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pale kettle
south herald
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@pale kettle try
Shem
Nara
Nem
Serius
Lyca

pale kettle
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@south herald omg thank you so much!! It worked on the second try ๐Ÿ˜ญ youโ€™re the best

indigo jolt
pseudo bear
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And here we see a wild teemo in their natural habitat. You can often spot a wild teemo since they are usually one of the few species who lives on lineup-help. Teemos usually feeds on the thank you and appreciation other give them for their help with strategy and team composition

pale kettle
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@south herald though if I may ask..how did you know they formation would work? Iโ€™ve tried multiple formations but none of them worked, so how did you know that specific formation would work๐Ÿ˜ฎ

south herald
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@pale kettle I kinda just see how overlevel ur stuff r so i put the one with no faction disadvantage in and see if it would work xd

pale kettle
south herald
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Ye! Its handy when ur overlevel haha

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That lvl 253 in the background tho o.o

radiant sonnet
steep cape
small acorn
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@steep cape i think front line and athalia is solid. Maybe just try combos for other 2

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@sly shadow what tanks are you working on? I cant see a solid frontline

sly shadow
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Haven't gotten a good tank but my frontline is generally sav/silv with ulmus

small acorn
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@sly shadow hogan is good starter tank

plucky flint
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@steep cape ooph. Thatโ€™s just 18-40 all over again. Which is what Iโ€™m stuck on.

small acorn
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@small acorn golus is good too

sly shadow
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I foddered him

small acorn
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@sly shadowthats ok he is fodder

sly shadow
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So whatd you recommend for comp?

plucky flint
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@indigo jolt thanks. I think I have to to wait for my levels to catch up though. My shem gets melted.

wicked pelican
sly shadow
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What the fuck which chapter u on?

wicked pelican
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12-32, vshhehsshs sorry forgot to mention that

sly shadow
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Lol niru is fuckin huge problem

clear saddle
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@wicked pelican reset saveas and Belinda to 140, level your Shem to 161 and use her instead

sly shadow
plucky flint
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@indigo jolt lol nvm. I got it!

wicked pelican
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will that help much though
she's dying quickly because of silvina @clear saddle ๐Ÿค”

clear saddle
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@wicked pelican once you do that put Arden in resonating crystal and use Brutus Shem lyca tasi Arden

sly shadow
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161 shem is op from what I've heard

wicked pelican
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will try this, thank you ๐Ÿ’•

clear saddle
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@wicked pelican you can lower your tasis defence so the silvina jumps to her, then sheโ€™ll jump away. Put her behind Brutus so he can tank

sly shadow
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I'm so happy to finally have done 9 28

fierce kayak
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@sly shadow try

Arden
Ulums/warek
Silvina
Savaea
Ira

Lacking a tank buddy. Can consider build a rare hero as tank. Ogi Hogan golus are decent depending who you prefer with faction compo.

@clear saddle thanks buddy. Morning

sly shadow
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U sure?

sand verge
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Been reading the FAQ on reddit, reddit wiki, guide/tier spreadsheets, etc, and I've no idea what the best team I can make atm is. Some sources contract eachother, or certain heroes rely on others, etc. Anyone able to help fill the gaps?

fierce kayak
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@sly shadow have to try buddy. We can't be sure.

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@sly shadow anyway.. do focus fire on Vedan. Must kill him before he ulti.

sly shadow
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Anyway what about niru doesn't he become a problem?

fierce kayak
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@sand verge too early for you. Just play and use whoever you like. Just make sure seek advise when ascend hero above L+. You will pull a lot of heroes in early game.

You can read my tips below hopefully it helps u.

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Early game tips:
Easier game advancement is focusing on Carry hero like Savaes to L+ 160, Build Shemira to replace him when she is M 161. Build Arden to L+ 141 too and can be use till around chap 22.

Overlevel carry hero at least 20 to 40 level from the rest, then level tank, supports last.

Spend diamonds on summons and 5 elite shards (90 diamonds for 40% discount)

Lab heroes focus Shemira and Nemora. 1st month of play should be able to buy 2 heroes. You can get nemora and Shemira each on 1st month. Then buy Shemira all the way till she L+, then buy nemora till she L+, then buy Shemira again till she Ascend, then nemora.

Try to only enhance Mythic gear.
Try to buy daily dust from store.
Try not to fodder Ascended tier hero.

Generally try to ascend straight to E+/L+. Focus on one hero per faction (except wilders) to ascend cos you will need lots of fodders from L+ to M/M+, etc. Do plan before ascend.

Meta team: Wilders CC back, Shemira Brutus
Do read up to Glourious Tier list #affkguides
@sand verge

sand verge
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Ty, whatever your name is supposed to be lol

pale kettle
clear saddle
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@fierce kayak nice paragraph ๐Ÿ˜‚ is it copy and pasted? @pale kettle replace Belinda with lyca maybe?

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Woaahh you can do that????

fierce kayak
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Haha yup.

pale kettle
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Issabella takes every one out @fierce kayak

clear saddle
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Jealoussss

sly shadow
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@fierce kayak if I do go vedan he doges my sav

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Dodges

fierce kayak
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@sly shadow ic.. dodges ira too? Then maybe you focus fire on niru then.

sly shadow
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Ir ends up dying or getting charmed

shut harness
fierce kayak
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@pale kettle try to build Savaes as Carry I instead. Try
Nara/Arden
Grezhul
Arden/ nara
Brutus
Shemira

faint quest
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Floor 60^

woven monolith
pale kettle
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@fierce kayak Thanks i got it with lyca

plucky summit
mellow hound
plucky summit
pseudo bear
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@woven monolith your tank seems good but may be change backline to Savaes Rosalina and tasi. Who have the most power rating btw?

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@plucky summit Lyca is always a safe choice since her ascension donโ€™t need to be high cuz she only need to survive to give the initial haste

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@mellow hound try Lucius Savaes Belinda Estrilda Rosalina? Make sure you put rosalina closest to someone she follows

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle gratz buddy. Ya.. we can only suggest but we dunno the actual fighting situation. Good job to make adjustment and won the stage!

plucky summit
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@pseudo bear awesome thank you :)

woven monolith
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@pseudo bear Thank you for the help! My 5 highest power rating are: Belinda, Saveas, Lucius, Ira, Hogan.

pseudo bear
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@woven monolith Then I suggest you try Hogan Lucius, Belinda Savaes Tasi

mellow hound
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@pseudo bear solid thank you

woven monolith
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@pseudo bear Thank you, once again! Very much appreciated! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜„

mellow hound
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Didnt actually die, just timed out with Saveas which is improvement

pseudo bear
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@plucky summit no prob!

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@woven monolith happy to help!

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@mellow hound Gratz!

sleek portal
pseudo bear
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@sleek portal do you have tasi by any chance?

glossy delta
pseudo bear
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@glossy delta may be you could hire a brutus and put him in Lucius Position? If you have arden you try him as well. Make sure your backline are from top to bottom ; Tasi Lyca Arden. Also make sure silvina jumps on Tasi

steep cape
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@small acorn okay thanks and @plucky flint yeah itโ€™s a sob

glossy delta
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@pseudo bear My tasi needs to be completely naked if silvina is gonna jump tasi. But it did work pretty well. I'll apply for a brutus and check back in the morning. thanks for the tips!

pseudo bear
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@wide laurel Lyca is always a safe choice since you only need her for her initial haste so she doesnโ€™t need to be at high ascension plus she combo really well with Tasi,Nemora and arden

wide laurel
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Worth making hendrix mythic by sacrificing Belinda?

obsidian bridge
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Hey yโ€™all, I currently have Lucius, Rosaline, Rowan, and Thane for my lightbearer faction team, who should I bring up as my 5th?

pale kettle
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Belinda @obsidian bridge

pseudo bear
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@wide laurel No, foddered ascended tier hero is not a great idea cuz you will need a variety of unit for faction towers

pale kettle
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For the wish list if I want Nara, Baden, Grezhul, and ulmus and I put them down and nobody else is that giving me a higher chance of getting them and is it worth it? Or should I keep everything full?

bitter dagger
elfin scroll
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Who should I use to ascend my shemira to mythic? Vedan or silvina? I'm on chapter 15

dark tundra
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@elfin scroll anyone is fine. Buy vedan for me

pale rover
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@elfin scroll #classic-questions If you don't use either of them, eat them both to make Shemira M+

clear saddle
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@elfin scroll why not both ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

elfin scroll
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@pale rover TRUE I just ate em both to make her M+ xD

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I don't have any M+ just a mythic estrilda I forgot I could make her M+ with 2 L+

pale rover
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@elfin scroll Good luck, that's a big boost so it'll take you farther. If not asking specifically for a lineup it's best to ask in #classic-questions.โ˜บ๏ธ

dark tundra
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@bitter dagger
Try
nem
Lyca
Shem
Brut
Arden

Lyca dodge ogi while Brut shield Kaz poison and keeping Shem safe is better

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@thorn tapir that stage is hard actually. Someone will might die for sure why try put 3 tanks there and Shem + sav. Tanks that u dun really need or not in your main. Saving your carry there is a good strat.

stable mirage
dark tundra
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@stable mirage what's that stage

stable mirage
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21-54

dark tundra
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Killing estrilda as soon as possible is the best wae

ember bane
dark tundra
ember bane
stable mirage
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@dark tundra i didnt get how but that lineup with some relic changes and got it. Lmao. Thanks

dark tundra
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@ember bane is it for Savage wastes? Try to aim for Kaz relics and poison she can help you to kill athalia with her poison also on solar plane killing bosses with kaz. Is good strat.

