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Can someone please help me with this stage 😩 (18-40)
@sudden sparrow thanks I'll give it a shot
@vivid nymph Try it out, it's not like you have to reset Isabella anyway, but please do this: reset Brutus, Saveas, Nemora, Eironn. Then with the resources upgrade Ira, Belinda and Angelo (at least until you ascend Saveas to E+, then reset Angelo and upgrade Saveas). Put Brutus, Saveas, Nemora and Isabella (or anyone else instead is Isabella) so your Elite heroes can surpass their "level100 limit"
thanks mate
@river lily Do Shemira and Brutus kill Ogi?
Any help? Still at early levels and I want to know which ones are best lineup for now
@river lily use this formation for 18-40... Keep trying until you beat it
kk
@steep trail
Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Hogan
Nemora
Try that team comp for now
@river lily you can try this too.
Appreciated
Any advice on a better team comp? Or is this ok
Help haha
Saveas + Vedan is destroying me
@jolly jackal
Saveas/Estrilda
Lucius
Rowan
Hendrick
Saveas/Estrilda
This should give you the Faction advantages so you team last longer even if overlevel a bit for the enemies
@steep trail level up Saveas to lvl 100 and your tanks as high as you can rn
@oblique phoenix the problem I see is leveling but try this comp:
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Shemira (level Shemira and Tasi up and try using Tasi/Shemira combo
@sudden sparrow thanks i will try it
Looking to get the most on Guild Hunts. Any suggestions?
@lucid flax Check the tier lists on AFKARENA.net, see their combos and read about it. All Lightborn is good for Wrizz, Belinda, Estrilda, Lucius Thane (and I use Athelia) for 5th bonus
@lucid flax brutus nemora lucius belinda rosaline in that order
@sudden sparrow By that do you mean I'm underleveled or my characters aren't leveled optimally?
@sudden sparrow by gorvus u mean gorvo right?
Brotus isn't that good for guild bosses
@oblique phoenix Both
@kind nest Warek it's better but he got no L or L+ warek to use him, so Brutus' roar should be fine for now
I use Belinda, Estrilda, Fawkes, Thane & Lucius fine for Wrizz
@sudden sparrow Ok, should I reset anyone and level up?
@oblique phoenix You should level your highest tier heros, and put the others at the crystal (For maximum power across all heros)
@oblique phoenix I'd say Saveas, get him to 141 and try to get both Shemira and Tasi to 141 as well, then, focus on Saveas again
Stuck on 15-40. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.
@pale kettle Lightbearers not good against Graveborns 
So transfer some wilders?
@sudden sparrow I was able to get Shem to 141 and Tasi to 140, I'll try the two of them together
I just beat 15-40 yesterday, message me @pale kettle it took a bunch of RNG lol
@oblique phoenix Did it worked?
ahhh yes, 15-40. I remember the pain I had to go through on that stage
@sudden sparrow I think I'm just underleveled, I'll try again in a few days
Keep leveling those 3 until they hit their cap
If anyone is stuck on 16-12, I used this combo to beat it.
Kelthur E
Brutus M
Athalia L
Gorvo E+
Shemira M
message me for details if needed
I've hit a wall at 16-40. Anyone available to talk?
HALP mah dudes
I HATED chapter 11, but I just beat that level on my mini @bright geyser message me
Just tell me here xD
It can be a lot to type when factoring in duras items and stuff
Oh I didn’t even look at your formation whoops @bright geyser try using Tasi instead of Nemora. I usually use Nemora and Tasi or Arden and Tasi.
If I don't use Nemora that Sav fucks me
Arden probably needs to wrap Saveas at least twice
Try putting him him the middle and see what happens lol
@frank summit Should probably show lineup you're facing too.
Optimal setup?
@kind nest Whoops!
Who does fawkes cage? Kaz?
No one, actually.
what?
Ogi to fat to fit in coffin?
Arden CCs quicker.
Well he does after a while?
He dies too quick to cast, and that's using a mythic friend.
Hmm what is your best try?
Abysmal. I can prolong the fight to 25 seconds but I can't get any damage off through the CC.
Fawkes removes the roots with his Ulti tho, hmm Guess you may have to level a bit.
I'm tempted to cannibalize Grezhul into M+ Shemira and equip Brutus.
I use Grezul to kill Wrizz in hardmode, so unless you have another copy of him, I wouldn't recommend it
Who should I ascend?
Wait for more fodder @merry scarab
The only ascended tier hero I’d use as fodder is Skreg 🙃 (kidding...kinda)
Would I just be better off with a better Brutus friend?
@merry scarab as soon as you get another elite+ graveborn fodder, ascend baden. he's good for wrizz guild boss
Longer frontline would probably give Shemira enough time to setup.
Grezhul good too @quartz tree (if not better)
@frank summit Yes, Brotus ultimade would probably help a lot
He doesn't have a grezhul does he
hi kinda stuck, what should i use?
Just saying
Don’t ascend heroes unless u can get them straight to L+ pls
Anyone got a decent idea of a comp I could go for? Feels like I dont have much great and can't get a lot of things above 100 due to rarity
@edgy oyster spend all of your Lab tokens on Shemira. She’s worth it. Whenever she’s at a higher ascension, make her 20 levels above everyone else. She and Lucius can go in the front. Belinda, Arden, and Rosaline or Raine in the back. Rosaline needs to be behind Shemira if you use her
Aight thanks a ton 😄
No problem!
I’m blind and didn’t see your Saveas. He’s also a great hero for mid game
your power is a 70% higher?
can someone help just a bit above^
Anybody help with soren setup?
Can anyone help? This is the setup that has worked the best so far
im stuck on this level, help please?
@oak lance have you tried Lucius and Shemira in the front; Arden, Lyca, Nemora in the back?
@gilded walrus just did worked mighty well, thanks
Nemora or aren?
@oak lance glad to help!
@balmy saffron depends on level most of the time. Arden is VERY good through levels 141-160. Nemora is pretty consistent no matter what level.
@amber mango need help with 16-40? think i had ss
what's ss
screenshot
oh yeah i could use some help
k lemme see what i got. btw what comp are you running? shem?
18-14 any tips?
Think that was the one? @amber mango
you have lyca? the positioning on the list is exactly how they are in there. Brutus 1, shem 2, nemora behind brutus lyca middle and arden back
yes i have lyca, what is the order of your units?
And nemora*?
i have atleast one of every unit in the game
dont need tasi for this one i dont think
Yea u dont i remembered u replace her for nem
yeah u charm the nemora and she charms the ogi
Try
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Arden(how i beat it) @amber mango
yep, u just need good rng. also put dura's eye on arden or have good boots so he roots first 😃
got it gimme a bit ill mess around
k gl
yeah ive got blade
Do you have blade? if so put that on shem, put drape on brutus and whatever on the rest
earlier today, i did two graveborn multis with shem only on my wish list because i only need one more to get her to ascended and got all blue/greens for both multis -.-
Yeet gratz! :)
nice gratz. chapter 17 should be a walk in the park. chapter 18 is where shit hits the fan lol
aight thanks so much
np if you need help i might be here
kk
What stage r u on? @clear saddle
20-4
Anyone know why Thane is not rated S on tier lists, am I missing something? along with brutus, shemira and tasi, he's probably my best character at lv180 - or should i really stop focusing on him?
