with limiting fodder as theyve done people who cant spend are limited.if they allowed any faction to be used as fodder prior to leg it would make it a bit easier
#lineup-help
hushed girder
solemn gull
Any help?
brisk spade
Hey guys I was using these 5 as my team and I tried using Saveas both in backline and frontline but he really fell off lately and seems to be worse than level 61 belinda, the maulers in Act 4 and 5 feel like they take no damage from saveas and just one shot him in return, should I go for a more mauler heavy team without dropping saveas or go for something else like I did with Belinda? (I have 2 spots open in resonator)
pale rover
@edgy surge
Nemora (try to charm the opposite Nemora/Arden, wear call)
Brutus (eye)
Lyca
Shemira (if she gets charmed reset, wear Blade)
Tasi (grace)
pale kettle
any help?,i can’t pass it
small acorn
@pale kettle shem front instead of grez, and put another mage at rear to bait silvina. But put thay mage beind hogan
solemn gull
No one wanted to help me again 😔😔😔
small acorn
@solemn gull need lyca so tasi can banish front khasos before his first throw hits. And replace lucius with brutus. Lucius will die too quickly to enemy saveas
@solemn gullalso shem can go front
pale kettle
or use nara to bait silvina?
pale rover
@solemn gull
It's a pretty challenging lineup stage.😅
Fawkes (blade)
Lyca (she'll die, just for haste.. grace if she can dodge)
Tasi (call)
Shemira (eye)
Nemora (chalice if you have, drape if not)
pale rover
@pale kettle Build at least an Arden up. Easier than Tasi to get to max ascension, you'll need them like greenfrogs said
pale kettle
need a lot of fodder for that i think and i’m kinda low on diamonds
desert basin
Diamonds come with time
pale rover
Scrolls, you should get at least 10 per week more or less so that will help with summons too. And friend points are decent sources of blues
sly shadow
Niru healing bullshit ruins me
desert basin
I would try putting a lot of DPS or knock-up on him. It always worked for me. I used Hogan and Saveas to knock him down
pale rover
@sly shadow Niru has to die first. Otherwise, every one of his enemies that die first will heal him and make him a bit stronger.
Saveas
Skreg (disrupt, bonus)
Arden/Ira
Ulmus
Tasi
pale rover
Awesome! Congrats on progression. @sly shadow
sly shadow
Now, this kaz is always annoying
stable scarab
This is my build currently. Ankira is pretty horrible, but the 5 Mauler bonus is awesome. My question is, should I replace her with Shemira from the lab store?
Currently stuck on 5-20.
brisk spade
Did you try swapping rosaline in her place or swapping bottom and top backliners?
hushed girder
@stable scarab make that savaes yiu have legendary first as he can carry you
pale rover
@sly shadow
Same lineup, just move them around.
Tasi
Ulmus
Arden
Skreg (knock Ogi up)
Saveas
stable scarab
I don't have multiples of him yet to make legendary :o
hushed girder
and over level him by 20-30 levels over rest of your team
brisk spade
How many saveas is that, 12 for legendary?
hushed girder
should be 3 or 4 from where its at now
brisk spade
He only has 1 or 2 saveas I think he needs way more than 3 or 4
stable scarab
Ok so:
- Swap Rosaline for Ankhira
- Overlevel Saveas from the rest
- Get Saveas legendary (not possible currently)
tacit kayak
got any idea? been stuck here for a week
pale rover
@stable scarab 5 man team bonus is good, but a team with good synergy > bigger bonus. Do get Saveas as high up as you can when you can, replace Ankhira with Arden (work on him as well if you don't have him). Safiya can stay there first.
brisk spade
Saveas feels terrible at rare+ for me too, definitely needs his stats
pale rover
Yeah you'll definitely need him at least at E.
stable scarab
So Arden would be better than Shemira?
brisk spade
@tacit kayak shouldn't you cart one of your characters?
sly shadow
Wow skreg cc helps so much
stable scarab
I have a Rare Arden, would need to work on leveling him. I could get Shemira from Lab store rm
pale rover
@tacit kayak
Arden/Tasi
Lyca (hopefully she dodges, if not sacrifice for haste)/Shemira
Nemora (charm Ferael or repeat)
Brutus
Shemira/Lyca
@stable scarab
You need Arden. He's one of the easiest CC to ascend to maximum, and even 22 onwards he's still used situationally. Work on him and Saveas and you'll have a much easier time moving forward. Shemira is dps, so she would be replacing Saveas after 160.
stable scarab
Awesome, thanks for the advice!
desert basin
Shemira at 161 is where she starts to shine, her heal while ulting can really help her. (just adding on)
stable scarab
I actually have 3 Arden so I'll work on ascending.
desert basin
Good idea 😄
sly shadow
@pale rover cant cc niru with skreg cause of kaz is there anything else I could use to take care of him?
sand rune
Stuck on 17-24. Seems like a pray to RNGesus level where Nemora charms Ferael and Tasi lives long enough to ult, but after 100+ tries it ain’t working.
stable scarab
I can ascend Arden to E But I'd have to eat an R+ Ira. Good idea or bad?
sand rune
@stable scarab Arden > Ira. I say definitely
pale rover
@sly shadow You're going to have to start levelling the rest of your team soon. Saveas behind Skreg is your option to down Kaz and Niru, Arden mid back. Ira would help against Niru, you can try swapping out Ulmus with Tasi and see how that goes.
@sand rune It's the level gap. You can put Brutus in as frontliner, move Lyca to the back bottom and remove either Arden or Tasi, whoever seems to help less in that stage.
sand rune
@pale rover Beat it! brought in Brutus and took out Arden and got great RNG about 15 tries later. Thanks!
pale rover
@sand rune Awesome to hear!
rigid dragon
Need help with 14-38!
stable scarab
Is Golus worth trying to get to L?
fierce kayak
@stable scarab golus and actually the rare tank heroes are quite decent. If you don't have a good tank.. he is decent in early game.
But try to only ascend him if he can go L+ right away. If only L.. Try to wait.
Same goes to other heroes.
Unless you wish to break level cap.
burnt knot
Any advice for this? Last one I need for the next quest
fierce kayak
@rigid dragon it will be good of you can post both line-up and roster together so that others can give better advise.
dark tundra
Master heyo master master
rigid dragon
Here @fierce kayak
dark tundra
Help us master
fierce kayak
@stable scarab Arden and Savaea are 2 heroes from rare category whom you would like to focus on.
Savaes best carry pre 160
Arden one of best CC hero with 3 roots at 141 (can be use till chap 22+/-)
pseudo bear
Master! We have come to show you respect
fierce kayak
@dark tundra what master. You are my mentor
@pseudo bear u too
dark tundra
We r a good student now. Praise us mster
pale rover
I can sleep now, thanks @fierce kayak lmao
dark tundra
Master is so kind and humble. I want to be like him
fierce kayak
@pseudo bear and I need your warek for flr 60.. bidoof ask me borrow from you but your warek still with him 😂
@pale rover I actually gtg sleep soon too. Just while come in a while before nap. Night Aero
@dark tundra 
pseudo bear
@pale rover night!
dark tundra
@pale rover night aero
fierce pasture
Need a good layout for 12-24 using the hero’s I have
pale rover
@dark tundra @pseudo bear @fierce kayak Night all 
twin flicker
Go for Nemora M+ and with the 2 copies to A or go for Lyca / Tasi M first ?
brisk spade
I tried more or less everything, any suggestions? Rosaline follows Saveas even though Tasi has more attack btw
fierce kayak
@rigid dragon u didn't buy Shem from lab? You need lyca for your Arden to root first. Or you can use Athalia mirror enemy Arden to disable him.
fierce pasture
Any suggestions
brisk spade
I mean they have like 1.5 times your stats, you got this far means he op carried no?
fierce kayak
@twin flicker your top 5 are M and above already?
oblique phoenix
Stuck on 13-12, any thoughts? Apparently some guy on YouTube beat it with this comp with his crystal at lvl 121 lmao
brisk spade
@oblique phoenix his tasi is 141 could that be the deciding factor?
worthy valve
Cant get past this. Any suggestions?
oblique phoenix
@brisk spade this is the one I'm looking at, I think his Saveas has mythic gear or something because mine can hardly kill Golus quickly
brisk spade
Sorry I made an oopsie yeah I was also looking at that one
twin flicker
@fierce kayak shemira is A, Brutus M+ and then then Nemora Lyca Tasi .
brisk spade
He says saveas, brutus and tasi have 3 mythic each I think
tepid current
Stuck on 11-36. Any tips?
fierce kayak
@twin flicker so top 5 only nemora Shem and Brutus is M right?
So I think you need to aim top 5 M to make Shem above 200 which I think you are aware.
What chap are you at now? I myself will try my very best to only ascend heroes above L+ if I have their 4 x copies ready as a f2p
pseudo bear
You lie Sen9ie
fierce kayak
@pseudo bear no.. he is the last one I need to follow thru. Only him halfway..
@dark tundra hey.. you both like side by side real life isn't?
@twin flicker generally L+ to Ms.. maybe nemora is better for stats. Lyca doesn't make a huge diff. Tasi is ok.
M to A.. Lyca is preferred as she be will be a damage dealer rather than just haste.
For your case.. if really need to Ascend or break level with no other options.. I will go with tasi. Since just short of her one copy only.
@dark tundra @pseudo bear Night again. Confirm.
