#lineup-help

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limber helm
wise kestrel
toxic ravine
dense niche
idle girder
high sluice
steep cape
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@wise kestrel do you have athalia?

zinc wren
solid hazel
fresh turret
sly sparrow
honest storm
chilly prism
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Put saveas up front. Arden/tasi/lyca in the back

bright geyser
gusty wave
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Currently at 6-12, but I feel like I could get way further with another comp and same level heroes. Any help appreciated

mild wing
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@gusty wave Use saveas as your overlevelled hero he = is the best carry until lvl 160

gusty wave
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Which heroes should I use next to him? And should I just level them to 61 and saveas to further?

woven monolith
mild wing
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go saveas until hes capped, then the rest

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@woven monolith Saveas should be overlevelled , level him to cap then level the rest he will carry your team get him to L asap

honest storm
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@chilly prism nope, don't work..
Silvina just kills everything

sly sparrow
mild wing
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If you like the GB use grezhul instead of hogan and put saveas in for ira @gusty wave

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@sly sparrow Are arden and lyca dying right away?

sly sparrow
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Ehh not right away but theyre one of first ye

oblique phoenix
mild wing
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@sly sparrow try to put nemora top and get a good charm off

sly sparrow
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Isnt she better when she charms Saveas?

meager peak
mild wing
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brutus should be able to hold, and it will save your backline if khasos goes

hidden rampart
mild wing
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just something to try@sly sparrow all i do when im stuck is try random positions and heros. weird stuff has worked before

meager peak
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@hidden rampart saveas up front drop hogan for arden?

mild wing
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@hidden rampart Saveas should be behind brutus for -def

sly sparrow
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It doesnt work... nemora dies before xharm

mild wing
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@sly sparrow have you tried cutting arden or nemora and adding saveas

sly sparrow
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Wilder trio is too good to pass up

mild wing
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have you tried it>?

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and how many times are you trying, it should be 10 times bare minimum per formation

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sometimes it takes a lot of attempts, morethe higher you get, with the same form

meager peak
mild wing
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@meager peak 1 second i wil check what I beat it with

sly sparrow
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Nothing works i give up

meager peak
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@mild wing ty I appreciate the information

vital beacon
mild wing
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I used 1-5 Lyca, brutus, tasi, nemora, shem in that order @meager peak reset for lyca dodge rng

meager peak
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Perfect, thanks
1
2
3
4
5?

mild wing
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other way 1-2 is front 3-4-5 is back

meager peak
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3
1
4
2
5

mild wing
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put grace on lyca for hp and dodge

vital beacon
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@mild wing any idea for a line up with my heroes?

mild wing
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@vital beacon I would lucius saveas front, belinda raine nemora back

vital beacon
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@mild wing thank you kindly

mild wing
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You want to overlevel saveas, not level all equally

winged peak
neon sleet
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Hi guys, I can only M+ one of these: Lyca or Nemora. Which is better to M+ ?

pale kettle
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Nemora M+ gets a new heal with her signature item

neon sleet
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a New Heal? I think she has it already, bc she has the item

mild wing
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its from the unlock not M+ its so you dont waste the fodder and get stuck 321

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if you raise 1 then get the dupes for the other first, your L+ fodder is gone. And the stat boost m to m+ is minimal, but if you feel confident in making another L+ soon or dont care, then I would do Lyca

neon sleet
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oooh I see i see, yeah you to see which one I get ... wel lI only have 1 purple of each lol so either would take ages

mild wing
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out of the wilder trio go lyca first and then tasi or nemora, lyca benefits the most from ascension gaining dodge primarily

honest storm
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Has someone any good idea on this one?
This fucking silvina makes me crazy, the dmg from Saveas is good, but she dodges and blocks all the time, zero dmg on her

mild wing
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who is she jumping on

vital beacon
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@mild wing Also should I keep dura's Grace on saveas

mild wing
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use it on a frontline hero at that part of the game, its dodge hp and a shield, it does him no good in the back

vital beacon
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@mild wing you advised me to have Lucius saveas Belinda Raine and Nemora

mild wing
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i got mixed up Yes saveas 100%

pure phoenix
mild wing
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I would try putting lyca in spot 1 for haste/try to dodge kaz and move shem to backline probably for nemora

pure phoenix
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It was better, survived a little longer, but that kaz still kills my lyca and shemira before shemira even gets a chance to use her ulti :/

mild wing
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try it 10x at least

pure phoenix
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The better attempt, survived 15 sec xD
Damn kaz and Ira, both do too much dmg

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They oneshot my shemira with 5.6k armor and 470k hp :C

mild wing
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can try flipping brutus and lyca, brutus in front of kaz

tepid current
pure phoenix
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Still the same, @mild wing , I guess I need to upgrade my heroes to 181 or wait for next week mercs, thanks anyway 😛

mild wing
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@tepid current try to take out raine and put nemora behind brutus to charm

lime hamlet
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8-12 any tips?

tepid current
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Yep I've tried thta many many times @mild wing

lime hamlet
pure phoenix
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@tepid current try to swap Arden with belinda, so he doesnt get oneshot by Khasos and he can root at least 2/3 times

tepid current
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Tried that too :( @pure phoenix

honest storm
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@mild wing
Tasi

regal swallow
tepid current
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When I got to this stage I had 1 lvl 160 and mostly lvl 120s. Now I have ascended Belinda lvl 167 and all 140s and I have not been able to make any difference

mild wing
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You got there off the 160 carry but now its not working, it may still be a level thing, getting saveas to L+ will help a lot

tepid current
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My Sav is L+ I got here using my 160 Sav but ppl told me to replace him with Belinda when I got her ascended

pure phoenix
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@tepid current Take Raine out, and put nemora like tugey said and swap arden with belinda

tepid current
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When I do that @pure phoenix i can't even kill Brutus cuz he's immune for so long.

pure phoenix
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The 3 wilders faction bonus should be superior to raine, but if that doesn't work, i have no idea ahah
But always try to spam at least 10/20 times the fight, sometimes rngesus helps

tepid current
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The closest I ever got was when I had raine in. Managed to kill 2units lmao

proud birch
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I am new to the game and I seem to be stuck, reading lots on the heroes and stuff but no matter what my team gets insta klled un 2 seconds

tepid current
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I think I'm just gonna be stuck here for 2months till I can get my shemira to M.....

regal swallow
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Can someone help meeeeeee please 🥺🥺🥺🥺

glossy furnace
fleet storm
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@glossy furnace farael is ascended. the only ascended hero you should use as fodder is skreg :p

raw trail
regal swallow
molten brook
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Vedan is my arch nemesis. Wish I could help 😩

regal swallow
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Him and niru are my arch nemesis rn

primal hollow
fleet storm
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@regal swallow borrow that tasi and use belinda/lucius/fawkes/rowan. fawkes can coffin someone and tasi will blink another enemy out of existence so your belinda can work on killing the others.

grizzled galleon
edgy surge
hybrid mango
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@grizzled galleon Maybe try flipping lyc/tas and replace lyc with nara. Grabbing sy after her first hit can take her out for a decent bit. Arden to root is best from the middle

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so from top to bottom: nara-arden-tasi

untold maple
hybrid mango
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@untold maple If you are going to front with shem, its best to have her in front of a fast hitting (instead of a slow, heavy hitting) frontline enemy. Maybe flip. Nem to bottom to charm archer; if Tasi phases her though move to top - not good to direct across from Arden (he roots before you can charm, generally)

regal swallow
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@fleet storm which order should I put them in?

untold maple
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I have nem there since Lyca's haste let's her charm before he roots. Otherwise, Tasi phases Vedan and when I try to run shem against vedan he wrecks her hard

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@hybrid mango I lied, shem bottom she gets wrecked by ira

frigid dagger
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@edgy surge try top down shem brutus top down tasi lyca nemora

edgy surge
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Silvina Will kill tasi like that, with this setup silvina doesnt auto tasi due to estrilda stun

regal swallow
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I got past the level I was stuck on now I’m getting raped by vedan on this new one

warm ocean
floral nebula
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What’s the best team I can form right now from these guys? Been steady with one team all of chapter 9 but at 9-35 my team isn’t working anymore. Been using Lucius and Rowan front, Belinda, Rosaline, Thane in back

arctic sage
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hey guys im stuck on 17-28 so if anyone could give me some advice it would be very appreciated.

frigid dagger
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@edgy surge I remember when I was using Lucius and have enemy Silvina in frontlane if I use dura's call on lucius silvina attacks him and not the mages, try if it work with brutus too, maybe it can help u

regal swallow
edgy surge
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@frigid dagger she went on nemora Who had lowest def

arctic sage
edgy surge
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@frigid dagger its lucius stun that stops Her from jumping

neon swallow
lone maple
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@maiden hamlet i usually use belinda rowan rosalinda brutus lucius

grim birch
void otter
fleet storm
ancient oasis
visual quiver
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@ancient oasis nothing

fleet storm
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@ancient oasis pull one more vedan and use him as fodder for fawkes

ancient oasis
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Ok thanks

pale kettle
grave hollow
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Line uup help

void otter
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15-40. Any suggestions? I get absolutely nuked by this team.

