sorry if i ask, but what are laby coins?
brutus i have one copy , as well as nemora and arden - lyca and tasi i have to check
saveas i can promote to epic.
#lineup-help
balmy stirrup
small acorn
Labyrinth coins
balmy stirrup
ah, yes, of course. did that already once. Thats why i am on legendary with her (:
small acorn
Those heros will carry you paat chapter 21
Dam fingers, so just work on your 4x wilder heros for support. And try get brutus and shem up. If you do sink money you can go for more options.
balmy stirrup
only initially so i get a game rolling, then i stop with it. after a while you need to sink a lot in those games to grow faster.
Thank you very much @small acorn & @acoustic hawk
modern ginkgo
hey i am new, just wondering who i should use out of these
i just got tasi and lucius so i havent leveled them yet but i think tasi is good right
faint quest
Any tips?
ember bane
@mild wing I lost 5 times same way 20-54 mostly done 100X what's the solution ty
Also i have tried Brutus n Lucius but didn't work well
languid monolith
Anyone have any idea for lineup? :)
echo leaf
Main team is Estrilda, Belinda, Tasi, and Lyca. Having difficulty choosing between L Thane and E+ Athalia. Thoughts? On 13-40 rn
small acorn
Thane is decent carry, can get 1xshot a lot though aa he dives in
Athalia is always good, but E+ is low, and she will be hard to get copies moving forward. You need to work on shem for powerhouse progression and she is easy to get in laby. @echo leaf
echo leaf
But Shem is so boring 😑
small acorn
@ember bane have you tried to charm enemy arden.
Well... its not as boring as being stuck for days
echo leaf
Ehh. Idk. I'd rather use units I enjoy and progress slightly slower than spam the most overused hero in the game
ember bane
@greenfrogs#4201 yes I have tried but mostly same Ulmus n Arden don't die easily
small acorn
Atleast ulmus doesnt have nemora healing him aswell, thats painful
untold nacelle
Help needed please
small acorn
@ember bane you csn try brutus infront of ulmus and shem top, give shem dura call and brutus dura blade. This setup is used a lot vs ulmus/nem comps where you need to try kill ulmus before he ults.
pale kettle
small acorn
So do from 1-5 shem, brutus, tasi, lyca, nemora
pale kettle
Any ideas? Cant beat them
ember bane
Ok I try it but may be I need to wait for mercenary Brutus
small acorn
@pale kettle have to charm enemy fereal
@ember bane yeah you need a brutus, lucius dies way to quickly
winter drum
Is it okay without tank?
small acorn
@pale kettle put nemora opposite him, use lyca for quick charm, then fereal will haunt his own team and its an easy win
pale kettle
Gonna try it, thanks @small acorn
small acorn
@winter drum for now, but you will need 1 very soon
pale kettle
It worked, thanks bro <3 @greenfrogs#4201
hasty dawn
any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
pale kettle
@greenfrogs#4201 any idea!?
faint quest
@fierce kayakye same with ur wilders being 180 :/ will try once i get a 201+ shem ty:)
pale kettle
Nvm, did it
untold nacelle
Stuck here, any advice would be amazing!
oak lance
Stuck on 11-38 any help?
fierce kayak
@untold nacelle keep leveling Sav to 160. Try
Nemora
Brutus
Eorinn
Sav
Tasi
Build Arden L+ 141 buddy. Else we can't help you much.
Read pinned messages #classic-questions
craggy coral
Any suggestions @fierce kayak
fierce kayak
@craggy coral tough match. Try
Sav
Brutus
belinda
Hogan
Fawkes
Or
Sav
Brutus
Atalia
Hogan
Nemora/arden
But you have good roster. Should win with some tries. Can mix and match. First dps top, 2nd try to handle Brutus either with fawkes or nemora charm. Athalia is there to disable Bell to reduce their damage to you
craggy coral
Okey😁
hasty dawn
stuck here. any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
craggy coral
@fierce kayak that worked thanks🤩
ashen schooner
@hasty dawn Try moving Nemora where Arden is, and test if Lucius being switched with Lyca does any significant changes.
@dreamy flicker Try
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
ember bane
@small acorn i have tried your method many times but didn't work well Shemira n tasi dies quickly
hasty dawn
@ashen schooner I cleared with
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
thanks!!
ashen schooner
@ember bane Try
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira
If you're lucky, Tasi will blink before Ulmus and Arden really get her.
twin hare
Hi all, current team is level ~91 hogan, lucius, nemora, saveas and mehira. I have arden, belinda and ezizh to potentially swap in, would that improve anything?
hasty dawn
seems like I've been overvalueing lucius and undervaluing lyca haha
ashen schooner
@twin hare Try adding more damage into your lineup. Belinda in place of Mehira possibly.
twin hare
thank you
dreamy flicker
@ashen schooner tried it, didn't work. I'll fiddle round some more, thanks 😊
sleek portal
anyone has screenshot for 21-26? thanks.
split flicker
I need help..currently stuck on 11-28. Everyone pretty much dies in less than 5 seconds. Tried multiple combinations of lightbearers and the wilders trio alongside saveas/:
sleek portal
@split flicker best to post both hero pool and the enemy you're facing, cause most of the people probably dont remember how 11-28 looks like
split flicker
That’s the enemy line up
sleek portal
@split flicker tbh im not familiar with playing saveas over level in a 5 man lineup, i'd advice using 3 wilders backline + belinda and lucius/hendrik(depending who tanks longer). nemora's position should always be top or bottom in your current fight, you either want to charm the spider lady for her spider lock, or charm saveas so he destroy the khasos for you, lyca middle for haste buff, top could be level141 arden for triple root or double root at your level or tasi for single banish. that's how i got past chapter 11-28.
Edit: or you can try lucius + saveas front line or hendrik
odd elbow
Hi guys I would like some help about a team for Wrizz I'm gonna use shimera nemora ira and Belinda for her buff but what tank should I use?
unreal storm
How should I build my team? I know i should use Brutus and Saveas and likely Arden for his great CC but I'm not sure what the rest of my lineup should look like
fierce kayak
@frank moss will need tasi most of the time from now on. Try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora/Arden
Backline try and play around.
Else try Lyca off tank for Brutus or Shem.
sleek portal
@odd elbow shemira for wrizz for your level is bad, i'd use saveas and put hogan/golus/khasos in front, generally speaking early game wrizz is just go in as 5 hoping to finish the entire 1:30 duration, if you can do that then you only plan to make changes to lineup as you go on
loud dagger
I charmed the ira
Then shemira is backlane swapped with lyca in front
But my dps is ferael that time
sleek portal
brutus usually should face kaz, lyca front line and shemira behind her.
Edit: oh wait there's Ira, put nemora behind lyca to charm Ira so she kills 1 fast for you
loud dagger
Since im not one of the guys who use shemira kek
Thats the normal case
Always brutus in front of kaz
If you have lyca +10 no need for brutus in front of her
frank moss
what is lyca +10? oh the sig weap?
sleek portal
@loud dagger dude you have lyca above +10? legit question here how good is that +40 accuracy for stages like.... say 20/21?
fierce kayak
@unreal storm use
Sav
Brutus
Anyone
Anyone
Anyone
Arden in when he has 2 roots LVL 81. Just learn and enjoy game for now and read pinned messages here and #classic-questions. Too early to plan. When You pull more heroes then we discuss again
loud dagger
My actual lineup for
17-35
Arden brutus
DPS lyca
Nemora
odd elbow
@sleek portal Ty I'll try to find some saveas and for the moment just put more tank in front
loud dagger
Just rng charm ira
fierce kayak
@frank moss if you wanna build lyca sig.. must aim all the way to +20
frank moss
no I prob won't, I was thinking of M Tasi first or M Nem
loud dagger
@sleek portal it makes kaz less do that dodge dart unlike before
sleek portal
@fierce kayak you literally just destroyed my hope to +sig on lyca. FeelsBadMan
loud dagger
But its way better if its +20
fierce kayak
@sleek portal lol y?
loud dagger
Like 9 said
sleek portal
i guess it's not THAT hard to get to +10, but the gold emblems are really hard to come by.
loud dagger
But lyca +20 is pipedream cuz of drop rate
fierce kayak
Yes.. emblems I always said is also a rich boy toy
winter drum
Is he a tank?
