#lineup-help
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@summer hatch i saw a L+ and a L belinda in your bag.
@formal flame put tasi on crystal and use lucius belinda lyca arden tasi
Ah yes I have a l and an l+ Belinda
@faint quest hey congrats!! 
Revert that L belinda if you can
My L Belinda?
No, i told you a line up already@formal flame
Okay reverted, what now?
Need help with a general lineup in campaign. Im thinking my main team will be lucius and one more for front line then saveas nemora and lyca in the back line. Then put belinda grezhul and seirus in the crystal. Any help is welcome as always!!
Now send me your lightbearer page @summer hatch
@green thorn saveas actually works pretty well as a frontline! You could do him and lucius frontline, nemora lyca and tasi/arden as backline
@green thorn make saveas 140 and put him frontline
@steel moatthank youss

Im working on getting saveas to 140 need to get others up first. So saveas lucius in fornt and nemora lyca and tasi / arden in back line. Who should i put in the crystal ???
Crystal is for passing the level cap. Let me explain. You have an e tasi right, and you cant level her beyond 100. But you need her to get levels so you can use it. To do this, you level your high ascended heroes and put rest to crystal
So it doesnt matter which hero you are leveling for now. Just level top 5 high ascended heroes.
140 level with 100 level cap👍
O ok so level up my saveas and 4 elite + then put others in the crystal thank you @sudden sparrow and @shut marsh
Good luck further.
👍
Any tips 22-50 ?
I just wish you luck 
Why dont you brutus agains seirus tho
And thoran right front so when skreg throws him back he distracts wilders?
Just got a lucius and want to incorporate him into the lineup somehow and I'm not sure who to cut or if any of my other unused heroes would go well with him.
@tribal pawn youre still very early game u could just get 1 hero to carry u through stages.
Yeah that's fair, but I want to think with the later game in mind as far as what heroes I'm prioritizing.
Trust me don't worry bout that just remember keep 1 hero as a main carry dont level everyone equally like you're doing now. Keep 1 like 20 levels above everyone else
What stage u currently at?
I'm on 6/24 rn
Yeah u can use 1 single hero carry all the way to like 8
If its someone regular with shemira well I still got ger 26 levels above my others
Leveling order dps>tank>support/cc
^^^ what he said
Gotcha
I’m not sure if I have these guys in the right order or if I should change out some guys on my team all of the top ones are my team
It goes
Athalia, Brutus, Arden, Belinda, and Saveas
Just laddered up my Saveus, suggestions for line-up?
Brutus saveus front the rest in the back also try to lvl either brutus or belinda way more before u do anyone elae
Okay thanks
@true finch you could also run a 5x mauler comp and carry you
@tired dove u could just run the meta team.
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Kaz/thoran
Arden
If that doesn't work just try and build around your belinda
@bleak nacelle in the early game u can win most of the stage with any lineup tbh because u dont have much use
Khasos, estrilda frontline then shemira silvina nemora backline. Its not a proper team yet but u’ll get there
@south herald 👍
Should I ascend Saveas or Khasos to legendary?
Saveas @random dock hes the best early game carry but dont fodder any ascended heroes
Which mythic gear should I get first for my brutus?
@mental forum I did weapon first then chestplate then boots then helm
@south herald just got Isabella is she better than only of my current comp?
@bleak nacelle u can try putting her in somewhere for 3 graveborn so u get a little buff but shes not that good
I’m stuck on 8-20 and don’t know what to do... Should the formation change?
I wish I could ascend Lucius and Tasi but I can’t pull dupes of them
@feral goblet nemora top tasi in the middle abd saveas bot side
What bout the front?
Same thing i think... try to focus on upgrading saveas hes the best early game carry
I’ll level him up recently got him elite plus
Any ideas? Stuck for a few days
@south herald the formation works, survived a bit longer but still got killed. Thx anyways it helped
help with 12-8?
Who should I get to L+ first? Arden, Nemora, or Lyca? They are all Lvl 141 currently and my carries are Lvl 180 Shemira and 141 Brutus.
@sand rune arden then nemora then lyca
What do i do if the A.I uses the meta team but roided vs me? 🤔 😂
nvm i beat it
Honestly not even rng can help me here 🙏😂
@grave flower will do, thanks
I need 3 teams to use in champions any ideas?
@loud osprey simply afk and raise your heroes' level more
@grave flower ait
@stiff kraken Build two really strong team and one weak team. Preferably put the weak team on team one just in case people use their strongest team first.
@stiff kraken spread your strongest damage dealers to at least 2 teams and set supporters around them, like shemira can go with nemora and brutus, belinda with fawkes and lucius, the rest you can fill to ultilize faction bonuses
Since I have 2 Legendaries Brutus & Saveas Elite plus should I focus on leveling them up? I have 2 elites Tasi and Lucius but can’t ascended them yet...
@coral frigate all about the levels, raise them higher and you'll ease through
who should i lv next (and i beat that lv but i just wanna know if i should lv evelnly or focus)
get the 5 in your crystal to the highest possible is ideal
oh ok so just start lvling lucius belinda thx 😄 @grave flower
kinda new to the game, is there an ideal late game lineup? or do each comp have strengths and weaknesses
arden is useful to me even now so i dont recommend resetting him
i think the tasi nemora arden lyca one is famous @desert falcon
@feral goblet yes
So it’s fine that Tasi and Lucius can’t get have there lvl101 perk yet? It seems useful
how is the new mehira unit in terms of comp
I'm stuck 😭
@feral goblet tasi and lucius are more of late game heroes, they need much higher levels to be really useful so u can save them to build later on
Having both of them at 100 for now will be fine for now.
Any help for me?
@gray stratus try hogan saveas arden brutus lyca
Wow what stage is that 5 legendary opponents so scary
8-40 but u get them waaaaaaay earlier like chapter 6
I’m stuck on 8-20
Recently pulled a Grehzul what does it do? Attacker or defender?
Nope didn't work for me @grave flower
defender ofc @feral goblet
Cool it’s an undead Lucius With twin swords
What would yall run?
@gray stratus you'll just have to try and fail and try again with another, if all fails then afk to raise level and wait for more food to ascend, you wont always get a way out immediately in this game tho
K
i used to stuck at one level for weeks just to get one unit to level up and cruised through dozens of maps just to get stuck again 😂 @gray stratus
@green loom the meta team ofc lol the easiest way
@green loom
meta team.
Shemira (post 161), Brutus tank
Wilders back: Lyca Tasi nemora Arden
@feral goblet Grehzul is good late game
are there any recommended faction comps for the faction towers?
Saveas carry up to c.11-c.12
Proper gear with good tank saveas can carry to ch15
If you got Shemira 161 or Belinda 161 you can feed him to Brutus
Post team and enemy
@sudden sparrow who you telling to fodder sav?
To @tired dove, but only when he gets Shemira or Belinda 161 later on. Not now obviously
Brutus top khaos bottom athalia behind Brutus (or sac whichever works better) then the other in mid. Run saf in back bottom. Make sure duras grace on Brutus
Any way for faster dust?
@sudden sparrow he is still one of best damages against guild boss and even at that don’t fodder until at least chapter 15
@tired dove buy it from the store daily
@steep cape Agreed, but he's easy to get so you shouldn't worry about feeding him to Brutus if possible and affordable
WILDERS
@hushed girder depends on what you're building tho
im new so dont have much heroes
@hushed girder Wilders usually are popular and safe choice.
But if it's me.. I will wait and save tarven token first cos you are still quite new. There be plenty and easy summons early game.
@sudden sparrow I agree but also disagree- I did just that I it put a huge wall up for me until I had another sav at 160 to take his place, even though my brutus was way stronger
this is what was pulled from 100/100
@steep cape u don't follow meta so I get it
idk what is good or not good. im very new to game 4 days in total
@hushed girder heard he is good late game But.. this guy need a specific line-up to work. So not easy to use imo.
Refer to Glourious Tier list. #550491326479728650
Lol yeah I do.. my shem will be ascended as soon as I have two more leg+ ghetz is same thing 2 leg+ away from ascended. My wilder team is a little further behind because they are only important in clutch spots, their dps is complete trash other then kaz and maybe eirron. Everyone actin like they know something about something when people mid game don’t care about meta. Meta means nothing if you’re stuck. But again just another person that feels they have superior knowledge and it makes me laugh as per usual lol
@sudden sparrow
Omg i see why 920 is meme worthy
@cobalt lance I dunno.. I already trying hard to make a decent 5 man team.. lol..