Dang howd u get past this one? T_T @clear saddle
do you have Athalia? if you have her put her directly opposite of Arden that should help
@faint quest ah theres another one of these at 19-38. you can use athalia but if you have 4 star mythic boots on nemora. you can charm the arden before he roots and he will root his team. replace arden with nemora. put shemira top against kaz and brutus against the ogi
tuesday, what determines whether you get to charm or not? you said boots, for example, which stat is it?
btw, does using arden ult waste time for him to root? i usually hold off auto when he gets close because i want his constant roots
Alright cool will try
@neon sleet its the movement speed or (casting speed) if your nemora has faster casting speed then she can cast charm before the arden casts root
wow i see, but then, so if your speed is higher you will always charm or is it still RNG?
its rng on who it charms, but if you have 4 star boots or higher you should always charm first
thx a lot that's good to know :D
Yep, i had a fucking hard time at 19-38 against that setup. i had to swap my shems boots because this game doesnt give me any more
I actually did it
, since they had Lyca my nem was too slow to charm arden so replaced her with arden
how do you guys put what stage you're on, onto your name? also congrats @faint quest
nice! and you didnt use nemora. ouch
Didnt need her this one surprisingly im so scared of 19-20 thouhh

19-20 was ok, 19-36 is a pain, 19-38 is like BRUHHH Moment
@neon sleet you can do it by changing your nickname
Now ik that 19-20+ will be the stages ill have a mental breakdown with
🤠
yep best of luck, ive got some ss but you need some rng 😉
I need rngesus by my side tbh ill ping when i get there thx bro @clear saddle
k gl 😃
Need some help ):
Stuck 6-32
Put that saveas in the Crystal then try
Shemira
Lyca
Rosaline
Thoran
Saveas
@spice estuary
Halp
Any besides saveas and Shem that I should put focus into? Not sure who is fodder and who isn't
why does this team continue to wipe my ass
Any suggestions? Can’t kill Ezizh
Hey, just wondering what heroes should I focus on ascending for GB, whos worth sacrificing etc
Who is better for upgrade? Lucius or Belinda. And help with team pls
Well, how i beat that ? Should i use arden ?
Halp please
You should probably show lineup, where they are placed...
@kind nest max Sav and place bot. Must kill Vedan first.
Lucius can tank top? So that Brutus can be bot with sav
Brotus smashes Lucius
@karmic compass it's better to show enemy position. Place nemora mirror fereal to charm him. Reset if charm fails
@kind nest with Nemora charm should buy time to kill Vedan first?
Else.. still Sav bottom. If Vedan ulti it's gg
IF Nemora doesn't charm isabella, she smashes me
Who do you think I should swap out for nemora
@kind nest fakes coffin who?
Fereal --> Then brotus
@karmic compass stick to meta team. Don't change.
Tasi (bait silv)
Brutus
Nemora
Shem
Arden/lyca
Try this first. All can change except nemora. Play around see what works best
@kind nest fakes coffin Brutus then isn't it ok? Kill bot first and wit for Brutus out.
I missing something? Sorry ^_^
I dont even have an elite tasi :(
He coffins brotus 2nd, so like 15-20 sec into fight @fierce kayak
I’ve made 7 accounts and can’t find a tasi
@kind nest ic
Who would be a good replacement for tasi
@kind nest but I would still reset and make Sav 160. U hate him? I saw u rather 169 fawkes.. haha
Fawkes makes good damage too and he is Mythic
Nemora does not need so high level too.
It doesn't work that way. Heroes matter more than ascension imho.
@kind nest
So I find that numisu is like crazy good for me. Provides a bunch of healing plus countless times enemies have wasted ults on his combat totems face away from my guys. Does he translate into late gameplay well. And if so what are some good synergies with him?
I agree, But fawkes is in fact pretty good DPS too, and Sav wont be alive long enough to ramp up damage to out dps Fawkes
I imagine numisu would be awesome lategame especially with full signature item. Doubles the hp of totems, which not only makes for more annoying distractions but also makes his ult do more damage (if more totems survive yeah) also his totems at battle start can take some fatal attacks like warek throw or thane lunge and stuff
Ya that's what I am talking about he totems take hit and ults all the time. I currently have him paired with Rosaline and he ults healing everyone and pinging the combat totems. She ults fully recovers his energy and he ults again fully healing my team and pining the combat totems again in a matter of like 5 seconds
Yea 17-24 is impossible for me
Drops any backline caster in seconds with triple effect from combat totems he drops back there.
@kind nest erm.. have you tried before? 160 fawkes vs Sav?
True, numisu + rosaline seems like a cool combo
Any suggestions on how to get past 23-10
Some how beat 17-24
Any help would be appreciated
I’d appreciate any opinions
Gud 4 u bro @karmic compass
they hitting me with mythics already and i dont even have L+'s yet legit feeling like a p2w rn 😤 (9-20) they stomp me pretty hard even though i've been farming every day and i dont feel like i can just beat it tomorrow or something
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shemira @karmic compassouch....
i dont have tasi ;'(
gl with that

ive done fine without her
Anyone know how I can beat this? I havr been stuck for a while now 😅
@pale kettle
This is my setup right now
Any advice?
try this for 9-20 @pale kettle
Stuck
I’m stuck on 6-20 😳
@violet pecan I cleared that yesterday with same team took forever but I had the backline being lyca Tasi Nemora and then just restarted until Nemora charms ira
Any advice would be appreciated 😊
@inner sparrow your gonna need a tank in the number 1 spot, and preferably more lightbearers.
Make luscious my tank?
yeah, and put Estril at 2
Or I could put hogan in the crystal???
you can try Hogan, I don't use him at all personally
Oh ok, so I take tasi out
or take lyca out
Lol I died really fast
try it and then switch. keep moving them around and see what gets you the closest to endgame
or just sit and farm exp till you can get through it. your members are pretty low level for the stage your at
@inner sparrow hogan is better tank at lower lvl so use him instead of estrilda
I think I’m gonna have to farm cause all my heroes die extremely fast while all of theirs are still nearly full health
16-40 in this setup Shemira survives and uses her main skill need advice ty
@ember bane switch nemora with arden, so nemora charms kaz should help, other than that, u could try puting shemira first slot and the switch out lyca for tasi not sure if its gonna help
If anyone has any advice I’ll be willing to try it
@inner sparrow hogan first slot, tasi backline, and u dont need lyca
Didn’t work, they’re all still pretty high health @grizzled yew
Anything i should change or just wait for the borrow hero thing?
@dreamy flicker ogi in front of vedan, grezhul in front of brutus backline shemira, nemora baden
@dusky sage try putting shemira in front of khazoz, and using nara behind shemira to hook ira, brutus in front of ogi
Kinda stuck rn
Swap saveas for shemira
Opinions certainly will be appreciated
@grizzled yew tried it, didn't work but thanks anyway 😊
@inner sparrow
Arden
Luicus
Lyca
Saveas
Tasi
@dreamy flicker try saving grezhul right before brutus ults, so he attacks minions behind him woth ult
I didn’t win but it’s the closest I’ve gotten. Thanks @runic tundra
keep redo until win.
I’m closer but still have about 3 left to defeat. I don’t think rng is gonna work
Any idea
Guys. Im stuck on 19-38 for 2 weeks. I can either level up 4th hero to level 200 or one to 220. What do you advice?
if not , change your lucius to saveas @inner sparrow
if your saveas can finish golus off.
He can’t. I’ll just farm until I win but thanks for the help 😊 @runic tundra
always max your Saveas that boots and helmet.
Need some suggestions for 17-24.
@grizzled yew grez doesnt survive long enough to ult, and nemora can't heal fast enough. Equipment swapped and all that
@runic tundra
Hi, newbie here, currently at 5-12, progressing very slowly... what team comp should I be working on?
I was able to pass that level because I made savaes my carry but I’m no expert trust me
Wait for a pro’s opinion lol
I did some research just now and people really seem to hype up savaes... I wonder who else to pair him with tho
Yeah he’s really good for us beginners @jagged gazelle
I think I would reset ira and level up sav but you should confirm with someone else cause again, I’m a noob too
Stuck 😫
i mean you passed this stage, so your advices should work for now... so hogan rosaline warek angelo saveas for now? @inner sparrow i leveled angelo to have a bit of healing but he is honestly not doing much
If he isn’t doing@much reset him
Idk about the other heroes sorry, but I know savaes was the only reason I finished chapter 5. Just make sure you level him up a lot. Fennecki#7182 sorry I couldn’t help you more.