@dark tundra @pseudo bear you both also should sleep already. It's time.
feral goblet
Stuck on 12-12 any ideas to get pass this?
desert basin
@feral goblet Have you tried swapping in Tasi/Lucius for Lyca/Nemora/Saveas?
feral goblet
Tasi and Lucius don’t live long enough and get one shot easily
twin flicker
@fierce kayak thx, i think i bring the other 2 to M first. And then, M+ and A if i have copies of them
sly shadow
I dont understand is my saveas too weak is there a specific comp for him am I just under levelled?
desert basin
@feral goblet I would work on leveling your heroes up more then if you can. I got passed it using Lucius, Hogan, Tasi, Saveas, and Shemira.
old ridge
Any ideas how to place them? I tried to charm belinda with nemora but cant cuz od angelo
tepid current
Don't Frontline tasi @sly shadow try frontlining Sav instead.
craggy talon
Any chance for me or am I screwed until RNG gives me Brutus/Lucious/Lyca
forest pike
Should I level ul my Isabella or Nemora? Both are mythic+ and I'm already close to getting ascended Nemora
@craggy talon you can actually replace your kaz with shemira as a frontline and then replace tasi with arden. He'll disable the enemy saveas. Also replace ogi with hogan. Elemental bonuses don't make that much of a difference
craggy talon
Probably my gear and levels, everyone just gets melted before they can ult
sly shadow
Any ideas? Silv pretty much instakills whatever she dives on
forest pike
Not sure if you can progress without a solid frontline. See to leveling up ulmus and skreg
sly shadow
Ulmus is capped by ascension
fickle meteor
Any ideas? 15-40
forest pike
You'll have to grind to roll for him and then take him out of the ascension to level him up
violet pecan
@fickle meteor try to charm fareal
fickle meteor
I keep trying but tasi keeps banishing him before nemora can charm @violet pecan
trail gate
Any advice? Mauler tower.
sly shadow
@forest pike so I'm stumped? I thought saveas would carry way further
forest pike
@sly shadow pretty much. This'll happen a few times but it doesn't take too long to grind for diamonds and scrolls through the daily and weekly quests. Saveas heavily relies on being protected so he can dish out as much damage as possible, even if he does seem unkillable sometimes
@trail gate with a 200k power difference, don't think there's much you can do
sly shadow
I need nemora or smthing it's so annoying that I have no good healer
brisk spade
I have 2 slots open in resonating crystal (also rosaline follows saveas, also belinda E at 63 not shown here)
forest pike
Would probably put arden and eironn in the resonating crystal @brisk spade
brisk spade
Any suggestions on how to beat the level? I'll have a 3rd slot open in 2 hours as well
forest pike
@brisk spade you probably would want to stack all your damage at the bottom so that you can get rid of more enemies faster, because you'll need a lot of firepower to kill golus because of his passive.
brisk spade
Ok I'll try some stuff
fair sky
forest pike
Elemental bonuses really don't matter and fawkes will get rid of the ferael ghost. You can replace khasos with lucius and replace numisu with nemora. Switching safiya with arden or tasi will be good because they'll provide some cc
I've gotten to chapter 16 without the bonus and can get through levels fairly easily with a little bit of grinding @fair sky
sly shadow
@forest pike is there no comp that you think would work out of these?
Anyone able to recommend a comp for this?
F r u s t r a t i o n
idle remnant
help please :0
fading cipher
Help wth 20-19 please
weary socket
Help 😊
glossy furnace
Please help a newbie player
frigid dagger
@idle remnant top down shemira brutus top down nemora lyca arden
untold rivet
Any tips on what I can try to beat them?
fickle kayak
@glossy furnace ur team looks good XD u can put ur levels as much as possible into belinda imo or high ascended saveas if u get him and can try golus to tank once hogan becomes too squishy around lvl 120 ^^
tribal oasis
fickle kayak
@untold rivet maybe u can try arden instead of silvina for more cc and put saveas to middle or front to kill niru if u can asap
untold rivet
The first run did worse than my current lineup, lol.
Same result for the next 3 runs
fickle kayak
It can happen, arden needs to root isabella if possible and niru so place him in different spots to try
Your arden is only e+... hmm maybe u can keep silvina but try swap saveas with hogan position and place thane maybe back top or middle so he can attack niru too
untold rivet
I put Silvina back in, and removed Hogan, then I won
honest storm
Anyone up for help? Or just wait?
fickle kayak
Naice! @untold rivet
untold rivet
Silvina being level 140 might just be the reason I did so much better with her in the queue
fickle kayak
Yeah and that, for sure hogan will begin to drop off at this point so u can feed him for the uhm... ‘greater good’ XD
untold rivet
My major problem is the King's Tower floor I am is currently using 2 Nemora
fickle kayak
Belinda and silvina should be great to take on the nemora^^
untold rivet
They can't get to them, Estrilda and Golus, both being of I think M rank, are devestating my team cause tof the Nemora healing
fickle kayak
Imo u need the magic touch of your own nemora and or tasi XD so get her from lab asap if not already
untold rivet
Golus, Estrilda level 121 M rank front row. Nemora Nemora Savues being L rank and level 120
I don't think I have Tasi
fickle kayak
@honest storm imo i should save shem for later and use nemora instead u can get a copy from lab ^^
untold rivet
No Tasi, I do have a nemora.
fickle kayak
U can use your nemora to charm the estrilda and then she can boost your saveas/belinda/silvina attack and charge to interrupt the nemora; you can time your silvina ult too to stop and or kill one of the nemora
loud osprey
Any suggestions?
untold rivet
Well, I am out for now, thanks for the help,
oblique phoenix
@loud osprey Brutus Shem, Tasi Lyca Arden/Nemora?
fickle kayak
@untold rivet have fun!^^
loud osprey
Yeah but formation
sly shadow
Any suggestions?
fickle kayak
@loud osprey i will first try lyca/brutus/tasi/nemora/shemira trying to charm ferael (some say charming isabella can also work but I’m doubtful this is as good) use crit to brutus + attack to shem to kill niru asap; and time tasi ult if u can to cancel shemira ult
@sly shadow u can try ira or nemora instead of belinda for extra 20% damage and extra hp and try to get silvina to blink to tasi; i will try to charm ogi and or ira if u can
sly shadow
I dont think I have anyone who can charm
fickle kayak
U also mainly need some good tank unfortunately ur ulmus will be destroyed; u can get nemora from lab coin at the worst
sly shadow
Yeah I think im stumped until I get nem
fickle kayak
Nem is really the best XD along with tasi u will use them so much imo 😍 and with lucius and or brutus + dps such as saveas shemira u will be set for a long time
thorny tendon
I need help
sly shadow
U have athalia already?
hoary fulcrum
as i was sent here:
thorny tendon
I got her, yeah
hoary fulcrum
what would you use?
thorny tendon
try using athalia instead of arden 🤷
hoary fulcrum
i just switched arden is as was recommended... and i advanced ... switched with her... 😛
thorny tendon
I mean, you don't have too many options in there
hoary fulcrum
server is new 😃
ember bane
Need line-up Mahler tower floor50
eager vault
Is this a good lightbearer setup?
visual quiver
My current lineup is belinda, rosa and nemora backline, skreg and estrilda frontline. Belinda is my carry so +19 level. What should I change (formation and levelwise) if I want sav in my team as a carry?
eager vault
@visual quiver I would say nemora for the time being until u got to let him go cos his cap is 160
eager vault
@limpid gust why the hell is thoran lvl1
Thoran is a decent tank in ur position
Replace hendrik with thoran
limpid gust
Is he good? I used him for a little bit then i replaced him with the 2 shield guy :)
eager vault
Yes he is good
But he won't be that good until like chapter13 or something
But u don't gotta worry about that now
Replace 2 shields guy with thoran
Also replace fire lady with bow lady
limpid gust
I will lose the faction bonus if i do :(
limpid gust
eager vault
Ur in such a good position by having brutus early game
I'm still praying for him
visual quiver
@eager vault if I take out nemora and put in sav then I have no heal and my tanks don't hold long enough for the backline skills
tulip portal
9-20 made me think I’m doing something wrong,any help pls? 😄
eager vault
@visual quiver its either that orrrrr u cab replace estrilda cos tbh estrilda isn't that great
visual quiver
yeah, but with whom?
estrilda at least has a buff for the team. the other "tanks" don't afaikk
eager vault
Hogan, Aztec warrior guy(forgot his name),
visual quiver
golus?
eager vault
Yes
My brain had a shutdown for a few seconds cos I'm too focused on what to do with my lineup
sly shadow
What's a good silvina counter?
tribal oasis
Tasi
sly shadow
Okay
tribal oasis
Any tips?
eager vault
get a weak mage and put it backline so silvina goes after it and then get saveas below or on top of it to finish her
It works for me but might not work for u
sly shadow
Tasi banishes the isabella tho so yeah
eager vault
Lol I came here for advice now I'm the one giving it
weary socket
Heelp
weary socket
Shouldnt be using any lvl 1 units 😂
limpid gust
I am not, but i can reset someone... 20 gems seems cheap :). Btw i just got purple shemira and i have a feeling she is good
limpid gust
I dont know what a, b s d mean
eager vault
S=op a=good b=decent c=underrated d=bad f= don't use
honest storm
This Kaz always reks my team
visual quiver
@eager vault that‘s my lineup now and I get destroyed lmao
pale kettle
@south herald @shell turret @fierce kayak thanks for the advice guys, I’m on my way to beating it!
