#lineup-help
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Hi guys new to the discord. I’m stuck 7-32 and would love some help! Who should I be using against this team? Appreciate any help or suggestions, thank you!
Any suggestions? God, I hate BS level cap breaking ascendant Ardens.
Any suggestions i dont die fast but they obviously keep there hp at like half...
Kaz is impossible to hit idk what to do
@wraith barn pls stick to this channel for lineup help
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca/shem
Lyca/shem
You can also try arden bottom if he’s dying too fast center back. Make sure silv jumps tasi
@plucky flintyeah sorry i noticed was in wrong chat and went over here
@plucky flintthank you
@wraith barn no worries. I don’t really care but I know mods do 😃
Help me please, need to pass stage 9 to get 3600 diamonds 💎
I have no idea what I should be using/focusing on/working on in the background/everything else so some enlightenment would be greatly appreciated:)
@oblique phoenix Try Shem/Brutus/Lyca/Tasi/Arden. That’s what worked for me
@regal swallow check the pinned post on the #classic-questions channel
Can someone recommend me a line up too? It’s been 3 days
This Brutus is getting me good.
@olive fossil there’s a few things you can try. Get lyca in your crystal. Also reset raine and level Belinda up to 101 to raise your crystal level (you always want your five highest ascended as your pentagram regardless of how much you use them)
I would try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Sav
Arden
This might be impossible
@Patsy#8944so that worked stuck here now
Pretty much got one shot by the enemy, lyca that is
They kill me so fast 😆
@olive fossil that’s fine. Lyca’s sole purpose this early is to haste then die
Suggestions for this fight?
I still lose hard
@wraith barn try a four wilder lineup, lyca and Shem frontline. Need nem to charm either their nem or arden. Need lots of rng luck
Will try, thanks
@olive fossil keep trying and see if you can get tasi to ult. Goal is to lock vedan with arden then tasi ult and kill vedan before he bats.
Who do i replace with tasi though?
Look at the lineup I posted above
Ping me
I been stuck here for days. Any suggestions ?
@frosty moss
I ran
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi
Need help pls
Hej... What's a good formation?
@forest maple Any reason why arden is in your crystal?
If you can take him out with hogan and level both up to 141, you'll be able to get 141 crystal.
Also, you can revert you're L Khasos.
@honest storm Put in baden, the shadows will eat sorens charm
@honest storm baden and ros for thane and brutus
Help? Giga stucked at 16-27
@indigo jolt Okay I will revert and try the crystal
@sharp escarp your progress is gonna go real real slow till you can mythic your shem
@plucky flint ill try it
@plucky flint ye i know but dont have enough lab coins and I never find her
@sharp escarp You're probably better off dropping Shem for estrilda for now, run Estrilda mid back.
@placid willow
@sharp escarp I’d consider swapping the levels on your estrilda and Brutus and treat estrilda as your carry
@plucky flint any tip for lineup?
@Patsy#8944 get destroyed but last longer so im stuck here
Need help on 15-40. Can’t seem to out dps their healing. Stuck for a couple days
@sharp escarp not sure tbh. I’d play around with the three wilder + Brutus + estrilda line up, but you could also try a Brutus + 4 LB lineup (lucius, estrilda, Belinda, ros), or Brutus + one of the wilders + 3 lb
@plucky flint ty, will try
@sharp escarp I’ve heard overleveled estrilda works surprisingly well as a carry in lieu of Shem but I’ve never tried it myself.
@devout berry Drop Tasi for Nemora, Run Nemora mid back opposite fareal.
Try till you get charm on him.
@devout berry need nem center back to charm ferael, replacing either tasi or arden
Stuck on 18-14. Any suggestions? Or just afk for a while
put nemora top to charm the arden
i think i'm just took weak. front line dies in 5 seconds.
Hogan makes his way up and one-slaps everything.
Not really, i dont have stage picture but definetly cleared it with 200 shem 160 rest.
Try
Shem
Brutus/Lyca
Arden
Lyca/Brutus
Tasi
@jagged plover
Nemora
Shem
Lcya
Brutus
Arden
Try chemira to charm arden
If she is not fast enough put arden in front of arden and charm ira
Need help on 16-40 tried the 4 wilder team and still get rekted. Any other ideas. Or am i stuck?
Any tips?
@violet pecan Have you tried Lyca or Shem in tasi's spot? Need to melt Ulmus asap i imagine.
@indigo jolt yes lyca and brutus melts down ulmus fast enough but somehow when i am left 1v1 shem i lost always
Which dura do you have on Shem? Might be worth trying different ones. If the rng in 1v1 always works against you.
@violet pecan if you have a lineup that can get to 1v1 w Shem, I imagine you can win with just better rng.
Might need tasi to survive to the end with you
@indigo jolt any idea how to pass this
@plucky flint yea one whem opponend chem cast her ulty mine is good as dead
@wraith barn
Aight cool. thanks. Nemora up top worked on 5th try
@wraith barn you just need to try more. Your levels are higher than losts and mine were
@plucky flintmy nemora is elite plus though
So was lost’s?
@wraith barn if its an issue with not landing your cc first on enemy, switch around boots/artifacts.
@jagged plover no problem
@indigo jolthow should they be
Oh, not lineuprelated, but since yall talking bout artifcats. Who would duras blade go onto? in that same team comp
@wraith barn put call on tasi. And grace on either lyca or nem
@wraith barn Fairly sure i had Blade at that point, but call should be on Tasi,grace on Lyca.
@plucky flint im on viper marsh so close to blade
I've reached the point where every enemy team is full of legendaries and mythics... Which heroes should I focus on ascending
I need to redo do it i went out of order or vipers marsh
@jagged plover Blade on Shem generally.
@wraith barn blade is in the top Left. the camp behind it iwasn't hard for me, getting to that camp with your full team still alive was the hard part
@stable mason Read the pins in #classic-questions
i would probably focus on raising the ascension of some of vedan,hogan,arden,saveas just because they are easy to get to L+, so you don't get stuck again at next cap.
Any suggestion? Last stage of chapter 22
@frigid dagger
maybe switch Tasi and Shem's positions. to nuke down thane..
@indigo jolt I can kill him if nem charm arden but athalia one shot shemira with her ult
I checked, That setup worked with someone i know, just need to retry till lyca dodges athalia first move then see how it goes.
Stuck on 12-28. Should I adjust my team lvl? And boost belinda and lower the others?
Oof not even a boss level
@pale kettle Show stage, but generally yes your carry should be higher, but 141 is a good break point for a bunch of heroes so may be worth just waiting for afk xp and retrying in the meantime.
@pale kettle Who does Fawkes coffin?
Try replacing Rosalina or Rowan with Arden/Tasi, maybe even both.
They keep killing belinda and lucius off quickly. Ok I'll try that
Mich better crowd control. But still died haha.
Drop 1 for Brutus, put brutus in Belinda spot.
try it more times
Ascend tasi?
Any help with this stage?
each lineup should be run bare minimum 20 times just to see if working or your barely even testing the rng
Wait it out, only ascend if you can go straight to L+, unless to break level caps.
Roger
Help please?
@jade wedge Nemora middle, rerun till you charm fareal. Lyca in tasi spot.
Who do I replace Tasi with then? Because she freezes him
Oh wait.
Nemora will charm him to attack his own team tho, sometimes charm and banish stacks
Put Thoran in for Tasi,
Draw everytime on faction tower 40 any help?
@wraith barn Try nemora in for Ulmus.
@glad elm Saveas is stronger than Shem pre 161
Any more advice on my line up to beat this one? The advice earlier got me progressed pretty fair I just still think I am not far for my level
Beat it with 3 seconds left omg 😆
Sorry I know it’s only ch 7 but anything I can improve other than afking my E+ to 101? Just getting evaporated
lab hard mode boss.. I’m guessing going for hard mode was a mistake. Any suggestions?
@autumn wharf Don't auto. You'll have to try cc her in animation windows with manual Tasi ult.
Might also be worth trying Thane/Fawkes in.
@wide breach
try running both wyas around.
Sav
lucius
Nem/arden
hogan
Arden/nem
I’ll be getting another Belinda+ tonight from the login event. Should I upgrade one of my light bringers I have now or wait for 2 days when I can do 20 pulls with faction scrolls?
Kaz is impossible to hit. Idk what to do.