Thanks for taking your time to help me! maybe other people can chime in with some advice
@jagged gazelle you have OP Brutus , go make brutus 61... Rosaline , Estrilda , Mirael , Saveas
when you have lv 61 brutus , you can straight to 6 chapters
He's that strong?
yes. he is the strongest at early chapter if he is 61...
I've gotten to 6-40 with Grezhul, Lucius, Nemora, Belinda and Numisu
1 day - make brutus 61 , the rest 21. can straight 1 to 6 chapters.
Might need to replace some of them though cause I can't find doubles for ascension
Hi, can i have some help forming a lineup for both the guild hu t bosses
Maybe I can get an opinion or three haha
thanks! i actually rolled another brutus just now, so he is elite+ now. also i could get either silvina or vedan to elite... should i? @runic tundra
I cant roll a Brutus, I really want one
Help thanks
@jagged gazelle Silvina. if you have a question , talk in questions.
Any help here is appreciated, Brutus just destroys my team
6-32
https://i.imgur.com/kNPV1BW.png what lineup should i run with this? can make hogan legendary if needed
Cha cha real smooth
Help me out please
@regal swallow if you wanna use lucius and belinda than put fawkes instead of tasi
The main problem is vedan for me
@rugged marten @opal parcel
Can people recommebd good fighters
@left lintel as Kyree said, 180 Shem, 160 Brutus and x3 141's
Bait Silvina onto Tasi, you'll need Arden's root more
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
@left lintel ptw 🤓
https://i.imgur.com/RMbcvN9.png what should i be running? and which hero should i upgrade?
No one can help me out?
@brittle summit I can
@crude perch able to see my post from earlier?
Yes
Help pls !
if thats 16-40 i did that with arden/tasi/lyca/lucius/shemira
Yes 16-40
it took a couple tries but arden is a must to stop the enemy arden root
if you put lyca in the front, your arden roots before theirs
So lycas and lucius front ? I can use brutus insted of lucius or he is necessary ?
i didnt use brutus but you can try?
my shemira is only M so she needed lucius to survive
Lyca in front of ogi ?
yea arden root stops her from getting thrown
My arden root in the same time of the other arden
Pls help with line up and positions I get epic Hogan in a few hours
Hello guys, which should I choose as my fifth mythic and future ascended from challenger store. I thinking one between grezhul, numisu and Fawkes (I have the same amount of them). Which one is the best after introduce of signature items?
Grezhul
Help with stage and any tips on what to do/focus on would be appriciated
Been stuck here for dayss and seems like nothing works, any suggestion?
Any tips? Vedan keeps fucking me up
Try this;
Tasi
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Saveas @tame vigil
@rugged marten did it, thanks. I’ve tried out a lot of different combinations, idk whether I’ve tried this before but it worked on the third attempt 😃
Rng is a blessing and a curse
Any ideas? Tried Arden but it doesn't work
https://i.imgur.com/SLVvsmt.png what should i run with this?
Any advice? current line up is ghrezul belinda saveas lyca and lucius
also is it worth making a legendary ira or saving it for tasi once i get another tasi
13-36
@torpid quest silvina. Use silvina there is a 3 LB at the back.
@torpid quest do you have 6 heroes manually leveled??
yeah
if you reset brutus/lucius, in the short term you could get mirael to 160 and bump up the levels of your resonating crystal heroes
nvm do shem not mirael
so scrap lucius and brutus and level up shemira?
yeah, but you could still put them in the resonating crystal
then do shem and grez front lyca belinda saveas back?
yeah, if shem dies fast put lyca in front and move shem back, once she ults she probably kills everyone there
@pale kettle is your Nemora levelled up to 160? Reset her and dump all of the resources into Vurk or Belinda
@odd python thanks bud ill give it a shot , also this 30 second wait thing is annoying
@chrome cairn nem is one of my top5
@pale kettle it looks like you have a top 6. Are all 6 of your mythic levelled up?
@chrome cairn Vurk isnt
@odd python didnt work but its closer than usual
ah damn
@pale kettle ope. I missed that. At first glance I didn't see Vurk's discoloration.
@odd python swapped lyca for lucius in front and stomped them hard
All good mate @chrome cairn
nice, if you got them to 160 thru crystal thats probably helping a bit too
yeah i never thought of that lol thats like a loophole
its super handy and once you get 161s then all the ults of the ascended cap guys get buffed too
is there an updated tier list? i heard the other one is trash,
@pale kettle Have you tried a complete faction advantage team instead of Cc? Something like Lucius, Hendrik front line with a Seveas, Fawkes, Vurk backline?
@chrome cairn yep 🙃
Team for Voyage of wonders ?
stage 14-31. any suggestions?
Help, already 200 try ...
@vague kernel Lucius Thoran in front Shem Belinda Estridla in back
Can someone help me make a team for 11-36 its impossible
@valid depot arden instead of nem and put him bot side so
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
@still pilot stage screenshot and ur box pls so we can make u a lineup
Can someone help me make a team for11-36 its impossible
@vague kernel try
Tasi
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
And I have an alt that is stuck on 9-38
@still pilot screenshot of the stage too pls not just ur box
Please need help, 9-34
@still pilot dude Rosaline isnt a frontline hero
I know I dont have any beter lighbearers tank
ehh maybe use Brutus for now... it might break faction bonus but you need tankier frontline
The seavas kills him with 3 hits
@sly sparrow get ur Saveas L+ asap but for now on that stage put him behind brutus
@south herald that almost works. need to get an early ult for shem and I think it'll do. thanks
@sly sparrow also nem should be bot side
alright will try
Please someone help me make a team for 11-36
@still pilot Brutus instead of Rosaline and mirael instead of rowan
Need opinions on my lineup
@south herald agh not possible... Vedan and Saveas too op together
Teemo if I take out Rowan I will have no good healer he instantly heals 24k
And Miraela dies from Estrilda
@inner sparrow solid gud for early game
@sly sparrow I mean thats the best lineup i can provide u with... Just rng til enemy saveas get charm
@still pilot healer aint that important imo
got it. thanks @south herald
@south herald nevermind i won haha... thank you so much ♥
Imo it is
@still pilot I dont use any real healer until like chapter 19. But if u think ur team is already good then y r u asking for help lol
I'm asking for help cuz I know my team is good but they wont make it they die what ever I do
@still pilot ...... Just try the team i suggest and tell me how it goes
So Brutus Lucius Front line Back line Fawkes Belinda and Miraela
Yes mirael should be middle
Anybody have some suggestions for 15-40?
I did but she dies so I moved her to the 5th slot so the estrilda does run over her and does 34k damage and then she dies cuz theres an Angelo hitting her meanwhile
@south herald can this work or should i wait?
Anyone there can help
@south herald
@dense veldt screenshot of stage and ur box
Can someone help me with this account then
@upper path Ok so assuming that ur Tasi have the lowest defense she should 100% be behind Brutus. Try something like
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Mine looks better lol and I'm still failing @dense veldt
Lol I mean right
@dense veldt for u try
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Nem
And tell me what happens
Any ideas on this one?
@still pilot At a certain point I think you're going to have to accept you need to just AFK collect resources to level up. Your heroes are not max level yet, so they can always get stronger by waiting
@south herald tried that b4 problem is Isa One shots left Frontliner so Tasi dies so fast
@chrome cairn look these the Isabella and Vedan left at the end and my seavas dies at the end but the isabella has her op damage boost that I cant kill any of them
Like this isnt a boss level it's a notreal stage level and it's the 9-38 and that's why it should be easier
Ok @upper path @dense veldt I dont remember what i exactly did but i definitely beat it with 180shem tho maybe try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi?
