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athalia will cap fairly early level wise since ascending her is difficult
i would put her in your crystal and overlevel sav and arden
saveas is the way to go
I stuck on 5-20 its pretty ealry lvl I guess, making choise between saves and athalia
@pale kettle
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Not sure if this will work, but shemira should kill off estrilda pretty quickly if placed in front of her
Any advice here tried a few different setups no luck
Hmm try
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Gorvo
Saveas
Make sure that nemora has lower defense than arden so she baits silvina away from him
Leveling may also be an issue, getting your heroes past 101 should help quite a bit!
Yeah i get the feeling š stacking up dust is real hard
Ooh great job!
Ya I need like 3600 dust atm lmao
If you have the gold and youāre not already doing this you should buy hero dust from the shop every day when possible! It helps a lot. Also clearing kingās tower stages and peaks of time/labyrinth drops dust too
Ya already cleared as much as I could for tower and will start checking the shop though
Kings tower 187 please help been stuck for weeks
fk yeah i made it
Could you frontline shemira instead of lyca?
Need help on 11-36 any tips? People said I was too low of a level to pass 11-32 but Iāve made it all the way to here with this setup
here we go
thank u guys
@cloud ermine who is giving you most trouble?
Well with this current setup I can only get up to khasos and estrilda out the way then sometimes I get Angelo but then sav and the dude with the gun are still alive and destroy my sav
It seems like you have a really good setup š¤ what happens if you switch nemora and arden positions?
Should I make changes on my main for stages, and who should I invest levels into next
And the Morvus has an insane Crit when he uses his ult lol should I try taking him out first?
If heās giving you the most trouble yes
@tall path what chapter are you currently on?
12-8
Yeah that switch isnāt doing me well imma play with it a little and get back with ya
Keep lucius, nemora, and belinda, you can use ankhira later as fodder for brutus and silvina as fodder for shemira. I think at this point saveas is still relevant so try to get him to 160. Keep fawkes, and if you get ira to leg+ you can feed her to nemora
Alright! Thanks I appreciate it!
No prob š
What about artifacts @steel moat would those make a difference depending on who has them?
I think so, which artifacts do you have?
I have DG, DE and DC
Ah ok, iād put duraās grace on brutus, duraās eye on arden for haste and vines, and duraās call on nemora so she can get her heal in faster
fk yeah i finally got nemora
Congrats!
Dude the dismal descent is such a bs peak of time
hey iām stuck on 8-36, any suggestions?
@warm ocean went in grabbed chests looked at stage went out finished adventure
We never saw me there again xD
@mossy narwhal can you show the stage please :)
@uneven parcel I can't get to 40% to say fuck it, so like it's stupid or the best path to take or anything
@warm ocean after trying ut out went on onfficial page it was written a decent into madness and I was like more than enough info for me xD
@pearl portal try esteilda/lucius instead of thane
@dry pilot saveas as carry arden tasi fwakes backline and athalia frontline or shimera as carry instead of saveas
@dry pilot enemy nemora charms your saveas and you're kinda done change saveas and tasi's positions
@dry pilot also maybe put arden on vedanās side so he can snare him, unless the other side is giving you more trouble
I think i need to borrow a brutus ack
Iām trying to charm arden but he snares me before i can do anything
try this, ignore that enemy but this is what I used, nemo will charm ogi or other nemo, arden will root kaz allowing your shemira to kill her, if yoru tasi can pull off an ult with shemira alive, you will have good chance to win
pretty nice to fight vs legendary heroes without single one
Ahh ok, iāll try that!
replace this hat girl with saveas
even if my saveas is not elite +?
yeah, he's a beast. just did it 2 hours ago and passed 20+ lvls
k thx for the tips
Welp kaz is killing shemira before i can do anything
Have two spots on resonating crystal open, who should I add?
shemira?
there will be runs where arden roots her and she doesnt crit too much
btw why can taz sometimes remove the snares from arden? am i missing something?
Been avoiding shemira cuz rankings say she isn't really good before 141
@inner vector so this?
will prolly buy Shemira tomorrow as well,
Gonna put Saveas, Brutus in the frontline and use Rowan/ Nemora / mehira in the backline, does that sound legit?
Iam on 6-28 anyone recommend what I should do other then keep waiting thanks
@tame vigil no, you are missing a faction boni. Go for brutus+ogi +nemora+arden+saevas
Works well till you start facing maulers all day, by then you should have lyca or tasi to replace ogi
hmm is frontline saveas good enough?
@lapis roost but is the faction bonus really worth it early on?
Iāll definitely give it a shot tho.
I am already facing mostly maulers in lvl 5-32 or sth, which is why Iām struggling
i used brutus/lucius together with saevas and in rare cases lyca as frontline till chap 14
I think iāll have to wait until shemira is 181 because even when kaz doesnāt crit lyca ends up killing her š
if saevas is your highest char, you should still be fine ,even if ogi dies.
Omg what a hero
@steel moat what about putting lyca in front of taz and shemira behind her? with brutus facing ogi?
Hmm letās see, my brutus is only legendary but heās worked in other stages
who does tasi banish? the rat?
Rat? She banishes kaz š
only thing what i don't understand is, why is arden top
i would do the same, but use him in the middle, so he can root the enemy arden
Ogi demolishes my left side aaaaa
I'd put arden bottom left
u need to either cc ogi with arden or nemo
Arden isnāt tanky enough to survive ogiās throw
rip, youll beat it for sure if u have arden L+
@silent wraith what do, stuck for a month
Eeeeeeee i would have to feed some ascended then but I donāt want to do that
Can u help? @silent wraith
one month 
sadly I haven't go there yet lol
I honestly have no idea how i got past that stage š @faint quest
Fully maxed arden is OP af
I'm sad :( that kaz is just wow...

@faint quest what is your struggle there? your setup is fine and should beat after some tries imo
The struggle is estrilda and mirael just demolish my backline and shemira gets destroyed no matter where I put her
Not sure whether I should red+ Belinda or red lucious
@faint quest I think I gave u my SS yesterday? it didnt work?
But ya ig rng is the only way to go ig
is isabella attacking your tasi?
@faint quest this is what you have to look forward to
If you already have 5 mythics go ahead with belinda (if you use her more) but iās go with lucius otherwise @rare burrow
I do have 5 but they are not a good combo
Well yea bro xD I know there's gonna be lots more stages like these @scenic knoll
Oh hell that stage is not ok šš
Go with lucius then XD so your other characters are more balanced in power
@steel moat
That moment when u realize ulmus is actually doing work

@faint quest shem behind brute and use nem to charm silvi
i think ulmus is underrated by the community anyways. Imo he can be pretty sick
Ok i think lucius would be a better option but maybe iām biased because i like him more š³ but then a lot of times only 5 mythics are necessary even if you donāt use them, they just serve the purpose of filling up the crystal and levelling other characters
At ascended he's a god when he gets off his ult
@faint quest https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA_RkRmgL3Gx9a5OS42PLKw/videos
follow my friend cheese, she updates every boss stage she encounters, theres a 16-36 one u can look at
Alright cool thx! @silent wraith
Not even fair lol
@faint quest so what I noticed from this stage is u need to kill mirael and belinda b4 they ult lol
Yeah with that one shemira ulted and killed them before they could do anything
@scenic knoll once I get shem 220, I will start the ch20 climb 
You can cancel their ults you know
then ice will come asking me for advice
There are many heroes that can interruptmid animation ennemies ult
So ig from looking at the vid it was all due to that Lycas dodge so I'll try to get her dodge up @silent wraith
Any tips for a better composition?
@faint quest shoot for 300+
Any help on 16-20? Pleaseeee.
Any idea what to focus on what character or what would be a good team
@golden spade
Tasi
Shemira
Nemora/Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Make sure tasi has the lowest defense out of all mages so that silvina gets baited
What I tried doing a couple times is that I have a borrowed nemora ascended at 165 so I would lure into Arden, and then shemira and tasi could both get enough for an ult but would also die soon after they woke up.
Ahh i see, have you tried using nemora as bait and then arden+lyca backline?
Whoops, edited my other message instead of posting a new one lmao.
@mellow copper Lucius, estrilda, nemora, arden, and belinda/mirael (I like mirael more before 160)
You can also overlevel saveas if you need a solo carry
Have you used brutus to try and beat it yet?
I did a little while ago, Iām like 40 mins from getting him to 161 so I should just wait but Iām impatient lol.
