Hello, I have a Lightbearer/Graveborn lineup but had no luck getting shemira this far.
I recently got my second copy of Baden and am curious if it is worth investing into him or not.
#lineup-help
lofty smelt
grand dragon
Can I show me ur full lineup?
glass moat
i get really close my shemira ults and is close to the heal and if i get that i would win but i cant
brittle summit
I'm having trouble clearing 19-37. Anyone have any suggestions for this one?
flat flax
Any advice for lineup? 22-32..
sly sparrow
Any idea? 14-12
fierce kayak
@brittle summit
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
@sly sparrow try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
thorn tapir
Wouldnt wilders be the answer but my widers kinda weak
sly sparrow
well it worked haha... weird tho considering brutus is my main tank... ty @fierce kayak
calm tendon
Hey guys what faction should I pick with a faction token / what unit should I be looking to get?
mild wing
@calm tendon Wilders are going to be your best bet, Tasi Nemora lyca arden are going to be your best backline
pale kettle
calm tendon
@mild wing Shouldn't saveas be in the backline?
mild wing
@calm tendon Saveas can frontline if hes overlevelled just fine
calm tendon
😮 okay
grand dragon
Henlo ppl. Help would be appreciated
pale kettle
Am stuck would appreciate any help as to which heroes I should be looking to ascend get etc
fierce kayak
@sly sparrow do rmb this setup against wilders
jade abyss
Am hard stuck on how to proceed to progress cant really lvl anyone to a higher tier as i dont know who to use a food
indigo jolt
@jade abyss Stop ascending ascended tier for now. Best bet is to make only L+ legendary tier,so would start working on Silv, Arden and a Morvus maybe.
mild wing
@jade abyss I would read the pin in #classic-questions about ascending heroes, it will be very valujable for you, you rushed too many legendaries not waiting for L+
shrewd depot
I’m hard stuck 🤦🏽♂️
I think I’m going down the same path as the guy above. But just not as far yet.
ashen schooner
Needs more damage. Try adding your Vurk or Silvina in place of Rowan. @shrewd depot
shrewd depot
@ashen schooner I usually add my Mirael for more dps, but honestly my tanks just get nuked off start and then yeah.
I’ll try it though
Yeah, same story unfortunately.
ashen schooner
Hmmm. Probably could try swapping in Nemora as well. Depending on who does the most damage, try to hit Vurk or Isabella with Nemora charm. @shrewd depot
weak oak
shrewd depot
@ashen schooner one thing I could do is get Silv to legendary. I was saving my 2 extra ascended for Shemira but idk.
weak oak
What would be my best guild hunt teams?
lofty smelt
I use Lucius, Belinda and Grezhul consistently however the last 2 places are often occupied by Saveas, Estrilda, Arden or mercenaries.
What character/s would suit my lineup best to take up the 2 inconsistent slots?
Also, what character should I get first to be lvl 101
Ps, I need 1 Niru to get Grezhul to legendary
indigo jolt
@weak oak
Would try Shem Lucius/Estrilda Grez Rosalina Belinda
Lucius definetly for Soren, you may get better damage from surviving rather than the boost of estrilda.Depends for Wrizz.
rapid jungle
Hey Im quite new to the game (1 week) and have trouble building a team with the following heroes:
Im not sure which of these heroes I should use and level to progress better in the game.
pale kettle
@lofty smelt so as far as the first to push to 101 I would recommend Lucius for added survivability. Now for the last two Saveas and Athalia are your best bet. If you find the glass cannon option is not working for you. Swap out Athalia for Arden
wet kindle
I need a lineup please help
pale kettle
@rapid jungle I am highly jealous of your luck so far. I would swap Thane out for rowan so you have two support of Nemora and Rowan on the back line and fawkes as your third. And frontline I would recommend Hogan and Golus. You don’t have to worry much about faction bonus at this stage of the game. Also you should only have the top five with hero exp poured into them. I would recommend resetting Golus so he already get lvl 61 from crystal and you can poor the points into fawkes
lofty smelt
@pale kettle what about estrilda? Wouldn’t Estrilda + Athalia give a better faction bonus?
rapid jungle
@pale kettle Thank you for your suggestion. What should I do with Warek then? Is he bad? I already leveled him to level 81 so it would be a waste wouldnt it? :o
devout idol
Any tips? Lucius just walks in and gets instakilled in 0.1 seconds
lofty smelt
@rapid jungle I had Warekon another account and to cut things short he isn’t a good character, he is not enough of a tank to hold off the enemy and doesn’t deal as much damage as Brutus
pale kettle
@lofty smelt so the faction bonus is better but you’re early enough in the mid-game that you don’t need that last little bit of help. And Saveas and Athalia together are a force to be reckoned with. They destroy backline and Athalia has an insta interrupt at the start of the match that makes her amazing against cc users. @rapid jungle so I would reset Warek. He’s not bad, it’s just that for mid-game there are better heroes.
lofty smelt
So should I put atahlia ahead of Saveas??
indigo jolt
@devout idol Tasi banishes Ferael i believe on that stage. So drop tasi for nemora, and retry till charm ferael. If lucius still nuked too hard even with optimal cc, switch in Brutus.
strange glen
rapid jungle
So to make sure I understood it correctly: I should reset Warek and Golus and level Rowas to 61 and put Golus into the crystal and spend the remaining points from resetting Warek to level up Fawkes higher? @pale kettle
pale kettle
Well she does a teleport to the other side of the field so stacking won’t really help. Plus she’s a high mobility character that’ll be all over the field @lofty smelt
muted blaze
Need some advice I have a team in mind: Brutus, shemira, Ulmus, Lucius and Nemora. I am at chapter 6, I can buy shemira in shop so is this a good team or can it be better with my heroes?
lofty smelt
So I’ll keep things the same, Lucius 1, Grezhul 2 Belinda 4 and Saveas and Athalia 3 and 5?
@pale kettle
rapid jungle
btw @pale kettle I will get Belinda from the login reward tomorrow. Is she someone I also want to get into the team?
thorn tapir
woven monolith
Using this as my main lineup until I get either the units I want or until I increase my team's survivability a bit.
thorn tapir
muted blaze
@woven monolith do you know a better team that I can make?
Need some advice I have a team in mind: Brutus, shemira, Ulmus, Lucius and Nemora. I am at chapter 6, I can buy shemira in shop so is this a good team or can it be better with my heroes?
pale kettle
@lofty smelt correct, @rapid jungle and yes I would recommend incorporating her into your team she’s really good at dealing damage and staying alive.
rapid jungle
Okay thank you for your help
muted blaze
Seems the helpers are offline
thorn tapir
@muted blaze
Tanks: lucius and brutus
Back: belinda nemora tasi/fereal
pale kettle
@muted blaze I am 14 levels of jealous at your lineup. I wouldn’t use Ulmus and just have Brutus and Lucius as your tanks and frontline. Backline I would say Tasi, Nemora, and Belinda
muted blaze
Tasi or fereal have both?
thorn tapir
Fereal like shemira
And taking shemira you need her so i would take fereal and shermira once you get get
My line up like yours backline i run belinda M, fereal L+, and shemira M
muted blaze
Tasi for sleep but Fereal for damage
But I have Ulmus E+ and Brutus and Lucius not so Brutus replace for Ulmus ?
So is the change big or small E+ or E?
indigo jolt
@strange glen
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
muted blaze
@thorn tapir E replace for L is big change but E for E+ not right?
indigo jolt
@muted blaze While their is a boost from using different tiers (e , e+ etc) you're better off focusing on making a strong comp. The main benefit of using higher tiers is it allows you to go to a higher level.
i also noticed you have more than 5 heroes levelled.
For some beginner advice, read the pins in #classic-questions .
muted blaze
My current team
open quartz
If someone could help me with a line up I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm getting high enough now where lineups matter and I'm still new to this aspect of the game.
muted blaze
And have got Skreg 1 min ago is he good with his big animal?
indigo jolt
@muted blaze Skreg is not very good.
thorn tapir
Tree guy nit good
muted blaze
I have 2 tanks and 2 support and 1 mage
void dock
Tree guy not really good in your team but its gonna be hell when you face him as an enemy...
indigo jolt
@muted blaze Ulmus isnt that good early, replace with Brutus.
You're equal levelling, and its better to overlevel you carry( which is belinda for that line up) but Saveas is generally regarded as one of the best early game carrys.
muted blaze
But @indigo jolt don’t get Saveas have him now rare+ : /
Oh have and idea put him in wishlist xD forgot that
clear saddle
@open quartz probably run your top 5 until you get an arden
indigo jolt
You can start working on him for now, its not essential to use him, Just highly regarded.
