lineup-help

[upper plover]

[clear saddle]

thats not the right attitude you should be showing to your master 😃
stays 5 i think

[fierce kayak]

If I have 5 days left in lab, I reset it now.

Lab becomes another 30 days or remains 5 days?

Never tried be4. Wanna try too.. haha

[clear saddle]

i tried it once, to get my shem to A i refreshed store

[plucky flint]

I think it probably resets another for 30 days

[fierce kayak]

@clear saddle tq master

[clear saddle]

but if you want to be safe you can reset store just as it resets by itself

[fierce kayak]

Someone said 5 days in afk chat

[clear saddle]

yeah im almost certain it stays 5 days. if you think about it, if you refresh normal store, the timer doesnt reset does it? same should apply here

[plucky flint]

My store just reset a few days ago. If I can pull enough tokens next lab, my store timer will be 25 days to reset. I don’t want to wait 25 days to get Shem ascended

[plush wren]

Hey, just need some tips for this one

[fierce kayak]

@plucky flint @clear saddle
I think Tuesday I still using M+ Shem? You can ask him about his Shem power.

Up to you. Cos these 25 days might drop you a Shem too. It happens to me that's why I usually only spend lab coins in the last day of lab before reset.

[clear saddle]

I got A shem at the start of ch19

[plush wren]

I can potentially get seirus to 61 I have an open crystal slot, to replace Rosa and go 2-3

[fierce kayak]

@clear saddle o.. Ya

@plucky flint think is Xeno... iMakeMistakes. You can ask her when she is online.

[clear saddle]

yeah she got to ch20 with M+, quite impressive but her crystal was 180 so 😂

[plush wren]

Any advice folks? 👀

[fierce kayak]

@clear saddle that's why.. I wanna go chap 20 with Level 200 and above Shem and crystal 180 😂

[clear saddle]

@plush wren you need another proper tank for the first several chapters mate

[plush wren]

Seirus? 😂

[fierce kayak]

@plush wren try use

Sav
Brutus
Arden/ Estrilda
Hogan
Rosaline/ nemora

You can read my tips at #classic-questions for early game if you keen. Pinned message.

[silent wraith]

wow 9 has pin

[plucky flint]

@plush wren
Sav
Brutus
Arden/ros/nem
Hogan
Arden/ros/nem
Would be my first attempt

[clear saddle]

you can probably run that setup and kill the golus last, need to kill the rest of the team

[plucky flint]

I don’t know how well seirus works early game compared to hogan. If you’re feeling free with your gems, give it a shot

Yeah you want to clear out the upper part of the formation, so focus Brutus and sav there. That’s the only part of this I’m sure about

[teal glade]

Esperia 59

[clear saddle]

@teal glade if you put rosa in front of athalia, she will dodge the stun and also take the silvina with her, maybe try that out?

[teal glade]

Was wondering about that. Wasn't sure if at e she'd just ens up being fodder

[fierce kayak]

@plush wren don't use serius. Nara be more useful. Or Grezhul for now

[teal glade]

I know I need the lucius for tanking, belinda for dmg, and fawkes for removing ferael. Bout all I'm sure of for this floor

[plucky flint]

Man it’s gonna be a long long time before I’m ready to get to floor 60 of LB tower. Estrilda is the only LB character I have above E+

[plush wren]

Hmm, I tried your lineup about 4 times and came somewhat close once @fierce kayak

[frigid dagger]

Any suggestion?

[plucky flint]

Close in 4 times is more or less instant success in this game. Keep running it. Try to discover your win conditions (who arden has to root to have a chance or who nem needs to charm) and once you’re confident about your win conditions, just restart the fight as soon as the condition fails@plush wren

[fierce kayak]

@plush wren ic.. keep trying or tweak a little. Sav always behind Brutus for his roar. Or wait a little more to level up.

Always carry first like Sav 20 to 40 levels ahead, tanks and supports

[plush wren]

Yeah I'm trying to get him to 100, then probably Brutus or Hogan, then the rest. I just felt like I had to rush Arden to 81 since someone mentioned it earlier. Was that a waste? Maybe I can reset him to 61 and get sav to 100 instead

[plucky flint]

@plush wren I wouldn’t waste the gems personally. I don’t think it’s a huge mistake

[plush wren]

I need one more sav for e+ 👀 👀

So tempted to burn through my 1500 gems but I think I'll wait another day to roll 10

I'm trying this and getting close ish, why did y'all recommend Arden in the middle tho? Like Rosa takes a big walk every time if I do that.

[pale kettle]

15-8

[teal glade]

@clear saddle took 3 tries but i smaaaaashed it ty. Just had to rng for a run fawkes didn't get nixed so i could re cc the ferael and damn. Rosaline is legit....

[orchid yew]

hello guys! go upper with shem, or lvl 200 everyone first? thx in advance. (link me pls)

[frigid dagger]

@orchid yew shem 220 first

[plush wren]

We did it Bois! Thanks guys for the help 👌 👌

[clear saddle]

@teal glade glad to be of help 😃

[dark tundra]

@orchid yew 220 Shem. For sure

[plush wren]

I think I'm doing this right? I kill the bot side and then horse man fucks me

[dark tundra]

Front sav back Brut let's see

[orchid yew]

@frigid dagger @dark tundra this is 2-0 to shem. thank you guys.

[plush wren]

Sav died instantly

[dark tundra]

Afk or pray for rng

[plush wren]

👌 😂

[tawdry umbra]

Tips on this please

[devout berry]

Stuck on 12-40. Also have a Hendrik I can put into crystal to use

[tawdry umbra]

Posting again. Need help on this.

[steel moat]

@tawdry umbra i beat it with this lineup

You should get past it pretty easily with ascended shemira

[tawdry umbra]

She's getting perma CC.
What's about your gears

[steel moat]

I have full mythic on everyone but tasi, dura's grace on brutus, eye on lyca, call on tasi, drape on nemora, and blade on shemira

[tawdry umbra]

Might be gears then. I upgraded only the matching faction mythic xD

[steel moat]

I feel like you could beat it

[green rover]

Should I make a team of Mythic Shemira, Lucius, Nemora, Fawkes, and Brutus? if right now I have Mythic Shemira, Legendary+: Lucius, Tasi, Nemora, Lyca, Brutus, Fawkes

[steel moat]

@glass zealot how about this?

Lyca/Shemira
Hogan
Arden
Saveas
Lucius

[tawdry umbra]

Nah,not working. Even on goodrng, tasi get deleted

[steel moat]

@devout berry

Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Tasi

What about swapping her for arden?

@green rover you have some good heroes! I think both brutus and lucius isn't really necessary, so you could go with either of them + shemira for frontline and then nemora tasi lyca backline for cc and faction bonus

[pale kettle]

Any help? thx!

I need help on 10-8

[tawdry umbra]

Well, arden get also killed quickly xD

[teal glade]

@clear saddle any tips for esperia 60? I've hears about the 4 brutus but holy god.

[clear saddle]

@teal glade oh that one... I hired a M thane mercenary to help

[teal glade]

What does thane provide that I'm forgetting? I have an L myself. Also curious what comp you ended up running

[clear saddle]

Ok my internet is being slow .-

[teal glade]

It does say slowmode is enabled 😂

[clear saddle]

This one I believe...

[teal glade]

Cheers. Ill keep tahtin mind and maybe wait for 180 crystal if i get utterly handled

[clear saddle]

Took a lot of tries tho

[teal glade]

Kk noted. Ill just wait till crystal 180 period to try lol.

[clear saddle]

I think I manually did Fawkes ult to get rid of two immune brutus’

[teal glade]

Cheers. If i cant get close now i can always wait a week for a 5th mythic to 161 my crystal

[clear saddle]

Yeah, no hurry I don’t think. Mauler 60 is a lot tougher I think, I’m not even close yet

[teal glade]

@clear saddle this might actually be alright. Glad to know mauler or wilder will be my block though. Mauler im at 58. 1 more elite warek though and i can take him right to ascended

[clear saddle]

Woow you have insane luck with warek, mines only elite and I’ve spent a bit of money as well

[frigid dagger]

@manic kayak who tasi banish?

[manic kayak]

@frigid dagger no one not a single chance lol

Is it lack of levels

[clear saddle]

I’ve heard people use estrilda for ulmus levels but never seen anyone use it :/

[frigid dagger]

@manic kayak lmao hhh, u tried already top down shem brutus top down nemora lyca arden? Tasi is pretty useless against ulmus, shem call or eye so she can ult fast

[teal glade]

@clear saddle i got 7 wareks in 2 weeks a few weeks ago. I was actually getting pissed off cause i needed 1 brutus for l+. Till i realized HOW many i was getting

[clear saddle]

Bruh that’s craZy numbers, you’ll be glad to know he’s a monster at 200+ or so

[teal glade]

Eeeexcellent. Im 180 soon. He's carried me 50 to 58 literally solo. Excited for those levels

[manic kayak]

@frigid dagger ah it’s just lvls. I need to wait a month at least. It does work better than lyca tasi nemora

[frigid dagger]

@manic kayak full wilders teams are always a pain in the azz, maybe rng help u if u keep trying

[teal glade]

@clear saddle i got 2 brutuses. Held my fawkes ulti for belinda and thoran's brutuses to immune but i think I'm gunna wait for 161 then try. Thane fawkes definitely making a difference

[manic kayak]

@frigid dagger even with the nerf it’s quite difficult

[devout berry]

@steel moat tried it out for about 10-15 min. Saveas Dying too fast in front to gain any momentum

[pale kettle]

Help me build team plz. 8-40 😦

[steel moat]

@devout berry Oh no i have an alternate team for you
Fawkes
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus
Saveas

I deadass didn't realize you had Lucius omg

@pale kettle can you send the stage enemy formation please?

[main grove]

Does anyone know a line up that could help ? They are so strong that shemira struggles to get even 1 ult off

[ember bane]

@clear saddle need line up for Savage waste

[clear saddle]

Spider thread gloves

@ember bane that plus ice and fire bringer should be ez

[sleek crane]

Any ideas to improve my wrizz lineup? Ive been using this for over a month now and wonder if I should swap since I am very close to reaching 20m damage.

[honest storm]

Any ideas?

[teal glade]

@main groveswap lyca in for brutus. Any lyca will do just to bait ogi and give haste buffs. Tasi nemora arden back. Repeat till you get some solid cc rng. Arden roots buy time for tasi ult and then you get a chain going. The key here is to use arden tasi and nemora to mitigate all the backline dmg.

I would put the energy recovery rwlic on tasi. Gets her cc off aooner and pushes for her ult.

I just saw your tasi is only e. Mine was L when someone else gave me this lineup but as long as she doesn't die you should be fine. Maybe just don't put her top so khasos can't axe her.

