lineup-help

[strong flint]

Same @muted blaze

[snow cobalt]

@muted blaze do your team has healer or shielf buff? If so, initially damage Brutus as little as possible so he does not get his ulti.
In case you dont know, the bottom front and back attack Brutus.

[mint pagoda]

Any suggestions?

[muted blaze]

I need Rosaline and Tasi to support my Lucius and Ulmus

[strong flint]

Try nemora @mint pagoda

[muted blaze]

5-36 so hard

[fierce kayak]

@lethal rivet ^ stick to meta. Don't drop them. Just play around their position

[unreal storm]

So how in the world do I beat this estrilda and why is she so much stronger than when I use her lol.

[lethal rivet]

feel like ive tried every position at this point >.> hopefully should have ascended shemira soon once i get L+ fodder though so hopefully that helps

[strong flint]

When i get elite+ belinda who to switch her with?

[fierce kayak]

@unreal storm either you flip entire formation upside down or try
Belinda
Hogan
Estrilda
Brutus
Sav

[muted blaze]

What can I change? @snow cobalt

[lethal rivet]

the wait for fodder is brutal ;w;

[limpid quail]

@marsh sentinel welcome! the faction bonus gives you a nice boost, but you can also complete stages without it. For your lineup you should get your carry (like saveas for example) overleveled, put two tanks in the front and add some supportive heroes. You also want to level only 5 heroes, the rest will get their levels from the resonating chrystals once unlocked.

[mint pagoda]

@muted blaze put gorvo in for khasos and the mage for the archer

[muted blaze]

Ok ty

[mint pagoda]

And swap gorvo and ulmus

[unreal storm]

@fierce kayak so I can beat the estrilda like that but the healer in the back is making the Hogan unkillable

[muted blaze]

Much better @mint pagoda but still defeated the Brutus immune

And need to lv up of course

Ty Shizzy

[mystic zenith]

How am I supposed to go through it? I can’t deal any dmg...

[ashen schooner]

@mystic zenith The strategy everyone uses is getting a 200+ Brutus and using 4 other level 1 Maulers so that they don't stay alive and charge Lucius ultimates. That way, they all die early and clump together near Brutus so that he can ultimate and kill them all.

[mystic zenith]

Hmm nice idea, thanks

[lament birch]

Any ideas to get better results?

[mystic zenith]

I guess I’ll try it next week when I can use friend’s Brutus, or if luck gives me a Brutus I’ll have a Mythic+ one, either way thanks @ashen schooner

Rosaline is great in wrizz @lament birch

[sand kindle]

@lament birch athalia ->rosa

[lucid shard]

Any tips to go through this stage?

[sand kindle]

@lucid shard u need x3+ hero lvl 240

[lucid shard]

Still can’t go through

[lament birch]

@mystic zenith @sand kindle athalia is my #1 dmg dealer against wrizz

[sand kindle]

@lament birch hmm try belinda or shemira as main. probably they will deal more dmg

[lucid shard]

Shemira+Rosalina combo is crazy good for wrizz

[sand kindle]

@lucid shard go pm ill help

[lament birch]

Maybe Raine out ? But everyone says she's unreplaceable

[sand kindle]

@lament birch my best combo is warek shemira raine estrilda rosaline.

[mystic zenith]

I don’t use Raine, test and see for urself what’s better to replace, but certainly rose has a space in there

[sand kindle]

Raine = +20% dmg vs wrizz

[golden spade]

Have a feeling I might be stuck here for a while... any help?

[mystic zenith]

My Raine is Elite only 😅

[ashen schooner]

@golden spade Exchange Nemora for Arden.
Try
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi

[golden spade]

Still gettin whooped. 😂 god being underleveled and impatient sucks..

[misty compass]

@ashen schooner

[ashen schooner]

@misty compass Personally your lineup looks good enough for it. Just reset for the cocoon relic.

[crude hinge]

can anyone help? this is 21-37

[formal sail]

Hello guys, struggling with sorting out a main team composition this is what I have, any tips?

[misty compass]

@ashen schooner is it a legendary?

[limpid quail]

@misty compass yes its legendary

[misty compass]

Okay

[void otter]

Is there something I’m missing for 19-20? This stage is ridiculously hard.

[sleek portal]

@void otter you cant beat it even with nemora charm and arden 3 lock? who do you use dura call on?

[void otter]

@sleek portal Dura’s Call is on Tasi. Since she seems useless here, should I give it to someone else?

Even if Ferael gets charmed, which happens 1 out of like 20 tries (usually it’s Niru), I still can’t even come close to winning right now.

[sleek portal]

dura call on shemira then if nemora doesnt charm faerel just reset dont waste time

[misty compass]

@ashen schooner would any of these work?

[void otter]

I was using Duras call on her and then people said to give her Duras blade and I forgot about it. Let me try that. Thanks.

[misty compass]

Can’t seem to find this cocoon relic

[sleek portal]

@misty compass the stun MIGHT work, basically what you're trying to do is to find ways to disable eironn's pulling, and safiya's shield if possible

[misty compass]

Guess I’ll give it a go

[sleek portal]

@misty compass dont give up its definitely doable, i did it with my level 90 heroes alt yesterday. find bringer/stone combo + some disable relic and you're good. good luck.

@formal sail you're too early in the game, there's no telling what kind of composition you should "force" it all depends on your summons. but basically you can choose to either go full lightbearer or play 1 carry 1 tank and 3 wilder trio, these 2 are the best option to go for in earl-mid game imo. for what you have currently i'll do like saveas overlevel carry + 1/2 tank and 2 support. maybe like saveas +belinda+brutus+arden+1

[pale kettle]

stuck on 8-12

[sleek portal]

@formal sail also read in #classic-questions 's pinned messages about Ascension guides, it's quite important for your progression.

[formal sail]

Alright thanks mate

[sleek portal]

@pale kettle best to show the hero pool + the enemy fight you're currently facing

[cinder crag]

Any ideas ?

[sand kindle]

@void otter if u cant beat it tag me ill send lineup

[sleek portal]

@cinder crag iirc, i did it with brutus 200 with dura blade, everything else is useless, by that i mean just throw any 4 in for the bonuses.

[void otter]

@sand kindle I came back just a second ago to say that lineup didn’t work. I would get Ferael charmed but Arden would wrap him so he didn’t use his skill on the enemies. I tried replacing Arden with Tasi and got him down to about half health but still rapidly wiped out.

[sand kindle]

@void otter try to switch Lyca and arden. That will be correct lineup. Also I recommend to switch shem and brut but thats up to u

[void otter]

@sand kindle yeah I switched their positions when I was trying to avoid Ferael getting wrapped and he still is. I will keep trying at it but I may just be too weak right now. Thanks. 🙂

[sleek portal]

@pale kettle i'd reset shemira, she's useless until 161, level belinda or saveas as your hard carry. i cant really advice further because im not familiar with playing rosalind and rowan early game, but i used belinda + (nemora + lyca + arden) backline + 1 tank to go chapter 12.

[cinder crag]

Nah doesn't work @sleek portal mauler tower just sucks :D

[sleek portal]

@cinder crag it does 100%, i used brutus+4(all E/E+) with dura blade all the way till 70, and then i got hard stuck, the only way is to either get khasos/brutus ascended to solo all the way till 85, otherwise you need to hire mercenary and hope for rng. if it doesnt work for you then you'll jsut have to keep retrying.

[sand kindle]

@void otter lol u are not. U can rush to 20-12 ez. just charm ferael, better twice

[pale kettle]

@sleek portal would belinda be in front line

[cinder crag]

İdk how I can't pass i mean my Brutus is fine item wise but he just can't burst down enemies due to cc and nemora :(

[void otter]

@sand kindle I have been spamming it trying to get the RNG in my favor, letting each battle run from start to finish just to make sure, I’ll keep at it for another 20 minutes or so.

[sleek portal]

@pale kettle i actually used belinda front line haha until 11-36, its hard to believe but belinda is quite tanky and with the help of wilder trio she's able to do her job as a nuker.

[winter arrow]

any advice?
ill afk till tomorrow to level some up
either
level hogan to 55
(shem 61 hogan 55 rosa 41 morv/ira 40)
or
revert morv/ira to lvl 1 then use it:
for hogan to 64
(shem 61 hogan 64 rosa 41 morv/ira 01)
or
for shemira to 71
(shem 71 hogan 41 rosa 41 morv/ira 01)

[sand kindle]

@void otter dont need to finish every battle, u just need battles with ferael get charmed

[pale kettle]

@sleek portal do i get rid of athalia for lyca or arden

[void otter]

@sand kindle I have gotten closest when Ferael got wrapped the first time and then charmed second round so he actually hit the enemies but the closest I’ve gotten to winning so far was nowhere near actually winning. These fights are lasting 16 seconds at the most.

[sleek portal]

@pale kettle if you're planning to use the wilder you have to use all for them to be effective, 3 wilders give u the 10%10% bonus, and lyca is in for haste buff, arden roots 2(level81), and nemora heals and charms opponent making it 6v4. thats the wonder of the wilder trio. you can choose to use belinda or saveas to be your damage dealer and look for a tank as frontline.

[crude hinge]

anyone got lineup for 21-37?

[sleek portal]

@pale kettle that being said, you have rosalind and rowan unlocked. im pretty sure a full lightbearer team would wreck early game as well. but im not too familiar with how the rowan rosalind combo works so you might wanna ask other people's opinion

[vestal island]

Any clue what I can do since can’t level further since i needa wait for L+

[sleek portal]

@vestal island try the wilder trio backline and saveas/belinda frontline alongside brutus. nemora either can stay bottom bakc or middle back to charm nemora or vurk, charming others are useless, arden at top bakc to lock 2 hero

[still oar]

@zehzzg#2205 do you have mehira?

[jagged plover]

19-4 suggestions?

[vital lagoon]

I am getting destroyed even though my levels are similar. I think I should be doing better but not sure what to change.

[lean ingot]

Ideas?

[ashen schooner]

@jagged plover Swap Brutus and Shemira, put Nemora where Lyca is then swap where Lyca is bottom back and Nemora is in the middle back

[still oar]

@jagged plover
Lyca
Brutus/Shem
Arden/tasi
Shem/brutus
Nemora
Charm estrilda

[lean ingot]

Can someone halp me ^^^

ok wow you help the other dude and forget about me k

[ashen schooner]

@lean ingot Post your heroes. Do you have Athalia or Tasi? Also, cocoon relic is the easiest way to pass.

[lean ingot]

yes I have a athalia

[grizzled yew]

@lean ingot put shemira in front of brutus

[ashen schooner]

Swap Nara for Athalia and test, see what it does. Restart if you don't pass and keep resetting until you get the relic that cocoons heroes at start to avoid Eironn pull and Safiya buff zone. @lean ingot

[vestal island]

@sleek portal ig im gonna be stuck quite long nemora is too annoying and everything else kinda dies fairly quickly

[lean ingot]

Nope and here are my hero’s

I’m finna restart now

[ashen schooner]

I'd also say you could try changing Thane out for that rented Khasos if need be.