agile locust
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Anyone have any ideas on how I can beat this stage I’ve been stuck for days on days

old ore
agile locust
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@void otter maybe shemira Brutus Lyca tasi and arden

old ore
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Help please, stuck for days

void otter
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@agile locust I have tried that one, enemy Shem silences Shem much more often that way and Shem gets closer to wiping out Niru when Arden was him tied up because she targets it with Soul Siphon.

frigid dagger
mild wing
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@old ore FIrst off, put the saveas behind brutus, his -def debuff will greatly help saveas do more dps

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@frigid dagger Have you tried lyca in front of thane? reset for dodge rng

frigid dagger
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@mild wing I did but when I do that shem can't ult

mild wing
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who dies first

frigid dagger
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Lyca then everyone else when thane ult

glossy furnace
mild wing
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@frigid dagger is that 22-38?

frigid dagger
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Yes

mild wing
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if it is then 1-5 Brutus Lyca Front, Shem Tasi Arden back was what I used to beat it, also wrote hard AF, so might need a lot of tries. BUt ^ that formation has beaten it

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your levels are almost the identical to what mine were, so that formation won but it took me a ton of resets

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or I wouldnt have written hard AF I only do that when it takes a lot of resets to rng right which is roots and dodge in this one

frigid dagger
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Nice, will try that, tyvm

warm ocean
mild wing
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@warm ocean I did.... SHem brutus Tasi nemora lyca 1-5

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If you wanna give it a shot

dim token
warm ocean
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@mild wing what's the win condition then ?

mild wing
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Donno I dont have enemy team in ss I just know it worked

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Oh I can look at yours, holy crap, wtf is wrong with me today 1 sec lemme line up what I saidto it

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you are pretty underleveled too. -40 is a lot. that may be playing a part in why you are having a rough time

warm ocean
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Well I'm legit stuck on everything, I have no way of getting summons to get higher, the only way I can atm is to feed my grezhul and Nara into a L+ fodder so I can make Isabella M+ and get higher that way

mild wing
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I mean like level levels not ascension

indigo jolt
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@mild wing I think thats what she means, is level capped at crystal, till either Shem copies or fodder.

mild wing
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OMG its been awhile I totally didnt even think of that. Your right thats my bad

warm ocean
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I have 4 m+ and 1 M at highest

indigo jolt
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How many more Shems for A?

warm ocean
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1

indigo jolt
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And your lab store resets when? and when will you have the 45k.

warm ocean
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It already did and I'm at 14k

indigo jolt
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SO just waiting for coins then.

warm ocean
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That's what I have been trying right now

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I'm stuck on everything only thing I can do is lab every 2 days, I can technically fodder my Grezhul, and Nara, to make a niru L+ and make Isabella M+ so I can make everyone 200 and that could make a difference

indigo jolt
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If your lyca has enough dodge maybe switch frontline, see if that makes any difference.

arctic sage
indigo jolt
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Id honestly wait for the lab coins, i will probably be in the same situation.

steel moat
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I made it to 19-38 and am getting crushed pretty badly, is this a setup i should run some more or should i change it somehow? Also what artifacts would be good for each hero? Thanks!

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@arctic sage

Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca

warm ocean
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I need at least 8 labs, for 25k not counting the normal coins, so that's at least 15 days of nothing

indigo jolt
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Your choice, i need 84k more coins. And will max out crystal in 2 weeks, assuming i don't get good rng.

pale kettle
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11-28 I've been rocking this comp for ages, don't know what to do

indigo jolt
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@steel moat I ran
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi.

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Although i think your setup can work, but it is a very rng dependent level.

steel moat
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What level and tier is your lyca? Mine can dodge a lot and survive if i'm lucky but most of the time she gets oneshotted 😰

Also what are the advantages to using nemora over arden?

indigo jolt
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A lyca, 4 M gear, 320 ish dodge.
If Nemora charms Arden, then kaz root/ogi rooted i believe. Cant remember how it played out after.

steel moat
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Oh wow, mine has 317 dodge but I don't think enough hp or defense ulricry

I'll try it out, thanks!

visual quiver
indigo jolt
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@visual quiver Need to gear tasi, so that has lower defence than nemora. Try for sav charm.
Tasi
Ezizh
Nemora
Sav
Lyca

steel moat
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@pale kettle try

Rosaline
Saveas/Kelthur
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora

Nemora should charm saveas and take a lot of the damage off of your frontline

pale kettle
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@steel moat didn't work :/ Lucius died way too fast

visual quiver
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@indigo jolt no clue why but nemora always charms the one in the top backline

pale kettle
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Almost worked when I switched lucius to top

steel moat
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From who? Did saveas get charmed?
Also do you happen to have fawkes?

topaz eagle
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Any help 16-40? I’ve re tried like 30 times and closest I got was 3 of them to low health I can’t see to beat it

steel moat
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You could run lucius on top a few times so that he can get his shields off

indigo jolt
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@visual quiver Its just a matter of retrying, charm is random, but will only target within a certain area.

pale kettle
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I got it to work after spamming retry 😌thanks

indigo jolt
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@topaz eagle Who does Fawkes coffin?

visual quiver
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I don't believe that the charm is random. after 30 retries she only charms 2 out of 5 enemies and she is in the middle backline

topaz eagle
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His coffin doesn’t seem to work I think he tries to coffin kaz and either something interrupts it or she can dodge it?

steel moat
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Charm does have a range, but nemora should be able to charm the enemy middle back if she is middle back

topaz eagle
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I’ve been using him as a better dodge tank opposed to lyca atm

visual quiver
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she literally only charms top backline or silvina who jumps behind tasi. only those two. always

indigo jolt
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Coffin can be dodged, i'd drop tasi and fawkes for lyca and nemora/arden. Put nemra/arden bottom to cc bottom half.

visual quiver
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if it was dodged nobody would be charmed

topaz eagle
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Arden dies unless he’s top and Shem does to fast if she’s not top, my nem is only elite +

indigo jolt
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ok, do nem top then and switch nara to bot.

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@visual quiver It can charm that position.

topaz eagle
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Doesn’t work, I don’t get why I can’t beat this lvl looking at other people’s hero’s and lineups I should be at chapter 18 or something

visual quiver
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yes, that's why I said I don't think it's random. out of 5 positions it only charms 2. always the same 2

indigo jolt
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@visual quiver It should charm either the 2 frontlines or directly opposite from the middle back. It is random which of those it is.

topaz eagle
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I’ve tried every different combo and location lol guess I’m under levelled even though I shouldn’t be?

visual quiver
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it didn't charm the frontline once

steel moat
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@topaz eagle that stage is honestly way too dependent on rng so even if you have a strong team it will likely be a massive struggle to beat cryingmirael

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@visual quiver is nemora turning around before she charms? Sometimes they use their skills in the wrong direction ArdenS

dim token
steel moat
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@dim token

Nemora
Shemira/Brutus
Lyca
Shemira/Brutus
Tasi

It's a really disgusting stage so you might have to try a lot of times cryingmirael but you have a good shemira so it should work

pale kettle
steel moat
pale kettle
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🤔

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What was the lineup order

visual quiver
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the order is from 1 to 5

steel moat
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Arden
Shemira
Athalia
Lyca
Tasi

Silvina needs to go for tasi so she can teleport away

pale kettle
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Lmao i'm gonna have to reset my tasi to lower her level

indigo jolt
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@steel moat Did i help you with that 1?

@pale kettle Just drop gear.

pale kettle
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I took off all her gear and put it on Arden and Silv still goes for Arden

indigo jolt
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Run Nemora in for Arden, see how it goes.

drowsy kite
indigo jolt
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@drowsy kite Arden once he hits 81, has 2 roots. At 141 has 3 roots.

steel moat
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I searched 19-36 and used your formation 😅 so yes

marsh oxide
drowsy kite
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@indigo jolt can I use him even he still rare

indigo jolt
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@drowsy kite Yes, i would ascend him though. But isn't that great as a support till 81 as i said.

drowsy kite
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yeah I am almost 81 on my 5 heroes

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who’s better ira or slivina ? slivina looks interesting I like her kits

marsh oxide
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@drowsy kite depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Silvina is good for getting rid of pesky mages. Ira is decent for dps across the board. Niether are really that great imo. But if I had to pick, silvina all day long

indigo jolt
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@marsh oxide I guess try
Eironn
Brutus
Nemora
Lucius
Baden

marsh oxide
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I'll try it. My pulls have been so bad. All greens lately so I've just been praying rng helps me out but no luck

drowsy kite
smoky schooner
indigo jolt
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@drowsy kite Drop Shem for Brutus, have Lucius and Brutus frontline.

smoky schooner
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Drop line up pls thx

obsidian bridge
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Hey everyone, anyone have any ideas for stage 60 of the lightbringer tower? Looks like this and is just a mess for me

drowsy kite
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@indigo jolt Lucius always dies before casting his shield

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Oh no 4 Brutus 😦

indigo jolt
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Even when you put him top?

drowsy kite
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top left? I will try

obsidian bridge
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No, he wants him too frontline

nimble sentinel
fierce kayak
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@obsidian bridge your thane and team power should be good enough to deals this stage.

