#lineup-help

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obtuse ledge
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Yes @broken granite I just need two more E+ leg tier, unless I decide to sacrifice some asc tier

winter arrow
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@tawny jewel i see. would saveas work well on chapter 8 if only elite+? im stuck on 8-12 and currently on my 5th day so im a bit short of exp but i wonder if a overleveled saveas can shred them even at elite+ only?

broken granite
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I'd wait for 2 more E GB fodders then. Grez is a billion times better than numisu

winter arrow
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im too short on mauler fodder and too many lb fodder

tawny jewel
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@winter arrow saveas needs to be 20-40 lvls above the rest of your team. Thats how he shines

broken granite
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And then youd be able to make brut M to push campaign

obtuse ledge
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Thanks for the tip. I will hold off on buying Numisu copies then.

plush gate
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@tawny jewel why only those two, for their self-heals?

winter arrow
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@tawny jewel i see. ill try it out as soon as i got my 1 last blue mauler to E+ my saveas

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@thanks for the input

tawny jewel
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@plush gate which 2?
@winter arrow saveas carry till ch 14 max hes good

plush gate
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@tawny jewel shemira and saveas as carry

tawny jewel
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@plush gate yea they are just reliable

winter arrow
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@tawny jewel would it be worth it if i spend my faction scrolls on maulers just to have fodder on my saveas? or better use it on light bringers till i get lucius?

tawny jewel
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@winter arrow no dont. Use them on wilders as they are the best faction. I used on lbs and i regret it now

plush gate
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@tawny jewel what about ulmus and Lucius? Or are those two just the generally accepted ones?

tawny jewel
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@plush gate they are tanks like brutus. Carries are
Belinda shemira saveas eironn thane

winter arrow
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@tawny jewel i see. for the wilder trio right? was lyca still necessary or substitutable?

plush gate
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@tawny jewel would it be more advantageous then to swap to one of the other traditional carries?

real palm
tawny jewel
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@winter arrow yea wilder trio is op. I can beat stages with double my power level
@plush gate i mean it would be nice if you started buying shemiras fron lab store

winter arrow
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@tawny jewel i see. thanks. ill try to invest on it somehow then. i already have nemora arden tasi. just lacking lyca

worthy grove
tawny jewel
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@winter arrow lyca is a must in some stages

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@worthy grove
Belinda
Estrilda
Rownan
Brutus
Rosa

real palm
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Ignored again 3rd time now niice

tawny jewel
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@real palm i am on the same lvl as you lol

regal swallow
tawny jewel
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@regal swallow why did you make belinda mythic

pale kettle
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Yea u should’ve maxed her at l+ after u beat 10

regal swallow
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is she not good? Someone told me to 😬😬

uncut sapphire
pale kettle
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Not good enough to ascend to mythic

fleet kernel
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Ascend to epic? What are you talking about

tawny jewel
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@regal swallow i did the same mistake. What if you never get a belinda copy ever again? You will be stuck at mytic and you will have wasted fodder

muted blaze
tawny jewel
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@uncut sapphire thanks bro

muted blaze
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The ankhira and Golus are my problems they do much damage but can’t defeat them

regal swallow
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@tawny jewel so how should I ascend, I know I shouldn’t make any L and I should wait until can make them L+

knotty ice
tawny jewel
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@regal swallow yup. Same goes for l+ to ascended

regal swallow
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@tawny jewel so I should wait for an e+ copy each time before getting them higher?

worthy grove
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@tawny jewel doesnt work tho.. gonna try something out

pale kettle
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@knotty ice level up ur heros

muted blaze
pale kettle
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Don’t upgrade common heroes

You shouldn’t even keep them

muted blaze
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I know it was in the begin

pale kettle
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Go retire them then

pallid lake
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@regal swallow ideally you’d wait so you could take them to ascended but for your first 5 especially you want them to be ones you can level to ascended very easily like in my case I have belinda mythic and it was a mistake, I rushed it because ooh shiny red hero. Khasos/nem shop heroes and only a couple off from ascended, tasi I literally have extra extra copies of her past whats needed for ascended, belinda was the mistake because I may not be able to ascend her in the near future but I have a contingency plan with raine/fawkes that should be able to ascend a lb hero for me from a shop hero. Fodder is precious and you want to be strategic with who gets ascended so you can best progress and not lock yourself at a wall at 200 because you can’t ascend anyone

But this line of convo is more for #classic-questions anyways

muted blaze
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I keep them for them for the bounty board

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If I am lv 4 bounty board (almost) then don’t need the common

pale kettle
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U can use better heroes than thm

muted blaze
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@pale kettle what to do cuz I am stuck on the lv

pale kettle
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Level up ur heroes

muted blaze
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Ok

pallid lake
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@pale kettle post the rest of your heroes please

tawny jewel
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@muted blaze saveas should be lvl 90-100

pale kettle
pallid lake
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@pale kettle
Tasi
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Arden

Try that, that’s what I used to beat it I believe, or you could try 4 wilder which would put shem in Brutus’ spot and nemora backline

pale kettle
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Lyca in frontline ?

pallid lake
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Yeah lyca against ogi

pale kettle
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get 1 shot

pallid lake
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She’s just there to distract ogi, she doesn’t have to take a lot of hits

pale kettle
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no i mean they all get 1 shot from arden bind

pallid lake
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Ah, try swapping tasi and arden, hopefully your arden should root him first, you may need to retry a bit to get him to do that, but that should be what you need to get it

pale kettle
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What's the best line-up for me?

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Ira 1 shots shem

pallid lake
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Who does tasi sleep?

pale kettle
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noone tasi gets 1 shot

earnest sigil
pallid lake
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Try nemora instead of tasi so she can charm ira

pale kettle
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tasi sleep lyca

pallid lake
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Yeah definitely try with nemora if she’s only sleeping lyca, unless she’s reliably getting her ult off for you

pale kettle
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nope lyca gets 1 shot then shem dies

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oh i beat it

pallid lake
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A lot of wilder strats are very rng dependent lol you gotta retry a good bit of the time to get the right course of events to win, I literally was retrying a stage for hours on end the other night so I could beat it

pale kettle
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arden actually binded arden

pallid lake
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Yeah your arden has to root him for you to get it otherwise your heroes are getting nuked without doing anything back

pale kettle
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now 14-39

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i hate brutus so much

pallid lake
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Try Shemira/brutus front nemora/lyca/arden back and see how that goes, ideally nemora charms vurk since he can be a pain and arden should root several for you

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You may swap nemora with tasi though depending on how that goes

pale kettle
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nope shem gets 1 shot by brutus

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cant put anything in midle back

viral timber
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any ideas? if it goes good for me the saveas ends up 1v1 against the isa in the end and gets fucked cuz he is low etc :/

pale kettle
maiden cobalt
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I'm getting a bit stuck everywhere at the moment, can anyone advise as to the best lineups for each thing, I'm on chapter 9-12, kings tower 109, and can't get past about 3/4 fights in Rest In Peace.
Here's my heroes:

viral timber
pallid lake
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@pale kettle
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

Try that, you may need to retry some the goal is for arden to root estrilda(that’s why we have lyca) and hopefully that should give shem time to get up and rolling

real palm
uncut sapphire
real palm
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Lyca meat shield?

unreal arrow
supple stratus
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i use lyca frontline all the time. dodge tanks work yo

vagrant marten
uncut sapphire
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@real palm Now that I think about it your Tasi may be too weak at Elite and get one shot :/

real palm
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Nah Keryl she survives and I won

uncut sapphire
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Oh nice ! Congrats

pale kettle
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Help me pls 🙏

uncut sapphire
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Maybe

Lyca
Golus
Arden
Brutus
Saveas

Really not sure about that though. Btw you may want to read the pinned posts in #classic-questions before you start ascending everyone to Legendary

pale kettle
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@pallid lake thanks i finished ch14

pallid lake
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@pale kettle awesome congrats!

pale kettle
clear saddle
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@pale kettle i think you can only 100% solar plane with the right relics. e.g. fire / ice bringer + kaz relic and some other stuff

pale kettle
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Alright, ill look for them

broken granite
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@pale kettle even ppl who are in ch.22 struggle w some of the bosses. That PoT can smd

pale kettle
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Yeah its really rough :/

broken granite
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I'm at 70.8% myself cause I just got all the piles of gold that only required me to fight common camps + 2 elite camps (I BARELY won the 2nd one)

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And I got 220 A shem, 200M+ brut, 200 2* nem, 180 1* tasi and 180 M lyca

pale kettle
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I just wanna hit 60% so i can unlock the nextone tbh

broken granite
pale kettle
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Ill give it a try thanks

uncut sapphire
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Have you tried Fawkes or Belinda instead of Shem ?

