#lineup-help

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oblique phoenix
loud sapphire
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Hi guys new to the discord. I’m stuck 7-32 and would love some help! Who should I be using against this team? Appreciate any help or suggestions, thank you!

torn elk
wraith barn
fleet kernel
plucky flint
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@wraith barn pls stick to this channel for lineup help
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca/shem
Lyca/shem

You can also try arden bottom if he’s dying too fast center back. Make sure silv jumps tasi

wraith barn
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@plucky flintyeah sorry i noticed was in wrong chat and went over here

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@plucky flintthank you

plucky flint
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@wraith barn no worries. I don’t really care but I know mods do 😃

olive fossil
regal swallow
uncut sapphire
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@oblique phoenix Try Shem/Brutus/Lyca/Tasi/Arden. That’s what worked for me

plucky flint
olive fossil
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Can someone recommend me a line up too? It’s been 3 days

ripe karma
plucky flint
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@olive fossil there’s a few things you can try. Get lyca in your crystal. Also reset raine and level Belinda up to 101 to raise your crystal level (you always want your five highest ascended as your pentagram regardless of how much you use them)

I would try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Sav
Arden

ancient oasis
wraith barn
olive fossil
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Pretty much got one shot by the enemy, lyca that is

wraith barn
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They kill me so fast 😆

plucky flint
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@olive fossil that’s fine. Lyca’s sole purpose this early is to haste then die

loud sapphire
olive fossil
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I still lose hard

plucky flint
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@wraith barn try a four wilder lineup, lyca and Shem frontline. Need nem to charm either their nem or arden. Need lots of rng luck

oblique phoenix
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Will try, thanks

plucky flint
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@olive fossil keep trying and see if you can get tasi to ult. Goal is to lock vedan with arden then tasi ult and kill vedan before he bats.

olive fossil
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Who do i replace with tasi though?

plucky flint
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Look at the lineup I posted above

frosty moss
forest maple
indigo jolt
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@frosty moss
I ran
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi

placid willow
honest storm
indigo jolt
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@forest maple Any reason why arden is in your crystal?
If you can take him out with hogan and level both up to 141, you'll be able to get 141 crystal.
Also, you can revert you're L Khasos.

mild wing
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@honest storm Put in baden, the shadows will eat sorens charm

plucky flint
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@honest storm baden and ros for thane and brutus

sharp escarp
forest maple
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@indigo jolt Okay I will revert and try the crystal

plucky flint
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@sharp escarp your progress is gonna go real real slow till you can mythic your shem

wraith barn
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@plucky flint ill try it

sharp escarp
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@plucky flint ye i know but dont have enough lab coins and I never find her

indigo jolt
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@sharp escarp You're probably better off dropping Shem for estrilda for now, run Estrilda mid back.

frigid dagger
plucky flint
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@sharp escarp I’d consider swapping the levels on your estrilda and Brutus and treat estrilda as your carry

sharp escarp
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@plucky flint any tip for lineup?

wraith barn
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@Patsy#8944 get destroyed but last longer so im stuck here

devout berry
plucky flint
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@sharp escarp not sure tbh. I’d play around with the three wilder + Brutus + estrilda line up, but you could also try a Brutus + 4 LB lineup (lucius, estrilda, Belinda, ros), or Brutus + one of the wilders + 3 lb

sharp escarp
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@plucky flint ty, will try

plucky flint
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@sharp escarp I’ve heard overleveled estrilda works surprisingly well as a carry in lieu of Shem but I’ve never tried it myself.

indigo jolt
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@devout berry Drop Tasi for Nemora, Run Nemora mid back opposite fareal.
Try till you get charm on him.

plucky flint
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@devout berry need nem center back to charm ferael, replacing either tasi or arden

jagged plover
mild wing
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put nemora top to charm the arden

jagged plover
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i think i'm just took weak. front line dies in 5 seconds.

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Hogan makes his way up and one-slaps everything.

indigo jolt
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Not really, i dont have stage picture but definetly cleared it with 200 shem 160 rest.

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Try
Shem
Brutus/Lyca
Arden
Lyca/Brutus
Tasi

violet pecan
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@jagged plover
Nemora
Shem
Lcya
Brutus
Arden
Try chemira to charm arden
If she is not fast enough put arden in front of arden and charm ira

wraith barn
indigo jolt
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@violet pecan Have you tried Lyca or Shem in tasi's spot? Need to melt Ulmus asap i imagine.

violet pecan
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@indigo jolt yes lyca and brutus melts down ulmus fast enough but somehow when i am left 1v1 shem i lost always

indigo jolt
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Which dura do you have on Shem? Might be worth trying different ones. If the rng in 1v1 always works against you.

plucky flint
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@violet pecan if you have a lineup that can get to 1v1 w Shem, I imagine you can win with just better rng.

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Might need tasi to survive to the end with you

wraith barn
violet pecan
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@plucky flint yea one whem opponend chem cast her ulty mine is good as dead

indigo jolt
jagged plover
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Aight cool. thanks. Nemora up top worked on 5th try

wraith barn
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@indigo joltyep so im stuck

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@indigo joltthanks

plucky flint
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@wraith barn you just need to try more. Your levels are higher than losts and mine were

wraith barn
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@plucky flintmy nemora is elite plus though

plucky flint
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So was lost’s?

indigo jolt
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@wraith barn if its an issue with not landing your cc first on enemy, switch around boots/artifacts.

violet pecan
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@jagged plover no problem

wraith barn
jagged plover
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Oh, not lineuprelated, but since yall talking bout artifcats. Who would duras blade go onto? in that same team comp

plucky flint
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@wraith barn put call on tasi. And grace on either lyca or nem

indigo jolt
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@wraith barn Fairly sure i had Blade at that point, but call should be on Tasi,grace on Lyca.

wraith barn
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@plucky flint im on viper marsh so close to blade

stable mason
wraith barn
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I need to redo do it i went out of order or vipers marsh

indigo jolt
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@jagged plover Blade on Shem generally.

jagged plover
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@wraith barn blade is in the top Left. the camp behind it iwasn't hard for me, getting to that camp with your full team still alive was the hard part

indigo jolt
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@stable mason Read the pins in #classic-questions
i would probably focus on raising the ascension of some of vedan,hogan,arden,saveas just because they are easy to get to L+, so you don't get stuck again at next cap.

frigid dagger
indigo jolt
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@frigid dagger
maybe switch Tasi and Shem's positions. to nuke down thane..

frigid dagger
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@indigo jolt I can kill him if nem charm arden but athalia one shot shemira with her ult

indigo jolt
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I checked, That setup worked with someone i know, just need to retry till lyca dodges athalia first move then see how it goes.

pale kettle
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Stuck on 12-28. Should I adjust my team lvl? And boost belinda and lower the others?

ember oak
indigo jolt
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@pale kettle Show stage, but generally yes your carry should be higher, but 141 is a good break point for a bunch of heroes so may be worth just waiting for afk xp and retrying in the meantime.

pale kettle
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@indigo jolt thanks. Ueah I figured I just need to wait

indigo jolt
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@pale kettle Who does Fawkes coffin?

pale kettle
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Khoas

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I can get them all to die but three of then down to like 10-15% health

indigo jolt
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Try replacing Rosalina or Rowan with Arden/Tasi, maybe even both.

pale kettle
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They keep killing belinda and lucius off quickly. Ok I'll try that

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Mich better crowd control. But still died haha.

indigo jolt
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Drop 1 for Brutus, put brutus in Belinda spot.

mild wing
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try it more times

pale kettle
jade wedge
mild wing
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each lineup should be run bare minimum 20 times just to see if working or your barely even testing the rng

indigo jolt
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Wait it out, only ascend if you can go straight to L+, unless to break level caps.

pale kettle
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Roger

honest storm
indigo jolt
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@jade wedge Nemora middle, rerun till you charm fareal. Lyca in tasi spot.

jade wedge
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Who do I replace Tasi with then? Because she freezes him

indigo jolt
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Oh wait.

ashen schooner
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Nemora will charm him to attack his own team tho, sometimes charm and banish stacks

indigo jolt
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Put Thoran in for Tasi,

glad elm
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I cant progress. Any advice?

wraith barn
indigo jolt
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@wraith barn Try nemora in for Ulmus.

mild wing
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@glad elm Saveas is stronger than Shem pre 161

forest maple
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Any more advice on my line up to beat this one? The advice earlier got me progressed pretty fair I just still think I am not far for my level

wraith barn
wide breach
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Sorry I know it’s only ch 7 but anything I can improve other than afking my E+ to 101? Just getting evaporated

autumn wharf
indigo jolt
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@autumn wharf Don't auto. You'll have to try cc her in animation windows with manual Tasi ult.
Might also be worth trying Thane/Fawkes in.