@tired dove buy daily dust from store if possible. Else other game modes like peaks, etc..
16-20 stuck long time?
Any suggestions for who I should use on this stage?
Got salty over something there bud? @steep cape
You’re the second person tonight to act like they know everything. Not salty, just sick of children @sudden sparrow
I'm 16 so not a children anymore, also, I'm not acting like I know everything wft
Jus helping new players to start playing the game on an easier way
Chill guys, we all trying to help here. So sometimes our opinions might differ too.
Any advice or is current team ok? P
Any suggestions?
@brittle summit how much enemies left end of game? 2 Brutus? I think estilda rushing in will melt if I am not wrong?
I am chill. Just sick of people playing off tier guide. Doesn’t work for everyone and it’s not very accurate until late game with exception of sav and shem being gods pretty much right through
@ripe stone Try using
Lucius/Gorvo
Gorvo/Lucius
Saveas/Belinda
Lyca
Nemora
@sudden sparrow heyo. 
Get that saveas to 160 asap
I saw some Tier lists but don't follow em, I don't have most of the "God tier" haroes anyway. Anyway @ripe stone she is, but maybe some more DPS would be good, or try using Lyca instead of Nemora so Tasi uses Ulti way faster
@fierce kayak none get taken out, and when they do it's only Kaz who goes down.
@dark tundra Oh hi there
@sudden sparrow ty will do been heavily reliant on nemora. Will try changing it up 😃
Occasionally you can swap nemora for tasi if you need the cc, lyca haste is just really good @ripe stone
Fr tho, 141 or 160 that sav asap
If it doesn't work and you also get even more rekt than before, then forget what I said, and back to square one
@frank scarab heyo 
whats poppin @dark tundra
@nocturne furnace my suggestion might be shit but:
Thoran/Hendrik Estrilda
Shemira isabella/lyca arden/belinda
@frank scarab working on it 😂
@nocturne furnace tbh if you dont use ogi hes pretty ass and id rather use lyca instead
your tanks kinda suck so its a bit hard to see whatll fit over there
another suggestion: get a saveas
Get a fat wallet*
Now that I’ve got Shemira up to 180, how should I go about leveling the rest of my team?
@thorny frost Brutus top khaos bottom athalia or sav behind Brutus the other in middle then saf back bottom
@brittle summit ic.. it's a tough match and have to kill everyone except Brutus fast. Does fawkes helps?
Cos I using meta team with Shemira and Brutus to tank.. so once Shemira ulti goes off with Tasi.. everyone does except 2 x Brutus. So it's up to how much Shemira can absorb Brutus ulti in the end.
You can try Belinda Lucius fawkes for bonus, then Brutus to tank Brutus and last one use wilder?
@sand rune brutus first, then other 3 heroes equally guess
@fierce kayak would Baden or Kaz be good to use at all? I know Baden is really good for guild hunts but not too sure what level he needs to be to be viable for everything else, and likewise for Kaz.
@pseudo bear That’s what I thought. Thanks.
@brittle summit I beat it with a 5x mauler
@brittle summit baden for guild hunt and kaz is good late game. But for now.. building a meta team is still easiest to use imo.
How far behind you from 161 Shem? Actually you can start buying nemora to L+ too imo. After that.. buy back Shemira till she able to go White.
Once I get myself a L+ Graveborn fodder I can make her go to M, otherwise I have to wait for more Lightbearer fodder so I can make Estrilda go to M.
I ran something along these lines
Although Fawkes instead of athalia night work @brittle summit
Need help 11-40 any ideas?
Any tips ? 22-52
@cloud ermineWhy that Nemora Frontline?
Was just moving them around the how I beat the previous level but with athalia behind her
Brutus against khaos sav behind athalia to dive the dude with gun Nara to bring mirael close and either shem thoran or warrick as other front line in front of golus @cloud ermine
@proud pelican who else you have?
@steep cape
@steep cape but the athalia would be back line so u mean to put sav in middle backline?
Actually put him him bottom back and athalia middle
Managed to clear it by using my friends Shemira.
Nice! @brittle summit
Who to use in 9-20?
What’s 9-20 again
Hey guys, any tips on this one.
Use Hendrick instead of Hogan @autumn harness
Ive tried arden, still gettingdumped pretty hard
Anything else? @sudden sparrow at this point, is it only ascension that can help to get me thru this?
Honestly, yes @autumn harness
Brutus against niru with sav behind athalia mid ez and khaos maybe
Well guess its time for rng taverns
Don’t use light against graveborn team @autumn harness
Yeah my light tanks are getting fked cos of the graveborns
Who is the backline again? @steep cape
Need help 7-40
Who else you have @small acorn
Also, try using Tasi against Niru. (Just a thought)Well, not "against", just as bait
@sudden sparrow so whats the full line up from 1-5?
Your tanks as ez and Brutus with sav behind Brutus athalia mid and khaos back. Khaos is just for hp bonus
Who is ez and brutus against niru or vedan
Ascend Tasi, Saveas and Brutus, that should take you a lil bit further
Current lineup. Should I just sit and wait till L,L+ Arden and Saveas or swap? Can send pic of my other heroes
Also, upgrade your formation heroes at least 10 lvls
Who is ez? @steep cape
Sure Ascension makes a bit of a difference, but people keep using L and E+ heroes against Ascended heroes on lategame so the real deal are the level differences
@small acorn personally id try athalia back middle Brutus against niru shem back behind Brutus then run grez and Baden if he’s any good at that level? Other option would be Brutus athalia sane spots with Arden tasi and Lyca?
@autumn harness ezih your purple guy
Oh okay thanks
Starting to feel like there is no beating this level haha. 20-12
Don't use her Frontline then @upper plover
she survives bottom
@steep cape
Lyca, brutus, nem, shem, tasi
Got a clutch charm on enemy arden and he rooted his own team
Anyone willing to help me figure out a formation/lineup? My frontliners are dying pretty quick but that could just be where I'm at right now
Hello all. Still new to this game. Maybe the wrong channel, but am I better off with a Rare Saveas, with an Elite Thane, or an Elite+ Vurk?
You mean screenshot my heroes?
Yes @cursive iris
@steep cape yep
@small acorn 👍🏻 he’s usually the one you have to nuke first
@upper plover beatable just need right formation and rng
@tall shard id run ghetz and shem. Build saveas as soon as possible and level him the most then run with athalia and khaos for time being. Can also run khaos front and shem back @cursive iris khaos vurk sav belinda hogan so those would be my primary guys to level with focus on sav and hogan for time being
@tall shard just an FYI (not sure if you did or not), but don’t use ascended tier heroes as fodder. That said... weird collection with no decent tanks. Shemira isn’t a good carry dps until after 160. Ira is serviceable for now but she’ll get outclassed very soon. Try to build a saveas ASAP. He’s the single most important hero until you hit 161. Progression isn’t impossible without him, but it is much slower.
@tall shard what @plucky flint said however shem can carry with dps if you can keep her alive to kit until around chapter 8
@silent wraith that power differential is scary
very
Ascended shem will do that lol @silent wraith @plucky flint
Okay cool, thanks guys. I'll mess around with it with that advice in mind. Khaos keeps dying super quick so I wasn't sure if he was any good
@silent wraith put in tonnes of attempts with different formations, not even coming close at the moment
drop brutus, just go full wilders+shem
@tall shard khasos and estrilda are situationally useful heroes but neither are really meant to be tanks and are very squishy on the front line
I think I did fodder some acended heros, namely vurk and numisu but I'll keep that in mind from now on
Thank for the tips. If you use scrolls and run out of slots, do you lose the new heroes?
I would like to know that as well
it wont let u do a x10 pull unless u have space
I’ve never run into an issue running out of slots (there’s always fodder to be ascended). That said, I can’t imagine the game just vaporizes heroes you pull
does hypo and celestial work together?
cuz thats really the thing im trying to figure out
if i ran lets say 2 wilder, 2 hypo, and 1 celestial
would i get the 3 bonus from wilder as well as 3 bonus from hypo?
I think you would get the 3+2 bonus but not the 3 hypogean bonus.
@silent wraith hi bud, yeseryda u borrowed from Ice is for floor 60? Wondering if it's tough for all floor 60?