@stable miragebelindakiss

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@ember bane try also save easy campaign for 2 trials on boss

unkempt eagle
dark tundra
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@unkempt eagle make 161 Shem .it's either u wait or reset some people to 140 and get the dust and use it for Shem. 161 Shem do wonders. But dun reset Arden 141 Arden is a must

unkempt eagle
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@dark tundra for Shemira what kind of line up should I use??

dark tundra
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@unkempt eagle but u could try this first
Shem
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Tasi

Or this.
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Shem
Arden

unkempt eagle
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@dark tundra Thanks for the advices. Is it a big problem that my Lyca and Tasi only Elite?

dark tundra
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Nope. My Arden is elite and tasi is e+ and I am at chap21 @unkempt eagle. Just gear them up

unkempt eagle
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Thanks, I'll try it :)

upbeat moat
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Any advice? Tried a few different setups

upper path
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If you have 4 Brutus would it be worthwhile to invest in it or would it be better to rely on something you can ascend like khasos or Estrilda?

ember bane
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@dark tundra don't have Kaz L+ I go with Brutus shemira Lyca Arden tasi nemora

dark tundra
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@upbeat moat what stage

upbeat moat
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14-28

dark tundra
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Try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi @upbeat moat

upbeat moat
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Worked 1st try, thanks! @dark tundra

dark tundra
unkempt eagle
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@dark tundra Line up working shemira . Already at stage 12-32

dark tundra
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@upper path I have an ascended khasos. So I choose khasos to white first my Brut is only mythic

molten lance
upper path
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@dark tundra yeah but what if you haven't invested in khasos or Brutus

dark tundra
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@upper path my estrilda is m+ and need 3 copies for her to ascended. I just got lucky on khasos tbh. But my heart is for estrilda. ascend hero who u think can be possible to become white. No need to be your main

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@upper path but try to make 5 m+ first cos we have so called "dust wall"

ember bane
dark tundra
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Use grace on lyca

south herald
odd python
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any ideas? i cant find a good combo, my arden is always too slow to root, ogi stuns people at the bottom, etc etc

molten lance
honest plover
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gotta burst down vedan before he goes bat mode

dark tundra
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@odd python
Try
Tasi
Brut
Arden
Lyca
Shem

@molten lance
Try
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Sav
Tasi

molten lance
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@dark tundra Dont got a tasi

odd python
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ira kills shem too fast

dark tundra
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Or full mualers with Arden
Safiya
Brut
Arden
Golus
Saveas.
This way it will add more power on your sav.

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Maybe your Shem can kill Kaz cos of overlevel and signature
try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi @odd python

odd python
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ah, that worked well, thanks for that

dark tundra
fierce kayak
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Ice is pro

dark tundra
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@fierce kayaksmug_dolly

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@pale kettle
Saveas Shem nemora plus 2 tanks
Nemora for sustain heal while sav and Shem is a carry. Do note for fodder team if u know someone will die on that stage save main people and use your carry with fodder unit.

odd python
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honestly as long as you have shem and good relics you can make it through

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fire and icebringer, sun and moonstone, i prefer to stack int hero and backline dmg/crit relics after that

dark tundra
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^

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My team there is actually 4 graveborn + nemora. Faction bonus for Shem for full potential and sustain heal for everystage.

odd python
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just reset the early fights till you get one set of the fire/icebringers or the stones and youre good. keeping tanks and a healer is an added bonus, will probs help with the last big fights (gorvo and ezizh)

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dont give up, my alt with a lv120 shem pulled through using a statue of retribution and sacking lv1s on every fight LOL

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just try with what you have you might make something work

dark tundra
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Just keep Shem alive @pale kettle

zinc wren
odd python
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reset sav and level shem?

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what ice said above, sav shem nem 2 tanks

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you can swap out stuff based on what factional relics you pick up

dark tundra
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@zinc wren
Brut
Lvl1
Lvl1
Lvl1
Lvl1
Keeping enemies gathered on one side.

But I know someone here have another line up for that

zinc wren
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Why lvl1s?

dark tundra
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To die faster and focus on Brut only

ember bane
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@indigo jolt @dark tundra which relics related to ice/fire

dark tundra
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@ember bane moonstone @ember bane

zinc wren
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What lvl Brut should I need to beat mauler 60?

ember bane
dark tundra
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@zinc wren 200 but keep asking I think there is another line up for that

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@ember bane u need to stunned Arden and safiya there . I think I use silvina there

silent wraith
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borrow op warek

faint quest
silent wraith
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tasi grats

faint quest
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Hardest wall so far T-T ty ty UwU

dark tundra
ember bane
dark tundra
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Giving advices on line up is different now. U need to think on signature too.

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@ember bane maybe Fawkes cos he's easy to obtain.

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@silent wraith goodnight baby

silent wraith
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@dark tundra no

odd python
ember bane
silent wraith
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lol u need to manual and time fawkes ult

odd python
dark tundra
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Try tasi instead of lyca

upbeat moat
dark tundra
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Take out nemora put tasi. Put always Arden at the back of Shem while tasi is always at back of brut @upbeat moat

odd python
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yeah tasi instead of lyca worked but i had to give call to shem instead of blade

small acorn
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Hey hey all

dark tundra
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Good job @odd python
Heyo froggy

odd python
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thanks for the help ๐Ÿ˜ƒ chap 18 now

small acorn
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@odd python i use call a lot on shem, only use blade on her in laby

upbeat moat
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Thanks again, worked after a few tries

small acorn
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@dark tundra hey ice

odd python
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yeah i used call a lot too but i put blade on for stages where grez gave all the gb enemies bonus magic resist, helped there and then i got lazy and didnt take it off lol

hasty dawn
slate mason
south herald
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@hasty dawn Try Saveas instead of shemira! If ur nemora charms saveas i think u would do well so maybe replace lyca with a mage with lower def than nem

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@slate mason
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius (His shield is needed for charm)
Rosaline
Nemora is also useful when she have overheal. This comp might not do much because most of them are Lb but u dont have much choice xd

hasty dawn
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omg it worked. but it ended up becoming a saveas 1v1 and timer just ran out slowly ๐Ÿ˜‚ @south herald

cinder blaze
south herald
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@cinder blaze I dont think gb r a good idea against that enemy because gb cant do much to wilders.... so try some maulers maybe?

dark tundra
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Have u tried 4 wilders with eirone + Shem @cinder blaze a

real valve
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Or who should I focus on upgrading?

teal glade
dark tundra
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@real valve Shem+
Brut front line and wilders at the back(tasi nemora lyca Arden)

cinder blaze
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@south herald even when i do a mauler focused team they still get melted pretty fast

real valve
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@dark tundra thanks

honest storm
brittle summit
dark tundra
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@teal glade try use Arden there. And front line Kaz and a tank. And if u have a eirone maybe he can help you to disturb the naras

cinder blaze
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@dark tundra nah dont have a eironn can try and rent one this week

teal glade
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@dark tundra ive tried tanking with kaz. Problem was the naras burst so hard. So i put nem there to eat a hit then kaz walk up and take aggro.

I had used arden in place of lyca too. Seemed i was dry on dmg. If i had an elron that'd be awesome i think. Tryna rent one atm

jade wedge
dark tundra
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@brittle summit
Wilders at back(tasi lyca Arden) and Shem and Brut/estrilda at front

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Arden
Saveas
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Try to charm saveas and kill minions first using saveas @jade wedge

formal bronze
teal glade
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@dark tundra tweaked it. Serius kaz front. Tasi nem arden back. Lost by a slicer on khasos at the end and kaz had died early but some cc rng i think this is the setup

dark tundra
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@teal glade keep going wilders is so rng

Sent the stage so we could analyze it @formal bronze

teal glade
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Cheers icescream. Even got a bad arden root on nara #1 as they died. Still came out well. Got my 60 for mythics. Probably wont touch wilder tower for a while for some big upgrades

dark tundra
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@teal glade good jobsmug_dolly

formal bronze
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I meant to include it, but I forgot to screenshot, and had to wait for slow mode, but here is the stage+my heroes, please disregard current lineup, was experimenting

dark tundra
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@formal bronze u need Arden to buy time for Shem so u need to use as bait nemora or tasi . Probably nemora take out the gears of nemora and put good gears on Arden
Try this
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Brut/lyca
Nemora

Lowering power of nemora and becomes a bait. Take out gears or lowering the buffs on library union it's up to u.

