolt ty

real palm
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Does anyone have an idea on how to beat this complete fuckery of a level

clear saddle
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@real palm you got tasi?

real palm
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@clear saddle tuesday yea but their units dont give 2 shits about the sleep. They just keep punching my units

clear saddle
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@real palm if you can kill the golus' and khasos with shem, then have her ult again, you should be able to win

slender blade
indigo jolt
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@real palm I used i believe.
Athalia
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira

viral timber
clear saddle
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@viral timber dont arden frontline, lyca better there?

indigo jolt
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@viral timber Try will need roots to land on estrilda.
Sav/lyca
lyca/Sav
Tasi
Brutus
arden

viral timber
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k ty @indigo jolt will try a bit. and ye had arden frontline since he "tanks" the most out of the 3 wilders due to level / equip πŸ˜‚

fleet kernel
pale kettle
astral marsh
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Arden instead of Lyca, front of tasi and nemora bot to charm arden ennemy ?

loud wharf
fleet kernel
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@loud wharf Saveas is who you wanna focus on. There's NO reason to have more than 5 heroes leveled so reset 6 of those heroes

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Make sure you do NOT use any ascenion tier heroes as ascenion fodder

weak path
loud wharf
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@fleet kernel thanks for your help
what are ascenion tier heroes? πŸ™ˆ
do i get the full material back when i reset heroes?
cause currently i dont really know what heroes are good and if i lvl them and waste materials it would be pretty bad

clear saddle
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@weak path maybe swap brutus and lyca pos?

fleet kernel
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Click on the heroes tab on the bottom right, then click "portraits" and you can see Ascenion tier heroes, Legendary tier, and Common tier. Don't get rid of the Ascended tiers. @loud wharf

indigo jolt
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@weak path Switch arden and sav, positions maybe.

fleet kernel
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And yeah you'll get your materials back in full. @loud wharf

loud wharf
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and on what line up should i focus? is saveas belinda ogi nemora kaz okay?

weak path
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Yeah the best I get is killing khasos and saveas before it's my saveas vs the 3 and the slow along with disarm just wrecks. Tried different placements may just be a need to afk and level

fleet kernel
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For right now just make sure you focus on Saveas. He will carry you through a lot of levels. @loud wharf

weak path
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Morvus and Estrilda left alive just take down my saveas at 160. If I switch to focus on Estrilda their Saveas destroys my whole team O_o

loud wharf
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@fleet kernel but i Need to other Heroes as Well or not?😰

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Level*

fleet kernel
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You definitely have to level other heroes. But Saveas should be priority. Just make sure you only have 5 heroes leveled.

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And make sure Saveas stays about 20 levels ahead of everyone else. I think you're going to hit a level cap on Saveas so make sure you ascend him as soon as you get the chance. @loud wharf

rain zinc
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Any advice on this lineup? Anyone else I should be focusing on leveling up? Now would be the time to make my main 5 I’ll be using while grinding stages

shrewd sundial
whole terrace
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@shrewd sundial you either need pendant/spider silk or two teams to beat it

shrewd sundial
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Pendant? @whole terrace

whole terrace
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The one that lowers hp at start of battle

shrewd sundial
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Kk ty

waxen dome
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@unique magnet @wise merlin thanks for the help earlier this morning

wise merlin
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Any time friend! ^^

waxen dome
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The only follow-up I have is once I replace Shemira with Lyca my team is Lyca, lucius, saveas, arden and Nemora. Should I replace one of them for a front line tank or who should i put on the front line with Lucius?

marsh sentinel
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Newbie player here do you guys think I could make a maulers teamcomp? Or is there anything better I could do ?i use Brutus Saveas tasi nemora lucius. But Lucius dies always fast and supports follow

pale kettle
split flicker
mellow hound
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@split flicker try lyca for tasi and see if the haste boost helps

summer hatch
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@fierce kayak so what should my lineup be now?

fierce kayak
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@summer hatch Shemira Lucius front, lyca Arden nemora tasi (choose 3 out of 4 depending on stage) back.

Nemora middle back to charm fareal. Reset if charm fails.

pale kettle
limber copper
still oar
sly sparrow
still oar
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Your line-up already right. Probably just needs rng or rearrange your gears.
If that doesn't work just replace lyca with tasi

clear saddle
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@sly sparrow if you have tasi, use her instead of nemora

sly sparrow
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actually i used tasi and it worked

clear saddle
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tasi in place of who?

sly sparrow
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nemora... i cant go without haste of lyca, and honestly tasi does more than nem for me

clear saddle
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Yeah, i thought as much, the haste from lyca is actually so crucial

untold maple
clear saddle
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@untold maple probably use your brutus merc instead of ulmus? then maybe run

Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Saveas

maybe?

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Cus rn your ulmus is gonna melt to the maulers

sly sparrow
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omg i think i will be able to get past chap 15 today

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nvm i spoke too soon... one stage after boss and stuck again lol

still oar
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Mono gb with ferael?

sly sparrow
still oar
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Charm him and use his CC against his own mates

sly sparrow
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so i guess nemora is in place now?

still oar
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Yea middle

clear saddle
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replace tasi/arden with nem, experiment and see which 1 works, then put her mid

untold maple
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@clear saddle I'll try giving it a shot with that line up and a different tank; I want to save my merc until I absolutely need it before reset πŸ˜›

clear saddle
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Yeah, you need to kill the saveas bottom first though, so you need to stack your dps

still oar
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Tasi should banish him, so Arden should be the option

sly sparrow
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actually i replaced tasi and it worked...

clear saddle
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nice

sly sparrow
ember bane
pale kettle
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i would try using

still oar
sly sparrow
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god double khasos so cancer

still oar
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Tasi banishes Frontline khasos?

pale kettle
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I would use lucius instead of shemira

sly sparrow
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ye... but ok i got this now i just needed right rng where tasi actually ult

pale kettle
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then change arden with fawkes

sly sparrow
pale kettle
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Pssst...worser isnt a word lol as my dad use to say

sly sparrow
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lol... i know but i think i need arden more on this one than nemora

silent wraith
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indeed worser

sly sparrow
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gad i cant do anything

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and im so close to the end this is frustrating

still oar
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Try rearrange your gears.

sly sparrow
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they already have the best one i believe...

still oar
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Put call on Shem if you haven't. If you use arden

sly sparrow
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i thought call goes on tasi? so she has her sleep on fast

still oar
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Sometimes you need shemira to ult faster and put def art so tasi can survive

sly sparrow
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def art? like drape?

tawny jewel
sly sparrow
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@tawny jewel lol im trying haha... im good

still oar
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Try put eye, grace etc and see which one works for your needs

sly sparrow
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omg it worked lol.... so i have call on shem, drape tasi, eye lyca and grace brutus and i did it... now onto the last boss

tawny jewel
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@sly sparrow did you finally get a mehira?
@still oarcan u help with lineup? :( I have been stuck

sly sparrow
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i wish haha.. game hasnt been nice to me yet my last elites were thane and kelthur... thane is good but i dont like kelthur at all so im sad

still oar
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Let me check my SS first. Chapter 16 right?

tawny jewel
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@still oar yea its 16-36
@sly sparrow yea i had bad luck too :(

sly sparrow
tawny jewel
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@sly sparrow i got my 8th belinda. Well i guess i had 2 to begin with from the rewards early on, but still 6 belindas?? Comeon

sly sparrow
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i mean u can make her A at least haha... i heard she is pretty good at wrizz with rosa

tawny jewel
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@sly sparrow ay look at my boss. At least you got no silvina. But nice your team is shaping out pretty well

sly sparrow
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trying my best, but... this is not looking fine they wreck me like a lot lol

tawny jewel
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@sly sparrow yea shes op but i use shemira as i dont wanna swap gear daily. And rosa raine lucius shem grez is good for wrizz too

sly sparrow
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shem is good yea... thats why i wanna make her to A soon... 3 more copies one from chap 15 one from lab and one lucky pulls i guess

tawny jewel
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@sly sparrow i have the copies :( i just need 8 rare gbs .. use fodder wisely. Even tho i didnt do any mistakes on the gb heroes.. but i guess i got grez to l+ when i could have left him at e+

sly sparrow
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omg this boss is frustrating me... its like sundae with cherry on top

tawny jewel
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@sly sparrow you dont like sundae?

