@foggy crane What CH/Stage?
#lineup-help
mild wing
foggy crane
21 -10
sand kindle
@mild wing yea would be very thankful. You can send me in game pm, I send you friend request
foggy crane
That's not my final lineup I was just trying random stuff lmao.
mild wing
@sand kindle they changed that mines totally diff I got saved
foggy crane
Eironn sucks the front 2 and back middle in at the beginning it makes it impossible
sand kindle
@mild wing yea. I remember few tasi there
foggy crane
@sand kindle @mild wing
Look at this nonsense
pale kettle
Got to 7-40 @sand kindle . 8)
sand kindle
@foggy crane oh I see. Replace shemira and Arden. Let ur Arden root enemies
@pale kettle nice one) I trust You can handle this level
@pale kettle try to use twins instead Arden. And switch Belinda with Lucius. Probably u can level up her to 121?
pale kettle
Not quite sure. Formation gets wrecked no matter what position. Got the rest of my heroes on the crystal though
Shemira looking fly. I could leg her, or thoran / silvina but that would cost either 2 of em.
slow pivot
11-40 any tips?
sand kindle
@pale kettle no way mate. Read pinned messages in #classic-questions
pale kettle
Yeah i wont do that, trust me. I need to focus on labyrinth for the l sav though
sand kindle
@slow pivot saveas 160 instead shemira and switch their positions
slow pivot
Ok I’ll give that a go
mild wing
@sand kindle 26-21
sand kindle
@slow pivot also make Arden 141 as fast as u can
slow pivot
Thanks
sand kindle
@mild wing niiice) you are a monster huh
pale kettle
I dont get the pinned ascendant message.
crude hinge
can anyone help? 21-10
mild wing
@sand kindle Just a tiny one
foggy crane
@crude hinge Do you have athalia?
crude hinge
yeeeee @foggy crane
warm ocean
20-19 crying 😃 @mild wing
olive fossil
Help on 6-36 brutus wrecks my team
warm ocean
@olive fossil show the level @next raven don't use shem till she's 161 do you have tasi instead ? Or a Saveas
next raven
I have a legendary Tasi
warm ocean
@mild wing can you help me on mine situation since @clear saddle can't 😃
Try
Nem
Brutus
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi
@next raven
olive fossil
Here it is 😃
mild wing
@warm ocean What your situation
next raven
Unfortunately I foddered my saveas for mythic Brutus
warm ocean
@mild wing I posted it up 20-19
pale oracle
need help on 12-40
mild wing
looking for the pic @warm ocean
warm ocean
@olive fossil swap Belinda dm Saveas spots and try that
@mild wing edited and tagged you in so you can find it or just want me to post again
mild wing
@warm ocean Mine was Brutus Lyca Shem Tasi Nemora
warm ocean
Is that the 1-5 ?
olive fossil
Even worse
mild wing
yes with grace on lyca
olive fossil
His ult pops earlier
warm ocean
What relics does everyone else use ? I have vitality and back
Why Grace on lyca ?
mild wing
Donno just know grace
warm ocean
The ult one ? The ult shield ? @mild wing
olive fossil
His beyblade attack
warm ocean
@olive fossil do you have the resonating crystal yet ?
olive fossil
Yes
untold maple
this stage is cancer. assistance?
warm ocean
@olive fossil try Rosaline not Angelo and put Saveas at the top Belinda mid and Rosalie. Bot
mild wing
@warm ocean Yeah the one with dodge
astral lark
Any ideas here?
mild wing
@warm ocean You try?
warm ocean
About too, nem lyca and sometimes tasi, just auto die @mild wing
cold marten
Any ideas? I’m stuck and I keep getting closer and closer but I still die 😔
mild wing
@warm ocean hmm
warm ocean
I'm legit just trying any 3 with Shem Brutus
indigo jolt
@warm ocean Line up again?
warm ocean
20-19 @indigo jolt
obsidian bridge
I don’t know why 18-12 is giving me so much trouble
plush wren
Any help would be amazing
indigo jolt
Shem Brutus front.
Arden Tasi Lyca back,
@warm ocean
warm ocean
The thing with Shem front top is Ira bleed shows her down
indigo jolt
Shouldnt matter that much with right cc.
humble zenith
hey guys, any help?
warm ocean
@indigo jolt yeah that doesn't work, after she sleeps khasos arden walks forwards and dies to Ira,
No one root
indigo jolt
@warm ocean Arden get 2nd root off or not?
Try switch boots so that he does.
warm ocean
@indigo jolt no second root
molten brook
pale kettle
Anyone have any advice on my lineup?
molten brook
pale kettle
@molten brook hey there
molten brook
Help. 😞
pale kettle
Reunion
humble zenith
i think u need to put lucius to crystall and use him
warm ocean
@indigo jolt all my mages have M 4 star boots swapping those is nothing
molten brook
I'll put him back on. Thanks
warm ocean
@molten brook who does that silvana jump too
molten brook
Rowan or Tasi @warm ocean
warm ocean
She will jump to the same target, lowest def mage, so is it tasi or Rowan
molten brook
I've tried a bunch of heroes and positions. One sec
indigo jolt
@warm ocean :o.
If it simply doesnt work, maybe try.
With tasi and arden postions swapped then, will need more ng for roots then.
molten brook
@warm ocean Rowan. But he's immune to her. My biggest issue is Brutus
humble zenith
and then
tasi
lucius
belinda
hendrick
arden/sav idk maybe it will work@molten brook
indigo jolt
@obsidian bridge I ran
Lyca
Shem ( may need chalice if not tanky enough)
Arden (need to root Kaz and arden)
Brutus
Tasi
molten brook
@humble zenith - thanks. I'll keep trying
pale kettle
@molten brook dont look in the guild chat. Just dont
16-12
Any advice? I’ve plateau and I want to see if it’s my level choices or just toons themselves
simple remnant
Stuck on 6-20 plsss help
limpid quail
Amy ideas for 14-36
@simple remnant i think you need at least your Carry on Higher Levels than the enemys
warm ocean
20-20 help 😃
toxic ravine
Not sure what to do for progression
warm ocean
20-20
terse bison
@warm ocean first of all don't post multiple times in such a short amount of times lmao
2ndly, try
Arden
Lucius
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
midnight solar
Cant beat 6-12. Can I have a little help? Which 5 champs should I focus?
visual quiver
would be good to know what the opponents on 6-12 are
warm ocean
@terse bison I meant to post a different picture the first time, brain went to auto pilot
midnight solar
Sorry. Here is the enemy line up
warm ocean
@terse bison that's worse honestly, lyca and Arden die way faster this way
terse bison
Rip, was hoping Lucius would get his shield out
tawny jewel
@simple remnant hm can u show all your roster?
warm ocean
And just Brutus claps Shem in like 4 hits too
shy coyote
19-7
sly sparrow
Can you please help me? King Tower 149
stone geode
16-4 (shemira is boss) think I'm just under leveled tbh. Tried various formations over last few days
simple remnant
@tawny jewel actually I got past that I’m now stuck on 6-28
split prairie
Trying to bust this level, any recommendations
sly sparrow
@warm ocean can ya help me please
warm ocean
@sly sparrow your Arden roots 3 correct ?
sly sparrow
Nope only two he isnt 141
warm ocean
Try and make him 141 somehow the 3 roots is kinda game changer
@stone geode swap brutus and Shem places, and Arden needs to root estrilda 100% and grezhul if possible
stone geode
hmm, think i tried that but i'll give it some more retries, ty
tawny jewel
@simple remnant okay so, why do u have 6 characters lvled up. Reset the lvl 64 character and reset athalia. Put athalia in crystal and lvl saveas to lvl 100 and focus on asce ding him. You should always lvl only 5 characters. Then use
Belinda
Saveas
Athalia
Brutus
The celestial twins
sly sparrow
@warm ocean lol i did it
sudden cedar
@split prairie switch belinda for brutus then switch belinda for shemira
junior wasp
How can i beat this peaks of time stage?
split prairie
@tawny jewel he has 8 characters leveled up
sly sparrow
Can someone help me with floor 150 please? Its king tower and i need to complete it
warm ocean
20-20 isn't fun either 😃
tawny jewel
@split prairie lol. I saw the 6th and i was like it cant be worse
warm ocean
When I still have 2 open crystal slots to use 😃
tawny jewel
@simple remnant also reset hogan and ira :/
simple remnant
@tawny jewel saveas is a backline hero right?
split prairie
@sudden cedar I'll give that a go for a few hours
sly sparrow
@warm ocean lol i see... but dw you can do it!
tawny jewel
@simple remnant yes but he can work in the front line too.
simple remnant
@tawny jewel so should I have athalia frontline or saveas in this case
@tawny jewel also I thought that saveas can only go up to legendary plus and not ascended so how good is he
tawny jewel
Saveas in this case. Athalia is backline mostly cuz she jumps on the enemy in the same position as her(a backline carry)
sly sparrow
@tawny jewel hey dude can you help me please? D: i need to finish king tower 150
tawny jewel
@simple remnant yes. You should replace him when you reach ch 14 or so. He falls off by then, start buying shemira from labyrinth shop. She will do for dps later on :)
@sly sparrow whats up bro?
simple remnant
@tawny jewel got it, thanks a lot
sly sparrow
@tawny jewel this haha
tawny jewel
@sly sparrow i will have to go now tho.. i will give u a quick tip and we can talk later
sly sparrow
Sure sure
tawny jewel
@sly sparrow i think
Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Would work better. Aim for charm on brutus. Gl
pale kettle
Can anyone help with some advice please?
indigo jolt
@warm ocean What succeeded on 20-19?
bold musk
@pale kettle i would wait a bit and get the lvl 80 up to 100 and get more wilders in for the bonus or maulders
honest storm
Should I lvl up the tanks when Tasi reached 81?
