#lineup-help
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Does anyone know how I can beat this level??
@pale kettle try
Shem
Nara
Nem
Serius
Lyca
@south herald omg thank you so much!! It worked on the second try ๐ญ youโre the best
@plucky flint
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@south herald though if I may ask..how did you know they formation would work? Iโve tried multiple formations but none of them worked, so how did you know that specific formation would work๐ฎ
@pale kettle I kinda just see how overlevel ur stuff r so i put the one with no faction disadvantage in and see if it would work xd
@south herald oh I see...Are you talking about this chart?
Gimme a line up I could use
Once again, any suggestions
A little stuck
@steep cape i think front line and athalia is solid. Maybe just try combos for other 2
@sly shadow what tanks are you working on? I cant see a solid frontline
Haven't gotten a good tank but my frontline is generally sav/silv with ulmus
@sly shadow hogan is good starter tank
@steep cape ooph. Thatโs just 18-40 all over again. Which is what Iโm stuck on.
@small acorn golus is good too
I foddered him
@sly shadowthats ok he is fodder
So whatd you recommend for comp?
@indigo jolt thanks. I think I have to to wait for my levels to catch up though. My shem gets melted.
suggestions? i would appreciate some help ๐
What the fuck which chapter u on?
12-32, vshhehsshs sorry forgot to mention that
Lol niru is fuckin huge problem
@wicked pelican reset saveas and Belinda to 140, level your Shem to 161 and use her instead
This got lost sry for repost but any comp ideas?
@indigo jolt lol nvm. I got it!
will that help much though
she's dying quickly because of silvina @clear saddle ๐ค
@wicked pelican once you do that put Arden in resonating crystal and use Brutus Shem lyca tasi Arden
161 shem is op from what I've heard
will try this, thank you ๐
@wicked pelican you can lower your tasis defence so the silvina jumps to her, then sheโll jump away. Put her behind Brutus so he can tank
I'm so happy to finally have done 9 28
@sly shadow try
Arden
Ulums/warek
Silvina
Savaea
Ira
Lacking a tank buddy. Can consider build a rare hero as tank. Ogi Hogan golus are decent depending who you prefer with faction compo.
@clear saddle thanks buddy. Morning
U sure?
Been reading the FAQ on reddit, reddit wiki, guide/tier spreadsheets, etc, and I've no idea what the best team I can make atm is. Some sources contract eachother, or certain heroes rely on others, etc. Anyone able to help fill the gaps?
@sly shadow have to try buddy. We can't be sure.
@sly shadow anyway.. do focus fire on Vedan. Must kill him before he ulti.
Anyway what about niru doesn't he become a problem?
@sand verge too early for you. Just play and use whoever you like. Just make sure seek advise when ascend hero above L+. You will pull a lot of heroes in early game.
You can read my tips below hopefully it helps u.
Early game tips:
Easier game advancement is focusing on Carry hero like Savaes to L+ 160, Build Shemira to replace him when she is M 161. Build Arden to L+ 141 too and can be use till around chap 22.
Overlevel carry hero at least 20 to 40 level from the rest, then level tank, supports last.
Spend diamonds on summons and 5 elite shards (90 diamonds for 40% discount)
Lab heroes focus Shemira and Nemora. 1st month of play should be able to buy 2 heroes. You can get nemora and Shemira each on 1st month. Then buy Shemira all the way till she L+, then buy nemora till she L+, then buy Shemira again till she Ascend, then nemora.
Try to only enhance Mythic gear.
Try to buy daily dust from store.
Try not to fodder Ascended tier hero.
Generally try to ascend straight to E+/L+. Focus on one hero per faction (except wilders) to ascend cos you will need lots of fodders from L+ to M/M+, etc. Do plan before ascend.
Meta team: Wilders CC back, Shemira Brutus
Do read up to Glourious Tier list #affkguides
@sand verge
Ty, whatever your name is supposed to be lol
I need help passing this
@fierce kayak nice paragraph ๐ is it copy and pasted? @pale kettle replace Belinda with lyca maybe?
Woaahh you can do that????
Haha yup.
Issabella takes every one out @fierce kayak
Jealoussss
@sly shadow ic.. dodges ira too? Then maybe you focus fire on niru then.
Ir ends up dying or getting charmed
Would appreciate some help if possible
@pale kettle try to build Savaes as Carry I instead. Try
Nara/Arden
Grezhul
Arden/ nara
Brutus
Shemira
Hello people... I am relatively new to the game, and therefore have little idea of which units I should use on my team. These are the ones that I have, as well as the formation I am currently using. Any advice?
@fierce kayak Thanks i got it with lyca
Help! I got a hero chest and I don't know which one to pick 
Team for wrizz?
This is my current team. Any input appreciated!
@woven monolith your tank seems good but may be change backline to Savaes Rosalina and tasi. Who have the most power rating btw?
@plucky summit Lyca is always a safe choice since her ascension donโt need to be high cuz she only need to survive to give the initial haste
@mellow hound try Lucius Savaes Belinda Estrilda Rosalina? Make sure you put rosalina closest to someone she follows
@pale kettle gratz buddy. Ya.. we can only suggest but we dunno the actual fighting situation. Good job to make adjustment and won the stage!
@pseudo bear awesome thank you :)
@pseudo bear Thank you for the help! My 5 highest power rating are: Belinda, Saveas, Lucius, Ira, Hogan.
@woven monolith Then I suggest you try Hogan Lucius, Belinda Savaes Tasi
@pseudo bear solid thank you
@pseudo bear Thank you, once again! Very much appreciated! ๐ ๐
Didnt actually die, just timed out with Saveas which is improvement
@sleek portal do you have tasi by any chance?
Stuck on 14-16. I just can't kill any of the Vedans, it's always Shem vs 2 Vedans in the end and I lose. Any ideas?
@glossy delta may be you could hire a brutus and put him in Lucius Position? If you have arden you try him as well. Make sure your backline are from top to bottom ; Tasi Lyca Arden. Also make sure silvina jumps on Tasi
@small acorn okay thanks and @plucky flint yeah itโs a sob
@pseudo bear My tasi needs to be completely naked if silvina is gonna jump tasi. But it did work pretty well. I'll apply for a brutus and check back in the morning. thanks for the tips!
Suggestions on which to pick
@wide laurel Lyca is always a safe choice since you only need her for her initial haste so she doesnโt need to be at high ascension plus she combo really well with Tasi,Nemora and arden
Worth making hendrix mythic by sacrificing Belinda?
Hey yโall, I currently have Lucius, Rosaline, Rowan, and Thane for my lightbearer faction team, who should I bring up as my 5th?
Belinda @obsidian bridge
@wide laurel No, foddered ascended tier hero is not a great idea cuz you will need a variety of unit for faction towers
For the wish list if I want Nara, Baden, Grezhul, and ulmus and I put them down and nobody else is that giving me a higher chance of getting them and is it worth it? Or should I keep everything full?
any tips for 16-40? crazy wilders GG
Who should I use to ascend my shemira to mythic? Vedan or silvina? I'm on chapter 15
@elfin scroll anyone is fine. Buy vedan for me
@elfin scroll #classic-questions If you don't use either of them, eat them both to make Shemira M+
@elfin scroll why not both ๐
@pale rover TRUE I just ate em both to make her M+ xD
I don't have any M+ just a mythic estrilda I forgot I could make her M+ with 2 L+
@elfin scroll Good luck, that's a big boost so it'll take you farther. If not asking specifically for a lineup it's best to ask in #classic-questions.โบ๏ธ
@bitter dagger
Try
nem
Lyca
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca dodge ogi while Brut shield Kaz poison and keeping Shem safe is better
@thorn tapir that stage is hard actually. Someone will might die for sure why try put 3 tanks there and Shem + sav. Tanks that u dun really need or not in your main. Saving your carry there is a good strat.
Any idea lmao?
@stable mirage what's that stage
21-54
@stable mirage try taking out brut there. And lyca dodge every hit
Killing estrilda as soon as possible is the best wae
@dark tundra which relics good to get for peak of times and I am long stuck 19-36 ty
@ember bane I think u r still fine without those 2 relics. I dun have those 2 relics and yet I am at 21. And for that chapter. Using athalia on vurk will might help you.
