Who should be my frontline? Should I go reset one of my heros and take him out the crystal and level him up higher than all my others?
#lineup-help
hollow beacon
woven nimbus
The order that I typed above. The ones pushed out with an indent are frontline. Imagine the writing top to bottom as your lineup top to bottom.
Certain fights may require you to swap things around a little. Brutus should be in front of the enemy that you need to be handled the longest, because of his Last Breath ability. 4 seconds of Invuln before dying.
inner sparrow
@hollow beacon replace Shem with sav
devout berry
@last granite helped a bit, Lucius survives a bit longer. But even with his ultimate, Saveas and Brutus mess me up. Sadly don’t think my team has enough damage
wet fox
thank you 😃 ill try it a few times 😃
inner sparrow
woven nimbus
@inner sparrow That level 104 Skreg hurts me. As well as the extra level 10 Hogan, but anyways, try switching the spot of Tasi and Lucius, then replace Lucius with Rosaline. Let me know how that goes for you.
inner sparrow
I made Skreg 104 because he’s able to go past lvl 101, but s isn’t actually part of my prime team
My tasi and lyca and luscious can’t get past 101 yet, and idk why that hogan is a lvl 10 😅
last granite
@devout berry hmm then maybe a combo of saveas, brutus, numisu/athalia, lucius and belinda since she's mythic. You just gotta make sure she ults cuz that gives lots of damage
zinc wren
Advice for 20-12? Thanks!
oak lance
Stuck 9-12 atm, any advice?
brisk tapir
Any toughts?
peak hare
12-40 stuck need help tried many combos but nothing is working please help
grand dragon
You already tried tasi instead of niru?
zinc wren
Any advice for GB tower 80?
worldly mountain
Help)
peak hare
@grand dragon just tried and had best results so far. Maybe a little more tweaking and I'll get it thank you
wise merlin
@zinc wren Add Ferael to your Crystal, and let him stun one of the 2 Thanes. It'll help a lot.
grand dragon
Np ^^
devout berry
@last granite decided to reset my other hero’s so I could bring Belinda to 160.
Lucius
-Belinda
Saveas
-Brutus
Numisu
Thank you for all your help!
wise merlin
@worldly mountain Hey there 
Give this formation a try :
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Saveas
Her haste should be enough for Nemora's charm to hit (prioritize her charm on Ankhira)
And if Khasos will be rooted by Arden before he deals a lot of damage, you'll benefit a lot from that as well!
Tasi might not be the best choice because she's not level 141, and since then, she doesn't have the cooldown reduction on her teleportation.
plain pewter
@fierce kayak finally beat it, had to upgrade some gear and Shem got off a double alt
fierce kayak
@plain pewter gratz
wise merlin
@plain pewter Nice! :D
grand dragon
Help pls
peak hare
@grand dragon again thank you
brittle summit
For Savage Wastes how strong does my setup need to be to beat Athalia?
peak hare
@grand dragon try swapping sav for isabella for bonus
grand dragon
Ok thx
narrow thicket
@exotic minnow I don't do #lineup-help . Ping @wise merlin :p
exotic minnow
feck
grand dragon
@peak hare lol... It worked xD
peak hare
@grand dragon 👍👍
brittle summit
Now I'm stuck on 18-16. Really hate these stages where the battle is over within 20s. Any suggestions for this one?
oak lance
Stuck on 9-12 🤧 any help?
ember bane
16-20 Which Artifacts good for this team
frigid dagger
@brisk tapir top down shemira brutus top down nemora lyca arden, u can reset ur heroes to 180 and make shemira 220 then lvl up brutus as much as possible it gonna work better than all ur heroes 200
south herald
@ember bane i use call on tasi, Blade on shem, Chalice on nem, drape on arden, and grace on lyca
grand dragon
Any ideas? Tried several formations but I end up dying anyways
fierce kayak
@ember bane tasi banish fareal right. If she is.. drop tasi. Else nemora can't charm fareal.
worldly mountain
@wise merlin thx brother:)
ionic spindle
Stuck at
oak lance
Im stuck on 9-12, any help and advice for lineup?
flint cairn
@brittle summit arden lyca nemora shem and brutus or kaz if do you have her relic for savage waste
last olive
It IS hard with out tasyin chapitre 16 and more
tribal oasis
@grand dragon reset shemira and lcl saceas
loud dagger
@oak lance
Nemora ezizh/gorvo
Arden lyca
Saveas
Just RNG that nemora charms isabella
dull wadi
Help pls
humble zenith
its strange but i stacked on 10-21
visual quiver
that's not a lineup question
ivory wren
Hello 👋, 20-19 is my wall, any way I can improve my line up?
whole lynx
Oops sorry. @visual quiver
rapid meteor
Any tips to beat this? 18-32
ivory wren
How can you be stuck at 18-32 with that power
austere stag
tips? 16-4
vernal berry
GB tower stage 70 need help
rapid meteor
@ivory wrenI get beat up, lol, Silvina is just such a pain...No snare for me etc
+Shemira gets ult way to late to work x.x
wise merlin
@rapid meteor Get your Crystal's level above 161, ASAP.
All that power is meaningless without global might, allowing you to use different formations, with upgraded abilities to your Crystalized heroes.
inner sparrow
Any advice?
crude hinge
anyone got lineup for 20-54
grand dragon
@tribal oasis that would be very stupid cause he can’t go further than 120 anyway cause he is only e+
spice estuary
@inner sparrow savaes as a tank ?
ivory wren
@rapid meteor on who does go the Silvia
brittle summit
@flint cairn I'll try that setup out. As for having the artifact, that is a no (lost to Athalia at the end, though I may have beaten it had I not needed to waste a fountain).
solemn gull
Any help?
pale kettle
any way for this the problem seems that nemora heals like crazy?
spice estuary
@pale kettle do you got Nara ?
pale kettle
on this server nope
i think i would need to find a friend that has mercenary as nara
spice estuary
Because nara grab enemy and can kill nemora
craggy coral
@sly sparrow any suggestions?
pale kettle
yeah i thought of that
sly sparrow
@craggy coral what stage is that?
tulip elm
Yo. Unusal question. How do i beat this muthafucking thane in peaks of time? I beat other 5 with ease, only this guy is very problematic
craggy coral
11-32 @sly sparrow
sly sparrow
@craggy coral oh lmao... well your biggest problem is estrilda so you should try to eliminate her asap... otheriwse she wrecks everyone lmao.. put saveas close to her, also nemora to charm saveas
craggy coral
😂 opp team saveas is my problem
pale kettle
tasi would work too or not really?
sly sparrow
it is bad yea, but i believe in you!
craggy coral
Any line up sugesstions🤔
clear sorrel
Need advice for arena and campaign. Thank you
rapid meteor
@wise merlinI knoooow, but the dust man, it's rare xD
@ivory wrenOn Tasi when with Arden and on Arden with Nemora, but she kills so fast, I can't do anything xD
sleek stone
13-20 any help?
strange glen
who should i focus? should i feed arden to ulmus?
fierce kayak
@strange glen nope. Arden is so good even till chap 22+/-
strange glen
thats what i was thinking but my ulmus keeps dying instantly
strange glen
you can get legendary ogi
jade abyss
How so im new?
lucid anvil
rrr
strange glen
actually wait, go to temple of ascension and do arden+ogi+ogi, then do arden+arden+ogi, then arden+arden
jade abyss
I guess arden is good?
craggy coral
He holds enemies with his roots
solid hazel
Any suggetions? Thanks in advance
surreal venture
@solid hazel Kick Nemora, she’s very bad early
fringe pond
Oh rip she is
?
brittle summit
Now stuck on 18-20. I came close to clearing it a few times, but everytime I got close I was stopped by Niru. What should I do to have a better chance at clearing it?
ivory wren
@rapid meteor you should keep tasi yeah and pray for rng
surreal venture
I mean she’s great if she has her ulti and overall can survive, but in campaign and pvp on early lvls she can’t most of the time
fringe pond
Suggestion on line up? I'm super super confused
solid hazel
@surreal venture worked, thanks
shell turret
@jade abyss You currently have 6 leveled heroes, you can reset Rosa and gain quite a few resources. You're at a level where Saveas should start carrying you or in the very near future, I'd work on ascending him. Golus or Hogan would be a good option for a secondary tank next to Lucius.
surreal venture
@solid hazel Glad to help 👍 Sharing my own experience since I’m pretty new too, but a bit further than you. Would recommend to put all resources for Saveas right now, he’s machine
shell turret
@fringe pond Actually, just reset Estrilda and level Hogan. Try running Lucius/Hogan frontline. Shem, Rowan and Saveas backline. Level up that Sav
last granite
@fringe pond only level your top 5 heroes, the other goes into crystal. Also make higher asscended heroes as your top 5, lyca should take estrilda's place.
fringe pond
Yea I was very confused who my top 5 are
last granite
@fringe pond i mean they could be anyone really, but dont put low tiered hero on your top 5. It's gonna create a level cap sooner or later
jade abyss
In so confused so what should be my lineup moving forward
humble zenith
hey, any help?
last granite
@jade abyss from your roster I think you could focus on Lightbearer. Lucius and Hogan as tank. Belinda, shemira, fawkes for backline. And maybe rosaline sometimes but you gotta know who you wanna buff with rosaline ults before using her
@humble zenith I'm not sure which faction do you focus on but try this
Arden
Brutus
Mirael/saveas
Gorvo
Athalia
fringe pond
@last granite how about estrilda lucius Shem rowan Fawkes? Or replacing Fawkes with tasi
humble zenith
thank you!@last granite
fringe pond
Need to wait a few hours to put PPL at that resonating crystals on timeout atm
last granite
@humble zenith hope it helps!