My shemira's also considerably stronger than yours is there. But give it a whirl and keep repeating till you get good cc rng. It should end up working out.

[royal mirage]

When I get everyone to 200, should I then get Shemira to 240? Or Fawkes to 220?

[south herald]

@royal mirage Shem 240

[royal mirage]

Okay thanks :)

[south herald]

@honest storm u should use ur Dura tear if u have one.... other than that im not sure

wait no

one sec

@honest storm Try
Rosaline
Brutus
Saveas
Lucius
Shemira

[honest storm]

Okay one moment

This @south herald?

[south herald]

no...

the one with the space infront of their name is the front

like the game format
3
1
4
2
5

[honest storm]

Oh xD

Thanks

Didn't worked, well nevermind... I just gonna wait...

[wary wadi]

Any veteran can give opinion this would really appreciate

24-14

[heady sequoia]

I’m stuck at 6-32

[south herald]

@heady sequoia picture of the stage pls

[south herald]

@heady sequoia try Vedan instead of numisu

[fallow oak]

Out of the hero’s I have atm which do you think would make the best team for progression at my level etc

[south herald]

@fallow oak something like
Rosaline
Lucius
Belinda
Ulmus
Nemora

you might want to upgrade ur shem tho shes very solid

[pale rover]

@wary wadi
Tasi
Kaz
Lyca
Brutus
Shemira/Ferael

[fallow oak]

Yeah I planned on leveling Shem aswell although I don’t know where to put her lol as in who to replace etc

[south herald]

@brisk tapir My shemira was 220 so idk if this would be a problem but try
Nem
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

[fallow oak]

@south herald in what order?

[south herald]

@fallow oak the one with the space in front r frontlines so
3
1
4
2
5

[brisk tapir]

@south herald ill have a try, thx

[fallow oak]

Thx

[charred thicket]

So I've been playing this for about a week now but have hit a progression wall. What's the best line up I can manage for now, or who should I focus on leveling?

[fossil cipher]

Morning guys, i'm really really stuck on 6-32
Not even close to getting it, i get decimated
Any better ideas regarding the heroes/lineup?

[pale rover]

@fossil cipher Kindly read this for late ch6. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n1XLVnLswORV5pYRfnHtWhvNWAVUNIX0TNjZzzt_LaY

@charred thicket What stage are you stuck in?

[charred thicket]

Same as him, late chapter 6. I'll read into that document

[south herald]

@pale rover that just saved me a buncha time typing xD

[charred thicket]

I've tried these 2. Guess I just gotta level for now.

Thanks for the guide. Its got good info.

[dense niche]

Can I have the guide too please?

[south herald]

@dense niche scroll up a bit there should be a link

[pale rover]

The guide is pinned in the messages here, by the way. It's for late c6, 9-20, and 9-40.

If you're stuck in any of those stages feel free to have a look.

[tulip elm]

Any ideas for this chapter?

[fossil cipher]

should have checked that first, outlasting brutus was an obvious but good info, totally overlooked that
thanks for that!

[dense niche]

Perfect, thank you very much

[winged lodge]

@charred thicket

Lyca        - Carry
    Shemira    - Carry + RM
Rosaline        -  Support carry
    Thoran    - Tank RP
E&L            - Support Tank

[violet pecan]

Lets see what experts have to say

[charred thicket]

@winged lodge thanks!

[violet pecan]

@tulip elm put nemora top charm saveas
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Lucius/brutus
Tasi
See what works the best

[tulip elm]

@violet pecan let me check that

[pale rover]

@tulip elm
You can try:

Fawkes
Brutus
Shemira
Lucius
Thane

Not certain if Wilders will work there because if you frontline Shemira she'll get hit by Saveas and if you keep a strong cc backline, Warek will benefit.

[violet pecan]

@tulip elm try few rimes you need 2 charm on saveas in a row

[tulip elm]

@violet pecan I’m aware of this. However in first 5 she charmed no one lmao

[winged lodge]

@tulip elm

lot of rng depending on Tasi tp and Nemora tanking. You want Warek dead fast so you shall put mage (int based heroes) against him.
Lyca-Carry Buffer
    Brutus-Tank DPS
Shemira-Carry
    Tasi-SupportTank CC
Nemora-Support Healer

good option
Lyca-Carry Buffer
    Brutus-Tank DPS
Belinda-Carry Buffer
    Lucius-SupportTank
Estrilda-Buffer CC

[violet pecan]

@tulip elm does numisu prevents her with ward thing? Or tasi banishes saveas?

[tulip elm]

@pale rover I checked it and well. If I put items on fawkes and thane it might work
@violet pecan none of this tbh xD she just doesn’t do it

[violet pecan]

@tulip elm there is posibility she is trying to charm warek or grethul shile they are both protected from charn. Retry more for better rng

Your stage is beatable with eas

[tulip elm]

No other way around! It will be a fun level xD

Oh well. She charmed Saveas but Shemira dies too fast 😢

[winged lodge]

Charm doesn't works on Warek neither Brutus while invincible. Fawkes or BelindaXRosaline would have done so much works :/

[tulip elm]

I hate playing vs Warek tbh

[winged lodge]

Warek backlane is one of the worse opponent yeah

[pale kettle]

can someone help me what my hero priorities should be? im pretty new (lvl 33), and i think i got a few decent ones so far...
i use E shemira, E Saveas, E Brutus, E+ Grezhul, E Vedan, E Rosaline... i also have got E+ Belinda, E+ Arden, E Isabella, E Thoran, E Estrilda...
can i make my lineup a bit better with these?
atm i lvl shemira most, then brutus and saveas, rest 10-20 lvl lower

[fallow oak]

Any suggestions? I can’t beat this and not sure if I have a better lineup

[ember bane]

@violet pecan Savage waste Thane and Warek don't die what's the solution

@winged lodge can u help me ty

[vestal parcel]

How should i develop?

[mild wing]

@tulip elm @winged lodge he is the worst by far. If you dont burst him fast enough he will solo you so annoying

Serius later too, his ult is crazy overpowered as enemy

[fallow oak]

Any suggestions

[ivory fable]

Any idea?

[vestal parcel]

Please @me if you are answering to my question :) Thanks in advance

[ember bane]

@dark tundra need advice Savage waste

[dark tundra]

The first one

[ember bane]

@dark tundra and which team setup good

@ember bane isn't spell book good ?

[dark tundra]

@ember bane try r
Getting Kaz relic plus poison relic if your Shem can't kill your athalia. Then two trial teams if can't beat it in the first try. Like full graveborn or your main heroes. Spell book if u think shemira can kill that. Oh there is a signature now then go for spell book. Before cant kill it even it's 200 Shem and it needs Kaz and her relic. Maybe it's different now cos of signature s

[ember bane]

@dark tundra which good shem+4wilder

[brisk spade]

Kill hogan and raine to get belinda to L+ if I get a copy of her?

[sly sparrow]

Need help 12-4 please

[indigo jolt]

@ember bane DO you have ezizh?

[upper path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585799848314404893/610425131130552330/video0.mov

What can I do about this??

[sleek portal]

Need help here

[ember bane]

@indigo jolt yes I have elite Ezizh

[indigo jolt]

@ember bane Fairly sure i ran,
Arden
Lyca
Ezizh
Shem
Brutus/Thoran
Need to manual time ults, but basically as long as you stop athalia ulting by repeating your own ults you win by endurance.
Could also run lucius/nemora if worried about heroes dying.
Just restart the fight if she gets 1st ult off and you nowhere close to killing.

[heady sequoia]

I’m still stuck on 6-32

[old ore]

Ok, so optimal lineup here? I have 3 slots on res crystal and I'm mid chapter 4

[limpid quail]

@old ore only level 5 heroes, reset the rest and put the ressources you get in saveas

[old ore]

What does level 5 heroes mean?

[heady sequoia]

Only level 5 heroes

[sudden sparrow]

The top5

[limpid quail]

only 5 heroes need to be leveled up

[heady sequoia]

Push Saveas ahead as he’s a strong solo carry

[sudden sparrow]

Also, sell all the common heroes

[old ore]

So, reset mirael, ira and vedan.
I need common heroes for bounty

[sudden sparrow]

You don't

[limpid quail]

common heroes are actual fine at the beginning for the bounty quests

[sudden sparrow]

You can use higher Ascension level heroes

[old ore]

So, which 5 heroes do i keep?
I'm almost lv4 on bounty, so I'll retire them then

[ember bane]

@indigo jolt is team elite enough or need L+

[sudden sparrow]

Hogan, Saveas, Numisu, Nemora and Rosa/Mirael, the last one is up to you @old ore

[indigo jolt]

@ember bane As long as you can cc and keep ults up, i used bunch of elites other than shem and lyca.

[limpid quail]

i woul suggest mirael, caus rosa is also usefull at E and wou will get mor copies aóf mirael to ascend her

[old ore]

What now? Just solo level up saveas, up to when?

[ember bane]

@indigo jolt and which relics important for Savage waste

[limpid quail]

ash high as you can

[old ore]

He's now 75. Which lineup should i use, front, back?

[indigo jolt]

@ember bane Fire and Ice, health regen,if possible the shemira unique one makes it easier to save fountains for as late as possible. Silk gloves are good as well, but not essential.

[limpid quail]

@old ore front hogan/golus, back saveas/numisu/rosa, you can also put saveas front for golus if he survives and put nemora/arden/lyca in the back

[old ore]

Alright thanks, that was helpful. Cya everyone

[ember bane]

@indigo jolt succeed for which hero it's good ?

[clear saddle]

yo @sleek portal you still need help with the stage?

[sly sparrow]

@clear saddle i do

[clear saddle]

does silvina jump nemora? if so maybe put her frontline and brutus behind? maybe in front of golus, and have brutus behind to tank when she dies

[untold maple]

8-32, thoughts?

[clear saddle]

@untold maple could try putting lyca instead of raine, her haste could help a lot

[untold maple]

will give it a shot

[clear saddle]

@untold maple also do try and get an arden up and running, he gets superb at 141

[dark tundra]

@ember bane grats for nemora for me

[untold maple]

Will do, think I'll have quite a bit of time before I see 141 at this rate 😛

I tried Lyca and it seems to be a bit better than Raine, but still getting stomped, Niru just manhandles everyone

[clear saddle]

oh yeah niru, you have to focus your main dps there. he powers up the more people die so try kill him first if you can

[sleek portal]

@clear saddle ye

[untold maple]

Only thing I can kill is that stupid imp thing, nothing else dies and Niru just heals everything lol

[clear saddle]

@sleek portal

@untold maple maybe try again once you get an arden?