loud dagger
Since im working for ferael +20
fierce kayak
@winter drum late game
@loud dagger nice
loud dagger
I need 90 emblems for ferael +20
So support my petition about making the shop sell gold emblems with gold coins
winter drum
Argh why i keep getting late game heroes
fierce kayak
@winter drum it's fine. We all do.. it's RNG
frank moss
Tasi never goes off fast enough lol, also damn charming Ira she solo killed Estrilda
fierce kayak
@frank moss call on tasi?
loud dagger
If you want tasi to CC fast youll put call
If you want tasi tanks put drape
Likewise grace can do the job
frank moss
@fierce kayak yeah even with call, she gets 90% and dies, the line up
Tasi / Arden
Brutus
Shem
Lyca
Nem
loud dagger
Just because its pure rng
fierce kayak
@frank moss have to keep trying. And what K says
loud dagger
Dont worry i spammed the hell of ch 17
frank moss
yeah I am lol, wondering if changing Lyca and Shem is better
loud dagger
When i did one of those crazy steamrolling attempts
Since after got stuck at ch 16
I steamrolled entirety of ch 17 till mid ch18
But with a mauler setup
Tasi brutus
Lyca khasos
Nemora
frank moss
I mean compared to my peers that are 'stuck' here, im way underlvl'd. They got 200 shem and 180 crystal when im at 180 shem 159 crystal lul
loud dagger
Dunno
grand dragon
Help pls
loud dagger
Im at lvl 180 dust wall when i cleared ch 17
pale kettle
@frank moss try to swap arden and nem positions
frank moss
@pale kettle ? nem is to charm Ira
loud dagger
Nem charming ira kills est for him
pale kettle
@frank moss yes. Shes on top in your screenshot
frank moss
keep scrolling, my current lineup is written ^ , tyvm for the help though !
pale kettle
Ok sorry tried to read ^^
frank moss
Nem keeps charming gretz.. tf. didnt know that was possible
loud dagger
Nem has charm range of a triangle
pale kettle
Ok so. My lyca is L too and i dont like to put her in front because she s useless. I used shem in front of kaz and brutus or thoran/grezhul in front of estrelida
loud dagger
Its always three in her front
frank moss
I see, i knew it was like that for back mind, didnt know it was like that for the sides too
loud dagger
E.g. place nem back mid
She will try to charm anyone on the three
2 front 1 back
For sides
Same way
Its always the three near her
frank moss
well nice thing is tasi is going off for some of these tries, just after everyone is ded 😄
frank moss
haven't seen shem go off once 😐
loud dagger
Dunno how that feels tho . . .
Likewise i said before i dont use shemira
On campaign
pale kettle
What is your line up whitout shem?
languid monolith
I repeat my question :p who should I use for team?
unreal storm
I could really use some help on this level, this Brutus is giving me issues that and the spider chick
chilly inlet
Currently my team is Tasi Arden Lyca, Saveas Lucius. but now I got Shemira to Mythic+ as my first Mythic hero. Who should I take out to fit her in?
whole kettle
Hey guys, I can use 20 faction scrolls tomorrow. Which faction would you go for with these heroes? Is it wise to go for maulers to g et a legendary saveas (hopefully)? Or maybe wilders for Nemora?
Currently running Lucius, Brutus, Saveas, Tasi, Ira/Arden
thorn tapir
Last stage of chapter 14
ashen schooner
@languid monolith Shemira definitely, but you need more CC and tank. Brutus, Tasi, Nemora, possibly ElijahLeilah or Rosaline, Arden.
@unreal storm Move Saveas to Arden's spot and try again.
@chilly inlet Saveas.
@whole kettle I'd say Arden but Maulers would be okay too in your case.
@thorn tapir Can you post their placements?
thorn tapir
ashen schooner
@thorn tapir
Ferael
Lucius
Nemora
Tasi
Belinda
ashen schooner
@languid monolith Crowd control. Basically debuffs and sleep and charm, etc.
unreal storm
I beat that one actually, any advice for this one? @I abuse mods
languid monolith
@ashen schooner ah ok, thanks mate!
ashen schooner
@unreal storm Try moving Arden to where Saveas is to try to keep Brutus at bay.
onyx blaze
Tips?
ashen schooner
@onyx blaze Switch Brutus and Shemira, replace Arden with Nemora
onyx blaze
@ashen schooner thank u got it first try 👌
ashen schooner
thorn tapir
@ashen schooner
That didn't work but i made this and it worked
ashen schooner
Oh, glad you passed it. Congrats! Wasn't expecting that Rowan haha 
thorn tapir
He always comes in clutch even though he had no gear on😍🙌
unreal storm
@ashen schooner it didn't work but I just pulled a Brutus so should I throw him in there somewhere?
onyx blaze
Yikes stuck on 18-40..
ashen schooner
Yeah @unreal storm try exchanging him with Hogan.
@onyx blaze Shemira where Lyca is, change Tasi to bottom backline and switch out Arden for Nemora and reset battle until she charms Shemira.
unreal storm
Why not over estrilda, she seems to insta die @ashen schooner
Hogan at least stuns and gets some damage in
ashen schooner
Mmm, yeah she's bad early but I'd assumed she could take a few hits before she went down.
mental forum
20-4 help? Everyone getting shredded
onyx blaze
@ashen schooner my team gets deleted migth need some lvl on backline or better gear, thanks for the tips 👌
fierce kayak
@mental forum
ancient meadow
Got passed 22-44: ascend tier lv230 brutus pos1 (blade), lv240 2* ascend tier shem pos2 (call), lv150 rare+ tier arden pos3 (vit), lv200 mythic tier lyca pos4 (grace) and lv228 ascend tier tasi merc pos5 (call)
solid beacon
devout berry
16-20 help pls
eager jay
What's the recommended level for Savage Wastes? I've been able to get everything but the relic. I can make it to the final boss but Athalia decimates everyone.
forest flume
Floor 275, welp
ashen schooner
@forest flume Try to move Nemora to the middle and charm that Ira. I think that's what I did.
forest flume
Thanks, I tried that i think.. i'll give it a shot again. Feels like i need to be higher lvl to beat this @ashen schooner
craggy coral
Any suggestions? @ashen schooner
lament sonnet
Help with 15-38 pls
alpine valley
any help pls? dm
umbral badger
I need your advice for a good comp vs. Soren. Currently I re-equip my Baden with my Fereal's L+ & Mythic gear, and give Rosa the 2nd best mage gear after Shemira.
Your help is appreciated!
lament matrix
Stage 20-33, any suggestions?
umbral badger
Rosa is there so Lucius spams his shields. Baden also has Dura's Blade.
hearty kraken
runic tundra
@fierce kayak suggest?
runic tundra
From 1-5? @fierce kayak
fierce kayak
@runic tundra yes
runic tundra
I know now @fierce kayak I tested arena same team
exotic lintel
Should I buy Estrilda or Shemira from Lab shop. These are my heroes. https://imgur.com/gallery/fBH3ufE
runic tundra
@fierce kayak thanks
limber copper
Why is 20-33 hard, not even a boss floor
untold maple
11-16, best I've really been able to do was get into a 2v1 with Saveas/Ira vs Niru; once Niru downed Ira as well but he was too low on health to go toe to toe with Saveas
frigid dagger
@limber copper what is the main problem?
still oar
@limber copper
west stag
Is this where i can i ask for tech support?
sleek portal
TECH SUPPORT??? i dont think there's a tech support channel cause there's no lilith staff here in discord, maybe there's that 1 chinese staff here but he's usually here to make announcement. you're best to go #bug-reports to report bugs, but i dont think there's any platform for you to report stuff
west stag
Is the game down for maintenance?
sleek portal
nope.
ember bane
@ashen schooner tasi dies in a flick not work well
urban flax
For PVP defense which would be better? (all level 141, most e+)
- Lucius, Gorvo, Tasi, Roselina, Arden/Nemora
- Lucius, Tasi, Arden Nemora, Lyca
alpine valley
pls help
still oar
@ember bane probably charm Ira and root Arden and ulmus
gilded fractal
should i reset shem for kaz lvl 220? i feel like the cc from nem arden (or ulmus and arden) and shemiras mage silence is too much for my shem to handle
still oar
I don't think kaz+ Brutus DMG can handle ulmus+nemora's heal
Maybe try that fancy bear instead of brutus
olive swift
ancient oasis
This won't budge . I get melted
frigid veldt
Stuck here in LB tower.
pale kettle
You'll try use fawkes or rowan for rosaline @frigid veldt
olive swift
modest lintel
Lvl 15-40.. Luscious, kelthur, shimera, nara, and Belinda is my usual team. Tried many different formations and still can't get it.