[pale kettle]

@lean ingot use like i say
1-khasos 2-lucius 3-saveas 4-belinda 5-athalia

@lean ingot before 160-180 shemira ise useless after 160-180 shemira has damage spike

[rapid token]

Need help pls, cant progress anymore. Tyvm. Need a pve setup or advice

[misty compass]

Finally beat the blimp thing thank you for all your help used the death relic to win, when is the next blimp event?

[ashen schooner]

Next voyage should be soon after next update.

[misty compass]

Okay thanks

[pale kettle]

Can anyone help?

[ashen schooner]

@pale kettle Move Brutus where Lyca is. Do you have a Nemora?

[pale kettle]

Yes but she dies too quickly

[ashen schooner]

Try out
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden

[pale kettle]

I did but my team dies too quickly

[lean ingot]

@pale kettle legit tryna find a cocoon relic and I been trying over 25 times

[pale kettle]

@rapid token use brutus and lucius as frontline , use saveas for dmg and backline, change 4th and 5th character when you get win and be careful to union buff take union buff whatever it happens 😉😉

[obsidian bridge]

20-60 any advice? Going for Nemora charming Arden which seems to work ok but my top just get annihilated.

[ashen schooner]

It's a legendary relic if that helps @lean ingot

[lean ingot]

I know it is ;-; it doesn’t help

[ashen schooner]

@pale kettle If Nemora doesn't die immediately, keep resetting until she charms that Ira. That bleed will murder your Shemira.

[pale kettle]

I’ve defeated this stage earlier today but my game crashed and it didn’t count

[solemn torrent]

Is this a good lineup

I’ve been playing for 3 days

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle use brutus and shemira as frontline, use nemora tasi lyca as backline

[ashen schooner]

@pale kettle If you defeated it with your original lineup, don't change it. Just keep replaying the battle until you win again. It's all RNG so if you beat it before you can definitely beat it again.

[pale kettle]

@solemn torrent send screenshot your all heroes, it isnt good because you dont have union buff

@ashen schooner okay

Although i did attempt for 4 hours now and I still haven’t found the rng :/

[rapid token]

@pale kettle👌

[solemn torrent]

@pale kettle

[stable mason]

Who would be a good addition to this formation? Even with heroes I don't have, so I know what to look for

Estrilda dies, a lot

[pale kettle]

@solemn torrent use antandra and hogan as frontline and use lyca numisu and saveas as backline for damage

Nemore frontline Tasi back line @stable mason

@solemn torrent before 160 saveas is best dps hero use saveas before 160, after 160 change saveas with shemira

@stable mason lucius and estrilda frontline , nemora saveas belinda backline

[stable mason]

I really like the synergy of Lucius, Rosaline, and Nemora. Spam shield and heal while Belinda and whoever mercs

[pale kettle]

@stable mason but saveas is best dps hero before 160 i think you must use saveas for dmg

[vital lagoon]

I am trying a Mauler Wilder setup but it is getting killed before Nemora heals anyone. Any suggestions on a good lineup?

[ashen schooner]

@vital lagoon You need a second tank. That Lucius would work fine, but you won't have the faction bonus if that's what you're wanting.

[still oar]

@misty compass. On test

[vital lagoon]

@ashen schooner I'm willing to reset heroes and go with something else. Open to anything.

[ashen schooner]

Your top 5 should work fine. Little lacking in damage but Saveas is a good carry if utilized in the right manner.

[cinder crag]

Do you know what the rewards are ? For the new voyage

[still oar]

Still dk. It's only 27th

[carmine rose]

right now my team comp is nemora>tasi>saveas>brutus>lyca so should i exchange shemira with the lost sigil event and get it to Legendary and exchange role with saveas or should i just continue with this lineup? thnks.

[dim raven]

@stable mason Ive personally never used Saveas in my line-up and have done fine so I suppose go with your gut.

[still oar]

@carmine rose shemira is lab hero.
Pick someone who is not store heroes such as lyca, Baden, Rosaline

[carmine rose]

so i am fine to stick with this comp and wait for shemira?

[pale kettle]

Do i de-level shemira for a bit to get my team up to lvl 200 or not?

[still oar]

Yes. @carmine rose saveas or Bel can be your dpses

@pale kettle no. Keep her higher. It'll be easier if shemira is higher than crystal

[pale kettle]

Okay

[sleek portal]

anyone has screenshot for 21-37?

[lament sonnet]

Help with 15-38 pls

[still oar]

@sleek portal

[crude hinge]

@still oar i don’t

[still oar]

@lament sonnet
Lyca/arden'
Shem
Nemora
Brutus/tank
Arden/lyca
Nemora charms ferael. Restart if she did not.
Put Arden or tasi in the place that either of them can relatively safe to cc

[dim raven]

I'm about to hit lvl160, any advice for line-up updates?

[urban frost]

I'm stuck atm, what team do you guys recommened? I'm kinda new

[crude hinge]

21-37 need line up, someone save me lol

[still oar]

Think you need to charm kaz so your Shem could survive while at the sametime disable ira.
How about nemora tasi fawkes as backline @crude hinge

Or disable kaz and charm IRA to bleed the 2nd ira

[final rock]

21-60 need help pls

[still oar]

Sorry mang i used mehira+ezzizh

[sand kindle]

@final rock it is good formation. U need some rng luck or shemira 240

[frigid dagger]

@final rock top down shemira brutus top down nemora lyca arden

[crude hinge]

@still oar ok ill try it out

[pale kettle]

is a full lightbringer team good to make

[final rock]

@sand kindle @frigid dagger ty guys, i'll to try the both

[dark tundra]

Estrilda instead of Brut on 21-60

[crude hinge]

@still oar yea not working lol

guess ill just have to wait

[frigid dagger]

@crude hinge who tasi banish?

[crude hinge]

@frigid dagger their tasi banishes my shem so the kaz kills nemora

[frigid dagger]

@crude hinge i mean ur tasi

[crude hinge]

no one cause fawkes goes for same guy (ira)

[sand kindle]

@crude hinge did u try 1-5: lyca brut tasi nem shem (or arden instead tasi)?

[crude hinge]

@sand kindle let me try this, but dont have arden cause i sacrificed him to make nemora ascended

[sand kindle]

It’s ok to use even blue one

[crude hinge]

dont even have blue one lmfao

[crude herald]

Wondering if I should revert Lucious and use all the goods on lvling up Brutus and the rest of the Shemira, Tasi, Nemora and Lyca. Thoughts?

[sand kindle]

@crude hinge lmao

[crude hinge]

doesnt work, tasi dies instantly

[sand kindle]

Wtf.. who killed her?

She should fly over shem

[crude hinge]

my tasi died instantly, kaz kills her

[lament sonnet]

@still oar thank you!

[sand kindle]

@crude herald man, reset lyca nem or tasi (any one of them) and add to resonating crystall. And make ur brut 180

[worthy nimbus]

Stuck on 16-40 their haste definitely keeps melting me

[mild wing]

@worthy nimbus Nemora wasted in middle, move her bottom to charm arden

[crude herald]

@sand kindle why them instead of Lucius if I won’t be using him in my primary build?

[sand kindle]

@crude herald cos u lvl up 5 strongest heroes (by tier) and rest leveling up through the resonating crystal

[worthy nimbus]

Their haste allows Arden to immediately tie up shemira then nemora charms her so essentially I cant use my best hero

[still oar]

My condolences

[pale kettle]

Getting mowed down. Stuck on 11-32 and tower 144 (Lucius, Nara,Belinda, Shemira, Mehira) also I am unsure if I should Ascend anyone or wait.

[sleek portal]

@crude hinge @still oar dude the mehira in the meta lineup fucking WORKS IN 21-37 LMAO, cleared it within 20 tries

[worldly thorn]

Is there any way for me to beat the secrets of the forest full wilders challenge? I can't figure out how to do it

[ashen schooner]

@worldly thorn You don't need to start off right away with all Wilder comp, just as long as you kill the last hero with an all Wilder comp.

[worldly thorn]

yeah but how do I do that, I don't think I can beat them halfway with a weaker party

and I'd need my full strength party to beat the rest 🤔

[ashen schooner]

Doesn't necessarily have to be your strongest heroes, I think when I did it I just kept using my weaker but Crystal'd heroes until I got them low enough-ish to use my all Wilders.

[crude herald]

so on resonating crystal, it only makes sense to have 5 heroes outside of it correct? Any rationale about which ones should be outside of it?

[winter drum]

Any lead?

[golden stone]

nice

[mellow hound]

Any advice? I've tried not stop the last 4 hours

I can't kill niru for my life

[pastel maple]

Who should I get?

[mellow hound]

You'll get a better answer in #classic-questions @pastel maple

[pastel maple]

Thanks

[sullen surge]

Any help?

[unkempt pier]

@sullen surge switch saveas to shems position and put tasi in saveas position

[wraith barn]

Any ideas i tired tons of formations and no luck made tasi def lowest so silvana attacks her

[unkempt pier]

@wraith barn honestly what i do when i fight a silvina i usually just get rid of every mage and let shem take on silvina in a 1v1

[crude hinge]

@sleek portal fuck man dont have him

[lean ingot]

Finally

[pale kettle]

@sullen surge I would also recommend resetting Lucius putting him in the crystal, and leveling either Silvana or Raine since they are epic plus and can go above 100 lvl max

[sullen surge]

Good idea @pale kettle

[signal current]

hard stuck at 11-40,what can I do? so far best luck I've had was fawkes, Belinda, nemora, rosaline and hendrick

[mellow hound]

Get that saveas to 160

[signal current]

i mean cheers for wasting me 40 diamonds but all that happened is i'm now getting much worse results

[pastel maple]

Help please.

[indigo jolt]

@mellow hound If Tasi banishes Ferael, drop her for NEmora, but Nemora opposite Fereal. Retry till you get Charm on him.

@thorn tapir Try, Nemora should charm Nemora to charm Kaz.
Nemora
Belinda
Tasi
Brutus/Lyca
Arden

@wraith barn

[lethal rivet]

any suggestions?

[mighty summit]

Hey, i m stuck, i need advice pls

[indigo jolt]

@lethal rivet May also be worth trying with Shem/Tasi switched.
Shem
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi

[pastel maple]

Help please.

[mellow hound]

After 100 retries of making sure arden didnt tangle the charmed fareal i got it @indigo jolt

[frigid veldt]

Stuck here. Any advice?

[lethal rivet]

@indigo jolt swapped shem and tasi and cleared thanks!

[thorn silo]

Can someone help me with lineup...mb i must change heroes?

