#lineup-help
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U got tasi and Lyca by any chance? @wise stream
Yeah only elite tho
@tawny jewel Yes I definitely used something like that, except I don’t have Mehira. Shemira needs to kill everyone quickly though so it may depend on what gear you have on her and maybe the few levels difference between your Shemira and mine is how I got to pass this level
Mk try
Shemira
Lucius
Tasi
Lyca
Saveas, (id replace lucius with brutus if u had him) @wise stream
@wise stream try to lvl up ur saveas to 160.
Lineup:
Shemira
Saveas
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
@uncut sapphire my shems gear.. its bad. Also what lvl was your shem
@tawny jewel This was my Shem when I beat this level. On my other I have 3 Mythic gear as well, but non GB but she is 180
@sand kindle Delevel Shem to get Sav to 160 or just grind a few more levels? That they are only Elite and not Legendary isnt a big of a deal?
@uncut sapphire oh okay. I will get boots when they come to the guild shop. Hope they are gb
@wise stream ye try reset ur shem to 121. As for the wilds - it doesn't matter. What is matter - arden should be 141
@tawny jewel Good luck ! Have you tried Dura’s Grace on her ? I find it better
@uncut sapphire grace? No i didnt i will try it
Lol this level is brutal :(
Ok, so Sav to 160, Shem to 121, Arden 141 and Lyca and Tasi 121 (dont have a nemora)
@wise stream hmm tasi is pretty good too, but here was the idea to charm enemy saveas or khasos
Ah ok, that wont work then im afraid
Any team advice for 16-40?
Any advice ?
Any suggestions for this stage in Kings Tower?
@fallen star You should reset your heroes to level 141 and get Shem 180. With that you can get to chapter 15
Any tips on improving it?
@static ibex Overlevel your Saveas. You can lower the level of your Hogan for that
If I replace mirael or Belinda I can transcend one of my light bearers
And I heard shemira was really good so I don’t know who to replace and transcend
@uncut sapphire Will do that, thanks :)
19-36 thoughts?
Always end up at same end with good rng. Golus ult kills shem witj only isabella and golis left.
@indigo jolt Not sure if doable with Brutus 160, I tend to overlevel when I progress. However, charm Vurk with Nemora so he poisons his own team.
@static ibex Shemira is good at level 161+. Until that you want to use Saveas. Don’t use 4-skill heroes to ascend your other heroes, you could sacrifice Mirael as she is 3-skill hero but it’s better to wait until you can ascend a hero directly to L+ (you need 4 copies of them) and you only have 3 copies of Belinda. Saveas will be your main carry so he needs to be of a much higher level than everyone else. You can then use Brutus to tank and an other tank or even Saveas frontline, and maybe try using your supports like Arden, Mehira, Rosaline
Who do I send to rickety cart then?
@static ibex Try with everyone level 81 and Saveas max level
@static ibex You have her E+ and E which are 3 copies. If you wanted to ascend Belinda, you could only get her to Legendary and not Legendary+, it may then take a while to get a 4th copy to get her Legendary+. That’s why it’s best to wait until you have two E+ of a hero or 4 copies, otherwise you may get stuck a while at level 140
What should I do? What should I get from the box? What’s the best line up I can make? What should do with all these ascensions, I’ve been waiting for ages to get copies
@dusk geyser Lyca is the best hero you can get from the box. I don’t think you should ascend anyone yet, see my answer above. You should focus on building Saveas L+ but you don’t have the fodder yet (don’t feed Brutus to him)
@pale rover
Poison isn't really the issue. Tried charming as well but Shem doesn't survive w/o the roots so far. Also, any reason you can think of why Tasi switches 1st banish between Grez and Isabella it seems every attempt.
Ill try merc a Brutus and see if thats the difference.
@fierce kayak well, you brought it upon yourself :))
@humble pine
Can also try with Arden and tasi's positons switched, depending on your luck.
@fierce kayak Got a line up for 19-36? Pic above.
Nvm got it, after changing aroudn and Tais stopped being silly.
@fierce kayak @indigo jolt n3ed L+ Arden for it to work ;*(
Wtf Shemira M+ at 12-40 and I’m still waiting on fodder to get her M lol
Just reset Estrilda and Sav and get Shemira to 161
@pale oracle Yeah, if you have the dust i would reset Sav to 140 and make Shemira 161, can probably also reset Estrilda if necessary for levels/dust to 140.
Then replace Sav in lineup with Lyca or Arden/Tasi if you have.
Just get her 180 and get to chapter 15 haha
@humble pine you can borrow from others
@fierce kayak yep, I can borrow, next week :)) Which stage are you on, btw?
@humble pine actually else just try lower ascended Arden.. I dunno.. might work?
@fierce kayak I have E+, he just roots and dies right after 😉 With RNG help I take down one Khanos, but jump from other one and push from Golus simply deletes my Shem instantly
@fierce kayak which stage are you on rn?
@humble pine 19-39.
19-38 is a wall. After that it's pretty easy to go chap 20.
Then nightmare starts again. . 😂
@fierce kayak I'm so tired of getting onle blue pulls from diamond summons that I have started considering spending $$$ on regal rewards 😄
Especially when you see triple purple pulls from other people...
Should I ascend hogan or belinda?
@stiff pebble I know this is from a while ago, but estrilda.
@bleak snow Saveas should be your carry and highest level. He should be behind Brutus, switched with lyca
@ebon juniper Don’t use Belinda as fodder, she is an ascended tier hero
Saveas overleveled as a cary is #1 until level 160@bleak snow
@ebon juniper neither right now, wait until you have more foddeer, Rose and Belinda should not be used as fodder, patience is key
@bleak snow I think the level cap for rare is 60 or 80
Ah I thought he was E I didnt see the color right
60
@bleak snow Try to get a faction bonus in your team
Okey thanks for the help guys :D
Is he R or R+
R
R he’s 64 rn I didn’t have any luck pulling more saveas
Yeah you couldn’t get him past 60 if you wanted to level him so keep him in the crystal for now
Saveas isn’t in Crystal
Oh so the level cap is 80. Anyway I think you should get him Elite or Elite+ before using him as your main carry. What are your other heroes ? You need to put 3 of the same faction
gl
Should i swap out Lyca with Tasi?
@indigo jolt I asked for you: Tasi switches banish targets because Grezhul steals 30% attack from whoever he's hitting for 6 seconds. Brutus needs to be top and not at the bottom, because Isabella will always target the top front first so that's + Grezhul's attribute leech and Vurk's acid (which is why your Shemira melts). Make Tasi Silvina's target, and a borrowed Brutus mercenary should do the trick.
I'm starting to struggle every day at 8-X lvl. Any advices on which hero I should pick, or like should I throw some to lvl up other? I run Lucius/estrilda front and lyca/arden/tasi backplane. Tu for help :)
Any advice for 20-36?
Pretty much losing in 20 seconds each time with 4 enemies left, anyone can help with that?
@dense niche estrilda is a great hero but even though she is a strenght hero she fits better at the backline as a support/dps. If you want to go for her you prob need a LB team that can fit her there. anyhow from the looks of it you need a dps so I suggest trying to go meta for low lvl and get that saveas carry or any other Good dps (whatever floats your boat) 👌😉
Getting my ass slapped
oof
@supple stratus buddy.. You open the door and invite golus to stomp your team 🙂
And there is little we can do without seeing full roster
Some help?
@honest storm just level Belinda from now.
Belinda swap with Rosaline.
Else
Arden
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Rosaline
Will be better if your Arden root first
@pale rover Thanks for asking. I actually managed it without Brutus at all in the end. 19-36
@fierce kayak full lineup
@indigo jolt bro, 19-39 and 19-40 be easy. Before that if you need help can ping me. G luck.
I have 19-38. 37 I not sure if I have.
@ @fierce kayak
Uhm, they rek my team haha
Here is fight again
@fierce kayak Haven't got round to trying 19-38 yet, but know its repeat of earlier stage so will try that lineup out 1st.
