#lineup-help
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@tawny jewel i see. would saveas work well on chapter 8 if only elite+? im stuck on 8-12 and currently on my 5th day so im a bit short of exp but i wonder if a overleveled saveas can shred them even at elite+ only?
I'd wait for 2 more E GB fodders then. Grez is a billion times better than numisu
im too short on mauler fodder and too many lb fodder
@winter arrow saveas needs to be 20-40 lvls above the rest of your team. Thats how he shines
And then youd be able to make brut M to push campaign
Thanks for the tip. I will hold off on buying Numisu copies then.
@tawny jewel why only those two, for their self-heals?
@tawny jewel i see. ill try it out as soon as i got my 1 last blue mauler to E+ my saveas
@thanks for the input
@plush gate which 2?
@winter arrow saveas carry till ch 14 max hes good
@tawny jewel shemira and saveas as carry
@plush gate yea they are just reliable
@tawny jewel would it be worth it if i spend my faction scrolls on maulers just to have fodder on my saveas? or better use it on light bringers till i get lucius?
@winter arrow no dont. Use them on wilders as they are the best faction. I used on lbs and i regret it now
@tawny jewel what about ulmus and Lucius? Or are those two just the generally accepted ones?
@plush gate they are tanks like brutus. Carries are
Belinda shemira saveas eironn thane
@tawny jewel i see. for the wilder trio right? was lyca still necessary or substitutable?
@tawny jewel would it be more advantageous then to swap to one of the other traditional carries?
The silvina murders my nemora, and then ults and kills arden in 1 hit. And them the combined attack overpowers both my lucious and nemora
@winter arrow yea wilder trio is op. I can beat stages with double my power level
@plush gate i mean it would be nice if you started buying shemiras fron lab store
@tawny jewel i see. thanks. ill try to invest on it somehow then. i already have nemora arden tasi. just lacking lyca
Anyone? 😪 stuck for 6 days now. Frontrow dies instandly
@winter arrow lyca is a must in some stages
@worthy grove
Belinda
Estrilda
Rownan
Brutus
Rosa
Ignored again 3rd time now niice
How can I get all the chests and not lose all my heroes
@regal swallow why did you make belinda mythic
Yea u should’ve maxed her at l+ after u beat 10
is she not good? Someone told me to 😬😬
@tawny jewel Hope this helps
Not good enough to ascend to mythic
Ascend to epic? What are you talking about
@regal swallow i did the same mistake. What if you never get a belinda copy ever again? You will be stuck at mytic and you will have wasted fodder
How can I win this?
@uncut sapphire thanks bro
The ankhira and Golus are my problems they do much damage but can’t defeat them
@tawny jewel so how should I ascend, I know I shouldn’t make any L and I should wait until can make them L+
Im stuck on 6-28, what should i work on?
@regal swallow yup. Same goes for l+ to ascended
@tawny jewel so I should wait for an e+ copy each time before getting them higher?
@tawny jewel doesnt work tho.. gonna try something out
@knotty ice level up ur heros
Need some help
Don’t upgrade common heroes
You shouldn’t even keep them
I know it was in the begin
Go retire them then
@regal swallow ideally you’d wait so you could take them to ascended but for your first 5 especially you want them to be ones you can level to ascended very easily like in my case I have belinda mythic and it was a mistake, I rushed it because ooh shiny red hero. Khasos/nem shop heroes and only a couple off from ascended, tasi I literally have extra extra copies of her past whats needed for ascended, belinda was the mistake because I may not be able to ascend her in the near future but I have a contingency plan with raine/fawkes that should be able to ascend a lb hero for me from a shop hero. Fodder is precious and you want to be strategic with who gets ascended so you can best progress and not lock yourself at a wall at 200 because you can’t ascend anyone
But this line of convo is more for #classic-questions anyways
I keep them for them for the bounty board
If I am lv 4 bounty board (almost) then don’t need the common
U can use better heroes than thm
@pale kettle what to do cuz I am stuck on the lv
Ok
@pale kettle post the rest of your heroes please
@muted blaze saveas should be lvl 90-100
@pale kettle
Tasi
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Try that, that’s what I used to beat it I believe, or you could try 4 wilder which would put shem in Brutus’ spot and nemora backline
Lyca in frontline ?
Yeah lyca against ogi
get 1 shot
She’s just there to distract ogi, she doesn’t have to take a lot of hits
no i mean they all get 1 shot from arden bind
Ah, try swapping tasi and arden, hopefully your arden should root him first, you may need to retry a bit to get him to do that, but that should be what you need to get it
Who does tasi sleep?
noone tasi gets 1 shot
Any advice?
Try nemora instead of tasi so she can charm ira
tasi sleep lyca
Yeah definitely try with nemora if she’s only sleeping lyca, unless she’s reliably getting her ult off for you
A lot of wilder strats are very rng dependent lol you gotta retry a good bit of the time to get the right course of events to win, I literally was retrying a stage for hours on end the other night so I could beat it
arden actually binded arden
What should i do? I’ve been stuck on this for a couple days
Yeah your arden has to root him for you to get it otherwise your heroes are getting nuked without doing anything back
Try Shemira/brutus front nemora/lyca/arden back and see how that goes, ideally nemora charms vurk since he can be a pain and arden should root several for you
You may swap nemora with tasi though depending on how that goes
any ideas? if it goes good for me the saveas ends up 1v1 against the isa in the end and gets fucked cuz he is low etc :/
I'm getting a bit stuck everywhere at the moment, can anyone advise as to the best lineups for each thing, I'm on chapter 9-12, kings tower 109, and can't get past about 3/4 fights in Rest In Peace.
Here's my heroes:
this is the rest of my heroes
@pale kettle
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Try that, you may need to retry some the goal is for arden to root estrilda(that’s why we have lyca) and hopefully that should give shem time to get up and rolling
Any ideas? Silvina kills my whole backrow
@real palm Try this
Lyca meat shield?
Stuck on 9-36 any ideas?
i use lyca frontline all the time. dodge tanks work yo
Any tips to pass 7-36?
@real palm Now that I think about it your Tasi may be too weak at Elite and get one shot :/
Nah Keryl she survives and I won
Oh nice ! Congrats
Maybe
Lyca
Golus
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
Really not sure about that though. Btw you may want to read the pinned posts in #classic-questions before you start ascending everyone to Legendary
@pallid lake thanks i finished ch14
@pale kettle awesome congrats!
Any idea if i can do the Solar Plane with these heroes, i feel like i can't idk
@pale kettle i think you can only 100% solar plane with the right relics. e.g. fire / ice bringer + kaz relic and some other stuff
Alright, ill look for them
@pale kettle even ppl who are in ch.22 struggle w some of the bosses. That PoT can smd
Yeah its really rough :/
I'm at 70.8% myself cause I just got all the piles of gold that only required me to fight common camps + 2 elite camps (I BARELY won the 2nd one)
And I got 220 A shem, 200M+ brut, 200 2* nem, 180 1* tasi and 180 M lyca
I just wanna hit 60% so i can unlock the nextone tbh
U can get 70.8% like me if u beat these 2 camps (the ones next to yellow seal) + all common camps
Ill give it a try thanks
Am now stuck
Have you tried Fawkes or Belinda instead of Shem ?
^ I would try both of those see how it works, will give you the 3 lb bonus and fawkes is good vs all the brutus in that ch
What other champ should I use on the place of Estrilda?
I have passed this stage already but asking in general. Luci or gorvo for tank? If luci should i make him L or beli to M+
Still stuck at 16-40, any idea please?