Maybe change a bit a keep trying. Like Belinda over Rowan, etc.

steel moat
indigo jolt
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@obsidian bridge Drop rosaline for Belinda. As soon as Belinda ults and you get immunes manual fawkes ult.

fierce kayak
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@smoky schooner you can refer pinned message for game tips top right in #classic-questions.

Lineup changes according to stage. For now maybe
Sav
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Roslaine

zinc wren
onyx blaze
sudden sparrow
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@onyx blaze I don't remember the exact team comp I used for that stage but try this one:
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi

onyx blaze
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@sudden sparrow its imposible for me atm all just get 1 shoted after brutus, shemira dont even get her ulti off. Think i have to lvl my chars upp a little before clearing thx for the tip tho 🙃

sudden sparrow
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Use call on Tasi maybe, I did it with crystal 170+

onyx blaze
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To hard rn i will lvl up lyca a little more then try with same comp

sudden sparrow
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GL

bright geyser
onyx blaze
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I appreciate the tips @sudden sparrow

lusty meadow
forest hedge
slow kiln
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Should I reset Brutus and saveas to give the five I’ve been using ( hendrik, Lucius, Belinda, Rowan, and thane) some more exp?

drifting karma
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@slow kiln brutus,arden,belinda,and shem back to 120 and take saveas to 160. Once you can make shem 161 break saveas down and level shem

fierce kayak
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@lusty meadow nice. You have 161+ Shem. Get full M gears for her.

Get Arden to 141 once you have dust.

Try
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Arden/nemora

sterile aurora
lusty meadow
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Aye I will be doing, anyways to get mythic gear? Doesn't it only drop after a certain chapter? 16 or something? @fierce kayak

pearl oyster
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@indigo jolt i just wanted to say that im in chapter 20 because of u so thanks :)

clear saddle
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@sterile aurora Arden is always a solid choice

fierce kayak
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@lusty meadow can buy from guild shop after chap 12 something I think.

The backline Wilders you just play around. Tasi bait either behind Brutus or Shem.

Try to kill Vedan first.

Tasi Shem combo is everyone can dies except both of them. It's better for Shem to ulti first.. then Tasi sleep. Rather than both cast together.

nimble sentinel
lusty meadow
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@fierce kayak Done it, thank you <3

fierce kayak
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@nimble sentinel focus on kill Vedan first. Fire power on him

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@lusty meadow past the stage?

lusty meadow
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Aye

fierce kayak
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@lusty meadow o nice.

nimble sentinel
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I seem to burn him easy enough with belinda/saveas but niro just takes off and deletes my brutus after that

pearl oyster
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@nimble sentinel u need more damage dealers that can tank like shemira

nimble sentinel
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Shemira is going to jump to mythic tomorrow, after I complete the labyrinth. I've sought of been relying on belinda/saveas and hoping that's enough

lusty meadow
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@fierce kayak Onto the last stage of the chapter now, anymore wisdom?

fierce kayak
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@lusty meadow nemora top.

Lyca and Arden you can switch around too and see what works better.

tardy river
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Just need to level up ? :(

sterile aurora
sudden sparrow
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@sterile aurora If you don't need a tank like Grezhul, then do this to get a L+ GB Fodder: Ascend Vedan to L using Silvina and Niru and then ascend him to L+ using that E+ Vedan

sterile aurora
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@sudden sparrow ok thanks for the advise

lusty meadow
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Not having much luck with that @fierce kayak :/

tardy river
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@sterile aurora wait for using them to get shemira L as well

lusty meadow
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@fierce kayak Did after 27 tries haha

bright geyser
fierce kayak
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@lusty meadow gratz buddy. It's good that you make effort to retry.

Higher chap it goes.. more retries we need. Glad you didn't give up.

elfin scroll
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@fierce kayak any advice?

novel tusk
pale kettle
orchid yew
frigid dagger
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@novel tusk Top down shemira brutus top down arden lyca nemora, my brutus was a mercenary lvl 210

opal yoke
elfin scroll
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@opal yoke whatd you use for 16-36

last granite
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@opal yoke no faction bonus but might work

Arden
Shemira
Rosaline/lyca
Brutus
Athalia

clear saddle
fierce kayak
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@elfin scroll if no tasi, will need a L+ Arden.

You have so many Ls.. @_@

Shem to 200 before leveling others.

Arden (silv bait)
Shemira
Lyca
Estrilda/Brutus
Nemora

Try to play around with these 5 heroes. Nemora is better silv bait if no tasi.. but your Arden only E+.. so..

sleek portal
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@clear saddle what stage is that 🤔

clear saddle
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20-36 @sleek portal

sleek portal
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@clear saddle i put lyca middle back and arden to root their arden and nemora charms nemora/kaz and shem does the rest, i will try use dura's call between shem/nemora

clear saddle
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@sleek portal don’t think my M boots are enough yet tbh, Arden only R+ so his casting speed isn’t great

sleek portal
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@clear saddle that could be it i was using L+ arden till 20-40 then i swapped it down to arden E+ to complete chapter20, without M boots on him too i think, good luck 💪

blazing flame
bright geyser
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Nemora middle needs to charm Fer and I'd try swapping out Tasi for Arden if Tasi doesn't do much

clear saddle
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@sleek portal k I’ll try later, thanks for your help

frigid dagger
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@clear saddle top down shemira brutus top down nemora lyca arden, maybe will take some attempts but it gonna work finally

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Well just see that is what @sleek portal said

clear saddle
burnt zealot
sleek portal
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i think Dura's Call is a very important piece to help you finish chapter 20 within an hour. thats what i did yesterday with shemira 220 and the rest at 180-200 and arden 160 E+. its a matter of who you put Dura's Call on(shemira/tasi and occasionally nemora). but yeah good luck to all chapter 20-ers

foggy crane
clear saddle
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Hmm I get massacred lol. I’ll keep trying tho. Thanks for the advice @sleek portal @frigid dagger

blazing flame
sleek portal
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@clear saddle maybe try swapping nemora and arden to see if nemora manages to charm their arden to root their own team before you do i dont know. good luck man

clear saddle
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Nvm I got close lol

idle girder
frigid dagger
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@foggy crane floor?

foggy crane
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@frigid dagger 239

frigid dagger
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@idle girder hey, can u tell me what did u use for 22-42?

timid linden
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I would prob move shemira so that skreg doesnt interrupt at start. Also how about changing tasi Arden position so that Arden roots fawkes to delay shemira beings taken out of the fight. Perhaps change shemira and Lyca position. @idle girder

frigid dagger
idle girder
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Shemira can dodge the the coffin spell

mild wing
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@idle girder I bet 22-44 with Brutus Lucius Tasi Lyca Shem when I bet it

foggy crane
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@frigid dagger Ahh no tasi here

mild wing
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in that order 1-5

idle girder
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If I swap lyca with Shem she gets owned by Athalia .@mild wing legendary Lucius enough ?

frigid dagger
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@foggy crane try that but athalia instead tasi, tasi is almost useless against ulmus warek

mild wing
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Could sub your thoran for lucius @idle girder

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its a hard level it takes a lot of tries and resets especially since you are outleveled by a lot @idle girder

idle girder
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Will try mate thx

foggy crane
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@frigid dagger nope still get destroyed lol ty though

plucky flint
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Any ideas here? I thought 20-20 was supposed to be the big wall but 20-21 shutting me down hard

frigid dagger
foggy crane
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@frigid dagger I'm about 8k from making somebody 240 anyways

mild wing
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@plucky flint 20-21 1-5 I did brutus shem tasi nemora lyca

plucky flint
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@mild wing thx I’ll try it

mild wing
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So pretty much what you got with 1 change, thats the one that I beat it with

dark tundra
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What the stage flr?

mild wing
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@dark tundra hm?

dark tundra
frigid dagger
dark tundra
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Rowan, rosa and estrilda rampaging on tower btw guys. Dun forget them

mild wing
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@frigid dagger I did 1-5 brutus lyca shem tasi nemora wrote hard af need call on tasi to ult before dead

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so pretty similar to yours

frigid dagger
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Ty again

ember oak
fierce kayak
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@ember oak try not to even level. Once carry hit max. Level tanks next, last are supports. Top 5 seems good.

mild wing
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Id be running the same team as youre using now with what you got

ember oak
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Yeah saveas got max now Lucius is soon max

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Really hoping to get L+ hogan soon, only need 2 more elites.

fierce kayak
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@ember oak you can always focus on Rare heroes too. They are actually quite good early game which a lot of people just ignore them.