@honest storm then need more levels I suppose
@indigo jolt Sure. I like to try out myself too first. Cheers
Worked with hawkes or whatever his name is @fierce kayak
Any ideas? Tried all diff positions with that team but no tasi sleep even
I’m losing in like 20 seconds every time, anyone can help?
@supple stratus imo ur overall team is underlevel u might want to afk a but
@ember oak try Rosaline estrilda instead of arden and nemora
My problem with Rosa is that she goes to saveas
@ember oak thats not a problem... Saveas is ur carry
Yeah but he already gets his super fasts without her, so she never uses her super
She helps him do more damage so shes great. U might be a little underlevel so u cant do much with her just yet
Okay ty
Yay my saveas decided finally to kill their saveas and then they didn’t even damage lol
Any help?
Thx, guess this is my Wall.
Should I use belinda instead of tasi or hogan ?
18-12, closest i came was a shem 1v1 but i didnt manage it
@honest storm gratz. Fawkes.
@supple stratus try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Or play around with this meta team
@odd python you have tasi?
yeah e+
Any ideas?
@jade wedge only level Shem from now on till she 180. Tasi banish Khoaos? You have tank issue.
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Belinda
Nemora
Try
@cedar dock why would u use light vs GB?
Can't see you full roster too buddy
@cedar dock you have too many Ls..
@fierce kayak What does that mean exactly?
@cedar dock you can read pinned message #classic-questions. Top right
That’s the best lineup I found by myself but I still lose, any other ideas?
@cedar dock Buddy.. you mind to upload stage and roster together? Not easy for us to scroll up and down 🙂
Tips for a Better comp? 16-4 but I need to think about an "endgame" lineup
@cedar dock try
Nara
Sav
Kaz
Ulums
Nemora
Not easy buddy. Quite a mess on your team tbh. Wrong ascension, wrong heroes focus, etc..
You didn't buy Shem too?
lemme know when i can ask 
ill just slide this here i have also tried with Lyca, Tasi and Arden as backline, but they died even faster and with Thane instead of the tomb dude
@spiral cargo feel free to just post buddy. Both stage and roster
@spiral cargo you tried nemora middle back to charm fareal?
hmmm no, should i try the wilder backline? or just swap Athalia for Nemora
i usually dont ask for help, but this 19-20 is making me mad 😂
Brutus dies instantly due to Shemira and Grezhul, then Athalia almost at the same time, Fawkes falls easily and then Ferael cleans my Belinda, and Shemira cant 1v5 them all
@spiral cargo always nemora mirror position fareal to charm fereal. Reset if charm fails.
Wilders back is meta.. surely is good ^_^
Try
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
Or
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Shem
Tasi
Ok thanks, i'l give it a try 
Any advice on 21-49? God I hate Silvina. Just so you know, I cannot make nemora’s defense higher than Tasi.
ok the second option seems to be working quote well, ill give it some more shots, thanks
Nemora ate my arden 😬
yea that should work too)
But I will try once I can grab one. Thank you.
I’m not sure if lvl 220 shem can handle the damage but I’ll definitely try. Thanks again
Yea probably sig will help. so u can try using nemora instead of arden
What should I do here? Or just wait?
The best team from this?
@oak zephyr do you have enough powder for another 61
no missing 100
@winter burrow mistake ascending rosaline and belinda. Focus on making a saveas and hogan and arden, disregard all your ascended tier units until post 161, unless its a tank that you can use. Even then..
@upper path dont use ascended heroes for fooder. And on what chapter are u?
@ashen mantle 18-40 one of the infamous walls
@upper path dont use arden as fooder just yet than.
so any tips?
@oak zephyr if you can 61 Arden via resonating Crystal he roots 2. Saveas is weak at before 141 because he doesn't have sustain, wondering if you can reset Lucius so that hogan can be 61 for Arden at resonating crystal.
@upper path arden roots 2 at 81
Oh it's not 61? Sorry.
Lvl 61 is ult upgrade for legendary heroes
@ashen mantle i did use Arden as fodder once just because he gets squashed or stunned before he can root. And at 18-40 this is happening as well. I don't have 4 copies of nemora but I have 4 copies of lyca. both can be 200 after maybe 2 or so more months.
What’s my best wrizz/Soren line ups?
@upper path well if ur not level stuck i woudnt do it. L+ arden starts getting 1shot at c20+
It worked best with this lineup
@pale kettle try shem (blade), lucius, estrilda, raine, rosaline (Call) for wrizz. For Soren, try replacing raine for nemora. Put call on lucius and manual play it. Use shield and heal before he charms
@forest flume got 46 on wrizz, and like 13 on Soren. Musta messed up timing or something lol
Yeah Soren charmed ur team early 😅
With that exact line up, and shem at 220 i got around 70mil vs wrizz.
@forest flume dang! Lol, I wasn’t very close to that at all 😂
Hmm, maybe our gear is very different 🤔
@tawny jewel your lineup is pretty good, try to roll it more. Maybe Mehira -> Nemora or tasi
@sand kindle yea i tried. I am just desparate and i keep posting it. I will just afk for some hours and hopefully i get gb mythic gear tmrow
@tawny jewel also you can try arden in the mid and nemora at top
Any can help?
Tips? 19-38
@split gull yea.
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Roll till you win. Its 100% working build
Did it like 50 times already xD
same lineup I send you?
Okay
Suggestions?
@sand kindle I tried so many times but it doesn’t work, any other ideas?
@foggy crane lineup is good. Maybe try to reset brut to 200 and make shem 240?
@ember oak one moment, lemme have a look
Ok
@ember oak I’m sure you should make all team 81 and saveas 101)
Trying to, gotta afk more I guess
Also you thought of putting saveas down and arden up maybe?
best lineup i could use? currently using shemira/brutus/lyca/nemora/tasi
@fierce kayak Thanks! Swapped some relic and equipment around and use Kaz instead. Worked out~
i kind of want to build a lightbearer backup team but idk if i should
I keep using Kaz as my tank. It’s making me think I should take her to L+ lol
@ember oak a lill) you almost got it. Saveas 120 will carry u
@jade wedge gratz buddy
Saveas 20 impossible with afking lol, I'll need to afk for days. And I'm getting belinda E+ tomorrow and might start upgrading her
@thorny yacht you using best one. Sometimes u can switch tasi for Arden (make him 141). Also u can switch semira for saveas 160
@ember oak yes and no. You will slowly make saveas 120) and I hope you will make him L or L+ soon
Same, but isn't it bad to make him L instead of L+? Or since he's a rare it's not that bad
@ember oak L not too bad, but u need L+ for future
@violet pecan what stage is that?
Someone a good idea for 7-28 maybe?
Swap Lucius and Rosa, and maybe try Arden instead of Rosa
Best wrizz team?
@mellow hound saveas brut numisu belinda nemora (if your team need some heals) or thane/estrilda (put E+ thane to crystal).
Oh shoot i put wrong thane in crystal lol
This is guild wrizz btw, not hard lab wrizz
Am i stuck or dumb stage 5-40
@sand kindle 20-39
@pale kettle try the musician guy at very top instead of eldaine or whatever his name is
The start buff should help a lot
@violet pecan make lyca 180 and Brutus 200. Then try: 1) your lineup 2) swap tasi for arden 3) brutus lyca shemira nemora tasi
Help people
Day 7. Best team to go for right now? Currently at chap 6
@keen stump i cant because idk how it looks
@vernal berry
Charm ogi put saveas in place of nemora change Hogan for shemira
Then tell me how that go
Maybe drop fawkes on crystal for faction bonus
Help please
Best team for Wrizz guild hunt? I've got Lucius, Shemira, Rosaline, Belinda and Raine for extra damage skill
Hard stuck at 19-20 guys... I think I won't pass it until I can ascend and lvl up some heros sadly...
