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Also @oak lance You only need one more Mauler E+ fodder and you can make your Sav straight to L+
Is saveas really that good?
@lusty meadow yeah im trying to do that rn
@maiden quest silvina jumps arden
Aye @marsh oxide I believe other people think he is pretty good :)
if she jumps Arden, you can try that setup and RNG charming the enemy Saveas
That sucks cus I don't get him often my mauker fodder is golus cus I get 2 of him every draw I swear
Saveas is a bit low to carry that, though; you might need to try using Lucius/Belinda with the 3 wilders instead
@maiden quest Cleared it finally
what ended up working for you?
Went with this, Tasi managed to get her ult off with some decent Arden roots and then Shem just obliterated them
Had to get the lucky with roots/phases and Tasi teleporting to Arden
sounds like you still had Call on Tasi then, shows what I know lol
Nope, Shem had call :P @maiden quest
oh okay, feel better then ๐
Advice for 20-40? Thanks!
wheres @fierce kayak
shit, how do i show off to him then
@clear saddle ded
#classic-questions @tall seal
Been stuck here for a week
Still no luck getting past it @devout idol ?
Nope
Ah damn, I'm on the last stage in chapter 13, it's an absolute nightmare this chapter
I want to finish 13-4 so I can unlock a new area in peaks of time
Nevermind I just finished it lmao
if you're going to use Belinda, you want a way to recharge her ult, like Raine and/or Rosaline
I just moved her to the frontline xD
rowan is a better option
he's the best energy fuel imo, not just for belinda but lucius also
I always forget he exists because I don't have one lol
Finally cleared chapter 13, glad to be out of them damn mines ๐
dem fox mines
It's legit been over a week, and nothing seems to work
Any lineup recommendations regardless of lvl?
@clear saddle gratz on 21
ayy @fierce kayak tks buddy, i got ss for most stages though so @ me if you need ๐
@clear saddle ๐
@clear saddle This ain't working well for me, any advice plz ty
Its correct, but you need really good rng. I had to try some stages 100+ times
Damn, that rare+ Arden @clear saddle
gets the job done lol
Whatever works I guess :P ๐คท๐ฟ
@clear saddle so you retires Arden at chap 20?
yep, i did personally. it wouldnt hurt to still have L+ arden tho
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@clear saddle am I using correctly already given 50+ try on it
Yes, Although, if you can get brutus to 181 or higher, sometimes he can solo kill ulmus
I feel that I must use tasi for shemira
If you get your brutus to somewhere like that, he can take on ulmus by himself sometimes
Need help
Need help
Stuck on 9-40 any advice would be appreciated
@clear saddle
yes
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@median crow try this
Saveas
Hogan
Silvina
Belinda
Arden
Supposedly it's easier to kill niru first since he's only leg but if your teammate dies fast and he's healing himself swap saveas and arden position.
Thanks, will give it a shot
Stuck on 10-28
@copper estuary might work
frontline: golus/hogan (position whichever works better)
Backline: saveas (3), mehira (2), shemira (1)
@keen sphinx who did silvina attack?
It depends on who I put the better robe on, I can choose twins or mehira
@keen sphinx if you can get mehira to ult that would be great but if she still dies with/without the robe change her to fawkes. Should buy you a couple seconds for the other to ult
You also need dps so I suggest swapping the twins with belinda/shemira. Position them in the back middle so if silvina attacks them saveas can attack silvina
@last granite Any idea? I get close, might just be a case of trying it another 20 or so times see how RNG treats me
Holy hell. Figured Iโd put this here for anyone searching how to beat 20-21, since I had a lot of trouble beating this while underleveled. Brutus Shem Arden tasi lyca 1-5, 171 crystal, and a billion retries
@lusty meadow I would flip lyca and shem
@lusty meadow what patsy says. If you're close then chance are you just need to retry the stage many times. And I agree swap lyca and shem position.
Alright, will try that, thanks guys :)
Perfect, thanks @plucky flint & @last granite cleared it :)
@plucky flint you have mad patience for retrying billion times. I almost went mad retrying for 18-16 :')
Damn I tried with fawkes and Belinda didnโt get a single enemy rip. I think Iโll just afk a bit, im seriously underleveled.
@last granite I actually probably pushed harder on retries on other levels, but this was the longest Iโve ever been stuck at a wall.
@keen sphinx have you tried the holy trinity wilders? Backline tasi/arden/nemora/lyca + tank & dps frontline?
I have neither tasi nemora or Lyca lol
@keen sphinx feels bad man 
Iโm gonna get tasi from the next voyage though
@keen sphinx good luck! She's a big help if you can keep her until she ults
Could also get nemora from lab
@keen sphinx you should get her from lab if you dont have her yet.
She will be easier to get to ascended since you'd never need luck to get her copies (just lotsof times and maybe money)
This is my account about 10 days old and with advancement rewards, how would you rate the luck Iโve had with pulls so far?
@keen sphinx 9/10
Those are some grade S/A heroes
Hell, you got the twins twice and Mehira @keen sphinx
@keen sphinx well outside of missing the wilders thatโs an extremely good start
Feckin Ira is so annoying man
@keen sphinx word to the wise though, slow your roll ascending heroes to L. You want to at least be able to get them to L+ usually, and even then itโs not always advisable since you also need to build L+ fodder to get heroes to M and M+. Itโs important to game plan 5 heroes that youโre going to eventually take to M and beyond so you never get crystal capped.
Crystal capped?
@sharp egret meaning that on the resonating crystal when, for example, you have 4 leg+ hero and 1 leg hero, the other heroes that are on the crystal will be stuck at 140 because of that leg hero max level. When you have 5 leg+ heroes on the pentagram, the rest of your team will be able to maxed out at 160
@ember oak Hey there! ^^
Are there any acsensions available for you?
The team you're putting up against this kind of enemies seem to overpower you by quite a lot.
Are you able to ascend Saveas to Legendary, and get him above level 120?
Just completed it, nvm :P
I can make hogan L by using an E+ hogan but I prefer saving him to make hogan L+
@sharp egret more importantly, your highest leveled hero can only be leveled 40 levels higher than your crystal. So no heroes can go above 180 with a 140 crystal, 200 with a 160, etc. This can be a really major problem if you donโt properly plan to eventually have 5 M then M+ then A heroes
@ember oak Congrats on passing it! ๐
You should only ascend to L if you're going to use them, if not, then there's no use and you should hold onto your fodder.
That is, unless you need L+ fodder (which you don't, yet.)
@wise merlin I need a second elite+ fodder for my saveas and heโs L
stage 10-32
@stoic haven Hey there 
Give this a shot :
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Ira
Make sure you swap the best gears and artifacts! (If you have any)
@ember oak Only ascend him if you can take him straight to L+
@ember oak Best of luck further on dear friend 
Ty
@lusty meadow Saveas can also do work at L tier..
I've got duras grace on SaveAs @wise merlin
Better than E+, at that
Any help ๐ i have been stuck for a week in here
Ah okay, didn't know that, I'm sorry! @wise merlin
@stoic haven Give Grace to Hogan
Help
@wise merlin thanks :)
@lusty meadow Oh you're fine ^^ every Ascension tier matters at early stages.
Unlike middle-to-late game chapters where you can use support heroes at E+ / L tier and still win if you have a strong carry, at a high tier (Mythic+ / Ascended)
@stoic haven You're more than welcome friend 
@tawdry gulch try this
Nemora
Lucius
Athalia
Hogan
Ira
If this doesn't work try swapping athalia and nemora position
@tawdry gulch Hey! Try this out! :
Nemora
Lucius
Saveas / Shemira
Lyca
Hogan
If you'd prefer a formation that includes faction bonus, :
Nemora
Lyca
Belinda
Lucius
Hogan
@granite blaze if u use tasi instead Arden whom does she banish?
The exceptions to the โonly ascend if you can go straight to L+โ rule are any legendary tier heroes (since youโre guaranteed to get more copies of them in relatively quick order) and heroes that youโre committing to build that you can farm from the lab or challenger store (shem or nemora for example)
Wait tasi banishes?