sly sparrow
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that was just as an example... like sundae means its already horrible but that cherry is niru and shem... so yea πŸ˜„

plush kelp
tawny jewel
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@sly sparrow ahahah (triggered)

still oar
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@tawny jewel can't find mine. Maybe try
Try
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi/Arden
Lyca
Arden/tasi
Your lyca probably strong enough to tank kaz while nemora charm estrilda.
Who does tasi banish? Bel?
And silvina jumps to?

tawny jewel
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@plush kelp we are on the same one lol .what worked best for u up until now?

sly sparrow
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omg even my shem dies so fast... can someone help me ahhhhh D:

tawny jewel
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@still oar silvina jumps on arden banish on kaz

violet pecan
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@plush kelp
Tasi (if silvana jumps on her if not replace armor)
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden

sly sparrow
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@still oar can u help me too please

violet pecan
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@sly sparrow you need to kill NIRU first
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca/Tasi

sly sparrow
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ok i will try tysm

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gah niru heals before i manage to kill him... impossible

violet pecan
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he heals bcs you killed one of his teammates first right?

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You need to charm Fareal from Nemora and Kill Niru right after

sly sparrow
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no my heroes die first... and then everyone dies except shem and then shem even

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whatever nothing works... ill leave it

viral timber
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just keep spamming it, sometimes you ll get extra nice rng and you suddenly make it. cant expect to make it in 5-10 tries, sometimes needs 20+

still oar
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Can your shemira and tasi kaz her ult. Since tasi banishes kaz try replace lyca and shemira's positions.
Another option is
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi.
Tasi should be able to at least tank silvina for one or two hits for rng while nemora charm estrilda so she won't break your team with her charge

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@tawny jewel

violet pecan
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@sly sparrow you can win it.. it is easy man... dont give up... just need better RNG

tawny jewel
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@still oar okay i will try thanks

sly sparrow
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i mean i know i can win but when they ult my shem suddenly cant... even when i swapped lyca out for tasi it was same result

violet pecan
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you need Lyca for Arden and Nemora fast root and charm

sly sparrow
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okay i will leave out tasi for now... thank you... but sometimes it happens she charms someone who is rooted lol

still oar
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Yeah. Sometimes it's just rng. But some rng needs 5 days
belinda

violet pecan
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you can even try to replace Lyca and arden position
yea... it is calling RNG... try

still oar
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No worries. The objective is to make ferael to scream at his mates

violet pecan
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fail, try again, fail harder, try again, win

viral timber
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ye dont change your positions after every try aswell, sometimes just spam the same ones 20+ times and it might work XD or you try again at a later point

sly sparrow
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well for me its just fail fail fail so idk

tawny jewel
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@still oar do i retry till tasi jumps to safety?

still oar
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Yeah

tawny jewel
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Kek

viral timber
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ye but you can see the differences no? sometimes you see the opponnent critting a lot and your heroes not at all, so you just know you cant win it, then you see your heroes crit and theirs do aswell, it changes a bit, you might get 1-2 kills, and then you get the lucky round where you all crit and they dont at all and you clap them etc

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not that hard to judge if you had good or bad rng that round, no reason to tilt about it tho :P you dont lose anything if you dont make it, can only win 🀷

sly sparrow
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well i cant win it seems... every turn is same outcome... im tired of seeing them all die again

ember bane
sly sparrow
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im done im leaving the stage.... this is stupid i tried a lot of times and nothing

pale kettle
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it took me 63 tries for one stage

viral timber
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i heard ppl try the higher stages 100-200 times lel

sly sparrow
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but u dont see that every single turn outcome is the same... there is no way it gets better there just isnt

viral timber
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well yeah then you might need more equipment / higher levels, who knows ^^

pale kettle
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RNG though. ^

still oar
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I don't recall what's my arts arrangements @ember bane. But I think my Shem did get the banish. Let me see if I have video

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I do have video hold on

sharp egret
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Any suggestions except waiting for the 121 spike? Lucius gets deleted before he can ult in all of the positions with leg 4* armor

still oar
sharp egret
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(I just removed Arden because he was locking my crystal, plan to get him back when I have the slot)

silent wraith
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@sly sparrow 9 has perfect lineup for that stage

sleek portal
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hahahahahhahaa

junior zinc
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14-16

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With this line up

sleek portal
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it would be good to show the enemy lineup as well

clever scarab
sleek portal
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@clever scarab nemora middle back charm faerel , done

junior zinc
still oar
junior zinc
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Thank you

strong glen
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Stuck on 9-16. With good RNG, Saveas takes out everyone other than Nemora but she charms and heals herself until time runs out. Do I just need to get more levels, as the power difference is too big?

pale kettle
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dk how to get past it since isabelle kinda always deals a lot of damage in it

stray vortex
still oar
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@strong glen
Maybe
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi/Arden
Brutus
Saveas
Try charm nemora so she would charm her mate

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Not yet @stray vortex. You still haven't hit level cap and <161 saveas performs better as carry compared to brutus

stray vortex
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I just only use him situationally would the added health not be worth it?

still oar
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I kinda doubt it really helps that much.
I am not familiar with antandra but 141 brutus is enough for now while saveas can wreck havoc from backline

west kiln
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I feel really stuck on 14-39 I beat the similar line up earlier but I have been here a hot min and I am not sure what to do

stray vortex
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@still oar thx

craggy talon
still oar
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Saveas 141 doubles his attack. Add that to self healing he is madness

modest abyss
still oar
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@craggy talon
Tasi/nemora. Or= nemora/tasi
Brutus. Lyca
Lyca. Shemira
Shemira. Brutus
Arden. Arden

Arden needs to roots Arden and kaz faster while nemora double charm nemora and ogi or just charm ogi.
Tasi probably will banish lyca

pale kettle
craggy talon
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@still oar only issue is Arden is targeted by Silvania and is melted before he can get a root off

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@still oar jk I’m mixing up levels lol

still oar
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@modest abyss reset you E rank hereos and level your e+ to break cap and put the usable hereos on crystal
Probably will paly around with
Nemora
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Tasi
I will try to make saveas as carry if I could while also raising shemira as side project.
You can check pinned message in ##classic-questions .

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I’m mixing up levels
Multi accounts problem
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@pale kettle probably because the hypo mage has better attack rating. Tasi banishes hero with higher ar, no?
Try Arden instead

sly sparrow
pale kettle
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Yes but I don’t know why it would have more than isabella

still oar
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Let's have a lil' adventure
Lyca
Kaz or brutus if no luck
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Same deal try charm that pesky ferael

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The same reason morvus has higher ar.

sly sparrow
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Isnt it bad when nem charms rooted person though?

still oar
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No. As long as ferael scream at his mates

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The charm should last longer

sly sparrow
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Damn... it doesnt work everyone dies anyway... shem doesnt even get to ult with call even

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Nothing works.. i give up

still oar
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Take it easy. Try again tommorow or aftermorrow. Don't get burnt out from rng

knotty chasm
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Am I just gonna have to wait until I can upgrade everyone or is this not my best possible comp?

chilly prism
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Arden over belinda every day of the week. You have one carry already

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Lyca, arden, nemora in the back with hogan and saveas up front

knotty chasm
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Who should I level up after carting Belinda?

chilly prism
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Your tanko

knotty chasm
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Alright thank you

unreal storm
lethal rivet
delicate trout
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@lethal rivet i usually use athalia to counter arden, but lately arden is the only one that i can counter ogifrown

lethal rivet
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finally got it after enough retries shemira

delicate trout
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haha congratz dude

mental kraken
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More or less starting am I making any misteps

severe moon
delicate trout
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@mental kraken you have a nice startup

mental kraken
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Ideally I get lucius to replace hendrick

unreal storm
delicate trout
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@mental kraken use both

mental kraken
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Who would be your backline then?