All down to how you want to play the game, i.e with heroes you like, or go through fast eetc.
open quartz
@clear saddle who's Arden?
clear saddle
@open quartz old dude with the staff, roots people, super good overall
open quartz
And as far as levels. I'm willing to reset leves to boost others if needed.
indigo jolt
@open quartz 2 Below Saveas.
muted blaze
@indigo jolt Ulmus helped me to defeat the last boss cuz he planted Brutus (enemy) so Belinda can hit him so he is then for a few seconds stuck
vital robin
Who should I ascend? Or should I wait
clear saddle
@vital robin just wait i think, but aim towards that M shem
pale kettle
^
mild wing
@vital robinid read the pin in #classic-questions you are ascending too fast and have too many Ls
ivory fable
Any idea?
indigo jolt
@muted blaze Not every level can be done with the same way with different heroes. Generally Brutus will be stronger, as he will unlock his 4 sec immortality.
clear saddle
also @vital robin try not to ascend heroes only to L, only ascend them if they can reach L+ straight away, or else you risk wasting fodders
vital robin
Ooftey oof
open quartz
Is Thoran Worth Accending to Legendary?
muted blaze
Ok so Brutus and Lucius and my back line nemora Tasi and Belinda or should I use shemira instead for Tasi? @indigo jolt last question and then I know what to do
clear saddle
@ivory fable lemme check if i've got an ss for that... but i think you need an arden
indigo jolt
If you plan on using Belinda as Carry, stick with Tasi for now. Shemira is good later on.
clear saddle
@ivory fable
daring matrix
Shem is op as always
muted blaze
Wait @indigo jolt what lv are you in afk?
lethal rivet
indigo jolt
@muted blaze You mean stage? Ch 20 - 16 i think.
lethal rivet
cant upload two images on desktop oof
muted blaze
Oh ok that’s why you know the things and help people
clear saddle
@lethal rivet
muted blaze
@clear saddle how did you won that is it shemira that did the most damage?
lethal rivet
my nem is only epic rn so i dont think she'll do enough? idk
clear saddle
@lethal rivet only need shem to tank the silvina, nothing else,
@muted blaze yep, shem ult + tasi ult usually gets the job done
muted blaze
Ok I will buy then shemira in shop it looks OP
clear saddle
@muted blaze yeah, that should be your main priority for the middle-later stages of the game. an M+ shem can get you to ch19 or so
daring matrix
You buy Shem and Nemora from the shop right?
indigo jolt
@daring matrix 1 Nemora, rest Shem till you have enough for Ascended.
clear saddle
^
@lethal rivet you want to lower your nemoras defense all the way, remove all her gear, put all the best stuff on shem, 2nd best on tasi, need both to survive and ult at the same time
lethal rivet
how do i get her to jump my shemira instead? she always goes on my arden first
daring matrix
@indigo jolt and after that Nemora again?
muted blaze
So for now chapter 6 is it not so good @clear saddle ?
indigo jolt
@daring matrix Probably, but at that point will depend alot more on what heroes you have.
@muted blaze You already have nemora, so keep buying Shemira's, so you can work on her for later.
daring matrix
Ok thanks!
clear saddle
@daring matrix yep, its quite common for these 2 heroes to be your main ascended, since you can get so many copies so easily
muted blaze
But nemora buying or shemira buying it is hard to choose @indigo jolt
clear saddle
@muted blaze its better to start prepping for later on, which is why you focus on buying shem and hope the timing coincides with when saveas falls off
indigo jolt
@muted blaze You'll get stuck later probably, if you dont get Shemira copies every reset unless you get alot of her from summons.
daring matrix
Ok @clear saddle thanks again
clear saddle
np
turbid fern
Hello, any idea for 16-36 please ?
indigo jolt
@turbid fern
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Want silv to jump to Tasi.
clear saddle
damn, how r u so fast lmao
lethal rivet
@clear saddle even with absolutely nothing on my nemora she still gets ulted first
clear saddle
@lethal rivet thats the point, you want the nemora to die instantly to the silvina, so that the rest of your mages arent targetted
turbid fern
@indigo jolt Ok thank you, I'll give it a try. It worked ❤
lethal rivet
ahhh i thought you meant i wanted shem to get jumped first xD
clear saddle
nonono, you want your shem to survive the longest, which is why arden and tasi are used, their crowd control stalls the enemies until your shem can ult and hopefully kill them all
lethal rivet
oof so close but vedan bats are annoying ;w; thing im there with a few more retries
clear saddle
just rng it out :), also 181 shem is a real power spike, helped me clear it
lethal rivet
am a few fodder graveborn away from ascended shem, probably get it in a few days
brazen island
clear saddle
thats great
brazen island
Hey guys some advice pls which wilder should I mythic 1st? Considering my team
clear saddle
Nemora probably, can get lots of copies from lab shop and get her A later
brazen island
Her A? Sorry what is it
woven monolith
Currently using this, as it's my most survivable team at the moment, but are there any better ones? I usually use Tasi instead of Rosaline (putting Fawkes in front), but she always gets killed before her skills do any good. Also, any units that I have that I should work to invest in?
clear saddle
Ascended sorry
brazen island
Oh thanks @clear saddle
clear saddle
@woven monolith keep levelling your belinda, maybe use tasi and arden instead of sav and fawkes? since bel shud be your main dps
turbid fern
Stuck at 16-40, any idea please?
fierce kayak
@turbid fern try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
clear saddle
@turbid fern can your arden root first bottom with eye?
turbid fern
I'll give it a try with both setups
wooden verge
I'm stuck with this laggy nonsense. There's too much healing going on
clear saddle
@wooden verge use belinda instead of grez or baden? need her to nuke them before they can heal/ult
turbid fern
@fierce kayak I get crushed hard. @clear saddle Arden can root first with eye but my shemira gets killed before using her ulti
wooden verge
Ah okay I'll try that
clear saddle
@turbid fern i think you run shem against the kaz, you need your arden to root the kaz arden etc. lemme see if i have ss
@turbid fern theres my setup i used
turbid fern
Intersting @clear saddle . was brutus backline ?
indigo jolt
Order in photo, is positons 1 - 5 going down.
clear saddle
@turbid fern it goes in order of position brutus first so he's position 1, at the front, shem 2nd so position 2 and so on and so forth
turbid fern
Ok thanks @indigo jolt & @tueday. I'll try that now
clear saddle
kk gl buddy
wooden verge
@clear saddle thanks so much that did the trick ヽ( 'ω' )ﾉ
clear saddle
@wooden verge nice, grats 🙂
turbid fern
Is dura's call the best for shemira though ?
clear saddle
Once you clear vipers marsh, i usually use blade, and been using that in ch21. call i usually put on tasi
turbid fern
Ok thank you. So far no luck
brazen island
Im at chap 16, should I sacrifice my arden now @clear saddle
clear saddle
nonono, keep it, i only sacrificed mine at the end of ch20. there are still lots of silvinas and his ascension affects his casting speed, so you want to keep him at L+ for now @brazen island
fierce kayak
@turbid fern depends. Everyone have difference preference. Shem is good with most relics. Call Grace Blade Eye. Depends on situation too and maybe what your other teammates need..
Previously I use eye, now blade.
clear saddle
Yeah, eye is good until you get blade, but you also need eye for arden soo ¯_(ツ)_/¯
stable scarab
Stuck on 9-12 please help
cinder gust
I got stuck at 16-36 any advices?
clear saddle
@stable scarab show rest of your heroes too pls? also take out shemira or saveas, whichever deals less dps, replace one with tasi and another one when i can see the rest of ur heroes
clear saddle
@stable scarab who deals more damage overall? shem or sav? take out the one that deals less damage for tasi, see how it goes
turbid fern
Thanks for the advice @fierce kayak & @clear saddle I'll keep that in mind and try hard 16-40 until the rng god is in my favor
clear saddle
@cinder gust do you have space in your crystal for tasi? if so then also post the stage pls tq
open quartz
Is Thoran worth ascending Legendary?
stable scarab
Sav deals way more. Switched it out, I did better but still not a win
cinder gust
@clear saddle just waiting for timer
fierce kayak
@turbid fern g luck buddy. Sorry can't help much
stable scarab
Let me swap around and try some more
clear saddle
yeah, this game is a lot about experimenting
stable scarab
Ok actually that worked :D thanks @clear saddle !
I don't understand Tasi, is she just straight support?
drifting root
Any idea? Stuck here and doesen't seems to get better in any way. Silvyne goes on arden>tasi and kills them with the next auto
clear saddle
@stable scarab yes, tasi is just a support, her cc is super good
@drifting root use arden instead of tasi? take of all of tasis gear and put her at the bottom back, replace that mauler girl with brutus and have him in front of tasi
brisk tapir
Any toughts ?
pale kettle
Just wanted to make sure I was running the best possible lineup. Think it could just be a levels or ascension issue.
lucid iris
muted blaze
Which tank should I choose I will use Lucius but then don’t know which one Brutus, Gorvo or E+ Ulmus need some help???
merry bloom
What’s the best line up here for campaign
muted blaze
@clear saddle you know what tank hero good is for now and later?
clear saddle
Lucius now and later, Brutus especially later. @merry bloom from what I can see, sav Brutus Lucius tasi and nemora
Anyway I’m gonna go sleep, see you all later 👋
pale kettle
@muted blaze so your lineup is a bit too tanky right now. You need more damage dealers and support.
