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Ok doesn't work. Stuck here I'm getting shattered there
@worthy grove try to get a carry hero. Over level ur belinda cause right now u have none
if i put grezul into my team who am i subbing out?
Id say rosa
Any suggestions for 20-28?
Just did it a little bit ago. IIRC I used:
Lyca
---- Shemira
Arden
---- Brutus
Tasi
yeah i dont have a arden
Even a blue one?
i do
blue is fine, all you need is for him to get the initial root off
still losing using warden
11-36, any ideas?
YO i did it, the arden thing worked
ayyyyyy
👌
20-30 is brutal
took me several dozen tries. 20-33 has me stumped rn
nice. actually that reminds me that i should try rowan and ros on this level, maybe they'll help
yeah they are solid
hmm. tried them a few times but magic 8-ball says outlook not so good
rip
i hate levels with ascended silvina, i hate levels with ascended arden, and i REALLY hate levels with both ascended silvina and ascended arden lol
Anyone have a better comp for 20-26?
Floor 219. What Mercenary should I hire? I can kill a single Ulmus here but that’s it.
@sand rune Put lyca and nem in. Nem middle to charm the other nem (to charm one of the ulmus)
@sand rune also, if you have the dust, would reset Brutus to 180, get 180 crystal and take Shem up
@plucky flint I’ll give that a shot. I’ve been down the Wilder team road and wanted to try something crazy.
@plucky flint now that I think of it, I’d rather not reset Brutus to 180 just to get Shemira higher, unless it will allow me to leap ahead dramatically. My alt account is more along the lines of Shem 200, everything else 175 going in the direction of that strategy.
@sand rune I can’t remember but I might have also used arden instead of tasi because my tasi was having a real hard time getting to ult
I’m pretty sure 201+ shem will help you a lot more than 200 shem + Brutus but you can side by side compare with your alt account and see
18-20 is giving me a beating lol. Any suggestions :)
How do I beat this? Have firebringer already bit keep getting owned. It's the peaks of time that gives a shemira copy
I use the top five.. looking for better comps, thoughts??
hey guys. im in chapter 5 running lucius, thoran, mirael, rosaline, and belinda. should i get mirael to elite+ or should i get hogan to elite+ and replace thoran?
Hogan E+
really? i tried running hogan frontline before and it was just... bad
HIm and Mirael neither are great, but he will give you the 5 LB bonus at least
maybe it will be better now that i have a lucius? thoran misses his ult a lot
ah i see. so should i strive to keep 5 LB then?
14-38
It's sorta embarrassing to be stuck on a tile that's not a boss one. T-T
This enemy Arden is so annoying man...do I have any chance or just afk and level up Belinda a bit more?
I was stuck on 14-38 for a while, I feel that pain. Do you have any other tank options?
Estrilda/Lucius might work as a frontline. I would definitely defer to what F2P and 9 have to say though
@timid quail try using 4 wilder 1 shemira, call on tasi/shemira
@timid quail it's fine. Wilders team is a pain. But you should be able to get thru it as chap 14 is still ok. I assume you have 4 Wilders cc? Try
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Else use Athalia mirror Arden to disable him. Shem never face ogi.
don't have tasi T-T
@timid quail the Vow event?
the what now?
Voyage of Wonders. You can get a free Tasi at the end
@timid quail voyage
@timid quail else you can try our suggestion.. or try mine and use Athalia over tasi instead.
@timid quail if you really dont have tasi then brutus face kaz, nemora either top back or bottom back to charm either arden/ira, arden top/bottom back with M boots. lyca can try to put against ogi or middle, shemira last spot, call on shemira
oh................I got all the rewards but haven't tried actually beating it yet. That final boss looks like it'll *** my team
@timid quail you have 161+ Shem.. don't worry too much
alright, if you say so 👍
This event is easier than previous so give it a try. I mean have to beat it for tasi man 
......................I got ***
man, Ulmus always feels way better when he's on the enemy's team than when he's on yours
doesn't do anything when I use him but always manages to wreck me
@mild wing hogan can't handle the smoke. thoran tanks like a true mother and does something hogan cant
So keep thoran then
yeah that's the new plan lol
Ideas?
okay nvm, just had bad RNG with items.
Beat VoW now 👍
@lean ingot Mmmm, try switching Ulmus and Shemira.
Stuck on 14-40. Any help would be appreciated
@fierce kayak So I assume I'll need to place Tasi in the Resonating Crystal once a spot opens, but after that who goes frontline/backline for the Wilder comp?
@marble harbor Does swapping Brutus and Shemira work at all? Estrilda is burstier than Hogan, and Angelo doesn't really do any damage, so your Shemira might stay up for longer that way
Stuck on campaign and tower, any suggestions for either?
@golden stone tried that too. Hogan keeps Shemira stunned until Brutus dies, and all five demolish Shemira
@timid quail as per what I suggested above. You can try all our suggestions ns see what works for u
Hmm. Maybe flip Tasi and Arden as well, so Arden can root Hogan?
k 👍
@eager jay You can easily get thru your campaign with your power. Try
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemor
oh god 20-39 is 20-27 again but worse. just kill me now.
edit: i lied i one-shotted it it was fine
@golden stone hmm no luck with that either. I might have to hope Tasi survives long enough to ult
Do you have Dura's Call? If so, is Tasi wearing it?
Ahh no, my Nemora is wearing it. Gonna switch that now
Might help a bit - worth a shot!
Getting super close now! Gonna see if I can RNG it here from here
get that bread
Got it! Thanks for your help
Nice! Glad it worked!
@fierce kayak no Arden unfortunately. Waiting to borrow one but any substitution in the meantime?
@eager jay not really. Arden is really good but many just ignore building him.. 
You can try athalia mirror Arden to disable him then.
any thoughts on 20-44? or just let RNGsus take the wheel?
i used arden in mauler stages instead of tasi i donmt know.
Been able to get it down to just Warek and Brutus a couple times, but given that those are the hardest to bring down it's not saying all that much 😛
hmm aight i'll try that
if i use arden dura call would go on shemira so she gets ult fast enough to outlive brutus spin and warek
I could use some help here
man, Warek's ANGERY shield is a force to be reckoned with
@fierce kayak Athalia worked for campaign. Any ideas for tower 219? Those 4 ulmus are brutal
I used meta team and it wasn't a problem for me. 😅
@ashen schooner for 219?
Yeah, I used ShemBrutWilders, friend of mine used Shem(A 200), L Brut 160, E Rosaline and Rowan 160 and E+ Fawkes 160. My heroes were closer to their levels though.
I'd say in your case, put Tasi in front where Shemira is and then swap Nemora and Shemira so that she's behind Brutus. I think that's what I did.
@ashen schooner can't crack the Ulmus, they get low, root then heal to full and decimate everyone
Who does Tasi banish? Nem right? try moving Nemora to top left then Shemira bottom left. @eager jay
Nobody, she gets evaporated almost instantly
Asking for help again, I'm having trouble here and am wondering if I can get out of this or if I have to AFK for a while
Hmmm. I think I may have done
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi @eager jay
Arden might be helpful for CC purposes, Dakota
Guess I'm going to have to wait for some more levels and/or better gear
Anyone has any advice?
14.28. Stuck in need of help. Trying to get chapter 14 done to get my Brutus to mythic. Using Saveas to do so
Did you try butrus
@hushed valley Good luck on that man. It was brutal
@hushed valley ???? You have 7 heroes leveled???
Reset them and use their exp, you're wasting so much
No just 5. The first three heroes on the bottom screen shot are all mercenaries
I haven’t tried Brutus because the difference between his damage at legendary and Estrilda at mythic is almost 50k
Oh im dumb
Hardstuck 21-9 not even a boss stage 😦
I don't get what I'm doing wrong lol maybe it's gear?
Phew. Got lucky with my next set of summons. 🙂 lyca now legendary instead of epic+
Help me please 
Hey guys ! I need help pls, i dont know what to do :s
@eager jay I think I tried a lot of times until RNG and nemora charm help me. I tried till I manage to kill one Ulums/Nemora.. then chance be higher for me to clear them..
Someone have a idea ^^ ?
Someone has an idea on this one?
@honest storm try
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Tasi
Lyca
18-26 any suggestions?
@frank moss I used these comp
👍 wow I'm dumb. first try thx
@frank moss ur welcome 👌
No way @last granite
@last granite worked for me as well 😄
@honest storm no way? It doesn't work?