delicate trout
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@mental kraken for now, belinda saveas arden

mental kraken
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Ty

cold marten
sharp harbor
delicate trout
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@cold marten
tasi
brutus
arden
shemi
athalia

pale kettle
delicate trout
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@sharp harbor swap arden with lyca

cold marten
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I will try that line up and see if it yields any results @delicate trout

delicate trout
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@cold marten if it doesn't work, try to replace arden with lyca, and try to synchronize tasi and shemi ults

cold marten
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I will give those two set ups a try! Thank you. Will let you know if I get anywhere hahaha

unreal storm
delicate trout
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@unreal storm your lyca wasn't strong enough to be a frontliner yet

unreal storm
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@delicate trout so what should I do then?

delicate trout
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@delicate trout do you have any good str items? i mean for using that lucius

cold marten
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Neither set up got me pretty far 😭😭 I am just gonna sit here and hope for the best try those set ups again until I can break through. Just Arden and Nem are killing me cause my heroes don’t attack them and then they just mess with my team and give the enemy back their health

unreal storm
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@delicate trout my Lucius just insta dies because he is only elite

cold marten
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Got closer this time!! Will try again to break through

delicate trout
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@cold marten try to go on, find the timing when the enemy wansn't got enough crit, and you have more crit, you should've win that

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@unreal storm do arden still can roots?

cold marten
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Nemora was the real MVP of that match she saved everyone’s hides just before they died even Lyca survived to do her ult

delicate trout
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@cold marten a perfect timing is win a game haha

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@pale kettle i beat 18-40 easily
tasi
luci
athalia
shemi
lyca

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18-20 is a lot harder haha

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ahhh i just remember, i use 180 cap, wait let me see

nimble dune
scenic yew
river condor
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What should I be doing with this. At an acention roadblock with Brutus and Shemira. Should I level up the E+s I have to what?

still oar
delicate trout
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@pale kettle yup, exactly like @still oar vedan360

still oar
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It's 19 1 or 2

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The earliest SS I have

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Sorry

delicate trout
pale kettle
still oar
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Do you have mehira and ezzizh @pale kettle? Even if only e.

pale kettle
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I don’t have ezzizh, just mehira. I could buy wrizz from challenger store I suppose

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Buy ezzizh* @still oar

brittle maple
still oar
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Decide it for yourself whether buy him is worth it

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Do you have lyca @brittle maple?

brittle maple
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@still oar unfortunately no

still oar
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Let see
Try
Nemora/tasi
Brutus
Khasos
Saveas
Arden
Try root bloodsnarl and khasos and charm either golus or mirael for her shield

pale kettle
still oar
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Stage?

pale kettle
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20 27

still oar
mental trench
still oar
delicate trout
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ok will try, thanks

twin hound
still oar
brittle maple
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@still oar thanks for the help, it took a couple tries but that lineup worked

strange glen
delicate trout
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@strange glen arden is more usefull than serius imo

twin hound
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@still oar that worked like a charm. Are those your personal screenshots or can I access them somewhere?

still oar
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If it faction tower I used kaz/ulmus nemora lyca tasi and Arden up to floor 80

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Mine @twin hound

twin hound
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Do you mind if I DM when I get stuck?

still oar
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Sure @twin hound. But i am at 22 17 rn. So can't really help further than that

pale kettle
still oar
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I mean I don't mind belinda

delicate trout
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@still oar do you have 19-28 sir? my bad

pale kettle
delicate trout
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@pale kettle thanks sir

still oar
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^ lol

untold nacelle
ripe lodge
delicate trout
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@untold nacelle use the twin instead of shield guy

still oar
ashen schooner
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@ripe lodge Try
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Try switching Arden and Shemira too

untold nacelle
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They pretty much get one shot sadly.

ashen schooner
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@untold nacelle Mmm try switching Nemora or Tasi out for Hendrik

ripe lodge
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my brutus dosent have enough stats to do anything

ashen schooner
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He should still be able to stand his ground versus Kaz’s dodge

tacit kayak
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i @still oar i dont have ezizh, any alternatives or should i try to score a merc?

still oar
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@untold nacelle
Twins or tasi
Hendrik/luc/brutus
Rosaline
Hendrik/luc/brutus
Belinda
Belinda with the help of rosaline night be able to double bursts vedan+niru while the others stall and do the defs

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If you can score a merc try do so @tacit kayak. He is there for energy regen buff and hypogean faction bonus

vast coral
frank oracle
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Can anyone offer advice on my lineup

ashen schooner
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@frank oracle I’d invest in Lucius being in frontline over Thane.

frank oracle
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He just gets wrecked whenever I try that though

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Maybe if I get lucky enough to ascend him

foggy radish
delicate trout
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@foggy radish
arden
lyca/brutus
beli
lucius
fawkes

frank oracle
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@delicate trout any tips u can throw me for my lineup?

foggy radish
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@delicate trout okay i will try ty :) but since sav carries me hard i hope there will be enough dmg

still oar
brittle maple
eager jay
steel moat
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@eager jay i'm at the same stage rn but i'd probably run

Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

Nemora will charm other nemora who will in turn charm another enemy

vast coral
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@still oar thanks got wrecked but the Lucius behind lyca is interesting

mystic barn
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The Silvina on 20-26 is ruining my day

still oar
mystic barn
still oar
sharp hornet
steel moat
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Thank you!
@sharp hornet
Here was my setup, but you would use brutus in place of estrilda

sharp hornet
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Hmm I'll keep giving it a try

mystic barn
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You guys grab screens for every level? Smart

unique magnet
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try swapping brutus and tasi, then swap nemora and shemira, try to charm the top estrilda and kill her fast, brutus should be able to kill lyca pretty quick because of faction advantage @sharp hornet

steel moat
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I only do boss stages unless a non boss is outrageously difficult πŸ˜‚

unique magnet
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i just grab screens for stages that I know fellow guild mates are stuck on usually, but they tend to be common wall stages for people

unreal storm
mystic barn
junior solstice
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how important is to build a team with same faction?

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I am new to the game, completed 7 days

pale kettle
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@junior solstice its really important...

sharp hornet
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@unique magnet awesome I'll. Give it a try

delicate trout
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@frank oracle thane is bad for early game, try to use your lucius

mystic barn
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Eh, I've gotten to Ch20 without a faction bonus on my main climbing teams. But it starts to become more relevant for faction towers after Ch15 @junior solstice

junior solstice
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OK, thanks. Does my team look decent? I have 10 scrolls which I can use on faction summon

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I am at 6-28 chapter currently, completed first chapter in Peaks of time

cyan pendant
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it's awfully hard to say, what you have could change pretty dramatically if you were to use all your summons

junior solstice
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ya, I kept changing till I landed on this, as I drew heros

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now I only have 10 scrolls on faction summon left, not sure if I should draw on graveborn

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Ideally, if I get a tank in graveborn, I could change Hogan for it

cyan pendant
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grezhul is available through arena tokens after 9-20, and thoran will be added into lab rewards this patch

sharp hornet
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@unique magnet my team still gets ran through I don't kill a single unit

junior solstice
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I already have Grezhul in line-up, probably helps to upgrade him, but Thoran would be nice for replacement

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I mean replacement for Hogan

lament vapor
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@fierce kayak thanks for 18-35 worked for me πŸ‘πŸ‘

sharp hornet
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@steel moat do you remember the placement?

still oar
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Shemira
Lyca
Arden'
Estrilda
Tasi
from Cordelia's SS @sharp hornet

lament vapor
sharp hornet
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@still oar ty

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My tasi dies right as she gets to her ult each timr

steel moat
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Yes,
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Estrilda (Brutus for you)
Tasi

You can switch Brutus and Lyca's positions if Lyca is going down too quickly for Shemira to survive

still oar
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Did Arden root estrildas?

