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@lethal ember what about Belinda lol I'm using her
Why not Khasos he can front and backline
Hi everyone I struggle getting past 7-4 and in other game modes too any help would be greatly appreciated
@unreal storm have u tried using Saveas instead of Arden?
@lethal ember but i need all heroes that are in
@lethal ember yeah
Hmmmm
The only thing I can suggest are mercenaries and if ur having a repeated problem I would focus on other activities to collect resources so U can strengthen my heroes like peaks pf time sorry I couldn't help much
I’m not sure what to do next with my graveborn. I’ve got the resources to work towards making Grezhul ascended eventually, but I’ve been kind of meh about him lately. I’m not sure if I should try to get something else to legendary + first to help with the graveborn tower instead
Darn i thought i was doing something wrong in my build but seems ill need some new heroes and xp to get past this threshold. The very big problem is i struggle in other game modes too :/
@alpine lake You’re still very early on so I wouldn’t stress about it much. This game is a slow burn where you go a long time with no progress, have a sudden breakthrough where stuff moves fast, and then you get stuck again until you afk enough to pass the next wall
I agree with the assessment that more time afking is needed. You also can try to rearrange the order of heroes (even if it seems really stupid to do) just to see if something gets good rng
Okay thanks @oblique marsh cause my friends are very lucky on invocation and stuffs and they are catching on me very quickly so i was kinda lost when i saw my team been blocked on this fight for like one or two days 😂 !
Goddamn finally done with ch 11 ^^ thanks for all the wonderful help and ideas
Final formation for 11-40 if it may help anyone ^^
@alpine lake this game is designed to make you feel pressured by other people’s progress to spend money. Don’t fall for it, just take it slow.
Also there’ll be a point soon where you get stuck for week(s)
Ye it’s a afk game.. just afk and play it casually Also a lot of rng.. so sometimes.. you just need to run a lot of battles and get rng on your side
Damn well i hope it wont happen soon then 😂 Anyway thanks for your councils @oblique marsh ! 😄
I could really use some help
İs this possible without merc?
Yeah, I think my lineup looked similar when I beat it. Maybe throw Ros in there somewhere?
İ almost win I guess it's up to RNG dodges and crits?
RNG was what got me through that one I think
@cinder crag Move Fawkes bottom, Belinda top.
Just a matter of manual ulting fawkes at that stage, can check if i saved my formation if you want as i mercd a fawkes i think.
İt's way too hard
Can anyone help me with 10-8?
@pale kettle
Even if i kill khasos and 3 Brutus single Brutus is more than enough for team wipe
@unreal storm your team should be good enough for that, just keep playing around with formation and wait for good rng
Any ideas?
Nvm beat it though it was an absolute shit show
@cinder crag Cant find anything below floor 65. But i am sure i had Rosalina or Rtaine instead of Thane.
Congratz
@pale kettle Fairly sure you need Khasos sig unlocked, then its just a matter of him rnging enough axe throws.
@maiden cobalt I thought my team should be good enough too but I'm getting slaughtered
@indigo jolt just a level 1 sig?
@pale kettle Unlocked, i think is enough. Just the higher the level the less rng as more consistent axe throws.
@maiden cobalt Try
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Lucius
Saveas
or
Saveas
Arden
at bottom. But ideally you should be overlevelling Saveas.
@pale kettle Nope..
read down image. goes 1 - 5. SO lyca Brutus frontline. Shem Tasi Arden back.
http://prntscr.com/p0fwb9 ive been stuck on this for a while if any1 can hlep would be greatly appreciated
@pale kettle try putting Tasi as a tank with Lucius, then using Saveas as carry instead of the top left chick. Forget her name.
ok ill try thanks
Anyone got any advice for me to try? I could ascend Silv to legend but I’ve never used her. Not sure if I want to use the resources on her.
Note: I usually use Rowan in middle but I had some success putting Mirael in middle for a few levels.
Any suggestions? Tried a few variations but end up getting wrecked by Niru before I can kill him. Is this just an exp thing?
Only ascend her if u can instantly ascend her to legendary+ also
Try switching Saveas and Brutus
@lethal ember people keep telling me that but I’ve been forgetting. Why is that exactly?
@weak path put Sav behind Brutus, and swap Tasi and Lyca
@weak path reset Lyca + brutus levels / level your Shemira to 140 and use her frontline Behind Saveas
It would be a waste of resources its in the pinned comment of the #classic-questions channel
Try getting another graveborn fodder since u already have 2 Silvina elite+
@lethal ember I should be able to get another Shemira in the next 2-4 days. I was going to save my fodder for her. Plus, I have 10 faction scrolls I was going to use when it switches to graveborn in a few hours.
Then leveling up ur Shemira after ascension should help u
@granite chasm so what would be team comp 1-5 if I reset brutus and lyca and get shem to 140? Would that take me to 161?
@weak path Lyca Tasi Nemora / Saveas + shemira , you can Change Nemora sometimes to Arden or Tasi if u dont need heal or Charm for more cc options
And that would be the standard comp for most stages in chap 10 to 11?
Hello. I got trouble with opponents : 5 DPS team. they burst me before I got any ult. any advice please? Thanks
(this is 11-40, final boss stage)
Stuck on one of the last stages of ch9,
Aloha . Stuck on 18/16
Silvina sticks to arden, and overall i get fucked no matter the formation i tend to try. Im going to be ruthless 🤣
Stuck on 10-28
12-40 help
@tacit zephyr
Try
Nemora
Arden
Brutus
Sav
Shemira
Its only been a day but still
@lethal ember could you send a full hero list? Thanks!
12-36 anyone?
@random verge
Nemora
Brutus
Athalia (make sure to gear her)
Shemira
Lyca
You should be able to get past it pretty easily with that shemira 😅
Ye she cant quite get her second ult off lol that's why shem isn't carrying :(
What artifacts are you using?
@broken granite @clear saddle either of y’all got the ss for 19-38 because it’s a biiiiiiiiiiiitch
@steel moat did it finally, stalled them out with nara and athalia until shem could kill em
Nice!
@pallid lake
Awesome @steel moat thanks
Np! It still took me way too many tries to beat it with that setup just as a heads up
Yeah I was just a hair off on most of my tries so far so I figured either setup was gonna take a lot of rng
@steel moat like this?
Yep, thank you!
@lethal ember Try this,
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Eironn
I forget if tasi banishes ferael or shemira, since your goal is to have nemora charm ferael so he terrorizes his own team you may have to swap out tasi for another wilder if there is conflict
Oh ok does Eironn frontline?
@pallid lake send a pic of it and i might remember what i used
Oh no nevermind i get it
It’s the 5 wilder hell
I actually have the exact setup i used for that stage 😅 I didn't think i took a screenshot, so it looks like tasi does banish ferael so i swapped her for arden that stage
Anyone got any suggestions for 9-20? Stuck for a couple days now, no one really close to getting ascended
stuck 9-38 tips please
Help please
@pallid lake that's what i'd use (u could also try swapping nem and arden positions if needed)
Nem
Shem
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
I need some help please, been stuck here for a while
god all these wilder stages are giving me PTSD, second half of ch.20 just replaced ogi with ulmus for more cancer
Ardent is a character is all i can say.
dpn't have too much exp w bel to help @pale kettle but if u had the meta comp i'd tell u to run lyca,shem,tasi, arden, nem <- in that order
Yea, i have not had any luck with my pulls
I have not pulled a single shemira, i bought both of them to get her to elite plus.
Need some help on floor 234
@broken granite appreciate it, now on to clearing ch20
18-16 help
Ok so I can easily get to the boss in lucent vault but cant beat it, I've tried different relic combos and nothing seems to work
@random verge Best relic for the Vault is cocoon relic.
I had it last run and still got destroyed lol
It's the best one, and you also need someone to interrupt Eironn. Like Athalia or Nara or Arden. Something of that sort.
@pallid lake congrats on ch 20, I got some screenshots, not all. Good luck
Hi was wondering if anyone can check my lineup and tell me which factions I should focus on thanks
@jaunty glade faction scrolls are probably best spent on wilders, they have the highest chance of giving you good stuff
Would it be worth while to save a bunch of them and summon at the same time or just use 10 by 10 ? Thanks
doesnt matter really
only time it matters is when you spend diamonds because when you do 10 you are getting 1 for free
So my lab should be buy shemira then get nemura?
yes
I'm now at 20-4. Can I expect to get any further with how my heroes are currently or will I need to wait till I get more heroes ascended?