@haughty hull
IMO
Lucius
Shem
Baden
Brutus
Estrilda
Also I’m stuck on 19-7 any advice would be appreciated
Help please, My brother is stuck on this level
@olive fossil You brother needs to reset is heroes to lvl 81 and to put everything into Saveas. Saveas will carry him until lvl 160 so he should focus on getting him to legendary+ now
@untold venture Arden is not a tank, he will get destroyed in front line
He needs more luck for Saveas to get to L+, nearly at 2700 diamonds tho so if he’s lucky

@pale kettle First you need to swap Belinda and Lucius, he is the tank, she is the carry. You will struggle with LB units againts GB
Didnt work btw only formation i got so far that got close with @sand kindle
@olive fossil Yes but I think it would still work better if he overleveled his Saveas
And should saveas also wear Duras grace?
What other artifacts does he have ?
@untold venture Your team doesn’t have any faction bonus, maybe use Ulmus or Vurk instead of Belinda ?
Just Duras Grace actually
Then yeah I think he should put all his best stuff on Saveas
And put Sav behind Brutus
Currently stuck on 9-20, can anyone help please?
some one help me plssss
@uncut sapphire thanks! Thats really did the trick, what if he caps out before he can make him legendary? Focus Brutus?
Yeah level up Brutus. I think he’ll need to get everyone to 100 before being able to get Sav 121 anyway
ty sir i passed 6-40
help me plssss 20-26
@untold venture You’re welcome, good job !
it's so hard to pull shemira
Rosaline is quite useless on Saveas, his ultimate lasts longer than she lives for
@untold venture Thankfully you can buy her every month from the lab which is enough 😃
Is it worth keeping saves after you have shemira beyond lvl 161? Or should I go ahead and feed him into brutus?

@runic veldt I’m wondering the same thing but I’ve heard he is useful for faction towers. I’ve just unlocked them today so we’ll see.
@olive fossil What other heroes does he have ? The wilder supports are the best but they’re not easy to get except for Arden
Ok. I'll hold onto him for now then, thanks.
@tepid sentinel my shem was 220 and the rest 180 but brutus 196
@olive fossil There not much of a choice then... I’m surprised he’s got so few Elite heroes but maybe I don’t remember well the early levels. He should focus on building an Arden, he will be very useful later. He needs to buy Shemira from the lab every month and if he has enough coin to buy another hero he should get Nemora, she will help greatly. Then all he needs is a Lyca or Tasi, I think you will be able to get Tasi from next Voyage of Wanders
@frigid dagger brutus is legend :< cant up top 196
16-24 any advice?
@tepid sentinel brutus 180 should work with some rng luck, u just need the 7 seconds of invulnerability
@tardy river How far are you from Sav Legendary ? Does he die too quickly if you put Sav/Gendrik front line and Tasi/Lyca/Arden in the back ?
@frigid dagger that my line up
@tepid sentinel try top down shem brutus top down tasi lyca nemora
like this
I think he meant
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Nem
Who should I use within this team? Also should I make vedan L? I don't use him currently or save the fodder for shemina?
Also should I keep leveling saevas? Or catch the rest of my team up to 140? I have enough dust to get 5 to 140 or him to 150ish
I can upgrade lyca or nemura to legendary, which one is better to level first ?
@sharp hornet Saveas is one level from his max so yeah get him 160 you’ll get diamonds. I think you should stop ascending every hero you have to legendary. You should only ascend heroes when you have 4 copies of them so you can get them to L+ and not be stuck at legendary waiting for a chance to get more copies. Also Gorvo was definitely not a priority, you will need tons of wilder food, and you need an Arden L+. You could ascend Vedan as he will be fodder for your Mythic Shemira anyway
@frozen charm How many copies do you have of each ?
Yeah ascended them early on by mistake.
Any tips?
Stuck on 9-20, could really use some help please?
Well right now I can make nemura cause I have her at elite + already I would need to wait a little to get lyca up there I only have her at elite
@hasty ingot move saveas to bottom. Nuke down vedan
I'm still new to this so...who is good to level up? And when picking a formation how should it go?
Anyone have any ideas? Tried a bunch of combos but just getting mowed down. Feel like this shouldn’t be that hard.
@frozen charm Then I would ascend Nemora. As I said before you only should ascend to legendary when you have 4 copies of a hero because you could get no more copies of Lyca for months for example. Nemora is an exception though cause you will always be able to buy her from the lab if you’re stuck and need a 4th copy. Otherwise wait until you have 4 copies because you will get stuck at lvl 140 if you don’t
@obsidian bridge use brutus vs hogan move lyca back and remove nemorah
Hi all, I’m currently stuck on 11-40. Would appreciate help on team formation, I currently run Saveas, Brutus, Lyca, Nemora, Tasi. Also, which artifacts are best suited for who? I have the Eye, drape, grace, and call. Thanks!
@uncut sapphire so keep everyone at 120 and finish saevas?
Oops didn’t attach picture
@sharp hornet Yes you only need one more level for Sav and you will get diamonds for it.
@late knot what heroes do you have ? Usually you should put 2 tanks on the front, a dps and two supports in the back. Your dps should be overleved compared to all your heroes. Later, you will be able to put the dps front line with one tank and 3 supports in the back. You need to keep every 4-skills hero that you get, even though some are worse than others. The best ones from early to mid game are Shemira (which you should buy every month from the lab), Nemora, Brutus, Lyca, Tasi, Lucius,...
Among 3-skills heroes, the only good ones that you will keep for a long time are Saveas and Arden. Saveas will be your main dps until lvl 160
@uncut sapphire this is where I am currently stuck at and what I have been using
Any help appreciated
@sharp hornet Try the meta team : Saveas/Brutus front and Tasi/Lyca/Arden back
@uncut sapphire i am thinking to dump my sig items into belinda is it good idea??
@uncut sapphire even though Brutus, arden are on E+ and tasi is e? I don't have lyca either
@sharp hornet Yeah try it, put them in the crystal. Your current team doesn’t work well, you have Lucius in the back and he is a tank. Put Nemora instead of Lyca
@ornate totem No idea sorry, I only have the sig item for Shemira
@uncut sapphire this is who I have right now
@uncut sapphire i just not a shem fan so where just asking!
@sharp hornet brutus, saveas in front and Nemora,Arden, Tasi in back. You’ll get 3-2 faction bonus.
@late knot Brutus is great ! You can also use lightbearers as you have many of them (Lucius, Belinda and Rosa for example). The big thing is that you should level every hero you have ! Only level 5 heroes because you will unlock soon the Crystal where you can put heroes ton get the same lvl as your 5th one ! You need to reset your heroes except 5 of them BUT you don’t need to reset rare and common heroes because you will get everything back if you use them as fodder for ascension so don’t waste diamonds. You can dumb all your common heroes in the rickety cart
You should NOT* level every hero sorry lol
@uncut sapphire that team got steamrolled in seconds
@uncut sapphire is your carry shem do you like her (personaly i don't like her)??
@uncut sapphire should I make arden L?
@ornate totem After lvl 161 she is the absolute best. She carried me from 12-12 to 15-3
@sharp hornet Well that’s weird.... Yeah make Arden L+ even, he will be awesome at lvl 141
@uncut sapphire should I lower saevas and make saevas and arden 141+?
Any help for 20-54 much appreciated
@sharp hornet Damn that’s a tough one, I don’t really know the answer to that. The triple root is awesome but Sav is your carry... Try if you can spare the diamonds
Anyways I have to go. Bye everyone 👋🏻
@uncut sapphire so EVERY green card hero that's common I can get rid of?
@uncut sapphire when I swap Belinda and Lucius he gets like 3 shots then dead
Saveas is listed as S Tier in early tier list, and Seirus D tier, but Seirus always out damages him even though hes a tank
I'm having a lot of trouble advancing in chapter 9. Any pointers for what I should use for my comp? PvE mostly. Stuck on floor 120 of Kings tower.
Chapter 9-28 is where I'm stuck
Saveas should be your carry for a bit longer so I’d over level him
Then based on what you have probably some lighbringers to tank and support
Right now I mostly rock lucius+hogan+Rosaline+Saveas+either belinda or fawkes
But I'm hard stuck at this part
Dont remember what ch9 was, can you show the stage?