@limpid quail heck yeee
Damn @last granite you stuck on 18-32 too now? they are so tanky lol
@last granite
My team get rekt so fast
@frank moss it's always that silvina man. She shields waaay too many damage 
This worked on 18-32 for me
@limpid quail lemme try that
everyone has 200 shem and 173 base and im here with 192 shem and 160 😄
@frank moss ye but you got this far and that's 👌 👌 👌
@limpid quail either im gonna need thousands retries or I need to ascend my brutus mmmm
@limpid quail I'm gonna keep retrying then, thanks for the tips!
argh... so close. Silv with 1 hp ult 1 shot my shem -___-
1 crit will make the diffrence probably 😄
I tend to just watch videos and smash retry button, usually works out 🙂
Where can I find a tier list?
https://afkarena.net/tier-list has a tier list, not all agree with every rank though
19-36 help please. Dura call or blade on shemira?
@pale kettle Try this setup. Blade on Shem. Call Tasi.
anyone has screenshot for 21-40? thanks.
any idea for 16-20 please?
Rerolling did it for me.. adn getting Arden in instead of nemora
Guys pls help me ! 😭 i'm hard stuck since two weeks
Last labyrinth battle, can't figure a way to even get them at 50%
Any suggestions??
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira
Try switching Shemira and Nemora around too. @placid willow
@scenic citrus Try moving Tasi where Saveas is. Something like
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
Tasi
Arden
@woven sedge Need some tanks in there. That Saveas and Kaz will straight up murder you, combined with Ira bleed.
anyone has screenshot for 21-44?
@ashen schooner Thanks, this is better but I still can't kill a single enemy. Maybe I should start with the rest of my heroes and weaken them?
@scenic citrus I would have switched out Arden for Lyca honestly, the haste buff can do wonders for your team. I used the meta team to beat that level which consisted of
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Everyone is dying fast, and it gets worse without Arden. My shemira is only lv100 E+ but I'll try. Thanks
Kinda stuck here cuz silvina just rapes my backlane every time. do i just need higher levels, or any way of stopping her? can show the rest of my elite heroes if needed
Any ideas?
Nemora
Shemira
Belinda/Saveas
Brutus
Tasi @untold nacelle
@viral timber do you remember on who silvina pounces on first ?
If you do place it in front of saveas
Once silvina is dealt with the next problem would be isabella
i also figured that having a lightbringers backline against that team kinda sucks since i get 25% extra dmg, but not sure if i could make a nice wilders backline with crystal switches
drop my crystal to like ~120 and overlevel my Ira?
@fresh wagon not gonna work imo.
currently shes my carry, but if its not worth then ill just wait till I L+ shem or saveas
Trying to figure out if I should sacrifice something I have here to get Shemira to Mythic. Suggestions? Don’t want to feed anything that is going to be useful later. I’m considering Silvina, but she is one of the ones i use for Wrizz/Soren right now so would need to be able to replace her.
I need help! I'm stuck on 11-38. What should i do?
21-59
Someone can help me i dont know what to do :s
@mighty summit Switch Arden out for Nemora, reset until Arden's charmed or try
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira
Stuck on 16-20 pls help
@terse bison u can use Lucius/estrilda/thoran instead Brutus. Ss is just the idea
I'm already done with it
Ferael
Brutus
Ezizh
Athalia
Shemira
Thank you tho @sand kindle
@terse bison 💪🏻👍🏻
What would be the best team for 11-36? Or, what would be the best team to support Saveas and allow him to shine? I've never used him before now, just got him to L+ finally so figured I would give him a shot.
@bronze mason dude, you're like 1000000x way ahead of everyone else lol. legendary tier heroes are fodders anyway just use silvinia as fodder.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/616375576931991682/Screenshot_2019-08-28-21-51-55.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/616375578957840397/Screenshot_2019-08-28-21-51-48.png is this possible at all with my current setup. if not who should i try to level/ascend/new formation
@glass moat use all fodder type heroes (not ones that can get to mythic) to get savaes to L+ level 160. He is by far the best early game hero. Also if you want to beat that stage use thoran, brutus as front line with shemira lyca and your nara at the back
im close to him at l+ i already have a elite+ copy for l+ its just i need 2 more elites to get him to L
Nice. Keep working at it, afk will pay off :)
lol, thanks @sleek portal I realized she wasn't on any of the decent tier charts anyway so I fed her, then used her stuff give to Fareal to replace her.
Hey guys, i'm majorly stuck.. again
9-20 and 117 in the tower
Should i focus on levelling up brutus while waiting for enough purple stuff for my other heroes (which takes forever)? Should i focus promoting another hero or putting others in the crystal?
I honestly have no clue
Would be nice if you could ping me if you got any hints for me, thanks! :)
Hi all, just a question about if I should switch up my lineup, should I post my formation then just say which other heroes I've got? Or post a pic of my hero list?
@gilded idol Post all of your heroes if you don't need help with a specific level.
@gilded idol check the pinned posts
(I think how i've done it, is how you should roughly do it)
Well here's my hero pool. The 5 at the top are my currently used formation, just wondering if anyone can give any tips for general progress.. Using Grezhul and Nora as my tanks, they get destroyed fairly quickly
I'd say your top 5 are fine, just later down the line you might want to grab someone with more dependable damage and better tank potential like Brutus or Thoran or Lucius.
Yeah I'm hoping for another tank soon. Been saving labyrinth points to get Seirus later
Ulmus is probably a better tank, though Seirus CC can be okay (but much better later in the game).
That way I can still keep my 3 and 2 bonus from 3 wild 2 grave
Hm, I could reset Grezhul in favour of Ulmus
Grezhul is better than Ulmus
If you're generally wanting a tank though, Ulmus can take more damage than Grezhul (give or take spawns for CC and his shield).
Anything I could change to make this go better?
Well Nora does the better damage of the two, in pvp she usually gets two kills by herself (with some shemira assist)
Might need some help
Kings tower 262 need some assistance 😃
Beginner here need help, :P
https://imgur.com/a/XuX6oCZ
Hi, getting really desperate on 18-40, the rating difference isnt even that high but they have enough cc and damage to stomp every comp I try in less than 20seconds
Just sharing what I used for 19-36. Didn't expect it to turn out so well
@dark tundra even using your set up nothing
Thoughts?
try nemora middle instead of tasi
I'm stuck, could really use a hand
What’s my best line up for team hunting I feel I could do a little better?
Brutus just wrecks me every time at the end
Whatsupp guys. Need yall help again. So im stuck at this level anybody got any recommendations? Maybe @ashen schooner can save me again👀
Need Urgent Help ! Can you give me an Opinion on this Circumstance in which I am? ( Next Mythical Ascension + How does this affect my current / Future Formation) ? [Seirus vs. Ulmus] [Belinda vs. Fawkes] Thank you ! https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/cwt84f/daily_team_composition_thread/eyhg3nx?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/cwt84f/daily_team_composition_thread/eyhgkz8?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
@craggy talon 90% of the time wildertrio wont work without lyca
Should I swap out Lyca for Arden or Tasi @sleek portal
@craggy talon you got to show enemy lineup for me to advice further.
Other people also welcome to help me 😂
@grim ingot belinda lucius shemira rosalind(if u have her) estrilda/raine/baden, pick 5
@craggy talon im just gonna assume silvinia jumps arden, frontline brutus face brutus shemira face golus, backline nemora lyca arden/tasi. nemora must charm saveas
@craggy talon also it'd be good if you can unlock 141 for all heroes, power spike there.
Silvania jumps Tasi first but she usually gets away and Shem finishes her off
Probably a good idea lol @sleek portal
@reef hawk maybe get another tank in instead of rosalind. like brutus or somethin i dont know. swap between saveas and ira to see who deals higer damage i guess.
@reef hawk always level dps > tank > support, no point leveling support first if your tank gonna die fast.
@thick saddle lyca nemora arden top to bottom backline
@sleek portal my frontline fine in that order?
@thick saddle yes, probably, front line doesnt matter, the important part is middle back nemora charm faerel, fight should be easy after that
She charms him but shemira is still so far from ulting and hes out of it
didn't even think about not using tasi tbh
think that niru gonna be my biggest problem
I’ve been stuck in 16-36 for a couple days
@thick saddle dura call on shemira
@tame acorn brutus face kaz shemira face estrilda backline any 3 wilder trio, nemora either charm mirael for shield or belinda for attack buff
@sleek portal what's the point in charming the ferael? he seems to get charmed same time arden roots him
@thick saddle he stuns their own team, minus their energy....
doesn't seem to cuz he's rooted by arden
I'm stumped, any help would be great
https://imgur.com/a/Nb2aooj
Any help with this Line up? Currently in chapter10 but seeing If I have a better option as still havent pulled another brutus
Hey all 🤗👋🏽 any ideas on which LB I should make next to mystic? Who’s best
@unreal storm you need level. just afk for now.