@fringe pond for you main lineup? Im not sure about rowan since I dont have him myself and dont bother trying him in library. Fawkes and tasi is kinda the same. But if fawkes is helpful to debuff enemies so if you're not against any cc enemy you can use tasi
crude chasm
stuck here for a while now
sleek stone
Any help ? Stuck at 13-20
eager vault
Is the lineup I have solid or should i switch?
last granite
@sleek stone
Lucius, brutus/ezizh (preferably ezizh for extra defense) , shemira, arden, athalia. Put athalia against mirael/harp guy/ whoever preventing lucius from ult
@eager vault it's kinda hard to get faction bonus with your current roster. Does Arden roots helps? If not then take him out of the lineup.
Tank: lucius, hogan/thoran (preferably hogan, he's a better tank imo + faction bonus)
Backline: saveas, khasos, fawkes
sly sparrow
@last granite hogan is better than thoran? pfft
last granite
@sly sparrow in my experience for early game yes. Thoran dies way too quickly, his ult also takes too long
sly sparrow
that doesnt even make sense... thoran is ascended tier so he should work better than legendary tier only
last granite
@sly sparrow ya that's why I said for early game. Late game is a whole nother case
thorn tapir
last granite
@eager vault Soo it only helps a little bit? Who's the last man standing on the enemy team?
eternal shore
Help 10-16
eager vault
Fricken khaos
eternal shore
For me ?
last granite
@eager vault congrats then! playing with lineup is definitely half of the battle
ornate laurel
eager vault
Weird flex but ok
ornate laurel
Can anyone help me build my strongest team
eager vault
I can try
thorn tapir
eager vault
Nemora saveas khaos backline and then Lucius and athalia frontline
But don't trust me
silk leaf
thorn tapir
@lemos sav is your carry and arden is your CC, frontline lucis and sav back arden shemira..... Yiur 5th i would out a healer but youre lacking 1😅
eager vault
I can always buy nemora from shop
Wait so Arden shemira and sav backline?
Then Lucius and?........?
austere stag
1 or 2? PvE and PvP
thorn tapir
Sav and lucis woukd be good frontline but you dont have anyone meta for backline @eager vault
eager vault
Like?
thorn tapir
Go to setup is frontline brutus, lucis, sav, shemira(late game) & backline arden, nemora, tasi, lyra
eager vault
What about mid game
thorn tapir
Plsy around with your setup but your investment is sav and shemira and arden
eager vault
Ok
austere stag
@eager vault wait till you hit midgame, you don't know which heroes you will get/ascend
eager vault
So I'm still earlygame?
austere stag
I'd say that yeah, Midgame is 160-240, Endgame is when all your heroes are maxed
eager vault
Kk
thorn tapir
Im mid game @eager vault
eager vault
Oh shoot ok
thorn tapir
Early 1-60 Mid 61-160 late 161-+
novel tusk
Ideas?
eager vault
I'm gonna play around with my set up
I'll update u guys when I see something changes
fierce kayak
IMagician is right on early mid late game @eager vault
thorn tapir
I need to beat this last stage so i can mythic my nemora😤😤😤😤
eager vault
Mmmk
thorn tapir
@fierce kayak
eager vault
Tbh I already fine my setup
I just need another frontliner cos kaz isn't doing anything
austere stag
1 or 2?
eager vault
2 for me
lofty depot
Need some help with this level
thorn tapir
You can also use the tier list website to see whos a good frontline dos buffer cc etc
eager vault
What's the qualities of a good frontliner
warm ocean
F this estrilda
thorn tapir
Survivability and defenses (actual def and skills)
Thats why you mainly see sav, lucius, brutus, and later on shemira
austere stag
@eager vault A good tank is usually warriors with some sort of cc/support ability. Later on meattanks aren't as good. The best tanks are Lucius, Brutus and Grezhul for his summons
eager vault
Grezhul?
austere stag
his skeletons always spawn behind frontline enemies, so it's a cc if you look at it that way
eager vault
Well
broken egret
hows thoran lategame?
eager vault
austere stag
not good, he's a slightly worse version than Brutus and Grezhul imo
whole smelt
@eager vault what list is that?
sly sparrow
@austere stag grezhul is better than thoran?
stark nacelle
I’d pick him over thoran
eager vault
Fill in the gaps
fierce kayak
@thorn tapir tasi banish khoasos? How many you managed to kill them? I mean how far behind?
astral lark
Should I feed Arden to nemora to make her mythic? Or is Arden better to keep as legendary plus
fierce kayak
@thorn tapir you have a lot of Ls stuck. But anyway can try
Sav
Brutus
Arden
Gorvo
Tasi
Or
Nemora/tasi
Brutus
Belinda
Sav
Tasi/arden
eager vault
Do I do it
fierce kayak
@thorn tapir Else
Athlia
Brutus
Tasi
Savaes
Arden
astral lark
Should I?
eager vault
Or do I feed thoran to silvina
waxen flower
Any ideas to what team I should be focusing on? The boxed ones are my current campaign team
spice estuary
VoW what team should i use ? My campaign team or a team with Nemora ?
thorn tapir
Lemon
You need arden and nemora why are you uisng them early game to feed @eager vault
crude shuttle
Im stuck in 8-32 help pls
placid mortar
Hmmm let’s see
pale kettle
Help 🙃
versed patrol
Any help on voyage of wonders?
pale kettle
@crude shuttle
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
Estridla
Saveas
pale kettle
@placid mortar Saveas will swap targets to Silv
placid mortar
@crude shuttle try replacing rose with Nara to pull away silvina
crude shuttle
@pale kettle no hes right, silv reking my team from behind
rugged monolith
placid mortar
Ur try it and tell me but first make that Nara op with levels and gear
crude shuttle
@placid mortar my front is dying so fast.
rugged monolith
How do I beat this
placid mortar
Eli that saveas will not help you at elite replace him with raine
pale kettle
Is my set up good
rugged monolith
Cause this is what I have. And the sav was my final resort. I tried most of them
placid mortar
@pale kettle put Baden in front and Belinda in the middle
crude shuttle
@placid mortar
pale kettle
K
rugged monolith
I'm just stuck
placid mortar
@crude shuttle that golus is a problem
ember bane
@fierce kayak my Tasi asleep Shmeria and Nemora charms Niru/Fareal
pale kettle
That ok
fierce kayak
@ember bane ic. Ok.. then this is another stage then.
placid mortar
@pale kettle for now it’s ok but try to get a shemira from the lab and keep building her
pale kettle
K
crude shuttle
@placid mortar yea ure right, any plans?
placid mortar
All I have is this lol
rugged monolith
Please just tell me a lineup. I can change my crystal heroes aswell
placid mortar
@crude shuttle try putting him away using fawkes or tasi
novel tusk
Ideas?
feral light
How to clear this
fickle ferry
I can’t clear this
rugged monolith
Put brutus and lucius in the front?
placid mortar
Put Brutus Infront of golus
craggy talon
No clue what to do
fickle ferry
@rugged monolith but I keep getting destroyed by silvina
eager vault
1 or 2 in terms of early-mid game
summer maple
tropic thistle
@summer maple i normally put my weakest mage behind brutus because they always die to double silvina in my cases.
so hopefully after the mage dies they go on brutus and he can tank and kill them with his spin
pale kettle
@placid mortar
stuck siren
Can someone recommend me a tank that would replace hendrik
pale kettle
Do u mean this
shell turret
@stuck siren Hendrick is decent
inner vector
Need help 🤷♂️
raven tinsel
untold nacelle
Need help. Stuck here 😆
drifting karma
raven tinsel
Hello guys thats my lb line up i want to change nemora to other char i'm thinking rowan for team heal and energy or rosaline for boosting belinda
crude shuttle
Idk what to do @placid mortar nothinf working 😦
drifting karma
Suggestions?
shell turret
@raven tinsel Rowan is allegedly S tier, plus you'll get that 5 faction bonus. Test it out.
devout kindle
Any good team formations I can form out of my characters?
