Also the energy after ult stuff probably isn’t super great in retrospect if I was going for him
#lineup-help
wide breach
Cleared the rest fine though. Probs just hold off on it until I can buff up Saveas as my carry again?
mild wing
Yeah you want all single target longevity stuff so fire bringer icebringer poison are best then sun/moon, +attack% + hardmode stats
Kaz with her special poison relic is good
heroes that are normally good like tasi you dont wanna run cause they are bad vs him
cold marten
I can’t break through! Like none of them would die. It’s so annoying the fact that my 180 M+ Brutus with his signature move at 18 loses against the lower level M+ Brutus
I’m just gonna give up on trying to get this dang chest cause I don’t think I will ever be able to get through the damn stage 😦
onyx blaze
Tips?
ashen schooner
@onyx blaze I'd personally probably use
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
and reset until Saveas is charmed. Probably switch around Shemira and Brutus in front.
unkempt pier
wut about sweet arden?
ashen schooner
I mean Arden can work too in some cases. If I were to use Arden there, probably would choose the bottom backline.
unkempt pier
well i geuss tasi's ult makes up for arden
indigo jolt
@onyx blaze Can also run with arden and tasi switched, but different rng required.
unkempt pier
@onyx blaze you should probally just get lucious and tasi to 180 so shem can get to 220
@onyx blaze also try having shem tank silvina's dmg and have no mages
onyx blaze
@unkempt pier will do that thank u
unkempt pier
well you havnt started the battle yet so 😅
real palm
Any ideas? If i get lucky enough for everyone to survive, the nemora just heals the enemy team and eventually their ults kill my back line
Also I cant move arden from the top. Any other back line unit cant stop shemira from just draining my lucious of all his hp
zinc summit
Shemira atm is my main carry I want to build a solid team around here ? Any ideas on who ?
digital knoll
unkempt pier
@real palm nemora should be able to charm shem which would stop her and i think stopping estrilda and nemora are a little more important for arden. also i think all you need is some lvl's for shem
fierce kayak
@digital knoll post with full roster too together with stage like Corny above will be great. Thanks.
digital knoll
Like that
real palm
@unkempt pier nope, shem IMMEDIATELY hit lucious for the drain and even with charm she doesnt stop until the attack ends
unkempt pier
wow rly? i didnt think even with lyca's haste she would still hit lucious. do you have a brutus even if its just E use it in place of lucious
well make sure its somewhat leveled up too >_>
i still use a E+ brutus as my tank even at 20-36
vale kraken
Need some help
unkempt pier
no wonder raine is your goddess >_>
real palm
Yep, only shem can stop her @unkempt pier . The thimg is lucious doesnt die until like 50 seconds into the tound
unkempt pier
oh i thought he died like instantly ;-; hmm i dont got any other idea's since i use different CC than you sry that i couldnt help
actualy i got one more idea
try putting lucious in backline in lyca's spot and put brutus in lucious spot
if lucious ult's you should be good right?
or does the shield not even matter
real palm
Nah shield only matters the first like 20-30 seconds of the fight. Once nemora heals her team. Shem ults and my team quickly turns into nothing but a shem
unkempt pier
so which enemy is the one that kinda kills ur whole team
real palm
Nemora and shem. Nemora keeps shem alive but if I target nemora, shem still mauls my team. If I target shem, nemora heals in time
unkempt pier
wut a combo
real palm
Estrilda usually dies pretty quickly, but if I dont stall her, she murders my backrow and stuns shem
unkempt pier
k last idea and its a stupid one :3 try swapping tasi for eirron
vale kraken
Charm estrilda so she gives ur team the energy+dmg buff
real palm
Who?
digital knoll
unkempt pier
use nemora to charm estrilda
real palm
Raine thats what ive been trying, but shem still murders my team in the end and nemora hard saves their asses
vale kraken
Welp u need gears
unkempt pier
or shem to lvl 200
_>
real palm
The literal second lucious dies, so does my entire backrow all at once
@vale kraken raine all my units got mythics they arent maxed yet tho
digital knoll
any advise for me/
real palm
vale kraken
U got shem'd
real palm
Cursed image
unkempt pier
ya you just need some lvl's
real palm
Bruh if I had mpre fodder this would be a cake walk
unkempt pier
i mena ur shem is lvl 185 which means ur already started on lvl 200 >_>
real palm
I can get my lucious from M to ascended rn but i dont wan a waste estrilda and tru
vale kraken
Waste em
unkempt pier
idk how good estrilda is my friest got pretty far with a estrilda carry but i fed mine
real palm
Estrilda did me ok early on
Shes my most useless L+ rn, she dies almost immediately with gear and cant really do any dmg
unkempt pier
then feed her >_>
i have forsaken the rule to not feed accended tier hero's many times :3 i have no regrets
vale kraken
The fact that LB keeps getting better tanks tho
unkempt pier
tru they added that old dude with no weapon and just a captain america shield
real palm
Lmao. Yeah even in the LB tower, she isnt a tank shes just a 3 second meatshield then lucious just takes everything like a champ
unkempt pier
lol estilda isnt a tank she is a attacker you have to use her wisely
real palm
They added a lightbearer wall character lol
vale kraken
She's got support niches,but peeps dont really want that. We want a tank to tank good
unkempt pier
her charge attack when used right can do like 1m dmg
vale kraken
She tries to do a lot of things, that's why she isnt as tanky as other tanks
real palm
BRUH i almost won but my lucious was a fuckin nonce he attacked 3 times and then shielded before ulting when his ult was full. That lead to my backrow all dieing to just the shem!
vale kraken
She got knockbacks, decent damage, support skills and cc immune frames. But not enough bulk
vale kraken
Mannn, i wish i got ascended eironn
unkempt pier
ikr just got him and i LOVE him
vale kraken
2 eironns and 2 L+ away from that
unkempt pier
real palm
I got shemd again. Yeah im gonna waste the L+ estrilda. I am not gonna use her ever again and I want that level 181 godly lucious
unkempt pier
@vale kraken good luck he is the man when it comes to CC
real palm
What unit is eirron
unkempt pier
unit?
like clan he is a wilder and he is a speed type hero
and for the CC he can freeze, slow down, and funnel up to 3 hero's to himself
real palm
Ooh damn thats good
unkempt pier
thats why he is backline middle he can isolate everyone to just him and he has a split second stun and he pulls off a multi stage attack that deals high dmg
fresh lichen
Need some tips, 17-35
unkempt pier
@fresh lichen only thing i would do to that lineup is move nemora down to lyca's place
or that >.>
clear saddle
@fresh lichen arden instead of nemora, lyca in front, shem behind. Just worried your shem is gonna melt to kaz and lyca. have your own lyca tank some of that and hope your arden can root the lyca kaz and estrilda, then you should be good
fresh lichen
ahh shit, thanks you two
agile root
Just looking for tips... Belinda and fawkes are reson stoned no gear... the 5 I use are all geared with mostly elite and all enhanced... what can I do to get some more dmg and ease through ch6
clear saddle
@agile root im sure if you post your heroes and enemy comp, we can help better
agile root
Here
clear saddle
@agile root your whole hero list pls?
fierce kayak
real palm
@unkempt pier getting lucious to ascended did the trick, my units dont take any damage I maules their time once the shield got off
agile root
brittle maple
@upper wraith I’ll give it a shot
upper wraith
🙂
brittle maple
Doesn’t work, tasi and Arden get deleted instantly lol
pale kettle
get a shemira problem fixed
brittle maple
@pale kettle I need 1 more copy to make a M Shem
pale kettle
brutus infront of Saveas Shemira next to brutus
upper wraith
that might work
pale kettle
you need lyca to make wilder trio work
brittle maple
Who would I take out between tasi Arden and nemora
@pale kettle unfortunately only have an E lyca
brittle maple
I lied, I don’t even have a lyca 😦
brittle maple
No, only 110
pale kettle
hm you need him 141 to
mild wing
141 is 3 roots, he gets way better
try to get him there he needs to be L+ to break 140 cap
brittle maple
I know but I’m way off from that, I don’t even have saveas at 140
mild wing
@brittle maple Honestly your just underleveld, some AFK time and itll be doable your team looks good
brittle maple
Yea I’m working on 140 sav and then everyone else to 120
brittle maple
Can saveas still carry if I get stuck at 140 with him?
mild wing
he wont get stuck long, it shouldknt be too long toi make another copy for L+
Worse case just lvl brutus instead, not ideal but do that then swap when u ascend saveas]
brittle maple
Ah
wild cipher
anyone know how to beat floor 80 of the brutal citadel
stray linden
Halp me
wild tree
should i?
pale kettle
whats the best team i can make
mossy loom
Best team comp I could make
sinful forge
Any suggestions?