fierce kayak
@pale kettle great. G luck buddy
upbeat moat
Any tips for this level
indigo jolt
@upbeat moat Try
Lyca
Brutus/Lucius
Nemora (charm on spider)
Shem
Tasi
robust magnet
Hey any advice?
craggy plaza
edgy surge
Anyway this lineup can work on this stage of LB tower?
tropic thistle
probably need the fawkes, he was clutch for me
bitter kernel
Absolutely need Fawkes against the Brutus team. Make sure you turn off auto casting and time his ult to mess them all up.
edgy surge
Shall I try with Elite fawkes or just dont bother till I get one mercenary?
dreamy mesa
Should I change this guy circled in red for someone in my lineup
sudden sparrow
Saveas is the best carry early game @dreamy mesa build him up to L+ and lvl 160
silent wraith
@plucky flint try this for 18-12, key is to charm estrilda and root grez
steel moat
Is this stage possible with my formation? I can get estrilda over 180 but i need 5k more purple cocaine hero essence
dreamy mesa
@sudden sparrow so do I switch him
sudden sparrow
Use him
silent wraith
@steel moat charm ogi with nemo, try my lineup below, u can use any brutus, just need to stall niru
sudden sparrow
He'll be your carry until you get Belinda or Shemira to Mythic lv.161+ @dreamy mesa
silent wraith
@steel moat here
still pilot
HELP with 11-20
steel moat
Ack my brutus isn't high tier but i'll try that, thanks!
dreamy mesa
K thanks
silent wraith
its ok mine died b4 he even ults, its just to stall
steel moat
Omg @silent wraith it worked!! 
How are you such a lineup god 
still pilot
Can someone help me now
silent wraith
@steel moat haha grats on ch18 completion
my lineup works because im extremely underpowered, so if you have higher levels you will beat it easily
sudden sparrow
@still pilot Scroll up a bit
steel moat
How about trying saveas in the frontline @still pilot something like this
Nemora
Saveas/Lucius
Belinda
Saveas/Lucius
Rosaline/Rowan
My hope is that nemora charms mirael so it takes some of the damage off of you
oak lance
Stuck on 9-16, any help and suggestions?
plucky flint
@silent wraith thanks man. Ended up beating it with my original formation. On to 18-20
hollow estuary
Any suggestions for lineup?
terse wyvern
still pilot
@steel moat I have tried that Lucius and Nemora doesn't have time to charm anyone cuz Miraela cuts her attacks
terse wyvern
Whou should I ascend, nara to mythic plus, grezhul or fareal it mythic?
still pilot
No one save them
terse wyvern
I have that niru to use
still pilot
Tell me witch half them u use
sudden sparrow
@terse wyvern None
still pilot
Who's better IRA or Seavas
sudden sparrow
Don't ever use Ascended tier heroes as Fodder @terse wyvern
terse wyvern
@sudden sparrow I have that niru to use though at leg plus
sudden sparrow
@still pilot Saveas
still pilot
IRA can wreck him easily with her ult or Glacial arrow
sudden sparrow
Depends on what do you need rn, a tank, support or something else
steel moat
@oak lance
Nemora
Belinda(??) not sure if she can offtank
Arden
Lucius
Lyca
You might need a heavier dps , try to get saveas to legendary so he will be effective
rancid sundial
still pilot
@oak lance Frontline Lucius and Rosalina Bacline on top get Fawkes in middle use Nemora and last use Belinda
rancid sundial
Help me please
still pilot
@rancid sundial level ur heroes ur lineup is good enough
rancid sundial
ok
sand rune
Jeezus, Shemira at 181 is a house.
rancid sundial
so i just gotta afk i guess
still pilot
Yup
raw trail
So recently ive been keeping this as my line up and i havent really had problems, but should i switch arden with seirus? Would it be better in the long run?
sudden sparrow
@raw trail Arden is not a frontliner bruh and Ogi succs as a Tank. Post a pic with all of your heroes
raw trail
@sudden sparrow i put arden there because he seemed the tankiest of the mages, i also didnt have seirus before
sudden sparrow
Saveas
Hendrick
Nemora
Warek(?
Arden
Reset Nara and Isabella. Then remove Hendrick from the crystal and upgrade him
grizzled galleon
Suggestions ?
safe niche
Hi I'm struggling on that event, voyage of wonders, I been trying to beat it for past 2 weeks, I did about 300 tries, not even joking, I still fail, is there a way to make it beateable?
sudden sparrow
Wait, maybe reset Nemora and upgrade Hendrick instead @raw trail
raw trail
And leave nemora on crystal instead?
safe niche
sudden sparrow
That way, when your top5 heroes pass the lv.100 limit the rest will do as well. And yes @raw trail
safe niche
I have almost 2x power points yet still die fast, did alot of formation change, still nothing
raw trail
Wait so reset nara nemora and isabella? Or just nemora?
sudden sparrow
Nara and Nemora @raw trail and put Nemora on the crystal
raw trail
Ok, will do, thanks
sly shadow
You cant use heroes you loan to other ppl right?
sudden sparrow
Only once on campaign, labyrinth and Voyage @sly shadow
sudden sparrow
Well it's yours, obviously you can
sly shadow
Oh wrong channel I asked in questions now but thx
sand rune
I’ve got an Ascended Shemira at 181, Mythic+ Brutus, and Wilder team at 160. Any reason to bring Brutus immediately to 181 now?
grizzled galleon
Any ideas ,pls
oak lance
@still pilot you’re a legend! Thanks for the help
still pilot
Np mate
south herald
@keen violet ur tanks r underlevel so no need to rush.... I have been stuck for longer trust me xd patient is key
keen violet
@south herald Appreciate the response :) been under leveled since 6-18 lol it's just now finally making me pay for it.
sly shadow
@south herald I did it and most of my stuff was underleveled
south herald
If ur team is very solid u can still beat it but in this case frontliners aren’t as leveled and shem isn’t really frontline until 161
@charred oracle try
Rosaline
Shemira
Belinda
Estrilda
Nara/fawkes
charred oracle
@south herald Thank you i'll give it a try
plucky flint
Feeling baffled by this. 18-23
south herald
@plucky flint I would say try nemora instead of arden mid and rng until the enemy nemora is charmed then that might work. Most wilder stage when u use shem as ur main carry requires rng so good luck!
covert condor
Still stuck on 12-32 even after getting shemira to 161 😦 any ideas?
plucky flint
@covert condor I’m a little surprised. That lineup should work. I would get arden to 141 and try him for nemora.
bitter temple
@covert condor sometimes the support cast also need level. On my alt I was stuck at 12-12 for a week until shemira hit 180 and overpowered the barrier. Then she got into chapter 14 lol.
sly shadow
This team relies on rng too much any suggestions?
humble egret
Does swapping Ulmus and Sav help? @sly shadow
humble egret
@sly shadow u could reset Nara and level Ira, that way you can surpass the lvl100 wall
sly shadow
Ascension level stops it
slow kiln
Still need help on 9-32. I don’t feel like posting a bunch pics so can I just get some comp ideas and I’ll tell you which heroes I don’t have ?
humble egret
@sly shadow no, your nara is E, shes holding your team back
sly shadow
I know I mean for those in the crystal
You should have sav overleveled not shemira yet @slow kiln
humble egret
Yeah, but crystal uses your top5 highest level, nara is 1 of your 5
And you cant level nara anymore so reset and level ira
sly shadow
Lol I still need 300 dust
It mostly the gb heroes that are fuckin me over so it should get easier after this chapter
humble egret
@sly shadow tasi arden also requires a lot of resetting so no rush
slow kiln
Those two graveborns and Arden’s cc hecking my team up
bright geyser
I'm stuuuuuuuck :(
LINEUP IS NOT WHAT I'VE BEEN USING JUST SHOW9NG ALL HEROES
sly shadow
@humble egret have any idea what to do on this?