[untold maple]

I can epic an arden right now to at least use him at 100

[midnight solar]

Hey, can I get a line up suggestion? Just started and not much familiar with all heroes.

[clear saddle]

just put him in crystal

[ember bane]

@dark tundra 20-8 need advice plz ty

[untold maple]

woah crystal ignores ascendant caps?

[clear saddle]

yus

[untold maple]

Well, adding my crappy R+ Arden at least allowed Ulmus to live long enough to ult.. hrmm

[half olive]

Nemora is leg+ should I ascend her?

[paper lion]

Any help for those 2 levels? And should I already switch to Shemira? Saveas Leg+ but Shemira only Leg
Level 2: https://puu.sh/E4h2s/99a3fc655c.png

[south herald]

@paper lion For the campaign try
Saveas
Shem
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi

[timber fossil]

can i beat this? have E+ hendrik and E rowan available as well. Lightbearer tower 70

[paper lion]

Khasos just 1 hits Nemora, Brutus and most of the time Tasi too

[south herald]

@paper lion who does ur tasi banish?

[paper lion]

No one lol

The Mage but just when my whole Team is almost dead

[south herald]

@timber fossil u really need a good thane imo on this stage because Lb doesnt have any dps except him

[brittle pivot]

Anyone willing to take a short look at my cards ? 100% noob here, don't wanna waste time on upgradings useless cards

[south herald]

@paper lion try
Tasi
shem
Nemora
Brutus
Saveas

@brittle pivot just post ur box here

[timber fossil]

damn

[winged lodge]

@timber fossil Rosaline should be near her follower

[timber fossil]

she follows lucius cuz everyone else is so weak haha

[paper lion]

@south herald Went way better but I think my Team is just too weak. Shem and Saveas survive but can't kill a single enemy

[south herald]

@brittle pivot Tasi is op, Belinda is good early game late game more of a support, Brutus is very strong in general, Ferael great late game carry, Shemira is one of the most used carry, Rosaline and Lyca r top tier too

[timber fossil]

@paper lion probably have to afk for a bit and pump saveas to 160, also shem prob isn't doing much at that level, if you have somewhat decent gear have ezizh tank instead of her

[visual quiver]

Can‘t seem to beat the stage. Any suggestions?

[south herald]

@brittle pivot just keep in mind not to fodder any ascended tier card

[brittle pivot]

So should I just pump these you mentioned @south herald?

Any order I should form a team of them ?

[south herald]

@visual quiver try
Nem
Skreg
Rosaline
Hogan
Saveas

[paper lion]

@timber fossil My best gear is for Mages and I really like Shemira over Saveas, just need her on Leg+ :/. Also only got 1x Tank Gear and it's on Brutus 😃

[south herald]

@brittle pivot ur priority is Shem first and everything else just up to u tbh.. U only need to level up ur top 5 heroes tho because of resonating crystal

[visual quiver]

@south herald no chance at all. I don't kill a single one of them with that formation

[brittle pivot]

Ty 🤘

[south herald]

@visual quiver ur team consist of mostly lightbearers which r weak to graveborn. The enemy r also higher lvl than u so in this case u might want to afk a bit

[visual quiver]

ok, thanks

[paper lion]

@brittle pivot You can also sell those green Units 😄

[timber fossil]

@dusty vine she's not too useful yet until you can get her over 161. Main priority is to get saveas to 160 even if everyone else is 120. if you can get any tank that survives longer up there instead of her you might have a chance

[paper lion]

@timber fossil Thanks, I prob gonna reset Shem / Belinda then to get Saveas to 141 -> 160

[brittle pivot]

Shem is a frontline hero ?

[paper lion]

If she's tanky enough (and with duras grace)

[pale rover]

@visual quiver That's tough. You can try either: Ezizh top front Estrilda bottom front, Nemora Lyca Tasi back or Ezizh and Ogi front, Tasi Lyca Saveas back.

Bit limited so just try and see if it works, if not afk.

[fierce kayak]

@brittle pivot Shem will be able to tank post 161.

@pale rover Hey Aero, do you know when does meta team not working in campaign?

[south herald]

Im interested in this topic

[fierce kayak]

I was wondering who is the Korean typing here 😂

[south herald]

It just says I love u 3000

[pale rover]

@fierce kayak Late ch24 and 25 you'll really need to keep swapping according to my husband. No more relying on carry units, everyone needs to pull their weight. Synergy is super important!

[south herald]

This name doesnt suit me brb

[fierce kayak]

@pale rover ya.. that why I wish to ask you. So that I can prep myself. Thanks Aero.

[visual quiver]

@pale rover tried both but just missing too much dmg. they are far too tanky

[pale rover]

@visual quiver Yeah it's most likely your gear if so and the ascensions. Good luck, you'll be completing it soon enough.

@fierce kayak Anytime!

[visual quiver]

well, can't really be my gear. most is purple and at least 2 star. can't drop leg yet. probably just level and ascension

[fierce kayak]

👌

[visual quiver]

Any tips against that?

silvina is jumping on rosa btw. after rosa is belinda with least def

[fathom anvil]

I have a question: should I keep Shem and Brutus 20 lvls over the rest? Or should I balance all team? My Shemira is 220, Brutus 215 and the rest 180. Should I put all 200?

[winged lodge]

You will need everyone at same level more than some at high level. So put all at 200 😃

[pseudo bear]

@fathom anvil I like to keep them 40 levels higher than others until you need to level up those other characters to level them up again

[fathom anvil]

😓😓😓

[paper lion]

@visual quiver You can try to get Silvina away from rosa with Ezizh

[pseudo bear]

@fathom anvil They will carry you further that way

[fathom anvil]

Yeah. That's the way I'm doing

[winged lodge]

That's not true... There are not only 1 team that carry every levels like Warek is one of the best units against guild bosses it's far better to get versatility through leveling everyone equally.

also lvl 200 cap is 30k dust and 220 is 40k dust you lose a lot by focusing on only 1 or 2 characters.

[lofty depot]

Any suggestions?

[fathom anvil]

All 200 is good for arena too. But not stages

[winged lodge]

It's good for everything but campain and it's not even true because you can win a stage you were locked on because you needed an other hero.

[fierce kayak]

@lofty depot buddy you don't have Arden? He is quite essential at least for me.

Else try Athalia across Arden to disable him.

Shem avoid ogi

[lofty depot]

@fierce kayak No I accidentally foddered him a few days ago lol, I just woke up and didn't know what I was doing lol

[fierce kayak]

Cos I use 4 Wilders to face Wilders team. Lyca dodge tank Ogi.

If you cannot stop Arden root.. it be gg. So have to get someone to disable him like Athalia. Think nara can do that right? I don't have her.

[fathom anvil]

I'm getting rid of Arden. Just don't know which one I should upgrade first

But Arden is essential till stage 21

[lofty depot]

Thank yooooou

[pseudo bear]

I still use him till 23 actually

@fathom anvil But some people just use the e+ or r+ version of him when he start getting one shotted

[winged lodge]

Carries first @fathom anvil and because of union Lyca is one of the best carries but Eironn is also a good choice. Anyway you may not want to throw Arden away to keep your union bonus.

[fathom anvil]

Yeah. That's what I'm planning to do

I'll keep Arden e+

I will use Kaz as fodder too. I don't use her anytime

[winged lodge]

Don't use Kaz or any ascended hero as fodder that's a mistake you will regret

[pseudo bear]

@fathom anvil I would advice against it. Kaz is really good in Peak of times and Labyrinth

[indigo jolt]

@ember bane I put on Shem when i need her to survive at the start as shes undergeared.

[fierce kayak]

@lofty depot it works? Gratz buddy

[fathom anvil]

😓 so should I upgrade Kaz first than Lyca?

[lofty depot]

@fierce kayak Yeah I just got to chapter 15, got my first Brutus lol

[fierce kayak]

@lofty depot 😂 nice

[pseudo bear]

@fathom anvil Don’t upgrade Kaz. Upgrade Nem or Lyca. I would go with Nem first imo

[lofty depot]

@fierce kayak Only got shit from all my summons though.. Like 15 summons :(

[fathom anvil]

I go for Nemora

[fierce kayak]

@fathom anvil why not upgrade them when you have 4 copies of them ready to white?

If it's white.. Lyca is better imo.

Nemora is a better option now with his Sig too.

@lofty depot same for everyone

[atomic notch]

Should I switch someone with Thoran?

[heady sequoia]

I am struggling at 6-32

[fathom anvil]

I have 4 copies of Nemora, 3 of Lyca

[lofty depot]

@fierce kayak Well tbf not ONLY shit, got Arden to E and another Lyca copy

[fathom anvil]

Ok

Thx guys! 👍🏼

[fierce kayak]

@lofty depot that's nice

[sly sparrow]

@fierce kayak can you help me please? 😄

[fierce kayak]

@sly sparrow sure

[sly sparrow]

@fierce kayak thank you 😊

[fierce kayak]

@sly sparrow power diff a lot at your level imo. Silv aims nemora?

[sly sparrow]

yes nemora

[fathom anvil]

I have a question. Kind stupid I guess. The heroes work better when they are in a team with other hero from same union?

[pseudo bear]

@fathom anvil No, the union buff the hero anyway even if you don’t include everyone from that union into your team

[fathom anvil]

All right. 👍🏼

[fierce kayak]

@sly sparrow hopefully nemora can charm before died. Try
Lyca/arden
Sav
Arden/lyca
Brutus
Nemora

Or
Athalia
Sav
Fawkes
Brutus
Belinda

[sly sparrow]

ooo athalia i havent thought of her haha... true we need someone to stun isabella

but wait isnt putting saveas front a bit dangerous? golus can wreck him... i thought he is backline no matter what

[fierce kayak]

@sly sparrow cos I can't see any better tanks than him 🙂

[sly sparrow]

lmao true.. well time to test and find out... thanks ♥

omg i won! the second one did it... thank you @fierce kayak ♥♥

[fierce kayak]

@sly sparrow I didn't except it will work tbh 🙂 Gratz anyway

[sly sparrow]

actually wait not the second the first one haha... but lyca on top and arden on middle

[fathom anvil]

@fierce kayak I asked here before to other guys if I should keep heroes same lvl or Shemira and Brutus 20lvls more. I'm on stage 21-2, my Shemira is 220 and Brutus 215, but all the rest are 180. What's your opinion about it?

Thats my team atm.

[astral marsh]

I'm lvl 113 and i have only 3 lvl 180 and 2 lvl 170. How can you have lvl 220-215 and 180. Other solution to gain exp than wait afk (and doing stage pve)

[fierce kayak]

@fathom anvil I saw. But didn't comment cos you higher level than me. 🙂

I do agree with bagel. Overlevel still works better.