As Tuesday said Brutus for later, so I would recommend Khasos, and Lucius for front lineup Belinda, Tasi, and Nemore for the backline
muted blaze
@pale kettle but what 2 tanks I have Lucius as tank but what last tank so I have then 2 tanks
Back line I have already nemora Tasi and Belinda
Need 1 tank more but can’t choose out Brutus, Gorvo and E+ Ulmus
little echo
Need some help in lab.. Can't kill lucius
faint mountain
Who's a better DPS at 141, Belinda or Shemira? I've got them both at L+, for the rest I'm using Lucius, Henrik, Tasi, Nemora at lvl 10-20.
austere jasper
So I'm buying the burtus pack and I wanted to add him to my lineup my line right now is ulmus grovo saves antandra arden but wanted to change it to Brutus lucuis saves blenda antandra
Dos that sound better?
brittle maple
Should i take my tanks to 91 and then saveas to 120 or 120 saveas first?
faint mountain
If your tanks can live through incoming damage long enough to get ults up, I'd say your DPS
They're just buying time for your damage dealer, anyway
muted blaze
Which tank to choose Brutus, Gorvo or Ulmus E+? I have Lucius as tank 1 and back line nemora Tasi Belinda
pale kettle
@muted blaze don’t use Brutus until 101. Use Gorvo until then.
austere jasper
So I'm buying the burtus pack and I wanted to add him to my lineup my line right now is ulmus grovo saves antandra arden but wanted to change it to Brutus lucuis saves blenda antandra
pale kettle
@austere jasper that lineup works, but remember that you are removing your only cc support in the form of Arden
austere jasper
Would it be better or worse?
pale kettle
It’s a bit situational. But you should be fine.
austere jasper
I mean I could always keep arden there since there is a crystal thingy to keep em leveled sorta the same
glass moat
muted blaze
sharp egret
step one is screen cropping help
muted blaze
What 5 heroes should I lv up?
I want Belinda Nemora and Lyca for back line but which for front line? I am thinking about Kaz seirus warek to choose out that for front and back mabye a switch for saveas but need front any good team that I can make?
wind radish
Do I just need to keep resetting until I get better relics to complete this?
indigo jolt
@wind radish You need to start the fight with full energy on Tasi (using Duras call), will stop eironn pull.
Better relixs will help ofc, but would say this VoW is easier then previous.
pale kettle
Any tips getting one shot hard
muted blaze
@indigo jolt need some help I am noob : /
wind radish
I don't have duras call, but I'll try getting full energy on tasi before the fight. thanks
mild wing
@muted blaze saveas overleveled carry is the strongest hero up until 160
muted blaze
Ok @mild wing but for who should I replace it nemora Belinda or lcya
indigo jolt
@pale kettle You dont have a carry. Brutus cant ever really solo carry, try Sav for Lucius.
Nem botton to charm enemy Sav.
loud osprey
Anyone that can help me? Tower 237
mild wing
@muted blaze overleveled saveas can go frontline
muted blaze
But what is overleveled @mild wing for me is lv61 good cuz I am noob
mild wing
@muted blaze level him till hes capped by ur other heroes itll be +20-40 above then level others to the minimum then level saveas again. That's overlevelling
Also it looks like you have more than 5 heros leveled..... you only need 5 with crystal or you're just wasting resources
muted blaze
Yea but don't know which 5 heroes
loud osprey
Doesn't matter u can swap em latwr
muted blaze
Know for sure nemora lcya and Belinda
loud dagger
@loud osprey i practically remembered someone did that with an ira
Ira, ferael +10, uhh
Smh
cedar canyon
How the fuck. do i do this they are unkillable
loud dagger
I forgot the others
muted blaze
But need to know what 2 heroes for tank then I have 5 heroes to lv up @mild wing
indigo jolt
@cedar canyonRoster?
loud osprey
@loud dagger damn i dont have an ira and my feral is weak😂😭
loud dagger
Rip
Wait
Just a 
ira and one ult is enough in dat stage
Your key heroes are the heal nerfers
cedar canyon
@indigo jolt
indigo jolt
@loud osprey Can try usong Rosalina for double Shem ult.
Something like
Nem
Shem
Ros
Brutus
Arden
If yoyr cc is faster.
muted blaze
@loud dagger what are my best 5 heroes to lv up (I am at chapter 6)?
loud osprey
Yeah
loud dagger
. . . Chapter 6? Why i see a lvled warek?
He dont have any use
Till 
+
And thats soren raid alone
cedar canyon
Warek isnt bad early early he just falls off horribly mid then he becomes good late again
muted blaze
Fiffy how can you use friends heroes?
loud dagger
Anyways gettin on topic
cedar canyon
Mercenary feature bro.
mild wing
@cedar canyonhes in 6, mercenary chap 7
indigo jolt
@cedar canyon Jist run
Shem Brutus/Grez lyca nem tasi
Call on Tasi, and prep ults for fights.
If still a problen ping me.
muted blaze
XD so noob in this game don't know what to lv up and what not 
loud dagger
Ch6 hmm
I think youll benefit if you invested on these
Arden, saveas, belinda, hogan, yeah those 4 for now
mild wing
Maybe a lyca as well @muted blaze
cedar canyon
Agreed with K arden should be nr 1 priority i still use him regularly chapter 20
cedar canyon
@indigo jolt Ill try thanks.
drowsy wyvern
Hey I know you’re not supposed to use ascended tier hero’s as fodder but what Graveborn ascended tire hero isn’t really worth saving?
muted blaze
Ok so what heroes to use now @loud dagger ?
loud osprey
Save em all
loud dagger
GB . . .
cedar canyon
Any grabeborn ascended is good graveborn is nuts late game.
loud dagger
@muted blaze i use everything except shemira
sly sparrow
Please help with 14-37
loud dagger
GB is mid to late game
loud osprey
Shemira shines later like 181
loud dagger
And all of them works like nuts
cedar canyon
Wait you dont use shem late game? I cant do anything without my shem
tho
mild wing
@cedar canyoni dont anymore
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
loud dagger
@cedar canyon yeah i dont use shem
Why ye surprised ?
Till now at ch 21
No shemira
muted blaze
So I can just lv 5 heroes @loud dagger so seirus Kaz lcya nemora and Belinda is good
loud dagger
Seirus isnt worth it without his sig gear . . . Ngl
Nemora . . . . I rarely use her anywhere except PoT so yeah good investing on her
Belinda is one of my Guild Hunt scorers
Lyca is you know . . . . . Everyones best friend
Kaz is situational
Unless wilder tower
Or hard lab wrizz
sly sparrow
@indigo jolt it doesnt work dude... :/
knotty chasm
Top row is my team so far. Just curious what my best team could be right now
muted blaze
@loud dagger make team for me, have enough gems to reset heroes
loud dagger
Youll have fun with him for guild hunt etc
indigo jolt
@sly sparrowFlip it upaide down.
loud dagger
@muted blaze dont just dint
cedar canyon
@loud dagger shem is the only reason i got to where I am lol.
loud dagger
Reset when you can take advantage of the lvl cap
And you dont have enough E+ heroes
That comes for the later
foggy radish
What can i do? 11-32
loud dagger
@cedar canyon smh no creativity
Nemora in front of saveas
Lyca out
Arden bottom
Saveas mid
indigo jolt
Shem can still carry @cedar canyon, just no longer the best post 220/240 all. Does eventually fall off around ch25/26 completely been told.
sly sparrow
@indigo jolt still not working... everyone dies then they just pluck all ultimates onto my shem
devout berry
16-40. Read through previous replies and this seems to be the most recommended. Shem dies too fast to Kaz to do anything though. What artifacts go on who?
loud dagger
Youll start ditching shemira midway ch 24
muted blaze
Can anyone make a team for me
muted blaze
Need some good heroes like on my main account
loud dagger
Yeah
So ill say stick to them for now
And ascend arden
And saveas
They cheese out stages early game
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow Who is banisjed?
sly sparrow
@indigo jolt shemira
muted blaze
Saveas is elite on this account on main account rare + dont get him on main to ascend him xD
bronze lance
Please, do someone can help me to make a team around my strongest heroes, i'm stage 11
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617024964607868930/617025203914145823/Screenshot_20190830-175721_AFK_Arena.jpg
Thank you.
cedar canyon
@indigo jolt bro i was stupid i could just skip the fight by stepping on all tiles thought that happened automatically when opening chests LOL. ty anyway
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
plush kelp
Any idea for 14-34
indigo jolt
@cedar canyon np, gl finishing off.
jagged plover
This shouldn't be a wall. I don't know why I'm stuck. 19-19
sly sparrow
@jagged plover trust me im thinking the exact same thing
jagged plover
@sly sparrow
Try
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
stable mason
Is Rowan crazy good, or should I use one of my Elite+s to get Belinda to Epic?
cedar canyon
@indigo jolt lmao now i cant beat last fight
jagged plover
All g. I beat it
indigo jolt
@cedar canyon Have tasi ult ready for start?
cedar canyon
@indigo jolt yes i had it but shem got recked by the brutus in one ult for some reason
indigo jolt
Wasmt Brutus Skreg destroys.
cedar canyon
You would try the same setup as for the lucius team?
indigo jolt
Yes, can try sticling athalia on Safiya as well
cedar canyon
My athalia is epic+.. somehow almost vip 13 only 2 athalias..
uncut sapphire
Hi ! Can anyone help me beat 16-20 please ?
indigo jolt
Oof. Doesnt matter is to stop Saf shiled.
