lineup-help

[steel moat]

🤔 mine was 161+ and full mythic gear so that might explain

Does your shemira work well?

[steep cape]

Could be for sure. Yeah she does

[steel moat]

Also how crucial is athalia to your setup?

[fickle meteor]

setup does much better but when angelo makes it so sav cant attack it just falls apart @steep cape

[steep cape]

@fickle meteor then put your athalia to nuke Angelo @steel moat well she stops Isabella who f me up instantly if left uncontested

Can move Brutus up and sav mid if you need to as well @fickle meteor

[steel moat]

I see 🤔 I don’t really understand why your setup isn’t working because it looks good T___T

[zinc wren]

Anyone have advice for Soren? I can get to 12 chests easy but 13 has been a struggle. I feel like I should be able to get there.

[fickle meteor]

@steep cape beat it with that team just switch formations and made even levels

[mental forum]

Anyone? Somehow stuck at 16-19 and not 16-20

[sudden sparrow]

@sullen vine Put Mirael on Backline center, reset Brutus & Raine and put them in the Resonating Crystal, then Place Brutus in front of Ogi and try replacing It's with Raine to get Damage boost

[pale kettle]

Help for chpt 13? :’)

[silent wraith]

@mental forum shud always place arden behind shemira so she can kill her enemy faster

[steep cape]

@fickle meteor congrats! 😃

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle reset your shem and Belinda. Level them up to 100 (or 101) and put the rest into saveas. Then use
Saveas, lucius, Hendrik, Belinda, athalia

Also use those 2700 diamonds you have

[faint quest]

Any help?

That baden can

[fierce kayak]

@mental forum this stage should be able to get thru. Either try

Shemira and Brutus swap or Nemora replace lyca.

[steel moat]

Maybe switch fawkes and belinda so fawkes can slow baden’s attacks? @faint quest

[dreamy adder]

Whose a better frontline thane or seirus lvl 90

[fierce kayak]

@dreamy adder none of them I think.

[dreamy adder]

Iam on 8-8 right now this is what I have

[delicate glade]

💪 beat 9-20!!! Took couple days. Ran Brutus/Hendrik up front, saveas/nemora/athalia in back. Key for me was to kill Niru, then Isa, then nemora before she could heal a second time. Let Vedan fly around & drop him once reappeared, then 1:1 sav vs. Ira

[frigid dagger]

Any suggestion?

[south herald]

@frigid dagger u might be a bit underleveled but I would say try putting lyca front instead of shem and put shem behind brutus

[frigid dagger]

@south herald pretty hard one, when tasi can ult my shem can't and when shem can tasi can't, Seems like I need some time afk, ty anyways

[south herald]

@frigid dagger ye patience is kinda key tbh xd

[shell isle]

Hi would love some help with a pve lineup

[south herald]

@shell isle for now use
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Lucius
You dont have that many heroes rn so go with this until u find something

[shell isle]

Awesome, Thanks

[south herald]

@shell isle u should be abusing saveas until around 16-4 then hes useless in pve at that point

[shell isle]

Yeah I've been making sure he's the top level and pumping him up when I've got the dust to get him over milestones

[unborn niche]

Hey guys I'm running a all Maulers setup but I wanted to know Elite Numisu for Leg Belinda il still have a good aura?

[shell isle]

Are there any key heroes I should work towards getting right now from stores/events?

[unborn niche]

Elite Numisu vs leg belinda

[dull swan]

can anyone tell me the best team i can make for general stuff with these heroes? (pretend nemora is level 63)

[tropic thistle]

hey i was looking for an opinion on a team comp that would feature shem+fereal.
I am soon to get fereal to 181 and was wondering what team comp would best be used around them

[south herald]

@tropic thistle i heard ferael truly shines after hes 201 i think

[tropic thistle]

not useable at 181? ive been told he gets better and better the higher he gets and it makes sense based on the skill upgrades

[south herald]

@dull swan ur shem is not that strong yet so try this
Mirael
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus
Saveas
Focus on saveas for now cuz hes the best early game carry

[tropic thistle]

but im also close to ascending him at around the same time so i figured he would be solid after he gets the ability to cc with his spirits

[south herald]

@tropic thistle hes usable but people use him when shem starts to fall off after 200

[dull swan]

@south herald in which positions?

[tropic thistle]

my shem is 220, so should i try and pivot to another carry?

[south herald]

Same format as the battle field @dull swan the one with space in front is ur frontline

[pale ether]

Could use some advice on who to put into wish list starting out. Like only at 61 lvl. Some that I have and put in there don't seem to do well. That free horse rider from first buy seems like pure trash

[south herald]

@tropic thistle not yet I think if u wanna use both shem and ferael u might wAnt a wilder tank

[dull swan]

@south herald wouldn’t it be better to put mirael in in the middle?

[south herald]

Its up to u @dull swan belinda kinda wants to be in the middle too

@pale ether
Lb: Lucius, Thane, maybe fawkes
Mauler: Brutus, Khasos, The sphinx chick, and maybe saveas but eh
Gb: Shemira, Baden, ferael
Wilder: Tasi, Lyca, Nemora
The rest u can choose

[pale ether]

Thanks. What I have and put into my WL

[south herald]

I listed them there^ for each faction ;-; why u do this

[south herald]

@pale ether I listed them already my man

[pale ether]

Thank you I can put them in there. Change some out.

[south herald]

Add more too if its not full im just recommending the heroes i think is powerful @pale ether

[pale ether]

Yeah I love my Khasos

[brittle summit]

How exactly do you do the Brutus solo strategy for floor 60 on the Mauler tower? I'm asking for my friend.

[south herald]

@brittle summit I heard if its Brutus solo he needs to be lvl 200

[pale kettle]

Saveas or estrilda to lvl 121?

[vital leaf]

Saveas

[south herald]

@pale kettle Saveas is the best carry til 16-4

[late vessel]

saveas for sure

[pale kettle]

Thanks for answers

[vital leaf]

Should i?

[brittle summit]

@south herald he has Brutus at Lv200. Anything else he needs to do?

[south herald]

@vital leaf Skreg is kinda fodder but i dont think u should do that tho

[late vessel]

any advice on tournament lineup? I have basically every hero, but if one doesnt show in the screenshot then I can’t ascend them and probably have like 2-6 copies out of 8

[south herald]

@brittle summit just a standard team with a lvl 200 brutus should do the job I think.... atleast thats what i heard

@late vessel im not a tournament lvl player yet but i think that ur comp is pretty solid but mehira is not really needed imo

@late vessel put in khasos instead

[late vessel]

you think im better off replacing? she stays alive long enough to get one ult off which is pretty solid. But yeah maybe khasos would be better

[south herald]

Tbh idk but its up2u

[pale ether]

When starting out is is better to spread out your levels (but still get your team to 61 for the 4 skills) or pick one max then the next as you lvl?

[late vessel]

max one first to the next tier

[south herald]

^

[pale ether]

Thanks. Only been playing half a day, so appreciate the help.

[tropic rampart]

any suggestions? 😦

[brittle summit]

Stuck on 16-20. Any suggestions for who I should use?

[south herald]

@tropic rampart first of all get ur shem to 180 and if thats further than 16-4 reset ur saveas and put him in crystal cuz he wont be use in campaign

@brittle summit try kaz lucius front with Lyca arden tasi backline

[brittle summit]

@south herald I'll give it a try.

[south herald]

@brittle summit I feel like a comp with Baden will be good but i dont have much knowledge on a team with him :/

@brittle summit make sure Tasi has the lowest defense so silvina blinks to her btw

[stone geode]

12-1 ;-; underleveled?

[sudden sparrow]

Yup, but should switch Lyca position with Hendrick and Nemora with Saveas @stone geode

[stone geode]

think i tried that, but the moment vedan does his bats he just kills everybody >_< so i was trying to kill him asap

[sudden sparrow]

Then leven your top 5 heroes up

[stone geode]

yeah :/ was assuming that. i’ll try to get them all to 140-141

[sudden sparrow]

That 20+ lvl Gap is huge

[stone geode]

just wanted to get past 12-2 to start getting mythic gear 😛

[vale kraken]

@stone geode hows double doors boii?

[stone geode]

not bad tbh comes in clutch quite often lol 😂

[tropic rampart]

@south herald its 13-20 lol so keep saveas for now?

[stone geode]

tho i’d prefer to get more lucius pulls :c

[odd python]

might have to replace saveas and silvina soon, any ideas who’s good to go for?

[daring matrix]

Which stage are you?

[odd python]

13-16

[daring matrix]

Generally get Shem to mythic and also Saveas is still useful till around chap 15 I think

[south herald]

@tropic rampart yey

[odd python]

yeah im waiting on fodder to get shem to mythic, just thinking a bit further ahead is all.

[brittle summit]

@south herald tried it out. Who is my main DPS in that setup suppose to be since I'm struggling to deal enough damage to take the enemies out.

[south herald]

@brittle summit ok I found a possible new good dps team for u try this
Belinda
Lucius
Estrilda
Baden
Fawkes

[odd python]

i was thinking to start grabbing numisu from the challenger store to replace saveas later on and not sure what to do with silvina

[daring matrix]

Feed sil to shem

[pseudo bear]

Could someone help me with the challenger tournament line up? Other two heroes that is not show in pics are Eironn L+ and Vurk L+.

[south herald]

@brittle summit just sayin if u had shem at 180 this would be so much easier xd

[odd python]

yeah thats the plan but i dont have a good replacement for silvina yet

[fierce kayak]

@odd python 161 Mythic Shem to carry for you from now.

Do ascend with planning and priority.

Your lightb seems to be problems with so many L.

[odd python]

should i just put baden in or smth in the meantime

[daring matrix]

Numisu is also not that good for me

[south herald]

@pseudo bear thats a solid comp imo

[pseudo bear]

@south herald thanks! 😃

[odd python]

tbh im just not sure if its worth keeping the 3+2 bonus in my main team

[brittle summit]

I could make Shemira go to Mythic, but I would have to sacrifice my L+ Isabella or make my Thoran go to L+ and use him instead.

[quasi radish]

12-40 help?

[daring matrix]

@brittle summit noooo don't fodder Isabella or any other ascended tier hero

[supple cosmos]

6-20 impossible for me or just formation/squad ?