Currently doing
Fawkes
Brutus
Shem
Estrilada
Belinda
mild wing
@wild tree Yes @pale kettle Take a look in the pin at #classic-questions you are spreading too thing and rushing Ls, but for now Id overlevel Saveas with hogan frontline and lyca nemora arden backline. @sinful forge You generally want your shemira to be the overlevel high ascended carry, try to bring her up to M and overlevel her it will make a drastic difference
sinful forge
Ya trying to do that. Still pretty new so I haven't pulled too many of her yet. Planning to get another of her from lab store
mild wing
@sinful forge Def focus her in lab and try to build fodder for her, she will be your carry for a very long time if you can
If you can overlevel her I would put her frontline, Id consider putting arden in somewhere, his 141 root 3 enemies is incredibly good cc
sinful forge
Have an elite of her waiting around for another. Hopefully next few days can get her a bit higher
strange glen
uwu
sinful forge
And overlevel you mean just get higher level than anyone right?
mild wing
Yeah cap them first before leveling others keep em 20-40 ahead
sinful forge
Ok. Will work on that. Thanks
mild wing
@strange glen Id try to mercenary a higher ascension warek and put him in for Skreg there, he will make short work of ezhiz
sullen surge
Any help appreciated please
mild wing
@sullen surge Honestly think you just need to get the saveas up to 140 and should be np, id prob run the L+ hogan over the E lucius
sullen surge
Cheers matey
frank moss
Stuck 👍 19-6
mild wing
Put nemora across from arden you need to charm him and use his roots
silver citrus
i got a lot of options, should i integrate brutus?
wild tree
@mild wing thanks. done.
pale kettle
wild tree
when will hogan become useless?
silver citrus
^? edit: shit. should i replace w e brutus
frozen whale
Around lvl 100 @wild tree
wild tree
i can legend belinda. but i have hgan morvus and mirael as food
upper wraith
@wild tree nah mate dont do it
wild tree
alright. btw, im in the wrong sec. please excuse me
upper wraith
excuse u
raw trail
Any advice for this stage?
Id been using athalia to bring out the highest damage dealers so far and get rid of them fast but im a bit stumped here (the stage is 10-28)
frank moss
@mild wing tried, Nem can't charm before first root, or is that just based on luck?
sand kindle
@frank moss dude its common lvl. Go:
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Roll till u win
unreal storm
Could use some help
clear saddle
@unreal storm can your saveas frontline instead of brutus/lucius? if so, you can take out belinda and one of your tanks for lyca and tasi, her haste is super good and tasi's CC is broken
unreal storm
I'll try that because Lucius just gets insta killed now
fresh notch
Hey guys any tips for 16-20?
clear saddle
@unreal storm replace your lucius then.
@fresh notch is it possible to have your tasi get jumped by silvina? if so, put her bottom behind the brutus. Put your arden middle and lyca top. you want to kill the niru before he powers up
fresh notch
I’ll move some equips around and try that thanks I’ll give it a shot
unreal storm
@clear saddle got it thanks
clear saddle
nice
unreal storm
@clear saddle I'm already stuck again lol, thatythic Saveas is rediculously annoying.
clear saddle
@unreal storm think you need to run your saveas bottom with lyca as off tank. you need to kill that saveas quickly too
strange glen
hi me again
clear saddle
@strange glen i think i used shem brutus rosaline fawkes and rowan to clear that, you just need shem to go nutty with ults. but i dont see all of those heroes for you
sand kindle
@strange glen tasi <-> lyca. Tasi -> arden. Or as Tuesday says
strange glen
no arden. had one but he got bugged so i used him to bump nemora up
sand kindle
not even blue one?
clear saddle
A blue one should do fine, will have slower casting speed tho iirc
sand kindle
rosa + rine + shema is an option too. ult spamm probably should work
raw trail
Can i get some help with this stage? Its 10-28
clear saddle
@raw trail put your lyca in crystal, then take out your belinda and athalia and use arden and lyca instead. you will want to find new tanks though, they arent great right now
raw trail
@clear saddle i dont have much luck with tanks i think, but ill follow your advice with lyca
sand kindle
@raw trail try
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora (charm saveas)
Lyca
Arden/tasi
clear saddle
?
sand kindle
It means try arden or try tasi, and take a look what will work better
clear saddle
ohh yeah you can try either, they're both good cc
raw trail
Ok ill give it a shot, thanks
sand kindle
@raw trail tell how it goes, cos i think there some better lineup for this stage
raw trail
Took a few tries but that lineup pulled it off, thanks @sand kindle
Did the other lineups involve other character combinations? Curious incase i could try using it later when im stuck
visual quiver
Any ideas? Tried lyca instead of arden and nemora too but didn‘t work
sand kindle
@raw trail nah, its always meta for such stages.
DD: Shemira/Saveas
Tank: Lucius/Brutus/other u have
3-4 wilder team:
Lyca
Nemora
Arden
tasi
Just rotate them and try to understand their game mechanics. with such lineup u can take up to ch 21
clear saddle
@visual quiver i dont think you can run tasi frontline, the brutus will eat your saveas alive
sand kindle
@visual quiver u need lyca for saveas. always take her to battle. as for lineup u can try:
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Nemora (here jumps silva)
visual quiver
that doesn't work. I tried every formation with those heroes. as soon as isabella gets her ult she 1 shots sav and most of the time 2 to 3 enemy heroes survive
sand kindle
Can u record a video and send me in pm?
visual quiver
with your formation? yeah
sand kindle
@visual quiver hmm. if u place ur saveas front bottom did he kill golus in 3-4 hits?
visual quiver
no. the only thing that could kill that golus in 3-4 hits is a level 200 sav with full mythic gear. and that doesn't exist
golus in campaign is far stronger than any brutus imo
sleek portal
put lyca in, take tasi out, brutus face brutus, saveas front line, back line nemora lyca arden top to bottom, not sure how fast your arden dies to silvinia though
visual quiver
that only makes it worse. nemora dies in 2 hits without a crit from silvina. she doesn't even charm anyone. and I just get destroyed without tasi ult. my brutus even dies before the enemy golus
sleek portal
well then you have to play around and make sure silvinia attacks your arden then. otherwise just try again once everyone's 141 and above. gl.
visual quiver
I'm asking because I know for sure that 141 won't help. even if brutus survives a few seconds longer because my second frontliner dies sooner than brutus already and the backline just gets destroyed after that
sleek portal
errr. okay then.
clear saddle
@visual quiver what chapter is that
visual quiver
12-36
clear saddle
Oh, i dropped saveas for shem already at that point, so don't really have that much experience with how he runs near the end of his span
visual quiver
I won't be using shem for the next 32 days
clear saddle
Ah okay, how many guild coins do you have right now?
visual quiver
72k. the problem aren't the coins. the problem is that I need 32 days to get 2 shemira copies for L+
clear saddle
32 days is still a very long time though. not sure if it worth saving for shem or just buying some for saveas
visual quiver
yes, exactly.
sleek portal
just wanna point out brutus level141 is the most op brutus till ultra late game. but oh well.
clear saddle
Pretty sure saveas falls off super hard unless he gets full mythic gear around chapter 12. he just stopped doing damage for me
visual quiver
eh, yes? that's why I pointed out brutus level 141. because of the extra invisibility seconds. but I also said that that won't help. also my brutus is only E
calm tendon
How do I pass this? The enemy is way harder than the number shown?
End stage of event
sleek portal
this is the problem, you're so certain that it's not going to help when people who passed the stage already told you the 7s immunity instead of 4s immunity is the strongest brutus ever going to be.
visual quiver
why do I even talk with you. I even explained to you why it won't help. read or don't give advice
sleek portal
ok. 🙂
sand kindle
@visual quiver try
Estrilda
brutus
belinda
Lyca/lucius
Saveas
dont forget to move gears & arts
and record videos ->pm ^^
pale kettle
Any suggestion on how to beat chap 20-26 without mercenaries?
sleek portal
@pale kettle if your tasi doesnt die put her in place os lucius, then swap nemora with lucius so nemora has a chance to charm isabella
pale kettle
gonna try with that then1 thanks!
pale lion
Could someone tell me what heroes i should level and also maybe formation please
pale kettle
Nope, my Tasi dies at first strike
sleek portal
with or without the crit from silvinia? try putting dura drape?(the one that adds def i forgot the name) i
pale kettle
with crit she dies, gonna try adding dura's drape!
sleek portal
another way you could do it is arden lycan tasi backline frontline brutus and shemira all top to btm, then put call on tasi blade on shemira
pale kettle
with dura's drape, silvina goes straight to nemora... 😒
sleek portal
general advice i give to people in chapter 20 is check out youtube from Ayuh Le and Vitaly ...... guy. they helped me finish chapter 20 with ease and 180-1 220shemira within 1 week
pale kettle
gonna check it out too then! thanks! i'm going to try with the first formation for a bit, maybe swapping artifacts first
and seeing if i have better equip for nemora and tasi
sand kindle
@pale kettle try this formation
clear saddle
@sleek portal yeah, that guy is an absolute g, his tutorials are great. But 220 shem is the basline for completing ch20
pale kettle
even if my isabella and ferael aren't that high?
sand kindle
@pale kettle yup they are just for factions bonus
rose ember
is there any key toons for king's tower 237 (the one with 2 ulmus in front and 3 nemoras in back)? i just can't dent that lvl
pale kettle
also, Tuesday, my Shem is already 220
and ok! gonna try with the faction bonus too!
also any advices for which artifact is better on whom for this stage?
sand kindle
@rose ember I used shem with sword, also nemora & arden backline in different corners
clear saddle
@pale kettle honestly the dealbreaker for me was 200 brutus, he also had 5* mauler weapon and mauler hat
rose ember
my shem has sword (210 3*) but those stupid trees just heal everyone to full just when it gets close
astral marsh
200 brutus make me go to ~ 20-16 to 20-36 straight xD (and i think good wilder's rng)
pale kettle
yeah but i'm really unlucky with mauler faction XD
sand kindle
@pale kettle as for artifacts: I dont remember but most likely: shem - horn, brutus - sword, fawkes crit, rest is doesnt matter
pale kettle
@sand kindle for brutus you mean dura's blade or dura's grace? they're both sword
clear saddle
@astral marsh 200 brutus can push you all the way to 21 if you havent already
astral marsh
@clear saddle have 220 shem 200 brutus and 180 crystal. I plan to go straight to chap 21 with that :p
clear saddle
yeah, you can
glass moat
hello there, just got perfect fodder from elite summon and summon scroll to boost saveas to l+, should i do it, and overlevel him instead of shemira? i am 4k lab coins away from shemira l+ also. Also, if i add saveas to the team what should my formation look like, i current ly run shemira brutus, tasi arden nemora
astral marsh
@glass moat what is your lvl ? 161+ or less ?