@uncut sapphire
Try swapping arden/tasi, or completely flipping up/down.
vagrant marten
Hi, can someone help me with beating 7-36? I stuck there for 2 days, I swapped my team so many times, nothing works.
uncut sapphire
@indigo jolt Thanks ! The first option worked
broken egret
@barren ravine if you relevel your units in a different way, making sav 160 and the others lower im pretty sure he can carry you quite a bit further
unreal storm
Please help, I'm stuck
broken egret
@unreal storm try sav behind brutus and swapping in arden for belinda
wet kindle
I need a New lineup please help thank you
barren ravine
@cedar canyon I sent my roster earlier but I tagged the wrong person
torpid moss
hushed valley
Hard stuck 14-35. Not even a boss level. 😦
calm orchid
sharp hornet
Need some help with this stage?
@hushed valley it took a lot of rng but I finally got it down with tasi, nemora, arden, Brutus and shem. Though I needed multiple pieces of Mythic equipment on shem to keep her alive
@wet kindle make arden 141+ over lucius and work on getting shem to 161 if possible.
pale kettle
Help pls 10-28
covert osprey
What gets targeted by saveas ? Hendrik or Lucius ?
pale kettle
Lucius
teal galleon
broken granite
@pale kettle u just gotta AFK till u make sav L+, level him to 160 so he can solo carry, reset your team to 120/121(depending if u can afford making sav 141 w dust or not)
pale kettle
@broken granite so once i level him up who should I switch him out with
My backline rn is belinda rosaline and tasi
broken granite
it always goes: carry > tank > backline when it comes to leveling. Also u should get arden to L+ as well, he's fkn OP especially +141, his CC is amazing.
even though he caps out at 160 as well i still use him in ch.20 even though the enemies are +221, his CC is just that good
brisk tapir
21-60 any ideas ?
sleek portal
@brisk tapir dude dude dude, how to go past 21-59
brisk tapir
What comp again?
pale kettle
@broken granite so what should i make my lineup
brisk tapir
Athalia top, Neru bot on each Ardens
broken granite
@pale kettle tasi, arden backline for sure, sav could be either one but backline preferably, luc frontline for sure and for your 2nd tank for front not sure tbh.
get rid of belinda there cause she's dps and u don't want 2 dps heroes on your team
and sav is superior imo
pale kettle
Ok
tawny jewel
Help needed
broken granite
@tawny jewel does silv target tasi or arden, also get the old man to L+ so he can survive more
tawny jewel
@broken granite arden and he doesnt get roots off
broken granite
yeah.. that's why u sshould make him L+, or lower tasi's defense to be lower than arden cause u want silv to target her since she can just tp away
brisk tapir
@sleek portal
Athalia
Lucius
Shemira
Brutus
Nara
You have other Comps on YouTube tho
broken granite
@brisk tapir did u try using nem so she can charm enemy arden? and put athalia in fawkes' spot?
tawny jewel
@pale kettle put raine in the place of tasi
brisk tapir
Didnt tried, but some ppl did on YouTube
broken granite
charming enemy arden is my go-to strat almost always, and esp here since they don't have lyca. but idk if you'd need a lyca of your own for the charm to go off faster than arden
tawny jewel
@broken granite oh okay
brisk tapir
I'll have a try
broken granite
just like i always go after charming ferael when i'm against full GB teams
pale kettle
@tawny jewel that actually almost worked. Sveus was half health and the only one left
tawny jewel
@pale kettle just keep retrying
warm blade
Been stuck a week at 11-38 any tips. This line up gets me the furthest so far
prime narwhal
Should I Change my Arden with a Nemora and use him to feed Nemora or Lyca to mythic or maybe start using some lightbringers?
patent dune
Who is better to use...angelo or arden with this squad
golden stone
Arden, for sure. You already have a healer in Nemora; Arden's damage and CC are better than Angelo's as well.
small grotto
any 1 got a idea tryed like 300 times , 2 timas i gor realy close with the shemira ult cluster....
muted blaze
What is a good team for my heroes? I know that I have spilled exp
I like Tasi ult and for healing nemora but can’t choose for Backline out Saveas, Belinda and fereal
wanton pumice
@small grotto put shem in place of brutus and use arden in the back?
muted blaze
Any good team for chapter 6 and for later? I know Nemora and Lucius are good for now and later but others I don’t know so need some help to make my team I can buy a nemora or shemira
barren ravine
Halp 10-21
plush kelp
14-34 help pls
pulsar geode
@plush kelp I would lvl up your back line
pale kettle
16-24, any ideas?
sly sparrow
Need help with 14-40 please
supple stratus
18-40 help
plucky flint
@mild wing do you remember who your nem has to charm for this lineup to work? Have a hard time getting tasi to ult before shem dies. 20-26
warm tree
I really feel like I should find a way to easily get past this level, but these fuckers pretty much one shot everything :(
sly sparrow
Same, i just want to finish the chapter
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow Swap tasi/arden.
silver spear
I had a friend running nemora as his tank for awhile lol XD
sly sparrow
Yay i did it
indigo jolt
@warm tree Can run arden in either of the 2 bottom spots.
silver spear
Grats@sly sparrow told ya you could do it 😉
supple stratus
18-40 halp. Am i underleveled for this hell
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow Congratz. Now you get those sweet faction towers.
@supple stratus What i ran.
silver spear
@supple stratus just max out that Shem 👌
supple stratus
ty, yeah. my poor nemora gets butchered in middle. i'll try swap equips.. .x
frail whale
is Estrilda worth leveling at the early stages of the game? Just got her from a summon. Currently I use Tasi, Nemora, Saveas, Hogan and Khasos. All around lvl 60ish
plucky flint
@frail whale stick with your team for now.
frail whale
ok, thanks! I might switch out hogan soonish, but we'll see
plucky flint
@frail whale I’d look to replace khasos, actually
mild wing
@plucky flinti do not. Sorry
plucky flint
@frail whale Brutus is ideal. Lucius is also good. You also want to build an arden and a lyca regardless.
brittle maple
Need help with 7-40. Here’s what I got
shy tinsel
Need help, 11-24
radiant hull
@brittle maple Would help to know what level you can get your heroes/crystal...
brittle maple
@radiant hull sorry, I can get my carry to 101+ and have all others at 81
@radiant hull if I focus on just my carry I can get to 110+
pallid lake
@supple stratus I literally sat and retried 18-40 for forever, it takes a lot of rng 😅
supple stratus
man, i've breezed through chapter 18, but i did the same on 18-20. retried 350389539 times. not looking forward to that again..
viral timber
stage 9-36, any ideas?
radiant hull
I'm no expert, far from it actually @brittle maple but if I were you, I try 101 Sav, and then brutus, white beard dude, tasi, tree guy and play around with the formation
viral timber
my heroes in general
indigo jolt
@viral timber Swap lyca and Arden position. Does silv jump to tasi?
pallid lake
@supple stratus expect the same on 19-8 and 19-20 😅 19-24 is currently the bane of my existence
supple stratus
1 shemira away from ascended, just hoping that changes things up..
viral timber
no she jumped to arden that's why i put him there. i just made him leg+ tho, so i guess she wont do that anymore. should i make her jump to tasi (swap gear etc?)
pale kettle
How good is Hendrik? Wonder if I should keep using him
pallid lake
I have ascended level 200 shem, I literally was trying 19-8 for hours and finally caved and leveled my nemora to 175, it still took me hours of retrying to beat it and I got it finished on my drive to work this morning 😂
supple stratus
yikes :<
golden stone
so 21-4 is brutal. any tips or do I just need to sit here for a while, finish getting my crystal to 200, and get Shemira to 240?
pallid lake
Yeah lol it was fun, I would have been doing the same to 19-24 but I passed out when I got home from work 😅
muted blaze
This are my heroes and my current team to much tanks but I win but need a better team with not so much tanks so does anyone knows a good team to make with this heroes?
golden stone
Maybe swap out Gorvo in favor of someone like Belinda or Tasi? (whoops, said Skreg initially)
muted blaze
Don’t understand it I have Skreg lv 1
pale kettle
Good lineup for Chapter 7?
brisk tapir
21-60 any ideas ?
muted blaze
Sometimes speed x2 helps but if you put it off it will help sometimes too get the ult of the heroes before the die
river gazelle
Help beating 16 40 please
muted blaze
How can you hire friends heroes I am at chapter 6
broken egret
@river gazelle does your arden root before the enemy?
golden stone
Sorry Shanilo, I meant Gorvo, not Skreg
muted blaze
Oh yea that make then sense
broken egret
@river gazelle try my setup with shem blade, tasi call should prob work
brittle maple
I guess I just need to afk
broken egret
@river gazelle ah that sucks, however try giving arden good boots, which means he will root the enemy arden before he roots yours. After that should be easy with your unit levels
And just swap in nemore for tasi which might be even better since that way Kaz does not get banished and block the energy regen for shem.
river gazelle
Ok good to know
muted blaze
Any good team to make I can buy a Shem or nemora if needed?