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@wide breach
try running both wyas around.
Sav
lucius
Nem/arden
hogan
Arden/nem

stray tiger
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I’ll be getting another Belinda+ tonight from the login event. Should I upgrade one of my light bringers I have now or wait for 2 days when I can do 20 pulls with faction scrolls?

fleet kernel
ashen schooner
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I usually do Tasi Lyca Nemora back, Brutus Shemira front @fleet kernel

plucky flint
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@stray tiger I would hold off. Belinda isn’t worth rushing to L+. Prob makes most sense to wait till you can get hogan to L+ because you can always fodder him later

ancient oasis
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Never mind I fixed it. Thanks boys .

pale kettle
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Hello all, i can’t kill Brutus, any help pls

wraith barn
ashen schooner
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@wraith barn
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Lyca/Nemora

olive thorn
plucky flint
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@olive thorn lol. Wtf is this? How do you have a 171 shem with lvl 61 crystal??

olive thorn
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idk

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just up my shem, why ?

boreal kestrel
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It shouldnt let you

plucky flint
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It literally shouldn’t be possible

olive thorn
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i'm stronger than the game

boreal kestrel
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Did you reset your main team?

olive thorn
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okay wait i up my team, i have some exp

pale kettle
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if he reset, he can't level shem again, right? just up the rest again lol

boreal kestrel
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Ya that's right frizzy

olive thorn
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just passed my lvl, advanced a bit

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her is a new

plucky flint
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This is a strange troll

boreal kestrel
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Lol

olive thorn
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😭 sorry, i jsut checked my older screen

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there was no lvl limitation by cristal when i started the game

boreal kestrel
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Damn

wraith barn
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@ashen schooner get destroyed

plucky flint
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@wraith barn the lineup you posted with lyca Shem frontline is what most people (including myself) used. Just takes a lot of tries to nail the rng

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Might be worth taking a pause and gunning for blade if you haven’t gotten it yet

olive thorn
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i'm not stealing, that's my account screenshot

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u can try it aswell @wraith barn

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Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Athalia

oblique stone
magic leaf
unreal storm
faint quest
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Id use
Ira
Hogan
Estrilda
Thoran
Saveas @unreal storm

unreal storm
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@faint quest I just pulled a satrana, does that change anything

torn elk
meager sonnet
torn elk
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for what?

sudden sparrow
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@meager sonnet Reset Burtus, Saveas and Shemira, put them on the crystal and upgrade Arden, Ferael and Warek instead, that way the first 3 will be able to get past their lvl100 cap. After that, give this comp a try:
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Hogan
Belinda

glad elm
half idol
pale kettle
faint quest
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mm mm Havent used her at that lvl yet so idk try her out @unreal storm

obsidian bridge
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Hey guys little different, I’m real stuck on mailer floor 80, just getting crushed. Any ideas?

exotic kettle
obsidian bridge
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You just need to time your damage right on them for when shields are down

torn elk
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not enough Skreg

fierce kayak
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@exotic kettle borrow a high Ascneded warek

dusky sage
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I can't beat it either

obsidian bridge
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Mauler tower seems to suck

fierce kayak
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Borrow a ascended tier Warek guys. As high as possbile

obsidian bridge
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Literally the top 5 on my server are all stuck on floor 79 lol

blazing summit
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currently using

Shemira
Grezhul
Fawkes
Lucius
Belinda

frigid dagger
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@obsidian bridge try brutus frontlane bot and everyone else lvl 1, it's not a joke

obsidian bridge
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Lol I’ll listen to anything will try now 😃

exotic kettle
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Its mauler heroes that sux

obsidian bridge
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Any advice on relic?

frigid dagger
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@obsidian bridge maybe sword

static jewel
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right now i’m using tasi, nemora, belinda, lucius, and ulmus but i kinda want to pair belinda and shemira but i’m not sure with what else

dark tundra
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Get lyca and take out ulmus.
And kindly stop creating legendary hero. U giving me heart attack.

obsidian bridge
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Man Brutus just isn’t getting anything off there @frigid dagger

pale kettle
frigid dagger
wraith barn
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Man I've tried this for an hour straight and i got mythic gear on like everyone of them but nemora so they aint week lol and no not full mythic set just 1 or 2 tops on each one

obsidian bridge
frigid dagger
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@obsidian bridge just keep trying untill rng bless u

obsidian bridge
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Lol ok ill go throw Netflix on and click a bunch

fierce kayak
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@blazing summit you should start building meta team.

Don't L if can't go L+ straight. Don't L+ and above if youndont have 4 copies or they not shop heroes.

Arden L+ 141, nemora from shop if GB L+ fodder not ready.

Pull wilder scroll

void otter
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Floor 202. What’s the strategy with Warek? He is a real pain!

ancient oasis
onyx blaze
desert basin
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@brazen relic Try Shemira/Lucius front and Lyca/Arden/Nemora backline. I beat it with that comp

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@ancient oasis
Try getting that Shemira ascended and to 161 as quick as possible! That's when she can start shining and frontline well.
Try subbing Shemira for Nemora in the back, and put Lucius in the front open spot.

minor spade
desert basin
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@brazen relic Yeah, I would try getting everyone to 160, that's where my backline was since they capped out.

minor spade
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How should I proceed with my party lineup?

fierce kayak
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@brazen relic Nemora middle back charm fareal. Reset if charm fails.

Key to beat this stage.

You will pass with Ascended 180 shem.

Try Shem and lucius/ tank front, Wilders cc back. Nemora as said. Drop tasi

last granite
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@minor spade mmm kinda have your priority wrong. You should've legendary saveas instead. He's a carry for early game. For now

Tank: lucius, ogi
Dps: silvina, khasos
Support: lyca/rosaline/rowan

loud dagger
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Ill second saveas since he can push till ch 16-4

wraith barn
loud dagger
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Id drop tasi to athalia dat nemora

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Still youll rng to charm that arden

south herald
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No athalia the arden and charm the nem

loud dagger
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Or youll drop nemora to athalia that arden like i always do

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Or like teemo said

wraith barn
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Nemora gets one shot

loud dagger
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Charm the nemora and athalia that arden

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Thats because of kaz darts nemora

wraith barn
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Maybe i need her legendary

ember bane
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Tower 237

severe escarp
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does shemira ult stacks if roseline ults right after shemira ulted?

minor spade
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@last granite so should I not use belinda?

last granite
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@minor spade belinda is a burst dps, meaning that you need her to ult to give the dps you need. If you can get rosaline to follow belinda that'd be great but rosaline would just follow lucius instead

minor spade
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Ah okay so then I should have silvina and khasos on the slots 3 and 5 and have rosaline on slot 4 with lucius and ogi on slots 1 and 2?

last granite
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@minor spade well comp always depends on the stage. No lineup is the best lineup. If you're stuck you can post the stage (and also your roster again cuz scrolling up is kinda troublesome) here and we'll help you

minor spade
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Alrighty and when you said saveas what exactly did you mean?

sullen surge
last granite
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@minor spade saveas is the best dps you can get on early game

loud dagger
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Youll want to change places of saveas and tasi so morvus wont 1hit him @sullen surge

minor spade
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What is savess?

loud dagger
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. .

last granite
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@minor spade sorry i meant saveas, the spear guy from mauler faction

loud dagger
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Saveas = saveas

minor spade
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Oh so I would want to get him powered up then?

last granite
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@minor spade yup

pale kettle
minor spade
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Okay good to know. What would he be dps right so backline?

loud dagger
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Saveas is my carry from start up to ch 16-4

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Before i decided to cling on ferael as my main carry

last granite
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@minor spade yes backline . usually he's placed behind brutus (if you have him)

minor spade
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I just got him

last granite
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@pale kettle

Belinda/saveas
Thoran
Rosaline
Brutus
Silvina/mehira

Between belinda/savess I'd choose saveas cuz he's dps all the time.

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@minor spade great! You can post your stage + hero list again here if you're stuck. We'll try to help

minor spade
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Thank you very much

unreal storm
pale kettle
sullen surge
last granite
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@unreal storm I haven't seen how satrana fights so I'm not sure whether to swap her from the comp or not. But imo I'd choose ira over raine because ira can slow enemy down and her ult can be critical.
Also try swapping estrilda and hogan position

unreal storm
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Okay I'll try that @last granite I was just using Raine for the tribal buff thing

last granite
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@sullen surge have you tried swapping tasi for fawkes? Not only you can get the same banishing effect, you get faction bonus too

Put shemira bottom and fawkes middle too

regal ridge
pale kettle
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Still get my ass beaten

last granite
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@pale kettle how many enemies left?

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@regal ridge try swapping nemora and brutus position

pale kettle
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Around 3, at the best.

warm blade
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I’m trying to build a decent team line up and was wondering if this could work into mid game

last granite
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@pale kettle hmm then try swapping shemira with silvina and if rosaline doesn't help anyone to ult swap her with mehira/ira

sullen surge
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Still getting trashed, the mirael ultimate is one shotting my team pretty much

last granite
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@warm blade not a lot of people would suggest using the twins in a campaign and gorvo sounds formidable but isn't actually tough isn't he?