I usually do Tasi Lyca Nemora back, Brutus Shemira front @fleet kernel
@stray tiger I would hold off. Belinda isn’t worth rushing to L+. Prob makes most sense to wait till you can get hogan to L+ because you can always fodder him later
Stuck at final stage of chapter 16
@wraith barn
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Lyca/Nemora
anyone can help me ? ❤
@olive thorn lol. Wtf is this? How do you have a 171 shem with lvl 61 crystal??
It shouldnt let you
It literally shouldn’t be possible
i'm stronger than the game
Did you reset your main team?
okay wait i up my team, i have some exp
if he reset, he can't level shem again, right? just up the rest again lol
Ya that's right frizzy
This is a strange troll
Lol
😭 sorry, i jsut checked my older screen
there was no lvl limitation by cristal when i started the game
Damn
@ashen schooner get destroyed
@wraith barn the lineup you posted with lyca Shem frontline is what most people (including myself) used. Just takes a lot of tries to nail the rng
Might be worth taking a pause and gunning for blade if you haven’t gotten it yet
i'm not stealing, that's my account screenshot
u can try it aswell @wraith barn
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Athalia
Any chance?
Tips?
Omg ancient ruins 5 ulmas owning me: any tips?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Id use
Ira
Hogan
Estrilda
Thoran
Saveas @unreal storm
@faint quest I just pulled a satrana, does that change anything
Any advice? Stuck and tried a decent number of combos already.
Lineup advice?
for what?
@meager sonnet Reset Burtus, Saveas and Shemira, put them on the crystal and upgrade Arden, Ferael and Warek instead, that way the first 3 will be able to get past their lvl100 cap. After that, give this comp a try:
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Hogan
Belinda
im newbie . i need line up advice too if possible 🙂
I prob just need to wait huh?
Hi, who should I focus on for my next mythic ?
mm mm Havent used her at that lvl yet so idk try her out @unreal storm
Hey guys little different, I’m real stuck on mailer floor 80, just getting crushed. Any ideas?
Help. I cant deal any damage against these lucius'
You just need to time your damage right on them for when shields are down
not enough Skreg
@exotic kettle borrow a high Ascneded warek
Mauler tower seems to suck
Literally the top 5 on my server are all stuck on floor 79 lol
Just wondering what kind of team i should be aiming for with these heroes, would like to use tasi.
currently using
Shemira
Grezhul
Fawkes
Lucius
Belinda
@obsidian bridge try brutus frontlane bot and everyone else lvl 1, it's not a joke
Lol I’ll listen to anything will try now 😃
Its mauler heroes that sux
Any advice on relic?
@obsidian bridge maybe sword
best team comp?
right now i’m using tasi, nemora, belinda, lucius, and ulmus but i kinda want to pair belinda and shemira but i’m not sure with what else
Get lyca and take out ulmus.
And kindly stop creating legendary hero. U giving me heart attack.
Man Brutus just isn’t getting anything off there @frigid dagger
Im stuck at this stage, tried a few different formations, but i dont seem to get any chance to beat the stage, maybe because of the faction advantages 🤨🤣. Was wondering if anyone could recommand a comp that would have a greater chance to beat these mofos
@obsidian bridge look this guy
Man I've tried this for an hour straight and i got mythic gear on like everyone of them but nemora so they aint week lol and no not full mythic set just 1 or 2 tops on each one
So no idea what I’m doing wrong then
@obsidian bridge just keep trying untill rng bless u
Lol ok ill go throw Netflix on and click a bunch
@blazing summit you should start building meta team.
Don't L if can't go L+ straight. Don't L+ and above if youndont have 4 copies or they not shop heroes.
Arden L+ 141, nemora from shop if GB L+ fodder not ready.
Pull wilder scroll
Floor 202. What’s the strategy with Warek? He is a real pain!
Need help these guys aren't budging
Tips?
@brazen relic Try Shemira/Lucius front and Lyca/Arden/Nemora backline. I beat it with that comp
@ancient oasis
Try getting that Shemira ascended and to 161 as quick as possible! That's when she can start shining and frontline well.
Try subbing Shemira for Nemora in the back, and put Lucius in the front open spot.
@brazen relic Yeah, I would try getting everyone to 160, that's where my backline was since they capped out.
How should I proceed with my party lineup?
@brazen relic Nemora middle back charm fareal. Reset if charm fails.
Key to beat this stage.
You will pass with Ascended 180 shem.
Try Shem and lucius/ tank front, Wilders cc back. Nemora as said. Drop tasi
@minor spade mmm kinda have your priority wrong. You should've legendary saveas instead. He's a carry for early game. For now
Tank: lucius, ogi
Dps: silvina, khasos
Support: lyca/rosaline/rowan
Ill second saveas since he can push till ch 16-4
Ahhhhh im struggling so hard with this
No athalia the arden and charm the nem
Nemora gets one shot
Maybe i need her legendary
does shemira ult stacks if roseline ults right after shemira ulted?
@last granite so should I not use belinda?
@minor spade belinda is a burst dps, meaning that you need her to ult to give the dps you need. If you can get rosaline to follow belinda that'd be great but rosaline would just follow lucius instead
Ah okay so then I should have silvina and khasos on the slots 3 and 5 and have rosaline on slot 4 with lucius and ogi on slots 1 and 2?
@minor spade well comp always depends on the stage. No lineup is the best lineup. If you're stuck you can post the stage (and also your roster again cuz scrolling up is kinda troublesome) here and we'll help you
Alrighty and when you said saveas what exactly did you mean?
Stuck on this any ideas how I could fix or am I out of luck atm
@minor spade saveas is the best dps you can get on early game
Youll want to change places of saveas and tasi so morvus wont 1hit him @sullen surge
What is savess?
@minor spade sorry i meant saveas, the spear guy from mauler faction
Saveas = 
Oh so I would want to get him powered up then?
@minor spade yup
Im stuck at this stage, tried a few different formations, but i dont seem to get any chance to beat the stage, maybe because of the faction advantages 🤨rofl. Was wondering if anyone could recommand a comp that would have a greater chance to beat these mofos
Okay good to know. What would he be dps right so backline?
Saveas is my carry from start up to ch 16-4
Before i decided to cling on ferael as my main carry
@minor spade yes backline . usually he's placed behind brutus (if you have him)
I just got him
@pale kettle
Belinda/saveas
Thoran
Rosaline
Brutus
Silvina/mehira
Between belinda/savess I'd choose saveas cuz he's dps all the time.
@minor spade great! You can post your stage + hero list again here if you're stuck. We'll try to help
Thank you very much
Please help
Lets run it
Still cant get it guessing I'll have to level
@unreal storm I haven't seen how satrana fights so I'm not sure whether to swap her from the comp or not. But imo I'd choose ira over raine because ira can slow enemy down and her ult can be critical.
Also try swapping estrilda and hogan position
Okay I'll try that @last granite I was just using Raine for the tribal buff thing
@sullen surge have you tried swapping tasi for fawkes? Not only you can get the same banishing effect, you get faction bonus too
Put shemira bottom and fawkes middle too
Can I get some help with 19-24?
Still get my ass beaten
@pale kettle how many enemies left?
@regal ridge try swapping nemora and brutus position
Around 3, at the best.
I’m trying to build a decent team line up and was wondering if this could work into mid game
@pale kettle hmm then try swapping shemira with silvina and if rosaline doesn't help anyone to ult swap her with mehira/ira
Still getting trashed, the mirael ultimate is one shotting my team pretty much
@warm blade not a lot of people would suggest using the twins in a campaign and gorvo sounds formidable but isn't actually tough isn't he?
@sullen surge how close are you to winning?
Pretty far off tbh like 3 left, with 60% hp
@last granite I love the twins for the haste due to I have haste pretty much the whole fight and she can link gorvo and luc health
@warm blade but I’m still pretty new so it’s prob trash to ppl who know what they are doing
@sullen surge try swapping shemira with lyca then. If you're using lyca it's best to use tasi since her ult is powerful
@warm blade if it worked so far then your comp is probably fine. If you're stuck you probably just need tweaking a little bit
I give up. Its time to level them while im stuck on heroes. Fuck
@pale kettle it's fine, you can farm resources when you're stuck so there's that
Yeah thats one of the advantages of this game, but i cant level anyone other then belinda higher at the moment. And i can ascend a few, but at cost of some good helpfull heroes
@pale kettle you're definitely not level cap so the stage should be doable. If you want you can remove kelthur from crystal and put tasi instead and use her in the comp
Anyone on to help me out?