They get killed so fast and I can't pass this god damn stage
indigo jolt
@celest trail Rest of roster? Lyca is essential vs enemy lyca.
limpid quail
Anybody can Help at 14-36?
ember oak
@honest storm I feel you.. My Lucius also dies fast, just got Saveas to 100 so gonna get him to elite+ soon and I've been told to upgrade Lucius a lot and afk a bit
pale kettle
@bold musk should I instead use Nemora to give the faction bonus?
indigo jolt
E should work, you mainly need for the haste. So that your cc can compete with enemies. @celest trail
Try
Nem/Arden
Shem
Tasi
Lyca
Lucius
warm ocean
20-20 😃
honest storm
Well @ember oak
Okay, thanks!
I consider pull out all points from brutus and put them into hogan
bold musk
@pale kettle nemora is crazy good so I would advice it
ember oak
I mean, you can try that and if it doesn't work reset it back to brutus maybe. I don't really like hogan personally.
pale kettle
@bold musk should I replace her for Belinda?
indigo jolt
@warm ocean That a success?
@limpid quail
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
warm ocean
No it's not still stuck
celest trail
@indigo jolt That worked, you are a genius!
indigo jolt
@celest trail You have higher power than me, just a matter of finding a decent setup.
pale kettle
visual quiver
Any tips? Tried sav backline, lyca instead of arden, etc. nothing seems to work
limpid quail
@indigo jolt thanks that lineup took me through zhe Rest of 14 👌
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Would try with gearing Tasi to have lowest defence.
Tasi
Shem
Nemora/Lyca
Lucius
Arden
pale kettle
@indigo jolt tasi dies because of vurk
indigo jolt
Switch Tasi and Ardens positon.
pale kettle
Changed tasi with lyca seems doable now, Arden has to be there or mid for isabella
indigo jolt
ok:) gl.
sly sparrow
Can someone help me please? King Tower 150
vernal berry
Need help because vurk kills everyone except shemira
indigo jolt
@vernal berry Charm vurk so his poison no longer pops on your team.
sly sparrow
Oo i see king tower too lol
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Try
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
sly sparrow
@indigo jolt can you help me too please? I need to beat the stage D:
vernal berry
@indigo jolt better but still not a victory
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow Patience. lol..
sly sparrow
Well thanks
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow Rest of roster?
sly sparrow
Jk its fine lol... im probs underleveled and the enemies look scary
indigo jolt
@vernal berry You tried meta? or with 4 wilders + Shem.
vernal berry
Vurk deletes them
sly sparrow
Wilders are weak against Maulers
vernal berry
And khasos
pale kettle
Everyone is strong against maulers)
indigo jolt
I know, i cant judge if they survive long enough to be useful from a picture though..
@sly sparrow Maybe try Sav Brutus front, Fakwes Nem Arden back. Dependign on who he coffins.
kindred basalt
Not sure if anyone can help but here is current line up. Iv just hit a wall and obviously cant do much more until I can ascend hero’s. By chance do I have a better line up with others in my pool?
indigo jolt
@vernal berry Maybe just try switching Shems position around with that setup, otherwise not sure.
@pale kettle Switch Arden and Tasi's positon then, see if it improves.
sly sparrow
@indigo jolt he coffins Khasos but it doesnt matter my whole team dies
jade wedge
Any ideas
indigo jolt
@kindred basalt I would put Tasi in your crystal, otherwise with current heroes.
Try
Golus instead of hogan and belinda in for numisu.
humble zenith
any suggestions?
plucky flint
Any thoughts here? Just need higher crystal? Or a change in relic allocation? Currently have blade on shem, call on tasi, chalice on nem, drape on brutus, eye on lyca
indigo jolt
@plucky flint Id try this or it flipped. Give lyca grace.
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi
shy coyote
19-7
clear saddle
@plucky flint try this? My Shem broke 201 tho
indigo jolt
@shy coyote
Shem
lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
pulsar breach
15-40 is unbeatable... At least until I hire someone on Sunday. :/
spare hinge
Any ideas on 8-40?
vernal berry
Wha...not again😤 need help
plucky flint
@clear saddle I’m pretty sure it’s possible with 200 shem. Was hoping there was some micro adjustment I could make. I like nem top left because she needs to charm Brutus and it reduces the rng of that, but I’ll try center and see if that offers anything different.
@indigo jolt Shem needs to be in the 1 spot or Isabella will always hit tasi with her opening bolt, killing her before she can jump. I have no idea why the mechanics work out that way, but tasi always dies if I move Shem anywhere else
indigo jolt
@plucky flint Ok just switch lyca and SHems positions?
grand dragon
Help pls. Stuck here since 1 1/2 days
indigo jolt
@vernal berry Drop raine for Nemora,, charm on fereal is go to against him.
clear saddle
Wait @plucky flint nvm that’s the wrong one lol
I usually don’t run Shem into Brutus
gilded pasture
Any suggestion? 🤔
plucky flint
@clear saddle me neither. But it kinda works because nem charms Brutus who runs down to golus after tasi phases vurk
clear saddle
I think that’s the setup I ran as well. But usually if I’m up against golus, i like to run Shem with Arden supporting her
plucky flint
@clear saddle I tried arden but silv is the problem. If my tasi is weaker than him she gets one shot
hushed ermine
What can i do ?
foggy isle
Any advice? Or am I just waiting for fodder and higher leveled heroes now?
fringe pond
still oar
@gilded pasture think you can put call on nem or Shem tho. Probably didn't change the arts after beating the previous stage
fringe pond
Hey y'all, I'm confused on a more basic level as in..who do I use, I'm stuck af vs vedan in ch9, rowan see to counter silvina for me fine since he can use energy to avoid dyin
median shell
I'm running brutus, nemora, tasi, lyca and saveas currently, could I make any changes to improve my team? Saveas isn't really doing so well anymore, I just completed 13-16
maiden quest
@median shell you'll want to try and transition to Mythic (level 161+) Shemira as soon as possible
also try and get Arden to 141 if you can
steep cape
@median shell get Arden in your team instead of tasi. I personally prefer him over her in most fights. Also get kaz in resonator. She will wreck graveborn teams once she’s past 160. Run athalia when a cc unit needs to be stopped in place if probably nemora
mellow hound
Any recommendations? I've tried everything
versed canopy
Hi any advice for 17-36 ?
clear saddle
@versed canopy think better for you to run Arden bottom. All the high priority targets are down there
maiden quest
@mellow hound I'd try swapping Saveas and Brutus and using Lyca instead of Nemora
tawny jewel
@mellow hound use
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Saveas
Arden
This should do it. Retry alot of times too
mellow hound
@tawny jewel ive guarenteed ive tried that lineup but ill try
tawny jewel
Nemora should charm golus. Btw its just my opinion:// i may be wrong. Try pandas idea too
clear saddle
@versed canopy does your Brutus or Lucius survive longer?
maiden quest
@versed canopy how does Athalia instead of Tasi work? at the bottom, where the enemy Arden is
mellow hound
Im barely killing 1 enemy this this setup @tawny jewel
But Lyca instead of Nemora worked @maiden quest
gilded pasture
@still oar yea I don't have arden. Kept getting him and used him as fodder and then they stopped spawning ardens for me xD
versed canopy
@clear saddle Lucius definetely but arden bot did the job thanks ! @maiden quest didnt try athalia bot i'll give it a try if 17-40 is the same fight
still oar
You can try eironn, it might work @gilded pasture
pale kettle
I need some help with this stage im stuck at. Does anyone has tips/feedback on which heroes to use against them? Or do i need to wait to be able to level them up more? Ect
tawny jewel
I am in need of great assistance
pale kettle
pale kettle
I was told to overlevel her, she is pretty overpowered like that. But if you feel like giving me another comp to work with, i would be glad to try it
maiden quest
Shemira is definitely overpowered... once she's 161+ and has mythic equipment, but not before that
tawny jewel
For now you can use belinda carry since saveas is only elite
woven scarab
Ulmus, Athalia, Lucis, Belinda, Nemora
tawny jewel
Get belinda to 120 and use
Belinda,hogan,estrilda,twins,mehira
woven scarab
Any thoughts?
pale kettle
I will make it happen, thank you takez
steel fox
Any other suggestions as front lines or leveling up different
tawny jewel
Thats my dream team so i am biased. I recommend hogan since u have no lucius and you can easily get him to l+. Belinda should be always behind estrilda(not middle back) and mehira should always be in the middle
woven scarab
@steel fox how u have 6Mil gold
tawny jewel
Thats what i would do :) (my opinion)
pale kettle
I will reset and relevel, give me a few minutes 😛
woven scarab
Ulmus, Athalia, Lucis, Belinda, Nemora is this any good?