@brittle summit You can push to 20-20ish, you may have the odd stage where you need to merc a Brutus from my experience running L Brutus.
you might struggle map 20 is kinda a gate to start getting ascended people
@pale kettle Try dropping lyca, and add a 3rd bait mage. Rowan maybe, doesnt matter if he dies. Put behind Brutus.
@clear saddle @unique magnet thanks for the advice used 10 factions summoned tasi got her to L+
Nice
at the final stage of chapter 4,, hella stuck on this as well, any tips?
@wanton helm take out the blue for for the purple below her and just level him up to 40 at minimum and get him the blues’ equipment
gotcha 👌
Need help plz
I'm ultra sad cause I only got 3 elites in 103 summons what should I be running I'm at 6-12
why arent you using sav
Everyone says he's op early but idk he's doing nothing I'll try him again
gotta over level him dump everything into him and he will carry you for a while
thats the general rule with carries, gotta overlevel them
I overlvld Shem she was doing 100k DMG and 70k tanking the whole time then I started losing so I reset her to make it more even
Rest of the team was doing 0-8k dmg
You (over)level in the order of carry -> tank -> supports or else youre gonna progress a lot slower
leveling heroes evenly doesnt really work too well
Ok ty
you over level your carry, till you get stopped by having to level all your heroes on the crystal to continue, then you level everyone to meet whatever the requirement is, then go back to your carry
^
7-28 has me stuck bad. Any thoughts?
Try exchanging Nemora for Rowan to charm Mirael. @unique kestrel
Hey guys, I’ve got a L+ Belinda and Thane I was wondering which I should ascend, I always use both in my parties, Belinda is a great Nuke and her mythic item is good but Thane is my front line guy with Lucius so idk which to pick
I've been stuck here since like 5 days
do I use fawkes or saveas?
Tasi
Arden
Lyca
Hogan
Saveas @bitter shadow tell me if anything changes
@versed estuary Personally I'd say Belinda.
@pale kettle Try Fawkes first.
@versed estuary Belinda. Your gold/day will increase since you can use her for best dmg output on wrizz
When should I swap saveas/fawkes?
@pale kettle disable automatic fight ans use fawkes ulti when some of them are on " inmortal" form.
What is tower of light
whats the best team i can make
@bitter shadow Tower of Light is the Lightbearer faction tower. Faction towers unlock after defeating 14-40.
Can someone give me advice on how to beat 15-40? I have a friends mythic Lyca or Tasi I could also use
@white ravine swap brutus and shem position, then run lyca instead of lucius
What's the best line up I can do with this fellas? Any tips and recommendations are accepted.
Who are you running though?
@white ravine I used this for 15-40, Athalia is from Mercenary.
Okay, I don't use either, but should I ascend khasos or numisu to mythic? Saveas food.
@bronze elbow im running with this and sometimes gotta exchange saveas with tasi and or fawkes
Im stuck here.
fun fact: 21-4 sucks and I do not like it. any ideas?
or do i just need to finish getting my crystal to 200
i pushed to 21-60 with that same team
higher levels/ascensions then i'm assuming?
@silent wraith 20-45
hmm. guess i just gotta keep ascending/leveling. wish dust wasn't such a bottleneck but 🤷
push faction towers and do all the peaks if you havent, you get a lot of dust
I don't know. You have a problem similar to mine, where I had no good tanks. Until I got thoran up there, I ran a vedan in the front, so maybe kelthur might help? The two divers combo of silvina and tasi would also work.
@bronze elbow who are you talking to? Haha.
Stuck on 10-32
New to discord. Sorry
I'm stuck on 11-40
@unique magnet Working on that! I think I've gotten all the dust from peaks that I can, given that I've gotten all the small rewards from every level and all the crystal chests but Solar Plane, Abysmal Delves, and Contorted Realm, but I have a lot more I can do on the faction towers.
you should be leveling and using saveas, also move nemora down 1 and try to taunt the enemy saveas
18-16 help!
@north pelican this was the formation i used, although you should use brutus instead of estrilda 😅
have you tried resetting brutus back to 180 and leveling shem to 200 instead
@steel moat I don’t have estrilda?
@unique magnet hmmm illl try that , I wish I had more primordial to level up that signature item on shemira. I legit just got her mythic 😄
Yeah i know, it was because i had estrilda in my lineup for that stage and i was saying to use brutus instead of her for your lineup 
@steel moat even if she’s only Leg?
@unique magnet nvm she only mythic. Max level only 180 lmaooooooo
Sorry if i'm being confusing- try this setup
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
That leg+ arden you got will help a lot in some stages
Thanks wish me luck
@golden stone put tasi on the frontline vs the tree. Brutus in front of kaz, shem behind brutus, nemora on the position of ur lyca.
Shemira isn’t that strong enough . Arden and tasi just gets 1 shot
I need some help im stuck on 7-8
@hidden panther Giving it a try!
11-28, stuck.
I have no idea how to attack this
@hidden panther Is this what you meant? Wanna make sure I'm not goofing it up
Yrp. Temember to gear up Rasi with the horn, Beutus with the cape, lyca with the crit tiara, shemira with the sword and nemora with the ring
And do several trys xD
I don't have the ring yet 😦 haven't been able to beat Solar Plane yet because of the "nerf." Currently got her wearing the Chalice.
Do several trys, until tasi decides to jump correctly
Will do!
solar plane literally all about poison relic, and bringer combo
solar plane is all about being way too hard considering i have 100% every other peaks even past it
Any ideas for this stage? Get kinda close every now and then but get rolled regardless of comp.
@eager jay well you dont really have a choice here, pretty much meta lineup, play around with dura artifact and i'd advice using arden
Arden in place of who?
any tips?
@eager jay lyca brutus shem arden tasi 1-5
@sleek portal By the poison relic do you mean the Kaz one or the general "basic attacks can apply poison" one? And if you mean the Kaz one is it still doable if my Kaz is just Legendary? (yes, I ascended her to L without being able to get her to L+; in my defense, I was very stupid back then)
Third time's the charm? Correct stage and roster
Any ideas? Been stuck about a week LOL
Any tips for beating 20-27?
oh god that level took me ages. ngl i don't remember how i did it besides ridiculous RNG but i empathize very much
id put brutus against ulmus so you can kill him as fast as possible, pray for good rng on damage on his spin you wanna try to 1 shot him before he goes into OP mode
@ripe salmon Looks pretty decent. I might suggest trying to find a way to work Tasi into the lineup as I think you could probably use a bit more CC; Thane doesn't add too much to what you've got going on, besides the faction bonus, so I might look to replace him
If you've got a Nemora that might be good too! You probably don't need two main-tanks so if you get a good Nemora up and running I'd probably put Shemira front-line where Lucius is (because he's acting as your healer right now), because Shemira (despite being a mage) is actually pretty tanky and benefits from getting the extra energy from taking frontline hits
my sincere apologies for the trainwreck that sentence was lmao
Need line-up to defeat them
try using call on shem or tasi and also try charming a nemora
Is this a good line up? Tell me how I can improve please
i would try replacing lyca and nemora with belinda and fawkes. Also dont make so many L heroes cause it is a waste of fodder heroes u will need later to make heroes A
i normally wouldnt use lucian, and put shemi up front, thowing in an arden for the wilder trio
@ember bane four wilders. It’s not that bad with a little rng luck. The next stage has stumped me though
lucius is a really good tank and healer, shemira isnt really a good frontline till 161 aswell
Some of those L heroes are fodder for A like im building up Saveas to sacrifice for M Brutus
Saveas is a really good carry until level 160 but after he is decent for legends championship
I like Lyca because of the haste thats all shes pretty useless after the haste runs out
every match up is different of course, but i personally have used shemmy tank up to 15 wher im currently stuck...poor M+ luci requires gear i dont have to be useful atm, so lyca boostig double wilder cc, reduces the need for frontline tankiness
I need 161 for tank Shemira so her Ult heals her
it will be entirely dependant on how much cc you can get off before she dies pre 160. when i used her as pre 161 tank, i had aoe mehira charm/tasi as options
never used nemora tho, as i relied on getting off an aoe cc, and having shemira killing them
locking down one high lvl threat
removing buffs, too
yes. and removing pesky brutus immortality
Damn he can remove brutus immunity
yep, gotta time his ult right to do it tho
What makes athalia so good in late game?
Any tips on this?
her ult is really strong, so is her sig item and her cc ability and ult are useful af. @plucky flint rng charm arden and call on shemira
@plucky flint Which floor is that?