And just choose who u want to kill first niru or grez

teal glade
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Mauler esperia 50 has been a bit of an issue too. Probably bwcause of dawkes. Maybe i just need to try and rework stuff to force fawkes to pin someone else? Not many mauler options since all I've been getting is wareks and safiyas ans no fodders

dark tundra
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Use vurk instead of skreg . And front vurk while backline golus. Golus will support vurk while vurk can be at the back when he ult.
Try
Golus
Vurk
Safiya
Brut
Saveas/khasos
@teal glade

slate mason
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@south herald Got my new record, still didn't hit next breakpoint, but thank you for the idea.

craggy coral
zinc wren
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This isnโ€™t working, I kill Thane easy but then I never make progress on the Lucius clones. Advice?

dark tundra
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@zinc wren @south herald u have still a line up for this right?

south herald
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i havent beat that one

dark tundra
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@craggy coral
Saveas
Brut
Arden
Ezizh
Safiya

Try this

craggy coral
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My ezizh is only E

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And safiya too

dark tundra
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U just need his buff the 30% def while u u using safiya for dmg reduction .maybe in that way u can beat it. overdef the enemies

burnt knot
dark tundra
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Why not 240 shem @burnt knot

craggy coral
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@dark tundra gonna try that

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Oops my safiya is only lvl 1 have to put her in resonating crystal meaning i have to wait for 24hrs๐Ÿ˜ข any other way๐Ÿค”

dark tundra
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@craggy coral saveas 160 too. But try different comps with ezizh Brut saveas Arden. Maybe nimisu just for the faction bonus or athalia

jade abyss
dark tundra
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Hogan will be squishy there cos of ascension issue. Hogan is decent on 9 and under only imo @craggy coral

@jade abyss shoot it with cannon.

craggy coral
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Yeah

zinc wren
jade abyss
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Rofl i feel dumb ty

rough lotus
dark tundra
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@zinc wren use Arden there to hold enemies that will be easy to your Shem cos of full lb.
Arden/lyca
Shem
Arden/lyca
Brut
Tasi

humble zenith
dark tundra
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@rough lotus shem. Use Shem as a carry dun put her on crystal. Make her to 180 . instead of nimisu. Then try
Arden/nemora
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi

Or use your main people but with shem

rough lotus
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Thanks @dark tundra ill try that ASAP

dark tundra
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@humble zenith build saveas till leg+ if u can but for now try this
Arden
Shem
Safiya
Brut
Saveas
@humble zenith

honest storm
humble zenith
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@dark tundra i just collect food for sav leg+

pseudo bear
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@honest storm consider putting rosalina in resonating crystal and replace shem with her

dark tundra
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Baegel โค๏ธ

pseudo bear
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Hey Baby

dark tundra
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Nah I will just tag him for u mister @honest storm . @fierce kayak

Lol baegel

fierce kayak
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Will post on question. Then pinned up on question channel. Thanks @dark tundra
@honest storm

feral coral
dark tundra
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Do u have Rosa ? @feral coral use her on wrizz.
Estrilda
Lucius
Raine
Shem
Rosa

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@pale kettle wilders at the back. Brut and Shem at front
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Shem
Arden

pale kettle
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Have already tried it, not working

dark tundra
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Then swap places.
Arden/lyca/shem
Shem/lyca
Lyca/arden
Brut
Tasi

pale kettle
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Anything with lyca doesn't work because vedan gets to ult and kills everything, has to be mehira or athalia to prevent him in time

dark tundra
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U need Arden to hold him. So try mid arden

tidal maple
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Who can help with team-comparsion?
Im stuck with this team :(

clear saddle
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@tidal maple ok so first of all, dont ascend heroes to L unless you can ascend them directly to L+ or else you risk wasting fodder

pale kettle
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Tried that the longest
Arden/shem
Shem/athalia
Lyca/mehira
Brutus/Lucius
Tasi
And nothing, can kill one at best

plush wren
dark tundra
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@clear saddle Tues u r pink. Whale

clear saddle
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T'was a gift

south herald
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Chatting in slowmode lmao

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Smh

dark tundra
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^ tasi

plush wren
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^

clear saddle
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bruh moment

pale kettle
clear saddle
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^

feral coral
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Just verifying @dark tundra โ€“ Rosaline?

plush wren
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Any advice on mine though, been playing a little over 12 h

south herald
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If u dont want to help then no blue for u @dark tundra

clear saddle
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what is this vicious cycle

tidal maple
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@clear saddle Im trying to use only useless heroes for ascending. But its so slow way to play))

clear saddle
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Yeah but if you didnt ascend your nara and whoever, you could probably have mythic shem by now, shes your main priority

indigo jolt
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@pale kettle Drop serius for kaz/eironn and have nem be your 2nd tank with grace/chalice. Focus down one lucius at a time.

tidal maple
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Ok, I see.

pale kettle
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@indigo jolt okay thanks

unreal inlet
clear saddle
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you tried taking out nemora for lyca? or is the nemora essential to your success? xd

feral coral
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That combo was great help, thank you @dark tundra

clear saddle
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@unreal inlet

indigo jolt
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@ember bane Icebringer & Firebringer

unreal inlet
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I feel like lucius dies too quickly without nemora but let. Me try

robust magnet
clear saddle
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@robust magnet what chapter is that? also have you tried using arden to root? or is that not gonna work

vestal island
plush wren
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@dark tundra best helper

clear saddle
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@obtuse void take out lucius and put shemira in his place, add tasi to the backline

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also, you wanna overlevel your carry, only spread the levels evenly when you can no longer level your main

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@plush wren im offended

plush wren
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๐Ÿค”

obtuse void
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@clear saddle I just got her to mythic like an hour ago

plush wren
clear saddle
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Yeah @obtuse void and im giving you advice for the future

dense niche
thick spindle
obtuse void
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Sure. I'm trying what you said. Its working better but that Archer girl throws out a volley of arrows that destroys the entire backline when everything looks like it's going good... ogifrown

clear saddle
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@plush wren why is your hogan in the backline. replace him with arden or something

thick spindle
clear saddle
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@obtuse void do you have duras call on tasi? that'll help, you need your tasi and shem to ult at the same time

plush wren
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He just sits there and tanks after horse dies

clear saddle
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Then have him tank instead of horse, horse doesnt tank that well for me anyway

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@thick spindle you need to overlevel your main dps, whether thats belinda or saveas, dont spread the levels evenly until after the dps is maxed then the tank. swap out whoever deals less damage for tasi

obtuse void
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Trying. She gets hit by a stray attack and jumps around and gets killed. Very RNG oof.

plush wren
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Went 0-3 with Hogan front, 0-2 with horse front

thick spindle
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Okay thank you

clear saddle
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well take out hogan for some more backline support then

thick spindle
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@clear saddle would it be better to swap out roawn for tasi even though Rowan is yellow?

clear saddle
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Tasi is your control, when she ults everyone falls asleep for 5 sec or so and you can just start whaling on them rowan is more energy support but thats only good with belinda

thick spindle
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That makes sense. I felt that Rowan has helped keep the Frontline Alive alot longer then they normally would be. Definitely will try it your way though

clear saddle
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Saveas doesnt need energy that much so if hes your main dps then you probably dont want to use rowan, also are your tanks dying fast? if so you could swap out one of them for brutus since he has immunity for a few seconds when hes about to die

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Also, do you have an arden lying around anywhere?

thick spindle
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It might just be the level disparity between my Frontline and what I'm fighting. I have a rare Arden but that is it.

clear saddle
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His root is insane and is super good at level 141 when you can get him

oak lance
clear saddle
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have you tried Lucius in pos 1, Lyca in pos 2, Arden in pos 3, Nemora in pos 4 and Belinda in pos 5?

oak lance
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@clear saddle yes i have

clear saddle
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No luck?

oak lance
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nup unfortunately

clear saddle
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Hm well heres some advice anyway, you want to overlevel your carry as much as possible so for example, your belinda should be levelled to 160 before you level the rest up, that way she can carry

oak lance
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thanks for the advice!

clear saddle
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np

echo elbow
lofty depot
clear saddle
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@wary plinth reset your mirael and level up your saveas, overlevel him as much as possible, hes gonna be your main carry. after you cant level him anymore, level up your tank, this is gonna be lucius and maybe estrilda. afterwards level up the rest. Also rosaline isnt a frontline hero so move her around. For your setup you can run lucius estrilda frontline with fawkes saveas and nemora backline

wary plinth
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Ait, I'll try that, tnx :)

clear saddle
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@echo elbow Saveas Belinda nemora backline with lucius and maybe athalia front for both?

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@lofty depot get an arden in your resonating crystal if you dont already, hes gonna helpl you a ton, after that, replace mehira with arden, then you want your tasi to have the lowest defense so silvina jumps to her, put tasi behind lucius so he tanks the silvina

ember bane
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@indigo jolt ok thanks and other than which types of relics

feral coral
clear saddle
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@feral coral need lyca in there buddy take out tasi/nemora for her. also swap brutus and shems positions maybe?

feral coral
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Thanks @tuesday โ€“ Khasos usually tops the damage so I put the big tank in

clear saddle
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If you put lyca in you should be able to banish him before he can annihilate your backline

lofty depot
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@clear saddle I apparently foddered my Arden accidentally.. However I made it by using Kaz instead of Lyca!

neat nest
clear saddle
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@lofty depot gratz, but you really should get an arden up and running, i still use him in chapter 20 ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

lofty depot
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@clear saddle Yeah I had him in E+ but I think I was tired and foddered him to Tasi haha, but I'll get another copy of him!

clear saddle
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yup, gl further, ill probably be here if ya need

lofty depot
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Thanks! My Mehira + Shem combo has been carrying me so hard. It's the best combo I've ever tried! It's OP as hell haha

lofty depot
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Is that 14-16 lol? @pale kettle

cloud nexusBOT
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pale kettle
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14-37

lofty depot
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Damn, then I know what awaits haha :(

pale kettle
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This is the hardest so far

clear saddle
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@pale kettle you can run brutus against the vedan with lyca behind him and hope she crits him out, and also need arden to root him

neat nest
pale kettle
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I can kill him with that combo but it's not enough, he's the only one dying

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Might need mythic weap on shemira or a few levels

grizzled galleon
wicked lily
clear saddle
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i think run 4 wilders