Aye, she has a phase
@granite blaze her passive skill like astral
@granite blaze check pm Iโll send u few ss
Is the tasi banish the green thing
Oh I see thanks for answering my question earlier
@wise merlin @last granite thanks alot both
I tried shiya line up and it worked ๐
Thanks again for helping๐๐๐๐
Nice! Good luck further on! ^^
@tawdry gulch no problem! glad it helped ^^
Good luck you too @wise merlin
โคโค @last granite
10-32 help x.x
@wise merlin I'm not making a dent in Niru
Then swap Hogan's position with Saveas.
I'm sure he'll be able to pull it off faster on him.
How do I stop Ogi?
@stoic haven Nice ^^ glad it worked out for you, best of luck further on! 
@wise merlin any help for me aswell pls? ^^
@civic canopy swap lyca and shem
@civic canopy This looks like it should take the win, since if Arden will root both enemy Arden and Ogi.. you should be fine
@crude shuttle Of course! Let me take a look ๐ I'll come back with a response in a bit!
Anyone have any ideas on how I can get through this stage?
@crude shuttle this might help
Nara/fawkes/nemora
Grezhul
Tasi/fawkes/nemora
Brutus
Saveas
If you choose tasi/nemora, put them in the middle so silvina will attack them and by then saveas should be able to kill her
@eager jay i beat this stage using these
@wise merlin his Arden roots Me every time. Ogi smash at the beginning interripts me
@last granite the Problem is silv killing my weak backline and my front line doesnt kill their frontline fast enough so they kinda get sandwiched๐
@crude shuttle Nemora instead of Rosaline, charm enemy Saveas***
If targeted by Silvina, swap equipment between Belinda and Rosaline.
If Rosaline has better gear, make sure to swap that too with Nemora / Belinda.
Make sure Nemora has higher defense rating
Saveas, my bad. Not Arden. ^
@wise merlin
@civic canopy Then try this out :
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
@civic canopy swapping lyca and Shem is what I would try first. Then playing with positioning of other two backline spots
Hey all,
Iโm having trouble with 11-28.
My strat is usually to slow enemies until Tasi and Shemira can ult.
But so far Tasi gets 2 shot, Shemira ults but dies shortly after.
@last granite no luck with that combo
@eager jay I would try four wilders, lyca across from kaz
@eager jay are you able to do some damage tho? cause my secret to beating that stage is 50x retries no joke 
also, that lineup magic trick is to make mehira ult. If she's not close to ult then I'll think of another lineup.
Yeah, just totally hit or miss. I can get them low but they just can't get the job done
Helpu
@ripe beacon wouldn't it be better to swap shemira and brutus position? because even if your shemira is strong she wont be able to kill brutus when he's immune to damage. if you swap her with brutus she could kill ulmus (hopefully) and with nemora behind hopefully she can charm either ulmus or saveas.
also try swapping arden with tasi and put dura's call on her so she can ult asap
First mystic, oof. Any lineup or Iโm under leveled?
@last granite tried 30 times your lineup, shemira top eats 2 spears of saveas then is rooted by ulmus then saveas(charmed) kill ulmus and shemira ults whith 0hp and dies by saveas/khasos
Tasi or arden is Almost the same result, and 99% of the times tasi ults too late (even whith call)
@ripe beacon is arden able to 3 roots the enemy? can you show your full roster?
@last granite 20-36 Need advice plz ty
@last granite yes he can root multiple times this fight, full roster is meh but i can show you
@ripe beacon okay some stuff you can try:
- swap lyca with shemira. So frontline would be brutus and lyca (experiment with position)
- (shemira against ulmus) Put nemora in back middle and use athalia/eiron/nara (whoever can do a direct attack) against saveas so he doesnt kill shemira as quickly. Put dura's call on nemora so she can heal.
other than this I'm out of idea. Maybe other seasoned player could help you
Welp i try tomorrow because maintenance is up haha
Athalia vs saveas prob could work
@ember bane Ahh wilders again. How we hate this wilders wall. Anyway..
swap shemira and brutus position since ira and brutus has immunity it should be a little bit even. If you have athalia put her against arden so he can't root. If you need arden's roots for cc then you can lose lyca for arden. Swap nemora with tasi or lucius (not sure with lucius but doesnt hurt to try)
if you can show your full roster I might be able to think of other lineup
@last granite i need tasi +Shemira team Arden not much useful for it as I have tried 50+ already
@woeful fjord Put Eironn on middle. I think he can pull slviina ๐ (and shemira front of niru)
@astral marsh Maintnance ๐ laters but thx
@ember bane if you need tasi+shemira combo then try this
tasi
ezizh
nemora/lyca
shemira
athalia/nemora
Ezizh is only E but if you put mythic gears on him he should be able to tank for a couple secs, hopefully by then he can prevent enemy from ult. Hope it can help somehow, I'm not that good with endgame lineup ^^;
Which is better on a team; a mix of lightbearer,wilder,graveborn,mauler? Or should I just use one type for my team?
@mental viper mono teams work but very expensive and hard to make, its much more easier with mixed team
@weak nova I see and thanks for the tip
@ember oak are you close to winning with that lineup?
Which should I use to battle in duras quest?
@mental viper Might wanna retire your commons :)
@fierce pumice with some luck I can lose when 2 enemies are alive
@ember oak this is quite a hit or miss but you can try
arden
saveas
nemora
tasi
lyca
reasons why is because 4-faction bonus + tasi could run away after 1 hit and still survives. other than that you can try
front: lucius, estrilda/hogan
backline: saveas + 2 wilders
Ok ty
@lusty meadow alright ๐ and how about if I battle? What are the positions I should place them in? This is my current formation
@mental viper is isabella doing a lot of damage? because if not I'd rather use silvina
@last granite not much unless she is against mauler heroes
@mental viper okay, you can try swapping isabella with silvina or lyca then. You can try tasi/arden as well but I'm not sure his root is much of a help on early level
@last granite okiiiiii, ty
@mental viper i would suggest that you work towards a saveas carry. He works really well with brutus
Can some one help me with this?
@tawdry gulch just work positioning around till you win
Good morning all can any one tell me what will beat this
@tawdry gulch if you dont use niru/morvus go reset them and give the levels to your other heroes
@tawdry gulch also get saveas for your carry.
TIP - if you only have 2-3 enemy heros alive when you wipe, keep retrying you will win from rng
Thanks guys I'll try your suggestions and tell you what will happen with me @small acorn @last granite
Give me a hand I'm not sure who to use now.. and I can't upgrade my carry it's making me upset
@barren gate work on mauler fodder, saveas will still be better for you for a while
@grave hollow you should reset some of your heroes and get saveas to 120. Only level 5 of your top 5 heroes. Max 7 heroes since on early game you dont have enough room on resonating crystal
@mental viper nope, he is a maule4
@grave hollow try two mauler heroes in the frontline then a graveborn at the left hand side. For the backline heroes use lightbearers
@last granite i only have 5 lvled lol
@small acorn okiiii, ty
@grave hollow really? Cause on your roster the blue numbered heroes are only 4??? And they're capped at 61?
@grave hollow oh duh I am stupid and blind sorry
.
Mmokey try this maybe
Athalia
Lucius
Mehira
Gorvo
Saveas
You can try putting athalia against lyca/nemora since tasi can flee from attack
Tnx and it's all good I'm a pro and I too make mistakes lmfao @last granite tnx again
@last granite @small acorn @mental viper
I tried your tips but it did not work thats my new heroes
What heroes generally have the best sig items to level up?
@tawdry gulch I recommend this lineup
nemora
belinda
estrilda/saveas
hogan
ira
@fair sundial not too sure but generally people like grezhul and kaz sig, also go to #classic-questions . Lotso seasoned player there that can answer your question
I'm just getting absolutely nuked here
Guys im new to the game and was wondering if someone has a better lineup for me, currently i go lucius brutus
Athalia belinda saveas and im getting destroyed by this team
@lusty meadow power a bit low. But try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
@fierce kayak Yeah my backline is a bit scuffed, same with Brutus
@glass moat Your power Defintely is low for this level. Kill Vedan first. Try
Athalia
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Sav
You know what steps I should take going forward here on out @fierce kayak ?
Mid game ascension planning:
Don't rush for ascension from L+ to M onwards, same principle as don't go to L unless can go L+ right away.
You will wish to aim for top 5 Ascended white eventually, so meanwhile is to make top 5 M first. One hero per faction, last slot any faction.