Please help me 
Niru probably needs to die quickly first, I would try laneing saveas vs him. Can you take saveas to L with fodder or not yet? Cause you really need him at 140 not belinda it will make big difference
@mild wing not yet I literally need one Ankhira and I can take him to L+
Might just need to hope you get one real soon cause honestly itll be a joke easy once he is and overlevelled
I want that so bad
Everything looks good, its just the level I think
I spent over 150$ on this game so far and still can't L+ him yet 
your close and L+ will take you all the way to 160
@mild wing 238
@plucky flint Have you tried laneing brutus vs niru with a dps like lyca or shem behind him to burst him?
@mild wing will try it. Feel like the two feraels are the bigger problem, esp with Arden and Shem running cc. But I feel like everything I’ve tried is just flailing
@plucky flint You are quite underlevelled it might just be a time thing, but thats something to try.
Id flip rosa and belinda
The only one really giving me a problem is eironn
which keeps belinda out and rosa has high dodge and more survivability after the pull which is why I suggested that, if you had an arden or tasi for cc I would suggest that as well
I do have ardenn just not at a high rank only blue
@golden stone kaz poison elite should do the job
18-16 help please! Tasi and Arden just dies right away , and even if shemira ults , she just dies
@brazen crown I beat that one by having nemora charming Eiron
@north pelican Your carry is -20 levels and the rest of your team is -40, I know your capped but... thats why honestly
@north pelican yeah, i would love for her to do that 😂 😂
@brazen crown is she not?
@mild wing guess I gotta wait till I can get them mythic. Belinda and khaos ain’t cutting it
Anyone got tips? Or do I just wait til I can make shem Mythic and lvl 161 😭
@north pelican nope
@brazen crown just keep trying till she does
@lone maple Put nemora on top to charm saveas id try
@brazen crown
Brutus
Belinda top back
Nemora middle
Rosa bottom back
Hendrick
@north pelican i'll give that a try
Silv jumps in my nemora. How do I get her to jump on someone else?
@lone maple remove gear to low def
She jumps whoever has the lowest def, if you have duras drape you can put that on nemora too to raise def
How do I go about this? The bottom two heroes cannot hold out lol.. I switched the ninja dude out for others but enemy sav still melts
@cosmic kestrel can u show the rest of ur heroes?
Can anyone give me advice on this stage on how to beat it
@novel fulcrum focus on killing vedan as fast as possible
@novel fulcrum Reset ur belinda and lucius, overlevel ur saveas. Keep the rest at 120, then u can run sav lucius tasi lyca and brutus maybe
Also @novel fulcrum do stack all your dps on the side of vedan. and also put arden in your resonating crystal when you have space
So I keep getting beaten on this mission, not sure what I need to set up teamwise... every time I go it's over in 10 seconds...am I just hitting to far above my weight?
@rustic wren do you have an arden in your crystal?
I do not, I can though
Get one in your crystal then you can run Brutus Shem frontline, nemora middle with lyca and arden at the back
Ok thank you
I need some help on this one, all my level 120 heros you can see on that pic
Hi ! Need help for 16-40 please
Have you tried lyca over tasi? The haste may help more than her ult will. since you already have arden Other than that it looks good with the interrupt on arden and your own for cc
@uncut sapphire deja vu @dreamy flicker try this?
@uncut sapphire lyca shem arden tasi nem and run the rng slot machine till you hit. That’s how I did it anyway (you can switch lyca and Shem; can’t remember which had the edge)
@dreamy flicker can’t you reset your 4 heroes and boost Shem to 200?
@dreamy flicker I did what chapter with 200 level shem and 160 rest, so @clear saddle may be right
You can clear chapter 16-19 with 200 Shem easy
@clear saddle easy is overkill 😄 as it depends on your other heroes
Lol no, 200 Shem will obliterate ch 16-17. Yeah I worded it badly, but you can reach ch19 with 200 Shem easy
and will not on chapter 19 😄
no tanks to protect her though
put her in frontline...
Brutus and her can frontline lol
Will do 😊
What you think about my team???
@ornate totem it's ok
@plucky flint Thanks I’ll try that !
Shem 200 took me to middle of ch 20. But she needs good gear and a meta team around her to get that far.
@plucky flint have shem level 211 and not even in the middle of chapter 20 😄
Stuck on 9-28
@humble pine you defo need 220 Shem to reach 21, and 200 Brutus if you run meta. 200 not needed for Brutus but helps a lot
@Tuesday, I'm on 20-26 now 😉
@fathom blade can u show the enemy comp too? tq
@humble pine I stalled out around 20-23 at which point I needed to get Shem above 200 to get further. But I had three 5* gb faction gear pieces and was running meta team around her
With this setup, which is quite meta :D
@fathom blade damn buddy, looks like you're a lil ascension capped tbh, you need dps. Hogan and Estrilda are not dps. some examples would be saveas or belinda, you need to get them to L/L+ and then overlevel them cus rn yours are super underlevelled
@humble pine would reset Belinda to take Shem to 220 if you don’t want to wait for the xp
Honestly the 9 levels aren't game breaking @humble pine think i got a screenshot for that stage if u need
@plucky flint I was thinking about it 🙂 but I'm out of gold 😄
@clear saddle do I just wait for heroes then? How long will it take?
@fathom blade really depends on your luck tbh, if you can get your saveas to L+ then reset the rest of your heroes and max him out as much as possible. you just gotta run with what the game gives you unless you want to spend money
@supple plover unless you have other fodder, dont do anything since belinda and estrilda are both ascended tier heroes and are rarer to come by
Alright, didn't thought about that one hehe. Thanks 
np
@supple plover you also want to go to L+ straight away, beacause you probably waste fodder when going to L and dont get the copies to go to L+. Refer to the pinned messages in #classic-questions
@ornate totem I think meta team will work better becos with Cc to help Shem with her ulti.
Not sure how well both thane and Belinda does without pumping overlevels into them..
One carry is good enough imo. With tanks and supports.
But I might be wrong, you can try and see how later.
@fierce kayak he doesn't want meta team
@humble pine ic.. haha.. erm. Sure. All the best for him, as long as he has fun 🙂
Thanks for the info
I mean at the end of the day, you can experiment however you like. thats why there's the retry button etc @ornate totem
@fierce kayak fun is the way to go 😄 I'm having fun with meta team for now :D
Btw, how is your own progress?
@humble pine I can't get any fun for afk farming for gears.. 😂
But it's the route I chose.. no choice.. 
@fierce kayak tbh, its more about the levels/crystal than equipment now i realise
@clear saddle then I will say that it's more about fodder/dust for me 😄
@clear saddle Ya.. maybe.. but I lacking resources too so no point rushing. Need to be as Pro as Tuesday to rush campaign
Yep, im dust capped right now, feelsbad. need 35k more dust for 240 shem
stu k at 6-39. any line up rec?
@wild tree show enemy comp too ty
is there any resource for the 4 faction comps in the kings tower?
Stuck at 8-32
@wild tree you're gonna want to put tasi in crystal when you have space. Also, maybe reset shemira and max out your saveas, hes gonna have more reliable dps for now. Then replace shemira with him.
@abstract tree you need to get a hero that can dish out dps, right now you have none. try and get your saveas to L/L+, then dump all your levels into him or else you're gonna get stuck for a while
where should he be? front or back?
@wild tree you can probably run a hogan if you have one instead of tasi, arden does plenty good cc, have hogan and thoran tank and sav backline
@abstract tree you need your carry to be around 40 levels in front of everyone else if you can. then you can run hogan and gorvo front with tasi arden and your main dps back
Can anyone help? 15-8
@sly sparrow you can probably run shemira into kaz with arden middle back. then replace nemora with tasi? see how it goes. need your arden to root enemy arden kaz and numisu i think, then pray for tasi and shem ult
ye i can try that
Ye if you do that I would use call on tasi instead of shem, when tasi ults you should win it
thoran hogan arden numera saveas?
i use call on tasi... and on shem eye
@sly sparrow @wild tree looks good
alright. will try tonight
it doesnt work omg... somehow they dont die
@sly sparrow if your shemira dies too fast, you can try run her back into brutus, just you need good rng and hope your tasi can tank a spin. Or maybe you can run lyca as offtank and shem behind her
Also @sly sparrow if that doesn't work you can also try arden and nem swapped around. If your nem charms enemy arden all enemies should be rooted
well it not like she does die fast, more like kaz either wrecks her or not depending if she is rooted... if she is she survives but rest of team doesnt unless RNG happens but even that it seems liek they overheal my dmg
That could work too, the possibilities are endless, so is the rng heh. Yeah kaz is brutal, if your arden doesnt root her, just reset
@sly sparrow on top of that prob will take a lot of tries anyway
hmm that nemora arden thing probs wont work since he roots her before she manages to charm
@sly sparrow if you have blade maybe use that on shem might also help since she will deal more dmg as the fight takes longer
with that line up, no faction boost. is that ok?
ye i dont have blade... sadly havent finished viper marsh yet... quite weak to do that
Too make her charm faster try and give her some better boots
@wild tree yeah, thats fine
@sly sparrow nem should be able to charm faster since haste, but you might need M boots on her, you can swap your shems boots if necessary
i guess i can do that
alright. thanks again
wow now shem dies too fast... i think i will just wait and lvl my heroes and try later
@sly sparrow are you running tasi instead of nem or...?
well i tried tasi arden nem backline
I think you need tasi arden lyca backline
ye i think ill try that... but maybe im just underleveled once i get all to 160 it should be a breeze
@sly sparrow Old line up.
ooo 4 wilders i see its not 15-8 tho cuz 15-8 has Kaz and Brutus frontline
Yeah, sometimes you can getaway with 4 wilders, but those stages are different composition lol.