steel fox
Cuz I’m a good better
maiden quest
@steel fox Hogan instead of Estrilda and Arden instead of Shemira (both Shemira and Estrilda aren't useful until higher levels)
steel fox
Thank you
tawny jewel
@pale kettle you could also use brutus instead of estrilda
@pale kettle but i passed early game with belinda estrilda lucius mehira and fawkes and it worked so idk
@woven scarab ulmus early game is meh
woven scarab
Um... all wilders are weak past lvl 200
tawny jewel
@woven scarabyou mean before lvl 200?
pale kettle
I will try estrilda first, i will reset her if needed
maiden quest
lol what, no
woven scarab
@tawny jewel yeah sry
tawny jewel
@pale kettle okay bro @woven scarabwilders are always useful and arden lvl 141 is a big power spike so no
Also lyca is rly good at all lvls
woven scarab
Wilders aren't good early lvls reglly
tawny jewel
@woven scarab but they are
woven scarab
But after lvl 200.. they are too OP. I have kaz and she cant do anything rn
tawny jewel
@woven scarab yea kaz. Kaz is useful past 220.
maiden quest
you can't compare Ascended heroes with Legendary heroes because they have an entire extra skill to level, so obviously Legendary heroes have a much earlier power curve
woven scarab
Just tell me one thing.. when u'll reach the line where u must use 1M hero EXP to lvl up once?
rustic barn
1 million??
woven scarab
At lvl 130 i use 0.4M
tawny jewel
@maiden quest i was just giving arden as an example since he said wilders are bad before lvl 200
pale kettle
That silvina goes after the twins first.
maiden quest
I wasn't objecting to your comment
tawny jewel
@woven scarab my shem is lvl 170 and i need 850k
woven scarab
So basicly after lvl 190 or around u'll need 1Mil exp to lvl up. Nice
rustic barn
I actually never paid attention but yeah prolly after 180+? You’ll need a million
tawny jewel
@maiden quest oh ok mb
maiden quest
indigo jolt
@woven scarab Around 190. 199-200 is 1.368M
brisk tapir
pale kettle
@tawny jewel Ran that comp in different formations, did not get me through that stage. It is a nice team though, but its underleveled i think.
rustic barn
Any ideas??
tawny jewel
@pale kettle i was worried the team wouldnt be good enough. Did you try to replace estrilda with brutus?
pale kettle
Running it through right now
frank moss
@tawny jewel did anyone answer your lineup help
night flint
@rustic barn try nemora instead of tasi and put her vs arden to charm is and Your arden vs Ira like
pale kettle
One enemy left, at very low health, running it through again
tawny jewel
@frank moss nope
pale kettle
Belinda got slaughtered..
vernal berry
I'm diying and need help
tiny spoke
any ideas here gamers
(please don’t just comment i shouldn’t have this many legendaries i can’t really change it now that it’s done and it doesn’t help me 
)
frank moss
@tawny jewel put lyca in mid backline, tasi behind shem, have dura call on tasi.
tawny jewel
I already have call on tasi. I will swap them and tell u
frank moss
also if silv is jumping on tasi, you need to swap arden for nem and need to bait silv
tawny jewel
Where should tasi tp?
@frank moss silvina always goes for tasi. Shes only elite and has the lowest defence. But she can tank a hit and tp with call
rustic barn
@night flint this Kaz is just melting everyone
frank moss
need to get a better tasi from merc or swap out nem for arden to bait tasi. Silv jumps to target with lowest ARMOR, so nems armor has to be lower than tasi
hushed girder
what to do?
night flint
and try Brutus vs kaz and Shemira vs Ogri
tawny jewel
@frank moss so whats the lineup. Nemora without gear has less armor
rustic barn
Aight
frank moss
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Nem
frank moss
she cant soak some dmg to ult?
tawny jewel
Nope. She doesnt get to ult and tasi is at 3/4 energy when shem dies
odd rapids
got my shemira to 180, have a nemora and safiya at M 161, a brutus L+ AT 160, and a warek L+ at 151, should I raise the warek to 160 or focus on getting safiya and nemora to 180?
maiden quest
@odd rapids if you have the essence, I'd say either M+ Shem and get her to whatever, or try and get everyone else to 161 if you have enough Mythics
@tawny jewel you need more mythic gear on Shem --- particularly weapon and boots --- to really have her carry you
tawny jewel
I think i might need to afk thisone if i am being honest
@maiden quest i need 2k guild coins to buy boots. I heard that boots is priority then hat then staff then chest
odd rapids
shem is maxed out right now and waiting for fodder, just wondering if boosting the lower lvls or boosting the the other mythics will give me some extra help, barely scrape on ch 14
maiden quest
sometimes you just run up against walls that strategy won't solve
@odd rapids you should be farther than that; is your Shem not geared?
@tawny jewel I would say weapon is priority over hat
tawny jewel
But what about boots? @maiden quest
odd rapids
sadly not really one mythic piece so far, did not know to save on the guild store for the mythic gear so playing catch up on that front
tawny jewel
@odd rapids same ://////
maiden quest
oh, rough; are you using good lineups on Wrizz and Soren at least? to maximize gain?
indigo jolt
Gear is not the end all you make it out to be.
tawny jewel
@hushed girder get saveas to l+ and max lvl asap
maiden quest
@tawny jewel boots over weapon probably, but it's close; I personally bought weapon first since it showed up first
tawny jewel
He is your main carry not belinda @hushed girder
maiden quest
@indigo jolt it made a big difference for me because I refused to waste gold upgrading legendary gear; gold is hard enough to come by as is
tawny jewel
@maiden quest okay
maiden quest
when you don't have VIP 6 for triple guild battle, it's hard to earn gold
odd rapids
so close to it but don't feel like dropping cash for vip6
maiden quest
you'll get it by leveling normally too
indigo jolt
@maiden quest It makes a difference but not one proper setup cant overcome in most cases. I fully invested in sav till ch 15 with my coins, and shemira was still able to make me progress when i finally gto her with only 1 M peice, only on full M gear for her now in ch 19.
odd rapids
yea i know but 10 lvls away and thats like 2 weeks
maiden quest
@indigo jolt that very much requires luck with other heroes, though; I haven't had any so Shemira has had to forcefully carry me 😛
tawny jewel
I am posting this for the last time and then i will just afk it cuz i think its not possible with less than 300 retries.
indigo jolt
@tawny jewel I think i cheesed that with nara, thoran.
maiden quest
I would also put Shem on Grez instead of Vedan
odd rapids
rosaline and shem also make a stupid combo
maiden quest
Rosaline got me through all of C14 but just dies too easily now, in C16 😦
tawny jewel
Nope doesnt work :((
indigo jolt
Nvm i just checked did that stage with Sav Brut 3 wilders..
tawny jewel
Well i have saveas as well. Maybe using both sav and shem
maiden quest
what stage is that?
tawny jewel
14-16
maiden quest
and how do you even check what you used before
tawny jewel
Wdym?
indigo jolt
I take screenshots.
maiden quest
ahh lol
tawny jewel
I remember the combinations. I used shem brutus and 3 wilders back in all orders xD. I worked my ass off on this stage. Actually the hardest 1 i have encountered
indigo jolt
Try Shem Brutus, Lyca Nemora Arden
tawny jewel
I also used 4 wilders with lyca. I am desparate so i am trying to consider eironn...
@indigo jolt tried it bro. But tasi is better than nemora. There is a 2% chance tasi will get ult while shem is still alive
That happened to me 3 times but it seems i need even more rng after that
woven scarab
indigo jolt
Drop lyca for tasi maybe.
woven scarab
Guess the hero
tawny jewel
Shemira doesnt get to ult @indigo jolt
odd rapids
the horn and frontline is the best way to force that ult, provided she can live
tawny jewel
@odd rapids idk horn on tasi seems to be more useful. She can ult tho its just that she doesnt survive double vedan ult
odd rapids
I don't use tasi these days, i see you have a rosaline and lucius, rosaline can boost shemira and lightbringer group boost
tawny jewel
I need tasi to tp behind isabella force both vedan ults to go on her , dodge them by tping back to my back line , while arden roots vedans and i get lucky crits and brutus gets ult off
@odd rapids i also use mehira. I find more success with her than tasi tbh,but everyone seems to have such a strong opinion on tasi
indigo jolt
Not everyone has mehira to test lol..
odd rapids
got one and its hit or miss on my end but she is E so not exactly a good test stuck at 14-38
tawny jewel
I have her as e+
odd rapids
if you can keep the 3+ bonus and add mehira you might have something
tawny jewel
With call she can get her minions off even if silvina jumps on her
odd rapids
worst case it may be just getting shem to 180 and get some lvls into other core members
tawny jewel
odd rapids
the wait is annoying I know but I could barely dredge through 14 until everyone was 150 avg and shem 180
tawny jewel
Nah . Top side dies in 1 second
odd rapids
also you need a slightly tankier unit up front there
tawny jewel
@odd rapids yea i recently got shem and she is underlvled
@odd rapids i refuse to believe that that stage is possible with my current lvls. How do i get a tankier unit? Lvl up brutus to 150?