glass moat
level 71 like my account but in terms of levelling below
pale kettle
nope, still can't pass stage 20-26. i think my brutus is still to underlevel, but sadly enough, i am unlucky and still can't upgrade it :c
rose ember
don't fret. after passing 20-26 today in the train to work i'm now stuck ad 20-27 😄
pale kettle
lmao
astral marsh
@pale kettle I pass it with Shemira(blade) Brutus (eye) Tasi (Call) Nemora (challice) Lyca(grace) (1 to 5). Just need good rng :/
pale kettle
only my shemira is lvl 220 tho.. the rest of these heroes are just level 180... is it possible? (and my lucius lvl 200)
astral marsh
Yeap i did it with 220 and 180 crystal 🙂
rose ember
i have 210 shemira, brutus 200 and rest 180 and i passed 20-26
glass moat
@astral marsh you think i should go with saveas? i would need a new comp however
clear saddle
200 brutus is great, sometimes he can solo the ulmus
pale kettle
gonna try it then! >///< thanks hymas! hope it works!
astral marsh
Yeap go with Saveas @glass moat
sleek portal
@pale kettle 100% possible to finish chapter 20 with your lineup, just need to keep retrying and dura's placement
clear saddle
@glass moat shemira only gets great at 161, a significant power spike. If you can get her to that level, then use her instead of saveas
glass moat
hmm, if i go with saveas, what should my comp be
also if shemira isnt great until 161, should i reset her and put it all on saveas
clear saddle
With saveas, depends if you can run him frontline or not. If he can frontline safely, you can run brutus saveas lyca tasi and arden/nemora
glass moat
okay, ig ill try that
winter arrow
he can leg+ his saveas so might work
glass moat
oh snap
clear saddle
bruh
glass moat
lmao ig i have to 120 them, i think i have enough for that but wont be able to level saveas much
clear saddle
L+ sav is good anyway
glass moat
unreal storm
Man I'm stuck
clear saddle
@unreal storm you need your dps against the vedan, kill him first
violet pecan
@unreal storm
Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
glass moat
pale kettle
YES OH MY GOD I DID ITTTTT
clear saddle
congrats
astral marsh
Gz !
unreal storm
@violet pecan you beautiful human being, worked first try
glass moat
thanks for the help lol, appreciste it
sleek portal
@pale kettle wait till 20-36 till 20-40 PepeLaugh
astral marsh
I'm at 20-36, i'm crying
sand kindle
@pale kettle gz gz what formation?
pale kettle
went with
tasi (call)
brutus (eye)
nemora (chalice)
shemira (blade
lyca (grace)
ember token
I just got to chapter 20, is it really that bad? @astral marsh
astral marsh
I dont know what to do xD pray hard for good rng ? XD
rose ember
similar level also no clue what i can do
ember token
This setup is what’s been carrying me to 20-12 rn. Maybe it can help
unreal storm
Stuck again already lol
violet pecan
@unreal storm
Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
pale kettle
This is the formation I used to clear stage 20-27 if it can be of help!
arden (grace)
brutus (blade)
mehira (chalice)
shem (call)
athalia (eye)
unreal storm
@violet pecan don't think it's gonna work with that positioning again unfortunately
fierce kayak
@unreal storm Try the lineup flip upside down from Nescafe.
Tasi (silv bait)
Brutus
Arden/lyca
Sav
Lyca/arden
tropic kernel
Hi there... That are my heroes. I received Athaila. Should I replace some1 with her? My lineup are the first 5 heroes
visual quiver
no matter what your question is going to be. you leveled more than 5 heroes. reset the rest
visual quiver
neither. level saveas and use him as your carry instead of belinda
also, read the pinned messages in #classic-questions
supple stratus
do you have saveas? use him as carry instead of shemira at that point in the game.
sand kindle
@sage totem yea ur shemira will burn them
worthy island
Any suggestions?
sand kindle
@sage totem make ur team 81, and shemira as high as u can
sage totem
My team is 81
fleet kernel
@sage totem no they aren't. They're above 81. You gotta reset them and STOP at 81. Anything left over goes to shemira
sleek portal
@sage totem you can do it, you're not severely underleveled too. good luck.
i PERSONALLY do not recommend running shemira and belinda together, but you do you 🙂
fleet kernel
If you can keep them alive it's great but it's hard to do that. I feel ya. The only time I put them together is against wrizz.
rigid rivet
astral marsh
Yup. I tried so many things but can't do it. Ulmus is so incredible. I dont know xD
Think i need to wait to re build an Arden 🤔
umbral badger
Help needed: for some reason this enemy comp melts my team in under 30 seconds. Above lineup is my attempt to cc them with Wilders.
lofty depot
18-36
cloud nexusBOT
modest ridge
maybe try swap mehira for arden then swap positions of lyca and arden so you dont get rooted idk tho
last olive
@astral marsh
lofty depot
Nope I still get fucked @Kinoe#3309
sleek portal
@astral marsh feels like i said this to you once, i might be saying it to another person, but check out Ayuh Le and Vitaly sjdnzxkmcn guy on youtube for clearing entire chapter 20.
@umbral badger maybe you already tried this, but try swapping shemira and brutus, give call/blade to shemira, if blade to shemira give call to nemora for faster charm. must charm faerel and arden root 3 bla bla bla
@lofty depot have you tried using nemora and arden instead of tasi and mehira? i'd try to use nemora charm nemora charm brutus and arden root 3, try giving call to either shemira/nemora
last olive
Need hzlp for 20-40 x)
lofty depot
Just cleared it!
sleek portal
@last olive youtube the stage, otherwise i'd suggest swapping tasi out for nemora, nemora swap position with lyca, then nemora must charm vurk so golus dies fast, call on shemira
last olive
@sleek portal okay thabkq
vale kraken
Help or sumthin'
astral marsh
@last olive @sleek portal I did it with friend's arden. Like youtube guy 🙂 Vs ulumus, Tasi seems little useless :/ I'm in trouble now because i dont have arden (except blue one xD) So i'll continue to try to pass other stages and wait for a good arden to go to chap 21 :p
last olive
Blue arden is same like gold
sleek portal
@astral marsh you just need arden in crystal, from 20-40-20-60 its all about swapping around arden/nemora/tasi and dura call's placement. pretty sure you can finish it by today/tomorrow
astral marsh
Yeap. I think too. Just need good rng 🙂 It obvious i can do it !
last olive
@sleek portal do u think i clear ch 20 today?
sleek portal
@last olive yes, cause i was the same as you, finished 20-40 to 20-60 in 1 hour.
@last olive youtube is your best friend i'd say to get the fastest response and lineup to play around enemy. i kept repeating this but yeah it's really about dura call's placement and swapping arden/tasi/nemora in and out
naive crown
Stuck, what should I do
pale kettle
I really need help this Issabella keeps rekting me
last olive
@sleek portaldo u use farael ?
sleek portal
@last olive i used meta to finish chapter 20, cant use faerel cause he's at E+ for me and i dont have other options cause im F2p.
naive crown
🔫
vast plover
@naive crown try the athalia instead of the shemira
last olive
@sleek portal i can ascend white nemora or farael mythic+ that why i ask
sleek portal
faerel is very strong and will replace shemira late game, for now you only need 220 shemira to clear chapter 20, you want to finish 20 fast so afk reward gives u m+ stones
last olive
@sleek portal im at work i try to pass it after work 😍
ancient cargo
I am currently stuck on 22-32 and could use some help dealing with high level Silvina. In lower level stages I would just move her target to the front line and have my non-caster DPS kill her but that no longer works. She usually kills her target before my guys even get to her.
I realize that my guys are considerably lower level than her and her teammates (they are 256 and my guys are all 220 with Shimira being 240) but I was wondering if you guys had any input that might help out.
Here is a pic of the stage and of my roster.
sand kindle
@ancient cargo try:
Nemora
brutus
Fawkes
Shem
Rowan
Also u can run meta.
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brut
Arden
ancient cargo
do people still run Arden at this level? I know that his abilities were powerful enough to use on some stages, even with his level cap, but I figured that when the enemies were close to 100 levels higher than him that his usefulness would be a thing of the past.
umbral badger
@sleek portal Belated thank you for the suggestions! I have not tried all of them and have taken a screenshot for later after I shower and have breakfast ^^
sand kindle
@ancient cargo u need him for silvina. Also u can place tasi instead, if silva will jump on her
sleek portal
tagging the wrong person 
ancient cargo
@sand kindle thanks. I guess I need to level one more Wilder to Elite+ than I had thought.