Haha itās probably worth the wait, do your friends/guildies have any leg+ tasi available for hire?
can someone whoās gotten past 14-38 help me out? :/
my shem/estrilda frontline and tasi/nemora/arden backline is getting destroyed
Ok thanks i dont have gear for estrilda yet mostly im runing lucius belinda athalia thoran and nemora and overlevel i need to make all the character each time a higher lvl right? And just for asking why not thoran ? @steel moat
The gear is why im using him as tank
@mellow copper aside from his tankiness and taint ability he doesnāt do too much for me T__T but itās personal preference, he absolutely destroys me in labyrinth so you can invest in him! For graveborn iād work on shemira over him though
@pale kettle what is your placement for your team?
Getting completely obliterated any ideas?
top to bottom backline - arden, tasi, nemora, top to bottom frontline - shemira, estrilda @steel moat
Ok so hes a labyrinth character il try your team now im at 8-16
@pale kettle
Nemora
Hogan
Saveas
Lucius
Athalia
Trying to charm the saveas XD
@pale kettle I remember beating the stage with a completely different formation, think it was
Nemora
Lucius
Tasi
Estrilda
Fawkes
Your setup should be working though D: itās a great setup and you have some really good heroes!
my levels arenāt bad and i know wilder v wilder isnāt the best, but even my graveborn lineup just gets destroyed immediately ;-;
Your placement is correct and everything š¤ maybe instead of nemora try lyca? Idk if itāll go even worse though š°
iāve swapped out almost ever wilder i have and iāve tried so many different formations at this point :/
Even when Saveas gets charmed I still can only manage to kill one of them if I'm lucky :c
@mellow copper thoranās taint ability works better the more you damage him, my team has real high damage output so he usually ends up killing one of my backline with that :(
Hmm @pale kettle maybe getting all your heroes over level 81 will help
I balanced out the levels and I'm only managing to kill 1 of them still, Lucius is 89 and can't get his ult off ;c
Do you or a friend have fawkes? Heās a great counter to brutus
I can't use mercs for 4 more stages, don't have Fawkes myself
Ahh š¦ who specifically is giving you the most trouble? Or what happens when you try to battle them?
Mostly the Brutus, whoever he's up against dies very quickly
Ah, have you tried
Nemora
Lucius
Saveas
Athalia
Hogan
You can switch up hogan and saveas postions
Yeah, when I put lucius in top lane he dies within 5 seconds though.. š¦
Oh no šwhat about switching hogan and luciusās positions in the formation i just sent?
That's what I'm trying now, Brutus is killing everything in my backline
Brutus gets his ult off no matter what, and whenever his ult goes off whatever's around him is dead guaranteed
no not always
Even when I overleveled Saveas to 100 Brutus got his ult off because of his invulnerability before dying
Is saveas a big problem? Maybe you could move nemora to brutusās side to charm him or something
Whoever I put the weaker heroes on just widdles it down to a 5v1
@pale kettle i think i know the problem- estrilda isnāt over 161 yet, that will give her a bit of a boost so she can do more and take more damage
When i did the stage i had estrilda over 161 so she made it through a good amount of time
iāll try getting her up there, sheās so squishy rn so that would make sense. thanks ā¤ļø
Brutus got 2 ults off this time lol
I also donāt know how she is geared and that may play a factor, i bought a bunch of mythic gear for her because iām an idiot š so she had that
@pale kettle how long until you can hire another mercenary? If fawkes was there brutus would not be a problem XD
I have to beat this boss and the next
Oh š¤ have you tried charming brutus yet and having athalia dive into him? You can also put hogan in front of brutus and have athalia take out saveas or something
Iāll give that a shot, it seems like Lucius gets no value wherever I put him
Try center back, heāll hopefully not die haha
Yeah Iām fairly sure I need to level before I can challenge it
Itās ok, youāll get there~
Yup hopefully Arcane Lab will get me there
@steel moat hey I've been trying what you told me i
But ira is killing shemira so fast
How about
Nemora
Seirus
Tasi
Lucius
Shemira
You can switch seirus and lucius positions, or switch seirus for lyca
Ok i will try
Should i do it ?
I would save the fodder for shemira in the future and swap out thoran for another tank like lucius for the time being, once you have shemira mythic+ you can start feeding everything else to thoran
Sorry I really like shemira š so iām biased
Stuck on this level any advice?
@steel moat it worked with lyca instead of seirus thanks ā¤ļø
@chilly drift if ur stuck in that, just get a saveas -shrug-
Yes saveas is very helpful in ch 9, also arden nemora and tasi
Oh definitely donāt XD but once you put him on resonating you should be good, is there any way you can borrow a tasi from mercenaries?
I cant use it this week but I'll do it next time because unless I get more dust I'll probably still be on this level
Nemora
Lucius
Arden
Gorvo/ulmus(?)
Saveas
Iām trying to keep factional bonus š¤
As an endgame team how's this sound, Lucius, estrilda, shemira, nemora, and nara
Iām definitely nowhere near endgame but i think aiming for a 2-3 faction bonus would be good, ie swapping out nemora on that team for a graveborn
@steel moat thanks I think I'm just too weak atm
I think for chapter 9 you need a strong tank that can survive all of vedan and isabellaās bs, i used legendary estrilda (120+)
Why do the mythic, team bounty quests seem to exclusively require a graveborn mythic hero? I swear, itās been more than 10 times in a row now. I know everyone and their mom have mythic Shemira since sheās overpowered as hell, but I donāt have any mthic graveborns, so this has been a bit frustrating for me.
Need some advice on 24-14 lineups! Please help! Any heroes, just lemme know.
Not sure if I'm just too underleveled, but I would like to get those faction scrolls today cause it's wilder day. If you can help it'd be very appreciated
@unreal solar erm.. Shem able to tank Brutus?
Cos I think it's more important to kill Vedan first with Shem?
Any team recommendations?
Any tips? Sorry if I send this again. I donāt believe the first one went through
Any tips are appreciated
Golus, Khasos and Brutus are left alive all at very low HP. Normally itās also only Thane and Shemira alive against them, but I can never win.
Need some general lineup help
Use Saveas
Hi, I just started playing a couple days ago, some help with a starting lineup would be appreciated, ty
@mental bobcat i think u should reset ur rat and put saveas there instead, rat is strong late i heard, but saveas is so good for a long time
Should i ascend ferael to legend or wait for shemira? Any suggestions pls?
and u can overlevel the saveas (lv saveas as much as u can until ur forced to lv the other guys)
Yea that's what I was thinking, rat boi is nice but I heard saveas is really good
@upper wraith i would wait just in case but im not a pro
Hmm š¤
@coral frigate i mean since I have so many fodders, I think I might do it?
I actually donāt know what to do š
yea true actually on second thought by th e time u need shemora u will have more heroes
Aight thx for the suggestions
since u can have saveas instead of shemora up to stage 16 i hear
Any Ideas?
I need to finish this stage today (to get Shemiraās staff tomorrow) I donāt usually play with lightbeares so idk what Iām missing there, I also got 2 extra slot in the resonating cristal
Stuck on 10-36 pls help ;-;
@coral frigate Iād say for u to put athalia against saveas, but if u managed with memora itās fine
ok thx
Should I use Khasos instead of Numisu?
Is it still worth to use saveas at this point?
@loud pasture No.
you need levels.
you cannot beat this stage as an underleveled party.
you need pure damage.
not to mention maulers are weak against them
Have 5 faction scrolls, should I prioritize Wilders or Lightbearers? Mainly looking for lucius, tasi, nemora, maybe Hendrick or lyca
Can someone pm me I need help with my lineup
Need help with Main Tower Floor 297. An Ascended level 288 Saveas is the most bullshit thing ever. Nearly one shots Lucius and Brutus.
Need some advice on 24-14 lineups! Please help! Any heroes, just lemme know.
General team advice? On world 8 right now, ty
@night token the best carry pre 160 is sitting on the bench right now? ;)
saveas ?
Should I ascend Nemora, Arden, or no one (yet)?
Hi all, I'm still early game but I just got shemira to legendary but I'm not sure if she's worth putting in or what would be my best bet for a team
Right now I run Brutus, Saveas, Khasos, Lyca, and Nemora
Any advice is appreciated š
@sick lodge pre 160, Sav. After 161, Shem. They are carries.. always overlevel them at least 20 to 40 levels ahead of the rest.
@sand rune only to L+ else stuck like Eorinn.
I think you can asced Arden to L+ 141. Do it imo. 3 roots OP
@night token ya Savaes. Sorry I forgot mentioned his name
Thanks @fierce kayak You've helped me again haha
Should I keep my team as same?
@sick lodge you could if your 2nd tank is working fine now
@fierce kayak Khasos dies way too fast, not sure who could fit in... he's pretty much jsut for the faction bonus
@sick lodge kho may be better middle back. Hogan/ Shem at L can tank for now I think
Thanks I'll try it out
@silent wraith thots on 18-26?