mild wing
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^ I would try both of those see how it works, will give you the 3 lb bonus and fawkes is good vs all the brutus in that ch

vagrant marten
pale kettle
turbid fern
uncut sapphire
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@pale kettle You should stop ascending everyone to L, read the pinned posts in #classic-questions
Lucius is a better tank btw

pallid lake
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@turbid fern swap shem and lyca and put lyca in front of ogi, brutus in front of kaz, see how that goes you may need to retry a bit but it should work

pale kettle
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Im little bit impatient😁

regal swallow
turbid fern
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@pallid lake Will try, thank you

uncut sapphire
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@pale kettle Your impatience will slow you down later

brittle maple
plush kelp
fleet kernel
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@brittle maple @plush kelp we need to see all heroes not just the 5 you're choosing to use

brittle maple
uncut sapphire
fleet kernel
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This might be too obvious, but have you tried swapping your Ulmus out for Brutus? @brittle maple

brittle maple
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@fleet kernel yeah, didn’t fare much better lol. Lost the 5% hp bonus and things just melted

uncut sapphire
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What about Brutus and Ulmus frontline and Sav behind Brutus then ? Instead of Nem

pale kettle
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@uncut sapphire i also need/want better luci for labyrinth

brittle maple
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@uncut sapphire I’ll give it a shot

fleet kernel
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@brittle maple maybe try
Nemora
Khasos/Ulmus
Saveas
Brutus
Arden

You might just need a few more levels instead of different setups

turbid fern
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@pallid lake Doesn't work well after 100 attempts. I get nuked every time the ennemi has a chance to ulti and their arden keeps rooting me

shy tinsel
regal swallow
maiden cobalt
azure shadow
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This is literally impossible to beat. I just can’t do any damage or stay alive. Wtf is this bs? Look at the overall battle strength too!!! How is it lower and defeating me. This is the final boss in the lucent vault btw

brittle maple
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@azure shadow what kind of relics you got

high oyster
regal swallow
gaunt birch
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Front Belinda Estrilda, Back Sav, Luc, Fawkes ?

supple stratus
harsh chasm
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Swap your nemora with arden so she can mind control brutus

indigo jolt
pale kettle
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@azure shadow i used for that one

Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Hendrik
Sveus

Might’ve swapped hendrik and lucius or sveus and belinda i beat it a while ago. I had to beat all the other camps first though cuz I couldn’t beat it without relics

supple stratus
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thx, at least same heroes. lets give it a go

indigo jolt
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You need tasi to be able to survive 1 sav spear.

unreal storm
supple stratus
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yea she does

regal swallow
supple stratus
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this turns the fight into full chaos. but i'll try it a bit.

modest lintel
pale kettle
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9-20 took me a day or 2 @unreal storm

I used i think

Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Hendrik
Sveus

Give that a go but swap hendrik for brutus

indigo jolt
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@supple stratus Just a matter of charming Sav twice in a row i believe, if your top half survives as he will kill of ulmus and nem for you.

spark temple
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I require the advice

modest lintel
unreal storm
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@pale kettle I don't have a Lucius sadly

empty bison
regal swallow
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Someone help me please

serene tinsel
pallid lake
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@modest lintel try 1-5 lyca brutus tasi shemira arden
You need your arden to get his root off first and probably tasi to ult

modest lintel
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@pallid lake I'll give that one a try. Thank you

pale kettle
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Oh i looked at the wrong picture.

Try
Belinda/sveus
Ulmus
Rosaline
Brutus
Belinda/sveus

Or:

Sveus
Brutus
Arden
Ulmus
Tasi
@unreal storm

empty bison
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@regal swallow keep pushing for Shemira. Use up fodder after she has become Legnedary +

regal swallow
pale kettle
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@regal swallow try

Sveus
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

Idk if it will work tho

unreal storm
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@pale kettle not even close cryingmirael

pale kettle
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Hm keep trying different things I don’t remember what i did

unreal storm
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Grezhuls stupid sheild ruins everything

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I wish I had Lucius

regal swallow
pale kettle
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Hm idk i was just throwing something out there I haven’t beaten it yet

regal swallow
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:/

vagrant marten
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Hi, I have this team. Saveas and Rosaline aren't greaty synergy and I want to swap her. Could you tell me, what champ should I use in exchange of her?

ashen schooner
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@vagrant marten Either Belinda or Shemira.

turbid fern
cinder crag
ashen schooner
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Switch Arden out for Nemora, swap Shemira and Brutus. If Ogi keeps throwing Shemira too much, switch Tasi in frontline with Shemira middle backline and Lyca top backline. @turbid fern

turbid fern
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@ashen schooner ok I'll try that, thank you

ashen schooner
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@cinder crag Nemora bot backline to charm Shemira, move Shemira where Brutus is.

cinder crag
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They have way too much cc for Shem to handle ( classic Wilders ) guess I am stuck for good

jade folio
cinder crag
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Also nem charms Shem which unable her to use ult damn Wilders are the worst

jade folio
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Currently stuck on 8-32

clear kraken
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can someone please help me out?? 12-36 but my team comp isn’t doing good against this team

sharp hornet
last ibex
worthy nimbus
cinder crag
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Any body got screen shot of 20-33 ? Cuz i can't beat it

regal swallow
mild wing
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You are quite underleveled tbh

jovial oyster
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Any ideas of the best team comps?

regal swallow
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If I reset Belinda and get my Arden to 141 will that be a big help?

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Or what should I do, I can reset ppl and put some on Crystal? Any ideas?

mild wing
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I would arden over rowan for more cc and his 141 roots is very good, worth a try

vague idol
unreal storm
pale kettle
vague idol
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I got stuck same lvl as @unreal storm

cinder crag
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@unreal storm can you burst down vegan with Brutus and saveas quickly?

pale kettle
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How do you guys do it

unreal storm
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@cinder crag yeah the main problem is Grezhul

cinder crag
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Generally your priority number one is Vedan then vurk you might want to use tasi instead of Ulmus and will have to sacrifice lyca also I don't believe grez can actually be more of a nuisance than Vedan anyways try it Vedan with his ult is usually the target number one

balmy hinge
cinder crag
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Who does Fawkes coffin ?

balmy hinge
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What

pale kettle
cinder crag
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Who does Fawkes trap with his coffin ability?

balmy hinge
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Uh lemme check

pale kettle
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highest damage person i think

cinder crag
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Switch Shem with Brutus , Brutus in front of saveas the rest stays after dealing with upper enemies you should be dealing with Brutus , in that case wait for his shield to pop and use Fawkes ult

balmy hinge
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He coffins the boss The lion dude

cinder crag
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Ok great Brutus is trapped then it should work

balmy hinge
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Okay

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Nope i lost

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Maybe i shouldn't use auto

cinder crag
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Does axe throwing guy one shots Fawkes ? İn that case use your athalia to jump on him and use same strategy also don't use fawkes ult the moment lion dude's shield pops

balmy hinge
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No It does if hes low

cinder crag
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Did you switch Shem with Brutus?

balmy hinge
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uh no

cinder crag
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Do now and try again and remember to use Fawkes ult when Brutus ' immunity shield pops

unreal storm
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@cinder crag the reason the Grezhul is such a problem is because of the sheilds

balmy hinge
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K

cinder crag
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After dealing with Vedan you should be able to kill him I mean that's what I did in those stages either Niru or Vedan as priority number 1

balmy hinge
pale kettle
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Uhm it's awesome

vague idol
pale kettle
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Help 8-20

limpid pewter
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Stuck 11-22 any suggestions on what to do

cinder crag
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Yeah @balmy hinge did you win?

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Also switch brutus with saveas Brutus needs to be in front line

pale kettle
mild wing
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@limpid pewter Overlevel your saveas, you shouldn't be leveling evenly

pale kettle
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What about me

mild wing
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Try 120 saveas

pale kettle
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Uhh

vague idol
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what about me?

cinder crag
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During early game saveas is better than Shem

mild wing
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@vague idol You honestly might just need soem afk time to level more youre very under

cinder crag
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İf you can use Saveas+ Brutus to burst down Vedan first then the rest will be ez especially if tasi can ult @vague idol

pale kettle
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Where do I put my save as

cinder crag
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Though what you say it also true @mild wing

vague idol
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@cinder crag change saveas for?

mild wing
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I donno, move him around and see what works, id put him in the front to start

cinder crag
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Eironn but that might not work cuz saveas stuck at 100 lvl due to crystal

supple stratus
cinder crag
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For that to work you might have to sacrifice lyca though

pale kettle
cinder crag
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Remove Shem and use saveas , can you burst down Vedan or niru?

vague idol
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@mild wing what abut squad, whats the best i can create now?

cinder crag
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İf you have Brutus with his armor reduction skill your saveas will melt them do you have him?