I'm trying to get 120 on kings tower so I can summon an elite
humble egret
Just like before, is Sav at 1 any better? If not it's just reset until you pass
sly shadow
I think my team is too weak but want that damn summon
last granite
@bright geyser try this
Rosaline
Shemira
Arden/athalia if u got her
Lucius/brutus (lucius for bonus)
Fawkes
The plan is to stop ferael from cc-ing your team and to kill grezhul asap so the fight is down to 5v4
sly shadow
Man I hate being stumped is frustrating af
last granite
@slow kiln idk ur full roster but if you got them try this
Athalia/arden
Brutus/saveas
Saveas/ belinda (if she dps better than sav coz she's a burst hero and not dps)
Lucius
Rosaline/nemora/fawkes/
Try to get the faction bonus. If brutus ult he should've been able to kill niru
bright geyser
@last granite barely even does anything almost everyone dies in 10 seconds
fierce kayak
@bright geyser correct stage? G luck.
bright geyser
Yeah 15-40
fierce kayak
Ok.. give it some tries. Hope it works for u.
bright geyser
I'll try, my Nemora and Arden are only E+ though sooo
Also about 20 under your level at the time lol
fierce kayak
@bright geyser o.. cos my team power has always being already low vs others
pale kettle
Should I do Lyca or Ulmus... Or wait?
untold nacelle
Help needed please
south herald
@pale kettle Ulmus is a late game character so maybe Lyca but dont fodder and A tier heroes pls xd
@untold nacelle put whoever tanks better in front of vedan with Saveas behind them
vocal sandal
Any suggestions to best this stage?
sudden sparrow
Floor 186 sure it's fuckin annoying, plz send nud- help 
That's the formation that's brought me closer to victory but should I do something like leveling Up Belinda so Lyca and the rest get to 161+?
fierce kayak
@vocal sandal Sav always behind Brutus to benefit his roar. Try
Nemora
Eziz or other tank
Rosaline/belinda
Brutus
Sav
tawny glacier
what Grave born hero should I get to legendary, I already have Shemira Mythic
sly shadow
Suggestions?
sudden sparrow
@tawny glacier probably Grezhul, then Thoran
vocal sandal
Ok thanks @fierce kayak ill try it
tawny glacier
okay thx
sudden sparrow
@sly shadow Too underleveled m8 sorry, I me myself can't do nothing for now
sly shadow
K lol
pale rover
@sly shadow It's levels, ascensions, and lack of viable tanks sadly. Might need to pull and level a bit more
sly shadow
Surprised I even got there at all
pale rover
@sly shadow That just means you're able to build workable teams considering everything! It's a good thing. Just pull and level more. 
sly shadow
Yeah I went into hard portal on 3rd floor which was a dumb move cuz I haven't finished a labyrinth properly in 2 weeks lmao
nimble sentinel
Any advice?
ember bane
19-31 need advice plz ty @fierce kayak
vestal island
Best team to build? Can get either shimera or nemora from lab and also free belinda soon
rustic nacelle
Am I right in holding off on ascensions here and just waiting until I can make Lyca or Nemora Mythic? Or should I say fuck it and just ascend someone else?
Am I right in holding off on ascensions here and just waiting until I can make Lyca or Nemora Mythic? Or should I say fuck it and just ascend someone else? (Wrong picture before)
fierce kayak
@vestal island lack of tank imo. For now try
Sav
Hogan
Rosaline
Tank? (Maybe Shemira for now)
Raine (for now)
Go for Shemira in lab. 1st month you should be able to buy 2 heroes. So can get Shem first then nemora.
vestal island
ok ty
fierce kayak
. @rustic nacelle you are right to hold off. Its the key to the game.
I would focus on tasi lyca nemora for Wilders first.
Even from L+ and above. I hold on too unless I have 4 copies of them to make sure they can go White.
Exceptions are maybe Shemira as she is carry, or maybe Brutus since he is OP, need to break level cap, or I go for shop heroes like nemora.
But waiting and plan carefully is a very good move.
elfin scroll
Who should I ascend to legendary out of nara bedan or Isabella?
fierce kayak
@elfin scroll
- focus on Shemira to M+ before moving to other GB
- if only to L, I suggest wait. Better to ascend only if goes L+ right away.
elfin scroll
@fierce kayak well any tips for 15-11? Numisu just makes too many totems for my lineup to focus correctly and mehira just ults backwards and shes my 1 trick for most levels cus she will charm the entire enemy team
slow kiln
What should I do this ? Stuck on 9-38 and probably 9-40
Enemy Team:
Silvina
Ogi
Isabella
Vedan
Arden
fierce kayak
@elfin scroll you need disables buddy. Can't go pure dmg higher chapters we go.
You need Arden 141.
Rosaline is a good addition too. U can try her.
thick saddle
Tips? Suggestions? dunno if I should be trying to use Lucius somewhere here, and Arden I've been swapping in and out with nemora
humble skiff
@thick saddle level saveas to 160
inner sparrow
Need help please
oak lance
Also stuck on 9-20
humble skiff
@inner sparrow focus levels on saveas to the max you can go also have to kill vaden with sav first
@oak lance ascend saveas asap and max levels on him
inner sparrow
@oak lance our 9-20s are diffierent
hollow estuary
Any suggestions??
sour fjord
Need help am stuck 🥺🥺
inner sparrow
So put sav in front of vaden @humble skiff
oak lance
@inner sparrow oops posted wrong photo
trail gate
Wilder tower 50. Any advice? What team comps have succeeded?
tender ermine
I legit don’t know what lineup to use/focus on. Just rolled mehira and Shemira and I’ve read online they are very solid pieces. However I cannot seem to find an optimal lineup that is balanced and has union buffs.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
vestal island
@fierce kayak sry to disturb but could I ask is nara not a gd tank?
humble skiff
@tender ermine early game (pre-160) is all about overleveling and ascrnding saveas and bringing arden to 141
That should get you to ch 13
hollow estuary
Stuck on 9-28
tender ermine
@humble skiff so basically don’t change my lineup as is? I know Saveas is supposed to carry to 160 but I just heard that shemira can legit solo carry so I thought I would try to make a lineup around her
humble skiff
@tender ermine shemira only solo carries at 161+
The rest of your lineup outside of sav should be focused on supporting sav
lilac lotus
I can’t ascend my Mehira and I know she’s really rare. But enemies are getting a lot tougher. Would putting her on the resonating crystal push her past 100 just without her perks? Or will she forever be capped there until I can ascend her
south herald
@hollow estuary the screenshot of the stage pls
hollow estuary
humble skiff
@lilac lotus she will break her lvl cap afaik, just keep raising your 5 highest ascended heroes
south herald
@lilac lotus crystal her and she can pass her cap
tender ermine
@humble skiff ok ty for your help
lilac lotus
Thank you all 😭😭 I was so upset 😂😂
south herald
@hollow estuary try
Saveas
Hogan
Belinda
Ogi
Nemora
hollow estuary
It worked thank you so much! Is this a better lineup than using all my legendaries? @south herald
south herald
@hollow estuary if u use all ur legendaries u dont have actual tanks xd
hollow estuary
Ohhhh true ahaha
onyx basin
19-20 is the new 9-20 help
south herald
@onyx basin iirc thats the correct lineup but it require incredible luck to beat... If nem charms ferael then that might be good
onyx basin
Nem never charms fer @south herald always grezh or somebody else...
south herald
Thats just ur luck lol its definitely possible @onyx basin
onyx basin
So do i keep repeating with that line
desert basin
Keep retrying for that good RNG
south herald
^ thats the key to every other stage
noble fog
stuck at 20-26
desert basin
You won't always be able to first time clear every stage with that lineup, so that's where the retry comes into play 😃
@noble fog I wouldn't have Tasi front lining tbh
onyx basin
Niru is total imba
south herald
@noble fog use
Nem
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
desert basin
^ Agreed
If that doesn't work for some reason, keep retrying and maybe eventually rotate Shem/Brutus up and down
noble fog
@south herald almost worked. was down to Shem and Vedan.
noble fog
That freaking Silvina keeps on one shotting Nem
desert basin
Keep retrying for the crits to disappear in my opinion
south herald
@noble fog oh ye i forgot... Make ur tasi have a lower defense than mem
Tasi can blink away if shes not one shot
noble fog
wth ! I won! Thanks!!!!
south herald
Ez clap
inner sparrow
Any ops?
desert basin
@inner sparrow Did you try switching Lyca and Saveas and having Arden in the middle with Lyca at the bottom?
fierce kayak
@vestal island hi, I don't use nara but I don't think we use her as a tank. She can counter some tanks like brutus or grap healers.
vestal island
Ah ic thank you cuz was taking a look at guides and she was classified as a tank. Thx for the advice @fierce kayak
south herald
@inner sparrow u have underlevel tanks and that hurts ur team quite a lot so imo just afk a bit
zenith finch
Nara works great against silvina and any tanks that have self res or invulnurable abilities
fierce kayak
@vestal island ya.. just like Estrilda But she isn't really a true tank too.
But nara is a good hero.
small acorn
@inner sparrow you have to kill vaden before he ults
abstract shuttle
Stuck on 18-36 any advice will be appreciated
south herald
@abstract shuttle nem instead of tasi so nem can charm nem
foggy crane
Brutus or shem to 221, or lyca or fawkes to 201?
south herald
@foggy crane i would personally go for shem
small acorn
@foggy cranei would shem
foggy crane
Im basically sitting here waiting for dust lol i have way over 10 million exp
small acorn
@abstract shuttleswap shem and brutus position. Otherwise ogi will continue to 1shot your arden
foggy crane
Thoughts @small acorn ?