@south herald high probability not with a team like ours with like a E+ Tasi u probably had Mythics
Tasi ascension does not matter and my was L and is still L at chap 20
@still pilot Yeah, well sometimes it's not easier. I got walled for almost a week by a non boss stage last month. If you be patient and level up your heroes, they'll be stronger. Do the dailies and get a summon or two per week and you might be able to ascend. This is a waiting game
Hi there! I’m looking for advices to defeat this lvl ! Someone can help me ?
I know that but look my problem isnt the levels the fact that I cant make a good team with my heroes
My levels are higher than my enemies so I'm fine with that
This line up is so good 😭😭
Lol if it's going to be a matter of resetting the game a good 999 times I'll just stick to afking until I can over level shem @south herald @dense veldt real life cutting it deep
😂 no joke
Fair enough I usually try for right rng so that might be why
Im almost at chapter 5 who is better savaes or vurk
@south herald problem is this is Hard Stuck like u can't kill one of them... U kill one if RNG is on ur side
@charred raven saveas... he will carry you a lot
@sly sparrow even if he isn’t epic?
@charred raven ah.... get him there yea
@dense veldt i beat the stage with M brutus and shem. L lyca, tasi and L+ Arden sooooo ye
I only have two :(
Any help is appreciated! I'm stuck :l
https://i.imgur.com/wYDMNml.jpg is this my best lineup or what should i use
Should I still replace vurk for savaes @sly sparrow I only have two of them
In actually so done with Isabella I hate her so much shes soooooooo annoying
YYEEEEESSSSS I BEATED THE LEVEL
@still pilot congrats mate
@still pilot where you at btw? like what chapter
9... I'm 9n my alt on y main I'm 11 and in 4 levels from 12
@sly sparrow I know you're OP xD are you able to give me any advice on the lineup I posted a few minutes ago? If not it's cool, I'm just super stuck lol
I hate graveborn and Wilder team together they are so annoying
@still pilot wilders are the worst
@fleet glade alright... im going to be honest with you kid 😄 im not experienced or op at all 😄 But I am glad you asked for my help, so i am will go with my subjective opinion... definitely start using saveas, he is a good hero and will carry you a lot... use your levels to further level your tanks, especially brutus... as for backline, mirael can really help you until chap 10, so i recomment using her too... her ultimate can sometimes wipe out a lot of enemies
That's true
@grizzled yew ehhh...
@cyan musk Take out tasi and put in Fakwes
I'm stuck at the tail end of chapter 15. Every combination I throw out seems to get obliterated before anything is accomplished.
@hearty sinew shemira and brutus frontline, arden, nemora and tasi backline
@iron cosmos Try
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Lyca
Nemora
I'm around stage 15-2 however I have hard time on the new advanture
Any suggestions?
I am slowly lasting a second or two longer, but Kelthur is still wasting my team in this elite battle from Voyage. Please advise!
@chrome cairn where ya at??
@chrome cairn consider Brutus for Lucius.
But key is drop tasi. Use nemora middle back charm fareal. Reset if fails.
@grizzled yew nice. Should add Shemira + Wilders vs Whole world.. ^_^
@fierce kayak Can u help me with something
Can u help me make a team to beat 9-40 on my alt
Dont mind my name... on the alt

Note: no ascendables will be harmed during the laddering of any heroes (as proven by how many copies of Thoran I have accumulated).
Since I already have one M class GB and because both are "shop heroes" so I can get more, should I:
- Ladder Grezhul since I already have four copies; or
- Wait to finish chapter 15 or buy 4th Shem and ladder her?
So lucius and Seavas in the front and Shem Athalia and Nemora in the back?
Can u just tell me the formation???
Help
So I can try first and see how it works
Trying to squeeze out more guild wrizz damage. Can get 25m with Shem, Baden, Saveas, Brutus and Khasos. Anyone know of a better comp?
I will level up my seavas to 160 then get Hogan to L+ then I'll get a Arden to L+?
@iron dome Rosaline estrilda raine back, Shemira warek front is the meta wrizz team now. You can sub out warek if you have no better choice. You can try it out.
Interesting. Easy to break 45 with that?
@hearty sinew you can’t have tasi in or she will banish Fareal and you NEED Nemora to charm Fareal. Use shemira Brutus front with lyca nemora Arden back. Nemora mid
And yeah, I don't even have one copy of Warek.
@little nymph Thanks for the tip. I feel like I'm close, its just down to some rng now.
@iron dome I improve my dmg with that setup but Lucius over warek. And my backline all low ascend and lousy gears. I lazy to change...
Yeah it takes a good bit of luck but if you can get a couple charms on fareal he will wreck his own team
@ember bane just beat 16-40 with the setup you’ve been using but sub tasi for Brutus in the same spot. It took several hundred tries but eventually the stars aligned
@fierce kayak might try it with Baden in that spot
Small but I did two x10 pulls and got two elites in both
How are ppl so lucky and gets 2 elites in 10 I got 2 elites in 40 Factions scrolls
Oh there are plenty where I only get two blues as well so it all evens out
I've got 1 blue and 9 greens once 
Not only did I get two in one pull they were both the same hero, the odds of that have to be insanely small
😂
Garbage hero at that
Any advice for 21-54? Their Arden keeps rooting first..
Need help on this stage what do you guys recommend?
Use Brutus opposite Saveas, he is the only hero that can tank Saveas for more than 2 hits @ionic bay
I am out of ideas here. Any suggestions?
11-20, can I just not beat this yet
@rugged marten tried that still can't beat that team 😦
@ionic bay probably because you have 2 tanks and 3 support, no carry, use a hero like Belinda or Saveas and I'd advise against using both Tasi and Fawkes, they tend to fight over who banishes who
@past kestrel I'd recommend using the Wilder trio to combat it, charm the enemy Nemora so your Shem can tank against her, do not put Shem vs Ulmus, it'll always mess you up, and Arden will help stall the enemy Arden and Ulmus
nemore should charm kaz right?
@fierce kayak That composition with Baden adds a lot to the damage. Only problem then is surviving
@iron dome ic.. But hope you had fun.
So stuck please help me ill post full team below
@fierce kayak yupp. Haven't completed a fight yet. Figuring out how to squeeze out more lol
@iron dome 😂
I think Baden> Raine. So will try using him and adding Lucius for shields
Having a bit of trouble with this stage. Any tips on formation and heros?
Any advice for 20-8?
Group is pointless 😆
Ideas?
@novel tusk correct? Hope it helps.
Shem blade
Tasi Call
Just got to chapter 13 who do I swap sav for?
Help! 14-35!
Should i relevel? Im stuck on 11-36 cant pass the stage for the life of me
Is your shemira able to go to 161?
Nope cause not everyone is lvl 140
reset them and put them to 121... you NEED Shem on 161
I need all people 140 to make
yeah she can carry hard!
Yeah but u need your team to be 140s to make shem 161
19-4 @silent wraith
@silent wraith is this a good team for PoT Ancient Ruins?
But see idk why id reset my team to.level 121 when it says i need 140
@wraith barn then just wait and level shemira up...
So im stuck for like 1 week lol or more
Been stuck here since level 76 lvl 79 now lol 11-36 is a bitch
@sly sparrow seems good, shoud really get saveas L+ asap
lol everyone been saying that 😄 havent been lucky with pulls recently... maybe i could switch him with shemira? or should i still keep saveas even when he is only E+ ?
he is very weak at E+
should i use shemira then?