odd rapids
whats the stat line on nemora, i don't have a usable lyca but i know nemora is tanky for what she is supposed to be
tawny jewel
odd rapids
or just brutus in there and ditch the mehira
tawny jewel
I was thinking about using rownan rosaline and lucius to get faction bonus and lyca for haste
But its gv so they will die too fast
Also i am kinda sad with my wilder pulls.
odd rapids
yea that spot of being so close to a mythic and not is frustrating
tawny jewel
I just got 8 useless early game pulls with kaz and eironn
odd rapids
they are hardly useless, they are good just not autowin like shem
tawny jewel
@odd rapids nah they are top tier late game from what people told me, but for now they rely on dodge gear..
hushed girder
@tawny jewel im making all my heroes higher tier using other heroes i dont use.
odd rapids
careful with ascended heroes apparently endgame lvling depends on the number of those you have
west flame
hushed girder
@west flame put fawkes behind lucius so he can put vamp guy or niru in coffin so it mitigates damage and remove belinda and put in savaes in
steel moat
Could i get some help on this stage? If i use the meta team my backline gets wiped instantly but this isn't working either
@west flame have you tried switching your frontline positions and swapping belinda for saveas?
ember bane
@clear saddle tower 219 need advice plz ty
clear saddle
steel moat
I forgot my hero list 
clear saddle
@ember bane maybe Belinda instead of rowan
ember bane
Ok ty
twin crypt
Honestly your options are kinda limited there @topaz topaz but Ulmus, Kaz, and Nem should probably be in your lineup for now.
topaz topaz
Aight
ember bane
@clear saddle 220 floor
main grove
@pliant jetty bless my account with one brutus please IGN: Delon
warm ocean
@ember bane make sure you show me 221 if you can beat it
silent wraith
@steel moat try this, if I recall, khasos gets banished, your shem needs to be tanky enuff to take hits, arden will help control bottom
steel moat
Alright thanks i'll try it out!
indigo jolt
@steel moat I ran same as above but with arden middle..
warm ocean
Ummm sir, that do not work, shem gets killed cause lyca dies
steel moat
Surprisingly my legendary brutus can tank better than mythic+ shemira 
clear saddle
Rng the dodge, mine dodged 4 times. Also, don’t cry at the restaurant pls 😉
silent wraith
@clear saddle my final team for ch20, you can do it bro
clear saddle
@warm ocean if your lyca can dodge 3 times, then your tasi ult will save the day. @silent wraith thanks bb, but I’m stuck on first ulmus stage
steel moat
Haha beat it @silent wraith ! I had to frontline lyca because my shem isn't tanky enough to frontline 
thank you!
ember bane
@warm ocean floor 221
plucky flint
@silent wraith have any tips for this one? 20-16
ember bane
@warm ocean floor 222
clear saddle
I forgot to ss 20-16
craggy talon
Any ideas
silent wraith
@plucky flint thats right linup, just keep resetting until nemo charms brutus, silva and everybody will converge bottom alllowing your shem to roam free top
clear saddle
Need rng for Brutus ult tho, pretty sure it shreds through anything
ember bane
@clear saddle 20-20 need advice plz ty
onyx blaze
Anyone got some tips?
clear saddle
@onyx blaze get an arden buddy and use him instead of Lucius. Lower tasi defence so she gets jumped
onyx blaze
@clear saddle who should i remove?
clear saddle
Lucius
plucky flint
@silent wraith which relics? Shem and/or tasi keep dying juuuuust before ult
onyx blaze
@clear saddle my arden weak thats why i dont like using him.. thx for the help again man 😃
silent wraith
shemira- blade
lyca- grace
tasi- call
steel moat
@silent wraith i need 3 more T__T
silent wraith
oof
indigo jolt
@steel moat Oof indeed, and i thought i had it bad needing 2.
steel moat
Yeah it feels bad man 
copper estuary
Hello need help with who to run and in what position
Been trying to find guides and what not
steel moat
Oh god i never thought i'd get stuck at 19-36 of all places but silvina keeps killing tasi and then the rest of my team falls apart even when tasi lives to get her ult off also I can't get arden's defense higher than tasi's anymore at this point
plucky flint
@steel moat I’d try shem brutus lyca nem tasi 1 through 5. Switch lyca with shem if she’s having too tough a time surviving.
clear saddle
@steel moat think u need Shem frontline, need her to get staggered then silence Isabella so that your tasi doesn’t die
acoustic hawk
What's the best lineup I can do with these units? qq kinda hit a wall at 6-20
I don't mind resetting units and leveling others instead.
steel moat
I'll try that
Ok so after tasi teleports away or dies silvina starts targeting shemira and she gets wrecked even with dura's grace
clear saddle
Need ur Brutus to tank silv
steel moat
She always runs to shemira if i have her in the frontline i tried lyca but she doesn't last long enough
Guess i'll be stuck here for a while thanks for the help though
onyx blaze
Is't even poss for me to clear this or do i need more lvl? 🤔
clear saddle
@onyx blaze run lyca into ogi with Arden middle, he should be able to root
ancient oasis
@clear saddlehey
onyx blaze
@clear saddle ily!
tall shard
Best lineup for team hunts?? Any ideas?
fierce kayak
@onyx blaze try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
@tall shard you have Rosaline right? Wrizz try
Rosaline
Shemira
Estrilda
Grezhul/warek
Belinda/raine
Baden is good too, you can try slot him in and try
tall shard
Alright, I'll need to put Rosaline in the crystal then
coral lintel
Made it to 11-36 with Brutus, Lucius front lining. Numisu, saveas and an alternating third. Seems that my Lucius just wont be able to hang much longer. Any advice?
fierce kayak
@ancient oasis Hi buddy. No no for L. Only L+. You can read the tips at pinned message #classic-questions, top right.
@coral lintel Hogan replace Lucius.
@coral lintel don't L heroes anymore, you can refer to pinned message #classic-questions for some tips.
Try this for now:
Sav
Brutus
Numisu/khoas
Hogan
Rosaline
Or if you need Arden/Nemora crowd control or heal
Sav
Brutus
Arden/Nem/ Athalia
Hogan
Athalia/Nem/ arden
Rowan is good too it I don't have him so not sure how he fits.
coral lintel
@fierce kayak thanks yeah I’m not L anymore and saving up my graveborn to buff my shemira to mythic and switch her out sometime soon
fierce kayak
@coral lintel sure. Mythic 161+ will then be OP, G luck buddy 🙂
coral lintel
@fierce kayak just pulled a shemira and got her to L+ and now can get her to mythic. What is required for mythic +
upbeat moat
fierce kayak
@coral lintel do note Shem should be 161+ to be really OP.
M to M+ need another random GB L+
You can go #545929173471068170 and find the info so that you can planned ahead.
sand verge
What would others recommend? Just got nem from lab shop. Was using sav, Hogan, grez, tasi, rose. Just swap nem in for rose or do i need more than one change at this stage?
pale kettle
I’m at 15-40 any suggestions?
woven sedge
What Guaranteed Purple do I try for? From the 100 opens in the tavern?
pale kettle
Lb for Lucius?
vocal saddle
Any recommendations for Wrizz and Soren with my heroes?
stiff pebble
soren, use grezhul over fawkes. the spawned minions turn him around, and he mind controls them instead.
cosmic quartz
What should I upgrade? I'm at 6-29 and don't know much about the game
I wanted a campaign focused lineup, until I read all the guides to better understand pvp and guild raids
stiff pebble
Saveas is a solid early game unit, and will help you out a lot. always look to upgrade shemira as she pops off late game. you're lacking frontline, so look to fill in the spot with a mauler or lightbearer
cosmic quartz
Which ones would you recommend for the Frontline?
stiff pebble
lucius/estrilda for light, hogan works alright if you just want to fill for faction bonus. Brutus would be ideal, but Golus isn't bad as an early game unit
cosmic quartz
I don't have any of those, right? Don't know the names yet
topaz tangle
stiff pebble
Golus is a rare mauler hero, you have him, hes the centaur
topaz tangle
Trying to beat 15-40, any advice?
oblique stone
Stuck here for a few days, any suggestion?
cosmic quartz
ooh ok, I'll level him up,
Thanks!!
stiff pebble
nem, tasi, sav, brutus, arden, tasi frontline with brutus @topaz tangle nemora, sav, arden top to bottom backline
topaz tangle
Thanks @stiff pebble I'll try it
stiff pebble
@oblique stone throw rosaline in over Ira, does she go to estrilda or shemira?
run it a few times @topaz tangle ,and watch who nemora charms. if she charms shemira watch it out and see how your team does.
topaz tangle
@stiff pebble I've ran through it like 15 times with nemo charming shemira and I'm still not winning. I might just have to wait it out for a little while and let my heroes get stronger. I'll probably also run through it more just because. Thanks for the help though!
pale kettle
@topaz tangle I have the same problem like you as well
How about this @stiff pebble still 15-40
stiff pebble
pulling up 15-40 1 sec
frontline: Lyca, Brutus Backline: Nemora, Saveas, Athalia
@pale kettle
hushed girder
any tips?
pale kettle
@stiff pebble aight I’ll give that a shot
fierce kayak
@topaz tangle nemora to charm fareal. Nemora middle back. Reset if charm fails
pale rover
@hushed girder Tough. You lack proper ascensions on tank units.. or just tank units in general.