@dark tundra i mean from this relics which good to choose? So i will retry again
@dark tundra i didnt get how but that lineup with some relic changes and got it. Lmao. Thanks
@ember bane is it for Savage wastes? Try to aim for Kaz relics and poison she can help you to kill athalia with her poison also on solar plane killing bosses with kaz. Is good strat.
@stable mirage
@ember bane try also save easy campaign for 2 trials on boss
Hey, is my line up good? What should i change?
@unkempt eagle make 161 Shem .it's either u wait or reset some people to 140 and get the dust and use it for Shem. 161 Shem do wonders. But dun reset Arden 141 Arden is a must
@dark tundra for Shemira what kind of line up should I use??
@unkempt eagle but u could try this first
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
Or this.
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Shem
Arden
@dark tundra Thanks for the advices. Is it a big problem that my Lyca and Tasi only Elite?
Nope. My Arden is elite and tasi is e+ and I am at chap21 @unkempt eagle. Just gear them up
Thanks, I'll try it :)
If you have 4 Brutus would it be worthwhile to invest in it or would it be better to rely on something you can ascend like khasos or Estrilda?
@dark tundra don't have Kaz L+ I go with Brutus shemira Lyca Arden tasi nemora
@upbeat moat what stage
14-28
Try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi @upbeat moat
Worked 1st try, thanks! @dark tundra

@dark tundra Line up working
. Already at stage 12-32
@upper path I have an ascended khasos. So I choose khasos to white first my Brut is only mythic
Any tips for this?
@dark tundra yeah but what if you haven't invested in khasos or Brutus
@upper path my estrilda is m+ and need 3 copies for her to ascended. I just got lucky on khasos tbh. But my heart is for estrilda. ascend hero who u think can be possible to become white. No need to be your main
@upper path but try to make 5 m+ first cos we have so called "dust wall"
@dark tundra Shemira dies quickly by Grezhul and Silvana
Do i need to change Artifacts
Use grace on lyca
@ember bane
any ideas? i cant find a good combo, my arden is always too slow to root, ogi stuns people at the bottom, etc etc
Any ideas?
gotta burst down vedan before he goes bat mode
@odd python
Try
Tasi
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Shem
@molten lance
Try
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Sav
Tasi
@dark tundra Dont got a tasi
ira kills shem too fast
Or full mualers with Arden
Safiya
Brut
Arden
Golus
Saveas.
This way it will add more power on your sav.
Maybe your Shem can kill Kaz cos of overlevel and signature
try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi @odd python
ah, that worked well, thanks for that

Ice is pro
@fierce kayak
@pale kettle
Saveas Shem nemora plus 2 tanks
Nemora for sustain heal while sav and Shem is a carry. Do note for fodder team if u know someone will die on that stage save main people and use your carry with fodder unit.
honestly as long as you have shem and good relics you can make it through
fire and icebringer, sun and moonstone, i prefer to stack int hero and backline dmg/crit relics after that
^
My team there is actually 4 graveborn + nemora. Faction bonus for Shem for full potential and sustain heal for everystage.
just reset the early fights till you get one set of the fire/icebringers or the stones and youre good. keeping tanks and a healer is an added bonus, will probs help with the last big fights (gorvo and ezizh)
dont give up, my alt with a lv120 shem pulled through using a statue of retribution and sacking lv1s on every fight LOL
just try with what you have you might make something work
Just keep Shem alive @pale kettle
Any advice for this level?
reset sav and level shem?
what ice said above, sav shem nem 2 tanks
you can swap out stuff based on what factional relics you pick up
@zinc wren
Brut
Lvl1
Lvl1
Lvl1
Lvl1
Keeping enemies gathered on one side.
But I know someone here have another line up for that
Why lvl1s?
To die faster and focus on Brut only
@indigo jolt @dark tundra which relics related to ice/fire
@ember bane moonstone @ember bane
What lvl Brut should I need to beat mauler 60?
@dark tundra want to defeat this stage Graveborn tower
@zinc wren 200 but keep asking I think there is another line up for that
@ember bane u need to stunned Arden and safiya there . I think I use silvina there
borrow op warek
OMG finally ๐

grats
Hardest wall so far T-T ty ty UwU
@zinc wren I did borrowed 200 Brut there 
@dark tundra i like to Ascend 1 lightbear so I could reach lv180
Giving advices on line up is different now. U need to think on signature too.
@ember bane maybe Fawkes cos he's easy to obtain.
@silent wraith goodnight baby
@dark tundra no
any pointers?
@silent wraith Silvana jumps on Mirael and Athalia on Fawkes need advice plz ty
@silent wraith ok just need pass this now
lol u need to manual and time fawkes ult
any pointers? 17-40
Try tasi instead of lyca
Any tips for this one? 14-39
Take out nemora put tasi. Put always Arden at the back of Shem while tasi is always at back of brut @upbeat moat
yeah tasi instead of lyca worked but i had to give call to shem instead of blade
Hey hey all
Good job @odd python
Heyo froggy
thanks for the help ๐ chap 18 now
@odd python i use call a lot on shem, only use blade on her in laby
Thanks again, worked after a few tries
@dark tundra hey ice
yeah i used call a lot too but i put blade on for stages where grez gave all the gb enemies bonus magic resist, helped there and then i got lazy and didnt take it off lol
been stuck here for ages. any suggestions?
Best Soren team?
@hasty dawn Try Saveas instead of shemira! If ur nemora charms saveas i think u would do well so maybe replace lyca with a mage with lower def than nem
@slate mason
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius (His shield is needed for charm)
Rosaline
Nemora is also useful when she have overheal. This comp might not do much because most of them are Lb but u dont have much choice xd
omg it worked. but it ended up becoming a saveas 1v1 and timer just ran out slowly ๐ @south herald
Any suggestions for this stage?
@cinder blaze I dont think gb r a good idea against that enemy because gb cant do much to wilders.... so try some maulers maybe?
Have u tried 4 wilders with eirone + Shem @cinder blaze a
Im lost on how to improve this. Bout as good as ive gotten. Ive rngd to almost have it down once in like 30 tries. Esperia 60
@real valve Shem+
Brut front line and wilders at the back(tasi nemora lyca Arden)
@south herald even when i do a mauler focused team they still get melted pretty fast
@dark tundra thanks
Help please
Need some suggestions for this stage.
@teal glade try use Arden there. And front line Kaz and a tank. And if u have a eirone maybe he can help you to disturb the naras
@dark tundra nah dont have a eironn can try and rent one this week
@dark tundra ive tried tanking with kaz. Problem was the naras burst so hard. So i put nem there to eat a hit then kaz walk up and take aggro.
I had used arden in place of lyca too. Seemed i was dry on dmg. If i had an elron that'd be awesome i think. Tryna rent one atm
Any help would be appreciated~
@brittle summit
Wilders at back(tasi lyca Arden) and Shem and Brut/estrilda at front
Arden
Saveas
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Try to charm saveas and kill minions first using saveas @jade wedge
Stuck on 16-20, any help appreciated
@dark tundra tweaked it. Serius kaz front. Tasi nem arden back. Lost by a slicer on khasos at the end and kaz had died early but some cc rng i think this is the setup
@teal glade keep going wilders is so rng
Sent the stage so we could analyze it @formal bronze
Cheers icescream. Even got a bad arden root on nara #1 as they died. Still came out well. Got my 60 for mythics. Probably wont touch wilder tower for a while for some big upgrades
@teal glade good job
I meant to include it, but I forgot to screenshot, and had to wait for slow mode, but here is the stage+my heroes, please disregard current lineup, was experimenting
@formal bronze u need Arden to buy time for Shem so u need to use as bait nemora or tasi . Probably nemora take out the gears of nemora and put good gears on Arden
Try this
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Brut/lyca
Nemora
Lowering power of nemora and becomes a bait. Take out gears or lowering the buffs on library union it's up to u.
And just choose who u want to kill first niru or grez
Mauler esperia 50 has been a bit of an issue too. Probably bwcause of dawkes. Maybe i just need to try and rework stuff to force fawkes to pin someone else? Not many mauler options since all I've been getting is wareks and safiyas ans no fodders
Use vurk instead of skreg . And front vurk while backline golus. Golus will support vurk while vurk can be at the back when he ult.
Try
Golus
Vurk
Safiya
Brut
Saveas/khasos
@teal glade
@south herald Got my new record, still didn't hit next breakpoint, but thank you for the idea.
Help me out๐ข @dark tundra
This isnโt working, I kill Thane easy but then I never make progress on the Lucius clones. Advice?