broken egret
@muted blaze i would run a team with tasi, arden nemora in the back and saveas and Brutus in front. Other than that try to overlecel saveas so he is 20-40 levels ahead of your other units if possible
plucky flint
@muted blaze recycle your commons and reset until you only have 5 heroes leveled
muted blaze
Ok
glass moat
any decent team i could potentionally do here. this chapter has had me hardstuck on practically each boss stage but i also am very close to l+ shemira (20k lab tokens). do i just wait for her ( i have been saving the recourses to practically insta up her)
muted blaze
But @broken egret it will be mid game not over leveled
river hollow
team help?
broken egret
@muted blaze what do you mean? If he resets all his units and puts it all into saveas he will be far ahead of his other units and can carry easy
runic crystal
How’s my team looking?
golden stone
Belinda is pretty squishy as a frontline hero, might want to swap her and Saveas
muted blaze
@broken egret I meant the lv cap but that is end mid game
He is now elite I don’t get him so fast : / and have put him in wishlist
broken egret
Death maybe try and have your arden root his arden by putting him in the spot of nemora and try and kill the top Frontline first(forgot his name). So he doesn't go full ham and keep healing up
muted blaze
So what is the team?
broken egret
Ah okay I see what you mean @muted blaze however the level cap is 100 if I'm correct which can help you out for now. You might have to change things later again if you cannot level like that anymore
meager sedge
@runic crystal try to push your arden to 141 if u can
brittle maple
I have a vurk and ant Antandra e+ and I know they’re ascended, but should I use them to take my saveas from E+ to L?
broken egret
I would advise tasi, nemora, arden in the back and saveas with Brutus in front
meager sedge
@brittle maple nope, never use ascended to upgrade
muted blaze
So for now then max lv 100 and if further then retire hero for 20 gems and choose a hero that is legendary if I get that in the time @broken egret right?
What lv are the enemies on the last lv in chapter 6?
cinder crag
Why does this even exist , sigh any ideas?
runic crystal
@meager sedge that’s what I’m going for, ran out of dust lol
muted blaze
4 Lucius xD OP
meager sedge
@cinder crag that looks painful
indigo jolt
@cinder crag Merc a 181 + Warek, easy then as it will shred armour. and can go trhoguh 1 by 1.
broken egret
@muted blaze i do not know about the levels. You only ever want to level 5 units at the same time, the other should be leveles with resonating crystal. Yes when you get level capped you want to level a legendary unit indeed
undone scroll
Mauler tower floor 60,ah
muted blaze
Ok ty for info @broken egret
pallid lake
Any ideas on 19-24?
brisk tapir
8
cinder crag
Yeah it's definitely fun and balanced when you have to use merc to pass i just hate mauler tower thanks for advice
river hollow
i need help with team 😦
vast coral
25-8 anyone?
@river hollow you should focus level. Only LVL up 5 characters the rest go into crystal. Also use Arden. Even early game his cc is still strong. At 141 he's a beast
brittle maple
Guys I beat 7-40. Swapped Brutus for ulmus and nemora got a clutch charm lol
vast coral
@pallid lake try arden instead of Tasi? At LVL 160 his cc is better
frozen meadow
hey so im level 33 and have quite a few heroes and was wondering if anyone could help me pick my main formation to focus on
scenic yew
What’s my best Wrizz/Soren team?
river hollow
@vast coral who should i replace for Arden?
frozen meadow
vast coral
@river hollow I'd replace tasi
river hollow
i’m not using tasi
frozen meadow
So can anyone help a new player out?
scenic yew
@frozen meadow focus on Saveas and Vedan. They’ll carry you early-mid game and then you can fodder them later
frozen meadow
@scenic yew who should I replace?
scenic yew
imo you should level up your Arden, use 3 wilders (Arden lyca Nemora) and then Brutus and Saveas or Vedan and Saveas
frozen meadow
i should take out shemira? i heard shes strong af
golden stone
She gets strong but only at like 141+
scenic yew
She’s really really strong late game. Not as much early-mid bc she doesn’t heal during her ult, only after
prime narwhal
Should I change Arden for Nemora and use him to ascend to mythic her or Lyca?
inland kite
brittle maple
Anything worth ascending rifht now?
golden stone
I'd put your Elite Nirus together, for one. Then you could get Vedan to L+ if you wanted. Will help with level cap and will be good fodder for a M Shemira later on
brittle maple
@golden stone im using saveas as my carry...if I L+ vedan should I switch to him?
golden stone
Probably not, but he'll still be good to have around
oak lance
Any help?
golden stone
merc
median nexus
o right
golden stone
😄
median nexus
im stupid. time to cover up my shame
@oak lance try a
Belinda
-Lucius
Rowan
-Brutus
Fawkes
lineup maybe
wide breach
Should I switch to Vedan or Shemira as my carry? Can L+ Vedan now and shemira after lab reset. Missing like 6 R+ brawler fodder to L+ saveas
median nexus
@wide breach definitely L+ shemira now. once you can get her to lvl 141 she really kicks off as a tank dps carry
wide breach
Makes sense, wanted to stick with the spear bro but all my legendary tier elite pulls were like 90% graveborne
median nexus
seveas will continue being good till he's 160, but shemira also picks up in that range as wel
broken egret
@oak lance you could make an L+ arden getting him 141 and he can carry pretty hard, together with a damage dealer like Belinda or saveas
boreal kestrel
Could I get some help with this stage
rustic field
@boreal kestrel you could use nemora to charm arden, he can vine the enemy's side of the team.
indigo jolt
Swap Arden and tasi positons. Kaz interrupts and slows arden so he wont ever root first.
boreal kestrel
Ok I'll try both
Think I need to get my arden accession cuz hes getting 1 shot when I swap him and tasi
indigo jolt
@boreal kestrel Try Lyca in Brutus positon and bring Nemora in in bottom.
boreal kestrel
K
boreal kestrel
Thanks tuesday I'll give that a shot
clear saddle
@boreal kestrel keep in mind you need good boots for nemora for this to work
boreal kestrel
Ah
ember bane
Need line-up 21-1
clear saddle
@ember bane Arden instead of nemo
gilded walrus
It’s 20-12 btw
Can’t find anyone who did this without at least an ascended Shem. Suggestions?
clear saddle
@gilded walrus I usually like running Shem into niru with lyca behind her.
indigo jolt
A lyca popping off lol..
gilded walrus
@indigo jolt that Lyca upgrade may be what I’m missing, but we will see if my Brutus can make up for it. Thanks!
@clear saddle I’ll try this as well, thanks 🙂
worldly thorn
What would be my best setup for questing in chapter 10 right now?
boreal kestrel
@clear saddle thanks your formation worked just had to keep trying
clear saddle
Yep, that’s the key, rng
pale kettle
Lucius , Belinda , estra , melinda , fawkes took me far @worldly thorn
lament sonnet
Still stuck ;-;
worldly cipher
Should I take fawkes, estrilda, or raine to mythic 1st?
My primary team is brutus+shemira and wilder trio
mild wing
@worldly cipher I would take fawkes personally
plucky heron
Im stuck at 5-12 I'm running 2 tanks 1 healer and 2 dps can I get a lol advise on what to do I just started 2 hours ago
gleaming flax
My team should be ?
willow spruce
Stuck at 20-30 and idk why there is a boss there
plucky heron
Here is a better SS I need to know the best team best tanks etc and best dps and I think I have the best healer already
silent wraith
@warm ocean try estrilda, she seems to work better
I rem I did this and was so surprised it worked, I didnt get chance to SS it
warm ocean
@silent wraith I only got an E+
silent wraith
hmm mine was L+
warm ocean
@silent wraith 1 more and I can have an L+ (or an A if I never foddered an L+ of her before 😃 )
fierce kayak
@patent heron whenever facing Farael, you have to counter him. Nemora middle back charm him. Use meta team.
Shem Brutus front. Wilders CC back and nemora middle back. If tasi banish fareal then drop tasi. Try to make Shemira 200
patent heron
Ill try that, thank you.
fierce kayak
@patent heron another way is also try use Athalia disable issabelle
patent heron
Dude, with athalia it was soo easy, thank you. I keep forgetting i have her
fierce kayak
👌
broken granite
Anyone got a lineup for 20-36?
silent wraith
this one has a simple trick
use tasi to tank ulmus while nemo charms top
oof I just noticed our power diff
broken granite
i'm getting destroyed regardless lmao
rustic field
I'm stuck. Any team line up suggestions?
broken granite
my shem barely manages to ult and when she finally does she's already one shot
@mild wing omg RNG finally blessed me, appreciate it
pale kettle
I'm stuck in Chapter 10. My main lineup is FL Brutus Hendrik BL Tasi Nemora Lyca but it hasn't been working for a while
mild wing
@pale kettle I would check out the pin over in #classic-questions regarding ascending heroes, might have some useful info for you, youre rushing L too fast
quaint prism
Should I push Belinda to M+ or Lucius to M?
pale kettle
@mild wing thanks for letting me know about how I'm rushing L too fast. Is there something I can do to fix this?
mild wing
@pale kettle Your fine its still early, did you read the pin over there? What can happen is you use all your fodder to get a lot of Ls then you dont get copies of that hero to go L+ and get stuck then you dont have fodder for the Other heroes you DO have copies for. So the best thing is to not go L until you can go all the way E+ -> L+
pale kettle
Yeah, I did read it. Should I use those legendary champs or make a Saveas-Brutus comp? Thanks for the help!
stuck at 8-20
fierce kayak
Mid game ascension planning:
Don't rush for ascension from L+ to M onwards, same principle as don't go to L unless can go L+ right away.