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Lyca against ogi, arden top nemora middle and tasi bottom

deep temple
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guys really need some brainstorming here as i pulled many elites what would u change on the resonating crystal to help progress? main team usually is lucius hogan/ulmus/grovo - lyca nemora/tasi saveas

past tapir
vestal island
small acorn
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@wicked lily use tasi instead of nemora, try get a slumber shem combo.

fierce kayak
grizzled galleon
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@small acorn whatโ€™s relic on Brutus ?

clear saddle
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dont give them additional energy?

lament birch
clear saddle
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you might need to pull more faction scrolls on wilders buddy, maybe use arden instead of lucius/fawkes?

pale kettle
hazy cloak
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20-12 hard stuck. Was suggested putting Nemura Tasi and Lyca in the rear but am still constantly getting wrecked. Should I afk or can anyone give me a diff suggestion with what artifact you would put on who in the team. Thanks

clear saddle
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hold on a sec @hazy cloak i think i got a screenshot

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hm i think i used brutus shem + wilder trio backline. Need nemora middle to charm the enemy ferael

onyx blaze
clear saddle
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@onyx blaze use arden instead of that mercenary, lower your tasi defense so silvina jumps to her

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@onyx blaze you can probably run Shem pos 1 brutus pos 2 lyca pos 3 arden middle and tasi behind brutus

onyx blaze
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I have arden in epic Only

clear saddle
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Just make sure your tasi has less defense than arden

hazy cloak
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@clear saddle every time I try a wilder group on the back line I get wiped faster than anything else.

clear saddle
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@hazy cloak sorry buddy, i forgot to take screenshot of that level

onyx blaze
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@clear saddle thank u dude!

hazy cloak
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No problem. Itโ€™s just my biggest issue is Iโ€™m getting flattened by a bullshit ass ascended twat waffle that is supposed to be only L+ for the players ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿคฌ

clear saddle
grim lion
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hey guys can someone help me with my lineup and this bossstage?

upper spoke
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18-14 hella stuck been trying for th past hr

inland oak
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I've been using the lineup above to clear 6-28 til now

wicked bobcat
hazy cloak
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Lol @clear saddle Iโ€™ve got imakemistakes on my friends list in game lol

fierce kayak
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@upper spoke try Shem and Brutus switch. Nemora charm can be use against Ira too.

I assume your Arden still have chance to root them first?

small acorn
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@grizzled galleon its solo brutus, not brutus +4 lol. I think it was blade i needed. Research online. You need to take off auto and ww at the right time so you get as many aa in.

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@grizzled galleon it will send you insane, took me 3 days and i was going crazy by the end. Running the same strategy over and over

upper spoke
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ive tried it but ira kills shem so does kaz but ira kills her faster ira also makes my shem bleeds and hogan finishes her off whereas if my nem charms kaz shem can ult but dies soon after

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if i dont have that artifact on shem she would die to kaz

bitter shadow
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What should I be running for stage 9

upbeat moat
south herald
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@upper spoke ur arden should be opposite to the enemyโ€™s

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@bitter shadow run
Saveas
Hendrik
Mirael
Hogan
Ira

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@upbeat moat I suggest u chill out and level shem more for now. Theres no need to rush the stage unless ur very close to unlocking something with it

grim lion
sly sparrow
frosty magnet
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Try switching Arden and Nemora for Fawkes and Estrilda, then use Lucius/Hogan/Estrilda (would try others first tho, she's a but squishy) instead of Lyca @sly sparrow

old ore
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I don't have any trouble with a specific level yet, way too early, but i was wondering what my most optimal lineup would be:

frosty magnet
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Well seeing what you have would help...

frosty magnet
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Switch Vedan out for Hogan

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That way you get a bigger bonus to hp and attack

old ore
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Anything else? Should i ascend him or level up?

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Should i level up the lv1 purple Hogan or anything at all? I don't know how to approach the situation

sly sparrow
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@frosty magnet ehhh my lucius is only lvl 1... also why lb? i got plenty of other heroes too

frosty magnet
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Because faction bonus, and I know, put him in crystal. Mauler v wilder won't work out for you

sly sparrow
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ah

frosty magnet
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bombon reset ira/mirael and level up the purple Hogan

old ore
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Res crystal is locked, still chapter 4-19

frosty magnet
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Reset any hero you're not using in rickety cart, you get access to something that allows you to level others easily later (resonating crystal)

sly sparrow
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@frosty magnet could i use belinda instead of estrilda?

frosty magnet
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Reset them and give Hogan the xp and money

old ore
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But it's diamonds :(

frosty magnet
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Misspelt yeah sorry, meant Belinda. And it's not a lot

sly sparrow
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@frosty magnet do you think hendrik would be a better tank than lucius? or is lucius still better?

old ore
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Aw, i wanted to spare diamonds, but i guess it's inevitable. Who would you recommend gets chopped? Or do i just wait for the res crystal and keep the diamonds?

hushed ermine
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Do you guys think i can beat this level

frosty magnet
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I'd chop Mirael/Ira. And you get lots of diamonds don't worry. And I'm not sure Mehira, I'd guess Hendrik though from looking at def stats

sly sparrow
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i might try both and see

old ore
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Hold on, mirael or ira?

frosty magnet
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pick one

old ore
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Aight thanks for the help

frosty magnet
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Anchi try Tasi, Gorvo, Sav, Brutus, Khasos

sly sparrow
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dammit they both really dont do much...

frosty magnet
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You could try Athalia and the twins

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But you really need another non-wilder tank

sly sparrow
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it looks like they all dont do much :/ poor saveas cant carry alone its almost like my team doesnt last at all

frosty magnet
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Who does Fawkes coffin?

sly sparrow
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brutus

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normally it ends that saveas is versus brutus, golus and isabella... which obviously he cant do cuz brutus spins and he is dead

indigo jolt
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@upbeat moat You could try
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Shem

frosty magnet
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Can't really help you then sorry

sly sparrow
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well thanks for trying

fair sky
opaque dust
pseudo bear
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@opaque dust I guess you could try Position 1-5 ; Lucius Savaes Isabella Estrilda Belinda. Make sure Estrilda is middle back

opaque dust
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thank you!

indigo jolt
opaque dust
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@pseudo bear can you help me with the 11-35 lineup?

pseudo bear
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@opaque dust Umm yeah sure! I am not that great with pve line up though but hit me!

opaque dust
torpid stirrup
pseudo bear
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@opaque dust May be you could try position 1-5; hogan Lucius lyca Savaes Belinda? If it doesnโ€™t work may be remove Belinda for tasi

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@torpid stirrup I would recommend Wilder generally but how many lucius are you missing? Might be worth to try lb if you only missing one copy of him otherwise wilder is the way imo. Play the game how you like it!

torpid stirrup
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@pseudo bear need 2 lucius for ascend

lean flower
pseudo bear
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@torpid stirrup could you list the heores that you have most copies of and their quantity (E+ count as 2, L+ count as 4 )? Only those with 6-7 copies

indigo jolt
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@lean flower Borrow a warek instead of a brutus, it will have the 181 skill and will shred through the armour.

lean flower
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I've tried, it doesn't work

indigo jolt
south herald
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@lean flower Sphinx chick instead of vurk

lean flower
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Either thane melts or Lucius outlasts the time

pseudo bear
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Guys! Aeroโ€™s #1 student is great at line up help so make sure if you have any questions. You can ask him!

south herald
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uhhhh

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abort

indigo jolt
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Try those positions, you need sav to be on the warek shredded target.

lean flower
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My God

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It worked... Thanks guys @indigo jolt @south herald

south herald
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I learned from the best

fair sky
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@indigo jolt sry for the late response, your team worked!! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ thank you! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

lusty meadow
obsidian bridge
lusty meadow
fair sky
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@obsidian bridge I finished 17-24 also today and I have far weaker heroes than you do
I used FL: brutus + shemira
BL: arden lyca tasi
I don't know in which order, but you should be able to clear it

I just finished chapter 17 and I only have a m+ shemira and a m+ brutus

obsidian bridge
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@fair sky Iโ€™ll see what I can do ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I think my heroes are a little under geared beachside Iโ€™ve been concentrating on ascending them

opaque dust
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@pseudo bear sadly it didn't work ๐Ÿ˜ฆ but thank you anyways!

south herald
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Will try one sec

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@opaque dust try
Kelthur
Hogan
Belinda
Lucius
Khasos

lusty meadow
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@south herald Any idea for the level of 110 of Kings Tower?

south herald
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@lusty meadow try using ur arden instead of isabella

opaque dust
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@south herald didn't work ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lusty meadow
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It didn't work for me either :o

south herald
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Didnt expect them to work perfectly @opaque dust ur enemies r over level 141 which is a skill upgrade so the gap is actually pretty big

@lusty meadow thats a hard floor in general I would wait until im overlevel to do it

lusty meadow
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Okay, thanks @south herald

opaque dust
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ugh ok, thank you so much!

somber sapphire
high sluice
bleak nacelle
pseudo bear
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@somber sapphire I think position 1-5; Lucius Butus Tasi Lyca Nem would be for later on when you have like one overleveled character. Now itโ€™s prob Brutus Seirus Lucius Kaz and Nem

somber sapphire
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Tnx

topaz eagle
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Any advice? 15-8 my Shem dies before she can ult in front of either and I canโ€™t even get a close win with friends mercs

indigo jolt
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@topaz eagle What artifact you have on shem?

topaz eagle
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Eye

indigo jolt
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Try with grace.

past tapir
indigo jolt
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@topaz eagle Try this instead
Shem (could use sav instead if has decent gear)
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi

visual quiver
hushed ermine
gray quarry
sleek portal
fierce kayak
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@visual quiver you can beat it with your power. Try:

Nemora/ Rosaline
Hogan
Estrilda
Sav
Belinda

Or

Nemora/Rosaline
Hogan
Belinda
Estrilda
Sav

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@visual quiver You can drop skreg. Can put tasi up.