forest flume
@modest lintel try shem brutus tasi (with call arti) lyca nemora
Also a good tip is to not spread your ascensions so much. Focus on 1 or 2 heroes for every faction early on. Except wilders, there you want arden, nemora, tasi and lyca
graceful granite
@modest lintel id do shemira, grez, tasi, nem lyca.. thats my go to team atm
trail gate
Any advice? Been stuck at 18-40 for a long while.
graceful granite
pretty much the same as @forest flume but i like that 5% hp a little more
forest flume
modest lintel
@forest flume what do you mean by with call arti.. sorry do bother you but thank you for the help
forest flume
Goodluck 😉 , and yeah @graceful granite grez is pretty good as well. For campaign i think brutus is better
@modest lintel your welcome, call is the artifact that gives energy so tasi can use her sleep faster
modest lintel
Okay, thank you 😀
graceful granite
yea no doubt brutus is better i just like that 5% hp for shemera and nem, but its pretty much the same team 😛
twin kettle
Hey guys, new player here. Which ones should I work on? Galus, saveus, lyca, and two more? Can get someone soon from labyrinth as well
graceful granite
easy saveus! he'll carry you to level 160
forest flume
@graceful granite grez doesnt actually add anything to the faction bonus. Its three wilders so 15% att and hp
twin kettle
What lineup should I work on though, or just hard powerfarm him to level 160
trail gate
@forest flume Thank ya! I’ll keep hitting retry till RNG favors me haha.
forest flume
@trail gate you can beat that wave i'm sure of it 🙂
graceful granite
@twin kettle just power farm him, pretty much put everything in him till he isnt usefull anymore
3 wilder is just 10% att and hp, but with grez its 15% hp and att
twin kettle
Ok thanks
forest flume
Wtf! I totally missed that somehow XD
mellow hound
Alright I'm stuck I've tried this level a few hundred times with different rotations
forest flume
@graceful granite good to know lol
ember bane
@still oar How to use the Artifacts
forest flume
@mellow hound you could try to charm the enemy ira with nemora
tame acorn
16-17 I’m getting creamed
mellow hound
I've tried that rotation as well @forest flume but i never got 1 enemy slain using that rotation
forest flume
Its 14-34?
mellow hound
35
graceful granite
@mellow hound i think its too early to go balls deep in shemira id break her down and get selveas and everyone else to level 160. then rock brutus, selv, tasi, root guy and nem. and if it doesnt work out just go back to putting everything into shem
mellow hound
Shemira is the only reason i beat 12 and 13, so i disagree 100%
still oar
@ember bane I don't quite remember and I don't have the SS . Prob
Call on Shem or nem
Grace on Arden
Sword on brutus or Shem
Eye on brutus
mellow hound
I'm almost 100% certain that 180 shemira > 160 saveas
graceful granite
yea but when all the other team is wilder she just gets shredded
mellow hound
I'll try that rotation
graceful granite
i mean all it would cost you is 20 gems to try
forest flume
I have almost the same team as you on my alt and am at 16-20. So you can defenitely progress a bit 😉
forest flume
You're welcome lmao
graceful granite
haha guess i was wrong them 😛
forest flume
I mean saveas is a beast and i heard he works untill chapter 15. But i'm pretty sure a lvl 180 shemira is already better, atleast for the majority of stages
graceful granite
thats fair i was just thinking getting everyone to level 160 and sev and brutus are an unreal combo, what level are you on with your main account? @forest flume
forest flume
Thats a solid combo, not much beats an overlvled shem at that point of the game though 😉 .
My main is on 22-20 ish, havent pushed campaign in a while
I'm seeing a lot of ppl stuck on 22-44 so that will probably be my next wall
graceful granite
oh nice we are really close then! im stuck on 22-28
wintry mulch
Hi guys, just started. Not sure which characters to focus on. Would appreciate some help
long pond
Should I upgrade my elite+ Shimera by consuming my elite+ Vedan and Nara.. I know they are both considered S, or S+.. I'm only on chapter 7 and don't want to make a mistake this early on. Thanks!!!
Edit:
See my heroes here
http://imgur.com/gallery/EkomD4I
graceful granite
@forest flume got any advice?
wintry mulch
@graceful granite who should I surround him with?
long pond
Support heroes like lucious, nemora ect
graceful granite
@wintry mulch pretty much who ever you want brutas when you get him and maybe adrean or however you say his name
long pond
Should I upgrade my shemira? I'll lose my only nara and vedan
graceful granite
@long pond id never feed a natural purple into another unit, late game youll wish you didnt
long pond
What do you mean natural? Sorry I'm new
graceful granite
@long pond so feed Vedan but not nara. nara is pretty good late game
long pond
I got you now ok cool so any rare that goes elite
graceful granite
yea feed them but natural elites never feed them
naive crown
Stuck on this stage
frigid dagger
@graceful granite
forest flume
@graceful granite you could try this, if it doesnt work you might wanna get a good tasi mercenary
slowmode on discord is annoying 😓
You can also try fawkes, i believe he coffins enemy tasi
fierce kayak
@naive crown try Tasi replace Sav position. Sav replace the boomerang guy position (forgot his name suddenly), Belinda replace tasi position.
naive crown
Boomerang?
still oar
Kelthur
modest sail
Any ideas? I’ve been stuck here on 20-44 for awhile...
frigid dagger
@modest sail not same stage but same enemies, try this
graceful granite
Eh it worked! Thanks @frigid dagger
modest sail
@frigid dagger that’s the exact lineup I’m using now. Tried every variation a ton. I may just be underleveled
I used a merc to improve my Brutus but no luck
frigid dagger
@graceful granite gratz :) @modest sail try arden in nemora's position too
modest sail
Yeah I think I’ll give that a shot, thanks
pale kettle
@modest sail try to swap lyca for arden
I passed this stage yesterday and nemora is fine imho she needs to charm saveas
Then frontline need to tank enough to get you into the magic circle heal/sleep/tortured souls
modest sail
I’ll give that a shot too!
sharp hornet
Could use some help on this one please
pale kettle
@sharp hornet swap lyca with nemora and charm either ira or kaz
sharp hornet
@pale kettle shem is still getting destoried before nemora charms
wraith barn
odd rapids
Really? Any advice on formation
twilit wind
Any help with my trash heroes? XD
sharp hornet
@twilit wind first make sure only 5 heroes are leveled as crystal will take care of the rest. Also your saevas needs to be way above everyone else. The sooner you get him to 160 the better the carry to like chapter 12 or 13.
twilit wind
Thnx.. im trying to get my Saveas to a higher ascension
wraith barn
They destroy me please help
frigid dagger
@wraith barn try top down brutus lyca top down tasi arden shemira, probably it will take u some attempts until rng bless u
pale kettle
@sharp hornet shem is not supposed to get destroyed so fast. Nemora charm in the first 2secs of the battle. Retry till she charme the right personn. If shem cant tank. Swap her with tasi
sharp hornet
@pale kettle hm still isn't helping. Issue is Ira let's off that arrow attack and can take shem out in one hit even at full health
wise stream
Did i hit a wall here? Cant see me passing this chapter/stage without ascending heroes. Any suggestions? Maybe an entirely different lineup?
pale kettle
@sharp hornet is she full mythic gear? Shes not supposed to get one shot by ira. Or you mean kaz
sleek portal
@wise stream lyca in tasi out, nemora charm either khasos/spider lady, arden charms the other 3, see if it works.
Also try to get the level 141, can choose to ascend your fodders first. level 141 brutus has power spike, same goes to every other hero.
sharp hornet
@pale kettle no Mythic gear yet just L+ haven't been able to get an Mythic yet
wise stream
Hmm ok, thanks for the tip @sleek portal
sleek portal
@wraith barn brutus always face kaz, lyca in front of ogi, nemora behind lyca bottom back charm ira, arden top back roots 3, shemira middle
muted blaze
I have won this battle but can I change something to make it stronger. First I didn't know how good Athalia was but she is good
sleek portal
@muted blaze lack of tank hero, reset all other heroes and only level 5 heroes, the rest will soon go to resonating crystal anyway, dont waste resources, the resources could be poured into your frontliner/dps.
muted blaze
Oh OK I am new
But @sleek portal then can't progress further cuz the lv 5 heroes and a new hero will come late or something
woven monolith
Hello. I would like help concerning lineup. I recently sacrificed my Hogan for Fawkes (because Hogan was at the level cap), and I have no idea how the heck Fawkes functions as a unit. Where is he best placed?
elder comet
Based on my team, should I buy a second Elite Nemora or a second Elite Shemira from lab store?
muted blaze
@sleek portal but the heroes that I use now are they good and on the right place?
sleek portal
@muted blaze you need tank hero in frontline.