Also, campaign is most important to me. Guild bosses, other modes tbh rewards not that awesome?

Campaign climbing is also the ultimate aim of us all? ^_^

[fathom anvil]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[fierce kayak]

@fathom anvil you can ask Tugey at question channel. He high level too.

[fathom anvil]

@astral marsh labyrinth, Kings tower and VIP lvl

[astral marsh]

Im stuck for all of this (except laby i do every time with hard mode) so... need to wait haha

[fathom anvil]

Also fast rewards

[astral marsh]

It is worth to spent diamond for fast rewards ?

[fathom anvil]

I've done hard mode just twice. Not bother with that

I prefer to go normal lab. As my team isn't great for hard mode

@astral marsh yes. But Max twice

[indigo jolt]

@fathom anvil Shem + 4 wilders, doesnt work for hard mode at your stage?

[fathom anvil]

Never tried. My wilders are not great

I can finish, but can't beat the boss, which is the main reason for hard mode

[pale rover]

@fathom anvil For your lineup, I'd go 220 Shemira 200 everyone else if you can. If not, 220 your frontline and reset Brutus to 200 when you can 200 everyone else. If it's not directly lineup-related, kindly ask/answer in #classic-questions. Thanks. @astral marsh

[fierce kayak]

Aero is here 👏

[pseudo bear]

Yay!

[indigo jolt]

You should give it a go personally Poison relics make it easy, other i switch to 4 LB + Shem if i get the % def one.

[pale kettle]

how you pass this one?

[pale rover]

@pseudo bear @fierce kayak I'm about to sleep!

[fathom anvil]

@pale rover 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[fierce kayak]

@pale rover Night my lady

[pseudo bear]

@pale rover Night Potastati!

[pale rover]

Have a good day everyone. Good luck with lineup advice and progression.☺️

🥔

[orchid moth]

Feel like I can pass this but not sure what I'm missing about positioning and char lineup on this stage

[indigo jolt]

@orchid moth Nemora middle to charm fareal, is best advice for any fareal stage.

[fierce kayak]

@orchid moth always nemora mirror position fareal to charm him. If tasi also banish fareal, drop tasi

[lusty meadow]

https://i.imgur.com/Idwe4HF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UMSseYf.jpg

Could help with the line up for this, hitting that brick wall again

[orchid moth]

I thought so but she always charms the horse lol and yeah tasi does. Thanks I'll try it.

[indigo jolt]

Just need to keep retrying it.

[orchid moth]

👌 weee here I go

[south herald]

@lusty meadow try
Lucius
Estrilda
Belinda
Shem
Saveas

[orchid moth]

Yeah that was way better after 5 tries @indigo jolt barely barely lost. This will work eventually :)

@indigo jolt

😂 faster than expected

[indigo jolt]

Just remember the advice about fareal, starts appearing everywhere now.

[orchid moth]

Hes so good now. Used to be trash lol. Thanks

[lusty meadow]

Didn't work @south herald

[south herald]

@lusty meadow try arden instead of lucius

[lusty meadow]

Okaydoke, will try that :)

[blazing nexus]

Hey cam I get some help for 8-40

[lusty meadow]

No luck either @south herald

[south herald]

@blazing nexus u might want to start putting heroes into ur resonating crystal first

[grand dragon]

Help

[south herald]

@lusty meadow u might want to start afking a bit because that stage is a hard stage in general

[blazing nexus]

@south herald aero left it open to put on what heroes y'all suggested I should use

[lusty meadow]

Alright, no problem! Thank you @south herald

[south herald]

@blazing nexus try
Rosaline
Hogan
Belinda
Khasos
Sphinx chick

[blazing nexus]

Will try thank you @south herald I'll let you know how it goes

[pale kettle]

no one has any idea?

@pale kettle gimmie a minute

Show me all your heroes

here

Just use like thoran lucius front

Tasi lyca ira back

If you have duras call give to tasi

[foggy crane]

Any suggestions? This level is friggen awful

[pale kettle]

i only got the shield one

[real jolt]

anyone have a setup for me for both pvp and pve?

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle try more

alright it kinda seems rng based

Yeah lol this game is rng based

[pseudo bear]

@real jolt For Pve, you kinda need to adapt to stages but something like this should be alright: position 1-5; Brutus Lucius Savaes Fawkes Tasi. Swap out Fawkes for Belinda if you need more dmg. Same comp for Pvp defense tbh cuz Tasi and Fawkes gives a lot of cc

[flint cairn]

@foggy crane did it with Brutus, vurk, numisu, Shemira, lyca. Like 900k pow

@foggy crane wait i was wrong

[mild wing]

@pale kettle it's very rng based

@pale kettle crits dodges all kinds of stuff majec huge difference

[foggy crane]

@flint cairn mmm ok thanks. I barely have braulers though sadly

[solemn gull]

Any help guys?

[atomic notch]

Who should I replace with Thoran ?
Or just keep my team that way ?

[harsh smelt]

Ok, should I feed estrilda and myreal to mythic+ Belinda, or leg Rowan or Rosaline? Or wait on it all

[winged lodge]

No you should not ascend heroes with 5* heroes it's a waste that you will regret later on when you will need this specific hero.

[pale kettle]

stuck again any ideas?

[cosmic quartz]

I can't pass this can I?

[winged lodge]

@cosmic quartz You can change Numisu for Rosaline and switch Belinda with Saveas place. You can also Switch Hogan and Hendrick.

[cosmic quartz]

Got really close with your formation, but failed 3/3 times

[winged lodge]

I can see that you leveled up 2 buddies bellow can't you reset them and use their XP for others?

[cosmic quartz]

Will do, which ones do I level up?

[winged lodge]

Well if you use RosalineXBelinda tactic it would be Belinda but most tutorials says Saveas wich I agree since he carry the whole early game. You can also equally level them up. Just look at what give you the most and play with it.

[cosmic quartz]

Ok, thanks!

[olive fossil]

What should I use for my lineup? I’m currently stuck at 6.28

[sand rune]

I’m building up my Lightbearer Team for the Faction Tower. Any suggestions on who I should ascend next?

[olive fossil]

Could someone help me configure my team ?Been playing for just over a week but got stuck (pref. through dm)

[vital wing]

Hey guys, i'm stuck here at 15-36 can someone help me ?

[half ermine]

mythic belinda or mythic+ lucius?

[vital wing]

what ?

[grizzled yew]

@half ermine i would go for mythic+ lucius if u ask me

[tacit kayak]

ideas for 20-12?

[half ermine]

@grizzled yew sounds good, thanks

[grizzled yew]

@tacit kayak do u have athalia?

[tacit kayak]

only at E+, but yes

[rough ether]

Thoughts on optimal lineups for pve? I'm stuck at 6-28 right now against Brutus. I have all the wilder champs under the crystal, and I have one more slot to play with! I'm trying to get everyone to 81,then perhaps over level saveas to a point where he can carry hard: see below, forgot to attach

[foggy radish]

Am i on the right track or what Do i need to Change or Focus on? :) at 8-12 atm

[grizzled yew]

@tacit kayak try using her instead of lyca and make her attack fareal

@foggy radish lucius and hogan front, belinda, shemira back, now either raine, saveas or tasi, raine more dmg and better aura, tasi cc, saveas more dmg, u can even use arden in some stages

[foggy radish]

Sadly my tanks are dying pretty fast :( but thx for the advice :)

[grizzled yew]

@rough ether by do u mean for campaign or bosses?

[rough ether]

@grizzled yew campaign!

[grizzled yew]

@rough ether lucius, hogan front, back saveas, numisu and rosaline, if it doesn't worl try switching in nemora, arden or lyca, every stage is different, just dont take ou saveas, u dont have a dmg dealer besides him atm

[foggy radish]

@grizzled yew what should i Focus in leveling? What you think?

[ashen mantle]

Done 8-20 :)

[grizzled yew]

@foggy radish shemira to 140,and try ascending saveas, only use fodder heroes, dont use ascended tier

[ashen mantle]

Would love if i had a second tank :(

Something like lucius/hogan/brutus work great as a frontline heroes

[rough ether]

@grizzled yew thanks, I'll try that, been mostly playing around. Do you feel that faction bonus is worth it? Or at least the first tier of bonuses?

[ashen mantle]

@rough ether try lucius, hogan frontline; saveas, arden, lyca backline after arden is 81 and focus on leveling saveas after that

[foggy radish]

@grizzled yew okay thx man :)

[rough ether]

@ashen mantle cheers, will give it a go, then keep levelling saveas :p

[fierce kayak]

@ashen mantle Master roky is Green

[ashen mantle]

@fierce kayak yas :)

[fierce kayak]

Gratz

[ashen mantle]

@rough ether oh can u send a ss"screenshot" of the campain level

[sand rune]

Stuck on 18-20, if anyone can help, thanks!

[fierce kayak]

@sand rune

[tame vigil]

Any ideas?

[grizzled yew]

@tame vigil use athalia instead of lyca and make her hit saveas

[maiden quest]

you should really be using Saveas as your carry instead of Shemira; also, put Nemora on the bottom so she can charm the enemy Saveas.

[tame vigil]

Saveas overlvling isn’t possible though because of my lack of fodder units

[rough ether]

@ashen mantle yes, my bad, I guess that should be standard!

[maiden quest]

yeah, you should probably have focused on getting Saveas to L+ instead of Brutus

[tame vigil]

Ye I’ve tried changing Nemora around, I’ll use Athalia for now and report back then

[ashen mantle]

The problem is that saveas is 2 low level, so ur missing dmg

[sand rune]

@fierce kayak thanks, that’s really helpful. So you don’t find Arden to be an asset here?

[maiden quest]

@rough ether yeah, in this game, you typically want your main damage dealer to be ~20 levels ahead of the rest of your team, rather than evenly leveled

[fierce kayak]

@sand rune erm.. actually I forgot about that stage. Sometimes I just mix and match and see what gives the best result. Then I keep trying 🙂

[rough ether]

@maiden quest ty, just started like a week ago! Just learning the ropes

[grizzled yew]

@maiden quest i suggest 40 lvls

[maiden quest]

hard to do 40 levels when you just start

[grizzled yew]

Well if ur carry is 80 and the rest 40 its doable

[maiden quest]

oh, I meant more like you probably won't have enough essence or ascension fodder

[rough ether]

Will report back when my saveas is high and everyone at least 81!

[ashen mantle]

That wont help much when the main dmg dealer is the same level :)

And in early game its normal that u have to w8 for hero exp :)and get stuck on levels all the time

[untold maple]

What is going to be the best team for Saveas?

[noble fog]

@untold maple He needs a reliable tank.