I borrowed ice for floor 57 XD
but its better if u can borrow a 5* brutus
now im stuck on 60, gotta wait a week till i can borrow again
@silent wraith ... Then think it's too tough for me.. tks
which floor u on
40+.. Then give up.. lol.. didn't really push for it
yeah I dont push unless u have brutus 200, rest 180
@silent wraith noted. Tq
Any tip ? 22-52
Anyone know the wey for 19-24
@proud pelican this might sound stupid but you actually need to use arden here and hope he rooted thane as much as possible
Help with 11-24 please
@manic kayak
LOL bro the wey works.. tasi killed golus when she had no health lol
u passed it?
Is there a way I can make silvina atk tasi instead of arden?
Newbie here to the game. Started yesterday.
Is there a line up or bunch of toon that I should focus on Early game?
@faint quest make her def lower than arden
This is my current roster. 😃
Oh ok thx
@devout pond saveas
Guys its my characters . Help with team pls
https://i.imgur.com/Kv7qzBj.png
https://i.imgur.com/48pruy5.png
formation used for 21-54 since this discord lacked info on it
brutus-blade
ulmuas-chalice
nemora-call
belinda-duras conviction
lyca-eye
@faint quest gears. Make sure tasi get lower def from gears
@ViciousBagel @9 ℑ𝔤𝔥𝔱 . 戀 any tips for 20-12 ?
stuck at 8-16 on my alt
Any idea how to clear this stage?
@silent wraith yea with first try now I’m stuck at 26
Light floor 50 ideas?
Ans tips? 16-20, my heroes are melting linke butter
@robust coral Shem brutus lyca tasi nemora / arden
If not switch tasi for athalia and aim for isa
@robust coral
@hasty nebula go ascend those heroes
@silent wraith @manic kayak - thx you both, but silv is just running through my backline, Kipling mages with 1-2 hits. Screened your tips and will try it later again after pushing some gear and lv to 180
I'm stuck on 9-20 if I can get any help here is the level and my crew.
does placing heroes in specific spots make things easier or harder depending on where they are?
Try
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca/tasi
Nemora double charms nemora+ anything and Arden roots Arden and khasos @sleek portal
Who does tasi banish
@hushed girder congrats
@still oar that's what im trying so hard to acomplish, but the spot arden and tasi is dies after first root
no FeelsBadMan
had to put brutus where warek was and it worked
Any help with mine?
@cursive summit
Nemora
Saveas/Lucius
Tasi
Lucius/Saveas
Arden
I'm I'll try. Ty
I hope it works XD the trick to this stage is a crap ton of crowd control and a really good dps and tank
@sleek portal your formation looks good. How's the result? Instant wipe out or?
You can try nemora bot to charm Arden, or sub in tasi over nemora or even lyca if your Arden is fast than enemy Arden. Tasi should banish Kho?
See which one gives better results and can continue try it for perfect RNG.
@pale kettle i literally beat 9-20 earlier today, it's difficult and was rng dependant for me lol
@cursive summit and Fawkes, if you are able to eliminate 1 hero, rearrange your heroes and you can probably get the stage clear. That's about all the advice I can give
I beat 9-20 with this setup. Just now. The enemies are that of 9-21 but those guys I used to beat 9-20 finally
Nice!
Congrats!
Any help on 17-6? I’m using the same formation i used for 16-40 but i’m getting wiped 😭
I know lyca makes a questionable frontline but shemira doesn’t survive at all in her place
Any advice for 18-14?
@zinc wren did you try neo instead of Fawkes? Or tasi?
Can someone tell me how to beat this level bc I can't even attempt to beat it cuase of of all the support on enemy team
@timid stratus oh good lord rip you
Ikr 
Any improvement for my top 5? Who should I replace?
@empty sierra I’m biased but sav+brutus+lyca/Arden/tasi/nemora got me to 14-20 way ahead of schedule based on the levels of all the other teams I see around me.
Any tips ?
Any team reccomendations/hero swaps to somehow beat this big pile of bs
@timid stratus can i see a full hero list?
Gimme a sec..
@fierce kayak I think you want tasi to bait silvina and may be try putting lyca in there replacing nem. Put brutus in front of grezhul and shem on top
@pseudo bear ya.. tried a lot of compo already. But will try yours once again. Tks!
But what's does tasi do if she can't even tele away?
@proud pelican its 22-42?
@steel moat
@pale kettle 22-52
wait maybe i had ss somewher
@fierce kayak you need to hope that she teleport away
@pseudo bear ok
@timid stratus
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Athalia
Arden
Or
Athalia
Tasi
Nemora
Lucius
Arden
I wonder how much damage your athalia does 🤔
This is the stage in stuck on fyi
@fierce kayak try this shem arden-shem, lyca, tasi -brutus
@proud pelican Im sure i had battle reports somewher just need to scroll a ton on my mobil lol
@pseudo bear Tasi need to tank first hit before tele away right?
Yeah i saw, i beat it with the same backline i suggested but saveas and estrilda in frontline
@timid stratus have you tried lyca + wilders cc + Lucius and Shem? Nemora across from nemora, she charms enemy nemora who charms one of her own team
Also here's my current athilia progress @steel moat
@pale kettle thanks 🙏
@fierce kayak yeah can she do that?
Is your saveas stronger than her?
@steel moat the comp I always use if I see that comp
@pseudo bear she can't.. that's why I use nemora bait.. lol..
And dont really want get her and stuck at L
Still don’t have elite vedan to make shem mythic+ 

wait lyca is frontline hero?
@sly sparrow lyca dies fast on front line but she’s only there to haste your team at the start
@steel moatyes...
@pseudo bear thane and estrilda shredded shemira
@plucky flint thats her only purpose? doesnt she shred defense ratings?
Also @plucky flint no I havent tried that
Ah ok, then try
Tasi
Saveas/Lucius
Nemora
Saveas/Lucius
Arden
If that doesn’t work try the athalia setup, her first ability will give an enemy of your choice a major disadvantage
@sly sparrow I only use her for the haste. And she’s on the front line in 95% of campaign battles for me.
I rely on Brutus defense down + sav + cc for the rest
My lyca gets destroyed in frontline 😳
makes sense cuz she isnt tank
it doesnt really matter, she just buys time for shemira
Not enough time
i think she needs better gear
show me stage
Who should I put frontline...
That should be fine
@timid stratus nemora should be opposite nemora.
Alrighty then 
is a great idea to ascend saveas with another saveas and khasos? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428130888962801686/602755379503562772/Screenshot_2019-07-22-08-53-06-722_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.png
NO
its because khasos or saveas?
@glad matrix no, don’t use ascended tier heroes as fodder. I wish there was a bot that said this whenever anyone asks whether they should use x hero for fodder
ye that would be nice
but saveas cant go past gold+ right? you mean because khasos right?
Khasos is the ascended tier hero that you want to use as fodder. Don’t.
@pale kettle
I have brutus but he’s only legendary and makes a worse tank than estrilda, this setup worked for 16-40 but it’s failing me now 
So shuld i kill my saveas to upgrade khasos?
@steel moat well im at chap 9 and he is doing better for me than estrilda... i dont even use her now
Probably has to do with ascension tier and levels/gear
@steel moat uhh maybe we will play 4 wilders and shemira, shemira btw would do better where nemora is i think and what if we put nemora as tank on estrilda spot and we change estrilda for tasi. I mean it might fail but could work once nemora its 180
@steel moat i have him on L too... and not really best gears
@glad matrix no. Wait till you get more fodder. Then ascend sav. If you get lucky, you might be able to save the E+ extra sav you already have and be able to take your current sav straight from E+ to L+
Ok i’ll try that
okii thx @plucky flint
Eeek nemora got wiped in secs
I’m applying for a mythic brutus to see if it would work with him
oh yeah you can just borrow a hero lol
Also stuck their too? XD @steel moat
Yep
feels bad man
I got far in that stage with this comp but didn't beat it yet :(
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus(for u estrilda)
Tasi
I’m scared to put shemira in front of kaz because usually she gets wrecked
good luck guys you can do it 😃 @steel moat @faint quest
Yep that's true but with the rng of arden, kaz can't do anything if u get lucky, and thx! @sly sparrow
youre welcome ♥
Thanks! @sly sparrow
What tier and level is your shemira by the way @faint quest ?