@elder comet try to get 5 ascended heroes ASAP, that's your goal right now.
elder comet
Alright, I'll get Nemora then, even though I won't be able to ascend her to Mythic+ for months
sleek portal
@woven monolith if you're planning to use saveas for early game, its best to overlevel him until he's level capped. fawkes should be pout backline, belinda can be used as front line until early chapter 11 iinm.. dont use fawkes together with tasi cause they both CC the same hero at the start..
muted blaze
Only what I know is that Athalia is good
sleek portal
@muted blaze generally Str heroes are tank, you're like really super early in the game, probably like day 1 into the game so there's no saying which hero is right for you. you can probably use hogan for now but he's not like the greatest tank, but should be sufficient for you as of now. athalia is a p2w hero so if you're not actively spending you can forget about athalia.
muted blaze
Ok I have another account mabye there will be some changes
@sleek portal and what about this?
I have switched Lucius and Ulmus and won then xD
wintry mulch
Any thoughts?
Also, when ascending, how do I know which units are okay to use as fodder and I won't regret later?
still oar
Level 5 heroes only.
For early use saveas as dps and lyca+Arden as support.
Go to heroes>portraits. There are tiers from common to ascended. Generally Ascended tiers is not a fodder.
And as for Legendary tiers Arden and saveas are worth the investment.
You can also check the pinned messages in #classic-questions @wintry mulch
shy coyote
20-8
pale kettle
@sleek portal hey you were such a great help before. Could use a hand again. Stuck on 11-16 and 141 in tower. Tried the Saveas Strat. But he’s getting mowed down now.
still oar
Tasi call
Brutus. Sword
Lyca
Shemira eye
Nemora grace
The key is tasi. Tasi cast hers then you are good to go
Good luck
@shy coyote
solar saffron
Any help
shy coyote
@still oar I was trying random formations and I got rly lucky thanks anyways
topaz eagle
18-40
solar saffron
@still oar I’m trying ur line up tasi either dies or just doesn’t feel like using her special
still oar
@solar saffron that's the mature of it. You need rng. If she is too slow try put on better boots
wraith barn
Get taken out so fast any other ideas
solar saffron
Yeah that’s what I was thinking so I tried it 10 more times haha
supple stratus
17-36 beaten for future searches.
wraith barn
@supple stratushow you beat the one i just posted my team is better besides the lyca and i get rekt
supple stratus
My lyca has big dodge, so its helpful. Uhm i can check screenshots if i have still. What number is it?
coarse tree
I really need to get my to shemira mythic... She is the only thing you need after chapter 14.
supple stratus
Well, i got good equips, just not the best ascensions xd
umbral badger
Help! Nothing I do can stop L206 Silvina. I even put E+ Athalia facing her and she attacks someone else!
supple stratus
@wraith barn
Swap arden and Shemira i guess, thats how i didi it. But it was a tough fight
supple stratus
Np
stuck oracle
Heya. Last Voyage of Wonders stage. No matter what I do, I get absolutely stumped and deal no damage whatsoever. The rating up top suggest my team is better but I can't even get any of them to 90%. Any help?
compact ferry
Same problem can’t make a dent - is there a counter for that team?
wraith barn
Should i switch to lightbearer team?
pale kettle
Hi guys, I'm really struggling with a general lineup. Not for a certain battle but in general. What would you do? Really appreciated
stuck oracle
Shouldn't there be an unspoken rule of waiting until one question is answered to post another one?
brave dagger
@wraith barn I dont now, it's up to you, my mostly Wilder teams been fine till now(6-28) even taking on some higher leve(6-10 levels) higher maulers withouth too much issue, but I have a brutus and ulma in my front
vital needle
I'm only rolling deadies. I need 1 more for a complete dead lineup.
Please help me out isabell or baden?
wraith barn
@stuck oraclei feel you i really do nothing worse then reposting 3 times to be seen lol but most everyone sees it cause we scroll up
obsidian bridge
Guys are topped out for a bit so wondering if anyone has any ideas. Been stuck on 20-37 for like a week.
wraith barn
@brave daggerthis is like 17-12 it gets rough when they have faction damage on you
brave dagger
@pale kettle Nemora and Tasi and the legendary in back, Ulma and Seavas in front?
wraith barn
@vital needlebaden isabella can be used as a fodder( probally gonna get alot of hate but hey ive seen too teams in tourney none have her in lineup and i say tons use as food(
obsidian bridge
Baden is amazing I’d never fodder him
stuck oracle
Last Voyage of Wonders stage. No matter what I do, I get absolutely stumped and deal no damage whatsoever. The rating up top suggest my team is better but I can't even get any of them to 90%. Any help?
obsidian bridge
He carries all my guild hunts. Looking pvp is definitely not how you determine if someone is good
wraith barn
Isabella is the fodder meant to add,
sand kindle
Need pro help pls! Any ideas for 140 LB?
wise stream
Anyway to keep progressing? Blasted through chapter 13 yesterday but pretty stuck at the moment. Do i need some more levels for chapter 14? Or a different comp?
unreal storm
I've been stumped here man, this stupid assassin chick dodges and blocks everything then kills my whole team and idk what to do, please help me out here; thanks.
wraith barn
Any ideas?
brave dagger
maybe Nemora instead of Tasi and move teh bunny girl to mid?
pale kettle
@unreal storm use heroes like i say, 1-brutus 2-hogan 3-saveas 4-estrilda 5-warek(maybe that hypogenic character)
frigid veldt
Any suggestions here? It's been slapping me around for a week or so
pale kettle
@wraith barn you'll use 1-shemira 2-brutus 3-estrilda 4-silvina 5-(1 more graveborn character)
@frigid veldt have u try change spots shemira and lyca ?
@frigid veldt i should use 1-shemira 2-brutus 3-khasos 4-athalia 5-nemora or tasi or lyca
oblique phoenix
16-20, using Nemora as Silvina bait but I'm still not getting anywhere even with Tasi's ult. Anything else I can try or do I just need to get my crystal up to 160?
topaz eagle
@stuck oracle can you use eirron or a nara to pull the safiya out before she casts her buff? I found it made the impossible seeming stage turn incredibly easy
stuck oracle
Hmm, I don't have Nara but I'll try the borrowed Eironn :> Thanks so much for the answer, people seem to skip every second post here, haha
mint pagoda
brave dagger
any advice for 6-28
stuck oracle
Hmm, Eironn seems too slow, so the shield still goes up.
@topaz eagle, sorry. I tried to go with E Thalia, but she's too squishy.
pale kettle
@brave dagger use lucius and ogi for frontline and use saveas, tasi, nemora for backline
frigid veldt
@pale kettle wow first shot lol
pale kettle
@frigid veldt is it worked ?
golden stone
I'm stuck on 20-27, which is extra annoying since it isn't a boss level lol
Tried pretty much every possible combination of Shemira, Brutus, Tasi, Lyca, Nemora, Arden, Athalia, and Lucius
brave dagger
@pale kettle who should I set as 1-5?
pale kettle
@brave dagger first, lvl up heroes and 1-lucius 2-ogi 3-nemora 4-tasi 5-saveas
frigid veldt
@pale kettle yeah first shot lol
pale kettle
@frigid veldt 👌 👌
faint quest
@brave daggeru got brutus?
brave dagger
and I've got the absortion relic who should i give it to?
pale kettle
@golden stone 1-shemira 2-lucius 3- tasi 4-lyca 5-nemora try like this 1 more time
golden stone
Will do - who should I be looking for Nemora to CC?
brave dagger
@faint quest yes got him at level 4 or 5
wise stream
Any advice or just more levels? Went through chapter 13 without any big problems and in one sitting but stuck at 14-4 now
faint quest
Alright go
Saveas
Lucius
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora @brave dagger
brave dagger
I only have 1 Lucius and you can't use 2 of the same hero
faint quest
Oh i meant brutus #4 lmao
brave dagger
w@pale kettle thank you buddy, that Lucius guiy clutch bubbled the Nemora
indigo jolt
@wise stream Try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi
faint quest
Any tips or am i just way too weak?
supple stratus
17-40
foggy grove
i would try to utilize lucius with a more lightbearer heavy team! @faint quest
indigo jolt
@faint quest I would say you need to use either Nemora or Athalia opposite Vurk to take him out. Can your Shem frontline vs Golus, drop either Lyca or Arden.