[pseudo bear]

@untold maple You could try Ulmus Savaes Belinda Raine and Rosalina for pure dmg but yeah you kinda need a main tank which ulmus isn’t one. Could swap raine out for lyca for that initial haste

[sand rune]

Anyone got some advice on who I should ascend in my Lightbearer team for the Faction Tower? Thanks!

[noble fog]

Fawkes 🙌

oh wait . If you can get Estrilda to mythic already, maybe you should go for her. But Fawkes is really helpful.

[pseudo bear]

Yeah I would recommend Estrilda as well but Fawkes is not a bad choice

[sand rune]

I can do both, I’ve got enough fodder, I think.

Nvm, I need one more.

[noble fog]

Getting another L+ food would take a long time so you probably should just go for Estrilda to secure another mythic.

[pseudo bear]

Yeah plus Fawkes don’t need high ascension as much as other unit

[sand rune]

Good advice, I’ll go with Estrilda.

[untold maple]

who would you all say is my best tank?

[pseudo bear]

@untold maple I would rank Hogan first, then Grezhul and Ulmus

[untold maple]

Hrmm, and Hogan would rank higher than Hendrick?

[pale kettle]

Should I reset to and put shemar at 181 or just get everyone to 180

[steel moat]

Definitely shemira to 181 first but I wouldn't reset anyone below 161

[noble fog]

@untold maple Hogan is the best tank early game. I really haven't tried Grez early game so I'd vote for Hogan and Estrilda.

[pseudo bear]

@untold maple Ohh didn’t see hendrik and Estrilda there. Yeah like LumosNox said, Hogan and Hendrik is the way to go imo since you already have a lot of lb to use them with

[untold maple]

Didn't you first say Hogan and Estrilda @pseudo bear ? 😛

[pseudo bear]

@untold maple yep change my mind haha

[craggy talon]

I can’t clear this to save my life, help

[untold maple]

there we go, finally got my whambam combo off

[pale kettle]

Can I get some noob help here on who I should have on my team please ?

[pseudo bear]

@pale kettle May be position 1-5 Brutus Lucius Belinda Lyca Arden? You could try putting nem or rosalina in there as well depends on matchup.Put arden in crystal too. His two roots is amazing! You might want to consider ascending Savaes and overleveled him since he is a good carry till 160

[pale kettle]

Sorry for my noobiness is strong , position 1-5 ?

[wise merlin]

@craggy talon Hey there

Please reset your Saveas, and level up Shemira above level 161 (even level 160 will do as she gains a lot of damage, and durability at that level as well.)

She will make a greater carry due to her heal, overall damage, and silence of enemy mages / ranged heroes

Try the following formation after that part is done :

Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Hogan
Arden

[pale kettle]

And how the hell you over level something ?

[pseudo bear]

@pale kettle Ohh you see before you fight , the position on the battlefield will be empty on the left hand side. You could see the number on there from 1-5. Over level meaning the thing that you did with your Lucius and Brutus. Overlevelling carry is a generally a good idea since you know.. they can carry

[pale kettle]

Ahh basically focus on your best toons to carry the fight

[foggy crane]

Suggestions?

[pseudo bear]

@pale kettle yeah something like that

@foggy crane If you reset Brutus and level him to 200, do you have enough dust to push Shemira to 240?

[wise merlin]

I'd never want to deal with an enemy Tasi tbh.. seems a little too op for me.

[pale kettle]

@pseudo bear thx!

[wise merlin]

@foggy crane I'd place Nemora in Shemira's place as she sustains better... other than that, I'm really clueless.

[coarse mirage]

I have a problem with my account
When i want to link my acc to google, i see "account already linked" and I enter to the "new" account on my google, but my main acc no linked. I want to recover this, I can give you screenhots from payment at game for proofs.

[craggy talon]

@wise merlin beast, just what I needed

[wise merlin]

@craggy talon Happy to help

[foggy crane]

@pseudo bear Yeah, but I'm halfway there on my own

@wise merlin that worked

[wise merlin]

@foggy crane Keep going strong friend, you've got this

[runic tundra]

Any suggestion?

[foggy crane]

@wise merlin Thanks, just hit ch 21 lmao

[pseudo bear]

@runic tundra Swap Shem and Tasi and hope that nem charm Ogi?

[wise merlin]

@runic tundra Before receiving help, please answer the following questions :

1. Who does Tasi Banish?
2. How quick does enemy Ira kill Shemira?
3. Is Nemora able to level up to level 161 yet?
4. May you show your full hero roster for a better advice?

[runic tundra]

@wise merlin Tasi banish Kasos. not enough dust need 1k

[wise merlin]

If Shemira can sustain Ira's damage, put her frontline, and Brutus to back her up in the bottom frontline up against Ogi and Kaz.

[runic tundra]

@wise merlin

[wise merlin]

If not, put the formation like this :

Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi

Also.. wow, that L+ mirael as 5 main is depressing to see, hope you'll get your 2nd LB Mythic soon!

@runic tundra

[runic tundra]

@wise merlin Ok will try.. when Shermia start ult , about 5 seconds. the problem is all 5 enemies still alive... about mirael L+ and 2 E+.. i don't know who would i give upgrade but i won't upgrade Belinda because there is not enough copies.. i have a hard decision which should i go Grezhul or Fawkes? Ferael can straight M+ but no 4 copies.

[civic cedar]

New to the game, what should I work toward? Who do I need to find/level up? Thanks!

[wise merlin]

@runic tundra I would wait while making my pulls, and pull LB from faction scrolls if I were you, getting that last Mythic tier lightbearer will help you a lot as you already have the L+ LB fodder for them..

It might be risky because Faction scrolls don't guarantee Ascended tier heroes, but that's what I'd do, if I was f2p..

@civic cedar Sit back, relax, and enjoy the game You're at a too early of a stage to worry about that, re-comment once you're stuck at levels! (For example, 100, 120, 140, etcetera.)

[runic tundra]

@civic cedar Nemora , Belinda , Hendrik , Saveas and Rosa

@wise merlin Yes. that's what i intend.. i wait until enough. that is when i will.. oh well i need one more mythic lol. i have 2 GB E+.. thinking Ferael or Grezhul lol

[wise merlin]

It won't help you since you won't be able to push them to Mythic

[runic tundra]

indeed but 161 is greater. isnt it?

[wise merlin]

But since Grezhul is purchasable from the Challenger store (meaning - giving up on buying Atahlia / Ezizh from there) , and you need to rush that level as soon as possible, then, Grezhul is your best bet.

[runic tundra]

i still have 300k coin challenger.. if i buy Grezhul, can straight Mythic
that's why i hesitate Fawkes or Grezhul

[jagged vector]

Been playing a few weeks now. Stuck on 8-40, any tips?

[wise merlin]

@runic tundra Fawkes then... Better for Wrizz, Better for Lab, Better for hard mode Wrizz, Better for Campaign, Better abilities in general than Grezhul.

Not to mention, he definitively will deal more damage than Grezhul, while all Grezhul could do is tank, and knockup.

@jagged vector Hey there friend, how're you doing? ^^

May you please share a screen of the enemy formation vs your own? I'd love to see the might difference, and the possible strategies to give a much more efficient advice. 😊

[jagged vector]

@wise merlin Sure thing, give me a moment to screen cap 😄

[wise merlin]

Of course. ^^

[pale kettle]

So need some advice, do I leave everyone as is and just keep leveling shemira to 220, or reset the right 3 and pump Shem up to 220 then put the rest back on them?

[wise merlin]

@jagged vector Here's your solution :

Could you get Raine to level 101? It'll make a huge difference for you, as the might difference is showing that most of the might gap is from the level 101+ ability boost for the enemy, I'm sure that after the global level up for Crystalized heroes at level 101, your odds of winning by the same formation will increase.

Also, don't forget to enhance your equipment if you've forgotten!

If you have, please enhance Belinda's protection gears, so she won't be targetted by enemy Silvina.

Try and push Raine into the formation, her knockdown and damage boost can help a lot!

I'd say a formation like this :

Belinda
Kaz
Nemora (Charm Isabella or Brutus, both work)
Raine
Athalia (To prevent Niru from reaping Raine in no time)

@pale kettle It depends... are you stuck? If not, take the game slowly, take some time off ^^

[sharp escarp]

Help with lineup? Feels like I miss something

[tender ermine]

Can someone help me determine a decent formation to work on? Really lost on finding a balanced formation with good union buffs

[pale kettle]

@wise merlin yeah stuck on this

[jagged vector]

@wise merlin Thank you so much for the info 😃

[indigo jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/610090852253171712/Screenshot_20190811-133537.png
Possible for floor 58 with current heroes?
Power is off as haven't changed gear over.

[wise merlin]

@tender ermine Aim for a 2nd Morvus to E, so you could use Elite+ Morvus and Hogan (the level 1 Elite+ Hogan) as fodder for Belinda, It'd help you a lot!

@sharp escarp Saveas will do absolutely nothing against Estrilda, an enemy Hypogean mage, and an Angelo, if anything, he's at a faction disadvantage. Do seek for a Lightbearer carry, or rely on RNG to collect the win for you, as such :

Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Rosaline (If she will follow Brutus, you can only imagine how crazy his heal would get with Rosaline's permanent energy increase.)

@jagged vector You're welcome at any time, dear friend ❤

@indigo jolt Have you transfered the best gear to the 5 Lightbearers, most people tend to forget about gear, artifacts, etcetera.

And I'm only saying that because I'm looking at the might difference. ^

[indigo jolt]

Yeah, the pic is just from now. I tried it a bunch with gear changed over earlier.

[wise merlin]

How close did you get?

[indigo jolt]

Best attempt was dying to athalia as i kill brutus.
With Sav left alive as well.

[pale kettle]

Any ideas how to beat this? I tried so many different formations ;-;

[wet warren]

Tips ?

[tender ermine]

@wise merlin ok thanks for the help! Do you think I should just keep rolling with hogan, Grehzul, Raine, belinda, and shemira formation? Hopefully can pull a Lucius soon to replace hogan

[wise merlin]

@pale kettle Of course, but firstly, I'd like for you to answer this question. ^^

1. Do you intend on using that Mercenary Grezhul?

@wet warren Like so :

Belinda
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Arden

^ Providing 3 wilders faction bonus and faction advantage of Lyca, Tasi, and Arden, over Ferael, Isabella, Grezhul, and Silvina.

If Silvina does not crit but does 1shot your lowest defense hero, enhance their defense gear, by a lot! don't be greedy!