@pale kettle You should stop ascending everyone to L, read the pinned posts in #classic-questions
Lucius is a better tank btw
@turbid fern swap shem and lyca and put lyca in front of ogi, brutus in front of kaz, see how that goes you may need to retry a bit but it should work
Im little bit impatient😁
Been Stuck here for a while please help me peeps
@pallid lake Will try, thank you
@pale kettle Your impatience will slow you down later
Stuck. Plz help lol
Any idea for 15-12
@brittle maple @plush kelp we need to see all heroes not just the 5 you're choosing to use
Sorry, rest of the heroes
@plush kelp
This might be too obvious, but have you tried swapping your Ulmus out for Brutus? @brittle maple
@fleet kernel yeah, didn’t fare much better lol. Lost the 5% hp bonus and things just melted
What about Brutus and Ulmus frontline and Sav behind Brutus then ? Instead of Nem
@uncut sapphire i also need/want better luci for labyrinth
@uncut sapphire I’ll give it a shot
@brittle maple maybe try
Nemora
Khasos/Ulmus
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
You might just need a few more levels instead of different setups
@pallid lake Doesn't work well after 100 attempts. I get nuked every time the ennemi has a chance to ulti and their arden keeps rooting me
Stuck on 11-28, any tips?
Stuck here for about a week 12-28 please help me 🥺
What's a good lineup for the Peaks Of Time Rest In Peace
This is literally impossible to beat. I just can’t do any damage or stay alive. Wtf is this bs? Look at the overall battle strength too!!! How is it lower and defeating me. This is the final boss in the lucent vault btw
@azure shadow what kind of relics you got
Stuck at 6-36 any advice
Getting yeeted like a mf
Front Belinda Estrilda, Back Sav, Luc, Fawkes ?
Floor 78 wilder help
Swap your nemora with arden so she can mind control brutus
@supple stratus
@azure shadow i used for that one
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Hendrik
Sveus
Might’ve swapped hendrik and lucius or sveus and belinda i beat it a while ago. I had to beat all the other camps first though cuz I couldn’t beat it without relics
thx, at least same heroes. lets give it a go
You need tasi to be able to survive 1 sav spear.
I REALLYY need help on this one stage 9-20
yea she does
Any help my dudes please love you all
this turns the fight into full chaos. but i'll try it a bit.
9-20 took me a day or 2 @unreal storm
I used i think
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Hendrik
Sveus
Give that a go but swap hendrik for brutus
@supple stratus Just a matter of charming Sav twice in a row i believe, if your top half survives as he will kill of ulmus and nem for you.
I require the advice
16-40, need some help on this one. Everyone I use just gets melted no matter what formation I use..
@pale kettle I don't have a Lucius sadly
Should I ascend Antandra or keep trying I pull some more Brutus?
Someone help me please
I'm stuck on 17-32, I also would like to have a 3 lightbearer team with Rowan, any thoughts? Or should I aim for a different faction/units.
@modest lintel try 1-5 lyca brutus tasi shemira arden
You need your arden to get his root off first and probably tasi to ult
@pallid lake I'll give that one a try. Thank you
Oh i looked at the wrong picture.
Try
Belinda/sveus
Ulmus
Rosaline
Brutus
Belinda/sveus
Or:
Sveus
Brutus
Arden
Ulmus
Tasi
@unreal storm
@regal swallow keep pushing for Shemira. Use up fodder after she has become Legnedary +
What team should I use to beat this level, please help me, I’ve been stuck on 12-28 for so long 🥺😭
@regal swallow try
Sveus
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Idk if it will work tho
@pale kettle not even close 
Hm keep trying different things I don’t remember what i did
@pale kettle
Hm idk i was just throwing something out there I haven’t beaten it yet
:/
Hi, I have this team. Saveas and Rosaline aren't greaty synergy and I want to swap her. Could you tell me, what champ should I use in exchange of her?
@vagrant marten Either Belinda or Shemira.
Any idea for 16-40 please?
Any ideas?
Switch Arden out for Nemora, swap Shemira and Brutus. If Ogi keeps throwing Shemira too much, switch Tasi in frontline with Shemira middle backline and Lyca top backline. @turbid fern
@ashen schooner ok I'll try that, thank you
@cinder crag Nemora bot backline to charm Shemira, move Shemira where Brutus is.
They have way too much cc for Shem to handle ( classic Wilders ) guess I am stuck for good
Need help figuring out the best lineup with these heroes
Also nem charms Shem which unable her to use ult damn Wilders are the worst
Currently stuck on 8-32
can someone please help me out?? 12-36 but my team comp isn’t doing good against this team
Can anyone recommend a solution?
What should I aim to build? and whats my best line-up?
Stuck for a week now, getting so frustrated on the spell locks
Any body got screen shot of 20-33 ? Cuz i can't beat it
Stuck here for a week any ideas ??
You are quite underleveled tbh
If I reset Belinda and get my Arden to 141 will that be a big help?
Or what should I do, I can reset ppl and put some on Crystal? Any ideas?
I would arden over rowan for more cc and his 141 roots is very good, worth a try
Any ideas of the best team comps?
Campain 9-20
Anyone else have any advice here, I'm hard stuck
I got stuck same lvl as @unreal storm
@unreal storm can you burst down vegan with Brutus and saveas quickly?
How do you guys do it
@cinder crag yeah the main problem is Grezhul
Generally your priority number one is Vedan then vurk you might want to use tasi instead of Ulmus and will have to sacrifice lyca also I don't believe grez can actually be more of a nuisance than Vedan anyways try it Vedan with his ult is usually the target number one
Help
Who does Fawkes coffin ?
What
http://prntscr.com/p02tc6 any1 know if i should switch my lucius and roamer or shamira and roamer so that i can level romaer past 100?
Who does Fawkes trap with his coffin ability?
Uh lemme check
Switch Shem with Brutus , Brutus in front of saveas the rest stays after dealing with upper enemies you should be dealing with Brutus , in that case wait for his shield to pop and use Fawkes ult
He coffins the boss The lion dude
Ok great Brutus is trapped then it should work
Does axe throwing guy one shots Fawkes ? İn that case use your athalia to jump on him and use same strategy also don't use fawkes ult the moment lion dude's shield pops
No It does if hes low
Did you switch Shem with Brutus?
uh no
Do now and try again and remember to use Fawkes ult when Brutus ' immunity shield pops
@cinder crag the reason the Grezhul is such a problem is because of the sheilds
K
After dealing with Vedan you should be able to kill him I mean that's what I did in those stages either Niru or Vedan as priority number 1
Like this The line up?
Uhm it's awesome
help
Help 8-20
Yeah @balmy hinge did you win?
Also switch brutus with saveas Brutus needs to be in front line
@limpid pewter Overlevel your saveas, you shouldn't be leveling evenly
What about me
Try 120 saveas
Uhh
what about me?
During early game saveas is better than Shem
@vague idol You honestly might just need soem afk time to level more youre very under
İf you can use Saveas+ Brutus to burst down Vedan first then the rest will be ez especially if tasi can ult @vague idol
Where do I put my save as
Though what you say it also true @mild wing
@cinder crag change saveas for?
I donno, move him around and see what works, id put him in the front to start
Eironn but that might not work cuz saveas stuck at 100 lvl due to crystal
19-6 halp
For that to work you might have to sacrifice lyca though
Help
Remove Shem and use saveas , can you burst down Vedan or niru?
@mild wing what abut squad, whats the best i can create now?
İf you have Brutus with his armor reduction skill your saveas will melt them do you have him?
I WON YES FINNALY
I am happy that it worked congrats @balmy hinge
@vague idol If you can ascend saveas it will help greatly, hes the best to have overlevelled until 160, brutus not super great until 141
WHAT ABOUT ME
Read what I said above those stages all comes down to if you can burst down Niru or Vedan asap
@pale kettle You put in the saveas that was my suggestion, check suggested taking out shem, you can try rose or twins there maybe for support, try to position to kill niru or vedan quickly
okay @cinder crag @mild wing thanks for help
Thnx alot dude
Any advice?