Help please? Vedan keeps barely killing saveas
have u tried Brutus saveas lyca nemora and Arden
@fierce kayak Arden is 141 in the Resonating Circle, so heās already putting down 3 roots. What youāre suggesting then is for me to only ascend if I can bring someone to L+, otherwise I can get stuck? Thanks!
I need Mauler team for faction towers help?
Who should use each of the artifacts?
@brittle summit
belinda -eye
lucius -drape
saveas -eye
estrilda -grace
which is your 5th hero?
Changes depending on the stage I'm playing. Usually is either Arden, Fawkes or Tasi.
arden -Call/Eye
tasi -Call
fawkes -call
blade to whoever is left without i guess
@sand rune yup. Prefreably unless
Need to break level cap
Or those heroes that can buy from store of really no choice
Canāt send a pic of my setup says itās too big š¤¦š»āāļø
Stuck on 11-33 please help
@pale kettle that right setup, but I have lyca mid
Brutus instead of hogan, Arden instead of kelthur or shemira
Need help cant win this one 18-40
Help with 10-36 please ;-;
try tasi, ulmus, nemora, eironn and saveas?
maybe swap tasi/nemora/eironn with lyca, and put nemora in front if u cant have eironn
Stuck on 11-16
need help thanks
Should i replace my Hogan with estrilda lyca or vedan
@near crane have you tried, Brutus pos 1, Shem pos2, tasi pos 3, Arden pos 4 and lyca pos 5? What should happen is you should root niru Arden and lyca and you should kill the. Niru first
Also I can get either an epic Nira Arden or ogi and idk which one to go for
@devout berry what you have looks best, but you could try lightbearers instead of wilders, or 4x mauler + tasi/flex etc
@tiny hedge keep hogan, the others are not good tanks. Also go for arden, aim to get his 3 roots skill
Okay. I'm trying to get a tank but I just haven't had much luck getting one.
@tiny hedge if there is really no other tank then I suppose you can use estrilda alongside hogan. Or if you have high level dps you can use them as semi tank
One moment lemme take a screenshot of my setup
I'm having trouble with this level like crazy. I get to the end where it's just saveas alive on both sides and he always outdamages mine and wins lol
@tiny hedge then try swapping athalia with that archer guy. Put hogan in front of brutus since he's a tank and maybe swap either the archer guy kr shemira with lyca/estrilda but preferably estrilda
That Brutus is crazy tho I gotta get me one of them
@tiny hedge brutus is crazy strong as last man standing but he's not exactly protecting anyone as a tank imo. Lucius is who you want as a tank
Rn I'd be happy with either. I'm kinda just using what I have, ya know? I got lucky that I got some really good units
Help pls, looks like impossible....
Ahh that's true, i was lucky to get lucius too at an event. Otherwise I wont even have a decent tank too @tiny hedge
Have yet to get shemira or another tasi. Which ones should I just abandon all hope with?
@ebon bone i mean you can buy shemira from labyrinth store tho
lmao, oh yeah that is a thing isnt it... rip. learned today after joining discord how good that hero is
@sick lodge try altering between shemira and arden at this early point, later on like 9 said after 161 replace saveas with arden and use shemira
@ebon bone u can stilll go with saveas for now tho
mirael later fed to lucius and ira to nemora/lyca
gotcha, sound slike a plan @grave flower ty for help
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@pale kettle don't remember what I use on that I think lucius instead brutus, but u can try too swap shemira and brutus, and arden instead lyca
Any ideas ? Farael is just broken :(
Would have charmed Farael but silvina jumps onto Nemora instantly and two shots it guess gotta wait more for Shem levels
Any advice for this one? 18-8
Could this work?
Having trouble creating a good team with the various elites I have. Not sure which to really focus on, so far just following the tier list and picking out the top 5. Is there a special synergy I should go for, or just take whatever is in top 5 and run as far as I can with it?
Current line-up, any suggestions or improvements?
Iām stuck here for awhile, canāt seem to beat niru
Ok, im new and need little help with the right direction what to build.
Any recommendations? Can buy all hereos from Lab and PvP shop.
What should I replace fareal with out of what I have that is elite? Any of these would work better?
@tiny hedge maybe lyca for fereal for now
Lyca? Okay
@west stratus thatās a nice starting point and probably fine for now. Your athaliaās gonna fall off soon likely because sheās hard to ascend. And shemira isnāt really good until 161 (after which sheās great). Iād ascend that Arden and slot him in for shemira (will give you a faction bonus too). Make sure you overlevel your sav (I.e. get him to 81 ASAP before leveling anyone else, then when everyone else catches up get him to 101)
Arden for Shemira? That's an interesting switch. Thanks a ton
@west stratus np. Iād pull wilder faction heroes and try to find some tasi and lyca copies to build along with nemora and Arden. You can use them once athalia gets left behind. Those four wilders, sav, Brutus, and Lucius in some combi are the core of most teams in the mid to mid-late game. After 161, shemira replaces sav. Arden stays viable in PvE well into the high teen stages
Any advice here for 18-8?
i just wanna progress faster any advice
@zinc wren try
nemora
brutus
arden
shemira
lyca
@gleaming pine dont use shemira yet, keep building her but try saveas brutus ulmus nemora arden
@zinc wren
Maybe
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca/tasi
Shemira
Arden
Root FL and maybe batguy and charm brutus it khasos
@grave flower thanks, will do
Any ideas? Iāve been stuck on 6-36 for days :/
I need help with this I've been running this team for quite a while now and am close to 9-20 any improvements?
Factional scrolls in GB or wilder? Im leaning towards GB tho
Yes get fodders for shemira
Yeah thats what i thought, will wait for tomorrow then
Any tips on how I can beat this stage?
Any suggestions to tackle this?
@untold rivet Working a bit on your saveas, and it'd make it a breeze, you lack damage imo
Is saveas one of my level ups or one of my crystal warriors
And thanks @turbid bolt
Saveas is the strongest damage dealer character pre-160, I'm suggesting him especially in your case because he'd be a perfect answer to that Ogi, but he's also good for basically everything. I think your current team lacks a physical damage dealer. Estrilda deals good damage but she might die fast, she's not really a tank
Ok so I should bring him off the crystal and get him leveled up. And to think I am 12 crystals short on my summons
@turbid bolt should she be in the back row then?
Stuck in Peaks,Ancient Ruins, low on health and heroes but close to grabbing another crystal chest. I have one vacant spot on my crystal: who should I add to help my regular and Peaks lineups? Choices include all the newly introduced heroes...
@untold rivet if you have a more resistant tank I'd switch her for someone else actually. Otherwise, put her on the side where she would take the least damage, she needs to survive long enough to use her charge, which deals very good damage and knocks down enemies on a straight line. In my experience she doesn't survive longer than that but it's usually enough (the initial stun on the opposite enemy, then the encouragement skill that helps her allies, then the charge)
Here is my current roster:
Does this help @turbid bolt
I thought of trying Mehira or Rowan, for example. Rowan might help heal my crew, or Mehira might make the enemy attack each other instead. Not well versed in either.
Brutus + saveas with wildvolk or with graveborn?
@untold rivet I'd use Hogan instead of Estrilda, he tanks longer. Also easy to ascend so you can get him to leg+ reasonably fast if you like him. As tank pre-160 among the 3 skills heroes I'd still say Golus is king because of his passive, but it can be annoying to focus on him as well as saveas since they're from the same faction
Eh idk why it wasnāt posting this shit
@untold rivet Hi mate, try to post all heroes too together with stage so that others can advise better.
I dunno all your heroes but Hogan should tank better than Estilda and Serius
Try:
Sav
Thogan or any tanks
Estilda
Hogan
Belind
Above your reference with your stage as I can't see them. Have to scroll up and down. š
Atalia and nemora can sub in and out depends on stage.
I have tried everything with all my higher levels and nothing works. And Hogan dies faster than estrilda right now.
@umbral badger i personally like thoran if i have hypercarry because he can revive himself infinitely as long as battle ends before he dies again unlucky with shem tho lol
@cobalt barn
There's an idea, and I do have an E copy as well. If I continue to be luckless with getting Shem I could use some GB fodder on him. Am saving for Shem with lab coins but only 21k so far.
Can anybody take a look at my heroes and tell me whether I should go with Brutus & saveas + Tasi, Nemora, Arden, or should I go Brutus & saveas + shemira, Grezhul and ferael?
@untold rivet estilda higher level than Hogan. So of cos. If both same level.. Hogan should be better.