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@sullen surge how close are you to winning?

sullen surge
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Pretty far off tbh like 3 left, with 60% hp

warm blade
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@last granite I love the twins for the haste due to I have haste pretty much the whole fight and she can link gorvo and luc health

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@warm blade but I’m still pretty new so it’s prob trash to ppl who know what they are doing

last granite
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@sullen surge try swapping shemira with lyca then. If you're using lyca it's best to use tasi since her ult is powerful

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@warm blade if it worked so far then your comp is probably fine. If you're stuck you probably just need tweaking a little bit

pale kettle
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I give up. Its time to level them while im stuck on heroes. Fuck

last granite
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@pale kettle it's fine, you can farm resources when you're stuck so there's that

pale kettle
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Yeah thats one of the advantages of this game, but i cant level anyone other then belinda higher at the moment. And i can ascend a few, but at cost of some good helpfull heroes

last granite
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@pale kettle you're definitely not level cap so the stage should be doable. If you want you can remove kelthur from crystal and put tasi instead and use her in the comp

pale kettle
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Anyone on to help me out?

sullen surge
mild wing
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@pale kettle Whatcha need

pale kettle
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@mild wing Im litterly hard stuck in everything, kinda confused on what i should do with my team also. Hardstuck in campain, kings tower, cant do the last fight in voyager either

mild wing
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@pale kettle Post a pic of your heroes and the stage you are at

lean ingot
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Help please

pale kettle
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I’ll get elite+ Belinda in 3 days I also have 10 faction scrolls and 10 more in 2 days

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@mild wing

mild wing
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@pale kettle Leveling evenl;y is a mistake. level 1 hero until capped and only then level others, keep him overlevelled as much as possible, saveas is good for carrying up to 160

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plus you have 6 heroes leveled? Reset the shemira and dump all of it into saveas

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wait no you have 7 heroes leveled reset the grezhul too, at the rickety cart in town, level saveas more. You only need 5 heroes leveled. The resonating crystal in town can be used to make 6+ = to your lowest level of the 5

pale kettle
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@mild wing when do I switch over from Saveas?

mild wing
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Now and keep the rest the same, he needs to be overlevelled to carry

pale kettle
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Awh wait, I just rickety carted 2 grezhul and Shemira now I only have have 4 people leveled and he can’t go past 80 @mild wing

mild wing
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I counted 1 off my tint was off, you had 6 not 7

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so level just one back to 60, then saveas

pale kettle
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@mild wing who should I raise?

obsidian bridge
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@frigid dagger did it. Was all about timing Brutus’s ult and I needed to use the energy relic

frigid dagger
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@obsidian bridge Nice dude, gratz

faint mountain
hybrid zinc
sly cave
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Is nuru better then hogan? Im trying her out but not sure she doesnt tank too well. Both at L+ atm. If i coulf use her better then hogan i coulf feed hogan to ascend lucius

pale kettle
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@faint mountain time brutus so u dont get slept by tasi, or try to use luscius right before so you dont take AS much damage kek

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@sly cave Nuru? you mean niru? If so, hes not really a tank hes only good for really heavy burst teams to execute people

ember bane
pale kettle
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@ember bane Fuck it dude shemira frontline kek

ember bane
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@pale kettle front Shemira dies quickly by Warek

pale kettle
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@ember bane If you put fawk on, maybe youll get super lucky and hell cage brutus and kill him omegalul

frigid dagger
ember bane
lean ingot
obsidian kindle
median crow
tired dove
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Any advise would be grand

last granite
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@median crow is fawkes a better tank than lucius and brutus? You also lack dps, you might wanna add saveas into the formation. I suggest

Saveas
Belinda
Rowan/rosaline
Hogan/lucius/brutus
Fawkes

median crow
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Brutus and Lucius are only Elite and they die in 2 shots right now for me. With my current comp I got it down to just Niru with everyone except Hogan left, and he killed them all

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This is the damage numbers I produce normally, with Belinda sometimes going into the 300k

pale kettle
last granite
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@median crow mm then

Saveas
Belinda
Rosaline
Fawkes
Lyca/arden

If you choose arden put saveas in the middle

high oyster
median crow
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@last granite I’ll give it a shot, thanks

last granite
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@high oyster I'd reset thoran and give the levels to hogan, a better tank imo.

Belinda
Hogan
Mirael/ira/vedan
Brutus
Saveas

feral goblet
median crow
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@last granite I forgot to mention that Rosaline follows Fawkes even though Belinda has the highest attack rating, don’t know if that affects the your suggested comp

tired dove
last granite
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@feral goblet overlevel shemira. Also go to #classic-questions non lineup related question. You get better answer and explanation there

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@tired dove why not lucius as tank? He melt quickly?

feral goblet
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Yea I asked there but got no response. Thx for the advice

tired dove
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I just recently pulled him

last granite
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@tired dove mmm might wanna try lucius instead of lf ira then. If he does melt quickly I suggest swapping ira and lyca position.

Also try swapping tasi for nemora and try to charm saveas/vedan

high oyster
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@last granite thx

last granite
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@tired dove a couple of backline position

  1. Saveas, arden, nemora
  2. Arden, nemora, saveas
  3. Tasi, arden, saveas
tired dove
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Got it. Ya lucy just melts

dusty cedar
misty grotto
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Use Saveas over Rowan

dusty cedar
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You mean swap them? They're both in my current lineup

misty grotto
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Oh yeah, I'd put Eironn in the Frontline, and swap out Rowan and Saveas

dusty cedar
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Ok, I'll try that, thanks

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eironn dies immediately lol

misty grotto
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Uhh in that case all i can say is try to level up your heroes since you're at a 100k power difference

dusty cedar
#

Yeah that's probably the only option lol. Thanks anyways

misty grotto
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No problem!

last granite
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@dusty cedar is lucius able to ult?

dusty cedar
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If he's in backline, yes XD

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I've tried some runs with Rowan in frontline instead of Lucius, and those are the runs I got the furthest on

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But yeah like Yeem Chaw said, the power difference is probably too much

last granite
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@dusty cedar then try that lineup but swap tasi with mehira. But lucius need to be able to ult tho so mehira can also ult

misty grotto
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I mean with enough rng anything is possible but yeah power difference is too much

dusty cedar
#

Holy moly that was a lucky run, I passed!! Thanks Shiya hahaha

last granite
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@dusty cedar rngeesus has blessed you today vedan360

misty grotto
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Congrats! Glad it worked out for you!

dusty cedar
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Thanks! Now I've unlocked the challenger tournament :D

queen field
pale kettle
last granite
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@pale kettle can you show us your full roster too? Edit your message and add the screenshot there

rose merlin
last granite
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@rose merlin try this

Saveas
Brutus
Shemira
Lucius
Nemora

Nemora have to charm saveas, if not then retry

rose merlin
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Worth a try
That's my standard lineup but I can replay till saveas gets charmed.

last granite
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@rose merlin or you can try the meta lineup too

Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora

Not sure about this tho since your saveas is not 160 yet and your shemira is not 161 but worth a try

pale kettle
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@last granite this is the current roster and i am waiting on cooldown to put nem and ros on resonating crystal

last granite
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@pale kettle mm okay you can try this

Lyca
Brutus
Athalia
Shemira
Tasi

If you need sustainability you can swap tasi with lucius

rapid meteor
rose merlin
last granite
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@rose merlin haha, congrats!

rose merlin
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4 days there

misty grotto
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@pale kettle I would just try to ascend more of your heroes because of the huge power difference
@rapid meteor Try
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Kelthur
Tasi

last granite
#

@pale kettle how close are you to winning with that lineup?

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@pale kettle then you probably only need rng. Retry it a thousand times :')

But lemme think of something

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@pale kettle have you tried changing lyca with nemora?
So backline top to bottom would be: tasi, nemora, arden

rapid meteor
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@misty grottoThx mate, after a few tries with Lyca (haste) instead of Kelthur I made it :D

misty grotto
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No problem!

last granite
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@pale kettle i was thinking nemora would charm ferael so he would charm his teammate instead but let's see.. If you got athalia put her against ferael to delay him cc-ing your team.
Combo with lyca+arden or lyca+tasi

rapid meteor
solid marten
fleet hawk
solid marten
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Is there no way to win with who i have?

last granite
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@solid marten how close are you to winning with that comp?

worthy island
solid marten
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Usually khasos and that caster in the back are the only two left alivd

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Khasos is pretty much the biggest problem, left at 75% health

last granite
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@solid marten hmm if mirael can stand it put her on front line in place of rosaline and swap rosaline with nemora. Try to charm khasos

solid marten
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Didn’t work, no charm n she died before ult

last granite
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@solid marten how about your regular lineup but swap mirael and rosaline position?

solid marten
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4/5 enemies lived but Khasos and caster were lower hp than before

last granite
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@solid marten phew then your lineup is probably already the best mate. You can ask again later when other players are more active ogifrown

solid marten
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Aye, thanks for the help

last granite
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@solid marten I contribute nothin u_u

spring torrent
unreal storm
last olive
lofty depot
serene jungle
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Help

last granite
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@unreal storm hogan, estrilda, saveas, ira, raine/vedan (whoever gives better dps)

unreal storm
#

Is estrilda good? She seems to always just get destroyed in like 2 seconds

loud sapphire
last granite
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@unreal storm she's squishy. If you want to change her with someone I'd suggest mirael. I use mirael as semi tank + dps until around chap 11

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Also just a reminder for everyone here, if you want to get help please post screenshots of

  1. Your heroes' list
  2. The stage you're stuck on

It's hard to try to help but we have to scroll back and forth because these necessary screenshots are separated. Thank you

regal swallow
last granite
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@regal swallow for early game always level saveas to 160 asap as he's a carry.
For now try this

Saveas
Belinda
Rosaline/lyca
Lucius
Arden
Belinda is mythic so she should be able to tank. I removed brutus because I don't think he's immunity is helping enough but dunno about that

odd elbow
odd elbow
last granite
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@odd elbow this room is for lineup related questions, repost that again in #classic-questions. You can get better answer there too than here

violet pecan
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@last granite looks like you can not help me 😁

errant schooner
last granite
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@violet pecan I wish I could but you're way ahead of me and I know things doesn't work the way I know when you're high leveled 😭

errant schooner
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any recommendations for chapter 8, as well as set up for arena? been going with hendrik and shemira frontline, then tasi, mehira, rosa backline

violet pecan
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@last granite maybe i can help you

last granite
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@errant schooner for early level always get saveas to 160 asap since he's a carry. If shemira can tank then that's fine to put her on frontline.