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@gray quarry you can refer to my early game tips in #classic-questions, pinned message and see if it helps. It says about building Savaes and Arden.

visual quiver
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@fierce kayak thanks. it worked with nemora, hogan, estrilda, sav and belinda on second try

fierce kayak
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@visual quiver Great. Have fun.

gray quarry
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thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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And what do you think about my actual lineup? With your reply I'll level up in priority Savaes and Arden

limber helm
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So my lineup is around lvl 100 - 110 right now. I can't finish laby anymore, enemy heroes are between lvl 120 and 140. Is that because I put 6 heroes in the resonating crystal? It seems to take the total amount of hero levels to calculate the laby difficulty. Would it be wise to delete everyone in the resonating crystal?

fierce kayak
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@gray quarry this game is all about positioning and changing our team heroes and line-up to beat different stage. That's that fun of it. And there are like factional advantage, etc.

But of cos we still focus on a few heroes like Savaes pre 160, Shemira post 161, etc..

Meanwhile you can use
Nemora
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Rosaline

When you pull more heroes.. You will makes changes again ^_^

gray quarry
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Ok thanks, should I look at GloriouS's guide to see what hero I should level up when I got it?

fierce kayak
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@gray quarry you can. Glouries tier list is good but not updated. Afkarena.net has more info but not totally accurate if you ask me.

We mostly aim to build meta team especially for f2p.

Shem post 161 and Brutus to tank. If no Brutus use other tank.

Wilders CC back: tasi lyca Arden nemora. Pick 3 out of 4 depending on stage.

gray quarry
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Can you explain what mean "Wilders CC"? ๐Ÿ˜…

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By the way what should I do about Lyca and Vedan? I've already xp them

pseudo bear
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@gray quarry It means wilders crowd control. Crowd control is like skill or abilities that prevent enemy from doing something like tasi sleep + banish, nemora charm and arden roots for example. By the word xp you mean you max level them for their current ascension? What are those ascension btw

gray quarry
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I mean that I'm already leveling up them so it looks like I wasted some resources for nothing or should I level them up later when I need them?

visual quiver
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you only level 5 heroes

thorn tapir
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@mellow hound faction boost especially since its only maruders

fierce kayak
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@thorn tapir try your setup but lyca over nemora, Brutus over Lucius.

thorn tapir
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My brutus died so do i need to reset?

fierce kayak
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@thorn tapir died?

fierce kayak
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@thorn tapir another line up you can try

Sav
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Atahlia

mellow hound
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Nvm i got it lol

gray quarry
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@fierce kayak Why is Hogan good for my lineup? I'm just curious because I've never used him

fierce kayak
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@gray quarry

  1. rare tanks like ogi golus Hogan are decent early game
  2. they easier to farm to L+ too since they rare
  3. at L+, they can still be feed away.. so not a waste later
  4. for faction bonus
thorn tapir
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@fierce kayak voyage of wonders and my brutus is low ive only pulled 1 copy

mellow hound
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I've tried faction advantage, but i get wrekt

fierce kayak
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@thorn tapir ic. Cos I just need his immue. Cos you other tanks also low level right?

gray quarry
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@fierce kayak So I should level him up first before Lyca, Saevaes and Arden?

thorn tapir
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All my tanks low unfortunately

fierce kayak
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@gray quarry level carry to max first, then tank, lastly support

gray quarry
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So Belinda Lucius.etc first

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I summoned x10 heroes and they all suck ๐Ÿ˜ข

thorn tapir
visual quiver
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Anything I can do to win? Mirael survives too long and her ult destroys my whole team

hybrid zinc
thorn tapir
hybrid zinc
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can't really do much about that, it's all I got :(

thorn tapir
#

We both stuck though lol

hushed ermine
cloud wadi
fierce kayak
cloud wadi
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@fierce kayak awesome thanks!

somber sapphire
hushed ermine
north pelican
#

12-36 help

plush jackal
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I would put estril instead of khasos

hushed ermine
plush jackal
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And belinda up top behind brutus and take nemora off

hushed ermine
#

Me*

plush jackal
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Lucius shem front, belinda tasi savaes back

hushed ermine
#

K

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rip didn't work

plush jackal
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Did you put the better equips on them ?

hushed ermine
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yeah

plush jackal
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Down shem level and belinda and make them all 121 and level them in same range so others could be more useful

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Hmu in dm

tawny jewel
dull hull
plush jackal
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I would use lucius lyca tasi arden eironn

zinc wren
clear saddle
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@dull hull if you can summon a saveas, max him out, hes really good early to mid game

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@zinc wren i think people run 1 brutus vs them all because then you give them all energy and thats not good

plush jackal
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@dull hull 1 lucius 2 eironn 3 arden 4 tasi 5 lyca this is the formation

dull hull
#

@clear saddle just started no luck yet =(
@plush jackal Ty, i'll try that

clear saddle
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@versed canopy maybe swap shem and lucius position and put arden middle?

versed canopy
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@clear saddle tried a few times no dice shemira dies when estridla charges 20 seconds in

clear saddle
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@versed canopy need your arden to keep rooting, do you have call on tasi?

versed canopy
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Yeah

clear saddle
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well if that doesnt work, maybe lyca frontline, shemira behind her and arden middle?

versed canopy
#

Now arden dies instantly, shemira survives the charge but gets killed by kaz a few seconds later, don't know what to upgrade

clear saddle
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hm, i didnt take any screenshots so thats the extent of my help i guess, but maybe more rng and you might get it

versed canopy
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one can only hope, still thanks for the input

clear saddle
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np goodluck

zinc wren
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@clear saddle is that worth giving up 25% attack and hp from 5 faction buff?

indigo jolt
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@zinc wren
If you can get a 181 warek fairly easy clear, even with 160's due to armour shred.

clear saddle
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@zinc wren honestly, the lucius' are gonna get a bunch of energy and shield so idk if its worth or not. im not there yet so try maybe?

zinc wren
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@indigo jolt I have a 180 warek I could use

indigo jolt
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Needs 181.

visual quiver
clear saddle
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Maybe estrilda charge instead of skreg? not sure

visual quiver
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that's actually the wrong formation lmao. it's normally rosa instead of skreg. estrilda sadly has no equipment

clear saddle
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hm

visual quiver
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they are just way too tanky. my ultimates do basically no dmg. there is another fight I could do. I can post a pic

clear saddle
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What relics ya got

visual quiver
clear saddle
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might have to reset tbh... fire/ice pair with sun/moon pair is really good

plush wren
visual quiver
#

are there different opponents if I start from 0?

clear saddle
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opponents stay the same. Try again, get diff relics

visual quiver
#

then what do you mean with reset? what's wrong with my relics or rather what relics should I get instead?

clear saddle
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Aim for fire&ice bringer, theyre no1 priority. then sun/moonstone. then spider thread gloves would be ideal

rough ether
#

Possible/optimal lineups with this specifically for PVE? Currently I'm alternating between Lucius saveas carry as my main two, and I'm not sure what are good team comps with the rest from hogan, nenora, lyca, arden, golus, rosaline and numsi. I'm trying to play around with different ones with and without faction bonus. Just started playing so I'd like to see if there's anything I can optimize!

high sluice
clear saddle
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man you're lacking a lot of cc, depends for what tho

plush wren
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@clear saddle Halppp

clear saddle
#

Didnt someone say i was an inferior helper? ๐Ÿค” XD send it pls

plush wren
#

Check up! Lol

dark holly
clear saddle
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh i didnt seeeeeeeee. you're still stuck?

plush wren
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Yeah, this is 4 stages after the one from last night

clear saddle
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take out the worse tank (estrilda or hogan) put in arden?

plush wren
#

Just by pure stats?

clear saddle
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by whoever survives longer frontline

plush wren
#

Silvina just jumped to Arden and said nope

clear saddle
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oh yeah silvina. if you lower rosalina's def, she might dodge it or bring it to your saveas who can burst her down

stark escarp
broken spire
#

What's best soren lineup?

plush wren
#

Tried that and still failed it whatthefawkes npc Brutus tanks too hard compared to mine

neat nest
#

I'm tempted to sac my E+ Safiya or E+ Golus, along with an Ankhira, to get my Brutus to leg+ (have another E+ of him already) but Golus is basically my only other tank and I read Safiya gets a lot better at higher levels. Is it worth it or should I continue to be patient and wait for another Ankhira fodder?

clear saddle
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dont do your safiya, she might be useful l8r

somber sapphire
craggy coral
plush jackal
#

Why do u have 6 heroes leveled ??

ember bane
clear kraken
ivory dragon
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stuck on 6-4... What team should i use? Should I be saving diamonds for summoning right now or should i be using them on gear? if you need more info let me know!

plucky flint
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@ivory dragon donโ€™t ever buy gear with gems. Only 10x tavern pulls and elite hero shards

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Re: your team, hogan Brutus tasi vedan rosaline is probably best for now. Try to build up a saveas and Arden. Sav can carry you till ch 13-14 and Arden will be useful for long after that

potent juniper
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21-4 anyone? The positioning is kind of random here because I tried a bunch of stuff

languid sapphire
plucky flint
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@languid sapphire need to put nem in for either tasi or Arden. Put her across ferael, she needs to charm him to fear his own team.