Last bit of help please!
@pale kettle Whatcha need
@mild wing Im litterly hard stuck in everything, kinda confused on what i should do with my team also. Hardstuck in campain, kings tower, cant do the last fight in voyager either
@pale kettle Post a pic of your heroes and the stage you are at
I’ll get elite+ Belinda in 3 days I also have 10 faction scrolls and 10 more in 2 days
@mild wing
@pale kettle Leveling evenl;y is a mistake. level 1 hero until capped and only then level others, keep him overlevelled as much as possible, saveas is good for carrying up to 160
plus you have 6 heroes leveled? Reset the shemira and dump all of it into saveas
wait no you have 7 heroes leveled reset the grezhul too, at the rickety cart in town, level saveas more. You only need 5 heroes leveled. The resonating crystal in town can be used to make 6+ = to your lowest level of the 5
@mild wing when do I switch over from Saveas?
Now and keep the rest the same, he needs to be overlevelled to carry
Awh wait, I just rickety carted 2 grezhul and Shemira now I only have have 4 people leveled and he can’t go past 80 @mild wing
I counted 1 off my tint was off, you had 6 not 7
so level just one back to 60, then saveas
@mild wing who should I raise?
@frigid dagger did it. Was all about timing Brutus’s ult and I needed to use the energy relic
@frigid dagger
@obsidian bridge Nice dude, gratz
This double Lucius double Tasi is a bear. Any pointers?
the last boss in the Voyage event
Is nuru better then hogan? Im trying her out but not sure she doesnt tank too well. Both at L+ atm. If i coulf use her better then hogan i coulf feed hogan to ascend lucius
@faint mountain time brutus so u dont get slept by tasi, or try to use luscius right before so you dont take AS much damage kek
@sly cave Nuru? you mean niru? If so, hes not really a tank hes only good for really heavy burst teams to execute people
20-44 can't defeat Warek n Brutus
@ember bane Fuck it dude shemira frontline kek
@ember bane If you put fawk on, maybe youll get super lucky and hell cage brutus and kill him omegalul
@ember bane not same stage but same enemies, u can try this
@frigid dagger worked well thanks
Ideas for 10-21
What should i change i lose a lot 😦
Stuck on 10-32, any advice appreciated
@median crow is fawkes a better tank than lucius and brutus? You also lack dps, you might wanna add saveas into the formation. I suggest
Saveas
Belinda
Rowan/rosaline
Hogan/lucius/brutus
Fawkes
Brutus and Lucius are only Elite and they die in 2 shots right now for me. With my current comp I got it down to just Niru with everyone except Hogan left, and he killed them all
This is the damage numbers I produce normally, with Belinda sometimes going into the 300k
Need help on 18-26 please. Forgot my formation on 18-14 lol
@median crow mm then
Saveas
Belinda
Rosaline
Fawkes
Lyca/arden
If you choose arden put saveas in the middle
Plz help
@last granite I’ll give it a shot, thanks
@high oyster I'd reset thoran and give the levels to hogan, a better tank imo.
Belinda
Hogan
Mirael/ira/vedan
Brutus
Saveas
Should I make my Shemira level 180 and have Brutus at 165?
@last granite I forgot to mention that Rosaline follows Fawkes even though Belinda has the highest attack rating, don’t know if that affects the your suggested comp
Need some linup help
@feral goblet overlevel shemira. Also go to #classic-questions non lineup related question. You get better answer and explanation there
@tired dove why not lucius as tank? He melt quickly?
Yea I asked there but got no response. Thx for the advice
I just recently pulled him
@tired dove mmm might wanna try lucius instead of lf ira then. If he does melt quickly I suggest swapping ira and lyca position.
Also try swapping tasi for nemora and try to charm saveas/vedan
@last granite thx
@tired dove a couple of backline position
- Saveas, arden, nemora
- Arden, nemora, saveas
- Tasi, arden, saveas
Got it. Ya lucy just melts
Super stuck on 9-20; any advice would be appreciated
Use Saveas over Rowan
You mean swap them? They're both in my current lineup
Oh yeah, I'd put Eironn in the Frontline, and swap out Rowan and Saveas
Uhh in that case all i can say is try to level up your heroes since you're at a 100k power difference
Yeah that's probably the only option lol. Thanks anyways
No problem!
@dusty cedar is lucius able to ult?
If he's in backline, yes XD
I've tried some runs with Rowan in frontline instead of Lucius, and those are the runs I got the furthest on
But yeah like Yeem Chaw said, the power difference is probably too much
@dusty cedar then try that lineup but swap tasi with mehira. But lucius need to be able to ult tho so mehira can also ult
I mean with enough rng anything is possible but yeah power difference is too much
Holy moly that was a lucky run, I passed!! Thanks Shiya hahaha
@dusty cedar rngeesus has blessed you today 
Congrats! Glad it worked out for you!
Thanks! Now I've unlocked the challenger tournament :D
Wondering if anyone can give me some pointers here, once I beat it I should have enough gems to pull again so I really need to
Help!!
@pale kettle can you show us your full roster too? Edit your message and add the screenshot there
@rose merlin try this
Saveas
Brutus
Shemira
Lucius
Nemora
Nemora have to charm saveas, if not then retry
Worth a try
That's my standard lineup but I can replay till saveas gets charmed.
@rose merlin or you can try the meta lineup too
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Not sure about this tho since your saveas is not 160 yet and your shemira is not 161 but worth a try
@last granite this is the current roster and i am waiting on cooldown to put nem and ros on resonating crystal
@pale kettle mm okay you can try this
Lyca
Brutus
Athalia
Shemira
Tasi
If you need sustainability you can swap tasi with lucius
Tips? I get owned lol
@last granite you beauty!
@rose merlin haha, congrats!
4 days there
@pale kettle I would just try to ascend more of your heroes because of the huge power difference
@rapid meteor Try
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Kelthur
Tasi
@pale kettle how close are you to winning with that lineup?
@pale kettle then you probably only need rng. Retry it a thousand times :')
But lemme think of something
@pale kettle have you tried changing lyca with nemora?
So backline top to bottom would be: tasi, nemora, arden
@misty grottoThx mate, after a few tries with Lyca (haste) instead of Kelthur I made it :D
No problem!
@pale kettle i was thinking nemora would charm ferael so he would charm his teammate instead but let's see.. If you got athalia put her against ferael to delay him cc-ing your team.
Combo with lyca+arden or lyca+tasi
I hate these big cc teams x.x
A little help please? Been stuck a couple days
Anyone can help w this
Is there no way to win with who i have?
@solid marten how close are you to winning with that comp?
Any tips on how to beat this?
Usually khasos and that caster in the back are the only two left alivd
Khasos is pretty much the biggest problem, left at 75% health
@solid marten hmm if mirael can stand it put her on front line in place of rosaline and swap rosaline with nemora. Try to charm khasos
Didn’t work, no charm n she died before ult
@solid marten how about your regular lineup but swap mirael and rosaline position?
4/5 enemies lived but Khasos and caster were lower hp than before
@solid marten phew then your lineup is probably already the best mate. You can ask again later when other players are more active 
Aye, thanks for the help
@solid marten I contribute nothin u_u
other hereos below are athalia rosaline shemira and the new flame mauler regular elites
What's the best team comp I can make with the little I have, any help is appreciated you're all wonderful regardless
Wow they heal so much lmao
Need some help with this stage
@unreal storm hogan, estrilda, saveas, ira, raine/vedan (whoever gives better dps)
Is estrilda good? She seems to always just get destroyed in like 2 seconds
Stuck on this node for a couple days, any ideas?
@unreal storm she's squishy. If you want to change her with someone I'd suggest mirael. I use mirael as semi tank + dps until around chap 11
Also just a reminder for everyone here, if you want to get help please post screenshots of
- Your heroes' list
- The stage you're stuck on
It's hard to try to help but we have to scroll back and forth because these necessary screenshots are separated. Thank you
How can I beat this level 11-32 also what’s the best thing I can do with team levelling
@regal swallow for early game always level saveas to 160 asap as he's a carry.
For now try this
Saveas
Belinda
Rosaline/lyca
Lucius
Arden
Belinda is mythic so she should be able to tank. I removed brutus because I don't think he's immunity is helping enough but dunno about that
Hello everyone
Which hero do you think I should level up first?