For arena you can use hendrik, fawkes, mehira, rosa shemira/saveas

@violet pecan yes please! Hold on a sec lemme get my screenshots

errant schooner
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@last granite does faction bonus not matter that much?

errant schooner
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been using fawkes instead of saveas for dps and mehira for the 30% defense

last granite
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@errant schooner in arena not really imo, sadly you're always gonna be beaten up by someone there (even if you're a seasoned player too!)

Mehira already gives you that extra defense so you got things going for you and hendrik+rosa+fawkes gives you 3 faction bonus

errant schooner
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oh i meant for just PVE

violet pecan
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@last granite faction bonus is majoe role after 18 chapter your shem is 200 so if you 4 mthyic gear on her you shpuld have been chapter 20
Tasi/nemora
Lucius/brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden

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Nvm if your lyca and arden is just elite... you need that root on estrilda and haste

last granite
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@errant schooner oh, for pve on early game it doesn't really matter that much. Maybe around chapter 8 or 9 then you need to at least get that 3 faction bonus

@violet pecan sir I'm already gearing my shemira with all reds and rngeesus hasn't blessed me with smooth sailing yet 😭

violet pecan
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@last granite try out what i gave you

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Or try to charm opponent arden and put your arden top
Try 100 times if needed, you will get it event

last granite
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@violet pecan mmm nope, still not working. I've tried like at least 50 retries and it's so hard to get good rng ulricry

turbid fern
uncut sapphire
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Have you tried Tasi ? Maybe reset your heroes to 141 and get shem to 180

violet pecan
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@last granite make sure you have right artifacts on heroes

turbid fern
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Yes, I've tried Tasi. I could reset the chars for sure but I wonder if that's gonna be a big leap to remain alive. Shem can do 1 ulti

uncut sapphire
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Shem 180 will carry you

turbid fern
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Alright, I'll give it a try then!

last granite
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@violet pecan I tried changing the artifacts but it's not making much difference since they all died in about 20 sec. I tried putting dura's call on mehira/tasi and dura's drape/grace on shem and it still wont work. I'm stumped because I got 200 shemira and she doesn't carry me as much as I hope for :')

twilit wind
uncut sapphire
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Nem
Brutus
Tasi
Saveas
Arden

If that doesn’t work you may want to reset your heroes to 101 and get Saveas to 140

twilit wind
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Saveas has reached the lvl cap but thnx.. ill try it

uncut sapphire
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Oh yes sorry didn’t see that !

runic drift
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Okay, i need some guidance. I have played for about 3 days, i have been told i got some good early pulls. Where do i take my team? Am i even utilizing good heros? Also tomorrow i will be able to receive a hero from the labyrinth (i understand shimira and nemora are the op ones there). What should i do? My little brain hurts 😂

candid orbit
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Can anyone suggest anything for the last part of the voyage? I think I’m going to need every day of the two weeks to try and level for it. Also, are there any relics that are must get?

eager jay
twilit wind
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So to beat the last part u just need to get good runes... sunstone and moonstone together are OP or Iceblade and Fireblade.. if u have one of the 2 combined it will become a lot easier.... i beat the last part with just a legendary Lucuis and the rest as elite and elite+ @candid orbit

uncut sapphire
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@runic drift Yeah you got really lucky. Your team is great I wouldn’t change a thing for now. Get Saveas Elite+ and overlevel him.
Buy Shem from the lab but don’t use her yet. For more early tips read the pinned messages in #classic-questions

candid orbit
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Thanks @twilit wind , I’ve got these so I’ll restart and keep going until I get some combination of those

runic drift
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@uncut sapphire ty for the information

twilit wind
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:)) and also i mean firebringer and icebringer or whatsoever... xD

uncut sapphire
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@candid orbit Try to borrow a good merc

candid orbit
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I’ll give that a shot if I can’t get it done with the people I have

dry smelt
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vedan and niru 1 v 2 shemira and i loses

wet pawn
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Nemora or Warek? Which server should I choose? xd Im starting again

dry smelt
candid orbit
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@twilit wind thanks dude! Got ice and fireblade and with a couple of tweaks to the team squeezed through

twilit wind
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@candid orbit you're welcome :))

brittle summit
hybrid zinc
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Should I reset to get better relics? Trying to beat the last boss in Lucent Vault

uncut sapphire
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It’s going to be tough getting better relics...

hybrid zinc
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I have a Mythic+ Lucius and Ascended Shemira as mercenaries but still no luck

dry smelt
unique python
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Who does silvina target? @dry smelt

dry smelt
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tasi

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but i mirrored it so that tasi wont get one-shotted by belinda

unique python
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That's good. Try getting brutus to 180 (that will already help a lot). How far do you get?

dry smelt
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not far.... no one else dying except silvina

unique python
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How many times have you tried already? Your lineup relies heavily on rng

dry smelt
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half an hour?

unique python
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Hmm. If you really die that quickly, you might want to consider leveling your heroes a bit more tbh

dry smelt
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is it time to mythic lyca using arden?

unique python
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Hell. No. Arden is extremely useful.

dry smelt
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i mean use E+ arden

unique python
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If you use e+ arden rn, silv will target him instead of tasi and he'll be useless

honest storm
dry smelt
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use saveas instead of nemora

feral coral
deep lagoon
unique python
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Try
Lucius
Saveas
Belinda
Rosaline
Brutus
Rosaline will dodge athalia's initial attack
Or just put brutus frontline @honest storm

deep lagoon
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Guess me being stuck is more of my ascension levels than line-up? am at 10-20

feral coral
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@deep lagoon - have you tried putting Saveas in the crystal? He’s super powerful until 160

deep lagoon
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No, not yet, coz I don't really have strong wilders imo, but I can try it

pale kettle
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You guys were so helpful before I thought I would come back for more assistance. :0 currently stuck on King’s Tower 141, the last fight in Voyage of wonders and 11-16. My 160 just wasn’t Saveas wasn’t doing the job anymore and I was blessed with a second Lucius so I was able to move him up the Legendary. So yes Helpplz

forest flume
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@feral coral try shem vs kaz, brutus vs ogi. Backline: top arden, middle lyca and bottem nemora

pale kettle
unreal storm
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I could use some help, this dumb Nemora keeps charming my Brutus then he kills my Saveas and the fat guys shield be block Nemora

topaz eagle
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Anyone beat this and remember how? Everything seems fine my shemira ults with full hp then all ezizhs explode and I go 100-0 instantly

uncut sapphire
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@unreal storm By the time she charms you only have 2 heroes left so yeah that will happen everytime. You need to level 3 more heroes so one of them can take the charm

unreal storm
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I don't have the xp to level 3 more heros atm unless I bump down the levels on my Brutus and Saveas @uncut sapphire

uncut sapphire
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Then you’d have to wait

brisk spade
last granite
fierce kayak
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@last granite^

last granite
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@fierce kayak aright aright aright lemme try it real quick

topaz eagle
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@last granite I just passed this level, shem, brut, nara, lyca and Fawkes

fierce kayak
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@brisk spade team for now?
Fawkes/Arden
Brutus
Belinda
Hendrick
Raine

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@last granite take your time. At the stage need more tries.

brisk spade
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Should I reset Saveas then? Since he has extra levels on him

fierce kayak
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@brisk spade you can for now. And level Brutus?

Do make Arden L+ 141 first. O ya.. Tasi/Arden can be use. But Arden easier to use at this stage.

brisk spade
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Ok then, thanks

last granite
fierce kayak
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@last granite g luck buddy. Athalia is very good counter to Arden too. You can mix around.

brisk spade
fierce kayak
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@brisk spade fawkes coffin who?

brisk spade
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Vedan

fierce kayak
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@brisk spade ok. Becos Arden is a prob too. Maybe
Arden
Gorvick
Tasi/Belinda
Brutus
Lyca

Or

Tasi
Gorick
Arden
Brutus
Lyca

Key is to kill Vedan first and root them before their Arden root you. And try till their nemora don't charm your Brutus.