They can go l+ easily too and can be feed away later.

ember oak
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Like which heroes?

mild wing
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L+ hogan will be wayyyyy better than e lucius

ember oak
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Yeah. Gonna buy advancement rewards today maybe I’ll get enough lightbearers

mild wing
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if you are buying anything, thats the best value deal in the game

clear saddle
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@mild wing did you buy that 😄

mild wing
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Sure did, lotta people did

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dont HAVE to, but if ur gonna get anything that ones good

clear saddle
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thats if you're gonna stick with the game till ch19

ember oak
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Why shouldn’t I stick to it?

clear saddle
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Nah like, if you buy the pack, but dont finish it, you're kinda wasting money lol. ch19 is the last reward

mild wing
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@clear saddle I never suggest buying anything but he already said he was so I was just saying it was good

clear saddle
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yeah, i was just telling him just in case or something lmao

stuck nexus
clear saddle
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oof thane carry, havent seen those for a while

mild wing
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Swap thoran for ogi, he is better and will give you the 3/2 hero bonus as well

stuck nexus
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sure lemme try

manic steeple
idle girder
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@mild wing did a few tries like this and I actually managed to kill 3 so far

mild wing
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@idle girder You on the right track then

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@idle girder you can try swapping lyca and thoran, and have lyca go for dodges on athalia

idle girder
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She never dodged once so far

mild wing
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yeah keep trying how it is, honestly if you killiung 3 you can win with rng

idle girder
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Yep

mild wing
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Some fights take a lot of resets, the really hard ones. Just beat 325 tower and no lie it took me like 500 tries lol

idle girder
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Yeah I know had some tough stages before but trying and trying again is what has me rank 25 on my server with my hero levels 😃 and if I beat this I’ll be rank 20

mild wing
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ah nice

fierce kayak
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@manic steeple try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi

mild wing
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@fierce kayak I miss one? oops

fierce kayak
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@mild wing lol.. it's fine. You help a lot already 🙂

manic steeple
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No luck

fierce kayak
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@manic steeple may wanna try more times? Also Shem 200 before leveling others.

Else maybe

Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira

mild wing
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Try everything absolute bare minimum 10 times

fierce kayak
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@manic steeple else post again and see if others have better advise

manic steeple
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Gotta get everyone to 160 before leveling shemira more

raw trail
fierce kayak
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@manic steeple ops.. I missed that. Sorry

raw trail
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Maybe not for al that but just a general team?

manic steeple
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Your good thanks for the help

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@fierce kayak the brutus comp worked after some times

fierce kayak
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@manic steeple Great. Gratz

grave hollow
fierce kayak
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@manic steeple get a feel against these kinda full Wilders. Will have plenty more later. Shem always avoid ogi and I prefer use lyca against ogi to buy time and nemora to charm either ogi or hero behind him. Arden middle back to buy time too.

My first suggestion with 4 Wilders works too.. but also need RNG. You can try both of them next time again.

grave hollow
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Help

molten lance
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no

grave hollow
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Cool

fierce kayak
grave hollow
pale kettle
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I feel like i should take Brutus out of The Resonating Crystal reset Numisu and then use what i gain on Brutus Then move Saveas to the back line and Brutus on front, because Saveas probably could do better back there, since he alwayss dies in the start. Should i?

urban egret
pale kettle
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Im no expert

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What bout lyca shem and belinda in the back then that resonated bear thing and lucius front

urban egret
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i’ll try it

idle girder
mild wing
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grats

urban egret
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didn’t work bruh someone pls help

fierce kayak
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@urban egret Arden to L+ is good. Try Wilders back. Tasi behind shem, amd lyca is good cos she cam dodge Axe. Shem and another tank.

Key is nemora middle back to charm fareal. Reset if charm fails

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@pale kettle it's easier if you post full roster

pale kettle
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@fierce kayak k 1 min

urban egret
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it worked ty !

pale kettle
fierce kayak
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@pale kettle sav to 120. Then level hogan next, you can build him to L+ Belinda E+ top 5 once top 5 hit max. Last slot depends who you got to E+ first.

Sav (120)
Brutus/Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Rosaline

Build Arden to 141 L+ too

pale kettle
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Can u dm me it please?

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@fierce kayak

urban egret
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15-40

frigid dagger
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Who tasi banish? If she banish ferael u should use arden instead her and put nemora backlane mid

urban egret
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i put nemora back line mid and switched tasi for arden cuz she bans fareal

frigid dagger
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Swap shemira with brutus too

tame vigil
glossy furnace
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What to upgrade?

mild fractal
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Ferael

frigid dagger
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@urban egret call on shem btw

mild fractal
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@tame vigil Do you still loose if you swap Belinda and Tasi around?

pale kettle
honest storm
wicked pelican
humble pine
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@honest storm just level up and you'll beat it eventually 🙂

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@wicked pelican Arden should be in the middle

wicked pelican
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@humble pine he always dies before he roots anyone

tame vigil
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@mild fractal yea, I can’t kill the golus fast enough

humble pine
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@wicked pelican anyway Lyca should not be in the middle 🙂 at least in my team her primary use is haste in the the beginning and that's all

robust sky
#

Hi I'm in 11-24 looking for tips

glossy furnace
mild fractal
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@glossy furnace level Ferael

glossy furnace
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Okay thanks

wicked pelican
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if arden roots khasos, vurk, and brutus and nemora charms saveas then shemira has enough time use her ult and get some hp back 🤔 arden in the middle dies too quickly and when he's at the bottom then shem is attacked by vurk and looses too much hp @humble pine

humble pine
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@wicked pelican Have you tried
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Arden

just for the lulz 🙂 but It may get you enought time for shemira to cast ult and kill someone with it and cast it again, etc.

Just as I told you Lyca is primary used for Haste at the begining

shut parrot
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One more belinda and i would have acs

humble pine
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@shut parrot It's really up to you 🙂 If Belinda is your main damage dealer and you lack a bit of damage to get further, then I guess Belinda, if your frontline collapses too soon for you to deal enough demeage, then Estrilda 🙂

P.S. next time just filter by the faction that you want to ascend heroes for easier understanding 🙂

shut parrot
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Right now im stuck on 15-40 because the dps graves annihilate my frontline but since estri is primary support she has always fallen first in 80% of fights even on easier bosses. Its just her thing.

humble pine
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@shut parrot well graveborns have faction advantage over lightbearers 😦 But anyway, it's really up to you to decide whom to ascend 🙂 Maybe it's better to go for Estilda as you will have only one hero left to ascend to M for level cap to be 180. I'm not focused on lightbearers, so I may be wrong.

shut parrot
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@humble pine i know, so even my lucius quickly gives away but he’s behind in asc. The level cap is indeed tempting but if i can leg+ shem or thoran it would be an easy mythic nd just fodder vedan then work my way up to mythic lyra.

humble pine
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@shut parrot then I would go for Estrilda just for the level cap. I'm myself stuck at 160 as I'm missing fodder for any of my wilders to M (have 3 at L+ and don't want to sacrifice Arden). IMHO, Belinda and Mythic and Mithic+ doesn't make a lot of difference

shut parrot
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I Borrowed a better luci and mythic plussed beli and beat chapter 15. Yay. Estri will be next unless i get my luci to leg plus.

humble pine
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@shut parrot gratz :)) now get your Belinda to level 200 :))

wicked pelican
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@humble pine i tried it a few times but arden gets oneshotted everytime 😔

shut parrot
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Thanks for feedback. @humble pine

humble pine
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@wicked pelican If Arden cannot get his roots out in any positioin, you put him in, you Athalia instead
@shut parrot you're always welcome 🙂

inner sparrow
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Extremely stuck could anyone please give me advice! I already know I’m under level but I need help on where I should place my heroes

wicked pelican
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@humble pine he roots only if he is behind shemira
that's hard 😩

oak lance
humble pine
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@wicked pelican our guru @fierce kayak is typing something, hopefully he'll help you 😄

fierce kayak
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@inner sparrow keep leveling Sav.

Meanwhile try
Sav
Golus
Arden
Lucius
Safiya

Or

Sav
Golus
Roslaine/arden
Lucius
Belinda

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@humble pine lol... no no. Have to try and error too...

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Won't always work

humble pine
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@fierce kayak well you're community supporter, it's your job to help community members, right? 😉 😉

sly sparrow
fierce kayak
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@wicked pelican anything I can help?

@sly sparrow my dear friend.. let me see.. Try swap nemora with lyca? Can nemora charm Bell and lyca dodge Axe?

sly sparrow
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damn everyone dies so fast...

inner sparrow
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@fierce kayak sav keeps getting killed easily by the other sav

grizzled galleon
gusty wave
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Just got the celestial twins. My lineup is still a mess and want a good comp somehow. Current lineup: Rowan, Shemira, Tasi, Saveas, Hogan. Any tips appreciated❣️

humble pine
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@sly sparrow I would place Arden in the middle, Nemore at the bottom and Lyce at the top

sly sparrow
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its not any better... everyone just dies

humble pine
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@sly sparrow then just keep leveling up as gap in power is quite big. OR get some mercenaries to do the job for you

sly sparrow
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i cant lvl them up, theyre too low ascension and i dont have fodder or copies D:

humble pine
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@gusty wave always concentrate on Saveas in the begining. He's your main carry early game, but please do not fee him any ascended heroes

@sly sparrow then you're stuck for a bit 🙂

sly sparrow
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ugh again... i was stuck just few days ago i hate this

vast kraken
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How long do I put all my eggs in the Saveas basket? I read he falls off somewhere along the line.

gusty wave
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@humble pine i know that about Saveas but the whole lineup seems off point around him

fierce kayak
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@inner sparrow maybe try to afk for more levels then

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@sly sparrow your team power seems quite low I think. For your progression now.. should not be a difference of nearly 50% power difference I think

vernal berry
humble pine
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@sly sparrow 😄 it's ok, on 16+ stages you can be stuck on the same level for week or so :)

@vast kraken he's great until level 141 and L+ I think, then he starts to fall off a bit and completely falls off at level 160. Basically, if you're going for a meta team, after level 140 (of was it 160) you swap your main carry to Shemira.