@knotty ice Take out serius put in saveas, overlevel him, he is the carry
Ok
@knotty ice He should be capped above your team
Ight
No clue who to level and have on the crystal. Everything survives on the enemy team in this fight Lucius can’t even get his ult off
@jade folio Try arden for lucius for root and position saveas so he dps niru, niru need to die fast
Hmmmmm
@pale kettle We gave you our best advice on your question
Arden gets one shot by silvina and doesn’t even get his roots off
Any other idea for 16-40 please ? I'm still struggling no matter what I try >:
@turbid fern Is a hard stage, your formation looks fine, you might just need more levels honestly
Any idea for 9-36? I end up getting slaughters pretty fast right now.
@mild wing It's what I'm thinking and get better as I lvl up Brutus.
@turbid fern Not the best answer, but often is the right one
I keep getting killed fast
Saveas is good when he is overlevelled
I barely have any exp :/
Reset belinda and put saveas at 100, worth a try
Ok
I'm hard stuck
Any help please guys
Please some help
@strange glen WHy is shem athalias target?
any ideas what best positioning would be? or i might just have to wait for more levels on my saveas
@strange glen
Try
Nara
Thoran/Kelthur
Shem
Grez
Kelthur/thoran
Any idea?
Still stuck help appreciated
@mild wing
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I have two more slots at the resonating crystal to fill. Just wasn't sure who to use it on.
@golden glacier Try saveas brutus front and tasi lyca arden back, play around with the order a little
Any ideas, I’m willing to revert heroes to level others and there are spaces on the crystal please help me I’ve been stuck for at least a week
@mild wing Will do. Thanks!
@pale kettle yeah Arden usually gets a root of then tends to be blown up
Guys, can i progress without breaking through the 140 level cap? Stuck for almost 2 weeks now
@pale kettle swapped Hogan out for shem and seemed to work! Thanks for help
@wise stream use
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
@wise stream if that doesn't work...try
Nemora
Saveas/Estrilda
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Guys help me please
@fleet kernel let me try those combos
Please help lmao
@fleet kernel not even close im afraid
18-12 .... any idea ?
So I'm trying to think of a new arena line-up but I'm drawing blanks with what I have.
or what I should build towards to make it better
Stuck on 15-40 any advice?
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi @tepid current
Really no Brutus?
Nope pure RNG baby 
I can get my tasi to L+, should I do so? I was gonna save to get lyca or nemora to mythic first as soon as I pulled another copy of them
I feel like I’m not moving efficiently what should I change
Please help me
@unreal storm I’m a noob at this but I would say just stay there until you get good enough to beat it
@AkshayWakshayYT#4767 I've been stuck here for 2 days
It’s just going to be levels. Like look at your belinda being lower level even tho she is L+; she just needs to be made more strong with xp over time and you will cruise
I wouldn’t use something that is 2 or more ascensions behind (like a brutus only E) when others are E+ cuz the bonus stats make a big dfference
@regal swallow next time you have enough lab coins, buy a shemira and get her to L, L+ if you can manage. Mythic her with that vedan
got now get arden to 141 so he can lock 3 people at once. perhaps he and tasi can stun the enemy long enough for you to win
Please help me
@frank egret if its just levels then that's insane, how many days of afk is that lol I already dumped 2 days of AFK exp in and still can't beat it.
Stuck for a few days, tag me if you can help
@pale kettle stage number and rest of hero's?
@pale kettle try swapping arden and lyca and see how that goes? Who is tasi sleeping?
I guess mine is hopeless
Bomb you definitely need an upgrade because elite+ aka 120 won‘t cut it for long
I don't have enough heroes to Ascend anyone
Big mood
@pale kettle Arden roots estrilda twice, lyca mid, tasi top, Arden bot, and swap Shem and Brutus and try them in both front spots, personally I like shem into estrilda
@unreal storm you also aren’t using your most powerful unit in exchange for someone who is way behind in ascensions
Maybe if i had another purple saveas
Try to switch sav with nemora and brutus with hogan. Enemy nemora needs to die and your nemora should charm kaz @old ore
@frank egret I put Belinda in and she did nothing and died
This game really is about patience, frustrating as it is, we only punish ourselves when we try to push past barriers before we have the xp
@old ore you can also try lyca instead of hogan then. She will die instantly but the haste boost can help sav kill the nemora faster
Lyca will give you the 3+2 faction bonus too
@Asmia#1884 didn't work
Have you even leveled your lyca? She is level 1
Any suggestions on what to do better here?
Anyone got any tips for line ups?
@tired dove you can't even make nemora L+ because you waste all your fodder heroes on useless legendaries who you don't have the copies for to make them L+
Main lineup. Should I wait for shemira or level up Lucius to 200?
waste
not getting fodder for wilders in general
yes, waste. legendary kaz lul
there is a reason why everyone says that you should upgrade from E+ to L+. if you upgrade everything to L as soon as you can then you won't have any fodder left to upgrade the ascended heroes to M+ to raise your level cap
I guess thanks for the help?/s
just a tip for the future ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Any advice?
faction bonus isn't worth it if you give up team synergy for it. take out hogan and belinda and put in arden and tasi.
arden where belinda is. sav opposite of sav. brutus opposite of sav frontline. you win as soon as the opposite sav is dead
Cant get past this to save my life, 11-40, tried over leveling shem and saveas, lots of combos no luck
@untold maple I can only post a screenshot as reference but without brutus I would have never won
maybe your gb tank is good enough though
Yeah every comp I've seen uses brutus, guess I'll have to rent one tonight. @visual quiver
Any advice?
Last stage of Voyage of Wonders...I already lost some units and it's kicking my ass
@knotty ice too many damage dealers, need some supports in there
I replaced satrana with numisu
I’d also probably put Ezizh in over Rayne and saveas moved back. Once you can crystal him
@restive yoke Is Mehira ult able to interrupt eironn pull?
Sherima Arden Rowan Lucius and Ezizh or maybe a Saveas somewhere
Would be tempted to try run
Rowan
Mehira
Belinda
Sav
Fawkes
Here's the rest of my E heroes if that helps as well. I have slots open in my Crystal
@restive yoke Like i said add Fawkes to crystal, try the above.
@visual quiver
gz
gz
Obviously lvl Shemira to 160, and Arlan will be my next 141, waiting for one more Brutus to L+?
Stuck on 9-37, did my share of formations and a few hero switches. Tried thoran and silvina, now brutus. Im a fool on this game, but i really need some help 🤣
Currently stuck on 20-8, any help would be appreciated :)
any suggestions?
@lethal rivet
i really need to get more nemoras xD
Should I mythic tasi or I can make either lyca or nemora straight to ascended?
I would say lyca to ascended, tasi leg+ isn't that bad since she can tp before getting killed
I was thinking that especially since there are a few times I may need to put lyca in front line. Btw are you o. My flist?
if you're oblivion170 then yes haha, what a coincidence
Lol yeah. Small world. Is tasi signature item worth it?
I don't think so, you should just ascend your lyca
Yeah imma pull the trigger on it. Thanks. Also her 181 skill is useful
yes! goodluck and if you need some help you can dm me ig
Cool thanks
Been stuck here for ages please help
@regal swallow lucius saveas arden belinda nemora gonna be your best bet probably but I think you mught be underleveled
@mild wing who should I focus leveling?
What’s a good team comp? Just for general play through of campaign.
@regal swallow finish Saveas to 160 asap then belinda
Can someone explain why Arden keeps getting one shotted by Kaz?
Need help for 15 37
@fierce kayak I tried that setup out and it wasn't working for me.
@brittle summit Ya.. my setup needs lots of tries tho. I won be luck RNG.
Else try using Atahlia to disable arden
any screenshot for wilder faction 85? thanks
So I am stuck on 6-14 and just got Belinda+ from the login event. Would you recommend swapping anyone out for her?