Ask your self before ascend heroes above L+. Is this hero a carry like Shemira or essential hero like brutus? If it's not, you better think wise. It's better to ascend hero above L+ if you already have 4 copies of them ready for Ascended white.
Exceptions may be to break level cap to push Shemira above 200, so crystal need to be 180. I will ascend heroes I have copies ready go Ascended white or worst case shops heroes as I can continue buy copies of them.
@lusty meadow
@tawdry gulch try not to even level. You can read pinned messages here top right and #classic-questions
Overlevel Belinda or other carry 20 to 40 levels ahead
Yeah my power is too low ig, im at 8-20 and trying to reach 9-2 because thats when the guild store gear gets better jn the tavern. Thats the right thing to do right
@fierce kayak ok i'll try that thanks๐๐
@glass moat it's fine. Sometimes we climb too fast and forgot it's a afk game afterall ^_^
Yea my belinda basically carried me through all of it
Any advice?
@robust magnet What ch/stage?
Hello
@robust magnet lvl up shem to 240)
21-37
I need a help
I beat it with the exact same formatuon but my shem was 240 @robust magnet so either keep trying or wait and level
I m stuck on 12-12
@robust magnet try to use athalia at tasi to prevent her vanishing shem
@chrome swan As I said, SS the enemy formation and your heroes or we cant help you from just saying 12-12
@chrome swan ohhhhhhh I see, what is problem in there?
You need some cc
Cc means?
Crowd control
How can i do that?
Still stuck right here. Help is mich appreciated
Shemira can silence, nemora can charm. Try heroes like that
Look for heroes who can stun,knock up etc
@chrome swan Arden is a very good cc, Id use your nemora, the charm is a good cc
10-32 help pls x.x
Yup nemora is good. But i have no hero for acsend ๐
@chrome swan reset your nara & eironn
Then?
Put the resources to your carry
Ok brb. I m going to do it
Any help on 11-28?
@inner sparrow try this 4 wilders first
lyca
tasi
nemora
lucius
arden
@inner sparrow if that doesn't work then try this
saveas
lucius
arden/tasi/nemora
golus
shemira/belinda/safiya
safiya is like belinda (a burst dps) but from mauler so you can get faction bonus
@mental viper have you tried the meta team? 3 wilder cc + brutus + saveas?
@last granite Gould does too fast to be a useful tank
What can I do with this? Stuck on 10-21 and tower 128
@last granite I havenโt yet and imma try that though my wilders are low leveled huhu
@inner sparrow then try swapping him with athalia
@mental viper if you got good gears even when they're low leveled you can prolong their life a little bit
@compact ferry send screenshot of your stage please
There you go
@last granite okiiiii, lemme see first or check
Tower
@compact ferry mm alright try this for campaign
saveas
lucius
arden/fawkes
hogan
athalia/shemira
http://prntscr.com/ovjfte http://prntscr.com/ovjhlb any idea for a lineup
Any ideas for this?
@whole granite might work if you can keep mehira alive until she ults, but if not then try fawkes
saveas
brutus
lyca/mehira/fawkes
estrilda
belinda
@ionic quest try the meta team first then if it doesn't work try this
athalia
shemira
arden/nemora/tasi
brutus
saveas
also since now you have shemira try to level her 20 levels above the other
Someone?
@chrome swan is morvus doing well as a tank? you might need cc so I recommend swapping either belinda/khasos with nemora/ira. If lucius dies too fast you might wanna put athalia against saveas to lessen the damage received
Hi can anyone help me to get pass this????
But i dont have legendary athalia๐ @last granite
@chrome swan doesn't need to, you just need to disable saveas for a while and athalia can do that even if not legendary
My current lineup is fine until nemora decided to heal all of the enemy team.. then I lose. (Not using the one in the picture)
@last granite so what can i do do i change movus
hit chapter 11 thanks to the earlier advice :)
@chrome swan i he dies too fast but gives a lot of damage put him on backline and change him with a tank (golus/hendrik)
Any advice on this lvl?
@chrome swan
athalia/khasos/morvus
lucius
ira/nemora
golus/hendrik
silvina
choose ira to poison and slow down enemy. choose nemora if you prefer to charm them (rng until she charms brutus)
Any tips?
@last granite tell me 5 heroes that i should use
Any lineup?
@chrome swan kinda hard to just tell 5 since this game need a lot of experimenting on comp. No lineup is the best lineup
@last granite so how can i beat them?
Shiya with both lineups you gave me best run was ogi, the girl and nemora left but nemora completely healed them so I lost
@ember oak Any help for my stage?
My stage is lower than yours ๐
Oh lol ok
16-40 makes me want to throw my phone.... help please?
At 12-12 now stuck lol I don't even know how I got here with these heroes lmao
Someone has a good lineup?
Someone help me
@chrome swan so like this
Morvus
Lucius
Belinda
Shemira
Silvina
@oblique stone my shemira is not legendary
@chrome swan use the mercenaries one, and yeah you have a L shemira
Oh yes
@ember oak switch saveas for Belinda and try that
Please nobody got a lineup?
@chrome swan ok, really all I can say is wait to do adventure later because you are pretty under-ascended, so just try to ascend your heroes
@oblique stone but i have no hero for acsend ๐
ideas?
16-40 anyone?
@spark agate
arden
brutus
tasi
shemira
saveas
if you dont want your hero to get cocooned by ankhira then
tasi/arden
brutus
saveas
shemira
athalia
20-54 btw
Oh yeah can anyone help me here
Any suggestions ๐
@oblique stone using Belinda didnโt work, she doesnโt do anything dps to get rid of the enemies enforce they kill my team
@worthy grove try this
Tasi
Brutus
Belinda
Arden
Nemora
Feeling sad i really cant beat that stage๐
@chrome swan just afk for a while mate and gather some resource. It's not all that bad
Any ideas for this?
@oblique stone thank you worked ๐ now stuck on the last stage
How do I make his level WEAKER
Do i have to step on blue or green tiles ?
@pale kettle the less you step on the weaker he is
@pale kettle Step on only the blue or green titles needed steping on them increases his power
His level cant be below 230 ?
@worthy grove first of all, reset tasi and put brutus on the resonating crystal for higher level caps
Also, try this:
Nemora
Arden
Tasi
Brutus
Saveas
Last level in labyrinth. Help
Youโre really under leveled
I am. But it's the last level. I have no idea what to do, those are my last heroes
This is what i have. Dura tears worth it?
@old ore if you dont want to use dura tears then try this
nemora
shemira
saveas
warek
rosaline
other than that you really need to use your dura tears. Next time you do labyrinth you can go to #classic-questions and ask which relics you should choose. Also before you use dura tears use your last comp on the enemy and only after that you use dura tears
I beat it actually
I think your total heroes are under leveled honestly. Iโd use
Arden
Hogan
Saveas
Walek
Tasi / nemora
I don't know how to check a log, but i used a different lineup. No tears wasted
@old ore it's all good. Congrats for beating it!
Any good lineup?
I put
Rosa
Saveas
Nemora
Warek
Shemira
@ember oak try:
arden/belinda
lucius
nemora
hogan
saveas
2 DPS?
@last granite thank you very much but my team is just too weak for that, 100k power lower. But anyway, Iโll try that line up later when the team gets better
@ember oak yes 2 dps, I feel like if nemora can charm ira/ogi you dont need as much cc so with 2 dps it would do better, faster damage. Could be wrong tho :/
Got mixed feelings about by early pulls because they are good but not eaely game. What lineup is the best at this stage?
Anybody got any suggestions
@last granite both are hard bets, am I under leveled and should keep trying?
@ember oak most likely. I'm not so sure about underlevel myself since I've often think that I'm underleveled but by some ungodly miracle I got through the stage. But you could try to aim for leg+ saveas and overlevel him, that should help tremendously
Okay ty
14-40 help pls I'm stuck
@median shell try
lyca/arden
brutus
nemora
shemira
tasi
or you can use silvina/athalia against mirael to delay her casting fire shield
Help me!
@twilit wind okay you are new so read first 2 pinned posts in #classic-questions
Mmmmhmk
I still need help...
@twilit wind if nemora can't charm anyone use rosaline, she should help lucius ult so your team last longer
saveas
brutus
nemora/rosaline
lucius
fawkes
Need some help ๐โ๏ธ
@hoary quest maybe try this
twins/belinda
lucius
tasi
hogan
saveas
Any wrizz/soren suggestions?