You will wish to aim for top 5 Ascended white eventually, so meanwhile is to make top 5 M first. One hero per faction, last slot any faction.
Ask your self before ascend heroes above L+. Is this hero a carry like Shemira or essential hero like brutus? If it's not, you better think wise. It's better to ascend hero above L+ if you already have 4 copies of them ready for Ascended white.
Exceptions may be to break level cap to push Shemira above 200, so crystal need to be 180. I will ascend heroes I have copies ready go Ascended white or worst case shops heroes as I can continue buy copies of them.
@quaint prism
inland kite
quaint prism
Belinda is my main carry so thats why i was going to push her to M+
fierce kayak
@quaint prism you don't have Shem? Up to you 🙂. So note making Belinda As Carry likely need to build a good LB team around her. F2p usually not able to do that.
quaint prism
Im kinda dolphin, not f2p. Running all LB. I have shem but only L
Regardless my question was if i should push Lucius up to M or move Belinda up to M+ to be more carry
civic helm
mild wing
@civic helm Yeah it's fine, Saveas I find a stronger carry than shem up to 160 but she will switch over to a carry at 161
fierce kayak
^
open turtle
thoughts on how to make a decent lineup for story progression? on 5-36 and struggling
plush kelp
Any idea for 15-7
mild wing
I would try swapping lyca in
fierce kayak
@open turtle @civic helm
Can read pinned message at #classic-questions, top right 3 dots. Should help a bit
Leveling guide in pinned. Don't even level. Teams below subject to changes later and depending on enemies. Build Arden and Savaes too.
@civic helm or
Sav (120)
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Rosaline/rowan
@open turtle temporary team as most heroes here performs better late game. Nara is sort of to disable hero so position her accordingly.
Nara
Grezhul
Shemira
Thoran
Arden
@plush kelp remove Lucius and fawkes. Nemora for fawkes and tasi/lyca for lucius
plucky heron
Anyone that is experienced can pm me since I never got the advice I asked for 4 hours ago
I changed out Hogan for my level 57 hero but I'm thinking I need more changes
Still stuck on 5-12
jolly wolf
ok, so you're still really early in the game, I think you can probably try running Lucius/Hogan/Mirael/Raine/Numisu, you want to have a high faction bonus early in the game, 4 heroes of the same faction (Lucius, Hogan, Mirael, Raine) gives you +15% HP and +10% ATK I believe or something around there
you might want to work on your saveas if you can pull some more of those later on as well. You're going to get a Belinda on the 7th day you play, so you should slot that in for Mirael once you get her.
left lintel
+20% hp
plucky heron
Hogan is weaker than shemira
jolly wolf
yeah, but Shemira isn't that great early in the game unless you have someone like Rosaline or Rowan constantly feeding her energy. Until you level Shemira up significantly or get a Rosaline, you're likely fighting a very long battle, so it's nice to have two frontline tanks that can hold off the enemy team
warm ginkgo
I need a bit of assistance with this. Can anyone help?
plucky heron
Im using her as a tank she has more to than Hogan and she heals herself she is usually the last one to die
And she is currently level 65
jolly wolf
what's the current formation you run? and how much damage is your team doing? I think the issue is that shemira can survive long on her own, but without the faction bonuses, the rest of your team isn't going to survive that long or do a lot of damage.
dark zinc
If you're asking me, I've pretty much running top five with lucius and shem as front
jolly wolf
Nah I was asking @plucky heron
plucky heron
124k damage in guild hunt
jolly wolf
Yeah that might be a little low at that point of the game, I think you may want to try to get a good LB faction bonus then
dark zinc
I'm on 11-38 and I'm mad stuck if you have any advice though, sorry for hijacking a request
plucky heron
I started 4 hours ago so
jolly wolf
@plucky heron lol my point is that 5-12 you should probably do somewhat more damage than that, at least in my opinion
warm ginkgo
Can anyone give me some advice?
plucky heron
I'll level those up as a secondary and see how it goes
But I have no armor for some of the others
@jolly wolf
rustic field
I'm still stuck. Any suggestion please
dark zinc
11-38 has me stuck for forever, recently got advice to bring up Sav until I can get shem to 161
I'm using top 5 as of now
lament wigeon
Level 10-8, supa stuck, any tips
fierce kayak
@warm ginkgo build a meta team instead. Backline tasi lyca nemora arden
high oyster
I’m hard stuck at this stage any advice I could use??
warm ginkgo
@fierce kayak
I included the heroes I have. I’m lacking meta
knotty tree
@dark zinc repost plz
dark zinc
Which part?
knotty tree
your formation and heroes
fierce kayak
@dark zinc build Arden 141. Drop shem for now. Rosalime/ Rowan over Shem. Last slot tasi/lyca/Arden and nemora is later have her
dark zinc
knotty tree
everything he just said to you do you have way to many heroes for DPS and not enough supports/CC
dark zinc
The first two are mercs, but do yall have a suggestion?
knotty tree
sav only dps rest to support him "@dark zinc build Arden 141. Drop shem for now. Rosalime/ Rowan over Shem. Last slot tasi/lyca/Arden and nemora is later have her
"
what he told you up there
dark zinc
My bad, missed that one
fierce kayak
@warm ginkgo Ya.. just wanna remind you to build for easier progression. Else Try
Nemora
Brutus
Eorinn
Shem
Athalia
pale kettle
I've been stuck on chapter 10 for a while. Main lineup is FL Brutus Lucius BL Tasi Lyca Nemora. ( I know I messed up on ascensions) Should I change my lineup or keep it?
knotty tree
@pale kettle you need a carry hero(damage) you don't have enough
pale kettle
warm ginkgo
@fierce kayak
Thank you that worked.
I’ve not been lucky at pulling ascended tier widlers. So I won’t be able to build up a Tasi or Lyca any time soon
knotty tree
idk whos best for your for damage someone else here will have to tell you from who you have i personally havne't used any of them but that is what your lacking
pale kettle
@knotty tree if I put in Belinda for Lyca I won't have a faction buff so I'm not too sure what to do
knotty tree
try 3 LB and 2 wilder
pale kettle
ok thanks
fierce kayak
@rustic field never drop Shemira. And you have so... many Ls.. omg..
And potentially really stuck at M/M+
Try:
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora/Arden
Shemira
Arden/nemora
Who Silv aims?
@warm ginkgo it's fine. E/E+ of them can work as meta team already. That's how OP Wilders CC are and why we build them. Easier especially for f2p.
They just there to buy time for Shemira to ulti
knotty tree
and if tasi ults while shem ult is up ez gg
rustic field
@fierce kayak well blame my bad luck with summons.
fierce kayak
@rustic field erm.. not really. We don't ascend heroes to L unless we can make it straight to L+
high oyster
Hard stuck any advice
wispy pike
Stuck at 4-32... Any advice as to what I should be working on? I just started today
woven sedge
violet pecan
@wispy pike just afk and play
Look for google for more info about game
lament wigeon
Pretty stuck on 10-8, any advice? Might just be at a point where I need to reap afk rewards n wait
Enemy Sav shreds everyone, nearly untouchable for me but I can get through the common fodder easy
high oyster
Hard stuck at 6-36 any advice?
trail gate
This stage possible at this moment?
@high oyster Try replacing Vurk with the twins. The faction bonus may help.
hasty dawn
any ideas?
fierce kayak
@hasty dawn Shem always avoid Ogi. Try
Tasi
Shem
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Or
Shem top, Brutus bot, back Wilders.
rigid rivet
any suggestions?
hasty dawn
@fierce kayak managed to clear, ty!
fierce kayak
👏
sleek portal
@trail gate what level is that
trail gate
@sleek portal Graveborn tower, floor 80.
sleek portal
@trail gate doable then, used 220 shemira and E/E+ to finish up till 85
trail gate
@sleek portal Good to know! Any suggestions?
sleek portal
@trail gate i swapped my main's equip to all the other 4. then swap between dura call/blade to see which works better, if im not wrong i used call.......