@pale kettle depending who is your other heroes, general i'd say fawkes/estrilda cause they're both accessible from store
Any suggestions on who I should be using for my line up?
@nocturne furnace what chapter are you in right now
11-28, are my guys too weak or what could i do?
Any idea how to pass this level.Tried different lineups,Belinda keeps not getting her ult off twice.Need help)
@tired plover show hero pool.
@foggy radish saveas brutus frontline, can swap around to see who tank which better, nemora must be bottom back to charm saveas, arden top back, lyca middle back, if still cannot clear it you need levels.
@sleek portal thx i will try IT :)
i dont know actually, probably get everyone to 121 first for power spike. then get 2 tank in front (maybe brutus + hogan?) i dont know. then backline MAYBE saveas + belinda + rosalind?.... usually people overlevel saveas when they play him.... then again im not too familiar with using lightbearers in early game... probably ask other people in #classic-chat for opinion.
@sleek portal the thing is it’s easiest to use LB,as there is more of them in early-mid game.I play on 4 Accounts and all of them have more LB heroes than others
@tired plover definitly, with your level im pretty sure you can go past that stage. im just not sure how to advice lol. maybe ask the whales/pros in #classic-chat
@sand kindle that doesn’t work for me at all some reason idk
@tired plover
Nemora
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Arden
She’s dying early every time
See if she can get her charm off at all
Brutus will work?I have him at E only,pretty weak,He’s maybe my 5th strongest tank.But will try.No Saveas?
Maybe try changing the Arden with Saveas then. Keep resetting until Nemora charms Saveas. @tired plover
@ashen schooner Nemora cannot get her ult off at all.But will try
Not ult, charm. @tired plover
@ashen schooner she did charm Saveas,they still wrecked me hard).But thanks
@violet pecan Try exchanging Nemora and Tasi places, that Ira will destroy your Shemira with her bleed. Reset until Nemora charms.
Halp
What is the best team I can make with what I have available? And who should I focus on upgrading first?
@smoky delta is that cop rowan i see😍
@smoky delta i loathe myself to say this but shemira, go for full focus shemira, give everything to her. higher level shem can 1v5 the whole team once she ults.
OP* @smoky delta my main focus is shemira and then rowan
shem + brut is bread and butter, it's tested, it's stable, it's obnoxious. I even say this as mono-lightbearer player. but otherwise estrilda is decent until lvl 220. twin is support with MASSIVE haste ult (but i speak only from labyrinth experience).
ok so right now I have: brutus/hogan in the front and shemira/twins/hogan in the back. but i'm not sure if this is optimal. my shemira is not strong enough to front line yet
rowan*** not hogan
Twins, brutus, shemira, rowan all Amazing
some hero only starts to shine after certain level, shem is late bloomer but she'll be massive later on.
just having trouble with some campaign levels but i'm not sure if it's because I'm underlevelled or if my team is bad
What should i do for a lineup
Having trouble on 10-19
actually most ascended tier heroes are weaker early on compared to legendary tier, it's even better to go with hogan
@pale kettle probably lightbearer + saveas, overlevel saveas, get everyone to 121
yeah i wanted to replace hogan with estrilda but that didn't really work lol
My current lineup is:
Front: lucius/hendrik
Back: sveus/belinda/rosaline
here's some legend tier that's OP at beginning: silvina, saveas, arden, mirael/morvus
@smoky delta there's literally no point in planning what lineup you wanna play now.. it all comes down to pulls/summons, you're WAY too early in the game
@pale kettle
Rosaline
Tank maybe Hendrik
Belinda or saveas
Lucius
Tasi
Call maybe on luc or tasi and eye on bel or saveas maybe
fair enough but i just want to make sure i have a team that can take me through campaign lol
Can u explain that like ur talking to a 5 year old
you can pick 2 faction, like shem + silvina, then brut + khasos + mauler/graveborn
Can luc cast his ultimate mm
Yea usually he does
is Vurk good at all?
Oh good so you need damage to kill saveas as fast as possible. So Belinda+Rosaline should have the chance
@smoky delta picking 3 faction isn't bad but you're losing the +15% atk/hp which matters too. at least have 3 heroes of 1 faction. or put celestial (in your case, the twin, but i dunno how strong they are early level).
Nope @pale kettle. Do not use either as fodder
@smoky delta dont put too much hope in twins. unless you're a whale.
Well, I used the others ( food ) to bring them here. So I have to stay another 3 months for 1 mythical, when the hero is useless anyway?
so twins are not good unless whale? using them to get faction buff welp
@pale kettle personally i'd go saveas + 4 light, lucius, hendrik, belinda, rosalind. the strategy here is buff saveas to kingdom come, luc and hendrik will protect him, while rosalind babysit saveas.
@pale kettle what....... why would you need 3 months to get mythical 🤔
So currently backline is svaeus rosaline and belinda.
Ur saying swap svaeus for tasi?
@cloud olive hm ok that’s what i was using before but I’ll try
@smoky delta the problem with twins is they're VERY hard to ascend, so unless you keep getting them in x10rolls, i wouldn't recommend them at all.
Yeah @pale kettle. Especially if you need survivability. Tasi should help you and tasi slumber adds 25 or 15% dmg
@pale kettle again, get everyone to 121, then overlevel saveas.
Ok I’ll try both cuz i have enough gems to reset
@pale kettle show 10-19, sometimes you need to change lineup to specific hero in specific stage. otherwise these lineup are solid, you just wait to level them up.
hmm well i guess rowan is good enough by himself. maybe i can replace the twins with another lightbearer hero
@cloud olive further up. He posted it
oh, my bad
@pale kettle tbh, you're being impatient in the game, trust me it doesnt take that long to get your heroes to Ascended tier, if you actually plan your heroes well.. in early-mid game you dont need more than 5-6 heroes at higher tier than E+. dont get too excited and waste all your fodders making all your heroes L they are useless
@still oar For crystal I already have other Legendary + heroes. You realize that before I get to factional towers, I have to be in Chapter 15 right? And until then, I gather other at least legendary heroes anyway. It's stupid to be stuck for this, with useless heroes.
Anyone care to help me out here
@pale kettle show your hero pool.
@sleek portal After you open 15 packs, and get 3-4 useless elite heroes, I don't know how you can stay locked for a few more months?
@pale kettle show your hero pool...
@pale kettle you might wanna read the pinned message over #classic-questions
@pale kettle 1 hendrik, 2 lucius, 3 rosaline, 4/5 saveas/belinda. iirc belinda is weak early on, so can't rely on her. you basically ignore everything on top row and focus killing bottom row. saveas and isabella is your main problem, if they're dead. the stage's a breeze.
putting belinda on 5 should make her ult both their isabella and saveas, but i dunno if she can oneshot them. generally you should level 1 heroes to max level like lvl 140 belinda/saveas instead of levelling them evenly. otherwise wait til both lvl 140 i think you should have it in bag
Alright tasi instead of sveas really helped and i beat it
ok nvm, wrote all that for nothing lel, congrats.
gZ ! Mang
Sorry lol
Thanks guys
it's ok, glad you clear it.
Is there a better lineup I should be using with these heroes?
Not sure what to do for this, new to the game. I have an elite thane I'm not using and none of the rest of these heros.
@civic helm tasi
I want to make that changes în 2 weeks - one month ( Not now )
@pale kettle all i can say is at your level ascension dont matter unless you're level capped, which you're currently not. you can L+ your legendary tier heroes (arden/hogan/mirael) first and 100% wont get capped at 140. by 160 you'll have enough copy for your main to go L+ and use your fodders to M. there's literally no rush in getting them higher in low level it wont do anything.
@pale kettle and stop L your main hero lineup or any other ascended tier heroes, UNLESS you are certain they can go L+
@civic helm depend on your lineup, my general rule of thumb is go at least with 2 faction. i'd say thane/tasi since i've tried both and they're satisfying in their role. skreg isn't bad, but afaik he only shines after certain level, probably 160+, i never got the graveborn girl.
Really... no 1?
@violet pecan youtube is probably your best friend.
@cloud olive this is my current lineup
@sleek portal I'm not using them ( arden / hogan / mirael ). How to be useless if they become stronger ? 🤔 What logic does it have if I ascend it now, or ascend it in 1-2 months? Not to say that with all the faction, gold gear and all the legendary minimum, they are killed almost instantly on this prezent level ?
@pale kettle you dont need to use them, just ascend them so you dont get level capped at 140. currently your lucius fawkes tasi estrilda will get stuck indefinitely until you get E+ copies of them.. you wanna make sure you dont get level capped at 140, your main hero can stay in resonating crystal and do just fine with the levels. and no you WONT get stuck for months unless you keep on L every other hero you see.