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He might need to root them

frank oracle
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@delicate trout the thing is that my thane lasts to the end and does hella damage while Lucius dies immediately

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What would u think about putting in legendary tier Isabella instead of thane ?

sharp hornet
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@steel moat I'll give it a try but yeah they both go down quick even brutus

delicate trout
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do you have saveas? @frank oracle

steel moat
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How is your lineup geared? And i think if anything getting one of your L+'s to M to break the 160 level cap will help a a bit

frank oracle
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Unfortunately not

obsidian bridge
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Not really the place for it but anyone have advice on what signature items I should work on?

rare gale
sharp hornet
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@steel moat I just asked some if I should take lyca to M or tasi to L+ and they said tasi......

frank oracle
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Unfortunately not @delicate trout

unique magnet
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id always go lyca first

steel moat
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It's situational, I didn't have A shemira for a long time so i've relied on M lyca to offtank for me, L+ Tasi holds up well even in ch 20

frank oracle
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Think if I just upgrade me team and maybe add Isabella it’ll work? Cuz I’m able to get to 3 left on low hp @delicate trout

sharp hornet
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I'm guessing my pictures for gear didn't post?

unique magnet
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I have a L+ tasi and im on map 22, I got my lyca to 220 A first, and then my nemora to 200 A, and its been fine ive never needed tasi any higher yet shes so RNG dependent

honest storm
steel moat
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It said too many attachments

sharp hornet
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@unique magnet whelp should have asked for a second opinion lol.

indigo jolt
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@obsidian bridge Depends do you mean which to take to + 20 next , or planning on going for a +30?

steel moat
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Having lyca at higher tier is significantly more important, tasi doesn't really need to be mythic or above to be effective

unique magnet
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lol i mean youll want tasi eventually.

tepid current
steel moat
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Ah i had probably around 3/5 of heroes with full mythic gear at that point so that might be a difference, how about switching shemira and lyca's positions in the setup I suggested?

obsidian bridge
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@indigo jolt really both. I have some at like 1 some at 10 and some at 20. I can upgrade any really just not sure where to put resources

steel moat
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@honest storm

Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Tasi

indigo jolt
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@obsidian bridge Assuming you want to concentrate towards campaign progression in the now and future. I would say go Ferael and Lyca. Ferael will become a staple later on, and Lyca is always good, based on what you havent done so far.

hidden stone
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Advice

steel moat
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@tepid current

Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Nemora

Do you have tasi? If not then make sure nemora def. is lower than arden's so that silvina jumps her and not him

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@hidden stone can you send a full hero list? I'm trying to see if you have some wilder cc characters πŸ˜…

tepid current
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I do have tasi yes

steel moat
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Ah in that case i think you should use her instead of nemora since she can teleport away from silvina

honest storm
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@steel moat just try it, will let you know

hidden stone
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@steel moat

tepid current
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Well tasis ability to jump doesn't matter much when she gets oneshot by silvina jump lol

still oar
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Put def art on her

steel moat
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Nemora
Lucius
Arden
Shemira
Lyca

I'm not sure if shemira can frontline at this point but I suppose it's worth a shot @hidden stone you can also try swapping lyca with fawkes if you think it will help

@tepid current are you switching gear over to her?

tepid current
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Shemira can Frontline shes always last to die. Tasi doesn't actually get oneshot but the auto after while she's stunned kills her even when I switch gear and artifact over

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Oh the shemira question wasn't for me lol

steel moat
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Even when silvina doesn't crit, does she ever get to teleport away?

tepid current
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She very rarely gets to tp away but dies in a few seconds anyways

steel moat
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Sometimes she will go behind a far away backline ally so she won't die, although if you are really struggling you could try nemora instead

fleet kernel
tepid current
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Whoever silvina is jumping is dying either way. None of my wilder heroes r strong enough to survive long

steel moat
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@fleet kernel
Tasi

 Shemira

Arden/Lyca
Brutus
Nemora

I would recommend resetting brutus to 200 and using the dust to get shemira to 201

honest storm
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Worked @steel moat thanks

still oar
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@tepid current
If that the case try
Nara
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Can at least Nara ground silvina until tasi is close to ult.
And Arden probably roots grezhul at least

fleet kernel
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Okay wtf. @steel moat that's what I've been using since like chapter 15, (this is 18 now). So....this actually worked but I guess I just needed the RNG to side with me...

still oar
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Pretty much any comp with wilders

steel moat
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Yes, past a certain point beating stages in 1 try isn't really realistic anymore and it all depends on rng

hidden stone
tepid current
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Nara? Who Dat

hidden stone
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Where should I put everyone cause everyone’s dieing quick

warm ginkgo
tepid current
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Oh found nara. I have just an E copy of her not on my crystal tho

steel moat
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Who does fawkes coffin?

hidden stone
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Shemira but he dies too

steel moat
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@warm ginkgo how about this?

Tasi

   Brutus 

Athalia

  Shemira 

Nemora

still oar
hidden stone
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My entire team dies in a minute

steel moat
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@hidden stone what about swapping lucius and shemira's positions and arden and nemora's positions?

hidden stone
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We lived a bit longer but shemira gets very low hp early

warm ginkgo
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@steel moat
Tried it out 6 times. Nemora dies almost instantly every time. Then Shemira dies right after she ults, followed by Athalia and Tasi (mostly at the same time, but Tasi survives slightly longer otherwise), and Brutus goes 1v5 ults, And then dies after his ult

steel moat
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Is there any way you can get shemira over 180? Also who does tasi banish?

warm ginkgo
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No. It would take a long while. (Considering can’t get as much dust from lab anymore).
She banishes Khasos. Fawkes also coffins him.

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Ai Brutus tends to massacre my team when he ults. He’s who kills Athalia and Tasi

steel moat
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Alright, what about swapping athalia for lyca?

warm ginkgo
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@steel moat
Thank you. That was stressful to watch. Every single battle was completely different. It’s completed now

steel moat
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No prob πŸ™‚ yes rng is a huge factor in late game and can turn entire battles around

elder valley
indigo jolt
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@elder valley Drop tasi for arden if you have. Move nemora to middle. Try till you charm fareal.

elder valley
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@indigo jolt I don’t have arden:/

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It’s almost embarrassing

indigo jolt
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Rowan then maybe or Rosalina.

last latch
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did u try using fawke and rowen

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i cleared that stage not too long ago and i think i used fawke/athaia top to cc shemira with lucius/shemira and rosa if i remember correctly

elder valley
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What’s the level on those? @last latch

last latch
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same as urs

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my shemira was only mystic lvl 170 tho but i used a mythic friend fawke

elder valley
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Oh I see

sacred talon
lethal ember
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Switch Shermira and Vedan

sacred talon
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Imma try that

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Complete disaster shemira

still oar
fierce kayak
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@elder valley drop tasi for Arden. Nemora Lyca switch.

Key is nemora charm fareal. Reset if charm fails.

Either you build an Arden now, or borrow from others. Else this issue will cont haunt you later

meager wave
elder valley
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@fierce kayak well shit then, gotta get myself an arden then

woven sedge
strange glen
fierce kayak
mellow hound
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Nothing seems even close to working

still oar
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Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Estrilda/brutus/tank
Tasi
@mellow hound someone did it with that comp.

mellow hound
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Arden gets killed by something even before his tangle. I dont get how he's supposed to survive...

still oar
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Give him better boots and put grace to increases his dodge

mellow hound
still oar
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Sorry wrong SS. Hol up

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To early for me

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@minas i beat 18-40 easily
tasi
luci
athalia
shemi
lyca

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This one is the correct one

mellow hound
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My lucius is e+ and athalia is e

still oar
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You can search in:lineup-help 18 40 for other comps

sudden sparrow
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Use Athalia or Nara to delay Arden's roots and play with RNG

still oar
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I don't have my SS for 18 40 but I did have 19 6 with 200 Shem, 176 and 160 crystal

clear saddle
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@mellow hound lyca frontline with Arden back top, need him to not die to Shem but to still root

mellow hound
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Right....