I rem I used both when I was your levels
both saveas and shemira? but i need cc dont i?
that too haha
lmao i cant put it all at once 😄 so what team should i go?
its fine you will get fodder 
is it still too early to determine a line up or who should i be making of use since i’m getting destroyed atm
@silent wraith so i cant do ancient ruins now? 😦
@sly sparrow rn since your carry isnt saveas, u need to max and mash, so belinda/mirael/kaz/silvi as dps for temporary fix
well ive been using brutus kaz front and saveas nemora arden back and i got from chap 10
maybe i could use that comp
Suggestions?
@novel tusk try this
@fierce kayak copy
@silent wraith actually I am still at this stage.. trying to park here from 3 days. Just now I nearly won using this lineup.. haha.. I quickly press exit
@silent wraith I dunno.. man.. It's just like 6 hrs stuck.. I really wanna pass the stage.. I admire you.
I am parking here until I get 75k dust anyways, cuz I dun really need more mythic gear
Saveas is always an instant stuck for me 😥
Nvm think I figured it out, just have to wait for RNG
6-28, i might be stuck here until get everyone to 80 so i can up saveas unless someone else has an idea
Try using arden,tasi and nemora in backline and brutus and saveas in the front. @restive hamlet
Iam stuck at 11-16 😂
I feel like they are just underwhelming without being legendary
My tasi and nemor are also not legendary but i pulled through somehow
But they are at 137 or something🤔
thanks! @fierce kayak @silent wraith used my rare+ arden to pass 😂
@novel tusk great
Any help on this? Ferael is sooo aids...
try swapping tasi for nem and putting her middle to charm fereal
@fierce kayak @silent wraith 16-40 like to solve it asap ty
Stuck on this any help please???
Suggestions on who to ascend? I think I have enough to get one to mythical lol
Just hooowww??
Any idea what I should be doing here? Otherwise I’ll just bring Athalia once there’s a spot in the crystal
Any help for voyage of wonder? I get stuck on 1st elite stage, lose all heroes or 1 survive which makes me unable to progress..
This is the stage I basically lose everything at
19-38, any tips?
@still pilot you still stuck on 15-40?? Cuz I am too 😂😂
been at this roadblock for a few days now
15-40 people message me. I just helped someone beat that level yesterday
@pale kettle @still pilot
Meanwhile I’m stuck on 16-20. Advice anyone? All the YouTube videos I’ve seen have way higher ratings than me.
I'm not stuck on 15-40 lmao
Oh my bad lol
I am at the end of early game, beginning of mid game. What team is best?
(Shem, Brutus) Front. Fereal, Nemora.
Who would fill this last spot if I could pick anyone
nara or tasi
Or even Kelthur
Currently I have lyca
@tawny jewel Estrilda is no good as a carry, and Brutus should definitely be on the crystal at the very least
lyca works
Crystal on cd
Have Tasi or Arden? Replace Ferael with one of them for faction bonus
Hmm. I've been avoiding ascending her past mythic bcuz idk of she's who I want in my top 5
I mean i think she is the best character to ascend to mythic from the lbs i have
Fereal overpowers shem late game so need him
You don’t have to use him right now though. It’s not like he will disappear haha
She works better than belinda as carry
This is what I'm working with
@tawny jewel at the very least, reset Belinda and make your bottom 4 heroes the same level. Then use Lucius + Estrilda in the front. Then you can use Belinda, Fawkes, and Mehira interchangeably in the back. Also use Shemira in the back for now
@gilded walrus reset belinda and level everyone up at the same pace?
@gilded walrus also i need 2 shem copies to mythic so i think i will w8 for that as she is kinda weak now.
Maybe I should go grezul
@tawny jewel yes. And another decent combo would be Estrilda + Gorvo in the front; Lyca, Nemora, Arden in the back. Extremely strong vs Graveborn enemies
@gilded walrusi want to wait till my crystal lvl is 141 to use wilders(esp arden)
My dream team is
Arden
Brutus
Eironn
Lyca
Nemora
@tawny jewel yeah true Arden is much better at 141, but it never hurts to try multiple combinations. It can only benefit you
@gilded walrusokay so i tried running
Sav
Brutus
Arden
Gorvo
Lyca
It didnt work better than my 4lbs mehira team.
Also 4 lbs and mehira is rly strong in lab
Can anyone help with this? I can’t find videos of anyone beating it with an attack rating as low as mine
Also @tawny jewel if you don’t reset Estrilda, you need to use her.
@manic sierra build up a shemira from lab. And you might need to put athalia in the crystal soon
@gilded walrus i am using estrilda . Shes rly strong imo. I just dont know about belinda
@tawny jewel What do you mean buy putting her in crystal? and im trying just havent been lucky enough to get her outside of lab
@manic sierra so athalia is rly hard to ascend and you will hit a lvl cap at 140. So when you hit that level cap you will have to put her in the crystal and replace her with somone of a highier ascention tier. Also, the best team rn is 3 wilder supports (eg tasi,nemora,arden,lyca) brutus (or any good tank you have)and shemira
What should be my lineup or is it good as it is now?
I've been stuck in 15 40 what ever i do is not working can someone help me please
@tawny jewel Fawkes is better than her in most situations, so maybe try him even though he’s elite+. I had to use an Elite Kelthur and Elite+ Gorvo to beat 16-12.
@manic sierra Khasos is usually better in the back because he can be used as range & he’s not very durable. He’s also not a terrific choice for carry, but it’s okay since he’s your only Leg+. Try using Tasi instead of Nemora though and see if that works. If not, you need your bottom 4 heroes to be the same level
@tawny jewel yea i know, and that is what im going for, so you are pretty much saying that i just have to wait?
@pale kettle message me. I know the perfect combo lol
Can i get any suggestions for 15-40?
@gilded walrus yea i know khasos isnt the best carry, but he is my best carry by far, and what do you mean by my bottom 4?
@manic sierra personally i belive that saveas is better than khasos but khasos can work as well as he is leg+
@tawny jewel yea he is really strong,
Here's what I have to play around with
@manic sierra the ones that aren’t on the crystal. So everyone except Khasos should be the same level. Maybe level Khasos down to 150.
@gilded walrus oh okay, but im only really lacking purple dust to make them all 140
@manic sierra also a good tip that many people gave me and it is one of my mistakes, try to focus and ascend 1 hero per faction(2 heroes on the faction you invest in the most). And use scrolls on the faction you prefer (preferably wilders :) ) . This way you will almost never hit a level wall.
@manic sierra ah make sure you buy it from the store everyday. You could see if making Khasos, Lyca, and Brutus 141, 140, and 140 may work
@manic sierra keep all your other heroes at elite + in crystal and they will be rly high lvl as the crystal ignores lvl restrictions
@tawny jewel that is what im trying to, im focusing on maruader/wilders for know, and thanks for the tip bro @gilded walrus i am buying it everyday and i have brutus 140, and with lyca i need more gold, for some reason im really low on gold xd
@manic sierra i asked a guy on the server for advice (sorrowin) and he showed me his alt account. The guy had like 5 mythic + of different factions at lvl 190 and the others where elite+ at lvl 190 which is rly usable
@candid turret saveas is a rly good carry . Do you like using him?
I do, but my tanks die before he can deal enough damage @tawny jewel who would u recommend to use with him?
@tawny jewel Thanks for the tip mate ill try go for that 😄
Help with team please
@manic sierra ay gl dude
@tawny jewel thanks mate, good day to you
Do I Even have a Chance at the last lvl ?
@SMP~Rapiid#848 can you send the pic again?
@urban island use the cannon to blow up that tent. It’s near impossible
Try
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Gorvo
Nemora
If you want
You can also go for
Saveas
Warek or golus
Arden
Gorvo
Nemora
Aight ill try them out, thnx @tawny jewel and @hasty nebula
Lucius+Rosaline insane duo
Try to get a factionadvantage if possible. If not then use the best heroes you own
@hasty nebula i have her but only elite what do you think
@gilded walrus thanks mate!