@sleek portal youtube have shemira 240 5 stars with full mythic+ gear.... i am not into that... i am looking for minimum needed and rng, what need to happen for me to succed... so yea...
In 21-4 i saw shemira safya combo and it worked... but i can not counter Ira Nemora combo... so hard.... even whem i charm opponent nemora my shemira silence her and ira melts shemira down to 0 like paper
The changes I want are in at least 2 weeks, when I will probably be blocked a little at level 140 due to lack of resources.
@wind radish wow that stage is annoying, first thing first, move thane to bottom row. he'll get destroyed blinking to 2 agility heroes like saveas and spiderlady. if that saveas doesn't deal highest damage, switch him with estrilda/arden and put thane to back row. 3wilder+2light or 4wilder+1 light is better in stats than making room for saveas.
focus your damage on bottom row, centaur is very tanky below 50% health it's actually easier to kill brutus sometimes than him. But if you can burst top row, that lineup is fine. I like arden in general tho, since you're wilder team, i think it's good enough to put him.
@pale kettle i really suggest you read the pinned messages in #classic-questions it'll help. then again its your account, good luck.
@civic helm you wont go far with ulmus in PVE
@violet pecan i'd try swapping tasi for arden, put dura call on shemira nemora middle back lyca bottom back arden try to root 3 nemora charm nemora to charm 1 hero, if you know what i mean.
Who would you replace him with? @violet pecan
@civic helm ouch, literally none of these are heroes you're using. you could go with everyone at this point... safest pick imo is tasi since she's banisher/disabler, and every lineup could always use extra disable.
@cloud olive thane is actually the only one that survives for more than 2 seconds at 1 position 😦
@civic helm i would use shemira front and mehira in back instead of ulmus
@sleek portal What is my main hero related to, above level 140? I need 5 legedary + heroes to pass level 140, to help others level. And I read the rules. I still do not understand why I have to stay with legendary + useless heroes. Wouldn't it be better if I didn't raise anyone from the elite +, to stay for a few months to collect food? Makes no sense. Anyway food will come anyway, that now, that over a certain period, and it will still help me.
replacing saveas with arden worked, thanks a lot
@wind radish in that stage, pos 1 is sacrifical role, unless you have true tank which so far there's none (ulmus is decent tank but only after 160+ i think). second bet is estrilda i think. put nemora on 3 and pray she charms saveas.
edit: nevermind, congrats.
yeah thane actually survived in position 1 somehow
i play mono light bearer, thane is insane even later on. he has high dodge and on higher level, 2 of his skill gives him invulnerability for few sec, if you could focus him i'd focus him. but well, getting thane is hard.
think of him as very very better version of vedan.
hmh can't seem to beat this one. Lb are supposedly mauler counter but they performed worse than wilders lol.
thankfully i got really lucky on thane drops early on
@tidal pelican backline top to bottom, arden lyca nemora, front line lucius and saveas, swap to see who tanks which better, nemora must charm saveas otherwise restart. if it still doesnt work just afk for level for your tank
@tidal pelican you can even swap lucius for brutus for 3-2 bonus, just need nemora to charm saveas and arden roots 2 and let your saveas do the job
^what he said
Issue is nemo dies before ult when vs save , and luci gsts one shot as well on front
@violet pecan that worked thank you for the help!
my tank is lv capped i have to llv evwryone else to have him go up thru crysfal :/ Can L him but ppl said wait L+ copy so hes just E+
@violet pecan try switching lyca with shem and moving your backline around/trying arden, i dont remember how i beat it aside from lyca and brutus frontline, i had 1 star shem and lvl 200 brutus, everyone else 180 so it should be doable
@tacit kayak so rng basicly... i will try thanks
most stages are just lots of rng at that point yeah
unless you manage to get 240 shem
Help guys. Silvina is destroying my back line. I tried putting a weak mage as bait but still loss.
@tacit kayak putting shem behind brutus and charming ira did the work. Thank you good sir
feel like im really close but my tasi always dies like a second too early any tips?
@sleek portal ok thanks briutus and big RNG worked 👌
oh nvm i finally rnged my way through it
@violet pecan haha np, glad you made it
@pale kettle not sure what are rest of your heroes, so far switch lucius and shemira and hope her ult is enough to kill everyone.
Please help 
@unreal storm replace either nemora/tasi with... uuuh i forgot his name, that armadillo wilder. put him on bottom-front, put saveas in back. both top and bottom have very annoying tanks, unless you can burst that centaur, focus your firepower on bottom row and kill brutus, and then the rest of the team.
in general you need one more frontliner since saveas is best as backlane hitter.
Get arden 81
how many people did arden root? if he stills root 1, he's replacable with nemora/tasi.
Thx @cloud olive, I was able to up my nemora from epic+ to leg+, swap Tasi for Nem and that did the trick 😃
glad that worked!
Suggestions here? It's slapping me around pretty good.
Any thoughts or am i too low?
Need help with 14-8 please
@sly sparrow I would work on trying to fix that level gap. I beat it with that exact lineup but my backline was 160
That will be a long time though AFKing...
@sly sparrow
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Won ty
Should honestly make ch 15, now you hit 180 and above 141.
Wilders ....
I could use a little help, I am not sure if i am outleveled or not. This is my line up and my available characters
@pallid oasis yes it could be that you are out leveled, but your team is pretty strong and with enough attempts you could beat it. I am also stuck at 100k power difference. It seems like it is some kind of progress cap or maybe the enemy is just way too strong hehe 😃
I probably just need to AFK at this point huh?
9-16?
Ya
yeah im stuck on that too, I'd guess nara but my crystal isn't open for her and right now nemora is causing me big pain
@unreal storm level up your Nemora.
@thorn tapir meta
Seeing lots of Shamira in the front. Is she really that tanky that it works out, even though she's a caster?
She's the queen of regen
I get she has lots of sustain
Any thoughts? Poison hurts lol
Can anyone tell me what they used to beat this? I’ve re tried 50+ times with every combination
@indigo jolt Is this doable... or should i wait and level heroes
Team 360k: Saveas 160, brutus, lyca, aiden, tasi 141. Equipment: Saveas 4M, brutus,tasi 3 M
I dont use saveas anymore
Can still use shemira, just try that formation
Okay thank youu
@pale kettle swap lyca w raine, luc and hendrik pos?
Can just google afk arena + stage you're stuck on and there are videos on it.
Anyone got any idea i get destroyed
you are farther than me, but I am also stuck on a level with that wilder ranger character in chapter 14. Try Shemira, Brutus up front, in back Tasi, Nemora, Arden? thats just a guess though
Kaz and Lyca, plus that wilder ranger is nuts damage D:
At the last 20 seconds I can’t defeat Kaz legendary tier and have all my heroes alive need some more damage
Ohh its crazy
Any idea
How can I defeat kaz she dodge or immune
Use mages, magical attacks ignore dodge stat.
Ok ty for info I will try
@muted blaze wait why did u lvl all ur heroes
just level 5 heroes and keep the rest at 1
@plush kelp try lucius, shemira, rosaline berlinda arden
Ty very much @west iron it worked
@sinful rock I like the heroes need 1 more hero and then I have a good team need Rosa
And my Saveas is rare + I don’t get Saveas to elite : /
you should level 5 heroes and resonate the rest into the crystal
if you wanna swap any use 20 diamond to reset
Can you help me pls 😭
Ok, what is peak of time I unlocked
is like another campaign that gives different rewards
thx
Good stuff, what if I click finish adventure???
Then you end it and have to start all over again if you begin it again. Helps to reset the adventure if needed
Why you need to reset it? To get all the loot again I guess?
Nope, in case you mess up or can't move forward any more
@west iron it doesnt work... ogi kills shem
May need better equipment maybe..
They have best gear possible... weird
AD how did you know that magical ignore dodge? Have you any YT video suggestions to watch so I know more?
I already watch Nero gaming
Can also try lyca in front of estrida and brutus infront of ogi. Then shem behind lyca and tasi in the middle. Hopefully lyca has enough dodge to avoid estrida's first hit.
Gah unpossible... i will just wait and lvl everyone
Sometimes speed x2 works or put it off @sly sparrow
It's all from experience and asking around and searching web when there's something uncertain
Mannnnnn I need nemora!
Nope you need shemira
Hey guys, any ideas?
Having issues with mission 5-12. Here is the mission and my units.
idea: google the stage you're stuck on first to see if there are any helpful videos on it.
That’s a good way
Also, Just wondering why u are not using shemira? @brittle maple
You can put the exp and dust onto shemira by resetting thane then use wilder cc, I think the best is with Arden on middle
@hot topaz because if she can’t get her ult off she’s no bueno
I really don't want to play with Shem on this account.