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^ the key to unlocking basically any ferael stage

languid sapphire
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She keeps charming the frontline, is it just RNG at this point?

pale kettle
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@ember bane i think lyca just gives more then arden here

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Nemora have to charm ferael

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@languid sapphire get nemora on tasis spot from screenshot, kick Arden and swap shemira with brutus

ivory dragon
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@plucky flint thanks for the advice, I should be getting a lab character tomorrow, should i be going with Nemora, or Shemira?

languid sapphire
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I think Iโ€™ll wait for levels, doesnโ€™t seem to be working ๐Ÿ˜‚. Thx though

teal glade
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@dark tundra gave it a whirl. Vurk gets rekt before hecan ult. E+ is so weak. Brutus being locked away again also means my backline just opens right up

solar python
plush jacinth
teal glade
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Mauler 50. Currently the best I've done with many lineup swaps and changes. Varying between swapping saf and sav. Borrowed a warek though so new input?

Oh god nvm. All i did was put warek in and he steamrolled. This champ is fucked up good

indigo jolt
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@plucky flint Poison relic is generally only good for super high hp bosses, so depends on which PoT.

clear yoke
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Should I sac leg+ Hogan to make Lucius Mythic+? I can replace Hogan with Brutus if I do

plush jacinth
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I would save hogan until Lucius is around 160 @clear yoke

clear yoke
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I can boost him to 160, I have 18M golf and hero exp

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@plush jacinth Iโ€™m either thinking that or level Shem up

plush jacinth
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Shemira is a really good hero so that wouldnโ€™t be a bad idea. Just remember that at I think itโ€™s stage 15 or 16 that you unlock faction towers@clear yoke

opal yoke
pale kettle
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Shemira vs kaz, athalia on top backline, tasi for rosaline, brutus for shield dude

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Lyca for nemora if you got her

opal yoke
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Wow, I've been rotating people around for 3 days and you solved it that quick. Thank you!

pale kettle
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@opal yoke glad could help^^

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@pale kettle swap Arden with shemira

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Silvina dives tasi ye?

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No one gets ults off no matter the lineup, and yeah

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Shemira shiled artifact

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Tasi duras call

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My team is weak to the point where Mirael can nearly 1 shot backlines

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Arden is getting one shot right after his first roots

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Yea can see that

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Fight is over usually right when Shemira gets enough energy to ult

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Even in bottom spot?

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I mean there are times where Shemira gets ult off but it only ticks once

covert osprey
granite chasm
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1 belinda - 2 brutus -3 fawkes - 4 lyca - 5 arden i think u have a chance

covert osprey
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Hmm thanks. Iโ€™ll try that.

oak lance
plush jacinth
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1-Lucius 2-turtle guy 3-Belinda 4-Rowan 5- Lyca @oak lance

forest fox
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How would you fodder any of to increase Lucius or the other tank guy? (Thatโ€™s if you would)

pseudo vapor
jade wedge
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@pseudo vapor Reset Lucius and put him in Crystal. Make Hogan 101. You can easily make a 4/1 team.

Lucius, Hogan/Rosaline, Belinda, Estrilda, Saveas

@forest fox Rewrite your question please

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@oak lance If you can make Lucius stronger than Belinda, you can cheese a lot of levels with Lucius/Rosaline combo

pseudo vapor
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Thank you

burnt knot
dawn python
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do I just max sherima and let her carry?

visual quiver
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I'd argue that sav is better until 160. also he's easier to upgrade to L/L+

dawn python
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alright cheers. do I buy nemora or sherima from the labryinth first?

vital briar
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Hi

orchid heath
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Hey :)

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I'm stuck on ch9 :(

tribal oasis
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@dawn python nemora first

@orchid heath what u need help with?

Reset belinda make sure lucius is highest power. Then lucius rosaline saveas arden rowan/belinda
Core would be lucius rosaline saveas

blazing nexus
orchid heath
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@tribal oasis thank you so much !!!

I just don't know what team to use so I'll try that ! :)

But... Lucius is capped at 100 so I'll try my best to make him strongest but no promises

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@tribal oasis in that lineup is rosalinda on front line with Lucy?

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@tribal oasis struggling to make Lucius's strongest due to saveas and Belinda being legendary

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Ok guys I re did my lineup as:
Lucius
Rosalinda
saveas
Belinda
Arden

Who goes front, Lucius and Rosalinda? Who do I use my excess points on, Rosalinda ?
@tribal oasis

frigid dagger
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@burnt knot I beat that with top down khasos brutus top down warek numisu vurk, all the heroes was lvl 200 but khasos mercenary lvl 220

mighty lion
heady arch
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Swap mirael for Rosa, and make sure she follows Belinda

teal glade
drifting karma
grizzled galleon
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Lineup for Wrizz and Soren pls . Now Iโ€™m use :brutus,Lucius, Shemira,Belinda,Raine

hollow mortar
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Gotta throw thane in

grizzled galleon
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@hollow mortar He's just elite , instead of Belinda ?

steel moat
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This stage is making me lose my fking mind cryingmirael i can't rent out a mythic mercenary brutus but i wonder if i can get through with just legendary brutus?

hollow mortar
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@grizzled galleon Iโ€™d keep Belinda. He might be a little light since heโ€™s just elite. Iโ€™d imagine him for Raine if he was tiered up tho

steel moat
gilded walrus
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@steel moat I know Iโ€™m not as far as you, but I used this on the same formation but flip-flopped. Idk if your Brutus can do it though. Have you looked on YouTube?

steel moat
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Yeah that's one of the formations i've seen but there are several variation on it and i'm not sure which would be optimal to run multiple times ulricry

pale kettle
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Any codes for new members?

gilded walrus
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jenrmb3n3a

pale kettle
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Thank you so much!

gilded walrus
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^5 scrolls, 1 Rare Hero, and 500 diamonds. But go to #classic-questions next time ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

pale rover
teal glade
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Anyone have ideas on esperia 55 i posted above? Hoping to knock out 60 on all in the next hr

sly dirge
quasi radish
shy tinsel
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Bit of a dumb question, with my lineup should I bump my Belinda up to Legendary with Hogan? He is one of my main 5 but I have an elite Hogan as backup.

tiny spoke
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@shy tinsel get another legendary tier elite+ so you can send belinda directly to L+ !

fierce kayak
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@sly dirge Hi buddy. Do post your roster again but together with stage enemies position. Else people here can't advise you as we won't remember how the stages in game look like. ๐Ÿ™‚

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@quasi radish Hi buddy, same but you need to post full roster too so that people here can give you better advise.

sly dirge
fierce kayak
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@sly dirge it's very early to plan for anything for you. Just chill enjoy play and learn this game first. You be able to pull more heroes early game then can post again to discuss.

sly dirge
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@fierce kayak i wanna beat dat lvl asap(

tiny spoke
fierce kayak
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@sly dirge enemies position pls. Just like what people above post. Together with roster so that we don't have to scroll up and down๐Ÿ™‚

sly dirge
inland oak
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Any recommendations on how I can get past 7-40? Here is what I've got so far and what the lineup I've been using

fierce kayak
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@sly dirge I forgot if crystal is available for you but try to only level top 5 most ascended hero only. Rest of heroes place on crystal. So that all your resources focus no top 5, while rest of heroes level follows the lowest level of top 5 for free.

Reset morvus Arden golus Savaes for now. They are still blue so not useful atm.

Use
Shemira
Brutus
Estrilda
Hogan
Rosaline

Just focus level Shemira 20 or 40 levels ahead of the rest. Then level tank next Last supports. You can read up my early game tips in #classic-questions, pinned message if you keen.

winter pebble
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Could anyone help? Should I make lucius legend or Belinda legend +? I don't currently use her, my setup being lucius, estrilda, tasi, nemora, lyca

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But I'm wondering whether I should change anyone for her as I could make her leg +

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My full roster, scroll up for my question please! Thanks :)

drifting karma
jade wedge
mystic hare
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I am so frustrated, what are characters that can be used as tanks? I am having a lot of trouble filling slots

sly dirge
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@fierce kayak ty for your advice. And I don't really understand this crystal mechanics. I only have two slots for heroes and they are both used today. I have to wait 24 hours to use the new heroes there. For today I reset the levels to the heroes (for 20 crystals) about 15++ times, so two slots with a timer 24 hours dont look very useful

pale rover
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@winter pebble If you don't use Belinda, don't waste the fodder on her and wait to make Lucius L until you can make him L+. That's because you could get other Lightbearer units that would benefit more from becoming L+ and that are easier to obtain (Fawkes), while you might end up with more fodder again by the time you get enough Lucius to L+. Your current team is fine as long as Estrilda can hold her ground in the frontline.

sacred zephyr
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At lower lvls like early game? @mystic hare
Lucius...
???

pale kettle
granite chasm
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@pale kettle shemira 1 / brutus 2 /belinda 3 / lyca 4 / arden 5 , you gonna win

pale rover
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@drifting karma
Get Brutus to 200.

