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maiden quest
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@oak lance hmm, how does: (Arden, Nemora, Lyca) backline (Brutus, Saveas) frontline work? who does Silvina jump?

lusty meadow
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Also @oak lance You only need one more Mauler E+ fodder and you can make your Sav straight to L+

marsh oxide
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Is saveas really that good?

oak lance
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@lusty meadow yeah im trying to do that rn
@maiden quest silvina jumps arden

lusty meadow
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Aye @marsh oxide I believe other people think he is pretty good :)

maiden quest
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if she jumps Arden, you can try that setup and RNG charming the enemy Saveas

marsh oxide
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That sucks cus I don't get him often my mauker fodder is golus cus I get 2 of him every draw I swear

maiden quest
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Saveas is a bit low to carry that, though; you might need to try using Lucius/Belinda with the 3 wilders instead

lusty meadow
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@maiden quest Cleared it finally

maiden quest
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what ended up working for you?

lusty meadow
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Went with this, Tasi managed to get her ult off with some decent Arden roots and then Shem just obliterated them

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Had to get the lucky with roots/phases and Tasi teleporting to Arden

maiden quest
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sounds like you still had Call on Tasi then, shows what I know lol

lusty meadow
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Nope, Shem had call :P @maiden quest

maiden quest
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oh okay, feel better then ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zinc wren
clear saddle
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wheres @fierce kayak

shit, how do i show off to him then

mild wing
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@clear saddle ded

tall seal
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Best relic for a mythic belinda?

lusty meadow
devout idol
lusty meadow
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Still no luck getting past it @devout idol ?

devout idol
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Nope

lusty meadow
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Ah damn, I'm on the last stage in chapter 13, it's an absolute nightmare this chapter

devout idol
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I want to finish 13-4 so I can unlock a new area in peaks of time

maiden quest
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if you're going to use Belinda, you want a way to recharge her ult, like Raine and/or Rosaline

devout idol
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I just moved her to the frontline xD

weak nova
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rowan is a better option

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he's the best energy fuel imo, not just for belinda but lucius also

maiden quest
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I always forget he exists because I don't have one lol

lusty meadow
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Finally cleared chapter 13, glad to be out of them damn mines ๐Ÿ˜‚

maiden quest
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dem fox mines

marsh rose
fathom narwhal
fierce kayak
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@clear saddle gratz on 21

clear saddle
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ayy @fierce kayak tks buddy, i got ss for most stages though so @ me if you need ๐Ÿ˜‰

fierce kayak
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@clear saddle ๐Ÿ‘Œ

ember bane
clear saddle
lusty meadow
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Damn, that rare+ Arden @clear saddle

clear saddle
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gets the job done lol

lusty meadow
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Whatever works I guess :P ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฟ

fierce kayak
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@clear saddle so you retires Arden at chap 20?

clear saddle
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yep, i did personally. it wouldnt hurt to still have L+ arden tho

fierce kayak
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

ember bane
clear saddle
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Yes, Although, if you can get brutus to 181 or higher, sometimes he can solo kill ulmus

ember bane
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I feel that I must use tasi for shemira

clear saddle
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If you get your brutus to somewhere like that, he can take on ulmus by himself sometimes

ember bane
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@clear saddle Now I get these Mauler only
So wait for Saveas L+

granite blaze
copper estuary
median crow
copper estuary
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@clear saddle

clear saddle
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yes

sudden sparrow
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๐Ÿคก

last granite
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@median crow try this

Saveas
Hogan
Silvina
Belinda
Arden

Supposedly it's easier to kill niru first since he's only leg but if your teammate dies fast and he's healing himself swap saveas and arden position.

median crow
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Thanks, will give it a shot

keen sphinx
last granite
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@copper estuary might work

frontline: golus/hogan (position whichever works better)
Backline: saveas (3), mehira (2), shemira (1)

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@keen sphinx who did silvina attack?

keen sphinx
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It depends on who I put the better robe on, I can choose twins or mehira

last granite
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@keen sphinx if you can get mehira to ult that would be great but if she still dies with/without the robe change her to fawkes. Should buy you a couple seconds for the other to ult

You also need dps so I suggest swapping the twins with belinda/shemira. Position them in the back middle so if silvina attacks them saveas can attack silvina

lusty meadow
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@last granite Any idea? I get close, might just be a case of trying it another 20 or so times see how RNG treats me

plucky flint
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Holy hell. Figured Iโ€™d put this here for anyone searching how to beat 20-21, since I had a lot of trouble beating this while underleveled. Brutus Shem Arden tasi lyca 1-5, 171 crystal, and a billion retries

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@lusty meadow I would flip lyca and shem

last granite
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@lusty meadow what patsy says. If you're close then chance are you just need to retry the stage many times. And I agree swap lyca and shem position.

lusty meadow
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Alright, will try that, thanks guys :)

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Perfect, thanks @plucky flint & @last granite cleared it :)

last granite
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@plucky flint you have mad patience for retrying billion times. I almost went mad retrying for 18-16 :')

keen sphinx
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Damn I tried with fawkes and Belinda didnโ€™t get a single enemy rip. I think Iโ€™ll just afk a bit, im seriously underleveled.

plucky flint
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@last granite I actually probably pushed harder on retries on other levels, but this was the longest Iโ€™ve ever been stuck at a wall.

last granite
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@keen sphinx have you tried the holy trinity wilders? Backline tasi/arden/nemora/lyca + tank & dps frontline?

keen sphinx
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I have neither tasi nemora or Lyca lol

last granite
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@keen sphinx feels bad man ulricry

keen sphinx
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Iโ€™m gonna get tasi from the next voyage though

last granite
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@keen sphinx good luck! She's a big help if you can keep her until she ults

keen sphinx
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Could also get nemora from lab

last granite
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@keen sphinx you should get her from lab if you dont have her yet.

She will be easier to get to ascended since you'd never need luck to get her copies (just lotsof times and maybe money)

keen sphinx
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This is my account about 10 days old and with advancement rewards, how would you rate the luck Iโ€™ve had with pulls so far?

last granite
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@keen sphinx 9/10

Those are some grade S/A heroes

lusty meadow
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Hell, you got the twins twice and Mehira @keen sphinx

plucky flint
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@keen sphinx well outside of missing the wilders thatโ€™s an extremely good start

lusty meadow
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Feckin Ira is so annoying man

plucky flint
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@keen sphinx word to the wise though, slow your roll ascending heroes to L. You want to at least be able to get them to L+ usually, and even then itโ€™s not always advisable since you also need to build L+ fodder to get heroes to M and M+. Itโ€™s important to game plan 5 heroes that youโ€™re going to eventually take to M and beyond so you never get crystal capped.

sharp egret
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Crystal capped?

last granite
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@sharp egret meaning that on the resonating crystal when, for example, you have 4 leg+ hero and 1 leg hero, the other heroes that are on the crystal will be stuck at 140 because of that leg hero max level. When you have 5 leg+ heroes on the pentagram, the rest of your team will be able to maxed out at 160

wise merlin
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@ember oak Hey there! ^^

Are there any acsensions available for you?

The team you're putting up against this kind of enemies seem to overpower you by quite a lot.

Are you able to ascend Saveas to Legendary, and get him above level 120?

ember oak
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Just completed it, nvm :P
I can make hogan L by using an E+ hogan but I prefer saving him to make hogan L+

plucky flint
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@sharp egret more importantly, your highest leveled hero can only be leveled 40 levels higher than your crystal. So no heroes can go above 180 with a 140 crystal, 200 with a 160, etc. This can be a really major problem if you donโ€™t properly plan to eventually have 5 M then M+ then A heroes

wise merlin
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@ember oak Congrats on passing it! ๐Ÿ˜

You should only ascend to L if you're going to use them, if not, then there's no use and you should hold onto your fodder.

That is, unless you need L+ fodder (which you don't, yet.)

ember oak
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@wise merlin I need a second elite+ fodder for my saveas and heโ€™s L

stoic haven
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stage 10-32

wise merlin
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@stoic haven Hey there vedan360

Give this a shot :

Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Ira

Make sure you swap the best gears and artifacts! (If you have any)

lusty meadow
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@ember oak Only ascend him if you can take him straight to L+

wise merlin
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@ember oak Best of luck further on dear friend drunksi

ember oak
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Ty

wise merlin
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@lusty meadow Saveas can also do work at L tier..

stoic haven
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I've got duras grace on SaveAs @wise merlin

wise merlin
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Better than E+, at that

tawdry gulch
lusty meadow
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Ah okay, didn't know that, I'm sorry! @wise merlin

wise merlin
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@stoic haven Give Grace to Hogan

granite blaze
stoic haven
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@wise merlin thanks :)

wise merlin
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@lusty meadow Oh you're fine ^^ every Ascension tier matters at early stages.