spice estuary
Stuck
thorny tendon
I could use some help with this
shell turret
@thorny tendon Could try taking out Ferael, pushing Rosa back and using Grez as second tank
molten lance
What would be a good lineup, and which lightbearer should I get to L?
tawny abyss
Fawkes could be a good unit
woeful verge
i got an epic saveas now, is it worth to bench the legendary shemira for saveas ?
tawny abyss
Shakira is part of the meta rn
woeful verge
i was told its all about saveas no ?
tawny abyss
Shemira*
thorny tendon
Sorry to bother again. I tried different strats and heroes but I'm not cutting it
grand dragon
@spice estuary try this:
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
thorny tendon
Estrilda is a boss
covert condor
What can I even do, using Estrilda Lucius with Arden Lyca Nemora
on 14-16 im waiting on 1 more epic shemira
pale kettle
What dose this mean
obsidian bridge
What is your question?
sly shadow
It means you finished the labyrinth?
frigid veldt
Stuck on 21-4. Any lineup suggestions?
golden spade
Any help with this bs?
obsidian bridge
Stuck on 16-20 anyone have any thoughts? Tried about 50 different combos
torn narwhal
Stuck at 15-40, can anyone help me?
frigid veldt
@torn narwhal take a screenshot of your heroes and the stage
molten lance
Should I get Fawkes or Mirael to L
drifting karma
@torn narwhal I would keep Belinda and estaldia at 160 and pump the rest into shem
molten lance
Should I get Fawkes or Mirael to L?
drifting karma
Fawkes and mirael caps at 160 L+
molten lance
hm
frigid veldt
@torn narwhal what @drifting karma said. I would push Shem to 181 if you can. No Arden? If possible get Arden into your crystal.
torn narwhal
Can't make a arden right now
frigid veldt
Oh you can't bring Shem to 181. But 180 should help.
torn narwhal
I really want to clear the stage now xD
frigid veldt
Not even a blue? He would be a big help on that.
drifting karma
I would prob even feed saveus into brutus to make him L+
Saveus is no longer a carry once u get shem 160+
frigid veldt
He needs an E+ Brutus to make him L+
torn narwhal
Need one more brutus for L+
frigid veldt
@molten lance Fawkes is an Ascended level hero. Def go Fawkes over Mireal
molten lance
@frigid veldt was thinking mirael for her shield haha. Fawkes has been rlly helpful as a E though
frigid veldt
@molten lance he's great later on
@lime hawk reset and feed Sav as high as he can go. He'll be your carry until you can get mythic heroes.
lime hawk
ive tried 80sav 61brutus before guess ill try again
obsidian bridge
Stuck on 16-20 any thoughts?
grand dragon
Any tips. I just don’t get how to do this... Is it possible I can’t do it with my charas
jovial moat
@grand dragon I remember doing that one, Isabella is a pain, but you definitely have better ascension and levels than I did, so I bet you can beat it
grand dragon
Kk thx but somehow it always ends like: everyone dead after 20 sec and enemies have full life
wise radish
been pretty stuck at 20-54 even with double CC via Arden and tasi. not sure what I should do - enemy team just burns mine down too quickly for any meaningful ults to go up
anybody who's gone through this stage have any ideas?
frigid dagger
@wise radish
wise radish
@frigid dagger I've gotta try this formation again! how many retries did it take for you to win this?
frigid dagger
I dont remember tbh but probably was a lot
urban flax
Need help deciding who to ascend from E+ to L and who to use as fodder:
Estrilda 2x, Fawkes, Hogan, Mirael, Belinda, Raine
wise radish
I get ya. it seems to do okay but I'm gonna have to do a bunch of retries. thank you!
urban flax
Thought goes to estrilda using Hogan and Mirael as fodder so Estrilda can go to L+ right after
pale kettle
Any advice on my lineup?
urban flax
Currently at level 120 barrier and need one more legendary for all 121+ on resonating
unreal solar
fierce kayak
@torn narwhal the trick whenever you face fareal is to use Nemora mirror lane and charm him. Reset if charm fails.
But I use meta team.
torn narwhal
@fierce kayak ty
craggy talon
Saveas just keeps fucking any formation I make
sly shadow
Any suggestions?
warm creek
Any advice on 21-20? It’s a lot of damage
hoary fulcrum
obsidian bridge
Stuck on 16-20 any ideas
brisk slate
have you tryed saveas ? instead of tasi ? and maybe get a helper Athalia
dreamy mesa
I feel like I could change to make it better the red outline is my normal lineup is there other joreoesni have that would be a better choice also is legendary+ the highest I can go
brisk slate
you should try and focus to get saveas to Legendary + he can carry you a lot
also Arden is a really good and ftp friendly choice
obsidian bridge
I definitely slept on Arden for a long time, but his root is so consistent and don’t need energy for it, so nice
dreamy mesa
Also should I be using niru as a frontline
oak lance
Stuck on 9-12
dreamy mesa
I also don't got arden what is he
molten lance
He is a wizard that rapes your butthole with vines
dreamy mesa
Oh the tall hairy guy
oak lance
If u look at my heroes it’s the 6th one
dreamy mesa
Oh short big beard wizard guy
brisk slate
have you tried lucis in front line and nemora not in ?
oak lance
@brisk slate me?
brisk slate
yes @oak lance
dreamy mesa
Anything I can do
brisk slate
or borrow a Brutus and put saveas behind hin on the top
oak lance
What do i put in backline instead of nemora?
brisk slate
lyca :S
ebon ridge
Any help? Or am I underlv
frigid dagger
@warm creek
hardy pivot
Im completely stuck here, can someone help? Thanks
brisk slate
your goal is to kill the top front asap because he heals when the opponent gets a kill @oak lance
ebon ridge
Super stuck as well
oak lance
Im still losing but ima keep trying bc this is the closest i’ve been to beating it
gilded walrus
No formation was having any luck until I discovered this one for 16-40. Beat it within just a few tries after struggling for a while. If anyone needs help, try this!
warm creek
Thanks @frigid dagger ! I’ll give that a shot
pale kettle
Anyone have any advice on my team so I can beat this?
plucky flint
I’ve tried this one several hundred times. I’m underleveled and waiting on the xp trickle to get my shem up. I’ve settled in on this being my optimal lineup, but curious if anyone has a better suggestion. Tasi phases ferael, so using nemora to charm him doesnt do any good. 17-28
teal galleon
molten brook
@pale kettle - I'm just a baby. But i would throw Kaz or Silvinia at her if you have them
mellow hound
Been stuck here for 3 days, usually ends with Sav vs Sav and timing out
pale kettle
@molten brook yeah, sounds great but they get 1 tapped and do like 0 damage to her
Although i haven't tried with them, i tried with Athalia
tribal oasis
@mellow hound tried lyca? 121 brutus and 141 saveas should help if u have the essence for it.
Edit: Put nemora on top and saveas also top hope she charms enemy saveas to kill thst hypo tank
pale kettle
@mellow hound I'd throw in there a Fawkes just to prevent that axe boi deleting your whole team
mellow hound
I dont yet, Brutus doesn't have another tier and pentagram isnt 120 yet. I dont have fawkes either
If Saveas is on top he dies too quickly from the other Saveas, Brutus has to be on top.
Edit: He was charmed
tribal oasis
That's why nemora needs to charm him. And arden needs to snare him.
pale kettle
I'd say he needs to charm Khasos first, them take care of Saveas
rancid sundial
I need help
north pelican
tribal oasis
How does hogan do instead of brutus there? I find brutus shit pre 141 tbh.
north pelican
Stuck on 12-12
tribal oasis
@north pelican get brutus to 141 for 3 second more invulnerability.
Can u even do that? He's not l+ right?
rugged marten
@north pelican put Brutus in crystal and level up Vedan so you can get 141 for Brutus
tribal oasis
Exact same setup just use vedan in pentagram so u can level past level cap
manic kayak
Anyone know how to beat warek on solar planes?
rugged marten
Vedan is legendary+, his level cap is 160 @north pelican
Your crystal is your lowest pentagram hero
north pelican
Damn I’m going to need 12000 dust
rugged marten
The game is a marathon, not a sprint
tribal oasis
U get dust back from the cart
north pelican
To level up the other 2 to 141
rugged marten
It shouldn't be 12k?
tribal oasis
@north pelican reset brutus then level vedan. You need 6k dust.
rugged marten
Okay yeah nvm, it is
north pelican
Oh yeah
tribal oasis
I got 300 from bounties yday. Today I got some gold
north pelican
I need 6k
rugged marten
My bad, been a while since I had to level a hero to 161 😅
north pelican
Time to afk lol
rancid sundial
Can anyone help?
tribal oasis
Go afk for a couple hours
rancid sundial
😔
mellow hound
Lol honestly just be patient early game
oak lance
Any ideas
rugged marten
I wouldn't recommend using Ferael this early on, he power spikes like crazy, but take a long time to get him to that point, either overlevel Kelthur and see how he does, or overlevel Mirael, she works quite well for a little while @rancid sundial
tribal oasis
@oak lance saveas in front of niru he nerds to die or he murders you
Swap out gorvo for lucius crisp if he can get an ult off it is worth it
sly shadow
Any suggestions?
teal galleon
halp me with dis 
mellow hound
@sly shadow
Tasi
Saveas
Arden
Ulmus
Archer chick
Edit: Faction bonus is huge
mellow hound
😁
oak lance
@tribal oasis so saveas, lucius and dont change backline?