Thnx @last granite it worked;))
@twilit wind you're welcome! Glad it helped ^^
@sleek acorn idk if this will help
i cant beat 20-54, any ideas?
@tacit kayak I would swap either lyca or tasi with athalia and put her against:
- ira/estrilda if they're doing a lot of damage to your team
- arden so he can root but you can
@tacit kayak youtube is your best friend when it comes to chapter 20.
im having such a hard time versus ulmus ๐ญ ๐ญ my best results have been with kaz dps so far
oh wait lol my gears all fcked up bc of guild hunt -__- ill keep trying with it fixed LOL help is appreciated regardless
(just beat it! x))
@last granite Thanks, Ill give it a go
@lapis sand switch lyca and tasi, and remove gears from tasi, so silva will jump on her. Give shemira horn and roll till u win
Suggestions for 11-36 ?
Khasos and Saveas are wrecking their lanes.
And Arden isnโt able to root opponents quickly.
@pale kettle go for saveas and if ever keep seraphim
Any advice for 20-40? Thanks
@zinc wren keep layla, replace tasi with lucius or grezhul. For your backline, keep mary and also brutus and shemira in the front lines
Any ideas for a line up
@zinc wren
Arden
Shem (sword)
Nemora
Brut
Lyca
Keep dieing here
@tame solar you'd want to reset your shemira and get your saveas up isntead, she becomes really good only at 161.
Also put khasos in the middle back and saveas instead of khasos. switch places between arden and tasi
Okay ill try that thanks
sav
@little echo focus on brutus, saveas, arden, silvana, grezhul
Any ideas for new team I can have? Rn using ulmus, skreg, shemira, niru(when will get 1 more shemira he will be food), kelthur,
Mean that the team and I need kinda help pass it, just did 11-4 some hours ago
@torpid turret Hi buddy. You should read some guides, tier list and pinned message here and in #classic-questions, top right corner. Else you can't process far. You heroes prority is... quite a mess.
Try this for now.
Tasi
Brutus
Khoas
Skeg
Belinda
Skreg is quite a awful hero
Ok thx, just with my luck I can't get enough dups to make them high tier, Brutus I got at chapter 7 it 8 but only 1, at chapter 9 or 10 got his dup, the graveborn have alot of solo heroes, and will try now
Skreg good for me because he get not alot damage from saveas
@fierce kayak is nara good for endgame?
Btw u mean khasos?
@sharp hornet not sure about that but nara I heard is good. Especially for faction tower
@torpid turret yes. Sorry for my spellings
That ok,
@fierce kayak okay thanks was thinking about using her to make grezhul L
Ok thx u, that work for me, btw I hear day or 2 ago about the wild trio, try do the trio?
@torpid turret you have good heroes. But need to get the basics right and heroes tier.
@sharp hornet try not to use Ascended Tier hero as fodder. Patience rewards you in the game.
Ok, so I should go and learn the thing from the pinned?
@fierce kayak yeah I know lol. Just stuck on this damn level still been a few days. I spent 10 faction scrolls on gb today and got another shem, currently at 33k lab coins so hopefully 2 or 3 more and I can get her. I already have a vedan L+ for her to eat as she is an L currentlt
@torpid turret yup
Mean I got to the place I lost again so I will look in
Is it any good? Should I move someone?
Am in think yes, khasos with the 5th, but that me.
@fierce kayak I found 1 think I wasn't able remember and that the faction advantages
@white dawnuse shemira and replaced hogan
Shemira instead of Hogan? I heard she's good only at 161
@white dawnyup but she is good as usual
The HP boost kinda important here so I think better he won't, try first without then with shem
Anyone help me plz, i m stuck on 12-12
any idea how to beat this?
Kings tower 227 double vedan sucks
In lvl 161 her ulti heal her while it on and that why she is good at 1v5 @white dawn
@chrome swan sorry can't rlly help u, but someone will answer or they think about lineup then will say
@white dawn use estrilda infront of brutus and replaced hogan by khasos and use shemira in the corner
I don't have Brutus
@white dawn i know i meant u can estrilda against brutus
Oh ok thanks!
Use* my pleasure
Stuck on 13-4 need some advice and here are my current heros
14-40?
@small grotto I did that with a full LB team
@coral frigate
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Arden roots estrilda
Kings tower 227 please help ๐
Pepehands helpplz
What setup would you do with this to progress?
@slender bay youโll be blessed by a little easier gameplay if you level Saveas. Heโs an amazing carry
so what help are you looking for monkaW @pale kettle
@sleek portal well Iโm getting wrecked in both campaign 10-12 and kings tower 130 so Iโm wondering what I could do to well not die. Figured it could be a lineup thing more than overall lvl
Any way to fit Belinda into what I have?
@pale kettle I see a lack of CC in your heroes; you should start by raising (and not foddering) Arden
@sharp egret synergy matters more than ascension level (particularly since Legendary isn't that huge a jump on stats over Elite+); I wouldn't try to fit her in roughshod
@sharp egret in super early game, belinda can even be in front line as a semitank-nuker just cause she's at L tier right now for you
@pale kettle you have too much dps 0 tank 0 cc, hogan is not reliable tank, and also reset belinda and level hogan so you dont get level capped and there will be a mini power spike when you bring everyone to 121.
@pale kettle also, shemira is not really good in the early-transitioning to mid kinda game, she's only useful from 161 onwards, you might as well as put her in crystal and level other heroes, judging by your hero pool its easy to do a 3-1-1 or 3-2 to take advantage of the bonus health and atk
@sleek portal she dies in about a half second, Rowan dies (same equip) in much longer thanks to his abilities
I need some more summons lol
exactly, you're really in the SUUPER early game, lineup shouldnt be your concern because you'll never know what you'll pull, in early game its all about level
Alright. I do disagree with that a bit because Iโm much farther than a lot of people at the same level because of how Iโve managed my comp
@sleek portal So based on the information provided, I should use Lucius, Saveas, Belinda, Tasi since Arden is only Rare, and unsure on the fifth?
Best lineup i have no clue tbh
@pale kettle if your lucius doesnt die in 3 seconds sure use him, but if you're going saveas you might as well as max him out and leave the rest at 121, and try to come up with heroes that benefit saveas like safiya/belinda in your lineup as they buff him in the fight, i dont really know how to efficiently play Saveas 1v5 strat cause i didnt use him to progress..
Total noob.. what do I do next .o.
@lofty yew you're too early in the game, just keep palying and level, summon more and we can further advice
@cswl level 5 of your best rarity heroes equally and just rush to campaign as far as u can
Yes i mean which heroes do I focus on
I like how everyone new has an L Belinda thanks to the event lol . Someone better will probably reply @pale kettle but your Sav isnโt doing much so under leveled, he is an excellent early game carry, ros doesnโt need to be that high unless sheโs doing more for you than I think, and fab is shit
Stuck on 10-40, vedan kills everyone, feel like crying Iโve been stuck here for 2weeks
When i got rosaline i got pulled thru an entire chapter putting her in place of saveas
Which hero's should I use the most? I dont use many of them so Idk who's good
@warm ocean ok thanks ill try it out
@lofty yew it really doesnt matter tbh, you're probably 5 minutes into the game, just level any 5 heroes(not the green ones) and you're good
@drowsy hemlock most people would advice using wilder trio backline and front line for you you can use estrilda/belinda/brutus/saveas for now
Hi, can you help me please with my lineup for campain? I don't even know who should I use as dps: shemira, eiron or saveas that I could ascend to elite
@regal swallow you should try to get 5 heroes that can get you to L+ asap, there is a mini power spike from 120-121 for all heroes, then you need to get arden to 141 asap for him to utilize the triple root, and if you're ever planning to use saveas it is best to over-level him so he can 1v5
17-6 please this just absurd my team dies directly me shem is full mythic gear too
@sleek portal I can make a few ascensions but idk if I should do that with ones that Iโm not gonna use
@uncut pendant focus on raising Saveas as your main damage-dealer: try to have him at level cap relative to his ascension, and also raise Arden; with your current heroes, though, you could also try a lightbearer comp
@uncut pendant for now i might use arden nemora rosalind backline, and put lucius + 1 in front, not sure how well that works out but yeah arden can double root on 1 side and nemora can charm 1 enemy on the other side, rosalind is kind of a broken hero now, front line can be lucius + saveas(overlevel) or shemira(will be useless soon unless 161) or hogan(for 3-2 bonus health and atk) for now
@regal swallow the safest way is to ascend Legendary tiers, and leave all the ascended tier at E+ until you're certain you can bring them to L+ | Legendary tiers who are at L+ can be used a fodders later on.