Unlike middle-to-late game chapters where you can use support heroes at E+ / L tier and still win if you have a strong carry, at a high tier (Mythic+ / Ascended)

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@stoic haven You're more than welcome friend shemira

last granite
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@tawdry gulch try this

Nemora
Lucius
Athalia
Hogan
Ira

If this doesn't work try swapping athalia and nemora position

wise merlin
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@tawdry gulch Hey! Try this out! :

Nemora
Lucius
Saveas / Shemira
Lyca
Hogan

If you'd prefer a formation that includes faction bonus, :

Nemora
Lyca
Belinda
Lucius
Hogan

sand kindle
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@granite blaze if u use tasi instead Arden whom does she banish?

plucky flint
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The exceptions to the โ€œonly ascend if you can go straight to L+โ€ rule are any legendary tier heroes (since youโ€™re guaranteed to get more copies of them in relatively quick order) and heroes that youโ€™re committing to build that you can farm from the lab or challenger store (shem or nemora for example)

granite blaze
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Wait tasi banishes?

lusty meadow
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Aye, she has a phase

sand kindle
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@granite blaze her passive skill like astral

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@granite blaze check pm Iโ€™ll send u few ss

granite blaze
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Is the tasi banish the green thing

sharp egret
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Oh I see thanks for answering my question earlier

tawdry gulch
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@wise merlin @last granite thanks alot both
I tried shiya line up and it worked ๐Ÿ˜
Thanks again for helping๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

wise merlin
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Nice! Good luck further on! ^^

last granite
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@tawdry gulch no problem! glad it helped ^^

tawdry gulch
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Good luck you too @wise merlin

โคโค @last granite

crude shuttle
stoic haven
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@wise merlin I'm not making a dent in Niru

wise merlin
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Then swap Hogan's position with Saveas.

I'm sure he'll be able to pull it off faster on him.

stoic haven
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and Silvina is taking out Belinda pretty fast

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@wise merlin that worked :)

civic canopy
wise merlin
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@stoic haven Nice ^^ glad it worked out for you, best of luck further on! belindakiss

crude shuttle
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@wise merlin any help for me aswell pls? ^^

sand kindle
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@civic canopy swap lyca and shem

wise merlin
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@civic canopy This looks like it should take the win, since if Arden will root both enemy Arden and Ogi.. you should be fine

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@crude shuttle Of course! Let me take a look ๐Ÿ˜Š I'll come back with a response in a bit!

eager jay
last granite
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@crude shuttle this might help

Nara/fawkes/nemora
Grezhul
Tasi/fawkes/nemora
Brutus
Saveas

If you choose tasi/nemora, put them in the middle so silvina will attack them and by then saveas should be able to kill her

civic canopy
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@wise merlin his Arden roots Me every time. Ogi smash at the beginning interripts me

crude shuttle
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@last granite the Problem is silv killing my weak backline and my front line doesnt kill their frontline fast enough so they kinda get sandwiched๐Ÿ˜‚

wise merlin
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@crude shuttle Nemora instead of Rosaline, charm enemy Saveas***

If targeted by Silvina, swap equipment between Belinda and Rosaline.

If Rosaline has better gear, make sure to swap that too with Nemora / Belinda.

Make sure Nemora has higher defense rating

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Saveas, my bad. Not Arden. ^

crude shuttle
wise merlin
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@civic canopy Then try this out :

Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Arden

plucky flint
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@civic canopy swapping lyca and Shem is what I would try first. Then playing with positioning of other two backline spots

pale kettle
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Hey all,
Iโ€™m having trouble with 11-28.
My strat is usually to slow enemies until Tasi and Shemira can ult.
But so far Tasi gets 2 shot, Shemira ults but dies shortly after.

eager jay
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@last granite no luck with that combo

plucky flint
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@eager jay I would try four wilders, lyca across from kaz

last granite
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@eager jay are you able to do some damage tho? cause my secret to beating that stage is 50x retries no joke tasi
also, that lineup magic trick is to make mehira ult. If she's not close to ult then I'll think of another lineup.

eager jay
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Yeah, just totally hit or miss. I can get them low but they just can't get the job done

ripe beacon
last granite
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@ripe beacon wouldn't it be better to swap shemira and brutus position? because even if your shemira is strong she wont be able to kill brutus when he's immune to damage. if you swap her with brutus she could kill ulmus (hopefully) and with nemora behind hopefully she can charm either ulmus or saveas.

also try swapping arden with tasi and put dura's call on her so she can ult asap

ember oak
ripe beacon
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@last granite tried 30 times your lineup, shemira top eats 2 spears of saveas then is rooted by ulmus then saveas(charmed) kill ulmus and shemira ults whith 0hp and dies by saveas/khasos

Tasi or arden is Almost the same result, and 99% of the times tasi ults too late (even whith call)

last granite
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@ripe beacon is arden able to 3 roots the enemy? can you show your full roster?

ember bane
ripe beacon
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@last granite yes he can root multiple times this fight, full roster is meh but i can show you

woeful fjord
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pls help - iโ€˜m stuck for ages

last granite
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@ripe beacon okay some stuff you can try:

  1. swap lyca with shemira. So frontline would be brutus and lyca (experiment with position)
  2. (shemira against ulmus) Put nemora in back middle and use athalia/eiron/nara (whoever can do a direct attack) against saveas so he doesnt kill shemira as quickly. Put dura's call on nemora so she can heal.

other than this I'm out of idea. Maybe other seasoned player could help you

ripe beacon
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Welp i try tomorrow because maintenance is up haha

Athalia vs saveas prob could work

last granite
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@ember bane Ahh wilders again. How we hate this wilders wall. Anyway..

swap shemira and brutus position since ira and brutus has immunity it should be a little bit even. If you have athalia put her against arden so he can't root. If you need arden's roots for cc then you can lose lyca for arden. Swap nemora with tasi or lucius (not sure with lucius but doesnt hurt to try)

if you can show your full roster I might be able to think of other lineup

ember bane
astral marsh
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@woeful fjord Put Eironn on middle. I think he can pull slviina ๐Ÿ™‚ (and shemira front of niru)

woeful fjord
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@astral marsh Maintnance ๐Ÿ˜… laters but thx

last granite
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@ember bane if you need tasi+shemira combo then try this

tasi
ezizh
nemora/lyca
shemira
athalia/nemora

Ezizh is only E but if you put mythic gears on him he should be able to tank for a couple secs, hopefully by then he can prevent enemy from ult. Hope it can help somehow, I'm not that good with endgame lineup ^^;

mental viper
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Which is better on a team; a mix of lightbearer,wilder,graveborn,mauler? Or should I just use one type for my team?

ember oak
weak nova
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@mental viper mono teams work but very expensive and hard to make, its much more easier with mixed team

mental viper
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@weak nova I see and thanks for the tip

last granite
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@ember oak are you close to winning with that lineup?

mental viper
lusty meadow
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@mental viper Might wanna retire your commons :)

ember oak
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@fierce pumice with some luck I can lose when 2 enemies are alive

last granite
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@ember oak this is quite a hit or miss but you can try

arden
saveas
nemora
tasi
lyca

reasons why is because 4-faction bonus + tasi could run away after 1 hit and still survives. other than that you can try

front: lucius, estrilda/hogan
backline: saveas + 2 wilders

ember oak
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Ok ty

mental viper
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@lusty meadow alright ๐Ÿ˜ƒ and how about if I battle? What are the positions I should place them in? This is my current formation

last granite
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@mental viper is isabella doing a lot of damage? because if not I'd rather use silvina

mental viper
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@last granite not much unless she is against mauler heroes

last granite
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@mental viper okay, you can try swapping isabella with silvina or lyca then. You can try tasi/arden as well but I'm not sure his root is much of a help on early level

mental viper
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@last granite okiiiiii, ty

small acorn
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@mental viper i would suggest that you work towards a saveas carry. He works really well with brutus

tawdry gulch
small acorn
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@tawdry gulch just work positioning around till you win

grave hollow
last granite
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@tawdry gulch if you dont use niru/morvus go reset them and give the levels to your other heroes

small acorn
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@tawdry gulch also get saveas for your carry.
TIP - if you only have 2-3 enemy heros alive when you wipe, keep retrying you will win from rng

tawdry gulch
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Thanks guys I'll try your suggestions and tell you what will happen with me @small acorn @last granite

barren gate
mental viper
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@tawdry gulch try to use graveborn or lightbearer heroes

small acorn
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@barren gate work on mauler fodder, saveas will still be better for you for a while

last granite
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@grave hollow you should reset some of your heroes and get saveas to 120. Only level 5 of your top 5 heroes. Max 7 heroes since on early game you dont have enough room on resonating crystal

small acorn
mental viper
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@grave hollow try two mauler heroes in the frontline then a graveborn at the left hand side. For the backline heroes use lightbearers

grave hollow
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@last granite i only have 5 lvled lol

mental viper
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@small acorn okiiii, ty

last granite
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@grave hollow really? Cause on your roster the blue numbered heroes are only 4??? And they're capped at 61?

grave hollow
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It's lab so I borrowed a few heros

last granite
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@grave hollow oh duh I am stupid and blind sorry tasi .

Mmokey try this maybe

Athalia
Lucius
Mehira
Gorvo
Saveas

You can try putting athalia against lyca/nemora since tasi can flee from attack

grave hollow
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Tnx and it's all good I'm a pro and I too make mistakes lmfao @last granite tnx again

tawdry gulch
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@last granite @small acorn @mental viper
I tried your tips but it did not work thats my new heroes

fair sundial
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What heroes generally have the best sig items to level up?

last granite
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@tawdry gulch I recommend this lineup

nemora
belinda
estrilda/saveas
hogan
ira

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@fair sundial not too sure but generally people like grezhul and kaz sig, also go to #classic-questions . Lotso seasoned player there that can answer your question

lusty meadow
glass moat
fierce kayak
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@lusty meadow power a bit low. But try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

lusty meadow
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@fierce kayak Yeah my backline is a bit scuffed, same with Brutus

fierce kayak
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@glass moat Your power Defintely is low for this level. Kill Vedan first. Try
Athalia
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Sav

lusty meadow
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You know what steps I should take going forward here on out @fierce kayak ?

fierce kayak
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Mid game ascension planning:

Don't rush for ascension from L+ to M onwards, same principle as don't go to L unless can go L+ right away.