@tender ermine You're always welcome! feel free to DM me from time to time regarding questions. ^^ I'm more than happy to answer ❤

[pale kettle]

@wise merlin I was preferably waiting on using him till I really have to use him. Coz I’ve gotta so close to beating this level I feel like I could just beat it without having to resort to using Grez

[mild wing]

@wise merlin You can always eat Hogan later, so if you have him as a best option i see no reason not to use him

[wise merlin]

@pale kettle That's understandable. ^^

Here's the best formation I can come up with :

Mehira
Kaz
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi

@mild wing I'm afraid you've got the wrong ping 😅

[mild wing]

@pale kettle omg oops lol

thats embarrassing

[wise merlin]

@mild wing Happens to the best of us, no sweat

[mild wing]

someones gonna be real confused

[pale kettle]

I tried that formation three times bu no luck 😦 do you think I had to use grez then @wise merlin

[wise merlin]

@pale kettle Instead of Mehira, then, try Nara in the formation, but in different placements :

Tasi
Kaz
Shemira
Lyca
Nara (to prevent Niru from acting at all, and preferably getting him targetted by your Shemira will lead to a swift execution from Nara's ultimate move, if she can load it up.)

Also, what artifacts do you own currently?

[pale kettle]

I only have one, dura’s grace but I have that one on serius

@wise merlin

[sharp sorrel]

I'm a bit stumped on this one. Any advice would be appreciated?

[wise merlin]

@pale kettle Hand it over to Kaz, her survivability against the enemy Vedan, and her dodge will help you a lot, she just has to be put there, play around her in that spot and I'm sure you'll find something that will work.

(Also, Kaz's dodge is RNG, try multiple times before exclaiming!)

[steel moat]

@sharp sorrel

Belinda
Shemira
Athalia
Thane
Fawkes

Try this~

Make sure to time fawkes ult when brutus goes immune

[ashen mantle]

Well rip underleveled again xD

[wise merlin]

Seems like a pretty bad struggle 😶 @ashen mantle

[ashen mantle]

:) playing alt while w8ing for loot on main :)

[visual quiver]

what stage is that roky?

[sharp sorrel]

@steel moat Aha! Perfection! Thank you! I always forget about Fawkes

[ashen mantle]

8-28 @visual quiver

[visual quiver]

how did you beat 8-20 with that team? lol

[steel moat]

Getting everyone above 110 should do the trick

[ashen mantle]

@visual quiver think that was 8-20

Took a few retrys with different heroes and pos

[visual quiver]

That‘s my team and I get destroyed

[ashen mantle]

Arden helps a ton

[visual quiver]

my arden is rare+

[ashen mantle]

Not the dmg but the cc root

[indigo jolt]

Also has 101 on all heroes, probably biggest difference.

[steel moat]

^^
How about switching saveas and ezih and put nemora on bottom back to charm vedan?

Unless tasi is banishing him ofc

[ashen mantle]

Not rly @indigo jolt

The problem with my alt is, i dont have fooder for saveas

[wise merlin]

Borrow from your main >_>

[pale kettle]

@atomic coral okay thank you!!! ^^

[ashen mantle]

I could but wheres the fun of that xD

[visual quiver]

@steel moat lol. I won on first try with your formation. thanks

[steel moat]

Ah nice!

[wise merlin]

@pale kettle Oh my 😂 Wrong ping perhaps?

[plucky flint]

19-12 for anyone that needs it. The first time I needed to break the standard wilder-shem-brutus meta to get through a stage. Estrilda knocks ogi back far enough that he doesnt destroy your backline. I borrowed an ascended tasi, but think it would work with a lesser ascended version (just with a lot more rng)

[pale kettle]

AHAHAH OMG YES IM SORRY @wise merlin I meant you😂😂

[vital briar]

Hi

[indigo jolt]

@plucky flint You forgot to ask lol..

[steel moat]

@plucky flint can i ask you how you beat 19-6? XD

[wise merlin]

No worries ☺ it happens to almost everyone ^^

[vital briar]

[ashen mantle]

[limber helm]

Hi all, I'm stuck at 7-40 for a few days. I also can't get through Laby anymore, whilst before I could beat the Laby runs easily. Should I remove the heroes from crystal? As it seems to calculate the total amount of all hero levels, but it's just becoming impossible to grind Laby at this point.

[wise merlin]

@plucky flint Your Tasi is... beautiful..

[plucky flint]

@indigo jolt lol. What was your solution, out of curiosity?

[limber helm]

https://imgur.com/a/wzDCmqh

https://imgur.com/a/QusKN4I

[wise merlin]

oH wait.. it's a Mercenary. Lol!

[vital briar]

[indigo jolt]

Is that 19-6? @steel moat

[steel moat]

This one T____T

[wise merlin]

@limber helm May you show the items you've chosen from completing stages within the Arcane Labyrinth? (The 3 cards you get to choose from after completing a Praetorian / Regular camp (Praetorian - Red flag camp)

@steel moat 19-38, Hm?

[ashen mantle]

@steel moat ill guess arden is killing u

[steel moat]

Wait 19-38 is like that too?

[plucky flint]

@indigo jolt yeah I thought about using athalia but didn’t have a crystal spot for her so needed to work around it

[indigo jolt]

Yeah 19-38 is replica,

Stuck on 19-24 now, full mauler team melts wilder supports.

[steel moat]

Partially arden but mainly kaz ogi and ira wrecking my frontline

[steel moat]

@limber helm perhaps use hogan up front instead of saveas? You have higher power over them so i think you can beat it with the right positioning

[indigo jolt]

@steel moat my solution.
Had chalice on shem.

[steel moat]

Thank you! I'll try with the mercenary brutus i just got

[wise merlin]

@indigo jolt I've beaten 19-24 with 4 wilders, 3 of them being supports (Lyca, Tasi, Arden, Kaz) and Shemira, Ascended tier, level 197

[steel moat]

I don't have chalice though T___T can't get past dismal descent

[wise merlin]

Dismal Descent doesn't have Chalice, it's from the Savage Wastes...

[indigo jolt]

@wise merlin Yeah i know i keep getting close but think its down to gear/lack of damage as get near end then get 1 shot. Just retrying it atm.

[steel moat]

You need to be a certain percentage into dismal descent to be able to access savage wastes

[indigo jolt]

You should be able to get enough of a %. Which route do you take, and i assume you have meta team? @steel moat

[wise merlin]

The true struggle is the Wastes.... that global health, and energy reduction per battle is frustrating. @steel moat

[ashen mantle]

[steel moat]

I have meta team but mythic+ estrilda instead of brutus, i think my relics are just shitty so i'm struggling a lot

[limber helm]

@steel moat I can't get the Ulmus down, he stays alive and wrecks all of them.

[indigo jolt]

@steel moat Whats your lyca like?

[steel moat]

Mythic at lvl179

[indigo jolt]

Then run that, i only ever run Brutus in PoT when their is enemy sav.

[ashen mantle]

@wise merlin where are u stuck at? :)

[steel moat]

Thanks, i'll reset and hopefully get through

[indigo jolt]

Shem Lyca front, Arden tasi Nem back.

[wise merlin]

I can't beat a single person in the enemy team, no matter how hard I try, and I took that picture at the nick of time, since right after then, my phone died 😂

[ashen mantle]

Shemira gets destroyed i see xD

[wise merlin]

Yep! essentially yeah, she dies first.

And my Shemira's a tough cookie, she doesn't fall fast generally

[ashen mantle]

Ik but lyca destroys her

[wise merlin]

Yeppers.

[novel spruce]

11-40 help?

[ashen mantle]

Think i used thane,shemira,tasi,lyca,arden on that lvl :), but u dont have thane @wise merlin

[indigo jolt]

My best setup so far.

[wise merlin]

@ashen mantle I do! he's Elite tier. 😂

[ashen mantle]

Would lend u my merc but cant anymore :( @wise merlin

[wise merlin]

I don't do mercenaries anyways 😂

It's okay, thanks for the offer though

Ever since the feature was out I've been gagging, endlessly.

[ashen mantle]

same

Used a merc 2 times only

[wise merlin]

Never have, never will

I prefer honest progress

[wet warren]

Tips please

[indigo jolt]

@wet warren Tasi banishes fareal i believe?

[wet warren]

yea

[indigo jolt]

Drop tasi for nemora, put nemora opposite fereal. Maybe swap brutus and belinda positions. Retry till charm on fareal.

[oblique phoenix]

This stage is harming my sense of well-being, please advise

[indigo jolt]

Who does tasi banish?

[wet warren]

thanks @indigo jolt second try

[full flicker]

What's a good team for Wrizz and Soren pls?

[ornate totem]

Belinda and seavas are carrys brutus and lucius tanks and rowan sapart!! What to Do??

[indigo jolt]

Could you try word your question a bit better? i am not sure what you're asking.

[ornate totem]

@indigo jolt Who to use as carry belinda or seavas or meaby wait for shem but i personaly don't like her??

[indigo jolt]

Saveas is arguably the best carry pre 160, once you can get Shemira to mythic and 161 she is better.

[sly dirge]

how you upload multiple pictures in one comment

[indigo jolt]

I would also consider resetting Rowan out of your top 5, and levelling arden as he is L+, and you can get access to his 141 ability next which is 3 roots.

@sly dirge On pc or phone?

[sly dirge]

pc

[indigo jolt]

Should just be able to shift select multiple. like how you'd normally select multiple files.

[obsidian bridge]

17-28 is giving me hell. I’m throwing everything at the board here

[indigo jolt]

@obsidian bridge
Think i ran
Shem
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Tasi

[ornate totem]

@indigo jolt what about belinda will be mif soon!!personaly i like her more then shem??

[indigo jolt]

Its possible to carry with belinda but harder, as belinda has no sustain and her aoe ulti can completely miss. So need more setup.
Most people use Shem, so more people can usually give advice about setups.

[sly dirge]

i'm stuck at 6-4. It looks like I need to wait a few days to lvlup heroes?or i can change smth.

cant upload multiple screens. shift/ctrl dont work only at this channel

[hasty night]

@sly dirge general tip is to level up your carry like 20 over the other heroes

saveas is a good carry until lv 160, so dump your levels into him first. for example, him at lv 81 while all the others at 40 is acceptable. After saveas is at max, start leveling your main tank. Aka, brutus for you. Then level the rest of your team

[ornate totem]

@indigo jolt i tried arden but he don't work in my pack and plus my tanks relie on him to get ults faster and with arden my tanks die to fast!! And about shem she is proebebly going to B team!!

Relie on rowan*

[hasty night]

@ornate totem shemira gets a lot better once she hits lv 161, because then she is able to both tank AND deal massive area damage.

[empty crow]

Is This good?

[indigo jolt]

@ornate totem Have you tried running Brutus Sav, Arden Tasi Lyca ?