@trail gate i did use grehul inwstead of nara and isa instead of kelthur tho..... i believe their passive MIGHT HELP a lil bit.
brittle maple
Stuxk. PlZ help lol
frozen whale
@brittle maple put Arden at position 4
I'm not sure what gear you have though lol or change your lineup
hasty dawn
any ideas would be great help! :)
frozen whale
Arden and Nemo should swap positions
hasty dawn
wow ok that cleared it instantly lol thanks
i don't even understand why that works but cool
devout berry
16-40. Shem getting messed up by Kaz
frozen whale
Your Shem should be dieing if Nemo fails to charm enemy Lyca eh . U can try putting Brutus swap with lyca
trail gate
@sleek portal Ill give it a shot when I have enough to open a slot at the resonating crystal. Thanks!
hasty dawn
wow you're at 16-40 with that team... i wonder how far i can go with mine then
brittle maple
@frozen whale mixture of rare+ to elite+ gear
frozen whale
Oh ok great 😆 @hasty dawn
@devout berry
Move your Shem gear to tasi or Nemo or change artifacts so that silv targets a Wilder hero instead
hasty dawn
@frozen whale how far do you think i can go with what i have lol
devout berry
@frozen whale there’s no Silva tho 👀 you mean Kaz?
frozen whale
@devout berry I would put silv at front bot
then place Shem at bottom left hopefully to silence enemy Arden. Tasi should be at front top and your Arden at top left
Oops Kaz haha my bad @hasty dawn
I mean Nemo at front bot lol so that Silv targets him after u swap gears around
Ur current lineup will cause your shem to die instantly without doing much. To have Tasi targeted u need higher Ascension than Nemo thus I suggest swapping years to Nemo instead. If your tasi can bait then it would be best
ivory fable
Any idea?
frozen whale
@devout berry try this ...lol I don't have Arden. Move ur Shem gear to Nemo make him as tanky as you can but leave ur best Weapon on Shem
@ivory fable ideally this if you can
Try having Fawkes in your lineup for his ulti
ivory fable
Lucius dies insantly
frozen whale
Your lucious isn't geared? Can u show ur lucious
You can try putting Shem versus Grezhul but you'll need Nemo behind her to charm Saveas/Grez then put Brutus to tank the bottom front
ivory fable
frozen whale
@ivory fable loan someone's lucious
All my heroes are loaned out lolz perhaps u can try asking your guildmates or in the pub channel
ivory fable
I need to wait 1 day
frozen whale
Belinda should be able to go on an ulti spree though as long as you tank the front long enough
calm hollow
15-8 any suggestions?
frozen whale
@calm hollow try this arrangement then swap gears around
ivory fable
You have lvl 140 shemira and lvl 92 silvina?
Reset shemira and lvl up silvina to 141 or 160
frozen whale
I never used silv. My mid tier was entirely front: Shem Brutus and back: the trio Wilders (Nemo Lyca Tasi)
calm hollow
@frozen whale I tried that, Belinda gets charmed and kills sireus.
@ivory fable I had that before, silv dies in two seconds. sheima does too so neither of them work
frozen whale
Put Brutus instead on Seirus
calm hollow
they all die the second numius uses his spec. haha
frozen whale
My mid game was mainly Brutus and Shem all the way lol
Use athalia to put Nemo to brutus
Try this @calm hollow
frozen whale
I would use Lucious over Estrila but that's up to you. U can try replacing Belinda with Rowan/Rosaline and see how it goes
calm hollow
lol dead in 30 seconds
frozen whale
Until Nemo charms and distracts off enemy Arden
I made a mistake focusing too much on Brutus. Lol don't spend too much sigis on him too early in the game
calm hollow
lolol I cant
frozen whale
How about this
calm hollow
lasted a minute haha. maybe i should just farm a little
thanks though! gotta head back into work
violet pecan
@frozen whale what about
Lyca (i would prefer tasi here instead)
Saveas
Eiron
Nemora
Gorvo
frozen whale
Well the main issue with that stage is silv/Arden. Bait with ur mage and have elron pull her and arden in
pale kettle
frozen whale
Tasi
Seirus
Luca
Nemo/or Brutus or Ulmus
Elron should work too
violet pecan
frozen whale
Enemy Khasos should be shredding ur Shem?
Go full Light heroes ?
Shem at backline top left or bottom left. If she's geared enough it should work if you buy enough time
violet pecan
@frozen whale low lvl full lightbringera.
Not yet that stage.. collecting heroes to ascend nemora and raine
Main problem is not khasos but vurk and his piercing missle with poison
Khasos is banished main timeframe
cursive sparrow
Could somebody help me please?
frozen whale
Put Brutus at bottom and replace athalia at Nemo position. Or have Belinda in the mix
violet pecan
@cursive sparrow show us all heroes @pale kettle same
cursive sparrow
pale kettle
frozen whale
Back mid can be anyone err u can use tasi.... Or Fawkes
cursive sparrow
@violet pecan
pale kettle
@frozen whale so drop saveas for Athalia and Estrilda for Brutus?
thorn silo
Can someone help me with lineup please?
frozen whale
Sorry just noticed your level. Use Saveas hes really good midgame
Replace safiya with saveas
violet pecan
@cursive sparrow
Arden
Shemira
Vladimir
Grezhul
(Spin blade, fidget spinner, blayblade) hero should work for you
thorn silo
cursive sparrow
@violet pecan thanks man appriciate it
frozen whale
Grezhul isn't that good pre lv150 to me :S I used mostly Brutus then
thorn silo
Sorry forget about lvl
violet pecan
@pale kettle
Sisters
Lucius
Shemira
Saveas
Belinda
Try it out
pale kettle
Okay, ill try that for 9-16
cursive sparrow
@violet pecan Vladimir meaning vedan?
violet pecan
@pale kettle you shoukd really focus on saveas, lucius and wilder trio back
Tasi arden nemora lyca to support your hard carry
frozen whale
@violet pecan agreed
pale kettle
For sure, i dont have nemora or Lyca though.
violet pecan
@cursive sparrow y sorry
frozen whale
Btw around Lv 165+ Wilders tower. I used a lv1 Arden lmao to assist just a wild thought lmao
thorn silo
Can someone help me with lineup please
violet pecan
@pale kettle any kind of CC wpuld do or support kind
Rowan fawkes sisters maid etc
@thorn silo where is saveas located?
thorn silo
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Saveas
Arden
pale kettle
Bodied 9-16 with current build anyways. Will def build that suggestion though thank you!
tidal pelican
suggestion?
pallid lake
Anyone got a soren comp for me?
ionic jackal
@tidal pelican Brutus instead of lucius if lucius can't pop his ult, his roar can make saveas more effective
wild kayak
Stuck on 17-36 any lineup advice? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
ionic jackal
@pallid lake shemira for main dps, rosaline for support, I think you should try (and possibly keep retrying) using baden to handle soren charm mechanic and you can paired up with nemora with it, the last one is up to you I guess
@wild kayak you could use lyca in mid back so she can be the main dps for your team, you can use other frontliner such as thoran. Use the wilder trio in the backline, possibly purple Arden is fine instead of nemora
pallid lake
@ionic jackal i’ll just use what I been using then haha, baden/shem belinda/nem/rosa
ionic jackal
@pallid lake or you can try khasos instead of nemora if baden's shadows is enough to distract soren haha
old ore
Stuck on 9.16 for a while. Any way i can knock this off? I do have res spots too
tag me if you can help, pls
cinder crag
Any ideas?
wise stream
I feel like i hit a wall...any tips? Im in chapter 12
supple stratus
Holy crap. Beat 18-40 with a weird setup. King gorvo baby. Help for others that search later..
winter arrow
guys how do you beat this guys?
calm hollow
@frozen whale got it! :p
frozen whale
Great
honest storm
Help please 😅
ashen schooner
Switch out Fawkes for Arden and Shemira for Thane and see what that does. @honest storm
muted blaze
Are this 5 heroes good to lv up for mid game so lv61 -160?
honest storm
Nobody gets killed @ashen schooner
shadow girder
Pls help me!!
I'm stuck at 6-24
lofty smelt
Get shemira to 81, move her to frontline, instead of ira use Saveas at lvl 81 @shadow girder
Use get everybody to 81
Put ulmos before Brutus
@pale kettle I find it more useful to put Lucius in front of Estrilda. Also move all weak back liners away from behind Lucius. Shemira is fine where she is, maybe change fawkes w Belinda and upgrade Belinda a bit
@pale kettle maybe play around with putting shemira frontline and adding Rosaline or Brutus in her stead
pale kettle
@lofty smelt aight thx man
lofty smelt
Try not to have anything squishy in 4,5 because Estrilda + Morvus = Dead backline
Any suggestions as to how to deal with Silvana?
muted blaze
Nemora or Tasi ? Need help don’t know which is good
Can’t choose Tasi don’t heal so good as nemora so???
@ me if you know something
old ore
@muted blaze try using belinda, and combine tasi and saveas, they go well together also overlevel saveas, hes a beast carry
last granite
@gusty meadow reset warek/ogi (whoever sucks at tank) and use hogan instead
wise stream
Did i hit a wall and in need to ascend heroes before i can progress? Stuck at chapter 12 for almost 2 weeks now
gusty meadow
My ogi is kinda squishy. Maybe all of them because of the middle bunny girl
And the hogan thingy doesnt work
Spent all my gem on summoning 3 rare only thats it
muted blaze
@old ore why Belinda and not shemira?
last granite
@gusty meadow if warek can tank better than hogan then put him in front of enemy ogi. I'd still recommend you use hogan or golus. If saveas doesn't give much dps try changing him with mirael/silvina.
Silvina
Golus
Ira/mirael
Hogan
Nemora
worthy island
Need some help😥
umbral badger
Gb Tower 180: please advise if there's any way I can beat this.
gusty meadow
@last granite so ill reset them all? Can you give me a specific leveling for them? I mean if im gonna changed them
umbral badger
@gusty meadow Maybe L41 all and L61 Saveas?
last granite
@gusty meadow reset ogi and warek only and then put their levels to hogan and golus for a start. Retry the battle until nemora can charm arden
umbral badger
I can't remember where the major level steps are early game
lament matrix
Does anyone have any suggestions for this stage? It seems impossible lol
last granite
@worthy island I used these to beat that stage. Try swapping arden/nemora with tasi
old ore
@muted blaze i thought the faction boost would help, against maulers, plus, with the lucius, it could help
umbral badger
GB tower 80 my team is getting butchered by 2x Thane 3z Ehizh (screen shot above)
indigo jolt
@wise stream
Lyca/Arden
Sav
Arden/Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
@umbral badger What was your setup for 78?