Its the stage after..
oh i see... well there is no hurt with trying it but idk if i will be able to survive without Brutus's immunity
Depends how well geared your lyca is.
@sly sparrow 4 wilders gets a lot better if you get good equipment on lyca, once she gets good boots and wep, she can dodge like a monster
well she has one M gear others are at least L i think
I know you can run w/o 4 wilders, i did on alt but dont bother save lines up from that.
i mean i can try it im just saying idk if i can do it without Brutus
Yeah, i didnt start saving lineups until ch18 i think, saved a few from ch16 that were super annoying
OK. Lineup with Brutus id suggest.
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
@clear saddle then I know whom to ask for a lineup 😄
I saved quite a bit from ch20 😉
i mean i can do 4 wilders too im just sayin idk
I have the same pool of heros, which I toss around until it clicks 😄
Plan on saving every stage if i remember from now on. Missed the first 3 stages of ch 20 as forgot about it.Otherwise have rest till now.
Yeah, same happened to me for ch20, forgot to save 20-8 until 20-20 i think
hard to forget to save now i am only doing 1 stage every 2 days while waiting out the rest of Lab reset for final Shem copy.
yeah im camping at ch21. waiting for M+ mats and also 240 shem before im even gonna try progressing
Can anyone help with 16-40 these are the lines I've tried so far. Shem has full Mythic gear at 3 or 4 stars each
i only have 2 M gear pieces lol, one for agi (lyca has it) and one for int (shem has it) both boots lol
@sharp hornet i think if you run lyca instead of nemora, you can probably beat it
@ʎɐpsənʇ#2955 damn it you were absolutely right thanks only took 4 tries lol
@sly sparrow I used the diamonds from the sigil event to buy Mythic gear for shem when it was discounted in lab or store. Got luck on a few. Plus I've saved my guild tokens and bought 2 pieces there so I think 5 pieces total now after finishing ch 16
Should I get nemora to mythic or get Lyca L+ and mythic when I have enough fodder. I use both in my lineup
@ruby rune Hey there! ^^
These type of questions are better fitted in #classic-questions , but I'll answer yours regardless. ^^
Lyca E+ and Lyca L+ both do the same job, Nemora's Mythic tier however might help you increase your level cap once reaching 5 Mythics, and Lyca won't be any less valid.
@wise merlin Oh sorry for posting in the wrong thread, and thanks for the answer
Welcome! Best of luck to you ^^
Ok I have pendant of force and all this dps and yet I get instantly destroyed... lucent vault btw
@random verge pendant of force is pretty bad relic. Also, CC is necessary, if you have tasi, use her with lyca backline instead of Rosa and Nara
Alright I'll try that, went for pendant because in the couple of vids I watched that's what the dudes had. Thanks @clear saddle
@random verge if ur unsure about relic choices, you can ask us 🙂
Shem has call and brutus has grace, I don't have blade yet lol
@random verge you have tasi?
Only E on this account
E is fine, use her and put eye on Shem and call on tasi
Alright I'll give it a go
Kk gl
Any idea?
@honest storm have you tried Sav behind brut, if you do that brut can lower their defense first and Sav hits a lot harder. Also do you have a tasi?
@broken egret For sure I have, yep
Try swapping her in for nemora and put call on her, that might do the trick. Let me know if you are able to burst down vlad before he ults with that setup
@broken egret
You can also try again with the tasi in for nem and brut up top again. You can also put saveas front bottom VS the vlad if he survives that fight?
Also did tasi get her ulti off?
@broken egret Most of time the hypogean elite, hypogean mage(top) and Isabella are still alive when fighting against saveas and then isabella just burst me down
Ye you might be stuck till you get a few more levels, the power diff between your and the enemy team is quite large. I cannot think of a different team for you that would work, but maybe someone else could
Thanks anyways @broken egret
Will just wait, until saveas is maybe 2-3 lvls higher 🙂
@honest storm power a bit low too. Can try either
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Sav
Or
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Sav
Lyca
Any way I can beat this before getting the fodder to make Saveas L+?
@unreal storm try and taking out saveas and putting in lyca. Also you got call on tasi or Belinda?
Should i do anything with this? (i'm waiting for shemira)
@pale kettle you could build another L+ fodder. you will need it anyway and can use it for shemira to go straight to M when you have the next copy
@pale kettle As you said once you get shemira copy id go straight to M
Even M+ when you make another fodder and alse feed the vedan
Gotcha :)
I tried every possibility I can imagine :/
Any ideas?
@worthy island run tasi instead of nemora?
Tasi dies instantly to silvina
Any advice for 20-26
@worthy island Try dropping lyca for Tasi, and switching gear around so that Nemora has the lowest defence if possible.
@high lantern I beat it with the exact some formation so I would keep trying
@indigo jolt tasi has lowest defense no matter what at m
Gotcha
@worthy island what stage is that?
@worthy island In that case, maybe try dropping nemora and lyca/brutus for tasi and rosalina. Make rosalina lowest defence. See if you can survive to tasi ult.
Just completed it! I forgot what lineup i used tho 😁
hows this lineup for pve, 1 brutus 2 antandra 3 nemora 4 lyca 5 tasi ?
i don't think i stand a chance
@stoic haven You done the rest of the fights? Generally power should be higher after getting all the relics.
yeah its my last thing to do @indigo jolt
@stoic haven Well you want to be using Saveas as hes yoru carry. and i would try athalia opposite eironn to interrupt his pull at the start of fight.
Sav
Hogan
Atahlia
Lucius/Brutus
Fawkes
Maybe,
anyone has screenshot for 21-60
anyone has level220 lineup to complete 21-60? head hurts like hell.
So is there a lineup that I could make with my current champions? Maybe a mauler team if it works or..? Thanks for help
Any tips?
4 khasos feels a little ridiculous.
@devout idol im a noob but I would try moving Athalia to top left, and swap Lucius with Brutus
Use Belinda an you'll get rid of them in no time
Athalia won't stop Silvina from her jump
Ah I see. Thought it would
I like Belinda, but she just feels weak to me right now.
Well, if the enemy is grouped together and Belinda has her ultimate ready, they can start praying lmao
She's like Shemira but with less damage and more burst
I see. It’s just getting her to survive that long though. When I try to use her she gets nuked
Help pls 10-36
I have used several formations, tried arden and saveas. Also thoran and estrilda couldnt be very much of use.
pretty sure shem cant front at that level
Need help
Baden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora @pure lodge
Someone could help me? Please
Nemora
Lucius
Lyca
Shemira
Fawkes @outer solstice
Any advice for me?
Don't put Shemira in front of Ogi. See if this works.
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Switch around Nemora and Tasi and test if swapping yields any results. @worthy island
Hmm
@outer solstice Does Silvina one shot your Nemora? And who does Fawkes coffin?
@ashen schooner no, she didnt. Fawkes gets back Verdan
@outer solstice Try switching Nemora and Fawkes placement, make sure you put Dura's Call on Shemira
@ashen schooner I haven’t put Call on Shemira, but I switched. Call on Shemira, Grace on Lucius, Eye on Lyca, drape on Nemora...
@outer solstice have you tried brutus in front of niru and saveas in bottom left?
Mmm. Switch Fawkes and Nemora back. Make sure that if Nemora isn't getting one shot by Silvina that she's about to charm the Isabella.
I'd try ezizh front top, brutus front bottom, lucius, shem and saveas
Hey can I get help with what's the beat lineup that can be made with these
Impossible tried so many times this battle but lose
@rough shore You need more damage. Maybe replace Rowan with Belinda. Move Nara to the middle backline to interrupt Ferael.