@tawny jewel i have only elite too. But my Lucius always have ult with Rosaline+rowan
@tawny jewel he is so good with shemira
I guess but then dont you lack dmg?
hi i’m really stuck on this level, any help on what i should use?
Hey everyone, I just got my Shemira to Mythic and dropped my Brutus to make room. Did I mess up? I feel like I don’t know how to properly utilize her.
Can anyone explain the importance of the library
@inner sparrow #classic-questions
Oh sorry I thought this was questions lol
Hi everyone just started, looking for a bit of advice on where to progress and who I should be looking to keep and who I can dump thanks any help is much appreciated 😊
Same counts for me, just started and i don’t understand much, if anyone wants to give some advice or help me out a bit, hit me up
18-27
Djeez
any help would be greatly appreciated, i have space in my crystal also my shemira is level 100 now
Need help on 10-28 plz
I’m not that far yet, but the last level I beat had the exact same formation. Shem in front of the Hypogean fatso, Lyca in the back at the bottom. The Brutus in front ofc. Keep swapping Arden & Tasi’s spots until you see which which works better. I think I had Arden in the middle @onyx basin
18-27 @gilded walrusthanks i will try
Arden needs to wrap at least the two hypogean mages @onyx basin and no problem
@gilded walrus did it first try thanks <3
@onyx basin no problem!
anyone help just above^ its 7-36
@oak lance try working in Lucius in front of Vedan. He’s occasionally good against him because Vedan attacks so fast, therefore allowing Lucius to ult faster as long as he doesn’t die. Athalia is also useful vs Ankhira if she can prevent her from doing the cocoon ability.
I wouldn’t put Lyca in the front on this level. Saveas will destroy her
Thats kurukaru’s one 😂 my ones above
Fml sorry 😂😂
@feral goblet theres ur advice^
How do i stop roots
@oak lance i would try Shem and Luc in the front. Arden, Lyca, Nemora in the back, but Shem isn’t a terrific tank this early in the game. Swap Nemora and Arden ‘s spots if that doesn’t work
@pale kettle your Arden needs to wrap theirs first
@west mantle have you spent or is that all playing? Hha
Lol thx Saxie for the advice
How do I beat this crappy athalia, can't cc this monster
@gilded walrus wanne guide me a bit?
@west mantle whenever you beat this I’d like to know how 😂 my friend is having the same issue
Spent some, almost 20bucks. Hahaha that will take a while
Was wondering what y'all think would be the nost optimal lineup for me atm
Anyone know what I should do to get 8-20 and 99 in tower?
@pale kettle sure! @west mantle if you have a good Ezizh, he can be useful. My friend almost beat it, but his Ezizh is only Elite
@gilded walrus tried both, unfortunately lost, thanks anyway. Ima just keep trying and levelling up my guys.
@gilded walrus really need to Finnish it this month though cuz I need that 10 tavern scroll for the event. Oh I'll try ezizh, only elite though ahha
@oak lance if you can get Shem at her next skill level, it’ll probably push you through. Also make sure their Arden gets wrapped before he does his wraps
@gilded walrus I put Lucius in front on Vedan, Vedan murders him real quick and the Athlia doesn’t seem to survive long
@gilded walrus dm’ed you
@feral goblet do you have Arden?
@gilded walrus The other guy has 2 roots i have 1
@pale kettle keep retrying until the one he roots is Arden. It’s a game of chance
Well the beach is ded hahahah thanks for that idea @gilded walrus , I used eziz since the only cc that works on her is silence, and shem also has silence, also had moon/sun stone so that helped keep her being silenced.
Yea I have an Arden that’s elite plus
@west mantle no problem! I’ll let my friend know to try getting those relics
@feral goblet Arden can be very useful when he wraps the right enemies
The Silvana on the other team murders Arden fast and there’s nothing I can do bout it
Silvina is hard to counter in early game. If you use Mehira and make her defense the lowest, Silvina should go after her. Since Mehira heals herself it’s not a big deal
@feral goblet
@gilded walrus yay I did it with this team
Athalia vs Ankhira 🙏
Can someone help me with lineup please?
so my Savaes seems to die really quickly, is it just a question that he needs to be ascended to shine, or is the lineup bad - I have Lucius, Ira, Mirael, Tasi with Savaes ...
@dense ether Saveas needs to be at least Elite/Elite+ before being used as carry
well crap
Gorvo basically majorly fucks any unit he faces up
Any suggestions ples?
Can't get past this stage, please help
my current lineup, is - Estrilda, Lucius, Thane, Rowan and Tasi. any suggestions ?
@tame vigil can Arden wrap 1 or 2 at this level? If it’s two, he could be better on this level than Nemora.
2, I’ll try to swap him in then
@fringe sparrow Isabella isn’t that great this early in the game, and wilders kill her very easy. Try using Khasos instead 😃
11-36 help
Ive been stuck here for a good 5 hours now
@gilded ruin what stage is this?
@gilded walrus 14-16
@crystal dune Vedan will get slaughtered by Lyca. Swap him with Ogi
@gilded ruin PM me I’ll try to figure something out
@gilded walrus thanks :)
What about me? lol - I have no clue how to better the team other than just putting Hogan back in instead of Savaes
@fringe sparrow no problem 😃
@dense ether try using Golus and Lucius in the front until you can get a better Saveas
I feel like I might just need to wait out getting a mythic or two under my belt, but waiting on fodder is slow.
@dense ether oh wait, use hogan because you need faction bonus
will go for that, at least my instinct wasn't totally off base lol
Can someone help me with lineup?
@thorn silo Swap nemora for Belinda.
@austere vale ty i wiil try. You think its a good idea? But Nemora healer
Healing is nice, but the 4x faction bonus could be handy. Alternatively, could use Hogan instead of Estrilda. She doesn’t get too strong yet
Any help with mine?
Same advice, swap nemora for Belinda
Need help any ideas?
@north pelican Or Rosalind and Estrilda for Arden and Lyca
@austere vale can i make a good lb team . Or lb gb
@tawny jewel Estrilda Lucius Belinda Fawkes Hendrik
Was thinking about a longterm team:
Estrilda
Lucius
Mehira
Shem
Rosaline
Stuck on this stage, any advice? Btw my shemira is now lvl 100
@austere vale i kinda like mehira
Thank you
You could definitely use Mehira in place of Belinda
I wanna use the shem rosaline combo
And go for the team i listed above. Do you see a problem with it?
Not that I can imagine.
So anyone has any ideas?
@cold marten can u show all ur units
@cold marten Move Saveus to bottom to wipe the board before dueling the other Saveus
And ult with Brutus before Golus Ult triggers
So turn off auto and do it manually for their ults? Brutus dies before Golus does his Ult lmao
Also doph u should put lyca on crystal, she's great, u will need it in a few stages from now
Nah, u should be able to do it with those units, I passed with less
I know I was just hoping to get her to elite + but alas I seem to have no luck summoning wilders 😦
Elite is just fine, u mainly use her for haste at this point
She doesn’t need to be strong to be good. Lyca just needs to be on the team to be useful. Paired with Arden and Tasi and you never lose
Yep that's the comp I was gonna suggest, also u should make arden 141 asap, that will carry you hard
I am waiting to get dust to level my other heroes to 140 cause I’m stuck at 120 for Estrilda
But for now u could try lyca, brut, arden, tas, sav
Okay I will try switching Lyca in my RC with someone else
Do you buy dust from shop daily?
I don’t have enough coin no more the past few days when I realized I should have done that
@austere vale ty this swap help me!
How did you run out of coins tho, you spend it on upgrading gear?