balmy hinge
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I WON YES FINNALY

cinder crag
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I am happy that it worked congrats @balmy hinge

mild wing
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@vague idol If you can ascend saveas it will help greatly, hes the best to have overlevelled until 160, brutus not super great until 141

pale kettle
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WHAT ABOUT ME

cinder crag
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Read what I said above those stages all comes down to if you can burst down Niru or Vedan asap

mild wing
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@pale kettle You put in the saveas that was my suggestion, check suggested taking out shem, you can try rose or twins there maybe for support, try to position to kill niru or vedan quickly

vague idol
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okay @cinder crag @mild wing thanks for help

balmy hinge
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Thnx alot dude

mild wing
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@knotty ice Take out serius put in saveas, overlevel him, he is the carry

knotty ice
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Ok

mild wing
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@knotty ice He should be capped above your team

knotty ice
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Ight

jade folio
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No clue who to level and have on the crystal. Everything survives on the enemy team in this fight Lucius can’t even get his ult off

mild wing
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@jade folio Try arden for lucius for root and position saveas so he dps niru, niru need to die fast

pale kettle
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Hmmmmm

mild wing
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@pale kettle We gave you our best advice on your question

jade folio
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Arden gets one shot by silvina and doesn’t even get his roots off

turbid fern
mild wing
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@turbid fern Is a hard stage, your formation looks fine, you might just need more levels honestly

pale kettle
unreal arrow
turbid fern
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@mild wing It's what I'm thinking and get better as I lvl up Brutus.

mild wing
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@turbid fern Not the best answer, but often is the right one

knotty ice
mild wing
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Saveas is good when he is overlevelled

knotty ice
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I barely have any exp :/

mild wing
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Reset belinda and put saveas at 100, worth a try

knotty ice
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Ok

unreal storm
sullen surge
strange glen
mild wing
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@strange glen WHy is shem athalias target?

viral timber
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any ideas what best positioning would be? or i might just have to wait for more levels on my saveas

indigo jolt
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@strange glen
Try
Nara
Thoran/Kelthur
Shem
Grez
Kelthur/thoran

sullen surge
golden glacier
mild wing
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@golden glacier Try saveas brutus front and tasi lyca arden back, play around with the order a little

regal swallow
golden glacier
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@mild wing Will do. Thanks!

sullen surge
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@pale kettle yeah Arden usually gets a root of then tends to be blown up

wise stream
sullen surge
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@pale kettle swapped Hogan out for shem and seemed to work! Thanks for help

fleet kernel
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@wise stream use

Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Saveas

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@wise stream if that doesn't work...try

Nemora
Saveas/Estrilda
Shemira
Brutus
Arden

regal swallow
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Guys help me please

wise stream
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@fleet kernel let me try those combos

wise stream
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@fleet kernel not even close im afraid

regal swallow
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Pleas help me peeps xxxx

small grotto
idle aspen
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or what I should build towards to make it better

tepid current
sudden sparrow
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Arden
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi @tepid current

tepid current
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Really no Brutus?

sudden sparrow
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Nope pure RNG baby vedan360

tepid current
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I can get my tasi to L+, should I do so? I was gonna save to get lyca or nemora to mythic first as soon as I pulled another copy of them

robust sparrow
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I feel like I’m not moving efficiently what should I change

unreal storm
robust sparrow
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@unreal storm I’m a noob at this but I would say just stay there until you get good enough to beat it

unreal storm
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@AkshayWakshayYT#4767 I've been stuck here for 2 days

frank egret
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It’s just going to be levels. Like look at your belinda being lower level even tho she is L+; she just needs to be made more strong with xp over time and you will cruise

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I wouldn’t use something that is 2 or more ascensions behind (like a brutus only E) when others are E+ cuz the bonus stats make a big dfference

regal swallow
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Please help me 🥺🥺😭😭

median nexus
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@regal swallow next time you have enough lab coins, buy a shemira and get her to L, L+ if you can manage. Mythic her with that vedan
got now get arden to 141 so he can lock 3 people at once. perhaps he and tasi can stun the enemy long enough for you to win

unreal storm
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@frank egret if its just levels then that's insane, how many days of afk is that lol I already dumped 2 days of AFK exp in and still can't beat it.

old ore
warm ocean
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@pale kettle stage number and rest of hero's?

pallid lake
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@pale kettle try swapping arden and lyca and see how that goes? Who is tasi sleeping?

old ore
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I guess mine is hopeless

visual quiver
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Bomb you definitely need an upgrade because elite+ aka 120 won‘t cut it for long

old ore
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I don't have enough heroes to Ascend anyone

unreal storm
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Big mood

warm ocean
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@pale kettle Arden roots estrilda twice, lyca mid, tasi top, Arden bot, and swap Shem and Brutus and try them in both front spots, personally I like shem into estrilda

frank egret
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@unreal storm you also aren’t using your most powerful unit in exchange for someone who is way behind in ascensions

old ore
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Maybe if i had another purple saveas

visual quiver
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Try to switch sav with nemora and brutus with hogan. Enemy nemora needs to die and your nemora should charm kaz @old ore

unreal storm
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@frank egret I put Belinda in and she did nothing and died

frank egret
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This game really is about patience, frustrating as it is, we only punish ourselves when we try to push past barriers before we have the xp

visual quiver
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@old ore you can also try lyca instead of hogan then. She will die instantly but the haste boost can help sav kill the nemora faster

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Lyca will give you the 3+2 faction bonus too

old ore
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@Asmia#1884 didn't work

visual quiver
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Have you even leveled your lyca? She is level 1

tired dove
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Not getting the right ones from rngesus

warm rain
lone maple
visual quiver
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@tired dove you can't even make nemora L+ because you waste all your fodder heroes on useless legendaries who you don't have the copies for to make them L+

summer hatch
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Main lineup. Should I wait for shemira or level up Lucius to 200?

tired dove
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waste
not getting fodder for wilders in general

visual quiver
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yes, waste. legendary kaz lul

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there is a reason why everyone says that you should upgrade from E+ to L+. if you upgrade everything to L as soon as you can then you won't have any fodder left to upgrade the ascended heroes to M+ to raise your level cap

tired dove
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I guess thanks for the help?/s

visual quiver
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just a tip for the future ¯_(ツ)_/¯

tidal maple
visual quiver
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faction bonus isn't worth it if you give up team synergy for it. take out hogan and belinda and put in arden and tasi.

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arden where belinda is. sav opposite of sav. brutus opposite of sav frontline. you win as soon as the opposite sav is dead

untold maple
visual quiver
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@untold maple I can only post a screenshot as reference but without brutus I would have never won

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maybe your gb tank is good enough though

untold maple
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Yeah every comp I've seen uses brutus, guess I'll have to rent one tonight. @visual quiver

restive yoke
wide breach
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@knotty ice too many damage dealers, need some supports in there

knotty ice
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I replaced satrana with numisu

wide breach
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I’d also probably put Ezizh in over Rayne and saveas moved back. Once you can crystal him

indigo jolt
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@restive yoke Is Mehira ult able to interrupt eironn pull?

restive yoke
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Yeah

mental barn
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Sherima Arden Rowan Lucius and Ezizh or maybe a Saveas somewhere

indigo jolt
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Would be tempted to try run
Rowan
Mehira
Belinda
Sav
Fawkes

restive yoke
indigo jolt
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@restive yoke Like i said add Fawkes to crystal, try the above.

untold maple
visual quiver
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gz

limber copper
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gz

hard jackal
pale kettle
severe moon
lethal rivet
clear saddle
lethal rivet
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i really need to get more nemoras xD

violet sinew
vestal quartz
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I would say lyca to ascended, tasi leg+ isn't that bad since she can tp before getting killed

violet sinew
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I was thinking that especially since there are a few times I may need to put lyca in front line. Btw are you o. My flist?

vestal quartz
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if you're oblivion170 then yes haha, what a coincidence

violet sinew
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Lol yeah. Small world. Is tasi signature item worth it?

vestal quartz
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I don't think so, you should just ascend your lyca

violet sinew
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Yeah imma pull the trigger on it. Thanks. Also her 181 skill is useful

vestal quartz
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yes! goodluck and if you need some help you can dm me ig

violet sinew
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Cool thanks

regal swallow
mild wing
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@regal swallow lucius saveas arden belinda nemora gonna be your best bet probably but I think you mught be underleveled

regal swallow
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@mild wing who should I focus leveling?

tidal maple
mild wing
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@regal swallow finish Saveas to 160 asap then belinda

brittle summit
plush kelp
brittle summit
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@fierce kayak I tried that setup out and it wasn't working for me.

fierce kayak
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@brittle summit Ya.. my setup needs lots of tries tho. I won be luck RNG.