I see, interesting
@hot topaz what would you recommend for my lineup then using Shem and Arden?
@brittle maple oh my god I am sorry I tagged the wrong person, I was tagging accelerate but hold up, let me look at yours
@west iron all videos use shemira, thanks though
@brittle maple I think you can try Arden on the 4th place, I really don’t know what can the new hero do lol
@ivory cairn Try this: (On the rickerty cart) Reset Vurk, Seirus, Arden and Vedan. Upgrade Saveas with the resources and get him to lv.61 or even 70, then upgrade Shemira a bit (lv.41 maybe) and try this comp:
Saveas
Brutus
Numisu
Hogan
Shemira.
Any help
Thank you @sudden sparrow :)
So it seems that in a lot of the battles, resetting heroes will be the key for a lot of battles.
Well I’m stuck lol
@patent oak your shemira can’t get to 181+? Then any searching of help on YouTube videos can help your current stage
@hot topaz i cant up
You can switch nemora and lyca, to see if she can charm Arden to root his own team
@patent oak try nemora, shemira, tasi lyca arden
if their arden roots your shemira at the start you can just restart the round
your arden needs to root kaz 2x den tasi will pop her ult
arden will probably root before you can charm, better use your own arden + lyca to root arden before he can root.
But sheim cant take lyca and org
Can't beat this shit, Vedan shreds everyone, any tips
folol the seq
@ivory cairn I don't think you'll really have to reset anyone in that team comp, besides Numisu but it'll maybe take you till c.7 or 9 to do so. Keep using it untill no matter how leveled your heroes are you think you won't clear a certain stage, then come back here to ask for advice 🤠
@sinful rock huh?
- lucius, 2. brutus, 3, berlinda 4. mirael, 5.saveas
Can someone give me advice. Im stuck on 15-40.
This seems to be the comp that gets me the closest to beating it but its still not there.
Edit: Fawks coffins the Ferael
thanks for the help again @sudden sparrow 🙂
Any halp?
@sly sparrow Passed it?
@sinful rock thanks bro, finally beat it. Took a few upgrades and swaps but got it done
@weak nova halp @versed kite plz
@lament wigeon np 😄
@versed kite Who does Fawkes coffin?
jz try the meta shem brut nemora lyca tasi team comp
@versed kite Might be easier with more cc.
Shem
brutus
Nem / (arden if you have crystal spot)
Lyca
Tasi
I wish there was a way to get a specific hero
Tips
Try
Fawkes
---- Shemira
Lyca
---- Brutus
Tasi
What are the best heroes formation?
How??????
Webmaster try
Nemora
---- Estrilda
Rosaline
---- Baden
Belinda
Do you have Lyca stalin?
Yeh but i don't like her!!
Still pretty new. What’s my best team here?
With the heroes you've got, those top five heroes aren't a bad lineup. I'd try to ascend and level up Saveas if you get the chance though
Probably want to do something like
Thane
---- Lucius
Belinda
---- Hogan
Rosaline
or something similar to that maybe?
That’s what I’ve been running. I just pulled Brutus. Is he good to use even tho he’s off faction?
Brutus isn't good until level 81+
Like Xerxez said, Brutus will be really good (vital, even) eventually, but as of yet he's not very useful for you
Shit I wish I saw your message sooner cause I used saveas to ascend golus
You'll get plenty more of him. Blue-tier heroes are never too hard to come by
@ornate totem
Try
Tasi if you have her
---- Brutus
Lyca
---- Shemira
Arden
Do I keep leveling Belinda or make someone else my carry at this point
@copper moon ahhh meta hate metas but can try
Meta is Meta for a reason XD
Saveas is a good carry but until you pull another one of him and ascend it a bit I'd focus on Belinda or Thane probably? Not sure on that one, if someone else has an idea please chime in
Saveas can work at Rare+ just need to focus on getting him gear.
I wish I hadn’t just used him as fodder lmao
it happens to all of us from time to time lol
@copper moon but i knove you can play without meta!
just ask @weak nova lol. meta? what meta? LB all day erry day
Any suggestions?
Swap Brutus and Shemira and Tasi and Arden
@pallid lake
i’m new to the game, what would be best line up out of what i have?
@pale kettle I would go ahead and put Saveas in your resonating crystal, first of all
@indigo jolt thanks, I’ll spam it til it works haha
Then probably something along the lines of
Tasi
---- Lucius
Lyca
---- Saveas
Arden or Nemora
thank you!!
no problem! You'll want Saveas to be your main damage dealer pretty much until you can get a Shemira at 160 or higher
Honestly I would never suggest Saveas frontline
@pale kettle Xerxez knows more than I do about this stuff, definitely go with what they say rather than me lol
His damage is based on current health so the less he is hit the stronger his hits are
I almost always ran saveas frontline except for certain stages tbh, but you’re right there
Saveas frontline works if hes overlevelled, and its based on max health not current i believe.
Maybe Lyca as the other frontline then? I didn't run meta until recently so idk
@indigo jolt I love you 😂😂
Only took like 3 tries
ayyyeeeee nice
I always just type stage into search bar and look for clear posts XD
lmao dang i shoulda thought of that a long time ago, i've just been searching YouTube
Yw @pallid lake
I still haven't found anyone that cleared 20-26 with 200 Shemira...
@copper moon yeah I did that earlier and I still was stuck until I made a change to their lineup 😂
I think I might have? Honestly I don't remember. I definitely needed her at 220 to beat 20-27 though
My friend is at 21-59 with 220 shem tho
@copper moon that’ll be tough. How’s the rest of your roster? I’m on the verge with a 205 shem, 180 crystal
Whas 20-26? im slowly farming myself thorugh early ch20 while i wait for final Shem copy.
@copper moon what about resetting lucius, getting 180 crystal and moving shem up?
@plucky flint Try switching Nem and Tasi.
@indigo jolt shem gets destroyed without nem to charm vedan. Bringing silv to aggro shem would only exacerbate
I would do that if I had the 30k dust already XD
I got it to 1v1 with shem v shem. Just think I need another level or two. The hard rng part is just keeping tasi alive long enough to ult and having Shem survive vedan’s bats
How good is khasos? I'm considering investing in him from the lab store now that I have an ascended shemira
He's not amazing but he's solid. Mid-tier/situational I'd say
Mmk, still better than numisu though, who is my other option, right?
@neon urchin yeah better than numisu. Khasos’ sig is really strong
Def better than Numisu
Thanks guys, probably go with him as I keep praying for more copies of Brutus
So I have been stumbling through the super early game with a handful of people, but I'm pretty sure I've been focusing on the wrong team... what five should I be working on?
Anyone got tips for 11-32?
remove sav and put lyca there, with the borrowed shem in front maybe
Sav and luci front , Belinda rowan tasi
lucius and save up to is a little better but i might just need to level up more lol
@unique kestrel I’d put rowan in your lineup. No idea how the two new mauler heroes do in early game. Would go ahead and get your vedan to E and use him as your carry till you can ascend sav higher
Could someone help me with a potential line up? :)
@plucky flint what would that look like? I can get my vedan to E, but then do I just reset some of my people and dump everything into vedan?
me?
@unique kestrel lucius hogan rowan arden vedan, I guess. Arden’s gonna kinda suck until lvl 81 though
@unique kestrel I wouldn’t stress about it too much, you’re still early enough that you’re gonna get a lot of heroes dumped on you. Use scrolls and faction cards on wilders
Wilders? Why is that? Also I just impulsively bought a shemira, if it helps any @plucky flint
Use all your faction cards on wilders, don't worry about it right now, just do it, you wont regret it later, i'm at chapter 21 rn and I regret using my faction scrolls on lightbearers earlier, nemora/lyca/tasi are very strong
What would you say is the best comp I can line up with that ? I currently run Lucius Hendrik Rosaline Belinda Fawkes
That said, light bearers will help you greatly now
@unique kestrel wilders because nemora tasi lyca is a very popular and good backline. Combined with shem and brutus is commonly known as the meta lineup and very strong. It's one of the more common recommendations made
So I have seen several "wilders because nemora/tasi/lyca" but none of them are oh God I just realized I was confusing maulers and wilders NEVERMIND
I made it to chapter 21 using shemi/brutus and lyca/tasi/nemora(or arden instead), it's very strong in pve
Ok yeah now that my brain is working properly the Wilders recommendations make perfect sense again. Sorry for the dumb
I would put lyca in the middle, tasi top et nemora bot, so nemora charms ennemy arden so he roots his allies, and I would try this with shemi top and bot and see what works better
oh right there is an enemy lyca too, well I would keep trying this comp with lyca in the middle and arden bot or top depending on who your tasi uses her silence on
I wish I had started saving my end screenshots from chap 16, I remember being stuck on 16-40 forever
then keep this comp and put arden top so he probably roots ogi
but I would say put lyca in front of ogi as well, it makes him walk forward so arden has time to root before he gets pounded, that's my general strat vs ogi
Should I gear Tasi first or Rosaline? Assuming I'm using both on the team
Yes sometimes it's good to put lyca frontline, with the dodge dura's item, if she can dodge 2 or 3 hits it makes the difference, I've used this more than once between chapter 17 and 21
there's a dura item with dodge?