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Ya that aint happening

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Taking hits stops his rooting animation which means it just doesn't happen and he dies.

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I give up, fuck this level

queen hollow
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help for 19-38

lone shale
sharp hornet
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@lone shale shemira just M or M+?

lone shale
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M+

sharp hornet
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Reset you other heroes and max her level

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Why don't you have arden? @lone shale

lone shale
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Not good luck on getting enough of him.

sharp hornet
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@lone shale really? All those upgrade Wilders and none of them were fed ardens?

lone shale
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Nope, they were fed Ogis and arrow girls.

sharp hornet
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That might be your problem cause you are missing him and lyca for the meta team

brittle maple
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I got enough dust to get Brutus tasi or Arden to 121, what’s my best bet?

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I mean Brutus nemora or Arden, not tasi

cold marten
sudden sparrow
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Y u still using Saveas? Use Shemira in his place u dum dum, try:
Shemira/Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Tasi/Shemira
Nemora/Shemira
@cold marten

sharp hornet
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@brittle maple aredn quicker to 141 the better

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@cold marten also reset your nemora and even your Brutus and get shemira to 200

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@zinc summit decrease everyone and make saevas 160

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@zinc summit why do you have 6 heroes leveled?

cold marten
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I just had him there as one try I was using different combos @sudden sparrow hahaha I don’t use him much anymore but thought to give it a try and @sharp hornet I can’t get Shem to 200 cause she’s only at M so she’s stuck at 180 until I can get a leg+ fodder for her πŸ˜”

zinc summit
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@sharp hornet I already have enough to make saveas 160 I had to reset him to make my crystal 120 I'm just waiting on dust right now

sharp hornet
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@cold marten did you finish the peaks of time for the free one?

zinc summit
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@sharp hornet and its peaks of time

cold marten
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free one? What do you mean?

sharp hornet
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@zinc summit yes but why do you have a 6th hero leveled up and reset them he needs to be 20+ levels above everyone else.

zinc summit
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@sharp hornet I dont have 6 hereos leveled

sharp hornet
zinc summit
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Just lyca,saveas,shem,tasi,arden

cold marten
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I had just started that and I haven’t been able to get far cause I kept dying

sharp hornet
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@cold marten how I beat it with lesser heroes than you?

ivory drum
brittle maple
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@sharp hornet will he help me progress in the interim? Or is there a better choice for progression

ivory drum
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Wait, that's wrong. Hang on

cold marten
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That’s cause it sets based off the heroes you currently have so mine is higher level and I haven’t tried it in a while so I will probably get farther now

ivory drum
sharp hornet
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@cold marten give it a try make sure you get Mythic equipment for shem too.

@brittle maple once 141 yes as he entangle 3 opponents. None of the others will matter before 141 anyways

zinc summit
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@ivory drum show your full roster

ivory drum
cold marten
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I got the Shem!! @sharp hornet but I still need to wait for a leg+ fodder to get her to M+

sharp hornet
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@cold marten nice congrats what about the one from lab?

cold marten
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I have two Shem e+ now I was lucky to pull her a few times and got her through the event they had

sharp hornet
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@cold marten maybe get some faction scrolls for a gb day

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@cold marten I just have 1 shem currently so it sucks. I'll have another from lab in a week or so need 10k more points. Hopefully I pull a few soon

hidden stone
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Shit bro I’m stuck on the same stage

steel moat
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@lapis fable
Lyca

 Brutus

Arden
Saveas
Tasi

You'll have to put arden in the crystal though

lapis fable
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Ok I'll try that

steel moat
obsidian pewter
jaunty glade
lapis fable
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@steel moat thanks still get my butt kicked any other suggestions

brittle summit
steel moat
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@obsidian pewter

Tasi (switch for arden if you have him)
Lucius/Brutus
Nemora (charm ferael)
Shemira
Lyca

brittle summit
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@steel moat did you stop using Arden around chapter 20?

steel moat
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I haven't used him for a while but technically he's still viable

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@lapis fable what's the problem with that setup? Is it that the frontline goes down too quickly?

brittle summit
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I see. I'll try the setup out at least and see how it goes. Who should Nemora be charming?

lapis fable
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Yeah

steel moat
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Brutus, although you could switch her to bottom back so she charms isabella

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@lapis fable can you reset belinda and push saveas to lvl 160? Belinda is better late game or so I've heard

sleek portal
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arden is still usable in 21.

cold marten
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Went from 15-16 to 15-33 in twenty minutes I know I am gonna lose all my luck soon

sharp hornet
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@steel moat that's for your help needed some more Mythic gear but got through it with your lineup and some rng help lol

steel moat
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Oh nice! Mythic gear can be a lifesaver sometimes πŸ˜…

sharp hornet
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@steel moat I feel like arden to tie up that backline for you

steel moat
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I'll try it with him instead of nemora sometime

ivory drum
sharp hornet
steel moat
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@ivory drum

Fawkes (manual ult to cancel brutus's immunity)
Estrilda
Mirael
Hogan
Athalia

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@sharp hornet

Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

sharp hornet
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@steel moat keeps coming down to Brutus killing everyone when immune

steel moat
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Do you have fawkes?

ivory drum
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@steel moat thanks. I'll give it a shot

sharp hornet
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@steel moat nope finally rnged it

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Though very next level is double Brutus again, this time with nemora......

steel moat
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Charm nemora and she will charm one other enemy

ivory drum
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@steel moat took me a few tries but, I finally beat it. Thanks a lot

steel moat
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Np glad to help!

hidden stone
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13-4 kicks my ass

umbral badger
clear saddle
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@umbral badger take out your lucius and put your shem frontline, then put lyca behind her, tasi top. You want your shem and lyca to kill the niru first if possible

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Actually, if your lucius can survive longer than brutus, then you can go ahead and use him instead, but main goal im sure you know, charm ferael, have him fear his own team then tasi ult and shem ult. basically pray to rng

umbral badger
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@clear saddle Trying. Niru keeps topping back up to and finishing at 100% health, maybe because I don't have the copies of Shem for Ascended yet. I'll keep at it!

clear saddle
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@umbral badger Im pretty sure you can make it past ch19 with those ascensions, how close r u to A shem?

umbral badger
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@clear saddle Buying 3rd of 4 copies needed from lab store when it resets tomorrow IIRC. Need only one more fodder E+ to Ascend Estrilda, then just dust to bring my crystal to L181.

clear saddle
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@umbral badger idk my shem was A but still 200 when i passed 19, but the ascension does make a big difference, what artifacts are you running?

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I ran Blade on shem, drape on brutus, grace on lyca, call on tasi and eye on arden btw

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aight i gotta go, class starting πŸ‘€

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Best of luck

umbral badger
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@clear saddle Thanks! Will try your artifact dist

jaunty glade
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@steel moat that worked thanks I rerolled the shemira to relevel the saveas

sharp hornet
novel oar
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Any advice for who to prioritise?

sharp hornet
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@novel oar arden over 141 not Belinda is first

novel oar
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Should I raise nemora to mystic with the other wildlings ? Then I can up Arden

sharp hornet
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Who would you use to raise nermoa?

steel moat
novel oar
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Ogi and ira

sharp hornet
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So
Shemira
Brustus
Lyca
Tadi
Nemora?

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@steel moat thanks for the setup I think I'm finally just underpowered. Your heroes are a good 15 levels ahead of a few of mine

steel moat
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The order is from positions 1-5 so it would be

Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi

You might be able to do it because this is a very rng dependent stage

plush kelp
steel moat
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Looks like a good setup to me, tasi is getting attacked by silvina and estrilda is getting rooted right?

plush kelp
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Yes

steel moat
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I think you might need to put some levels into your other heroes and try to get them to 160, but otherwise that setup should work well

sharp hornet
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@steel moat yeah I'm thinking that. Who am I trying to charm niru?