[dusky sage]

Im stuck any tips

[mighty summit]

Pls help i dont know what to do :s

[pale kettle]

Any Tips?

[mellow hound]

What about this one?

[indigo jolt]

@mighty summit Maybe try
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca/Shem
Shem/Lyca

@mellow hound Which Khasos is banished?

[pale kettle]

@mellow hound
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

[plucky flint]

@mellow hound I think I beat that one with a 4 wilder setup.

[mellow hound]

All 3 wilders die in 1 hit @pale kettle
Top khrasos @indigo jolt
@plucky flint so no brutus?
Nvm i just beat it randomly wtf

Gotta love good ol RNG 😒

[indigo jolt]

@mellow hound
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi

[high lantern]

Any advice for 19-38

[daring wolf]

Stuck at 12-40 plz help

[plucky flint]

@high lantern lyca shem nem arden tasi 1-5

[high lantern]

So lyca shem front rest back thanks

[plucky flint]

Yeah

[high lantern]

Worked on attempt five just swapped placements around thanks

Do I just take out Brutus for these wilder stages

[plucky flint]

@high lantern generally any full wilder stage I always default to going 4 wilder myself. Let rng do its thing

[high lantern]

Gotcha

[weak dawn]

Any suggestions?

[indigo jolt]

@weak dawn Fereal or Shem banished?

[weak dawn]

What do you mean sorry

[indigo jolt]

Tasi banishes a hero, which one.

[weak dawn]

Shem

[indigo jolt]

Tasi/Lyca
Brutus
Nem
Shem
Lyca/Tasi

[weak dawn]

Ill try both

[indigo jolt]

You need charm on ferael. also do you have arden or not?

[pulsar breach]

What do you think, should I go for Graveborn or Wilders?

[glass moat]

I know im underleveled and my ascension levels arent great, but any way i could beat this

[pulsar breach]

Put Shemira on the place of Brutus and put Tasi instead of arden.

[glass moat]

silvina one shot ults .-.

i would say ill just afk for level up but thats the highest my shem can go and still gets 1 shot idk

[dusky sage]

Any tips

[bleak robin]

mmmmm why is raine front line?

[worldly thorn]

Anything I can do to win this one? I've been stuck here for a while now and can't really get further

[bleak robin]

@worldly thorn find a faction buff that works best. I assume that Saveas is your highest DPS (i could be wrong) so you may be required to swap either your LB units or your Wilder units to match something. I don't think Estrilda should be front line with her level though. I guess you're in Chapter 9?

[worldly thorn]

it's 9-36, and both Saveas and Eironn are my highest DPS by far, the rest just gets nuked to shit instantly except my lucius

[bleak robin]

Have you tried a wilder or mauler tank to replace Estrilda? I understand that late Chapter 9 sucks very hard, I've been there. Will make the best assumption that its Vedan and/or Niru giving you trouble.

On the other hand: are you capable of using mercenaries by chance?

[worldly thorn]

I can record a vid of my party trying to beat this

1 second though because phone discord is trash

Easily the best run I've had so far, got lucky or something

@bleak robin dunno, I don't really have any strong wilders heroes besides Eironn and tasi. Especially no strong tank

[untold nacelle]

Any ideas?

[ashen schooner]

@untold nacelle Try
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Tasi
Nemora

[wary sedge]

Usual comp is Hogan, Brutus, Tasi, Rosaline, Belinda. Have enough food to either take Nemora to L or Arden to L+ to replace Tasi. Thoughts? (just keeping Tasi in that fifth slot is also valid)

[weak dawn]

@indigo jolt thanks as always buddy

[mild wing]

@wary sedge I would not to nemora L, I would take arden L+, read the pinned post, your gonna get yourself stuck on legendaries and unable to make L+

Itsw a bad bad spot to be in when you spread to thin and get tons of Ls you cant ascend further

[wary sedge]

Yeah, that makes sense, and is where I'm stuck at with Brutus/Tasi anyways (waiting for pulls to get an E+ to get them to L+) and getting the whole team over the 141 wall

[solemn torrent]

Lineup?

What’s a good one

[ashen schooner]

@solemn torrent I would personally reset Numisu and change to another Tank. Maybe that Hendrik.

[pale kettle]

^

Any tips?

[brisk nest]

yes

[pale kettle]

bella instead of ankhira kelthur instead of ira

[bleak robin]

@worldly thorn do you have a third LB unit perhaps? The GB on AI will year through you, almost no matter what unless you skill up your heroes and get them better gear (even me)

[brisk nest]

use tasi, dat hoe good

[pale kettle]

@solemn torrent you can go full wilders. Ira nemora arden ans lyca ogi in front. Or mix 3 2 with lB

[wary sedge]

A follow-up question; I could get Estrilla to M with legendary tier fodder that I have plus feeding L+ Hogan; worthwhile? or not until she can get further than just Mythic? (currently just beat 12-2)

[pale kettle]

yeah worthit

[brisk nest]

yea use hogan hes a hoe to abuse

[pale kettle]

free fodder all day long from hogan

[worldly thorn]

I got these and that's it rn @bleak robin

[pale kettle]

@wary sedge its on to use hogan but imo better for a carry. Estrilda will not carry ur team

[wary sedge]

I've just held off on making the change because Estrilla just feels way squishier than Hogan, but I am admittedly comparing E+ Estrilla to L+ Hogan

[pale kettle]

estrilda isn’t for tanking she’s for damage and her buffs

@wary sedge better go dor belinda or thane

[worldly thorn]

damage kinda shit considering she just gets nuked harder than japan in ww2 instantly in 9-38

[pale kettle]

lol

[blazing spindle]

Hardstuck, any help?

[pale kettle]

What makes you progress is damage and CC. Not tankiness. Estrilda is meh

for anyone that says Kelthur sucks I can and will prove you wrong btw

My lineup is Safiya, Hogan +, Khasos, Ankhira + and Numisu, any tips?

I gave you mine @pale kettle

@blazing spindle should be easy to finish chapter20 with such leveled team. Use shemira/lyca brutus in front ans either tasi arden nemora back

Did you? I didn’t see it, I’m sorry @pale kettle

I don’t know if they’re positioned right tbh

show your positioning

[blazing spindle]

i'll give it a try, this stage just murders me ive been stuck for days @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Oh, I saw that, but, isn’t better that they’re from the same faction?

@blazing spindle charm ferael and use arden

technically yes but that should work unless you can replace hogan with a mauler for the boost to

[blazing spindle]

I dont have a arden @pale kettle and how can I control nemora charm? is it always across?

[pale kettle]

Use ferael instead of arden

You cant control. She charms one of the three ennemies in front of her. Retry till she charms the right one

to give you an idea of the team I use @pale kettle

[blazing spindle]

This team got it, thanks @pale kettle for the advice

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle

you really should be using your top 5

Yeah, I was just stuck in that faction shit, that’s why I wasn’t using the top 5.

replace ira with Kelthur though like I said it’ll help alot

[raw trail]

Help please? Ive been trying different combinations but nothing is working

[bleak robin]

@worldly thorn using Fawkes or Belinda hasn't helped? I know Belinda sucks against GB that travel (Sedan)

[worldly thorn]

Haven't used Fawkes yet because he's only an E

And Belinda gets nuked instantly no matter where I put her

[blazing spindle]

@worldly thorn try Shemira/Hendrik frontline, Saveas,Belinda,Arden backline

[upper barn]

hello any suggestions are greatly appreciated i usually don’t go here bc the answer is usually to out level the opponents but how do I counter arden? the cc i have is usually barely enough to keep him contained until my shemira ults

[paper lion]

Hey,
Any help for this first one?

[worldly thorn]

@blazing spindle I don't have any of those hereoes even at E+ lol except for saveas and Belinda. No shemira otherwise I'd already be using her

[upper barn]

@paper lion try switching brutus with tasi and sub in shemira DAH QUEEN

[blazing spindle]

@worldly thorn oh whoops looked at someone else's screenshot

[paper lion]

@upper barn Already tried that, runs better but still no success

[worldly thorn]

Stuck at 9-38 now, 9/10 attempts I don't even kill a single enemy

[upper barn]

usually i beat by cc’ing saveas which is btw still way too op in earlier levels. maybe try countering saveas w saveas and using (I think u have her) athalia to cc estrilda OR using shemira to tank estrilda to get her ult early and packing brutus in front of saveas in time for your saveas to do damage to him

[paper lion]

Thank you, I'll try a little bit 🙂

[bleak robin]

@upper barn you don't have a hero that can single target a unit? (Nara or Athalia, maybe even Silvina)

[upper barn]

i have nara legendary, athalia legendary+ and silvina elite+ but sadly none of them last long enough against a boosted arden. Plus it doesn’t help that their shemira is OP as well ))):< but ty for the suggestion

YOOO LOKI YOU ACTUAL GOD. I just switched athalia with nara so Nara hops on shemira and got it!!! Tysm. This is ch 18-40 if anyone else is having trouble!!

[manic steeple]

Any ideas?

[west iron]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NAThvHpJHM4 @manic steeple

[abstract shuttle]

Stuck on 19-20 for a week now any advice?

[ember bane]

@novel adder at 20-60 This team works well but can't defeat Shemira as time runs out so what the solution? Need rankup my Shemira ?

[novel adder]

just rng... @ember bane gear up.. power up will help.. shem 220 is sufficient.

[river condor]

Who should I be prioritising? Anyone in missing from leveling up?

[ashen schooner]

@river condor Your current 5 is okay, you could consider removing a tank (maybe Thoran) and exchange for Elijah & Leilah or Arden.

[median shell]

Can I beat this somehow?

[sudden sparrow]

Use Nara or Athalia to delay Arden's roots @median shell

Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Nara/Athalia @median shell

[river condor]

Should I be prioritising Brutus or Shemira or leveling then both equally?

[high oyster]

For now I would say only level then up equally

[pale kettle]

My current lineup is the top row of 5 heroes, should any be replaced? And with what? (Please @ me if u reply)

[dusky sage]

Any tips im stuck

[lament wigeon]

Any advice for beating possessed guy in lab

[frank egret]

Arden tasi or shem as 5th?

[last granite]

@frank egret imo tasi

[pale kettle]

My current lineup is the top row of 5 heroes, should any be replaced? And with what? (Please @ me if u reply)

[frank egret]

Ty

@pale kettle you’ll find you get more bang for your buck by overleveling the most ascended units. Tasi is good but I would like to see your belinda be highest level unit and your hogan at 60 (so change vurk to 40 and belinda to 70)

I agree with using the resonating crystal for silvina or vedan (they helped me a lot early on and still do in the 120s)

[pale kettle]

Ok so what should my lineup be, ideally then? (Thnx for the help)

@frank egret

[abstract shuttle]

Stuck on 19-20 any advice would be appreciated

[bleak robin]

@upper barn aaaa! as i suspected! i've been using Nara to deal with pesky DPS and Arden vines etc.