[sudden sparrow]

Level them up a little bit and put Hogan on position 1

[pale kettle]

Belinda or estrilda? I need 1 more shemria to upgrade her too.. currently chapter 12

[sudden sparrow]

Neither of them, wait to have more Fodder and ascend Belinda, but if you don't have any other tank, try and ascend Estrilda although I don't recommend Estrilda as a tank

Oh, you got Lucius and Brutus, then when u got the fodder, ascend Belinda and leave Estrilda there on L+

[pale kettle]

Oh okay thanks

[shy coyote]

Need help

[clear saddle]

@shy coyote you need your saveas to be higher level but i put saveas in pos 1 with warek behind him. you need your saveas to crit the eironn out before he can use his abilities or else you lose

[shy coyote]

Oh nice it worked thx

[obsidian nexus]

What chapter would yall say arden stops being useful? For campaign purposes anyway. Cuz im stuck on 20-8 and i need to start ascending heroes on my crystal 😅

[sudden sparrow]

Some people still find him useful even on 22, but if you really need to ascend some other heroe, go ahead

E+ Arden does the trick

[fierce kayak]

@obsidian nexus your arden still L+?

[obsidian nexus]

Yes my arden is L+

[fierce kayak]

@obsidian nexus think can change to E+ if you want.

Usually retires L+ Arden when

1. he get ohko
2. around chap 20 to 22 like Rass said

[obsidian nexus]

But yeah i just have a TON of L+ heros and iv only got three heroes at mythic+/ascended so im basically stuck at a hard level cap

But bet im just gonna ascend nemora then

[grave furnace]

Curent linne up :) i need help

[sudden sparrow]

Oof

Sell all the common heroes on the rickety cart

[grave furnace]

are those the green ones?

and by selling youmean retiring? im new 😃

[fierce kayak]

@grave furnace too early for us to advise. Pull more first then we can discuss.

Yup, retire cart.

[fading cipher]

Help with 18-40 please

[sudden sparrow]

@grave furnace yup, sell them and save the coins for Elite shrads on the store

[grave furnace]

oki:)

what store? and elite shards?

[sudden sparrow]

Also, with the heroes you've got so far your formation should be
Grezhul/Hogan
Hogan/Grezhul
Saveas (either position 3 or 5 depending on the situation)
Mirael
Nemora

[grave furnace]

ty ^

[grave furnace]

got yougot you

[misty flare]

Is Logan worth building as a tank?

I can get him to elite+ right now

[sudden sparrow]

Just ascend him to E+, then use him as fodder for Lucius or Hendrick

[pale kettle]

Help

[frank scarab]

Someone help me make a new lineup, my usual lineup of brutus estrilda fawkes belinda saveas is not working anymore

[fierce kayak]

@pale kettle You need levels in your carry. Either Sav to L+ or Shem. Not sure how good Shem before 161 even she is Ascended.

Focus overlevel carry

[frank scarab]

Wait how is shemira only 105
But very, very ascended

Should i start using shemira instead now over saveas and transfer fawkes's levels? Tbh im not even sure what id use with shem since i dont have very many good support options for her (and i def do not have a complete wilder trio, let alone a half decent trio)

[fading cipher]

Once Shem can get to 161, use her

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle Level up boi

[frank scarab]

I can get shem to 161 if i reset fawkes and trade their exp levels w each other

Whats a good lineup with shemira with what i have though?

[south herald]

Get Shem to 180 @frank scarab a shem lineup is basically shem brutus/Lucius with wilder trio

[frank scarab]

I lack lyca though
All i have as half decent wilders are legend+ nemora, legend 141 arden, elite tasi and leg+ eironn @south herald

[south herald]

@frank scarab nem arden tasi is fine

[frank scarab]

kk
ty

[frigid spruce]

Could use some help, stuck on 9-40 and ready to get out of this Chapter! lol

[silent wraith]

o u use very similar to what I used lol

[frigid spruce]

holy moly, some how just beat it

[silent wraith]

tasi shud be mvp for that stage

[frigid spruce]

Belinda was clutch AF

[onyx basin]

Help me make a team for both floors 50 im stuck
https://imgur.com/a/udOfKak

[south herald]

@onyx basin grezhul shem front with ferael nara and baden

[onyx basin]

@south herald shemira cant last long enough to finish with ult

[south herald]

rng it out buddy thats how i beat it xd

[onyx basin]

OH she did it !!! damn thank you

Can you help me with wilders now xdd look ss

[hasty night]

Any help?

[onyx basin]

@hasty night have you tried shemira instead of saveas if you can max her instead of others it will be good i think thats the ultimate team

[hasty night]

Shes not m. Shem is worse b4 lv 161

[sudden sparrow]

Put Tasi in the Frontline, Saveas behind Brutus and Switch Luca for Shemira @hasty night

[brittle summit]

Who should I use for 16-24?

Also, is it worth it for me to still be using Saveas at where I am in campaign?

[south herald]

@brittle summit Saveas is kinda irrelevant on this stage try someone like baden xd

[hasty night]

@sudden sparrow not even close, I get stomped and none of theirs dies

[south herald]

Saveas becomes irrelevant after 16-4

[sudden sparrow]

Then forget what I said, and restore your formation, I'm sorry but don't see a good way to beat that stage as you are

[brittle summit]

So I can go ahead and give his gear to someone else?

[hasty night]

Oof

[south herald]

@brittle summit ye imo unless u use him in pvp and stuff

[clear saddle]

I mean, unless you use him, the gear's kinda useless

[south herald]

@hasty night ir a bit underleveled maybe thats y

[fading cipher]

Am I too weak to beat 18-40?

[onyx basin]

ah sh*t, here we go again

[south herald]

@fading cipher I think you are but try switching place of arden and lyca so arden get his second root maybe

@onyx basin Make sure ur Tasi gets target by silvina so she should have the lowest defense and should be behind ur ulmus or someone very tanky

[fading cipher]

@south herald He can’t even get his first root, enemy team is faster...

[onyx basin]

@south herald whatever I do tasi is never targeted, or targeted and one shot

[clear saddle]

@fading cipher are u using eye of dura?

[fading cipher]

Dura’s eye is on Brutus

[clear saddle]

If you put eye on arden, he will win the root battle

[south herald]

@fading cipher no? My arden is always faster than the enemy and i use dura drape on him u just have to make sure arden roots the enemy arden or else hes worthless

@onyx basin Just switch up the gear so she still has defense but make sure its the lowest of all mages

[clear saddle]

Although, if your arden gets staggered by the lyca, he won't root in time

[onyx basin]

@south herald exactly what I did, but like I said she still isnt targeted, and if she gets targeted she is being one shot dead

[fading cipher]

Ogi staggers entire team before I can do anything

[south herald]

@onyx basin Was the one shot a crit?

[pale rover]

@fading cipher I would say underlevelled. Frontline 200 and back 180 if possible. If not possible, you'll have to at the very least overlevel your frontline.

[onyx basin]

@south herald i dont think so

[clear saddle]

@fading cipher does your arden die if he is in the bottom corner? like, instantly?

[south herald]

@onyx basin No worries @pale rover is here to save ur day

[onyx basin]

ill be glad cuz i waste a day in it, and lost one level of towers (still go my 40 price tho)

[south herald]

You know being stuck is normal right.......

[onyx basin]

yeah ofc

[clear saddle]

but being stuck on a non-boss stage? thats a feelsbad xd

[fading cipher]

Ogi insta kills

[clear saddle]

dang, looks like its back to the waiting game lol

[pale rover]

@onyx basin Sorry I don't think that's doable just yet if I'm being honest. The level gap is too big, factoring in ascensions as well. Get Kaz/Ulmus up to properly frontline

[onyx basin]

ah i see, ive been focusing or lyca/tasi/nemora that i forgot about others xd

[fleet knoll]

should i level up my purple Hogan?

[pale rover]

@fleet knoll Sure you can. For now, you can use:

Seirus/Ogi and Hogan front
Raine Mirael and Arden at the back

Will give you a nice 3-2 team bonus.

[hidden mirage]

Any help how to clear this?

[fleet knoll]

isn't 4 same 1 different is better than 3 same 2 differe?

[pale rover]

@fleet knoll A better team synergy is always more important than a bigger team bonus.

[clear saddle]

It is, but i wouldnt build your team around an aura, its just a bonus

[fleet knoll]

i mean the team bonus
FOR now, im using Seruis,Hogan front & Raine,Mireal,Morvus

[pale rover]

@fleet knoll Arden is better than Morvus especially once 141 hits. For now you can use Morvus if you like.

[clear saddle]

Yeah but arden is super good so

[fading cipher]

Morvus

[fleet knoll]

sometime i think Morvus is better too, thx much

[clear saddle]

Sleeping on arden? it ok tho. soon he will find the way 😉

[hidden mirage]

Anyone? ^

[clear saddle]

Take out your hogan and replace it with tasi?

[pale rover]

@hidden mirage

Saveas
Brutus
Tasi/Athalia
Kaz
Arden

You can try this, I guess. Move them around and see if it'll work.

[hidden mirage]

Ok will try

[cosmic kestrel]

Which Elites are worth keeping ?

Currently on ch7-32

Told savs and poison woman next to him are good, but idk

[south herald]

all of them r good :/ imo except maybe skreg and

@cosmic kestrel Saveas should be ur main carry early game skreg just sux the rest r ok

[cosmic kestrel]

Is Gorvo worth investing in? along with Niru?

[south herald]

Niru is not that good gorvo idk i never oulled him xd

[clear saddle]

Theres only like 2 legendary tier heroes you should focus, saveas and arden, the rest are fodder pretty much

[hidden mirage]

@pale rover nice cleared it thanks alot

[south herald]

mirael vedan r pretty good too but ye basically arden and saveas r the best L tier heroes

[pale rover]

@cosmic kestrel Niru is for fodder, Gorvo is a good unit.

[fleet knoll]

oh haha

[clear saddle]

bruh

[cosmic kestrel]

Arden and Saveas?? hmmm

[fleet knoll]

what now @pale rover

[clear saddle]

Not sure how good she is early game, but i think she's pretty good

[pale rover]

@fleet knoll What do you mean what now? If you're able to progress with your previous team, get as far as you can with it first

[fleet knoll]

okay!

[pale rover]

Mehira is very good but you'll need a couple more to really utilize her.

[reef flower]

Any tips? I have a friend's 3 star Brutus out (as seen) though its level and equips are not what I expected. Lucius gets eaten up by Brutus/Ferael (Shem gets coffined) and even when placed with Grez he still dies before pulling off ult. My Brutus gets immunity almost immediately (and dies around a second before Lucius), leaving the backline to get destroyed.