Else try using Atahlia to disable arden

sleek portal
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any screenshot for wilder faction 85? thanks

frigid jackal
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Any ideas to improve my wrizz team? Only doing 32m with this setup

shrewd laurel
sleek portal
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@frigid jackal shemira in brutus out

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@frigid jackal maybe replace raine with a rosalind
@shrewd laurel use belinda instead of shemira, shemira useless early game

frigid jackal
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Swapped shemira in for brutus and everyone died and only did 27m 😦

high oyster
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@shrewd laurel I got the exact same team just instead of shemira i use Belinda and with that I’m currently at stage 7-28

sleek portal
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@frigid jackal that's the guild hunt wrizz right? i guess you still need a healer to be in the lineup, im using baden shemira estrilda nemora rosalind, and this lineup dealt 60m when shemira was 220 and everyone else 180.. maybe the 20 level did the difference i dont know.

frigid jackal
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Yeah guild hunt

high oyster
warm ocean
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Anyone have the Mauler floor 80 screenshot?

mild wing
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@high oyster Honestly you are underleveled, give it a little time and it will be easy

worldly thorn
mild wing
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Id probably try to flip the belinda and saveas and try tasi over fawkes

worldly thorn
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doesn't make a difference. frontline just gets nuked before they get their skills up and tasi almost never gets her skill and belina is kinda garbage but I need her for the faction buff

calm hollow
clear saddle
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@worldly thorn estrilda is not good frontline, use Brutus instead

worldly thorn
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Even though he's only an epic?

warm ocean
mild wing
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@warm ocean Honestly you might need to level a little

warm ocean
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With what Ascended hero's though ? Only way I can get summons atm is to legit pay money or climb stuff which I need to level to climb

high oyster
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@mild wing ah ok that explains why the timer always runs out

plush kelp
sleek portal
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@plush kelp nemora in tasi out nemora middle back charm faerel, done

plush kelp
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Ty

brave dagger
mild wing
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At ~ even level you should be destroying it with half decent relics

clear creek
mild wing
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If youre struggling its your relics not your lineup

craggy delta
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Or your gear

brittle maple
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Can i make a lineup better than my current of sav brutus tasi nemora arden?

serene tinsel
craggy delta
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@brittle maple thats a pretty good early game lineup: position them in such a way where one of your flanks is focused on breaking through (saveas with brutus in front) while another line is focused on holding (tasi front, arden mid / nem bot corner). Eventually you can replace saveas with a real tank when ur around level ~160 and feed him to make Brutus mythic

mild wing
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@craggy delta cough cough 345? 😋

brittle maple
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@craggy delta real tank like whom?

craggy delta
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@serene tinsel meta lineup is shemira / brutus or lucius + tasi/lyca/nem or arden

knotty ice
craggy delta
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@brittle maple ulmus/seirus are solid now with all the buffs, but lucius, estrilda are also good

brittle maple
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@craggy delta id love Lucius but RNg has other plans

craggy delta
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@mild wing u need a comp for 345? @brittle maple you have a lot of time, early game is pretty much overlevel a carry (sav / brut) and get as far as you can

mild wing
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@craggy delta yeah sorry lol, that wasnt clearly said, If you dont mind id appreciagte any advice you got on it

brittle maple
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@craggy delta how long does “early game” last?

mild wing
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@brittle maple Most peolpe consider early game up to 160 usually

craggy delta
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@mild wing did it with warek, brutus, tasi, lyca and nemora @brittle maple ~chapter 20 is mid game

mild wing
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@craggy delta Last thing if you dont mind just so I can compare, at what hero level? You're aweosme thanks!

brittle maple
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Oof, that’s a ways to go lol

keen sphinx
craggy delta
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@mild wing 296, @brittle maple yes so no rush, just overleveling a few carries will get u far

brave dagger
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@mild wing I have 1 relic, it is a bubble on ultimate and I am stuck on that fight for a 2nd

mild wing
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@brave dagger that is the last fight though It looked like can you post 1 more time

brave dagger
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It is the last fight, the vacuum guy messes everything up and my team gets eat

mild wing
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but how do you only have 1 relic

brave dagger
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From the tower of time? I only started playing at the begining of this week

mild wing
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Oh no, the relics = the chests you get with the 3 choices

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I meant if you are struggling at even level, your relics must not be good, it should be easy at even level

brave dagger
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Oooh

visual quiver
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it is absolutely not easy at all. especially for beginners

brittle maple
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@craggy delta at this point, how much “overlevled” should my carry be vs the rest of the team

visual quiver
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you have a legendary sav so 140. 20-40 level above the rest

craggy delta
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@brittle maple your current set up is fine, dont level ur characters evenly if ur lookin to carry so 140 sav, bump everyone to 120 then sav to 160, then next project. It is important to get Brutus to 141 though since its a significant increase in his invicibility duration

visual quiver
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first he needs sav L+ to get him to 160 lul

brittle maple
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@craggy delta 140 sav with everyone else at 100? @visual quiver feelsbadman

brave dagger
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@mild wing so you think I should just restart?

craggy delta
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Yes there is that! So he can still bump sav to 140 first

mild wing
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@brave dagger I would, you may get better relics

brave dagger
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is there a tier of the relics?

visual quiver
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no. just get sunstone and moonstone + those spider gloves. and if you are lucky fire+icebringer too

mild wing
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@brave dagger sunstone moonstone fire bringer icebringer cacoon gloves are good for you auto pick those

craggy delta
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Yes, but go ahead and 101 brut for the road upgrade which makes attacks undodgeable

visual quiver
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actually, I think there is a tier list for relics lol but yeah, essentially only those 5 artifacts + sometimes deathly embrace which 1 hits brutus as soon as he is invisible

craggy delta
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Roar* upgrade

clear creek
craggy delta
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@clear creek pls screencap/send the fight as well

brittle maple
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@clear creek lol I’m on 9-28

craggy delta
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@pale kettle you need to overlevel your Brutus to pass that, the Fawkes will remove his immunity @clear creek i dont remember what the 9-28 encounter is bud

clear creek
fierce kayak
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Wow.. legendary Skeeter is here..

@craggy delta 👋

visual quiver
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legendary skeeter? wut

craggy delta
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@fierce kayak hello 🤭 @clear creek you can probably frontline shemira top as its pure magical damage. LB melt vs Gb and you have nice wilders - so I suggest using mercenary Tasi or Nemora along with ulmus and Gorvo bottom to try and break through. Last slot can go to your own Kaz for 25% more hp @pale kettle around 180

clear creek
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Ty so much

craggy delta
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@clear creek Hope it helps, 2 fairly good early game comps for shem build: shem / tank + 3 wilder backline (tasi, lyca and nem/arden) or Shem with 3 LB (Luc, Estr, Fawkes) and another energy generator. The former is pretty much meta and the latter is for bum-rushing ultis, especially if you add Rowan Lyca or Ezizh as your fifth

visual quiver
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shouldn't rosa be op with shemira?

clear creek
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I was thinking if running a shem/luc/estrilda/rosalina/Belinda, but maybe that's not the way to go?

craggy delta
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@pale kettle he’s fine where he is, since the rest of your team will just die - put dura’s blade or eye on him. If you can’t push past it, you simply need more levels or to ascend more maulers @visual quiver yes you’re right, rosa would be nice too

visual quiver
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I don't see the use of estrilda if shem can stay alive in frontline

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I mean, ofc she has a buff but ... there should be a better backline option

craggy delta
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@clear creek you’ll still want some kind of crowd control and fawkes is one of the best at that with his coffin.
@visual quiver 30% attack and 150 energy whenever she does her flag ceremony, knocks down the entire enemy line when she charges and her ridicule reduces the entire enemy team’s damage by 28% for 8 secs

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She is squishy tho till u get her sig item and her 181

visual quiver
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yeah, I know that her buff is good although I don't think that her buff is that strong before level 161. I'm just saying that she, as a kind of tank is backline in his formation. and he put her backline

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just looked. she regenerates 150 energy only at level 201. 100 is still good though

craggy delta
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Sure, you can freely swap out anyone there, end of the day you need to work with your own roster

clear creek
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Inky ha ing a single fakes is where I'm struggling, try to find that good mix on my rostee

visual quiver
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what

craggy delta
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?

clear creek
visual quiver
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I would put in lyca and tasi instead of kaz and treeguy. yeah he has. only elite though

craggy delta
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Do you have lyca?

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Thats enough for the haste and def down

pale rover
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Guys, when posting asking for lineup-help kindly post both your hero roster and the stage you are stuck in together in one post. It's hard for people helping to guess who you have.

craggy delta
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U can sub out kaz for lyca

clear creek
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What that message meant to say was " only having one fawkes is where I am struggling, trying to find a good mix for my roster", also i have a single lycra that can be ised

visual quiver
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he already posted his hero roster

pale rover
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@visual quiver This was a general reminder.

sand rune
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I’ve been stuck on this level (19-6) for a week. Help much appreciated.

craggy delta
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@sand rune are you getting roar off before getting stunned / rooted? Also, is your nemora able to charm the arden quick enough to get the enemy team rooted

sand rune
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No on both counts.

craggy delta
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Whats ur gear and relics like?

sand rune
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Shem has Sword and all Mythic gear, Brutus has Grace and all Mythic gear except for armor, Nemora has Drape and all Mythic except Armor, Lyca has Eye and all Mythic except Helmet, Tasi has Call and Mythic Helmet and Boots.