Probably Brutus Silvina in front, Saveas Arden Nemora at the back. Nemora place in front of the other Nemora and Arden in the middle. Saveas can be behind Silvina I guess since he's less likely to die than Nemora or Arden.
fierce kayak
@pale kettle Nemora charm fareal is the key to win. Nemora middle back as well.
@oblique stone
mild wing
@fierce kayak I just did a stage with Farael and when I was doing my formation I heard you in my head
pale kettle
Aight reset until nemora charms ferael
mild wing
@pale kettle It's very strong that way
@pale rover Anyone over in your guild might have any suggestions on 26-30 I'm asking around 👌 Not even a boss.... ugh 😦
fierce kayak
@mild wing lol.. me?
mild wing
@fierce kayak That's ALWAYS your advice. Granted its good advice haha Ive seen you say that like 50 times
pale rover
@mild wing What does it look like? Also heroes?
fierce kayak
@mild wing haha.. cos that's the only way I know. I think a guy up there pass the stage with Nemora charm Shem and not fareal..😂
mild wing
@pale rover
Gotta burst warek distract athalia and stop safiya somehow all at once and not die
pale rover
@mild wing Yeah show me heroes so I can choose. I usually do lineups if not my husband.
mild wing
@pale rover
mild wing
@fierce kayak Youre better with lower level stuff than me I think any idea for @lime hamlet
fierce kayak
@mild wing I dunno if I should be happy with that comment or cry.. ^_^
Btw.. Nemora charm fareal still works higher chapters?
mild wing
@fierce kayak Yes and it's a compliment, the strategies are very different I dont understand them that well
fierce kayak
@lime hamlet use Sav as carry over Shem. Max level Sav. Sav always behind Brutus for his roar. I Will reset Shem and max level Sav.
Have to see you full roster buddy. Always post stage and full roster so that we have more options. 🙂
lime hamlet
pale rover
@mild wing
Lyca
Lucius (call)
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
fierce kayak
@mild wing I understand.. just like I can't help much for 9-20.. the first famous big wall. I forgot how i pass it.
pale rover
@fierce kayak There's a 6, 9-20 and 9-40 in the pinned so you can just point them to that, if you can't recall.
mild wing
Shit thats what I was using @pale rover so either I need to level upgrade sigs or just keep rerolling it
down to the exact positions @pale rover no joke lol
silent wraith
take SS for every stage 
pale rover
@mild wing Lyca to soak damage. Charm Safiya. It takes a lot of RNG for sure lmao you know these stages.
mild wing
@pale rover Ugh I know I was hoping I was just wrong and there was a better option lol
fierce kayak
@lime hamlet just based on your ss here. Try
Sav (max level)
Brutus
Estrilda
Hogan
Rosaline
Wanna add nemora in bot back 5o charm golus but I dunno what other Wilders or Athalia you have to form bonus.
pale rover
Skeet says he can't remember if he used that or 3 Lightbearers with Lyca and Brutus. @mild wing
mild wing
At least I know Im on the right track if we both came up with the same thing its gotta be at least real close
lime hamlet
i heard shemira was strong thats why i kept her
mild wing
@pale rover Appreciate it
pale rover
@mild wing Good luck!! Just a matter of time. 
fierce kayak
@lime hamlet you can refer to tier list. She is good.. But depends on stage of game.. early mid late.
She is decent early game but Sav is better.
mild wing
@fierce kayak See that Sav behind brutus thing I wouldnt have even thought of
fierce kayak
@mild wing cos you guys too high levels already. I bet you guys can't even rmb who Sav is 😂
pale rover
Honestly I'm just happy to have someone here who knows lineups well dispensing advice.
fierce kayak
Teemo is still the best guy here Aero. Your no.1 student @pale rover
lime hamlet
thanks for the help
fierce kayak
Welcome. G luck
mild wing
@fierce kayak Im learning from you my man haha
pale kettle
Bruh finally done with 15-40 thanks alot
mild wing
Congrats
fierce kayak
@pale kettle with Nemora charm fareal or?
oblique phoenix
Help please, this stage has been dabbing on me for three days
pale kettle
I used nemora and numisu xD
fierce kayak
@pale rover o.. just saw your message about pinned. Ok thank Aero.
@silent wraith not helpful buddy 
@pale kettle ic.. gratz anyway.
pale kettle
Thanks guys XD now I can use shemira lol from legend to m +
fierce kayak
@oblique phoenix tasi banish? Belinda? Mireal? I assume all your heroes are here?
Can ss your roster?
oblique phoenix
@fierce kayak Tasi banishes Mirael. Here's everyone
fierce kayak
Else try
Arden
Brutus/Sav
Tasi
Sav/Brutus
Nemora
Or
Athalia
Brutus/Sav
Arden
Sav/brutus
Tasi/nemora
@oblique phoenix ^
oblique phoenix
Will try, thank you
fierce kayak
👌 you should be able to pass it. Anyway.. your roster ascension planning quite decent so far. Keep it up buddy.
clear saddle
yo @fierce kayak
fierce kayak
@clear saddle 👋
pale kettle
Any suggestions?
grave current
whats the best team i can do with that
polar harness
ugh I'm stuck at 15-40 as well
pale kettle
Yea it’s harsh
grave current
i dont mind resetting im stuck chapter 7
polar harness
If only that isabella wasent zapping away the frontline so fast
silent wraith
lol 9 knows the perfect setup for 15-40
gritty rivet
Any ideas to pass this?
jade wedge
Any ideas on this level? @_@
grave current
should i reset lyca for bruthus or safiya or just swap someone for bruthus ?
my team are the first 5
polar harness
You don't really have damage
sudden sparrow
@grave current Build Saveas and use him instead of the twins
grave current
i know my dmg is the lyca ult spam :/
fierce kayak
@pale kettle swap Shem with nenomra to charm fareal. Reset if charm fails.
Else take away Lucius, Brutus top Shemira bot. Wilders back (nemora still same middle back)
@silent wraith 😂 not helpful again
@gritty rivet what's this stage?
gritty rivet
19-38
sudden sparrow
And give this comp a go:
Saveas
Hendrick
Lyca
Lucius
Rosaline
grave current
so no bruthus?
sudden sparrow
At least not for now
grave current
oh damn i wish i didnt ascend safiya with elite + saveas.... smh
acoustic hawk
6-20 I don't mind resetting units, anything I can do here?
sudden sparrow
@acoustic hawk
Saveas
Hogan
Arden
Thoran
Nemora
jade wedge
Yeah, you need cc for chapter 6
fierce kayak
@acoustic hawk can refer to pinned message here top right for 6-20 guide
acoustic hawk
It was kinda just a lot of information about the heroes, nothing that really made sense to me
woven sedge
Been stuck for several days now. Any ideas?
fierce kayak
@gritty rivet
Shem
Lyca
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
junior ocean
Is there like a list or graph for what types are strong and weak against? That would be super helpful
woven sedge
@junior ocean Click on the "!" On the bottom left
ember bane
@fierce kayak i need good line up for Arena and challenger tournament
pale rover
@junior ocean There's one in the game, actually. When you're in campaign, check the lower left ! marker. Kindly ask in #classic-questions if not directly asking for lineups.
fierce kayak
@ember bane I am not good with that buddy. Sorry
broken granite
does anyone have a screenshot of GB floor 60?
iron bramble
polar harness
@fierce kayak holy crap passed 15-40 with ur tips for mama
barren fulcrum
so..I'm stuck on 3-20..
fierce kayak
@polar harness gratz buddy. Cos that stage is a nightmare for me so I can't forget it. G luck
polar harness
Yea, alot of stress staring at health bars
barren fulcrum
Here's my lineup..
fierce kayak
@barren fulcrum you can read the game tips at pinned message #classic-questions, top right.
Meanwhile just afk a little for more levels. Won't be stuck so early. Don't worry and enjoy the game.
@barren fulcrum who is the last purple he4o?
barren fulcrum
in my party or on the team?
tardy bridge
barren fulcrum
oh..that's rosaline.
fierce kayak
@barren fulcrum no buddy. You have a other purple.
tardy bridge
Getting jammed up on 11-28. Looking for another set of eyes/ opinion before i chalk it up to a potential level issue.
barren fulcrum
oh..the purples I've been using in my team are rosaline, hogan, shemira and lyca.
oh..want my whole lineup?
barren fulcrum
yeah..the 5th is angelo..he worth using?
fierce kayak
Yes buddy.. being asking about your last purple guy........ Angelo is bad but..
For now, no choice till you pull more.