@zinc wren @south herald u have still a line up for this right?
i havent beat that one
@craggy coral
Saveas
Brut
Arden
Ezizh
Safiya
Try this
U just need his buff the 30% def while u u using safiya for dmg reduction .maybe in that way u can beat it. overdef the enemies
Level up Lyca/Nemora/Tasi now or wait to make Shemira 240? Got dust atm
Why not 240 shem @burnt knot
@dark tundra gonna try that
Oops my safiya is only lvl 1 have to put her in resonating crystal meaning i have to wait for 24hrs๐ข any other way๐ค
@craggy coral saveas 160 too. But try different comps with ezizh Brut saveas Arden. Maybe nimisu just for the faction bonus or athalia
Any tips last stage before my relic
Hogan will be squishy there cos of ascension issue. Hogan is decent on 9 and under only imo @craggy coral
@jade abyss shoot it with cannon.
Yeah
Any advice for 20-32?
Rofl i feel dumb ty
Greetings, I've been stuck almost a week on this, was also wondering if people could help me sort out my pvp teams since everyone is killing me rn x.x
Sorry for the failed screenshot :v
@zinc wren use Arden there to hold enemies that will be easy to your Shem cos of full lb.
Arden/lyca
Shem
Arden/lyca
Brut
Tasi
any help with 10-36?
@rough lotus shem. Use Shem as a carry dun put her on crystal. Make her to 180 . instead of nimisu. Then try
Arden/nemora
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi
Or use your main people but with shem
Thanks @dark tundra ill try that ASAP
@humble zenith build saveas till leg+ if u can but for now try this
Arden
Shem
Safiya
Brut
Saveas
@humble zenith
Someone has an tip for me?
@dark tundra i just collect food for sav leg+
@honest storm consider putting rosalina in resonating crystal and replace shem with her
Baegel โค๏ธ
Hey Baby
Nah I will just tag him for u mister @honest storm . @fierce kayak
Lol baegel
Will post on question. Then pinned up on question channel. Thanks @dark tundra
@honest storm
Who should I be using against Wrizz? Hereโs my current lineup, averaging just shy of 20m
Do u have Rosa ? @feral coral use her on wrizz.
Estrilda
Lucius
Raine
Shem
Rosa
@pale kettle wilders at the back. Brut and Shem at front
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Have already tried it, not working
Then swap places.
Arden/lyca/shem
Shem/lyca
Lyca/arden
Brut
Tasi
Anything with lyca doesn't work because vedan gets to ult and kills everything, has to be mehira or athalia to prevent him in time
U need Arden to hold him. So try mid arden
Who can help with team-comparsion?
Im stuck with this team :(
@tidal maple ok so first of all, dont ascend heroes to L unless you can ascend them directly to L+ or else you risk wasting fodder
Tried that the longest
Arden/shem
Shem/athalia
Lyca/mehira
Brutus/Lucius
Tasi
And nothing, can kill one at best
Any thoughts on how I could do this?
@clear saddle Tues u r pink. Whale
T'was a gift
^ 
^
bruh moment
Floor 40 is impossible how can i finish it
^
Just verifying @dark tundra โ Rosaline?
Any advice on mine though, been playing a little over 12 h
what is this vicious cycle
@clear saddle Im trying to use only useless heroes for ascending. But its so slow way to play))
Yeah but if you didnt ascend your nara and whoever, you could probably have mythic shem by now, shes your main priority
@pale kettle Drop serius for kaz/eironn and have nem be your 2nd tank with grace/chalice. Focus down one lucius at a time.
Ok, I see.
@indigo jolt okay thanks
9-40 how do I beat it
you tried taking out nemora for lyca? or is the nemora essential to your success? xd
That combo was great help, thank you @dark tundra
@unreal inlet
@ember bane Icebringer & Firebringer
I feel like lucius dies too quickly without nemora but let. Me try
Hey any advice?
@robust magnet what chapter is that? also have you tried using arden to root? or is that not gonna work
Best team that I can build?
@dark tundra best helper
@obtuse void take out lucius and put shemira in his place, add tasi to the backline
also, you wanna overlevel your carry, only spread the levels evenly when you can no longer level your main
@plush wren im offended
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@clear saddle I just got her to mythic like an hour ago
@clear saddle help then ๐
Yeah @obtuse void and im giving you advice for the future
Hello everyone. I've been stuck for the last 2 days at 6.2X. Can't figure how to progress, since I'm getting shred every time there is a brutus in the pve team. Any thoughts?
Sure. I'm trying what you said. Its working better but that Archer girl throws out a volley of arrows that destroys the entire backline when everything looks like it's going good... 
@plush wren why is your hogan in the backline. replace him with arden or something
Any advice on the line up?
@obtuse void do you have duras call on tasi? that'll help, you need your tasi and shem to ult at the same time
He just sits there and tanks after horse dies
Then have him tank instead of horse, horse doesnt tank that well for me anyway
@thick spindle you need to overlevel your main dps, whether thats belinda or saveas, dont spread the levels evenly until after the dps is maxed then the tank. swap out whoever deals less damage for tasi
Trying. She gets hit by a stray attack and jumps around and gets killed. Very RNG oof.
Went 0-3 with Hogan front, 0-2 with horse front
Okay thank you
well take out hogan for some more backline support then
@clear saddle would it be better to swap out roawn for tasi even though Rowan is yellow?
Tasi is your control, when she ults everyone falls asleep for 5 sec or so and you can just start whaling on them rowan is more energy support but thats only good with belinda
That makes sense. I felt that Rowan has helped keep the Frontline Alive alot longer then they normally would be. Definitely will try it your way though
Saveas doesnt need energy that much so if hes your main dps then you probably dont want to use rowan, also are your tanks dying fast? if so you could swap out one of them for brutus since he has immunity for a few seconds when hes about to die
Also, do you have an arden lying around anywhere?
It might just be the level disparity between my Frontline and what I'm fighting. I have a rare Arden but that is it.
His root is insane and is super good at level 141 when you can get him
Stuck on 9-20, any help?
have you tried Lucius in pos 1, Lyca in pos 2, Arden in pos 3, Nemora in pos 4 and Belinda in pos 5?
@clear saddle yes i have
No luck?
nup unfortunately
Hm well heres some advice anyway, you want to overlevel your carry as much as possible so for example, your belinda should be levelled to 160 before you level the rest up, that way she can carry
thanks for the advice!
np
Any tips?
What should I use for Wrizz and Soren?
I'm super stuck, any suggestions? Feels like I've tried everything..
@wary plinth reset your mirael and level up your saveas, overlevel him as much as possible, hes gonna be your main carry. after you cant level him anymore, level up your tank, this is gonna be lucius and maybe estrilda. afterwards level up the rest. Also rosaline isnt a frontline hero so move her around. For your setup you can run lucius estrilda frontline with fawkes saveas and nemora backline
Ait, I'll try that, tnx :)
@echo elbow Saveas Belinda nemora backline with lucius and maybe athalia front for both?
@lofty depot get an arden in your resonating crystal if you dont already, hes gonna helpl you a ton, after that, replace mehira with arden, then you want your tasi to have the lowest defense so silvina jumps to her, put tasi behind lucius so he tanks the silvina
@indigo jolt ok thanks and other than which types of relics
Iโm on 17-36 and getting stomped pretty hard. Suggestions?
@feral coral need lyca in there buddy take out tasi/nemora for her. also swap brutus and shems positions maybe?
Thanks @tuesday โ Khasos usually tops the damage so I put the big tank in
If you put lyca in you should be able to banish him before he can annihilate your backline
@clear saddle I apparently foddered my Arden accidentally.. However I made it by using Kaz instead of Lyca!
Any advice? Brutus/Rosaline combo had been carrying me but I'm kinda stuck now.
@lofty depot gratz, but you really should get an arden up and running, i still use him in chapter 20 ๐
@clear saddle Yeah I had him in E+ but I think I was tired and foddered him to Tasi haha, but I'll get another copy of him!
yup, gl further, ill probably be here if ya need
Thanks! My Mehira + Shem combo has been carrying me so hard. It's the best combo I've ever tried! It's OP as hell haha
Is that 14-16 lol? @pale kettle
14-37
Damn, then I know what awaits haha :(
This is the hardest so far
@pale kettle you can run brutus against the vedan with lyca behind him and hope she crits him out, and also need arden to root him
Brutus/rosaline isn't carrying me anymore... Help pls
I can kill him with that combo but it's not enough, he's the only one dying
Might need mythic weap on shemira or a few levels
Is it real to pass this level in the tower using one Brutus?