I just want to hit chp 21 already lmao. On 20-40 something
south herald
@foggy crane ur heroes at this lvl is def capable to chap 21 the comp should be
Nem
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
Nem should charm ferael for the best result
small acorn
@foggy cranenem needs to charm fereal
foggy crane
I don't have a single tasi lol
foggy crane
How do i send videos?
small acorn
@foggy crane can you kill vaden before he ults?
foggy crane
small acorn
Need nem to charm fereal 1 in 3 or something
foggy crane
Is it possible though? I get murked so fast and she can't reach farael
foggy crane
Huh you were right... I'll be
formal bronze
Should I waste diamonds to rearrange my heroes levels?
small acorn
@foggy cranewhen fereal haunts his own team its gg
formal bronze
Wasn’t sure if I should switch Shem and Belinda, since Belinda is asc
south herald
@formal bronze its not a waste so get shem 180 instead of belinda
small acorn
@formal bronzei would, reset to 160 and overlevel shem
foggy crane
You guys think i have enough on board to hit 21 tonight?
formal bronze
Thanks y’all :). I’ll drop my Belinda in that case, appreciate it
foggy crane
Yee, currently on 20-49
south herald
chap 20 have 60 stages @small acorn
foggy crane
Always more fucking wilders lmao. 20-52
frigid dagger
@foggy crane not same stage but same enemies
abstract shuttle
Ok I’m on 18-40 now. Trying to clear before bed
foggy crane
What stage?
abstract shuttle
18-40
foggy crane
@frigid dagger who did you have tank
frigid dagger
@foggy crane top down lyca brutus top down shemira arden nemora u can also try top down shemira brutus top down arden lyca nemora
foggy crane
@frigid daggerkaz rips through shemira as foes ulmus
frigid dagger
@foggy crane just try untill rng make u win, doesnt matter what of that comps u use
But better try the second one, that's what I use for 20-52
ember bane
@south herald need advice 19-36 ty
fierce kayak
@abstract shuttle try this. It works for me.
small acorn
@foggy cranethis is comp i used to beat 20-60 if it helps
abstract shuttle
@fierce kayak thanks I’ll try 😁
small acorn
Looks like comp changed as well
pale kettle
Guys, I need help. Been stuck on a stage for almost an entire week.
This is the stage + my team:
unborn bramble
what stage is it
pale kettle
9-32
zinc wren
Any advice for 20-28?
grand dragon
Try Lucius instead of Brutus and switch Shem with Lyca @zinc wren
small acorn
@zinc wren keep same comp, you just need nem to charm enemy vurk so he poisons estrilda
foggy crane
Victory @small acorn
pale kettle
I've been mega unlucky with tavern + this event. I'm on my way to the 10th time I waste 2700 diamonds on a pack of 6+ greens and rest of blues.
small acorn
@foggy cranenice!! Good luck on the shop rolls for myth+ mats
unborn bramble
yeah i’ve had pretty shitty luck too. can’t do anything about it lol
pale kettle
I'll just wait until the game decides to feed me some saveas fodder or legendary gear on guild shop and hope that's enough
what should i do lol
abstract shuttle
Any advice for 18-40 nothing is working for 3 seconds
small acorn
@zinc wren sorry, put shem at pos1 and put lyca at pos5 and tasi at pos 4
feral goblet
I have enough dust to evolve one Hero to 141. Should I evolve Brutus or Arden?
unborn bramble
i’d say brut, he gets 7 sec immunity
small acorn
@feral goblet brutus
frigid dagger
@zinc wren I think I used top down shemira brutus top down arden lyca tasi for that one
feral goblet
Okay will do
small acorn
@abstract shuttle from pos 1-5 brutus, shem, lyca, nem, tasi
daring matrix
I'd say Arden though he got 3 roots
small acorn
@abstract shuttle nem needs to charm enemy arden before he roots, so he roots his own team.
@daring matrix @feral goblet b9th are good, but 7 second brutus will help heaps to delay for shem ult
daring matrix
Oh I see. I don't have Brutus so I don't know lol
foggy crane
@small acorn are they rare? Im at like 32k coins atm so perfect timing.
unborn bramble
keep running out of time.. not really sure what to do
small acorn
Make sure you only use it on faction marked gear which you use. Such as GB mage wep for shem. Dont use on something bad like Celest mark mage wep. Because you cant get them back once used.
Yes its random appearence, it appears in 1 of your 2 mythic gear slots in guild shop. But its pulled from the same pool as normal mythic gear so it doesnt have a exclusive slot in shop. So may pop up once every 4 or 5 days
pale rover
@unborn bramble Running out of time means a potential lack of dps. Have you tried Saveas instead of Rowan?
small acorn
@unborn bramble need to pump saveas, he will chop them down in time
unborn bramble
heroes die without rowan healing
foggy crane
@small acorn i know what im using it on first.
small acorn
@unborn brambleon average saveas will out dps fawkes and belinda by huge amounts. Just need to overlevel saveas and put him behind brutus
unborn bramble
ah, i just got it with my setup with 30 sec to spare.. lol thanks tho guys
small acorn
@foggy crane jealous of your GB head peice
fierce kayak
@unborn bramble you can either
- level Sav from now onwards
- reset others or anyone to 120, Sav level to 160
- Try not to ascend heroes to only L. Only L+ if they can go L+ right away.
Try
Sav (160)
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
languid sapphire
Who’s better to ascend from L+ > A? Lyca or Nemora?
tawny jewel
Guys help me with this stage
ember bane
@clear saddle 19-36 tasi dies Silvana 1st strike and Shemira also not lasting for too long
clear saddle
i used athalia, lemme try find screenshot
oak lance
Stuck on this 9-20
frigid dagger
Any suggestion?
plucky flint
I feel like everything I’m trying is hopeless. Wasn’t expecting a wall here (18-23).
cinder crag
Any ideas?
indigo jolt
@plucky flint
plucky flint
@indigo jolt thanks. That seems like it has some promise. Just need to take out that damn ira before she ults
indigo jolt
@plucky flint I think i may of manual timed tasi ult, so that it cancels ira ult. Less rng then it doing it on auto. May of been a different stage.
plucky flint
That sounds right.
edgy surge
Suggestions on 19 38? Saw a video with same comp and lvls but my arden cant root at all
indigo jolt
@edgy surge Fairly sure same team as 19-8, wil check as just passed that.
If arden still cant root give him your best boots.
clear saddle
you can either use good boots on arden or nemora. good boots on nemora allows you to charm the arden who will then root his own team
pale kettle
Can only kill 2 with luck
grand dragon
@runic cargo if you have to use thane no
runic cargo
Alright, thane just feels super useless he always dies first
pale rover
@pale kettle Overlevel your Shemira and pick either Lucius or Brutus to place in front, backline is Arden/Tasi Lyca and Nemora. Those are 5 Graveborn, don't use Lightbearer units against them.
pale kettle
@pale rover wilders are useless here, silvina messes the formation up, tried all 4 of them and Brutus doesn't help either, the biggest problem with them is energy gain for shemira is too low and no enemies die
pale rover
@pale kettle Wilders are not useless there, as Wilders are strong against Graveborn. Use one as bait for Silvina, most likely Lyca because she has the lowest ascension and the highest possible chance to dodge so she might live longer. It's completely RNG, but if you also level them all up a bit more you have a better chance. Brutus is a last resort as he has his few second invuln at least but at L he's not very good, Lucius will take more damage from them overall.
pale kettle
I can't use Lyca as a silvina bait because there are mages in my team. Tried lowering tasis armor so that silv jumps on her and she can make it out alive in the end with wilders shemira only gets to use 1 ult instead of 3 with lb and vedan clears my Wilder backline
I had Arden root vedan twice even that wasn't enough
pale rover
@pale kettle That stage is tough, honestly. That probably means you need to level Shemira up just a little bit more, how's her gear?
pale kettle
Everything l except m boots
pale rover
@pale kettle Might be the problem. Weapon at M makes a huge difference, best option is to try and level your team first and then try again. You're not super underlevelled but if gear is a bit under maybe it could help balance the stakes more.
pale kettle
I guess i got to wait until shemira is 170+
tawny jewel
This is the best i could come up with
plucky flint
@indigo jolt I took it down. Thanks again. Just auto’d over and over and let rng do its thing
edgy surge
@pale rover do u think this is doable? Gave nemora arden best boots I could and gave shemira Grace to survive while i Rng for charm or root but shemira dies everytime
pale rover
@edgy surge I believe I attempted that my two fronts were 200 and back was at 180 already, but then again I'm lazy with attempts
Nemora top to charm the Arden
solemn gull
Any help?
pale kettle
Shouldn't Lyca front line and nemora charm Arden
plucky flint
@pale kettle wilders aren’t useless on that stage but you’re definitely under powered. I think maybe not much to do but afk and try again later
pale rover
Yeah Lyca front would also help in place of Shemira. You could put her behind Brutus
pale kettle
They are useless comparing to my lb ATM, although using Fawkes not athalia who gets rid of the enemy shemira
Rowan's potions help Lucius survive long enough to ulty, and then Rosa gets to ult as well, with a little luck shemira can ult x3 with lb, one at best with wilders
solemn gull
@edgy surge
Tasi
Lyca
Nem
Bruts
Shem
pale kettle
Silvina jumps on Rowan who can tank her for quite a while as well
plucky flint
@pale kettle I beat that with Shem + 4 wilders, no Brutus. They hit so hard and fast that the wilder strat is to max your cc, lock them up, and quickly get Shem to ult with tasi lock. Takes a lot of rng luck though, many attempts
edgy surge
Wait do I keep arden with nemora top or no @pale rover
pale kettle
I'll try
plucky flint
@pale kettle what stage number is that again?
edgy surge
@solemn gull what artifact should that lineup have?
tawny jewel
Any help?
pale rover
@solemn gull
Nemora
Grezhul
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
plucky flint
@pale kettle yeah, I think I actually switched to 4 wilders for 14-40, not 14-34. Conventional wilder line up would be
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
tasi
And auto restart if tasi dies before ult
pale rover
@edgy surge
Tasi (call)
Brutus (blade)
Lyca
Shemira (eye)
Nemora (grace)
pale kettle
Vedan ults before tasi and kills all the wilders, if I put Regen relic on tasi then shemiras ult is delayed too much already tried
Maybe if I get lucky and shemiras ult crits on everyone she can make it 🤔
plucky flint
You should be able to lock vedan with Arden so he can’t ult before tasi. Put call on tasi, eye/blade on Shem
pale kettle
No blade yet, I'll put eye
oak lance
Stuck on 9-20, any help?