Lyca/Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira/Lyca
Tasi

winter pebble
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@pale rover ok thank you. I know estrilda isn't the best but she holds her own more or less in the front and I don't think I have a better option for her spot. Should I break the 2light/3wilder aura I have going to put someone stronger there?

pale rover
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@winter pebble You can use Hendrik in her stead if she dies too fast and see how that goes if you want to continue the 3-2 bonus.

granite chasm
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@pale kettle yea i forget to tell you its kinda rng because your arden have to root the other arden first

winter pebble
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Won't I lack damage then? That's my worry, since lyca is my only real damage other than estrilda. I don't really know whether I have better options with my roster that I'm just not seeing

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Sorry to be a pain, and thanks for the help!

pale rover
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@jade wedge
Need more ascensions.

Nemora/Arden
Grezhul
Arden/Nemora
Kaz/Seirus
Shemira

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@winter pebble I would say Brutus, but his ascension is a bit too low. That's about it for your roster. You can also try Lucius Hendrik front, Estrilda/Belinda Saveas Tasi/Arden back for the minimum bonus.

jade wedge
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@pale rover What do you mean by more ascensions? I need more copies?

sacred zephyr
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Hey could I get some help? Tasiโ€™s passive targets Bel and Estrilda-Morvus stomp my โ€œteamโ€ anyways

winter pebble
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@Aerostati thank you very much. You seem to be answering everyone at the moment so I'll become one less person bothering you. Have a good night

pale rover
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@jade wedge Yes, more ascensions means you need more copies and fodder. Your enemies are all fully ascended, but you can still try, or borrow a high level Shemira to help you damage. I can't say for sure if she will survive if the others die too fast.

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@winter pebble You're welcome!

silent wraith
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aero the best space

pale rover
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@silent wraith Not CS but still CS tasi happytasi

jade wedge
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So Im basically stuck by luck. Lame
@pale rover Would you say Kaz is worth it? I can actually L+ her

pale rover
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@sacred zephyr That stage might need some Arden to hold down Belinda and Morvus for a bit.

sacred zephyr
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Ok
Thanks for the help haha ik thereโ€™s not much to work with rn

sly dirge
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so i'm trying this setup/ still not work. btw rosaline should follow shemira or tank?

light grotto
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I'm looking for a way to add another healer to my campaign lineup without losing out on my heavy defense. I don't want to sacrifice attack power, either. I just need my team to gen health as fast or faster than they take hits.

forest fox
pale rover
simple remnant
feral goblet
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Is this a good enough team to deal more damage to Soren? Whatโ€™s a good general team to max damage against Soren?

worthy grove
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Stuck on 8-28

frank scarab
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Try to find other good heroes from other factions (grezhul, baden, wilders, etc) @feral goblet thats a pretty solid guild boss team in a vacuum however soren is gb and faction dmg bonus could fuck u up

pale kettle
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@worthy grove send a screenshot of 8-28

worthy grove
feral goblet
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@frank scarab I have a grezhul but no Baden unfortunately. I could try in the back Nemora, Lyca and Tasi and in the front Brutus and Saveas.

sand rune
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Would I get more utility out of leveling Kaz to L+ or should I just level Tasi to L+. I realize the obvious answer, but want to get an opinion or two.

frank scarab
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NO NOT TASI
TASI IS TRASH AGAINST SOREN
Anything cc is hot fucking garbage bc it doesnt work
Im not sure if thisll work but
Lucius grezhul
Nemora lyca saveas

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It doesnt have fac bonus unfort but idk what to do about that :^( i use shem ovwr sav these days cus shem is at 161+ now for me

Its not that the fairy is fucked hard its that that fairy is kinda useless bc its cc doesnt do anything to guild bosses anyway

feral goblet
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Gotcha idk that fairy could get fucked hard by Soren

pale kettle
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@worthy grove who does silvina target? also do nemora and tasi get their ults off?

frank scarab
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TLDR cc is bad vs soren
Good stuff to look out for is damage + healing and sustain + things that support ur team to do more damage + in soren's case, guys who spawn dudes behind soren to distract him from the back (god it feels so good whwn he charms behind him)

pale kettle
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@sand rune unless you're using kaz a lot and/or more than tasi I would wait to get tasi L+

worthy grove
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@pale kettle yes they get their ultis off. And she's targeting the mage in the middle

feral goblet
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Iโ€™ve recently ascended my Brutus to Mythic FINALLY. And need advice on leveling. How far should I level Brutus and then level the rest?

pale kettle
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@worthy grove try switching shemira with silvina . also do you have Arden? if so swap silvina with Arden.

south herald
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@feral goblet leave saveas at 160 and get Brutus to ur highest lvl. You might want to get a carry tho like a shemira

worthy grove
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@pale kettle arden just on elite.

feral goblet
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I wish I have enough dust for Hogan so at least everyone gets to 141 to unlock a new skill

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Maybe I could bump up Brutus 10 levels

pale kettle
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@worthy grove well just try switching shemira with silvina and see how it goes. if it doesn't work i'll see if i can come up with a different idea

simple remnant
worthy grove
pale kettle
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gg!

ivory dragon
pale kettle
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@simple remnant put athalia center and see if that helps. if not i have some other ideas

upper plover
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@ivory dragon just buy Shemira till shes Ascended

pale kettle
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@ivory dragon what are your current heroes? id reccomend shemira but it could depend on your current lineup ig

ivory dragon
pale kettle
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@ivory dragon definitely get shemira, she gets op

ivory dragon
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And should i be using her now?

pale kettle
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So I'm kinda stuck

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i mean if your current lineup works you don't have to but if you do or you get stuck try putting shemira in. just always keep tasi or arden in your lineup tho for cc @ivory dragon

ivory dragon
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@pale kettle thanks for your help!

worthy grove
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@pale kettle added you as a friend here ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ

nimble dune
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They completely annihilate me every time.

simple remnant
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@pale kettle it worked thanks to the duo of nemora and rosaline

pseudo bear
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@nimble dune Have you try putting this position 1-5 ; Hendrik Lucius Rosalina Mehira Belinda?

nimble dune
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@pseudo bear yes, still didnโ€™t slow them down. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

random verge
pseudo bear
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@random verge Swap nem out for Raine or Belinda

random verge
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@pseudo bear wouldn't everybody just die though?

pseudo bear
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Lucius should be enough to keep them alive? Also sometimes it doesnโ€™t matter if they die if you get higher dmg. You gotta try experimenting to see which one work best

wide wasp
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@tiny spoke try to not make that many heroes legendary, or else you will struggle with getting the fodder to make the legendaries you do have into mythic/mythic+ later

random verge
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I'll try taking nem out, couldn't hurt. Thanks @pseudo bear

nimble dune
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Whoโ€™s the best character to stun or slow down the enemies?

clear saddle
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Arden or tasi

vernal fox
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Hi, I'm new to this server.
How good are Isabella and Niru? I'm planning to ascend either or both of them.

clear saddle
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Hey @vernal fox welcome, itโ€™s better to ask questions in #classic-questions since thereโ€™s no slowmode. Tbh both arenโ€™t very good. Isabella gets better but thatโ€™s a long stretch still

vernal fox
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I see and thanks! By long stretch, do you mean till very late game?

clear saddle
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Yes around level 200 or so or maybe a little earliwr

vernal fox
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Ah I see

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And Vurk and Numisu are also useless or for the late game right?

clear saddle
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Vurk gets a lot better late game as well,
Numisu... not so much

vernal fox
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Okay and yeah dude throwing totems seem pretty useless to me xD

clear saddle
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Heโ€™s pretty situational but donโ€™t throw away ascended tier heroes such as vurk, numisu etc theyโ€™re rare to come by

vernal fox
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Okay ๐Ÿ‘

quasi radish
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What do I do

clear saddle
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@quasi radish no shemira? Ok. You need nemora middle to charm ferael idk whoโ€™s gonna be your dps tho

muted cairn
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Nemora
--- Brutus
Tasi
--- Estrilda
Belinda

pale kettle
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Who should I Lego: Ferael or Grezhul?

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Also should I LEGO Belinda or save?

sonic nova
clear saddle
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@pale kettle show rest of your heroes?

pale kettle
clear saddle
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@pale kettle alright, some advice for you here. seems you already have arden and saveas levelled up which is good they are really strong, but you want to overlevel your carry as much as possible so in this case, you want to pump your saveas' levels as much as you can. then level the tank and then spread the levels evenly. Next, dont ascend heroes to L unless they can go straight to L+ or else you might be wasting ascension materials

pale kettle
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So get Sav to 120 then level tanks then all the rest?

clear saddle
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Yes, if you can get saveas to L, then get him straight to 140, hes gonna be dishing the main DPS. afterwards, level your tanks and Arden after, he gets really good at 141, being able to root 3 people

crystal osprey
pale kettle
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@clear saddle I cant get him to L without using my Brutus so thatโ€™s a no go

nimble dune
clear saddle
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@crystal osprey do you have an arden? if so, put your brutus against the ogi, your shem against the enemy brutus, replace nemora with arden

@pale kettle yeah, when you can, get him as high as you can

nimble dune
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This is all I have left. Is it possible to win?