@rough shore i'd want to kill the niru and grez as soon as possible... so try brutus as lower frontline, and highest dps in bottom backline slot
The mid back line enemy guy sucks all 3 heroes of me and they die so fast
Stuck on 19-20 been stuck for 2 weeks have 68Million essences please help
@pale kettle brutus is the only one who can tank for more than 1sec at top. Lucius gets destroyed so whole team dies even faster fml
@rough shore try putting lucius in backline and introducing another tank/tasi to fill the other frontline slot?
Tried lucius in back aswell. Should I replace brutus with a ulmus instead?
You migt need a throwaway tank, brutus to soak dmg long enough for luc to ult, ideally you want a carrying dps (which would have been saveas normally), and rowan to mitigate dmg unimpeded
@limpid quail I am stuck so many times tried and restart to get better relics but still lose
I have mythic belinda but she's too slow to actually do damage
Argh, and shem doesn't ult fast enough?
Shemira and brutus is both on loan so can only use one 😅
A question if I reset all my strongest heroes will the lv of the enemies lower if I reset it?
Anyone think I can beat this?
Are you expecting to have level 1 heroes to fight? It scales off of your progression I believe anyway and you'll need to level your heroes regardless to even get a dent in them. Get the cocoon relic, it helps. @muted blaze
@rough shore... might be you have levelled past what you can do... possibly afk til more levels/get more pulls, build shem ASAP
So @ashen schooner the lv will no change then?
I don't believe so. @muted blaze
Rip then I had the cocoon relic but still didn’t won that time so can you look to my heroes to make a team of it to defeat it. This is the enemies position the heroes what I used there was last time
I tried so many times Lucent Vault... and you reallly need relics @muted blaze ... like sun n moon, ice e fire more legendary ones
Same tried so many times to but did you completed with friends heroes or your own heroes cuz I can’t use friends heroes haven’t it
I don’t get them both @outer solstice I get one of them one time I got both but then my heroes wasn’t good I had no good gear but now I have
I've been stuck on this level for quite a while. Any ideas on some strategies
Cocoon relic and something that can interrupt Eironn is the easiest way to pass (Athalia, Nara, etc., you can probably rent these if you have unlocked Mercenaries). Besides that, your team looks fine. The two biggest threats imo are Eironn pull and Safiya buff zone, with maybe Tasi banish and sleep as a medium priority.
Sorry for my bad English if I wrote something wrong
Ditto on what mods said. You need an eironn disrupter
I see now you have as profile a manaphy
With my own heroes @muted blaze I start the event and looked for relics before really start to fight. Legend relics you need that one which reduces life n the one like a spider 🕸... I got using those
@acoustic badge can you post all your heroes
Stuck on 20-33 helpp 🙈
Ok but what two or 1 legendary relics do you need really @outer solstice ? The cocoon and which one more?
These are who I currently have
should i do any f these?
@sturdy gulch if you dont use lyca and put shemira in front of silvana, shemira can crit silvana and stop her initial dmg so perfect should be
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius/brutus
Arden
Thank youu! Ima go try that
@muted blaze at least that one like 🕸 or thunder + elite relics like sun n moon + ice n fire
@ashen schooner the cocoon relic is important but which one more cuz all the battles what I did, my heroes doesn’t do so many damage so damage relics too I took instead damage defense so defense or damage?
Yo @muted blaze
Yo
@sturdy gulch Try moving Nemora to Lyca's spot or Shemira's spot. Need to charm one of them.
Am I high or have you leveled up like 10 horoes
Hey can I get some help for this (10-36)
@outer solstice I had the thunder one last time but didn’t do great damage they heal some up the enemies
Yea @dreamy mesa I was noob that moment i didn’t know what I did cuz that day I couldn’t choose which 5 heroes should I lv up
@blazing nexus if i were you i would reset my account and try mew server....
@wild tree First, I'd say switch the E Belinda you have on Crystal with the E+ one you own currently. I'd say if you would like to, ascend the Belinda to Legendary. Don't ascend anyone else.
Isn't my account but yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
That guy was it to me or who?
@muted blaze you should reset some of them if you got the resonating Crystal cause you don't need multiple heroes leveled up only five
Help
Ok but have5 slots can’t buy more @dreamy mesa
But besides that what can they do with these hero's @violet pecan
@ashen schooner who shoul be eaten?
@acoustic badge your shemira should be able to solo all enemiey ypu just need few CC to spport her
Arden
Athalia/ulmus/Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
@muted blaze I made spider thread + pendant of betrayal
of course not hogan right? so it should be mirael n morvus?
@wild tree I'd say Hogan Morvus. Mirael can be used as a slightly good carry.
alright. good team for belinda?
@dreamy mesa what team is good to defeat this team my problems are my heroes fast die and don’t do so much damage
@ashen schooner I guess I need to idle a little... when I made my Shemira M, I passe 1 chapter n half. And got stocked now
@muted blaze dm me
@wild tree As long as she has tanks defending her, she'll be an okay carry. Better late game. Someone to invest in for her is Rosaline though.
If you retire the two level 70 heroes that will let you level up some a bit too
Ok @dreamy mesa , @outer solstice I have this time in the chest the cocoon but don’t see other legendary maybe if I done fights
@ashen schooner alright. no rosaline yet
@muted blaze yah, you can only look for one legendary and the others Elite.... you will earn the another one after defeat this one here.
If u see ice + fire or moon + sun start the lucent vault
Put Saveas n Shemira at least 81 (to unlock lvls of his ultimate)
Any help would be pretty rad.
Hi, running out of ideas on 19-20 if anybody has some insight
Im planning on it but im 10k short on dusts
Try @versed canopy
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
The ones within the circle is my main team
Can someone help me I'm a little stuck
Stuck here.
Hello, anyone as a lineup for stage 16-12 ? I'm using the classic shemira brutus wilders
Fawkes
Hogan/luc
Kelthur
Brutus
Belinda
Call on Belinda or luc. Put it on luc if you need survivability
Eye on Belinda if call on luc
Try to kill vedan and saveas asap @cosmic kestrel
Kelthur should draw silvina from belinda
You need more than a bit of def either from def or CC since the enemies hight high attack
Can anyone help me out? Im completely stuck for days and its not even a boss stage.
Stage?
20-33
How do I beat this OP Saveas lol
@hardy pivot
Ill give it a try thanks
Can you 141 Belinda?
Maybe
Belinda
Brutus
Rosaline
Luc
Khasos
Hope khasos can interrupt ankhira so she won't cocoon anyone and Belinda can double bursts saveas and hypo dude while brutus tank @unreal storm
@still oar I don't have enough dust to upgrade my Belinda unfortunately
Halp
lineup for the final boss of the lucent vault?
@still oar thank you so much it worked, i can finally move one :)
see I’m having the same exact problem. no matter how strong my formation is the boss is overpowered and I should have beaten it by now
I can't see your relics but if you can get at least bringers you should be able to kill the boss in 2 battle by preparing at least 2 teams with full energy
For the first fight try kill eironn and safiya+tasi if you could
Hold on let's try use tasi as bait instead of nemora since she has the higher chance to survive silvina
Tasi
Thoran/lyca
Hendrik
Lucius
Belinda
Do you have dura's call. Try put call on luc or tasi
@pale kettle
I have dura's eye on Belinda, call on luc, and grace on hendrik
@lean ingot I can only suggest to hunt for a better relics. As start try to hunt for fire and ice bringers, sun and moon stones.
Check the chests and if you don't see good combination restart the VoW
Yeah that is a good arrangements for the relics.
@lean ingot I see no tasi. Would you like to borrow m tasi? I can check if mine still free?
I’m trying to get cocoon soul ship and blessing sure yeah ^^
ok what’s your user
Hol ip let me check
Silvina kills tasi in two hits, Hendrik jumps to tasi, then Luc and Thoran die quickly
@flint cairn can I join guild tomorrow or over 2 days?
Mines is SG_Kamlit @still oar
Dm me then tomorrow if I can or not
Send you dm @muted blaze
.p
Unfortunately she is already taken @lean ingot is l+ okay. My other alt has l+
@lapis sand if you have a nemora switch her out for tasi. To try to stun the enemy shemira. Move Arden to middle back
Stuck on 7-36 need advice
@dreamy mesa try switching niru out for Brutus and put the merc Arden in middle back move flame girl to bottom back line
Oh and put saveas in top back
;-; dang Brutus should survive longer
O wait didn’t account for the eirron try moving Arden to bottom middle and Brutus to back middle use your old tank in bottom front
@dreamy mesa Hey there, try and give this a shot -
Mirael
Kelthur
Niru
Thoran
Saveas
Relying on Mirael's poke against the Maulers and Saveas slowly getting rid of Skreg and Eironn might do the job.