Also.. overlevel carry.. not tank
Alternatively I could use my E+ Hogan, E Rowan and E+ Belinda once I get the free login reward Belinda
@tame vigil
I am not good with mehria so:
Try
Sav
Brutus
Nemora
Hogan
Atalia
Estrilda sacrifices resilience for speed and damage. Due to chronic continuing lack of Lucius (he, Kaz, and Shem are the ONLY heroes I have never pulled), I have had to frontline her since early game.
Iāll give that a shot then, thanks š
@umbral badger funny, i pulled all three of them š
@umbral badger you will get a lot of shemiras progressing so better save up dat fodder and in this event get faction scrolls and go for graveborns may get her
I have the trait Mythic Misfortune when summoning heroes. Last night I used 100 tavern coins for an elite LB summon. Hereis what I received...
Another one >_____<;
@umbral badger you think thats misfortune? imagine pulling elite and getting seirus -_-
Oh shit i just realized I can summon with tavern coins too, any recommendations on which faction to use my summon for?
@Pettro33#6141 I just pulled elite Vedan however it was a plain scroll so no loss.
@tame vigil depends who you need... but practically its either GB or Wilder
Tempted to try Rowan but in Peaks my team may already be too injured for an elite healer to save in time.
@sly sparrow this is my current lineup, Iām considering maulers or wildvolk mostly
@tame vigil ye id say wilders too
Alrighty, thanks š
cuz you got arden, nemora and tasi which is holy trio and if you get lyca then you got them perfect wilders š
Uh eironn, is he any good?
ah
Hey there. Any suggestions?
@tame vigil https://www.afkarena.net/eironn look at this and see if he can fit your team
I am working on LB and Maulers however my GB selection is rather good. Myfaave GB for entertainment is Nara because curb stomping enemy mages and healers that were safely tucked behind tanks iz hella funny
Lineup pos help mauler tower 60?
Nara is hella fun can agree... but requires good positioning
Can eironn frontline? Pulling them together seems great with Brutus..
YOINK
<STOMP!>
i think he can but im not sure
Nara like Estrilda positively shines as a third striker
When CC becomes lezz important than sniping enemy healer/CC/dps Nara and Estrilda work well
and whats good is that Nara's ult ignores all defends and invincibility effects
I have L Nara plus an E copy. She is a strong contender for my first M level GB
ye that could be amazing
Baden is OP AF for Wrizz and Soren but doesn't have staying power
@umbral badger heyo
Im stuck
@Pettro33#6141
Yes. Although I run GB and Mauler mixed teams, Nara is my most frequent "go to" GB. Enemy Angelo or Nemora making frontline too strong? Gimme her grappling hook anytime! Even if she's killed, keeping enemy agility based assassin too busy to take out my mage is also great. I love Fawkes but can't reliably target one enemy with his coffin ablity.
like i wish she would help me pass 9-20 but she doesnt help much there :/
Hi! Any advice for 17-28? Also i can accend hendric or Estrilda.
Lost count of how many times I have shut down OP enemy Silvina (boss and/or crazy ascension tier) using Nara.
i lost count on how many attempts i had on 9-20 xD
What should I change in my team build? And wich char should I focus? im stuck at this level
I am jonesing for a 2nd copy of Hendrik. I desperately need more tank/block and Hendrik is one of the best
That is why I blew 100 tavern coins on LB for elite faction pull, snd was so upset when I pulled Estrilda (I already have her at M, and have never pulled Lucius).
i got Lucius but super weak...especially at 9-20 he is always first dead
@tepid tendon work on Saveas and you're good
ugh i hate 9-20 so much
@Pettro33#6141 At my stage he is essential to my lineup. Borrowed him from Peaks camp and as murdering enemies until he was killed.
11-40 was where I was stuck for a week. Tried everything dozens of times and didn't last longer than thirty seconds. Then after patch borrowed Lucius (remember you get him at your level). All I did was substitute him nd leave my lineup unchanged.
One.
Attempt.
Victory.
It validated my tactics and gsmeplay, and underscored how with my roster I am disadvantaged without Lucius.
well he doesnt help me at all... i get wrecked and i cant kill a single enemy im helpless now
I'd trade you if I could! I have at least one copyof every hero in the game except three; too bad for me they're these three:
its okay i will suffer more and maybe it will come naturally...
TL;DR: FML š°
I complained bitterly to Lillith games not for a handout but because their algorithm needs to be tweaked to prevent even the remote possibility of what happened to me.
I wish i could say the same
Three of the most crucial heroes in the game, including the default hard carry for Level 160+
i barely have any good heroes... im desperate but game just hates me
Estrilda is mighty fine tho
Told 'em politely not to mistake my complaint for a little kid who didn't get a Brutus from two heart summons, because my experience resulted from hundreds of summons via every means. I also refuse to troll AFK Arena; my misfortuneis singular and very very different from the norm. It's a great game and I will continue - in my unique case I won't buy any more gift packs because RNGesus mocks me š¤
yea same here im just sad
Whats 9-20 look like?
its hell
Im stuck at 9-19 lol
I'm mature enough to see the big picture in that had Lillith said "Sorry about that; here: have a couple Shems/Lucius on the house" and it got out on social media the effect would be like a casino saying "Sorry you gambled away your house and life savings; here's your money back."
How to fix up my lineup?
@pale kettle from your current heroes, try this lineup
Estrilda
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Athalia
Switch Silvina and Estrilda positions
Any opionions or improvements?
Yeah other than that itās actually pretty good
Serius sucks pretty hard so I wouldn't recommend him on any mode, PvP nor PvE
Alright, i made this team based on prior experiences from other similar games, just wanted to confirm with longer time players
Best Formation for wrizz/Soren?
Suggestions to beat this level?
Try changing Lyca for Arden, if it doesn't work, put Saveas on Backline (where he should be) and switch Lyca for a tank like that Hendrick
@lament birch try with Brutus & Vaden Frontline and Mirael, Raine and Belinda Backline
Or use Shemira instead of Vaden, just so u have a lot os DPS
Suggestions on how to beat this level
@pale kettle first of all I'd suggest you to only focus on your top 5 heroes and put the rest on crystal. You could totally have heroes with higher level that way
reset shemira, belinda, brutus, golus, archer girl, mirael, bear man, tasi
eh not worth it for the third line I guess
also, you have 3 copies of belinda (one purple+ and one purple), only focus on the higher ascension one. So reset your purple one and put your purple+ as "main" in the crystal
Tips for lineup, 17-28zz
Any help?
Help with this one pls
I have an ezizh and a mehira are either worth using
Hello any advice for 13-36 ?
you tried swapping lucius and saveas? so he wont get cc''ed
141?
nah 121
Any lineup suggestions?
Any help with lineup please? 8-40
wait until you get to 9-20
try replacing raine with brutus, and nemora with belinda @versed patrol
@pale kettle thank you, had to reshuffle formation but worked š
Glad I could help!
Been stuck for days on 11-21 any ideas or just wait until I level up some more heroes
Need help too :/
@ancient meadow you need Brutus 181+ and full lvl 1 allies
@sly sparrow does your lucius die quick or no
well he does kinda survive but its not for long.... but before it was worser cuz he was at front against Niru but that was a mistake so i switched them now its better but still doesnt survive much long
Need help on this level
This is not fair lol any ideas?
try sav arden athila and brutus kaz front maybe @sly sparrow
@sly sparrow Run kaz instead of lucius and silviana instead of mirael.
Hey guys any help here?
@peak arch any ideas for me?
@indigo jolt nope still lost
@scenic knoll I would switch Arden and Shemira
@brisk tapir thanks for advice
@peak arch my arden is barely lvl 120... he isnt strong enough
Any ideas for me?
@sly sparrow Try
Sav
Brutus
Athalia/Arden
Silv
Kaz
@full vigil
@atomic nebula maybe put nira in the middle back so she pulls ankhira to killer her faster
@sly sparrow thats more than enough just gotta try some times till he get a good root i ve done it with arden like 110 i think
gz haha which lineup did you use now? @sly sparrow
I need help and Iām a girl. Please respond....
@peak arch yours.... i didnt thought arden was so good damn lord @full vigil also welcome girl
My bad that was an old screen shot now I am here
ye he is very good if you get some good roots some times you just gotta try multiple times
well im happy i passed it thank goodness
@full vigil show heroes :p
@peak arch
Hey how can you help me here
My soren line up is currently, shemira, lucius, estrida, belinda, and silvina. What can I replace silvina with at lvl 180?
@pale kettle you able to use meta team?
Else nemora middle back to charm fereal. Keep trying for nemora charm fereal it works.
@west ironwhay can you make
@pale kettle hope it helps. G luck
@fierce kayak already tried the nemora charms only grezhul
@west iron you can use a atalia
@pale kettle charm fareal not others
I used athalia but when soren charms shemira, she kills the whole team
@west iron
@fierce kayak
@full vigil try athila belind arden bot and brutus luc front
lol i was so excited i was gonna move so further but nope now im stuck at 9-23 š
@pale kettle nope. From list is 1 to 5.