Unless you have better dps hero to kill Vedan first.. else Brutus can be top

dark tundra
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@runic tundra
Try front Shem
And use Arden kindly post here too.

fierce kayak
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@feral coral
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi

robust saffron
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You guys wanna do me?

dark tundra
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@runic tundra
Try
Tasi/lyca
Brut
Lyca/tasi
Shem
Arden
U need Arden there cos there is a Arden enemy . Try to borrow if u dun have one .

fierce kayak
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@robust saffron your power more than enough man 🙂

brisk spade
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@fierce kayak used belinda instead of lyca and it worked, thanks

fierce kayak
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@robust saffron^

fierce kayak
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@brisk spade gratz

robust saffron
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So should I just use the same squad and go for it?

rapid token
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Progressing really slow, need some lineup help pls

clear saddle
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@fierce kayak hey! you progressing alright in ch20?

fierce kayak
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@clear saddle seems alright for now.. thanks 🙂

clear saddle
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@fierce kayak Its bearable with 220 shem actually. just need to mix around your comp a little later on
I got some ss if you need 🙂 just @ me

fierce kayak
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@clear saddle yup tks buddy

runic tundra
dark tundra
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@runic tundrau r quite delay man. Try to scroll up I sent the line up. The key there is actually use Arden to support your Shem and kill Hogan first. If your Shem can kill Hogan I think everyone will fall too.

runic tundra
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Saw @runic tundra
Try
Tasi/lyca
Brut
Lyca/tasi
Shem
Arden
U need Arden there cos there is a Arden enemy . Try to borrow if u dun have one @dark tundra

dark tundra
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Nine dun need help tues he's a pro

wet warren
#

You think i can do this one ?

still shadow
thin lynx
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I am at 14-28, am i behind on campaign ? And if so any advise ?

feral goblet
still shadow
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@feral goblet who has lowest def from your mages? Make sure it's Tasi, so Silvina targets her.

feral goblet
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What I’ve seen Silvana is always targeting Nemora so that units got the lowest def

still shadow
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Play with their equip. Tasi can teleport out of Silvina and survive. And now you're just loosing Nemora with no profit. Also Tasi should be far from Shem, so she have some time until Silvina targets her.

feral goblet
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Okay thx

ornate night
fierce kayak
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@ornate night ^ try this

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@ornate night should work. You have a lot more power than mine. G luck

ornate night
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allright will do!:)

whole kettle
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hey folks!
I am currently running:

Ira
Lucius
Tasi
Hogan
Saveas

I just pulled a Brutus and I can buy a Shemira or Nemora from the labyrinth shop right now, if that could make a difference. The Saveas is ready for an upgrade, but I'm not sure if I should sacrifice a Rare+ Saveas for it.

I would love to get some tips to make my team stronger for chapters 6 and beyond.

ashen schooner
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@whole kettle Brutus is definitely worth using as a frontline damage dealer and only gets better as you progress. I would definitely recommend buying Shemira first and possibly resetting Saveas (and maybe even Hogan) to pour your resources into Shemira. Regarding Saveas though, you'd probably be better off waiting and saving the Rare+ Saveas when you can ascend another one so you can have another Elite.

topaz eagle
whole kettle
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Thanks! So should i put Brutus and Lucius in the front with Tasi, Shemira and one more in the back?

ashen schooner
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@whole kettle Yessir, that one more can be a Nemora later as well. Wonderful CC and heal potential.

whole kettle
#

Awesome, I'll try it out, thanks 🙂

pale kettle
long pond
sullen surge
pale kettle
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@sullen surge two options. You could run with Lucius, Brutus, Tasi, Arden, Lyca. Or a good strat is to reset all and only push them to 81 and then buff Saveas until he can two shot anyone. Lucius and Brutus frontline and tasi and Arden for support

long pond
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Any advise for me?

whole kettle
tidal pelican
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@whole kettlebrutus

whole kettle
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Allright, thanks 🙂

pale kettle
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@long pond so I would recommend moving Shemira to the backline and Ezizh up front. You could also swap out Shemira for Arden as well for the added cc and heals

long pond
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@pale kettle switching shemira to arden

clear saddle
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@ancient oasis use Arden instead of nemora? maybe put arden at the bottom to make him root the khasos and saveas

desert basin
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^ Get those other heroes leveled up too if you can. Otherwise keep trying/rotating

clear saddle
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@untold nacelle first off, dont put your belinda frontline, shes gonna get melted by the maulers

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Since i presume she's your main dps, you're better off with saveas in her place and put belinda at bottom back

desert basin
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^ I would keep the Nem to charm Saveas as well, keep resetting it the charm fails

untold nacelle
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Alright. Keep getting melted. Not sure if thats down to nisfortune, inadequate gear or poor dura artifact placement but ill play around with the advice

ancient oasis
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@clear saddlethanks no luck tho

clear saddle
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@ancient oasis hmm okay then

sullen surge
wet kindle
turbid fern
frigid dagger
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@turbid fern top down shemira brutus top down arden/lyca nemora lyca/arden

fierce kayak
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@turbid fern ^ reset if nemora fails to charm fareal

golden spade
wise stream
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Just got to chapter 13 and got my shemira to 161, so was thinking i could cruise through this chapter but already stuck at 13-4. Am I missing something obvious here?

turbid fern
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@frigid dagger & @fierce kayak got it! thank you !

regal parrot
hot topaz
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@wise stream try putting Arden at the 3rd place or 4th

pale kettle
turbid fern
wise stream
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@hot topaz arden at #4 did the trick

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Why? Lol

high oyster
half ermine
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@high oyster swap vedan for rosaline?

earnest plank
twilit wind
earnest plank
lilac musk
pale kettle
mild wing
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@pale kettle Key to lucent vault is relic picking, team looks finje. If you really cannot beat it with better relics, it scales when it opens not ongoing, so in a few days of afk you will outlevel it

pale kettle
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@mild wing I cant beat Campaign or kings tower... should i just afk and wait it out?

mild wing
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@pale kettle if you are f2p there are going to be some points you get stuck, sometimes you just gotta afk a bit, it is part of the game occassionally.

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if you are stuck everywhere it may be the case

pale kettle
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@mild wing look at this account after 3 10xs should I just main this account?

indigo jolt
#

Yes. @pale kettle Cant get much better

mild wing
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its pretty lucky

pale kettle
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It looks like i cant put out enough damage with them though, which is kinda weird though

hot topaz
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@wise stream he is a center control, sometimes works the best there

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@twilit wind lucius brutus rosaline Arden Belinda

lilac musk
hot topaz
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Arden and lyca switch places or just switch 3 4 5

lilac musk
#

Arden dies instantly

hot topaz
#

Switch between*

lilac musk
#

Everyone except tasi dies because of charge and ira just kills whoever is infront of her

hot topaz
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@earnest plank YouTube might work

lilac musk
#

Arden root isn't rooting anyone too

indigo jolt
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@lilac musk
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

hot topaz
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Shem can’t tank ogi

earnest plank
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Eh, i did ssome weird stuff switched shem and brutus out then replaced brutus with lucuis

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@lilac musk if you have decent gear on lyca, try swapping shem and lyca

lilac musk
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I did everyone just dies too quick and arden doesnt get any cc off for some reason

indigo jolt
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Lyca is tanking ogi, lyca should tank long enough for roots... just need to try for rng on roots, adn tasi to tp to safety twic

mighty crescent
#

Is someone able to help me figure out a team for 18.40?

hot topaz
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Have u tried lyca and tasi, switching with hendrik and Belinda

pale kettle
#

Stuck on 11-16 and 141 in Kings Tower and that last fight in Lucent wrecks me every time. Saveas not tanky enough for carries at 160 anymore

wet warren
cerulean whale
#

Can someone help me pick my best heroes I'm new to the game

ashen schooner
#

Please post a picture of your Heroes.

warm blade
misty grotto
#

Please post a picture of your heroes.

olive junco
#

Am I going to have to wait till shem 240 for this stage? 20-26

misty grotto
#

I would suggest getting a mercenary Tasi or Lyca, to even out the power gap a bit

cerulean whale
#

How do I make this better and should I replace any Heroes with another one. I am new to this game so I might need a little bit extra detail when you explain.

ashen schooner
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@pale kettle I would say Lucius Hogan frontline, Shemira Belinda Mehira backline. Try that and tell me the results. As for Lucent, try using Athalia in the middle backline to cancel Eironn's pull.
@wet warren I would say try Baden Ferael Grezhul backline, Baden Shemira frontline.

misty grotto
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@cerulean whale I would switch around Arden (old horn dude) and Thane (black coat sword guy)

cerulean whale
#

Okay

indigo jolt
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@olive junco
Assuming silv still jumps to Tasi, switch Lyca and Tasi positions.

turbid fern
ashen schooner
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By the way, for future reference, support heroes should stay in the backline as to not get killed instantly. I would say do
Rosaline (broom girl)
Thane (sword guy)
Belinda ( belindakiss )
Khasos (dual wielder)
Arden (old guy with beard) @cerulean whale

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@turbid fern Assuming your Nemora is the first target for Silvina. I'd try
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi

silver vigil
#

How successful would a team based on summoning additional units to draw aggro be? Like Brutus, Numisu + Shemira, Baden, Grezhul all Mythic+ with signature items

mighty crescent
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@hot topaz yes I have tried tasi and lyca. They were my original team for all of 18.

cerulean whale
#

I am new to this game so I need a little bit more detail when you're explaining Heroes

turbid fern
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@ashen schooner got it !! Thank you ❤

silver vigil
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Pretty much have the cookie cutter team here I know, so not much improvement. The reason I'm posting is wilder fodder is slowing me down and I'm looking to branch out into some secondary useful units with late game potential. Open to ideas and suggestions.