She is ascended 180 :/ so it may not work for u atm
Eep mine is only mythic and 180 T__T
uhm guys mine is E 120
Chpt 17 mainly requires M+ Shem 181+ at least, I wish u luck on ur gb pulls
@steel moat
Need to start working on her soon @sly sparrowxD
lol i will try 😄
Thanks XD I just need a couple more rare fodders to get the elite vedan i need to make her mythic +
@sly sparrow you’ll get there, i never pull graveborn from faction scrolls and still got her mythic! Plus you can buy her in lab and get her from peaks of time and ch 15 completion rewards
^
well i bought her from lab, on peaks of time im only on rest in peace, and im stuck at chap 9... so none is happening
If u find a way to beat the stage @ me plz uwu @steel moat
Which PoT has Shem as a reward?
The divine realm, @faint quest i will!
Divine realm? Something with divine
Whats the best team i can make? And should i buy estrilda or shemira from lab store?
Shemira @tawny jewel
shemira first then estrilda later
@tawny jewel shemira, your estrilda is already leg+ and won’t need copies of herself to ascend for a while
Always Jenna marbles girl never old town road chick
@faint quest lol
Oh my god 😂
And what abut my lineup
Ok phew I thought y'all would be like"????"
@tawny jewel Try using this formation: Grezhul/Lucius
Lucius/Grezhul
Estrilda/Lyca/Shemira
Belinda
Shemira/Estrilda/Lyca
This is what i am currently using. Vedan is always the last 1 alive and he 1v4 my team with no problem
imo since i tried them all grezhul estrilda and lucius arent very reliable mid game (lvl120-180), brutus should be better, those three really shines later after lvl181
Honestly I'd go
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca
Brutus
Shemira
From where ur at
@tawny jewel
@faint quest tasi isnt mine. Shes from a friend
and you will need a crowd controll hero like arden/tasi to get through
@tawny jewel Estrilda is not a good tank, she's more of a support, but Lycas buff is better (in my opinion)
U got E tasi though put her in the crystal @tawny jewel
arden E+ can do better than you might think, should try him
He gets 2 hit by silvina. Doesnt even get his roots off
Oof btw @grave flowercan u tell me what levels/chapters are early/mid/late game?
@faint quest that really is more of my own experience thing but i consider 1-120/120-180 and 180+ are the ranks
Alright cool thx!
cause you can see the significant difference in strength in many heroes after those checkpoints
Do u think i should reset estrilda?
she is good after 181 but if you dont plan to raise her soon then should just reset and keep her there and use ingredients for others
For that level I'd prob do
Shemira
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Tasi (make sure for tasi to have lower defense than any other mage) @tawny jewel
she is kinda squishy for a tank but after 181 she gets a 30% received damage reduced that makes her really beefy
So who should i overlevel as my carry
shemira is the one
Even in mid game?
shemira can do well at any stages
Early/mid/late she is good all the way people just say "she's not good until 161+" which imo isn't true since they're just used to using saveas more
Ok . Also idk but my licius is rly good esp with duras call which is my second duras item. I dont know if i wanna remove him
well it's not like you have to reset him tho, just try different line ups for different maps
there are certain maps that he will be better than others and vice versa
@grave flower thats true. So should i just level up the characters with the highest ascention tier so elite heroes can ignore level cap
yeah that's the idea
Oh ok. Also does the ascention tier matter as much for cc supports? Or will elite tasi be too weak
it does, you cant expect to clear if your supporters die so quickly that all of the enemies gang up on your carry
i nomrally just overlevel shemira to the max possible then turn to supporters, there will be conditiôn before you can raise your highest level
to the next stage, like you cant level one past 200 if others arent all at least 160
@faint quest gratz bud, passing chap 16-40
So this is what i did. Who should i level next
for now keep rasing gre and est until you can get shemira to L+ then switch to her
oh get all of them to 140 first
@grave flower okay .Thanks for the help dude
my pleasure
@faint quest @tawny jewel idk. I feel I consistently beat shemira-carry teams at my level, in what are basically mirror matches otherwise. Makes me think sav is considerably better than her up to 160. Other bonus is that sav gets 3+2 faction bonus (if you use Brutus + wilders)
Help
Charm ferael ezpz
Yezzz ez
@sleek portal level difference too high, i think its best to wait to summon more dupes
i charmed nemora and she charms her farael
Git gud then
You are definetely strong enough to win, just try more
@plucky flint i used sav and even got him to lvl 141 with brutus lyca arden and gorvo. But idk i was stuck at ch 9. Then i got 2 lucius pulls and switched to lb gaven. and i skipped ch 10.
in my exp usually it'll be very hard when your total power is less than 2/3 of the enemies
@sleek portal i was way more weak when i beat that stage. Im still weaker than you at 18-16
@shut marsh may i know what';s the lineup?
did my message go through? im not sure how discord works.
slowmode is on you can only send message every 30 secs
i was asking "would you say shemira/brutus level helped to go to 18-16"
@tawny jewel I guess maybe cause gorvo kinda sucks. Don’t think sav-Brutus works as well without flexibility offered by tasi+nemora in addition to lyca and Arden
Shemira was level 181 i guess when i beat 17-36
I have no idea what i should do here. Or am i stuck cos of too low power?
Just spam more to get RNG on your side
181 means next asension rank dude... his is only M
it's one skill level and loads of stats up
@plucky flint i need 1 rare saveas to get brutus to legendary. Maybe then my lineup will be:
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
What are your thoughts?
any suggestion on line up ?
%15 stat but my rest of team were 160. His team is strong. @grave flower
@humble pine 16-20?
@fierce kayak , 15-40
@humble pine use wilders.
@tawny jewel sure. Depends on the stage. I switch out my wilders all the time until I find the right combo, and then I spam the stages pretty aggressively until rng shines its light
Its hard to beat a gb stage with lb team tho
when you use that line up, almost all of the damage is done by shemira, everyone else are just stalling for time to get shemira's ultimate off and if she's not strong enough she wont kill in time tho
which artifact should i use for shemira? im using energy for nemora and crit for shemira am i doing it wrong
@humble pine use meta team, drop tasi.
Arden/lyca
Brutus/shemiea
NEMORA
Shemira/brutus
Lyca/arden
Key is nemora charm fereal. If no Brutus just try other tanks
@plucky flint what factions do you use in your team?
@grave flower this dude has enough power to kill 17-36. Im pretty sure of it. Its just RNG. @sleek portal you need to get Blade first.
@sleek portal im using energy for shemira
@shut marsh well true RNG can be your miracle, its just too tiring to try too many times tho haha
@tawny jewel for campaign, I use exclusively some 5-man combo of sav Brutus lyca tasi Arden nemora. Usually drop nemora of that group but sometimes she’s vital. Once I get another Shem copy, I’ll take her to M and reset sav
@humble pine hope this helps.
@grave flower well its kind of funny if you like grinding 
@plucky flint ok i see. Thanks i will give it a try
@shut marsh i only do it when i have nothing to pass the time with haha
What would be the best lineup here?
Brutus, Shem, Tasi, nemora and Athalia?
Hello, Do I need to focus on specific heroes here ? Or am I just too early in the game to even bother ?
Any way i could set my lineup to advance?
Most commonly used lineup but dies in seconds
Having trouble getting past this fight in peaks of time: divine realm. If I can beat this, and three more fights, I can get my Shem to M :O
HELP THIS ONE IS DRIVING ME INSANE
@ember stone Raine will be important with her knockback, I'd put her in the bottom backline, so she will focus Vedan.
If you can survive long enough that Belinda and Thane could time their ultimate moves, and keep your Lucius with good gear so he will survive the harrasment from Ferael, you should be able to beat it!
@terse blaze Put Brutus instead of Lucius, and see if it helps.
Best of luck!
@gentle knot Do you have a Lyca? If yes, use her instead of Nemora.
Make sure Shemira silences enemy Shemira.
For better advice, please share your hero roster ^^
Massive help, guys :)
I'm stuck on 9-40. Any advice?
@wise merlin tyty I'll try it rn
@humble pine with nemora mid?
I got insta deleted again
@fierce kayak it was
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Lyca
Light hero
@humble pine o.. Nemora charm Fareal or? Anyway.. gratz!
Fancy numbers I see @dusky parrot, try:
Khasos
Ogi (sice Lucius is week against GB)
Athalia
Belinda
Eironn(?
@gentle knot
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora / Tasi / Arden
Shemira
Saveas
If you want a better advice, as mentioned above, do share your hero roster
@gentle knot you can try mine or use what @humble pine mentioned
@sudden sparrow Ok.
@fierce kayak haven't really followed the fight as I had to spam several times 😃
@humble pine ic... cos tasi will banish Fereal and nemora can't charm him. Anyway.. glad you got pass. G luck
Ty
@humble pine o.. no wonder. I Atalia. She's a wild card always!