Lyca
Shem
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
My numisu isn't that strong though, his totem may get destroyed easily
Switch Estrida with fawkes or the pink girl
@atomic nebula who is killing your team? try pulling that hero to your backline with nira
@pale kettle keep trying. Take some tries and rng I think. G luck.
Saveass is killing everybody
@west iron Switch Estrida with fawkes or the pink girl
Estrida gives energy and buffs att of whole team though
@atomic nebula try this lineup
nira
shemira
saveas
athalia
tasi
@peak arch doesnāt seem to work either. Think I just need to level up some of my heroes
cleared mauler tower 60
@obtuse void use silvina. there is 2 lightbearers enemies at the back
Is her being epic+ enough? @dark tundra
Doesn't matter u just need some distraction anyways
I was saving graveborn stuff to raise shemira someday...
I still don't understand how to prepare for these later ascensions.
Use brutus saveas in the front and arden, tasi,nemora in the back @forest tundra try to get saveas as high lvl as possible with good gear for Dodge
Silvina isn't working, but the team is doing better than before. I think I'll try over and over and hope it works. @dark tundrathanks
@dark tundra Yasss. Thanks.
Hey, any ideas?š¤·āāļø
@obtuse void nice
Should I continue to use these top 5? Just new player... wasnāt sure if I should drop Athalia as sheās not like purple upgraded (donāt know the terms yet)... pm me or ping me if you can offer any advice. Thank you for any help
@fierce kayak it's not working I get to nuru and ferael and niru alts and kills 4 of my heros leaving a brutus
@pale kettle erm.. your Shem full M gear?
@fierce kayak no bish I'm not that good
Any tips?
@inner vector why try pump your saveas till 100 then full packs of mauler or + athalia. Maybe your saveas can overpower enemies
@fierce kayak
arden is weak until 101lvl+ i guess, wanna replace him with athalia
@dark tundra any general tactic to deal with a saveas placed like this? He chunks 35-40% of my Lucius' HP in one hit....
General tactics against Saveas.
@pale kettle ic. Mine should be full M gear at this stage... I think.. I can't recall..
And that centaur guy will do his own fucking bullshit. And they're very often paired together and a pain in the ass...
@obtuse void pump saveas till maxed. while 121+ others that might help and 3 tanks will help to shield saveas. It doesn't help then need power for saveas so do full maulers or 4 maulers +athalia
@pale kettle complete all 40 floors at faction tower gives M gear fyi
@fierce kayak I'm only on 11 21 1 and 11
@pale kettle ic.. then maybe still lack of levels and power.
@fierce kayak
@pale kettle erm.. keep trying.. Nemora mid back works for most ppl so far
Just don't use Tasi. Tasi will banish Fereal and nemora can't charm him
@fierce kayak she's only charming grezhul for some reason
No matter where I put her and I don't even have a tasi
@pale kettle u have a weak shemira as I am before. Why try using estrilda there not Brutus. There is a buff skill in estrilda maybe that might help
@dark tundrai ud estrilda as food
Goodjob
But hey I got my mythic lucuis I made him l with estrilda
And + look a lvl diff your guys res heros are 160
That's nice. Then try 4 wilders lyca being a tank . Shem need power.
I now at this stage chap 17.. Nemora charm fereal still works here. And my tasi died. So it's 4v5
She's only charming grezhul
If ferael is center back you have to put nemora center back to charm him
- my nemora and lyca suck at the momment
@pale kettle you can ask @Nicky... think he uses slightly different from mine. Like a light team maybe
Ic.. I dunno if nemora at E makes a dff in charm
Pump Shem to 180. Look at my team there 180 Shem and 148 only wilders. Shem is needs love. give her . @pale kettle
@fierce kayak she sucked at 180 brutus is better
What level does nemoraās charm unlock all enemy abilities excluding ultimates? It might be 141
@wise merlin Nicky.. can help @pale kettle on 15-40? Cos think you use different line-up as mine?
@pale kettle Shem sucks? A lot of them pump Shem.. Brutus and Wilders only 160 and they reach chap 20 I think :)
Stuck... Again. š Any ideas?
No my shem is my carrie but so is brutus
So is lucuis and fawkes I only using l belinda becuase of her atk buff she can g8ve to brutus
@wanton oxide
Nemora
Saveas
Arden
Brutus
Lyca/Tasi
@pale kettle u wanna post our ful roster and stage again? Think Nicky trying to advise here
@pale kettle I've put Nemora instead of Tasi and kept Arden in the backline, it eventually worked out for me.
It'll work only if :
-
your Shemira has silenced enemy Shemira
-
Your Nemora charmed enemy Ferael
-
Enemy Ferael terrorized himself
And 4) Your Shemira and Lyca have both ults up so you can manipulate both ulties so that Shemira's ult will do continuous damage to enemies while they're frozen due to Lyca's ultimate clocking up.
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
@wise merlin guess I'm fucked then becuase shemira does silence enmy shem nemora dosent charm ferael and lyca gets one shotted
Nemora charm works just like Tasi's teleport. Plain RNG, but her options are much lesser.
She will either charm Grezhul, Niru, or Ferael.
She can charm Ferael, make it so Everytime she doesn't, just re-try.
@pale kettle
Also, gear Lyca up a little, make sure she has enough durability
Obviously you'd want your best gear on your formation. ^^
Thanks @steel moat ! Took some RNG but that worked great š
Yay :D glad to help!
8-24 please help
Any tips?
@cloud wadi put eye of dura on arden, he should root the other arden and you should be good
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542683819090771968/601802582335422465/image0.png Any help for 17-40? .-.
should i get rid of my skreg to get my brutus to mythic tier?
Hey, any idea for 10-36 please ?
what should i do moving forward
@humble zenith
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Make sure tasi has lower defense than arden so silvina gets baited away from him
@turbid fern
Tasi
Hendrik
Arden
Estrilda
Nemora
Hopefully arden should root vedan and saveas should get charmed by nemora
@pale kettle you can start investing in saveas and overleveling him as a solo carry, and arden for his crowd control. Keep leveling mirael, hogan, and lucius, although hogan falls off around chapter 9. Angelo and morvus donāt do much in my opinion so you can fodder them to one of your other lightbearers
@pale kettle itās generally a good rule of thumb to not fodder any ascended tier heroes š even though brutus is really good iād wait for another leg+ to fodder
Help me out boys
Build Brutus to Leg first or Shemira to Leg+?
L+ Shem i think
shem
for tavern tokens should i aim for an extra copy of nemora/lyca to get elite + or brutus but he's already legendary
The top two enemies are too tanky and if I try to put Lucius up top...
The bottom tank gets RIPPED apart in 2 throws by saveas.
@hoary marten
Lyca
Hogan
Arden
Brutus
Tasi (put her on resonating crystal and make sure she has lower def. than arden)
@weary socket
Arden
Tasi/lyca
Lyca/tasi
Brutus
Saveas
Wow it actually worked, thanksā¼
@obtuse void try this:
Saveas
Estrilda/Lucius
Fawkes
Estrilda/Lucius
Nemora
Ooh nice, congrats!
@steel moat Holy fking shit

Did you do it?
@steel moat for tavern tokens should i aim for an extra copy of nemora/lyca to get elite + or brutus but he's already legendary or something else
Uhh iād go with wilders since brutus is already legendary @fossil shale
@steel moat Thank you for the input I will test it out tomorrow
ok thanks
Wow haha nice! Fawkes really does the trick
Hey guys, so for the past day I've been pushing my general adventure lvl area. I've made it from the beginning of area 8 to 9-20, but I get completely obliterated on 9-20.
Sounds normal tbh
ye thats a big wall in early game, but dont worry eventually you will find a loophole around it š trust me i was stuck there for a long time
This is where I am rn
9-20 is one of the most infamous stages in the game, but with lots of heavy crowd control (arden, nemora, tasi) and a good tank and solo carry (saveas) youāll get there!
Man, I was stuck 9-20 for a while too
Just trying to pass it go get to the event mainly tbh
Ironically, I never remember being stuck there
i legit was surprised how fast i beat it when i had the right matchup
Is there any way for me to beat it with what I have?
@lusty cipher
Nemora
Lucius
Lyca
Brutus (put him on resonating)
Arden(put him on resonating)
Yeah that sounds good, give it a try
Meanwhile me in 16-40 
i know one more wall in chapter 9 is the last matchup (9-40) but i think its doable too
Shem keeps getting obliterated and i canāt do anything about it
Show setup?