@odd elbow this room is for lineup related questions, repost that again in #classic-questions. You can get better answer there too than here
@last granite looks like you can not help me 😁
@violet pecan I wish I could but you're way ahead of me and I know things doesn't work the way I know when you're high leveled 😭
any recommendations for chapter 8, as well as set up for arena? been going with hendrik and shemira frontline, then tasi, mehira, rosa backline
@last granite maybe i can help you
@errant schooner for early level always get saveas to 160 asap since he's a carry. If shemira can tank then that's fine to put her on frontline.
For arena you can use hendrik, fawkes, mehira, rosa shemira/saveas
@violet pecan yes please! Hold on a sec lemme get my screenshots
@last granite does faction bonus not matter that much?
@violet pecan pls help sir
been using fawkes instead of saveas for dps and mehira for the 30% defense
@errant schooner in arena not really imo, sadly you're always gonna be beaten up by someone there (even if you're a seasoned player too!)
Mehira already gives you that extra defense so you got things going for you and hendrik+rosa+fawkes gives you 3 faction bonus
oh i meant for just PVE
@last granite faction bonus is majoe role after 18 chapter your shem is 200 so if you 4 mthyic gear on her you shpuld have been chapter 20
Tasi/nemora
Lucius/brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Nvm if your lyca and arden is just elite... you need that root on estrilda and haste
@errant schooner oh, for pve on early game it doesn't really matter that much. Maybe around chapter 8 or 9 then you need to at least get that 3 faction bonus
@violet pecan sir I'm already gearing my shemira with all reds and rngeesus hasn't blessed me with smooth sailing yet 😭
@last granite try out what i gave you
Or try to charm opponent arden and put your arden top
Try 100 times if needed, you will get it event
@violet pecan mmm nope, still not working. I've tried like at least 50 retries and it's so hard to get good rng 
Stuck at 15-16, any idea please ?
Have you tried Tasi ? Maybe reset your heroes to 141 and get shem to 180
@last granite make sure you have right artifacts on heroes
Yes, I've tried Tasi. I could reset the chars for sure but I wonder if that's gonna be a big leap to remain alive. Shem can do 1 ulti
Shem 180 will carry you
Alright, I'll give it a try then!
@violet pecan I tried changing the artifacts but it's not making much difference since they all died in about 20 sec. I tried putting dura's call on mehira/tasi and dura's drape/grace on shem and it still wont work. I'm stumped because I got 200 shemira and she doesn't carry me as much as I hope for :')
Help meee (dont u dare say how messed up my heroes r)
Nem
Brutus
Tasi
Saveas
Arden
If that doesn’t work you may want to reset your heroes to 101 and get Saveas to 140
Saveas has reached the lvl cap but thnx.. ill try it
Oh yes sorry didn’t see that !
Okay, i need some guidance. I have played for about 3 days, i have been told i got some good early pulls. Where do i take my team? Am i even utilizing good heros? Also tomorrow i will be able to receive a hero from the labyrinth (i understand shimira and nemora are the op ones there). What should i do? My little brain hurts 😂
Can anyone suggest anything for the last part of the voyage? I think I’m going to need every day of the two weeks to try and level for it. Also, are there any relics that are must get?
Suggestions for this? Swapped some heroes around to different spots and no luck.
So to beat the last part u just need to get good runes... sunstone and moonstone together are OP or Iceblade and Fireblade.. if u have one of the 2 combined it will become a lot easier.... i beat the last part with just a legendary Lucuis and the rest as elite and elite+ @candid orbit
@runic drift Yeah you got really lucky. Your team is great I wouldn’t change a thing for now. Get Saveas Elite+ and overlevel him.
Buy Shem from the lab but don’t use her yet. For more early tips read the pinned messages in #classic-questions
Thanks @twilit wind , I’ve got these so I’ll restart and keep going until I get some combination of those
@uncut sapphire ty for the information
:)) and also i mean firebringer and icebringer or whatsoever... xD
@candid orbit Try to borrow a good merc
I’ll give that a shot if I can’t get it done with the people I have
why is this so tough!! 😭 stucked for a few days
vedan and niru 1 v 2 shemira and i loses
Nemora or Warek? Which server should I choose? xd Im starting again
i think your question goes #classic-questions
@twilit wind thanks dude! Got ice and fireblade and with a couple of tweaks to the team squeezed through
@candid orbit you're welcome :))
Need some suggestions for this stage.
Should I reset to get better relics? Trying to beat the last boss in Lucent Vault
It’s going to be tough getting better relics...
I have a Mythic+ Lucius and Ascended Shemira as mercenaries but still no luck
help
Who does silvina target? @dry smelt
That's good. Try getting brutus to 180 (that will already help a lot). How far do you get?
not far.... no one else dying except silvina
How many times have you tried already? Your lineup relies heavily on rng
half an hour?
Hmm. If you really die that quickly, you might want to consider leveling your heroes a bit more tbh
is it time to mythic lyca using arden?
Hell. No. Arden is extremely useful.
i mean use E+ arden
If you use e+ arden rn, silv will target him instead of tasi and he'll be useless
Any idea?
use saveas instead of nemora
Here’s what I’m fielding in 19-7 and the amount of CC is knocking me down quickly. Any suggestions?
Try
Lucius
Saveas
Belinda
Rosaline
Brutus
Rosaline will dodge athalia's initial attack
Or just put brutus frontline @honest storm
Guess me being stuck is more of my ascension levels than line-up? am at 10-20
@deep lagoon - have you tried putting Saveas in the crystal? He’s super powerful until 160
No, not yet, coz I don't really have strong wilders imo, but I can try it
You guys were so helpful before I thought I would come back for more assistance. :0 currently stuck on King’s Tower 141, the last fight in Voyage of wonders and 11-16. My 160 just wasn’t Saveas wasn’t doing the job anymore and I was blessed with a second Lucius so I was able to move him up the Legendary. So yes Helpplz
@feral coral try shem vs kaz, brutus vs ogi. Backline: top arden, middle lyca and bottem nemora
11-16 oof
I could use some help, this dumb Nemora keeps charming my Brutus then he kills my Saveas and the fat guys shield be block Nemora
Anyone beat this and remember how? Everything seems fine my shemira ults with full hp then all ezizhs explode and I go 100-0 instantly
@unreal storm By the time she charms you only have 2 heroes left so yeah that will happen everytime. You need to level 3 more heroes so one of them can take the charm
I don't have the xp to level 3 more heros atm unless I bump down the levels on my Brutus and Saveas @uncut sapphire
Then you’d have to wait
What would you guys suggest?
@indigo jolt here you go, please share me your wisdom
@fierce kayak aright aright aright lemme try it real quick
@last granite I just passed this level, shem, brut, nara, lyca and Fawkes
@brisk spade team for now?
Fawkes/Arden
Brutus
Belinda
Hendrick
Raine
@last granite take your time. At the stage need more tries.
Should I reset Saveas then? Since he has extra levels on him
@brisk spade you can for now. And level Brutus?
Do make Arden L+ 141 first. O ya.. Tasi/Arden can be use. But Arden easier to use at this stage.
Ok then, thanks
@topaz eagle would love to try your comp but unfortunately I don't have nara :/
@fierce kayak I'll keep trying. With your comp my team survives just a little bit longer than usual :)
@last granite g luck buddy. Athalia is very good counter to Arden too. You can mix around.
Can't get past this
@brisk spade fawkes coffin who?
Vedan
@brisk spade ok. Becos Arden is a prob too. Maybe
Arden
Gorvick
Tasi/Belinda
Brutus
Lyca
Or
Tasi
Gorick
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Key is to kill Vedan first and root them before their Arden root you. And try till their nemora don't charm your Brutus.
Unless you have better dps hero to kill Vedan first.. else Brutus can be top
@runic tundra
Try front Shem
And use Arden kindly post here too.
@feral coral
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
@runic tundra
Try
Tasi/lyca
Brut
Lyca/tasi
Shem
Arden
U need Arden there cos there is a Arden enemy . Try to borrow if u dun have one .
@robust saffron your power more than enough man 🙂
@fierce kayak used belinda instead of lyca and it worked, thanks
@brisk spade gratz
So should I just use the same squad and go for it?