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@sharp hornet fucking arden is binding everyone

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@steel moat I copied myself lol. Arden is killing my team

golden spade
plucky flint
golden spade
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@plucky flint look up l4mp vids on yt.

plucky flint
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@golden spade thx

golden spade
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I’m stuck on the much more annoying variation of that map..

clear saddle
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@pale kettle does ur arden root? if not, swap brutus and lyca position?

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@plucky flint I ran

Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
arden

it took over 100 tries i think.

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@pale kettle try

Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Shem
Tasi

maybe? or swap nemo and arden position idk

loud scroll
clear saddle
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Arden top then isntead of nemo

silent wraith
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18-40 is the first video I made on YT merek_dio

clear saddle
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idk, i dont have my phone with me now, cant check lineup, can only guess rn

sharp hornet
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@pale kettle same here lol

silent wraith
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idk ch18 and ch19 was not much trouble, shouldnt take long

clear saddle
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Man, pre-nerf 14 was the biggest hell ever

silent wraith
sharp hornet
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@silent wraith might be that A shemi. I have higher level everything else and still can't clear it

clear saddle
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they made it easier i think

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@pale kettle if you're still on later, i can check if i've got an ss for that stage. Right now im just assuming. Its a lot easier to adjust your formation if you can see whats going on

sharp hornet
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The arden fucks everything up honestly

clear saddle
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Yeah, you need your lyca to run into the ogi and have your arden root first, make sure u have eye on him

sharp hornet
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I didn't think arden was in the meta for this level

clear saddle
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Try and see, it might be the dealbreaker, @sharp hornet arden is meta from like ch10-22

plucky flint
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@golden spade thanks for the tip. That yt lineup worked after about 10 min of spamming it.

golden spade
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@plucky flint those vids helped me for a while up til prob around 40 or so.

sharp hornet
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@clear saddle yeah but everyone I've seen complete 18-40. Is tasi, lyca, shem and brutus

clear saddle
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Idk how they're gonna beat the arden without either nemora or arden, you either need really good boots on nemo, or just use arden instead

Depends how long ago the screenshot was, they nerfed nemora's charm a while back so older videos might not work

golden spade
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But that’s cause I don’t have a good Estrilda. Yours is ascended so you can prob follow him for a while with that.

sharp hornet
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And nemora sorry

plucky flint
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I beat 18-40 with 4 wilders. It didn’t seem close to working until it did. Nothing else seemed close to working either.

silent wraith
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you have to reset until you find the win conditions, so you reset until nemo charms ogi to allow shem to survive

golden spade
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It’s annoying how that works. I’ll be stuck on a level then I’ll finish it with 4 heroes still alive.

clear saddle
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@silent wraith did u clear ch21 with 220 shem?

sharp hornet
clear saddle
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@sharp hornet what was ur end setup?

sharp hornet
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Shemira, lyca, nemora, Brutus, yasi I took Mythic gear from tasi as she has 3 pieces and boots from shemira and put it on nemora

golden spade
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@clear saddle I’m trying my damnedest to clear 21 with 220 shem but it’s annoying af..

clear saddle
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@golden spade im just waiting till 240 shem tbh, just cba

golden spade
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I’m 25k dust away, which with champs of Esperia will take like a week but I’m impatient af.

sharp hornet
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So I have enough tokens to buy grezhul. He is currently at L and can make L+ as I just got another one. However athalia is at E+ should I save for her? I don't have a second copy to make her L yet

clear saddle
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@pale kettle for nem to charm i had 4 star non faction M boots

sharp hornet
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@pale kettle same

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Like I said took a few tries and some weren't even close

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Yeah my shem is all 4* gear though none of it faction specific

clear saddle
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@sharp hornet ...

sharp hornet
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@clear saddle I know probably a mistake.....

silent wraith
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@sharp hornet where r u stuck

sharp hornet
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@silent wraith not anymore yet lol. Just cleared 18-40 with everyone's help. @pale kettle is still stuck on it though

silent wraith
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nice grats

clear saddle
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@silent wraith what was ur crystal for 21

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@pale kettle you need your nem to charm the arden, if that doesnt happen, reset

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Charm the arden and he'll root his own team. If you run arden instead of nem/brutus then you want the ogi to be charmed

silent wraith
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charming arden so he roots ogi can work

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@clear saddle crystal?

clear saddle
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crystal level etc

silent wraith
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u mean resonating?
cmon bruh

clear saddle
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YEAH BRUH, WHAT ELSE?

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cmonbruh

silent wraith
clear saddle
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bruh bruh bruh

nimble dune
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He’s fucking my team up

clear saddle
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@nimble dune nemora, charm him so he fears his own team

nimble dune
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Thanks

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I guess I just have to wait till I’m strong enough. Even at level 160 she doesn’t have enough time to charm anyone.

clear saddle
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@nimble dune you need maybe arden to root him first then your nemo can charm

nimble dune
clear saddle
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@nimble dune you have lyca?

nimble dune
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Yes

clear saddle
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Firstly, reset some heroes and get your shem to 180, then you can run lucius/estrilda, shem, lyca nemora and arden

nimble dune
clear saddle
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@nimble dune reset belinda, saveas to 140, then max ur shemira

white hearth
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Can someone help me and tell me why I can’t beat 7-30 with this team? Am i missing something?

raw trail
clear saddle
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@white hearth use lyca instead of raine?

lethal rivet
white hearth
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But is losing faction bonus worth that? Also raine is elite+

clear saddle
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@lethal rivet swap shem and arden position, get good boots on him

lethal rivet
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even when he gets his cc off everyone gets pretty much oneshot besides shem

strange glen
white hearth
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@clear saddle whats the correct positioning for the comp now - put in lyca like you suggested

clear saddle
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looks good

silent wraith
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@pale kettle if u watch my vid, nemo charms arden right after charming ogi πŸ˜ƒ

white hearth
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Got steamrolled same thing. Not sure how to progress in the game now. My entire comp depends on Lucius using his ult and hd takes FOREVER each time. Any way to make him ult faster?

nimble dune
silent wraith
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@pale kettle Story of my game

nimble dune
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It worked, thanks

rain zinc
visual quiver
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first of all, why tf did you level 2 khasos? and about the lineup. hard to answer without knowing all your heroes

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that's not mean in any way

sharp hornet
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@lethal rivet if you have 4* Mythic boots put them on nemora and switch with arden. Also swap lyca and shemira. Got it done for me after about 6 tries. Just need some rng

rain zinc
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I have two leveled because there both elite +. I can take them past level 100 so my resonating crystal can bring up Lucius and Nemora and Tasi

void dock
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@rain zinc
Mid game meta heroes usually consist of
Shem, brutus, and 3 wilder..
Your hero already good enough bruh

visual quiver
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I never said the opposite. it was just a question

rain zinc
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And yes I’m very new

visual quiver
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still, we need to see your full hero roster to tell you if there is maybe a better lineup

rain zinc
void dock
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@rain zinc its a good start... and dont forget not to feed your ascended heroes bruh...

rain zinc
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So 4 different skills would just mean the best heroes in the game right. I know I can manually check how many skills they have, but what actually determines the amount of skills a hero has? Their color rating?

visual quiver
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not necessarily the best but you can level legendary heroes only to 160. in your hero roster there is a portraits tab. there you can see all ascended heroes listed. that determines how many skills. "ascended" is a rarity

lilac musk
turbid silo
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Hey all! I’m stuck on 10-36 and Floor 134. Just wondering how y’all suggest putting these guys together and hope rng is in my favor or keep afk for more rolls

visual quiver
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please post the enemy lineup of 10-36

mild wing
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@lilac musk I like brutus with lyca behind on niru stages, he needs to die first.

lilac musk
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I can't kill him

turbid silo
inner sparrow
lavish plank
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Been using khasos/kaz front, saveas/nemora/lyca back since I started a few days ago, starting to struggle around 6-20. I'm considering changing things up, either trying to fit Arden in there, or to boot khasos/kaz for baden/vedan. Any advice? See the hero screenshot below:

ionic jackal
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@loud vessel I would try to use lyca gorvus and tasi, with Belinda that high it should be enough for dps, just need more supports, one more up to you but if lucius can ult the just use him

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@lavish plank I think you can just replace nemora with arden

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When he has two roots or more

wanton girder
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What's the best overall setup here? I have Mythic Int gear on Belinda, should i drop Saveas and level up Belinda?

lavish plank
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@ionic jackal huh, that hadn't occurred to me at all, I feel like I'm getting a lot of use out of nemora, especially in lab. mind explaining your thoughts behind that?