Anyone has a good setup for 18-40?
guys really need some brainstorming here as i pulled many elites what would u change on the resonating crystal to help progress? main team usually is lucius hogan/ulmus/grovo - lyca nemora/tasi saveas
Any lineup help appreciated! Stuck on 12-14 atm
Is this the best line-up that I can have to clear current content?
1/2: Hogan/Hendrik
3:Saveas
4:Rosaline
5:Shemira
@grizzled galleon yes it is see picture
@wicked lily use tasi instead of nemora, try get a slumber shem combo.
@wicked lily you can give this lineup a try
dont give them additional energy?
help plis cries
you might need to pull more faction scrolls on wilders buddy, maybe use arden instead of lucius/fawkes?
any help i canโt pass this one?,i end up with 2 enemies
20-12 hard stuck. Was suggested putting Nemura Tasi and Lyca in the rear but am still constantly getting wrecked. Should I afk or can anyone give me a diff suggestion with what artifact you would put on who in the team. Thanks
hold on a sec @hazy cloak i think i got a screenshot
hm i think i used brutus shem + wilder trio backline. Need nemora middle to charm the enemy ferael
Any tips?
@onyx blaze use arden instead of that mercenary, lower your tasi defense so silvina jumps to her
@onyx blaze you can probably run Shem pos 1 brutus pos 2 lyca pos 3 arden middle and tasi behind brutus
I have arden in epic Only
Just make sure your tasi has less defense than arden
@clear saddle every time I try a wilder group on the back line I get wiped faster than anything else.
@hazy cloak sorry buddy, i forgot to take screenshot of that level
@clear saddle thank u dude!
No problem. Itโs just my biggest issue is Iโm getting flattened by a bullshit ass ascended twat waffle that is supposed to be only L+ for the players ๐ก๐คฌ
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/609214426175897608/image0.jpg friend of mine used this lineup @hazy cloak , see if it works
Can I get some help on figuring out how I should be lining my heroes up and who I should be focusing? I'm on stage 7-28 currently
I've been using the lineup above to clear 6-28 til now
If i really canโt beat it i can almost get that mythic+
Lol @clear saddle Iโve got imakemistakes on my friends list in game lol
@upper spoke try Shem and Brutus switch. Nemora charm can be use against Ira too.
I assume your Arden still have chance to root them first?
@grizzled galleon its solo brutus, not brutus +4 lol. I think it was blade i needed. Research online. You need to take off auto and ww at the right time so you get as many aa in.
@grizzled galleon it will send you insane, took me 3 days and i was going crazy by the end. Running the same strategy over and over
ive tried it but ira kills shem so does kaz but ira kills her faster ira also makes my shem bleeds and hogan finishes her off whereas if my nem charms kaz shem can ult but dies soon after
this is the closest ive gotten
if i dont have that artifact on shem she would die to kaz
Stuck on 15-12. Any tips?
@upper spoke ur arden should be opposite to the enemyโs
@bitter shadow run
Saveas
Hendrik
Mirael
Hogan
Ira
@upbeat moat I suggest u chill out and level shem more for now. Theres no need to rush the stage unless ur very close to unlocking something with it
Vedan can die with rng but it's not enough
Need help with 12-4, please
Try switching Arden and Nemora for Fawkes and Estrilda, then use Lucius/Hogan/Estrilda (would try others first tho, she's a but squishy) instead of Lyca @sly sparrow
I don't have any trouble with a specific level yet, way too early, but i was wondering what my most optimal lineup would be:
Well seeing what you have would help...
Anything else? Should i ascend him or level up?
Should i level up the lv1 purple Hogan or anything at all? I don't know how to approach the situation
@frosty magnet ehhh my lucius is only lvl 1... also why lb? i got plenty of other heroes too
Because faction bonus, and I know, put him in crystal. Mauler v wilder won't work out for you
ah
bombon reset ira/mirael and level up the purple Hogan
Res crystal is locked, still chapter 4-19
Reset any hero you're not using in rickety cart, you get access to something that allows you to level others easily later (resonating crystal)
@frosty magnet could i use belinda instead of estrilda?
Reset them and give Hogan the xp and money
But it's diamonds :(
Misspelt yeah sorry, meant Belinda. And it's not a lot
@frosty magnet do you think hendrik would be a better tank than lucius? or is lucius still better?
Aw, i wanted to spare diamonds, but i guess it's inevitable. Who would you recommend gets chopped? Or do i just wait for the res crystal and keep the diamonds?
I'd chop Mirael/Ira. And you get lots of diamonds don't worry. And I'm not sure Mehira, I'd guess Hendrik though from looking at def stats
i might try both and see
Hold on, mirael or ira?
pick one
Aight thanks for the help
Anchi try Tasi, Gorvo, Sav, Brutus, Khasos
dammit they both really dont do much...
it looks like they all dont do much :/ poor saveas cant carry alone its almost like my team doesnt last at all
Who does Fawkes coffin?
brutus
normally it ends that saveas is versus brutus, golus and isabella... which obviously he cant do cuz brutus spins and he is dead
@upbeat moat You could try
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Shem
Can't really help you then sorry
well thanks for trying
which are best for guild boss?
@opaque dust I guess you could try Position 1-5 ; Lucius Savaes Isabella Estrilda Belinda. Make sure Estrilda is middle back
thank you!
Try that @fair sky
Thoughts on floor 58 faction tower?
Or not possible with current heroes/levels
@pseudo bear can you help me with the 11-35 lineup?
@opaque dust Umm yeah sure! I am not that great with pve line up though but hit me!
@pseudo bear thank you soo much!
Where to use faction scrolls?
@opaque dust May be you could try position 1-5; hogan Lucius lyca Savaes Belinda? If it doesnโt work may be remove Belinda for tasi
@torpid stirrup I would recommend Wilder generally but how many lucius are you missing? Might be worth to try lb if you only missing one copy of him otherwise wilder is the way imo. Play the game how you like it!
@pseudo bear need 2 lucius for ascend
How the fuck do win
@torpid stirrup could you list the heores that you have most copies of and their quantity (E+ count as 2, L+ count as 4 )? Only those with 6-7 copies
@lean flower Borrow a warek instead of a brutus, it will have the 181 skill and will shred through the armour.
I've tried, it doesn't work
@lean flower Sphinx chick instead of vurk
Either thane melts or Lucius outlasts the time
Guys! Aeroโs #1 student is great at line up help so make sure if you have any questions. You can ask him!
Try those positions, you need sav to be on the warek shredded target.
I learned from the best
@indigo jolt sry for the late response, your team worked!! ๐ thank you! ๐
Could use a little help with the Kings Tower level 110 :) Thanks <3
Hey guys, trying to finish 17-24 and my boys just getting crushed. Any help here?
@obsidian bridge I finished 17-24 also today and I have far weaker heroes than you do
I used FL: brutus + shemira
BL: arden lyca tasi
I don't know in which order, but you should be able to clear it
I just finished chapter 17 and I only have a m+ shemira and a m+ brutus
@fair sky Iโll see what I can do ๐ I think my heroes are a little under geared beachside Iโve been concentrating on ascending them
@pseudo bear sadly it didn't work ๐ฆ but thank you anyways!
@south herald maybe you can help me with my 11-35 lineup?
@south herald Any idea for the level of 110 of Kings Tower?
@lusty meadow try using ur arden instead of isabella
@south herald didn't work ๐ฆ
It didn't work for me either :o
Didnt expect them to work perfectly @opaque dust ur enemies r over level 141 which is a skill upgrade so the gap is actually pretty big
@lusty meadow thats a hard floor in general I would wait until im overlevel to do it
Okay, thanks @south herald
ugh ok, thank you so much!
Defence for arena?
Any Advice how i can pass this?
@somber sapphire I think position 1-5; Lucius Butus Tasi Lyca Nem would be for later on when you have like one overleveled character. Now itโs prob Brutus Seirus Lucius Kaz and Nem
Tnx
Any advice? 15-8 my Shem dies before she can ult in front of either and I canโt even get a close win with friends mercs
@topaz eagle What artifact you have on shem?
Eye
Try with grace.