Angelo
Hogan
Lyca
Shemira
Rosaline
barren fulcrum
hm..what about ascending my current rares?
barren fulcrum
thanks. that worked.
jade wedge
Any thoughts for me?
fierce kayak
@barren fulcrum for now.. only level these 5 heroes. And learn about the crystal
fringe pond
barren fulcrum
hm..learn about the crystal?
fringe pond
I'm stuck af, got 2k dust, what should I be doin? Thank you for any pointers, I'm at 9-38
clear saddle
buy dust from the shop everyday with gold
fringe pond
@barren fulcrum resonating crystal in town, may be unlocked later @clear saddle that I do
barren fulcrum
ah..
clear saddle
Just save up then, thats what i still have to do at this stage of the game
for your setup, you should get an arden in your crystal up and running, his cc is insane. also your shemira is gonna die instantly to that ogi due to factional disadvantage, cant have that. also, having 2 carries isnt exactly the most efficient but if you need it then thats manageable
fringe pond
@clear saddle do ya mean me? No Arden atm and rip good point about the factional disadvantage and two dps
clear saddle
yeah sorry, forgot to @
jade wedge
@fringe pond Saveas needs to be 121 before Shemira, Lucius also.
Try:
Tasi
Ulmus
Lyca
Lucius
Saveas @ 121
L
clear saddle
@fringe pond yep, the wilders are really powerful, lyca's haste is super good. Also, make sure to overlevel your carry as much as possible, or else you're gonna be progressing quite slow
jade wedge
Yeah get Saveas to 140 asap. Shemira gets less useful than Saveas starting at 101 when he becomes his own tank and doesnt regain her spot until 161
ember bane
Floor 226 need line-up ty
fringe pond
@jade wedge ty so Seavus next to make lv121 , I'll replace somekne for Ulmus in ceystal ty
jade wedge
@fringe pond I would reset Shemira now honestly.
rigid marsh
Isnt Shemira bad before level 161 or something?
south herald
@ember bane i did
Lyca
Shem
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Make sure Tasi get jump by silvina and Nem charms arden
@rigid marsh shes good but at 161 she gets very strong
jade wedge
@rigid marsh She’s not bad, but Saveas just performs better because he can tank for himself
rigid marsh
Okay thanks
Mine always dies and doesnt do enough damage to sustain herself. But shes only 120.
south herald
At 161 she will have way better sustain xd
jade wedge
She still dies at first though lol. Im currently at that stage. But once she gets rolling, you win
rigid marsh
Is Belinda good to keep investing in? I have her Legendary at 133
south herald
Early game shes good late game shes more of a support. Shes also a great support in guild hunt
rigid marsh
What would you say I am in terms of early and late game? I'm at 9-40 with about level 120 heros
onyx basin
What could be done with 20-8?
south herald
Thats is quite early still. I consider 161+ mid game and 200+ late game
@onyx basin arden should be mid I think and I think i use nemora to charm ogi on that stage so try replacing tasi with nem
Nem
Brutus
Arden
Shem
Lyca
onyx basin
Ill try but i think im level restricted
silent wraith
your levels r fine, I beat it with 659k power
onyx basin
Niru wipes everything with one cut lol
onyx basin
If i fodder arden i make them 220-180 too but naah
Lol even after ascension i still wont be able to make them 220-180 😂
mild wing
@south herald I usually say 1-160 early 161-240 mid and 240+ end sounds right to me at least lol
mild wing
Im stealing that, I will add a citation
coral lintel
Nemora, shemira, or khasos from labyrinth
I could fodder Arden and make nemora mythic
mild wing
@coral lintel Would get shemira till she goes Ascended. and arden is still useful I wouldnt unless you really dont plan on using him
@coral lintel Should attempt to get Shem to Ascended ASAP before the supports
coral lintel
@mild wing yeah I actually don’t use her rn but she will be my saveas replacement eventually
mild wing
@coral lintel Shes not great until 161+ but then shes best carry until about chapter 23
coral lintel
@mild wing just need to find a L+ to fodder her up somehow
urban river
Im using atm 5 wilders any better idea?
jade wedge
Any ideas for me?
@urban river Wilders have pretty low damage. Eironn is pretty good, though, but he can also screw up your team sometimes. If youre progressing, its fine
urban river
It’s just if I don’t die in 5 secs enemy’s are perma ccd but sadly my heroes dieng to fast now at stage 10 I feel like I should use saveas somehow
jade wedge
So youre either not killing fast enough or not tanky enough. You can try a 4/1 with Saveas. He can tank pretty well at 121 and does good damage
honest storm
After finishing 6-36, someone can help me here?
main sand
Need help with 8-4, thanks..
@honest storm I would use rosaline with saveus and luscious and Brutus as tank, and fawkes for cc
We have similar team
Shift saveus to left and right and see which one goes best, rosaline can be in front while tank at the back cos rosaline would walk back to saveus
tawny jewel
Hey guys. I think i found the winning comp for 14-16
@honest storm your team is fine. Maybe you can try
Arden
Saveas
Belinda
Brutus
Arden/tasi
Just to get the extra factional dmg. But i think your team is fine with your current roster
@honest storm if tasi gets her ult off ,then replace arden for fawkes if you want
@main sand show your team and your roster bro
honest storm
Is Fawkes that good @tawny jewel @main sand?
tawny jewel
@honest storm he just renoves an enemy from the field for 7 seconds and he might work in this case. He isnt somone that you use all the time but he is situational
honest storm
Okay, so he's a good choice to put into resonate crystal @tawny jewel
honest storm
@tawny jewel Saveas into front isn't a good idea
tawny jewel
@honest storm i mean you can always try it. It helped me pass alot of stages
@pale kettle your relics are good, crystal is close to 141 and its a big power spike. You can try to replace him with tasi if she cant get her ult off. Also i would put duras call on tasi
pulsar breach
Finally finished 15-40! Took me 30 minutes of retrying 😮
And then I got no champions with 30 pulls ;/ 😦
Made Shemira Mythic from L+ and sadly she is useless...
tawny jewel
@pale kettle ah yes thats a problem. Maybe using fawkes yould help btw
@pulsar breach bro she isnt useless. Show me your roster
@pale kettle maybe fawkes can prison him so he doesnt get ult 2 times
fierce kayak
@pulsar breach 30 pulls no purple? All normal summons?
pulsar breach
yea 😦
fierce kayak
@pulsar breach doesn't include faction and friends summon
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak i got down to the 2 vedans at half hp and isabella at 1 hp (my best)
pulsar breach
I did 30 pulls with diamonds, so no idea. Got blues. 😦
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel what's this stage? 2 Vedan? Omg
tawny jewel
@pulsar breach evwryone esle should be 41 and shemira should be as high as possible. She only carries if shes overlvled
@fierce kayak its 14-16 the hardest one for me so far. Shem gets ult off twice without call and still doesnt do enough dmg to kill isabella
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel I only either use meta team or 4 Wilders (Shem and lyca tank) from chap 13 onwards
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak and this is the gear today
:((
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel you waiting for mage boots?
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak its just that mehira gets her ult off always while tasi gets he ult once every 50 rolls
@fierce kayak yup idk when the will show up :/
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel meta team actually can cruise through chap 13 till maybe chap 16 to 17
Other than some walls like 15-40, 16-20, etc..
tawny jewel
@pulsar breach sry misstyped. Your supports and tank should be lvl 141 and get shem as high lvl as possible, then lvl tank up abit (10-20 lvls below shemira) then supports (20 lvls below shem). Then lvl shem again. @fierce kayak i mean i tried the 4 wilders and mehira. Its just that tasi doesnt get her ult off idk whats wrong
fierce kayak
U lack of M gears right for Shem if i rmb
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak yup, thats why i need the boots
fierce kayak
Fac tower flr 40gives gives GB staff
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak when do i unlock it?
ember oak
Any tips?
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel o ya sorry. After 15-1
@tawny jewel you also don't have a 2nd tank or nemora/Tasi?
@ember oak Hi buddy. Always always post stage together with full roster.
tawny jewel
ember oak
vapid meadow
When u want to help people but vacation wifi ain't loading pics that fast takes like 5min
tawny jewel
@ember oak btw a tank you should focus on is l+ hogan so dont waste the second e+ hogan for ascending him to l. You need 1 e+hogan to get him to l+
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel buddy.. post like ROI?
You can pass it
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak ?
ember oak
I know, trying to get more lightbearers
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel stage enemy position and roster together 🙂
tawny jewel
Okay i posted it but i guess jts up in the chat
fierce kayak
Ya I know. Just hard to scroll up and down ^_^
tawny jewel
Wait i didnt loool my brain is imagining shit
main sand
@honest storm having fawkes cleared a lot of stages for me
sharp falcon
What's the best arti for shemira?
fierce kayak
@ember oak try
Sav
Lucius
Arden
Hogan
Rosaline/nemora
pale kettle
Hey guys I'm sorta stuck on 12-24. Literal brick wall
ember oak
Ok ty
pale kettle
That's what I'm working with. Any advice?
main sand
This line up can get me to 1 last enemy on the field but no time to clear
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Tasi (bait)
tawny jewel
@main sand your comp is fine imo. Idk if lucius should be front or back. Just roll a couple of times
main sand
Guess just gotta spam that retry button
clear saddle
@main sand maybe put saveas bottom? You gotta kill the niru first before he powers up
ember oak
I don’t get it. Lucius puts the shield super and his breaks immediately
main sand
Their assassin would go after my rosaline
clear saddle
@pale kettle brooo that L shemira... whattt
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak yup. That was what i was trying all day yesterday. I saw a video as well. Tasi needs to tank a hit from silvina and jump behind isabella . Then bait both vedan ults to go on her and tp behind lyca and use ult.
main sand
@clear saddle that worked perfectly.. thanks! One try all it took
clear saddle
Np
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel tasi as long as she can survive and ulti with Shem will do
pale kettle
@clear saddle the level 1? I keep pulling her.
clear saddle
No buddy, you have an L+ one... why do you have another L one...