Progressing really slow, need some lineup help pls
@fierce kayak hey! you progressing alright in ch20?
@clear saddle seems alright for now.. thanks 🙂
@fierce kayak Its bearable with 220 shem actually. just need to mix around your comp a little later on
I got some ss if you need 🙂 just @ me
@clear saddle yup tks buddy
@dark tundra there you go
@runic tundrau r quite delay man. Try to scroll up I sent the line up. The key there is actually use Arden to support your Shem and kill Hogan first. If your Shem can kill Hogan I think everyone will fall too.
Saw @runic tundra
Try
Tasi/lyca
Brut
Lyca/tasi
Shem
Arden
U need Arden there cos there is a Arden enemy . Try to borrow if u dun have one @dark tundra
Nine dun need help tues he's a pro
Desperately need some help with those 2 Tasi:
I am at 14-28, am i behind on campaign ? And if so any advise ?
Stuck on 16-12
@feral goblet who has lowest def from your mages? Make sure it's Tasi, so Silvina targets her.
What I’ve seen Silvana is always targeting Nemora so that units got the lowest def
Play with their equip. Tasi can teleport out of Silvina and survive. And now you're just loosing Nemora with no profit. Also Tasi should be far from Shem, so she have some time until Silvina targets her.
Okay thx
best lineup for 18-40?
@ornate night ^ try this
@ornate night should work. You have a lot more power than mine. G luck
allright will do!:)
hey folks!
I am currently running:
Ira
Lucius
Tasi
Hogan
Saveas
I just pulled a Brutus and I can buy a Shemira or Nemora from the labyrinth shop right now, if that could make a difference. The Saveas is ready for an upgrade, but I'm not sure if I should sacrifice a Rare+ Saveas for it.
I would love to get some tips to make my team stronger for chapters 6 and beyond.
@whole kettle Brutus is definitely worth using as a frontline damage dealer and only gets better as you progress. I would definitely recommend buying Shemira first and possibly resetting Saveas (and maybe even Hogan) to pour your resources into Shemira. Regarding Saveas though, you'd probably be better off waiting and saving the Rare+ Saveas when you can ascend another one so you can have another Elite.
18-36 help please
Thanks! So should i put Brutus and Lucius in the front with Tasi, Shemira and one more in the back?
@whole kettle Yessir, that one more can be a Nemora later as well. Wonderful CC and heal potential.
Awesome, I'll try it out, thanks 🙂
Any help to complete the event
Any suggestions? I think I just need to wait for levels. I got my team selected and you can see my other options bellow
Any help please?
@sullen surge two options. You could run with Lucius, Brutus, Tasi, Arden, Lyca. Or a good strat is to reset all and only push them to 81 and then buff Saveas until he can two shot anyone. Lucius and Brutus frontline and tasi and Arden for support
Any advise for me?
I used the tips from @ashen schooner to create this team. With this team, which character(s) should I focus on leveling? I think I can get one to 81 if the others stay at 60
Allright, thanks 🙂
@long pond so I would recommend moving Shemira to the backline and Ezizh up front. You could also swap out Shemira for Arden as well for the added cc and heals
Not even a dent
@pale kettle switching shemira to arden
@ancient oasis use Arden instead of nemora? maybe put arden at the bottom to make him root the khasos and saveas
^ Get those other heroes leveled up too if you can. Otherwise keep trying/rotating
@untold nacelle first off, dont put your belinda frontline, shes gonna get melted by the maulers
Since i presume she's your main dps, you're better off with saveas in her place and put belinda at bottom back
^ I would keep the Nem to charm Saveas as well, keep resetting it the charm fails
Alright. Keep getting melted. Not sure if thats down to nisfortune, inadequate gear or poor dura artifact placement but ill play around with the advice
@clear saddlethanks no luck tho
@ancient oasis hmm okay then
Still having no luck
Who should i acend and Who i should Just wait with???
Stuck on 15-40, any idea please?
@turbid fern top down shemira brutus top down arden/lyca nemora lyca/arden
@turbid fern ^ reset if nemora fails to charm fareal
Help me pleaseeeee.
Just got to chapter 13 and got my shemira to 161, so was thinking i could cruise through this chapter but already stuck at 13-4. Am I missing something obvious here?
@frigid dagger & @fierce kayak got it! thank you !
Anyone know how to beat this one
@wise stream try putting Arden at the 3rd place or 4th
Now stuck at 16-12, any idea please? Arden gets OS btw
Help plz
@high oyster swap vedan for rosaline?
Help me with my trash team ;))
Stuck on 20-52. If anyone has any suggestions i would appreciate it. Right now I'm figuring i will be stuck for a bit, at least until i get all my heroes to level 200
Would love to know if anyone has any idea how to do these, please @/dm me!
Hardstuck, cant beat lucent vault
@pale kettle Key to lucent vault is relic picking, team looks finje. If you really cannot beat it with better relics, it scales when it opens not ongoing, so in a few days of afk you will outlevel it
@mild wing I cant beat Campaign or kings tower... should i just afk and wait it out?
@pale kettle if you are f2p there are going to be some points you get stuck, sometimes you just gotta afk a bit, it is part of the game occassionally.
if you are stuck everywhere it may be the case
@mild wing look at this account after 3 10xs should I just main this account?
Yes. @pale kettle Cant get much better
its pretty lucky
It looks like i cant put out enough damage with them though, which is kinda weird though
@wise stream he is a center control, sometimes works the best there
@twilit wind lucius brutus rosaline Arden Belinda
Any advice here?
Arden and lyca switch places or just switch 3 4 5
Arden dies instantly
Switch between*
Everyone except tasi dies because of charge and ira just kills whoever is infront of her
@earnest plank YouTube might work
Arden root isn't rooting anyone too
@lilac musk
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Shem can’t tank ogi
Eh, i did ssome weird stuff switched shem and brutus out then replaced brutus with lucuis
@lilac musk if you have decent gear on lyca, try swapping shem and lyca
I did everyone just dies too quick and arden doesnt get any cc off for some reason
Lyca is tanking ogi, lyca should tank long enough for roots... just need to try for rng on roots, adn tasi to tp to safety twic
Have u tried lyca and tasi, switching with hendrik and Belinda
Stuck on 11-16 and 141 in Kings Tower and that last fight in Lucent wrecks me every time. Saveas not tanky enough for carries at 160 anymore
Any line up tips ?
Can someone help me pick my best heroes I'm new to the game
Please post a picture of your Heroes.
Who should I replace the twins with
Please post a picture of your heroes.
I would suggest getting a mercenary Tasi or Lyca, to even out the power gap a bit
How do I make this better and should I replace any Heroes with another one. I am new to this game so I might need a little bit extra detail when you explain.
@pale kettle I would say Lucius Hogan frontline, Shemira Belinda Mehira backline. Try that and tell me the results. As for Lucent, try using Athalia in the middle backline to cancel Eironn's pull.
@wet warren I would say try Baden Ferael Grezhul backline, Baden Shemira frontline.
@cerulean whale I would switch around Arden (old horn dude) and Thane (black coat sword guy)
Okay
@olive junco
Assuming silv still jumps to Tasi, switch Lyca and Tasi positions.
Now stuck at 16-12, any idea please? Arden gets OS btw
By the way, for future reference, support heroes should stay in the backline as to not get killed instantly. I would say do
Rosaline (broom girl)
Thane (sword guy)
Belinda (
)
Khasos (dual wielder)
Arden (old guy with beard) @cerulean whale
@turbid fern Assuming your Nemora is the first target for Silvina. I'd try
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
How successful would a team based on summoning additional units to draw aggro be? Like Brutus, Numisu + Shemira, Baden, Grezhul all Mythic+ with signature items
@hot topaz yes I have tried tasi and lyca. They were my original team for all of 18.
I got a new hero called numisu. Should I level him up and replace him with one of my current heroes or should I not.
I am new to this game so I need a little bit more detail when you're explaining Heroes
@ashen schooner got it !! Thank you ❤
Pretty much have the cookie cutter team here I know, so not much improvement. The reason I'm posting is wilder fodder is slowing me down and I'm looking to branch out into some secondary useful units with late game potential. Open to ideas and suggestions.
and like I posted above, possibly looking to try Brutus, Numisu + Shemira, Baden, Grezhul to summon a lot of garbage for the AI to focus because late game fights it's hard for tanks to survive long.