@clear tinsel you're really in early-early game so just enjoy it while you still can 😄 Your carry for now is Saveas so put your resources and overlevel him :))

wicked pelican
vast kraken
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@humble pine Oh then I have a long way to go still, I just started out two days ago, got a bit lucky with my pulls and am currently rocking this. So I'll just keep maintaining Saveas while getting the rest of the team to 61+ and swap Tasi for Nemora once I get the chance to buy her from the Lab?

vernal berry
fierce kayak
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@wicked pelican Arden not L+ is an issue.

Tasi banish Kho? Then Vurk arrow targets certain hero depending how you position them. These 2 can hurt your backline. Lyca can doge kho axe.

Try Tasi behind shem?

Else try Athalia.. she can be a wild card.

humble pine
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@vast kraken There are two paths that you can go for 😄 The easy and the hard one :D

  1. Easy one - go for Meta team, which is Shemira, Tasi, Arden, Nemora nad Lyca (or something like that)
    • build the heroes that you enjoy ;)

The best course (the most alligned with meta) of action for you is to get Saveas to 141 and Legendary+ (probably get him to 160 just for max level of other heroes, as you can always reset him later on). From the lab I would go for Shemira as she will be your main carry after level 160, so it's best to have her at mithic at that point (you need 6 copies for it if I'm not wrong). Everything else really depends on the heroes that you'll be getting from pulls. But as you can see all meta heroes are wilders, so it's probably a good idea to go for wilders in faction pulls

@fierce kayak please correct me if I'm saying some bullsh**

vast kraken
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@humble pine So you would even go for Shemira instead of Nemora for my first Lab purchase(s)? I figured going for Nemora first while I still have Saveas rocking the DPS front seemed more optimal.

vernal berry
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No, go for shemira.

humble pine
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@vast kraken I would go all the way for Shemira, you will need her to be Mythic or Mythic+ for easier progression later on 🙂 Nemora is good healer, which you will need later on. Early game is just about who deals more damage, which is Saveas until 160 and Shemira after 160

Also if you're going to Wilders for faction pulls you will get a chance to get you Nemoras 😄

vernal berry
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And tasis

ornate totem
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@humble pine can you go betwen meta and heroes you enjoy (i have no lyca) and i not like wilders!!

crude hinge
humble pine
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@ornate totem, meta is just a pointer to what is the best team for faster progression 🙂 on one of my accounts I have something similar to meta team as I was lucky with my pulls. On the other one I don't have meta team (shemira + LB), progression on the other one is slower, but not that much (was stuck on 16-40 for a long time, but them got it done and breezed past chapter 17 in like 1 hour)

Each person's situation is different as it depends on your pulls. Maybe you're getting full maulers team from your pulls, so it doesn;t make sense to go for wilders.

But small spaoiler, later on you will unlock faction towers, where you will need all factions anyway 😄

ornate totem
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@humble pine ok so i am ok then (LB+shem+brutus)

oak lance
humble pine
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@ornate totem just do what you like and enjoy, otherwise what is the point of playing a game, which is created for fun (except the financial aspect for devs) 😄

ornate totem
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@humble pine oklight

lucid cliff
sand kindle
#

Hard q. I like Fawkes, but Rosa is good too. fawkes mostly for pvp, barely use him in campaign. Rosa is more universal hero

fierce kayak
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@humble pine mostly correct I think.. haha.. para too long.

Meta team helps f2p too.

Shem to M need a 4 copies of her

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@lucid cliff why not save LightB fodders to focus one of 2 heroes of same faction? To build them from M to A for top 5?

lucid cliff
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K I’ll see what I get for my next summon. Thx

nimble briar
sand kindle
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@nimble briar reset shem to 121 and make your arden 141

nimble briar
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I dont have enough dust to make Arden 141 mate

wicked pelican
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@fierce kayak tasi gets oneshot unless there is arden baaaaa i guess i'll just keep trying with that team i sent here, i'm getting destroyed with anything that doesn't include arden tbh

sand kindle
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@nimble briar then boost your saveas to 160 or close to it. And equip the best gears

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@nimble briar and go saveas lucius arden nemora tasi

nimble briar
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@sand kindle Arden and Nemora gets rekt at pull. I got Saveas to 153. Not working

ember bane
nimble briar
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@sand kindle nvm dawg it worked now, thanks! 🔥

elder needle
clear saddle
sand kindle
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@pale kettle from 1 to 5: brutus lyca shemira Arden nemora

pale kettle
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Ill give it a trt

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@sand kindle that was so ez, lol

sand kindle
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@pale kettle It is)

pale kettle
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Do you think i can do chapter 19 with those heroed @OTKPOBEHUE

sand kindle
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@pale kettle shem 200 = 20-12
220 = 21-10

pale kettle
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Nice, thx

pale kettle
lofty depot
regal swallow
humble pine
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@regal swallow try arden instead of backpack guy

regal swallow
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Not working 😦

ember oak
regal swallow
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I killed vedan once but then Isabella killed the rest of my team

visual quiver
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@regal swallow you have a sav. change belinda with sav and leve sav to 140. should kill vedan very fast and is a better carry imo

limpid quail
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@ember oak saveas back mid so he can attack vedan when he moves forward

radiant hull
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@ember oak Involuntarily you helped me a great deal, thanks for that lol. I'm a few stages behind you with quite the similar lineup

regal swallow
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@visual quiver seems to be worse than before elethathink

ember oak
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@radiant hull yeah I like the 3 wilders setup, also making hogan L+ soon and gonna use him instead of lucius
I'd use arden instead of nemora in this one, simply to heal so the enemy on top right won't early grave them to get more hp

radiant hull
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Yea I could do that with my Hogan too and I guess I have to since Lucius isn't even going Elite+ any time soon

last olive
ember oak
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Yeah same deal hear, lucius just hit 100 and now can't go any better, while I plan to make hogan L+ soon

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@limpid quail each lineup I use the silvina kills my both arden and lucius at the start that leave me only with saveas and tasi. Also lyca dies fast

limpid quail
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@ember oak change your equip so tasi has lower def than arden so silvana will jump on her and she can blink away

ember oak
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good idea.

limpid quail
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@radiant hull you need saveas in your backline so he can kill the vedan or niru, killing at least one of them fast is your key to success

dry smelt
radiant hull
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I've had the same thought, but I wouldn't know what else to put frontline that could survive @limpid quail

limpid quail
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maybe hogan @radiant hull or lyca on bot side, she has advantage against graveborn and pretty good dodge stats

pale kettle
sand kindle
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@pale kettle lyca <->tasi, Tasi->arden

radiant hull
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@limpid quail Appreciate the ideas. Neither worked unfortunately, Hogan is actually the quickest to die out of all of them...I hate him. I hope he's more useful on L+. I guess I'll wait for some hero exp.

limpid quail
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@radiant hull you can hire a mercenary tank like brutus, maybe he will stay alive long enough for saveas to kill them all

pale kettle
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@sand kindle seems like it wont work, issabela just owns

sand kindle
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@pale kettle if you charm ferael it will work) Just roll few times

woeful fjord
#

Guys, that’s just hell - i‘m dead in seconds. And my comp is shit...but I can’t get Lucius and other cool champs 😂😂

pale kettle
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@sand kindle ill spam it a bit

sand kindle
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@woeful fjord arden -> lvl 141 instead Hogan. And use this lineup:

Eironn
Lyca
Arden
Hogan
Saveas or shemira

try it out and tell me how it goeas

astral marsh
vast kraken
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I am slowly getting over the 61+ hump and am looking for a secondary tank next to Lucius. Would I go for Elite Hogan or Elite Golus? My current backline is Saveas, Belinda & Tasi

astral marsh
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If you have lucius belinda. You should go for Hogan to have synergy lightB :) 3-1-1

sand kindle
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@astral marsh lvl 200 shem is possible to beat chap 19 and get to 20-12

fossil venture
#

What happens to mythic items if they are +5 enchanted and u upgrade it to mythic+, do they still have thr enchanted +5 on it?

astral marsh
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@sand kindle yes but crystal 171 is not enough ? Is it ?
Against this mauler team. Should i forget wilder's CC for LightB ?

fierce kayak
onyx hinge
sand kindle
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@fossil venture yea

fossil venture
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Ty!

uncut sapphire
dusty cove
astral marsh
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@sand kindle i Will try. I tell you the result. But i think it Will be an other OS xD But i think i need a good rng CC i'll try couple of time

indigo jolt
sand kindle
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@astral marsh yea meta + RNG = win. I beat this chap in 1 hour on my alt. Got shem full M gear & 180 Brut & 4 wilds

uncut sapphire
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@indigo jolt Hi ! Do you have a screenshot for 16-4 please ?

indigo jolt
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Dont think so, i can probably tell you what i ran though.