@frigid jackal shemira in brutus out
@frigid jackal maybe replace raine with a rosalind
@shrewd laurel use belinda instead of shemira, shemira useless early game
Swapped shemira in for brutus and everyone died and only did 27m 😦
@shrewd laurel I got the exact same team just instead of shemira i use Belinda and with that I’m currently at stage 7-28
@frigid jackal that's the guild hunt wrizz right? i guess you still need a healer to be in the lineup, im using baden shemira estrilda nemora rosalind, and this lineup dealt 60m when shemira was 220 and everyone else 180.. maybe the 20 level did the difference i dont know.
Yeah guild hunt
Currently hard stuck on 7-28 need some advice
Anyone have the Mauler floor 80 screenshot?
@high oyster Honestly you are underleveled, give it a little time and it will be easy
Anyone know of a way to beat this one? I can't really win it rn
Id probably try to flip the belinda and saveas and try tasi over fawkes
doesn't make a difference. frontline just gets nuked before they get their skills up and tasi almost never gets her skill and belina is kinda garbage but I need her for the faction buff
16-4 any ideas?
@worldly thorn estrilda is not good frontline, use Brutus instead
Even though he's only an epic?
Kings tower 263
@warm ocean Honestly you might need to level a little
With what Ascended hero's though ? Only way I can get summons atm is to legit pay money or climb stuff which I need to level to climb
@mild wing ah ok that explains why the timer always runs out
15-40 help pls
@plush kelp nemora in tasi out nemora middle back charm faerel, done
Ty
Any line up advice?
At ~ even level you should be destroying it with half decent relics
Any help would be appreciated, who should I focus on for my last 2 for PvE? Did I mess up with my 3 already?
If youre struggling its your relics not your lineup
Or your gear
Can i make a lineup better than my current of sav brutus tasi nemora arden?
Reccomend a future team comp?
@brittle maple thats a pretty good early game lineup: position them in such a way where one of your flanks is focused on breaking through (saveas with brutus in front) while another line is focused on holding (tasi front, arden mid / nem bot corner). Eventually you can replace saveas with a real tank when ur around level ~160 and feed him to make Brutus mythic
@craggy delta cough cough 345? 😋
@craggy delta real tank like whom?
@serene tinsel meta lineup is shemira / brutus or lucius + tasi/lyca/nem or arden
What should i focus on?
@brittle maple ulmus/seirus are solid now with all the buffs, but lucius, estrilda are also good
@craggy delta id love Lucius but RNg has other plans
@mild wing u need a comp for 345? @brittle maple you have a lot of time, early game is pretty much overlevel a carry (sav / brut) and get as far as you can
@craggy delta yeah sorry lol, that wasnt clearly said, If you dont mind id appreciagte any advice you got on it
@craggy delta how long does “early game” last?
@brittle maple Most peolpe consider early game up to 160 usually
@mild wing did it with warek, brutus, tasi, lyca and nemora @brittle maple ~chapter 20 is mid game
@craggy delta Last thing if you dont mind just so I can compare, at what hero level? You're aweosme thanks!
Oof, that’s a ways to go lol
A little stuck on 12-28
@mild wing 296, @brittle maple yes so no rush, just overleveling a few carries will get u far
@mild wing I have 1 relic, it is a bubble on ultimate and I am stuck on that fight for a 2nd
@brave dagger that is the last fight though It looked like can you post 1 more time
but how do you only have 1 relic
From the tower of time? I only started playing at the begining of this week
Oh no, the relics = the chests you get with the 3 choices
I meant if you are struggling at even level, your relics must not be good, it should be easy at even level
Oooh
it is absolutely not easy at all. especially for beginners
@craggy delta at this point, how much “overlevled” should my carry be vs the rest of the team
you have a legendary sav so 140. 20-40 level above the rest
@brittle maple your current set up is fine, dont level ur characters evenly if ur lookin to carry so 140 sav, bump everyone to 120 then sav to 160, then next project. It is important to get Brutus to 141 though since its a significant increase in his invicibility duration
first he needs sav L+ to get him to 160 lul
@craggy delta 140 sav with everyone else at 100? @visual quiver feelsbadman
@mild wing so you think I should just restart?
Yes there is that! So he can still bump sav to 140 first
@brave dagger I would, you may get better relics
is there a tier of the relics?
no. just get sunstone and moonstone + those spider gloves. and if you are lucky fire+icebringer too
@brave dagger sunstone moonstone fire bringer icebringer cacoon gloves are good for you auto pick those
Yes, but go ahead and 101 brut for the road upgrade which makes attacks undodgeable
actually, I think there is a tier list for relics lol but yeah, essentially only those 5 artifacts + sometimes deathly embrace which 1 hits brutus as soon as he is invisible
Roar* upgrade
Any help on a proper line up would be appreciated. Stuck on 9-32 by a lot
@clear creek pls screencap/send the fight as well
@clear creek lol I’m on 9-28
@pale kettle you need to overlevel your Brutus to pass that, the Fawkes will remove his immunity @clear creek i dont remember what the 9-28 encounter is bud
Here is the fight, even just a base PvE team that I can work on ascending would be super helpful. Thanks in advance
Wow.. legendary Skeeter is here..
@craggy delta 👋
legendary skeeter? wut
@fierce kayak hello 🤭 @clear creek you can probably frontline shemira top as its pure magical damage. LB melt vs Gb and you have nice wilders - so I suggest using mercenary Tasi or Nemora along with ulmus and Gorvo bottom to try and break through. Last slot can go to your own Kaz for 25% more hp @pale kettle around 180
Ty so much
@clear creek Hope it helps, 2 fairly good early game comps for shem build: shem / tank + 3 wilder backline (tasi, lyca and nem/arden) or Shem with 3 LB (Luc, Estr, Fawkes) and another energy generator. The former is pretty much meta and the latter is for bum-rushing ultis, especially if you add Rowan Lyca or Ezizh as your fifth
shouldn't rosa be op with shemira?
I was thinking if running a shem/luc/estrilda/rosalina/Belinda, but maybe that's not the way to go?
@pale kettle he’s fine where he is, since the rest of your team will just die - put dura’s blade or eye on him. If you can’t push past it, you simply need more levels or to ascend more maulers @visual quiver yes you’re right, rosa would be nice too
I don't see the use of estrilda if shem can stay alive in frontline
I mean, ofc she has a buff but ... there should be a better backline option
@clear creek you’ll still want some kind of crowd control and fawkes is one of the best at that with his coffin.
@visual quiver 30% attack and 150 energy whenever she does her flag ceremony, knocks down the entire enemy line when she charges and her ridicule reduces the entire enemy team’s damage by 28% for 8 secs
She is squishy tho till u get her sig item and her 181
yeah, I know that her buff is good although I don't think that her buff is that strong before level 161. I'm just saying that she, as a kind of tank is backline in his formation. and he put her backline
just looked. she regenerates 150 energy only at level 201. 100 is still good though
Sure, you can freely swap out anyone there, end of the day you need to work with your own roster
Inky ha ing a single fakes is where I'm struggling, try to find that good mix on my rostee
what
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Holy crap auto correct went south
I would put in lyca and tasi instead of kaz and treeguy. yeah he has. only elite though
Guys, when posting asking for lineup-help kindly post both your hero roster and the stage you are stuck in together in one post. It's hard for people helping to guess who you have.
U can sub out kaz for lyca
What that message meant to say was " only having one fawkes is where I am struggling, trying to find a good mix for my roster", also i have a single lycra that can be ised
he already posted his hero roster
@visual quiver This was a general reminder.
I’ve been stuck on this level (19-6) for a week. Help much appreciated.
@sand rune are you getting roar off before getting stunned / rooted? Also, is your nemora able to charm the arden quick enough to get the enemy team rooted
No on both counts.
Whats ur gear and relics like?