Mmm, Ferael is always a great choice. Eironn is crazy good late game, same for Baden and Kelthur. Grezhul's a fucking beast tho. So I'd probably say your best bet for another team composition is mostly Graveborns anyway. @silver vigil
Yeah I have been waiting for more Ferael's, and slowly amassing more Eironn's too but still need 3 L+ fodders for my lyca, nemora and tasi to get mythic+. So I'm looking to other factions. Sadly I can't seem to get enough of any of the good lightbeareres to mythic any of them so I'm thinking I can get infinite grehzul's and numisu from the challenger arena store if I just stop buying athalia's which I've been doing up to this point.
@indigo jolt silv jumps to nemora, but ill try swapping gear and try your idea
I would say your best bet for Lightbearers is Belinda and Fawkes (besides Lucius). Belinda only gets stronger (like insane damage imo) and Fawkes coffin and debuff are pretty hard to top. @silver vigil
I agree and thane also I'd like to have
@indigo jolt unfortunately tasi gets one shot is that expected? If i use arden she goes for him since he is lower level even if he has more defense.
You're gonna have to hope for rng tasi teleports tbh
Wow that worked lmao
Tasi died in one shot but shem carried it.
Was stuck on that stage for like 3 weeks. Recently 3 starred shem which was a huge help.
Any way i can clear this?
Need help. Have dura's grace, eye, drape and call if that helps with advice.
Can't even get close don't have drape yet can't clear the boss fight well enough any advice would be great
I'm stuck, what do I do?
20-42, @silent wraith
@pale kettle put Nemora against Ferael so he sends spirits on his team
Any other idea here? Already hate those Tasis
thats what I used but I had all 200
Hmm. Maybe rent a Ferael from somewhere. @still shadow Once Ulmus ults it's pretty downhill from there on top of a double banish and sleep.
Ferael instead of who? Was thinking about that, my E+ does not do much
Hey, still a bit of a newbie here, but I was was wondering if using the shemira+ would be worth loosing the 3 man maulers buff? Heard she's kinda op^^ ------current main setup is Mehira,Nemora,Brutus,Saveas,antandra
@old pendant , on that level she's not so great, current team looks descent
I would say Ferael in place of your Tasi or Lyca. @still shadow
@old pendant Pretty worth it especially late game. The faction bonuses aren't always a priority as well. I'd say though that your current team is good.
okay ty for help
anybody knows a good lineup i could build? im struggling a lil bid, kinda a noob with getting good team comps
What should I be using for my setup with this? Kinda lost rn
@worldly thorn I would try lucius saveas estrilda belinda tasi for the 3x faction, make sure saveas is max overlevelled as your carry. Check the pin regarding ascending heroes to L for future use
aight I'll try that
Lineup help?
Anyone have suggestions for this level? Been stuck for a while now.
I just got fawkes and was wondering if i should purely use lightbears or mix it up with the maulers
@raw trail Stop leveling your heroes so evenly, you need 1 hero capped above the others as a carry, usually saveas is recommended up to 160
So focus on saveas til he caps?
This stage is horrible, please help
Ah ok thanks
Stuck on 11-38: Any help?
@clear kraken Just about anyone on here will likely tell you your saveas should be overlevelled
Any help?
Any ideas here? I get obliterated instantly
@nova siren Which ch/stage is it i can check the formation I used
20-52 @mild wing
How do you check that? You keep track yourself?
Meh ok, thanks. My Brutus is only mythic as you can see. Will keep trying I guess
mmm yeah no mine wont work with your lyca at L, she wont have enough dodge I used her frontline
Id try putting tasi in front of lucius and shem as frontliners, that was lucius wont get destroyed
That god damn Arden rooting is annoying as well. Ok I’ll try that
@nova siren
Any ideas?
@pale kettle 20-8?
Yes
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi
It doesnt feel doable sadly
People have got further with less. i think i merc'd a Brutus as mine is L. but can go find screen if you want.
Umm, that would be great
Uhhh thanks @frigid dagger guess I’ll have to raise an Arden again ahah
@pale kettle I knwo it can work with M+ Brutus in same slot.
Alright, ty
@nova siren yeah, arden is pretty usefull
I feel like this stage should be doable, any ideas?
Can someone help me with wilder faction tower 60?
I just passed it @frigid dagger !! Thanks 😁😂
What's the trick for LB60?
fawkes purge
If I recall, for me Fawkes and Thane were pretty killer
If you're going to focus on Thane, then Raine becomes very important for her buff
@pale kettle 100% doable with M+ Brutus. I had similar ascendence with lowers levels.
@plucky flint idk, shem won't even come close to ult
@mystic barn I ran ros over raines. Put ros middle back. Took me a few tries, but I had a lower crystal.
Yup, tossed Fawkes in the crystal, fixed it in one
I don't think I ran ros, but it makes sense that she'd be useful. Nice!
should i make a legendary saveas - i already have shemira as a carry so i was kinda waiting until a brutus popped or sth
feels like my team is going all over the place lately
Tips ?
You want Saveas as your carry pre161 anyway
Yeah, Saveas would probably be decent to focus on at this point Jms
What's a good Soren team for Shemira?
@fair sundial depends on your roster. I run Shem Baden ros lucius estrilda (same as my wrizz team). Baden and/or grez are important for their summons to eat Soren’s charms
Mm, my Wrizz team hits 45m, but barely gets over 12m on Soren
I’ve haven’t hit 45m yet on wrizz (I’m real close) but I hit 20m+ two days ago on Soren (though not yesterday). I’m going to try running grez over estrilda after today’s reset
Any lineup recommendations regardless of lvl?
Pretty much have this, mostly everyone else is E+
No Lucius or minion summons, or anything that's particularly good for Soren
My lucius, Baden, and ros are all e+
Goal is basically to deflect/distract Soren while ros/Shem get as much dmg in as possible
Warek would probably deserve a spot on your team. Maybe thane too
The problem is that everyone not Brutus / Shemira dies within the first 30s
I’d try a lineup with lucius, ros and at least one summoner to see how it goes, even at low ascendency. Think you should def be topping 20m with those levels.
This battle only got to 16M, but i hit 20+ the day before
Who should I ascend next.
@fair sundial Try Shem Warek Nemora Rosaline Belinda, Once Warek has ulted twice and has aggro from Soren and is other side, turn off auto.
No one, you should collect fodder until you get more elite fodder so that you can get someone to ascended.
I need help with a lineup for campaign any suggestions?
@indigo jolt Nope, everyone died 30s in again
Even with call on Nemora?
Nemora died first.
Hmm drop Belinda for Lucius, go double shield/heal..
Out of tries.
My serious lack of a Brutus hurts, but got any recommendations for a line up? Been playing for like 8days.
@fair sundial You can exit app, if you really want to test out multiple stuff in future before the end.
Oh, I thought it subtracted your attempt at the start, not the end
So can I get help with a lineup for campaign or?
@cloud moth Read thee pins in #classic-questions
You dont really have a carry or overlevelled it. Most recommended is Sav but you can't use him atm.
Nah nvm f it that’s too complicated
Better upgrade thane or estrilda ?
Any ideas?
any idea how to beat the lvl 60 faction tower for maulers ? the 4 lucius are waay to strong
Manage to last about 5 seconds before dying, its an improvement but i badly need help with this bitch
Guys, agree that i pushed it as far as it goes or should this still be possible with some rngsus
Thats an rngesus team. Dont give up. Just try to move them about until you get a winner
Tried like 50 times tho
@wise stream Switch lyca/shem positions.
rowan is fucking op holy shit
help pls
Lyca didnt work, switched back and got it instantly. That rng eh?
raine instead of arden
@pale kettle switch arden and raine. then you'll also get faction bonus
that was my first attempt still got eradicated
Arden is doo doo at that lvl Bro, maybe put angelo in Crystal and replace arden for him for the heals @pale kettle
How did yall beat voyage 💀
Meta
Switch nemora and Lycas position for eironn to pull Lyca instead @fleet storm
Was stuck on 7-36 for days and just beat it was this team, hope it can help someone
(7-37 is in the picture not 7-36)
Anything I should change ? I mean anything else than heros placements ? because I've tried all setups already lol (stage 12-7)
Any suggestions for 11-16 or have I pushed as far as I can for now?