golden stone
@faint quest I think when I did that I had Shemira where your Lyca is, Tasi where your Arden is, Lyca where your Tasi is, and Arden where your Shemira is. Although I do remember seeing a video of it done with Athalia in middle-back
pale kettle
Guys if u have lucius i think you must use for frontline
indigo jolt
@supple stratus Who does Tasi banish?
supple stratus
Ferael
indigo jolt
Run
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Shem
supple stratus
Lyca dying isnt my issue though, but ill try
wise stream
@indigo jolt cant kill vedan, best im getting is one on one with shemira but he’s chaining ults
bitter shadow
indigo jolt
@wise stream Not close at all to killing him before ult?
golden stone
@wise stream which Dura's pieces are your heroes each wearing?
lone maple
Anyone got tips for 11-16? Or am I just too weak rn
loud dagger
@bitter shadow could you reset dat silvina so you can place saveas instead ? So you can take advantage of lvl 140 cap
sand rune
This level (20-8) is a real jerk. Any suggestions?
loud dagger
11-16 is a wall so . . . Yeah kind of try to get lvl 121 milestone @lone maple
But the lineup is good enough
pale kettle
Best linueup with these doods?
lone maple
Damn 😭 lol tryna get my Brutus to leg+ just need more fodders rn and I need two more Shem hopefully from this sigil event
loud dagger
You might try with a nemora for that stage
Then charm that saveas so he kills ogi for you
wise stream
He has like 75% health when getting one on one, had 3 on one just now bit he shreds in his ult form. Shemira has dura’s eye, lucius drape, arden grace and tasi has duras call
lone maple
Ahh I’ll try that. Shem is good at 161 to replace my saveas right?
golden stone
A bit of a goofy idea but you could try to throw the Call onto Shemira and see if you can get an extra ult in
indigo jolt
@sand rune
Shem
Brutus
Rosaline
Lyca
Fawkes if you have.
golden stone
Yeah it's a bit silly but if the problem is that Vedan isn't going down fast enough it could maybe work. No guarantees obviously though lol
wise stream
@golden stone dont know if that will work as vedan isnt taking damage during his ult and shemira’s ult makes him gain energy superfast lol
loud dagger
@sand rune borrow a vurk
golden stone
my thinking was if your Shemira could get an ult off before Vedan starts his, but that's a good point that it'll make him start his ult
wise stream
Best chance i guess would be to have tasi and arden still alive to root and put him to sleep
golden stone
More CC is rarely a bad thing
wise stream
But he only has to touch them, even with lucius shield to kill them
loud dagger
More CC pays with abyssmal DPS
I run a wilders comp
A full one
And its not a good idea
golden stone
Who carries your DPS?
loud dagger
Basically full wilders will rely on Kaz and Lyca as dps
indigo jolt
You dont use eironn?
loud dagger
But wilder decks will end up stuck at ch 12
golden stone
Makes sense. I know Eironn does a bit but if the other three are all support then there's not exactly room for him
indigo jolt
Ah wait if its that early, hes not as good yet.
golden stone
yeah the cyclone thing does throw a bit of a wrench into things
loud dagger
Imagine this
Use eironn
~eironn pulled problem heroes
~gets OHKOed
~others follow
This happens often in campaign and arena
indigo jolt
Thats why eironn isnt as good till post 220- 240, where levels equalize.
loud dagger
Everytime i see eironn i always let him pull my tanks for an easy win
In arena ofc
In campaign its another story
Youll pull him instead
mild wing
@loud dagger Eironn when used properly = very good, poorly = very bad. Ive been using him in campaign a lot
indigo oar
Need help with this, it's 17-36 and arden root + 3 heroes healing seems impossible to deal with, it even stops shemira ult from doing dmg
wise stream
So no more options for me guys in chapter 14? Maybe other backline instead of wilder?
and 
set up
olive thorn
put nemofor face him and put lyca for give her more haste @indigo oar
then charm arden he will root enemy team, reset if root go on other enemy
wise stream
Hmmm really weak on the maulers im afraid and my crystal isnt 141 yet
indigo jolt
@indigo oar Drop Belinda Lucius Fawkes for Tasi :yca Nemora
loud dagger
I cleared ch 14 with a bunch of 
olive thorn
just run meta comp but don't be worried to food your lyca for gain some time to your lucius if is not able to tank some lvl
wise stream
Yeah but still need 6500 dust 🙈
devout berry
Stuck on 16-20
olive thorn
since your shem is already 161 there is no reason to don't run with her
loud dagger
My ch 14 lineup is
Saveas brutus
Khasos tasi
Lyca
Or
Lyca brutus
Belinda lyca
Saveas
wise stream
Yeah shem is what i build around, wished my licius was a brutus tho
olive thorn
@loud dagger help me that's to hard
indigo jolt
@devout berry
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
loud dagger
Smh vlab
olive thorn
wise stream
@loud dagger not? I thought 161 was the magic number for her and she carried me through chapter 13 without leveling up a single hero
loud dagger
Power spike of shemira is indeed 161
olive thorn
will see if u are able to run with shem comp or not
loud dagger
Where she will have the ability to tank
pale kettle
After 160 shem is tank and sorcerer
loud dagger
While shemira damage spike is at lvl 181 or 221 ?
wise stream
@olive thorn u mean this?
loud dagger
Oh its lvl 181 for the damage spike
wise stream
Ok gimme a sec
loud dagger
You wished to make silvina pounce on tasi ?
olive thorn
sure
loud dagger
Remove tasi boots or hat just in case
loud dagger
Tasi tends to have the highest def stat amongst mages
loud dagger
Sometimes im still surprised 
+ tasi over defs 
shemira
olive thorn
yeah union buff of tasi give al ot of defense
loud dagger
When im dealing with silvina stages
pale kettle
@loud dagger 161
olive thorn
against silvina atm there is always a dash on my nem
cause i'm not playing shem always
loud dagger
Nem being the lowest def rate amongst mages
olive thorn
rip shem ❤
pale kettle
I hate silvina at stages
olive thorn
power
loud dagger
Never used shemira on campaign so heh
wise stream
Frontline falls within 3secs so that worked. But didnt kill a single enemy (9 tries)
obsidian bridge
Hey y’all been stuck on 20-37 for a while and kinda topped out. Any ideas?
loud dagger
Why not try to charm da nemora ?
olive thorn
@wise stream tbh your sav is probably tanking more than your lucius
wise stream
Im willing to reset heroes if thats what it takes
olive thorn
can u try to downgrade lucius for sav and try with same lineup ?
loud dagger
@obsidian bridge swap places with tasi and shemira then do it again
Your key was rng till nemora charms the other nemora
wise stream
Sav instead of lucius. Level 141 for sav?
loud dagger
So dat nemora charms the golus for you
pale kettle
Cant go need help (i hate silvina)
olive thorn
yeah can u try it
wise stream
Ok gimme another sec
sand rune
@indigo jolt Nice, I'll try that.
@loud dagger I've got a Vurk, but only E. Just for the DPS and poison?
wise stream
Ok with tasi and lyca up front he does some damage but no change. Tried him as tank as well but vedan targets him (top or bottom) so thats an instant death. @olive thorn
Guess i just need some more levels then
olive thorn
then try to swap the placement between shem and sav ?
wise stream
No doesnt matter, on frontline vedan is going where saveas is (either top or bottom)
wise stream
Oh now vedan targets shemira but still saveas dies quick
olive thorn
btw what's the interaction of rosa against a silvina ?
loud dagger
@olive thorn nothing
olive thorn
it's like athalia, just dodge it or not ?
olive thorn
nothing means she take the damage or ?
olive thorn
oh interested
loud dagger
Nothing
sand rune
@indigo jolt The Shem, Brutus, Rosaline, Lyca, Fawkes lineup dies pretty fast. I have only a E+ Rosaline and E+ Fawkes at the moment. But could it also just be armor? Also, they're only level 172...
wise stream
Ok, so frontline and still no lucius?
loud dagger
Rosa have omnipotent status for 4 seconds mind you @olive thorn
loud dagger
Shes immune for anything and everything (aside root) within the 4 second grace time
olive thorn
kick lyca for luc
loud dagger
And yeah rosa still gets hit by fear
With ferael
The CC was negated tho
Which is kind of lol
wise stream
Went very close @olive thorn , vedan down to 25%
olive thorn
spam spam
simple helm
Stuck on this stage. Everyone dies so fast. Any suggestions?