[burnt knot]

21-4

[sly dirge]

@hasty night ty gonna try smth

[ornate totem]

Its not intresting if all game is just shemira and shemira so i desidet to go with belinda instead!!

[empty crow]

Im stuck 8-36 Any help? 😄

[ornate totem]

@indigo jolt tried still not working due to not having them enogth acsesed!!

[hasty night]

do that if you want, no one is forcing you to go shem. But shemira will carry you far. If you want to go for a lightbearer carry then Thane is a good choice, better than belinda imo

[ornate totem]

@hasty night thanks😀😀

[sly dirge]

@hasty night oh man. i reset my 2heroes for lvlup saveas but i cant llvup him cause all heroes in pentagram should be 60. so i should wait 17hours now for EXP 😃

[winged peak]

Im new to the game and been progressing quite well. I also read up on the tier lists but Im having issues on choosing what characters I should focus on to go for legendaries.
Currently at 8-12 with the following lineup
https://gyazo.com/b011ffb356815b8d62f227cbcb8aada7

Any tips on how I can build a better team? Or do I already have characters I should be swapping out?
https://gyazo.com/ed7e14cae90171b486d62e1d21451331

got a saveas epic+ today and I know he is very good but not sure what to swap out for him

[empty crow]

I would Suggest maybe putting in Belinda instead of some one on the backline, cause the lightbringer buff, but I'm not entirely sure

[winged peak]

I tried that but Belinda really feels underwhelming compared to the other 2 non lightbringers

[empty crow]

Have you tried swapping positions?

[winged peak]

Yes, I think the biggest issue is the item/level discrepancy atm (112k vs 163k). Just trying to think ahead on what I should be focussing on now that I'm getting close to my first legendary character

[bright geyser]

This is embarrassing it's not even a BOSS and I'm struggling... Is it time to stop and grind up EXP? I can't beat this lol

[hasty night]

@sly dirge oof, sorry, forgot about that. At higher levels theres a 40 level gap, at lower theres 20

[indigo jolt]

@bright geyser Is your arden faster then theirs?

[versed canopy]

Hi any advices for 17-20 ?

[lofty depot]

@bright geyser what is that border around Shemiras and Brutus GB/Mauler Icon?

[indigo jolt]

@lofty depot You get that when you unlock their signature item, available after ascended to Mythic.

[lofty depot]

My Shemira doesn't have the same one

[maiden quest]

stuck on 16-12, could use some help

[sly sparrow]

Need help with 12-6 please

[lofty depot]

@maiden quest Try Arden against Silvina

Edit: Or Athalia or Fawkes lol

[indigo jolt]

@lofty depot Your Shem does, but not your Brutus.

[maiden quest]

I was using him at first, but he gets two-shotted

Silvina just runs rampant over my backline lol

[lofty depot]

Yeah I hate her, do you have Nara?

[maiden quest]

only Elite, but I guess I can try it

[lofty depot]

She is amazing against Silvina! Sadly Silvina always gets 1 hit first before she pulls her

[maiden quest]

it's so lame that the AI gets to have ascended versions of legendary heroes

[lofty depot]

I always use Mehira behind Shem because Mehira boosts Shems ult so Shem Insta-kills silvina after Nara pulls her

My setup is

Mehira
Shem
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca

If that doesn't work I replace Tasi/Lyca and try with others like Athalia/Nara/Fawkes/Arden etc etc

If THAT doesn't work I just try anything haha

Could also place Mehira in the middle (back), just keep her behind Shem! She also trances the enemy team AND boosts ult, she is super OP, even at E

[maiden quest]

yeah, I haven't really had problems before this stupid Silvina lol

[lofty depot]

Silvina always goes for my Mehira so I remove Lyca and put Nara and she pulls Silvina so Mehira can ult so they attack each other and then Shem ults and then I win haha

[maiden quest]

unfortunately both my nara and mehira are only elite, so their survivability is low

I might just need to wait on gear cuz my gear situation is pretty awful except for Shem

[lofty depot]

My Mehira has been at E forever, she can "die" 3 times before actually dying, so she usually stays alive

Otherwise try Athalia and hope she Insta-stuns Silvina

Yeah maybe, you're probably more experienced than I am lol, you're two chapters ahead of me and have better heroes. I'm quite new to the game

[sly sparrow]

I need help too D:

[maiden quest]

@sly sparrow what's killing you? your setup looks okay

[sly sparrow]

Nvm just beat it lol

[maiden quest]

lol yeah, that makes sense to me

Wilder lineups with Arden and Nemora are good but also very RNG-based since it's all about your luck with charm and vines, so a lot of times you just have to retry over and over if you think you're close

[sly sparrow]

Got here lol

[maiden quest]

swap Saveas and Brutus, swap Lyca and Nemora, and then RNG until you charm Saveas

[grizzled yew]

@sly sparrow try brutus in front of golus, lucius 2nd tank, and backline athali, fawkes and belinda in order

@sly sparrow fck sry i ment for the post before, try pandas idea first

[sly sparrow]

Will try both ty

[grizzled yew]

@sly sparrow just dont put lucius infront of vedan

[visual quiver]

Any way to beat this stage?

silvina attacks tasi btw

[maiden quest]

you have good heroes, you just need to overlevel your Saveas a lot more relative to the rest of your team

actually, I guess he's almost at his level cap since he's only L

[visual quiver]

guess it's time to afk a lot for the first time. I get like 2 sav level ups/12h afk. sav cap is 140. so I can still level him a bit

[maiden quest]

you don't have one now, but do try to start ascending an Arden

[visual quiver]

I do have a rare + one lol

[maiden quest]

since you have Lyca, he is amazingly good post-141

[sly sparrow]

Ah damn... no matter what i do i lose again... sad

[bright geyser]

@indigo joltYes

@lofty depotThe icon is Lv20+

[lofty depot]

Aaah okay ty

[indigo jolt]

@bright geyser Could try
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Lyca
Nem

Also, are the costs the same from 11-20 as 1-10 and for 20-30?

[bright geyser]

@indigo jolt Yeah once I got 20 my first was 10 and the next two were 20 though

[indigo jolt]

Ah, so doesnt stay 10 for first 4 levels.

[bright geyser]

Nope and I'm only +22 and it's 20 so not sure if it goes up every few lvls

[maiden quest]

at least from 1-10 it definitely goes up every few levels

[bright geyser]

Also Shemira always dies, even with perfect Arden roots

[indigo jolt]

ok, then try
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

I should of asked what artifact you have on shem.

[bright geyser]

Eye

Also didn't work everything dies even faster

[tawny jewel]

@visual quiver i think you should try
Saveas
Skreg
Estrilda
Hogan
Belinda
Idc if i get hate for this

[bright geyser]

@indigo jolt my original setup finally worked lol...

[tawny jewel]

@pearl oyster show full roster

[indigo jolt]

Gratz, wilders are rng heaven.

[tawny jewel]

@pearl oyster okay, now this is my opinion but i would try to run 4 lbs and athalia

[hasty night]

but why...

[tawny jewel]

Or
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Estrilda
Thane

[hasty night]

belinda should always be behind estrilda

[pearl oyster]

any order

[tawny jewel]

Idk i love lbs so i am biased

@hasty night a true

[pearl oyster]

my estrilda is weak and so is my thane

[visual quiver]

@tawny jewel tried your formation but hard to tell if it could work because I only have equipment for 1 1/2 tanks

[tawny jewel]

@visual quiver oh ok

[indigo jolt]

@pearl oyster
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Shem
Athalia

or Lyca
Shem bottom.

[tawny jewel]

@visual quiver i think skreg is actually decent at rly early game

@pearl oyster does shem front line instadie to kaz?

[pearl oyster]

lemme try

[visual quiver]

yeah but silvina insta deletes belinda

[indigo jolt]

WOuld probably dietop as both lyca and kaz...

[tawny jewel]

@visual quiver use rosaline

[plush wren]

Any suggestions? I've tried reversing my comp to have sav and brut on top and bottom, neither works. Should I get someone else up to 61? I have a slot.

[pearl oyster]

@indigo jolt THANK YOU

[indigo jolt]

Yw, you should be able to cruise through levels with that power.

[tawny jewel]

@pearl oyster i was thinking about smthing like this
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Lucius
Nemora
Maybe you can root them with haste before shem dies

Nvm

[maiden quest]

@plush wren Rosaline doesn't have good synergy with Saveas because of the way his ult works; I'd remove either Brutus or Hogan and put Saveas in the front and change up your backline (like go Wilders or something)

[tawny jewel]

How do i do this

[indigo jolt]

@tawny jewel Who does silvina go on?

[tawny jewel]

Mehira but she gets her minions off

[maiden quest]

try Rosaline; when she's in the backline with Shem in the frontline, she can usually dodge the initial hit

[indigo jolt]

Probably try
Arden
Lucius
Lyca
Shem
Mehira

[tawny jewel]

Ok

Lucius dies in half a second from vedan

[indigo jolt]

Roster plz.

[pearl oyster]

help pls

[indigo jolt]

@pearl oyster Drop tasi for Nemora.
backline of Arden Nemora Athalia

[tawny jewel]

@pearl oyster athalia on numisu?

[pale kettle]

I will wait for my turn

[stark lotus]

@pearl oyster You need nemora. She must Charme ferael

[pearl oyster]

nvm just beat it lmao, thank u again @stark lotus

[tawny jewel]

@pale kettle just say it

[pearl oyster]

oh wait not u lmao, i meant @indigo jolt also yes @tawny jewel thats what i did

[pale kettle]

What the frick do i need to do to improve the performance of certain heroes.

[maiden quest]

wow, you don't even have Saveas leveled: that's mistake number one lol

[indigo jolt]

@tawny jewel Shem Lyca front, try both ways around, Arden Mehira Tasi/Gorvo back.

[pale kettle]

Yeah i have heard that before

[tawny jewel]

@pale kettle
Saveas
Brutus
The celestial chicks
Estrilda
Belinda
(Imo)

[pale kettle]

Which ones need to be boosted? And what heroes do need to be in the frontline

[tawny jewel]

@indigo jolt better but tasi insta dies without doing anything

@pale kettle saveas as high as possible. Then brutus , then all the others

[pale kettle]

Okay give me a few minutes

[indigo jolt]

Brutus, Estrilda front if unclear.

[pearl oyster]

what faction to spend scrolls on?

[tawny jewel]

@indigo jolt much better. Came down to this

Tasi does nothing but silvina jumps on her and allows mehira to massive ult

[indigo jolt]

@pearl oyster Wilder.