@lyric ridge focus on using only one carry --- you have both Shemira and Belinda; you need more CC (Arden/Tasi/Athalia)
I got a bit stuck here, which one should i max and force. Pls help me with the lineup too, I dont think its the best so far.
@maiden quest @sleek portal Thank you very much! I'll try it out
Who out of these should I ascend@sleek portal ?
@regal swallow arden 100% arden 141 is very very very powerful for CC
@oblique kindle i usually do not ask people to re-roll in new servers, but numisu and Kaz dont really perform well in campaign progress... BUT THEN AGAIN you're probably 30mins into the game so just focus on any5 ( maybe saveas/kaz/numisu/ogi/arden ) for 3-2 bonus for now | can only further advice when you're probably 1 week into the game
@sleek portal
Lol this old man Thoran is solo carrying me...
But he spends too much time.. uhh pooping?
honestly, rerolling in this game doesn't mean much because you need SO many duplicates: even if you got lucky early on, it says nothing about your luck later on and even if you had bad luck early on, it doesn't mean you won't get lucky later
@sleek portal after ascending Arden I need 1 more to get all W over 121, who should i ascend?
I have had pretty average-bad luck with pulls in this game, but it hasn't been too bad because mainstay heroes like Saveas and Shemira can be obtained reliably
@regal swallow i see you have enough resource to bring vedan straight up to L+ for now, you should probably do that, the point here is to not get level capped, you can opt to not use him
Hey guys, stuck on 10-4 just got here though. Any tips on beating this or should I wait a bit longer?
@maiden quest exactly, rerolling doesnt do much, but new players might panic cause they didnt get the "op" hero 1-2 days into the game..
yeah, but I think new players also get fixated on the OP heroes to the detriment of their progress, because they try and raise Brutus and Shemira way too early, instead of focusing on Arden and Saveas
it pains me when I see all these new players post their team comps and they don't even have Saveas or Arden because they've foddered them to Shemira or whoever else
@exotic egret nemora must charm saveas, belinda front line, put lyca middle back for haste, arden at bottom back for CC, you need to consider leveling all heroes to 121 now, 140 brutus usually dont do much, people usually over-level saveas.
Saveas is destroying me and one silly question but
if you put lyca in, nemora should charm opponent saveas fast enough that he actually helps you kill off 1 enemy by himself
How do i position nemora to actually charm saveas?
Anything to change on lineup ?
Nemora tends to charm the enemy opposite her; you have to just reset the stage over and over until she actually does
@exotic egret you can try this, hope it helps
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Belinda
Arden
Oh alright, but saveas is 2 shotting everything except brutus and brutus aint killing fast enough
https://i.imgur.com/3tgFmiw.jpg What team should I use for the Divine Realm Peak of Time? Most videos are just people using a 240 Shemira soloing it :/
@lusty meadow pretty sure the normal meta lineup can help you clear any PoT
Help me i m stuck on 12-12
The trinity of Wilders and Brutus + Shemira? @sleek portal I've tried that but Brutus just gets wrecked :/
@lusty meadow honestly, I wasn't able to clear Divine Realm until I had Mythic'd my Shemira and gotten Mythic gear on her; the team comps in there are really nasty, particularly the Ascended Brutuses, because they can solo-wipe your party
Someone help me
please don't spam mridula, other people need help as well and it's hard to see
I m not samping i need help that's all
Ahh okay, I figured, it was such a huge step up from The Far Frontier @maiden quest
Anyone got tipps? With this set up i had ~3/300 trys where either brutus or ferael survived with 1hp
yeah, Peaks of Time goes from you being able to beat it when they open to not being able to beat it even chapters later lol
@lusty meadow its either you level more, or you need to get super lucky with relics, im sure i did it with 165 shemira and the rest at 150-160 using meta lineup, you should probably also get 141 for all heroes for now, but yeah that PoT is the start of all bullshit PoT, you need to get all atk, and reset cooldown for shemira
I canโt get far into the second peaks of time lol
@maiden questany tips for my stage?
@chrome swan I was looking at your heroes, and you're in kind of a weird place that makes it hard. basically, the way to beat 99% of stages is to have a team composition where you have a single hero who does a ton of damage and then other heroes to hold off the enemy (tanks and crowd control) while they do so; however, you don't really have any crowd control (heroes like Nemora, Tasi, Arden)
@sleek portal dude i 1 shot it with your lineup suggestion, thanks ๐
@maiden questbut i have nemora
@chrome swan from what you have, I would say using Belinda, Lucius, Raine, and Nemora makes sense (position Nemora opposite the enemy Saveas and just reset the stage until she charms him); I'm not sure on who I'd recommend for the last hero, but your Silvina is not a bad option
Any tips ? It's my reroll. I dont know how i can pass it
Guys who do i pick in the lab to help me beat 5-40? Nemora or shemira?
@chrome swan yeah, I mean trying to use that team composition; you should probably try and read some new player guides because your hero list is a little wonky, but not irreparable
@copper fossil shemira
@maiden questso what u suggest, what should i do to pass it?
@copper fossil lots of people recommend Shemira but I personally recommend buying Nemora first (just once) before buying Shemira because Nemora will help you make a LOT of PvE progress, but you won't use Shemira until much later on
Yeah thats what i was thinking.. I would probably reach 45k again before Shemira gets good...
lol Shemira doesn't become super useful until she's Mythic, which takes 4 copies of her
I experiement many heroes to pass my stage but still i became failed
๐ฆ I Guess Nemora then
@chrome swan your heroes are in a mess right now. For now, just build arden to L +. Arden LVL 141 counters saveas pretty hard. Once you get enough shemira copies, feed silvina to shemira to get her to mythic
@mridula this is the team I've been using for a while and I'm at 13-20 if you can get something close to this it might work idk
Any advice on this? 22-36
At a wall. What's y'alls suggestion?
@chrome swan try a backline of Nemora on top, Raine mid, Belinda bottom, and then maybe Lucius/Hendrick in front, or something like that; I'm having a rough time finding an "obvious win" with your hero lineup
@maiden quest @drowsy hemlockthanks guys if it's work i will infrom u guys
Anything I can do guys or do I need levels?
@finite adder if possible get your shemira to 141 and put arden into resonating crystal
(11-16)
@placid delta Yeah thats what ive been thinking too, almost enough lab tokens to get another one of her
@finite adder are you dying too fast in this stage or lacking DPS?
Dying too fast by the looks of it, Gotten dow to a 1v2 but wasnt enough
Well just got some lucky RNG and beat it...
@finite adder replace belinda with nara and place her opposite of belinda
Any ideas? Vurk just decimates entire team
Idk I would say use 4 light bearers but keep brutus for faction advantages
@cinder crag
Thanks for help but I passed it Rosaline and tasi carried me lol
any tips for 10-4?
Suggestions for 21-60?
(11-16) anything i can do here or do I need levels? Any help appreciated ^^
Try Arden lyca tasi back
I would actually do Nemora/Lyca/Arden backline and Lucius/Saveas frontline
@oak zephyr try saveas bot and Arden top
You might have to reroll a lot for good cc
I'd prioritize Arden rooting the bottom because if you can charm Saveas with Nemora, the top isn't dangerous
@maiden quest thanks Iโll try that
Lucius dies instantly up top and nemora only charms ogi
have to reset until she successfully charms Saveas, or you could try Arden up top, like Mat recommended
^^ thanks fam
She charmed ogi but their saveas couldnโt kill mine. Then when ogi died she charmed saveas and he killed that archer chick I just had better sustain than them with Lucius ^^
nice nice
I need help with 13-4 please
I would swap Brutus and Shemira because Ankhira drains energy which prevents Shem from ulting; would also consider swapping Nemora for Athalia and positioning her opposite the enemy Shem
It doesnt work :/
what kills you
Shem and Vedan
also just realized this, but don't use Brutus pre-141; he's useless
I will wait until i get everyone to 141 but ty
I feel like you might still be able to do it, although hitting 141 will be the way to do it for sure; try putting Saveas in instead of Brutus and then try putting Dura's Call on Shemira
I tried all that heroes that u guys tell me but sill i m failed. Is there any other way to ascend heroes cz brutus killed my heroes
@foggy crane this team did it for me
I'm fuccked
lol what is that party; I can't tell what it's supposed to do
@bold musk you could try to reset your heroes, make saveas 160 and others 120. You should get an arden to lvl 141 asap. A support backline like arden lyca tasi/nemora helps a lot in campaign
is that campaign or lab?