Any lineup tips from my heroes?
@topaz eagle Try this instead
Shem (could use sav instead if has decent gear)
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
What should i do?
I am currently using the first 6 heroes and I don't really know how to place them, and I don't know which heroes I should try to have in order to have a better team composition
Need help
@visual quiver you can beat it with your power. Try:
Nemora/ Rosaline
Hogan
Estrilda
Sav
Belinda
Or
Nemora/Rosaline
Hogan
Belinda
Estrilda
Sav
@visual quiver You can drop skreg. Can put tasi up.
@gray quarry you can refer to my early game tips in #classic-questions, pinned message and see if it helps. It says about building Savaes and Arden.
@fierce kayak thanks. it worked with nemora, hogan, estrilda, sav and belinda on second try
@visual quiver Great. Have fun.
thanks ๐
And what do you think about my actual lineup? With your reply I'll level up in priority Savaes and Arden
So my lineup is around lvl 100 - 110 right now. I can't finish laby anymore, enemy heroes are between lvl 120 and 140. Is that because I put 6 heroes in the resonating crystal? It seems to take the total amount of hero levels to calculate the laby difficulty. Would it be wise to delete everyone in the resonating crystal?
@gray quarry this game is all about positioning and changing our team heroes and line-up to beat different stage. That's that fun of it. And there are like factional advantage, etc.
But of cos we still focus on a few heroes like Savaes pre 160, Shemira post 161, etc..
Meanwhile you can use
Nemora
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Rosaline
When you pull more heroes.. You will makes changes again ^_^
Ok thanks, should I look at GloriouS's guide to see what hero I should level up when I got it?
@fierce kayak
@gray quarry you can. Glouries tier list is good but not updated. Afkarena.net has more info but not totally accurate if you ask me.
We mostly aim to build meta team especially for f2p.
Shem post 161 and Brutus to tank. If no Brutus use other tank.
Wilders CC back: tasi lyca Arden nemora. Pick 3 out of 4 depending on stage.
Can you explain what mean "Wilders CC"? ๐
By the way what should I do about Lyca and Vedan? I've already xp them
@gray quarry It means wilders crowd control. Crowd control is like skill or abilities that prevent enemy from doing something like tasi sleep + banish, nemora charm and arden roots for example. By the word xp you mean you max level them for their current ascension? What are those ascension btw
I mean that I'm already leveling up them so it looks like I wasted some resources for nothing or should I level them up later when I need them?
you only level 5 heroes
Any advice?
@mellow hound faction boost especially since its only maruders
Halp :'(
@thorn tapir try your setup but lyca over nemora, Brutus over Lucius.
My brutus died so do i need to reset?
@thorn tapir died?
What about this one?
@thorn tapir another line up you can try
Sav
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Atahlia
Nvm i got it lol
@fierce kayak Why is Hogan good for my lineup? I'm just curious because I've never used him
@gray quarry
- rare tanks like ogi golus Hogan are decent early game
- they easier to farm to L+ too since they rare
- at L+, they can still be feed away.. so not a waste later
- for faction bonus
@fierce kayak voyage of wonders and my brutus is low ive only pulled 1 copy
@thorn tapir ic. Cos I just need his immue. Cos you other tanks also low level right?
@fierce kayak So I should level him up first before Lyca, Saevaes and Arden?
All my tanks low unfortunately
@gray quarry level carry to max first, then tank, lastly support
Gorvo E+ and can make him L tonight
Anything I can do to win? Mirael survives too long and her ult destroys my whole team
Any advice for Voyage?
@hybrid zinc your damage rating low you kinda close to theres
can't really do much about that, it's all I got :(
We both stuck though lol
What should i do??
Any tips?
@cloud wadi give this a try.
@fierce kayak awesome thanks!
Any TEAM comp recommendations or i can swap in and out from the units above or any change i just need advice on 3 team comps since both my offense and defense will be the samw
What should i do???
I would put estril instead of khasos
What about med?
And belinda up top behind brutus and take nemora off
Me*
Lucius shem front, belinda tasi savaes back
Did you put the better equips on them ?
yeah
Down shem level and belinda and make them all 121 and level them in same range so others could be more useful
What should i do ?
Hmu in dm
Help
Can someone guide me in which heroes should I focus, currently im stuck at 5-40 damn Brutus
I would use lucius lyca tasi arden eironn
Any advice for Mauler 60? This formation just isnโt working for me
@dull hull if you can summon a saveas, max him out, hes really good early to mid game
@zinc wren i think people run 1 brutus vs them all because then you give them all energy and thats not good
@dull hull 1 lucius 2 eironn 3 arden 4 tasi 5 lyca this is the formation
Hi any ideas for 16-32 ?
@clear saddle just started no luck yet =(
@plush jackal Ty, i'll try that
@versed canopy maybe swap shem and lucius position and put arden middle?
@clear saddle tried a few times no dice shemira dies when estridla charges 20 seconds in
@versed canopy need your arden to keep rooting, do you have call on tasi?
Yeah
well if that doesnt work, maybe lyca frontline, shemira behind her and arden middle?
Now arden dies instantly, shemira survives the charge but gets killed by kaz a few seconds later, don't know what to upgrade
hm, i didnt take any screenshots so thats the extent of my help i guess, but maybe more rng and you might get it
one can only hope, still thanks for the input
np goodluck
@clear saddle is that worth giving up 25% attack and hp from 5 faction buff?
@zinc wren
If you can get a 181 warek fairly easy clear, even with 160's due to armour shred.
@zinc wren honestly, the lucius' are gonna get a bunch of energy and shield so idk if its worth or not. im not there yet so try maybe?
@indigo jolt I have a 180 warek I could use
Needs 181.
Is there a way to win this fight? Its the last one in vow and I get deleted
Maybe estrilda charge instead of skreg? not sure
that's actually the wrong formation lmao. it's normally rosa instead of skreg. estrilda sadly has no equipment
hm
they are just way too tanky. my ultimates do basically no dmg. there is another fight I could do. I can post a pic
What relics ya got
Last pic is the other fight I could do
might have to reset tbh... fire/ice pair with sun/moon pair is really good
I can get 2 more to 61 on the crystal! Should I or can I work with this team?
are there different opponents if I start from 0?
opponents stay the same. Try again, get diff relics
then what do you mean with reset? what's wrong with my relics or rather what relics should I get instead?
Aim for fire&ice bringer, theyre no1 priority. then sun/moonstone. then spider thread gloves would be ideal
Possible/optimal lineups with this specifically for PVE? Currently I'm alternating between Lucius saveas carry as my main two, and I'm not sure what are good team comps with the rest from hogan, nenora, lyca, arden, golus, rosaline and numsi. I'm trying to play around with different ones with and without faction bonus. Just started playing so I'd like to see if there's anything I can optimize!
best lineup?
man you're lacking a lot of cc, depends for what tho
@clear saddle Halppp
Didnt someone say i was an inferior helper? ๐ค XD send it pls
Check up! Lol
So uh I donโt know what Iโm doing, does anyone recommend anything?
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh i didnt seeeeeeeee. you're still stuck?
Yeah, this is 4 stages after the one from last night
take out the worse tank (estrilda or hogan) put in arden?
Just by pure stats?
by whoever survives longer frontline
Silvina just jumped to Arden and said nope
oh yeah silvina. if you lower rosalina's def, she might dodge it or bring it to your saveas who can burst her down
Voyage of wonders is killing me. Any suggestions before I restart for better artifacts. I have the sun and moonstone combo
What's best soren lineup?
Tried that and still failed it
npc Brutus tanks too hard compared to mine
I'm tempted to sac my E+ Safiya or E+ Golus, along with an Ankhira, to get my Brutus to leg+ (have another E+ of him already) but Golus is basically my only other tank and I read Safiya gets a lot better at higher levels. Is it worth it or should I continue to be patient and wait for another Ankhira fodder?
dont do your safiya, she might be useful l8r
Stuck on 11-8
Can you help me @clear saddle
Why do u have 6 heroes leveled ??
20-5 need advice plz ty @clear saddle
Iโm stuck on 11-8... need help
stuck on 6-4... What team should i use? Should I be saving diamonds for summoning right now or should i be using them on gear? if you need more info let me know!