Anyone else have any other suggestions?
sly shadow
I used your set up for last chapter boss it worked again @mellow hound
mellow hound
😁
young vigil
anyone have an idea? stuck for a few days now zz
pale kettle
warm mauve
@young vigil i passed iz with same heros but shemira 220 rest 180
pale kettle
Hello can someone help , it's 11-38
young vigil
@warm mauve ye i figured im prob just underleveled ty
rain atlas
minor pine
Quite a new player looking for help to beat this level / work out my best line up
ember veldt
Try belinda in from row
minor pine
Replacing Hogan or EST?
Whoever goes up against Ogi gets smashed. And my Rosaline follows Belinda as she is higest attack
north pelican
Thank you sexy people
minor pine
My god it took a few attempts and moving Mehira lower
ember veldt
Hmm or make estrilda epic
minor pine
But thank you Pwn3dd, I would never have thought to put her squishy ass up front
ember veldt
Hogan is no ascend and is easy to regain. Normaly i just keep moving around haha
minor pine
Can I not acend him? I swear it lets me. Or is it just not worth it in the long run? Almost at the needed lab coins to buy a second EST as food though, next week I imagine.
naive kelp
fickle ferry
I was told that even with Brutus khasos is backline
indigo jolt
@young vigil
tepid glen
Got anything? I’ve tried multiple lines up, pretty much every hero is near 1 second death aside from Brutus
signal canopy
Choke point on the garbage event that only has 3 days left any help please please 3rd time asking here and nobody has responded Silv runs up behind my team and then Niru keeps healing them when my people die
Here’s my whole crew. Which relics should I get/what team am should I run?
tepid glen
I ran through the whole thing with Brutus and shem and the rest random teammates that always die.
Relics sunstone, moonstone, ice bringer, fire bringer , poisonous embrace are really good
Try brutus, kaz up front, shem, lyca nemora in the back
Not sure what artifacts you have but you can try drape on brutus, blade on kaz, call on shem, grace on nemora, eye on lyca
past nymph
11-16, anything I can try or am I just gonna be here for a while?
faint quest
Switch fawkes for brutus and try this
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Lyca @past nymph
zinc wren
Any advice for 20-20?
alpine estuary
Charm the opponent’s nemora. Should be an easy stage @zinc wren
plucky flint
Going on prob over 1000 attempts. I know im underlevelled but any lineups you think I should try instead? This is the best ive found so far
tepid glen
try brutus, lyca up front, nemora, tasi, arden in back.
also put call on tasi if you have it to try and get an ult off
can always try brutus, kaz frontline, shem behind brutus, nem/tasi, lyca
steel moat
@plucky flint make sure to put nemora centre back so she charms ferael, arden on top back and lyca on bottom back
If shemira is dying easily you can use lyca as an offtank up front
real jolt
what’s the most optimal lineup
frigid spruce
Any ideas on this lineup? 12-28
minor pine
May I ask, Is Hogan worth making legendary?
steel moat
@real jolt for the time being probably brutus + hogan frontline and saveas + tasi + arden backline (iirc arden needs to be over lvl 60 to be effective) but later on you will want to invest in shemira as a carry
@frigid spruce try
Belinda/Tasi
Lucius/Saveas
Arden
Saveas/Lucius
Nemora
Your current setup can work but i'd put arden center back and switch your frontline positions
@minor pine if you don't have another more reliable tank around when you get to ch 9 or 10 then yes
whole granite
http://prntscr.com/oq9kgo http://prntscr.com/oq9kke any idea for a team comp for this one?
steel moat
@whole granite try
Arden/Nemora/Tasi
Saveas/Brutus
Mirael
Saveas/Brutus
Fawkes
untold nacelle
Guessing i need higher heroes but any ideas?
wet sonnet
Havent been able to move past this. Not sure what to run since estrilda just reks my backline
indigo jolt
@wet sonnet Try
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi/Nem
steel moat
@untold nacelle i would run the same setup but with arden center back and tasi top back
drifting root
Stuck on 10 8, dont really know what i should try
steel moat
@drifting root that's a good set of heroes actually, but repositioning them like that might help
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Tasi
Hopefully saveas will get charmed and that will take a lot of damage off brutus
drifting root
I'll try ty
tepid glen
Any ideas? @steel moat
indigo jolt
@tepid glen
Tasi
Brutus
Shem
Lyca
Arden
tepid glen
I don't have arden
indigo jolt
Nemora in for arden, hope nemora charms enemy arden.
steel moat
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca/Shemira
Lyca/Shemira
tepid glen
I ended up beating it when I swtiched nemora and lycas spot. Must've been luck though, I've moved them around multiple times trying it and never came close. Got a good tasi ult this time though
steel moat
What stage is that?
indigo jolt
18-40
tepid glen
18-40
steel moat
Oh i'm not there yet 
congrats on beating 18!
tepid glen
Thanks. I figured I would ask since you were giving good lineups. Didn't know if I was missing something. I definitely think I just got lucky there though. I wasn't even coming close before with the same lineup.
steel moat
Yeah rng makes a disturbingly large difference 
eager jay
Struggling with this stage. Any suggestions? Can almost raise Belinda to 161. Just missing a bit of dust.
minor pine
@steel moat thank you, I don't really know whatay work, I have only been playing 8 days, could I ask your advice for a lineup? This stage is now annihilating me. Silvania is killing me
steel moat
Who does she attack in your backline?
minor pine
All of them, she normally starts with Belinda, then just works her way around
indigo jolt
@minor pine Switch gear around so that mehira has lowest defence.
pale kettle
Can this be done?
tepid glen
@eager jay, try brutus, lucius in front, belinda, tasi, fawkes. Tasi and faukes should take two out early with coffin and banish. Hopefully get a good tasi ult.
indigo jolt
@wet warren Unsure if your belinda can tank as its that overlevlled, maybe try.
Nem
Bel
Arden
brutus
Tasi
If it cant, drop nem for Lyca and have Lyca infront of Bel and Belinda mid back.
dreamy mesa
Should i do this or not both of them are in my normal lineup
indigo jolt
@dreamy mesa No, Kelthur is as ascended tier hero.
minor pine
So dropping mehiras defence was an easy swap with Rosalind and it got silvania to attack her jut she killed her before she could get her minions out. I think I just need a bit more do for my guys before this one gets done 🤣
Thank you to all who have helped me today. It is appreciated
dreamy mesa
Mkay
indigo jolt
@wet warren NP, you're way overlevelled just not usual hero setup.
wet warren
Bel was highest but this week got like 5 Epic brutus 's should i swap the levels ? Brutus and bel you thing
indigo jolt
@wet warren Stick with belinda, i would say just more reliant on how her ult goes.
untold nacelle
Thanks for the last advice! Hit another wall though. That brutus hurts..
plucky flint
@steel moat that worked! I was sure I needed tasi so gave up trying to charm ferael. Guess I underestimated how badly ferael was hindering me.
sage mango
bright geyser
Best team for Soren with current HEROES?
oblique phoenix
Should I do my 10 faction pulls for Graveborns or Wilders? I'm leaning Graveborn to get fodder for mythic Shemira
silent crane
Advice for 10-32?
untold nacelle
Need help with this one please 😂
obsidian bridge
Hey everyone. I’ve been stuck on this tower level for quite a while now. My team is just not made for this fight. Anyone have any suggestions?
oblique phoenix
@untold nacelle try swapping Shemira for Tasi so Silvina targets her, then swap Brutus with Hogan and put Saveas where Arden is
indigo jolt
@obsidian bridge
SHem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
obsidian bridge
@indigo jolt flawless I don’t know why I didn’t try her back row
indigo jolt
Np lol
molten olive
Does anyone have any tips for getting past this? I have been stuck for a while
velvet flower
What’s my win condition here?
steel moat
I just beat that stage, i think with this formation @velvet flower
Use brutus instead of estrilda though
velvet flower
Ogi is so damn annoying, I’ll try Tasi instead of Nemora
mystic hare
Yo my dudes, is there a tier list or someone that can help me decide who I should keep on my team and upgrade and stuff?
frosty kite
indigo jolt
@molten olive Try
Lyca
Mehira/Lucius
Tasi/Nemora
Brutus
Nemora/Tasi
sand rune
Who/how should I level next?
indigo jolt
Nemora or Lyca, depends on no. of copies.
unkempt pier
@sand rune shemira
ripe trail
Which heroes should I focus on?
gray stratus
topaz eagle
14:40, any advice? I just keep getting stun chained or mirael shield wrecks me
past nymph
lucius over nara may help
sand rune
@indigo jolt @unkempt pier Huh. What are the benefits of one over the other?
bitter kernel
@sand rune Lucius helps if you are losing a hero too early or need your team to last longer. Nara helps if the enemy has one particularly annoying hero that you need to keep in check
unkempt pier
@sand rune shemira can wipe a team on her own in chap 18
plucky flint
@obsidian bridge try
Shem
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Oh nvm, I saw you already beat it
bitter kernel
Ah heck...I totally messed that up. Wrong conversation and everything mb.