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What annoying is that this is my alt account and I’ve beaten this level on my Main and can’t remember how I did it.

sleek portal
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Lol I’ve seen people asking 19-6 like 20 times this week. Maybe try the search function in this channel. Something along the line of Brutus face Kaz lyca frontline tank Ogi shemira behind lyca tasi out arden in.

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It’s definitely doable with meta lineup but if you’re really desperate just hire estrilda to face Ogi.

craggy delta
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There are a few things you can do here, if you can pump a few points into nemora and tasi’s sig items to +5 then they’ll get a speed boost, if you have upgraded mythic or better boots on your casteds, you should be able to get ur cc off first. If you’re going to front Shem vs Wilders, using dura’s eye isn’t a bad idea - it will help her ulti quicker as well. Blade on Brutus is good as he can shred whoever you lane him against with spin. Nemora ideally has chalice to increase her health (and thus increasing her heals) and Lyca has Grace (hp/ dodge) so you can frontline her as a sacrifice if need be. IMO, try fronting Brutus vs Kaz, Shem top corner behind him. Tasi front since she can tele away, Nem bot corner to charm and Lyca mid (this is assuming you cant out”speed” the enemy team)

sand rune
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@sleek portal I try to search before asking. Surprisingly, this particular level has a disproportionally large amount more people asking than answering. It’s a wonky level.

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@craggy delta seems speed is my salvation. 🍜

sleek portal
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It is almost a given that Brutus has to face kaz. You can play around who to put in frontline. I think I used nemora bottom back to charm ira so she kills Ogi fast for me. Different people different method I guess. This level you definitely can’t afford to put shemira front line.

craggy delta
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@sand rune most underappreciated stat in the game by most. Agree with @sleek portal , suicide for Shem frontlining vs 5 wilders

visual quiver
sand rune
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@sleek portal @sleek portal Thanks for the assistance. I appreciate the logic and breakdown.

visual quiver
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nevermind. I won

pale kettle
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get a shemira

visual quiver
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who

pale kettle
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Shemira

visual quiver
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... who are you talking to

pale kettle
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you have her at Legendary lvl 1

visual quiver
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because I can't use her obviously

pale kettle
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why not

visual quiver
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because shemira gets good with 161+. my heroes need to be 140+ so I can level her to 161, which they aren't. but the most important reason is that I can't even level her to 161 because she is legendary. and for L+ I need 2 more copies

pale kettle
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what stage you on

visual quiver
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which means another 34 days. 12-16. I won the stage already

pale kettle
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i had only L+ at that point

visual quiver
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is that supposed to be helpful? weird flex but ok

pale kettle
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no im saying shem is good even at L+

visual quiver
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but I only have her L. I already said that I need 2 more copies for L+

fierce kayak
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@visual quiver 141 Arden is better than tasi. 2 roots becomes 3 roots

visual quiver
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I have enough dust for my whole team at 141. I just need a day for hero essence

fierce kayak
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👌

unreal storm
wide breach
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probably need to play around with your merc setup

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saveas+shemira at 117-120 isnt super great

unreal storm
wide breach
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saveas lyca tasi arden and friend Brutus miiiiiight work, but you might just need more exp

honest storm
visual quiver
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sav + brutus front, tasi + arden + nemora backline. works every time.

honest storm
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Okay thanks, nemora will be in a few minutes in reso crystal... Only missing one stone ^^

visual quiver
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but you need to play manual and not auto

lament sonnet
visual quiver
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switch lyca with tasi and give tasi lowest def

lament sonnet
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Nope that didnt work ;-;

unreal storm
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The stupid Grezhul sheilds his whole team and blocks EVERYTHING @wide breach

wide breach
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the friend nemora might work, if you can outsustain. but yea thats a big wall stage

unreal storm
visual quiver
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not sure if that helps. not everyone has a friend with m+ luc

lament sonnet
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I remember using an eironn to pull the isabella and nemora

visual quiver
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9-20 wasn't even a wall for me. I think 9-40 was

lament sonnet
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Finally beat 16-20 borrowed my friend’s L+ brutus and switched brutus and shemiras positions

broken granite
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Also 9-20 isnt as big of a wall anymore cause they nerfed it

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@mild wing bless me w your screenshots 🙏

unreal storm
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Ok ok well I had trouble with it with a bunch of E and E+ Bois

mild wing
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@broken granite I had shem and brutus flipped and nemora lyca flipped

broken granite
unreal storm
charred ermine
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Suggestions anyone?

pale kettle
sleek portal
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@pale kettle nemora middle back, done

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle ^ and drop tasi. If nemora fails to charm fareal, reset. Shem and Brutus can switch depending which one works better.

pale kettle
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no because shem gets 1 shot from grezhul

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i cant kill a single hero

sleek portal
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dura call shemira nemora middle back charm faerel, if shemira dies from grezhul just swap with brutus. that is THE ONLY way you gonna win by using meta lineup

pale kettle
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i beat it

stuck nexus
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I need help

pale kettle
wise stream
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In desperate need of help, stuck here for 2 weeks now. Did i hit a wall and do i need to break the 140 cap or is themis doable?

fierce kayak
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@wise stream try
Arden
Savaes
Nemora (try to charm brutus)
Brutus
Tasi ( Silv bait)

tawny jewel
wise stream
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@tawny jewel i know that now lol, did that on my second account and no problems there. Too late to fix this account so just need to pray for good single summons

open turtle
wise stream
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@fierce kayak didnt work, i can charm brutus, keep every hero alive except for tasi for nemora to do ult and then everything is killed very fast keavung saveas against 3 or 4 enemies

tawny jewel
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@open turtle saveas is better than shemira

open turtle
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he seems to die so quick though :\

fierce kayak
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@tawny jewel I don't have. Sorry buddy. Might be a little... under power but your set up looks fine. Tasi is Silv bait right?

Else switch tasi bait behind shem instead.

Or Shem and Brutus switch. Then maybe try nemora bottom

tawny jewel
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@fierce kayak okay i will. I am not getting even close tho. I am using 2 ults at best. I will try afew setups and just afk

fierce kayak
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@wise stream sorry bud. Maybe need a little more power and you tweak a bit your heroes or wait for others to give you better advise.

wise stream
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No worries, sitting on almost 10M hero xp so when i get another brutus ill be steamrolling 🙂

raven spindle
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I'm having one heck of a time trying to get past the last level of Lucent Vault
blew through every level except this one, what am I doing wrong?
I'm borrowing a M Lucius w sig +10 unlocked
don't chide me on my legendaries please I know they're hard to look at but I had no idea what I was doing (also ignore the second saveas, i was trying multiple comps and needed more than 1 after my first one died)
Yes, I have tried getting the health down, but the other comps I've used all die within seconds and deal like a few thousand dmg per hero

tawny jewel
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@wise stream what if you get that brutus in 1 year

wise stream
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If i get stuck for another week ill just get silvina to 160 and put her in

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Well...i got time 😂

tawny jewel
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@wise stream lol just lvl fodder up to lvl 160 and get crystal lvl to 160. You should be able to win like that

wise stream
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Yeah but i wasted all my fodder to get hetoes to legendary, big noob mistake there

tawny jewel
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@wise stream yup

wise stream
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So ill just have to sit it out a bit, wait for events to get easy summons, etc.

tawny jewel
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@wise stream just dont do the same for mythic too (there you waste 4 e+ instead of 2 )

wise stream
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Yeah got it, thanks for the tip @tawny jewel

honest storm
eager shuttle
broken egret
noble fog
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@eager shuttle Rosaline instead of Tasi

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@broken egret maybe Shem in front of Safiya and Ferael behind her.