You will wish to aim for top 5 Ascended white eventually, so meanwhile is to make top 5 M first. One hero per faction, last slot any faction.

Ask your self before ascend heroes above L+. Is this hero a carry like Shemira or essential hero like brutus? If it's not, you better think wise. It's better to ascend hero above L+ if you already have 4 copies of them ready for Ascended white.

Exceptions may be to break level cap to push Shemira above 200, so crystal need to be 180. I will ascend heroes I have copies ready go Ascended white or worst case shops heroes as I can continue buy copies of them.
@lusty meadow

tawdry gulch
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@last granite sadly it did not work

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Thaks for helping anyway โคโค

fierce kayak
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@tawdry gulch try not to even level. You can read pinned messages here top right and #classic-questions

Overlevel Belinda or other carry 20 to 40 levels ahead

glass moat
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Yeah my power is too low ig, im at 8-20 and trying to reach 9-2 because thats when the guild store gear gets better jn the tavern. Thats the right thing to do right

tawdry gulch
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@fierce kayak ok i'll try that thanks๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ’•

fierce kayak
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@glass moat it's fine. Sometimes we climb too fast and forgot it's a afk game afterall ^_^

glass moat
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Yea my belinda basically carried me through all of it

mild wing
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@robust magnet What ch/stage?

chrome swan
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Hello

sand kindle
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@robust magnet lvl up shem to 240)

robust magnet
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21-37

chrome swan
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I need a help

mild wing
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I beat it with the exact same formatuon but my shem was 240 @robust magnet so either keep trying or wait and level

chrome swan
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I m stuck on 12-12

undone ether
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@robust magnet try to use athalia at tasi to prevent her vanishing shem

mild wing
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@chrome swan As I said, SS the enemy formation and your heroes or we cant help you from just saying 12-12

mental viper
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@chrome swan ohhhhhhh I see, what is problem in there?

undone ether
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You need some cc

chrome swan
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Cc means?

tidal locust
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Crowd control

chrome swan
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How can i do that?

ionic quest
undone ether
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Shemira can silence, nemora can charm. Try heroes like that

tidal locust
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Look for heroes who can stun,knock up etc

chrome swan
mild wing
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@chrome swan Arden is a very good cc, Id use your nemora, the charm is a good cc

crude shuttle
chrome swan
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Yup nemora is good. But i have no hero for acsend ๐Ÿ˜”

undone ether
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@chrome swan reset your nara & eironn

chrome swan
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Then?

undone ether
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Put the resources to your carry

chrome swan
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Ok brb. I m going to do it

inner sparrow
mental viper
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Need help in 9-20 huhu

last granite
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@inner sparrow try this 4 wilders first

lyca
tasi
nemora
lucius
arden

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@inner sparrow if that doesn't work then try this

saveas
lucius
arden/tasi/nemora
golus
shemira/belinda/safiya

safiya is like belinda (a burst dps) but from mauler so you can get faction bonus

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@mental viper have you tried the meta team? 3 wilder cc + brutus + saveas?

inner sparrow
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@last granite Gould does too fast to be a useful tank

compact ferry
mental viper
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@last granite I havenโ€™t yet and imma try that though my wilders are low leveled huhu

last granite
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@inner sparrow then try swapping him with athalia

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@mental viper if you got good gears even when they're low leveled you can prolong their life a little bit

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@compact ferry send screenshot of your stage please

compact ferry
mental viper
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@last granite okiiiii, lemme see first or check

compact ferry
last granite
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@compact ferry mm alright try this for campaign

saveas
lucius
arden/fawkes
hogan
athalia/shemira

whole granite
ionic quest
last granite
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@whole granite might work if you can keep mehira alive until she ults, but if not then try fawkes

saveas
brutus
lyca/mehira/fawkes
estrilda
belinda

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@ionic quest try the meta team first then if it doesn't work try this

athalia
shemira
arden/nemora/tasi
brutus
saveas

also since now you have shemira try to level her 20 levels above the other

ionic quest
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@last granite thank you

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Will do

chrome swan
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Hey nara is locked but i reset iron@joms

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So what can i do now?

chrome swan
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Help me

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Anyone there who can help me

last granite
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@chrome swan is morvus doing well as a tank? you might need cc so I recommend swapping either belinda/khasos with nemora/ira. If lucius dies too fast you might wanna put athalia against saveas to lessen the damage received

spark agate
#

Hi can anyone help me to get pass this????

chrome swan
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But i dont have legendary athalia๐Ÿ˜” @last granite

last granite
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@chrome swan doesn't need to, you just need to disable saveas for a while and athalia can do that even if not legendary

chrome swan
ember oak
chrome swan
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@last granite so what can i do do i change movus

stoic haven
#

hit chapter 11 thanks to the earlier advice :)

chrome swan
#

Everyone is died soon shiya๐Ÿ˜”

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I did what u said

last granite
#

@chrome swan i he dies too fast but gives a lot of damage put him on backline and change him with a tank (golus/hendrik)

lament pawn
chrome swan
#

See i use atheliya

last granite
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@chrome swan

athalia/khasos/morvus
lucius
ira/nemora
golus/hendrik
silvina

choose ira to poison and slow down enemy. choose nemora if you prefer to charm them (rng until she charms brutus)

oblique stone
chrome swan
#

@last granite tell me 5 heroes that i should use

ember oak
last granite
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@chrome swan kinda hard to just tell 5 since this game need a lot of experimenting on comp. No lineup is the best lineup

chrome swan
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@last granite so how can i beat them?

ember oak
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Shiya with both lineups you gave me best run was ogi, the girl and nemora left but nemora completely healed them so I lost

chrome swan
#

@ember oak Any help for my stage?

ember oak
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My stage is lower than yours ๐Ÿ˜›

chrome swan
#

Oh lol ok

void otter
random verge
chrome swan
#

Someone help me i dont know how to beat 12-12

ember oak
chrome swan
#

Someone help me

oblique stone
#

@chrome swan so like this
Morvus
Lucius
Belinda
Shemira
Silvina

chrome swan
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@oblique stone my shemira is not legendary

oblique stone
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@chrome swan use the mercenaries one, and yeah you have a L shemira

chrome swan
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Oh yes

oblique stone
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@ember oak switch saveas for Belinda and try that

ember oak
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Please nobody got a lineup?

chrome swan
#

@oblique stone everyone is died soon

oblique stone
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@chrome swan ok, really all I can say is wait to do adventure later because you are pretty under-ascended, so just try to ascend your heroes

chrome swan
#

@oblique stone but i have no hero for acsend ๐Ÿ˜”

void otter
last granite
#

@spark agate

arden
brutus
tasi
shemira
saveas

if you dont want your hero to get cocooned by ankhira then

tasi/arden
brutus
saveas
shemira
athalia

tacit kayak
#

20-54 btw

oblique stone
chrome swan
#

Help me

ember oak
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@oblique stone using Belinda didnโ€™t work, she doesnโ€™t do anything dps to get rid of the enemies enforce they kill my team

oblique stone
#

@worthy grove try this
Tasi
Brutus
Belinda
Arden
Nemora

chrome swan
#

Feeling sad i really cant beat that stage๐Ÿ˜”

last granite
#

@chrome swan just afk for a while mate and gather some resource. It's not all that bad

fierce stratus
pale kettle
#

Please help with Kane in time peaks

worthy grove
pale kettle
#

How do I make his level WEAKER

Do i have to step on blue or green tiles ?

oblique stone
#

@pale kettle the less you step on the weaker he is

fierce stratus
#

@pale kettle Step on only the blue or green titles needed steping on them increases his power

pale kettle
#

His level cant be below 230 ?

oblique stone
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@worthy grove first of all, reset tasi and put brutus on the resonating crystal for higher level caps

Also, try this:

Nemora
Arden
Tasi
Brutus
Saveas

ember oak
old ore
ember oak
#

Youโ€™re really under leveled

old ore
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I am. But it's the last level. I have no idea what to do, those are my last heroes

last granite
#

@old ore if you dont want to use dura tears then try this

nemora
shemira
saveas
warek
rosaline

other than that you really need to use your dura tears. Next time you do labyrinth you can go to #classic-questions and ask which relics you should choose. Also before you use dura tears use your last comp on the enemy and only after that you use dura tears

old ore
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I beat it actually

ember oak
#

I think your total heroes are under leveled honestly. Iโ€™d use
Arden
Hogan
Saveas
Walek
Tasi / nemora

old ore
#

I don't know how to check a log, but i used a different lineup. No tears wasted

last granite
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@old ore it's all good. Congrats for beating it!

ember oak
old ore
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I put
Rosa
Saveas
Nemora
Warek
Shemira

last granite
#

@ember oak try:

arden/belinda
lucius
nemora
hogan
saveas

ember oak
#

2 DPS?

spark agate
#

@last granite thank you very much but my team is just too weak for that, 100k power lower. But anyway, Iโ€™ll try that line up later when the team gets better

last granite
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@ember oak yes 2 dps, I feel like if nemora can charm ira/ogi you dont need as much cc so with 2 dps it would do better, faster damage. Could be wrong tho :/

vernal berry
pale kettle
ember oak
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@last granite both are hard bets, am I under leveled and should keep trying?