I’m stuck on 16-40 right now ::
@formal bronze give this a try
Nemora
Lyca
Mehir
Shem
Arden
Stage 9-28
Swap gear and give duras call to mehira before you try it @formal bronze. But your lyca and arden are e+ so it might be worse :/
@inland wren a screenshot of their positions too, followed by a screenshot of your full roster :)
Try
Sav
Golus
Ros
Hogan
Belinda
@inland wren btw you should treat saveas only as the carry and overlevel him above all others
@late knot Yes they have absolutely no use and can be traded for dust and tokens with which you can buy elite soulstones. Just keep enough to do your daily quests if you don’t have enough heroes
Read the first 2 pinned posts in the questions room @inland wren
will do
@inland wren IF takez doesnt work.
Sav
Lucius
Rowan
Golus
Fawkes
Tried to work towards some standard builds but did not get the right heroes.. anything i can do with this inventory? 10-1 atm
Wait what sry ignore the one i told you to try . Use what @indigo jolt suggested
ty
@mental thorn a standard build is saveas. Dont you have a saveas built up?
it almost worked 😦
What almost worked
Does anyone have an idea for 14-39 ? I managed to beat it on my other account with Tasi but here I don’t have Tasi :/
@tawny jewel ehh not yet.. i can tho, i have some in the bank - any combinations with that?
@inland wren first of all reset hogan, belinda and grezhul. Get them all 3 up to 101 and then put all lvls into saveas. The characters that you can be using will be lucius , saveas(always) , golus , hogan , fawkes , nemora , rownan and maybe silvina. But for this stage i would suggest you go
Saveas
Golus
Rownan
Lucius
Fawkes
Anyone I can add for my dailies?
@uncut sapphire
I would try swapping Nemora and Arden's positon, or Athalia in for Nemora.
@mental thorn i dont think that a shemira can carry before lvl 161. You can also get your estrilda e+. I heard of a good team consisting of estrilda and khasos let me check
@indigo jolt Arden gets destroyed by Khasos :/ I’ve tried Athalia in every position also
@uncut sapphire Nara mid? And who would you say is the problem enemy
Vurk deals a TON of damage and Khasos is second because he one shots my backline
resetting the three to level 101 and boosting saveas got me through
@uncut sapphire i saw something interesting yesterday and i will just say it.
Go
Saveas
Shem
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Try
Arden
Athalia
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora/Lyca
@inland wren yup carry is always around40 lvls above supports and 20 above tank
@tawny jewel Well that was fun lol
@takez i see, thanks in advance eh!
@uncut sapphire haahah sry bro
@indigo jolt Doesn’t work :/
I’m getting destroyed I guess I really need a Tasi
@tawny jewel @indigo jolt Thank you for trying anyway 😃
@mental thorn you might want to ask somone else for the khasos estrilda comp. Ask in questions if khasos works well with estrilda
@mental thorn your athalia luck is too good
Lol this guy with 3 Athalias ans 1 Twins
@mental thorn problem is , you lack a carry. Keep buying shemira from the shop and at lvl 161 she will be your carry. For now try a team with
Hogan and khasos front line, and arden rownan and athalia back
Arden behind khasos
@mental thorn Saveas is the best carry pre-160 but I suppose you fed him to Khasos :/
Hey I’m stuck on last level of 18, anyone have thoughts?
As to who you should overlevel. Athalia is the one but she is capped at lvl 120. Maybe khasos but dont overlevel him too much
@obsidian bridge
Any tips for 16-40?
@obsidian bridge try
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
@summer hatch show roster
I did - was waiting on slow mode.
@tawny jewel shem just getting crushed
@summer hatch
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Athalia
Or
Nemora
Lucius
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
@obsidian bridge nemora charms ogi and brutus deals dmg to the wilders as he has faction bonus. Does tasi get her ult off
@tawny jewel you had me take Tasi off
@obsidian bridge i mean before that
You’re amazing. First lineup worked. Thanks
She usually got it off right at the end lol with just shem alive but wasn’t enough damage to kill everyone left @tawny jewel
trying to decide who to replace saveas with as I level
Shemira definitely when you get her M
yea those last couple copies are being a pain
Even with lab tokens and the PoT ?
how does PoT help?
You get a copy of SHem from completing Divine Realms.
ah just finished anceint ruins. may have to push it then
I say complete, you only need to get to 1 crystal.
You just need to do the green path. You should be able to easily defeat the desert one though
im looking at that one now
@obsidian bridge you should kill that niru as fast as possible so maybe
Nemora/arden
Shem
Athalia
Brutus
Lyca
@river citrus you get 1 from a pot
Just got all my good heroes to 82 and saveas to 201, who should I focus on now?
@ember oak Saveas to 120.
NOOOOO
@indigo jolt so you’re saying I should leave them all st 81 and focus saveas for now?
Yes, you'll get the most benefit from overlevelling Saveas,
Also is it worth getting him to L it should I wait to directly L+ like the other heroes
As long as you aren't feeding ascending tier heroes its fine to go to L, as getting Saveas copies is much easier as hes a legendary tier unit. If possible, i wouldnt feed another E or E+ Saveas if you have it though.
I’m about to get another elite saveas, but plan to make him L as well for L+
You don;'t need 2 L's for L+. Its L+ = L + E+ copy of same hero
Refer to #545929173471068170 and type .ascensionguide
Oh I had no clue, thanks!!
@gilded ruin what chapter is that
@tawny jewel 16-20
How many shem copies do you have
Any help?
@gilded ruin aave up fodder to get her to mythic. For now you cant use her
@oblique stone No lyca?
@gilded ruin i would use
Belinda
Estrilda
Arden/lyca
Lucius
Nemora
Belinda is your carry and she should be highier lvl than lucius
@indigo jolt#836 only Lycas I’ve ever gotten were fodder for tasi
@gilded ruin you can also
Belinda
Estrilda
Rosaline
Lucius
Fawkes
Which is better imo but yku will be at a full faction disadvantage. Also, read the first 2 pinned posts in questions room
Lyca is almsot 100 % essential vs Lyca.... shouldn;t of foddered her.
@oblique stone Drop ira for Athalia, put Athalia opposite Arden and swithc Lucius and Estrilda's positions.
got destroyed @indigo jolt
What happened?
athalia died to arden and then lyca & ira ulted and destroyed my entire line
Drop raine as well for arden or nemora maybe. See if you can root/charm him after atahlia pushes back
pretty much the same thing happened both ways.
Also nemora charms estrilda instead of arden.
should i just AFK and ascend?
@tawny jewel i think I need to grow estrilda more.. She gets 1 shot
You have plenty of levels in my opinion, just not a normal setup. Retry till charm is on arden. And should stop ascending so many units to L, L+, at this point you need to focus on getting fodder L+ for ascensions for extra A's.
lmao retried again and won thanks @indigo jolt
@gilded ruin its the faction disadvantage. Also growing her more wouldnt be good as you dont need her when u get shem
@gilded ruin try,
Belinda
Lucius
Rosa
Brutus
Fawkes
Any suggestions? Tried arden instead of lyca too but nothing seems to work. Can‘t level sav bc of dust
@visual quiver who does Tasi banish>
I have no clue how banish looks like. is it that green stun thing?
if so then she banishes isabella
Banish, is when they go slightly invisible/pale, and stop ataacking
Try
Tasi Nem Arden at back, Ezizh Sav front.
Be prepared to retry till you get 2 roots and Nem charmed with charming another enemy.
Stuck on 19-7, any advice would be appreciated
@indigo jolt I'm pretty sure that that was my standard formation but I'll try again. thanks
20-54
@abstract shuttle
Shem
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
If that struggles ill see if i saved my formaton.
@indigo jolt lol. I won after second try. thanks
Please it’s peaks of time thing
kind of at a loss as to who i should ascend. any tips? stuck on 18-16.
@pale kettle Do you have enough copies for A on anyone? If not shop heros or wait it out.