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but that power difference is so high. put your best gears on them. I take that risk a lot . haha hoping nobody challenge my team at the arena.

broken egret
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I already got best gear on all

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Guess it's just not possible atm, wilder cc is too strong shem is only 1 alive at the points she gets to ult and just insta dies. Due to tasi banish she can't get ult up

topaz eagle
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Been stuck here for over a week, can’t even progress with hired friends hero’s, Arden and kaz either destroy my team or ogi and ira just cc and melt my team

muted blaze
bronze cove
muted blaze
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Have comepleted

unique magnet
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@bronze cove level saveas

muted blaze
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Oops wrong one

bronze cove
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Which hero do I switch with Saveas?

unique magnet
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probly hogan

muted blaze
bronze cove
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I doesn't have Lucius so :/

unique magnet
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youll want to use arden too

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id focus on brutus, shemira, arden, nemora, saveas

muted blaze
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Hogan have to be switched

bronze cove
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I'll try then

unique magnet
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shemira and saveas can both be "tanks" if over leveled

muted blaze
unique magnet
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id try

Tasi
-----Shemira
Nemora
-----Brutus
saveas

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brutus is good against ogi since when he gets thrown back he doesnt instantly die

bronze cove
unique magnet
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swap nemora and arden

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try to charm the enemy saveas

forest hedge
unique magnet
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swap out tasi for nemora nd put the sheep in the middle and try to charm ferael

bronze cove
unique magnet
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@bronze cove no, put shemira back in front, move nemora up 1

Nemora
----------Brutus
Arden
----------Shemira
Savaes

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keep trying till nemora charms savaes

cinder crag
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Yep you need to charm fera asap @forest hedge

unique magnet
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yea usually charm ferael = win on those levels

cinder crag
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Also if lyca doesn't work you still can use tasi for team cc

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Though usually with lyca haste that will be enough , but mind you that tasi can banish fera interrupting charm

unique magnet
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tasi+nem+arden usually not the best combo

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banish overlapping with charm or root makes it kinda a waste

cinder crag
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Yeah I know what I told is just an alternative

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Do you remember what you used to beat 20-33 that stage is just awful

unique magnet
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uhhhh not really

cinder crag
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Wilders suck :(

unique magnet
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20-33 wasa long time ago for me i was on map 20 for weeks, i ran through 21 so much faster

cinder crag
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İ mean it is not even a boss stage but i just can't beat it no matter what I do

unique magnet
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oh one of those, move brutus down to fight ulm for the damage bonus, try to kill him quick with good rng + a good spin. Id try to use nem to charm arden to root his own team, also keep tasi behind brutus so silv goes to brutus and not shemira . I wouldnt bother with athalia since youre gonna be charming the arden

cinder crag
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Problem is enemy Arden insta roots so I have to use athalia

unique magnet
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does your nemora have good gear for speed

cinder crag
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For some strange reason even if i use lyca he just insta roots

unique magnet
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you should be able to charm before he roots cryingmirael

muted blaze
cinder crag
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Yes she has m boots

unique magnet
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baaaaa that works i guess

muted blaze
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That lv was Annoying

cinder crag
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Nah doesn't work guess I am stuck for good

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Damn Wilders are just the worst to fight against i hate them with a burning Passion cryingmirael

forest hedge
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thank you so much guys, passed 15-40 in 1 shot

unique magnet
cinder crag
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Yeah RNG allowed me to pass too thanks

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Lol i take it back 20-36 is way worse :D now that enemy has lyca i can't charm Arden

unique magnet
cinder crag
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Getting hypogean mythic item for the 474738 time BRUHtus

tepid current
cinder crag
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İs that the viper marshes boss ?

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İf so you need to use cc and distraction ( Baden / Grezhul ) to pass i also have seen people sending one team to kill khaoss/Brutus and after losing sending another to kill the remaining enemy

tepid current
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It is vipers marsh. I have tried using lots of cc but if they get a single move off they oneshot my team. I also don't have a secondary team that's strong enough to take out a hero by themselves

cinder crag
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Then your best bet is to use Grezhul or something to keep Brutus away from using his ult on your team or just skip this peak till you get stronger

muted blaze
tepid current
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Gah that's so frustrating to just give up when I have beaten every single other camp on the map except for 3bosses

limpid quail
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can you kill other bosses and get the relics to be stronger?

tepid current
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I cud kill the lb boss, but not the other 3

muted blaze
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That is my last fight of the event but it is hard

tepid current
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Maybe I just have shit relics and need to try it again with better relics

limpid quail
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@muted blaze do you have the spider gloves (cocoon) relic? and use tasi and shemira with manual ult, use tasi ult when the cocoon ends

tepid current
cinder crag
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Yep team cc with Shem cleaning up

limpid quail
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nemora mid to charm ferael

cinder crag
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Use nemora to charm fera asap and hope for the best @tepid current

muted blaze
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@limpid quail nope chooses wrong relic then

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Then I need to start over

limpid quail
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@muted blaze then i think restart and get better relics 🙂

cinder crag
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İt's all down to RNG unfortunately

tepid current
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Should I have call or eye on shemira?

cinder crag
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Call if you don't use tasi which in that case you shouldn't if tasi banishes fera

tepid current
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Who do I put eye on then?

cinder crag
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Brutus

tepid current
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Oh ok. I have drape on Brutus rn. Who do I put that on then lol

sleek portal
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@cinder crag you're asking about the agaisnt 5 wilder lineup?

cinder crag
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İdk you should be able to pass it without needing drape

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Also yeah 20-36 and 5 wilder comps in general is just garbage

sleek portal
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@tepid current dura call on shemira, nemora middle back charm faerel, arden bottom back, lyca top, should be easy.

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@cinder crag brutus shemira top to bottom, backline i used arden lyca nemora top to bottom, arden will root enemy 2-3, charm their arden so their arden root 2-3 also, shemira dura call

tepid current
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Idk doesn't seem easy lol. I haven't ever been able to kill more than. 1 unit

cinder crag
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I don't understand what you mean by Brutus / Shem top to bottom do you mean Brutus at top Shem at bottom? @sleek portal

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İt's also way worse than before i think nemora is useless in this fight

muted blaze
cinder crag
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She can't charm anyone without getting rooted even if i use lyca

limpid quail
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@muted blaze I would take the left

muted blaze
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Ok

limpid quail
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@muted blaze how many fights have you left until the boss? ragespike could be worth it

muted blaze
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Um many for boss I can’t go there so fast cuz the paths are away

limpid quail
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then ragespike when you will be able to get it to full stacks

cinder crag
muted blaze
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Which one @limpid quail sorry for asking it the whole time cuz I want to win last battle

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Left right?

cinder crag
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Do you have ice bringer?

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Kaz poison is pretty formidable and will melt bosses quickly but fire/ice bringer is the safest pick

muted blaze
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Ok

cinder crag
mighty summit
limpid quail
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yeah full wilders is always pain in the ass

cinder crag
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They are overpowered and needs to be Rebalanced

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I don't just understand why this game blatantly favours Wilders above anything else I am pissed triggerednemora

limpid quail
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Their CC and dodge is really a pain

cinder crag
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Yeah I mean I hate to be that guy who complains but this is just so blatantly obvious to me that it is obnoxious , not only are they the king of support and cc but they are king of just straight damage ( kaz shreds Shem ) , and they refuse to die due to Ulmus and nem and their dodges sigh the more I think about it the more I just hate Wilders lol

flint cairn
muted blaze
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@limpid quail how to defeat this or should I get 5 more relics can do 5 battles and then this one???

cinder crag
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Luci Brutus sav tasi And grez should pull it off

limpid quail
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get as many relics as possible

cinder crag
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Do you have good relics ?

muted blaze
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Ok

mighty summit
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pls how do i beat this fucking 21-4 stage ? 😢

cinder crag
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İ mean it's not bad focus on brutus and eiron/ safiya and do not let eiron pull your heroes in just use tasi ult beforehand

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Honestly i understand you Wilders are the worst enemies in the game sadly against Wilders its down to RNG and being overleveled @mighty summit

lapis basalt
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I also got a Brutus Ascended, Totem boy ascended and waiting for a mythic warek, being lent

cinder crag
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Also get all the relics you can get before attempting and don't forget to pause and restart stage if you are failing @muted blaze

olive compass
cinder crag
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Can you get Shem to Mythic?

vast relic
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not yet

cinder crag
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Guess no hmm then nem tasi Belinda Brutus and grez you need to charm Brutus and just focus on bursting down Brutus and sav first then your overall cc will help though when you get Shem to Mythic reset nem And make Shem 161

vast relic
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kk thanks

hybrid shard
limpid quail
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@olive compass what stage is it? did you try meta team:
nemora
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi/arden

olive compass
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@wicked heart 18-26. Let me give the team a shot.

limpid quail
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@lapis basalt post a screenshot of the enemy formation pls

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@hybrid shard try this
lyca
shemira
arden
brutus
tasi

muted blaze
limpid quail
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@muted blaze you going with shemira for the boss? then the left = massive damage to all enemies at the start when she ults

muted blaze
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Ok

olive compass
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Hey! I did it. Thanks!

hybrid shard
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@limpid quail dont have a arden rn. And my Nemora gets oneshot, just like my Shemira gets nuked, cant even get a ult in.

muted blaze
terse vortex
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arcane spellbook ofc

muted blaze
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Ok

naive crown
limpid quail
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swap lyca and lucius

muted blaze
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@limpid quail messed up again it is hard

limpid quail
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preview the relics in the chests before taking any fight, when you have good relics there you can start fighting. restart as soon as you have shit in the chests
at least should have the ice/fire or sun/moonstone combo

sweet pasture
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What’s my best line up for stage 6 out of E+ Belinda, E nemora, Lucius, Rosa, saveas, thane, Brutus?

lapis basalt
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Any tips for mauler 80 tower against 2 wareks and 3 naras?