wise stream
Still lucius in?
loud dagger
@pale kettle on your case place gorvo backline
Saveas brutus
Mage (one targetted by silvina)
Gorvo
Just remember who silvina jumps to
devout berry
@indigo jolt tried out, silvana kills Arden too fast sadly
simple helm
Am I just underleveled?
wise kestrel
oak lance
Any suggestions on what to use?
wise kestrel
is this one doable? lightbringer 65, fawkes and ezizh just wreak havoc on me
loud dagger
Nope
Need est
Facing ezizh
You can also try with rosa in front swap places with hendrik
wise kestrel
what does that do? interrupt him? hendrik also knocks him down and stuff. I had estrilda in crystal before but haven't been able to actually use her much
wise kestrel
I can't even get skills off, fawkes keeps taking belinda away and I have no other real damage
loud dagger
But ofc place fawkes on bottom so he dosnt get run down
Besides tanks are . . . . ahem
So youll end up more re tries for that stage
wise kestrel
basically ezizh prevents me from using any skills, belinda in particular is always missing (how come my fawkes doesn't kidnap as often as theirs), and rosaline just runs around with nobody to give energy to
loud dagger
Basically i run with this on LB tower
On ezizh stage i still remember my lineup
Thane lucius
Belinda estrilda
Rowan
And my lucius is just that time too
eager echo
Help with 14 38? I tried lotta combinations already
wise kestrel
so pretty much I have no chance then, got it
eager echo
With who?
eager echo
Ok imma try
oak lance
can someone help?
eager echo
@loud dagger i die b4 ogi is even at half hp
wise stream
With lyca @olive thorn , just chained the entire time, never had that result again. I need shem to ult, then rosaline but never got lucky again
Ill go for a few more levels, even if i clear this stage, id probably be stuck on the next one
eager echo
@loud dagger stil nope, tho i managed to take out ogi and kaz, wich is something i guess
wise stream
I could try tasi instead of lyca...to get rosaline to safety
loud dagger
Thats some infamous wall you have im also got roadblocked by that stage kek
I used
Lyca lucius
Saveas tasi
Nemora
And hard repeats
Most cases ended with arden killing everyone with his ult
I had to redo a lot of times
sand verge
Sorry if this isn't entirely the right place. But I've hit a wall and Idk what to do with my lineup, partly due to the fact IDK what to do for ascensions and therefore leveling. I've no idea what I should do for the future or what lineups to start shifting up. I'm using Saveas, Tasi, Nemora, Grezhul, and Hogan as my main team.
wise stream
Hmm can get to one on one now almost every time. There seems to be a bug with rowan that even after he dies he still heals with potions
wanton spoke
@sand verge you should def replace Ira with Arden on crystal and ascend him and get him as high as you can as soon as possible. That’s first move
sand verge
Crap, forgot to say who I was using atm. Sorry. I'm using Saveas, Tasi, Nemora, Grezhul, and Hogan.
wanton spoke
Then you need to reset nemora Tasi and Grez
foggy crane
Suggestions on who to level up to sig item lv 10? Brutus is 10 and shemira is 18
wanton spoke
Level up your top 5 highest ascended then those go on crystal @sand verge
foggy crane
sand verge
I should use my highest ascended as my main team?
foggy crane
@sand verge Only for levels, since they level everything else on the crystal.
sand verge
Ah, okay.
What about main team, then, and what to ascend? Atm Idk what I can even use for fodder for anything or if I should save or anything
wanton spoke
@foggy crane I try to unlock each one first then I focus on specific one. I would go with Lucius athalia or nemora
@foggy crane let’s be friends so I can borrow some heroe lol such a nice roster mate
foggy crane
@wanton spoke Send one over just made space. 4k more dust and brutus is 240 👌👌👌
foggy crane
@wanton spoke I know i should fodder arden to get nemora to ascended but I don't want to lmao
wanton spoke
@foggy crane don’t he is so clutch still. I still use him in chapt 22
sand verge
That the only ascension I should do atm I am taking it? And guessing to use Arden, as well, but in place of who?
wanton spoke
@sand verge if you don’t have enough room for Arden on crystal I would replace thane. Arden is a great hero for early game paired with Tasi nemora and Saveas.
sand verge
Understood, ty for the help
wanton spoke
👍
acoustic apex
hasty dawn
can I clear with what I have or do I just have to wait?
wise kestrel
try replacing tasi for nemora and it might work
wanton spoke
Make sure Tasi has less defense than Arden so Silv attacks her first.
hasty dawn
okay thanks I'll try! usually don't use tasi cuz she's only E
wanton spoke
@acoustic apex try Khasos front line instead of Vedan put Arden in the middle
hasty dawn
I cleared, thanks so much!
wanton spoke
Awesome! Gratz mate
hexed monolith
Can i make any goo team with those heroes ?
faint quest
Prob switch Thoran with saveas and that should do it but there's not Really a certain team for every stage @hexed monolith
hasty dawn
should I be pulling wilder or mauler for faction summon? because 1 e brutus is all I need for mythic
topaz eagle
I rarely use my wilders but I’ve accumulated enough fodder to start on a mythic for general gameplay who is more beneficial to upgrade lyca or tasi?
lament sonnet
Help with 15-38 please
misty grotto
Yes. Keep leveling Shem and then focus on either Brutus or Tasi
high lantern
Shemira isn't that amazing pre 160 level your saveas instead
gentle comet
I just got Brutus like 5 seconds ago lol. So glad I didn't level nah thing until after I rolled
I tried saveas for a bit and he just died so fast
fleet kernel
Reset your skreg & shem, take sav out of crystal, put Raine in crystal, level Sav and Shem, sav priority for a while.
high lantern
Yeah just noticed never level more than 5 heros
oak lance
Any help?
mild wing
@oak lance Your saveas needs to be your high level carry hero
cap him before leveling others, he is a strong carry it will help you.
maiden arch
I don’t know what I’m doing but this team as got me through multiple events and at least 8 of the peaks of time and has also got me to 16-13 in the campaign section. But they finally stopped pulling through and I just need help lol
high oyster
Any hero’s I should focus on or anything new I can try
bright geyser
20-19 is impossible
wraith barn
Been stuck all morning any help?
gentle comet
@fleet kernel why am I reset shem if im just gonna level again?
pale kettle
What’s my best line up? Thinking about making khasos L+, maybe replace saveas with someone? Any ideas?
wraith barn
Any help on what i posted?
pale kettle
I could get him to L+ or M if I sacrifice saveas. Would need a few more fodders and 1 more vurk to ascend him
flat heron
Ohh yeah I see that last one isn't E+
spring lily
I have my first faction choice card. Any suggestions on which to choose?
rugged carbon
replacing hogan for brutus tomorrow. Any good?
grand nebula
hey guys i want to run a shemira dps comp for pve and was wondering the best slots to put these heros in: shemira, lucius, twins, rosaline, and rowan
i also have raine but idunno if i should take one of them out for her
seems that i should probably put rowan in the center because of his potions? or does it not matter
ancient oasis
I'm stuck..any ideas?
valid mauve
Have been stuck here since the event dropped, done restarts for better relics, played around with different characters and whatnot but nothing seems to be working. Any help at all would be appreciated
ember bane
20-54 Victory
golden stone
Did anyone else have serious difficulty with 20-27 or am I just cognitively disabled that way
I hate getting stuck on non-boss levels lol
frigid dagger
Any suggestion? Stuck for 2 weeks now
ember bane
20-56 victory
pale kettle
Help pls 20-36
ember bane
@pale kettle i used thus method to defeat 20-36
golden stone
20-27 is seriously messing me up and it's driving me up the wall
Kaz just goes absolute beast mode on me every time, even if Tasi can get an ult off
Then on the rare occasion that I manage to kill off Kaz, Ulmus is there to finish the job
Anyone else here remember how they did it?
silent wraith
with shem sig item I didnt have too much trouble, go 4 wilders+shem, try to ult shem first then tasi
pale rover
@golden stone Have you tried using Nemora instead of Arden and charming Kaz so she goes beast mode on her own team instead?
golden stone
@silent wraith would you recommend putting Dura's Call on Shemira then? I have it on Tasi right now with Shemira using the Blade.