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@uncut sapphire Try switching Lyca and Shem's positions. WHo does tasi banish?

uncut sapphire
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Thanks. I tried that but my Lyca dies too early :/
I guess I’m a bit underleveled still. I’m just eager to get to 16-12 for the mythic drops 😅

indigo jolt
vestal island
uncut sapphire
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Oh thank you ! I’ll keep trying it and hope for good rng then 😃

honest storm
indigo jolt
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I think at that point my Lyca had better gear than Shem.

wise stream
uncut sapphire
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@indigo jolt Oh that may be it. My Lyca dies too early unfortunately. My Shem is now full Mythic but doesn’t have faction bonus. Do you recommand I buy gear for Lyca or Brutus or keep buying for Shem to get faction bonus ? I’ve had conflicting advice at this point

indigo jolt
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@vestal island Not really, id drop all the LB's as you have faction disadvantage.
Run Sav khasos, lyca arden eironn.

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@uncut sapphire While it would be nice to get faction gear its not a necessity, personally i feel you're better getting some for Lyca, and maybe second/third set of boots to put on other mages.

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Also, you have to think about what gear you get free from faction towers when you complete 40, 60 etc in the future.

uncut sapphire
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Ok thanks. The priority for agility heroes is Boots > Hat > Weapon > Armor like mage ?

indigo jolt
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For lyca, whichever has the most dodge can't remember of the top of my head.

uncut sapphire
#

I’m not beating faction towers anytime soon :/

indigo jolt
#

40 should be easy enough.

uncut sapphire
#

I can’t even beat the 20 LB lol

indigo jolt
#

@wise stream Try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden

uncut sapphire
#

Thanks for all your advice anyway ! 😃

astral marsh
#

@sand kindle ok rng win xD thanks !

sand kindle
#

@astral marsh 👍 💪

scenic yew
wise stream
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@indigo jolt let me try that one quickly altho i dont think it will work as my brutus is only elite and in crystal only 122

sand kindle
#

@scenic yew try:

Nemora
Lyca
Athalia
Brut
Saveas

indigo jolt
#

If your lucius survives longer than Brutus, then simply switch it around.

wise stream
#

Brb, gonna tru

vast bane
sand kindle
#

@scenic yew if it wont help - just level up a lill or make saveas L or L+

scenic yew
#

yeah I’m just not even close to making him L+, guess I’m stuck for a bit until I get more fodder

wise stream
#

Not working @indigo jolt . With lucius he dies before shield goes up, if i switch lucius and shem shem dies too quickly. With brutus...well he dies in 3 hits :p

sand kindle
#

@scenic yew yea its pretty ok to stay on stage 1-3 days

indigo jolt
#

@wise stream Probably have to level up a bit, only other option i see is trying to charm Sav, but from the sounds of it your frontline will still fall too soon.

wise stream
#

Yeah lucius can get his shield of once sometimes but then dies instantly, then they swoop up the backline and then i got 4 guys left stomping on shemira

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Guess i need to get them to 140 so shem can go 161. Or would saveas be an option? Getting him to 160 instead of shemira

median crag
fierce kayak
#

@vast bane seems like a tough match for u. You don't have tank too.

Consider build legendary hero as tank like ogi golus Hogan.

Do read up pinned messages here and in #classic-questions for some game tips

sand kindle
#

Any Ideas? They own me pretty fast🤔 also belinda is always banished

vast bane
#

@fierce kayak alright, thanks for help

indigo jolt
#

Coffin Baden? How does Rosaline interact opposite NAra.

sand kindle
#

@indigo jolt coffin 1 tasi. rasa dodges, but Nara pulls Belinda and kick her ass

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I guess need to pull rowan to beat this

indigo jolt
#

No idea.
Rosa
Lucius
Belinda
Fawkes
Estrilda

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Flipped depending on which tasi is coffined*

sand kindle
#

Always Belinda) Anyway I think need Rowan to go, he can stul them with ult

indigo jolt
#

Lb your weakest faction?

sand kindle
#

yea;(

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I never loved them, and now they're getting back at me.

sharp harbor
#

What direction should I be heading in? Should I add Brutus to my team full time?

sand kindle
#

@sharp harbor Brutus - yea make him L+, you have fodder. As for team - go meta if you want fast progression

sharp harbor
#

I’ll cart hogan and try to make him 121

indigo jolt
#

I would cart Lucius or Lyca , youre unlikely to get more copies. WHereas hogan is l+ already.

sharp harbor
#

I do only need 1 more copy of him

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But I’ll cart him until then

indigo jolt
#

1 copy can take forever trust me. Pulled 7/8 Belindas in first month playing, still waiting on the last one for A.

sharp harbor
#

Should I feed hogan into him when the time is right then?

sand kindle
#

@sharp harbor Go Brutus Saveas Arden Lyca Nemora

indigo jolt
#

Not till you need to break 160 level cap probably.
And above but run Tasi intercharged with Nemora.

sand kindle
#

@sharp harbor and keep shemira in mind. You need her M as fast as you can

sharp harbor
#

Yeah I’m gunning for more copies when lab resets

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I have more than enough fodder for her when I get the copies

worthy island
#

Help with 15-40? :(
!stage 15-40

sharp harbor
clear saddle
#

@worthy island important thing is nemora middle to charm ferael

fierce kayak
#

@worthy island Hi Buddy, you will always need to show the stage of enemy as well.

Anyway I believe it's full GB?

Use nemora middle back to charm fareal. Reset if charm fails. Drop tasi if tasi banish Fareal.

clear saddle
#

@fierce kayak im almost done with ch20 😏

worthy island
fierce kayak
#

@clear saddle nice man. Gratz.

What's the overall crystal? Shem 220 crystal 180? You Shem still M+?

clear saddle
#

@fierce kayak lol no way i can make it that far with only M+ shem. i think highest is maybe 20-24 with M+ but that needs 200 crystal. I have 220 shem crystal 180. but im still only 20-45 xd

fierce kayak
#

@sharp harbor^

sleek portal
#

bruh, you should be able to finish ch20 now. go go go! its all about dura's call swap

clear saddle
#

lol someone wont be happy if i leave her behind

fierce kayak
#

@clear saddle 👌 g luck buddy

worthy island
sand kindle
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@clear saddle yea you can rush to 21-10 haha gogo

sleek portal
#

im confused @worthy island are you saying you cant kill the level with that lineup?

worthy island
#

Yep,

sleek portal
#

@worthy island nemora MUST charm farael, maybe try swapping arden and lyca's position and see how it goes

tidal field
#

Really need help here... do i roll maulers faction x 10 scroll? or sth else....

clear saddle
#

@tidal field wilders usually better all around

tidal field
#

ohhh okays i will wait till tmr then, thx so much

worthy island
#

Enemies seem too strong even when ferael gets charmed 😦 its over once enemy shemira gets ult off

uneven zodiac
#

Is there any way to make my team better or use other heroes?

fierce kayak
#

@uneven zodiac

  1. learn the game. Faction advantage. Lightb is weak against GB. Also tanks, backline heroes.

  2. you can read pinned message here and #classic-questions, top right corner.

uneven zodiac
#

Kinda confused ngl

dusty cove
astral lark
sand kindle
#

@astral lark Back line: Arden Nemora Lyca. Charm ferael at start.

astral lark
#

Ill give it a shot thanks

edgy surge
mild wing
#

what ch stage @edgy surge

edgy surge
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20 26

mild wing
#

1-5 Brutus shem lyca nemora tasi was what I used to beat it

fierce kayak
#

@astral lark you can scroll up a little to see my ss lineup too. Mine is lyca top Arden bot. You can try and see what works better for you.

As what OTK said.. you can retry if charm fails on fareal at start.

dark tundra
#

Btw tugey how many 240 u have when u beat 22 @mild wing

astral lark
#

Appreciate it guys, just cleared it with the lineup OTK said

edgy surge
#

1-5 as brutus top behind shemira in front?

fierce kayak
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@astral lark gratz

mild wing
#

1-5 is the order they fill the board when you click on them 1-2 is front

fierce kayak
#

@mild wing You kept all the ss of stages?

mild wing
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@fierce kayak I just wrote them down

fierce kayak
#

@mild wing wow nice

edgy surge
#

Silvina should Jump on nemora or tasi? @mild wing

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:(

dusty cove
#

No one knows for mine ? T_T

sand kindle
#

@dusty cove I think you need to lvl up a bit, maybe make your Saveas L or L+

dusty cove
#

welp that's gonna take a while with my luck I guess lol 😂

edgy surge
#

@mild wing any info on what artifact u were running?

fierce kayak
#

@dusty cove you can read the pinned message here for some help too I think

dark tundra
#

@dusty cove that's the first big wall in the game my dude it's the First test for you. Some people give up on that stage. U just need to level up theresnarlaugh

dusty cove
#

That level is actually really the first wall ? darn xD (it's 9-20 tho)

dark tundra
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Everyone knows 9-20 ask them snarlaugh snarlaugh

limpid quail
#

yes it is, next is not far though its on 9-40 😉

dusty cove
#

It's funny how it looks super innocent, but it's actually not xD

sharp harbor
#

I had a lot of trouble on 9-36

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That was my first multiple day wall

dark tundra
#

@dusty cove but read the pinned message on #classic-questions . I guess u need that too u have legendary Hogan eh

sand kindle
#

@edgy surge did you try my lineup?

dusty cove
#

well i've read it multiple times, I recently got enough to make my hogan L+ from advices, but I didn't leveled him right off the bat, is it worth putting him lvl 140, even if he feels kinda "meh" as a character ?