pale kettle
Looks doable, but going to need many restarts
hasty ingot
Stuck on 8-32 anyone help please?
edgy surge
@pale rover shemira dies too fast from ogi cc and ira bleed
pale kettle
@plucky flint the lb seem to have better chances
eager vault
Is this a good lightbeares team?
oak lance
Anyone help? A bit above^
broken egret
Any ideas here? Or am I just stuck till I get shem to M and can finally pass the level 160 cap
frosty cypress
Need help with Soren and Wrizz lineups. I can make a L+ Baden since I've heard he's good for them.
robust magnet
Any advice?
pseudo bear
@frosty cypress For Wrizz, try Lucius, Shem, Raine , Estrilda, Rosaline ( Position 1-5 ). With L+ baden, I guess you could swap Raine or Estrilda out ( try to experiment ). For Soren, pretty much the same comp but put call on Lucius for soren. Put blade on Baden if you decide to ascend him for both
@eager vault Put Hogan as a first tank, lucius as second tank. Then swap raine swap of rosaline. I recommend you try other factions or mix as well
oak lance
Left is Floor 119 and Right is 9-20, any help on lineup and advice? Also doing horrible in soren only doing 500k damage any advice?
blissful comet
lime hawk
Stuck on 7-32 not sure who should be my core thinking sav, brutus, lucius, x,x on day4 if it helps
pale kettle
16-40.. .. Any tips on how to beat that.. Hole team dies in 1 shot😢
oak lance
Left [Floor 119] & Right is [9-20], any advice? Also what should i use against soren?
pale kettle
@lime hawkid swop out one of your tanks for shemira.. Maby thoran?
@oak lancenot sure if its the right team to use but thats the team i use
oak lance
Sadly i only have shemira from ur team
pseudo bear
@oak lance try Lucius Savaes belinda Rosaline and Nem for Soren. Baden is not bad for Wrizz and Soren as well. So consider putting him in Crystal
oak lance
@pseudo bear thank you for the advice, any suggestions for what to use against 9-20 and floor 119? If not it’s fine!
pale kettle
@oak lanceuse what you have.. Swop them out after each run.. Take out the least damage player for another and see what happens
fossil cipher
I'm really early to the game so i'm missing quite a few key units i saw in other guides/lineups. Could someone help me because i'm kinda stuck with really slow progression atm and i'm not entirely sure why.
My formation looks like that, in case that's the issue
stark lotus
@fossil cipher You are Level 29 and have only 18 Heroes. What did you do with your diamonds?
pseudo bear
@oak lance for tower I guess you could try ( position 1-5) Lucius lyca nem Belinda arden. For 9-20 try lyca lucius, arden nem and belinda?
@pale kettle Try position 1-5. Shem Lyca Nem tasi arden?
fossil cipher
I always upgrade my heroes as soon as i can. In the building where you can merge heroes
Is that a bad idea?
pale kettle
@pseudo bearmy shen at 180 dies in 2 hits😂😂😂
stark lotus
@fossil cipher No is ok. But always use your diamonds for hero summons. Nothing else. Regarding your lineup. Put Rowan in the crystal and use him instead of shemira
pale kettle
No hero lives longer that 3 sec😂😂😂
stark lotus
And as an additional hint. Don’t ascend heroes to legendary only you can. Only if you have enough doubles to bring it also to leg+ or higher.
pseudo bear
@pale kettle may be Lyca Brutus Nem tais Shem?
fossil cipher
Alright, i'll give it a shot with rowan. Is the formation alright? Also, thanks a lot @stark lotus !
And i only buy heroes with diamonds but i got some shitty luck and got a whole lot of commons
versed canopy
Hi, could use fresh ideas for this level (16-12)
stark lotus
Shemira and Brutus Front and arden instead ob Athalia
versed canopy
Shemira can't tank long enough for her to do anything relevant, I've just switched to athalia to try a bit otherwise arden is already here, even with all those cc's I just can't seem to put anyone belon 10% with that blue shield blocking everything
fossil cipher
Holy shit
Thanks @stark lotus
Absolutely melting through the levels
pale kettle
@pseudo bearnope tryed that already.. Thanx anyway.. Looks like ill have to find another game to play for the next month
versed canopy
Only got a mythic mauler staff on her didnt find anything else
plush gate
Always ending up with the Vendan and Niru left, any help for 10-20?
indigo jolt
@edgy surge I had chalice on shem, for the extra survivability when facing Kaz.
south herald
@plush gate try
Eironn
Brutus
Belinda
Estrilda
Athalia
plush gate
Took 6 or 7 tries but it worked! Thank you @south herald
tired agate
This one’s hard, need help 😦
grand dragon
Help pls
vital leaf
Hey guys im stuck :S any tips?
rustic field
In stuck t.t any team suggestions?
pseudo bear
@vital leaf Try this from position 1-5. Brutus Shem lyca nem tasi
sly shadow
Dont frontline tasi everyone tells me that
vital leaf
My tasi is only epic, sylvina is 1 hitting her
pseudo bear
@vital leaf Your old comp but swap nem and arden. Make sure arden def is lower than nem. Also it’s important for nem to charm Ferael
sly shadow
I managed to do floor 119 with this anyone got a good comp for it? Dont say underleveled cause that happened last time and I did it
south herald
@sly shadow ur team and tank r underlevel and saveas cant really solo carry when theres another saveas and nem so i think u should afk for now
south herald
Ulmus is top tier late game tank early game hes ok
burnt knot
20-60, any advice?
south herald
@burnt knot nem bot instead of tasi then rng it out. If nem charms arden ur gud
It took me like 100 tries today to beat it but my crystal was 180
jagged gazelle
Stuck at 8-20, am I underleveled? Light is not ideal against grave, so I could swap in tasi and arden but then I'd also need a wilder or mauler tank. I still have a free spot in the crystal... any ideas?
south herald
@jagged gazelle try
Belinda
Hogan
Rosaline
Brutus
Saveas
burnt knot
@south herald got it on the fourth try with that, you rock thanks!
cloud ermine
Stuck on 13-40 literally went through whole chapter 13 with this lineup just moving eironn on different levels any help?
south herald
@cloud ermine try
Saveas
Lucius
Rosaline
Warek
Belinda
jagged gazelle
Doesn't work unfortunately, cant deal with vedan and niru.... Might be worth noting that rosa follows hogan. I tried a bunch of different formations with the same 5 already :/ @south herald
south herald
@jagged gazelle u can focus on getting Saveas super stacked at the moment I guess. Saveas is the best early game carry and theres no need to rush stage being stuck is normal
drifting root
Any idea besides leveling? 😰
south herald
@jagged gazelle u can try arden instead of belinda that might help a little
@drifting root u lack real frontliners and ur team should be around 121 imo so still leveling or getting frontliners
drifting root
Yeah everything besides Saveas and Nemora gets melted :(
And no dust to go beyond 120
south herald
Prioritize on getting a solid frontline to progress easily
cloud ermine
@south herald beat 13-40 like this also if anyone wants to know if ur stuck on this level 😃
south herald
Gratz
cloud ermine
Ty ty
covert condor
Stuck on 14-12 even with having such high hero levels, have tried so many combos with shemira
south herald
@covert condor stage pic pls
jagged gazelle
No luck so far, I guess I just have to afk for a while... thanks anyways! @south herald
covert condor
south herald
@covert condor focus on maxing shem. The general meta comp relies on overlevel shem. On silvina stage make sure tasi has the lowest defense and put her behind brutus
I would say use Lyca instead of tasi tho
pseudo bear
@south herald How do you deal when tasi get one shotted? You use nem as bait instead?
golden spade
Haaaaaaalp.
Warek is like my damn kryptonite right now lol. 😦
south herald
@pseudo bear let her die or use arden
tired agate
any advice on this one?
south herald
@golden spade ur extremely underlevel i think because at chap 20 my crystal is 180
golden spade
@south herald hell yeah I am but I’m still making it work. 😜
south herald
@tired agate use
Nem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shem
And spam for rng
@golden spade it wont work much longer i suggest u start camping for a bit... The minimum to beat chap 20 is 220 shem 200brutus 180 crystal afaik
tired agate
Ok thx, also which relic on shemira?