Lab
might want to show your relics too, then
Can't get my Arden to pop off before enemy. Any tips?
Floor 78 wilder, any thoughts?
Hi any advice for 18-32 ?
any suggestions? can't get past this stage, 10-19, isabella always gets into 1v1 with saveas and he always loses
@timber solar Try using the Shemira you borrowed instead of Hogan, and replace Silvina with Lyca to get the haste buff
shem is on cooldown right now but once its back on ill try, is lyca better than silvina rn? in this lineup
I would say so, due to the increased amount of attacks you can do. If you do get Shem back, place her where Lucius is and Lucius where Hogan is, since she is still a bit squishy at that point due to her level
alright, i'll see what i can do , thank you
@timber solar if you donโt pass tag me and show all heroes you have
12-40. halp pls โค current team is Shemira, Estrilda up front and Nemora, Arden, and either Belinda/Saveas in back
@hushed valley need to see the level ๐
oh duh, right one sec. xD
I'm kinda stuck in chapter 6 atm and well luck hasn't exactly been on my side draw wise, can you guys suggest a line up from mine, brutus has all purple gear to
Try
Nem
Estrilda
Lyca
Shem
Arden
even though shes just epic?
Yes her haste gives everyone 70 energy
Any lineup suggestions? Is faction bonus thata important after all?
that worked ๐ haha amazing... thanks. I had planned on using her soon, but I felt like plain old epic was good enough you know?
World tree level 80 help me please
Eironn, to pull both eironns. If you have 1.
Nope
definitely need eironn
need help at 8-20
the more higher the more he is needed, mostly because wilder lacks aoe dmg so much
for reference
Kings tower 227
@warm ocean Try
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
also, whats was your 225?
what about mine?
Brutus Hogan front,
Saveas Tasi Nemora(Mehira) back.
Read pinned in #classic-questions @gritty socket
ok
Stuck on 18-36, any ideas? Usual lineup is brutus tasi front, Lyca nemora gorvo back
it worked thanks
@tame acorn nemora on the middle to charm ferael
Any suggestion? Floor 275
@frigid dagger my Guildie beat it with grez kaz nara shem and I think brutus
@sage mango does tasi get a chance to ult
Hi guys, any chance of passing this with these heroes? Stuck for a few days now
Wilder 81
@wise stream make shem 161 you kinda just start winning
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
@warm ocean thought so, was hoping to clear some stages before that. Will take about a week to get the last 2 heroes to 140
Stuck on 19-36, annoyed
@wise stream you can make someone 40 levels higher then the lowest so just make her 161
@limber copper you always run shem and lyca thats your problem, well one of them at least no lyca
All heroes must at the pentagram must be 140, thats what it says when i try to level up shemira
So cant get her to 161 before i level the others to a ninimum of 140, or am I missing something
Ok, then ill just have to take it slowly for now
@indigo jolt arden gets one shot and tasi lives long enough to put them to sleep but brutus is last one standing with her
Switch gear, so jumps to tasi. Give tasi M gear with hp not def off shem if is 1 shot with no crit.
19-6
@prisma granite
Thx ill give that a go
May need chalice on Shem, if still cant tank Kaz at start.
Oh need to get chalice from pot then
Try
Shem
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi.
see if that works, need arden to cc other arden minum
lol...
Somehow arden still is prioritized even with tasi in no gear.
What are there defense,silv always jumps to lowest.
Check defenses
@indigo jolt
I'm currently running tasi nemora lyca shemira brutus. Any changes you wanna suggest according to character ascension levels.
Some help,
@honest storm rosa next to belinda, replace thoran with saveus or arden
@grave currentu need leg+ heroes to pass. Ur heroes are not higher level. Try to make ur brutus leg or mythic
oh rip ๐ฆ
@grave current That labyrinth?
who does fawkes coffin?
no one for some reasons...wtf
Kaz probably dodges it. Drop fawkes for athalia, and move athalia opposite nemora.
19-28
yeah.
do you have any crystal spots? and you should really reset your other levelled heroes.
Stuck at 10-36 any help would be massively appreciated.
Only one crystal spot or more?
yes
Arden then, you need cc.
how do i position everything now
@indigo jolt Do you know if twins are available on the test realm event or only athalia for celestial
you mean the medals one?
ya
only athalia and ezizh, theirs a reddit post with all the relevant images.
ah didnt see it on there, I forgot to save, cool
What to do here?
Help with team pls
10-40 please help, still stuck here for now ๐ฆ
Can somebody help?
Help pls
Could use some help here 14-37
@hasty nebula what type do you prefer or you usually use? Try to have a mix of that and use saveas, sherim, layla, the twins, skreg, Valkyrie
@regal swallow try to level up Arden / the undead king/layla,use the twins, the new mauler Mostly use characters to be able to stun or block
Please Iโve been stuck here for a long time. Any good lineup?
@winter burrow since most of them are graveborn, use characters like brutus, sherim, grezhul, the cat woman, the new graveborn, Arden, the new lightbearer (the child). They will either stun the enemy
@grizzled galleon Regarding wilder heroes, sherim, grezhul, the mauler guardian, skreg. Level up your lightbearer hero (the one next to the new mauler hero)
@mental viper everyone dies too quick :/
@regal swallow I see, M + heroes are hard to handle so hmmmm try to use a different strategy of heroes or a mix
@mental viper you got any lineup for me please? Iโve been stuck in that level this whole day
@mental viper any idea who I could use then :/
Having trouble with 11-40, using rowan Arden, nemora on the back, shemira Lucius on the front. Any suggestions?
Hmm Try Arden Saveas Nem in back, Lyca and Brutus in the front. Shem isn't really frontline material until after she gets her power spike at 161 @spice flax
i dont know my brutus dies really quickly, ill convert my lucius gear to him and try it out. is Lyca's dodge high enough for that stage?
Not really, she'll more than likely die anyways, but her buff before then will come in handy for the other champs since even if she dies early she'll buff your other champs
Better to get that buff and have that early on than to lose a Shem and be down completely
if you need the dps, swap Nem with Shem, play around with the 3rd slot and see what works
This maybe?
Swap Arden and Nem, Nem should go top right
top left, rather (in the top slot in the back)
You should reset your saveas and make your Shem 161 imo
@ember oak nah that would drop his other champs to below 140, wouldn't recommend that just yet
Alright
Granted that is a valuable method, she'd certainly carry hard
Not sure if my saveas is strong though
He should still be decent enough to push some dps, granted he's not ascended to Legendary+
If you have to, try swapping him with Shem and see if she can crank out the dps before everyone dies off
@empty stream can you help me pls
which floor is that, I think I just passed it earlier today
Lemme check my screenshots
@empty stream you screenshot every passed level? XP thatโs pretty sweet
Yeah, it gives me a reference to look back at since I used to just skip them not realizing what I used to actually beat them lol
@torn lava there are a few posters here that do this. Itโs a super helpful resource. I always search for the stage Iโm stuck on before asking for help and 90% of the time a good comp has already been posted.
@grizzled galleon Try swapping Lyca and put shem on the front line, make Nem slightly stronger so that Silv jumps to him first
Ideally put Tasi in his place, I remembered I got a lucky dodge on her which made it work if I recall correctly
@grizzled galleon doesnโt arden get one shot with that lineup? Would think you need to run tasi/nem instead
Is tasi and lyca really that strong?
@pale kettle Yes, those two have literally carried me through most of chap 20
@pale kettle yes. Haste and tasiโs ult are absolutely must runs for my lineups
Well I'm still a newb, but should I be using them over my elite+? I'll send a ss in a sec
I think there's only 2-3 fights in Chap 20 where you won't be using the both of them at some point, the Tasi/Nem/Lyca combo is really strong lol
The other nice thing about them is their ascension levels arenโt that important. Theyโre helpful, of course, but they are still v useful at E/E+
So I should probably try those 3 plus my bel and lucius
@pale kettle tbh, I would swap sav for bel. Get him up to 120 ASAP then ascend him to L+. Also, build an arden. Heโs more useful than nem on many many stages
^^ Arden is extremely useful throughout most of the campaign
Appreciate the help, only started a week ago but don't wanna make too many bad decisions on my own lol
@pale kettle check the pinned messages in the #classic-questions channel. Some helpful guiding principles in there
Awesome!