[clear saddle]

Do you have the wilder trio? (or arden)? if so, swap out your lucius and backline and put them in, try charm the ferael

[pale rover]

@reef flower

Shemira
Brutus
Nemora (you'll need to charm)
Kaz
Lyca

[clear saddle]

Also, lucius really falls off later so you'd be better investing in your brutus and capping out your shemira. or so i heard about lucius

[reef flower]

Unfortunately in both scenarios Nemora charmed Brutus, though I did get him to immune both times as well. I'm trying to get an ascended Nemora and L+ Tasi from my friends in hopes the better stats/gear will help. Thank you both!

[clear saddle]

To be completely honest, Ascended shemira lvl 200 should blow this level out of the water

[pale rover]

@reef flower You'll have to try more than twice to get her to charm Ferael. Sometimes it literally takes 20-50 tries. Tasi can also help in place of Lyca.

[south herald]

So i just keep spamming 18-32 until i beat it right?

[clear saddle]

how about 18-14

[south herald]

i rnged that one too i think

[clear saddle]

What ascension was your shemira? lol

[south herald]

M+ lvl 200 with 180 brutus

[pale rover]

@clear saddle @south herald I'll have to see the photos but you can actually search this channel and see what people used to beat those comps

[clear saddle]

Damn, im M+ 190 with 164 brutus lol. reso crystal 160 as well

[cosmic kestrel]

Out of 2700 diamond roll, I received a Warek, do I toss Saveas out of the way for him?

[fervent raven]

I’ve been having trouble in this level for about 2 weeks. Trying to figure out what I should be working on.

[clear saddle]

@cosmic kestrel Warek is only good at like level 181

[pale rover]

@cosmic kestrel No. Warek is for late game. Use Saveas to 160.

[south herald]

My comp is perfect i just need rng

[clear saddle]

thats what i thought

[south herald]

its prolly far from perfect I'll just keep learning

[clear saddle]

Yup

[pale rover]

@fervent raven

Since you lack tanks..

Saveas/Athalia
Athalia/Saveas
Shemira
Grezhul
Ferael (team bonus)/Tasi

I guess you could try this.

[south herald]

Actually

[pale rover]

@south herald Yeah that's definitely due to being underlevelled. I also charm that ugly ass Angelo

Hate that stage

[south herald]

Lol

[fervent raven]

i just play the cards im dealt

[fading cipher]

I’m on 18-40 with these guys. Teemo just needs good rng

[reef flower]

oh my lord it worked @pale rover

[fervent raven]

who are some good tanks?

[pale rover]

@reef flower Congratulations!!

@fervent raven You can ask general things in #classic-questions

[fervent raven]

ok mb

[ocean hill]

What should I try here...

[pale rover]

@ocean hill

Shemira Brutus front
Nemora Lyca Tasi back

Ascensions might be a problem here, though. Charm either the enemy Arden to root the other team, Kaz to kill her teammate, or you could charm the enemy Nemora to charm another teammate of hers. Depends on the rng. Move them around.

[fierce kayak]

@ocean hill What stage is this? Likely need to use meta team cos lyca arden will get you rooted.

Try:
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira
Arden

Else meta team, Wilders Back Brutus Shemira front.

[pale rover]

@fierce kayak I was going to suggest that, if not for Lyca's ascension.🤭 Ogi: Lyca food

[fierce kayak]

@pale rover cos I rmb before chap 18.. I usually use lyca offtank vs Wilders.

But chap 18 it's impossible. I have to use back Shemira Brutus tank and seems to be working. Weird Shemira Brutus tank doesn't work before chap 18.. maybe I upgraded my gears during chap 18.. can't recall.

My lyca E+ only*

[meager sonnet]

Lineup suggestions?

[sudden sparrow]

Get everyone to lvl 81 @meager sonnet

[meager sonnet]

just pm me its faster if u want

[sudden sparrow]

I mean, get Brutus, Belinda, Hogan, Tasi and Athalia to 81

[meager sonnet]

ok

thx

[cinder crag]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

Ultra stuck on 8-40

[rough ruin]

Guys, Baden or Nara? I have both Legendary+ and am going to feed one to the other

[cinder crag]

Don't use ascended tier heroes for food

Both are very good baden can be used very effectively in Labyrinth or guild bosses And nara is anti Brutus but both of them are very good

[atomic dirge]

@rough ruin dont feed either

@cinder crag do you have lyca? if not i think the only other thing u can try is swapping brutus and shim

[cinder crag]

I have lyca

[atomic dirge]

@cinder crag u can try lyca instead of tasi, or instead of brutus

[cinder crag]

But lyca would get one shotted and that line would collapse quickly

[pale kettle]

Anyone got any ideas on my stuccness

[atomic dirge]

@cinder crag if lyca can dodge first hit (she has high dodge), arden should be able to root and then nemora can charm ferael so he fears his own team

[cinder crag]

She is only elite though

She would get one shotted probably but worth a try

[atomic dirge]

@pale kettle tasi instead of belinda or athalia

@cinder crag she is mostly used for her haste and energy buff early on, but if she dodges its a nice benefit

[cinder crag]

Well I can kill Farael and grez but Brutus kills shemira

Guess need more levels

[atomic dirge]

@cinder crag try swapping tasi out for brutus, and use brutus in front of shim

[steep wolf]

Any suggestions on where to go now with this setup?

[cinder crag]

Passed it a random charm saved me

[atomic dirge]

@cinder crag the power of nemora

[cinder crag]

:D

[south herald]

My backline get slaps out of existence

[atomic dirge]

@south herald what stage is that? also try this lineup in this order, lyca, brutus, arden, nemora (if u have her), shimera

[south herald]

18-40

[atomic dirge]

lmk if arden can get his root off with lyca in front of ogi, it might not work because they have lyca

[misty flare]

Who would be good support for my shemira?

[atomic dirge]

@south herald the other comp u can try is lyca, brutus, arden, shimera, tasi, in that order

[fierce kayak]

@south herald Gratz bud.. G luck!

[south herald]

ok

[atomic dirge]

might take many tries but one of those will def work with good rng

[south herald]

Beat it

[atomic dirge]

gratz

[pale kettle]

No luck with Tasi either

Subbed in Arden for Athalia I GOT IT been stuck for 3 days!

[sudden sparrow]

Where u stuck at? (Show stage and heroes box)

If you have gone that close, then try it a million times and wait for rng to be on your side

[cinder crag]

Any ideas? Thoran just won't die

[frozen bone]

help i'm block at the last boss, can i beat him?

[sudden sparrow]

I'm sorry to say this, but no @frozen bone

[frozen bone]

argh

[sudden sparrow]

Unless you just throw every heroe and use some Duras tears (then MAYBE [most likely not but who knows]) but idk if it is really worth it

[frozen bone]

it'z not worth they heal 6k hp per sec and the athalia destroy my lucius

[sudden sparrow]

@cinder crag try using Arden so he doesn't use his Ulti that often

[cinder crag]

Even if I use him he spams ult

Due to energy Regen when taking damage dealer

Like who thought it is a good idea to remove Artifacts from caps in Viper marshes ????

[sudden sparrow]

@frozen bone Then leave it there, idrk why does the game put you against those heroes tbh, it's too much of a difference

You'll just have to level your heroes up man

[cinder crag]

It's not the game its the peaks of time viper marshes and funny thing is that Only boss camps and small camps give you artifacts and they don't even give you legendary ones only elite and normal ones utterly ridiculous

[sudden sparrow]

That's the only thing that comes to mind rn

Then it's meant for ppl with lvl 181+ (maybe even 220) heroes(?

[cinder crag]

Shem could pass it but its just ridiculous that you can't get artifacts from camps

[indigo jolt]

@cinder crag The way to do the thoran grezhul boss is to do it with 2 teams. First teams, kill grezhul, and make thoran low hp. Second team goes in finish off thoran and kills him after revive. Strategy unless overlevelled.

[frozen bone]

@sudden sparrow they put me against those heroes because i'm level 44 at 8-12 floor, i guess...

[sudden sparrow]

U got there with 96lvl heroes?

[cinder crag]

Ugh more cheese fine then honestly this wouldn't be necessary if they actually made viper marshes not so broken

[frozen bone]

yep

[sudden sparrow]

Just level everyone up until 120 or 140, keep doing Lab every time it's open until you get stuck again tho

[frozen bone]

what is lab?

[cinder crag]

Labyrinth

[frozen bone]

oh ok

this is my band xD

[vestal dagger]

May I get some help please

Can we get a bn on this guy for inappropriate name and pfp and chat abuse.

[dark egret]

Any ideas?xD

[fierce kayak]

@frozen bone try to build a Savaes to L+ as your carry. And overlevel carry 20 to 40 levels ahead.

You can use estilda at middle back, and I will keep only belinda/mireal cos both are quite similar. Belinda does offer buffs even if she is still e+. So up to u

[loud osprey]

Any suggestions? The niru legit wont die 😂😭

[fierce kayak]

@loud osprey it's a tough match. But I got thru with a M shem only. M gears does help.

Keep trying using meta team.

Tasi bait Silv. Tasi cam be behind Shem or Brutus if Shem is strong enough. Else behind Brutus.

[loud osprey]

Ok tf for some odd reason i just passed it with the team ive used since yday trying to beat it😂

[fierce kayak]

@loud osprey it's a very tough one. I rmb I tried for days. Gratz! Now for 16-40. G luck

[atomic thicket]

14-20, any suggestions?

[south herald]

@atomic thicket first of all ur shem should be 180 make it Shem brutus tank with tasi nem lyca backline

Brutus should tank Saveas and nem should be behind him for rng charm on saveas

[delicate terrace]

Edit: Just beat 9-20 with this after repeating the battle for 20 times or so. Lol

[atomic thicket]

@south herald so my lineup should be shemira brutus tasi nemora lyca? With shem 180. Lyca is only gold, she really that strong?

[south herald]

@atomic thicket im in chapter 19 and my team contains 3 gold 2 red

[atomic thicket]

@south herald o wow, i'll give it a shot.. thx!

[sudden sparrow]

Lyca Backline center @atomic thicket

[tame vigil]

So im getting both 10 normal scrolls and 10 faction scrolls tonight, should I use the faction scrolls on lb/ mauler or wait until wilders are up again?