Looks like Wilders join Lightbringers for factions that I just need like a thousand more fodder heroes .
sand kindle
@ancient cargo theres a trick. You can run tasi, just remove chest gear so she will be less armour than nemora and silva will jump on her
modest sail
Can’t figure out how to get past stage 80 for the Mauler tower
sleek portal
@modest sail hire a high ascended khasos with signature item
sand kindle
@modest sail or numisu. he is good for this level as well
modest sail
I’ll give both a try. Thanks guys
tacit kayak
ideas? 21-59, my shem gets oneshot by both brutus and warek ults
pale kettle
Back again for 20-33 😂
sand kindle
@tacit kayak ask @sleek portal he just finished chap 21 with 220 shem hehe
ancient cargo
I am stuck in the Contorted Realm. I have the primary relics that people recommend (Firebringer, Icebringer, Poisonous Embrace, and Kaz's relic) and have gotten past some of the 310 fights but I am now stuck. Shemira is 240 and the rest are 220.
While I have Kaz's relic, she is only Elite+ and gets destroyed before doing anything.
sand kindle
@pale kettle there few ways to beat this stage. I'll write them in order 1-5 of ur heroes.
- Shemira brutus nemora lyca tasi
- Brutus shemira tasi lyca nemo
- Shem brut tasi athtalia nemora
weary socket
Help please, been stuck forever
pale kettle
Gonna try with your lineups @sand kindle ! 🤗
hasty dawn
need help please! :)
sand kindle
@hasty dawn swap lyca & nemora and charm ferael
clear saddle
If that doesn’t work can try swap Arden for tasi
sand kindle
@ancient cargo u need tasi with full ult for sure. as for lineup try:
Tasi
Grez
Brut
Shem
Nemora
hasty dawn
@sand kindle tysm!! cleared chap 15!!
clear saddle
Nvm, grats lol
sand kindle
@hasty dawn gz haha
clear saddle
The drops? 16-12...
hasty dawn
what's the strat for getting mythic equips again I forgot
clear saddle
@hasty dawn check ur pm if u haven’t already
pale kettle
@sand kindle Made it with
Nemora
Shem
Athalia
Brutus
Tasi
Many thankiessss
clear saddle
@pale kettle nice, what stage u on now?
sand kindle
@pale kettle gg👍
honest barn
Stuck on the final stage on ch 21
pale kettle
@clear saddle I’m at 20-36!
clear saddle
Niiice
pale kettle
To think that I was stuck on 20-26 this morning 😆
clear saddle
20-26 was quite tough for me too tbh
pale kettle
Its nice to go through 10 stages in one day ahahahah
clear saddle
If you can clear 20-44 or something I think, you can probably finish the whole chapter
pale kettle
I’m gonna try for sure 😆
On a side note.. is it still worth it keeping Arden?
Wilder faction tower floor is 65
clear saddle
@pale kettle I used R+ Arden for all of ch20
sand kindle
@honest barn I think u should make ur shemira 240. she will exterminate them
pale kettle
I’ll keep him around for a chapter more then!
sage totem
Sooooo, I changed my lineup but just realised I don’t have any faction bonus, Is it a big deal?
clear saddle
Still using R+ Arden
pale kettle
I really want to get rid of that merman tbh. He’s useless. But my eironn isn’t that good yet, so I have to keep merman for faction tower :c
sand kindle
@pale kettle u can feed arden to lyca and use the blue one.
pale kettle
But if I manage to bring Lyca to myth+ I actually can evolve her more to ascended tier, since I already ha e 2 elite+ Lucas ready
clear saddle
My wilders are quite beefed, but on floor 80 rn, made it with everyone 180 I think
pale kettle
Envy that tasi! I am so unlucky with her. Got her only once in the whole game. The other one was bought from the recent voyage mission 😆
clear saddle
All my fac scrolls got me this lel
weak path
Any suggestions on 11-28?
clear saddle
A Lucius OMG, use him pls
sand remnant
AN ASCENDED ONE still....
daring matrix
Yep I'm wondering is that ascended Lucius?!!
weak path
Seem to get worse results with lucius.
clear saddle
Think u need Arden middle to root khasos sav
Or maybe u can use Lucius instead of tasi or something
daring matrix
Try
Lyca
Saveas
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
astral marsh
@pale kettle i'm at 20-37 ! Have fun and good luck for your progression !
worthy island
Need some help 18-35
lofty depot
@worthy island Try Athalia instead of Rowan
next basin
Any ideas on how to get pass that? 21-9
fleet kernel
Any suggestions for hero placement or something? I cannot even kill 1 of them. Am I using the wrong Maulers?
inland kite
shrewd depot
Sigh.. any suggestions? I just got Shemira to L after her only being E for a while so I got all excited thinking she’d carry and still just gets nuked on this level 😂
I usually use Rowan in her place.
viral timber
ye and why is your saveas not 141? but afaik he should still be your main carry at those stages / if you cant get her to 161
shrewd depot
@viral timber I don’t have the dust yet. I just got him to 140 but I’m like 3500/6000
sand kindle
@fleet kernel try:
Numis
Vurk
Khasos
Brut
Warek
shrewd depot
@viral timber should I reset Shemira for now until I could get her to 161
viral timber
hmm i not that much further than you ^^ but from what i ve heard / got tips its not rly worth using her b4 and that you are supposedly better off just maxing your saveas and building a team around him ye ^^ but dunno if that is true with your lineup and champs aswell
but yeah maybe try to get him as high as possible / leave the others on 120 / 121 and use rowan instead of her. or you lose the stages like that aswell? i dont think i m that much further than you, but i also got a brutus and am currently stuck at 11-23, here is how my team looks:
limpid quail
@agile root you want your carry 20-40 lvls ahead of your other heroes. i would also reset kaz and use saveas instead
agile root
Explain
humble turret
Floor 249 someone?
limpid quail
@agile root You want as much damage in the shortest time possible to kill/injure as much as possible before your other heroes go down therefore you overlevel the carry so he can actually do that
agile root
And whose my carry
I don’t understand that part.. cause then I just get stuck with 4 heroes that aren’t near as strong to finish the fight
limpid quail
the others are not there to finish the fight, they only support your carry long enough to win the fight. carry is saveas in my suggestion resetting kaz
clear saddle
@agile root your carry is your main source of damage, typical ones for early game could be vedan saveas or mirael. you typically overlevel your carry since they're dishing out the main damage
agile root
Well I have all 3 of those so whose the most effective
clear saddle
saveas most effective, reset kaz and dump all your levels into him. like, everything
agile root
But shouldn’t he be 20-40 levels higher like fultsch said
clear saddle
Yeah, as much as you can
agile root
So I should just reset all heroes
clear saddle
nonono, dont reset all, only kaz. then you can afk, but prioritise putting all your levels into him
agile root
Then only level saveas
zinc summit
@agile root get your savaes to lvl 100
serene sky
Is this the only way to beat this mauler tower level? Have tried dozens of times, with just brutus and tons more times with a full lineup
agile root
So more like this
clear saddle
yes @agile root then start using all your levels on him
@serene sky i personally used a merc warek, he tears through them, but maybe your level 200 one can do fine
astral marsh
@serene sky Warek merc for me too
inland kite
clear saddle
@inland kite nemora middle, to charm ferael
limpid quail
@inland kite nemora mid to charm feraeal
that timing xD
clear saddle
@inland kite maybe also use tasi instead of fawkes? i prefer her cc over his
inland kite
Grez is charmed the past 4 attempts
clear saddle
She will charm the ferael, just need good rng
serene sky
@clear saddle ok thanks I’ll give it a go
inland kite
And fareal is trapped for a second with tasi beore dying
latent cedar
clear saddle
Arden, get one pls, ty
inland kite
Nope nemora will never get charm off
latent cedar
Who should I drop for a second tanker? Thanks
inland kite
I did have Arden, I was nagged to sac him for nemora mythic
latent cedar
Or maybe I can do a better team with the units I have? Idk D:
clear saddle
@latent cedar drop the twins for hogan probably, and maybe swap out nemora for arden? experiment a lil if you want
inland kite
What's the point to have nemora charm fareal when Arden goes straight for him at the same time
latent cedar
@Tuesday Why Hogan > Ogi though? Is Hogan that good? (I'm asking that because of the faction bonuses, idk how much thoses bonues are worth compared to an unit)
clear saddle
@latent cedar Don't take out good heroes for faction bonus, imo, hogan is better.
@inland kite you root the ferael, and then the nemora charms him so that he fears his own team
@still oar lmao that wording
still oar
Charm last longer than root. He can still scream at his mate after the roots wore off
inland kite
Ohh okay, I guess I'll just keep trying
Cause Arden keeps hitting grez if nemora does, or opposing
clear saddle
Well, idk how well thane works, I used shemira carry for all of that
latent cedar
@clear saddle Okok thanks, and I'll try with Arden then !
Other question, who could I take instead of Tasi for the Guild Hunt ?
clear saddle
@latent cedar guild hunt you can use saveas nemora hogan, twins and thane probably
latent cedar
Okok thanks for your help I'll try out that :p
Can I keep Arden for Guild Hunt instead of Nemora ? I struggle a bit with the gear. Or is Nemora rly better than Arden for GH?
clear saddle
@latent cedar arden doesnt do anything at all for gh
latent cedar
ooh okok same thing as Tasi then feelsbad, thanks !
clear saddle
yep, cc units dont work on guild hunt, you just want to maximise ur damage for it
untold nacelle
Help needed please. Any ideas? :)
latent cedar
okok, is it a good idea for me to all in on Saveas at my lvl? Eventhough his lvlcap is low
clear saddle
@latent cedar yes, all in on ur sav, hes quite easy to get
latent cedar
okokay, you helped a lot on my hesitations haha, thanks a lot dood 
inland kite
Shemira isnt 161 yet so, it's not working sadly
OH WAIT. She is, I forgot I got rid of silvina for her
agile root
Yeah... advanced forward a few levels on ch6 but stuck again.. and stuck everywhere else too
inland kite
So something like this?
limpid quail
@untold nacelle try 1-5: lucius brutus saveas arden belinda, you need to get rid of vedan and niru asap
inland kite
Lucius isnt surviving long at all, should I just use lyca in his place?