ancient meadow
sharp harbor
#

Also thanks for the suggestion to L+ Brutus, I got to 11-8 thanks to him

sand kindle
#

@ancient meadow in pm

regal swallow
ancient meadow
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@sand kindle thanks for lineup help 22-38

sand kindle
#

@ancient meadow do u pass it?

abstract shuttle
ancient meadow
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@sand kindle Haven't got pass stage

sand kindle
#

@abstract shuttle your formation is good, just double charm ferael for win

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@ancient meadow oh. kk. Hope you will pass it soon)

dry smelt
#

clearing 16-12 starts dropping mythic gear right? 😭

sand kindle
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@dry smelt 16-4 probably or 12🤔

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@dry smelt anyway reload screen and ur roaster

dry smelt
sand kindle
#

@dry smelt on whom jumps silvina

dry smelt
#

tasi

ancient meadow
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@sand kindle thanks, i hope so get pass it soon and i will contiune progress in king's tower 268+ while im stuck on 22-38

sand kindle
#

@dry smelt ok just mirror your team and it should work. Horn for shem

dry smelt
#

horn as in the dura's call?

sand kindle
#

yea, always forgot how it calls

dry smelt
sand kindle
#

yea

dry smelt
#

nope dying even faster, what's the difference in L+ tasi?

sand kindle
#

The idea is to kill silvina using your brutus ult. And if she survives she must use her ult on brut

dry smelt
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but grezhul is making her kinda invulnerable

sand kindle
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its ok. Ur shem should ult pretty fast

dry smelt
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but she cant solo the whole enemy team 😭

crude hinge
sand kindle
#

stage?

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@dry smelt just try, this is a winning lineup haha

brisk tapir
untold maple
edgy surge
#

@sand kindle got no Isabella and only elite fawkes

void otter
wind hamlet
#

Shemira or nemora in labyrinth? And can saveas replace any1 in the team?

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Also have Baden

void otter
#

Shemira always, she’s very important. Saveas makes for a good carry but he’s too weak before elite. Your problem is you have three tanks and not enough DPS right now. Get Shemira and replace Hogan with Shemira. You’ll get a big boost towards mid game if you start working on Shemira and Arden now.

wind hamlet
#

Alright 👍 thanks a ton @void otter

void otter
#

I don’t have the guru level knowledge of some others though so maybe wait and see if someone that’s not stuck on chapter 16 has better advice. Shemira is always a solid bet though.

sand kindle
#

@crude hinge @brisk tapir stages?

wind hamlet
#

And if I manage to get Saveas elite would he fit cuz I've seen he works well with khasos and Brutus but have neither ?

grave hollow
void otter
#

Saveas is a decent carry for mid game but I would personally work on Shemira instead. I did build Saveas and he took me far but if I had been working on Shemira the whole time, I wouldn’t have hit so many walls.

sand kindle
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@grave hollow ferael reset, saveas max lvl

wind hamlet
#

I see 😄

dry smelt
#

thanks @sand kindle ^^ now i'm at 16-16

void otter
#

I’m stuck at 16-16 too.

grave hollow
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@sand kindle I thought feral was op

sand kindle
#

@void otter tasi -> nemora and try:

Lyca
Brut
Nemora
Shemira
Arden

Charm Mirael

dry smelt
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ferael is late game, saveas is early-mid

sand kindle
#

@grave hollow he is, but starting lvl 220+

grave hollow
#

I will try now where abouts should I place

void otter
#

@sand kindle ugh, Mirael killed Nemora in one hit. Let me shuffle some gear around and see.

warm ocean
sand kindle
#

@void otter lol give her a gears ! And try to charm her

limber helm
sand kindle
#

@grave hollow try:

Saveas
Seirus
Lyca
Ogi
Khasos

fierce kayak
#

@warm ocean Tuesday Is a better person to help you my dear 🙂

sand kindle
#

@limber helm yup

limber helm
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Ok thx :)

grave hollow
#

Will try and let you know how it works

sleek portal
#

@warm ocean check out Ayuh Le and Vitaliy Belka on youtube for chapter 20

untold maple
void otter
#

@sand kindle that actually didn’t work but putting Shemira in front gave me the idea to try with Tasi in the middle again and on the third try she silenced Mirael and Tasi put everyone to sleep. Thanks!

dry smelt
#

it worked for me saeren

sand kindle
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@warm ocean i think its pretty hard to pass this stage with lvl 200 . But I d try to hide shem behind brutus

dry smelt
#

wilder is abit too much rng .....

sand kindle
#

@untold maple

try:
Twins
Shem
Lyca
hendric/Ulmus/estrilda
Nemora

untold maple
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will do, thanks 😄

sand kindle
#

@untold maple And please reset 2 E+ tier heroes and level up ur L or L+ heroes, and rest use throug resonatinng crystall

untold maple
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I reset the L/L+ to try Hendric/Estrilda since I don't have any crystal slots atm, 2 are on cooldown

sand kindle
#

So you should lvl up only 5 top tier heroes

void otter
sand kindle
#

@untold maple ah ok

void otter
#

I have never figured out an effective Silvina counter, I just always end up brute force overpowering her. What am I missing?

humble skiff
#

Get her to hit tasi at beginning then tasi blinks away @void otter

dry smelt
#

wow what floor u at now saeren?

sand kindle
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@void otter the idea is to move her away from shem, to put them in different corners, and she must be behind Brutus

void otter
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@humble skiff I do that but then she goes for Lyca and then she has enough energy to ult Shem out.

humble skiff
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@void otter maybe need to just level shem and lyca more then

sand kindle
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Also she should use her ult in Brutus shield

humble skiff
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Also position tasi so when she blinks silv goes for brut

humble zenith
void otter
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@dry smelt I’m on 16-20

I will have Shemira crossing 181 today and I’ll have enough to get one other hero to 161, maybe I’ll wait and see.

Ha, that’s a great idea about Brutus positioning, let me try that.

dry smelt
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lol i'm stucked at 16-19 now

humble turret
#

20:45 someone? Help! I run meta team..

sand kindle
#

Ok I’m tired of this freaking timer.. gonna rest gl guys

void otter
#

Looks like I’ll be stuck on 16-20 for a bit. It’s got almost all of my least favorite enemies in one level - Niru, Vedan, Silvina, and Isabella in one level is brutal.

analog harness
placid flower
#

@void otter been on 16-20 for soon 2 weeks. I got there with shem 180 and the rest 140 😛

analog harness
void otter
#

@placid flower you got there with 140s? Man I’m terrible at this game having mine at 159 😅

grave hollow
placid flower
#

Hehe maybe i had better gear on my dudes. My guys are 152 now and im nowhere close to passing

regal swallow
ember bane
rigid thunder
mellow hound
brisk tapir
olive fossil
mellow hound
#

Can saveas be top front?

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Also is anyone in your Crystal yet?

olive fossil
#

No not yet, I got from 6-28 to 8-32 using these heroes

mellow hound
#

Try:
Ulmus
Saveas
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca

olive fossil
#

Getting wrecked by silv

mellow hound
#

I'd also recommend working on an Arden

olive fossil
#

Who should I replace with Arden? It’s only an elite Arden though

regal swallow
#

Please help

obsidian bridge
#

Hey y’all. I have no idea what to do with this trees. My normal comp isn’t working at all because cc isn’t getting me anywhere.

lone maple
#

Anyone have suggestions for what line up I should use for Soren? My guild just opened it

sand kindle
#

@brisk tapir stage?

grave hollow
crude chasm
sand kindle
#

Haha I remember this one. What number of this tower?

crude chasm
#

300

sly sparrow
ancient meadow
#

@sand kindle Just got pass 22-38

sand kindle
#

@ancient meadow 💪🏻💪🏻

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@crude chasm pm

obsidian bridge
sand kindle
#

@obsidian bridge ye

obsidian bridge
#

@sand kindle I’ll try that

regal swallow
torn lava
#

Any ideas guys 😦 rest are 124 crystal

Their whole team is just insane burst damage, and cc Wilders comp can’t live long enough to make impact

I also tried Belinda bot back with saveas but can barely kill vedan before my whole team dies

sand kindle
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@obsidian bridge try: reset few heroes and make Brutus lvl 221++ as high that u can. And try: shem brut tasi nemora lyca. That should go just need some rng

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@torn lava show all heroes. I’m on mobile so write very slowly

mellow hound
torn lava
#

@sand kindle I sorta fit all my heroes on crystal on That pic xD

grave hollow
torn lava
sand kindle
#

@torn lava how many dust u has?

torn lava
#

Not enough for 141 sav :/ like 3k

sand kindle
#

@grave hollow saveas<-> khasos

grave hollow
#

Ok I go try now ty

sand kindle
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@grave hollow rotate heroes and try to find best positions

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@torn lava if u has 3k - reset all heroes to 121 and one to 120 (hendrik). Make saveas 141++

Try 1-5: saveas lucius lyca tasi nemora. Nemora should charm saveas

regal swallow
#

Help me 🥺🥺🥺

sand kindle
#

@regal swallow ok last one for today. What you got?