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Fuckers just wonโ€™t die!

lime hamlet
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Ayone have a build advice

clear saddle
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@lime hamlet imo, saveas is a lot more reliable of a carry at lower levels, but maybe you just need to afk a bit more? also, your shem has faction disadvantage so thats why she wont be so successful.

lime hamlet
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ah

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everyone always tells me nemara is strong but i dont feel it

clear saddle
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Nemora is quite good but shes quite underlevelled so maybe thats why. shes good as a support since she heals and charms an enemy

lime hamlet
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is 2 supports smart? or should i replace one of the supports?

clear saddle
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Actually later on in the game i run 3 supports with 1 tank and 1 kind of tank. Shemira gets quite tanky later on despite being a dps

lime hamlet
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who r the 3 supports u run?

clear saddle
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Tasi Lyca Arden. Lyca is kinda support/utility. Then i run brutus tank with shemira carry. Use lyca for her haste which is really useful

lime hamlet
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ah cool, i have one more question, should i continue to put levels on shemira, or try to get the other 4 to the same level as my shemira

clear saddle
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Honestly, leveling your shemira isn't a bad idea, she can still carry

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But saveas is a lot easier to obtain. Also some advice, get an arden running, then replace your nemora with him, his control is otherworldly. also keep buying shemiras from labyrinth, shes really good

lime hamlet
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ah man i bought nemora from the labyrinth

clear saddle
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Its ok, getting 1 of each is a good start, focus on shem now

fierce kayak
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@lime hamlet you should be able to buy 2 heroes in your first month.

lime hamlet
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ah okay

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this is my second day playing

clear saddle
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good start actually, keep going

sweet thunder
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Anyone have any idea on what I could do to pass 11-24? Only stage I've ever been hardstuck on and I've tried nearly everything I know. I see I should get an Arden up and running, but used him for a legendary Lyca quite regrettably

clear saddle
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@sweet thunder can you show the enemy setup? also a rare arden can probably do the same job of rooting

sweet thunder
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sure one sec

clear saddle
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@sweet thunder who deals more damage? your saveas or your shem? drop the one that deals the least damage, then swap in lyca and any arden you can find that you can put in your crystal

ember bane
clear saddle
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But if you get crystal to 141, thats when arden gets his power spike and can root 3 heroes

@ember bane theres no wrong choice for that one, maybe nemora since its easier to get her ascended?

frosty kite
sweet thunder
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Saveas easily does a ton of damage, but Shem pops off sometimes and can kill 4+ heroes depending.

clear saddle
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@frosty kite arden sir. arden is gonna help you soo much. then swap out nemora for arden and put in a tank in place of fawkes

lime hamlet
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why is arden so much better than nemora?

frosty kite
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Alright Iโ€™ll try that when I can get an Arden to a decent ascension/get an Arden in general

pale kettle
clear saddle
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@lime hamlet he can root up to 3 people. when they are rooted they can do nothing for like 5 seconds

blazing nexus
ember bane
clear saddle
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@ember bane dang you really have no lightbearers at all huh? lol just depends who you can get more copies of tbh. your main comp is already solid so just focus on getting heroes that can reach ascended fast

fierce kayak
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@frosty kite proper levelling planning is for example Shemira 180, rest of heroes 140. Then level tank/arden next to 141.

Enough dust then level supports past 141. If not, just continue level tank next.

Try to post full roster together with stage next time. Either use lucius 2nd tank or You can try Lyca as as 2nd frontline. Backline tasi nemora Arden.

ember bane
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@clear saddle should i use Faction scroll for lightbear or still wilders ?

clear saddle
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@ember bane wilderssssssssssss

ember bane
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As now I am on chapter 20 but difficult to pass every stage

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle try
Tasi
Shem
Arden
Lyca
Nemora

clear saddle
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@ember bane same for me, it gets worse later, ulmus is ultimate raid boss

ember bane
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Ohk didn't knew that si need to get ulmus to mystic >>

clear saddle
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@ember bane no as in you fight like 6 ulmus' throughout the chapter and hes fucking tanky and its rly hard

ember bane
rigid marsh
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Any help on 9-40?

clear saddle
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@rigid marsh can you show the rest of your heroes too?

rigid marsh
clear saddle
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Dunno how many times i gotta say but ardennnnnnnnnnn

fierce kayak
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@ember bane you can ask Tuesday. I will parking at chap 19.

frank scarab
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wait 9 ur name is in a weeb font now

clear saddle
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@fierce kayak nooo parking is really expensive in chap 19

rigid marsh
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Oh I've never thought of using Arden. Barely even have him

pseudo bear
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@rigid marsh He is great at 141 for three roots

frank scarab
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Bruh
Arden is some S tier shit
Go get one

fierce kayak
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Hi Guys, please post both Full roster and Stage enemy position together. So that others can advise more accurately. Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

And together please so that they don't have to scroll up and down.

pseudo bear
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Also 9 your name look less cool now. The buffalo doesnโ€™t help

clear saddle
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what 9 said ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sudden sparrow
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That message should be pinned

fierce kayak
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๐Ÿท

clear saddle
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๐Ÿฑ

grand plume
pale kettle
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@fierce kayak it worked thanks! as usual shemira was the only one left๐Ÿ˜‚

clear saddle
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@grand plume ok first off... you only need to level 5 main heroes with the highest ascension, the resonating crystal will do the rest

fierce kayak
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@frank scarab I dunno.. I found and find it cute ๐Ÿ™‚

ember bane
blazing nexus
grand plume
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aight @clear saddle

clear saddle
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@ember bane for wrizz i use shemira baden estrilda belinda and rosa, gets almost 40mil

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle Great. Ya.. it always happens ^_^

Do rmb 4 Wilders helps vs full wilder team or even GB team. Give it a try next time if others doesn't work.

hushed girder
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whos baden?

clear saddle
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graveborn dude that summons copies of himself

zinc wren
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Any tips for beating The Solar Plane? What level should I be? I've been having a ton of trouble beating the 240s, much less the bosses. My levels are 220/200/180/180/180

hushed girder
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@clear saddle not sure if i faced it before

clear saddle
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you won't have faced him in campaign thats for sure. maybe in labyrinth

ember bane
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that guy

hushed girder
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oh the mummy

ember bane
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@clear saddle will E+ enough or I need fully Mystic for high dps

plush wren
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Mines E only. @ember bane tbh shemira is 99% of the damage. but for soren baden is reallly good

rigid marsh
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@plush wren what level is it?

plush wren
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6-16

rigid marsh
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I would suggest putting Thoran where Hogan is and brutus where Rosaline is.

ember bane
plush wren
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Yeah Hogan just insta dies

rigid marsh
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Did you try the different lineup? Did it help?

clear saddle
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@ember bane your level 1 tasi wont help ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

opal yoke
clear saddle
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@opal yoke ardennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

ember bane
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@ember bane i think if you run lyca into ogi with arden behind lyca you should be able to root first, then put nemora middle and shemira against niru

opal yoke
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my arden is getting taken out super quick. What formation would give him a chance to do his thing?

clear saddle
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middle back? put dura's eye on him

valid jay
karmic mantle
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My thoughts) Boost Belinda up to 121, put Estrilda and Rayne into the resonating crystal for factional damage.

sand rune
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@humble egret hogan probably then

humble egret
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@clear saddle Hogan is in crystal

clear saddle
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nvm im blind whoever honestly lol doesnt make too much of a difference

tall shard
wide laurel
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Saveas is pretty lovely L+

tall shard
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Sounds good. I haven't used him much in favor of Fawkes but I may sub him in for a little bit

tropic zealot
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@tropic zealot Use either Lucius or Brutus, put Shemira in front, and put Arden and Lyca at the back. You can build Arden fairly easily, pull Wilders hopefully for Lyca.

tropic zealot
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Hmm so up front would be Shemira and Brutus? (I dislike lucius if I'm honest). Then I replace lucius & Saveas with arden and lyca?

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I fed a legendary lyca into tasi. Also, is my Shemira strong enough to be up front?

pale rover
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@tropic zealot Lucius is actually better with Shemira than Brutus is, but the meta is Brutus with her so you can definitely do either. Don't feed ascended tier heroes, that L Lyca that you fed was super crucial to the trio Wilder backline. 161+ Shemira can frontline.

supple pulsar
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is duo hypo good? or should i just build trio wilders

pale rover
pale kettle
pale rover
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@pale kettle What are you asking?

plucky flint
hushed ermine
fierce kayak
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@plucky flint try this ^

plucky flint
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@fierce kayak I tried that earlier but my shem keeps dying before ult. I maybe just need to afk more

pale rover
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@plucky flint Brutus needs to be at least 180.

Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Shemira

fierce kayak
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@plucky flint erm.. You power should be fine. I mean still possible as some dudes still using M+ Shem at chap 20 (not sure how pump their gears are).

But of cos.. if it's like me low power.. I did try a lot of times to get the RNG right.

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@plucky flint Athalia is also a wilder card that can help against Wilders team. Against Arden. Don't have to be high ascend.

silent wraith
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hes more under powered than I was lol

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wait actually we have same cp, I was looking at 9s SS

plucky flint
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@silent wraith did you use the same lineup? How the hell did you keep shem alive till ult? I havenโ€™t gotten her to ult once in this formation, never mind timing it with tasi

silent wraith
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mine is near 200 ascended, so she cud tank a bit
how many shem dupes till u get yours ascended

fierce kayak
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@silent wraith I won ^_^. But now.. my fingers nearly break for very stage to get the perfect RNG nearly every stage.. due to low power..

silent wraith
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@fierce kayak ch20 now?

fierce kayak
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@silent wraith haven't.. not the time yet. Will reach it before tarven event ends.

plucky flint
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@silent wraith just 1 dupe needed. Iโ€™m thinking of paying 1000 gems after next lab to reset my store

clear saddle
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@silent wraith interesting name ๐Ÿ˜

silent wraith
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^ I dun know this guy