Meh idk, I gotta work
blazing spindle
Does anyone have a way to deal with these awful full wilder teams? I've been stuck in chapter 20 for so long
reef plank
Try it a couple of times maybe
RNG might just work
I'd try putting Athalia against Saveas & Swap Tasi and Hendricks position
pale kettle
Should I use nemora for Athalia? Silvina always targets her first
thick wedge
Any suggestions for this?
fierce kayak
@blazing spindle^ you should still try more on meta or my this 4 Wilders vs full Wilders lineup buddy. It really works better becos I am far lower power than you. Anyway G luck 🙂
pure lodge
modern snow
I was originally running estrilda, Fawkes, lucius, nemora and shemira but I just got my Brutus to M+ but now that I swapped out estrilda for him it feels like my team got worse?
fierce kayak
@modern snow which chap are you at now? Do note that heroes even if they are S tier like Brutus or Shemira performs differently at their levels. Likewise for their roles. Brutus at this stage might only be just a meat tank only. Don't think he can carry your team depending what chap you at now.
sand rune
I’m amazed. I’ve been hard stuck on this level for nearly two weeks. Any help is much appreciated! 19-6
pale kettle
So I’m stuck again.. I want to see if I can munch more stages for chapter 20 today... any suggestions for 20-36?
turbid fern
Heya, any idea for 17-6 please?
modern snow
@fierce kayak I'm currently in chapter 15
fierce kayak
@modern snow ic.. hopefully your Shemira be ready to go 161+ soon.
final star
Send halp pls tyvm
frank moss
@turbid fern Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Roll till u win. This will be the same lvl as 19-6 so gl
turbid fern
@calm basalt Thank you, I'll keep that in mind and do my best!
frank moss
im actually doing 19-38 rn and its the same thing too lol @turbid fern
limpid quail
20-8....not a chance at all
turbid fern
oh man, that's terrible ennemis team haha
pale kettle
@final star Its the same as 20-33, I made it with
Nemora (chalice)
Shem (eye? Maybe I swapped brutus and Shem dura’s artifacts)
Athalia (grace probably)
Brutus (blade I think?)
Tasi (call)
turbid fern
@calm basalt do you think that getting my Brutus to M+ by feeding him my Saevas (I have a E+ copy to start building another one to L+) would be handy ? (I nearly passed the lvl while writing this lmao)
frank moss
Does Athalia cancel Lyca's haste in beginning? @pale kettle
pale kettle
No it doesn’t, but there’s no Lyca in 20-33
astral marsh
@pale kettle What stage now ? I passed the 20-60 few min ago !
pale kettle
Still stuck at 20-36, @astral marsh ! >.<
sly sparrow
Can someone help me? 15-34
astral marsh
Erf :/ watch ayuh le video 🙂 Good tips for line up. (arden/nemo/tasi/shem/lyca/brutus and some switch) @pale kettle
turbid fern
I also have the choice to M tasi(got enough to copies to ascend her) nemora (1 copy short to ascend)or lyca by feeding my arden and I just need another E+ to make another Arden L+
pale kettle
Gonna watch them now! Thanks!
astral marsh
I passed with a blue arden xD
@sly sparrow shem front golus and arden on top should work with some rng (maybe lyca in middle and tasi bot)
pale kettle
Oh I hope I can pass it... I see the guy has a myth+ brutus.... but I lack of it >.<
sly sparrow
i will try thank youu
astral marsh
@pale kettle Yup i have a A brutus. I think he did well :/ Trust the rng
sly sparrow
wait but that golus is with ankhira... are u sure its the good idea
astral marsh
With arden root, should be good. You loose nothing to try 🙂
sand rune
For those needing help with 19-6: I finally beat it by putting in Arden. I was being stubborn thinking Nemora and Tasi were enough.
mellow hound
18-14 anyone got some ideas? Been stuck here for awhile...hogan plows through everything or Kaz does
sly sparrow
its not working... idk why i tried over 5 times and nothing...
fierce kayak
@final star here you go buddy
astral marsh
@mellow hound shemira front should be good
mellow hound
@astral marsh doesn't work, I've tried many, many times
sly sparrow
it doesnt work for me either, my shem and whole team die anyway... idk how
astral marsh
hum :/
mellow hound
Ira's poison screws over shem, and if i put shem in front of kaz, kaz will send her to the shadow realm
astral marsh
lyca vs hogan so. Lyca is a good "tank" sometimes xD
mellow hound
Hogan kills my 3 wilders before Arden can even tangle
sly sparrow
im so mad i was doing so fine until this stupid stage came up...
mellow hound
@sly sparrow there's always a few walls here and there lol just gotta keep trying. Your team should be more than strong enough
sly sparrow
no its not apparently... everyone dies and shem cant do this alone... i feel like i should just wait and lvl i guess
mellow hound
Put brutus in front of Brutus
astral marsh
maybe sould try without lyca, nemora arden tasi
mellow hound
@astral marsh not havng lyca and her haste is basically a death sentence
astral marsh
not sometimes
mellow hound
@sly sparrow then try to make sure arden tangles spider chick
sly sparrow
uhm guys i do use lyca... thing is tasi doesnt sometimes even get to her ult which leads everyone popping their ult on either anyone or all on shem... which leads to defeat on both
astral marsh
i passed some stage in chap20 without lyca
mellow hound
@sly sparrow he's talking about my stage lol
sly sparrow
sorry... i just im really mad im close to finish another chapter and im not lucky anymore... if it was a boss stage id get it its boss so its obviously hard but this non boss one is harder than the actual boss
mellow hound
That's where I'm at right now lol
Alright so if i were you id try:
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira
last olive
@sleek portal yataaaaaa
mellow hound
Or tasi where lyca is
sly sparrow
i guess nothing hurts trying anymore... so i will try
astral marsh
gz jeje !
pale kettle
@astral marsh I just passed 20-36! 😆 you’re right, that you tuber sure does know his stuff!
astral marsh
yeap ! i passed with him ;)à
sly sparrow
i knew it doesnt work.... everyone dies (even tasi even tho she tries to poof) and then they pluck all ultimates onto shem... this is cursed i wont be able to pass 😦
mellow hound
Lol you'll get it eventually, are you able to record it? I want to see what happens
sly sparrow
no and no... this is a cursed stage i should just leave it and come later when im ready.. perhaps when i get all to 160
mellow hound
On a side note i just best mine with a really random setup, so anything is possible! @sly sparrow why would you wait, your team should be in chapter 17, you just need to find the right comp
sly sparrow
because there is no point trying if it doesnt work
mellow hound
Your team is like the same as mine
sly sparrow
ye but your Shem is ascended, ur brutus has his sig and everyone is 160 at least...
mellow hound
I didn't do all that until chapter 17
modest ridge
any ideas for this cus no matter how hard i try with equips and artifacts arden wont root before ogi stomp/khasos axes onehit my backline
mellow hound
Arden in top back row @modest ridge
sly sparrow
i really dont know... nothing works and im already getting too sad for a videogame... i might as well leave it
modest ridge
can survive that with some units but even after shem ults she just gets charmed and killed
mellow hound
@sly sparrow 😑
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow Run 4 wilders i believe for that stagr.
modest ridge
top row arden gets charmed if he isnt instakilled by ogi
sly sparrow
@indigo jolt u mean lyca front with shem and arden tasi nem back?
mellow hound
Ya that could work, wouldn't hurt to try
sly sparrow
depends when i put nemora though... like who to charm
violet pecan
@modest ridge that is weird... tasi.. does she banish khasos? And put Nemora top left to charm opponent Nemora to charm Ogi
modern snow
@fierce kayak I just need to track down enough copies for a L+ graveborn that isn't ascended working on it
modest ridge
tasi banishes lyca
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow Nemora top to charm ankhira/golus.
sly sparrow
okay and arden mid and tasi bottom? and put shem in front of brutus right
indigo jolt
Something like
Nem
Shem
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
modest ridge
and even with red boots and +speed artifact i cant get my units to trigger before theirs
mellow hound
Try to have Nemora have a good charm target
sly sparrow
ohh ok i will try thanks
modest ridge
got them down to low-ish health a couple times with shemira but cant kill nemora before she triggers her ult and heals everyone
indigo jolt
@modest ridge
You trird.
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
sly sparrow
omg why nothing workssss
modest ridge
yeah arden just dies before he can root
mellow hound
Keep trying, with wilders it's all rng
modest ridge
prob gonna have to sit this one out till my units are slightly better, reckon a 180 brutus would do better at surviving
sly sparrow
well in that case rng hates me cuz it doesnt work... even tho tasi pulls her ult i dont have enough dmg to kill them
indigo jolt
@modest ridge To who?