last granite
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@ember oak most likely. I'm not so sure about underlevel myself since I've often think that I'm underleveled but by some ungodly miracle I got through the stage. But you could try to aim for leg+ saveas and overlevel him, that should help tremendously

ember oak
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Okay ty

median shell
last granite
#

@median shell try

lyca/arden
brutus
nemora
shemira
tasi

or you can use silvina/athalia against mirael to delay her casting fire shield

tawny jewel
twilit wind
#

Mmmmhmk

hoary quest
twilit wind
last granite
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@twilit wind if nemora can't charm anyone use rosaline, she should help lucius ult so your team last longer

saveas
brutus
nemora/rosaline
lucius
fawkes

vernal berry
leaden sparrow
last granite
#

@hoary quest maybe try this

twins/belinda
lucius
tasi
hogan
saveas

sleek acorn
twilit wind
#

Thnx @last granite it worked;))

last granite
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@twilit wind you're welcome! Glad it helped ^^

south herald
last granite
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@tacit kayak I would swap either lyca or tasi with athalia and put her against:

  1. ira/estrilda if they're doing a lot of damage to your team
  2. arden so he can root but you can
sleek portal
#

@tacit kayak youtube is your best friend when it comes to chapter 20.

gilded fractal
#

oh wait lol my gears all fcked up bc of guild hunt -__- ill keep trying with it fixed LOL help is appreciated regardless

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(just beat it! x))

hoary quest
#

@last granite Thanks, Ill give it a go

sand kindle
#

@lapis sand switch lyca and tasi, and remove gears from tasi, so silva will jump on her. Give shemira horn and roll till u win

pale kettle
#

Suggestions for 11-36 ?
Khasos and Saveas are wrecking their lanes.
And Arden isnโ€™t able to root opponents quickly.

mental viper
#

@pale kettle go for saveas and if ever keep seraphim

zinc wren
mental viper
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@zinc wren keep layla, replace tasi with lucius or grezhul. For your backline, keep mary and also brutus and shemira in the front lines

tame solar
sand kindle
#

@zinc wren

Arden
Shem (sword)
Nemora
Brut
Lyca

tame solar
ember oak
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@tame solar you'd want to reset your shemira and get your saveas up isntead, she becomes really good only at 161.
Also put khasos in the middle back and saveas instead of khasos. switch places between arden and tasi

tame solar
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Okay ill try that thanks

little echo
#

Any help with a team comp? Who should I focus on?

honest pawn
#

sav

mental viper
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@little echo focus on brutus, saveas, arden, silvana, grezhul

torpid turret
fierce kayak
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@torpid turret Hi buddy. You should read some guides, tier list and pinned message here and in #classic-questions, top right corner. Else you can't process far. You heroes prority is... quite a mess.

Try this for now.
Tasi
Brutus
Khoas
Skeg
Belinda

Skreg is quite a awful hero

torpid turret
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Ok thx, just with my luck I can't get enough dups to make them high tier, Brutus I got at chapter 7 it 8 but only 1, at chapter 9 or 10 got his dup, the graveborn have alot of solo heroes, and will try now
Skreg good for me because he get not alot damage from saveas

sharp hornet
#

@fierce kayak is nara good for endgame?

torpid turret
#

Btw u mean khasos?

fierce kayak
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@sharp hornet not sure about that but nara I heard is good. Especially for faction tower

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@torpid turret yes. Sorry for my spellings

torpid turret
#

That ok,

sharp hornet
#

@fierce kayak okay thanks was thinking about using her to make grezhul L

torpid turret
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Ok thx u, that work for me, btw I hear day or 2 ago about the wild trio, try do the trio?

fierce kayak
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@torpid turret you have good heroes. But need to get the basics right and heroes tier.

@sharp hornet try not to use Ascended Tier hero as fodder. Patience rewards you in the game.

torpid turret
#

Ok, so I should go and learn the thing from the pinned?

sharp hornet
#

@fierce kayak yeah I know lol. Just stuck on this damn level still been a few days. I spent 10 faction scrolls on gb today and got another shem, currently at 33k lab coins so hopefully 2 or 3 more and I can get her. I already have a vedan L+ for her to eat as she is an L currentlt

fierce kayak
#

@torpid turret yup

torpid turret
#

Mean I got to the place I lost again so I will look in

chrome swan
#

Any help for this stage?

white dawn
torpid turret
#

Am in think yes, khasos with the 5th, but that me.
@fierce kayak I found 1 think I wasn't able remember and that the faction advantages

chrome swan
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@white dawnuse shemira and replaced hogan

white dawn
#

Shemira instead of Hogan? I heard she's good only at 161

chrome swan
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@white dawnyup but she is good as usual

torpid turret
#

The HP boost kinda important here so I think better he won't, try first without then with shem

chrome swan
#

Anyone help me plz, i m stuck on 12-12

small grotto
chrome swan
warm ocean
torpid turret
#

In lvl 161 her ulti heal her while it on and that why she is good at 1v5 @white dawn

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@chrome swan sorry can't rlly help u, but someone will answer or they think about lineup then will say

chrome swan
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@white dawn use estrilda infront of brutus and replaced hogan by khasos and use shemira in the corner

white dawn
#

I don't have Brutus

chrome swan
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@white dawn i know i meant u can estrilda against brutus

white dawn
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Oh ok thanks!

chrome swan
#

Use* my pleasure

dusty rune
coral frigate
pale kettle
#

@small grotto I did that with a full LB team

warm ocean
#

@coral frigate

Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

Arden roots estrilda

pale kettle
slender bay
#

What setup would you do with this to progress?

pale kettle
#

@slender bay youโ€™ll be blessed by a little easier gameplay if you level Saveas. Heโ€™s an amazing carry

sleek portal
#

so what help are you looking for monkaW @pale kettle

pale kettle
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@sleek portal well Iโ€™m getting wrecked in both campaign 10-12 and kings tower 130 so Iโ€™m wondering what I could do to well not die. Figured it could be a lineup thing more than overall lvl

sharp egret
maiden quest
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@pale kettle I see a lack of CC in your heroes; you should start by raising (and not foddering) Arden

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@sharp egret synergy matters more than ascension level (particularly since Legendary isn't that huge a jump on stats over Elite+); I wouldn't try to fit her in roughshod

sleek portal
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@sharp egret in super early game, belinda can even be in front line as a semitank-nuker just cause she's at L tier right now for you
@pale kettle you have too much dps 0 tank 0 cc, hogan is not reliable tank, and also reset belinda and level hogan so you dont get level capped and there will be a mini power spike when you bring everyone to 121.

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@pale kettle also, shemira is not really good in the early-transitioning to mid kinda game, she's only useful from 161 onwards, you might as well as put her in crystal and level other heroes, judging by your hero pool its easy to do a 3-1-1 or 3-2 to take advantage of the bonus health and atk

sharp egret
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@sleek portal she dies in about a half second, Rowan dies (same equip) in much longer thanks to his abilities

I need some more summons lol

sleek portal
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exactly, you're really in the SUUPER early game, lineup shouldnt be your concern because you'll never know what you'll pull, in early game its all about level

sharp egret
#

Alright. I do disagree with that a bit because Iโ€™m much farther than a lot of people at the same level because of how Iโ€™ve managed my comp

pale kettle
#

@sleek portal So based on the information provided, I should use Lucius, Saveas, Belinda, Tasi since Arden is only Rare, and unsure on the fifth?

sleek portal
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@pale kettle if your lucius doesnt die in 3 seconds sure use him, but if you're going saveas you might as well as max him out and leave the rest at 121, and try to come up with heroes that benefit saveas like safiya/belinda in your lineup as they buff him in the fight, i dont really know how to efficiently play Saveas 1v5 strat cause i didnt use him to progress..

lofty yew
#

Total noob.. what do I do next .o.

sleek portal
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@lofty yew you're too early in the game, just keep palying and level, summon more and we can further advice

pale kettle
#

@cswl level 5 of your best rarity heroes equally and just rush to campaign as far as u can

lofty yew
#

Yes i mean which heroes do I focus on

sharp egret
#

I like how everyone new has an L Belinda thanks to the event lol . Someone better will probably reply @pale kettle but your Sav isnโ€™t doing much so under leveled, he is an excellent early game carry, ros doesnโ€™t need to be that high unless sheโ€™s doing more for you than I think, and fab is shit

regal swallow
pale kettle
#

When i got rosaline i got pulled thru an entire chapter putting her in place of saveas

drowsy hemlock
coral frigate
#

@warm ocean ok thanks ill try it out

sleek portal
#

@lofty yew it really doesnt matter tbh, you're probably 5 minutes into the game, just level any 5 heroes(not the green ones) and you're good

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@drowsy hemlock most people would advice using wilder trio backline and front line for you you can use estrilda/belinda/brutus/saveas for now

uncut pendant
#

Hi, can you help me please with my lineup for campain? I don't even know who should I use as dps: shemira, eiron or saveas that I could ascend to elite

sleek portal
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@regal swallow you should try to get 5 heroes that can get you to L+ asap, there is a mini power spike from 120-121 for all heroes, then you need to get arden to 141 asap for him to utilize the triple root, and if you're ever planning to use saveas it is best to over-level him so he can 1v5

lyric ridge
#

17-6 please this just absurd my team dies directly me shem is full mythic gear too

regal swallow
#

@sleek portal I can make a few ascensions but idk if I should do that with ones that Iโ€™m not gonna use

maiden quest
#

@uncut pendant focus on raising Saveas as your main damage-dealer: try to have him at level cap relative to his ascension, and also raise Arden; with your current heroes, though, you could also try a lightbearer comp

sleek portal
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@uncut pendant for now i might use arden nemora rosalind backline, and put lucius + 1 in front, not sure how well that works out but yeah arden can double root on 1 side and nemora can charm 1 enemy on the other side, rosalind is kind of a broken hero now, front line can be lucius + saveas(overlevel) or shemira(will be useless soon unless 161) or hogan(for 3-2 bonus health and atk) for now