[signal pumice]

I really want to get mythic Shemira, but I know I shouldn't. Thoughts?

[plucky flint]

Floor 230. Not sure what my strategy should be here.

@signal pumice ascension questions go in the #classic-questions channel. Most people would say don’t do it. Shem doesn’t become really powerful till after 161, so you should consider if there’s any point in rushing her now.

[last granite]

@signal pumice #classic-questions but no you shouldn't. Isabella is a good hero late game. Shemira can carry but if you're on late game she is only dps and you'll need other heroes

[signal pumice]

Yeah that makes sense. Also sorry I didn't know this should go in #classic-questions

[high oyster]

Ok so I’m stuck here and need some advice

[last granite]

@high oyster overlevel saveas instead of lucius (dps first and then tank)

I'd use other heroes such as belinda, mirael, ira, silvina as dps if you have them. Vurk and the twins aren't really helpful in campaign so far I know

[fierce kayak]

@abstract shuttle ^

[sweet marsh]

Any advise on whom I should be leveling to help progress PVE and tower. This is general team I’ve been using.

[median nexus]

@sweet marsh lvl 141 is where shem really kicks off. Try leveling her if you can

[shrewd laurel]

Basically a new player. Not really sure what I should be aiming for here as I've basically gotten stuck at 5-12. Mostly all blue gear.

[elfin moth]

Any tips for getting past 11-40 with what I got?

[sweet marsh]

@median nexus one more Lab run and I should be able too. Anyone else I should replace or focus?

[median nexus]

@elfin moth maxing out seveas isn’t bad, he’s worthwhile till he maxes. 161 shemira can easily tank in front of brutus or hendrik and using tasi will help greatly with crowd control

[elfin moth]

As in, having shem replace brutus or hendrik, or just having her swap one of them and then just run it?

[median nexus]

@sweet marsh Grezhul starts to fall off later game. Lyca or Rowan are possible replacements for him

@elfin moth Shem can go either side, whichever needs more help

@shrewd laurel continue building shem and lucius, they will help you greatly. Seveas is king of early game, max him out and overlevel him as much as you can. don’t bother with skreg or warek. Kaz gets better, but she’s only good late game

@elfin moth if you can accommodate him, nemora’s overshield will help you survive big hits

[elfin moth]

That's if she ever gets an ult off before dying

[shrewd laurel]

Would it be better to replace kaz with someone else for now then?

Like estrilda or rowen and go for the 2/3 bonus? Or is that pointless?

[median nexus]

@shrewd laurel replace her with rosaline, even if it means having only one frontliner. The bonus is good, but Estrilda falls off fast
@elfin moth if you put nemora behind shemira and next to rowan in the backline, she should be safe enough. Her charm + shemira will hold off the enemies pretty well.

@elfin moth if you’re worried about bonus you could try running a tasi shemira frontline (crazy but works) and a rosaline/hendrik, rowan, belinda backline

[shrewd laurel]

@median nexus Thanks. Is the auto ascend thing okay to use for all my 3x rares?

[median nexus]

@shrewd laurel Yes, the rares always must be ascended like that. After rare+ though you want to pay attention to who you ascend

[golden stone]

only time you wouldn't want to combine three rares is if you're really strapped for heroes to complete bounties, but that's an incredibly unlikely scenario

[sleek portal]

anyone has screenshot for 21-40? thanks.

[median nexus]

Anyone have advice for me here? Everybody keeps getting pwned by the brutus and seveas

[golden stone]

do you have an arden you could throw in there? or maybe try and get lucky with a Nemora charm

[last granite]

@median nexus does lucius melt easily? If yes might wanna use brutus on frontline and maybe put lucius on the backline instead

[golden stone]

yeah that could be good for those extra few seconds

[median nexus]

No arden, I had to sacrifice him for the greater good. Nemora might do the trick, let me try it.
@last granite even that melts. Once enemy brutus ults, everything in his radius is burned to the ground

[golden stone]

I'd say try Nemora until you can get hold of a serviceable Arden. His CC will be invaluable especially later on, I'm still regularly using him in stage 20

[median nexus]

Perhaps. Even this nemora brutus thing doesn’t live much longer

@golden stone The enemy Numisu keeps sniping and insta-gibbing my nemora

[golden stone]

hmm. no matter where you put her?

[median nexus]

When i place her anywhere else she charms the wrong people. Even after lucius ults we melt and she doesn’t get her ult off

[golden stone]

dang. honestly i'm not sure exactly how her charm is targeted - i'm pretty sure she's most likely to target whoever she's across from but i know that doesn't always happen

[median nexus]

She always charms Khasos if not Brutus

[golden stone]

hmmm. who are you trying to get her to target?

[devout berry]

Stuck on 16-36

[median nexus]

I want her to target brutus or seveas, but doesn’t on the opposite side, but when I put her on the right side, numisu’s totems distract her and she doesn’t charm him

[golden stone]

hmm. i'm assuming she dies too fast if you put her top lane?

[median nexus]

Yep, brutus ults within first 10 sec of battle and erases her, lucius, brutus. By then shem dies too and tasi is last survivor

[fallow mortar]

Where to go from here

^

[median nexus]

What I’m trying to run. Vurk ults and kills shemira, so she doesn’t get to ult

@fallow mortar start working on your shem, she’s essential. Also work on tasi to 141. Aside from that get your formation to 121 minimum

Work on your brutus if possible, he’s clutch later on as well

[devout berry]

@median nexus I believe I beat this level recently, and I had the same units, but lower levels all around.

Nemora
-Brutus
Lyca
-Shem
Tasi

I had my Shem maxed at 180 though so maybe try that out? For Arden you can even use an elite one in the crystal, as long as he’s lvl 141

[median nexus]

Okay, I can make that work. Perhaps now is the time to sink into overleveling shemira. I was hesitant before, but it seems like the way to go. Although I might have to find an alt for lyca. She already does nothing and will do less after stealing her levels

[devout berry]

Mhmm. My units are right up above if you want an idea of what I worked with.

[median nexus]

@devout berry where did you put arden in your formation? Or did you not use him?

[devout berry]

Arden would go where Nemora would be. He would just need to survive long enough to root 3. With Lyca haste it made it possible. Took many retries but eventually it comes down to Shem vs Brutus and just hope she drain tanks him long enough.

[median nexus]

I see, sounds possible. Lyca is meant to die L, I gather, just there to provide haste. I’m guessing this is a solo shem mission, so lucius is unnecessary and nemora is there to charm

[devout berry]

Mhmm, that’s how I was playing it at least. Numisu totems are random too so can’t do much about them. Can even Tasi up top and Arden bottom. In the end, it comes down to luck, but you should be able to beat it 👍🏽

[median nexus]

@devout berry after maxing shemira should I spread the levels or focus on leveling tasi?

Or should I level up someone else entirely?

Or, or, hear me out here, I can throw nara under the bus and boost shemira to lvl 181

[devout berry]

Hmm. Personally, I’m only using Shem/Tasi/Arden/Nemora/Brutus/Lyca right now, so I’m only focused on leveling them up.

I got my Tasi as high as I could, 160, because her ult with Shem wins games easy. So maybe her after? As long as Arden is 141 if you decide to use him.

I don’t recommend that lol. Won’t be able to get Shem to 181 unless you have 5 160’s

[median nexus]

Ah, everyone must be 161 to get to 181?

[golden stone]

Everyone has to be 160 to get to 181

[median nexus]

Huh. Okay

[upper vale]

Hate hate asking noob questions but I'm at my first tough decision. Use my guaranteed epic card on LB or Maulers?

[median nexus]

LB, if you get rowan/fawkes/lucius you will be a happy man
Hendrik can carry early on as well

[upper vale]

Yeah I really want that Rowan

[golden stone]

@median nexus please disregard what i've just typed, i can't numbers . And yeah @upper vale I'd go LB

[upper vale]

He carried me from 6-36 to 7-30 when I got him

[median nexus]

Rowan is essential from now till forever, keep him and nourish him

[upper vale]

Thanks, that's what I was leaning towards

Well it was big boy

[golden stone]

him l a r g e

[upper vale]

He couldnt see how big his plates of food were with one eye

[median nexus]

THE ABSOLUTE UNIT

[golden stone]

in awe of the size of this lad

[median nexus]

XD. Boutta defend the schist out of some backlines and smack some thots with a big ass shield

[high oyster]

Anything I could do or should I just afk

[upper vale]

The twins dont help?? @high oyster

[golden stone]

yeah that haste buff is spicy

[fresh notch]

Hey guys just wondering if I should afk or if I’m using the wrong lineup for 15-40

[high oyster]

@upper vale switch hogan for the twins it helped a little bit still only mange to kill 1 or 2enemies if I’m lucky

[devout berry]

@fresh notch maybe swap Arden for Tasi? And I’d personally put more levels into the Wilders. Brutus is going to die to Niru/Shem regardless and Niru will just heal back up. Might as well have Tasi/Nemora live a bit longer.

Your main hope is to have Nemora charm Ferael and you’ll win. I was stuck there for about a day just praying for that lol

[fierce kayak]

@fresh notch nope. Correct line-up. Keep trying for RNG. If charm on fareal fails then just retry.

Tasi can't be in here. She will banish fareal and nemora can't charm him.

[devout berry]

You right. Thought she was banishing Shem. Good luck 👍🏽 you have the right units for it

[fresh notch]

Ok thanks guys I’ll just spread more levels into the wilders and try for rng

[fierce kayak]

This stage is a nightmare to me. So till today I remembered tasi banish fareal. And I took like 100x tries for me to find it out... 😂

Its the day I learn whenever face fareal, nemora mirror him.

[half gale]

Hello, i'm stuck at the stage 9-20. What should i do ?

[fresh notch]

Lol yeah I’ve been here for a bit trying to figure it out

[high oyster]

Any advice or do I just afk for this

[warm ocean]

21-10 sucks lol

[marble harbor]

Need help with 14-28

[serene dragon]

Привет всем

[foggy crane]

Next LB ascension?

[steep cape]

@marble harbor post pic of all your hero’s

[winter arrow]

any advice? dont know how to live against brutus

my best so far. but brutus still kills my shems 1 shot

[marble harbor]

@steep cape

[steep cape]

@marble harbor does your arsenide before he can vine?

[marble harbor]

@steep cape nope, he vines, and Tasi typically gets ult off. Lyca dies immediately though

[steep cape]

@marble harbor how close are you to winning?

[marble harbor]

@steep cape everyone is 10-15% health. Best attempt Brutus was last but immunity outlasted Shemira

[thorn silo]

Can domeone help me with lineup, mb i must change aome heroes? Thanks

[visual quiver]

What would be the best lineup for wrizz and soren? I currently use ezizh + sav frontline, tasi + lyca + nemora backline for almost everything

[pale kettle]

any help in making a lineup?