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and like I posted above, possibly looking to try Brutus, Numisu + Shemira, Baden, Grezhul to summon a lot of garbage for the AI to focus because late game fights it's hard for tanks to survive long.

ashen schooner
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Mmm, Ferael is always a great choice. Eironn is crazy good late game, same for Baden and Kelthur. Grezhul's a fucking beast tho. So I'd probably say your best bet for another team composition is mostly Graveborns anyway. @silver vigil

silver vigil
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Yeah I have been waiting for more Ferael's, and slowly amassing more Eironn's too but still need 3 L+ fodders for my lyca, nemora and tasi to get mythic+. So I'm looking to other factions. Sadly I can't seem to get enough of any of the good lightbeareres to mythic any of them so I'm thinking I can get infinite grehzul's and numisu from the challenger arena store if I just stop buying athalia's which I've been doing up to this point.

olive junco
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@indigo jolt silv jumps to nemora, but ill try swapping gear and try your idea

ashen schooner
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I would say your best bet for Lightbearers is Belinda and Fawkes (besides Lucius). Belinda only gets stronger (like insane damage imo) and Fawkes coffin and debuff are pretty hard to top. @silver vigil

silver vigil
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I agree and thane also I'd like to have

olive junco
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@indigo jolt unfortunately tasi gets one shot is that expected? If i use arden she goes for him since he is lower level even if he has more defense.

earnest plank
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You're gonna have to hope for rng tasi teleports tbh

olive junco
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Wow that worked lmao

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Tasi died in one shot but shem carried it.

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Was stuck on that stage for like 3 weeks. Recently 3 starred shem which was a huge help.

wise stream
untold nacelle
fading jolt
pale kettle
silent wraith
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merek_dio been a long time

still shadow
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@pale kettle put Nemora against Ferael so he sends spirits on his team

silent wraith
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thats what I used but I had all 200

ashen schooner
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Hmm. Maybe rent a Ferael from somewhere. @still shadow Once Ulmus ults it's pretty downhill from there on top of a double banish and sleep.

still shadow
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Ferael instead of who? Was thinking about that, my E+ does not do much

old pendant
still shadow
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@old pendant , on that level she's not so great, current team looks descent

ashen schooner
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I would say Ferael in place of your Tasi or Lyca. @still shadow
@old pendant Pretty worth it especially late game. The faction bonuses aren't always a priority as well. I'd say though that your current team is good.

old pendant
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okay ty for help

high storm
worldly thorn
mild wing
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@worldly thorn I would try lucius saveas estrilda belinda tasi for the 3x faction, make sure saveas is max overlevelled as your carry. Check the pin regarding ascending heroes to L for future use

worldly thorn
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aight I'll try that

raw trail
pale kettle
mild wing
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@raw trail Stop leveling your heroes so evenly, you need 1 hero capped above the others as a carry, usually saveas is recommended up to 160

raw trail
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So focus on saveas til he caps?

mild wing
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I would recommend it

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He can carry the team until then

oblique phoenix
raw trail
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Ah ok thanks

clear kraken
mild wing
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@clear kraken Just about anyone on here will likely tell you your saveas should be overlevelled

nova siren
mild wing
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@nova siren Which ch/stage is it i can check the formation I used

nova siren
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20-52 @mild wing
How do you check that? You keep track yourself?

mild wing
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Without brutusw tanking saveas is very hard

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Yea the game doesnt

nova siren
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Meh ok, thanks. My Brutus is only mythic as you can see. Will keep trying I guess

mild wing
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mmm yeah no mine wont work with your lyca at L, she wont have enough dodge I used her frontline

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Id try putting tasi in front of lucius and shem as frontliners, that was lucius wont get destroyed

nova siren
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That god damn Arden rooting is annoying as well. Ok I’ll try that

frigid dagger
pale kettle
indigo jolt
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@pale kettle 20-8?

pale kettle
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Yes

indigo jolt
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Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi

pale kettle
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It doesnt feel doable sadly

indigo jolt
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People have got further with less. i think i merc'd a Brutus as mine is L. but can go find screen if you want.

pale kettle
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Umm, that would be great

nova siren
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Uhhh thanks @frigid dagger guess I’ll have to raise an Arden again ahah

indigo jolt
pale kettle
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Alright, ty

frigid dagger
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@nova siren yeah, arden is pretty usefull

brisk spade
fair sky
nova siren
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I just passed it @frigid dagger !! Thanks 😁😂

mystic barn
sleek stone
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fawkes purge

golden stone
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If I recall, for me Fawkes and Thane were pretty killer

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If you're going to focus on Thane, then Raine becomes very important for her buff

plucky flint
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@pale kettle 100% doable with M+ Brutus. I had similar ascendence with lowers levels.

pale kettle
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@plucky flint idk, shem won't even come close to ult

plucky flint
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@mystic barn I ran ros over raines. Put ros middle back. Took me a few tries, but I had a lower crystal.

mystic barn
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Yup, tossed Fawkes in the crystal, fixed it in one

golden stone
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I don't think I ran ros, but it makes sense that she'd be useful. Nice!

elfin agate
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should i make a legendary saveas - i already have shemira as a carry so i was kinda waiting until a brutus popped or sth

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feels like my team is going all over the place lately

mystic barn
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You want Saveas as your carry pre161 anyway

golden stone
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Yeah, Saveas would probably be decent to focus on at this point Jms

fair sundial
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What's a good Soren team for Shemira?

plucky flint
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@fair sundial depends on your roster. I run Shem Baden ros lucius estrilda (same as my wrizz team). Baden and/or grez are important for their summons to eat Soren’s charms

fair sundial
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Mm, my Wrizz team hits 45m, but barely gets over 12m on Soren

plucky flint
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I’ve haven’t hit 45m yet on wrizz (I’m real close) but I hit 20m+ two days ago on Soren (though not yesterday). I’m going to try running grez over estrilda after today’s reset

fathom narwhal
fair sundial
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No Lucius or minion summons, or anything that's particularly good for Soren

plucky flint
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My lucius, Baden, and ros are all e+

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Goal is basically to deflect/distract Soren while ros/Shem get as much dmg in as possible

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Warek would probably deserve a spot on your team. Maybe thane too

fair sundial
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The problem is that everyone not Brutus / Shemira dies within the first 30s

plucky flint
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I’d try a lineup with lucius, ros and at least one summoner to see how it goes, even at low ascendency. Think you should def be topping 20m with those levels.

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This battle only got to 16M, but i hit 20+ the day before

fair sundial
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Nope, 17.5m, everyone but Shemira died at exactly 30s in

foggy crane
indigo jolt
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@fair sundial Try Shem Warek Nemora Rosaline Belinda, Once Warek has ulted twice and has aggro from Soren and is other side, turn off auto.

fair sundial
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No one, you should collect fodder until you get more elite fodder so that you can get someone to ascended.

cloud moth
fair sundial
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@indigo jolt Nope, everyone died 30s in again

indigo jolt
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Even with call on Nemora?

fair sundial
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Nemora died first.

indigo jolt
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Hmm drop Belinda for Lucius, go double shield/heal..

fair sundial
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Out of tries.

pale kettle
indigo jolt
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@fair sundial You can exit app, if you really want to test out multiple stuff in future before the end.

fair sundial
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Oh, I thought it subtracted your attempt at the start, not the end

cloud moth
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So can I get help with a lineup for campaign or?

indigo jolt
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@cloud moth Read thee pins in #classic-questions
You dont really have a carry or overlevelled it. Most recommended is Sav but you can't use him atm.

cloud moth
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Nah nvm f it that’s too complicated

pale kettle
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any idea how to beat the lvl 60 faction tower for maulers ? the 4 lucius are waay to strong

fleet storm
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Manage to last about 5 seconds before dying, its an improvement but i badly need help with this bitch

wise stream
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Guys, agree that i pushed it as far as it goes or should this still be possible with some rngsus

fleet storm
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Thats an rngesus team. Dont give up. Just try to move them about until you get a winner

wise stream
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Tried like 50 times tho

indigo jolt
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@wise stream Switch lyca/shem positions.

gray stratus
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rowan is fucking op holy shit

pale kettle
wise stream
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Lyca didnt work, switched back and got it instantly. That rng eh?

gray stratus
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raine instead of arden

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@pale kettle switch arden and raine. then you'll also get faction bonus

pale kettle
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that was my first attempt still got eradicated

faint quest
#

Arden is doo doo at that lvl Bro, maybe put angelo in Crystal and replace arden for him for the heals @pale kettle

fleet storm
sudden sparrow
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Meta

faint quest
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Switch nemora and Lycas position for eironn to pull Lyca instead @fleet storm

fleet storm
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Ill try that !