[south herald]

@vestal gate use that front line make the backline Tasi lyca and arden in that order

[tame vigil]

Also, is this only for help on specific stages or also for general team building advice?

[vestal gate]

@south herald I've tried a couple times with that set up had no luck but ty

[south herald]

@tame vigil ur characters r pretty spread out atm imo anything would work

[tame vigil]

Alrighty, I’ll see how my normal pulls go and then I’ll decide on what to focus on, thanks mate!

[timid stratus]

Any team comp reccomendations

[south herald]

@vestal gate ye urs are pretty low ascended... u should focus on getting strong wilders thats how i got to chap 19

[sudden sparrow]

@timid stratus I see you hit a lvl wall

[timid stratus]

[vestal gate]

@south herald bad rng haha i need an estrilda to make my team comp.mythic so I can level rest of hero3son res crystal

@timid stratus lucius vedan shemira Belinda fawkes

[timid stratus]

[forest glacier]

Do I just need more lvls to beat this or do I have a better comp for this stage?

[vestal gate]

@forest glacier try Arden and nemora insteadof Belinda estrilda and try n CC the fuck out of then

[broken egret]

Anyone know what I should do to beat this one?

[timid stratus]

Sometimes levels on hero's don't make a magor difference but in this case you might want to either level up your gear more or level up your hero's to buff their abilities @forest glacier

Sorry for bad grammar (-_-)/

[broken egret]

My units are these

[dim zodiac]

Hey everyone, These are my heroes. I currently use my top five as my lineup.
I could ascend my Lyca using my Legendary+ Ira and the four Elite+ Lycas however I think It’s not yet worth it since I still rely on Ira in my line-up, since she does quite a lot of damage.
Should I wait until I have a proper replacement for her or would my Elite+ Ulmus do the trick? And if not, who should I wait/save for? I’d like it to be Wilder for the Faction bonus.

Please help, Thanks 😃

[sudden sparrow]

He got no Tasi :c

[dull wadi]

Hi I need help.

[timid stratus]

Tasi can be clutch @sudden sparrow

[pale rover]

@dim zodiac Make an L+ Arden, Ascend your Lyca with the Ira.

[sudden sparrow]

Could've been perfect to ascend Lyca to Ascended and use Meta team but instead, try and switch Ira for Arden

@dim zodiac forgot to tag

[broken egret]

@sudden sparrow you have any idea what I can do for my stage?

Oh and ye luci is L right now

[sudden sparrow]

Wait to have fodder for Brutus

Also, that lvl20 Gap is a little too much of a gap so level up your heroes

[broken egret]

Ye already feared that, guess I'll just afk for more resources for now. What would you say would be a good lvl to go for from the 120 level heroes?

[dim zodiac]

@pale rover @sudden sparrow Isnt Arden capped at Legendary+? Will i not end up replacing him very soon?

[pale rover]

@dim zodiac I still use Arden sometimes in ch22. Just keep him in crystal and don't manually level.

[sudden sparrow]

^ I'm not that far in the game so there you have it, from someone on c.22

[dim zodiac]

Allright, would L+ Arden be better than L+ or L Ulmus?

[pale rover]

@dim zodiac If you have Ulmus at a high ascension I personally use him in place of Arden sometimes. That means a minimum of M+

[sudden sparrow]

Try to get everyone to lvl 141, since your enemies are lvl140, that 1 extra level makes a great difference 'cause as you know, it buffs 1 skill

[pale kettle]

@pale rover

[dim zodiac]

Do you mean 161? I know, but thats quite far away for Lyca and since Shemira was doing most of the damage I figured I'd level her up instead. But since I want to ascend her soon I probably should level her a bit too :)

Thank you very much for your help @pale rover and @sudden sparrow

[broken egret]

@sudden sparrow okay, but that's gonna take quite some time, still will need al that xp and also a shit ton of dust

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle can you show your hero list?

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Units? Are you mostly LB?

[sudden sparrow]

Forgot to tag again, that last message was for @broken egret. The game's made that way so you have to go AFK sometimes/most times

[clear saddle]

Bruh, I can make one of the wilders mythic

[sudden sparrow]

But it's really not that big of a deal @broken egret

[clear saddle]

But I get destroyed. Maybe this is impossible rn lol

[fierce kayak]

@clear saddle erm.. I am still using E+ lyca, E+ Tasi and L+ nemora pass that stage. And now still using the same.

Shemira more important imo. Blade full M gear, enhance, etc.

[broken egret]

@sudden sparrow ye I know going afk is part of the game, but getting to 141 feels like it might take near 2 weeks?

Also I would need to get my units L+ somehow or I can't even level past 140

[clear saddle]

@fierce kayak I’ve got Shem all M, hat and staff are gb so I maxed them, rest are 3 star

[pale kettle]

@pale rover yes

[fair sundial]

2 weeks
Welcome to mid-game.

[fierce kayak]

@clear saddle wow.. better than mine it seems. Need lots of trying and RNG then.

O.. but my ascended. I pm you my power level now for you to gauge.

[clear saddle]

@fierce kayak lol I got staff from tower of esperia xd

[river lily]

Tips for 16-40? 😃

[clear saddle]

@river lily Rng, and lots of it. Your setup looks ideal but Shem 181 would really help

[pale kettle]

@river lily https://youtu.be/g1vk3dJR37Q

[warm tree]

Tips for my setup above?

[sudden sparrow]

@broken egret we all hit those walls, I've also waited weeks to do lvling but it's worth it

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Level Brutus and Shemira to 180, place them as the frontliners. Shemira up top. Back can be Fawkes, Lyca, Arden. There won't be a bonus.. I think you may need to start investing in Wilders for faction scrolls now

[dull wadi]

Third time I'm asking 😂. Can someone please help me?

[proud pelican]

Any tips for me ?

[clear saddle]

L+ ira

@proud pelican don’t you need a tank in place of ferael? Does he get one shot by saveas or no?

[pale rover]

@warm tree Team is fine but more levels and ascensions for Lyca and Brutus.

[pale kettle]

@pale rover problem is is that I'm investing mualers and lb for belinda and brutus

[fair sky]

Could someone suggest me a team for this stage?

I tried

Bl
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Fl
Brutus
Tasi

[warm tree]

@pale rover okay, thanks, need to pull one more Brutus and I will have him go from Leg to Mythic, that might take some time though

[clear saddle]

@pale kettle lightbearers fall off fast, stop investing in them and go for wilders, you have a higher chance of not getting garbage in wilders. Maulers is not worth for Brutus because it’s a very slim chance to get him

[pale rover]

@dull wadi The stage doesn't look doable to me just yet. You need either a Lyca or a Brutus at a high enough ascension to frontline with, considering your enemies are ascended. Back could be Nemora, Arden, Estrilda/Fawkes.

[dull wadi]

@pale rover okay thank you 😃. In the mean time I'll find a way.

[clear saddle]

R+ Arden

[fading jasper]

Both leg+ and r+ get oneshot , better use him as fodder

[pale rover]

@clear saddle ^

I was going to type the long way but he said it better lmao

[sudden sparrow]

Why isn't @fading jasper blue named?

[clear saddle]

Yeah I know lol, I think 9 told me to fodder L+ Arden once I have a replacement one xd

[pale kettle]

@clear saddle tbh ira is rly good for gub with mythic gear fir her she does alot

[clear saddle]

Huh... I’m sure there are better replacements tho but ok

[fading jasper]

@sudden sparrow i dont help much

[sudden sparrow]

U sure?

@clear saddle uuu yeah, do that

[clear saddle]

?

[pale kettle]

@clear saddle call on lucuis first pic call on ira 2

[sudden sparrow]

Use Arden L+ as fodder until u got another R+/E+ arden

[clear saddle]

Hm okay, my saveas accomplishes the same thing and Belinda too

[pale kettle]

My belinda has bad boots

She's wearing same gear old b pic though

[sudden sparrow]

Oof

[clear saddle]

My Belinda as well and she does good 😃

She has bad boots 😃

[sly sparrow]

Need help 9-28 please

[pale kettle]

@brisk tapir https://youtu.be/t94osB-1qaI

[sudden sparrow]

@sly sparrow use that Tasi and let her Ulti do the job, if she doesn't do it on time, try again and again until it works

[pale kettle]

Or though call on her

[sudden sparrow]

If not, level everyone up a bit (5 or 10 lvls)

[pale kettle]

Idk know why they made it so you have 3 merc slot and can only use 1 hero and cant use the other 2 if you use 1

[regal swallow]

Who should I use as my pve team and who should I use for pvp team

[pale kettle]

@regal swallow brutus lucuis tasi fawkes and belinda

[regal swallow]

For pvp or pve?

[clear saddle]

Both

[regal swallow]

Ah okey ty x

[pseudo bear]

Any recommendation? My lyca and arden is only E and R+.

[pale rover]

@pseudo bear Tried skeet?

[pseudo bear]

@pale rover thanks but it’s okay. I already asked too much from him anyway

[pale rover]

@pseudo bear He enjoys it, don't worry.☺️ We're always here to help guildmates. But my advice would be go for as many Wilders as you can, luckily the opponent has no Lyca. Brutus bottom. Not sure if Tasi can frontline, if not put her behind Athalia. Charm Arden using your Nemora to root the enemies.

[pseudo bear]

@pale rover Thanks! May be I will ask him after Challenger tournaments play out

[pale rover]

@pseudo bear Sure! Don't worry about asking too much, we always bother him everyday irl (Raine and Astelian) he is very patient.😂

[still oar]

Hori shrooms @pseudo bear! Which stage is that?

[pseudo bear]

@still oar 20-60

[still oar]

Oh 20 60

Expect that to be chapter 22

[ocean hill]

I should upgrade safi right?

[still oar]

@ocean hill do you already have 5 Acsendeds? If not either khasos or maybe warek since they are 1 dupe away for A requirement

[pseudo aurora]

[ocean hill]

I have only shem as ascended

[still oar]

You need to plan your first 5 A since you will need them to raise your crystal

For now either you sink in on khasos since he is shop hero

So guaranteed A

Or wait for your luck

But you can buy warek in event shop

[forest flume]

You could buy the last needed warek from the current event and get him to ascended

@still oar ur fast

[ocean hill]

I might keep that in mind because I didn't have a good champ goal for the event yet

[still oar]

Lol

[manic sierra]

What should i be focusing on in my lineup? 😃

[ocean hill]

Would there be a better person to target? I've also thought of just getting scrolls / factions

[silk sentinel]

What should i do?