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I feel like the weakest link in my lineup is Kaz, she dies really qiuckly at lv81, so that's what I figured I'd want to replace if anything

fresh vortex
mild wing
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29 levels should be doable... but will take a lot of attempts . I like putting lyca on athalia with grace and dodge

ionic jackal
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Lab is different from pve of course, you need sustain so nemora is good, but in pve sometimes her heals doesn't do very much and her biggest value is her charm, while with Arden 2/3 roots is better cc then nemora. Well Kaz died fast but bcs it's a mauler chapter, also you don't have a better Frontline. Wilder is too good to use and you need to sacrifice formation bonus if you want to use someone else but I don't recommend that in the early chapters

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@lavish plank

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Or if saveas Ascension and level is high enough you can put him out front and just use nemora lyca and Arden, or just put lyca front for her haste and let her die

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Also you can try to experiment using lightbearer formations, it can works with mauler chapter, fawkes is great to use

keen bison
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I’m level 68 and still stuck on 8-40. I can make one legendary out of each faction presently. Should I do that instead of hoarding my E+?

lavish plank
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hmm... so maybe something like this?
lab: front khasos/kaz, back nemora/saveas/lyca (unchanged from what I'm already using)
story: front khasos/lyca, back nemora/saveas/arden (booted kaz for arden)

mild wing
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@keen bison @keen bison Take a look at the pinned mnessage in #classic-questions about ascending to L and L+ its a helpful read

ionic jackal
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@keen bison read the pin messages in #classic-questions , it's good not to waste fodders, if you need to leg quickly then just leg non Ascended heroes such as saveas or Arden so they can be leg+ easily and become fodders much later

keen bison
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Thanks

ionic jackal
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@lavish plank yeah, it looks good, remember to prioritize upping saveas since he's your carry with that formation

toxic iris
mild wing
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@toxic iris if you can get more copies ferael gonna be your best friend in GB faction campaign and pvp. I would use the lab store with thoran being added to build him. Hes very usefull in gb tower and will be in late campaign as well

toxic iris
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@mild wing thanks! I was debating on thoran, I've fed so many copies of him to speed up progress, but I'm glad to see he's useful

mild wing
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Having his sig at least unlocked makes him viable and you really need him for tower 160+

cloud nexusBOT
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vast coral
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@lofty depot swap Brutus and Shemira around. Try having another graveborn instead of daemon spawn woman.

lofty depot
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@vast coral Rip there's server maintenance now, I'll try it after that!

pale kettle
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@lofty depot I’d try triple DPS the enemy graveborn.

Shumira, Lyca, and swap out the graveborn you’re using in the middle for someone else

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β€’Tasi imo
β€’Brutus
β€’Different graveborn
β€’Shumira
β€’Lyca

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Try it a couple of times and it should work. Reset if the gnome roots your shumira and Lyca before killing the enemy graveborn

lament vapor
lofty depot
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I'll give it a try, thank you! @pale kettle @lament vapor

lofty depot
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@lament vapor @pale kettle @vast coral Nope they kill everyone and root my Shem and then kill her

lament vapor
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The only thing I had on you was 161 crystal... How close are you? You can probably get it without though just need some good rng

lofty depot
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@lament vapor Not very close I have like no fodder, only Ascended tier heroes, which is why I need to finish this stage for the 18 faction scrolls so I can summon more Wilders haha

main sand
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How do I know if I can defeat wrizz in lab?

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Wow I defeated hard mode for the first time

lofty depot
lament vapor
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Nice

tepid current
cinder crag
lofty depot
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@tepid current Is that in lab?

tepid current
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No just for guild boss. I'm not sure what the best lineup to do the most dps is. I normally use shemira nemora and 3lb to buff shemira

prime crown
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@tepid current why dont you ascend tasi to L+?

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rosaline is great for guild hunts abtw

wise merlin
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@cinder crag Hello there πŸ™‚

I believe that if you'll replace your Arden with Nemora and charm enemy Arden, both Ulmus's will be stubbed and maybe even the other Arden, since enemy does not include a Lyca, you have the haste advantage.

Give it several shots! RNG will be your guide.

Best of luck~ belindakiss

cinder crag
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Hi , thanks for the help gona try drunksi

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One problem is that shem's DoT might not be enough to kill ulmus and warek :(

untold maple
north pelican
vestal island
proven rock
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afk more and make your L+ to 160

wise merlin
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@north pelican Hey there! smug_dolly

Put Brutus up against Ogi, as a first, the faction advantage would do you wonders. ^^

If that doesn't help, then maybe a worth-while sacrifice to level Shemira to 181 will help better than Ferael, as he's still not at his peak level, nor Ascension tier yet

north pelican
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Thanks my friend. Stick with the wilders?

wise merlin
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@pale kettle

Put your formation like so :

Belinda
Lucius
Mehira
Brutus
Tasi

pale kettle
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Thanks

wise merlin
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@north pelican I'm not a huge fan of Arden, I'd swap him with Nemora since she's more useful overall

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But it's your call, if you believe he will do better ^^

north pelican
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@wise merlin I was thinking the same. Honestly , I wanna fodder him to make my nemora mythic but people are saying that Arden is useful til ch 20

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@wise merlin how would my formation look like though

wise merlin
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@vestal island Hey there friend ^^

Give this a shot!

Rosaline
Brutus
Tasi
Arden
Belinda

I don't trust this formation all that much because of the lack of tanks and the fact that your Shemira is not at peak, if that doesn't work, I'm afraid you'll need further AFK time!

vestal island
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No worries juz managed to clearπŸ˜‚

flint karma
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@lunar drum What enemy hero(es) is/are giving you trouble with that part of the campaign?

last granite
pale kettle
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@wise merlin the formation you gave me was good but Lucius is so weak

wise merlin
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@north pelican Arden is useful but is not a necessity.

I use Kaz instead of Arden and a Nemora & Lyca & Tasi backline, I' passed chapters 17-19 all by myself and at 20-32 because of that.

Arden is useful and all, yes, but there's always a better bet. Also, you can always get another Arden back on its Ascension tier with enough fodder.

pale kettle
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I need a friend that had legendary Lucius or something

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Did you transfer the equipment? Do you have Dura's Grace? If so, hand it to him!

wise merlin
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@last granite Swap the positions of Lyca and Nemora, make sure Shemira is charmed, and put Tasi in Lyca's updated position, so Nemora won't try to charm Silvina instead.

Best of luck ^^

pale kettle
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@wise merlin Yes and I gave Belinda dura's call and Brutus dura's eye

last granite
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@wise merlin okay will try, thanks!

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Give call to Tasi

pale kettle
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@wise merlin ok I'll give it a try thanks

warm rain
wise merlin
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@reef hawk Hello there friend :D

How about you give this a small try? :

Instead of Rosaline, put Tasi, and change your formation to look like this ;

Lyca
Lucius
Nemora (charm Isabella if able to)
Saveas
Tasi

reef hawk
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Ill try ir @wise merlin

wise merlin
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Please know -- None of your posts are being ignored!! It takes time to view and come up with a valid formation for your troubles!! Patience shall be your virtue belindakiss

flint karma
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@reef hawk Consider using Rowan in place of brutus. Slot Sav on the frontline and have Rowan in the #4 position (mid-back.) Rowan's potions really help the main carry stay alive, and his ult will increase Sav's dmg rating by 40%!

wise merlin
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@warm rain I'd swap the Arden with Lyca, and place Silvina to deny Nemora's charm,

I'd also consider to remove her from Crystal and put someone else there, because you'll end up forcing your level cap for Crystal to be stuck at 120 instead of 140 once you'll fit 5 L tier heroes.