@ivory dragon donโt ever buy gear with gems. Only 10x tavern pulls and elite hero shards
Re: your team, hogan Brutus tasi vedan rosaline is probably best for now. Try to build up a saveas and Arden. Sav can carry you till ch 13-14 and Arden will be useful for long after that
21-4 anyone? The positioning is kind of random here because I tried a bunch of stuff
15-40, Help please Ferael keeps blocking my ults
@languid sapphire need to put nem in for either tasi or Arden. Put her across ferael, she needs to charm him to fear his own team.
^ the key to unlocking basically any ferael stage
She keeps charming the frontline, is it just RNG at this point?
@ember bane i think lyca just gives more then arden here
Nemora have to charm ferael
@languid sapphire get nemora on tasis spot from screenshot, kick Arden and swap shemira with brutus
@plucky flint thanks for the advice, I should be getting a lab character tomorrow, should i be going with Nemora, or Shemira?
I think Iโll wait for levels, doesnโt seem to be working ๐. Thx though
@dark tundra gave it a whirl. Vurk gets rekt before hecan ult. E+ is so weak. Brutus being locked away again also means my backline just opens right up
Do I have some hope of making it ?
Any help?
Mauler 50. Currently the best I've done with many lineup swaps and changes. Varying between swapping saf and sav. Borrowed a warek though so new input?
Oh god nvm. All i did was put warek in and he steamrolled. This champ is fucked up good
@plucky flint Poison relic is generally only good for super high hp bosses, so depends on which PoT.
Should I sac leg+ Hogan to make Lucius Mythic+? I can replace Hogan with Brutus if I do
My heroes
I would save hogan until Lucius is around 160 @clear yoke
I can boost him to 160, I have 18M golf and hero exp
@plush jacinth Iโm either thinking that or level Shem up
Shemira is a really good hero so that wouldnโt be a bad idea. Just remember that at I think itโs stage 15 or 16 that you unlock faction towers@clear yoke
14-38, I just can't get my team to stay alive long enough for Shemira to do her thing. Any suggestions?
Shemira vs kaz, athalia on top backline, tasi for rosaline, brutus for shield dude
Lyca for nemora if you got her
Wow, I've been rotating people around for 3 days and you solved it that quick. Thank you!
Starting to think this isnโt doable...
@opal yoke glad could help^^
@pale kettle swap Arden with shemira
Silvina dives tasi ye?
No one gets ults off no matter the lineup, and yeah
Shemira shiled artifact
Tasi duras call
My team is weak to the point where Mirael can nearly 1 shot backlines
Arden is getting one shot right after his first roots
Yea can see that
Fight is over usually right when Shemira gets enough energy to ult
Even in bottom spot?
I mean there are times where Shemira gets ult off but it only ticks once
Best way to deal with 18-14 ? Hogan hits like a truck here.
1 belinda - 2 brutus -3 fawkes - 4 lyca - 5 arden i think u have a chance
Hmm thanks. Iโll try that.
any advice? Stuck on 9-20
1-Lucius 2-turtle guy 3-Belinda 4-Rowan 5- Lyca @oak lance
How would you fodder any of to increase Lucius or the other tank guy? (Thatโs if you would)
Can anyone give me tips on who should i ascend and team line up?
@pseudo vapor Reset Lucius and put him in Crystal. Make Hogan 101. You can easily make a 4/1 team.
Lucius, Hogan/Rosaline, Belinda, Estrilda, Saveas
@forest fox Rewrite your question please
@oak lance If you can make Lucius stronger than Belinda, you can cheese a lot of levels with Lucius/Rosaline combo
Thank you
Any advice for this?
I'd argue that sav is better until 160. also he's easier to upgrade to L/L+
alright cheers. do I buy nemora or sherima from the labryinth first?
Hi
Stuck on 11-36 any tips?
@dawn python nemora first
@orchid heath what u need help with?
Reset belinda make sure lucius is highest power. Then lucius rosaline saveas arden rowan/belinda
Core would be lucius rosaline saveas
Stuck on 8-40 help if you can
@tribal oasis thank you so much !!!
I just don't know what team to use so I'll try that ! :)
But... Lucius is capped at 100 so I'll try my best to make him strongest but no promises
@tribal oasis in that lineup is rosalinda on front line with Lucy?
@tribal oasis struggling to make Lucius's strongest due to saveas and Belinda being legendary
Ok guys I re did my lineup as:
Lucius
Rosalinda
saveas
Belinda
Arden
Who goes front, Lucius and Rosalinda? Who do I use my excess points on, Rosalinda ?
@tribal oasis
@burnt knot I beat that with top down khasos brutus top down warek numisu vurk, all the heroes was lvl 200 but khasos mercenary lvl 220
Going with top 5 characters, should I swap anyone out?
Swap mirael for Rosa, and make sure she follows Belinda
Esperia 55 struggles
Suggestuins?
Lineup for Wrizz and Soren pls . Now Iโm use :brutus,Lucius, Shemira,Belinda,Raine
Gotta throw thane in
@hollow mortar He's just elite , instead of Belinda ?
This stage is making me lose my fking mind
i can't rent out a mythic mercenary brutus but i wonder if i can get through with just legendary brutus?
@grizzled galleon Iโd keep Belinda. He might be a little light since heโs just elite. Iโd imagine him for Raine if he was tiered up tho
Full list if anyone needs it
@steel moat I know Iโm not as far as you, but I used this on the same formation but flip-flopped. Idk if your Brutus can do it though. Have you looked on YouTube?
Yeah that's one of the formations i've seen but there are several variation on it and i'm not sure which would be optimal to run multiple times 
Any codes for new members?
jenrmb3n3a
Thank you so much!
^5 scrolls, 1 Rare Hero, and 500 diamonds. But go to #classic-questions next time ๐
@pale kettle Kindly ask in #classic-questions next time, this is only for lineups. Thanks!
Anyone have ideas on esperia 55 i posted above? Hoping to knock out 60 on all in the next hr
stuck at 5-12 any tips?>
Bit of a dumb question, with my lineup should I bump my Belinda up to Legendary with Hogan? He is one of my main 5 but I have an elite Hogan as backup.
@shy tinsel get another legendary tier elite+ so you can send belinda directly to L+ !
@sly dirge Hi buddy. Do post your roster again but together with stage enemies position. Else people here can't advise you as we won't remember how the stages in game look like. ๐
@quasi radish Hi buddy, same but you need to post full roster too so that people here can give you better advise.
@fierce kayak this
@sly dirge it's very early to plan for anything for you. Just chill enjoy play and learn this game first. You be able to pull more heroes early game then can post again to discuss.
@fierce kayak i wanna beat dat lvl asap(
any tips :โ( iโve been stuck on 12-4 for so long
@sly dirge enemies position pls. Just like what people above post. Together with roster so that we don't have to scroll up and down๐
Any recommendations on how I can get past 7-40? Here is what I've got so far and what the lineup I've been using
@sly dirge I forgot if crystal is available for you but try to only level top 5 most ascended hero only. Rest of heroes place on crystal. So that all your resources focus no top 5, while rest of heroes level follows the lowest level of top 5 for free.
Reset morvus Arden golus Savaes for now. They are still blue so not useful atm.
Use
Shemira
Brutus
Estrilda
Hogan
Rosaline
Just focus level Shemira 20 or 40 levels ahead of the rest. Then level tank next Last supports. You can read up my early game tips in #classic-questions, pinned message if you keen.
Could anyone help? Should I make lucius legend or Belinda legend +? I don't currently use her, my setup being lucius, estrilda, tasi, nemora, lyca
But I'm wondering whether I should change anyone for her as I could make her leg +
My full roster, scroll up for my question please! Thanks :)
How to beat?
Any chance of me winning without mercenary?
I am so frustrated, what are characters that can be used as tanks? I am having a lot of trouble filling slots
@fierce kayak ty for your advice. And I don't really understand this crystal mechanics. I only have two slots for heroes and they are both used today. I have to wait 24 hours to use the new heroes there. For today I reset the levels to the heroes (for 20 crystals) about 15++ times, so two slots with a timer 24 hours dont look very useful
@winter pebble If you don't use Belinda, don't waste the fodder on her and wait to make Lucius L until you can make him L+. That's because you could get other Lightbearer units that would benefit more from becoming L+ and that are easier to obtain (Fawkes), while you might end up with more fodder again by the time you get enough Lucius to L+. Your current team is fine as long as Estrilda can hold her ground in the frontline.
At lower lvls like early game? @mystic hare
Lucius...