@pale kettle try replacing Lyca with Nemora. You aren't really short on damage, so the extra healing and a charm should help
untold nacelle
Help needed please lol
bitter kernel
@untold nacelle it's a long shot, but see if saveas can take Hogan's place, then put Shemira where saveas is currently
Wait actually, you have no bonuses depending on saveas, so you could probably just replace him with shemira
hybrid lotus
Should I lose vurk or Safiya for khasos?
pale kettle
i’m stuck and need help
bitter kernel
@hybrid lotus neither. Khasos is mediocre at best. Vurk is going to be your damage once you start doing faction-specific tower levels
hybrid lotus
Hm I heard khasos is better with signature item. If not I won’t think much about it.
Can you tell me how Safiya is worth keeping? I’m currently at 14-34 and just trying to see what changes I can make.
bitter kernel
Safiya's start of battle buff is nice. The main issue is that you'll want to hold on to five maulers for late game, and unless you somehow like warek better than her, she's the only option left for slot 5
hybrid lotus
Hm I don’t have much in the way of maulers but if you say she is good I might as well hold off.
As with Tasi... any clear way with her getting leveled up?
bitter kernel
When in doubt, use the labyrinth to try out heroes (if you find them in the carts) and see how you like them. Safiya will be nice for drawing assassins away from numisu at the bare minimum
hybrid lotus
I don’t want to sacrifice the lyca I have but if she won’t matter much later on or won’t have much of a place...
bitter kernel
Lyca+Eironn will be your Wilder damage. Definitely keep her. You're going to need to wait for one more e+ I think. I've gotten away with not having Nemora so far, but most people would disagree with my choice to let her go
hybrid lotus
So beside lyca, the other wilders I have at l+ are worth letting go for Tasi?
Ah shit you mentioned eironn. Nvm
I just really want to get Tasi higher because I keep getting her
bitter kernel
Kaz is really situational. You could lose her and not regret anything. You're close since you already have a duplicate ogi
Yeah Tasi is definitely a keeper. She and Fawkes carried me a long way together, and her special item is a nice addition too
hybrid lotus
Here is my current lineup for what it’s worth. Input welcome.
I would swap Belinda with grezhul but Belinda is ascended and grez is still just L+
bitter kernel
How long does Nemora survive on the front line if you swap her and Belinda?
hybrid lotus
Not long. I try several times with her in either 1st or second spot. I try to hide her behind Shemira as with Arden.
bitter kernel
Swap her gear with Belinda's and put either dura's call or dura's drape on her
Beef up those lamb chops as much as you can and hope she survives long enough to ult once
Or...put Tasi in slot 1 and Nemora in slot 3 and see what happens
pale kettle
Am stuck help
elfin moth
I am just getting my butt whooped on this one. 10-40. Do I need to level more? Or is my Frontline just not up to this? Lucius and Hendrick just die in seconds here
fresh notch
Hey guys should I max saveas or just spread the levels out on my other guys (12-4) thanks
last granite
@fresh notch usually leveling your dps 20-40 levels above the other is the way to go so you can max saveas first
oak lance
Any help?
fresh notch
@last granite thanks!
paper girder
shy tinsel
I know I’m fairly new but can anyone give me recommendations on a good lineup with what I have? Thanks 😃
mellow hound
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Archer chick
I always forget her name
fierce kayak
@shy tinsel
Sav
Brutus
Estrilda/ (Belinda)
Hogan
Belinda/ (Rosaline)
Keep levelling only Sav (overlevel) till max then level tank. Sav always behind brutus
mellow hound
Welp nvm lol
fierce kayak
Some game tips:
Easier game advancement is focusing on Carry hero like Savaes to L+ 160, Shemira replace him when she is M 161. Build Arden to L+ 141 too and can be use till around chap 22.
Overlevel carry hero at least 20 to 40 level from the rest... then level tank next, last 3 supports last.
Spend diamonds on summons and 5 elite shards (90 diamonds for 40% discount)
Lab heroes foucs Shemira and Nemora. 1st month of play should be able to buy 2 heroes. You can get nemora and Shemira each on 1st month. Then buy Shemira all the way till she L+, then buy nemora till she L+, then buy Shemira again till she Ascend, then nemora.
Try to only enhance Mythic gear.
Try to buy daily dust from store.
Try not to fodder Ascended tier hero.
Generally try to ascend straight to E+/L+. Focus on one hero per faction (except wilders) to ascend cos you will need lots of fodders from L+ to M/M+, etc. Do plan before ascend.
Meta team: Wilders CC back, Shemira Brutus
Do read up to Glourious Tier list
@shy tinsel
shy tinsel
Thank you 😃 I've been reading up on tiers and what not was just struggling with my lineup trying to figure out if I could improve it. The lineup suggested is what I have been using mostly (sometimes Fawkes), mostly it looks like I just have to wait and level up a bit more and also focus on lvling sav for now.
woven nimbus
Any recommendations?
crude shuttle
8-32 help pls x,x
formal bronze
Stuck on 16-20. Just upgraded Shem to mythic and Belinda from Mythic to Ascended. Not sure how to arrange everything.
bitter kernel
@formal bronze maybe
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes
Tasi
Shemira
?
cloud ermine
Need help 13-20
formal bronze
@bitter kernel Thank you 😃 I might just need to get better gear for Lucius, he gets one hit every time lol
slow kiln
Can I get some help on 9-32?
https://imgur.com/a/jEmXzX2
bitter kernel
@cloud ermine your Eironn isn't doing enough damage to be worth it. I'd replace him with Nara.
@formal bronze yeah if Lucius is dying fast you're in a bit of trouble lol. Probably just need to wait for gear and levels
@slow kiln you have more than enough damage and not enough crowd control. I'd replace saveas with arden
regal sorrel
Help me build a team please. I'm still new to this game. Thanks everyone 🙂
slow kiln
@bitter kernel how I should spread my levels ? I only have enough resources to make 4 heroes 120 and 1 hero 123
fierce kayak
@regal sorrel you can scroll up and read my tips above. Don't ascend heroes to L unless they can go straight to L+. Meanwhile try
Sav
Lucius
Rosaline/arden/Tasi/fawkes
Estrilda (she is squishy so does have much choice for you unless you go for thorgan or other legendary tier heroes to L+)
Belinda
bitter kernel
@slow kiln maxxing out shemira is probably your best bet. I don't recall what the level 121 bonuses are, but if Arden gets to trap 3 enemies at 121, definitely get that after shemira
golden spade
Any help here? Been stuck on this for a minute.
pale kettle
Stuck on 9-32 for a few hours now 
bitter kernel
@golden spade swap Tasi and shemira positions and see what happens
cedar ember
Currently using Warek, Shemira, Belinda, Rosaline, and Raine for Wrizz, should I swap one of em out for Baden?
Also using Shemira, Grezhul, Kaz, Lyca, and Nemora for Soren, any changes?
hushed girder
bitter kernel
@pale kettle being stuck for a few hours is nothing to sweat over ;) just put the game down and come back to it later (hence the name "afk")
@cedar ember drop warek like a hot potato. Baden will probably raise your Wrizz damage by about...10% if not more. Then as a separate test, replace Raine with Grezhul
hushed girder
thats 9-20 . not sure what to do
hard hollow
Kill verdn asap
bitter kernel
I've never liked saveas...always felt like he's a one-trick pony and a lone wolf at the same time. He doesn't benefit the rest of the team hardly at all. Try replacing him with Ira to counteract Nemora's healing
hard hollow
Get saevas to 160 he will carry you till ch 11
bitter kernel
Bleh...unless you're hell-bent on using maulers, saveas is overrated.