If you can pass 9-20 9-40 shouldnāt be too big a problem
@steel moat i mean i did but my matchup was hella weird haha
Oh yeah, if you had Brutus Aās tank instead, youād fair a lot better. Does your Arden have eye?
Yeah T___T but it doesnāt work out
is it ok i use dura's eye on saveas?
Ohh haha your name says 9-23 so i thought you hadnāt beaten it yet
Yep, that sounds good
Thanks, I'll try that line up
Yeah thatās a bit rough, if you can get Shem M+ then 181, then maybe
I... Think it's time to call it a day.
What's the point of putting people on the resonating crystal aside from lvling them up?
Does it change stats at all?
It raises their level to match your average level,
You can level past their ascension allowed lvl.
I thought it was only to match the lowest lvl hero?
Yeah, thatās what their average is
5th highest level hero
@steel moat Thank you for the help! I swapped out Brutus for Ulmus and finally beat the level!
That's what I meant*
Anyways, off to test that line up
Ive run into another dilemma
Imagine... If the game wanted you to lvl each Chara individually

Ahh great to hear! @hoary marten
@weary socket try the setup but with brutus and saveas on ogi side and lyca and tasi on niruās side
@weary socket put your lyca behind Brutus? See if she can kill niru,or have saveas frontline and try kill ogi
@obtuse void maybe you can test this another day XD but try switching Saveas and fawkes positions, fawkes abate should slow estrilda a fair bit, also put nemora on enemy saveasās side to charm him
Lucius gets chunked soooo fast. I have to restart 5-6 times to see him survive once.
Thanks for the help @steel moat, I will try it later or tomorrow. Or I think I will ascend Fawkes, he's in one of the shops and I have a spare
No problem, yeah lucius is quite fragile sometimes
hope you can find a setup that works out for you!
Am I in the right channel to ask for team comp advice?
Did not work sadly
@nocturne bronze yep!
@lusty cipher agh
do you have any tasis available to borrow from a friend?
Tasis?
This was my 9-20 setup for reference
Yeah, from the new mercernary section
Borrow? The hell?
Thereās a new feature that lets you borrow heroes from friends and guild mates for 1 stage
This hero?
Yep! Also you can try switching lyca and nemoraās positions in your current setup to try and charm enemy nemora
I've only started playing 2-3 days ago so admittedly I just leveled whatever elites came my way first. I don't know anything about synergy. I'm willing to reset any heroes if need be. What should I use as my lineup and what heroes what I try to focus on either ascending and/or procuring?
@steel moat
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
Shemria
Arden
Lyca have to push ogi back, nemora charm top to buy time.
Tasi must survive to ulti with Shem.
The rest leave it to RNG.
I pass with this setup. G luck
Thanks! Iāll try that
Guys, I need help 
Saveas isn't doing his job as well anymore. I'm currently stuck on 6-4 iirc
@nocturne bronze hogan saveas and mirael will be great for a starter team, you can try to level and ascend saveas as much as possible so he can solo carry. Other characters to invest in are arden and tasi for crowd control, shemira for a solo carry past level 161, and estrilda for tanking/damage
@pale kettle what happens when you try to battle them? Who gives you the most trouble?
Thanks for the advice!
Np, and good luck!
Do I sack arden for myth tasi?
Oh no š arden is really good even late game, keep him
Who should I ascend to legendary
What do you guys think about sacrificing arden to get nemora to mythic and then using just elite+ arden?
@fossil shale probably arden, but i wouldnāt fodder any of those elites except ira
@split gull Itās best to have arden at at least legendary, Iām currently suffering because he isnāt high tier enough š
What's on 16-40 that is killing arden?
@split gull @steel moat
Does it mean it's worth xD?
Hey ! I dont know what to do pls help me :'(
It's up to u to judge. I have e+ tasi at chap20
@dark tundra my brutus is only legendary and shemira at lvl 180 so I donāt know how well that will work š
Can you guys help me get a good lineup i gust got shemyra 161 but idk a good comp for her
if i do this then my team will be e+ arden 160, lyca l+ 160, nemora mythic 160, 180 ascended shemira and mythic 160 brutus
If arden is in the way of ogi or anyone who can hit backline he dies really easily at just e+
@mighty summit
Nemora
Brutus
Fawkes
Lyca(?)
Tasi
@steel moat I DID IT. I just got a legendary Armor for Lucius and enhanced it a bit and he survived every time for a few tries till I finally got it....
I never spent my guild tokens coz I was waiting for Red equipment in shop.
Ahhh great job!
How much do red equips in guild store cost when they show up?
About 30k š³
mythic eq is pain in the butt
Ok, I have 66k left.... Guess I'll try spending this for legendary equips when I'm in a pinch
@obtuse void at what chapter are you?
11-33
@obtuse void not saveas ? I thought he was a god :'(
you are so close to get mythic i would suggest to just wait for it ;v
@mighty summit sorry š° i was trying to keep faction bonus
You can also try that setup but with saveas instead of lyca
Can anyone help me ouČ?
Okay. So 12-2 is actually Red equips in guild shop?

@obtuse void yup
@pale kettle
Shemira and lucius/brutus front, nemora arden and tasi/lyca back
@obtuse void mythic equipment is just too strong, gives such a huge boost
It really does XD one piece can make a massive difference in whether you win or not
Yeah, i wish it dropped with a higher chance too xD
The gold needed per enhance... Woww... I'm broke from buying daily 500 essence already.. it hurts 
Play some arena to get that sweet gold xD
Gold stacks up pretty quickly haha, esp. from peaks of time + kingās tower. Iām sitting at 11m with nothing to do haha
I spent 16m yesterday cause got mythic armor for shemira with buffs for graveborn xD
Ooh I need to do those. I have the first 3 artefacts I think.
I still have not done viper's marsh ;v
Iām on dismal descent and itās destroying me >.<
My problem is that viper's marsh requires preferably 2 or 3 teams
and all i have is one strong team ;v
I have a full lightbearer team and then the works with shemira nemora etc. i changed between them and sacrificed my lightbearer team to kill off boss grezhul and then took care of boss thoran alone with my shemira team
Any recommendations about anything?
@pale kettle
Lyca
Saveas
Nemora
Hogan
Arden
You may need to get saveas and hogan above 121 š¤
Need dust
Ahh ok, the setup I suggested might work š¤ iām not sure if it will but itās worth a shot XD having a tasi would be ideal in this
Need numisu and morvus to finish library sadly
Pog
š„ Mage ult used to wipe team in this one next level now... But she fired her big ult on horsegirl who was doing her ult on something on other side of screen. My team lives

So much trial and error today. I play this game for 10-20mins max usually... Today I've been playing for quite a while ..
Any ideas , pls .Stuck on this lvl 6 day š¦
Same š sometimes i go on stage clearing rampages until i hit a stage like 16-40 and canāt do more
You beat 11-40 right?
@steel moat close to shemira 181 yet?
I still need 1 more elite vedan aaaaa
youre getting there
@grizzled galleon try
Lyca
Shemira
Arden
Lucius
Nemora
11-36 now...
11-35 had a fire mage.
Damn.. I was thinking 11-36 was last level of chapter. My hopes and dreams. 
Haha I really hope so š³
11-40 also has mirael but i used fawkes to counter her
Any tips? This ones killing me
@cloud wadi iām on the same stage ack, you have a better setup than me though š³
@obtuse void try switching fawkes and saveas positions so fawkes abates estrilda
You can also mess around with switching lucius and estrilda so estrilda can take out that row of maulers
Lucius is getting chonked by saveas again... Wtf man, I just gave you a legendary Armor smh
Lmao š switch him with estrilda and see what happens
@brisk tapir i donāt think Iām exactly qualified to help but try adding in nemora and lyca and putting nemora center back so she can charm arden
Noooooo... Timer please.
Oh nooooo T____T i hate the timer so much
Saveas just doesn't die... Even though he punches himself with every attack.
@steel moat 23 itās work , thank you
Great! Good work :D
iām so stick lol
Do shields stack? @steel moat if I give Lucius the first artefact does he get both shields on ult?
Dude. Same level. @coral frigate
@coral frigate do you have nemora? If not try this
Saveas
Lucius
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
@obtuse void yep they do!
yes i have nemora
itās just i stopped using her to beat 11-35 because pixy worked on that lv instead
Ahh then do
Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Nemora hopefully will charm saveas and he will fk up khasos quite a bit
ok illl try it š
I know it doesnāt have faction bonus š° but itās the best team i can think of atm
dura call to nemora elite or lucius legendary (the energy recovery thing)
Iād say lucius
@steel moat but on this lvl , it doesnt works:D
@grizzled galleon
Nemora
Brutus(?)