@high oyster Maybe try swapping out Rosaline for Arden.
Or do that they know what they doing 😉
I am doubtful though, since Saveas is level 120.
You might need him at level 121 for it to work..
He's also almost dead 😬
I just am happy I started that game after all these new hero’s were in it I didn’t know they updated the lower levels
@dreamy mesa I'd recommend you to get him to level 121 ASAP, and aim for another E+ Saveas.
Ascension upgrades include plenty of boosts!
Yeah this event is gonna disappear before that
You need rng if that the case. Thoran was there just for the curse.
Try lyca see if her haste help @pale kettle.
Lyca can die after her haste but at least try to get tasi to ult
okay tysm
please help
Try Arden lyca nemora/tasi as backline
Can Arden roots safely?
Nemora should charm estrilda
@forest hedge
thats my current line up but no help 😦
Need a hand here not sure if this lineup is optimal to blast through the levels
Saveas isn't someone to put frontline. I'd suggest switching out Mehira to put Saveas there and put Brutus in the front with Hogan.
@forest hedge what's the relics arrangements sometimes it's just the relics.
Try call on Shem and get nemora to charm estrilda
Wilders really need rng
@ashen schooner switched them out but Brutus dies instantaneous and Hogan follows shortly after then the whole back line gets destroyed
Either Isabella or Vurk are who you need to charm. Could try switching out Tasi for Shemira to gain a little more damage.
10-36
Ya I think you need some more levels or some Mager CC
Once ur Shem gets to 200 you should pass that chap imo
What about me
Anything i can do here?
@cinder gust Focus on getting Shemira to level 200 first, then everyone else to 161 (and by everyone else I mean only Warek and Nemora)
Get Lucius and Golus out of your main 5 heroes and put Nemora and Warek out of the Crystal, replace their positions.
You're forcing your line to be stuck at level 161 solely because of that... -
Regardless, I believe you are, Shemira must be better protected than this, for her to retain enough energy.
@wise merlinok thanks for advice
Halp
@solid marten Yes! Give this a shot :
Nara
Brutus
Belinda
Hendrik
Nemora
Make sure Nemora charms Saveas.
Make sure Nara doesn't die too quick by Estrilda enough for Angelo to die by Nara.
Crits in this game is RNG, so if Morvus, or Estrilda crit too harshly, restart.
Saveas' damage should be nullified due to your Brutus.
Best of luck!
Thank you so much!
@pale kettle Replace Arden with Belinda, Arden isn't useful until level 141 in my personal opinion.
Additionally, give Tasi the better defense gear for her to gain enough energy to ult, while your Saveas will plow through them like the beast that he is.
Proposed formation :
Saveas
Lucius
Belinda
Seirus
Tasi.
Good luck!
Seirus? I’ll try but he doesn’t seem to work that good
Also, be sure to restart multiple times.
Tasi's RNG isn't major on your end but is a possibility regardless. ^^
Hendrik will also do the work if you rely on him more
Yea on 10-32 i had to restart a bunch
I’ll try that thanks
I gravitated towards Seirus since he'll be at a faction advantage.. then again.., Saveas.
Yeah, stick with Hendrik.
Who should i stick these on then
@pale kettle Eye to Saveas.
Grace to Hendrik (Or Lucius if it gives him enough health to cast his ult)
Call to Tasi
Alright thanks I’ll try
Ooooo yeh!!
Currently stuck here need a solid line up for it issue is 2nd frontliner and artifact help plz I have first 3
Brutus in front of Kaz, no Shemira in front of Ogi.
@ornate totem
Arden
Brutus
Shemira
Lucius
Lyca/Belinda
@velvet hearth
Arden
Estrilda/Brutus
Lyca
Estrilda
Shemira
@ashen schooner ok will try but my lyca suck so will go belinda!!
So brutus estrilda front line?
@ornate totem Lyca is mostly only good for her haste. It can sometimes clutch games you wouldn't be able to pass with a stronger hero you posses.
Oof yeah I meant to just leave Brutus not Brutus/Estrilda @velvet hearth
@wise merlin absolute slaughter
Shemira Carry? everyone keeps telling me saves until I can 161 shemira
Yes, she can even start frontlining at that point if she has the right backup/support. @velvet hearth
So who gets what of the 3 artifacts?
https://afkarena.net/heroes Shows all heroes and recommendations on what artifacts to give. Dura's Call is usually the Shemira go-to. @velvet hearth
@pale kettle 
The more I look at your might compared to enemy's and the fact you're not above level 120 yet in Crystal...
Makes your chances really low to beat, but I'm sure that after getting them all to level 121, you'll be able to pass.
However, there's always a pattern you'll be able to use and clutch the stage, I am just currently not entirely aware of one.
Good try though! Maybe try AFKing a little and trying over and over. ^^
Alright. Probably a few days until 121 in crystal as i just got serius there. Just shem left
Thanks for the help though
Anytime! 
Any help with 19-24? I can get tasi and shem ult together but its not enough..
Who does Tasi banish? Vurk? @supple stratus
Front khasos
By any chance, do you have a Nemora? And have you tried switching Shemira and Lyca?
only an epic nemora. she's getting obliterated. Yea tried swapping them, shemira dies too fast
Hmmm. Try putting
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Tasi
Shemira
and see if Tasi teleports fast enough to escape 2 shot by Saveas.
Since Tasi's banish is lock on the same target, I'd swap her's and Arden's positions.. Feel like rooting Saveas and Vurk will do you a lot.
tasi gets insta killed, will try swapping arden/tasi
hmm, working better but no t enough. i'll try it for a while and see. 😛
@supple stratus Make sure Shemira has Blade, not Grace.
Give Grace to Brutus
You'd want some seconds to pass before he pulls his Trump card (AKA Last Grasp)
edit. nvm i was running eye on brutus and grace on lyca. swap those?
Yep.
I'm not sure about Eye, but give Grace to Brutus and Blade to Shemira.
Drape can also work well on Brutus. Play around those 2
thanks, will try it. thought lyca need that extra dodge but i'll play around the artifacts
If you feel like something would do better than what I propose, by all means, be my guest ^^
This game is all trial and error
nope, already working better. i'll keep brutus on a defensive artifact 🙂
thanks 
@brittle maple
Like so :
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Tasi
Stuck on 10-32, Silvina kills everyone in my backline while Saveas shreds my frontline
Switch out Tasi for Nemora, put Belinda on the bottom with Nemora in middle backline to try to charm Saveas. She may be jumped on instantly though.
Who does Silvina jump on once the battle starts with your original lineup? Belinda?
nemora > saveas > belinda
Anyone able to give me advice on 19-20?
I'd probably try out switching Arden for Fawkes and see if the coffin saves you. With Call on Shemira, should be able to get some type of progress. @abstract shuttle
@abstract shuttle
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira
You'll win under those conditions :
Arden roots Shemira and Grezhul
Nemora charms Ferael
Ferael uses the ability "Terrorize" on himself and another 2
Shemira will cast her ultimate quickly and silence enemy Shemira or Isabella, both will do fine for you
Niru dies first
20-54 haaalp
I'd personally switch Tasi and Shemira (I believe that's what I did) and maybe put Shemira back middle even
Thanks @wise merlin and @ashen schooner I’ll try both out! It’s been 2 weeks
i usually using athalia when fight against arden, maybe try nara to abuse arden?
She's pretty good at keeping them suppressed so you could always try. @delicate trout
Pretty much what @ashen schooner have said ^
@bright geyser
i mean for @bright geyser, because he doesn't have athalia,
O.
Ouch Arden gets 1 shot, should’ve kept him E+
I still use him from time to time in Ch22. @abstract shuttle He's worth the investment.
Well I thought Luca being Mythic would help and worth the Arden sacrifice since I could make one Elite
That's fair. Usually though, she's useful for the haste and that's kind of it. The occasional high dodge to dodge Athalia is a good example of what else she can be okay at.
Any ideas?
Please post your heroes as well. If you have a Nemora, it would be best to put her in the bottom left backline to charm Saveas. @rigid dragon
whats the best team i can make
You could try using Nemora there to charm Saveas (reset until it works), or maybe add in your Kaz and hope her dodge can kill them. Who does Fawkes coffin? Vurk? @rigid dragon
He coffins khasos
Any suggestions ?
@rigid dragon Ah okay. You can also try putting Shemira in the middle backline and see if she can get that Saveas down at all.