[molten apex]

Can I get help with line up and resonating crystal. That line up am thint of using not sure if I should change anything for early game

[fierce kayak]

@silk sentinel 1st off. Always overlevel your Carry like Savaes. Try to level him 20 to 40 levels ahead. Then level tank next, last support. Do not even level all heroes.

Try:
Saveas
Golus
Estilda
Hogan
Safiya/Atalia

[small acorn]

@molten apex lvl up saveas, he will carry your dps until chapter 13 roughly

[night gorge]

Any input on this here? Sadly shem cant tank upfront

[small acorn]

@night gorge yep, do you has tasi? Replace nemora with tasi and swap brutus top and shem bot front. This is 16-40 or 18-14 i forget

[night gorge]

16-40 no tasi sadly :/

[pale kettle]

Guys, I'm stuck on 6-28 any help?

[night gorge]

Lucius sadly instantly disappears if i try to tank with him

[fierce kayak]

@night gorge use 4 Wilders if vs all Wilders team. Usually works.

Try:
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Shemira
Arden

Lyca pushes you back, nemora charm top, both to buy time for Tasi + Shemira ulti.

[small acorn]

@night gorge ok leave nemora, but swap brutus and shem like i said, and also replace brutus with lucius. Just keep respamming fight until you get a good shield and ypur arden locks up kas from killing shem.

[night gorge]

If only i had a tasi ^^‘ sadly mercs are used up as well already

Aight ill try!

[small acorn]

Tasi is really really good with shem, aim for her

@night gorge also the lineup 9Jght suggested works really well. In many comps

[night gorge]

Ive only ever spent faction scrolls on wilders but tasi just never shows

[fierce kayak]

@night gorge you will need almost Tasi every stage soon. G luck rolling Wilders scrolls!

[small acorn]

@pale kettle put brutus pos 1 and saveas pos 3 so they both attack Vaden. See if they can kill vaden before he uses bats. If so you can win this stage

[silk sentinel]

@fierce kayak i did some changes is this good?

[night gorge]

Beat it with nemora lyca lucius shemira arden!!!

[fierce kayak]

@night gorge Gratz pal

[small acorn]

Grats

Pray to RNG god

[fierce kayak]

@silk sentinel seems ok for now till you pull more. I forgot what level Arden has 2 roots but once he has 2 roots.. he be in the main line-up. Drop Vedan and slot in lyca.

Keep levelling Sav till he max.

You can read some basic tips I just posted on #classic-questions a min ago.

[olive thorn]

@pseudo bear who's coffin by fawkes

[swift hatch]

Can someone help me make a good team out of what I have I’m just not sure what is good

[spring salmon]

what heroes should i use

[pale kettle]

Sos

[manic sierra]

What should i be building moving forward in the game?

[small acorn]

@manic sierra you are still early, so go to afk arena webpage and check out the published tier lists for pvp. It will clearly detail which heros to aim for

I use these tier lists, they are very helpful

[mental forum]

Guess I'm at the infamous 16-20

@silent wraith damn I didnt see so many of ur tags so I don't reply to any of them sry haha

[fierce kayak]

Yes.. it's tough @mental forum

[mental forum]

My discord notification is kinda bugged

[swift hatch]

Can’t figure out a good combo I keep the two wild and three light for the bonus but I don’t know if it is that worth any suggestions

[molten apex]

@small acorn should I keep the team as is?

[bitter hamlet]

Any idea 20-57?

[grim river]

Help! I'm stuck on the last fight of the labyrinth, made the mistake of doing hard mode. I cannot get past this fight at all, any suggestions? Since its the last level I don't care if I kill some heroes along the way but the enemy team will just heal up to 100% when I do that because of nemora. I've tried lots of combinations but looking for any advice yall got!

Forgot I also got 160 tasi and eirron from carts along the way

[swift hatch]

Was thinking to put ira and orgi into tasi and then running three graveborn tasi and lucius but don’t know what graveborn to have as three I have elite plus elinia have elite grezul so I could then either get elite vaden or niru

[fierce kayak]

@swift hatch build Savaes to L+ and overlevel him as a carry 20 to 40 levels ahead. Arden to 141 is important too.

Overlevel carry like Savaes first > Tank/arden > support.

Meanwhile use: Luiucs Hogan tank, tasi ira marel

[swift hatch]

Ok

[limpid quail]

@grim river did you try using kelthur to swap with nemora to kill her in the first fight when shes in your backline

[grim river]

@limpid quail I just tried that, not sure what team comp to use with kelthur. Tried a few different line ups and by the time 80% of my team is dead nemora is still at 100% health! I've also found that nemora just ends up on the other side and those who are left aren't even fighting her. I've tried so many team comps and within a second or two my front line is completely wiped out

[fierce kayak]

@grim river reset everyone to 140, except Arden 141, and overlevel Shemira. Brutus can go 141 if you want. Then use meta team, Brutus Shemira front and lyca tasi/Arden nemora back.

You should get thru, will will help you progress pve too.

[grim river]

Ok will try that

[fierce kayak]

@grim river lucius/brutus will do. Main thing is all level on Shemira.

If Shemira can't tank Wilders.. use lyca offtank for Shemira or use Lucius Brutus tank.

[unreal solar]

Advice?

[molten apex]

Shemira +savaes carries right? How do I pick other 3

[unreal solar]

Commonly Saveas is your carry until level 160,then shem takes over at 161

[grim river]

Damn@fierce kayak I reset and could only get shemira up to 180. Still lost with that team comp, made a little bit of progress as far as decreasing their health but nemora will just heal them up anyway. Not sure if I should waste another duras tear/if its even possible for me to beat this

[fierce kayak]

@grim river I would use dura tear. They are for lab only anyway.. next time ouwill play hard mode with care/ or skip for now. Slowly.. Mythic Shemira and above will slowly help you past hard mode better so less likely be using tears again.

[grim river]

I've played through hard mode before and it didn't give me quite this much trouble. Any other suggestions for team comps to try?

[fierce kayak]

@grim river not sure about others. Lucius nemora helps so I using Shemira Lucius tank, nemora and Wilders back

[placid hawk]

Any help please.?

[grim river]

@fierce kayak Oh man. This is so frustrating. Whenever I get somewhat close to killing one, nemora just heals everyone back up and then my entire team dies

[small acorn]

@grim river what is this comp in hardmode?

[small acorn]

If you have lucius/shem/nem like 9Jght suggested will carry you for months in hardmode

[grim river]

Well, I've already tried that and its not working so well

[small acorn]

Show me lineup

[grim river]

Wait sorry this one

[small acorn]

So heros are brutus, lucius, arden, shem, tasi/nem

Make sure Eroinn sucks in brutus and does not suck in shem and arden. If this meams you need to remove lucius and frontline shem do it

[fierce kayak]

@grim river as your full roster and enemy position and tag me?

[small acorn]

Not sure what your energy lvls are at going in. Always remeber to choose damage relics

[fierce kayak]

@grim river can show in game stage enemies like others here? Wanna see your power too

[grim river]

Let me know if I can prove the placement of my heroes

[fair sky]

14-38
Could someone help me please? :)

[small acorn]

@grim river make sure arden and shemira dont get pulled by Eroinn. You should beat this

[grim river]

How do I do that?

[small acorn]

Eroinm pulls in a cone infront of him, just move shem and arden position so they are not hit by the cone

[grim river]

Ok, so not front line? I don't have Arden in my team comp right now. Who should I replace?

[small acorn]

Try nemora firsr, lyca is good for haste. If you jave haste relic then replace lyca

[fierce kayak]

@fair sky try:
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora

[small acorn]

Ypu just need roots and banish them pop slumber and obviously use shem ult at start. Remeber to be on manual ults for this

If your using @fierce kayak formation suggestion and shemira dies to Eroinn ult then place her where nemora is and put brutus at front.

[grim river]

I feel like I am doing something wrong. Tried this line up and by the time I exited the battle, Arden was the only one still alive and the enemy team was all at 100% health

[small acorn]

You should win this fight. Goal is as always, shem ults, rest of team just protect shem with CC

Lol dude, you need tasi for spumber

[clear saddle]

i love me some spumber 😉

[grim river]

Ok, just confused because you said I need lyca and Arden and shem so I don't know where to put tasi

[small acorn]

You dont need lucius and brutus

[grim river]

But who should I put in my front line then?

[small acorn]

Lyca, she can die. Her only role in her life is to haste arden and tasi for quick CC at start

@fair sky swap shem and tasi position and pray to RNG gods

[fierce kayak]

@grim river try:

Shemira/nemora
Lyca
Nemora/shemira
Brutus
Arden

It be tough for you if no matter how many times you try.. their casting speed still faster then you.

Cos if you can just charm Ulums first and Arden root them first.. Then there is chance.

[grim river]

Finally got it, only spent like 5 duras tears. Man, hard mode is a bitch.

[indigo jolt]

Was jsut going to suggest using eironn to counter enemy eironn..

[placid hawk]

Any help please

[steep cape]

@placid hawk general help or for stage

[placid hawk]

General

[small acorn]

@grim river always choose damage relics, and search afk tier list for best relics against wizz

[fierce kayak]

@grim river gratz

[small acorn]

And grats, persistance pays off. I used 3 tears every hardmode when i started it. But once you know relics and heros to carry you cam get through withoit much hassle. I have like 20 tears now...

[umbral badger]

Sanity check time!
I can make either of the following legendary right now:

a) Khasos
b) Warek

I may be somewhat short of tanks, but since I have L160 Saveas Khasos' leech may be a more important pairing. Yes? No?

[strong vale]

Is it worth it to use Silvina as fodder for Ferael to go L+ and replace her with Isabella for my line up or wait for this lucky Silvina drop and use lv1 fodders for it?

[steep cape]

Khaos is great. Bump him

[strong vale]

Don't bump him with ascended tier guys

[umbral badger]

@steep cape IMHO Khasos' axes' sounds and animation combo merits "best in game".
No: I will use only fodder.

[steep cape]

@placid hawk remove archer chick, vurk and vedan from resonator. Put athalia eirron and nemora in resonator. Manually level sav and have him 20-30 levels above the rest of your team. Run 4 light for time being with saveas as your main damager, or run 3 grave - shem Nara grezhul with sav and athalia

[umbral badger]

@strong vale I know that even crappy Ascended tier heroes like Seirus may someday be adjusted in game patches, so it's still never a good idea to burn Ascended capable heroes.