Stuck on 17-36
@indigo jolt thanks I’ll try it out
don't have chalice yet, struggling with last stretch of savage wasteland, but then again my crystal is like 5 lvls higher so maybe I can do it anyway
😮 you might survive anyway as your A
kaz reams her 9/10 times in first 15 seconds
Its the time she doesnt, though that you win when you cc her.
Any help is appreciated, tried numerous line ups
it's like arden doesn't even try to root her...
She dodges/immunes most of the time, but arden can definetly do it.
Floor 217 haalp xd
@weak dawn If you put Nemora lyca backline, is your Nemora fast enough to harm Arden?
@onyx basin Maybe? Try for ferael charm. Tasi lowest defence.
Tasi
Shem
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
@wise kestrel how did you beat 18 40
@tawny jewel thanks beat 17-36, now im figuring out 17-40
@indigo jolt what should the full comp be?
@limber copper if you want help just tyoe it in here and ill try my best bro
@weak dawn brutus shem 3 wilders
Okay. Since its an infamous wall i am saving it
@weak dawn Try that,
Nem
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Shem
that lineup for 19-6 finally worked, it's so fun trying 30 times for good rng!
I think he should put brutus against kaz
@wise kestrel i am at 150 something tries bro..
@mild vigil saveas shouldnt be in crystal. Read first 2 pinned posts in questions
@indigo jolt tyvm!
Yw.
Is Rosaline worth keeping on a team? I’m only in chapter 8
Depends on team
Depends. I know that shes really good for daily guild hunt
@pale kettle show me your full roster
I read the post, not sure what having saveas crystaled is doing wrong :(
@mild vigil did you read the second post? Saveas is a carry hero and carries need more levels
@mild vigil If Saveas is in crystal you cant overlevel him, as crystal level matches your lowest level hero.
@tawny jewel
I should just pump the shit out of his level then
@pale kettle show me your stage
Like the enemies?
Yep
@tawny jewel
@wind cobalt its too early for team comps. For now just try to level up that saveas
Ok than you
@pale kettle reset thane and belinda. Get saveas to 120 and use
Saveas
Brutus
Numisu
Seirus
Lyca
You still have few characters to make a complete team :/
Oh wow, so is this just temporary stuff? Cuz saveas can only get to 160 max?
Thats just how it is in the early game. Try n ot to fodder ardens and saveas
NOT fodder sry type error
ah, okay thanks. And then later (once I get Nemora and shemira) I Can go back to Belinda and stuff?
@pale kettle okay belinda is only good if the game has givn you ALOT of lightbearers. So you need a lightbearer dps. Belinda isnt as good early game as saveas is and not as good mid late game as shemira is
Ah, okay, thank you very much!
@indigo jolt do you have an image for 19-8?
@pale kettle you should be buying shemira from lab btw
I am trying to save up for her, thanks!
@wise kestrel Enemy lineup?
might as well give me the ss all the way down hahaha
id ope youd learn at least a bit lol..
I'm curious about the nemora for tasi switch
like I was able to get tasi to go off a couple times, but it didn't seem to be enough
Fereal stage = Nemora opposite to charm him, otherwise he destorys your lineup.
oh I always banked on luck on getting shem's ult off through his shadow because sometimes she'll cast early and sometimes she'll just sit on -15 -15 -15 and never cast
Yeah but he has like 3 up now, and it just slowly wrecks your team. Particularly if low ascensions as Niru will then just Ko them.
this is gonna take a lot more tries than I want to devote to it, niru is just dumb, I can be 1 hit away from killing him and then someone in back dies and he's at full health again
You can try another lineup if you want, i doubt its the only one that works, you do need Nemora hamr though.
I don't really have any other options, I need arden lyca and I have terrible tanks otherwise
Might be worth switching Brutus and Shem positons as yours i M+. see if Brutus can kill Niru faster.
maybe daily reset will actually give me str gear in shop today for once, dumb game
Lool
love the Niru + Silv boss combos
Any tips here? Just reached chapter 12 with these lot but stage one is already to much lol. Tried a wilder variant with tasi, lyca and arden where the first two die instantly. Also tried the lightbearers version but no luck either. Is this just a matter of more levels?
hogan sav front, tasi lyca nemora back?
@pale kettle i used athalia in saveas’s spot two hours ago
Bit your wilders should do the trick imp, pit lyca up front with estrilda and saveas, nemora and tasi in back?
gahhhh 19-12 has ogi again
lol..
Which ones should be my Main 5?
@wise kestrel chap 19 full of Ogi 
omg thank you so much @wise stream & @wise kestrel!!! finally passed it!! you guys are awesome!
wonderful... plus khasos pierces my tank to kill nemora/tasi/arden in 1 hit before they can do anything
@indigo jolt it’s struggles hard
@abstract shuttle did you pass 19-8? I was able to pass it with the lineup he mentioned
New player question. How would you organize this team? Try to get carry in a “corner” with progressively stronger units so that they die last or what?
Need some help with line up and heroes
@devout roost if sav can't be carry..I will use Belinda As carry over Shem imo.
Don't Ls hero any further. Only ascend if they go L+ right awaym
Which hero would you suggest in my frontline besides brutus currently in stage 9-7 estrilda seems to instantly die always
@vapid gull lucius? If u can get him to shield ur team u shud be good imo. U cud go for tasi as well tho
@mental barn silvina jumping to which hero of yours ?
Elijah
change Elijah with savaes places let him to try killing niru
ok
18-12, any ideas?
@indigo jolt so 19-12 on is luck with ogi?
try putting nemora up top to charm shem, lyca middle for her arrows to hit all of them
lyca dies before she can ult
maybe put brutus up top to survive the grez/shem damage for a few seconds, but that's basically what my team was, just messing with order
@wise kestrel Whats the problem with ogi, if lyca tanks him you can root him before bash as he has to travel further.
he wakes up from roots, throws lyca into arden, kills them both, and then I die
DId i give you my lineup for it?
yeah i’ve gotten as far as a shem 1v1 with this team (had call instead of blade) but no luck closing it out
Try that @odd python
you didn't give me a 19-12 lineup @indigo jolt but it seems that I can't use tasi or nemora because khasos kills them instantly so I've been futzing with alternate backline and getting reamed
alright ill give it a shot cheers
The on with warek ulmus khasos?
it's ogi khasos front, lyca nemora numisu back
@sharp egret just play on and learn the game. Early game you will pull a lot. For now nothing to do much from limited pool of heroes.
As for your carry theory.. erm.. not wrong.
oof, no thoran and my athalia is only e+
@fierce kayak alright, thanks for your response
Athalia and Thoran are both e+ lol.
I foddered my thoran for shemira a long, long time ago, only minor regrets
Try Brutus in Thoran spot, i might of dropped as mine is only L.
is numisu that deadly as ai?
Totem oneshot or 2 shot nemora at e+ i think.
Plus messes up targeting so much, and totems got buffed again. Switches over to Khasos once pushes Numisu i think, spo he trhows axe other way.
who am I hoping for nemora to charm here? why her over arden?
i tried the 4 wilders but not too much luck, mostly just enemy nem doesnt die and pulls off heals
vs nem you mostly just hope shem silences her until you can gang up on her at the end
hmmm my nem can charm their nem and she can charm someone else maybe? looks like I might need better boots on nemora though
nvm, swapped out lyca for brutus and cleared it after a few tries
Im stuck at 16 24. Usually shem lucius in front, nemora lyca and tasi in the back. Any suggestions for a stronger comp ?
Nem charmed Nem charmed Ogi, Ogi threw someone i think..
Try with arden if you want, it is definetly nt the only setup.
@keen glade Brutus front might be better, would say arden in for nemora generally. And you can try 4 wilders + Shem as well, with Lyca/Shem front.
Thanks @indigo jolt but brutus just dies and i never even considered arden i think i used him as fodder. Is he strong ?
@keen glade Arden is pretty much bread and butter post 141, as he has 3 roots unlocked.
https://i.imgur.com/jQTePv6.jpg Could do with some help with this <3
18-20
@odd python u gotta kill that shem mabey use lucios
@odd python
Last one for the night, gl.
thanks again
Help please
Even if I damage them they just heals up
@vernal berry well arden at 161 might help or us lyka or nar
Arden 161 tf do you mean
Arden capped at 160
Oof dame i though arden gets his max still at 161 to tangel 3 enemies
Should I change my comp up? Or do I just level up and wait till I can pass it?