1

[worthy nimbus]

16-40 greatly need help

[hasty dawn]

any suggestions? :)

[mighty summit]

Help pls, stuck since few days

[fallow totem]

Stuck at 11-36 any advice please ?

[vestal island]

Am I too underlvled?

[pale kettle]

@vestal island no but you lack dammage/CC try to include arden or nemora in you lineup

[vestal island]

Tried triple wilder with brutus and sav/belinda didnt work

[timid quail]

None of them have any CC lol

[unreal storm]

I'm super lost as to how to beat this and could really use some help

[vestal island]

@timid quail how abt u suggest sth then

[timid quail]

Try switching Nara for Shemira then. While she might not have any cc that silence should help shutdown the enemy Nemora/Isabella.

[pale kettle]

Runnung two hard tank without any dmg or cc is not necessary at this early stage and you left with 3 heroes to do all the damage cc

[vestal island]

tried running shemira and any cc that I have, cant do much since I can't break thru the frontline to reach nemora or cc nemora

[vestal island]

tried nara for 9-16 and it worked so thats why I have nara

[thorn tapir]

Last stage until star and another shemira!!!!!

[sleek portal]

@vestal island wilder trio definitely works, and you're equally leveled as your enemy. which doesnt happen 99% of the time....

use nemora charm vurk and arden to double root nemora+1 or something, then get a hard carry dps and a tank in and you're good

@thorn tapir nemora middle back charm faerel, tasi useless this level you need arden level141 for triple root.

[vestal island]

okay will try again, did about 20 runs of triple wilders plus lucius with savs and belinda maybe i shld try shem

[thorn tapir]

Let me see if i have arden

[sleek portal]

@vestal island shemira is probably useless at your level, use an overleveled saveas ot brutus+belinda or something i dont know.

[ionic jackal]

@vestal island Brutus debuff is good for saveas and lyca, try to use him

[unreal storm]

No one helped me earlier when I asked so I'm asking again for any help please this level is a pain in the neck

[pale kettle]

the lucent vault

[sleek portal]

@unreal storm hogan is not a good tank, find some good tank and try to get 3-1-1 or 3-2 bonus health/atk%, early game i'd advice leveling saveas to 101, then level your tanks to 100, then remaining to 100, then start overleveling saveas from 101->120->140 and so on. if you have extra coins in lab try to get shemira and nemora, nemora helps early game.

[mental fern]

Im stuck on 20-33 any tipe? :)

[thorn tapir]

@sleek portal made this team and got it

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle you don't have to fight that camp. Just press the buttons that are where the relics were and it will disappear

[sleek portal]

@thorn tapir nice, im not too familiar with lightbearer comps, good to know you finished 15.

@mental fern check out Ayuh Le and Vitaliy Belka on how to complete entire chapter 20.

[pale kettle]

oh

[mental fern]

@sleek portal what?

Who is Ayuh le 💁

[vestal island]

Am I putting it in the wrong position or sth

[pale kettle]

i finally beat i was stuck on that fight for like 50+ tries

[sleek portal]

@mental fern check out Ayuh Le and Vitaliy Belka on youtube how to complete entire chapter 20.

[mental fern]

Ok Ty

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle Did you really do it or did you mean the final Chief camp?

[pale kettle]

i skipped that part and beat the boss

[vestal island]

Thank god had to loan a mercenary tasi to do this ig i need tasi

[potent acorn]

What’s your best lineups for Wrizz?

[unreal storm]

@sleek portal what are some good tanks I should look for then?

[sleek portal]

@unreal storm lucius,brutus,thoran,grezhul i think

[unreal storm]

Thoran is good? He seemed really mediocre when I was using him. I want a Lucius extremely bad but I haven't gotten lucky there

[flint cairn]

His signature is very good

[naive blade]

I've got an L+ Tasi, an L+ Nemora, and an Elite+ Lyca. I've got three Elite+ Wilders that I could use to pump up one of them. Which one should I do?

[sleek portal]

@naive blade nothing, unless you're level capped. you wanna ensure you have another 2 E+ copies of (tasi/nemora) before you bring them past L+.

[ember bane]

@sleek portal Lost

[sleek portal]

rip i guess.... lol.

[naive blade]

I do have another 2E+ copies of Nemora, another E+ copy of Lyca, and another 1E+1E copies of Tasi. I wasn't counting those in my extra three E+ wilders. So yeah, I can either get Lyca to L+ or Nemora to Ascended. Just not sure which one first.

[ember bane]

Go Lysa then Nemora then tasi

[sleek portal]

@naive blade how far in are you in campaign?

[naive blade]

I suppose it's worth pointing out that i'm about 7 Team Bounty Quests away from unlocking Ascended bounties, and I only have one Ascended (graveborn) so far

I'm at 16-23 in campaign. I could go deeper but I'm farming Mythic gear so I'm only doing one level every two days or so

[sleek portal]

usually the safe route i'd go is Nemora(since 100% to get to A0) then tasi then lyca. BUT tasi is really a godlike hero overall..... IF you're confident you can get her last copy by time you reach M+ with her i'd suggest go tasi first. Lyca is usually haste buff bot and since she's already behind the other 2 might as well as finish the other 2 first.

[naive blade]

Yeah, definitely not confident about getting one more Tasi.

[lethal rivet]

any tips?

[fierce kayak]

@naive blade do note afk 2 days might not land you M gear everytime. So as 3 or 4 days but more days be higher chance I think. But farming M gears is a good habit.

You can wait and hold on first unless you need to break level cap now. E+ lyca is fine. Personally if we are talking about A.. I vote Lyca > Nemora > Tasi. Tasi is S tier but she is still S tier No matter which ascension she is. But Lyca and nemora to A benefits them more.

Of cos.. I will still ascend either of them 3 if I have their copies to go White, or at least they at shop heroes like nemora.

[unreal storm]

I'm on a different account here and need help with this boss level, any help is greatly appreciated! Thank you.

[naive blade]

@fierce kayak thanks!

[devout berry]

Stuck on 16-36

[ashen schooner]

Try exchanging Brutus for Lyca, that Kaz will murder you pretty quick. @devout berry

[unreal storm]

Asking for help again, thanks for any advice

[ashen schooner]

Try switching Brutus and Hogan @unreal storm

[unreal storm]

Didn't work @ashen schooner

[ashen schooner]

May need a little bit of leveling up, maybe also try switching the Nemora with Arden.

[fallow totem]

Stuck at 11-36 any advice ?

[radiant sonnet]

Need help give me lineup?

[grand dragon]

Stuck since a week >~< need help

[fierce kayak]

@grand dragon try
Sav
Brutus
Khasos
Shemira
Arden

[grand dragon]

Ok thx

[naive crown]

Oh boy I sure do love brutus, very balanced hero

him being legendary make it even worse

[worthy island]

Any tips on beating this?

[amber rapids]

@worthy island you probably only need to get some cc in that stage and just rely on shemira for dmg. Try getting your lyca to L and putting her at the back with fawkes, nemora and either tasi or arden. You may need to borrow a tank for your front line or seriously invest into your lucius (he will be a major life saver in stages to come)

I know this because im running a similar setup

[untold maple]

Thoughts on how to get through this rapefest? it's 11-36

[supple stratus]

18-16

[still oar]

Lyca
Brutus
Nemora if you have
Shemira
Arden.
Arden roots Arden and Hogan and nemora charms IRA or ogi to disable ira

[untold maple]

@still oar any suggestions for me oh mastasahn?

[still oar]

Honestly idk much bout niru but as tank.

[untold maple]

He is the tank basically, I only put Rosaline in front to juke the first few hits and give pushback when she sweeps

[ember kindle]

is hogan actually usable at high levels?

[still oar]

Not much I can say unless I try it personally.
Maybe
Tasi
Hendrik
Rosaline
Lyca
Niru
Tasi probaby banishes estrilda and hopefully lyca dies fast enough to buff niru and starts the chain

[limpid quail]

@ember kindle what is high levels for you? he is maxed out at 160, ascended goes to 240 - so no he is not viable on high levels

[still oar]

Usually I charmed saveas

[limpid quail]

@untold maple what about your grezhul? did you try him out as tank? i think hendrik should be bottom tank cause he has faction advantage agains the maulers there

[untold maple]

@still oar Hrmm I'll give it a shot, Lyca will probably die instantly lol. and Tasi actually banishes the dwarf guy. I actually did try Grez, he's still complete shit even at L+. I even had Niru at 160, him at 132, and everyone else at 121, and he just gets wrecked

[ember kindle]

Ok. I mean at 160lvl can he actually compete with other same level heroes

[untold maple]

I did 160 grez as well, with everyone else being about 125.. he lived a little bit but ultimately* did nothing

[still oar]

@pale kettle
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora @pale kettle
Nemora charms ankhira while tasi banishes Isa(?) And saveas+brutus take care of brutus by pouring in as much dmg as possible to brutus so he won't have the time to fully whirlwind everyone.

@untold maple really? Lol

[untold maple]

If you are asking about the Tasi thing, yeah.. of all the absolute rape that exists in that lineup... she banishes the damn dwarf. His AOE is gross though

[still oar]

Yes.

[untold maple]

At reset tonight I'll have enough sigils to get my Rosaline from the event to make her E+ which might help a little bit. Otherwise, I am waiting a few more days for lab store to reset and I should be able to get my next shem from there and I can bring her to L+ or even feed Niru to her and go to M

[still oar]

You already 140 crystal so if you can 161+ Shem you should do so

160 to 161 is huge upgrade for her

[untold maple]

I can't get everyone to 140 yet 😦 I'm at 160/125

[solar python]

I need some advice on this one, do you think I stand a chance ?

[still oar]

Mb @untold maple I remember the wrong guy

[untold maple]

np 😄

[near sand]

What’s better? Getting my shemira to max or getting the other 4 to 200? Chap 19

[still oar]

220 shem @near sand

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[humble zenith]

hey, any help?

[warm ocean]

Kings tower 262 halp 😃

[indigo jolt]

@warm ocean Who does Tasi banish if you run?

[sly sparrow]

Need help with 13-12 please

[dusky sage]

Any tips im stuck

[indigo jolt]

@sly sparrow who does tasi banish? and are you far from 141 all

[fierce kayak]

@humble zenith try
Sav
Brutus
Tasi/Arden
Lyca
Nemora

Kill vedan first. Tasi should banish Khoaos? Nemora to charm golus. Lyca to dodge/off tank bottom to buy time.