[steep cape]

@umbral badger I’m confused on your comment lol

[mighty wing]

Can anyone help with a team to build and get a faction going?

[steep cape]

@strong vale eat silv. Fareal is one of best grave in game especially later on. Silv is metiocre until she’s very high level and even then there are so many heroes that counter her

[umbral badger]

@steep cape About sounds/animations? Just an aside since they only amount to eye candy, but if that was the sole reason I'd have done it already. Seems my thoughts about laddering Khasos first are valid, so I'll do that 👌

[strong vale]

@steep cape now I'm having second thoughts cus Isabelle has only 3 blue items when Silvina 3 purples and a gold

[umbral badger]

I was just making sure wasn't overlooking something important about Warek. He'll stay where he is until later; if by then I still haven't lucked into another copy of Brutus, I may ladder him next.

[steep cape]

Remove Isabella and raine. Put athalia and safiya in resonator. Next open spot put Arden in. Archer chick is pretty bad. Build Arden ASAP. I ran a 3/2 at your stage with sav thoran saf shem and Nara/athalia. You will still use tasi, Arden in certain spots but not often until later in game (after lvl 141)

[strong vale]

Unless the power bump from 2 ascensions will overcome the power decrease from item loss

[mighty wing]

@steep cape you talking to me?

[steep cape]

You will get more gear. That’s not a reason to hold on to a unit. Khaos is great because even if he does your team still gets the boost once he’s leveled. Isablella is pretty much a must for faction towers later on. As mentioned Silv imo is pretty useless except for very extreme circumstances as she’s so squishy. Even if you’re lucky enough to dive a intelligence hero she probably won’t live long enough to kill. @strong vale @mighty wing yes that las was for you, sorry

[umbral badger]

@Raptor#8072 Oops. Misread my cards and still 1x E+ fodder away from bumping Khasos (made E+ Ankhira). I'll just make another combistible E+ before proceeding 🙃

[fierce kayak]

@mighty wing try to only ascend heroes if you only you can get the hero straight to L+ if possible.

Continue level Sav till he hit cap.

You have a tank issue now

[mighty wing]

What should my line up be? Sav Shem Saf Thoran and Fer?

[fierce kayak]

@strong vale focus on building Shemira to M+ before moving to another ascended tier GB hero.

[dull swan]

any help for this battle? i also have a 64 saveas and i don’t know what i really need help with. ( the 69-70 level heroes r from arcane labyrinth)

and i also do not mind if some of them die this is the last battle at floor 3

[fierce kayak]

@mighty wing you lack of tank, for now try
Shemira and estilda tank, sav atalia belinda for now.

Estilda move to middle back replace atalia, belinda bot if estilda can't tank. Use other tank instead.

Get Arden to 141.

@dull swan hi bud, do post 2 pics together next time for others to advise you more accurately. Your full tram roster and stage enemy which you posted. :)

[dull swan]

@fierce kayak ok but this is basically all the heroes i have XD i’ll be careful next time

[mighty wing]

@fierce kayak I want to get a faction, would you change the lineup to meet the faction criteria?

[fierce kayak]

@dull swan no no.. not a warning or wait... just it's better that way. Chill bud

[tacit kayak]

how can i proceed here?

[fierce kayak]

@mighty wing team composition matters more than faction bonus early game cos.. we don't have lots of heroes anyway. Atalia is there to make up the bonus too

[fleet knoll]

Should i upgrade Mireal? im stuck at 4-36 campagin now & lack of Aoe dmg dealer

[iron elm]

Looking for help on who I should be using and leveling

[mighty wing]

@fierce kayak is this how it should look for team position?

[umbral badger]

Next question. I'm not using Eironn, so I can boot him off and wait 24h and do one of the following:

a) Ladder Raine to L (using only fodder heroes, of course), since she
b) Work on making Hogan L, then L+, because foddering him will free up a crystal slot instantly anyhow.

Worth considering a) since I already have one more Raine at E and am therefore close to making her L+?

[fierce kayak]

@mighty wing ok, atalia you just position her across anyone you wanna disable (usually mage)

So for this stage maybe try:
Sav
Estilda
Belinda
Shemira
Atalia

[mighty wing]

thanks for the help 😃

[small acorn]

@tacit kayak do you have enough dust to take shem 161? Otherwise try put you saveas behind brutus so they gang up on enemy brutus and replace lyca with lucius.

[spring salmon]

what heroes should i use

[small acorn]

Obs move lucous to front and nemora down to wherr lyca was

@spring salmon diff heros for diff stages. Saveas is always good carry until 160. Loolat afk arena webpage it lists heros on how good they aree in current meta

[spring salmon]

okay thanks

[small acorn]

@iron elm you have the makings of a great teams. Brutus, shemira, nemora, tasi, lyca. All ppweful

@spring salmon you need shemira afte lvl160

[spring salmon]

ok thanks

[tacit kayak]

@small acorn need all to 140 to get shem 161, got 16k dust ready though

[small acorn]

Shem 161 is beyter then saveas 160

Arden need 141 for 3x roots though.

[tacit kayak]

ive also been told to get crystal 141 first before 161 shem so i got 7 second brutus immortality

[willow radish]

How can I change my e-mail address was stolen

[tacit kayak]

@small acorn do you agree or should i just go for shem anyway

[small acorn]

@tacit kayak brutus needs 141 yeah

You eventually have to make the switch. And brutus/shem wil be your bread and butter for ages.

[past nymph]

I've been a bit unlucky and gotten almost no dupes, trying to use fawkes as my carry since nobody else can go past 100 and I'm just not progressing at all. Nodoby seems to heal or cc all too well for me yet, any ideas on a good general comp?

[trail gulch]

Any suggestions for this stage or team changes in general?

[dark tundra]

@trail gulch
Try this
Tasi
Brut
Arden
Shem
Lyca

Just swap the wilders at back if that doesn't work. And u could use nemora too is u want. But try that first

[zinc wren]

Any advice for this stage? Thanks!

[trail gulch]

@dark tundra okay will try soon driving now ;) thanks

[steep cape]

Does sav do any damage anymore @zinc wren

[pseudo bear]

@zinc wren may be reset lucius to push brutus to 200 since enemy team is all wilders

[brisk tapir]

@zinc wren

[mental forum]

Anyone know the best lineup for 16-20? Prob not high level enough to pass it yet but would be better to set up the lineup first

[turbid fern]

Hey, any idea for 11-16 please ?

[coral leaf]

Stuck at 12-4 and ancient ruins peak of serenity

[feral goblet]

Stuck on 8-12 any help on it?

[coral leaf]

@feral goblet would try and get saveas to high level. Should be easy enough

[feral goblet]

What unit should I replace for Saveas?

Also which units should I prioritize to level up to 101?

[coral leaf]

Forgot her name, the chick on the horse. That team with the inclusion of saveas should carry you too 11 easy( if you keep leveling them)!

[feral goblet]

Thx so much

How about the formation, keep Saveas back in the middle and leave Namora and Tasi as is?

[turbid fern]

Hey, any idea for 11-16 please ?

[feral goblet]

I also have the duras grace artificial, which unit should use it?

[steep cape]

Grace on Brutus @feral goblet

[oblique phoenix]

I'm stuck as heck, any advice? 😊

[feral goblet]

Stuck on the peaks of level quest, secrets of the forest, what units should I use?

[ember mango]

Is it a good comp ? I've started this morning

[feral goblet]

@ember mango is that what units you’ve pulled? Lucky. Level up Tasi and Lucius there the best

What other units do u own?

[feral goblet]

Ira can be replaced by Saveas, Saveas is excellent.

You’ll eventually get a Hogan elite so ascend and level that unit

[ember mango]

Saveas is the one who deals damage but sacrifice his HP, right ?

[feral goblet]

Yea

Idk much bout Hendrick since I’ve never had that unit, it’s replaceable

It’s good you have the healer Numisu.

[ember mango]

Yeah I read on the internet that he isn't very reliable, but I think he's pretty strong. Hendrick is a very nice tank, nice CC and he can save a dying character on the backline

[feral goblet]

Since your new go into the labyrinth stage, finish it and save up labyrinth tokens for the best healer in the game Namora

[ember mango]

I've already finished the labyrinth when i was lvl 12

[frank scarab]

It refreshes every 48 hours btw

[feral goblet]

Keep saving tokens

[ember mango]

yeah I have 33h more to wait x)

[dusky parrot]

I'm stuck on 9-39. how can i go over it?

[ember bane]

16-20 Need advice plz ty

[wary verge]

I would love some general help

[hushed girder]

updated hero box. what can be used to beat 5-20?

disregard, swapped in brutus and got to 5-28

[neon pollen]

Not sure what to do, I know Tasi is fine being E+ but I can't seem to Outlast it do I need to wait for lyca/Nemora L+?

[pale kettle]

Best line-up with these heros? Im not sure

How could I beat this?

[lusty cipher]

Just killed my first enemy in 9-20, the mage in front top. Can I edit this setup in any way to beat the lvl?

I'll try that

Yee. I'm thinking put athalia in the top

If nemora wasn't on the enemy team, I could win

[frank scarab]

The way i beat this level back then was id distract and cc ira and isabella somehow while trying to kill the guys in front
The problem and why its so hard to beat is those 2 both melt you way too fast without you being able to do anything back on account of those 2 being toi damn tanky

Maybe you need to level up a lot first
I beat the level only when i had level 120 on everyone except a belinda that was 135 or skmething

[lusty cipher]

I've managed to kill the front 2 independently in different attempts

[frank scarab]

Try to focus on killing numisu first and finding a way for ira isabella not to do too much damage to you

[lusty cipher]

I can't get to numisu which is a bit of a problem

Unless I put athalia in back middle, which would cc her to the front

But my tanks would already be aggroed on their tanks/whatever

If I somehow got 1 more Brutus and made him legendary+ that could work

But I can't easily get another brutis

I got lucius to legendary first, then Belinda. I only got the other 2 to legendary within the last few days

[loud osprey]

Any suggestions? Meta team gets slaughterd😕

[lusty cipher]

Should I bump brutis up to 121?

He gets 25% haste when his hp is low

I'm gonna bump brutis to 121, lucius to 121, and Belinda as high as I can. Or should I bring lyca up to 121 too?