I just found that, never even looked at the stats for dura artifacts
how does drape work? is it health recovery for that unit, or healing caused by that unit? I've had mine on nemora because I didn't entirely understand it - edit I guess this is better for questions
hmm if that puts arden's def higher than others, then maybe I can use arden better vs silvina levels
Help with 16-20 pls
Advise please
Need advice please for 6-28 and PvP.
@craggy talon Drop Nem for Lyca, put tasi at bottom lyca middle back.
does this look doable? I mess around with bottom back, nara seems to do ok, arden is irregular, overall it's just hard
also why is ulmus always immune to tasi's ult edit: nm now I read his ult and I get it
Thanks @indigo jolt
@vital lagoon antandra is not a good hero earlu game. You'd better off using other dps like mirael/ira/silvina
Also try swapping safiya with nemora/lyca
@wise kestrel supposedly yes, I've seen someone with lower level than yours beat this stage before
Any suggestions on 18-40?
I just beat 18-40 running
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
well then
@wise kestrel ah pretty close to what did it for me lol
I searched back and tried that one a few times while I was waiting on an answer and ended up working 😅
I'm really struggling finding a reliable frontline with my current heroes does anyone have suggestions
What should I do?? Im not pulling a second lucien (in 120 pulls) to legend plus him and it would take about 4-500 rares to just legend these elites.
@urban garnet rosaline can take the place of a frontliner as long as who she follows is strong enough to kill the enemies quickly. Tasi has the dodge abilities to take the frontline position, but would make the person behind her vulnerable, although shemira behind her should work until shemira is high enough lvl to be the frontliner herself
Yes that's what I've currently been running I just get into the problem of my sav Instadying
@shut parrot diligence, friend. These things will not come easily. Even with mythic+ shemira I’m still using Legendary lucius only. The levels matter more than the rarity, so don’t worry too much when you can’t get L+ and beyond. E+ will suffice as long as your equipment and levels can keep up
@urban garnet instead of leveling everyone together, leave them at lvl 81 or 61 and overlevel seveas to be as strong as his ascension allows. He will hard carry you till he is maxed completely.
@median nexus I can't upgrade my crystal levels without more mythics : (
crystal level 160, huh?
Any suggestions for what I should be running, been have trouble lately in chapter 10 and arena
@nocturne furnace Shemira really kicks off in lvl 141, get her there and keep her over leveled.
@shut parrot I honestly can't tell you anything but saving wisely for the guaranteed elites from Lab, Champoin shop, and retirement
afk arena is afk by nature. things will take time. sometimes more than we'd like it to
meanwhile my numisu and belinda are about 200, nemora and shem to follow and soon my lyca, but the 5th one would need to be estri but she always dies first so i'd rather beef up up my frontline because all my DPS are mid-fight @median nexus so i'm not too far from the last two mythics but my weak front line is keep me stuck, I know i can wait out the mythics at least but not all these elite pluses. the heck do i do with 6 thanes? |D
Hi
@shut parrot Honestly, Feed em. Thane isn't an SS+ tier hero, nor does he ever become one. There is a stigma about never feeding ascended heros, but honesly, if you're a f2p, it would be best to focus more on besting the best rather than having the best of everything
just my two cents on that
Thanks~
I was told to come here.i need help getting past chapter 10.i don't know what characters are best. I currently use belinda, lucius, ulmus, isa Ella and estrilda legendary level 137.please help
@vital robin if you can, post a picture of all your units plus the level
it's easiest to help ya out if we know everything you're working with and the enemies you're fighting against exactly
I am having an issue on Wrizz hard mode that I cant explain if someone understands what is going on. One of my heroes turns a greenish color a few seconds into the fight and their health drops pretty much instantly after a second or two. One after the other, then Wrizz will often times regain health not even halfway through the fight. Can somebody tell me wtf is happening?
The greenish thing is poison, not sure what the health regain is
I think it's just the bar resetting after his aggro level goes up
He also ALWAYS dodges my brutus ult
@vital robin the pictures of level itself and the enemies in it would be good to see
@soft plover Unless you have someone distracting him (like baden), you will likely need two healers minimum. I use lucius + rowan and that makes sure no one gets erased till the end of battle. If you can, try to make sure he is attacking only your strongest hp/def units to minimize damage. your backline should only suffer from his aoe bombing
Baden works amazingly, however, and I would love to have one to use in wrizz
Grezhul is really good for Soren, but you have to manually ult and get the timing right to make sure he's facing away all the time
I have been able to easily kill him with the same lightbearer team every time for weeks
Kill him? Are you talking about Lab Wrizz or Guild Hunt Wrizz
Lab
Okay, that makes much more sense, that said Lab Wrizz scales directly with your levels instead of getting progressively stronger, so maybe your average levels just reached a point where he got stronger than he used to be
And now hes impossible
relic selection matters insanely for Lab Wrizz. I always base whether or not to do him on my relics. Always buffing attack and defense and energy recovery as much as i can
Relics dont mean a thing when his stupid poison thing kills my Athalia in less than a second
Sorry I took long I was getting a little further.
@vital robin try using Rowan to keep your guys alive by placing him in backline center and place athalia across from the boss isabella to distract her long enough for your lucius + ulmus to ult and your belinda might deal enough damage by then. I would normally give leveling advice except everyone seems to be at max ascension level
I assume the answer is lucius, like, how the answer is always Shemira... but get lucius to legendary or Belinda to L+?
Owo. Thanks for the help
Also, ascending skreg is almost certainly the worst mistake you've made thus far. skreg will not help you any late game
eventually they might buff him 🤷
They have to buff him
@upper vale Almost, who is your best dps, seveas or belinda. if belinda level her, if you don't use her stuff as often i'd say lucius
I know but I have a habit of ascending everything at once when I can and skreg was my only shot... And he was one of the first legendary I got
not level, ascend. That and you'll definitely get more belinda copies than lucius, so it'll be easier to ascend her later on
@median nexus thanks, I dont use her as often but I'm not close enough to get Seveas to L or L+... could be a while
What's your guys name in afk
Unless I get another Skreg... hes getting foddered asap
@vital robin no problem, just be sure to get him to L+ so you can use him for a mythic ascension on your brutus maybe
Ok
@vital robin This is for lineup formations only, kindly ask them their ids next time in DM or could also be in off-topic.☺️
@upper vale for now you could ascend lucius and experiement overleavling seaveas/belinda to see which one functions better. Might cost a 100 or so diamonds tho
And I oop-
Who should I be using and leveling up the highest? Still pretty new
that said, you could L+ belinda rn, which is big
That's fine, I use subscription so it's worth taking a shot. Thanks for the advice @median nexus
I'm not sure where to go with this little lot
@sweet pasture you are EXTREMELY early in this game. just figure out which heroes are good to keep and just play the game naturally for now. if you must know overlevling belinda can carry you, but you'll eventually want to switch to sevaes since he's big buff early game
Oh and a random question, but I should not cannibalize an E+ Seveas for an L Seveas, correct? Getting him to L+ is about as good as one can hope for eh?
@upper vale 100% just wait. unless you get a second E+ seveas, you want to hold on to the one you have
@median nexus worth getting Lucius to 81? Or just putting everything into Belinda?
@median nexus cheers man, you're so helpful. Thanks for everything you add to this server
@barren gate dang, from the looks of it your guys are all at level cap, huh? if they're the possibility now might be the the only time you want to buy 2-3 rares to get someone, ANYONE to legendary. your elite hero selection is great, just be sure to ascend an ascended tier hero (or arden/seveas) instead of a rare tier hero
Also, thanks @upper vale. I do this just cause I find solving other people's unique issues fun, and occasionally I learn something good for myself :)
@barren gate using your two hogans to ascend lucius would be a good start
@median nexus well in games like this where money is on the line, good prep is crucial and for us noobs, your help is invaluable
@median nexus I was thinking that but I was then told that Hogan's were good 😂
Also using your silvina and vedan to ascend shemira is an excellent choice from now till forever
They are good, early game. Once you have better heroes, he quickly falls in the dust. And sir, you definitely have good heroes to ascend.
@upper vale happy to help. I would have loved this advice starting off as well XD
Ascended both you suggested :) thank you IL work on shimira now instead of seveas?