@dusky parrot if you still find yourself stuck, try and ask for someoneto lend you a Tasi and a Shemira and your all Gucci
@fierce kayak I simply used her to stunIsabella for some type so that Lyca wouldn't die instantly 😄
@sudden sparrow It work! thank you so much!
@humble pine nice
@dusky parrot You're very welcome m8
Now need one more copy of shemira to make her ascended...
@humble pine Lab store man, u got this
@sudden sparrow in 26 days, yes 😄
Nred help with the lineup please, can't get past this lvl
@humble pine It'll be worth it
7-24 just recibed belinda. Is she worth feeding for me?
@south estuary Lucius instead of Thoran and try using Mehira instead of Tasi
@south estuary try
Belinda
Brutus
Fawkes
Lucius
Tasi
^
Any suggestions?
https://imgur.com/cZZOFrr Current team on left, I could upgrade my Tasi to legendary using 2 elite+ Ardens but not sure where I would fit her in or if its worth it
Hm. My Brutus dies pretty quickly. Enemy Brutus shreds through half my team when he casts ult :( @wise merlin
My team is actually retarded
That helped thx guys down to 1 I can't kill
@south estuary try spamming it and hope that random will help you :))
^ let the rng do the job
Scrap that 2nd time 5/5 alive of my team, thx 😂 😂 😂
@gentle knot I used Shemira in slot that your brutus is in
@south estuary glad it helped :))
Noice
I tried everything
@gentle knot I have passed 15-40 minutes ago :)
My team was:
Nemora (M)
Shemira (M+)
Tasi (L)
Lyca (L)
Athalia (L)
You can try using Arden instead of Athalia, because to me it was important to stan Isabella so that Lyca would stay alive for some time at least
I'm gonna kill myself
Any advice on on line up after fawkes is gone?
16-4 possible at all with my heroes as of now?
@unreal solar should raise your backline's level up a bit more
Working on it
@terse blaze Think some better gear on him might help? Gear makes a huge difference.
Yea, should definitely help. As soon as the store stops giving me the weapon only lol
The best team from this?
@unreal solar yep, sometimes it pays to put lyca on front and shem backline. Because lyca is just therr for the haste. Doesnt matter if she dies. Also if you have tasi sub her for nemora. Her slumber skill will get you heaps of wins witb shem ult
can anyone help?
Stuck on 15-40
Stuck on 9-24
@crude hinge that's a pretty optimal comp, higher ascension lyca would help a lot, otherwise just afk and up that shembrut
@open thicket try Brutus and 4 wilders, lyca bottom to focus niru, nemora charms ferael
@tepid current not entirely sure but try to use lyca tasi arden/nemora and maybe Belinda and estri/ezizh and see what happens with those cc lol
@ionic jackal sounds good thx!
When I tried that @ionic jackal the battle lasted a lot longer but my team did close to 0 dmg lol. Couldn't kill a single guy
@tepid current it pretty much rely on Belinda killing things with estri buff
I used tasi Belinda arden then estrilda/lyca Frontline and it went OK i guess? Still not close to beating it. Belinda did a lot of dmg but not enough by herself
@open thicket check above a bit, we were talking about 15-40 around 1-2 hours ago
https://imgur.com/cZZOFrr Current team on left, I could upgrade my Tasi to legendary using 2 elite+ Ardens but not sure where I would fit her in or if its worth it
@sharp swan I would do it, as Ardens are pretty common
I still use tasi elite+ in chapter 20 haha
I regret ascending my nemora cuz she still doesn't rly do anything
@ionic jackal is Estrilda a really good hero?
@sharp swan reset Thoran and Upgrade Tasi
Put Thoran on the Crystal if you feel like it @sharp swan
Who would be my front line?
@tepid current was feeling the same until 15-40 😄
@humble pine you use her if you want to kill things fast with rush dps at very high level, in general all tanks are pretty solid post 181 including warek lol and you can build a team with them
Brutus and lucius' just happen to outshined tanks
@ionic jackal then I regret my f**k up even more :DDDD Accidentaly fed her to Bellinda for M+ instead of Hogan...
I guess, as I cannot revert anything (and support won't be lifting a finger for my non-paying prays 😃
Plus you can still buy estri on lab hahaha
I use my elite+ estri as a fodder too a long time ago, and I need 2 copies now to get her ascended lol
After shemira only 😄 mine was L+ so it hurts a lot 😄 I was debating if I should make her M or push Belinda to M+ with Hogan 😄 Well, I guess none of these 😄
How does reverting work?
Check in the cart, there is a separate tab, but as I understood, if you have 2 copies of the same hero at L+, you can revert one of the copies to get all your resources back (+ hero cards of course)
Ohhh u need 2 copies
It's just a way to correct your mistake of bringing the same hero to L+
Anyone able to help on 20-12
@small acorn I haven't reach here yet but its similar to my chap.
Does nemora charm Fareal? Cos I found tasi banish fareal and nemora cant charm fareal for mine. So I remove tasi.
Tasi banishes shemira so its ok
Ic.. can't help then.. sorry. Since I not there yet. Go search for line-up history see if anything helps.
This is the comp to win it. Did some research. Just havent had any luck on rng and may need some lvls
See howiy goes
Ic.. ya.. chap 20 gonna be the most tough. So G luck on retrying and RNG.
wow im legit at chap 9 and i feel exact same like you guys
Haha.. G luck to you too buddy
thanks mate 😄 9-30 hoping to get through... been trying brutus kaz front, arden seirus nemora back but seirus isnt really that good... i had tasi but sadly since she is lend out i cant use her anymore
Can you send a screenshot of battle screen where we can see your team and opponnents
I can not log into my account
After pulling my first two Lucius yesterday, I went on a rampage that finished Peaks of Time Ancient Ruins and lasted feom 12-4 through 12-27.
Now stuck at 12-28 and hoping you can help 😅
@humble pine you meant me?
@fierce kayak I managed to get stuck at 17-24 now I got passed 17-12, I love how when I was stuck at 17-4 and 17-12 I used your L+ Arden, ❤
@sly sparrow yep 😃
Enemy Golus is nasty and enemy Khasos is a holy terror <.<
Okay here you go @humble pine
@warm ocean nice. Gratz.. feel free to pm me if you need and I didn't accept.
@umbral badger have you tried belinda instead of arden?
@sly sparrow have you tried swapping places of your front row?
I honestly think at this point, I just need to wait for summons and get everyone M+ lvl 200 so I can power through things, cause my teams atk rating is like 650k but I'm fighting almost 1 mil people @fierce kayak
i thought brutus should be against niru to absorb his dmg? i mean idk im just stupid 😄
@warm ocean chill bud.. I am at 580k power and in chap 18 now. You can do it too 👌
im 620k power chapter 17
~500k ch 16
Ic.. you guys can do it! Just need to try more and pray RNG
@fierce kayak well I guess I just need a L+ Arden then lol
@sly sparrow try it 😄 maybe it will work out somehow 😄
Can i get some help pls? 17-6 https://gyazo.com/7d2d292990f3374f8e63aeabf3f36561 https://gyazo.com/afbf082143a3ab9f745c01e841efb7bb
oh and swap places of two upper backrow 😃
I have also tried this, among other things
oh no next stage has M Isabella i hate her so much... and Silvina good lord 😄
@humble pine I will gear swap and put in Belinda to see whether she can help
@umbral badger I just like having aura for a bit of damage boost :D
@sly sparrow I fear Isabella a lot more than I fear Silvina. She just melts my team sometimes with her ult
oh god what do i do now 😄
@pale kettle try 4 Wilders.
Tasi/arden
Shemira
Arden/tasi
Lyca
Nemora
@umbral badger reset everyone to 140, except Arden 141. And push Shemira 180 first.
Then use Shem and brutus/another tank, Wilders Cc back
@sly sparrow just see how it goes
so same matchup?
I usually don't change lineup until I try several times 😄
well i actually won...
@humble pine That Golus is murderous. Really cuts through my formation and even Saveas
@sly sparrow Gratz bud. But it's really funny when you say you got stuck and I saw 2 little cute lord dreafs there... ;)
hey they are actually annoying too... like not much but still xD but now im at 8-32 lets see how it goes
@umbral badger wow.. you totally ignore my suggestion. G luck to you then. I tried.. 😂
god its Vedan + Niru again... 😄 this is going to be sooo fun... but at least here is no Silvina or Isabella
well i won again... thats strange 😄
@fierce kayak man let him try to work it out with his current lineup and then do your suggestion :)) Copied your advice so it's visible
`@Fennore (12-28) totally shemless reset everyone to 140, except Arden 141. And push Shemira 180 first.