No matter what I do, I can’t even damage Vedan. What should I do?
https://i.imgur.com/jQTePv6.jpg Could do with some help with this, thanks in advance lads
Is this beatable with my roster or am I just underleveled? Who should I level up if I am underleveled?
@last granite You're not underlevelled, definitely winnable. One comment is i would put an Arden of any level in Crystal, and start working on it again.
Try
Shem
Brutus
Nem/Tasi
Lyca
Tasi/Nem
It its not close, ping me if you havent passed by tomorrow, i am off to bed for real this time.
Might even work with Lucius as second tank, dropping either tasi or nem.
@last granite 100% beatable. And agree with getting Arden in your crystal
@indigo jolt @plucky flint okie dokie I'll try doing that
Can anyone help on where to go with this team? Can't keep anyone alive long enough for saevas to do damage
Lightborn and Mauler tower 60
@lusty meadow @lusty meadow experiment with these heroes
Tank: lucius/brutus/ezizh
Cc: fawkes/arden/rosaline
Dps: saveas/shemira/athalia
If you could make saveas 160 do that since your shemira is not yet 161.
Try this (3-faction bonus). Good luck!
Front: lucius | brutus
Back: athalia | shemira | saveas
@warm ocean i am disgusted. What the hell is that? Blood sweat and tears if you ask me 
See what I mean, complete bs
@last granite Managed to just brute force it earlier, thanks for your response though <3
@lusty meadow congrats! The rngeesus has blessed you today
@sharp hornet try
Nemora
Sav
Tasi (should banish khaos) /arden
Lucius
Arden /Tasi
Or
Arden/Tasi
Lucius
Tasi/Arden
Brutus
Sav
Tasi and nemora are just E though
Turns out kings tower lb and mauler 60 are just stupid bs, and wilders and gb are freaking easy
@sharp hornet it's fine
I’ve got a 200 Shem, 181 Brutus, and 160 Wilder team. Should I now level Brutus to 200 or the rest of the team to 180?
@fierce kayak how would you set them up formation wise?
@sharp hornet I already did up there 🙂
@fierce kayak just dies instantly
@sharp hornet u tried my other suggestion?
@warm ocean i defeated lightborn Flr 60
👀

@ember bane yup tasi and arden die almost instantaneously
@clear saddle i need advice for mauler 60
@ember bane omg.. with this team?! Impressive
Level everyone the f up
@ember bane bro it’s high time you figure some stuff out yourself
@sharp hornet ic.. sorry pal. Hope others can help you better
@ember bane go borrow a high ascend warek. And use Safiya
@fierce kayak thanks anyways guess I'll just have to wait to level everything else.
@fierce kayak was just hoping saveas could carry farther than chapter 11
@sharp hornet without M gears ard chap 13, M gears push to 14/15
@fierce kayak gears you mean equipment?
How to beat this one
Any ideas here? Between the charms, rooting, silence, mages getting killed... shemira gets totally disabled and Brutus goes down usually before a single ult.
@sharp hornet mythic gear
Mmmmm mr. CS help me
Lvl 200 Brutus solo 😃
I honestly have no idea what to do on this one. I watched vids of others beating it with wilder backline but when I try those lineups even with higher level heroes I get thrashed
@warm ocean go borrow since or bagel or anyone with high ascend Warek
@fierce kayak define high ?
Only an E golus and no crystal spot for him, and saveas is only E + for me
@warm ocean no need golus. I use him becos I have no better mauler.
Sav.. Erm.. I not sure if he is needed here but I always said need Sav at tower if you don't have any better dps like vurk, etc..
I have no one with a good Warek
Maybe Brutus like you best friend Tuesday said
I have a lvl 200 M+ Brutus myself you even look at the hero's on my picture lol
Haha.. I not sure. Tuesday said Brutus solo @clear saddle ^
Stuck on 19-8 any advice would be appreciated
@abstract shuttle pretty sure you got the right setup, just need some more rng. Also A Shem would help 😃
@fierce kayak I got a L Warek, and idk about this nothing dies
@abstract shuttle shem top Brutus bot, Nem charm Farael
help me with a proper team please
Soren lineup?
Lucius amd brutus in the front, shemira Belinda and khasos in the back?
Why khasos and not sav?
My current is
Front: Lucius saveas
Back: Nemora silvina shemira
Saveas works too. Khasos is just usually pretty butal, both at a distance and up close
@worldly horizon
Tank: brutus, grezhul, gorvo
Dps: shemira, saveas
Cc: arden
Support: rosaline
Lineup depends on the enemy. Good luck!
@last granite Can you help me too , thanks
@drowsy kite
Tank: lucius, hogan
Dps: shemira, khasos
Support: rosaline
Belinda is a good burst dps if you can get rosaline to help her
yo, could someone tell me if i should change my current line up? i started like two weeks ago and haven't really felt like ive gotten the hang of things. i am currently on 7-24, level 51
my current is:
• Back Row
Nemora lv100 Elite
Rowan lv100 Elite
Rosaline lv100 Elite
• Front Row
Hogan lv100 Elite+
Thane lv100 Elite
Hogan and Thane tend to get swapped depending on the tank placement of the enemy lineup
the reason why i haven't maxed out Hogan is because currently, Nemora has the highest attack value and that made Rosaline follow her, making her give me really frequent group heals. im debating whether i should forgo that and just level hogan up, or change my line up
@fierce kayak
@distant canopy Shemira Lucius Thane Belinda Rosaline for soren
@last granite I mange to get rosaline to help khasos but I die faster then got her to help Lucius and now it’s easier but do you think it’s better to make her help Belinda ? I will try it
@distant canopy
Need assistance beating 9-36
@warm ocean I have an ascended Khasos maybe can help you
Im stuck anyhelp?
@drowsy kite no it's fine if she could help lucius since he can heal and shield. Then if you need another dps you could try mirael and ira. I used mirael til around chap 11
Any halp would be appreciated!
@last granite yeah that’s why I level him up to 61 I need his attack to be the highest in the team so she will follow him 😦
and thanks for the help 
@drowsy kite that's smart and you're welcome! Good luck!
Help me beat 9-36? Ping me if you can help
Completely stuck, i need help
@dark current Switch Brutus’s and Shem’s position
Well.... It don't really change
@versed kite Try this lineup
Fawkes/tasi
Nara/ulmus/hendrik
Rosaline
Shemira
Nemora/tasi
You use either fawkes or nara to counter brutus, doesnt have to use both of them (you could if you want) .
@last granite I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
@last granite No dice. Just getting shredded :/
@versed kite hmm, i beat this using lucius, fawkes, athalia, arden, shemira.
I hope it can inspire you somehow.
And I hope you could get help from someone else, I'm not really that good with lineup ^^;
@versed kite
Golus and Hendrik in front, Saveas Fawkes and Belinda at the back. Might need levels, not sure. You can replace Saveas with Shemira for the minimum bonus since she might give you better dps.
Ok I'm liking my line up now
@dark current Shem 200 first before level the others. Don't even level buddy. Always overlevel. Even for Shem to Go 220, crystal 180
I could really use help passing 9-36. Formation tips?
GMorning!
Someone able to help?
hi, @last granite I followed your advice and I am level 24 and got stuck at 5-20
@honest storm hullo, such unfortunate your lucius died but I'll try helping.
Put a tank in front of athalia (gorvo, golus)
Put athalia in front of arden (to stop him rooting)
Swap belinda/estrilda with either mehira/athalia
Fingers crossed it'll help. Always exit if almost deafeated
@drowsy kite can you please screenshot the stage and your roster again? I'll try to help!