These are my other heroes that I currently have
Well for whoever gave me the tip of sticking with the meta and let rng run its course: thank you. I went from 12-32 to 14-4 in one sitting
13-36
I beat chapter 13 with alot less levels as you did @calm hollow . Only had shemira at 161 and lucius at 141, rest 140
Guess shemira really does carry
Nee to make my team stronger but failing to find pick us to ascend him. What would be a good frontliner to ascend.
@wise stream I die in 20 seconds haha I have no idea
Tips plz?
Is grezhul good at ascended level? He insta dies at mythic. Curious if he becomes useful in campaign.
@olive junco Grezhul is one of the best choices for Lab hardmode Wrizz
especially w/ upgraded signature item
Oh i dont have much trouble with wrizz. I have to ascend him eventually as i have so many copies. At 2 star ascended can he help in campaign? Ch 20
@last granite If you're still stuck, try this.
@olive junco he gets very strong later on, like 240+
Cool i just need two more e plus and then can 2 star ascend him @plucky flint
I'm running with Ferael+, Nemora, Grezhul, Athalia and Numisu. Who should I be pushing the most? I've been going with Farael a few ahead of the rest, should I push him more?
Also, I'll be able to buy a hero from the Lab soon. Should I buy Nem again to get her up, or maybe Shemira?
What is a good team comp, the splashers are annoying af, btw I'm stuck
That was supposed to be opposite order
@indigo jolt I think the problem is my lyca is only elite+. Not strong enough to last on the frontline
@last granite Did you ever get root on arden + both estrildas?
@indigo jolt yes but the others isn't able to make any significant damage to the enemies. Might have to try a couple more times
What's the optimal team to run with for Wrizz? I have most heroes now, and all are 200 (except Shem, who is 220) and I can't seem to find a good guide for what is the best
Just looking for a general lineup to get started
@safe quartz Baden, lucius, estrilda, shemira, rosaline in this order
@cedar cairn Got help over in #classic-chat, but thank you still!
Any kind soul with an OP Vurk, so I can pass this Hell floor 80 ?
Who should I use for voyage ?
I'm wondering if it's possible to pass this stage with my current team? If not i can get shemira ascended and 200+ after the sigil event is done so that should be able to help
@steel moat Which stage is it?
20-4
@steel moat it's always a good habit to indicate your stage too buddy.
Overall levels seems fine, just the M+ shem. Hopefully she is well equipped with enhancement.
If not, maybe need more RNG and tries.
Ideally should be 220 to pass chap 20.
I asked so I can check what levels i was 1 sec
@steel moat I beat it 1-5 shem brutus tasi nemora lyca my shem was ascended but was 200 also
I see, I thought I still needed arden at this point, hopefully I'll be able to get past when I ascend shemira in a couple days. Thanks guys!
Need help
HAAAAAALP
@steel moat you still need Arden buddy.
@bright geyser im guessing you've already tried different combinations of Brutus, Hsemira, lyca, tasi and nemora
I've tries so many things I don't even remember anymore xD
So try and level up, since your Cristal is 40 lvls behind
LKemme check what I used on that stage
My crystal isn't 40 levels behind? wut
@bright geyser 1-5 brutus shem tasi nemora lyca. 40 behind the opposing formation
Oh? At what point does arden fall off? Mine is dying really quickly but that might be because he's only L @fierce kayak
Your crystal is level 180 and your enemies are level 220+
Oh I thought you mean between my highest
@bright geyser At -40 its gonna be tough
But it is doable, but will take some rng, you can try the one I used or even swap in lucius and put shem backline I might try
@mild wing I've gotten pretty close a few times but Brutus on a rampage for 7 seconds wipes it all
@steel moat if you need a L+ Arden to feed others, and Arden really ohko. You can use R+/E+ Arden instead.
But what I meant is.. we still need Arden to root. Some says till around chap 22, some still using him further then that.
🙂
Any ideas guys? Any tank I put in front just insta dies
And with the typical brutus, shem, lyca... Im missing damage to kill ulmus
Alright thank you!
@haughty cloud can't help buddy. Sorry I still at 20-33.
Maybe @mild wing can ^

@haughty cloud What ch/stage is it?
20-36
Usually look at what I had first then adjust advice based on what they have so lemme look
Yeah I had 1-5 Brutus shem lyca nemora tasi. Levels are basically identical only lyca was ascended which may be the dmg difference may not
Might just take some bruteforce on attempts because everything else looks the same, but i know that formation worked
Hmm maybe i should work on upgrading her gear to get more damage
Yeah shemira dies right after casting , lumus to stronk
did she get rooted by arden? may need to dodge that
@steel moat
Ulmus stages always take me a lot of attempts, but the formation usually wins eventually
Yeah it might be just keep trying
'what heroes should i mainly use/level up?
@haughty cloud Could try to merc an ascended lyca but thatd blow your 1x/week
Better than just to be stuck 
yeah I blew mine already but it got me from 46-52
gotta use it sometimes, and if it doesnt work you still got ur merc win left
Should I feed my Brutus my Saveas and Ankhira?
I'd be using saveas, he is one of if not the strongest carry until 160
Not at level 120
Any help? Stuck on a non boss level 11-38 :v
@mild wing is lyca A really that good? I have her copies ready for A 
How do I even
@fierce kayak She is very good yea
@mild wing nice. Tq mate
@fierce kayak I usr her in like everything
Haste is just too good, and she can tank with dodge against some enemies and do decent dps
👌 I think Ice mentioned he relies on Lyca front a lot in chap 21/22 now
Is this lineup any good? I'm having trouble here
man, i can tell 20-8 is going to be an absolute joy
It gets worse 😄
Stuck on 11-16 and 141 tower. Whatever help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. 160 Saveas gets destroyed so not an option
it always gets worse
@broken granite eYyyy
I finally beat 20-16 just now LOL the trick was to get Tasi lowest defense
@bright geyser Always vs silvina'
Anyone help me on who I should focus on to beat this??
Hi buddy, we don't focus on building to beat one stage. We build for long run. I would say:
Pre 160, Savaes best carry, Arden L+ 141 best support.
160 to 240+/-: Meta team with Shemira 161+
Post 240: All heroes available in your roster to beat the stages.
Read up tier list at afkarena.net and #550491326479728650 Glourious Tier list to understand heroes better. Serius not a prority in invest and build now.
Pinned messages top right at
#550491326479728650
#lineup-help
#classic-questions
To help you understand game better.
Try:
Sav
Brutus
Roslaine
Estrilda
Belinda
@pale kettle^
Thoughts?
18-40 anyone?
@fallen token I won that with top down brutus lyca top down arden tasi shemira, maybe it can take some attempts but that comp works
Any advice for 15-40?
Is this lineup any good? I'm having trouble here (asking again because no one answered me earlier) any help is greatly appreciated, thanks.
Does estrilda die quickly?
@unreal storm seems like underleveled stuff. try afking for levels, do all possible tower levels for more dusts early asap then you should be good to go.. i'd level my dps first as compared to the rest 80% ofthe time followed by tankers, in this case i'd overlevel saveas first everytime.
Ideas?i need help with it
vv stuck on 16-24, I would like some ayuda
@lean ingot am i high or you leveled more than 5 heroes using your resources? need the answer to further advice
i hate getting stuck on non-boss stages but it keeps happening lol
warek pops right out of Arden's CC, then more than 5 seconds pass between that and Tasi's CC, and he just goes full honey badger and wrecks Shemira even with her ult running
@fresh lichen try swapping nemora in tasi out, put arden lyca nemora from top to bottom, nemora must charm either saveas/brutus/vurk, arden should lock other 3 to buy them for shemira. your dura artifact's usage could affect the outcome as well.
@golden stone if you're certain you're not using lucius for most part in chapter 20, just reset lucius to 180 and dump all the resources to get shemira 220, if i were you i'll try swapping tasi out for nemora's charm at Vurk since vurk's poison destroys Golus very fast, then i'll put arden bottom back to lock 3 heroes. then i'll put dura call on shemira to hope for early ulti. im not 100% it will work or not tho, just my opinion.
@sleek portal Do you remember 20-19 xD
I'll give it a shot
@bright geyser i used Ayuh Le and Vitaliy Belka's youtube videos to finish chapter 20 in 6 days, the only mercenary i used i think was Estrilda in one of the 20-3x.. you could give it a try.