One other thing to try is Arden. Between Belinda and Brutus I think you have enough damage to get away with it?
hushed girder
nemoras heals are way to slow to even include her in team and arden doesnt have damage
bitter kernel
Ach...that enemy Nemora is killing you. Maybe Arden, Ira, Belinda in the back in that order
hushed girder
killed 3 then death
bitter kernel
Oo closer. Now swap Brutus and Hogan?
hushed girder
bitter kernel
Try a few times. Success is going to depend on who the enemy Nemora charms
hushed girder
she charms brutus at beginning of battle
and if i switch anything around backline gets one banged for 45k
bitter kernel
Nemora's charm picks a random enemy, so you'll have to try each lineup several times just to be sure
oak lance
Help?
bitter kernel
@oak lance try
Belinda
Nemora
Lyca
Lucius
Arden
@oak lance ooo you have Gorvo too...maybe swap Lyca out for him
hushed girder
best run in 50 runs
bitter kernel
Ouch. You might be SOL then for now. How fast is your front line dying?
north pelican
Honestly lyca helped me so much on ch9
pale rover
@oak lance Can you try Golus and Gorvo in front, Saveas Nemora (charm the other Nemora)/Lyca (haste) and Arden at the back?
woven sedge
I'm stuck there too :D
north pelican
Who’s your line up puzzle
woven sedge
north pelican
Try
Saveas
Rosalind
Belinda
Lucius
Ulmus
woven sedge
My tanks die so fast, I'll try
whole smelt
Stuck on 8-40 for 3 days. Please help
woven sedge
Ya it's fine, I recently got stuck here since yesterday. I just got enough for 121 and thinking of upgrading Belinda or the Sheep
floral cipher
@woven sedge
Belinda
Shem
Rosalind
(The Wilder sword dude)
Tasi
@whole smelt show me your hero pool
north pelican
I feel like the front line is just gonna die quickly for puzzle
faint quest
Use lyca instead of arden and switch, saveas and brutus place, same with shems and belindas place @whole smelt
whole smelt
@floral cipher
floral cipher
Try changing savues for Shem
whole smelt
The Sav is a mercenary
faint quest
At those stages shem just gets obliterated frontline so she needs to stay backline until 161+
whole smelt
My sav is on the crystal. @faint quest Still died on that stage.
woven sedge
I'm waiting for level ups it's fine. Ty guys
faint quest
Who does silvina target? @whole smelt
whole smelt
Shem unless I put in Rosa
floral cipher
Try pouring together a light bearer Wilder team
whole smelt
@floral cipher I don't have any high level wilders and the only passable LB I have is Belinda
floral cipher
Hmm
whole smelt
I also don't have the 2nd dura artifact
sand rune
Ascended Belinda or L+ or Mythic someone else?
fierce kayak
@sand rune aim for top 5 M first. Preferably someone like Belinda whom you have her copies ready to go A or shop heroes like Estrilda.
But if you don't need break level cap.. you can wait.
Don't rush for ascension unless they are your carry like Shemira.
hushed girder
why not make fawkes leg?
whole smelt
I passed! Arden, Lyca, Shem, A merc, and Brut
sand rune
@fierce kayak Yep, I don’t need to break the level cap yet. I play mostly a meta lineup (Shem, Brutus, Wilders) who are Ascended, Mythic, and Leg+ but didn’t know the direction to take with my other heroes not in current lineup. So you are suggesting to get my other heroes to Mythic first before going to Ascended or higher?
fierce kayak
@sand rune yup. You need crystal 180 to push Shem above 200. So need top 5 at least Mythic.
I using meta team too. One of the top 5 be estrilda. Rest is Shem lyca nemora and Brutus. Only Brutus I don't have his Ascended copies ready but no choice.. have to Ascend.
Estrilda I be buying her from lab.
hushed girder
who has a guide to make higher tier heroes for newer playersm
sand rune
@fierce kayak thanks, I appreciate it
zinc wren
Advice on Mauler 50?
ember bane
@clear saddle i tried this several times
clear saddle
@ember bane is this the one?
ember bane
Yes
bitter kernel
@zinc wren my advice is stop using saveas. Check if vurk is caught up in stats. He's way better late game either way so you might as well get ready to feed saveas to him
faint quest
Ughh this stage is giving me headaches
ember bane
@clear saddle is artifact correct
bitter kernel
@ember bane dura's eye goes on shimera
clear saddle
Could drape on lyca as well doesn’t matter too much I think. Eye on Arden. Blade always on Shem lmao
faint quest
No blade works on shem 100%, lyca needs drape cuz of the dodge bonus @ember bane
ember bane
Ok ty
clear saddle
@ember bane tbh I didn’t have any artifact on lyca iirc
faint quest
Yep this formation worked should work for u too
bitter kernel
Hmm... I get the extra attack from blade being nice for shemira, but the attack speed to charge ult faster has always worked better for me
clear saddle
Don’t need eye when you have lyca
ember bane
@faint quest my shemira dies quickly 😥
faint quest
Eye works better when she doesnt have the blade yet other than that blade works wonders once u get it so when she casts the ult it'll destroy everyone due to +1% dmg each 3 sec @bitter kernel
ember bane
Tasi asleep Shmeria and Nemora charms Niru/ Fareal
faint quest
Sooo nem needs to charm ferael 100% or else u have to restart once she does, ferael has to terrify 3 specific people (iirc) that are Niru, shemira, grezhul. (not ferael himself) then rng from there so it'll take some tries @ember bane
ember bane
bitter kernel
@clear saddle gotcha. I don't run Lyca, so I guess that would make sense
pale kettle
vestal island
Shld I get shemira or nemora for my lineup and with an epic+ belinda coming as rewards what shld my lineup look like? Shld i prioritise the faction boost
pale kettle
What's The best lineup with thesw?
faint quest
Depends on the stages yo there isn't exactly one best lineup for every stage @pale kettle
ember bane
@vestal island Rosaline works well with Shemira
vestal island
ah but would rosaline follow my shemira since my saveas have higher str
bitter kernel
Rosaline works well with saveas too
sharp heron
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clear saddle
@bitter kernel not really lol. His ult has a long cd. Better with Belinda or Shem
bitter kernel
True, but an attack rating buff on saveas is always welcome. Maybe not as good for him as for those two, but it's still good
faint quest
I mean even without rosaline when he uses his ult he gets back to full energy but his ult is still up so I don't think rosaline works well with him tbh
bitter kernel
Fair enough. I haven't used him...probably since level 80 so I honestly forgot about that part 🙄
I don't thing Rosaline will even ult if energy is full. Will she ult while his ult is active?
slow kiln
still stuck on 9-32, reset everything out of frustration. What comp should I use ?
fleet hawk
Any help
slow kiln
Lucius, Brutus , Nemora , Belinda .. and someone or something completely else ?
mental forum
Any help 17-24? Can't seem to charm ferael
bitter kernel
@@mental forum Switch Lyca with Arden and hope that's enough cc to slow them down?
tribal oasis
@slow kiln lucius brutus belinda arden rosaline
tribal oasis
Or if you need more cc lucius saveas (overlevel) arden lyca tasi
Rosaline follows the highest power hero. She can be used with a high aoe hero like belinda or mirael for multiple ultimates in a short time. Or if lucius is highest power for lots of shields.
onyx basin
19-20 got me pretty hard
tribal oasis
@slow kiln try and get your pentagram to 101 at least.
forest hedge
any help pls
zinc wren
Any advice for 219?
bitter kernel
@zinc wren Fawkes is going to be your best friend. Probably replace Nemora. The charm honestly is no good here. If Tasi can ult before the trees take root, keep her. Otherwise she's only ok. Goal is to kill at least two before they root
fierce kayak
@onyx basin this?
signal canopy
Been trying this mission for an hour and a half someone find me a team. Spent about 5 hours total to get this far in this event don’t say start over for better relics because I did that a billion times and the first choke point in this map is hard AF.
Would win this battle if there was no time limit
hot topaz
You got tasi? If not try lyca
onyx basin
@fierce kayaka yess
ember bane
This 16-20 is pain in the a....
craggy plaza
runic flicker
Anyone?
bitter kernel
@runic flicker you'll probably want to point Nara at either Isabella or Nemora. I'm a little concerned about your damage, since Raine probably doesn't last long there. With Nara and Belinda in slots 3 and 4, you could try Thane in 5 to try to juggle the Vedan. Or if Rosaline is doing well enough keeping her alive, put Belinda up front
runic flicker
Thane is getting blown up instantly
brisk tapir
neon sinew
@runic flicker I'd say mess around with moving nara in front of Isabella/Nemora. I haven't used Rosaline myself so idk how good she is early but definitely moving raine out of the front line and maybe out of the line up. The comp you're facing doesn't seem like one you'll be able to get the machine gun belinda dream off of. I'd imagine messing with Ogi/Hendrik/Hogan in place of Raine would do better. Probably place Lucius in front of Vedan/Vurk and hope he places his shield before they pop him giving him those energy gains. So if I were to give a comp I'd probably go: Tank, Lucius, Belinda, Nara, Rosaline (Or Nemora if you've got a 3rd light bearer)
crude shuttle
19-20 help pls
north pelican
Y’all think ferael mythic is good?
ember bane
@crude shuttle that's not 19-20
crude shuttle
@ember bane 9-20 sry😂
viral topaz
Any suggestions: I could make my first LB legendary (Estrilda, Hogan or Belinda) I also have Fawkes as elite. I would like Hendrik,Lucio or Rowan for LB legendary. Is it better to make Hogan for food later on, or Belinda/Estrilda I wouldn't probably feed them later ?