@grizzled galleon Tryt Tasi/Shem/Arden if you want to keep Lyca in the front
The CC you will most certainly need but I would definitely put Tasi in there
That's 20-33 right?
Stuck here for a few days now, the silvina just fucks up any support i put in, any ideas?
arg can't do this, saveas either doesn't survive enough to ultimate or doesn't dish out enough dmg, i dont know. i might have to wait until i can get saveas to 141-160
Did you try Shem in his place? She might work on the backline but definitely not in the front at that level
@spice flax
might also be that brutus doesn't sling off his ult when he gets to 1% lol once my frontline gets shredded the back just gets picked on. i am also one golus and one rare saveas away from L+ saveas
Hmm...instead try Arden/Saveas/Shem instead on that backline
Help me, I've been stuck for weeks ;~;
Thats my most successful team at the moment, any suggestions ? Can I do better with wht I have ? Surprisingly I was stuck somewhere and managed to win by putting Ezizh instead of Fawkes, I didnt expect that,probably a one time thing and a lot of luck. This team has been carrying me for a while, but I feel like my 2 tanks being only Elite is now a big problem but I dont know how to improve the team. The 25% atk and HP buff is just too insane I dont know if I can afford to let it go
@empty stream and replace nemora? and shem/saveas/rden from up to down?
Yeah @spice flax yeah give that a shot, see if it tips it in your favor
@restive yoke you're missing some strong front-liners for that one, that's 11-28 right?
Yeah, holy crap, you have good memory XD
I was stuck on that one for a while, it was burned to memory, lol hmm let me see what we can work with
Try 1-Arden, 2-Nem, 3-Saveas, 4-Kel, 5-Lyca
Level-wise your team should be strong enough to beat that floor
Just got to work with that front-line a bit @restive yoke since that's what's looking like what's stopping you from clearing it
Hmm message it to me, looks like it got removed @spice flax
@empty stream Nemora and Lyca are both mercenaries
Unless you want me to use my Elite Lyca?
Use your Elite, she's strong enough
Okay
Ive made tasis def lower so silvana can target and still get destroyed seems vedan is the problem. Any ideas
@empty stream
Ahhh...Golus just tanks Saveas forever :(
Oh, never mind, I just switched Kelthur & Saveas...Who should I use instead of Nemora since she's a mercenary?
lemme check @restive yoke one sec
Vedan kills everyone almost instantly
@restive yoke Maybe Mehira? I'd still use Nem even though she's a merc but Mehira might be able to spot her instead
@regal swallow level up saveas above everyone and put him in front of vedan. Should kill him before ulti pops
Ive made tasis def lower so silvana can target and still get destroyed seems vedan is the problem. Any ideas
I can't use Nemora more than once a week, and I used her to pass the stage
@restive yoke try moving saveas to front line and putting fawkes I
Gonna need to level him though or put him on the crystal
I already passed it @sharp hornet, but thank you for the advice! I'll use it on the next wall I hit
Oh you passed it! lol @restive yoke
@restive yoke if you have rowan I love him. He feeds saveas enough pots to stay alive.
My Rowan is only Elite, though...
@restive yoke so is mine even if he dies it still uses the pots
Ohhh! I see
That's the main lineup I have used so far. Though I have been subbing in tasi and lyca now that I have them.
Who would you replace?
@restive yoke if you can use lucius I'd put him up front with saveas or Brutus. Then replace mehira probably.
Have to try random combos honestly. I had been stuck on 13-8 for a few days and swapped in some elite heroes like lyca and beat it in a few tries. Just depends on rng
Huh...Are higher tier heroes really not as good as some elites?
yeah some champs are better than others no matter the ascension early on
@restive yoke seems so I switch equipment around to give them the best chance.
Also, this is my hero line up @sharp hornet
Would you really replace Mehira? Her +30% defense is insane
@restive yoke personally my lucius is only L and if I can get the rng to keep him alive enough to pop his ult usually he keeps squad alive long enough to give saveas a chance to do pure damage
Higher-tier champs are better for late game usually, Legendary+ ones seem to fair better in early game from what I've seen (with the exception of Arden, he rocks even though he maxes out at 160)
@empty stream I hate he maxes out but yes once over 141 he is awesome to slow down a battle
Gosh, I guess I'll try out Lucius instead of Mehira. I just don't know. Mehira has such an insane kit
@restive yoke I'd try taking arden down to 141 and raising everyone else as high as possible as well. I have mehira as well and just not worth it right now.
Who would I raise? Saveas is already maxed...Is Kelthur really worth dumping more resources into? I'm also currently not using Shemira or Belinda
@restive yoke I would just even them out more whoever is on the crystal. Made a world of difference keeping my back lines alive longer having them even rather than 1 super higher than the rest
Anyone know the maximum amount of lav tokens you can get in a run is?
An idea would be to balance out your teams' levels instead of focusing on one hero, get them all up to 160 before anything else
Hey, what's a good general lineup for what i got right now? I'm stuck on 6-20, I feel like all I need is levels right now but I wanna make sure I'm going the right way with my team
I guess I would go Brutus Khasos Golus Shemira Rosaline, making sure Rosaline stick to Shemira. But I'm not the most experienced player here I'm only around stage 12
Kings tower 229
Assistance please ๐
Whatโs the best line up I can use for wrizz?
Help wanted. Can't stop these enemies, they have too much cc. Could borrow a tank but then no merc for higher levels...?
Ogi literally squished everyone thanks to enemy cc
Any tips?
Who to use for Wrizz? I can get either tasi or nemora to mythic and can unlock their sig item
Any way my line up can beat this stage? 16-39
Help me pls
King tower 229 please help
What should I use
Who to use for Wrizz? I can get either tasi or nemora to mythic and can unlock their sig item
Should I make a Hendrik L+ or wait/hope for Belinda? Or Just make Belinda L already?
The top 5 heroโs are the ones Iโm currently using, any suggestions
Sry german relicts
@worthy grove watch your language please.
Any help? Im currently using Belinda, hogan, shemira, nemora, and athalia. I want something that can shred guild bosses or get through PvE easily.
Any help? Stuck on 10-40
Lucius, Saveas -- Belinda, Nemora, Lyca/Arden
Looking to buy a unit in the labyrinth shop. Was thinking Nemora or Shemira. Which would you guys suggest?
Shemira for sure
Shemira 100%
Okay ty guys
Shemira is only really good 161 onward, Is go for Nemora first @burnt raft
help im dying
@muted cairn long stuck 20-36 need advice plz ty
@strange glen switch KAZ and Hendrick positions and switch Arden and ulmus positions and switch Athalia for Tasi
@ember bane I don't think you stand a chance tbh, you can try switching Arden for Tasi but that won't help a lot, and switch Shemira and Brutus* positions, and then put Tasi behind Brutus up top
@ember bane can be cleared with less, nemora needs to charm ulmus and get shemira a shield. gonna be very rng on arden root from back middle position
@cyan pendant i wanna use tasi+ Shemira So let me know line up ty
don't think there's any room for her
@ember bane why u can't win? No enough dmg, they destroy u before u can ult once?
I understand a near full Wilder team is not ideal.
Also, I have 1 spot in my Resonating Crystal.
Couple upgrades now, still stuck.
@versed kite switch Tasi and Lyca positions and switch Lyca for Belinda. Lightbearers > Maulers
@muted cairn will give that a shot!
@eager jay switch Arden and Tasi positions, switch Arden for Brutus and switch Nemora and Shemira positions
@muted cairn That's my usual lineup. It's not cutting it unfortunately
I have no clue what to do with this , most of my characters are level 136
@eager jay might just need some more levels then if that's not helping, try doing it at least 20 times cus RNG, @slow kiln where are images?
Who to use for wrizz? I can get tasi/nemora to mythic and get either of their sig items
@azure needle normal Wrizz or Labyrinth Wrizz?