Nothing survives long enough, Shemira pops 1 ult and then gets train stomped
Yeah, I have the same problem where my backline gets destroyed after one khasos axe
@bright geyser if i remember correctly, i used brutus against ogi, nemora middle back to charm opponent nemora to charm Ira(she wrecks the khasos in front) then arden first root before he dies, then the rest is shemira goes ham
@sleek portal Oddly enough, I passed it on a run where Nemora charmed Golus instead of Vurk lol. The formation you suggested worked though!
@golden stone i think your lineup could smoke chpter 20 if 1 more hero gets to 200 in the 5herolineup
Should I get Shemira to 220 or Brutus / Lucius to 200?
definitely shemira 220 first, the power rating increases like crazy from 200-220
10K more dust T_T
@bright geyser your best bet is try to go faction tower level 75, and finish all the remaining PoT for max dusts at your level
My Nemora refuses to charm enemy Nemora... Legit every single time it goes for Khaz
Should I do one of them or wait till I can do both?
@dreamy mesa it wont change any outcome tbh, i wouldnt ascend if i were you
Dead stuck on this level. Should I focus on getting Saveas to 140 or level the others?
Holy moly never mind. Just passed on a super lucky run
Any help with mine?
Man I wish there was a better way to deal with enemy ascended Silvina than either sacrifice someone or keep Tasi's defense low and hope she doesn't get one-shot
also i hate that "enemy ascended Silvina" is a thing. she's a legendary+ hero, dammit!
rowan sometimes counter silvina. she can get blinked on and still survive, sometimes even sustain
@round needle nothing, unless you're certain you can bring either lucius/belinda straight to A0
Damn you right
Is it worth making Rosa leg+
@north pelican try to use arden instead of rowan and see if it helps, arden usually helps root 3 and nemora locks 1(brutus/saveas/vurk best charm target), not sure if it works cause you're lacking 1 front tank and not sure how high of a dodge your lyca has against opponent.
@round needle rosalind is a very very very good hero, if you use her very often you should bring her to L+, im assuming you're p2w player judging by the very early M heroes you have. so if i were you i'll L+ rowan, she's awesome in guild hunt too
Is there a better lineup I could use or should I leave it how it is?
Kaz or ulmus next?
@foggy crane im probably not the best person to advice cause we're probably in the same chapters or so. but i'd say kaz, then again it depends on who you get to 8 copies first.
@sleek portal I just hit ch22. Trying to get a 5 man for each faction atm
Main team. 5k dust and brutus is 240.
Thanks @sleek portal
Im hard stuck here. Ive only been playing for a few days, so im pretty new. People have told me i got some decent heros, do i just need to level more?
@placid hawk you're considered severely overlevel atm so you'll probably find anything works. you'll come to a point where you'll realize athalia/lucius will become useless unless ascended to a higher level(they're both very ascension depdnant), definitely replace mirael to someone else asap(rosalind comes to mind). saveas can be used up till ch14/15 then needs replacement
Need help on 6-24 :/// please can't pass for 2 days
@pale kettle reset your skreg, useless hero, also you dont need to use resources on more than 5 heroes. use the resources to level saveas or tanks
@sleek portal thank you for the advice appreciate one question what do you mean when you say in considered severely overlevel
@round needle sorry im talking about rosalind not rowan lol, rowan good hero too, you were asking about rosalind and my opinion is yes rosalind very good hero in campaign and guild hunt
Only lvled 5 rest in crystal, even if I replace him I get bullied down so fast because of the Brutus :/ @sleek portal
@placid hawk your heroes are high enough level compared to the content you're facing that almost anything should work at this point - once you get to higher-level content, you'll have to worry more about team composition, but at this point it's not essential
@placid hawk USUALLY most of the time(90-95%), people go in to campaign fighting against opponent having 1-25 levels higher than their own. in your case you already have 3 heroes at 140 fighting against 127s.
Ooh okay thank you appreciate it very much
@pale kettle sorry went blind on belinda's colour lol. but you SHOULD be clearing the level cause i started an alt 5 days ago and have the EXACT lineup as your hero and im at chapter 7 now.... mind showing the enemy lineup screenshot?
@sleek portal ya I made Rosalind leg+ I never really used her but I can see why shed be strong
she's especially good in Wrizz fights
https://imgur.com/a/34nURS6 here is the lineup :p
@sleek portal sorry one more question so I'm replacing mirael with rosalind is it fine if I just reset mirael then
Or should I leave her for th crystal thingie
dont use hogan, use brutus to face brutus, saveas behind brutus, belinda can be middle back or top back, put nemora in for heal or ardenlevel81 for root, hopefully it works, but generally just use 1 more support/dps backline and replace the hogan @pale kettle
Mirael is pretty decent until midgame, I'd put her in the crystal
@placid hawk currently you need mirael's level140 so you dont get level capped at your ascensions, i'd say leave her at where she belong until you need to go further than the level140 cap, your goal right now is to bump everyone to 121(mini power spike there) and decide which 5 heroes to go L+ ASAP.
Okay thanks guys appreciate it
We stuck if anyone's got ideas :)
@Forever F2P (S62 21-21) thanks! Will try
Should I sacrifice my 160 Arden to get Nemora to L+? Currently stuck on 12-8
@outer rapids no, arden useful until chapter 20, in chapter 20 you can fodder him, and use E+ or R+ arden
E+ or R+?
elite+ or rare+
oh, also should I start using my regular L Belinda and sacrifice my L+ to get Lucius higher?
Belinda is probably worth hanging onto imo
even if I have another one lvl 1?
@outer rapids my advice for you is, reset farael, level nemora to 160, then when your 2nd arden gets to L+ feed him to nemora(only do this when you're level capped at 160)
It's a pain in the rear to pull more of her
I don't really have anything to replace Ferael though, maybe I should start using Grezhul?
basically you only wanna ascend further than L+ if 1. you're level capped 2. you're certain you can bring that hero to A0 later on(which requires 4 Elite copies of whoever)
@outer rapids reset farael and level nemora is just to not get stuck at level 140, you can still use farael as you please
But either way both Ferael and Grezhul are... work in progresses, but I love Ferael so far
Oh I can get Nemora to 160 probably without resetting him, I just got her to L+ hence why I'm asking
90 essence short... guess i'll do this tomorrow lol
Try
Nemora/Arden
Brutus
Athalia
Lyca
Shemira
put shemira on front line so she gains more energy faster? switch her and brutus? sadly you dont have fawkes
@frank moss shem never face ogi. Try
Tasi (Silv bait, remove her armor if needed)
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora (charm)
Bottom heroes buy time for Shem + tasi ulti.
thanks @fierce kayak i'll try in a bit 🙂
I don't mind resetting, anything I can do?
Am i doing something horribly wrong? My lineup currently is
The first four + Belinda. Something I should swap? I have it that way to get the bonus for 3 light guys - I know brutus is a charm, but i dont know what to swap without getting rid of the bonus
I'm not too qualified to help but from my experience here, Saveas is a HUGE life saver and worth putting time into. he's like the best unit early/mid
He has 1v5'd more times than I can count
@balmy stirrup And sometimes the bonus doesn't matter, Arden is pretty good with Nemora, what stage are you on?
@acoustic hawk: currently 6-24 - and a bit stuck. the brutus goes through my squad like a warm knife through butter
Well you beat the hard one at least, try
Belinda
Shemira
Arden
#2 on your hero list
Nemora
And just readjust the formation so that nemora is on whatever side Brutus is on, you might have to keep retrying until nemora charms him @balmy stirrup
just worked 😄
Crowd control is pretty busted and will get you through a lot of the tough ones, sometimes retrying is all you can do and hope you get lucky.
i have shemira leveled so hard that she just resets her health all the time. putting her in front has helped to get the ult off. had her in the back and she got cc'ed and then killed by brutus, before she could get the ult off. Thank you very much @acoustic hawk
any particular heroes i should focus in that list of mine? or am i doing everything right by accident? 😄
@balmy stirrup well meta heros are
Shemira, brutus, tasi, nemora, arden, lyca
Well the fact that you have a legendary that early into the game, that's going to make a big difference, just try to get Saveas up there and he'll be one of your best in the backline.
@balmy stirrup saveas can be used instead of shemira until lvl 160
@balmy stirrup so all laby coins on shemira and all factio scrolls on wilder and pray for brutus drops
ok, then i have to get saveas!
been a long time