It worked in 5 tries thanks!
south herald
@tired agate i always go blade but its just i like her with high attack xd
pseudo bear
@tired agate I like to put eye on her and blade on Brutus but it is just preference
golden spade
@south herald says you! Just passed the level lol. YouTube is wonderful.
tired agate
Oh I had dura’s call on her actually
mystic hare
When I make a lineup, what should the lineup consist of? Should the frontline be 2 tanks? Should I only have 1 healer? How many dps are good?
south herald
@mystic hare it usually goes 2 front 1 dps 2 support but if u have an overlevel shem she can tank very well so its 2 tank 1 dps 3 support
mystic hare
thats 6 isnt it?
pseudo bear
@mystic hare it really depends on the roster you have and the stages you are facing. Crowd control effects are really strong in this game. So may be you could put a two to three of those in (arden,tasi, fawkes ) ( nem kinda count as part cc ). Then you have your carry which is usually Shemira or Savaes. One of them will do just fine. Then you have your tanks, I think two is a good amount unless your carry can tank front then you can use one tank. I guess lastly you have support character which you could slot in if your cc character is lacking I guess
south herald
I typoed
mystic hare
I have just had a lot of trouble finding tanks
south herald
If ur cc is high ur tank doesnt have to be as good but ye tank is a very important aspect of a team
Some heroes can do high damage and tank like shemira above 161
mystic hare
I have a legendary Thoran but im never sure what the other tank slot should be? And for the backline i have Nemora, Belinda, Fawkes, Numisu, Lyca and an elite+ Tasi (the rest are legendary except legendary+ nemora)
pseudo bear
@mystic hare could you upload your roster ss?
south herald
Gorvo is great tank insane cc so hes very good. Grezhul is insane mid-late and i heard centaur guy is decent early game
unborn bramble
11-36. nothin seems to work
pseudo bear
@mystic hare Also I suggest you start building shem soon cuz she is a good carry after 161
south herald
@unborn bramble first of all Saveas should be 141 and maxed asap try
Belinda
Lucius
Rosaline
Brutus
Saveas
unborn bramble
had saveas at 141, switched for belinda since there was a lot of mauler and her splash was coming in clutch. and that doesn’t work
ivory mauve
Any help with a line up here would be much appreciated been stuck for over 24 hours now... 16-40
south herald
@ivory mauve try something like
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Keep in mind that being stuck is only normal and it happens to everyone... 24 hours isnt that long and these wilder stage requires a lot of rng
Good luck!
pale kettle
How do I get these
south herald
Weekly quest
ivory mauve
@south herald Thank you that worked, I tried having Arden in before but only being e+ he was instantly dying
south herald
@ivory mauve ur welcome xd
carmine vapor
I can never pass either stage, my team does practically no damage, need help
Sorry for the spam, but these are my relics
pseudo bear
@carmine vapor have you try swap silvina out for lyca?
carmine vapor
no I have not
pseudo bear
@carmine vapor how did it go?
carmine vapor
team got annihilated for both, tried three times each
pseudo bear
Okay I think it would be best if you reset the voyage and try again imo. Try to aim for Firebringer and Icebringer. Those two are pretty important to finish it
pseudo bear
@carmine vapor Yeah both fire/ice and sun/moon is pretty great but I still think it is doable by only fire/ice. At least that’s how I do it
carmine vapor
@pseudo bear thanks again for the help!
pseudo bear
@carmine vapor no problem!
pale kettle
should i buy silvina in order to ascend shemira to legendary maybe i’ll pass this level this way or it’s a bad idea?
quick moth
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/609760704630751282/my_comp.jpg , any help to beat 9-20?
pseudo bear
@pale kettle don’t. Trust me I know the temptation since I have done it and regret it. Just wait a bit and you might get a silvina from friendship summon or daily scrolls
pale kettle
yeah i wasn’t sure if it’s a mistake since i’ll be wasting labyrinth tokens for it
ty
torpid cape
16-20 I’ve been stuck on this for days, any ideas? I’ve tried full wilder, but it’s just too weak to even last a few seconds
half idol
lapis sand
quick moth
any ideas to beat 9-20?
grizzled yew
@quick moth lucius and hogan front, shemira, belinda and rosaline
inner vector
HELP ME PLS SOMEONE CANT BEAT THIS FUCKING LVL FOR 3+ DAYS
ember bane
@south herald Dismal Descent need advice plz ty
magic jetty
wet warren
Tips ?
crisp thorn
dark current
Help please 🙏
pale kettle
literally stuck. Tried using athalia to disable arden, rosaline to nuff my shemira... nothing works.any advise?
sly sparrow
Need help with 12-4 please
dark current
That's what i was going to say... Well I don't know @pale kettle
pale kettle
feels like i simply lack dmg.. but I've seen ppl with similar teams than me.. and they're in chapter 21-40 >.>
while this is 20-36
dark current
Did you tried with fawkes instead of lucius and you put shemira to the front line?
wraith ledge
What the hell can i do in the voyage. This team won't die No matter what
unreal inlet
Belinda or saveas for carry stage 9-30
midnight crag
So I'm at 22-8, think I've tried every possible formation I could think, any advice for this?
rustic field
@pseudo bear Ty so much?! Your tip helped
pseudo bear
@rustic field umm yeah sure no problem!
sleek portal
Need help. 20-12. Thanks.
plush jackal
Im kinda stuck in a place i believe i can surpass easily, help me please,
Chapter 13-24
All equips are legendary, legendary + and 1 mythic armor for agility
indigo jolt
@dark current Need nemora mid to charm farael, another bait mage behind brutus.
@wet warren Tasi banishes fareal i belive?
If so drop for nemora, need to charm fareal.
@ember bane Drop brutus for Nemora.
Nem
Shem
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Will need to retry till sav is charmed, and youll have to hope rng works out with shem ult heals. Easier if you have the % regen increase relic.
@inner vector Switch Nemora and Belinda, and lucius and estrilda positions if estrilda can survive till sav is charmed.
inner vector
@indigo jolt I passed it
but thank you
indigo jolt
np
crisp thorn
pseudo bear
@crisp thorn if you have arden, try position 1-5, Brutus Shem Lyca tasi and arden
boreal bridge
cloud wadi
Any tips?
tiny spoke
any suggests, i’ve been stuck for days now
lapis sand
inner sparrow
Ops??
indigo jolt
@lapis sand Who does tasi banish?
lapis sand
Most of the time nobody @indigo jolt
indigo jolt
@lapis sand
Try
Arden
Shem
Tasi
Brutus
Nem
Make nem lowest defence, and report back how it goes. As i assume your tasi doesnt survive silv jumps then.
lapis sand
@indigo jolt it worked tysm!
ember bane
@indigo jolt main issue is Wardk as he block sleep and kills Shemira easily
indigo jolt
@ember bane What relics have you taken, and which boss fights do you have left? i left this till the last possible before the final teleport spot.
Shem was able to tank it for me at 190 m+, so probably relic choices.
If it doesnt work, can try brutus shem front instead. Drop arden as well, maybe and move lyca back.
grim vessel
steep cape
Do I stand a chance with any lineup?
@grim vessel get Arden in resonator and build saveas ASAP
@ember bane how the hell do you have 1.5 mill power with your team at 161 and how the hell did you get to like ch 22? Lol share your ways with me master Araxis
indigo jolt
@steep cape Its Pot Dismal Descent..
grim vessel
@steep cape I'm trying to build Saveas couldn't get a Elite+ Mauler to get Saveas Legendary+
steep cape
@narrow thicket ah okay @indigo jolt what do you mean?
indigo jolt
Its from the Peaks of Time, so the power is from all the relics boosting him.
grim vessel
@steep cape like look at this my saveas is ready to be L+ but I just need 1 more mauler
quick moth
having a hard time on 9-38 any ideas?
grim vessel
@steep cape and Arden in what place?
steep cape
@indigo jolt ah okay lol I was wondering what the deal was. @grim vessel I’d run Brutus sav Arden nemora and wither athalia or tasi
Athalia vs mirael Brutus vs es sav vs golus then nemora across from Angelo and Arden in last spot
indigo jolt
@steep cape My only suggestion would be to try
Nem/Arden
Brutus
Lyca/Athalia
Kaz
Tasi
knotty bane
What's up people, i have gotten to the dreaded 9-20, and these are my current heroes. All help is very appreciated since I'm very lost about what to do atm
grim vessel
@steep cape didnt work
proper siren
Hey there, this is where Im stuck, can anyone help me with a good comp?
tacit kayak
any ideas?
tepid current
How can I beat this?
slate mason
royal timber
I figured out what to do. Lightbringer is strong against Maulers, so I used 3 Lightbringers and 2 Maulers to beat 5-16
ashen mantle
And i just used saveas + 4 others of same faction for dmg boost :)
slate mason
@ashen mantle so just throw in fucking warek or some shit here
ashen mantle
@slate mason u can try using nemora to charm his saveas :)
ember bane
@indigo jolt This is my last battle then gonna final teleport
ashen mantle
@slate mason try
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Saveas
Nemora
slate mason
hope for charm on saveas?
ashen mantle
Yeah
steep cape
@grim vessel how bad?
tepid current
I've tried that same comp many times on 13-12. Does not work for me lol
ashen mantle
If that doesnt work swap arden and lyca and hope golus and vurk gets rooted
steep cape
Sav might not be high enough yet to run tank spot @covert fern
slate mason
just don't have the firepower, nothing dies lol
ashen mantle
XD
slate mason
brutus golus is just tanky as fuck
ashen mantle
Yeah ik the problems xD
tepid current
Yep I have the same issue lol. My team can't kill shit
ashen mantle
@slate mason u can try 1-5; brutus,kaz,arden,saveas,nemora :) and hope for dodges xD
@slate mason note that i've used thane as a tank to pass every stage after chapter 9, pure dodge rng xD
slate mason
so brutus and kaz frontlining?
ashen mantle
Yeah, but ita so much rng with dodge on top
grim vessel
@steep cape
tame wigeon
zinc wren
Any advice for 20-30?
ashen mantle
@tardy river try swaping shemira and thoran
@zinc wren gl with the rng xD thats all the help i can give u on wilder levels xD
tardy river
@ashen mantle by ? Tried lots of things already
sly sparrow
Need help 12-4 please
zinc wren
@ashen mantle with my team and formation should I be able to beat 20-30?