[pearl oyster]

so now, hope i get someone and i did the 2700 and got skreg just now :')

got lyca :)

[indigo jolt]

😃

[pearl oyster]

ascended her to Legendary

[indigo jolt]

@pearl oyster One note, i would generally save fodder and only ascend from e+ if you can get L+ straight away.

[pearl oyster]

Oh, alright

[indigo jolt]

Trying to save up fodder for going to M and M+ is more important for your main heros, then getting everyone L.

[pearl oyster]

i dont have any mythic wilder hero yet, i wanted it to be either tasi or lyca vut i couldnt get enough tasi pepehands

[pale kettle]

@tawny jewel Is this decent to your instructions?

[pearl oyster]

this team comp is insane

[tawny jewel]

@pale kettle i think this is rhe best you can do

@pale kettle i would get brutus to 100 now

[pale kettle]

Thats my second mission to succes

[tawny jewel]

@pale kettle tho if you dont get another brutus copy you might wanna put him in crystal as he will reach lvl cap

[slate tapir]

Need help on who to use

[pale kettle]

Im still in a low stage of the game, learning along the way

[tawny jewel]

To avoid lvl cap, just focus on ascending 1 hero per tier( 2 heroes from the tier you invest the most in).

@pale kettle i am just telling you some important tipsi wish i knew :)

[plush wren]

@slate tapir can you screenshot the fight screen so we can see what you're up against?

[pale kettle]

I thank you very much for that, really. I hope i will understand what kind of changes affect my gameplay

[plush wren]

Also, @pale kettle I'm also new and I found the pinned post in #classic-questions super useful

[tawny jewel]

@slate tapir belinda doesnt fit

I meant rosaline* ( w8ing for timer)

[slate tapir]

Who should I switch her with ?

[tawny jewel]

Can you get saveas to elite?

[pale kettle]

I have had time to read those yesterday, but i was still struggling with the decisions i was making

[plush wren]

I'm following that and I have my sav at 100, and Brutus at 81, getting other tanks and supports to 80 now to push sav to 101

[pale kettle]

my lvl 100 sav and brutus get slaughtered at 6-36 within 30 seconds

[tawny jewel]

@pale kettle bcly use fodder wisely. As a new player you would think that getting 4 copies of a character is the hard part, but rly collecting fodder is more time consuming

[slate tapir]

I might be able to

[pale kettle]

Things like that make me question alot about this game

[tawny jewel]

@pale kettle i like this game because it requires you ti think abit and have patience

[indigo jolt]

Whic is 6- 36.

[pale kettle]

Yeah i figured that haha

[tawny jewel]

@slate tapir try to get him to elite and remember, never use characters with 4 moves as food

[pearl oyster]

brutus 181 or shem 201? becauuse my brutus doesnt have the immunity thing, he gets insta killed

[indigo jolt]

Still Shem 201.

[tawny jewel]

@pearl oyster ? He gets 7 seconds immunity atlvl 141

[pearl oyster]

i mean for not that long time

[plush wren]

@pale kettle I would've pushed saveas upto 101 with the rest sitting at 80 if I were you. From what I've been told over the days, getting your carry 20-40 levels higher than your tanks/supports is a priority and then the tanks and then supports. I'm sitting at 6-28 right now simply waiting to get units up to 80. I'm far underleveled since I've only been playing for 2 days. Hope that helps?

[pale kettle]

I cant, hes at max lvl cap

[indigo jolt]

@pale kettle Actual battle layout, thats not as helpful.

[blazing raptor]

can anyone help for my roster? im newbie.

[plush wren]

Ah yes, he's only at elite. I got lucky there tbh. Rolled a shit ton of maulers with one roll

[pale kettle]

Thats one hell of a lucky moment indeed

[tawny jewel]

@indigo jolt i cant do it. Shemira is left to 1v1 vedan...

[slate tapir]

Thanks all I’ll see what I can do

[plush wren]

I also use Hogan as a second tank, our lineups are pretty similar in that aspect

[acoustic hawk]

What do I do qq

[pale kettle]

I rolled with numisu, rosaline, isabella, thoran and silvina since the start

[indigo jolt]

What artifact you using on shem?@tawny jewel

[oak lance]

What should i use against 9-32?

[pearl oyster]

shem gets killed fast

[tawny jewel]

@indigo jolt eye

[indigo jolt]

Access to blade?

[pearl oyster]

wut blade?

oh i didnt get it yet, will get it when shem is 201 tho

[jovial moat]

can I get some major help here lol, no clue who to use any more

[plush wren]

@pale kettle did you get your artifact yet? And also noticed you haven't used your crystal?

[indigo jolt]

Duras blade.

@pearl oyster
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shem

[tawny jewel]

@jovial moat just get shem from lab and you will skip 3 chapters

[oak lance]

Any help?

[jovial moat]

@tawny jewel dude, I've already bought her twice from lab, and I used a m+ shem from mercs and she did absolute jack, shes not the answer with my comp, I get your answer all the time

[broken egret]

Takez wut, he can't even 161 her yet, so won't be going that fast

[ashen mantle]

@jovial moat shem gets stronger at 161

[tawny jewel]

@broken egret it was a joke answer

[jovial moat]

@oak lance lucius, brutus, saveas, nemora, lyca

[pearl oyster]

didnt work @indigo jolt

[tawny jewel]

@broken egret i told him to wait for 2 shem copies from lab

[jovial moat]

@ashen mantle ya I'm not at that point where i can get a 161, I've got a 150 and that's my best

[tawny jewel]

@jovial moat anw i think saveas is better than belinda

[blazing raptor]

can anyone help for my roster? im new. posted picture. which is worth?

[indigo jolt]

@jovial moat Try dropping gorvo for rosaline and have lyca tank, belinda behind.

[ashen mantle]

@jovial moat yeah but saying that shemira is kinda shit before 161, even if u get an ascended mercenry of her she wont do much

[jovial moat]

@blazing raptor lucius, tasi, khasos, saveas, and hogan is crap

[indigo jolt]

@pearl oyster Retry, you may need good rng, maybe try backline of Tasi Shem Arden

[broken egret]

Ye with Sav @160 you can hit chap 13 without M gear while rest of team is 140 and 141 arden

[blazing raptor]

@jovial moat you mean all is crap?

[jovial moat]

@ashen mantle just saying, I didnt come here to banter about shem, I came for help on my lineup lol

[tawny jewel]

Problem is, its hard to give your saveas faction bonus

[jovial moat]

@blazing raptor no just hogan lol

[pearl oyster]

@indigo jolt i did but still couldnt, but i'll do it when shem is 201 so dw, and thank u again lmao i did 30 stages with that comp

[ashen mantle]

@jovial moat ik

[plush wren]

Saveas will carry you for a while @blazing raptor

Elite>rare obviously though

[indigo jolt]

I doubt you need Shem 201, but ok.@pearl oyster What stage is it now?

[broken egret]

@blazing raptor reset your units, you should only level 5 units

[jovial moat]

@plush wren saveas never did anything for me ever, no clue why people like him, I've given him so many chances but always a letdown, but I recommend him to every other new player cause everyone swears by him

[pearl oyster]

@indigo jolt 18-20

[plush wren]

@jovial moat he's carrying me right now, I'm just stalling to get my tanks up and then I should be able to make progress.

[broken egret]

@jovial moat that's probably because of the setup you run, you want him 20-40 levels above your support units, all they have to do at that point is stall a little bit while he kills everyone and can like 3v1 the last 3

[tawny jewel]

@jovial moat bro tbh i would try
Athalia
Lyca
Tasi
Gorvo
Saveas
But thats just me

[jovial moat]

@plush wren what stage you on?

[plush wren]

6-28

[blazing raptor]

@broken egret why do i reset? level scaling?

[plush wren]

But like Dion said, my sav is 40 levels higher than others. He ends up getting 4 kills

[broken egret]

@blazing raptor since you only want to use exp on 5 Hero's, you can level other units with the crystal once you unlock it

[silent crane]

Advice for 11-36?

[broken egret]

@silent crane you would have to post the enemy setup and your units, maybe I or someone can help

[jovial moat]

@tawny jewel I tried it, swapped around all my armor and artifacts, didnt work out well. @plush wren I'm at a point where my saveas can't possibly be that much higher than my other heroes since his level cap

[indigo jolt]

@pearl oyster What i used.

[silent crane]

Okay thanks I thought I attached them

[jovial moat]

@silent crane I'm stuck there too

[silent crane]

@jovial moat so hard lol

[bright geyser]

I made decent progress with no issues again went about 20 missions but this team destroys me :/ any suggestions? Silv always targets Nemora

[inner sparrow]

What should I do??

[jovial moat]

@silent crane I love lyca by the way, I recommend trying her out, she always does the mist damage for my team

[indigo jolt]

@bright geyser Change gear so tasi ahs lowest defence. Does tasi banish fareal?

[acoustic hawk]

I'm using Silvina Rare+ but I just got an Elite Kelthur, should I switch her out?

[broken egret]

Ye I remember, it's a bad stage to beat. @silent crane , you can set Sav to bottom, when he crits on his second attack he cancels the axe throw from khasos which was the biggest problem for me

[bright geyser]

@indigo jolt Yes

[pale kettle]

Do I have any chance?? Or just need better heroes?

[tawny jewel]

@bright geyser your maulers are so good lol

[mild wing]

@inner sparrow I dont really see anything wrong with your comp

[indigo jolt]

@bright geyser Drop Tasi for brutus, put nemora opposite ferael. And arden behind brutus. Change gear so that silv jumps arden. Nemora has to chamr fareal.

[broken egret]

@inner sparrow have you tried swapping in eironn, you might be able to do something with him since his start cc is decent

[bleak snow]

I have ulmus brutus and hendrik how should I use them as tanks. Which combinations are good

[silent crane]

@broken egret okay will give a shot thanks, those are the 5 youd use though?

[tawny jewel]

@bright geyser do u have nara?

[broken egret]

@silent crane like someone mentioned I might give lyca a try instead of maybe nem, other than that ye pretty much since you don't have a high arden yet

[bright geyser]

@indigo jolt I'll try a few and let you know thanks

@tawny jewel Yes just E

[tawny jewel]

@bright geyser oh. Then idk. She seems to work well against silvina

Help me plz. At best it will come down to a 1v1 shem vs vedan

[inner sparrow]

@broken egret do you think using nemora would help

[broken egret]

@inner sparrow instead of who? And probably not, I do not use nem much myself, only in things like lab and pot

And as a good counter to something like arden since you can make him root his own team if your nem can charm before arden roots

[sly shadow]

Ree

[edgy zephyr]

Is it a good idea to sacrifice Estrilda to make Belinda Mythic?

[silent crane]

Let’s gooo I beat It

[broken egret]

@edgy zephyr nah I wouldn't