[frank scarab]

i meant niru mb
Thats a very important part of the stage so you realky might need to level up a bunch first

[lusty cipher]

Nah, he kinda barely survives

He survives the best for awhile

But he gets low quickly. Also, I don't have enough purple dust stuff to bring Brutus to 121

[frank scarab]

ye ull prolly havr to wait a looong while
Get EVERYONE to 120 and a main carry much higher
Get the duras eye and maybe even call artifact

[lusty cipher]

Who would be a good carry to lvl?

[loud osprey]

Shem all the way

[lusty cipher]

From like 9-1 to 9-20 lucius and Belinda were the only heroes that survived, and they destroyed everything

[frank scarab]

^ LMAO
saveas solves everything
you can either level a ton on belinda or brutus

A fawkes or cc support wouldn't hurt either, you really need to incapacitate or distract ira isabella

[lusty cipher]

O fk i killed two of them that time

Killed Ira and Vedan with
Athalia 100
Brutus 120
Numisu 100
Lucius 130
Belinda 130

I'll try that, but I can't use numisu gear on lyca

[fresh vortex]

Little help or advice? 20-36

[lusty cipher]

I killed those same 2 again, but Brutus got mind controlled and murdered lyca

[proven finch]

Any help?

[lusty cipher]

Holy fk I almost killed nemora with the same setup too

Do I lvl lyca (I didn't use all my hero exp), lucius, or Belinda?

Sorry @fresh vortex and @proven finch lol

[lusty cipher]

Oh holy crap I got so close. I leveled Lyca to 114 with the spare exp I had, and killed everyone except Nemora

WOOOOOOO I GOT IT

[turbid fern]

Any idea for 11-16 please ?

[twin mist]

Can someone help me out with the formation? I kinda don't know what's the best

[lusty cipher]

I had
Athalia 100
Lucius 130
Lyca 114
Brutus 120
Belinda 130

[frank scarab]

@turbid fern try using brutus to tank saveas, make saveas target ogi and not golus

[outer terrace]

Why does this comp not work? I watched somebody use this exact same comp and beat 16-36 easily

[frank scarab]

Also why is your estrilda and hendrik 140 but sav only 132 :angryeyees: thats a crime
Could be your ascension levels maybe aaron

[sly sparrow]

Need help 9-28

[frank scarab]

Try fawkes over athalia

[sly sparrow]

Thats all?

[frank scarab]

Then since your sav is at a meh level, maybe u can replace him with something that does more damage

Im not too good at this whole lineup help thing so im just giving suggestions on what i think could help out a lot on the level

Could try belinda fawkes raine if saveas cant do enough damage, or belinda mirael fawkes

Or, youre not leveled high enough and you should wait

[obtuse void]

Messed up resonance placements so grezul stuck at 1 for 2 more hours....

[sly sparrow]

Oh...

[obtuse void]

Ignore the frontline Saveas... I was just pushing around everyone for OMG RNG WIN.

[frank scarab]

sorry, not too sure what else could help, but try my tips first then see if it helps or not
if it doesnt, then please ask someone better than me then

[lapis sand]

Please I posted my pics 4 times already!!!!!

[sly sparrow]

Its ok i will wait

[frank scarab]

Try swapping saveas to the lowest part to focus niru i guess? Not like youll be breaking through brutus anytime soon since that boy never dies (brutus gets banished anyway, and if you put arden in the middle and get lucky, you couuld end up rooting saveas too)
Putting arden in the middle also prevents saveas from getting distracted and damaging silvina over the tanks instead (because if he isnt in the middle tasi will be and silv will usually jump on tasi)

@lapis sand

[lapis sand]

@frank scarab so bring my saveos down and put arden in the middle?

[frank scarab]

Yeah that, it might work
I hope your brutus holds up long enough otherwise the whole thing crumbles to saveas :'^)
Trust in the rng arden root though

[pale kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568025210498842633/602566126458765455/Screenshot_20190721_212126_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.jpg?width=232&height=497 any idea on the best comp with this dudes ?

[lapis sand]

@frank scarab my brutus dont last long ;(

[misty flare]

How do you tell which heroes are range and which are melee?

[viscid stream]

@misty flare go to Heroes, then Portraits, and select a hero. You can test them for free against random enemies.

[pale kettle]

any idea ? im hardstuck

.

[loud halo]

Id appreciate any kind of help

[turbid fern]

@Maylis [12-12, 12-33, 10-36] I've tried with brutus but he's too squishy so no luck on beating the stage. Re saevas, I've got him L+ this morning and is at 133 now , I'll get him to 140 next (hendrik is 137 which I got after Estrilda)

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle shemira right back, lyca right front, brutus left front and arden mid. Try until your arden root both khasos and saveas. Tasi left back

[pale kettle]

and no tasi ? i feel like she is doing work

my bad xD ill try

[turbid fern]

need help on 11-16 please @frank scarab Maylis [12-12, 12-33, 10-36] I've tried with brutus but he's too squishy so no luck on beating the stage. Re saevas, I've got him L+ this morning and is at 133 now , I'll get him to 140 next (hendrik is 137 which I got after Estrilda)

[shut marsh]

@loud halo
Nemora
Luci
Arden
Saveas
Lyca

Try to charm ankhira before her cacoon so she will cacoon a team mate

[pale kettle]

@shut marsh nah, even if i root them, i still get wiped

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle does vurk one shot tasi?

[sly sparrow]

Id need help with 9-28

[pale kettle]

yeah

[shut marsh]

Then swap her with shemira

[pale kettle]

i almost win, shemira has to 1v1 brutus, i've swapped but it's worse

[shut marsh]

Keep trying, you can win

[pale kettle]

will try, thx

[shut marsh]

Even try arden left back. You have enough to beat that stage

[pale kettle]

how can you tell xD ? im so curious how some of you guys know this stuff so well

[shut marsh]

Its because we have been there and we tried like 100-200 times to beat them

At some point, you will have to 2v1 brutus, shem and tasi. Tasi will be behind of brutus and he will spin into tasi.

[pale kettle]

eyyyyy, got it, with shemira mid and arden top

[shut marsh]

Congratz. You can get stage 17 with those heroes.

[pale kettle]

what

i feel like im not going to win the next boss fight

[shut marsh]

But you should focus shemira instead of using your exp and dust to make 161

[pale kettle]

i felt like i needed brutus 161 for some reason, idk why

[shut marsh]

You def need shem 200

We almost have same team and im at 18-16, my shem is 200

[pale kettle]

il focus on her now, good to know, wish i had a better tasi tho

[shut marsh]

I use elite+ tasi too. You just need her to survive long enough to pop her sleep

[proven finch]

Any help?

[shut marsh]

What stage is this? 17-20?

[pale kettle]

thx for all the help and advice @shut marsh

[shut marsh]

@proven finch first, make your brutus m+ right now.

[proven finch]

15-34

Should I sac saveas? He's useful in faction towers so idrk

[silent wraith]

if u need to make brutus M+ for towers

[shut marsh]

You have an e+ so you are fine

[proven finch]

Ok

Done

[shut marsh]

Tasi
Brutus
Shem
Lyca
Arden

[proven finch]

Ty

[shut marsh]

If it doesnt work, try

Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi

Nemora has to charm ankhira

[obsidian sparrow]

any veteran can help me and tell what team should I use/what team to aim for, Im currently at 10-36

[grizzled solar]

@pale kettle did you borrow mercs?

[pale kettle]

aaaaaand im stuck again :/

[grizzled solar]

@pale kettle ID?

[shut marsh]

@obsidian sparrow first of all, dont make legendary heroes before having 4 copies of that hero. You dont know which hero you to get 4 copies to make it mythic. Make saveas 160 asap and use arden tasi lyca in your campaign team for cc

[grizzled solar]

Need ID too lazy to remember a name

[placid vortex]

Guys, can you please give me some tips? I have two slots in my crystal, plus I'm thinking about resetting Ira

[obsidian sparrow]

@shut marsh got it, thanks bud

[pale kettle]

@shut marsh that brutus kills everything :/

[sudden sparrow]

@placid vortex Do it
Then, use Ezhiz as a tank until you get a heroe like Brutus or Lucius

[shut marsh]

Release athaila. Put tasi to crystal. Get a saveas asap. Use tasi and saveas and you are fine.

[pale kettle]

i don't feel that is winnable whatsoever

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle arden right

[placid vortex]

Why do I need to put Tasi to crystal? Because she is a support?

[pale kettle]

tasi can't ult in that comp Mercan

[grizzled solar]

@pale kettle give me a min to get my Brutus back

[shut marsh]

Tasi is one of the best overall hero and even i use e+ at stage 18-16

[green thorn]

Where should i use my tavern coins im thinking graveborn or LB ??

[pale kettle]

nvm, i won

[sudden sparrow]

Wilders @green thorn

[shut marsh]

You need to understand the reason of resonating crystal. You level your high ascended 5 heroes and put rest to resonating crystal. So you can make an e+ hero level +120

@pale kettle as i said, you are strong enough to make it at least 16.

[pale kettle]

i hope, im pushing to 16, im 15-36 hopefully ill get there

[green thorn]

@sudden sparrow thanks for that I got tasi !!!

[shut marsh]

This is how i get to 18-14 @pale kettle

[sudden sparrow]

Np man @green thorn

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle you probably have more overall points than me.

[pale kettle]

@shut marsh what the hell, we are exactly the same :))

[shut marsh]

I just checked. You have 1600k and i have 1900

[pale kettle]

i just have to level up the shemira and i should be good

[shut marsh]

And you need that e+ niru.

[placid vortex]

So for me a lineup of Ezizh, Shemira, Tasi, Saveas and who should be the last?

[pale kettle]

wokring on him

help me

[shut marsh]

Dont use shemira. Shemira is just bad before level 161. Ezizh, saveas, tasi, arden,

[grizzled solar]

@pale kettle mercs seem broke and the guy said he returned it but not showing it so can you look to see if it is and if not request my silv or Arden

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle dont you have lyca?

[sudden sparrow]

@placid vortex I don't think your Shemira can tank at that level so put Hogan Frontline instead and Shemira Backline

[pale kettle]

nope...she doesn't like me so she never pops up on My screen

[shut marsh]

Nemora?