@sly sparrow Fairly sure unless overlevelled you need Tasi to survive to act asbait after first Shem ult.
empty sierra
For the life of me I can't finish this last stage in Voyage. I keep retrying and now I have both Moonstone and Sunstone. Still go no. I'm thinking may be there is a better lineup?
modest ridge
khasos, he sometimes survives but gets root interrupted then dies anyway
sly sparrow
im done nothing works... as quinia i will wait until my heroes get better lvls
indigo jolt
@modest ridge I cant check my line ups atm, but will ping you later with my stage if you want.
modest ridge
using athalia to stop khasos/ogi does actually work but she dies within like a second lol
aight thanks ^^ keeping on trying with diff teams but each time it ends with the same result
sly sparrow
same... this stage is just haunted for me id rather be safe than rushing it
indigo jolt
@empty sierra I would be tempted to try mehira in for lucius. Try to get mehira and tasi ults as soon after each other as possible
mellow hound
@sly sparrow have you unlocked mythic gear in the shop yet? Or is that chapter 16?
hidden panther
Guys. Does grez still useful for Soren after unlocking his Sig?
forest hedge
need some help please
pale kettle
@astral marsh I am stuck at 20/37 now 😂 not even the video from the YouTube guy can help me apparently
empty sierra
@indigo jolt tried that. She doesn't last long haha
mellow hound
@forest hedge who does silvina go after first?
forest hedge
Arden or Nemora
deep lagoon
mellow hound
🤔 hmmmm put Arden behind Shem then
astral marsh
Yeap i stay at 20-37 for long xD I had the good line up but bad rng xD @pale kettle
deep lagoon
So I got this going for me and I am in 11-36 but I feel like I really need some upgrades to my team before I can progress?
pale kettle
Me too 😆 well I still lack of a 200 brutus, as mine is still only at 180 @astral marsh
mellow hound
@deep lagoon for future reference don't ascend to L if you can't bring them to L+ immediately
forest hedge
@mellow hound you are legend, passed it just 1 go
deep lagoon
Yea, learned that the hard way x.x @mellow hound
astral marsh
That sad xD I give you all my energy !
mellow hound
@forest hedge 😘
@deep lagoon try to get saveas up to L+ and Max level asap
modest ridge
@indigo jolt don’t worry 
managed it with yung rowan, forgot how useful his little cart can be and lucked out on getting his ult with energy
deep lagoon
Thanks, is the difference between E+ and L+ that big? @mellow hound
modest ridge
19-12 if any1 searches channel for it, shem on front with athalia hitting khasos and rowan-tasi-arden from the top down
mellow hound
It's more of a fodder issue. You're using fodder to get to L but now you're waiting for specific pulls to get to L+. Which is why a lot of your characters are stuck at L @modest ridge
narrow sigil
Any tip on 260 tower?
violet pecan
@narrow sigil you need to kill ulmus asap and i think you need Faction bonus for this...
Go something like this
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
narrow sigil
Shemira gets oneshotted by lyca before she gets banished
violet pecan
@narrow sigil even with Faction bonus?
narrow sigil
Yeah Guess ill wait 2/3 days to get her 240
fair sky
is there a hint for mauler faction tower f60?
empty sierra
Please recommend a lineup to get past this last stage in Voyage..
sleek portal
@fair sky hire a good ascended warek mercenary
@empty sierra it all depends on your relic to be honest, your best bet is swap 1 person out for athalia to cancel eironn's pull. or better yet get the cocoon relic to cancel all enemy backline's buff and cc.
turbid fern
Any idea for 17-12 please?
empty sierra
@sleek portal okay I'll give it a try. I have both Moonstone and Sunstone, and the cocoon relic = spider thread? because I have that too but it only stops from in the beginning
sleek portal
@empty sierra MAYBE, a big maybe cause im not sure your entire hero pool, but maybe can use safiya instead of tasi so safiya pops the shield buff for your shemira and saveas
calm tendon
How can I beat last stage of Lucent Vault >_<
fair sky
@sleek portal THX! worked! 🙂
sleek portal
@calm tendon stone or bringer combo, attack relic, poison relic, cocoon relic, get a mix of them and you'll breeze through easily, you need actual tank. you have 0. arden is useless there.
empty sierra
@sleek portal okay but the lineup is okay? I find that I can't take down enemy Brutus fast enough before enemy Safiya uses her ult and destroys my whole team
blazing spindle
Any help? All wilder teams are a nightmare
sleek portal
@empty sierra if i were you i'll hire a mercenary tank instead of dps cause 156 shemira doesnt have the power spike like she's in 161... i might go as far as putting safiya in place of the shemira you hired and hire a better lucius(maybe?) so i get the 3-1-1 bonus
calm tendon
@sleek portal oh okay
sleek portal
@blazing spindle what level is that?
blazing spindle
20-30
empty sierra
Okay..
sleek portal
@blazing spindle my usual advice is asking people to check out youtube on Ayuh Le or Vitaly ........ guy for chapter 20. they helped me clear chapter 20 fairly easy. just need a 220 shemira in their videos.
@blazing spindle if you ask me there's 2 ways of going about it. put brutus face kaz put lyca face ogi then put nemora arden shemira backline. the other way is hire estrilda to face ogi
sleek portal
can u hire a lyca? your estrilda looks pretty tanky(i think), you only need arden in crystal to pop the lock, dont need high ascension R would do.
@blazing spindle maybe try asking in #classic-chat as they have much higher level people lurking there to give you advice. im not the best person to advice you i think for your hero pool. sorry.
blazing spindle
im gonna try out your suggestions first, they seem helpful @sleek portal I just requested a couple of mythic+ lycas and im putting arden in my crystal
winter arrow
got stuck at 9-12, do i still have a chance? or better wait till i ascend my sav to Leg 1st?
supple stratus
19-38 halp
unique magnet
why do you have hogan in your back line lol, id swap him with nemora or something and try to get a good charm off @winter arrow
also you should really be using that savaes at your level
sleek portal
@supple stratus your backline could use some tweak. top to bottom: either ARDEN/SHEMIRA/NEMORA or NEMORA/SHEMIRA/ARDEN. i wouldnt recommend using tasi here.
winter arrow
@unique magnet its some sort of tank rush trying to reach their backline tho they get bursted before they got close. ill try nemora then. isabelle bursting my team
supple stratus
epic nemora gets wrecked but i can try it out a bit.
unique magnet
l always put brutus against ogi on stages like that
supple stratus
kaz just rips apart everything else D:
winter arrow
@@unique magnet would saveas Elite+ enough? i havent had any luck on mauler fodders recently.
sleek portal
@supple stratus even with arden's lock? try arden nemora shemira top to bottom then, otherwise you have to level i think.
unique magnet
probly, the goal of early game is usually to keep savaes maxed in level for whatever you can upgrade him too and he will usually carry you and he makes a good combo with shemira. Sav when over leveled also kinda acts like a tank
sleek portal
@winter arrow the way i see it, all legendary heroes are useless aside from Arden and Saveas. you're even better off putting belinda in palce of hogan even.
twin hound
Anyone got a winning lineup post for 20-44?
supple stratus
yep, whatever that is top (nemora or arden) gets killed instantly
unique magnet
are you putting good gear on nemora or arden to give them enough speed stat to get a skill off before the enemy arden?
sleek portal
@twin hound youtube is your fastest answer i believe, or you can post ss here i can try to give some advice.
@supple stratus do they proc their cc though? if they dont give them a better boots and dura call(if nemora at top backline)
supple stratus
yep, put the highest equips except the ones on shemira on the one up top
unique magnet
Odd, I usually try to nemora charm the enemy arden and he roots his own team
supple stratus
i think epic nemora dies from everything
sleek portal
same, i also use nemora charm enemy arden
twin hound
Who’s YouTube videos are worth watching?
supple stratus
i'll try call and shem boots on nemora
sleek portal
@twin hound Ayuh Le and Vitaly ......... guy i forgot his name for chapter 20
unkempt pier
How to pass this lvl ;-;
twin hound
Thanks @sleek portal
sleek portal
@unkempt pier youtube, or hire an estrilda
unkempt pier
;-;
unique magnet
swap nemora and shemira, id also try brutus against ulm because of the faction damage bonus you wanna slaughter him before he has the chance to go into god mode
supple stratus
She dies before she can do anything
winter arrow
@unique magnet @sleek portal i see. thanks for the input guys. then can i presume its better to hold off on ascending my nemora to Leg then? since ill end up sacrificing arden.
also im already trying to prep my sav. its just that im lacking maulers fodder and good geara for him. all the good gears ended on shem.
real palm
Dear god help noone even lasts longer than 5 seconds!
sleek portal
@unkempt pier can your shemira survive against kaz? if yes hire estrilda to face ulmus then put wilder trio backline
unique magnet
i would not sac arden, youll use him even through map 22 better just to hold onto him
unkempt pier
kaz isnt the problem nemora charms my shem every time
supple stratus
okies, even giving nemora 4* mythic equips she dies instantly. can't use epic one here.
sleek portal
@winter arrow 1 thing new players misunderstood is that shemira is only useful once she's 161 and above... before that it's really hard to play everything around her. you're better off using other carries like saveas or go lightbearers comp.
unkempt pier
but the estrilda shouldn't be a problem since i dont usually hire merc's
sleek portal
@unkempt pier check youtube Ayuh Le and Vitaly .... guy they are super helpful in finishing chapter 20. otherwise try my advice cause this is the exact lineup for 21-60 which i beat a while ago. top to bottom front line shjemira estrilda backline nemora lyca tasi
unkempt pier
@limpid quail i beat it by getting eirron's ult off and wiping them out
supple stratus
yep, no nemora for me. i'll keep trying with tasi.
winter arrow
@unique magnet i see. thanks. ill just wait a bit further before i ascend my nemora then.