@last granite
@drowsy kite sorry, i meant the stage lineup so we could also recommend a lineup for you
Sorry I am only 3 days into the game still learning lol
Level up your squad a bit
@drowsy kite okie dokie try this
Khasos
Lucius
Rosaline
Hogan
Shemira
Try swapping the frontline if it doesn't work. And try to level up shemira (or if you got saveas then saveas, he's a carry for early game)
will try but need to grind so I can level them up , thanks
20-24
Guessing no ascending but thought I'd ask you guys just in case. I'm kindof waiting at this point for more fodder
@last granite
Like this?
Getting my butt kicked here.
19-12
@honest storm more like this
Gorvo/golus
Estrilda
Mehira/rosaline
Shemira
Athalia
Gorvo/golus is not a cc/support so they can stand against athalia which stun them. Mehira's ult charmed the enemies to fight against eachother and rosaline will help shemira ults which has AoE damage.
Any ideas for this level?
@tawny jewel Lucius in place of Brutus for sure. Belinda in place of Mehira
@shy coyote this stage shouldnt be a wall. You can try Lyca replace Brutus, brutus replace tasi. Tasi and Arden either back mid/bot.
Else try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius dies in 1 second
@last granite
They get rekt too fast
So maybe I won't be able to do this right now
Thanks anyways
@tawny jewel did u swap items on him?
@tulip elm yep
Try swapoing lyca and shemira
@honest storm sorry about that, i hope someone else could help you!
@tulip elm thanks brooo i won
You’re welcome 😃
Why did putting shem in the back work?
To be honest I have no idea. I just used similar comp and it worked 😃
It might be that she doesn’t get hit so much and can survive longer
Baybe its cuz shes further away fron saveas
If you have Nemora. Try to position her in a way she charms Saveas on similar levels
@tulip elm now i am at the end of ch 14 and its filled with lbs
Right now you should level up Saveas to 160 ASAP
When you can have rest of team around 155 you can drop him
What team comp should I be using atm? Currently just beat 12-2
@white ravine go meta. Its best choice for you now
Suggestions ? tasi keeps silencing shem
Pls help me
Ay i am stuck here now :/ tasi works better vs silvina
@tawny jewel switch brutus & shemira and tasi & Arden. So brut use his ult on enemy shemira
@sand kindle doesnt work
Need help w 19-6
@tawny jewel how many do u kill? Is it soso or become worth?
@broken granite
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
I kill 1
Better help me with 21-4 😂
my mannn, took like 20 tries but i got it 😂
he's a fake
Help pls I’m stuck since 2 days
Hej, some support? 🙃
Brb 3 minutes and I try to help after
@sand kindle tasi instadies
@honest storm belinda behind estrilda
@honest storm also if you wanan go heavy lbs, reset estrilda shemira and tasi. Level then all to 80 and then max out belinda
What is meant by heavy lb? @tawny jewel
@grand dragon Make Mirael lvl 121 first. Then try:
Saveas
khasos
Silvina
brutus
Shemira
give this heroes best equip u have
@honest storm like 4 or 5 lightbearers in your team
@tawny jewel try your original lineup, but switch brut and shemira. Is shemira can stay vs Silva&Vedan?
@sand kindle yea. I will try and send you a recording
Please help
Ahhh okay
Well, it's a better idea to lvl up all, that are e+ or?
@tulip elm where do u stuck?
@sand kindle it’s 21-4
@ember oak kick rosa. Take lyca. And switch the team mirror
Okay
@tulip elm got few SS for it, let me check what fits most
Ok. Thanks 😃
@tulip elm try this
A Fawkes 
My fawkes is weaker but I think it doesn’t matter much! Thanks!
@tulip elm ye i think so. Tell me if it works
@sand kindle I’ll give it a few trys
@golden harness did you try meta? like:
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Estrilda (Lucius/Brut)
Nemora
I will try its just I don't have very high ascension levels on the backline of that comp
its ok, they dont need high lvl on this stages
@sand kindle well. It doesn’t work. I couldn’t kill even one in few try 😦
@tulip elm hmm let think about yor formation then
@tulip elm I cleared that with Lyca Brutus front Shemira Tasi and Nemora back. That needs a lot of tries.
@tulip elm try:
nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Brut
Shem
You need to kill this tree real fast, cos he will heal up the whole team
@sand kindle ok thx
Any opinions ^^
Got stuck on another boss lol
@sand kindle @pale rover will try that 😉
Need help with this one, feels like I've tried everything
@ember oak Your team doesn’t have any faction bonus. Maybe try to replace Arden with Rosa or Estrilda ?
Sure I’ll try
Nvm I got it
@lofty depot this is pretty common stage. You will meet this few more times on you way to ch 21. So here is lineup:
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Nemora need to charm Ferael only. if no - restart
Ah okay thanks!
Can someone help me with this one? Or am I just underleveled?
Oh I remember this one! Real pain
@last granite try: rosa ->Lyca and Fawkes->tasi
Maybe it will go
@sand kindle yeah it is. Someone recommend using lyca tasi nemora shemira and lucius and still wont work TvT
Personnaly I roll alot of times with:
Nemora
Shem
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
you can try this out
Is leg brutus even strong enough? I tried with him too but after ira kills whoever stands in front of her she proceed to kill brutus lol. I might hire a mercenary on monday for this 
Ye, maybe merc will help. The idea is to keep estrilda and Ira busy for long time. And he also can ult and damage ira
@sand kindle any idea who should I hire?
Brutus I think
@sand kindle okie dokie. Thank you!
@last granite or nara🤔
then you can go somthing like
nemora
Brut
Athalia/Lyca/tasi
Shem
nara
Okay brb trying the comp
O wait i dont have nara my bad
Help
16-20 is nuts
please help, cant progress and dunno why
@solid hazel try this
Nemora
Lucius
Hogan/arden
Brutus
Saveas
Hi Guys, do post both stage and your full roster together so that the people here can give you a better advise. 🙂
Maybe swap the old dude with fawkes?
Does not help
@polar harness how does it go for you using the meta team? I'd try using brute force if meta team doesnt work (i assume silvina is shredding your backline)
Fawkes
Hendrik
Rosaline/lyca
Brutus
Shemira
If anyone could help me make a formation, please. Ive been stuck for days.
Any help here?
@solid marten not sure but try this
Rosaline
Brutus
Mirael
Hogan
Athalia
Some questions here !
1- any advice for 19-6 ?
2- i have some exp to spend (for around 10-15lvl) => Estrilda or Fawks or both or Lucius ?
3- I have 300k for glad shop (where there are athalia, ezizh, fawks,....) Should i buy some one ?
Thank you ❤️
@astral marsh
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
@warm ocean You beat your thing yet?
The fuck that came out wrongly lmaooooo
as for 3rd q - I prefer to buy this way: fawkes -> grezhul -> Numisu -> athalia, but depends of your heroes
@opal gulch You just made it that way in youre mind haha
@sand kindle Lyca got OS so arden and nemo 1 seconds after :/
What bout the enemy lineup
Belinda
lucius
mehira
Hogan
Rosaline
maybe i just need to wait for a couple more levels
okay tyty
He makes iT worse
Ur Lucius got to ult/heal?
@astral marsh just roll it) Its 100% working lineup
@sand kindle I'll try it . I make my crystal 170 instead of 165
@astral marsh 161 will work too. You just need to owerlvl shem & brut.
Should i reset Lucius to make him 161~ and Brutus 180 so ?
im gonna give it a couple more days of exp - my guys get nuked still
Need help with 12-12 please
@astral marsh its good idea. Will help a lill with killing kaz
Yup. And i'm thinking about i'm at 19-6 so my line up is often with brutus and no more lucius
@astral marsh with your heroes you can rush to 20-16
How to clear?
any good combos you could suggest? and maybe a setup for wrizz (i pull 2.5 mil with shem saveas luc rosaline thane atm
@sand kindle i got tasi from pull so she is L+. Can she replace nemo or arden ?
Any tips?
Someone is able to help?
saveas
hogan
lyca
lucius
tasi
this is my main team tbh
Just got tasi, not leveled up yet rip
nemora
shemira
tasi
lyca
arden
then u can use this whenever i was this helped a bit but lyca needs some gear to tank and shemira needs some levels
Me?