Arden
Shemira
Fawkes
Fawkes will lock shemira and abate estrilda (slows her energy regen)
That looks like a pretty good setup for you, i have both lucius and nemora so if you could i would put lucius in your frontline
Is this ok? 9-24
Swap saveas and miraelās positions so that her ulti hits everyone and saveas can hit ogi
Any recommended team with these character (using Lucius, Hogan, Belinda, Nemora and arden atm)
It doesnt work i get completely obliterated
Can anyone help me on who to focus on?
@dim nymph your current setup is really good! You could also do lucius/saveas front, nemora tasi and arden back
@sly sparrow what happens when you battle them? Also can you send a full hero list?
@mighty wing Saveas, overlevel him as a solo carry. Also estrilda if youāre using her as your main tank
I did send it... @steel moat
@steel moat 1vs1 lose ahahahah
Oh sorry š³
@steel moat do you mean i should do like all my other chars lvl 80 then make him as high lvl as i can?
Lol its okay
Hey, I'm back. I just got done with some other stuff IRL and wasn't able to finish getting advice for 9-20. I have all 3 mercenary slots availible to use if that's any help. This setup didn't work, was told to use another hero instead
my team right now is Saveas Shemira Ira Estrilda and Tasi
@sly sparrow How about
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Athalia
Arden
@mighty wing
Yep! Level him first to his max level, then level estrilda
After both of them focus on your best support (probably tasi or arden in your case)
is my line up good? or should i change it up?
and do baseline of like lvl what? 60 or 80 for my other chars?
Those are the mercenaries I can ask for, which ones should I get?
The centaur god cheats with timers too

Baseline of at least level 80 for now, but after your saveas is at max level focus on getting over 100
@steel moat nope still didnt work... only one who i killed was niru
@lusty cipher definitely tasi in your case
Ahhh @obtuse void golus is such a pain in the ass
@sly sparrow who is silvina targeting?
Sadly can't request tasi, is helping someone else rn.
Is there anyone I can add to request tasi from?
Nemora now... earlier it was mirael
Oh T___T leveling may also be an issue, i had all of my heroes around 120 when i beat it
Yeah lol. Lucius and Belinda have carried me here mostly
@sly sparrow having a tasi would be ideal in your case too so that you could bait silvina with her
I dont have her... maybe i can try requesting her
@lusty cipher unfortunately belinda/Lucius arenāt so great against graveborn š i had to change to a 3 wilder setup for ch 9
Can I add anyone for tasi?
@sly sparrow if you request her try
Nemora
Brutus/Saveas
Arden
Brutus/Saveas
Tasi
Make sure tasi has the lowest def. out of all the mages though, you may have to hire a lower level one too
I hope i will get her tho
Should I move my characters anywhere?
@lusty cipher sorry my tasi is currently being borrowed š
@grizzled galleon iām sure you can do it! Just pray rng is nice to you XD
@mighty wing
Saveas
Estrilda
Tasi
Shemira/Athalia
Ira
Another question, something I might be able to do to give my heroes a bit more power
thank you š
Fill out your library, switch your best gear onto whatever 5 heroes you are using, put artifacts on your heroes š¤ I donāt know if thereās more
Few questions, Can i farm artifacts if i completed it 100%?, Should i start saving gems for something or can i keep spending them on chars?
@mighty wing iām not so sure what you mean for the artifact bit XD
But yep, save your gems for summons exclusively
@oak mountain
Can i see what heroes you have? It looks like you have quite a few lightbearers but idk who they are
Peaks of time @steel moat
@steel moat oh also who do you think i should put my artifacts on? I got dura grace and eye
getting demolished on 8-20 š¦
@mighty wing Try to complete peaks of time stages whenever possible, sometimes you might not be able to get past stages when you first unlock them but youāll get there!
@sly sparrow Grace goes on your main tank, eye goes on either your dps or arden š
@oak mountain you may need to put some of your lightbearer to use haha, like hogan and belinda
@pale kettle can you send a pic of your current lineup for that stage?
Sorry but does anyone have a numisu L+ if u can dm me Iād appreciate it, it could help me beat this lvl
codrelai good job answering all questions
Sorry I donāt have numisu š
Thank you
iām trying haha
I butchered your name lol sorry
I can do secrets of the forest, but got complete obliterated the first time I tried it.
Itās ok 
Yeah secrets of the forest is really difficult, the thing with peaks of time is that you may have to progress a few chapters from the chapter where you initially unlocked the peaks of time stage to be able to beat it
Who to have in GB wishlist?
@torpid stirrup probably shemira (for extra copies to get you to ascended with stars) baden, farael, kelthur, and nara (i like her since she can counter arden and other annoying backline characters) This is just my opinion though 
Sure
Can somebody help me to create The best team from this?
@steel moat i have shemira fareal, but no copies of the rest, so idk if i should have the rest on the list?
@winter burrow your main 5 actually makes a pretty good team! I do prefer mirael over belinda (at least before 160) so your team would end up looking like
Lucius (backlining him since heās only elite)
Estrilda
Belinda/Mirael
Brutus
Saveas
@torpid stirrup alternatively you could put legendary characters like silvina and niru as fodder 
@pale kettle
Nemora
Lucius
Tasi
Hogan
Arden
Feel free to switch around your frontlines
Saveas gets essentially 1 bursted
Ahh, iāll edit the formation again
Actually @pale kettle š¤ how about
Nemora
Tasi
Saveas
Hogan
Arden
Iāve frontlined tasi before and itās worked out XD
@steel moat okey thanks ^^
iāll give it a shot haha
You may need to level your saveas more so that he can sustain himself better
Any help with 9-38? I've tried so many combinations and just can't get it.
@steel moat one more thing... should i use faction scrolls on wilders or GB?
Best lineup?
@sly sparrow I think wilders since you really only need shemira from gb but you want nemora tasi and lyca from wilder
@frigid spruce
Tasi
Saveas/Lucius
Arden
Saveas/Lucius
Nemora
Make sure tasi has the lower def than nemora and arden so silvina goes for her, hopefully nemora should charm arden
Okay tysm
Welp 4 greens and blue ira... i guess i shouldnt complain since i got 2 purples from last 10x summon
@steel moat so no belinda? would i reset her then and put levels into someone else?
Np!
@Zero.WnD#9122 i think estrilda and brutus front, belinda fawkes and nemora/arden back
@frigid spruce if you can i would get saveas to legendary and 121+, belinda is weak against graveborn so she wonāt do much in these stages unfortunately:(
i dont have the fodder to get Sav to L, reason i've been using her as my carry
I wanted to put in Lucius but Idk where
Iām not sure how well khasos works since i never use him š³ but you can replace nemora for him if you want a lightbearer/mauler team
@frigid spruce you could try putting belinda on ogiās side instead of saveas but she canāt sustain herself so I donāt know how well that will work
Iād replace ulmus with lucius since wilders are weak against maulers and lightbearer are strong against them @ebon heart
Ty
hot dam that did it
Belinda tanks like a beast, better then lucius at her level lol
Oh I severely underestimated her XD nice job!
Is Raine good?
Sheās good as support combined with belinda, it makes her ultimate devastating
i really like her with belinda, that's my goto team. usually get 3-4 nukes off and Bel solos the team
@mighty wing for guild raid vs wrizz she is really strong
I posted a pic of my team above, i have Belinda and i just got this girl
Is this guy any good?
Yep, you could switch to a 3 lb team with her belinda and estrilda, probably then with saveas and your next best character @mighty wing
@ebon heart yes but only past 141 when he can sustain himself
So, It would be something like Saveas, Estrilda, Belinda, Raine and i have : Legendary IRA, then Shemira+, Tasi
@steel moat I'm getting demolished by the legendary cat lady. Sorry for the late response/ping too. I was at work lmao
Ahh, you can try putting athalia in the center back to try and take her out, or nemora in the center to charm her
Mythic fawkes or Belinda first?
Who do you use more? Iād probably mythic belinda since fawkes is more focused on utility than level
Stuck here at 12-24, does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? š
Ok, I'll try that. Thanks, Cordelia
Np!
@gloomy haven
Tasi (silvina bait)
Brutus/Grezhul
Arden (should root vedan)
~~ Saveas~~
Nemora (should charm saveas)
Make sure tasi has lower def than arden and nemora
(Ignore this iām dumb)
@gloomy haven
Fwakes
Thane
Belinda
Grezhul/saveas
Saveas/nemora
@steel moat there is no silvina in enemy team :p
Oh shit sorry iām blind š³
Iām going crazy from seeing all these stages so i just assume each stage has silvina š
Good evening š¤ any suggestions to ascend?