Then use Shem and brutus/another tank, Wilders Cc back`
@humble pine cos even if he get pass this stage.. he won't progress far. It's fine bud.. no worries. Thanks ;)
I agree that Shemira M+ does wonders (starting with 161+)
It's actually quite basic to overlevel Carry. And he is even better than me.. mine only M Shemira at that time.
@fierce kayak If only that Shemira was mine
@umbral badger ic.. sorry I missed out on that. But thought maybe you should at least replied me. G luck bud. ;)
@fierce kayak I was trying something but I never ignore you or anyone else. Also having coffee ^^;
@umbral badger np. Have fun and G luck for your progress ^_^
8-36
@fierce kayak man, you sound so hurt :(( let me giveyou a hug 🤗
@fierce kayak 17-24 silvana just kills shemira wherever she is
@humble pine lol.. I am really fine. But thanks for your hug anyway 
I will buy my first Shem soon with lab coin, and then work on pulling or buying three more copies. As I get close to having her at L+ I will keep GB fodder for her so she can be my carry after I outgrow Saveas.
@umbral badger what were you getting ftom the Lab before?
My nickname is because I have incredulously bad luck a summoning heroes. I have at least one copy of EVERY hero except Shemira, hence my name 😰
Help
@warm ocean silv aim for your tasi right? Tasi behind Brutus.
Nemora middle back charm fareal.
Sometimes I didn't see lyca at enemy line-up, I drop lyca and use Arden. But think you don't have anymore food Arden already?
Shem and Brutus swap and try around see who is better at top or bot.
@intrx#2828 Early game I bought blue stones, then purple. In chapter 11 I bought Nemora because 2nd copy was the chapter completion reward so instant Legendary healer for me. Now I have 39k lab coin toward Shem.
@fierce kayak no silvana jumps on shemira no matter where I put her at I can try kaz instead of lyca and I can make Brutus M+ if I sack L+ saveas
@warm ocean no way. Your Shem defends lower than tasi?!
Wait.. wow.. your team is so powerful!
Change gear if needed to draw Silv to tasi instead of Shem.
It's hurting when all your others are OP but Shem still M..
Any suggestions on my lineup?
Two Saveas? Reset/remove lower one and boost Shem
@pale kettle it's a bit too early for line up suggestions :)) But you should work on one single Saveas, Shemira, Brutus, Belinda IMHO and then see what copies you have after some time
...or Brutus since he works well with Saveas
That ones glitched when I try to lvl it up or put it in my team it says “you do not possess this hero”
Just go with Shem, Brutus, Tasi, Athalia & Saveas or Golus
Now then, can someone give me an idea for a line-up, 18-39
Any idea for 11-16 please ?
@turbid fern
Nemora
Estrilda
Tasi
Hendrik
Saveas
@fierce kayak I'll try some Wilders CC to see whether that will help, and continue working toward getting my own Shem such that I can over level her. By the time I get four copies (unless RNGesus does something strange) I will likely be able to reset Saveas, put him on my crystal, and give Shem a free ride to L 160 then beyond because Saveas will by that time likely finishing his role as my defaullt carry 😎
@turbid fern u should be maxing Saveas before anyone btw cuz hes ur strongest
@hard gorge sorry, don't really know what to suggest to you
@umbral badger G luck buddy! 
@9 ℑ𝔤𝔥𝔱 . 戀#7893 Much appreciated!
@pale kettle switch arden and shemira place i think thats how i beat it
Any advice on mine? 8-36, Niru and Silvina are being problems as usual. Typically ends with Saveas dying last
Just go with Athalia mid, Arden back down, Shemira front top, Tasi back top
@hybrid zinc try this too
Belinda
Hogan
Thane
Brutus
Saveas
Mine? I don’t have Tasi 😭 I’ll try Teemo’s suggestion though
Not you, Uh Gyazi or what his name is
@fierce kayak btw support told me that I'm dumb for using Estrilda as food and they won't help me
@humble pine did they really use the word dump? You mean dev?
@fierce kayak ofc no 😄 they just said double check what you're using next time :))
@humble pine using ascended tier heroes as fodder is always bad if u wanna play this game for long time u need ascended heroes for level cap
@humble pine cos I think many ppl tried asking but failed to get back
@fierce kayak sup dude u still stuck on your stage or did u make progress?
@viscid hazel I know. It was a mistake, I was suppossed to use Hogan as food, but misclicked and automatically pressed yes 😄 I specially created L+ Hogan for that single purpose 😄
Best possible team for pve and what’s the best possible team for pvp for me
@regal swallow get saveas to 140, he's the best DPS at those levels
@regal swallow I would go with this
Belinda
Brutus
Atahlia
Lucius
Saveas
Keep an eye out for Arden’s he’s strong at 120-160 and shemira is always great especially after 161
@regal swallow it’s not too great for pushing stages if all of ur heroes are at the same level consider over leveling ur main dps (propably saveas) then Tanks then supports ~15-20 lvls up on saveas should be good
@viscid hazel erm.. which stage did I seek for help for being stuck again?
Cos I dunno.. no matter how much we progress.. we still get stuck? Currently stuck at chap 18 tho.. haha..
@south herald Thank you, I'll give this a try. I know abouty saevas, I had him L+ 2 days ago
@viscid hazel I already prep for that.. lol.. 15-40 and 16-20 have already make me very strong (patience) now..
@south herald Estrilda is getting nuked in 2 hits and all the others die shortly after >:
Best line for 11 36?
@turbid fern lvl up tbh ur a bit underlevel imo xd
Haha, I thought so xD Thanks for the advice, I'll just chill for a few days. I know I've made quite some progress without even playing for a month 😃
I've been knowing that I was underlevel for King's tower as soon as I've hit floor #141 where all heroes are ascended and they nuke me way too fast lol
How do I beat this?
Swap athalia and shemira for good start
Pls help 6-28
Help please
Hey guys an girls I Need your Help at 15-40 , i rushed through chapter 15 but hard stuck now
@wicked zenith
Arden
Brutus
Nemora (should charm ferael)
Shemira
Tasi/Lyca
This stage takes a bit of rng for nemora charm to work correctly
@wicked zenith Cordelia is right. Use meta team. As long as nemora is back middle will do
@pale kettle use meta team. Try:
Shemira top, Grezhul bot, Wilders CC backline (try and see whomever works best).
You will need Arden mate. Build a L+ Arden.
@tidal maple
Belinda
Hogan
Mirael (put her on resonating)
Lucius
Brutus(?)
I can’t see who else you have so this is what i got XD
@tidal maple need to see full roster for better recommendation. Drop ira he is wilder. Belinda Shemira I usually only use one of them.. Belinda as a Light hero should work better here.
@steel moat u progress fast 
Guys.. do post stage enemies and full roster for better advise. Thank you. Have fun :)
Lmao thanks! But i’m stuck at 17-6 now
full wilder team with arden
17-6 sucked, I got stuck there for a while now stuck on 17-24
Wanna see the stage. Bet u don't use dreaf that's why u stucked
Full enemy wilder, Almost the same as 16-40 but with ira instead of nemora so lyca doesn’t tank as well
Ugh my pic won’t load, gimme a sec haha
17-24 is a big pain too 😃
Roster is a little outdated but same heroes
I think I used Brutus instead of estrilda
@steel moat & @fierce kayak thank you very much trying it out now.
Any tips im at 9-4
I might just be underlevelled 🤔 i think getting everyone above 161 might help
Why try
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi.
Put the shield on Shem. So she don't die fast on Kaz.
Alright will try it
@steel moat if lyca can't offtank.. then use Shemira top, Brutus bot
Or Brutus behind lyca bot
Or Shem behind lyca top.
Cos I rmb when 4 Wilders don't work, I use back shem and Brutus tank.
I think i use
Shem
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
On that stage @steel moat so maybe try this too
Cordelia is quite popular

Its the first one i see when i open lineup help.... xd
Haha 😅 thanks guys, will a legendary only brutus cut it or does he have to be mythic?
Yes my dear
ugh i felt so great about passing so fast but now im stuck at 9-35 damn it
@steel moat mine is L+ Brutus tho. But.. L Brutus should still be fine? He is just there to buy time anyway
@pale kettle can you send a pic of the enemy lineup?