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak well i recorded it . And tasi got ult off 2 times in 70something rerolls or so. And it still wasnt evwn close
pale kettle
I pulled her from a 10 buy like 3 times. I just upgraded her
clear saddle
You need E+ copies of the same hero to ascend them to ascended... can you revert it at the rickety cart?
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel else
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
Or
Athalia
Shemira
Tasi
Lyca
Arden/nemora
@tawny jewel tasi ulti with Shem still can't kill them?
That's quite bad. Else try my 2nd suggestions
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak nope
pale kettle
@clear saddle hell I didn't know that about ascended. Yes I can revert
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak okay i will
clear saddle
Do it. You only need one L+ copy of any ascended tier heroes
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel do note.. Shem must ulti first.. then Tasi sleeps.. it's better this way.
Tasi sleeps first didn't help much
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak so should tasi be bait?
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel Yes. So that it's still 5v5
pale kettle
@clear saddle ok. Makes sense. I had no clue. Thanks.
brittle pivot
clear saddle
No worries
brittle pivot
Can someone tell me if any of these worth leveling up ?
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak where should tasi jump to?
Both of them got their ults off here. First shem then tasi @fierce kayak
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel anywhere. As long as she survives...
So must aim for... Shemira ulti.
Then tasi Sleeps..
Cannot both ulti same time or tasi sleep first. Less effective.
@tawny jewel 4 Wilders set up? These 3 is the best I can think of. Which one have higher chance then you keep trying..
Else afk for levels or seek 2nd opinion.
tawny jewel
This one shows them asleep at the end of shems ult
pale kettle
Any advice on what to do team wise?
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak nvm it shem ult was at about half duration there
@pale kettle dont use shemira before lvl 161. Use belinda
@pale kettle also you can go for
Rosaline
Hendrick
Belinda
Estrilda
Rownan
@pale kettle i would reset that shemira and put all lvls into belinda as carry if you want to use full lvs or 4 lbs. Then get shem to 140 again for crystal
Lvl 140*
pale kettle
Hmm ok
tawny jewel
@pale kettle its just that as a general rule shem works past lvl 161
pale kettle
She pretty much carries me hard right now. Will Belinda carry better?
gaunt moth
Bit stuck on 12-40, fawkes always traps khaz and I am not sure which needs to be killed first.
tawny jewel
@pale kettle if you put her behind estrilda and next to rosaline i think she will do better when overlevelled
pale kettle
Ok cool. Thanks!
plush wren
Stuck on this, I have 2 Crystal slots open though, any thoughts?
tawny jewel
@gaunt moth saveas is your carry not belinda. Overlvl him and put him behind brutus. Saveas must be 160 at this point in the game. If you almost have enough dust to get arden to 141 then wait , if not reset belinda and get him to 141. I believe your character lvls should be: saveas 160, arden 161 and the rest as high as they can go.
Sry arden should be 141 i misstyped
inner sparrow
Any advice?
ember oak
@fierce kayak the build didnt work. I'll try afking and hopefully getting more lightbearers so I can get a L hogan.
tawny jewel
@inner sparrow you can try:
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Lucius
Saveas
@plush wren how close are you to l+ hogan?
coarse grove
Any advice for a good team comp? Im not really sure what really works well with what 😅
tawny jewel
@coarse grove you need to save saveas copies and ascend him. He is rly useful
@coarse grove for now, try
Rosa
Hendrick/khasos
Belinda
Hogan
Nemora
You need to ascend hogan as well as he is a good carry early game. I recommend you go and see the first 2 pinned msges in questions room
coarse grove
Got it, thank you @tawny jewel 👌🏽
tacit kayak
stuck at stage 20-27, can't kill ulmus before he ults
tawny jewel
@tacit kayak have you tried
Tasi
Lyca
Eironn
Brutus
Arden/ nemora
tawny jewel
@elder needle always put belinda behind estrilda
@elder needle also, you can use
Fawkes/mirael
Thane
Mehira
Lucius/estrilda
Belinda
@elder needle put duras call on mehira and duras eye on belinda
Or better use
Belinda
Estrilda
Mehira
Thane
Fawkes
@elder needle also see the first 2 pinned msges in the questions room
plush wren
@tawny jewel I can make him now, but was told not to
tawny jewel
Show me the fodder you will be using
plush wren
@tawny jewel yeahh.. if only I got those quicker 👀 👀
tawny jewel
You need 2 more miraels bro
elder needle
Many thanks @tawny jewel
tawny jewel
@elder needle did you pass it?
@plush wren never use ascended tiers to ascend.
plush wren
Yeahh
elder needle
I’m about to try now. May i know why Belinda should be behind Estrilda?
plush wren
But @tawny jewel any advice?
tawny jewel
@plush wren you need to get morvus or mirael to elite+ and use 2 fodder units ti get to l and 1 e+ hogan to get instantly to l+ . The person who told you not to get him to l+ didnt want yku to use ascended tiers as fodder
@elder needle estrilda knocks the enemy back at the start and pushes the enemy next to his backline, then belinda throws that ball thing hitting all 3 enemies instead of 1.Belindas ult will also hit 3 targets instead of 1 . Also estrilda provides aoe cc with her charge infront of her.
@plush wren can you post the stage and roster again pls?
ember bane
@tawny jewel need strong line up for Arena and challenge ty
tawny jewel
@plush wren saveas should atk vedan right?
plush wren
I swapped bel and rosa, and I'm getting really close. Also no, he hits the hypogean and by the time it's dead, vedan goes to bat form and runs. I'm getting really close if I keep hitting try again, but big hit or miss
tawny jewel
@ember bane you got meta team bro. You are set. You can use
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Or if you wanna build an eironn you can
Nemora
Brutus
Eironn
Lyca
Tasi
@plush wren maybe use
Belinda
Brutus
Rosa
Estrilda
Saveas
cunning yarrow
@tawny jewel is that #1 team meta för PvP?
plush wren
Wait, not Lucius?
I feel like estril has been really useless for me, just gets one shot every time
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow ah sry. I do t rly know about pvp. But it should be fine i guess. They are your highiest ascention characters after all
cunning yarrow
@tawny jewel true, it is def not a bad comp
shell isle
Looking for lineup help for general PvE. Main story, Lab, Peaks
tawny jewel
@plush wren i just got an idea and recimmended that comp. You can try it , it may be wrong. The idea is that estrilda pushes hyoo guy and saveas kills vedan
plush wren
Ah, I'll try it out
cunning yarrow
@plush wren have you tried this mate
Nemora
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
tawny jewel
@shell isle
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Saveas
Arden
shell isle
Thank you @tawny jewel
tawny jewel
@shell isle when you get mythic shem , she just replaces saveas in the frontline
tawny jewel
Well i now have shem brutus wilders team and saveas is kinda useful in some stages if i need some extra dmg. But yea if you get rky stuck mythic+ brutus should be better than saveas
main sand
Should I spend my fodders to get Arden to legendary or nemora to legendary?
tawny jewel
@main sand you spend fodder if you can get somone to l+ directly.
main sand
Only to L+?
tawny jewel
@main sand and ascended
main sand
So who should be priority? Arden or Nemora
elder needle
I still cant get passed but my lineup improved. I am tempted to ascend Belinda and sacrifice mirael. Your thoughts @tawny jewel ?
pale kettle
@tawny jewel i did what you suggested and now I just get destroyed. My front line is complete garbage =(
tawny jewel
@main sand arden imo as his lvl 141 is op and he can be used as fodder after ch 22
main sand
Nemora is at E+
tawny jewel
@elder needle yea i would do that. You will get mythic belinda off of that right?
main sand
Atm
ember oak
Anyone can help?
main sand
so I just bench nemora for now
elder needle
Yes. Belinda will be mythic
tawny jewel
@pale kettle you can use the same front line as before too. I am just saying that you can use estrilda for faction advantage and belinda is better carry than shem at your lvl
@elder needle show me your lbs
@ember oak you cant use saveas frontline in thatone i think
ember oak
big oof
elder needle
lbs?
sand kindle
@ember oak try to make Saveas lvl 101 and switch nemora& arden
ember oak
It says I need all lvl 80 to make him 101 😦
tawny jewel
@elder needle lightbearers
elder needle
tawny jewel
@ember oak i would lvl up hogan instead of shem as he is easier to ascend an rly useful early
sand kindle
@ember oak probably reset Lucius and lvl up rest of ur team if there enoth exp?
ember oak
Are you sure? I've been told to focus on him because he is my tank
tawny jewel
@elder needle put green heroes in cart😂
Also idk if you should rush it. Ideally you need to feed mirael to somone you already have copies of ,or to somone you know you will get copies like fawkes from chall store
tacit kayak
@tawny jewel doesn't work sadly, don't think I can do much without shem
elder needle
Oops. Lemme put them in cart. My bad my bad.