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@foggy radish Hey there friend ^^ have you passed the level yet?

If not, would you like to DM me?

lunar drum
reef hawk
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@wise merlin thanks it worked took 3 tries but it worked ! Let me take a look who rowan is @flint karma

last granite
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@wise merlin I tried your lineup. It's a little bit counter-productive since my nemora can charm enemy shemira but enemy shemira is either banished by tasi/ disabled by my shemira so she doesnt attack enemy team

lunar drum
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Anyone got tips to help me out

north pelican
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@wise merlin nothing ain’t working for me 😦 I may have to afk

warm rain
north pelican
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Niru is just fking me up

wise merlin
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@reef hawk Glad to hear it worked! Best of luck further on! ❀

@warm rain You're welcome friend!! Have fun~ πŸ’•

@north pelican Don't worry, I'm sure that it won't take long, either way, keep playing with the formation! I'm sure you'll figure something out!

@last granite Ah Shemira is being banished? Then maybe charm another DPS versatile hero in the enemy team, mayhaps Isabella? Or Angelo?

lunar drum
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Nicky can you help me?

wise merlin
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Of course, in a bit ^^

last granite
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@wise merlin okay thank you I'll try that. This wall is quite hard, others try to help me too but the rng just sucks ulricry

pale kettle
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Are you here @wise merlin sorry but I couldn't beat the stage any other suggestions?

wise merlin
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@lunar drum Hey! ^^

Try this out!

Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Silvina
Nemora

IF Brutus follows up to kill your Lyca, put Lucius instead of Silvina

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@last granite Best of luck friend, You got this shemira keep on trying, even when it seems impossible there's always a way

iron kelp
wise merlin
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@pale kettle Feel free to DM me the stage and your hero roster again ^^

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@iron kelp Aim to ascending your Shemira to Mythic once you get another Vedan at Elite+, that power spike will be big enough for you to pass the level easily ^^

Regardless though, try this out! :

Shemira
Brutus
Saveas
Estrilda
Lyca

lunar drum
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Neither worked

iron kelp
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1 more copy of vedan elite and I will make Shem to M. @wise merlin

wise merlin
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@lunar drum My formation proposals are pretty narrowed because you've yet to show your full roster, may you please show it so I'll give a better advice? 😊

reef hawk
wise merlin
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@reef hawk Swap Tasi with Nemora in positions, charm Ira, if she attacks Vedan, he will truly suffer, from a slow, bleed, and faction disadvantage.

If that doesn't help, place Rosaline instead of Tasi

reef hawk
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Ill try it

lunar drum
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I will send it later Nicky

reef hawk
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@wise merlin it isnt working. It worked pretty good. Charned ira but vedan barely survives. And when he doesnt. Arden uses his ΓΊltimate and almost whipes me out completely

wise merlin
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@reef hawk With both formationsM

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?*

jaunty glade
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Hi any help 10-12 thanks

ashen schooner
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Swap Brutus and Lucius. Put Shemira middle backline, try replacing Tasi with Arden. @jaunty glade

jaunty glade
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Thanks will try that

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Awesome got it 2nd retry thanks @ashen schooner

ashen schooner
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Congrats belindakiss

ocean musk
ashen schooner
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@ocean musk I would say use faction scrolls on Wilder, as you have a higher chance of getting things from Trio (Lyca, Tasi, Nemora/Arden) instead of hoping for one Lucius in the pool of Lightbearers.

ocean musk
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Then now 13 rolls. Also. Thoughts about new lightbearer? I think she is realy strong. Had on peeks of time camp

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Well. Got only ulmus and bunch of ardens

opal gulch
ashen schooner
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@opal gulch You got Nem, Bunbun? If not then switch Lyca and Arden and Lucius with Shemira. Test if switching Lucius out with Brutus is any different.

opal gulch
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Ok I'll try

wild tree
ashen schooner
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Move Tasi and Arden, try replacing Tasi for Mehira. @wild tree You may be lacking damage. Belinda would be a good addition for you if needed.

sleek acorn
clear saddle
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@sleek acorn get ur arden in crystal sir, then you can run belinda rowan estrilda lyca and arden maybe

sleek acorn
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Hmm Arden will do me that well?

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My usual line up (mostly for CC) Uses Tasi and Fawkes Along with Rowen, Lucius and Belinda.

clear saddle
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@sleek acorn arden's cc is actually godly, he's saved me so many times with his root. but tasi is great as well

ashen schooner
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@sleek acorn Please send a screenshot of the current lineup you are using against the enemy's lineup.
I'd say that adding Arden to Crystal is good for you since you have no Nemora.
Currently I'd say try
Rowan
Lucius
Belinda
Estrilda
Tasi

clear saddle
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Lyca is also extremely useful, not sure how she compares to rowan, but her haste is also super good

ashen schooner
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They do different things yeah, but Lyca is expendable past 3 seconds after Haste buff. Rowan is useful for the duration due to his potions and additional support for energy.

sleek acorn
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@ashen schooner Let me get the game back up real quick. @clear saddle I was waiting to see if I get another lyca. if I do I might forego bringing tasi to L and shove in lyca to L+ But lyca feels weak? She dies almost instantly everytime I put her in party so I was more leaning towards Tasi. IDK I trust yall more than my own opinion cause, my own opinion isn't working out lol

clear saddle
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@sleek acorn you only really need lyca for the haste, she boosts your teams dps like crazy

sleek acorn
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Really? Whenever I put her in, I feel like I did worse than round than putting someone else in. idky

ashen schooner
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The haste just makes it faster for them to use abilities.

clear saddle
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@sleek acorn i mean, if it destroys the faction bonus, its possible you'll do worse

sleek acorn
wild tree
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@ashen schooner my heroes just fail to hold on. need to upgrade first i think

clear saddle
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@sleek acorn you could run that, or replace fawkes with arden, i think his cc is better

sleek acorn
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Arden? Hmmm is he still good as E+?

clear saddle
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yes, his big power spike is at 141 though, roots 3 people instead of 2

sleek acorn
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Getting to 141 is nearly impossible without draws lol

clear saddle
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his cc is still better imo, fawkes coffins 1 person whereas arden roots 2

sleek acorn
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He is barely living to root once lol Would another position work better? or just anywhere in backline works?

clear saddle
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@sleek acorn dont put him against khasos, hes gonna melt, swap with tasi

paper wadi
ashen schooner
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Most likely being one shot because of Silvina. Move gear from Tasi onto Arden and see if that keeps him alive longer. @sleek acorn

clear saddle
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@paper wadi gonna need u to post enemy lineup

@sleek acorn also yeah, make sure ur tasi is getting jumped by silv, not arden

@ashen schooner imagine being underlevelled in voyage

ashen schooner
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@paper wadi Please post a screenshot of the hero lineup and your current lineup. Please also keep in mind you may be underleveled.

sleek acorn
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ayyyyy my team focused silvina and then niru getting rid of the problems

paper wadi
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ok just a moment i quitted the adventure

sleek acorn
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obliged everyone.. it worked. Time to try and progress further whew

paper wadi
regal swallow
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@regal swallow
maybe try

Tasi
Lucius
Arden
Lyca
Saveas?
or you can swap out arden for a tank and have him frontline instead of lyca

ashen schooner
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@paper wadi Switch Belinda with Athalia to cancel Eironn pull. Reset a few times and see if that works.
@regal swallow
Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Vedan/Lyca
Belinda
Can also try swapping Arden out for Rosaline.

paper wadi
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ok i will try

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@ashen schooner no way i think iβ€˜m too low for them
on the picture that was the best try

ashen schooner
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@paper wadi It may be that you have bad relics. Cocoon relic, Fire/Icebringer, Sun/Moonstone. I personally used a lot of Dodge and Damage Reduction relics as well.