@neon swallow swap lucius & shemira. Swap tasi for lyca
@pale kettle Right now, your team seems to be lacking another tank. Gorvo can be a good one for you. Belinda, Nemora, Shemira, and Lyca are good choices for your support and main damage carries.
@neon swallow Swap places Lucius and Shemira.
@abstract shuttle mate! Are u still trying to pass 19-20??
@ashen schooner do i use those five
@pale kettle Hogan Gorvo Belinda Lyca Rosaline would be good in your case.
Anyone recommend a formation for 17-24. Had been steam rolling through 17 then just hit this roadblock
@sharp hornet Did you try switching Shem and Brutus? Switch out Arden for Nemora then put her in the backline middle.
@sharp hornet remember! If u see ferael - u should charm him. Do it and u will win
@lapis sand Does Nemora have time to get her charm off? Try switching Arden out for Tasi.
@ashen schooner nope she gets one shot immediatelg
@sand kindle nemora gets one shot immediately
@ashen schooner kinda not really. When I put in Arden he csnt get snarl off
@sharp hornet Silva should jump on arden or on tasi. Remove gears if needed. Also swap shem&brut. Hero which get hit by Silvia should stay before brut
It’s better if she jump on tasi.
@sand kindle I just got luck rng idk how it went through. Nemora didn't charm anyone. Shem just finally carried again
@sharp hornet gz!
Thxs. Got shem to M+ with full 3*M gear and she has been carrying hard last 12 hours lol.
Been stuck here for a little bit. Any thoughts on my lineup? I've messed around with combinations of GB and Wilders too, but I just get rolled
Best all around team out of my heroes?
Okay now this fight is annoying and I've tried every differnet back line combo with arden, tasi, lyca and nemora I could think of
@lapis sand Try Tasi instead of Nemora or Arden there, and make sure your artifacts are in place
@signal pumice I'd start by taking Belinda and the goth girl back to 140 if you have enough dust to take shem over 161, with mythic gear she becomes a tank
@sweet pasture I'd try something like Lucia's Brutas, Belinda, Rosaline, Saveas
@signal pumice
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Reset until Saveas is charmed.
@sweet pasture Lucius and Hogan tank frontlines, Belinda Saveas Rosaline backline. Needs support and crowd control later.
@sharp hornet Switch Arden and Nemora. Reset until Nemora charms Arden.
Ok thanks @signal pumice
@sharp hornet I hadn't thougt of that. Thanks! Just need dust to get Shem to 161
@worthy bane what artifacts shud I use
@signal pumice even reset saevas down to 140 if need be honestly.
@lapis sand What do you have atm?
@worthy bane
@signal pumice I'd use the meta team going forward. Shem, Brutus and a backline combo of lyca, tasi, arden and nemora. Arden needs to be 141 though
Could always try switching Call from Tasi to Rosaline. More Shemira ults that way.
@lapis sand I'd go Drape on Brutus, Eye on Lyca/Arden, Blade on Shem, Call on Tasi, and Grace on the 5th member
16-12 any idea
Any line up for 9-16?
@plush kelp Try with Fawkes
@lofty depot ok
Please help none of it is working
@old ore Shemira instead of Hogan or the Mauler I can't remember the name of
No bottom left
Yes that's the one
Remove Hogan and put Shem front and try twins at the back
Just realized your Shem is only 119, but you can try at least
Silvana vs Vedan for carry?
Early mid or late game?
120
I need some help, I'm stuck on 6-4 and can't go anywhere
@warm rain Neither haha, but seriously I would just try whatever works best, personally I used Vedan for a long time but I don't use either of them now
@errant oracle Put some heroes on your crystal. Place fire girl in mid back, switch place on horse girl and Hogan
@lofty depot nope, still ate shit even with that line up
Stuck at 7-40 need advice
Well shit, guess you gotta AFK some more and level your heroes, or just keep trying different combos
@high oyster put Belinda at the back and Hogan front, remove Rosaline and put Saveas
Also start leveling Saveas instead of Belinda
@lofty depot I already have Hogan, Rosaline, and Mirael on crystal
Oh shit didn't see that, try Vedan instead of Rosaline
Yeah, that's not working either, the placement earlier worked better
Hey guys! Just started 2 days ago and getting hard stuck in a chapter and also as to which team I should actually build. I’ve reset them...could anyone recommend a team for me please ❤️❤️
Hmm I don't know then I personally haven't used Rosaline, is Nemora surviving or dying quickly?
These are all the heroes I've got, would switching to any of these work better?
@errant oracle Put everything you got into Shemira, level up Lyca as well
So i just made my shemira legendary
@mental trench teams depend on what enemies your facing etc so it's hard to just give you one team you need to switch it up
And sorry, for clarity I’m 6-20 and heroes are roughly 75 normally
@lofty depot ah I see, is there no heroes in particular I should focus on in my setup? I keep seeing mixed things on the web, about combo’ing Factions, but also requiring a Healer etc. Nemora has been a godsend for me so far for example, I’m struggling for who to put on front line and which Heroes are solid DPS
@old ore Nice, Shem, Brutus, Saveas, Nemora and twins should be a good team
And @mental trench level Saveas as your carry for now, twins, Arden, Fawkes and Ferael are good too, Hogan is a good tank early game as well
Should I power level him do you think? Or have them even? I have seen all over he’s a great carry
Sorry guys wrong chatroom
I would level one carry and keep the others lower
@violet pecan lol no problem haha
Ok, he is a hybrid hero right? Or should I keep him in the back?
Keep him in the back and use Hogan and horse girl in the front
Yeah no, i keep eating shit, that kaz fucking sucks and nemora can go fling off a cliff, im done. Its a stupid wall, and im not paying money
Thanks so much dude! I’ll no doubt be back for more help, really appreciate that ❤️❤️
@old ore All you need to do is to afk and level up, believe me a few levels can be a BIG difference
You need to level a carry, don't level everyone evenly
I can't level anyone up, it's epic+ that's the level limit, the only one now is my shem with Legendary
@lofty depot that was worse ☹️
Then you just wait, do the daily quests, labyrinth etc until you get a good drop, you can buy Shemira for lab coins and ascend her
@errant oracle You need to level up Shemira as your carry, keep the others lower and push her as high as you can
Would like help beating 16 40 all advice is taken
@lofty depot so like level all them to 61 and put everything else into Shamira?
@lofty depot Shemira isn't a very good carry early, I would reccomend building a saveas as a carry to 160 @errant oracle . Either way, you need a hero +20-40 levels over the others
I was just gonna say Saveas but I didn't see him in the list people are uploading so many pictures so I'm getting confused and mixing them up
@lofty depot Even if you dont have him hes easy to build quickly as he comes as R as well
I only have a Rare+ Saveas oof
Yeah you only had 2 copies right?
should be able to make an E+ fast
Once you can get Shemira to 141 (or 161 even better) she is amazing
If you can get Saveas for now he is better
@river gazelle
Try this:
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
If shemira is having a hard time surviving to ult you can try switching her w/lyca
Certain artifact lineup?
Call- Nemora
Eye- Arden
Drape- Lyca
Blade- Shemira
Grace- Brutus
You could have grace on shemira to make her tankier and put blade on brutus instead
Looks like i fucked myself... I hate this so much, now I'm gonna suffer in arena like a dud
@mild wing So what's my best team setup with what I have?
@old ore If you hit a wall just AFK for like 2 days and get some sweet xp
I've got the E Saveas now, I'll work on getting him to E+
And what do i spend it on? I can afk for 2 weeks just like i did for now and what can i do? There's nothing here...
Shemira to 141 is a good start
She gets good at 141 and very good at 161, Saveas is still good as well
What's my best team setup for 6-4?
I can't, literally can't 141 her, she's not L+
How many lab coins you got?
25k
Well, you need to get some fodder
No I meant from summons
I hope this doesn't sound insensitive but being stuck is a big part of the game, i'm at ch 20 and i get stuck for a couple weeks every now and then, it's a huge test of patience but it makes beating the stage feel a lot more rewarding in the end 🙂
Ah yes, with my elite 100 team, that i can beat every floor of lab. Plus, with my expensive spending of 0$ I'm sure to get lots of fodder...
Once you get enough fodder, essence, or exp to break past an ascension tier or every 20 levels, it makes a massive difference and you'll be able to progress quite a bit
I agree with Cordelia. Sometimes there just isn't anything you can do at the moment, you just have to wait, right now I don't think a specific lineup or xp will save you, you need more fodder so you can ascend and level them up
But i fucked myself with my leveling right now. Getting back to everything 120 is gonna take months...
What about me? I'm trying to setup my team to have the carry but not sure who to use
@old ore what? Why?