pale kettle
mild wing
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Brutus saveas belinda arden nemora imo, get shemira to mythic 161 and she will be the best carry then @pale kettle

pale kettle
viral timber
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any ideas? best case scenario was so far that my saveas was 1v1 with enemy saveas but couldnt finish him in the 45 seconds left XD with more levels obviously would be ez, but was wondering if someone had an idea on how to brute force it rn

mild wing
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@viral timber You have the comp id use, maybe try moving saveas around a little, prob your best bet other than waiting a little and itll be easy. Move him around and run a bunch for rng.

viral timber
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oki ty

mild wing
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Not a fun answer but thats how I see it. @viral timber

indigo jolt
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Only thing i might change is switch arden/tasi.
Or try Sav top behind lyca, and see if you can kill sav second after ogi with arden middle.
@viral timber

viral timber
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if i switch arden & tasi, she gets 1 or 2 shot by the sav, so she doesnt even get her ult off (which she does now with good rng), so that's why i have him there. but yeah, will try to swap the sav arounda bit

muted blaze
mild wing
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@muted blaze overlevel your saveas. You dont want to level evenly he should be +20-40

viral timber
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ye and afaik you dont wanna run saveas + shemira early, might aswell ditch her and focus on saveas alone, with your frontline he should be able to push you quite far

muted blaze
topaz eagle
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Can anyone help with 19-6 I’ve been stuck here a week+, can’t even go further with friends hero’s

lapis basalt
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Any help with faction tower mauler floor 80? I have level 200 units

mild wing
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THats the nara? Need to overlevel brutus higher

flint cairn
sleek portal
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@ancient oasis arden instead of tasi, nemora must charm either vurk or saveas

muted blaze
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@limpid quail can’t beat it and don’t know when I can hire friends heroes

sleek portal
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@muted blaze what's your relic's choice?

muted blaze
sleek portal
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event's ending at 4 days, if you have shit relic you're better off resetting now, then you have 3 more days to level up to close the gap between your lineup and the final boss's lineup, provided you enter the lucent vault before leveling up so they dont scale anymore. relic is the key to beat the last stage for newcomers, and also hiring mercenary is very important here. it's important to get either the sun/moon stone or fire/icebringer combo and also cocoon relic(the one that locks people for 5sec to disrupt enemy eironn and safiya). get all attack if possible. you need 1 cc 1-2 tank 2-3 dps. good luck

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@muted blaze

muted blaze
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Ty

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What is cc critical damage?

ashen schooner
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Crowd control. @muted blaze

brittle maple
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Should i try to boost saveas to 140 to clear this or bring the rest of my squad up?

prime crown
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focus on saveas

muted blaze
sleek portal
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@muted blaze reset your lucent vault now, and then re-enter. then go out reset all the level 70 and level20 heroes, and use the resources to max out the top 5 heroes. then i'd use lucius brutus saveas nemora and tasi, i will hire a mercenary dps or lucius depending if there's any casualty when i finally reached final boss. try to get the relic as mentioned. poison is good as well. AND YOU'RE SUPPOSEDLY ABLE TO SEE THE CHEST BEFORE YOU LEVEL( very important here). go enter the lucent vault and check all the chest for the right relic run otherwise keep resetting. only when youre 100% you can get the combo relic and cocoon then you proceed to go out and reset and level.

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@muted blaze i hope it makes sense. tldr version is only reset and relevel when you're 100% certain you can get the mentioned relics. you only have 1 shot since there's 3 days left in the event.

brittle maple
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@muted blaze I would also take out lucius and add in nemora for the extra faction boost

muted blaze
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Ok but I can’t hire heroes and don’t even know how and when I get it

split gull
flint cairn
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@muted blaze try get 40% more heal or 80% and leech

sleek portal
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@muted blaze you might be too low level in campaign. its okay to not have mercenary. just have to choose to right relic

muted blaze
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But resets heroes cost 20 gems @sleek portal so should I do it then?

brittle maple
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@muted blaze I focused on life leech relics and was able to clear the vault

sleek portal
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@split gull youtube Ayuh Le and Vitaly ........... on their videos. helps you clear entire chapter 20.

split gull
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@sleek portal will do, thanks

ashen schooner
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I believe you have to clear 6-40 to get Mercenaries unlocked. @muted blaze

sleek portal
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@muted blaze you basically fucked up by leveling a ton of useless heroes to level 20 and 70..... now you have to pay for it i guess... you're supposed to put the extra heroes into resonating crystal

muted blaze
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XD yea was then very noob

sleek portal
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if you're still confuse about the reset and only relevel after entering lucent then i think you'll have to find someone else to explain. my england level is shit. it's all about the enemy scaling thingy

muted blaze
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Yea need explain and I go off now need to go

brittle maple
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@muted blaze reset everything that is level 20 and lower that you don’t need. Put all of that exp into saveas. Swap out Lucius for nemora

muted blaze
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Ok ty will do tomorrow

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Bye then cya tomorrow

flint cairn
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@muted blaze do you have guild? We will open soren soon

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He drops nice gear

muted blaze
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Yea I can leave guild where I am now @flint cairn and joins your but tomorrow then

flint cairn
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If do you want soren let me know

muted blaze
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Ok

pale kettle
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Should i sacrifice saveas l + to get brutus mythic +?

limpid quail
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@pale kettle he is still usefull in faction tower to lvl 50 i think

pale kettle
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They r lvl 140

upper vessel
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sacrifice. If you will need a saveas then search in mercenary 🙂

sly sparrow
upper vessel
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already tried to win via RNG? Like 10 runs or smth? lyca on top arden mid and tasi on bottom, i would try that

sly sparrow
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i did... but it kinda seems like they all just die and leave shem do it all... sometimes she does it sometimes not

wicked bobcat
upper vessel
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just needs one tasi+shem ult at the same time

high oyster
sly sparrow
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well i got to it but i still lost.. they didnt die and i just got wrecked 😦

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tried over 10 times and nothing

sleek portal
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@sly sparrow i'd swap tasi out for nemora. arden roots 3 nemora charms their nemora charm kaz.

sly sparrow
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honestly without tasi i dont see it as doable... her sleep is too precious

sleek portal
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i dont know. i never prioritize tasi until i got to chapter 19 lol. was using arden and nemora all the way

pale kettle
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hey so right now I don’t know who I should be mainly focusing on, the tier list says saveas is godly but I don’t feel it yet
I’m trying to get a good support like nemora/nimusa
tldr I just need some backup on what I should be doing

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rn my comp is khaso fawkes grez ira brutus sometimes switching ira with Arden

sleek portal
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@pale kettle you're too early in the game, you probably started like less than 1 day or 1 day. you need to summon for 1 week+ for further advice. you can cruise through chapters now by leveling. generally go 2 tank 2 dps 1 cc or 2 tank 1 dps 2 cc or 1 tank 1 dps 3 cc.
save up your lab coin now and come back 1 week later.

pale kettle
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ok dad thank you I’ll see you in a week

sleek portal
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@violet pecan wow, bitizen's seirus yikes. anyway, brutus face brutus nemora charms vurk so vurk kills brutus to proc his shield before he ultis, shemira frontline and lyca in and use arden instead of tasi? dura call on shemira. thats what i used at least.

pale kettle
sleek portal
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@pale kettle what level faction tower is this?

pale kettle
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@sleek portal 86

sleek portal
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ok im not the right person to answer then im at 86 as well haha

frozen whale
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Just follow those that clear the stages?

violet pecan
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@sleek portal when nemora charm Vurk and Vurk poisom enemies Brutus and i pop enemies brutus poison... instead of killing his units i kill mine....

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There is like puting c4 on your car and instead of blowing your car you blowup car next to yours and your car is intact....

pale kettle
sleek portal
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@pale kettle hire a good khasos with above +10 signature item. if the khasos throwing axes procs, he will instantly kill 3 heroes in first 5 seconds of the battle.

nova fiber
pale kettle
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@sleek portal I don’t have one 😂😭

nova fiber
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Tan what is that about

supple stratus
spare girder
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Well you need good cc, have you tried Tasi?