[sly sparrow]

well she banishes vurk... and idk not much just few dust

[fervent yew]

Last current voyage boss is kicking my ass. Any tips? Have dealthy embrace and pretty good relics otherwise, just can't do anything to damage them :(

[warm ocean]

@indigo jolt lyca

[fierce kayak]

@fervent yew Atahlia can disable eorinn I think

[fervent yew]

Okay, will try her

[indigo jolt]

@sly sparrow Either just swap arden and tasi positions. OR try dropping arden for nemora as you dont have 3 roots.

[sly sparrow]

hmmm i guess i could try that or wait for 141

[fierce kayak]

@fervent yew if not.. then have to get ulti max before facing them

[dusky sage]

Anyone have any tips?^^^

[fervent yew]

Yeah okay. I'll maybe have to restart... Athalia can stop his first attack but then two others get wiped out straight after and it's all downhill from there :(

[sly sparrow]

OMG I WON IT... i just swapped tasi and arden and tasi ulted and i won yay

[indigo jolt]

@dusky sage
Run Meta.
Who does tasi banish?

[dusky sage]

Belinda

[limpid quail]

@fervent yew the cocoon relic is the best for this boss fight. also you want to have your team at full energy at the start. just restart the adventure and checkt the legendary box for the cocoon relic before taking any fight. restart again until its there

[indigo jolt]

@sly sparrow What did i say lol.

@warm ocean Try switching Lyca and Shems positons., drop Arden for Tasi.

[sly sparrow]

welp now im stuck at non boss stage lol

[indigo jolt]

@dusky sage Try for ferael charm.
Tasi
Brutus
Nem
Shem
Lyca

@sly sparrow 180 Shem 141 rest using meta is easy ch 15 with right formation.

[sly sparrow]

ye i mean im only like 300 dust close to get all to 141 so i guess i will do that

[dusky sage]

Forgot to turn the music off but you get the idea im getting wiped

[solemn gull]

Any help?

[sly sparrow]

wow your mehira is L already congrats mate

[indigo jolt]

@dusky sage try instead
Arden
brutus/lyca
Nem
Shem
Tasi

[sand kindle]

@solemn gull i dunno if it will work but u can try:

Athalia
Grezhl
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora or tasi

[indigo jolt]

@solemn gull
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus/Grez
Nemora

[sly sparrow]

@sand kindle oh sorry i thought its for me 😄

[solemn gull]

Thanks

[unreal storm]

I REALLY need help right now I'm beyond stuck, my guys keep dying the mireal sheilds the big tanky guy.

[astral marsh]

@unreal storm If you want use arden, he need to be lv 81+. Because before he root just 1 guy. So may be use belinda instead. And put Saveas and Brutu in bot to nuke ogi

[sonic nova]

any help?

[forest flume]

If you lvl saveas a bit further you will easily beat that wave, you're not even really stuck lol @unreal storm

[unreal storm]

I can't level Saveas any further right now unfortunately.

[forest flume]

You will in one or two days : P

[pale kettle]

Should I keep focusing on lyca? Or should I work on Eironn or kaz? What would my best wilder team be?

[sand kindle]

@sonic nova try

Arden
Belinda/Shemira
Lyca
Rowan
Tasi

[astral marsh]

@sonic nova Shemira tasi rowan seirus arden . Use tasi ulti then shemira ulti and GO FOR ALL ULTI ! should work

[forest flume]

@sonic nova try with seirus ulmus arden belinda tasi

[indigo jolt]

@unreal storm If you really want to progress now. Reset etrilda. Level Arden instead to 81 and Belinda to 80. Then level Saveas.

[sonic nova]

i don’t have lyca @sand kindle

[sand kindle]

@sonic nova nemora?

[forest flume]

@pale kettle i think focusing lyca will help the most in pvp, campaign, tower etc. Eirron will help a lot in wilder tower and challenger arena

[unreal storm]

@indigo jolt that has helped but that mireal just does MASSIVE damage to my maulers

[indigo jolt]

@unreal storm How close do you get?

[forest flume]

😓

[unreal storm]

I kill the ogi and get the mireal to about half hp @indigo jolt

[forest flume]

Maybe use a faction bonus? Sav brut and 3 wilder should be an improvement

[unreal storm]

The old shotgun guy is so annoying too lol

[west iron]

use athalia or someone to knock the shotgun guy forward to kill him more easily.

[unreal storm]

Thanks to the combined help of you two I got it! Thank you guys @forest flume @indigo jolt

That was the team that got me there

[shrewd depot]

Hey guys, someone mind helping me decide my main lineup based on my options?

[torn narwhal]

Can someone help me with my lineup for 19-38?

[shrewd depot]

Any advice? I was currently running Athalia, Lucius, Hendrick, Mirael, and Tasi. But then I got the twins and debated whether or not I should add them in.

[obsidian kindle]

21-9 i cant kill anything, have to wait for mercenary on Sunday i guess

[indigo jolt]

@torn narwhal
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi

restart till Nem charms arden. If nem not fast enough switch gear around.

[torn narwhal]

Ty

[forest flume]

@unreal storm awesome! That was the team i had in mind

[shrewd depot]

@indigo jolt any general advice for mine?

[torn narwhal]

@indigo jolt it's not working xD

[indigo jolt]

@shrewd depot Should be overlevelling your carry. Generally Sav is considered the best early. Could probably just swap Saveas straight in for Mirael if you go with that.
May also be worth dropping one of your tanks for Arden, depending on the stage.
Read the pins in #classic-questions

@torn narwhal You never charm Arden?

[torn narwhal]

@indigo jolt shem silenced arden every time so there's no point in charming

[indigo jolt]

@torn narwhal Roots should go off before the silence if i remember right. Otherwise its a matter of retrying alot. Maybe switch artifacts around.
If that setup isnt working, its a fairly common wall level, you should easily be able to search for different setups.

[sand kindle]

@torn narwhal go:

Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Nemora

Roll around 40-50 times and u will pass it. Its 100% working lineup

[torn narwhal]

@sand kindle ty I'll try

[shrewd depot]

@indigo jolt thanks for the help, so you don't think Elijah and Lailah are worth having in lineup right now?

[oak zephyr]

where should I be going, stuck at 11-20

[jade compass]

bruh,

[indigo jolt]

@shrewd depot i wouldn't run both athalia and Twins, change in and out if you want. see which works better for you.

[shrewd depot]

@indigo jolt how’s that look?

[indigo jolt]

Ok, may be better off with Sav frontline once you start overlevelling him.

[shrewd depot]

@indigo jolt Okay thanks for the help. Last thing, out of those hero's.. which one should I have Dura's Grace relic on? I currently have it on Lucius

[amber rivet]

Looking for suggestions, and what faction I should use my scrolls for.

[ancient oasis]

Need help with my alt acc

[woven slate]

I'm stuck at 6-28 is there something I should be focusing on that I'm missing?

[thick saddle]

Thoughts on this one? 15-36

[cursive sparrow]

Hey I'm fairly new, could somebody please suggest what I should do with this? Pm me please

[pale kettle]

Could anyone help me out on what should I spend my factions scrolls on to prepare for endgame lineups? Thanks

[plucky flint]

@pale kettle the most immediately beneficial thing would be to use it on GB so you can mythic your Shem. After that, your wilders are looking a little sparse. You look like you’re going hard LB in which case I guess that’s where you should spend your resources

[thick saddle]

@fierce kayak

[fierce kayak]

@thick saddle and full roster buddy. Tq

[clear saddle]

@fierce kayak everythings already there probably lol. @thick saddle think better for you to run shem bottom with lyca behind her, arden middle 🙂 try

[fierce kayak]

O ok... tks @clear saddle

[clear saddle]

@fierce kayak not tryna criticise lol, but all the wilders r already there, just positioning i think

[fierce kayak]

@clear saddle ya.. you are right. Stupid me.. haha

[clear saddle]

nonono, its fine lol, better to have whole setup just in case, not ur problem xd

[fierce kayak]

@thick saddle you try Tuesday way and what bidoof post on question first buddy.

@clear saddle I got used to request full roster..😂

[clear saddle]

Yeah, its still better to req full roster anyway

[thick saddle]

The way bidoof posted seems to get me closer. But that Isabella Ults and I go night night. Maybe when I finally +10 my shemira sig item tonight, that’ll be that extra oof I need

[cursive sparrow]

Is there a voice channel?

[fierce kayak]

@thick saddle don't need its needed. Chap 15 shouldn't be that difficult. Just need more tries with setup.

[thick saddle]

The niru full heals too. I’m missin jus a lil damage

[clear saddle]

@thick saddle you try my setup? need decent equip on lyca, you need ur arden to root vedan, and need you to kill him first, make sure you have call on tasi and eye on shem

[fierce kayak]

@clear saddle now I remember why I need full roster. To make sure he fully overlevel Shem and not wasted levels on other heroes.

[clear saddle]

Yeah @fierce kayak fair enough

[thick saddle]

Just beat it with bidoofs pic. Crazy rng got those 2 and got grace on Brutus? Dunno if I should do drape instead?

[fierce kayak]

@thick saddle always max Shem first before leveling others. Shem 180 first. Not sure worth to reset now but... tasi banish Khoaos right?

[clear saddle]

drape on brut, grace on lyca 🙂 @thick saddle then once u get blade, put that on shem and eye on arden

[fierce kayak]

@thick saddle ok nice. Gratz. Anyway next time last resort can use Athalia. She is the Wild card vs Arden and maybe even Isabelle

[silent wraith]

my lineup works 😃

[fierce kayak]

Suddenly everyone is here.. haha

[thick saddle]

Grace on lyca? I’ve always had call on lyca. That seemed to be the move

[sand kindle]

@thick saddle try:

Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Nemora

Or u can try switch arden & nemora and see if it goes better

[clear saddle]

@thick saddle noooo call on tasi 100% of the time. until later, when u need call on shem at ch21 or something

[fierce kayak]

^ 95% of the time

[silent wraith]

@clear saddle noob not all the time

[clear saddle]

[sand kindle]

Shem = Duras Eye hehe

[thick saddle]

Oh grace on lyca my bad. Hmmm. Should mention my grace is enhanced once. The 8% defense is better than 10% more hp on Brutus?

[tender anchor]

Hi ! Any idea how I can Line this up properly ? (Just began ch6 & adventure thing on the dark forest... guetting pretty much destroyed)

[indigo jolt]

@shrewd depot Saveas may receive the best benefit.

[thick saddle]

Never thought about either on lyca as 9/10 times she gets 1 shot by something atm

[unreal storm]

Okay I need help once again, this level is really hard lol

[clear saddle]

@thick saddle shes only viable as off tank when she gets M equipment cos of dodge

[unreal storm]

I've tried a couple diffrent positions but that one is ust where I took the SS

[thick saddle]

But drapes 8% defense over graces 10% hp and shield for Brutus @clear saddle ?

[clear saddle]

Drape better for brutus 🙂

[sand kindle]

cmon guys, brutus = sword

[unreal storm]

Please help me idk how to beat this at all

[thick saddle]

Never tried drape on Brutus. Gues I will..