Shem has Sword and all Mythic gear, Brutus has Grace and all Mythic gear except for armor, Nemora has Drape and all Mythic except Armor, Lyca has Eye and all Mythic except Helmet, Tasi has Call and Mythic Helmet and Boots.
What annoying is that this is my alt account and I’ve beaten this level on my Main and can’t remember how I did it.
Lol I’ve seen people asking 19-6 like 20 times this week. Maybe try the search function in this channel. Something along the line of Brutus face Kaz lyca frontline tank Ogi shemira behind lyca tasi out arden in.
It’s definitely doable with meta lineup but if you’re really desperate just hire estrilda to face Ogi.
There are a few things you can do here, if you can pump a few points into nemora and tasi’s sig items to +5 then they’ll get a speed boost, if you have upgraded mythic or better boots on your casteds, you should be able to get ur cc off first. If you’re going to front Shem vs Wilders, using dura’s eye isn’t a bad idea - it will help her ulti quicker as well. Blade on Brutus is good as he can shred whoever you lane him against with spin. Nemora ideally has chalice to increase her health (and thus increasing her heals) and Lyca has Grace (hp/ dodge) so you can frontline her as a sacrifice if need be. IMO, try fronting Brutus vs Kaz, Shem top corner behind him. Tasi front since she can tele away, Nem bot corner to charm and Lyca mid (this is assuming you cant out”speed” the enemy team)
@sleek portal I try to search before asking. Surprisingly, this particular level has a disproportionally large amount more people asking than answering. It’s a wonky level.
@craggy delta seems speed is my salvation. 🍜
It is almost a given that Brutus has to face kaz. You can play around who to put in frontline. I think I used nemora bottom back to charm ira so she kills Ogi fast for me. Different people different method I guess. This level you definitely can’t afford to put shemira front line.
@sand rune most underappreciated stat in the game by most. Agree with @sleek portal , suicide for Shem frontlining vs 5 wilders
Any advice now that the channel isn‘t dead? Personally I think I‘m just underleveled
@sleek portal @sleek portal Thanks for the assistance. I appreciate the logic and breakdown.
nevermind. I won
get a shemira
who
Shemira
... who are you talking to
you have her at Legendary lvl 1
because I can't use her obviously
why not
because shemira gets good with 161+. my heroes need to be 140+ so I can level her to 161, which they aren't. but the most important reason is that I can't even level her to 161 because she is legendary. and for L+ I need 2 more copies
what stage you on
which means another 34 days. 12-16. I won the stage already
i had only L+ at that point
is that supposed to be helpful? weird flex but ok
no im saying shem is good even at L+
but I only have her L. I already said that I need 2 more copies for L+
@visual quiver 141 Arden is better than tasi. 2 roots becomes 3 roots
I have enough dust for my whole team at 141. I just need a day for hero essence
👌
Any advice? I'm hard stuck
probably need to play around with your merc setup
saveas+shemira at 117-120 isnt super great
What should I do then @wide breach
saveas lyca tasi arden and friend Brutus miiiiiight work, but you might just need more exp
Hello,
need a little idea... What would be the best team to go with for whole labyrinth? Not a special stage...?
sav + brutus front, tasi + arden + nemora backline. works every time.
Okay thanks, nemora will be in a few minutes in reso crystal... Only missing one stone ^^
but you need to play manual and not auto
Still stuck on 16-20 ;-; silvina goes for my nemora
switch lyca with tasi and give tasi lowest def
Nope that didnt work ;-;
The stupid Grezhul sheilds his whole team and blocks EVERYTHING @wide breach
the friend nemora might work, if you can outsustain. but yea thats a big wall stage
FINALLY I beat it with a friend Lucius
If anyone else gets stuck on 9-20 this is what I used to beat it.
not sure if that helps. not everyone has a friend with m+ luc
I remember using an eironn to pull the isabella and nemora
9-20 wasn't even a wall for me. I think 9-40 was
Finally beat 16-20 borrowed my friend’s L+ brutus and switched brutus and shemiras positions
Anyone got a lineup for 20-44
Also 9-20 isnt as big of a wall anymore cause they nerfed it
@mild wing bless me w your screenshots 🙏
Ok ok well I had trouble with it with a bunch of E and E+ Bois
@broken granite I had shem and brutus flipped and nemora lyca flipped
Bruhhhh..
I'm stuck again feelsbadman
@pale kettle nemora middle back, done
@pale kettle ^ and drop tasi. If nemora fails to charm fareal, reset. Shem and Brutus can switch depending which one works better.
dura call shemira nemora middle back charm faerel, if shemira dies from grezhul just swap with brutus. that is THE ONLY way you gonna win by using meta lineup
i beat it
Which signature items to use?
In desperate need of help, stuck here for 2 weeks now. Did i hit a wall and do i need to break the 140 cap or is themis doable?
@wise stream try
Arden
Savaes
Nemora (try to charm brutus)
Brutus
Tasi ( Silv bait)
@pale kettle ask in #classic-questions for sig items
@wise stream btw read the first 2 pinned posts in #classic-questions for useful tips
@fierce kayak do you have a screenshot of this? Its 16-36
@tawny jewel i know that now lol, did that on my second account and no problems there. Too late to fix this account so just need to pray for good single summons
6-39 am i basically just stuck waiting for ascensions/leveling or is there a better combo i'm not seeing
@fierce kayak didnt work, i can charm brutus, keep every hero alive except for tasi for nemora to do ult and then everything is killed very fast keavung saveas against 3 or 4 enemies
@open turtle saveas is better than shemira
he seems to die so quick though :\
@tawny jewel I don't have. Sorry buddy. Might be a little... under power but your set up looks fine. Tasi is Silv bait right?
Else switch tasi bait behind shem instead.
Or Shem and Brutus switch. Then maybe try nemora bottom
@fierce kayak okay i will. I am not getting even close tho. I am using 2 ults at best. I will try afew setups and just afk
@wise stream sorry bud. Maybe need a little more power and you tweak a bit your heroes or wait for others to give you better advise.
No worries, sitting on almost 10M hero xp so when i get another brutus ill be steamrolling 🙂
I'm having one heck of a time trying to get past the last level of Lucent Vault
blew through every level except this one, what am I doing wrong?
I'm borrowing a M Lucius w sig +10 unlocked
don't chide me on my legendaries please I know they're hard to look at but I had no idea what I was doing (also ignore the second saveas, i was trying multiple comps and needed more than 1 after my first one died)
Yes, I have tried getting the health down, but the other comps I've used all die within seconds and deal like a few thousand dmg per hero
@wise stream what if you get that brutus in 1 year
If i get stuck for another week ill just get silvina to 160 and put her in
Well...i got time 😂
@wise stream lol just lvl fodder up to lvl 160 and get crystal lvl to 160. You should be able to win like that
Yeah but i wasted all my fodder to get hetoes to legendary, big noob mistake there
@wise stream yup
So ill just have to sit it out a bit, wait for events to get easy summons, etc.
@wise stream just dont do the same for mythic too (there you waste 4 e+ instead of 2 )
Yeah got it, thanks for the tip @tawny jewel
Any idea on this one? Silvina is badass
I am having like no chance since a week, any ideas?
Floor 60 gb tower, any ideas?
@eager shuttle Rosaline instead of Tasi
@broken egret maybe Shem in front of Safiya and Ferael behind her.
but that power difference is so high. put your best gears on them. I take that risk a lot . haha hoping nobody challenge my team at the arena.
I already got best gear on all
Guess it's just not possible atm, wilder cc is too strong shem is only 1 alive at the points she gets to ult and just insta dies. Due to tasi banish she can't get ult up
Been stuck here for over a week, can’t even progress with hired friends hero’s, Arden and kaz either destroy my team or ogi and ira just cc and melt my team
Any ideas how to kill Athalia cuz she kills my 3 heroes?
Currently stuck pretty early in the game (6-12), any idea of good lineups with my current heroes?