@pale kettle try
Saveas
Lucius
Belinda
Thoran
Mirael
Maybe mirael middle idk try it
Ah ok i see
@south herald thats what we call pro! Can advise without enemy line-up.. lol..
@fierce kayak i passed it im stuck here now
Lol.. everyone stuck Wilders team
@pale kettle grat mate
@fierce kayak i mean if i see the enemy it would be easier as in i can make better ones but thanks anyway xd
Any help guys?
@south herald lol... i thought you memorize by hard
I am excited to see you guys at 20. Bidoof and me will throw a welcome party mates
@sly sparrow try nemora on top so she charm those annoying brats arden mid then serius bot
@fierce kayak & @steel moat thank you sososooo much finally beaten this stage now shem ascended is happening
@fierce kayak that would make me a super computer lmao its impossible
Wilders wilders everywhere
@wicked zenith gratz!
@south herald nope that didnt work... didnt even kill anyone
@pale kettle what's stage is this?
Can you ss this pic together with full roster again?
@sly sparrow use silvina for distraction there r two mages at the bck
@sly sparrow u need a main damage dealer then... getting saveas up to L+ will be a very good idea try and focus on a carry
oh ye i forgot they are mages
but yeah this is not happening... theyre too strong... i might wait and level up my heroes then try it again
Congrats @wicked zenith!
@pale kettle
Nemora
Saveas
Arden
Lucius
Ira(?) trying to keep factional bonus lol, but nemora arden lucius and saveas are the important parts
@sly sparrow Saveas is ur cheatcode until 16-4 focus on overleveling him
i dont overlevel heroes though... it then feel inconvenient so i level all heroes at once one by one... idk it helps me 🤷
I encourage her . So sorry
Got passed it
congrats @pale kettle
Congrats!
Hmm i still can’t get past 17-6 XD my frontline gets wiped really quickly and then shemira dies 
lol same here... i hate Vedan he is such a sneaky bastard 😄
So no thoran anymore and i keep belinda ?
I think i just need mythic+ 181 shemira and maybe all my other heroes to be 161+
@pale kettle Belinda is really nice mage so i recommend keeping her ♥
@steel moat haha all my heroes are at lvl 120 except Brutus Mirael and Kaz being at 121
Hi guys, I just started and this is what I have. What team do you recommend I start to build and pump levels into?
@lapis sand
Belinda
Saveas
Arden
Hogan
Fawkes
I’m not sure if it will work but fawkes should do a decent job of countering brutus XD you can also switch around the 2 frontlines
ugh i hate this stage... its not even a boss stage yet it still aggravates me 😄
@fierce kayak 14-38
@terse quail make sure to level saveas a ton because he’s a solo carry, also level arden whenever you can for his crowd control. Shemira will become a solo carry but not until level 161+, you should buy her and also nemora from the labyrinth. In the meantime hogan makes a really good starter tank for early game, and mirael does some nice damage too.
@pale kettle your stage is similar to @steel moat but lower power
@steel moat thanks! So I should just keep Shemira one side first still I’m around 161+?
@fierce kayak @steel moat who should o choose?
16-20 need help pls it’s so hard
@pale kettle I don't really have problems with Wilders team before chap 15/16 I think. I just use Shemira power thru.
I use meta team.
You have M gears?
@fierce kayak yes
I need a New team please help i Just get destroyed
I want to quit my facebook account how can I quit
@fierce kayak
@shy coyotei think these are the lineups that beat this stage if I am not wrong. Sorry.. pics to small for me to determine so u just upload amyway
@pale kettle only enhance if it's Wilders or GB bud... It's expensive
@fierce kayak i have a question what is meta team?
@pale kettle try
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
See if it works better?
@fierce kayak GB? Sorry i don't have enough knowledge
@pale kettle graveborm
Ive been stuck on 11-16 for ages now. I can’t seem to get anyone past the tier they are now
@fierce kayaki dont habe arden @sly sparrow ok thanks
@pale kettle GB is graveborn
Meta team is Brutus Shmira tank, Wilders CC (lyca tasi Arden nemora) back.
Arden 141 is important.
Alright thanks, I don’t think I can beat it at the moment looking at how strong those team used r
I need help im on chapter 7 and im Stuck i Just get destroyed please thanks in advance😁
Yep that’s good!
@terse quail i had shemira since fairly early game but never used her until ch 16 when i got her above 161
@fierce kayak ok i can make him elite plus
@pale kettle try use tasi first if no Arden. But Arden helps me a lot. I know a few don't use Arden tho
I used a really different setup, i think 3 lightbearer 2 wilder for that one 😳
@fierce kayak ok im gonna try now.. I didn't know there's something like meta team.. I always thought likr wilders vs wilders is a bad idea
guys im stuck again! last time u guys helped me loads! any tips for this?
Im Stuck on chapter 7 need a New team and tips thanks in advance :)
Stuck at 17-6 I've seen it cleared with less, any help appreciated
Hey guys! Could you recommend a team and lineup with these champ? I have been using athalia, nemora, tasi, hogan and estrilda and find that it's tough going through boss battles lately
Trying again. Im stuck at 11-16, i cant ascend any heroes right now, is it my lineup?
@silk tangle when things get tough, afk 👌 but srsly, you are still new so just afk and level up can solve most of the problems
@grave flower thanks! that's what i have been doing but waiting 2 days to win a battle is kinda crazy lol
making me impatient haha
trust me it gets longer than that at higher levels, im used to being stuck for 2 weeks+ on a map LOL
Kie could you help me?
Vurk and skreg ew
Wheres the saveas
@wet kindle with...?
Just go up in the chat
Hi folks, I'm new, was hoping I could get recommendation for a team
Ive tryed everything!!!!!!!
try hogan lucius saveas lyca arden?
Ok i Will try
@nimble yew what id do is id replace skreg hes pretty ass, crystal brutus and use him to tank the saveas instead, then you can try crystalling lucius too and swap him and rstrikda around to see if it works
Then this is a long term thing whichll prob take a long ass while but slowly build up your saveas and replace vurk with him
I have been using saveas, Brutus, tasi, numisu, golus. Is that a good lineup?
With what you have rn, i guess its not too bad but numisu's kinda ass and it would do you good to find a golus replacement asap
An arden would do you well to build up and put in
Not sure about ulmus's earlygame, but ive heard his lategame is very solid, so try checking up on how good he is too
@fierce arrow try building up arden instead of numisu
@frank scarab @grave flower thanks for the feedback! will see how arden works
The new 21-4, I know it's significantly easier than what it was before but I'm still struggling. Have I just reached the limit for 180 crystal or something?
should I use Hogun instead of Golus? I was kind of getting a good mauler bonus w/ 4 on the team.
u can switch back and forth between hogan and golus if things gets stuck @fierce arrow
Arden is very, very good and i can def vouch for him
Especially once you get him to level 141
Ulmus im not tooo sure of but checking if he works wouldnt hurt
Plus if he did, youd still keep fac bonus :P
I mean hogan and golus are both equally good, it just depends on what keeps your fac bonus
ulmus is really good after recent patch, worth investing in
Tho if you take numisu out and get an arden, either choice wont give you fac bonus hahaa
@fair sinew its a miracle you get that far with only 180 crystal, i even need a 240 shemira for that
@grave flower oh geez, I'll stop wasting my time trying then 😆
I need help with a New team im Stuck on 7-28 i dont know What to do i have tryed everything and i have been afk many days and still cant win😥
Stuck on 9-20 for days even with the help of other friends heroes
@wet kindle its really just that your heroes' levels are still low at the moment, be patient a little bit more
You can be stuck at 9-20 for weeks! Im trapped for almost a month 😂
Yeah maybe but ive waited so Long and the team you gave me did not work and i am not good at being patient lol
@worthy nimbus try swapping estrilda with seirus and belinda with saveas
@wet kindle well it's an afk game you know lol you progress by 'not playing it' 😂
Yeah true but ive already been afk so many days and im getting sick😫
Who have you been leveling up?
I think focus on Saveas he can give you damage
Ok thanks i can try
Feels so unfair... Those 2 silvinas just delete any mage I put back... If I use beefier team I lack the dps
put saveas in for belinda then?
swap nemora with tasi see if she can survive after the first hit
They take 90% hp on first second... It's 
if tasi survive the first hit she will blink away immediately
@grave flower worked immediately without losing a single hero, thanks!