Or should I wait for fawkes, lucio, rowan etc and save hogan as E+ food
ember bane
@crude shuttle u need to kill Vedan fast
And lvl your Saveas to 160
@fierce kayak Niru always survives n kill Shemira 😡
fierce kayak
@ember bane ya.. I also kept trying till RBG Gods shines at me
plucky flint
This look optimal for 18–12?
fierce kayak
@ember bane I use eye on lyca, grace on Arden.
But I think most important is tasi and Shemira which is what I used. I use eye on Shemira before chap 18/19. After 19 I use blade on Shem.
frigid dagger
@brisk tapir dude, theres no reason to make all ur heroes lvl 200, if u make shem 220 then lvl up brutus as much as u can and use lyca tasi nemora/arden 180 u can clear that chapter
If u do that then use top down shemira brutus top down nemora lyca arden
gloomy crest
Vedan always end slaying my last standing men >.>
I'll add Arden to my team tomorrow probably when I get my crystal slot, do you think I can pass with my current team?
clearly my Nemora is here to buy a little time because she'll instantly die to the assassin, but I rather see her die than someone else
limpid quail
@gloomy crest there is no vedan on your screenshot, if you mean niru, then try putting saveas to bottom so he kills him when he walks up close to attack brutus
gloomy crest
oh ok ye, I meant Niru, I tried doing that but he can't kill him and my Kaz then gets destroyed because she has no more damage to help her >.>
I tried messing around with the positions and I find that this one has the most chance of success, but well, 20 tries, always end the same when my heroes survive, they die to Niru
Ok, I've just read how Niru work, you're right I have to take him out first, I'll need to find a way... thanks
south herald
@plucky flint u should use nem instead of tasi imo
fierce kayak
@south herald wth mate.. your name
south herald
Im Aero’s student... duhhh
fierce kayak
I also wanna list my mentors in my name.. but too long..
We all are
craggy coral
Someone please help me😢 the opp team saveas is a real pain in the ass😤
fierce kayak
She know you change to this name?
hard basin
Who should I pick for my choice card?
south herald
@craggy coral try
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Hogan
Nemora
south herald
@fierce kayak ofc she knows lol
@hard basin u cant go wrong with wilder but in the early game u can pick anything
fierce kayak
Aero/temo is pro.. no worries @craggy coral
south herald
Dont say that cuz the comp might not work xd
fierce kayak
Haha.. I believe he understands gotta try and error.
hard basin
So I just stick to light/wilder?
south herald
@hard basin i say some graveborn r very strong and wilder/light r mostly support but they can work too
limpid quail
@hard basin you only want to level top5 heroes btw, reset the others to get ressources for your main heroes
hard basin
Oh. But what about the faction buff?
south herald
Faction buff r kinda important but i think a good team with no buff can still do well @hard basin
hard basin
Okay.
I'll get Brutus then.
Or I'm just gonna save it till my 6th day to see if I get an Elite and go from there.
fathom nexus
Any tips will be greatly appreciated Brutal Citadel Stage 40
south herald
@fathom nexus try
Khasos
Warek
Saveas
Brutus
Sphinx chick
Ur team is definitely underlevel but u can try
fathom nexus
If levels are a problem I'll hold until I mythic, dont really wanna level up my core. I dont even kno why
craggy coral
@south herald not working 😢. The opp team saveas kills hogan instantly. Who should i give duras drape,grace,call and eye if that helps in any way
south herald
@craggy coral switch brutus and hogan’s position
fathom nexus
Currently waiting on another brutus and a free wilders before leveling
Current wilder box
craggy coral
@south herald waww it worked. Thnx bruh otherwise i would i have been stuck for weeks there😘
south herald
@fathom nexus a lot of good heroes! Def focus on getting some wilders imo
@craggy coral nah its ur team bruh i did nothing... i just guided u a bit
fathom nexus
@south herald thanks and that's my main focus atm
limpid quail
that is true patience @fathom nexus others would have already ascended everything 😄
fathom nexus
@limpid quail lol yeah my guildmates were in disbelief told me to push ascension, I'll clear chapter 16 at some point. My pulls wont be bad forever lol
pale kettle
Someone Tried to make team with Numisu+Rowan+Belinda+Estrilda+Lucius?
south herald
@pale kettle that team has great support but lacks dps imo
pale kettle
Umm... So its a bad idea? >.<
south herald
@pale kettle maybe saveas instead of numisu
limpid quail
i think belinda ult can do decent damage, and in a prefect world with rowan filling the energy she will have ult after ult
south herald
@pale kettle shemira/ ferael maybe?
limpid quail
or fawkes for the full faction bonus
south herald
Fawkes is not good dps and belinda is only burst... If ur belinda dies too quickly u lose
pale kettle
I didnt get any shemira for month
limpid quail
buy her in the lab store every month
south herald
@pale kettle i mean people usually buy her from lab every month
pale kettle
I'm playing like for month+~~
south herald
I mean Saveas is the best hero pre 161 @pale kettle and hes easy to get so u can use him before shem
pale kettle
XD I have savaes RARE~~
south herald
@pale kettle hes ez to get just wait
sly sparrow
Need help with 10-4 please
crude shuttle
@ember bane im killing vedan pretty fast but then brutus is instant dying after vedan and grez/lucius almost every1 dying so quick against grez
limpid quail
@crude shuttle you can try switching in nemora for belinda
south herald
@sly sparrow ur kinda underlevel i feel like u would need a 141 brutus on this one
sly sparrow
@south herald i spent all exp on saveas D: plus my brutus is only L he cant go further
south herald
Thats the right choice now its the waiting game
@sly sparrow its definitely beatable if u lvl up the rest of ur team just wait for now is the best choice imo
south herald
Xd
limpid quail
@crude shuttle well that wasnt nemora for belinda, but for rosaline 😄 And I said try, I didnt say it will work 😛
vestal gate
south herald
@pale kettle try arden bot instead of tasi
@vestal gate i use athalia instead of lyca to stop arden and i had a brutus when i beat the stage
pale kettle
Took a few goes and a 1v1 with Shem v Niru but it worked, ty @south herald !
oak lance
Any suggestions on this level? Kinda stuck
south herald
@oak lance try
Nem
Lyca
Arden
Lucius
Saveas
ember bane
@fierce kayak at last succeed
vernal berry
I...
south herald
@vernal berry
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi
Maybe?
vernal berry
Lucius can 1 shot my lucius
fierce kayak
@ember bane Gratz bro
south herald
@vernal berry thats like one of the hardest lineup to go up against and i have no clue what to do
south herald
@vernal berry good luck is all i can say
south herald
@pale kettle try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
pale kettle
hey thanks it worked
rancid sundial
Please help
south herald
@rancid sundial try Kelthur in Ferael’s place
pale kettle
I don't think i can ever beat this
south herald
@pale kettle nem should be facing the enemy nem and arden should face arden xd
pale kettle
16-40, when lucky arden can get 2-3 roots off, best tasi ult had the whole team alive. That ogi is a problem when throwing tasi doing major damage, but her bring frontline helps regain energy fast. Call on tasi
south herald
@pale kettle
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
U can try switching brutus and shem around im not sure what work best
shell turret
@pale kettle I did this with a similar team, I ended up bringing Lyca and Shem frontline and swapping out Brutus for Nem
pale kettle
@south herald even then i lose ahah
south herald
@pale kettle these wilder stage r actually imo the rng stage where u need incredible luck xd
haughty cloud
@pale kettle just rng, if your nemora taunts enemy nemora you have the greatest chance to win
pale kettle
eeh that's... fun 
south herald
My experience of chap 20 is rng to beat full wilders
ember bane
@fierce kayak 19-28 Need advice plz ty
ember bane
Thanks
rancid sundial
This level is too hard
south herald
@rancid sundial in early game when ur stuck just afking a bit would help imo
ember bane
@south herald Silvana jumps upon Nemora only how does it work
south herald
@ember bane makes nem jump on tasi make her have lower def
shell turret
@rancid sundial Yeah tanks are under leveled really, backline are going to get crushed as soon as they're down
fierce kayak
@ember bane hope this helps buddy
ember bane
@south herald if def lowerTasi dies 1 shot😡
violet pecan
Nemora and arden are not fast enough to charm opponent arden or root....
south herald
@ember bane i switch gears up to try and just get it slightly lower than nem but u can try @fierce kayak ‘s lineup if u want
@violet pecan try using
Athalia
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi/Nem
violet pecan
@south herald
south herald
Nice! @violet pecan welcome to the pain that is chap 20
vestal island
Can get shemira or nemora (epic+) ,since I have 1 epic already ,from lab and day 7 reward for epic+ belinda soon. How shld I set my team up? Do I change it completely and ignore the faction bonus I have now
south herald
@vestal island first of all ur comp only have one tank which is a major flaw and ur kinda underlevel... I think the positioning r def ok but the lack of frontline hurts u pretty badly
simple helm
I can't figure out how to beat this stage
vestal island
Ah ic what do u suggest I do or change @south herald ?