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@regal swallow the safest way is to ascend Legendary tiers, and leave all the ascended tier at E+ until you're certain you can bring them to L+ | Legendary tiers who are at L+ can be used a fodders later on.

maiden quest
#

@lyric ridge focus on using only one carry --- you have both Shemira and Belinda; you need more CC (Arden/Tasi/Athalia)

oblique kindle
#

I got a bit stuck here, which one should i max and force. Pls help me with the lineup too, I dont think its the best so far.

uncut pendant
#

@maiden quest @sleek portal Thank you very much! I'll try it out

regal swallow
sleek portal
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@regal swallow arden 100% arden 141 is very very very powerful for CC

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@oblique kindle i usually do not ask people to re-roll in new servers, but numisu and Kaz dont really perform well in campaign progress... BUT THEN AGAIN you're probably 30mins into the game so just focus on any5 ( maybe saveas/kaz/numisu/ogi/arden ) for 3-2 bonus for now | can only further advice when you're probably 1 week into the game

lofty yew
#

@sleek portal
Lol this old man Thoran is solo carrying me...
But he spends too much time.. uhh pooping?

maiden quest
#

honestly, rerolling in this game doesn't mean much because you need SO many duplicates: even if you got lucky early on, it says nothing about your luck later on and even if you had bad luck early on, it doesn't mean you won't get lucky later

regal swallow
#

@sleek portal after ascending Arden I need 1 more to get all W over 121, who should i ascend?

maiden quest
#

I have had pretty average-bad luck with pulls in this game, but it hasn't been too bad because mainstay heroes like Saveas and Shemira can be obtained reliably

sleek portal
#

@regal swallow i see you have enough resource to bring vedan straight up to L+ for now, you should probably do that, the point here is to not get level capped, you can opt to not use him

exotic egret
sleek portal
#

@maiden quest exactly, rerolling doesnt do much, but new players might panic cause they didnt get the "op" hero 1-2 days into the game..

maiden quest
#

yeah, but I think new players also get fixated on the OP heroes to the detriment of their progress, because they try and raise Brutus and Shemira way too early, instead of focusing on Arden and Saveas

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it pains me when I see all these new players post their team comps and they don't even have Saveas or Arden because they've foddered them to Shemira or whoever else

sleek portal
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@exotic egret nemora must charm saveas, belinda front line, put lyca middle back for haste, arden at bottom back for CC, you need to consider leveling all heroes to 121 now, 140 brutus usually dont do much, people usually over-level saveas.

exotic egret
#

Saveas is destroying me and one silly question but

sleek portal
#

if you put lyca in, nemora should charm opponent saveas fast enough that he actually helps you kill off 1 enemy by himself

exotic egret
#

How do i position nemora to actually charm saveas?

atomic notch
maiden quest
#

Nemora tends to charm the enemy opposite her; you have to just reset the stage over and over until she actually does

sleek portal
#

@exotic egret you can try this, hope it helps

Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Belinda
Arden

exotic egret
#

Oh alright, but saveas is 2 shotting everything except brutus and brutus aint killing fast enough

lusty meadow
sleek portal
#

@lusty meadow pretty sure the normal meta lineup can help you clear any PoT

lusty meadow
#

The trinity of Wilders and Brutus + Shemira? @sleek portal I've tried that but Brutus just gets wrecked :/

maiden quest
#

@lusty meadow honestly, I wasn't able to clear Divine Realm until I had Mythic'd my Shemira and gotten Mythic gear on her; the team comps in there are really nasty, particularly the Ascended Brutuses, because they can solo-wipe your party

maiden quest
#

please don't spam mridula, other people need help as well and it's hard to see

chrome swan
#

I m not samping i need help that's all

lusty meadow
#

Ahh okay, I figured, it was such a huge step up from The Far Frontier @maiden quest

fierce fjord
maiden quest
#

yeah, Peaks of Time goes from you being able to beat it when they open to not being able to beat it even chapters later lol

sleek portal
#

@lusty meadow its either you level more, or you need to get super lucky with relics, im sure i did it with 165 shemira and the rest at 150-160 using meta lineup, you should probably also get 141 for all heroes for now, but yeah that PoT is the start of all bullshit PoT, you need to get all atk, and reset cooldown for shemira

sharp egret
#

I canโ€™t get far into the second peaks of time lol

chrome swan
#

@maiden questany tips for my stage?

maiden quest
#

@chrome swan I was looking at your heroes, and you're in kind of a weird place that makes it hard. basically, the way to beat 99% of stages is to have a team composition where you have a single hero who does a ton of damage and then other heroes to hold off the enemy (tanks and crowd control) while they do so; however, you don't really have any crowd control (heroes like Nemora, Tasi, Arden)

exotic egret
#

@sleek portal dude i 1 shot it with your lineup suggestion, thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

chrome swan
#

@maiden questbut i have nemora

maiden quest
#

@chrome swan from what you have, I would say using Belinda, Lucius, Raine, and Nemora makes sense (position Nemora opposite the enemy Saveas and just reset the stage until she charms him); I'm not sure on who I'd recommend for the last hero, but your Silvina is not a bad option

astral marsh
chrome swan
#

@maiden questwell i have all that hetoes that u r mentioned

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Heroes*

copper fossil
maiden quest
#

@chrome swan yeah, I mean trying to use that team composition; you should probably try and read some new player guides because your hero list is a little wonky, but not irreparable

placid delta
#

@copper fossil shemira

chrome swan
#

@maiden questso what u suggest, what should i do to pass it?

maiden quest
#

@copper fossil lots of people recommend Shemira but I personally recommend buying Nemora first (just once) before buying Shemira because Nemora will help you make a LOT of PvE progress, but you won't use Shemira until much later on

copper fossil
#

Yeah thats what i was thinking.. I would probably reach 45k again before Shemira gets good...

maiden quest
#

lol Shemira doesn't become super useful until she's Mythic, which takes 4 copies of her

chrome swan
#

I experiement many heroes to pass my stage but still i became failed

copper fossil
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ I Guess Nemora then

placid delta
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@chrome swan your heroes are in a mess right now. For now, just build arden to L +. Arden LVL 141 counters saveas pretty hard. Once you get enough shemira copies, feed silvina to shemira to get her to mythic

drowsy hemlock
midnight crag
finite adder
maiden quest
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@chrome swan try a backline of Nemora on top, Raine mid, Belinda bottom, and then maybe Lucius/Hendrick in front, or something like that; I'm having a rough time finding an "obvious win" with your hero lineup

chrome swan
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@maiden quest @drowsy hemlockthanks guys if it's work i will infrom u guys

torn lava
#

Anything I can do guys or do I need levels?

placid delta
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@finite adder if possible get your shemira to 141 and put arden into resonating crystal

torn lava
finite adder
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@placid delta Yeah thats what ive been thinking too, almost enough lab tokens to get another one of her

placid delta
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@finite adder are you dying too fast in this stage or lacking DPS?

finite adder
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Dying too fast by the looks of it, Gotten dow to a 1v2 but wasnt enough

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Well just got some lucky RNG and beat it...

placid delta
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@finite adder replace belinda with nara and place her opposite of belinda

cinder crag
drowsy hemlock
#

Idk I would say use 4 light bearers but keep brutus for faction advantages

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@cinder crag

cinder crag
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Thanks for help but I passed it Rosaline and tasi carried me lol

oak zephyr
foggy crane
torn lava
foggy crane
#

Try Arden lyca tasi back

maiden quest
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I would actually do Nemora/Lyca/Arden backline and Lucius/Saveas frontline

torn lava
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@oak zephyr try saveas bot and Arden top
You might have to reroll a lot for good cc

maiden quest
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I'd prioritize Arden rooting the bottom because if you can charm Saveas with Nemora, the top isn't dangerous

torn lava
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@maiden quest thanks Iโ€™ll try that

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Lucius dies instantly up top and nemora only charms ogi

maiden quest
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have to reset until she successfully charms Saveas, or you could try Arden up top, like Mat recommended

torn lava
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She charmed ogi but their saveas couldnโ€™t kill mine. Then when ogi died she charmed saveas and he killed that archer chick I just had better sustain than them with Lucius ^^

maiden quest
#

nice nice

sly sparrow
maiden quest
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I would swap Brutus and Shemira because Ankhira drains energy which prevents Shem from ulting; would also consider swapping Nemora for Athalia and positioning her opposite the enemy Shem

sly sparrow
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It doesnt work :/

maiden quest
#

what kills you

sly sparrow
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Shem and Vedan

maiden quest
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also just realized this, but don't use Brutus pre-141; he's useless

sly sparrow
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I will wait until i get everyone to 141 but ty

maiden quest
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I feel like you might still be able to do it, although hitting 141 will be the way to do it for sure; try putting Saveas in instead of Brutus and then try putting Dura's Call on Shemira

chrome swan
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I tried all that heroes that u guys tell me but sill i m failed. Is there any other way to ascend heroes cz brutus killed my heroes

forest flume
bold musk
maiden quest
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lol what is that party; I can't tell what it's supposed to do

forest flume
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@bold musk you could try to reset your heroes, make saveas 160 and others 120. You should get an arden to lvl 141 asap. A support backline like arden lyca tasi/nemora helps a lot in campaign

maiden quest
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is that campaign or lab?