[split flicker]

12-8 is currently the death of me...any tips?._.

[sand kindle]

@unreal storm

Tasi (lvl 81)
Saveas (lvl 120)
Antandra (lvl 100)
Brut (lvl 100 or lower if not enough exp)
Ira (lvl 81)

or just afk and get moar exp. Also read pinned messages about leveling ur heroes

[high oyster]

Need some advice for this stage

[cursive sparrow]

Is there a voice chat in here?

[unreal storm]

@sand kindle I don't have Antandra

@sand kindle did you mean Satrana?

[cursive sparrow]

I really fucked up my build, could anybody help me out? 😂

[sand kindle]

@unreal storm yea soz sartrana

[vital furnace]

Who should I take to lvl181 first? Unsure which ability upgrade is the best

[indigo jolt]

@vital furnace Shem and you should et her straight to 200.

[cursive sparrow]

I know I should probably reset my hero's and restart

But what should I level up?

Anyone?

[indigo jolt]

Saveas, would be worth reading the pins in #classic-questions

[cursive sparrow]

Even though he's only rare?

[indigo jolt]

You should be able to make him Elite soon, looking at your others.

[cursive sparrow]

@indigo jolt thanks man, have a nice day

[indigo jolt]

Yw.

[abstract shuttle]

Stuck on 19-20 and help would be appreciated greatly

[indigo jolt]

@abstract shuttle

[sand kindle]

@abstract shuttle or this one

[indigo jolt]

Yours may work better as he has M+ Brutus, not Lyca.

[sand kindle]

Anyway shem is primary dmg

[cursive sparrow]

This is literally impossible, I probably just need to afk

[lean ingot]

Ideas

[jovial moat]

lineup help please?

[craggy talon]

I just went through these last night, Shem carried me through 12 and 13. Lineup was Shem, Thoran, Arden, Tasi, Nemora

@jovial moat ^

[jovial moat]

I'm guessing you got her from sigils event, that's how I got her to m

[craggy talon]

No, just lucky on the pulls, using sigils for Lyca

[marsh sentinel]

Help with lineup? It would be much appreciated i usualy use brutus ulmus nemora tasi sav

[jovial moat]

all of those are e for me, but my tasi is e+ and shem is m

level up sav some more if you can

[pale kettle]

should i ascend savius or the new hero?

[marsh sentinel]

👍 should I switch lucius for ulmus?

[craggy talon]

@jovial moat this was my lineup, hasn’t changed since I cleared it. You could probably switch out Arden for Lyca but his root ability is what helped

[pale kettle]

What lineup should i maje, and i wait for food or can i up one of them?

*make

[jovial moat]

It worked perfectly, I used gorvo to make up for arden vines with his stun @craggy talon

[craggy talon]

👌🏻

[steep cape]

Suggestions ?

[soft bobcat]

Stuck at 12.12 who to use?

[jovial moat]

sav, belinda, lucius, brutus, arden

maybe swap tasi for arden though, and shem isn't very useful until level 161

[civic canopy]

Beatable?

[craggy talon]

Looks like it lol

[pale kettle]

im stuck on 7-40 think i need some changes any tips?

is it just hero levels? like just afk for a day?

[supple stratus]

lol that 5* nemora tho 😄

[old ore]

What should i do? I have 2 open rescrystal spots.

[jovial moat]

@old ore how tf you get your entire hero list in one ss

[old ore]

I cropped and joined 2 screenshots lmao

[vestal quartz]

@civic canopy with the comp you have and lyca you can go at least until chapter 21

[vestal island]

Any clue? Ran out of time but changing anything would cause everyone to die quickly

[jovial moat]

saveas for hendrik maybe as a tank

[supple stratus]

So far ch 18 has been easy but 18-20 is slaughtering my life. Any ideas?

[viral timber]

what to do here:

1. do i upgrade brutus to legendary with the saveas + ankhira and then work on getting him to legendary+ asap?
   or do i try to make a maulers team since i have some other elite maulers?
2. If i dont make a maulers team right now (in 30 hours my labyrinth resets and i can buy an elite nemora) - what would you recommend?
3. Make rowan elite and use him as my healer? worked fine so far until 7-8, now i need more levels, thinking about replacing him with nemora in 30 hours once i get her and make the "0815 meta" comp tho.
   or do i keep the two "fodder" heros and wait for elite+ lucius and push him to legendary? Make a lightbringer based team even?

4)do i upgrade my tasi+ (which i couldnt make to work with my current heros yet) to legendary, or do i wait for lyca / upgrade my arden to legendary?

what comp would you suggest and how should i level them in general?

[brittle maple]

Whats my best bet for progressing past ch 5? I think im going to purchase nemora after lab resets but im not sure

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[vestal island]

holy shit thx cleared it by repalcing arden with sav @jovial moat

[tame acorn]

Hard stuck on 16-36. Any ideas?

[amber rivet]

Not sure who to invest in, and mainly what faction to roll my scrolls for. Wilder/GB/Mauler all seem like maybes.

[brittle maple]

Yea I’m at a loss lol

[pale kettle]

@amber rivet first of all, reset all those heroes that you levelled up and that currently are below 93...you never ever level up more than 5 heroes!!!

[amber rivet]

That's fair

[winter drum]

Day 5, stuck on 6-28

[tame acorn]

Anyone have 16-36 tips?

[brittle maple]

Welp, im hard stuck lol. Everyone except shem dies too fast

Ok..moved Shem to front line and beat the stage

[pale kettle]

Should i refocus my lineup? Im stuck at 10-16

[exotic egret]

Stuck on 10-32, any ideas?

[versed canopy]

Hi anyone got tips for 18-40 ?

[pale kettle]

@versed canopy put nemora in the middle and retry till she charms adren

@exotic egret swap arden and shem. Ans maybe swap nemora and lyca. Try to charm saveas

[exotic egret]

@pale kettle already tried

[brittle maple]

Being hard stuck sucks

[formal sail]

Final boss in lucent vault, any tips or need to farm out more relics?

[pale kettle]

@exotic egret wait and max your heroes then

[versed canopy]

@pale kettle even if he gets charmed he's either muted or tangles to late for my team to survive

[pale kettle]

@formal sail try arden instead of mehira. And try to have the faction bonus. Maybe with the vampire

@versed canopy try to put rowan he will keep you alive till you proc your ults

@versed canopy if arden get charmed and even with the root you cant win your team lacks damage

[calm tendon]

Hey guys I’m new to the game and have no clue how to properly team build. What would be the best set up here?

[versed canopy]

@pale kettle rowan where/ instead of whom ?

[sharp egret]

you're too low levelled and havent rolled enough heroes yet to form a team comp @calm tendon . sell ulric though hes useless and taking up a bit of xp

[brittle maple]

Super frustrated and hard stuck, please help

[calm tendon]

@sharp egret oh okay thanks

[wise bramble]

I'm stuck here for a while, and I am really wondering what the best next move is. Maybe my heroes are just underleveled?

[pale kettle]

@versed canopy middle back he can buff the two front heroes for 5 to 10secs with potions

[versed canopy]

@pale kettle shouldnt nemora be middle as you said earlier ?

[pale kettle]

@calm tendon very important : only level your 5 best heroes. Put other in the crystal. Throw the greens. Play 1 or 2weeks then look what you have and check out the best heroes list on afkarena net

[calm tendon]

@pale kettle how do I "throw" my green units away?

[pale kettle]

@versed canopy well you said it doesnt work haha

[brittle maple]

How do you level up underleveled heroes? By literally afking?

[pale kettle]

@calm tendon retire them in the rickety cart

[calm tendon]

oh wtf that is so easy to miss. Thanks! @pale kettle

[sharp egret]

Green team is A team, Blue is B. For running the lab/peaks/voyages. Any suggestions for either?

[turbid fern]

Stuck at 16-20 for a few days. Any idea or simply wait to level up more my other characters ?

[sharp egret]

Lucius will get the crystal next, I just have to wait 20+ hrs

[supple stratus]

18 20 got my number. Tried with brutus and Shemira backline and both frontlines. At best i get tasi ult and shem ult then die. Is this my Wall for now?

[pale kettle]

@sharp egret use ira tasi and lucius in your best team. Thoran is useless for bosses

[sharp egret]

@pale kettle you would take Arden out for Ira? Green is for campaign/tower/PvP , the second team is like a meatshield for longer stuff. My wrizz team is Belinda/Rowan/Raine/Sav/Ulmus

[pale kettle]

@supple stratus maybe try this : swap lyca with brutus. Then tasi with lyca and nemora with tasi

[supple stratus]

yea tried that

basically tried all kinds of positions with brutus / lyca / arden / tasi / nemora / shemira. and even gorvo/thoran/eironn/fawkes fast, not even close to pulling anything off, other than ult from tasi+shem. time to afk?

[radiant hull]

Vedan giving me a major headache right now...anything I can do here without having to bring Sav to L+ ?

First time I'm stuck on a non-boss stage lol

[pale kettle]

@sharp egret there is no best 5 heroes. Its very situational. Heroes with hard CC are very usefull. Arden is very usefull till chapter21. Ira is very good dps early game till saveas i would say

[sharp egret]

Yeah I have a L+ saveas

[pale kettle]

@supple stratus what is your main issue? You die too fast? No damage? You cant kill an ennemy? What part of your team falls appart first? Thats the questions i ask myself

[supple stratus]

i just die fast, people fall off before tasi can sleep.

[bold musk]

So how the fuck do get past this shit 430k vs 230k... Wtf game

[pale kettle]

@supple stratus i think your goal is to ult with shem as fast as possible. Put her duras call and in back line if she cant tank. But in backline she will fill energy slower.

[versed canopy]

@pale kettle oh ok, the problem is that they hit way harder than he can heal then gets oneshotted, I really dont understand the powerspike from 18 36 to to 18 40

[supple stratus]

tried that too, she ults but tasi doesnt ult and i die. 😄 might just be one of those rare hard stuck walls i guess

[pale kettle]

@supple stratus tasi sleep is useless if you cant dps during the sleep

[supple stratus]

do you think my heroes can beat that map? then i'll keep going.

haven't seen anyone as weak as me here even when searching through pages on discord searching for 18-20. trying to find some kind of hope

[wind radish]

I just started playing, who should I use to replace warek in my frontline?

[pale kettle]

@supple stratus i dont remember if you are too underleveled but your heroes are fine yes. The main issue with this shit hero (the reaper guy) is to kill him before the timer goes off. Shemira too. So when they are both here you have to got some big burst

[terse bison]

21-10, I can't do anything here, pls help

[sonic nova]

last thing i need to do for this event any help?

[brittle maple]

Do I literally just have to afk to level up my underleveled heroes?