south herald
@vestal island I suggest u afk a bit for now and keep playing.. u will get a tank sooner or later
vestal island
ok tyvm
south herald
@simple helm first of all I think Hogan works better than Lucius in ur case... u might want to do something like
Arden
Lucius
Saveas
Hogan
Rosaline
@violet pecan im on the 54th camping cuz im lazy xd
violet pecan
@south herald use macro retry
south herald
@violet pecan Ik i can beat it and im not doing that lol that kinda beat the point of the game
lucid carbon
Simple to strong for my Hero’s? Or should i change my lineup (8-40)
indigo jolt
18 40 thoughts?
south herald
@lucid carbon ur Rosaline dont have a good carry to hook on too just yet imo i would wait for Saveas atm just afk a bit for lvls
lucid carbon
I will thanks!
south herald
@indigo jolt i dont remember the entire thing but i think I did
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Tasi
pseudo bear
@indigo jolt Can nemora charm arden fast enough or did she get ogi stunned first?
real jolt
@south herald what’s the most optimal team i can have
south herald
@real jolt frontline should be Hogan and Brutus but hogan only work in the early game so u will replace him with grezhul lucius etc later. For backline u need dps such as Saveas for early game and Shemira can be frontline dps for lvl 161+ support like arden, raine and rosaline r very good too
real jolt
can u make a team for me real quick
south herald
@real jolt something like
Saveas
Hogan
Rosaline
Brutus
Raine
U should lvl up only ur top 5 heroes btw
Because u will have spots on resonating crystal to use
real jolt
who should be my top 5 heroes 😮
south herald
Its usually ur highest ascended one but in the early game just who u use most
real jolt
also is resonating crystal worth spending the golden coin things on to open slots
south herald
The golden coin thing is only for resonating crystal so yes spend all u want
real jolt
ohhhh okay thank you!! and should i use tasi instead of rosaline
south herald
Rosaline boost ur attack Tasi is for a meta comp i say rosaline is easier to use @real jolt
fierce kayak
@pale kettle you can try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
I mostly use 4 Wilders vs Wilders team. Or sometimes vs GB team.
candid orbit
Hello people, looking for some advice
Currently lined up like this, hit a bit of a wall at 6-24 and floor 68
topaz wadi
@summer hatch try grezhul and lyca in front and replace belinda with Arden
fierce kayak
south herald
@candid orbit Btw if ur looking for help a full screenshot of the stage will allow people to help u even more!
candid orbit
Can do this but don’t know if I really have a backup for Hogan
fierce kayak
@summer hatch ^ you can refer to the 3 pics I uploaded and see which one works for u
south herald
dont do that @candid orbit U might want to get L+ hogan later on
topaz wadi
Not yet @candid orbit
summer hatch
Nice thanks
candid orbit
Oh right Aero, here’s the stage
My thought process was to keep Lucius away from Brutus to make sure I can keep his regen shield up, Rosaline attaches to him so I’ve got regen most of the time
south herald
@candid orbit atm ur comp is underlevel that is kinda a big problem u might want to afk a bit for higher character lvls maybe?
fierce kayak
@summer hatch for the 3rd pic which is mine. Tasi bait silv
candid orbit
I had a feeling that was going to be the answer, every 4th stage has been a real struggle to get through recently and this seems to be the one that’ll stop me. I’ll come back to it tomorrow and see what I can do
summer hatch
Wish I had a higher Brutus. Been unlocked on only got one and got it through the rewards.
topaz wadi
Buy Brutus with rewards during event. It’s a slow but steady way to ascend him. Since he doesn’t like me it’s what I did
eager vault
What lineup brings the potential of my heroes?
dense dew
Stuck on 9-28
shell turret
@dense dew Try Putting Sav opposite Isabella to take her out and swapping nem for Arden
dense dew
Khosas is just melting up there
fierce kayak
@eager vault I think you lack tank. Consider make Hogan L+ and pair with Lucius as tank for now? Then Savaes Arden and one more Light hero.
dense dew
But I got done should I just keep going with that comp then?
indigo jolt
@pseudo bear After experimenting around with gear, Nemora can't charm enemy arden unless arden roots ogi. Further, doing so means enemy arden is faster than my nemora. So can't have double root.
eager vault
Mmk
Thx @fierce kayak I appreciate it
Also @fierce kayak since ur probably a pro what's better shemira or belinda
shell turret
@dense dew Swap Khasos for Hogan, he isn't a tank and doesn't provide much leech until 141
fierce kayak
@eager vault I am not a pro 🙂
Depends on roster and what stage of the game. But generally of cos Shemira is top tier hero. But she really comes online from 161 onwards.
eager vault
Oh ok oof
What about mid-game
still pilot
HEEEELP 12-8
humble egret
@eager vault belinda is pretty strong mid-game, pair her with rosaline and she ults so much. Belinda also gets stronger at late-game but shem is best 161+
south herald
@still pilot Ira should be in belinda’s place the comp looks pretty solid
still pilot
It worked awesome but Ulmus died fast and there was 2 enemies left
I switched Ulmus for Kaz and it worked thx for the help
eager vault
Thx @humble egret
coral frigate
i get bursted so fast
south herald
@coral frigate i say
Tasi
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
May work better or maybe put in 2 lb supports instead of the wilders
coral frigate
what is lb support? that comp gets bursted too
south herald
@coral frigate Lightbearer support like belinda rosaline etc
If that get burst too quickly u might want to level up ur tank a little bit
coral frigate
ok thank u
honest storm
Any help?
south herald
@honest storm ur at the early stage of the game u can usually afk then pass the stage later but if u want to u can switching Arden and Shemira’s position
honest storm
Gonna try that, thanks!
fierce kayak
@eager vault mid usually means 160 to 240. You referring this?
south herald
@inland kite Voyage lineup is very hard to do all i can think of is maybe try nem in the middle spot instead?
eager vault
I can't beat this... Little help plz
south herald
@eager vault arden instead of kelthur
edgy surge
How do i deal with the warek beating
inland kite
yeah i decided to start over
south herald
@edgy surge The enemy comp is symmetrical so adjusting ur current comp wont work... maybe try nemora instead of arden?
edgy surge
Shall i look for any specific charm? Also arden seems vital to root enemy khasos before axes but ill try
eager vault
Yayyy thx @south herald
pale rover
@edgy surge Shem Grezhul (if you have him) front, if not keep Brutus. Back is Lyca Tasi and Nemora
south herald
@pale rover ty sensei
pale rover
@south herald 
Warek is always a pain in the ass when you go up against him
south herald
@pale rover ikr xd all i can think of for him is use nem not arden
pale rover
That's correct though. Because Arden will keep activating the Warek shields
south herald
Ye that was my thought process xd
inland kite
i think its relics that are the deal breaker in vow
edgy surge
Elite+ grezh only atm @pale rover
inland kite
well for me
pale rover
You can use Brutus or Lucius. See which one works better for you
pearl basin
Any suggestions? 22-42
edgy surge
Shemira gets pooped from golus and warek flip in frontline, barely ults, shall I give her Grace instead of Blade for survivability?
pale rover
@pearl basin Passed that with Shem Brut front 240 then back was Tasi Lyca Nemora 220. Tons of tries.
pseudo bear
@pale rover Gratz on reaching 23 ! 
pale rover
@pseudo bear Thank you! It's even worse than 22 somehow 
south herald
Ooo gratz aero
pearl basin
@pale rover Fair enough but my Tasi is only Elite lol, never got her from any where before
south herald
Tasi doesnt really need ascension lol
pale rover
@pearl basin To be honest I'm not sure who I would put there in place of Tasi because that stage was quite difficult for me. I was stuck there for a fair bit
edgy surge
Made it thanks to shem backline and lyca frontline dodged a lot ty @pale rover @south herald
pearl basin
@pale rover Ok, I'll have to wait for longer to progress then I guess! Thanks for the info any way! 😃
pale rover
@edgy surge Very nice, congratulations! If you're also up against several Wilders (Kaz, Ogi frontliners) you can do the same tactic and put Lyca in front with Shemira behind Brutus.
@pearl basin Good luck, I hope you get more Tasi.
hushed girder
@pale rover with out shem lucius and lyca what can i do?
pearl basin
@pale rover Cheers! xD
south herald
@hushed girder try
Belinda
Hogan
Twin
Brutus
Saveas
pale rover
@hushed girder That's tough.
You can try:
Nemora (charm Isabella to help with dps)
Ulmus
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
It's the lack of ascensions that are hurting you
south herald
O that make more sense... Ye try that
edgy surge
@pale rover help :3