@sleek portal yes i plan to reset her tomorrow since i seem to face mostly wilders in chapter 9 and wilder eats graveborn right?
unkempt pier
could i possibly switch out tasi for eirron?
winter arrow
btw guys any idea when would leg gears appear in guild shop?
sweet pasture
What should I be using?
sleek portal
@winter arrow you only buy M gears from guild shop, you save everything up until then.
@unkempt pier tbh im not sure, you have to keep trial and error i guess..
unique magnet
if you go to the guild shop it should say something like "come back after chapter X for more powerful equipment" at the top
unkempt pier
k thx forever
sleek portal
@sweet pasture can maybe try saveas brutus + lucius belinda + rosalind, or use wilder instead of lightbearer
unique magnet
@sweet pasture no reason to have ogi leveled up hes kinda useless
limpid quail
Ok, will try with eironn
sweet pasture
I tried saveas in the front but seems like he does too fast
sleek portal
oh shit you have overlevel saveas, maybe dont use rosalind and use fawkes then. put lucius brutus in front?
sweet pasture
Ok I’ll try that
unique magnet
put sav behind brutus usually
winter arrow
i see. thanks. i thought leg atleast might be worth, i guess i better save coins now then. around how much does mythic gears tend to sell at guild store?
unique magnet
mythic gear is like 31k each
winter arrow
ouch. i now regret buying gears just in guild store just to rush weekly activities lol
turbid fern
Hey, any idea for 17-12 please?
mild wing
Need to overlevel Shem to 200
real palm
Switch it to arden lyca tasi then run until rng works
craggy talon
Help please
rigid dragon
Help 17-24
topaz eagle
19-20 any advice?
pale kettle
stuck at 16-36, any tips?
modest lintel
Any advice for this one? 17-24
still oar
@pale kettle
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi/arden
Nake tasi or Arden as bait and use nemora to charm estrilda.
Call either on Shem or tasi
pale kettle
@modest lintel maybe swap places with lyca and shemira ?
still oar
Since you can't charm ferael try replace nemora with nara or athalia and put tasi behind brutus @modest lintel.
Can your shemira ult?
weak path
Any suggestions on this comp? Tried wilder trio with brutus and saveas. And have rotated in nemora tasi arden with lucius tanking
still oar
@topaz eagle swap brutus and shemira's posts? So grezhul won't steal her ar and dr and face oppe Shem?
Who does fawkes coffin?
topaz eagle
Fawkes coffins shemira, I can get my ult off on shem but after my top dies my shemira is 1v4 and melts to Isabella ult
still oar
And can Nara keep ferael from scream? Do you have nemora?
topaz eagle
nah nara does half of his health before scream but i can ult on shem before scream
indigo jolt
@weak path Can also try nemora top instead of arden.
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Saveas
topaz eagle
my nemora is elite+
still oar
Ah try replace fawkes with tasi to up your def
weak path
Yeah i just can't burn Golus down before Angelo and Marek heal him and then their Saveas cleans up.
still oar
And put sword on Shem while call on tasi
sly sparrow
Is it really not possible?
zinc summit
Can it be done ?
still oar
You need brutus to tank brutus @sly sparrow
Try
Nemora
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Lyca/tasi
Charm ankhira so she won't cocoon shem
sly sparrow
Thats tough... both lyca and tasi are needed tasi nice cc and lyca haste
still oar
Not really. Usually you need lyca to counter lyca so you can cc faster. 3 roots+charm should be enough just need to cc the right oppos
sly sparrow
Well i gues ill go lyca
still oar
Try root khasos+Brut+ankhira if you can't charm
sly sparrow
It doesnt work anyway... my team dies too fast
still oar
How it went?
woven nimbus
I feel like I’m at a point where it’s simply an issue of I am progressing faster than I likely should, but figured I would post here anyways.
My entire backline gets 1 shot about 2 seconds in and then my Shemira goes down about 10 seconds in with my Brutus going into Last Gasp almost immediately.
topaz eagle
@woven nimbus you're quite under leveled/ascended I think, I only passed that stage with the same lineup a 200 1 star shem and a 1 star nara instead of arden with a mythic + brutus
and took me like 50+ tries for the right rng
indigo jolt
@woven nimbus It is a common problem stage, i found you either win easily or loose very quickly as niru will just chain kill everything if dont get perfect cc.
What i ran, but not by any means only solution.
@whole terrace Ran same setup but with nemora mid. Should be just a matter of you getting right cc.
nocturne whale
is this the right channel to ask for help in deciding who to ascend
limpid quail
@nocturne whale #classic-questions
limpid quail
@shrewd depot you have 2 carries atm, take arden or nemora for either saveas or shemira. with nemora charm enemy saveas and kill niru as fast as possible (carry bottom back)
shrewd depot
@limpid quail I’ve tried that, normally I have Rowan instead of Shemira. But I’ll try again.
meager moth
@shrewd depot ditch the shield guy and put shemira at the front
limpid quail
or brutus bottom frontline
meager moth
Then add in arden
shrewd depot
@limpid quail whoever my support is, their Silv just dives them and nukes them.
limpid quail
make tasi lowest def by changing gear, she will teleport away
indigo jolt
@shrewd depot Temporarily remove your tier 3 Tasi union,its 15 % def boost.
spice flax
Having some trouble with this stage any suggestions?
indigo jolt
@spice flax Try
Shem
lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
shrewd depot
Nothing worked. Still just got nuked every time. 😦
This is ridiculous. Honestly so frustrated.
fresh wagon
tried rnging but cant, any ideas?
indigo jolt
@shrewd depot Can you actually make Tasi silv's target?
outer burrow
@fresh wagon try putting hogan in the frontline instead of rowan and putting rosa or athalia instead of shemira. If u use athalia put her on saveas
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt yes, I managed to do that. But still just don’t have enough damage or defense.
I could screen record the fight and show you what happens lol.
thorn tapir
pale kettle
Best future setup ? Or maybe tips thanks in afvance
indigo jolt
@fresh wagon Try dropping Shem for Fawkes.
Or run
Sav
Hogan
Mehira
Brutus
Nemora
fresh wagon
I'll try that
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt lostdenarian#8364 Silv literally one shots my Tasi now
indigo jolt
@shrewd depot With a non crit?You can give her back gear just not chest peice as that has defence on.
wispy pike
Any recommendations as to what my 5th should be? Just started a few days ago.
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt should I use nemora or Arden?
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Generally at this point most people are working towards M shem for 161, when she takes over from Saveas as carry.
@shrewd depot Nemora mid to charm sav, if that isnt working try arden next to sav.
pale kettle
So getting shem mythic is the goal now ok and any other things that i can do ? Im not that stuck now im slowly progressing what about tasi? Is she better then lyca or arden ?
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt
indigo jolt
@pale kettle They're all 3 very good, for different reasons. A common setup is to run Shem Brutus lyca Arden Tasi (Nemora) post 161.
shrewd depot
Talk about rekt
indigo jolt
@shrewd depot Have lyca, tasi will banish axe as khasos throws wh haste.
pale kettle
So il try to get brutus and get shem to higher tier thanks man
forest hedge
i need some help please
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt
indigo jolt
Try unti l charm on sav.
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Sav
Lyca
shrewd depot
She charms sav, but he barely does any damage to his own team. I’ll try though.
indigo jolt
The setup is to try burst down niru, before he can get heals off.
real palm
Could someone @ me if they can help me with 18-40? ill post it in a sec just last time I asked noone responded
indigo jolt
@real palm
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt okay, that part is definitely working better. Niru is getting smacked now. But still losing with 1-2 of their guys left.
indigo jolt
Try with Brutus and sav switched maybe, but may make worse.
real palm
@indigo jolt you won with lyca tank? wow
indigo jolt
A lyca + full M gear.
Can be done with lower ascension, but dodge gear is necessity.
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt you’re the fricken man.
velvet epoch
Strongest line up?
limpid quail
Also doable with lower tier @real palm
velvet epoch
omg I just copied @limpid quail and made it LOL
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt sooo.. about that next boss fight 😂
indigo jolt
lol..
indigo jolt
@shrewd depot Just push Sav, should make it easy. try with arden not nemora though.
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt push their sav correct? So put my sav in bottom front with Lyca?
indigo jolt
@shrewd depot Meant keep levelling yours.
And yeah trip flipping line up, but with arden in middle.
shrewd depot
@indigo jolt beat it 😂 just flipped some gear around and leveled Sav like 4 times.
mental trench
Could anyone recommend a solid team for me please? Can get them all equally to 94 - On 7-6 atm. Started 3 days ago so still learning lots, appreciate any help!
supple sluice
Been stuck on 18-32 for a while now 
forest hedge
any recommendations please?
outer burrow
@forest hedge try using nemora to charm arden and move your arden to the top instead of athalia and move shemira up
magic leaf
Hm what’s my best team for Soren?
forest hedge
@outer burrow shall I keep lyca or tasi ?
outer burrow
@forest hedge keep lyca on in the middle so your arden and nemora will go as fast as theirs, you will need to do a lot of rng on this level to get this
devout berry
hot plaza
soft spruce
@hot plaza
unreal storm
I REALLY need help here
indigo jolt
@unreal storm Try
Lyca
Sav
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
iron kelp
12-8
marsh fern
welcome to the club pal.. stuck at the same spot
iron kelp
😭
marsh fern
im level 77 tho 😄
nocturne furnace
11-38 pls help
pale kettle
@nocturne furnace try with mehira in Lyca’s place maybe
And swap Shem and brutus.
unreal storm
@indigo jolt not even close, unfortunately
marsh fern
@nocturne furnace try arden for lyca and see if he can cc
tasi should banish morvus iirc
still oar
@iron kelp
Try
Shemira
Brutus
Rosaline
Estrilda
Lyca/tasi or Hendrik for bonus
Tbh you need CC or healer to make it easier
marble harbor
@nocturne furnace would put in Arden instead of Nemora for this one. You could also try putting Shemira top, but she’s going to have a tough time carrying until she’s 161
unreal storm
I REALLY need some help for this one.
zinc summit
Suggestions want to build. Team around shemira
marsh fern
@zinc summit Thoran-Nara-Shemira-Saveas-Tasi
not sure tho haven't tried thoran or nara ever
indigo jolt
@devout berry
Shem
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi/Nem
Or try run 4 wilders + Shem, if Shem can survive Kaz till you land first cc.