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So pressed i just need that one tasi copy to make her mythic

jovial jolt
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(7-37 is in the picture not 7-36)

toxic solstice
#

Anything I should change ? I mean anything else than heros placements ? because I've tried all setups already lol (stage 12-7)

lone maple
#

Any suggestions for 11-16 or have I pushed as far as I can for now?

wise stream
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Well for whoever gave me the tip of sticking with the meta and let rng run its course: thank you. I went from 12-32 to 14-4 in one sitting

wise stream
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I beat chapter 13 with alot less levels as you did @calm hollow . Only had shemira at 161 and lucius at 141, rest 140

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Guess shemira really does carry

cedar shard
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Nee to make my team stronger but failing to find pick us to ascend him. What would be a good frontliner to ascend.

calm hollow
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@wise stream I die in 20 seconds haha I have no idea

onyx blaze
olive junco
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Is grezhul good at ascended level? He insta dies at mythic. Curious if he becomes useful in campaign.

kind nest
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@olive junco Grezhul is one of the best choices for Lab hardmode Wrizz

golden stone
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especially w/ upgraded signature item

olive junco
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Oh i dont have much trouble with wrizz. I have to ascend him eventually as i have so many copies. At 2 star ascended can he help in campaign? Ch 20

indigo jolt
plucky flint
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@olive junco he gets very strong later on, like 240+

olive junco
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Cool i just need two more e plus and then can 2 star ascend him @plucky flint

spring lily
#

Also, I'll be able to buy a hero from the Lab soon. Should I buy Nem again to get her up, or maybe Shemira?

timid stratus
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That was supposed to be opposite order

last granite
indigo jolt
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@last granite Did you ever get root on arden + both estrildas?

last granite
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@indigo jolt yes but the others isn't able to make any significant damage to the enemies. Might have to try a couple more times

safe quartz
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What's the optimal team to run with for Wrizz? I have most heroes now, and all are 200 (except Shem, who is 220) and I can't seem to find a good guide for what is the best

fair basin
cedar cairn
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@safe quartz Baden, lucius, estrilda, shemira, rosaline in this order

safe quartz
cedar cairn
#

Any kind soul with an OP Vurk, so I can pass this Hell floor 80 ?

slow kiln
steel moat
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I'm wondering if it's possible to pass this stage with my current team? If not i can get shemira ascended and 200+ after the sigil event is done so that should be able to help

mild wing
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@steel moat Which stage is it?

steel moat
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20-4

fierce kayak
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@steel moat it's always a good habit to indicate your stage too buddy.

Overall levels seems fine, just the M+ shem. Hopefully she is well equipped with enhancement.

If not, maybe need more RNG and tries.

Ideally should be 220 to pass chap 20.

mild wing
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I asked so I can check what levels i was 1 sec

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@steel moat I beat it 1-5 shem brutus tasi nemora lyca my shem was ascended but was 200 also

steel moat
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I see, I thought I still needed arden at this point, hopefully I'll be able to get past when I ascend shemira in a couple days. Thanks guys!

worthy island
bright geyser
fierce kayak
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@steel moat you still need Arden buddy.

haughty cloud
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@bright geyser im guessing you've already tried different combinations of Brutus, Hsemira, lyca, tasi and nemora

bright geyser
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I've tries so many things I don't even remember anymore xD

haughty cloud
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So try and level up, since your Cristal is 40 lvls behind

mild wing
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LKemme check what I used on that stage

bright geyser
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My crystal isn't 40 levels behind? wut

mild wing
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@bright geyser 1-5 brutus shem tasi nemora lyca. 40 behind the opposing formation

steel moat
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Oh? At what point does arden fall off? Mine is dying really quickly but that might be because he's only L @fierce kayak

haughty cloud
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Your crystal is level 180 and your enemies are level 220+

bright geyser
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Oh I thought you mean between my highest

mild wing
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@bright geyser At -40 its gonna be tough

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But it is doable, but will take some rng, you can try the one I used or even swap in lucius and put shem backline I might try

bright geyser
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@mild wing I've gotten pretty close a few times but Brutus on a rampage for 7 seconds wipes it all

fierce kayak
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@steel moat if you need a L+ Arden to feed others, and Arden really ohko. You can use R+/E+ Arden instead.

But what I meant is.. we still need Arden to root. Some says till around chap 22, some still using him further then that.

🙂

haughty cloud
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Any ideas guys? Any tank I put in front just insta dies

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And with the typical brutus, shem, lyca... Im missing damage to kill ulmus

steel moat
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Alright thank you!

fierce kayak
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@haughty cloud can't help buddy. Sorry I still at 20-33.

Maybe @mild wing can ^

haughty cloud
mild wing
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@haughty cloud What ch/stage is it?

haughty cloud
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20-36

mild wing
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Usually look at what I had first then adjust advice based on what they have so lemme look

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Yeah I had 1-5 Brutus shem lyca nemora tasi. Levels are basically identical only lyca was ascended which may be the dmg difference may not

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Might just take some bruteforce on attempts because everything else looks the same, but i know that formation worked

haughty cloud
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Hmm maybe i should work on upgrading her gear to get more damage

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Yeah shemira dies right after casting , lumus to stronk

mild wing
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did she get rooted by arden? may need to dodge that

indigo jolt
mild wing
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Ulmus stages always take me a lot of attempts, but the formation usually wins eventually

haughty cloud
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Yeah it might be just keep trying

tulip moss
mild wing
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@haughty cloud Could try to merc an ascended lyca but thatd blow your 1x/week

haughty cloud
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Better than just to be stuck HoganLUL

mild wing
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yeah I blew mine already but it got me from 46-52

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gotta use it sometimes, and if it doesnt work you still got ur merc win left

brisk spade
mild wing
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I'd be using saveas, he is one of if not the strongest carry until 160

brisk spade
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Not at level 120

oak lance
fierce kayak
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@mild wing is lyca A really that good? I have her copies ready for A kazified

slow kiln
mild wing
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@fierce kayak She is very good yea

fierce kayak
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@mild wing nice. Tq mate

mild wing
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@fierce kayak I usr her in like everything

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Haste is just too good, and she can tank with dodge against some enemies and do decent dps

fierce kayak
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👌 I think Ice mentioned he relies on Lyca front a lot in chap 21/22 now

modest lintel
#

Need ideas for this one. Been stuck for a while now

unreal storm
golden stone
#

man, i can tell 20-8 is going to be an absolute joy

bright geyser
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It gets worse 😄

golden stone
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wheeeeee

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holy crap, i beat it
thank you RNGsus

pale kettle
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Stuck on 11-16 and 141 tower. Whatever help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. 160 Saveas gets destroyed so not an option

mild wing
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it always gets worse

bright geyser
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@broken granite eYyyy

I finally beat 20-16 just now LOL the trick was to get Tasi lowest defense

mild wing
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@bright geyser Always vs silvina'

pale kettle
fierce kayak
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Hi buddy, we don't focus on building to beat one stage. We build for long run. I would say:

Pre 160, Savaes best carry, Arden L+ 141 best support.
160 to 240+/-: Meta team with Shemira 161+
Post 240: All heroes available in your roster to beat the stages.

Read up tier list at afkarena.net and #550491326479728650 Glourious Tier list to understand heroes better. Serius not a prority in invest and build now.

Pinned messages top right at
#550491326479728650
#lineup-help
#classic-questions
To help you understand game better.
Try:
Sav
Brutus
Roslaine
Estrilda
Belinda

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@pale kettle^

fallen token
void otter
north pelican
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Help on 16-24

frigid dagger
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@fallen token I won that with top down brutus lyca top down arden tasi shemira, maybe it can take some attempts but that comp works

prime birch
unreal storm
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Is this lineup any good? I'm having trouble here (asking again because no one answered me earlier) any help is greatly appreciated, thanks.

north pelican
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Does estrilda die quickly?

unreal storm
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Yeah

sleek portal
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@unreal storm seems like underleveled stuff. try afking for levels, do all possible tower levels for more dusts early asap then you should be good to go.. i'd level my dps first as compared to the rest 80% ofthe time followed by tankers, in this case i'd overlevel saveas first everytime.

lean ingot
fresh lichen
golden stone
sleek portal
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@lean ingot am i high or you leveled more than 5 heroes using your resources? need the answer to further advice

golden stone
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i hate getting stuck on non-boss stages but it keeps happening lol
warek pops right out of Arden's CC, then more than 5 seconds pass between that and Tasi's CC, and he just goes full honey badger and wrecks Shemira even with her ult running

sleek portal
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@fresh lichen try swapping nemora in tasi out, put arden lyca nemora from top to bottom, nemora must charm either saveas/brutus/vurk, arden should lock other 3 to buy them for shemira. your dura artifact's usage could affect the outcome as well.