bold musk
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Lab

maiden quest
#

might want to show your relics too, then

bold musk
shut parrot
#

@bold musk try sav, belin, nem/vurk, golus, athen

civic canopy
indigo jolt
timber solar
#

any suggestions? can't get past this stage, 10-19, isabella always gets into 1v1 with saveas and he always loses

safe quartz
#

@timber solar Try using the Shemira you borrowed instead of Hogan, and replace Silvina with Lyca to get the haste buff

timber solar
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shem is on cooldown right now but once its back on ill try, is lyca better than silvina rn? in this lineup

safe quartz
#

I would say so, due to the increased amount of attacks you can do. If you do get Shem back, place her where Lucius is and Lucius where Hogan is, since she is still a bit squishy at that point due to her level

timber solar
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alright, i'll see what i can do , thank you

steep cape
#

@timber solar if you donโ€™t pass tag me and show all heroes you have

hushed valley
#

12-40. halp pls โค current team is Shemira, Estrilda up front and Nemora, Arden, and either Belinda/Saveas in back

warm ocean
#

@hushed valley need to see the level ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

hushed valley
#

oh duh, right one sec. xD

gritty socket
hushed valley
gritty socket
#

I'm kinda stuck in chapter 6 atm and well luck hasn't exactly been on my side draw wise, can you guys suggest a line up from mine, brutus has all purple gear to

warm ocean
#

Try

Nem
Estrilda
Lyca
Shem
Arden

hushed valley
#

even though shes just epic?

warm ocean
#

Yes her haste gives everyone 70 energy

true dock
hushed valley
#

that worked ๐Ÿ˜„ haha amazing... thanks. I had planned on using her soon, but I felt like plain old epic was good enough you know?

vernal berry
indigo jolt
#

Eironn, to pull both eironns. If you have 1.

vernal berry
#

Nopeulricry

weak nova
#

definitely need eironn

pale kettle
weak nova
#

the more higher the more he is needed, mostly because wilder lacks aoe dmg so much

pale kettle
warm ocean
indigo jolt
#

@warm ocean Try
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
also, whats was your 225?

gritty socket
#

what about mine?

indigo jolt
#

Brutus Hogan front,
Saveas Tasi Nemora(Mehira) back.
Read pinned in #classic-questions @gritty socket

gritty socket
#

ok

frigid jackal
#

Stuck on 18-36, any ideas? Usual lineup is brutus tasi front, Lyca nemora gorvo back

tame acorn
#

15-40 Iโ€™ve been trying all sorts of combos with what I have. Any suggestions?

gritty socket
#

it worked thanks

placid delta
#

@tame acorn nemora on the middle to charm ferael

frigid dagger
sage mango
#

Stuck on this. Any suggestions?

steep cape
#

@frigid dagger my Guildie beat it with grez kaz nara shem and I think brutus

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@sage mango does tasi get a chance to ult

wise stream
pale kettle
warm ocean
#

@wise stream make shem 161 you kinda just start winning

Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Tasi

wise stream
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@warm ocean thought so, was hoping to clear some stages before that. Will take about a week to get the last 2 heroes to 140

limber copper
warm ocean
#

@wise stream you can make someone 40 levels higher then the lowest so just make her 161

@limber copper you always run shem and lyca thats your problem, well one of them at least no lyca

wise stream
#

All heroes must at the pentagram must be 140, thats what it says when i try to level up shemira

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So cant get her to 161 before i level the others to a ninimum of 140, or am I missing something

indigo jolt
#

@limber copper
Arden
Shem
Athalia
Brutus
Tasi

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@wise stream You're correct.

wise stream
#

Ok, then ill just have to take it slowly for now

limber copper
#

@indigo jolt arden gets one shot and tasi lives long enough to put them to sleep but brutus is last one standing with her

indigo jolt
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Switch gear, so jumps to tasi. Give tasi M gear with hp not def off shem if is 1 shot with no crit.

indigo jolt
prisma granite
#

Thx ill give that a go

indigo jolt
#

May need chalice on Shem, if still cant tank Kaz at start.

prisma granite
#

Oh need to get chalice from pot then

indigo jolt
#

Try
Shem
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi.
see if that works, need arden to cc other arden minum

prisma granite
#

@indigo jolt thx i beat it first try

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Thank god even rare arden can get root off

indigo jolt
#

lol...

limber copper
#

Somehow arden still is prioritized even with tasi in no gear.

indigo jolt
#

What are there defense,silv always jumps to lowest.

prisma granite
#

Check defenses

limber copper
true dock
indigo jolt
#

give arden drape.

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@true dock Run an arden, if needed of any ascension level.

shut parrot
#

@honest storm rosa next to belinda, replace thoran with saveus or arden

chrome swan
#

@grave currentu need leg+ heroes to pass. Ur heroes are not higher level. Try to make ur brutus leg or mythic

grave current
#

oh rip ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

indigo jolt
#

@grave current That labyrinth?

grave current
#

yes

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my team just stall until its time up

indigo jolt
#

who does fawkes coffin?

grave current
#

no one for some reasons...wtf

indigo jolt
#

Kaz probably dodges it. Drop fawkes for athalia, and move athalia opposite nemora.

fair sky
grave current
#

doestn work

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atalia just moves around
but by opposite you mean face to face ?

indigo jolt
#

yeah.

#

do you have any crystal spots? and you should really reset your other levelled heroes.

hasty ingot
grave current
#

yes i have cristals spot

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which one ?

indigo jolt
#

Only one crystal spot or more?

grave current
#

yes

indigo jolt
#

Arden then, you need cc.

grave current
#

how do i position everything now

mild wing
#

@indigo jolt Do you know if twins are available on the test realm event or only athalia for celestial

indigo jolt
#

you mean the medals one?

mild wing
#

ya

indigo jolt
#

only athalia and ezizh, theirs a reddit post with all the relevant images.

mild wing
#

ah didnt see it on there, I forgot to save, cool

ember stone
hasty nebula
regal swallow
winter burrow
grizzled galleon
median nexus
mental viper
#

@hasty nebula what type do you prefer or you usually use? Try to have a mix of that and use saveas, sherim, layla, the twins, skreg, Valkyrie

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@regal swallow try to level up Arden / the undead king/layla,use the twins, the new mauler Mostly use characters to be able to stun or block

ember oak
mental viper
#

@winter burrow since most of them are graveborn, use characters like brutus, sherim, grezhul, the cat woman, the new graveborn, Arden, the new lightbearer (the child). They will either stun the enemy

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@grizzled galleon Regarding wilder heroes, sherim, grezhul, the mauler guardian, skreg. Level up your lightbearer hero (the one next to the new mauler hero)

regal swallow
#

@mental viper everyone dies too quick :/

mental viper
#

@regal swallow I see, M + heroes are hard to handle so hmmmm try to use a different strategy of heroes or a mix

ember oak
#

@mental viper you got any lineup for me please? Iโ€™ve been stuck in that level this whole day

regal swallow
#

@mental viper any idea who I could use then :/

spice flax
empty stream
#

Hmm Try Arden Saveas Nem in back, Lyca and Brutus in the front. Shem isn't really frontline material until after she gets her power spike at 161 @spice flax

spice flax
#

i dont know my brutus dies really quickly, ill convert my lucius gear to him and try it out. is Lyca's dodge high enough for that stage?

empty stream
#

Not really, she'll more than likely die anyways, but her buff before then will come in handy for the other champs since even if she dies early she'll buff your other champs

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Better to get that buff and have that early on than to lose a Shem and be down completely

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if you need the dps, swap Nem with Shem, play around with the 3rd slot and see what works

spice flax
empty stream
#

Swap Arden and Nem, Nem should go top right

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top left, rather (in the top slot in the back)

ember oak
#

You should reset your saveas and make your Shem 161 imo

empty stream
#

@ember oak nah that would drop his other champs to below 140, wouldn't recommend that just yet

ember oak
#

Alright

empty stream
#

Granted that is a valuable method, she'd certainly carry hard

spice flax
empty stream
#

He should still be decent enough to push some dps, granted he's not ascended to Legendary+

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If you have to, try swapping him with Shem and see if she can crank out the dps before everyone dies off

grizzled galleon
empty stream
#

which floor is that, I think I just passed it earlier today

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Lemme check my screenshots

torn lava
#

@empty stream you screenshot every passed level? XP thatโ€™s pretty sweet

empty stream
#

Yeah, it gives me a reference to look back at since I used to just skip them not realizing what I used to actually beat them lol

plucky flint
#

@torn lava there are a few posters here that do this. Itโ€™s a super helpful resource. I always search for the stage Iโ€™m stuck on before asking for help and 90% of the time a good comp has already been posted.

empty stream
#

@grizzled galleon Try swapping Lyca and put shem on the front line, make Nem slightly stronger so that Silv jumps to him first

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Ideally put Tasi in his place, I remembered I got a lucky dodge on her which made it work if I recall correctly

plucky flint
#

@grizzled galleon doesnโ€™t arden get one shot with that lineup? Would think you need to run tasi/nem instead

pale kettle
#

Is tasi and lyca really that strong?