Maybe not. If you can get shemira to lvl 141 right now, that would be best and she can begin doing good work for you. However, if not seveas is still your go-to guy
IL take her out of the thingy and reset the elronn
that, and if you can get two more elite maulers in time, an L+ seveas will do wonders for you till he hits 160.
Any advice for beating this lab? The support the computer has is nuts
So in theory I could run shimira and seveas.. along with Brutus? And others (don't know what others)
@lament wigeon This is lab, so whoever resonates with your relics most is likely the best choice
@barren gate Yes, later in the game that is a very viable comp. You would pair that likely with Lucius/Nemora +Tasi/Fawkes, to account for healing and cc. Only issue is that you forsake the bonus for good characters instead. You might have better luck synergizing with other characters, but that comp will work better some places than others
Fair..welp, more trial and error to go
Floor 60 of the Brutal Citadel. Should I just use my top 4 Maulers and hope for the best? Which of the two available Mercenaries would be best to bring?
welp, not me. maybe peter knows what to do here.
That looks like a nightmare, poetic
Help in this? I really want to pass this level
Yeah, @lament wigeon, it’s really unpleasant
@gusty meadow you're early game rn, so maybe getting everyone to lvl 41 will help you since that unlocks a new skill. Maybe take down vedan to get them all to 41
I literally just did it. Pretty much the only things that were important were Brutus and Safiya, so yeah I'd just throw your top four maulers in and see what happens
Vedan? Whats that?
Vedan is the vampire lad at lvl 50
If that doesn't work try and throw in the Brutus merc
Thanks. I’ve been beating my head against this floor for two weeks so I may just start with the merc in
my mauler lineup sucks for it...besides brutus and seveas everyone else is just filler. Got antandra recently, should I plant her in?
Might not hurt. I had her in but idk if she actually did anything lmao, she died real quick
yea, she squishy. Maybe not. vurk, khasos, and numisu likely make better filler.
Khasos is good to throw in for the life leech
Do you think I should L+ vurk when I get the chance? I'm only 1 vurk away from it, and I like him but he's not really thought much of generally
@median nexus Obliterated Still ;-;
Eh he's fine, can be good situationally when you need sustain cleave damage
I hate that Lyca
@gusty meadow what you running?
Wdym? Im new here ;-; i dont know that terms yet
What is your lineup?
@gusty meadow early on Ira's bleed can help deal very good damage once you unlock it
but from the looks of it, you might just need more levels. Since vedan is a graveborn, he dies easily to these guys (wilders beat graveborn) so you might wanna over level warek instead since mauler beats wilders
Tips?
Whats the typing resistances and weakness of this game?
@gusty meadow It goes like this:
Lightbearer > Graveborn > Wilder > Mauler >Lightbearer
Well maybe its a bad idea to full Graveborn (because tharos and Shemira is cool)
Ill guess ill go with Wilder + Graveborn? Instead. Anyways Thank you
@median nexus
@gusty meadow Keep in mind that no character (except lucius, rowan, and nemora) can carry for the whole game. Every hero has their time to shine and when they hit that level you gotta know to invest in them. This channel is good for that.
I wish I was high enough level to actually help.
Level up your heroes first off but you're low enough to where you can just use your highest heroes
Yeah do that that any hero you out on the crystal takes the level of your 5th highest hero
Only level up 5 heroes
Which would you suggest as an all rounder line up then?
Brutus, lucius in front and Belinda tasi saveas back
Okay
Keep in mind a characters level is determined by their tier so level up your 5 e+ heroes then put the Es and lower on the crystal
You can reset their level later on when you get heroes higher tier
should I use diff lineup?
Am I just too underleveled for this?
@zealous palm hire a high ascended warek and you're good
I finally beat 19-20 but 19-38 has me stumped. I tried Nemora to get her to charm Arden but she gets killed and never charms him, I tried Arden but he never wraps them. Nara distracts Arden temporarily but when Kaz gets finished with Lyca Nara goes down and Shem gets wrapped before she can ult. If Tasi survives this long, she will ult at this point and Shem will get to fire hers right before Ogi comes and slams her to the ground and kills her. What am I missing?
@zealous palm you need high mercenary Warek
@void otter brutus ALWAYS face kaz, lyca face ogi, put nemora in to charm arden or use athalia to cancel arden
Rip no one on my friends list has one, the highest is a legendary lol
literally need a hihh ascended warek and you can 2v5 with brutus lol
cant beat this, any ideas?
And give your Brutus sword for that floor @zealous palm
@sleek portal I tried that before but Ogi makes quick work of Lyca and goes right for Shemira and ends her.
@void otter if your lyca just cant survive, i suggest hiring Estrilda to face ogi.
@cosmic trellis keep trying untill Nemora charms arden
OH LMAO @void otter we're having hte same issue
@sleek portal nope, Estrilda goes down just as quick as Lyca. The best runs I’ve had so far are the comp I showed in the pic. It’s the only way I can manage to get Shem to ult. :/
@cosmic trellis this one is confusing. I knew what the problem with 19-20 was, I just needed to AFK. This one I can’t figure out how to counter though.
its either you use Athalia to cancel arden or use nemora to charm arden, you need faction M gear for nemora for her to charm faster. brutus always face kaz in this enemy lineup. you can either choose lyca or high ascended estrilda to face ogi, shemira backline and last spot should always be either tasi or arden, that's how everyone with metalineup pass that stage afaik. if it doesnt work then keep trying i guess. you're definitely in the level to beat the stage.
I got it. I did
Athalia
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
Third try, Athalia stunned Kaz with her ult and Tasi fired her ult right before Ogi was going to throw Shem.
only have e+ athalia 😦
Athalia doesn’t have to be super strong... she just has to interrupt Arden and distract Kaz long enough. Gear her up and she will be fine.
lets find out
i did it by using athalia to cancel arden and she eventually push arden into brutus territory so brutus ults and both kaz and arden dies at the same time.
Yeah whenever you’re using wilders and Athalia, try it like 50 times.
Of course I can’t take down the Brutus on the next stage so it didn’t do me much good 🤣
@void otter finish that chapter 19 bruv... grats on passing btw.
@cosmic trellis you can do it.
Lol this Brutus is impossible so I think I might be stuck again. I can get it down to him and Shem but he literally takes her out in three hits which is more than enough time for his invincibility to do its thing.
what's the enemyt lineup?
The faster you drop Brutus' health the faster he gets his big damage boost
I got him. And I beat 19-40 too. Ascended Tasi is god mode 😂
Did anyone else have a bad time with 20-54 or just me?
lmao i started and walked away
It's amazing how much Ulmus levels all seem to suck lol
came back and beat it @golden stone 20-34? whats 20-54
it is a thing that sucks very much and i hate it
omg yea there are 60 levels lol good luck
Hey guys I know I'm pretty low, but I'm stuck on 4-36 and needing some help
@proper pebble if you're really stuck even after trying for 10 times then its best to afk for level, but as far as i can see you're using 3 tanks 1 semi dps and 1 support, generally you'd want 2 tanks 2 support 1 carry or 1 tank 1 carry 3 support.
Thanks bro, I was really trying to use all my purples and keep them a high level. Any idea of a different comp I can use? Or am I better off just waiting and leveling?
keep summoning first, you're literally like 2-3 hours into the game?... there's no way in telling what comps you need to use, first 5-6 chapters is all about levels actually.
Think I’m back at my stopping point, melted every time
Ah ok I'll try to best to summon and just keep being patient with the levels
Anyone remember how KT floor 239 went? Having trouble with this setup
It was what Ayuh Le used on YouTube but I'd guess it took them a lot of tries
@golden stone i think you need either a higher level shem or hire mercenary. i got past with mercenary so maybe im wrong
I feel like maybe it's doable with 220 because that's what the video used, but there might have been buffs or nerfs since it was made so you might be right about that
@golden stone the only way i see that lineup happening is all 3 wilders have faction M boots to make them proc faster than enemy arden
and they don't, unfortunately. maybe that's why it worked in the vid. edit: in the vid they all had M boots but only Tasi had faction M boots
Oh man, another Niru stage. 20-8. I have tried to charm Arden but Shem goes down before she can ult and my Arden doesn’t wrap the enemy even with mythic gear from Nemora.
when you swap tasi out did you give dura call to shemira? but anyway it's best to use youtube for chapter 20 progression. it really helps. from Ayuh Le and the Vitaly guy .
Ah I forgot to switch it back. I will go look on YouTube. Thanks. I am okay with hitting a bit of a wall here. I passed my friend who has been playing a week longer and is stuck on 9-20 so I feel accomplished haha.