Saveas @errant oracle
@steel moat thank you it worked
@errant oracle is that your full hero list or is saveas the only hero you have above level 1?
Because of this bs
That's my full hero list, I reset them all to have a carry that's +20-40 like they said, and yeah I have Saveas but who else on my team should I use for 6-4?
Probably estrilda and hogan front, belinda nemora and saveas in the back
@old ore I don't see the problem? You only gotta level 2 heroes 20 levels and you have everyone at 120
It doesn't take that long to get that kind of xp
446/minute
How much is it for 100 > 120? Is there a calculator online or a chart anywhere?
How much is it for one level?
This is a hero Level Calculator/Planner for AFK Arena. Find out exactly how many resources you need to level your heroes!
How do i check my essence per hour?
Would take you about 4 1/2 days, and even then you can't even level Shem to 141 so you need more fodder anyways
Ok so what level should I stop? Then start leveling Saveas?
Basically the calculator said i need 5 days. How do i get more fodder though? And what about lab? That's gonna be hard af right now
I'd probably push your top 5 to at least level 70 and then put the rest of your exp into saveas
@old ore And you still need the fodder. Also 5 days without doing ANYTHING else in the game that gives exp
Yeah, i guess, but lab is gonna be a bitch right about now plus i suck at it anyway
By the way, sometimes I've been stuck on a level for almost 2 weeks
I've been stuck on this for 3 weeks now, don't want to extend it for 3 more
Are you doing the maximum possible battles to try and get as many relics as you can?
This is where I ended up, hope it works, thanks guys!
@steel moat yes, but i struggle, because i don't have good heroes, not a tasi or even lucius. I always go for red banners, but i eat shit around floor 2
@errant oracle Looks good, personally I would put Lyca and Shem in crystal, but that's just me
Can somebody help with wrizz and soren lineup?
I got crushed, is it placement, or levels and I should just AFK more?
@old ore I always go for the first three wagons to get heroes, and then I try to make the path so I can pick up the other ones as well if I don't get any good heroes in the first 3
@errant oracle Try switching positions, like Saveas in mid, Hogan top etc, see what works best
I guess... Still, wish it was easier for f2p players, but i get they need to also make money
@old ore you could put that elite arden to use, he has a really good crowd control ability, nemora, rosaline, and brutus are also good
@errant oracle i think you may be be a bit underleveled, once your formation hits about 65k you should be all set
Aha! That worked! I got it, but I feel like I should get them up to base 81 and then the rest into Saveas ya?
@old ore I'm at chapter 8 with my F2P alt I made like barely 2 weeks ago, you just need some good rng!
My formation is at 115k right now @steel moat
@old ridge for wrizz
Raine
Shemira
Belinda
Brutus
Lucius
For Soren
Lucius
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Baden
Wait, NVM it's 57k I'm dumb
@frosty moss what stage is that?
It's ok XD
@steel moat big thanks dude 🤗
20-24
Np!
I just beat that one
@frosty moss
Did she jump on ur nemora?
@errant oracle As we said before, if you hit a wall just AFK for a few days, sometimes you just can't push it no matter what you do so don't get frustrated!
I progress like 1 stage every 4 days right now lol, if I'm lucky.. I need more fodder
She went for Tasi
Help pls 16-12
@violet pecan
@plush kelp
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
@steel moat ty
Please help!!! Idk what to do
@lapis sand
@steel moat hownshud my placement look
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
The hope is that arden doesn't root your frontline/gets silenced and ogi gets charmed
I’m not too clued in on team comps, what would be the ideal comp from who I have so far?
@warm rain Brutus Saveas front, Nemora Lyca Arden back would be very strong. Ideally you want saveas +20-40 overlevelled to carry.
But youd have to get him to L/L+ first
@mild wing thanks a lot, yeah I’m waiting to get him to legendary, I was thinking of getting Raine and Belinda to legendary and using them since I heard that they’re pretty strong together but I think that’s for later on in the game
Could use some advice here
Belinda is more of a later game, Lyca, Tasi, Nemora/.Arden are extremely strong backline and Saveas is the strongest carry up to 160. After 161 Shemira becomes the best carry. You want to buy her from the labyrinth and start building up @warm rain
Need advise.
What is the best line up in game? Out of curiosity of who to aim for?
The best lineup is considered to be shemira, brutus, nemora, tasi, and lyca, although you can swap in arden for nemora up until around ch 20 or so
Hm stuck, suggestions 18-24
In that order 1-5 yeah?
@sharp hornet here was my lineup for that stage, although you would use brutus in place of estrilda
@pale kettle For that team positions within the frontline and the backline can be altered depending on the stage, also sometimes shemira has to be in the backline so she can survive (usually switched with lyca)
@steel moat remember who you placed where?
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
I might need more levels on my other peeps
Suggestions please :x
So what would you say to do with this team @steel moat
I'd probably run hogan and estrilda in the front, then arden, tasi, and saveas/shemira in the back
@novel fulcrum how about this?
Nemora
Brutus
Lucius
Saveas
Tasi
The goal is to charm saveas to take some of the damage off of your team
brutus got blown through too quickly 😦
Err what about switching him and lucius?
lucius got blown through even faster
Oh I didn't notice your arden
You could try this
Nemora
Brutus/Lucius
Arden
Saveas
Tasi
gotta wait till tmrw for resonating crystal
Hi sorry stuck on 9-20 is it just levels or can the formation be of help? Thanks
I think having your top 5 above 121 will help quite a bit, you may want to reset rosaline and pump all her levels into shemira so you can break the 120 level cap @novel fulcrum
I think you might be able to do it @jaunty glade
Tasi
Saveas
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Sweet I'll try that thx
You'll have to put arden in the resonating crystal tho 😅
I need some help im stuck on 7-8
@knotty ice try saveas where belinda is and put your last mauler in front. the 4 maulers should give you a boost
It worked, thank you
@knotty ice glad to hear it! :)
Any suggestions?
@zinc summit put some characters on your resonating crystal and you should be good. I'd focus on gbs since you have the most from that faction
@thick wedge drop tasi. Nemora middle back charm fareal. Reset till charm works. Shem Brutus front. Other than nemora.. other 2 Wilders cc you pick
@pale kettle who is gbs?
Hey ! I'm stuck on 12-16 is it just levels or can the formation be of help? Thanks
@foggy token problem is that your dps is underlevelled, and its best to have it overlevelled. but in this case, you are ascension capped, shem and saveas are both only L. might have to afk a bit for this. Also, would be good to try and get an arden in your crystal, he's super useful
@clear saddle Oh thx, I replace who by arden ? Tasi ?
@inland kite Move Nemora to middle backline, switch out Fawkes for Shemira.
Managed to pass it lmao
I used lyca to give thane that boost to do his neverending ult
this chapter in general is kinda frustrating
though since i involve wilders, ofc its gonna be since its the level of rng too
17-6 help
@zinc summit graveborn heroes
@foggy token replace nemora with arden
🙏
@broken granite no brutus? seems overkill on the cc
@broken granite Would try switching Tasi and Nem maybe to charm the Vurk.
yep, he will toss his poison on an ally, hes your best charm target
Id put brutus with shem or lyca behind him laneing ulmus and try to burst em
The main point of CC is to stop enemy tasi from banishing my shem every 0.000001s cause she never gets to ult
In general what should my lineup be with this?
@unreal arrow Go to #classic-questions and read the pin about ascending to L, it will help you in the lohg run, that said I would do saveas brutus front and tasi lyca arden back
ascend arden and get him to 141 asap at L+ and overlevel Saveas
get him to L+ 160 before your other heroes
Sounds good. Should I prioritize Arden L+ before tasi L+ then? Just waiting on fodder for both :(. The graveborn Ls were a bad click while drinking :(
Any ideas? Cause I keep failing and I don’t know how to get through :T
@cold marten Do you have tasi ult or mehira ult charged?
Nope I don’t have either charged up
Drop nemora then, and put athalia opposite eironn.
But everyone dies before anything can happen and Nemora saves Brutus for a little longer 🤔 but I will try that and see if I can break through
If athalia doesnt interrupt eironn pull fast enough, include lyca in lineup.
She does interrupt him but not long enough to make it worth it
Worth trying hard mode Lab wrizz with this? He was adjusted to 151 but I couldn’t dent him .
Missing about 4 R+ fodder to L+ Saveas so stuck with shemira for now. Can L+ her after shop reset
That was a fail lol now I have to restart again cause I died :3
@wide breach If you couldnt dent him then unlikely can I see your relics
Had poison but couldn’t live through the bombs, think shemira just applies it too slowly