Mostly by leveling up my other heroes one at a time tends to take a lot of coin. I did upgrade some gear but not a lot
Also what stage number is this again? I do remember passing it not long ago
Any ideas on this VoW stage? Gorvo oneshots basically whoever faces him
The Tasi Lyca Arden Sav and Brut lineup worked! Thanks @broken egret (I’m on 11-27)
Hey everyone, I just got my Shemira to Mythic and not really sure how to best utilize her. Dropped my Brutus down to 141 to make room for her and currently have her and Brutus on the front line with Arden, Nemora, and Tasi in the rear. Does that make any sense?
Oh noes I got to the ascended territory now. Man he decimated my team without breaking a sweat
Ye this stage is horrible, however I think I got my solution a bit up, I'll try and find it for you @cold marten
Stuck on 20-26. Anyone have suggestions? Been trying with a bunch of different formations
Anyone have advise on how to beat 12-28? Saveas seems to 100k crit every time, and vedanta gets his ultimate in 10 seconds then mercs my whole team
@warm lotus my friend just beat this level. He used Brutus, Shem, Lyca, Arden, and Tasi. Make Tasi’s defense lower than Arden so Silvina goes after her instead of him. I’m not sure what order he put them in
I needs help beating 17-35 I posted my pics a few mins ago
@cold marten I believe I did it by spam trying this stage, however u can try putting Sav behind brut, than putting lyca front and arden middle back, maybe that works? Also if Sav crits his aa stuns so that should be able to stop khasos from throwing the spinning axe
@devout swallow Hey there friend. ^^
Give this a shot :
Shemira
Estrilda
Tasi
Gorvo
Nemora
Focus charm of Nemora on Saveas
Make sure Tasi's RNG doesn't lead her to her absolute demise.
If you can clock up both Shemira and Tasi's ultimates, you won the match. ^^
My tasi and arden both suck lol. Guess I migjt be stuck for a while haha
@karmic compass Hello there friend, can you re-send it please? scrolling up and down is highly frustrating. ^^
@wise merlin should I put estrilda in 1 slot and gorvo in 2 slot?
He also had Grace on Arden. Not sure about the other dura items. His Lyca was only 180, so she may help you out a lot. @warm lotus
Cool. I will see if I can get lucky with a good merc hire this week
Hey, could anyone help me out? I've been using a Shemira, Hendrik, Thane, Lucius, Taci team for a while but i've been wondering if i should replace someone with Saveas.
@wise merlin
@devout swallow
As of the way I've written it, you can imagine how the formation would look like according to their names :
Shemira ( top backline)
Estrilda (top frontline)
Tasi (middle backline)
Gorvo (bottom frontline)
Nemora (bottom backline)
11-28 help?
@pale kettle you might want to start working on an arden, he should help you out a lot
He's really good at 141 right?
@karmic compass Well, I've passed it because I've had a Mythic tier Kaz with her sig, it allowed me further frontline durability against whoever I put her against, and she managed to maul down graveborn enemies in no time, so Grezhul didn't even stand a chance.
But in your case, I'd put the formation like so :
Vurk
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Athalia (only for the faction bonus, if it doesn't work, try Lucius)
So I'm kind of waiting for my top 5 to hit 141 so I can throw him in the crystal
For now you can try to do this one:
Lyca
Brut
Tas
Sav
Nem
And hope new charms sav
Dam this seems impossibruh
Make sure to restart quite a few time till the point where Sav crits the khasos on his second attack so khasos doesn't do his axe throw
@pale kettle Belinda instead of Khasos. if that doesn't work, then try to fodder up some of your heroes, or even make some space of Mehira in Crystal and give her a shot, her survivability and Hypogean buff is crazy.
Belinda doesn't help I tried. And with safiya for the damage boost. Still nothing
And okay, I have one slot in crystal available I was considering putting eironn in. Yeah I have lyca
@faint quest Honestly, you could get Kaz to Mythic tier using Arden and use a Blue level Arden, since you're getting to the part where Arden literally just can't survive an enemy Silvina.
Instantly destroyed
Rip, my key for passing it was Kaz, so that doesn't really help you... 😅 Sorry about that.
@faint quest use that formation
@wise merlin do you have any idea for this one?
@faint quest I beat this same formation a while ago. I’m going to find the picture of the formation I used and send it to you
:o np xD kaz just doesnt fit me well atm but later on for sure @wise merlin and thx will try👌 @silent wraith
ch20 soon my friend 
Its okay I'll probably just borrow someone's kaz
@broken egret I'd put Lucius and Brutus up front, Tasi, Lyca, and Saveas in the back, if because Tasi can avoid Silvina eventually, while Arden will just die.
Formation should look like this :
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi
Brutus
Saveas
Silv already dashes to tasi tho and not arden, but I'll give it a try and see
Also tas still too weak atm and dies most runs I do on this stage and I fear losing the faction bonus will make her 1 shot
@broken egret Change their gear then, so that her defense rating will increase but without Arden present, Silvina will still be targetted, denying the additional damage due to less defense rating.
If Lucius is fast enough and Tasi is lucky enough, RNG can really bless her. ^^
So call on luci or tas?
@faint quest it wouldn’t let me send it for some reason, but I used this:
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Arden needs to wrap Niru, Isabella, and Shemira. If Niru heals, just restart because you have no hope. Here are the dura items I used
Blade - Shem
Drape - Brutus
Call - Tasi
Grace - Arden
Eye - Lyca
I'd say Grace on Tasi, just so she won't be 1shot, but if she can survive, then give grace to Lucius and Call to Tasi.
You could always try the other way around, trying won't hurt. ^^
Nah luci is useless it seems, he dies in 2 hits, his level just too low atm
Tysm bro
@silent wraith
@warm lotus
@wise merlin I tried that lineup probably 20+ times and everyone got smoked in 30 seconds. I put all my leg and mythic gear with artifacts on those 5 and it didn't help
Tried that but at these stages brutus cant stand a chance to survive any longer and cant get his ult which then leads their backline to kill my backline @gilded walrus
Thanks @frigid dagger
@devout swallow I have a feeling that you'll need a hero with plenty of durability to survive enemy Saveas, I think that with enough health your Brutus might be able to pull it off, if given Grace too, just for the bonus health..
@warm lotus np, probably it take u a few attempts but u will beat that finally
@@wise merlin I need him ascended above elite I imagine.. yeah saveas was hitting for 130k crits against gorvo and nemora
@faint quest that same lineup works on 20-12 😛
Presumably because of the faction advantage, and just Saveas doing Saveas things.. no worries, your Estrilda might have a chance if she will cast her things just at the right time
Estrilda at the top frontline position died in 2hits from khasos
Ahh I forgot how much I hated that wall when I was there..
Nicceee ty :) @silent wraith
I’m having trouble on 16-20 if anyone has suggestions. I’ve seen people beat it with this formation, but I don’t think mine is strong enough
@wise merlin yeah this wall is insane. Im either dead in 30 seconds, or shemira is in a 1v1 against vedan and he just constantly ultimate and I run out of time
@devout swallow What formation do you generally use to get to that 1v1 situation?
@devout swallow can u SS stage
@gilded walrus the formation I got from @silent wraith is
Nem
Shem
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Super rng dependent but I had one attempt earlier today where I got it to 1v1 but timed out
@plucky flint yes getting closer!!
@plucky flint I’ve been running that as well as the one I sent, but I’ve had no luck so far. Thanks though 😃 I’ll keep trying it. Did they say who Silvina needs to attack first? I’m going to guess Tasi
@gilded walrus yes tasi. I just watch her health bar and auto restart if anyone dies before her ult. It’s like 98% restarts lol
@plucky flint dang I’m not anywhere close to her ult
u will eventually beat, just get stronger each day, this run I failed 3v1...
If that’s the formation I’m thinking of, the goal is to kill Niru first
Here are my levels and ascensions to compare. Its pretty close. It mostly spamming the reset a second or two after the fight after tasi suicides. Do you have call on her?