???
stuck on 14-38, any ideas ? (besides going broke to mass summon and maybe get a lucius) oh forgot mercenaries are a thing tho so maybe I should try that..
@pale kettle shemira 1 / brutus 2 /belinda 3 / lyca 4 / arden 5 , you gonna win
@drifting karma
Get Brutus to 200.
Lyca/Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira/Lyca
Tasi
@mystic hare #classic-questions
@pale rover ok thank you. I know estrilda isn't the best but she holds her own more or less in the front and I don't think I have a better option for her spot. Should I break the 2light/3wilder aura I have going to put someone stronger there?
@winter pebble You can use Hendrik in her stead if she dies too fast and see how that goes if you want to continue the 3-2 bonus.
@pale kettle yea i forget to tell you its kinda rng because your arden have to root the other arden first
Won't I lack damage then? That's my worry, since lyca is my only real damage other than estrilda. I don't really know whether I have better options with my roster that I'm just not seeing
Sorry to be a pain, and thanks for the help!
@jade wedge
Need more ascensions.
Nemora/Arden
Grezhul
Arden/Nemora
Kaz/Seirus
Shemira
@winter pebble I would say Brutus, but his ascension is a bit too low. That's about it for your roster. You can also try Lucius Hendrik front, Estrilda/Belinda Saveas Tasi/Arden back for the minimum bonus.
@pale rover What do you mean by more ascensions? I need more copies?
Hey could I get some help? Tasiโs passive targets Bel and Estrilda-Morvus stomp my โteamโ anyways
@Aerostati thank you very much. You seem to be answering everyone at the moment so I'll become one less person bothering you. Have a good night
@jade wedge Yes, more ascensions means you need more copies and fodder. Your enemies are all fully ascended, but you can still try, or borrow a high level Shemira to help you damage. I can't say for sure if she will survive if the others die too fast.
@winter pebble You're welcome!
aero the best 
@silent wraith Not CS but still CS

So Im basically stuck by luck. Lame
@pale rover Would you say Kaz is worth it? I can actually L+ her
@sacred zephyr That stage might need some Arden to hold down Belinda and Morvus for a bit.
Ok
Thanks for the help haha ik thereโs not much to work with rn
so i'm trying this setup/ still not work. btw rosaline should follow shemira or tank?
I'm looking for a way to add another healer to my campaign lineup without losing out on my heavy defense. I don't want to sacrifice attack power, either. I just need my team to gen health as fast or faster than they take hits.
@forest fox @light grotto #classic-questions
Iโm not sure which characters I should level up to make the best lineup #classic-questions #lineup-help
Is this a good enough team to deal more damage to Soren? Whatโs a good general team to max damage against Soren?
Try to find other good heroes from other factions (grezhul, baden, wilders, etc) @feral goblet thats a pretty solid guild boss team in a vacuum however soren is gb and faction dmg bonus could fuck u up
I'm stuck on 14-38, any ideas? I could try using mercenaries to make brutus stronger and lyca
@worthy grove send a screenshot of 8-28
@frank scarab I have a grezhul but no Baden unfortunately. I could try in the back Nemora, Lyca and Tasi and in the front Brutus and Saveas.
Would I get more utility out of leveling Kaz to L+ or should I just level Tasi to L+. I realize the obvious answer, but want to get an opinion or two.
NO NOT TASI
TASI IS TRASH AGAINST SOREN
Anything cc is hot fucking garbage bc it doesnt work
Im not sure if thisll work but
Lucius grezhul
Nemora lyca saveas
It doesnt have fac bonus unfort but idk what to do about that :^( i use shem ovwr sav these days cus shem is at 161+ now for me
Its not that the fairy is fucked hard its that that fairy is kinda useless bc its cc doesnt do anything to guild bosses anyway
Gotcha idk that fairy could get fucked hard by Soren
@worthy grove who does silvina target? also do nemora and tasi get their ults off?
TLDR cc is bad vs soren
Good stuff to look out for is damage + healing and sustain + things that support ur team to do more damage + in soren's case, guys who spawn dudes behind soren to distract him from the back (god it feels so good whwn he charms behind him)
@sand rune unless you're using kaz a lot and/or more than tasi I would wait to get tasi L+
Anyone?
@pale kettle yes they get their ultis off. And she's targeting the mage in the middle
Iโve recently ascended my Brutus to Mythic FINALLY. And need advice on leveling. How far should I level Brutus and then level the rest?
@worthy grove try switching shemira with silvina . also do you have Arden? if so swap silvina with Arden.
@feral goblet leave saveas at 160 and get Brutus to ur highest lvl. You might want to get a carry tho like a shemira
@pale kettle arden just on elite.
I wish I have enough dust for Hogan so at least everyone gets to 141 to unlock a new skill
Maybe I could bump up Brutus 10 levels
@worthy grove well just try switching shemira with silvina and see how it goes. if it doesn't work i'll see if i can come up with a different idea
Stuck on 5-36, any tips?
gg!
Who should i go with?
@simple remnant put athalia center and see if that helps. if not i have some other ideas
@ivory dragon just buy Shemira till shes Ascended
@ivory dragon what are your current heroes? id reccomend shemira but it could depend on your current lineup ig
Current heroes
@ivory dragon definitely get shemira, she gets op
And should i be using her now?
So I'm kinda stuck
i mean if your current lineup works you don't have to but if you do or you get stuck try putting shemira in. just always keep tasi or arden in your lineup tho for cc @ivory dragon
@pale kettle thanks for your help!
@pale kettle added you as a friend here ๐๐ผ
@pale kettle it worked thanks to the duo of nemora and rosaline
@nimble dune Have you try putting this position 1-5 ; Hendrik Lucius Rosalina Mehira Belinda?
@pseudo bear yes, still didnโt slow them down. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Any idea how I could improve this wrizz lineup? https://streamable.com/8abs5
@random verge Swap nem out for Raine or Belinda
@pseudo bear wouldn't everybody just die though?
Lucius should be enough to keep them alive? Also sometimes it doesnโt matter if they die if you get higher dmg. You gotta try experimenting to see which one work best
@tiny spoke try to not make that many heroes legendary, or else you will struggle with getting the fodder to make the legendaries you do have into mythic/mythic+ later
I'll try taking nem out, couldn't hurt. Thanks @pseudo bear
Whoโs the best character to stun or slow down the enemies?
Arden or tasi
Hi, I'm new to this server.
How good are Isabella and Niru? I'm planning to ascend either or both of them.
Hey @vernal fox welcome, itโs better to ask questions in #classic-questions since thereโs no slowmode. Tbh both arenโt very good. Isabella gets better but thatโs a long stretch still
I see and thanks! By long stretch, do you mean till very late game?
Yes around level 200 or so or maybe a little earliwr
Vurk gets a lot better late game as well,
Numisu... not so much
Okay and yeah dude throwing totems seem pretty useless to me xD
Heโs pretty situational but donโt throw away ascended tier heroes such as vurk, numisu etc theyโre rare to come by
Okay ๐
@quasi radish no shemira? Ok. You need nemora middle to charm ferael idk whoโs gonna be your dps tho
Nemora
--- Brutus
Tasi
--- Estrilda
Belinda
Stuck on 6-12 any good comp i can use?
@pale kettle show rest of your heroes?
@pale kettle alright, some advice for you here. seems you already have arden and saveas levelled up which is good they are really strong, but you want to overlevel your carry as much as possible so in this case, you want to pump your saveas' levels as much as you can. then level the tank and then spread the levels evenly. Next, dont ascend heroes to L unless they can go straight to L+ or else you might be wasting ascension materials
So get Sav to 120 then level tanks then all the rest?
Yes, if you can get saveas to L, then get him straight to 140, hes gonna be dishing the main DPS. afterwards, level your tanks and Arden after, he gets really good at 141, being able to root 3 people
18-36 any suggestions?
@clear saddle I cant get him to L without using my Brutus so thatโs a no go
@crystal osprey do you have an arden? if so, put your brutus against the ogi, your shem against the enemy brutus, replace nemora with arden
@pale kettle yeah, when you can, get him as high as you can
@lime hamlet imo, saveas is a lot more reliable of a carry at lower levels, but maybe you just need to afk a bit more? also, your shem has faction disadvantage so thats why she wont be so successful.
Nemora is quite good but shes quite underlevelled so maybe thats why. shes good as a support since she heals and charms an enemy
is 2 supports smart? or should i replace one of the supports?