Team gets wiped in seconds help please : update lineup now at 1000k+ damage still gets wiped though
@muted cairn normal wrizz
@azure needle Shemira, Brutus, Belinda, Raine, Estrilda
So close to Artifact afk drops... Can anyone help me get over the hump? 13-36 and 13-40?
Here are my team options:
@frigid dagger Brutus n shemira dies quickly and even tasi uses her main skill but wilder don't fall asleep
@cyan pendant tried both Arden n tasi but Brutus n shemira don't survive too long
Could probably get my Nemora or Arden (maybe both) up 1-2 more tiers each. And maybe one of the other graveborn.
yup boosting arden did the trick! yay
@ember bane what if u use arden on nemora position and he root arden lyca and kaz? U need a lot of luck for that but maybe can work that way
Hello ! I am a beginner and i would like to know how build a line up with what i own
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@dreamy flicker try
Lyca
Kaz/brutus
Nemora/arden
Brutus/kaz
Arden/nemora
Don't L your heroes anymore.
Try to build Arden L+
If your rowan can survive try replace him with baden or estrilda
Any line-up help for 10-36? (Ignore what I have in already, its flexible)
@ @fierce kayak thanks, I'll try that ๐
Any recommendations? Last stage of the Voyage event.
looks like you pretty much have it beaten already?
Any suggestion? Floor 275
@frigid dagger if the tasi's are a big problem, could try to put arden in middle so he has a chance to root both tasi's (which he is unable to unless he is in middle). I'm assuming the Ira is also firing at your shemira so probably swap places with shemira and brutus so shemira doesn't get the healing reduction debuff
@wide wasp it was better than the last comp but my shem does no dmg, ty anyways i will try more times
Suggestions?
@edgy surge I can't see a timeline where that lucius would be useful in any capacity. Start by replacing him with almost anything else
@chilly turret All I can really say is don't invest too much into Ulmus for the time being, he is good in PvP but fairly weak in Campaign. If you manage to get more copies of him to make him L+, you can use him as tradebait for #mercenary though, to get the heroes you want for your library. He is pretty wanted and people will offer a lot in return.
@wide wasp mehira lucius is the basic combo that im trying to pull since lucius just heals back the damage that mehira does to allies
Need help on 13-40
And he isn't getting deleted in 0.05 seconds as soon as he reaches the frontline? You must be practicing witchcraft @edgy surge
yeah, like any melee tank/dps units, ascended is a must for lucius when you reach chap 21+ or he"ll get deleted in 3 seconds
@lament sonnet
Saveas
Henrik
Bellinda
Lyca
Arden
try something like this
Will try thanks!
@lament sonnet Also, if Fawkes caskets the Khasos before his first set of axes land on the backline, then you could try swapping out bellinda for fawkes, and switching the positions of arden and saveas
u were right, i did it with rowan thane @wide wasp @weak nova
good job
im gonna join the light @strange moat i went for M+ thane L+ lucius today and i'm not going back 
you sure about that ? you are at 20 but i don't see any ascended LB, its gonna get rough
meta shem - brut - wilders would be a safer bet
i think i'll decide after chap 20 where to go with faction scrolls cause with this mehira idk where to head
Yeah, you need at least Lucius, Thane and Belinda ascended
or mono LB won't be working
Anyone got the ss for 19-38? Maybe @fierce kayak ?
Lucius, Thane + Shem may work though
ye i dont wanna go full LB but lucius thane shem was the plan, can throw in estrilda slowly
@mental forum try putting +4/5 mythic boots and dura's call on your arden and see if u can get him to root faster than the enemy arden. needs some RNG retries
Any suggestions for 20-16?
@twin hound this worked for me, I had to figure out how to buy the most time from silvina
Hmm your Shem is over 200. Iโm a ways off from that ๐
any lineup suggestions? main 5 are maxed lvl atm
Been stuck for a week, any ideas
@silver citrus Lucius hogan saveas belinda arden should be good, and read this
Help? Keep losing when Brutus ults
Any lineup recommendations for 16-28? Any help would be appreciated :).
What should I upgrade to legendary?
Id wait for one more fodder and choose Arden
so much fodder
On 11-22
@toxic ravine itโs difficult to say what would be effective without seeing what youโre up against
Regarding shemira, should I start focusing on her once I can get my first 161?
@loud scroll would that be a good team for pve?
@loud scroll you mean me, with saveas, right?
@frigid dagger with this team setup I was very close even tasi use sleep twice but Ulmus Arden didnt sleep n wipe all at end
@loud scroll Have you tried athalia? @silent wraith posted a line up a few weeks ago where he cleared it with a 180 crystal
Nem
Athalia
Shem
Brutus
Tasi
Iโm using the following team to get through the campaign and Iโm now at 18-24. Are there changes I should make?
Any idea on how to beat this?
I have her though sheโs only E+ @plucky flint
@loud scroll I think his was only E. Sheโs there for cc.
So, any wilders worth putting up to Legendary mode? Or wait for Tasi?
Anyone have advice for 20-54?
@zinc wren what team setup you used for 20-36
I donโt even remember, just kept trying things until something worked
Any help for this
Thank you, Iโll give that a go
@zinc wren I won that with ur exact lineup but nem 180 and lyca 200
@lone shale nemora is definitely worth
@loud scroll ty. Although I honestly never thought Wilders were serious since... Seirus. I thought Seirus would be a carry but my god he sucked for me.
@loud scroll congrats!
@swift bluff Brutus is definitely gonna be more help than either on your frontline, tasi and nem are the keys to success with that
@loud scroll Is it worth me pushing Shem higher right now or should I focus on getting better/end-game heroes ascended?
@swift bluff I would reset everyone other than Shem back to 160/161 and get Shem to 200
Shem every time @feral coral, she carries so hard itโs kinda broken
Good to know ๐ Sheโs done a great job of carrying me thus far
Should I concentrate on upgrading tasi, lyca, or nem first?
Making her 220 instead of working on 200 for everyone else carried me from ch17 to 20
Nem scales better
Nem since sheโd be l+
in general you want nemora a bit stronger than tasi so silvinia won't target her
Thank you; I just got her to 220
@feral coral Shem is a monster all the way to 240. Itโs only after that the meta team stops being so dominant and other comps start to shine, but those really depend on the luck of your draws
Good to know, thanks!
Good to know!
oh divine council may I have your assistance with 18-32
Need some help on 19-6
@lone shale none of them are a carry really but the supports can be life savers
Idk why but this is pretty hard.. any tip?
ppl use Eironn/kaz as carry but that's a long way at 240+
@loud scroll this is true. Granted I hear Shemira is a true carry, I don't see it yet and I just got her to 162. With her sig weapon unlocked.
Itโs voyage or wonders so I need nobody to die
Estrilda/khasos is also supposed to be great. And ferael is a better gb carry past 240. But it takes a long long time to get a 240+ team...
@ember oak use lyca so you can get CCs out faster
Instead of who?
@ember oak switch arden with tasi and hope he root bot of their arden, if he can't root change tasi for lyca
Tasi has super ready
Someone able to help? They just kill me everytime
This last voyage is eating my ass ๐ฆ
@honest storm what I usually do is use other heroes to lower their hp then use your main line up to finish them off
Help with team pls
No matter what heroes I use someone always dies, thatโs voyage I need my heroes alive
@maiden elk
Dps: shemira/saveas/belinda (try to aim for 160 saveas for now. Belinda is a burst dps so use her with rosaline)
Tank: lucius, grezhul
Support: lyca, rosaline
@ember oak I'd try using nara and silvina against ardens so they cant root as fast
Okay ty
Any advice?
@ember oak you dont even need to beat that, it will go away...... it doesnt drop relic either...
Help, if its winnable
Some ideas on this one? I hate this angel
@tawny jewel lyca tank instead of shemira
@placid delta all others the same?
How do I defeat Fawkes
K thanks
Voyage boss fight, anything that lets me win it, please
@ember oak try brutus saveas front line, arden lyca tasi
My arden lyca tasi are dead ๐
@ember oak you need to build up some energy before approaching this stage
So tasi can ult immediately at the start of the battle
I can reset I guess
@placid delta still getting rolled
@placid delta tasi and saveas now have their supers ready but the middle wilder guy gets them before they activate it
@ember oak if you auto tasi should ult before eironn pulls them