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@golden stone if you're certain you're not using lucius for most part in chapter 20, just reset lucius to 180 and dump all the resources to get shemira 220, if i were you i'll try swapping tasi out for nemora's charm at Vurk since vurk's poison destroys Golus very fast, then i'll put arden bottom back to lock 3 heroes. then i'll put dura call on shemira to hope for early ulti. im not 100% it will work or not tho, just my opinion.

bright geyser
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@sleek portal Do you remember 20-19 xD

golden stone
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I'll give it a shot

sleek portal
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@bright geyser i used Ayuh Le and Vitaliy Belka's youtube videos to finish chapter 20 in 6 days, the only mercenary i used i think was Estrilda in one of the 20-3x.. you could give it a try.

bright geyser
fresh lichen
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Yeah, I have the same problem where my backline gets destroyed after one khasos axe

north pelican
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16-24 help

pale kettle
north pelican
sleek portal
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@bright geyser if i remember correctly, i used brutus against ogi, nemora middle back to charm opponent nemora to charm Ira(she wrecks the khasos in front) then arden first root before he dies, then the rest is shemira goes ham

golden stone
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@sleek portal Oddly enough, I passed it on a run where Nemora charmed Golus instead of Vurk lol. The formation you suggested worked though!

sleek portal
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@golden stone i think your lineup could smoke chpter 20 if 1 more hero gets to 200 in the 5herolineup

bright geyser
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Should I get Shemira to 220 or Brutus / Lucius to 200?

sleek portal
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definitely shemira 220 first, the power rating increases like crazy from 200-220

bright geyser
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10K more dust T_T

sleek portal
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@bright geyser your best bet is try to go faction tower level 75, and finish all the remaining PoT for max dusts at your level

bright geyser
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My Nemora refuses to charm enemy Nemora... Legit every single time it goes for Khaz

dreamy mesa
sleek portal
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@dreamy mesa it wont change any outcome tbh, i wouldnt ascend if i were you

dusty cedar
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Holy moly never mind. Just passed on a super lucky run

north pelican
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Any help with mine?

golden stone
#

Man I wish there was a better way to deal with enemy ascended Silvina than either sacrifice someone or keep Tasi's defense low and hope she doesn't get one-shot

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also i hate that "enemy ascended Silvina" is a thing. she's a legendary+ hero, dammit!

pale kettle
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rowan sometimes counter silvina. she can get blinked on and still survive, sometimes even sustain

round needle
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What should I do with this.

sleek portal
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@round needle nothing, unless you're certain you can bring either lucius/belinda straight to A0

bitter ermine
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Damn you right

round needle
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Is it worth making Rosa leg+

sleek portal
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@north pelican try to use arden instead of rowan and see if it helps, arden usually helps root 3 and nemora locks 1(brutus/saveas/vurk best charm target), not sure if it works cause you're lacking 1 front tank and not sure how high of a dodge your lyca has against opponent.

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@round needle rosalind is a very very very good hero, if you use her very often you should bring her to L+, im assuming you're p2w player judging by the very early M heroes you have. so if i were you i'll L+ rowan, she's awesome in guild hunt too

placid hawk
foggy crane
sleek portal
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@foggy crane im probably not the best person to advice cause we're probably in the same chapters or so. but i'd say kaz, then again it depends on who you get to 8 copies first.

foggy crane
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@sleek portal I just hit ch22. Trying to get a 5 man for each faction atm

round needle
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Thanks @sleek portal

runic drift
sleek portal
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@placid hawk you're considered severely overlevel atm so you'll probably find anything works. you'll come to a point where you'll realize athalia/lucius will become useless unless ascended to a higher level(they're both very ascension depdnant), definitely replace mirael to someone else asap(rosalind comes to mind). saveas can be used up till ch14/15 then needs replacement

pale kettle
sleek portal
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@pale kettle reset your skreg, useless hero, also you dont need to use resources on more than 5 heroes. use the resources to level saveas or tanks

placid hawk
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@sleek portal thank you for the advice appreciate one question what do you mean when you say in considered severely overlevel

sleek portal
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@round needle sorry im talking about rosalind not rowan lol, rowan good hero too, you were asking about rosalind and my opinion is yes rosalind very good hero in campaign and guild hunt

pale kettle
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Only lvled 5 rest in crystal, even if I replace him I get bullied down so fast because of the Brutus :/ @sleek portal

golden stone
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@placid hawk your heroes are high enough level compared to the content you're facing that almost anything should work at this point - once you get to higher-level content, you'll have to worry more about team composition, but at this point it's not essential

sleek portal
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@placid hawk USUALLY most of the time(90-95%), people go in to campaign fighting against opponent having 1-25 levels higher than their own. in your case you already have 3 heroes at 140 fighting against 127s.

placid hawk
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Ooh okay thank you appreciate it very much

sleek portal
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@pale kettle sorry went blind on belinda's colour lol. but you SHOULD be clearing the level cause i started an alt 5 days ago and have the EXACT lineup as your hero and im at chapter 7 now.... mind showing the enemy lineup screenshot?

round needle
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@sleek portal ya I made Rosalind leg+ I never really used her but I can see why shed be strong

golden stone
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she's especially good in Wrizz fights

pale kettle
placid hawk
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@sleek portal sorry one more question so I'm replacing mirael with rosalind is it fine if I just reset mirael then

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Or should I leave her for th crystal thingie

sleek portal
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dont use hogan, use brutus to face brutus, saveas behind brutus, belinda can be middle back or top back, put nemora in for heal or ardenlevel81 for root, hopefully it works, but generally just use 1 more support/dps backline and replace the hogan @pale kettle

golden stone
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Mirael is pretty decent until midgame, I'd put her in the crystal

sleek portal
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@placid hawk currently you need mirael's level140 so you dont get level capped at your ascensions, i'd say leave her at where she belong until you need to go further than the level140 cap, your goal right now is to bump everyone to 121(mini power spike there) and decide which 5 heroes to go L+ ASAP.

placid hawk
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Okay thanks guys appreciate it

frank moss
pale kettle
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@Forever F2P (S62 21-21) thanks! Will try

outer rapids
sleek portal
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@outer rapids no, arden useful until chapter 20, in chapter 20 you can fodder him, and use E+ or R+ arden

outer rapids
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E+ or R+?

golden stone
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elite+ or rare+

outer rapids
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oh, also should I start using my regular L Belinda and sacrifice my L+ to get Lucius higher?

golden stone
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Belinda is probably worth hanging onto imo

outer rapids
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even if I have another one lvl 1?

sleek portal
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@outer rapids my advice for you is, reset farael, level nemora to 160, then when your 2nd arden gets to L+ feed him to nemora(only do this when you're level capped at 160)

golden stone
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It's a pain in the rear to pull more of her

outer rapids
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I don't really have anything to replace Ferael though, maybe I should start using Grezhul?

sleek portal
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basically you only wanna ascend further than L+ if 1. you're level capped 2. you're certain you can bring that hero to A0 later on(which requires 4 Elite copies of whoever)

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@outer rapids reset farael and level nemora is just to not get stuck at level 140, you can still use farael as you please

outer rapids
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But either way both Ferael and Grezhul are... work in progresses, but I love Ferael so far

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Oh I can get Nemora to 160 probably without resetting him, I just got her to L+ hence why I'm asking

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90 essence short... guess i'll do this tomorrow lol

pearl oyster
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anyone can help?

copper moon
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Try

Nemora/Arden
Brutus
Athalia
Lyca
Shemira

royal latch
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put shemira on front line so she gains more energy faster? switch her and brutus? sadly you dont have fawkes

pearl oyster
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i can get mercs

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passed it :)

fierce kayak
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@frank moss shem never face ogi. Try
Tasi (Silv bait, remove her armor if needed)
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora (charm)

Bottom heroes buy time for Shem + tasi ulti.

frank moss
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thanks @fierce kayak i'll try in a bit 🙂

balmy stirrup
acoustic hawk
balmy stirrup
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Am i doing something horribly wrong? My lineup currently is
The first four + Belinda. Something I should swap? I have it that way to get the bonus for 3 light guys - I know brutus is a charm, but i dont know what to swap without getting rid of the bonus

acoustic hawk
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I'm not too qualified to help but from my experience here, Saveas is a HUGE life saver and worth putting time into. he's like the best unit early/mid

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He has 1v5'd more times than I can count

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@balmy stirrup And sometimes the bonus doesn't matter, Arden is pretty good with Nemora, what stage are you on?

balmy stirrup
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@acoustic hawk: currently 6-24 - and a bit stuck. the brutus goes through my squad like a warm knife through butter

acoustic hawk
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Well you beat the hard one at least, try
Belinda
Shemira
Arden
#2 on your hero list
Nemora

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And just readjust the formation so that nemora is on whatever side Brutus is on, you might have to keep retrying until nemora charms him @balmy stirrup

balmy stirrup
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just worked 😄

acoustic hawk
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Crowd control is pretty busted and will get you through a lot of the tough ones, sometimes retrying is all you can do and hope you get lucky.

balmy stirrup
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i have shemira leveled so hard that she just resets her health all the time. putting her in front has helped to get the ult off. had her in the back and she got cc'ed and then killed by brutus, before she could get the ult off. Thank you very much @acoustic hawk

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any particular heroes i should focus in that list of mine? or am i doing everything right by accident? 😄

small acorn
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@balmy stirrup well meta heros are

Shemira, brutus, tasi, nemora, arden, lyca

acoustic hawk
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Well the fact that you have a legendary that early into the game, that's going to make a big difference, just try to get Saveas up there and he'll be one of your best in the backline.

small acorn
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@balmy stirrup saveas can be used instead of shemira until lvl 160

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@balmy stirrup so all laby coins on shemira and all factio scrolls on wilder and pray for brutus drops

balmy stirrup
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ok, then i have to get saveas!