Have comepleted
@bronze cove level saveas
Which hero do I switch with Saveas?
probly hogan
@bronze cove this are my heroes but I am at 6-23
I doesn't have Lucius so :/
Hogan have to be switched
I'll try then
shemira and saveas can both be "tanks" if over leveled
How can I defeat this?
id try
Tasi
-----Shemira
Nemora
-----Brutus
saveas
brutus is good against ogi since when he gets thrown back he doesnt instantly die
Still can't beat this level :/
please help 😥😥
swap out tasi for nemora nd put the sheep in the middle and try to charm ferael
Like this? Still not going anywhere, I'm getting salty lmao
@bronze cove no, put shemira back in front, move nemora up 1
Nemora
----------Brutus
Arden
----------Shemira
Savaes
keep trying till nemora charms savaes
Yep you need to charm fera asap @forest hedge
yea usually charm ferael = win on those levels
Also if lyca doesn't work you still can use tasi for team cc
Though usually with lyca haste that will be enough , but mind you that tasi can banish fera interrupting charm
tasi+nem+arden usually not the best combo
banish overlapping with charm or root makes it kinda a waste
Yeah I know what I told is just an alternative
Do you remember what you used to beat 20-33 that stage is just awful
uhhhh not really
20-33 wasa long time ago for me i was on map 20 for weeks, i ran through 21 so much faster
İ mean it is not even a boss stage but i just can't beat it no matter what I do
oh one of those, move brutus down to fight ulm for the damage bonus, try to kill him quick with good rng + a good spin. Id try to use nem to charm arden to root his own team, also keep tasi behind brutus so silv goes to brutus and not shemira . I wouldnt bother with athalia since youre gonna be charming the arden
Problem is enemy Arden insta roots so I have to use athalia
does your nemora have good gear for speed
For some strange reason even if i use lyca he just insta roots
you should be able to charm before he roots 
@unique magnet can beat it with 4 tanks and 1 nemora 😂
Yes she has m boots
that works i guess
That lv was Annoying
Nah doesn't work guess I am stuck for good
Damn Wilders are just the worst to fight against i hate them with a burning Passion 
thank you so much guys, passed 15-40 in 1 shot

Yeah RNG allowed me to pass too thanks
Lol i take it back 20-36 is way worse :D now that enemy has lyca i can't charm Arden

Getting hypogean mythic item for the 474738 time 
İs that the viper marshes boss ?
İf so you need to use cc and distraction ( Baden / Grezhul ) to pass i also have seen people sending one team to kill khaoss/Brutus and after losing sending another to kill the remaining enemy
It is vipers marsh. I have tried using lots of cc but if they get a single move off they oneshot my team. I also don't have a secondary team that's strong enough to take out a hero by themselves
Any ideas?
Then your best bet is to use Grezhul or something to keep Brutus away from using his ult on your team or just skip this peak till you get stronger
How to win this it is impossible?
Gah that's so frustrating to just give up when I have beaten every single other camp on the map except for 3bosses
can you kill other bosses and get the relics to be stronger?
I cud kill the lb boss, but not the other 3
That is my last fight of the event but it is hard
Maybe I just have shit relics and need to try it again with better relics
@muted blaze do you have the spider gloves (cocoon) relic? and use tasi and shemira with manual ult, use tasi ult when the cocoon ends
Ok i gave up on pot for now. Any tips for beating 15-40?
Yep team cc with Shem cleaning up
nemora mid to charm ferael
Use nemora to charm fera asap and hope for the best @tepid current
@muted blaze then i think restart and get better relics 🙂
Should I have call or eye on shemira?
Call if you don't use tasi which in that case you shouldn't if tasi banishes fera
Who do I put eye on then?
Brutus
Oh ok. I have drape on Brutus rn. Who do I put that on then lol
@cinder crag you're asking about the agaisnt 5 wilder lineup?
İdk you should be able to pass it without needing drape
Also yeah 20-36 and 5 wilder comps in general is just garbage
@tepid current dura call on shemira, nemora middle back charm faerel, arden bottom back, lyca top, should be easy.
@cinder crag brutus shemira top to bottom, backline i used arden lyca nemora top to bottom, arden will root enemy 2-3, charm their arden so their arden root 2-3 also, shemira dura call
Idk doesn't seem easy lol. I haven't ever been able to kill more than. 1 unit
I don't understand what you mean by Brutus / Shem top to bottom do you mean Brutus at top Shem at bottom? @sleek portal
İt's also way worse than before i think nemora is useless in this fight
@limpid quail which one the Brutus relic right?
She can't charm anyone without getting rooted even if i use lyca
@muted blaze I would take the left
@muted blaze how many fights have you left until the boss? ragespike could be worth it
Um many for boss I can’t go there so fast cuz the paths are away
then ragespike when you will be able to get it to full stacks
Any ideas?
Which one @limpid quail sorry for asking it the whole time cuz I want to win last battle
Left right?
Do you have ice bringer?
Kaz poison is pretty formidable and will melt bosses quickly but fire/ice bringer is the safest pick
Ok
What the hell is this Ulmus fight as if the Wilders weren't overpowered to begin with now this
Need help pls dont know what to do
yeah full wilders is always pain in the ass
They are overpowered and needs to be Rebalanced
I don't just understand why this game blatantly favours Wilders above anything else I am pissed 
Their CC and dodge is really a pain
Yeah I mean I hate to be that guy who complains but this is just so blatantly obvious to me that it is obnoxious , not only are they the king of support and cc but they are king of just straight damage ( kaz shreds Shem ) , and they refuse to die due to Ulmus and nem and their dodges sigh the more I think about it the more I just hate Wilders lol
Help
@limpid quail how to defeat this or should I get 5 more relics can do 5 battles and then this one???
Luci Brutus sav tasi And grez should pull it off
get as many relics as possible
Do you have good relics ?
pls how do i beat this fucking 21-4 stage ? 😢
İ mean it's not bad focus on brutus and eiron/ safiya and do not let eiron pull your heroes in just use tasi ult beforehand
Honestly i understand you Wilders are the worst enemies in the game sadly against Wilders its down to RNG and being overleveled @mighty summit
Hello, could anyone help me out with mauler tower floor 80?
I also got a Brutus Ascended, Totem boy ascended and waiting for a mythic warek, being lent
Also get all the relics you can get before attempting and don't forget to pause and restart stage if you are failing @muted blaze
How do I beat this stage?
Can you get Shem to Mythic?
not yet
Guess no hmm then nem tasi Belinda Brutus and grez you need to charm Brutus and just focus on bursting down Brutus and sav first then your overall cc will help though when you get Shem to Mythic reset nem And make Shem 161
kk thanks
Im kinda stuck on 19-24, is it the level disadvantage or does any of you have a good idea?
@olive compass what stage is it? did you try meta team:
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi/arden
@wicked heart 18-26. Let me give the team a shot.
@lapis basalt post a screenshot of the enemy formation pls
@hybrid shard try this
lyca
shemira
arden
brutus
tasi
@limpid quail
@muted blaze you going with shemira for the boss? then the left = massive damage to all enemies at the start when she ults
Ok
Hey! I did it. Thanks!
@limpid quail dont have a arden rn. And my Nemora gets oneshot, just like my Shemira gets nuked, cant even get a ult in.
Don’t know which one @limpid quail
arcane spellbook ofc
Ok
12-40
swap lyca and lucius
@limpid quail messed up again it is hard
preview the relics in the chests before taking any fight, when you have good relics there you can start fighting. restart as soon as you have shit in the chests
at least should have the ice/fire or sun/moonstone combo
What’s my best line up for stage 6 out of E+ Belinda, E nemora, Lucius, Rosa, saveas, thane, Brutus?
Any tips for mauler 80 tower against 2 wareks and 3 naras?