Not sure which lineup to use at soren
@high lantern i use shemira baden estrilda rosalind and nemora and reached 35m. i use nemora cause i need the heal but im pretty sure there's better lineup out there... im curious on the answer as well
Considering I'm only hitting like 12 million I'll try that out who do I put up front and in the back
Maybe the classic Tasi-Lyca-(Nemora or Arden) backline?
Passed it with my friend rng
good deal
Any help? Thanks
Nemora
Brutus
Fawkes
Tasi
Shemira @solemn gull Test that.
Sure, thanks
Plz help it hurts lol
Maybe swap Khasos and Saveas? Not sure but it could be worth a shot
I would overlevel your saveas more @brittle maple
that too
Working on it. I got the kill. Moved my saveas up top and it killed the Glaus then 3 shot the enemy saveas
Yeah just moving stuff around and even retrying the same formation a bunch of times is usually the way to get unstuck
I'm definitely going to call Golus Glaus now just fwiw
Any tips? I
@summer hatch I would swap in lyca for haste and try to burst the niru probably
Might be good to get some CC going in there somewhere if that doesn't work
Would also help if I could get another copy of saveas but noooooo
Someone can help me, i dont know what to do :s
@mighty summit What ch/stage is that?
@mild wing 20-54, not even a boss stage...
Flip shem and brutus, swap nemora in for arden, thats the formation I beat it with
run that for awhile and it should work eventually
Help please
Any suggestions? Niru smashes the ground with the AOE and Arden and Lyca both insta die :D
@pale kettle
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Lucius
@frank moss
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
@mild wing ira just rapes my dhemira :p
@mighty summit I'm on the same stage and having the same problem. Shemira is just too squishy
I mighta just kept running it for rng till I got lucky but I know that one worked
Yeah she cant survive more than 10sec
@ashen schooner i suppose i should tier this line up’s heroes too :/ they still get destroyed
@ashen schooner get run over all the same
@mild wing do you remember what level your Shemira was at the time?
It's definitely not a bad idea, you just have to try again for Nemora charming to work.
I would run everything a few dozen times at least before deciding it doesnt work lemme check the shemira lvl
Shemira 220
hmm, that's where mine is too. maybe mine just needs better gear
Beat it with
Shem
Brutus
Lyca
Nem
Tasi
oh man ok i'll try that
still worth a shot. i ran the last formation like 40 or 50 times and not once did Shemira last longer than 4 seconds
did your Nemora last long enough to get a charm off? mine is only 180/M, so she's consistently dying in a couple hits in this formation
anyway hopefully the difficulty curve smoothing the patch notes mention will help if nothing else lol. night all
Wow the final boss of The vault sucks
Correct me if im wrong, but it looks like i can take arden to L+ without using ascended heros?
@brittle maple You can, yes.
@ashen schooner soooo I probably should? First time doing this
Yes, he's quite useful into late game. @brittle maple
Cool, my first L+ :). Side note, does saveas go to L+ also or just L?
Also just picked up a Rowan, any good?
If i were you, i will go with warek.. he is quite useful in guild hunt...
@void dock wrizz or soren?
Both bruh.. this is what i need from warek
Both do the tanking actually... when thane become invisible, warek will take the hit...
Oki will do then
And please do care to think which hero you want to ascend to mythic+ first.. is quite hard to break myth+ wall to ascended heroes cause u need 4 copies from that hero...
@tawny jewel Vurk arrow snipe aim who? Tasi bait Silv right?
@fierce kayak tasi is bait for silv. She tanks a shot sometimes and arrow onlyca
@fierce kayak oh okay its 1-5 right?
Yup
Guys I’m running estrilda nemora tasi rosaline and belinda atm. Would you suggest me a better comp or something to focus on? 11-20 currently
@fierce kayak yup it works better. How do i know when to replace lyca?
@tawny jewel I usually start with lyca. If it can't work, and if enemy dont have lyca or Arden + lyca.. then I try remove lyca for more Cc
It's either like this, Silvina bait, Full Wilders or Full GB with silv/farael.. these are the mostly more common problematic one that need some strategy to beat for now
@marsh fern You can read the pinned message on #classic-questions, top right corner. Will let you know how to level your team and who to focus (Sav and arden). Overlevel carry, don't even level. And don't L heroes
Olkay thanks
For those needing in the future this is how I beat 19-16
Since it doesn’t look like anyone else has posted it in the past in here
@void dock
@pallid lake so you just need ascended shemira lvl200 to beat it... ok
What would be the best team here?
Switch Belinda to Arden to try to tangle saveas
@honest storm I recomment U to use Lyca in ur team. Her speed boost is must have for Saveas, cos he will use his passive heal much faster and he will deal more dmg per sec at start.
@sand kindle
But I gonna lose the fractions bonus?
To make short work of the hypogay guards
Hey guys. Need help. The boss just one shot my team
@honest storm So try the team:
Nemora (charm saveas)
Brutus
Lyca
Saveas
Arden or Numisu
Faction bonus is just optional
You can live with or without . . . It wont change anything
Im marching stages without any of those
Nem tasi arden butrus saveas
Uhm okay...
But I don't have any space up in resonating crystal... Should I switch someone out for nemora? Will cost me 100 dias
Nope
Just wait till you can buy one
Or
Cling on ardrn
But place arden middle
So ankhira wont web him
Resetting xtal slot cooldown is way mid game so its not that recommended
@split cove try to place shem in front of boss, also try to use twins, they ownzzz
Do that when you gonna take advantage of the lvl cap system
Like this?
Arden middle
So you can rng root ankhira and saveas by chance
Altho it will sure take a lot or reruns
guys need help.
wanna try if i can reach 6-40 today
i calculated my exp resources and i can make
either
1x lvl 100 3x lvl 81 1x lvl 61
vs
1x lvl 90 4x lvl81
I'm wondering which should i use as carry?
E saveas or E+ shemira (or perhaps Vedan E+)
6-28 to hopefully 6-40
I legitly see a carry for you was a shemira
So go for it
And yeah as soon you unlock the xtal
but my team dies before 2-3x ss. would making her 100 help?
Reset hendrik and rosa for morvus and ira for the lvl 120 cap
But do this when you have the crystal
i see
i got iritated when she cant cast 1st ulti fast haha. and my tanks tend to get bursted
@sand kindle still doesn't work. Guess i just need to wait until my team are strong enough lol.
@split cove oh soz) messed u up
Thanks guys, no chance
ok ill try overleveling my shemira and retry. i did saved 2 24hr exp crate for 600k xp
@split cove try:
Nemora
Shemira
Rowan
twins
Lucius
maybe it will go
Help needed: this enemy comp melts in under thirty seconds anything I can throw at it.
@umbral badger try
Arden
Shem
Nemora (charm ferael)
Brut
Lyca
@sand kindle Finally got 'em. Took a few tries for RNG but that definitely got me unstuck.
THANKS!
@umbral badger ow nice gz)
lol almost all survive. Arden sacrifice himself for win. so Sad story
This last fact is nearly miraculous. I was getting erased in under 30 seconds
its the powa of 3 wilders team. tones of CC + Shemiras dmg = gg
SOS
16-39
I'm struggeling here. Any advise? For most of the content i'm using the same line up brutus and khasos in front and saveas numisus and fawkes/shemira/kelthur in back lane
@lament sonnet
Nem
Brut
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Beat it with that with lower wilders than you have right now. Just keep retry until Shem takes over
Thank you! 🙏
anyone happen to have any suggestions for this level? shem can't really survive
Any idea? Stuck here and doesen't seems to get better in any way. Silvyne goes on arden>tasi and kills them with the next auto
hello any help on what units i should be concentrating into? which should be the ideal lieup?
what team can you reccomend for lightbearer faction tower 60?
4x brutus + khasos?
rent a thane strong
Any ideas guys?
Any ideas?
So close with this comp, but saveas 1v1 saveas can’t kill him in time 11-32
Edit:MADE IT XD most insane comp ever works
@torn lava what happens if you put away rowan, put tasi instead and put mehira in rowan place
Any ideas for 17-28? been stuck there for ages
Just wanted to share my unusual comp for 16-36 😅
Since meta or similar didn’t work for me 🤷
@violet aspen try to post full roster too next time buddy. Use meta team. Shem bru front, Wilders Back. Use nemora middle back charm fareal.
im guessing theres nothing fancy i can do with teamsetup for this one, right? Feels like its just a damagecheck.
Tower237
any ideas on how to beat this?
@tidal pelican lyca and Sav switch. If still can't then Arden nemora switch.
@tidal pelican your formation might work too tho. Just give it more tires.
I'm struggeling here. Any advise? For most of the content i'm using the same line up brutus and khasos in front and saveas numisus and fawkes/shemira/kelthur in back lane
Help pls.