@gilded walrus think niru is almost always the last to go. Goal is to cc lock everyone until it’s down to shem v vedan and niru.
niru is very hard to kill first
I thought golus was a tank not a low hp brutus T_T
@plucky flint I could’ve sworn you said Brutus not Lyca. I’ll just reset Brutus and raise everyone up and I should be able to do it
Help for 19-38?
@gilded walrus omg. I didn’t even consider doing that. Smart
Some help? 11-28
Love how my Shem is the highest level & best gear and dies first every time lmao
I copied this comp from YouTube. I'm the same level as in the vid but I keep losing. Is it just a matter of restarting for good RNG?
@oblique phoenix yeah I think you should be able to rng your way through that
Id switch Lyca and brutus place, and tasi switch in ardens place @oblique phoenix
Front liner keep dodging my attack... any tips?
Need help passing this level please :)
17-24 is really getting on my nerve. I should be strong enough to clear it yet I keep getting beaten within 20s. Really need some suggestions for this one.
Need help on 10-40 this stage’s pissing me off so much, Isabella one shots everybody
Any ideas mAh dude's?
EDIT: NOT MY LINEUP JUST SHOWING HEROES
Just got to chapter 13 who do I swap sav for?
Suggestions?
@brittle summit need to draw silvi with tasi, arden to root grez
Stuck on 11-36, any ideas?
@silent wraith doesn't work for me since if I have both Silvina goes for Arden instead of Tasi.
Suggestions? Being killed whereever I stick Sav
Put Nemora on bottom she has to charm Sav
I have
@brittle summit lower her def lower than arden
Sometimes it takes 400 resets for RNG to win
Which gear would be the best to remove off her to drop her DEF low enough?
chest and hat, and if that doesnt work lower her def in union if you are using the 3rd tier
Thing is Neru overpowers the top
Nemora bottom Arden middle
Removed all gear on Tasi (no DEF buff from union), and Arden is still getting targeted by Silvina.
Finally having Silvina target Tasi and still the same outcome (losing within 20s).
just gotta pray to rng now, tasi ult+shem
Shemira ultimate never seems to deal damage whenever she uses it.
I need help with 13-24
@frigid dagger
@still oar tyvm will try it
anyone got lineup for 20-26?
@frigid dagger
@crude hinge I use the same lineup on that
ok i’ll keep trying then
Pro line up available for few minuts
What should I do?
Lyca or tasi? Current roster is brut/shimera with Fawkes/Nemora
Who should my fifth faction tower teammate be? Im leaning belinda?
Gonna ascend some of them but dunno what comp i should run then
Any tips for 12-28?
Guys who is better Rosaline or Thane?
hey ive been playing for a few days and was wondering if anyone could give me some direction on what to do. trying to run graveborn rn but been super unlucky with my pulls
@inland kite I just cleared that, but my Brutus had a much higher ascension level. I would try
Khasos
Sav
Saf
Brutus
Ankhira
ROSALINE OR THANE PLZZZZ?
@grim vessel rosaline. Thane is fun though.
For ascension purposes, thane probably benefits more, but Rosaline is more useful/fits into more comps
@dry jewel try to get Saveas to L with Golus, Ankhira E+, after that, level everyone up to 125 at least. Then try this comp:
Saveas/Estrilda
Brutus/Lucius
Ira
Lucius/Brutus
Estrilda/Saveas
(Always put Saveas behind Brutus)
@plucky flint Yup, also, put Fawkes on the crystal, his coffin is gonna be useful AF
I'm using Lucius Warek Belinda Athelia and Grezhul/Nemora/Tasi/Hendrik xD I switch between these sometimes
@sudden sparrow oh good call didn’t really think about him.
I cleared lvl 40 barely with belinda as my fifth
Mainly Lucius Warek Belinda Athelia Tasi
I'm thinking of replacing Tasi with Rosaline or Thane
12-28 any help?
@grim vessel I would replace athalia with rosaline. She’s not gonna keep up with the rest of your team ascension wise
@cloud ermine get your Vedan and Arden to 141 so the rest on the Crystal so as well then try this comp:
Saveas
Brutus(put Lucius gear on him for this stage)
Belinda
Tasi
Nemora (hope she charms Saveas for extra damage)
Stuck on 11-36 😢
Like this?
@fresh lichen switch Tasi and Lucius positions
Or replace Tasi with Someone else
ideas 13-12
Sorry if this went through but I don’t see it. 21-4. Do I just need levels?
@coral frigate Tasi Frontline instead of Lyca, if Tasi lasts until she can use her Ult, then replace Arden with Shemira
How im supposed to beat this i don't understand all my heroes die im 1 sec
Is not that hard really
I followed th map in command chat and suddenly they all died
@pale kettle Don't reveal all triangles, for every triangle the boss is stronger, just 1 path blue or green
Noway 😂
Just get to it with the Blue path and beat the shit out of the boss
I have to go again then @flint cairn thanks for telling me
oh my god @sudden sparrow you beautiful man thank you so much
Glad it helped m8 
Hmmm
Try:
Shemira
Hogan
Arden
Khasos
Saveas
@glossy topaz
If that doesn't work, replace Hogan with Saveas and put Nemora on the 5th position and hope for her to charm enemy Saveas
@fresh lichen Lyca helped me with 11-36 and now I’m stuck on 11-37
yeah im stuck at 11-38 and i dont have a nemora to charm the saveas..
Help meh that ira devours my shemira

That warek in that team seems hot
I'm waiting for 1 more random Mauler Elite+ to get Saveas Legendary+
Im convinced estrilda is trash tier. Currently she is leg+ with 1 mythic gear and 3 leg+ gears. Tempted to feed to mythic belinda to make mythic plus. Then only need two belindas more for ascended. Thoughts? Am I just somehow using estrilda wrong?
Frickin frack 15-40 issa pain in my arse
@heady urchin I fed her to Belinda for the same reason
Garbage as a hero, the most annoying thing as an enemy
getting closer to 20!
Out of the top 3 who should i level up next?
How do I beat this stage lmao
@cyan olive go fawkes you can get L+
@pale kettle there is no need. you need extremely CC.
Arden , Shermia , Nemora , Ferael and Warek solved problem with 2 paths.
@cyan olive depends who you need. Else I myself will go for fawkes since he can go Ascended easier.
Estrilda is fine but fakes you have more copies.
Ikr!! Im so hyped but still scared of the stage 19-38 T_T Ill get there soon though ^_^ @silent wraith
@faint quest @silent wraith
Don't.. You are falling into their trap soon..
@heady urchin estrilda not a trash tier. She have her use even in higher levels.
She does need her levels and ascension. She is very useful as a middle back hero.
@pale kettle nemora middle back. Drop tasi reset if charm fails.
Shem should be able to tank at this stage. No prob.
Drop tasi cos she will banish fareal and nemora can't charm him.
Top 5 ?
I don't see myself doing this anytime soon LOL any suggestions?
Ideas? Or is this just a matter of rng
RNG
You want to take out Arden so repeat until Nemora charms him or Tasi banishes him
rip
@bright geyser nemora charm saveas, swap lyca in for either arden/tasi(should be swapping tasi with lyca) and put lyca in middle back arden at bottom back and swap brutus and shemira
@novel tusk i havent reach 20-8 so i cant really speak much but have you tried using athalia to cancel out arden and nemora charm others?
my athalia is e+ and the one i rented from merc camp is on a cooldown lol
i think E+ would do just fine to cancel out arden's attempt to root for 10-15 seconds, but obviously im not sure if its going to work just my 2cents lol good luck mate
thanks ill try it out
@inner sparrow do you have nemora? just charm Brutus
Lyca
Saveas
Arden
Luicus
Nemora
Sadly I don’t have nemora