What would be my best team
Brutus saveas belinda arden nemora imo, get shemira to mythic 161 and she will be the best carry then @pale kettle
Any advice to clear this stage? They just instantly destroy my team
any ideas? best case scenario was so far that my saveas was 1v1 with enemy saveas but couldnt finish him in the 45 seconds left XD with more levels obviously would be ez, but was wondering if someone had an idea on how to brute force it rn
@viral timber You have the comp id use, maybe try moving saveas around a little, prob your best bet other than waiting a little and itll be easy. Move him around and run a bunch for rng.
oki ty
Not a fun answer but thats how I see it. @viral timber
Only thing i might change is switch arden/tasi.
Or try Sav top behind lyca, and see if you can kill sav second after ogi with arden middle.
@viral timber
if i switch arden & tasi, she gets 1 or 2 shot by the sav, so she doesnt even get her ult off (which she does now with good rng), so that's why i have him there. but yeah, will try to swap the sav arounda bit
Need some help @limpid quail
@muted blaze overlevel your saveas. You dont want to level evenly he should be +20-40
ye and afaik you dont wanna run saveas + shemira early, might aswell ditch her and focus on saveas alone, with your frontline he should be able to push you quite far
Stuck here
Can anyone help with 19-6 I’ve been stuck here a week+, can’t even go further with friends hero’s
Any help with faction tower mauler floor 80? I have level 200 units
THats the nara? Need to overlevel brutus higher
Suggestions?
Help
@ancient oasis arden instead of tasi, nemora must charm either vurk or saveas
@limpid quail can’t beat it and don’t know when I can hire friends heroes
@muted blaze what's your relic's choice?
event's ending at 4 days, if you have shit relic you're better off resetting now, then you have 3 more days to level up to close the gap between your lineup and the final boss's lineup, provided you enter the lucent vault before leveling up so they dont scale anymore. relic is the key to beat the last stage for newcomers, and also hiring mercenary is very important here. it's important to get either the sun/moon stone or fire/icebringer combo and also cocoon relic(the one that locks people for 5sec to disrupt enemy eironn and safiya). get all attack if possible. you need 1 cc 1-2 tank 2-3 dps. good luck
@muted blaze
Crowd control. @muted blaze
Should i try to boost saveas to 140 to clear this or bring the rest of my squad up?
focus on saveas
@sleek portal what team should you make with this heroes?
@muted blaze reset your lucent vault now, and then re-enter. then go out reset all the level 70 and level20 heroes, and use the resources to max out the top 5 heroes. then i'd use lucius brutus saveas nemora and tasi, i will hire a mercenary dps or lucius depending if there's any casualty when i finally reached final boss. try to get the relic as mentioned. poison is good as well. AND YOU'RE SUPPOSEDLY ABLE TO SEE THE CHEST BEFORE YOU LEVEL( very important here). go enter the lucent vault and check all the chest for the right relic run otherwise keep resetting. only when youre 100% you can get the combo relic and cocoon then you proceed to go out and reset and level.
@muted blaze i hope it makes sense. tldr version is only reset and relevel when you're 100% certain you can get the mentioned relics. you only have 1 shot since there's 3 days left in the event.
@muted blaze I would also take out lucius and add in nemora for the extra faction boost
Ok but I can’t hire heroes and don’t even know how and when I get it
20-54 tips?
@muted blaze try get 40% more heal or 80% and leech
@muted blaze you might be too low level in campaign. its okay to not have mercenary. just have to choose to right relic
But resets heroes cost 20 gems @sleek portal so should I do it then?
@muted blaze I focused on life leech relics and was able to clear the vault
@split gull youtube Ayuh Le and Vitaly ........... on their videos. helps you clear entire chapter 20.
@sleek portal will do, thanks
I believe you have to clear 6-40 to get Mercenaries unlocked. @muted blaze
@muted blaze you basically fucked up by leveling a ton of useless heroes to level 20 and 70..... now you have to pay for it i guess... you're supposed to put the extra heroes into resonating crystal
XD yea was then very noob
if you're still confuse about the reset and only relevel after entering lucent then i think you'll have to find someone else to explain. my england level is shit. it's all about the enemy scaling thingy
Yea need explain and I go off now need to go
@muted blaze reset everything that is level 20 and lower that you don’t need. Put all of that exp into saveas. Swap out Lucius for nemora
Yea I can leave guild where I am now @flint cairn and joins your but tomorrow then
If do you want soren let me know
Ok
Should i sacrifice saveas l + to get brutus mythic +?
@pale kettle he is still usefull in faction tower to lvl 50 i think
They r lvl 140
sacrifice. If you will need a saveas then search in mercenary 🙂
Need help with 15-8 please
already tried to win via RNG? Like 10 runs or smth? lyca on top arden mid and tasi on bottom, i would try that
i did... but it kinda seems like they all just die and leave shem do it all... sometimes she does it sometimes not
just needs one tasi+shem ult at the same time
Who should I focus on leveling
well i got to it but i still lost.. they didnt die and i just got wrecked 😦
tried over 10 times and nothing
@sly sparrow i'd swap tasi out for nemora. arden roots 3 nemora charms their nemora charm kaz.
honestly without tasi i dont see it as doable... her sleep is too precious
i dont know. i never prioritize tasi until i got to chapter 19 lol. was using arden and nemora all the way
hey so right now I don’t know who I should be mainly focusing on, the tier list says saveas is godly but I don’t feel it yet
I’m trying to get a good support like nemora/nimusa
tldr I just need some backup on what I should be doing
rn my comp is khaso fawkes grez ira brutus sometimes switching ira with Arden
@pale kettle you're too early in the game, you probably started like less than 1 day or 1 day. you need to summon for 1 week+ for further advice. you can cruise through chapters now by leveling. generally go 2 tank 2 dps 1 cc or 2 tank 1 dps 2 cc or 1 tank 1 dps 3 cc.
save up your lab coin now and come back 1 week later.
ok dad thank you I’ll see you in a week
@violet pecan wow, bitizen's seirus yikes. anyway, brutus face brutus nemora charms vurk so vurk kills brutus to proc his shield before he ultis, shemira frontline and lyca in and use arden instead of tasi? dura call on shemira. thats what i used at least.
Any ideas?
@pale kettle what level faction tower is this?
@sleek portal 86
ok im not the right person to answer then im at 86 as well haha
Just follow those that clear the stages?
@sleek portal when nemora charm Vurk and Vurk poisom enemies Brutus and i pop enemies brutus poison... instead of killing his units i kill mine....
There is like puting c4 on your car and instead of blowing your car you blowup car next to yours and your car is intact....
Level 80 tower? I have no chance.. what’s the trick? Lol
@pale kettle hire a good khasos with above +10 signature item. if the khasos throwing axes procs, he will instantly kill 3 heroes in first 5 seconds of the battle.
Any help stuck on 9-36
@sleek portal I don’t have one 😂😭
Tan what is that about
How the hell do i beat this
Well you need good cc, have you tried Tasi?
Tasi and High damage or Fawkes and High damage because Lucius won't deal that much damage
Thane will do all the damaging so if you get banishments on Thane and kill the Lucius quick enough you should be good?
He can only use maulers @spare girder
Oh shoot I see
I'm not high enough to know that lol... My squad isn't even up to 200k power 😅 😂
I'm stuck... Any ideas? 
Any recommendations?
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
@mellow hound I'd put Shemira behind Brutus, put Tasi frontline with Arden backline middle.
@lapis sand Put Nemora in place of Arden. Then try
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
Any advice? Im stuck on 7-8
@ashen schooner seemed worse after 10ish tries with shemira in the back
Ya that setup is much much worse
how do i cope with this healing 😔
Regardless, you do need a buffer from the Ogi and he'll destroy you fast. I'd try putting Brutus up top with Shemira behind him to get rid of him but the Kaz is a huge risk. Is your Tasi fast enough to escape before Ogi grab? @mellow hound
brutus 200 or lucius 200?