tawny jewel
@tacit kayak yea true. Shem is needed. I just saw that team destroy campaign super late game in a video and wanted to recommend
@tacit kayak 4 wilders shem works well or?
ember oak
@sand kindle you sure resetting lucius is a good idea? Someone told me to focus on saveas nemora and lucius before the more support kind heroes
sand kindle
@ember oak The difference between 81 & 95 not that much, so at least you should give it a chance
tacit kayak
@tawny jewel wouldn't work without a tank, I'm reliant on brutus and shem sadly
tawny jewel
@ember oak if its for allowing carry to lvl uo further i think its worth
@tacit kayak okay true. Maybe if you get lyca to mythic and have mythic dodge gear on her she can front line. Also i saw many people make kaz a front line. With enough dodge she makes for a pretty good tank
cunning yarrow
Stuck in this stage, brutus wrecks me... any suggestions?
elder needle
I am having doubts whether I should sacrifice mirael so belinda can ascend to mythic
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow is it the same one?
sand kindle
@ember oak Also its goot advice to focus on this 3 characters, but for now you need some carry
cunning yarrow
@tawny jewel it's my roster and the stage
plucky flint
@elder needle why’s that?
ember oak
okay then I can reset him back to 81 I suppose?
sand kindle
Yup
elder needle
My mirael and belinda are both legendary+. I have been relying in mirael since the start
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow thats a tough one
ember oak
When should I start focusing on him more than others? And when should I switch from saveas to shemira?
plucky flint
@elder needle you don’t need both. What’s your full roster?
tawny jewel
@ember oak shemira replaces saveas at lvl 161
ember oak
kk then I won't touch her too much till she;s 161
sand kindle
@ember oak You should always focus 2 characters, so Make saveas 120, than make Lucuis 120, step by step.
tawny jewel
@plucky flint oh yes i wanna know too. Is it worth to get his belinda to mythic?
plucky flint
@ember oak build her in the background. You want her hitting mythic about the time sav has outlived his usefulness at 160
ember oak
@sand kindle so I can get sav to 101 then lucius to 101
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow is ulmus better than lucius?
sand kindle
@ember oak Yea or that way, but I prefer to max lvl first
tawny jewel
@ember oak lucius is capped at 100 now :/
ember oak
100 I mean't 😛
sand kindle
@tawny jewel he is, but at high lvls
tawny jewel
@ember oak i would start building hogan to eventually replace lucius
ember oak
Max level who? Also I'm already working on hogan in the background, planning to make him L+ since I hafve 2 E+ of him
plucky flint
@tawny jewel why do you keep advocating for people to build hogan over lucius?
tawny jewel
@plucky flint because l+ hogan is better than elite lucius
plucky flint
Oh nvm I just looked at his roster
tawny jewel
And you cant rly go wrong with a fodder unit at l+
cunning yarrow
@tawny jewel well this is my alt account and I wanted to go off meta and ulmus has been proving very useful. insta root at the start, great passive healing and a 1 time 40% heal
elder needle
@plucky flint. Although @tawny jewel already recommended I ascend Belinda
ember oak
btw when I have a L+ lightbearer that I want as mythic now I should use hogan right?
tawny jewel
@elder needle i sent you another msg telling you that you can also wait it out
cunning yarrow
@tawny jewel lucius proves strong too but brutus is stronger and lucius melts
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow oh okay . And is ulmus good?
plucky flint
@elder needle have you been foddering your ascended tier heroes? I feel like you should have more heroes at this stage but maybe I’m wrong...
cunning yarrow
@tawny jewel yeah like I said above, he is pretty strong but there's too much dmg split among my characters and brutus is so strong
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow ah i didnt see the msg above sry
fierce kayak
Ulums is strong late game
elder needle
@plucky flint sorry im new to this. What is meant by foddering?
cunning yarrow
The problem is that silvina jumps any Intellect hero i put in, brutus wrecks all of the tanks and numisu just cleans up after the rest of the team
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow i used e+ nara to counter silvina btw. That might help you
humble zenith
Hey, any help?
tawny jewel
@humble zenith oof how close are you to l+ saveas
cunning yarrow
@tawny jewel I have tried everything 😢
plucky flint
@elder needle anyway, your biggest immediate issue is you don’t have any good tanks above E. Build a hogan to L+. He’s easy to build and you can fodder him later and it looks like you’re going heavy LB. In the meantime I would fodder mirael and get Belinda up to 180. She’s gonna be your carry for a while. I would run LB teams with some combo of Belinda, rosaline, Lucius, estrilda, fawkes plus the wilder supports (nem, tasi, lyca, Arden), throwing hogan into that mix once he’s higher ascended. Will take some experimenting to find what works best, and what works best will change stage to stage.
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow well you are using an rng team afterall. Just find what works best and spam it...
plucky flint
@elder needle when you take a hero from E+ to L, you have to eat two other E+ in the same faction. The two heroes you eat are called fodder. There are two main tiers of hero in this game, the Legendary tier and the Ascended tier. L tier heroes are the ones that start as blue. They can only be ascended as far as L+. They’re easier to build, though, because blues are pretty common. Eventually, you need ascended tier heroes to reach M, M+ and A tiers. Generally you shouldn’t use ascended tier heroes as fodder. They’re rare and much more time consuming to build, so when you eat their copies you really set yourself back in the long run
cunning yarrow
I just tried heavy Wilders and it worked!
tawny jewel
@cunning yarrow ay nice
@cunning yarrow actually yes. That is better than brutus.but u lose faction buff on saveas
plucky flint
@tawny jewel what do you mean? 4 faction buff is stronger than 3+2
tawny jewel
@plucky flint wait wait wait. Does saveas also get the bonus?
plucky flint
I’m 98% sure. I never even questioned it before but I guess the description is a little ambiguous.
tawny jewel
Its just cuz at 3+2 all 5 pieces are coloured but at 4+1 only the 4 are
dusty cove
I'm stuck at lvl 95 of the King's Tower for a while now, any idea? Or leveling is the only solution 🤔
dusty cove
I know, that was my last despair try, but still, I haven't rolled any good dps anyway :/
visual quiver
wdym. I can see a saveas
dusty cove
ember oak
I think you should level Saveas by his own and not from the resonating crystal. Also I heard belinda is a nice dps, getting her tomorrow from daily
visual quiver
you obv. won't have a good carry if your sav is in the crystal
dusty cove
I was thinking of ditching hogan for an estrilda, and maybe mirael for belinda
Oh, we have to overlevel some.. I thought leveling evenly was more interesting xD Well i'll do that I guess
visual quiver
read the pinned messages in #classic-questions for early game tips
tawny jewel
@dusty cove okay firstly you need to aim for l+ arden so dont waste that second arden elite+ as you need him to go to l+. Even tho you dont have enough characters to make an actual team, your team now can be:
Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Hogan/lucius
Nemora
You are lacking tanks so saveas might have to be front line but i guess you can put khasos in the front too. Also build a hogan to l+ too
@dusty cove also as asmia said , read the 2 first pinned msges in questions room
dusty cove
Alright i'm gonna try that then, thanks ^^
ember oak
Is there anything left to do in the game after you finish all chapters?
pale rover
@ember oak #classic-questions
ember oak
oh wrong channel
uncut sapphire
Hi ! Can anyone help me for 14-31 please ? It’s not even a boss level but I can’t get past it...
tawny jewel
@uncut sapphire did you try 4 wilders?
uncut sapphire
Lyca instead of Brutus ?
It worked on the first try..... thanks lol I never think of using Lyca front line
wise stream
Guys, currently stuck on 11-36. Any advice or do my other heroes really need some more levels to get Shemira to do her ult?
uncut sapphire
@tawny jewel I beat it with Shem/Brutus and 3 wilders I don’t remember which ones but I didn’t really struggle there after being stucked on 14-12 for a long time. I’ve beat it with both accounts, one of them doesn’t even have Tasi
tawny jewel
@wise stream dont use shemira before lvl 161 . Saveas is better
wise stream
tawny jewel
@uncut sapphire yea i dont use tasi either now. I use mehira
@wise stream lol how is she mythic this early. But still she needs her 161 sustain
wise stream
Yeah got insanely lucky
onyx hinge
Any tip?
uncut sapphire
@tawny jewel I just baited the Silv at the bottom and let Shem do the rest. Do you have Brutus to tank Silv ?
@onyx hinge Try Brutus/Sav and Tasi/Lyca/Arden in the back maybe
wise stream
I want to get Shem to 161 but need my other heroes at 140 to do so....Should I delevel her to get to other ones near 140 first?
tawny jewel
@wise stream hmm you need that saveas lvl 160
Try
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Ulmus
Lyca
It might work
sand kindle
@wise stream pretty nice team. lvl up ur saveas to 160 and give him best gers
wise stream
@sand kindle So delevel shem and level up sav?
sand kindle
@wise stream depends of what stage you need to pass
uncut sapphire
@wise stream Put Arden, Tasi and Lyca in the crystal maybe lol
tawny jewel
@uncut sapphire like this maybe? Mehira can tank more than nemora
wise stream