Move Shem around, till you find a spot where not pulled by ezizh.
tired agate
How can I beat this?
muted blaze
@indigo jolt any team to make and not to tank like I did in 6-16 but that was to win the battle
pale kettle
stuck at 8-20
indigo jolt
@muted blaze Already told you i believe Lucius Brutus Saveas Nemora Tasi. Need to overlevel Saveas.
muted blaze
Ok but lv cap is 100 for now
umbral badger
@indigo jolt will do! With three of them it seems inevitable but will do my best. Trying to avoid having to ladder Grezhul to L+ (want to do this but need to get Fereal to M+ with fodder first if possible).
Working hard on faction tower L80 overall for the 4x Mythic gear reward.
I know the last resort is to wait for next time and borrow the right mercenaries to get through this.
muted blaze
Where to place them on the back line @indigo jolt ?
indigo jolt
Thtas probably fine for now, but you will need to change it around most likely depending on enemy setup.
umbral badger
@muted blaze I agree that leveling up Saveas is a big priority. He then loves top or bottom corner from which he pours out pointy pain 😈
@muted blaze when over leveled Saveas can even tank on frontline, but whenever possible back corner is great.
gilded ruin
Any advice here? 18-24
indigo jolt
@umbral badger Progress on the diff towers?
@gilded ruin Can probably just substitue in Lucius for brutus, if he survives long enough to ult.
umbral badger
@indigo jolt I am not there yet so not a crying shame if I don't beat GB floor 80 today.
To confirm: I have indeed used all my best gear and given artifacts to GB for this fight.
@indigo jolt
vernal berry
Help
lament birch
I've been stuck for 3 days now...
vagrant marten
Any ideas how to pass this level?
twin hare
Anything I can change to be able to beat this line-up? Level capped atm.
left lintel
@south herald
south herald
@left lintel Arden should be top side and use Nem instead of Tasi
left lintel
So basically kaz does 100k+ to my shem and my shem dies
Tried that, their arden much faster
south herald
@left lintel can ur nem charm arden before he root?
night reef
your arden gets root off later?
left lintel
@south herald no
night reef
nemora has mythic boots?
south herald
@left lintel
Athalia
Shem
lyca
Brutus
Nem
indigo jolt
@lament birch Drop Saf for Arden.
Backline of Arden, Nemora, Athalia.
Retry till charm on Ferael.
left lintel
@night reef all L still lol
indigo jolt
Try this, give Nem Shema boots. @left lintel
vernal berry
@willow spruce no belinda
willow spruce
@vernal berry muruse shemira for it
night reef
try the comp he suggested and give dura's call to nem if she doesn't already have it for the haste increase or see what nem does with the best boots and cura's call she should have way higher haste that way and charm faster
vernal berry
K ty
willow spruce
Stuck at 20-30 like 3 weeks 🙄
left lintel
@indigo jolt there’s something that’s attacking nemora 150k non crit idk who
sand kindle
@willow spruce cmon it’s common lvl. 1-5: brutus lyca shemira arden nemora. Roll till u win
indigo jolt
@left lintel Is it ogi slam?
left lintel
No, aoe but not the ball from arden
uncut sapphire
Stuck at 16-28. Any ideas ?
night reef
@left lintel is it after or before shemira gets knocked back by ogi since after ira will attack her pretty sure
left lintel
@night reef thx but I don’t wanna deal with that stupid stage, maybe next week 
night reef
should be easy when you hit 180 crystal and 220 shemira then you are ready for chap 21 anyway
old ore
mild wing
@sand kindle morning. Do you hav ed a 25-56? Is for a friend, I remember that one really sucked but I cant find my pic
mild wing
cool ty
sand kindle
@mild wing check pm
old ore
@sand kindle why did you black it out?
mild wing
You the man ty
sand kindle
@old ore So people don't get confused. The screenshot will be enemies from the next stage
old ore
Huh?
pale kettle
Any suggestions? Seems almost impossible to me at the moment
worthy grove
Any suggestions? My front row just dies instantly. Nemora is not able to get saveus...
sharp escarp
Help? 16-32
uncut sapphire
All these legendaries hurt my eyes 😮
lament birch
@uncut sapphire all but 3 are too tier heroes ^^ Hogan carried me even at chapter 10-12, but really!? Ogi and Ida!? xD that hurts
obsidian bridge
Hey everyone. Stuck on 21-60 for a few days now, anyone have any advice before I try throwing a merc at it tonight?
indigo jolt
@sharp escarp Probably try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Estrilda
Arden
uncut sapphire
@lament birch Ogi and Ira are actually food so it’s fine. I was talking about all the other ones
indigo jolt
@obsidian bridge Nice progressing. Try having tasi infront of Ulmus.
twin hare
Anything I can do to clear this? 8-40.
lament birch
@uncut sapphire yeah Hogan is at some point fodder only too, but I would say he had some double heroes and just made all possible L, same as I did and now I use them as fodder or they help me through faction towers etc
What should be my best possible lineup atm?
torn lava
uncut sapphire
@lament birch Still not a good idea to ascend everyone to legendary cause you’ll be stuck soon. Read the pinned posts in #classic-questions if you want to know more
indigo jolt
@lament birch Shem Brutus (3 of ) Arden Nemora lyca Tasi
tawny jewel
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Got a crystal spot for arden?
tawny jewel
@pale kettle use meta and get brutus to 141(crucial)
Use
Tasi
Brutus
Nem/arden
Sav
Lyca
pale kettle
@indigo jolt i can kick someone off, if i need to yes
@tawny jewel sorry whats meta mean?
lament birch
@uncut sapphire yes ofc, but I wouldn't use kinda like heroes as fodder, that's why I have been stuck a looong time too, because I have dismissed this server,Reddit and so on :)
plush gate
Help for 12-28?
tawny jewel
@pale kettle its what works best the way the game runs currently
indigo jolt
@tawny jewel I ran that sae setup.
tawny jewel
@obtuse ledge numisu. Guaranteed copies. But i would wait to get 4 copies of a hero before getting them to mythic
@plush gate show roster
indigo jolt
@obtuse ledge Numisu, you need to be thinking about who you can get to A easily. Unfortunately.
plush gate
@tawny jewel roster in pictures, scrolled down to show all options
tawny jewel
@plush gate you got no carry boi
obtuse ledge
@tawny jewel Thanks. But do you think Shemira and Lucius will be good to tank without Brutus? I am near the end of chap 20. Really just need a Mythic fast, for the lineup flexibility.
tawny jewel
@plush gate shem doesnt work below lvl 161
Use
Tasi
Brutus
Eironn
Thoran
Lyca
obsidian bridge
@indigo jolt yea I got shemira to ascended so I could put her at 240 and she carried me all the way through the chapter pretty much it was nice.
winter arrow
any tips? i got shredded before shem ulti. should i wait go for E+ saveas instead?
broken granite
Anyone got 20-44?
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Could also try Lyca front, switched with Sav, Sav moved to bottom.
Tasi
brutus
Lyca
Sav
Arden
obtuse ledge
@indigo jolt That's a valid point. I do however care more about getting forward,and wonder if I should get Brutus to Mythic before Numisu, because any regret will take a long time to fix
broken granite
Warek always goes after shem if she's frontline btw
tawny jewel
@obtuse ledge if you need a mythic go for numisu as you never know. You might get 0 brutus copies the next year and you just wasted fodder. Also ascention lvl of brutus doesnt matter as his use is that 8 seconds
indigo jolt
@obtuse ledge Ultimately, a bigger regret would be stuck not at 5 A.
obtuse ledge
Hm, good point.
tawny jewel
@winter arrow shem ia trash before lvl 161. Saveas is better
broken granite
Honestly, I'd wait @obtuse ledge till u have 2 L+ mauler fodder unless u need an M right now to level crystal nvm I just saw that u do need to ascend now
plush gate
@tawny jewel Brutus is my carry dude, he’s a full 30 levels above the vast majority of my roster. What is the discord’s obsession with a carry? Does it really make that much of a difference?
indigo jolt
You can make it with Brutus L only, and can Merc the odd Brutus if necessary.
obtuse ledge
Thanks all. I got what I need. Numisu it is. And the time is now :) Have a nice day.
indigo jolt
@plush gate The problem is Brutus's kit isn't that of a carry.
tawny jewel
@plush gate i suggested a lineup with brutus as carry tho. You just dont have a standard carry thats all :)
broken granite
@obtuse ledge are u close to getting grez to M?
plush gate
What is a standard carry?
broken granite
He'd be a much better option than numisu when it comes to guaranteed hero ascension
tawny jewel
@plush gate saveas shemira xD well eironn will be the carry for the team i suggested but brutus will do more dmg in your case. Just try it out..
pale kettle
stuck at 8-20