@pale rover I've been trying pretty much every combination of Shemira, Brutus, Tasi, Lyca, Nemora, Arden, Athalia, and Lucius imaginable, or at least I think I have. I may or may not be slowly going insane though so who knows
pale rover
@golden stone That will really take a lot of tries. I finished with meta team same as yours, but higher levels. 200 both fronts.
silent wraith
@golden stone could work, as long as she can ult b4 tasi, me video if you wanna watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooqhsvpk4I0
golden stone
Got it. Maybe it'll just take me a while then. Got down to Ulmus and Tasi just now. And thanks bidoof!
devout berry
Stuck on 16-20. Silvana messes up Nemora/Arden too quick for them to do anything
golden stone
Is there a way you could get Tasi's defense lower than Nemora's and/or Arden's? She can poof away if she doesn't get one-shot
vital lagoon
I can buy Nemora or Shemira. Who should I get first?
golden stone
Probably Nemora - Shemira is good, but she doesn't become practically indispensable until mid-to-late game.
warm blade
What are the twins good for it seems like they are not very important to any team
golden stone
Really really good haste buff, among other things
warm blade
Just seems you could replace them with any other support and be just fine or better
golden stone
I'm honestly not positive about it because I don't have them, but that's my understanding of them
golden stone
I guess just faction bonus? Dunno really
high oyster
Anything I could do?
modest sail
20-56. Any suggestions? I can still use a merc if there’s someone that would be really useful here
ember bane
@modest sail is that 20-56?
modest sail
@ember bane sorry, 20-52
ember bane
@modest sail go for
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Tasi must survive 2 sleep then Shemira wipe all
modest sail
I’ll give it a try, thanks!
fierce kayak
@vital lagoon I will get Shemira since you already have Lucius to heal.
First month you can get 2 heroes. So Shem first than nemora.
Then keep buying shem. Even if you don't use her now, you need to start building her asap so that she comes online esrly or be ready at 161+ soonest
You can read my pinned message at #classic-questions.
@warm blade good in guild hunt
spice flax
Need a bit of help on this stage
plucky flint
@warm blade the haste can be overwhelming. I’d think a gb comp with them would be a nightmare.
pale kettle
Any idea? Just got shem to 161, now I'm clueless.
fierce kayak
@pale kettle use meta team less Brutus.
Arden Tasi Lyca nemora: pick 3 out of 4 depending on stage
Shem and another tank front
You need Arden buddy. L+ 141 be perfect.
crisp whale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/498689382434209822/615742144136871947/image1.png
stuck on 20-33; any advice would be appreciated
plucky flint
@pale kettle reset ros and Belinda to 140/141 and get Shem to 180 ASAP. Your team outside of that is a little lacking in some key areas (namely you don’t have a decent tank and you don’t have an arden built up). For now you might run a shem thoran nara tasi lyca/nem team and see how that works for you
pale kettle
Who should I focus on? And what should my GB team be?
@plucky flint so I need to really try to get brutas and arden, correct?
plucky flint
@pale kettle grez then ferael is my vote
@pale kettle Brutus you’re at the luck of the draw, but Arden for sure. But I’m sure there are non standard meta teams that’ll work for you without Brutus/lucius
pale kettle
As well as getting lyca and nem to at least l or l+
versed kite
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I can't find a good set of characters/order.
fierce kayak
@pale kettle don't L heroes. Only straight to L+
@plucky flint you are welcome buddy
urban flax
My Saveas is level 160, rest of squad is 141, should I rickety cart Saveas and put it into shem (L+)?
timber fossil
i used saveas all the way up to ch16 and everyone was 160
crisp whale
@urban flax imo, no, shemira only really starts to shine at 161
misty compass
proud wigeon
vital beacon
Can anyone help I'm stuck at the last fight in lucent vault
vital furnace
Who should I take to 181 first? I'm thinking Rosaline, her 181 upgrade seems the most significant
vital beacon
ashen schooner
@misty compass In my opinion, you'd need another tank since you have Shemira and Estrilda, along with Rowan and Rosaline for support. Hogan or Gorvo would probably work best for you currently.
@proud wigeon Shemira can be used as a tank, but I'd say since you have 3 damage carries in your team to try taking out Belinda and find someone that can provide more support/crowd control.
@vital beacon Try moving Brutus to where Saveas is at. Do you have an Athalia? If so, use her in the middle backline to cancel Eironn's initial pull. If not, I'd say put Nemora in the middle backline and try to get a charm off after he pulls.
solid marten
A little help please?
pale kettle
20-45
hot topaz
Have you tried nemora charming tasi
wise kestrel
@crisp whale if you get an answer for 20-33 please @ me, I'm stuck there too
hot topaz
I would recommend YouTube cause that’s how I passed it
pale kettle
@wise kestrel i think this is what I used for 20-33
hot topaz
Your gb is on some sort of tight line, as u are not using shemira dps, so I am guessing u are using brutus
Brutus Lucius Belinda Arden/lyca/nemora estrilda, that’s all I can think of @gloomy terrace
wise kestrel
@pale kettle wow... I can't even come close with that, I'll try a few times, but I have pretty much the same team, thanks!
or maybe just weaker enough to make it tough, my brutus is only 180
gloomy terrace
I'm using Brutus Lucius assassingraveborngirl Belinda estrilda
crisp whale
@wise kestrel same with just having 180 brutus, holding off on feeding him saveas atm for maulers tower... arden and ulmus in this stage are such a pain
wise kestrel
actually mine is m+, I just don't have dust
hot topaz
There are more ulmus, 20-52, 20-54
wise kestrel
I don't even see ulmus as the biggest problem, it's shem+arden
hot topaz
Sometimes YouTube helps, if u just search it
wise kestrel
(not to belittle ulmus, that 4x ulmus kings tower wasn't fun, but still)
hot topaz
Arden is always a problem, but since chapter 20 they added tasi too, so shem can’t even ult
crisp whale
at what level would you say ferael becomes useful?
ashen schooner
Usually people say he's not that viable until 220+.
hot topaz
Aka chapter 25+
crisp whale
ahh gotcha, ty
pale rover
This is for lineup exclusively, guys. Kindly discuss any #classic-questions in the other help channel.
crisp whale
sorry, just continuing a conversation, but i'll move it out
wise kestrel
Actually maybe silvina is the bigger problem... is arden supposed to just die instantly in 20-33?
ashen schooner
It's not surprising. I used Tasi in that level. @wise kestrel
fossil relic
Tips and critiques please
wise kestrel
I have tasi and arden, hmmm
ashen schooner
@fossil relic Need more damage in your main lineup. Reset some of your heroes to get your resources back. Saveas would be a good addition.
wise kestrel
pearl oyster
Shemira can kill them all if she has more time
low lynx
Any tips 20-33?
fossil relic
which heroes should I replace with saveus?
wise kestrel
@low lynx matt posted his 20-33 team, basically that but arden instead of nemora, and swapped places with tasi
ashen schooner
@fossil relic Personally I'd say either Estrilda or Ulmus.
low lynx
I saw and tried atleast 50 times and no luck 😦
smoky delta
Any suggestions? First row is my main team, but should I replace any of them?
wise kestrel
we've been lied to!
fossil relic
Ok alright thanks
ashen schooner
@smoky delta Ferael can be replaced by Arden or Rowan at any point you may feel for more support. Ferael is generally a late game hero.
silent wraith
@wise kestrel trick is to use athalia to cc arden, nemo to charm nemo
smoky delta
Ah okay thanks! I was thinking whether I should use Rowan since I already have the twins, but I guess Ferael hasn't really useful so far
wise kestrel
@zealous flicker how can nemora charm anyone? silvina kills her in first second
silent wraith
@wise kestrel u need tasi to draw silvi with lower defense than nemo
me video shown here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6XmA0GLjEw
wise kestrel
hmmm m+ brutus and M tasi, but tasi shouldn't matter much... I have tasi with call and she never gets her skill off that fast though
ember bane
@silent wraith need advice 20-60 ty
silent wraith
oof
Reset until nemo charms arden, he will root grez and ulmus, you have the right comp already
wise kestrel
this is so dumb, nemora charms their nemora who charms arden, and then he vines me anyway
white ravine
Any advice? It feela like getting slammed into a brick wall over and over again. I'm wondering if theres something im not seeing or if I just have to wait for my squad to level up
ember bane
Ok I keep trying ty
fierce kayak
@white ravine try
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora (charm)
RNG for tasi and Shem ulti. Lyca Arden nemora buy time.
molten brook
Help for 10-36?
crisp whale
@wise kestrel thank you for tagging me! and congrats 😃
wise kestrel
oh god 20-36 arden ulmus kaz nemora lyca, this is not meant to be won
unreal storm
I could really use some help here, thank you
molten brook
@unreal storm - try Reset Hogan and replace with Gorvo.
unreal storm
@molten brook that did the job, you're an angel; thank you.
molten brook
Glad to help. Gorvo is a tanky tank 😁
ember bane
@slender bay up till hero LVL 160 Saveas is must so make any combo and use Saveas Nemora n arden with 2 tank front if need replace 1 tank with Shemira
slender bay
IS gorvo any good ? ( To have 3 faction bonus) ?
ionic jackal
@slender bay basically just build your team around your top dps saveas, your top 5 is fine right now or with satrana, I would use wilder such as nemora tasi or Arden if I have lyca
Gorvo is good too
Remember to lvl up your elite+ heroes or higher to break the lvl 100 cap on the crystal
unreal storm
I'm stuck again :( why is golus so dang tanky, not to mention the Brutus
modern ginkgo
can someone tell me what my team should be
burnt stump
fierce kayak
@unreal storm try to remember about factional advantage too. Wilders gov vs Maulers Brutus is game over.