Actually later on in the game i run 3 supports with 1 tank and 1 kind of tank. Shemira gets quite tanky later on despite being a dps
who r the 3 supports u run?
Tasi Lyca Arden. Lyca is kinda support/utility. Then i run brutus tank with shemira carry. Use lyca for her haste which is really useful
ah cool, i have one more question, should i continue to put levels on shemira, or try to get the other 4 to the same level as my shemira
Honestly, leveling your shemira isn't a bad idea, she can still carry
But saveas is a lot easier to obtain. Also some advice, get an arden running, then replace your nemora with him, his control is otherworldly. also keep buying shemiras from labyrinth, shes really good
ah man i bought nemora from the labyrinth
Its ok, getting 1 of each is a good start, focus on shem now
@lime hamlet you should be able to buy 2 heroes in your first month.
good start actually, keep going
Anyone have any idea on what I could do to pass 11-24? Only stage I've ever been hardstuck on and I've tried nearly everything I know. I see I should get an Arden up and running, but used him for a legendary Lyca quite regrettably
@sweet thunder can you show the enemy setup? also a rare arden can probably do the same job of rooting
@sweet thunder who deals more damage? your saveas or your shem? drop the one that deals the least damage, then swap in lyca and any arden you can find that you can put in your crystal
@clear saddle i wanna reach lv180 what's good to Ascend
But if you get crystal to 141, thats when arden gets his power spike and can root 3 heroes
@ember bane theres no wrong choice for that one, maybe nemora since its easier to get her ascended?
Help this stage sucks, Ira and Estrilda at the bottom murder me
Saveas easily does a ton of damage, but Shem pops off sometimes and can kill 4+ heroes depending.
@frosty kite arden sir. arden is gonna help you soo much. then swap out nemora for arden and put in a tank in place of fawkes
why is arden so much better than nemora?
Alright Iโll try that when I can get an Arden to a decent ascension/get an Arden in general
tried this lineup from an earlier suggestion but It didnt work out. Any ideas for changes or an entirely new formation? (14-38)
@lime hamlet he can root up to 3 people. when they are rooted they can do nothing for like 5 seconds
Hey you mind helping me with 8-40?. Who should I pop on the crystal and use?
@clear saddle and which ascend good in Lifhtbearer
@ember bane dang you really have no lightbearers at all huh? lol just depends who you can get more copies of tbh. your main comp is already solid so just focus on getting heroes that can reach ascended fast
@frosty kite proper levelling planning is for example Shemira 180, rest of heroes 140. Then level tank/arden next to 141.
Enough dust then level supports past 141. If not, just continue level tank next.
Try to post full roster together with stage next time. Either use lucius 2nd tank or You can try Lyca as as 2nd frontline. Backline tasi nemora Arden.
@clear saddle should i use Faction scroll for lightbear or still wilders ?
@ember bane wilderssssssssssss
As now I am on chapter 20 but difficult to pass every stage
@pale kettle try
Tasi
Shem
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
@ember bane same for me, it gets worse later, ulmus is ultimate raid boss
Ohk didn't knew that si need to get ulmus to mystic >>
@ember bane no as in you fight like 6 ulmus' throughout the chapter and hes fucking tanky and its rly hard
Ahh ok noted now stuck 20-8 @fierce kayak
@rigid marsh can you show the rest of your heroes too?
Dunno how many times i gotta say but ardennnnnnnnnnn
@ember bane you can ask Tuesday. I will parking at chap 19.
wait 9 ur name is in a weeb font now
@fierce kayak nooo parking is really expensive in chap 19
Oh I've never thought of using Arden. Barely even have him
@rigid marsh He is great at 141 for three roots
Bruh
Arden is some S tier shit
Go get one
Hi Guys, please post both Full roster and Stage enemy position together. So that others can advise more accurately. Thank you ๐
And together please so that they don't have to scroll up and down.
Also 9 your name look less cool now. The buffalo doesnโt help
what 9 said ๐
That message should be pinned
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can I get a lineup recommendation for a noob
@fierce kayak it worked thanks! as usual shemira was the only one left๐
@grand plume ok first off... you only need to level 5 main heroes with the highest ascension, the resonating crystal will do the rest
@frank scarab I dunno.. I found and find it cute ๐
@clear saddle which team good for high dps
Hey stuck on 8-40 any help please( I don't have Arden)
aight @clear saddle
@ember bane for wrizz i use shemira baden estrilda belinda and rosa, gets almost 40mil
@pale kettle Great. Ya.. it always happens ^_^
Do rmb 4 Wilders helps vs full wilder team or even GB team. Give it a try next time if others doesn't work.
whos baden?
graveborn dude that summons copies of himself
Any tips for beating The Solar Plane? What level should I be? I've been having a ton of trouble beating the 240s, much less the bosses. My levels are 220/200/180/180/180
@clear saddle not sure if i faced it before
you won't have faced him in campaign thats for sure. maybe in labyrinth
@hushed girder
that guy
oh the mummy
@clear saddle will E+ enough or I need fully Mystic for high dps
Any suggestions?
Mines E only. @ember bane tbh shemira is 99% of the damage. but for soren baden is reallly good
@plush wren what level is it?
6-16
I would suggest putting Thoran where Hogan is and brutus where Rosaline is.
Need advice plz ty 20-8
Yeah Hogan just insta dies
Did you try the different lineup? Did it help?
@ember bane your level 1 tasi wont help ๐
Stuck on 15-8, any suggestions on a better line up for this one?
@opal yoke ardennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
@clear saddle here 20-8
@ember bane i think if you run lyca into ogi with arden behind lyca you should be able to root first, then put nemora middle and shemira against niru
my arden is getting taken out super quick. What formation would give him a chance to do his thing?
middle back? put dura's eye on him
My thoughts) Boost Belinda up to 121, put Estrilda and Rayne into the resonating crystal for factional damage.
Iโm building my Lightbearer Faction Tower Team. Who should I ascend next?
@humble egret hogan probably then
@clear saddle Hogan is in crystal
nvm im blind whoever honestly lol doesnt make too much of a difference
Who should I ascend here? Or should I just wait to get another Mauler?
Saveas is pretty lovely L+
Sounds good. I haven't used him much in favor of Fawkes but I may sub him in for a little bit
I plan on taking our Saveas at some point in the near future. Who should I put in his place?
@tropic zealot Use either Lucius or Brutus, put Shemira in front, and put Arden and Lyca at the back. You can build Arden fairly easily, pull Wilders hopefully for Lyca.
Hmm so up front would be Shemira and Brutus? (I dislike lucius if I'm honest). Then I replace lucius & Saveas with arden and lyca?
I fed a legendary lyca into tasi. Also, is my Shemira strong enough to be up front?
@tropic zealot Lucius is actually better with Shemira than Brutus is, but the meta is Brutus with her so you can definitely do either. Don't feed ascended tier heroes, that L Lyca that you fed was super crucial to the trio Wilder backline. 161+ Shemira can frontline.
is duo hypo good? or should i just build trio wilders
@supple pulsar #classic-questions
First 5 are my line up
@pale kettle What are you asking?
19-6 ๐ข
What should i do?
@fierce kayak I tried that earlier but my shem keeps dying before ult. I maybe just need to afk more
@plucky flint Brutus needs to be at least 180.
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Shemira
@plucky flint erm.. You power should be fine. I mean still possible as some dudes still using M+ Shem at chap 20 (not sure how pump their gears are).
But of cos.. if it's like me low power.. I did try a lot of times to get the RNG right.
@plucky flint Athalia is also a wilder card that can help against Wilders team. Against Arden. Don't have to be high ascend.
hes more under powered than I was lol
wait actually we have same cp, I was looking at 9s SS
@silent wraith did you use the same lineup? How the hell did you keep shem alive till ult? I havenโt gotten her to ult once in this formation, never mind timing it with tasi
mine is near 200 ascended, so she cud tank a bit
how many shem dupes till u get yours ascended
@silent wraith I won ^_^. But now.. my fingers nearly break for very stage to get the perfect RNG nearly every stage.. due to low power..
@fierce kayak ch20 now?
@silent wraith haven't.. not the time yet. Will reach it before tarven event ends.
@silent wraith just 1 dupe needed. Iโm thinking of paying 1000 gems after next lab to reset my store
@silent wraith interesting name ๐
^ I dun know this guy