@honest storm try what i said to the guy above but luc/grovo/athalia rotations
Help meh my lords
@ember oak yeah
@deep temple what do you mean with that rotation?
Sry
My tali is lvl 1
@honest storm i mean because u dont have tasi try those instead of her
I have tasi on lvl 90 @deep temple
you will crystal her eventually @opal gulch do the silvinas jump your tasi or arden?
I made it so they jump on tasi
oh snap just saw that @honest storm yeah use the same then tasi arden nem back lyca shem front
@opal gulch then maybe try nem against that isa? i dont know really maybe u can try the meta line up as well too
Aight I'll try thanks ;)
it usually works when im extra stuck
That lineup didn’t work. Anything else?
do some tries mate there is so much cc in that line up u may just need the right rng @ember oak
But my tasi is lvl 1 she dies in seconds
Too low lvl I think...
Will try it some other day haha
@ember oak how many times have u tried? Battles ends up in different ways based on RNG
And AFK if it doesn't work
i said u will crystal her eventually i didnt say now
Oh ok, ty
Help please
actually get that estrilda off the crystal shes too squishy till far later in the game @ember oak
@pale thunder Brutus Shem wilders trio and let rng do it's job
Wilders trio is nemora tasi and lyca?
@pale thunder totally put nemora against that ferael
@deep temple running out time lol
Ok
Thanks guys
This one is giving me trouble. Nemora is being stubborn and not charming the hunter. Any help is great t.t
@pale thunder yes, or lyca Arden nemora, or lyca Arden tasi. Try these 3 keep repeating
@honest storm hmm maybe upgrade some gear your low level u can throw a star here and there
@rustic field try again. Let rng do its thing xD wait till she charms the right prson and see what happens
I'll try thanks!
GUYS WILDERS TRIO IS A GOOD LAYOUT BUT REQUIRES NEAR PERFECT RNG FOR IT TO WORK SO IF U WANT TO USE WILDERS TRIO BE PREPARED TO TRY AGAIN HUNDREDS OF TIMES
true sometimes tho if u hit a wall even best rng wont help u
Yup. At those times AFK will be the only thing u could do
any suggestions on wrizz line up btw? got 2.8 mil with sav shem luc rosaline and thane
@deep temple should I use the grey, green and blue equipment to lvl this up?
yeah in this order
dont overdo it tho cuz it costs more the further you go spread your upgrades along your gear
I wouldnt upgrade too often/much, because I eventually ran out of gold because of that
@last granite I'm trying
Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Shemira
Tasi
Got quite close a few times, but niru is hard
@deep temple For Wrizz, I would drop Saveas or Shem and put Belinda for 4-1 faction bonus. Whichever gives higher numbers(Which will probably be Saveas at that point). Also give Dura's call to Lucius if you want to auto it, but you want to make sure he is ulting right before Wrizz ults
@opal gulch thx man I did it, I was stuck from a week
@pale thunder gz gz @jade wedge what would u say about kaz or elreon that ive got out of the crystal instead of thane? that would make belinda nemora i guess? also soren youd say the same line up?
i always suggest nemora against ferael as the charm does so much work when it hits
http://prntscr.com/otft0j http://prntscr.com/otfts6 any idea for for a lineup overhere guys?
@deep temple Kaz sucks on Wrizz until 181 and she gradually starts getting really good on him. Eironn is above average, so not really worth. If you dont like Thane, Estrilda isnt bad, but tbh your Rosaline will be doing the most if not close to the most damage
rosaline ?!?! really??
@real palm I would try Shemira, Lucius, Arden, Nemora, Lyca in that order. I feel like Shemira will melt your Lucius if he’s in front of her
@deep temple She does a surprisingly high amount of damage in long fights.
huh okay never noticed very nice
@whole granite one thing you should practice doing is not raising heroes to L, unless they can either go straight to L+ or they are such a good hero, they need to be as strong as possible(like Lucius or Shemira) its a waste of fodder, unless you spend money on the game, then do what you want.
But as for your team, Try Brutus, Estrilda, Saveas, Rowan, Fawkes in that order
y banana I know I have done 2 many mistakes when it comes to ascension mostly because lack of knowledge....
@deep temple This damage isnt optimized, but look at hers compared to the others
oh right about the carry stuff, I just reached chapter 12, should I still look for getting saves to L+ ?
or should I just wait for shemira to get to mythic
damn thats even more than thane lol
He’s helpful for a while and you still gotta use him as food for Brutus eventually, so yes L+
kk bet
@deep temple Baden and Thane’s gears are way better than hers also. And she’s still only E
Do i even try to roll this?
Where there’s a will, there’s a way
Totally innocent question w@tawny jewel Migh as well try
Some problem here xD so frustrating when niru heal all life when He is 1hp
Fail link screen. My Tasi is L+
@astral marsh Swap Arden for Nemora -- charm enemy Ferael.
Make sure that : He will interrupt himself using the "Terrorize" attack, and you should be fine.
My Tasi was L when I passed this -- Nemora is the solution.
Okep I was on the good way so. I swapped arden for nemora because i think the charm is the key too. I will do a couple of tries ! Thanks
Best of luck to you! 
@last igloo Hello
May you use #classic-chat or #545919777907015684 depending on the subject you're speaking of -.. This is the wrong channel for casual discussions, hope you understand! ^^
@wise merlin May be i will swap tasi for Arden, because Tasi always ban ferael so nemo can't charm him xD
@astral marsh That could work.., just make sure Arden doesn't root Ferael.
@last igloo @last igloo @wise merlin hello sir irk how use this lool
The wilder's RNG hehe
I just can’t do it, please I need a different lineup
Am I just seriously underleveled for 15-40? 😅😜 plz help 🙏
1-5: Sham, tank (Lucius/brut...), Arden, Nemora, Lyca. Charm ferael. Roll till win
It is not better Sham face Niru and tank face Grezhul ?
Definitely 😂
Tried that like 100zillions times.. guess I’ll have to try again and again
@astral marsh no)
@wise merlin It work !
@sand kindle my shem is smashed fast when facing grez
Arden will help her
19-8 (or 9 i dotn remember) is the same team and i faced Niru with Shem and Brutus Grzehul and it work very well (instead of brutus-shem). Niru can't deal with shemira/lyca on him
The best lineup is working one) so if it works - awesome!
Yeap ! There is no perfect one. Just need to have the victory screen !
Help please
@astral marsh Nice! 😄
Ok thx guys I’ll try again 😅
Anybody has ideas for lineups?
20-37?
I've been hard stuck for a week any suggestions?
Your lineup seems ok. Probably need lvl up
The perfect plan is make crystal lvl 180 and Shem 220 and after it, up other heroes ?
yea, it is the best idea so far
Stuck at 14-40. Is there a way to beat it ?
Brutu Shem Arden Lyca Nemora (1-5) ?
Any Brutus/Shem front and a combination of wilders back doesn’t work unfortunately :/
Shem gets hard CC by Hogan or Esteilda
@uncut sapphire Switch brut & Lyca and charm Mirael by Nemora
I have tried that already :/
I even tried swaping Arden and Nem
Try again and again, wilder RNG :/
Yep I’ve been at it for a while haha. Was wondering if I should use other heroes
@uncut sapphire Try
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Are you a wizard ? I thought I had tried every combination but this worked on the first try
Thank you ! :)
And thanks @sand kindle and @astral marsh for your help too
Nice one ! gz
Stuck at 11-28. My stuff get insta kill by Saveas. Should I reset my heroes and relevel something else?
@uncut sapphire are you f2p?
Yes
@terse quail show roster as well
@terse quail Show us the rest of your heroes
Tried the setup from last night.. didnt work well xD did some more upgrades on the heroes..
@terse quail are you close to 141 arden?
Hang on trying to upload my roster it exceed 8mb size limit 😦
@terse quail how
Yet I have no idea how to fix it now 🙄
Can someone help me with 12-12 please?
@sly sparrow nemora should be opposite to saveas