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Ok then I’m done😋

grave hollow
#

Still no joy stupid game arghhh

twilit wind
regal swallow
#

10-40

pale kettle
torn lava
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@sand kindle sorry for late reply.. I only have 2600 xD so not enough for that

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But I’ll save your formation to try later thanks ^^

pale kettle
#

@regal swallow well first off you should start buying shemira from arcane labrynth shop and keep trying to ascend her, she can carry like no other.

torn lava
#

Shemira kills everything with time..

pale kettle
#

try Arden and/or tasi instead of fawkes

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I have shemira at M+ 186 rn and she's basically the reason I can do anything

regal swallow
#

Yeah I am saving for her, that’s were I got my first copy from

thorn tapir
#

@pale kettle you have tasi for boss you cant sleep why again?....

sharp egret
#

Any suggestions? (Should be able to see all relevant heroes I have)

pale kettle
#

@thorn tapir because of faction advantage and my other wilder's are under-ascendes. not sure who to replace her with

void otter
pale kettle
thorn tapir
#

Sav lol crazy high single DPS... He nukes the boss @pale kettle

torn lava
#

@sharp egret 1-5 saveas seirus Lyca Rowan Arden

pale kettle
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@sharp egret shemira instead of savaes, then put shemira in front of brutus and rowan behind seirus

torn lava
#

@pale kettle lvl 61 Shem might die to Brutus tho and his sav is 90

sharp egret
#

@torn lava no Lyca

pale kettle
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didnt notice his savaes was lvl 90 my bad

torn lava
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@sharp egret 1-5 saveas seirus Tasi Rowan Arden

sharp egret
#

I think I just need to level so my ults go off twice , but was wondering if there was anything stronger

pale kettle
#

@thorn tapir but then I'd lose the faction bonus of 3 wilder's which wouldnt I wanna keep that

sharp egret
#

That’s what I have 😂

thorn tapir
#

@pale kettle. Try damage test.. Just dont see tasi putting up numbers over a nuke vs her auto hitting because her ult doesnt work(shes actually ranked F for guild boss)

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If you wanna keep faction put in athalia but that tasi has to go lol

sharp egret
#

in early game tasi actually does reasonable damage if you have no one else and have decent items for her

thorn tapir
#

Meliodas is moving into late game lol.... Tasi isnt meant for guild boss either way

sharp egret
#

oh lol. if you didnt know tasi was bad for bosses i wouldnt think you were high level

thorn tapir
#

Early Mid Late... PvE / PvP yeah shes a beast but in guild boss she has nothing to offer but autos

radiant hull
#

Shown formation is just one of twenty iterations (not a good one) I've tried or am I missing something

thorn tapir
#

Lol everytime i see rosaline my mind is like instantly use her😅😂

radiant hull
#

Means losing wilder bonus means Lucius dies even quicker than he already does

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Vedan's opening burst kills everything I throw at him, same goes for silvina pretty much

scenic citrus
thorn tapir
#

Brutus vs Brutus / Sav frontline
Lyra arden twins

regal swallow
edgy surge
thorn tapir
#

@scenic citrus you missed the free rosaline?

scenic citrus
#

@thorn tapir My Brutus dies before even his immunity. Hmmm I think so, started like 3 days ago

rigid dragon
thorn tapir
#

You try the new setup @scenic citrus

regal swallow
#

😭😭😭😭

thorn tapir
#

@regal swallow end of the atrack whos alive ?

scenic citrus
#

Tried
Twins
Save
Arden
Brutus
Arden
But no luck

sly sparrow
thorn tapir
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@scenic citrus best bet would be running faction advantage but you dont have many lightbearers for that

regal swallow
#

@thorn tapir everyone except the front top 😭

twilit wind
rugged crypt
#

5 Dreafs

ancient meadow
twilit wind
#

;-;

rugged crypt
#

@twilit wind put the twins in crystal, Brutus And Lucius frontline, Saveas twins and nemora backline thank me later

twilit wind
#

Ooh... thnx

mild wing
#

@vernal berry Jw have you run shemira frontline there?

vernal berry
#

I did

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I dont want her to lose defense and attack ratting by grizz tho

mild wing
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because id prob use her there over fawkes

vernal berry
#

Should i use meta

scenic citrus
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@thorn tapir I can buy shemira from labyrinth store and get her to 68 from Crystal. Do you think it would help?

sly sparrow
mild wing
#

I like putting brutus on vedan but other than thatg it looks about what id do....@sly sparrow

sly sparrow
#

Ok i will try thank youu

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@mild wing oh also artifacts grace brut eye shem and call nem is it ok?

mild wing
#

swap brut and shem

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Shems siphon is not increased by attack speed, she is better with blad than eye, or grace if frontline

sly sparrow
#

But isnt brut weak with eye when he only has 15% crit while shem has 25% ?

mint pagoda
#

Hey guys, fairly new whale here, which would be my best lineup?

mild wing
#

it doesnt affect shem much

mint pagoda
mild wing
#

blade is better for shem

sly sparrow
#

I dont have blade tho

mild wing
#

Eye is not good on shem is all im saying

pale kettle
#

My message won’t send i’m trying to upload 2 pics

vernal berry
#

Rip

oak lance
deep temple
#

arden
lucius
lyca*
saveas
nemora

grave hollow
#

Should I just build wilders

median shell
mild wing
#

@grave hollow Wilder faction scrolls will give you best value early

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@median shell I would run lyca over rose for haste and 3 faction bonus

tired agate
grave hollow
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@mild wing I just want to ascend lyca as people have told me too lol

mild wing
#

Yeah I would too

manic steeple
grave hollow
umbral badger
#

Am I on the right track?

a) Crystal up to L180
b) When M+, all XP on Shem for L200.
c) When M+, all XP on Lucius next.
d) For LB, when M+ after Lucius, take Fawkes off crystal because he is a shop hero and 1 copy away from Ascended.

Feel free to share your opinion!

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If of course I manage to Ascend Shem, then XP on her to L220.

oblique phoenix
umbral badger
#

@oblique phoenix what stage is that? Pro tip: include and update it in your nickname

oblique phoenix
#

@umbral badger 14-34, sorry. Good idea

grave hollow
umbral badger
#

@oblique phoenix no worries! This way all knoow without having to be told. I cango gripe about how enemy X keeps one shotting my heroes in general chat, for instance, without saying where I'm at 🙃

oblique phoenix
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@grave hollow I would try swapping Ogi for Lucius and putting Lucius in front of Golus

umbral badger
#

@mumblegore#5670 Try Shem front in place of Lyca, and Arden middle back to root enemies

grave hollow
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Whats golds. :(

oblique phoenix
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That enemy centaur guy in front

grave hollow
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I tried that lucis died quick

umbral badger
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Golus is as scary an enemy as he is useless as an ally

oblique phoenix
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You could try Saveas frontline as well, he might live long enough to kill Golus. I recommend you try and kill him ASAP because otherwise he is impossible to kill

grave hollow
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I can kill him it's the dagger at backbone centre I can't kill she dodgers everything

oblique phoenix
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Oh yeah, Kaz's ability lets her dodge everything for a certain amount of time. Just have to wait that one out if you can

umbral badger
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I want Antandra real bad even just for faction tower so I can fodder Saveas to boost Brutus (my crystal is at L177)

astral marsh
grave hollow
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Tnx for advice I will try to keep plucking away at it

tired agate
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no

umbral badger
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After L160 (well, past that enough that L160 is well behind) the only blue hero worth keeping is Arden.

oblique phoenix
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@astral marsh I would try swapping Arden for Athalia to get the enemy Arden

tired agate
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no.. just keep retrying, this comp can definitely do it

edgy surge
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Also estrilda instead of brutus seems Better due to Her stunning silvina

mild wing
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If it works it works, its all trial and error with formations

warm ocean
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@edgy surge what level is that?

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@astral marsh what level is that?

indigo jolt
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You made it past 20-20 lol.

warm ocean
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Yes I foddered nara and grezhul (still have a E copy) and got 200 crystal

indigo jolt
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Oh well, at least it helped. Be very sad if you didnt prgoress afetr doing it,

warm ocean
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And it helped me on solar plane a bit, but stuck here on 20-24, haven't tried it more then 50 times but yeah

indigo jolt
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Oh, you manage the 240 camps yet?

warm ocean
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I have killed two but last second lost shem before I could restart, so restarting pot

edgy surge
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@warm ocean 20 26

warm ocean
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What did you use to beat 20-24 ?

edgy surge
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Brutus shemira and 3 Wilders i think, either tasi nemora lyca or tasi arden lyca

warm ocean
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Wanna know the sad thing

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I have the dust and hero essence to make shem 240 if I could just get another Shem :/

grave hollow
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Still can't pass it 😡

warm ocean
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The water dude sucks @grave hollow just an fyi

grave hollow
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I just was using for bonus I have tried every hero I have

umbral badger
indigo jolt
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@umbral badger I would say you might be better off with Rowan rather than Rosalina, to counter energy drain and for ult stun on backline divers. If you have crystal spot.

umbral badger
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@indigo jolt although I don't I will keep that in mind and just got this 3rd copy with today's daily chest scroll of all things o__o

wraith barn
umbral badger
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@TheMuffinMan420#7182 Tough stage. Arden to top back to root Shem and Grezhul

honest storm
umbral badger
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@MaSo123#2781 have you tried Belinda or Saveas top back?

honest storm
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@umbral badger Tried almost everything

umbral badger
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I know that feeling all too well