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Tasi and High damage or Fawkes and High damage because Lucius won't deal that much damage

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Thane will do all the damaging so if you get banishments on Thane and kill the Lucius quick enough you should be good?

high oyster
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He can only use maulers @spare girder

spare girder
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Oh shoot I see

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I'm not high enough to know that lol... My squad isn't even up to 200k power 😅 😂

ember bane
ashen schooner
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@mellow hound I'd put Shemira behind Brutus, put Tasi frontline with Arden backline middle.
@lapis sand Put Nemora in place of Arden. Then try
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi

knotty ice
mellow hound
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@ashen schooner seemed worse after 10ish tries with shemira in the back

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Ya that setup is much much worse

gilded fractal
ashen schooner
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Regardless, you do need a buffer from the Ogi and he'll destroy you fast. I'd try putting Brutus up top with Shemira behind him to get rid of him but the Kaz is a huge risk. Is your Tasi fast enough to escape before Ogi grab? @mellow hound

next basin
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brutus 200 or lucius 200?

ashen schooner
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Brutus I'd say @next basin

mellow hound
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Nope, and i can't ignore Kaz, if she gets her ult it 1shots shemira. So I'm kinda screwed against a 5 stack wilder team @ashen schooner

ashen schooner
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@gilded fractal Alice... I'm just gonna say I used full meta team but I'm not sure what won it ulricry I wanna say I put Shemira behind Brutus too

next basin
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currently stuck at 21-6 dunno if I can do anything to get over it, sometimes i nearly made it but fear from thoran's fcked me

ashen schooner
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Try um
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
and reset until Kaz gets charmed @mellow hound

pale kettle
mellow hound
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No Arden? Arden >>> tasi

ashen schooner
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@next basin Put the Nemora across from Shemira, then if that doesn't do anything switch Lucius in front so Lyca is backline

next basin
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elite arden, wondering if can make it with him

ashen schooner
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@mellow hound Nemora for the charm to get Kaz to hit their Arden

mellow hound
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The enemy arden is the issue, my arden has to tangle him before he tangles me. Nemora wont even survive to charm with enemy Arden's tangle

ashen schooner
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I'm in 22 and I'm using an E+ Arden, I think you'll be fine using Arden if you decide too lol @next basin

next basin
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kinda hard to make it cuz when lucius is front line he dies too fast, cant ult, wish i had him 220 and fraction items for him

ashen schooner
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Hmm... I mean if the Arden is doing a better job then certainly. I passed by charming the Kaz away from my team so that's just personal preference. @mellow hound

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He dies to Shemira? @next basin

next basin
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yea, thats why i tried to put him in backlane and then he ults, sometimes shem and tasi survive and they ult too but still cant make it lol, really need to make shemira items M+

wanton helm
ashen schooner
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I didn't have M+ back then, I'd say maybe the Tasi needs ascension because I'm sure either her or Nemora are getting jumped by the Silvina and dying in 1-2 hits

next basin
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yeah, nemora gets jumped on, gets hit from isabella and dies :x

ashen schooner
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@wanton helm Put Vedan where Silvina is then move Mirael to the middle backline

wanton helm
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alright thanks!! ill see if that works

ashen schooner
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Mmm if that's the case maybe put Nemora in the frontline where Lyca is or where Shemira is, then Shemira behind her so she can drain ArdenS @next basin

wanton helm
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oop didn't work, most likely bc of levels im guessing? gear is maxed out even tho it's not great gear

next basin
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oh did not thought bout it lol will try, need to clear 4 brutus in tower asap to get armor for lucius with fraction bonus

ashen schooner
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Well normally Belinda is not someone that goes frontline. Who are your other heroes? You need tank(s). @wanton helm

wanton helm
ashen schooner
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Yes he is a tank. Him and Vedan can do wonders as your frontline. Then Lyca, Mirael, and Belinda.

wanton helm
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okay, thanks for letting me know!! so should i reset tapi for the xp to level him up?? @ashen schooner

lapis sand
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@ashen schooner still doesnt work out ;(

ashen schooner
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Mmm, no actually. Reset the Mirael and keep Tasi. Tasi and Lyca are extremely useful through the progression of the game. @wanton helm

wanton helm
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👌 will do

ashen schooner
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@lapis sand Switch Arden and Tasi from the screenshot lineup you sent.

unreal storm
ashen schooner
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@unreal storm See if putting Tasi in exchange for Arden will change any results.

unreal storm
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@ashen schooner still not even close

ashen schooner
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Silvina destroying you? @unreal storm

unreal storm
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Yeah her and they just aren't dying quick enough

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I got it, my Belinda just needed to be able to ult twice

next basin
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@ashen schooner switching nemora with lyca worked after 20 tries, ty :3

unreal storm
elder orchid
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have shemira tank instead of saveas

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Try arden instead of saveas, might be okay, since he's a lot of CC, and it gives your team 15% attack and hp if you do it.

unreal storm
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@elder orchid only problem is that the silvina instakills him

wanton helm
elder orchid
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@unreal storm Then you just gotta wait and level up your heroes a bit more, silvina was the bane of my existence.

unreal storm
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@elder orchid yeah I mean I have TONS of hero XP I just don't have the gold to level them up

elder orchid
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Happens, just try a lot of different line ups, otherwise wait.

wanton helm
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(if anyone has help on mine that'd be mucho appreciated)

mild wing
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@wanton helm I will look 1 moment

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@wanton helm it's chapter 4 right? In the early chapters honestly sometimes your just gonna have to wait a little, give it half a day and youll breeze through

pale kettle
mild wing
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@pale kettle#835you need a high dps carry 20-40 levels over the rest of your team, leveling evenly is aq mistake. Generally building a saveas is best up to level 160, shemira is best after.

wanton helm
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@mild wing yep, thanks!! it's 4-32 i believe, so wait half a day and use the xp from the afk to level up to beat it??

pale kettle
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@mild wing aight will try but my saveas is not even elite+ sadly

mild wing
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@pale kettle Even at elite he is very good, or try overlevelling the shem, shes not as good pre 161 but either way you need an overlevelled hero @wanton helm Yea I would, early on there will be a few times it's necessaryh

pale kettle
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Aight I'll invest in her so or try to get copies of Sav

torn lava
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11-40 any ideas? :/ read through past people and seems all lineups have Brutus.. actually a merc Brutus helped me crack 11-38 but I’m stuck again..

jade folio
mild wing
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@torn lava Have you tried saveas and tasi over belinda and rowan/mehira? Because that is what I would try first

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Or take out hendrik and put saveas front line

torn lava
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Their burst is just insane.. I try to put Rowan/mehira for survivability but.. still die really quickly

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I think I need a way to early disrupt khasos/mirael

mild wing
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Saveas is gonna have higher survivability than either and tasi for banish and sleep cc or an Arden for roots esp if you can have him at 141 if gonna be best

pale kettle
mild wing
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@pale kettle find someone who has a high ascension warek and mercenary it, thats the easiest way honestly

ashen schooner
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Need a higher leveled Ascended Brutus

pale kettle
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Wares? Gonna try that! Thankies, tugey! 🤗

mild wing
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^ or that, 60 nad 80 mauler are 1000x easier if you find someone with a mercenary

ashen schooner
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I don't even think I used Warek for that, damn I shoulda tried that thoran_ping

fossil relic
mild wing
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Brutus better 80 but Warek for 60 AFAIK

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Need to burst down a luscius so they cant keep spamming shields, mehira heals from dmg to allies, and tasi gonna tasi @fossil relic

torn lava
mild wing
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@torn lava Yeah thats more or less what I was suggesting, saveas is a good frontline and dps and tasi and arden will cc

fossil relic
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I do -160 damage to Lucius lol this stage is impossible

velvet hearth
#

When does faction towers unlock

ripe cipher
mild wing
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15-1 @velvet hearth

velvet hearth
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Oh that's why I am still in 11 :5

mild wing
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@ripe cipher I would overlevel Saveas, maybe try swapping in Tasi for CC for either belinda or luscius

torn lava
muted blaze
velvet hearth
ornate totem
mild wing
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@muted blaze Try arden for belinda @velvet hearth Saveas gonna be stronger than shem until 161, try resetting and swapping for right now. Backline loooks fine but id put nemora on top for charm

muted blaze
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Ok

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@mild wing still defeated but the boss Kaz was down

mild wing
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@muted blaze Try it a bunch for rng, move saveas around a bit

muted blaze
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Ok

vernal berry
velvet hearth
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@mild wing the sniper keeps bursting my saves down

mild wing
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@velvet hearth Flip nemora back to bottom then and try to charm him. @old ore Your saveas should be +20-40 levels overlevelled

old ore
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Can't ascend him

stone lynx
mild wing
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Ah 120 cap @old ore , just saw that

stone lynx
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14-37, stuck

old ore
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There's nothing more i can do really. I guess i should just wait it out... Such shitty drop rates :/

mild wing
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@old ore Id take out hogan and numisu and try rosa and twins, saveas in hogans frontline spot

velvet hearth
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She keeps charming the FLer -_- fml

stone lynx
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should i put in nemora for lucius?

mild wing
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@stone lynx I would put shem frontline where lucius is, you can try nem backline

ornate totem
mild wing
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@ornate totem Id try arden or Brutus

ornate totem
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Brutus gets fast rooted and killed and arden too!!

pale kettle
vernal berry
lethal ember
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What about using ur Belinda?

vernal berry
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Mine? I is only e

lethal ember
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@pale kettle

pale kettle
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instead of who?

vernal berry
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Arden

lethal ember
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Remove Arden and afterwards make Tasi and Belinda switch

unreal storm
lethal ember
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@vernal berry why don't u make Shemira backline so she can last longer?

vernal berry
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Because i cant put anyone else front