[pale kettle]

@brittle maple yes and lab

[bronze lance]

Heya

[bronze lance]

Im a bit beginer, and im locked in 9-40. Do Someone can help me ?

[brittle maple]

Well that’s shitty

Guess I’m afking for a while

[austere vale]

How I finally beat 18-40, for anybody stuck there.

[graceful garden]

I need some opinions

I have some item of dura too, that prevents some damage

Alternatively I could do 50 repeats but I need some general tips what to look for in statistics

[wraith barn]

Please help been stuck for 2 days

[visual quiver]

What would be the best lineup for wrizz and soren? Currently I‘m using ezizh sav frontline, tasi lyca nenora backline

[regal swallow]

11-38 please help

[brittle maple]

So is my first purchase from lab a 2nd elite sem or my first nemora?

[plucky flint]

Get nem. Then buy shem with each subsequent purchase

[visual quiver]

nemora makes your lab/VoW/PoT a lot easier. the lab shop only refreshes every 30 days and is always the same. you should have enough coins after a month to get 2 heroes. so get nemora now and shem later

[brittle maple]

Got it

[plucky flint]

@visual quiver cc doesn’t work on guild bosses. I would do lucius estrilda belinda rosaline sav

[brittle maple]

I think I’m stuck until then cause my team is too under leveled

[visual quiver]

ok, thanks. I'll try that in a few hours

[plucky flint]

@visual quiver Soren will be tough because you really want a summoner (like baden or grez) who can eat his charms.

[visual quiver]

I'm far away from the next dmg chest anyways so the formation probably doesn't matter too much

[high oyster]

Any advice I could use

[pale kettle]

6-20 what should I do?

[pallid oasis]

What are your thoughts, I could have Lucius to L+ if i sacrifice Hendrik and Belinda but i am worried if I do that

[visual quiver]

never use ascended heroes as fodder. read the pinned messages in #classic-questions

[honest storm]

Someone has an idea on something or the two things?

[glass moat]

I have a feeling i will be stuck on this level for quite a bit, maybe i need a new lineup entirely but this has worked for a good time. Any tips on who to try to ascend, who to maybe level up next ( i can level someone to 120 but not sure who yet)

[solid thistle]

y

[brittle maple]

Yay I beat the stage I was stuck on

[regal swallow]

Who can help me out, 11-38 don’t know what to change

[brittle maple]

How do i deal with the enemy sav before it deletes everyone?

[warm rain]

I keep getting so close to finishing this - anything I could be doing differently?

[regal swallow]

@brittle maple I’d say it’s best to revert shemira and level saveas

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow I have my vedan using the saveas gear

[regal swallow]

@brittle maple saveas will be your main carry for a while so focus him

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow who do I use in place of vedan then since I have to swap the gear over to saveas?

Rest of my heroes

[unreal storm]

I'm stuck, I can't figure out how to beat this stupid level, Vedan is so annoying! Please help me out, thanks for any information you can provide me with on how to beat this level.

[fleet kernel]

That back line is too much for my team idk what to do

[regal swallow]

@brittle maple Hogan Estrilda frontline then Belinda Tasi saveas

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow I can also make a E+ Aedan

[fleet kernel]

@unreal storm try

Saveas
Thoran
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
?

[brittle maple]

I can also make E+ tasi

[indigo jolt]

@fleet kernel Who does Tasi banish?

[astral gorge]

Any tips for 18-40

[fleet kernel]

@indigo jolt she doesn't ...she gets 1 hit.

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow should I e+ tasi?

[indigo jolt]

@astral gorge
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
or
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi

[astral gorge]

ty ill try thos

[indigo jolt]

@fleet kernel Really? have you tried multiple positons?

@brittle maple You can never go wrong making e+ or r+ copies of heroes, as you are only using duplicates.

[fleet kernel]

Yeah, she gets targeted by Silvina every time. 2 hits @indigo jolt

[regal swallow]

@brittle maple you’ll want to E+ all your ascended heroes, never use any to ascend others, look at all the heroes, the ones that are ascended tier you shouldn’t sacrifice

[indigo jolt]

If she doesn't get 1 hit, should be able to tp away.

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow I don't think I have any asvended

[fleet kernel]

Yeah it was just RNG. She lived this time and I beat it. I put her opposite corner of Silvina just to try it out @indigo jolt

[indigo jolt]

Gl going forward then.

[unreal storm]

@fleet kernel that lets me kill Vedan but then the bottom row all survive and the spider chick CC's my Saveas Tasi never even gets to ult either

[regal swallow]

If you go on this tab you’ll see all the ascended tire heroes, never sacrifice those, legendary tier you’ll be sacrificing @brittle maple

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow my tasi, Belinda, Brutus, estrilda show up there

[sullen surge]

Any help pleasw

[regal swallow]

@brittle maple don’t use those to upgrade others, there are some legendary heroes that you’ll want to keep and upgrade to legendary+, mainly saveas as he is a strong carry

[rough plover]

any tips

[high oyster]

@sullen surge try using Brutus instead of hogan

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow I need another copy of saveas

[unreal storm]

Any help is greatly appreciated, I can't figure out any way to get out of this

[regal swallow]

@brittle maple then wait to get lucky with another copy, also try not to upgrade to legendary unless you can upgrade straight to legendary+

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow yea that's what I heard

@regal swallow I also just pulled a Kendrick and khasos

[solid marten]

Anything i can do here?

[oblique phoenix]

Creator of 16-20: who hurt you? This comp is the closest I've gotten to winning so far but still not close

[brittle maple]

@regal swallow got saveas to elite, cleared first try

[brave dagger]

getting a bit stuck on the vault, any line up advice for the last crystal chest thing?

[dusky sage]

Any tips

[open widget]

Help?

[warm ocean]

21-60 please help 😃

[unreal arrow]

Stuck on 9-8 . Any advice on what to be doing?

[brave dagger]

no advice for me?

[warm ocean]

21-60 please help

[dusky sage]

@open widget do you have an athalia even at Elite to dive arden

[open widget]

I’ll give her a try! Thanks

They destroy her as soon as she lands even with mythic gear on

[last granite]

@unreal arrow swap brutus and tasi position, swap arden with lyca/mirael

[warm ocean]

21-60 please help me 😃

[unreal arrow]

@last granite got it! Was Arden for Mir because of dmg output?

[last granite]

@unreal arrow yeah since mirael has better dps and AoE she can help saveas. But you can try keeping arden and swap tasi/nemora instead for lyca for the haste if you need arden's roots

[boreal kestrel]

@open widget this was the team I used for that lvl

[brittle maple]

This brutus sev is wrecking my shit. Help? Lol

[last granite]

@brittle maple try to always put saveas behind brutus (like the enemy lineup). You can use athalia against saveas to counter him if you want

[warm ocean]

21-60 help 😃

[brittle maple]

@last granite lol put dab behind Brutus and won first try

[brave dagger]

any advice for a team?

[loud osprey]

Any formation suggestions? Thanks❤️

[high oyster]

Stuck at 6-24 any advice

[pallid lake]

Any suggestions 17-28?

[loud osprey]

@high oyster yeah. Dont level everyone the same... Overlevel ur saveus

@pallid lake try using nemora in the middle to get feral charmed the rest is just meta team

[worthy grove]

Any suggestions 😓

[pallid lake]

@loud osprey yeah I’ve been doing that and my shem just isn’t lasting long enough

[rough plover]

does anyone have any tips for my lineup in general. people to overlevel or to replace? all mentions appreciated

[snow plover]

random question -- i've found that Rosaline does way more damage than i'm expecting. she's often the highest damage dealer, even with a lineup that has shemira and/or saveas in it. where is all the damage coming from?

(i'm midgame, all leg or leg+ with 134-141 levels)

[pale rover]

@snow plover You can ask those in #classic-questions

[snow plover]

ah sorry, thank you!

[loud osprey]

@rough plover overlevel ur belinda shes a good carry until mid game

@pallid lake maybe try this
Shem
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi/arden

[urban garnet]

I havnt really looked at guides but is there tips on my lineup? I don't really know ahahah

[loud osprey]

@urban garnet saveus is a very good characther in early game for carry so focus him early game also idk if u know dont use ascended heros for ascension just to be sure

[worthy grove]

Stuck.. also im able to get rosaline to legendary if that helps..

[loud osprey]

@worthy grove try
Belinda
Lucious
Tasi/rosa
Brutus
Nemora
Make nemora charm saveus

[high oyster]

What to level up to 100 next

[solemn gull]

Any?

[loud osprey]

@high oyster keep levling saveus... If it sais everyone else must be at least level (x) then level all others to that and keep pushing saveus

[ashen schooner]

Grezhul
Brutus
Shemira
Tasi
Nemora @solemn gull

[worthy grove]

@loud osprey doesn't work 😓 they die to fast

[rough plover]

thanks @loud osprey

[ashen schooner]

@worthy grove Switch Rosaline out for Nemora, then swap places with Belinda. Reset until Saveas gets charmed by Nemora.

[high oyster]

@loud osprey won’t let me level him more till I get him to E+

[loud osprey]

@ashen schooner any tips for me? Thanks❤️

@high oyster then go with this formula of levling dps>tank>supports

[high oyster]

🤔 ok I’ll do that thx

[ashen schooner]

Mmmm. This one was a bitch. So I went
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Silvina will immediately jump onto your Nemora, so maybe try swapping the Brutus and Shemira placement.

[golden stone]

Any advice on 20-27? Been stuck here a few days now. I've reached the point where I can get Kaz down a good chunk of the time, but then I get wrecked by the combo of Ulmus and Tasi.

edit: holy shit never mind i passed it with the pictured setup

[loud osprey]

@ashen schooner oo thanks man❤️

[worthy grove]

@ashen schooner nemora gets one shot and dies 👀

[solemn gull]

@ashen schooner it doesn’t work

[loud osprey]

@golden stone i was legit 1 second away from winning with this setup

[golden stone]

I wound up beating it with Arden and Lyca swapped from the way you have it

took literally hundreds of tries in total though lol

[loud osprey]

@golden stone haha yeah im not able to recreate that 1 round i almost passed😂😂

[ashen schooner]

@worthy grove Keep resetting until Nemora charms the Saveas.
@solemn gull How many times have you tried? Try
Lyca
Brutus
Shemira
Tasi
Nemora
See if Wilder faction bonus helps at all.

[golden stone]

If it makes you feel any better, 20-28 is WAY easier, so you'll have a nicer time at least once you're through 20-27

[urban garnet]

@loud osprey but do you have a line up suggestion?

[loud osprey]

@urban garnet it all depends on what u come against but u could go
Rosa
Shem
Nemora
Sav
Tasi

[urban garnet]

sav in the front line?

[loud osprey]

Considering u dont really have any tanks then yeah also over level him

[urban garnet]

i see i see.. ill try it out