@worthy nimbus glad to hear
They somehow manage to go after tasi after blink and kill her too.. will try a few more times.
@obtuse void brutus-estrilda front line, sav-fawkes-Lucius backline maybe? Or keep trying with tasi. If she can survive long enough to blink, then there is some rng where she survives till she can ultimate
I have borrowed M Lucius, M Brutus and L+ aquaman. So I can use one of those. @plucky flint
17-24 stuck any tips or placements or swaps ?
Hard stuck
@warm ocean try
lyca
brutus
athalia
shemira
tasi
@warm ocean change Nemora by an agility champ
@brisk tapir level up is the only way i can think of now, against a full faction team your team is pretty low level
Yeah :/
the faction buff is more than an ascension rank up (25% compare to 15%)
@grave flower when I use that, silvana jumps tasi and then she teleports away and silvana just kills shemira
Vedan bat damage sometimes is so little sometimes feels so ridiculous. I don't understand.
@warm ocean the try switching tasi up to lyca's spot
Hopefully she'll jump on Brutus after
@obtuse void our vedan cant compare to NPC vedan, dont waste your time trying
Hello, i really need help for this one ! Thank you
@placid willow well, level up! lol
Which one should i level up first ?
@placid willow try get your current line up to 180, it's a good line up already
Fakkin bats 
@obtuse void i feel you bro haha i hate them too
I killed 4 of them
Vedan just murdered the remaining 3 members of my team as bats... He was near death before transform..

Level différence, same ?
@brisk tapir you dont have enough cc to hold her down... and probably not enough damage to kill her offf fast enough with only a 200 shemira
@placid willow chap 18? You will get pass. Your power is higher than mine. This stage should not need need any special tricks and i am sure you can power thru.
Consider drop lyca since they don't have one and see if it works better.
If Shem can ulti before Tasi ulti (rest of teammates can die).. 90% chance can win provided Shem heal herself back.
You can consider just levelling Brutus only. My Wilders all are lower than M at 160.
@warm ocean keep trying bud, just rmb my power if lower than yours.. so you will get pass! :)
17-24 I think Shemira bottom is better?
Sometimes I do use Tasi bait and hide behind Shemira fyi. Just try and error.
And I might drop lyca if nothing works especially enemies don't have lyca.
My tasi is still E+.. so I reach a stage which I use nemora as Silv bait instead cos Silv ohko my Tasi. But that's in chap 18
@brisk tapir It's doable with a 200 Shem but it'll take some good RNG. Blade on Shem, call on Tasi. I can't see him in your box but E+ Arden worked fine for me
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Any hereos recommended from the PvP shop, lab shop, or the event shop?
The ones you want to ascend
19-24, any tips?
Try arden instead of nemora
This level is steam rolling me send help
Benjii, this command is disabled in this channel
Need help, cant deal with Vedan :(
Which hero is best to ascend to Mystic?
I don't know much about the guys to the right and left of Isabella
Stuck on the notorious 9-20...
Farel or Kelthur
Stuck on 6-36 for a few days, not sure how to proceed. I can't post both screenshots together for some reason
Brutus, saveas, Lucius, and 2 others should carry you to chapter 14-15
Need help 11-40 anything I can do here? I have LB fodder if I should do any of that maybe?
@cloud ermine you definitely need someone infront of saveas ... Best would be lyca for the buff other than that I would recommend to use tasi, she carries my team since I got her
Hard stuck 😆 any tips? I can make estrilda or fawkes legendary
yay or nay? stuck at the end of chap 6
@placid flower I beat this stage with the same team I think just Brutus instead of Lucius. Try using mehira instead of nemora, even if she is only elite she can sustain pretty good
3 variations of your team are my go to switch around
- Like you did
- Switch lyca and Lucius
- Switch saveas and tasi
Try all 3 out and look what works for you. You will need some luck. And remember mehira for nemora.
What the hell... is this even beatable? O.o
@last latch not in a million years! Saveas is your carry until lvl 161
sigh sad life
@sly sparrow yup ^^ try saveas instead of Aquaman ( forgot the name xD ) and put saveas on top
Maybe like this
Saveas
Kaz / Aquaman / Lucius
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Lol aquaman.. i love it :D he is seirus btw
@sly sparrow just started myself and climbed to 12-16 😅 and so far I just know the names of the once I own myself xD
Haha its ok... the matchup didnt work but im not surprised im 4-5 levels from them
@placid flower btw switch around with mehira and athalia on your backline
Suggestions?
@sly sparrow it's not a " use and win game " it's more of a try some things and hope for luck so just use this match up a while and you figure out what works for you and what you need to change
I sometimes got round where I don't get even one ult off and the next try I clear the stage with 3 heroes alive on my side
Ye its RNG much
@crude stream overlevel saveas and maybe try tasi and Arden instead of Belinda and numisu
@zanyu put Mehira in reso crystal... she is really strong
@crude stream also try putting mehira in the Crystal, she is really good
Ok
@iron dome well shemira should be able to tank infront with her heal
Then maybe try nemora instead of Arden
@iron dome could also try nemora instead of lyca .. either you are stuck rn or just need rngesus
There is honestly not really more you can do other than lvl eq and heroes and switch units around ( just the Wilder backline )
Stuck at 8-16, any suggestions?
@storm frigate lol I got it on the 2nd try with just switching nemora for mehira. Ty 😆
@placid flower told ya she is good 😂😂
@onyx hinge since I can't see your other characters I would suggest lyca tasi Arden nemora anytime. Maybe try lyca instead of Henrik and make saveas your carry
@storm frigate oh and totally overlooked use Brutus! As your tank !!!
should i concetrate on saveas even if belinda is L and i only got him at e+ atm?
Now it's 11-36 and things are not looking good 😂
@placid flower the game isn't getting easier xD just farm for some days maybe if you are really stuck
@onyx hinge in the long run it is better to focus on saveas, yes and at the same time try to get your shemira to mythik
Ill try out a bit now and see if i can beat it
@onyx hinge if you can't just wait until you can level your units or get better eq
Any advice for 18-14?
@zinc wren Arden, nemora, lyca, tasi backline Brutus shemira infront
What backline works best for you, is what you need to figure out
Is Saveas still a good carry 121+ or does he fall off?
What's a generic lineup for challengers tournament?
Any suggestion appreciated 9-20.
I am trying to burst Vedan but shemira doesnt see 2nd ult
I'm stuck at 6-36. I have about 170k hero exp banked right now and 1k purple dust.
I have 6 slots on the pentagram to level up characters but I reset it yesterday.
Who should I level and who should I put on the pentagram?
Having some trouble going any further in the challenger’s tournament. Any recommendations for a solid 3 teams? I can move people in or out of resonator if needed.
can someone help me here with this one i tryed so many times but i cant beat it or should i just wait to get more exp https://gyazo.com/c47837cad846f79344927d0e4b2a9348
@buoyant river reset Athalia, get Silvina up to 81. Elite+'s can go higher which means all of your elites can go past their level cap too
@limber rock try replacing Ira with Saveas and moving him to the middle? Otherwise I think you'll just need to wait to level up. I would recommend getting Saveas as high as you can, he'll carry you far
@buoyant river Try Hogan and Shemira Frontline, Raine/Belinda/Arden backline. Raine + Belinda is a really strong combo
@oblique phoenix so i should skip my faction bonus? for saveas
Thanks
@limber rock I don't think it's going to help that much this early on, Lyca works well with more offensive Wilder teams and Tasi has plenty of survivability as is. I think Saveas would benefit you more with Lucius and Hogan to tank
Stuck at 7-24 for 3 days. Might need a change on lineup? Tried all teams I could think
Wait for L+ fodder that aren't ascended tier @pale kettle
I'm legit one Lucius away from making my L Lucius to a M+ Lucius
Can't decide which healer to use, rowan or numisu, i tried him on this stage and he got almost 1 shot and his heals are so slow and w a little AOE tbh, but rowan has only 3 heals and on a range
But rowan heals are instant and high
And immunity
Numisu
Tbh if u can run both
Can't lol, the only hero i would remove is the big guy in front line, but i will have less protection
I’m stuck on 11-32 help?
@pale kettle I would go Rowan then because her ult can change the pace of many battles
@robust kraken get some front liners some tanks then stick saveas Isabella and belinda in the back
Tbh i don't know how to use his ultimate, or where to place him
Stuck at 9-28 help?