@supple sluice Honestly need to see rest of your roster, as not a usual team setup.
fleet kernel
Still can't figure out positioning for this. Tried Brutus alone as well & he lasts a while but I still can't even kill 1 of them no matter what I put together.
mystic barn
Brutus alone works there in slot 4, you need good RNG to kill 3 Lucius' on the second ult
Took me about 200 tries a week or two ago
supple sluice
@indigo jolt
fleet kernel
Ah okay I wasn't sure which slot to put him in. I'll try that @mystic barn
indigo jolt
@supple sluice
Try
Lyca
Lucius
Fereal
Serius
Tasi
patent oak
If i switch tasi and ulm is it nice idea ?
frozen whale
Brutus instead of Lucious
patent oak
Tasi is gold but ulm is gold+
steel moat
You need tasi to make enemies sleep so that shemira has enough time to ult
brittle summit
In need of some help for 20-4.
steel moat
Maybe you could reset nemora to 161 and pump some levels into shem?
pale kettle
Guys anyone here that can lend an ascended brutus/warek/Safiya right now, before the faction tower changes? I’m desperate to finish floor 60 of mauler tower 😭
patent oak
@steel moat ok i will wait to up shem lvl 200 thx for help
steel moat
@brittle summit
Tasi
Lucius (iirc his phys immune counters vurk)
Shemira
Lyca
Nemora
indigo jolt
@brittle summit
steel moat
@indigo jolt are you by any chance far enough to help me with this 
20-26
indigo jolt
@steel moat Only on 20-17 as still slow playing as still have 2 more weeks for A Shem.
steel moat
Ah ok, I'm impressed you made it that far with only m+ shem 😂
indigo jolt
I probably wouldn't of made it with my L brutus, but threw my merc at it.
supple sluice
Thanks! @indigo jolt
still oar
@steel moat
unreal storm
Still haven't been able to beat this
steel moat
Thanks @still oar! I ran it with estrilda since brutus was going down too quickly and it worked
eager tusk
Stuck on 12-40
high oyster
Need some advice
brittle summit
@steel moat @indigo jolt tried these setups out but wasn't able to clear the stage.
steel moat
Is the main problem that lyca goes down too quickly?
brittle maple
Need help. Back line melts from the aoe before they can do anything
I have to use sav to tank the veldan to kill him before he bats
wraith barn
Been stuck 2 days any help?
white ravine
Any advice on wilders tower 40? Literally no one on either team died when I tried this the first time
high oyster
Need advice
indigo jolt
@white ravine Have Nemora tank one lucius, then have kaz & lyca focus the other. See if that works.
inland kite
plush kelp
Any idea
white ravine
okay I'll give it a shot
clear saddle
@plush kelp arden top? its gonna be rough for him at bottom with the estrilda charge
indigo jolt
@plush kelp
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
Maybe?
clear saddle
Yeah, not sure how good shem is against golus, think she gets ulted by and stuff
indigo jolt
@inland kite Try dropping Shem for Fawkes, maybe.
As long as he doesn't coffin fereal.
white ravine
@indigo jolt well I almost killed one of the Lucius' when time ran out lol. I think I probably just need to level my crystal guys more. Not sure it's doable with all my heroes at 160
indigo jolt
@white ravine Fairly sure i did that at 160 but with M or A lyca and same heroes, have you switched gear around?
white ravine
I haven't. Although I don't have any mythic gear for except for mage stuff (for Shemira)
indigo jolt
Switch to best gear, i probably also had M gear on lyca. If you finish 1 quickly should be doable. You can try manual Tasi ult to interrupt Lucius shields as well if you want.
inland kite
He coffins ferael every time rip
inland kite
So any lineup anyone?
clear saddle
@inland kite i mean, its hard for me to give you lineup advice because i cheesed it with meta team, and since thane is your carry, im not sure how viable that its. I usually clear ferael camps with shem brutus arden lyca and nemora
inland kite
I did itttttttttt
Thane got lucky with some crits so fareal couldnt poison him since it sent thane into his ult phase
How is shemira suppose to be a carry? Shes mythic max for me yet she doesnt carry
indigo jolt
@inland kite Thats excatly why.... at that point Shem would be 200 in a meta comp.
clear saddle
@inland kite she's a carry for me personally. I got her to M+ and reached ch19 with it, her sustain and damage is insane
inland kite
Thing is everyone, legit everyone except you two said she carries at 161 rip
indigo jolt
She does, but not at that stage xd... as 200 thane carried you past where 180 shem can carry probably
clear saddle
she does carry at 161, but her level scales along with the campaign stages
inland kite
Ohhh okay I get it now
clear saddle
You cant expect an underlevelled carry to carry you lol
solid meadow
Not sure if this is what this channel is used for, but before I use my resources on characters I would like to know if this is my best loadout for general use (current team is top 5)
clear saddle
@solid meadow top 5 looks good
indigo jolt
@solid meadow You're missing Saveas, Shem is considered a better carry later on. But is good to work on for now. Otherwise, above ^
inland kite
Lmao thane makes shemira and brutus seem like a joke now for me
solid meadow
Ok thanks guys
high oyster
inland kite
Legit only boosted thane further cause some people said thane sucked @clear saddle :P
clear saddle
@high oyster you gotta level up your dps first, then tank. keep that in mind moving forward. Make up your mind who you want your dps to be first, can be belinda or saveas, dump all your levels into that carry. then swap out the other carry for tasi or arden
mellow hound
Is this actually as hard as it looks? I can't beat it...
clear saddle
@mellow hound maybe eironn in crystal if you have space? replace ulmus with him?
indigo jolt
@mellow hound Hard as you lack focused damage, try switching lyca and nemora. See if you can focus down 1 lucius first.
lapis fable
Any suggestions I'm rather stuck
clear saddle
@lapis fable does athalia do much? if not, maybe swap her out for lyca? or use tasi as bait instead of rosaline
pale kettle
Help I’ve been stuck for a while
10-36
lapis fable
Athalia mainly knocks down vedan
clear saddle
@pale kettle take out belinda for arden probably
@lapis fable use tasi and lyca instead of athalia and fawkes maybe?
pale kettle
Ok
marble harbor
Any ideas for floor 186?
peak sonnet
Anyone could help with 24-14
clear saddle
@marble harbor setup looks good, just need good rng i guess
@peak sonnet maybe ask tugey?
mild wing
@peak sonnet lemme check what I used
pale kettle
@clear saddle better but still no
inland kite
Holy crap all the heals
mild wing
@peak sonnet Can you post a pic?
peak sonnet
mild wing
k 1 sec lemme check
pale kettle
Lucius doesn’t even ult
clear saddle
@pale kettle swap your tanks' positions then?
mild wing
@peak sonnet I used meta, 1-2 front Brutus Tasi, 3-4-5 back Lyca shem nemora
pale kettle
even worse
forest hedge
is there any chance i can beat this ?
clear saddle
@forest hedge can your arden root first?
@pale kettle if you have M boots and estrilda, you can replace brutus with estrilda and she will nullify the damage of silvina jump sometimes
forest hedge
@clear saddle yea arden can root first, but die after that
clear saddle
@forest hedge replace athalia with tasi?
forest hedge
current line up now is tasi lyca shemira brutus and arden
clear saddle
@forest hedge you might actually be able to run 4 wilders. Lyca top against ogi, Arden middle, nemo top back, lyca bottom and shem against the kaz?
peak sonnet
They can’t even do their ults
mild wing
hmmm
peak sonnet
I tried this and it’s the best what i could do.
high oyster
@clear saddle aye it worked thx
mild wing
how many times did u run the one I put
clear saddle
nice
high oyster
One second clutch 😅😅😅
forest hedge
@clear saddle u meant like this ?
peak sonnet
A few times probably 5-10
clear saddle
@forest hedge maybe arden middle, see what happens
pale kettle
20-8 help please. Can my current level even beat this stage?
inland kite
Yay chapter 17 done
pale kettle
clear saddle
@pale kettle arden instead of nemo probably
pale kettle
do not tell me to use wilder trio it doesnt work estrilda 1 shots
clear saddle
@pale kettle use arden at the bottom, root kaz estrilda etc
lapis fable
forest hedge
@clear saddle you are legend bro, passed it. thank you ♥️
lapis fable
@clear saddle what would you do here with my roster
dreamy flicker
inland kite
If you got tasi, switch around gear so shes the one getting targeted and she can poof away @pale kettle
Silvina goes for the lowest defense hero I'm pretty sure
pale kettle
i cant
i have L+ gear in tasi still lower than arden
What would be my best overall team?
this is not passable
@pale kettle try this:
Lyca
Brutus
Shem
1 random mauler mage
Safiya
It will work trust me
i dont have Safiya
And that random mauler mage can be even lvl 1
What about mercs?
used already in ch15