empty stream
#

@pale kettle Yes, those two have literally carried me through most of chap 20

plucky flint
#

@pale kettle yes. Haste and tasiโ€™s ult are absolutely must runs for my lineups

pale kettle
#

Well I'm still a newb, but should I be using them over my elite+? I'll send a ss in a sec

empty stream
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I think there's only 2-3 fights in Chap 20 where you won't be using the both of them at some point, the Tasi/Nem/Lyca combo is really strong lol

plucky flint
#

The other nice thing about them is their ascension levels arenโ€™t that important. Theyโ€™re helpful, of course, but they are still v useful at E/E+

pale kettle
#

So I should probably try those 3 plus my bel and lucius

plucky flint
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@pale kettle tbh, I would swap sav for bel. Get him up to 120 ASAP then ascend him to L+. Also, build an arden. Heโ€™s more useful than nem on many many stages

empty stream
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^^ Arden is extremely useful throughout most of the campaign

pale kettle
#

Appreciate the help, only started a week ago but don't wanna make too many bad decisions on my own lol

plucky flint
#

@pale kettle check the pinned messages in the #classic-questions channel. Some helpful guiding principles in there

pale kettle
#

Awesome!

empty stream
#

@grizzled galleon Tryt Tasi/Shem/Arden if you want to keep Lyca in the front

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The CC you will most certainly need but I would definitely put Tasi in there

#

That's 20-33 right?

fresh wagon
spice flax
#

arg can't do this, saveas either doesn't survive enough to ultimate or doesn't dish out enough dmg, i dont know. i might have to wait until i can get saveas to 141-160

empty stream
#

Did you try Shem in his place? She might work on the backline but definitely not in the front at that level

#

@spice flax

spice flax
#

might also be that brutus doesn't sling off his ult when he gets to 1% lol once my frontline gets shredded the back just gets picked on. i am also one golus and one rare saveas away from L+ saveas

empty stream
#

Hmm...instead try Arden/Saveas/Shem instead on that backline

restive yoke
toxic solstice
#

Thats my most successful team at the moment, any suggestions ? Can I do better with wht I have ? Surprisingly I was stuck somewhere and managed to win by putting Ezizh instead of Fawkes, I didnt expect that,probably a one time thing and a lot of luck. This team has been carrying me for a while, but I feel like my 2 tanks being only Elite is now a big problem but I dont know how to improve the team. The 25% atk and HP buff is just too insane I dont know if I can afford to let it go

spice flax
#

@empty stream and replace nemora? and shem/saveas/rden from up to down?

empty stream
#

Yeah @spice flax yeah give that a shot, see if it tips it in your favor

#

@restive yoke you're missing some strong front-liners for that one, that's 11-28 right?

restive yoke
#

Yeah, holy crap, you have good memory XD

empty stream
#

I was stuck on that one for a while, it was burned to memory, lol hmm let me see what we can work with

#

Try 1-Arden, 2-Nem, 3-Saveas, 4-Kel, 5-Lyca

#

Level-wise your team should be strong enough to beat that floor

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Just got to work with that front-line a bit @restive yoke since that's what's looking like what's stopping you from clearing it

#

Hmm message it to me, looks like it got removed @spice flax

restive yoke
#

@empty stream Nemora and Lyca are both mercenaries
Unless you want me to use my Elite Lyca?

empty stream
#

Use your Elite, she's strong enough

restive yoke
#

Okay

wraith barn
restive yoke
#

@empty stream
Ahhh...Golus just tanks Saveas forever :(

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Oh, never mind, I just switched Kelthur & Saveas...Who should I use instead of Nemora since she's a mercenary?

empty stream
#

lemme check @restive yoke one sec

regal swallow
empty stream
#

@restive yoke Maybe Mehira? I'd still use Nem even though she's a merc but Mehira might be able to spot her instead

sharp hornet
#

@regal swallow level up saveas above everyone and put him in front of vedan. Should kill him before ulti pops

wraith barn
restive yoke
#

I can't use Nemora more than once a week, and I used her to pass the stage

sharp hornet
#

@restive yoke try moving saveas to front line and putting fawkes I

empty stream
#

Gonna need to level him though or put him on the crystal

restive yoke
#

I already passed it @sharp hornet, but thank you for the advice! I'll use it on the next wall I hit

empty stream
#

Oh you passed it! lol @restive yoke

sharp hornet
#

@restive yoke if you have rowan I love him. He feeds saveas enough pots to stay alive.

restive yoke
#

My Rowan is only Elite, though...

sharp hornet
#

@restive yoke so is mine even if he dies it still uses the pots

restive yoke
#

Ohhh! I see

sharp hornet
restive yoke
sharp hornet
#

@restive yoke if you can use lucius I'd put him up front with saveas or Brutus. Then replace mehira probably.

#

Have to try random combos honestly. I had been stuck on 13-8 for a few days and swapped in some elite heroes like lyca and beat it in a few tries. Just depends on rng

restive yoke
#

Huh...Are higher tier heroes really not as good as some elites?

empty stream
#

yeah some champs are better than others no matter the ascension early on

sharp hornet
#

@restive yoke seems so I switch equipment around to give them the best chance.

restive yoke
#

Would you really replace Mehira? Her +30% defense is insane

sharp hornet
#

@restive yoke personally my lucius is only L and if I can get the rng to keep him alive enough to pop his ult usually he keeps squad alive long enough to give saveas a chance to do pure damage

empty stream
#

Higher-tier champs are better for late game usually, Legendary+ ones seem to fair better in early game from what I've seen (with the exception of Arden, he rocks even though he maxes out at 160)

sharp hornet
#

@empty stream I hate he maxes out but yes once over 141 he is awesome to slow down a battle

restive yoke
#

Gosh, I guess I'll try out Lucius instead of Mehira. I just don't know. Mehira has such an insane kit

sharp hornet
#

@restive yoke I'd try taking arden down to 141 and raising everyone else as high as possible as well. I have mehira as well and just not worth it right now.

restive yoke
#

Who would I raise? Saveas is already maxed...Is Kelthur really worth dumping more resources into? I'm also currently not using Shemira or Belinda

sharp hornet
#

@restive yoke I would just even them out more whoever is on the crystal. Made a world of difference keeping my back lines alive longer having them even rather than 1 super higher than the rest

#

Anyone know the maximum amount of lav tokens you can get in a run is?

restive yoke
thin falcon
#

An idea would be to balance out your teams' levels instead of focusing on one hero, get them all up to 160 before anything else

tacit cairn
toxic solstice
#

I guess I would go Brutus Khasos Golus Shemira Rosaline, making sure Rosaline stick to Shemira. But I'm not the most experienced player here I'm only around stage 12

warm ocean
warm ocean
#

Assistance please ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

lone maple
umbral badger
#

Ogi literally squished everyone thanks to enemy cc

onyx blaze
azure needle
#

Who to use for Wrizz? I can get either tasi or nemora to mythic and can unlock their sig item

pale kettle
plush kelp
warm ocean
deep spruce
azure needle
#

Who to use for Wrizz? I can get either tasi or nemora to mythic and can unlock their sig item

dull hull
tall rose
worthy grove
#

Sry german relicts

muted cairn
#

@worthy grove watch your language please.

feral yarrow
#

Any help? Im currently using Belinda, hogan, shemira, nemora, and athalia. I want something that can shred guild bosses or get through PvE easily.

oak lance
muted cairn
#

Lucius, Saveas -- Belinda, Nemora, Lyca/Arden

burnt raft
tacit cairn
#

Shemira for sure

hot nebula
#

Shemira 100%

burnt raft
#

Okay ty guys

muted cairn
#

Shemira is only really good 161 onward, Is go for Nemora first @burnt raft

strange glen
ember bane
muted cairn
#

@strange glen switch KAZ and Hendrick positions and switch Arden and ulmus positions and switch Athalia for Tasi

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@ember bane I don't think you stand a chance tbh, you can try switching Arden for Tasi but that won't help a lot, and switch Shemira and Brutus* positions, and then put Tasi behind Brutus up top

strange glen
#

timed out, f grezhul

#

f in the chat fellas

cyan pendant
#

@ember bane can be cleared with less, nemora needs to charm ulmus and get shemira a shield. gonna be very rng on arden root from back middle position

ember bane
#

@cyan pendant i wanna use tasi+ Shemira So let me know line up ty

cyan pendant
#

don't think there's any room for her

frigid dagger
#

@ember bane why u can't win? No enough dmg, they destroy u before u can ult once?

versed kite
eager jay
muted cairn
#

@versed kite switch Tasi and Lyca positions and switch Lyca for Belinda. Lightbearers > Maulers

versed kite
#

@muted cairn will give that a shot!

muted cairn
#

@eager jay switch Arden and Tasi positions, switch Arden for Brutus and switch Nemora and Shemira positions

eager jay
#

@muted cairn That's my usual lineup. It's not cutting it unfortunately

slow kiln
#

I have no clue what to do with this , most of my characters are level 136

muted cairn
#

@eager jay might just need some more levels then if that's not helping, try doing it at least 20 times cus RNG, @slow kiln where are images?

slow kiln
#

My phone or being weird

#

But itโ€™s Mythic level 152

Safiya
Brutus
Eironn
Skreg
Tasi

azure needle
#

Who to use for wrizz? I can get tasi/nemora to mythic and get either of their sig items

muted cairn
#

@azure needle normal Wrizz or Labyrinth Wrizz?

vague rose
azure needle
#

@muted cairn normal wrizz

muted cairn
#

@azure needle Shemira, Brutus, Belinda, Raine, Estrilda

elfin cargo
ember bane
#

@cyan pendant tried both Arden n tasi but Brutus n shemira don't survive too long

elfin cargo
#

Could probably get my Nemora or Arden (maybe both) up 1-2 more tiers each. And maybe one of the other graveborn.