ashen mantle
@tardy river shemira isnt frontline untill she is 161, and try to get an arden :) he will help u alot
pallid lake
Stuck here and it’s not even a boss level 🤦🏻♂️ do I have a hero I need to swap out in the crystal to try or something? Nothing is surviving long enough to really help Sav out here
tardy river
Got a E Arden. I'll try ! Arden frontline ??
ashen mantle
@zinc wren with that or swap nemora for arden, but its sooo much rng its stupid :)
@tardy river arden is backline cc hero
tardy river
Ok I'll try now :) thanks !!
ashen mantle
U can swap ferael for arden, it will work mich better. Ferael is a late game hero and his not that good early on :) GL
@pallid lake try 1-5; brutus,lucius,saveas,arden,lyca
grizzled galleon
Suggestions???
frigid dagger
Any suggestion?
clear kraken
Is it worth switching Fawkes with a wilder hero (for the faction bonus)?
pallid lake
Everything is melting, it ends up with sav trying to solo the whole team @ashen mantle
ashen mantle
@pallid lake xD rip
pallid lake
Yeah 😂😂😂 best I’ve got is he takes out golus and the other sav but then morvus hits his ult and nukes my sav @ashen mantle
ashen mantle
@pallid lake hmm if u change lyca for eironn maby to keep morvus distracted a bit more
@pallid lake and if that doesnt work u can try this wierd lineup 1-5; saveas,brutus,eironn,arden,lyca/nemora
pallid lake
Yeah without the haste from lyca Sav isn’t getting anyone really from all the tries so far. Just tried that lineup and golus and sav are decimating my sav in the first 10 seconds
ashen mantle
Hmm doesnt eironn pull them?
thorn tapir
ashen mantle
@thorn tapir shoot it with the cannon
pallid lake
@ashen mantle yeah this is what’s happened so far every time
ashen mantle
Rip cant play
pallid lake
Rip lol eironn pulls them but my sav gets absolutely nuked
ashen mantle
Ah xD
Try the lineup i told u before but swap lyca for tasi, if only morvus survives sleep/banish should help
oblique phoenix
What's the best team I could build for Soren?
pallid lake
@ashen mantle yeah ending up with Sav 1v5 every time haha maybe I just need some more levels idunno I’m honestly stumped
ashen mantle
Maby :)
limpid gust
Is belinda or warek good?
pallid lake
This ain’t even a boss fight 😂
ashen mantle
@pallid lake it happends all the time xD
@limpid gust they are both good for specific fights, warek is god at guild bosses
delicate void
Need some lineup help
Stuck in chapter 8😭
limpid gust
Numisu?
delicate void
That's currently my setup
brisk tapir
Any Idea ?
tidal pelican
open for suggestions, current lineup doesnt work well, brutus op.
tidal pelican
have 5 heroes leveled
delicate void
i have the fealing nobody helps here 😄
tidal pelican
yeh most ppl just look at questions
ashen mantle
They do, but most are sleeping or bussy
tidal pelican
@rare gulch i'm no expert but u can run ur 3x mauler i think, and aside from that hogan as 2nd frontline and succubus maybe? Make sure to reset heroes beside 5 u wanna level tho and use it to overlevel saveas or brutus, idk which is better someone else can say maybe
mental kayak
indigo jolt
@ember bane I would honestly restart and try for fire/ice. Makes eating through warek much easier. Your other artefacts are a bit of a mix match anyway.
steep cape
@grim vessel what I’m asking is how many of their guys are left alive and what happens to your team person by person
@indigo jolt thanks for the lineup. I moved some stuff around but kaz brutus nem Lyca and athalia pushes me though with massive rng 😃
oblique phoenix
Please help, I'm begging you. I haven't seen my kids in 3 days
thorn tapir
@why do you have support as a frontline?
indigo jolt
@oblique phoenix I would firstly drop nemora for arden. See how that goes.
brisk spade
Any suggestions(1 spot open in crystal, also no this is not my usual lineup)
thorn tapir
@oblique phoenix sav and bru frontline if those your tanks lyca prob gets melted
oblique phoenix
I'm trying this setup now with moderate success. RNG is frustrating though cuz Arden has to root the right enemies and Tasi needs to ult before she dies 😅
tacit kayak
any ideas?
plucky flint
18-32 hot garbage. If Tasi survives the initial burst, she loves to die riiiiight before she ults. I’ve kept four characters alive to a tasi ult using four wilder setup, but they get annihilated as soon as nap time is over.
indigo jolt
What relics you using @plucky flint
plucky flint
Call on tasi, eye on shem, blade on lyca, drape on Brutus, grace on arden
steel moat
@plucky flint try it like this
Grace-Brutus
Eye-Arden (for haste)
Blade- Shemira
Drape-Lyca
plucky flint
I’ll give it a shot
jagged iris
What's my best chance build for pve?
royal timber
Anyone got tips for Stage 5-20?
indigo jolt
Think i used that with the same artefacts above. Ignore stage, forgot to take after stage pic.
plucky flint
@indigo jolt I swear you have the most reliable stage comps. I cleared it on the second try. Ty
indigo jolt
Lol, dont have many more saved up for you only on 19-12 atm.
plucky flint
Lol
thorn tapir
sharp heron
I've been stuck on this level and I'd like to know which formation could potentially help me
junior hound
20-26, help plzz
pale rover
@plush wren Replace either Rosaline or Estrilda with Arden. You'll lose the team buff, but once you see a Brutus crowd control is necessary to help negate his attacks.
@grizzled galleon If you have Nemora, try charming the Vurk in the middle with her. Replace Arden, make Silvina jump to Tasi as a sacrifice. I would say your backline is a bit too underlevelled already, but just see what you can do.
@thorn tapir You will need decent tanks to complete that Voyage battle. Borrow a high level Brutus from a friend.
plush wren
@pale rover I actually tried that, here let me show you how it worked out, give me a few
You mean like this, right?
pale rover
@sharp heron That's a decent lineup, but you may need more crowd control than just Fawkes. Try to borrow a Brutus from a friend and replace Warek first, if you can.
@plush wren
This might be better.
Saveas/Estrilda
Brutus
Arden
Hogan
Estrilda/Saveas
pale rover
@junior hound
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Fawkes
Based on the heroes on your screen. No team bonus.
radiant kiln
@pale rover could you perhaps help me with my problem over in #classic-questions?
pale rover
@plush wren Remove Rosaline if she goes with Hogan. Use Estrilda.
pale rover
@plush wren Then that means gear and levels. Saveas needs to also be higher than Rare+ at that point.
plush wren
So just wait it out and try to upgrade after afking a while?
pale rover
@plush wren Yes. This game is a lot of waiting and afking and retrying, honestly. You can do it, you're on the right track.
plush wren
I see a lot of people hard leveling 1-2 people and stomping through these levels, but I wanted to get the 61 bonus on as many units as I could, should I just stick to this and afk retry or reset and push saveas or something?
junior hound
@pale rover ok ill give it a try, thank you
pale rover
@plush wren It's good to get them all to 61 and then push Saveas as high as you can get, then Brutus, then Arden. Arden at 141 gets 3 roots instead of 2.
plush wren
Thanks 😃
limber helm
Im having trouble with laby right now. Could do the 3 levels easily before, but now I've running into level cap and there is noone 20 levels ahead, I'm stuck. Any advice?
indigo jolt
@limber helm Max saveas, and concentrate on cc and saving tasi ultimate for start of each fight.
bright geyser
I'm lost, nothing works :'(
indigo jolt
@bright geyser
Arden
Brutus
Nem
Shem
Lyca
need to charm fareal.
limber helm
@indigo jolt I can but they already shred my Hogan who is level 112. 😦 Laby heroes are around lvl 130-140 now.
indigo jolt
@limber helm Run brutus and sav front, with arden nem tasi back?
limber helm
but allright, I'll try to reset Hogan to 100 and upgrade Saveas instead
bright geyser
I hate my life right now worked 3rd try I swear I've done it before......... @indigo jolt
graceful bay
Im really not sure about who i should ascend to legendary, nemora should be first, otherwise, i'm looking for ideas
humble skiff
@graceful bay saveas
clear kraken
I’m struggling w 10-36, help? [I usually put Belinda in the middle but I was trying something]
slow kiln
indigo jolt
@slow kiln Try
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Gorvo
Sav
rare gulch
@tidal pelican thank you for your response, .. I was curious i have a faction card.. Does it give me a random or an actual char choice?
Nvm i cant read it says choose.
hot topaz
@void cypress first of all, merge those rare into rare+, then see what u got
void cypress
@hot topaz how do i do that
hot topaz
Ascension temple, the thing above the noble tarven @void cypress
void cypress
plucky flint
18-40? @indigo jolt
void cypress
@hot topaz done sorry it took a bit
hot topaz
@void cypress your current one is good enough, also the cart allows you to retire green heroes, and portrait gives u 100 diamonds whenever u get a new hero
void cypress
@hot topaz i know about the portrait also i dont know what team to make for me i just use all the ones that are on the top and i dont know if i should change characters
hot topaz
@void cypress okay, I will recommend at least for fraction bonus is hogan, ulmus/seirus, shemira, Belinda, rosaline
lusty meadow
hushed girder
still stuck on 9-20 after getting all to 120 in crystal still no luck