Sav always behind Brutus for His roar effect. Avoid firepower at Brutus since he won't die. Focus top first.
Try:
Sav
Brutus
Arden
Hogan
Nemora (charm brutus)
No fac bonus.
torn lava
I could use some help ^^
still shadow
@muted blaze you should not level more than 5 chars
stuck nexus
I need help wif this level
limpid quail
@thorn silo 1-5: saveas, brutus, nemora, lyca, arden
torn lava
What’s the best hard mode lab wrizz lineup for me? Also... coral vow worth it for me if I use ful lb team?
gusty summit
@torn lava Shem, Belinda, Lucius, Saveas and brutus would probably be your best bet for wrizz
limpid quail
@gusty summit shem, brutus, wilder trio back
gusty summit
@limpid quail worked!! Tyvm
limpid quail
👌
still oar
@gusty summit
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi/Arden
Shemira
Lyca.
Depends on who is banished probably you need to charm either saveas or vurk
Oh already solved. Mb
@torn lava idk bout your relics
Belinda
Luc
Rowan
Shem
Rosaline
Rosaline to boost Shem or Bel, Rowan to make your team cat their ult quicker, luc for protection+ heal especially if he has his relic.
But I am not sure how it will fare against wrizz's fire
thorn silo
@limpid quail thanks i will try
solid marten
A little help please?
vast maple
Can I get some help too? for PVP and PVE (currently at 18-23)
rigid summit
Any suggestions for a general go-to line up? Been using Lucius, Lyca/Rosaline, Mirael and Tasi but struggling to progress rn
fierce kayak
@solid marten if you not using a better carry like Sav.. then overlevel Mirael as your carry 20 to 40 levels ahead of others.
@vast maple meta team for pve. Shem and brutus/tank front, tasi lyca nemora Arden Pick 3 out of 4 depends on stage. PVP I don't think it matters since we can't defend and we just whack weaker team
@rigid summit use Sav as carry. Build him to L+. Overlevel carry. Don't even level
vast maple
Thanks will try!
ember bane
@silent wraith i reached this far and Isabella n Arden wipe Shemira
oak lance
What should i use? Stuck on 11-40
wet warren
Tips ?
limpid quail
@oak lance saveas to 160 and saveas rosaline belinda back, brutus lucius front
loud dagger
Yeah brutus works too
limpid quail
@wet warren i think you should consider putting in your lyca to compensate the haste from the enemy
oak lance
@limpid quail till what chapter is saveas is useful to use?
flint birch
Hej guys an gals! I'm kinda new to this game and I'm thinking about upgrading some heroes to legendary. But I don't want to use heroes that might come in handy later. Could someone look at these pictures and tell me what heroes should be used for fodder? :) https://imgur.com/a/GuKo1bw
limpid quail
@oak lance he is usefull until you have another carry who is beyond 160 - chapter 12/13 or smth. but you will probably need him in the faction towers until level 50
pale rover
@flint birch Hi, ascension goes to #classic-questions. Welcome to the game, btw.☺️
flint birch
Oops! Sorry!
honest storm
Hej, any tips here,
flint birch
@pale rover Thanks :)
ember bane
@loud dagger need advice for 20-60 ty
loud dagger
How the hekk i cleared 20-60 ?
Wait gonna rummage my bizare lineup
Dis one yeah when i go full swing from 20-40
But smh i retried lots of times tho
I dunno if this could help btw
I might recomend the
Brutus
Shem
Trinity of wilders
limpid quail
@honest storm put saveas behind brutus and get him to 140
loud dagger
But instead i borrowed someomes nara to pull dat arden
delicate tendon
I know this is super early game but which 5 should i use?
loud dagger
Rosa at top most since
Ankhira tends to web the top most unit
Rosaline had immunity for 4 seconds
Belinda should be mid
Others as is
split tapir
Thank you ✌❤ will try it now
loud dagger
Comeback when ye failed
limpid quail
@delicate tendon top 5 make a good team with carry, 2 tank, 2 support, you may consider swapping in hendrik as tank and rosaline as support to get the faction bonus
loud dagger
Glad to help
@split tapir sometimes scrambling positions does the trick
And be mindful of some enemy habits
split tapir
Yeah spamming is key sometimes haha
loud dagger
Like ankhira and her top most webbing
Youll notice other stuff later on
Go ahead and press on
Ill help when available
split tapir
Ahhh thank you this is great community ✌✌😁
delicate tendon
@limpid quail in the top 5 i only have Hogan as tank? Who should hendrick and Rosa replace?
loud dagger
Estrilda has the ability as a offtank,
Not as durable as hogan but she does more supporting roles
Saveas altho hes not a tank literally his sustain tells otherwise noticeable at lvl 121
Shemira . . . . . Well yeah lvl 141 wont explain much
Those are the potential tanks should be you had @delicate tendon
muted blaze
I have tried to switch some heroes but Brutus don’t die and kill my heroes
limpid quail
@delicate tendon vedan can heal himself up and survive frontline, too. swap him with hendrik for a real tank and rosa for nemora or arden depending on if you need the heal or the roots more
loud dagger
Oh that immuno time
Ye just have to brace for it or
@muted blaze swap places nemora and ferael
muted blaze
Ok
loud dagger
Khasos could face arkadios tbh
I think scenario you die cus immuno time and spin 2 win
Remember that ferael goes to mid after his ult
muted blaze
Still defeated
ember oak
Their saveas kills my entire team?
muted blaze
So close but the Brutus was still alive and used his ult
muted blaze
Ok I can summon 10, have faction scrolls
loud dagger
I cannot say use arden cuz not lvl 81 smh
Idk if lvl 61 arden do the tric
@ember oak try place nemora in front of saveas?
Nemora
Tasi
Arden
Front as is
Your best run should be saveas gets charmed by nemora
Twice
Those hypo guards will turtle you to death
ember oak
Ok
limpid quail
your carry should be 20-40 lvls ahead of the rest of your team
winter arrow
need help to clear 4-32. got stuck
can khasos carry?
i saw an elite+ khasos(70) and E thoran(39) reach 5-12
loud dagger
Khasos do carry
Why ask?
But he gets over doned by saveas in terms of dps
Since khasos ax throw is rng
unreal storm
Someone please help me, this Kaz is going to make my brain explode, she's so dumb DODGE DODGE DODGE IMMUNE IMMUNE DODGE
limpid quail
@unreal storm maybe gorvo instead of hogan for the faction buff
unreal storm
I ended up beating it because namora charmed kaz
limpid quail
👌
upper wraith
turns out u need to have luck in this game
astral marsh
Should i say goodbye to arden to make A nemora ? (i'm at 20-9)
sand kindle
@astral marsh yea
muted blaze
No finally Brutus down and time is up and lost 😦
clear saddle
@strong flint Put estrilda frontline instead of arden, should be okay for now
strong flint
Thanks
muted blaze
Finally @loud dagger
warm rain
I’m really new to the game and haven’t really spent much time looking online for the best sort of strategies and stuff but could I be doing anything better here? Thanks guys
marsh sentinel
Hello people:) new player here and i wanted to ask if faction bonus really matters or should i use stronger units? Just want a strong lineup to start the game!! Thank you for your attention
strong flint
@warm rain lvl your brutus higher than the rest monsters hes op
muted blaze
These are my heroes not so high lv as you @strong flint
lethal rivet
stuck on 16-4 for a bit any tips?