[pale kettle]

Trying to beat chapter 11 rn so I can get nemora

[grizzled solar]

Apply for both

[shut marsh]

Athaila isnt good for that team. You have saveas, dont need another dps

[placid vortex]

So perhaps Ezizh, Hogan, Tasi, Saveas, Shemira? I don't have an arden plus I was also thinking about mehira?

[grizzled solar]

You can only use one at a time try silv firstbut brb gotta accept

[pale kettle]

Khasos will one shot my arden if no one distracts him so I am using athalia as a distraction

@shut marsh aaand im stuck again :))

[shut marsh]

Hmm. When you use lyca, arden root khasos before khasos uses his axes.

[pale kettle]

I have DE on Arden which helps him go faster but then at times he doesn't hold him back

[sudden sparrow]

@placid vortex Your formation should look like this:
Hogan/Ezhiz
Ezhiz/Hogan
Saveas/Tasi
Shemira
Tasi/Saveas
If you want, try using Mehira instead of Tasi and put her on the Backline center

[placid vortex]

Thanks :)

[grizzled solar]

Lineup @pale kettle

Actually do Arden first take out raine

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me with lineup for 8-40

[sudden sparrow]

Raine is useless AF on campaign unless you're running a full LB team @pale kettle

[grizzled solar]

Take out Hendrick for nem and ath for arden

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle Put your Brutus in front on the enemy's Brutus, Saveas behind your Brutus and try switching Arden or Tasi for Mirael or Belinda

[grizzled solar]

And if not Shem sav ath silv and Lucius

[sudden sparrow]

Which stage u r on? @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

@shut marsh

@sudden sparrow already tried that but the enemy silvina oneshot my backline 1 by 1

They destroy me, îs this doable?

[proven finch]

15-34 feels undoable tbh

[sudden sparrow]

Enemies are level 120? @pale kettle if yes, level your heroes up, those level gaps make a huge difference

[proven finch]

I even got my Brutus to m+ but like still

[sudden sparrow]

@weary socket it's impossible at your heroes current ascension level (or at least that's how I see it)

[weary socket]

Okie dokie

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle use nemora instead of lyca now. Charm farael. Arden left to root shemira, nemora mid to charm farael and tasi right.

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle then get some LB and Mauler Fodder and ascend Saveas and Hogan, focus on upgrading Saveas and use Hogan instead of Khasos

[shut marsh]

@weary socket dont use shemira. Use tasi arden and lyca if you have

[pale kettle]

still can't win, i think i tried 40 times

[shut marsh]

Did you manage to make farael use his skill upon his teammates?@pale kettle

[sly sparrow]

Could this work? 9-28

[sudden sparrow]

Use Brutus instead of Serius

[pale kettle]

no, cuz tasi banishes him

[shut marsh]

Dont use tasi and use lyca for a few times. Test it.

[pale kettle]

on it

[sly sparrow]

@sudden sparrow that breaks faction bonus though...

[pale kettle]

damn, i had shem vs shem and i lost

[sudden sparrow]

Doesn't matter

I didn't use Faction Bonus until c.12 xd

[sly sparrow]

Oh wwll... everything else ok? Heard wilders deal more dmg to graveborn

[pale kettle]

yea, i dont think i can get this one mercan

[brisk tapir]

Désert waste last boss, any Idea ?

[sudden sparrow]

@sly sparrow yup

[sly sparrow]

Welp was close but then Isabella wrecked Tasi in 1v1... ďefinitely better than it was before though

[pale kettle]

@shut marsh this isn't winnable

[sudden sparrow]

@sly sparrow try it again and again until you beat it

[sly sparrow]

Alright i will give them better gear

@sudden sparrow oh also who can i put dura grace and eye on

Id say grace Brutus and eye Kaz

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle it should be tho. Do you use duras grace on brutus and call on tasi?

[pale kettle]

@shut marsh yes, i did it, had to hit some hard RNG tho

[dull wadi]

Hmm what should I do? Don't tell me this isn't winnable. I just pasted 3 levels last night and people told me it is not winnable.

[shut marsh]

Thats what im saying, with some good RNG you can progress a lot.

[pale kettle]

thx for carrying me to 16

[shut marsh]

@dull wadi its winnable. Swap lyca with shemira.

[sudden sparrow]

Use the Grace on Arden, he still can get but while using Ulti, and yeah, the Eye in Kaz seems good to me @sly sparrow

[pale kettle]

can you tell me ur artifacts on heroes, i wanna doublecheck them, i did not have grace on brutus

[shut marsh]

Uh you dont have tasi. Its making it a bit harder.

[pale kettle]

I just beat it @shut marsh

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle call tasi, blade shemira, grace brutus, eye lyca and drape arden

[dull wadi]

@shut marsh I won with lyca instead of brutus and that light girl behind her.

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle nice pull

[pale kettle]

Ah.. i might need to make estrilda or belinda to mythic now but that means ill lose one of them

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle Just don't

[turbid fern]

Any help for 11-16 please ?

[shut marsh]

You need to sacrifice lyca mostly at these stages. Especially against ogi. Ogi smash prevent your cc heroes to use their skills. When you use lyca in front of ogi, lyca doesnt walk trough ogi so ogi uses smash a little bit later. That delay allows you to use skills.
@pale kettle congratz!

[pale kettle]

@shut marsh can i do vipers marsh with this comp ?

[shut marsh]

Its hard but yes. I did a week or a bit long ago so i assume i had same level shemira.

[pale kettle]

will give it a try

[shut marsh]

You need to try a lot. First, kill small camps, get myth tasi and kill lb bosses with full cc, no lyca.

[pale kettle]

@sudden sparrow no I got her from completing chapter 11. thanks @shut marsh

[shut marsh]

@pale kettle shemira hits lb so hard because of the legendary relic you get at the start.

[pale kettle]

hopefully ill get this

[shut marsh]

And attack LB bosses with full energy tasi

[pale kettle]

need 2 more shem to upgrader her again

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle either way, she's good AF, use the Tavern Tokens on Wilders faction and hope to get more copies of her, Tasi and Lyca

[shut marsh]

After beating 2 small camps go east for another small. Then head north for mid lb camp on left side of little lake. Go north for wilder mercenary and beat middle camp above it. Then beat 2 small camps there. After getting all these relics, go LB boss@pale kettle

[pale kettle]

alright, ill give it a try

@sudden sparrow I pulled roght away because I was hoping for Lucius but nope, he didn't pop up

[sudden sparrow]

That's why don't use TT on other factions, the probabilities of getting good heroes are minor than Wilders

[shut marsh]

Use all faction scrolls wilder, no matter what

Its not only for good heroes. You will need lots of food heroes to ascend good wilder heroes.

[pale kettle]

alright, will do

@sudden sparrowah I see

[frigid karma]

Need some advice on this line... new to this and tried a few different combos but no luck

[steep cape]

While I ageee wilder are some of best heroes in game I disagree to “always use faction scrolls on wilder”. Wilder teams blow early game. Start getting decent mid and excel late game. Early to mid game mauler and grave are by far best to invest in and late game grave is still one of if not best. Fareal Nara shem gret thoran baden all amazing heroes. If you need fodder use faction scrolls on camp you need fodder.

[frigid karma]

Also got these 2 mercenaries

[shut marsh]

@steep cape i still need tons of wilder fodder on ch18

[sudden sparrow]

@pale kettle Don't listen to @steep cape Spend TT on Wilders, and buy Shemira from Lab store, that's all you have to do, also, early game, the best heroes are Saveas, Arden, Mirael and maybe Hogan and Silvina or Vaden, but you can easily replace them later on

[obtuse void]

I really like the Wilder sword dude. Always pick him up if I see in labyrinth.

[sudden sparrow]

Eironn?

[steep cape]

Lol Whatever you say Rass. As someone who has almost never needed wilder to this point and still cruising through stages you’re probably right 🙄

[sudden sparrow]

Meta is all a new player needs, later on he can try and go wild but it's safer to use meta teams early game

[steep cape]

Vedan/Silv def not met

[real sphinx]

Do you guys have any tips for building arena lineup out of this?

[sudden sparrow]

Yup, but they're good the first 1 or 2 chapters

[steep cape]

Oh lol you’re talking like new to game meta... I still disagree but everyone has preferences

[shut marsh]

I need tons of wilder food

I can make 4 mythic+ out of here

[steep cape]

Ghet shem sav Nara kelth/athalia for attack. Defense same thing but def athalia

@real sphinx @shut marsh this is what I have and still don’t worry about all wilder

[shut marsh]

What stage you are on?

[steep cape]

16-20 now

My hero’s are only 160- my Brut who is 180

[shut marsh]

We have almost same power and im 18-14. It means you made something wrong.

[steep cape]

No it doesn’t? That power of everyone in your bag... don’t mean sh*t

Bet you have ascended and or multiple mythic?

[summer hatch]

Finally got my final shemira which allowed me to push her from legendary to m+. What should my lineup be?

[faint quest]

Finally beat this hell stage

[real sphinx]

my question was rather in general than about wilders as im mainly gb

[shut marsh]

Shemira and lucius. Bet you have 2 mythic too

@summer hatch make her 161 first before using instead of saveas. And regress that legendary belinda

Just reset saveas and level shemira to 161@summer hatch

Then you can try estrilda lucius shemira belinda thane. But you will need cc team on some stages, lucius shemira tasi arden lyca

[steep cape]

Considering shem can carry right through at level 161 it’s not surprising.. plus a mythic lucious which again can provide shield for your shem to carry.. kaz cant carry and I made her mythic early in for nothing more then quests and because don’t have heroes to make anyone else mythic. As for Brutus, he’s fantastic but without secondary heroes to back him up he’s left to solo carry. So before you try and act like you made all the right moves, realize you had a lot of luck to get a mythic lucious and mythic shem... @shut marsh. But again what do I know, you clearly think you’ve got the game cased 🤣

[shut marsh]

Well, i actually got it. Good luck further.

[steep cape]

As to you sir

[summer hatch]

I feel crippled now that I reset saveas and pushed shemira to 161. Is there any ascensions I could do to make up for it?

[shut marsh]

No. Dont ascend heroes that you dont use and especially when you dont have 4 copies

[formal flame]

I'm stuck on 9-20. Any lineup suggestions?

[shut marsh]

Did you regress your legendary belinda? @summer hatch

@formal flame do you have 3 rare hogans? Oh nevermind

[formal flame]

Just two.

[summer hatch]

No I can push her to mythic but I’d have to sacrifice estrilda

[shut marsh]

I tought your lucius is L+