Thanks you two, š Iāll give it a go and hope for the victory! Iāve been trying to ascend Arden more but just when I start doing so he stops dropping for me š
@pale kettle probably wait until you have another L+ so you can make Lucius ascended
In fact, you're just one rare morvus or mirael away š§š§
Yes think so too maybe I get it in next pull
Whatās the best way to figure who needs what artifact?
I only have three, Grace Eye and Call
@gloomy haven
Grace goes on frontline units or those who synergies well with it(nemora/saveas)
Eye goes on units with high crit 20%+ at least and make their dps spike higher, saveas/lyca/kaz,etc. Use it well
Call used on u its you want to ult early example tasi/shimera backline/nemora if you really need her heal,etc
Welp, got to 9-28 haha... is this doable?
I wanna ask a couple of questions, 1 how is this lineup, 2 If I were to replace Ira with another ranged person who should I go for, I feel her ability isn't very good
you guys think this is my best lineup for now?
Upgrade your Belinda using Belinda, mireal, and hogan, and then use the other elite + Belinda to make her legendary+ @silk imp
@sly sparrow do
Fawkes/saveas
Brutus/Lucius
Belinda
Brutus/Lucius
Fawkes/saveas
That carried me all the way to chapter 14-15
@coral kettle would need to see your hero collection my friend, post that and I can give some tips, they may not be "top tier player" tips, but I can help you a bit, I'm in chapter 17
@warm ocean i cant do that my fawkes is weak
@sly sparrow my fawkes was elite until chapter 13 so he's not since yours is elite + , just put some decent gear on him, that's what I used till chapter 15
But he is weak in general... no dmg or anything
It's about his utility, he locks away the strongest atk rating character, and his ult removes all buffs and removes shields (Lucius ult, Brutus can't die shield)
He doesn't pack a punch like saveas does, but his utility makes up for it like Arden's 3 man root)
Fine i will put him in better gear
I mean I'm just telling you what I did, you don't have too, but I had elite Lucius, elite+ Brutus, elite Fawkes, L+ saveas and L+ Belinda up to chapter 14-15
Hey y'all, I'm new to the server and was wondering if I could get some help/pointers for a stage I'm stuck on. I have a screenshot of my current lineup if it helps
@stable robin post the stage and hero's you got and I can try my best š
It's stage 3-16 I just started playing a few nights ago here's my current lineup
The sheep thing is making things super difficult for me lol
@stable robin put the fire mage (mireal) in the middle so her ult does max damage, and put vurk (rat dude, at the top and then swap hogan (big armor dude) and saveas (spear dog) and try that and tell me if it works
I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
@coral kettle try doing
Ira (bow girl)
Brutus (big fuck off lion)
Arden (old looking guy, level him instead of Angelo the music guy)
Athelia (angel girl
Saveas (spear dog)
@stable robin Let me know how it works š
Soon your library will look like this or better
@warm ocean nope, did better than before though so I think I probably just need to level them more and/or wait for better gear
@stable robin you only need to level 5 people because later you get the place called the "resonating crystal" which allows you to bump characters to the lowest level between the 5 you have (EX: say 4 are lvl 100 but 1 is lvl 95 everyone else you put in the crystal will be 95) so you can use that extra experience on the 5 you are gonna use
If you would like you can add me in game (name is the same as discord) and I can help you out or more in the game if ya like
Ok, thank you! @warm ocean
Swap nemora for saveas and swap hogan for Brutus
Iād lose my bonus though
No you will actually get the 3 and 2 bonus
No,
Saveas (mauler)
Brutus (mauler)
Belinda (lightborn)
Lucius (lightborn)
Athelia (lightborn/mauler)
And swap Lucius and Brutus if that fails
Need recommendation for a line up I keep getting stuck with my current here are the heroes I have
My nemora and lucius combo kicks ass though, very sustainable. Iām thinking about trading Athelia, sheās good if you can use her tactically, but she just doesnāt have the damage output
@tribal spruce should also over lvl your carry not lvl all together
Snark reset hogan and put those levels on estrilda (horse girl)
lucius healing only should be enough for now dont need doublr healing you need more dmg
Will give it a shot
@dreamy adder its allways easier if you post a screenshot from the current stage with the line up you are failing with its easier to help then :)
Sorry
I don't even have the demon girl you got snark lol
She is a beast her and thane have carried me
Everyone in my guild keep getting Lucius and Iam like wth whereās mine lol
where does it go wrong in that stage is it the saveas killing everyone or the brutus popping off which frontline breaks too fast
There whole team just wipes me out
have you tried swapping frontlines? like swapping hogan and khasos or putting thane up front
https://imgur.com/bvgQlhX thatās one run
hi there, im new playercan you guys help my best line upļ¼
and where should i spend my gemsļ¼is summon 10 the only way to spend itļ¼
@dreamy adder seems like you lack damage i feel like you need a saveas(one of the best dpsers to 160) in there
@fleet knoll for now spending all your gems on summons is the best later you light consider buyung mythuc gear but thats no big deal now as it wont be in the shop
Yeah thatās what Iam thinking thane does alotta@my dmg now but his dying fast now so not alotta help
best line for me right now xdxdļ¼
@peak arch is it a good idea to buy gear at all before mythic
@fleet knoll for now as i can see you just started and got your 2 epics you should just olay with what you have meaning for now hogan and seirus frontline and raine mirael and morvus backline
@tiny hedge nah everything before mythic is kind of a waste of gems
Okay. Thanks. My gear is kinda behind but I think it'd be better to try for a nemura or to rank up the heroes I do have
unless you are really stuck and are not affraid to buy gemsthen you could do it to progress faster but otherwise just keep using gems for rolls only
thx will try
you ll get better gear eventually through afk rewards or peaks of time etc... @tiny hedge
stuck at 2-30 boss fight btw
Yeah. I just finished peaks of time and need to clear 7 4 for the next one
@fleet knoll early you should also over lvl yur carry dpser and not lvl all heroes together makes it easier to progress
I wish you could trade heroes with other players
Any suggestions?
I have so many purples I'll probably never use
@tiny hedge if you are stuck on a certain lvl you can lend a hero from someone once a week i think for 1 stage
Gotta have legend heroes for that. I can't do that yet
The hereos you can borrow depend on the highest Ascension hereos you have according
oh yeah and dont ascend heroes using other ascended heroes if you know what i mean so only with heroes that have legendary+ cap @tiny hedge
@ivory swan no tasi? :o
im REEALY afraid of making my bellinda legendary + cause i heard she sucks. what u guys suggest?
belinda doesnt suck
so should i ascend her and build around protecting her?
@peak arch No Tadi sadly, but i may be able to get one
ye you could you have no other light heroes near ascension to legendary + should reset ogi and lvl estrelda tho @silk imp
maybe you can go for 3 light 2 wild with athila @silk imp
prob is who is gonna frontline? estrilda and who else?
@ivory swan ye i feel like you really are missing a tasi lol idk how you didnt roll one yet
thx much, now i killed 2 30 boss @peak arch
I havent, it's been making me mad lol, same with Brutus and Shemira. @peak arch
@silk imp i guess either saveas for now or tasi but then you have to be lucky with who she jumps to to escape from death
@fleet knoll yw
is saveas decent frontline? sounds like he sucks since he drains hes own hp and saveas isnt light or wild like u suggested @peak arch
oh yeah was looking at hogan first but maybe you used him to ascend belinda already? @silk imp
yeah i wouls have to. i havent done it yet
you can get 3 2 withiut him tho @silk imp if you use athila belinda tasi belinda and estrelda
@peak arch how else am I supposed to ascend heroes? Gotta make an elite plus to rank up an elite plus etc
so in that case, my frontline would be estrelda and tasi right? with athila belinda and nemora back?
@tiny hedge if you wanna rank up for example a tasi from e+ to l you shouldnt use e+ seiruss for example but like only the blue ones you can get like ogi... make those e+ and use them as foos for ascension
can you show me a pic of all your heroes for a sec cuz on second thought tasi front would be very bad this chapter as she will instantly die against maulers @silk imp
But then what if I run out of hero slots
alright will show u
@tiny hedge you wont really have that problem any time soon just retire greens :p
here u go @peak arch i got a couple of graveborns i can ascend too
how bad does it go if you use thoran hogan front tasi belinda saveas backline in that order @silk imp
any suggestions? atm the niru is still carrying but slightly starting to fall off, idk if i should eat him to get shemira to mythic
will try it out
then again he tanks for ages and i don't really have any other tanks , estrilda is horrible atm (12-14)
ye you dont really have other tanks atm and your thoran which could be a tank is only elite so idk @faint wolf
@peak arch brutus and the centaur just ATE my frontline alive in like 2 secs
did you kill anything? @silk imp