Brutus I'd say @next basin
Nope, and i can't ignore Kaz, if she gets her ult it 1shots shemira. So I'm kinda screwed against a 5 stack wilder team @ashen schooner
@gilded fractal Alice... I'm just gonna say I used full meta team but I'm not sure what won it
I wanna say I put Shemira behind Brutus too
currently stuck at 21-6 dunno if I can do anything to get over it, sometimes i nearly made it but fear from thoran's fcked me
Try um
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
and reset until Kaz gets charmed @mellow hound
what’s the best team i can make
No Arden? Arden >>> tasi
@next basin Put the Nemora across from Shemira, then if that doesn't do anything switch Lucius in front so Lyca is backline
elite arden, wondering if can make it with him
@mellow hound Nemora for the charm to get Kaz to hit their Arden
The enemy arden is the issue, my arden has to tangle him before he tangles me. Nemora wont even survive to charm with enemy Arden's tangle
I'm in 22 and I'm using an E+ Arden, I think you'll be fine using Arden if you decide too lol @next basin
kinda hard to make it cuz when lucius is front line he dies too fast, cant ult, wish i had him 220 and fraction items for him
Hmm... I mean if the Arden is doing a better job then certainly. I passed by charming the Kaz away from my team so that's just personal preference. @mellow hound
He dies to Shemira? @next basin
yea, thats why i tried to put him in backlane and then he ults, sometimes shem and tasi survive and they ult too but still cant make it lol, really need to make shemira items M+
any tips??
I didn't have M+ back then, I'd say maybe the Tasi needs ascension because I'm sure either her or Nemora are getting jumped by the Silvina and dying in 1-2 hits
yeah, nemora gets jumped on, gets hit from isabella and dies :x
@wanton helm Put Vedan where Silvina is then move Mirael to the middle backline
alright thanks!! ill see if that works
Mmm if that's the case maybe put Nemora in the frontline where Lyca is or where Shemira is, then Shemira behind her so she can drain
@next basin
oop didn't work, most likely bc of levels im guessing? gear is maxed out even tho it's not great gear
oh did not thought bout it lol will try, need to clear 4 brutus in tower asap to get armor for lucius with fraction bonus
Well normally Belinda is not someone that goes frontline. Who are your other heroes? You need tank(s). @wanton helm
@ashen schooner taken before i leveled hogan a bit, p sure he's a tank?? he's level 27 now but i need to do more on him obviously
Yes he is a tank. Him and Vedan can do wonders as your frontline. Then Lyca, Mirael, and Belinda.
okay, thanks for letting me know!! so should i reset tapi for the xp to level him up?? @ashen schooner
@ashen schooner still doesnt work out ;(
Mmm, no actually. Reset the Mirael and keep Tasi. Tasi and Lyca are extremely useful through the progression of the game. @wanton helm
👌 will do
@lapis sand Switch Arden and Tasi from the screenshot lineup you sent.
I really need help
@unreal storm See if putting Tasi in exchange for Arden will change any results.
@ashen schooner still not even close
Silvina destroying you? @unreal storm
Yeah her and they just aren't dying quick enough
I got it, my Belinda just needed to be able to ult twice
@ashen schooner switching nemora with lyca worked after 20 tries, ty :3
Now I'm stuck here though @ashen schooner
have shemira tank instead of saveas
Try arden instead of saveas, might be okay, since he's a lot of CC, and it gives your team 15% attack and hp if you do it.
@elder orchid only problem is that the silvina instakills him
h e l p still stuck like hell on this one
@unreal storm Then you just gotta wait and level up your heroes a bit more, silvina was the bane of my existence.
@elder orchid yeah I mean I have TONS of hero XP I just don't have the gold to level them up
@elder orchid see?
Happens, just try a lot of different line ups, otherwise wait.
(if anyone has help on mine that'd be mucho appreciated)
@wanton helm I will look 1 moment
@wanton helm it's chapter 4 right? In the early chapters honestly sometimes your just gonna have to wait a little, give it half a day and youll breeze through
8-24, would maybe need a solid team. Advice for that chapter
@pale kettle#835you need a high dps carry 20-40 levels over the rest of your team, leveling evenly is aq mistake. Generally building a saveas is best up to level 160, shemira is best after.
@mild wing yep, thanks!! it's 4-32 i believe, so wait half a day and use the xp from the afk to level up to beat it??
@mild wing aight will try but my saveas is not even elite+ sadly
@pale kettle Even at elite he is very good, or try overlevelling the shem, shes not as good pre 161 but either way you need an overlevelled hero @wanton helm Yea I would, early on there will be a few times it's necessaryh
Aight I'll invest in her so or try to get copies of Sav
11-40 any ideas? :/ read through past people and seems all lineups have Brutus.. actually a merc Brutus helped me crack 11-38 but I’m stuck again..
Need a hand here figuring out who to level and what kind of team comp I should have? I’m at 9-19 right now
@torn lava Have you tried saveas and tasi over belinda and rowan/mehira? Because that is what I would try first
Or take out hendrik and put saveas front line
Their burst is just insane.. I try to put Rowan/mehira for survivability but.. still die really quickly
I think I need a way to early disrupt khasos/mirael
Saveas is gonna have higher survivability than either and tasi for banish and sleep cc or an Arden for roots esp if you can have him at 141 if gonna be best
In stuck on floor 60 of faction tower,.. any tips? @.@
@pale kettle find someone who has a high ascension warek and mercenary it, thats the easiest way honestly
Need a higher leveled Ascended Brutus
Wares? Gonna try that! Thankies, tugey! 🤗
^ or that, 60 nad 80 mauler are 1000x easier if you find someone with a mercenary
I don't even think I used Warek for that, damn I shoulda tried that 
Why don’t these heroes take damage
Brutus better 80 but Warek for 60 AFAIK
Need to burst down a luscius so they cant keep spamming shields, mehira heals from dmg to allies, and tasi gonna tasi @fossil relic
Interestingly enough had best luck with this so far
@torn lava Yeah thats more or less what I was suggesting, saveas is a good frontline and dps and tasi and arden will cc
I do -160 damage to Lucius lol this stage is impossible
When does faction towers unlock
Stuck on this stage. Any level redistribution or different heroes suggestion?
15-1 @velvet hearth
Oh that's why I am still in 11 :5
@ripe cipher I would overlevel Saveas, maybe try swapping in Tasi for CC for either belinda or luscius
Arggg so close
Stuck at this lv need some help, my saveas is max lv of elite cap but don't win
Could use some help with ideas for teams I think I'm being less effective by being biased on the units I WANT to use not SHOULD USE plz any tips or insight
How??????
@muted blaze Try arden for belinda @velvet hearth Saveas gonna be stronger than shem until 161, try resetting and swapping for right now. Backline loooks fine but id put nemora on top for charm
@muted blaze Try it a bunch for rng, move saveas around a bit
Ok
Some help needed over here
@mild wing the sniper keeps bursting my saves down
@velvet hearth Flip nemora back to bottom then and try to charm him. @old ore Your saveas should be +20-40 levels overlevelled
Can't ascend him
Ah 120 cap @old ore , just saw that
14-37, stuck
There's nothing more i can do really. I guess i should just wait it out... Such shitty drop rates :/
@old ore Id take out hogan and numisu and try rosa and twins, saveas in hogans frontline spot
She keeps charming the FLer -_- fml
should i put in nemora for lucius?
@stone lynx I would put shem frontline where lucius is, you can try nem backline
How??????
@ornate totem Id try arden or Brutus
Brutus gets fast rooted and killed and arden too!!
Can someone help
What about using ur Belinda?
Mine? I is only e
@pale kettle
instead of who?
Arden
Remove Arden and afterwards make Tasi and Belinda switch
I REALLY need help here
@vernal berry why don't u make Shemira backline so she can last longer?
Because i cant put anyone else front