#

yup boosting arden did the trick! yay

frigid dagger
#

@ember bane what if u use arden on nemora position and he root arden lyca and kaz? U need a lot of luck for that but maybe can work that way

split edge
#

Hello ! I am a beginner and i would like to know how build a line up with what i own

fierce kayak
#

@dreamy flicker try
Lyca
Kaz/brutus
Nemora/arden
Brutus/kaz
Arden/nemora

Don't L your heroes anymore.
Try to build Arden L+

patent heron
#

Can i do better? Anyone have a team that i could build?

weak nova
#

If your rowan can survive try replace him with baden or estrilda

rigid marsh
dreamy flicker
#

@ @fierce kayak thanks, I'll try that ๐Ÿ˜Š

ivory swan
maiden quest
#

looks like you pretty much have it beaten already?

frigid dagger
wide wasp
#

@frigid dagger if the tasi's are a big problem, could try to put arden in middle so he has a chance to root both tasi's (which he is unable to unless he is in middle). I'm assuming the Ira is also firing at your shemira so probably swap places with shemira and brutus so shemira doesn't get the healing reduction debuff

chilly turret
frigid dagger
#

@wide wasp it was better than the last comp but my shem does no dmg, ty anyways i will try more times

edgy surge
wide wasp
#

@edgy surge I can't see a timeline where that lucius would be useful in any capacity. Start by replacing him with almost anything else

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@chilly turret All I can really say is don't invest too much into Ulmus for the time being, he is good in PvP but fairly weak in Campaign. If you manage to get more copies of him to make him L+, you can use him as tradebait for #mercenary though, to get the heroes you want for your library. He is pretty wanted and people will offer a lot in return.

edgy surge
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@wide wasp mehira lucius is the basic combo that im trying to pull since lucius just heals back the damage that mehira does to allies

lament sonnet
wide wasp
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And he isn't getting deleted in 0.05 seconds as soon as he reaches the frontline? You must be practicing witchcraft @edgy surge

weak nova
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rOHNOwan yeah, like any melee tank/dps units, ascended is a must for lucius when you reach chap 21+ or he"ll get deleted in 3 seconds

wide wasp
#

@lament sonnet

Saveas
Henrik
Bellinda
Lyca
Arden

try something like this

lament sonnet
#

Will try thanks!

wide wasp
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@lament sonnet Also, if Fawkes caskets the Khasos before his first set of axes land on the backline, then you could try swapping out bellinda for fawkes, and switching the positions of arden and saveas

edgy surge
#

u were right, i did it with rowan thane @wide wasp @weak nova

wide wasp
#

good job

edgy surge
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im gonna join the light @strange moat i went for M+ thane L+ lucius today and i'm not going back light

weak nova
#

ogifrown you sure about that ? you are at 20 but i don't see any ascended LB, its gonna get rough

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meta shem - brut - wilders would be a safer bet

edgy surge
#

i think i'll decide after chap 20 where to go with faction scrolls cause with this mehira idk where to head

weak nova
#

Yeah, you need at least Lucius, Thane and Belinda ascended

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or mono LB won't be working

mental forum
weak nova
#

Lucius, Thane + Shem may work though

edgy surge
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ye i dont wanna go full LB but lucius thane shem was the plan, can throw in estrilda slowly

wide wasp
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@mental forum try putting +4/5 mythic boots and dura's call on your arden and see if u can get him to root faster than the enemy arden. needs some RNG retries

wise kestrel
#

@mental forum I found mine

twin hound
wise kestrel
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@twin hound this worked for me, I had to figure out how to buy the most time from silvina

twin hound
#

Hmm your Shem is over 200. Iโ€™m a ways off from that ๐Ÿ˜ž

silver citrus
queen field
frigid dagger
humble egret
nocturne saddle
#

Any lineup recommendations for 16-28? Any help would be appreciated :).

glossy furnace
misty grotto
#

Id wait for one more fodder and choose Arden

toxic ravine
#

Saveas kinda stopped carrying

misty grotto
#

ArdenS so much fodder

toxic ravine
#

On 11-22

loud scroll
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@toxic ravine itโ€™s difficult to say what would be effective without seeing what youโ€™re up against

rancid tundra
#

Regarding shemira, should I start focusing on her once I can get my first 161?

loud scroll
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@rancid tundra yes

runic cargo
#

Which one should I lvl up to 141 first?

rancid tundra
loud scroll
#

Saveas

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Absolutely. Itโ€™s pretty much the best team 95% of the time

runic cargo
#

@loud scroll you mean me, with saveas, right?

loud scroll
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Yes

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Sav is better than Shem at that level though @rancid tundra

ember bane
plucky flint
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@loud scroll Have you tried athalia? @silent wraith posted a line up a few weeks ago where he cleared it with a 180 crystal
Nem
Athalia
Shem
Brutus
Tasi

swift bluff
feral coral
swift bluff
loud scroll
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I have her though sheโ€™s only E+ @plucky flint

plucky flint
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@loud scroll I think his was only E. Sheโ€™s there for cc.

lone shale
zinc wren
ember bane
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@zinc wren what team setup you used for 20-36

zinc wren
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I donโ€™t even remember, just kept trying things until something worked

swift bluff
loud scroll
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@plucky flint my god it worked

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@feral coral Shem to 201 instead of raine to 181

feral coral
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Thank you, Iโ€™ll give that a go

frigid dagger
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@zinc wren I won that with ur exact lineup but nem 180 and lyca 200

loud scroll
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@lone shale nemora is definitely worth

lone shale
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@loud scroll ty. Although I honestly never thought Wilders were serious since... Seirus. I thought Seirus would be a carry but my god he sucked for me.

plucky flint
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@loud scroll congrats!

loud scroll
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@swift bluff Brutus is definitely gonna be more help than either on your frontline, tasi and nem are the keys to success with that

feral coral
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@loud scroll Is it worth me pushing Shem higher right now or should I focus on getting better/end-game heroes ascended?

plucky flint
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@swift bluff I would reset everyone other than Shem back to 160/161 and get Shem to 200

loud scroll
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Shem every time @feral coral, she carries so hard itโ€™s kinda broken

feral coral
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Good to know ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Sheโ€™s done a great job of carrying me thus far

formal phoenix
loud scroll
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Making her 220 instead of working on 200 for everyone else carried me from ch17 to 20

woven oxide
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Nem scales better

loud scroll
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Nem since sheโ€™d be l+

weak nova
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in general you want nemora a bit stronger than tasi so silvinia won't target her

feral coral
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Thank you; I just got her to 220

plucky flint
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@feral coral Shem is a monster all the way to 240. Itโ€™s only after that the meta team stops being so dominant and other comps start to shine, but those really depend on the luck of your draws

formal phoenix
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Good to know, thanks!

feral coral
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Good to know!

fierce stratus
brittle summit
loud scroll
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@lone shale none of them are a carry really but the supports can be life savers

ember oak
weak nova
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speechlessraine ppl use Eironn/kaz as carry but that's a long way at 240+

lone shale
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@loud scroll this is true. Granted I hear Shemira is a true carry, I don't see it yet and I just got her to 162. With her sig weapon unlocked.

ember oak
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Itโ€™s voyage or wonders so I need nobody to die

plucky flint
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Estrilda/khasos is also supposed to be great. And ferael is a better gb carry past 240. But it takes a long long time to get a 240+ team...

woven oxide
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@ember oak use lyca so you can get CCs out faster

ember oak
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Instead of who?

frigid dagger
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@ember oak switch arden with tasi and hope he root bot of their arden, if he can't root change tasi for lyca

ember oak
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Tasi has super ready

honest storm
north pelican
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@honest storm what I usually do is use other heroes to lower their hp then use your main line up to finish them off

maiden elk
ember oak
last granite
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@maiden elk

Dps: shemira/saveas/belinda (try to aim for 160 saveas for now. Belinda is a burst dps so use her with rosaline)
Tank: lucius, grezhul
Support: lyca, rosaline

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@ember oak I'd try using nara and silvina against ardens so they cant root as fast

ember oak
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Okay ty

next raven
sleek portal
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@ember oak you dont even need to beat that, it will go away...... it doesnt drop relic either...

tawny jewel
honest storm
placid delta
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@tawny jewel lyca tank instead of shemira

tawny jewel
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@placid delta all others the same?

ember bane
placid delta
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Depends if khasos one-shot arden

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@tawny jewel swap lyca and shemira

tawny jewel
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K thanks

ember oak
placid delta
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@ember oak try brutus saveas front line, arden lyca tasi

ember oak
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My arden lyca tasi are dead ๐Ÿ˜›

placid delta
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@ember oak you need to build up some energy before approaching this stage

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So tasi can ult immediately at the start of the battle

ember oak
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I can reset I guess

tawny jewel
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@placid delta still getting rolled

ember oak
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@placid delta tasi and saveas now have their supers ready but the middle wilder guy gets them before they activate it

placid delta
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@ember oak if you auto tasi should ult before eironn pulls them